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You're really sad. Yeah, I saw that. I was like,

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man. That was my first Batman, was Val Kilmer.

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Yeah, Val Kilmer was one of my Hollywood crushes

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as a kid. I can see why. He's a very handsome

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dude. It's going to sound like a weird role to

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choose. But him as Doc Holliday in Tombstone.

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I absolutely see why that would be. I said this

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to somebody and they're like, you mean the sick

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dying version of Val Kilmer. Yeah, but he was

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dying in a hot way. Oh. So was that like Florence

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Nightingale kind of thing? No, I don't think

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so. I think Val Kilmer is a good -looking man,

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and I like Tombstone the movie. It's a great,

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great movie. I've been trying to find it to re

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-watch it, but it's not on any of the streamers.

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I can oblige. Nice. Oh, man. I remember... Was

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he top secret? Do you know Top Secret? No, I

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don't know about Top Secret. One second. I can't

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remember if that's him or Johnny Depp. I can't

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tell from the... Yeah. Okay, Top Secret is like

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airplane style comedy, but James Bond -ish. Anyways,

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you should go find it. Kind of, but different.

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Yeah, airplane style versus the really... overtly

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campy type of shit that Austin Powers did. What's

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the little blurb they give? My Google's back

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to being in Japanese and I don't know why. Okay,

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top secret. An American rock and roll singer

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is invited to a cultural festival in East Germany

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in order to distract from a plot to destroy NATO

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submarines, but he accidentally becomes involved

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in a resistance plot to rescue an imprisoned

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scientist. okay all right val kilmer is the rock

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and roll star but like at one point he's crawling

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through a field and he like crawls up to a pair

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of boots and they're just boots in a field and

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then he does it again but the boots move but

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it's a cow wearing rubber boots what the hell

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okay yeah this is you have to go find it this

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sounds like um Get Him to the Greek meets Austin

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Powers. I haven't seen it for decades, but I

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think that is probably pretty fair. I just remember

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it feeling like Airplane. Like that stupid kind

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of, yeah. That's what Austin Powers is. That's

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really silly. Kung Pao, Enter the Fist. Yeah.

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That type of silliness. It's Val Kilmer being

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a comedy star and not like an action star. Or

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drama type. Yeah. Yeah. Because like Batman Forever

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felt a lot more like a drama than it did like

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a Batman action movie. The same way some of the

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others did. Yeah. Man. He's been really sick

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for a while though. I guess it's not. Yeah. It

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was like pneumonia for like the third time or

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something. yeah well he had throat cancer or

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whatever like a long time ago didn't he that's

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why he quit acting he could hardly talk anymore

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i didn't know that that's that was years ago

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that makes it makes sense that that way like

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he was in what was that movie like uh gruber

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or something like mcgruber yeah some shit it

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was like a cheesy action movie And he was the

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big bad in that one. He had a big scar from surgery.

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That's why he always wore scarves at the end.

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Oh, I see. In that one, he let it be visible.

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And it was part of his big bad persona. Nice.

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Yeah, I remember that. I remember because MacGruber...

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The movie was MacGruber. Man, who was the 80s

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star, like would fix anything with like a paper

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clip and a rubber band? MacGyver. MacGyver. So

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it was like MacGruber was like a play on MacGyver.

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And we had a guy in my unit at the time. His

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name was Gruber. So he just became MacGruber.

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And he had no say in it as much as he disliked

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it. The more he complained, the more it became

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cemented. Of course. Yep. Sorry, group. Man,

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is this a good time for like a little formal

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intro? Where's your soju and soju drop shots?

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Drop shot drinks. I could go grab my soju, but

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it's peach flavored. I have purple punch big

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sips. Nice. pre -game cocktail pound one before

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you go into wherever you're going and save yourself

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a little yep little drink ball bombs isn't there

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one that's like balls okay yep yeah i thought

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there was one that was also something bombs and

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they look like little cartoony bombs maybe i

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am gonna get my soju yeah do it it's saturday

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i'll be right back yep Oh, boy. Oh, it's a party

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now. I had a Korean guy making fun of me because

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I buy the flavored one, man. OK, well, it probably

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helped when I lived in Korea that I would always

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like I'd go shopping with my girlfriend. And

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so like if I bought anything, quote unquote,

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girly, nobody would ever say anything. Yeah.

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Well, also, I'm a girl, so. Yeah, no shit. Like,

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what the fuck? Like, I could buy girly shit because

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I had a girl with me. You're a girl buying girly

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shit. What's the fucking deal? Yeah, who cares?

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But also, they are still, what are they, 10 %

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alcohol? They're like regular wines. Yeah, they're

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like 10 % to 15 % depending on which one you

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get. I can't actually find it on here because

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it's all in Japanese. I think this one's 13%.

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Anyways, doesn't matter. Not the point. I just

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buy them like wine coolers. With the flavored

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ones, yeah. You could get like a really strong

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wine cooler. So I was just, you know, I grabbed

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a bag of chips and I think two of the sojus.

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I was like, fuck it. I'm going to get tipsy tonight.

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And this guy's like, oh, drinking the girly drinks.

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And I was like, yup. As opposed to what? Any

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drink that I get, if I'm a girl, any drink I

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get is a girly drink. It doesn't matter. I could

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get the dumpster water flavored something or

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other, and it would still be girly. Oh, fuck.

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Speaking of girls' drinks, they have... uh jim

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beam peach flavored whiskey yeah you mentioned

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that yeah i still can't find my crown royal i'm

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pissed you know crown royal with the flavored

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stuff they make uh canned cocktails and there's

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they have a peach one an apple one and then like

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a regular uh crown and coke nice yeah they make

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just like peach flavored crown royal yeah i'm

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familiar I think it's still 40%. Like, I don't

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think they water it down very much. No, they

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don't. And it's fucking dangerous. I know. I

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know. I've had some wild nights with Crown Royal.

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Me and one of my friends bought, like, the regular

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-sized bottle, a 2 -6 or whatever, and we accidentally

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drank the whole thing. And I was like, how does

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this fucking happen as an accident? I was so

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wrecked. Didn't make it home, slept on his floor

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with his dog, woke up the next day, hung over

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his fuck, and I'm like, but it tastes like peaches.

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It tastes like peach juice. That's what it tastes

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like. For the uninitiated, like crown, peach

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crown is like the syrup that's inside of like

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canned peaches. Just a little, not as thick,

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but it is that sweet. It's so good. And it's

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really dangerous. It's built for making cocktails,

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but I'm a lazy piece of shit, so I just drink

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it on ice. Well, all right. Let me give us a

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little formal introduction here. Boxing before

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dark. Boxing before dark. I decided to put in

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a little X on the... I don't know if you noticed,

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but rather than being BBD, because, you know,

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you know, it's BXBD now, but still fun. Boxing

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before dark. It's all the boxing and a lot more

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fun. Like crown peach fun. I get so off topic.

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We had to just get me away from the main show.

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No, it's not just you. Something I noticed that

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happened with Drip a lot is we would have a lot

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of stuff in the weeds, and he'd be like, what

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the fuck are you guys talking about? I'm like,

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hey, this is important. But then I realized it's

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not important. At all. Nobody gives a shit. So

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that's Boxing Before Dark. We're here to talk

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about the shit that may not make a regular podcast.

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But still, if you want to get... further into

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the weeds than boxing b -sides we're here to

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get you nice and uh crawling through the fields

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up to some rubber boots top secret style top

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secret uh all right um so first things first

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farmer tevin farmer reveals that he has tourette

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syndrome I want you to gloat. Go ahead. You called

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it. I fucking called this. You called it. I called

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this. Everybody was telling me it was all in

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my head, that there was nothing going on. You're

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seeing things. No, you're overthinking it. It's

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not that big a deal. Not some sort of neural

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damage, but definitely a clear tick that I did

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not make up. I fucking called it. I noticed the

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tick. I just wasn't sure if it was as bad as

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you were thinking it was. It's pretty bad. It

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is very noticeable. For people who are saying

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you were making it up, it's like, man, are you

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watching Tevin Farmer? Are we watching the same

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person right now? Because there's clearly something

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going on. I am glad that it's something not damage

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-related. Yeah, it's more innocuous than... something

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else but i do think it did get worse after his

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um jojo diaz after jojo diaz fight yeah and that's

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when he took that long time off so i wonder if

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they weren't trying to get him dialed in on i

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don't know is there even medicine for torrents

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not the type that's gonna get you to stop ticking

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you it'll it'll uh dampen it but not not to the

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point that it disappears Right. I wonder if he

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needed some time to dial in something that let

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him keep boxing. How to channel your tick. Yeah.

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Rather than letting it be a tell. And the fucking

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announcers keep saying he's looking up at the

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score clock or the time clock or whatever. And

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I'm like, no, he's not, guys. That is not what

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this is. Man. Anyways, I have queued up. the

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voice thing insert here vindication all right

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vindication i love brooklyn 99 oh i've been meaning

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to watch that you've never seen it it's really

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good highly recommend it i'm still uh trying

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to work my way through modern family which is

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100 up my alley and i know brooklyn 99 is too

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i've seen Some of Modern Family, but I've never

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sat down and watched it. Oh, while we're in the

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weeds again, the second season of Windbreaker

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has started. The teen school gang fighting anime

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I like. Oh, yeah. Fucking first episode of season

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two just starts with an all out gang war. And

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you're like, what the hell happened? How did

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we get here? How did we go from the end of season

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one to this? I mean, it kind of makes sense,

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but also just like no buildup at all. It's just,

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all right, guess we're busting in and kicking

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the shit out of these guys. Rather than like

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an upward checkmark, we're checkmarking down

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and we're going to dip from here and then build

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back up to something else. I think it's just

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we're going to start at the top and fucking buckle

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in, boys. Because, yeah, we're going. we're going

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top speed yeah uh fire force is also getting

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season three but it's been so long since season

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two i gotta re -watch it season one i've seen

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like six times these sound directing i don't

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know what you call that it's amazing in fire

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force they use like negative sound somehow i

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don't know how to describe it yeah super cool

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that's yeah that sounds actually pretty interesting

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The sound mixing is the best in anime, and the

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visuals are cool. The world's cool. I just really

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like Fire Force. Well, speaking of sound, should

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they let boxers avoid the post -fight interview

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in the ring immediately after the fight? I think

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yes. I think so too. If they don't want to take

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it, they shouldn't have to. I like... Because

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that was Claudia Trejo, right? Yes. I put this

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on to discuss because Farmer said he didn't want

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to do the interview. He said twice and was trying

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to walk away, and they told him he had to. And

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then people got mad about what he had to say.

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He warned you twice. Yeah, and he didn't even

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say anything that bad. No, nothing that was all

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that questionable. He said what you would expect

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from a guy who just lost a super close fight

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for the second time. He said all the things that

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you would expect. I don't know what I have to

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do to get the judges on my side. Of course, I'm

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going to lose in his hometown. All the hallmarks

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of what you'd expect. I don't see why people

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would be upset about what he said. Well, and

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he even opened it up with the generic, like,

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I am not mad at Zepeda. Zepeda's a good fighter.

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He did what he's supposed to do. But, like, just

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let the guy go be angry and interview him at

00:17:10.609 --> 00:17:15.089
the end. Didn't they let one of the Malonis just

00:17:15.089 --> 00:17:20.410
walk out of the ring and go cry and pout? tantrum

00:17:20.410 --> 00:17:23.890
tantrum yeah tantrum in the fucking dressing

00:17:23.890 --> 00:17:28.190
room come on man i don't know why they stopped

00:17:28.190 --> 00:17:31.089
farmer he was trying to walk away and they stopped

00:17:31.089 --> 00:17:33.309
him and then he's like i don't want to do this

00:17:33.309 --> 00:17:38.210
and they're like and then they're like oh but

00:17:38.210 --> 00:17:42.160
you know you can't be mad at boxing Uh, no, I

00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:45.880
can be bad at correction. I am mad at boxing.

00:17:46.099 --> 00:17:50.640
I am not mad at like Williams of Peta. It's not

00:17:50.640 --> 00:17:55.079
the same shit that we say. Like I say anyway,

00:17:55.140 --> 00:17:59.779
with robberies is like, um, just, just an example.

00:18:00.160 --> 00:18:04.539
Um, in over on the MMA side, there's this guy

00:18:04.539 --> 00:18:09.059
named, uh, Bautista who ended up winning a very.

00:18:09.940 --> 00:18:16.440
obviously shitty decision and so like i later

00:18:16.440 --> 00:18:19.319
on we're talking about like who's he gonna fight

00:18:19.319 --> 00:18:22.440
next what are his next options and then we're

00:18:22.440 --> 00:18:26.740
i i'm always thinking of what how can i get his

00:18:26.740 --> 00:18:30.160
ass beat the most Because he needs to fucking

00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:34.779
pay for the shitty decision that had nothing

00:18:34.779 --> 00:18:37.740
to do with him. Not at all his fault. He did

00:18:37.740 --> 00:18:41.180
not make the judges do anything. But he was the

00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:46.880
beneficiary. So, he has to suffer for it. Which

00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:50.500
is also shitty. It is. 90 % of the time, the

00:18:50.500 --> 00:18:53.339
sponsors have done absolutely nothing. It's not

00:18:53.339 --> 00:18:57.420
Zepeda's fault. It's not over on the MMA guy,

00:18:57.539 --> 00:19:00.140
Bautista. It's not his fault. He didn't make

00:19:00.140 --> 00:19:04.900
the judges do anything. But. But he's the one

00:19:04.900 --> 00:19:06.940
that has to pay for it because he's the one that

00:19:06.940 --> 00:19:09.519
benefited from it. And he's the one that's going

00:19:09.519 --> 00:19:13.160
to be in the ring. Right. Yeah. It's unfortunate.

00:19:13.339 --> 00:19:15.700
Maybe we should put the judges that gave him

00:19:15.700 --> 00:19:19.259
that shitty decision into the ring or the cage

00:19:19.259 --> 00:19:22.640
or whatever. Like, okay, you want to score it?

00:19:23.210 --> 00:19:26.529
You want to score it 8 -4 for Zepeda? How about

00:19:26.529 --> 00:19:29.630
Tevin Farmer? He's about to give you an 8 -4.

00:19:30.009 --> 00:19:33.769
How about that? Yeah, he gets 8 -4 minutes, depending

00:19:33.769 --> 00:19:37.210
how long you live. Yeah, 8 -4 minutes, and that's

00:19:37.210 --> 00:19:39.230
what he's going to get on you. And then we'll

00:19:39.230 --> 00:19:44.190
see how you score the next one. If you score

00:19:44.190 --> 00:19:48.529
the next one. I don't know. I don't know how

00:19:48.529 --> 00:19:53.420
you fix it. You can't, but... I do feel bad for

00:19:53.420 --> 00:19:56.359
Farmer. I do too. Anybody who was talking shit

00:19:56.359 --> 00:20:00.539
about him, oh, well, everybody who loses calls

00:20:00.539 --> 00:20:03.000
a robbery or whatever they were saying online.

00:20:03.339 --> 00:20:06.960
I'm just like, man, give the man his hour to

00:20:06.960 --> 00:20:09.000
get his shit together for the post -fight interview.

00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:17.579
And he was so gracious in his little defeat interview.

00:20:18.559 --> 00:20:24.039
Yeah. He was super gracious, very... uh congratulatory

00:20:24.039 --> 00:20:28.240
to zapata like like okay if the judges gave it

00:20:28.240 --> 00:20:30.680
to you the judges gave it to you congratulations

00:20:30.680 --> 00:20:35.019
you're like hell of a fighter fucking trademark

00:20:35.019 --> 00:20:38.299
tip my hat off to him that type of stuff but

00:20:38.299 --> 00:20:42.480
and and then he went off on boxing as an institution

00:20:42.480 --> 00:20:47.480
and that that's the type of shit like That's

00:20:47.480 --> 00:20:49.259
the stuff that a lot of people don't, like, I

00:20:49.259 --> 00:20:51.220
don't know. Do they not want to hear it? Are

00:20:51.220 --> 00:20:53.279
they not ready to hear it? What do you think?

00:20:54.619 --> 00:20:57.400
It's just politics, isn't it? Right. Yeah, you're

00:20:57.400 --> 00:20:59.640
right. It's politics. And anybody who agrees

00:20:59.640 --> 00:21:01.799
with him is going to agree with him. And anybody

00:21:01.799 --> 00:21:03.960
who doesn't agree with him is just going to be,

00:21:04.079 --> 00:21:06.819
oh, he's just a sore loser. Honestly, this fight,

00:21:06.900 --> 00:21:10.259
I don't think Farmer deserved a win. Yeah, yeah.

00:21:10.460 --> 00:21:13.420
The first fight, I scored for him. But this fight,

00:21:13.559 --> 00:21:19.079
he got hurt. or whatever, and he just had to

00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:21.980
take some rounds off in the beginning slash middle.

00:21:22.220 --> 00:21:27.400
And him being hurt and plus taking the rounds

00:21:27.400 --> 00:21:30.720
off in the immediate aftermath, that was the

00:21:30.720 --> 00:21:35.539
deciding factor the same way the knockdown was

00:21:35.539 --> 00:21:38.440
in the first one, right? Yeah, well, and I do

00:21:38.440 --> 00:21:41.140
think he got another knockdown that they call

00:21:41.140 --> 00:21:48.490
the slam. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I can see why

00:21:48.490 --> 00:21:52.789
he's... I can see why he's really upset. Yeah.

00:21:53.029 --> 00:21:57.910
Well, and... Farmer really has not gotten any

00:21:57.910 --> 00:22:01.990
of his just dues for these two Zepeda fights.

00:22:02.869 --> 00:22:05.569
Everybody's like, man, Zepeda fucking sucks.

00:22:05.970 --> 00:22:09.289
Like, he's been exposed. He's terrible because

00:22:09.289 --> 00:22:11.849
Farmer dropped him. And I'm like, Farmer's good,

00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:17.079
guys. Right! I don't understand the farmer hate.

00:22:17.319 --> 00:22:21.440
Do you not fucking remember how many years ago

00:22:21.440 --> 00:22:24.359
was it now that people were talking about Tevin

00:22:24.359 --> 00:22:28.440
Farmer is the one to beat Tank? That's what people

00:22:28.440 --> 00:22:32.039
were talking about. Honestly, I think he could

00:22:32.039 --> 00:22:36.599
still hurt Tank. Farmer's chin is not going to

00:22:36.599 --> 00:22:39.900
hold up. He will lose, but he could make Tank

00:22:39.900 --> 00:22:44.759
look bad. If Roach can do what he did. Farmer's

00:22:44.759 --> 00:22:51.059
more guts. Yeah. Farmer could have similar levels

00:22:51.059 --> 00:22:54.019
of success. I don't think he beats him the same

00:22:54.019 --> 00:22:58.920
way that Roach did, which Roach did beat Gervonta

00:22:58.920 --> 00:23:05.319
Davis. Make no mistake about that. If Roach can

00:23:05.319 --> 00:23:09.059
do that, win a close decision, I don't see, I

00:23:09.059 --> 00:23:15.150
think Tank or Farmer could have Tank. giving

00:23:15.150 --> 00:23:17.190
him a lot of fits, giving him a lot of trouble.

00:23:18.049 --> 00:23:20.869
I think Farmer would lay hands on Tank. We would

00:23:20.869 --> 00:23:24.569
see if Tank actually has a chin. Not that Farmer

00:23:24.569 --> 00:23:26.950
hits that hard. That's one thing he is lacking.

00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:32.710
He is not a power puncher, but we would see if

00:23:32.710 --> 00:23:35.329
Tank can take a punch or if he's just going to

00:23:35.329 --> 00:23:38.490
take another knee that somehow doesn't get fucking

00:23:38.490 --> 00:23:42.670
counted. He's not a knockdown. It's not a knockdown.

00:23:42.690 --> 00:23:47.529
It's not a submission. I don't even know what

00:23:47.529 --> 00:23:51.349
you call them. It's just the fight continues

00:23:51.349 --> 00:24:00.549
as is. Fucking bullshit. For anybody who might

00:24:00.549 --> 00:24:05.549
be thinking, because Farmer, his last three decisions

00:24:05.549 --> 00:24:10.109
have been on the... He's gotten the short end

00:24:10.109 --> 00:24:15.160
of the stick. The last three times. Moritaya,

00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:19.019
super close. Arguable that he won. I don't think

00:24:19.019 --> 00:24:25.920
he did. Zepeda won. He won. Super close. Arguable

00:24:25.920 --> 00:24:30.339
that he won. I think he won. And then Zepeda

00:24:30.339 --> 00:24:35.000
2, super close. I think Zepeda won. In my first

00:24:35.000 --> 00:24:38.660
watch, I thought Farmer did enough, but... Looking

00:24:38.660 --> 00:24:42.119
back on it, like, eh, maybe not. Still. Yeah,

00:24:42.180 --> 00:24:44.420
I have no problem with Cepeda winning that second

00:24:44.420 --> 00:24:49.420
fight. Right. Still super close. This was the

00:24:49.420 --> 00:24:54.359
guy when Matchroom USA first started, which it

00:24:54.359 --> 00:24:57.759
doesn't exist anymore. But Matchroom USA, Tevin

00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.720
Farmer was the guy that they were talking about.

00:24:59.960 --> 00:25:05.319
This is the antidote to Tank. Yeah. And I don't

00:25:05.319 --> 00:25:09.230
think they're wrong. So don't, if you're thinking

00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:13.470
like, ah, Tevin Farmer's garbage, whatever, he's

00:25:13.470 --> 00:25:17.349
washed, whatever the fuck. I don't think so.

00:25:18.150 --> 00:25:21.750
Yeah, I don't think he's done. Not at all. Not

00:25:21.750 --> 00:25:24.809
at all. And his, whatever neurological issues

00:25:24.809 --> 00:25:28.609
that we were worried he might have had, not that

00:25:28.609 --> 00:25:32.549
big of a deal. Apparently. Yeah. It's not the

00:25:32.549 --> 00:25:39.380
worst. There are, like, Luis Lopez Venado recently

00:25:39.380 --> 00:25:42.759
had a fight, and that was... Yeah, I couldn't

00:25:42.759 --> 00:25:45.700
even find that to watch. It was on YouTube Live,

00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:51.680
but it finished super quick. It's like the guy

00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:54.539
didn't even give any opposition. He was there

00:25:54.539 --> 00:26:00.819
to get paid, and that was about it. Right. But

00:26:00.819 --> 00:26:04.819
that guy, Luis Lopez, that would be someone I'm

00:26:04.819 --> 00:26:10.140
like, ugh. Let's maybe rethink our career choices

00:26:10.140 --> 00:26:15.599
here. That's a good segue to if we skip one.

00:26:15.980 --> 00:26:22.519
All right. So I was watching interviews for Hergovich

00:26:22.519 --> 00:26:27.019
and Joyce. And Hergovich had the funniest line.

00:26:28.119 --> 00:26:31.079
Maybe it's his accent. Maybe it's the delivery.

00:26:31.380 --> 00:26:35.119
But they're like, what? do you have for Joe Joyce?

00:26:35.140 --> 00:26:40.180
And he's like, punches are not vitamins. Do not

00:26:40.180 --> 00:26:43.220
stay in boxing too long. And I was like, yes.

00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:47.960
This is my new catchphrase. Punches are not vitamins.

00:26:50.819 --> 00:26:57.039
It's a good one. Joe Joyce has, like, the juggernaut

00:26:57.039 --> 00:27:04.519
moniker comes from his just taking punches that's

00:27:04.519 --> 00:27:08.480
yeah and he walks through him his non -defense

00:27:08.480 --> 00:27:13.880
like joy joyce is there to be hit he gets hit

00:27:13.880 --> 00:27:18.460
a lot right and i i really like joe joyce i really

00:27:18.460 --> 00:27:22.079
hope he does something here but then i don't

00:27:22.079 --> 00:27:26.380
know what that leads to either so hope uh yeah

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:31.839
this is their both of their their bids to stay

00:27:31.839 --> 00:27:36.720
at the world level. Um, yeah, I don't know. I

00:27:36.720 --> 00:27:40.000
feel like Herkovich would do well at the Europe,

00:27:40.039 --> 00:27:43.220
like the European, the continental kind of level.

00:27:44.039 --> 00:27:47.660
And Joe Joyce, probably the same. Like I, it's

00:27:47.660 --> 00:27:49.579
like they're fighting for a position that neither

00:27:49.579 --> 00:27:52.500
of them really deserve, or I don't know about

00:27:52.500 --> 00:27:55.799
maybe deserves not the right word, but that neither

00:27:55.799 --> 00:27:58.519
of them really rate. They don't, they don't have.

00:27:59.230 --> 00:28:04.450
the appropriate merit if that's the better way

00:28:04.450 --> 00:28:07.650
to put it but I mean like if fucking Derek Chisora

00:28:07.650 --> 00:28:12.970
is getting another belt getting another chance

00:28:12.970 --> 00:28:18.029
at a belt maybe Joe Joyce can too it's one of

00:28:18.029 --> 00:28:20.890
the with the current crop like the age of the

00:28:20.890 --> 00:28:24.690
current crop Derek Chisora is one of the few

00:28:24.690 --> 00:28:30.970
that I could call unk yeah Like, dude, it's about

00:28:30.970 --> 00:28:33.950
time. Like, what the fuck are you thinking about?

00:28:34.170 --> 00:28:37.369
I know you think you can with this next one.

00:28:37.509 --> 00:28:40.490
Does he, though? I don't think he does. I think

00:28:40.490 --> 00:28:44.210
Derek Chisora is cashing out. He had his fucking

00:28:44.210 --> 00:28:46.589
retirement speech all written out and planned.

00:28:47.029 --> 00:28:48.349
He did it with Otto Wally? Yeah, and then he

00:28:48.349 --> 00:28:52.579
won the fight. Yeah. I think it was expecting

00:28:52.579 --> 00:28:56.400
to win, to be honest with you. But not get a

00:28:56.400 --> 00:29:00.460
fucking mandatory shot at the IBF world title.

00:29:00.940 --> 00:29:04.000
Well, UK is one of the ones that, like, they

00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:09.200
play heavily into the IBF because rankings matter

00:29:09.200 --> 00:29:12.859
over there. And as long as you're not one or

00:29:12.859 --> 00:29:18.680
two, you can grease your way into any slot that

00:29:18.680 --> 00:29:21.779
you want, really. And I think that's what's happening

00:29:21.779 --> 00:29:25.480
with Joe Joyce. Or not Joe Joyce, with Derek

00:29:25.480 --> 00:29:32.700
Chisora and Daniel Dubois. Is Chisora not ranked

00:29:32.700 --> 00:29:36.140
number one? I think he's ranked number one by

00:29:36.140 --> 00:29:40.640
the IBF. If he is, I'm going to have to retract

00:29:40.640 --> 00:29:47.700
everything that I just said. Let me... What do

00:29:47.700 --> 00:29:51.099
we got here? IBF. rankings i guess is what i

00:29:51.099 --> 00:29:56.640
need to type in i am so tired hold on i am i'm

00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:01.259
a little bit um i have them saved just because

00:30:01.259 --> 00:30:07.259
it's a good idea but okay so number one is not

00:30:07.259 --> 00:30:11.440
rated but derek chizora is the top rated heavyweight

00:30:11.440 --> 00:30:16.039
by the idf he is number one or number two these

00:30:16.039 --> 00:30:21.059
are the ones that get enforced Why are they listing

00:30:21.059 --> 00:30:27.940
him as Zimbabwe? Must be where his heritage?

00:30:29.539 --> 00:30:35.259
I thought Chisora was born in the UK. I thought

00:30:35.259 --> 00:30:39.180
he was British, but Dillian White is Jamaican.

00:30:40.460 --> 00:30:45.859
That's how they label him, is Jamaican. Oh, no,

00:30:46.019 --> 00:30:48.980
Chizora was born in Zimbabwe, according to BoxRec.

00:30:49.299 --> 00:30:52.240
Sounds British enough for me. Like, anytime I

00:30:52.240 --> 00:30:57.140
hear him speak, he sounds British as shit. Yeah,

00:30:57.160 --> 00:31:00.440
I just didn't realize. I don't either. I guess

00:31:00.440 --> 00:31:05.079
that's... I guess we gotta cheer for Chizora

00:31:05.079 --> 00:31:06.519
now. Man, I can't even... I could barely tell

00:31:06.519 --> 00:31:07.559
the difference... I always cheer for Chizora.

00:31:07.940 --> 00:31:09.859
I could barely tell the difference between, like,

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:16.960
a fucking Manchester or Liverpool... or blackpool

00:31:16.960 --> 00:31:19.779
or whatever different parts of the uk i can barely

00:31:19.779 --> 00:31:21.920
tell the difference between them so if there's

00:31:21.920 --> 00:31:28.680
a zimbabwe born british person i'm not sorry

00:31:28.680 --> 00:31:30.420
that i didn't recognize if he had a different

00:31:30.420 --> 00:31:34.000
accent because he sounds british to me apparently

00:31:34.000 --> 00:31:40.480
he was in zimbabwe all through school well Chisora

00:31:40.480 --> 00:31:44.619
and his family moved to the UK in 1999 when he

00:31:44.619 --> 00:31:54.059
was 16. 16? Yeah. Well, you all sound the same

00:31:54.059 --> 00:31:55.599
to me, British people. His family must have had

00:31:55.599 --> 00:31:59.660
relative money. They sent him to an all -boys

00:31:59.660 --> 00:32:02.059
boarding school. Yeah, that sounds like they

00:32:02.059 --> 00:32:07.700
would have money. I'm going to chalk that up

00:32:07.700 --> 00:32:13.380
to... To save face for myself, I'm going to chalk

00:32:13.380 --> 00:32:17.220
that up to I don't hear differences in accents.

00:32:17.420 --> 00:32:23.200
I just hear British United Kingdom citizens speaking.

00:32:24.420 --> 00:32:27.660
Yeah, he's not American. That's all I can know.

00:32:29.039 --> 00:32:34.960
Yeah, well, I'm learning the different accents

00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.579
of like the Canadian accents. I'm getting better.

00:32:39.349 --> 00:32:43.130
Yeah. I can pick out parts of Canada pretty good.

00:32:43.329 --> 00:32:45.410
Of course. I can pick out parts of the U .S.

00:32:45.829 --> 00:32:52.210
easily, but it's... I'm going to just bolster

00:32:52.210 --> 00:32:55.990
myself, gas myself up a little bit. I don't look

00:32:55.990 --> 00:32:59.750
at you guys. I don't hear your accents and think,

00:32:59.849 --> 00:33:02.950
that's this person or that region or that region.

00:33:03.170 --> 00:33:07.569
I just hear my British friends, my United Kingdom

00:33:07.569 --> 00:33:12.349
friends. speaking. That's all I hear. I still

00:33:12.349 --> 00:33:14.410
have trouble with the difference between England

00:33:14.410 --> 00:33:17.069
and Britain. Still haven't quite nailed that

00:33:17.069 --> 00:33:22.289
down. I'm never sure which one to use. I think

00:33:22.289 --> 00:33:25.130
those are the same. They're not. There is a difference,

00:33:25.210 --> 00:33:28.289
but I can't remember what it is. Britain includes

00:33:28.289 --> 00:33:33.230
Wales or something? It's the British Isles. So,

00:33:33.230 --> 00:33:37.279
like, yeah. Britain includes Wales because it's

00:33:37.279 --> 00:33:42.660
on the same island. I think. Okay, but England

00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:45.799
does not. England is a part of it. England is

00:33:45.799 --> 00:33:52.359
the smallest. It's a part of the isle. But not

00:33:52.359 --> 00:33:56.259
the full island. And then the UK includes Scotland?

00:33:56.559 --> 00:34:04.009
Yes, and Northern Ireland. Yeah. I just remember

00:34:04.009 --> 00:34:07.369
this because I saw a video recently. It's this

00:34:07.369 --> 00:34:14.010
guy who does like flag and nation trivia. And

00:34:14.010 --> 00:34:16.309
it's like, oh, what are the four nations of the

00:34:16.309 --> 00:34:21.889
United Kingdom? It is. I just in my mind, I said

00:34:21.889 --> 00:34:27.849
Ireland, England, Scotland and Wales. And then

00:34:27.849 --> 00:34:33.159
the response. His response was wrong. It's Northern

00:34:33.159 --> 00:34:39.659
Ireland. I mean, it is. It is, yes. But also,

00:34:39.760 --> 00:34:44.679
suck my balls. Like, are you... My favorite history

00:34:44.679 --> 00:34:49.500
flag trivia. Do you know why Northern Ireland

00:34:49.500 --> 00:34:55.539
has the red hand on their flag? No. Okay, so

00:34:55.539 --> 00:34:58.320
I can't remember his name. But there were two

00:34:58.320 --> 00:35:04.269
kings. or noblemen of some sort that were racing

00:35:04.269 --> 00:35:09.949
and the first person to touch the land got to

00:35:09.949 --> 00:35:13.269
claim it and he cut off his fucking hand and

00:35:13.269 --> 00:35:16.349
threw it so he touched it first so it's the red

00:35:16.349 --> 00:35:19.889
hand of ulster because he cut off his hand and

00:35:19.889 --> 00:35:22.329
just hopped it and he's like fucking touched

00:35:22.329 --> 00:35:30.210
it it's mine bitches hilarious And we had the

00:35:30.210 --> 00:35:35.230
troubles because of that. Yeah. But yeah, that's

00:35:35.230 --> 00:35:42.469
why it's got a red band. Jesus. The only flag

00:35:42.469 --> 00:35:46.269
trivia I really know. I don't know any flag trivia.

00:35:46.369 --> 00:35:50.550
I just recognize what they're attached to. But

00:35:50.550 --> 00:35:55.710
let's just fucking carry on. Yeah. Yeah. Sorry.

00:35:56.199 --> 00:36:03.579
No, no, no worries. Wilder versus Ngannou. Yeah.

00:36:04.000 --> 00:36:09.000
It's in the works. Is it really? Yeah. If Wilder

00:36:09.000 --> 00:36:13.800
gets past his next fight, which, given who it

00:36:13.800 --> 00:36:19.119
is, chances are likely that he will. And then

00:36:19.119 --> 00:36:23.980
Wilder versus Ngannou. Huh. I don't know, man.

00:36:24.099 --> 00:36:27.369
Wilder looks... so shit last time out. Ngannou

00:36:27.369 --> 00:36:33.630
might tag him. It's worrisome. I don't feel as

00:36:33.630 --> 00:36:38.030
confident as I normally would about Wilder's

00:36:38.030 --> 00:36:42.909
chances as I usually would. Ngannou made Fury

00:36:42.909 --> 00:36:47.690
look hittable, and Wilder has way less defense.

00:36:48.510 --> 00:36:51.710
And he doesn't have the killer instinct anymore,

00:36:51.929 --> 00:36:56.079
apparently. opened his third eye and connected

00:36:56.079 --> 00:36:59.139
with the gods or whatever so he i don't know

00:36:59.139 --> 00:37:04.800
man the bronze bomber is gone now we got the

00:37:04.800 --> 00:37:08.880
we have deontay wilder that's what we have now

00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.739
it it's just that's what we have left is some

00:37:13.739 --> 00:37:16.880
guy from mobile alabama the the professional

00:37:16.880 --> 00:37:21.150
fighter not The bronze bomber who was like the

00:37:21.150 --> 00:37:25.650
professional fucking in -ring killer. Yeah. No.

00:37:25.909 --> 00:37:28.710
That's what we have left. You can't yell bomb

00:37:28.710 --> 00:37:32.630
squad anymore. It's just, it's done. I don't

00:37:32.630 --> 00:37:37.329
think so. As much as I want to. Because. That's

00:37:37.329 --> 00:37:41.190
funny shit. He was our, our heavyweight hope

00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:45.769
here over in the U .S. That, man, I. Oh, God.

00:37:45.769 --> 00:37:48.559
The great American hope. He was the great American

00:37:48.559 --> 00:37:54.019
hope. I cannot express in words how much I believed

00:37:54.019 --> 00:37:58.659
in him and how he was going to be the one. He

00:37:58.659 --> 00:38:02.800
is the one. He is the one. He is going to take

00:38:02.800 --> 00:38:06.539
American heavyweight boxing back into its glory

00:38:06.539 --> 00:38:13.840
days. I believed it. I cannot. And for a while,

00:38:13.920 --> 00:38:18.329
he did. To be honest, he did. And he did, but

00:38:18.329 --> 00:38:22.250
it's like, man. I talked my boyfriend at the

00:38:22.250 --> 00:38:24.789
time into going out to a bar with me to watch

00:38:24.789 --> 00:38:28.369
Wilder Fury 2. And I was like, there's no fucking

00:38:28.369 --> 00:38:30.929
way Wilder wins this one. I was like, Fury's

00:38:30.929 --> 00:38:35.010
going to win, whatever. But we got to the bar

00:38:35.010 --> 00:38:38.690
and it was so quiet in there. There was like

00:38:38.690 --> 00:38:41.349
no atmosphere at all. People were there to watch.

00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:43.869
Like you paid a cover to come in and watch the

00:38:43.869 --> 00:38:46.460
pay -per -view. It's the only reason anyone was

00:38:46.460 --> 00:38:49.099
there, and it was fucking dead silent before

00:38:49.099 --> 00:38:55.059
the fight started. And me and my ex, we fed off

00:38:55.059 --> 00:38:57.780
each other really in sometimes a fun way, sometimes

00:38:57.780 --> 00:39:00.239
not so fun. And I walked in, and I was like,

00:39:00.260 --> 00:39:02.440
no, we just got to yell bomb squad, and everybody

00:39:02.440 --> 00:39:05.679
is going to, like, hate us. He's like, but you

00:39:05.679 --> 00:39:07.940
said he's going to lose. I'm like, fuck it. And

00:39:07.940 --> 00:39:12.130
we walked in. And so you paid your cover, you

00:39:12.130 --> 00:39:14.070
walked down a small hallway, and you went in

00:39:14.070 --> 00:39:17.050
to where they had the fight playing. And there

00:39:17.050 --> 00:39:19.269
was just like regular bar bullshit on the other

00:39:19.269 --> 00:39:21.670
side. And as we walked through that second door,

00:39:21.730 --> 00:39:25.369
we both just yelled bomb squad. And people turned

00:39:25.369 --> 00:39:28.949
and started yelling at us, telling us why we

00:39:28.949 --> 00:39:32.889
were wrong. And I was like, yes. Oh, man. I knew

00:39:32.889 --> 00:39:35.949
we were wrong, but you just got to stir the pot

00:39:35.949 --> 00:39:40.340
sometimes. I took it so far that I placed like

00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:42.940
$40 worth of bets with people and lost all my

00:39:42.940 --> 00:39:47.639
money. But fuck it. Strictly for vibes. As long

00:39:47.639 --> 00:39:51.400
as I throw a smoke bomb into the hornet's nest,

00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:58.179
it'll be fun. Worth it. It's $40. I got guys

00:39:58.179 --> 00:40:00.159
yelling at us enough that they just bought us

00:40:00.159 --> 00:40:02.679
pitchers of beer. I'm pretty sure beer to...

00:40:03.190 --> 00:40:06.909
That's lost ratio. I came out even. Yeah, if

00:40:06.909 --> 00:40:09.289
people are buying you drinks for the sake of

00:40:09.289 --> 00:40:15.130
you, just because you are wrong, right? Very

00:40:15.130 --> 00:40:19.849
Canadian thing to do. I would take it. I would

00:40:19.849 --> 00:40:25.469
take the same thing. If I'm walking into a bar

00:40:25.469 --> 00:40:28.530
and I'm yelling bomb squad and everybody's looking

00:40:28.530 --> 00:40:32.639
at me like, you're a moron. Like, okay, well,

00:40:32.780 --> 00:40:39.679
let's just see who's favorable or friendly anyway.

00:40:40.460 --> 00:40:45.960
And we'll just be chatting and buying drinks

00:40:45.960 --> 00:40:49.820
for each other. Yeah, I was betting five bucks

00:40:49.820 --> 00:40:53.139
against people, however many times that is, like

00:40:53.139 --> 00:40:55.440
eight times. And they all just bought drinks.

00:40:55.480 --> 00:40:59.400
Yeah, of course. Fuck yeah. Of course. I would

00:40:59.400 --> 00:41:03.119
be. antagonizing people into buying me drinks

00:41:03.119 --> 00:41:07.780
all the time as well. What's that? Bomb squad.

00:41:08.300 --> 00:41:12.780
Oh, what's that? Your mother bomb squad is what

00:41:12.780 --> 00:41:17.159
I mean. I don't know how much that's going to

00:41:17.159 --> 00:41:19.920
antagonize anybody, but that's what we're doing.

00:41:20.460 --> 00:41:24.679
Cause I think it only works if you, if it might

00:41:24.679 --> 00:41:26.840
be because I'm a girl, I hate to play that card,

00:41:26.940 --> 00:41:29.219
but it might be because I'm a girl. It might.

00:41:29.949 --> 00:41:33.110
Like, oh, isn't she cute? She watches boxing.

00:41:33.510 --> 00:41:37.630
Oh, she thinks she knows boxing. She thinks she

00:41:37.630 --> 00:41:41.309
knows boxing. Oh, you know him because he's a

00:41:41.309 --> 00:41:44.650
knockout guy. That's the only reason that you

00:41:44.650 --> 00:41:48.349
care about him. 100%. And they're like, oh, well,

00:41:48.489 --> 00:41:51.210
who are your five favorite boxers? And you know

00:41:51.210 --> 00:41:53.710
me. They were all fucking tiny little men. And

00:41:53.710 --> 00:41:55.590
the guys are sitting there on their phones like.

00:41:56.230 --> 00:41:59.289
Oh, yeah, this guy, he fights at 120. Who the

00:41:59.289 --> 00:42:03.250
fuck has heard of this man? Fenito Lopez, Salvador

00:42:03.250 --> 00:42:08.030
Sanchez. Do you know who Roman Gonzalez is? Have

00:42:08.030 --> 00:42:10.769
you heard of that name? Like, it's that type

00:42:10.769 --> 00:42:14.590
of, like... Yeah, yeah. Well, it was... When

00:42:14.590 --> 00:42:18.550
was that? That would have been 2019, I think.

00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:24.460
2020 before COVID hit, maybe. Anyways, I listed,

00:42:26.199 --> 00:42:28.900
in a way, as one of my favorites. And somebody

00:42:28.900 --> 00:42:31.619
legit said, nobody watches the fucking victim

00:42:31.619 --> 00:42:38.159
weights. What are you doing? Oh, man. So then

00:42:38.159 --> 00:42:42.639
I listed all my favorite fighters under 127 pounds.

00:42:43.300 --> 00:42:51.019
All the victim weights. Yeah. Which, for the

00:42:51.019 --> 00:42:55.679
person listening, victim weights came up. When

00:42:55.679 --> 00:43:00.179
was that? Was that on the previous B -Sides?

00:43:00.519 --> 00:43:02.739
That might have been B -Sides. I think it was

00:43:02.739 --> 00:43:05.159
B -Sides. That was the previous time that came

00:43:05.159 --> 00:43:09.760
up. Nobody watches the victim weights. Like,

00:43:09.780 --> 00:43:13.139
I'm going to make you a victim weight. Yeah.

00:43:13.239 --> 00:43:15.980
I don't know if you realize how, like, big I

00:43:15.980 --> 00:43:23.880
actually am. Anyways. I love shutting up dickheads

00:43:23.880 --> 00:43:28.300
in bars. It's great. I kind of miss yelling at

00:43:28.300 --> 00:43:31.500
people living in Japan. I miss yelling at strangers.

00:43:32.320 --> 00:43:35.039
I bet you can only do that in the expat bars.

00:43:36.400 --> 00:43:39.119
Nah, you can't even do it there. Really? Well,

00:43:39.539 --> 00:43:42.920
the bartenders don't really understand the difference

00:43:42.920 --> 00:43:45.599
between friendly arguments and arguments. Oh,

00:43:45.860 --> 00:43:48.639
I see. At least in Chiba City. Maybe in Tokyo

00:43:48.639 --> 00:43:52.239
I could get away with it. But where I live, it's

00:43:52.239 --> 00:43:55.019
a little smaller. And if you speak English loud

00:43:55.019 --> 00:43:58.599
and it's not like really friendly, obviously

00:43:58.599 --> 00:44:02.820
really friendly, you get told to leave. Oh, that's

00:44:02.820 --> 00:44:07.699
lame. Yeah. I get told to leave sometimes just

00:44:07.699 --> 00:44:11.739
because I speak English. Japan still does that

00:44:11.739 --> 00:44:20.000
if you're outside the areas. Yeah, yeah. I don't

00:44:20.000 --> 00:44:23.199
know. Speaking of Japan, we skipped the announcement.

00:44:23.619 --> 00:44:29.579
We did. Inoue versus Nakatani in 2026. Yeah,

00:44:29.599 --> 00:44:33.199
they said it at the Boxing Awards night here

00:44:33.199 --> 00:44:38.599
in Japan. This is making my balls tickle. Tokyo

00:44:38.599 --> 00:44:43.460
Dome. I might legitimately extend my contract

00:44:43.460 --> 00:44:48.159
just so I'm still in the country. I need it to

00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:52.519
be first half of 2026. I am very much interested

00:44:52.519 --> 00:44:57.559
in traveling for this. It would be worth it,

00:44:57.579 --> 00:45:04.750
I think. Yes. Just this headline is enough. But

00:45:04.750 --> 00:45:07.469
it's going to be a stacked card. Of course. Of

00:45:07.469 --> 00:45:09.469
course. They will stack the fuck out of that

00:45:09.469 --> 00:45:13.829
card. Because fuck you. Come to Japan for it.

00:45:14.309 --> 00:45:17.829
You want to watch it? Come to Japan. We got all

00:45:17.829 --> 00:45:20.510
types of shit that's going to entice you. Yeah,

00:45:20.570 --> 00:45:22.909
of course. Of course they're going to stack it.

00:45:23.030 --> 00:45:27.769
Like, oh, God. I really hope it's in the first

00:45:27.769 --> 00:45:30.090
half. The only thing I'm a little worried about

00:45:30.090 --> 00:45:32.570
is they're going to put it in cherry blossom

00:45:32.570 --> 00:45:36.320
season. And I don't know why that bothers me,

00:45:36.400 --> 00:45:40.440
but I do not want to have to deal with allergies.

00:45:41.480 --> 00:45:45.960
Well, and just Tokyo trains in cherry blossom

00:45:45.960 --> 00:45:49.860
season. Right, a lot of travelers. And not just

00:45:49.860 --> 00:45:54.340
foreigners. Like, Japanese people legit travel

00:45:54.340 --> 00:45:57.559
to Tokyo to see the cherry blossoms. Yeah, I

00:45:57.559 --> 00:46:01.579
mean exactly that. It's just people straight

00:46:01.579 --> 00:46:05.219
up traveling. To go to the Cherry Blossoms. Yeah.

00:46:05.539 --> 00:46:11.239
Yeah. Anyways, I am so stoked. That's really,

00:46:11.360 --> 00:46:16.760
that's, even, I have so many questions. Like,

00:46:16.760 --> 00:46:22.559
how are we guaranteeing that? What? Yeah, like,

00:46:22.619 --> 00:46:24.840
it's boxing. It might fall apart. Exactly. But

00:46:24.840 --> 00:46:28.119
I do, I do feel like the Japanese guys don't

00:46:28.119 --> 00:46:30.380
really make these announcements until it's relatively

00:46:30.380 --> 00:46:33.780
solid. Right. Right. They're not just yelling

00:46:33.780 --> 00:46:38.380
and calling people out. Like, Inoue and Nakatani

00:46:38.380 --> 00:46:41.699
have never even hinted that they were actually

00:46:41.699 --> 00:46:47.179
going to fight soon. Right. So there's no hints.

00:46:47.460 --> 00:46:54.380
There would be guarantees. Like, you have to

00:46:54.380 --> 00:47:00.610
win your fights up to this point. I don't think

00:47:00.610 --> 00:47:04.510
either of them said anything like that. I legitimately

00:47:04.510 --> 00:47:08.230
think they both were just like, yeah, we're going

00:47:08.230 --> 00:47:11.269
to fight next year. We both have fights lined

00:47:11.269 --> 00:47:16.829
up, but we're fighting next year. That's the

00:47:16.829 --> 00:47:19.090
part that I was worried about. Like, what happens

00:47:19.090 --> 00:47:26.869
if one of them loses? I'm not saying that they

00:47:26.869 --> 00:47:30.769
would. Would it matter, though? Would it matter

00:47:30.769 --> 00:47:40.110
to anyone if either of them had a loss? No. I

00:47:40.110 --> 00:47:42.769
wouldn't give a shit. I wouldn't give a shit.

00:47:42.969 --> 00:47:46.190
As long as it's these two guys. I don't give

00:47:46.190 --> 00:47:50.389
a shit. I don't give a shit. Nakatani could get

00:47:50.389 --> 00:47:54.030
stopped. Inoue could get stopped. I don't care.

00:47:54.449 --> 00:47:57.369
I don't care. I want to see Inoue and Nakatani

00:47:57.369 --> 00:48:01.360
fight. What's the wait? Did they tell what the

00:48:01.360 --> 00:48:04.400
weight is? Nakatani would come up, is my understanding.

00:48:04.880 --> 00:48:11.679
Of course. What you'd expect. I actually found

00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:13.599
an English article. I don't have to translate

00:48:13.599 --> 00:48:24.539
here. Okay, so the JBC annual awards gala where

00:48:24.539 --> 00:48:27.159
all of my boys were there looking super fucking

00:48:27.159 --> 00:48:31.909
dapper. punch burgers pictures are amazing everything

00:48:31.909 --> 00:48:36.690
about it i just love but uh and they they actually

00:48:36.690 --> 00:48:42.389
um had the the lady with the pink hair her real

00:48:42.389 --> 00:48:44.829
name is not mimi but that's what she calls herself

00:48:44.829 --> 00:48:52.510
mizuki mizuki yeah yeah that i i have never not

00:48:52.510 --> 00:48:54.489
that i've watched it that many times but i've

00:48:54.489 --> 00:48:57.769
never seen any women at the the japanese boxing

00:48:57.769 --> 00:49:00.769
commission and they they gave her an award good

00:49:00.769 --> 00:49:07.929
she she rates yeah she does 100 okay so during

00:49:07.929 --> 00:49:10.710
his acceptance speech inoue challenged nakatani

00:49:10.710 --> 00:49:15.250
to fight him in 2026 let's explode japanese boxing

00:49:15.250 --> 00:49:18.739
at the tokyo dome next year inua said Through

00:49:18.739 --> 00:49:21.159
an interpreter, or according to an interpreter,

00:49:21.699 --> 00:49:24.139
Nakatani rose from where he was sitting, went

00:49:24.139 --> 00:49:26.880
over, and shook his hand and said, let's do it.

00:49:27.579 --> 00:49:33.039
So, no details, but I really don't think they

00:49:33.039 --> 00:49:40.739
would do this on such a public stage. Even if

00:49:40.739 --> 00:49:43.420
it's just that handshake, they're not going to

00:49:43.420 --> 00:49:47.610
back out of it. I don't think so. No way. But,

00:49:47.650 --> 00:49:50.750
yeah, there's absolutely no dates or fucking

00:49:50.750 --> 00:49:55.070
anything. Yeah, well. But I assume Nakatani's

00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:57.730
going to come up. I think Inoue's going to hang

00:49:57.730 --> 00:50:04.090
around at whatever that is, 122? Yeah, 22. And

00:50:04.090 --> 00:50:08.269
wait for Nakatani to come up. That's a good fucking

00:50:08.269 --> 00:50:10.909
fight that everybody wants to see. Absolutely.

00:50:11.130 --> 00:50:19.010
Oh, I'm... For the audio audience, my boxing

00:50:19.010 --> 00:50:24.650
boner is just fucking ripping apart right now.

00:50:24.730 --> 00:50:27.550
That is exactly the kind of fight that I want

00:50:27.550 --> 00:50:31.429
to see. Fucking crazy. And they both fight soon.

00:50:31.909 --> 00:50:39.409
Right. So first half of 2026 lines up. I might

00:50:39.409 --> 00:50:43.440
still be in Tokyo. Well, in Tokyo. I might still

00:50:43.440 --> 00:50:46.199
be here. I might get to watch it live. Oh my

00:50:46.199 --> 00:50:49.460
God. I don't, I might have to. How are you going

00:50:49.460 --> 00:50:54.199
to secure tickets for the other people? Like

00:50:54.199 --> 00:50:56.019
there's going to be a lot of us that want to,

00:50:56.019 --> 00:50:58.820
that are going to want to come to that. I mean,

00:50:58.880 --> 00:51:03.099
I, they're going to put caps on how many you

00:51:03.099 --> 00:51:07.780
can buy. I assume, but I also have all the old

00:51:07.780 --> 00:51:10.179
businessmen that will buy tickets for me if I

00:51:10.179 --> 00:51:15.869
transfer the money. Yeah. I can get us tickets.

00:51:16.050 --> 00:51:19.030
I am confident about that. But Tokyo Dome is

00:51:19.030 --> 00:51:22.570
going to sell out. Oh, fuck. Of course it fucking

00:51:22.570 --> 00:51:26.389
is. Are you fucking kidding me? I would pay for

00:51:26.389 --> 00:51:31.530
a seat at the boxing bar. I would be willing

00:51:31.530 --> 00:51:36.949
to go to that level just to be in the city or

00:51:36.949 --> 00:51:41.949
in the prefecture when that goes down. Happens.

00:51:41.949 --> 00:51:46.019
Yeah. I just want to be there, dude. Speaking

00:51:46.019 --> 00:51:50.179
of the boxing bar, I have already had to reserve

00:51:50.179 --> 00:51:53.260
my seat for the next in a way fight when he fights

00:51:53.260 --> 00:51:55.840
in Vegas. It's not even that big of a fight.

00:51:55.900 --> 00:52:00.599
It's not. It isn't. But the the owner texted

00:52:00.599 --> 00:52:03.960
everyone in the group chat and he's like, reserve

00:52:03.960 --> 00:52:06.460
your seat now because it's first come first serve.

00:52:06.579 --> 00:52:10.420
He's like, it's OK if you guys cancel. he's like

00:52:10.420 --> 00:52:13.539
i'll fill it don't worry don't worry about that

00:52:13.539 --> 00:52:16.900
if you think you might want to come just tell

00:52:16.900 --> 00:52:21.500
me now and i'll save you a spot so i have a seat

00:52:21.500 --> 00:52:25.280
in tokyo but man that's gonna be at a shitty

00:52:25.280 --> 00:52:27.719
fucking time i think i'm gonna have to do the

00:52:27.719 --> 00:52:30.159
overnight thing i'm gonna have to catch the last

00:52:30.159 --> 00:52:35.820
train to tokyo and drink from midnight to probably

00:52:35.820 --> 00:52:44.400
10 a .m ish Oh, no. So terrible. Well, the fucking

00:52:44.400 --> 00:52:46.699
Saudi cards, I always fall asleep. They have

00:52:46.699 --> 00:52:51.159
to wake me up. Ah, well. Better you fall asleep

00:52:51.159 --> 00:52:55.679
there than... I don't know. I can't speak to

00:52:55.679 --> 00:52:58.659
how the... I've heard the anime bars are pretty

00:52:58.659 --> 00:53:04.460
safe if you have a room. Oh, yeah. No, the rooms

00:53:04.460 --> 00:53:07.449
are at least... You can pay to have a locking

00:53:07.449 --> 00:53:11.269
door. That's all fine. Okay, cool. Yeah. But

00:53:11.269 --> 00:53:14.610
no, this is just me, like, at the bar with a

00:53:14.610 --> 00:53:17.489
bunch of old men and being like, oh, shit. I

00:53:17.489 --> 00:53:19.769
just put my head down on the bar and sleeping

00:53:19.769 --> 00:53:23.550
like a student in class. But at the same time,

00:53:23.630 --> 00:53:26.929
like, you're, like, part of the circle, right?

00:53:27.469 --> 00:53:29.989
Yeah, yeah. No, nobody's going to fuck with me.

00:53:29.989 --> 00:53:33.110
Of course, no one's going to. Not in that bar.

00:53:33.269 --> 00:53:35.309
I wouldn't do it in other bars. Yeah, that's

00:53:35.309 --> 00:53:38.329
the thing that I'm thinking about. It's like,

00:53:38.429 --> 00:53:43.010
man... People get roofied here. People are always

00:53:43.010 --> 00:53:45.349
like, Japan is so safe. People get roofied here.

00:53:47.150 --> 00:53:49.050
That's a thing you have to worry about anyways.

00:53:49.369 --> 00:53:55.690
That's exactly what I was thinking about. People

00:53:55.690 --> 00:53:57.869
aren't going to steal your shit while you're

00:53:57.869 --> 00:54:02.710
roofied. What else is going to happen to you?

00:54:04.030 --> 00:54:08.369
That's the type of shit. Don't make me fly out

00:54:08.369 --> 00:54:12.590
to Japan to beat somebody up. You know, like

00:54:12.590 --> 00:54:15.190
touching you or something like that. I mean,

00:54:15.230 --> 00:54:17.409
the Japanese guys aren't that big. I could probably

00:54:17.409 --> 00:54:22.710
handle it myself. I'm sure you could. But a big

00:54:22.710 --> 00:54:26.869
old brown dude pounding your fucking face in

00:54:26.869 --> 00:54:31.150
has a little bit of a different delivery. It

00:54:31.150 --> 00:54:35.449
does. It does. I also think those 60 -year -old

00:54:35.449 --> 00:54:39.230
men that used to balk would also have something

00:54:39.230 --> 00:54:45.050
to say. I'm sure. But we don't have to get into

00:54:45.050 --> 00:54:50.570
the dick measuring. Yeah, I imagine a bunch of

00:54:50.570 --> 00:54:54.429
this is getting cut. Jesus, I have killed this

00:54:54.429 --> 00:54:57.489
bottle of soju. Oh, well, I was waiting. We're

00:54:57.489 --> 00:55:02.070
not even to review. We're not. I got this much

00:55:02.070 --> 00:55:05.730
left. Well, all right. I got one of my little

00:55:05.730 --> 00:55:09.659
buzz balls. Oh, I also have a beer, I think.

00:55:09.719 --> 00:55:13.679
I got a tall boy of Asahi. But I do have to go

00:55:13.679 --> 00:55:19.000
to work. Oh. Well, you probably should not have

00:55:19.000 --> 00:55:22.119
had that whole bottle of soju. Nah, it's fine.

00:55:22.260 --> 00:55:25.199
I just gotta count cultures on a plate for the

00:55:25.199 --> 00:55:30.199
Chinese girl. If I can still count to 100, I

00:55:30.199 --> 00:55:36.960
am good. Well, who can count to 100 anyway? I

00:55:36.960 --> 00:55:41.719
get one of the little clickers. All right. So

00:55:41.719 --> 00:55:48.960
we were at the Inouye Nakatani 2026. So I wanted

00:55:48.960 --> 00:55:57.219
to bring up Bevo Better BF2 sells 134K on pay

00:55:57.219 --> 00:56:01.360
-per -view. And I brought up other pay -per -view

00:56:01.360 --> 00:56:06.219
numbers for comparison. Sorry, how much? Because

00:56:06.219 --> 00:56:08.099
you said a different number than you have written

00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:13.760
down. $340 ,000. Right, you said $134 ,000. Did

00:56:13.760 --> 00:56:19.639
I? Wow, I'm not very good at this. $340 ,000.

00:56:19.739 --> 00:56:23.659
That is more than I thought. That is the Bevo

00:56:23.659 --> 00:56:28.739
Better Be Of Rematch pay -per -view number. So,

00:56:28.739 --> 00:56:37.719
for reference... Dinero Alvarez versus Berlanga

00:56:37.719 --> 00:56:45.460
sold $650 ,000. Gervonta Davis versus Lamont

00:56:45.460 --> 00:56:50.619
Roach was $260 ,000. David Benavidez versus David

00:56:50.619 --> 00:56:55.340
Murrell was $160 ,000. Now, the thing is that

00:56:55.340 --> 00:57:00.079
people are calling Dimitri Bivol versus Artur

00:57:00.079 --> 00:57:03.920
Beterbiev at $340 ,000. They're calling that

00:57:03.920 --> 00:57:09.639
a pay -per -view flop. Which is ridiculous. Well,

00:57:09.760 --> 00:57:12.340
the thing is that we have to consider how much

00:57:12.340 --> 00:57:17.840
they were paid for the event. Do we know? Like,

00:57:18.000 --> 00:57:21.539
Saudi's throwing money away. Everybody knows

00:57:21.539 --> 00:57:24.519
Saudi's throwing money away. True, true. So if

00:57:24.519 --> 00:57:27.880
you're going entirely on pay -per -view buys...

00:57:28.250 --> 00:57:32.869
It did better. Yeah, that is a really good number.

00:57:33.130 --> 00:57:38.670
In the post -Mayweather Pacquiao era, that 340

00:57:38.670 --> 00:57:45.230
is a solid number. It really is. So, well, and

00:57:45.230 --> 00:57:48.869
I don't think, how do I put this? They put too

00:57:48.869 --> 00:57:51.469
many big names on the same pay -per -view. But

00:57:51.469 --> 00:57:55.769
also, none of those were pay -per -view stars.

00:57:56.670 --> 00:57:59.130
There wasn't one pay -per -view star on that

00:57:59.130 --> 00:58:02.929
card. Not one. Not one. That was a degenerate

00:58:02.929 --> 00:58:07.969
card. In all honesty, that was a card that boxing

00:58:07.969 --> 00:58:10.889
fans knew a ton of names. But if you went on

00:58:10.889 --> 00:58:15.429
the street to casuals that actually do kind of

00:58:15.429 --> 00:58:20.269
watch boxing, they'll know Bivol and Beterbiev.

00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:29.989
Or Beterbiev. Yeah. I mean, nobody that isn't

00:58:29.989 --> 00:58:34.369
a hardcore fan knows who Joseph Parker is. That

00:58:34.369 --> 00:58:38.969
was something that people were pointing out with

00:58:38.969 --> 00:58:43.889
Benavidez vs. Morel. Was that Morel, of course,

00:58:43.889 --> 00:58:47.170
nobody knows who the fuck this guy is. Hardcore

00:58:47.170 --> 00:58:51.030
fans know who he is. Well, and I have a hard

00:58:51.030 --> 00:58:53.789
time judging because we're in our little echo

00:58:53.789 --> 00:59:02.820
chamber. Of course. What is what? But I... Like,

00:59:02.840 --> 00:59:06.679
Benavides. Janabek was the one. I was like, people

00:59:06.679 --> 00:59:09.780
know who Janabek is. Like, he's not popular,

00:59:09.900 --> 00:59:11.679
but people know who he is. And they're like,

00:59:11.820 --> 00:59:15.039
somebody was like, why? It's like, he's had multiple

00:59:15.039 --> 00:59:17.480
belts and defended them. And I'm like, yeah,

00:59:17.500 --> 00:59:20.579
but people don't know who the fuck he is. Yeah.

00:59:20.980 --> 00:59:25.300
I mean, morale. Morale. I think would fall into

00:59:25.300 --> 00:59:30.320
the same category as Johnny Beck. Morel had a

00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:39.440
fringe -ish title, but nonetheless, he has highlight

00:59:39.440 --> 00:59:46.699
reel performances. Yeah, but people know Shakur

00:59:46.699 --> 00:59:49.860
Stevenson's name, but nobody is excited to watch

00:59:49.860 --> 00:59:54.389
a Shakur fight. Nobody gives a fuck about Joseph

00:59:54.389 --> 00:59:58.809
Parker. I think... Zhang is a name if you watch

00:59:58.809 --> 01:00:02.289
boxing, but not really. Like, if you walked out

01:00:02.289 --> 01:00:07.150
to a crowd that says they casually watch boxing,

01:00:07.349 --> 01:00:11.309
who else was on this? Virgil Ortiz and Madrimov?

01:00:11.449 --> 01:00:18.250
Oh, don't make Alex upset. I'm just saying, like...

01:00:19.649 --> 01:00:23.670
These are not people that the average person

01:00:23.670 --> 01:00:27.210
knows. More people probably know who Callum Smith

01:00:27.210 --> 01:00:33.510
is than know who... Virgil Ortiz? No, I was going

01:00:33.510 --> 01:00:37.730
to say Carlos Adamas, but maybe not. I have no

01:00:37.730 --> 01:00:41.210
fucking scale of this. That's accurate. More

01:00:41.210 --> 01:00:44.250
people knowing who Callum Smith over Carlos Adamas?

01:00:44.369 --> 01:00:49.130
100 % accurate. Absolutely. So they're all names

01:00:49.130 --> 01:00:52.489
to you and me and all of our friends. We know

01:00:52.489 --> 01:00:55.030
who they are. Yeah, the Sickos, we know who they

01:00:55.030 --> 01:00:58.050
are. But none of these people are pay -per -view

01:00:58.050 --> 01:01:00.969
stars. No. The biggest name is Shakir Stevenson,

01:01:00.989 --> 01:01:02.730
and no one pays for a pay -per -view with him

01:01:02.730 --> 01:01:08.210
because he's boring as fuck. Man. So for that

01:01:08.210 --> 01:01:14.650
event to do 340K... I was thinking of this in

01:01:14.650 --> 01:01:19.309
the context of just wasted money, period. But

01:01:19.309 --> 01:01:26.329
in the context of the Saudis wasting money, that

01:01:26.329 --> 01:01:31.230
makes me happy. Whatever means the Saudi Arabians

01:01:31.230 --> 01:01:34.730
are losing, that makes me happy. Are you listening,

01:01:34.889 --> 01:01:37.230
Turkey? Are you going to get your fucking goons

01:01:37.230 --> 01:01:42.079
to come to my house? Go ahead. Go ahead. that's

01:01:42.079 --> 01:01:45.739
also news rumors whatever that turkey had an

01:01:45.739 --> 01:01:51.860
egyptian guy arrested arrested disappeared i

01:01:51.860 --> 01:01:56.039
have he had him he had him disappeared you want

01:01:56.039 --> 01:01:59.159
to come to my house buddy like that's that's

01:01:59.159 --> 01:02:03.619
up to you but uh i'm just gonna say 340k that's

01:02:03.619 --> 01:02:06.760
a solid like pay -per -view performance it's

01:02:06.760 --> 01:02:10.099
a solid buy it is that's a good number in the

01:02:10.099 --> 01:02:14.320
post may pack era that's a good number it is

01:02:14.320 --> 01:02:17.179
and if you decide to over stack a card that's

01:02:17.179 --> 01:02:22.059
your problem right you could you top three fights

01:02:22.059 --> 01:02:24.960
you could stack it and you probably would have

01:02:24.960 --> 01:02:27.460
done the same number you could have moved like

01:02:27.460 --> 01:02:34.199
um carlos adamas fucking Virgil Ortiz and we'll

01:02:34.199 --> 01:02:36.559
say Callum Smith, move them to a separate pay

01:02:36.559 --> 01:02:38.800
-per -view, would have done the same number.

01:02:39.679 --> 01:02:42.099
Yep. And then you'd have had the separate pay

01:02:42.099 --> 01:02:44.920
-per -view numbers for the super degenerates

01:02:44.920 --> 01:02:49.880
like me who will pay to watch Callum Smith. You

01:02:49.880 --> 01:02:53.019
would have had it with like, you could have divided

01:02:53.019 --> 01:02:56.019
this into two events instead of calling it a

01:02:56.019 --> 01:02:59.679
failure. But what really is a failure, turkey

01:02:59.679 --> 01:03:02.559
a little shake. What's really a failure is you.

01:03:04.480 --> 01:03:10.260
My hands are up because fuck you. His fucking

01:03:10.260 --> 01:03:14.719
emotional tantrums about boxing lately have also

01:03:14.719 --> 01:03:16.179
been... He's a little fucking child. He's a little

01:03:16.179 --> 01:03:20.019
baby boy that expects his toys to play the way

01:03:20.019 --> 01:03:23.760
that he wants them to. He gets so mad when the

01:03:23.760 --> 01:03:26.079
fights don't end the way he thinks they should.

01:03:27.059 --> 01:03:31.039
Man, little pissy boy. It's all good, dog. It's

01:03:31.039 --> 01:03:33.420
all good. One day you're going to grow up. It's

01:03:33.420 --> 01:03:36.280
all good. No, he's not. He's a rich, spoiled

01:03:36.280 --> 01:03:39.460
brat that just pays people to do what he wants.

01:03:40.019 --> 01:03:44.039
Well, speaking of rich, spoiled brats, Ryan Garcia

01:03:44.039 --> 01:03:49.340
moves off to Derek. He moves back to Derek James.

01:03:51.210 --> 01:03:54.469
I actually hadn't heard about this. Ryan Garcia

01:03:54.469 --> 01:04:00.469
is such a piece of shit. Yes, he is. Yes, he

01:04:00.469 --> 01:04:05.469
is. But here's one thing that I think is that

01:04:05.469 --> 01:04:10.750
by moving back to Derek James, Derek James gets

01:04:10.750 --> 01:04:15.369
to say, no more bullshit. If you want to come

01:04:15.369 --> 01:04:21.929
back to my camp, I'm in charge. Do you think

01:04:21.929 --> 01:04:26.210
that's going to stick though? I can only hope

01:04:26.210 --> 01:04:30.730
because I would like for Ryan Garcia to be better

01:04:30.730 --> 01:04:35.690
than he is. I would like to see him fucking crash

01:04:35.690 --> 01:04:42.789
and burn and everyone forget he exists. Alright.

01:04:43.010 --> 01:04:46.929
I'm a fucking elite level hater of Ryan Garcia.

01:04:49.389 --> 01:04:52.750
I like For him, the worst thing in the world

01:04:52.750 --> 01:04:56.429
is for people to forget about him. That would

01:04:56.429 --> 01:05:00.309
be what upsets him the most. I don't want him

01:05:00.309 --> 01:05:03.309
to die. I don't want anything overtly bad to

01:05:03.309 --> 01:05:04.650
happen to him. No serious harm. Nothing like

01:05:04.650 --> 01:05:08.210
that. Of course. I just want him to not be famous.

01:05:09.309 --> 01:05:14.650
Fade out of the zeitgeist. Entirely. Yeah. Like,

01:05:14.650 --> 01:05:21.159
I want him to get Lubegan. Lubegan. I don't know

01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:23.840
why I picked him, but nobody remembers who he

01:05:23.840 --> 01:05:29.460
is. I remember Lubega just because of the Lord

01:05:29.460 --> 01:05:33.480
of the Rings one that I shared with you, like

01:05:33.480 --> 01:05:41.079
the Lubega. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. One for the

01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:45.179
Monica in our lives, two for the Erica by our

01:05:45.179 --> 01:05:49.250
sides. But there was one dance that Lou Bega

01:05:49.250 --> 01:05:56.670
saved. Yeah. The Dark Lord Bega. Anyways. Anyway.

01:05:57.150 --> 01:06:01.869
Yeah, I guess if Derek James can get Ryan Garcia's

01:06:01.869 --> 01:06:06.389
shit together. But I personally don't want him

01:06:06.389 --> 01:06:10.289
to. I personally want Ryan Garcia to fail. Yeah,

01:06:10.289 --> 01:06:15.630
well. My opinion does not matter. I will be adding

01:06:15.630 --> 01:06:22.610
Ryan Garcia's success with Derek James into my

01:06:22.610 --> 01:06:28.570
Tenshin Asakawa category. Ah, fuck off. Fuck

01:06:28.570 --> 01:06:35.630
off. Well, here's what we're not fucking off

01:06:35.630 --> 01:06:42.079
with. Oi, Yokoyama. Gets the win. I only got

01:06:42.079 --> 01:06:45.559
to watch part of this fight. He looked good.

01:06:45.800 --> 01:06:52.780
He was super fucking impressive. No notes. Very

01:06:52.780 --> 01:06:55.099
impressive. This is a young man that you want

01:06:55.099 --> 01:06:58.360
to keep your eyes on. So, in case you forgot,

01:06:58.639 --> 01:07:02.920
I picked AOA as my prospect of the year last

01:07:02.920 --> 01:07:08.710
year. You did. I did. He just won the Oriental

01:07:08.710 --> 01:07:15.190
Pacific... OPBF. Yes, thank you. In his third

01:07:15.190 --> 01:07:18.769
professional fight, which, if I am understanding

01:07:18.769 --> 01:07:22.090
translations properly, he is the fastest person

01:07:22.090 --> 01:07:25.789
to ever do it. Number of fights -wise. Not the

01:07:25.789 --> 01:07:30.010
youngest, but the fastest. It's fucking crazy.

01:07:30.429 --> 01:07:33.369
They threw my boy to the wolves and he came home

01:07:33.369 --> 01:07:36.409
with a new coat. Like, he looked fucking impressive.

01:07:36.909 --> 01:07:40.610
It's the beginning of 300. Yeah. Which is exactly

01:07:40.610 --> 01:07:45.889
what you just described. That's what it is. I

01:07:45.889 --> 01:07:49.329
am so high on this kid. And he is also the kid

01:07:49.329 --> 01:07:51.929
I always talk about that volunteers at the retirement

01:07:51.929 --> 01:07:56.829
home. And he seems like such a good person. I

01:07:56.829 --> 01:07:59.780
want him to do so well. and i looked up what

01:07:59.780 --> 01:08:02.699
his name actually means so not the characters

01:08:02.699 --> 01:08:05.400
because i don't know how to read that but aoi

01:08:05.400 --> 01:08:09.559
means blue and he has the character for ocean

01:08:09.559 --> 01:08:13.579
in his first name but his last name is yogoyama

01:08:13.579 --> 01:08:19.500
which is the next mountain so he's blue from

01:08:19.500 --> 01:08:22.699
the next mountain over there i don't know why

01:08:22.699 --> 01:08:26.779
that makes me happy but it does no it's pretty

01:08:26.779 --> 01:08:32.909
cool to learn more about who the guys like who

01:08:32.909 --> 01:08:36.430
the people are that are coming up like um so

01:08:36.430 --> 01:08:40.890
he's signed with the comedas which is the only

01:08:40.890 --> 01:08:44.550
thing i'm a little wary about that concerns me

01:08:44.550 --> 01:08:49.250
too like they have a connection i don't remember

01:08:49.250 --> 01:08:52.390
which major promoter but they do have a connection

01:08:52.390 --> 01:08:56.439
to one of them They do, but they are also a family

01:08:56.439 --> 01:08:59.239
that the Japanese Boxing Commission hates. Oh,

01:08:59.359 --> 01:09:04.380
shit. Because of their behavior when they were

01:09:04.380 --> 01:09:08.220
boxing. The Kamedas are very controversial. We'll

01:09:08.220 --> 01:09:10.819
just leave it at that. Because they what? Because

01:09:10.819 --> 01:09:14.340
they lived and trained in Mexico? And they had

01:09:14.340 --> 01:09:17.279
a personality. So they learned to be Mexican.

01:09:18.000 --> 01:09:21.279
And then they came back to Japan. Like, we are

01:09:21.279 --> 01:09:26.000
Mexican, like, in culture, shitting in Japanese

01:09:26.000 --> 01:09:31.560
language. Yeah, like, I have no problem with

01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:34.479
anything the Kamedas ever did. Shrugging my shoulders

01:09:34.479 --> 01:09:39.539
for the audio. Yeah, but, like, Japan has a problem

01:09:39.539 --> 01:09:41.619
with the Kamedas. Of course they do. They don't

01:09:41.619 --> 01:09:44.500
fucking like Ioka for no apparent reason, as

01:09:44.500 --> 01:09:48.119
far as I can tell. Because he's from Osaka. So

01:09:48.119 --> 01:09:51.779
are the Kamedas. Oh, well, surprise, surprise.

01:09:52.159 --> 01:09:57.020
Of course they hate them. He's from Kansai, so

01:09:57.020 --> 01:09:59.439
he's not even from the city. He's from some small

01:09:59.439 --> 01:10:05.319
town. But this event was fucking hilarious, by

01:10:05.319 --> 01:10:08.579
the way. I don't know where you were watching

01:10:08.579 --> 01:10:12.500
it, but I watched it live. But it was concerts

01:10:12.500 --> 01:10:18.260
and boxing. Like, that was what it was billed

01:10:18.260 --> 01:10:21.840
as. It was a weekend of music and combat sports.

01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:25.560
But it was actually only boxing. Two -day event

01:10:25.560 --> 01:10:32.800
just outside of Nagoya. I always get them confused.

01:10:32.920 --> 01:10:37.619
I'm pretty sure it's Nagoya. And they had fucking

01:10:37.619 --> 01:10:43.750
idol -colored lights and dancing and DJ. battles

01:10:43.750 --> 01:10:49.229
and shit between the fights it's what Saudi wants

01:10:49.229 --> 01:10:54.390
it to be but with an actual atmosphere and uh

01:10:54.390 --> 01:10:58.909
I actually I had priced out tickets but I couldn't

01:10:58.909 --> 01:11:01.970
not a price thing I just couldn't take the time

01:11:01.970 --> 01:11:06.449
off work but anyways that's where AOA is from

01:11:06.449 --> 01:11:09.750
so of course he signed with the promoters that

01:11:10.189 --> 01:11:12.949
are near him and speak the same dialect as him

01:11:12.949 --> 01:11:16.470
and are super famous. Like, I'm not shitting

01:11:16.470 --> 01:11:19.069
on him for it, but the Japanese Boxing Commission

01:11:19.069 --> 01:11:22.189
is going to shit on him for it. And I kind of

01:11:22.189 --> 01:11:25.270
hope he moves to someone else whenever his contract

01:11:25.270 --> 01:11:30.270
is up. Because this event was not popular. It

01:11:30.270 --> 01:11:34.569
was not one of the ones that's very well advertised

01:11:34.569 --> 01:11:36.930
or anything else. And there were title fights.

01:11:37.210 --> 01:11:40.340
There were... This is the same as that weekend

01:11:40.340 --> 01:11:47.699
event where Tsutsumi won his title from Little

01:11:47.699 --> 01:11:52.119
Inoue. But it wasn't fucking advertised because

01:11:52.119 --> 01:11:54.659
it's in the middle of nowhere. Nagoya is a small

01:11:54.659 --> 01:11:59.800
city in Japan. And it's a Kameda production,

01:12:00.060 --> 01:12:06.100
so... All the ingredients are wrong, right? But

01:12:06.100 --> 01:12:10.180
this is just me as a foreigner, maybe misinterpreting

01:12:10.180 --> 01:12:14.479
things, but I don't think so. So Aoi Yokoyama

01:12:14.479 --> 01:12:17.140
is going to be fucking great. He is definitely

01:12:17.140 --> 01:12:22.420
winning at least one world title. And he needs

01:12:22.420 --> 01:12:25.300
a promoter that the Japanese government's going

01:12:25.300 --> 01:12:29.710
to like and let him get out of Japan. Does he

01:12:29.710 --> 01:12:32.550
need the Japanese government to get outside of

01:12:32.550 --> 01:12:37.670
Japan? Because if he has the Kameda family promoting

01:12:37.670 --> 01:12:45.289
him, he could leave and go up the Mexican chain

01:12:45.289 --> 01:12:48.409
of boxing. Has that ever happened, though? Question

01:12:48.409 --> 01:12:51.750
mark. Because that's what the Kameda family did,

01:12:51.970 --> 01:12:56.729
was they left Japan for exactly these reasons.

01:12:57.479 --> 01:13:01.260
Is Mexico going to let them promote a Japanese

01:13:01.260 --> 01:13:06.859
fighter in Mexico? Yes. I just haven't heard

01:13:06.859 --> 01:13:09.380
of it. I haven't either. I haven't either. Maybe

01:13:09.380 --> 01:13:12.960
they've never had anybody that good. I don't

01:13:12.960 --> 01:13:16.319
know. But if that's a fucking option, why didn't

01:13:16.319 --> 01:13:20.460
Nyoka do that? I would like for Nyoka to do that.

01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:25.140
I think it's way too late now. For him, yeah.

01:13:26.390 --> 01:13:29.189
But, like, if that's an option, why has no one

01:13:29.189 --> 01:13:32.270
ever done it? If anyone is going to do it, it's

01:13:32.270 --> 01:13:36.770
going to be the Kamedas. They have the connections.

01:13:38.750 --> 01:13:45.170
I mean, Junto's the closest thing. Right. He's

01:13:45.170 --> 01:13:47.550
not with the Kamedas, though, right? No, no,

01:13:47.590 --> 01:13:51.409
but he trains not in Mexico, I guess, but with

01:13:51.409 --> 01:13:55.569
a Mexican. Southern California in a Mexican camp.

01:13:55.880 --> 01:14:00.979
Yeah. But, like, the Japanese Boxing Commission

01:14:00.979 --> 01:14:06.079
likes Nakatani. Right. Man. And there's no reason

01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:10.979
they shouldn't like Aoi either. Like, he has

01:14:10.979 --> 01:14:15.520
no tattoos. He has no controversies. He has nothing

01:14:15.520 --> 01:14:19.300
bad yet. But if he hangs out with the Kameidas,

01:14:19.359 --> 01:14:22.960
he's going to get scandals. Whether they're warranted

01:14:22.960 --> 01:14:26.609
or not, he will get scandals. That would be like

01:14:26.609 --> 01:14:30.909
signing with people known to deal with the Kinahans

01:14:30.909 --> 01:14:36.010
or whatever their name is. MTK or Probellum.

01:14:36.189 --> 01:14:40.390
I think those were the Kinahan groups. Yeah,

01:14:40.510 --> 01:14:44.189
like even if you as a person are spotless, just

01:14:44.189 --> 01:14:47.369
dealing with those people kind of tarnishes you.

01:14:48.229 --> 01:14:54.970
Jamel Herring was like that. Spotless, but he...

01:14:55.480 --> 01:15:00.119
Signed with Kinahan. Yeah. I'm just saying. I

01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:03.380
get you. I get you. I want this kid to be smart.

01:15:03.579 --> 01:15:07.119
But he is fucking adorable and they always give

01:15:07.119 --> 01:15:12.000
him the little tear videos. Love it. Oh, shit.

01:15:12.060 --> 01:15:18.600
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Cool. Cool. Are we... My day is off the rails.

01:16:33.180 --> 01:16:36.439
Are we drinking or not drinking? I'm drinking

01:16:36.439 --> 01:16:53.289
right now. Okay. I have a tall boy. Welcome to

01:16:53.289 --> 01:16:55.989
the fucking show! Alright, just a quick blurb,

01:16:55.989 --> 01:16:57.829
just so you can get back to what you were doing.

01:16:58.909 --> 01:17:05.109
Why would a boxing fan, let's assume they're

01:17:05.109 --> 01:17:08.210
like a purist or some shit, why would they want

01:17:08.210 --> 01:17:11.310
to watch MMA, why would they want to listen to

01:17:11.310 --> 01:17:14.329
an MMA show? I'm gonna come at this from sort

01:17:14.329 --> 01:17:17.989
of like a primal level. So, I will admit there

01:17:17.989 --> 01:17:21.859
are like some very, like... unique and like stark

01:17:21.859 --> 01:17:25.199
differences between MMA and boxing and it seems

01:17:25.199 --> 01:17:28.340
like one of the main things that keeps boxing

01:17:28.340 --> 01:17:32.340
fans away from MMA is the grappling aspect and

01:17:32.340 --> 01:17:35.460
yet sometimes it can be you know a lay and pray

01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:40.899
type of fight and it can get old but man like

01:17:40.899 --> 01:17:43.880
it's just instinctual man some of these people

01:17:43.880 --> 01:17:47.680
the way they fight in MMA Is just brutal. And

01:17:47.680 --> 01:17:49.020
I feel like that's what it comes down to. When

01:17:49.020 --> 01:17:51.300
it comes to being a combat fan. A combat sports

01:17:51.300 --> 01:17:58.420
fan. I mean. We saw just recently. Mauricio Rufi.

01:17:58.439 --> 01:18:02.060
Versus Bobby Green. Spinning back. Or spinning

01:18:02.060 --> 01:18:08.239
a wheel kick. Man. I mean they went viral. And

01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:09.359
it's something that everyone can appreciate.

01:18:09.479 --> 01:18:12.500
Even boxing fans. I know a few. I have a few

01:18:12.500 --> 01:18:16.119
friends that are boxing fans. who I sent him

01:18:16.119 --> 01:18:20.380
that clip. I mean, and they were amazed. One

01:18:20.380 --> 01:18:22.579
even told me that they wish they would have seen

01:18:22.579 --> 01:18:26.300
it live because seeing that type of stuff live

01:18:26.300 --> 01:18:31.659
just elicits a euphoric feeling that you can't

01:18:31.659 --> 01:18:33.340
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too, whenever

01:18:33.340 --> 01:18:36.500
you see an amazing fight. But I just got to say,

01:18:36.560 --> 01:18:41.460
in MMA, you get those type of fights as well,

01:18:41.579 --> 01:18:44.670
just in a different type. It's different, but

01:18:44.670 --> 01:18:48.010
sort of the same. It's sort of weird how I describe

01:18:48.010 --> 01:18:50.729
it, but it's different, but the same. It comes

01:18:50.729 --> 01:18:53.149
down to that same like carnal or primal instinct

01:18:53.149 --> 01:18:58.229
of just like fights. Yeah, I always think like

01:18:58.229 --> 01:19:01.949
the biggest, the easiest transition that I always

01:19:01.949 --> 01:19:04.630
recommend, I say this all the time on Ultimate

01:19:04.630 --> 01:19:09.550
Fucking Casuals, is if you're not too keen on

01:19:09.550 --> 01:19:13.899
the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing. are

01:19:13.899 --> 01:19:16.659
exactly where you want to start. Like, you start

01:19:16.659 --> 01:19:18.800
working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,

01:19:19.020 --> 01:19:23.460
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to

01:19:23.460 --> 01:19:26.159
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,

01:19:26.279 --> 01:19:30.720
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it

01:19:30.720 --> 01:19:33.020
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends

01:19:33.020 --> 01:19:34.979
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's

01:19:34.979 --> 01:19:38.199
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah. Yeah,

01:19:38.199 --> 01:19:40.079
no, yeah, you're true. I mean, you're right.

01:19:40.380 --> 01:19:42.920
But, man, some of these grapplers, man, these

01:19:42.920 --> 01:19:46.060
scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty crazy

01:19:46.060 --> 01:19:48.600
just to see it. Like, you know, rolling around

01:19:48.600 --> 01:19:50.800
the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff that

01:19:50.800 --> 01:19:52.359
they're doing in between the scrambles. I mean,

01:19:52.359 --> 01:19:54.920
it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone over, the

01:19:54.920 --> 01:19:57.680
trips. I mean, it can be fun. But, yeah, you're

01:19:57.680 --> 01:20:00.020
right. The easiest transition is definitely start

01:20:00.020 --> 01:20:02.720
out with Muay Thai, kickboxing, and, you know,

01:20:02.760 --> 01:20:05.659
slowly work your way into MMA. And, you know,

01:20:05.760 --> 01:20:08.520
this is the thing about the ultimate fucking

01:20:08.520 --> 01:20:11.380
casuals. We will let you know which fights are

01:20:11.380 --> 01:20:14.659
going to be good. Which ones, you know, if you're

01:20:14.659 --> 01:20:17.260
not too in tune with the grappling, we can get

01:20:17.260 --> 01:20:22.579
maybe a little tag or a little asterisk on certain

01:20:22.579 --> 01:20:24.979
fights saying, like, this is a boxing purist

01:20:24.979 --> 01:20:27.479
type of fight. Yeah. You can watch this and enjoy

01:20:27.479 --> 01:20:31.500
this. Like, we'll let you know. Yeah, we always

01:20:31.500 --> 01:20:35.000
try. Like, I came into this. The whole show was

01:20:35.000 --> 01:20:37.949
started with me. I didn't know shit. about MMA.

01:20:38.010 --> 01:20:41.210
I'd never really seen an MMA fight in its entirety

01:20:41.210 --> 01:20:43.949
in my entire life. And I came into this with

01:20:43.949 --> 01:20:46.430
nothing. And yeah, that's where we're at now

01:20:46.430 --> 01:20:49.609
is like, we're talking to like, I make sure I

01:20:49.609 --> 01:20:52.529
go out of my way to bring up Muay Thai and bring

01:20:52.529 --> 01:20:55.789
up kickboxing so that people know like this for

01:20:55.789 --> 01:20:59.529
boxing fans to know this is what, this is where

01:20:59.529 --> 01:21:03.590
you can start. All right. Well, that was about

01:21:03.590 --> 01:21:06.979
it. I really appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac,

01:21:07.100 --> 01:21:09.600
for jumping on real quick. Thanks for having

01:21:09.600 --> 01:21:15.859
me on. All right. Thank you. All right. Just

01:21:15.859 --> 01:21:18.800
to get right into it, Nathan, you and I both

01:21:18.800 --> 01:21:23.840
tried the Strikeman dry fire system. What did

01:21:23.840 --> 01:21:28.380
you like about it? No, scratch that. What did

01:21:28.380 --> 01:21:32.050
you dislike? about uh i tried i have the 380

01:21:32.050 --> 01:21:35.310
acp and i have the 65 creedmoor what did you

01:21:35.310 --> 01:21:38.010
test out and what did you dislike just to start

01:21:38.010 --> 01:21:44.670
off so i got the uh 223 556 caliber uh system

01:21:44.670 --> 01:21:52.270
um and really my only um complaints really just

01:21:52.270 --> 01:21:55.750
came from the platform i was using so i my 556

01:21:55.750 --> 01:22:01.409
is a AR -15 platform, semi -automatic. Just in

01:22:01.409 --> 01:22:05.770
that context, a little tough to use because it

01:22:05.770 --> 01:22:09.449
requires the trigger to be reset before every...

01:22:09.449 --> 01:22:11.689
So it's pulling the charging handle over time,

01:22:11.810 --> 01:22:15.729
right? Right, you're not relying on the gunpowder

01:22:15.729 --> 01:22:19.510
resetting your... recycling around, so you have

01:22:19.510 --> 01:22:22.609
to rack that thing back and let the bolt fly.

01:22:24.289 --> 01:22:27.680
But, that being said, there's plenty of other,

01:22:27.720 --> 01:22:31.600
uh, you know, different types of systems that

01:22:31.600 --> 01:22:34.260
use five, five, six. You don't have to use, uh,

01:22:34.439 --> 01:22:38.859
AR style and the auto system. Yeah. We're in

01:22:38.859 --> 01:22:41.039
that context when you, when you have a big old

01:22:41.039 --> 01:22:46.680
bolt like that, um, worry. Sorry, I lost my train

01:22:46.680 --> 01:22:48.699
of thought there. Let me chop that up. But in,

01:22:48.720 --> 01:22:51.479
in that context, um, it was a little tough to

01:22:51.479 --> 01:22:55.159
use. I think this is a system that's much more

01:22:55.159 --> 01:22:58.720
oriented towards either bolt action or a pistol

01:22:58.720 --> 01:23:03.819
style, where you could just rack the slide, reset

01:23:03.819 --> 01:23:07.579
the trigger, and then you're ready to go. Yeah,

01:23:07.640 --> 01:23:10.800
I had a similar experience on the 6 .5 Creedmoor.

01:23:11.239 --> 01:23:14.840
I have a bolt action, so you don't have to go

01:23:14.840 --> 01:23:18.159
through the full range of motion to get it reset,

01:23:18.239 --> 01:23:21.359
but you do still have to pop. the bolt and then

01:23:21.359 --> 01:23:24.640
put it back down to get, to get the trigger reset.

01:23:24.939 --> 01:23:27.460
But as you were alluding to the pistol version,

01:23:27.619 --> 01:23:32.220
I have my three 80 is a single action, double

01:23:32.220 --> 01:23:36.100
action. So I don't have to rack the slide, but

01:23:36.100 --> 01:23:38.920
I can't, I do still have to pull down the, uh,

01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:41.779
the hammer a little bit to get it to fire off.

01:23:43.279 --> 01:23:47.880
Gotcha. Uh, what about the, what did you think

01:23:47.880 --> 01:23:50.720
about that? I thought the app was really cool.

01:23:51.420 --> 01:23:54.239
The setup was very easy. It took less than five

01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:57.119
minutes to get the whole stand and phone configured.

01:23:58.500 --> 01:24:01.119
I do really like a lot of the gamified features

01:24:01.119 --> 01:24:02.859
that are kind of put in there. So there's like

01:24:02.859 --> 01:24:05.520
some different challenges and you can get on

01:24:05.520 --> 01:24:07.619
kind of leaderboards and do matches with people.

01:24:08.079 --> 01:24:09.899
And I think that's just really cool because,

01:24:09.899 --> 01:24:12.340
you know, when it comes to getting better at

01:24:12.340 --> 01:24:15.840
shooting. one of the best ways to do that is

01:24:15.840 --> 01:24:18.600
learning how to shoot under pressure and so having

01:24:18.600 --> 01:24:22.159
something that's very low stakes like this you

01:24:22.159 --> 01:24:24.560
know that is a it's going to force you to be

01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:29.579
accurate but um it's going to do so in a way

01:24:29.579 --> 01:24:31.920
where it's making you you know you're not just

01:24:31.920 --> 01:24:34.420
doing it repetitively to range you're trying

01:24:34.420 --> 01:24:36.819
to almost beat yourself or beat a friend and

01:24:36.819 --> 01:24:39.300
that competition you know that raising of the

01:24:39.300 --> 01:24:41.819
stakes is going to help you become a calmer shot

01:24:41.819 --> 01:24:44.829
over time i think I really enjoy that aspect

01:24:44.829 --> 01:24:48.789
of the app. Yeah, that's something I've heard

01:24:48.789 --> 01:24:51.670
discussed when it comes to pressure shooting

01:24:51.670 --> 01:24:55.949
is your max effective range, cut that in half,

01:24:56.130 --> 01:24:58.189
and that's about what you're looking at shooting

01:24:58.189 --> 01:25:03.810
under pressure. So if you're practicing with

01:25:03.810 --> 01:25:08.430
friends, it makes it a lot easier than, I don't

01:25:08.430 --> 01:25:11.250
know, we'll call it a zombie apocalypse. You

01:25:11.250 --> 01:25:13.189
know, when you don't have walkers coming down

01:25:13.189 --> 01:25:16.029
to your face, that's a whole lot easier to just

01:25:16.029 --> 01:25:19.310
play around with friends. And also, you're doing

01:25:19.310 --> 01:25:21.310
it without spending any money on ammo. Like,

01:25:21.310 --> 01:25:24.829
obviously, we've all just happened to the stock

01:25:24.829 --> 01:25:27.770
market these last few days, and ammo could become

01:25:27.770 --> 01:25:30.829
significantly more expensive. But now with the

01:25:30.829 --> 01:25:36.130
Strikeman laser firearm training system, you

01:25:36.130 --> 01:25:38.850
don't have to spend oodles of money on ammo.

01:25:40.470 --> 01:25:42.170
You can take your time in the comfort of your

01:25:42.170 --> 01:25:46.170
own home and practice all you want. Man, that

01:25:46.170 --> 01:25:48.689
was actually kind of tough, like moving it back.

01:25:48.850 --> 01:25:55.930
I started off at what was it like? Like 10 feet.

01:25:56.229 --> 01:25:59.310
And then I moved it back to 20. And even that

01:25:59.310 --> 01:26:02.630
just that little bit was still like, man, I did.

01:26:02.670 --> 01:26:06.710
I thought I was good, but I apparently need a

01:26:06.710 --> 01:26:11.000
lot more practice. but good to find out here

01:26:11.000 --> 01:26:14.739
i think being on that timer too really shows

01:26:14.739 --> 01:26:18.279
like oh wow this is kind of the gap in in skill

01:26:18.279 --> 01:26:20.619
that i i need to work on you know there might

01:26:20.619 --> 01:26:24.520
be it's also different ranges this is similar

01:26:24.520 --> 01:26:26.939
to like archery or long range shooting really

01:26:26.939 --> 01:26:29.180
but like you could be really good at 100 yards

01:26:29.180 --> 01:26:32.659
but you go out to like 125 or an odd number and

01:26:32.659 --> 01:26:35.100
all of a sudden you're you're messed up oh right

01:26:35.100 --> 01:26:38.579
so this this is you know being able to very quickly

01:26:38.579 --> 01:26:40.920
just change the ranges that you're shooting at.

01:26:41.380 --> 01:26:43.819
Again, just in your home, in your backyard, whatever.

01:26:44.439 --> 01:26:48.420
Like, that's a really, really helpful skill you

01:26:48.420 --> 01:26:55.079
can hone with this system. Oof, yeah. Well, overall,

01:26:55.300 --> 01:26:59.180
I would call this a, what, four out of five buy?

01:26:59.479 --> 01:27:01.500
Like, it really depends on what it is that you're

01:27:01.500 --> 01:27:04.239
trying to do or what you're trying to practice

01:27:04.239 --> 01:27:08.069
with. I can't speak to any of the other calibers,

01:27:08.069 --> 01:27:12.109
but if it's like a handgun caliber, I always

01:27:12.109 --> 01:27:16.510
say if you can get a single double, get a single

01:27:16.510 --> 01:27:20.090
double. But I know that's not useful for everyone.

01:27:21.149 --> 01:27:25.390
Nonetheless, it should still help to increase

01:27:25.390 --> 01:27:28.369
your max effective range, like under pressure,

01:27:28.489 --> 01:27:30.970
right? Like I said, cut your original in half.

01:27:32.770 --> 01:27:35.050
Yeah, and I agree with that recommendation. I

01:27:35.050 --> 01:27:36.890
think any kind of pistol caliber, I think, is

01:27:36.890 --> 01:27:40.470
really well suited to this system. I think if

01:27:40.470 --> 01:27:42.949
you're going to do rifle, I think bolt action

01:27:42.949 --> 01:27:46.890
is probably going to be your best bet. But yeah,

01:27:46.989 --> 01:27:49.449
I definitely concur with your assessment on its

01:27:49.449 --> 01:27:51.750
usefulness as a pistol training tool, which I

01:27:51.750 --> 01:27:54.489
think is, if you look at, I think it's what they're

01:27:54.489 --> 01:27:59.220
aiming for when they're marketing this. They

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did well there. I think they have shotgun gauges

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as well. Like that's kind of wild. Not what I

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would have expected for like a dry fire kind

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of training thing. But hey. Oh, that sounds like

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it would actually work because you'd just be

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for a pump action. Yeah, you just pump it, right?

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Yeah, that's right. All right. Well, Nate, thanks

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for jumping on real quick. Just wanted to get

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a little bit on the Strikeman. Give us money.

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If you want to get yourself hooked up with a

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Strikeman dry fire practice system, go to strikeman

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.lvx .be. You'll get yourself 15 % off while

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helping us out a little bit in the process.