The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
Let's get into this shit. The Boxing B -Sides
are back, baby. Up in your ears, I'm joined by
the one and only Alex. How are you doing, bud?
Doing great. How about you? Living the pizza
dream. Well, what pizza dream am I talking about?
You'll have to go to Patreon to find out. Shanada,
how are you? I am good. It's raining cats and
dogs here today, and I got so wet walking to
work today. It's gross. nothing worse than wet
clothes all day oh being yeah having to walk
around in them too yeah oh shit let's just quickly
some mma stuff extending the the branch of friendship
to the ultimate effing casuals uh coming up this
weekend there's the pfl champion series in africa
so PFL, the way PFL is structured, it has regional
scenes like in Middle East, North Africa, the
Arab world. There's Europe, and now they're breaking
into Africa. So I think this is the kickoff for
that. So expect to see more Francis Ngannou at
the forefront since he's like the COO of that,
I think. But good fights. At least two of them.
Johnny Eblen. Versus Costello Van Stenis. That
should be enjoyable. Evelyn comes to Rumble.
And Dakota Ditcheva. So the women's flyweight.
If you don't like grappling, you're going to
love Dakota Ditcheva. She just throws a shitload
of punches. And then throws knees and elbows
in as well. It's pretty fun. Nice. and UFC 318
at the Smoothie King Center. Excellent name.
This one's in New Orleans. It's the retirement
of Dustin Poirier. He's going out with a bang,
fighting Max Holloway. This should be fireworks
as well. How are we going to get the Smoothie
King? Oh, yeah. The Smoothie King Center. What
news is out there? I know some shit just popped
up, but I didn't track it. We really need to
make Vom our news guy. Yeah. I've been meaning
to talk to him, because the way he does the PDF,
or not PDF, the Excel for the Pick League, it's
way too phenomenal. That's something he does
for a living, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, that was
what he had mentioned to me when we talked about
it briefly. Taylor Serrano 3 averaged 6 million
viewers. That seems pretty good. That is really
good. That's really cool. And for a women's fight
too? Yeah, exactly. That's amazing for women's
boxing. It was not pay -per -view though, right?
Just regular Netflix? Yeah, just Netflix subscription.
I really think they'd get more eyes on boxing
if they made less cards pay -per -view. Yeah.
It's unfortunate that one of the ones this weekend,
well, two of them are fucking pay -per -view.
Well, I agree to a sense, but I think it also
really matters the platform. I think if boxing
wants to thrive again, it should be on a more
popular platform like Netflix or even HBO Max,
anything like that, you know? And no pay -per
-view as well. That would bring a lot of eyes.
Yeah, like it used to just be on TV when boxing
was popular. That's true. It was. Oh, what the
hell is this? Gabriel Rosado is fighting on August
2nd on Marv Nation? Yeah, Marv Nation is kind
of a... I thought they were a joke, but they've
turned themselves into something serious. Ish.
Yeah, serious -ish. I kind of respect the grind,
you know? Yeah. They got some people, you know?
Yeah. I just don't want Gabe fighting anymore.
Just go be a commentator. He's good at it. He
is good at it. He's got a great voice. I haven't
seen him at many jobs recently, so actually,
maybe he's got a fight. Make some money a little
bit. Make some bills. No, he was commentating.
I guess not the big cards. They put him on the
smaller DAZN cards, though. That's what I'm saying.
I haven't seen him on the bigger ones. Because
he used to be pretty frequently on the Golden
Boy cards. Yeah, that's true. Now I barely even
see him. He's on the very obscure ones. i'm not
seeing anything new just a lot of talk of the
cards that just passed did uh did you guys talk
about gervonta's crash out on this one we have
not i know me and you talked about it but alex
what do you think about tank being mad his toddler
is gay well that's a bunch of layers to unfold
with that whole situation i will say however
just The whole situation going down in general
is horrible. But it's not like it has happened
in the past. Well, this is kind of his third
strike, isn't it? Yeah, I mean, this is pretty
much expected from Javante, which is really sad,
honestly, with the image that gives him. But
at the same time, that's something that we shouldn't
encourage. Oh, no, like, definitely not encouraging.
I think it's one of the dumbest reasons to crash
out I've heard in a very long time. Is that even
true, that you crashed out because a toddler
was gay? Is that actually true? That's what the
baby mama says. I did go and find, like, actual
articles where she's quoted as saying that's
the reason. That's just, that's nuts, dude. So
he's got to get some help. I guess still kind
of hearsay because it's her word. It's just her
word. But I mean, I could see it. I mean, yeah,
I mean, he's done in the past multiple times.
I believe her for sure. Yeah. I guess he's going
to be ducking Roshi again. Oh, 100 percent. He
doesn't want to try to avenge his L. I'm not
even trying to be funny. I mean, sometimes I
just feel like boxers do shit just to get out
of a fight, you know? I don't know. You guys
ever think of that? No, I definitely think that
sometimes. Yeah. I don't know. But I condemn
him. I hope he gets help somehow. But I don't
know. I don't want to go off on a Gervonta rant
right now. Fair enough. Yeah, at least let's
see how it develops a little bit more. Yeah.
We'll talk a little more later on. Austin...
Ammo Williams needs a new opponent for this weekend.
It's... Change your pick league picks to knockout.
I think Lom said he was gonna just scrap that
whole fight. Yeah. Reasonable. I haven't done
my picks yet. This is a hard week. A lot of close
fights. There's a lot of fights. I don't know
who the people are, so I just have to pick a
name. Yeah, I don't know who Usyk and Dubois
are. I don't know who Ham and Toppio are. Fucking
Ham and Eggers. Who the fuck is Pacquiao? That
undercard, though, for Usyk -Dubois is not great.
No. Like, other than those two and Akoli, I...
don't know who anyone is it's pretty atrocious
for a pay -per -view as well yeah that one i'm
surprised is a full price pay -per -view it's
not worth it well it would make sense for the
pay -per -view being like the uk however for
the united states i don't think anybody's gonna
pay for that you're just gonna legally stream
it unfortunately i may have paid for it when
i got ring three because it came it was like
50 off The bundle? Yeah, so might as well. Might
as well. Support Usyk as he heads off into retirement,
hopefully. Hopefully. I doubt this. We'll talk
about it right now, but I doubt this is going
to be his retirement fight. So yeah, we'll see
if Admiral Williams comes up with anything. I'll
probably post on the socials or something. Once
we get word of a new opponent. If we get a new
opponent. But this is his fight. Since he's not
fighting anymore, I guess we can kind of get
into it now. This is his fight lining up. This
is a lineup for Janabek. Crazy, actually. That
is absolutely insane. Ammo Williams gets fucking
murdered if he fights Janabek. He already got
murdered by Shiraz. I would say that Janabek
does worse. Yeah. Faster, for sure. But we'll
see with that. If he even fights Janabek, you
know, because you know how they always dig Janabek.
Janabek's good. And the casuals don't know who
the fuck he is. So the risk -reward is not there.
It's actually a shame that they haven't marketed
him well. I feel like he would be a perfect Riyadh
season fighter. He's exciting. And top rank isn't
doing business with Riyadh, as far as I know.
They are. They do some. They have Abdullah and
Norman fighting on the same card. Oh, you're
right. They do work with Riyadh. In a way, it's
kind of top rank. Half. Half and half. It is
Eye of the Tiger. That is kind of a different
situation. You guys are right. Let's get into
the fucking recaps here. Alright. Jack Catterall
versus Harlem Eubank. Pre -seeded by Joe Cordina.
Getting a nice little win. Other than that, I
don't see anybody. Sky Nicholson was on the card,
so that's fun. She got a knockout. Ready? Yeah.
Good for Mrs. Hearn here. I think they're on
the out. I think Eddie's wife maybe put a stop
to that. No. Nah. Nah, there's a lot less pictures
of them together and stuff. I think Eddie's wife
was like, at least be more discreet. If you're
gonna fucking dishonor me. Yeah. At least pretend
you're hiding it. Joe Cordina was a UD. but he
cruised WBO. I thought Cordina looked good. Yeah,
he's up at 135 now, so it's kind of a tough ask
for him to get into a title picture. He's got
this WBO one lined up, so what, Abdullah Mason
versus Sam Noakes. We have a pretty good idea
of how that's going to go. I don't see Cordina
having too much success over Abdullah Mason.
Maybe better than Sandbox. Cordina versus Noakes
after might be cool. Yeah, that's not bad. They're
both British. Who put the British audience? I
don't know if I'm going to watch that too much.
I like Joe Cordina. I'm not sure why, but I do.
He's fun. Don't kid yourself, Alex. You know
you're going to be up on Saturday morning watching
it with the rest of us. All the other degenerates.
You're right. You're right. And heading off...
What the hell was that? To finish it off, Jack
Catterall versus Harlem Eubank. That was a sloppy
fight until that weird situation with the cuts.
Yeah. Did you watch this one, Alex? The Harlem...
I didn't have the opportunity to. Ah. So, Jack
Catterall did the Tank Davis and ran up to his
corner in the middle of the fight and it came
up and, like, white blood off his face. It was
crazy. Well, I don't like this. It's a new trend.
Yeah, fighters need to start getting disqualified,
I think. Yeah, it's starting. Starting. Well,
I mean, the rule's pretty clear. I mean, change
it to allow the coaches to be up on the apron
like a tag team partner the whole time. Just,
like, waving the towel at them. Like, if you
need a brush off, come on and get one. Rubbing
a little Vaseline if they can get far enough
away to avoid punches for two minutes. Yeah.
People just call in timeouts so they can wipe
sweat out of their eyes. God, that's just completely
ridiculous. At least for this, it was blood.
It's a little bit more understandable than...
Yeah, I bet you Tim Zhu wanted to call timeout
so he could wipe blood off his face. Jesus. So,
the weird situation for Alex, for you, since
you weren't able to see it. They had a very nasty
headbutt, and both of them came away with cuts.
Jack Catterall's was considerably worse. But
Harlem Eubanks still had one. Not the worst cut
you've ever seen. They go back to the corners.
And then the referee has both doctors check both
fighters. Now, Jack Catterall, like to the cut
man's credit, he did a really good job with it.
And the doctor decided that the considerably
worse cut was good to go. If you want to continue,
go ahead. But then Harlem Eubanks cut his doc
stops the fight. for who knows what the fuck
reason. Well, I'm 100 % sure that Eubanks Dr.
Cut stopped the fight for Catterall's Cut, and
I don't know how the fuck that works, but...
It's all very confusing. Yeah, it was all very
confusing. The commentators were confused for
a while, too. I don't think anybody really understood
what the fuck was happening. She stopped it for
Catterall's Cut? Well... I mean, she must have,
right? Yeah. Eubanks cut wasn't bad enough. No,
it wasn't. Like Eubanks cut was pretty reasonable
for, for boxing cuts. It wasn't in a bad spot.
It was like above the eye, but kind of out to
the corner. Catterall just like opened up his
whole eyelid. It was pretty gross. Yeah, like
that one where you can kind of see the fat underneath.
It was a bad cut. Yeah, it was pretty nasty.
But just a confusing situation. I don't understand
how the doctors ran that one. Also, Jack Catterall
still sucks. He's not very good. He's kind of
boring. No, I don't like watching Jack Catterall.
Like, to be honest. I don't think anybody does.
Like, I don't know any Catterall fans that aren't
just because they're from his hometown. If anybody
honestly told me that, like, Jack Catterall was
their favorite fighter and they didn't know him
personally or have some connection, I would...
I would be very shocked and confused as to why
the fuck. I was thinking confusion. I might know
one person. I know one person, but... Really?
One person. Who's genuinely a fan of his? They
might be. They might be. Are you talking about
Lynn? Lynn is not a fan. Okay, because she's
like a fan of whoever's British. Yeah. I don't
think specifically Caterall. Specifically anti
-Caterall. I also wasn't really aware that Harlem
Eubank is related to the other Eubanks. He's
the cousin of Chris. Chris. The other guy. Is
there more than just those two? I think there's
one more Eubank. Are you sure? Huh. If I'm thinking
the right person. That's already a little bit
more time than this card kind of deserves. Yeah,
but we kind of need some filler. Well, the previews
are going to be pretty stacked. We don't need
filler today. I'll tell you that. We do not need
filler today. Yeah, I don't think so either.
Okay, okay. I was pushing filler. Well, before
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peaking here. I'm feeling good. I'm locked in,
baby. Previews. Man, it is a busy fucking weekend.
There's two... One and a half good cards on the
MMA side. And then there's these three here.
Starting with the earliest. Queensberry on DAZN.
We were talking about this being a pay -per -view.
And if it deserves to be one. At Wembley Arena.
There's a bunch of shit on here that I don't
recognize. So I'm going straight to the co -main.
Lawrence Okoli versus Kevin Lorena. Yeah, if
you know who Lorenzo Coley is, then you probably
already know more about him than I do. I've seen
a few of his fights, but goddammit, is he boring.
Yeah. One -two clinch? Yeah, the old Vladimir
Klitschko method, except no power behind it.
Pretty sure he actually is named one of the most
boring boxers of boxing. Yeah, wouldn't surprise
me. If he was in the top five, most boring. He
probably takes the cake now, considering last
week's performance. I don't know if we're going
to talk about this podcast or the next podcast.
That would be three, but... That'll be on the
next one. Okay. I just wanted to make sure. Lawrence
Okoli. Have fun with that. Oleksandr Usyk versus
Daniel Dubois. Are you both... Who do you got
winning, Alex? Oh, Lord. So that's the hard thing,
because I do, I love both of you guys. I love
both of them, because Dubois, I've seen real
heart from him these last couple fights. I've
been in full support as well. But it's Usyk,
man, come on. He's the king of the heavyweight
division right now. He already beat Dubois. The
only way I see Dubois winning is with a knockout.
And I also feel like Usyk's going to win by decision
as well. I don't think he's going to win with
my knockout again. I feel like Dan Dubois has
improved a little bit. But I feel like I just
had a sinking feeling in me that Dubois is going
to aim for the body. He's going to go straight
for the body the whole time instead of setting
up traps up top, you know? That's what Leo says,
too. Yeah, that was my pick. The young lion's
going to figure it out. It's a tough ask, though.
I've been using this one. Usyk's going to do
Usyk things. And no one can figure out Usyk things.
No one has yet to figure it out. Usyk is very
good at adjusting. That's part of what makes
him so good. But I do think Dubois is better.
I was getting some flack in the chat for that.
People are like, based on what? And I was like,
I don't know. You think Dubois is better than
Usyk? I think Dubois is better than he was in
their first fight. He's shown improvement. I
agree. Considerable improvement. Yeah, I forget
who it was, but somebody was saying that was
a bad take. That's a pretty good take, actually.
Yeah, that's pretty reasonable. Yeah, he's shown
some great improvement. I would say he's, besides
Usyk, he'd probably be the best guy in the division,
in my personal opinion right now. Yeah, I do
think this is one and two. Yeah. Obviously, you
have guys like Mosley Talma, but he's not there
yet now. He's going to come up. I believe he'll
be there soon. A couple years, but right now,
Dubois is the best in the division. However,
I would say that Dubois has got a pretty good
shot, though. And I think, honestly, the wait
for Dubois to win might be surprising, but I
think it's just to bring it to Usyk. You know,
I'm kind of dumb to say, but if you just barrage
Usyk with just nonstop, nonstop aggression, I
think that's the way you could. Because he's
also got pretty good power. Pretty great power,
actually. So I think if he lands a couple on
Usyk and, you know, just gives it his all, I
think he could win by knockout. He needs to win
by knockout. Yeah, I don't see a Dubois decision.
I don't either. I think Usyk outboxes him, and
Dubois' only chance is, like, landing a big shot.
Hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up. You're right.
I agree with you. However, they can also rob
Usyk. It is a Queensberry card. He's a Queensberry
fighter. Usyk is not a Queensberry fighter. He's
at the end of his reign. You know, you never
know what they could do. This is boxing, bro.
Yeah, they might just. I don't think they'll
rob Usyk. I don't think they'll do that. They've
done worse. Yeah, they have. And it's boxing.
It is boxing. You can't just say, you know what
I mean? It's happened many times in the past.
If I were to watch that, I wouldn't be surprised.
If I were to see it live, I would not be surprised
at all. I would be a little surprised if they
rob Usyk. He's too popular. But the point of
him being at the end of his career, though, I
think that's what makes it seem more of a viable
possibility. Fair enough. If he had five years
more left, if he had five years to fight, I think
they wouldn't rob him. But since he's at the
end of his reign, he's making it known. He's
at the end of his reign. I feel like they would
probably like all the titles in -house. You know
what I mean? Because this is their chance. Fair.
Yeah. Otherwise, if Usyk wins, all the titles
get spread out amongst all these promotional
companies. And it's going to take years to get
them all back. I do like when the titles split,
actually. Having one undisputed champion, it
makes the division so slow. It makes the division
slow, yes. But the promoters like when a champion
does have... all the titles because it makes
every fight matter with those champions no i
i know what you're saying and i don't disagree
i just mean me personally i would prefer if they
scattered to the four corners and they had to
go like collect them like the dragon balls oh
yeah i 100 agree yeah i like the same the same
approach like when canelo's gone i'll be happy
much to love him i'll be happy because that means
the division is free Canelo's also been having
just boring fights lately. Oh yeah. Usyk at least
is fighting the best of the best consistently.
Like Usyk is doing what a unified champion should
do. I like the way when Inoue moved up from 118.
Even though it might be a bad example just because
all of the belts ended up in Japan anyway. But
that's not in a way. Yeah, it's not his fault.
Usyk moving up from Cruiserweight. It's another
one. It's cool for it to have an apex and then
to break back out. And then somebody has to recollect
them, like you said. I would say probably the
best example right now we have is when Charlo
moved up. Bacchanal were undisputed at 168. All
the titles were spread out. And now we have a
fire division. On fire. Yeah, absolutely. So
it's actually amazing when the title's spread
out. Yeah, the power vacuum that it leaves. Yeah.
Gonna skip. Gonna go to the bottom of the list.
Matchroom, also on DAZN. At the Star. At the
Frisco. The star at the Frisco in Frisco, Texas.
What a name. Good stuff. Much better than Smoothie
King. Yeah, 100%. I'm excited for this fight.
Or this card, I mean. There's some good fights
on here. Yeah, good one to watch out for if you're
not paying attention to Nishant Dev. He's an
up -and -coming Indian fighter. I think he was
an Olympian. He'll be fighting Omar Rosales,
Omari Jones. There's another amateur standout.
He's fighting Alfredo Blanco. What's that guy's
record, Alfredo Blanco? 24 and 14. That's not
horrible. A real journeyman. Yeah, for his fourth
fight? Yeah, it's not bad. Super experienced.
He knows how to make it grimy, I bet. Sure. Diego
Pacheco versus Trevor McCombie. Diego needs to
win this for the culture, I'll tell you that.
Yeah, I was trying to figure out how to say that.
Diego needs to win for the culture. We need you
right now, dude. Yeah, because if he loses to
fucking Trevor McCombie, that's going to be horrible.
He's going to get fucking... I don't want to
say it. I wasn't going to say it, but... Isn't
Pacheco American? Like, wasn't he born in the
States? That does not matter. That doesn't matter.
That doesn't matter. Fair enough. Fair enough.
It's happening anyway. Leo, it looks like, for
Leo, it looks like his background is in his room,
but he's actually in the attic. Yeah, in the
quiet. And Frank style. Yeah. Can't like that
right now. Diego Pacheco, is, Alex, I want to
ask you first. How do you think Diego Pacheco
is going to react to Trevor McCombie? Because
McCombie has some pretty solid experience, like
world title experience. And Diego Pacheco is
still pretty young. I would say that he's going
to do what he's always done. He's going to go
out there and do the Benavidez Senior Special.
Just kind of mong out a little bit. You know
what I mean? Yeah, a little more energy never
hurt. Yeah, exactly. He's still young to where
he has been refined. And honestly, with the training
camp he's in right now, or with the trainer he's
with, I doubt he'll get much better. Because
he's no Benavidez, you know. Right. In my opinion.
And so I think that, I think he'll knock out
Trevor McCombie. As Trevor McCombie was knocked
out by Kayla Plant. Someone who historically
hasn't had much knockout power. However, I think
it'll still be kind of a Grammy fight. And I
think Trevor McCombie, how tall is Trevor McCombie?
Like six foot, 5 '11", somewhere around there?
Six foot, according to BoxRec. And Cech was,
what, 6 '3", I believe, so he does have the height
advantage, I believe the reach advantage as well,
so it would be a hard fight on paper, but I see
it's not going to go past round eight. Round
eight. It's a five -inch reach advantage. That's
pretty fucking steep. That is. That is a lot.
Man, I think he finishes it sooner than eight.
I was a little about to say right now, I think
he finishes it by around five. Five to seven.
Yeah, somewhere around there. I think it's going
to be a fun fight. I think it's going to be a
bit of a banger. Neither one of these guys is
going to back up much. You know, I'm surprised
that there hasn't been much media about that
fight itself. I feel like a good way to sell
that fight would be, you know, obviously kind
of on the nose, you know. Play up to the political
landscape? Yeah, but... I'm surprised they haven't
done that. Yeah, me too. That would be pretty
freaking funny. Is McCombie as right wing as
he looks? I don't think he said that much stuff.
He wears all the gear. He has a scarf and shit.
He has the mullet. He's a glazer. But I will
say it would be funny to see Diego Pacheco on
a video where it says Humble Mexican boxer, or
Mexican boxer humbles racist, racist opponent
from Motividia. From Motividia. That would have
been perfect, but, you know, missed opportunity
to get 500 to 1 ,000 views on a Diego Pacheco
fight. Oh, shit. Emma Williams, as we said, is
looking for a new opponent. Leads us with Bam
and Kafu. I'm not sure how we talked about this
one on Boxing Before Dark. Yeah. Don't sleep
on Kafu. Don't sleep on Kafu. I do think Bam
wins. Yeah, of course. But this is going to be
a hard fight, I think. I understand. Kafu's better
than people think, and he's tough as nails. He
stood up to Tanaka, and I know Tanaka's not the
heaviest puncher ever, but he's got power for
the weight class, for sure. I understand and
agree. Kapu, people overlook Kapu. I think Bam's
team themselves are kind of overlooking Kapu,
which the problem is that it's actually making
me worried because, as we all know, Bam and Puma
are supposed to fight if he wins. Oh, that's
right. And you guys know the curse with Riyadh.
Actually, with any promotional company in general,
where when they already have a fight lined up
in the future, it never goes good. So I pray
that Bam wins and gets out unscathed. But I hardly
see that happening with Kafu. I think Bam's going
to take some damage. I agree. This is going to
be his first fight in I don't know how long.
Or the guy I believe is under, I think he's like,
what, 27? 26? Kafu? Yeah, he's 26. He's 26? Yeah,
that's a young lion right there, dude. I brought
this up, too. Like, this is his first real not
-old -man fight in a while. They're about the
same age. Yeah, I believe this is going to be
Bam's hardest fight until Puma, of course, but
it's going to be a hard fight for him. I don't
even think he's going to knock him out. I think
this is going to go to decision, and it's going
to be a close one, I believe. Probably 8 -4.
Max. Yeah, I think if Bam does get the knockout,
Cafu's going to be on his feet. He's not going
to lay him out. Oh, no. If he does, that would
be crazy. And I know, again, it's going to be
like, oh, well, nobody really knew him, but this
is... I would say if he knocks out Kapu, he's
going to be one of, probably his best win so
far. Yeah. In his career. Because all the other
guys, yeah, they're legends. You know, SSR, Estrada,
Quadras. But they were all past it. Exactly.
Kapu, he's young and hungry. I believe he has
the opportunity, he has a chance to take Bam
out. And if it goes to decision, of course, I
think it's going to be given to Bam. But, If
someone's going to get knocked out, it could
go either way. I'm still sure Bam wins. I have
faith. I think it's going to be a much harder
test than everybody is kind of thinking it will
be. Yeah. Kofu's being overlooked, and I think
he's going to do the Michael Jordan and take
it personally. The thing is, for me, actually,
I have a... personal bias for bam i've been following
him for years and i think that um this fight
not but it's personal not that it's personal
to me but it's gonna be i'm gonna be a little
more stressed out for this fight specifically
than all the other fights this weekend you know
yeah yeah that's maybe one that's my main event
of the weekend bam kafu is gonna be the best
fight this weekend i think for sure Oof. Anything
more for BAM and Kafu? Alright. Potential buy
of the year. Potential. Yes, actually. Like you
were saying, if it's going to end by knockout,
it could go either way. That could be upset of
the year. Just because of how unknown Kafu is.
Oh, if Kafu wins, it's going to send shockwaves
through fucking all the lower weight classes,
I think. Yeah. All right, let's hit up PBC on
Prime at the MGM Grand Garden Arena. This is
a very stacked card. Although the main event
is pretty shit, the rest of the card is pretty
good. I don't know if this is the exact running
order. But we're going to start with Brandon
Figueroa versus Joette Gonzalez. You may have
seen Joette Gonzalez around. He's the guy they
bring around when we need a beatable opponent,
but someone who's tough and looks good on paper.
But he's not going to have to deal with like
Stephen Fulton type of movement or anything.
Should be a good night for the highlight night.
For Figueroa. It's a good confidence booster.
Yeah. It is. It's a solid one. It's a good guy
to bring out. Isaac Cruz versus Angel Fierro.
It was a dogfight last time. I'm expecting a
dogfight this time. Yeah, I'm excited for this
one. This is a good fight. Unless Isaac Cruz
gets a jab overnight. I don't think I'm going
to have another great fight. He might be allergic
to them. Oh yeah, for sure. I do not see Pitbull.
Pitbull with a jab is going to be crazy. Mythical
status. Not going to happen. Yeah, that's mythic
status. Another rematch. Sebastian Fundora versus
Tim Zhu. Hopefully Tim Zhu keeps all his blood
in one place. Preferably inside. Yes. What do
you guys got for this one? Because I've had disagreements
with everybody else. I want to see what you guys
got. I don't think Tim Zhu is over the cut. I
really don't. I think Tim Zhu is the better fighter.
I think he can win. I think if he gets cut, his
brain is going to explode, even if it's not a
bad cut. If Zhu produces any blood at all, I
think he loses. You think that's the PTSD trigger?
Oh, 100%. the the little short thing they put
out he like hadn't opened his shorts since the
fight they were in a plastic bag and they made
him open them on camera and like you could just
one he'd never opened it i think he was avoiding
it because of the like emotion and shit and he's
a man so he just put it in a bag and put it in
a closet and when he did open it you could like
I don't know how to describe it. It's not like
he cried or anything, but you could hear it in
his voice. Like, just, holy shit. Like, and can
you smell that? And I think it started, like,
flashbacks. Oh, smell. Smells the worst sense
of memory. Yeah, well, and, like, old blood.
Yeah. Yeah. I think he's over it. I believe that
Tim Zu, I think that if anything is going to
have him shaken up more between that and Murtazaliv,
I think it's the bad loss of Murtazaliv. That
was like the catalyst for him to change, to get
the help that he needed to get over the hurdle.
Maybe. I hope so. I like Tim Zu. Yeah, he seems
like a good cat. I want him to be okay, but I
just, I don't know, man. I don't think he's over
it. I think if he gets through this fight, he
might be over it. If you know what I mean. I
think so. Well, unless he gets cut again. But
who do you guys have win the fight, though? I'm
going with Tim. Tim? Okay. Yeah. I don't know,
man. I like Fundora, too, though. Yeah, he's
fun. He's a fun character. I just want everybody
to have a good time in this one. I personally
think that Fundora is going to lose this fight.
To me, the fact that in the first fight, Simzu
was winning the first three rounds pretty clearly.
And I think the equalizer was the blood. That's
what helped Fundora win that fight, in my opinion.
I agree with that. Tim Zu was winning, for sure.
So if Tim Zu can do the same thing and not get
cut, I think he wins probably pretty early as
well. He might just win by knockout. Again, I
really like Pandora as a person. He's a great
guy. But I have not seen much... I've seen a
little bit of improvement, but I haven't seen
much from him. Enough to where I could decisively
say that he will knock out Tim Zu or beat him
to decision. Because we've talked about podcasts
in the past. He doesn't utilize his jab properly.
And that could be because of his eyesight. I'm
not too sure. By the way, he fights on the inside
when he should be fighting on the outside. Yeah.
And he's going to be fighting a tough fight like
Tim Zhu. I don't know. I think Tim's going to
try and stay on the outside this time. And I
think if he can stay on the outside, he'll just
outbox Fandora. That's what he was doing last
time. Tim Zu was staying on the outside last
time. Yeah, and until the... Yeah, unfortunately
until the cut, but... Yeah, I think Tim Zu takes
it this weekend, unfortunately. And again, I
like Tim Zu as well. He's like a good guy, you
know? He doesn't seem like a... You know, like
other fellas. He's not very McCombish. Yeah,
he's not very McCombish, you know? He's not very
Takish. He seems like a good fella. You know?
So whoever wins, I would be happy with it. You
know? But for me, Pandora is a lot more local
than Tim Zoo. So I got to root for my guy, you
know? Fair enough. Man. Mario Barrios versus
Manny Pacquiao. Oh, Lord. Oh, my goodness. So
did you see the rumors? That I hope are just
unsubstantiated rumors of if Pacquiao wins, Mayweather's
coming out of retirement. Yes, I did see that.
I can see it happening, dude. And honestly, that
would be... I can see it happening. I can too.
Mayweather's been doing exhibitions for God knows
how long. I don't know. I think that if Manny
Pacquiao wins, that's guaranteed to happen. Because
it's the PBC, and the PBC loves good Mayweather
promotion. Yeah. They haven't had one in years,
and they're excited. They're biting their nails
with that right there. And honestly, if they
do that, it's going to be worse than the first.
Guaranteed. Oh, absolutely. Two old men fighting
each other. Like Roy Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson.
I was just going to say, it's going to be Roy
Jones Jr. and Mike Tyson. Roy looked just completely
unable to operate. He was trying to move his
body and it was not moving the way that he wanted
it to. Roy's knees are fucked. Yeah, absolutely.
Whereas Mike, you could see shades of what he
used to be. I'm expecting Manny Pacquiao to be
more like Roy in this scenario. I don't think
Pacquiao is going to be able to beat Barrios.
No. I don't see a way that old man Pacquiao does.
I know Barrios isn't that good, but he's not
fucking ancient, and he's good enough that he
picked up a title. The thing with Barrios is
that Barrios in his last fight was a dog. You
guys remember the Ramos fight with Barrios? Yeah.
Abel Ramos, yeah. So the thing is that Pacquiao
needs to knock him out. The problem is, can Pacquiao
really knock out Barrios when Pacquiao, even
when he was fighting at 147, couldn't really
knock out many, many people? I mean, I believe
it was, what, he only knocked out four? Wait,
I don't know if I'm getting this number right.
Because for years and years and years, he wasn't
able to knock somebody out. I don't know if you
guys can... Help me clarify this. I'm looking
at for his 147 time. He doesn't have that many
fights at 147. He's got, as far as I can tell,
one knockout against someone I don't recognize.
Lucas. Oh, I do recognize Lucas Matisse. I just
couldn't read his name properly. Matisse. But
Lucas Matisse isn't great. No. No, but I think,
as far as I can see, that's the only person he
knocked out at... Well, that was 146, but...
That's just what he weighed in. Either way, I
believe that Pacquiao would need to knock out
Barrios within the first four rounds. No fucking
way Pacquiao is going 12 rounds. I don't foresee
that either. Oh, I can see the back. I can see
him... Going 12 if Barrios... Carries him. Wets
him. Yeah, carries him. Because he's no legend.
You know how they always do. But the thing is
that I really want Pacquiao to win. I truly do.
Why? Why do you want Pacquiao to win? Let me
tell you why. Because Barrios, as a champion,
he hasn't done much. He's fought in the last
year. But in the last year, he's fought Abel
Ramos. And I believe he fought last May with
Baby Maidana. Baby Maidana was just... He got
obliterated on top rank. And Abel Ramos, while
that was a great fight, they haven't done anything
with him since. So with Barrios, they're kind
of keeping him in the... What's not the closet?
What's the word? They're just keeping him in
the storage box, you know? Until they need someone
to fill up a card. Okay, but let's say... Pacquiao
does win, then what happens? He fights Mayweather
and whoever that is is the title holder. Hold
up, hold up, hold up. Let me finish, let me finish.
I also want Pacquiao to win because that would
just be probably one of the greatest comebacks
in boxing history. I mean, come on. That's probably
the best comeback since Foreman, I would say.
Gotta be. To knock out a reigning champion, a
guy that is in his prime, you know? The only
thing is that this is a lighter weight class,
and Pacquiao is not like Foreman at all. So I
would say if Pacquiao does win against Barrios,
that will be the greatest win. Hot take. Hot
take. That would be even crazier than Foreman
beating Michael Moore. Woof. That is indeed a
hot take. No, I'm with Alex on this one, because
Foreman had his, like... Second career and worked
up to it. He didn't go away for six years and
then come back. Yeah, okay. I see what you mean.
Like, like, George Foreman earned that title
shot and he earned that fight. He earned, oh,
not that fight. He earned that win by knocking
him out. But the thing is, Foreman is a mythical
fighter. He had godly power. That was the equalizer
in that fight was the power of Foreman. The thing
is that this is a lighter weight class. At 147,
I mean, as much as we can talk about Barrios
not being, you know, good with his feet, he's
still young. So he can move. He has good reflexes,
though. He can move out the way. Pacquiao, he
can't punch like he used to. He can't be on balance.
He can't be balanced as he used to. So I would
say if he didn't knock out Barrios, that would
be the greatest... comeback, the greatest boxing
comeback in God knows how long, probably ever.
Yeah, I don't disagree. I just don't want Pacquiao
to win, because then what happens? Like, what's
accomplished? I would say that if Pacquiao and
Mayweather do fight, that does bring a lot of
viewers to the sport, and I understand that,
yeah, it's not the best fight to have people
watch, but at the same time, that could give
opportunities to put Other fighters on the other
card of that. You know. Okay. A spotlight to.
A lot of young fighters. Like. If Mayweather
wins. I can see Mayweather retiring with a title.
But Pacquiao is not going to retire while he
has a belt. Ever. That's just not in Pacquiao's
head. So. Who. Do you. Put up against Pacquiao
next. Well you would put Mayweather up with him.
That's the thing. That's what. They probably
would do. And if not, they'd probably do... And
then Mayweather wins the... They'd probably do...
Rowley beats old man Pacquiao badly. I don't
care what anyone says. That would be crazy if...
No, he would fucking kill Pacquiao. Like, literally
kill Pacquiao. The thing with Barrios is that
it's... To me, it's just that people are looking...
We do not really appreciate the skill of Barrios.
He doesn't have much, but he's still a young
fighter. That's the issue. He doesn't have much
skill, but he's still a young fighter. And he's
still world -class. Whatever anyone wants to
say, he's a world -class fighter. It says more
about the division than it does about Barrios.
And the thing is that as much as we could talk
shit about his skill, the one thing about that
man that will save him in that fight is his heart.
As we saw with April Ramos, he got up. He did
get up. And so if Pacquiao doesn't knock him
out, it's over. It's over for Pacquiao. But I
do want to root for Pacquiao to win. I understand
it's kind of silly to say that, but he's a legend.
I'm going to root for the guy I grew up watching.
Fair enough, but I just think it's a waste of
time. You never know. You honestly never know.
No, but I'm saying even if Pacquiao wins, it's
a waste of time. How many eyes do you think it
will bring back to the sport is my thing. It
will bring some amount of eyes back to the sport
if Pacquiao wins again. And that kind of does
suck that it has to happen like this if it were
to bring people back, but... But it will. If
Pacquiao beats Barrios, Barrios better retire.
You have to. He better fucking stop boxing. Yeah,
that would be unfortunate. Because the only person
to knock out Barrios is Tank. Yes. Uga has put
him both to ass, but he didn't knock him out.
Thurman? Thurman. Oh, yeah. Sorry. Thurman. Thurman.
Thurman. Thurman didn't knock him out, though,
right? He did not. Yeah. Tank was the only one
to knock him out. So, you can take that as you
will, you know. Those Pacquiao, those old man
Pacquiao, still have the power to put him out.
Old man Pacquiao is going to look like shit.
And it's going to make everyone sad, is what's
going to happen. It's going to be, realistically,
it is going to be another Jake Paul, Mike Tyson
fight. You know, it is going to be sad. But I
pray it's not. I just hope everyone has a good
time. Well, at least we got Bam. Yeah, we got
Bam. I'll bite my fingers for that. It sucks
that they're going head -to -head. Oh, are they
at the same time? Yeah, just about. It would
have been better to put at least one of those
cards in the following week because what the
hell is in the following week? Top break, but...
August 3rd. You could have saved one of those
fights for August 3rd. No, July 26th definitely
needs some help. Yeah. It still has Zayas Perez,
but not many people are going to watch that,
you know? July 26th, I'll be at Ryzen. So, no
good boxing that day. Yeah, there's not a lot.
Anything more for the PBC paper? No. I would
like to say shame on Marisa Suleiman for putting
this fight on. Yeah. Absolutely. That was just
a dogshit move. Yeah. You're screwing over all
these other fighters? that have worked their
way up the division and fought tough fights just
for old man Pacquiao to come back. As much as
I say I would want Pacquiao to win, again, I
only want that just because it would bring ice
to the sport, but realistically, it's ridiculous
that it's happening in the first place. It would
also be pretty funny. Yeah. At least have Pacquiao
show that he's not completely washed. Like, have
him have a tune -up. He's had exhibition fights.
That's the issue. Did you see his last exhibition?
He looked terrible. Yeah, he looked terrible.
Now, I would say hopefully if he does it better,
he'll survive. I said this on the other one.
If Barrios actually really hurts Manny or kills
him, it's Suleiman's fault. I mean, we'll see
what happens. I don't think Barrios is going
to kill him. That might be too much. Nobody thinks
that. It is boxing, but at the same time, I don't
think Barrios is going to wield the power to
kill someone like Manny Pacquiao. He's a 47 -year
-old man. He's an old man now. With a lot of
damage. It's not like Pacquiao's not like Mayweather
where he didn't take damage. Pacquiao's been
in some wars. You're right. Pacquiao's been in
many wars. He got fucking turned off by Marquez.
Like, that leaves some sort of damage. I don't
care who you are. Oh, no. Formal. Greed. Greed
is what makes this sport drive. Apparently. And
unfortunately, Mauricio Suleiman is gonna put
that at the forefront on this weekend. Yeah,
of course. He's gotta make his business money.
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.net. Right there. So we're heading into a packed
July 19th weekend. Parting words. Everyone should
try a new drink this weekend. Of some sort. Just
something different. You might like it. Get a
new beer. Yeah. I tried... So they have strawberry
milk here in Japan, which I really like. But
I tried melon milk. Not that good. But I'm glad
I tried it. I would say, let's go Dubois. Hopefully,
he can win. Or hopefully, if a fight goes the
distance. Let's go Bam. Hopefully, he'll lose
a fight. Hopefully, he can fight Riyad and fight
Puma, which will be legendary. And as much bullshit
as we talk, I would love to see Matt and Pacquiao
come out of it unscathed. Oh, unscathed, yes.
It's the best anyone could hope for, is that
he comes out okay. Yeah. Get the applesauce ready,
Jinky. That's a tough video. Yeah, yeah. Alright,
well, if that's it, then that's it for this edition
of the Boxing B -Sides. See you on the other
side.