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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Let's fucking boogie. Boxing B -Sides. What?

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How long has it been since the Trinity was complete?

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We are joined by my fellow B -Sides, Saul from

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Discord. You know him from Discord. If you're

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listening from Discord, you know who this guy

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is. What's up, yo? And our old homie, Josh is

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back. Hey. We welcome you back with open arms.

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All right. Well, what do you think? You think

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this one's kind of light and we should just get

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right into it? Or... The Pacquiao one, right?

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Yeah. We've got a lot to talk about. So, yeah,

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let's get right into it. Extending the olive

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branch to the ultimate effing casuals. Just in

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case you are not, we're going to still tell you

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a little bit about the MMA world. Two fights,

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July 19th. pfl champion series in africa this

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is the first of a few events at the end a tournament

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that they're gonna do there uh let's see one

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two worth mentioning dakota decheva versus sumiko

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inaba dakota is like if you're maybe mma curious

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and you're thinking you're thinking about checking

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it out This is the type of fighter that you want

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to see, especially if you're coming from a boxing

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purist sort of mentality. Deceva doesn't grapple.

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She doesn't need to because she just whips everyone's

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ass. It's a beautiful thing to see. Johnny Eblen

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loses his PFL title to Costello Van Stennis.

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The interesting part about this, besides it being

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a pretty big upset, is that what made it such

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an upset was that Costello came from a striking

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background. And he came in to submit Johnny Eblen,

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who has the world of experience over Costello.

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So it was pretty wild. UFC 318. Hold on, let

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me make sure. Okay. UFC 318 at the Smoothie King

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Center in NOLA. I'll spare you all of the card

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and just mention Max Holloway beats Dustin Poirier.

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This was Dustin's retirement fight. This was

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like a special guy. He was really dear to the

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fans. This was like a... Max Holloway also being

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a fan favorite. It's like, who the fuck do I

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pick here? But Dustin gets beat 4 -1. And what

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are you going to do? Rides off into the sunset

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with an L. It was a very good send -off. It was.

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It was an incredible fight. It was so much fun.

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It was very entertaining. Even for Dustin to

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go off with an L here, still, this is like a

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warrior send -off. It wasn't sad or anything?

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No, absolutely not. Not at all. Not like the

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typical retirement fights. We'll get to one in

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just a moment. Moving into the boxing recaps.

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All of our recaps are from the same weekend,

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July 19th. Let's start really quick with we're

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going to go from the smallest up instead of the

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bottom. It kind of is the bottom up as well.

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At the Star at the Frisco in Frisco, Texas. Apparently

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this is the Dallas Cowboys training center or

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some shit. However it is they put it. Some stuff

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going from the bottom to the top of the card.

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Nishant Dev gets a stoppage in six over Omar

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Rosales. I was very interested in seeing how

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this and the next fight went. Omari Jones, stoppage

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in three over Alfredo Blanco. Is this business

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as usual? Saul, what do you think? Obviously,

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they're going to keep feeding Amari Jones the

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typical cam and eggers for the next couple of

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years. But I would say, yeah, for the next two

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years, it's going to be the same thing from Amari

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Jones. Yeah, this level of opponent, rinse and

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repeat. It makes me wonder, to compare, just

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thinking of another prospect that's on his way

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up. Tara Moana is being fed cans because Tara

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Moana doesn't really have any other experience.

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But Omari Jones had an extensive amateur background,

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didn't he? Yeah, he went to the Olympics. I remember

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watching him. So he doesn't need to be babied

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is what I'm thinking. I still feel like they

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will still develop him. Yeah. I mean, it's a

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match for me now. I don't know what the promotional

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companies do. The only time I feel like I've

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seen amateurs kind of get rushed is kind of with

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Lomachenko, but he had an extensive amateur career.

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That one makes sense. He's probably one of the

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greatest amateurs of all time. Of course, they

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would give him a title shot within his first

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couple fights. That does make sense. But everybody

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else right now, like Moten, Vargas, Even Abdullah.

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Abdullah is barely... Oh, like Richard Torres

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is the example of a... An Olympian that's still

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being chivvy. Olympian that's... Olympian is

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still dragging his fucking feet. He should, honestly,

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Richard Torres should be stepping up to contender

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anytime soon, within the next year or so. Because

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otherwise... He should have already been there.

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Like, he's probably going to get found out. But...

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Well, we'll see. He last fought Vianello, so

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I think he's stepping up soon. That fight itself

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was a step up, so I can't take that away from

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him. Even though that wasn't the best performance,

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he still won. So I would say, given about another

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year, he might be within the top 15 if he stays

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undefeated. Actually, this is a little bit of

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a teaser. I think with... the way u6 performance

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went that we could con we could really consider

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that all of a lot of the top the titan weight

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like the super huge guys that are at heavyweight

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right now we might be seeing those guys go by

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the wayside a little bit and the u6 only like

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six two six three so six three six three so for

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richard torres to come in at what six one six

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two it's not that freak. It's not that weird

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or it's not that freakish of a jump off from

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like the, I just think it's more skillset. Like

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if shallow love was able to piece them up in

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the Olympics, it's honestly a rather basic offensive

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repertoire. Like I'm not saying, I'm not saying

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that the size is an issue. It's more the leaky

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defense for it. I see. Okay. And, like, fighting

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against Cans won't help him. Like, he needs to

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take a step up to, like, not even, not, like,

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Caballero level, because Caballero's proved himself.

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But, like, you know, the Ajagbas, the Frank Sanchez,

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like, your top 20 guys. Yeah. They're not a real

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risk to you if your skill set really is all that.

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But, A, they build your profile. They help your

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ranking. they give you some looks that you need

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when you actually step up. Sure. Let's keep it

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rolling. Austin Williams gets a stoppage in nine

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over Etinosa Oliha. Fucking cool. Congratulations,

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Ammo. I will say for that fight, that fight specifically,

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he was showing some leaky defense as well, Ammo.

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Was he, really? I would say so, because, I mean...

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The guy he was fighting against, he came out

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on how many days notice? It was short, really

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short turnaround. Yeah, really short turnaround.

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And he was kind of putting the work on ammo.

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And he kept leaving the body open to the point

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where I think if... I think that it's kind of

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exposed him. Obviously, he's been knocked out

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before, but I think it also exposed that his

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body is a little weak. You know? At least that's

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from what I saw. I don't know about you guys.

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That's pretty apt. Yeah, you encapsulated my

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thoughts. I don't know. Maybe I was trying to

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give Ammo the benefit of the doubt and not think

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he was being as leaky and it was more like an

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open up your offense for me kind of thing. But

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I think you're probably right more than I am.

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I get you, I get you. I mean, I don't know. I

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also try to give him the benefit of the doubt

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because he is one of the only American middleweights.

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Yeah. Yeah, one of the only American middles

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right now that is kind of keeping a dead division

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afloat, if you could say so, you know? Yeah.

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But, I mean, he's next in line for Janabek, I

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believe, now, right? I believe so. For Janabek,

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that's crazy already. Yeah. After that loss to

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Hamid Shiraz, that's a little wild. I think Janabek

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kills him. The Shiraz loss is aging a little

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well, right? Well, like, how well when it's Berlanga?

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Well... How well when it's Berlanga? Ah, he called

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me on it. Voxen's already been killed by Hamza

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Shiraz, so... It's getting buried right now by

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Hamza Shiraz. Yeah, having the Robert Damas and

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murdering Berlanga. That sure does it. It's a

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good look for the casuals, but it's not a good

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look for us. God, I was so upset I couldn't do

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the podcast for when Berlanga finally died. I

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had to apologize to the whole audience for that.

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For my Berlanga take. For your Shiraz hate. My

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Shiraz hate? It's Shiraz hate. Don't confuse

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it for Berlanga support. That's exactly what

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I was saying. I knew, against all of my better

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judgment, I knew I shouldn't be supporting Berlanga

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because he's a fucking moron. But I'm not riding.

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You knew he was going to get hit. Yeah, exactly.

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But I'm not going to ride for a fucking Brit

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when there's a... Red -blooded American on the

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goddamn phone. Red -blooded American. Yeah. The

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King of New York. The fucking Kony. Let's move

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up. Diego Pacheco. King of Newark, maybe, man.

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That goes to Tony, Mr. Soprano. Diego Pacheco,

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UD over Trevor McCombie. I liked... the different

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wrinkles that pacheco was able to show here i

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still feel like he felt had too much trouble

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with becoming his style this is true i agree

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and i disagree at the same time how do you uh

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how do you disagree first only reason well i

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don't disagree with your take whereas i think

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it's also the fact that i think he was just scared

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to mix it up with Trevor McCombie? Because, I

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mean, Trevor McCombie looked like he got some

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power. He was jacked. Yeah, he was jacked. Yeah,

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McCombie's a tough SOB, but still, like, if you're

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at that, like, if Caleb Plant's putting the fucking

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work on him, like, you can't be scared to put

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the work on him. Oh, yeah. If you wish to move

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up. Checo's a lot bigger than, like, size -wise,

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like, he's taller, you know? Yeah, he is. He's

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sort of really young. He utilized his jab a lot

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more. Yeah. It makes sense. It's just, you know,

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it just wasn't the most exciting performance,

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unfortunately. You know, I know it's funny to

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come, you know, it's a bum, he fought a bum Trevor

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McCombie. I wish he got him out, but at the same

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time, I'm glad he utilized his jab, you know.

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Right. That's the silver lining. I like seeing

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the versatility. Because it does show, I mean,

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you can say no matter what, I mean, it does show

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a little bit of growth, whether you like it or

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not. My thinking here is that you're hearing

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this from a bunch of Diego Pacheco fans. So if

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you're not so sure that, you know, maybe we're

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glazing a little too hard or trying to give Pacheco

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the benefit of the doubt a little too hard, I

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recommend going to watch it. And trying to score

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it on behalf of Trevor McCombie. And it's not

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going to be there. But give it a shot. Because

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then you can see how versatile, how much of a

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more mature game Diego Pacheco brought to the

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table. Just my little challenge there. I would

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say you you're I think you're really gonna see

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his levels once he fights the competition that

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added that are at his level and the rankings

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in my opinion, I don't think you really Deserve

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the number three number three in the ring, right?

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And the ring rankings is number three on the

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on the ring. I'm not sure. Oh I know I know he's

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kind of high up there on the ring rankings I'm

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sure so I think that he still needs to Develop

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or not develop like it was the word prove himself

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Yeah, he still has a few more, like, good wins

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before he's... Before he's... He's one of the

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power players of the division, you know? Right.

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He's not right now. No, definitely not. We'll

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see what happens with him in the future. I hope

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that his next performance is a lot better so

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then the people that kind of got turned away

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from him this time will go back to him next time.

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Or at least, like, with a guy like Mbili. Oh.

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Baby, what a fight. What a fight. You can totally

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leapfrog the line and really stamp it out because

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as much as he's not quite at the pinnacle of

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168, it's pretty wide open. Minus the apex of

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Lord Ginger. The end of the Canelo sweepstakes

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is different. I'm talking about the realistic

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division. Right. It's like Welterweight when

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Mayweather was in town. It's like, yeah, there's

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an obvious, obvious top dog that's basically

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your meal ticket as long as you're there, but

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the division also moves along kind of independently

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of that person. You're absolutely right. Like

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other good fights, you can try and see if you

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stop Skull. Bruno Saras is still in the rankings

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and honestly not that great. Munguia is up there

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too, same thing. Copper Pits too. Saras. Melikuziev

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is still around. And a Golden Boy guy. Which

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guy is that? Beck the Bully. The guy who gave

00:17:34.559 --> 00:17:37.559
Rosado put out the pastor in like, was it 2020

00:17:37.559 --> 00:17:46.400
or 2021? I want to say 21. Yeah. Let's cap this

00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:52.440
card off with Bam Jesse Rodriguez stops Pumelela

00:17:52.440 --> 00:17:58.680
Kafu in the 10th. At the end of the 10th. This

00:17:58.680 --> 00:18:06.769
was a... Masterclass. It didn't help that Kafu

00:18:06.769 --> 00:18:10.430
just was not interested in engaging. But nonetheless,

00:18:10.809 --> 00:18:15.369
I feel this was a masterclass from Bam. No disrespect

00:18:15.369 --> 00:18:20.250
to Kafu either. Bam is just that bad. He is that

00:18:20.250 --> 00:18:23.950
good. He's that good at this division. It's just

00:18:23.950 --> 00:18:28.410
not... It's almost becoming an Inoue thing where

00:18:28.410 --> 00:18:34.079
like... This one guy is so much better than even

00:18:34.079 --> 00:18:39.920
the champion level decks. They can be good challengers,

00:18:39.920 --> 00:18:42.759
but if they're not great, they're going to look

00:18:42.759 --> 00:18:47.240
like shit. I was surprised he even got that stoppage.

00:18:47.259 --> 00:18:49.059
I was saying that he was going to go the distance.

00:18:49.059 --> 00:18:50.279
I thought that was going to go the distance.

00:18:50.859 --> 00:18:54.160
It was close to, but that one punch, man, that

00:18:54.160 --> 00:18:57.970
was beautiful. I know you guys are saying that

00:18:57.970 --> 00:19:00.529
Kapu didn't want to engage, which I would say

00:19:00.529 --> 00:19:03.990
is partially true. I still consider Kapu to be

00:19:03.990 --> 00:19:06.509
probably Bam's hardest competition thus far.

00:19:06.890 --> 00:19:10.309
I still agree with that statement. I'll agree

00:19:10.309 --> 00:19:16.450
with that. I think Kapu's game plan was really,

00:19:16.529 --> 00:19:19.430
really smart, was to take away Bam's lateral

00:19:19.430 --> 00:19:23.549
movement. Bam has some of the best lateral movement

00:19:23.549 --> 00:19:26.480
in the game right now. Yeah, if you force him

00:19:26.480 --> 00:19:29.559
to come at you, you make it. Yeah, yeah. It becomes

00:19:29.559 --> 00:19:32.019
like, yeah, if you hide in the corner, you can

00:19:32.019 --> 00:19:34.819
potentially get a shot that gets in and, you

00:19:34.819 --> 00:19:36.640
know, potentially flatlines him, you know? Gabe

00:19:36.640 --> 00:19:39.720
Rosado did that to back the bully. Yeah, I think

00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:43.140
that was the plan that Kapi was going for, forcing

00:19:43.140 --> 00:19:47.180
Bam into a siege. And honestly, that was pretty

00:19:47.180 --> 00:19:50.420
smart. I'm not going to lie. That's a good way

00:19:50.420 --> 00:19:53.869
to put it. The only thing is that it didn't work,

00:19:53.970 --> 00:19:56.609
unfortunately, for Kapu. But he still put up

00:19:56.609 --> 00:19:59.309
a good fight. He still put up a pretty good fight.

00:19:59.369 --> 00:20:03.710
Even he was still catching Bam. Bam was getting

00:20:03.710 --> 00:20:08.130
caught still. And this was still a quality matchup.

00:20:08.950 --> 00:20:11.009
For sure, yeah. Despite how it might have played

00:20:11.009 --> 00:20:14.269
out. It was still a really good fight. This was

00:20:14.269 --> 00:20:16.470
a really good fight. I feel like Jesse Rodriguez

00:20:16.470 --> 00:20:20.579
is the new Roman Gonzalez. where a lot of people

00:20:20.579 --> 00:20:25.319
are rating him somewhere between two to four

00:20:25.319 --> 00:20:30.259
on their pound -for -pound rankings. And they're

00:20:30.259 --> 00:20:33.940
like, who the fuck is this little guy? Why are

00:20:33.940 --> 00:20:35.500
you putting this little guy at the top of your

00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:38.579
rankings? That doesn't make sense to me. But

00:20:38.579 --> 00:20:40.319
I feel like he's actually getting a lot more

00:20:40.319 --> 00:20:46.480
recognition than Chocolatito. Because you know

00:20:46.480 --> 00:20:48.940
what? I think that a lot more people know about

00:20:48.940 --> 00:20:53.700
Bam. And I think that's also because of Inoue

00:20:53.700 --> 00:20:55.819
and Nakatani. I think just a lot more people

00:20:55.819 --> 00:20:58.319
are focusing on the lower divisions a lot more

00:20:58.319 --> 00:21:01.000
recently. I think that's kind of giving Bam a

00:21:01.000 --> 00:21:03.160
little bit of a bump. People are giving the smaller

00:21:03.160 --> 00:21:06.579
divisions a chance more often than they would

00:21:06.579 --> 00:21:10.019
because of guys like Inoue, like you mentioned.

00:21:11.259 --> 00:21:14.329
Yeah. It's because it's also... It's a little

00:21:14.329 --> 00:21:17.390
flashy recently, too, you know? Bam getting knockouts,

00:21:17.430 --> 00:21:19.930
Nakantani getting knockouts, Inoue getting knockouts.

00:21:20.470 --> 00:21:23.890
People like that shit. Bam became, like, an instant,

00:21:23.950 --> 00:21:27.769
basically an instant star among, like, the watchers

00:21:27.769 --> 00:21:30.150
of boxing, just, like, taking the quadras fight

00:21:30.150 --> 00:21:34.230
on extremely short notice and just blowing them

00:21:34.230 --> 00:21:37.950
out. Handing his ass. Like, that... That was

00:21:37.950 --> 00:21:42.250
the beginning and the end. That, like... it's

00:21:42.250 --> 00:21:45.109
tough to say that he wasn't like instantly endeared

00:21:45.109 --> 00:21:51.549
to a fan base for that. We put on a damn good

00:21:51.549 --> 00:21:55.750
performance. Yeah, absolutely. And it's good.

00:21:55.789 --> 00:21:57.650
We're going to see him. I was scared because

00:21:57.650 --> 00:22:00.829
I know he was, he already had that fight with

00:22:00.829 --> 00:22:02.950
Puma lined up. I honestly thought that was going

00:22:02.950 --> 00:22:06.980
to affect the fight. Oh, yeah. completely forgot

00:22:06.980 --> 00:22:11.619
about the the superstition part of it that i

00:22:11.619 --> 00:22:14.099
was like i was legit thinking about as well was

00:22:14.099 --> 00:22:17.359
like man you can't just be looking past just

00:22:17.359 --> 00:22:19.859
just because nobody else has heard of him doesn't

00:22:19.859 --> 00:22:22.299
mean he's not good the matchroom classic yeah

00:22:22.299 --> 00:22:28.779
the matchroom classic oh yeah uh but still um

00:22:28.779 --> 00:22:32.599
bam i i think i've seen him like two or three

00:22:32.599 --> 00:22:41.519
times live he's uh I really do reserve this word

00:22:41.519 --> 00:22:45.980
for a very select few of fighters. Bam is special.

00:22:47.059 --> 00:22:50.779
Oh, yeah. This young man is something serious.

00:22:51.019 --> 00:22:54.779
So if you're not watching, if nobody else, pay

00:22:54.779 --> 00:22:59.140
attention to him. I'll tell you this. I've said

00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:02.279
this on many occasions, too. I think Bam is probably

00:23:02.279 --> 00:23:06.539
one of the best. skill -wise, one of the best

00:23:06.539 --> 00:23:08.559
skill sets in the sport. I honestly think he's

00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:10.160
better than Inouye. And I think if they were

00:23:10.160 --> 00:23:13.019
at the same weight, I might be ballsy, I think

00:23:13.019 --> 00:23:15.339
he beats Inouye. And I think he beats Nakamani.

00:23:15.900 --> 00:23:19.480
Just off of skills alone. That is a pretty ballsy

00:23:19.480 --> 00:23:24.420
claim for the sickos who know who you're talking

00:23:24.420 --> 00:23:30.079
about. I just think that his use of his defense

00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:33.549
and his lateral movement is just... It's something

00:23:33.549 --> 00:23:36.750
akin to, I would say probably on the same level

00:23:36.750 --> 00:23:41.309
as B -Bowl, if not even better. You know? It's

00:23:41.309 --> 00:23:43.549
beautiful, honestly. It's art when you watch

00:23:43.549 --> 00:23:47.529
Bam. He brings a tear to my eye, honestly. He's

00:23:47.529 --> 00:23:52.329
the junior, the smaller Lomachenko. Yeah, yeah.

00:23:52.390 --> 00:23:56.609
He said it himself that he emulates Lomachenko.

00:23:56.609 --> 00:24:00.009
Yeah, he emulates Lomachenko, which is crazy.

00:24:00.230 --> 00:24:03.420
You know, Lomachenko. I know he didn't have the

00:24:03.420 --> 00:24:07.799
best career to some people. I would say, though,

00:24:07.859 --> 00:24:10.799
that he had some great skills, man. He got some

00:24:10.799 --> 00:24:13.000
great skills. Oh, yeah. Like, when he was at

00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:17.000
his right weight class operating, yeah. Yeah,

00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:23.220
just to take it out of what would have been then,

00:24:23.299 --> 00:24:26.259
like, considering resume and stuff, like, pound

00:24:26.259 --> 00:24:30.380
for pound, maybe not the best. But skill for

00:24:30.380 --> 00:24:35.259
skill. Lomachenko was unquestionably one of the

00:24:35.259 --> 00:24:38.059
better operators that we've seen in a long time.

00:24:40.380 --> 00:24:42.420
Phenomenal. And we're seeing that with Bam right

00:24:42.420 --> 00:24:45.480
now. I think we're seeing what Lomachenko could

00:24:45.480 --> 00:24:51.000
have been with Bam. I'm saying these ballsy takes

00:24:51.000 --> 00:24:57.779
right now. No, it's funny. I think it's arguably

00:24:57.779 --> 00:25:01.150
more dominant just because you're convinced.

00:25:01.549 --> 00:25:06.009
He's not having much trouble with guys on the

00:25:06.009 --> 00:25:11.609
level or better than Linares and stuff. And he's

00:25:11.609 --> 00:25:17.490
actually winning the fights as he moves up. You're

00:25:17.490 --> 00:25:25.230
right. Last words. Final thoughts for Bam, Kafu,

00:25:25.250 --> 00:25:30.500
at the Frisco. It was a great fight. Can't wait

00:25:30.500 --> 00:25:31.920
to see Bam in the future. I can't wait to see

00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:35.920
Bam fight Puma. Ooh, that's going to be sick.

00:25:36.019 --> 00:25:38.180
I really hope they get the last title to make

00:25:38.180 --> 00:25:42.579
it an undisputed fight. How would that even be

00:25:42.579 --> 00:25:47.980
possible? Whoever the IBF champ, it would have

00:25:47.980 --> 00:25:51.319
to be a quick win. But otherwise, yeah, I don't

00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.119
think it fits into the timeline. Yeah, you're

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:56.720
right. What weight class is it again? Junior

00:25:56.720 --> 00:26:00.779
Bantamweight? 115. Yeah. Junior Bantamweight,

00:26:00.839 --> 00:26:05.160
who has the title? IBF? I'm not sure. I think

00:26:05.160 --> 00:26:10.740
it's vacant. If they were to... I hope for this

00:26:10.740 --> 00:26:14.859
fight they make this for the vacant title. I'm

00:26:14.859 --> 00:26:16.940
pretty sure the IBF has actually been taken recently,

00:26:17.079 --> 00:26:20.240
but I think it was... I think it was by some

00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.319
Mexican fighter. My Mexican fighter, actually.

00:26:23.440 --> 00:26:28.019
All right. I think it was... Correct me if I'm

00:26:28.019 --> 00:26:31.950
wrong. Actually. It's a bit unusual because Mexicans...

00:26:31.950 --> 00:26:36.289
Mexico usually doesn't participate in the IBF

00:26:36.289 --> 00:26:43.809
and their nonsense. Yeah. I will say, though,

00:26:43.829 --> 00:26:46.589
that honestly, I wouldn't want that Undisputed

00:26:46.589 --> 00:26:50.029
fight to be on a ring card. That would be kind

00:26:50.029 --> 00:26:54.609
of horrendous if BAM was the opening of the main.

00:26:55.549 --> 00:26:59.170
Oh, yeah, his name is Willevaldo Garcia. All

00:26:59.170 --> 00:27:03.670
right. That's cool. It's good that somebody picked

00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:10.049
it up. I would like if they delayed this one

00:27:10.049 --> 00:27:15.369
for Puma to fight this new IBF title holder.

00:27:17.289 --> 00:27:21.990
I'm a sucker for Undisputed. Yeah, me too. I'm

00:27:21.990 --> 00:27:23.990
one of those guys. Take that for what you will.

00:27:25.710 --> 00:27:28.829
Oh, I don't mind consolidation of belts at all.

00:27:28.829 --> 00:27:31.670
If nothing else, just getting them onto one person.

00:27:31.769 --> 00:27:34.970
If nothing else, having one guy who's the best

00:27:34.970 --> 00:27:39.890
at a weight class is A -OK. And Bam's proven

00:27:39.890 --> 00:27:44.430
himself as that so far. Yes, he has. Absolutely.

00:27:45.529 --> 00:27:48.849
Let's keep it moving to the MGM Grand Garden

00:27:48.849 --> 00:27:56.519
Arena. Mario Barrios gets a... Majority draw.

00:27:57.200 --> 00:28:00.200
Please hear the irony that I'm trying to put

00:28:00.200 --> 00:28:03.640
into this. Majority draw versus Manny Pacquiao.

00:28:04.500 --> 00:28:09.339
What the fuck is this timeline? Go to timeline.

00:28:09.619 --> 00:28:12.500
I think this is the best outcome. This was the

00:28:12.500 --> 00:28:16.960
best outcome. No, man. Boris deserves to lose

00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:20.640
it for not being able to beat the ghost of Manny

00:28:20.640 --> 00:28:25.509
Pacquiao. Sorry, the ghost of the ghost of the

00:28:25.509 --> 00:28:30.430
ghost at this point of Manny. I will say that

00:28:30.430 --> 00:28:34.490
I'll say that the fact that Manny was able to

00:28:34.490 --> 00:28:37.750
pull that off, I think he won. Yeah, Manny had

00:28:37.750 --> 00:28:42.410
a good fight. Yeah. No disrespect to Manny on

00:28:42.410 --> 00:28:48.089
the boxing end. Yeah. I was surprised by what

00:28:48.089 --> 00:28:50.970
Manny did that night. Honestly, I kind of was

00:28:50.970 --> 00:28:55.279
expecting a shutout. mario barrios i think that

00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:57.920
also he just i think he was just respecting manny

00:28:57.920 --> 00:29:00.799
pacquiao too much in the beginning and he left

00:29:00.799 --> 00:29:03.839
himself he left uh he left the the like the first

00:29:03.839 --> 00:29:06.720
six rounds which kind of escaped pacquiao you

00:29:06.720 --> 00:29:09.160
know well you heard him he said after the fight

00:29:09.160 --> 00:29:12.859
that fanny could still crack so yeah he said

00:29:12.859 --> 00:29:14.880
that old man can still hit whatever else yeah

00:29:14.880 --> 00:29:19.200
that was uh that was that opening the fact that

00:29:19.200 --> 00:29:23.259
the champion say that I do think some of the

00:29:23.259 --> 00:29:26.740
online reaction has been a bit hyperbolic. Being

00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:28.660
like, Barrios is one of the worst champions in

00:29:28.660 --> 00:29:32.420
a long time. Unfortunately, he isn't. Crawford

00:29:32.420 --> 00:29:36.279
fought a lot of those guys. Half of Crawford's

00:29:36.279 --> 00:29:39.000
resume are the worst champions of this last decade.

00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:44.900
I will say that... See, the thing is, you can't

00:29:44.900 --> 00:29:47.180
dog on Barrios. Again, Barrios does have heart.

00:29:48.460 --> 00:29:52.470
Barrios? Yeah, Barrios has heart. we saw that

00:29:52.470 --> 00:29:54.470
in that Abel Ramos fight. I mean, I feel like

00:29:54.470 --> 00:29:57.990
he can't fight. It's just, that was, he gave

00:29:57.990 --> 00:30:00.750
too much respect to Pacquiao. I was thinking

00:30:00.750 --> 00:30:03.890
that he carried him. Yeah, yeah, he carried him

00:30:03.890 --> 00:30:05.910
a little too much to the point where he got a

00:30:05.910 --> 00:30:09.410
majority draw. The thing is that, I mean, to

00:30:09.410 --> 00:30:12.049
me, I don't want to say it was fixed. I feel

00:30:12.049 --> 00:30:16.089
like it was a predetermined outcome. I feel like

00:30:16.089 --> 00:30:18.349
that too because you can't give it to Barrios

00:30:18.349 --> 00:30:20.029
because the mini Pacquiao I just don't think

00:30:20.029 --> 00:30:23.349
Barrios is... The outcome's weird, because Barrios

00:30:23.349 --> 00:30:27.410
is genuinely huge. You can totally see how, again,

00:30:27.650 --> 00:30:31.410
like I've said this before, the ringside judges

00:30:31.410 --> 00:30:34.289
don't have the view. The same vantage points

00:30:34.289 --> 00:30:37.990
that we do. Yeah. Yeah, so we can totally see

00:30:37.990 --> 00:30:44.349
Pacquiao's owning this guy, but the judges can't

00:30:44.349 --> 00:30:48.349
exactly see. Pacquiao's full work compared to,

00:30:48.410 --> 00:30:50.670
like, even if Barrios is just hitting a guard,

00:30:50.769 --> 00:30:54.210
Barrios is fucking massive. Mm -hmm. He's doing

00:30:54.210 --> 00:30:59.730
damage. He's a big boy. The thing is, I don't

00:30:59.730 --> 00:31:01.769
know. When we're talking about the fixed fight,

00:31:01.869 --> 00:31:04.829
I mean, I just feel like this is kind of manufactured

00:31:04.829 --> 00:31:07.529
by the PBC, dude. That decision it had. It's

00:31:07.529 --> 00:31:10.730
a convenient result for sure, but honestly, the

00:31:10.730 --> 00:31:16.130
better result for PBC is just... The better result

00:31:16.130 --> 00:31:21.069
for PBC is Pacquiao winning. That's the better

00:31:21.069 --> 00:31:22.609
result for PBC because that means more money

00:31:22.609 --> 00:31:24.529
for them because that can potentially be... You

00:31:24.529 --> 00:31:27.309
can technically probably... You can lure Floyd

00:31:27.309 --> 00:31:31.890
being like, hey... He's got a belt. He's got

00:31:31.890 --> 00:31:35.970
a belt. You have another potential super fight

00:31:35.970 --> 00:31:39.890
on your hands. With the way that the PBC is going

00:31:39.890 --> 00:31:41.450
right now with the lack of pay -per -view fights,

00:31:41.670 --> 00:31:44.630
that would be a godsend, you know? However...

00:31:44.960 --> 00:31:48.119
For me, Pacquiao and Barrio Barrios, this is

00:31:48.119 --> 00:31:50.559
the best outcome. Again, I do think that Pacquiao

00:31:50.559 --> 00:31:52.940
won, but Pacquiao's also not going to lie down.

00:31:53.319 --> 00:31:55.960
You know? If he won, he would have never lied

00:31:55.960 --> 00:31:58.359
down. He could have bought another. He could

00:31:58.359 --> 00:32:01.400
have bought Rowley, for all we know. Manny Rowley

00:32:01.400 --> 00:32:04.900
might be hilarious, actually. That's a hilarious

00:32:04.900 --> 00:32:07.819
fight. I love that it's serious, but it's a hilarious

00:32:07.819 --> 00:32:10.960
fight. Yeah. Because there's, like, it goes,

00:32:11.119 --> 00:32:16.390
like, Manny either... like, beats his ass because

00:32:16.390 --> 00:32:20.950
he's good at boxing and Roley isn't. Or Roley

00:32:20.950 --> 00:32:25.609
gets, like, a hilarious meme knockout. That would

00:32:25.609 --> 00:32:27.109
be hilarious to me. That would be really sad.

00:32:28.650 --> 00:32:31.829
Or no, man. Very meme -worthy, though, nonetheless.

00:32:32.269 --> 00:32:34.789
Yeah, like, it's hilarious in that it's a meme

00:32:34.789 --> 00:32:37.809
knockout, not hilarious in... I don't want to

00:32:37.809 --> 00:32:39.970
see Manny get knocked out. Not again, anyway.

00:32:41.130 --> 00:32:44.049
Not as if to say, like, he's that old. Like,

00:32:44.049 --> 00:32:47.769
dude, the Marquez 4 knockout was, like, 13 years

00:32:47.769 --> 00:32:51.529
ago. Yeah. That's enough. That's enough. That's

00:32:51.529 --> 00:32:55.170
how far gone we are on this fucking guy. That's

00:32:55.170 --> 00:32:58.109
why I'm like, okay, Barrios should probably be

00:32:58.109 --> 00:33:02.829
a little ashamed. But, like, he's the worst champion

00:33:02.829 --> 00:33:05.630
of the last decade is hyperbolic. Because if

00:33:05.630 --> 00:33:07.390
you just look at Terrence Crawford's box rec,

00:33:07.430 --> 00:33:09.210
there's, like, three guys worse right there.

00:33:09.670 --> 00:33:12.369
Well, the thing is... I can tell you it dongle's

00:33:12.369 --> 00:33:16.619
worse. I can tell you, Jeff Ford is worse. Krala.

00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:20.640
Ricky Burns. Krala is worse. And Ricky Burns

00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:23.920
are worse. Yeah, like I'm telling you. Like,

00:33:23.920 --> 00:33:27.619
there are worse guys. His entire undisputed run.

00:33:27.759 --> 00:33:30.740
Well, Sans Postal, I suppose. So, never mind.

00:33:30.940 --> 00:33:32.980
But I was going to say, his entire undisputed

00:33:32.980 --> 00:33:38.380
run, just worse than Barrios Pacquiao. Like,

00:33:38.380 --> 00:33:42.180
in Dongo, in Dongo, Jeff Horn back -to -back.

00:33:45.119 --> 00:33:50.339
is criminal for the resume. Are you saying that

00:33:50.339 --> 00:33:53.000
Terrence Crawford is the worst champion than

00:33:53.000 --> 00:33:54.819
Mario Barrios? Is that what you're saying? No,

00:33:54.819 --> 00:33:56.539
I'm saying that the guys he fought are worse

00:33:56.539 --> 00:33:59.500
champions than Mario Barrios. Who does Mario

00:33:59.500 --> 00:34:03.099
Barrios really beat against? Mario Barrios is

00:34:03.099 --> 00:34:07.039
at least better than Jeff Horn. Yeah, but I understand

00:34:07.039 --> 00:34:09.739
that, but I mean, who has he beat that's, you

00:34:09.739 --> 00:34:12.300
know, besides Ugas? Ugas, I would say, is probably

00:34:12.300 --> 00:34:14.880
the best name on his resume. That's still pretty

00:34:14.880 --> 00:34:17.960
good. Like, this guy, again, Ndongo, like, Jeff

00:34:17.960 --> 00:34:20.719
Horn has, like, a horrific Pacquiao robbery.

00:34:21.280 --> 00:34:28.539
And that's it. And Ndongo doesn't even have that.

00:34:30.099 --> 00:34:33.559
I would say Mario Barrios, I wouldn't say he's

00:34:33.559 --> 00:34:36.159
a horrible champion. I still think he can...

00:34:36.159 --> 00:34:38.539
No, like I'm saying, I'm defending Barrios being

00:34:38.539 --> 00:34:40.639
like, there are worse champions in the last 10

00:34:40.639 --> 00:34:43.969
years than him. I think the online reaction has

00:34:43.969 --> 00:34:47.690
been a bit vitriolic. I would say that he probably

00:34:47.690 --> 00:34:50.489
is the weakest champion, for sure, in the welterweight

00:34:50.489 --> 00:34:55.889
division right now. Oh, yeah. And... Well, Roley's

00:34:55.889 --> 00:35:00.369
technically one, isn't he? Yeah. I honestly would

00:35:00.369 --> 00:35:05.469
rate Roley over Barrios. Yeah. Oh, you're right.

00:35:05.570 --> 00:35:09.269
You're right. You might be right, actually. I

00:35:09.269 --> 00:35:12.269
don't know. I don't rate Barrios that highly.

00:35:12.670 --> 00:35:15.369
I mean, he seems like a good guy. No, like, I

00:35:15.369 --> 00:35:18.010
don't rate Barrios. I'm just, like, he's not,

00:35:18.110 --> 00:35:21.590
like, an affront to God, like I've seen people

00:35:21.590 --> 00:35:25.010
on Twitter saying. Yeah, no, I see what you're

00:35:25.010 --> 00:35:26.469
saying. It's just to say that he's a good guy.

00:35:26.469 --> 00:35:28.190
That's what I mean. Like, it's hyperbolic because,

00:35:28.289 --> 00:35:33.610
like, I feel like I hear this every other, this

00:35:33.610 --> 00:35:36.050
guy's the worst champion in history type deal.

00:35:36.190 --> 00:35:40.139
Every other Canelo opponent. Yeah. This guy's

00:35:40.139 --> 00:35:43.360
the worst motherfucker of all time. This is the

00:35:43.360 --> 00:35:47.019
worst guy at 168 of all time. And I'm like, I'd

00:35:47.019 --> 00:35:49.260
like you to see some of the guys Bernard Hopkins

00:35:49.260 --> 00:35:53.579
fought at 168. Some of these guys fucking suck.

00:35:53.900 --> 00:35:56.739
Or even like the guys that Roy Jones fought.

00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.980
Like, sorry, Roy. Yeah. You're one of the - The

00:35:59.980 --> 00:36:04.239
hell, the guys - Emile Griffiths, bro. Well,

00:36:04.260 --> 00:36:06.360
and then, you know, Lennox Lewis, right, guys?

00:36:06.480 --> 00:36:08.820
Right, guys? Lennox Lewis? Hell nah. Lennox Lewis

00:36:08.820 --> 00:36:13.000
is the best champion. I know. Hell nah. I had

00:36:13.000 --> 00:36:14.440
to throw a brick in there just to piss you guys

00:36:14.440 --> 00:36:18.420
off. No, I'm just... He's a Canadian. He's a

00:36:18.420 --> 00:36:20.840
Canadian. We claim him. We claim him in Canada.

00:36:21.219 --> 00:36:25.019
He fought for us in the Olympics. Oh, yeah. Canadian.

00:36:25.940 --> 00:36:29.550
He's Canadian. He's a Canadian gold medal. Whenever

00:36:29.550 --> 00:36:35.090
the Tyson Fury is an all -time heavyweight, unbeatable

00:36:35.090 --> 00:36:38.710
because of his size and shit, I thought to myself,

00:36:38.969 --> 00:36:42.670
Lennox Lewis beats him. And it's not even close.

00:36:42.789 --> 00:36:48.929
Easily. I'm not going to lie. Honestly, a funny

00:36:48.929 --> 00:36:50.869
thing I like to think about, who's the worst

00:36:50.869 --> 00:36:53.489
heavyweight champ who could beat Tyson Fury?

00:36:54.300 --> 00:36:57.679
And the answer is probably John Ruiz. Fury fucks

00:36:57.679 --> 00:36:59.880
around, doesn't take it seriously, and then John

00:36:59.880 --> 00:37:06.780
Ruiz hugs him to a UD. Like, John Ruiz... Buster

00:37:06.780 --> 00:37:12.159
Douglas? Okay, but Buster Douglas... Do we count,

00:37:12.260 --> 00:37:13.699
like... He could be one Tyson. He could be the

00:37:13.699 --> 00:37:16.619
other Tyson. He could be the other... Buster

00:37:16.619 --> 00:37:19.400
Douglas on that night is, like, the funniest

00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:21.940
mythical fighter of all time. Just because on

00:37:21.940 --> 00:37:24.849
eye test, you're like, wow. This guy might be

00:37:24.849 --> 00:37:26.710
the GOAT. And then you watch him every other

00:37:26.710 --> 00:37:28.389
fight of his career, and you're like, oh, my

00:37:28.389 --> 00:37:32.010
God, what am I watching? Who is this guy? Buster

00:37:32.010 --> 00:37:36.630
Douglas KO's Evander Holyfield, right? Buster

00:37:36.630 --> 00:37:40.969
Douglas shows up pregnant and gets knocked down

00:37:40.969 --> 00:37:47.050
in, like, three rounds. Yeah. All right. Let's

00:37:47.050 --> 00:37:53.110
keep it moving here. Barrios. Majority draw.

00:37:53.190 --> 00:37:56.110
Do you see how much he weighed against Holyfield?

00:37:56.909 --> 00:38:05.929
Gary Allen Russell KO'd over Hugo Castaneda.

00:38:06.889 --> 00:38:12.809
Pretty one -sided affair for Allen here. Good

00:38:12.809 --> 00:38:16.539
for Gary Russell. Good for Gary Russell. We'll

00:38:16.539 --> 00:38:20.579
see you in 2026, buddy. Yeah, we'll see you then.

00:38:21.340 --> 00:38:25.099
See you next year for your yearly paycheck. Good

00:38:25.099 --> 00:38:37.400
performance, bro. Excellent. 1 .30 is not exactly

00:38:37.400 --> 00:38:42.820
great. That version of Gary Russell might be

00:38:42.820 --> 00:38:47.960
something. Like, relatively speaking. He's like

00:38:47.960 --> 00:38:51.840
the Lara of this division. Oh, shit. That's a

00:38:51.840 --> 00:38:55.619
perfect way to put it. He's going to fight once

00:38:55.619 --> 00:38:58.719
a year, pick up a WBA title, and continue to

00:38:58.719 --> 00:39:01.920
fight once a year. Fortunately. They're going

00:39:01.920 --> 00:39:06.460
to get the PBC title. Mark Magsaya also. I didn't

00:39:06.460 --> 00:39:11.019
know. Mark Magsaya also fought. Yep, Mark Magsayo

00:39:11.019 --> 00:39:15.719
gets the UD over Jorge Mata. This is another

00:39:15.719 --> 00:39:21.099
130 fight. This guy's still around? Magsayo versus

00:39:21.099 --> 00:39:26.500
Alan Russell. Again? Pencil it. Oh, yeah. Russell

00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:28.860
hurt his fucking shoulder or something and lost

00:39:28.860 --> 00:39:32.960
to Magsayo on a majority decision. Yeah. I remember

00:39:32.960 --> 00:39:41.780
that. Yeah. Moving up, David Picasso, majority

00:39:41.780 --> 00:39:50.340
decision over Kyonosuke Kameda. Good job. I did

00:39:50.340 --> 00:39:53.099
not want that. That boy ain't ready for it anyway,

00:39:53.199 --> 00:39:56.260
I'll tell you that. No, fuck no, he's not. He

00:39:56.260 --> 00:39:58.820
needs some time. He needs some time, for sure.

00:39:59.039 --> 00:40:02.760
He needs a lot of things if he's going to get

00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:07.139
to that point. He needs some bricks in his gloves,

00:40:07.380 --> 00:40:12.000
steroids. All of it. Bring back Eddie Fudge from

00:40:12.000 --> 00:40:18.519
the dead. Get Victor Conte back on his old habits.

00:40:19.460 --> 00:40:25.699
Oh, yeah. David Picasso, majority decision over

00:40:25.699 --> 00:40:29.880
Kudosuke Kameda. Congratulations. Brandon Figueroa,

00:40:29.920 --> 00:40:35.480
UD over Joet Gonzalez. Joette did what Joette

00:40:35.480 --> 00:40:40.519
does. He showed up scrappy, refused to quit,

00:40:40.639 --> 00:40:46.860
and I don't know. I feel like he did better than

00:40:46.860 --> 00:40:56.219
some might think. He made a big roll at Coral.

00:40:56.420 --> 00:41:05.960
Yeah, he did. But when it's... When it's... When

00:41:05.960 --> 00:41:09.500
it's Stephen Fulton making you look like a fool

00:41:09.500 --> 00:41:14.519
versus... Which you could expect. That could

00:41:14.519 --> 00:41:19.179
be just reasonably dismissed. But... Joey Gonzalez?

00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:24.000
That's who's making you look like shit? Yeah,

00:41:24.019 --> 00:41:25.860
that's not a good sign. We need to start asking

00:41:25.860 --> 00:41:28.880
some serious questions here. Like... I don't

00:41:28.880 --> 00:41:34.340
think... This is whatever. Like, this isn't the

00:41:34.340 --> 00:41:35.659
type of fight that you should be looking like

00:41:35.659 --> 00:41:40.199
shit in. He's tailor -made for you to win. At

00:41:40.199 --> 00:41:44.719
least a good decision, you know? Right. This

00:41:44.719 --> 00:41:47.579
is kind of rocky. I'm not going to lie. Not in

00:41:47.579 --> 00:41:50.900
a good way. Shrug. Not the good rocky. For the

00:41:50.900 --> 00:41:54.719
people who can't see, this is me shrugging. Yeah.

00:41:55.440 --> 00:41:57.199
I'll tell you, we'll figure it out. He broke

00:41:57.199 --> 00:41:59.329
my heart a little bit. Heartbreaker broke my

00:41:59.329 --> 00:42:05.469
heart. Heartbreaker broke your heart. Moving

00:42:05.469 --> 00:42:12.289
up, Sebastian Fandora retires Tim Zhu. 7 out

00:42:12.289 --> 00:42:17.230
of 12. WBC super welterweight title on the line.

00:42:17.670 --> 00:42:25.469
I want to ask Josh first. Now, is this retirement

00:42:25.469 --> 00:42:31.019
from Tim Zhu? Is this live to fight another day,

00:42:31.139 --> 00:42:36.500
or is this bitch made? This is live to fight

00:42:36.500 --> 00:42:45.239
another day. Okay. Honestly, he needs new management.

00:42:46.460 --> 00:42:52.659
Yeah. The way you've seen, you can't do Fandora,

00:42:52.760 --> 00:42:57.059
Baccarum. mild soft touch and then fundora again

00:42:57.059 --> 00:43:01.500
back to back to back to back especially with

00:43:01.500 --> 00:43:06.800
how unsoft of a touch mertes olive was joy spencer

00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:11.039
notwithstanding yeah like this is a brutal schedule

00:43:11.039 --> 00:43:15.079
you know what he threw the kitchen sink at fundora

00:43:15.079 --> 00:43:17.920
it didn't work fundora is actually looking better

00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.860
as well credit to fundora Sue definitely needs

00:43:22.860 --> 00:43:26.440
to take a year or two so he doesn't to like just

00:43:26.440 --> 00:43:32.340
let his body recover from this dog shit schedule

00:43:32.340 --> 00:43:35.340
he was handed I think that it's more important

00:43:35.340 --> 00:43:38.679
let everything recover have a couple soft touches

00:43:38.679 --> 00:43:42.000
in Australia make some dollars get some confidence

00:43:42.000 --> 00:43:45.260
work on some shit and come back better to the

00:43:45.260 --> 00:43:49.190
world stage because With how his management is

00:43:49.190 --> 00:43:50.809
right now, they're going to feed him to another.

00:43:50.909 --> 00:43:52.469
They're going to end up feeding him to another

00:43:52.469 --> 00:43:54.690
guy, and another guy, and another guy, and it's

00:43:54.690 --> 00:43:57.570
going to be not great. We're going to tap him

00:43:57.570 --> 00:44:04.889
out, basically. Yeah. All right. So, were you

00:44:04.889 --> 00:44:11.090
on the Bunsdora train? Yeah. I talked about this

00:44:11.090 --> 00:44:15.369
a lot in the last pod, but I wanted both to win.

00:44:15.449 --> 00:44:17.639
I wanted... Pandora went more just because he's

00:44:17.639 --> 00:44:20.960
a local boy. And I'm glad he won. But this fight,

00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.340
I noticed he did use a jab a little more than

00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:26.880
usual. Oh, hell yeah. Which that did make me

00:44:26.880 --> 00:44:31.619
excited to see. Yeah, it's scary. Yeah, it was

00:44:31.619 --> 00:44:34.300
scary. Yeah, exactly. But the thing is that once

00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:36.119
Tim Zoo found his range, he kind of went back

00:44:36.119 --> 00:44:38.880
to his old ways, which is something that he needs

00:44:38.880 --> 00:44:43.739
to learn. But Pandora put up a good fight. He

00:44:43.739 --> 00:44:45.820
knocked out Tim Zoo in the first round. Not even

00:44:45.820 --> 00:44:49.699
Bakken really did that? No? I mean, I don't know.

00:44:49.760 --> 00:44:53.000
I just think that... I think Fundora's got a

00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:54.480
good future ahead of him. He keeps using that

00:44:54.480 --> 00:44:58.699
jab. No? Yeah. Fundora improving at using his

00:44:58.699 --> 00:45:01.679
range is terrifying. Honestly. That's fucking

00:45:01.679 --> 00:45:04.400
scary. That is a mythic... That was a mythical

00:45:04.400 --> 00:45:07.900
fighter. Fundora using his range... Fundora knows

00:45:07.900 --> 00:45:11.059
how to use his range. That's fucking terrifying.

00:45:12.719 --> 00:45:14.039
This is... Because you won't be able to reach

00:45:14.039 --> 00:45:18.449
his ass. how can you you try to break the distance

00:45:18.449 --> 00:45:21.110
on the jab you're still like six inches behind

00:45:21.110 --> 00:45:24.329
where you need to be good and the thing is that

00:45:24.329 --> 00:45:27.090
he like he already has the infighter skill set

00:45:27.090 --> 00:45:31.130
so even when you get in he's still gonna beat

00:45:31.130 --> 00:45:35.829
your ass oh yeah that's the thing with pandora

00:45:35.829 --> 00:45:39.130
too that's terrifying he's a he's not a bad uh

00:45:39.360 --> 00:45:41.219
an inside fighter as well. Oh, no. It's just

00:45:41.219 --> 00:45:44.500
that being that tall and fighting on the inside

00:45:44.500 --> 00:45:46.780
is not the smartest thing to do, of course. But,

00:45:46.800 --> 00:45:49.880
I mean, come on. I mean, he is showing through

00:45:49.880 --> 00:45:53.320
Buma. I'm surprised. I will take back the statement

00:45:53.320 --> 00:45:56.059
I said last time where I said that he didn't

00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:59.300
show much. He is showing a good amount. At this

00:45:59.300 --> 00:46:01.179
fight, at least. Oh, yeah. He's shown a lot of

00:46:01.179 --> 00:46:06.099
growth. Let's see what happens next fight. We

00:46:06.099 --> 00:46:08.099
have a new champion that we'll talk about next

00:46:08.099 --> 00:46:11.539
week. But I will say this, that I think that

00:46:11.539 --> 00:46:14.079
he, if he uses that jab properly, he can dominate

00:46:14.079 --> 00:46:21.019
the division. If he uses that jab properly. I

00:46:21.019 --> 00:46:25.860
feel like beating Tim Zhu is what, here's what's

00:46:25.860 --> 00:46:29.159
going to happen. It's not what I want, but Tim

00:46:29.159 --> 00:46:31.880
Zhu is now going to have access to the back catalog

00:46:31.880 --> 00:46:36.840
of the guys that Tim Zhu beat. Like a rematch

00:46:36.840 --> 00:46:41.909
with Brian Mendoza. Fighting Tony Harrison, like

00:46:41.909 --> 00:46:46.949
that type of opponent, and I'm not looking forward

00:46:46.949 --> 00:46:51.829
to it. Yeah, you're right. For North, it's kind

00:46:51.829 --> 00:46:54.969
of in a division where right now it's all the

00:46:54.969 --> 00:46:57.610
promotional companies are there, you know? Everybody

00:46:57.610 --> 00:46:59.570
wants a piece of the pie. Yeah, everybody is

00:46:59.570 --> 00:47:03.469
involved right now. Back then, the division was

00:47:03.469 --> 00:47:06.440
dominated by the PBC. This time around, it's

00:47:06.440 --> 00:47:08.400
dominated by everybody. Oh, yeah. Right now,

00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:12.599
the BBC. That was quite an era. BBC right now

00:47:12.599 --> 00:47:15.179
currently has a good foothold because they hold

00:47:15.179 --> 00:47:17.760
two of the titles. But once people become the,

00:47:17.780 --> 00:47:20.059
once they become the mandatories, they might

00:47:20.059 --> 00:47:22.940
need to give up those titles. They might have

00:47:22.940 --> 00:47:25.559
to give up those titles. If they don't play ball

00:47:25.559 --> 00:47:28.480
anyway. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Or send it to fucking

00:47:28.480 --> 00:47:31.139
Riyadh. That's why things can happen. The only

00:47:31.139 --> 00:47:33.579
way you're going to see anybody with Pandora

00:47:33.579 --> 00:47:36.389
and Bokrum. If you're going to see anybody else

00:47:36.389 --> 00:47:39.570
besides those two fight, it's going to be in

00:47:39.570 --> 00:47:45.269
Riyadh. There was some chatter about Bokrum not

00:47:45.269 --> 00:47:51.130
having... He can't find opponents. Even with

00:47:51.130 --> 00:47:56.829
the Riyadh guys behind him, he still can't find

00:47:56.829 --> 00:48:04.170
a solid opponent. I don't know. It's kind of

00:48:04.170 --> 00:48:08.630
odd. I mean, I know Virgil kind of wants to.

00:48:08.789 --> 00:48:14.210
I know Virgil was pretty vocal about facing Bokrum.

00:48:14.769 --> 00:48:18.170
He did want to fight him. Yeah, even Josh fucking

00:48:18.170 --> 00:48:20.929
Kelly. When's the last time you heard that name?

00:48:21.050 --> 00:48:24.369
But he was still like, yeah, put me in the ring.

00:48:25.010 --> 00:48:27.210
Send me the contract. I'll sign it tomorrow.

00:48:29.319 --> 00:48:31.599
And, yeah, I feel like they're going to do Erickson

00:48:31.599 --> 00:48:34.119
Lubin with Buckner. That's where they're going.

00:48:35.460 --> 00:48:37.300
It's crazy that Erickson Lubin is still around,

00:48:37.500 --> 00:48:40.019
you know. He's still young, but it's crazy that,

00:48:40.079 --> 00:48:43.719
you know. Yeah. He's back in paddle contention

00:48:43.719 --> 00:48:48.079
once again. In my opinion, he hasn't really earned

00:48:48.079 --> 00:48:53.719
that right, you know. No, he has not. Dude, I'm

00:48:53.719 --> 00:48:57.130
still mad at you. of Jesus Ramos. I'm still fucking

00:48:57.130 --> 00:49:03.250
mad about that. That is still upsetting. That

00:49:03.250 --> 00:49:06.909
still makes me mad. Jesus Ramos got bumped to

00:49:06.909 --> 00:49:09.090
the back of the line. Sure, he probably wasn't

00:49:09.090 --> 00:49:13.650
going to last at the front of the line, but still.

00:49:14.730 --> 00:49:18.170
He still won the fight. That doesn't put him

00:49:18.170 --> 00:49:20.909
at the front. That doesn't justify getting jogged

00:49:20.909 --> 00:49:23.730
by Erickson Lubin for no reason. Of all the people.

00:49:25.199 --> 00:49:28.760
but it was a move to make so that they could

00:49:28.760 --> 00:49:33.639
recycle Ericsson Lubin. They're all in for another

00:49:33.639 --> 00:49:38.800
Spencer. I mean, I don't know. I feel like if

00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:42.320
Ericsson Lubin gets in the mix, you know, and

00:49:42.320 --> 00:49:44.300
if he wins, you know, it'd be pretty interesting.

00:49:45.039 --> 00:49:48.820
I don't know. I hope Mark Barkham wins. Yeah,

00:49:48.820 --> 00:49:51.019
I don't believe so. Mark Barkham's going to fucking

00:49:51.019 --> 00:49:56.480
kill him, dude. I don't need those Probox guys,

00:49:56.619 --> 00:50:01.559
man. You never know. Probox fellas. Okay, so

00:50:01.559 --> 00:50:04.860
here we go. We've Quentin Tarantino'd this whole

00:50:04.860 --> 00:50:09.500
thing. We're back at Mario Barrios and Manny

00:50:09.500 --> 00:50:14.380
Pacquiao. Anything more to say? Anything more

00:50:14.380 --> 00:50:20.280
to add? Did we talk about people yet? I kind

00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.119
of skipped them because he had a super late replacement.

00:50:26.000 --> 00:50:31.059
If he lost, then we'd be having a different conversation.

00:50:31.320 --> 00:50:35.619
Yeah, you're right. Alright, anything more for

00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:40.340
Barrios, Pacquiao, before we move on? Pacquiao,

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.420
please retire. Please don't come back. No, Pacquiao,

00:50:43.480 --> 00:50:45.940
don't retire. Go beat up Roley and then we can

00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:50.139
get another Mayweather fight. Oh, boy. You've

00:50:50.139 --> 00:50:54.019
done it. That'd be so funny. That'd just be funny.

00:50:54.480 --> 00:50:58.300
And you know what? You know what? Any type of,

00:50:58.320 --> 00:51:00.739
like, super event with a stacked undercard that

00:51:00.739 --> 00:51:05.860
isn't in Riaz is a win at this point. Yeah, I

00:51:05.860 --> 00:51:08.280
mean, that's gonna be... Mayweather Pacquiao

00:51:08.280 --> 00:51:12.079
2 in Vegas for a welterweight title with a bunch

00:51:12.079 --> 00:51:14.559
of, like, with a stacked undercard would be fire.

00:51:16.920 --> 00:51:18.840
Yeah, I mean, that would be pretty good, but...

00:51:18.840 --> 00:51:27.099
A man can only dream. Roly, come on. Roly will

00:51:27.099 --> 00:51:30.420
sidemask shit. He will fight Pacquiao. That's

00:51:30.420 --> 00:51:33.760
not even a... I have no idea. That'd be a funny

00:51:33.760 --> 00:51:38.300
fuck buildup, too. It's more likely if Ryan wins,

00:51:38.360 --> 00:51:41.900
you're gonna get Ryan versus Pacquiao. Which...

00:51:41.900 --> 00:51:47.039
I heard this one before already. Yeah. That's

00:51:47.039 --> 00:51:51.079
not a new bedtime story. Yeah, bro. I've been

00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.380
hearing this one for a while. What do you want?

00:51:56.539 --> 00:51:59.739
Pack you out to fight Ryan? Yeah, I've heard

00:51:59.739 --> 00:52:02.179
this one for a while. Saudi Arabia has been trying

00:52:02.179 --> 00:52:08.440
to do this for a while. All right. We got to

00:52:08.440 --> 00:52:12.159
keep it rolling. Let's see. Based on time, I'm

00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.900
going to do this now. And then we'll talk about

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00:58:20.949 --> 00:58:24.409
one bit of recap that I wanted to save a bit

00:58:24.409 --> 00:58:27.989
of time for. The Queensberry card at Wembley

00:58:27.989 --> 00:58:34.159
Arena in London. One really quickly to get off,

00:58:34.280 --> 00:58:37.800
just to get off the docket as quickly as we can.

00:58:38.519 --> 00:58:43.059
Lawrence Okoli, UD over Kevin Lorena. Send him

00:58:43.059 --> 00:58:45.139
back to McDonald's, dude. I'm fucking done with

00:58:45.139 --> 00:58:50.880
Lawrence Okoli. We've been done. We've been done.

00:58:51.139 --> 00:58:54.480
Back to McDonald's, please. Yeah, it's about

00:58:54.480 --> 00:59:00.260
time. When he was at Cruiserweight, it made sense.

00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:03.699
It made sense that he was there, but now he's

00:59:03.699 --> 00:59:06.099
at heavyweight. Like, bro, you're not going anywhere

00:59:06.099 --> 00:59:09.659
here. He's also a co -main, too, for a pay -per

00:59:09.659 --> 00:59:13.559
-view. I know. Nasty, so. Who does that, bro?

00:59:14.780 --> 00:59:16.760
Like, he's bounced around promotions because

00:59:16.760 --> 00:59:21.059
no one fucking wants him. Like. Somebody who

00:59:21.059 --> 00:59:24.199
does not like you or care about you is who put

00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:28.139
him as your co -main. Our co -main, let me restate.

00:59:29.860 --> 00:59:35.159
You got to pay for that shit, dog. I did. I sure

00:59:35.159 --> 00:59:38.000
did. I don't want to see Lawrence Coley ever

00:59:38.000 --> 00:59:42.599
again. I would prefer not to as well. I don't

00:59:42.599 --> 00:59:44.599
want to see him anywhere near Richard Torres

00:59:44.599 --> 00:59:47.940
Jr. I don't even want to see him taking my fucking

00:59:47.940 --> 00:59:50.199
order at McDonald's. He's got to stay at the

00:59:50.199 --> 00:59:54.940
back. Fry cook only? Yeah. I don't even want

00:59:54.940 --> 01:00:01.440
to see him taking my fucking order. Main event,

01:00:01.699 --> 01:00:06.820
Oleksandr Usyk KO5 over Daniel Dubois. This was

01:00:06.820 --> 01:00:13.000
a rematch. It was technically for Undisputed,

01:00:13.000 --> 01:00:16.739
so that makes Usyk two -time heavyweight Undisputed

01:00:16.739 --> 01:00:21.059
champion. I feel this was only a technicality,

01:00:21.059 --> 01:00:25.519
and Usyk's been Undisputed the whole time. Yep.

01:00:26.010 --> 01:00:34.610
But regardless, Usyk is him. He is fucking magic.

01:00:34.789 --> 01:00:40.170
He is fucking in -ring wizardry. Whatever other

01:00:40.170 --> 01:00:45.510
storytime description you want to use of him,

01:00:45.849 --> 01:00:55.670
Usyk is him. And Dubois is not. Uzik is the man.

01:00:55.989 --> 01:01:00.090
We are watching an all -timer. We are watching

01:01:00.090 --> 01:01:05.949
one of the Mount Rushmore of heavyweight boxers.

01:01:05.969 --> 01:01:09.349
That's what we're looking at right now. One of

01:01:09.349 --> 01:01:14.150
the greatest ever lived. Does anybody want to

01:01:14.150 --> 01:01:17.730
try to balance the glazing that I've been doing?

01:01:17.789 --> 01:01:20.539
I will. Go for it. I'll bounce it. Oh, of course

01:01:20.539 --> 01:01:24.380
you would. As I always do. As I always do. You

01:01:24.380 --> 01:01:26.179
guys can shit on Dubois all you want, but he

01:01:26.179 --> 01:01:27.780
lost to one of the greatest heavyweights of all

01:01:27.780 --> 01:01:29.900
time. That's all I got to say. Yeah. Come on.

01:01:30.320 --> 01:01:34.360
Yeah. I mean, Dubois, you know, he came out aggressive

01:01:34.360 --> 01:01:39.000
enough. He got knocked out, you know. And he

01:01:39.000 --> 01:01:41.219
still got up and he got knocked out. I mean,

01:01:41.239 --> 01:01:47.219
come on. You can't dog on him for having a...

01:01:48.159 --> 01:01:49.920
having lost to one of the greatest of all time.

01:01:50.059 --> 01:01:52.280
You're just making my argument for Usyk being

01:01:52.280 --> 01:01:55.920
an all -timer even better. Exactly. I mean, I

01:01:55.920 --> 01:01:57.880
think Usyk is also one of the greatest of all

01:01:57.880 --> 01:02:02.519
time as well. But to say that Dubois sucks is...

01:02:02.519 --> 01:02:05.980
Oh, no. I wasn't trying to. No. I was saying

01:02:05.980 --> 01:02:08.840
Dubois is not him after all the stuff and the

01:02:08.840 --> 01:02:11.260
build -up. Oh. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, then, yeah.

01:02:11.340 --> 01:02:12.519
That's the case. Yeah, I agree with you guys.

01:02:12.940 --> 01:02:16.610
But I still think Dubois can... Once Usyk retires,

01:02:16.650 --> 01:02:18.789
he can take those titles over. He will continue

01:02:18.789 --> 01:02:22.429
being a dominant force at heavyweight. Make no

01:02:22.429 --> 01:02:27.050
mistake about it. For sure. He just is not Usyk.

01:02:28.469 --> 01:02:31.670
Usyk has nothing left to prove, guys. It's time

01:02:31.670 --> 01:02:34.670
to hang him up, dog. You've done everything.

01:02:35.110 --> 01:02:44.139
Everything. Farewell fight. Farewell fight. Yeah,

01:02:44.139 --> 01:02:48.039
he did. Oh, no, not Dillian White. You know what?

01:02:48.599 --> 01:02:51.219
Farewell fight. Do a rematch with Chizora just

01:02:51.219 --> 01:02:53.860
for fun. You guys can both retire on the same

01:02:53.860 --> 01:02:57.639
fight. Well, imagine Chizora chins him and knocks

01:02:57.639 --> 01:03:01.340
him out. And, oh, my God. Chizora's the undisputed

01:03:01.340 --> 01:03:04.639
heavyweight. He's a dead man. He's a dead man.

01:03:04.840 --> 01:03:09.000
Guys, has this guy been using the shrooms? Sponsor?

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Fathoming Chizora. That's the Undisputed Champion.

01:03:15.539 --> 01:03:18.739
If Chizora wins, then he can fight Deontay Wilder.

01:03:18.980 --> 01:03:21.280
And then Deontay Wilder knocks him out with him.

01:03:21.340 --> 01:03:25.739
Deontay Wilder. And then we have the American

01:03:25.739 --> 01:03:27.380
Heavyweight. American Undisputed Heavyweight.

01:03:27.760 --> 01:03:33.900
Come on. Tyson Fury shows up at 300 pounds to

01:03:33.900 --> 01:03:39.639
beat Wilder a fourth time. Well, the thing is

01:03:39.639 --> 01:03:41.809
Wilder knocks him out. In the fourth fight, just

01:03:41.809 --> 01:03:43.989
letting you know. Deontay Wilder knocks everybody

01:03:43.989 --> 01:03:49.989
out. This guy's the script. I was thinking Usyk

01:03:49.989 --> 01:03:56.610
could fight Jake Paul to get paid. As a farewell

01:03:56.610 --> 01:04:02.349
fight? Yeah, to get paid. I would like for Usyk

01:04:02.349 --> 01:04:04.130
to get paid. It's basically the plot of Rocky.

01:04:04.730 --> 01:04:10.219
Yeah. It basically is. It's basically the plot

01:04:10.219 --> 01:04:15.739
of Rocky. An older undefeated heavyweight champ

01:04:15.739 --> 01:04:19.519
basically doesn't make a wish fight against the

01:04:19.519 --> 01:04:25.880
shitter. The shitter who needs relevance. It's

01:04:25.880 --> 01:04:30.940
basically the plot of Rocky. If Jake Paul were...

01:04:30.940 --> 01:04:36.360
Or if Rocky were terrible. Well, what matter

01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:38.280
if Jake Paul actually wins the fight and then

01:04:38.280 --> 01:04:39.880
we still have an American Undisputed Heavyweight

01:04:39.880 --> 01:04:43.539
Champion? Come on. Oh, my God, bro. Undisputed

01:04:43.539 --> 01:04:51.340
Heavyweight Champion, Jake Paul. Wow. Yeah, that's

01:04:51.340 --> 01:04:54.719
quite a line. Speak it, believe it, receive it.

01:04:55.960 --> 01:05:02.909
That's all I got. You know what, man? That would

01:05:02.909 --> 01:05:05.289
just be further proof that Barrios is not the

01:05:05.289 --> 01:05:09.789
worst champ in the last 10 years. This further

01:05:09.789 --> 01:05:14.889
helps my Barrios defense. Well, I mean, yeah.

01:05:15.010 --> 01:05:17.230
I mean, Usyk's never fought an American Heavyweight

01:05:17.230 --> 01:05:20.190
before, right? I mean, come on. He fought Chaz

01:05:20.190 --> 01:05:24.989
Witherspoon. Michael Hunter? Michael Hunter was

01:05:24.989 --> 01:05:27.849
a cruiserweight, but I also agree there. They

01:05:27.849 --> 01:05:32.429
both moved up, so technically... Yeah. Come on,

01:05:32.429 --> 01:05:33.849
come on. He's never fought an American. He fought

01:05:33.849 --> 01:05:40.670
Chaz Witherspoon. I mean, hey. U6 beating Brit

01:05:40.670 --> 01:05:44.030
Bums. That's going to be the argument. All U6

01:05:44.030 --> 01:05:46.190
has done is beat British Bums. I would like for

01:05:46.190 --> 01:05:47.610
Lin. He's never done anything with his career.

01:05:47.789 --> 01:05:50.650
I would like to say specifically to Lin. It's

01:05:50.650 --> 01:05:54.429
just nothing but Brit Bums. These guys are fucking

01:05:54.429 --> 01:05:59.389
useless. That's the perfect rage bait. That would

01:05:59.389 --> 01:06:01.130
be for a two -hour podcast if it was Ragebait.

01:06:01.269 --> 01:06:04.989
That's the Ragebait. How is AJ the least useless

01:06:04.989 --> 01:06:07.570
of his opponents, but the worst in terms of their

01:06:07.570 --> 01:06:12.909
standings right now? How is AJ the most competent?

01:06:13.769 --> 01:06:16.809
AJ was the most competent Usyk opponent, but

01:06:16.809 --> 01:06:22.289
the worst overall guy. Three out of four. That's

01:06:22.289 --> 01:06:30.230
really it. Three out of four. He never fought

01:06:30.230 --> 01:06:35.329
Deontay Wilder. Or Tyson Fury. That era is just

01:06:35.329 --> 01:06:39.489
frauds. Just a bunch of frauds. And then he lost

01:06:39.489 --> 01:06:46.369
when they're not frauds. I mean, honestly, I

01:06:46.369 --> 01:06:50.510
think that if Wilder and AJ fought when they

01:06:50.510 --> 01:06:53.329
did, none of this shit would have happened. Usuk

01:06:53.329 --> 01:06:57.300
would not even... No. We would have had an undisputed

01:06:57.300 --> 01:07:00.000
heavyweight champion. God, the timeline where

01:07:00.000 --> 01:07:03.940
Jarrell Miller does not get exposed for, like,

01:07:03.940 --> 01:07:09.139
eating the entire pharmacy. I mean, that's...

01:07:09.139 --> 01:07:12.079
I mean, either way, that whole thing, that whole

01:07:12.079 --> 01:07:14.380
three -fight deal with DeAsian would be cooked.

01:07:15.199 --> 01:07:19.079
Because, I mean, AJ did get defeated by Rick

01:07:19.079 --> 01:07:23.090
and Andy Ruiz, you know, so... Oh, my God. That's

01:07:23.090 --> 01:07:25.389
what I mean. If Jarrell Miller didn't fucking,

01:07:25.469 --> 01:07:28.809
like, eat the pharmacy, they wouldn't have fought

01:07:28.809 --> 01:07:30.690
Ruiz, and we would have still... There would

01:07:30.690 --> 01:07:32.349
have been... The timeline would have been all

01:07:32.349 --> 01:07:37.530
right. Mm -hmm. Yeah. Fortunately, we don't live

01:07:37.530 --> 01:07:39.289
in a good... Or it would have been even funnier

01:07:39.289 --> 01:07:41.130
because it would have been so many... Or it would

01:07:41.130 --> 01:07:42.789
have been even funnier if Jarrell Miller beat

01:07:42.789 --> 01:07:49.360
AJ there. Yeah. Then we get an all -American

01:07:49.360 --> 01:07:52.019
undisputed heavyweight match between Terrell

01:07:52.019 --> 01:08:01.300
Miller and Deontay Wilder. Fuck. Oh, God. That

01:08:01.300 --> 01:08:04.420
would be just the best timeline for me. That

01:08:04.420 --> 01:08:10.840
would be fantastic. Saudi Arabia never enters

01:08:10.840 --> 01:08:13.360
boxing because they're so repulsed at the fact

01:08:13.360 --> 01:08:19.199
that these two guys are undisputed. Contenders.

01:08:20.579 --> 01:08:22.539
We're done with this. I'm going to go buy a fucking

01:08:22.539 --> 01:08:26.119
golf course or something. Fuck you guys. We'll

01:08:26.119 --> 01:08:32.600
go buy the NBA. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, we

01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:34.380
can count Deontay Wilder as much as we want,

01:08:34.439 --> 01:08:36.239
but he's the only one that fought Tyson Fury

01:08:36.239 --> 01:08:38.840
out of the three. Those are the only two that

01:08:38.840 --> 01:08:41.979
fought each other. So, you know, fuck Anthony

01:08:41.979 --> 01:08:48.850
Joshua. Fuck Eddie here for that, actually. um

01:08:48.850 --> 01:08:53.850
let's move into our previews and it's extremely

01:08:53.850 --> 01:08:58.210
light uh let's go oh this isn't even that light

01:08:58.210 --> 01:09:02.909
you think this is more i'm looking at next week's

01:09:02.909 --> 01:09:07.569
oh yeah okay so it's not that bad um but there's

01:09:07.569 --> 01:09:11.649
something yeah so wednesday july 30th by the

01:09:11.649 --> 01:09:15.189
time you hear this this uh these fights already

01:09:15.189 --> 01:09:19.619
may have happened But because we don't have a

01:09:19.619 --> 01:09:26.239
whole lot else to talk about. Let's see here.

01:09:26.340 --> 01:09:31.000
From the bottom up. Taken at the Yokohama Buntai

01:09:31.000 --> 01:09:36.520
in Yokohama, Kanagawa, Japan. Yuki Taniguchi

01:09:36.520 --> 01:09:43.560
versus Yukihiro Kitamura. Oh, that's fun. Tensho

01:09:43.560 --> 01:09:52.430
Isobe. Versus Joe Umezawa. Eric Rosa versus Kyosuke

01:09:52.430 --> 01:09:57.029
Takami. That's pretty much it for the prelims.

01:09:58.310 --> 01:10:00.649
I'm sure there's more like if you were in the

01:10:00.649 --> 01:10:05.229
building, but we don't have access to that. Yeah.

01:10:07.670 --> 01:10:12.260
Okay. In the co -main Kenshiro Teragi. he is

01:10:12.260 --> 01:10:15.439
the wbc flyweight champion he will be fighting

01:10:15.439 --> 01:10:21.899
ricardo sandoval so that's fun i'm expecting

01:10:21.899 --> 01:10:25.020
this is another this is going to be a pretty

01:10:25.020 --> 01:10:30.260
easy hard fought but he relatively relatively

01:10:30.260 --> 01:10:40.189
easy win and antonio vargas The WBA 118 champion

01:10:40.189 --> 01:10:45.550
versus Daigo Higa, the second -rated contender.

01:10:47.949 --> 01:10:50.909
Tsutsumi, for whatever reason, they decided to

01:10:50.909 --> 01:10:55.149
strip him instead of giving him... Like, he's

01:10:55.149 --> 01:10:59.449
medically... He's out for medical reasons. So

01:10:59.449 --> 01:11:01.970
they... I don't know, like, why they didn't give

01:11:01.970 --> 01:11:04.229
him the champion in recess or whatever, but here

01:11:04.229 --> 01:11:09.079
we are fighting for his... His title. Against

01:11:09.079 --> 01:11:11.979
the dude that he just had a draw with. Daigo

01:11:11.979 --> 01:11:21.539
Higa. This is kind of weird. But. Yeah. That.

01:11:22.699 --> 01:11:26.539
Utter silence. This is why you go listen to Boxing

01:11:26.539 --> 01:11:29.800
Before Dark. Because this is where we talk about

01:11:29.800 --> 01:11:31.819
a lot of the shit that happens before you wake

01:11:31.819 --> 01:11:41.590
up. Moving on. Saturday, August 2nd. Golden Boy

01:11:41.590 --> 01:11:47.109
at the University of Illinois, Chicago. Interesting

01:11:47.109 --> 01:11:50.510
place to put this on, but whatever. I'm here

01:11:50.510 --> 01:11:56.489
for it. I like when non -traditional cities get

01:11:56.489 --> 01:12:05.609
a big boxing event. Do any of these prelims?

01:12:06.409 --> 01:12:10.529
Are they familiar to either of you? No. Not at

01:12:10.529 --> 01:12:14.770
all. All right, cool. So, Yair Gallardo Lozano

01:12:14.770 --> 01:12:21.850
versus Quinton Rankin at light heavyweight. Okay,

01:12:21.989 --> 01:12:26.010
Joshua Edwards versus Kamen Audi at heavyweight.

01:12:26.569 --> 01:12:31.270
Tristan Calcruth versus Kareem Hackett at cruiserweight.

01:12:32.010 --> 01:12:37.350
And here we go. Regis Progray versus Jojo Diaz

01:12:37.350 --> 01:12:43.149
at 140. Peto Diaz is still around. Yeah. Oh,

01:12:43.149 --> 01:12:48.270
my God. On the Discord pick league, I pick Progray

01:12:48.270 --> 01:12:53.489
by stoppage. Better. I do not rate Jojo Diaz.

01:12:53.649 --> 01:12:57.630
In, like, today's Jojo Diaz, I do not rate him

01:12:57.630 --> 01:13:04.479
at all. Yeah, like... Why are we still talking

01:13:04.479 --> 01:13:07.659
about this, man? He's washed. He's a pedophile.

01:13:08.439 --> 01:13:12.439
Progray is only one of those things. I like how

01:13:12.439 --> 01:13:15.659
washed came before pedophile. One of these things

01:13:15.659 --> 01:13:19.359
is worse. Well, because the pedophilia doesn't

01:13:19.359 --> 01:13:24.699
factor into the fighting. Yeah, just on a personal

01:13:24.699 --> 01:13:29.060
basis. It's an important thing to mention with

01:13:29.060 --> 01:13:31.460
JoJo, but it doesn't factor into the fight itself.

01:13:33.390 --> 01:13:37.090
Both washed, but Pro Grey. I think Pro Grey is

01:13:37.090 --> 01:13:43.630
less washed and bigger and stronger. Just everything's

01:13:43.630 --> 01:13:46.789
lining up for Pro Grey. He does not touch children

01:13:46.789 --> 01:13:52.050
or try to groom children. He's not on Snapchat

01:13:52.050 --> 01:13:56.949
texting 16 -year -olds. He crashes go -karts.

01:13:57.789 --> 01:14:01.960
That's it. He has crawfish boils. Sounds like

01:14:01.960 --> 01:14:03.859
a pretty chill guy. That sounds pretty fucking

01:14:03.859 --> 01:14:06.899
excellent. I've seen some Crawfish Boy old TikToks.

01:14:06.939 --> 01:14:10.239
God damn, I want to go to one so badly. That

01:14:10.239 --> 01:14:12.439
thing on Twitter was pretty funny when he was

01:14:12.439 --> 01:14:14.539
just like, guys, how do I get a gold go -kart

01:14:14.539 --> 01:14:18.380
out of a ditch? That was a pretty fun day. That

01:14:18.380 --> 01:14:21.619
was a pretty fun day. That is some Regis -ass

01:14:21.619 --> 01:14:30.460
shit to say. That was some fun shit. Yeah. But...

01:14:30.880 --> 01:14:34.720
Maybe not as fun. Oscar Duarte versus Kenneth

01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:41.420
Sims Jr. 140 pounds in the main event. I have

01:14:41.420 --> 01:14:44.819
heard of Kenny Sims. I've seen him fight a few

01:14:44.819 --> 01:14:48.680
times. I really feel like Duarte has the experience

01:14:48.680 --> 01:14:53.899
here, and it's going to be a pretty brutal affair,

01:14:54.079 --> 01:14:58.369
I would say, in the mid -lates. Like five. Oh,

01:14:58.390 --> 01:15:04.170
yeah. Or six, eight, seven. That area. Kenny's

01:15:04.170 --> 01:15:06.989
still kind of young. But at the same time, I

01:15:06.989 --> 01:15:10.010
don't know. I just got a feeling he might have

01:15:10.010 --> 01:15:14.189
the upset. You think he can pull it off? Maybe,

01:15:14.229 --> 01:15:16.890
yeah. Because I do know that Duarte, he's kind

01:15:16.890 --> 01:15:21.449
of one -dimensional. Yeah, the stylistic matchup

01:15:21.449 --> 01:15:26.159
does favor Sims. Mm -hmm. So that's why I think

01:15:26.159 --> 01:15:28.359
if you can, if there's someone that you can pull

01:15:28.359 --> 01:15:30.060
off the upset against, it would be probably Duarte.

01:15:32.319 --> 01:15:35.460
Yeah, this is actually a good lineup for Kenny.

01:15:36.579 --> 01:15:43.159
I actually chose him by decision. In my pick

01:15:43.159 --> 01:15:47.279
week. I picked Duarte, I think, by stoppage.

01:15:47.399 --> 01:15:52.220
But I don't know. I think the experience is going

01:15:52.220 --> 01:15:55.869
to carry him through here. We'll see. Yeah, we'll

01:15:55.869 --> 01:15:58.989
see for sure. Once you point it out, like, oh

01:15:58.989 --> 01:16:01.869
shit, that's right. Kenny Sims does have the...

01:16:01.869 --> 01:16:08.109
He has the style perks to beat a guy like Duarte.

01:16:09.310 --> 01:16:13.270
I'm the only one that chose Duarte. I need to

01:16:13.270 --> 01:16:17.109
get back in the picks lead. Yeah, they've been

01:16:17.109 --> 01:16:20.390
tagging a little bit. Yeah, I did it like twice.

01:16:21.750 --> 01:16:23.979
I'm going to get involved. I stopped doing it

01:16:23.979 --> 01:16:30.260
once I stopped managing it. I was first place

01:16:30.260 --> 01:16:33.800
in the last one that Greg ran where half the

01:16:33.800 --> 01:16:39.060
fights got cancelled. The fucking Greg baboon

01:16:39.060 --> 01:16:45.619
curse. Anything more for the golden boy card?

01:16:49.739 --> 01:16:54.319
Stop doing fights in better places, please. Better

01:16:54.319 --> 01:16:57.699
venues. I like that they're doing this in Chicago.

01:16:58.939 --> 01:17:02.300
The University of Illinois. You guys can pick

01:17:02.300 --> 01:17:05.260
a rec hall or something. And an actual arena.

01:17:06.079 --> 01:17:10.760
Yeah. You guys can do better than a university.

01:17:11.119 --> 01:17:16.140
Get better champions. Get better champions. Get

01:17:16.140 --> 01:17:18.909
better champions. Golden Boy is the only promotional

01:17:18.909 --> 01:17:21.289
company that doesn't have any male champions.

01:17:21.289 --> 01:17:24.510
No active champions. Active male champions, yeah.

01:17:24.989 --> 01:17:27.310
Yeah, they have... What do you mean? Most valuable

01:17:27.310 --> 01:17:32.289
promotions doesn't either. Oh, no, I take that

01:17:32.289 --> 01:17:35.869
back. They have Zurdo. Oh, good call. That's

01:17:35.869 --> 01:17:38.710
right. Yeah. But that's only one. That's only

01:17:38.710 --> 01:17:41.930
one, so... That's one. And it's a cruiserweight,

01:17:41.989 --> 01:17:46.979
so... That's all you got now. That's Jake Paul's

01:17:46.979 --> 01:17:51.199
white flag. He owns those streets. Yeah. All

01:17:51.199 --> 01:17:57.199
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01:19:23.829 --> 01:19:28.050
Golden Boy at the University of Chicago, or University

01:19:28.050 --> 01:19:37.270
of Illinois, Chicago. Harding words. Let's go

01:19:37.270 --> 01:19:43.090
Bam. I love Bam. ProBucks good. My cat, my signature.

01:19:46.649 --> 01:19:55.250
Robots good. Bam good. Music good. Alright, well,

01:19:55.369 --> 01:19:58.069
that's it. That's been it for this edition of

01:19:58.069 --> 01:20:00.750
The Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you on the other

01:20:00.750 --> 01:20:01.010
side.