This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
is Boxing Before Dark. Boxing Before Dark. I,
uh... Holy shit. We just had... Possibly card
of the year. Not possibly. I think it just hands
down is card of the year. So far, I would say
so. We're not going to be talking about it this
time, but it was billed as ring three. Berlanga
versus Shiraz. Shakur Stevenson versus William
Zepeda. David Morrell versus Imam Kataev. It
was just overall an incredible card. It was really
good. Bangers. Yeah, if you didn't get it, if
you didn't watch it, I'll say, then you missed
out. Sucks to be you. I think you can purchase
the pay -per -views after on DAZN as well. And
honestly, this one might be worth the reduced
price if you missed it. I think they delay by
a week. So based on our scheduling, how we do
it on B -Sides and here on Before Dark, if you
wanted to wait, you could watch it, I think,
for free and then catch our recap at that same
time, within the same week. Nice. That's just
how the scheduling works out for us. Okay, so
Francisco Rodriguez, adverse finding in VADA.
What the shit? They still haven't said what it
is, and it's going to be fucking hilarious if
he pops for weed again. Because that's just going
to make that beating even funnier. Pops for weed
again? Isn't it Francisco Rodriguez that tested
positive for weed, or am I being racist? I have
no idea. I don't know. Give me two seconds. I've
only known Francisco Rodriguez from his fight
with Yafai. That's all I know about him. That
might be confusing to... Rodriguez's. Yeah, I
mean, it happens. No, all I'm getting is about
this last one. Adverse finding with Vada, though?
Yeah. Oh, jeez. Any preliminary... They never
said anything. No exogenous testosterone or any
of that sort of stuff. Any particular drug. Yeah.
Usually they would have released it at this point.
Yeah, and I still don't see anything saying anything
specific. It's just adverse findings, which...
Usually means it's something that could maybe
be explained away, such as Canelo's, like, tainted
bee for Fury's wild boar meat or something. Wild
boar meat. Not that I believe any of those. Right.
I'm just saying. If they don't specifically say
what it is, it's usually something that you could
try and explain away. Man, I can only think that
he's going to go with the tainted beef situation.
Again, I kind of hope it's marijuana, which I
don't think anybody is actually going to say
is a performance -enhancing drug, and it would
make me laugh. But it is still banned by VADA.
Yeah, it's banned. It's a banned substance. So
there's that. um as far as it being like a performance
enhancing or like a lot of people think it's
a performance inhibiting drug if anything yeah
i don't know about that i just think it would
be the funniest thing for him to test positive
for either way though i think like he just put
that beating on your thigh so it's like a ryan
garcia and devin haney and like you can't you
can't undo it yeah yeah nobody's going to unsee
You getting your ass beat. Yeah, yeah. They can
take away the L on your record, but it doesn't
change anything. Man. When I was competitive
powerlifting, some of the best workouts that
I ever had, I had smoked weed before. And they
were just... I can't explain it. It's... something
you like if you know you know um not everybody
knows like weed doesn't affect everybody the
same way um so hard to say yeah well there was
there was that snowboarder that got his gold
medal taken away i'm pretty sure it was a canadian
um because he was just high as fuck at the olympics
apparently like he didn't test kind of positive
he tested very positive yeah yeah and like canada
has a show jumper that's been banned for life
twice from international competition uh like
horse jumping but he's just so good they keep
getting his bands overturned and he always tests
positive for cocaine and i'm like just just take
the cocaine away from him like i don't know how
that helps him jump a horse but and you would
have to be like like doing it right before the
event there's yeah there's no way that no he
is just definitely addicted like no question
i've had because i know people will make fun
of it but those show jumpers make like hundreds
of millions of dollars doing it and he fucks
up cocaine so often that they've banned him from
life and overturned it twice if you're gonna
get caught with it like you have to do it Within,
like, 12 hours. I think he was doing rails right
before he got on his horse. Exactly. That's how
he's getting caught, is because he is straight
up, like, busting rails and then gets on the
horse. Yeah, I think so. That is incredibly fucked
up. I understand that one. Same with, like, David
Benavidez. popping for cocaine like come on yeah
like he was just partying a little too hard before
the uh the random drug tests happened yeah there
are worse things that you could do with your
with your time like beating your wife oh shit
yeah speaking of which gervonta davis gets arrested
for domestic violence for what is this again
for the third time I think the third time. And
rumor on the street, as in rumors on the internet
that I have no basis for, but his girlfriend,
wife, whoever, said he crashed out because he
thinks his kid is gay and the kid's like one.
Like, Tank is so far in the closet, it's really
affecting his life. He needs to just admit it
and stop worrying about everybody else. Very
deeply furrowed brow. Very deep shrug. I'm trying
to narrate the reactions that I'm having to this.
Like, what the fuck is... I don't even know...
How do you decide a one -year -old is gay? Anyways,
I don't know if that's true, but rumor on the
internet is that's what his significant other,
the mother of the child, said. Who cares, dude?
Big, who cares? Who the fuck cares? So what?
So the fuck what? It's still your kid, man. Of
all the things that you're going to freak out
about, I would have thought autism, just because
you never know if they're going to be functional
or not. High functioning, I should say. Anyways,
super fucking weird crash out. Very strange.
If that's true, if that's true. I mean, domestic
violence crash outs are always uncalled for.
Doesn't matter what the situation is. Yeah, regardless
of whether the kid is gay or autistic or whatever
the fuck. It's a one -year -old. You can't tell
either of those things. Man. Anyways, in non
-controversial news, Inouye versus MJ is in Nagoya
in September. How's that in relation to you?
It's one of the bullet trains, so it would be
a little expensive. But I have not been to Nagoya
yet, and it is one of the cities I want to visit
now that I've done the major ones, or most of
the major ones. But it is a ticket lottery. gross
so that's bullshit i really don't think i'll
win the lottery but i did get lucky once buying
a resale ticket so i'm gonna hold out for that
and the bullet trains you don't have to it's
not like an airplane you don't have to book ahead
of time like the price is just the price so i
am gonna try and go i think i would like to make
that kind of like a three days two nights weekend
thing if i can at work oh yeah go see the sights
right yeah because i've never been to nagoya
uh i don't know what all's there but i mean there
must be something it's a big city yeah i haven't
been around a lot of japan but i have heard of
nagoya it's halfway between tokyo and uh kyoto
so anyways i i would really like to do that i
also noticed that they put it the day after canelo's
fight again I wonder if they're hoping for another
Canelo snoozer because in a way got a lot of
positive press, more positive press than he would
have otherwise after he saved that Times Square
Canelo skull weekend. That weekend was just dog
shit. And yeah, he fucking saved it. Yeah. And
like Canelo Crawford might be big. It's big,
but it might be a good fight. I could see it
being a snoozer. I've been saying I could see
it being boring as fuck. It can very well be
boring as fuck. I see the avenues for it to be
boring compared to, in a way, MJ fight, which
just, to me, the avenues are far, far fewer.
Yeah. And I just kind of feel a little bit like
Inouye's team or top rank or someone might be
trying to do the, well, we can get positive press
if Crawford Canelo ends up being a snoozer. We'll
get that same positive extra boost. Yeah. Or
maybe I'm just a conspiracy theorist. No, I think
you're right. I think that they're trying to
Ben Franklin here. With their key on the kite.
Yeah. And they're trying to catch it again. Well,
and like, worst case scenario for them, Crawford
Canelo is a great fight weekend and people are
up on boxing and they want to watch Inouye. I
want more boxing. To keep it going. Yeah, I want
more. So I think either way, they kind of capitalize.
But it does suck that they put these big names
on the same weekend because then it's going to
be probably a little slow. Although there's lots
of fights in September, I guess. That's the way
that you had to put it for the women's card,
right? Well, and I think I'm right. Like, who's
left to fight for women in the next six months?
Mimi. But, I mean, Mimi's not that famous. I
just like her. Clarissa Shields. Yeah, but her
fights are usually really one -sided, unfortunately.
And she's going to have kind of a shit undercard,
I think. Yeah, she will. So, like, I don't know.
That women's card was good, though. I know that's
also next podcast, but I was pleasantly surprised
by the women's card. That being said, I did not
watch the main event, which I heard was pretty
shit. Yeah, that was actually... We were supposed
to record just before. It started? Yeah. And
I had something else I had to attend to. So I'll
have to try to recap as much of that card as
I can before we get there. But the main event,
I can say, was... Not great? There have been
better Taylor Serrano fights. Well, it would
have been fucking impossible to beat the last
one, I think. There have been considerably better
Taylor Serrano fights. Yeah. Man. Shall we get
into the recamps? Yes. The recent shit. Is this
up to date? Is that the only recap? It is. And
I did not update it. Joe Cordina versus Jaret
Carras. I remember Joe Cordina kind of washing
it. Man, this is me being very professional.
This is what happens when we record after big
cards. Yeah. I know I watched this. I know it
was a week ago and I have a shit memory. I think
Cordina kind of won. pretty convincingly didn't
it was yeah and this was one of those ones that
was for the wbo global uh yeah this is cordina
trying to get back into like contention title
contention yeah it's um it's wbo global versus
what's the difference between the wbo world i'm
uh like half face palming For those who are not
watching. The global is less somehow. Than world.
Global is less than world. How does that make
sense? Jack Catterall versus Harlem Eubank. That
fight was sloppy as shit. That was an ugly fight.
Yeah. And not fun. Where's Lynn? I need you to
try to intellectualize this for me. This fight
was just fucking hot garbage. I did not. But
Caterall fights are often not fun. Just not fun.
Yeah. Yeah, that's fair. And, because it ended
in a head clash in the ninth? They went to the
cards? Seventh. Seventh. Oh, even earlier. Whatever.
Still, not good. No. Well, and this is the one
where the doctor from the other corner stopped
it for Catterall, right? That's right. I didn't
understand how that happened. Because Eubank
did not have a bad enough cut to stop the fight.
The doctor in Catterall's corner said, yeah,
he can continue. That is the cut that I assume
stopped the fight. Should have. But then the
doctor in Eubank's corner, talked to the ref,
and the ref waved it off. Yes. Like, it didn't
make sense to me. And it was a bad cut. But usually
they will let them go one round, see how it looks,
whatever. We have seen worse. Way worse. Considerably
worse that has been allowed to continue beyond
just a round. But, like, goddamn. The one that
Harlem Eubank had was not... nothing it was like
i think i've cut my eye that bad got drunk and
fell into a door and you slice your eye open
yeah i'm trying to think like i'm checking my
eyebrows like um i probably have been cut worse
than that yeah well and this one people tell
me i'm making it up but people should go back
and watch round seven i swear to god catterall
pulled a tank When he got that cut, he ran to
his corner and they came up to wipe his eye for
him. And the ref walked over and was like, what
the fuck are you doing? You can't do this. And
nobody has mentioned it. I'm like, why are fighters
doing this? It's ridiculous. I mean, if Tank
is allowed to do it, then... They have set the
precedent. Yep. And it's bullshit. Because, yeah.
It was another case of the corner coming up onto
the apron and doing more than they should. Well,
they shouldn't be allowed on the apron at all.
Yeah, exactly. They're not allowed on. Yeah,
I don't know. I would not recommend this. If
you missed this one, just leave it. You did better
things with your time. Yeah, I don't even care
if you were asleep. It was better things with
your time. Better use of your time is to sleep.
And that being the only recap is fucking atrocious.
That's all we got. All right, let me... We could
do the cuts different this time because we have
the half -year picks, right? Yeah, actually,
that's a good call. Let's get into that since
it's only the two of us. Stoppage. We have 10
categories that we use here at Lux. So without
further ado, stoppage of the year. What do you
got? Okay, I think pretty clearly KO of the year
has to be Brian Norman Jr. versus Jin Sasaki.
Of course. But I do have an honorable mention
that I thought was that until Norman Jr. Takei
versus Tang Di. was a really fast really brutal
knockout and there was also one on an undercard
i swear to god it was the very first punch of
the fight thrown knock the guy out about this
but i can't remember what fight it was and i
couldn't find it this is not that but that was
also an honorable mention but i can't remember
who it was Long -time listeners with better memories
will know who I'm talking about. Yeah, if you
want to go back into the archives, you can probably
find it. Or just have a memory. Yeah. But anybody
who remembers, please call in and tell me who
it was so I can go find the damn thing again.
833 -589 -7637. I really do think there is only
one answer to this one. Yeah. We had the same
outcome on B -Sides, which hasn't... At this
point, probably hasn't come out yet when you're
listening to this. But my primary pick, of course,
Norman over Sasaki. There is nothing else. Yeah,
there's no other KOs this year. Anywhere close.
My other stoppage, my honorable mention, just
to give a secondary pick, was Inoue over Cardenas.
Just because of how awesome that fight was. Starts
with a knockdown over Inoue. And he rallies back
and just, the last few rounds, it's just brutal.
It's like, we don't need to see anymore. Yeah,
which is what Inouye does. When he gets knocked
down, he gets up and just beats people. Yeah,
he gets fucking mad. All right, Master Class
of the Year. This is a pillar to post -schooling.
Doesn't necessarily have to be... include knockdowns
think Shakur Stevenson more than let's say Subaru
Matias I really struggled with this one and I
know I'm missing some obvious ones I kind of
didn't do my homework and was last minuting this
trying to think of stuff at the festival last
night but I really really struggled with Masterclass
all I have is Tio looked fucking great against
Barbosa, but Barbosa looks so shit. I don't know
if that counts. That counts perfectly. That was
my honorable mention. My primary pick was Benavidez
over Morel. Okay. I can see that one. It's higher
weight classes that I don't watch. But Teofimo
versus Barbosa was my... was one of my picks
as well. He just... negated barbosa entirely
that whole fight he didn't do anything his entire
existence was negated it really was though uh
villain of the year i'll start here um number
one canelo signing with riad that uh definitely
did not tickle my fancy my emeritus pick Whoever
lets Derek Chisora keep fighting. But my primary
would be the Davis brothers with their shenanigans.
Yeah, that's a pretty obvious one. They were
one of my honorable mentions. So my honorable
mentions, my first one's going to maybe surprise
people, maybe not. Junto Nakatani made my villain
list. I really didn't like how dirty and restly
he was with Nishida. And he popped out his shoulder
in one of those weird clinches where he like
judo through him. I did not like that. Did not
like that. And I am a huge Nakatani fan and it
made me angry. So he's the least of my villains,
but he's a villain this year. My next villain
is the whole fucking Reynoso gym. Oh, how did
I forget? Come on, guys. Everybody's fucking
popping in the Reynoso gym. At least once. Like,
so that whole gym is my top honorable mention.
The Davis brothers, I figured everyone else would
pick. It's obvious. So I didn't even put them
on the list. my main villain is the fucking Japanese
Boxing Commission. The JBC is not looking out
for their fighters at fucking all, and I am so
pissed off that they let Shigeoka back in the
ring after a skull fracture. Ten months is not
enough time to heal from a skull fracture. That's
like a career ender. And I... I'm 90 % sure that
they aren't going to make Jin Sasaki take any
extra time off. They're going to let him back
in the ring like nothing happened because he's
passing all of his tests. But if you lose six
weeks of memory, I don't care if you get them
back, you need to at least get a soft touch coming
back. And the JBC... just isn't going to even
try and enforce anything for him. So they are
my villain of the year so far. I don't think
they're looking after their fighters. And as
much as I absolutely love the wars and the banging
style, you need somebody to look after the fighters.
Yeah, somebody has to step in on their behalf
at some point. If it makes you feel better, the
Junto Nakatani pick, this is for non -fighting.
Outside of the ring behaviors. Oh, okay. Well,
inside the ring behavior, I think Nakatani's
my villain this year. So far. And I'll forgive
him after his next fight. After he does his usual.
Right now, he's on my shit list. For new face
of the year, I'll start here. I had two pick.
Three picks. One was my emeritus. But first,
Ramon Cardenas. Nobody knew who this guy was
going into the Inouye fight. And he put on a
fucking show. Absolutely put on a show. I like
that pick. He rates that. And then my number
two was Tara Moana. Does he still count as a
new face? See, I always struggle with this. Yeah.
Because if we talked about them last year, they're
not new to me. I know. And that's why I have
my emeritus pick, which is Tenshin Asakawa. Oh,
fuck off. Fuck off. Fuck all the way off. Yeah.
But that's, like, it's, like, same thing. Like,
I talked about him last year. Probably talked
about him the year before. Yeah. I should probably
stop at some point, but I'm probably not going
to. I struggle with this category because I pick
like really, really new people. Right. So it's
not necessarily debutants, but it's like, is
Abdullah Mason still a new face? Like he's about
to fight for a title. I don't think so. Yeah.
So, I just thought of another one, and I want
to look up his name, but I can't remember. Who's
the Filipino boxer that I really talked up? That
was this last year, right? I think so. What's
his name? What card was he on? So last year he
fought on the Nakatani card in Osaka, and that's
where I saw him live. But he's had at least two
fights this year, I think, and won them both.
But I cannot remember his name. Oh, so you're
going to have to cut some of this. No, it's fine.
So if I go to Nishida and that card in Osaka.
I should be able to get his name off the list,
right? Yeah, that should do it for you. Kenneth
Lover is going on my list. I knew it was a stupid
name. I remember that name. So Kenneth Lover
is my honorable mention. I mean, he's still going
to need a couple years before he... really becomes
anything but new face style i i still think he
makes the mention but makito nakano that was
on the undercard of inoue cardenas and he got
that stoppage with the five knockdowns yes and
i believe that was his debut maybe not i gotta
look that up before i start talking absolute
shit that sounds about right Not his debut at
all. But the first time I'd seen him, so he counts
as a new face. Yeah, that's exactly what new
face is. It's just somebody who surprises you.
Yeah. So he is not that new. He's 13 -0 with
12 KOs. But I had never seen him before. He's
my new face of the year so far. I thought that
was a super impressive performance from somebody
I'd never heard of. And I follow Japanese boxing
closer than most people. yes uh moving into fighter
of the year um i'll start i had number two junto
nakatani and then my villain is your fighter
of the year well he had a pretty impressive year
he did i just thought it was funny yeah and then
uh brian norman was my number one pick because
he's had two like boss stoppages yeah yeah two
real good stoppages i forgot to do this one yeah
um i'm gonna go with who am i gonna go with i'm
just gonna pick my favorite With favoritism.
Sutsumi Seiya. Or Seiya Sutsumi, I guess. That's
Seiya's name in English. He's my fighter of the
year. Just because. Awesome fighter. I like him.
Daigo Higa. Yeah. He lined up to fight... What's
his name? Brain fart. Takei. Next. Yoshiki Takei.
That's right. I follow him on Instagram and he's
been... Because he had the surgery and he's having
time off, he's doing a lot of... Not charity
work, but kind of charity work. Like, he's going
to all his favorite stores and doing, like, meet
and greets and stuff. Oh, okay. Like, guerrilla
advertising and things. Which has nothing to
do with fighting. Honestly, I just forgot to
do this one. But he's my fighter of the year
because he's my favorite. Let's continue. Ass
whooping of the year. You had mentioned this
one was tough for you as well. When did Kim Zoo
get that ass whooping? Oh, shit. With Mortis
Olive. Yeah, was that this year? No, that was
last year. Yeah, that was October of last year.
Shit. I gotta take that off my list then. My
first pick was Boots over Stanionis. That was
a pretty good ass kick in, yeah. Just completely
beat his ass. And then Andy Cruz versus Hironori
Nishido was my second pick. um espinoza versus
vasquez was my pick oh i was trying to come up
with an honorable mention but i mean that was
just an ass kicking start to finish absolutely
vasquez took quite a bit of damage comeback of
the year i'll start this one um this doesn't
necessarily have to be Coming back in the middle
of a fight over, you know, like, something that
was going difficult for them. My first pick was
Stephen Fulton over Brandon Figueroa because,
like, he got the shit beaten out of him by Inouye.
The shit was not even pretty. Not even close.
Yeah. And he comes back and puts a fucking schooling
on Brandon Figueroa. Unbelievable. Makes Inouye
look all the more better. yeah it really does
and then jesus ramos was my uh another career
comeback like he had he'd been uh he got robbed
by erickson lubin and then he's been like trying
to piece put the pieces back together and it's
been uh it's been going well so so i did one
of each My career comeback of the year, people
are going to tell me, is a meme pick, and it's
not. I picked David Allen. The White Rhino has
made a resurgence. Is he going to win a world
title? Probably not. But he's back in the news.
He's going to get a couple big paydays out of
these, I think. He got big paydays in Saudi against...
Johnny Fisher. Yeah. For, like, career comeback,
Dave Allen, I think, has done very well this
year. That's a really good pick. So far. It is.
And then in fight pick of the year, Fabio Wardley
was losing every fucking minute of that fight
until he suddenly won it. Yeah. Yeah, that's...
That was a good pick. So, those are my two comebacks.
I don't have any honorable mentions. I couldn't
think of any others, but... Who did you have
for upset of the year? My upset of the year is
Rolly Romero. Everybody made fun of me for that
one, but I called it. I mean, when I picked it
in the pick league, everybody was talking shit,
saying I was just a hater, that Garcia was going
to knock him out. No. I was probably one of them.
You were. Yeah. I did not expect that out of
Raleigh. That's a really good shot. It was a
good performance. Yeah. Mine was Roach over Tank.
Even though he didn't get the nod on the cards,
like, come on, we all know what we saw. Yeah,
I had that as my honorable mention, but I wasn't
sure if we were allowing the contentious draw
to be counted as an upset. Non -official wins.
Yeah. Yeah. My second pick for upset of the year
was me. I paid for Fatal Fury City of the fucking
Wolves. I paid for that shit. And I was treated.
You got robbed. And I got robbed. I am upset.
Very upset that I paid for that shit. Rightfully
so. Nobody should have paid for that shit. They
should have given everybody their money back.
Absolutely dog shit of a card. Even bundling
them together does not make me feel better. Fatal
Fury was just fucking hot garbage. And so was
Canelo Skull. Yeah, that's part of the Fatal
Fury. The third part of Fatal Fury is Eubank
versus Ben. Those three cards. Yeah, that was
a good fight, but... The other two. Yeah, the
other two. Those are what I mean when I say I'm
upset about paying for that shit. Yeah. Who do
you have for hero of the year? Non -boxing. Oh,
non -boxing. I fucked this up then because I
put Inouye and Cardenas as the heroes of the
year for saving that weekend. That dogshit weekend.
I'll allow it. I will fucking allow it. I can
come up with a non -boxing hero. You tell me
yours and I'll think for 10 seconds. Yeah. Because
of me just saying how much Fatal Fury just...
God damn it. I'm so upset. I paid for that. Yeah.
And so for Inoue and Cardenas, yeah. That's hero
shit right there. I mean, it wasn't just them.
It was that whole card save the weekend. So then
it would be Top Rank, right? Yeah, I guess Top
Rank is my boxing hero of the year. I don't really
like saying that out loud, but Top Rank has been
providing good matchups when a lot of the other
promoters don't. I mean... pro box is good pro
box always has good fights but they're not big
fights they're just good fights so that yeah
that's that's couldn't say it better myself um
for hero my one of my secondary pick was mizuki
hiruta mimi uh for her dope ring attire just
everything yeah she seems so fun she seems like
a like a fun person to hang out with Yeah. My
emeritus pick was Provox, because Provox is good.
Provox is good. They put on the good shit. My
main pick was Al Heyman. We found out about him
paying for Pritchard. He was taking care of Pritchard
Colon's family. Yeah. Medical bills, living expenses.
He's been taking care of them. Nobody knew. yeah
and like it's still a great thing to do even
if everybody knows but when you do it quietly
it means more it really does yeah that's why
i picked him as my hero like i i am i favor like
al hayman over the other promoters but that this
yeah this isn't uh i don't know this is just
on a different level of like taking care of your
guys Yeah. And Pritchard Cullen wasn't even one
of his guys. He just took care of him for the
sake of doing it. For the good of the sport.
Yeah. Yeah. And fight of the year, last pick.
What do you got? Okay, so I got three. And, of
course, I'm quite biased always. Everybody likes
me for my biases, I think. My non -biased. Or
not because of my bias pick. Eubank versus Ben
was a banger. I really did enjoy that. As much
as it's Brit slop, it's a manufactured fight
that never should have really happened. It was
fun as fuck and I liked it. I liked the fight
itself, like all action, the kind of shit that
I love, very little defense. But this one I even
liked the build up a little. I really liked it.
uh eubank senior chris eubank senior is fucking
hilarious and such a weird cat he's weird and
yeah and his his coat his i hate my son he's
disrespecting the sport he's embarrassing me
and then showing up on fight night with a shit
-eating grin of oh yeah you guys all believed
me in his fucking fur coat everything about it
was great They nailed the handicap, I think,
on Eubank size -wise. Like, in all honesty, without
that weight and that rehydration clause, Eubank
knocks Ben out. Probably. But they weight -drained
him and dehydrated him just enough to get a banger
fight. And they fucked him on .05 of a pound.
Yeah. That is nuts. Yeah, 0 .05 of a pound. 0
.05, not half a pound. It was half an ounce.
Yeah. Yeah, fucking crazy. My other honorable
mention for fight of the year is Taraji versus
Akui. Not fight of the year because that was
a bullshit stoppage and they robbed Akui of his
upset of the year, in my opinion. That's the
one where they stopped it in the 12th round.
He was rocked. But he hadn't gone down. He wasn't
laying on the ropes. And they didn't even give
him a count. They waived it. It was crazy. Bullshit.
But the fight up to then was a banger. And for
me, fight of the year is Tsutsumi versus Higa
2. The one in February. That was excellent. My
favorite fighter, my favorite style, they both
got knocked down. I thought Higa was fucking
out. He went face first to the canvas and got
up. Nobody does that. Nobody goes face first
and gets back up in time for the count. And it
also has a soft spot because this was the card
that my brother was visiting. So the first time
I've gone to a professional fight with my brother,
his very first card. And yeah, fight of the year
for me. Oh, he got spoiled. Oh, so spoiled. He
got spoiled. Yeah, it'll never be matched. But
in all honesty, he'll probably never go to another
fight because we live in the middle of nowhere
and it's just prohibitively expensive. But that's
my fight of the year. And nobody can say that
wasn't a banger. They didn't watch it. It ended
in a draw. It's the only way they could say is
that they didn't watch it. That's how they could
say it wasn't banger. My pick, primary pick,
was B -Volt, Better B of 2. Just had larger implications
for the sport than... Yeah, if you're counting
the, like, effect on the sport. Yeah, yeah, for
sure. Which would have been Tsutsumi Higa, because
that fight was just excellent. And Isaac Cruz
versus Angel Fiero, that was another one that
went under the radar just because it was on a
bigger card, but it was action -packed from start
to finish. Yeah, Pitbull's hardly ever in a boring
fight. I can't think of a single one, really.
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get into some up. Coming shit. This is looking
pretty light as well. Yeah, but we did good with
the mid -year picks. On -topic filler this time
instead of bullshit filler. Really looking up
this card, this is all British stuff. Even the
co -main, Laurence Acoli versus Kevin Lorena.
I'm going to struggle through this one, but whatever.
I'll be watching. Yeah, yeah. I honestly don't
recognize most of the names on the Usyk -Dubois
undercard. Yeah, because Usyk -Dubois is really
the only thing that matters. Two -time Undisputed?
I don't think so. I mean, I know he dropped a
belt, but Usyk's just undisputed. He never lost
it, in my mind. I do think this is going to be
an interesting fight, though. I do think Dubois
is better than the last time they fought. Yeah,
that's a good point, is that Dubois is better.
I don't think Usyk has gotten any worse, even
though he's aged and stuff. I don't think Usyk
is worse. But I do think Dubois is better. And
I don't really know how that's going to play
out. I mean, it makes sense. So, like, Usyk is
smaller and all that stuff, but he's always been
at heavyweight. So it really just is, can Dubois
adjust enough? In my mind, that's the question.
Usyk's going to come out and do Usyk things.
And nobody has figured out how to beat Usyk doing
Usyk things. But Daniel Dubois gave him a really
good fight the first time. And Dubois is better.
So is Dubois going to be the first one to crack
him? I don't think so. I personally don't think
so. I still think Usyk's going to get the decision.
I think that's how it's going to go, but I think
it's much more up for question than it was the
first time. That I can agree with, yeah. I'm
not... I'm a... How do you put it? I'm a Daniel
Dubois truther. I don't think that was a low
blow. No, it was not a low blow. I think that
Usyk got caught with a good body shot. Oh, no,
sorry. Sorry, I said that backwards. That was
definitely a low blow. It was below the belt.
It doesn't fucking matter. It was so close and
the ref called it. It doesn't matter. Yeah, that's
what I'm saying. I think the ref made a call.
It's not a bad call. It's not a bad call. Anyone
who says it's a bad call is on crack. That is
a perfectly acceptable in the moment call by
a referee. In that position, like, we have the
benefit of all sorts of camera angles. And you're
also, the people who say it wasn't a low blow
are going by fucking stills. It's not even slow
motion that you guys are arguing with. It's stills
from video. I'm trying to give Dubois the benefit
of the doubt here. I think... So you think he's
going to target the body? Is that going to be
the plan? I think Dubois is going to work the
body again. I'm hopeful that they did the Andrew
Gulotta sort of like put trunks on the heavy
bag so that he knows what's low and what's not.
That's what I'm thinking. That works so well
for Gulotta. Well, Dubois is also not a fucking
moron. Isn't he? I mean, that's a strong statement,
Leo. In the classical sense. In the classical
sense, yes, he might be a moron, but no, I think
he can figure it out. I don't know. I think Usyk
does Usyk things, and Usyk figures out how to
win. That's a tough ask. Even if Tyson Fury couldn't
fucking do it, Anthony Joshua couldn't do it.
I sincerely doubt, as much as I want to believe
in him, Deontay Wilder would have never figured
out these things. No, no. I honestly think Usyk
might have knocked out Deontay Wilder, even in
his best. I recall you saying this before. Yeah.
This is not a new... No, no, this is not a new
take. No. But that being said, I do think Dubois
is better, and he gave Usyk a very hard fight
the first time. And Dubois could be the first
person to really figure it out. He could be.
Maybe. But I don't think so. I have faith in
Usyk, and I just think he's going to do it again.
Usyk's going to figure out a way to win. He always
does. And I just don't think Dubois can handle
the craftiness and the shiftiness of the little
rabbit, as Fury says. Rabbits are hard to catch,
man. And if you can't catch it, you can't kill
it. Isn't that the Rocky with the chickens? Yeah.
Chase the chicken around because it's hard to
catch. But like rabbits are even harder. You
have to set traps. And I don't think Dubois is
a trap setter. No, I don't think so either. So.
Let's move on. Matchroom Boxing at The Star in
Frisco. Are you skipping the... Yes, I am. Okay,
okay. I'm excited for this main event. Me too.
Two cards coming up. Arturo Popoca. I recognize
that name, but Nishant Dev. That's the Indian
Olympian. I don't watch the Olympics. I don't
recognize Nishant Dev. Yeah, he's still 2 -0,
so there's not a whole lot to really recognize
here. Fighting Omar Rosales at 9 -5? 9 -5 is
a pretty good step up when you're 2 -0. Yeah,
no, I just meant, like, it's... A very reasonable
opponent. Yes. You usually just read both names.
Good point. Diego Pacheco versus Trevor McCombie.
This is going to be interesting. Yeah. McCombie
really impressed me against Plant. And I don't
know that Diego Pacheco has had a very good test
yet. It'll be interesting. I can't think of who
Pacheco's toughest opponent was. Let's... Steven
Nelson? Who's Steven Nelson? I just don't know
who it is. He came in with the jean shorts, the
sagging jean shorts trunks. You remember that?
I remember the trunks, but I don't remember the
fight. I don't remember the fight at all. I remember
the trunks and being angry. It was a tough battle
for Pacheco. Okay. But do you think that's a
bigger test than McCombie? No. I think it's a
comparable test to McCombie. Okay. Like I said,
McCombie really impressed me against Plant. Yeah.
I was surprised. So I'm excited for this fight.
I do think Pacheco's just good, though. But I
don't think we've seen how good Pacheco is yet.
Like, I don't think he's had a really hard fight
where we see what he's really made of. You know
what I mean? Yeah, yeah. He might be a bit of
a hype job, and I'm just drinking the Kool -Aid.
I don't know. If you're drinking the Kool -Aid,
so am I. I'm thinking that Diego Pacheco is going
to make better, easier work of this than... Caleb
Plant did. Yeah. That's a low bar to get over.
I don't think it's that low a bar. Caleb Plant
is a very good boxer. He's on the downside of
his career. But Caleb Plant is a very good boxer.
And if McCombie put hands on Plant like that,
you have to be a good boxer to beat him. Is all
I'm saying. I'm not saying that this means Pacheco...
obviously beats everybody at the weight or anything.
I'm just saying if Pacheco can convincingly beat
McCombie, I think it really... It says a lot.
...puts him up at that kind of world -class level.
And he's young. He's only 24. He's still got
lots of time. So I'm excited for this. I'm excited
to see how Pacheco handles it because apparently
McCombie has a bit of power and he's got the
skills to land it. Sometimes, at least. Like
I said, Caleb Plant's on the downside of his
career, I think. But at the height of his career,
people were talking like he was real good. A
Canelo beater, even. And he gave Canelo a hard
fight. I don't know. I'm excited for this one.
I think it's going to show us a little bit more
of what Pacheco's made of. Speaking of being
young and having plenty of time, Austin Williams
has none of that. He's at 29. He's facing Etinosa
Olija. I don't know who that is. I don't either.
I'm expecting this is a soft touch for Austin
Williams. He's from Italy. He's 21 and 9. And
it looks like he's only ever fought in Italy
and Germany. So I don't have very high expectations.
Yeah. This does look like a soft touch for Austin
Williams. Relatively speaking, is this a soft
touch? Jesse Rodriguez versus Pumelele Kafu.
No. Not a soft touch? Kafu, not a soft touch.
Kafu is better than people think. I know nobody
knows who he is, but I watched his fight against
Tanaka, and it was good. He gave him hell. He
gave him hell that fight. Yeah, that was a really
good fight. Everybody should watch that fight,
number one. Number two, I still think Bam wins.
And Bam's not going to get the credit for finally
beating a world -class opponent that isn't over
the hill. This is going to be that fight. This
is going to be the fight where Bam finally beats
somebody in their prime who is that good. A contemporary.
Yeah, Bam's going to get no credit because Kafu's
from South Africa and nobody except the diehards
like me know who he is. But this is going to
be that fight. And if Kafu upsets Bam, I will
be shocked. But I'm not putting it at a zero.
Like, there's like a 15 % chance. Maybe. Yeah.
10 % chance. Like, it's low. But this is going
to be the hardest test Bam's ever had. I'm saying
it right now. Yeah. Like you said, people who
listen to Boxing Before Dark, you've heard of
Kafu, if nothing else, because we mentioned him.
Yeah. Yeah, this is going to be a good... I don't
know if it's going to be his hardest test or
his best test, but it is a test. Well, in my
opinion, Kafu's a harder test than Sonny Edwards.
But people knew who Sonny Edwards was. I think
Kafu beat Sonny Edwards if he had fought him
at the time that Bam fought him. That is interesting.
maybe contentious but i'm just saying i think
i think kafu is at least as hard to test as sunny
edwards yeah i could put it in that category
like everybody thinks right now that bam is just
like a old man old man killer yeah yeah no this
this is good just because you haven't heard of
him you may not have heard of him does not mean
that he's not good His fight with Kosei Tanaka
was impressive. Pumelele Kafu, check him out.
You would do yourself a service to do a little
film study here. Yeah, he's legit fun, exciting,
and skilled. Yeah. But he hadn't fought outside
South Africa before Tanaka, I don't think. And
so nobody knew who he was. But I went and found
some highlights before that. And his opponents
were maybe not so great. But Kafu's the real
deal. Not as real as Bam. Like, Bam's going to
win this. I'm 90 % sure Bam's going to win this.
You're never 100 % in boxing, really. Especially
when you have a sleeper like Kafu. Like, you
don't want to... lean too hard in in the bam
direction which i was thinking like this is like
a 95 yeah no it's it's hard in the bam direction
like i'm not saying it's not but when bam beats
kafu people need to give him his flower yeah
that's a good way to put it that's actually the
perfect way to to cap it off is when bam beats
kafu Give him his flowers, because Kofu's legit.
Yeah. But I see Bam winning, and maybe making
it look easy, because Bam's just that good, and
everybody's gonna be like, he fights old men
and fucking nobodies. Is what everyone's gonna
say. I can hear it already. And anybody who says
that can meet me in a field, and I will fight
your ass. Speaking of Old Man Slayer, In, where
is this at? The MGM Grand Garden Arena in Las
Vegas, Nevada. Mario Barrios. I don't even want
to watch this. Versus Manny Pacquiao. If this
is pay -per -view. It's going to be pay -per
-view. It has to be. I'm definitely paying for
it. I'm definitely going to pay for it. I'm not
going to pay for it. Fuck that. I might because
it's basically free in Japan because it comes
on at like 4 a .m. There are some good fights
though here. Brandon Figueroa versus Joette Gonzalez.
That's a good fight. Joette is unheralded, but
tough. Really tough. I like Joette. I think he
loses, but I do like him. He's going to lose
because he's going to stand and bang. And standing
and fucking trading with Brandon Figueroa was
just like a really bad idea. But he has to stand
and trade because he's giving up three inches
of height and probably three inches of reach,
I assume. Yeah, close. Close to that. So, like,
what's your plan if it's not to get to the inside
and bang? But the problem is Brandon Figueroa
is good at inside fighting. Yeah, pretty much
if your name isn't Stephen Fulton, getting on
the inside of Brandon Figueroa is a really bad
idea. But staying on the outside isn't going
to work for Gonzalez, so what the fuck's he supposed
to do? Yeah, I guess you're going to have to
try to dive in and make it work. I do think it's
going to be fun to watch, though. As much as
we're saying this is going to be a one -sided
beating, I don't think it's going to be uninteresting.
It'll be entertaining. It might be beating of
the latter half. Yeah, I could see the damage
accumulating, but I think it's going to be a
fun fight to watch while it lasts. Speaking of
fun fights to watch, Isaac Cruz versus Angel
Fierro, the rematch. This was one of my shouts,
like we already did, for fight of the year. Yeah,
I'm going to watch this. This will be good. No
chance I'm missing this. As much as we're talking
shit about the main event, this card might be
worth pay -per -view prices. The undercard is
stacked. I might have to retract my really forced
grunt of not paying for this. Because I would
pay for these three fights. Yeah. These three
alone are... Oh, but if they put it at like a
high dollar value here in the US... No, yeah.
Yeah, maybe not like... Maybe not $80 US, but
if it's like $50 US. Yeah, that I can... I can
handle that. Sebastian Fundora versus Tim Zhu,
the rematch. I am so nervous for Tim Zhu. You
don't think he's over it? I don't think he's
over it. I do not think he's over it. I think
he's going to get in the ring with Fundora and
he's going to have Vietnam flashbacks. Did you
watch the little, like, I don't know what they
call them, but it's not a hype video. But the,
like, background video they did for this one?
I haven't seen it. Okay, you should watch it.
Tim Zhu talking about that cut, you can hear
it in his voice still. That it's still bothering
him? It's still bothering him. 100%, it's still
bothering him. Because Zhu was winning that fight
until the cut. Hands down, he was winning that
fight. I know it's only two rounds, but he was
putting a beating on him for those two rounds.
Okay, yeah. And then even right after the cut,
he was still putting a beating on him. But as
the fight went on, it stopped. More and more
blood. Yeah. I swear to God, he must have been
getting lightheaded. He lost so much blood in
that fight. Like, legitimately blood loss, I
think, was... I was thinking the same thing as
they were going into the later rounds. Like,
why are we still doing this? He's lost a pint
and a half of blood. Right. He's a liter low
right now. What do you think about maybe pulling
the plug here? No, I know people are probably
going to be like, oh, you're overreacting and
you're exaggerating and stuff. I think he lost
enough blood that he was probably starting to
get a little light -handed and a little woozy.
That was a lot of blood. That was bad. I don't
know. I'm nervous for Tim Zhu. If he's over it,
I think he outboxes Fundora. I think Tim Zhu,
mentally on point, beats Fundora pretty easily
without any cuts. I don't know if Tim Zhu's mentally
on point. They put out two YouTube episode things.
One was Pacquiao and Barrios. And the other is
Tim Zhu and Fundora. And both are actually pretty
well done. Like, both are worth a watch. But
the Pacquiao one made me sad. Because he's just
an old man trying to not be an old man. But the
Tim Zhu one made me worried. The Fundora one,
I'm like, fuck, I still like Fundora. It's not
that I don't like Fundora. He's a fun character.
He's so dorky and lovable. I don't know how else
to put it. Like, him and his sister are such
geeks. Yeah, that's what I liked about her. No,
but they're very likable. Honest to God, like,
I'm not cheering against anyone here, but I am
cheering for Tim Zhu to be over his PTSD. Fingers
crossed. Even if he loses, but looks like he's
not scared, I'll be happy. Main event. Mario
Barrios vs. Manny Pacquiao. I don't have a lot
of positive things to say about this. I think
this is a huge waste of time. The three fights
before are good, but this... Yeah, this is a
waste of everybody's time. I don't know why they're
doing this. I've said this before. We don't have
to spend very much time on it. But if Pacquiao
wins, what happens to the division? Is he going
to fight Brian Norman? Don't fucking think so.
But Pacquiao's not going to walk away a belt
holder. Pacquiao is going to take another fight.
There is no fucking chance he retires while he's
holding a belt. Yeah, it's just a matter of who's
it going to be. But I don't want to see him fight
any of them. I don't either. Like, this is what
I mean. Like, best case scenario, if Pacquiao
wins, he retires. And the belt is just vacant.
Waste of time for the division. When Barrios
beats Pacquiao, because Pacquiao's fucking 47
and has no speed and his whole style is based
around speed, we're back where we started. Why
are we doing this? throwing my hands up in like
i just i don't get it no idea why why are we
doing this all i want is for pacquiao to lose
and not get hurt badly that's what i want that's
the best we can hope for which puts us exactly
where we are right now in the division with the
belts and everything a huge fucking waste of
time mario barrios is the weakest champion and
he's stalling for time before he has to face
anybody who actually matters well and like getting
big money and everything else i understand why
barrios is doing this and i kind of understand
why pacquiao is doing this as much as i think
it's super stupid but i don't understand why
the commission is letting this happen i don't
know it's money like i guess i understand it's
money but God damn, it's so stupid and unethical
and a waste of time for the sport. And God forbid
Pacquiao actually fucking gets real hurt. Imagine
if Barrios kills Pacquiao. That's not something
to laugh at. No, that's not something to laugh
at. I mean, it is a possibility. It is. And imagine
how bad for boxing that is. Yeah. That's what
I'm laughing at. How fucking terrible. It's...
I don't have words. I don't have words. Heaven
fucking forbid that happens. It would be terrible.
It's not out of the realm of possibility. I don't
want to jinx anything, and if it does happen,
nobody come at me for jinxing it. But I just...
I don't think the risk -reward is enough on this
one. Yeah, they're gonna make a bunch of money.
But the fucking... downside of the bad outcome
is not worth it to me i guess fucking suleiman
doesn't give a shit but barrios just imagine
the press if pacquiao dies in the ring the only
thing my saving grace here and this is just like
a small glimmer of hope is that barrios fucking
sucks barrios does kind of suck and that's everybody's
glimmer of hope like but is it really worth the
risk no to me it's not of course like i don't
i don't who is this this is the wbc yeah the
wbc is the greediest of the fucking organizations
in my opinion they make the most money -centric
risk reward assessments like money weighs more
to them Than it does to a reasonable human being.
For risk reward assessment. I wonder if they're
related to the JBC. The fucking JBC. Is a different
matter. The JBC is. Cultural bullshit. But. Anything
I say now. I'm just going to sound racist. So
I will stop. But the JBC is all about the. We
need to showcase the Japanese warrior spirit.
And who are we to stop people who want to make
bad decisions? You're the fucking commission.
You're the safety commission. It's your fucking
job to stop people from making bad decisions.
You're the one that's supposed to stop people
from making terrible decisions. But... No unnecessary
rants today. Alright. Anything more for the upcoming
cards? No, I don't think so. I am not excited
for Barrio's Pacquiao. Fortunately, the weekend
is good. That undercard is pretty stacked. Yeah,
the weekend is good. All right, let me do this.
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so we're heading into Usyk Dubois, Bam Kafu,
Barrios Pacquiao. Parting words. I am most excited
for Bam Kafu. That is my fight of the weekend.
Yeah, that's my main event of the weekend. For
sure. Fortunately, Usyk and Dubois line up in
such a way that you won't miss Bam Kafu. Anybody
who's in the West, the timing should work out
well. That is lucky. For you, Usyk, Dubois will
be in the middle of the night, and then Bam Kafu
even later, or more further into the morning?
Yeah, I think the so the British cards usually
start at about 4 a .m. So the main events usually
like six, which sometimes I just don't wake up
for them. This one I'll wake up for to watch
live and hang out with people on Discord. But
and then the American main events are usually
like 10 a .m. Not terrible. No, no, that's not
terrible. But if I want to watch the American
undercards, I got to wake up for like seven.
Which sucks on a Saturday. Quite. Alright, let's
leave it there. That's it for this edition of
Boxing Before Dark. What's the thing? It is getting
dark and my batteries are low. My battery is
getting low. I looked it up. It's a single battery.
It's getting dark and my battery is getting low.