This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
is Boxing Before Dark. Alright. Now we do the
wind up. it the same every time. Hmm. Get into
your pitching motion? Yeah, that's exactly it.
I realize that Lynn fucks up the name. Because
it's dark there. Oh, yeah. The name of the show
is Boxing Before Dark. I mean, I'm basically
nocturnal, so I mean... So the daylight is your
nighttime. If I look outside, it is. quite black
but you know i uh i had a studio jubilee day
yesterday yesterday that nice soft anime rain
and then i took my umbrella and walked to work
and i walked through that abandoned looking area
i sent you some pictures leo with all the yeah
and it's just like plants and they're dripping
the nice gentle rain walk across the bridge on
my way back say hello to the fish Nature has
reclaimed it. I fucked up the timing and had
to go in at 10pm, so I got to walk in the dark
in the rain. This is nice. Alright, we ready
to rock? Yes. Ready to fucking roll. Boxing before
dark. It is very dark where our new homie is.
Lynn, how you doing? Well, um, Yeah, I'm on this
now. I am also on this podcast. Cool. Reasons
of I'm like the only degenerate that talks about
British boxing. Someone needs to serve up the
Brit slop. We also need someone to make fun of
as well. Me and Leo get along too well. Shannara,
you're doing alright over there? Yeah, I'm doing
much better this week. Yes, me too. What are
we talking about? That's one of the lost episodes.
You're going to have to go looking for that one.
You already know where to find it. Yeah, yeah.
Not suitable for the general public. It's all
right. It was a good warming up experience for
Lynn, I think. Kind of get a good feel of the
dynamic. That was generally my fault. I apologize.
Very unprofessional. I'll do better. I did nothing
at all to improve it. to improve the situation
i mean i i woke up drunk and then got talking
to you and it went downhill yeah because i had
been drinking too and so we just continued drinking
that was a terrible idea yeah yeah oh fun are
we past 100 subscribers the other uh yesterday
two days oh really yeah we broke 100 that's that's
really exciting Yeah, I told the guys on B -Sides,
and they're all, like, you know, doing typical
dude stuff, like LFG, chest bumps, and stuff
like that. Man, it's not just you. It's not just
us. You guys are both new. I don't know, Shenandoah
was a bit more a part of that, building that
up. I guess I'm the oldest co -host now, aren't
I? Yeah, I think you passed RGF. Who has longest
tenured for a while. Nice. You're stuck with
me forever, Leo. Yeah, well, don't threaten me
with a good time. Once I leave Japan, I will
be useless for your podcast. Oh, well, we'll
see how we can work it out. Yeah, I got a year
left. Oh, speaking of good times, the NHL playoffs.
Lynn, you're a fucking NHL head, aren't you?
Oh, I'm a good. Yeah, I mean, we made the final.
I'm a Panther fan just for context of anyone
who actually follows the NHL. Where are they
from? Edmonton, Florida. Florida, okay. Yes.
That has not been controversial at all, given
the whole tax thing, but that's a different debate.
Yeah, make the final. We're playing Edmonton.
That'll be fun and exciting. If fucking rat -faced
Brad Marchand wins beating out the Canadian team,
we may have to put Benito on crash at watch.
Look, we beat Edmonton last year. We're going
to beat them again. Fucking Canadians can cry
harder. I don't care. Fucking Florida is half
Canadian anyway. Wait, did you say Canadians
with the E? No, she did not. That's what I was
wondering, because isn't there a team called
the Canadians? Yes, you have the Canadians, and
you have Canadians as in Canadians the country.
But that's mainly just because Quebec exists,
and no one likes Quebec anyway, so... Montreal
doesn't call them the Canadians, though, Leo.
They are the... The old name is the Habitants,
some French bullshit from the colonial days.
Whatever. That's why they have an H in their
logo. I see. And that's why their nickname is
the Hab Survivor, if I recall correctly. I know
that's one of the names they go by. Yeah, the
French Fox. Nobody cares about that. Yeah. We
do not like the French. We'll be shitting on
the French Canadians a little later as well.
Excellent. You know, I would cheer for the Actually,
this is a good segue. If I had a team. If I fucking
had them. What did they name? Utah Mammoth. Speaking
of Frenchmen, the one time I will defend the
Frenchmen, Justice for Sarath. Jaime Munguia
pops for Peds. Did you see which? Was there a
specific one? Exogenous testosterone metabolites.
I don't know which one. So that sounds like straight
-up steroids. Yeah, so exogenous means from outside
the body, and metabolites is... Breakouts. He's
brought in, yeah, he's brought in outside testosterone,
and they found what his body turned it into,
basically. Yep. Oh, that's right. This is your
field of expertise. Well, no. But kind of. Kind
of. But, yeah, and what camp did he just join,
Leo? Oh, he just joined the fucking Reynosos.
Yeah. If I can speak here, this reminds me of
a tweet I saw from a guy called Takeru on Twitter.
He tweets a lot about boxing. Fighters who have
been with Reynoso and... who have at some point
tested positive. Canelo, Oscar Valdez, Ryan Garcia,
Julio Cesar Martinez, Luis Neri, Jaime Munguia.
There's probably more, but I can't be bothered
to look them up. Those are the big names. And
they all popped in Reynoso at some point or another.
It's like they got caught for something and they
switch up their recipe. That is, they are all
getting caught for different things. Exactly.
One person pops, and then they just change it
up. Wow, what a bunch of fucking scumbags. One's
an anomaly, two is a trend. At this point, we're
fucking beyond trends. Three is fire, six trainers,
and a nutritionist or something, right? Right.
Victor Conte went to jail for less. But... Fucking
Jaime Munguia goes on pads and can't even knock
out a Frenchman? What the fuck, Jaime? He had
the endurance to bore the fuck out of everyone
for 12 rounds. Goddamn. That's a test of stamina.
So he can ask for the B sample to be tested and
all that. This is the A sample tested positive
post -fight. So it's not even a pre -fight sample.
It's a post -fight sample, which is worse. Yes.
This is a sample he gave right after the fight,
so anything that was in his system was definitely
in his system during the fight. Yeah. Wow. I,
um... Not like this. Not like this, Trinity.
Munguia, I always took him as, like, a well -meaning,
sort of, like, quiet kid. Yeah, I always really
liked Jaime. And he's a fucking drug cheat. He
went to the Reynosos because they had the good
stuff, is what it is. Well, at some point, they
gotta fucking shut Reynoso down, right? You would
think. You would think. But he's in Mexico. So?
Mexico has a boxing commission. Yeah. And WBC's
based out of Mexico, too. Not like they're gonna
stop. Like, yeah. Yeah. I mean, and it's not
like it's a Mexico -only problem, but I'm waiting
to see what Jaime blames it on. Tainted beef?
Are we going with the Clembuterol defense? He'll
probably just, like, do what a lot of them do,
and he'll be like, oh, I had no idea that was
in my system. It's a complete mystery. We have,
like, no idea. And then he'll probably say, like,
tainted. There'll be, like, something that was
tainted or something. And then everyone will
move on in about three months and forget this
even happened. Yeah. That's what they do. But
I don't think Mungi is... Mungi is a big enough
name, but not a big enough star. Right? Like,
he's a big enough name, everyone cares. But he's
not Canelo to get it swept under the rug. Like,
because Canelo didn't even get suspended, did
he? For the last time he popped? For the one
time he popped? No, he didn't. He just... They
had the Golovkin fight. The Golovkin rematch
was canceled. Yeah, but he didn't really lose
any time or anything. No, not at all. I don't
think Munguia is that big a star. I think Munguia
is going to get... Ryan Garcia, then suspended
for a year. Which Munguia doesn't fight that
often anyways, but... Still, at this age, that's
losing out on some precious time. Maybe not.
I guess it depends on how they try to explain
it. Eggs? Are we going with eggs again? The only...
Wild boar meat? Was Fury wild boar meat? Yeah,
I was going to say, the only time I've heard
somebody try to cover up straight -up steroids
was Tyson Fury. Like, every other time, it's
some kind of... It's a PED, yes, but it's not
a steroid, which kind of... Same, same, but different,
I guess. Is clenbuterol not just a steroid? It's
not a steroid, as far as I know. It helps with...
endurance and uh oh no it's a it is a bronchial
dilator so uh your lungs lungs better yeah it
is abused generally by bodybuilders and athletes
for its ability to increase lean muscle mass
and reduce body fat yep i was thinking anyways
mexico to get some It's like, I'm not being tested
by anybody for anything, so. Why does it matter?
Someone else was talking about it, too, that
I think was more serious than I would have expected.
And I was like, why? He's like, I don't know.
Beach season's coming up. I was like, fuck off,
dude. Hit up Eddie Reynoso. Yeah, no shit. If
you need that good, good. We know who has it.
Let's move into some recent shit. Motherfucking
GBM Sports. Lynn, this is why you're here. Because
I need to understand what's the significance
of... Like, Maxie Hughes, I know his name. Archie
Sharp, kind of know his name. How does this play
into the broader British scene context? Okay,
so... Firstly, this was, like, the only fight
of note on the card. Unless you're gonna be,
like, that one person who likes women's boxing
who's gonna mention Terry Harper was on the card.
I know there's somebody out there. That is Leo.
No, that's Leo. Leo loves women's boxing. He
can handle Terry Harper. Yeah, she beat up some,
like, four -year -old German woman that no one
had ever heard of, which is, like, standard woman
effect. She was undefeated. So, yeah, so I can
kind of give props to it. So, when this fight
got made... I was like, oh, okay. So Archie Shaw
was originally down at 130. His last fight coming
into this was against, I want to say, yeah, it
was Ryan Garner. He lost that fight. I think
it was unanimous decision. Came up to 135 for
this fight. I was like, okay. Maxie Hughes obviously
got robbed against Cambosis, former Undisputed
Champion, just putting that out there. And then...
Yeah, Moses does not deserve that distinction,
though. No, but I have to state the facts here.
Maxie Hughes beat an undisputed champion. A former
undisputed champion. Now, that may be one of
the worst former undisputed champions of all
time, but that's not the point here. We're trying
to gas up Maxie. Yeah, so, like, at the 135 seen
in the UK, like, the three kind of names of no
or at least to me right now, like, I'm not including
Joe Cordino in this because I don't know what
the hell he's doing. You have obviously got Sam
Noakes, who if you've been around the Discord,
you've seen me mention him a bit. Josh Padley,
who obviously fought Shako and Shortnose and
is now with Matchroom. And Maxie Hughes, who
somehow ended up with GBM, which I don't even
know how that happened. But this was a homecoming
fight for him because it was in Doncaster, which
is where he's from. Let me just say now, if you
guys really want to torture yourself, you can
try and dig up the full fight replay for this
if you want on DAZN or wherever you watch it.
Essentially what happens for 12 rounds is Archie
Sharp stood on the back foot, would occasionally
do like a little like, like a taunt to make it
seem like he was doing stuff. But he was basically
just standing on the back foot doing nothing
for 12 rounds and lost the fight by wide unanimous
decision because he didn't do anything. in an
utterly pointless fight where Archie Sharp just
made himself look like a complete twat, simply
put, who will probably now get, like, no real
opportunity for a while. And Maxie Hughes' home
fight was kind of ruined because he had a guy
who didn't come to fight. But Maxie Hughes won,
which is good. I have some brief notes on this.
Nothing major because it's, like, one fight of
note. You haven't gotten into your notes yet?
Well, it's not, like, major notes. It's not major
notes. So for each of the cards we have coming
up today, I got like a point or two, just so
I remember to say them. I'm just fucking with
you, Lin. Don't take it too serious. Sure. One
thing that could be interesting. I don't know
how realistic a fight this is, but both guys
are from around Doncaster. Josh Padley beat Maxie
Hughes at 135 up in Doncaster at some point this
year. Would be incredible. But yeah, Maxie Hughes
won. Not sure who he fights next. GBM have cut,
like what GBM are doing, a lot of their matchmaking
has been more domestic based. So we'll see. I
know they have like some card off in the future
in Ireland or something like that. But yeah,
Maxie Hughes won. Not a whole lot to add because
the rest of the card was like either regional
fighters or women's boxing. And I do not care
enough for women's boxing to even watch it, so
someone else can bring that up. Yeah, no, that's
Leo's wheelhouse. That's all I've got to say.
Leo is American prospects in women's boxing.
I got everybody who weighs less than 126 pounds,
probably. I moved it up because Inouye's talking
about going to 126. He is your ceiling. Yeah,
yeah. Josh Padley... Where the fuck is Maxie
Hughes? I just go off of BoxRec just because
it's a good base. Yeah, I mean, you can look
at this. The 135 scene in here isn't, like, massively
deep, but we got some guys who are, like, 4 -inch
world level. Yeah, like, yeah, I mean, you can
look at this from Baltimore. We got, like, no
-shoes Padley, and then after that, just a complete
chasm. And even getting down to Padley, like,
because he's climbing his way up from the fucking
abyss. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was literally,
like, a complete unknown flying to the Chamberlain
fight. Like, it was crazy. Yeah. I was curious.
He came in on short notice, right? Yeah. I mean,
he was literally on a construction site in another
continent about three days before that fight,
so I'm not sure how much you can really take
away from that. The WBA has him listed as number
four. Maxie? Who, Padley? Yeah. No, Maxie Hughes.
Oh. He's like... I don't know. I didn't look
at... WBA rankings because it's all a bunch of...
I swear sometimes fighters just fall in the rankings.
It's like, who are you? How did you end up there?
The WBO has your Sam Noakes at number one. Is
he a Queensbury fighter? Yes. What's funny is
actually all three of these top three guys are
signed to different promoters. Padley is signed
with Matchroom after the Shakur fight. Maxi is
with GBM and Noakes is with Queensbury. So, if
a fight was to happen between any of those three,
it would be cross -promotional, technically.
So, yeah. We'll see. I want to see, like, two
of them fight. I want to see two of them. Like,
I mean, if you've seen me in the Discord, you
know for a fact I want to see Pathy versus Noakes,
but I also am aware that's probably a fever dream.
Yeah, getting Queensberry to go outside of their
ecosystem. If it's not with top rank, they just
don't do it. Unless somebody's paying a stupid
amount of money for it. Yeah. I don't think there's
a whole lot else to discuss. So, next thing,
which actually does also concern me, is the Queensbury
card that happens. Unless you want to go to the
Shannara with the Japanese one. I was just going
to say that the WBA has Maxie Hughes at number
four and Pitbull Cruz at number eight. Don't
you dare. We got to bring our Mexicans in to
fuck up the British scene. We need to introduce
a war on boxing. Any Mexicans are just legally
banned from fighting a Brit if they have any
degree of competency at boxing. It's just not
allowed. We can't have... Degree of competency
is a really broad term because you could bring
in a no -name and they'll fuck up a British fighter.
Leo, talk about the Terry Harper fight because
I honestly didn't watch this card at all. There's
not a whole lot to say about it. I think Lynn
covered it pretty well. Natalie Zimmerman just
did not have anything that was going to challenge
Terry Harper in any way. So congrats to Terry
Harper. Okay, we can move on to Kingsbury, I
guess. Speaking of somebody that nobody knows.
Yeah, we're going with Ekow Esumen gets the dub
over Josh Taylor, starting from the bottom. Yes.
Moses Itauma. Is it too early to say that Itauma
has that real deal potential? Not too early for
potential. The potential's there. But it's too
early to tell if he's the real deal or not. I
mean, Deontay Wilder knocked out like 40 of these
motherfuckers in a row. And look how that turned
out. And Tyler is the best prospect at heavyweight.
That's just a fact at this point. I think the
top heavyweight prospect just bar none. Like,
who's better than him as a force factor, anyway?
Like, are we gonna get Americans trying to tell
me that Richard Torres Jr. would beat Atalma?
Like, that's not happening here. Oh. I fucking
love Richard Torres. So do I, but he's not beating
Atalma. Not with that attitude. But he's so cute.
Yeah, but that doesn't mean that he's gonna beat
Atalma. No, I didn't say he'd beat him. I said
I like him more. I like those guys, but I feel
like Atalma would just... Genuinely, I feel like
a tower could literally kill Richard Torres Jr.
in the ring. Just straight up. I keep saying
that Richard Torres should move down to cruiserweight.
He's the perfect size. He just needs to cut a
little bit of muscle and he'll be fine. Should
go bridgerweight. Somebody else added a bridgerweight,
right? There's two now? WBA, I think. Yeah. It's
big guys. I don't give a shit. Yeah, it's semi
-big. I don't know the distinction anymore. Hold
on. Anything over 154 is big. Alright, continuing
on. Nathaniel Collins. This is one that I needed
some help with. Who the fuck is Nathaniel Collins?
Who is William McGregor? Okay, so I can give...
Alright, how much Brit Lord do you want on this?
Because I actually know, not like a massive amount,
but I'm aware of both guys. Hang on, I've got
to drag this thing up quickly. Because I know
them. I want to get specific names they've fought.
Because I obviously have not. So, Nathaniel Collins,
former British featherweight champion, beat Zack
Miller, who's the current British featherweight
champion. And then boxed for the EBU silver belt,
which is some, well, he beat some no -name Italian
and didn't look great. And then I'm pretty sure
he was mentioned he had, like, surgery not too
long after that fight. So, yeah, took some time
out of the ring, came back, coming into this
fight. Lee McGregor was signed with Wasserman.
He lost to Ayala, who, funny enough, is a Mexican,
because of course it is. McGregor was coming
into it off the back of a win. I think that was
the Music Fury 2 undercard against Isaac Lowe.
Nothing win. Didn't look massively impressive.
Coming into this fight, Collins wasn't a massive
puncher, so I just thought he'd outbox McGregor
and win a decision. And after three rounds, it
was quite interesting because Collins was doing
well. McGregor had a good second round, mainly
because he just got on top of Collins and kind
of just pushed him back against the ropes. Smothered
him a little bit. Basically, he got on the end.
I'm trying to recall the parts of the fight I
remember, but round three came, Collins picked
up that round pretty clearly, boxed pretty well.
Round four came, and I was like, okay, 2 -1 Collins,
we've got a fight on our hands here, it's getting
going. And then McGregor just fell apart, got
dropped I think two or three times, and that
was that. I'm pretty sure I was the third knockdown
at the corner throwing the towel. By far... The
most, like, high -level, big, like, best performance
that he's had. McGregor's definitely better than,
I think, the guys that he was fighting before.
Collins wins. McGregor loses. Fairly anticlimactic
in the end. Because I was expecting this fight,
like, if it was going to be stopped, it was going
to be late. I thought this fight would be, like,
clear decision. But, no, Collins got it done
early. I don't know if he's ranked highly with
some alphabet body. Nathaniel Collins is number
four by the WBC. Yeah, I know he was, like, hiding
around to someone. When I was looking at... So,
kind of, like, what I've done in my notes, though,
I kind of know the guy that could be an option.
One guy who's ranked... So, here's the thing.
Collins is ranked number four, but do not in
hell give this guy anywhere near a world title
fight next, because I'm telling you, he gets
destroyed. Bruce Carrington is a guy who I'm
pretty sure is going to be... If we're going
down the WBC route, he's going to be a target.
Of Collins. One name I've noted down... Well,
he's ranked number one by the WBC. Yeah, isn't
he fighting for some interim belt against someone,
I think, soon? One thing I've noted down here.
Could we see... I'm not sure if this will come
next or what. Collins v. Seguera. Because Seguera
was the guy who gave Carrington the toughest
fight of his test. And if Collins can win that
fight, that then sets up the fight with Carrington.
If you want to go that way longer term. Because
he's already ranked highly, so he doesn't necessarily
have to, you know, go out there and win 3, 4,
5, 5 -8 before he gets to Carrington. Did you
say Sagawa? Sagawa, yeah. Sagawa, Sagawa, I don't
know. Sagawa would fuck up Collins, no question.
Maybe, but I mean, he's ranked below Collins,
so... Collins can't hit hard enough. This is
the African guy, Leo. You remember Sagawa, right?
Oh, Suleiman Sagawa, yeah, I remember him. Yeah,
he... fucks Colin up so badly. That dude has
a chin. A chin, and he hits too hard, and Collins
isn't gonna be able to keep him up. You gotta
be on your P's and Q's. Maybe, but Collins is
ranked above him, so it would make sense to see
if Collins is a legit top 10 guy. I mean, yeah,
but I don't think he is. I mean, this is boxing.
You have to come correct. Collins is serious
because I know for a fact he's serious about
this. So, I mean, if he wants to establish himself
as a top 10 guy in the division, I mean, there's
your fight. Seagal is not the one to pick. No.
Not if you're expecting him to use him. I'm sure
there's some other names around there. Well,
just style -wise, he's not the one for Collins
to pick. No, not at all. You've got to come perfect
to make that work. Frank will find someone. He'll
find... Knowing Queensbury, they'll probably
pick some, like, Italian bum that somehow ended
up with some trinket belt, and he'll end up in
some positions that end up in a world title fight.
He could fight Raleigh. Oh. Or not Raleigh. The
fuck. The other one. Robesi. Oh. That's actually
one that could be made. That's, like, a top rank
to Queensbury thing. Robesi Ramirez? Yeah. The
Cuban? Oh, yeah. He could get beat by a Cuban,
but he won't get hurt too bad. That's assuming
Robesi doesn't get, like, tapped on the eye and
kind of, like, drops out. Yeah, I mean, I kind
of... But I'm just saying, like, that's a much...
Much more winnable. More winnable and higher
reward. Nobody knows who Sagawa is except us.
Sickos. I mean, I kind of said coming into this
fight that I didn't think either guy would go
beyond European level, so... We'll see what Collins
does. So, yeah. Well, speaking of seeing how
somebody can do, Ekau Essaman. Where does he...
We're not gonna mention Yumbi. Who? I don't know
who that is. I don't know. It was on the main
card. He fought David Jameson. He's like a cruiserweight
that is actually kind of not awful, but also
not amazing. He... Yeah, he's a fighter. It was
on the main card. Their cruiserweights, no one
cares. Josh Taylor in the WBO, which would be
his preferred ranking, he's 11th versus Ekow
Esselman at number five. So Ekow Esselman with
this win enters title contention. He's at that
level with a win over Josh Taylor. Am I underrating
Josh Taylor here? Josh Taylor hasn't looked good
in a long time. He's been ass for a minute. I
don't want to hear this revisionism because if
you go look at the server and you go have a look
at what people were predicting for this fight,
most people were predicting Josh Taylor to win
this fight. Let's not act like, oh, Taylor wasn't
good, Esserman was always going to win, blah,
blah, blah. No, people were picking Taylor to
win this fight. He was a massive favorite. We're
saying that... Ekow Esserman is not that good,
and Taylor should have beat him, and he looked
like shit. Yeah, fair. I mean... It's not revisionism,
it's... What the fuck, Taylor? I was expecting
a dub here. I was expecting an easy dub. Well,
after the opening couple of rounds, it looked
like he was going to win this fight pretty easily.
But Taylor always gases. That is a problem he
has. And apparently he is not very, um... dedicated
to boxing when he's not boxing. Yeah, I've heard
he has some drinking issues. He's Scottish. I
mean, you kind of have to. It's in our blood.
I had a quick gander at the CompuBox numbers
before this because I was curious. On my eyes,
it looked like Taylor Gastel. So I kind of looked
at this. One first stat I will read. Echo Esserman
outlanded Taylor 63 -31 in power punches in the
final four rounds of this fight. Yeah. So, basically,
for every one punch, Esserman was throwing double
up. Yeah. Josh Taylor's jab in this fight landed
at 3 .6%. Taylor always had a shit jab, though.
3 .6%. That's a sad number. When I looked at
the numbers, I think Esserman was right about
11. That is a sad number. I'm pretty sure he
lied. I'm pretty sure the comment number said
he lied about two chaps this entire fight or
something like that. Like, crazy. Yeah. What
was Taylor's actual last win? It was Jose Ramirez,
right? Uh, well, what? No. Clean win. That's
not a real win. Well, I mean, officially. I said
real win, not official win. That was fucking
four years ago. Taylor hasn't been good for a
long time. I felt he didn't look too bad in Catapult
2, but that was mainly because Catapult looked
kind of assed up for it, rather than Taylor actually
looking that good. That's what I mean, though.
The last time Taylor looked really good was fucking
years ago. It also doesn't help that he's inactive.
Like, if you look at his history fight, he had
one fight in 2020, which was a one -round knockover
job. Then he had the Ramirez fight in 21. Then
he only had one fight in 22, which was Caterpillar
1. He fights once a year. Yeah, then he had the
T .O. fight, which was his only fight of 2023.
He took a year out to take the Caterpillar rematch,
and then takes another year out, and then loses
to Esserman. Honestly, I think Taylor's probably
done. He should retire, yes. I mean, Echo Esserman,
I've watched his last two fights. He got dropped
and was losing pretty badly before he got a final
round stoppage to a guy called Owen Cooper. That
probably tells you the level he was fighting
at. Taylor should have won this fight. Yeah,
I mean, if he doesn't retire after this, I don't
even know where he goes. What do you do with
him? You get another guy that's on his way up
the ladder and you continue putting... josh taylor
in front of them he's like the i mean a gatekeeper
at this point taylor's gonna sell out in glasgow
fucking every time doesn't matter but like at
what point you go yeah no he's done like if he
can't even beat domestic level buddhist fighters
like who are like past their prime like what
where what fight is there for him like no that's
what we're saying but he's also just a star like
As much as people don't like him, Josh Taylor
is a big name. So he can just fucking victory
lap losses his way around Scotland for the next
five years if he wants to. I don't know if he
has five years left in him. I don't think so.
I just mean he could. Yeah, if he really wanted
to, he could squeeze five years out of it. But
if he's going to keep doing this one fight a
year shit, cutting way too much weight more weight
than he's and not taking care of himself than
it is yeah you should fight boots next because
that's a really good fight to make jesus it's
the fight yeah just one thing to add uh josh
taylor's 34 which 147 is pretty old i think it
is so yeah i mean maybe like one last fight in
scotland against somebody but i doubt it Let's
keep it moving here. May 24th. The Kameda promotions
in Osaka, Japan. Let's start from the top on
this one. Angelo Leo versus Tomoki Kameda. Majority
decision. Is it that Angelo Leo underperformed
or did Tomoki Kameda overperform? Kameda looked
way better than anyone thought he would. Kameda
looked good and he didn't fight like his usual
self either. It was a much more tactical fight.
I don't know. I expected Kameda to bang, and
he just didn't. That's what I thought. I was
expecting exactly that. Like, he was going to
try to live up to the Mexican moniker that he
carries. He did. He did out -Mexican Leo, though.
Or Leo. He 100 % out -Mexican Leo in the walkout
and the clothes and the whole bit. Yeah, his
ring attire was all red, white, and green. There
was a lot of pundits also giving Leo shit that
Kameda's Spanish is better than his, too. Which
is probably true. Angelo Leo's a Chicano kid.
Yeah, and Kameda lived in Mexico for like a decade.
Not Albuquerque. What do you expect from him?
No, I think this was Kameda looking good. Yeah.
Okay. I kind of thought Kameda was going to just
look like Kameda, but I don't think he's done
yet now. No, no. I was honestly walking into
this. I was thinking like, man, this is probably
like Angelo is going to do what he does or do
what he did, at least with Venado. And he's going
to over deliver. I didn't think he'd get the
knockout. I thought nobody, nobody's knocking
out any of the Kameda. I thought at 42 and four,
that's, that's some serious mileage. So I was
thinking, but they're all unanimous losses or
not unanimous. What's the word? Decision losses.
Yeah. I just thought the mileage was there that
it would have been like the perfect storm. Nah,
I don't, I don't think anybody's knocking Kameda
out for a while still, but. Leo looked good,
but I just think everybody expected him to look
better against Kameda, if you know what I mean.
Yeah, I got you. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah,
Kameda overperformed. I was happy to see it,
actually. Like, I kind of thought Kameda, like
you, I thought the mileage was there, and I thought
it was just going to be Leo kind of beating him
up for 12 rounds. It was not. Lynn, did you catch
this Japanese barn burner? Oh, I did not, actually.
Barnburn, I say. Yeah. I mean, I knew it was
a fight. I wasn't massively interested in, obviously,
like, Japan. The timing. Time zone and stuff.
Time should have been not terrible for you. I
don't know. I mean, I sleep until, like, I don't
even remember what day that was. Like, I, like,
time in my head is just a blur at the moment.
It would have been a Saturday morning, kinda
early, maybe, like, 8? I was probably sleeping.
Oh, no, that would have been the day that I slept,
like, super, like, some... Oh, wait, no, wasn't
that the... Yeah, because that was the day...
That was the day that we recorded. Yeah, that
was the day I was up until, like, 9am, so I was
really sleeping until, like, I had to get up
and then the brick caught on and stuff. You overnighted
it. I got like a few hours. I slept that day
at about 8, 9 a .m. and I woke up at like, I
think about 1, 2 -ish. And then, yeah. What weight
class is this one? 126. I was just looking at
the names. He's at number 6 on BoxRec. Ahead
of him, Brandon Figueroa, Luis Neri, Fulton,
Nick Ball, and Espinosa. I don't rate his chances
very well against Figueroa. Or Espinosa. That's
pretty much it. Who's Matsumoto? Ah, never mind.
It doesn't matter any Japanese name I say. They
won't fight the Kamedas. The Kamedas are still
pretty blacklisted in Japan. Oh, yeah. They're
southern boys. Well, no. The Kamedas are actual
gangsters. Oh, well. Well, in that case. Like,
not kind of. Like, the Kamedas definitely were
in bed with the Yakuza. That's why they moved
to Mexico. Bullshit. They were avoiding the law.
Well, that is a little bit of rumors. But the
rumor is that they were fucking around with the
Yakuza enough that the law was after them, but
also some of the other Yakuza were after them.
That's why they went to Mexico. The story, the
official story, is more... Sparring and improving
and all that sort of stuff. Better fight environment.
Yeah. I don't think that's why they left Japan
for, like, six years. I choose to ignore all
the information that you just delivered. They
moved to Mexico for better sparring and training
opportunities. But the only... What's the promotion
that does Nishida? It's not one of the majors.
Muto. The Muto boxing gym. Yeah, you got it.
I don't know where I got an O, but we did. It
ends in O. He's from Osaka. Anyways, Muto would
probably work with the Kamedas because they just
don't. They're not big enough. Yeah. That's why
Nishida is so hard to buy tickets for. You know
what wasn't great? Pedro Taduran. Filipino. Split
decision over Ginjiro. Shigeoka. This was a really
good fight. It was. Until the end. Throughout,
all the way up to the final bell, I was like,
wow, that was fucking entertaining. I did not
expect that level of entertainment from strawweights.
Or that level of power kind of power punching.
Well, this was a rematch. Yeah. Wasn't it? Yes.
Yeah. They fought a year, almost a year ago.
And Shigeoka got knocked out. Like, rough stoppage
knocked out, but knocked out. Technical knockout.
And I had thought he had a broken orbital bone,
but it wasn't. It was orbital shelf, which is...
The, like, underneath and behind your eye part
that separates your eyeball from your brain.
So, ten months ago -ish, he had a broken brain
casing. Functional portion. Yeah, like, not the
aesthetic shit in your face. Yeah. The part that
makes your eyes work. Well, the part that keeps
your brain... connected where your brain belongs
oh yeah and not like in your nose right it's
what separates your brain from your eyes and
your nasal cavity and the fucking jbc let him
fight the same guy in 10 months what the fuck
japan yeah but the fight itself was great and
everybody always says that the little guys have
no power but right now minimum weight has some
killers And everybody's gonna tell me I'm fucking
delusional. But it's true. I would have to agree.
I'm also fucking degenerate, though, so, like,
who cares what I think? But, like, who's the
little Mexican guy? Collazo is Puerto Rican.
Okay. So, sorry. But that guy gets knockouts.
Sure does. Like, real shut -your -brain -off
knockouts. But as weird as it is to say, I think
Shigeoka was just too small for boxing. He's
a tiny guy. He made Taduran look huge by comparison.
Yeah. Like, I don't think Shigeoka does much
of a weight cut for 105. If there was a division
below 105, he should fight at that. Yeah. He's...
I think... I have to check. But I was thinking,
like, is he an actual little person? No, he's
not that small. He's 5 '0". Okay, so he's right
on the cusp of it. He's just delicate. Like,
small -boned. But anyways, I guess for anyone
who didn't watch it and doesn't follow Japanese
boxing, we haven't actually said what happened
yet. Oh, right. So... uh shigeoka looked good
during the entire fight right up to the end of
round 12 and like he didn't look that buzzed
he didn't look hurt really at all he fought right
to the 12th afterwards he kind of looked a little
um disappointed more than anything i think well
see i was a little He kept shutting his eyes.
That's what I was worried about. He's closing
his eyes and wobbling around a little bit. But
he didn't wobble until after they announced it.
It was minutes after the final bell. And then
all of a sudden he wobbled. And his team was
yelling at him. And they called the doctor and
the ambulance. And at one point, I do think he
kind of... He didn't collapse, like, but somebody
held him up, I think. He sat down in the stool
of his own accord. Did he? Okay. Yes. But it
was at that point, like... Shit looked bad. Yeah,
it was the same fucking story as Anaguchi. As
soon as he sat down... Except Anaguchi looked
bad at the end of the fight. The whole time.
Yeah, you're right. Yeah. You're right. It was
just like... Like, Shigeoka didn't look that
bad. You're that's yeah, you're right. That's
what was more surprising was that he didn't look
that bad. And then he sits down and suddenly
he never got knocked down. No, not you wouldn't
even call any of those like for the amateur aficionado
is like not there weren't even any like standing
eights. No, he he looked good the whole fight.
And then he did. collapse isn't the right word
but he looked like shit and they got the stretcher
and they stretchered him out and he was like
rubbing his nose and stuff on the stretcher and
he looked like he was responding to people on
the stretcher but they took him to the hospital
uh he had swelling on his brain they had to do
a craniotomy where they take a piece out of your
skull to relieve the pressure he's officially
been retired by the jbc because he's young yeah
he's in his 20s uh he doesn't have his name on
his age on box rec but i think i think he's 24
ish like he's young young and uh so they did
the surgery and they me and you have a different
interpretation of the press release i thought
they were keeping him under sedation so far and
they haven't actually woken him up but he is
no longer on a ventilator The no longer on a
ventilator is definitely correct, but you read
it as he was awake. I read it as he was still
asleep. I read it as he was, even if it was marginally,
but he was still aware of the people around him
and what was happening. That's how I took it,
but I could be completely wrong. I read it as
they were still keeping him anesthetized, basically.
Like he's in a doctor -induced sleep. Not a,
I can't wake up sleep. Shigeoka's 25. October
18th. That's really young. Yeah. So it seems
more promising than Anaguchi. Yeah. Anaguchi
never got off the ventilator. No, that was just
like bad news every day. He also didn't live
this long, so. From his brother, Yudai, I'm going
to read his little press statement. It's been
translated by Google, I assume. Yeah, it's a
translated version, so there are some parts...
That don't translate very well. Yeah, we'll get
to that. I'm sorry to have worried everyone about
Ginjiro. It's the fifth day since he was hospitalized.
They say the next week will be the most critical.
At first, he needed a respirator, but now he
can breathe on his own, and other indicators
don't seem to be getting worse. If he can get
through the next two or three days, the doctors
will be able to tell us about the next steps.
I'm sure everyone's support and wishes are reaching
Gein. I guess shorthand. He's trying desperately
to live. Gein has never given up before. He's
strong, so he'll be fine. I believe in him too.
I'll let you know if anything else happens so
that you can feel at ease. Please leave it to
me. Please continue to pray for him. Thank you.
Yeah, so. The one part that I. took as a like
mistranslation is he's trying desperately to
live i think i feel like that translated into
something worse than what it really was is that
like he's just i don't know he's in the condition
he's in and he's trying his best but i don't
know about desperately uh maybe i don't know
yeah i don't know it's sad i'm not sure This
sounds more promising than Anaguchi. Absolutely.
But we'll see how he does when he wakes up. If
he wakes up. Within days of Anaguchi, we were
already hearing, like, he's struggling on the
ventilator. Yeah. He's not responsive to, like,
physical stimuli. It got pretty fucking dark.
Pretty fast. Yeah. This sounds a little bit quicker.
But, Hatteran... has shown that he is top of
the division style. So Collazo has two belts.
Melvin Jerusalem has the other one. Do you think
you go for unification against Jerusalem? That's
a Filipino on Filipino thing. I'm not sure if
they're going to do that. I don't know culturally
how the Filipinos get down with stuff like that.
Like Mexican on Mexican battles, people love
that shit. but i i could see this is so small
nobody else in the world cares yeah have an all
filipino match in manila or what yeah manila
yeah yeah okay i said it and then i wasn't sure
but like i could see filipino filipino in the
philippines and then go knock off this puerto
rican in america would be cool although america
doesn't give a shit yeah they would probably
bring clear also to manila yeah that would be
pretty dope to have an undisputed fight in uh
in manila yeah i i would be here for it i would
like to see it i think i think filipino versus
filipino and then undisputed anyone who cares
is gonna be in the right time zone for manila
i mean the only people that are gonna watch it
are gonna be me and a bunch of Japanese, Thai,
Filipino dudes. I bet, though. Philippines versus
Puerto Rico is a thing. It's a rivalry because
of Pacquiao and Cotto. Yeah. They'll play that
up for sure. You could put an undisputed minimum
weight on the Puerto Rico Day fight card as,
like, co -main. And show the fucking world how
fun these dudes are. Like, all these guys can
bang. Jerusalem's probably the weakest. Yeah,
he's more of the boxer type that I've seen. Yeah.
But the other two have knockout power. It might
take 50 fucking punches, but they throw 100 punches
around anyways. They're bruisers, not, like,
one -hitters. Well, Collazo can one -hit. True.
That's a true statement. I mean, he won't every
time, but he can. Holy shit. Looking at the time.
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That's for me to know and you to find out. Eye
of the Tiger on June 5th. This is some shit that's
coming up. Who had notes on this one? Was it
Lynn? I have notes. I have notes, because I'm
not, like, super familiar with the Canadian scene,
but I watch their cards here and there, because
I know a Canadian that follows this stuff that
I speak to. So, the weird part about this card
is, like, basically, like, everything was TVA
on BoxRec and, like, online until about the last
couple, like, literally until about, I think,
yesterday at the time of recording this. So...
In terms of who we have on this card, I'll just
bring it up because I have the notes, but I can
look at this more in depth and it's easier. So
originally, this was going to be a... So you're
going to have Vyazlinov on this card, who's obviously
signed with them and he's a name at 140. And
you're also going to have Katayev. But obviously
now Katayev is fighting Moel next month, so he's
no longer on this card because obviously if he
takes a bad card or whatever, that fights off.
So on this card, we have Albert Ramirez, who
I've only ever seen one fight of him. That was
his last fight. He's a 20 -0 guy. He's fighting
some no -name fighter. Like, this entire card
is just entirely mismatches. There are some names.
Standard Eye of the Tiger. Yeah. Yeah, basically.
It's in Montreal, right? Yeah. Yeah, there's
going to be some gambling stuff. I mean, it's
at a casino, so... Yeah. Meme Una, who was a
former Olympian. Well, I say Olympian. I'm pretty
sure he went to, like, one fight at the Olympics
and lost. But that still technically makes you
an Olympian if Pat Brown's being called an Olympian.
He's fighting some guy who I looked at his BoxRec
page. Firstly, he looks about 17. And secondly,
he's coming up from 167, where he just lost for
the Polish super middleweight title. So any degenerates
got any knowledge on that guy, then I'm here
for that. 8 -3 -3 -5 -8 -9 -7 -6 -3 -7. He might
look 17, but he's 27. Yeah, I mean, allegedly
he's 27. Those box sex photos are always fucking
old. Yeah, he... Apparently he's been stopped
before. Oh, okay, that was like way back in the
day. But regardless, Christopher Guerrero, who's
a guy I've watched his last couple of fights,
he's pretty solid. He's fighting a guy who, as
a British fan, I actually can give some mild
info on. Williams Andres Helena, who with a name
like that shockingly isn't Ecuadorian or Venezuelan
or Colombian. He's actually Argentinian. He's
boxed twice in the UK. One was when he got stopped
by Paddy Sullivan, and the other was when he
lost a unanimous decision 10 rounds to none on
all three cards against Pat McCormick on a match
we ran the card. Well done. So, I mean, the guy's
got some degree of durability, I guess. Yeah.
He doesn't come to lay down for the A -side,
if there's, for whatever that's worth. I mean,
he'll probably, I mean, he'll give Cabrera rounds.
I don't see him winning. He'll give him good
work. Yeah, I mean, he'll survive. I mean, that's
better than the average eye of the Tiger management
opponent. Bjarzanov was always confirmed on this
fight. I think there was rumors going around
that he was going to fight some South African,
but that's not happening now. Yeah, it's... a
very one -sided car, but there are names on there
that I would suggest watching for, because they're
pretty good. Like, Villar's love is solid. Guerrero's
solid. You know, Ramirez didn't particularly
impress me in their last fight, but they've got
an undefeated record, so they're at, like, heavyweight.
They might blow up a world title shot at some
point. And, yeah, Fedor is a prospect. So, yeah.
I will say one thing for Collado. Collado, he
never fought outside of Spain, while Bruno Saras
never fought outside of France. Sandor Martin
had never been outside of Spain until he fought
Mikey Garcia. We'll see what he does, but I'm
seeing three KOs in 19 fights. I made so much
money on that, Leo. Well, for me. I never bet
big. Not life -changing money, but I made so
much money on that. If you're expecting some
50 -50 wars, don't watch this card. But if you
want to watch some guys beat up some cans, yeah,
you can kill off a couple of hours of this. That's
what I'll do. That's what I'll probably do. This
is a card on the Thursday. And so the way that
I always bring it up is, like, if you are hankering,
you're just fucking jonesing for some boxing.
Like, it's a Thursday night. You don't have shit
else to do. There's going to be Eye of the Tiger
on ESPN. So there you go. But don't expect it
to be pro box. Don't expect good competitive
boxing. You're getting boxing, but it's not necessarily
the best. Speaking of toy box, the next card
is in the U .S. that is to discuss, and I will
now hand it back over to you two. June 6th, Star
Promotions and Salida Promotions are doing a
collab. I don't have a whole lot of information
on this. Brandon Moore versus Stanley Wright.
There you go. Oh, I know why I made the cutoff
where I made it. Wendy Toussaint is a hilarious
name for this man. Just click on his picture.
Yeah, I know Wendy Toussaint. Yeah, it's just
a really funny name to me. That's why I put this
card on the outline. I do this shit all the time
on Ultimate F 'n Casuals where it's like... I'm
watching these Muay Thai cards, and you know
how Thai names can be. I fucking love Thai names.
That one company that bought everybody and gave
them kitty cat names. Yeah, like Pet Garfield,
Pet Kitty, Pet Gato. Like, get the fuck out of
here. I think there was like a Mr. Fluffy. Fucking
love it. Yeah, Wendy Toussaint is a fun name.
He's not the first Toussaint I've met. But I've
never met a dude named Wendy before. That's a
first. I did know somebody who was super annoying
whose name was Wendell that everybody called
Wendy. Moving on to Queensberry on the... Oh,
no. Wasserman. Yes. Now, I'm going to get this
over quickly because it's a Wasserman card and
there's not a whole lot to discuss. There's like
two names on the card that I think... Anyone
outside the UK needs to know. Which are Josh
Kelly's headlining. You know, he was a prospect
once. He's a guy. And then he actually bought
someone good and got immediately destroyed. We
talked about Josh Kelly before. Yeah, we've mentioned
him a few times. And also on this card, I'm not
sure why he's with Wasserman. I don't know if
he signed with them or what. Or if he's just
here for a fight. Because I'm pretty sure he
was with, I want to say Matchroom before. Felix
Cash is back on this card. Felix Cash is a name
I recognize. Yes. He actually stopped Denzel
Bentley back in the day. That's how I know him.
He was a very good fighter. Probably gave Jalabek
one of his toughest fights. Felix Cash has done
nothing since. He had two low -level fights and
then came back to fight Tyler Denny last year.
And that fight ended early due to a cut due to
an accidental clash of heads. I'm just looking
at what it says on Volkswagen. So he hasn't boxed.
since then and that fight was in june of last
year so he would have been out the wing for almost
a year uh he he's not he's not fighting anyone
notable it's a guy who has a record of 2017 and
one and he's 39 if you want to see blood though
felish cash is the guy to watch because he cuts
every fucking fight and half of them are bad
yeah i mean we'll see how he looks but he i don't
know what he's doing with this because he's he's
32 now He's done nothing since he stopped Bentley,
which has aged well. And now he's on a Wasserman
card. And, like, if you're in British boxing
and you're ending up on a Wasserman card, that's
a sign your career is not going well. It's good
to know what the context of Wasserman is. Because
I know them because the Sauerland Brothers, they
sponsored the World Boxing Super Series. That
was, like, seven years ago. Okay, yeah. Well,
I mean, they're the dude to have Harlem Eubank.
They also signed Michael Conlon lately, who,
I mean, I don't know why he's come back to boxing.
That dude is hooked. But, I mean, I guess they
can cash him out in one last fight somewhere
on the domestic scene, which is his level now.
I wanted Mickey Conlon to be good. I wanted it
so bad. Yeah, I mean, it just sometimes doesn't
work out when you turn pro. I mean, I honestly
thought after... I get it. It just made me sad.
Who was the guy he thought that he got destroyed
by? Jordan... Yeah, it was Jordan Gill. Lee Wood.
No, Jordan Gill was the dude... Lee Wood did
not beat his ass. Lee Wood was getting fucked
that entire fight. The fight that I saw was the
Jordan Gill fight where Colin basically looked
hurt any time Gill, who had a really low KO percentage,
landed on him. I was like... this guy's gonna
retire. And then after he disappeared for a while,
I was like, oh, he's retired. And then it came
out earlier this year that he's back now. He
went into promoting, because he's promoted a
couple pro box cards in Ireland. Has he? Jamie
Conlon's the primary one. Yeah, but Mickey Conlon
was doing it too. He's on it, yeah, for sure.
I took it out of my head. I choose to believe.
Lee Wood was whooping that ass. He was not. Before
he knocked him out of the ring. I don't think
Lee Wood's capable of whooping anyone. He normally
just gets into a war and then somehow ends up
winning. Like, his entire fucking career. And
we're fucking here for it. We're here for every
fucking second. Yeah, well, I think he's done.
I think the train is done, but I was so on the
Lee Wood train. I was so on board. So, yeah.
Just quickly, going back to the last one card.
Josh Kelly's headlining. Obviously, he beat Ishmael
Davis on short notice. That was originally meant
to be Liam Smith, but obviously, Smith pulled
out and got destroyed by McKenna instead. He's
fighting a guy called Flavius Beer. Now, ignoring
the fact that he kind of sounds like a Roman
emperor, which does kind of make sense when you
consider he's Romanian. He's 24 -1. Whoa, whoa,
whoa, whoa. We gotta go back for a second. How
does him being Romanian make sense for a Roman
Empire? There's, like, there's some historical
thing there, though. Or am I just making sure?
Regardless. The Roman Empire is from Rome, not
Romania. Yes, I know. But, like, there's some...
Look, this is a boxing thing, not a history thing.
If you want to be a historical nerd, fucking
whatever. Fucking nerd. Anyway. I had a look
when this guy got announced because I was like,
who the fuck is this guy? Is he like some secret
like snap, like insane, like hidden European?
No, most of his fights were in Romania. He also
hasn't had a fight since May of 2024. So, yeah,
I mean, yeah, this, I mean, it's another pointless
fight for Josh Kelly. The real question is whether
Kelly can stop him, but I doubt it. He'll probably
just win it in an endless decision in a very
boring fight. But, I mean, it's a card. In the
UK, this card will be free. I don't know how
you would watch it elsewhere. It might have a
YouTube stream or something, but it's on Channel
5 in the UK. That's about all I've got to say.
There's not a lot. Well, the Brit slap continues.
Fabio Wardley versus Justice Hooney. Before we
get to the main event, is there... Dillian White,
has his opponent been determined? No. I had a
look earlier. It's still to be announced. So
if I had to guess, they're going to drag some...
They're either going to drag in some fat Argentinians
and roll over, or they're going to bring in a
fat African to roll over. That's usually how
this goes. Who was the dude that Richard react
for? We get him in off the couch. Not for this
fight, obviously, but there's been rumors that
people want Dillian White versus Dave Allen now.
Yeah, I'd heard about that. The whole argument
is, well, Dillian White is shot. I don't know
if that fight starts for either of them. Yeah,
but what does that fight do for either of them?
If Allen loses, then he's now just completely
fucked. The answer is yes. And if White wins,
what does that do? Well done. You beat a dude
whose best win in the last couple of years is
Johnny Fisher. They both really need it. White
gains nothing out of it. White gains nothing
out of any of these fights he's taking. White
was meant to fight Joyce until he got injured.
Yeah, but I'm just saying in the last two years...
Three years, maybe? Dave Allen would be the biggest
name that White has fought. Well, I mean, he
had the whole drug thing which kind of screwed
him over and meant that he couldn't fight in
the UK, I'm pretty sure, which is why he had
a fight in Gibraltar against Tese and had a fight
off in Ireland against Christian Hammer. That
Tese fight, by the way, he looked dreadful. I'm
just saying, Dave Allen would be the biggest
name Dillian White has fought in a minute. Jesus.
I don't know. I mean, it would be a fun slop
fight, but it's kind of pointless. And I don't
know. Brit slop is why they're fucking here.
Diddy and White will go to some bigger fights.
Brit slop is always pointless. 90 % of British
fights are pointless. That's why it's slop. That's
why we're here. I don't know. I mean, Dave Allen
should follow more the domestic. I think for
Dave Allen, he should try and go off the - Diddy
and White is domestic level. Has been for years.
We don't know what level Diddy and White is.
Before we continue with the Dillian White argument,
that's a little bit more time than this man deserves.
I'm going to be honest with you guys. We're going
to keep it rolling here. Fabio Wardley versus
Justice Hooney. Why does Justice Hooney knock
Fabio Wardley out? Lynn, let's go ahead. Kick
it off. What? What? What is this? Rage Brain
used to be believable. But I've only got one
thing to say for anyone who actually thinks Justice
Hooney has a chance in this fight. Go watch the
Kevin Lovainer fight and watch this guy in the
10th round nearly get stopped by a fucking former
cruiserweight with like a sub 15 % KO ratio and
tell me he's taking the power of a guy whose
entire career has been built off the fact that
yes, he can't really box, but my fucking God,
could he smash your skull in half? Which he almost
did to Frasier Clark. More than one person. Put
a dent in his fucking skull. That was gross.
People actually want to act like you're Sassoon
and he's got a check. No. Like, Huni, like, this
could go similar to the first Clark fight, where
Huni boxes him and does well. But, like, what
has Eustace Huni shown since that Lorena fight?
He's beat up a bunch of cans early, down under,
which have done nothing for his development.
Like, we saw in the Lorena fight, he's got a
suspect gas tank. We saw his chin isn't that
great. He hasn't got much power. So, it's like,
what does this guy have? Or what can he do? It's
going to make Fabio Wardley respect him. He will
serve justice. That's all I got. I don't know.
I mean, maybe this is just me being completely
biased, but I just see no other way this ends
than Fabio Wardley just getting to him and just
that's it. It's done. Like, Huni will get caught
with something huge and it's all over. Nah, he's
done. Matchroom Heavyweight Boxing will be dead.
We will all celebrate the death of Eddie Heard
in boxing. We will all go home very happy. And
I can now glaze up Fabio Warby because he beat
C -10 Frostbite. Well, that's pretty much all
you need to know about this fight. Probably more
than you need to know about this fight. I like
to prop up Justice Huni just because it bothers
Lynn. That's really it. I don't give a shit.
Moving on. Boxer. Same day. Like, pretty much
the same time. Yes. There's a bunch of shit on
this undercard that we're going to skip and go
to Callum Smith and Ivan Zuko. I've been following
Zuko for a minute. Callum Smith is a very different
fighter. Callum Simpson. Excuse me. Thank you.
Yes. Thank you for correcting me. Yeah, there
is some stuff on this undercard. I'll briefly
give a shout -out to Edwards versus Asombo. That
could be a solid fight, but... Yeah, Simpson
is fighting a guy called Zuko, who's Italian.
Now, with Italians, there's like a 50 -50 chance.
They're either like actually good, or they're
literally incapable of throwing a punch. I haven't
obviously seen tape of Zuko, because I have no
idea who this guy is. He's alright. But he's,
I mean, he's 21 -0. He's got 18 knockouts. He's
a southpaw. So, I mean, there's, he has something,
maybe. I don't know. The only name on his record
I recognize is Jermaine Brown. And to anyone
who's not British, that won't mean anything.
But I mean, this is a guy who's like English
level, maybe. It's like the only name on his
CV I recognize. His last fight was in Switzerland,
which doesn't bode well for my confidence in
him going into this fight because I don't think
Switzerland's ever produced a good boxer that
I can recall. Well, I mean, he's a southpaw who's
got an 85 % KO ratio. He might maybe not be completely
awful. I don't know. He's 29. He's in the prime
of his career. Callum Simpson, don't really have
a lot to say because he's kind of been a boxer
and I'm not as clued in with boxer cards because
they're normally just not that interesting. He
beat a domestic guy in Zach Cherry, who's whatever.
Basically, every British fighter will beat a
guy like Zack Cheney. Like, he's tough, he'll
take you the distance, but he ain't gonna beat
you. You're going into way more detail than anyone
cares, Lin. I'm sorry. I... Look, I'd like to
provide the context to this. Okay. This fight
is also for the EBU, European Super Middleweight,
which is, I believe, the main commission for
the European fights. So there is an actual belt
on the line here of some value to people. It's
a... It's a... subordinate sanctioning body to
wbc so like this yes these guys are gonna be
in your like in your feed they're gonna be coming
up yes uh sorry i just had a look at who last
held this boat because it's vacant uh it was
kevin lele saggio who is like that guy in france
that has a high ranking and everyone wants to
fight because he's probably very easy to beat
i have never heard of this man i know he's high
i'm pretty sure he I don't know if it might have
been him. I'm pretty sure I saw a thing earlier
that says he's going to fight Iglesias, or there
was some rumor about that. Also don't know who
that is. That's crazy. But anyway, since I'm
not massively sold on, he'll probably get to
European level. I don't ever see this guy being
much of a threat at world level, but we'll see
how he looks in this fight. I will probably be
watching Fabio Worley at this time, though, so
I'll have to catch this fight afterwards. Yeah.
Okay, we got to move on because I am bored as
fuck about the Brit slot. Top rank on the 7th.
So this will be later in the evening if you're
in the US. One from the bottom up, Keon Davis.
That's one of DB3. So keep note of him. I want
to skip over the co -main and go to Keyshawn
Davis versus Edwin De Los Santos. I'm not too
sold that this is going to be an exciting affair.
I don't think so. I don't expect Edwin is going
to come to bang the way he has previously. And
Davis is actually pretty fucking good. Yeah,
even if he wants to bang, I don't think De Los
Santos is going to catch him. Davis is too slick.
The only way they bang is if Davis decides to,
and I don't see that happening. That would be
a mistake. De Los Santos does have pretty heavy
hands. It would be a mistake and out of character.
Yes. I think chances are very low. This is going
to be boring. That's why what interests me more
is Abdullah Mason. Versus Jeremiah Nakatilla.
That's just because you love Abdullah Mason.
I do. I really, really do. I think Abdullah Mason
is him. As I understand it, that's how the kids
are saying it. He is him. Jeremiah Nakatilla
is actually a pretty solid step up for where
Abdullah Mason is. So this to me is... is the
main event like i want to see how good mason
does with a pretty solid opponent yeah and those
african guys always come to win they try yeah
well usually um because i can think of two exceptions
lately but these the smaller guys especially
they come to bang and they won't quit like you
gotta get them out yeah I'm really curious to
see how Abdullah Mason does. My glazing notwithstanding.
I think Mason will get rounds this time. Because
Abdullah Mason usually stops people pretty quick,
doesn't he? He does. Within the first six, at
least. Yeah, I think this guy will take them
rounds. I disagree. I'm looking at the... I mean,
I'm not, like, an American person, but I remember
when this guy got announced, I had a... I had
a quick look at his record. This dude got stopped
inside two rounds by Moetelo and Mercado. So...
Not sure how well that bodes for him going up
against Mason, but we'll see. I've been wrong
before. It'll happen again. But I... Who knows?
Fair enough. I am also just being slightly stereotypical.
I won't even call this one racist. Just stereotypical.
Moving to June 8th. Matchroom. In us. I'm going
to miss this one. Why is that? Because I'm going
to be at the other one. So a couple moving up.
Max McIntyre, that's a name I recognize as an
Aussie prospect. Danny Keating. Tyler Blizzard.
Just for the name. Him for the name. Tyler Blizzard
versus Rocky Oden. We've been following Tyler
Blizzard for his last, like, four fights just
because of his name. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Well,
also, his nickname, which I don't think I had
noticed before, is The Wizard. Tyler the Wizard
Blizzard. Yeah, try saying that one fast when
you're drunk. Did you skip the very first one
on purpose, Leo? Yes. Okay. Then Ben Mahoney
versus Eddie Colmenares. It's a 154 fight. I
think that's the co -main. And headlining Jai
Opataya versus Claudio Squeo for the IBF Cruiserweight
title. Who the fuck is Squeo? I don't know. I
actually have lore on this, because I looked
into this, because I'm crippled with autism.
Let me just say now, all the Jai fans and all
the Jai defenders are not going to like this.
Skeo's getting stopped in about two rounds, and
I genuinely don't know if he wins an English
belt. Why this guy is in a world title fight,
I have no idea. So, I had a quick look at his
record. Firstly, all of his fights have been
in early. The only normal belt he fought for,
which is how he got a top 15 ranking, was the
IBF European Cruiserweight belt against a guy
called Nicholas Vassilin. I then was like, oh,
who's this guy? So I had a look at his record.
He'd had two fights in the last four and a half
years. He was a domestic level fighter in Finland,
of all places. And he was actually naturally
a 167er stroke 175er. So he was basically a dude
who had had, like, two fights in four years and
was, like, basically, like, come, like, massively
up in weight from where he fought at before.
Why he's in a world title fight, I don't know.
But it's a complete joke. It's a complete joke.
Like, I don't know how anyone can look at this
fight and say, oh, Jai of Ataya, you know, he's
got power. When this is the level of opposition,
he's going to be stopping. They're marking time.
to get to bigger fights that's all it is to me
that's what it is and you're telling me they
couldn't have found like at least some half credible
washed up guy who at least might take him at
least four or five rounds before he then stops
them rather than this dude who had no notable
wins wasn't even known i don't even know is there
any italians who listen to this because they
can comment if this dude's even known in italy
Are you familiar with the phrase, this was taught
to me by Brits, and it's cheeky Nando's with
the lads. Have you heard that before? I'm aware
of that. Okay, so we adapted that, cheeky Nando's
with Eddie Hearn and the IBF. The IBF loves their
cheeky Nando's. They love their cheeky Nando's.
But he wasn't a mandatory, I don't think, because
he's ranked number 14 by the IBF. I'm pretty
sure this is a voluntary. Yeah, but... Does it
satisfy the mandatory defense criteria? Maybe.
Probably. Probably. Like, IBF is fucking... It's
the fucking IBF. They're questionable. But yeah,
I don't know. This fight... Like, if this fight
goes beyond three rounds, I'm sure. Like... It
shouldn't. It genuinely might be over in about
a minute and a half. I'm not even bullshitting
here. But, Leo, introduce your favorite guy on
the card. Or did you forget? Oh, Terra Moana.
Yeah, that's the one when he says skip the first.
Yeah. Terra Moana is like a super awesome heavyweight
prospect right now. He's like just getting into
the thing. So, like, don't look at Moses Atama
and say, oh, yeah, he should fight Terra Moana.
That's fucking ridiculous. Terra Moana is way
too green for that. He is fighting another Indian
guy. I wonder if this one's actually from India
or if he's from Fiji. He is. No, he's Indian.
He is from India. The last guy was an Indian
from Fiji. So that's fun. Okay, it doesn't say
where in India he's from, but it says he's from
India. Tara Moana Jr. Watch him. If he opens
a card, you can watch him and then fuck off for
the rest of the day and then come back for Jayapataya.
And Tyler Blizzard. Of course. Moving to the
motherfucking Taiken card at the Ariake Arena.
I gotta go print my ticket. I haven't done that
yet. Because you're here for the... I'm going
to skip that joke for the umpteenth time. But
that is where these got mixed up. So that older
guy that has just turned pro that I really like,
Suboy, is on this card. Yeah. I like him. He's
going to win by knockout probably. Probably pretty
quick. I don't know who this Vietnamese guy he's
fighting is. He's fighting a 33 -year -old Vietnamese
guy who's 18 -1 with 10 knockouts. But I say
Saboy puts him out in the first three rounds.
Probably. Who else is on here that I should know?
Tenshin Nasukawa. Yeah. Who was I talking to?
I was telling somebody about it. It was with
Alex and Josh on B -Sides. And I was saying,
as much... Like, this guy is the ultimate fucking
douchebag. He really is. I just hate his personality
so much. But... Main character stuff. Americans
would probably like him. He would fit in with
the American style of self -promotion. Like,
fucking Tank Davis style bullshit. I... The way
that I always frame him is as the Japanese Lomachenko.
No. No, more childish. More childish and self
-centered. That is fair. Lomachenko pretends
to be an adult. Well, he pretends to be humble
with his words, but you can tell he's lying.
Okay. Nasakawa doesn't... Doesn't do that. No.
In terms of ability, that is also how I've recommended
him. I don't know, man. If Maloney had power.
If Maloney had power. Maloney rocked him. Yeah,
fuck. But Maloney rocked him. He did. You're
absolutely right. And Maloney has shit power.
This is the little Maloney. No, it's the big
Maloney. Is it? Well, whatever. They're the same.
They both have shit power. They're the same,
yeah, as far as power goes. They're both terrible.
Victor Santillan, probably about the same level
as the Maloney's. 14 and 1. He's not bad. It's
fine. I would love to see him spark tension.
Just fucking shut everybody up. Somebody teach
him some humility. Please. Please. Put this fucking
child on his ass. But that's the thing, he's
not a child anymore. He's like 26. Yeah, he acts
like he's 15, but... Acts like he's in an anime.
Fucking embarrassing. Well, all I know is that
he does all sorts of cool fucking tricks with
his footwork and stuff, so... And he does flips
in his pre -fight testing the ring warm -ups.
That they don't show on TV. But enough of douchebag.
Let's go to the main event. Junto Nakatani versus
Ryosuke Nishida. WBC and IBF bantamweight champions,
respectively. I am fucking excited for this.
Like, really excited for this. Yeah, you should
be. This is a fucking amazing, amazing fight.
Like, this in itself, just by itself, is worth
the price of admission. 100%. I am excited for
this. Like, this is gonna be Nakatani's biggest
test in for fucking ever. I think. Nobody likes
Nishida except me. I don't know why. I think
he's fine. I don't have any problems with him,
but... No, but, like, everybody... See, everybody
in Discord's like, oh, another fucking can that
Junto's gonna knock out in the second round.
He is not a can. Motherfuckers that don't know
what they're talking about. He's also a southpaw,
and I haven't seen Nakatani fight another southpaw.
I just don't know if he's any good against them.
It's people who are confidently incorrect. It's
true. I do think Nakatani wins, but I think Nishida
gains some fans. He wins the story of the night.
I think it's going to go late, for sure. I wouldn't
be surprised if Nishida survives, but I think
if it is a Nakatani KO, it's in like the 9th
or 10th. Watch him knock him out in the first
two minutes. But I don't think so. I like Nishida.
but yeah i'm super excited i got my ticket i
this is one of those ones where they don't actually
tell you where your seats are um and i keep forgetting
no no no so they don't give you like a seating
map when you buy seats here and i keep forgetting
how expensive the seats are in which section
because nishita is the one i accidentally ended
up on the floor in osaka yeah So either the floor
tickets were sold out by the time I bought my
tickets or I'm on the floor again. And I really
hope I'm not. I like being really close to the
front of the raised seats. So wherever the fuck
I am, I'm row 10 seat something. But I don't
know if that's in the folding chairs on the floor
or if I'm up in the stands. I really hope I'm
up in the stands. Yeah, I wouldn't want to be
on the floor either. I don't like the floor.
Those are dumb fuck seats to buy. Every event
I've been to. The people down there are no fun.
Actually, even in the good stand seats, the people
in Japan are no fun. People in Japan are no fun.
Let's just keep reducing the sentence until it
stops making sense. Japan is no fun. People are
no fun. I will stand by people are no fun. But
yeah, no, I think this is going to be a banger.
I might be wrong, but I think this is going to
be a banger. I have high expectations, too. I
think, like I said, it's people who are confidently
incorrect about Nishida. They don't know who
he is, so they're assuming he's a can. Yeah,
well, he's the one who fights with that small
gym, so nobody ever saw him televised. Like,
I had to fucking get a train to Osaka to see
him defend his world title. Because it wasn't
on TV. The fuck? Well, he wasn't supposed to
win it in the first place. Yeah, well, that's
true. So yeah, I'm super excited about this.
I'll probably miss the Aussie card because I'll
be on the train and the bus to Ariaka. I'll put
misleading exclamations with your name tagged.
Well, the last time I did this was when Munguia
got sparked and I thought you guys were all fucking
with me on the train. Opataya's gonna die now.
You've set the precedent. Opataya getting knocked
out by some random Italian would be pretty fun.
Is he Italian? I would be incredibly happy. It
would be funny. I can't deny that. Anything more
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We are heading into quite a busy weekend. Is
it a lot of star power? Not really. But it's
a lot of boxing. And that's why you're fucking
here. So, parting words. Well, the Oilers made
the Stanley Cup final, so I guess I'm cheering
for fucking Edmonton. Yay. I don't even know
what their cheer is. They're not getting swept.
They're getting swept all my life. Who are they
playing? The Florida Panthers. I'm not at all
biased. Oh, they are. They are playing. Yeah,
I'm not at all biased when I say we're sweeping
them. Not at all. Yeah, no. But I don't even
want to cheer for fucking Edmonton. I hate Edmonton.
Edmonton is the fucking asshole of hell. What's
their actual city name is the Gateway to the
North? Because that's the only thing they have
is we were where the highway ended until recently.
Alberta's just like two cities and the rest of
it is just empty. I mean, that's every province
in Canada, isn't it? No, not really. Name me
a province with more than two big cities. I mean,
like the East Coast has. some degree of population
density i guess no no newfoundland has one city
they don't even have two ontario is like not
entirely desolate it's toronto and ottawa yeah
you got like other towns and stuff towns none
of it is just totally packed with people i actually
i don't know Ontario would be the only one where
you could say there's more than two cities, if
you include fucking Thunder Bay and Sudbury.
If you want to see... No, never mind. I was going
to say, if you want to see amputee strippers,
you go to Peterborough on a Wednesday. Let me
put a bow on this. We've got to get the hell
out of here. Amputees, you already know where
you've got to go. Patreon .lbx .be. If you want
to hear about what the fuck is amputee strippers,
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Before Dark. Lynn, this is your first time. Say
a nice goodbye to everybody. That doesn't take
more than 10 seconds. Goodbye, everyone. And
the only thing I'll end on, Huni's getting destroyed.
All right. That's a good one. All right. Boxing
Before Dark. We'll see you next time.