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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Alright. Fucking let's do this. Boxing B -sides

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back up in your ears. Woof. What a weekend. We're

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not talking about it this time. Stay tuned and

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we'll get you all caught up. The homies have

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assembled. Joined by the one and only Saul. How

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you doing, bud? Doing great. How about you? Fucking

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miffed about the weekend. I don't know why yet

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because I can't tell anybody. I can't tell you

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why. I'm very angry slash happy. Hedging all

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the bets. All the bets. And Shanada joining us

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once again. Yeah. Everybody has to listen to

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me like twice this week. Sucks to be them. Yeah,

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we might be getting a... A new voice on Before

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Dark. I'm excited. I hope it works out. Yeah,

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I think it will. Who's the... Are you allowed

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to say who's the new voice? Australian Jacob.

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Terramoana Jab. Terramoana? Yeah. Pretty good,

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huh? Yeah, the time zones just work out a lot

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better than England. Because me and him are almost

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the same time. And then Leo just has to... adapt

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for us it's fine um there was also some mma but

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you'll have to check out ultimate effing casuals

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if you want to hear more about that just because

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oh speaking of the discord and mma um uh is it

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zoe i think it's zoe me and zoe have started

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watching the friday night fights from one fc

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and being active in the chat It's pretty fun.

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Oh, man. Finally. I talk about them all the time.

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I'm waiting for people to kick us into the MMA

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thread or room or whatever the fuck they're called

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in Discord, but they haven't done it yet, so

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we'll see. Well, if you're Night Crew, then...

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Yeah, there's less rules, Night Crew. It's mostly

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Zo and me and Vom. so Vom doesn't care. Yeah.

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I thought you were going to bring up Connor versus

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the Muckalai. Oh, yeah, the picture. Connor McWheener.

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Oh, man. I have not seen the unedited picture,

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and I don't want to. I haven't either. I've seen

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it. I'm getting the sense, just because a follow

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-up that people have been posting is tying a

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weight to a string. And attaching that to your

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piece. And that's what people are saying after

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they see McGregor's piece. That he does that

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for fun? To extend it, I think? Ridiculous. Honestly,

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I don't even know why they put it in the picture,

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Doug. Did they just show off, I think? We should

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have a new boxing show. Talk about fighters.

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Wing wings. Yep. There's a surprising amount

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of them that you can see if you want to. Yep.

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Boxers are dirty, dirty motherfuckers, I'll tell

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you. Some of them are just some dirty, dirty

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motherfuckers. Nasty. No, I mean, if you're in

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Discord, do you see Roy's on a daily basis? Oh,

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yeah. If you want to know what we mean by seeing

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Roy on a daily basis, you're going to have to

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join Discord. RoyBonesJr. Slash Discord. All

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right. Let's get into a little bit of women's

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boxing. Because on July 11th, Netflix, most valuable

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promotions, fucking Jake Paul does it again.

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Delivers another fucking scorcher. This was a

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surprisingly good card. Yeah. A lot of decisions.

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I mean, what do you... It's a women's card. It's

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women's balking. You're going to get that. But

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still, it was a good card. Let's just go from

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the bottom up. I don't... Tam Tibble, I think

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it is. Stops Mary. Casamassa in the fifth. Ramla

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Ali, UD over Lila Furtado. This was a bit of

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a robbery. Was it? Wasn't it? Am I mixing them

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up? Ali did not win that fight. Even she was

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surprised. Is she related to the world famous?

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Maybe that's why they dropped somebody. Ramla

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Ali does have a really good backstory. I think

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that's why they push her so hard. She's a refugee

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and stuff. Yeah. Yeah, I remember who you're

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talking about now. Yeah. Just went completely

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blank on her for a second. But, like, back me

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up. That was a robbery. Like, a pretty clear

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robbery. Ramla leaves the house. I probably got

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the nod from, like, before the card started.

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Like, hey, this is our girl, so... Yeah, I'm

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sure that's what happened. But, like... She's

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not that good, and they're really, really pushing

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her because they're gonna make a movie at some

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point. Like, refugee girl gets into boxing after

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moving to the UK. Yada, yada, yada. From Mogadishu.

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Yeah. She made some borderline racist comment

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about how even the Mexican judges saw that she

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won, except, like, I'm pretty sure... for tato's

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brazilian so like anyway yeah she's brazilian

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yeah um interim wbc super lightweight title chantelle

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cameron pulls it off over jessica camara fun

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uh sure real quick yeah go ahead yeah i didn't

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watch this card Okay. It's all right. I tried

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washing it too. I turned it off. That's all right.

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We'll bring you back in for the ring three. Yeah.

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Sharnika Johnson, Neeks, stops Sharetta Metcalf

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in the ninth. I believe this was a undisputed

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unification. This was the final fight to make

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the four -piece crown. Yeah. This was a pretty

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good fight, though. Or I thought it was pretty

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good. I missed Sharnika. She was one of the main

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ones on the undercard I wanted to see. Is this

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an upset? Shadesha Green over Savannah Marshall.

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Yes, it is. And I'm the only one who picked her

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in the pick lead. I picked Savannah Marshall.

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Everybody. Why did you pick different? Because

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I don't think Savannah Marshall's that good,

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to be honest. Unless you're British, most people's

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exposure to her is just the Clarissa Shields

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fight, I would expect. Yeah, I think I've seen

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a few of her fights. I watch a lot of those British

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cards, but I just... Shadeza Green's got more

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power. Yeah. I thought she was going to hurt

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her, and... I think that's what happened. She

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hurt her and then Savannah Marshall's output

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went down. Alicia Baumgartner turns in a performance.

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One of the performances of her entire career.

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Not that good of one. Yeah, against Jennifer

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Miranda. Undisputed Super Featherweight title

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was on the line. Or championship was on the line.

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Fucking... You got to keep your stuff. Congratulations.

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Would not recommend this fight. I actually thought

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this one was going to be fun and it was not.

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I expected it would have been just because Baumgartner

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is like that. Yeah. Three belt unification at

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super bantamweight. Ellie Scottney beats Yamileth

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Mercado. I didn't see this one. It was alright.

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It was what you expect from women's boxing. Yeah.

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Not to be that person, but not that exciting.

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You know what else wasn't that exciting? Very

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surprisingly, Katie Taylor versus Amanda Serrano.

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Katie Taylor wins once again. This was a lot

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more convincing. I'm surprised. that this was

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a majority decision. I don't know how you could

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score to draw, personally. I think they really

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wanted Amanda Serrano to win this one. Like,

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they. The boxing they. Yeah. MVP? Probably. If

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nobody else. I'm already hearing rumors about

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a fourth. Nobody wants that. This is done. Both

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of them said in their post -fight interviews

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that they didn't want to. Yeah, I just mean,

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like, the internet has... That's dumb. Taylor

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won all of them. Like, just... Whether you think

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she's not that good or not, she won. So, deal

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with it. Is she in any current fighter? Yeah,

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I'm pretty sure Katie Taylor is. Yeah. Anything

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more for Ladies' Night? I said before, and I

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stand by it, I don't like the all -women's cards.

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Yeah, people are going to watch for the rest

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of the year. Yeah, there's that. And it's just

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way better if you mix them. Like, even it...

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A lot of women's fights are not that exciting.

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And when you try and fill a whole card, you end

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up with a lot of not very exciting fights. Just...

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But... I mean, that happens on men's cards, too.

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It's not just women's cards. But it's better

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if it's mixed, I think. Yeah, I agree. Let's

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skip the Ring 3 really quick to talk about Pro

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Box at the Safe Martirina in Fresno. A bunch

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of stuff happened. I picked it up here. Carlos

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Balderas. Gets the stoppage. Fucking last second

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over Salvador Brisseno. Fucking Lux Media favorite

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Katsuma Akitsugi. UD over Jonas Sultan. Jonas

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was tough. Yeah. But I think it was very clearly

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Akitsugi took over about round six, maybe. Yeah,

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I was going to say like four or five. But yeah,

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regardless. Yeah. Akitsugi continues to look

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good. They're not all going to be stoppages.

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Well, those two stoppages on Pro Box before are

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the only two knockouts of his entire career.

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That's right. One of my personal favorites, Senbatar

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Erdenabat. It's a UD over Humberto Galindo. Erdenabat.

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I think that the height reach was bothering him

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a bit. It took him a little bit of time to figure

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it out. I think this is not the most exciting

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performance or the most flashy, but he got the

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job done. He'll be better for the experience,

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I'll say, having the faith in Zemmatar. I walked

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away from my screen for Eric Badillo versus Gerardo

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Zapata. Did you watch this? No, I actually haven't

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got the last two fights yet. I didn't know I

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was going to be on the podcast today. Ah, well.

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I was going to watch them in time for our podcast.

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Yeah. Francisco Verón versus Vladimir Hernandez.

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Vladimir... Day late, dollar short. pretty much

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every step of the way from the beginning. It

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was unfortunate because I like Vlad, but... Just

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an overall schooling? Yeah, I would say that

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would be the category to put it in. I wouldn't

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call it one of the schoolings of the year yet,

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but it's a good one. But, once again, Probox

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delivers. Absolutely. When I saw this card, it

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was all pretty fun. Yeah. Balderas. I was really

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happy to see him get a stoppage. Alright. On

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to ring three at the Louis Armstrong Stadium

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in Queens, New York. Fucking bottom up. Here

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we go. Reito Tsutsumi stops Michael Ruiz in the

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second. This is the house fighter. From his debut

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to now, he's signed to the ring, I guess, as

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the promotional entity that it is now. I missed

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this one. I didn't wake up early enough. It was

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pretty good. Got him out. I do think Rayito's

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the better of the two brothers, for sure. Hayato's

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kind of mid, in my opinion, to be honest. I only

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know his name because you know his name. Yeah.

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He often fights on the Ioka cards. Almost always.

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David Morel. Split decision? Question mark? over

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Imam Khatiaf. Honestly, I'm still thinking about

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it, honestly. Because as much as I would like

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to say that Morel deserved it, he did not. I

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believe that Imam Khatiaf won the fight. It was

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a pretty close fight, first of all. So I wouldn't

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say it's a robbery. per se too close to fight

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two color robbery however i believe they did

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favor morel just because i mean it's morel there's

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an unknown unknown russian guy but i did a mom

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kate gave david morel the hardest fight in his

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career craze crazy to say that but yeah when

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he's coming he's coming off of benavidez he's

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coming off of benavidez he did he knocked him

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down so we better be just gonna do So the thing

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is that I don't want to say that Morel didn't

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take the fight seriously because I believe he

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did. But I don't think he took this fight as

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seriously as the David Benavidez fight. I see

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what you mean. He was doing some dumb things

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in there. That's how he got knocked down, being

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a fucking idiot. Yeah, he was being a dumb motherfucker

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and got knocked out. Or got knocked down. And

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I don't know how... Imam Khatia really lost.

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I think it was 115 -113. Right? It's a 10 -rounder,

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so 95 -94 for him. Yeah, so 95 -94, which I don't

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know. It just don't sound right to me. That would

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be a draw, except for the knockdown. Yeah. The

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95 -94s are... but that 96 -93 with the knockdown,

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that judge only gave Katya three rounds. That's

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a madness scorecard in my opinion. I think at

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most it should have been a draw. It should have

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been a draw. It can't be a draw because there

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was a knockdown. It would be very hard to make

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it a draw. That would be pretty tough. Well,

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they could have found a way because honestly,

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it deserved a good draw because Emerald did not

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deserve that one. That win, in my opinion. I'm

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kind of glad he won. But at the same time, I'm

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not. Because, I mean, I really do think that

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Imam Khatia should have won. Yeah, I think they

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should do it again. I'd watch it again. It was

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a fun fight. It was a fun fight, but I also think

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that David Morel, all the fighters, we'll get

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to this right now. I'll talk about it at the

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end. I think all the fighters were also encouraged

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to not, quote -unquote, do the Tom and Jerry

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running. You know? I don't think these two would

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have anyways, would they? I think David Murrell

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should have boxed better. The thing is that David

00:18:49.950 --> 00:18:52.390
Murrell was doing really good on the inside,

00:18:52.589 --> 00:18:57.369
but I think he found his kind of neat, what's

00:18:57.369 --> 00:18:59.890
the word, kind of on the game plan a little too

00:18:59.890 --> 00:19:01.950
late because at the end he was rope -a -doping.

00:19:02.569 --> 00:19:04.490
He was sitting on the ropes and then would counter.

00:19:05.790 --> 00:19:07.930
and I think he did a pretty good job doing that

00:19:07.930 --> 00:19:09.490
to the point where I think if it went two more

00:19:09.490 --> 00:19:13.730
rounds, he could have knocked him out. But it's

00:19:13.730 --> 00:19:15.410
a shame that this was a 10 -rounder, you know?

00:19:15.849 --> 00:19:18.369
Yeah. I think it deserved two more rounds, for

00:19:18.369 --> 00:19:22.170
sure. But we'll never know how it goes again,

00:19:22.309 --> 00:19:24.589
because I doubt that Muriel's going to do a rematch

00:19:24.589 --> 00:19:27.529
with this guy. They're not going to take it.

00:19:27.569 --> 00:19:30.589
It was too hard to fight. Yeah. High risk, low

00:19:30.589 --> 00:19:37.849
reward. I think... Katya's stock went up with

00:19:37.849 --> 00:19:39.849
this one, though. I'm pretty sure. Dramatically.

00:19:40.190 --> 00:19:45.529
And I know that on the last podcast, it was me

00:19:45.529 --> 00:19:49.670
and Isaac and Leo. I don't know. Which one of

00:19:49.670 --> 00:19:51.769
you guys said it was going to be an easier fight?

00:19:52.869 --> 00:19:56.990
I did. I know. Were you surprised? Were you surprised

00:19:56.990 --> 00:19:59.589
when you saw it? Yes. I thought this was supposed

00:19:59.589 --> 00:20:02.750
to be a get back for David Morrell. Like, you

00:20:02.750 --> 00:20:08.369
had the... A tough fight with Benavidez. You

00:20:08.369 --> 00:20:11.630
want to get back in the win column, and you want

00:20:11.630 --> 00:20:16.150
to have something emphatic to kind of reestablish

00:20:16.150 --> 00:20:19.930
your confidence in yourself. So that's what I

00:20:19.930 --> 00:20:22.089
thought Imam Katsaev was, was a guy who's tough.

00:20:22.230 --> 00:20:25.990
He looks tough on paper, but who really is this

00:20:25.990 --> 00:20:28.569
guy anyway? He's never fought outside of fucking

00:20:28.569 --> 00:20:34.440
Russia or Serbia. I wasn't expecting much, but

00:20:34.440 --> 00:20:37.640
I'm very pleasantly surprised. I didn't want

00:20:37.640 --> 00:20:41.119
to see him again. I'd like to. He's been fighting

00:20:41.119 --> 00:20:44.019
out of Canada. He must be associated with, uh,

00:20:44.180 --> 00:20:48.059
what's his name? Who's the right? Arthur better

00:20:48.059 --> 00:20:53.900
be a eye of the butthole. Well, I mean, he's

00:20:53.900 --> 00:20:56.480
been fighting in Montreal and Quebec and he's

00:20:56.480 --> 00:21:00.019
Russian. So I assume he has some sort of connection.

00:21:03.720 --> 00:21:10.460
Trying to remember the name of the dude. Is it

00:21:10.460 --> 00:21:14.680
not? Oh, yeah. I don't know the trainer's names

00:21:14.680 --> 00:21:18.160
and stuff. But, like, it is Arthur Beterbiev,

00:21:18.180 --> 00:21:21.720
right? That's in Canada now? Yeah. I assume they

00:21:21.720 --> 00:21:27.299
have some sort of connection. Because why else

00:21:27.299 --> 00:21:30.700
would Russians go boxing Montreal? Of all places.

00:21:31.319 --> 00:21:39.130
Yeah. Yeah. Anything more for this one? Nope.

00:21:39.190 --> 00:21:42.329
All right. Subrio Matias. Majority decision over

00:21:42.329 --> 00:21:49.509
Alberto Puello. Loses his WBC title. Subrio Matias

00:21:49.509 --> 00:21:52.890
is a champion once again. This was a bit controversial.

00:21:53.549 --> 00:21:56.650
Yeah, I was going to say. This was like a game

00:21:56.650 --> 00:22:02.670
of two halves, right? Where Matias... How did

00:22:02.670 --> 00:22:08.089
you see it playing out? You know, I believe that

00:22:08.089 --> 00:22:12.289
I do think that Matias did deserve the win. It

00:22:12.289 --> 00:22:16.509
was also a very close, hard -fought fight. But

00:22:16.509 --> 00:22:19.589
the thing is that, and you're right, that the

00:22:19.589 --> 00:22:23.150
first half that Matias dominated, he dominated

00:22:23.150 --> 00:22:26.069
pretty hard. I would say starting round eight

00:22:26.069 --> 00:22:27.549
is when he started slowing down considerably.

00:22:28.589 --> 00:22:31.329
And so all those rounds, I think, went to play

00:22:31.329 --> 00:22:35.000
after about round eight. I don't know. It's just...

00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:38.259
This was a very good fight, by the way. Not to

00:22:38.259 --> 00:22:42.160
mention, this was a very fun fight. Except it's

00:22:42.160 --> 00:22:45.980
just... I don't know. I don't think it's a robbery.

00:22:46.200 --> 00:22:50.140
I think Matias did deserve the win. But that's

00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:54.019
my opinion. In the beginning, too. Yeah. While

00:22:54.019 --> 00:22:55.880
they were still kind of figuring each other out.

00:22:56.880 --> 00:22:58.700
Matias did have more success, though. You're

00:22:58.700 --> 00:23:03.769
right. It's not so one -sided. Like... front

00:23:03.769 --> 00:23:08.369
and back on the scorecards like I kind of thought

00:23:08.369 --> 00:23:13.069
it was too it it was rounds three to seven that

00:23:13.069 --> 00:23:17.029
Matias really won a lot of people gave one to

00:23:17.029 --> 00:23:22.230
um Pueo yeah me too but Matias won round 10 on

00:23:22.230 --> 00:23:24.890
every scorecard and I think that made a big difference

00:23:24.890 --> 00:23:27.710
and he won round nine on the two scorecards he

00:23:27.710 --> 00:23:30.509
won so it was actually round nines and ten that

00:23:30.509 --> 00:23:35.279
won him the fight The thing with Matias, I would

00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:37.859
say, is that he implemented his game very well.

00:23:38.160 --> 00:23:41.440
And honestly, I'm kind of happy that his stock

00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.079
went back up. Because, I mean, Matias is not

00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.000
a boring fighter. He always brings the fight,

00:23:45.200 --> 00:23:49.400
you know? I like Matias. He's fun. Whereas Puello,

00:23:49.480 --> 00:23:52.500
I mean, I think Puello's an exciting fighter

00:23:52.500 --> 00:23:56.700
to an extent. However, I think, I don't like

00:23:56.700 --> 00:23:59.819
that he lost the last fight, in my opinion. And

00:23:59.819 --> 00:24:03.690
that he got a decision. They robbed my boy Sandor

00:24:03.690 --> 00:24:07.890
again. Yeah. They keep giving him decisions.

00:24:08.150 --> 00:24:11.130
Pueo, you know. I don't know. I'm kind of happy

00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:14.069
that... And this is not to Pueo because Pueo

00:24:14.069 --> 00:24:17.049
is a boss. He deserves respect. But it's more

00:24:17.049 --> 00:24:19.529
so like the promotional company that they just

00:24:19.529 --> 00:24:24.410
kept doing bullshit, you know, robberies. You

00:24:24.410 --> 00:24:27.329
know, allegedly. Close decisions always going

00:24:27.329 --> 00:24:34.099
to Pueo. Yeah. And so I'm kind of glad that it's

00:24:34.099 --> 00:24:36.900
in a different hands. Honestly, I would love

00:24:36.900 --> 00:24:41.740
to see Mateus fight someone else besides Donald

00:24:41.740 --> 00:24:45.680
Smith. Oh, God, they had it there. I forgot about

00:24:45.680 --> 00:24:51.940
that. Oh, yeah, I did too. That's... Dude, nobody

00:24:51.940 --> 00:24:55.640
wants to see that shit. Nobody wants to see that.

00:24:56.440 --> 00:25:00.150
I don't think it mattered who won. No, it didn't.

00:25:00.190 --> 00:25:02.529
Dalton Smith was getting the winner of this fight.

00:25:05.029 --> 00:25:11.470
I kind of hope Matias, like, KOs him early. I

00:25:11.470 --> 00:25:15.829
will say that I think that the whole debacle

00:25:15.829 --> 00:25:18.849
with Dalton Smith is just pretty funny to see

00:25:18.849 --> 00:25:21.250
live because I don't know exactly how it went,

00:25:21.309 --> 00:25:23.049
but wasn't Matias saying, like, no, I don't want

00:25:23.049 --> 00:25:24.809
to fight? And then Turkey was like, yes, you

00:25:24.809 --> 00:25:28.140
will fight my brother. Something like that, yeah.

00:25:28.559 --> 00:25:33.599
I think Matias was just confused. You wouldn't

00:25:33.599 --> 00:25:35.619
fight my brother. You wouldn't fight Dalton Smith.

00:25:37.079 --> 00:25:39.420
That's obviously a favor to Eddie Hearn. That's

00:25:39.420 --> 00:25:44.220
the only way I see it. Or whoever promotes Dalton

00:25:44.220 --> 00:25:45.500
Smith. I'm pretty sure Eddie Hearn promotes Dalton

00:25:45.500 --> 00:25:50.500
Smith, right? I think so. Sounds right. Yeah,

00:25:50.519 --> 00:25:51.960
so I'm pretty sure it's a favor to Eddie Hearn

00:25:51.960 --> 00:25:54.500
that he's fighting Dalton Smith. Is Dalton Smith

00:25:54.500 --> 00:25:58.349
really the number one? Contender? It don't seem

00:25:58.349 --> 00:26:03.230
like it. For the WBC belt? Yeah, for the WBC.

00:26:04.009 --> 00:26:06.930
Dalton Smith hasn't... If he is, he doesn't deserve

00:26:06.930 --> 00:26:10.450
it. What's his best win? Like in Way Over the

00:26:10.450 --> 00:26:13.890
Hill, Jose Zepeda? Like, who the fuck has he...

00:26:13.890 --> 00:26:18.549
No, but really, like, look at his record. Who

00:26:18.549 --> 00:26:24.859
the hell is Matthew Germain or Wally Uiza? Wally

00:26:24.859 --> 00:26:29.200
Wheeler. Who the hell is he? Sam Maxwell. Billy

00:26:29.200 --> 00:26:36.980
Allington. Tommy Noogie. Like, random nude. Dalton

00:26:36.980 --> 00:26:40.599
Smith is number one. Sandra Martin. Isaac Cruz.

00:26:40.759 --> 00:26:46.240
Arnold Barbosa. Liam Parrow. But the WBC is crazy.

00:26:46.579 --> 00:26:50.190
Yeah. Dalton Smith does not deserve that ranking.

00:26:50.509 --> 00:26:53.930
He has beaten fucking nobody. Literally, the

00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:57.170
only name on his resume I recognize is Jose Zepeda,

00:26:57.309 --> 00:27:01.849
and he fought him in 2024. I love Jose Zepeda,

00:27:01.970 --> 00:27:05.890
but in 2024, he was not good. Another thing,

00:27:05.910 --> 00:27:07.509
too, I think that San Ramon should get another

00:27:07.509 --> 00:27:10.329
shot at the final eliminator if he is ranked

00:27:10.329 --> 00:27:14.329
number two. I don't think that Dalton Smith really

00:27:14.329 --> 00:27:17.220
became the mandatory, right? He didn't fight

00:27:17.220 --> 00:27:18.539
a final eliminator, right? He didn't fight an

00:27:18.539 --> 00:27:23.559
eliminator. He has the WBC silver. For whatever

00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:25.900
that counts. It's a glorified mandatory challenger

00:27:25.900 --> 00:27:29.779
spot. He beat some fucking weirdo from Quebec.

00:27:30.460 --> 00:27:34.460
Like... This is like some WB... Not WB, like

00:27:34.460 --> 00:27:37.619
IBF shit right here. This is not WBC. I mean,

00:27:37.619 --> 00:27:39.940
that kind of shows you the standing of the division.

00:27:41.000 --> 00:27:44.380
Sander Martin... Fucking outpoints Dalton Smith

00:27:44.380 --> 00:27:48.819
all night, every night, seven days a week. Lin

00:27:48.819 --> 00:27:53.339
in shambles. Lin knows it's true. What happened

00:27:53.339 --> 00:27:54.880
to Gary Antoine Russell in the rankings, dude?

00:27:55.440 --> 00:27:58.920
He has the WBA belt, so he doesn't get put into

00:27:58.920 --> 00:28:02.359
their rankings. But he fought for the WBC, right?

00:28:02.460 --> 00:28:06.880
The WBC. He did, yes. That's what I'm saying.

00:28:07.119 --> 00:28:08.579
Maybe he just stopped paying for it or something,

00:28:08.680 --> 00:28:12.220
dude, but I don't know. I think that... I think

00:28:12.220 --> 00:28:16.180
Matias and Gary Antoine Russell should do a unification

00:28:16.180 --> 00:28:19.880
bout. That would be a really fun fight. I think

00:28:19.880 --> 00:28:24.640
Matias loses that one. Yeah, I don't know. I

00:28:24.640 --> 00:28:27.079
don't know, because... I mean, Gary Antoine Russell

00:28:27.079 --> 00:28:33.180
is a hard fighter to fight against, but... Matias

00:28:33.180 --> 00:28:36.720
always has a puncher's chance, for sure. That,

00:28:36.740 --> 00:28:39.599
but Matias always comes forward, dude. He doesn't

00:28:39.599 --> 00:28:43.319
go back. Ryo went back. Boyle went back. You

00:28:43.319 --> 00:28:45.420
know, all these other guys that fought GAR went

00:28:45.420 --> 00:28:49.059
back. But Matias, I know for sure, will not fight

00:28:49.059 --> 00:28:50.359
on the back foot because he can't even fight

00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:54.599
on the front foot that well. He can do it okay.

00:28:57.319 --> 00:29:03.420
Anything more for Superhero Matias? I hope he

00:29:03.420 --> 00:29:06.660
gets a better fight than Dalton Smith. I expect

00:29:06.660 --> 00:29:09.359
this will be better than Dalton Smith as well.

00:29:10.730 --> 00:29:14.809
All right, Shakur Stevenson versus William Zepeda.

00:29:17.650 --> 00:29:22.109
Look how they massacred my boy. Is that a good

00:29:22.109 --> 00:29:26.509
meme to put up here? I don't know, man. I think

00:29:26.509 --> 00:29:30.309
Zepeda did better than people expected him to.

00:29:31.190 --> 00:29:34.690
And this is the one where the Tom and Jerry talk

00:29:34.690 --> 00:29:37.569
really changed the fight. Shakur actually decided

00:29:37.569 --> 00:29:40.359
to stand and fucking fight this time. And it

00:29:40.359 --> 00:29:43.740
was exciting. Like, even I have to say. He was

00:29:43.740 --> 00:29:47.240
fucking brilliant in the pocket. Yeah. Why don't

00:29:47.240 --> 00:29:50.359
you do that more, dog? Exactly. This just makes

00:29:50.359 --> 00:29:53.440
me, like, pissed off. Like, so you can do this.

00:29:53.480 --> 00:29:57.299
You just don't. You just don't want to. Well,

00:29:57.319 --> 00:30:00.259
the thing is, let me tell you this. I ate my

00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:03.079
words that night. I ate my words all night. Because

00:30:03.079 --> 00:30:06.599
I'll tell you this. I talked about this last

00:30:06.599 --> 00:30:11.500
podcast, too. I know Shakur is... But the thing

00:30:11.500 --> 00:30:19.359
is that I succumb to the noise. I will admit

00:30:19.359 --> 00:30:21.299
that. I succumb to the noise of people saying

00:30:21.299 --> 00:30:24.240
he's a boring fighter. He can still be a boring

00:30:24.240 --> 00:30:26.980
fighter, but that boy can't fight. He has heart.

00:30:27.779 --> 00:30:31.299
He can be scrappy. So from here on out, I'm going

00:30:31.299 --> 00:30:33.160
to stop calling him a boring fighter. Because

00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:35.680
I know he can't be. If he chooses to be a boring

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:36.660
fighter in the future, that's different than

00:30:36.660 --> 00:30:38.460
actually being a boring fighter. You know what

00:30:38.460 --> 00:30:40.500
I mean? Does that make sense? No, I disagree.

00:30:40.740 --> 00:30:42.859
Choosing to be boring still makes you boring.

00:30:44.019 --> 00:30:45.859
Well, I understand that, but he has the ability

00:30:45.859 --> 00:30:47.920
to not be boring, is what I'm saying. I've always

00:30:47.920 --> 00:30:50.400
said he has the ability, he just chooses not

00:30:50.400 --> 00:30:53.839
to. And this proves it. And it makes me angry.

00:30:54.500 --> 00:30:57.559
The thing is that with Zepeda, I will say this,

00:30:57.640 --> 00:31:01.140
that Zepeda, you guys can disagree, I think that

00:31:01.140 --> 00:31:05.400
he rocked Shakur hard in round, I think, four?

00:31:05.779 --> 00:31:09.910
Is that the three or four? Zepeda did. Yeah,

00:31:10.049 --> 00:31:12.509
he hurt him. I know what round you're talking

00:31:12.509 --> 00:31:15.470
about. He rocked Shakur super hard. That got

00:31:15.470 --> 00:31:17.390
him off balance. People say he was off balance.

00:31:17.950 --> 00:31:20.589
I think the punch is what got him off balance.

00:31:20.630 --> 00:31:25.390
It's what rocked him. And I think if someone

00:31:25.390 --> 00:31:28.569
with a lot more power than that, you know, I

00:31:28.569 --> 00:31:30.829
don't know what would happen. I'm like Tank,

00:31:30.970 --> 00:31:32.609
you know, but we'll talk about that in a bit.

00:31:33.329 --> 00:31:36.289
Yeah, because Zepeda's a volume guy. He's not

00:31:36.289 --> 00:31:39.089
really a power guy. I don't think Zepeda hits

00:31:39.089 --> 00:31:43.569
super hard. No, no, no. He never stops throwing.

00:31:44.730 --> 00:31:48.329
Oh, yeah. Zepeda did a lot better in my eyes

00:31:48.329 --> 00:31:52.069
than even what I was thinking, but I think that

00:31:52.069 --> 00:31:55.970
Zepeda's stock kind of went up a little bit,

00:31:56.029 --> 00:31:58.950
if that makes any sense, because, I mean, yeah,

00:31:58.990 --> 00:32:02.619
he didn't do the best. Obviously, he... Did it

00:32:02.619 --> 00:32:04.099
beat Shakur, but you know what? He gave Shakur

00:32:04.099 --> 00:32:07.059
his hardest fight. You know? So they can still

00:32:07.059 --> 00:32:09.859
use him for other future fights. You know, it

00:32:09.859 --> 00:32:13.819
wasn't like he lost horribly. Oh, yeah. No, I

00:32:13.819 --> 00:32:18.059
don't think this really hurt Zepeda. Zepeda's

00:32:18.059 --> 00:32:22.319
reputation. I think everyone expected him to

00:32:22.319 --> 00:32:26.339
lose. Yeah. But honestly, he lost a lot less

00:32:26.339 --> 00:32:29.460
worse than what I expected. A lot of people also

00:32:29.460 --> 00:32:31.140
thought he was going to get knocked out. What?

00:32:34.019 --> 00:32:36.940
A bunch of people were saying that. What the

00:32:36.940 --> 00:32:42.039
fuck? That is just absurd. Yeah, I couldn't see

00:32:42.039 --> 00:32:46.539
how that would happen. Shakur put on a great

00:32:46.539 --> 00:32:50.500
fight. Shakur threw hard punches that fight.

00:32:50.819 --> 00:32:55.640
That was beautiful. And he didn't break his hand.

00:32:56.140 --> 00:32:58.079
Yeah, exactly. That was some of the most beautiful

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:01.319
fighting I've seen in a while. Standing punch

00:33:01.319 --> 00:33:06.599
in the pocket like that? It is... The scores

00:33:06.599 --> 00:33:09.819
would suggest that Stevenson put on, like, an

00:33:09.819 --> 00:33:16.079
absolute clinic. 118 -110 times 2, 119 -109.

00:33:16.440 --> 00:33:19.400
Like, that's the best scores they gave him? The

00:33:19.400 --> 00:33:24.319
game was 10 -2? Yeah, that's ridiculous. I think

00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.640
Zepeda won at least three rounds. Yeah. He won

00:33:27.640 --> 00:33:33.480
two, three, and four, in my opinion. Fans also

00:33:33.480 --> 00:33:38.799
gave him two, three, and four as well. One judge

00:33:38.799 --> 00:33:41.400
gave him seven and one judge gave him eight.

00:33:43.460 --> 00:33:48.180
Yeah. I know Shakur won, but that seems like

00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:49.460
a little bit of favoritism. I'm not going to

00:33:49.460 --> 00:33:55.299
lie. Yeah, it does. I wonder where Shakur goes

00:33:55.299 --> 00:33:58.160
from here now, though, because he's a free agent.

00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:03.460
That could only mean one thing. Well, he can't...

00:34:03.460 --> 00:34:08.760
If Tank can stay out of jail... It's gotta be

00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:10.880
a Tank fight, I'll tell you, because Tank doesn't

00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:14.320
have to fight Roach again, right? If the fight's

00:34:14.320 --> 00:34:18.159
off, if the fight's really off, you know, you

00:34:18.159 --> 00:34:20.960
can just wait and fight your crew, and then fight

00:34:20.960 --> 00:34:25.280
Roach after. You know? Well, isn't Tank fighting

00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:30.239
Jake Paul? Yeah, but they're... I don't know.

00:34:30.750 --> 00:34:34.349
I would hope that Tank fights Shakur. I really

00:34:34.349 --> 00:34:37.650
want to see that fight now. I do think, I keep

00:34:37.650 --> 00:34:39.309
flip -flopping, because I would say that Tank

00:34:39.309 --> 00:34:41.929
would beat Shakur. Now I think that Shakur has

00:34:41.929 --> 00:34:44.730
the ability to beat Tank. You know, like, he

00:34:44.730 --> 00:34:48.230
can. Based on what you saw. Based on what I saw,

00:34:48.309 --> 00:34:51.949
like, he could fucking beat Tank. Especially

00:34:51.949 --> 00:34:54.389
after the Roche try, too. I was like, well, with

00:34:54.389 --> 00:34:58.050
what Roche did to him, that's Lamont Roche. Shakur's

00:34:58.050 --> 00:34:59.940
a different beast, you know? Shakur's a whole

00:34:59.940 --> 00:35:03.760
different animal. I think that if Tank catches

00:35:03.760 --> 00:35:08.380
Shakur, possibly Shakur can go down. But we'll

00:35:08.380 --> 00:35:09.920
see when that fight happens. If that fight even

00:35:09.920 --> 00:35:13.400
happens, which I kind of doubt. But I hope it

00:35:13.400 --> 00:35:18.400
happens. It'll be interesting to see who Shakur

00:35:18.400 --> 00:35:20.699
goes with promotionally. Because that is going

00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:25.400
to determine his possible next fights. Well,

00:35:25.460 --> 00:35:27.079
I'll tell you this. He's not going to top rank.

00:35:27.239 --> 00:35:30.469
He's not going to Queensberry. I doubt he's going

00:35:30.469 --> 00:35:34.829
to go to Golden Boy. Why not top rank? He was

00:35:34.829 --> 00:35:39.469
already with them. Oh, okay. So I feel like he's

00:35:39.469 --> 00:35:41.329
just going to stay with Eddie. I don't think

00:35:41.329 --> 00:35:43.949
that he's going to go to PBC. If he does, he'll

00:35:43.949 --> 00:35:47.250
do like a one fight deal. Because I don't think

00:35:47.250 --> 00:35:51.989
the PBC has a lot of fighters at 135. I think

00:35:51.989 --> 00:35:54.210
the only one is really Tank, huh? I think you're

00:35:54.210 --> 00:35:58.360
right. That would be like a one fight deal. Unless

00:35:58.360 --> 00:35:59.900
he goes up and wait, of course. But that's a

00:35:59.900 --> 00:36:05.679
different story. But yeah, that's... I wonder

00:36:05.679 --> 00:36:07.480
what Shakur's going to do next. He's probably

00:36:07.480 --> 00:36:08.719
going to fight next year. I don't think he's

00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.619
going to fight again this year. He's already

00:36:10.619 --> 00:36:14.980
fought twice. They've already got the ring cards

00:36:14.980 --> 00:36:20.219
assembled for the end of the year. I don't know.

00:36:23.659 --> 00:36:28.360
Yeah, that would be a good fight. Good little

00:36:28.360 --> 00:36:32.340
unification. I mean, I personally would like

00:36:32.340 --> 00:36:35.739
to see him versus Keyshawn, too, but... Oh, yeah,

00:36:35.800 --> 00:36:37.820
they're not going to do that. Yeah, that's not

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:39.519
going to happen. That's never going to happen.

00:36:39.820 --> 00:36:42.260
The thing is that I also wanted to see Keyshawn

00:36:42.260 --> 00:36:47.420
versus Tank, and then Raven versus Shakur. You

00:36:47.420 --> 00:36:52.460
know? Then have the Undisputed fight. Would be

00:36:52.460 --> 00:36:56.699
nice. Well, I mean, there's also one other guy

00:36:56.699 --> 00:36:58.599
that I think... It's probably the most likely

00:36:58.599 --> 00:37:04.699
option for sure. Of Dula Mason? Okay. You just

00:37:04.699 --> 00:37:08.420
rained on my parade. Nah, who do you think I

00:37:08.420 --> 00:37:09.780
was talking about? Who do you think I was talking

00:37:09.780 --> 00:37:13.099
about? That was who I thought you were talking

00:37:13.099 --> 00:37:15.900
about. Yeah, Sam Noakes. Yeah, of course. Sam

00:37:15.900 --> 00:37:19.179
Noakes. Dalton Smith. All these Brit bums. No,

00:37:19.199 --> 00:37:21.679
I'm talking about my boy Floyd Schofield. Oh.

00:37:22.860 --> 00:37:26.719
That, I think, is a good fight for... Well, I

00:37:26.719 --> 00:37:28.039
think it's an exciting fight. I don't know about

00:37:28.039 --> 00:37:30.360
it's a good fight to go for this point in the

00:37:30.360 --> 00:37:34.539
career. But, you know, that's still an exciting

00:37:34.539 --> 00:37:40.019
fight I would love to watch. How about Andy Cruz?

00:37:41.039 --> 00:37:45.440
No, no. It's his mandatory. I would not want

00:37:45.440 --> 00:37:47.179
to watch Andy Cruz fight, I'll tell you that

00:37:47.179 --> 00:37:52.429
right now. Andy Cruz is one... For Murataya,

00:37:52.670 --> 00:37:58.250
one for Shakur and two for Tank. Rankings -wise.

00:37:58.949 --> 00:38:00.570
I'll tell you, this is going to be a lot easier

00:38:00.570 --> 00:38:05.769
to fight Shakur than fight Murataya. Promotional

00:38:05.769 --> 00:38:13.190
-wise. Yeah. Because I doubt that the top rank

00:38:13.190 --> 00:38:17.190
is going to want to let Andy Cruz beat Murataya,

00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:20.480
which, yeah, they're a guy, you know. And I think

00:38:20.480 --> 00:38:22.179
it's easier for Eddie to get a fight in -house,

00:38:22.300 --> 00:38:29.519
you know? So, what did you think about Shakur

00:38:29.519 --> 00:38:32.880
saying he's not going to fight like that again?

00:38:33.199 --> 00:38:38.400
That he took too much damage? When did he say

00:38:38.400 --> 00:38:45.880
this? Post -fight interview. No shit. Yeah. I

00:38:45.880 --> 00:38:48.900
mean, I know he can fight like this. But the

00:38:48.900 --> 00:38:50.900
thing is, it really depends on the fighter he's

00:38:50.900 --> 00:38:54.420
fighting against, you know? Yeah. I always knew

00:38:54.420 --> 00:38:56.980
he could fight like this, but I always knew he

00:38:56.980 --> 00:39:00.039
chose not to. And then after this exciting fight

00:39:00.039 --> 00:39:02.800
that everybody loved and is talking about, he

00:39:02.800 --> 00:39:06.840
basically said, you'll never see it again. That's

00:39:06.840 --> 00:39:09.599
unfortunate, honestly, because I think he needs

00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.159
this type of fight to become popular, or stay

00:39:12.159 --> 00:39:15.559
popular, or grow his fan base, you know? Absolutely.

00:39:15.559 --> 00:39:18.650
I agree. That's why Tank's a well -known name

00:39:18.650 --> 00:39:21.010
is because he gets knockouts. He's exciting somewhat,

00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:25.969
you know? But, I don't know. I would love to

00:39:25.969 --> 00:39:27.769
see Shakur Tank. I think right now is the perfect

00:39:27.769 --> 00:39:29.710
time to make it before they fight anybody else.

00:39:30.750 --> 00:39:33.110
Yeah, I think everybody wants that one. Like,

00:39:33.110 --> 00:39:36.849
I think that's a pretty highly demanded fight

00:39:36.849 --> 00:39:39.909
all around. But I also don't think it happens

00:39:39.909 --> 00:39:44.409
just because it's boxing. Yeah, Tank won't take

00:39:44.409 --> 00:39:52.780
that. Maxie Hughes is on his top five mandatories.

00:39:53.920 --> 00:40:02.860
Pretty crazy. And he's the silver champion. That's

00:40:02.860 --> 00:40:09.739
just mean. Mean to Maxie? Yeah. He would look

00:40:09.739 --> 00:40:20.610
so stupid. They would be pretty sad. Anything

00:40:20.610 --> 00:40:28.489
more for this one? Nah. Okay. Time for me to

00:40:28.489 --> 00:40:33.250
take my lashings. Serving up. Getting myself

00:40:33.250 --> 00:40:39.389
a nice healthy portion size of humble pie. A

00:40:39.389 --> 00:40:45.670
nice big slice. Hamza Shiraz knocks out Edgar

00:40:45.670 --> 00:40:50.880
Berlenga in five. Fucking Ber... I, uh, how did

00:40:50.880 --> 00:40:56.820
I, I, the, my exasperated expression, as I said,

00:40:56.880 --> 00:41:01.659
I fucking knew, I knew not to, not to believe

00:41:01.659 --> 00:41:04.260
in Berlinga. I knew it. Just everything in my

00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:07.019
fucking body and brain was saying, don't, don't

00:41:07.019 --> 00:41:11.099
do it. Do not, do not support him. He's a fucking

00:41:11.099 --> 00:41:14.539
idiot. And you're going, it's just going to go

00:41:14.539 --> 00:41:18.510
badly for you. But you did it anyways. But I

00:41:18.510 --> 00:41:23.550
did it anyways. What do you know? Hamza Shiraz

00:41:23.550 --> 00:41:28.590
knocks his ass the fuck out. Shiraz looks so

00:41:28.590 --> 00:41:32.849
big. Yeah. Everybody was saying that Berlanga

00:41:32.849 --> 00:41:34.929
was going to be the bigger guy and a weight bully

00:41:34.929 --> 00:41:37.769
and everything. And Shiraz looked way bigger

00:41:37.769 --> 00:41:39.969
than him in the ring. It was crazy. The face

00:41:39.969 --> 00:41:43.369
-offs at the media press conferences, just seeing

00:41:43.369 --> 00:41:46.300
the photos. The height difference was really

00:41:46.300 --> 00:41:49.599
stark. But not even just height. Like, he was

00:41:49.599 --> 00:41:54.380
just bigger. Bigger frame. Yeah. I don't know

00:41:54.380 --> 00:41:56.880
how that man was cutting down to whatever, 160.

00:41:57.360 --> 00:42:05.699
Yeah. 154. Crazy. I ate my words for this fight.

00:42:06.179 --> 00:42:11.960
Yep. I'll tell you. I was very sad after. As

00:42:11.960 --> 00:42:16.389
much as I fucking hate Berlanga. I did not want

00:42:16.389 --> 00:42:21.010
to see Hamza win. And now we see in the Discord

00:42:21.010 --> 00:42:24.309
and people online that people are now saying

00:42:24.309 --> 00:42:27.710
Hamza deserves a canola fight. Even my own dad's

00:42:27.710 --> 00:42:30.469
saying that. Every day for the past couple days,

00:42:30.690 --> 00:42:38.230
my dad isn't telling me. And every day, I keep

00:42:38.230 --> 00:42:41.269
thinking, yeah, he's rubbing it in. He hated

00:42:41.269 --> 00:42:44.829
Berlanga. He hated Berlanga. Well, he hates Berlanga.

00:42:44.829 --> 00:42:47.829
It was funny. Mid -fight, right before Berlanga

00:42:47.829 --> 00:42:49.630
got the knockdown, he's like, this is going to

00:42:49.630 --> 00:42:51.610
go to the decision. Watch. And then he got the

00:42:51.610 --> 00:42:53.449
knockdown. And then he got the knockdown. He's

00:42:53.449 --> 00:42:57.750
like, oh! Oh! My dad's been rubbing my face every

00:42:57.750 --> 00:43:02.250
fucking day now. Excellent. That's basically

00:43:02.250 --> 00:43:04.329
what I'm dealing with now. I got to live with

00:43:04.329 --> 00:43:07.829
it. I talk too much shit. Lynn's happy. Didn't

00:43:07.829 --> 00:43:10.440
have to pay me any turns of taking. That's true.

00:43:10.739 --> 00:43:16.900
Yeah, I had to eat my own words. So, I've been

00:43:16.900 --> 00:43:20.280
humbled. But it's also sad to see that Hamid

00:43:20.280 --> 00:43:21.699
Shiraz is probably going to get a shot at Canelo.

00:43:22.300 --> 00:43:26.840
I think he does deserve it, though. I did not

00:43:26.840 --> 00:43:29.659
think he deserved it. I'm surprised. Just as

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:34.440
much as Berlanga did. More than Skull does. Berlanga

00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:36.440
didn't, but the problem is that they never deserved

00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:38.809
it. None of those guys deserved it. Yeah, I'm

00:43:38.809 --> 00:43:41.849
just saying that Shiraz isn't going to get the

00:43:41.849 --> 00:43:44.969
Canelo payday anyways because Canelo's going

00:43:44.969 --> 00:43:48.190
to duck him. No, no, he's not. He's going to

00:43:48.190 --> 00:43:51.469
be forced to fight him. I don't know. Canelo

00:43:51.469 --> 00:43:56.429
signed with Riyadh. Yeah. And the problem is

00:43:56.429 --> 00:44:04.190
that with Berlanga, how is he going to fight

00:44:04.190 --> 00:44:05.690
Berlanga and then get a shot at Unzbuter with

00:44:05.690 --> 00:44:08.099
someone like Christian Billy? who's been working

00:44:08.099 --> 00:44:10.260
his way up legitimately for the past couple years

00:44:10.260 --> 00:44:15.960
and is now the interim champion, has been curved,

00:44:16.139 --> 00:44:20.139
you know? Ridiculous. Even someone like Diego

00:44:20.139 --> 00:44:22.519
Pacheco deserves more. Diego Pacheco's young,

00:44:22.719 --> 00:44:28.619
but he deserves way more than Shiraz. In my opinion.

00:44:29.159 --> 00:44:31.480
All these guys do. I'd say they're about the

00:44:31.480 --> 00:44:34.739
same level of deserving. Yeah, I would not be

00:44:34.739 --> 00:44:40.369
mad at Pacheco either. Well, I think it's just

00:44:40.369 --> 00:44:42.929
because they built their way up to become an

00:44:42.929 --> 00:44:45.289
interim title holder. Instead of fighting someone

00:44:45.289 --> 00:44:47.789
like Berlanga and knowing your connections, you

00:44:47.789 --> 00:44:51.309
know? It's boxing, though, but come on. I'm looking

00:44:51.309 --> 00:44:56.670
at the rankings to see... How the fuck is Bektamir

00:44:56.670 --> 00:45:00.489
number one in the WBA? Well, he fought in Final

00:45:00.489 --> 00:45:06.510
Eliminator. Against Darius Fulgham? And he didn't

00:45:06.510 --> 00:45:09.880
look very good. That's your final eliminator?

00:45:10.480 --> 00:45:15.019
Darius fucking Fulgham? I still want to see Osli's

00:45:15.019 --> 00:45:20.000
fight. Someone up there, but we'll see. I doubt

00:45:20.000 --> 00:45:24.420
that'll ever happen anywhere in the near future,

00:45:24.639 --> 00:45:29.340
but we'll see. He's number three in the IBF.

00:45:31.340 --> 00:45:37.530
So that's... So maybe you'll get to see it. How

00:45:37.530 --> 00:45:41.050
is Jermall Charlo number one in the WBC, too?

00:45:41.510 --> 00:45:44.630
That's ridiculous as well. I don't get that either.

00:45:44.929 --> 00:45:48.989
I really don't. Honestly, no. Honestly, I think

00:45:48.989 --> 00:45:50.510
Hamza probably deserves it more than Charlo.

00:45:52.190 --> 00:45:54.110
If there's one person I would say, it's probably

00:45:54.110 --> 00:46:00.369
he deserves it more than Charlo. You think they

00:46:00.369 --> 00:46:04.590
want to do the storyline of Canelo fighting both

00:46:04.590 --> 00:46:10.510
Charlo brothers? He's going to beat Jermall Charlo.

00:46:10.690 --> 00:46:14.750
I don't think there's even a question. Of course

00:46:14.750 --> 00:46:18.170
he's going to. As much as I hate that Hamza fight,

00:46:18.289 --> 00:46:21.829
dude, it would probably be Canelo's hardest fight.

00:46:22.630 --> 00:46:26.849
In quite a while. Yeah, in quite a while. Just

00:46:26.849 --> 00:46:31.829
because how tall he is, how strong he punches.

00:46:32.250 --> 00:46:36.349
So I can kind of see why. But it sucks because

00:46:36.349 --> 00:46:38.579
I already know the result of that fight. It's

00:46:38.579 --> 00:46:43.440
a kangaroo court type of fight. I just wanted

00:46:43.440 --> 00:46:51.460
Turkey to take an L. Yeah. That was it. That

00:46:51.460 --> 00:46:53.699
would've been funny. He'd belong to win the King

00:46:53.699 --> 00:46:56.420
of New York, but he's now the Jester of New York.

00:46:57.400 --> 00:47:04.139
The King has fallen. Yeah. By the British. Ugh.

00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:10.309
Gross. Gross. All right. Anything more for this?

00:47:10.849 --> 00:47:15.849
For the ring? No. I don't think so. As much as

00:47:15.849 --> 00:47:18.369
I hate to say it, it was a fire card. It was

00:47:18.369 --> 00:47:19.889
a good card. It was amazing. It was absolutely

00:47:19.889 --> 00:47:22.130
a good card. In my opinion, it's probably the

00:47:22.130 --> 00:47:24.710
best card that Turkey's ever assembled. Oh, 100

00:47:24.710 --> 00:47:28.130
% the best he's ever assembled. Right now, what

00:47:28.130 --> 00:47:33.849
are the other options? Fucking Eubank Ben was

00:47:33.849 --> 00:47:36.909
not a good card. It just happened to have a good

00:47:36.909 --> 00:47:42.760
fight. fight and a half on it uh music theory

00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:49.019
one times square fucking worst card in history

00:47:49.019 --> 00:47:53.679
followed by the worst fight in fucking canelo

00:47:53.679 --> 00:48:01.260
history i will say turkey has been making improvements

00:48:01.260 --> 00:48:10.800
every every iteration of his fight cards. I think

00:48:10.800 --> 00:48:13.380
this Ring 3 card was for sure the best just because

00:48:13.380 --> 00:48:17.679
of the atmosphere too. And the fights they all

00:48:17.679 --> 00:48:20.780
delivered. Well they finally had a fight in someone's

00:48:20.780 --> 00:48:25.119
hometown where people cared. Yeah. It was fun.

00:48:25.739 --> 00:48:32.960
It's good stuff. I liked it. Unfortunately. Alright.

00:48:34.559 --> 00:48:38.190
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bleak weekend. Bleak end? That's okay. I'm too

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busy this weekend to watch boxing anyways. Saturday,

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July 26th. We've got two cards. I'll start with

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Salida on the zone at the Little Caesars Arena

00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:15.619
in Detroit. There's only two fights on here that

00:54:15.619 --> 00:54:19.159
I really care about. Tony Harrison is back versus

00:54:19.159 --> 00:54:25.179
Edward Diaz. So that should be fun. I don't know

00:54:25.179 --> 00:54:29.500
who that is. If you saw him and checked out his

00:54:29.500 --> 00:54:33.159
record a bit, I'm sure you'd remember. Clarissa

00:54:33.159 --> 00:54:37.619
Shields versus Lonnie Daniels. Clarissa Shields,

00:54:37.639 --> 00:54:41.059
the undisputed heavyweight champion versus Lonnie

00:54:41.059 --> 00:54:44.360
Daniels, the undisputed light heavyweight champion.

00:54:46.750 --> 00:54:50.469
Could be good. What's interesting is that between

00:54:50.469 --> 00:54:53.650
some of the divisions, heavyweight is light heavyweight.

00:54:54.210 --> 00:54:57.809
They skip. They go middle, super middle, and

00:54:57.809 --> 00:55:03.969
then heavyweight. Some of them do. It's a weird

00:55:03.969 --> 00:55:09.429
situation, but still should be a good time. Good

00:55:09.429 --> 00:55:15.550
-ish versus Shields. Yeah, I suspect Clarissa

00:55:15.550 --> 00:55:24.309
Schiltz will just win. As usual. And top rank

00:55:24.309 --> 00:55:28.610
on ESPN at the Madison Square Garden Theater.

00:55:32.730 --> 00:55:35.690
Let's go from the bottom up. I'm just going to

00:55:35.690 --> 00:55:40.409
cherry pick. Juanma Lopez. This is Juanmita.

00:55:41.230 --> 00:55:47.619
He's the son of that. Juanma versus Jorge Gonzalez

00:55:47.619 --> 00:55:53.460
Sanchez. Emiliano Vargas versus Alexander Espinoza.

00:55:54.579 --> 00:55:59.940
That should be fun. Steven Navarro. I see him

00:55:59.940 --> 00:56:03.159
on these cards a lot. I should probably actually

00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:09.039
watch him one of these times. He's fine. Oh.

00:56:10.920 --> 00:56:16.610
You know who else is just... fine. Bakudir Jalalov

00:56:16.610 --> 00:56:23.889
versus John Parker. He's just fine. He's a weird

00:56:23.889 --> 00:56:33.590
looking dude, Jalalov. So, anything getting you

00:56:33.590 --> 00:56:41.289
excited as I go up the card? No, not really.

00:56:43.980 --> 00:56:47.320
Saul doesn't watch the undercards. Wait, wait,

00:56:47.340 --> 00:56:49.059
wait. I watch the undercards of Top Rank, yeah.

00:56:49.099 --> 00:56:53.940
I just don't think it's that exciting. Fair enough.

00:56:55.440 --> 00:56:59.820
Rohan Polanco versus Quinton Randall. Polanco

00:56:59.820 --> 00:57:04.599
should be an exciting knockout just because that's

00:57:04.599 --> 00:57:09.800
how they're building him right now. Bruce Carrington

00:57:09.800 --> 00:57:17.639
versus Mateus Hayta. Harrington is so fucking

00:57:17.639 --> 00:57:22.079
boring. Yeah. That's actually like a Shakur.

00:57:24.000 --> 00:57:27.260
Like even worse though. Because he's not that

00:57:27.260 --> 00:57:31.820
good. Oh yeah. What I mean is he's actually like

00:57:31.820 --> 00:57:36.699
what people were saying Shakur was. I don't think

00:57:36.699 --> 00:57:41.179
he's that bad. I don't know. I don't like watching

00:57:41.179 --> 00:57:46.329
him. I usually skip his fights. This is not a

00:57:46.329 --> 00:57:48.829
great card either. There's a lot of names I recognize,

00:57:49.110 --> 00:57:53.130
but they're all pretty mid. Yeah, something like

00:57:53.130 --> 00:57:56.309
that. You know who they are, it's just you don't

00:57:56.309 --> 00:57:59.230
really care for... I don't have a strong opinion.

00:58:02.489 --> 00:58:09.210
Me neither. It was fine, guys. Stay busy. Interim

00:58:09.210 --> 00:58:13.780
WBC title on the line there. And the vacant WBO

00:58:13.780 --> 00:58:18.360
super welterweight title. That's 154. Xander

00:58:18.360 --> 00:58:21.920
Zayas versus Jorge Perez. Where did you last

00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:27.099
see Jorge when he beat Charles Conwell? Oh, yeah.

00:58:27.500 --> 00:58:32.019
So that's fun. I think Perez is going to take

00:58:32.019 --> 00:58:35.780
it. You think so? Yeah, I think Perez probably

00:58:35.780 --> 00:58:40.119
would beat Zayas. I think Zayas is... He's okay,

00:58:40.260 --> 00:58:42.800
but I don't think he's going to beat Perez. If

00:58:42.800 --> 00:58:44.300
it goes to the decision, though, I'll give it

00:58:44.300 --> 00:58:46.340
to Zayas, for sure. Oh, of course. He's in New

00:58:46.340 --> 00:58:49.820
York. He's Puerto Rican. Mexico versus Puerto

00:58:49.820 --> 00:58:53.400
Rico. Yeah. It'll be a good fight, though. It'll

00:58:53.400 --> 00:58:58.480
be fun. I'll say. I assume Zayas is going to

00:58:58.480 --> 00:59:03.519
win this one. Yeah. I'm going to be going for

00:59:03.519 --> 00:59:07.679
Perez, though. Oh, I'm cheering for Perez, but...

00:59:07.920 --> 00:59:11.940
I'm expecting Zayas to win. Yeah. Pick league,

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.699
I will be picking Zayas, I think, by decision.

00:59:17.860 --> 00:59:21.980
Maybe we'll see Zayas find that new gear that

00:59:21.980 --> 00:59:26.539
finally starts impressing people. Maybe. I would

00:59:26.539 --> 00:59:30.880
not bet money on that. I think Perez could push

00:59:30.880 --> 00:59:34.539
him to do it. If he has the gear, Perez can do

00:59:34.539 --> 00:59:39.409
it, can push him to it. That's fair. I do want

00:59:39.409 --> 00:59:41.309
to see that happen because, honestly, they can

00:59:41.309 --> 00:59:44.409
make a fight with Virgil. I would love that.

00:59:45.889 --> 00:59:48.690
Virgil versus Zayas? No, Virgil versus Perez.

00:59:48.929 --> 00:59:51.409
Oh, I was about to say, like, do you want Zayas

00:59:51.409 --> 00:59:56.150
to die? No, no. Well, honestly, I mean... Maybe.

00:59:56.269 --> 00:59:57.670
If Zayas wins, they're going to give Virgil that

00:59:57.670 --> 00:59:59.849
shot. I'll tell you this right now. Oh, of course.

01:00:00.130 --> 01:00:03.309
You know top rank how they are. Top rank protection

01:00:03.309 --> 01:00:05.829
system. They're going to protect the fighter

01:00:05.829 --> 01:00:08.730
until they're absolutely sure they can win the

01:00:08.730 --> 01:00:11.989
fight. Or it gives them enough money to where

01:00:11.989 --> 01:00:14.409
they say, fuck the fighter, let's get that money,

01:00:14.469 --> 01:00:22.730
man. Yeah. That's how Top Rank is. Top Rank does

01:00:22.730 --> 01:00:25.010
put on some pretty good cards every once in a

01:00:25.010 --> 01:00:29.010
while, though. When they decide to risk their

01:00:29.010 --> 01:00:33.420
guys, they do it for something good. Keyshawn's

01:00:33.420 --> 01:00:36.099
original card, that card originally was going

01:00:36.099 --> 01:00:42.780
to be good. Yeah. Until... Jared Anderson versus

01:00:42.780 --> 01:00:45.360
Martin Bacoli. Did they sacrifice him for something

01:00:45.360 --> 01:00:50.420
good there? Bacoli's... Of all the things you're

01:00:50.420 --> 01:00:52.639
going to gamble your fucking future on, it's

01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:56.880
going to be him? I don't think anybody expected...

01:00:58.119 --> 01:01:00.539
Jared Anderson to lose that one, though. I don't

01:01:00.539 --> 01:01:05.760
think they thought it was a gamble. This must

01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:07.800
be like the guy that was sitting next to me at

01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:11.460
the event. He's like, Anderson's going to school.

01:01:11.539 --> 01:01:14.139
This guy went to go get a beer. I'm like, I don't

01:01:14.139 --> 01:01:17.820
know about that, buddy. Oh, no, I won money on

01:01:17.820 --> 01:01:25.619
that fight. I knew Anderson wasn't that good,

01:01:25.780 --> 01:01:31.320
but I think Top Rank thought he was. All right.

01:01:32.699 --> 01:01:36.380
Anything more for Top Rank at the MSG Theater?

01:01:38.480 --> 01:01:43.760
Nope. Let's go praise. All right. Really quick.

01:01:47.840 --> 01:01:49.940
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a pretty bleak weekend. Shanada, you're doing

01:03:01.539 --> 01:03:05.000
something this weekend. I am. I'm very excited.

01:03:05.280 --> 01:03:10.579
I'm going to the Ryzen Summerfest in the Saitama

01:03:10.579 --> 01:03:15.150
Super Arena. I'm super excited. I want to see

01:03:15.150 --> 01:03:17.630
the arena, which is a very nerdy thing to say,

01:03:17.750 --> 01:03:19.869
but I've seen it on TV so many times. I want

01:03:19.869 --> 01:03:24.730
to see the inside of the arena. And I think Ryzen

01:03:24.730 --> 01:03:28.650
just is probably a completely different atmosphere

01:03:28.650 --> 01:03:32.769
than the boxing. I'm expecting many less businessmen

01:03:32.769 --> 01:03:35.510
with escorts and many more drunken hooligans.

01:03:36.480 --> 01:03:39.519
So I'm hoping to make friends. I've been practicing

01:03:39.519 --> 01:03:42.320
my Japanese to try and talk to people beside

01:03:42.320 --> 01:03:47.139
me. Asking who's fighting. Yeah, yeah. I think

01:03:47.139 --> 01:03:49.440
I talked about it a couple weeks ago, but I have

01:03:49.440 --> 01:03:52.739
started memorizing possible answers. That's good.

01:03:52.820 --> 01:03:56.860
Because I had memorized all the questions, Saul,

01:03:57.019 --> 01:03:59.440
and then totally forgot that I need to understand

01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:05.360
what they tell me after the question. So. Yeah,

01:04:05.400 --> 01:04:10.019
no, I'm super stoked for it. Yeah, this is a

01:04:10.019 --> 01:04:12.719
good weekend for it to fall on. You're not going

01:04:12.719 --> 01:04:15.139
to be missing a whole lot. Yeah, I'm not missing

01:04:15.139 --> 01:04:18.860
much for boxing, and it's like fucking 12 hours.

01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:22.000
It's so long. 12 is an exaggeration, but it starts

01:04:22.000 --> 01:04:24.260
at 1 in the afternoon, and I expect it to go

01:04:24.260 --> 01:04:28.360
until like 10. The Ryzen event? Yeah. Oh, hell

01:04:28.360 --> 01:04:31.059
yeah. Like, so many fights. Marathon events.

01:04:31.739 --> 01:04:35.119
Yeah. I might actually end up having to spend

01:04:35.119 --> 01:04:38.019
the night in Tokyo. I think I'll get out of Saitama,

01:04:38.099 --> 01:04:40.119
but I don't know if I'll make it out of Tokyo

01:04:40.119 --> 01:04:44.340
before the trains end. There's worse things.

01:04:44.420 --> 01:04:49.659
I can spend a night in Tokyo. Saul, you doing

01:04:49.659 --> 01:04:51.940
anything fun? Or are you watching the boxing

01:04:51.940 --> 01:04:54.519
with me? I'm watching the boxing with you. That's

01:04:54.519 --> 01:04:55.960
what I'm doing. I'm probably going to play Quip

01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:59.869
Lash. Oh, that's right. We've got Quiplash. That's

01:04:59.869 --> 01:05:05.050
part of the fucking Discord fun. Yeah, we haven't

01:05:05.050 --> 01:05:06.730
played for a little while. We should do that

01:05:06.730 --> 01:05:13.730
this weekend. Yeah, let's do that. I'll have

01:05:13.730 --> 01:05:16.869
to get the game just in case somebody else, someone

01:05:16.869 --> 01:05:21.289
who does have it, it doesn't show up. It's all

01:05:21.289 --> 01:05:24.210
good. I can do that. I've said a few times I

01:05:24.210 --> 01:05:27.590
don't mind buying that one. We can fight over

01:05:27.590 --> 01:05:33.309
who spends money. Shit. Parting words. What do

01:05:33.309 --> 01:05:38.010
I got? Discord is fun. There's boxing talk if

01:05:38.010 --> 01:05:41.190
you're into MMA also. There's MMA spaces. Fucking

01:05:41.190 --> 01:05:47.010
food. Your pets. Video games. Book club. All

01:05:47.010 --> 01:05:49.610
kinds of shit, man. This is more than just fights.

01:05:50.010 --> 01:05:52.829
On Fight Night, please make no mistake. We're

01:05:52.829 --> 01:05:56.809
talking about the fights. Throughout the rest

01:05:56.809 --> 01:06:02.590
of the week, we're having a good time. All right.

01:06:02.590 --> 01:06:04.789
Well, that's it for this edition of the Boxing

01:06:04.789 --> 01:06:07.289
B -Sides. See you on the other side.
