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Alright. Fucking let's do this. Boxing B -sides
back up in your ears. Woof. What a weekend. We're
not talking about it this time. Stay tuned and
we'll get you all caught up. The homies have
assembled. Joined by the one and only Saul. How
you doing, bud? Doing great. How about you? Fucking
miffed about the weekend. I don't know why yet
because I can't tell anybody. I can't tell you
why. I'm very angry slash happy. Hedging all
the bets. All the bets. And Shanada joining us
once again. Yeah. Everybody has to listen to
me like twice this week. Sucks to be them. Yeah,
we might be getting a... A new voice on Before
Dark. I'm excited. I hope it works out. Yeah,
I think it will. Who's the... Are you allowed
to say who's the new voice? Australian Jacob.
Terramoana Jab. Terramoana? Yeah. Pretty good,
huh? Yeah, the time zones just work out a lot
better than England. Because me and him are almost
the same time. And then Leo just has to... adapt
for us it's fine um there was also some mma but
you'll have to check out ultimate effing casuals
if you want to hear more about that just because
oh speaking of the discord and mma um uh is it
zoe i think it's zoe me and zoe have started
watching the friday night fights from one fc
and being active in the chat It's pretty fun.
Oh, man. Finally. I talk about them all the time.
I'm waiting for people to kick us into the MMA
thread or room or whatever the fuck they're called
in Discord, but they haven't done it yet, so
we'll see. Well, if you're Night Crew, then...
Yeah, there's less rules, Night Crew. It's mostly
Zo and me and Vom. so Vom doesn't care. Yeah.
I thought you were going to bring up Connor versus
the Muckalai. Oh, yeah, the picture. Connor McWheener.
Oh, man. I have not seen the unedited picture,
and I don't want to. I haven't either. I've seen
it. I'm getting the sense, just because a follow
-up that people have been posting is tying a
weight to a string. And attaching that to your
piece. And that's what people are saying after
they see McGregor's piece. That he does that
for fun? To extend it, I think? Ridiculous. Honestly,
I don't even know why they put it in the picture,
Doug. Did they just show off, I think? We should
have a new boxing show. Talk about fighters.
Wing wings. Yep. There's a surprising amount
of them that you can see if you want to. Yep.
Boxers are dirty, dirty motherfuckers, I'll tell
you. Some of them are just some dirty, dirty
motherfuckers. Nasty. No, I mean, if you're in
Discord, do you see Roy's on a daily basis? Oh,
yeah. If you want to know what we mean by seeing
Roy on a daily basis, you're going to have to
join Discord. RoyBonesJr. Slash Discord. All
right. Let's get into a little bit of women's
boxing. Because on July 11th, Netflix, most valuable
promotions, fucking Jake Paul does it again.
Delivers another fucking scorcher. This was a
surprisingly good card. Yeah. A lot of decisions.
I mean, what do you... It's a women's card. It's
women's balking. You're going to get that. But
still, it was a good card. Let's just go from
the bottom up. I don't... Tam Tibble, I think
it is. Stops Mary. Casamassa in the fifth. Ramla
Ali, UD over Lila Furtado. This was a bit of
a robbery. Was it? Wasn't it? Am I mixing them
up? Ali did not win that fight. Even she was
surprised. Is she related to the world famous?
Maybe that's why they dropped somebody. Ramla
Ali does have a really good backstory. I think
that's why they push her so hard. She's a refugee
and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I remember who you're
talking about now. Yeah. Just went completely
blank on her for a second. But, like, back me
up. That was a robbery. Like, a pretty clear
robbery. Ramla leaves the house. I probably got
the nod from, like, before the card started.
Like, hey, this is our girl, so... Yeah, I'm
sure that's what happened. But, like... She's
not that good, and they're really, really pushing
her because they're gonna make a movie at some
point. Like, refugee girl gets into boxing after
moving to the UK. Yada, yada, yada. From Mogadishu.
Yeah. She made some borderline racist comment
about how even the Mexican judges saw that she
won, except, like, I'm pretty sure... for tato's
brazilian so like anyway yeah she's brazilian
yeah um interim wbc super lightweight title chantelle
cameron pulls it off over jessica camara fun
uh sure real quick yeah go ahead yeah i didn't
watch this card Okay. It's all right. I tried
washing it too. I turned it off. That's all right.
We'll bring you back in for the ring three. Yeah.
Sharnika Johnson, Neeks, stops Sharetta Metcalf
in the ninth. I believe this was a undisputed
unification. This was the final fight to make
the four -piece crown. Yeah. This was a pretty
good fight, though. Or I thought it was pretty
good. I missed Sharnika. She was one of the main
ones on the undercard I wanted to see. Is this
an upset? Shadesha Green over Savannah Marshall.
Yes, it is. And I'm the only one who picked her
in the pick lead. I picked Savannah Marshall.
Everybody. Why did you pick different? Because
I don't think Savannah Marshall's that good,
to be honest. Unless you're British, most people's
exposure to her is just the Clarissa Shields
fight, I would expect. Yeah, I think I've seen
a few of her fights. I watch a lot of those British
cards, but I just... Shadeza Green's got more
power. Yeah. I thought she was going to hurt
her, and... I think that's what happened. She
hurt her and then Savannah Marshall's output
went down. Alicia Baumgartner turns in a performance.
One of the performances of her entire career.
Not that good of one. Yeah, against Jennifer
Miranda. Undisputed Super Featherweight title
was on the line. Or championship was on the line.
Fucking... You got to keep your stuff. Congratulations.
Would not recommend this fight. I actually thought
this one was going to be fun and it was not.
I expected it would have been just because Baumgartner
is like that. Yeah. Three belt unification at
super bantamweight. Ellie Scottney beats Yamileth
Mercado. I didn't see this one. It was alright.
It was what you expect from women's boxing. Yeah.
Not to be that person, but not that exciting.
You know what else wasn't that exciting? Very
surprisingly, Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano.
Katie Taylor wins once again. This was a lot
more convincing. I'm surprised. that this was
a majority decision. I don't know how you could
score to draw, personally. I think they really
wanted Amanda Serrano to win this one. Like,
they. The boxing they. Yeah. MVP? Probably. If
nobody else. I'm already hearing rumors about
a fourth. Nobody wants that. This is done. Both
of them said in their post -fight interviews
that they didn't want to. Yeah, I just mean,
like, the internet has... That's dumb. Taylor
won all of them. Like, just... Whether you think
she's not that good or not, she won. So, deal
with it. Is she in any current fighter? Yeah,
I'm pretty sure Katie Taylor is. Yeah. Anything
more for Ladies' Night? I said before, and I
stand by it, I don't like the all -women's cards.
Yeah, people are going to watch for the rest
of the year. Yeah, there's that. And it's just
way better if you mix them. Like, even it...
A lot of women's fights are not that exciting.
And when you try and fill a whole card, you end
up with a lot of not very exciting fights. Just...
But... I mean, that happens on men's cards, too.
It's not just women's cards. But it's better
if it's mixed, I think. Yeah, I agree. Let's
skip the Ring 3 really quick to talk about Pro
Box at the Safe Martirina in Fresno. A bunch
of stuff happened. I picked it up here. Carlos
Balderas. Gets the stoppage. Fucking last second
over Salvador Brisseno. Fucking Lux Media favorite
Katsuma Akitsugi. UD over Jonas Sultan. Jonas
was tough. Yeah. But I think it was very clearly
Akitsugi took over about round six, maybe. Yeah,
I was going to say like four or five. But yeah,
regardless. Yeah. Akitsugi continues to look
good. They're not all going to be stoppages.
Well, those two stoppages on Pro Box before are
the only two knockouts of his entire career.
That's right. One of my personal favorites, Senbatar
Erdenabat. It's a UD over Humberto Galindo. Erdenabat.
I think that the height reach was bothering him
a bit. It took him a little bit of time to figure
it out. I think this is not the most exciting
performance or the most flashy, but he got the
job done. He'll be better for the experience,
I'll say, having the faith in Zemmatar. I walked
away from my screen for Eric Badillo versus Gerardo
Zapata. Did you watch this? No, I actually haven't
got the last two fights yet. I didn't know I
was going to be on the podcast today. Ah, well.
I was going to watch them in time for our podcast.
Yeah. Francisco Verón versus Vladimir Hernandez.
Vladimir... Day late, dollar short. pretty much
every step of the way from the beginning. It
was unfortunate because I like Vlad, but... Just
an overall schooling? Yeah, I would say that
would be the category to put it in. I wouldn't
call it one of the schoolings of the year yet,
but it's a good one. But, once again, Probox
delivers. Absolutely. When I saw this card, it
was all pretty fun. Yeah. Balderas. I was really
happy to see him get a stoppage. Alright. On
to ring three at the Louis Armstrong Stadium
in Queens, New York. Fucking bottom up. Here
we go. Reito Tsutsumi stops Michael Ruiz in the
second. This is the house fighter. From his debut
to now, he's signed to the ring, I guess, as
the promotional entity that it is now. I missed
this one. I didn't wake up early enough. It was
pretty good. Got him out. I do think Rayito's
the better of the two brothers, for sure. Hayato's
kind of mid, in my opinion, to be honest. I only
know his name because you know his name. Yeah.
He often fights on the Ioka cards. Almost always.
David Morel. Split decision? Question mark? over
Imam Khatiaf. Honestly, I'm still thinking about
it, honestly. Because as much as I would like
to say that Morel deserved it, he did not. I
believe that Imam Khatiaf won the fight. It was
a pretty close fight, first of all. So I wouldn't
say it's a robbery. per se too close to fight
two color robbery however i believe they did
favor morel just because i mean it's morel there's
an unknown unknown russian guy but i did a mom
kate gave david morel the hardest fight in his
career craze crazy to say that but yeah when
he's coming he's coming off of benavidez he's
coming off of benavidez he did he knocked him
down so we better be just gonna do So the thing
is that I don't want to say that Morel didn't
take the fight seriously because I believe he
did. But I don't think he took this fight as
seriously as the David Benavidez fight. I see
what you mean. He was doing some dumb things
in there. That's how he got knocked down, being
a fucking idiot. Yeah, he was being a dumb motherfucker
and got knocked out. Or got knocked down. And
I don't know how... Imam Khatia really lost.
I think it was 115 -113. Right? It's a 10 -rounder,
so 95 -94 for him. Yeah, so 95 -94, which I don't
know. It just don't sound right to me. That would
be a draw, except for the knockdown. Yeah. The
95 -94s are... but that 96 -93 with the knockdown,
that judge only gave Katya three rounds. That's
a madness scorecard in my opinion. I think at
most it should have been a draw. It should have
been a draw. It can't be a draw because there
was a knockdown. It would be very hard to make
it a draw. That would be pretty tough. Well,
they could have found a way because honestly,
it deserved a good draw because Emerald did not
deserve that one. That win, in my opinion. I'm
kind of glad he won. But at the same time, I'm
not. Because, I mean, I really do think that
Imam Khatia should have won. Yeah, I think they
should do it again. I'd watch it again. It was
a fun fight. It was a fun fight, but I also think
that David Morel, all the fighters, we'll get
to this right now. I'll talk about it at the
end. I think all the fighters were also encouraged
to not, quote -unquote, do the Tom and Jerry
running. You know? I don't think these two would
have anyways, would they? I think David Murrell
should have boxed better. The thing is that David
Murrell was doing really good on the inside,
but I think he found his kind of neat, what's
the word, kind of on the game plan a little too
late because at the end he was rope -a -doping.
He was sitting on the ropes and then would counter.
and I think he did a pretty good job doing that
to the point where I think if it went two more
rounds, he could have knocked him out. But it's
a shame that this was a 10 -rounder, you know?
Yeah. I think it deserved two more rounds, for
sure. But we'll never know how it goes again,
because I doubt that Muriel's going to do a rematch
with this guy. They're not going to take it.
It was too hard to fight. Yeah. High risk, low
reward. I think... Katya's stock went up with
this one, though. I'm pretty sure. Dramatically.
And I know that on the last podcast, it was me
and Isaac and Leo. I don't know. Which one of
you guys said it was going to be an easier fight?
I did. I know. Were you surprised? Were you surprised
when you saw it? Yes. I thought this was supposed
to be a get back for David Morrell. Like, you
had the... A tough fight with Benavidez. You
want to get back in the win column, and you want
to have something emphatic to kind of reestablish
your confidence in yourself. So that's what I
thought Imam Katsaev was, was a guy who's tough.
He looks tough on paper, but who really is this
guy anyway? He's never fought outside of fucking
Russia or Serbia. I wasn't expecting much, but
I'm very pleasantly surprised. I didn't want
to see him again. I'd like to. He's been fighting
out of Canada. He must be associated with, uh,
what's his name? Who's the right? Arthur better
be a eye of the butthole. Well, I mean, he's
been fighting in Montreal and Quebec and he's
Russian. So I assume he has some sort of connection.
Trying to remember the name of the dude. Is it
not? Oh, yeah. I don't know the trainer's names
and stuff. But, like, it is Arthur Beterbiev,
right? That's in Canada now? Yeah. I assume they
have some sort of connection. Because why else
would Russians go boxing Montreal? Of all places.
Yeah. Yeah. Anything more for this one? Nope.
All right. Subrio Matias. Majority decision over
Alberto Puello. Loses his WBC title. Subrio Matias
is a champion once again. This was a bit controversial.
Yeah, I was going to say. This was like a game
of two halves, right? Where Matias... How did
you see it playing out? You know, I believe that
I do think that Matias did deserve the win. It
was also a very close, hard -fought fight. But
the thing is that, and you're right, that the
first half that Matias dominated, he dominated
pretty hard. I would say starting round eight
is when he started slowing down considerably.
And so all those rounds, I think, went to play
after about round eight. I don't know. It's just...
This was a very good fight, by the way. Not to
mention, this was a very fun fight. Except it's
just... I don't know. I don't think it's a robbery.
I think Matias did deserve the win. But that's
my opinion. In the beginning, too. Yeah. While
they were still kind of figuring each other out.
Matias did have more success, though. You're
right. It's not so one -sided. Like... front
and back on the scorecards like I kind of thought
it was too it it was rounds three to seven that
Matias really won a lot of people gave one to
um Pueo yeah me too but Matias won round 10 on
every scorecard and I think that made a big difference
and he won round nine on the two scorecards he
won so it was actually round nines and ten that
won him the fight The thing with Matias, I would
say, is that he implemented his game very well.
And honestly, I'm kind of happy that his stock
went back up. Because, I mean, Matias is not
a boring fighter. He always brings the fight,
you know? I like Matias. He's fun. Whereas Puello,
I mean, I think Puello's an exciting fighter
to an extent. However, I think, I don't like
that he lost the last fight, in my opinion. And
that he got a decision. They robbed my boy Sandor
again. Yeah. They keep giving him decisions.
Pueo, you know. I don't know. I'm kind of happy
that... And this is not to Pueo because Pueo
is a boss. He deserves respect. But it's more
so like the promotional company that they just
kept doing bullshit, you know, robberies. You
know, allegedly. Close decisions always going
to Pueo. Yeah. And so I'm kind of glad that it's
in a different hands. Honestly, I would love
to see Mateus fight someone else besides Donald
Smith. Oh, God, they had it there. I forgot about
that. Oh, yeah, I did too. That's... Dude, nobody
wants to see that shit. Nobody wants to see that.
I don't think it mattered who won. No, it didn't.
Dalton Smith was getting the winner of this fight.
I kind of hope Matias, like, KOs him early. I
will say that I think that the whole debacle
with Dalton Smith is just pretty funny to see
live because I don't know exactly how it went,
but wasn't Matias saying, like, no, I don't want
to fight? And then Turkey was like, yes, you
will fight my brother. Something like that, yeah.
I think Matias was just confused. You wouldn't
fight my brother. You wouldn't fight Dalton Smith.
That's obviously a favor to Eddie Hearn. That's
the only way I see it. Or whoever promotes Dalton
Smith. I'm pretty sure Eddie Hearn promotes Dalton
Smith, right? I think so. Sounds right. Yeah,
so I'm pretty sure it's a favor to Eddie Hearn
that he's fighting Dalton Smith. Is Dalton Smith
really the number one? Contender? It don't seem
like it. For the WBC belt? Yeah, for the WBC.
Dalton Smith hasn't... If he is, he doesn't deserve
it. What's his best win? Like in Way Over the
Hill, Jose Zepeda? Like, who the fuck has he...
No, but really, like, look at his record. Who
the hell is Matthew Germain or Wally Uiza? Wally
Wheeler. Who the hell is he? Sam Maxwell. Billy
Allington. Tommy Noogie. Like, random nude. Dalton
Smith is number one. Sandra Martin. Isaac Cruz.
Arnold Barbosa. Liam Parrow. But the WBC is crazy.
Yeah. Dalton Smith does not deserve that ranking.
He has beaten fucking nobody. Literally, the
only name on his resume I recognize is Jose Zepeda,
and he fought him in 2024. I love Jose Zepeda,
but in 2024, he was not good. Another thing,
too, I think that San Ramon should get another
shot at the final eliminator if he is ranked
number two. I don't think that Dalton Smith really
became the mandatory, right? He didn't fight
a final eliminator, right? He didn't fight an
eliminator. He has the WBC silver. For whatever
that counts. It's a glorified mandatory challenger
spot. He beat some fucking weirdo from Quebec.
Like... This is like some WB... Not WB, like
IBF shit right here. This is not WBC. I mean,
that kind of shows you the standing of the division.
Sander Martin... Fucking outpoints Dalton Smith
all night, every night, seven days a week. Lin
in shambles. Lin knows it's true. What happened
to Gary Antoine Russell in the rankings, dude?
He has the WBA belt, so he doesn't get put into
their rankings. But he fought for the WBC, right?
The WBC. He did, yes. That's what I'm saying.
Maybe he just stopped paying for it or something,
dude, but I don't know. I think that... I think
Matias and Gary Antoine Russell should do a unification
bout. That would be a really fun fight. I think
Matias loses that one. Yeah, I don't know. I
don't know, because... I mean, Gary Antoine Russell
is a hard fighter to fight against, but... Matias
always has a puncher's chance, for sure. That,
but Matias always comes forward, dude. He doesn't
go back. Ryo went back. Boyle went back. You
know, all these other guys that fought GAR went
back. But Matias, I know for sure, will not fight
on the back foot because he can't even fight
on the front foot that well. He can do it okay.
Anything more for Superhero Matias? I hope he
gets a better fight than Dalton Smith. I expect
this will be better than Dalton Smith as well.
All right, Shakur Stevenson versus William Zepeda.
Look how they massacred my boy. Is that a good
meme to put up here? I don't know, man. I think
Zepeda did better than people expected him to.
And this is the one where the Tom and Jerry talk
really changed the fight. Shakur actually decided
to stand and fucking fight this time. And it
was exciting. Like, even I have to say. He was
fucking brilliant in the pocket. Yeah. Why don't
you do that more, dog? Exactly. This just makes
me, like, pissed off. Like, so you can do this.
You just don't. You just don't want to. Well,
the thing is, let me tell you this. I ate my
words that night. I ate my words all night. Because
I'll tell you this. I talked about this last
podcast, too. I know Shakur is... But the thing
is that I succumb to the noise. I will admit
that. I succumb to the noise of people saying
he's a boring fighter. He can still be a boring
fighter, but that boy can't fight. He has heart.
He can be scrappy. So from here on out, I'm going
to stop calling him a boring fighter. Because
I know he can't be. If he chooses to be a boring
fighter in the future, that's different than
actually being a boring fighter. You know what
I mean? Does that make sense? No, I disagree.
Choosing to be boring still makes you boring.
Well, I understand that, but he has the ability
to not be boring, is what I'm saying. I've always
said he has the ability, he just chooses not
to. And this proves it. And it makes me angry.
The thing is that with Zepeda, I will say this,
that Zepeda, you guys can disagree, I think that
he rocked Shakur hard in round, I think, four?
Is that the three or four? Zepeda did. Yeah,
he hurt him. I know what round you're talking
about. He rocked Shakur super hard. That got
him off balance. People say he was off balance.
I think the punch is what got him off balance.
It's what rocked him. And I think if someone
with a lot more power than that, you know, I
don't know what would happen. I'm like Tank,
you know, but we'll talk about that in a bit.
Yeah, because Zepeda's a volume guy. He's not
really a power guy. I don't think Zepeda hits
super hard. No, no, no. He never stops throwing.
Oh, yeah. Zepeda did a lot better in my eyes
than even what I was thinking, but I think that
Zepeda's stock kind of went up a little bit,
if that makes any sense, because, I mean, yeah,
he didn't do the best. Obviously, he... Did it
beat Shakur, but you know what? He gave Shakur
his hardest fight. You know? So they can still
use him for other future fights. You know, it
wasn't like he lost horribly. Oh, yeah. No, I
don't think this really hurt Zepeda. Zepeda's
reputation. I think everyone expected him to
lose. Yeah. But honestly, he lost a lot less
worse than what I expected. A lot of people also
thought he was going to get knocked out. What?
A bunch of people were saying that. What the
fuck? That is just absurd. Yeah, I couldn't see
how that would happen. Shakur put on a great
fight. Shakur threw hard punches that fight.
That was beautiful. And he didn't break his hand.
Yeah, exactly. That was some of the most beautiful
fighting I've seen in a while. Standing punch
in the pocket like that? It is... The scores
would suggest that Stevenson put on, like, an
absolute clinic. 118 -110 times 2, 119 -109.
Like, that's the best scores they gave him? The
game was 10 -2? Yeah, that's ridiculous. I think
Zepeda won at least three rounds. Yeah. He won
two, three, and four, in my opinion. Fans also
gave him two, three, and four as well. One judge
gave him seven and one judge gave him eight.
Yeah. I know Shakur won, but that seems like
a little bit of favoritism. I'm not going to
lie. Yeah, it does. I wonder where Shakur goes
from here now, though, because he's a free agent.
That could only mean one thing. Well, he can't...
If Tank can stay out of jail... It's gotta be
a Tank fight, I'll tell you, because Tank doesn't
have to fight Roach again, right? If the fight's
off, if the fight's really off, you know, you
can just wait and fight your crew, and then fight
Roach after. You know? Well, isn't Tank fighting
Jake Paul? Yeah, but they're... I don't know.
I would hope that Tank fights Shakur. I really
want to see that fight now. I do think, I keep
flip -flopping, because I would say that Tank
would beat Shakur. Now I think that Shakur has
the ability to beat Tank. You know, like, he
can. Based on what you saw. Based on what I saw,
like, he could fucking beat Tank. Especially
after the Roche try, too. I was like, well, with
what Roche did to him, that's Lamont Roche. Shakur's
a different beast, you know? Shakur's a whole
different animal. I think that if Tank catches
Shakur, possibly Shakur can go down. But we'll
see when that fight happens. If that fight even
happens, which I kind of doubt. But I hope it
happens. It'll be interesting to see who Shakur
goes with promotionally. Because that is going
to determine his possible next fights. Well,
I'll tell you this. He's not going to top rank.
He's not going to Queensberry. I doubt he's going
to go to Golden Boy. Why not top rank? He was
already with them. Oh, okay. So I feel like he's
just going to stay with Eddie. I don't think
that he's going to go to PBC. If he does, he'll
do like a one fight deal. Because I don't think
the PBC has a lot of fighters at 135. I think
the only one is really Tank, huh? I think you're
right. That would be like a one fight deal. Unless
he goes up and wait, of course. But that's a
different story. But yeah, that's... I wonder
what Shakur's going to do next. He's probably
going to fight next year. I don't think he's
going to fight again this year. He's already
fought twice. They've already got the ring cards
assembled for the end of the year. I don't know.
Yeah, that would be a good fight. Good little
unification. I mean, I personally would like
to see him versus Keyshawn, too, but... Oh, yeah,
they're not going to do that. Yeah, that's not
going to happen. That's never going to happen.
The thing is that I also wanted to see Keyshawn
versus Tank, and then Raven versus Shakur. You
know? Then have the Undisputed fight. Would be
nice. Well, I mean, there's also one other guy
that I think... It's probably the most likely
option for sure. Of Dula Mason? Okay. You just
rained on my parade. Nah, who do you think I
was talking about? Who do you think I was talking
about? That was who I thought you were talking
about. Yeah, Sam Noakes. Yeah, of course. Sam
Noakes. Dalton Smith. All these Brit bums. No,
I'm talking about my boy Floyd Schofield. Oh.
That, I think, is a good fight for... Well, I
think it's an exciting fight. I don't know about
it's a good fight to go for this point in the
career. But, you know, that's still an exciting
fight I would love to watch. How about Andy Cruz?
No, no. It's his mandatory. I would not want
to watch Andy Cruz fight, I'll tell you that
right now. Andy Cruz is one... For Murataya,
one for Shakur and two for Tank. Rankings -wise.
I'll tell you, this is going to be a lot easier
to fight Shakur than fight Murataya. Promotional
-wise. Yeah. Because I doubt that the top rank
is going to want to let Andy Cruz beat Murataya,
which, yeah, they're a guy, you know. And I think
it's easier for Eddie to get a fight in -house,
you know? So, what did you think about Shakur
saying he's not going to fight like that again?
That he took too much damage? When did he say
this? Post -fight interview. No shit. Yeah. I
mean, I know he can fight like this. But the
thing is, it really depends on the fighter he's
fighting against, you know? Yeah. I always knew
he could fight like this, but I always knew he
chose not to. And then after this exciting fight
that everybody loved and is talking about, he
basically said, you'll never see it again. That's
unfortunate, honestly, because I think he needs
this type of fight to become popular, or stay
popular, or grow his fan base, you know? Absolutely.
I agree. That's why Tank's a well -known name
is because he gets knockouts. He's exciting somewhat,
you know? But, I don't know. I would love to
see Shakur Tank. I think right now is the perfect
time to make it before they fight anybody else.
Yeah, I think everybody wants that one. Like,
I think that's a pretty highly demanded fight
all around. But I also don't think it happens
just because it's boxing. Yeah, Tank won't take
that. Maxie Hughes is on his top five mandatories.
Pretty crazy. And he's the silver champion. That's
just mean. Mean to Maxie? Yeah. He would look
so stupid. They would be pretty sad. Anything
more for this one? Nah. Okay. Time for me to
take my lashings. Serving up. Getting myself
a nice healthy portion size of humble pie. A
nice big slice. Hamza Shiraz knocks out Edgar
Berlenga in five. Fucking Ber... I, uh, how did
I, I, the, my exasperated expression, as I said,
I fucking knew, I knew not to, not to believe
in Berlinga. I knew it. Just everything in my
fucking body and brain was saying, don't, don't
do it. Do not, do not support him. He's a fucking
idiot. And you're going, it's just going to go
badly for you. But you did it anyways. But I
did it anyways. What do you know? Hamza Shiraz
knocks his ass the fuck out. Shiraz looks so
big. Yeah. Everybody was saying that Berlanga
was going to be the bigger guy and a weight bully
and everything. And Shiraz looked way bigger
than him in the ring. It was crazy. The face
-offs at the media press conferences, just seeing
the photos. The height difference was really
stark. But not even just height. Like, he was
just bigger. Bigger frame. Yeah. I don't know
how that man was cutting down to whatever, 160.
Yeah. 154. Crazy. I ate my words for this fight.
Yep. I'll tell you. I was very sad after. As
much as I fucking hate Berlanga. I did not want
to see Hamza win. And now we see in the Discord
and people online that people are now saying
Hamza deserves a canola fight. Even my own dad's
saying that. Every day for the past couple days,
my dad isn't telling me. And every day, I keep
thinking, yeah, he's rubbing it in. He hated
Berlanga. He hated Berlanga. Well, he hates Berlanga.
It was funny. Mid -fight, right before Berlanga
got the knockdown, he's like, this is going to
go to the decision. Watch. And then he got the
knockdown. And then he got the knockdown. He's
like, oh! Oh! My dad's been rubbing my face every
fucking day now. Excellent. That's basically
what I'm dealing with now. I got to live with
it. I talk too much shit. Lynn's happy. Didn't
have to pay me any turns of taking. That's true.
Yeah, I had to eat my own words. So, I've been
humbled. But it's also sad to see that Hamid
Shiraz is probably going to get a shot at Canelo.
I think he does deserve it, though. I did not
think he deserved it. I'm surprised. Just as
much as Berlanga did. More than Skull does. Berlanga
didn't, but the problem is that they never deserved
it. None of those guys deserved it. Yeah, I'm
just saying that Shiraz isn't going to get the
Canelo payday anyways because Canelo's going
to duck him. No, no, he's not. He's going to
be forced to fight him. I don't know. Canelo
signed with Riyadh. Yeah. And the problem is
that with Berlanga, how is he going to fight
Berlanga and then get a shot at Unzbuter with
someone like Christian Billy? who's been working
his way up legitimately for the past couple years
and is now the interim champion, has been curved,
you know? Ridiculous. Even someone like Diego
Pacheco deserves more. Diego Pacheco's young,
but he deserves way more than Shiraz. In my opinion.
All these guys do. I'd say they're about the
same level of deserving. Yeah, I would not be
mad at Pacheco either. Well, I think it's just
because they built their way up to become an
interim title holder. Instead of fighting someone
like Berlanga and knowing your connections, you
know? It's boxing, though, but come on. I'm looking
at the rankings to see... How the fuck is Bektamir
number one in the WBA? Well, he fought in Final
Eliminator. Against Darius Fulgham? And he didn't
look very good. That's your final eliminator?
Darius fucking Fulgham? I still want to see Osli's
fight. Someone up there, but we'll see. I doubt
that'll ever happen anywhere in the near future,
but we'll see. He's number three in the IBF.
So that's... So maybe you'll get to see it. How
is Jermall Charlo number one in the WBC, too?
That's ridiculous as well. I don't get that either.
I really don't. Honestly, no. Honestly, I think
Hamza probably deserves it more than Charlo.
If there's one person I would say, it's probably
he deserves it more than Charlo. You think they
want to do the storyline of Canelo fighting both
Charlo brothers? He's going to beat Jermall Charlo.
I don't think there's even a question. Of course
he's going to. As much as I hate that Hamza fight,
dude, it would probably be Canelo's hardest fight.
In quite a while. Yeah, in quite a while. Just
because how tall he is, how strong he punches.
So I can kind of see why. But it sucks because
I already know the result of that fight. It's
a kangaroo court type of fight. I just wanted
Turkey to take an L. Yeah. That was it. That
would've been funny. He'd belong to win the King
of New York, but he's now the Jester of New York.
The King has fallen. Yeah. By the British. Ugh.
Gross. Gross. All right. Anything more for this?
For the ring? No. I don't think so. As much as
I hate to say it, it was a fire card. It was
a good card. It was amazing. It was absolutely
a good card. In my opinion, it's probably the
best card that Turkey's ever assembled. Oh, 100
% the best he's ever assembled. Right now, what
are the other options? Fucking Eubank Ben was
not a good card. It just happened to have a good
fight. fight and a half on it uh music theory
one times square fucking worst card in history
followed by the worst fight in fucking canelo
history i will say turkey has been making improvements
every every iteration of his fight cards. I think
this Ring 3 card was for sure the best just because
of the atmosphere too. And the fights they all
delivered. Well they finally had a fight in someone's
hometown where people cared. Yeah. It was fun.
It's good stuff. I liked it. Unfortunately. Alright.
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bleak weekend. Bleak end? That's okay. I'm too
busy this weekend to watch boxing anyways. Saturday,
July 26th. We've got two cards. I'll start with
Salida on the zone at the Little Caesars Arena
in Detroit. There's only two fights on here that
I really care about. Tony Harrison is back versus
Edward Diaz. So that should be fun. I don't know
who that is. If you saw him and checked out his
record a bit, I'm sure you'd remember. Clarissa
Shields versus Lonnie Daniels. Clarissa Shields,
the undisputed heavyweight champion versus Lonnie
Daniels, the undisputed light heavyweight champion.
Could be good. What's interesting is that between
some of the divisions, heavyweight is light heavyweight.
They skip. They go middle, super middle, and
then heavyweight. Some of them do. It's a weird
situation, but still should be a good time. Good
-ish versus Shields. Yeah, I suspect Clarissa
Schiltz will just win. As usual. And top rank
on ESPN at the Madison Square Garden Theater.
Let's go from the bottom up. I'm just going to
cherry pick. Juanma Lopez. This is Juanmita.
He's the son of that. Juanma versus Jorge Gonzalez
Sanchez. Emiliano Vargas versus Alexander Espinoza.
That should be fun. Steven Navarro. I see him
on these cards a lot. I should probably actually
watch him one of these times. He's fine. Oh.
You know who else is just... fine. Bakudir Jalalov
versus John Parker. He's just fine. He's a weird
looking dude, Jalalov. So, anything getting you
excited as I go up the card? No, not really.
Saul doesn't watch the undercards. Wait, wait,
wait. I watch the undercards of Top Rank, yeah.
I just don't think it's that exciting. Fair enough.
Rohan Polanco versus Quinton Randall. Polanco
should be an exciting knockout just because that's
how they're building him right now. Bruce Carrington
versus Mateus Hayta. Harrington is so fucking
boring. Yeah. That's actually like a Shakur.
Like even worse though. Because he's not that
good. Oh yeah. What I mean is he's actually like
what people were saying Shakur was. I don't think
he's that bad. I don't know. I don't like watching
him. I usually skip his fights. This is not a
great card either. There's a lot of names I recognize,
but they're all pretty mid. Yeah, something like
that. You know who they are, it's just you don't
really care for... I don't have a strong opinion.
Me neither. It was fine, guys. Stay busy. Interim
WBC title on the line there. And the vacant WBO
super welterweight title. That's 154. Xander
Zayas versus Jorge Perez. Where did you last
see Jorge when he beat Charles Conwell? Oh, yeah.
So that's fun. I think Perez is going to take
it. You think so? Yeah, I think Perez probably
would beat Zayas. I think Zayas is... He's okay,
but I don't think he's going to beat Perez. If
it goes to the decision, though, I'll give it
to Zayas, for sure. Oh, of course. He's in New
York. He's Puerto Rican. Mexico versus Puerto
Rico. Yeah. It'll be a good fight, though. It'll
be fun. I'll say. I assume Zayas is going to
win this one. Yeah. I'm going to be going for
Perez, though. Oh, I'm cheering for Perez, but...
I'm expecting Zayas to win. Yeah. Pick league,
I will be picking Zayas, I think, by decision.
Maybe we'll see Zayas find that new gear that
finally starts impressing people. Maybe. I would
not bet money on that. I think Perez could push
him to do it. If he has the gear, Perez can do
it, can push him to it. That's fair. I do want
to see that happen because, honestly, they can
make a fight with Virgil. I would love that.
Virgil versus Zayas? No, Virgil versus Perez.
Oh, I was about to say, like, do you want Zayas
to die? No, no. Well, honestly, I mean... Maybe.
If Zayas wins, they're going to give Virgil that
shot. I'll tell you this right now. Oh, of course.
You know top rank how they are. Top rank protection
system. They're going to protect the fighter
until they're absolutely sure they can win the
fight. Or it gives them enough money to where
they say, fuck the fighter, let's get that money,
man. Yeah. That's how Top Rank is. Top Rank does
put on some pretty good cards every once in a
while, though. When they decide to risk their
guys, they do it for something good. Keyshawn's
original card, that card originally was going
to be good. Yeah. Until... Jared Anderson versus
Martin Bacoli. Did they sacrifice him for something
good there? Bacoli's... Of all the things you're
going to gamble your fucking future on, it's
going to be him? I don't think anybody expected...
Jared Anderson to lose that one, though. I don't
think they thought it was a gamble. This must
be like the guy that was sitting next to me at
the event. He's like, Anderson's going to school.
This guy went to go get a beer. I'm like, I don't
know about that, buddy. Oh, no, I won money on
that fight. I knew Anderson wasn't that good,
but I think Top Rank thought he was. All right.
Anything more for Top Rank at the MSG Theater?
Nope. Let's go praise. All right. Really quick.
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a pretty bleak weekend. Shanada, you're doing
something this weekend. I am. I'm very excited.
I'm going to the Ryzen Summerfest in the Saitama
Super Arena. I'm super excited. I want to see
the arena, which is a very nerdy thing to say,
but I've seen it on TV so many times. I want
to see the inside of the arena. And I think Ryzen
just is probably a completely different atmosphere
than the boxing. I'm expecting many less businessmen
with escorts and many more drunken hooligans.
So I'm hoping to make friends. I've been practicing
my Japanese to try and talk to people beside
me. Asking who's fighting. Yeah, yeah. I think
I talked about it a couple weeks ago, but I have
started memorizing possible answers. That's good.
Because I had memorized all the questions, Saul,
and then totally forgot that I need to understand
what they tell me after the question. So. Yeah,
no, I'm super stoked for it. Yeah, this is a
good weekend for it to fall on. You're not going
to be missing a whole lot. Yeah, I'm not missing
much for boxing, and it's like fucking 12 hours.
It's so long. 12 is an exaggeration, but it starts
at 1 in the afternoon, and I expect it to go
until like 10. The Ryzen event? Yeah. Oh, hell
yeah. Like, so many fights. Marathon events.
Yeah. I might actually end up having to spend
the night in Tokyo. I think I'll get out of Saitama,
but I don't know if I'll make it out of Tokyo
before the trains end. There's worse things.
I can spend a night in Tokyo. Saul, you doing
anything fun? Or are you watching the boxing
with me? I'm watching the boxing with you. That's
what I'm doing. I'm probably going to play Quip
Lash. Oh, that's right. We've got Quiplash. That's
part of the fucking Discord fun. Yeah, we haven't
played for a little while. We should do that
this weekend. Yeah, let's do that. I'll have
to get the game just in case somebody else, someone
who does have it, it doesn't show up. It's all
good. I can do that. I've said a few times I
don't mind buying that one. We can fight over
who spends money. Shit. Parting words. What do
I got? Discord is fun. There's boxing talk if
you're into MMA also. There's MMA spaces. Fucking
food. Your pets. Video games. Book club. All
kinds of shit, man. This is more than just fights.
On Fight Night, please make no mistake. We're
talking about the fights. Throughout the rest
of the week, we're having a good time. All right.
Well, that's it for this edition of the Boxing
B -Sides. See you on the other side.