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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. That

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B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Alright, ready? Alright, I'm ready. Alright.

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Ready? Boxing B -Sides. Back up in your ears.

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Joined by the one and only Alex. Do you remember

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why I keep saying that? Why do you say that?

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Oh, because the first time you were ever on,

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you said the one and only. That's how you introduce

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yourself. I don't think we have any other Alex's

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in our network. He is the one and only Alex.

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Once you bring in another Alex, then he's no

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longer the one and only Alex. I'm only one. He's

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one of the only Alexes at that point. The OG.

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The OG Alex, exactly. It's like Jake from State

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Farm. And Josh, out on the East Coast. How are

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you living? Living good, watching Provox. Provox

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is good. Oh, it's a good name. Before we started,

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Alex, you had posed the question, or you wanted

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to pose the question of how does paying fighters

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too much have a negative impact on the sport?

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Yeah, I wanted to say, because I kind of forgot

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about saying last week, but I think paying fighters

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too much kind of takes the fire out of them.

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If you give them retirement money, they're just

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going to be, Giving you retirement fights, if

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that makes any sense. Yeah, that does make sense.

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So, Turkey overpaying fighters, which is ludicrous.

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I don't want to say, I don't want to be a UFC

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stan and say like, oh, they should pay their

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fighters $100 ,000 and $50 ,000 if they win.

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No, no, no, no, no. I don't like that at all.

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However, paying a fighter like Ryan, how much

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was Ryan getting paid? Like $30 million? I don't

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know if you guys know how much he got paid. He

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got paid a lot, right? Too much. Too much. We

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know he got paid too much. Yes, that's it. He

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just got paid way too much. And lost to Rowley.

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Like, 20. He got paid 20 dollars to lose to Rowley,

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who is a fucking, a PBC fighter. Again. Rowley

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won on a DAZN card when he was a PBC fighter.

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That's crazy. You know, something that happened

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when PBC first started and they had that huge

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angel funding. from the venture venture capitalist

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firm i think it's like william morris or something

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like that but they they would pay fighters a

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healthy amount like the type the kind of money

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that they're still getting paid today and i remember

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a lot of people bitching like uh they're overpaying

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fighters and they're do they're doing exactly

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what you were saying like you're giving them

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retirement money that they're going to give you

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retirement fights yeah and then Eddie Hearn and

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his DAZN fucking war chest comes in and starts

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doing it as well. Considerably more money than

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PBC ever did. But that time, everybody was like,

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oh, look, he's such a brilliant businessman.

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If you pay fighters what they're worth, they're

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going to give you their best. Where's the consistency

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here? I don't know. And then Turkey comes along

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and pays a fighter fucking oil money and bill

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off the fucking Texas Flames. Blood money. The

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difference is, like, with the guys like Farmer

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and Andrade, like, the factor, it's only like

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a factor of 10 at most. Like, instead of making

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$100 ,000 at the most, they're making a million,

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which is like... You're still way overpaying

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these guys, but they're not stars and it's not

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noticeable. But a guy like Ryan Garcia who's

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in the millions and you start giving him tens

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of millions and these guys already have ego issues.

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Eddie Hearn fucked it over. The reason why nobody

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says shit to Turkey is because they also want

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a payday too. So fuck all the other partners

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as well. You'll notice when Turkey starts paying

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us because we're going to kiss his ass. It'll

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be a sharp, sharp turn. Yeah. Like, listen, man,

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if you want to wire me a million bucks, Turkey,

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like, you can pay me enough. You can pay me,

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but I ain't going to suck your dick. I will.

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I'm the opposite. I will suck the money out of

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your ass if it's enough. I agree. I agree. I

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was going to say, we're not in a bargaining position

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here. We got it. Let's move into the recaps.

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Fucking Queensberry. I only watched one of these,

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and it was on May 10th. Anthony Caccacci stops

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Lee Wood. It was a corner stoppage. A towel came

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in. Yeah. Yeah. It was fun. But it was... Kakach

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is on that... Kakach is on that tour beating

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up all the, like, DAZN Brits. Yeah. I'm gonna

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say this right now to the people listening. I'm

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not gonna be talking much because I missed...

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I missed a lot of the boxing this weekend, unfortunately.

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So, you guys are blessed to not hear a lot from

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me. Damn it. Yeah, I mean, he beat Cordina Warrington

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and now Wood, and it's like... All three of these

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guys were washed. But also, Kakashi's kind of

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washed because he is 36 at super featherweight.

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That's old. That's fucking old. I don't know.

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Who does he fight next? Because he could totally

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fight Navarrete or Oshaki Foster, but okay. Yeah.

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I don't see him doing... Why go through the other

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guys at super featherweight? You don't have...

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Oh, he has the IBO title. Fucking excuse me.

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I think he should just keep... These guys are

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still world -ranked, but keep beating the domestic

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guys. The title will come up for you, hopefully,

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before you retire, and you get your shot that

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way. Instead of, let me fight an actual dangerous,

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dangerous titleist. Like Oshaki Foster. Oshaki

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Foster is very dangerous, man. I agree. Yeah,

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that's dangerous, especially for an old... I

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think Nick Paul's ass. I think Espinoza has ass.

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I think Angelo's ass. Oshaki Foster is the prime

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126 fighter. It's Superfeather. Superfeather.

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Superfeather. It's 130. We're at 130. Oh, sorry,

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130, 130. I better take that back. 130, Oshagie

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Foster is the best. Also, I am definitely not

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being sponsored by Riyad to say this. Is Oshagie

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Foster a Riyad guy? I don't think so. I know

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Raymond. Ray Ford probably is. Yeah, Ray Ford

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is. They definitely won't be. I'm just picking

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up my ass right now. I don't know. Moving to

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Pro Box Good. Only one I watched was Erickson

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Lubin. Stops RGL Holmes in the 11th. Man, I was

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kind of high on RGL Holmes. I was thinking he

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was going to... I said he can make it grimy.

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And he did. But... That was still pretty hard

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to watch. Like, he didn't really seem too interested

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in engaging and more than clinching. Yeah. I

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mean, Lubin got it done, though. He did. That's,

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like, there's the Pro Box guarantee. Lubin wasn't

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going to settle for that win. You make it or

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you break it. Yeah. Especially Lubin totally

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needed that. The inactivity wasn't great for

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him. He's only 29, which is really surprising.

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It feels like he's been around forever. He kind

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of has been. He got sent to space in 2017 against

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Charlo. Got the fucking Christ beaten out of

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him in 22. Lubin really lubed up his career today.

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He's still around. I think, like, honestly, like,

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as much as I'll cry about Lubin robbing Ramos,

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Jesus Ramos, like, he's still in there. He's

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definitely not beating a top guy, but, like,

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you know, if Xander Zayas wants, like, that real

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floor raiser. He wants some serious smoke, not

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just the top right protection. Yeah, like. Like,

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Lubin's totally, like, a free, like, not free

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in regards of, like, a free win, but free in

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terms of, like, the schedule lines up, the money

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lines up, and, like, there's no promotional issues

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in the way. That fight's never going to happen.

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I can dream. I think it'd be good for Zayas.

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Or if Lubin just is him at the age of 29. Like...

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Sure. Why not? Why not? What else is he going

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to do other than beat up the poor Probox guys?

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Or get beaten up by a Probox guy who turns out

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to be fucking amazing. Who knows? He could also

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fight Charles Conwell. Actually, I wouldn't mind

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a rematch with Fandora. That fight was pretty

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fun. Do you want to see Lubin get his face rearranged

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again? I mean, he knocked Fundora down with a

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fucking great shot. Like, it's not like Fundora's

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invincible. True. Yeah, that's true. Like, I'm

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sure if Lubin gets hit even slightly less, it's

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still more of a fight. Because I'm like, I don't

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think Fundora's fixed many of his problems either.

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What else is next? This one. This one. I'm sure

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Sebastian Garcia is still around. It's too older,

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guys. Yeah. Ray Murataya, UD over Zaur Abdullayev.

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I'm on the Ray Murataya train. Yeah. Fantastic.

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Hey, Murataya's been good. He's Mexican. Yeah.

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He's been good. I don't think there's... Are

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there guys that lightweight for him to step up

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against? Not named Shakur. Or Tank. If they want

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to do a fight with... He's a top -ranked guy,

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though. Keyshawn Davis. Yeah, well... I think

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Keyshawn beats him, though. Yeah. If they want

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a lot of money, they can have Keyshawn versus...

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versus Raymond. And they can have Tank versus

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Shakur, and the winner of those two fights is

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Fight Pro Disputed. God. God. Shakur, Tank. But

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that will never happen. Yeah, no. Who knows,

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man? Turkey might make his action figures. No.

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Right again. But Tank's not doing that shit.

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Yeah. Yeah, very much. Very much for Murataya.

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He's kind of got to sit still and wait for things

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to sort themselves out. He's going to have to

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cross the street to get some of the better fights.

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Yep. Or move up. Yeah. Because it's kind of tied

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up. The names at the very top of the division

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are definitely a tough ask. Because it's Kishan,

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Tank, and Shakur. Lamont Roach is up there. Hey,

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you know what? If Roach, when, you know what?

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No, not if. When Roach loses the tank, then we

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can have a Murataya Roach and that'd be good.

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You think that Roach loses the tank again? What?

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You think that Roach loses the tank in the rematch?

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I think he does. I think tank adjusts. Roach

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also, I don't doubt that Roach hasn't been training

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exactly the most, considering he's still on his

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victory lap tour after drawing with Tank. That's

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why I think they haven't made the fight yet.

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It's because Tank's waiting it out. Tank's probably

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been training. Tank's definitely been training.

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If he's not in trouble, he's training. That's

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usually how it's been. Yeah, but like roach has

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been like drinking at NBA games and shit and

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just showing up to like like he's made a lot

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of public Appearances he's been partying in public

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a lot. So I Think we'll see we'll run Sure, we'll

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enter thing. Yeah No, no Well, I mean it's it's

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the tanks benefit to do the rematch sooner than

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later because you don't let roach get back into

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that training rhythm but that's a That's more

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politics than boxing, really. Yeah. Emmanuel

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Navarrete versus Charlie Suarez. First question.

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Was it a headbutt? Was it a punch? We saw the

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video. It was a punch. Yeah. Okay, good. It was

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a punch. No, but, like, you don't even need,

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like, the zoom in angle. Like, you could see

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it. Like, in front of the referee. A punch land

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and he starts bleeding. I remember this one day

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where Josh actually said that it's different

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being ringside and different being a judge. Yeah.

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I'm playing devil's advocate now. That's like

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Josh did with Ting. I'm sick of Navarrete though.

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He keeps getting these fucking bailouts every

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time. He should have been stopped with Liam Wilson.

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Like, conveniently, he got enough of a rest for

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a bailout. The draw with Konsei Sao was a pretty

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lucky bailout. Didn't get bailed out versus Berencik.

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No, he didn't. Berencik. I don't think he could

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have bailed him out there. And even then, some

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of the scores were a little tight. The split

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decision. Yeah. So, like, they tried. Like, he's

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been under the top -ranked protection program.

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His first title fight was against Isaac Dogme.

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I remember the broadcast. I remember the color

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commentary. The color commentary for that fight,

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they were talking about Dogme spars his dad and

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his brother and his cousin. That's how he trains.

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No, this guy's peak top -ranked protection program.

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Like, bro, there's no way. Like, Liam Wilson,

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like, the Liam Wilson one drove me nuts. Because,

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like, you literally gave him enough time to recover

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after Liam Wilson would just... beating the piss

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out of him. You beat the shit out of Valdez?

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No. I'll give him that. Actually, I will give

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him that one. I'm not gonna cape for Valdez either.

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But, like, there's been so many, like, sketchy

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calls and, like, funny matchmaking that's gone

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never its way that, like, come on, man. It happened

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again. See you, Kim, Mr. Kirk. Fuck. No, bro,

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I just... He's also a super feather. Maybe 130.

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Look at the 130 names. You know what? You know,

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Shecky Foster and Kakash. Ray Ford, if you really.

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I don't know if he moves up. Keep doing it. I'm

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just, I don't want to see never. I need never

00:17:59.519 --> 00:18:06.940
to just, like, not have a controversy. What about

00:18:06.940 --> 00:18:10.500
him making weight? Yeah, that too. Actually,

00:18:10.539 --> 00:18:13.240
the Liam Wilson fight also had some sketchy shit

00:18:13.240 --> 00:18:17.759
with the weight. Liam Wilson, if you look at

00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:21.140
Liam Wilson's weights, he always weighs in right

00:18:21.140 --> 00:18:25.099
at the limit, right? He weighed in at 126 for

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a fight at 130. Meanwhile, Navarette weighed

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in right under 130, just right at the limit.

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Lee Wilson has never weighed 126 pounds in his

00:18:37.769 --> 00:18:45.569
life. So that was the... There's my rant about

00:18:45.569 --> 00:18:47.849
never. There's my top -ranked protection program

00:18:47.849 --> 00:18:51.869
conspiracy. You think the Liam Wilson scale was

00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:57.190
fiddled? It was fiddled. It had to have been.

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Liam Wilson has never weighed 126 pounds in his

00:19:00.289 --> 00:19:03.890
life. And conveniently, he chooses to, like,

00:19:03.910 --> 00:19:07.549
conveniently, he shows up at 126 pounds, like,

00:19:07.670 --> 00:19:10.589
the same day that Navarrete, like, barely squeezes

00:19:10.589 --> 00:19:13.470
under the scales. He's also a fucking weight

00:19:13.470 --> 00:19:15.769
bully, too. I bet you, I'm hearing to you, he's,

00:19:15.829 --> 00:19:19.509
like, 160, dude. Yeah. Well, like, he's been

00:19:19.509 --> 00:19:21.549
looking fat lately, too, which is, like, how

00:19:21.549 --> 00:19:23.750
do you look fat? Like, how do you show up to

00:19:23.750 --> 00:19:26.190
fight? Like, you show up emaciated to the weigh

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-in, and then you show up kind of chubby the

00:19:27.789 --> 00:19:30.309
next day. Crazy. I don't know how the fuck you

00:19:30.309 --> 00:19:33.829
eat that. Like, I was gonna say, like, even guys

00:19:33.829 --> 00:19:35.710
like Rowley, like, I've seen Rowley show up at

00:19:35.710 --> 00:19:38.470
180 for a fight at 135, but, like, he's still

00:19:38.470 --> 00:19:40.910
got his six -pack, right? Like, he's not fat.

00:19:43.690 --> 00:19:47.910
He's just heavy. He's just heavy? Like, yeah,

00:19:48.150 --> 00:19:50.309
he's... Rowley's a mad weight bully, but also,

00:19:50.390 --> 00:19:54.509
like, I have no idea how bad Navarrete does it,

00:19:54.529 --> 00:19:58.369
where he has actual, like, love handles. Yeah,

00:19:58.390 --> 00:20:02.450
he did in this fight. I couldn't stop looking

00:20:02.450 --> 00:20:09.829
at him. It's so frustrating because you're like,

00:20:09.930 --> 00:20:14.450
this guy is kind of stinky. If he had different

00:20:14.450 --> 00:20:19.170
matchmaking, he probably still wouldn't have

00:20:19.170 --> 00:20:22.549
a world title. Why do you think he's being protected

00:20:22.549 --> 00:20:26.109
by top rank? Let's ask that question. He's a

00:20:26.109 --> 00:20:27.809
Mexican fighter in the lower weight classes.

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And top rank doesn't have many. Especially at

00:20:33.970 --> 00:20:38.009
the time he came around. Like, if you look, if

00:20:38.009 --> 00:20:40.769
you remember his fights, his fight with, uh,

00:20:40.950 --> 00:20:44.490
Isaac Dogway, like, basically, they had him and

00:20:44.490 --> 00:20:49.269
Valdez for lower weight class, like, Latin American

00:20:49.269 --> 00:20:52.789
fighters. That was really, yeah, you're right.

00:20:54.210 --> 00:20:56.759
Because, like, they didn't really... Because,

00:20:56.759 --> 00:20:59.700
like, yeah, like, you can technically say guys

00:20:59.700 --> 00:21:01.960
like Burchelt were around, but, like, Burchelt

00:21:01.960 --> 00:21:06.000
wasn't really a super top -ranked aligned one.

00:21:08.359 --> 00:21:11.880
Yeah. Like, you have Valdez and you have Navarrete

00:21:11.880 --> 00:21:14.279
when they built him. And even now, like, yeah,

00:21:14.299 --> 00:21:16.019
they have Moritaya and everything, but, like,

00:21:16.079 --> 00:21:19.259
Navarrete still sells tickets. Somewhat, yeah.

00:21:20.160 --> 00:21:23.960
So... People still tune in. Like, clearly there's

00:21:23.960 --> 00:21:26.339
a monetary incentive to keeping him in world

00:21:26.339 --> 00:21:31.440
title business. But also, like, I just, like,

00:21:31.559 --> 00:21:35.319
I just think he also just has really good luck

00:21:35.319 --> 00:21:38.660
that, like, there's been so many opportunities

00:21:38.660 --> 00:21:43.720
for him to just, like, he gets that nod. Because

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it can't all have been blatant corruption, right?

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There's some incompetence in there, too. You

00:21:51.200 --> 00:21:54.460
also might be favored by God. Yeah. He's got

00:21:54.460 --> 00:21:57.940
the heavenly mandate to hold on to the WBO forever.

00:21:59.779 --> 00:22:04.579
Gross. Gross. Charlie Suarez should have won

00:22:04.579 --> 00:22:07.420
that fight. Literally fucking punched him in

00:22:07.420 --> 00:22:10.940
the face. Whatever. They'll probably run it back

00:22:10.940 --> 00:22:14.460
and then Navarrete will win a weird decision.

00:22:16.519 --> 00:22:19.880
Unanimous. Yeah, weird unanimous decision while

00:22:19.880 --> 00:22:24.099
weighing in at, like, 220 on fight night. Charlie

00:22:24.099 --> 00:22:27.180
Suarez happens to magically weigh in at, like,

00:22:27.180 --> 00:22:35.839
120. Yeah. Like, I swear, like, you notice that,

00:22:35.859 --> 00:22:39.259
like, every time they, like, you can tell when

00:22:39.259 --> 00:22:40.960
the scale is rigged and when it isn't because

00:22:40.960 --> 00:22:44.369
whenever the scale, like... isn't rigged this

00:22:44.369 --> 00:22:46.450
is the most conspiracy theory i'll ever get in

00:22:46.450 --> 00:22:48.730
my life by the way and it's about emmanuel navarrete

00:22:48.730 --> 00:22:53.230
let's hear it but basically like you notice he

00:22:53.230 --> 00:22:55.710
like every time you get a news report of oh he

00:22:55.710 --> 00:22:57.829
almost passed out or he failed his first way

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and it's always like his opponent weighs in fine

00:23:00.910 --> 00:23:03.589
and when it's like whenever he doesn't struggle

00:23:03.589 --> 00:23:06.369
his opponent is like suspiciously liked or it's

00:23:06.369 --> 00:23:10.859
valdez he's another fucking weight bully Well,

00:23:10.880 --> 00:23:13.099
why would they have the opponent weigh less?

00:23:13.180 --> 00:23:15.740
Let me ask you that. Well, because it's the same

00:23:15.740 --> 00:23:20.619
scale. They dial the scale down so that Nav can

00:23:20.619 --> 00:23:23.299
make weight. Especially because they use digital

00:23:23.299 --> 00:23:26.460
scales nowadays. You put a bit of weight on the

00:23:26.460 --> 00:23:29.119
scale, you zero it, and then it doesn't register

00:23:29.119 --> 00:23:34.960
that. So you're calling Nav a fatty then? Have

00:23:34.960 --> 00:23:38.509
you seen him in the ring? He is a fatty! I'm

00:23:38.509 --> 00:23:40.210
trying to get a rise out of Josh. I just want

00:23:40.210 --> 00:23:42.049
to hear him get mad. No, he is a fatty, bro.

00:23:42.990 --> 00:23:46.029
I want to hear him get mad. I like angry Josh.

00:23:46.509 --> 00:23:50.029
Angry Josh is awesome. This is bleak. This is

00:23:50.029 --> 00:23:52.450
the only time I'll get actually mad, too. Like,

00:23:52.450 --> 00:23:56.569
what the fuck? I guarantee you they're going

00:23:56.569 --> 00:23:59.710
to have a Nav versus Keyshawn fight. Please,

00:23:59.769 --> 00:24:03.289
bro. I need Keyshawn to win that. They're going

00:24:03.289 --> 00:24:05.819
to do something like that, dude. They're going

00:24:05.819 --> 00:24:10.119
to cash Nav out soon, probably, because he's

00:24:10.119 --> 00:24:16.720
30, and you can't keep doing this shit, hopefully.

00:24:19.880 --> 00:24:22.240
You know, maybe I'll be surprised. I'll be 40,

00:24:23.279 --> 00:24:25.880
and he'll be like 50, and I'll be like, God damn

00:24:25.880 --> 00:24:29.259
it, does this guy still have the WBO title? He

00:24:29.259 --> 00:24:30.559
can't keep getting away with it. Then you'll

00:24:30.559 --> 00:24:32.400
come back and have a... Do you have a comeback

00:24:32.400 --> 00:24:36.619
run, too, with Top Rank? Fuck it, bro. I'll go

00:24:36.619 --> 00:24:39.140
on Ozempic and beat him myself if I'm 40 and

00:24:39.140 --> 00:24:42.640
this guy still has a title. Yeah, you probably

00:24:42.640 --> 00:24:47.619
would be him. If this guy still has a title when

00:24:47.619 --> 00:24:53.140
I'm 40, I'll come back, bro. Fuck. Oh, well,

00:24:53.180 --> 00:24:55.140
that's why I'm out of steam now. Let's go into

00:24:55.140 --> 00:24:57.039
the previews. No, there's Sunday. Sunday had

00:24:57.039 --> 00:25:01.599
some stuff. Yeah. I only picked up two of them.

00:25:02.720 --> 00:25:06.640
Hayato Tsutsumi stops Jaime Arboleda in this

00:25:06.640 --> 00:25:14.799
third. And Puma Martinez UD over Kazuto Ioka.

00:25:16.240 --> 00:25:20.640
No surprises there. Did you watch this one? No,

00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:23.799
I didn't. I haven't found a way to get on it.

00:25:25.599 --> 00:25:28.839
I parted this shit. And I mean, I bought this

00:25:28.839 --> 00:25:32.660
legally. They suck the money out of my ass. They

00:25:32.660 --> 00:25:40.660
suck the money out of my ass for this. Honestly?

00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:49.559
Closer than the... I think the 113 -114 card

00:25:49.559 --> 00:25:56.460
is the correct one. Really? Razor thin. Well,

00:25:56.480 --> 00:26:01.480
it's like... Again. I'm not going to say that

00:26:01.480 --> 00:26:04.180
Ioka was hard done because in close fights like

00:26:04.180 --> 00:26:07.180
that, it can go either way. Like a fight, like

00:26:07.180 --> 00:26:12.839
nice competitively fought. It really depends

00:26:12.839 --> 00:26:15.240
what you look for in a round and then you shade

00:26:15.240 --> 00:26:18.220
it. That decides who it gets shaded towards.

00:26:18.880 --> 00:26:24.059
But also consider that Ioka is not the most friendly

00:26:24.059 --> 00:26:28.160
with the Japanese commission. He's from Osaka.

00:26:29.900 --> 00:26:32.140
They don't like him. They don't like Osaka people.

00:26:33.359 --> 00:26:39.059
They don't like Yoko much. The commission. Yoko's

00:26:39.059 --> 00:26:42.279
had his beefs with the Japanese commission. So,

00:26:42.319 --> 00:26:45.960
not to say that he got hard done by, because

00:26:45.960 --> 00:26:48.539
no, Fernando Martinez totally won that fight.

00:26:49.160 --> 00:26:52.720
But also, it would make sense if the commission

00:26:52.720 --> 00:26:54.880
put judges that are more friendly to Martinez's

00:26:54.880 --> 00:26:59.789
style. Their styles are pretty similar, aren't

00:26:59.789 --> 00:27:05.109
they? Yeah. Clobbering types. Clobbering types,

00:27:05.390 --> 00:27:07.730
but I guess it's more of a... You know what I

00:27:07.730 --> 00:27:10.589
mean? Judges that would be more sympathetic towards

00:27:10.589 --> 00:27:13.490
Martinez. Yeah, I see what you mean. And how

00:27:13.490 --> 00:27:14.829
he operates. It probably was a good fight, though.

00:27:15.509 --> 00:27:18.150
It was a good fight. Better than the first one,

00:27:18.190 --> 00:27:24.289
actually. Oh, that first one had the 120 card.

00:27:24.799 --> 00:27:28.579
108 cards? How can you make it more clear that

00:27:28.579 --> 00:27:31.839
you just fucking hate the Yoka? That's what I

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:34.119
mean, though. It's not like it's an alien concept

00:27:34.119 --> 00:27:36.579
for Yoka to get fucking jobbed in Japan because

00:27:36.579 --> 00:27:42.539
they don't like him. But that's just explaining

00:27:42.539 --> 00:27:45.200
the disparity in the cards. I'm sure they could

00:27:45.200 --> 00:27:51.039
easily bid 2 -0 a Yoka or 1 -1 a piece in a neutral

00:27:51.039 --> 00:27:55.859
location. Because these are razor -thin fights.

00:27:56.079 --> 00:28:01.019
But it is what it is. Ioka is old. Old as fuck,

00:28:01.140 --> 00:28:04.519
actually, for super flyweight. He's 36, I think.

00:28:05.240 --> 00:28:10.779
Yes. But he can still fight Estrada and stuff.

00:28:10.980 --> 00:28:17.240
There's still guys. Oh, Estrada's aged out as

00:28:17.240 --> 00:28:20.930
well. Estrada's also old. Like, I'm not saying

00:28:20.930 --> 00:28:23.190
Yoka should go fight Bam because, like, come

00:28:23.190 --> 00:28:27.549
on, man. It's not happening. Don't do that. Not

00:28:27.549 --> 00:28:31.549
happening. All right. But Bam versus Toro, though?

00:28:33.009 --> 00:28:35.349
Hell, he can run it back with Kosei Tanaka, too.

00:28:36.109 --> 00:28:39.730
That was a fun fight the first time. Kosei Tanaka,

00:28:39.829 --> 00:28:44.670
I like him. He comes to rumble. Yeah. Like, there's

00:28:44.670 --> 00:28:46.769
still options for Yoka. This doesn't have to

00:28:46.769 --> 00:28:50.529
be the end just because he lost to, like, close

00:28:50.529 --> 00:28:57.130
close decisions um is fighting the uh african

00:28:57.130 --> 00:29:09.069
dude that beat jose tanaka listen man bam bam's

00:29:09.069 --> 00:29:13.220
in a situation where like He's basically beaten

00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:18.180
all the guys at his relative division, but he's

00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.680
also pretty small, so he can only move up so

00:29:20.680 --> 00:29:26.400
much. And then move up? Fight Nakatani? Yeah.

00:29:27.640 --> 00:29:35.299
I rate Nakatani. I love Bam, but Nakatani is...

00:29:35.299 --> 00:29:41.289
Be too big. A demon. He's a demon. I think Bam.

00:29:42.170 --> 00:29:46.869
Honestly. Yeah. I think Bam would win the fight.

00:29:47.849 --> 00:29:50.549
I think it'd be a fun fight. Fun as fuck. But

00:29:50.549 --> 00:29:53.009
also... For sure, for sure. Nakatani is pretty

00:29:53.009 --> 00:30:00.650
huge. And it's not just his size. Like, he definitely...

00:30:00.650 --> 00:30:08.799
Are you insinuating that? I'm going to go over

00:30:08.799 --> 00:30:10.779
here and make a boxing fucking circle. Do you

00:30:10.779 --> 00:30:14.380
regret it? Oh, man. I'm just saying Nakatani

00:30:14.380 --> 00:30:19.420
is not only a big boy for 118. He has definitely

00:30:19.420 --> 00:30:23.259
bigger reach than Bam. It's just the count. If

00:30:23.259 --> 00:30:29.000
he can sneak a counter in, it's so... Bam, Bam.

00:30:30.039 --> 00:30:33.579
I'm not sure Bam can take it. I think he can

00:30:33.579 --> 00:30:36.710
take it. Honestly, he can. A couple, though.

00:30:36.769 --> 00:30:39.009
Only a couple. Yeah, I was about to say, it's

00:30:39.009 --> 00:30:42.250
like... You gotta say that Bam also... Bam could

00:30:42.250 --> 00:30:45.529
also counter a lot, too. Bam is great at countering.

00:30:46.529 --> 00:30:48.930
So... I think it'd be a good fight, but... It

00:30:48.930 --> 00:30:51.269
would be a great... I think it would be... It

00:30:51.269 --> 00:30:54.329
could either go the way of Spence versus Sean

00:30:54.329 --> 00:30:58.450
Porter. Actually, maybe it might just go the

00:30:58.450 --> 00:31:00.990
way of Spence versus Sean Porter, honestly. I

00:31:00.990 --> 00:31:05.089
don't know. Again, still, like, the Nakatani

00:31:05.089 --> 00:31:08.069
moment that sticks out in my head, even as he

00:31:08.069 --> 00:31:11.410
racks up even more knockouts and stoppages, is

00:31:11.410 --> 00:31:14.029
still, like, him fucking, like, killing Andrew

00:31:14.029 --> 00:31:18.690
Maloney. Oh, God, that was a scary -ass knockout.

00:31:19.589 --> 00:31:23.450
Yeah, like, you just, like, he just rolled in

00:31:23.450 --> 00:31:28.730
the entire fight. Wasn't competitive. Last round,

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:32.049
Maloney's going for it. As best as he can, he's

00:31:32.049 --> 00:31:35.150
ragged, and Nakatani just calmly steps back and

00:31:35.150 --> 00:31:40.170
puts him out the pasture. I swear, this guy couldn't

00:31:40.170 --> 00:31:42.890
even breathe. Didn't even breathe for a couple

00:31:42.890 --> 00:31:46.289
seconds after getting caught like that. I thought

00:31:46.289 --> 00:31:50.529
he was seriously hurt. Yeah, no, like... It's

00:31:50.529 --> 00:31:52.789
not just... Okay, yeah, go ahead. Oh, I was just

00:31:52.789 --> 00:31:54.910
gonna say that Puma should probably look at whoever

00:31:54.910 --> 00:32:01.640
the IBF champ is, because Bam is unifying. titles

00:32:01.640 --> 00:32:06.660
i'm yeah kafu is fun but like you're not on bam's

00:32:06.660 --> 00:32:09.259
level and we're gonna see oh yeah we're gonna

00:32:09.259 --> 00:32:11.500
see like there's levels to this it's gonna be

00:32:11.500 --> 00:32:14.779
one of those situations well i mean you never

00:32:14.779 --> 00:32:16.980
know bam's special we've known bam was special

00:32:16.980 --> 00:32:20.720
since uh he came in on short notice against quadris

00:32:20.720 --> 00:32:26.869
and just obliterated him yeah like Not just like

00:32:26.869 --> 00:32:30.150
Merc them in like, this is a young guy at the

00:32:30.150 --> 00:32:34.289
age, at the division. It's like, holy shit, he's

00:32:34.289 --> 00:32:40.029
sick. He's sick as fuck. Killed him. Killed the

00:32:40.029 --> 00:32:44.210
queen right there. Same with, what's his name?

00:32:47.670 --> 00:32:53.720
Rungusai. Yeah. I just pulled up the Nakatani

00:32:53.720 --> 00:32:56.079
knockout and oh my god, bro, he's twitching on

00:32:56.079 --> 00:32:59.900
the ground for a good couple seconds after that.

00:33:03.740 --> 00:33:06.339
Bleeding out his mouth. Bleeding from his nose.

00:33:07.559 --> 00:33:13.900
And his eyes. That was fucking scary, man. Scary,

00:33:13.940 --> 00:33:16.660
yeah. And it was calm, too. It's not even like

00:33:16.660 --> 00:33:19.319
Nakatani rushed it or anything. Just a perfect

00:33:19.319 --> 00:33:26.240
shot. Oh, my God. Anyways, let's go to the...

00:33:26.240 --> 00:33:27.859
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Friday, fucking May 23rd. It's a... Buckle up,

00:36:40.579 --> 00:36:43.480
Buttercups. This shit is not... These guys are

00:36:43.480 --> 00:36:48.179
still fighting? Maxie Hughes versus Archie Sharp.

00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:53.460
This is GBM Sports. It's gonna be on DAZN. It's

00:36:53.460 --> 00:36:55.760
like when you auto -generate a character. Archie

00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.659
Sharp's like when you auto -generate a guy in

00:36:57.659 --> 00:37:01.739
2K, but it's a boxer. Fight Night. British boxer.

00:37:02.219 --> 00:37:05.519
Fight Night champion, like, you just pick British

00:37:05.519 --> 00:37:11.960
boxer. Lightweight. I know Maxie Hughes is still

00:37:11.960 --> 00:37:21.219
fighting. How old is he? 35. 35? Old enough to

00:37:21.219 --> 00:37:25.559
still be fighting, apparently. Yeah. Young enough,

00:37:25.679 --> 00:37:33.630
rather. Fuck. He's still around. No, I guess

00:37:33.630 --> 00:37:37.949
it wasn't. Yeah. Go ahead. Terry Harper versus

00:37:37.949 --> 00:37:42.110
Natalie Zimmerman. WBO lightweight title on the

00:37:42.110 --> 00:37:47.090
line. And Ticey... Is this like a female version

00:37:47.090 --> 00:37:50.289
of Tyson? Ticey Gallagher versus Ebony Jones.

00:37:50.469 --> 00:37:57.769
I think that's an IBF trinket. I check. No, British

00:37:57.769 --> 00:38:07.880
title. Okay, it's British. I mean, good for Terry

00:38:07.880 --> 00:38:15.539
Harper for still fighting. How old is she? 28,

00:38:15.719 --> 00:38:19.019
but the thing, like, consider, remember her story

00:38:19.019 --> 00:38:22.579
was that she was working at Tesco, and then her

00:38:22.579 --> 00:38:26.019
coach is like, we really need, like, a female

00:38:26.019 --> 00:38:30.369
boxer. We need somebody to step up. Yeah, we

00:38:30.369 --> 00:38:32.449
need someone to step up. Like, come back. Come

00:38:32.449 --> 00:38:35.489
back to boxing. And then, like, good for her.

00:38:35.969 --> 00:38:38.969
She's still around. Especially after that, like,

00:38:38.989 --> 00:38:44.309
year she took off after Baumgartner had her looking

00:38:44.309 --> 00:38:49.650
into the stars. Oh, you said Baumgartner, not...

00:38:49.650 --> 00:38:53.349
Baumgartner. Yeah. No, that Baumgartner one was...

00:38:53.349 --> 00:38:57.989
Stoppage. Big time. Good stoppage from the referee,

00:38:58.190 --> 00:39:05.059
actually. She's still kicking. Good for her.

00:39:07.219 --> 00:39:09.500
Have any of you guys seen Zimmerman? Is she any

00:39:09.500 --> 00:39:15.159
good? I have not. I have not either. She hasn't

00:39:15.159 --> 00:39:18.599
had an opponent with a winning record yet. Wait

00:39:18.599 --> 00:39:23.719
a second. I have mentioned Zimmerman before.

00:39:25.900 --> 00:39:32.969
It was a title fight. that she was on yeah the

00:39:32.969 --> 00:39:36.170
adina kiss one yeah i'm looking on a box right

00:39:36.170 --> 00:39:42.469
here okay okay but i've never seen her fight

00:39:42.469 --> 00:39:47.610
i just know no she's uh this is this is a friday

00:39:47.610 --> 00:39:53.090
british card through and through uh usually american

00:39:53.090 --> 00:39:59.119
uh friday cards are pretty okay They're enjoyable,

00:39:59.239 --> 00:40:03.260
but this is fucking rough. This is some rough

00:40:03.260 --> 00:40:05.980
shit, man. It's because all the guys that used

00:40:05.980 --> 00:40:08.940
to be the default, like Eddie Hearn puts them

00:40:08.940 --> 00:40:11.260
on a card that keep them exciting are all retired.

00:40:12.420 --> 00:40:16.739
Terry Flanagan. Gone is like Ted Cheeseman, bro.

00:40:17.260 --> 00:40:19.880
Or this would be a Dave Allen card. This is the

00:40:19.880 --> 00:40:21.820
card that they put Dave Allen on to sell pay

00:40:21.820 --> 00:40:25.150
-per -views in 2016. Back when they were still

00:40:25.150 --> 00:40:27.409
on Sky Sports, they go like, yeah, David Allen's

00:40:27.409 --> 00:40:31.250
fighting some Bulgarian guy who just clocked

00:40:31.250 --> 00:40:35.269
out of a construction job. It's the greatest

00:40:35.269 --> 00:40:40.630
fight part of the year. And then Dave Allen struggles

00:40:40.630 --> 00:40:46.130
to beat him. Really competitive, this one. Yeah,

00:40:46.150 --> 00:40:49.550
then Dave Allen's like, fuck, I'm too fat. Fuck,

00:40:49.909 --> 00:40:52.010
I'm too fat. I need to train more. And then he

00:40:52.010 --> 00:40:56.480
never trains more. I remember one time hearing

00:40:56.480 --> 00:40:58.139
that Eddie Heard actually said that he thought

00:40:58.139 --> 00:41:01.119
Usyk vs. Fury was going to be horrible before

00:41:01.119 --> 00:41:04.239
it actually happened. But in all the promos,

00:41:04.260 --> 00:41:06.260
he was like, oh, this is a monumental fight waiting

00:41:06.260 --> 00:41:09.320
to happen for 25 years. Great fight, great fight.

00:41:09.780 --> 00:41:12.119
That's going to happen tonight. He literally

00:41:12.119 --> 00:41:14.360
admitted that he thought Usyk vs. Fury was going

00:41:14.360 --> 00:41:16.960
to be bad. It's crazy, huh? We had a famous Eddie

00:41:16.960 --> 00:41:19.579
Heard quote being that Dave Allen was only two

00:41:19.579 --> 00:41:24.500
fights away from AJ. Dave Allen is only two fights

00:41:24.500 --> 00:41:27.980
away from AJ. He's only two fights away from

00:41:27.980 --> 00:41:30.480
AJ right now, technically. AJ just needs two

00:41:30.480 --> 00:41:33.719
more losses and then it'll be worth it. Maybe

00:41:33.719 --> 00:41:36.139
one more fight. Dave Allen wins and AJ loses

00:41:36.139 --> 00:41:39.900
again. Yeah, maybe. We're almost there. We're

00:41:39.900 --> 00:41:43.519
back to the two fight. Yeah, we're back in that

00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:50.210
state. AJ's fallen that far. You know what? I

00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:55.010
kind of like him. He's like my dirty little secret.

00:41:55.869 --> 00:42:02.750
I like making fun of him. I don't hate him. I

00:42:02.750 --> 00:42:04.769
think he's the only promoter that actually sells

00:42:04.769 --> 00:42:09.150
fighters now. You know what I mean? Like properly.

00:42:10.130 --> 00:42:15.630
I mean... He's the face of Matchroom. You see

00:42:15.630 --> 00:42:17.360
him in all the interviews and such. You know

00:42:17.360 --> 00:42:18.400
what I mean? I don't think that's a good thing,

00:42:18.460 --> 00:42:20.780
though, because then, like, you're not as invested.

00:42:20.860 --> 00:42:22.519
You're not building the fighters. You're just

00:42:22.519 --> 00:42:26.699
building your brand. Well, I think, I mean, he's

00:42:26.699 --> 00:42:28.820
kind of got some good fighters. You know what

00:42:28.820 --> 00:42:32.300
I mean? The promotion isn't very good. Like,

00:42:32.340 --> 00:42:34.219
the way that we have talked about it before is,

00:42:34.260 --> 00:42:37.639
like, this guy is really good. Oh, yeah, of course.

00:42:37.940 --> 00:42:39.280
I just mean, like, you just know he's amazing.

00:42:40.710 --> 00:42:44.769
I understand he's a good way to be the face of

00:42:44.769 --> 00:42:46.750
your promotion, but the thing is that promoting

00:42:46.750 --> 00:42:49.210
the fights themselves is a separate issue. Like,

00:42:49.210 --> 00:42:51.909
again, PBC always nails it with the storytelling.

00:42:53.510 --> 00:42:55.610
Yeah, but imagine if Al Heyman was like the face.

00:42:56.730 --> 00:43:01.050
It wouldn't be the same. I know. So we care about

00:43:01.050 --> 00:43:03.309
the fighters and their stories. We don't care

00:43:03.309 --> 00:43:05.230
about Al Heyman and whatever the fuck he's up

00:43:05.230 --> 00:43:08.550
to. Well, I mean, like Bob Arum and fucking Don

00:43:08.550 --> 00:43:10.070
King did it back in the day, you know what I

00:43:10.070 --> 00:43:13.309
mean? Yeah, but even Arum always took a backseat

00:43:13.309 --> 00:43:15.909
to, like, when he had, like, his real stars.

00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:20.730
Like, Bob Arum would always take a bit of a backseat.

00:43:20.769 --> 00:43:24.030
Like, he never made himself the face of an Ali

00:43:24.030 --> 00:43:29.090
promotion. Don King, though? Don King always

00:43:29.090 --> 00:43:31.969
did, but that's because he was the one keeping

00:43:31.969 --> 00:43:36.090
most of the money. Don King was like the turkey.

00:43:37.409 --> 00:43:41.099
Yeah, fuck. Except good. Well, not good. Good.

00:43:41.460 --> 00:43:43.880
Yeah, good. That's... Wait, wait, wait. Good's

00:43:43.880 --> 00:43:46.139
a tough one, bro. Like, you gotta ask Tim Witherspoon

00:43:46.139 --> 00:43:47.800
if he's good. He's horrible. No, he's horrible.

00:43:47.920 --> 00:43:49.440
He's horrible. I mean, like, he put on some great

00:43:49.440 --> 00:43:50.860
fights, though. He put on great fights. Yeah.

00:43:51.079 --> 00:43:52.760
That's all I meant. Oh, he's a horrible person.

00:43:53.119 --> 00:43:56.559
Fuck, dog. No. Okay, you know what? Oh, my God.

00:43:56.760 --> 00:43:58.880
Bro, the people... I'm getting... I'm getting

00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:02.949
canceled from boxing, bro. It's... I like Eddie

00:44:02.949 --> 00:44:07.590
Hearn and Don King is good. Those are some doozies

00:44:07.590 --> 00:44:10.730
right there. Oh, my God. This is my retirement

00:44:10.730 --> 00:44:12.429
podcast, bro. This is my retirement podcast.

00:44:12.670 --> 00:44:16.670
We're now hiring. It's actually, oh, God, I didn't

00:44:16.670 --> 00:44:18.130
mean like that, though. Y 'all know I didn't

00:44:18.130 --> 00:44:20.849
mean like that. Come on. Y 'all know I did not

00:44:20.849 --> 00:44:24.280
mean like that. Oh, my God. Can you please tell

00:44:24.280 --> 00:44:25.559
me that you guys know I didn't mean like that?

00:44:27.000 --> 00:44:29.480
Well, I mean, listen, man. Listen, man. When

00:44:29.480 --> 00:44:32.199
I listen to this podcast back when it comes out,

00:44:32.340 --> 00:44:36.880
I'll tell you what it sounded like. Ah, shit.

00:44:37.460 --> 00:44:39.840
I'll call in being like, what the fuck is this

00:44:39.840 --> 00:44:43.940
Alex guy still doing on the show? I'm good. I

00:44:43.940 --> 00:44:48.659
am good. Oh, you want to tell me I'm wrong? Because

00:44:48.659 --> 00:44:50.440
I know I'm wrong, but you can tell me I'm wrong.

00:44:50.579 --> 00:44:53.380
I'm not. No, I don't need to say Don King is

00:44:53.380 --> 00:44:56.199
bad. That's like... Wait, wait. You know what?

00:44:56.239 --> 00:44:57.760
That was just a play to get people to call, though.

00:44:57.820 --> 00:44:59.519
That was just a play to get people to call. 833

00:44:59.519 --> 00:45:08.739
Lux Pods. I am not... Ah, shit. Okay. Oh, God.

00:45:09.260 --> 00:45:11.579
I feel like Teal right now, except I regret it.

00:45:12.320 --> 00:45:15.659
You're right. I have remorse. I have remorse.

00:45:16.280 --> 00:45:18.940
I was just like, Teal, but... You know what I

00:45:18.940 --> 00:45:23.699
forgot last week? What? We had a message. Oh,

00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:27.940
play the message now. I can't play it into Teams.

00:45:29.400 --> 00:45:33.380
You can read it. Yeah, it says, hi, this is Matt.

00:45:33.579 --> 00:45:37.940
Like, first time, long time kind of thing. I

00:45:37.940 --> 00:45:42.659
wanted to talk about Canelo, about the Canelo

00:45:42.659 --> 00:45:45.739
versus, oh, this is a bad transcription. It says

00:45:45.739 --> 00:45:49.360
Canelo versus the girl fight. That would have

00:45:49.360 --> 00:45:51.699
been more fun than Canelo's skull. Yeah, and

00:45:51.699 --> 00:45:56.139
how boring it was. I expected better from what

00:45:56.139 --> 00:46:00.980
is supposed to be the face of the sport. I don't

00:46:00.980 --> 00:46:07.159
know. Let me... This transcription fucking sucks.

00:46:10.920 --> 00:46:13.420
I don't know what gave him the idea it's okay

00:46:13.420 --> 00:46:15.440
to go the distance with someone like that. That's

00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:20.519
not on his level, but... I'm not pleased. It's

00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.980
fucking disgusting, is the word. Whatever they

00:46:23.980 --> 00:46:27.480
said, they're very correct. Yeah. They're very

00:46:27.480 --> 00:46:32.820
correct. Very valid. Thanks, Matt. That was very

00:46:32.820 --> 00:46:36.460
nice of you. We love you, Matt. ProBuck's good.

00:46:37.920 --> 00:46:40.940
ProBuck's good, Matt. Matt good, ProBuck's good.

00:46:41.019 --> 00:46:45.360
Hell yeah. Please call in again to yell at Alex.

00:46:46.780 --> 00:46:51.949
Don King is... Not great. No, I know Don King.

00:46:51.949 --> 00:46:56.030
That was a slip -up, bro. You said Don King was

00:46:56.030 --> 00:47:00.130
good, bro. It'll be in the podcast. Oh, my God.

00:47:00.710 --> 00:47:04.690
You said it. I'm done. It's over. It's over.

00:47:04.809 --> 00:47:06.889
Oh, my God. We're getting canceled. We're getting

00:47:06.889 --> 00:47:12.849
canceled now. God, speaking of getting canceled,

00:47:12.889 --> 00:47:19.500
Josh Taylor is here in the next event. We skipped

00:47:19.500 --> 00:47:23.280
Angelo Leo. Yeah, Angelo Leo is fighting Tomoki

00:47:23.280 --> 00:47:25.860
Kameda, IBF featherweight title on the line.

00:47:27.019 --> 00:47:29.119
I don't really know who these other people are.

00:47:29.280 --> 00:47:32.440
The IBF minimum weight title will be on the line

00:47:32.440 --> 00:47:36.280
in the, I think, the co -main. Honestly, this

00:47:36.280 --> 00:47:41.199
looks a lot like a top -ranked card. Where's

00:47:41.199 --> 00:47:45.639
he be held at, Angelo Leo? Osaka. Osaka, Japan.

00:47:47.769 --> 00:47:51.610
Interesting fight. Now he's fighting El Mexicanito.

00:47:53.150 --> 00:47:59.429
Moki Kaneda. Yeah, his Spanish is actually pretty

00:47:59.429 --> 00:48:05.289
damn good. Yeah, good for him, man. I think he

00:48:05.289 --> 00:48:08.929
and his brothers live, or at least train, in

00:48:08.929 --> 00:48:15.679
Mexico. Yeah. Listen, man, it's not a bad tariff.

00:48:15.719 --> 00:48:18.320
These Japan cards are always more fun than they

00:48:18.320 --> 00:48:22.380
look on paper. Yeah, better than that Friday

00:48:22.380 --> 00:48:26.300
shit Maxie Hughes is headlining. Yeah, like,

00:48:26.340 --> 00:48:30.820
why the fuck isn't this on... Why can't they

00:48:30.820 --> 00:48:34.380
suck the money out of my ass for this one? Dude,

00:48:34.539 --> 00:48:37.420
you know what? It's so stupid how the Japanese

00:48:37.420 --> 00:48:41.380
streaming services work. Like, you can't... You

00:48:41.380 --> 00:48:44.500
have to have a Japanese IP. No, but it's not

00:48:44.500 --> 00:48:48.960
even, like, just sell the rights, man. Yeah,

00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:51.980
to somebody. Just sell the rights. Like, Probox

00:48:51.980 --> 00:48:53.920
would probably pick that shit up and fill their

00:48:53.920 --> 00:48:57.360
schedule. It's a title fight. It's two title

00:48:57.360 --> 00:49:01.780
fights. ESPN would love to have it. Yeah, like,

00:49:01.820 --> 00:49:04.019
Top Rank doesn't have to put Emmanuel Navarrete

00:49:04.019 --> 00:49:09.000
on shit anymore if you have this. So you can't

00:49:09.000 --> 00:49:12.440
sign up if you don't have a Japanese IP. you

00:49:12.440 --> 00:49:14.559
sign up you try to sign up you need to have a

00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:17.019
japanese phone number there's a website that

00:49:17.019 --> 00:49:18.860
gives you like a temporary number that you could

00:49:18.860 --> 00:49:23.139
do for like the text registration then you have

00:49:23.139 --> 00:49:25.800
to have a japanese bank account or because like

00:49:25.800 --> 00:49:28.800
you're my i tried to put my card information

00:49:28.800 --> 00:49:30.860
in there it says like yeah we only accept japanese

00:49:30.860 --> 00:49:33.460
banks yeah you're married your filthy american

00:49:33.460 --> 00:49:36.960
dollar is not welcome for our product no fucking

00:49:36.960 --> 00:49:40.679
kidding man i can't watch this shit I can't pay

00:49:40.679 --> 00:49:44.219
you. I want to... I want... I am presenting my

00:49:44.219 --> 00:49:48.760
ass to have the money sucked out. Like, come

00:49:48.760 --> 00:49:53.079
on, bro. What? We're stuck watching fucking Maxie

00:49:53.079 --> 00:49:59.420
Hughes. I want to watch Tomoki Kameda and Angelo

00:49:59.420 --> 00:50:02.679
Leo. Even if the fight sucked, the venue was

00:50:02.679 --> 00:50:06.599
pretty enough to, like, at least, like, hey,

00:50:06.619 --> 00:50:10.309
it's a fun venue to look at. But the fights don't

00:50:10.309 --> 00:50:16.710
suck. So, like, come on. Instead, on the same

00:50:16.710 --> 00:50:19.010
day, we're watching the ghost of Josh Taylor

00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:22.130
and a bunch of fucking... There's one good fight

00:50:22.130 --> 00:50:26.989
on this damn card. Hey, Tom. Yeah, Tom was fighting

00:50:26.989 --> 00:50:31.909
someone like Balrog or something, bro. Balogun?

00:50:33.010 --> 00:50:37.289
Balogun. He lost to Gassiev in, like, two years

00:50:37.289 --> 00:50:41.440
ago. I don't know. At least Atom was fighting.

00:50:42.079 --> 00:50:44.139
That's the exciting part. I don't care about

00:50:44.139 --> 00:50:49.380
the rest of this card. Josh Taylor's old. Josh

00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:52.800
Taylor is old and he's still at 140 for some

00:50:52.800 --> 00:50:56.079
reason. I thought this was at 147. No, no, it's

00:50:56.079 --> 00:51:01.260
at 147. He finally moved up. Yeah. But, like,

00:51:01.320 --> 00:51:07.000
really? He's only 34. Yeah, but he's an old 34.

00:51:11.050 --> 00:51:15.409
He's an old, old 34. Because it's not like, again,

00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:17.670
it's not his defense that ever carried him in

00:51:17.670 --> 00:51:21.349
these fights. It was always his heart and general

00:51:21.349 --> 00:51:28.010
ranginess. Discipline. Remember how pro -grade

00:51:28.010 --> 00:51:36.909
made his eye look? No. The picture of him holding

00:51:36.909 --> 00:51:40.210
the Ali trophy where the bruise over his eye

00:51:40.210 --> 00:51:43.250
is like, the fucking boy like a like a mump or

00:51:43.250 --> 00:51:48.030
a boil over his face like in the cartoons yeah

00:51:48.030 --> 00:51:52.550
literally that's i mean like he's never been

00:51:52.550 --> 00:51:54.989
uh and he's taken a good amount of punishment

00:51:54.989 --> 00:52:01.750
in his last three three fights because like jack

00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:04.550
kettle beat him the first time and they robbed

00:52:04.550 --> 00:52:08.000
them Teofimo Lopez put belt to ass, and then

00:52:08.000 --> 00:52:10.619
Jack Catterall also put belt to ass and fouled

00:52:10.619 --> 00:52:12.760
him a bunch. Like, he's got a lot of miles on

00:52:12.760 --> 00:52:16.579
the clock. I will never bring another fighter

00:52:16.579 --> 00:52:22.940
to Britain. Oh, my God. Look at his eye. He doesn't

00:52:22.940 --> 00:52:25.739
even have one. Yeah, like, that's what I mean.

00:52:25.780 --> 00:52:29.079
He's got miles on the clock, and he probably

00:52:29.079 --> 00:52:39.039
spent too long at 140. So, make what you will.

00:52:39.179 --> 00:52:42.119
He's probably still going to beat this guy. Ekau

00:52:42.119 --> 00:52:46.599
Esuman. Ekau Esuman, yeah. But, like, it's not

00:52:46.599 --> 00:52:49.179
going to be pretty because Josh Taylor's a bit

00:52:49.179 --> 00:52:56.019
of a mauling, fouling fighter. But, I mean, he'll

00:52:56.019 --> 00:53:01.960
get some WBO trinket to stay in the mix. So,

00:53:02.039 --> 00:53:09.780
there's that. Do we care that much about Nathaniel

00:53:09.780 --> 00:53:14.019
Collins and Lee McGregor? Fuck no. Not really.

00:53:18.179 --> 00:53:22.320
They're both Brit -level guys who will win or

00:53:22.320 --> 00:53:27.659
lose, still stay around Brit -level. They're

00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:32.079
not going to beat Nick Ball, but they can probably

00:53:32.079 --> 00:53:34.599
wait for Nick Ball to lose and pick up the trinkets

00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:39.000
that he drops from that. Pick up the loot? Yeah,

00:53:39.039 --> 00:53:44.420
basically. Man. Someone has to fill the rankings.

00:53:44.500 --> 00:53:47.760
Someone has to fill the rankings in. Like Britain's

00:53:47.760 --> 00:53:55.320
Rocha and Korea. Yeah, if there's some British

00:53:55.320 --> 00:54:00.539
listener or Irish, Scottish, whatever. United

00:54:00.539 --> 00:54:05.840
Kingdom listener. British Isles. Why should I

00:54:05.840 --> 00:54:09.530
care? It's about Nathaniel Collins and or Lee

00:54:09.530 --> 00:54:16.769
McGregor. Also, tell us why Don King is bad.

00:54:18.949 --> 00:54:23.949
He is bad, by the way. He's very bad. That's

00:54:23.949 --> 00:54:28.989
a backtrack from... Look, the woke left has forced

00:54:28.989 --> 00:54:33.070
him to admit that Don King is bad. I always thought

00:54:33.070 --> 00:54:34.789
that. I just thought he put on good fights. You

00:54:34.789 --> 00:54:39.449
can't deny that, dude. Yeah, I know. The way

00:54:39.449 --> 00:54:43.969
it came out was just really funny. That's definitely

00:54:43.969 --> 00:54:45.489
not going to be on Patreon. That's definitely

00:54:45.489 --> 00:54:47.630
going to go to the main. That's going to the

00:54:47.630 --> 00:54:53.469
main. You know the one where he's like, you need

00:54:53.469 --> 00:54:57.510
to leave. Like TikTok audio. That's going to

00:54:57.510 --> 00:55:01.019
go viral. Yeah, that's the clip you put on social

00:55:01.019 --> 00:55:06.500
media. I'm getting clipped right there. Bro,

00:55:06.579 --> 00:55:08.780
like, Don King has a fucking Wikipedia article

00:55:08.780 --> 00:55:12.639
about lawsuits and prosecutions. Has his own

00:55:12.639 --> 00:55:18.340
lawsuits page? Yeah, on Wikipedia. All lawsuits

00:55:18.340 --> 00:55:23.250
and prosecutions. Yeah. He got investigated for

00:55:23.250 --> 00:55:28.929
being connected to John Gotti. The IRS stole

00:55:28.929 --> 00:55:32.809
$32 ,000 from his house because he didn't fucking

00:55:32.809 --> 00:55:36.070
pay it. Wait, wait, okay, okay, okay. You guys,

00:55:36.110 --> 00:55:40.710
like, flew me with it, right? Yeah. You're just

00:55:40.710 --> 00:55:43.309
moving the goalposts, man. Don King stomped the

00:55:43.309 --> 00:55:45.610
guy to death over $600, bro. He beat his wife.

00:55:48.269 --> 00:55:50.150
Mayweather beat his wife. Don King stomped the

00:55:50.150 --> 00:55:53.670
guy to death, bro. You guys are getting paid

00:55:53.670 --> 00:55:58.809
by Mayweather, dog. I wish. He beat his wife,

00:55:58.849 --> 00:56:00.150
and you guys have not mentioned that. That got

00:56:00.150 --> 00:56:03.650
cut from one of the podcast ones. Nah, man, because

00:56:03.650 --> 00:56:08.550
it's not relevant. I'm not saying Floyd Mayweather

00:56:08.550 --> 00:56:11.889
is the paragon of morality here. I'm definitely

00:56:11.889 --> 00:56:14.969
not moving the goalpost. This is moving the goalpost.

00:56:15.349 --> 00:56:18.409
I'm definitely not moving the goalpost. You guys

00:56:18.409 --> 00:56:19.909
are just getting paid off by big Mayweather promotions.

00:56:20.849 --> 00:56:23.670
Nah, bro. Like, here's Wikipedia, bro. The Mayweather

00:56:23.670 --> 00:56:30.170
Industrial Complex. Yeah. In 1967, King was convicted

00:56:30.170 --> 00:56:32.989
of voluntary manslaughter for stomping one of

00:56:32.989 --> 00:56:35.690
his employees to death because he owed him $600.

00:56:36.090 --> 00:56:38.409
Yeah, Don King's horrible. I know, Don King's

00:56:38.409 --> 00:56:41.610
horrible, bro. I know, I know. I'm about to go

00:56:41.610 --> 00:56:44.389
to, like, the Fox News of Boxing podcast. Yeah.

00:56:44.789 --> 00:56:48.170
We're moving this podcast to Rumble. I'm not

00:56:48.170 --> 00:56:52.010
going to shoot a bullet at another fucking podcast.

00:56:52.070 --> 00:56:53.449
I'm going to keep my mouth shut. I'm going to

00:56:53.449 --> 00:57:01.429
shut the fuck up. You know what? At least we

00:57:01.429 --> 00:57:02.949
filled it. We didn't need to break in any of

00:57:02.949 --> 00:57:05.789
the filler with that. No. Didn't need to break

00:57:05.789 --> 00:57:08.130
glass on this one. We'll probably have to break

00:57:08.130 --> 00:57:09.909
it in a couple weeks with this. We'll have to

00:57:09.909 --> 00:57:12.170
talk about the previews of this. The recaps of

00:57:12.170 --> 00:57:19.079
these weekends. Yeah. I'm sorry for the listeners

00:57:19.079 --> 00:57:22.000
who had to listen to this. I'm going to talk

00:57:22.000 --> 00:57:26.699
about the NBA playoffs if it's that bleak. I

00:57:26.699 --> 00:57:31.000
usually have that up top, like if it's something

00:57:31.000 --> 00:57:33.679
I recognize, if it's a team I know or a team

00:57:33.679 --> 00:57:36.579
I kind of sort of care about. NBA draft is rigged,

00:57:36.579 --> 00:57:39.559
by the way. They gave Dallas the fucking first

00:57:39.559 --> 00:57:45.900
pick. What? The draft lottery was today. The

00:57:45.900 --> 00:57:49.719
Dallas Mavericks have the number one pick. Didn't

00:57:49.719 --> 00:57:53.539
they just get that really good Serbian guy? No,

00:57:53.559 --> 00:57:56.400
they traded him away. They lost the Serbian guy,

00:57:56.440 --> 00:57:59.360
that's right. For nothing. They traded him for

00:57:59.360 --> 00:58:03.780
the ghost of Anthony Davis and a pack of peanuts.

00:58:06.599 --> 00:58:09.219
And then they got rewarded with Cooper flags,

00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:15.559
so they got another generational guy. Horrible,

00:58:15.559 --> 00:58:21.920
horrible stuff. But anyways, is that all? That

00:58:21.920 --> 00:58:26.239
is. That is all the boxing. Yeah, let me make

00:58:26.239 --> 00:58:32.039
one of these. You've been listening to The Boxing

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Noises. Parting words. Yeah. No, that's where

00:59:42.550 --> 00:59:45.769
like the be sure to leave a rating and review

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and follow the social media. Blah, blah, blah.

00:59:49.230 --> 00:59:55.429
All that stuff. Yeah. But parting words. We're

00:59:55.429 --> 00:59:59.710
heading into Bleak Week. Bleak Weekend. Bleak

00:59:59.710 --> 01:00:07.989
End. Ah, good one. Bleak End. I'm getting cancelled.

01:00:09.400 --> 01:00:13.059
Oh, yeah. I'm going to get replaced by, like,

01:00:13.059 --> 01:00:18.099
Isaac again. Let's get Isaac back on the podcast,

01:00:18.219 --> 01:00:21.780
dog. Nah, we got to bring... We got to get Angelo

01:00:21.780 --> 01:00:26.039
in. Angelo. Let's see if we can drag him out.

01:00:27.739 --> 01:00:30.360
I don't know what that guy is. Let's see if we

01:00:30.360 --> 01:00:34.659
can drag Angelo out. He wouldn't come on here.

01:00:35.659 --> 01:00:39.719
He wouldn't? Damn. You gotta pay him for that.

01:00:40.840 --> 01:00:45.719
Uh, Noir on the Discord. Wait, what's his name?

01:00:46.500 --> 01:00:51.139
Noir. Have you seriously not talked to him, bro?

01:00:52.179 --> 01:00:58.059
Noir? Yeah, he's like, he's not the owner of

01:00:58.059 --> 01:01:02.460
the Discord, but he's not. Well, no, because

01:01:02.460 --> 01:01:04.280
I know he has the other one, the Sunday Punchers.

01:01:05.079 --> 01:01:11.570
Yeah. He doesn't even do that one. What do you

01:01:11.570 --> 01:01:13.909
mean? He's still on. I thought he was still on

01:01:13.909 --> 01:01:20.070
it. He only posted to Patreon, which I do not

01:01:20.070 --> 01:01:22.050
pay for. I add myself to the Patreon channel,

01:01:22.210 --> 01:01:27.349
but I don't pay for it. Listen, he's tried to

01:01:27.349 --> 01:01:29.610
kick me out of the Patreon channel repeatedly.

01:01:30.010 --> 01:01:35.590
It's not happening. Wait, so wait. Why do you

01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:39.349
want him back, Josh? Why do you want him on here?

01:01:41.869 --> 01:01:44.989
I don't know, because he doesn't think Don King

01:01:44.989 --> 01:01:54.730
is good. Awkward. I don't know, man. I don't

01:01:54.730 --> 01:01:58.510
know, man. I was just thinking of potential replacements

01:01:58.510 --> 01:02:02.070
for when the woke mob cancels you, Alex. Yeah,

01:02:02.090 --> 01:02:06.190
the woke boxing mob. The woke boxing mob. Bring

01:02:06.190 --> 01:02:10.769
RGF back, too. First day... First they came for

01:02:10.769 --> 01:02:14.690
Teofimo and I said nothing because he's a fucking

01:02:14.690 --> 01:02:20.070
racist. And then they came for Alex and I also

01:02:20.070 --> 01:02:22.969
said nothing because I disagree with... I disagree

01:02:22.969 --> 01:02:26.590
with Dodd King being good. You know what? No,

01:02:26.630 --> 01:02:28.050
I didn't mean it like that, though. I did not

01:02:28.050 --> 01:02:29.889
mean it like that. You know what? I know. You

01:02:29.889 --> 01:02:31.690
know what? You know what? This is the only good

01:02:31.690 --> 01:02:33.110
thing about it because Devin Haney is going to

01:02:33.110 --> 01:02:37.030
do some stupid bullshit again. Devin Haney and

01:02:37.030 --> 01:02:38.190
Ryan Garcia is going to do some bullshit and

01:02:38.190 --> 01:02:39.630
it's going to... No one's going to know about

01:02:39.630 --> 01:02:42.610
this. God, imagine the era. Imagine the era where

01:02:42.610 --> 01:02:46.250
instead of getting paid too much, Don King would

01:02:46.250 --> 01:02:50.690
have been robbing those guys. Yeah. Honestly,

01:02:50.829 --> 01:02:53.869
I would love Don King to rob Demi Haney. Yeah.

01:02:53.889 --> 01:02:55.050
It would have been the only thing he would do.

01:02:55.889 --> 01:03:01.550
Parting words, Provox good, Ryan good. Eat more

01:03:01.550 --> 01:03:09.880
ramen. That's true. Put the ramen ad right in

01:03:09.880 --> 01:03:14.880
the middle of the closing words. If that's all

01:03:14.880 --> 01:03:18.599
we got, then that's it for this edition of the

01:03:18.599 --> 01:03:21.360
Boxing B -Sides. B -Sides.
