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Alright, Boxing B -Sides back up in 00:00:49.049 --> 00:00:54.570 your ears. Joined by the one and only Alex. You 00:00:54.570 --> 00:01:02.270 there? Check, check, one, two. And Josh. What's 00:01:02.270 --> 00:01:08.290 up? What's up? Padley. Sorry, I had to throw 00:01:08.290 --> 00:01:13.769 that in there. Padley? No, I could never reduce 00:01:13.769 --> 00:01:20.510 myself to being British. I'd rather reduce myself 00:01:20.510 --> 00:01:22.489 to being British than reducing myself to Shakur 00:01:22.489 --> 00:01:26.819 food. Yeah. which is this that's these both so 00:01:26.819 --> 00:01:29.280 that's the difference yeah what's the difference 00:01:29.280 --> 00:01:38.519 well what the hell of an intro uh usually i would 00:01:38.519 --> 00:01:41.859 bring up some mma stuff but not gonna do that 00:01:41.859 --> 00:01:44.959 this time still ultimate effing casuals if you 00:01:44.959 --> 00:01:47.500 want to start maybe veering in that direction 00:01:47.500 --> 00:01:49.879 a little bit you want to test the waters a little 00:01:49.879 --> 00:01:52.459 bit we can help you out so let's get into the 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.000 fucking recaps there's not a lot of them this 00:01:56.000 --> 00:01:59.719 is gonna this is uh this is gonna be a dire one 00:01:59.719 --> 00:02:04.480 yeah uh so on thursday april 10th fucking eye 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:08.419 of the tiger that is how we are dipping down 00:02:08.419 --> 00:02:12.259 to the bottom of the barrel here um yeah i we're 00:02:12.259 --> 00:02:14.240 like in great depression times yeah this is rough 00:02:14.240 --> 00:02:20.060 boxing got tariff this week uh dimitri asanao 00:02:20.060 --> 00:02:27.400 gets a ud over francesco Fun. It's awesome. There's 00:02:27.400 --> 00:02:29.960 a lot of other stuff on it that I just cannot. 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.560 CBA. That's going to be a 10 -minute podcast. 00:02:34.680 --> 00:02:40.939 Yeah. Break open that emergency. 40 minutes of 00:02:40.939 --> 00:02:44.539 ads, 20 minutes of talking. Oh, shit. 10 of those 00:02:44.539 --> 00:02:48.439 minutes are about with Josh Padley. I'm sorry. 00:02:48.500 --> 00:02:53.159 Yeah, I didn't. God, as much as I love these 00:02:53.159 --> 00:02:55.759 weird Canadian cards, I did not watch this one. 00:02:56.060 --> 00:03:02.180 You know what? I didn't get a chance to see that 00:03:02.180 --> 00:03:06.080 I was kind of hoping to see. Brian Mendoza and 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:08.680 Shane Mosley Jr., they were on that card that 00:03:08.680 --> 00:03:12.159 was in Albuquerque, that Marv Nation that had 00:03:12.159 --> 00:03:16.479 Rampage Jackson as the headliner. And Rashad 00:03:16.479 --> 00:03:19.319 Evans. Yeah, they were boxing their first time. 00:03:20.750 --> 00:03:24.930 Oh, here's something for the Canadian card that 00:03:24.930 --> 00:03:27.490 didn't happen. Wyatt Sanford was supposed to 00:03:27.490 --> 00:03:32.729 make his pro debut against some guy, but it got 00:03:32.729 --> 00:03:38.009 delayed. It got delayed. The TBA, or I guess 00:03:38.009 --> 00:03:44.050 Sean Archer now. Oh, how fun. Yeah. So Shea Mosley 00:03:44.050 --> 00:03:48.919 Jr. won, right? I cannot find results. It's Marv 00:03:48.919 --> 00:03:54.240 Nation, man. Takes a bit. The Thunder Studios 00:03:54.240 --> 00:03:59.680 cards are usually better about it. Hey, but 15 00:03:59.680 --> 00:04:03.919 ,000 tickets were sold. Damn, that's probably 00:04:03.919 --> 00:04:07.219 more than this matchup place. BoxRec can confirm. 00:04:07.580 --> 00:04:13.840 It's either 15 or 15 ,000. If you look at the 00:04:13.840 --> 00:04:20.069 BoxRec page for Shane Mosley Jr. It could be 00:04:20.069 --> 00:04:24.730 either. It could be either. Yeah, I choose to 00:04:24.730 --> 00:04:32.389 believe that. At The Pit, Albuquerque. That's 00:04:32.389 --> 00:04:35.230 the only reason I even got this on my radar was 00:04:35.230 --> 00:04:39.750 because of the name The Pit. It sounds either 00:04:39.750 --> 00:04:43.149 very good or very bad. Fernando Vargas Jr. was 00:04:43.149 --> 00:04:46.100 also on there. I don't even know if he won. No 00:04:46.100 --> 00:04:49.439 results at all. Yeah, no results. Just the ticket 00:04:49.439 --> 00:04:58.480 sales. They sold 15 tickets. Or 15 ,000. That 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:02.740 would make me sad if they only sold 15. Shane 00:05:02.740 --> 00:05:05.699 Mosley Jr. was on the undercard. He's the golden 00:05:05.699 --> 00:05:17.339 boy, right? Yes. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, bye. Man, poor 00:05:17.339 --> 00:05:22.459 Brian Mendoza on this card, though. What a fall 00:05:22.459 --> 00:05:28.160 from grace. Well, like, he killed Fundora and 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:30.939 then immediately got fed the Sioux and Bo -Chuck. 00:05:33.120 --> 00:05:38.939 And then Mendoza ate a bee. That's an emote in 00:05:38.939 --> 00:05:45.220 the Discord. Yeah. His swollen -ass face. Oh, 00:05:45.220 --> 00:05:48.600 yeah. So, Virgil Ortiz is better than Alton? 00:05:51.379 --> 00:05:59.519 Yeah. Seems to be. The triangle theory way? Yeah, 00:05:59.519 --> 00:06:02.759 because Boachuk beat Mendoza, and Mendoza beat 00:06:02.759 --> 00:06:06.600 the fuck out of Andorra. So, Virgil's better 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:08.379 than all of them, which means Virgil should be 00:06:08.379 --> 00:06:13.160 out of speed. He's robbed. Hold on. Bokrum is 00:06:13.160 --> 00:06:22.100 still out here. Yeah, that's true. Demon mode. 00:06:25.120 --> 00:06:30.040 Virgil is undisputed in our hearts. True. He's 00:06:30.040 --> 00:06:36.100 undisputed in my heart. Slightly disputed. Gabriella 00:06:36.100 --> 00:06:38.819 Fundora is in there for you, Alex. That's right. 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:45.180 No, no. is podcast and pro box are my heart yeah 00:06:45.180 --> 00:06:50.019 pro box is the undisputed champ of my heart let's 00:06:50.019 --> 00:07:00.060 move it to boardwalk hall geron ennis what fucking 00:07:00.060 --> 00:07:04.199 let me get some stuff he's him he's him uh chakram 00:07:04.199 --> 00:07:09.519 ghiasov ko4 over franco ocampo um very good to 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:12.980 watch considering the What happened? Yeah. Congratulations. 00:07:13.860 --> 00:07:19.519 Amari Jones, KO1 over William Jackson. The hype 00:07:19.519 --> 00:07:24.660 train continues to build up steam. Oh, yeah. 00:07:25.560 --> 00:07:28.779 Not sure if I could say the same here. Ray Ford, 00:07:28.939 --> 00:07:34.639 UD over Thomas Matisse. He was very good. He 00:07:34.639 --> 00:07:39.100 was very good that night. It's just the guy doesn't 00:07:39.100 --> 00:07:41.339 have a lot of power. You know, that's what I 00:07:41.339 --> 00:07:45.339 was going to say is like I was this is he had 00:07:45.339 --> 00:07:47.300 the kind of performance that you would expect, 00:07:47.560 --> 00:07:52.240 but it didn't end the way that it should when 00:07:52.240 --> 00:07:56.800 you're fighting guys like this. The thing is 00:07:56.800 --> 00:07:59.000 that Ray Ford is again, he doesn't have any power. 00:07:59.100 --> 00:08:01.620 So, I mean, what can you really expect from the 00:08:01.620 --> 00:08:04.639 guy? Right, right. So he's going to outbox the 00:08:04.639 --> 00:08:06.939 hell out of him. He's not going to beat him. 00:08:07.600 --> 00:08:10.459 Shit. As long as he's realistic with himself 00:08:10.459 --> 00:08:13.860 and doesn't talk promise. Especially in the awake 00:08:13.860 --> 00:08:18.480 class. Right. Yeah. Promise like fucking earthquake 00:08:18.480 --> 00:08:24.199 shattering knockouts. Don't do that. He's not 00:08:24.199 --> 00:08:28.439 even on his bike either. He does box. He just 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.840 has no power. Which I like about Ray Ford. I 00:08:32.840 --> 00:08:34.700 do think Ray Ford is a pretty entertaining fighter. 00:08:35.600 --> 00:08:37.399 The guy doesn't have a lot of power. You know, 00:08:37.419 --> 00:08:40.600 I like watching his skill a lot. You know? He's 00:08:40.600 --> 00:08:44.539 like Oscar Valdez. Yeah. Well, no, I think he's 00:08:44.539 --> 00:08:47.659 a lot better than Oscar Valdez. Yeah, he's more 00:08:47.659 --> 00:08:50.620 technically skilled than Valdez. But Valdez gets 00:08:50.620 --> 00:08:58.200 hit, and that makes it exciting in a way. It 00:08:58.200 --> 00:09:03.899 makes it exciting. We'll get to that later. 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And his girl. I don't know about that one. 00:10:59.129 --> 00:11:07.629 I was an early adopter of Boots. I wasn't impressed 00:11:07.629 --> 00:11:10.990 by his performance at all. Really? Is what I 00:11:10.990 --> 00:11:15.509 would say if it was opposite day. You fucking 00:11:15.509 --> 00:11:19.490 got me. You got me, bro. That was a damn good 00:11:19.490 --> 00:11:22.889 performance from Boots. I was stunned. I was 00:11:22.889 --> 00:11:25.679 shocked. And honestly, like... I forgot what 00:11:25.679 --> 00:11:28.600 I said last podcast about Boots. You see why 00:11:28.600 --> 00:11:32.360 Cody Crowley doubted him. Oh, yeah, for sure. 00:11:32.799 --> 00:11:37.039 But last podcast, I remember if I was saying 00:11:37.039 --> 00:11:39.240 that, like, I knew Boots was going to win, of 00:11:39.240 --> 00:11:42.899 course, but I honestly was surprised he won that 00:11:42.899 --> 00:11:49.059 fashion that quick. Well, Karen, like, Chikudzian 00:11:49.059 --> 00:11:55.080 is such a negative opponent. He's so negative. 00:11:56.840 --> 00:12:02.279 Black hole of excitement. Yeah, like, I feel 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:06.960 like anyone could fight him and look bad, and 00:12:06.960 --> 00:12:09.899 it doesn't mean it would be close either. Like 00:12:09.899 --> 00:12:12.980 a Sandler Martin type fighter? More or less, 00:12:13.039 --> 00:12:16.419 yeah. Like, he's just so negative that, like, 00:12:16.460 --> 00:12:21.519 whenever he tried to open up with boots, he got 00:12:21.519 --> 00:12:25.559 hurt. He even got dropped in the second fight. 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:29.100 It's just, he said, like, some people, like, 00:12:29.159 --> 00:12:32.899 just don't grasp that, where, like, the Avenisian 00:12:32.899 --> 00:12:35.299 performance where he just beat the shit out of 00:12:35.299 --> 00:12:38.539 this poor guy. The thing about the Avenisian 00:12:38.539 --> 00:12:40.259 performance is that I don't even remember that. 00:12:40.460 --> 00:12:41.899 The only reason why I remember that performance 00:12:41.899 --> 00:12:46.440 is because of what day it was. That was... You 00:12:46.440 --> 00:12:50.659 guys remember that day? Yeah. That day was crazy, 00:12:50.740 --> 00:12:57.600 huh? I feel like the... You don't remember? What 00:12:57.600 --> 00:13:00.039 was on that day? The assassination attempt? Oh, 00:13:00.039 --> 00:13:03.019 yeah, fuck. Yeah, that was insane. I was working. 00:13:03.200 --> 00:13:06.940 I was like, what the fuck? Oh, I took my 30 and 00:13:06.940 --> 00:13:08.700 one of my coworkers was like, yo, someone just 00:13:08.700 --> 00:13:12.220 shot Trump. And I'm just like, what? Well, maybe 00:13:12.220 --> 00:13:14.960 we shouldn't say that on the air. Nah, it's fine. 00:13:15.019 --> 00:13:16.899 I can cut it. It's a thing that happened. We're 00:13:16.899 --> 00:13:21.019 about to get deported. speak for yourselves. 00:13:21.340 --> 00:13:27.399 We could cut that one out. I feel like the though 00:13:27.399 --> 00:13:29.740 like I feel like the performance like everyone 00:13:29.740 --> 00:13:32.299 should have like in terms of higher tier opponents 00:13:32.299 --> 00:13:38.399 was the Lipnets one. Yeah. Just an ass beating 00:13:38.399 --> 00:13:42.320 against a very similar opponent to Stanionis. 00:13:43.320 --> 00:13:48.029 The thing with this fight again I praise Boots. 00:13:48.049 --> 00:13:50.190 I'm not going to take this win away from him 00:13:50.190 --> 00:13:53.950 at all. He was amazing that night. Like, he looked... 00:13:53.950 --> 00:13:58.830 I don't want to glaze a lot. Go ahead and glaze, 00:13:58.850 --> 00:14:01.289 man. He looked phenomenal. He looked phenomenal, 00:14:01.409 --> 00:14:04.549 no doubt about it. Leo, you remember that other 00:14:04.549 --> 00:14:07.490 day I was arguing with Jacob? That other guy 00:14:07.490 --> 00:14:11.990 in the server? Yes, I think so. And he was like... 00:14:11.990 --> 00:14:15.169 Because he's a Boots Glazer, right? And the thing 00:14:15.169 --> 00:14:18.220 is that... The thing that pissed me off, not 00:14:18.220 --> 00:14:21.139 pissed me off, because I wasn't mad, but it's 00:14:21.139 --> 00:14:24.440 just that guy couldn't understand that Boots 00:14:24.440 --> 00:14:26.700 has his flaws. And in this fight, I still saw 00:14:26.700 --> 00:14:31.720 those flaws, but I don't really think that Staniotis 00:14:31.720 --> 00:14:33.259 wasn't really taking advantage of him as much 00:14:33.259 --> 00:14:35.860 as he could have. You know what I mean? Like, 00:14:35.860 --> 00:14:38.980 the whole standing in the pocket shit, he kind 00:14:38.980 --> 00:14:41.059 of was doing that this time around. Not as often 00:14:41.059 --> 00:14:44.850 as he did last fight. But he still would stand 00:14:44.850 --> 00:14:47.529 straight and wouldn't move around a lot. You 00:14:47.529 --> 00:14:49.049 know what I mean? Oh, yeah. In some aspects of 00:14:49.049 --> 00:14:52.090 the fight. And the thing is that if Stan Jonas, 00:14:52.269 --> 00:14:55.409 I think if Stan Jonas threw more, and he would 00:14:55.409 --> 00:14:58.590 have, because Stan Jonas was catching boots a 00:14:58.590 --> 00:15:01.789 lot. I mean, his accuracy was pretty good. You 00:15:01.789 --> 00:15:05.269 know what I mean? It's just that if he threw 00:15:05.269 --> 00:15:07.750 more, I think he could have done a little more 00:15:07.750 --> 00:15:09.250 damage. The fight could have gone on a lot longer. 00:15:10.750 --> 00:15:14.639 But that should be. That should be. Part of it 00:15:14.639 --> 00:15:19.279 is that Boots isn't just his flashy aspects. 00:15:19.740 --> 00:15:23.860 He's mean. He's got a chin on him. He's aggressive. 00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:27.679 The guy's aggressive. He's mean. He has a chin. 00:15:27.860 --> 00:15:34.059 He can take the shot. We'll see about that in 00:15:34.059 --> 00:15:37.480 the future. I really don't think it was tested 00:15:37.480 --> 00:15:39.879 too much this fight. I don't think so either. 00:15:41.440 --> 00:15:45.960 You know, I think... if Stanios caught him really 00:15:45.960 --> 00:15:49.059 well, because Stanios did catch him, but he caught 00:15:49.059 --> 00:15:53.399 him mainly with jabs and straight crosses, you 00:15:53.399 --> 00:15:55.220 know? But he didn't catch him with a good, really 00:15:55.220 --> 00:15:59.759 good hook, you know? Yeah. I need to see Boots 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.500 take a hook straight to the face from a good 00:16:02.500 --> 00:16:06.320 power puncher to see how much he has. You know 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:08.659 what I mean? That's part of it, though. I don't 00:16:08.659 --> 00:16:10.440 think he's ever going to take, like, a huge, 00:16:10.519 --> 00:16:13.179 huge shot. Like, he's leaky, but it's the... 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:15.960 I feel like it's a similar... I've described 00:16:15.960 --> 00:16:20.539 Tank this way, too, in the past, where you are 00:16:20.539 --> 00:16:23.480 susceptible to a lot of pity -pat shots leaking 00:16:23.480 --> 00:16:26.539 through, but you're aware enough to not get caught 00:16:26.539 --> 00:16:31.659 by something huge. With Tank, I would disagree, 00:16:31.899 --> 00:16:35.100 but we'll talk about that today. I think Keisha 00:16:35.100 --> 00:16:38.820 would catch him pretty well. Yeah. No, I mean, 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.700 obviously, I was proven wrong. rather recently 00:16:41.700 --> 00:16:44.320 with tank but in terms of like boots i feel like 00:16:44.320 --> 00:16:48.659 it's the same principle where like that me he'd 00:16:48.659 --> 00:16:53.480 rather he won't compromise in his offense to 00:16:53.480 --> 00:16:58.480 deal with shots that he doesn't deem worth uh 00:16:58.480 --> 00:17:01.580 dealing with yeah because it's a lot of pity 00:17:01.580 --> 00:17:04.099 pat stuff but as soon as like he gets winged 00:17:04.099 --> 00:17:06.299 with a big shot you can see he's on his game 00:17:06.299 --> 00:17:16.069 defensively Go on. You need someone sneaky. Someone 00:17:16.069 --> 00:17:19.109 sneaky? It's got to be someone sneaky who can 00:17:19.109 --> 00:17:23.190 actually get to him. Which, weirdly enough, a 00:17:23.190 --> 00:17:25.029 fight with Crawford would probably be the most 00:17:25.029 --> 00:17:29.430 fun thing. Because Crawford is sneaky like that. 00:17:29.609 --> 00:17:34.069 Sneaky like that. With Crawford, that would have 00:17:34.069 --> 00:17:35.170 been a great fight, but that's never going to 00:17:35.170 --> 00:17:37.670 happen. No, it's not going to happen. But you 00:17:37.670 --> 00:17:40.890 see what I mean about how Crawford's crafty enough 00:17:40.890 --> 00:17:44.369 to slip in a hard shot instead of making it obvious. 00:17:45.710 --> 00:17:48.130 You see, the thing is, I think the best fight 00:17:48.130 --> 00:17:52.190 to make right now, I mean, what's currently standing 00:17:52.190 --> 00:17:55.369 is a Norman fight, a unification with Norman. 00:17:55.369 --> 00:17:58.470 With Brian Norman, yeah. Because going up, there's 00:17:58.470 --> 00:18:01.250 nobody that he can fight. If he sees that match 00:18:01.250 --> 00:18:04.819 room, There's nobody that he can fight at 154. 00:18:04.920 --> 00:18:08.480 That's worth of shit. At 147, though, I mean, 00:18:08.500 --> 00:18:11.740 Norman is probably more likely to get a fight 00:18:11.740 --> 00:18:14.700 than any of the PBC guys. He's definitely going 00:18:14.700 --> 00:18:19.519 to own Norman. Yeah, everything that Norman does. 00:18:19.859 --> 00:18:22.880 The only thing I would give Norman over boots 00:18:22.880 --> 00:18:26.660 would be hand speed. And even that, I'm seriously 00:18:26.660 --> 00:18:31.529 questioning it now. And power. He does have more 00:18:31.529 --> 00:18:33.630 power than Boots, in my opinion, but I still 00:18:33.630 --> 00:18:36.569 think if Boots is a little reckless, he could 00:18:36.569 --> 00:18:38.470 get caught, and he could potentially get caught 00:18:38.470 --> 00:18:43.069 good. But it's... Boots is... I just... This 00:18:43.069 --> 00:18:45.589 is definitely glazing, but I feel like Boots 00:18:45.589 --> 00:18:48.769 just has the awareness of, like, he knows what's 00:18:48.769 --> 00:18:51.869 coming back at him. Like, it takes someone... 00:18:51.869 --> 00:18:54.589 It takes, like, a special level of either negativity 00:18:54.589 --> 00:18:58.509 or craftiness to spoil that level of awareness. 00:18:59.779 --> 00:19:03.299 You know, I still personally think, and this 00:19:03.299 --> 00:19:06.660 is going to be Blaze too, that Virgil Ortiz would 00:19:06.660 --> 00:19:11.319 beat Boots in a fight. No. It's a style thing, 00:19:11.380 --> 00:19:17.660 though. I don't know. I think Virgil would catch 00:19:17.660 --> 00:19:19.599 him really well. And also the fact that Virgil 00:19:19.599 --> 00:19:21.740 went toe -to -toe with someone like Belichick. 00:19:23.059 --> 00:19:26.099 We know that Belichick has style, right? Boots 00:19:26.099 --> 00:19:28.619 has the movement to not need it, if necessary. 00:19:29.500 --> 00:19:31.279 What I'm saying is I don't think Virgil will 00:19:31.279 --> 00:19:35.319 get done like Stan Jonas. No, not at all. I think 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:39.220 that fight would – it either goes the distance 00:19:39.220 --> 00:19:43.839 for boots or Virgil knocks him out. You know 00:19:43.839 --> 00:19:45.599 what I mean? That's the only ways I see that 00:19:45.599 --> 00:19:50.240 fight going. Well, it could – cumulative punishment 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:56.500 could also happen. I don't know. Virgil went 00:19:56.500 --> 00:20:01.259 to war with – Boa Chuck, dude. Boa Chuck is on 00:20:01.259 --> 00:20:05.200 fire. Boots places his shots in such a way that 00:20:05.200 --> 00:20:13.240 it's mean. It's just mean how he operates. Because 00:20:13.240 --> 00:20:17.859 they're placed in such a way that you're not 00:20:17.859 --> 00:20:21.000 going to like, yeah, he one -shots guys, but 00:20:21.000 --> 00:20:23.400 also they're placed in a way where you feel it. 00:20:24.970 --> 00:20:28.069 He's aggressive. The big reason why I like boots 00:20:28.069 --> 00:20:31.910 a lot is because he's aggressive. He's on the 00:20:31.910 --> 00:20:36.670 front foot. Oh yeah. Again, he has the movement 00:20:36.670 --> 00:20:40.809 and the explosiveness that if you give him something 00:20:40.809 --> 00:20:45.230 worth getting out of the way of, he can get on 00:20:45.230 --> 00:20:49.490 his horse and do that too. You'll do the Crawford 00:20:49.490 --> 00:20:52.970 take a punch to give a punch. Yeah. That's why, 00:20:53.009 --> 00:20:55.509 like, I just don't think anyone except for Crawford 00:20:55.509 --> 00:20:58.630 in the vicinity has that, like, level of craftiness 00:20:58.630 --> 00:21:05.589 to, like, meaningfully harm him. Yeah, I agree. 00:21:05.769 --> 00:21:07.950 But it's Glaze. It's totally Glaze. It's just 00:21:07.950 --> 00:21:09.910 Glaze, though. I was about to say, I think that 00:21:09.910 --> 00:21:11.390 is Glaze because I think someone like Virgil 00:21:11.390 --> 00:21:14.029 Ortiz, who's also very aggressive, who you know 00:21:14.029 --> 00:21:17.650 will come out swinging. Yeah. Could clip boots 00:21:17.650 --> 00:21:21.309 really well. But Virgil would need an extra dimension 00:21:21.309 --> 00:21:24.930 offensively. That I don't think we've seen. Well, 00:21:24.930 --> 00:21:26.630 I think he has more dimensions than Stanley Onus. 00:21:27.289 --> 00:21:31.349 Yeah. For sure. And I think that would obviously 00:21:31.349 --> 00:21:35.670 be Crawford's probably hardest fight. Yeah. Out 00:21:35.670 --> 00:21:36.809 of all the fighters he could fight, he would 00:21:36.809 --> 00:21:40.309 probably be the hardest. And I think that... 00:21:40.309 --> 00:21:42.670 Because the thing with slick fighters is that 00:21:42.670 --> 00:21:46.509 their kryptonite is an aggressive power puncher. 00:21:49.700 --> 00:21:52.519 I don't think you can categorize Boots as just 00:21:52.519 --> 00:21:55.200 slick, though. Well, not just slick, but he is 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:57.359 a slick fighter, though. In my opinion, he is 00:21:57.359 --> 00:22:00.119 a slick fighter. The way he throws punches and 00:22:00.119 --> 00:22:03.720 dodges, he is slick. Oh, absolutely. Again, the 00:22:03.720 --> 00:22:05.180 only problem I have with him is that he just 00:22:05.180 --> 00:22:07.319 likes to stand around sometimes and just takes 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:12.180 punishment for no reason. But, again, I mean, 00:22:12.339 --> 00:22:15.519 that's why he didn't do it much, which I liked, 00:22:15.640 --> 00:22:22.170 you know? I would say hopefully I was wrong about 00:22:22.170 --> 00:22:24.970 the fact that in his last fight with Chuka Sedazian, 00:22:25.069 --> 00:22:28.349 he didn't respect him much. But still, you can 00:22:28.349 --> 00:22:30.029 still get caught with some bullshit, you know 00:22:30.029 --> 00:22:32.230 what I mean? Yeah, but it's just the level of 00:22:32.230 --> 00:22:36.470 craft. Obviously, your level of alertness is 00:22:36.470 --> 00:22:40.529 way higher with someone like Virgil than with 00:22:40.529 --> 00:22:46.009 someone who is just overtly negative as a Terran. 00:22:47.210 --> 00:22:52.329 Yeah, I agree. I'll admit I was wrong about that. 00:22:53.390 --> 00:22:58.930 It's also just spacing. Boots is big and has 00:22:58.930 --> 00:23:01.849 a longer reach than Virgil. It's just the way 00:23:01.849 --> 00:23:08.049 Boots utilizes spacing. A lot of it is getting 00:23:08.049 --> 00:23:11.789 a guy to overextend and then punishing it tenfold. 00:23:14.240 --> 00:23:18.440 Stan Jonas had to overextend. He had to hop in. 00:23:18.759 --> 00:23:23.079 He has to reach the full length of his range 00:23:23.079 --> 00:23:27.000 and a bit more. Just with how Boots positions 00:23:27.000 --> 00:23:31.859 himself. I've also seen a lot of times in the 00:23:31.859 --> 00:23:33.960 fight where Boots also overextended himself. 00:23:34.660 --> 00:23:36.519 Except Stan Jonas didn't really take advantage 00:23:36.519 --> 00:23:39.400 of those overextensions. Do you know what I mean? 00:23:40.220 --> 00:23:42.079 Yeah. I feel like that comes with confidence. 00:23:42.759 --> 00:23:45.869 Yeah. But I feel like that comes in the observation 00:23:45.869 --> 00:23:49.210 period with confidence, right? Like, once Boots 00:23:49.210 --> 00:23:51.329 knows he's better than Stanionis, of course he's 00:23:51.329 --> 00:23:54.150 going to overextend and punish him. Yeah. Yeah, 00:23:54.230 --> 00:23:56.069 that's true. It's a different dynamic of the 00:23:56.069 --> 00:24:00.589 fight. Like, Virgil is on par. He's not... You're 00:24:00.589 --> 00:24:02.710 going to, like... Weirdly enough, Ennis looked 00:24:02.710 --> 00:24:07.549 great, but, like, obviously he can still be sharper, 00:24:07.769 --> 00:24:12.200 if that makes sense. Oh, yeah, sure. We said 00:24:12.200 --> 00:24:14.380 this last time about Jalalov, right? Like, he 00:24:14.380 --> 00:24:17.279 doesn't take it out of first gear because he 00:24:17.279 --> 00:24:20.460 doesn't really have to. Yeah. And that's, I feel 00:24:20.460 --> 00:24:24.660 like, how Enes operates defensively. I disagree 00:24:24.660 --> 00:24:26.519 with that notion. I agree with that notion, but 00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.140 I disagree with him for doing that. Yeah. No, 00:24:30.380 --> 00:24:32.500 like, it's not good that he does it. It's not 00:24:32.500 --> 00:24:35.460 good that he does it, but he does do it. Yeah. 00:24:35.480 --> 00:24:41.150 Yeah, that's right. Yeah. I'm not saying he's 00:24:41.150 --> 00:24:44.089 a genius for making his fights more risky doing 00:24:44.089 --> 00:24:49.670 it, but also, if it isn't fun. Well, I mean, 00:24:49.710 --> 00:24:51.650 I haven't really watched a boots fight that wasn't 00:24:51.650 --> 00:24:55.849 really fun. Yeah. All his fights I have enjoyed. 00:24:56.049 --> 00:24:58.009 They're easy to watch. I think he's good for 00:24:58.009 --> 00:25:01.589 the casual audience. I think I'm surprised that 00:25:01.589 --> 00:25:04.009 he's not really known too much amongst the casual 00:25:04.009 --> 00:25:07.410 audience. Because no one wanted to fight him. 00:25:07.430 --> 00:25:12.190 He was the complete product so quickly. Usually 00:25:12.190 --> 00:25:17.890 with the project guys who aren't amateur standouts. 00:25:18.829 --> 00:25:21.910 Because Boots is technically a project guy. If 00:25:21.910 --> 00:25:25.569 you look at the start of his career to now. But 00:25:25.569 --> 00:25:29.829 the thing is that he developed so into the full 00:25:29.829 --> 00:25:35.319 thing so quickly. There was no room to promote 00:25:35.319 --> 00:25:38.720 him without just giving him bigger fish. Yeah, 00:25:38.859 --> 00:25:40.900 like how, like, Top Rank promotes the prospect. 00:25:41.819 --> 00:25:45.180 Yeah, like, it went, like, you just, like, because 00:25:45.180 --> 00:25:50.559 he was on Showbox. Yeah. And, like, just he outgrew 00:25:50.559 --> 00:25:52.759 that quicker than, like, they could give him 00:25:52.759 --> 00:25:58.079 guys. And also, PBT just does not develop prospects 00:25:58.079 --> 00:26:01.859 well. Well, that's what Showbox is for, but... 00:26:02.079 --> 00:26:06.720 Again, he went from, like, showbox level to world 00:26:06.720 --> 00:26:11.299 title level. And, like, he's been the complete 00:26:11.299 --> 00:26:15.759 product for a while. Well, yeah, he's been the 00:26:15.759 --> 00:26:16.900 complete product for a while, no doubt about 00:26:16.900 --> 00:26:20.619 it, you know. But you also, you need to consider 00:26:20.619 --> 00:26:24.380 the fact that, like, there's a, like, even Lipinets 00:26:24.380 --> 00:26:27.099 at the time was a higher, you need to consider 00:26:27.099 --> 00:26:31.390 the value of the opponent relative to him. at 00:26:31.390 --> 00:26:33.750 the time of their fight at the time of their 00:26:33.750 --> 00:26:36.029 fight like right now yeah we know who boots is 00:26:36.029 --> 00:26:39.410 like the value the value is approximate but like 00:26:39.410 --> 00:26:42.210 at the time of the welterweight like you weren't 00:26:42.210 --> 00:26:46.470 gonna say yeah sure let me send like yeah sure 00:26:46.470 --> 00:26:49.529 hey arrow spence how do you feel about fighting 00:26:49.529 --> 00:26:54.809 boots ennis like who the fuck who's still on 00:26:54.809 --> 00:27:00.970 showbox or uh Like, any welterweight contender 00:27:00.970 --> 00:27:02.950 who was still around at the time, like, Keith 00:27:02.950 --> 00:27:06.450 Thurman was not fighting boots. Well, fuck no. 00:27:07.970 --> 00:27:14.650 Mikey Garcia was not fighting boots. Chris Van 00:27:14.650 --> 00:27:18.130 Heerden? That was... Yeah, like... It's fun. 00:27:19.210 --> 00:27:23.029 Van Heerden got cut and then, like, quit after 00:27:23.029 --> 00:27:28.170 getting his ass beat for a minute. Yeah, in 2019, 00:27:28.930 --> 00:27:33.390 like, me, like, all, like, Sergey Lipnits was 00:27:33.390 --> 00:27:35.450 number nine at welterweight, and he was, like, 00:27:35.529 --> 00:27:39.769 the most reasonable opponent to give boots. Because 00:27:39.769 --> 00:27:44.829 otherwise, it was Ugas, Danny Garcia, Sean Porter, 00:27:45.190 --> 00:27:51.069 Thurman, Pacquiao, Crawford, Spence. That's, 00:27:51.089 --> 00:27:54.529 like, a heavy, like... Which, like, you can't... 00:27:54.910 --> 00:28:00.410 You can't give any of those guys Boots as an 00:28:00.410 --> 00:28:03.130 opponent value -wise because he's on showbox. 00:28:04.130 --> 00:28:06.670 It's like Xander Zayas fighting the other guys 00:28:06.670 --> 00:28:10.869 that have won before. Even if he's ready. No, 00:28:10.990 --> 00:28:14.569 it's worse because Boots was ready. Yeah, I was 00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:17.289 about to say that. I was about to say that. Boots 00:28:17.289 --> 00:28:20.190 is ready versus Xander Zayas. He's not. It's 00:28:20.190 --> 00:28:22.049 like those guys fighting Xander Zayas, though. 00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:25.009 Yeah, you give him lip nads, and then you build 00:28:25.009 --> 00:28:27.690 his profile on undercards. But, like, he's still 00:28:27.690 --> 00:28:30.289 been the finished product. So I understand, especially 00:28:30.289 --> 00:28:33.250 because you can't, you just can't pull a welterweight 00:28:33.250 --> 00:28:38.250 contender who wants to fight him. Because, like, 00:28:38.250 --> 00:28:41.450 even, like, Cody Crowley was offered a career 00:28:41.450 --> 00:28:43.829 high, like, twice as much money as he's ever 00:28:43.829 --> 00:28:47.910 made, a world title opportunity to fight boots. 00:28:49.289 --> 00:28:54.039 And he chose to retire. Yeah. instead of fight 00:28:54.039 --> 00:28:57.380 Boots. He was having trouble within his family 00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:02.440 life. Oh, I know, but also... He would have gotten 00:29:02.440 --> 00:29:06.599 hurt real bad if he wouldn't have been all the 00:29:06.599 --> 00:29:11.519 way focused. Yeah, but I mean, even in the rankings, 00:29:11.680 --> 00:29:14.940 Stanionis beat Butaev, who didn't want to fight 00:29:14.940 --> 00:29:19.839 Boots. I don't know, man. With Boots, I think 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:21.940 he's going to get... Not the benefit of streaming. 00:29:22.359 --> 00:29:26.079 But his career for the next couple of years is 00:29:26.079 --> 00:29:28.559 going to be pretty slow, depending on what decision 00:29:28.559 --> 00:29:32.519 he makes. Because, I mean, if he stays at 147, 00:29:32.579 --> 00:29:34.980 I doubt he's going to get a fight with the other 00:29:34.980 --> 00:29:39.779 champions. Maybe Norman is his probably best 00:29:39.779 --> 00:29:43.779 bet. Because I doubt TBC is not going to give 00:29:43.779 --> 00:29:47.859 the WBC that fucking... As much as I malign Turkey 00:29:47.859 --> 00:29:52.019 Al -Ashiq, Boots is on the right side of the 00:29:52.019 --> 00:29:55.000 street right now. Turkey decides to, especially 00:29:55.000 --> 00:30:00.259 because Turkey loves a good power puncher. I 00:30:00.259 --> 00:30:02.700 feel like Boots is a perfect action figure to 00:30:02.700 --> 00:30:05.400 play with for Turkey. Well, the problem with 00:30:05.400 --> 00:30:09.160 that is it really depends on if they wanted the 00:30:09.160 --> 00:30:11.720 other champions to be on the same card. Because 00:30:11.720 --> 00:30:14.579 I wanted the PBC fighter and I wanted the top 00:30:14.579 --> 00:30:17.019 -ranked fighter. And from what we've seen recently 00:30:17.019 --> 00:30:22.009 in recent boxing politics, They're kind of moving 00:30:22.009 --> 00:30:26.490 away a little bit from that. Well, it's because 00:30:26.490 --> 00:30:29.470 the money's starting to dry up. They're putting 00:30:29.470 --> 00:30:32.950 it into that TKO nonsense. Yeah. But the thing 00:30:32.950 --> 00:30:36.609 is, like, next Riaj season, because right now, 00:30:36.630 --> 00:30:39.630 remember, we're in that dead zone. Like, Riaj 00:30:39.630 --> 00:30:42.410 season starts again, and Saudi Arabia needs a 00:30:42.410 --> 00:30:49.140 supercard, and 154 is basically available. The 00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:53.380 thing with that is it really depends if Boots 00:30:53.380 --> 00:30:56.359 wants to go to 154, which from the way it sounds, 00:30:56.539 --> 00:31:00.799 I really doubt he wants to. And also, I really 00:31:00.799 --> 00:31:02.359 don't think that's a good career decision right 00:31:02.359 --> 00:31:05.259 now unless it was to buy a virtual. But it's 00:31:05.259 --> 00:31:10.440 also like, what does Boots do? Because he only 00:31:10.440 --> 00:31:15.180 has, especially because he's the guy where... 00:31:15.849 --> 00:31:18.410 yeah he's got the fundamentals in check but also 00:31:18.410 --> 00:31:20.650 he's gonna look like shit overnight he's just 00:31:20.650 --> 00:31:23.529 gonna get old one day oh yeah no yeah for sure 00:31:23.529 --> 00:31:25.910 because the way the way he moves that's not sustainable 00:31:25.910 --> 00:31:29.210 no even his power punching like the precision 00:31:29.210 --> 00:31:32.910 comes from the speed it's speed and then placement 00:31:32.910 --> 00:31:38.250 instead of placement first i mean shit his speed 00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:41.680 is impeccable you know no i know but the placement 00:31:41.680 --> 00:31:43.900 it's the placement and speed but once the speed 00:31:43.900 --> 00:31:47.200 goes the placement's gonna go too and the power 00:31:47.200 --> 00:31:49.440 yeah the power's the last to go out of all that 00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:52.240 yeah because his feet's gonna go as well like 00:31:52.240 --> 00:31:55.400 he's 27 he's 27 right now let's say he gets to 00:31:55.400 --> 00:32:03.519 like 33 34 with all of his reflexes intact like 00:32:03.519 --> 00:32:07.309 five years seems like a long time But, like, 00:32:07.490 --> 00:32:09.470 five, six years seems like a long time. But, 00:32:09.490 --> 00:32:14.269 like, if he fights twice a year, fuck, it's short. 00:32:15.269 --> 00:32:19.970 Boy, if he fights, like, in August or July, like, 00:32:19.990 --> 00:32:21.250 that's going to be four times a year, which is 00:32:21.250 --> 00:32:24.549 really, within a year time span, that's pretty 00:32:24.549 --> 00:32:29.109 active. It's good. But, like, the thing is that 00:32:29.109 --> 00:32:35.549 you want these fights to be better than, like, 00:32:36.890 --> 00:32:41.109 Evanesian. Oh, yeah, for sure. Or Castillo Clayton. 00:32:42.049 --> 00:32:46.529 The thing with Boots is that he just... I just 00:32:46.529 --> 00:32:48.430 need to see him fight some good competition like 00:32:48.430 --> 00:32:50.390 Norman. But I doubt they're going to give him 00:32:50.390 --> 00:32:52.809 something like that. That's the best competition 00:32:52.809 --> 00:32:54.930 he has. That's like the only competition he has. 00:32:55.329 --> 00:32:59.430 And it's not even that close. Yeah. It's kind 00:32:59.430 --> 00:33:01.130 of hard because there's not a lot of guys that 00:33:01.130 --> 00:33:02.750 can match him. I think the only guy that can 00:33:02.750 --> 00:33:06.619 really match his level... It's probably Virgil 00:33:06.619 --> 00:33:12.359 at 154. Like, I really, like, him being with 00:33:12.359 --> 00:33:14.880 Matchroom is a double -edged sword because Matchroom, 00:33:14.920 --> 00:33:17.160 just through the Turkey connection, kind of adds 00:33:17.160 --> 00:33:19.500 access to everyone. But when you don't have access 00:33:19.500 --> 00:33:23.480 to anyone, you're in the shits. Yeah. Oh, yeah. 00:33:23.480 --> 00:33:27.539 Like, Michael McKinson is, like, your Matchroom 00:33:27.539 --> 00:33:32.420 option at 147. That's probably his next fight, 00:33:32.480 --> 00:33:35.680 honestly. Or, yeah, so. Which, I don't want to 00:33:35.680 --> 00:33:37.980 be controversial. I really mean this in not the, 00:33:38.119 --> 00:33:41.640 I don't mean this in the rude way at all. Like, 00:33:41.640 --> 00:33:45.059 I'm happy that he, he asked off one. But I don't 00:33:45.059 --> 00:33:47.960 want to see him fight Boots, dude. I really don't. 00:33:47.980 --> 00:33:49.839 Because this is just, I just think what happened 00:33:49.839 --> 00:33:51.900 with his daughter, dude. I would feel so bad 00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:54.240 to see him get beat up like that. It's just pointless, 00:33:54.380 --> 00:33:56.759 too. Like. Yeah, it's pointless. He has Boots. 00:33:56.880 --> 00:34:01.859 Like, he's a guy with a record who's. getting 00:34:01.859 --> 00:34:05.200 up there and then like he just gets his ass beat 00:34:05.200 --> 00:34:07.140 by boots i'm like cool we gotta wait another 00:34:07.140 --> 00:34:11.260 four months or six months or however months to 00:34:11.260 --> 00:34:16.460 see if someone wants to fight him yeah like i 00:34:16.460 --> 00:34:20.340 really wish that like whatever boat like the 00:34:20.340 --> 00:34:25.599 fucking fatal theory oh like i really wish we 00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:30.360 would like so like low key Like, yeah, him fighting 00:34:30.360 --> 00:34:34.000 Ryan is an ass -beating, but also, like, I need 00:34:34.000 --> 00:34:36.900 the promo. Like, what Boots just needs more than 00:34:36.900 --> 00:34:39.380 anything is just, like, good promotion in his 00:34:39.380 --> 00:34:42.000 fights that are more than just, this guy's really 00:34:42.000 --> 00:34:44.860 good. I think a fight with Ryan could probably 00:34:44.860 --> 00:34:46.739 boost his pay -per -view potential. Oh, hell 00:34:46.739 --> 00:34:50.219 yeah. That would get your eyes on him. That would 00:34:50.219 --> 00:34:53.739 definitely, like, that would, like, fucking jumpstart 00:34:53.739 --> 00:34:56.340 his career, you know? The selling point is way 00:34:56.340 --> 00:34:59.989 more than just, hey. This guy is really good. 00:35:00.130 --> 00:35:04.329 The selling point is, like, hey, can Boots talk 00:35:04.329 --> 00:35:09.849 shit? Like, can Boots talk shit? We still don't 00:35:09.849 --> 00:35:11.889 know if Boots can talk shit because he's just 00:35:11.889 --> 00:35:16.550 that good at boxing. I think with Boots, he can 00:35:16.550 --> 00:35:21.210 talk shit for sure. He's a Philly fighter. He's 00:35:21.210 --> 00:35:24.710 going to talk shit. But that's what I mean. As 00:35:24.710 --> 00:35:29.059 soon as... We get, especially with the Bozienis 00:35:29.059 --> 00:35:31.519 there too, we can have the fucking crazy -ass 00:35:31.519 --> 00:35:37.440 fathers. As soon as Boots can cut a promo, even 00:35:37.440 --> 00:35:42.579 if he's the B -side to Ryan Garcia, if he proves 00:35:42.579 --> 00:35:45.440 that he can cut a promo beyond this guy's the 00:35:45.440 --> 00:35:50.739 best in the world, the paydays just present themselves 00:35:50.739 --> 00:35:55.679 by fighting him in Philly. I mean, I think... 00:35:56.199 --> 00:35:58.320 In my opinion, this is very controversial, which 00:35:58.320 --> 00:36:00.280 if you want to call in, you can. Tell me how 00:36:00.280 --> 00:36:03.019 wrong I am. Of course, like how you guys always 00:36:03.019 --> 00:36:07.840 do. I still think if he does fight Ryan, that's 00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:10.639 still a pretty dangerous fight. In my opinion, 00:36:10.679 --> 00:36:12.659 actually, the most dangerous fight for him at 00:36:12.659 --> 00:36:16.820 147. Besides Norman, of course. No, of course. 00:36:17.519 --> 00:36:21.179 Because Ryan's not a scrub. Yeah, Ryan's not 00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:24.480 a scrub. And also, I mean... If Boots does get 00:36:24.480 --> 00:36:29.460 hit with a left hook, dude, he might just fucking, 00:36:29.500 --> 00:36:32.139 you know... See, I'm of the opinion that he beats 00:36:32.139 --> 00:36:36.679 Ryan's ass. But also, like, there's... See, that's 00:36:36.679 --> 00:36:38.460 part of the promo, though. This guy's really 00:36:38.460 --> 00:36:43.420 good. But... Can Ryan beat him? Can Ryan beat 00:36:43.420 --> 00:36:49.159 him? And, like, it's just... It's perfect. Like, 00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:52.619 it's a perfect setup. just for boots is the rest 00:36:52.619 --> 00:36:57.659 of his critique because once he falls off he's 00:36:57.659 --> 00:37:01.000 it's gonna be like you're never gonna want to 00:37:01.000 --> 00:37:02.820 watch him again after he falls off it's gonna 00:37:02.820 --> 00:37:05.980 be like a roy jones level fall off yeah you think 00:37:05.980 --> 00:37:08.860 so or like his fucking magic powers will be gone 00:37:08.860 --> 00:37:11.360 overnight man i actually agree that's actually 00:37:11.360 --> 00:37:13.280 perfect the way you said it the roy jones level 00:37:13.280 --> 00:37:17.130 fall off is if what happens to boots if If he 00:37:17.130 --> 00:37:18.809 falls off, it's going to happen like that. It 00:37:18.809 --> 00:37:22.190 will literally look like he just forgot how to 00:37:22.190 --> 00:37:28.449 move. Just because his legs won't give him what 00:37:28.449 --> 00:37:32.409 he's used to them giving him. And it's a game 00:37:32.409 --> 00:37:35.969 of inches. It's a game of inches. It's like, 00:37:36.030 --> 00:37:38.269 oh, I used to be able to sway and roll a shot 00:37:38.269 --> 00:37:40.309 and then counter. And now it's, why am I getting 00:37:40.309 --> 00:37:44.230 hit by this? Why isn't my counter there? Why 00:37:44.230 --> 00:37:47.530 is my jab just a little short? Like, it's a lot 00:37:47.530 --> 00:37:50.690 of things. I would tell you, dude, I think Boots 00:37:50.690 --> 00:37:55.150 versus Ryan, like, that would be a perfect Riyadh 00:37:55.150 --> 00:37:58.170 event, dude. Like, perfect headliner for a match 00:37:58.170 --> 00:38:00.809 versus Golden Boy fight, dude. Oh, that would 00:38:00.809 --> 00:38:04.230 be a goaded card. That would be, honestly, like, 00:38:04.309 --> 00:38:06.769 again, it's fucking silly because, of course, 00:38:06.789 --> 00:38:10.170 it's Ryan Garcia, but, man, dude, like, I think 00:38:10.170 --> 00:38:12.690 that's potentially, like, $500 ,000 pay -per 00:38:12.690 --> 00:38:17.039 -view, dude. In my opinion. At the very least, 00:38:17.099 --> 00:38:20.699 there's guys like Alexis Rocha and Goldenboy 00:38:20.699 --> 00:38:29.639 to die. Giovanni Santillan, the guy who lost 00:38:29.639 --> 00:38:35.340 to Brian Norman. Don Kingflair. Blair the Flare 00:38:35.340 --> 00:38:40.079 Cobb. Fuck no. Absolutely not. Rohan Polanco. 00:38:42.440 --> 00:38:46.119 I was going to say, at least wheel out Broner. 00:38:47.019 --> 00:38:54.900 I know Blair beat his ass, but also give Broner 00:38:54.900 --> 00:39:06.280 one last good promotion. He's got alimony to 00:39:06.280 --> 00:39:13.840 pay. Plus the fines from when he defrauded some 00:39:13.840 --> 00:39:18.920 NBA players? Exactly. Like, as much as, like, 00:39:18.940 --> 00:39:21.900 he's so washed and it's not even worth Boots' 00:39:21.960 --> 00:39:27.480 time. Like, come on. I need to see Broner one 00:39:27.480 --> 00:39:30.780 last time. I can't have him go down. I can't 00:39:30.780 --> 00:39:37.519 have him go out sad. Oh. Boots versus Broner? 00:39:39.000 --> 00:39:43.389 That would be great. It'd be fun. Boots, the 00:39:43.389 --> 00:39:46.550 promotion would be fun. Like, that's the thing. 00:39:46.550 --> 00:39:48.750 Like, if Boots isn't fighting, like, his legacy 00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.750 fights, the promotions need to be fun. Yeah. 00:39:52.369 --> 00:39:55.769 Yeah. I mean, this promotion itself with Boots 00:39:55.769 --> 00:39:58.150 vs. Dan was just, it was pretty abysmal, honestly. 00:39:58.590 --> 00:40:01.170 Well, because, like, the whole thing is, like, 00:40:01.190 --> 00:40:04.469 Eddie doesn't know how to promote a guy yet, 00:40:04.510 --> 00:40:09.500 still. You either get the, this guy is really 00:40:09.500 --> 00:40:14.659 good, or they promote themselves. Yeah. Like 00:40:14.659 --> 00:40:17.699 with AJ, what promotion did he do with AJ other 00:40:17.699 --> 00:40:20.940 than this guy is really good? And with Usyk, 00:40:21.000 --> 00:40:24.219 this guy is really good. The thing with AJ is 00:40:24.219 --> 00:40:26.860 that he kind of promoted himself. Yeah, because 00:40:26.860 --> 00:40:29.550 he was a brand. AJ was a brand. Yeah, he's also 00:40:29.550 --> 00:40:32.550 a Brit. They love their fighters. You saw him 00:40:32.550 --> 00:40:35.449 when Usyk was with Matchroom. Those promotions 00:40:35.449 --> 00:40:38.010 fucking sucked because all Eddie could ever do 00:40:38.010 --> 00:40:41.550 in any of the advertising was, this guy's really 00:40:41.550 --> 00:40:45.909 good. He's one of the best of all time. He's 00:40:45.909 --> 00:40:52.030 the best today. He's great. The promotion needs 00:40:52.030 --> 00:40:56.230 to be fun. PBC's always done that, though. The 00:40:56.230 --> 00:40:59.239 promotions are great. PBC fights are just legendary. 00:40:59.320 --> 00:41:00.940 Not legendary, but what's the word? Of course, 00:41:00.960 --> 00:41:03.699 legendary, but they're just grand in nature, 00:41:03.820 --> 00:41:06.179 you know what I mean? They're an event. They're 00:41:06.179 --> 00:41:08.440 an event. They're not just a fight. It actually 00:41:08.440 --> 00:41:10.860 feels like a real boxing event, you know what 00:41:10.860 --> 00:41:15.260 I mean? It has that old -school HBO boxing feeling, 00:41:15.320 --> 00:41:19.920 you know? That is just bland. Tank Roach, if 00:41:19.920 --> 00:41:23.199 it were promoted by any group other than PBC, 00:41:23.300 --> 00:41:25.840 would have been a disappointment in how the fight 00:41:25.840 --> 00:41:34.139 went. But just because of the storytelling, like, 00:41:34.199 --> 00:41:37.019 the storytelling and the promotion and just in 00:41:37.019 --> 00:41:43.199 general, like, how PBC is able to, like, do a 00:41:43.199 --> 00:41:47.659 narrative that gets fans invested. They've been 00:41:47.659 --> 00:41:50.820 in the business for years. Yeah, it went from, 00:41:50.960 --> 00:41:53.920 like, ah, Tank Davis was a fraud to, like, damn, 00:41:54.039 --> 00:41:57.519 this Roja guy is good. Let's see a rematch and 00:41:57.519 --> 00:42:00.840 then... That's good how they spin the narrative 00:42:00.840 --> 00:42:03.119 because, you know, Tank is still a fraud, but... 00:42:03.119 --> 00:42:05.840 No, this is... I'm joking, I'm joking, I'm joking. 00:42:05.960 --> 00:42:08.960 Tank's not a fraud. I know, I know. You know, 00:42:09.039 --> 00:42:14.739 he's a little questionable. Well... A fraud watch 00:42:14.739 --> 00:42:20.820 is on hold until the rematch happens. Yeah. 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That's pretty 00:45:17.869 --> 00:45:21.389 cool. Yeah. Now, if you watched Brandon Glanton's 00:45:21.389 --> 00:45:24.610 fight with David Light, that fight was so good. 00:45:26.750 --> 00:45:29.909 And, like, Billum -Smith isn't good enough to 00:45:29.909 --> 00:45:35.920 make it boring, so... It'll be good. Moving up. 00:45:36.420 --> 00:45:40.039 Anthony Yard versus Lyndon Arthur again. Is this 00:45:40.039 --> 00:45:41.659 the third time they're doing this shit? It's 00:45:41.659 --> 00:45:44.639 the third time. They're 1 -1 so far. Oh, that's 00:45:44.639 --> 00:45:46.699 right. I forgot Lyndon Arthur won the first one. 00:45:47.019 --> 00:45:50.219 He squeaked out a split decision in 2020. And 00:45:50.219 --> 00:45:52.619 then got his ass stopped in the fucking fourth. 00:45:53.059 --> 00:45:55.920 That's a pretty conclusive ending to a rivalry, 00:45:56.059 --> 00:45:58.719 in my opinion. Oh, I know. And then Lyndon Arthur 00:45:58.719 --> 00:46:05.750 went on to... Stink it up against Beeble. Yeah. 00:46:05.869 --> 00:46:09.610 I don't think he went above single -digit punches 00:46:09.610 --> 00:46:15.449 in any round. It was actually horrible. Struggle 00:46:15.449 --> 00:46:20.349 against Brian Nahuel Suarez in the depths of 00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:28.050 Argentina. And, yeah. Missed weight. Yeah. Missed 00:46:28.050 --> 00:46:32.159 weight. So... All the things you want to hear 00:46:32.159 --> 00:46:37.460 for an Anthony Yard opponent. Yeah, well. Who 00:46:37.460 --> 00:46:43.059 is either trash or the best in the world. I'm 00:46:43.059 --> 00:46:46.719 thinking Anthony Yard finishes this again in 00:46:46.719 --> 00:46:51.400 the four to six range. Oh, yeah. Doesn't make 00:46:51.400 --> 00:46:57.320 it past half. Hell no. Moving up, Liam Smith 00:46:57.320 --> 00:47:01.000 versus Aaron McKenna. The cash out of Liam Smith 00:47:01.000 --> 00:47:06.860 has begun. If it wasn't already underway. Nope. 00:47:06.960 --> 00:47:12.280 It's been underway for a few years. Yeah. Well, 00:47:12.480 --> 00:47:16.880 Aaron McKenna, brother. He's a brother of Tyrone 00:47:16.880 --> 00:47:21.519 McKenna. Yeah. Hopefully better brother. Yeah. 00:47:22.019 --> 00:47:24.820 I was looking at his brother a few moments ago. 00:47:27.460 --> 00:47:31.760 Very questionable recent string. Man, they've 00:47:31.760 --> 00:47:36.380 been trying to cash out Liam Smith for ages. 00:47:36.500 --> 00:47:39.739 Holy shit. Yeah. They really don't want him anymore, 00:47:39.800 --> 00:47:42.280 I'll tell you that. No, they tried cashing him 00:47:42.280 --> 00:47:45.340 out against Anthony Fowler in 2021, and he just 00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:49.239 cooked Fowler. Same with Sam Eggington. They 00:47:49.239 --> 00:47:52.159 kept trying to cash him out. Liam Williams, same 00:47:52.159 --> 00:47:58.289 thing. Chris Eubank, barely. Maybe, like, six 00:47:58.289 --> 00:48:02.110 times the charm in cashing him out. Maybe he 00:48:02.110 --> 00:48:05.969 used my win. You never know. Yeah. He's had gray 00:48:05.969 --> 00:48:09.570 hair since I was in high school, so maybe. I've 00:48:09.570 --> 00:48:12.530 never known him to not have gray hair. Yeah. 00:48:12.809 --> 00:48:17.610 Fuck. Well, there you go. In the main event, 00:48:17.690 --> 00:48:25.989 Chris Eubank Jr. versus Connor Eggman Ben. The 00:48:25.989 --> 00:48:30.610 Eggman. Dr. Robotnik? Yep, that's exactly what 00:48:30.610 --> 00:48:35.170 I was thinking. Dr. Robotnik. This shit feels 00:48:35.170 --> 00:48:38.750 so contrived to me. This fight's going to suck. 00:48:38.989 --> 00:48:42.050 I am not looking forward to this. I'm going to 00:48:42.050 --> 00:48:45.869 watch, but I'm not going to be excited about 00:48:45.869 --> 00:48:49.769 it. Chris Eubank is washed, but somehow Connor 00:48:49.769 --> 00:48:55.010 Ben is even more washed. Eggwashed? You know 00:48:55.010 --> 00:48:58.570 what? I think you must be sicko this week, dude. 00:48:59.150 --> 00:49:02.110 You think what? I must be a bigger sicko than 00:49:02.110 --> 00:49:03.170 you guys because I'm actually looking forward 00:49:03.170 --> 00:49:04.989 to that fight. Oh, really? What are you looking 00:49:04.989 --> 00:49:07.289 forward to? I like the rest of the card. The 00:49:07.289 --> 00:49:10.150 thing with that fight is only because I want 00:49:10.150 --> 00:49:13.130 to see one of them lose. Fuck, you're just a 00:49:13.130 --> 00:49:18.550 hater. I'm a hater, yeah. Honestly, fuck me because 00:49:18.550 --> 00:49:21.530 I'm going to watch it. Fuck me. No, I mean, I'm 00:49:21.530 --> 00:49:24.019 watching. I mean, I'm watching from, like, the 00:49:24.019 --> 00:49:27.039 Vidal -Riley fight. Pretty much everything, actually, 00:49:27.159 --> 00:49:30.260 looking on it, other than the main event, this 00:49:30.260 --> 00:49:32.719 is actually, like, low -key a pretty decent card. 00:49:33.199 --> 00:49:35.739 Like, if you rearrange it and make the Chris 00:49:35.739 --> 00:49:37.940 Billum -Smith -Brandon Glanton fight the main, 00:49:38.219 --> 00:49:42.119 it's solid. Yeah, it's solid. But, like, that 00:49:42.119 --> 00:49:45.239 fight's going to be so fun. We'll see what happens. 00:49:45.719 --> 00:49:49.420 The fight's going to be so fun. And then, you 00:49:49.420 --> 00:49:52.559 know, like... Man, if Anthony Yard doesn't beat 00:49:52.559 --> 00:49:55.139 Lyndon Arthur in like three rounds, I'm going 00:49:55.139 --> 00:49:58.099 to be disappointed. I think you are going to 00:49:58.099 --> 00:49:59.880 be disappointed. I'm going to be disappointed. 00:50:00.739 --> 00:50:03.800 No matter what. He should retire. Yeah, it'd 00:50:03.800 --> 00:50:07.500 be time to hang him up, buddy. Give it up. Give 00:50:07.500 --> 00:50:11.559 it up, buddy. And Lyndon Arthur can go on to, 00:50:11.659 --> 00:50:16.579 I don't know, lose to Callum Smith or something. 00:50:19.199 --> 00:50:21.739 That's just sad, man. Come on. That's not very 00:50:21.739 --> 00:50:28.159 nice. He already got his shot. He got his shot 00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:33.579 against Bivol and threw about as many punches 00:50:33.579 --> 00:50:38.420 as I did sitting on the couch. I'll tell you 00:50:38.420 --> 00:50:43.619 one thing about fucking... I'm surprised at how 00:50:43.619 --> 00:50:46.880 many... How long he stayed in contention for 00:50:46.880 --> 00:50:50.059 a title, man. I'm surprised. I mean, he just 00:50:50.059 --> 00:50:53.659 beat Bilazzi in a pretty good fight. Yeah, but 00:50:53.659 --> 00:50:57.239 now he's going to be mandatory again, right? 00:50:57.400 --> 00:50:59.900 Yeah, good for him. Well, he just doesn't lose. 00:51:00.440 --> 00:51:03.820 He wins the fights he needs to. He always comes 00:51:03.820 --> 00:51:07.679 back, you know? The man always comes back. And 00:51:07.679 --> 00:51:10.599 I respect that, you know? And I'm happy he can 00:51:10.599 --> 00:51:14.730 do it. It's just... every time he goes up to 00:51:14.730 --> 00:51:16.710 like a world class fighter like Canelo or better 00:51:16.710 --> 00:51:21.530 he could lose this you know well he's never lost 00:51:21.530 --> 00:51:25.010 that bad like yeah Canelo beat his ass but also 00:51:25.010 --> 00:51:28.190 like how much punishment aside from his arm did 00:51:28.190 --> 00:51:31.210 he really take same with Better BF like Better 00:51:31.210 --> 00:51:34.690 BF put it on him but also that's not the worst 00:51:34.690 --> 00:51:37.010 Better BF that's not the worst that Better BF's 00:51:37.010 --> 00:51:40.269 ever beat someone's ass like True, but, I mean, 00:51:40.449 --> 00:51:43.710 come on. Marcus Brown had a splash zone with 00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:46.829 how bad he was beating him. Well, the thing with 00:51:46.829 --> 00:51:49.610 Betterbeef is he did beat him pretty... He didn't 00:51:49.610 --> 00:51:52.010 beat him horrible, but he did beat him pretty... 00:51:52.010 --> 00:51:56.869 He got his ass beat, but, like, it's recoverable. 00:51:56.969 --> 00:52:00.829 It's not, like, career -changing. Yeah, I guess 00:52:00.829 --> 00:52:04.210 you're right, yeah. Yeah, seriously. Like, with 00:52:04.210 --> 00:52:07.329 Joe Smith Jr., fuck, like... Oh, no, okay, that 00:52:07.329 --> 00:52:11.530 was... That was horrible. Marcus Brown had to 00:52:11.530 --> 00:52:19.010 splash them ringside. Both guys were cut, and 00:52:19.010 --> 00:52:22.510 then Marcus Brown's face just kind of got turned 00:52:22.510 --> 00:52:25.929 into mush. They're like, we're going to stop 00:52:25.929 --> 00:52:29.010 this in two rounds if it's still bleeding, so 00:52:29.010 --> 00:52:32.670 better be able to just fucking kill them. That 00:52:32.670 --> 00:52:35.730 was one of the scariest things I've seen from 00:52:35.730 --> 00:52:41.960 a fight. Kvazdik retired for several years after 00:52:41.960 --> 00:52:47.920 Beterbiev made him rethink his life. Made him 00:52:47.920 --> 00:52:53.800 rethink his life. It's tough. Calum Smith, pretty 00:52:53.800 --> 00:52:55.880 recoverable because he just got stopped. It's 00:52:55.880 --> 00:53:00.139 not like he got turned into paste. Yeah, you're 00:53:00.139 --> 00:53:02.719 right. I take back what I said. You were right. 00:53:03.059 --> 00:53:05.659 And he wins the fights he should to stay in contention. 00:53:06.409 --> 00:53:09.710 Why not? You're right. You are absolutely right. 00:53:10.690 --> 00:53:13.190 Bivol's arguably more winnable than Beterbiev 00:53:13.190 --> 00:53:18.769 for him, too. And... Not by much. That's kind 00:53:18.769 --> 00:53:22.070 of wild. That is a really wild take, in my opinion. 00:53:22.710 --> 00:53:25.570 Well, it's just, like, the thing... He's too 00:53:25.570 --> 00:53:30.789 stationary to not get teed off on by Beterbiev. 00:53:31.210 --> 00:53:33.730 You think you'd have an easier time with Bivol? 00:53:34.989 --> 00:53:39.329 Oh, he loses both. But he loses both, obviously. 00:53:39.489 --> 00:53:42.889 But I think Bivel's the more doable one. I mean, 00:53:42.909 --> 00:53:45.010 yeah, I guess more doable, but I think you're 00:53:45.010 --> 00:53:46.849 not going to win against Bivel. Like, it's a 00:53:46.849 --> 00:53:52.989 0 % to 1%, but at the very least, like, Bivel, 00:53:53.010 --> 00:53:55.190 you're never at risk of getting stopped by Bivel 00:53:55.190 --> 00:54:00.130 if you're Callum Smith. Well, I'm... I mean, 00:54:00.130 --> 00:54:02.510 you're at risk in every fight, you know. Don't 00:54:02.510 --> 00:54:05.590 forget, a man can always get knocked out. Oh, 00:54:05.590 --> 00:54:08.469 of course. But, like, in terms of, like... Like, 00:54:08.510 --> 00:54:11.309 if you're a stationary big man, like, your style 00:54:11.309 --> 00:54:14.889 is pretty stationary, you're rather the guy who... 00:54:14.889 --> 00:54:17.710 Nothing but decisions, except for, like, the 00:54:17.710 --> 00:54:26.400 fluke against Sanad. Or a guy who... literally 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:28.900 made his living beating the shit out of stationary, 00:54:29.179 --> 00:54:32.260 like, out of guys much more mobile than you are. 00:54:33.059 --> 00:54:37.079 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I know this might 00:54:37.079 --> 00:54:39.619 sound silly. I think he would have a better chance 00:54:39.619 --> 00:54:43.579 against Better Beef than B -Bowl. I get that. 00:54:43.619 --> 00:54:44.940 That sounds funny because he already fought Better 00:54:44.940 --> 00:54:46.440 Beef, but B -Bowl is not going to win that at 00:54:46.440 --> 00:54:50.440 all. He's a fucking god. Yeah. I guess. That's 00:54:50.440 --> 00:54:53.639 wild. That's wild. But he's a generational talent. 00:54:54.170 --> 00:54:56.849 Like, you're not beating him at all. You know, 00:54:56.869 --> 00:54:59.309 unless you knock him out. But better be, I mean, 00:54:59.309 --> 00:55:02.090 with him. I think Benavidez. I think Benavidez 00:55:02.090 --> 00:55:05.869 has a good shot, actually. Against Cal Smith? 00:55:05.989 --> 00:55:08.949 Of course, yeah. Against Bivol. It's Bivol. Oh, 00:55:08.949 --> 00:55:13.170 shit. That's even crazier. I mean, yeah, I think 00:55:13.170 --> 00:55:18.190 it would be. It would be. He's alive. He's alive. 00:55:18.309 --> 00:55:21.510 Yeah, he's alive. I think a easier fight would 00:55:21.510 --> 00:55:23.429 have been with better beef, in my opinion. Yeah. 00:55:24.000 --> 00:55:26.840 But I just think, like, the traps Benavidez sets 00:55:26.840 --> 00:55:32.639 to, like, deny athleticism on offense is, like, 00:55:32.800 --> 00:55:36.199 with, like, Morel. Morel's a big, like, athletic 00:55:36.199 --> 00:55:40.460 guy when you see him. Like, he's big on athleticism, 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.119 and you just see some of the traps. Same with 00:55:42.119 --> 00:55:44.059 Andrade, actually, too, if we're talking about 00:55:44.059 --> 00:55:47.460 movement. I mean, yeah. But Benavidez just is... 00:55:47.460 --> 00:55:53.219 Well, I mean, it's not, like, it's, like... It's 00:55:53.219 --> 00:55:55.619 up to how much Bibble wants to engage too, because 00:55:55.619 --> 00:55:59.480 Benavidez, he's just crafty. He's very crafty, 00:55:59.480 --> 00:56:03.000 and it's not like Bibble needs to fall for it 00:56:03.000 --> 00:56:05.519 fully. It's just enough to get a bit of momentum 00:56:05.519 --> 00:56:08.719 here and there, and then... In my opinion, I 00:56:08.719 --> 00:56:12.159 think whoever hosts that card, if they ever fight, 00:56:12.519 --> 00:56:14.159 they're a fighter who's going to win. If it's 00:56:14.159 --> 00:56:16.199 a matching card, Bibble's going to win. If it's 00:56:16.199 --> 00:56:20.090 a PBC fight... I don't think Benavidez can win 00:56:20.090 --> 00:56:21.869 a decision against Bivol just because of the 00:56:21.869 --> 00:56:23.829 amount of time it would take to set the traps. 00:56:24.230 --> 00:56:29.110 Oh, hell yeah. Let's say Bivol is absolutely 00:56:29.110 --> 00:56:32.309 impervious to a lot of Benavidez's early offense. 00:56:32.510 --> 00:56:35.590 By the time it gets remotely competitive, there's 00:56:35.590 --> 00:56:37.530 like five early rounds that are banked and it's 00:56:37.530 --> 00:56:42.840 done. But the thing is that Bivol... Like, the 00:56:42.840 --> 00:56:45.500 thing is that Benavidez is just, he's young and 00:56:45.500 --> 00:56:48.260 athletic. He doesn't have the knees of a 60 -year 00:56:48.260 --> 00:56:50.440 -old who, like, he doesn't have twice operated 00:56:50.440 --> 00:56:53.300 on knees. But in my opinion, I mean, Bivol's 00:56:53.300 --> 00:56:56.659 even more athletic than Benavidez. Yeah, but 00:56:56.659 --> 00:57:00.099 the thing is that Bivol already has trouble maneuvering 00:57:00.099 --> 00:57:05.239 out of Beterbiev's traps. And Beterbiev is 40 00:57:05.239 --> 00:57:08.300 and has the knees of a geriatric man just due 00:57:08.300 --> 00:57:13.110 to his injuries. In regards to movement. You're 00:57:13.110 --> 00:57:15.809 making a really good use of Benavidez. So. Yeah. 00:57:16.050 --> 00:57:19.110 Like Benavidez. If Benavidez is setting a similar 00:57:19.110 --> 00:57:21.530 type of trap. But with a bit more volume. And 00:57:21.530 --> 00:57:26.889 a bit more athleticism. Yeah. I mean. Dude. You 00:57:26.889 --> 00:57:28.570 could probably. Just give you something to think 00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:31.289 about. Yeah. Yeah. I mean. That's making me think 00:57:31.289 --> 00:57:33.769 about it right now. Yeah. Very good insight. 00:57:36.289 --> 00:57:40.130 Well. Hey. Well this has been fantastic. I've 00:57:40.130 --> 00:57:43.489 just been enjoying the conversation. That's all 00:57:43.489 --> 00:57:45.489 we got, though. That was it. To bring it back 00:57:45.489 --> 00:57:49.269 around. Chris Eubank Jr., Connor Ben. I hope 00:57:49.269 --> 00:57:51.730 you knock each other out at the same time. And 00:57:51.730 --> 00:57:55.010 nobody wins. Let me do this. They're going to 00:57:55.010 --> 00:57:58.150 fight again. We have to redo this. Of course 00:57:58.150 --> 00:58:03.929 they are. We have to redo this circus. I had 00:58:03.929 --> 00:58:06.829 technical difficulties. I'm sorry. I don't know 00:58:06.829 --> 00:58:09.809 why it turned out for me. He left and rejoined. 00:58:10.050 --> 00:58:14.030 I think I was so happy about what Josh told me 00:58:14.030 --> 00:58:16.670 about Benavidez maybe winning. I think I just 00:58:16.670 --> 00:58:20.210 overreacted. You had to go share it with the 00:58:20.210 --> 00:58:26.250 world. Everybody! Benavidez is a champ! Well, 00:58:26.269 --> 00:58:30.570 actually, Benavidez is now a champ. Oh yeah, 00:58:30.710 --> 00:58:34.250 email champ. I honestly think with these podcasts, 00:58:34.510 --> 00:58:37.199 I think... We should spend a little bit of time 00:58:37.199 --> 00:58:39.000 just talking about some of the politics that 00:58:39.000 --> 00:58:40.699 go on. Because some of the things that go on, 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:43.760 we don't really talk about here. We got to talk 00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.539 sometimes about the politics. I feel like that's 00:58:46.539 --> 00:58:49.199 when we get more of a viewer base, though. Like 00:58:49.199 --> 00:58:53.179 right now, we need the... We're just starting. 00:58:53.920 --> 00:58:57.360 We need the broad scope. We could talk about 00:58:57.360 --> 00:59:00.639 the fights. And yeah, we're still for hardcores, 00:59:00.639 --> 00:59:03.639 but it's something more listenable to than... 00:59:04.110 --> 00:59:07.090 Yeah, Al Heyman only makes this much money, and 00:59:07.090 --> 00:59:11.829 to stay below the second apron luxury tax on 00:59:11.829 --> 00:59:14.409 a card, he needs to only pay guys this much, 00:59:14.530 --> 00:59:16.469 and that's why this guy can't fight this guy 00:59:16.469 --> 00:59:19.389 at this time in this state. I'm not talking about 00:59:19.389 --> 00:59:21.530 that. I'm talking about more of the drama and 00:59:21.530 --> 00:59:24.690 shit. Yeah, that too. Like Benavidez, or people 00:59:24.690 --> 00:59:26.949 talking about ducking Benavidez. That was kind 00:59:26.949 --> 00:59:29.329 of big news this week. I don't think it's ducking 00:59:29.329 --> 00:59:31.150 more than it is like they were going to do a 00:59:31.150 --> 00:59:33.110 trilogy from the second to this time, the first 00:59:33.110 --> 00:59:35.320 fight. that's not ducky i'm just saying like 00:59:35.320 --> 00:59:37.579 the view that yeah was ducky benavidez you know 00:59:37.579 --> 00:59:40.119 yeah i i'm just saying like maybe one day we 00:59:40.119 --> 00:59:42.199 should like maybe implement just go over some 00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:45.059 news yeah yeah some boxing news like you know 00:59:45.059 --> 00:59:48.099 yeah like oh ryan garcia was calling pads you 00:59:48.099 --> 00:59:49.679 know or some you know some bullshit like that 00:59:49.679 --> 00:59:54.739 yeah yeah this is that is to you know this recommendation 00:59:59.259 --> 01:00:01.280 You've been listening to The Boxing B -Sides, 01:00:01.380 --> 01:00:03.639 a Lux Media production. 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