This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing
Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.
Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.
Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This
is Boxing Before Dark. Oh, shit. Boxing Before
Dark. We're back, bitches. Shanada, how are you
doing out there and JP? I'm good, I'm good. It's
Golden Week this week, so I have to work because
my experiment plan didn't give me a time off,
but everybody else gets four days off. What's
Golden Week for? It's just that there's randomly
two holidays together. So, actually, there's
kind of three. The 29th... is Emperor Showa,
so I think like three emperors ago, two emperors
ago. It's his birthday, the 29th of April, and
then the first weekend in May, the Monday -Tuesday,
is a holiday. One is Sports Day, and one is Green
Day. So Sports Day, you go outside and play sports,
and Green Day, you go appreciate nature. It's
basically a long weekend while the weather's
nice. Because in the summer, it's too hot. So
they don't just play American Idiot over and
over on Green Day? I would love that. They're
going to blast it in the lab all weekend. Oh,
shit. Well, let's get right into it. Fucking
Manny Pacquiao is making a comeback versus Mario
Barrios. This is fucking ridiculous. Absolutely
ridiculous. I'm sorry, how old is Pacquiao these
days? 45? When was his last fight? Like six years
ago? I think... When did he fight Ugas? I think
it was six years ago now. 2019? Before COVID?
Was Ugas before COVID? Or was it during COVID?
I thought it was after. I gotta go look it up
now. Yeah, I was about to do the same. 2021.
You're right. So four years ago. Still. He lost.
He lost and a four year hiatus and you get a
championship fight? Bullshit. Makes perfect sense.
Bullshit. Mauricio is fucking smoking some something.
I mean, man, he's a draw. I get that it's about
money, but goddamn. Last time he looked good
was 2019. That was his last good fight. Yeah,
it's been six years since a win, and he gets
a title fight? It's ridiculous. Yeah. Everybody
is like, well, George Foreman came back and did
it, but George did it the way you're supposed
to. He went back on the grind and earned his
way up to a title shot. These guys should not
be getting title shots off of losses or coming
out of retirements or anything else. It's ridiculous.
Only situation I could see where coming out of
retirement is enough to get a title fight would
be if you, like Tyson Fury, you retire. No, those
fake retirements. Yeah, those half -ass, like
you're only gone for like a year tops. That's
not a real retirement, though. That's just lying
in the press and taking a normal hiatus break.
Like one year is pretty standard. Well, not standard,
but pretty common. Yeah. Not fucking four years
coming off a loss. Yeah. And I mean, everyone
talks about the Keith Thurman fight. Like he
won. Yeah, he won. But everyone acts like it
was this massive sweep like he did to Adrian
Broner. Like Broner got his ass beat. Just pillar
to post. But Keith Thurman got knocked down.
And then otherwise was pretty competitive. Yeah,
I do think Manny won that fight. He did. But
it was a close fight for sure. Yeah, but people
act like it wasn't. And then Ugas was... That
was like the tipping point. Because after that,
Ugas was competitive. But he was clearly showing
his age. He was not the same guy he used to be.
And he loses. I don't see this going much better.
The only thing is that Barrios isn't all that
awesome. Barrios is the weakest champion for
sure. Which is the only reason Manny's trying
this. But Manny's just too old. Right. His whole
thing was speed. And he's not fast anymore. He's
46 years old. 46? 46. He's a whole decade older
than I am. What was the thing? Somebody sent
a screenshot of Reddit and it was two posts.
One saying Manny was coming for this title shot
and the post directly under that was 16 years
since Manny beats Hatton. Yeah, sweet juxtaposition.
Fucking ridiculous. I don't know. I don't...
I don't... Official fucking signature of in the
no column for this one. I don't want to see it.
Don't need Manny Pacquiao back. No. Because this
is like a no -win situation. You beat Mario Barrios.
Congratulations. You've got the easiest belt
out of the three champions there are. You got
the easy one. Now you've got a huge target on
your back and somebody's going to beat the living
piss out of you. Brian Norman or Boots. Yeah,
nobody wants to see Pacquiao versus Boots. No,
I absolutely do not. That's like elder abuse.
This is a Del Boy situation. Like, I like Matty
Pacquiao, but I do not want him to win if he
does fight. Yeah, and that's the other part of
the no -win situation, is he loses to Mario Barrios.
I guess it's... What the fuck? It can't be that
much worse than Ugas, but... Well, and just imagine
you're Mario Barrios. You get to say you beat
Matty Pacquiao. Yeah, and... You just got to
hope that nobody stops to think about... What
year it is? Yeah. Because, like, the 16 years
since Ricky Hatton, that... How old was Barrios
at the time? 10? Well, how old is Barrios now?
He was 13. He's the Aztec, right? Yeah. He was
13 years old when... Manny is 16 years older
than Barrios? 29 to 46? Yeah. 17? 17 years. Barrios
could literally be his son and it would only
be slightly scandalous. Yeah. Like, as having
a kid in grade 12. Excellent. Fucking ridiculous.
Why? Why are they letting him do this? Why did
Nevada clear him? Why did Suleiman allow this
to happen? This is boxing corruption at its finest.
This is where I would cue that song that... He
goes, money, money, money, money, money. Oh,
no. Yep. That's the only reason. There's no other
reason. There's no valid reason otherwise. Well,
and, like, he doesn't deserve the shot. No. Take
everything else out. He just doesn't deserve
it right now. Like, somebody is getting screwed
under their chance. at the easy belt. Although
I guess if they get to fight whoever wins, it's
probably still an easy win. Yeah. I mean, Barrios
isn't going to get any better and Manny's not
going to get any younger. So whoever has the
belt after this fight is still going to be the
weakest champion. But Manny Pacquiao in 2025.
Fuck. What is going on? Well, on that note, I
am opening my holiday beer. Yeah. Fuck. It was
the best of times. It was the worst of times.
It was mostly just the worst of times. You know
who's having a worst time? Sebastian Fundoro.
Yeah, I saw they stripped him. That's unfortunate.
Stripped him for... What was it you had said?
So they ordered that he fight Xander Zayas, and
he is declining that, dropping the belt for the
Tim Zhu rematch. So Xander's going to fight someone
for a vacant belt, I assume? Oh yeah, I didn't
think to look up who that was. Yeah, I'm about
to. I mean, the Tim Zhu rematch needs to happen,
I guess. But I'm a little worried about Tim Zhu
after seeing his last two performances. He still
looks scared. And if Fundora cuts him again,
he's going to just mentally implode, I think.
If he gets cut again, he probably will. But he
does deserve his shot at... at his revenge because
that was not a fair fight that first one and
i i've complained about it at length but the
corner screwed him the doctor screwed him everybody
screwed him in that fight the the wbo site isn't
working it's no no it's and maybe it's just me
Let me check. WBOboxing .com Nope. It just says
Teezy in the top corner. Somebody misspelled
Tess. I have it bookmarked. Or it's one of those
weird Gen Alpha bullshit things. Tess is too
normal. Give it a little Teezy. Tessie? Give
it a little Tessie. I see probably more what
they were going for. What weight class is that?
54. Which is Walter? Super Walter. Or Junior
Middle. Okay, so WBO is vacant. Zayas is 1. Perez
is 2, maybe? The guy who beat Charles Conwell?
I'm not sure. This seems to be an amalgamation
of the rankings that I found. Xander Zayas next.
Boxing scene has him. Yeah, the guy who just
beat Cordell, not Cordell Booker, Charles Conwell
is number two. Yeah, Boxing News 24 -7, whatever
that is. Says it's Jorge Perez for the vacant
WBO has been ordered. Yep. Makes sense. Team
Zeus number three. How can you not... How is
that not a sufficient title defense? I have no
idea. Because Cordell Booker was a fucking mandatory.
What is happening? They don't want Fundora to
have that belt. That's all it is. It's strictly
politics. They don't like Fundora being the champion
there. Whatever Bob orders. The WBO belongs to
top rank. They are screwing Fundora on this one,
I think. Yeah, absolutely. Because I agree. Kim
Zoo's ranked high enough. He should count as
a defense. Yeah. I mean, if he's third. According
to the Tessie site, he's third. What more do
you want? Yeah, I don't... They want Fandora
out, I guess. Yeah, because you've got to give
it to Xander Zayas, who's a top -ranked fighter.
It's not like they aren't going to make money
on that Tim Zhu rematch, too. Probably more than
they would with Xander Zayas, if Fandora fought
him. I bet you they want Xander to fight for
a belt on Puerto Rico weekend in New York. But
then he beats Xander Zayas' ass? When is the
Puerto Rico parade? I just know it's in June.
Yeah, that's probably what they're doing. They
stripped Fundora so that Xander Zayas can fight
for a belt. in new york on puerto rico weekend
because he's the only puerto rican that's famous
right now in boxing and he's fighting a mexican
people love that yeah people gobble it up i i
used to love that rivalry stuff there's not much
of a rivalry right now not at the moment but
but i bet you that's what it is It's all so that
the Puerto Rico Day Parade fights have a belt
on the line. Just so happens the belt in question
is the one that Top Rank always has. Well, it
makes it easier to take it away from people.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why... Boxing politics
doesn't like Fundora. I know he's probably not
the strongest champion. He kind of got lucky
with that cut to get the belt and things, but
he's a likable kid. He has no major scandals
that I know of. He's entertaining. Nobody's ever
said that Fundora's a boring fight. People should
like him. Yeah, he's always entertaining. Whether,
for better or worse, given his attributes. That's
part of what I mean, though. Like, I don't see
any reason for promoters to dislike him. I guess
he doesn't shit talk very much. Too much of that,
anyways. He's a polite person. Yeah, I guess
that's too boring for... Too boring for boxing
these days? We need more heels. Like Ben Whitaker?
Gross. I've taken myself off of the Ben Whitaker
train. I don't like him. I wasn't a huge fan
to start with, and after that... injury. Big
quotes on injury. I fucking hate them now. Yeah.
That's what it was. The fake injury was pretty
bad. To my fault, I was like, I can overlook
this just to continue propping up the guy who's
gets everybody all riled up because he dances
around a lot. Yeah, but I don't like that anyways.
He was already a heel in my eyes. Yeah, I was
willing to overlook the injury thing, but then
you're benefiting from another shitty stoppage
and you're acting like you just beat this guy's
ass when you fucking didn't. Well, and he fucking
whined and complained. about the crowd booing
him. Have you tried not being an asshole? Just
an idea. Yeah, he's not coming back from that
fake injury. No chance. Maybe he can start dancing
again. Wow, I hope his ankle's okay. You never
know with those kinds of things. It'd be permanent
damage. Permanent damage. Segway into MJ Akhmadaliv
fighting Inouye in September. Agreed in principle,
as you put it. Yeah, so boxing scene has a quote
from Inouye, or I assume his interpreter. That's
the only thing that's written in stone, Inoue
said. In terms of my future, the next fight is
in September with MJ, but that's as far as it
goes in the context of what's under contract.
So it sounds like they've signed the contract,
the fight's going to happen, and the rumors are
it's going to be in September. I don't know where,
though. I imagine that would be in Tokyo. At
the Tokyo Dome. Yeah, I don't... MJ is one of
the few that's kind of famous -famous, though.
They might want Inoue back in the States. Eh.
I mean, I'd prefer if it's in Tokyo. Yeah. I'm
sure everybody in Japan would prefer it's in
Tokyo. Everybody's still, uh, well... My friends
are slight degenerates, so it's also not a good
subsection of people to use as the normal. But
everybody's waking up early and the bar is opening
at 9 a .m. And we're all going to be there at
9 a .m. to watch In A Way in Vegas. Making it
work? Yeah. They did open today at 9 a .m. as
well and tomorrow. So, like, this whole weekend,
9 a .m. at the bar. But I'm not going into Tokyo
three days in a row. That's too much effort.
That is a lot. It's only an hour and a half on
the train, but the waking up early and being
dressed in a human, nah, too much. Did you say
being dressed in human? Yeah. I can be not dressed
and hardly awake in my house to watch this stuff.
You could be a gremlin. Yeah. Especially when
it's hot out, I hang around in very little clothes
in my house all the time. And if it's boring...
I can have a nap. You can fall asleep. I wonder
what that would be like. I have fallen asleep
at the bar before. One of those Sony cards, I
just put my head down on the bar and had a nap.
I asked the guy beside me to wake me up when
they did the ring walks. I think it was a Bevo,
better be a, if I recall correctly. Yeah. Yeah.
It was a six -hour card that started at 1 a .m.
And they decided to take a long -ass break? Yeah.
I had an hour nap, and I legit didn't miss anything.
Somebody was playing darts beside me and woke
me up when they got a bullseye. I am excited
for Inouye to finally fight MJ. People will have
to shut up about him being a duck. I don't know
why they think that Inouye is the one ducking,
but I see it on forums all the time. The price
of success is the goalposts are always going
to move. It doesn't matter. He could be fighting
MJ now, and there would still be some other guy
that he's ducking. Like, I'll say, like, Picasso
or Sam Goodman or something stupid like that.
But there's always someone. Or, like, he's ducking
the guys at 126. Like, he's just fighting bums,
and he won't move up because he's ducking the
real challenges. The expecting everybody to move
up a million weight classes is ridiculous. People
didn't do that back in the day. Like, Marvin
Hagler only fought at one weight class, and nobody
complained. Triple G fought one weight class.
Nobody complained. Exactly. Like, I don't understand
why everybody thinks, oh, if you're good and
you're small, you need to run up six weight classes.
How about... The 126 guys, if they're so awesome,
why don't they move down? Yeah. I mean, eventually
Inouye is going to meet people that are just
too big. Yeah, I think that's what people want.
They want to find his ceiling so that they can
say, see, he's not that good. Well, fuck him.
He is that good. Yeah, exactly. It's ridiculous.
Oh, well, his frame's big. He can go up another
weight class. His frame is not big, by the way.
He is tiny. Oh, well, he walks around at 140,
so he should be able to fight up to 135. Like,
bullshit. No. And also, in these really small
weight classes, the height difference becomes
a big thing. Like, how tall is he in a way? I
think he's only 5 '4". 5 '4". And even taking
out Espinoza, that's just like a... He's an outlier.
Right, right. But what are the other guys up
at 126? They're all like 5 '6", 5 '8". Robisi,
I think, is closer in size. Robisi? I almost
spelled his name wrong. 5 '6". Okay, two inches
isn't that bad. But he's also, I think he might
be an outlier as well. Because he's kind of small.
Brandon Figueroa is 5 '9". That's five inches.
That's a lot of reach. And his arms are probably
longer. Fulton is 5 '6". Oh, they're not as tall
as I thought they were. Yeah. I guess I can't
complain about the height. But still, eventually
he's just going to go up against people who are
too big. Angelo Leo's 5 '6". Neri is 5 '5". Okay.
Yeah. I take it back. I take it back. The height's
not a problem. Yeah. 126 is doable, but there's
really no need to rush. I also wonder if Inouye
is actually... He lists himself as 5 '5". I don't
think he's 5 '5". I would say it's safe to subtract
one or two with everyone. The reach is listed
as like 146 inches. Maybe dial down the exaggeration
a little bit. Yeah. On BoxRec, they have his
reach at 171, which is, what, 5 '8"? Is that
in centimeters? That is in centimeters, yeah.
67 and a half inches. That's 5 '7 and a half.
Yeah. No, it's not. Anyway. Everybody lies on
those things. Yeah, just like everyone says MJ,
or Inouye's ducking MJ. Everybody lies about
that too. God. Well, they're going to have to
find a new lie here soon. I am certain. Well,
my money, it's going to be that he's not moving
up. He's ducking the 126 guys. Oh, 100%. I think
you're correct. If he's fighting MJ next, I hope
Nakatani is after that, which is what they said,
I think. Nakatani in December. In Tokyo. And
if that happens, I am buying a ticket. Oh, good
luck with that one. Sure. I'll get one. Maybe
not. Maybe I won't. Positive mental attitude.
Because the first time I tried with the lottery,
every time I've tried with the lottery, I have
not gotten a ticket. But maybe I can get one
of the old boys at the bar to apply for a ticket
for me. That would probably work better. Because
you can order up to four when you place your
lottery application. So if they don't have their
four completely stacked out. I also have a friend.
I have a couple friends I can ask. So you'll
have several options? Yeah, well, and I'll put
their names on my lotteries as well. Recent cards.
Boxer first? Yeah. Ben Whittaker. But this is
the end of Ben Whittaker. At least this is the
end of my support of Ben Whittaker. And this
is any... semblance of a chance of him being
a top -level guy. He's fucking finished. I think
this is... I was never on the Whitaker train.
I just don't like his attitude. And that fake
injury fucking pissed me off to no end. And Cameron
won that first fight, or was winning that first
fight, in my opinion. Yeah, that's why he faked
the injury. He got the benefit of a shitty decision
to call it a technical draw. Yeah, ridiculous.
And this time he gets a Brit stoppage. That was
crazy. Like, that was an out -of -nowhere stoppage.
He was putting it on, but... That was definitely
way too early. It was the second round. Yeah.
Cameron wasn't that hurt. No, that's what I mean.
He had gotten tagged, but he was not stoppage
level hurt. Nor was he getting hit to that cleanly
that much. Should we start calling British stoppages,
calling them Brexits? Yes. I just... Everything
about this fight was kind of ass. Yeah. I do
think Whitaker probably would have won if it
kept on. Like, he was looking better than Cameron
this fight. But him getting the benefit of the
stoppage early and... I'm all for stopping fights
before boxers take too much damage, but Cameron
wasn't damaged yet. No, he wasn't. Like, I don't
know. I just, that was, that was set up to make
Whitaker look better than he is. And everybody
knows it. And everybody knows that injury was
fake too. He got booed on the way in and then
he complained about getting booed. Dude, if you're
going to be an asshole and clown on people, own
it. Yeah. Like, if you're going to play the heel,
play the heel. But don't whine like a little
bitch when people don't like you. Yeah, that's
kind of what you were going for, wasn't it? With
the dancing stuff, you were going for rubbing
people the wrong way. See, I think... In his
head that was coming off as cool and not asshole.
Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, okay. I
see what you mean. I don't think he realized
he was playing the heel when he was dancing and
clowning on Journeyman. He really thought people
were like, wow, I want to be like him. I do think
that's what he thought. I think that's what he
was going for. Was, oh man, this guy's so cool
and so good that he makes everyone else look
stupid. Instead of everybody realizing it's just
fucking disrespectful. Yeah. Anyways, he's also
a little bitch. He faked an injury. to get out
of it, and he complained when he got booed. Frazier
Clark gets a quick stoppage over former Dillian
White opponent Ebenezer Teta. I don't know if
that's a good title to have, if that's your claim
to fame. He took Dillian White to seven. And
Frazier Clark gets him out in the first round.
That's... To me, that's... It's making a statement.
It's good. Yeah, it's good for Frazier. That's
how you're supposed to do it. I'm also glad to
see that he wasn't scared after having his head
broken. Because that injury in the... No, wait.
Am I doing it backwards? Fabio Wardley was...
The Joff one was the second one. The first one
was the nose flatten. Yeah, yeah. Fraser Clark
is mentally very tough. If somebody broke my
head like that, I would not get back in the ring
and stand there and let people punch me. Would
you perhaps run around the ring a lot? Perhaps.
Even against a subpar opponent? Perhaps. Perhaps.
Perhaps. I might look like a certain boxer who
fought earlier today. I wonder who would do that.
A little bitch like Shanada. I don't know if
he's a little bitch for it. Sam Eggington gets
his fight stopped on a cut. They were in the
eighth round, so they went to the cards, and
he got the UD. I know what no one can call Sam
Egginton a little bitch. That man takes damage.
Yeah, I I'm actually sad to see he's still fighting.
I really think he's his brain is mush. This is
another I wish he'd have lost. Yeah, it would
be probably to his benefit if he did. I I get
him and Cheeseman mixed up. I do, though. They're
like the same person in my head. And I know one
of them has really bad gambling habits. And that's
why he comes back to boxing all the time. But
I'm not sure if it's Eggington or Cheeseman.
It's Josh confused Cheeseman and Eggington as
well when I mentioned them. They're basically
the same person. It has to be Eggington, because
Cheeseman hasn't fought since 2021. Oh, they
finally got him to stop? No, but it is Cheeseman
I was thinking of. Cheeseman has lost hundreds
of thousands through gambling addiction. I don't
know why Eggington keeps coming back. It's the
only thing he knows how to do. It's not just
me. Because I typed in Eggington and gambling
and the top hit is Cheeseman lost hundreds of
thousands gambling. The whole world confuses
these two men. I gotta see. They don't particularly
even look alike. They're just the same person.
Yeah, it's just the same person. It doesn't matter
that they're... They look very different. Eggington's
all tattooed. But their careers are almost the
same. Like, their fighting styles are both terrible
for themselves. Yeah, bad for their health. Their
accents are fucking atrocious. West Midlands?
I don't know. I don't know British accents that
well. I can't. copy them but like hard to understand
british accent from i don't know if he's from
a small town but i associate it with rural poor
people anyways the boxer card was what it was
it wasn't super exciting i don't think especially
not when the main and co -main end so fast and
it was a it was just a matter of seeing like
what happened with whittaker was he really messed
up or not he got bailed out by the politics yeah
he did i don't think that answered any questions
for me other than is whittaker really a bitch
yes would it be better if he didn't act like
a little bitch afterwards yes it would be because
like we always i always blame the fighter benefiting
from crappy politics when they probably have
very little to do with it. I think they don't.
Yeah, but I also generally try not to attack
the fighter, but I just don't like Ben Whittaker.
His attitude is terrible. His personality is
awful. So, any reason I have to dislike him,
I'll take it. If a fighter I like benefits from
shit like that, I don't say anything. Consistency.
I have never claimed to be impartial. Not once.
Moving to Eubank Jr. vs. Connor Ben. Some fun
stuff. This card kind of sucked. Yeah. In my
opinion. I liked the Anthony Yard fight. I thought
that one was fun. It was okay. I know I watched
the whole thing, but the British fights are literally
in the middle of the night for me, and I don't
remember anything. I missed Chris Billum -Smith.
Heard he did well. Glanton was competitive, but
it was really clear for CBS. Yes. Yeah, okay.
I do remember now that I look at their faces.
Yeah, Glanton tried. He was there to give an
honest effort. Like, he didn't just shell up
or anything. But CBS was just better. Yeah. I'm
kind of glad to see that he isn't broken after
that ass -kicking. Oh. Like, Zerto beat the fuck
out of him. He did get a cut in the same -ish
spot. as he had from the Zerto fight. So I wonder
if that's not going to be a problem for him going
forward. Hmm. What would it look like if he was
broken from his previous fight? I just... You
know, some guys... Lateral movement? Yeah. You
know, some guys are just scared to get hit. Yeah.
Even when their opponent isn't that good. Yeah,
I have to say Brandon Glanton was not as bad
as I thought he would be. Like, I didn't know
who he was, but people on the Discord chat while
the fights were on, they all knew who he was.
But to me, he was just some random American.
Was he American? Pretty sure. Yeah. He's like
from the army or something, isn't he? Or he played
football. He played football professionally.
And then switched to boxing. But CBS just out
-skilled him. Just all around better. He looked
good. I am happy about that. I kind of like CBS.
He seems like a decent guy. You know who didn't
look very good? It was Liam Smith. That made
me really sad. I like Liam Smith. He's my favorite
of the Smith brothers. But I think he's just
getting a little old. Yeah, that's exactly what
it is. He's going to go in and he's going to
give it a good effort. And this is a hard one
because he doesn't look completely washed. He
just looks like he's not that good anymore. You
know what I mean? Like Manny Pacquiao and his
last outing? Yeah, exactly. liam smith doesn't
take that much damage usually he's not he's not
one of those guys that seems like he's getting
screwed over fighting too long like he seems
like he's still healthy and everything yeah but
he also seems like he just he's not gonna do
anything spectacular anymore and i kind of just
want him to retire and be happy but i'm not worried
about his health yet which is usually why i want
people to retire Yeah. Yeah, that was the thing.
You nailed it. He didn't look terrible. It's
just obvious that he's showing his age. He's
showing the mileage. It's a precarious time because
he could keep going. But do you just want to
have more outings like this where the margin
just gets wider and wider out of your favor?
Yeah, and you just become like, not really a
journeyman, but kind of. Like you're a gatekeeper,
I guess. And you just become a name that people
start putting on their resume. And I don't want
Liam Smith to be that guy. But I hadn't seen
this McKenna kid before, I don't think. He kind
of surprised me. I thought he looked really good.
Yeah, I've seen him a few times. I'm trying to
think of how to put it, but it was a really solid
performance. A lot better than what I've seen
out of him previously. He had shown signs of
it, but this was special. He looked good. Like
I said, Liam Smith didn't look like shit. He
just wasn't as good. I'll have to start watching
this Aaron McKenna. I like Irish fighters usually.
Is he Irish? Although, yeah. I guess he lives
in the States according to BoxRec, but he's Irish.
I'm sure that accent does really well for him.
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Chris Eubank vs. Connor Ben. I was very surprised.
Me too. In a good way. Yes. This fight was not
supposed to be this good. No, it was not. And
so far this year, my fight of the year. Oh, we're
coming up on that time. The half year. The mid
years. There's a couple of those Japanese ones
that I can't think of right now that are probably
also up there. But recency bias included. This
was a fuck of a fight. This was really fun. I
really enjoyed it. And I think it is entirely
because they picked the right weight for it to
be at to make it a fun fight. I think if you'd
have made Eubank weigh in any lower, he would
have not been able to do it. He would have been
drained. Yeah. Well, I just think he didn't make
weight. He made the re -weight, but he didn't
make weight for the day before. But if you let
him, if there had been no rehydration clause,
or if the weight had been slightly higher, or
all these other things, I think Eubank just kicks
the shit out of Conor Benn. He's just bigger.
But whoever set this contract picked the perfect
conditions for this fight. Man, he only missed
weight by eight ounces. Yeah, that's half a pound,
right? Yeah. I'm not good at ounces. And it cost
him literally a million dollars. Half a mil,
but yes, it cost him a lot of money. And it was
.05. Not .5. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I misunderstood
then. No, I misspoke. It was a very small amount.
And he... Yeah, and he ended up losing a shit
ton of money for it. Yep. One interesting thing
I saw after on the internet. So the trunks were
a recreation of the trunks that their dads wore
during their fight. So if you look at old pictures
or rewatch the fight, it's on YouTube. They're
exact replicas of the shorts that their dads
were wearing, which I thought was pretty interesting.
And I should have clicked when Ben had Destroyer
on the back of his shorts because that's not
his nickname. But I didn't click. I saw it later
in an article online. What were your thoughts
on the Eubank -Ben fight? It was entertaining.
It was a lot more entertaining than I could have
possibly expected. What I didn't... What I hope
is that nobody took too much away from it because
it wasn't that high -level chess match kind of
thing. No, it was not. It was not the most talented
fight I've ever seen. Yeah, you shouldn't be
putting either of these guys on your pound -for
-pound list because of this. No, and also, like,
this fight realistically shouldn't have been
happening. They're nowhere near the same weight.
No, they're not. Yeah, like, Ben weighed in 150
-something. Like, he was a few pounds off. Yeah,
I think he was 157, maybe. Yeah, 157. That sounds
right. Ugh, Connor Ben spells his name wrong.
What, 1N? Yeah, well, he took 1N out of his first
name and put it on his last name. Yeah, Ben weighed
in at 156 .5, and Eubank Jr. is listed at 160,
but he missed it by whatever you said, like half
an ounce. Yeah. Which is crazy. Anything more
for Eubank? Oh, there was a rematch clause both
ways. Oh, fun. Yeah, so... Rumor is that Ben
wants to activate it. I don't know if I need
to see it again. Yeah, I don't think... I don't
feel like I need to. The rematch isn't going
to be as good. No. Like... I just... This was
way better than I expected, and I would like
them to just leave it alone. Having it at the
soccer stadium there was also kind of cool. It
was packed. It was packed, and the crowd was
in it. The atmosphere was great. If anybody missed
it, it's worth going and watching. Even if you
know who wins, it's an all action. Like they
met in the middle of the ring multiple times
and just swung, which is what I like. It's not
a technical high level fight or anything. It's
just fucking fun. Yeah. It's just two dudes beating
each other up. Ben has a chin. Yes. Ben has a
fuck of a chin. And Eubank, the weight. requirements
were hard on eubank you can tell he started a
little slow he got rocked a couple times and
he didn't do real good in those middle rounds
and yeah really fun i think the right guy won
i also just don't like connor ben but people
should go watch it it was competitive but it
was really clear like the cards came out eight
to four eight to four and I think one of them
was 7 -5, and that to me was a lot closer than
it should have been. Yeah, it was clear that
Eubank won, I think, but it was still fun. Yes,
absolutely. I don't know how else to describe
it. It was just a really fun fight. If you like
people monging out, like... This is your jam.
And this is why I would much rather watch two
mid -level guys who aren't that good fight than
some fucking master class of technique and skill
and all that stuff. Shepard Stevenson? Fucking
boring as hell. Just, no. But, I am also not
a high class person. I like when they do... degrade
into just fist fights this was this was a great
fight it was entirely worth me staying up in
the middle of the night to watch and i wasn't
100 sure it was gonna be and i think in japan
it cost me like 2000 yen which is 17 bucks american
or something yeah yeah totally worth it I will
complain that this weekend, everywhere else in
the world seems to get a bundle on DAZN with
the Times Square and Canelo cards. I don't get
to bundle them, but they are cheap. So, I mean,
I think I'm still paying less than everybody
else, but there was no double -header deal for
me. I think the bundle option was $120. Yeah,
and it's still much cheaper for me buying them
both separately, but there was no bundle deal.
Yeah. I think here they're each about $30. Yikes.
That is how much they cost individually. Yeah,
but you have to remember that they start, like
the undercard starts at like 7 a .m. Oh, right.
That part always does escape me. So, like, I'm
setting alarms and waking up early to watch these
fights on my holiday weekend. But worth it. Well,
actually, the card today was not worth it, but
we'll talk about that next week. Yeah, that was
not. Moving to some stuff coming up. I forgot
to get the info on that one. Top rank. Where
are we starting? I'm kind of looking at it. I
don't recognize most of these names. Giovanni
Santillan will be fun to see where he's at. I
do recognize his name. He's the guy who fought
Brian Norman for the title. Should I know who
Angel Beltran is? I don't think so. This is a
huge side tangent, but do you remember Angel
Manfredi? I remember the name. Yeah, yeah. That's
all. So I didn't realize that his last name was
Manfredi. I thought his nickname was Angel Man
and his first name was Freddy. And I did not
realize this until we watched the Arturo Gatti
fight on YouTube because they give you the titles
on YouTube. But my entire childhood, I've seen
that fight multiple times. I've seen Angel Man
Freddy fight multiple times. I thought his nickname
was Angel Man and his first name was Freddy.
I mean, that is pretty cool. name to have. It's
still stupid, but yeah. It is a little silly,
yes, but it's alright. It's like misheard lyrics,
I guess. Who did Giovanni fight last time? If
I recall correctly, it was Brian Norman. I don't...
He's had one fight since then that I didn't see.
But yes, Brian Norman is the one I was thinking
of. Oh, and then you fought Frederick Lawson.
In Phoenix. Yeah, I'm about to check what card
that is. Yeah, I got snubbed. Happens to me a
lot. Ix. I do not recognize this Angel guy, but
his picture isn't very good on BoxRec either.
Angelman Beltran? I kind of hope Santillan looks
good. Yeah, hopefully. But I do like upsets as
well. For the interim IBF lightweight title,
who's the lightweight champion right now? Lomachenko
still? Can't be, is it? I think he still is,
even though he's a year inactive. That's ridiculous.
Has Lomachenko only been gone a year? Yeah. Crazy.
Seems way longer than that. But Ray Moritaya
versus Zaur Abdullaev. Is it Abdullaev? Yes.
No, he's Armenian. No. Also, that's not what
I was saying yes to. Vasily Lomachenko is the
IBF World Lightweight Champion. Of course he
is. Ridiculous. This must be, yeah, you said
it's for the intro. Yep. I like cheering for
the guys who are in weird, or from weird countries.
But Murataya should win this, right? I think
so. BoxRec has them at 5th and 6th. In the IBF
rankings, they are 4th and 2nd. So, evenly matched,
I guess, which is good. Abdullov is originally
Russian as well. Oh, okay. He lives in Armenia
now, but he's Russian. I see. Yeah, I'm going
to have to cheer for the American on this one,
I think. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate,
you call it. But whoever wins, Lomachenko's retired.
Yeah, it's enough of the games. Stop holding
up the belts. IBFC is really, really good about
stripping people, too. I'm kind of surprised.
Yeah, I am too. And in the main event, WBO 130
title, Emmanuel Navarrete versus Charlie Suarez.
I love Navarrete. Yeah. I think he should win
this pretty fast. Handily? Yeah, I'll stand by
the pretty fast, actually. I think he's going
to get a knockout. How quickly do you think?
Charlie Suarez looks like such a loser on BoxRec.
His picture is not nice. Oh, no. That's just
unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Oh, jeez. Based
on that picture, like round three. He looks like
he could be a Dragon Ball Z character. He does.
That is a very anime caller in that picture.
Yeah. He is from the Philippines, so he's actually
probably pretty durable, I would assume. Yeah,
I would assume as well. I'm going to say Navarrete
in the eighth round. Eighth. Eighth. That's my
prediction. All right. I don't really have one.
Nav should win this one, though. That much to
be as clear. Anything more for top rank? Nah,
I think that is a very lopsided card, to be honest.
Yes, it is. The co -main should be fun. Looks
like it will be. Yeah. I just don't know who
this Abdullav guy is. I don't think I've seen
him before. I haven't seen him before either
that I can recall. He beat Jorge Linares in 2022.
Pretty far past his... Yeah, I just... That's
the only name I'm really recognizing. The rest
of these fights were in other countries against
people I don't know. It's another card. This
is a pretty busy weekend, but they're not all
that great. Probox, just really quick. Erickson
Lubin versus Ardriel Holmes. I said it on B -Sides.
This is vindication for me. Because I've been
talking about Ardriel Holmes for months. Drip
used to be like, who the fuck is this guy and
why are we talking about him? And I'm like, just...
Trust. This guy's going to be on stuff that you're
watching soon. Well, everybody should be watching
Pro Box anyways. Of course. Pro Box, good. Everyone
else, bad. I am so pissed off that they're not
in the week, though, anymore. I'm still angry
about that. I don't like it either. Wednesday
night was your thing. Keep doing. You should
keep doing your thing. It was working really
well. But that was really it. Erickson Lubin
robbed Jesus Ramos. Don't forget it. Queensberry.
This one will be earlier in the day. I'm actually
excited for the main event on this one. I kind
of forgot it was coming up, but it hasn't gotten
very much press. No. There's one guy on the undercard
that's worth checking out, Sam Noakes. Yeah,
he was the name I recognized as well. Yep. If
you haven't seen him, check him out. Otherwise,
Anthony Caccacci versus Lee Wood. Yeah, I always
like Lee Wood. Yeah, he's fun. He's the comeback
king. I think you're right. He came back against
Josh Warrington. He came back against Lara. He
came back against Conlon. That Conlon last second
knockout was fucking awesome. Through the ropes.
In the 12th round when he was losing so badly.
I don't ever... I say it all the time. I don't
know why I dislike Michael Conlon so much. I
just do. I actually like Michael Conlon. I was
kind of sad about that. But, I mean, how can...
The worst thing about Lee Wood is his haircut.
I fucking hate the broccoli head bullshit. Yeah,
he does have that. But... The way he spells his
name, I always want to call him Lay. Oh. I know
lots of people that use that as a Lee. I also
know an Ashley that spells it like that. Do you
have his box rec open? Yes. Lee Wood? Look at
his alias. Lethal. Yeah. Lathal? Lathal. I say
this, but I hope he wins. Kakachi is unfortunately
a dirty fighter. Kikachi is super dirty. I don't
like Kikachi. But if Lee Wood can handle Warrington's
dirtiness, I think he'll be fine. I think Warrington's
dirtier than Kikachi. Yes, absolutely. He was
on something recently. Josh Warrington? Yeah,
he fought recently. Trying to remember what it
was on. He was down the bill, though. Yeah, yeah,
he was really far down. What was the event? It
was in his hometown. It was in Sheffield. Dalton
Smith card. That's right. Versus Matthew Germain.
Yeah, he fought right after Padley. Now, yeah,
I remember that this was one where, for Dalton
Smith, it was like, why do you not, why is this
going as long as it is? This should be over by
now. Yeah. But, no, I don't like Kakachi. I agree.
I think he's quite a dirty fighter. The best
thing about Kakachi is his name and his nickname.
Yeah, the nickname is really good. The Apache
Kikachi is pretty catchy. But I hope Lee Wood
KOs him. I know Lee Wood's probably the underdog
in this one. He's been on in age, in years. Yeah.
Mileage, I should say. He might be getting on
in years as well. I don't know how old he is.
It is not listed. Yeah, they do that when they
get inactive. They stop tracking their age. That's
weird. Yeah, it is. It's not a... It doesn't
change. Right. And apparently there's a nature
preserve called Lee Woods as well. Imagine being
named after a nature preserve. He is 36. 36?
So he is also getting on in years. Yeah, I thought
we were about the same age. Wow. Yeah. But I
still want him to knock this asshole out. Who
is also 36. Yep. I don't know. I'm definitely
going to tune in for the main event on this one
for sure. I think it should be fun. Leewoods
is always pretty entertaining. Although Kakachi
is kind of dirty and clinchy and stuff, he might
try and slow it down. I think Lee Wood will box.
Same way he did with Lara. Try to bring Kakachi
there. And Lee Wood can fight from a distance
pretty well, actually. Yeah, the second fight
with Lara was fucking beautiful. He performed
really well. So hopefully he can turn into another
one like that. That's it for Queensberry. Last
one in Japan on the 11th. You are not going to
this one? I forgot about this one, but I'm going
to try and buy a ticket. I don't think I can
do my usual through the fighters website. I'm
going to have to. maybe call in a favor but i'm
gonna try and get a ticket it is in that uh ota
city which is just on the other side of tokyo
towards yokohama but close to tokyo i think it's
in tokyo province or prefecture or whatever the
fuck they call them here and uh not tokyo city
okay yeah i'm pretty sure it's in ota is its
own part of the prefecture yeah i don't think
tokyo is actually a city at all if my understanding
is correct tokyo is the province and then it's
just all the cities have gotten so big that they
touch each other inside the province like i think
if you go back a long time shinjuku and shibuya
were two separate towns with a space between
but as they grew they just touch now and it's
all tokyo city now oh yeah i see what you mean
like kind of like the five boroughs in new york
probably started out as different towns and then
became new york city yeah now they're they all
pretty much overlap with each other yeah the
tokyo all overlaps now but I think Ota was one
of the farther out cities that's just in that
province. Headlining this card, Fernando Martinez
versus Kasato Ioka. For the WBA super flyweight
title. Yeah, I went to the first fight and it
was really exciting. Ioka lost it, but it was
competitive and it was exciting. I want to see
the rematch. I have a feeling it's going to go
the same way. I kind of feel like Ioka's just
getting a little too old. Yeah, we were talking
about this before we started. Like, he's 31,
3, and 1. That's... Oh, shit, 3, 1, 3, 1. Cool.
He's on in years. How old is he? 35, 36? He's
36 as well. Everybody's 36, apparently. Oh, heck.
That's pretty... His style also isn't... Mileage.
Yeah, yeah. He gets hit a lot. The IBF is not
on the line this time. It's fucking vacant. Yeah,
they stripped Fernando when he didn't... make
the last fight, right? When he got sick? Yes.
The co -main, Hayato Tsutsumi, I've seen him
a couple times too. He's fine. He's not that
good. He's not that bad. But his little brother
debuted on the Times Square card. I didn't realize
they were brothers until today. I didn't either.
I didn't want to assume that just because they
have the same name. Even though it's a bit kind
of uncommon. Yeah, I just I hadn't realized they
were actually brothers. So that's kind of cool.
Yeah. I don't know who this Jaime Arboleda is.
He's from Panama. His nickname is Jaimito. That's
so cute. He fought William Zepeda in 2023. Polanco.
Chris Colbert in 2020. I just don't think I've
seen him. Maybe I have. I'm kind of excited for
this card, but obviously not that excited because
I forgot it was happening. Yeah, I had almost
forgotten about it, too. Oh. That's all we got,
though. Nice. Let me do the noise thing. There
it is. That's where the outro stuff goes. So.
What? Parting words? Yeah, we're heading into...
This will be coming out on Cinco de Drinko. Nice.
Heading into May 10th weekend. So I am a Toronto
Maple Leafs fan. I know everybody can send in
their hate mail. But the Leafs made it to the
second round of the playoffs. They knocked out
the Senators in... I think it was... Six games?
I'm excited. Round two. Here we come. Fun. It's
really hard to follow hockey in Japan. The time's
not good for me, and nobody cares, but I've been
trying to follow a little bit. And this week
is also Golden Week in Japan, which is just their
long holiday when the weather's nice. So, happy
Golden Week. Happy Golden Week. That is it for
this edition of Boxing Before Dark. This is the
after dark edition for me. I'm still before dark.
All right. We'll see you on the other side. Bye.
Welcome to the fucking show! Alright, just a
quick blurb, just so you can get back to what
you were doing. Why would a boxing fan, let's
assume they're like a purist or some shit, why
would they want to watch MMA, why would they
want to listen to an MMA show? I'm gonna come
at this from sort of like a primal level. So,
I will admit there are like some very, like...
unique and like stark differences between MMA
and boxing and it seems like one of the main
things that keeps boxing fans away from MMA is
the grappling aspect and yet sometimes it can
be you know a lay and pray type of fight and
it can get old but man like it's just instinctual
man some of these people the way they fight in
MMA It's just brutal. And I feel like that's
what it comes down to when it comes to being
a combat fan, a combat sports fan. I mean, we
saw it just recently. Mauricio Rufi versus Bobby
Green, a spinning back or spinning a wheel kick.
Man, I mean, they went viral. And it's something
that everyone can appreciate, even boxing fans.
I know if you have a few friends that are boxing
fans. who I sent him that clip. I mean, and they
were amazed. One even told me that they wish
they would have seen it live because seeing that
type of stuff live just elicits a euphoric feeling
that you can't get. I mean, it happens in boxing,
too, whenever you see an amazing fight. But I
just got to say, in MMA, you get those type of
fights as well, just in a different type. It's
different, but sort of the same. It's sort of
weird how I describe it, but it's different,
but the same. It comes down to that same carnal
or primal instinct of just fights. Yeah, I always
think the easiest transition that I always recommend,
I say this all the time on Ultimate Fucking Casuals,
is if you're not too keen on the grappling, Muay
Thai, and kickboxing. are exactly where you want
to start. Like, you start working on the kicks,
the elbows, the knees, all that stuff, and you
can come to learn to appreciate grappling. I
never thought I would, and here I am. Yeah. Like
I said, some of it is very boring, some of the
grappling. It depends on the fighters, but sometimes,
man, there's boring boxing fights all the time.
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're true. I mean... Oh, you're
right. But, man, some of these grapplers, man,
these scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty
crazy just to see it. Like, you know, rolling
around the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff
that they're doing in between and the scrambles.
I mean, it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone
over, the trips. I mean, it can be fun. But,
yeah, you're right. The easiest transition is
definitely start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing,
and, you know, slowly work your way into MMA.
And, you know, this is the thing about... Of
the ultimate fucking casuals. We will let you
know which fights are going to be good. Which
ones, you know, if you're not too in tune with
the grappling, we can get maybe a little tag
or a little asterisk on certain fights saying,
like, this is a boxing purist type of fight.
You can watch this and enjoy this. Like, we'll
let you know. Yeah, we always try. Like, I came
into this. The whole show was started with me.
I didn't know shit. about MMA. I'd never really
seen an MMA fight in its entirety in my entire
life. And I came into this with nothing. And
yeah, that's where we're at now is like, we're
talking like I make sure I go out of my way to
bring up Muay Thai and bring up kickboxing so
that people know like this for boxing fans to
know this is what this is where you can start.
All right. Well, yeah, that was about it. I really
appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac, for jumping
on real quick. Thanks for having me on. All right.
All right. Just to get right into it, Nathan,
you and I both tried the Strikeman dry fire system.
What did you like about it? No, scratch that.
What did you dislike? about uh i tried i have
the 380 acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what
did you test out and what did you dislike just
to start off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber
uh system um and really my only um complaints
really just came from the platform i was using
so i my 556 is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic.
Just in that context, a little tough to use because
it requires the trigger to be reset before every...
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,
right? Right. You're not relying on the gunpowder
resetting your... recycling around, so you have
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.
But, that being said, there's plenty of other
uh you know different types of systems that use
five five six you don't have to use uh ar style
and the auto system yeah work in that context
when you when you have a big old bolt like that
um sorry i lost my train of thought there let
me chop that up but in in that context um it
was a little tough to use I think this is a system
that's much more oriented towards either bolt
action or a pistol style where you could just
rack the slide, reset the trigger, and then you're
ready to go. Yeah, I had a similar experience
on the 6 .5 Creedmoor. I have a bolt action,
so you don't have to go through the full range
of motion to get it reset, but you do still have
to pop. the bolt and then put it back down to
get, to get the trigger reset. But as you were
alluding to the pistol version, I have my three
80 is a single action, double action. So I don't
have to rack the slide, but I can't, I do still
have to pull down the, uh, the hammer a little
bit to get it to fire off. Gotcha. Uh, what about
the, what did you think about that? I thought
the app was really cool. The setup was very easy.
It took less than five minutes to get the whole
stand and phone configured. I do really like
a lot of the gamified features that are kind
of put in there. So there's like some different
challenges and you can get on kind of leaderboards
and do matches with people. And I think that's
just really cool because, you know, when it comes
to getting better at shooting. one of the best
ways to do that is learning how to shoot under
pressure and so having something that's very
low stakes like this you know that is a it's
gonna force you to be accurate but um it's gonna
do so in a way where it's making you you know
you're not just doing it repetitively to range
you're trying to almost beat yourself or beat
a friend and that competition you know that raising
of the stakes is gonna help you become a calmer
shot over time i think I really enjoy that aspect
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting
is your max effective range, cut that in half,
and that's about what you're looking at shooting
under pressure. So if you're practicing with
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You
know, when you don't have walkers coming down
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just
play around with friends. And also, you're doing
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock
market these last few days, and ammo could become
significantly more expensive. But now with the
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.
You can take your time in the comfort of your
own home and practice all you want. Man, that
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a
lot more practice. but good to find out here
i think being on that timer too really shows
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill
that i i need to work on you know there might
be it's also different ranges this is similar
to like archery or long range shooting really
but like you could be really good at 100 yards
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right
so this this is you know being able to very quickly
just change the the ranges that you're shooting
at again just in your home in your backyard whatever
like that's a really really helpful uh skill
you can hone with this system Yeah. Well, overall,
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?
It really depends on what it is that you're trying
to do or what you're trying to practice with.
I can't speak to any of the other calibers, but
if it's like a handgun caliber, I always say
if you can get a single double, get a single
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.
nonetheless, it should still help to increase
your max effective range under pressure. Like
I said, cut your original in half. Yeah, and
I agree with that recommendation. I think any
kind of pistol caliber is really well suited
to this system. I think if you're going to do
rifle, I think bolt action is probably going
to be your best bet. But yeah, I definitely concur
with your assessment on on its usefulness as
a pistol training tool, which I think is, if
you look at, I think it's what they're aiming
for. Yeah, I think so too. When they were marketing
this. So they did well there. I think they have
shotgun gauges as well. Like that's kind of wild.
Not what I would have expected for like a dry
fire kind of training thing, but hey. Oh, that
sounds like it would actually work because you'd
just be... for a pump action. Yeah. You just,
you know, right. Yeah, that's right. So. All
right. Well, Nate, thanks for jumping on real
quick. Just wanted to get a little bit on the
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