The B -Side and Boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.
B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a B -Side.
The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. The B
-Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast.
Oh shit, the Boxing B -Sides are back. Josh,
Alex, how are you guys doing? The hood. The hood.
Everything's all good. Let's get into the boxing
right away. Let's skip a little bit of the preamble.
Into the reviews for this block. It's April 27th
up to May 4th. The Guillermo Rigondout card did
not happen, unfortunately. At least not that
I've been able to find. Gatsby did not fight
him. Yep. But what are you going to do? We missed
out on a banger. Hey, it's now scheduled for
July 11th. Oh, is it? You feel like a box wreck.
Against TBA? TBA as well. Well, that's quite
some time to find a suitable opponent. It's almost
two months. Oh, yeah. You want to choose Joe
to main? Yeah. Moving to Friday, May 2nd, in
Times Square, Fatal Fury, City of the Wolves.
Jesus Christ. Yeah. Fatal Fury. More like Fatal
fucking dumb stupid fucking boxing weekend. Fatal
because a guy got stabbed near the ring? That's
the only action that happened all night. Yeah.
Actually, you know what? But we'll get into it
once we go up the card. I have one performance.
I have one person I have to give props to. Oh,
yeah. Oh, I already know what you're talking
about. But I go pro box. We already know what
we're talking about because we go pro box. It's
Reito Tsutsumi, isn't it? The only fucking exciting
fight on the entire bill. I didn't watch the
FDNY versus NYPD. That might have more action.
all the fights. Oh, my God. Hey, no, no, no.
We got one. We got a guy. We still got one. We
got one. One fight to save boxing. Yeah. Yeah,
we'll get to that. We'll get to that. Was it
the first one? Teofimo versus Arnold Barbosa?
That was a pretty good one. I liked that. That
was the only performance I'll give any credit
to on the card. Because it's not like Barbosa
laid down. Lopez just actually showed up. Yeah,
that was what we were talking about. We were
talking about him potentially not showing up
and that being the problem. No, he did. I think
he's... He still lost a touch, but this is as
good as he's going to be without a trainer. I
think the first six rounds of that fight were
perfect. He fought amazing. After that, he kind
of started screwing around a little bit too much.
He starts slowing down. Yeah. I mean, it's better
than... Make a show. Make a show of it. Yeah,
and you know what? I got to respect him for that
because... And we're going to get to it right
now. That's the only exciting part of the night.
Barbosa also didn't just lie down. Like, he did
keep coming. So... Well, the thing with Barbosa
is that I kind of expected that performance from
him. But at the same time, it's your first title
match. It's your first time... having the title
right there and he doesn't go out those last
couple rounds dude like yeah i just think like
like if you're getting outworked for nine rounds
those last three rounds you just gotta go for
that knockout dude there's no way you're gonna
win you know i mean but we'll get into a little
later teofimo what could be what's next for him
because That was a really impressive performance.
I was, honestly, the bar for me was set pretty
low. I wasn't expecting a whole lot out of him.
There's not much in 140. Yeah, that's what I'm
worried about. 147. I don't like him that much
to not want to see Boots run him over. Yeah.
You can see a fight with him and Norman, though.
And then you can see a unification between Teofimo
and Boots. Yeah. Well, I don't count Norman out
either. Yeah, I was about to say, I wouldn't
take it as a foregone conclusion that Teofimo
beats him. Even if he shows up, like, perfectly.
I'm saying a path for him. I'm saying a path,
like, a potential path for him. Yeah, the WBO,
yeah. Yeah. If they don't strip him for being
an insane racist. Oh, yeah. Are we going to talk
about that right now? Yeah, let's go for it.
Is that the only thing in the room? That is crazy.
That is fucking nuts to say. Where that brother
at? Where that brother at? That's, that's, that's
crazy than what Ryan said, honestly. My, actually,
I take it back. I take it back. No, Ryan said
some more shit. Ryan was worse. Like, come on,
man. It's just for attention, dude. It's just
for attention and money. He turned heel. He turned
heel. That's what you call it. Yeah. I still
think people are more mad at Haney than Lopez.
Well, honestly, I kind of find them equal. Oh,
my God. Because Haney made me want to kill myself.
We'll get to that right now. Fuck Haney, bro.
What the fuck is this, bro? Ramirez shows up
as stinky as he possibly can and you don't even
fucking touch him, bro. Bitched out. Yeah. It
was fucked up on both parts because Ramirez did
not come at all. He did not come to fight. Not
one bit. Yeah, but we knew that. We knew he was
that washed. Yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. We kind
of expected that from him. We didn't expect much
from Ramirez, but we kind of expected a good
amount from him. Oh, fuck, man. He was scared,
dude. Bro, he was fighting the ghost of Ryan
Garcia in there. Holy shit. And losing. Yeah,
this is fucking sad. This should have been a
draw, bro. Okay, well, no. That's too much. That's
way too much. No, because this is like a... You
ever watch that Rancis Barthelemy and Robert
Easter Jr. fight? Yeah. The same shit. It's just
because there's an A -side. If it's two B -side
guys like Barthelemy and Easter Jr., it's a draw.
Who do you score? The guy coming forward and
forcing the other guy to run or the other guy
who's not getting hit but not throwing punches
either? Well, at the same time, Haney Lanamore.
What if we disqualify both of them? Yeah. Yeah.
Seriously, Devin, Haney should have been fucking
disqualified. Fine. Fine. Haney's a fucking...
Fuck, man. I was high on Haney, and then it's
just, like, the past couple years have just taken
the life out of me from being like, yeah, Haney's
my guy. I believed in Haney when he was on the
come -up, and now we're at a point where I'm
just like, oh, my God. The thing is, I know people
like to bash on Haney, but you know what? I respect...
I still give him a lot of respect. Yeah, like,
he's fighting the right fights and everything.
It's just, like... Shit like this isn't excusable.
For sure, yeah. But in my opinion, I think Haney
has a lot more heart than others. And I'll get
into it right now after we talk about Ryan. Dude.
What's the thing Roley said? He's got the worst
genetics. Or whatever. Something like that. Something
like that. Where he can't crack an egg. Dude,
Haney can't. And he wouldn't even crack a broken
egg. Yeah, bro. That's how fucked to be is. Were
you guys around back when Pauly Malignaggi was
still fighting and there was that one, he had
one of his last fights with like Sam Eggington
or something and Pauly goes, yeah, balls to the
wall, like 60 full power punches right at his
chin and fucking Eggman just laughs at him. Yeah.
He puts his hands down and he just stands there
and takes it. It was so funny. That guy would
definitely take a side piece. Though, like, literally,
like, that would be Haney. That would be Haney
if he threw. That was Haney in the Ryan Garcia
fight, bro. That was Haney in this fight. And
that's going to be Haney in the future. Fuck,
dude. What do you even do next if you're Haney,
bro? That was about to ask. Do you fight Roley?
Well, the thing is that I think he should still
have the Ryan fight. I think that's the only
fight that they have. He's technically at 147
now because he fought at 143, 144 for his last
fight. You know what? Give him boots. Fuck Haney.
Don't give him that money. Don't give him that
fight. Let boots eviscerate this man. You know
what? There's other people that deserve that
fight way more than him. He fought Ramirez who
was a fucking... a fucking journeyman now, in
my opinion. He's kind of over... What's the word?
He's over the hill. Listen, man, he's not even
the least qualified title challenger at 147,
man. Pacquiao's, like, ripped up, shitty trapo
ass is still coming back for a title shot. So,
like, Haney is at least... At least Haney's coming
off a win if he were to fight a title for a title.
Yeah, but, dude, it's fucking against Ramirez
who we didn't... Dude, it was... Oh, my God,
bro. Okay, but, like, Pacquiao got his ass beat
by a kickboxer last year. But you know what?
They do that because it's money, though. And
that makes sense. And also, at 147, who else
is going to fight Barrios? You know what I mean?
That's the biggest money fight that they can
make. Yeah. I mean, Barrios is winnable, but...
I'll watch that shit. I'll watch that shit. Because
I want to see Pacquiao win. I think he has a
chance of winning. No, it's just this is never
going to end if he wins. Well, you know what?
Mario is a soul. Again, again, I got to give
Mario's credit. He's a boxer. He has all the
respect in the world for me. However, the skill
-wise, he just doesn't have it. He doesn't have
that if factor. It's another Ramirez, another
Barboza. He's just tall. He got knocked out by
Tank. He got almost knocked out by Abel Ramos.
He went to war with Abel Ramos, dude. He also
beat the dog shit out of Ugas, though. Well,
honestly, that was... That's Ugas, bro. Is Ugas
that great of a fighter, too? Well, he beat the
dog shit out of a better version of Pacquiao.
Ugas beat the dog shit out of a better version
of Pacquiao. I don't know about dog shit, but...
Yeah. Y 'all see the clip after the fight of
Pacquiao's wife, like, spooning the applesauce?
I've not seen that. No, I have not. He's sitting
in the hotel like he's unable to even pick up
the spoon and eat it, bro. It's in the hotel.
In the hotel like a day or two after the fight
with Ugas. By the way, Paki was old. He's so
old. He should not be back for a title fight.
My point being... It's not even the worst. Haney
would not be the worst title challenger at 147,
and I support him getting the shit kicked out
of him by Ennis. Maybe Barrios. For my entertainment.
I'd fight Barrios after Pacquiao. Who else is
it? Who else is it? Haney. It's not even like
I want to see Haney lose. I just don't want to
see Haney. I'm sick of it. The thing is, it's
worse than Shakur. It's worse than Shakur. Nah,
nah, nah. I can't say he's worse than Shakur.
Shakur actually turns around and runs. We have
clips. You know what, dude? The thing is that
Shakur, he fought supposedly with one hand, dude,
against Edwin De Los Santos. He fought with two
hands and ran the whole fight. And honestly,
you can't even hate on Shakur anymore. I can't
even hate on Shakur. I can hate on both. Oh,
yeah, you can hate on both, but at the same time,
I don't even blame Shakur anymore. I don't even
think Shakur had the worst performance out of
all of them. We'll get into that right now. Devin
Haney is a bitch about it. He's a whiny little
bitch, and that's why... At least Shakur owns
it. Shakur owns being boring, at least. Yeah,
he doesn't... He acts a clown for promotion,
like, oh, I'm going to knock his ass out. You
can't crack an egg, buddy. You could even knock
Josh Padley out, bro. Come on. Who are we kidding?
But at least he doesn't whine all the time the
way that the Haney's do. Both him and his dad.
Oh, Jesus. If I never had to hear of Bill Haney
again, I'd be happy. The thing is that they didn't
take the loss of pride in that they say that
they still have the O. No, you don't. I know
what I saw. Exactly. You got the shit kicked
out of you by Ryan Garcia. We're going to trade
out again. Who lost to fucking Rolly Romero?
That was funny as fuck. I'm sorry. That fight
was funny as fuck. Are we just going to ignore
the fact that Haney has been defeated by a guy?
That was defeated by Roller Merrill. That...
Okay, dude. Oh, my God. It's starting. He made
Roll... Yeah, Ryan made Rollie look competent
there, and that was... That's... That's quite
a feat. Oh, my God. You made Rollie look like
a boxer, bro. What the fuck? Are we talking about
the Ryan fight now? I wanted to say one thing,
one last thing about the Devin Heaney one, and
that was that I legit... I was so fucking bored,
I fell asleep. I couldn't watch. I didn't watch
the whole thing. I think I passed out around
like round seven. It was so fucking terrible.
It was one of those fights where you could just
go do something else and not to worry about it.
Like you knew what was going to happen. Yeah,
exactly. And the thing is now, I keep talking.
Actually, Josh, you can talk. I've been talking
too much. No, it's all good. I was watching that
clip on Twitter, like the sped up fight. Yeah,
not even the clown music. The first one I saw
posted was during the fight being like, hey,
here's a clip of the last round. And it was like
sped up, but there were like two punches thrown.
Just bad. And then, man, Roley. Good for Roley,
man. Yeah, let's get into it. Roley wins the
WBA regular fucking title. Good for Roley. Over
the Batmobile, Ryan Garcia. Batmobile lost its
wheel. Nothing, nothing, nothing. Yeah. I'll
be honest. After I saw that hating fight, I literally
told my pops. I was like, dude, there's nothing
that could be worse than this, dude. It got worse.
It got worse. It got way worse. Ryan Garcia loses.
Yeah, Ryan Garcia losing UD to Rolly Romero.
in my opinion, is way worse than Haiti winning
via decision against Ramirez. Yeah, like, oh,
no. You lose a boxing match to Romero. You didn't
even get stopped. You lost a boxing match. That's
the thing. And you know what? You know what pisses
me off more is that he uses the excuse that there
was no crowd. I understand that the crowd is
a factor. It's a big factor. But the fact that
you lose a fight against Willie Romero because
you don't have a crowd is the most bullshit thing
I've ever heard. You're telling me that. Roland
Romero came up on Showbox, bro. He had no crowd.
Exactly, yeah. And fucking COVID and shit, too.
Yeah, COVID Showbox had no fucking crowd, bro.
Yeah. You're telling me that you couldn't...
You couldn't beat a guy that got knocked out
to Pitbull Cruise, that got knocked out of the
tank, that almost got knocked out by fucking
my grandpa, and yet you're going to claim, oh,
it was other factors. I didn't train that much.
It's like, dude. Yeah. Like, come on, man. Roley
took seven rounds to stop fucking known Reddit
user Anthony Yigit, bro. Yeah, it's like, what
the fuck? What are you doing? I get it that he
got knocked out in round two. That's when I knew,
oh, shit, he lost his heart. He lost his heart.
Because when he got up, he just started boxing
after that. He started just jabbing. One, one,
one. That's all. That's all. Just kept using
one. You can literally count Roli's punches as
he goes like... Yeah, you literally fucking hear
it. Yeah, just the whole fight, bro. I hate this
shit. But you know what? For 12 rounds, I just
kept thinking like, man, I think this is the
round that Ryan turns it up. Come on, this has
got to be the round that Ryan turns it up. Come
on, dude. What are you doing? That's optimism,
bro. It was chopped. The whole fight was horrible.
The second that happened, I was just like, man,
what are we doing, bro? Yeah, it was just, it
was horrible, man. It was horrible. That dude,
that itself makes that, I think that loss is
worse than Haney's loss to Ryan Garcia. Well,
yeah, because at least, like, Haney just, like,
Haney just got his ass beat because, like, he
can't send anything back. What the fuck are you
doing getting outboxed by Roley? Yeah, exactly.
This guy's got no skills, no defense, no footwork,
no punch placement. The Haney's also can use
the excuse that Ryan Garcia... No height, no
reach. He's got no height, no reach. Roley's
got power, and he can't land it most of the time.
The thing is that Haney has an excuse now. Yeah,
it really was. It was the fucking Osterin. The
Osterin, yeah. He can use that shit now. And
honestly, like, most people will probably just
say, yeah, that's probably why he lost. After
seeing the Rollie fight with Ryan, how do you
lose to Rollie Romero? But you win against someone
like that. That is crazy to me. In such shitty,
spectacularly shitty fashion. Exactly. You didn't
even lose to fucking knockout. I would have rather
seen Ryan and Garcia get knocked out by Rollie
Romero. Then see him lose a UD. Yeah, because,
like, at least, like, you go, like, okay, yeah,
Rowley's got power, whatever. But, like, Rowley
can't, again, he has no defense, no punch placement,
no hand speed, no footwork. His reach sucks.
He's got no chin. So, like, what are we doing
here? What are we doing? He's got power. He's
got power. But the thing is, also, I did see
he had a little bit of improvement with the new
trainer. Just a little bit. But at the same time,
it's like, dude, you cannot lose your unanimous
decision to Rolly Romero. Otherwise, you're ass.
No, like, bro, this guy started boxing at, like,
what age? Like, age 20, bro. Yeah. Like, listen,
he hasn't improved since day one, either. it's,
it's, it's a sad sight to see, honestly, just
that whole, the whole card itself was, at first,
it seemed pretty cool, and honestly, in, in,
in, in, fucking, what's the word? In theory,
it, it should have been, like, monumental, you
know, Times Square, the whole world watching,
you know, in, in, in, fucking New York, in the
middle of Times Square. Yeah. That's, that's
awesome. However, you have no crowd, you have,
I thought, honestly, I thought they were going
to have the fight playing on the big screen,
like the advertisement screens. Yeah, I thought
so too. Which would have been legendary. But
it was just, it looked so elitist. You know what
I mean? Yeah. Which, at the end of the day, that's
not boxing, dude. Boxing's not for the elite.
Nah, man. Are you ready for even less people
at Alcatraz? What'd you say? Oh, they want to
do a card there, don't they? Yeah, the next Ring
TV whatever card is going to be at fucking Alcatraz.
But see, the thing is, you expect that to be
kind of ass, though. Okay, but putting it in
Times Square is kind of ass. I did a theory that
that should have been awesome. Nah. Whatever.
They should have opened up the gates and just
let the people watch. You know what I mean? As
much as we can bitch about this card, this isn't
as bad. This weekend of boxing specifically gets
worse. It only gets worse. This is as good as
it gets for now. The next card is fucking terrible.
Friday and Saturday are horrible. I think, honestly,
Friday and Saturday were the worst. We're going
to talk about them more later on. I think Friday
and Saturday, in my opinion, was probably the
worst days of boxing I have ever seen in my life.
Second worst. I remember the second year that
Eddie Hearn did fight camp in his backyard. That
was the worst. No, I disagree. That was the worst.
Just because of the names and all the promotion
and everything for these fights, dude. I guess.
This is the most disappointing, for sure. Yeah,
which makes it the worst to me, you know what
I mean? Yeah. And we'll talk about it more right
now, but back to Roley and Ryan, dude. Jesus
Christ. Ryan, he needs to go back to the gym.
I don't even know if I want to see him again.
That's the thing. Because losing to Roley, how
bad you got to be to lose to Roley, dude? He
is so fucked up. He is fucked up. He had no dog
in him. He had no heart in him. Where the fuck
did it go? That wasn't the Ryan I saw during
the Haiti fight. Especially the right I didn't
see during the fucking, before Tank. You know
what I mean? And he said he was clean. He was
focused. And I believed him. You know? I honestly
believed him. And I feel stupid for believing
him. And I think I just don't, I don't really
want to see him fight again, bro. I mean, I still
am. I'm still going to watch his fight, but still.
I really don't want to pay for it. You're not
going to be excited about it. Exactly. Not like
before. Oh, Jesus, yeah. I was kind of looking
forward to seeing him knock out Rowley. That
was like the only lock. That was the only lock,
really. Oh, so many people put less money on
that shit? Listen, man. I could've told you.
I literally told you. You can pull up the clips
of the fucking... The stinky... Like the Haney
Ramirez being stinky as fuck. Yeah. Yeah, you're
right. I think we did... Santa, I apologize to
the whole fucking box of fanbase or something.
Haney should. Yeah, Haney should. Turkey will
fuck off. Turkey, bro. Fuck Turkey, bro. Seriously.
This is the end point. This is the natural point
that we were going to get to from the start.
Yeah, it's just fuck Turkey. Guy's getting paid
six million dollars for him to play with his
action figures and then like turns out you don't
know shit about the sport and put these morons
in with each other in a place that no one cares
about. Well, again, the thing is that the New
York card really, if they did it right, I think
it could have been monumental. But they fucked
it up with their leadership. Fucking Saudi Arabian
bullshit. Oh, well, it only gets worse. There's
Saturday. Yeah, speaking of Saudi Arabian bullshit,
let's fucking continue right into Saturday in
Riyadh. Canelo Alvarez and William School exist
with each other for 12 rounds. So that was pretty
nice. Let's start with that card. You know what?
There's one good fight in this card. Badu Jack.
Mad respect, Badu Jack. Still putting in the
work. Still squeaking him out. Still squeaking
him out. But the fight was good. Yeah, it was.
It was a good fight. Good, solid pair up. Badu
Jack still hangs on to his title. So he can be
on another one of these cards when they need
a guy. Another thing, too. I understand that
you guys said that was the only fight. And another
thing, too, is that I want to add in Marco Verde's
debut. I think that's someone that we should
be watching for the future. Marco Verde. You
guys watched that fight, right? Yeah, I did catch
the half a round. No, I missed it. I'll have
to catch it. He looked pretty good. Yeah. Pretty
good. Half a round, yeah. Half a round, yeah.
Fair enough. I was talking more like the main
fights, like Martin Bacoli and Ajagba. Bacol,
Bacol, Bacol, for the love of God, bro. Your
weight. Like, he can't show up looking like the
Michelin Man anymore. 300 plus pounds. George
Foreman, two. Yeah, but George Foreman was in
shape to go all 12. Or he paced himself to look
like he was in shape. Yeah. You know what? Are
we going to start talking about that? Bacol got
outpaced for half the fight by Efe Ajagba. The
known, athletic, really dynamic guy? Yeah. The
guy who definitely does not fight underwater,
F .A. Ajagba. Is there going to be more Bacoli
overrated shots fired at him? Did I start saying
that? No, I think he's properly rated. If you're
going to sit in front of him... And if you're
just going to sit in front of him, like, yeah,
he's going to use all 300 pounds and beat the
shit out of you. If you have any, like, any lateral
movement, he's probably cooked. As demonstrated
by F .A. Jogba. The draw? Absolutely not. I think
they spared Bukoli there. Yeah, like a jogba,
definitely. Not to say a jog, but like ran away
with it, but it's definitely like a... Yeah,
you labored to a nice win -ish against a 300
-pound dude. Was that a pun? Ran away with it?
Lightly jogged away with it. Fuck. You know what?
That fight was probably the second most entertaining
fight on this card. It was crazy. 275 against
Tony Yoka, they looked great. Look at Jared Emerson.
He was 284. Which is like, yeah, you're letting
yourself go, but fine. You're still in what resembles
an athletic form. 300 is ridiculous. Butterbean
level. Fuck, dude. He did look like Butterbean.
It would be. It would be. Good for Jagba. I don't
know how to segue into Jaime Munguia. Trying
his best to do a Canelo impersonation. Carrying
a guy to the finish line? Yeah. The time with
the Reynoso camp, which shows... Yeah. Bruno
gets... He's got his hands up. Yeah. He's got
his hands up. That seems to be all he had, though.
He didn't really seem interested in doing anything
else. Listen, man. Bruno... Ugh. This fight shouldn't
have been to begin with. This was a huge fuck
-up from McGee. I still want to see more of Saras.
Yeah, I'm not saying Saras isn't fun. I want
to see him back. But, like, man. I think he'd
be a top -ranked fighter if he were to sign with
top -ranked. True, he's a good Janabek opponent.
Yeah, and you know what? Honestly, he'd be a
good appetizer in fights. He's a good Janabek
opponent, actually. You're so right. And the
thing is that, like, honestly, I thought that
was a really good Munguia performance. I thought
Munguia... I know you guys can clown on me, and
I use you guys as my clown on me, but that was
the most, like, technically sound Munguia has
ever been. In my opinion. I don't know, he was
really disciplined. Yeah, I know, it's just that,
like, it was like in the Canelo way, where, like,
he's like, you know the past couple fights before
the fucking disgrace we're about to talk about,
where, like, he'll just carry a guy? Well, I
don't think Munguia carried him so much as just
that he just... He was just being very, very
careful himself. Yeah. Because he was probably
scared of getting knocked out again. Again, yeah.
Stick to the plan this time. Yeah, stick to the
plan. Exactly. Don't Homer Simpson a guy. Don't
mong you out. Don't mong him, yeah. I was waiting
for that. You know, even though, like... I gotta
give Munguia's props, and I also gotta give Saras'
props. They put up a decent fight. I mean, they
had a decent fight. Otherwise, janky -ass weekend.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, it was a little bit more for
the technical fans than it would be for what
you would normally expect from Jaime Munguia.
True. I don't know. I just like... I liked the
Badu Jack one enough that, like, this is, like,
this is how to, like, I feel like that's a good
example on the same card of, like, you're not
being apprehensive about it, but you're still,
like, showing your skills and being careful.
Yeah. It wasn't a right fight. I don't mind.
Yeah, I don't mind it, like. I'm being a little
critical just because this entire card, these
entire two cards were fucking terrible. But not
bad for me. Oh, my God. William Skull needs...
Yeah, William Skull. It's Skull, right? It's
Skull. They were saying Skull. Skull. Yeah, Cuban.
He's got to go back to boxing school, maybe.
Fuck. Get a new skull at your fucking boxing
school. Oh my god. How much blame, or how do
you apportion the blame? Because for me, it's
like 70 -30. William Skull bears the lion's share
while Canelo has. It's also his fault for not
being able to end that. That fucking farce. You
know what? Go ahead, Alex. No, you go first.
I'm going to say 60 -40 Canelo, bro. Because
you know what? Canelo, I get it. You can say
that, oh, I don't like fighting those type of
fighters. Motherfucker, he's the one that chose
to fight him. He's the one that wanted to fight
him. And I get it, I get it, I get it. He was
running around the ring. But Canelo's forte for
the past I don't even know how many years is
the ability to cut off the ring in a swift manner
and deliver some devastating shots to guys like
that. I don't think William Skoll was worse than
Caleb Plant, you know what I mean? I mean, yeah,
Caleb Plant actually engaged. Plant engaged,
though, ever. Yeah, well, he engaged, but Plant
moved a lot better than William Skoll, in my
opinion. William Skoll moved better than William
Skoll did. Exactly, and Canelo was able to knock
him out. But you told me that Canelo couldn't
knock out fucking William Scholl, bro. Here are
my thoughts on that. One, yeah, at 60 -40, but
Canelo's only got 40 % of the blame. He's definitely
not as good as he was against Plant or Saunders
anymore. But also, please note that when he caught
Plant and Saunders, it was when Saunders and
Plant were engaging. True. That is very true.
When Plant was on, like, the dynamic of the fight
was that Canelo was getting, was timing Plant
as whenever Plant got a bit of confidence and
engaged. And, well, Saunders' eye got completely
fucked when he threw that dumbass hook. Yeah.
I feel like Canelo's bread and butter hasn't
been ring -cutting for a long time now. It's
been a lot of, like, you set the traps, the other
guy engages, and you counter and build off of
that. Because he countered Plant to the body
enough times to slow him down and then get to
him. But Skull gave us a fucking performance
where he just did not engage at all. And, well,
Canelo, especially the diminished Canelo of today,
there's no building block to build off of and
get to a stoppage. The thing is that when Canelo
actually engaged, instead of going after the
body, went after the head, he was doing some
work. He did some pretty good work. That was
like round 12. But Skull also, the thing is that
you give Skull space to steal a round that way.
But the thing is that when Canelo did that, Skoll
didn't do jack shit. He would try to throw, but
he would lose that engagement. Oh, yeah. That's
what I'm saying. He could have done that shit
from the beginning. You know what I mean? I don't
know. It was abysmal. The fact that Canelo, a
guy I've been watching for 12 years, couldn't
cut the ring off someone like that. I don't understand
that. He's washed out. He's not as good as he
used to be in Skull. Skull is a uniquely negative
fighter. Well, we saw Devin Haney. I don't think
it's that unique. The thing is that you... It's
just the way they engage, though. Skull... Think
of Boots and Karen Chikazade in their first fight.
It's very similar frustration where, like, it's
one guy being extremely negative. With Haney,
it's different. I like to think it's different
with Haney because it's not like that is how
he is naturally. It's how he has to be. I see.
Is that your Haney bias talking? That's a slight
Haney bias, but also the fact that, like, he
can engage when he wants to. He did with Ramirez
from, like, he had spots of it. He has a heart
that can show itself sometimes. Like, even with
Progray. Like, he was eating Progray up. And
with Camboza, too. He just doesn't have the power
to finish those fights. But he has a will to
engage sometimes. He just can't because of all
the other factors he doesn't have. Guys like
Skull and Chikazadian just, they don't. They
choose. Their plan A is to not engage. There's
no reason for it. Also, how the fuck did Skull
become mandatory in the IBF, dude? Who the hell
did he fight to become the mandatory? Vladimir
Shishkin. I understand that, but who did he fight
to win to go up the ladder is what I'm saying.
A lot of the time, it's not who you fight. It's
not who, but it's like this guy's in the rankings
at the right time. It's the IBF. Yeah. It's the
IBF. The short explanation. If you fight who
they want you to fight, you'll get a title fight.
I said this with Shanada earlier, or a few days
ago, and it was something I noticed about, this
has happened before with Canelo, where when he
fought Chavez, that was like 10 years ago, but
everybody was clamoring for the Golovkin fight.
And then the Chavez fight happens. It was a really
shitty just event in general. And afterwards,
they march out Golovkin, and they have the little
face -off or whatever in the ring. And it's like,
because this, of course, it makes, to me, it
makes sense why the Chavez fight sucked, because
he was just there to get paid, and he was a placeholder.
So I'm wondering if William Skull kind of had
the same instructions. And that was like, we
can't afford for Canelo to be seriously hurt.
Even if you're not capable of doing it, don't
risk it. Because we have the blood fight lined
up. Yeah. I actually still think Crawford loses
that one. I disagree. We just saw Crawford. Crawford's
also old as fuck. Like, this is not Brian Crawford.
He threw that shit away on top rank fighting
Cans and Sean Porter. And we just saw him struggle.
We just saw him struggle with Madrimov's power.
It was specifically, like, Madrimov popping him
and keeping him honest. The thing is that, is
it more that, so, it's not who's going to be
a better fighter. It's going to be who's more
washed. Yeah. I just think, like, it's going
to be Crawford's moving up, like, 30 pounds.
Yeah. Madrimov, specifically the factors were,
like, counterpunching and power that gave Crawford
trouble with Madrimov, which are both things
that Canelo can do. Crawford's feet are not all
that and never have been. That's never been his
specialty. I'm going to tell you that. I'm going
to tell you this, dude. He's not going to be
engaging that much. He watched that fight with
Skull. Yeah, but he just can't. He just can't.
Can't replicate it? He can't replicate the footwork.
If Crawford's footwork really was all that, he
would have put away Porter in six rounds. You're
calling Crawford ass? I'm saying Crawford's one
weakness is movement. I'm saying he's very crafty,
and he... Knows how to place his shots. He's
got a good defensive mind. And offensive mind.
He's a generational talent obviously. But he's
washed. He's moving up 20 pounds in weight. And
movement has never been his strong suit. Especially
with guys who come directly at him. Like Sean
Porter. Like reasonably. The way Sean Porter
was coming at him. If he. Had sort of that. Those
extra dimensions. Of lateral movement. He probably
could have caught Porter way earlier. Instead,
he had to wear Porter down. He had to wear Porter
down. I see what you're saying. I do agree with
you. My thing is that I just think Canelo is
so old in boxing years, dude, that I just don't
think you'll be doing much in there. I don't
see... I'm going to be honest, dude. That Canelo
versus Skull, dude, that was the worst I've ever
seen Canelo. Just in general, as a fighter. The
way he moved, the way he looked, everything just
looked off, dude. Do you guys agree with me on
that, at least? No, I agree. He looks like he's
lost another step. Yeah. It's the worst he's
looked in a long time. Yeah. I think ever, dude.
I just think he just looked horrible. I think
the Lara fight showed that he didn't have enough
steps, whereas now he's showing he's losing steps,
if that makes sense. Yeah, exactly. I just think
the way the fight is set up is to Canelo's advantage.
I'm sure. If this fight happened two years ago,
and Bud actually fought more than once a year
to get used to the new weights... In the timeline
where he doesn't waste time fighting guys like
Mean Machine and Amir Khan and actually leaves
top rank instead of re -signing with them, I
think this fight is a lot more in Crawford's
favor. Instead, this fight, if it were to happen,
Crawford's ascent totally could have happened.
years earlier if he had just not re -signed for
an extra two years to piss away with Top Rank.
The thing is that also with Top Rank, there's
not a lot of, at Welterweight at least, there
weren't a lot of guys there. That's why the re
-signing was ridiculous. Because the thing is
that his options when his contract was up was
re -sign with Top Rank and fight nobody or go
to PBC and fight Spence. Spence, Thurman, Porter.
I think Danny Garcia was still in the mix. Danny
Garcia... Mikey Garcia was in the mix, too. Which,
like... Yeah, he fought Jeff Horn, Amir Khan,
Benavidez Jr. David Avanisian. Pacquiao would
have come into the fold as well, because Pacquiao
ended up shifting to PBC. And he still could
have had those shitty fights with Kell Brook
and everything, because those guys... we're still
like, yeah, they're British guys, but they've
come over to PPC already, like when Spence was
Kell Brooks mandatory. The thing is, I think,
I got a feeling that Crawford probably was trying
to reach for a Pacquiao fight. And I think if
Crawford did get that Pacquiao fight, I think
he would have became a superstar. No, but if
he would have come over, let's say he still beats
Spence. He comes over, he beats a prime Spence,
and then fights Pacquiao. And then moves up.
Yeah, I mean... And this all happens two or three
years earlier. So instead of right now where
he's 37, he already looks like he's lost a step
or two from the Madrimov fight. And it's been
a year. It will have been over a year since the
Madrimov fight too. So he's going to be like
38. He's like a nice 34 or 35 who grew into the
weight normally. And he's not moving up. three
weight classes at the end of his career. Not
as washed. Yeah. Like, I don't know. We got to
see. It's an interesting fight. The thing is,
you're saying, like, Crawford was assed that
fight? Like, he looked horrible? I mean, honestly,
the type of fighter he is, honestly, like, I
think that's the best performance he could have
had with him. Because you know what? I think,
because if we go back to how Virgil fought Madrigal,
Virgil's just a come forward straight. fit up,
makes his fighter, you know, he had a better
performance, but that's only because of his style.
I mean, styles make fights. You guys know that.
But that's why I think Crawford's lack of, like,
lateral control is what's going to get him with
Canelo. I disagree. I just think that Canelo,
yes, he hits hard, but can he even crack Crawford?
Can he catch him? Well, Madrimov could. How many
times did Madrimov catch Crawford? He didn't
catch him a lot to the point where it's like...
Yes, he caught him. He caught him hard, but he
didn't catch him a lot. But it's not concerning
with Madrimov, but again, go up three weight
classes and it's Canelo. I mean, we'll see. You're
more concerned. Well, we will see. Especially
because Crawford really hasn't been caught to
the body ever. Yeah, I was about to say, if he
gets knocked out, that's probably going to be...
Because he's never really been touched to the
body. I think Porter tried, but he got clocked
every time he came in for it. He did all right
in the first few rounds. Yeah, I had him up going
into that last round, but by a point or two.
I thought he stole enough, but it didn't end
up mattering. We got another card to get to.
A good one. Yeah, we're going to have to... We'll
rehash this as it gets closer in September. We'll
definitely be talking more about this. Going
into the Inouye fight, that card, the Karis Crawford
thing with Canelo that face -off was pretty cool.
That was pretty awesome. And I'm glad they're
having it in Vegas. Only thing is that they're
having it on a fucking Friday, bro. That's stupid.
It was so perfect until they dropped the ball
right there having it on a fucking Friday. Fucking
Friday. I mean. Oh, boy. We'll see. Is it September
12th? Yeah. Yes, sir. Okay. At this point, just
put it on the fucking 16th and whatever. If you're
not going to do it on Saturday, then who gives
a shit what day you do it? Yeah. On the fucking
18th. Do it on, yeah, do it on, on fucking the
holiday. Independence Day, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Fuck it. Fuck Turkey, bro. Fuck Turkey. Fuck
Turkey. Fuck him to hell. Fuck him up my ass.
Imagine how much of an event this would be if
it were an Al Heyman PVC card. If Al Heyman was
running shit, dude, and actually had good control
over boxing, man, it would be like the HBO days
once again. I miss those days. Every time I see
these cards, I'm like, man, I miss the fucking
when boxing felt like an event. You know what
I mean? Oh, yeah. Even just the storytelling
and the little Showtime documentaries. All Access.
All Access. Yeah, 24 -7 or All Access. Because
the little shitty documentaries that Zone does
now, it's not the same. The heart isn't there.
Top Rank tries to do it, too. Even Top Rank does
better. Yeah, it just gets homogenized, though,
you know? Yeah. Yeah. But PBC, they do their
shit right. They don't do it enough, but they
do their shit right. All right. I kind of stripped
down what's on this card. Do you have anything
on the undercard that released it out to you?
I have Emiliano Vargas and Rohan Polanco. Those
are the two that I have. Emiliano. Yeah. Hey,
Rafael Spinoza looks good. Yeah, definitely have
him on there. Main and co -main, but... Emiliano
did great, as always. Yeah. Also, a month out,
too. A month out from his last fight is pretty
crazy. Well, TKO in the second, I would be fighting
pretty soon as well. I understand that, but a
month? I think it was... Well, that's how it
is for the... How it is for the young guys, though.
Like, sometimes... Abdullah Mason does it. Especially
for... Especially for those IBF rankings. Activity...
Activity's really rewarding. But do enough guys
do it, though. Is what I'm saying. I mean...
I just like seeing an exciting fighter do it
multiple times, you know what I mean? Oh, yeah.
Within a year. Ron Polanco did not look as awesome
as I had hoped. I was expecting him to bomb out.
Fabian Maidana, but he did not. That was unfortunate.
Yeah, I mean, it's Fabian Maidana, but at the
same time, he still doesn't have the worst chin,
you know what I mean? He has a pretty good chin.
He didn't look bad. No, he didn't look terrible,
but I was hoping for another fireworks display.
Yeah, I got to set my expectations better, I
think. Expectations met. Expectations exceeded.
Rafael Espinoza stops Edward Vasquez in seven.
Those uppercuts just could not miss. It was unbelievable.
They just generally don't miss for Espinoza.
Same with Robizzi. They just don't miss. It was
a pretty good fight. Very excited to see him
thriving. I like Espinosa. His contemporaries.
Angelo Leo has a fight coming up that we'll be
talking about next time. Nick Ball would be fucking
hilarious. And Stephen Fulton. I need to know
Nick Ball. Nick Ball. I'm sold. I'm sold. That's
way too funny. They're like a foot height difference.
Exactly, I'm sold. That would be hard to put
together, too, because it's Queensberry. Yeah,
it would be. Well, no, Queensberry and Top Rank
do collab a lot. Aram and Warren have been friendly
forever. Yeah, they have a co -promotional pact.
So if there's ever a Top Rank fighter that needs
to go to the UK... it's managed by Queensberry.
And then if there's a Brit fighter that comes
over from Queensberry, it's done by top rank.
I like that. I like that. Because you know what?
Al Heyman to fucking Bob is like Eddie to fucking
Warren. Frank Warren is the British Bob Arum.
You know what I mean? Yeah. I'm just glazing
at this point. I always refer to WBO not just
whatever Bob orders, but it's also Warren's Boys
Only. Yeah, Warren's Boys Only is also good.
Yep. But still, Espinosa, he's in good company.
I really rate Stephen Fulton. His win over Brandon
Figueroa was just beyond impressive to me. In
a way, it did him dirty, but... He's, like, he's
still really fucking good. Yeah. Especially that
second one where, like, that could not have been
hard, tough, that could not have been easy to
rebound from the beatdown that Inouye put on
him. Yeah. Like, rebounding and having a, yep,
rebounding and having a more convincing win than
the first time with B -Fig. Yeah. Good shit.
That being said, Nick Ball, please, I need, that's,
it's funny. Nick Ball Espadosa for the memes.
Please, bro. They have a foot difference. Those
uppercuts are going to be heat -seeking missiles
on Nick Ball, bro. He's going to be bouncing
that ball around the ring. That one, that's getting
the pun, the little pun song that I put in sometimes.
Yeah, the soundbite. Let's talk about the main
event and fight of the year. Oh, man. I was expecting
Cardenas to be finished way earlier. I certainly
didn't expect him to be potentially stealing
some of the rounds. And knocking down anyway,
bro. Yeah. Can we talk about that, dude? Like,
what the fuck? I think it's the same shit that
he fell for with Luis Neri. Yeah, exactly. He
got timed coming in and down he goes. That's
a fucking problem. You're getting caught like
this. What's going to happen if you move up to
126 and it's one of Espinoza's heat -seeking
uppercuts? What if it's Nakatani catching you
clean with that shit? Oh, my God. He's just a
beautiful counterpuncher. Like, I would not be
surprised if Inoue, who has a chin, if he were
to get, I don't know, be really hurt from...
Now I'm more excited, though. It's not like a
throwaway. Now it's even more exciting to see
that fight. Now that Inoue looks more human?
Yeah. Well, Nakatani also doesn't look very human,
but they're suited for each other. The thing
is that, honestly, with this fight all together,
it was amazing. That's all you got to say. It
was perfect. And the thing is that the way that...
Anyway got knocked out in round two. Ryan Garcia
got knocked out in round two. The difference
is that one had a heart, one didn't. Anyway came
back and just... Beat the shit out of Raymond.
And I gotta give all the props to Raymond. Because
you know what? Not many people have done that
to Inouye. Not many people have had Inouye dig
deep like that. Because Inouye for a bit was
hurt. I think he looked more hurt than he was
with Neri. In my opinion. He didn't look terribly
hurt either time. No. It was just a good shot.
Both of them were just good shots. He looked
like he had his wits about him. I disagree. I
think he was still on a little bit of wobbly
legs after the knockdown and kind of going into
round three. Versus Neri, he just looked like
a simple flash knockdown, you know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I think he was a lot... I would
say a lot more hurt than in the Neri fight. At
least closer to having simply gotten knocked
out, in my opinion. Yeah. card in this was awesome
i what what a what a showing like you wouldn't
i did not expect it one bit but pro box good
another pro box guy steps up and he may not yeah
he may not be he may not have like upset the
champ but he stepped up with a like a generational
an atg and he held his own for quite a few rounds,
a lot more than anybody would have expected.
They both saved the weekend. Yeah, I think I
want to see a lot more of him. I think Josh,
you put it perfectly when you said he's a worthy
title challenger. It's just not in a way, because
Inoue's a different beast, completely different
beast. No, there's a world -level contender,
but also this is an all -time great. Yeah. Anybody
stepping in there right now at 122 is going to
get fucking smoked, including MJ. But MJ has
a good shot. I think he's got a better shot than
Cardenas did. You know, like, if we got Inoue
Nakatani right now, I'd love to see Cardenas
and Akmedalios. That would be nice. That'd tear
it up. I want to see him versus Leo. Angela Leo.
Yeah. If he moves up to 26. If he does. If he
moves up to 26, yeah. Well, he's got... Because
Leo came up from 22, just like Fulton did. And
I think if Inouye comes up to 126, I think Fulton
moves up. Fulton doesn't want that again. I don't
think he wants to get in the ring again with
the fucking monster. I didn't even do good the
first time. At least with Donair, you're like,
okay, Donair had a good fight, good goal the
first time. Nope. Nuh -uh. MJ's next though,
right? I believe they said in the post -fight
interview. Unfortunately. It's MJ what? MJ then
Nakatani, right? Yeah, I believe so. The Nakatani
fight, I think, is agreed in principle. Yes.
Yes. Let's hope he wins. Let's hope we can get
a press pass. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Japanese boxing
promoters, if you listen to this English podcast,
please give us press passes. Yeah, like we have
people out there. I try to. If I can get a point
of contact, I can start badgering. If I can.
If I can badger the right people, I think we
can make it happen. Yes, sir. It'll just take
a little bit of buttering. Go to some of the
lower cards at Korakuen. Listen, man. We're giving
all the positive coverage possible. There's no
way we could give bad coverage of that. Except
Turkey. They'll get bad coverage from Turkey.
Unless Turkey promotes it, in which case, yeah,
no. It's only bad coverage for you. Forever.
You signed a deal with the devil. Forever. Oh,
yeah. Anything more for Inouye? He saved the
boxing weekend. He did. I'll be honest, dude.
He saved the boxing year so far. Yeah. Yeah,
actually, that's true because, you know what?
For, like, a couple weeks, we were just saying,
like, this little weekend was going to be a,
you know, a good boxing weekend. It was going
to be elite. I thought it was going to be an
elite weekend. Fuck, though. We won't accept
one day. It's the end of the day for leaders.
Top ring strikes again. The old dog doesn't lose
new shots, but you know what? The broken clock
is still right twice a day. Oh, man. Oh, Bobby.
Love Bobby. Oh, Bob Aaron, bro. Still at it.
Still got it. He still got it. Actually, I got
a question. Do you think Inouye becomes more
popular because of that fight in the United States?
Yeah, you got the highlights. That fight's a
fun fucking... Like, always having a fun fight
with a bunch of highlights. is conducive to getting
a bigger profile. Although with Inouye, I feel
like if you like boxing in any capacity, you
know. Absolutely. You know who he is. Anybody
should know who he is. If you like boxing, you
have someone who... I'll tell you, if Inouye
was a stinker this weekend, though, ten times
worse, honestly, if Inouye was also a stinker.
I mean, imagine four, not just three, but four...
for Kerr, Stevenson, Edwin, and Los Santos -type
fights on the same weekend. Oh, my God. I would
honestly have to, like, kiss the ass of the UFC
people. Like, at least, like, one little kiss
on the cheek. Probably on the left. It's really
specific. You know what? You know, for the people
that also watch the UFC podcast, a certain podcast
guy named Isaac. been podcasting with Isaac.
In the chat, he actually said that he thought
that Canelo was going to knock out Skull. And
it was a serve. It's a fair observation if you
didn't know how most Cuban fighters fight. Well,
no, I'm just saying that just to fuck around
with Isaac. Be silly. I can't believe you thought
that, bro. I forgot something he had said about
Jaime Munguia and Bruno Sarras. He had said that
Munguia needs to get it back. Because that was
a really bad knockout. That was a really bad
knockout. This doesn't cut it. This isn't a good
enough win to say... I think it's any win. Any?
I think for that type of loss where it was just
a freak knockout where, like, you literally just
didn't have your hands up at all, like, yeah.
Any win is fine. I agree. Any win is fine. Because
it's not like Saras outclassed him or anything.
He just won by one shot. He was getting outclassed.
And then he got the good shot. Yeah. All right.
Now, anything more for Inouye? Because it's pretty
light. I was expecting that those two cards...
Fight of the year. Fight of the year. Pro box
good. Pro box good. Pro box good. Pro box for
life, bro. Fuck Turkey. Pro box for life. No
more fights Saturday, I hope. Hopefully. Previews.
May 12th through the 17th. On Wednesday, this
will be starting at about 1, 2 in the morning
on the West Coast. This is No Limit in Australia.
Really, the only name on here is Sam Goodman
versus Cesar Roca. Yeah. That's it. Hey, no,
no, no. Hold on. Johnny Fisher and Dave Allen.
The White Rhino's still at it. We'll get there.
Oh, right. Let's do this card. I was like, hold
on. I thought you were talking about all the
previews. No, no. Just wanted to mention Sam
Goodman for the sake of reminding people that
he dropped the ball on Inouye twice. You fucking
could have been hella paid. Hella paid to die.
Yeah, but he decided to keep hard sparring as
the fight closed in. Moving to the 17th, Saturday.
Matchroom in Middlesex. This was in the UK. Johnny
Fisher versus David Allen. Good stuff. I don't
know. I like two fat guys beating the shit out
of each other. I heard it put some... There's
a big... Big boys bumping beef. Basically. Well,
the first fight, did you watch the first fight?
Yes. Yeah, okay. I think it's going to go exactly
the same, minus the result. Alan's going to get
it this time? Yeah, just because they're going
to give Fisher another chance. It's not going
to happen, and they're actually going to give
it to Alan. Because if he doesn't get, if he
doesn't stop Allen in two tries, like, what are
we doing here? Yeah, Johnny Fisher will relegate
himself to... Being the new David Allen. Yeah.
Does David Allen retire off of this win? The
Bosch? Fuck no, he's got, he's got, like, he's
got, like, one more in him. One more embarrassing
loss. When you put it like that. I mean, they've
all been embarrassing. Also on the card, Kieran
Conway versus Jerome Warburton and George Litteret
versus Aaron Sutton. There's other stuff. I don't
really care that much. Sorry. Yeah. This is a
card that is free for a reason. Yep. They're
all free. Except fucking for the turkey shit,
which I had to pay for. Marv Nation. Yep, moving
on. Marv Nation, same day. This one is in Thunder
Studios, Long Beach, California. There's a bunch
of shit on this one as well. The only thing I
really care about, Fernando Vargas Jr. vs. Gonzalo
Correa. So that's fun. Fernando better fucking
win this. If this is who I remember, the Gonzalo
guy, it shouldn't be too bad. Yeah. Let's see,
do I recognize him? Oh yeah, he lost to Munguia
in three rounds. Yeah. Hopefully Vargas wins.
Yeah. I'd like to see Vargas on something that
isn't Marv Nation. Yeah. His other previous fight,
Lizarraga, that was a stinker. I think Fernando
Vargas should get this done pretty handily. Oh
yeah. Moving to 360 Promotions is the last card
on the weekend. From the bottom up, Omar Trinidad
versus Alexandra Espinoza. That's a featherweight
fight. Mizuki Hiruta, a .k .a. Mimi. She's the
anime -looking chick. Has all the weird costumes
and stuff. I actually like the costumes. I do,
too. It's fun. Pretty cool, yeah. And that's
for the WBO Super Flyweight title. Oh, shit.
I think Gabby's getting in your neighborhood
there. Gabby, Gabby. Gabby, Gabby. Yeah, Gabby's
one division below. Well, you know what? It'd
be a good fight. I don't mind it. Yeah. Definitely,
like... In Fundora, like, it's a good, like,
70 -30 in Fundora's ballpark. But not much competition
for Fundora, so. Yeah. No, it should be fine.
And Sergey Bohochuk versus Mikhail Fox. That
should be a good time. Is this the Mikhail Fox
I'm thinking of? Probably. It is. He fought the
UFC. Yeah, that's the one I remember. He also
fought Shoja Han and Ergachev, if you remember
him. Yeah. But how much do you want to fight
like this with a card? It's kind of sad they
screwed him over. Well, that's what happens when
you sign with a lower level. Yeah, you got to
make better choices in your management. So I'm
curious, how would you sign with a big promoter?
Do you like Pohachuk? How he has, I don't know
how his deal is structured, but pretty much wait
it out or fight it out. Yeah, like, I mean, I'm
sure, like, not here. Like, I feel like Probox
is perfect. This is like the perfect Probox moment.
It would be nice if 360 got off a fucking fight
pass. Yeah. God. Like, if you have to pick between
360 or ProBucks, like... I'm watching ProBucks.
ProBucks, you're guaranteed getting another shot
sometime if you keep going. 360... Like, he would
whip some ass on ProBucks and then get another
shot. And if not, ProBucks doesn't pay that bad.
Probably better than 360 promotions, I think.
Yeah, because you're living off of UFC residuals
at that point. You were cooked. Not Freddie Roach.
Lamar Roach was from Provox. Yep. He beat Tank
Davis. Provox good. In fact, Cardenas was a Provox
guy. We just saw. Angelo Lea was a world champion.
Exactly. Wasn't O... Who else was a Pro... No,
Oshaki Fox was a Showbox guy. Not a Provox guy.
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For the outro stuff, parting words. Fuck Turkey.
I love Bob. ProBuck's good. ProBuck's good. Fuck
Turkey. I prefer BLTs. No more bullshit in Saudi
Arabia. I don't want to see any more fucking
Riyadh bullshit. Could you guys buy out a different
sport, man? Like, go buy baseball or something.
Honestly, the thing is that they give us a lot
of shit, but they give us... It's just shit.
It's not giving us a lot of shit. It's just shit.
They're giving us shit. than give it a shit.
It's horrible. It is downright horrendous. Let's
go, Bobby. Let's go, Ali. I love them. They should
work together more. Fuck Turkey, bro. Also, fuck
Ryan for losing to Rolly Romero. I love Ryan,
but what the hell are you doing, man? Come on.
What are we doing? Yeah. All right. If that's
all you got. And that's all for this edition
of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll see you on the
other side of fucking Meanie Hiruta. That's the
one I'm going with. Yeah.