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you want? Seriously, what more do you want? Let

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me know. The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit.

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B -Side. B -Side. And the B -Side. You got a

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B -Side. The B -Side. B -Side. B -Side. B -Side.

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That B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing

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Podcast. Are we ready? Yeah. Well, well, well.

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Ultimate. fucking casuals what is wrong with

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me is another podcast by the lbx media thank

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you yes yes uh boxing b -sides we're back up

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in your fucking ears um this is not the ultimate

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effing casuals which you should listen to also

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but not right now because you're listening to

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this joined once again by shanada you're back

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i'm back back up on special guest appearance

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And the one and only. We're here, Alex. All right.

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Oh. I think you can do a longer intro for Shanada.

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I don't know if they're Canadian or not. I always

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get confused with music. Is Alexis on Fire a

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band that other people know? I know them. Oh,

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yeah. Yeah, okay, okay. Canada has the... I think

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it's... 40 % of our music has to be Canadian

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somehow. On the radio? Yeah. So there's a lot

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of bands that I think are very popular because

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I hear them all the time and no one's ever heard

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of them. Actually, Alexis on Fire is... Maybe

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you can disagree with me, but the Hispanic community,

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they're kind of big. Thanks. I just found out

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that Marianna's Trench is not very famous. That's

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actually... I like Marianas Trench. Or I used

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to. They're a little too... Oh, they're pop.

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Okay, yeah, I don't know who they are. Never

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mind. They're not really... They're pop, but,

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like, their big hit song was Slap You Like a

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Bitch and You Take It Like a Whore. So they're

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not, like, happy pop. They're kind of angry pop.

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Like, I don't get any pop. Yeah. Alexis on fire.

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Post -hardcore. It's... Yeah. i'm familiar with

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them i always thought it was because it's all

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one word i always thought it was alex is on fire

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well that's the debate right is it they did that

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on purpose yeah so nobody knows if their name

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is alex and they're on fire or if alexis is on

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fire yeah i hope i'm not on fire yeah well Boxing

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B -sides. Let's extend the olive branch since

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I mentioned the ultimate F in casuals. UFC 314

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is coming up. One fight actually at the top of

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the bill got taken off, but I'll just skip over

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it. Alexander Volkanovsky, the living legend

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versus Diego Lopez, the fucking uprising. I'm

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not going to say superstar or anything yet, but

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he's making his waves. That's for the featherweight

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title. Michael Chandler is fighting Patty Pimblitt.

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It's just the stupidest name I've ever heard.

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Patty Pimblitt. Johnny Pichik. I love Patty.

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Patty the Batty Pimblitt. His stupid fucking

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bowl haircut. Yep. It's the only reason I know

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him. That and the viral video where his dog had

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diarrhea on some lady's lawn. Uh -huh. You haven't

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seen that? I have not. Oh, how do you guys not

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know this? I'll have to go find it. He was walking

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his dog, and some lady's ring camera caught it.

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And he's walking his dog, and he goes and, like,

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rings her doorbell. And she's like, is that fucking

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Patty the Batty? And he's like, my dog just took

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a real sloppy shit on your lawn, and I tried

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to pick it up, but I can't. Like, do you have

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some water or something I could pour on it? He's

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like, I tried. And the lady's like, what the

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fuck is happening? Is that Patty the Batty? Yeah,

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my dog just took a real sloppy shit on your vlog.

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He actually said that word for word, bar for

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bar? Pretty close. Yeah. In their stupid accents

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because they live wherever they live. It's a

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hilarious video. You guys need to find it. Try

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to do the accent, Shanada. No. No. I'm not going

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to do that. That's a hate crime. That was funny.

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Another interesting character, Bryce Mitchell

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versus John Silva. John Silva is actually really

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entertaining to watch. He avoids grappling as

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much as he can. And so does Bryce Mitchell. So

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this should be moderately entertaining. And Yair

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Rodriguez versus Patricio Pitbull. Pitbull is

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making his... debut he's coming off of a just

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recently released by pfl slash bellator so here

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he is and uh that's it let's let's get into some

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fucking boxing here you know there's there's

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another pitbull in boxing oh yeah mma pants out

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there yeah they should check out isaac is he

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isaac or isaac he must be isaac isaac Probably.

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You suck. Here's just one to mention really quickly.

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Pat Brown, an Olympian from the UK, makes his

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debut at Cruiserweight, gets a stoppage in four

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over Federico Grandone from Argentina. He's a

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late replacement as well, like a week maybe.

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Take notes, George Cambosos, because this is

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how you're supposed to do it. We're just going

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to shit on Cambo for the rest of his life. Forever.

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Anytime. Until anytime there's a late replacement

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of like a week or less and they get stopped in

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like the first third of the fight, it'll be a

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Cambosos moment. Last one on this card I wanted

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to mention was Cameron Vuong. He stops Jordan

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Flynn in seven. I've been mentioning Cameron

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Vuong for I don't know how long now, but I'm

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going to keep doing it. I like Cameron Vuong.

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He's fun. Moving to the 29th. Top rank in Las

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Vegas at the Fontainebleau. I'm going to go from

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the bottom up. There's a whole bunch of other

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shit that happened on this card that I don't

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really care about. So from the bottom up, Emiliano

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Vargas, TKO2 over Giovanni Gonzalez. Party. Bruce,

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go ahead. I want to also say, as I said last

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week, I also think Emiliano is going to go very

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far in his career. And I'm calling it right now.

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I think he's going to be... A future title holder

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in the division. Wow. At 140? That's a bold statement.

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That is. I rank him very highly. I think he has

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the potential to become a potential great, potentially

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elite, in fact, in the coming division in the

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future. Well, you heard it here first. Yeah,

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you did. He shows a lot of promise. He shows

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a lot of promise. Of all his brothers, he does

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show the most. For sure. And he's the youngest.

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He's, I think, 20, right? Yeah, he's 20. Yeah,

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he's 20. He's going to do well. As long as Top

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Ring builds him up properly, he's going to do

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well. Seem to be doing a good job so far. Bruce

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Carrington, TKO3 over Enrique Vivas. Shit wasn't

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even close. Yeah, I mean, Shushu looked good

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this time. Yeah, he did. I don't really like

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him, but he did look good. Got it done quick,

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the way he's supposed to. He talked a whole lot

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of shit in the post -fight interview. Oh, that's

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right. He called out fucking everybody. Man.

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Well, seems like he can back it up so far. So

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far. So far. Yeah, I don't know if that's going

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to hold forever. Yeah. One of the things that

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always goes down is as you go up, the chin resistance

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goes up, defenses get better. You're not going

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to have fucking Vivas in front of you every time.

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Exactly. Hopefully Shushu doesn't get turned

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into Shushi. Excellent. Nice. You know what else

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was nice? Brian Norman Jr. TKO3 over Derek Cuevas.

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Brian Norman better than we expected? Should

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we not make too much out of this considering

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it was just a WBO mandatory? I didn't expect

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him to finish it that fast. Yeah. At all. He

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looked pretty good. He looked exceptionally good.

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He looked a lot better than... My previous estimations

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of him. I think that the conversation is turning

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from Boots is going to destroy him to can Boots

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knock him out? Which is, you know, it's kind

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of a step up, you know, from people saying, oh,

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he sucks too. Oh, well, you might be a formidable

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opponent. True. Which I believe I think on my

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first instance on this podcast, I did kind of,

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I did say that, huh? I did say that right, Leo,

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remember? What, about Norman? Yeah, about Norman.

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Yes. Yeah. I'm not high on Norman. I'm not too,

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too high, but I still think he's a dangerous

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fighter. You know? He's super fast. We'll see.

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He's got really fast hands. Yeah. I was impressed

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with him this fight. Yeah. Like, I don't know

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if this means he's going to be a world beater

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or anything, but he impressed me. How does he

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do against Barrios? Eat him. You think so? Yeah,

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Barrios is not that... I don't think Barrios

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is that good of a fighter. I don't think he's

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that good either. I think... I like Barrios.

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The guy that beat him last time was Ramos. Not

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Jesus Ramos, but it was... Abel Ramos. He was

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a pretty big underdog coming into the fight.

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I mean, what was the equalizer was the power.

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You know, his skill wasn't really there that

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much, but the power, that almost took out Barrios.

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Yeah. I'll tell you, Brian Norman Jr. has good

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power. So if he can fight Barrios like how he

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fought Quivas this fight, I think Barrios is

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going to be in some trouble. I'll tell you that

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for sure. Yeah, you guys can probably convince

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me. Like I said, he did better than I thought

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he would this fight. I wasn't expecting that

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sort of win. It took him, from my estimation

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of the welterweight champions, like Boots, then

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Stanionis, then Barrios, then Norman. That's

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where I had it. But now, Norman, after this,

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maybe swap Norman and Barrios a little bit. They

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should fight. They should. That's not going to

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happen, though. They won't fight. I'll guarantee

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you. PBC in the top rank? Definitely not. But

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they should. They should, yes, of course. Those

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two never really see eye to eye properly. I fucking

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hate the politics of boxing. It ruins everything.

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That could be a whole podcast in and of itself,

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just talking shit about the podcast of each promotional

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company. Yeah. And then how much we love Turkey

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so we could get that Saudi bonus, huh? Yeah.

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Not worth it. No, it's not worth it. I don't

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want to sell my soul to this motherfucker. Yeah,

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but I'm going to sell my soul. It's not going

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to be to the fucking Saudis. Yeah, I suppose

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that's a little more personal for you than us,

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probably. Yeah, you actually have a vendetta,

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huh? Well, it's a topic for another time. That's

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a different podcast right there. Yeah, that one

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is too. Mikayla Mayer and Sandy Bryan. Do it

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again. Michaela Mayer gets it done clean this

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time. I thought Sandy Ryan won the first time,

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but Sandy Ryan, let's say that the cards did

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go her way. Sandy Ryan's win would not have been

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as good as this one that Michaela Mayer has over

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Sandy Ryan. They were talking about doing it

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a third time? Like, what? Fucking what for? Who

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else are they going to fight, though? There's

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not that many good women in this weight class.

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Natasha Jonas is a good one. Michaela Mayer and

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Natasha Jonas already fought, but that was a

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questionable decision. That's putting it pretty

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nicely. Who's the one chick? She just came into

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the scene. Lauren Price just beat Natasha Jonas.

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I don't think I know who Lauren Price is. She's

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really fresh onto the scene. She's being built

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up right now. Beat Jessica McCaskill. She might

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be a future title holder. She's already got two.

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Yeah, I was going to say I think she already

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is. I thought they were interim titles. No. Really?

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She's got three. Three of the four, I believe.

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Oh, interim. No, she has IBF, WBC, and I think

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WBA. I'm going to check. IBO. What the hell?

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Oh, shoot. That's my bad, guys. If somebody has

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the IBO, especially on the women's side, chances

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are they have everything else, too. Yeah, Lauren

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Price is the WBA champion. So let me ask you

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guys this, okay? Do you guys often tune into

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female boxing? um if it's that's also a different

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weight class lauren price is one weight class

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low oh no she's not no they're both welchers

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sorry sorry um i watched them on the cards but

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i don't really look for it yeah it's definitely

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getting better but until pretty recently women's

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boxing was not as good it's pretty there's so

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many mishmet So many mismatches. Like, I'll never

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forget that poor Canadian barista that they put

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in with a world title holder. And she just got

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fucking demolished in like 12 seconds. That wasn't

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that long ago. That was like 2020. Someone that

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took a few boxer -sized classes. I would have

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done better. And I am not a boxer, but I would

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have done better than that. Like, the first punch

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might have missed if it was me because I'd be

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too far away for her to hit me. mayor definitely

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won this one yeah pretty clearly yeah very clearly

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i don't know if i need to see another one i think

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i'm with you leo but i just i also don't really

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know who else they fight that lauren price is

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a good one just lauren price uh yeah natasha

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jonas if you want to get revenge uh michaela

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if michaela mayor wants revenge for the crappy

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decision I guess. I don't know if I particularly

00:16:54.940 --> 00:16:57.940
want to see that either. Right. I don't really

00:16:57.940 --> 00:17:01.679
think I do either. It's just Lauren Price. Just

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start racking up those belts and start racking

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up those defenses. Mayer is more skilled than

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a lot of the women, I think. Like, her fundamentals

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are better. I think she maybe had better coaching.

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Yes. Really don't like how they make that whole

00:17:20.339 --> 00:17:23.160
fucking storyline of the fight. They make it

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all about that one coach that used to work with

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Michaela Mayer, then switched to working with

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Sandy Ryan. Yeah. I don't remember what it's

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called, but it's something about literature or

00:17:37.339 --> 00:17:42.299
just any sort of written art that if there's

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two women having... Do they have dialogue? And

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is it not about a man? The something test. Yeah.

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Berkmeyer test. Is that it? Starts with a B.

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I remember that much, but. I'm surprised they

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didn't mention it. Bechdel test. Yeah. I'm surprised

00:18:02.069 --> 00:18:04.450
they didn't mention the paint in any of the posts.

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They did. They did. Fucking everywhere. Mayer

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had that red handprint on her ass. I'm sure that

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was a nod to the paint thing. Absolutely. No,

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I was joking. Yeah, they plastered that shit

00:18:15.809 --> 00:18:19.460
everywhere. Yeah. I missed the sarcasm. Sorry.

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But this fight did not pass the Bechdel test.

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No. Do better, top rank. Although, I guess it

00:18:28.180 --> 00:18:35.059
is kind of a thing. Trainer switches? Yeah. I

00:18:35.059 --> 00:18:37.440
guess. It's like when they make a big deal about

00:18:37.440 --> 00:18:39.759
guys being sparring partners five years ago,

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and you're like, eh. You're like Rody and Ryan?

00:18:44.200 --> 00:18:47.529
Yeah. Or, like, they've really been trying to

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push the Joe Joyce and Herkovich amateur fight

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being important. That was fucking a million years

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ago, guys. No one cares. Well, you know, with

00:18:58.369 --> 00:19:01.009
Tank and Roach, Tank wanted the amateurs, but

00:19:01.009 --> 00:19:05.329
Roach really wanted the pro. That one I actually

00:19:05.329 --> 00:19:08.170
do think... I can get down with that one. Yeah,

00:19:08.210 --> 00:19:11.069
that one, Roach was not scared of the power.

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There's another... little one that doesn't get

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brought up a lot that's nico ali walsh is actually

00:19:17.690 --> 00:19:20.150
muhammad ali's grandson i don't know if you guys

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knew that but i tried try not to put it out there

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because it seems like top rank doesn't want to

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it's a bit of a secret it's a bit i've never

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heard of that it's boxing insider stuff i might

00:19:32.309 --> 00:19:36.089
be i don't know i wasn't there when uh when it

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happened when it was conceived go back to ultimate

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T -T -A -C -K dot L -V -X dot B -E. What wasn't

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casual bullshit? William Cepeda and Tevin Farmer.

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What a fight. Just some quick ones on the way

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up. Yocasta Valle, the jungle warrior goddess.

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split decision over Marlon Esparza. It was competitive,

00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.359
though, so my estimation when we talked about

00:22:16.359 --> 00:22:19.779
it on Boxing Before Dark, I was thinking that

00:22:19.779 --> 00:22:24.279
Marlon Esparza was washed, spent, fucking in

00:22:24.279 --> 00:22:27.160
the hamper, getting ready to throw in the wash,

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but definitely not the case here. I thought she

00:22:31.140 --> 00:22:35.019
would pull it out. I really did, but she's not

00:22:35.019 --> 00:22:38.640
done. Maybe not as good as she was, but she's

00:22:38.640 --> 00:22:41.220
still tough as nails and has a decent gas tank.

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She came in overweight. This isn't the first

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time. No, but she was going down a weight class

00:22:48.980 --> 00:22:53.019
as well. That's true. She made her usual weight

00:22:53.019 --> 00:22:55.960
class. She made her usual weight, but didn't

00:22:55.960 --> 00:23:00.920
make the 112. So, Yocasta, she's fighting someone

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15, 20 pounds heavier. 15, probably. Yeah, but

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that's kind of why I thought Esparza might win.

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I knew she'd be bigger. It was an entertaining

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fight. Probably another one where you could argue

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that the two -minute rounds isn't great. No.

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I don't care for the two -minute rounds. Actually,

00:23:21.960 --> 00:23:25.420
that was worth bringing up with Michaela Mayer

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and Sandy Ryan. Mayer might have got the knockout

00:23:28.400 --> 00:23:30.380
if they were three -minute rounds. Yeah, because

00:23:30.380 --> 00:23:32.950
as soon as the action started heating up, The

00:23:32.950 --> 00:23:36.349
fucking round ends. It was ridiculous. I'm with

00:23:36.349 --> 00:23:40.549
the guys in the Discord, or not just Discord,

00:23:40.710 --> 00:23:43.630
but I'm on the side of you can't change it in

00:23:43.630 --> 00:23:47.490
the pros. Just all at once. You gotta start at

00:23:47.490 --> 00:23:51.329
the bottom. Grow it from the bottom. Yeah. You

00:23:51.329 --> 00:23:53.329
can't expect people that have been fighting two

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-minute rounds for 15 years to suddenly just

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do three -minute rounds for 10 rounds. That's

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true. They've been doing it for so long. I would,

00:24:02.089 --> 00:24:04.809
at the very least, then, would like to make the

00:24:04.809 --> 00:24:07.589
round counts the same. Like, title fights are

00:24:07.589 --> 00:24:11.130
12, even if they're still two minutes. I could

00:24:11.130 --> 00:24:14.049
get behind adding rounds. And I do think they

00:24:14.049 --> 00:24:17.369
should go to three -minute rounds. But I think

00:24:17.369 --> 00:24:19.589
you kind of got to do it in the amateurs. From

00:24:19.589 --> 00:24:25.960
the beginning of their journeys. Yeah. But I

00:24:25.960 --> 00:24:29.119
don't know how that really looks either. It's

00:24:29.119 --> 00:24:31.619
hard to make a big change like that in a sport,

00:24:31.779 --> 00:24:34.720
I think. No matter how you do it, people are

00:24:34.720 --> 00:24:36.940
going to complain. I haven't really done anything

00:24:36.940 --> 00:24:40.839
like that, really ever, change the round times.

00:24:42.059 --> 00:24:44.920
No, like, I don't know. I'm picturing it kind

00:24:44.920 --> 00:24:49.519
of being like helmets in hockey, where it becomes,

00:24:49.779 --> 00:24:52.019
I guess in boxing, it would be one more thing

00:24:52.019 --> 00:24:56.329
that you negotiate. Could be. You negotiate the

00:24:56.329 --> 00:24:59.609
size of the ring, you negotiate the number of

00:24:59.609 --> 00:25:05.309
rounds for fights. Women for maybe five years

00:25:05.309 --> 00:25:07.210
while people are coming up from the amateurs

00:25:07.210 --> 00:25:10.829
negotiate the time length. That could have some

00:25:10.829 --> 00:25:14.410
repercussions that are unexpected though. Yeah,

00:25:14.410 --> 00:25:17.470
but I mean like so many things are negotiated

00:25:17.470 --> 00:25:20.890
fight to fight in boxing. I don't think negotiating

00:25:20.890 --> 00:25:24.200
the length of the rounds would be... that much

00:25:24.200 --> 00:25:27.819
different. I guess you're right. They just gotta

00:25:27.819 --> 00:25:30.000
get the sanctioning bodies on board. Because

00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.920
that's what's holding it up at this point, I

00:25:31.920 --> 00:25:35.359
think. Some of these women want three. Yeah.

00:25:36.440 --> 00:25:39.960
And the fucking argument that women can't fight

00:25:39.960 --> 00:25:43.579
three minute rounds is stupid. I guess they could.

00:25:43.819 --> 00:25:47.220
UFC or MMA in general, they fight five minutes.

00:25:47.660 --> 00:25:51.240
Same as the men do. They have some bullshit argument

00:25:51.240 --> 00:25:55.819
about injuries and stuff. It's stupid. No, yeah.

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Yocasta Valle, split decision over Marlon Esparza.

00:26:00.180 --> 00:26:04.759
If you're listening, Joey, our girl, she didn't

00:26:04.759 --> 00:26:07.799
make it. It's alright, though. Yocasta Valle,

00:26:07.920 --> 00:26:11.960
always fantastic. Always fun to watch. She beats

00:26:11.960 --> 00:26:16.700
Anissa Estrada, and I'll die on that hill. I

00:26:16.700 --> 00:26:19.450
like Valle. I do. I just thought that Esparza

00:26:19.450 --> 00:26:22.509
was going to be too big for her. Yeah, it was

00:26:22.509 --> 00:26:25.430
a problem for sure. It did prove to be a problem

00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:35.089
still. Oscar Collazo. KO5 over Edwin Cano. WBA,

00:26:35.230 --> 00:26:39.250
WBO, minimum weight titles on the line. Good

00:26:39.250 --> 00:26:44.089
stuff. I have very little notes. He looked great.

00:26:44.470 --> 00:26:47.119
He's... Bring in excitement to a weight division

00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:50.500
that, what did we call them? Or what did you

00:26:50.500 --> 00:26:52.779
call them? What did I call them? Victim weights?

00:26:53.039 --> 00:26:57.019
Victim weights. I know the guys in the chat were

00:26:57.019 --> 00:27:00.059
kind of saying that Koyazo was not, you know,

00:27:00.059 --> 00:27:02.680
good for beating all these cans. But, I mean,

00:27:02.720 --> 00:27:04.779
his skill, he has skill. He's got a lot of skill.

00:27:04.960 --> 00:27:10.700
He is not beating cans. Koyazo's good. And he's

00:27:10.700 --> 00:27:14.809
only had 11 fights. I hate. When people do this

00:27:14.809 --> 00:27:16.450
with the minimum weights, it's like, oh, he's

00:27:16.450 --> 00:27:19.410
just been knocking over Thai cans for however

00:27:19.410 --> 00:27:26.609
long. And it's like, no. He won a belt in ten

00:27:26.609 --> 00:27:30.069
fights. Maybe less than ten fights. Less than

00:27:30.069 --> 00:27:35.210
ten. Yeah, he won a belt in nine fights. Became

00:27:35.210 --> 00:27:41.920
a unified champion in ten. Yeah, I don't... I

00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:44.180
don't understand why people are saying he's knocking

00:27:44.180 --> 00:27:46.880
over cans. They're not cans. They're fucking

00:27:46.880 --> 00:27:49.740
title holders. Who else do you want them to fight?

00:27:50.519 --> 00:27:52.619
They're pretty good people, you know? Not bad.

00:27:53.220 --> 00:27:56.240
Yeah, they're fine. Collazo's good, though. Collazo's

00:27:56.240 --> 00:28:00.720
good. He's gonna be a problem. His biggest problem

00:28:00.720 --> 00:28:03.420
is gonna be that he's tiny. Like, even at that

00:28:03.420 --> 00:28:06.359
weight class, he's not very big. He's 5 '2".

00:28:06.359 --> 00:28:13.700
Like, CP Freshmart is... was... Is 5 '0". I think

00:28:13.700 --> 00:28:20.180
Melvin Jerusalem is also 5 '0"? Yeah, and so

00:28:20.180 --> 00:28:24.680
are the brothers. The Shigeoka brothers? Yeah.

00:28:24.839 --> 00:28:30.279
I think they're both 5 '0". Melvin is 5 '2".

00:28:30.279 --> 00:28:37.819
Everybody in there is about 4 '10"-5 '2". There's

00:28:37.819 --> 00:28:40.460
not much height range. There's this one, this

00:28:40.460 --> 00:28:46.519
other Filipino guy, Pedro Taduran. He's 5 '4".

00:28:46.519 --> 00:28:50.559
So that's actually pretty tall for 105. He's

00:28:50.559 --> 00:28:57.700
tall for 105. Not Katani, 105. But no, I don't

00:28:57.700 --> 00:29:00.619
think anybody beats Collazo in that weight class.

00:29:00.839 --> 00:29:05.900
I think he could also move up at least one. Maybe

00:29:05.900 --> 00:29:10.349
to the strawweight, right? This is Strawweight.

00:29:10.710 --> 00:29:15.710
Minimum and Straw are the same names. What's

00:29:15.710 --> 00:29:20.430
the weight class above? Lightflyweight. Who's

00:29:20.430 --> 00:29:22.509
in Lightfly? It's actually really competitive

00:29:22.509 --> 00:29:25.750
right now, Lightfly, isn't it? I don't recognize

00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:30.869
anybody in here. Oh. But there are some decent

00:29:30.869 --> 00:29:37.130
records. Filipinos, Mexicans. Japanese, Thai,

00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:43.349
as expected. Not really any American stuff, huh?

00:29:44.049 --> 00:29:48.769
No. No, this is flyweight. I'm thinking flyweight.

00:29:49.329 --> 00:29:51.769
Flyweight is very competitive right now. And

00:29:51.769 --> 00:29:54.069
if people want to hear about flyweight, they

00:29:54.069 --> 00:29:57.730
need to come to Boxing Before Dark because there

00:29:57.730 --> 00:30:00.849
was a Japanese doubleheader weekend this same

00:30:00.849 --> 00:30:03.890
weekend that me and Leo are going to talk about.

00:30:04.089 --> 00:30:08.279
Yes. And I'm going to watch it and be well -studied

00:30:08.279 --> 00:30:14.740
and well -prepared. It was great. Man. You know

00:30:14.740 --> 00:30:17.039
what else was good? William Zepeda versus Tevin

00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:23.200
Farmer rematch. It was... It was... I thought

00:30:23.200 --> 00:30:27.440
it... I'm not sure what to really say. It was...

00:30:27.440 --> 00:30:30.940
It was great. Zepeda was putting on the pressure,

00:30:31.019 --> 00:30:33.880
throwing a lot of punches. Tevin Farmer... Showed

00:30:33.880 --> 00:30:37.960
that he's still very crafty. Was landing good

00:30:37.960 --> 00:30:41.319
counters. He was landing some solid shots. Like,

00:30:41.319 --> 00:30:44.599
he was landing the cleaner punches, but much

00:30:44.599 --> 00:30:48.059
fewer. So it's one of those, like, which do you

00:30:48.059 --> 00:30:51.740
prefer? I don't know. I'm kind of feeling like

00:30:51.740 --> 00:30:53.880
Tevin Farmer might have taken this one as well.

00:30:54.339 --> 00:30:58.279
It's like I felt like he took the first. I disagree.

00:30:59.099 --> 00:31:02.240
But the thing is, I think he could have won.

00:31:02.880 --> 00:31:05.119
It seemed like he was injured, correct? Yes.

00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:10.000
Yeah, he fucked up a hand and the other elbow.

00:31:10.599 --> 00:31:13.099
The thing is that with the first fight, I think

00:31:13.099 --> 00:31:16.160
he won personally. This fight, I think he lost,

00:31:16.359 --> 00:31:19.119
but I think he really would have won if he had

00:31:19.119 --> 00:31:21.000
everything. If he was naturally healthy, you

00:31:21.000 --> 00:31:23.819
know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. Healthy farmer

00:31:23.819 --> 00:31:27.059
wins this one. I agree. I honestly believe if

00:31:27.059 --> 00:31:30.720
this went one more round, I think he would have

00:31:30.720 --> 00:31:33.720
knocked out Zepeda. If you saw how he was beating

00:31:33.720 --> 00:31:36.099
up Cepeda in that last round, dude, Cepeda was

00:31:36.099 --> 00:31:38.859
stunned. He was stunned. He had him hurt. He

00:31:38.859 --> 00:31:42.799
was kind of bad. Yeah. If he had taken the initiative,

00:31:43.000 --> 00:31:45.140
I think he would have knocked him down. Well,

00:31:45.160 --> 00:31:47.180
I think Farmer was trying to save his hand for

00:31:47.180 --> 00:31:49.859
that last round. His power hand is the one he

00:31:49.859 --> 00:31:54.019
hurt early. And I think he wasn't throwing full

00:31:54.019 --> 00:31:57.640
power for most of the fight and really going

00:31:57.640 --> 00:32:01.140
for that knockout in the 12th round. But I did

00:32:01.140 --> 00:32:06.119
think he was behind on the cards. Yeah. He definitely

00:32:06.119 --> 00:32:07.779
won that first fight, though. I don't care what

00:32:07.779 --> 00:32:10.779
anyone says. They fucked him. He won the first

00:32:10.779 --> 00:32:14.720
fight. I felt really bad for Farmer, too, because

00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.279
they told him to do the interview, and he was

00:32:18.279 --> 00:32:21.420
like, no, I don't want to. And then he was angry.

00:32:23.240 --> 00:32:25.200
He said some things he probably shouldn't have

00:32:25.200 --> 00:32:27.480
said. Nothing terrible, but just like, I'm so

00:32:27.480 --> 00:32:29.519
fucking sick of this. I always lose the close

00:32:29.519 --> 00:32:32.880
fights. Yeah, how many more times do I have to

00:32:32.880 --> 00:32:38.400
do this before one of them goes my way? And he

00:32:38.400 --> 00:32:40.940
was still respectful to Zepeda, though. Like,

00:32:40.940 --> 00:32:44.819
Farmer's a respectful guy. I like Kevin Farmer,

00:32:44.920 --> 00:32:47.279
but yeah, he always gets fucked on close fights.

00:32:47.460 --> 00:32:50.160
This one, I don't think he particularly should

00:32:50.160 --> 00:32:53.539
have won, but... I honestly don't really think

00:32:53.539 --> 00:32:56.940
that it was really in his... I'll explain. It

00:32:56.940 --> 00:32:58.200
just wasn't possible for him to win this one

00:32:58.200 --> 00:33:00.339
if he was injured like that. You know what I

00:33:00.339 --> 00:33:03.859
mean? I guess someone like Zepeda. You need to

00:33:03.859 --> 00:33:05.460
throw... You need to give it all out to Zepeda.

00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.920
But... That was something that Tevin Farmer did

00:33:08.920 --> 00:33:13.059
say. Yeah. And the thing is with Tevin Farmer,

00:33:13.140 --> 00:33:14.640
I mean, he didn't crash out as bad as someone

00:33:14.640 --> 00:33:17.279
like Anthony Joshua and Usyk. You know what I

00:33:17.279 --> 00:33:20.279
mean? No, no, it wasn't like a terrible crash

00:33:20.279 --> 00:33:23.640
out, but it was, I am emotional and I don't want

00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.640
to talk to you. And then they made him talk.

00:33:26.220 --> 00:33:29.920
Yeah. I don't think they should do that to boxers.

00:33:30.339 --> 00:33:32.880
Boxers should have the right to like refuse those

00:33:32.880 --> 00:33:37.220
after immediate after interviews. Well, I'm going

00:33:37.220 --> 00:33:38.900
to get out of the ring. Yeah. Usually when they

00:33:38.900 --> 00:33:40.799
do, when they leave the ring, that's how they

00:33:40.799 --> 00:33:44.259
avoid it. They stopped them from leaving the

00:33:44.259 --> 00:33:49.220
ring. Oh, lame. Like he was on his way out and

00:33:49.220 --> 00:33:51.380
they stopped him and told him he had to do the

00:33:51.380 --> 00:33:54.619
interview. Lame. Pretty lame. I did notice that

00:33:54.619 --> 00:33:58.160
Claudia was not translating it in real time.

00:33:59.920 --> 00:34:04.119
Oh, the farmer. Yeah. Yeah. She didn't translate

00:34:04.119 --> 00:34:10.260
it to the Mexican crowd. Yep. Yeah. I like Claudia.

00:34:10.340 --> 00:34:12.840
I think she's good at her job. Probably the right

00:34:12.840 --> 00:34:18.090
call not to translate that. Because he was already

00:34:18.090 --> 00:34:21.090
getting booed hard, and they booed the fuck out

00:34:21.090 --> 00:34:25.829
of the American anthem, and I loved it. Oh, yeah,

00:34:25.849 --> 00:34:30.730
that's right. You're Canadian. Yeah, I am. William

00:34:30.730 --> 00:34:34.289
Zepeda, what is next? Because if he's thinking

00:34:34.289 --> 00:34:36.409
that he's really going to fight Shakur Stevenson,

00:34:36.610 --> 00:34:40.829
think again, Playboy. That's not the best move

00:34:40.829 --> 00:34:44.670
for you. I personally think that Zepeda, I think

00:34:44.670 --> 00:34:46.210
he's going to become another Giovanni Cabrera.

00:34:46.590 --> 00:34:49.489
Or like a Thomas Delorme, where they pulled up

00:34:49.489 --> 00:34:51.869
younger fighters. Who were we saying that about

00:34:51.869 --> 00:34:54.670
last time? I think last time we said that about,

00:34:54.730 --> 00:34:58.349
I believe, dude. I don't remember. Was it Kambucha?

00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:03.610
Oh, Kambosas. Kambosas. Yeah. Yeah, I think William

00:35:03.610 --> 00:35:06.849
Cepeda is going to be like that for once he loses.

00:35:06.849 --> 00:35:09.170
For Mexico? Yeah, for Mexico, once he loses.

00:35:10.050 --> 00:35:13.449
Because, I don't know, I mean, he has a lot of,

00:35:13.510 --> 00:35:16.340
he has pretty good output. But his skill, man,

00:35:16.360 --> 00:35:19.900
I think he just kind of lacks in, you know? Yeah.

00:35:20.179 --> 00:35:22.340
Zepeda's whole thing is output. You're right.

00:35:22.480 --> 00:35:26.920
Like, if people can handle the pressure, he's

00:35:26.920 --> 00:35:29.440
got nothing. And, dude, that ring was small.

00:35:29.860 --> 00:35:32.599
Like, it was really, really small. And the fact

00:35:32.599 --> 00:35:35.199
that he couldn't really cut off the ring properly

00:35:35.199 --> 00:35:39.159
in a small ring like that, that just screams

00:35:39.159 --> 00:35:42.420
to me that he's just a tiny skill. Well, and

00:35:42.420 --> 00:35:45.219
Farber was making him miss. The whole night.

00:35:45.320 --> 00:35:48.239
Farmer was making a mess. That too. I mean, I

00:35:48.239 --> 00:35:50.900
personally think Roach beats him. Zepeda. Well,

00:35:50.920 --> 00:35:53.380
not kills, but you beat him in split to two.

00:35:53.699 --> 00:35:57.420
Shakur, I think also could even knock him out.

00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.880
Shakur does not knock out Zepeda. I would say

00:36:00.880 --> 00:36:03.780
Roach knocks out Zepeda before Shakur does. I

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:06.360
know that sounds silly. I know that sounds silly.

00:36:06.699 --> 00:36:11.110
But Zepeda, to get knocked down by Farmer. Farmer

00:36:11.110 --> 00:36:13.710
has more power than he gets credit for. You guys

00:36:13.710 --> 00:36:17.050
are just wrong about Farmer. I'm agreeing with

00:36:17.050 --> 00:36:20.969
you here. Not you, Leo. I just mean the shit

00:36:20.969 --> 00:36:25.789
talkers. Farmer has power. Not good power, though.

00:36:26.369 --> 00:36:29.050
A fuck of a lot more than Shakur. I was going

00:36:29.050 --> 00:36:32.130
to say, Shakur does. Well, the thing is, I don't

00:36:32.130 --> 00:36:35.769
know. I just feel like Farmer... I don't know.

00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:37.510
It's hard to explain. I think the reason why

00:36:37.510 --> 00:36:40.449
he has good power is because he has really well

00:36:40.449 --> 00:36:43.130
-placed shots. Like, really, really well -placed

00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:45.750
shots. And the way he uses his punches. Half

00:36:45.750 --> 00:36:49.030
of how you get power. That's why Inoue knocks

00:36:49.030 --> 00:36:52.969
people out. Well, Shakur, the way he boxed that

00:36:52.969 --> 00:36:54.710
135 from what I've seen, he doesn't really...

00:36:54.710 --> 00:36:58.269
His jab is not so much a power jab as much as

00:36:58.269 --> 00:36:59.909
it's kind of closer to a flicker jab. Does that

00:36:59.909 --> 00:37:01.250
make sense? Or do you guys disagree with me on

00:37:01.250 --> 00:37:04.110
that? I just think Shakur is shit and I don't

00:37:04.110 --> 00:37:06.429
watch him enough to have an opinion on any specifics.

00:37:07.130 --> 00:37:10.070
You don't like Shakur? I fucking hate Shakur.

00:37:10.230 --> 00:37:16.289
I hate him so much. Why is that? Why? He's boring

00:37:16.289 --> 00:37:19.989
as fuck. oh yeah I hate him because of that too

00:37:19.989 --> 00:37:23.570
but like he talks so he has no self -awareness

00:37:23.570 --> 00:37:26.449
I went on this rant on the other podcast but

00:37:26.449 --> 00:37:30.469
he talks about knocking people out and all this

00:37:30.469 --> 00:37:33.550
stuff and he's never gonna do it like know who

00:37:33.550 --> 00:37:37.269
you are be Reagan now like I'm gonna make you

00:37:37.269 --> 00:37:39.269
look stupid I'm gonna give you a boxing lesson

00:37:39.269 --> 00:37:41.809
you're never gonna touch me these are all facts

00:37:41.809 --> 00:37:44.489
Shakira can say but I'm gonna go in there and

00:37:44.489 --> 00:37:48.710
put him in the hospital no fucking way No fucking

00:37:48.710 --> 00:37:51.349
way. I just think that Zepeda just doesn't have

00:37:51.349 --> 00:37:55.130
enough skill to, you know. I think Zepeda could

00:37:55.130 --> 00:37:58.309
stand there and let Shakur punch him in the face

00:37:58.309 --> 00:38:00.369
for five minutes and Shakur still doesn't knock

00:38:00.369 --> 00:38:04.710
him out. Really? Zepeda has a chin. Well, the

00:38:04.710 --> 00:38:07.789
thing is, I think Zepeda's chin is kind of overrated.

00:38:08.210 --> 00:38:10.389
You know what I mean? I think he's been with

00:38:10.389 --> 00:38:12.789
enough camps to where people think that he does

00:38:12.789 --> 00:38:16.750
have a good chin. Maybe, but Shakur has negative

00:38:16.750 --> 00:38:19.280
power. Yeah, maybe that was a little ballsy.

00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.840
I'm going to stop defending that. I'm thinking

00:38:22.840 --> 00:38:24.440
about it now. Maybe that was a little too controversial,

00:38:24.639 --> 00:38:29.360
even for myself. I'm not saying that Zepeda beats

00:38:29.360 --> 00:38:32.380
him, but Shakur does not knock Zepeda out. Shakur

00:38:32.380 --> 00:38:34.619
doesn't knock anybody out. I think he knocks

00:38:34.619 --> 00:38:36.480
them down at least, though. He gets a knockdown.

00:38:37.559 --> 00:38:40.179
Let me tell you, Shakur's really good. You can't

00:38:40.179 --> 00:38:41.960
deny Shakur's really, really good. He's very

00:38:41.960 --> 00:38:45.769
skilled. Yeah. Yeah. I still think Keyshawn beats

00:38:45.769 --> 00:38:49.389
Kushker. He's a better BOMAC fighter, but, you

00:38:49.389 --> 00:38:52.829
know. Yeah, he does not knock Zepeda out. Does

00:38:52.829 --> 00:38:57.610
Keyshawn knock Zepeda out? Uh, yeah. I lean towards

00:38:57.610 --> 00:39:00.849
no. I don't think Zepeda's chin is as bad as

00:39:00.849 --> 00:39:03.989
you think it is. I don't think it's as good as

00:39:03.989 --> 00:39:07.650
you think it is. Hence the disagreement. Yeah.

00:39:09.730 --> 00:39:14.019
We'll see in the future. I guess. The thing is,

00:39:14.019 --> 00:39:17.880
for Mexicans, I'm not trying to be biased, but

00:39:17.880 --> 00:39:21.139
in the Mexican community, we like to favor the

00:39:21.139 --> 00:39:25.380
Isak Cruises. Yeah, I love Mexican -style fighters.

00:39:26.440 --> 00:39:28.179
The thing is, they're fun to watch, but it's

00:39:28.179 --> 00:39:33.360
just, I don't... I like the B -Bowls. I do like

00:39:33.360 --> 00:39:37.119
the B -Bowls. I just think that watching skill

00:39:37.119 --> 00:39:39.579
and watching a chess match is kind of fun. To

00:39:39.579 --> 00:39:43.530
me, at least. It can be fun as long as they actually

00:39:43.530 --> 00:39:47.170
throw punches and hit people. Yeah, I agree.

00:39:48.610 --> 00:39:51.190
Shakira's too far the other way. It's not watching

00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:54.389
a chess match. It's watching fucking paint dry.

00:39:55.489 --> 00:39:59.469
He's like Ali if Ali never threw a punch. He's

00:39:59.469 --> 00:40:04.309
like Rigendale. Rigendale was... Rigendale could

00:40:04.309 --> 00:40:07.170
if he just chose not to knock people out. Shakira

00:40:07.170 --> 00:40:09.809
can't even choose to knock people out. I won

00:40:09.809 --> 00:40:14.400
35 at least. Fucking anything. Healing punches.

00:40:14.420 --> 00:40:20.559
Him and Devin Haney. That one is a barn burner

00:40:20.559 --> 00:40:25.460
for sure, huh? Devin Haney versus Shakur? I remember

00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:28.619
when Shakur walked into the ring with Devin Haney

00:40:28.619 --> 00:40:31.739
after he beat Lomachenko. I was like, I almost

00:40:31.739 --> 00:40:36.579
cried. Nobody would watch that. No, fuck no.

00:40:37.679 --> 00:40:40.119
Now, with Tank and Shakur, I'd watch. It'd be

00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:46.760
fun. Probably. Maybe. I never get excited about

00:40:46.760 --> 00:40:50.300
Shakur fights. They're not exciting. He is very

00:40:50.300 --> 00:40:53.940
skilled, but he is boring as fuck. And his lack

00:40:53.940 --> 00:40:57.900
of reality in his shit -talking just annoys the

00:40:57.900 --> 00:41:00.760
hell out of me. I guarantee you that they'll

00:41:00.760 --> 00:41:04.320
probably put Shakur versus the Peta on the Canelo

00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:08.320
Crawford undercard. You think so? I think so

00:41:08.320 --> 00:41:11.360
because, I mean... Well, I don't know if it's

00:41:11.360 --> 00:41:14.760
appropriate to say on the air, but it seems like

00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:18.940
they're kind of instigating a certain rivalry.

00:41:20.099 --> 00:41:23.460
Yeah, I can see that. Oh, I know what you mean.

00:41:24.260 --> 00:41:28.400
Yeah, to try to sell tickets. It's not a lie

00:41:28.400 --> 00:41:30.340
that it does sell, that type of rivalry does

00:41:30.340 --> 00:41:33.920
sell, but to try to instigate it like that is

00:41:33.920 --> 00:41:37.500
kind of crummy. Floyd Mayweather made a career

00:41:37.500 --> 00:41:43.679
off of it. In the latter half. He's a real candle.

00:41:43.920 --> 00:41:48.579
They do make those country versus country cards

00:41:48.579 --> 00:41:50.719
every once in a while. Japan does it. They'll

00:41:50.719 --> 00:41:53.119
bring in a whole bunch of Mexicans and it'll

00:41:53.119 --> 00:41:56.219
be like Japan versus Mexico or Japan versus the

00:41:56.219 --> 00:42:00.480
Philippines. Not the big televised ones, but

00:42:00.480 --> 00:42:03.380
like Koraku and Paul has Japan versus the Philippines

00:42:03.380 --> 00:42:08.900
fucking twice a year, I think. I know They have

00:42:08.900 --> 00:42:12.199
Mexico versus Puerto Rico. Yeah, they do those

00:42:12.199 --> 00:42:15.519
cards a lot. Yeah, which I think I'm getting

00:42:15.519 --> 00:42:19.639
sick of as well. Well, the rivalry isn't that...

00:42:19.639 --> 00:42:22.300
Well, and it's not that good right now. There's

00:42:22.300 --> 00:42:25.699
not that many good Puerto Ricans right now. Oscar

00:42:25.699 --> 00:42:31.019
Collazo, baby. Yeah, but I mean, you can't make...

00:42:31.019 --> 00:42:33.960
There's Mexican minimum weights that he could

00:42:33.960 --> 00:42:38.010
fight. That's worth... You know, the rivalry

00:42:38.010 --> 00:42:40.670
title, you know what I mean? But you can't make

00:42:40.670 --> 00:42:43.190
a whole card out of it. Like, there's not three

00:42:43.190 --> 00:42:47.269
good Puerto Rico versus Mexico fights. Berlanga,

00:42:47.289 --> 00:42:52.510
Zayas, and Colazo. There you go. Boom. I guess.

00:42:53.289 --> 00:42:57.849
We should be promoters. We should be promoters,

00:42:57.849 --> 00:43:01.429
huh? We would be good promoters, but we would

00:43:01.429 --> 00:43:04.550
end up being crummy in the end. Anything more?

00:43:05.230 --> 00:43:08.530
No, I don't think so. For this one? No. All right.

00:43:09.369 --> 00:43:12.510
Zepeda was underwhelming, and Farmer wins if

00:43:12.510 --> 00:43:18.369
his hand isn't busted. Yes. All right. Last thing

00:43:18.369 --> 00:43:23.449
is, just really quickly, Konstantin Ursu. It's

00:43:23.449 --> 00:43:27.150
another monster, but this one's from Moldova.

00:43:27.610 --> 00:43:31.630
The Moldovan monster. He slaps Ethan James in

00:43:31.630 --> 00:43:36.440
seven. He should be the bear. Yeah. His last

00:43:36.440 --> 00:43:39.639
name means bear. Why is he not the bear? I don't

00:43:39.639 --> 00:43:44.059
know. Because he's the Moldovan monster. I'm

00:43:44.059 --> 00:43:46.420
so fucking sick of monsters. There's one monster,

00:43:46.559 --> 00:43:54.840
bitches. Well, maybe for you. Be real. There's

00:43:54.840 --> 00:43:58.119
one monster. I got the Mexican monster. I got

00:43:58.119 --> 00:43:59.800
the Mexican monster. You got the Japanese monster.

00:44:00.250 --> 00:44:02.650
If you're the Mexican anything, you're not the

00:44:02.650 --> 00:44:08.369
thing. If you're the someplace thing, you're

00:44:08.369 --> 00:44:11.690
not the thing. You're the knockoff. Of that place

00:44:11.690 --> 00:44:15.090
only. Yeah. You're going to piss off the Mexican

00:44:15.090 --> 00:44:19.630
audience with that one. Good. They need to face

00:44:19.630 --> 00:44:22.849
reality. They can call in. The Mexican audience

00:44:22.849 --> 00:44:28.900
can call in at our number. 833 -589 -7637. There

00:44:28.900 --> 00:44:32.260
you go. I had a beta. I had a beta. Leo, did

00:44:32.260 --> 00:44:36.619
it say that way? Yeah. But, well, his nickname

00:44:36.619 --> 00:44:38.860
before was cooler anyways because he was the

00:44:38.860 --> 00:44:42.500
red flag, right? Yeah. That's a way cooler nickname.

00:44:42.539 --> 00:44:46.320
That was a cool name. The Mexican monster. Oh,

00:44:46.400 --> 00:44:48.320
I'm the dollar store version from a different

00:44:48.320 --> 00:44:57.360
country. Yeah. Anyways. Right. So that was a

00:44:57.360 --> 00:45:00.380
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There's that. and moving into previews there's

00:48:04.039 --> 00:48:09.099
not a lot of them uh i have the tiger on the

00:48:09.099 --> 00:48:15.340
10th um it's a bunch of on here there's a lot

00:48:15.340 --> 00:48:18.900
of french canadians so if you like french canadians

00:48:18.900 --> 00:48:21.739
then there you go it's boxing nobody likes french

00:48:21.739 --> 00:48:25.260
canadians not even the french canadians wait

00:48:25.260 --> 00:48:27.880
you guys like french canadians up there nobody

00:48:27.880 --> 00:48:33.019
likes the french canadians from anywhere Dr.

00:48:33.079 --> 00:48:38.320
Blue, where is me mama? What? That was the surprise

00:48:38.320 --> 00:48:41.199
reference, I'm sorry. Oh, I never watched that

00:48:41.199 --> 00:48:46.320
one. Dr. Blue. Oh, Dr. Blue, where is me mama?

00:48:47.900 --> 00:48:51.340
No, you need to... You guys should look up Quebec

00:48:51.340 --> 00:48:54.659
accents. They're fucking awful. I've heard nothing

00:48:54.659 --> 00:49:04.230
good about them. Fucking awful. The stereotypical

00:49:04.230 --> 00:49:11.889
sort of caricature -ish. Yeah, except like through

00:49:11.889 --> 00:49:16.190
the nose and more French -Canadian swearing.

00:49:17.590 --> 00:49:19.670
That's going to be our downfall is the French

00:49:19.670 --> 00:49:24.369
-Canadians in this podcast. They're going to

00:49:24.369 --> 00:49:28.389
protest this podcast. The French are good at

00:49:28.389 --> 00:49:32.420
protesting. They can come for me. They can come

00:49:32.420 --> 00:49:35.699
for me. I'm from Western Canada. The French can

00:49:35.699 --> 00:49:42.019
go fuck themselves. With the beavers. Right.

00:49:43.639 --> 00:49:47.960
After we're done fucking the French here. Marv

00:49:47.960 --> 00:49:52.679
Nation. This is in Albuquerque at The Pit. I

00:49:52.679 --> 00:49:55.739
wasn't going to even check this one out until

00:49:55.739 --> 00:50:00.510
I saw the name of the venue. And then I decided,

00:50:00.610 --> 00:50:03.150
you know what? That's a pretty cool place. What's

00:50:03.150 --> 00:50:08.489
going on here? And we got a bit of a MMA guys

00:50:08.489 --> 00:50:12.730
doing boxing plus some actual boxers. Fucking

00:50:12.730 --> 00:50:17.250
Rampage Jackson. What? Even I know that name.

00:50:17.289 --> 00:50:20.869
Yeah. Versus Rashad Evans. Six rounds at heavyweight.

00:50:22.650 --> 00:50:26.570
That's one of the MMA guys or MMA people fighting

00:50:26.570 --> 00:50:30.139
MMA people boxing. I should say. And then the

00:50:30.139 --> 00:50:33.980
other one, John McDessie versus Diego Sanchez.

00:50:34.440 --> 00:50:38.099
It's one of the first winners of the Ultimate

00:50:38.099 --> 00:50:44.159
Fighter TV show. Nice. On the undercard of this,

00:50:44.239 --> 00:50:48.440
we have Fernando Vargas. This is the eldest,

00:50:48.480 --> 00:50:52.039
I believe, of the Vargas brothers versus Gonzalo

00:50:52.039 --> 00:50:58.099
Correa. 10 rounds at 154. Fucking Shane Mosley

00:50:58.099 --> 00:51:03.559
Jr. versus DeAndre Pettis. 10 rounds at middleweight.

00:51:03.699 --> 00:51:07.659
And Brian Mendoza. Wondered what he was doing

00:51:07.659 --> 00:51:15.179
last week after the Fandoro talk. No, he's fighting

00:51:15.179 --> 00:51:21.380
Jire De Los Santos at 154 as well. Party. Last

00:51:21.380 --> 00:51:27.159
thing, and this is the reason we're here. Motherfucking...

00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:32.159
Jaron Ennis versus Imantas Stanionis. Other than

00:51:32.159 --> 00:51:36.000
Ray Ford versus Thomas Matisse, is there anything

00:51:36.000 --> 00:51:38.960
else on the undercard worth talking about? Wasn't

00:51:38.960 --> 00:51:41.300
Omari Jones fighting in this one or no? He is.

00:51:42.260 --> 00:51:44.500
Omari Jones fighting? Yeah. That's going to be

00:51:44.500 --> 00:51:48.579
worth checking out. Oh, he was on... Yeah, that's

00:51:48.579 --> 00:51:52.599
right. He was on DAZN not too... Like, fucking

00:51:52.599 --> 00:51:56.239
two weeks ago. Three weeks ago. It's going to

00:51:56.239 --> 00:51:58.699
be worth checking out for him. I'm watching his

00:51:58.699 --> 00:52:02.039
career closely. Yeah, Lamar Jones is definitely

00:52:02.039 --> 00:52:06.420
worth watching. I don't recognize anybody else

00:52:06.420 --> 00:52:11.539
other than Ray Ford, so have fun with that. And

00:52:11.539 --> 00:52:17.659
Jaron Ennis unifying the IBF and his IBF with

00:52:17.659 --> 00:52:22.380
Stan Jonas' WBA title. Oh. What happens? Boots

00:52:22.380 --> 00:52:24.900
should win this, right? Yeah, he should. That's

00:52:24.900 --> 00:52:29.199
what we're all expecting? Yes. The thing is that

00:52:29.199 --> 00:52:32.679
I don't think he's going to win easily. No. I

00:52:32.679 --> 00:52:35.980
think it's going to be a war, in my opinion.

00:52:36.340 --> 00:52:38.920
I've been thinking about a lot of fights this

00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.039
year, but this one for sure, the way that Stan

00:52:43.039 --> 00:52:45.980
Yodas fights and Boots fights, it's going to

00:52:45.980 --> 00:52:49.760
devolve into something spectacular. But gruesome,

00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:53.000
I think. I like standing on this. I'm going to

00:52:53.000 --> 00:52:57.260
cheer for him. I'm pretty give or take on Enes.

00:52:58.420 --> 00:53:01.280
The thing with Boots, he's really good. He's

00:53:01.280 --> 00:53:04.119
exceptionally well. He does an exceptionally

00:53:04.119 --> 00:53:08.179
well job at taking down a high guard. But, I

00:53:08.179 --> 00:53:10.159
mean, in my opinion, I think Boots makes a lot

00:53:10.159 --> 00:53:12.920
of mistakes that not a lot of people see. I think

00:53:12.920 --> 00:53:17.760
one of the biggest is his inside work and his

00:53:17.760 --> 00:53:20.059
defense on the inside because a lot of the time

00:53:20.059 --> 00:53:22.519
he just... I don't know the word, but he just

00:53:22.519 --> 00:53:25.340
stops. You know what I mean? He holds a Philly

00:53:25.340 --> 00:53:28.539
shell on the inside. And he doesn't have, like...

00:53:28.539 --> 00:53:32.239
I want to explain this. You know, like, let me

00:53:32.239 --> 00:53:33.599
give you an example. His last fight, right, with

00:53:33.599 --> 00:53:36.920
Chuka Sedazian. He got hit a lot with shots that

00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.199
he should not have gotten hit with if he was

00:53:39.199 --> 00:53:42.900
an elite fighter. You know? He has a really...

00:53:42.900 --> 00:53:45.659
He makes the mistake of just standing in the

00:53:45.659 --> 00:53:49.400
pocket and staying still. You know what I mean?

00:53:49.820 --> 00:53:53.059
Yeah, no, I agree with you. He kind of takes

00:53:53.059 --> 00:53:56.400
breaks almost. Exactly, yeah. And it's like,

00:53:56.500 --> 00:53:59.940
well, if Danny Otis catches him hard, because

00:53:59.940 --> 00:54:03.460
Danny Otis, he's a pretty hard puncher, right?

00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.280
He's got heavy hands. And if he catches boots

00:54:07.280 --> 00:54:11.019
with the left hook, which that's potentially

00:54:11.019 --> 00:54:13.539
going to happen. I don't know what's going to

00:54:13.539 --> 00:54:16.059
happen. I don't know what's going to unfold.

00:54:16.960 --> 00:54:19.260
I think that... This is going to be, for sure,

00:54:19.260 --> 00:54:21.780
Boots' hardest fight. Well, and I do think...

00:54:21.780 --> 00:54:25.900
Knocked out on both ends. I do think Boots might

00:54:25.900 --> 00:54:29.239
have trouble getting Stanionis' respect. Stanionis

00:54:29.239 --> 00:54:33.280
takes a punch well. Like, he's not going to be

00:54:33.280 --> 00:54:36.500
scared. Yeah, for sure. The thing with Boots

00:54:36.500 --> 00:54:39.880
is that I just worry for how he's going to take

00:54:39.880 --> 00:54:42.900
a left hook from Stanionis. Because that Philly

00:54:42.900 --> 00:54:46.280
shell, he does not belong... I don't know. I

00:54:46.280 --> 00:54:49.030
just don't like him using the Philly shell. He's

00:54:49.030 --> 00:54:54.369
from Philly, but you don't need it. Yeah. No,

00:54:54.449 --> 00:54:57.650
this one should be exciting. I'm excited for

00:54:57.650 --> 00:55:03.909
it. Predictions? Ennis with a close decision.

00:55:06.010 --> 00:55:09.250
I think Ennis is probably going to win it, but

00:55:09.250 --> 00:55:12.250
I'm going to be cheering for Stanionis. I might

00:55:12.250 --> 00:55:14.550
put a coffee bet on Stanionis. I think the odds

00:55:14.550 --> 00:55:19.550
will be pretty wide. I believe there's two ways

00:55:19.550 --> 00:55:22.590
it could go. I believe, I think, like what you

00:55:22.590 --> 00:55:26.570
said, a really close end of decision or a standing

00:55:26.570 --> 00:55:33.150
on his TKO. TKO, specifically. Specifically,

00:55:33.309 --> 00:55:35.829
yeah. I don't see standing on his winning this

00:55:35.829 --> 00:55:39.329
via decision. If it's a matchup fight, I don't

00:55:39.329 --> 00:55:42.210
see standing on his winning decision. Possible.

00:55:43.909 --> 00:55:46.309
I don't know about impossible, but unlikely.

00:55:47.939 --> 00:55:50.980
I would say impossible with a match room. They

00:55:50.980 --> 00:55:55.800
tend to do that type of shit. You know? You guys

00:55:55.800 --> 00:55:57.860
know politics, you know? They're not going to

00:55:57.860 --> 00:56:01.079
let Boots Ennis win. Or they're going to have

00:56:01.079 --> 00:56:03.159
to let him lose a decision against a PBC fighter

00:56:03.159 --> 00:56:06.920
on their own. Freaking, you know, on their own

00:56:06.920 --> 00:56:12.119
freaking card. You know what I mean? No. That's

00:56:12.119 --> 00:56:14.559
true. I'm going to be cheering for Estani on

00:56:14.559 --> 00:56:18.730
SKO. Same. Yeah, me too. I like boots, but I

00:56:18.730 --> 00:56:21.570
mean, it would be fun to see. It would be funny

00:56:21.570 --> 00:56:25.949
to see Stanley on his win. Well, we got to back

00:56:25.949 --> 00:56:30.530
the Lithuanians. That's true. I don't know why,

00:56:30.610 --> 00:56:34.489
but we do. I was waiting for the explanation.

00:56:36.989 --> 00:56:40.349
They're not American. Oh. And then I remembered

00:56:40.349 --> 00:56:43.849
you guys were both American. I disagree because

00:56:43.849 --> 00:56:47.139
I thought it was funny. Well, anything more for

00:56:47.139 --> 00:56:51.539
the matchroom card? No. All right. Well, then,

00:56:51.559 --> 00:56:59.340
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That. So, we're heading into Boots Weekend. Also,

00:58:10.510 --> 00:58:15.570
UFC 314, Fear of the Persuasion. But it's Boots

00:58:15.570 --> 00:58:21.869
Weekend. Parting words. Alex, start us off. Yeah.

00:58:23.090 --> 00:58:26.570
I'm hopeful to see how Omar Jones' career looks

00:58:26.570 --> 00:58:30.090
like, his professional career. I think he can

00:58:30.090 --> 00:58:35.090
excel. I know a lot of Olympic guys, they kind

00:58:35.090 --> 00:58:39.449
of... become so part of the pros. But you know

00:58:39.449 --> 00:58:43.449
what? I think he can. He's got the goods. I think

00:58:43.449 --> 00:58:44.590
he's got the goods. We'll see what happens in

00:58:44.590 --> 00:58:49.150
the future. My turn? Yep. I actually got a quote

00:58:49.150 --> 00:58:54.269
for this one. So, I really like Edgar Allan Poe's

00:58:54.269 --> 00:58:57.489
writing and his whole life story is fucking madness

00:58:57.489 --> 00:59:01.030
and his death is crazy. If you guys don't know

00:59:01.030 --> 00:59:03.690
how Edgar Allan Poe died, you should go read

00:59:03.690 --> 00:59:07.829
the Wikipedia. Absolutely. Yeah. It's, well,

00:59:08.030 --> 00:59:10.590
like, mysteriously is the best way to put it.

00:59:10.889 --> 00:59:13.909
He disappeared one night, and then they found

00:59:13.909 --> 00:59:17.050
him the next day delirious in somebody else's

00:59:17.050 --> 00:59:20.389
clothes. And then he died at the hospital. And

00:59:20.389 --> 00:59:24.409
nobody knows what the fuck happened. But Edgar

00:59:24.409 --> 00:59:29.530
Allan Poe's life is awesome. But I found a quote,

00:59:29.630 --> 00:59:31.570
not from one of his stories, but just something

00:59:31.570 --> 00:59:34.949
he said that I really liked. All religion, my

00:59:34.949 --> 00:59:37.690
friend, is simply evolved out of fraud, fear,

00:59:37.869 --> 00:59:41.849
greed, imagination, and poetry. I like that one.

00:59:42.289 --> 00:59:44.710
I like boxing. Yeah, I need to find somebody

00:59:44.710 --> 00:59:47.210
who liked boxing and wrote about boxing. But

00:59:47.210 --> 00:59:51.070
I have read every Edgar Allan Poe story and poem,

00:59:51.170 --> 00:59:54.630
and some of them are hit or miss, but a lot of

00:59:54.630 --> 00:59:58.250
the less popular ones are really mindfucks. Yes,

00:59:58.289 --> 01:00:04.039
I've read a few of them. Yeah, I love them. I

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:08.500
think I already mentioned UFC 314, so check out

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01:00:10.400 --> 01:00:14.920
about that event. You can't see it, but I'm wearing

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01:00:26.300 --> 01:00:28.579
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01:00:28.579 --> 01:00:31.300
like jazz. The better it is, the less people

01:00:31.300 --> 01:00:35.840
appreciate it. Nice. Confound. God damn it, George.

01:00:36.579 --> 01:00:40.780
Always with the good shit. I know. That's going

01:00:40.780 --> 01:00:42.619
to do it for this edition. And if you want to

01:00:42.619 --> 01:00:44.840
hear about a whole bunch of Japanese boxing.

01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:48.960
Boxing before dark. Because I have three cards

01:00:48.960 --> 01:00:50.940
that we're going to go through. And they were

01:00:50.940 --> 01:00:58.840
all exciting. Oh, shit. Was I right? Yeah. That's

01:00:58.840 --> 01:01:01.219
it for this edition of the Boxing B -Sides. We'll

01:01:01.219 --> 01:01:17.199
catch you next time. Bye. Later. Welcome to the

01:01:17.199 --> 01:01:19.760
fucking show. All right, just a quick blurb,

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:21.579
just so you can get back to what you were doing.

01:01:22.599 --> 01:01:28.860
Why would a boxing fan, let's assume they're

01:01:28.860 --> 01:01:31.989
like a purist or some shit. Why would they want

01:01:31.989 --> 01:01:35.070
to watch MMA? Why would they want to listen to

01:01:35.070 --> 01:01:38.110
an MMA show? I'm going to come at this from sort

01:01:38.110 --> 01:01:41.750
of like a primal level. So I will admit there

01:01:41.750 --> 01:01:46.429
are some very unique and stark differences between

01:01:46.429 --> 01:01:49.610
MMA and boxing. And it seems like one of the

01:01:49.610 --> 01:01:53.070
main things that keeps boxing fans away from

01:01:53.070 --> 01:01:56.630
MMA is the grappling aspect. And yet sometimes

01:01:56.630 --> 01:02:00.960
it can be a lay and pray. uh type of fight and

01:02:00.960 --> 01:02:06.039
it can get old but man like it's just instinctual

01:02:06.039 --> 01:02:08.940
man some of these people the way they find an

01:02:08.940 --> 01:02:12.099
mma is just brutal and i feel like that's what

01:02:12.099 --> 01:02:13.860
it comes down to when it comes to being a combat

01:02:13.860 --> 01:02:18.940
fan a combat sports fan um i mean we saw it just

01:02:18.940 --> 01:02:23.960
recently uh mauricio uh roofie versus uh bobby

01:02:23.960 --> 01:02:27.179
green a spinning back fit or spinning uh a wheel

01:02:27.179 --> 01:02:30.690
wheel uh wheel kick Man, it's I mean, they went

01:02:30.690 --> 01:02:33.130
viral and it's something that everyone can appreciate,

01:02:33.349 --> 01:02:36.510
even boxing fans. I know if you have a few friends

01:02:36.510 --> 01:02:40.329
that are boxing fans who I sent him that clip.

01:02:40.730 --> 01:02:44.050
I mean, and they they were amazed and that, you

01:02:44.050 --> 01:02:45.590
know, they won't even tell me that they wish

01:02:45.590 --> 01:02:48.670
they would have seen it live because seeing seeing

01:02:48.670 --> 01:02:52.389
that that type of stuff live just elicits like

01:02:52.389 --> 01:02:55.409
a euphoric feeling that, you know, you can't

01:02:55.409 --> 01:02:57.110
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too. Whenever

01:02:57.110 --> 01:03:00.019
you see like an amazing fight. But I just got

01:03:00.019 --> 01:03:04.679
to say, like in MMA, you get those type of fights

01:03:04.679 --> 01:03:08.260
as well, just in a different type. It's different,

01:03:08.300 --> 01:03:11.460
but sort of the same. It's sort of weird how

01:03:11.460 --> 01:03:13.639
I describe it, but it's different, but the same.

01:03:13.800 --> 01:03:16.599
It comes down to that same like carnal or primal

01:03:16.599 --> 01:03:21.119
instinct of just like fights. Yeah, I always

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think like the biggest. The easiest transition

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that I always recommend, I say this all the time

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on Ultimate fucking Casuals, is if you're not

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too keen on the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing

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are exactly where you want to start. Like, you

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start working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,

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all that stuff, and you can come to learn to

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appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,

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and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it

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is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends

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on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's

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boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah, you're

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right. But man, some of these grapplers, man,

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these scrambles that they do, it is pretty crazy

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just to see it. Rolling around the floor, you

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can see the stuff that they're doing in between

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the scrambles. It's sort of crazy. Flipping someone

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over, the trips, I mean, it's... It can be fun,

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but yeah, you're right. The easiest transition

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is definitely start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing,

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and, you know, slowly work your way into MMA.

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And, you know, this is the thing about the ultimate

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fucking casuals. We will let you know which fights

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are going to be good. Which ones, you know, if

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you're not too in tune with the grappling, we

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can get maybe a little tag or a little asterisk

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on certain fights saying, like, this is a boxing

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purist type of fight. you can watch this and

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enjoy this like we'll let you know yeah we always

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try um like i came into this the whole show was

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started with me i didn't know shit about mma

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i'd never really seen an mma fight in its entirety

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in my entire life and i came into this with nothing

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and yeah that's where we're at now is like we're

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talking like i make sure i go out of my way to

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bring up muay thai And bring up kickboxing so

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that people know. For boxing fans to know, this

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is where you can start. All right. Well, that

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was about it. I really appreciate your time.

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Thanks, Isaac, for jumping on real quick. Thanks

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for having me on. All right. Thank you.