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The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.

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The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B

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-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.

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Oh shit, the Boxing B -Sides are back. Josh,

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Alex, how are you guys doing? The hood. The hood.

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Everything's all good. Let's get into the boxing

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right away. Let's skip a little bit of the preamble.

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Into the reviews for this block. It's April 27th

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up to May 4th. The Guillermo Rigondout card did

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not happen, unfortunately. At least not that

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I've been able to find. Gatsby did not fight

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him. Yep. But what are you going to do? We missed

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out on a banger. Hey, it's now scheduled for

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July 11th. Oh, is it? You feel like a box wreck.

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Against TBA? TBA as well. Well, that's quite

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some time to find a suitable opponent. It's almost

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two months. Oh, yeah. You want to choose Joe

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to main? Yeah. Moving to Friday, May 2nd, in

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Times Square, Fatal Fury, City of the Wolves.

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Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fatal Fury. More like Fatal

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fucking dumb stupid fucking boxing weekend. Fatal

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because a guy got stabbed near the ring? That's

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the only action that happened all night. Yeah.

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Actually, you know what? But we'll get into it

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once we go up the card. I have one performance.

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I have one person I have to give props to. Oh,

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yeah. Oh, I already know what you're talking

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about. But I go pro box. We already know what

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we're talking about because we go pro box. It's

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Reito Tsutsumi, isn't it? The only fucking exciting

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fight on the entire bill. I didn't watch the

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FDNY versus NYPD. That might have more action.

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all the fights. Oh, my God. Hey, no, no, no.

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We got one. We got a guy. We still got one. We

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got one. One fight to save boxing. Yeah. Yeah,

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we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Was it

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the first one? Teofimo versus Arnold Barbosa?

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That was a pretty good one. I liked that. That

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was the only performance I'll give any credit

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to on the card. Because it's not like Barbosa

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laid down. Lopez just actually showed up. Yeah,

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that was what we were talking about. We were

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talking about him potentially not showing up

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and that being the problem. No, he did. I think

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he's... He still lost a touch, but this is as

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good as he's going to be without a trainer. I

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think the first six rounds of that fight were

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perfect. He fought amazing. After that, he kind

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of started screwing around a little bit too much.

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He starts slowing down. Yeah. I mean, it's better

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than... Make a show. Make a show of it. Yeah,

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and you know what? I got to respect him for that

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because... And we're going to get to it right

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now. That's the only exciting part of the night.

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Barbosa also didn't just lie down. Like, he did

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keep coming. So... Well, the thing with Barbosa

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is that I kind of expected that performance from

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him. But at the same time, it's your first title

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match. It's your first time... having the title

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right there and he doesn't go out those last

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couple rounds dude like yeah i just think like

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like if you're getting outworked for nine rounds

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those last three rounds you just gotta go for

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that knockout dude there's no way you're gonna

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win you know i mean but we'll get into a little

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later teofimo what could be what's next for him

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because That was a really impressive performance.

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I was, honestly, the bar for me was set pretty

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low. I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of him.

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There's not much in 140. Yeah, that's what I'm

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worried about. 147. I don't like him that much

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to not want to see Boots run him over. Yeah.

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You can see a fight with him and Norman, though.

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And then you can see a unification between Teofimo

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and Boots. Yeah. Well, I don't count Norman out

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either. Yeah, I was about to say, I wouldn't

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take it as a foregone conclusion that Teofimo

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beats him. Even if he shows up, like, perfectly.

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I'm saying a path for him. I'm saying a path,

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like, a potential path for him. Yeah, the WBO,

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yeah. Yeah. If they don't strip him for being

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an insane racist. Oh, yeah. Are we going to talk

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about that right now? Yeah, let's go for it.

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Is that the only thing in the room? That is crazy.

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That is fucking nuts to say. Where that brother

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at? Where that brother at? That's, that's, that's

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crazy than what Ryan said, honestly. My, actually,

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I take it back. I take it back. No, Ryan said

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some more shit. Ryan was worse. Like, come on,

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man. It's just for attention, dude. It's just

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for attention and money. He turned heel. He turned

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heel. That's what you call it. Yeah. I still

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think people are more mad at Haney than Lopez.

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Well, honestly, I kind of find them equal. Oh,

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my God. Because Haney made me want to kill myself.

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We'll get to that right now. Fuck Haney, bro.

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What the fuck is this, bro? Ramirez shows up

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as stinky as he possibly can and you don't even

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fucking touch him, bro. Bitched out. Yeah. It

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was fucked up on both parts because Ramirez did

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not come at all. He did not come to fight. Not

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one bit. Yeah, but we knew that. We knew he was

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that washed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. We kind

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of expected that from him. We didn't expect much

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from Ramirez, but we kind of expected a good

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amount from him. Oh, fuck, man. He was scared,

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dude. Bro, he was fighting the ghost of Ryan

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Garcia in there. Holy shit. And losing. Yeah,

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this is fucking sad. This should have been a

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draw, bro. Okay, well, no. That's too much. That's

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way too much. No, because this is like a... You

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ever watch that Rancis Barthelemy and Robert

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Easter Jr. fight? Yeah. The same shit. It's just

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because there's an A -side. If it's two B -side

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guys like Barthelemy and Easter Jr., it's a draw.

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Who do you score? The guy coming forward and

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forcing the other guy to run or the other guy

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who's not getting hit but not throwing punches

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either? Well, at the same time, Haney Lanamore.

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What if we disqualify both of them? Yeah. Yeah.

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Seriously, Devin, Haney should have been fucking

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disqualified. Fine. Fine. Haney's a fucking...

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Fuck, man. I was high on Haney, and then it's

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just, like, the past couple years have just taken

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the life out of me from being like, yeah, Haney's

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my guy. I believed in Haney when he was on the

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come -up, and now we're at a point where I'm

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just like, oh, my God. The thing is, I know people

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like to bash on Haney, but you know what? I respect...

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I still give him a lot of respect. Yeah, like,

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he's fighting the right fights and everything.

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It's just, like... Shit like this isn't excusable.

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For sure, yeah. But in my opinion, I think Haney

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has a lot more heart than others. And I'll get

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into it right now after we talk about Ryan. Dude.

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What's the thing Roley said? He's got the worst

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genetics. Or whatever. Something like that. Something

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like that. Where he can't crack an egg. Dude,

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Haney can't. And he wouldn't even crack a broken

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egg. Yeah, bro. That's how fucked to be is. Were

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you guys around back when Pauly Malignaggi was

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still fighting and there was that one, he had

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one of his last fights with like Sam Eggington

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or something and Pauly goes, yeah, balls to the

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wall, like 60 full power punches right at his

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chin and fucking Eggman just laughs at him. Yeah.

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He puts his hands down and he just stands there

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and takes it. It was so funny. That guy would

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definitely take a side piece. Though, like, literally,

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like, that would be Haney. That would be Haney

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if he threw. That was Haney in the Ryan Garcia

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fight, bro. That was Haney in this fight. And

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that's going to be Haney in the future. Fuck,

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dude. What do you even do next if you're Haney,

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bro? That was about to ask. Do you fight Roley?

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Well, the thing is that I think he should still

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have the Ryan fight. I think that's the only

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fight that they have. He's technically at 147

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now because he fought at 143, 144 for his last

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fight. You know what? Give him boots. Fuck Haney.

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Don't give him that money. Don't give him that

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fight. Let boots eviscerate this man. You know

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what? There's other people that deserve that

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fight way more than him. He fought Ramirez who

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was a fucking... a fucking journeyman now, in

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my opinion. He's kind of over... What's the word?

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He's over the hill. Listen, man, he's not even

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the least qualified title challenger at 147,

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man. Pacquiao's, like, ripped up, shitty trapo

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ass is still coming back for a title shot. So,

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like, Haney is at least... At least Haney's coming

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off a win if he were to fight a title for a title.

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Yeah, but, dude, it's fucking against Ramirez

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who we didn't... Dude, it was... Oh, my God,

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bro. Okay, but, like, Pacquiao got his ass beat

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by a kickboxer last year. But you know what?

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They do that because it's money, though. And

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that makes sense. And also, at 147, who else

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is going to fight Barrios? You know what I mean?

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That's the biggest money fight that they can

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make. Yeah. I mean, Barrios is winnable, but...

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I'll watch that shit. I'll watch that shit. Because

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I want to see Pacquiao win. I think he has a

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chance of winning. No, it's just this is never

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going to end if he wins. Well, you know what?

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Mario is a soul. Again, again, I got to give

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Mario's credit. He's a boxer. He has all the

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respect in the world for me. However, the skill

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-wise, he just doesn't have it. He doesn't have

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that if factor. It's another Ramirez, another

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Barboza. He's just tall. He got knocked out by

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Tank. He got almost knocked out by Abel Ramos.

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He went to war with Abel Ramos, dude. He also

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beat the dog shit out of Ugas, though. Well,

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honestly, that was... That's Ugas, bro. Is Ugas

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that great of a fighter, too? Well, he beat the

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dog shit out of a better version of Pacquiao.

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Ugas beat the dog shit out of a better version

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of Pacquiao. I don't know about dog shit, but...

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Yeah. Y 'all see the clip after the fight of

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Pacquiao's wife, like, spooning the applesauce?

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I've not seen that. No, I have not. He's sitting

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in the hotel like he's unable to even pick up

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the spoon and eat it, bro. It's in the hotel.

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In the hotel like a day or two after the fight

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with Ugas. By the way, Paki was old. He's so

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old. He should not be back for a title fight.

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My point being... It's not even the worst. Haney

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would not be the worst title challenger at 147,

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and I support him getting the shit kicked out

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of him by Ennis. Maybe Barrios. For my entertainment.

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I'd fight Barrios after Pacquiao. Who else is

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it? Who else is it? Haney. It's not even like

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I want to see Haney lose. I just don't want to

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see Haney. I'm sick of it. The thing is, it's

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worse than Shakur. It's worse than Shakur. Nah,

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nah, nah. I can't say he's worse than Shakur.

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Shakur actually turns around and runs. We have

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clips. You know what, dude? The thing is that

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Shakur, he fought supposedly with one hand, dude,

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against Edwin De Los Santos. He fought with two

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hands and ran the whole fight. And honestly,

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you can't even hate on Shakur anymore. I can't

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even hate on Shakur. I can hate on both. Oh,

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yeah, you can hate on both, but at the same time,

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I don't even blame Shakur anymore. I don't even

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think Shakur had the worst performance out of

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all of them. We'll get into that right now. Devin

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Haney is a bitch about it. He's a whiny little

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bitch, and that's why... At least Shakur owns

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it. Shakur owns being boring, at least. Yeah,

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he doesn't... He acts a clown for promotion,

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like, oh, I'm going to knock his ass out. You

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can't crack an egg, buddy. You could even knock

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Josh Padley out, bro. Come on. Who are we kidding?

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But at least he doesn't whine all the time the

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way that the Haney's do. Both him and his dad.

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Oh, Jesus. If I never had to hear of Bill Haney

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again, I'd be happy. The thing is that they didn't

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take the loss of pride in that they say that

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they still have the O. No, you don't. I know

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what I saw. Exactly. You got the shit kicked

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out of you by Ryan Garcia. We're going to trade

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out again. Who lost to fucking Rolly Romero?

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That was funny as fuck. I'm sorry. That fight

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was funny as fuck. Are we just going to ignore

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the fact that Haney has been defeated by a guy?

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That was defeated by Roller Merrill. That...

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Okay, dude. Oh, my God. It's starting. He made

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Roll... Yeah, Ryan made Rollie look competent

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there, and that was... That's... That's quite

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a feat. Oh, my God. You made Rollie look like

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a boxer, bro. What the fuck? Are we talking about

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the Ryan fight now? I wanted to say one thing,

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one last thing about the Devin Heaney one, and

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that was that I legit... I was so fucking bored,

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I fell asleep. I couldn't watch. I didn't watch

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the whole thing. I think I passed out around

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like round seven. It was so fucking terrible.

00:15:20.889 --> 00:15:22.490
It was one of those fights where you could just

00:15:22.490 --> 00:15:25.090
go do something else and not to worry about it.

00:15:25.149 --> 00:15:26.710
Like you knew what was going to happen. Yeah,

00:15:26.750 --> 00:15:31.210
exactly. And the thing is now, I keep talking.

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Actually, Josh, you can talk. I've been talking

00:15:32.269 --> 00:15:34.889
too much. No, it's all good. I was watching that

00:15:34.889 --> 00:15:39.230
clip on Twitter, like the sped up fight. Yeah,

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not even the clown music. The first one I saw

00:15:42.250 --> 00:15:44.049
posted was during the fight being like, hey,

00:15:44.110 --> 00:15:46.110
here's a clip of the last round. And it was like

00:15:46.110 --> 00:15:47.909
sped up, but there were like two punches thrown.

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Just bad. And then, man, Roley. Good for Roley,

00:15:58.990 --> 00:16:02.210
man. Yeah, let's get into it. Roley wins the

00:16:02.210 --> 00:16:07.919
WBA regular fucking title. Good for Roley. Over

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the Batmobile, Ryan Garcia. Batmobile lost its

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wheel. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Yeah. I'll

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be honest. After I saw that hating fight, I literally

00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:25.200
told my pops. I was like, dude, there's nothing

00:16:25.200 --> 00:16:28.000
that could be worse than this, dude. It got worse.

00:16:28.480 --> 00:16:32.100
It got worse. It got way worse. Ryan Garcia loses.

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Yeah, Ryan Garcia losing UD to Rolly Romero.

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in my opinion, is way worse than Haiti winning

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via decision against Ramirez. Yeah, like, oh,

00:16:41.350 --> 00:16:45.809
no. You lose a boxing match to Romero. You didn't

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even get stopped. You lost a boxing match. That's

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the thing. And you know what? You know what pisses

00:16:50.929 --> 00:16:52.990
me off more is that he uses the excuse that there

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was no crowd. I understand that the crowd is

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a factor. It's a big factor. But the fact that

00:16:58.669 --> 00:17:00.029
you lose a fight against Willie Romero because

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you don't have a crowd is the most bullshit thing

00:17:01.870 --> 00:17:05.529
I've ever heard. You're telling me that. Roland

00:17:05.529 --> 00:17:08.109
Romero came up on Showbox, bro. He had no crowd.

00:17:09.269 --> 00:17:12.329
Exactly, yeah. And fucking COVID and shit, too.

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Yeah, COVID Showbox had no fucking crowd, bro.

00:17:16.809 --> 00:17:18.529
Yeah. You're telling me that you couldn't...

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You couldn't beat a guy that got knocked out

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to Pitbull Cruise, that got knocked out of the

00:17:23.150 --> 00:17:25.109
tank, that almost got knocked out by fucking

00:17:25.109 --> 00:17:31.089
my grandpa, and yet you're going to claim, oh,

00:17:31.210 --> 00:17:33.529
it was other factors. I didn't train that much.

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It's like, dude. Yeah. Like, come on, man. Roley

00:17:36.900 --> 00:17:40.019
took seven rounds to stop fucking known Reddit

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user Anthony Yigit, bro. Yeah, it's like, what

00:17:43.480 --> 00:17:47.680
the fuck? What are you doing? I get it that he

00:17:47.680 --> 00:17:49.539
got knocked out in round two. That's when I knew,

00:17:49.599 --> 00:17:51.960
oh, shit, he lost his heart. He lost his heart.

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Because when he got up, he just started boxing

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after that. He started just jabbing. One, one,

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one. That's all. That's all. Just kept using

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one. You can literally count Roli's punches as

00:18:05.099 --> 00:18:09.039
he goes like... Yeah, you literally fucking hear

00:18:09.039 --> 00:18:13.279
it. Yeah, just the whole fight, bro. I hate this

00:18:13.279 --> 00:18:18.400
shit. But you know what? For 12 rounds, I just

00:18:18.400 --> 00:18:20.740
kept thinking like, man, I think this is the

00:18:20.740 --> 00:18:22.940
round that Ryan turns it up. Come on, this has

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got to be the round that Ryan turns it up. Come

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on, dude. What are you doing? That's optimism,

00:18:30.140 --> 00:18:32.529
bro. It was chopped. The whole fight was horrible.

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The second that happened, I was just like, man,

00:18:34.609 --> 00:18:38.150
what are we doing, bro? Yeah, it was just, it

00:18:38.150 --> 00:18:40.289
was horrible, man. It was horrible. That dude,

00:18:40.390 --> 00:18:43.950
that itself makes that, I think that loss is

00:18:43.950 --> 00:18:48.609
worse than Haney's loss to Ryan Garcia. Well,

00:18:48.609 --> 00:18:51.109
yeah, because at least, like, Haney just, like,

00:18:51.170 --> 00:18:54.829
Haney just got his ass beat because, like, he

00:18:54.829 --> 00:18:57.609
can't send anything back. What the fuck are you

00:18:57.609 --> 00:19:00.950
doing getting outboxed by Roley? Yeah, exactly.

00:19:01.529 --> 00:19:05.829
This guy's got no skills, no defense, no footwork,

00:19:05.990 --> 00:19:11.109
no punch placement. The Haney's also can use

00:19:11.109 --> 00:19:13.529
the excuse that Ryan Garcia... No height, no

00:19:13.529 --> 00:19:18.390
reach. He's got no height, no reach. Roley's

00:19:18.390 --> 00:19:22.869
got power, and he can't land it most of the time.

00:19:23.130 --> 00:19:29.000
The thing is that Haney has an excuse now. Yeah,

00:19:29.200 --> 00:19:31.339
it really was. It was the fucking Osterin. The

00:19:31.339 --> 00:19:34.000
Osterin, yeah. He can use that shit now. And

00:19:34.000 --> 00:19:36.220
honestly, like, most people will probably just

00:19:36.220 --> 00:19:39.039
say, yeah, that's probably why he lost. After

00:19:39.039 --> 00:19:41.259
seeing the Rollie fight with Ryan, how do you

00:19:41.259 --> 00:19:43.299
lose to Rollie Romero? But you win against someone

00:19:43.299 --> 00:19:46.619
like that. That is crazy to me. In such shitty,

00:19:46.619 --> 00:19:53.480
spectacularly shitty fashion. Exactly. You didn't

00:19:53.480 --> 00:19:55.640
even lose to fucking knockout. I would have rather

00:19:55.640 --> 00:19:57.400
seen Ryan and Garcia get knocked out by Rollie

00:19:57.400 --> 00:20:00.440
Romero. Then see him lose a UD. Yeah, because,

00:20:00.500 --> 00:20:02.599
like, at least, like, you go, like, okay, yeah,

00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.099
Rowley's got power, whatever. But, like, Rowley

00:20:05.099 --> 00:20:07.460
can't, again, he has no defense, no punch placement,

00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:11.819
no hand speed, no footwork. His reach sucks.

00:20:14.359 --> 00:20:17.779
He's got no chin. So, like, what are we doing

00:20:17.779 --> 00:20:20.920
here? What are we doing? He's got power. He's

00:20:20.920 --> 00:20:23.440
got power. But the thing is, also, I did see

00:20:23.440 --> 00:20:25.579
he had a little bit of improvement with the new

00:20:25.579 --> 00:20:31.750
trainer. Just a little bit. But at the same time,

00:20:31.789 --> 00:20:35.269
it's like, dude, you cannot lose your unanimous

00:20:35.269 --> 00:20:37.349
decision to Rolly Romero. Otherwise, you're ass.

00:20:38.190 --> 00:20:42.309
No, like, bro, this guy started boxing at, like,

00:20:42.309 --> 00:20:48.589
what age? Like, age 20, bro. Yeah. Like, listen,

00:20:48.710 --> 00:20:56.210
he hasn't improved since day one, either. it's,

00:20:56.210 --> 00:20:58.410
it's, it's a sad sight to see, honestly, just

00:20:58.410 --> 00:21:01.750
that whole, the whole card itself was, at first,

00:21:01.849 --> 00:21:04.549
it seemed pretty cool, and honestly, in, in,

00:21:04.549 --> 00:21:09.869
in, in, fucking, what's the word? In theory,

00:21:10.009 --> 00:21:12.269
it, it should have been, like, monumental, you

00:21:12.269 --> 00:21:15.069
know, Times Square, the whole world watching,

00:21:15.170 --> 00:21:18.289
you know, in, in, in, fucking New York, in the

00:21:18.289 --> 00:21:20.130
middle of Times Square. Yeah. That's, that's

00:21:20.130 --> 00:21:24.130
awesome. However, you have no crowd, you have,

00:21:24.840 --> 00:21:26.279
I thought, honestly, I thought they were going

00:21:26.279 --> 00:21:28.579
to have the fight playing on the big screen,

00:21:28.859 --> 00:21:30.579
like the advertisement screens. Yeah, I thought

00:21:30.579 --> 00:21:32.759
so too. Which would have been legendary. But

00:21:32.759 --> 00:21:36.519
it was just, it looked so elitist. You know what

00:21:36.519 --> 00:21:39.279
I mean? Yeah. Which, at the end of the day, that's

00:21:39.279 --> 00:21:40.900
not boxing, dude. Boxing's not for the elite.

00:21:42.140 --> 00:21:45.339
Nah, man. Are you ready for even less people

00:21:45.339 --> 00:21:49.849
at Alcatraz? What'd you say? Oh, they want to

00:21:49.849 --> 00:21:53.250
do a card there, don't they? Yeah, the next Ring

00:21:53.250 --> 00:21:56.549
TV whatever card is going to be at fucking Alcatraz.

00:21:57.710 --> 00:21:59.730
But see, the thing is, you expect that to be

00:21:59.730 --> 00:22:03.049
kind of ass, though. Okay, but putting it in

00:22:03.049 --> 00:22:07.910
Times Square is kind of ass. I did a theory that

00:22:07.910 --> 00:22:13.150
that should have been awesome. Nah. Whatever.

00:22:13.210 --> 00:22:15.650
They should have opened up the gates and just

00:22:15.650 --> 00:22:18.319
let the people watch. You know what I mean? As

00:22:18.319 --> 00:22:22.400
much as we can bitch about this card, this isn't

00:22:22.400 --> 00:22:25.660
as bad. This weekend of boxing specifically gets

00:22:25.660 --> 00:22:30.839
worse. It only gets worse. This is as good as

00:22:30.839 --> 00:22:35.200
it gets for now. The next card is fucking terrible.

00:22:36.220 --> 00:22:40.500
Friday and Saturday are horrible. I think, honestly,

00:22:40.680 --> 00:22:42.799
Friday and Saturday were the worst. We're going

00:22:42.799 --> 00:22:45.480
to talk about them more later on. I think Friday

00:22:45.480 --> 00:22:47.000
and Saturday, in my opinion, was probably the

00:22:47.000 --> 00:22:51.200
worst days of boxing I have ever seen in my life.

00:22:51.859 --> 00:22:54.859
Second worst. I remember the second year that

00:22:54.859 --> 00:22:57.900
Eddie Hearn did fight camp in his backyard. That

00:22:57.900 --> 00:23:02.880
was the worst. No, I disagree. That was the worst.

00:23:03.220 --> 00:23:06.039
Just because of the names and all the promotion

00:23:06.039 --> 00:23:09.279
and everything for these fights, dude. I guess.

00:23:09.500 --> 00:23:13.480
This is the most disappointing, for sure. Yeah,

00:23:13.500 --> 00:23:14.799
which makes it the worst to me, you know what

00:23:14.799 --> 00:23:18.019
I mean? Yeah. And we'll talk about it more right

00:23:18.019 --> 00:23:20.579
now, but back to Roley and Ryan, dude. Jesus

00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:23.539
Christ. Ryan, he needs to go back to the gym.

00:23:24.480 --> 00:23:25.900
I don't even know if I want to see him again.

00:23:25.960 --> 00:23:28.039
That's the thing. Because losing to Roley, how

00:23:28.039 --> 00:23:30.740
bad you got to be to lose to Roley, dude? He

00:23:30.740 --> 00:23:33.920
is so fucked up. He is fucked up. He had no dog

00:23:33.920 --> 00:23:35.960
in him. He had no heart in him. Where the fuck

00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:39.099
did it go? That wasn't the Ryan I saw during

00:23:39.099 --> 00:23:41.720
the Haiti fight. Especially the right I didn't

00:23:41.720 --> 00:23:44.200
see during the fucking, before Tank. You know

00:23:44.200 --> 00:23:46.880
what I mean? And he said he was clean. He was

00:23:46.880 --> 00:23:49.599
focused. And I believed him. You know? I honestly

00:23:49.599 --> 00:23:52.559
believed him. And I feel stupid for believing

00:23:52.559 --> 00:23:56.000
him. And I think I just don't, I don't really

00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.859
want to see him fight again, bro. I mean, I still

00:23:58.859 --> 00:24:00.180
am. I'm still going to watch his fight, but still.

00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:01.980
I really don't want to pay for it. You're not

00:24:01.980 --> 00:24:04.759
going to be excited about it. Exactly. Not like

00:24:04.759 --> 00:24:07.819
before. Oh, Jesus, yeah. I was kind of looking

00:24:07.819 --> 00:24:11.670
forward to seeing him knock out Rowley. That

00:24:11.670 --> 00:24:14.470
was like the only lock. That was the only lock,

00:24:14.670 --> 00:24:17.849
really. Oh, so many people put less money on

00:24:17.849 --> 00:24:21.670
that shit? Listen, man. I could've told you.

00:24:21.710 --> 00:24:24.410
I literally told you. You can pull up the clips

00:24:24.410 --> 00:24:27.150
of the fucking... The stinky... Like the Haney

00:24:27.150 --> 00:24:31.890
Ramirez being stinky as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, you're

00:24:31.890 --> 00:24:34.150
right. I think we did... Santa, I apologize to

00:24:34.150 --> 00:24:35.970
the whole fucking box of fanbase or something.

00:24:38.369 --> 00:24:43.630
Haney should. Yeah, Haney should. Turkey will

00:24:43.630 --> 00:24:48.869
fuck off. Turkey, bro. Fuck Turkey, bro. Seriously.

00:24:49.690 --> 00:24:52.750
This is the end point. This is the natural point

00:24:52.750 --> 00:24:54.769
that we were going to get to from the start.

00:24:55.390 --> 00:24:57.930
Yeah, it's just fuck Turkey. Guy's getting paid

00:24:57.930 --> 00:25:00.069
six million dollars for him to play with his

00:25:00.069 --> 00:25:03.329
action figures and then like turns out you don't

00:25:03.329 --> 00:25:05.450
know shit about the sport and put these morons

00:25:05.450 --> 00:25:08.430
in with each other in a place that no one cares

00:25:08.430 --> 00:25:12.880
about. Well, again, the thing is that the New

00:25:12.880 --> 00:25:14.680
York card really, if they did it right, I think

00:25:14.680 --> 00:25:17.779
it could have been monumental. But they fucked

00:25:17.779 --> 00:25:20.740
it up with their leadership. Fucking Saudi Arabian

00:25:20.740 --> 00:25:25.259
bullshit. Oh, well, it only gets worse. There's

00:25:25.259 --> 00:25:29.579
Saturday. Yeah, speaking of Saudi Arabian bullshit,

00:25:29.779 --> 00:25:35.519
let's fucking continue right into Saturday in

00:25:35.519 --> 00:25:44.210
Riyadh. Canelo Alvarez and William School exist

00:25:44.210 --> 00:25:48.009
with each other for 12 rounds. So that was pretty

00:25:48.009 --> 00:25:53.930
nice. Let's start with that card. You know what?

00:25:55.089 --> 00:25:57.990
There's one good fight in this card. Badu Jack.

00:25:58.549 --> 00:26:01.329
Mad respect, Badu Jack. Still putting in the

00:26:01.329 --> 00:26:06.660
work. Still squeaking him out. Still squeaking

00:26:06.660 --> 00:26:08.599
him out. But the fight was good. Yeah, it was.

00:26:08.599 --> 00:26:12.279
It was a good fight. Good, solid pair up. Badu

00:26:12.279 --> 00:26:15.859
Jack still hangs on to his title. So he can be

00:26:15.859 --> 00:26:17.579
on another one of these cards when they need

00:26:17.579 --> 00:26:22.480
a guy. Another thing, too. I understand that

00:26:22.480 --> 00:26:24.019
you guys said that was the only fight. And another

00:26:24.019 --> 00:26:26.259
thing, too, is that I want to add in Marco Verde's

00:26:26.259 --> 00:26:30.319
debut. I think that's someone that we should

00:26:30.319 --> 00:26:34.380
be watching for the future. Marco Verde. You

00:26:34.380 --> 00:26:37.839
guys watched that fight, right? Yeah, I did catch

00:26:37.839 --> 00:26:42.500
the half a round. No, I missed it. I'll have

00:26:42.500 --> 00:26:45.980
to catch it. He looked pretty good. Yeah. Pretty

00:26:45.980 --> 00:26:49.380
good. Half a round, yeah. Half a round, yeah.

00:26:50.119 --> 00:26:53.359
Fair enough. I was talking more like the main

00:26:53.359 --> 00:26:59.299
fights, like Martin Bacoli and Ajagba. Bacol,

00:26:59.299 --> 00:27:02.140
Bacol, Bacol, for the love of God, bro. Your

00:27:02.140 --> 00:27:06.819
weight. Like, he can't show up looking like the

00:27:06.819 --> 00:27:12.259
Michelin Man anymore. 300 plus pounds. George

00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:16.519
Foreman, two. Yeah, but George Foreman was in

00:27:16.519 --> 00:27:19.880
shape to go all 12. Or he paced himself to look

00:27:19.880 --> 00:27:25.059
like he was in shape. Yeah. You know what? Are

00:27:25.059 --> 00:27:27.420
we going to start talking about that? Bacol got

00:27:27.420 --> 00:27:32.269
outpaced for half the fight by Efe Ajagba. The

00:27:32.269 --> 00:27:39.250
known, athletic, really dynamic guy? Yeah. The

00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:41.730
guy who definitely does not fight underwater,

00:27:42.150 --> 00:27:47.369
F .A. Ajagba. Is there going to be more Bacoli

00:27:47.369 --> 00:27:54.029
overrated shots fired at him? Did I start saying

00:27:54.029 --> 00:27:58.309
that? No, I think he's properly rated. If you're

00:27:58.309 --> 00:28:01.680
going to sit in front of him... And if you're

00:28:01.680 --> 00:28:03.859
just going to sit in front of him, like, yeah,

00:28:03.859 --> 00:28:07.900
he's going to use all 300 pounds and beat the

00:28:07.900 --> 00:28:12.539
shit out of you. If you have any, like, any lateral

00:28:12.539 --> 00:28:17.079
movement, he's probably cooked. As demonstrated

00:28:17.079 --> 00:28:22.359
by F .A. Jogba. The draw? Absolutely not. I think

00:28:22.359 --> 00:28:26.619
they spared Bukoli there. Yeah, like a jogba,

00:28:26.619 --> 00:28:30.829
definitely. Not to say a jog, but like ran away

00:28:30.829 --> 00:28:34.490
with it, but it's definitely like a... Yeah,

00:28:34.549 --> 00:28:37.849
you labored to a nice win -ish against a 300

00:28:37.849 --> 00:28:41.690
-pound dude. Was that a pun? Ran away with it?

00:28:44.589 --> 00:28:49.630
Lightly jogged away with it. Fuck. You know what?

00:28:49.650 --> 00:28:52.430
That fight was probably the second most entertaining

00:28:52.430 --> 00:28:57.309
fight on this card. It was crazy. 275 against

00:28:57.309 --> 00:29:02.410
Tony Yoka, they looked great. Look at Jared Emerson.

00:29:02.789 --> 00:29:07.910
He was 284. Which is like, yeah, you're letting

00:29:07.910 --> 00:29:12.490
yourself go, but fine. You're still in what resembles

00:29:12.490 --> 00:29:20.650
an athletic form. 300 is ridiculous. Butterbean

00:29:20.650 --> 00:29:26.079
level. Fuck, dude. He did look like Butterbean.

00:29:26.740 --> 00:29:35.619
It would be. It would be. Good for Jagba. I don't

00:29:35.619 --> 00:29:41.980
know how to segue into Jaime Munguia. Trying

00:29:41.980 --> 00:29:48.559
his best to do a Canelo impersonation. Carrying

00:29:48.559 --> 00:29:52.380
a guy to the finish line? Yeah. The time with

00:29:52.380 --> 00:29:56.680
the Reynoso camp, which shows... Yeah. Bruno

00:29:56.680 --> 00:30:02.279
gets... He's got his hands up. Yeah. He's got

00:30:02.279 --> 00:30:04.660
his hands up. That seems to be all he had, though.

00:30:04.740 --> 00:30:06.740
He didn't really seem interested in doing anything

00:30:06.740 --> 00:30:15.200
else. Listen, man. Bruno... Ugh. This fight shouldn't

00:30:15.200 --> 00:30:16.900
have been to begin with. This was a huge fuck

00:30:16.900 --> 00:30:22.650
-up from McGee. I still want to see more of Saras.

00:30:23.490 --> 00:30:26.049
Yeah, I'm not saying Saras isn't fun. I want

00:30:26.049 --> 00:30:30.849
to see him back. But, like, man. I think he'd

00:30:30.849 --> 00:30:33.589
be a top -ranked fighter if he were to sign with

00:30:33.589 --> 00:30:36.730
top -ranked. True, he's a good Janabek opponent.

00:30:38.109 --> 00:30:40.109
Yeah, and you know what? Honestly, he'd be a

00:30:40.109 --> 00:30:42.509
good appetizer in fights. He's a good Janabek

00:30:42.509 --> 00:30:46.210
opponent, actually. You're so right. And the

00:30:46.210 --> 00:30:48.730
thing is that, like, honestly, I thought that

00:30:48.730 --> 00:30:50.859
was a really good Munguia performance. I thought

00:30:50.859 --> 00:30:54.819
Munguia... I know you guys can clown on me, and

00:30:54.819 --> 00:30:56.059
I use you guys as my clown on me, but that was

00:30:56.059 --> 00:30:58.700
the most, like, technically sound Munguia has

00:30:58.700 --> 00:31:01.319
ever been. In my opinion. I don't know, he was

00:31:01.319 --> 00:31:04.640
really disciplined. Yeah, I know, it's just that,

00:31:04.660 --> 00:31:07.500
like, it was like in the Canelo way, where, like,

00:31:07.500 --> 00:31:09.539
he's like, you know the past couple fights before

00:31:09.539 --> 00:31:12.160
the fucking disgrace we're about to talk about,

00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:17.000
where, like, he'll just carry a guy? Well, I

00:31:17.000 --> 00:31:18.960
don't think Munguia carried him so much as just

00:31:18.960 --> 00:31:21.210
that he just... He was just being very, very

00:31:21.210 --> 00:31:23.309
careful himself. Yeah. Because he was probably

00:31:23.309 --> 00:31:25.509
scared of getting knocked out again. Again, yeah.

00:31:26.410 --> 00:31:29.529
Stick to the plan this time. Yeah, stick to the

00:31:29.529 --> 00:31:35.589
plan. Exactly. Don't Homer Simpson a guy. Don't

00:31:35.589 --> 00:31:41.630
mong you out. Don't mong him, yeah. I was waiting

00:31:41.630 --> 00:31:47.650
for that. You know, even though, like... I gotta

00:31:47.650 --> 00:31:49.710
give Munguia's props, and I also gotta give Saras'

00:31:49.809 --> 00:31:53.430
props. They put up a decent fight. I mean, they

00:31:53.430 --> 00:31:56.970
had a decent fight. Otherwise, janky -ass weekend.

00:31:58.349 --> 00:32:01.029
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit more for

00:32:01.029 --> 00:32:06.829
the technical fans than it would be for what

00:32:06.829 --> 00:32:09.309
you would normally expect from Jaime Munguia.

00:32:10.269 --> 00:32:15.200
True. I don't know. I just like... I liked the

00:32:15.200 --> 00:32:19.460
Badu Jack one enough that, like, this is, like,

00:32:19.559 --> 00:32:22.299
this is how to, like, I feel like that's a good

00:32:22.299 --> 00:32:25.160
example on the same card of, like, you're not

00:32:25.160 --> 00:32:27.259
being apprehensive about it, but you're still,

00:32:27.319 --> 00:32:31.640
like, showing your skills and being careful.

00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:38.279
Yeah. It wasn't a right fight. I don't mind.

00:32:38.900 --> 00:32:41.839
Yeah, I don't mind it, like. I'm being a little

00:32:41.839 --> 00:32:44.519
critical just because this entire card, these

00:32:44.519 --> 00:32:49.519
entire two cards were fucking terrible. But not

00:32:49.519 --> 00:32:55.000
bad for me. Oh, my God. William Skull needs...

00:32:55.000 --> 00:33:01.539
Yeah, William Skull. It's Skull, right? It's

00:33:01.539 --> 00:33:07.559
Skull. They were saying Skull. Skull. Yeah, Cuban.

00:33:07.640 --> 00:33:09.799
He's got to go back to boxing school, maybe.

00:33:09.960 --> 00:33:13.799
Fuck. Get a new skull at your fucking boxing

00:33:13.799 --> 00:33:21.779
school. Oh my god. How much blame, or how do

00:33:21.779 --> 00:33:24.319
you apportion the blame? Because for me, it's

00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:28.900
like 70 -30. William Skull bears the lion's share

00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:32.660
while Canelo has. It's also his fault for not

00:33:32.660 --> 00:33:37.359
being able to end that. That fucking farce. You

00:33:37.359 --> 00:33:42.279
know what? Go ahead, Alex. No, you go first.

00:33:42.400 --> 00:33:45.779
I'm going to say 60 -40 Canelo, bro. Because

00:33:45.779 --> 00:33:49.259
you know what? Canelo, I get it. You can say

00:33:49.259 --> 00:33:51.339
that, oh, I don't like fighting those type of

00:33:51.339 --> 00:33:53.220
fighters. Motherfucker, he's the one that chose

00:33:53.220 --> 00:33:55.859
to fight him. He's the one that wanted to fight

00:33:55.859 --> 00:34:00.240
him. And I get it, I get it, I get it. He was

00:34:00.240 --> 00:34:03.519
running around the ring. But Canelo's forte for

00:34:03.519 --> 00:34:06.200
the past I don't even know how many years is

00:34:06.200 --> 00:34:09.440
the ability to cut off the ring in a swift manner

00:34:09.440 --> 00:34:13.650
and deliver some devastating shots to guys like

00:34:13.650 --> 00:34:17.730
that. I don't think William Skoll was worse than

00:34:17.730 --> 00:34:20.230
Caleb Plant, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah,

00:34:20.230 --> 00:34:22.369
Caleb Plant actually engaged. Plant engaged,

00:34:22.590 --> 00:34:27.570
though, ever. Yeah, well, he engaged, but Plant

00:34:27.570 --> 00:34:30.090
moved a lot better than William Skoll, in my

00:34:30.090 --> 00:34:33.769
opinion. William Skoll moved better than William

00:34:33.769 --> 00:34:37.690
Skoll did. Exactly, and Canelo was able to knock

00:34:37.690 --> 00:34:40.159
him out. But you told me that Canelo couldn't

00:34:40.159 --> 00:34:42.559
knock out fucking William Scholl, bro. Here are

00:34:42.559 --> 00:34:49.039
my thoughts on that. One, yeah, at 60 -40, but

00:34:49.039 --> 00:34:53.000
Canelo's only got 40 % of the blame. He's definitely

00:34:53.000 --> 00:34:58.400
not as good as he was against Plant or Saunders

00:34:58.400 --> 00:35:05.539
anymore. But also, please note that when he caught

00:35:05.539 --> 00:35:08.500
Plant and Saunders, it was when Saunders and

00:35:08.500 --> 00:35:13.019
Plant were engaging. True. That is very true.

00:35:13.219 --> 00:35:17.420
When Plant was on, like, the dynamic of the fight

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:21.199
was that Canelo was getting, was timing Plant

00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:24.639
as whenever Plant got a bit of confidence and

00:35:24.639 --> 00:35:27.139
engaged. And, well, Saunders' eye got completely

00:35:27.139 --> 00:35:33.360
fucked when he threw that dumbass hook. Yeah.

00:35:34.260 --> 00:35:38.300
I feel like Canelo's bread and butter hasn't

00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:40.539
been ring -cutting for a long time now. It's

00:35:40.539 --> 00:35:44.179
been a lot of, like, you set the traps, the other

00:35:44.179 --> 00:35:46.860
guy engages, and you counter and build off of

00:35:46.860 --> 00:35:50.099
that. Because he countered Plant to the body

00:35:50.099 --> 00:35:52.860
enough times to slow him down and then get to

00:35:52.860 --> 00:35:59.579
him. But Skull gave us a fucking performance

00:35:59.579 --> 00:36:03.630
where he just did not engage at all. And, well,

00:36:03.690 --> 00:36:06.849
Canelo, especially the diminished Canelo of today,

00:36:07.070 --> 00:36:12.429
there's no building block to build off of and

00:36:12.429 --> 00:36:15.829
get to a stoppage. The thing is that when Canelo

00:36:15.829 --> 00:36:18.130
actually engaged, instead of going after the

00:36:18.130 --> 00:36:20.750
body, went after the head, he was doing some

00:36:20.750 --> 00:36:23.469
work. He did some pretty good work. That was

00:36:23.469 --> 00:36:26.769
like round 12. But Skull also, the thing is that

00:36:26.769 --> 00:36:29.349
you give Skull space to steal a round that way.

00:36:30.699 --> 00:36:34.380
But the thing is that when Canelo did that, Skoll

00:36:34.380 --> 00:36:38.079
didn't do jack shit. He would try to throw, but

00:36:38.079 --> 00:36:43.159
he would lose that engagement. Oh, yeah. That's

00:36:43.159 --> 00:36:44.380
what I'm saying. He could have done that shit

00:36:44.380 --> 00:36:48.820
from the beginning. You know what I mean? I don't

00:36:48.820 --> 00:36:52.239
know. It was abysmal. The fact that Canelo, a

00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:55.179
guy I've been watching for 12 years, couldn't

00:36:55.179 --> 00:36:59.559
cut the ring off someone like that. I don't understand

00:36:59.559 --> 00:37:03.849
that. He's washed out. He's not as good as he

00:37:03.849 --> 00:37:07.090
used to be in Skull. Skull is a uniquely negative

00:37:07.090 --> 00:37:11.530
fighter. Well, we saw Devin Haney. I don't think

00:37:11.530 --> 00:37:20.349
it's that unique. The thing is that you... It's

00:37:20.349 --> 00:37:24.590
just the way they engage, though. Skull... Think

00:37:24.590 --> 00:37:27.750
of Boots and Karen Chikazade in their first fight.

00:37:28.250 --> 00:37:30.489
It's very similar frustration where, like, it's

00:37:30.489 --> 00:37:33.449
one guy being extremely negative. With Haney,

00:37:33.650 --> 00:37:38.170
it's different. I like to think it's different

00:37:38.170 --> 00:37:41.110
with Haney because it's not like that is how

00:37:41.110 --> 00:37:44.650
he is naturally. It's how he has to be. I see.

00:37:44.710 --> 00:37:48.070
Is that your Haney bias talking? That's a slight

00:37:48.070 --> 00:37:50.909
Haney bias, but also the fact that, like, he

00:37:50.909 --> 00:37:54.869
can engage when he wants to. He did with Ramirez

00:37:54.869 --> 00:37:58.030
from, like, he had spots of it. He has a heart

00:37:58.030 --> 00:38:00.610
that can show itself sometimes. Like, even with

00:38:00.610 --> 00:38:03.949
Progray. Like, he was eating Progray up. And

00:38:03.949 --> 00:38:07.010
with Camboza, too. He just doesn't have the power

00:38:07.010 --> 00:38:09.730
to finish those fights. But he has a will to

00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:12.909
engage sometimes. He just can't because of all

00:38:12.909 --> 00:38:15.630
the other factors he doesn't have. Guys like

00:38:15.630 --> 00:38:18.710
Skull and Chikazadian just, they don't. They

00:38:18.710 --> 00:38:23.369
choose. Their plan A is to not engage. There's

00:38:23.369 --> 00:38:27.210
no reason for it. Also, how the fuck did Skull

00:38:27.210 --> 00:38:29.590
become mandatory in the IBF, dude? Who the hell

00:38:29.590 --> 00:38:32.329
did he fight to become the mandatory? Vladimir

00:38:32.329 --> 00:38:36.829
Shishkin. I understand that, but who did he fight

00:38:36.829 --> 00:38:39.030
to win to go up the ladder is what I'm saying.

00:38:41.010 --> 00:38:44.269
A lot of the time, it's not who you fight. It's

00:38:44.269 --> 00:38:46.809
not who, but it's like this guy's in the rankings

00:38:46.809 --> 00:38:51.010
at the right time. It's the IBF. Yeah. It's the

00:38:51.010 --> 00:38:55.809
IBF. The short explanation. If you fight who

00:38:55.809 --> 00:38:58.269
they want you to fight, you'll get a title fight.

00:39:00.190 --> 00:39:05.010
I said this with Shanada earlier, or a few days

00:39:05.010 --> 00:39:11.010
ago, and it was something I noticed about, this

00:39:11.010 --> 00:39:13.570
has happened before with Canelo, where when he

00:39:13.570 --> 00:39:19.769
fought Chavez, that was like 10 years ago, but

00:39:19.769 --> 00:39:22.690
everybody was clamoring for the Golovkin fight.

00:39:23.159 --> 00:39:26.099
And then the Chavez fight happens. It was a really

00:39:26.099 --> 00:39:31.900
shitty just event in general. And afterwards,

00:39:32.039 --> 00:39:36.059
they march out Golovkin, and they have the little

00:39:36.059 --> 00:39:40.320
face -off or whatever in the ring. And it's like,

00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:43.239
because this, of course, it makes, to me, it

00:39:43.239 --> 00:39:46.139
makes sense why the Chavez fight sucked, because

00:39:46.139 --> 00:39:49.059
he was just there to get paid, and he was a placeholder.

00:39:50.000 --> 00:39:53.059
So I'm wondering if William Skull kind of had

00:39:53.059 --> 00:39:55.860
the same instructions. And that was like, we

00:39:55.860 --> 00:40:00.539
can't afford for Canelo to be seriously hurt.

00:40:00.920 --> 00:40:04.219
Even if you're not capable of doing it, don't

00:40:04.219 --> 00:40:06.820
risk it. Because we have the blood fight lined

00:40:06.820 --> 00:40:12.539
up. Yeah. I actually still think Crawford loses

00:40:12.539 --> 00:40:17.619
that one. I disagree. We just saw Crawford. Crawford's

00:40:17.619 --> 00:40:20.989
also old as fuck. Like, this is not Brian Crawford.

00:40:21.070 --> 00:40:23.250
He threw that shit away on top rank fighting

00:40:23.250 --> 00:40:28.550
Cans and Sean Porter. And we just saw him struggle.

00:40:29.010 --> 00:40:31.110
We just saw him struggle with Madrimov's power.

00:40:31.329 --> 00:40:33.969
It was specifically, like, Madrimov popping him

00:40:33.969 --> 00:40:37.730
and keeping him honest. The thing is that, is

00:40:37.730 --> 00:40:40.389
it more that, so, it's not who's going to be

00:40:40.389 --> 00:40:41.710
a better fighter. It's going to be who's more

00:40:41.710 --> 00:40:47.429
washed. Yeah. I just think, like, it's going

00:40:47.429 --> 00:40:50.369
to be Crawford's moving up, like, 30 pounds.

00:40:51.690 --> 00:40:55.969
Yeah. Madrimov, specifically the factors were,

00:40:56.070 --> 00:41:00.610
like, counterpunching and power that gave Crawford

00:41:00.610 --> 00:41:03.989
trouble with Madrimov, which are both things

00:41:03.989 --> 00:41:07.170
that Canelo can do. Crawford's feet are not all

00:41:07.170 --> 00:41:09.489
that and never have been. That's never been his

00:41:09.489 --> 00:41:13.230
specialty. I'm going to tell you that. I'm going

00:41:13.230 --> 00:41:15.019
to tell you this, dude. He's not going to be

00:41:15.019 --> 00:41:17.760
engaging that much. He watched that fight with

00:41:17.760 --> 00:41:21.400
Skull. Yeah, but he just can't. He just can't.

00:41:22.500 --> 00:41:26.900
Can't replicate it? He can't replicate the footwork.

00:41:27.019 --> 00:41:30.500
If Crawford's footwork really was all that, he

00:41:30.500 --> 00:41:33.539
would have put away Porter in six rounds. You're

00:41:33.539 --> 00:41:37.099
calling Crawford ass? I'm saying Crawford's one

00:41:37.099 --> 00:41:40.800
weakness is movement. I'm saying he's very crafty,

00:41:40.800 --> 00:41:44.570
and he... Knows how to place his shots. He's

00:41:44.570 --> 00:41:47.849
got a good defensive mind. And offensive mind.

00:41:48.090 --> 00:41:50.650
He's a generational talent obviously. But he's

00:41:50.650 --> 00:41:54.130
washed. He's moving up 20 pounds in weight. And

00:41:54.130 --> 00:41:57.030
movement has never been his strong suit. Especially

00:41:57.030 --> 00:41:59.769
with guys who come directly at him. Like Sean

00:41:59.769 --> 00:42:03.530
Porter. Like reasonably. The way Sean Porter

00:42:03.530 --> 00:42:09.969
was coming at him. If he. Had sort of that. Those

00:42:09.969 --> 00:42:13.559
extra dimensions. Of lateral movement. He probably

00:42:13.559 --> 00:42:17.739
could have caught Porter way earlier. Instead,

00:42:17.900 --> 00:42:20.099
he had to wear Porter down. He had to wear Porter

00:42:20.099 --> 00:42:22.960
down. I see what you're saying. I do agree with

00:42:22.960 --> 00:42:25.099
you. My thing is that I just think Canelo is

00:42:25.099 --> 00:42:29.039
so old in boxing years, dude, that I just don't

00:42:29.039 --> 00:42:31.599
think you'll be doing much in there. I don't

00:42:31.599 --> 00:42:34.719
see... I'm going to be honest, dude. That Canelo

00:42:34.719 --> 00:42:36.760
versus Skull, dude, that was the worst I've ever

00:42:36.760 --> 00:42:41.559
seen Canelo. Just in general, as a fighter. The

00:42:41.559 --> 00:42:43.219
way he moved, the way he looked, everything just

00:42:43.219 --> 00:42:45.820
looked off, dude. Do you guys agree with me on

00:42:45.820 --> 00:42:49.179
that, at least? No, I agree. He looks like he's

00:42:49.179 --> 00:42:52.480
lost another step. Yeah. It's the worst he's

00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:56.039
looked in a long time. Yeah. I think ever, dude.

00:42:56.219 --> 00:42:59.179
I just think he just looked horrible. I think

00:42:59.179 --> 00:43:02.360
the Lara fight showed that he didn't have enough

00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:04.960
steps, whereas now he's showing he's losing steps,

00:43:05.199 --> 00:43:08.019
if that makes sense. Yeah, exactly. I just think

00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:12.980
the way the fight is set up is to Canelo's advantage.

00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:18.099
I'm sure. If this fight happened two years ago,

00:43:18.219 --> 00:43:21.679
and Bud actually fought more than once a year

00:43:21.679 --> 00:43:24.829
to get used to the new weights... In the timeline

00:43:24.829 --> 00:43:27.170
where he doesn't waste time fighting guys like

00:43:27.170 --> 00:43:30.110
Mean Machine and Amir Khan and actually leaves

00:43:30.110 --> 00:43:39.010
top rank instead of re -signing with them, I

00:43:39.010 --> 00:43:40.929
think this fight is a lot more in Crawford's

00:43:40.929 --> 00:43:44.909
favor. Instead, this fight, if it were to happen,

00:43:45.570 --> 00:43:51.769
Crawford's ascent totally could have happened.

00:43:52.280 --> 00:43:56.039
years earlier if he had just not re -signed for

00:43:56.039 --> 00:43:58.699
an extra two years to piss away with Top Rank.

00:43:59.019 --> 00:44:02.239
The thing is that also with Top Rank, there's

00:44:02.239 --> 00:44:04.159
not a lot of, at Welterweight at least, there

00:44:04.159 --> 00:44:06.699
weren't a lot of guys there. That's why the re

00:44:06.699 --> 00:44:10.480
-signing was ridiculous. Because the thing is

00:44:10.480 --> 00:44:13.400
that his options when his contract was up was

00:44:13.400 --> 00:44:16.179
re -sign with Top Rank and fight nobody or go

00:44:16.179 --> 00:44:19.860
to PBC and fight Spence. Spence, Thurman, Porter.

00:44:20.760 --> 00:44:23.340
I think Danny Garcia was still in the mix. Danny

00:44:23.340 --> 00:44:27.139
Garcia... Mikey Garcia was in the mix, too. Which,

00:44:27.599 --> 00:44:32.440
like... Yeah, he fought Jeff Horn, Amir Khan,

00:44:32.780 --> 00:44:36.440
Benavidez Jr. David Avanisian. Pacquiao would

00:44:36.440 --> 00:44:39.559
have come into the fold as well, because Pacquiao

00:44:39.559 --> 00:44:42.739
ended up shifting to PBC. And he still could

00:44:42.739 --> 00:44:44.820
have had those shitty fights with Kell Brook

00:44:44.820 --> 00:44:47.469
and everything, because those guys... we're still

00:44:47.469 --> 00:44:49.869
like, yeah, they're British guys, but they've

00:44:49.869 --> 00:44:53.050
come over to PPC already, like when Spence was

00:44:53.050 --> 00:44:57.550
Kell Brooks mandatory. The thing is, I think,

00:44:57.650 --> 00:45:00.409
I got a feeling that Crawford probably was trying

00:45:00.409 --> 00:45:03.909
to reach for a Pacquiao fight. And I think if

00:45:03.909 --> 00:45:06.090
Crawford did get that Pacquiao fight, I think

00:45:06.090 --> 00:45:08.610
he would have became a superstar. No, but if

00:45:08.610 --> 00:45:11.170
he would have come over, let's say he still beats

00:45:11.170 --> 00:45:13.829
Spence. He comes over, he beats a prime Spence,

00:45:13.869 --> 00:45:18.340
and then fights Pacquiao. And then moves up.

00:45:19.579 --> 00:45:24.000
Yeah, I mean... And this all happens two or three

00:45:24.000 --> 00:45:27.719
years earlier. So instead of right now where

00:45:27.719 --> 00:45:30.940
he's 37, he already looks like he's lost a step

00:45:30.940 --> 00:45:34.539
or two from the Madrimov fight. And it's been

00:45:34.539 --> 00:45:37.420
a year. It will have been over a year since the

00:45:37.420 --> 00:45:39.119
Madrimov fight too. So he's going to be like

00:45:39.119 --> 00:45:43.760
38. He's like a nice 34 or 35 who grew into the

00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:47.039
weight normally. And he's not moving up. three

00:45:47.039 --> 00:45:49.159
weight classes at the end of his career. Not

00:45:49.159 --> 00:45:53.699
as washed. Yeah. Like, I don't know. We got to

00:45:53.699 --> 00:45:57.900
see. It's an interesting fight. The thing is,

00:45:57.920 --> 00:45:59.980
you're saying, like, Crawford was assed that

00:45:59.980 --> 00:46:03.320
fight? Like, he looked horrible? I mean, honestly,

00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:07.219
the type of fighter he is, honestly, like, I

00:46:07.219 --> 00:46:08.400
think that's the best performance he could have

00:46:08.400 --> 00:46:11.440
had with him. Because you know what? I think,

00:46:11.500 --> 00:46:14.219
because if we go back to how Virgil fought Madrigal,

00:46:14.300 --> 00:46:16.710
Virgil's just a come forward straight. fit up,

00:46:16.710 --> 00:46:19.710
makes his fighter, you know, he had a better

00:46:19.710 --> 00:46:22.289
performance, but that's only because of his style.

00:46:22.389 --> 00:46:24.570
I mean, styles make fights. You guys know that.

00:46:24.909 --> 00:46:29.230
But that's why I think Crawford's lack of, like,

00:46:29.349 --> 00:46:33.449
lateral control is what's going to get him with

00:46:33.449 --> 00:46:37.309
Canelo. I disagree. I just think that Canelo,

00:46:37.469 --> 00:46:40.550
yes, he hits hard, but can he even crack Crawford?

00:46:40.650 --> 00:46:46.159
Can he catch him? Well, Madrimov could. How many

00:46:46.159 --> 00:46:48.099
times did Madrimov catch Crawford? He didn't

00:46:48.099 --> 00:46:50.000
catch him a lot to the point where it's like...

00:46:50.000 --> 00:46:51.880
Yes, he caught him. He caught him hard, but he

00:46:51.880 --> 00:46:53.760
didn't catch him a lot. But it's not concerning

00:46:53.760 --> 00:46:56.500
with Madrimov, but again, go up three weight

00:46:56.500 --> 00:47:01.179
classes and it's Canelo. I mean, we'll see. You're

00:47:01.179 --> 00:47:04.099
more concerned. Well, we will see. Especially

00:47:04.099 --> 00:47:06.000
because Crawford really hasn't been caught to

00:47:06.000 --> 00:47:09.840
the body ever. Yeah, I was about to say, if he

00:47:09.840 --> 00:47:11.880
gets knocked out, that's probably going to be...

00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.280
Because he's never really been touched to the

00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:19.260
body. I think Porter tried, but he got clocked

00:47:19.260 --> 00:47:22.159
every time he came in for it. He did all right

00:47:22.159 --> 00:47:25.860
in the first few rounds. Yeah, I had him up going

00:47:25.860 --> 00:47:28.579
into that last round, but by a point or two.

00:47:28.739 --> 00:47:31.239
I thought he stole enough, but it didn't end

00:47:31.239 --> 00:47:35.400
up mattering. We got another card to get to.

00:47:36.000 --> 00:47:39.320
A good one. Yeah, we're going to have to... We'll

00:47:39.320 --> 00:47:43.760
rehash this as it gets closer in September. We'll

00:47:43.760 --> 00:47:46.159
definitely be talking more about this. Going

00:47:46.159 --> 00:47:49.960
into the Inouye fight, that card, the Karis Crawford

00:47:49.960 --> 00:47:52.639
thing with Canelo that face -off was pretty cool.

00:47:52.800 --> 00:47:56.000
That was pretty awesome. And I'm glad they're

00:47:56.000 --> 00:47:58.719
having it in Vegas. Only thing is that they're

00:47:58.719 --> 00:48:01.079
having it on a fucking Friday, bro. That's stupid.

00:48:02.219 --> 00:48:05.780
It was so perfect until they dropped the ball

00:48:05.780 --> 00:48:08.539
right there having it on a fucking Friday. Fucking

00:48:08.539 --> 00:48:16.059
Friday. I mean. Oh, boy. We'll see. Is it September

00:48:16.059 --> 00:48:22.940
12th? Yeah. Yes, sir. Okay. At this point, just

00:48:22.940 --> 00:48:26.380
put it on the fucking 16th and whatever. If you're

00:48:26.380 --> 00:48:28.420
not going to do it on Saturday, then who gives

00:48:28.420 --> 00:48:31.920
a shit what day you do it? Yeah. On the fucking

00:48:31.920 --> 00:48:35.179
18th. Do it on, yeah, do it on, on fucking the

00:48:35.179 --> 00:48:37.780
holiday. Independence Day, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:48:38.760 --> 00:48:43.019
Fuck it. Fuck Turkey, bro. Fuck Turkey. Fuck

00:48:43.019 --> 00:48:45.719
Turkey. Fuck him to hell. Fuck him up my ass.

00:48:45.900 --> 00:48:47.860
Imagine how much of an event this would be if

00:48:47.860 --> 00:48:55.179
it were an Al Heyman PVC card. If Al Heyman was

00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:57.159
running shit, dude, and actually had good control

00:48:57.159 --> 00:49:01.639
over boxing, man, it would be like the HBO days

00:49:01.639 --> 00:49:05.300
once again. I miss those days. Every time I see

00:49:05.300 --> 00:49:06.880
these cards, I'm like, man, I miss the fucking

00:49:06.880 --> 00:49:10.639
when boxing felt like an event. You know what

00:49:10.639 --> 00:49:13.019
I mean? Oh, yeah. Even just the storytelling

00:49:13.019 --> 00:49:17.280
and the little Showtime documentaries. All Access.

00:49:17.559 --> 00:49:21.420
All Access. Yeah, 24 -7 or All Access. Because

00:49:21.420 --> 00:49:24.260
the little shitty documentaries that Zone does

00:49:24.260 --> 00:49:27.500
now, it's not the same. The heart isn't there.

00:49:27.699 --> 00:49:31.280
Top Rank tries to do it, too. Even Top Rank does

00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:35.050
better. Yeah, it just gets homogenized, though,

00:49:35.110 --> 00:49:39.110
you know? Yeah. Yeah. But PBC, they do their

00:49:39.110 --> 00:49:42.130
shit right. They don't do it enough, but they

00:49:42.130 --> 00:49:47.670
do their shit right. All right. I kind of stripped

00:49:47.670 --> 00:49:51.809
down what's on this card. Do you have anything

00:49:51.809 --> 00:49:54.210
on the undercard that released it out to you?

00:49:54.250 --> 00:49:58.909
I have Emiliano Vargas and Rohan Polanco. Those

00:49:58.909 --> 00:50:01.199
are the two that I have. Emiliano. Yeah. Hey,

00:50:01.260 --> 00:50:04.739
Rafael Spinoza looks good. Yeah, definitely have

00:50:04.739 --> 00:50:08.659
him on there. Main and co -main, but... Emiliano

00:50:08.659 --> 00:50:14.599
did great, as always. Yeah. Also, a month out,

00:50:14.599 --> 00:50:17.719
too. A month out from his last fight is pretty

00:50:17.719 --> 00:50:22.619
crazy. Well, TKO in the second, I would be fighting

00:50:22.619 --> 00:50:26.260
pretty soon as well. I understand that, but a

00:50:26.260 --> 00:50:28.820
month? I think it was... Well, that's how it

00:50:28.820 --> 00:50:31.400
is for the... How it is for the young guys, though.

00:50:31.820 --> 00:50:34.380
Like, sometimes... Abdullah Mason does it. Especially

00:50:34.380 --> 00:50:38.880
for... Especially for those IBF rankings. Activity...

00:50:38.880 --> 00:50:42.320
Activity's really rewarding. But do enough guys

00:50:42.320 --> 00:50:44.400
do it, though. Is what I'm saying. I mean...

00:50:44.400 --> 00:50:47.320
I just like seeing an exciting fighter do it

00:50:47.320 --> 00:50:49.300
multiple times, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah.

00:50:49.400 --> 00:50:55.940
Within a year. Ron Polanco did not look as awesome

00:50:55.940 --> 00:50:59.380
as I had hoped. I was expecting him to bomb out.

00:50:59.760 --> 00:51:03.940
Fabian Maidana, but he did not. That was unfortunate.

00:51:06.260 --> 00:51:09.340
Yeah, I mean, it's Fabian Maidana, but at the

00:51:09.340 --> 00:51:11.800
same time, he still doesn't have the worst chin,

00:51:11.840 --> 00:51:13.659
you know what I mean? He has a pretty good chin.

00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:19.940
He didn't look bad. No, he didn't look terrible,

00:51:19.940 --> 00:51:24.019
but I was hoping for another fireworks display.

00:51:26.200 --> 00:51:30.460
Yeah, I got to set my expectations better, I

00:51:30.460 --> 00:51:36.820
think. Expectations met. Expectations exceeded.

00:51:37.039 --> 00:51:40.059
Rafael Espinoza stops Edward Vasquez in seven.

00:51:41.099 --> 00:51:46.059
Those uppercuts just could not miss. It was unbelievable.

00:51:46.840 --> 00:51:49.260
They just generally don't miss for Espinoza.

00:51:49.699 --> 00:51:57.530
Same with Robizzi. They just don't miss. It was

00:51:57.530 --> 00:52:00.929
a pretty good fight. Very excited to see him

00:52:00.929 --> 00:52:06.809
thriving. I like Espinosa. His contemporaries.

00:52:07.309 --> 00:52:11.710
Angelo Leo has a fight coming up that we'll be

00:52:11.710 --> 00:52:17.309
talking about next time. Nick Ball would be fucking

00:52:17.309 --> 00:52:20.909
hilarious. And Stephen Fulton. I need to know

00:52:20.909 --> 00:52:25.179
Nick Ball. Nick Ball. I'm sold. I'm sold. That's

00:52:25.179 --> 00:52:28.219
way too funny. They're like a foot height difference.

00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:31.380
Exactly, I'm sold. That would be hard to put

00:52:31.380 --> 00:52:33.179
together, too, because it's Queensberry. Yeah,

00:52:33.239 --> 00:52:37.739
it would be. Well, no, Queensberry and Top Rank

00:52:37.739 --> 00:52:41.619
do collab a lot. Aram and Warren have been friendly

00:52:41.619 --> 00:52:44.719
forever. Yeah, they have a co -promotional pact.

00:52:45.800 --> 00:52:48.340
So if there's ever a Top Rank fighter that needs

00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:52.260
to go to the UK... it's managed by Queensberry.

00:52:52.400 --> 00:52:54.460
And then if there's a Brit fighter that comes

00:52:54.460 --> 00:52:57.519
over from Queensberry, it's done by top rank.

00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:02.000
I like that. I like that. Because you know what?

00:53:03.219 --> 00:53:07.880
Al Heyman to fucking Bob is like Eddie to fucking

00:53:07.880 --> 00:53:13.039
Warren. Frank Warren is the British Bob Arum.

00:53:13.340 --> 00:53:17.260
You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just glazing

00:53:17.260 --> 00:53:22.570
at this point. I always refer to WBO not just

00:53:22.570 --> 00:53:25.349
whatever Bob orders, but it's also Warren's Boys

00:53:25.349 --> 00:53:29.730
Only. Yeah, Warren's Boys Only is also good.

00:53:30.650 --> 00:53:35.510
Yep. But still, Espinosa, he's in good company.

00:53:35.610 --> 00:53:41.849
I really rate Stephen Fulton. His win over Brandon

00:53:41.849 --> 00:53:46.590
Figueroa was just beyond impressive to me. In

00:53:46.590 --> 00:53:49.960
a way, it did him dirty, but... He's, like, he's

00:53:49.960 --> 00:53:53.559
still really fucking good. Yeah. Especially that

00:53:53.559 --> 00:53:55.260
second one where, like, that could not have been

00:53:55.260 --> 00:53:57.199
hard, tough, that could not have been easy to

00:53:57.199 --> 00:54:00.139
rebound from the beatdown that Inouye put on

00:54:00.139 --> 00:54:04.780
him. Yeah. Like, rebounding and having a, yep,

00:54:04.820 --> 00:54:07.480
rebounding and having a more convincing win than

00:54:07.480 --> 00:54:10.679
the first time with B -Fig. Yeah. Good shit.

00:54:11.679 --> 00:54:14.940
That being said, Nick Ball, please, I need, that's,

00:54:14.940 --> 00:54:17.019
it's funny. Nick Ball Espadosa for the memes.

00:54:18.050 --> 00:54:21.909
Please, bro. They have a foot difference. Those

00:54:21.909 --> 00:54:25.230
uppercuts are going to be heat -seeking missiles

00:54:25.230 --> 00:54:27.869
on Nick Ball, bro. He's going to be bouncing

00:54:27.869 --> 00:54:39.289
that ball around the ring. That one, that's getting

00:54:39.289 --> 00:54:43.269
the pun, the little pun song that I put in sometimes.

00:54:43.409 --> 00:54:48.280
Yeah, the soundbite. Let's talk about the main

00:54:48.280 --> 00:54:54.000
event and fight of the year. Oh, man. I was expecting

00:54:54.000 --> 00:55:00.420
Cardenas to be finished way earlier. I certainly

00:55:00.420 --> 00:55:04.019
didn't expect him to be potentially stealing

00:55:04.019 --> 00:55:07.440
some of the rounds. And knocking down anyway,

00:55:07.679 --> 00:55:10.380
bro. Yeah. Can we talk about that, dude? Like,

00:55:10.380 --> 00:55:16.360
what the fuck? I think it's the same shit that

00:55:16.360 --> 00:55:22.019
he fell for with Luis Neri. Yeah, exactly. He

00:55:22.019 --> 00:55:26.360
got timed coming in and down he goes. That's

00:55:26.360 --> 00:55:29.460
a fucking problem. You're getting caught like

00:55:29.460 --> 00:55:32.139
this. What's going to happen if you move up to

00:55:32.139 --> 00:55:36.539
126 and it's one of Espinoza's heat -seeking

00:55:36.539 --> 00:55:41.619
uppercuts? What if it's Nakatani catching you

00:55:41.619 --> 00:55:44.820
clean with that shit? Oh, my God. He's just a

00:55:44.820 --> 00:55:48.659
beautiful counterpuncher. Like, I would not be

00:55:48.659 --> 00:55:51.820
surprised if Inoue, who has a chin, if he were

00:55:51.820 --> 00:55:56.940
to get, I don't know, be really hurt from...

00:55:56.940 --> 00:56:02.159
Now I'm more excited, though. It's not like a

00:56:02.159 --> 00:56:05.000
throwaway. Now it's even more exciting to see

00:56:05.000 --> 00:56:07.340
that fight. Now that Inoue looks more human?

00:56:09.079 --> 00:56:12.119
Yeah. Well, Nakatani also doesn't look very human,

00:56:12.179 --> 00:56:16.340
but they're suited for each other. The thing

00:56:16.340 --> 00:56:20.480
is that, honestly, with this fight all together,

00:56:20.639 --> 00:56:23.880
it was amazing. That's all you got to say. It

00:56:23.880 --> 00:56:27.139
was perfect. And the thing is that the way that...

00:56:27.139 --> 00:56:29.860
Anyway got knocked out in round two. Ryan Garcia

00:56:29.860 --> 00:56:31.639
got knocked out in round two. The difference

00:56:31.639 --> 00:56:35.579
is that one had a heart, one didn't. Anyway came

00:56:35.579 --> 00:56:38.559
back and just... Beat the shit out of Raymond.

00:56:39.159 --> 00:56:41.159
And I gotta give all the props to Raymond. Because

00:56:41.159 --> 00:56:43.119
you know what? Not many people have done that

00:56:43.119 --> 00:56:46.059
to Inouye. Not many people have had Inouye dig

00:56:46.059 --> 00:56:49.519
deep like that. Because Inouye for a bit was

00:56:49.519 --> 00:56:53.739
hurt. I think he looked more hurt than he was

00:56:53.739 --> 00:56:59.579
with Neri. In my opinion. He didn't look terribly

00:56:59.579 --> 00:57:03.059
hurt either time. No. It was just a good shot.

00:57:03.320 --> 00:57:06.199
Both of them were just good shots. He looked

00:57:06.199 --> 00:57:09.519
like he had his wits about him. I disagree. I

00:57:09.519 --> 00:57:11.400
think he was still on a little bit of wobbly

00:57:11.400 --> 00:57:14.039
legs after the knockdown and kind of going into

00:57:14.039 --> 00:57:16.440
round three. Versus Neri, he just looked like

00:57:16.440 --> 00:57:17.940
a simple flash knockdown, you know what I mean?

00:57:18.119 --> 00:57:22.800
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think he was a lot... I would

00:57:22.800 --> 00:57:26.579
say a lot more hurt than in the Neri fight. At

00:57:26.579 --> 00:57:29.440
least closer to having simply gotten knocked

00:57:29.440 --> 00:57:37.320
out, in my opinion. Yeah. card in this was awesome

00:57:37.320 --> 00:57:42.579
i what what a what a showing like you wouldn't

00:57:42.579 --> 00:57:46.960
i did not expect it one bit but pro box good

00:57:46.960 --> 00:57:51.099
another pro box guy steps up and he may not yeah

00:57:51.099 --> 00:57:55.039
he may not be he may not have like upset the

00:57:55.039 --> 00:57:59.139
champ but he stepped up with a like a generational

00:57:59.139 --> 00:58:04.650
an atg and he held his own for quite a few rounds,

00:58:04.750 --> 00:58:06.510
a lot more than anybody would have expected.

00:58:08.610 --> 00:58:11.869
They both saved the weekend. Yeah, I think I

00:58:11.869 --> 00:58:15.789
want to see a lot more of him. I think Josh,

00:58:15.889 --> 00:58:17.969
you put it perfectly when you said he's a worthy

00:58:17.969 --> 00:58:22.309
title challenger. It's just not in a way, because

00:58:22.309 --> 00:58:25.150
Inoue's a different beast, completely different

00:58:25.150 --> 00:58:29.289
beast. No, there's a world -level contender,

00:58:29.369 --> 00:58:32.949
but also this is an all -time great. Yeah. Anybody

00:58:32.949 --> 00:58:37.010
stepping in there right now at 122 is going to

00:58:37.010 --> 00:58:40.570
get fucking smoked, including MJ. But MJ has

00:58:40.570 --> 00:58:44.130
a good shot. I think he's got a better shot than

00:58:44.130 --> 00:58:49.030
Cardenas did. You know, like, if we got Inoue

00:58:49.030 --> 00:58:51.949
Nakatani right now, I'd love to see Cardenas

00:58:51.949 --> 00:58:58.110
and Akmedalios. That would be nice. That'd tear

00:58:58.110 --> 00:59:04.449
it up. I want to see him versus Leo. Angela Leo.

00:59:05.030 --> 00:59:08.889
Yeah. If he moves up to 26. If he does. If he

00:59:08.889 --> 00:59:11.869
moves up to 26, yeah. Well, he's got... Because

00:59:11.869 --> 00:59:16.150
Leo came up from 22, just like Fulton did. And

00:59:16.150 --> 00:59:20.329
I think if Inouye comes up to 126, I think Fulton

00:59:20.329 --> 00:59:24.409
moves up. Fulton doesn't want that again. I don't

00:59:24.409 --> 00:59:26.809
think he wants to get in the ring again with

00:59:26.809 --> 00:59:31.780
the fucking monster. I didn't even do good the

00:59:31.780 --> 00:59:33.619
first time. At least with Donair, you're like,

00:59:33.699 --> 00:59:36.360
okay, Donair had a good fight, good goal the

00:59:36.360 --> 00:59:43.280
first time. Nope. Nuh -uh. MJ's next though,

00:59:43.340 --> 00:59:46.539
right? I believe they said in the post -fight

00:59:46.539 --> 00:59:51.820
interview. Unfortunately. It's MJ what? MJ then

00:59:51.820 --> 00:59:56.579
Nakatani, right? Yeah, I believe so. The Nakatani

00:59:56.579 --> 01:00:01.670
fight, I think, is agreed in principle. Yes.

01:00:01.670 --> 01:00:07.449
Yes. Let's hope he wins. Let's hope we can get

01:00:07.449 --> 01:00:12.130
a press pass. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Japanese boxing

01:00:12.130 --> 01:00:14.610
promoters, if you listen to this English podcast,

01:00:15.070 --> 01:00:19.610
please give us press passes. Yeah, like we have

01:00:19.610 --> 01:00:24.610
people out there. I try to. If I can get a point

01:00:24.610 --> 01:00:27.809
of contact, I can start badgering. If I can.

01:00:28.199 --> 01:00:31.780
If I can badger the right people, I think we

01:00:31.780 --> 01:00:36.480
can make it happen. Yes, sir. It'll just take

01:00:36.480 --> 01:00:40.780
a little bit of buttering. Go to some of the

01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:49.199
lower cards at Korakuen. Listen, man. We're giving

01:00:49.199 --> 01:00:51.739
all the positive coverage possible. There's no

01:00:51.739 --> 01:00:55.699
way we could give bad coverage of that. Except

01:00:55.699 --> 01:00:57.349
Turkey. They'll get bad coverage from Turkey.

01:00:58.170 --> 01:01:01.429
Unless Turkey promotes it, in which case, yeah,

01:01:01.570 --> 01:01:06.389
no. It's only bad coverage for you. Forever.

01:01:06.590 --> 01:01:11.250
You signed a deal with the devil. Forever. Oh,

01:01:11.289 --> 01:01:19.250
yeah. Anything more for Inouye? He saved the

01:01:19.250 --> 01:01:22.949
boxing weekend. He did. I'll be honest, dude.

01:01:23.030 --> 01:01:28.760
He saved the boxing year so far. Yeah. Yeah,

01:01:28.800 --> 01:01:30.400
actually, that's true because, you know what?

01:01:31.500 --> 01:01:33.079
For, like, a couple weeks, we were just saying,

01:01:33.159 --> 01:01:35.900
like, this little weekend was going to be a,

01:01:35.900 --> 01:01:37.739
you know, a good boxing weekend. It was going

01:01:37.739 --> 01:01:39.320
to be elite. I thought it was going to be an

01:01:39.320 --> 01:01:42.380
elite weekend. Fuck, though. We won't accept

01:01:42.380 --> 01:01:44.119
one day. It's the end of the day for leaders.

01:01:45.880 --> 01:01:50.920
Top ring strikes again. The old dog doesn't lose

01:01:50.920 --> 01:01:54.840
new shots, but you know what? The broken clock

01:01:54.840 --> 01:01:59.980
is still right twice a day. Oh, man. Oh, Bobby.

01:02:00.980 --> 01:02:06.039
Love Bobby. Oh, Bob Aaron, bro. Still at it.

01:02:06.179 --> 01:02:11.159
Still got it. He still got it. Actually, I got

01:02:11.159 --> 01:02:12.659
a question. Do you think Inouye becomes more

01:02:12.659 --> 01:02:15.500
popular because of that fight in the United States?

01:02:16.340 --> 01:02:21.559
Yeah, you got the highlights. That fight's a

01:02:21.559 --> 01:02:23.960
fun fucking... Like, always having a fun fight

01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:30.780
with a bunch of highlights. is conducive to getting

01:02:30.780 --> 01:02:34.039
a bigger profile. Although with Inouye, I feel

01:02:34.039 --> 01:02:36.139
like if you like boxing in any capacity, you

01:02:36.139 --> 01:02:40.320
know. Absolutely. You know who he is. Anybody

01:02:40.320 --> 01:02:43.059
should know who he is. If you like boxing, you

01:02:43.059 --> 01:02:46.079
have someone who... I'll tell you, if Inouye

01:02:46.079 --> 01:02:48.079
was a stinker this weekend, though, ten times

01:02:48.079 --> 01:02:50.480
worse, honestly, if Inouye was also a stinker.

01:02:52.059 --> 01:02:54.639
I mean, imagine four, not just three, but four...

01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:56.880
for Kerr, Stevenson, Edwin, and Los Santos -type

01:02:56.880 --> 01:03:01.099
fights on the same weekend. Oh, my God. I would

01:03:01.099 --> 01:03:02.659
honestly have to, like, kiss the ass of the UFC

01:03:02.659 --> 01:03:04.760
people. Like, at least, like, one little kiss

01:03:04.760 --> 01:03:11.519
on the cheek. Probably on the left. It's really

01:03:11.519 --> 01:03:18.000
specific. You know what? You know, for the people

01:03:18.000 --> 01:03:23.019
that also watch the UFC podcast, a certain podcast

01:03:23.019 --> 01:03:25.929
guy named Isaac. been podcasting with Isaac.

01:03:26.510 --> 01:03:29.530
In the chat, he actually said that he thought

01:03:29.530 --> 01:03:33.170
that Canelo was going to knock out Skull. And

01:03:33.170 --> 01:03:37.929
it was a serve. It's a fair observation if you

01:03:37.929 --> 01:03:43.150
didn't know how most Cuban fighters fight. Well,

01:03:43.170 --> 01:03:44.750
no, I'm just saying that just to fuck around

01:03:44.750 --> 01:03:49.909
with Isaac. Be silly. I can't believe you thought

01:03:49.909 --> 01:03:53.119
that, bro. I forgot something he had said about

01:03:53.119 --> 01:03:56.159
Jaime Munguia and Bruno Sarras. He had said that

01:03:56.159 --> 01:04:00.980
Munguia needs to get it back. Because that was

01:04:00.980 --> 01:04:04.860
a really bad knockout. That was a really bad

01:04:04.860 --> 01:04:07.900
knockout. This doesn't cut it. This isn't a good

01:04:07.900 --> 01:04:13.360
enough win to say... I think it's any win. Any?

01:04:14.800 --> 01:04:17.539
I think for that type of loss where it was just

01:04:17.539 --> 01:04:20.900
a freak knockout where, like, you literally just

01:04:20.900 --> 01:04:24.039
didn't have your hands up at all, like, yeah.

01:04:24.579 --> 01:04:30.159
Any win is fine. I agree. Any win is fine. Because

01:04:30.159 --> 01:04:34.139
it's not like Saras outclassed him or anything.

01:04:34.420 --> 01:04:37.440
He just won by one shot. He was getting outclassed.

01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:44.420
And then he got the good shot. Yeah. All right.

01:04:44.670 --> 01:04:49.889
Now, anything more for Inouye? Because it's pretty

01:04:49.889 --> 01:04:53.170
light. I was expecting that those two cards...

01:04:53.170 --> 01:04:55.550
Fight of the year. Fight of the year. Pro box

01:04:55.550 --> 01:05:01.130
good. Pro box good. Pro box good. Pro box for

01:05:01.130 --> 01:05:05.989
life, bro. Fuck Turkey. Pro box for life. No

01:05:05.989 --> 01:05:12.090
more fights Saturday, I hope. Hopefully. Previews.

01:05:12.170 --> 01:05:16.389
May 12th through the 17th. On Wednesday, this

01:05:16.389 --> 01:05:20.510
will be starting at about 1, 2 in the morning

01:05:20.510 --> 01:05:24.429
on the West Coast. This is No Limit in Australia.

01:05:26.670 --> 01:05:29.610
Really, the only name on here is Sam Goodman

01:05:29.610 --> 01:05:39.630
versus Cesar Roca. Yeah. That's it. Hey, no,

01:05:39.670 --> 01:05:42.820
no, no. Hold on. Johnny Fisher and Dave Allen.

01:05:43.019 --> 01:05:45.639
The White Rhino's still at it. We'll get there.

01:05:46.579 --> 01:05:48.820
Oh, right. Let's do this card. I was like, hold

01:05:48.820 --> 01:05:49.860
on. I thought you were talking about all the

01:05:49.860 --> 01:05:53.320
previews. No, no. Just wanted to mention Sam

01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:56.599
Goodman for the sake of reminding people that

01:05:56.599 --> 01:06:00.079
he dropped the ball on Inouye twice. You fucking

01:06:00.079 --> 01:06:03.960
could have been hella paid. Hella paid to die.

01:06:04.219 --> 01:06:09.380
Yeah, but he decided to keep hard sparring as

01:06:09.380 --> 01:06:14.500
the fight closed in. Moving to the 17th, Saturday.

01:06:15.219 --> 01:06:23.480
Matchroom in Middlesex. This was in the UK. Johnny

01:06:23.480 --> 01:06:31.480
Fisher versus David Allen. Good stuff. I don't

01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:33.460
know. I like two fat guys beating the shit out

01:06:33.460 --> 01:06:40.940
of each other. I heard it put some... There's

01:06:40.940 --> 01:06:47.150
a big... Big boys bumping beef. Basically. Well,

01:06:47.150 --> 01:06:49.210
the first fight, did you watch the first fight?

01:06:49.489 --> 01:06:53.769
Yes. Yeah, okay. I think it's going to go exactly

01:06:53.769 --> 01:06:57.630
the same, minus the result. Alan's going to get

01:06:57.630 --> 01:07:00.730
it this time? Yeah, just because they're going

01:07:00.730 --> 01:07:02.590
to give Fisher another chance. It's not going

01:07:02.590 --> 01:07:04.070
to happen, and they're actually going to give

01:07:04.070 --> 01:07:08.849
it to Alan. Because if he doesn't get, if he

01:07:08.849 --> 01:07:11.630
doesn't stop Allen in two tries, like, what are

01:07:11.630 --> 01:07:16.809
we doing here? Yeah, Johnny Fisher will relegate

01:07:16.809 --> 01:07:20.710
himself to... Being the new David Allen. Yeah.

01:07:23.570 --> 01:07:26.329
Does David Allen retire off of this win? The

01:07:26.329 --> 01:07:30.489
Bosch? Fuck no, he's got, he's got, like, he's

01:07:30.489 --> 01:07:33.630
got, like, one more in him. One more embarrassing

01:07:33.630 --> 01:07:39.110
loss. When you put it like that. I mean, they've

01:07:39.110 --> 01:07:44.670
all been embarrassing. Also on the card, Kieran

01:07:44.670 --> 01:07:48.449
Conway versus Jerome Warburton and George Litteret

01:07:48.449 --> 01:07:51.289
versus Aaron Sutton. There's other stuff. I don't

01:07:51.289 --> 01:07:56.550
really care that much. Sorry. Yeah. This is a

01:07:56.550 --> 01:07:59.849
card that is free for a reason. Yep. They're

01:07:59.849 --> 01:08:02.329
all free. Except fucking for the turkey shit,

01:08:02.469 --> 01:08:06.030
which I had to pay for. Marv Nation. Yep, moving

01:08:06.030 --> 01:08:09.949
on. Marv Nation, same day. This one is in Thunder

01:08:09.949 --> 01:08:13.429
Studios, Long Beach, California. There's a bunch

01:08:13.429 --> 01:08:15.349
of shit on this one as well. The only thing I

01:08:15.349 --> 01:08:19.909
really care about, Fernando Vargas Jr. vs. Gonzalo

01:08:19.909 --> 01:08:25.029
Correa. So that's fun. Fernando better fucking

01:08:25.029 --> 01:08:31.850
win this. If this is who I remember, the Gonzalo

01:08:31.850 --> 01:08:37.779
guy, it shouldn't be too bad. Yeah. Let's see,

01:08:37.819 --> 01:08:40.199
do I recognize him? Oh yeah, he lost to Munguia

01:08:40.199 --> 01:08:43.279
in three rounds. Yeah. Hopefully Vargas wins.

01:08:44.039 --> 01:08:48.079
Yeah. I'd like to see Vargas on something that

01:08:48.079 --> 01:08:52.619
isn't Marv Nation. Yeah. His other previous fight,

01:08:52.840 --> 01:09:00.000
Lizarraga, that was a stinker. I think Fernando

01:09:00.000 --> 01:09:02.880
Vargas should get this done pretty handily. Oh

01:09:02.880 --> 01:09:10.210
yeah. Moving to 360 Promotions is the last card

01:09:10.210 --> 01:09:16.170
on the weekend. From the bottom up, Omar Trinidad

01:09:16.170 --> 01:09:20.369
versus Alexandra Espinoza. That's a featherweight

01:09:20.369 --> 01:09:25.390
fight. Mizuki Hiruta, a .k .a. Mimi. She's the

01:09:25.390 --> 01:09:29.550
anime -looking chick. Has all the weird costumes

01:09:29.550 --> 01:09:33.229
and stuff. I actually like the costumes. I do,

01:09:33.369 --> 01:09:39.489
too. It's fun. Pretty cool, yeah. And that's

01:09:39.489 --> 01:09:43.149
for the WBO Super Flyweight title. Oh, shit.

01:09:43.369 --> 01:09:46.670
I think Gabby's getting in your neighborhood

01:09:46.670 --> 01:09:52.310
there. Gabby, Gabby. Gabby, Gabby. Yeah, Gabby's

01:09:52.310 --> 01:09:58.390
one division below. Well, you know what? It'd

01:09:58.390 --> 01:10:01.930
be a good fight. I don't mind it. Yeah. Definitely,

01:10:02.050 --> 01:10:06.739
like... In Fundora, like, it's a good, like,

01:10:06.760 --> 01:10:13.779
70 -30 in Fundora's ballpark. But not much competition

01:10:13.779 --> 01:10:20.659
for Fundora, so. Yeah. No, it should be fine.

01:10:22.659 --> 01:10:28.880
And Sergey Bohochuk versus Mikhail Fox. That

01:10:28.880 --> 01:10:30.460
should be a good time. Is this the Mikhail Fox

01:10:30.460 --> 01:10:36.850
I'm thinking of? Probably. It is. He fought the

01:10:36.850 --> 01:10:41.470
UFC. Yeah, that's the one I remember. He also

01:10:41.470 --> 01:10:43.869
fought Shoja Han and Ergachev, if you remember

01:10:43.869 --> 01:10:48.449
him. Yeah. But how much do you want to fight

01:10:48.449 --> 01:10:50.590
like this with a card? It's kind of sad they

01:10:50.590 --> 01:10:56.609
screwed him over. Well, that's what happens when

01:10:56.609 --> 01:10:59.729
you sign with a lower level. Yeah, you got to

01:10:59.729 --> 01:11:04.710
make better choices in your management. So I'm

01:11:04.710 --> 01:11:06.750
curious, how would you sign with a big promoter?

01:11:08.390 --> 01:11:12.029
Do you like Pohachuk? How he has, I don't know

01:11:12.029 --> 01:11:15.390
how his deal is structured, but pretty much wait

01:11:15.390 --> 01:11:21.590
it out or fight it out. Yeah, like, I mean, I'm

01:11:21.590 --> 01:11:24.569
sure, like, not here. Like, I feel like Probox

01:11:24.569 --> 01:11:27.029
is perfect. This is like the perfect Probox moment.

01:11:27.590 --> 01:11:30.710
It would be nice if 360 got off a fucking fight

01:11:30.710 --> 01:11:34.899
pass. Yeah. God. Like, if you have to pick between

01:11:34.899 --> 01:11:37.899
360 or ProBucks, like... I'm watching ProBucks.

01:11:38.939 --> 01:11:41.640
ProBucks, you're guaranteed getting another shot

01:11:41.640 --> 01:11:47.939
sometime if you keep going. 360... Like, he would

01:11:47.939 --> 01:11:50.039
whip some ass on ProBucks and then get another

01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:53.399
shot. And if not, ProBucks doesn't pay that bad.

01:11:53.779 --> 01:11:56.960
Probably better than 360 promotions, I think.

01:11:57.760 --> 01:12:01.300
Yeah, because you're living off of UFC residuals

01:12:01.300 --> 01:12:05.449
at that point. You were cooked. Not Freddie Roach.

01:12:05.649 --> 01:12:08.430
Lamar Roach was from Provox. Yep. He beat Tank

01:12:08.430 --> 01:12:11.890
Davis. Provox good. In fact, Cardenas was a Provox

01:12:11.890 --> 01:12:15.430
guy. We just saw. Angelo Lea was a world champion.

01:12:16.289 --> 01:12:20.430
Exactly. Wasn't O... Who else was a Pro... No,

01:12:20.489 --> 01:12:24.409
Oshaki Fox was a Showbox guy. Not a Provox guy.

01:12:25.369 --> 01:12:30.630
Anything more for the previews? Nope. We're all

01:12:30.630 --> 01:12:37.720
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For the outro stuff, parting words. Fuck Turkey.

01:13:52.090 --> 01:13:54.750
I love Bob. ProBuck's good. ProBuck's good. Fuck

01:13:54.750 --> 01:13:59.329
Turkey. I prefer BLTs. No more bullshit in Saudi

01:13:59.329 --> 01:14:01.529
Arabia. I don't want to see any more fucking

01:14:01.529 --> 01:14:05.569
Riyadh bullshit. Could you guys buy out a different

01:14:05.569 --> 01:14:07.989
sport, man? Like, go buy baseball or something.

01:14:09.689 --> 01:14:12.569
Honestly, the thing is that they give us a lot

01:14:12.569 --> 01:14:15.609
of shit, but they give us... It's just shit.

01:14:15.710 --> 01:14:17.850
It's not giving us a lot of shit. It's just shit.

01:14:18.550 --> 01:14:21.149
They're giving us shit. than give it a shit.

01:14:21.270 --> 01:14:24.810
It's horrible. It is downright horrendous. Let's

01:14:24.810 --> 01:14:30.090
go, Bobby. Let's go, Ali. I love them. They should

01:14:30.090 --> 01:14:37.149
work together more. Fuck Turkey, bro. Also, fuck

01:14:37.149 --> 01:14:38.949
Ryan for losing to Rolly Romero. I love Ryan,

01:14:38.970 --> 01:14:40.550
but what the hell are you doing, man? Come on.

01:14:41.109 --> 01:14:47.689
What are we doing? Yeah. All right. If that's

01:14:47.689 --> 01:14:51.270
all you got. And that's all for this edition

01:14:51.270 --> 01:14:54.130
of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you on the

01:14:54.130 --> 01:15:02.329
other side of fucking Meanie Hiruta. That's the

01:15:02.329 --> 01:15:04.310
one I'm going with. Yeah.