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You're really sad. Yeah, I saw that. I was like,
man. That was my first Batman, was Val Kilmer.
Yeah, Val Kilmer was one of my Hollywood crushes
as a kid. I can see why. He's a very handsome
dude. It's going to sound like a weird role to
choose. But him as Doc Holliday in Tombstone.
I absolutely see why that would be. I said this
to somebody and they're like, you mean the sick
dying version of Val Kilmer. Yeah, but he was
dying in a hot way. Oh. So was that like Florence
Nightingale kind of thing? No, I don't think
so. I think Val Kilmer is a good -looking man,
and I like Tombstone the movie. It's a great,
great movie. I've been trying to find it to re
-watch it, but it's not on any of the streamers.
I can oblige. Nice. Oh, man. I remember... Was
he top secret? Do you know Top Secret? No, I
don't know about Top Secret. One second. I can't
remember if that's him or Johnny Depp. I can't
tell from the... Yeah. Okay, Top Secret is like
airplane style comedy, but James Bond -ish. Anyways,
you should go find it. Kind of, but different.
Yeah, airplane style versus the really... overtly
campy type of shit that Austin Powers did. What's
the little blurb they give? My Google's back
to being in Japanese and I don't know why. Okay,
top secret. An American rock and roll singer
is invited to a cultural festival in East Germany
in order to distract from a plot to destroy NATO
submarines, but he accidentally becomes involved
in a resistance plot to rescue an imprisoned
scientist. okay all right val kilmer is the rock
and roll star but like at one point he's crawling
through a field and he like crawls up to a pair
of boots and they're just boots in a field and
then he does it again but the boots move but
it's a cow wearing rubber boots what the hell
okay yeah this is you have to go find it this
sounds like um Get Him to the Greek meets Austin
Powers. I haven't seen it for decades, but I
think that is probably pretty fair. I just remember
it feeling like Airplane. Like that stupid kind
of, yeah. That's what Austin Powers is. That's
really silly. Kung Pao, Enter the Fist. Yeah.
That type of silliness. It's Val Kilmer being
a comedy star and not like an action star. Or
drama type. Yeah. Yeah. Because like Batman Forever
felt a lot more like a drama than it did like
a Batman action movie. The same way some of the
others did. Yeah. Man. He's been really sick
for a while though. I guess it's not. Yeah. It
was like pneumonia for like the third time or
something. yeah well he had throat cancer or
whatever like a long time ago didn't he that's
why he quit acting he could hardly talk anymore
i didn't know that that's that was years ago
that makes it makes sense that that way like
he was in what was that movie like uh gruber
or something like mcgruber yeah some shit it
was like a cheesy action movie And he was the
big bad in that one. He had a big scar from surgery.
That's why he always wore scarves at the end.
Oh, I see. In that one, he let it be visible.
And it was part of his big bad persona. Nice.
Yeah, I remember that. I remember because MacGruber...
The movie was MacGruber. Man, who was the 80s
star, like would fix anything with like a paper
clip and a rubber band? MacGyver. MacGyver. So
it was like MacGruber was like a play on MacGyver.
And we had a guy in my unit at the time. His
name was Gruber. So he just became MacGruber.
And he had no say in it as much as he disliked
it. The more he complained, the more it became
cemented. Of course. Yep. Sorry, group. Man,
is this a good time for like a little formal
intro? Where's your soju and soju drop shots?
Drop shot drinks. I could go grab my soju, but
it's peach flavored. I have purple punch big
sips. Nice. pre -game cocktail pound one before
you go into wherever you're going and save yourself
a little yep little drink ball bombs isn't there
one that's like balls okay yep yeah i thought
there was one that was also something bombs and
they look like little cartoony bombs maybe i
am gonna get my soju yeah do it it's saturday
i'll be right back yep Oh, boy. Oh, it's a party
now. I had a Korean guy making fun of me because
I buy the flavored one, man. OK, well, it probably
helped when I lived in Korea that I would always
like I'd go shopping with my girlfriend. And
so like if I bought anything, quote unquote,
girly, nobody would ever say anything. Yeah.
Well, also, I'm a girl, so. Yeah, no shit. Like,
what the fuck? Like, I could buy girly shit because
I had a girl with me. You're a girl buying girly
shit. What's the fucking deal? Yeah, who cares?
But also, they are still, what are they, 10 %
alcohol? They're like regular wines. Yeah, they're
like 10 % to 15 % depending on which one you
get. I can't actually find it on here because
it's all in Japanese. I think this one's 13%.
Anyways, doesn't matter. Not the point. I just
buy them like wine coolers. With the flavored
ones, yeah. You could get like a really strong
wine cooler. So I was just, you know, I grabbed
a bag of chips and I think two of the sojus.
I was like, fuck it. I'm going to get tipsy tonight.
And this guy's like, oh, drinking the girly drinks.
And I was like, yup. As opposed to what? Any
drink that I get, if I'm a girl, any drink I
get is a girly drink. It doesn't matter. I could
get the dumpster water flavored something or
other, and it would still be girly. Oh, fuck.
Speaking of girls' drinks, they have... uh jim
beam peach flavored whiskey yeah you mentioned
that yeah i still can't find my crown royal i'm
pissed you know crown royal with the flavored
stuff they make uh canned cocktails and there's
they have a peach one an apple one and then like
a regular uh crown and coke nice yeah they make
just like peach flavored crown royal yeah i'm
familiar I think it's still 40%. Like, I don't
think they water it down very much. No, they
don't. And it's fucking dangerous. I know. I
know. I've had some wild nights with Crown Royal.
Me and one of my friends bought, like, the regular
-sized bottle, a 2 -6 or whatever, and we accidentally
drank the whole thing. And I was like, how does
this fucking happen as an accident? I was so
wrecked. Didn't make it home, slept on his floor
with his dog, woke up the next day, hung over
his fuck, and I'm like, but it tastes like peaches.
It tastes like peach juice. That's what it tastes
like. For the uninitiated, like crown, peach
crown is like the syrup that's inside of like
canned peaches. Just a little, not as thick,
but it is that sweet. It's so good. And it's
really dangerous. It's built for making cocktails,
but I'm a lazy piece of shit, so I just drink
it on ice. Well, all right. Let me give us a
little formal introduction here. Boxing before
dark. Boxing before dark. I decided to put in
a little X on the... I don't know if you noticed,
but rather than being BBD, because, you know,
you know, it's BXBD now, but still fun. Boxing
before dark. It's all the boxing and a lot more
fun. Like crown peach fun. I get so off topic.
We had to just get me away from the main show.
No, it's not just you. Something I noticed that
happened with Drip a lot is we would have a lot
of stuff in the weeds, and he'd be like, what
the fuck are you guys talking about? I'm like,
hey, this is important. But then I realized it's
not important. At all. Nobody gives a shit. So
that's Boxing Before Dark. We're here to talk
about the shit that may not make a regular podcast.
But still, if you want to get... further into
the weeds than boxing b -sides we're here to
get you nice and uh crawling through the fields
up to some rubber boots top secret style top
secret uh all right um so first things first
farmer tevin farmer reveals that he has tourette
syndrome I want you to gloat. Go ahead. You called
it. I fucking called this. You called it. I called
this. Everybody was telling me it was all in
my head, that there was nothing going on. You're
seeing things. No, you're overthinking it. It's
not that big a deal. Not some sort of neural
damage, but definitely a clear tick that I did
not make up. I fucking called it. I noticed the
tick. I just wasn't sure if it was as bad as
you were thinking it was. It's pretty bad. It
is very noticeable. For people who are saying
you were making it up, it's like, man, are you
watching Tevin Farmer? Are we watching the same
person right now? Because there's clearly something
going on. I am glad that it's something not damage
-related. Yeah, it's more innocuous than... something
else but i do think it did get worse after his
um jojo diaz after jojo diaz fight yeah and that's
when he took that long time off so i wonder if
they weren't trying to get him dialed in on i
don't know is there even medicine for torrents
not the type that's gonna get you to stop ticking
you it'll it'll uh dampen it but not not to the
point that it disappears Right. I wonder if he
needed some time to dial in something that let
him keep boxing. How to channel your tick. Yeah.
Rather than letting it be a tell. And the fucking
announcers keep saying he's looking up at the
score clock or the time clock or whatever. And
I'm like, no, he's not, guys. That is not what
this is. Man. Anyways, I have queued up. the
voice thing insert here vindication all right
vindication i love brooklyn 99 oh i've been meaning
to watch that you've never seen it it's really
good highly recommend it i'm still uh trying
to work my way through modern family which is
100 up my alley and i know brooklyn 99 is too
i've seen Some of Modern Family, but I've never
sat down and watched it. Oh, while we're in the
weeds again, the second season of Windbreaker
has started. The teen school gang fighting anime
I like. Oh, yeah. Fucking first episode of season
two just starts with an all out gang war. And
you're like, what the hell happened? How did
we get here? How did we go from the end of season
one to this? I mean, it kind of makes sense,
but also just like no buildup at all. It's just,
all right, guess we're busting in and kicking
the shit out of these guys. Rather than like
an upward checkmark, we're checkmarking down
and we're going to dip from here and then build
back up to something else. I think it's just
we're going to start at the top and fucking buckle
in, boys. Because, yeah, we're going. we're going
top speed yeah uh fire force is also getting
season three but it's been so long since season
two i gotta re -watch it season one i've seen
like six times these sound directing i don't
know what you call that it's amazing in fire
force they use like negative sound somehow i
don't know how to describe it yeah super cool
that's yeah that sounds actually pretty interesting
The sound mixing is the best in anime, and the
visuals are cool. The world's cool. I just really
like Fire Force. Well, speaking of sound, should
they let boxers avoid the post -fight interview
in the ring immediately after the fight? I think
yes. I think so too. If they don't want to take
it, they shouldn't have to. I like... Because
that was Claudia Trejo, right? Yes. I put this
on to discuss because Farmer said he didn't want
to do the interview. He said twice and was trying
to walk away, and they told him he had to. And
then people got mad about what he had to say.
He warned you twice. Yeah, and he didn't even
say anything that bad. No, nothing that was all
that questionable. He said what you would expect
from a guy who just lost a super close fight
for the second time. He said all the things that
you would expect. I don't know what I have to
do to get the judges on my side. Of course, I'm
going to lose in his hometown. All the hallmarks
of what you'd expect. I don't see why people
would be upset about what he said. Well, and
he even opened it up with the generic, like,
I am not mad at Zepeda. Zepeda's a good fighter.
He did what he's supposed to do. But, like, just
let the guy go be angry and interview him at
the end. Didn't they let one of the Malonis just
walk out of the ring and go cry and pout? tantrum
tantrum yeah tantrum in the fucking dressing
room come on man i don't know why they stopped
farmer he was trying to walk away and they stopped
him and then he's like i don't want to do this
and they're like and then they're like oh but
you know you can't be mad at boxing Uh, no, I
can be bad at correction. I am mad at boxing.
I am not mad at like Williams of Peta. It's not
the same shit that we say. Like I say anyway,
with robberies is like, um, just, just an example.
Um, in over on the MMA side, there's this guy
named, uh, Bautista who ended up winning a very.
obviously shitty decision and so like i later
on we're talking about like who's he gonna fight
next what are his next options and then we're
i i'm always thinking of what how can i get his
ass beat the most Because he needs to fucking
pay for the shitty decision that had nothing
to do with him. Not at all his fault. He did
not make the judges do anything. But he was the
beneficiary. So, he has to suffer for it. Which
is also shitty. It is. 90 % of the time, the
sponsors have done absolutely nothing. It's not
Zepeda's fault. It's not over on the MMA guy,
Bautista. It's not his fault. He didn't make
the judges do anything. But. But he's the one
that has to pay for it because he's the one that
benefited from it. And he's the one that's going
to be in the ring. Right. Yeah. It's unfortunate.
Maybe we should put the judges that gave him
that shitty decision into the ring or the cage
or whatever. Like, okay, you want to score it?
You want to score it 8 -4 for Zepeda? How about
Tevin Farmer? He's about to give you an 8 -4.
How about that? Yeah, he gets 8 -4 minutes, depending
how long you live. Yeah, 8 -4 minutes, and that's
what he's going to get on you. And then we'll
see how you score the next one. If you score
the next one. I don't know. I don't know how
you fix it. You can't, but... I do feel bad for
Farmer. I do too. Anybody who was talking shit
about him, oh, well, everybody who loses calls
a robbery or whatever they were saying online.
I'm just like, man, give the man his hour to
get his shit together for the post -fight interview.
And he was so gracious in his little defeat interview.
Yeah. He was super gracious, very... uh congratulatory
to zapata like like okay if the judges gave it
to you the judges gave it to you congratulations
you're like hell of a fighter fucking trademark
tip my hat off to him that type of stuff but
and and then he went off on boxing as an institution
and that that's the type of shit like That's
the stuff that a lot of people don't, like, I
don't know. Do they not want to hear it? Are
they not ready to hear it? What do you think?
It's just politics, isn't it? Right. Yeah, you're
right. It's politics. And anybody who agrees
with him is going to agree with him. And anybody
who doesn't agree with him is just going to be,
oh, he's just a sore loser. Honestly, this fight,
I don't think Farmer deserved a win. Yeah, yeah.
The first fight, I scored for him. But this fight,
he got hurt. or whatever, and he just had to
take some rounds off in the beginning slash middle.
And him being hurt and plus taking the rounds
off in the immediate aftermath, that was the
deciding factor the same way the knockdown was
in the first one, right? Yeah, well, and I do
think he got another knockdown that they call
the slam. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see why
he's... I can see why he's really upset. Yeah.
Well, and... Farmer really has not gotten any
of his just dues for these two Zepeda fights.
Everybody's like, man, Zepeda fucking sucks.
Like, he's been exposed. He's terrible because
Farmer dropped him. And I'm like, Farmer's good,
guys. Right! I don't understand the farmer hate.
Do you not fucking remember how many years ago
was it now that people were talking about Tevin
Farmer is the one to beat Tank? That's what people
were talking about. Honestly, I think he could
still hurt Tank. Farmer's chin is not going to
hold up. He will lose, but he could make Tank
look bad. If Roach can do what he did. Farmer's
more guts. Yeah. Farmer could have similar levels
of success. I don't think he beats him the same
way that Roach did, which Roach did beat Gervonta
Davis. Make no mistake about that. If Roach can
do that, win a close decision, I don't see, I
think Tank or Farmer could have Tank. giving
him a lot of fits, giving him a lot of trouble.
I think Farmer would lay hands on Tank. We would
see if Tank actually has a chin. Not that Farmer
hits that hard. That's one thing he is lacking.
He is not a power puncher, but we would see if
Tank can take a punch or if he's just going to
take another knee that somehow doesn't get fucking
counted. He's not a knockdown. It's not a knockdown.
It's not a submission. I don't even know what
you call them. It's just the fight continues
as is. Fucking bullshit. For anybody who might
be thinking, because Farmer, his last three decisions
have been on the... He's gotten the short end
of the stick. The last three times. Moritaya,
super close. Arguable that he won. I don't think
he did. Zepeda won. He won. Super close. Arguable
that he won. I think he won. And then Zepeda
2, super close. I think Zepeda won. In my first
watch, I thought Farmer did enough, but... Looking
back on it, like, eh, maybe not. Still. Yeah,
I have no problem with Cepeda winning that second
fight. Right. Still super close. This was the
guy when Matchroom USA first started, which it
doesn't exist anymore. But Matchroom USA, Tevin
Farmer was the guy that they were talking about.
This is the antidote to Tank. Yeah. And I don't
think they're wrong. So don't, if you're thinking
like, ah, Tevin Farmer's garbage, whatever, he's
washed, whatever the fuck. I don't think so.
Yeah, I don't think he's done. Not at all. Not
at all. And his, whatever neurological issues
that we were worried he might have had, not that
big of a deal. Apparently. Yeah. It's not the
worst. There are, like, Luis Lopez Venado recently
had a fight, and that was... Yeah, I couldn't
even find that to watch. It was on YouTube Live,
but it finished super quick. It's like the guy
didn't even give any opposition. He was there
to get paid, and that was about it. Right. But
that guy, Luis Lopez, that would be someone I'm
like, ugh. Let's maybe rethink our career choices
here. That's a good segue to if we skip one.
All right. So I was watching interviews for Hergovich
and Joyce. And Hergovich had the funniest line.
Maybe it's his accent. Maybe it's the delivery.
But they're like, what? do you have for Joe Joyce?
And he's like, punches are not vitamins. Do not
stay in boxing too long. And I was like, yes.
This is my new catchphrase. Punches are not vitamins.
It's a good one. Joe Joyce has, like, the juggernaut
moniker comes from his just taking punches that's
yeah and he walks through him his non -defense
like joy joyce is there to be hit he gets hit
a lot right and i i really like joe joyce i really
hope he does something here but then i don't
know what that leads to either so hope uh yeah
this is their both of their their bids to stay
at the world level. Um, yeah, I don't know. I
feel like Herkovich would do well at the Europe,
like the European, the continental kind of level.
And Joe Joyce, probably the same. Like I, it's
like they're fighting for a position that neither
of them really deserve, or I don't know about
maybe deserves not the right word, but that neither
of them really rate. They don't, they don't have.
the appropriate merit if that's the better way
to put it but I mean like if fucking Derek Chisora
is getting another belt getting another chance
at a belt maybe Joe Joyce can too it's one of
the with the current crop like the age of the
current crop Derek Chisora is one of the few
that I could call unk yeah Like, dude, it's about
time. Like, what the fuck are you thinking about?
I know you think you can with this next one.
Does he, though? I don't think he does. I think
Derek Chisora is cashing out. He had his fucking
retirement speech all written out and planned.
He did it with Otto Wally? Yeah, and then he
won the fight. Yeah. I think it was expecting
to win, to be honest with you. But not get a
fucking mandatory shot at the IBF world title.
Well, UK is one of the ones that, like, they
play heavily into the IBF because rankings matter
over there. And as long as you're not one or
two, you can grease your way into any slot that
you want, really. And I think that's what's happening
with Joe Joyce. Or not Joe Joyce, with Derek
Chisora and Daniel Dubois. Is Chisora not ranked
number one? I think he's ranked number one by
the IBF. If he is, I'm going to have to retract
everything that I just said. Let me... What do
we got here? IBF. rankings i guess is what i
need to type in i am so tired hold on i am i'm
a little bit um i have them saved just because
it's a good idea but okay so number one is not
rated but derek chizora is the top rated heavyweight
by the idf he is number one or number two these
are the ones that get enforced Why are they listing
him as Zimbabwe? Must be where his heritage?
I thought Chisora was born in the UK. I thought
he was British, but Dillian White is Jamaican.
That's how they label him, is Jamaican. Oh, no,
Chizora was born in Zimbabwe, according to BoxRec.
Sounds British enough for me. Like, anytime I
hear him speak, he sounds British as shit. Yeah,
I just didn't realize. I don't either. I guess
that's... I guess we gotta cheer for Chizora
now. Man, I can't even... I could barely tell
the difference... I always cheer for Chizora.
I could barely tell the difference between, like,
a fucking Manchester or Liverpool... or blackpool
or whatever different parts of the uk i can barely
tell the difference between them so if there's
a zimbabwe born british person i'm not sorry
that i didn't recognize if he had a different
accent because he sounds british to me apparently
he was in zimbabwe all through school well Chisora
and his family moved to the UK in 1999 when he
was 16. 16? Yeah. Well, you all sound the same
to me, British people. His family must have had
relative money. They sent him to an all -boys
boarding school. Yeah, that sounds like they
would have money. I'm going to chalk that up
to... To save face for myself, I'm going to chalk
that up to I don't hear differences in accents.
I just hear British United Kingdom citizens speaking.
Yeah, he's not American. That's all I can know.
Yeah, well, I'm learning the different accents
of like the Canadian accents. I'm getting better.
Yeah. I can pick out parts of Canada pretty good.
Of course. I can pick out parts of the U .S.
easily, but it's... I'm going to just bolster
myself, gas myself up a little bit. I don't look
at you guys. I don't hear your accents and think,
that's this person or that region or that region.
I just hear my British friends, my United Kingdom
friends. speaking. That's all I hear. I still
have trouble with the difference between England
and Britain. Still haven't quite nailed that
down. I'm never sure which one to use. I think
those are the same. They're not. There is a difference,
but I can't remember what it is. Britain includes
Wales or something? It's the British Isles. So,
like, yeah. Britain includes Wales because it's
on the same island. I think. Okay, but England
does not. England is a part of it. England is
the smallest. It's a part of the isle. But not
the full island. And then the UK includes Scotland?
Yes, and Northern Ireland. Yeah. I just remember
this because I saw a video recently. It's this
guy who does like flag and nation trivia. And
it's like, oh, what are the four nations of the
United Kingdom? It is. I just in my mind, I said
Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. And then
the response. His response was wrong. It's Northern
Ireland. I mean, it is. It is, yes. But also,
suck my balls. Like, are you... My favorite history
flag trivia. Do you know why Northern Ireland
has the red hand on their flag? No. Okay, so
I can't remember his name. But there were two
kings. or noblemen of some sort that were racing
and the first person to touch the land got to
claim it and he cut off his fucking hand and
threw it so he touched it first so it's the red
hand of ulster because he cut off his hand and
just hopped it and he's like fucking touched
it it's mine bitches hilarious And we had the
troubles because of that. Yeah. But yeah, that's
why it's got a red band. Jesus. The only flag
trivia I really know. I don't know any flag trivia.
I just recognize what they're attached to. But
let's just fucking carry on. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.
No, no, no worries. Wilder versus Ngannou. Yeah.
It's in the works. Is it really? Yeah. If Wilder
gets past his next fight, which, given who it
is, chances are likely that he will. And then
Wilder versus Ngannou. Huh. I don't know, man.
Wilder looks... so shit last time out. Ngannou
might tag him. It's worrisome. I don't feel as
confident as I normally would about Wilder's
chances as I usually would. Ngannou made Fury
look hittable, and Wilder has way less defense.
And he doesn't have the killer instinct anymore,
apparently. opened his third eye and connected
with the gods or whatever so he i don't know
man the bronze bomber is gone now we got the
we have deontay wilder that's what we have now
it it's just that's what we have left is some
guy from mobile alabama the the professional
fighter not The bronze bomber who was like the
professional fucking in -ring killer. Yeah. No.
That's what we have left. You can't yell bomb
squad anymore. It's just, it's done. I don't
think so. As much as I want to. Because. That's
funny shit. He was our, our heavyweight hope
here over in the U .S. That, man, I. Oh, God.
The great American hope. He was the great American
hope. I cannot express in words how much I believed
in him and how he was going to be the one. He
is the one. He is the one. He is going to take
American heavyweight boxing back into its glory
days. I believed it. I cannot. And for a while,
he did. To be honest, he did. And he did, but
it's like, man. I talked my boyfriend at the
time into going out to a bar with me to watch
Wilder Fury 2. And I was like, there's no fucking
way Wilder wins this one. I was like, Fury's
going to win, whatever. But we got to the bar
and it was so quiet in there. There was like
no atmosphere at all. People were there to watch.
Like you paid a cover to come in and watch the
pay -per -view. It's the only reason anyone was
there, and it was fucking dead silent before
the fight started. And me and my ex, we fed off
each other really in sometimes a fun way, sometimes
not so fun. And I walked in, and I was like,
no, we just got to yell bomb squad, and everybody
is going to, like, hate us. He's like, but you
said he's going to lose. I'm like, fuck it. And
we walked in. And so you paid your cover, you
walked down a small hallway, and you went in
to where they had the fight playing. And there
was just like regular bar bullshit on the other
side. And as we walked through that second door,
we both just yelled bomb squad. And people turned
and started yelling at us, telling us why we
were wrong. And I was like, yes. Oh, man. I knew
we were wrong, but you just got to stir the pot
sometimes. I took it so far that I placed like
$40 worth of bets with people and lost all my
money. But fuck it. Strictly for vibes. As long
as I throw a smoke bomb into the hornet's nest,
it'll be fun. Worth it. It's $40. I got guys
yelling at us enough that they just bought us
pitchers of beer. I'm pretty sure beer to...
That's lost ratio. I came out even. Yeah, if
people are buying you drinks for the sake of
you, just because you are wrong, right? Very
Canadian thing to do. I would take it. I would
take the same thing. If I'm walking into a bar
and I'm yelling bomb squad and everybody's looking
at me like, you're a moron. Like, okay, well,
let's just see who's favorable or friendly anyway.
And we'll just be chatting and buying drinks
for each other. Yeah, I was betting five bucks
against people, however many times that is, like
eight times. And they all just bought drinks.
Yeah, of course. Fuck yeah. Of course. I would
be. antagonizing people into buying me drinks
all the time as well. What's that? Bomb squad.
Oh, what's that? Your mother bomb squad is what
I mean. I don't know how much that's going to
antagonize anybody, but that's what we're doing.
Cause I think it only works if you, if it might
be because I'm a girl, I hate to play that card,
but it might be because I'm a girl. It might.
Like, oh, isn't she cute? She watches boxing.
Oh, she thinks she knows boxing. She thinks she
knows boxing. Oh, you know him because he's a
knockout guy. That's the only reason that you
care about him. 100%. And they're like, oh, well,
who are your five favorite boxers? And you know
me. They were all fucking tiny little men. And
the guys are sitting there on their phones like.
Oh, yeah, this guy, he fights at 120. Who the
fuck has heard of this man? Fenito Lopez, Salvador
Sanchez. Do you know who Roman Gonzalez is? Have
you heard of that name? Like, it's that type
of, like... Yeah, yeah. Well, it was... When
was that? That would have been 2019, I think.
2020 before COVID hit, maybe. Anyways, I listed,
in a way, as one of my favorites. And somebody
legit said, nobody watches the fucking victim
weights. What are you doing? Oh, man. So then
I listed all my favorite fighters under 127 pounds.
All the victim weights. Yeah. Which, for the
person listening, victim weights came up. When
was that? Was that on the previous B -Sides?
That might have been B -Sides. I think it was
B -Sides. That was the previous time that came
up. Nobody watches the victim weights. Like,
I'm going to make you a victim weight. Yeah.
I don't know if you realize how, like, big I
actually am. Anyways. I love shutting up dickheads
in bars. It's great. I kind of miss yelling at
people living in Japan. I miss yelling at strangers.
I bet you can only do that in the expat bars.
Nah, you can't even do it there. Really? Well,
the bartenders don't really understand the difference
between friendly arguments and arguments. Oh,
I see. At least in Chiba City. Maybe in Tokyo
I could get away with it. But where I live, it's
a little smaller. And if you speak English loud
and it's not like really friendly, obviously
really friendly, you get told to leave. Oh, that's
lame. Yeah. I get told to leave sometimes just
because I speak English. Japan still does that
if you're outside the areas. Yeah, yeah. I don't
know. Speaking of Japan, we skipped the announcement.
We did. Inoue versus Nakatani in 2026. Yeah,
they said it at the Boxing Awards night here
in Japan. This is making my balls tickle. Tokyo
Dome. I might legitimately extend my contract
just so I'm still in the country. I need it to
be first half of 2026. I am very much interested
in traveling for this. It would be worth it,
I think. Yes. Just this headline is enough. But
it's going to be a stacked card. Of course. Of
course. They will stack the fuck out of that
card. Because fuck you. Come to Japan for it.
You want to watch it? Come to Japan. We got all
types of shit that's going to entice you. Yeah,
of course. Of course they're going to stack it.
Like, oh, God. I really hope it's in the first
half. The only thing I'm a little worried about
is they're going to put it in cherry blossom
season. And I don't know why that bothers me,
but I do not want to have to deal with allergies.
Well, and just Tokyo trains in cherry blossom
season. Right, a lot of travelers. And not just
foreigners. Like, Japanese people legit travel
to Tokyo to see the cherry blossoms. Yeah, I
mean exactly that. It's just people straight
up traveling. To go to the Cherry Blossoms. Yeah.
Yeah. Anyways, I am so stoked. That's really,
that's, even, I have so many questions. Like,
how are we guaranteeing that? What? Yeah, like,
it's boxing. It might fall apart. Exactly. But
I do, I do feel like the Japanese guys don't
really make these announcements until it's relatively
solid. Right. Right. They're not just yelling
and calling people out. Like, Inoue and Nakatani
have never even hinted that they were actually
going to fight soon. Right. So there's no hints.
There would be guarantees. Like, you have to
win your fights up to this point. I don't think
either of them said anything like that. I legitimately
think they both were just like, yeah, we're going
to fight next year. We both have fights lined
up, but we're fighting next year. That's the
part that I was worried about. Like, what happens
if one of them loses? I'm not saying that they
would. Would it matter, though? Would it matter
to anyone if either of them had a loss? No. I
wouldn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit.
As long as it's these two guys. I don't give
a shit. I don't give a shit. Nakatani could get
stopped. Inoue could get stopped. I don't care.
I don't care. I want to see Inoue and Nakatani
fight. What's the wait? Did they tell what the
weight is? Nakatani would come up, is my understanding.
Of course. What you'd expect. I actually found
an English article. I don't have to translate
here. Okay, so the JBC annual awards gala where
all of my boys were there looking super fucking
dapper. punch burgers pictures are amazing everything
about it i just love but uh and they they actually
um had the the lady with the pink hair her real
name is not mimi but that's what she calls herself
mizuki mizuki yeah yeah that i i have never not
that i've watched it that many times but i've
never seen any women at the the japanese boxing
commission and they they gave her an award good
she she rates yeah she does 100 okay so during
his acceptance speech inoue challenged nakatani
to fight him in 2026 let's explode japanese boxing
at the tokyo dome next year inua said Through
an interpreter, or according to an interpreter,
Nakatani rose from where he was sitting, went
over, and shook his hand and said, let's do it.
So, no details, but I really don't think they
would do this on such a public stage. Even if
it's just that handshake, they're not going to
back out of it. I don't think so. No way. But,
yeah, there's absolutely no dates or fucking
anything. Yeah, well. But I assume Nakatani's
going to come up. I think Inoue's going to hang
around at whatever that is, 122? Yeah, 22. And
wait for Nakatani to come up. That's a good fucking
fight that everybody wants to see. Absolutely.
Oh, I'm... For the audio audience, my boxing
boner is just fucking ripping apart right now.
That is exactly the kind of fight that I want
to see. Fucking crazy. And they both fight soon.
Right. So first half of 2026 lines up. I might
still be in Tokyo. Well, in Tokyo. I might still
be here. I might get to watch it live. Oh my
God. I don't, I might have to. How are you going
to secure tickets for the other people? Like
there's going to be a lot of us that want to,
that are going to want to come to that. I mean,
I, they're going to put caps on how many you
can buy. I assume, but I also have all the old
businessmen that will buy tickets for me if I
transfer the money. Yeah. I can get us tickets.
I am confident about that. But Tokyo Dome is
going to sell out. Oh, fuck. Of course it fucking
is. Are you fucking kidding me? I would pay for
a seat at the boxing bar. I would be willing
to go to that level just to be in the city or
in the prefecture when that goes down. Happens.
Yeah. I just want to be there, dude. Speaking
of the boxing bar, I have already had to reserve
my seat for the next in a way fight when he fights
in Vegas. It's not even that big of a fight.
It's not. It isn't. But the the owner texted
everyone in the group chat and he's like, reserve
your seat now because it's first come first serve.
He's like, it's OK if you guys cancel. he's like
i'll fill it don't worry don't worry about that
if you think you might want to come just tell
me now and i'll save you a spot so i have a seat
in tokyo but man that's gonna be at a shitty
fucking time i think i'm gonna have to do the
overnight thing i'm gonna have to catch the last
train to tokyo and drink from midnight to probably
10 a .m ish Oh, no. So terrible. Well, the fucking
Saudi cards, I always fall asleep. They have
to wake me up. Ah, well. Better you fall asleep
there than... I don't know. I can't speak to
how the... I've heard the anime bars are pretty
safe if you have a room. Oh, yeah. No, the rooms
are at least... You can pay to have a locking
door. That's all fine. Okay, cool. Yeah. But
no, this is just me, like, at the bar with a
bunch of old men and being like, oh, shit. I
just put my head down on the bar and sleeping
like a student in class. But at the same time,
like, you're, like, part of the circle, right?
Yeah, yeah. No, nobody's going to fuck with me.
Of course, no one's going to. Not in that bar.
I wouldn't do it in other bars. Yeah, that's
the thing that I'm thinking about. It's like,
man... People get roofied here. People are always
like, Japan is so safe. People get roofied here.
That's a thing you have to worry about anyways.
That's exactly what I was thinking about. People
aren't going to steal your shit while you're
roofied. What else is going to happen to you?
That's the type of shit. Don't make me fly out
to Japan to beat somebody up. You know, like
touching you or something like that. I mean,
the Japanese guys aren't that big. I could probably
handle it myself. I'm sure you could. But a big
old brown dude pounding your fucking face in
has a little bit of a different delivery. It
does. It does. I also think those 60 -year -old
men that used to balk would also have something
to say. I'm sure. But we don't have to get into
the dick measuring. Yeah, I imagine a bunch of
this is getting cut. Jesus, I have killed this
bottle of soju. Oh, well, I was waiting. We're
not even to review. We're not. I got this much
left. Well, all right. I got one of my little
buzz balls. Oh, I also have a beer, I think.
I got a tall boy of Asahi. But I do have to go
to work. Oh. Well, you probably should not have
had that whole bottle of soju. Nah, it's fine.
I just gotta count cultures on a plate for the
Chinese girl. If I can still count to 100, I
am good. Well, who can count to 100 anyway? I
get one of the little clickers. All right. So
we were at the Inouye Nakatani 2026. So I wanted
to bring up Bevo Better BF2 sells 134K on pay
-per -view. And I brought up other pay -per -view
numbers for comparison. Sorry, how much? Because
you said a different number than you have written
down. $340 ,000. Right, you said $134 ,000. Did
I? Wow, I'm not very good at this. $340 ,000.
That is more than I thought. That is the Bevo
Better Be Of Rematch pay -per -view number. So,
for reference... Dinero Alvarez versus Berlanga
sold $650 ,000. Gervonta Davis versus Lamont
Roach was $260 ,000. David Benavidez versus David
Murrell was $160 ,000. Now, the thing is that
people are calling Dimitri Bivol versus Artur
Beterbiev at $340 ,000. They're calling that
a pay -per -view flop. Which is ridiculous. Well,
the thing is that we have to consider how much
they were paid for the event. Do we know? Like,
Saudi's throwing money away. Everybody knows
Saudi's throwing money away. True, true. So if
you're going entirely on pay -per -view buys...
It did better. Yeah, that is a really good number.
In the post -Mayweather Pacquiao era, that 340
is a solid number. It really is. So, well, and
I don't think, how do I put this? They put too
many big names on the same pay -per -view. But
also, none of those were pay -per -view stars.
There wasn't one pay -per -view star on that
card. Not one. Not one. That was a degenerate
card. In all honesty, that was a card that boxing
fans knew a ton of names. But if you went on
the street to casuals that actually do kind of
watch boxing, they'll know Bivol and Beterbiev.
Or Beterbiev. Yeah. I mean, nobody that isn't
a hardcore fan knows who Joseph Parker is. That
was something that people were pointing out with
Benavidez vs. Morel. Was that Morel, of course,
nobody knows who the fuck this guy is. Hardcore
fans know who he is. Well, and I have a hard
time judging because we're in our little echo
chamber. Of course. What is what? But I... Like,
Benavides. Janabek was the one. I was like, people
know who Janabek is. Like, he's not popular,
but people know who he is. And they're like,
somebody was like, why? It's like, he's had multiple
belts and defended them. And I'm like, yeah,
but people don't know who the fuck he is. Yeah.
I mean, morale. Morale. I think would fall into
the same category as Johnny Beck. Morel had a
fringe -ish title, but nonetheless, he has highlight
reel performances. Yeah, but people know Shakur
Stevenson's name, but nobody is excited to watch
a Shakur fight. Nobody gives a fuck about Joseph
Parker. I think... Zhang is a name if you watch
boxing, but not really. Like, if you walked out
to a crowd that says they casually watch boxing,
who else was on this? Virgil Ortiz and Madrimov?
Oh, don't make Alex upset. I'm just saying, like...
These are not people that the average person
knows. More people probably know who Callum Smith
is than know who... Virgil Ortiz? No, I was going
to say Carlos Adamas, but maybe not. I have no
fucking scale of this. That's accurate. More
people knowing who Callum Smith over Carlos Adamas?
100 % accurate. Absolutely. So they're all names
to you and me and all of our friends. We know
who they are. Yeah, the Sickos, we know who they
are. But none of these people are pay -per -view
stars. No. The biggest name is Shakir Stevenson,
and no one pays for a pay -per -view with him
because he's boring as fuck. Man. So for that
event to do 340K... I was thinking of this in
the context of just wasted money, period. But
in the context of the Saudis wasting money, that
makes me happy. Whatever means the Saudi Arabians
are losing, that makes me happy. Are you listening,
Turkey? Are you going to get your fucking goons
to come to my house? Go ahead. Go ahead. that's
also news rumors whatever that turkey had an
egyptian guy arrested arrested disappeared i
have he had him he had him disappeared you want
to come to my house buddy like that's that's
up to you but uh i'm just gonna say 340k that's
a solid like pay -per -view performance it's
a solid buy it is that's a good number in the
post may pack era that's a good number it is
and if you decide to over stack a card that's
your problem right you could you top three fights
you could stack it and you probably would have
done the same number you could have moved like
um carlos adamas fucking Virgil Ortiz and we'll
say Callum Smith, move them to a separate pay
-per -view, would have done the same number.
Yep. And then you'd have had the separate pay
-per -view numbers for the super degenerates
like me who will pay to watch Callum Smith. You
would have had it with like, you could have divided
this into two events instead of calling it a
failure. But what really is a failure, turkey
a little shake. What's really a failure is you.
My hands are up because fuck you. His fucking
emotional tantrums about boxing lately have also
been... He's a little fucking child. He's a little
baby boy that expects his toys to play the way
that he wants them to. He gets so mad when the
fights don't end the way he thinks they should.
Man, little pissy boy. It's all good, dog. It's
all good. One day you're going to grow up. It's
all good. No, he's not. He's a rich, spoiled
brat that just pays people to do what he wants.
Well, speaking of rich, spoiled brats, Ryan Garcia
moves off to Derek. He moves back to Derek James.
I actually hadn't heard about this. Ryan Garcia
is such a piece of shit. Yes, he is. Yes, he
is. But here's one thing that I think is that
by moving back to Derek James, Derek James gets
to say, no more bullshit. If you want to come
back to my camp, I'm in charge. Do you think
that's going to stick though? I can only hope
because I would like for Ryan Garcia to be better
than he is. I would like to see him fucking crash
and burn and everyone forget he exists. Alright.
I'm a fucking elite level hater of Ryan Garcia.
I like For him, the worst thing in the world
is for people to forget about him. That would
be what upsets him the most. I don't want him
to die. I don't want anything overtly bad to
happen to him. No serious harm. Nothing like
that. Of course. I just want him to not be famous.
Fade out of the zeitgeist. Entirely. Yeah. Like,
I want him to get Lubegan. Lubegan. I don't know
why I picked him, but nobody remembers who he
is. I remember Lubega just because of the Lord
of the Rings one that I shared with you, like
the Lubega. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One for the
Monica in our lives, two for the Erica by our
sides. But there was one dance that Lou Bega
saved. Yeah. The Dark Lord Bega. Anyways. Anyway.
Yeah, I guess if Derek James can get Ryan Garcia's
shit together. But I personally don't want him
to. I personally want Ryan Garcia to fail. Yeah,
well. My opinion does not matter. I will be adding
Ryan Garcia's success with Derek James into my
Tenshin Asakawa category. Ah, fuck off. Fuck
off. Well, here's what we're not fucking off
with. Oi, Yokoyama. Gets the win. I only got
to watch part of this fight. He looked good.
He was super fucking impressive. No notes. Very
impressive. This is a young man that you want
to keep your eyes on. So, in case you forgot,
I picked AOA as my prospect of the year last
year. You did. I did. He just won the Oriental
Pacific... OPBF. Yes, thank you. In his third
professional fight, which, if I am understanding
translations properly, he is the fastest person
to ever do it. Number of fights -wise. Not the
youngest, but the fastest. It's fucking crazy.
They threw my boy to the wolves and he came home
with a new coat. Like, he looked fucking impressive.
It's the beginning of 300. Yeah. Which is exactly
what you just described. That's what it is. I
am so high on this kid. And he is also the kid
I always talk about that volunteers at the retirement
home. And he seems like such a good person. I
want him to do so well. and i looked up what
his name actually means so not the characters
because i don't know how to read that but aoi
means blue and he has the character for ocean
in his first name but his last name is yogoyama
which is the next mountain so he's blue from
the next mountain over there i don't know why
that makes me happy but it does no it's pretty
cool to learn more about who the guys like who
the people are that are coming up like um so
he's signed with the comedas which is the only
thing i'm a little wary about that concerns me
too like they have a connection i don't remember
which major promoter but they do have a connection
to one of them They do, but they are also a family
that the Japanese Boxing Commission hates. Oh,
shit. Because of their behavior when they were
boxing. The Kamedas are very controversial. We'll
just leave it at that. Because they what? Because
they lived and trained in Mexico? And they had
a personality. So they learned to be Mexican.
And then they came back to Japan. Like, we are
Mexican, like, in culture, shitting in Japanese
language. Yeah, like, I have no problem with
anything the Kamedas ever did. Shrugging my shoulders
for the audio. Yeah, but, like, Japan has a problem
with the Kamedas. Of course they do. They don't
fucking like Ioka for no apparent reason, as
far as I can tell. Because he's from Osaka. So
are the Kamedas. Oh, well, surprise, surprise.
Of course they hate them. He's from Kansai, so
he's not even from the city. He's from some small
town. But this event was fucking hilarious, by
the way. I don't know where you were watching
it, but I watched it live. But it was concerts
and boxing. Like, that was what it was billed
as. It was a weekend of music and combat sports.
But it was actually only boxing. Two -day event
just outside of Nagoya. I always get them confused.
I'm pretty sure it's Nagoya. And they had fucking
idol -colored lights and dancing and DJ. battles
and shit between the fights it's what Saudi wants
it to be but with an actual atmosphere and uh
I actually I had priced out tickets but I couldn't
not a price thing I just couldn't take the time
off work but anyways that's where AOA is from
so of course he signed with the promoters that
are near him and speak the same dialect as him
and are super famous. Like, I'm not shitting
on him for it, but the Japanese Boxing Commission
is going to shit on him for it. And I kind of
hope he moves to someone else whenever his contract
is up. Because this event was not popular. It
was not one of the ones that's very well advertised
or anything else. And there were title fights.
There were... This is the same as that weekend
event where Tsutsumi won his title from Little
Inoue. But it wasn't fucking advertised because
it's in the middle of nowhere. Nagoya is a small
city in Japan. And it's a Kameda production,
so... All the ingredients are wrong, right? But
this is just me as a foreigner, maybe misinterpreting
things, but I don't think so. So Aoi Yokoyama
is going to be fucking great. He is definitely
winning at least one world title. And he needs
a promoter that the Japanese government's going
to like and let him get out of Japan. Does he
need the Japanese government to get outside of
Japan? Because if he has the Kameda family promoting
him, he could leave and go up the Mexican chain
of boxing. Has that ever happened, though? Question
mark. Because that's what the Kameda family did,
was they left Japan for exactly these reasons.
Is Mexico going to let them promote a Japanese
fighter in Mexico? Yes. I just haven't heard
of it. I haven't either. I haven't either. Maybe
they've never had anybody that good. I don't
know. But if that's a fucking option, why didn't
Nyoka do that? I would like for Nyoka to do that.
I think it's way too late now. For him, yeah.
But, like, if that's an option, why has no one
ever done it? If anyone is going to do it, it's
going to be the Kamedas. They have the connections.
I mean, Junto's the closest thing. Right. He's
not with the Kamedas, though, right? No, no,
but he trains not in Mexico, I guess, but with
a Mexican. Southern California in a Mexican camp.
Yeah. But, like, the Japanese Boxing Commission
likes Nakatani. Right. Man. And there's no reason
they shouldn't like Aoi either. Like, he has
no tattoos. He has no controversies. He has nothing
bad yet. But if he hangs out with the Kameidas,
he's going to get scandals. Whether they're warranted
or not, he will get scandals. That would be like
signing with people known to deal with the Kinahans
or whatever their name is. MTK or Probellum.
I think those were the Kinahan groups. Yeah,
like even if you as a person are spotless, just
dealing with those people kind of tarnishes you.
Jamel Herring was like that. Spotless, but he...
Signed with Kinahan. Yeah. I'm just saying. I
get you. I get you. I want this kid to be smart.
But he is fucking adorable and they always give
him the little tear videos. Love it. Oh, shit.
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Cool. Cool. Are we... My day is off the rails.
Are we drinking or not drinking? I'm drinking
right now. Okay. I have a tall boy. Welcome to
the fucking show! Alright, just a quick blurb,
just so you can get back to what you were doing.
Why would a boxing fan, let's assume they're
like a purist or some shit, why would they want
to watch MMA, why would they want to listen to
an MMA show? I'm gonna come at this from sort
of like a primal level. So, I will admit there
are like some very, like... unique and like stark
differences between MMA and boxing and it seems
like one of the main things that keeps boxing
fans away from MMA is the grappling aspect and
yet sometimes it can be you know a lay and pray
type of fight and it can get old but man like
it's just instinctual man some of these people
the way they fight in MMA Is just brutal. And
I feel like that's what it comes down to. When
it comes to being a combat fan. A combat sports
fan. I mean. We saw just recently. Mauricio Rufi.
Versus Bobby Green. Spinning back. Or spinning
a wheel kick. Man. I mean they went viral. And
it's something that everyone can appreciate.
Even boxing fans. I know a few. I have a few
friends that are boxing fans. who I sent him
that clip. I mean, and they were amazed. One
even told me that they wish they would have seen
it live because seeing that type of stuff live
just elicits a euphoric feeling that you can't
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too, whenever
you see an amazing fight. But I just got to say,
in MMA, you get those type of fights as well,
just in a different type. It's different, but
sort of the same. It's sort of weird how I describe
it, but it's different, but the same. It comes
down to that same like carnal or primal instinct
of just like fights. Yeah, I always think like
the biggest, the easiest transition that I always
recommend, I say this all the time on Ultimate
Fucking Casuals, is if you're not too keen on
the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing. are
exactly where you want to start. Like, you start
working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah. Yeah,
no, yeah, you're true. I mean, you're right.
But, man, some of these grapplers, man, these
scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty crazy
just to see it. Like, you know, rolling around
the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff that
they're doing in between the scrambles. I mean,
it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone over, the
trips. I mean, it can be fun. But, yeah, you're
right. The easiest transition is definitely start
out with Muay Thai, kickboxing, and, you know,
slowly work your way into MMA. And, you know,
this is the thing about the ultimate fucking
casuals. We will let you know which fights are
going to be good. Which ones, you know, if you're
not too in tune with the grappling, we can get
maybe a little tag or a little asterisk on certain
fights saying, like, this is a boxing purist
type of fight. Yeah. You can watch this and enjoy
this. Like, we'll let you know. Yeah, we always
try. Like, I came into this. The whole show was
started with me. I didn't know shit. about MMA.
I'd never really seen an MMA fight in its entirety
in my entire life. And I came into this with
nothing. And yeah, that's where we're at now
is like, we're talking to like, I make sure I
go out of my way to bring up Muay Thai and bring
up kickboxing so that people know like this for
boxing fans to know this is what, this is where
you can start. All right. Well, that was about
it. I really appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac,
for jumping on real quick. Thanks for having
me on. All right. Thank you. All right. Just
to get right into it, Nathan, you and I both
tried the Strikeman dry fire system. What did
you like about it? No, scratch that. What did
you dislike? about uh i tried i have the 380
acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what did you
test out and what did you dislike just to start
off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber uh system
um and really my only um complaints really just
came from the platform i was using so i my 556
is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic. Just in
that context, a little tough to use because it
requires the trigger to be reset before every...
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,
right? Right, you're not relying on the gunpowder
resetting your... recycling around, so you have
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.
But, that being said, there's plenty of other,
uh, you know, different types of systems that
use five, five, six. You don't have to use, uh,
AR style and the auto system. Yeah. We're in
that context when you, when you have a big old
bolt like that, um, worry. Sorry, I lost my train
of thought there. Let me chop that up. But in,
in that context, um, it was a little tough to
use. I think this is a system that's much more
oriented towards either bolt action or a pistol
style, where you could just rack the slide, reset
the trigger, and then you're ready to go. Yeah,
I had a similar experience on the 6 .5 Creedmoor.
I have a bolt action, so you don't have to go
through the full range of motion to get it reset,
but you do still have to pop. the bolt and then
put it back down to get, to get the trigger reset.
But as you were alluding to the pistol version,
I have my three 80 is a single action, double
action. So I don't have to rack the slide, but
I can't, I do still have to pull down the, uh,
the hammer a little bit to get it to fire off.
Gotcha. Uh, what about the, what did you think
about that? I thought the app was really cool.
The setup was very easy. It took less than five
minutes to get the whole stand and phone configured.
I do really like a lot of the gamified features
that are kind of put in there. So there's like
some different challenges and you can get on
kind of leaderboards and do matches with people.
And I think that's just really cool because,
you know, when it comes to getting better at
shooting. one of the best ways to do that is
learning how to shoot under pressure and so having
something that's very low stakes like this you
know that is a it's going to force you to be
accurate but um it's going to do so in a way
where it's making you you know you're not just
doing it repetitively to range you're trying
to almost beat yourself or beat a friend and
that competition you know that raising of the
stakes is going to help you become a calmer shot
over time i think I really enjoy that aspect
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting
is your max effective range, cut that in half,
and that's about what you're looking at shooting
under pressure. So if you're practicing with
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You
know, when you don't have walkers coming down
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just
play around with friends. And also, you're doing
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock
market these last few days, and ammo could become
significantly more expensive. But now with the
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.
You can take your time in the comfort of your
own home and practice all you want. Man, that
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a
lot more practice. but good to find out here
i think being on that timer too really shows
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill
that i i need to work on you know there might
be it's also different ranges this is similar
to like archery or long range shooting really
but like you could be really good at 100 yards
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right
so this this is you know being able to very quickly
just change the ranges that you're shooting at.
Again, just in your home, in your backyard, whatever.
Like, that's a really, really helpful skill you
can hone with this system. Oof, yeah. Well, overall,
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?
Like, it really depends on what it is that you're
trying to do or what you're trying to practice
with. I can't speak to any of the other calibers,
but if it's like a handgun caliber, I always
say if you can get a single double, get a single
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.
Nonetheless, it should still help to increase
your max effective range, like under pressure,
right? Like I said, cut your original in half.
Yeah, and I agree with that recommendation. I
think any kind of pistol caliber, I think, is
really well suited to this system. I think if
you're going to do rifle, I think bolt action
is probably going to be your best bet. But yeah,
I definitely concur with your assessment on its
usefulness as a pistol training tool, which I
think is, if you look at, I think it's what they're
aiming for when they're marketing this. They
did well there. I think they have shotgun gauges
as well. Like that's kind of wild. Not what I
would have expected for like a dry fire kind
of training thing. But hey. Oh, that sounds like
it would actually work because you'd just be
for a pump action. Yeah, you just pump it, right?
Yeah, that's right. All right. Well, Nate, thanks
for jumping on real quick. Just wanted to get
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