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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Let's get into this shit. The Boxing B -Sides

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are back, baby. Up in your ears, I'm joined by

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the one and only Alex. How are you doing, bud?

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Doing great. How about you? Living the pizza

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dream. Well, what pizza dream am I talking about?

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You'll have to go to Patreon to find out. Shanada,

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how are you? I am good. It's raining cats and

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dogs here today, and I got so wet walking to

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work today. It's gross. nothing worse than wet

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clothes all day oh being yeah having to walk

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around in them too yeah oh shit let's just quickly

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some mma stuff extending the the branch of friendship

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to the ultimate effing casuals uh coming up this

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weekend there's the pfl champion series in africa

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so PFL, the way PFL is structured, it has regional

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scenes like in Middle East, North Africa, the

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Arab world. There's Europe, and now they're breaking

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into Africa. So I think this is the kickoff for

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that. So expect to see more Francis Ngannou at

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the forefront since he's like the COO of that,

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I think. But good fights. At least two of them.

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Johnny Eblen. Versus Costello Van Stenis. That

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should be enjoyable. Evelyn comes to Rumble.

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And Dakota Ditcheva. So the women's flyweight.

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If you don't like grappling, you're going to

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love Dakota Ditcheva. She just throws a shitload

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of punches. And then throws knees and elbows

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in as well. It's pretty fun. Nice. and UFC 318

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at the Smoothie King Center. Excellent name.

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This one's in New Orleans. It's the retirement

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of Dustin Poirier. He's going out with a bang,

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fighting Max Holloway. This should be fireworks

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as well. How are we going to get the Smoothie

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King? Oh, yeah. The Smoothie King Center. What

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news is out there? I know some shit just popped

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up, but I didn't track it. We really need to

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make Vom our news guy. Yeah. I've been meaning

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to talk to him, because the way he does the PDF,

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or not PDF, the Excel for the Pick League, it's

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way too phenomenal. That's something he does

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for a living, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that was

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what he had mentioned to me when we talked about

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it briefly. Taylor Serrano 3 averaged 6 million

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viewers. That seems pretty good. That is really

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good. That's really cool. And for a women's fight

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too? Yeah, exactly. That's amazing for women's

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boxing. It was not pay -per -view though, right?

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Just regular Netflix? Yeah, just Netflix subscription.

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I really think they'd get more eyes on boxing

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if they made less cards pay -per -view. Yeah.

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It's unfortunate that one of the ones this weekend,

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well, two of them are fucking pay -per -view.

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Well, I agree to a sense, but I think it also

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really matters the platform. I think if boxing

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wants to thrive again, it should be on a more

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popular platform like Netflix or even HBO Max,

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anything like that, you know? And no pay -per

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-view as well. That would bring a lot of eyes.

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Yeah, like it used to just be on TV when boxing

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was popular. That's true. It was. Oh, what the

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hell is this? Gabriel Rosado is fighting on August

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2nd on Marv Nation? Yeah, Marv Nation is kind

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of a... I thought they were a joke, but they've

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turned themselves into something serious. Ish.

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Yeah, serious -ish. I kind of respect the grind,

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you know? Yeah. They got some people, you know?

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Yeah. I just don't want Gabe fighting anymore.

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Just go be a commentator. He's good at it. He

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is good at it. He's got a great voice. I haven't

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seen him at many jobs recently, so actually,

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maybe he's got a fight. Make some money a little

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bit. Make some bills. No, he was commentating.

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I guess not the big cards. They put him on the

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smaller DAZN cards, though. That's what I'm saying.

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I haven't seen him on the bigger ones. Because

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he used to be pretty frequently on the Golden

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Boy cards. Yeah, that's true. Now I barely even

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see him. He's on the very obscure ones. i'm not

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seeing anything new just a lot of talk of the

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cards that just passed did uh did you guys talk

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about gervonta's crash out on this one we have

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not i know me and you talked about it but alex

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what do you think about tank being mad his toddler

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is gay well that's a bunch of layers to unfold

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with that whole situation i will say however

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just The whole situation going down in general

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is horrible. But it's not like it has happened

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in the past. Well, this is kind of his third

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strike, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, this is pretty

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much expected from Javante, which is really sad,

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honestly, with the image that gives him. But

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at the same time, that's something that we shouldn't

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encourage. Oh, no, like, definitely not encouraging.

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I think it's one of the dumbest reasons to crash

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out I've heard in a very long time. Is that even

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true, that you crashed out because a toddler

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was gay? Is that actually true? That's what the

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baby mama says. I did go and find, like, actual

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articles where she's quoted as saying that's

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the reason. That's just, that's nuts, dude. So

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he's got to get some help. I guess still kind

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of hearsay because it's her word. It's just her

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word. But I mean, I could see it. I mean, yeah,

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I mean, he's done in the past multiple times.

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I believe her for sure. Yeah. I guess he's going

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to be ducking Roshi again. Oh, 100 percent. He

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doesn't want to try to avenge his L. I'm not

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even trying to be funny. I mean, sometimes I

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just feel like boxers do shit just to get out

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of a fight, you know? I don't know. You guys

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ever think of that? No, I definitely think that

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sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. But I condemn

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him. I hope he gets help somehow. But I don't

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know. I don't want to go off on a Gervonta rant

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right now. Fair enough. Yeah, at least let's

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see how it develops a little bit more. Yeah.

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We'll talk a little more later on. Austin...

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Ammo Williams needs a new opponent for this weekend.

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It's... Change your pick league picks to knockout.

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I think Lom said he was gonna just scrap that

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whole fight. Yeah. Reasonable. I haven't done

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my picks yet. This is a hard week. A lot of close

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fights. There's a lot of fights. I don't know

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who the people are, so I just have to pick a

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name. Yeah, I don't know who Usyk and Dubois

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are. I don't know who Ham and Toppio are. Fucking

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Ham and Eggers. Who the fuck is Pacquiao? That

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undercard, though, for Usyk -Dubois is not great.

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No. Like, other than those two and Akoli, I...

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don't know who anyone is it's pretty atrocious

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for a pay -per -view as well yeah that one i'm

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surprised is a full price pay -per -view it's

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not worth it well it would make sense for the

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pay -per -view being like the uk however for

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the united states i don't think anybody's gonna

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pay for that you're just gonna legally stream

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it unfortunately i may have paid for it when

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i got ring three because it came it was like

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50 off The bundle? Yeah, so might as well. Might

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as well. Support Usyk as he heads off into retirement,

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hopefully. Hopefully. I doubt this. We'll talk

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about it right now, but I doubt this is going

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to be his retirement fight. So yeah, we'll see

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if Admiral Williams comes up with anything. I'll

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probably post on the socials or something. Once

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we get word of a new opponent. If we get a new

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opponent. But this is his fight. Since he's not

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fighting anymore, I guess we can kind of get

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into it now. This is his fight lining up. This

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is a lineup for Janabek. Crazy, actually. That

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is absolutely insane. Ammo Williams gets fucking

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murdered if he fights Janabek. He already got

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murdered by Shiraz. I would say that Janabek

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does worse. Yeah. Faster, for sure. But we'll

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see with that. If he even fights Janabek, you

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know, because you know how they always dig Janabek.

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Janabek's good. And the casuals don't know who

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the fuck he is. So the risk -reward is not there.

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It's actually a shame that they haven't marketed

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him well. I feel like he would be a perfect Riyadh

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season fighter. He's exciting. And top rank isn't

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doing business with Riyadh, as far as I know.

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They are. They do some. They have Abdullah and

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Norman fighting on the same card. Oh, you're

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right. They do work with Riyadh. In a way, it's

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kind of top rank. Half. Half and half. It is

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Eye of the Tiger. That is kind of a different

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situation. You guys are right. Let's get into

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the fucking recaps here. Alright. Jack Catterall

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versus Harlem Eubank. Pre -seeded by Joe Cordina.

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Getting a nice little win. Other than that, I

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don't see anybody. Sky Nicholson was on the card,

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so that's fun. She got a knockout. Ready? Yeah.

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Good for Mrs. Hearn here. I think they're on

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the out. I think Eddie's wife maybe put a stop

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to that. No. Nah. Nah, there's a lot less pictures

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of them together and stuff. I think Eddie's wife

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was like, at least be more discreet. If you're

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gonna fucking dishonor me. Yeah. At least pretend

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you're hiding it. Joe Cordina was a UD. but he

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cruised WBO. I thought Cordina looked good. Yeah,

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he's up at 135 now, so it's kind of a tough ask

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for him to get into a title picture. He's got

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this WBO one lined up, so what, Abdullah Mason

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versus Sam Noakes. We have a pretty good idea

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of how that's going to go. I don't see Cordina

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having too much success over Abdullah Mason.

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Maybe better than Sandbox. Cordina versus Noakes

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after might be cool. Yeah, that's not bad. They're

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both British. Who put the British audience? I

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don't know if I'm going to watch that too much.

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I like Joe Cordina. I'm not sure why, but I do.

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He's fun. Don't kid yourself, Alex. You know

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you're going to be up on Saturday morning watching

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it with the rest of us. All the other degenerates.

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You're right. You're right. And heading off...

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What the hell was that? To finish it off, Jack

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Catterall versus Harlem Eubank. That was a sloppy

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fight until that weird situation with the cuts.

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Yeah. Did you watch this one, Alex? The Harlem...

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I didn't have the opportunity to. Ah. So, Jack

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Catterall did the Tank Davis and ran up to his

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corner in the middle of the fight and it came

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up and, like, white blood off his face. It was

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crazy. Well, I don't like this. It's a new trend.

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Yeah, fighters need to start getting disqualified,

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I think. Yeah, it's starting. Starting. Well,

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I mean, the rule's pretty clear. I mean, change

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it to allow the coaches to be up on the apron

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like a tag team partner the whole time. Just,

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like, waving the towel at them. Like, if you

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need a brush off, come on and get one. Rubbing

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a little Vaseline if they can get far enough

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away to avoid punches for two minutes. Yeah.

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People just call in timeouts so they can wipe

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sweat out of their eyes. God, that's just completely

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ridiculous. At least for this, it was blood.

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It's a little bit more understandable than...

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Yeah, I bet you Tim Zhu wanted to call timeout

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so he could wipe blood off his face. Jesus. So,

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the weird situation for Alex, for you, since

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you weren't able to see it. They had a very nasty

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headbutt, and both of them came away with cuts.

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Jack Catterall's was considerably worse. But

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Harlem Eubanks still had one. Not the worst cut

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you've ever seen. They go back to the corners.

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And then the referee has both doctors check both

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fighters. Now, Jack Catterall, like to the cut

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man's credit, he did a really good job with it.

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And the doctor decided that the considerably

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worse cut was good to go. If you want to continue,

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go ahead. But then Harlem Eubanks cut his doc

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stops the fight. for who knows what the fuck

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reason. Well, I'm 100 % sure that Eubanks Dr.

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Cut stopped the fight for Catterall's Cut, and

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I don't know how the fuck that works, but...

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It's all very confusing. Yeah, it was all very

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confusing. The commentators were confused for

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a while, too. I don't think anybody really understood

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what the fuck was happening. She stopped it for

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Catterall's Cut? Well... I mean, she must have,

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right? Yeah. Eubanks cut wasn't bad enough. No,

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it wasn't. Like Eubanks cut was pretty reasonable

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for, for boxing cuts. It wasn't in a bad spot.

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It was like above the eye, but kind of out to

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the corner. Catterall just like opened up his

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whole eyelid. It was pretty gross. Yeah, like

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that one where you can kind of see the fat underneath.

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It was a bad cut. Yeah, it was pretty nasty.

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But just a confusing situation. I don't understand

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how the doctors ran that one. Also, Jack Catterall

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still sucks. He's not very good. He's kind of

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boring. No, I don't like watching Jack Catterall.

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Like, to be honest. I don't think anybody does.

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Like, I don't know any Catterall fans that aren't

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just because they're from his hometown. If anybody

00:17:14.670 --> 00:17:17.869
honestly told me that, like, Jack Catterall was

00:17:17.869 --> 00:17:19.990
their favorite fighter and they didn't know him

00:17:19.990 --> 00:17:22.289
personally or have some connection, I would...

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I would be very shocked and confused as to why

00:17:27.250 --> 00:17:29.369
the fuck. I was thinking confusion. I might know

00:17:29.369 --> 00:17:33.299
one person. I know one person, but... Really?

00:17:33.619 --> 00:17:38.220
One person. Who's genuinely a fan of his? They

00:17:38.220 --> 00:17:42.140
might be. They might be. Are you talking about

00:17:42.140 --> 00:17:46.759
Lynn? Lynn is not a fan. Okay, because she's

00:17:46.759 --> 00:17:51.940
like a fan of whoever's British. Yeah. I don't

00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:57.519
think specifically Caterall. Specifically anti

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-Caterall. I also wasn't really aware that Harlem

00:18:03.549 --> 00:18:06.309
Eubank is related to the other Eubanks. He's

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the cousin of Chris. Chris. The other guy. Is

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there more than just those two? I think there's

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one more Eubank. Are you sure? Huh. If I'm thinking

00:18:23.869 --> 00:18:30.970
the right person. That's already a little bit

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more time than this card kind of deserves. Yeah,

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but we kind of need some filler. Well, the previews

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are going to be pretty stacked. We don't need

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filler today. I'll tell you that. We do not need

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filler today. Yeah, I don't think so either.

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Okay, okay. I was pushing filler. Well, before

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Infamous, maybe. Yeah, maybe infamous is better.

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For my takes, I'll tell you that. And then I

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become famous for them becoming true. Right,

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guys? Yeah. Floyd Schofield. And I'll leave it

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baby. Previews. Man, it is a busy fucking weekend.

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There's two... One and a half good cards on the

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MMA side. And then there's these three here.

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Starting with the earliest. Queensberry on DAZN.

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We were talking about this being a pay -per -view.

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And if it deserves to be one. At Wembley Arena.

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There's a bunch of shit on here that I don't

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recognize. So I'm going straight to the co -main.

00:25:58.539 --> 00:26:04.819
Lawrence Okoli versus Kevin Lorena. Yeah, if

00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:06.940
you know who Lorenzo Coley is, then you probably

00:26:06.940 --> 00:26:09.759
already know more about him than I do. I've seen

00:26:09.759 --> 00:26:12.140
a few of his fights, but goddammit, is he boring.

00:26:13.680 --> 00:26:18.740
Yeah. One -two clinch? Yeah, the old Vladimir

00:26:18.740 --> 00:26:21.980
Klitschko method, except no power behind it.

00:26:23.380 --> 00:26:25.160
Pretty sure he actually is named one of the most

00:26:25.160 --> 00:26:31.119
boring boxers of boxing. Yeah, wouldn't surprise

00:26:31.119 --> 00:26:36.519
me. If he was in the top five, most boring. He

00:26:36.519 --> 00:26:39.460
probably takes the cake now, considering last

00:26:39.460 --> 00:26:42.259
week's performance. I don't know if we're going

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to talk about this podcast or the next podcast.

00:26:43.940 --> 00:26:46.500
That would be three, but... That'll be on the

00:26:46.500 --> 00:26:50.599
next one. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Lawrence

00:26:50.599 --> 00:26:54.579
Okoli. Have fun with that. Oleksandr Usyk versus

00:26:54.579 --> 00:26:58.519
Daniel Dubois. Are you both... Who do you got

00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:02.769
winning, Alex? Oh, Lord. So that's the hard thing,

00:27:02.869 --> 00:27:05.950
because I do, I love both of you guys. I love

00:27:05.950 --> 00:27:09.509
both of them, because Dubois, I've seen real

00:27:09.509 --> 00:27:12.730
heart from him these last couple fights. I've

00:27:12.730 --> 00:27:15.970
been in full support as well. But it's Usyk,

00:27:15.970 --> 00:27:18.450
man, come on. He's the king of the heavyweight

00:27:18.450 --> 00:27:21.230
division right now. He already beat Dubois. The

00:27:21.230 --> 00:27:24.309
only way I see Dubois winning is with a knockout.

00:27:24.549 --> 00:27:29.589
And I also feel like Usyk's going to win by decision

00:27:29.589 --> 00:27:31.299
as well. I don't think he's going to win with

00:27:31.299 --> 00:27:33.859
my knockout again. I feel like Dan Dubois has

00:27:33.859 --> 00:27:36.720
improved a little bit. But I feel like I just

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:38.660
had a sinking feeling in me that Dubois is going

00:27:38.660 --> 00:27:41.059
to aim for the body. He's going to go straight

00:27:41.059 --> 00:27:43.819
for the body the whole time instead of setting

00:27:43.819 --> 00:27:47.460
up traps up top, you know? That's what Leo says,

00:27:47.579 --> 00:27:52.059
too. Yeah, that was my pick. The young lion's

00:27:52.059 --> 00:27:54.720
going to figure it out. It's a tough ask, though.

00:27:56.479 --> 00:28:00.440
I've been using this one. Usyk's going to do

00:28:00.440 --> 00:28:03.940
Usyk things. And no one can figure out Usyk things.

00:28:04.400 --> 00:28:09.119
No one has yet to figure it out. Usyk is very

00:28:09.119 --> 00:28:11.799
good at adjusting. That's part of what makes

00:28:11.799 --> 00:28:15.720
him so good. But I do think Dubois is better.

00:28:16.039 --> 00:28:18.400
I was getting some flack in the chat for that.

00:28:18.480 --> 00:28:20.680
People are like, based on what? And I was like,

00:28:20.740 --> 00:28:22.759
I don't know. You think Dubois is better than

00:28:22.759 --> 00:28:26.480
Usyk? I think Dubois is better than he was in

00:28:26.480 --> 00:28:29.980
their first fight. He's shown improvement. I

00:28:29.980 --> 00:28:33.900
agree. Considerable improvement. Yeah, I forget

00:28:33.900 --> 00:28:36.900
who it was, but somebody was saying that was

00:28:36.900 --> 00:28:41.119
a bad take. That's a pretty good take, actually.

00:28:41.299 --> 00:28:44.119
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Yeah, he's shown

00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:46.700
some great improvement. I would say he's, besides

00:28:46.700 --> 00:28:48.579
Usyk, he'd probably be the best guy in the division,

00:28:48.759 --> 00:28:52.039
in my personal opinion right now. Yeah, I do

00:28:52.039 --> 00:28:55.880
think this is one and two. Yeah. Obviously, you

00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:57.680
have guys like Mosley Talma, but he's not there

00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:00.779
yet now. He's going to come up. I believe he'll

00:29:00.779 --> 00:29:03.420
be there soon. A couple years, but right now,

00:29:03.500 --> 00:29:09.059
Dubois is the best in the division. However,

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:13.099
I would say that Dubois has got a pretty good

00:29:13.099 --> 00:29:15.640
shot, though. And I think, honestly, the wait

00:29:15.640 --> 00:29:19.039
for Dubois to win might be surprising, but I

00:29:19.039 --> 00:29:21.859
think it's just to bring it to Usyk. You know,

00:29:21.900 --> 00:29:26.019
I'm kind of dumb to say, but if you just barrage

00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:30.440
Usyk with just nonstop, nonstop aggression, I

00:29:30.440 --> 00:29:31.880
think that's the way you could. Because he's

00:29:31.880 --> 00:29:34.980
also got pretty good power. Pretty great power,

00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:37.819
actually. So I think if he lands a couple on

00:29:37.819 --> 00:29:42.259
Usyk and, you know, just gives it his all, I

00:29:42.259 --> 00:29:44.680
think he could win by knockout. He needs to win

00:29:44.680 --> 00:29:47.619
by knockout. Yeah, I don't see a Dubois decision.

00:29:48.180 --> 00:29:52.009
I don't either. I think Usyk outboxes him, and

00:29:52.009 --> 00:29:56.049
Dubois' only chance is, like, landing a big shot.

00:29:56.609 --> 00:29:59.190
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. You're right.

00:29:59.369 --> 00:30:02.650
I agree with you. However, they can also rob

00:30:02.650 --> 00:30:04.849
Usyk. It is a Queensberry card. He's a Queensberry

00:30:04.849 --> 00:30:07.630
fighter. Usyk is not a Queensberry fighter. He's

00:30:07.630 --> 00:30:10.009
at the end of his reign. You know, you never

00:30:10.009 --> 00:30:12.109
know what they could do. This is boxing, bro.

00:30:12.589 --> 00:30:18.089
Yeah, they might just. I don't think they'll

00:30:18.089 --> 00:30:21.750
rob Usyk. I don't think they'll do that. They've

00:30:21.750 --> 00:30:25.450
done worse. Yeah, they have. And it's boxing.

00:30:25.930 --> 00:30:27.769
It is boxing. You can't just say, you know what

00:30:27.769 --> 00:30:29.869
I mean? It's happened many times in the past.

00:30:30.910 --> 00:30:35.190
If I were to watch that, I wouldn't be surprised.

00:30:36.289 --> 00:30:37.930
If I were to see it live, I would not be surprised

00:30:37.930 --> 00:30:40.930
at all. I would be a little surprised if they

00:30:40.930 --> 00:30:48.869
rob Usyk. He's too popular. But the point of

00:30:48.869 --> 00:30:51.109
him being at the end of his career, though, I

00:30:51.109 --> 00:30:55.490
think that's what makes it seem more of a viable

00:30:55.490 --> 00:31:02.210
possibility. Fair enough. If he had five years

00:31:02.210 --> 00:31:05.549
more left, if he had five years to fight, I think

00:31:05.549 --> 00:31:06.890
they wouldn't rob him. But since he's at the

00:31:06.890 --> 00:31:08.970
end of his reign, he's making it known. He's

00:31:08.970 --> 00:31:11.950
at the end of his reign. I feel like they would

00:31:11.950 --> 00:31:16.220
probably like all the titles in -house. You know

00:31:16.220 --> 00:31:19.720
what I mean? Because this is their chance. Fair.

00:31:20.019 --> 00:31:23.359
Yeah. Otherwise, if Usyk wins, all the titles

00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.539
get spread out amongst all these promotional

00:31:25.539 --> 00:31:28.460
companies. And it's going to take years to get

00:31:28.460 --> 00:31:32.480
them all back. I do like when the titles split,

00:31:32.680 --> 00:31:35.460
actually. Having one undisputed champion, it

00:31:35.460 --> 00:31:39.180
makes the division so slow. It makes the division

00:31:39.180 --> 00:31:43.500
slow, yes. But the promoters like when a champion

00:31:43.500 --> 00:31:45.980
does have... all the titles because it makes

00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:49.359
every fight matter with those champions no i

00:31:49.359 --> 00:31:51.619
i know what you're saying and i don't disagree

00:31:51.619 --> 00:31:54.339
i just mean me personally i would prefer if they

00:31:54.339 --> 00:31:56.500
scattered to the four corners and they had to

00:31:56.500 --> 00:31:59.559
go like collect them like the dragon balls oh

00:31:59.559 --> 00:32:03.400
yeah i 100 agree yeah i like the same the same

00:32:03.400 --> 00:32:07.759
approach like when canelo's gone i'll be happy

00:32:07.759 --> 00:32:11.019
much to love him i'll be happy because that means

00:32:11.019 --> 00:32:14.220
the division is free Canelo's also been having

00:32:14.220 --> 00:32:19.000
just boring fights lately. Oh yeah. Usyk at least

00:32:19.000 --> 00:32:21.559
is fighting the best of the best consistently.

00:32:22.140 --> 00:32:24.779
Like Usyk is doing what a unified champion should

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:32.099
do. I like the way when Inoue moved up from 118.

00:32:33.339 --> 00:32:37.099
Even though it might be a bad example just because

00:32:37.099 --> 00:32:42.869
all of the belts ended up in Japan anyway. But

00:32:42.869 --> 00:32:45.529
that's not in a way. Yeah, it's not his fault.

00:32:47.710 --> 00:32:50.210
Usyk moving up from Cruiserweight. It's another

00:32:50.210 --> 00:32:55.170
one. It's cool for it to have an apex and then

00:32:55.170 --> 00:33:00.609
to break back out. And then somebody has to recollect

00:33:00.609 --> 00:33:03.109
them, like you said. I would say probably the

00:33:03.109 --> 00:33:04.869
best example right now we have is when Charlo

00:33:04.869 --> 00:33:09.049
moved up. Bacchanal were undisputed at 168. All

00:33:09.049 --> 00:33:12.079
the titles were spread out. And now we have a

00:33:12.079 --> 00:33:17.220
fire division. On fire. Yeah, absolutely. So

00:33:17.220 --> 00:33:19.559
it's actually amazing when the title's spread

00:33:19.559 --> 00:33:25.000
out. Yeah, the power vacuum that it leaves. Yeah.

00:33:27.000 --> 00:33:31.460
Gonna skip. Gonna go to the bottom of the list.

00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:37.140
Matchroom, also on DAZN. At the Star. At the

00:33:37.140 --> 00:33:40.369
Frisco. The star at the Frisco in Frisco, Texas.

00:33:41.990 --> 00:33:46.430
What a name. Good stuff. Much better than Smoothie

00:33:46.430 --> 00:33:52.890
King. Yeah, 100%. I'm excited for this fight.

00:33:52.990 --> 00:33:55.190
Or this card, I mean. There's some good fights

00:33:55.190 --> 00:33:58.849
on here. Yeah, good one to watch out for if you're

00:33:58.849 --> 00:34:01.470
not paying attention to Nishant Dev. He's an

00:34:01.470 --> 00:34:04.029
up -and -coming Indian fighter. I think he was

00:34:04.029 --> 00:34:07.680
an Olympian. He'll be fighting Omar Rosales,

00:34:08.019 --> 00:34:12.699
Omari Jones. There's another amateur standout.

00:34:13.659 --> 00:34:17.719
He's fighting Alfredo Blanco. What's that guy's

00:34:17.719 --> 00:34:22.820
record, Alfredo Blanco? 24 and 14. That's not

00:34:22.820 --> 00:34:26.380
horrible. A real journeyman. Yeah, for his fourth

00:34:26.380 --> 00:34:31.099
fight? Yeah, it's not bad. Super experienced.

00:34:32.460 --> 00:34:38.590
He knows how to make it grimy, I bet. Sure. Diego

00:34:38.590 --> 00:34:43.050
Pacheco versus Trevor McCombie. Diego needs to

00:34:43.050 --> 00:34:44.289
win this for the culture, I'll tell you that.

00:34:44.550 --> 00:34:47.090
Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to say that.

00:34:47.530 --> 00:34:52.050
Diego needs to win for the culture. We need you

00:34:52.050 --> 00:34:55.869
right now, dude. Yeah, because if he loses to

00:34:55.869 --> 00:34:58.809
fucking Trevor McCombie, that's going to be horrible.

00:34:58.889 --> 00:35:01.449
He's going to get fucking... I don't want to

00:35:01.449 --> 00:35:06.839
say it. I wasn't going to say it, but... Isn't

00:35:06.839 --> 00:35:08.940
Pacheco American? Like, wasn't he born in the

00:35:08.940 --> 00:35:10.719
States? That does not matter. That doesn't matter.

00:35:10.800 --> 00:35:13.039
That doesn't matter. Fair enough. Fair enough.

00:35:13.119 --> 00:35:16.019
It's happening anyway. Leo, it looks like, for

00:35:16.019 --> 00:35:17.760
Leo, it looks like his background is in his room,

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:21.960
but he's actually in the attic. Yeah, in the

00:35:21.960 --> 00:35:26.380
quiet. And Frank style. Yeah. Can't like that

00:35:26.380 --> 00:35:33.679
right now. Diego Pacheco, is, Alex, I want to

00:35:33.679 --> 00:35:36.699
ask you first. How do you think Diego Pacheco

00:35:36.699 --> 00:35:39.179
is going to react to Trevor McCombie? Because

00:35:39.179 --> 00:35:41.900
McCombie has some pretty solid experience, like

00:35:41.900 --> 00:35:45.920
world title experience. And Diego Pacheco is

00:35:45.920 --> 00:35:50.760
still pretty young. I would say that he's going

00:35:50.760 --> 00:35:52.659
to do what he's always done. He's going to go

00:35:52.659 --> 00:35:54.500
out there and do the Benavidez Senior Special.

00:35:55.320 --> 00:35:58.539
Just kind of mong out a little bit. You know

00:35:58.539 --> 00:36:00.420
what I mean? Yeah, a little more energy never

00:36:00.420 --> 00:36:03.860
hurt. Yeah, exactly. He's still young to where

00:36:03.860 --> 00:36:06.539
he has been refined. And honestly, with the training

00:36:06.539 --> 00:36:08.519
camp he's in right now, or with the trainer he's

00:36:08.519 --> 00:36:12.420
with, I doubt he'll get much better. Because

00:36:12.420 --> 00:36:14.920
he's no Benavidez, you know. Right. In my opinion.

00:36:15.619 --> 00:36:18.639
And so I think that, I think he'll knock out

00:36:18.639 --> 00:36:21.019
Trevor McCombie. As Trevor McCombie was knocked

00:36:21.019 --> 00:36:23.699
out by Kayla Plant. Someone who historically

00:36:23.699 --> 00:36:28.699
hasn't had much knockout power. However, I think

00:36:28.699 --> 00:36:31.960
it'll still be kind of a Grammy fight. And I

00:36:31.960 --> 00:36:34.380
think Trevor McCombie, how tall is Trevor McCombie?

00:36:34.460 --> 00:36:37.539
Like six foot, 5 '11", somewhere around there?

00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:43.519
Six foot, according to BoxRec. And Cech was,

00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:46.780
what, 6 '3", I believe, so he does have the height

00:36:46.780 --> 00:36:48.519
advantage, I believe the reach advantage as well,

00:36:48.579 --> 00:36:55.000
so it would be a hard fight on paper, but I see

00:36:55.000 --> 00:36:58.219
it's not going to go past round eight. Round

00:36:58.219 --> 00:37:04.250
eight. It's a five -inch reach advantage. That's

00:37:04.250 --> 00:37:08.210
pretty fucking steep. That is. That is a lot.

00:37:09.369 --> 00:37:11.869
Man, I think he finishes it sooner than eight.

00:37:12.349 --> 00:37:14.389
I was a little about to say right now, I think

00:37:14.389 --> 00:37:19.730
he finishes it by around five. Five to seven.

00:37:22.670 --> 00:37:28.920
Yeah, somewhere around there. I think it's going

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:30.599
to be a fun fight. I think it's going to be a

00:37:30.599 --> 00:37:34.840
bit of a banger. Neither one of these guys is

00:37:34.840 --> 00:37:39.579
going to back up much. You know, I'm surprised

00:37:39.579 --> 00:37:44.699
that there hasn't been much media about that

00:37:44.699 --> 00:37:49.139
fight itself. I feel like a good way to sell

00:37:49.139 --> 00:37:51.079
that fight would be, you know, obviously kind

00:37:51.079 --> 00:37:53.599
of on the nose, you know. Play up to the political

00:37:53.599 --> 00:37:57.940
landscape? Yeah, but... I'm surprised they haven't

00:37:57.940 --> 00:38:01.360
done that. Yeah, me too. That would be pretty

00:38:01.360 --> 00:38:06.380
freaking funny. Is McCombie as right wing as

00:38:06.380 --> 00:38:09.219
he looks? I don't think he said that much stuff.

00:38:09.519 --> 00:38:12.539
He wears all the gear. He has a scarf and shit.

00:38:12.780 --> 00:38:19.639
He has the mullet. He's a glazer. But I will

00:38:19.639 --> 00:38:24.059
say it would be funny to see Diego Pacheco on

00:38:24.059 --> 00:38:27.519
a video where it says Humble Mexican boxer, or

00:38:27.519 --> 00:38:32.199
Mexican boxer humbles racist, racist opponent

00:38:32.199 --> 00:38:36.780
from Motividia. From Motividia. That would have

00:38:36.780 --> 00:38:39.380
been perfect, but, you know, missed opportunity

00:38:39.380 --> 00:38:42.920
to get 500 to 1 ,000 views on a Diego Pacheco

00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:50.960
fight. Oh, shit. Emma Williams, as we said, is

00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:55.099
looking for a new opponent. Leads us with Bam

00:38:55.099 --> 00:38:59.099
and Kafu. I'm not sure how we talked about this

00:38:59.099 --> 00:39:03.320
one on Boxing Before Dark. Yeah. Don't sleep

00:39:03.320 --> 00:39:06.559
on Kafu. Don't sleep on Kafu. I do think Bam

00:39:06.559 --> 00:39:10.920
wins. Yeah, of course. But this is going to be

00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:17.840
a hard fight, I think. I understand. Kafu's better

00:39:17.840 --> 00:39:22.469
than people think, and he's tough as nails. He

00:39:22.469 --> 00:39:25.530
stood up to Tanaka, and I know Tanaka's not the

00:39:25.530 --> 00:39:28.670
heaviest puncher ever, but he's got power for

00:39:28.670 --> 00:39:32.929
the weight class, for sure. I understand and

00:39:32.929 --> 00:39:37.789
agree. Kapu, people overlook Kapu. I think Bam's

00:39:37.789 --> 00:39:40.050
team themselves are kind of overlooking Kapu,

00:39:40.150 --> 00:39:43.909
which the problem is that it's actually making

00:39:43.909 --> 00:39:47.230
me worried because, as we all know, Bam and Puma

00:39:47.230 --> 00:39:49.110
are supposed to fight if he wins. Oh, that's

00:39:49.110 --> 00:39:52.969
right. And you guys know the curse with Riyadh.

00:39:53.369 --> 00:39:56.210
Actually, with any promotional company in general,

00:39:56.289 --> 00:39:58.969
where when they already have a fight lined up

00:39:58.969 --> 00:40:03.889
in the future, it never goes good. So I pray

00:40:03.889 --> 00:40:11.590
that Bam wins and gets out unscathed. But I hardly

00:40:11.590 --> 00:40:14.909
see that happening with Kafu. I think Bam's going

00:40:14.909 --> 00:40:18.210
to take some damage. I agree. This is going to

00:40:18.210 --> 00:40:19.690
be his first fight in I don't know how long.

00:40:20.280 --> 00:40:23.260
Or the guy I believe is under, I think he's like,

00:40:23.340 --> 00:40:30.719
what, 27? 26? Kafu? Yeah, he's 26. He's 26? Yeah,

00:40:30.760 --> 00:40:33.719
that's a young lion right there, dude. I brought

00:40:33.719 --> 00:40:38.460
this up, too. Like, this is his first real not

00:40:38.460 --> 00:40:41.320
-old -man fight in a while. They're about the

00:40:41.320 --> 00:40:44.519
same age. Yeah, I believe this is going to be

00:40:44.519 --> 00:40:47.320
Bam's hardest fight until Puma, of course, but

00:40:47.320 --> 00:40:49.710
it's going to be a hard fight for him. I don't

00:40:49.710 --> 00:40:52.809
even think he's going to knock him out. I think

00:40:52.809 --> 00:40:55.769
this is going to go to decision, and it's going

00:40:55.769 --> 00:40:59.250
to be a close one, I believe. Probably 8 -4.

00:41:01.030 --> 00:41:04.949
Max. Yeah, I think if Bam does get the knockout,

00:41:05.050 --> 00:41:08.230
Cafu's going to be on his feet. He's not going

00:41:08.230 --> 00:41:11.429
to lay him out. Oh, no. If he does, that would

00:41:11.429 --> 00:41:14.250
be crazy. And I know, again, it's going to be

00:41:14.250 --> 00:41:17.849
like, oh, well, nobody really knew him, but this

00:41:17.849 --> 00:41:19.980
is... I would say if he knocks out Kapu, he's

00:41:19.980 --> 00:41:21.320
going to be one of, probably his best win so

00:41:21.320 --> 00:41:24.639
far. Yeah. In his career. Because all the other

00:41:24.639 --> 00:41:28.599
guys, yeah, they're legends. You know, SSR, Estrada,

00:41:28.960 --> 00:41:33.380
Quadras. But they were all past it. Exactly.

00:41:34.940 --> 00:41:38.760
Kapu, he's young and hungry. I believe he has

00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:40.780
the opportunity, he has a chance to take Bam

00:41:40.780 --> 00:41:44.079
out. And if it goes to decision, of course, I

00:41:44.079 --> 00:41:48.659
think it's going to be given to Bam. But, If

00:41:48.659 --> 00:41:50.400
someone's going to get knocked out, it could

00:41:50.400 --> 00:42:00.340
go either way. I'm still sure Bam wins. I have

00:42:00.340 --> 00:42:03.059
faith. I think it's going to be a much harder

00:42:03.059 --> 00:42:05.559
test than everybody is kind of thinking it will

00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:09.400
be. Yeah. Kofu's being overlooked, and I think

00:42:09.400 --> 00:42:11.539
he's going to do the Michael Jordan and take

00:42:11.539 --> 00:42:17.000
it personally. The thing is, for me, actually,

00:42:17.059 --> 00:42:20.019
I have a... personal bias for bam i've been following

00:42:20.019 --> 00:42:25.679
him for years and i think that um this fight

00:42:25.679 --> 00:42:27.179
not but it's personal not that it's personal

00:42:27.179 --> 00:42:30.480
to me but it's gonna be i'm gonna be a little

00:42:30.480 --> 00:42:31.659
more stressed out for this fight specifically

00:42:31.659 --> 00:42:34.880
than all the other fights this weekend you know

00:42:34.880 --> 00:42:38.519
yeah yeah that's maybe one that's my main event

00:42:38.519 --> 00:42:41.679
of the weekend bam kafu is gonna be the best

00:42:41.679 --> 00:42:47.960
fight this weekend i think for sure Oof. Anything

00:42:47.960 --> 00:42:55.000
more for BAM and Kafu? Alright. Potential buy

00:42:55.000 --> 00:43:02.420
of the year. Potential. Yes, actually. Like you

00:43:02.420 --> 00:43:04.960
were saying, if it's going to end by knockout,

00:43:04.980 --> 00:43:06.820
it could go either way. That could be upset of

00:43:06.820 --> 00:43:09.739
the year. Just because of how unknown Kafu is.

00:43:10.400 --> 00:43:14.159
Oh, if Kafu wins, it's going to send shockwaves

00:43:14.159 --> 00:43:16.719
through fucking all the lower weight classes,

00:43:16.860 --> 00:43:23.239
I think. Yeah. All right, let's hit up PBC on

00:43:23.239 --> 00:43:27.280
Prime at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. This is

00:43:27.280 --> 00:43:30.219
a very stacked card. Although the main event

00:43:30.219 --> 00:43:33.920
is pretty shit, the rest of the card is pretty

00:43:33.920 --> 00:43:38.139
good. I don't know if this is the exact running

00:43:38.139 --> 00:43:40.610
order. But we're going to start with Brandon

00:43:40.610 --> 00:43:43.969
Figueroa versus Joette Gonzalez. You may have

00:43:43.969 --> 00:43:48.409
seen Joette Gonzalez around. He's the guy they

00:43:48.409 --> 00:43:51.050
bring around when we need a beatable opponent,

00:43:51.210 --> 00:43:56.030
but someone who's tough and looks good on paper.

00:43:57.409 --> 00:43:59.989
But he's not going to have to deal with like

00:43:59.989 --> 00:44:02.929
Stephen Fulton type of movement or anything.

00:44:04.570 --> 00:44:08.389
Should be a good night for the highlight night.

00:44:08.889 --> 00:44:12.429
For Figueroa. It's a good confidence booster.

00:44:12.909 --> 00:44:17.030
Yeah. It is. It's a solid one. It's a good guy

00:44:17.030 --> 00:44:23.389
to bring out. Isaac Cruz versus Angel Fierro.

00:44:23.510 --> 00:44:26.030
It was a dogfight last time. I'm expecting a

00:44:26.030 --> 00:44:29.210
dogfight this time. Yeah, I'm excited for this

00:44:29.210 --> 00:44:31.989
one. This is a good fight. Unless Isaac Cruz

00:44:31.989 --> 00:44:34.690
gets a jab overnight. I don't think I'm going

00:44:34.690 --> 00:44:37.670
to have another great fight. He might be allergic

00:44:37.670 --> 00:44:42.860
to them. Oh yeah, for sure. I do not see Pitbull.

00:44:44.380 --> 00:44:47.320
Pitbull with a jab is going to be crazy. Mythical

00:44:47.320 --> 00:44:50.139
status. Not going to happen. Yeah, that's mythic

00:44:50.139 --> 00:44:57.559
status. Another rematch. Sebastian Fundora versus

00:44:57.559 --> 00:45:00.780
Tim Zhu. Hopefully Tim Zhu keeps all his blood

00:45:00.780 --> 00:45:06.469
in one place. Preferably inside. Yes. What do

00:45:06.469 --> 00:45:08.789
you guys got for this one? Because I've had disagreements

00:45:08.789 --> 00:45:10.230
with everybody else. I want to see what you guys

00:45:10.230 --> 00:45:15.230
got. I don't think Tim Zhu is over the cut. I

00:45:15.230 --> 00:45:19.449
really don't. I think Tim Zhu is the better fighter.

00:45:19.829 --> 00:45:23.269
I think he can win. I think if he gets cut, his

00:45:23.269 --> 00:45:25.889
brain is going to explode, even if it's not a

00:45:25.889 --> 00:45:30.170
bad cut. If Zhu produces any blood at all, I

00:45:30.170 --> 00:45:33.269
think he loses. You think that's the PTSD trigger?

00:45:34.190 --> 00:45:39.480
Oh, 100%. the the little short thing they put

00:45:39.480 --> 00:45:43.440
out he like hadn't opened his shorts since the

00:45:43.440 --> 00:45:45.780
fight they were in a plastic bag and they made

00:45:45.780 --> 00:45:48.639
him open them on camera and like you could just

00:45:48.639 --> 00:45:52.579
one he'd never opened it i think he was avoiding

00:45:52.579 --> 00:45:55.659
it because of the like emotion and shit and he's

00:45:55.659 --> 00:45:57.900
a man so he just put it in a bag and put it in

00:45:57.900 --> 00:46:02.280
a closet and when he did open it you could like

00:46:03.019 --> 00:46:04.739
I don't know how to describe it. It's not like

00:46:04.739 --> 00:46:06.679
he cried or anything, but you could hear it in

00:46:06.679 --> 00:46:10.980
his voice. Like, just, holy shit. Like, and can

00:46:10.980 --> 00:46:14.699
you smell that? And I think it started, like,

00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:19.500
flashbacks. Oh, smell. Smells the worst sense

00:46:19.500 --> 00:46:23.000
of memory. Yeah, well, and, like, old blood.

00:46:23.420 --> 00:46:31.090
Yeah. Yeah. I think he's over it. I believe that

00:46:31.090 --> 00:46:33.610
Tim Zu, I think that if anything is going to

00:46:33.610 --> 00:46:37.869
have him shaken up more between that and Murtazaliv,

00:46:37.929 --> 00:46:41.630
I think it's the bad loss of Murtazaliv. That

00:46:41.630 --> 00:46:44.989
was like the catalyst for him to change, to get

00:46:44.989 --> 00:46:46.849
the help that he needed to get over the hurdle.

00:46:47.849 --> 00:46:51.050
Maybe. I hope so. I like Tim Zu. Yeah, he seems

00:46:51.050 --> 00:46:56.719
like a good cat. I want him to be okay, but I

00:46:56.719 --> 00:46:58.900
just, I don't know, man. I don't think he's over

00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:02.639
it. I think if he gets through this fight, he

00:47:02.639 --> 00:47:07.440
might be over it. If you know what I mean. I

00:47:07.440 --> 00:47:12.639
think so. Well, unless he gets cut again. But

00:47:12.639 --> 00:47:17.059
who do you guys have win the fight, though? I'm

00:47:17.059 --> 00:47:23.179
going with Tim. Tim? Okay. Yeah. I don't know,

00:47:23.179 --> 00:47:26.000
man. I like Fundora, too, though. Yeah, he's

00:47:26.000 --> 00:47:28.639
fun. He's a fun character. I just want everybody

00:47:28.639 --> 00:47:33.139
to have a good time in this one. I personally

00:47:33.139 --> 00:47:36.480
think that Fundora is going to lose this fight.

00:47:36.800 --> 00:47:40.320
To me, the fact that in the first fight, Simzu

00:47:40.320 --> 00:47:42.280
was winning the first three rounds pretty clearly.

00:47:43.780 --> 00:47:49.780
And I think the equalizer was the blood. That's

00:47:49.780 --> 00:47:51.480
what helped Fundora win that fight, in my opinion.

00:47:52.239 --> 00:47:55.480
I agree with that. Tim Zu was winning, for sure.

00:47:55.940 --> 00:47:58.440
So if Tim Zu can do the same thing and not get

00:47:58.440 --> 00:48:01.079
cut, I think he wins probably pretty early as

00:48:01.079 --> 00:48:04.139
well. He might just win by knockout. Again, I

00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:06.500
really like Pandora as a person. He's a great

00:48:06.500 --> 00:48:10.780
guy. But I have not seen much... I've seen a

00:48:10.780 --> 00:48:12.320
little bit of improvement, but I haven't seen

00:48:12.320 --> 00:48:14.900
much from him. Enough to where I could decisively

00:48:14.900 --> 00:48:17.780
say that he will knock out Tim Zu or beat him

00:48:17.780 --> 00:48:20.960
to decision. Because we've talked about podcasts

00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:24.829
in the past. He doesn't utilize his jab properly.

00:48:26.210 --> 00:48:27.929
And that could be because of his eyesight. I'm

00:48:27.929 --> 00:48:34.010
not too sure. By the way, he fights on the inside

00:48:34.010 --> 00:48:37.889
when he should be fighting on the outside. Yeah.

00:48:37.969 --> 00:48:39.710
And he's going to be fighting a tough fight like

00:48:39.710 --> 00:48:43.929
Tim Zhu. I don't know. I think Tim's going to

00:48:43.929 --> 00:48:47.030
try and stay on the outside this time. And I

00:48:47.030 --> 00:48:49.449
think if he can stay on the outside, he'll just

00:48:49.449 --> 00:48:54.059
outbox Fandora. That's what he was doing last

00:48:54.059 --> 00:48:56.199
time. Tim Zu was staying on the outside last

00:48:56.199 --> 00:49:00.179
time. Yeah, and until the... Yeah, unfortunately

00:49:00.179 --> 00:49:03.940
until the cut, but... Yeah, I think Tim Zu takes

00:49:03.940 --> 00:49:07.019
it this weekend, unfortunately. And again, I

00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:10.159
like Tim Zu as well. He's like a good guy, you

00:49:10.159 --> 00:49:13.260
know? He doesn't seem like a... You know, like

00:49:13.260 --> 00:49:16.280
other fellas. He's not very McCombish. Yeah,

00:49:16.320 --> 00:49:17.840
he's not very McCombish, you know? He's not very

00:49:17.840 --> 00:49:21.239
Takish. He seems like a good fella. You know?

00:49:21.610 --> 00:49:24.690
So whoever wins, I would be happy with it. You

00:49:24.690 --> 00:49:28.389
know? But for me, Pandora is a lot more local

00:49:28.389 --> 00:49:31.409
than Tim Zoo. So I got to root for my guy, you

00:49:31.409 --> 00:49:39.889
know? Fair enough. Man. Mario Barrios versus

00:49:39.889 --> 00:49:47.289
Manny Pacquiao. Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness. So

00:49:47.289 --> 00:49:50.519
did you see the rumors? That I hope are just

00:49:50.519 --> 00:49:55.280
unsubstantiated rumors of if Pacquiao wins, Mayweather's

00:49:55.280 --> 00:50:01.519
coming out of retirement. Yes, I did see that.

00:50:03.840 --> 00:50:06.179
I can see it happening, dude. And honestly, that

00:50:06.179 --> 00:50:08.219
would be... I can see it happening. I can too.

00:50:09.699 --> 00:50:12.099
Mayweather's been doing exhibitions for God knows

00:50:12.099 --> 00:50:15.420
how long. I don't know. I think that if Manny

00:50:15.420 --> 00:50:18.789
Pacquiao wins, that's guaranteed to happen. Because

00:50:18.789 --> 00:50:22.230
it's the PBC, and the PBC loves good Mayweather

00:50:22.230 --> 00:50:26.369
promotion. Yeah. They haven't had one in years,

00:50:26.389 --> 00:50:29.010
and they're excited. They're biting their nails

00:50:29.010 --> 00:50:32.530
with that right there. And honestly, if they

00:50:32.530 --> 00:50:34.010
do that, it's going to be worse than the first.

00:50:35.130 --> 00:50:38.409
Guaranteed. Oh, absolutely. Two old men fighting

00:50:38.409 --> 00:50:41.530
each other. Like Roy Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson.

00:50:41.829 --> 00:50:43.750
I was just going to say, it's going to be Roy

00:50:43.750 --> 00:50:50.059
Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson. Roy looked just completely

00:50:50.059 --> 00:50:53.579
unable to operate. He was trying to move his

00:50:53.579 --> 00:50:56.039
body and it was not moving the way that he wanted

00:50:56.039 --> 00:50:59.440
it to. Roy's knees are fucked. Yeah, absolutely.

00:51:00.480 --> 00:51:05.599
Whereas Mike, you could see shades of what he

00:51:05.599 --> 00:51:10.260
used to be. I'm expecting Manny Pacquiao to be

00:51:10.260 --> 00:51:15.280
more like Roy in this scenario. I don't think

00:51:15.280 --> 00:51:18.179
Pacquiao is going to be able to beat Barrios.

00:51:19.219 --> 00:51:23.019
No. I don't see a way that old man Pacquiao does.

00:51:23.219 --> 00:51:27.780
I know Barrios isn't that good, but he's not

00:51:27.780 --> 00:51:30.199
fucking ancient, and he's good enough that he

00:51:30.199 --> 00:51:34.820
picked up a title. The thing with Barrios is

00:51:34.820 --> 00:51:39.019
that Barrios in his last fight was a dog. You

00:51:39.019 --> 00:51:42.679
guys remember the Ramos fight with Barrios? Yeah.

00:51:43.079 --> 00:51:46.059
Abel Ramos, yeah. So the thing is that Pacquiao

00:51:46.059 --> 00:51:50.619
needs to knock him out. The problem is, can Pacquiao

00:51:50.619 --> 00:51:53.739
really knock out Barrios when Pacquiao, even

00:51:53.739 --> 00:51:56.599
when he was fighting at 147, couldn't really

00:51:56.599 --> 00:52:00.940
knock out many, many people? I mean, I believe

00:52:00.940 --> 00:52:05.280
it was, what, he only knocked out four? Wait,

00:52:05.320 --> 00:52:06.800
I don't know if I'm getting this number right.

00:52:07.019 --> 00:52:09.079
Because for years and years and years, he wasn't

00:52:09.079 --> 00:52:10.340
able to knock somebody out. I don't know if you

00:52:10.340 --> 00:52:13.190
guys can... Help me clarify this. I'm looking

00:52:13.190 --> 00:52:19.650
at for his 147 time. He doesn't have that many

00:52:19.650 --> 00:52:22.909
fights at 147. He's got, as far as I can tell,

00:52:22.929 --> 00:52:25.909
one knockout against someone I don't recognize.

00:52:26.570 --> 00:52:30.110
Lucas. Oh, I do recognize Lucas Matisse. I just

00:52:30.110 --> 00:52:35.530
couldn't read his name properly. Matisse. But

00:52:35.530 --> 00:52:40.050
Lucas Matisse isn't great. No. No, but I think,

00:52:40.070 --> 00:52:42.309
as far as I can see, that's the only person he

00:52:42.309 --> 00:52:45.349
knocked out at... Well, that was 146, but...

00:52:45.349 --> 00:52:52.630
That's just what he weighed in. Either way, I

00:52:52.630 --> 00:52:56.309
believe that Pacquiao would need to knock out

00:52:56.309 --> 00:53:00.389
Barrios within the first four rounds. No fucking

00:53:00.389 --> 00:53:04.510
way Pacquiao is going 12 rounds. I don't foresee

00:53:04.510 --> 00:53:07.489
that either. Oh, I can see the back. I can see

00:53:07.489 --> 00:53:10.460
him... Going 12 if Barrios... Carries him. Wets

00:53:10.460 --> 00:53:12.940
him. Yeah, carries him. Because he's no legend.

00:53:12.980 --> 00:53:15.980
You know how they always do. But the thing is

00:53:15.980 --> 00:53:20.679
that I really want Pacquiao to win. I truly do.

00:53:20.719 --> 00:53:24.280
Why? Why do you want Pacquiao to win? Let me

00:53:24.280 --> 00:53:27.880
tell you why. Because Barrios, as a champion,

00:53:28.099 --> 00:53:32.019
he hasn't done much. He's fought in the last

00:53:32.019 --> 00:53:34.179
year. But in the last year, he's fought Abel

00:53:34.179 --> 00:53:38.829
Ramos. And I believe he fought last May with

00:53:38.829 --> 00:53:45.230
Baby Maidana. Baby Maidana was just... He got

00:53:45.230 --> 00:53:48.789
obliterated on top rank. And Abel Ramos, while

00:53:48.789 --> 00:53:51.590
that was a great fight, they haven't done anything

00:53:51.590 --> 00:53:54.110
with him since. So with Barrios, they're kind

00:53:54.110 --> 00:53:57.690
of keeping him in the... What's not the closet?

00:53:57.829 --> 00:53:59.090
What's the word? They're just keeping him in

00:53:59.090 --> 00:54:01.550
the storage box, you know? Until they need someone

00:54:01.550 --> 00:54:05.000
to fill up a card. Okay, but let's say... Pacquiao

00:54:05.000 --> 00:54:08.099
does win, then what happens? He fights Mayweather

00:54:08.099 --> 00:54:11.800
and whoever that is is the title holder. Hold

00:54:11.800 --> 00:54:14.139
up, hold up, hold up. Let me finish, let me finish.

00:54:14.500 --> 00:54:18.000
I also want Pacquiao to win because that would

00:54:18.000 --> 00:54:20.780
just be probably one of the greatest comebacks

00:54:20.780 --> 00:54:24.880
in boxing history. I mean, come on. That's probably

00:54:24.880 --> 00:54:27.460
the best comeback since Foreman, I would say.

00:54:28.539 --> 00:54:31.880
Gotta be. To knock out a reigning champion, a

00:54:31.880 --> 00:54:34.659
guy that is in his prime, you know? The only

00:54:34.659 --> 00:54:36.340
thing is that this is a lighter weight class,

00:54:36.539 --> 00:54:39.840
and Pacquiao is not like Foreman at all. So I

00:54:39.840 --> 00:54:41.920
would say if Pacquiao does win against Barrios,

00:54:42.000 --> 00:54:47.659
that will be the greatest win. Hot take. Hot

00:54:47.659 --> 00:54:49.920
take. That would be even crazier than Foreman

00:54:49.920 --> 00:54:55.019
beating Michael Moore. Woof. That is indeed a

00:54:55.019 --> 00:54:59.639
hot take. No, I'm with Alex on this one, because

00:54:59.639 --> 00:55:03.420
Foreman had his, like... Second career and worked

00:55:03.420 --> 00:55:07.739
up to it. He didn't go away for six years and

00:55:07.739 --> 00:55:10.260
then come back. Yeah, okay. I see what you mean.

00:55:11.219 --> 00:55:14.360
Like, like, George Foreman earned that title

00:55:14.360 --> 00:55:18.380
shot and he earned that fight. He earned, oh,

00:55:18.380 --> 00:55:21.019
not that fight. He earned that win by knocking

00:55:21.019 --> 00:55:23.219
him out. But the thing is, Foreman is a mythical

00:55:23.219 --> 00:55:28.139
fighter. He had godly power. That was the equalizer

00:55:28.139 --> 00:55:30.650
in that fight was the power of Foreman. The thing

00:55:30.650 --> 00:55:34.369
is that this is a lighter weight class. At 147,

00:55:34.610 --> 00:55:37.269
I mean, as much as we can talk about Barrios

00:55:37.269 --> 00:55:41.769
not being, you know, good with his feet, he's

00:55:41.769 --> 00:55:44.550
still young. So he can move. He has good reflexes,

00:55:44.550 --> 00:55:47.630
though. He can move out the way. Pacquiao, he

00:55:47.630 --> 00:55:52.190
can't punch like he used to. He can't be on balance.

00:55:52.429 --> 00:55:56.289
He can't be balanced as he used to. So I would

00:55:56.289 --> 00:55:57.789
say if he didn't knock out Barrios, that would

00:55:57.789 --> 00:56:01.599
be the greatest... comeback, the greatest boxing

00:56:01.599 --> 00:56:03.920
comeback in God knows how long, probably ever.

00:56:05.639 --> 00:56:08.840
Yeah, I don't disagree. I just don't want Pacquiao

00:56:08.840 --> 00:56:13.119
to win, because then what happens? Like, what's

00:56:13.119 --> 00:56:17.079
accomplished? I would say that if Pacquiao and

00:56:17.079 --> 00:56:19.820
Mayweather do fight, that does bring a lot of

00:56:19.820 --> 00:56:21.760
viewers to the sport, and I understand that,

00:56:21.800 --> 00:56:25.099
yeah, it's not the best fight to have people

00:56:25.099 --> 00:56:27.139
watch, but at the same time, that could give

00:56:27.139 --> 00:56:29.780
opportunities to put Other fighters on the other

00:56:29.780 --> 00:56:33.579
card of that. You know. Okay. A spotlight to.

00:56:33.860 --> 00:56:38.119
A lot of young fighters. Like. If Mayweather

00:56:38.119 --> 00:56:40.980
wins. I can see Mayweather retiring with a title.

00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:43.880
But Pacquiao is not going to retire while he

00:56:43.880 --> 00:56:47.760
has a belt. Ever. That's just not in Pacquiao's

00:56:47.760 --> 00:56:52.460
head. So. Who. Do you. Put up against Pacquiao

00:56:52.460 --> 00:56:55.800
next. Well you would put Mayweather up with him.

00:56:56.139 --> 00:56:58.090
That's the thing. That's what. They probably

00:56:58.090 --> 00:57:00.489
would do. And if not, they'd probably do... And

00:57:00.489 --> 00:57:03.730
then Mayweather wins the... They'd probably do...

00:57:03.730 --> 00:57:07.610
Rowley beats old man Pacquiao badly. I don't

00:57:07.610 --> 00:57:11.329
care what anyone says. That would be crazy if...

00:57:11.329 --> 00:57:17.849
No, he would fucking kill Pacquiao. Like, literally

00:57:17.849 --> 00:57:21.070
kill Pacquiao. The thing with Barrios is that

00:57:21.070 --> 00:57:25.170
it's... To me, it's just that people are looking...

00:57:26.280 --> 00:57:31.380
We do not really appreciate the skill of Barrios.

00:57:31.519 --> 00:57:33.659
He doesn't have much, but he's still a young

00:57:33.659 --> 00:57:38.659
fighter. That's the issue. He doesn't have much

00:57:38.659 --> 00:57:42.139
skill, but he's still a young fighter. And he's

00:57:42.139 --> 00:57:44.699
still world -class. Whatever anyone wants to

00:57:44.699 --> 00:57:49.199
say, he's a world -class fighter. It says more

00:57:49.199 --> 00:57:52.360
about the division than it does about Barrios.

00:57:54.219 --> 00:57:57.119
And the thing is that as much as we could talk

00:57:57.119 --> 00:57:59.300
shit about his skill, the one thing about that

00:57:59.300 --> 00:58:03.019
man that will save him in that fight is his heart.

00:58:03.840 --> 00:58:07.059
As we saw with April Ramos, he got up. He did

00:58:07.059 --> 00:58:10.400
get up. And so if Pacquiao doesn't knock him

00:58:10.400 --> 00:58:14.719
out, it's over. It's over for Pacquiao. But I

00:58:14.719 --> 00:58:17.820
do want to root for Pacquiao to win. I understand

00:58:17.820 --> 00:58:20.699
it's kind of silly to say that, but he's a legend.

00:58:21.119 --> 00:58:22.699
I'm going to root for the guy I grew up watching.

00:58:24.429 --> 00:58:28.210
Fair enough, but I just think it's a waste of

00:58:28.210 --> 00:58:32.110
time. You never know. You honestly never know.

00:58:33.289 --> 00:58:35.789
No, but I'm saying even if Pacquiao wins, it's

00:58:35.789 --> 00:58:40.010
a waste of time. How many eyes do you think it

00:58:40.010 --> 00:58:43.309
will bring back to the sport is my thing. It

00:58:43.309 --> 00:58:45.710
will bring some amount of eyes back to the sport

00:58:45.710 --> 00:58:49.309
if Pacquiao wins again. And that kind of does

00:58:49.309 --> 00:58:51.909
suck that it has to happen like this if it were

00:58:51.909 --> 00:58:56.690
to bring people back, but... But it will. If

00:58:56.690 --> 00:58:59.730
Pacquiao beats Barrios, Barrios better retire.

00:59:01.150 --> 00:59:06.849
You have to. He better fucking stop boxing. Yeah,

00:59:06.869 --> 00:59:09.550
that would be unfortunate. Because the only person

00:59:09.550 --> 00:59:15.389
to knock out Barrios is Tank. Yes. Uga has put

00:59:15.389 --> 00:59:17.630
him both to ass, but he didn't knock him out.

00:59:18.590 --> 00:59:24.679
Thurman? Thurman. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Thurman. Thurman.

00:59:24.719 --> 00:59:27.000
Thurman. Thurman didn't knock him out, though,

00:59:27.000 --> 00:59:30.159
right? He did not. Yeah. Tank was the only one

00:59:30.159 --> 00:59:35.619
to knock him out. So, you can take that as you

00:59:35.619 --> 00:59:38.039
will, you know. Those Pacquiao, those old man

00:59:38.039 --> 00:59:41.619
Pacquiao, still have the power to put him out.

00:59:42.219 --> 00:59:44.639
Old man Pacquiao is going to look like shit.

00:59:45.619 --> 00:59:48.599
And it's going to make everyone sad, is what's

00:59:48.599 --> 00:59:50.840
going to happen. It's going to be, realistically,

00:59:51.239 --> 00:59:54.900
it is going to be another Jake Paul, Mike Tyson

00:59:54.900 --> 01:00:04.079
fight. You know, it is going to be sad. But I

01:00:04.079 --> 01:00:10.059
pray it's not. I just hope everyone has a good

01:00:10.059 --> 01:00:14.159
time. Well, at least we got Bam. Yeah, we got

01:00:14.159 --> 01:00:17.710
Bam. I'll bite my fingers for that. It sucks

01:00:17.710 --> 01:00:21.070
that they're going head -to -head. Oh, are they

01:00:21.070 --> 01:00:24.929
at the same time? Yeah, just about. It would

01:00:24.929 --> 01:00:26.530
have been better to put at least one of those

01:00:26.530 --> 01:00:28.829
cards in the following week because what the

01:00:28.829 --> 01:00:31.349
hell is in the following week? Top break, but...

01:00:31.349 --> 01:00:34.469
August 3rd. You could have saved one of those

01:00:34.469 --> 01:00:38.190
fights for August 3rd. No, July 26th definitely

01:00:38.190 --> 01:00:42.690
needs some help. Yeah. It still has Zayas Perez,

01:00:42.989 --> 01:00:45.230
but not many people are going to watch that,

01:00:45.309 --> 01:00:51.239
you know? July 26th, I'll be at Ryzen. So, no

01:00:51.239 --> 01:00:54.480
good boxing that day. Yeah, there's not a lot.

01:00:55.800 --> 01:01:02.900
Anything more for the PBC paper? No. I would

01:01:02.900 --> 01:01:05.659
like to say shame on Marisa Suleiman for putting

01:01:05.659 --> 01:01:09.539
this fight on. Yeah. Absolutely. That was just

01:01:09.539 --> 01:01:13.940
a dogshit move. Yeah. You're screwing over all

01:01:13.940 --> 01:01:16.500
these other fighters? that have worked their

01:01:16.500 --> 01:01:21.739
way up the division and fought tough fights just

01:01:21.739 --> 01:01:23.599
for old man Pacquiao to come back. As much as

01:01:23.599 --> 01:01:27.639
I say I would want Pacquiao to win, again, I

01:01:27.639 --> 01:01:29.980
only want that just because it would bring ice

01:01:29.980 --> 01:01:32.480
to the sport, but realistically, it's ridiculous

01:01:32.480 --> 01:01:34.219
that it's happening in the first place. It would

01:01:34.219 --> 01:01:38.400
also be pretty funny. Yeah. At least have Pacquiao

01:01:38.400 --> 01:01:42.300
show that he's not completely washed. Like, have

01:01:42.300 --> 01:01:45.679
him have a tune -up. He's had exhibition fights.

01:01:45.760 --> 01:01:48.480
That's the issue. Did you see his last exhibition?

01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:51.380
He looked terrible. Yeah, he looked terrible.

01:01:51.800 --> 01:01:57.420
Now, I would say hopefully if he does it better,

01:01:57.539 --> 01:02:03.300
he'll survive. I said this on the other one.

01:02:03.480 --> 01:02:07.519
If Barrios actually really hurts Manny or kills

01:02:07.519 --> 01:02:13.320
him, it's Suleiman's fault. I mean, we'll see

01:02:13.320 --> 01:02:14.820
what happens. I don't think Barrios is going

01:02:14.820 --> 01:02:18.099
to kill him. That might be too much. Nobody thinks

01:02:18.099 --> 01:02:21.159
that. It is boxing, but at the same time, I don't

01:02:21.159 --> 01:02:23.760
think Barrios is going to wield the power to

01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:28.099
kill someone like Manny Pacquiao. He's a 47 -year

01:02:28.099 --> 01:02:31.119
-old man. He's an old man now. With a lot of

01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:36.500
damage. It's not like Pacquiao's not like Mayweather

01:02:36.500 --> 01:02:39.739
where he didn't take damage. Pacquiao's been

01:02:39.739 --> 01:02:41.159
in some wars. You're right. Pacquiao's been in

01:02:41.159 --> 01:02:45.150
many wars. He got fucking turned off by Marquez.

01:02:45.969 --> 01:02:50.050
Like, that leaves some sort of damage. I don't

01:02:50.050 --> 01:02:56.690
care who you are. Oh, no. Formal. Greed. Greed

01:02:56.690 --> 01:03:01.090
is what makes this sport drive. Apparently. And

01:03:01.090 --> 01:03:05.050
unfortunately, Mauricio Suleiman is gonna put

01:03:05.050 --> 01:03:08.250
that at the forefront on this weekend. Yeah,

01:03:08.269 --> 01:03:10.889
of course. He's gotta make his business money.

01:03:13.819 --> 01:03:20.940
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to snag some threads. Intro and outro music by

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the one you just listened to, go to lvxmedia

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.net. Right there. So we're heading into a packed

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July 19th weekend. Parting words. Everyone should

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try a new drink this weekend. Of some sort. Just

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something different. You might like it. Get a

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new beer. Yeah. I tried... So they have strawberry

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milk here in Japan, which I really like. But

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I tried melon milk. Not that good. But I'm glad

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I tried it. I would say, let's go Dubois. Hopefully,

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he can win. Or hopefully, if a fight goes the

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distance. Let's go Bam. Hopefully, he'll lose

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a fight. Hopefully, he can fight Riyad and fight

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Puma, which will be legendary. And as much bullshit

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as we talk, I would love to see Matt and Pacquiao

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come out of it unscathed. Oh, unscathed, yes.

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It's the best anyone could hope for, is that

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he comes out okay. Yeah. Get the applesauce ready,

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Jinky. That's a tough video. Yeah, yeah. Alright,

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well, if that's it, then that's it for this edition

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of the Boxing B -Sides. See you on the other

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side.