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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Gotta, I gotta do my wind up. It's like, I'm

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a pitcher with this one. Lock in. Yeah. We ready

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to rock. Fucking roll, baby. Ready to fucking

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roll. Boxing B -sides. Back up in your fucking

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ears. Joined by the homies. Alex, Josh. The one

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and only Alex. How could I have forgotten? One

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and only. How we doing fellas? Alex. Come on.

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Leave that last podcast. Leave that on the last

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podcast. That's a legacy. For all intents and

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purposes, I was under the influence of Joshua's

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yapping. Yeah. Right, right. Alright guys. Yeah,

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you were just flowing. You were weaving. It was

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a fuck up. Yeah, we did get a text. We did get

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a text on that one from good old Matt saying,

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Don King is bad. What the hell? Hey, that's rage

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bait. That's a good way to put it. oh man all

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right we got a lot to get into so um just really

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quick extending the olive branch to our fellows

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over at ultimate effing casuals wherever you're

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listening to this you can find ultimate effing

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casuals there too if you're into mma or you're

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mma curious then this week uh it's fucking really

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light there's an event on saturday it's not very

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good so i just wanted to point this one out really

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quick uh on the 30th It's going to be, that's

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a Friday. It'll be in the morning, starting around

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like 5 .30 on the West Coast. In Thailand, it's

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One Friday Fights. That's like their development

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prospect hunting series. It's mostly Muay Thai.

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So if you like boxing and you're like a purist,

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but maybe you want to try it out, Muay Thai is

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brutal. There's no grappling allowed. There's

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no grabbing. The only way that you can clinch,

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you are actively kneeing each other or elbowing

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each other. It's the only way you can clinch.

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So it's a good sampler if you want to try crossing

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the street a little bit. I like Muay Thai, so

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I'm always going to promote it the best I can.

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Fair enough. The highlights I see on Instagram

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are usually pretty fun. It's good. Shanada was

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always reticent to try, and then once she did,

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it was like, wow, what have I been missing? But

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let's move into our recaps here. Wednesday, May

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14th, as the Australians are wont to do, they

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had their fights. It was started around 1 in

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the morning on the West Coast here. A lot of

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shit on here, but the only one I really wanted

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to point out was Sam Goodman. He gets a pretty

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lame UD over the unknown, unheralded Cesar Vaca.

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A lot of cuts on Sam Goodman's face. It's unusual.

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Yeah, it sounds like pretty standard fare for

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a Sam Goodman event. Standard, Sammy? Yeah. Shrug.

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Yeah, I just like to point out the people who

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like the Contenders. Bro wasted a good couple

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months of Inouye's career in his prime, so shrug.

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Yeah, fuck San Diego. Saturday, May 17th. There

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are a few cards on here. None of them are major,

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but there are a lot of good stuff that happens

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here. The matchroom one was major. Major outcome.

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Yeah. So just two leading up to the main event,

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George Liddard, TKO5 over Aaron Sutton, and Kieran

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Conway, TKO4 over Jerome Warburton. Shouting

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those out for Lynn. She's getting onboarded into

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the familia. Yeah, that looks bad. She's coming

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on to one of the podcasts? Yeah, it's Boxing

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Before Dark. She's going to be the... Brit box,

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Brit slop, fucking expert. Brit slop enjoyer.

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One day we're going to have him on the show,

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dude. I'm going to tell you something. He is

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very, very passionate. I know. I kind of want

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to go toe -to -toe with her about Berlanga and

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Shiraz, dude. I don't know if you guys know about

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the Shiraz Berlanga beef that we have. No, I

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didn't. I didn't know you had anything going

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on. Well, there was one day in the server, and

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you can look it up, where I made the claim that

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Berlanga was going to kick Shiraz's ass because

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Shiraz is ass. Shiraz, right? Yeah. Shiraz. Long,

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like, one -page rant about how Berlanga has done

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nothing in his career and how Shiraz has done

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so much in so little time. And it was like, part

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of it that I said was it was kind of rage bait.

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To the fans out there, I'm going to tell you

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right now, I'm praying at least that Berlanga

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KOs to Roz. And I think he can. Maybe. But yeah,

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she was really passionate about that. To the

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point where she made a bet to everybody in the

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server at that time that if she Roz loses, she'll

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give $10 to each person in the server. At least

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that was active. That is very passionate. Holy

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shit. She should buy us several cases of ramen

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instead. You might be fucking church of chicken,

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dude. I'm like, God, are you that passionate,

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dude? I want to speak to you about some boxing.

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Like, on the live, on the mic. You know what

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I mean? Bring it on here one day. I'm looking

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at their resumes and Hamza doesn't have a whole

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lot going on here. I'm not sure what... I think

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it's just like the personal British bias where...

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Oh, yeah. making a big deal out of tyler denny

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yeah it's like isaac's canelo bias yeah you guys

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know you guys know about number two right you

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guys got of course okay yeah he said he's gonna

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ko fucking skull sorry you know what say this

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again on the mic bro that was wild okay you're

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you're my invincible you're my my kishan bro

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fair take if you think uh If you hadn't watched

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Skull before, fair enough take. If you haven't

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seen Canelo in two years, that's a fair enough

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take. Skull is shitty enough to get KO'd by Canelo.

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He just didn't even want to be there to get KO'd.

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I'm getting rage baited. This isn't even rage

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bait. Skull fucking stinks. I think there's more

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to the part of Canelo. No, we already had this

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discussion. It's just a repeat, bro. This is

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going to be a repeat. Yeah, this is going to

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be a rehash. All right. Moving into the main

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event here. David Allen stops Johnny Fisher in

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five. Holy crap. Stops. Capital, all letters.

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Stops. Johnny Fisher. Oh, yeah. Johnny Fisher

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is the closest he's ever been to an AJ fight

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at this point. Is this the end of the Bosch?

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No, he's just the new Dave Allen. Oh, he's taking

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his place. We talked about this. We've talked

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about this. Johnny Fisher is going to get put

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in because he sells tickets like Dave Allen did.

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Yeah, he's going to be put on the undercards

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for stuff that's not selling very well. Yeah,

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like the automatic injection of tickets against

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like... actually good prospects like if you remember

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dave allen dave allen's fought guys like italian

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white and luis ortiz and like like he kind of

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broke into relevancy when he uh when nick webb

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was supposed to be good and it turned out he

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wasn't he's gonna be fighting pretty early right

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yeah the same for say uh fourth round yeah yeah

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he's having but it's gonna be that It's going

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to be that type of up and down where he's the

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new Dave Allen. Who's Dave Allen now? I don't

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know. The guy AJ's going to break in half or

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get well -fied. Two fights away from AJ? Yeah.

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That's why I said Johnny Fisher's the new Dave

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Allen. That's why he's two fights away from AJ

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now. He's two fights away from AJ. Dave Allen's

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two fights away from Tyson Fury. That's assuming

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Tyson Fury comes back. He said he's not coming

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back. Yeah, so he says. So he says. Oh, he said.

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What could be next for David Allen? Like, legitimately,

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I know that we're, like, memeing about AJ and

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stuff. No, like an AJ -AJ and, like, a get -well

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fight. Because AJ's, like... Oh, he's having

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surgery and he's not going to be back. There's

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not much for AJ that is, like, 100 % guaranteed

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confidence. Can I say something for David Allen?

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Fire away. I think he would be the perfect fight

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for Moses Aitaba. No, I think Moses is beyond

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him. I agree, but also I like Dave Allen. I think

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we're going to talk about Moses next week or

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this week? I think that's next. I think it's

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next week, yeah. Okay, and we'll talk about him

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more next time. I like Dave Allen too much. Let

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him cash out with an AJ fight. AJ does need a

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fight for confidence real bad. I don't think

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it's debatable, but any dangerous heavyweight

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probably scares AJ into not fighting his best

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after what happened with Dubois. You know what?

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We'll see. If that happens, we'll see. We'll

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see what happens. I think that Itama's a little

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bit too early, a little too fresh to be put in

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with David Allen. Not that he couldn't win. That's

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not what I mean. But he's still not... The metal

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isn't hot enough for the David Allen heat, if

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that makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. Someone

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who's a little bit further along, like, what's

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his name? Fabio Wardley? Yeah. Oh, yeah. That

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level of guy, I think, is where you want to have

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David Allen next. Assuming Fabio Wardley gets

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past Justice Hooney, is it? Yeah. Yeah. Which

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he should. He should. He totally should. But

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I'm not going to say he should, because I have...

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That beef with Lynn, myself. Justice Hooney's

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gonna win. I don't even really care that much

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about Justice Hooney, but... I was about to say,

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Australian heavyweight, like... Yeah. That's

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it. That's it. Australian heavyweight. For David

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Allen... Isn't Dillian White coming up? Oh, he

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actually, I think he beats Dillian Wade. I do

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too. Not by knockout or anything, but just by

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a decision where David Allen is somehow the less

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washed, less fat old man. That would be a pretty

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alright fight, I guess. Yeah, I think it'd be

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okay. Battle of the washed? Yeah. I don't think

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Dave Allen... I think Dave Allen's aged well

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in terms of he isn't washed because he kind of

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never was, you know? I agree to disagree, I guess.

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He never really had a peak. This might be his

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peak. Career peak doesn't line up with his physical

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peak. Even when he was in shape, though... He

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weirdly boxed worse when he was in shape. Like

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he's got, he's very, very strange. How he like,

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he's either been in shape and had like nothing.

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It's like even Lucas Brown pieced him up before

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he put Lucas Brown away. But like here, I think

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it might be just be Johnny Fisher making him

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look good too. But he's displayed some competence

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lately that he kind of didn't have prior. Murat

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Gassiev. Yeah, that's some expired stock. White.

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Yeah, White. I think White. White and then AJ,

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if AJ still needs that confidence builder. Depending

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on the turnaround time, because AJ's in surgery

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and won't be ready until... Around the end of

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June. That's why you do White. You do White first,

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and then AJ, he probably, he has surgery, but

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he also needs time to, like, retrain, basically.

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Yeah. And rehab, so the timeline would line up.

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You make White and Allen in, like, July, and

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then in the late fall, you give AJ the confidence

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builder of the winter. On, like, a Riyadh car

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or something? Yeah. Like, AJ just, like, both

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guys, like, AJ does both guys dirty. But AJ needs

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that confidence so bad. They could probably do

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it on the Ben Eubank rematch if they were doing

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it. Ben Eubank rematch. You put AJ Allen on the

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Ben Eubank. That would sell. That would actually

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sell. But, like, oh, boy. How times have changed,

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man. Chris Eubanks still not fighting any actual

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world beaters. AJ still fighting. He did fight

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Conor Benn. Conor Benn is not a world -class

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opponent, bro. That was a world -class fight.

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I'm not calling it a world -class opponent. I'm

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just saying it was a world -class fight. I guess.

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That fight was better than most of the fights

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this year. And most of the world class fights

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this year. This is a slight... That's a negative

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for this year. Yeah, I guess you could say that.

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That's a negative for this year. I'm not gonna...

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No, it's not. Well, you know, there's still been

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a lot of good fights this year. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

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Fair enough. I think it's gotta be unfair to

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the year itself. It's not like it was during

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the boxing dark ages of a couple years ago. Yeah,

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Matchroom Fight Camp, Dark Ages. Those were the

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days. Those were the days. Those were dark times.

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I actually didn't mind the trailer cards. They

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were stupid, but fun. Actually, we're coming

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up on that time of the year where we're going

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to be picking our best of the year so far. Yeah.

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Oh, yeah, yeah. My first award selection. Anything

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more for David Allen and Johnny Fisher? Welcome

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to British journeyman status, Fisher. He'll be

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stuck there until he beats the next Johnny Fisher.

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The next Rhino? He's the next Rhino. He's the

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even whiter Rhino. Bosh. Bosh. Big John closed

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all his Instagram comments down after the loss.

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Oh, I'm sure he did. He started getting fucking

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trolled on Instagram. It was hilarious. Good.

00:17:09.089 --> 00:17:13.269
No, he deserves it. It was hilarious. But he

00:17:13.269 --> 00:17:17.809
was getting fucking trolled. We'd love to see

00:17:17.809 --> 00:17:25.210
it. Marv Nation, same day, Thunder Studios. Man,

00:17:25.230 --> 00:17:28.700
Marv Nation's still around. That's crazy. That's

00:17:28.700 --> 00:17:32.519
the real headline. They popped up as, like, a

00:17:32.519 --> 00:17:37.460
joke. How many years ago? Like, they're the BLK

00:17:37.460 --> 00:17:40.220
Prime of their day, bro. They were a joke. Yeah.

00:17:40.980 --> 00:17:43.599
And now here they are promoting some of the Vargas

00:17:43.599 --> 00:17:48.099
kids. It's sad. Fernando Vargas should be, like,

00:17:48.140 --> 00:17:51.099
you know, probably a golden boy. There's a crazy

00:17:51.099 --> 00:17:52.839
amount of Vargases. You can't sign them all.

00:17:53.200 --> 00:17:57.740
Yeah. There's so many of them. Top rank is two

00:17:57.740 --> 00:18:00.579
out of three with the... Top rank took the good

00:18:00.579 --> 00:18:05.940
ones. With the Davis ones. Yeah. But Fernando

00:18:05.940 --> 00:18:09.940
Vargas Jr., the oldest, and I think the largest

00:18:09.940 --> 00:18:13.700
of the Vargas brothers. He's the least amount

00:18:13.700 --> 00:18:18.539
of upside. Unfortunately. Yeah. Nothing wrong

00:18:18.539 --> 00:18:20.299
with him. He's still pretty good. It's just like

00:18:20.299 --> 00:18:23.420
the other two Vargases are more promising talents.

00:18:24.940 --> 00:18:28.859
I disagree. I don't like Amato's. I'm not too

00:18:28.859 --> 00:18:32.680
keen on Amato either. I'm not a big fan of his.

00:18:32.700 --> 00:18:37.819
I think it goes Amato, Fernando, and Miliano.

00:18:38.740 --> 00:18:42.019
Miliano, obviously to Miliano. That's funny because

00:18:42.019 --> 00:18:46.119
he's a lot better than the other two. A lot better.

00:18:47.079 --> 00:18:49.519
They're both trained by the same guy. All of

00:18:49.519 --> 00:18:52.339
them are trained by the same guy. Yeah. I feel

00:18:52.339 --> 00:18:55.190
like it's also just age too at some point. Like,

00:18:55.190 --> 00:18:58.009
I feel like you can still, like, Amado, at least,

00:18:58.009 --> 00:18:59.910
like, he's still got four years. He's four years

00:18:59.910 --> 00:19:05.390
younger than Vargas Jr., so I guess if you treat

00:19:05.390 --> 00:19:08.750
him like a project guy, you can still work him

00:19:08.750 --> 00:19:12.170
up. Yeah, he's still climbing up, and he's doing

00:19:12.170 --> 00:19:15.509
better, like, every time. Like, he's a project

00:19:15.509 --> 00:19:18.690
guy for sure, but I feel like time's on his side

00:19:18.690 --> 00:19:24.109
for top rank. He's going to go the route of Lindolfo.

00:19:24.559 --> 00:19:27.779
You know, he might gain some notoriety a little

00:19:27.779 --> 00:19:30.740
later on, but I don't think he's going to touch

00:19:30.740 --> 00:19:36.059
a title at any time, in my opinion. That's a

00:19:36.059 --> 00:19:41.579
business, sadly. Emiliano's the one. Emiliano

00:19:41.579 --> 00:19:43.400
is the one, but, I mean, Amato is more deserving

00:19:43.400 --> 00:19:48.519
of any kind of push than, what's it, Nico Ali

00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.640
-Walsh. Is he still getting pushed? Not that.

00:19:51.869 --> 00:19:56.289
No, he's done. Finally, they were still pushing

00:19:56.289 --> 00:19:58.769
him for a while. I can't believe that. I just

00:19:58.769 --> 00:20:00.809
recently figured out that he was related to Muhammad

00:20:00.809 --> 00:20:03.569
Ali. I don't believe you. That was the whole

00:20:03.569 --> 00:20:10.150
marketing. Barely. I can't believe that. Half

00:20:10.150 --> 00:20:14.769
grandnephew six times removed. You know what?

00:20:14.970 --> 00:20:16.950
I think if they marketed that, they probably

00:20:16.950 --> 00:20:19.470
could have made a million money off that dude.

00:20:20.149 --> 00:20:22.890
They did. That's all they said. No, they didn't,

00:20:22.890 --> 00:20:26.430
bro. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. I did

00:20:26.430 --> 00:20:29.210
not hear that one time. That was Tom Frank's

00:20:29.210 --> 00:20:31.869
whole marketing thing. This is news to me, man.

00:20:32.069 --> 00:20:33.970
I have no idea where this is. This is news to

00:20:33.970 --> 00:20:37.349
me. If they marketed Nico Ali Walsh as fucking

00:20:37.349 --> 00:20:39.789
Muhammad Ali's grandson, dude, that would have

00:20:39.789 --> 00:20:42.490
been selling stadiums. The issue is that he sucks.

00:20:42.650 --> 00:20:45.230
The issue is that he sucks really badly. Like,

00:20:45.250 --> 00:20:47.849
you can't. Like, there's not a shred of that.

00:20:48.319 --> 00:20:51.579
I'll leave blood in him. I could not believe

00:20:51.579 --> 00:20:56.859
it. He sucks. He sucks so much. Under the top

00:20:56.859 --> 00:21:00.140
-ranked protection program, he's 10 -2. Isn't

00:21:00.140 --> 00:21:03.279
it 10 -2 -1? Because he got that lucky draw.

00:21:04.299 --> 00:21:07.200
He got that draw, and then it got changed to

00:21:07.200 --> 00:21:09.339
a no contest because his opponent did some weed.

00:21:09.920 --> 00:21:12.319
Oh, that doesn't count. That counts as a win

00:21:12.319 --> 00:21:15.140
for the opponent. Are you kidding me? You handicap

00:21:15.140 --> 00:21:18.349
yourself like that. Oh, Pauno was smoking weed

00:21:18.349 --> 00:21:21.309
and got popped for it. So that's, I mean, 10

00:21:21.309 --> 00:21:23.890
-2 -1 in the top -ranked protection program is

00:21:23.890 --> 00:21:26.609
crazy. Yeah. He must have not really been that

00:21:26.609 --> 00:21:29.250
good of a fighter. No, like, because they fed

00:21:29.250 --> 00:21:32.930
him, like, club fighters exclusively. But, like,

00:21:32.950 --> 00:21:35.569
not even the, like, not seasoned ones, like,

00:21:35.609 --> 00:21:39.009
just club fighters. If he was a PBC, he would

00:21:39.009 --> 00:21:41.009
have gotten a title by now. I guarantee you.

00:21:43.089 --> 00:21:46.410
I don't dare. I think PBC would have put him

00:21:46.410 --> 00:21:49.250
with a trainer who can actually train. Yeah.

00:21:49.829 --> 00:21:52.390
Instead of just the top -ranked gym. You think

00:21:52.390 --> 00:21:57.529
Fernando Vargas could have beat Niko? Yes. Yeah.

00:21:57.609 --> 00:22:02.170
A million times, yes. Niko's so bad. Yeah. Niko's

00:22:02.170 --> 00:22:07.130
so bad. Niko is actually ass. He's so bad. Yeah,

00:22:07.190 --> 00:22:11.410
he's a commentator now. I really like his commentary.

00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:14.920
Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised that his commentary

00:22:14.920 --> 00:22:19.960
is pretty good. He's still growing into himself

00:22:19.960 --> 00:22:27.740
with it. Moving to 360 promotions. There's only

00:22:27.740 --> 00:22:29.940
three that I wanted to point out here. Omar Trinidad

00:22:29.940 --> 00:22:35.900
gets a UD over Alexander Espinosa. Another kind

00:22:35.900 --> 00:22:41.539
of boring decision for Omar. Nah, he'll get a

00:22:41.539 --> 00:22:45.019
shot someday. Right. He's got a WBC trinket.

00:22:45.019 --> 00:22:48.299
He'll work his way up. Especially in featherweight,

00:22:48.400 --> 00:22:53.960
it's pretty open. Mizuki Hiruta, UD over Carla

00:22:53.960 --> 00:22:59.140
Marino. WBO super flyweight title was on the

00:22:59.140 --> 00:23:03.359
line. Not even close. No, one -sided beatdown.

00:23:04.339 --> 00:23:10.059
Not even close. Mizuki's on the... Collision

00:23:10.059 --> 00:23:13.440
course with Gabby Fundora. I don't think it goes

00:23:13.440 --> 00:23:16.819
well for her. For Mizuki, I mean. No, but she'll

00:23:16.819 --> 00:23:20.440
still be a good opponent for... It would be a

00:23:20.440 --> 00:23:22.440
good fight. I think it would be a good fight,

00:23:22.480 --> 00:23:25.039
for sure. The best you can hope is that it's

00:23:25.039 --> 00:23:27.940
competitive here and we're not just watching

00:23:27.940 --> 00:23:31.559
Gabby waste away with subpar opposition. It's

00:23:31.559 --> 00:23:34.200
good that good opponents are coming up the challenge.

00:23:34.839 --> 00:23:38.019
Is it subpar competition or is it the lack of

00:23:38.019 --> 00:23:41.980
competition as well? It's both. It's both. Well,

00:23:42.019 --> 00:23:46.299
the thing is that you want her to fight good

00:23:46.299 --> 00:23:49.779
opponents, but if she makes them look bad, there's

00:23:49.779 --> 00:23:52.519
nothing wrong with that. So it's good that there's

00:23:52.519 --> 00:23:54.960
good opponents coming up. If they don't match

00:23:54.960 --> 00:23:57.599
up to her, that's fine. The issue is when you

00:23:57.599 --> 00:24:00.019
run into a Clarissa Shields moment where you

00:24:00.019 --> 00:24:03.039
don't have good opponents and they're just beneath

00:24:03.039 --> 00:24:05.779
you. You'd make them look like fools to begin

00:24:05.779 --> 00:24:08.259
with. Yeah, Clarissa Shields is kind of cooked.

00:24:09.200 --> 00:24:15.980
No, she has no good competition ever Any like

00:24:15.980 --> 00:24:26.660
realistic weight class I mean it's better it's

00:24:26.660 --> 00:24:28.480
better than it used to be it used to be like

00:24:28.480 --> 00:24:31.039
you'd get to two fighters in the sport period

00:24:31.039 --> 00:24:35.059
yeah who are any good like here at least it's

00:24:35.059 --> 00:24:38.950
like Like, the fact that we got Katie Taylor

00:24:38.950 --> 00:24:41.750
and Amanda Serrano in the same vicinity of weight

00:24:41.750 --> 00:24:46.309
classes is pretty good. Yeah, lucky. Clarissa

00:24:46.309 --> 00:24:47.990
Shields in the upper weight classes, hopefully

00:24:47.990 --> 00:24:51.109
that gets more people in there. And, of course,

00:24:51.170 --> 00:24:54.549
Gabby Fundura is going to fry people in the lower

00:24:54.549 --> 00:24:56.569
weight classes. But, again, there's going to

00:24:56.569 --> 00:25:00.430
be good opponents coming up, which is, like,

00:25:00.529 --> 00:25:02.849
again, there used to be, like, two good women

00:25:02.849 --> 00:25:05.410
in the sport, period. And maybe they'd fight

00:25:05.410 --> 00:25:08.509
each other with one making, like, severe concessions

00:25:08.509 --> 00:25:10.910
in the weight class department. We'll see what

00:25:10.910 --> 00:25:14.690
happens with her. Yeah, yeah. Again, at the very

00:25:14.690 --> 00:25:16.329
least, it's going to be a good fight on paper.

00:25:16.849 --> 00:25:22.490
Sure. Well, Mizuki is still fun. She's got her

00:25:22.490 --> 00:25:27.869
fun little ring attire. Does this big reveal

00:25:27.869 --> 00:25:32.210
every time. It's still pretty enjoyable. What

00:25:32.210 --> 00:25:36.779
was not? quite as enjoyable. Sergei Bochuk versus

00:25:36.779 --> 00:25:42.000
Michael Fox. Yeah, Bochuk kind of got away with

00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:45.220
that one. Yeah, it was a bit of a stinker. A

00:25:45.220 --> 00:25:49.660
little bit. I'll tell you, it's funny how fast

00:25:49.660 --> 00:25:53.319
the boxing fans switch up because of the server,

00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:56.880
dude. It went from, oh my god, Bochuk is must

00:25:56.880 --> 00:26:00.720
-watch television to he's overrated, he's washed.

00:26:01.710 --> 00:26:04.029
He's a bum. I don't know about all that. Jesus.

00:26:04.470 --> 00:26:07.349
I don't know, but that's always how online discourse

00:26:07.349 --> 00:26:10.049
is, though. That's what I'm saying. I'm just

00:26:10.049 --> 00:26:13.490
saying how I saw this already. I'm an NBA Twitter

00:26:13.490 --> 00:26:16.849
fiend. It's the same thing. Seven game series,

00:26:17.109 --> 00:26:19.670
but one game it's a super team and the other

00:26:19.670 --> 00:26:24.309
game it's a... Oh, man. They'd lose to college

00:26:24.309 --> 00:26:29.769
teams. Yeah, like the... Here's the list of WNBA

00:26:29.769 --> 00:26:40.450
players I'd rather have. That being said, BoJack

00:26:40.450 --> 00:26:46.009
definitely got away with this one. Michael Fox

00:26:46.009 --> 00:26:55.109
employed a good game plan. I don't know. It might

00:26:55.109 --> 00:26:58.609
have been a style thing too, honestly. Yeah.

00:27:01.200 --> 00:27:03.779
made it kind of boring but you know what i mean

00:27:03.779 --> 00:27:08.240
i i i just think it's it is one fight dude always

00:27:08.240 --> 00:27:13.839
had some you know decent fights yeah i don't

00:27:13.839 --> 00:27:16.940
mind i just think this is way too close than

00:27:16.940 --> 00:27:20.140
what it should have been yeah of course again

00:27:20.140 --> 00:27:24.380
one but one bad night but i mean i guess this

00:27:24.380 --> 00:27:26.500
might be good for bojack overall might convince

00:27:26.500 --> 00:27:29.940
someone to take him as an opponent I hope so.

00:27:30.019 --> 00:27:33.220
Get him off of UFC Fight Pass, hopefully. Bo

00:27:33.220 --> 00:27:38.299
Chuck is low reward, very high risk, but now

00:27:38.299 --> 00:27:42.119
with this performance being kind of shitty, the

00:27:42.119 --> 00:27:47.140
risk is definitely down. Not as much risk. It

00:27:47.140 --> 00:27:52.559
was hard to find that stream, too. I cannot understand

00:27:52.559 --> 00:27:59.509
this UFC Fight Pass shit. Oh, man, that's just

00:27:59.509 --> 00:28:03.109
what it is. I love how UFC Fight Pass is part

00:28:03.109 --> 00:28:06.910
of the UFC. It's Dana White, right? It is. So

00:28:06.910 --> 00:28:08.829
why the fuck are they trying to do fucking TKO

00:28:08.829 --> 00:28:13.210
then? Well, they're trying to do that with Turkey

00:28:13.210 --> 00:28:16.950
Al -Ashiq. Why didn't Turkey buy out UFC Fight

00:28:16.950 --> 00:28:23.210
Pass itself? Or something? I think it's easier

00:28:23.210 --> 00:28:25.089
to start your own promotion than to buy out an

00:28:25.089 --> 00:28:29.839
American promotion. Buying a 360. That one shouldn't

00:28:29.839 --> 00:28:33.099
be as hard because they're not very big, but

00:28:33.099 --> 00:28:37.140
still, it would be easier to start your own.

00:28:38.240 --> 00:28:42.000
I guess. I mean, it's not even a promotion. It's

00:28:42.000 --> 00:28:44.240
going to be a fucking league, apparently. I don't

00:28:44.240 --> 00:28:47.559
believe that. It doesn't look like it's going

00:28:47.559 --> 00:28:49.940
to be much of anything after Turkey seems a little

00:28:49.940 --> 00:28:53.759
pulled out. Oh, yeah. The drama with Las Vegas.

00:28:55.180 --> 00:28:57.019
Paris Crawford and Canelo are going to be on

00:28:57.019 --> 00:29:00.339
Saturday again. Once again. They're going to

00:29:00.339 --> 00:29:03.559
be competing with the UFC. Oh, well, hopefully.

00:29:03.680 --> 00:29:07.200
I remember Canelo Kovalev had a nice nap before

00:29:07.200 --> 00:29:13.779
the fight. Oh, yeah. This fight is going to dominate

00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:16.799
that weekend for sure. Legendary screenshot.

00:29:18.200 --> 00:29:22.420
Both of them laying down and chilling. Gloves

00:29:22.420 --> 00:29:29.200
already on. Yeah. So what... We were talking

00:29:29.200 --> 00:29:34.380
about low -risk or low -reward, high -risk for

00:29:34.380 --> 00:29:38.460
Bohochuk. What could be next for him? Honestly,

00:29:38.599 --> 00:29:40.539
like, any of the... Someone who thinks... Someone

00:29:40.539 --> 00:29:43.160
who needs to take that jump for a title shot

00:29:43.160 --> 00:29:46.839
probably takes a fight with Bohochuk now. Just

00:29:46.839 --> 00:29:50.400
on risk -reward. Not boots. Did you see that

00:29:50.400 --> 00:29:55.420
Brian Norman rejected... $1 .3 million to fight

00:29:55.420 --> 00:29:58.859
Boots? No, I didn't. $1 .3 million? I see that.

00:29:58.920 --> 00:30:02.160
Yeah. They rejected a good deal to fight Boots

00:30:02.160 --> 00:30:03.819
saying they weren't paying him enough, and I'm

00:30:03.819 --> 00:30:06.279
like, I mean, I get it. They're overpaying you

00:30:06.279 --> 00:30:09.839
right now, buddy. Yeah, $1 .3 million is overpaying.

00:30:09.859 --> 00:30:12.400
Hearn alleges more, but also, like, take that

00:30:12.400 --> 00:30:15.240
with a grain of salt. How much did Arastadionis

00:30:15.240 --> 00:30:19.380
make? Probably about the same, honestly. It was

00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:23.369
a Riaj event. Still, like, a million dollars

00:30:23.369 --> 00:30:28.769
for Brian Norman is a good deal. Yeah. Have a

00:30:28.769 --> 00:30:32.190
duck, bro. Like, I get it. You probably want

00:30:32.190 --> 00:30:35.269
to cash... Like, if you're negotiating with Boots,

00:30:35.309 --> 00:30:36.950
you definitely want to cash out with a Riage

00:30:36.950 --> 00:30:40.829
card fight to make it a bid at least worth your

00:30:40.829 --> 00:30:43.930
time. Because I don't think... I think Boots

00:30:43.930 --> 00:30:50.200
beats his ass real bad. But, I mean... if we're

00:30:50.200 --> 00:30:51.799
like that's why that's what i mean that like

00:30:51.799 --> 00:30:54.440
turkeys ruin this ship because everyone like

00:30:54.440 --> 00:30:57.259
a cash out would be a cash out should be like

00:30:57.259 --> 00:31:00.759
a billion dollars for a fighter who isn't on

00:31:00.759 --> 00:31:03.480
who honestly doesn't sell that good but now we're

00:31:03.480 --> 00:31:06.140
in the what the where's my 20 million dollar

00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:10.180
paycheck from turkey when it's like that's what

00:31:10.180 --> 00:31:15.039
i mean by turkeys ruin the uh the economy of

00:31:15.039 --> 00:31:20.440
a cash out fights honestly even then I mean,

00:31:20.460 --> 00:31:22.180
as much as you hate Turkey, bro, at the same

00:31:22.180 --> 00:31:25.700
time, even if Turkey wasn't involved, I feel

00:31:25.700 --> 00:31:28.019
like he probably still wouldn't take that fight.

00:31:28.339 --> 00:31:31.099
He wouldn't take it, but I'm saying, like, it

00:31:31.099 --> 00:31:34.160
wouldn't be for, you couldn't just say, it is,

00:31:34.259 --> 00:31:37.000
like, you can't hide behind Turkey Alashik isn't

00:31:37.000 --> 00:31:40.420
paying me $20 million like she did this other

00:31:40.420 --> 00:31:43.859
guy. from other people yeah because it like like

00:31:43.859 --> 00:31:47.119
like the inflation would be like hey maybe uh

00:31:47.119 --> 00:31:49.579
like you know that that overvaluation would be

00:31:49.579 --> 00:31:51.539
like hey give me two million instead instead

00:31:51.539 --> 00:31:55.799
of give me tens of millions of dollars to lose

00:31:55.799 --> 00:32:00.539
yeah yeah no you're right you're right right

00:32:00.539 --> 00:32:04.200
it's just the it's just the inflation of the

00:32:04.200 --> 00:32:08.970
sport here we're like like by and i mean Even

00:32:08.970 --> 00:32:10.769
with the fact that we got to this point where

00:32:10.769 --> 00:32:12.650
people are expecting Eddie Hearn to give out

00:32:12.650 --> 00:32:15.789
even anything above a million, it happened because

00:32:15.789 --> 00:32:18.849
of Matchroom America. If you remember that era

00:32:18.849 --> 00:32:21.190
when we were giving Demetrius Andrade and Tevin

00:32:21.190 --> 00:32:26.769
Farmer $10 million. The good old days. We were

00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:29.349
giving them millions of dollars to fight Liam

00:32:29.349 --> 00:32:34.730
Williams and Jono Carroll. I still find that

00:32:34.730 --> 00:32:37.349
egregious. I still think it's so fucking egregious.

00:32:38.109 --> 00:32:40.029
That fucking Demetrius, out of all the boxers

00:32:40.029 --> 00:32:41.309
that they could have given millions of dollars

00:32:41.309 --> 00:32:43.470
to, it had to be Kevin Farmer and Demetrius.

00:32:43.549 --> 00:32:47.410
Devin Haney and Demetrius Andrade. Yeah, that

00:32:47.410 --> 00:32:50.650
was the other one, was Devin Haney. Yeah, like,

00:32:50.690 --> 00:32:53.829
Devin Haney getting his, like, getting an actual

00:32:53.829 --> 00:32:56.630
knockout and breaking his hand into, like, 20

00:32:56.630 --> 00:33:01.029
pieces on a Logan Paul KSI undercard for, like,

00:33:01.029 --> 00:33:04.910
$2 million. Like, it's ridiculous. And Haney

00:33:04.910 --> 00:33:07.049
got the dog in him, at least. It's ridiculous.

00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:10.900
He got that dog in him at the time. Billy Joe

00:33:10.900 --> 00:33:15.700
Saunders also got paid way too much. Billy Joe

00:33:15.700 --> 00:33:19.799
Saunders, man. He's a Brit. Lots of guys. He

00:33:19.799 --> 00:33:21.940
was on Matchroom America. He was on their payroll.

00:33:22.099 --> 00:33:25.339
So he got paid way too much. Matchroom USA? Yeah,

00:33:25.339 --> 00:33:28.740
it was the thing when DAZN first broke out into

00:33:28.740 --> 00:33:32.920
the boxing scene. Leonard Blatnovic. I know Billy

00:33:32.920 --> 00:33:34.819
Joe Saunders was part of that payroll. That's

00:33:34.819 --> 00:33:38.000
crazy. He's a Brit guy, but he fought on, like,

00:33:38.000 --> 00:33:40.799
the Logan Paul undercard. And even then, he's

00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:45.059
had the Matchroom USA branding. Yeah. It's a

00:33:45.059 --> 00:33:50.220
lot of, like, that's what I mean. Eddie Hearn

00:33:50.220 --> 00:33:52.420
has basically gone from blank check to blank

00:33:52.420 --> 00:33:55.579
check, and it's ruined, like, these fighters

00:33:55.579 --> 00:33:58.859
that, like, maybe when they're cashing out, they'd

00:33:58.859 --> 00:34:02.599
see a million bucks. Instead, now everyone makes

00:34:02.599 --> 00:34:06.480
a million bucks and we're stuck with guys being

00:34:06.480 --> 00:34:08.940
able to duck fights and price themselves out

00:34:08.940 --> 00:34:11.380
by asking for 20 million when, like, come on,

00:34:11.380 --> 00:34:14.059
man, when was the last time you sold above 10

00:34:14.059 --> 00:34:16.420
,000 pay -per -views? It sounds like you're kind

00:34:16.420 --> 00:34:20.340
of an inverse... I don't know the fucking word.

00:34:20.420 --> 00:34:22.079
But you're kind of supporting the Dana White

00:34:22.079 --> 00:34:25.659
argument. That sounds like it. No, but they should

00:34:25.659 --> 00:34:29.679
get paid what they're valued. Leo, I think we

00:34:29.679 --> 00:34:35.119
gotta... Dana White good? No, this isn't Dana

00:34:35.119 --> 00:34:38.900
White good. Dana White gives these guys scraps.

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:43.239
It's not the same. It's not the same. I literally

00:34:43.239 --> 00:34:45.199
wrote an article about how Dana White's a cancer.

00:34:45.599 --> 00:34:51.449
Yeah. I have the paper trail. I have the paper

00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:55.610
trail. I think Dana White's a cancer. But I think

00:34:55.610 --> 00:34:59.389
people should get paid what they're worth. This

00:34:59.389 --> 00:35:02.530
doesn't mean pay them $20 million more than what

00:35:02.530 --> 00:35:07.090
they're worth. And it doesn't mean pay them less

00:35:07.090 --> 00:35:12.050
than a line cook either. If you sell good, you

00:35:12.050 --> 00:35:15.260
should get paid for what you sell. If you don't

00:35:15.260 --> 00:35:18.639
sell good, you should still get paid. But not,

00:35:18.719 --> 00:35:23.000
like, all the wealth in the world. All jokes

00:35:23.000 --> 00:35:25.239
aside, you're totally right. You should not be

00:35:25.239 --> 00:35:28.079
paying $10 million to run around the ring with

00:35:28.079 --> 00:35:31.539
those emails. Like, the excuse should not be,

00:35:31.639 --> 00:35:34.539
you are not paying me all the wealth in Fort

00:35:34.539 --> 00:35:37.119
Knox. The excuse should just be, I don't think

00:35:37.119 --> 00:35:39.519
I'm ready for this guy. Like, you're just giving

00:35:39.519 --> 00:35:42.710
guys an excuse. And I hate saying fucking because,

00:35:42.829 --> 00:35:44.210
honestly, it's Eddie Hearn. There's probably

00:35:44.210 --> 00:35:47.090
six different terms that probably went right

00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:50.150
against Brian Norman. You know how promoters

00:35:50.150 --> 00:35:54.590
always are. I would rather say that they're actually

00:35:54.590 --> 00:35:58.510
not ready for a fight than say that they weren't

00:35:58.510 --> 00:36:00.349
paid how much they were worth. You know what

00:36:00.349 --> 00:36:05.630
I mean? Yeah, because I know, like, I don't want

00:36:05.630 --> 00:36:08.050
to fight boots for a blank reason is way easier

00:36:08.050 --> 00:36:11.210
than... You're only paying me $1 .3 million.

00:36:16.690 --> 00:36:19.909
All right. We've got to keep moving. We've got

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Friday, May 30th. Matchroom in Guadalajara at

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the Domo Alcalde. This one's headlined by Manuel

00:40:06.429 --> 00:40:09.469
Gallegos versus Khalil Coe. This is apparently

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a rematch. Yes. For a light heavyweight trinket

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in the WBC. But the real attraction here to me

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is Murojan Akhmadaliev, a .k .a. MJ, versus Luis

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Castillo. This should be fun. I'm looking forward

00:40:26.630 --> 00:40:31.820
to this. That one should be fun. Khalil Coe.

00:40:32.760 --> 00:40:35.159
I kind of rate Khalil Coe, but, like, he's very

00:40:35.159 --> 00:40:37.400
much someone who, like, yeah, you met someone

00:40:37.400 --> 00:40:41.699
your size, finally. Because his career up to

00:40:41.699 --> 00:40:44.059
now, up to the last loss against Gallegos, was,

00:40:44.119 --> 00:40:47.920
like, guys who were technically light heavyweights,

00:40:47.920 --> 00:40:57.320
but definitely undersized. Like... Like, 168ers

00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:01.199
who definitely moved up or just don't belong.

00:41:01.340 --> 00:41:03.780
Like, they don't want to cut. Oh, yeah, they

00:41:03.780 --> 00:41:05.820
don't want to cut. That makes sense. Yeah, like,

00:41:05.940 --> 00:41:10.519
Bunit Bisla fights, like, near his weight. And

00:41:10.519 --> 00:41:12.420
you could just see the size difference when he

00:41:12.420 --> 00:41:16.739
got in the ring with Khalil. Khalil, I'll tell

00:41:16.739 --> 00:41:19.739
you, man. The Legos is actually his size. For

00:41:19.739 --> 00:41:21.300
the first couple rounds of that fight, he was

00:41:21.300 --> 00:41:24.179
fighting pretty good. Khalil. Yeah. But again,

00:41:24.480 --> 00:41:27.780
someone his own size. He just can't bully this

00:41:27.780 --> 00:41:32.159
guy, though. Exactly. He's just too small for

00:41:32.159 --> 00:41:39.059
him. He's a huge 175, but I mean, 175 is already

00:41:39.059 --> 00:41:44.440
kind of a land of giants anyways. Remember Zerdo

00:41:44.440 --> 00:41:50.800
175? Apparently. Hey, are you waiting for Bivol?

00:41:51.199 --> 00:41:56.199
Fight Day Wait was at like 220 for Bivol. Yeah.

00:41:57.440 --> 00:42:03.360
Like Land of Giants. Yeah, Land of Giants at

00:42:03.360 --> 00:42:11.340
this point. Anything more for this one before

00:42:11.340 --> 00:42:14.239
we move on to the other card that's on at the

00:42:14.239 --> 00:42:19.699
same time? Nope. All right. Golden Boy in Las

00:42:19.699 --> 00:42:23.760
Vegas. This card's pretty light. This is a lot

00:42:23.760 --> 00:42:26.739
of prospects. Headline is pretty good, though.

00:42:26.780 --> 00:42:31.059
Darius Fulgham versus Bektamir Melikuziev, a

00:42:31.059 --> 00:42:35.840
.k .a. Beck the Bully. Eric Priest in the co

00:42:35.840 --> 00:42:37.539
-main versus Luis Arias. That's a pretty good

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:43.099
fight. Eric Priest is on the come -up. He's pretty

00:42:43.099 --> 00:42:45.949
solid. I'm not saying he's going to be a world

00:42:45.949 --> 00:42:49.769
champion or anything, but he's solid. And Luis

00:42:49.769 --> 00:42:52.530
Arias is a good test. So that should be a good

00:42:52.530 --> 00:42:56.250
one. But yeah, Darius Fulgham versus Bektamir.

00:42:57.070 --> 00:42:59.969
Should be all right. Hopefully. I think Bektamir

00:42:59.969 --> 00:43:04.550
gets it done. Even though he got rocked by Gabe

00:43:04.550 --> 00:43:07.909
Rosado. Late stage Gabe Rosado. I still rate

00:43:07.909 --> 00:43:11.409
Beck as a pretty decent opponent. Or a pretty

00:43:11.409 --> 00:43:13.840
decent fighter. He's a good brother. He's a good...

00:43:13.840 --> 00:43:18.920
Oh, yeah. That's why it's a good fight. But Beck's

00:43:18.920 --> 00:43:22.059
a good offensive fighter. But if he doesn't get

00:43:22.059 --> 00:43:26.159
going, he kind of... He just doesn't get going

00:43:26.159 --> 00:43:30.880
much. Very limited. Very limited if he can't

00:43:30.880 --> 00:43:34.119
land his body shots. We'll see what happens to

00:43:34.119 --> 00:43:42.949
that fight. Yeah. Should be good. And the main

00:43:42.949 --> 00:43:47.190
reason we are here... Alright, looking good on

00:43:47.190 --> 00:43:50.710
time. Alright, PVC on Prime at the Michelob Ultra

00:43:50.710 --> 00:43:54.829
Arena in Las Vegas. Holy shit, this is more information

00:43:54.829 --> 00:43:58.989
for a PVC card than I usually have. It's a great

00:43:58.989 --> 00:44:01.610
card. Good PVC card, too. A lot of stuff going

00:44:01.610 --> 00:44:05.750
on here. And it's free. Oh, that's right. If

00:44:05.750 --> 00:44:08.710
you have Prime, it's... it's free on prime you

00:44:08.710 --> 00:44:10.489
should you should you should just have prime

00:44:10.489 --> 00:44:14.210
to begin with this is in the year of our lord

00:44:14.210 --> 00:44:20.630
2025 like whatever the other faults of amazon

00:44:20.630 --> 00:44:23.550
as a company prime is a good service to pay for

00:44:23.550 --> 00:44:25.710
it like it's worth the money yeah it definitely

00:44:25.710 --> 00:44:28.329
gets me yeah like like just like the fact that

00:44:28.329 --> 00:44:34.500
you get music streaming uh cheap shipping Invincible.

00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:36.739
And I think they have a deal where you either

00:44:36.739 --> 00:44:40.360
get Dash Pass or whatever, like delivery services

00:44:40.360 --> 00:44:44.960
close to you. Yeah. Really? I'll have to look

00:44:44.960 --> 00:44:49.659
into it. It's sadly, like, yeah, Amazon is definitely

00:44:49.659 --> 00:44:54.000
an evil corporation, but at the very least, they

00:44:54.000 --> 00:44:57.719
give you a service worth your dollar. They're

00:44:57.719 --> 00:45:01.800
kind of evil. They're still evil. They're an

00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.800
evil corporation for sure. But they're not scamming.

00:45:05.679 --> 00:45:09.099
They're not scamming you. Prime, please sponsor

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ProBucks. Well, the ProBucks fights, you can

00:45:12.179 --> 00:45:15.440
watch on Prime, so. I think ProBucks is good.

00:45:16.559 --> 00:45:18.320
ProBucks is good, always. Yeah, you actually

00:45:18.320 --> 00:45:21.820
can. Amazon and Roku, or just on the ProBucks

00:45:21.820 --> 00:45:32.039
app. Very nice. This is a good PVC card. Any

00:45:32.039 --> 00:45:33.239
highlights you want to highlight? Yeah, a few

00:45:33.239 --> 00:45:36.780
coming up from the bottom. Kermel Moten versus

00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:40.559
Miyamate Mastropa. Rennie Miyamate Mastropa.

00:45:41.760 --> 00:45:44.960
Another step -up fight? Another one for... I

00:45:44.960 --> 00:45:47.739
don't know. Is this a step -up fight? No, this

00:45:47.739 --> 00:45:52.039
is just like a nice... Still a stay -busy. Again,

00:45:52.280 --> 00:45:56.019
he's a fresh 18 -year -old with seven fights.

00:45:56.119 --> 00:45:58.179
Seven and oh, yeah. This is a good... Are you

00:45:58.179 --> 00:46:02.050
using the wrong verbal? I used the wrong wording.

00:46:02.230 --> 00:46:04.690
I meant like, you know. Keep it stepping. I believe.

00:46:05.030 --> 00:46:07.710
Rather than step up. Yeah. Yeah, keep it up.

00:46:07.869 --> 00:46:12.210
I do believe in Kermel, but this is very much

00:46:12.210 --> 00:46:15.369
we're going to continue putting him in front

00:46:15.369 --> 00:46:17.969
of a camera while he develops. Yeah. Because

00:46:17.969 --> 00:46:20.849
he's still easy. Despite his immense talent,

00:46:21.010 --> 00:46:23.949
he's still a project guy. He can still get better.

00:46:25.190 --> 00:46:27.289
For you. There's a lot of things you can do.

00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:32.320
that you think Ruban could make him a star of

00:46:32.320 --> 00:46:38.260
the future. Yeah. Isaac Lucero versus Luis Valenzuela.

00:46:38.260 --> 00:46:40.800
I'm not sure who these guys are, to be honest

00:46:40.800 --> 00:46:43.800
with you. I've seen their names before, but it's

00:46:43.800 --> 00:46:48.360
two undefeated guys, so that should be fun. Yeah,

00:46:48.400 --> 00:46:54.920
always fun. The only Hernandez. Versus Kyron

00:46:54.920 --> 00:46:58.280
Davis. Honestly, this is the one I'm looking

00:46:58.280 --> 00:47:00.579
forward to the most on the card. No disrespect

00:47:00.579 --> 00:47:06.519
to Kyron Davis, but Hernandez, Cuban who can

00:47:06.519 --> 00:47:10.980
punch, never a boring watch. I'm going to be

00:47:10.980 --> 00:47:12.340
honest, dude. I think this one can go either

00:47:12.340 --> 00:47:19.119
way. It is very early in Hernandez's pro career,

00:47:19.219 --> 00:47:24.719
so you're right. It's also 27, which is the Cuban

00:47:24.719 --> 00:47:30.119
40. The Chiron dude, Chiron, he's not bad. Not

00:47:30.119 --> 00:47:33.860
bad at all. I think if he wanted to, I think

00:47:33.860 --> 00:47:36.539
he could take it. I wouldn't count him out if

00:47:36.539 --> 00:47:39.780
I were you. Oh, no, not counting him out at all.

00:47:40.619 --> 00:47:45.219
No. Had a draw with Anthony Durrell. Not bad.

00:47:45.519 --> 00:47:48.519
Got his ass kicked by David Benavidez. That lasted

00:47:48.519 --> 00:47:51.760
longer than I expected. Yeah, that's to be expected,

00:47:51.900 --> 00:47:56.289
honestly. And Elijah Garcia, he... That should

00:47:56.289 --> 00:47:58.710
not have been a split decision. No, that was

00:47:58.710 --> 00:48:01.170
not a split. He took him to school on that one.

00:48:02.250 --> 00:48:09.269
He's a good opponent. The Cuban school, the new

00:48:09.269 --> 00:48:13.429
version of it, the puncher type, like Luis Ortiz,

00:48:13.550 --> 00:48:21.630
Yuri Orkuskembo, David Morel. Even Lara Ish when

00:48:21.630 --> 00:48:25.320
he wants to. In the latter stages. Heirs Lady.

00:48:25.699 --> 00:48:30.980
Heirs Lady Alvarez. It's going to be. Moving

00:48:30.980 --> 00:48:36.719
up, Jermall Charlo versus Tommy LaManna. Where

00:48:36.719 --> 00:48:40.340
have I seen Tommy LaManna? If Jermall isn't washed,

00:48:40.619 --> 00:48:46.559
he kind of wipes out LaManna. Portionally. But

00:48:46.559 --> 00:48:50.500
Jermall might be very washed, though. That's

00:48:50.500 --> 00:48:52.079
exactly what I was going to say. I don't know

00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:55.639
how strongly I feel in saying that he's not washed.

00:48:56.019 --> 00:48:59.420
How washed is he? I was going to say, he didn't

00:48:59.420 --> 00:49:02.260
even look good against Montiel or Benavidez Jr.,

00:49:02.260 --> 00:49:04.500
and that was two and four years ago, respectively.

00:49:05.139 --> 00:49:07.360
That was kind of funny seeing Benavidez Jr. lose.

00:49:08.679 --> 00:49:11.659
He looked kind of washed against Benavidez Jr.,

00:49:11.659 --> 00:49:17.119
so. We'll see. He might be. Might be good. LaMana

00:49:17.119 --> 00:49:24.679
lost to Jorge Cota, the demon, his name. He got

00:49:24.679 --> 00:49:29.099
his ass beat by Sebastian Fandora, Jermel Charlo,

00:49:29.300 --> 00:49:36.519
Jason Rosario, Erickson Lubin. Not a good name.

00:49:36.539 --> 00:49:43.179
That loss has aged poorly. He lost to Brian Mendoza.

00:49:43.690 --> 00:49:47.489
who we all know, Bo Hachuk, Tim Su, Fundora,

00:49:47.610 --> 00:49:53.369
he beat Fundora. Lost to Jesus Ramos. Also has

00:49:53.369 --> 00:49:57.750
not aged very well. Yeah. Like, if Charlo's washed,

00:49:58.130 --> 00:50:01.289
it's going to be a very long night. Yeah. Even

00:50:01.289 --> 00:50:04.849
if La Mana is fragile. But, like, I don't know.

00:50:05.230 --> 00:50:08.670
Charlo works his best when he's boxing because

00:50:08.670 --> 00:50:11.050
the stoppages kind of just come when he's boxing.

00:50:11.679 --> 00:50:15.519
When he tries too hard, he gases. He looks like

00:50:15.519 --> 00:50:19.320
shit. That's the seventh round. If he goes past

00:50:19.320 --> 00:50:22.480
seven rounds, he looks bad. No, because he kept

00:50:22.480 --> 00:50:26.760
his gas with Dervychenko. But he was boxing the

00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:28.539
whole time. He boxes. When he boxes, he looks

00:50:28.539 --> 00:50:30.739
great. I'm talking about the last couple of years.

00:50:31.619 --> 00:50:34.489
Oh, yeah. No, he looks like shit. As I'm saying,

00:50:34.550 --> 00:50:37.150
no. I'm talking about, like, recently. I'm not

00:50:37.150 --> 00:50:38.969
talking about, like, before. Like, recently.

00:50:39.269 --> 00:50:41.610
Recently in, like, quotation marks. His last

00:50:41.610 --> 00:50:44.510
two fights have been... Oh, he looked like dog

00:50:44.510 --> 00:50:49.469
shit against Montiel. After... Yeah. Recent as

00:50:49.469 --> 00:50:52.130
in four years. Recent if it was four years ago,

00:50:52.210 --> 00:50:56.550
so... I can't imagine his... I don't know. Charlo

00:50:56.550 --> 00:51:01.349
feels very wasted talent. Bad but true. Got sick.

00:51:02.349 --> 00:51:06.099
Because... He's definitely... I found him to

00:51:06.099 --> 00:51:09.559
be the... Like, when he's boxing, the better

00:51:09.559 --> 00:51:13.079
Charlo, because he's not as... He just has the

00:51:13.079 --> 00:51:15.159
better hand -eye coordination in finding spots,

00:51:15.559 --> 00:51:20.739
where Jermel is a little hesitant sometimes.

00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:27.019
But, I mean, two fights and... Three fights in

00:51:27.019 --> 00:51:31.719
five years is rough. The thing is that I feel

00:51:31.719 --> 00:51:35.750
like... curse of planning a future fight between

00:51:35.750 --> 00:51:38.670
the two double -headers. You know what I mean?

00:51:39.510 --> 00:51:47.949
Someone's got to lose. As it happens. I think

00:51:47.949 --> 00:51:50.909
Charlo's more prone to lose here. I was about

00:51:50.909 --> 00:51:52.389
to say, yeah, Charlo's going to be more prone

00:51:52.389 --> 00:51:55.670
to lose. He's got fucking, what, two years since,

00:51:55.750 --> 00:51:59.210
almost two years since Benavidez. Fuck, dude.

00:51:59.409 --> 00:52:02.420
It's going to be rough. I also just like Plant.

00:52:03.219 --> 00:52:07.679
I also just like Caleb Plant a lot more. Caleb

00:52:07.679 --> 00:52:13.059
Plant also has cardio issues, but he doesn't

00:52:13.059 --> 00:52:16.360
lose his boxing ability when he gasses either.

00:52:16.480 --> 00:52:19.219
He just gasses. The guy who's fighting Resendez,

00:52:19.340 --> 00:52:22.719
he's not a horrible fighter. He's not terrible.

00:52:22.860 --> 00:52:25.199
He's not bad. Yeah, he's not bad at all. I think

00:52:25.199 --> 00:52:26.579
that's going to be a good scrap for Caleb Plant.

00:52:27.500 --> 00:52:31.119
It's a good stay -busy fight, I got to say. But

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.579
if they're playing to put Jamal, Charlo, and

00:52:33.579 --> 00:52:36.699
Kilo playing in the future, I don't know. Every

00:52:36.699 --> 00:52:38.639
time they do those stupid double -headers where

00:52:38.639 --> 00:52:41.760
in the future they're going to fight, something

00:52:41.760 --> 00:52:46.340
always goes wrong. This is a fight that's been

00:52:46.340 --> 00:52:53.000
in the works since COVID, basically. When it

00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:55.500
happens, it'll be fun. It's going to happen.

00:52:55.789 --> 00:52:58.650
This is just more or less, oh shit, we still

00:52:58.650 --> 00:53:03.269
have this storyline to play out. Especially because

00:53:03.269 --> 00:53:10.369
if Charlo comes back not washed, what a perfect

00:53:10.369 --> 00:53:14.289
way to get back into the mix at 168. With Caleb

00:53:14.289 --> 00:53:19.550
Plant too. Especially if you stop him. Benavidez

00:53:19.550 --> 00:53:23.510
did not stop him. Benavidez put belt to ass on

00:53:23.510 --> 00:53:27.349
him later in the fight. Which, I'll tell you,

00:53:27.369 --> 00:53:30.110
that was a fun fight, too. Well, that was a good

00:53:30.110 --> 00:53:32.590
fight. Plant had that fucking dog in him, dude.

00:53:32.889 --> 00:53:34.909
Yeah, he did. Like that Trevor McCombie fight.

00:53:35.150 --> 00:53:38.130
Trevor McCombie versus Plant, dude. Oh, my God.

00:53:38.150 --> 00:53:41.510
That was fun. I love that fight. Even the Durrell

00:53:41.510 --> 00:53:47.789
fight. Oh, that was iconic. Like, Plant's legs

00:53:47.789 --> 00:53:50.750
might not last all 12, but fuck his heart. His

00:53:50.750 --> 00:53:55.969
heart gives you everything. Even his... Against

00:53:55.969 --> 00:53:59.449
Katsugari, his title fight, his first one, he

00:53:59.449 --> 00:54:04.230
gassed so late. He gassed late. He gassed late,

00:54:04.329 --> 00:54:08.989
but he didn't even go down. And Jose was putting

00:54:08.989 --> 00:54:11.130
Bell to ass, too, in the last couple rounds.

00:54:11.849 --> 00:54:15.230
The funniest thing is that with Caleb Plant,

00:54:15.309 --> 00:54:17.909
his biggest audience, his fan base, is the Hispanic

00:54:17.909 --> 00:54:21.949
community. It's funny. What's because of the

00:54:21.949 --> 00:54:26.360
Canelo fight? Like, you saw the other two fights

00:54:26.360 --> 00:54:29.059
that Canelo had, his title fights at 168. Like,

00:54:29.059 --> 00:54:30.980
Callum Smith shriveled away and just kind of

00:54:30.980 --> 00:54:35.179
accepted it. Yeah. Saunders quit. On his stool.

00:54:35.460 --> 00:54:38.360
Basically. As soon as the adversity came, basically.

00:54:39.219 --> 00:54:44.559
No, I'll give anyone a pass for a broken orbital

00:54:44.559 --> 00:54:46.860
except for Saunders. Except BJS. I want to say,

00:54:46.920 --> 00:54:50.960
yeah. He gets no pass considering. Dubois had

00:54:50.960 --> 00:54:52.679
the same shit, and he's like, I'd never quit

00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.239
on my stool. I'd have to die out there. Next

00:54:55.239 --> 00:54:58.340
fight. Breaks his orbital, quits on his stool.

00:54:59.500 --> 00:55:01.920
And he's going to come back? Fight on a bench?

00:55:02.179 --> 00:55:08.079
Or Chris Eubank? What, at the 170? 175? I don't

00:55:08.079 --> 00:55:10.860
fucking know. Fuck, have you seen those? He looks

00:55:10.860 --> 00:55:16.739
like a medicine ball. Fuck yeah, dude. But anyways,

00:55:16.780 --> 00:55:18.880
back to Caleb playing, dude. He was the one.

00:55:19.280 --> 00:55:22.360
That gave Canelo the hardest fight. With the

00:55:22.360 --> 00:55:27.000
most heart. Exactly. That was a fun fight, dude.

00:55:27.059 --> 00:55:29.820
That was a fun -ass fight, too. Even when Canelo

00:55:29.820 --> 00:55:32.460
cracked him, Canelo still had to go and finish

00:55:32.460 --> 00:55:36.300
him. Oh, yeah. He got up the first knockdown.

00:55:37.000 --> 00:55:40.340
He didn't fold. Canelo had to fucking hunt him.

00:55:41.199 --> 00:55:44.480
Fun as fuck. That was Canelo's last good fight.

00:55:46.440 --> 00:55:50.349
Don't remind me. But Caleb Plant, I think he

00:55:50.349 --> 00:55:55.030
takes out Resendiz. Oh, yeah. Not that Resendiz

00:55:55.030 --> 00:55:58.849
is any bad. It's got to be early. It's got to

00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:02.150
be early. Caleb definitely, especially with Charlo

00:56:02.150 --> 00:56:05.010
on the card, is going to look great early. If

00:56:05.010 --> 00:56:07.530
it goes late, it's not going to look as great.

00:56:08.050 --> 00:56:10.769
Yeah. He's not going to look very great if they

00:56:10.769 --> 00:56:12.150
go late. What are you thinking right now? What

00:56:12.150 --> 00:56:15.690
are you thinking? Oh, I'm thinking Caleb Plant.

00:56:16.420 --> 00:56:18.820
Probably going to end this pretty quickly. Resendiz

00:56:18.820 --> 00:56:23.760
is okay. I wouldn't write home about this fight.

00:56:25.280 --> 00:56:27.860
This isn't one where I'd be like, hey, casual

00:56:27.860 --> 00:56:31.679
sports friends, check this out. This wouldn't

00:56:31.679 --> 00:56:34.340
be it. This is something I get the hardcores

00:56:34.340 --> 00:56:39.699
over for a nice couple beers and some snacks.

00:56:39.800 --> 00:56:41.880
You get the hardcores in. Yeah, the people who

00:56:41.880 --> 00:56:46.369
know the Charlo plant, the history to that. That

00:56:46.369 --> 00:56:49.570
would be... Yeah, people... Yeah. Like, most

00:56:49.570 --> 00:56:52.030
you're gonna see are, like, the highlights and,

00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:54.070
uh, Kermel's fight on social media, and honestly,

00:56:54.210 --> 00:56:56.150
that might be all you need to watch if you're

00:56:56.150 --> 00:56:58.849
casual. Yeah, unless you... Well, just the highlights

00:56:58.849 --> 00:57:01.349
is pretty much all you're gonna see from these.

00:57:01.710 --> 00:57:03.650
Unless... Unless he looks like that's KO, of

00:57:03.650 --> 00:57:07.389
course. That's gonna be a highlight on its own.

00:57:07.530 --> 00:57:09.409
That's a highlight. I know. I mean, like, he's

00:57:09.409 --> 00:57:11.190
gonna be, like... Like, that's gonna be the main,

00:57:11.250 --> 00:57:14.309
like, highlight, bro. Oh, right. The main one.

00:57:14.349 --> 00:57:18.440
Main, main one. You know? Oh, yeah. That's all

00:57:18.440 --> 00:57:23.079
I had, though. For the whole card in general.

00:57:23.860 --> 00:57:25.719
I think that's it for this week, huh? It is.

00:57:25.840 --> 00:57:33.619
Yeah. All right, let me do... You've been listening

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00:58:44.130 --> 00:58:47.130
the, like, the phone number and the social media

00:58:47.130 --> 00:58:50.530
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Shoot. So we're heading into PBC on Prime. Some

00:59:11.300 --> 00:59:15.059
fun stuff on Friday. And we got Ohashi coming

00:59:15.059 --> 00:59:18.800
up. What have we got for parting words? Roblox,

00:59:18.860 --> 00:59:24.480
good. Japan, good. I think Josh... Brian Norman,

00:59:24.559 --> 00:59:29.119
bad. Brian Norman, bad. I have a suspect... I

00:59:29.119 --> 00:59:30.920
have a suspecting feeling that Josh might not

00:59:30.920 --> 00:59:34.840
like Turkelosheik. Maybe. I'm not sure where

00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:37.659
you got that. I have a suspecting feeling that

00:59:37.659 --> 00:59:42.730
Josh is a... is a, uh, ultimate fucking casuals,

00:59:42.730 --> 00:59:48.750
uh, fan. Yeah. And guys that you wish. Yeah.

00:59:48.849 --> 00:59:51.730
We talked the box over there too. So it's, uh,

00:59:51.789 --> 00:59:54.670
I'm joking. We, we, we, we love ultimate fucking

00:59:54.670 --> 00:59:57.989
casuals over here. Yeah. It's all, it's all one

00:59:57.989 --> 01:00:00.969
big, happy fucking family talking sports. Big

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luck. The big, happy Lux family. Uh, parting

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words fucking check out the social media handles

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um i'm most active on instagram i don't know

01:00:12.000 --> 01:00:15.199
i keep trying to convince somebody to take over

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twitter for me because i just really don't like

01:00:17.099 --> 01:00:20.840
using it but there's that and phone number a33

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lux spots always interested to hear what you

01:00:23.380 --> 01:00:26.480
have to say shout out to matt thank you don king

01:00:26.480 --> 01:00:36.800
is indeed bad so brave you can say so brave I

01:00:36.800 --> 01:00:40.559
don't think we caught that, actually. No. Aw,

01:00:40.880 --> 01:00:45.119
crap. In post. He's going to edit it to say Don

01:00:45.119 --> 01:00:49.000
King good in post. Hell nah, dude. Nah, I don't

01:00:49.000 --> 01:00:50.559
do it like that. This is propaganda. This is

01:00:50.559 --> 01:00:53.159
propaganda right here. That's it for this edition

01:00:53.159 --> 01:00:55.880
of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll be back up in your

01:00:55.880 --> 01:00:56.599
ears next week.
