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This shit ain't nothing to me, man. This is Boxing

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Before Dark. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Back. Back.

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Back. Back. Back. Before. Before. Before. Before.

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Boxing. Boxing. Boxing. Boxing Before Dark. This

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is Boxing Before Dark. Oh, shit. Boxing Before

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Dark. We're back, bitches. Shanada, how are you

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doing out there and JP? I'm good, I'm good. It's

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Golden Week this week, so I have to work because

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my experiment plan didn't give me a time off,

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but everybody else gets four days off. What's

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Golden Week for? It's just that there's randomly

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two holidays together. So, actually, there's

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kind of three. The 29th... is Emperor Showa,

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so I think like three emperors ago, two emperors

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ago. It's his birthday, the 29th of April, and

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then the first weekend in May, the Monday -Tuesday,

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is a holiday. One is Sports Day, and one is Green

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Day. So Sports Day, you go outside and play sports,

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and Green Day, you go appreciate nature. It's

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basically a long weekend while the weather's

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nice. Because in the summer, it's too hot. So

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they don't just play American Idiot over and

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over on Green Day? I would love that. They're

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going to blast it in the lab all weekend. Oh,

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shit. Well, let's get right into it. Fucking

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Manny Pacquiao is making a comeback versus Mario

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Barrios. This is fucking ridiculous. Absolutely

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ridiculous. I'm sorry, how old is Pacquiao these

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days? 45? When was his last fight? Like six years

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ago? I think... When did he fight Ugas? I think

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it was six years ago now. 2019? Before COVID?

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Was Ugas before COVID? Or was it during COVID?

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I thought it was after. I gotta go look it up

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now. Yeah, I was about to do the same. 2021.

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You're right. So four years ago. Still. He lost.

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He lost and a four year hiatus and you get a

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championship fight? Bullshit. Makes perfect sense.

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Bullshit. Mauricio is fucking smoking some something.

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I mean, man, he's a draw. I get that it's about

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money, but goddamn. Last time he looked good

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was 2019. That was his last good fight. Yeah,

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it's been six years since a win, and he gets

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a title fight? It's ridiculous. Yeah. Everybody

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is like, well, George Foreman came back and did

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it, but George did it the way you're supposed

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to. He went back on the grind and earned his

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way up to a title shot. These guys should not

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be getting title shots off of losses or coming

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out of retirements or anything else. It's ridiculous.

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Only situation I could see where coming out of

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retirement is enough to get a title fight would

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be if you, like Tyson Fury, you retire. No, those

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fake retirements. Yeah, those half -ass, like

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you're only gone for like a year tops. That's

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not a real retirement, though. That's just lying

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in the press and taking a normal hiatus break.

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Like one year is pretty standard. Well, not standard,

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but pretty common. Yeah. Not fucking four years

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coming off a loss. Yeah. And I mean, everyone

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talks about the Keith Thurman fight. Like he

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won. Yeah, he won. But everyone acts like it

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was this massive sweep like he did to Adrian

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Broner. Like Broner got his ass beat. Just pillar

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to post. But Keith Thurman got knocked down.

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And then otherwise was pretty competitive. Yeah,

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I do think Manny won that fight. He did. But

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it was a close fight for sure. Yeah, but people

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act like it wasn't. And then Ugas was... That

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was like the tipping point. Because after that,

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Ugas was competitive. But he was clearly showing

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his age. He was not the same guy he used to be.

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And he loses. I don't see this going much better.

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The only thing is that Barrios isn't all that

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awesome. Barrios is the weakest champion for

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sure. Which is the only reason Manny's trying

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this. But Manny's just too old. Right. His whole

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thing was speed. And he's not fast anymore. He's

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46 years old. 46? 46. He's a whole decade older

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than I am. What was the thing? Somebody sent

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a screenshot of Reddit and it was two posts.

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One saying Manny was coming for this title shot

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and the post directly under that was 16 years

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since Manny beats Hatton. Yeah, sweet juxtaposition.

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Fucking ridiculous. I don't know. I don't...

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I don't... Official fucking signature of in the

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no column for this one. I don't want to see it.

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Don't need Manny Pacquiao back. No. Because this

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is like a no -win situation. You beat Mario Barrios.

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Congratulations. You've got the easiest belt

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out of the three champions there are. You got

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the easy one. Now you've got a huge target on

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your back and somebody's going to beat the living

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piss out of you. Brian Norman or Boots. Yeah,

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nobody wants to see Pacquiao versus Boots. No,

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I absolutely do not. That's like elder abuse.

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This is a Del Boy situation. Like, I like Matty

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Pacquiao, but I do not want him to win if he

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does fight. Yeah, and that's the other part of

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the no -win situation, is he loses to Mario Barrios.

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I guess it's... What the fuck? It can't be that

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much worse than Ugas, but... Well, and just imagine

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you're Mario Barrios. You get to say you beat

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Matty Pacquiao. Yeah, and... You just got to

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hope that nobody stops to think about... What

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year it is? Yeah. Because, like, the 16 years

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since Ricky Hatton, that... How old was Barrios

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at the time? 10? Well, how old is Barrios now?

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He was 13. He's the Aztec, right? Yeah. He was

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13 years old when... Manny is 16 years older

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than Barrios? 29 to 46? Yeah. 17? 17 years. Barrios

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could literally be his son and it would only

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be slightly scandalous. Yeah. Like, as having

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a kid in grade 12. Excellent. Fucking ridiculous.

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Why? Why are they letting him do this? Why did

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Nevada clear him? Why did Suleiman allow this

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to happen? This is boxing corruption at its finest.

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This is where I would cue that song that... He

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goes, money, money, money, money, money. Oh,

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no. Yep. That's the only reason. There's no other

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reason. There's no valid reason otherwise. Well,

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and, like, he doesn't deserve the shot. No. Take

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everything else out. He just doesn't deserve

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it right now. Like, somebody is getting screwed

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under their chance. at the easy belt. Although

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I guess if they get to fight whoever wins, it's

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probably still an easy win. Yeah. I mean, Barrios

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isn't going to get any better and Manny's not

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going to get any younger. So whoever has the

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belt after this fight is still going to be the

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weakest champion. But Manny Pacquiao in 2025.

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Fuck. What is going on? Well, on that note, I

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am opening my holiday beer. Yeah. Fuck. It was

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the best of times. It was the worst of times.

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It was mostly just the worst of times. You know

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who's having a worst time? Sebastian Fundoro.

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Yeah, I saw they stripped him. That's unfortunate.

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Stripped him for... What was it you had said?

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So they ordered that he fight Xander Zayas, and

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he is declining that, dropping the belt for the

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Tim Zhu rematch. So Xander's going to fight someone

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for a vacant belt, I assume? Oh yeah, I didn't

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think to look up who that was. Yeah, I'm about

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to. I mean, the Tim Zhu rematch needs to happen,

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I guess. But I'm a little worried about Tim Zhu

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after seeing his last two performances. He still

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looks scared. And if Fundora cuts him again,

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he's going to just mentally implode, I think.

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If he gets cut again, he probably will. But he

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does deserve his shot at... at his revenge because

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that was not a fair fight that first one and

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i i've complained about it at length but the

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corner screwed him the doctor screwed him everybody

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screwed him in that fight the the wbo site isn't

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working it's no no it's and maybe it's just me

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Let me check. WBOboxing .com Nope. It just says

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Teezy in the top corner. Somebody misspelled

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Tess. I have it bookmarked. Or it's one of those

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weird Gen Alpha bullshit things. Tess is too

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normal. Give it a little Teezy. Tessie? Give

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it a little Tessie. I see probably more what

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they were going for. What weight class is that?

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54. Which is Walter? Super Walter. Or Junior

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Middle. Okay, so WBO is vacant. Zayas is 1. Perez

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is 2, maybe? The guy who beat Charles Conwell?

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I'm not sure. This seems to be an amalgamation

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of the rankings that I found. Xander Zayas next.

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Boxing scene has him. Yeah, the guy who just

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beat Cordell, not Cordell Booker, Charles Conwell

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is number two. Yeah, Boxing News 24 -7, whatever

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that is. Says it's Jorge Perez for the vacant

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WBO has been ordered. Yep. Makes sense. Team

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Zeus number three. How can you not... How is

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that not a sufficient title defense? I have no

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idea. Because Cordell Booker was a fucking mandatory.

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What is happening? They don't want Fundora to

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have that belt. That's all it is. It's strictly

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politics. They don't like Fundora being the champion

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there. Whatever Bob orders. The WBO belongs to

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top rank. They are screwing Fundora on this one,

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I think. Yeah, absolutely. Because I agree. Kim

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Zoo's ranked high enough. He should count as

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a defense. Yeah. I mean, if he's third. According

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to the Tessie site, he's third. What more do

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you want? Yeah, I don't... They want Fandora

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out, I guess. Yeah, because you've got to give

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it to Xander Zayas, who's a top -ranked fighter.

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It's not like they aren't going to make money

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on that Tim Zhu rematch, too. Probably more than

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they would with Xander Zayas, if Fandora fought

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him. I bet you they want Xander to fight for

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a belt on Puerto Rico weekend in New York. But

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then he beats Xander Zayas' ass? When is the

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Puerto Rico parade? I just know it's in June.

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Yeah, that's probably what they're doing. They

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stripped Fundora so that Xander Zayas can fight

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for a belt. in new york on puerto rico weekend

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because he's the only puerto rican that's famous

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right now in boxing and he's fighting a mexican

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people love that yeah people gobble it up i i

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used to love that rivalry stuff there's not much

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of a rivalry right now not at the moment but

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but i bet you that's what it is It's all so that

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the Puerto Rico Day Parade fights have a belt

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on the line. Just so happens the belt in question

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is the one that Top Rank always has. Well, it

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makes it easier to take it away from people.

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Yeah. Yeah, I don't know why... Boxing politics

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doesn't like Fundora. I know he's probably not

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the strongest champion. He kind of got lucky

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with that cut to get the belt and things, but

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he's a likable kid. He has no major scandals

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that I know of. He's entertaining. Nobody's ever

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said that Fundora's a boring fight. People should

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like him. Yeah, he's always entertaining. Whether,

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for better or worse, given his attributes. That's

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part of what I mean, though. Like, I don't see

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any reason for promoters to dislike him. I guess

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he doesn't shit talk very much. Too much of that,

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anyways. He's a polite person. Yeah, I guess

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that's too boring for... Too boring for boxing

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these days? We need more heels. Like Ben Whitaker?

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Gross. I've taken myself off of the Ben Whitaker

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train. I don't like him. I wasn't a huge fan

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to start with, and after that... injury. Big

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quotes on injury. I fucking hate them now. Yeah.

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That's what it was. The fake injury was pretty

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bad. To my fault, I was like, I can overlook

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this just to continue propping up the guy who's

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gets everybody all riled up because he dances

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around a lot. Yeah, but I don't like that anyways.

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He was already a heel in my eyes. Yeah, I was

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willing to overlook the injury thing, but then

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you're benefiting from another shitty stoppage

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and you're acting like you just beat this guy's

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ass when you fucking didn't. Well, and he fucking

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whined and complained. about the crowd booing

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him. Have you tried not being an asshole? Just

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an idea. Yeah, he's not coming back from that

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fake injury. No chance. Maybe he can start dancing

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again. Wow, I hope his ankle's okay. You never

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know with those kinds of things. It'd be permanent

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damage. Permanent damage. Segway into MJ Akhmadaliv

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fighting Inouye in September. Agreed in principle,

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as you put it. Yeah, so boxing scene has a quote

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from Inouye, or I assume his interpreter. That's

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the only thing that's written in stone, Inoue

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said. In terms of my future, the next fight is

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in September with MJ, but that's as far as it

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goes in the context of what's under contract.

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So it sounds like they've signed the contract,

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the fight's going to happen, and the rumors are

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it's going to be in September. I don't know where,

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though. I imagine that would be in Tokyo. At

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the Tokyo Dome. Yeah, I don't... MJ is one of

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the few that's kind of famous -famous, though.

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They might want Inoue back in the States. Eh.

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I mean, I'd prefer if it's in Tokyo. Yeah. I'm

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sure everybody in Japan would prefer it's in

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Tokyo. Everybody's still, uh, well... My friends

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are slight degenerates, so it's also not a good

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subsection of people to use as the normal. But

00:20:44.799 --> 00:20:47.099
everybody's waking up early and the bar is opening

00:20:47.099 --> 00:20:49.339
at 9 a .m. And we're all going to be there at

00:20:49.339 --> 00:20:54.440
9 a .m. to watch In A Way in Vegas. Making it

00:20:54.440 --> 00:20:59.299
work? Yeah. They did open today at 9 a .m. as

00:20:59.299 --> 00:21:02.779
well and tomorrow. So, like, this whole weekend,

00:21:03.079 --> 00:21:06.660
9 a .m. at the bar. But I'm not going into Tokyo

00:21:06.660 --> 00:21:09.359
three days in a row. That's too much effort.

00:21:09.519 --> 00:21:13.180
That is a lot. It's only an hour and a half on

00:21:13.180 --> 00:21:15.940
the train, but the waking up early and being

00:21:15.940 --> 00:21:21.259
dressed in a human, nah, too much. Did you say

00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:26.480
being dressed in human? Yeah. I can be not dressed

00:21:26.480 --> 00:21:30.559
and hardly awake in my house to watch this stuff.

00:21:30.799 --> 00:21:37.660
You could be a gremlin. Yeah. Especially when

00:21:37.660 --> 00:21:40.039
it's hot out, I hang around in very little clothes

00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.559
in my house all the time. And if it's boring...

00:21:43.559 --> 00:21:48.440
I can have a nap. You can fall asleep. I wonder

00:21:48.440 --> 00:21:54.019
what that would be like. I have fallen asleep

00:21:54.019 --> 00:21:56.640
at the bar before. One of those Sony cards, I

00:21:56.640 --> 00:21:59.039
just put my head down on the bar and had a nap.

00:21:59.099 --> 00:22:01.160
I asked the guy beside me to wake me up when

00:22:01.160 --> 00:22:04.380
they did the ring walks. I think it was a Bevo,

00:22:04.539 --> 00:22:07.980
better be a, if I recall correctly. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:08.039 --> 00:22:12.480
It was a six -hour card that started at 1 a .m.

00:22:13.380 --> 00:22:18.519
And they decided to take a long -ass break? Yeah.

00:22:19.099 --> 00:22:23.059
I had an hour nap, and I legit didn't miss anything.

00:22:24.259 --> 00:22:26.539
Somebody was playing darts beside me and woke

00:22:26.539 --> 00:22:36.200
me up when they got a bullseye. I am excited

00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:39.259
for Inouye to finally fight MJ. People will have

00:22:39.259 --> 00:22:44.900
to shut up about him being a duck. I don't know

00:22:44.900 --> 00:22:47.519
why they think that Inouye is the one ducking,

00:22:47.519 --> 00:22:56.160
but I see it on forums all the time. The price

00:22:56.160 --> 00:22:59.319
of success is the goalposts are always going

00:22:59.319 --> 00:23:05.140
to move. It doesn't matter. He could be fighting

00:23:05.140 --> 00:23:12.000
MJ now, and there would still be some other guy

00:23:12.000 --> 00:23:15.200
that he's ducking. Like, I'll say, like, Picasso

00:23:15.200 --> 00:23:18.500
or Sam Goodman or something stupid like that.

00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:22.240
But there's always someone. Or, like, he's ducking

00:23:22.240 --> 00:23:25.460
the guys at 126. Like, he's just fighting bums,

00:23:25.460 --> 00:23:28.059
and he won't move up because he's ducking the

00:23:28.059 --> 00:23:31.839
real challenges. The expecting everybody to move

00:23:31.839 --> 00:23:35.539
up a million weight classes is ridiculous. People

00:23:35.539 --> 00:23:37.799
didn't do that back in the day. Like, Marvin

00:23:37.799 --> 00:23:41.240
Hagler only fought at one weight class, and nobody

00:23:41.240 --> 00:23:44.500
complained. Triple G fought one weight class.

00:23:44.740 --> 00:23:49.880
Nobody complained. Exactly. Like, I don't understand

00:23:49.880 --> 00:23:52.220
why everybody thinks, oh, if you're good and

00:23:52.220 --> 00:23:55.799
you're small, you need to run up six weight classes.

00:23:57.799 --> 00:24:03.170
How about... The 126 guys, if they're so awesome,

00:24:03.329 --> 00:24:08.390
why don't they move down? Yeah. I mean, eventually

00:24:08.390 --> 00:24:11.069
Inouye is going to meet people that are just

00:24:11.069 --> 00:24:14.549
too big. Yeah, I think that's what people want.

00:24:15.029 --> 00:24:19.849
They want to find his ceiling so that they can

00:24:19.849 --> 00:24:23.789
say, see, he's not that good. Well, fuck him.

00:24:23.849 --> 00:24:28.940
He is that good. Yeah, exactly. It's ridiculous.

00:24:29.839 --> 00:24:33.500
Oh, well, his frame's big. He can go up another

00:24:33.500 --> 00:24:36.000
weight class. His frame is not big, by the way.

00:24:36.019 --> 00:24:39.940
He is tiny. Oh, well, he walks around at 140,

00:24:40.240 --> 00:24:44.259
so he should be able to fight up to 135. Like,

00:24:44.299 --> 00:24:48.900
bullshit. No. And also, in these really small

00:24:48.900 --> 00:24:51.019
weight classes, the height difference becomes

00:24:51.019 --> 00:24:55.200
a big thing. Like, how tall is he in a way? I

00:24:55.200 --> 00:24:58.480
think he's only 5 '4". 5 '4". And even taking

00:24:58.480 --> 00:25:02.140
out Espinoza, that's just like a... He's an outlier.

00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:06.880
Right, right. But what are the other guys up

00:25:06.880 --> 00:25:13.299
at 126? They're all like 5 '6", 5 '8". Robisi,

00:25:13.299 --> 00:25:18.059
I think, is closer in size. Robisi? I almost

00:25:18.059 --> 00:25:22.680
spelled his name wrong. 5 '6". Okay, two inches

00:25:22.680 --> 00:25:25.680
isn't that bad. But he's also, I think he might

00:25:25.680 --> 00:25:30.259
be an outlier as well. Because he's kind of small.

00:25:33.079 --> 00:25:38.980
Brandon Figueroa is 5 '9". That's five inches.

00:25:39.039 --> 00:25:42.019
That's a lot of reach. And his arms are probably

00:25:42.019 --> 00:25:51.740
longer. Fulton is 5 '6". Oh, they're not as tall

00:25:51.740 --> 00:25:53.900
as I thought they were. Yeah. I guess I can't

00:25:53.900 --> 00:25:56.880
complain about the height. But still, eventually

00:25:56.880 --> 00:25:59.220
he's just going to go up against people who are

00:25:59.220 --> 00:26:08.460
too big. Angelo Leo's 5 '6". Neri is 5 '5". Okay.

00:26:08.660 --> 00:26:11.839
Yeah. I take it back. I take it back. The height's

00:26:11.839 --> 00:26:16.039
not a problem. Yeah. 126 is doable, but there's

00:26:16.039 --> 00:26:21.650
really no need to rush. I also wonder if Inouye

00:26:21.650 --> 00:26:26.809
is actually... He lists himself as 5 '5". I don't

00:26:26.809 --> 00:26:31.349
think he's 5 '5". I would say it's safe to subtract

00:26:31.349 --> 00:26:38.369
one or two with everyone. The reach is listed

00:26:38.369 --> 00:26:45.329
as like 146 inches. Maybe dial down the exaggeration

00:26:45.329 --> 00:26:51.779
a little bit. Yeah. On BoxRec, they have his

00:26:51.779 --> 00:27:01.039
reach at 171, which is, what, 5 '8"? Is that

00:27:01.039 --> 00:27:04.339
in centimeters? That is in centimeters, yeah.

00:27:07.660 --> 00:27:11.180
67 and a half inches. That's 5 '7 and a half.

00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:20.079
Yeah. No, it's not. Anyway. Everybody lies on

00:27:20.079 --> 00:27:24.079
those things. Yeah, just like everyone says MJ,

00:27:24.380 --> 00:27:27.160
or Inouye's ducking MJ. Everybody lies about

00:27:27.160 --> 00:27:32.900
that too. God. Well, they're going to have to

00:27:32.900 --> 00:27:39.059
find a new lie here soon. I am certain. Well,

00:27:39.259 --> 00:27:42.819
my money, it's going to be that he's not moving

00:27:42.819 --> 00:27:48.990
up. He's ducking the 126 guys. Oh, 100%. I think

00:27:48.990 --> 00:27:53.009
you're correct. If he's fighting MJ next, I hope

00:27:53.009 --> 00:27:55.769
Nakatani is after that, which is what they said,

00:27:55.970 --> 00:28:02.950
I think. Nakatani in December. In Tokyo. And

00:28:02.950 --> 00:28:07.769
if that happens, I am buying a ticket. Oh, good

00:28:07.769 --> 00:28:11.569
luck with that one. Sure. I'll get one. Maybe

00:28:11.569 --> 00:28:16.130
not. Maybe I won't. Positive mental attitude.

00:28:18.779 --> 00:28:21.079
Because the first time I tried with the lottery,

00:28:21.259 --> 00:28:23.220
every time I've tried with the lottery, I have

00:28:23.220 --> 00:28:26.900
not gotten a ticket. But maybe I can get one

00:28:26.900 --> 00:28:30.160
of the old boys at the bar to apply for a ticket

00:28:30.160 --> 00:28:35.400
for me. That would probably work better. Because

00:28:35.400 --> 00:28:38.759
you can order up to four when you place your

00:28:38.759 --> 00:28:42.220
lottery application. So if they don't have their

00:28:42.220 --> 00:28:47.359
four completely stacked out. I also have a friend.

00:28:47.440 --> 00:28:51.420
I have a couple friends I can ask. So you'll

00:28:51.420 --> 00:28:55.140
have several options? Yeah, well, and I'll put

00:28:55.140 --> 00:28:59.259
their names on my lotteries as well. Recent cards.

00:29:02.180 --> 00:29:09.359
Boxer first? Yeah. Ben Whittaker. But this is

00:29:09.359 --> 00:29:11.819
the end of Ben Whittaker. At least this is the

00:29:11.819 --> 00:29:14.339
end of my support of Ben Whittaker. And this

00:29:14.339 --> 00:29:18.670
is any... semblance of a chance of him being

00:29:18.670 --> 00:29:22.529
a top -level guy. He's fucking finished. I think

00:29:22.529 --> 00:29:28.029
this is... I was never on the Whitaker train.

00:29:29.390 --> 00:29:34.210
I just don't like his attitude. And that fake

00:29:34.210 --> 00:29:39.910
injury fucking pissed me off to no end. And Cameron

00:29:39.910 --> 00:29:42.690
won that first fight, or was winning that first

00:29:42.690 --> 00:29:47.859
fight, in my opinion. Yeah, that's why he faked

00:29:47.859 --> 00:29:52.339
the injury. He got the benefit of a shitty decision

00:29:52.339 --> 00:29:57.660
to call it a technical draw. Yeah, ridiculous.

00:29:58.460 --> 00:30:02.859
And this time he gets a Brit stoppage. That was

00:30:02.859 --> 00:30:07.660
crazy. Like, that was an out -of -nowhere stoppage.

00:30:09.319 --> 00:30:14.390
He was putting it on, but... That was definitely

00:30:14.390 --> 00:30:19.430
way too early. It was the second round. Yeah.

00:30:20.289 --> 00:30:23.109
Cameron wasn't that hurt. No, that's what I mean.

00:30:23.130 --> 00:30:29.109
He had gotten tagged, but he was not stoppage

00:30:29.109 --> 00:30:33.950
level hurt. Nor was he getting hit to that cleanly

00:30:33.950 --> 00:30:41.559
that much. Should we start calling British stoppages,

00:30:41.640 --> 00:30:49.579
calling them Brexits? Yes. I just... Everything

00:30:49.579 --> 00:30:53.099
about this fight was kind of ass. Yeah. I do

00:30:53.099 --> 00:30:56.059
think Whitaker probably would have won if it

00:30:56.059 --> 00:31:01.680
kept on. Like, he was looking better than Cameron

00:31:01.680 --> 00:31:06.079
this fight. But him getting the benefit of the

00:31:06.079 --> 00:31:10.289
stoppage early and... I'm all for stopping fights

00:31:10.289 --> 00:31:14.170
before boxers take too much damage, but Cameron

00:31:14.170 --> 00:31:18.549
wasn't damaged yet. No, he wasn't. Like, I don't

00:31:18.549 --> 00:31:23.990
know. I just, that was, that was set up to make

00:31:23.990 --> 00:31:28.130
Whitaker look better than he is. And everybody

00:31:28.130 --> 00:31:32.210
knows it. And everybody knows that injury was

00:31:32.210 --> 00:31:35.390
fake too. He got booed on the way in and then

00:31:35.390 --> 00:31:39.269
he complained about getting booed. Dude, if you're

00:31:39.269 --> 00:31:42.430
going to be an asshole and clown on people, own

00:31:42.430 --> 00:31:47.450
it. Yeah. Like, if you're going to play the heel,

00:31:47.509 --> 00:31:50.289
play the heel. But don't whine like a little

00:31:50.289 --> 00:31:54.609
bitch when people don't like you. Yeah, that's

00:31:54.609 --> 00:31:58.109
kind of what you were going for, wasn't it? With

00:31:58.109 --> 00:32:01.990
the dancing stuff, you were going for rubbing

00:32:01.990 --> 00:32:07.390
people the wrong way. See, I think... In his

00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:10.990
head that was coming off as cool and not asshole.

00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:17.049
Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah, okay. I

00:32:17.049 --> 00:32:19.849
see what you mean. I don't think he realized

00:32:19.849 --> 00:32:22.349
he was playing the heel when he was dancing and

00:32:22.349 --> 00:32:27.690
clowning on Journeyman. He really thought people

00:32:27.690 --> 00:32:31.549
were like, wow, I want to be like him. I do think

00:32:31.549 --> 00:32:33.470
that's what he thought. I think that's what he

00:32:33.470 --> 00:32:36.829
was going for. Was, oh man, this guy's so cool

00:32:36.829 --> 00:32:39.549
and so good that he makes everyone else look

00:32:39.549 --> 00:32:46.529
stupid. Instead of everybody realizing it's just

00:32:46.529 --> 00:32:51.690
fucking disrespectful. Yeah. Anyways, he's also

00:32:51.690 --> 00:32:54.640
a little bitch. He faked an injury. to get out

00:32:54.640 --> 00:33:00.900
of it, and he complained when he got booed. Frazier

00:33:00.900 --> 00:33:07.400
Clark gets a quick stoppage over former Dillian

00:33:07.400 --> 00:33:13.160
White opponent Ebenezer Teta. I don't know if

00:33:13.160 --> 00:33:17.980
that's a good title to have, if that's your claim

00:33:17.980 --> 00:33:23.049
to fame. He took Dillian White to seven. And

00:33:23.049 --> 00:33:24.930
Frazier Clark gets him out in the first round.

00:33:27.250 --> 00:33:32.089
That's... To me, that's... It's making a statement.

00:33:32.329 --> 00:33:34.890
It's good. Yeah, it's good for Frazier. That's

00:33:34.890 --> 00:33:38.029
how you're supposed to do it. I'm also glad to

00:33:38.029 --> 00:33:40.589
see that he wasn't scared after having his head

00:33:40.589 --> 00:33:46.630
broken. Because that injury in the... No, wait.

00:33:46.710 --> 00:33:48.789
Am I doing it backwards? Fabio Wardley was...

00:33:48.789 --> 00:33:52.960
The Joff one was the second one. The first one

00:33:52.960 --> 00:33:59.140
was the nose flatten. Yeah, yeah. Fraser Clark

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:04.039
is mentally very tough. If somebody broke my

00:34:04.039 --> 00:34:07.140
head like that, I would not get back in the ring

00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:10.400
and stand there and let people punch me. Would

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:15.940
you perhaps run around the ring a lot? Perhaps.

00:34:16.219 --> 00:34:22.630
Even against a subpar opponent? Perhaps. Perhaps.

00:34:22.630 --> 00:34:26.530
Perhaps. I might look like a certain boxer who

00:34:26.530 --> 00:34:30.329
fought earlier today. I wonder who would do that.

00:34:31.489 --> 00:34:40.309
A little bitch like Shanada. I don't know if

00:34:40.309 --> 00:34:43.070
he's a little bitch for it. Sam Eggington gets

00:34:43.070 --> 00:34:45.010
his fight stopped on a cut. They were in the

00:34:45.010 --> 00:34:46.730
eighth round, so they went to the cards, and

00:34:46.730 --> 00:34:51.449
he got the UD. I know what no one can call Sam

00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:54.949
Egginton a little bitch. That man takes damage.

00:34:55.409 --> 00:34:58.710
Yeah, I I'm actually sad to see he's still fighting.

00:34:59.030 --> 00:35:03.809
I really think he's his brain is mush. This is

00:35:03.809 --> 00:35:06.789
another I wish he'd have lost. Yeah, it would

00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:12.289
be probably to his benefit if he did. I I get

00:35:12.289 --> 00:35:17.420
him and Cheeseman mixed up. I do, though. They're

00:35:17.420 --> 00:35:19.739
like the same person in my head. And I know one

00:35:19.739 --> 00:35:24.519
of them has really bad gambling habits. And that's

00:35:24.519 --> 00:35:27.559
why he comes back to boxing all the time. But

00:35:27.559 --> 00:35:31.039
I'm not sure if it's Eggington or Cheeseman.

00:35:32.059 --> 00:35:42.739
It's Josh confused Cheeseman and Eggington as

00:35:42.739 --> 00:35:46.800
well when I mentioned them. They're basically

00:35:46.800 --> 00:35:53.719
the same person. It has to be Eggington, because

00:35:53.719 --> 00:35:59.039
Cheeseman hasn't fought since 2021. Oh, they

00:35:59.039 --> 00:36:01.940
finally got him to stop? No, but it is Cheeseman

00:36:01.940 --> 00:36:05.280
I was thinking of. Cheeseman has lost hundreds

00:36:05.280 --> 00:36:10.159
of thousands through gambling addiction. I don't

00:36:10.159 --> 00:36:13.239
know why Eggington keeps coming back. It's the

00:36:13.239 --> 00:36:16.619
only thing he knows how to do. It's not just

00:36:16.619 --> 00:36:22.039
me. Because I typed in Eggington and gambling

00:36:22.039 --> 00:36:25.500
and the top hit is Cheeseman lost hundreds of

00:36:25.500 --> 00:36:29.940
thousands gambling. The whole world confuses

00:36:29.940 --> 00:36:35.599
these two men. I gotta see. They don't particularly

00:36:35.599 --> 00:36:38.619
even look alike. They're just the same person.

00:36:41.280 --> 00:36:45.769
Yeah, it's just the same person. It doesn't matter

00:36:45.769 --> 00:36:50.170
that they're... They look very different. Eggington's

00:36:50.170 --> 00:36:52.070
all tattooed. But their careers are almost the

00:36:52.070 --> 00:36:56.289
same. Like, their fighting styles are both terrible

00:36:56.289 --> 00:37:00.550
for themselves. Yeah, bad for their health. Their

00:37:00.550 --> 00:37:05.170
accents are fucking atrocious. West Midlands?

00:37:05.329 --> 00:37:08.710
I don't know. I don't know British accents that

00:37:08.710 --> 00:37:16.750
well. I can't. copy them but like hard to understand

00:37:16.750 --> 00:37:20.550
british accent from i don't know if he's from

00:37:20.550 --> 00:37:23.210
a small town but i associate it with rural poor

00:37:23.210 --> 00:37:27.650
people anyways the boxer card was what it was

00:37:27.650 --> 00:37:30.550
it wasn't super exciting i don't think especially

00:37:30.550 --> 00:37:34.369
not when the main and co -main end so fast and

00:37:34.369 --> 00:37:38.650
it was a it was just a matter of seeing like

00:37:38.650 --> 00:37:43.440
what happened with whittaker was he really messed

00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:49.079
up or not he got bailed out by the politics yeah

00:37:49.079 --> 00:37:52.000
he did i don't think that answered any questions

00:37:52.000 --> 00:37:55.219
for me other than is whittaker really a bitch

00:37:55.219 --> 00:38:00.659
yes would it be better if he didn't act like

00:38:00.659 --> 00:38:04.679
a little bitch afterwards yes it would be because

00:38:04.679 --> 00:38:08.739
like we always i always blame the fighter benefiting

00:38:08.739 --> 00:38:14.780
from crappy politics when they probably have

00:38:14.780 --> 00:38:18.960
very little to do with it. I think they don't.

00:38:19.800 --> 00:38:26.519
Yeah, but I also generally try not to attack

00:38:26.519 --> 00:38:28.679
the fighter, but I just don't like Ben Whittaker.

00:38:29.500 --> 00:38:33.219
His attitude is terrible. His personality is

00:38:33.219 --> 00:38:36.880
awful. So, any reason I have to dislike him,

00:38:37.079 --> 00:38:42.440
I'll take it. If a fighter I like benefits from

00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:49.519
shit like that, I don't say anything. Consistency.

00:38:50.960 --> 00:38:54.760
I have never claimed to be impartial. Not once.

00:38:57.199 --> 00:39:03.599
Moving to Eubank Jr. vs. Connor Ben. Some fun

00:39:03.599 --> 00:39:07.639
stuff. This card kind of sucked. Yeah. In my

00:39:07.639 --> 00:39:11.119
opinion. I liked the Anthony Yard fight. I thought

00:39:11.119 --> 00:39:16.360
that one was fun. It was okay. I know I watched

00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:19.340
the whole thing, but the British fights are literally

00:39:19.340 --> 00:39:21.820
in the middle of the night for me, and I don't

00:39:21.820 --> 00:39:26.440
remember anything. I missed Chris Billum -Smith.

00:39:27.500 --> 00:39:32.840
Heard he did well. Glanton was competitive, but

00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:37.409
it was really clear for CBS. Yes. Yeah, okay.

00:39:37.489 --> 00:39:39.650
I do remember now that I look at their faces.

00:39:39.889 --> 00:39:42.630
Yeah, Glanton tried. He was there to give an

00:39:42.630 --> 00:39:45.550
honest effort. Like, he didn't just shell up

00:39:45.550 --> 00:39:51.369
or anything. But CBS was just better. Yeah. I'm

00:39:51.369 --> 00:39:53.610
kind of glad to see that he isn't broken after

00:39:53.610 --> 00:39:58.010
that ass -kicking. Oh. Like, Zerto beat the fuck

00:39:58.010 --> 00:40:04.309
out of him. He did get a cut in the same -ish

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:08.300
spot. as he had from the Zerto fight. So I wonder

00:40:08.300 --> 00:40:10.320
if that's not going to be a problem for him going

00:40:10.320 --> 00:40:14.079
forward. Hmm. What would it look like if he was

00:40:14.079 --> 00:40:20.179
broken from his previous fight? I just... You

00:40:20.179 --> 00:40:24.280
know, some guys... Lateral movement? Yeah. You

00:40:24.280 --> 00:40:26.599
know, some guys are just scared to get hit. Yeah.

00:40:28.239 --> 00:40:33.090
Even when their opponent isn't that good. Yeah,

00:40:33.130 --> 00:40:36.389
I have to say Brandon Glanton was not as bad

00:40:36.389 --> 00:40:40.170
as I thought he would be. Like, I didn't know

00:40:40.170 --> 00:40:43.070
who he was, but people on the Discord chat while

00:40:43.070 --> 00:40:45.090
the fights were on, they all knew who he was.

00:40:45.210 --> 00:40:49.130
But to me, he was just some random American.

00:40:50.050 --> 00:40:54.630
Was he American? Pretty sure. Yeah. He's like

00:40:54.630 --> 00:40:57.829
from the army or something, isn't he? Or he played

00:40:57.829 --> 00:40:59.829
football. He played football professionally.

00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:07.489
And then switched to boxing. But CBS just out

00:41:07.489 --> 00:41:11.610
-skilled him. Just all around better. He looked

00:41:11.610 --> 00:41:17.610
good. I am happy about that. I kind of like CBS.

00:41:17.889 --> 00:41:22.289
He seems like a decent guy. You know who didn't

00:41:22.289 --> 00:41:26.710
look very good? It was Liam Smith. That made

00:41:26.710 --> 00:41:30.630
me really sad. I like Liam Smith. He's my favorite

00:41:30.630 --> 00:41:33.090
of the Smith brothers. But I think he's just

00:41:33.090 --> 00:41:38.389
getting a little old. Yeah, that's exactly what

00:41:38.389 --> 00:41:41.130
it is. He's going to go in and he's going to

00:41:41.130 --> 00:41:45.090
give it a good effort. And this is a hard one

00:41:45.090 --> 00:41:47.869
because he doesn't look completely washed. He

00:41:47.869 --> 00:41:51.010
just looks like he's not that good anymore. You

00:41:51.010 --> 00:41:54.309
know what I mean? Like Manny Pacquiao and his

00:41:54.309 --> 00:41:59.969
last outing? Yeah, exactly. liam smith doesn't

00:41:59.969 --> 00:42:03.610
take that much damage usually he's not he's not

00:42:03.610 --> 00:42:05.650
one of those guys that seems like he's getting

00:42:05.650 --> 00:42:09.389
screwed over fighting too long like he seems

00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:12.010
like he's still healthy and everything yeah but

00:42:12.010 --> 00:42:17.010
he also seems like he just he's not gonna do

00:42:17.010 --> 00:42:20.530
anything spectacular anymore and i kind of just

00:42:20.530 --> 00:42:24.190
want him to retire and be happy but i'm not worried

00:42:24.190 --> 00:42:27.110
about his health yet which is usually why i want

00:42:27.110 --> 00:42:31.800
people to retire Yeah. Yeah, that was the thing.

00:42:31.820 --> 00:42:36.320
You nailed it. He didn't look terrible. It's

00:42:36.320 --> 00:42:39.260
just obvious that he's showing his age. He's

00:42:39.260 --> 00:42:45.179
showing the mileage. It's a precarious time because

00:42:45.179 --> 00:42:49.659
he could keep going. But do you just want to

00:42:49.659 --> 00:42:52.519
have more outings like this where the margin

00:42:52.519 --> 00:42:54.780
just gets wider and wider out of your favor?

00:42:55.610 --> 00:42:58.590
Yeah, and you just become like, not really a

00:42:58.590 --> 00:43:02.690
journeyman, but kind of. Like you're a gatekeeper,

00:43:02.809 --> 00:43:05.670
I guess. And you just become a name that people

00:43:05.670 --> 00:43:08.230
start putting on their resume. And I don't want

00:43:08.230 --> 00:43:13.769
Liam Smith to be that guy. But I hadn't seen

00:43:13.769 --> 00:43:17.150
this McKenna kid before, I don't think. He kind

00:43:17.150 --> 00:43:20.829
of surprised me. I thought he looked really good.

00:43:21.090 --> 00:43:27.570
Yeah, I've seen him a few times. I'm trying to

00:43:27.570 --> 00:43:29.690
think of how to put it, but it was a really solid

00:43:29.690 --> 00:43:32.170
performance. A lot better than what I've seen

00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:34.630
out of him previously. He had shown signs of

00:43:34.630 --> 00:43:40.110
it, but this was special. He looked good. Like

00:43:40.110 --> 00:43:43.550
I said, Liam Smith didn't look like shit. He

00:43:43.550 --> 00:43:48.929
just wasn't as good. I'll have to start watching

00:43:48.929 --> 00:43:53.230
this Aaron McKenna. I like Irish fighters usually.

00:43:54.250 --> 00:43:58.090
Is he Irish? Although, yeah. I guess he lives

00:43:58.090 --> 00:44:00.829
in the States according to BoxRec, but he's Irish.

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Chris Eubank vs. Connor Ben. I was very surprised.

00:47:13.730 --> 00:47:17.949
Me too. In a good way. Yes. This fight was not

00:47:17.949 --> 00:47:21.469
supposed to be this good. No, it was not. And

00:47:21.469 --> 00:47:27.510
so far this year, my fight of the year. Oh, we're

00:47:27.510 --> 00:47:31.130
coming up on that time. The half year. The mid

00:47:31.130 --> 00:47:35.289
years. There's a couple of those Japanese ones

00:47:35.289 --> 00:47:38.349
that I can't think of right now that are probably

00:47:38.349 --> 00:47:45.159
also up there. But recency bias included. This

00:47:45.159 --> 00:47:48.300
was a fuck of a fight. This was really fun. I

00:47:48.300 --> 00:47:53.139
really enjoyed it. And I think it is entirely

00:47:53.139 --> 00:47:56.599
because they picked the right weight for it to

00:47:56.599 --> 00:47:59.820
be at to make it a fun fight. I think if you'd

00:47:59.820 --> 00:48:03.739
have made Eubank weigh in any lower, he would

00:48:03.739 --> 00:48:05.860
have not been able to do it. He would have been

00:48:05.860 --> 00:48:09.579
drained. Yeah. Well, I just think he didn't make

00:48:09.579 --> 00:48:12.420
weight. He made the re -weight, but he didn't

00:48:12.420 --> 00:48:17.199
make weight for the day before. But if you let

00:48:17.199 --> 00:48:23.880
him, if there had been no rehydration clause,

00:48:23.980 --> 00:48:26.619
or if the weight had been slightly higher, or

00:48:26.619 --> 00:48:28.880
all these other things, I think Eubank just kicks

00:48:28.880 --> 00:48:31.099
the shit out of Conor Benn. He's just bigger.

00:48:32.090 --> 00:48:35.590
But whoever set this contract picked the perfect

00:48:35.590 --> 00:48:40.190
conditions for this fight. Man, he only missed

00:48:40.190 --> 00:48:46.989
weight by eight ounces. Yeah, that's half a pound,

00:48:47.110 --> 00:48:52.929
right? Yeah. I'm not good at ounces. And it cost

00:48:52.929 --> 00:48:56.429
him literally a million dollars. Half a mil,

00:48:56.530 --> 00:49:00.070
but yes, it cost him a lot of money. And it was

00:49:00.070 --> 00:49:12.219
.05. Not .5. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I misunderstood

00:49:12.219 --> 00:49:21.559
then. No, I misspoke. It was a very small amount.

00:49:21.940 --> 00:49:26.440
And he... Yeah, and he ended up losing a shit

00:49:26.440 --> 00:49:30.989
ton of money for it. Yep. One interesting thing

00:49:30.989 --> 00:49:35.369
I saw after on the internet. So the trunks were

00:49:35.369 --> 00:49:38.690
a recreation of the trunks that their dads wore

00:49:38.690 --> 00:49:42.969
during their fight. So if you look at old pictures

00:49:42.969 --> 00:49:46.250
or rewatch the fight, it's on YouTube. They're

00:49:46.250 --> 00:49:48.909
exact replicas of the shorts that their dads

00:49:48.909 --> 00:49:51.230
were wearing, which I thought was pretty interesting.

00:49:52.039 --> 00:49:56.059
And I should have clicked when Ben had Destroyer

00:49:56.059 --> 00:49:58.519
on the back of his shorts because that's not

00:49:58.519 --> 00:50:03.460
his nickname. But I didn't click. I saw it later

00:50:03.460 --> 00:50:07.960
in an article online. What were your thoughts

00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:12.360
on the Eubank -Ben fight? It was entertaining.

00:50:14.340 --> 00:50:17.179
It was a lot more entertaining than I could have

00:50:17.179 --> 00:50:22.599
possibly expected. What I didn't... What I hope

00:50:22.599 --> 00:50:25.559
is that nobody took too much away from it because

00:50:25.559 --> 00:50:32.940
it wasn't that high -level chess match kind of

00:50:32.940 --> 00:50:37.820
thing. No, it was not. It was not the most talented

00:50:37.820 --> 00:50:40.460
fight I've ever seen. Yeah, you shouldn't be

00:50:40.460 --> 00:50:42.519
putting either of these guys on your pound -for

00:50:42.519 --> 00:50:47.619
-pound list because of this. No, and also, like,

00:50:47.739 --> 00:50:50.059
this fight realistically shouldn't have been

00:50:50.059 --> 00:50:53.360
happening. They're nowhere near the same weight.

00:50:53.820 --> 00:50:59.739
No, they're not. Yeah, like, Ben weighed in 150

00:50:59.739 --> 00:51:06.940
-something. Like, he was a few pounds off. Yeah,

00:51:06.960 --> 00:51:12.019
I think he was 157, maybe. Yeah, 157. That sounds

00:51:12.019 --> 00:51:15.789
right. Ugh, Connor Ben spells his name wrong.

00:51:16.969 --> 00:51:21.349
What, 1N? Yeah, well, he took 1N out of his first

00:51:21.349 --> 00:51:24.570
name and put it on his last name. Yeah, Ben weighed

00:51:24.570 --> 00:51:30.789
in at 156 .5, and Eubank Jr. is listed at 160,

00:51:31.090 --> 00:51:33.969
but he missed it by whatever you said, like half

00:51:33.969 --> 00:51:41.789
an ounce. Yeah. Which is crazy. Anything more

00:51:41.789 --> 00:51:48.539
for Eubank? Oh, there was a rematch clause both

00:51:48.539 --> 00:51:55.079
ways. Oh, fun. Yeah, so... Rumor is that Ben

00:51:55.079 --> 00:52:00.059
wants to activate it. I don't know if I need

00:52:00.059 --> 00:52:02.780
to see it again. Yeah, I don't think... I don't

00:52:02.780 --> 00:52:06.320
feel like I need to. The rematch isn't going

00:52:06.320 --> 00:52:13.289
to be as good. No. Like... I just... This was

00:52:13.289 --> 00:52:15.909
way better than I expected, and I would like

00:52:15.909 --> 00:52:21.090
them to just leave it alone. Having it at the

00:52:21.090 --> 00:52:25.610
soccer stadium there was also kind of cool. It

00:52:25.610 --> 00:52:28.909
was packed. It was packed, and the crowd was

00:52:28.909 --> 00:52:34.300
in it. The atmosphere was great. If anybody missed

00:52:34.300 --> 00:52:36.400
it, it's worth going and watching. Even if you

00:52:36.400 --> 00:52:39.539
know who wins, it's an all action. Like they

00:52:39.539 --> 00:52:42.280
met in the middle of the ring multiple times

00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:45.500
and just swung, which is what I like. It's not

00:52:45.500 --> 00:52:49.380
a technical high level fight or anything. It's

00:52:49.380 --> 00:52:52.880
just fucking fun. Yeah. It's just two dudes beating

00:52:52.880 --> 00:52:57.440
each other up. Ben has a chin. Yes. Ben has a

00:52:57.440 --> 00:53:03.480
fuck of a chin. And Eubank, the weight. requirements

00:53:03.480 --> 00:53:06.300
were hard on eubank you can tell he started a

00:53:06.300 --> 00:53:09.420
little slow he got rocked a couple times and

00:53:09.420 --> 00:53:13.139
he didn't do real good in those middle rounds

00:53:13.139 --> 00:53:18.559
and yeah really fun i think the right guy won

00:53:18.559 --> 00:53:22.119
i also just don't like connor ben but people

00:53:22.119 --> 00:53:26.300
should go watch it it was competitive but it

00:53:26.300 --> 00:53:28.619
was really clear like the cards came out eight

00:53:28.619 --> 00:53:31.659
to four eight to four and I think one of them

00:53:31.659 --> 00:53:35.679
was 7 -5, and that to me was a lot closer than

00:53:35.679 --> 00:53:40.739
it should have been. Yeah, it was clear that

00:53:40.739 --> 00:53:46.199
Eubank won, I think, but it was still fun. Yes,

00:53:46.260 --> 00:53:48.079
absolutely. I don't know how else to describe

00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:51.079
it. It was just a really fun fight. If you like

00:53:51.079 --> 00:53:55.719
people monging out, like... This is your jam.

00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:00.400
And this is why I would much rather watch two

00:54:00.400 --> 00:54:04.460
mid -level guys who aren't that good fight than

00:54:04.460 --> 00:54:08.139
some fucking master class of technique and skill

00:54:08.139 --> 00:54:12.639
and all that stuff. Shepard Stevenson? Fucking

00:54:12.639 --> 00:54:20.360
boring as hell. Just, no. But, I am also not

00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:24.389
a high class person. I like when they do... degrade

00:54:24.389 --> 00:54:27.429
into just fist fights this was this was a great

00:54:27.429 --> 00:54:30.269
fight it was entirely worth me staying up in

00:54:30.269 --> 00:54:33.150
the middle of the night to watch and i wasn't

00:54:33.150 --> 00:54:37.130
100 sure it was gonna be and i think in japan

00:54:37.130 --> 00:54:43.289
it cost me like 2000 yen which is 17 bucks american

00:54:43.289 --> 00:54:49.380
or something yeah yeah totally worth it I will

00:54:49.380 --> 00:54:52.480
complain that this weekend, everywhere else in

00:54:52.480 --> 00:54:55.059
the world seems to get a bundle on DAZN with

00:54:55.059 --> 00:54:59.659
the Times Square and Canelo cards. I don't get

00:54:59.659 --> 00:55:02.440
to bundle them, but they are cheap. So, I mean,

00:55:02.480 --> 00:55:04.320
I think I'm still paying less than everybody

00:55:04.320 --> 00:55:08.820
else, but there was no double -header deal for

00:55:08.820 --> 00:55:19.139
me. I think the bundle option was $120. Yeah,

00:55:19.199 --> 00:55:21.840
and it's still much cheaper for me buying them

00:55:21.840 --> 00:55:24.179
both separately, but there was no bundle deal.

00:55:24.440 --> 00:55:31.260
Yeah. I think here they're each about $30. Yikes.

00:55:31.420 --> 00:55:36.659
That is how much they cost individually. Yeah,

00:55:36.699 --> 00:55:39.900
but you have to remember that they start, like

00:55:39.900 --> 00:55:43.559
the undercard starts at like 7 a .m. Oh, right.

00:55:43.820 --> 00:55:50.949
That part always does escape me. So, like, I'm

00:55:50.949 --> 00:55:53.909
setting alarms and waking up early to watch these

00:55:53.909 --> 00:55:59.969
fights on my holiday weekend. But worth it. Well,

00:56:00.150 --> 00:56:02.309
actually, the card today was not worth it, but

00:56:02.309 --> 00:56:05.170
we'll talk about that next week. Yeah, that was

00:56:05.170 --> 00:56:15.070
not. Moving to some stuff coming up. I forgot

00:56:15.070 --> 00:56:21.460
to get the info on that one. Top rank. Where

00:56:21.460 --> 00:56:26.880
are we starting? I'm kind of looking at it. I

00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.480
don't recognize most of these names. Giovanni

00:56:29.480 --> 00:56:35.739
Santillan will be fun to see where he's at. I

00:56:35.739 --> 00:56:38.599
do recognize his name. He's the guy who fought

00:56:38.599 --> 00:56:43.219
Brian Norman for the title. Should I know who

00:56:43.219 --> 00:56:49.480
Angel Beltran is? I don't think so. This is a

00:56:49.480 --> 00:56:53.119
huge side tangent, but do you remember Angel

00:56:53.119 --> 00:56:58.300
Manfredi? I remember the name. Yeah, yeah. That's

00:56:58.300 --> 00:57:03.199
all. So I didn't realize that his last name was

00:57:03.199 --> 00:57:07.219
Manfredi. I thought his nickname was Angel Man

00:57:07.219 --> 00:57:12.489
and his first name was Freddy. And I did not

00:57:12.489 --> 00:57:16.309
realize this until we watched the Arturo Gatti

00:57:16.309 --> 00:57:19.769
fight on YouTube because they give you the titles

00:57:19.769 --> 00:57:23.809
on YouTube. But my entire childhood, I've seen

00:57:23.809 --> 00:57:26.849
that fight multiple times. I've seen Angel Man

00:57:26.849 --> 00:57:31.050
Freddy fight multiple times. I thought his nickname

00:57:31.050 --> 00:57:34.690
was Angel Man and his first name was Freddy.

00:57:36.869 --> 00:57:43.750
I mean, that is pretty cool. name to have. It's

00:57:43.750 --> 00:57:48.730
still stupid, but yeah. It is a little silly,

00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:54.269
yes, but it's alright. It's like misheard lyrics,

00:57:54.369 --> 00:57:58.650
I guess. Who did Giovanni fight last time? If

00:57:58.650 --> 00:58:04.590
I recall correctly, it was Brian Norman. I don't...

00:58:06.849 --> 00:58:09.710
He's had one fight since then that I didn't see.

00:58:09.869 --> 00:58:12.070
But yes, Brian Norman is the one I was thinking

00:58:12.070 --> 00:58:17.369
of. Oh, and then you fought Frederick Lawson.

00:58:19.030 --> 00:58:21.989
In Phoenix. Yeah, I'm about to check what card

00:58:21.989 --> 00:58:28.250
that is. Yeah, I got snubbed. Happens to me a

00:58:28.250 --> 00:58:36.980
lot. Ix. I do not recognize this Angel guy, but

00:58:36.980 --> 00:58:39.360
his picture isn't very good on BoxRec either.

00:58:45.760 --> 00:58:54.280
Angelman Beltran? I kind of hope Santillan looks

00:58:54.280 --> 00:59:00.860
good. Yeah, hopefully. But I do like upsets as

00:59:00.860 --> 00:59:08.670
well. For the interim IBF lightweight title,

00:59:08.869 --> 00:59:13.789
who's the lightweight champion right now? Lomachenko

00:59:13.789 --> 00:59:18.929
still? Can't be, is it? I think he still is,

00:59:19.050 --> 00:59:26.010
even though he's a year inactive. That's ridiculous.

00:59:29.289 --> 00:59:36.110
Has Lomachenko only been gone a year? Yeah. Crazy.

00:59:36.309 --> 00:59:41.190
Seems way longer than that. But Ray Moritaya

00:59:41.190 --> 00:59:47.250
versus Zaur Abdullaev. Is it Abdullaev? Yes.

00:59:47.650 --> 00:59:52.309
No, he's Armenian. No. Also, that's not what

00:59:52.309 --> 00:59:56.849
I was saying yes to. Vasily Lomachenko is the

00:59:56.849 --> 01:00:00.710
IBF World Lightweight Champion. Of course he

01:00:00.710 --> 01:00:06.789
is. Ridiculous. This must be, yeah, you said

01:00:06.789 --> 01:00:14.829
it's for the intro. Yep. I like cheering for

01:00:14.829 --> 01:00:18.530
the guys who are in weird, or from weird countries.

01:00:21.050 --> 01:00:27.750
But Murataya should win this, right? I think

01:00:27.750 --> 01:00:36.059
so. BoxRec has them at 5th and 6th. In the IBF

01:00:36.059 --> 01:00:44.460
rankings, they are 4th and 2nd. So, evenly matched,

01:00:44.619 --> 01:00:54.260
I guess, which is good. Abdullov is originally

01:00:54.260 --> 01:00:58.860
Russian as well. Oh, okay. He lives in Armenia

01:00:58.860 --> 01:01:03.139
now, but he's Russian. I see. Yeah, I'm going

01:01:03.139 --> 01:01:04.960
to have to cheer for the American on this one,

01:01:05.019 --> 01:01:08.840
I think. That's unfortunate. That's unfortunate,

01:01:09.380 --> 01:01:18.920
you call it. But whoever wins, Lomachenko's retired.

01:01:19.500 --> 01:01:24.940
Yeah, it's enough of the games. Stop holding

01:01:24.940 --> 01:01:28.699
up the belts. IBFC is really, really good about

01:01:28.699 --> 01:01:30.800
stripping people, too. I'm kind of surprised.

01:01:31.369 --> 01:01:36.570
Yeah, I am too. And in the main event, WBO 130

01:01:36.570 --> 01:01:41.449
title, Emmanuel Navarrete versus Charlie Suarez.

01:01:43.389 --> 01:01:48.309
I love Navarrete. Yeah. I think he should win

01:01:48.309 --> 01:01:52.570
this pretty fast. Handily? Yeah, I'll stand by

01:01:52.570 --> 01:01:54.630
the pretty fast, actually. I think he's going

01:01:54.630 --> 01:01:57.909
to get a knockout. How quickly do you think?

01:02:02.409 --> 01:02:06.829
Charlie Suarez looks like such a loser on BoxRec.

01:02:06.869 --> 01:02:09.809
His picture is not nice. Oh, no. That's just

01:02:09.809 --> 01:02:14.670
unfortunate. It's unfortunate. Oh, jeez. Based

01:02:14.670 --> 01:02:19.369
on that picture, like round three. He looks like

01:02:19.369 --> 01:02:23.289
he could be a Dragon Ball Z character. He does.

01:02:23.530 --> 01:02:28.210
That is a very anime caller in that picture.

01:02:28.750 --> 01:02:34.420
Yeah. He is from the Philippines, so he's actually

01:02:34.420 --> 01:02:37.900
probably pretty durable, I would assume. Yeah,

01:02:37.980 --> 01:02:44.239
I would assume as well. I'm going to say Navarrete

01:02:44.239 --> 01:02:52.039
in the eighth round. Eighth. Eighth. That's my

01:02:52.039 --> 01:02:58.480
prediction. All right. I don't really have one.

01:02:59.309 --> 01:03:03.309
Nav should win this one, though. That much to

01:03:03.309 --> 01:03:08.929
be as clear. Anything more for top rank? Nah,

01:03:08.989 --> 01:03:13.050
I think that is a very lopsided card, to be honest.

01:03:13.369 --> 01:03:18.429
Yes, it is. The co -main should be fun. Looks

01:03:18.429 --> 01:03:22.210
like it will be. Yeah. I just don't know who

01:03:22.210 --> 01:03:25.190
this Abdullav guy is. I don't think I've seen

01:03:25.190 --> 01:03:29.889
him before. I haven't seen him before either

01:03:29.889 --> 01:03:34.710
that I can recall. He beat Jorge Linares in 2022.

01:03:35.929 --> 01:03:44.570
Pretty far past his... Yeah, I just... That's

01:03:44.570 --> 01:03:47.889
the only name I'm really recognizing. The rest

01:03:47.889 --> 01:03:52.329
of these fights were in other countries against

01:03:52.329 --> 01:03:56.269
people I don't know. It's another card. This

01:03:56.269 --> 01:03:59.090
is a pretty busy weekend, but they're not all

01:03:59.090 --> 01:04:05.469
that great. Probox, just really quick. Erickson

01:04:05.469 --> 01:04:10.269
Lubin versus Ardriel Holmes. I said it on B -Sides.

01:04:10.289 --> 01:04:13.630
This is vindication for me. Because I've been

01:04:13.630 --> 01:04:19.150
talking about Ardriel Holmes for months. Drip

01:04:19.150 --> 01:04:20.929
used to be like, who the fuck is this guy and

01:04:20.929 --> 01:04:23.969
why are we talking about him? And I'm like, just...

01:04:25.710 --> 01:04:30.309
Trust. This guy's going to be on stuff that you're

01:04:30.309 --> 01:04:33.690
watching soon. Well, everybody should be watching

01:04:33.690 --> 01:04:38.889
Pro Box anyways. Of course. Pro Box, good. Everyone

01:04:38.889 --> 01:04:42.650
else, bad. I am so pissed off that they're not

01:04:42.650 --> 01:04:45.909
in the week, though, anymore. I'm still angry

01:04:45.909 --> 01:04:48.869
about that. I don't like it either. Wednesday

01:04:48.869 --> 01:04:53.269
night was your thing. Keep doing. You should

01:04:53.269 --> 01:04:56.159
keep doing your thing. It was working really

01:04:56.159 --> 01:05:00.800
well. But that was really it. Erickson Lubin

01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:10.460
robbed Jesus Ramos. Don't forget it. Queensberry.

01:05:11.300 --> 01:05:16.320
This one will be earlier in the day. I'm actually

01:05:16.320 --> 01:05:19.460
excited for the main event on this one. I kind

01:05:19.460 --> 01:05:22.500
of forgot it was coming up, but it hasn't gotten

01:05:22.500 --> 01:05:26.989
very much press. No. There's one guy on the undercard

01:05:26.989 --> 01:05:30.750
that's worth checking out, Sam Noakes. Yeah,

01:05:30.829 --> 01:05:34.210
he was the name I recognized as well. Yep. If

01:05:34.210 --> 01:05:37.329
you haven't seen him, check him out. Otherwise,

01:05:37.530 --> 01:05:44.630
Anthony Caccacci versus Lee Wood. Yeah, I always

01:05:44.630 --> 01:05:50.530
like Lee Wood. Yeah, he's fun. He's the comeback

01:05:50.530 --> 01:05:58.780
king. I think you're right. He came back against

01:05:58.780 --> 01:06:02.800
Josh Warrington. He came back against Lara. He

01:06:02.800 --> 01:06:07.360
came back against Conlon. That Conlon last second

01:06:07.360 --> 01:06:11.340
knockout was fucking awesome. Through the ropes.

01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:17.300
In the 12th round when he was losing so badly.

01:06:18.960 --> 01:06:22.400
I don't ever... I say it all the time. I don't

01:06:22.400 --> 01:06:26.719
know why I dislike Michael Conlon so much. I

01:06:26.719 --> 01:06:29.219
just do. I actually like Michael Conlon. I was

01:06:29.219 --> 01:06:32.820
kind of sad about that. But, I mean, how can...

01:06:32.820 --> 01:06:36.099
The worst thing about Lee Wood is his haircut.

01:06:36.400 --> 01:06:40.239
I fucking hate the broccoli head bullshit. Yeah,

01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:43.800
he does have that. But... The way he spells his

01:06:43.800 --> 01:06:48.190
name, I always want to call him Lay. Oh. I know

01:06:48.190 --> 01:06:53.269
lots of people that use that as a Lee. I also

01:06:53.269 --> 01:06:56.949
know an Ashley that spells it like that. Do you

01:06:56.949 --> 01:07:00.409
have his box rec open? Yes. Lee Wood? Look at

01:07:00.409 --> 01:07:09.690
his alias. Lethal. Yeah. Lathal? Lathal. I say

01:07:09.690 --> 01:07:13.190
this, but I hope he wins. Kakachi is unfortunately

01:07:13.190 --> 01:07:17.730
a dirty fighter. Kikachi is super dirty. I don't

01:07:17.730 --> 01:07:23.130
like Kikachi. But if Lee Wood can handle Warrington's

01:07:23.130 --> 01:07:27.389
dirtiness, I think he'll be fine. I think Warrington's

01:07:27.389 --> 01:07:35.190
dirtier than Kikachi. Yes, absolutely. He was

01:07:35.190 --> 01:07:42.510
on something recently. Josh Warrington? Yeah,

01:07:42.630 --> 01:07:45.420
he fought recently. Trying to remember what it

01:07:45.420 --> 01:07:54.559
was on. He was down the bill, though. Yeah, yeah,

01:07:54.599 --> 01:07:58.719
he was really far down. What was the event? It

01:07:58.719 --> 01:08:04.019
was in his hometown. It was in Sheffield. Dalton

01:08:04.019 --> 01:08:08.420
Smith card. That's right. Versus Matthew Germain.

01:08:09.440 --> 01:08:14.860
Yeah, he fought right after Padley. Now, yeah,

01:08:14.860 --> 01:08:18.600
I remember that this was one where, for Dalton

01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:22.340
Smith, it was like, why do you not, why is this

01:08:22.340 --> 01:08:25.760
going as long as it is? This should be over by

01:08:25.760 --> 01:08:33.819
now. Yeah. But, no, I don't like Kakachi. I agree.

01:08:33.899 --> 01:08:38.239
I think he's quite a dirty fighter. The best

01:08:38.239 --> 01:08:42.239
thing about Kakachi is his name and his nickname.

01:08:43.949 --> 01:08:47.130
Yeah, the nickname is really good. The Apache

01:08:47.130 --> 01:08:52.310
Kikachi is pretty catchy. But I hope Lee Wood

01:08:52.310 --> 01:08:55.930
KOs him. I know Lee Wood's probably the underdog

01:08:55.930 --> 01:09:01.430
in this one. He's been on in age, in years. Yeah.

01:09:01.630 --> 01:09:06.050
Mileage, I should say. He might be getting on

01:09:06.050 --> 01:09:08.090
in years as well. I don't know how old he is.

01:09:09.390 --> 01:09:16.359
It is not listed. Yeah, they do that when they

01:09:16.359 --> 01:09:22.319
get inactive. They stop tracking their age. That's

01:09:22.319 --> 01:09:27.880
weird. Yeah, it is. It's not a... It doesn't

01:09:27.880 --> 01:09:34.899
change. Right. And apparently there's a nature

01:09:34.899 --> 01:09:41.899
preserve called Lee Woods as well. Imagine being

01:09:41.899 --> 01:09:46.359
named after a nature preserve. He is 36. 36?

01:09:46.399 --> 01:09:48.619
So he is also getting on in years. Yeah, I thought

01:09:48.619 --> 01:09:55.159
we were about the same age. Wow. Yeah. But I

01:09:55.159 --> 01:09:59.859
still want him to knock this asshole out. Who

01:09:59.859 --> 01:10:04.439
is also 36. Yep. I don't know. I'm definitely

01:10:04.439 --> 01:10:06.859
going to tune in for the main event on this one

01:10:06.859 --> 01:10:09.600
for sure. I think it should be fun. Leewoods

01:10:09.600 --> 01:10:14.659
is always pretty entertaining. Although Kakachi

01:10:14.659 --> 01:10:17.279
is kind of dirty and clinchy and stuff, he might

01:10:17.279 --> 01:10:21.840
try and slow it down. I think Lee Wood will box.

01:10:23.359 --> 01:10:30.079
Same way he did with Lara. Try to bring Kakachi

01:10:30.079 --> 01:10:34.500
there. And Lee Wood can fight from a distance

01:10:34.500 --> 01:10:37.760
pretty well, actually. Yeah, the second fight

01:10:37.760 --> 01:10:42.859
with Lara was fucking beautiful. He performed

01:10:42.859 --> 01:10:47.020
really well. So hopefully he can turn into another

01:10:47.020 --> 01:10:51.359
one like that. That's it for Queensberry. Last

01:10:51.359 --> 01:10:58.920
one in Japan on the 11th. You are not going to

01:10:58.920 --> 01:11:03.640
this one? I forgot about this one, but I'm going

01:11:03.640 --> 01:11:06.039
to try and buy a ticket. I don't think I can

01:11:06.039 --> 01:11:09.579
do my usual through the fighters website. I'm

01:11:09.579 --> 01:11:15.270
going to have to. maybe call in a favor but i'm

01:11:15.270 --> 01:11:18.369
gonna try and get a ticket it is in that uh ota

01:11:18.369 --> 01:11:21.569
city which is just on the other side of tokyo

01:11:21.569 --> 01:11:26.329
towards yokohama but close to tokyo i think it's

01:11:26.329 --> 01:11:29.850
in tokyo province or prefecture or whatever the

01:11:29.850 --> 01:11:32.670
fuck they call them here and uh not tokyo city

01:11:32.670 --> 01:11:41.029
okay yeah i'm pretty sure it's in ota is its

01:11:41.029 --> 01:11:46.170
own part of the prefecture yeah i don't think

01:11:46.170 --> 01:11:49.949
tokyo is actually a city at all if my understanding

01:11:49.949 --> 01:11:54.390
is correct tokyo is the province and then it's

01:11:54.390 --> 01:11:57.529
just all the cities have gotten so big that they

01:11:57.529 --> 01:12:01.310
touch each other inside the province like i think

01:12:01.310 --> 01:12:05.810
if you go back a long time shinjuku and shibuya

01:12:05.810 --> 01:12:08.109
were two separate towns with a space between

01:12:08.109 --> 01:12:12.199
but as they grew they just touch now and it's

01:12:12.199 --> 01:12:16.979
all tokyo city now oh yeah i see what you mean

01:12:16.979 --> 01:12:20.300
like kind of like the five boroughs in new york

01:12:20.300 --> 01:12:23.699
probably started out as different towns and then

01:12:23.699 --> 01:12:28.600
became new york city yeah now they're they all

01:12:28.600 --> 01:12:31.899
pretty much overlap with each other yeah the

01:12:31.899 --> 01:12:38.609
tokyo all overlaps now but I think Ota was one

01:12:38.609 --> 01:12:40.569
of the farther out cities that's just in that

01:12:40.569 --> 01:12:45.430
province. Headlining this card, Fernando Martinez

01:12:45.430 --> 01:12:52.770
versus Kasato Ioka. For the WBA super flyweight

01:12:52.770 --> 01:12:57.729
title. Yeah, I went to the first fight and it

01:12:57.729 --> 01:13:02.390
was really exciting. Ioka lost it, but it was

01:13:02.390 --> 01:13:06.420
competitive and it was exciting. I want to see

01:13:06.420 --> 01:13:08.920
the rematch. I have a feeling it's going to go

01:13:08.920 --> 01:13:12.880
the same way. I kind of feel like Ioka's just

01:13:12.880 --> 01:13:17.060
getting a little too old. Yeah, we were talking

01:13:17.060 --> 01:13:19.779
about this before we started. Like, he's 31,

01:13:19.939 --> 01:13:23.960
3, and 1. That's... Oh, shit, 3, 1, 3, 1. Cool.

01:13:26.779 --> 01:13:31.630
He's on in years. How old is he? 35, 36? He's

01:13:31.630 --> 01:13:35.789
36 as well. Everybody's 36, apparently. Oh, heck.

01:13:37.310 --> 01:13:43.270
That's pretty... His style also isn't... Mileage.

01:13:43.670 --> 01:13:50.149
Yeah, yeah. He gets hit a lot. The IBF is not

01:13:50.149 --> 01:13:55.729
on the line this time. It's fucking vacant. Yeah,

01:13:55.850 --> 01:14:00.090
they stripped Fernando when he didn't... make

01:14:00.090 --> 01:14:02.630
the last fight, right? When he got sick? Yes.

01:14:04.130 --> 01:14:08.289
The co -main, Hayato Tsutsumi, I've seen him

01:14:08.289 --> 01:14:13.050
a couple times too. He's fine. He's not that

01:14:13.050 --> 01:14:16.329
good. He's not that bad. But his little brother

01:14:16.329 --> 01:14:20.890
debuted on the Times Square card. I didn't realize

01:14:20.890 --> 01:14:23.090
they were brothers until today. I didn't either.

01:14:23.750 --> 01:14:26.710
I didn't want to assume that just because they

01:14:26.710 --> 01:14:29.770
have the same name. Even though it's a bit kind

01:14:29.770 --> 01:14:34.869
of uncommon. Yeah, I just I hadn't realized they

01:14:34.869 --> 01:14:37.529
were actually brothers. So that's kind of cool.

01:14:37.789 --> 01:14:45.029
Yeah. I don't know who this Jaime Arboleda is.

01:14:45.869 --> 01:14:59.039
He's from Panama. His nickname is Jaimito. That's

01:14:59.039 --> 01:15:09.899
so cute. He fought William Zepeda in 2023. Polanco.

01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:23.000
Chris Colbert in 2020. I just don't think I've

01:15:23.000 --> 01:15:30.930
seen him. Maybe I have. I'm kind of excited for

01:15:30.930 --> 01:15:33.369
this card, but obviously not that excited because

01:15:33.369 --> 01:15:36.569
I forgot it was happening. Yeah, I had almost

01:15:36.569 --> 01:15:44.789
forgotten about it, too. Oh. That's all we got,

01:15:44.909 --> 01:15:51.909
though. Nice. Let me do the noise thing. There

01:15:51.909 --> 01:15:55.470
it is. That's where the outro stuff goes. So.

01:15:57.729 --> 01:16:01.619
What? Parting words? Yeah, we're heading into...

01:16:01.619 --> 01:16:07.800
This will be coming out on Cinco de Drinko. Nice.

01:16:10.100 --> 01:16:17.060
Heading into May 10th weekend. So I am a Toronto

01:16:17.060 --> 01:16:19.859
Maple Leafs fan. I know everybody can send in

01:16:19.859 --> 01:16:22.340
their hate mail. But the Leafs made it to the

01:16:22.340 --> 01:16:24.899
second round of the playoffs. They knocked out

01:16:24.899 --> 01:16:28.300
the Senators in... I think it was... Six games?

01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:34.300
I'm excited. Round two. Here we come. Fun. It's

01:16:34.300 --> 01:16:37.819
really hard to follow hockey in Japan. The time's

01:16:37.819 --> 01:16:42.859
not good for me, and nobody cares, but I've been

01:16:42.859 --> 01:16:45.979
trying to follow a little bit. And this week

01:16:45.979 --> 01:16:50.520
is also Golden Week in Japan, which is just their

01:16:50.520 --> 01:16:53.859
long holiday when the weather's nice. So, happy

01:16:53.859 --> 01:17:00.470
Golden Week. Happy Golden Week. That is it for

01:17:00.470 --> 01:17:04.869
this edition of Boxing Before Dark. This is the

01:17:04.869 --> 01:17:09.930
after dark edition for me. I'm still before dark.

01:17:10.210 --> 01:17:15.470
All right. We'll see you on the other side. Bye.

01:17:29.640 --> 01:17:32.420
Welcome to the fucking show! Alright, just a

01:17:32.420 --> 01:17:34.420
quick blurb, just so you can get back to what

01:17:34.420 --> 01:17:40.640
you were doing. Why would a boxing fan, let's

01:17:40.640 --> 01:17:44.699
assume they're like a purist or some shit, why

01:17:44.699 --> 01:17:47.500
would they want to watch MMA, why would they

01:17:47.500 --> 01:17:50.539
want to listen to an MMA show? I'm gonna come

01:17:50.539 --> 01:17:53.340
at this from sort of like a primal level. So,

01:17:53.359 --> 01:17:56.699
I will admit there are like some very, like...

01:17:57.319 --> 01:18:00.140
unique and like stark differences between MMA

01:18:00.140 --> 01:18:03.159
and boxing and it seems like one of the main

01:18:03.159 --> 01:18:07.760
things that keeps boxing fans away from MMA is

01:18:07.760 --> 01:18:10.439
the grappling aspect and yet sometimes it can

01:18:10.439 --> 01:18:14.279
be you know a lay and pray type of fight and

01:18:14.279 --> 01:18:19.340
it can get old but man like it's just instinctual

01:18:19.340 --> 01:18:22.199
man some of these people the way they fight in

01:18:22.199 --> 01:18:25.300
MMA It's just brutal. And I feel like that's

01:18:25.300 --> 01:18:26.739
what it comes down to when it comes to being

01:18:26.739 --> 01:18:31.659
a combat fan, a combat sports fan. I mean, we

01:18:31.659 --> 01:18:37.140
saw it just recently. Mauricio Rufi versus Bobby

01:18:37.140 --> 01:18:41.140
Green, a spinning back or spinning a wheel kick.

01:18:42.500 --> 01:18:45.520
Man, I mean, they went viral. And it's something

01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.479
that everyone can appreciate, even boxing fans.

01:18:47.819 --> 01:18:50.300
I know if you have a few friends that are boxing

01:18:50.300 --> 01:18:55.010
fans. who I sent him that clip. I mean, and they

01:18:55.010 --> 01:18:58.890
were amazed. One even told me that they wish

01:18:58.890 --> 01:19:02.189
they would have seen it live because seeing that

01:19:02.189 --> 01:19:07.310
type of stuff live just elicits a euphoric feeling

01:19:07.310 --> 01:19:09.989
that you can't get. I mean, it happens in boxing,

01:19:10.069 --> 01:19:12.770
too, whenever you see an amazing fight. But I

01:19:12.770 --> 01:19:17.789
just got to say, in MMA, you get those type of

01:19:17.789 --> 01:19:21.260
fights as well, just in a different type. It's

01:19:21.260 --> 01:19:23.939
different, but sort of the same. It's sort of

01:19:23.939 --> 01:19:26.340
weird how I describe it, but it's different,

01:19:26.399 --> 01:19:29.100
but the same. It comes down to that same carnal

01:19:29.100 --> 01:19:34.560
or primal instinct of just fights. Yeah, I always

01:19:34.560 --> 01:19:39.399
think the easiest transition that I always recommend,

01:19:39.600 --> 01:19:42.739
I say this all the time on Ultimate Fucking Casuals,

01:19:42.779 --> 01:19:48.640
is if you're not too keen on the grappling, Muay

01:19:48.640 --> 01:19:52.039
Thai, and kickboxing. are exactly where you want

01:19:52.039 --> 01:19:54.600
to start. Like, you start working on the kicks,

01:19:54.739 --> 01:19:58.600
the elbows, the knees, all that stuff, and you

01:19:58.600 --> 01:20:02.239
can come to learn to appreciate grappling. I

01:20:02.239 --> 01:20:06.659
never thought I would, and here I am. Yeah. Like

01:20:06.659 --> 01:20:08.800
I said, some of it is very boring, some of the

01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:11.079
grappling. It depends on the fighters, but sometimes,

01:20:11.220 --> 01:20:13.800
man, there's boring boxing fights all the time.

01:20:14.359 --> 01:20:17.010
Yeah. Yeah, no, you're true. I mean... Oh, you're

01:20:17.010 --> 01:20:19.670
right. But, man, some of these grapplers, man,

01:20:19.729 --> 01:20:22.670
these scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty

01:20:22.670 --> 01:20:25.470
crazy just to see it. Like, you know, rolling

01:20:25.470 --> 01:20:27.750
around the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff

01:20:27.750 --> 01:20:29.229
that they're doing in between and the scrambles.

01:20:29.270 --> 01:20:30.869
I mean, it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone

01:20:30.869 --> 01:20:34.529
over, the trips. I mean, it can be fun. But,

01:20:34.550 --> 01:20:36.310
yeah, you're right. The easiest transition is

01:20:36.310 --> 01:20:38.449
definitely start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing,

01:20:38.729 --> 01:20:41.210
and, you know, slowly work your way into MMA.

01:20:42.069 --> 01:20:45.060
And, you know, this is the thing about... Of

01:20:45.060 --> 01:20:47.680
the ultimate fucking casuals. We will let you

01:20:47.680 --> 01:20:50.439
know which fights are going to be good. Which

01:20:50.439 --> 01:20:52.560
ones, you know, if you're not too in tune with

01:20:52.560 --> 01:20:56.439
the grappling, we can get maybe a little tag

01:20:56.439 --> 01:21:00.140
or a little asterisk on certain fights saying,

01:21:00.199 --> 01:21:02.880
like, this is a boxing purist type of fight.

01:21:03.020 --> 01:21:06.399
You can watch this and enjoy this. Like, we'll

01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:10.420
let you know. Yeah, we always try. Like, I came

01:21:10.420 --> 01:21:12.760
into this. The whole show was started with me.

01:21:12.800 --> 01:21:15.689
I didn't know shit. about MMA. I'd never really

01:21:15.689 --> 01:21:18.810
seen an MMA fight in its entirety in my entire

01:21:18.810 --> 01:21:21.989
life. And I came into this with nothing. And

01:21:21.989 --> 01:21:24.170
yeah, that's where we're at now is like, we're

01:21:24.170 --> 01:21:27.729
talking like I make sure I go out of my way to

01:21:27.729 --> 01:21:30.829
bring up Muay Thai and bring up kickboxing so

01:21:30.829 --> 01:21:34.250
that people know like this for boxing fans to

01:21:34.250 --> 01:21:37.210
know this is what this is where you can start.

01:21:38.409 --> 01:21:41.770
All right. Well, yeah, that was about it. I really

01:21:41.770 --> 01:21:44.930
appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac, for jumping

01:21:44.930 --> 01:21:47.489
on real quick. Thanks for having me on. All right.

01:21:47.890 --> 01:21:54.569
All right. Just to get right into it, Nathan,

01:21:54.770 --> 01:21:59.010
you and I both tried the Strikeman dry fire system.

01:22:00.189 --> 01:22:04.869
What did you like about it? No, scratch that.

01:22:04.970 --> 01:22:08.449
What did you dislike? about uh i tried i have

01:22:08.449 --> 01:22:12.050
the 380 acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what

01:22:12.050 --> 01:22:14.710
did you test out and what did you dislike just

01:22:14.710 --> 01:22:20.369
to start off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber

01:22:20.369 --> 01:22:28.529
uh system um and really my only um complaints

01:22:28.529 --> 01:22:30.890
really just came from the platform i was using

01:22:30.890 --> 01:22:36.640
so i my 556 is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic.

01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:42.159
Just in that context, a little tough to use because

01:22:42.159 --> 01:22:46.199
it requires the trigger to be reset before every...

01:22:46.199 --> 01:22:48.739
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,

01:22:48.880 --> 01:22:52.779
right? Right. You're not relying on the gunpowder

01:22:52.779 --> 01:22:56.579
resetting your... recycling around, so you have

01:22:56.579 --> 01:22:59.659
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.

01:23:01.399 --> 01:23:04.670
But, that being said, there's plenty of other

01:23:04.670 --> 01:23:08.850
uh you know different types of systems that use

01:23:08.850 --> 01:23:13.470
five five six you don't have to use uh ar style

01:23:13.470 --> 01:23:16.869
and the auto system yeah work in that context

01:23:16.869 --> 01:23:18.770
when you when you have a big old bolt like that

01:23:18.770 --> 01:23:24.609
um sorry i lost my train of thought there let

01:23:24.609 --> 01:23:27.869
me chop that up but in in that context um it

01:23:27.869 --> 01:23:31.140
was a little tough to use I think this is a system

01:23:31.140 --> 01:23:34.619
that's much more oriented towards either bolt

01:23:34.619 --> 01:23:37.979
action or a pistol style where you could just

01:23:37.979 --> 01:23:42.279
rack the slide, reset the trigger, and then you're

01:23:42.279 --> 01:23:46.119
ready to go. Yeah, I had a similar experience

01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:49.640
on the 6 .5 Creedmoor. I have a bolt action,

01:23:49.840 --> 01:23:53.000
so you don't have to go through the full range

01:23:53.000 --> 01:23:56.420
of motion to get it reset, but you do still have

01:23:56.420 --> 01:24:00.000
to pop. the bolt and then put it back down to

01:24:00.000 --> 01:24:03.140
get, to get the trigger reset. But as you were

01:24:03.140 --> 01:24:07.020
alluding to the pistol version, I have my three

01:24:07.020 --> 01:24:11.180
80 is a single action, double action. So I don't

01:24:11.180 --> 01:24:14.460
have to rack the slide, but I can't, I do still

01:24:14.460 --> 01:24:16.920
have to pull down the, uh, the hammer a little

01:24:16.920 --> 01:24:23.079
bit to get it to fire off. Gotcha. Uh, what about

01:24:23.079 --> 01:24:26.840
the, what did you think about that? I thought

01:24:26.840 --> 01:24:30.079
the app was really cool. The setup was very easy.

01:24:30.140 --> 01:24:32.319
It took less than five minutes to get the whole

01:24:32.319 --> 01:24:36.760
stand and phone configured. I do really like

01:24:36.760 --> 01:24:38.840
a lot of the gamified features that are kind

01:24:38.840 --> 01:24:40.659
of put in there. So there's like some different

01:24:40.659 --> 01:24:43.340
challenges and you can get on kind of leaderboards

01:24:43.340 --> 01:24:46.020
and do matches with people. And I think that's

01:24:46.020 --> 01:24:48.680
just really cool because, you know, when it comes

01:24:48.680 --> 01:24:51.869
to getting better at shooting. one of the best

01:24:51.869 --> 01:24:54.250
ways to do that is learning how to shoot under

01:24:54.250 --> 01:24:57.050
pressure and so having something that's very

01:24:57.050 --> 01:25:00.949
low stakes like this you know that is a it's

01:25:00.949 --> 01:25:04.949
gonna force you to be accurate but um it's gonna

01:25:04.949 --> 01:25:08.470
do so in a way where it's making you you know

01:25:08.470 --> 01:25:11.010
you're not just doing it repetitively to range

01:25:11.010 --> 01:25:12.970
you're trying to almost beat yourself or beat

01:25:12.970 --> 01:25:16.109
a friend and that competition you know that raising

01:25:16.109 --> 01:25:18.670
of the stakes is gonna help you become a calmer

01:25:18.670 --> 01:25:21.890
shot over time i think I really enjoy that aspect

01:25:21.890 --> 01:25:25.850
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard

01:25:25.850 --> 01:25:28.729
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting

01:25:28.729 --> 01:25:33.010
is your max effective range, cut that in half,

01:25:33.189 --> 01:25:35.250
and that's about what you're looking at shooting

01:25:35.250 --> 01:25:40.850
under pressure. So if you're practicing with

01:25:40.850 --> 01:25:45.489
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't

01:25:45.489 --> 01:25:48.319
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You

01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:50.239
know, when you don't have walkers coming down

01:25:50.239 --> 01:25:53.079
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just

01:25:53.079 --> 01:25:56.399
play around with friends. And also, you're doing

01:25:56.399 --> 01:25:58.380
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,

01:25:58.380 --> 01:26:01.899
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock

01:26:01.899 --> 01:26:04.800
market these last few days, and ammo could become

01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:07.880
significantly more expensive. But now with the

01:26:07.880 --> 01:26:13.180
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you

01:26:13.180 --> 01:26:15.899
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.

01:26:17.529 --> 01:26:19.229
You can take your time in the comfort of your

01:26:19.229 --> 01:26:23.250
own home and practice all you want. Man, that

01:26:23.250 --> 01:26:25.770
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.

01:26:25.869 --> 01:26:33.010
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.

01:26:33.250 --> 01:26:36.369
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that

01:26:36.369 --> 01:26:39.689
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.

01:26:39.729 --> 01:26:43.770
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a

01:26:43.770 --> 01:26:48.060
lot more practice. but good to find out here

01:26:48.060 --> 01:26:51.800
i think being on that timer too really shows

01:26:51.800 --> 01:26:55.319
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill

01:26:55.319 --> 01:26:57.699
that i i need to work on you know there might

01:26:57.699 --> 01:27:01.579
be it's also different ranges this is similar

01:27:01.579 --> 01:27:03.989
to like archery or long range shooting really

01:27:03.989 --> 01:27:06.229
but like you could be really good at 100 yards

01:27:06.229 --> 01:27:09.710
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and

01:27:09.710 --> 01:27:12.130
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right

01:27:12.130 --> 01:27:15.649
so this this is you know being able to very quickly

01:27:15.649 --> 01:27:17.689
just change the the ranges that you're shooting

01:27:17.689 --> 01:27:20.930
at again just in your home in your backyard whatever

01:27:20.930 --> 01:27:25.210
like that's a really really helpful uh skill

01:27:25.210 --> 01:27:32.199
you can hone with this system Yeah. Well, overall,

01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:36.239
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?

01:27:36.520 --> 01:27:38.800
It really depends on what it is that you're trying

01:27:38.800 --> 01:27:41.680
to do or what you're trying to practice with.

01:27:42.420 --> 01:27:45.319
I can't speak to any of the other calibers, but

01:27:45.319 --> 01:27:49.899
if it's like a handgun caliber, I always say

01:27:49.899 --> 01:27:53.560
if you can get a single double, get a single

01:27:53.560 --> 01:27:57.159
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.

01:27:58.279 --> 01:28:02.460
nonetheless, it should still help to increase

01:28:02.460 --> 01:28:05.939
your max effective range under pressure. Like

01:28:05.939 --> 01:28:10.399
I said, cut your original in half. Yeah, and

01:28:10.399 --> 01:28:12.399
I agree with that recommendation. I think any

01:28:12.399 --> 01:28:15.020
kind of pistol caliber is really well suited

01:28:15.020 --> 01:28:18.640
to this system. I think if you're going to do

01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.039
rifle, I think bolt action is probably going

01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:24.539
to be your best bet. But yeah, I definitely concur

01:28:24.539 --> 01:28:27.119
with your assessment on on its usefulness as

01:28:27.119 --> 01:28:29.680
a pistol training tool, which I think is, if

01:28:29.680 --> 01:28:31.920
you look at, I think it's what they're aiming

01:28:31.920 --> 01:28:34.060
for. Yeah, I think so too. When they were marketing

01:28:34.060 --> 01:28:37.840
this. So they did well there. I think they have

01:28:37.840 --> 01:28:42.380
shotgun gauges as well. Like that's kind of wild.

01:28:42.920 --> 01:28:46.399
Not what I would have expected for like a dry

01:28:46.399 --> 01:28:49.640
fire kind of training thing, but hey. Oh, that

01:28:49.640 --> 01:28:52.800
sounds like it would actually work because you'd

01:28:52.800 --> 01:28:55.529
just be... for a pump action. Yeah. You just,

01:28:55.609 --> 01:29:01.430
you know, right. Yeah, that's right. So. All

01:29:01.430 --> 01:29:03.310
right. Well, Nate, thanks for jumping on real

01:29:03.310 --> 01:29:05.489
quick. Just wanted to get a little bit on the

01:29:05.489 --> 01:29:13.569
strike men. Give us. Yes, sir. If you want to

01:29:13.569 --> 01:29:16.289
get yourself hooked up with a strike men, a dry

01:29:16.289 --> 01:29:20.609
fire practice system, go to strike men dot LVX

01:29:20.609 --> 01:29:23.680
dot B E. you'll get yourself 15 % off while helping

01:29:23.680 --> 01:29:25.000
us out a little bit in the process.