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That B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing

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Podcast. What's up, fat bitches? Did you miss

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me? We'll see how much of that's gonna make the

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fucking... The final release, but we are back

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indeed. Joan Bae, Shanada, and the one and only

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Alex. How are you all doing? Well, it's a Sunday

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for us, Alex, but Shanada, she's playing hooky

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from work. Yeah, I skipped out. Always. It's

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been a week without boxing. It has not in Japan.

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No, there's been a lot going on. I mean, a week

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without the boxing besides. Oh, yeah. It's been

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a few weeks. We will not go quietly into the

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night. We will not vanish. We didn't give up.

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Without talking more about the fights. Today's

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our Independence Day. Starting off with the olive

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branch to the MMA guys. I wanted to bring up

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a few things that were coming up. uh, review

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or preview section, there's going to be the beginning

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of PFL's 2025 season. The first event is going

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to be 170 pounds and 145 pounds. Um, those are

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glamor divisions over on that side of the street.

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And just like they are for us actually thinking

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on it, it's about light heavyweight and, or super

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middleweight and what welters. So cool. Some

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decent names in here. But if you're trying to

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get into watching MMA, this is actually a pretty

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decent place to start. One other one. Sean Brady

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submits Leon Edwards. Holy poo -poo. Who saw

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that coming? I sure didn't. Even with it being

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a late replacement. But still. Ultimate effing

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casuals if you want to check that out. And...

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Separate plug, Shanada and I talk about this

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on the Boxing Before Dark, the secondary show

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that we have going on here, where we talk about

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1 -170 quite a bit. You actually tuned in for

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this one. Yeah, I did. 1 is much more interesting

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than UFC, in my opinion. Yeah. Why is that? It's

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a lot of kickboxing instead of MMA, I guess.

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They wear gloves and they can't grapple. And

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if they go to the ground, they stand them right

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back up. There's no homoerotic cuddling on the

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floor. Yeah. Yeah. No, one FC is much more interesting

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to me. I like that. I tell people over on the

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MMA side, if you want to start like easing into

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boxing, kickboxing is a good start because it's

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boxing style gloves. With kicks added in. And

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for boxing fans crossing over to the MMA side,

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Muay Thai, there is a little bit of clinching

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allowed, but you have to be actively kneeing

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or elbowing while you're in the clinch. Otherwise,

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they break you up immediately. Muay Thai is fun.

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I do like it. It's just hard to find the fight

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sometimes. Yeah. But the cuts and the knockouts,

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Jesus Christ. Yep. Man, I keep telling people,

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1FC is where it's at. But that's enough of that

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stuff. Let's get into the reviews. This is going

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to be going, for March 22nd, we're going to be

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going in order of just how much weight these

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things have versus the actual timeline. So really

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quickly, overtime. starts back up this is they're

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not doing their tournament format yet but they

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did have some of their tournament winners or

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finalists compete on this card kurt scooby gets

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a stoppage in five over brian jimenez jeremy

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hill over ud over malik montgomery and jonathan

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mansour ko1 over marcus bose party scooby looked

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good yeah he is he is good uh he was on uh showbox

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and he was just starting to break into the boxing

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zeitgeist, and then Showtime got out of boxing

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not long after. It's very unfortunate for him,

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but he's still out there doing his thing, so

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good on Kurt. I have a bone to pick with Starboxing.

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Their fucking website is not very good. Like,

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how in the fuck does mine work better than yours?

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This is unacceptable. But Mickey Scala squeaks

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by majority decision over Victor Tony. It's the

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only fight that I really care about on that whole

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thing. Joe Smith Jr., for whatever reason, decided

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not to fight. So that's fun. God damn it, Mickey

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Scala. Supposed to do better than that. I do

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not know who Mickey Scala is. He's a local Smokey

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for me. He lives out in the East Valley. So my

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city, we refer to it as the Valley. So East Valley.

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I'm in the West. West Side? Yeah. Very much.

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I'm actually from West Side. Provox on YouTube.

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If you're not watching Provox, you should be.

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Provox is awesome. I was so close to go. I was

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about to buy a ticket for this fight. I was so

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close. You should have. I regret it afterwards.

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There's a lot of good fights on here. Even though

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you may not recognize a lot of the names, I'm

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not going to read them all, but even if you don't

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recognize them, still a lot of great fights.

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Just going from number four from the top, Kelvin

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Davis, DB3. KO4 over Jose Marufo. He looked pretty

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good. Yeah, he is. He's the oldest and the tallest,

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biggest, or whatever. He still looks good. He's

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still a Davis brother, and I've yet to see one

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of the three that doesn't look good. Jesse Magdaleno,

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TKO3, we're so back. So fucking back. Super featherweight

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Magdaleno. We'll see what he can leverage this

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into. They were talking about him the same way

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they were talking about Angelo Leo, like taking

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this and pivoting into... getting back into title

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contention. Not so sure that's going to happen

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for him, but... It would be good, though. It

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would be good for him, of course. But I don't

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see that going very well for him. Vladimir Hernandez

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split decision over Isaias Lucero. I was thinking

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going into like round five or six. It's like,

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man, I think Vladimir is about to lose. He's

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having spots of success, but he's not able to

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string anything together to really win the rounds,

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at least as I was seeing it. So I went back to

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I got myself a little camp stove and I've been

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using it outside just because cooking outside

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is just cooler for some reason. It is. And gas

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grills or a gas stove is way better than a fucking

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electric one. Anyway, so I went back to cooking

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outside, and then I come back, and I see, like,

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okay, Vlad's turning it on here. He's got the

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gas tank, and so, cool. And he ends up getting

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the split decision, so good for him. Ooh, I was

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worried for him. Was that the fight with the

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cut, or was that the main event? I can't remember.

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I think it was. Somewhere in there, yeah. Somewhere

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in there, they were yelling that they forgot

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their smocks, which always makes me laugh. Yeah,

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that's right. It was a head clash, I think in

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like the third or fourth round. And Vlad got

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it on his eyebrow. Yes, right through his eyebrow.

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Yep. And main event, Lester Martinez finally

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gets in the ring with Joshan James, KO4. Talking

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all that shit. And he didn't even make it halfway.

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Sad times. Pretty sad. uh well speaking of sad

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matchroom in sydney uh tara moana tko1 this is

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not sad he gets the tk he gets the stoppage over

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james singh dude this is like the first person

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i've ever seen that's from fiji all the way around

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here fiji you can't get any further away before

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you start coming back that's fucking dope i thought

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that was cool So Terra Moana keeps the winning

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streak going. Starts off 2025 with a bang. He'll

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probably get another four more fights in for

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this year, at least. Well, he's not taking any,

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like, any damage because he's knocking people

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out so fast. Yep. But that's what you do. You

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probably fight, like, six times. Yeah. That's

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what you do when you're a prospect. That's what

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you got to do. Moving up. Keep them busy. Everybody

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likes watching them. Sure. Sharnika Johnson,

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TKO7 over Nina Hughes. Fun. Sharnika's an Australian,

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I would say domestic level type, but she could

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work her way up into something bigger. Sky Nicholson.

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Much to Shanada's disappointment. Inconsolable.

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Sky Nicholson loses her title. Split decision

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to Tiara Brown. Not at all. Not a jobbing or

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anything like that. That was... Skye Nicholson's

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the princess of Australia, pretty much. Yep.

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And they didn't even bother to buy her a win.

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I was about to say, I was so surprised they didn't

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even attempt to rob her, to rob the other girl.

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Well, somebody had it the other way. Yeah, it

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was... It wasn't, like, crazy, though. No. You

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know how a matchup can be. Where it's 118 -110.

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I remember that Cal Smith fight on the Bevo -Better

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Bevo undercard. It was 118 -110. It's pretty

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wild. Oh, with Boazzi. Yeah. That's right. That

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was otherworldly. You know who else is... I'm

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so happy that Skye Nicholson got exposed. She's

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not that good. I don't know if exposed is the

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right word. She lost a competitive fight, but

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yeah, she's like not that great. I think if they

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run it back, she'll lose it more clearly. She's

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not horrible, but she's not that good. Everybody

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was talking like she was going to be the next.

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She's just good looking. Whatever. That's really

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it. That's why it's because she's good looking.

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Who cares? Well, Tiara Brown didn't care. Not

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so good looking now. Yeah, she got beat up, huh?

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Yeah. Good looking after the beating. Man, speaking

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of good looking or not good looking, George Cambosos

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Jr. That was embarrassing. You think he's a hottie?

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No, not looking good. I even have the wrong name

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on here. I didn't correct it, but he gets a UD

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over the late replacement. It was like Lee Wiley,

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I think it was. Something Wiley. I remember someone

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jokingly calling him Wiley Coyote. And Kambosis

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went life and death with this guy. Yeah, like

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super late replacement. Kambosis should not have

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gone to the distance with this guy. He looked

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so nervous and out of his element in the last

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first... The last first. The first three or four

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rounds. That Wiley guy was just like, holy shit.

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I'm here. He held his own. He did. Afterwards,

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yeah. He finished the fight really strong, but

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Kambosa should have got him out in the first

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five rounds. Sure. We spend a lot of time talking

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about this one on Boxing Before Dark, so I recommend

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checking that one out. You can definitely get...

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less restrained thoughts. And let the reins off.

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Well, it would just be a repeat of what I said.

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Yeah. But Kambosa should be doing better than

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this. Absolutely. If he thinks he's world class,

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he should not go to decision with a local guy

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on two weeks notice. Was it even two weeks notice?

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No. I think it was less, right? I think it was

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less than a week. Yeah, that's fucking crazy.

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Like, Cambosos should do better. That was, like,

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the gist of what we were talking about over there,

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was that if we need to let go of the illusion,

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whoever it is that's still trying to hold on

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to it, we need to let go of the illusion that

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George Cambosos is world -class. Because he fucking

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isn't. No. For Aussie domestic level? Oh, sure

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he did. That was great. So that automatically

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means that he's the best in the division. Yeah,

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but then Lomachenko made him look fucking stupid.

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He embarrassed him. Absolutely clowned on him.

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Argument destroyed. Struggles with Maxie Hughes.

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Struggles with Lee Wiley. I thought Maxie Hughes

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beat him. I thought Maxie Hughes won. I absolutely

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thought he won. And Maxie Hughes is not really

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world -class either. Right. No. Keep him, keep

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Cambosos to these like domestic dust -ups and

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we're, you're cooking with something there. Like,

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yeah, I guess he's a name, but like, why? I think

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what they could start doing with him is they

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could probably put him with fighters that are

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being built up and they could be like a, I guess

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like a Gamboa or a Delorme, you know what I mean?

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Like a gatekeeper? Yeah, something like that.

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You know what I mean? Exactly. To test these

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young kids out. Well, Wiley took him to decision

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on a week's notice. I don't even know how good

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of a fucking gatekeeper he is. Wiley's a pound

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for pound guy. I tried to be... I did a to be

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fair or to give Kambosis the benefit of the doubt.

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over on Boxing Before Dark and Shanada just fucking

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ripped into me. Like, no. You don't do that.

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You do not do that for Cambosos. Even I wouldn't

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say that. I depend upon Schofield. You guys are

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way too nice over here. Speaking of nice. We

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have to get to a heated car. We gotta get heated.

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Eventually, yeah. There's one that's gonna come

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up. So, yeah, speaking of being too nice, Jesus

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Ramos, Merckx, Guido Schramm, not as good as

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Vladimir Hernandez did it, but it was also much

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less competitive than Vladimir Hernandez's win.

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So Jesus Ramos is going to keep piling up those

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wins. He did not lose to Erickson Lubin. You

00:16:58.580 --> 00:17:02.379
can take that to the bank. Fucking not nice.

00:17:02.500 --> 00:17:06.359
Elijah Garcia. Ah, that's right, huh? Drops the

00:17:06.359 --> 00:17:10.299
decision to Terrell Gachet. Homeboy just did

00:17:10.299 --> 00:17:14.920
not have answers for anything. For anything.

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And I'm very disappointed. You better rep my

00:17:20.759 --> 00:17:24.779
zip code, bitch. You better win. The thing is

00:17:24.779 --> 00:17:27.559
that with Elijah Garcia, I don't get why they're

00:17:27.559 --> 00:17:31.640
robbing people for him, specifically. Like, what's

00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:36.579
their goal here with him? Right. Are they going

00:17:36.579 --> 00:17:38.140
to try to build him into another Mexican -American

00:17:38.140 --> 00:17:41.420
fighter that sells pay -per -view? Like what?

00:17:41.799 --> 00:17:43.460
He's never going to be like that. He's slow.

00:17:43.740 --> 00:17:46.900
He has no skill. No respect to him. He's a boxer,

00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:50.400
and obviously there's all the respect. But he's

00:17:50.400 --> 00:17:54.839
never going to be with the elite. Not even with

00:17:54.839 --> 00:17:59.519
the George Kimboses of the world. I don't understand

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why you let him lose to Kyron Davis. Or let.

00:18:04.029 --> 00:18:07.309
That's a strong word. But now you're going to

00:18:07.309 --> 00:18:11.970
pull it out against Terrell Gauchet. Drops the

00:18:11.970 --> 00:18:14.049
fucking ball. That was a loss, man. He should

00:18:14.049 --> 00:18:18.849
be 16 -2 right now. Yeah, for sure. And he's

00:18:18.849 --> 00:18:22.069
not even that fun to watch. No. He was okay against

00:18:22.069 --> 00:18:25.970
Jose Resendiz, but that's only because Resendiz

00:18:25.970 --> 00:18:30.009
comes to brawl. So that's where the fun was.

00:18:30.450 --> 00:18:34.589
It takes two to tango. Right. Chiron and Terrell

00:18:34.589 --> 00:18:37.369
Gachet were not interested in letting him settle

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into his shots. That's my main part. He's 21,

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so he's still got time. Like, this whole, I've

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got to be a champion before I turn 22 or whatever

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shit. No. No, dude. He might feed him to Lara,

00:18:58.670 --> 00:19:04.619
maybe, but... That would go very horribly for

00:19:04.619 --> 00:19:08.299
Garcia. I would rate Erislandy Lara to stop him.

00:19:09.380 --> 00:19:12.319
Well, the thing is that if it goes to decision,

00:19:12.519 --> 00:19:17.240
they might just give it to the kid. Yeah. Extra

00:19:17.240 --> 00:19:20.779
pay on the backside. I don't know. Lara should

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have enough power to stop him. He does. I would

00:19:26.200 --> 00:19:30.259
not bet money on that one. having the option

00:19:30.259 --> 00:19:34.119
of being a robbery i think lara stops him i would

00:19:34.119 --> 00:19:36.759
put money on on the decision though just because

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it's probably gonna be so high and you know knowing

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pvc they love to do that shit yeah but i just

00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:47.259
i i don't see garcia going to a decision oh hell

00:19:47.259 --> 00:19:50.839
no but if it does you make a lot of money yeah

00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:57.259
hamburger bits A hamburger with cheese on it.

00:19:57.299 --> 00:20:01.680
A cheeseburger. Add a little extra. Add the 50

00:20:01.680 --> 00:20:05.900
cents. So you could pay the transaction fees.

00:20:06.700 --> 00:20:09.859
I should have put 50 pizza bets on Tank Roach.

00:20:11.220 --> 00:20:13.779
You should have. You had that one. You called

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that one. I did. I'm sad. That's it. Anything

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more for Elijah Garcia? Because I wanted to give

00:20:22.359 --> 00:20:26.180
most of the time. To Sebastian Fundura. And Cordell

00:20:26.180 --> 00:20:33.259
Booker. Fuck the BBC. Alright. So Sebastian Fundura.

00:20:33.339 --> 00:20:35.680
Stops Cordell Booker. Exactly what you'd expect.

00:20:36.539 --> 00:20:42.960
Retains his WBC WBO titles. The world's his oyster.

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He's the. I'm trying to think of how to phrase

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this. Is he legit? Or is he still like a freak

00:20:51.119 --> 00:20:54.769
show? Is he somebody that like. more to zalif

00:20:54.769 --> 00:20:57.349
one of the other champions is he somebody he

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should be worried about i think is a problem

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for most people and not just because he's a freak

00:21:05.130 --> 00:21:09.150
show tall like fandora doesn't use his height

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no like he gives up that advantage all the time

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and he just brawls on the inside so he can be

00:21:16.069 --> 00:21:19.609
beat but he's pretty good on the inside for what

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he is the more i watched from the world the more

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he pissed me off Because I'm not even joking.

00:21:25.599 --> 00:21:28.759
I love the kid. I think he's a really humble

00:21:28.759 --> 00:21:30.559
fighter. I respect him a lot. I like watching

00:21:30.559 --> 00:21:33.779
him. He's fun to watch. Except it's just his

00:21:33.779 --> 00:21:38.339
body size is his potential that he has. I mean,

00:21:38.359 --> 00:21:41.180
if he was with a different trainer, if he was

00:21:41.180 --> 00:21:44.200
with freaking Sugar Hill, you know what I mean,

00:21:44.220 --> 00:21:46.940
or even Robert Garcia, where they would utilize

00:21:46.940 --> 00:21:50.930
his specialties, he would be a problem. Like,

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dude, there's no hitting a guy that tall with

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a damn good jab, you know what I mean? Like,

00:21:55.130 --> 00:21:56.829
if he had a Tommy Hearns jab, oh, he would be

00:21:56.829 --> 00:21:59.769
a killer. But he doesn't. He's an inside fighter

00:21:59.769 --> 00:22:05.450
when he's 6 '7". Okay. I have a theory on this.

00:22:05.650 --> 00:22:07.789
Because Fandora's the one that wears glasses,

00:22:07.869 --> 00:22:11.549
right? Yes. I don't think Fandora can see far

00:22:11.549 --> 00:22:26.500
enough to jab. Ooh. Oh, my God. I think he's

00:22:26.500 --> 00:22:28.940
got bad eyes. If you see him with his glasses

00:22:28.940 --> 00:22:33.579
on, they're pretty thick. Gabby has some pretty

00:22:33.579 --> 00:22:38.359
thick glasses too. I just think Pandora can't

00:22:38.359 --> 00:22:43.240
see that far. Holy shit. You just changed the

00:22:43.240 --> 00:22:48.960
game for me. Holy crap. i didn't realize he probably

00:22:48.960 --> 00:22:52.420
could have had a disability like i i legitimately

00:22:52.420 --> 00:22:54.579
think that's part of why he fights the way he

00:22:54.579 --> 00:22:58.180
does is that you can't wear contacts yeah like

00:22:58.180 --> 00:23:02.720
that would be yeah i i think he has to get close

00:23:02.720 --> 00:23:06.240
enough to see them before he can hit them okay

00:23:06.240 --> 00:23:08.859
you know what you're right you're right i'm maybe

00:23:08.859 --> 00:23:11.869
i'm being a little too harsh Everybody always

00:23:11.869 --> 00:23:14.109
talks about it, but nobody brings up that he

00:23:14.109 --> 00:23:17.690
has shit eyes. I literally never thought about

00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:19.450
that. Honestly, I'm going to be honest. I just

00:23:19.450 --> 00:23:21.849
thought it was like a, you know, like not a trend,

00:23:21.869 --> 00:23:24.009
but what's the quote? What's the word? Fashion

00:23:24.009 --> 00:23:27.150
statement? A fashion, you know, fashion thing.

00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:28.730
I mean, obviously he's wearing glasses, but you

00:23:28.730 --> 00:23:30.349
know, a lot of people, they wear the glasses

00:23:30.349 --> 00:23:33.529
because, you know, it makes them look, you know

00:23:33.529 --> 00:23:37.349
what I mean? Maybe, but like he wears them all

00:23:37.349 --> 00:23:41.230
the time. I bet you he can't really read without

00:23:41.230 --> 00:23:45.250
his glasses on. I think he's pretty blind. That's

00:23:45.250 --> 00:23:48.809
so true. You know what? I kind of just showed

00:23:48.809 --> 00:23:52.430
him a whole argument. Yeah. That changes the

00:23:52.430 --> 00:23:55.029
way that I look at him altogether. Yeah. Actually,

00:23:55.069 --> 00:23:56.789
yeah, exactly. You just blew my motherfucking

00:23:56.789 --> 00:24:00.029
mind. I'm like, damn. Everybody's out here making

00:24:00.029 --> 00:24:03.490
fun of a disabled guy for doing the best he can

00:24:03.490 --> 00:24:08.170
with what he's been given. You're right. You're

00:24:08.170 --> 00:24:11.910
right. I just... Damn. Damn. But you're right.

00:24:11.970 --> 00:24:14.069
If he had a good jab, he'd be fucking unstoppable,

00:24:14.210 --> 00:24:16.490
but I don't think he can see people to hit them.

00:24:16.990 --> 00:24:20.410
Oh, yeah. That's sad. If that's the case, then

00:24:20.410 --> 00:24:24.390
I wish he had better eyes. He could see Tim Zhu

00:24:24.390 --> 00:24:27.609
because he was completely covered in blood, so

00:24:27.609 --> 00:24:30.470
he was totally red, which stood out from everything

00:24:30.470 --> 00:24:37.089
else. He'd be colorblind, too. Oh, man. Does

00:24:37.089 --> 00:24:42.910
he even have eyes? He makes people wear little

00:24:42.910 --> 00:24:50.569
bells so he can hear where they are. There have

00:24:50.569 --> 00:24:54.890
been deaf fighters before, but a blind one, that's...

00:24:54.890 --> 00:24:57.109
Have you ever watched the wheelchair boxing?

00:24:58.230 --> 00:25:01.250
No, I've seen clips of it, but I haven't seen

00:25:01.250 --> 00:25:04.240
it. That looks like madness. I don't know if

00:25:04.240 --> 00:25:09.140
that's even a sport. It's fun. Yeah, no, my theory

00:25:09.140 --> 00:25:11.619
is Fandora just has shit eyes. My theory is he

00:25:11.619 --> 00:25:15.019
can't see far enough to jam people. Either way,

00:25:15.099 --> 00:25:17.740
even with that, that kind of cements my point

00:25:17.740 --> 00:25:20.319
even further than that. Again, I love the kid,

00:25:20.380 --> 00:25:23.059
but I think he's pooed. I seriously think that

00:25:23.059 --> 00:25:27.019
most people in that division eats him up. Virgil,

00:25:27.119 --> 00:25:30.339
I think, kills him. Bokrum definitely knocks

00:25:30.339 --> 00:25:34.390
him out. Tim Zhu, I think the whole Tim Zhu fight

00:25:34.390 --> 00:25:37.809
was kind of... I get props for the kid, but Tim

00:25:37.809 --> 00:25:39.609
Zhu was kind of on a... They got to do it again.

00:25:40.210 --> 00:25:41.950
He was on a debuff. I think they should have

00:25:41.950 --> 00:25:43.390
ran it back immediately after, but he was on

00:25:43.390 --> 00:25:45.670
a debuff that whole fight with blood raining

00:25:45.670 --> 00:25:47.970
in his eyes. Yeah. You know what I mean? Tim

00:25:47.970 --> 00:25:51.150
Zhu was winning that fight until he got lightheaded

00:25:51.150 --> 00:25:54.809
from loss of blood. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Which kind

00:25:54.809 --> 00:25:58.710
of sucks, but, you know. What can you do about

00:25:58.710 --> 00:26:00.750
it? The fight's already over. It's passed. He's

00:26:00.750 --> 00:26:04.049
got the titles. I'm still pissed off. I'm still

00:26:04.049 --> 00:26:07.230
pissed off at Zeus Corner. And the ref. And the

00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:09.069
doctor. Somebody should have fucking stopped

00:26:09.069 --> 00:26:11.589
that fight and made it a no contest. At least

00:26:11.589 --> 00:26:15.869
by round 5 or 6. You know what I mean? Early

00:26:15.869 --> 00:26:18.789
decision. That cut, they should have just called

00:26:18.789 --> 00:26:22.950
it there. No contest. That cut was huge. It was

00:26:22.950 --> 00:26:24.910
going to rain in his eyes the whole fight. Any

00:26:24.910 --> 00:26:28.339
idiot could see that. But the thing that makes

00:26:28.339 --> 00:26:30.559
me laugh is that Tim Zu didn't run in the corner

00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.619
mid -fight. He stood right there and fought,

00:26:33.799 --> 00:26:35.400
even though he had blood in his eyes. That was

00:26:35.400 --> 00:26:39.299
burning his eyes when a so -called tank couldn't

00:26:39.299 --> 00:26:42.900
even handle the grease. He didn't take a knee,

00:26:43.099 --> 00:26:47.859
didn't lean out and get his face wiped. Exactly,

00:26:47.900 --> 00:26:50.619
yeah. I mean, fucking tank, he... I'm not going

00:26:50.619 --> 00:26:52.140
to rant, I'm sorry. I'm about to go rant about

00:26:52.140 --> 00:26:53.700
tank. This is not tank's time. This is Fundora's

00:26:53.700 --> 00:26:57.259
time. Fundora, again, I think... If they want

00:26:57.259 --> 00:27:00.220
to, they can make money off him by giving him

00:27:00.220 --> 00:27:02.839
to a more profitable fighter that can make more

00:27:02.839 --> 00:27:05.799
money, but we'll see. People have been saying

00:27:05.799 --> 00:27:11.180
this forever, though. What? That he's food? Yeah.

00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.539
People keep saying it, and he's only lost once.

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:20.440
The way he lost is kind of bad, though. Yeah,

00:27:20.460 --> 00:27:25.670
but... I don't know. Where's the guy he lost

00:27:25.670 --> 00:27:28.130
to done since? You know what I mean? Got his

00:27:28.130 --> 00:27:32.250
ass kicked by Bo Huchuk? Yeah. Yeah, but Bo Huchuk's

00:27:32.250 --> 00:27:34.950
a fucking tank. I don't care what anybody says.

00:27:35.630 --> 00:27:39.170
But Bo Huchuk can eat some damn good shots. See,

00:27:39.250 --> 00:27:41.390
that's the thing. I think that Bo Huchuk versus

00:27:41.390 --> 00:27:44.170
Virgil fight was, like, not intended to be, um...

00:27:44.170 --> 00:27:48.210
Like, what was the word? I think if Bo... Well,

00:27:48.269 --> 00:27:51.150
not just that, but I think, um... Both fighters,

00:27:51.269 --> 00:27:54.069
if they were more built up, like, I don't know.

00:27:54.089 --> 00:27:57.269
I feel like that could have been, like, in a

00:27:57.269 --> 00:27:59.869
different universe. A blockbuster, yeah. If a

00:27:59.869 --> 00:28:01.109
lot of people were watching, it would have been

00:28:01.109 --> 00:28:03.190
easily a blockbuster. You know what I mean? I

00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:06.690
was excited for that fight. So was I. I guess

00:28:06.690 --> 00:28:08.609
we're degenerates. We're sickos, so of course.

00:28:09.269 --> 00:28:13.009
We're casual degenerates. Yeah. That was an amazing

00:28:13.009 --> 00:28:17.069
day. That was an amazing day. Xander Zayas was

00:28:17.069 --> 00:28:20.500
there. I assume he's with top rank. I assume

00:28:20.500 --> 00:28:27.240
because he's next in line for WBO. I'm not sure.

00:28:28.400 --> 00:28:32.680
Xander was really nice in his last outing against

00:28:32.680 --> 00:28:40.599
Slowa. Was it Spomer? But I don't know. I think

00:28:40.599 --> 00:28:43.019
Fandora could beat him. I think Fandora can beat

00:28:43.019 --> 00:28:49.789
him. I think it's 50 -50. Really? I think it's

00:28:49.789 --> 00:28:53.170
a competitive but clear win for Fundora. I think

00:28:53.170 --> 00:28:57.190
Zayas is overrated. And I don't think he's rated

00:28:57.190 --> 00:29:01.950
that high. He's not. But I still think he's overrated.

00:29:02.509 --> 00:29:04.049
Most people in the division beat him as well.

00:29:04.390 --> 00:29:07.730
I mean, it's two guys that are kind of not the

00:29:07.730 --> 00:29:09.930
greatest. I mean, that always can't create a

00:29:09.930 --> 00:29:14.250
good fight. You know what I mean? Oh, yeah. I

00:29:14.250 --> 00:29:21.329
just, I think Fundora takes it. Yeah, I slightly

00:29:21.329 --> 00:29:23.269
agree with you. I think maybe it's like 51 -49,

00:29:23.430 --> 00:29:26.250
Fundora. Just because of his height. But you

00:29:26.250 --> 00:29:30.049
can't count on Zayas. Fair enough. I would watch

00:29:30.049 --> 00:29:32.730
that fight. I think it's a good matchup. Yeah,

00:29:32.730 --> 00:29:34.789
I think it's a good one. What about Keith Thurman?

00:29:35.470 --> 00:29:38.369
That seems like it's in the... Why is Keith Thurman

00:29:38.369 --> 00:29:41.569
still around? Because he just beat Brock Jarvis.

00:29:42.630 --> 00:29:46.170
Yeah, but come on, dude. Keith Thurman is way

00:29:46.170 --> 00:29:49.710
past his prime. And the boxing theory that we

00:29:49.710 --> 00:29:54.369
have for the hamper. Hamper. The unified boxing

00:29:54.369 --> 00:29:58.029
laundry theory. The boxing laundry theory. He's

00:29:58.029 --> 00:30:01.759
past the hamper. He's already in the washing

00:30:01.759 --> 00:30:05.440
machine. He just hasn't been turned on yet. I

00:30:05.440 --> 00:30:09.779
think he's in the thrift store, dog. They sold

00:30:09.779 --> 00:30:11.960
him to Goodwill and then someone else bought

00:30:11.960 --> 00:30:15.259
him. And now he's back. And they're going to

00:30:15.259 --> 00:30:18.700
be used every so often. He's never going to stay

00:30:18.700 --> 00:30:22.619
healthy long enough to do anything. Not anything

00:30:22.619 --> 00:30:27.309
of note, anyway. it's sad but it's a big what

00:30:27.309 --> 00:30:30.190
if keith thurman is a huge what if type of person

00:30:30.190 --> 00:30:34.349
you never know maybe he can come back and win

00:30:34.349 --> 00:30:37.410
no he's fucking yo i don't think he's either

00:30:37.410 --> 00:30:39.829
but i mean what if he does he could pull manny

00:30:39.829 --> 00:30:44.990
pacquiao pacquiao was built different like physically

00:30:44.990 --> 00:30:47.690
built different pacquiao had very few injuries

00:30:47.690 --> 00:30:52.660
his entire career and steroids I'm joking, I'm

00:30:52.660 --> 00:30:56.539
joking. Are we though? I'm joking. I love Pacquiao.

00:30:56.619 --> 00:31:01.420
So do I. But I'm sure he did. I always say it,

00:31:01.440 --> 00:31:04.539
whoever your favorite fighter is, I'm not asking,

00:31:04.740 --> 00:31:07.119
I'm saying your favorite fighter probably is

00:31:07.119 --> 00:31:11.680
taking PEDs. Probably. It's more likely than

00:31:11.680 --> 00:31:15.819
not. There is a really cool scientific paper

00:31:15.819 --> 00:31:18.619
that I don't think is super scientific, but they

00:31:18.619 --> 00:31:22.849
measured wrist size. in boxers and punching power

00:31:22.849 --> 00:31:27.509
output and pacquiao's wrists are giant like his

00:31:27.509 --> 00:31:31.369
bone structure is solid and his wrist size is

00:31:31.369 --> 00:31:34.769
up in the heavyweight division size -wise and

00:31:34.769 --> 00:31:38.430
that's why he hits like a brick yeah like he's

00:31:38.430 --> 00:31:43.250
got huge wrists and calves his calves are crazy

00:31:43.250 --> 00:31:48.130
yeah that's how he generates he was malnourished

00:31:50.289 --> 00:31:52.829
Pacquiao with good nutrition throughout his childhood

00:31:52.829 --> 00:31:56.049
was probably supposed to be like five inches

00:31:56.049 --> 00:32:00.490
taller. Then you'd be a killer. A real, real

00:32:00.490 --> 00:32:07.289
killer. Pacquiao's calf power and wrist thickness

00:32:07.289 --> 00:32:14.630
punching power versus Isaac Cruz's neck. Who

00:32:14.630 --> 00:32:17.450
do you got? You get Canelo. You get Canelo is

00:32:17.450 --> 00:32:23.500
what you get if you put those two together. That's

00:32:23.500 --> 00:32:29.359
crazy. I can't imagine that. Wow. So one thing

00:32:29.359 --> 00:32:31.960
that they were talking about for Fundora, I think

00:32:31.960 --> 00:32:34.380
it was just a general press release from the

00:32:34.380 --> 00:32:38.200
camp. Whenever Spence dropped out the last time,

00:32:38.319 --> 00:32:40.579
he said, I'll come back when I'm ready or whatever

00:32:40.579 --> 00:32:43.779
the fuck. Spence is retired. Yeah. Fuck you,

00:32:43.859 --> 00:32:47.700
Spence. It's, I think. That second car crash

00:32:47.700 --> 00:32:50.400
fucked him again. He got in another one? Yeah.

00:32:51.559 --> 00:32:54.819
Yeah, so he had the bad car crash. Then he had

00:32:54.819 --> 00:32:57.700
the retina surgery. Then there was another car

00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:01.539
crash a couple years ago. Wow. They should have

00:33:01.539 --> 00:33:04.559
taken away his license. Well, he should stop

00:33:04.559 --> 00:33:09.299
drinking and driving. Yeah, exactly. It's so

00:33:09.299 --> 00:33:11.940
sad to think about what could have happened with

00:33:11.940 --> 00:33:15.680
him and Crawford, really. Why the fuck just pay

00:33:15.680 --> 00:33:19.299
someone to drive you home? Like, if you don't

00:33:19.299 --> 00:33:21.660
want somebody driving your fucking fancy car,

00:33:21.859 --> 00:33:24.039
put it on a trailer. Have it towed to your house.

00:33:24.119 --> 00:33:26.460
You have millions of dollars. Don't be a fucking

00:33:26.460 --> 00:33:32.200
idiot. Well, he did fight Crawford. Yeah, and

00:33:32.200 --> 00:33:34.839
you saw how he looked in that fight. Yeah, he

00:33:34.839 --> 00:33:37.299
did another, yeah. According to me, that fight's

00:33:37.299 --> 00:33:39.880
still yet to happen, so I'm still excited for

00:33:39.880 --> 00:33:42.319
that ring walk. I'll be ready. I'll be ready

00:33:42.319 --> 00:33:48.160
with a sixer of something. Well, when... He was

00:33:48.160 --> 00:33:50.839
supposed to fight Pacquiao, wasn't he? And that's

00:33:50.839 --> 00:33:53.480
when he had the retina surgery? That's when Uga

00:33:53.480 --> 00:33:57.380
stepped in, right? Yeah. Yes. I'm pretty sure

00:33:57.380 --> 00:33:59.299
that's what happened. That's right. Honestly,

00:33:59.480 --> 00:34:01.500
I think Pacquiao would have beat him. He had

00:34:01.500 --> 00:34:05.200
a detached retina in his... Yeah. That's right.

00:34:05.359 --> 00:34:08.739
I don't think Pacquiao would have beat him. Pacquiao

00:34:08.739 --> 00:34:11.619
was way past his prime. Yeah, but Earl Spence

00:34:11.619 --> 00:34:14.219
was fucked from the car crash and just had eye

00:34:14.219 --> 00:34:20.159
surgery. Well, after that, I mean, Spence beat

00:34:20.159 --> 00:34:22.800
Uga's pretty bad as well. I guess. You know what

00:34:22.800 --> 00:34:26.300
I mean? I don't know. Maybe Pacquiao would have

00:34:26.300 --> 00:34:27.980
won and would have stunned the world. That would

00:34:27.980 --> 00:34:30.559
have been crazy. That would have been amazing.

00:34:31.519 --> 00:34:33.519
In a different timeline, we really could have

00:34:33.519 --> 00:34:36.679
seen Pacquiao, Crawford undisputed, 147. Holy

00:34:36.679 --> 00:34:39.780
fuck, that would have been cool. I would have...

00:34:39.780 --> 00:34:42.539
Crawford would have murdered him, but it would

00:34:42.539 --> 00:34:44.880
have been cool. I think a wet dream of mine is

00:34:44.880 --> 00:34:48.300
Crawford Pacquiao. I got to stop thinking about

00:34:48.300 --> 00:34:53.940
it. I'm sorry. I'm trying to think. I need to

00:34:53.940 --> 00:35:02.639
check who's in the WBC rankings. WBC, you said?

00:35:02.840 --> 00:35:07.510
Yeah. So Virgil Ortiz is the interim champ. Sergei

00:35:07.510 --> 00:35:10.610
Bohachuk is number one. Xander Zayas is number

00:35:10.610 --> 00:35:14.530
two. Charles Conwell, Jesus Ramos, and Israel

00:35:14.530 --> 00:35:19.190
Madrimov. That's... Wow. You got your work cut

00:35:19.190 --> 00:35:23.969
out for you. Yeah. 154 is going to be the glamour

00:35:23.969 --> 00:35:28.210
division. Yeah. This period. It already is, I

00:35:28.210 --> 00:35:32.449
think. After Charlo, you've been a couple years

00:35:32.449 --> 00:35:39.440
by me, too. Back. It's Ioannis Tellis. Tejas?

00:35:40.539 --> 00:35:45.940
Tejas. What card was he on? Was it the Roach?

00:35:47.300 --> 00:35:51.420
Was it? I don't know. Maybe it was on the Roach?

00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:53.460
I think it was the Roach. I see his name on a

00:35:53.460 --> 00:35:57.719
PVC card. Yeah, exactly. Oh, I recognize his

00:35:57.719 --> 00:36:03.000
face, I think. The Roach or Benavidez. I don't

00:36:03.000 --> 00:36:06.679
know why I said Kimo. I meant Benavidez. Sebastian

00:36:06.679 --> 00:36:12.880
Fundura at the WBO. The interim champion is Terrence

00:36:12.880 --> 00:36:17.559
Crawford. Xander Zayas is number one. Charles

00:36:17.559 --> 00:36:21.179
Conwell is number two. Jorge Perez, I don't know

00:36:21.179 --> 00:36:25.219
who this is, is number three. Josh Kelly and

00:36:25.219 --> 00:36:30.900
Cordell Booker. Basically a bunch of top -ranked

00:36:30.900 --> 00:36:35.159
guys, probably. Xander, yes. Charles Conwell's

00:36:35.159 --> 00:36:38.940
Golden Boy. Josh Kelly, I think, is Queensberry.

00:36:39.280 --> 00:36:42.980
I sometimes think Golden Boy is a little bit

00:36:42.980 --> 00:36:48.260
of an arm. It's an extension of Top Rank. Oh.

00:36:50.460 --> 00:36:55.219
I know it sounds silly, but I just always put

00:36:55.219 --> 00:36:58.239
Oscar De La Hoya with Top Rank, you know what

00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:01.670
I mean? Right. I don't know. It's hard to explain.

00:37:01.849 --> 00:37:05.550
My reasoning with that is dumb. I will admit

00:37:05.550 --> 00:37:08.130
it's very dumb to think like that. But people

00:37:08.130 --> 00:37:10.949
who are listening, tell me how dumb I am. And

00:37:10.949 --> 00:37:18.710
call in. 833 -589 -7637. I want to check. Because,

00:37:18.730 --> 00:37:25.949
of course, the ideal is Mortizaliv for unification.

00:37:27.869 --> 00:37:32.920
Or who's... WBA? Well, WBA was Crawford. Crawford,

00:37:33.000 --> 00:37:35.699
that's right. So then they're going to have –

00:37:35.699 --> 00:37:39.360
he's going to vacate the title. But who gets

00:37:39.360 --> 00:37:43.619
the title then and vacates? Let's see. Right

00:37:43.619 --> 00:37:49.920
now, Erickson Lubin is – for Mortazali of Erickson

00:37:49.920 --> 00:37:53.320
Lubin, Josh Kelly, Xander Zayas, those are the

00:37:53.320 --> 00:37:57.260
top three. Erickson Lubin is about to fight Ardriel

00:37:57.260 --> 00:38:02.079
Holmes. Oh, IBF? Yeah, that'll be an IBF eliminator

00:38:02.079 --> 00:38:05.019
for those two. What about the WBA? Yeah, let

00:38:05.019 --> 00:38:08.599
me check. You can't use Boxer for that one, unfortunately.

00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:14.940
Yeah, I'm going straight to the source. The WBA

00:38:14.940 --> 00:38:19.619
has Abbas Baro, number two's not rated, and Erickson

00:38:19.619 --> 00:38:23.639
Lubin, number three. I have Javon Estes at number

00:38:23.639 --> 00:38:29.039
two. Oh, I see. I feel like, without even thinking

00:38:29.039 --> 00:38:33.960
about it, he's probably a Cuban, huh? Yeah. Damn.

00:38:34.360 --> 00:38:38.139
I'm good. His name is Ioannis. Yeah, of course

00:38:38.139 --> 00:38:43.179
he's Cuban. Only other option would be Dominican.

00:38:44.820 --> 00:38:51.119
Some sort of islander. Right. This website must

00:38:51.119 --> 00:38:58.480
be older. Those are the options for... Man, Fundora,

00:38:58.599 --> 00:39:04.059
that is not a list of names who want my head.

00:39:04.940 --> 00:39:07.619
That's not a list of names that I would want

00:39:07.619 --> 00:39:10.960
to see. To keep the title, definitely fight Xander.

00:39:12.219 --> 00:39:15.480
But the thing is that everybody else has a really

00:39:15.480 --> 00:39:18.440
good chance of beating his ass. Like, hard, too.

00:39:18.800 --> 00:39:24.239
Yes. Virgil will kill him. I'm biased in this.

00:39:24.909 --> 00:39:27.050
But I think Virgil is the top guy in the division.

00:39:28.489 --> 00:39:31.889
I'm very, very biased, but I think he beats everybody

00:39:31.889 --> 00:39:34.949
else. I like Virgil, but I don't know if he beats

00:39:34.949 --> 00:39:40.250
everybody else. Who would beat Virgil? Bohojack

00:39:40.250 --> 00:39:44.469
almost did. Yeah, I was going to say, like, I

00:39:44.469 --> 00:39:47.030
think Mert. I think if they rematch. Mertaz,

00:39:47.030 --> 00:39:52.710
Zaliev. Yeah. Mertz, Mertz, Mertz. Mertz, Zaliev.

00:39:53.460 --> 00:39:56.300
I don't know I really like Virgil but sometimes

00:39:56.300 --> 00:40:01.179
he's stupid like you can really get Virgil into

00:40:01.179 --> 00:40:05.059
just a fight where he kind of shuts his brain

00:40:05.059 --> 00:40:08.739
off and I think if you can take a bunch of punches

00:40:08.739 --> 00:40:14.340
like you can get your punches in back I will

00:40:14.340 --> 00:40:16.900
say that his last fight Virgil I'll be honest

00:40:16.900 --> 00:40:19.239
his last fight was really good I think he showed

00:40:19.239 --> 00:40:22.739
me a lot of defensive maneuvers that I didn't

00:40:22.739 --> 00:40:27.300
think he had before. Yeah, he is improving. I

00:40:27.300 --> 00:40:29.320
do agree with you in the aspect, like, before,

00:40:29.400 --> 00:40:32.039
that he would just resort to straight -up, straightforward

00:40:32.039 --> 00:40:34.920
Mexican fighting when things got rough, especially

00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.940
with Boachuk. Because you guys remember in the

00:40:38.940 --> 00:40:42.320
first couple rounds, Virgil was kind of boxing.

00:40:43.400 --> 00:40:48.840
He was boxing pretty well. No, no, with Boachuk.

00:40:49.230 --> 00:40:52.409
Oh, yes. And then Boachuk cracked him and got

00:40:52.409 --> 00:40:54.610
him to just shut his fucking brain off. Yeah,

00:40:54.670 --> 00:40:57.090
exactly. Yeah, he just stopped after that. Which

00:40:57.090 --> 00:40:58.969
the thing is that, I mean, Virgil's never been

00:40:58.969 --> 00:41:03.530
a boxer like that, like slick. But, I mean, it

00:41:03.530 --> 00:41:05.110
was interesting to see for a couple rounds. And

00:41:05.110 --> 00:41:09.969
he did pretty good for what he did. In that aspect,

00:41:10.230 --> 00:41:12.809
like, and only that aspect, he reminds me of

00:41:12.809 --> 00:41:16.780
Arturo Gatti. He could box. If he wanted to,

00:41:16.920 --> 00:41:19.360
and if you could get him to decide to box, he'd

00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:24.219
be way better, but he just fights. Like, Gaddy

00:41:24.219 --> 00:41:26.340
in the second half of his career, when he started

00:41:26.340 --> 00:41:29.739
boxing, looked good. He looked slick. But then

00:41:29.739 --> 00:41:31.760
you throw him in with Mickey Ward, and he just

00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:34.260
shuts his brain off and does the stupidest shit

00:41:34.260 --> 00:41:37.960
you've ever seen in the ring. See, I agree with

00:41:37.960 --> 00:41:41.920
you. I agree with you. Because Virgil, if you

00:41:41.920 --> 00:41:44.380
watch the way Virgil boxed, he... He boxed pretty

00:41:44.380 --> 00:41:47.199
well. He had some things he needed to fix, but

00:41:47.199 --> 00:41:50.559
the way that Boa took him back to reality was

00:41:50.559 --> 00:41:53.639
just sad. You know, kind of sad to see. Because

00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:55.599
he could have lost that fight really easily.

00:41:56.599 --> 00:41:59.539
Especially near the later half. Because he was

00:41:59.539 --> 00:42:04.559
getting really tired. You know? Yeah. I really

00:42:04.559 --> 00:42:07.920
like Virgil Ortiz, but I think he's a little

00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.719
hit or miss whether he's actually going to use

00:42:09.719 --> 00:42:15.460
his head or not. You know, during the Bevo -Betterbeave

00:42:15.460 --> 00:42:20.519
card with him and Madrimov, you guys have probably

00:42:20.519 --> 00:42:23.219
seen this clip many times, but that one moment

00:42:23.219 --> 00:42:26.820
where he pulled down Madrimov's hand. Yeah. That

00:42:26.820 --> 00:42:29.500
was beautiful, huh? I said this last podcast.

00:42:29.739 --> 00:42:33.400
That was beautiful. It was so great. It's always

00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:38.159
nice. Yeah. But, like, Madrimov never hit him.

00:42:38.639 --> 00:42:43.019
enough to get him to to fight because madrimov

00:42:43.019 --> 00:42:45.800
only boxes but if you throw him in with another

00:42:45.800 --> 00:42:48.199
fighter i don't know i think you could still

00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:52.719
trick virgil into being stupid i don't even know

00:42:52.719 --> 00:42:55.139
what kind of fighter madrimov is some fights

00:42:55.139 --> 00:42:57.340
he's a boxer some fights he's just a puncher

00:42:57.340 --> 00:42:59.420
his last couple fights he's been a boxer though

00:42:59.420 --> 00:43:03.820
but but he's never a fighter he's either a boxer

00:43:03.820 --> 00:43:06.980
or a boxer puncher, but he's never a fighter.

00:43:07.159 --> 00:43:09.920
If you stick Virgil back in with Boa Chuck, it's

00:43:09.920 --> 00:43:11.599
going to be the same. Virgil's going to shut

00:43:11.599 --> 00:43:15.239
his brain off and do something stupid. Yeah.

00:43:16.360 --> 00:43:19.199
I kind of agree. I agree and disagree at the

00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:22.340
same time. But I'm very biased in that aspect

00:43:22.340 --> 00:43:25.059
because I love Virgil. I really like Virgil.

00:43:25.260 --> 00:43:27.820
I'm just saying that you can trick him into being

00:43:27.820 --> 00:43:35.150
stupid. I love Virgil. I'm super biased. what

00:43:35.150 --> 00:43:40.150
do you think leo um i think it's an interesting

00:43:40.150 --> 00:43:46.030
point to say virgil is the top of the division

00:43:46.030 --> 00:43:48.989
right now that really stood out to me because

00:43:48.989 --> 00:43:53.110
it's it's definitely arguable um based but that's

00:43:53.110 --> 00:43:56.329
based off of like potential right the eye test

00:43:56.329 --> 00:44:00.010
stuff that we tried i try not to get myself drawn

00:44:00.010 --> 00:44:03.400
into because right now Who has the wins? Who

00:44:03.400 --> 00:44:08.659
has the belts? Sebastian Fundura. Oh, come on,

00:44:08.659 --> 00:44:11.679
dude. I think that if they were to fight, I would

00:44:11.679 --> 00:44:17.239
very much lean towards Virgil, like, really heavily.

00:44:18.559 --> 00:44:21.260
I think Virgil probably wins, but I think it

00:44:21.260 --> 00:44:24.059
becomes a fight. I think Fundura tricks him into

00:44:24.059 --> 00:44:26.860
just standing and trading blows. And if you're

00:44:26.860 --> 00:44:30.239
going to do that, you can get knocked out. No,

00:44:30.239 --> 00:44:32.739
see... See, the thing is, I kind of disagree

00:44:32.739 --> 00:44:36.039
with you because I know you say that Fandora's

00:44:36.039 --> 00:44:38.500
the man because he has the belt, but the way

00:44:38.500 --> 00:44:42.219
he got the belt wasn't in the most legit aspect.

00:44:42.699 --> 00:44:45.380
Again, he earned it, but the thing is, he earned

00:44:45.380 --> 00:44:49.039
it against a new, a Tim Zhu that was, that he

00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:51.340
couldn't even properly function in the fight.

00:44:51.460 --> 00:44:54.219
Right. You know what I mean? So I think it's,

00:44:54.219 --> 00:44:56.679
I think we might need more time to see how Fandora

00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:00.099
is against a higher level opposition. Because

00:45:00.099 --> 00:45:05.119
Cordell Booker ain't it. No. Now, Bokrum fought

00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:08.079
a healthy Tim Zoo and knocked him the fuck out.

00:45:08.380 --> 00:45:13.000
Yes. Now, that one, Virgil's biggest opposition

00:45:13.000 --> 00:45:17.519
is going to be Bokrum. No doubt about it. I don't

00:45:17.519 --> 00:45:21.880
know if that was a healthy Tim Zoo, a physically

00:45:21.880 --> 00:45:25.739
healthy Tim Zoo, but he was fucking shook about

00:45:25.739 --> 00:45:30.550
head clashes. He was worried. Yeah, that's true.

00:45:31.550 --> 00:45:35.610
Like, that got in Zu's head. I'm interested to

00:45:35.610 --> 00:45:39.449
see if he gets over it. He might just be ruined

00:45:39.449 --> 00:45:44.090
mentally. Yeah, that happens to a lot of boxers,

00:45:44.090 --> 00:45:46.789
you know. Sometimes it's inevitable. Can't come

00:45:46.789 --> 00:45:50.269
back from it. Sad, but it just happens. Yeah,

00:45:50.269 --> 00:45:52.030
well, and I'm not, like, making fun of him or

00:45:52.030 --> 00:45:55.530
anything, but he looked scared every time their

00:45:55.530 --> 00:46:00.920
heads clashed. And with Baccarin? Yes. That was

00:46:00.920 --> 00:46:04.940
the last fight, right, Leo? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah,

00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.619
like, they had a head clash, and Zu backed way

00:46:07.619 --> 00:46:09.900
up, and he was pawing at his head with his glove

00:46:09.900 --> 00:46:13.019
and checking for blood, and it wasn't even a

00:46:13.019 --> 00:46:17.019
bad head clash. It was pretty minor. Sports therapy.

00:46:18.039 --> 00:46:22.659
That's what that's for. Yeah, I'm just saying,

00:46:22.739 --> 00:46:26.380
like, I think Tim Zu has a mental... Yeah, mental

00:46:26.380 --> 00:46:31.369
block. trauma from that cut which i don't blame

00:46:31.369 --> 00:46:35.630
him that was disgusting and i'm sure that hurt

00:46:35.630 --> 00:46:38.710
yeah it was definitely one of the worst cuts

00:46:38.710 --> 00:46:41.550
i've seen in the last 20 years well and it opened

00:46:41.550 --> 00:46:44.510
back up afterwards too because he had to delay

00:46:44.510 --> 00:46:47.989
that fight because it didn't heal properly yet

00:46:47.989 --> 00:46:53.250
yeah i mean let me tell you it was fun to watch

00:46:53.250 --> 00:46:56.769
but it was also very hard to watch It wasn't

00:46:56.769 --> 00:46:59.349
fun for me to watch. I like bloody, like, drag

00:46:59.349 --> 00:47:02.829
-out fights, but that was just unnecessary. I

00:47:02.829 --> 00:47:05.230
watched Muay Thai, and that was hard to watch.

00:47:06.250 --> 00:47:09.789
Yeah, that was so much blood. That was disgusting.

00:47:09.809 --> 00:47:12.489
I don't know what the fuck the doctor was doing.

00:47:12.550 --> 00:47:14.769
I don't know what the fuck Tim Zhu's corner was

00:47:14.769 --> 00:47:18.250
doing. Zhu's not gonna say he can't fight, but

00:47:18.250 --> 00:47:21.050
his corner could have said, our boy can't fight

00:47:21.050 --> 00:47:23.170
with that cut. Like, that's fucking ridiculous.

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:27.840
Yeah, that's sad. That was like BK bare knuckle

00:47:27.840 --> 00:47:32.139
FC levels of fucking horror. Disgusting. Yeah.

00:47:33.039 --> 00:47:38.659
Yeah. Last words. Last words for Sebastian Fedora

00:47:38.659 --> 00:47:42.599
and Cordell Booker. I mean, Fedora looked good,

00:47:42.699 --> 00:47:46.559
but you expected him to. Right. Especially against,

00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.039
yeah, Cordell Booker. It's unfortunate. He did

00:47:49.039 --> 00:47:52.429
what he was supposed to do. Yes. Yeah. You retain

00:47:52.429 --> 00:47:55.070
his titles. Take notes, Cambosos. That's how

00:47:55.070 --> 00:47:57.449
you're supposed to do it. Yeah, you don't go

00:47:57.449 --> 00:47:59.369
to a fucking decision with a late replacement

00:47:59.369 --> 00:48:03.869
that's not that good. All right, let me do this.

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Alright, cool. Into the previews. Uh, Queensberry.

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This is a... I've been calling this Ape Day.

00:50:32.509 --> 00:50:35.909
Instead of May Day, it's April 5th. There's a

00:50:35.909 --> 00:50:39.469
lot of good fights on. I thought you were calling

00:50:39.469 --> 00:50:46.610
them monkeys. No. No. Apes. Like April. Or it

00:50:46.610 --> 00:50:48.409
could be Ape Day because we're going to be all

00:50:48.409 --> 00:50:54.110
chimping out watching these. But in Manchester

00:50:54.110 --> 00:50:57.570
at the Co -op Live, Queensberry. I'm only going

00:50:57.570 --> 00:51:00.269
to pick the top three that I think are really

00:51:00.269 --> 00:51:03.289
worth paying attention to. From the bottom up,

00:51:03.369 --> 00:51:05.869
Jack Rafferty versus Corey O 'Regan. This is

00:51:05.869 --> 00:51:12.389
for the 140 -pound Commonwealth title. Is it

00:51:12.389 --> 00:51:17.389
that great of a fight? No, not really. But this

00:51:17.389 --> 00:51:20.429
Jack Rafferty, he's going to be coming into your

00:51:20.429 --> 00:51:22.769
feed soon, so start paying attention a little

00:51:22.769 --> 00:51:26.489
bit. On Boxwork, these could be the same person

00:51:26.489 --> 00:51:32.269
in two different pictures. Generic British man

00:51:32.269 --> 00:51:38.349
number two, please. Moving up, David Adelaide

00:51:38.349 --> 00:51:45.849
versus Jimmy, I think it is. I bet you it's Jamie.

00:51:46.110 --> 00:51:53.190
I think that's what I thought. I'm betting that's

00:51:53.190 --> 00:51:57.690
just Jamie spelled funny. And that's for the

00:51:57.690 --> 00:52:01.579
British heavyweight title. Again, same situation.

00:52:02.059 --> 00:52:04.019
These are guys that are going to come into your

00:52:04.019 --> 00:52:09.980
feeds soon enough. Adelaide is pretty well -known,

00:52:09.980 --> 00:52:14.639
isn't he? Yeah, he's been around a bit. I've

00:52:14.639 --> 00:52:20.059
never seen his alias. He is Big D. Big D? That

00:52:20.059 --> 00:52:25.699
is an interesting name right there. That's what

00:52:25.699 --> 00:52:31.480
Dudley Dursley went by. with his uh with his

00:52:31.480 --> 00:52:38.519
gang uh main event joe joyce versus philip hergovich

00:52:38.519 --> 00:52:45.059
10 rounds at heavyweight did you see the video

00:52:45.059 --> 00:52:47.679
they put out to hype this of them fighting i

00:52:47.679 --> 00:52:51.599
assume in the amateurs maybe that doesn't sound

00:52:51.599 --> 00:52:55.380
like it would be very good no but joe joyce looks

00:52:55.380 --> 00:53:00.039
like like You know those men that look like babies,

00:53:00.099 --> 00:53:02.500
but they're full -grown men? Like, their face

00:53:02.500 --> 00:53:06.000
looks like a baby? Yes. Joe Joyce looks so young

00:53:06.000 --> 00:53:08.440
on this giant body, and it's fucking hilarious.

00:53:10.800 --> 00:53:17.199
Fun. I don't know what to say about this. I don't...

00:53:17.199 --> 00:53:21.400
Is... I feel like Joe Joyce is kind of done.

00:53:21.699 --> 00:53:25.079
He's like 40 years old, which... That's the...

00:53:25.280 --> 00:53:30.059
later stages for heavyweights, but I don't know.

00:53:30.119 --> 00:53:33.460
I think he's done. I like Joe Joyce. I'm going

00:53:33.460 --> 00:53:36.679
to watch this. I want him to win. But yeah, I

00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.500
agree. He's not going to get back to world level.

00:53:41.820 --> 00:53:46.059
Usually, I would queue up the Joe Joyce theme

00:53:46.059 --> 00:53:50.340
song, but I need to get like a down -tempo sort

00:53:50.340 --> 00:53:59.019
of sad version. Oh. No. All right, moving on.

00:53:59.300 --> 00:54:04.500
Top rank in Astana, Kazakhstan. Motherfucking

00:54:04.500 --> 00:54:09.320
only two fights on here that I recognize. That's

00:54:09.320 --> 00:54:15.239
Baturzan Jukambayev versus Kane Gardner. I think

00:54:15.239 --> 00:54:19.980
it's Kane. It might be Kane. But Baturzan, he's

00:54:19.980 --> 00:54:24.519
a Pro Box alumni, so check him out. He's fun

00:54:24.519 --> 00:54:28.940
to watch. And Johnny Beck, Alim Kanuli versus

00:54:28.940 --> 00:54:34.619
Anuel. Oh, man. I struggled with this on... It's

00:54:34.619 --> 00:54:37.820
hard to say. Boxing Before Dark. Ngami Senge.

00:54:38.500 --> 00:54:42.980
I think that was it. Ngami Senge. Sounds good.

00:54:44.039 --> 00:54:46.219
That'll work. Let me know if I've messed that

00:54:46.219 --> 00:54:48.539
up. I'll definitely be watching that fight. I

00:54:48.539 --> 00:54:50.139
love watching you get in a big fight. Yeah, Johnny

00:54:50.139 --> 00:54:52.579
Beck's cool. I think he's one of the most underrated

00:54:52.579 --> 00:54:56.079
title holders in boxing right now. You know?

00:54:56.480 --> 00:54:59.699
Yeah, I like watching Janabek. Yeah. You know?

00:54:59.900 --> 00:55:03.300
He's what Hamdashiraz is talking about. Like,

00:55:03.300 --> 00:55:04.940
you know how people say Hamdashiraz is this,

00:55:04.960 --> 00:55:08.800
this, and that? Janabek is that. Hamdashiraz

00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.860
is Shadas. All right. So he is him? Is that what

00:55:12.860 --> 00:55:15.880
we're... Oh, he is him. Janabek is him. He is

00:55:15.880 --> 00:55:18.960
him. I love Janabek. I have a pretty controversial

00:55:18.960 --> 00:55:21.139
opinion about Janabek. I honestly think that

00:55:21.139 --> 00:55:25.739
he has the potential to beat Canelo. Ooh, that

00:55:25.739 --> 00:55:27.659
is a little controversial. That's a hot one.

00:55:27.659 --> 00:55:30.000
If he goes up to 168, if he goes to 168, he beats

00:55:30.000 --> 00:55:33.179
Canelo, I think. Canelo struggles really hard

00:55:33.179 --> 00:55:38.199
against boxers, and a boxer with some power like

00:55:38.199 --> 00:55:42.420
that, like Janabek, Canelo is going to, I don't

00:55:42.420 --> 00:55:44.480
know. It will be a fun fight to watch for sure.

00:55:46.099 --> 00:55:50.719
Canelo did beat two boxers, though. Lately, though?

00:55:51.139 --> 00:55:56.019
Huh? Oh, lately? No. Johnny Beck, I would say,

00:55:56.019 --> 00:56:00.599
is not as slick as Caleb Plant or even... About

00:56:00.599 --> 00:56:03.579
to throw up in my own mouth saying this. Billy

00:56:03.579 --> 00:56:05.980
Joe Saunders is a little bit more slick than

00:56:05.980 --> 00:56:08.820
that. Yeah, but that's a different Canelo than

00:56:08.820 --> 00:56:11.599
what we got now. Oh, right. That was Canelo.

00:56:11.820 --> 00:56:15.900
This is Dinero. Yeah. This is post -vivo Canelo.

00:56:16.059 --> 00:56:19.239
Right. Also, I have a theory about Canelo. I

00:56:19.239 --> 00:56:24.739
think... Can I say it? Go on. I think... Canelo,

00:56:24.739 --> 00:56:27.699
he could lose his next fight. And the only reason

00:56:27.699 --> 00:56:29.219
why I think that is because there's a Marvel

00:56:29.219 --> 00:56:32.460
movie releasing that same week. And there's an

00:56:32.460 --> 00:56:35.340
MCU movie. And I think the last time that happened

00:56:35.340 --> 00:56:40.260
was with people. That is the dumbest correlation

00:56:40.260 --> 00:56:43.239
I have ever heard. No, okay, okay. Hold on, hold

00:56:43.239 --> 00:56:45.719
on, hold on, hold on. I think it might have some

00:56:45.719 --> 00:56:47.840
merit. It might have some... Well, obviously,

00:56:47.940 --> 00:56:50.820
Canelo's gonna win, but if he loses, it's because

00:56:50.820 --> 00:56:52.800
there's an MCU movie releasing that week. It's

00:56:52.800 --> 00:56:56.000
because of Marvel. Yeah. What movie's releasing?

00:56:56.719 --> 00:57:00.300
The Thunderbolts. I have not even heard of this

00:57:00.300 --> 00:57:03.960
one. That sounds terrible. I like comics and

00:57:03.960 --> 00:57:08.000
I haven't heard of this. I'm excited to see...

00:57:08.000 --> 00:57:12.159
I'm excited to see a fight in Kazakhstan. I want

00:57:12.159 --> 00:57:15.440
to see what a Kazakh crowd looks like. You should

00:57:15.440 --> 00:57:22.269
go watch it. I should go? I don't think... I

00:57:22.269 --> 00:57:24.710
don't think women do very well in Kazakhstan

00:57:24.710 --> 00:57:28.469
by themselves. Oh, you're probably right. Yeah,

00:57:31.630 --> 00:57:36.789
it's a date. LVX will pay for it. Totally. There

00:57:36.789 --> 00:57:38.349
you go. Yeah, there you guys see. Business right

00:57:38.349 --> 00:57:41.610
off. My expense account is all but ready for

00:57:41.610 --> 00:57:50.130
this. Moving on. Let's save that one for the

00:57:50.130 --> 00:57:53.190
end. And we'll go to the next top -ranked card.

00:57:53.309 --> 00:57:56.489
Same day. This one's going to be... The top -ranked

00:57:56.489 --> 00:57:58.590
in Kazakhstan is going to be starting around

00:57:58.590 --> 00:58:06.070
2 on the West Coast. 2 in the afternoon. Queensberry

00:58:06.070 --> 00:58:11.530
starts at about 11. So, with the way the cards

00:58:11.530 --> 00:58:14.590
line up, you should be getting to the end of

00:58:14.590 --> 00:58:20.570
the Queensberry card. At the time that the end

00:58:20.570 --> 00:58:26.150
of the Kazakhstan card comes up. And then that

00:58:26.150 --> 00:58:30.309
will carry you into... Ah, fuck it. We'll do

00:58:30.309 --> 00:58:32.769
it in the order I have it here. PVC on Prime

00:58:32.769 --> 00:58:37.449
coming from... What is this? Broadmeadow, New

00:58:37.449 --> 00:58:41.130
South Wales. So this one I picked out again.

00:58:41.579 --> 00:58:45.380
Just cherry -picked on my way up. Andre Mikhailovich.

00:58:45.380 --> 00:58:47.340
This is the guy that just fought Johnny Beck.

00:58:47.659 --> 00:58:51.639
So he's fighting on this card at six rounds.

00:58:51.739 --> 00:58:58.420
How the mighty fall. Damn. That's bad. I didn't

00:58:58.420 --> 00:59:01.179
even notice that. I remember when there were

00:59:01.179 --> 00:59:04.579
people making edits of him. Right. You guys remember

00:59:04.579 --> 00:59:07.960
that one edit where that guy was talking shit

00:59:07.960 --> 00:59:12.000
to him? And then you beat them the fuck up. And

00:59:12.000 --> 00:59:14.340
then they got beat up by Jannabek. Yep. Dad.

00:59:16.900 --> 00:59:19.099
Jannabek's is only lost, too. It's really weird

00:59:19.099 --> 00:59:22.739
to go down to six rounds. Let me make sure that's

00:59:22.739 --> 00:59:25.820
not a typo on my part, because I'm very professional.

00:59:25.820 --> 00:59:29.159
No. BoxRec says six rounds. BoxRec has it open.

00:59:29.880 --> 00:59:38.199
Yeah. That's crazy. That is unfortunate. Maybe

00:59:38.199 --> 00:59:41.659
they just couldn't find anybody to fight him.

00:59:42.199 --> 00:59:44.480
Blake Wells is the only one that could step up.

00:59:46.820 --> 00:59:51.199
I have no idea who Blake Wells is. I assume I've

00:59:51.199 --> 00:59:55.659
never seen him before. Let's have a look. 11

00:59:55.659 --> 01:00:01.340
and 2. That's not horrible. He's never fought

01:00:01.340 --> 01:00:09.699
outside of Australia. There you go. That's Andrei

01:00:09.699 --> 01:00:12.820
Mikhailovich. Yeah, I'm guessing this is the

01:00:12.820 --> 01:00:16.300
best they could do. His last two fights were

01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:21.340
at a hotel. At the Pullman. That's not good.

01:00:21.579 --> 01:00:26.780
No. Moving up to Cohen Mazudier versus Dan Hill.

01:00:27.099 --> 01:00:34.639
That's at 154. Mazudier's an Australian 154 guy

01:00:34.639 --> 01:00:39.900
coming up. He's alright. I would say better than

01:00:39.900 --> 01:00:45.340
Cambosos. Honestly. Better. Is he gonna beat

01:00:45.340 --> 01:00:48.760
somebody good? Depends. Are they gonna be in

01:00:48.760 --> 01:00:51.519
the middle of a depressive episode? In the throes

01:00:51.519 --> 01:00:55.300
of bipolar disorder? In the middle of a divorce

01:00:55.300 --> 01:00:58.619
and fucking all kinds of other shit? At the same

01:00:58.619 --> 01:01:01.039
time? Probably not. So he's probably not gonna

01:01:01.039 --> 01:01:07.239
win. Yeah, I don't know if... This guy's not

01:01:07.239 --> 01:01:10.920
that good. No. I'm really trying to jazz this

01:01:10.920 --> 01:01:14.880
one up, but. He lost to Nikita Zoo. That's where

01:01:14.880 --> 01:01:17.840
I saw him. He's not that good. If you guys are

01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:19.760
saying that, I'll go for the underdog and I'll

01:01:19.760 --> 01:01:22.400
root for him. He's going to win. Watch. Oh, I'm

01:01:22.400 --> 01:01:24.739
pretty sure he's going to win this. I think Dan

01:01:24.739 --> 01:01:27.820
Hill is in over his head. But then again. Dan

01:01:27.820 --> 01:01:31.420
Hill has less losses. Oh, well. Then might as

01:01:31.420 --> 01:01:33.340
well be the top of the division at this point.

01:01:34.320 --> 01:01:40.079
Just saying. He's got less losses. He also fought

01:01:40.079 --> 01:01:45.840
at a hotel his last fight. And Tim Zhu versus

01:01:45.840 --> 01:01:51.159
Joey Spencer headlining. Tim Zhu has to look

01:01:51.159 --> 01:01:53.360
really good. Tim Zhu's got to knock him out in

01:01:53.360 --> 01:01:57.260
the first half of the fight. This is a must win

01:01:57.260 --> 01:02:02.059
for Tim Zhu. Not just win, but win really decisively,

01:02:02.139 --> 01:02:07.230
really emphatically. There's no room for error

01:02:07.230 --> 01:02:09.489
right now with Tim Zhu. He's got to win people

01:02:09.489 --> 01:02:13.949
back. Right. Yeah. I saw that Zhu has banned

01:02:13.949 --> 01:02:16.789
his father from attending his fights as well.

01:02:17.570 --> 01:02:21.389
Really? Yeah, they don't get along. They don't

01:02:21.389 --> 01:02:23.329
get along. They were estranged for a long time.

01:02:23.489 --> 01:02:26.429
They had just started talking again, and Costa

01:02:26.429 --> 01:02:30.199
Zhu was at his last fight. But before the fight,

01:02:30.360 --> 01:02:33.380
Kostas Zu said in an interview, I think maybe

01:02:33.380 --> 01:02:36.019
in Russian, that his son wasn't ready for that

01:02:36.019 --> 01:02:40.679
fight and was like really talking shit. And then

01:02:40.679 --> 01:02:44.179
he was ringside and Tim looked like shit. Tim

01:02:44.179 --> 01:02:48.420
always loses when his dad's there. But was Tim

01:02:48.420 --> 01:02:51.519
Zu, he usually works with his uncle, right? Is

01:02:51.519 --> 01:02:57.699
that wrong? I don't think it's uncle. Yeah, I

01:02:57.699 --> 01:03:01.880
don't. I don't know if he works with any of his

01:03:01.880 --> 01:03:04.739
family, but I do know him and his dad have not

01:03:04.739 --> 01:03:08.860
good history. Yeah. And his dad was at the Myrta

01:03:08.860 --> 01:03:13.179
Zalia fight, and Kim Zoo's head was just fucked

01:03:13.179 --> 01:03:17.619
for that fight. He looked bad. A lot of pressure,

01:03:17.840 --> 01:03:22.800
plus the recent events. Yeah. Well, and Kosta

01:03:22.800 --> 01:03:27.239
Zoo is not a supportive father in any... Thing

01:03:27.239 --> 01:03:30.840
I've ever seen so fucking fathers at its finest

01:03:30.840 --> 01:03:36.940
Like real bad. Yeah, I am a hundred percent sure

01:03:36.940 --> 01:03:42.239
that Costanzo had Quite a bit of family problems

01:03:42.239 --> 01:03:48.099
But anyways Tim Tim has banned him from the events

01:03:48.099 --> 01:03:55.420
again, so maybe that will help Yeah, good Joey

01:03:55.420 --> 01:03:57.880
Spencer. I hope Tim looks good. Yeah, I do too.

01:03:57.960 --> 01:04:00.500
Tim looks good. As much as I like to clown on

01:04:00.500 --> 01:04:06.800
him. We need an Australian to clown on. I like

01:04:06.800 --> 01:04:08.599
to clown on him. Yeah, Moses is going away. Because

01:04:08.599 --> 01:04:10.780
he's Australian, that's really the only reason.

01:04:11.079 --> 01:04:15.059
And just because Ruby would get all up in her

01:04:15.059 --> 01:04:20.079
feelings about it whenever I do it. So I'd need

01:04:20.079 --> 01:04:24.980
her to come back. She is so dramatic. I shit

01:04:24.980 --> 01:04:28.559
on Obitai and she gets mad. She gets big mad.

01:04:29.139 --> 01:04:33.519
Oh, yeah. Sometimes she'll come and DM me about

01:04:33.519 --> 01:04:39.380
what dicks you guys are. Oh. Obitai's not the

01:04:39.380 --> 01:04:47.400
greatest, so. I don't know who Joey Spencer is.

01:04:47.760 --> 01:04:52.829
Yeah, you don't. To be honest. He's okay. He's

01:04:52.829 --> 01:04:57.469
from Fenton? He's just been floating around PBC

01:04:57.469 --> 01:05:03.329
cards for a while. So, no surprise here. An appetizer?

01:05:04.269 --> 01:05:08.389
Yeah. They're trying to spin this. He lost to

01:05:08.389 --> 01:05:11.210
Jesus Ramos, if that puts him into any kind of

01:05:11.210 --> 01:05:16.250
perspective. Jesus isn't terrible. No, he's not.

01:05:17.579 --> 01:05:20.800
Other than this is a get -back, this is something

01:05:20.800 --> 01:05:24.119
Tim Zhu really needs. I do not begrudge him taking

01:05:24.119 --> 01:05:26.820
a less -than -stellar opponent for this situation.

01:05:27.719 --> 01:05:29.860
Because Joey Spencer is the kind of guy that

01:05:29.860 --> 01:05:34.039
you could spin as being more than he is. And

01:05:34.039 --> 01:05:37.639
I think that's what's happening here. Yeah, he's

01:05:37.639 --> 01:05:41.679
19 -1. He's got 11 knockouts. On paper, he looks

01:05:41.679 --> 01:05:46.090
decent. They need to build him up to be some

01:05:46.090 --> 01:05:50.030
fearsome enemy so that Tim Zhu can dominate him

01:05:50.030 --> 01:05:53.489
and get his confidence back. At least that's

01:05:53.489 --> 01:05:54.570
what I think is happening. And Joey Spencer gets

01:05:54.570 --> 01:05:57.409
a free trip to Australia. Free trip to Australia.

01:05:57.409 --> 01:06:01.250
Sounds like a win -win. Gets paid. Sounds like

01:06:01.250 --> 01:06:04.789
a good time. Gets to be on TV. Yep. Looking at

01:06:04.789 --> 01:06:06.849
these names, I don't think he's probably been

01:06:06.849 --> 01:06:13.440
on TV before. He has. Oh, maybe at the Armory?

01:06:13.880 --> 01:06:18.159
Yes. When he fought Jesus Ramos, when he fought

01:06:18.159 --> 01:06:24.039
at the Armory after that. Fair enough. I didn't

01:06:24.039 --> 01:06:26.059
go down far enough. I'm just pretty sure that

01:06:26.059 --> 01:06:28.980
the Dort Financial Center in Flint, Michigan

01:06:28.980 --> 01:06:32.679
doesn't broadcast their fights. Or the Linden

01:06:32.679 --> 01:06:35.940
High School. Linden High School? Probably not.

01:06:37.239 --> 01:06:42.860
Dort Financial Center? Yes. That's on DAZN. That

01:06:42.860 --> 01:06:49.019
hardly counts. It counted for me because I watched

01:06:49.019 --> 01:06:59.019
it. Anyways, I hope Tim Zhu looks good. So the

01:06:59.019 --> 01:07:02.619
timeline, Queensberry starting at 11, should

01:07:02.619 --> 01:07:04.460
be wrapping up about the time the main events

01:07:04.460 --> 01:07:08.480
start for Kazakhstan. Kazakhstan card should

01:07:08.480 --> 01:07:12.239
be wrapping up. about the time the televised

01:07:12.239 --> 01:07:15.219
portion like the main card main part of the card

01:07:15.219 --> 01:07:19.300
starts in australia which should be wrapping

01:07:19.300 --> 01:07:23.800
up about the same the main the same time like

01:07:23.800 --> 01:07:26.260
the main card begins for the top ranked card

01:07:26.260 --> 01:07:29.679
in las vegas this is like a prospects delight

01:07:29.679 --> 01:07:38.219
um jahai tucker Art Barrera Jr., fucking DJ Zamora.

01:07:38.360 --> 01:07:43.340
Oh, he doesn't go by DJ anymore. Steve Navarro.

01:07:43.380 --> 01:07:47.039
A lot of these dudes are always on the undercards

01:07:47.039 --> 01:07:50.219
of top rank. What really matters, Abdullah Mason

01:07:50.219 --> 01:07:57.539
versus Carlos Ornelas. Ten rounds at 135. Originally

01:07:57.539 --> 01:08:03.159
Giovanni Cabrera. Really? Yeah, I'm pretty sure

01:08:03.159 --> 01:08:04.900
it was Giovanni Cabrera that dropped out, correct?

01:08:06.059 --> 01:08:07.780
I knew it was a replacement. I didn't know it

01:08:07.780 --> 01:08:11.980
was this one. Am I wrong or am I thinking of

01:08:11.980 --> 01:08:14.219
a different fight? I don't know off the top of

01:08:14.219 --> 01:08:17.260
my head, so you might be right. I remember talking

01:08:17.260 --> 01:08:20.520
to the guys that it was... I mean, for Abdullah

01:08:20.520 --> 01:08:23.060
Mason, that's a really good step up early in

01:08:23.060 --> 01:08:25.640
his career. Because Williams had paid a problem

01:08:25.640 --> 01:08:29.539
last year. That's right. And knocked him out.

01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:33.739
Abdul Mason is, I think, 19 right now. And fighting

01:08:33.739 --> 01:08:37.659
him at that stage, would have been amazing to

01:08:37.659 --> 01:08:39.939
see him knock him out. You know what I mean?

01:08:40.159 --> 01:08:43.119
Yeah. I'll tell you, Abdul Mason is going to

01:08:43.119 --> 01:08:45.199
be the real deal. I'm banking hard on him right

01:08:45.199 --> 01:08:48.880
now. You are right. He was supposed to fight

01:08:48.880 --> 01:08:53.539
Cabrera. That would have been really good. If

01:08:53.539 --> 01:08:55.979
he won, of course. It's boxing, so you never

01:08:55.979 --> 01:09:02.439
know. But it is Giovanni Cabrera. Ornelas isn't

01:09:02.439 --> 01:09:09.600
terrible. I don't recognize his name. Never fought

01:09:09.600 --> 01:09:12.840
outside of Mexico, but considering how big Mexico

01:09:12.840 --> 01:09:17.460
is, doesn't really... Yeah, that doesn't mean

01:09:17.460 --> 01:09:20.020
as much as never fighting outside of Australia

01:09:20.020 --> 01:09:23.020
or Thailand or something. Yeah, it's different.

01:09:25.079 --> 01:09:33.260
He's okay. He probably has good pop. Yeah. Right.

01:09:33.500 --> 01:09:38.239
Depends why, I don't know. Four losses, three

01:09:38.239 --> 01:09:47.199
losses by KO. He's 15 for 28 on stoppages. Okay.

01:09:48.060 --> 01:09:52.300
I kind of expect Abdullah to knock him out. Yeah,

01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:55.100
that's what I'm expecting as well. Pretty easily

01:09:55.100 --> 01:09:58.960
as well. It's all right. Abdullah Mason looking

01:09:58.960 --> 01:10:03.359
awesome is always a good thing in my book. Okay,

01:10:03.479 --> 01:10:08.460
help me out with Spanish again. So Carlos Ornelas,

01:10:08.539 --> 01:10:13.340
his alias is Chinito. Because in Japanese, chin

01:10:13.340 --> 01:10:17.340
means penis. So that's a little penis if I mix

01:10:17.340 --> 01:10:20.859
my two languages together. I'm going to be able

01:10:20.859 --> 01:10:23.220
to bleep myself on this. So El Chinito is like

01:10:23.220 --> 01:10:25.560
calling somebody like the little Chinese person,

01:10:25.659 --> 01:10:28.649
the little ****. Because they got almond eyes.

01:10:28.670 --> 01:10:31.670
That was my other guess. He does. That's all

01:10:31.670 --> 01:10:36.130
it is. Take a distinctive feature and make it

01:10:36.130 --> 01:10:38.649
your nickname. That's getting on the Patreon

01:10:38.649 --> 01:10:41.350
right there. Yeah. It's the only place you'll

01:10:41.350 --> 01:10:45.949
hear that. It just made me laugh because in Japanese,

01:10:46.250 --> 01:10:50.689
chin is penis. Yes. So, small penis. I'm going

01:10:50.689 --> 01:10:54.319
to use that with my Japanese friend. Well, the

01:10:54.319 --> 01:10:56.479
Ito is Spanish, though, so he probably won't

01:10:56.479 --> 01:11:03.279
get it. Oh, that's a lot of good boxing talk

01:11:03.279 --> 01:11:05.020
right there. Yeah, I know. We'll see how much

01:11:05.020 --> 01:11:07.699
of that ends up. Sorry. No, it's fine. We can

01:11:07.699 --> 01:11:10.039
get back on topic. Richard Torres. No, I like

01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:18.859
his dick talk. It's nice. After doing that one

01:11:18.859 --> 01:11:20.800
and a half hours of boxing talk, you have some

01:11:20.800 --> 01:11:26.140
willy talk. Willie Pep. Willie Pep. There you

01:11:26.140 --> 01:11:31.060
go. There you go. All right. It's fucking Richard

01:11:31.060 --> 01:11:34.840
Torres versus Guido Vianello in the main event.

01:11:36.939 --> 01:11:41.920
It's a 10 -rounder. How quickly does Richard

01:11:41.920 --> 01:11:46.699
Torres stop him? I'm banking on a stoppage, and

01:11:46.699 --> 01:11:49.579
I'm thinking it's going to be a bit late. I was

01:11:49.579 --> 01:11:53.590
just thinking five. Yeah. Fifth round. I'm going

01:11:53.590 --> 01:11:58.430
to bet on it goes to Decision. Wow. Not because

01:11:58.430 --> 01:12:03.869
he's not good, but I don't know. Isn't the guy

01:12:03.869 --> 01:12:08.710
ranked on BoxRec like 78? Guido? Yeah, Guido.

01:12:09.270 --> 01:12:13.449
You might look on his BoxRec. He's ranked 78.

01:12:15.949 --> 01:12:18.869
You might have the wrong Guido. Yeah, he's 25.

01:12:20.239 --> 01:12:22.979
Oh, he's 25? Yeah. Oh, shit. It's even crazier.

01:12:23.199 --> 01:12:24.720
Richard Torres is... What's his record, then?

01:12:25.220 --> 01:12:31.960
He is 13 -2 -1. Okay, well, how did he lose the

01:12:31.960 --> 01:12:36.199
two times? One by knockout, one by split decision.

01:12:36.460 --> 01:12:40.800
It was a close decision to FA at Jogba. Oh. Oh,

01:12:40.800 --> 01:12:42.479
okay. No, I'd say it's probably a different Guido,

01:12:42.539 --> 01:12:46.079
then. There is a surprising amount of Guidos

01:12:46.079 --> 01:12:50.039
that box. Yeah. I did not know it was a name.

01:12:50.119 --> 01:12:52.640
I didn't either. Until recently. Like, I always

01:12:52.640 --> 01:12:55.720
heard it as a slur. But it's just a first name

01:12:55.720 --> 01:13:00.779
in Italy. We do. Yeah. In North America, it's

01:13:00.779 --> 01:13:02.920
a slur. In Italy, it's a first name. Like, a

01:13:02.920 --> 01:13:06.579
very common first name. Yeah. Like, calling all

01:13:06.579 --> 01:13:10.260
Mexicans Jose, I guess. That's like cat by family

01:13:10.260 --> 01:13:16.930
right there, though. Just saying. Richard Torres,

01:13:17.229 --> 01:13:24.270
12 -2 -0. Of those 12 wins, 11 by knockout. Some

01:13:24.270 --> 01:13:29.029
of them have been against scrubbity scrubs. Most

01:13:29.029 --> 01:13:31.550
of them have been against pretty scrubs. Yeah.

01:13:31.970 --> 01:13:35.970
One of them is going to be fighting Wilder. Who's

01:13:35.970 --> 01:13:42.210
fighting Wilder? Henderson? I don't know who

01:13:42.210 --> 01:13:45.130
it is, but it's nobody that they kind of dug

01:13:45.130 --> 01:13:49.810
up for him. Yeah. I mean, that's how Wilder's

01:13:49.810 --> 01:13:53.770
doing with that. I don't know if Richard Torres

01:13:53.770 --> 01:13:57.810
is going to be among the elite, but he'll be

01:13:57.810 --> 01:14:00.670
in the contention for the title every now and

01:14:00.670 --> 01:14:03.270
then, probably in the future. I like Richard

01:14:03.270 --> 01:14:06.670
Torres. I do, too. I like him, too. He's a pretty

01:14:06.670 --> 01:14:10.329
good guy. I follow him on Instagram. He seems

01:14:10.329 --> 01:14:14.689
nice. Yeah. He takes dance lessons. It's very

01:14:14.689 --> 01:14:21.550
cute. Tap recitals. Every once in a while, he

01:14:21.550 --> 01:14:23.850
puts up videos of him practicing his tap dancing.

01:14:24.229 --> 01:14:27.069
You know who else was a tap dancer? Gregory Robinson.

01:14:27.909 --> 01:14:32.329
Really? Tap? Yeah. I didn't know that. I always

01:14:32.329 --> 01:14:34.449
say the Cubans have such nice footwork because

01:14:34.449 --> 01:14:37.710
they do salsa. Salsa is some complicated footwork.

01:14:38.579 --> 01:14:41.100
Yeah, that's pretty good reasoning right there.

01:14:42.020 --> 01:14:43.619
Richard Torres looks like you could place him

01:14:43.619 --> 01:14:45.319
in the late 80s, early 90s and put him against

01:14:45.319 --> 01:14:49.680
George Foreman. Yep, 100%. I don't know, it just

01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:51.460
reminds me of that every time I see him. He looks

01:14:51.460 --> 01:14:54.220
like a typical, like, top -ranked 90s fighter.

01:14:55.159 --> 01:14:58.880
He kind of looks like a bunch of my dad's friends

01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:03.460
in the 80s. Like, you could sepia him a little

01:15:03.460 --> 01:15:06.239
and put him in those pictures. It would be perfect.

01:15:06.539 --> 01:15:14.079
He needs to buy bell bottoms. So, like, 80s brown

01:15:14.079 --> 01:15:19.119
bell bottoms with, like, a jacket and shit. Be

01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:25.239
good. Well, anything more for the ape day? I'm

01:15:25.239 --> 01:15:27.659
excited. I'm going to have to stay awake from,

01:15:27.699 --> 01:15:32.720
like, 2 a .m. to fucking 2 p .m., though, which

01:15:32.720 --> 01:15:37.420
is hard. Worth it. Worth it. I guess. I'll do

01:15:37.420 --> 01:15:41.939
it, but it's hard for me. I'm old. Oh, speaking

01:15:41.939 --> 01:15:45.319
of staying up all night, I just got a text from

01:15:45.319 --> 01:15:50.640
my Japanese, my old man, Japan Bar, and they're

01:15:50.640 --> 01:15:55.039
like, okay, guys, there's times for the Inoue

01:15:55.039 --> 01:15:58.920
fights in May. Who wants a seat? I was like,

01:15:58.979 --> 01:16:03.380
Jesus fuck. So, yeah, yeah, yeah, I already saved

01:16:03.380 --> 01:16:07.079
a seat. so i'm good but and they're like yeah

01:16:07.079 --> 01:16:09.699
usual time which i think the usual time american

01:16:09.699 --> 01:16:13.300
cards usually start about 2 a .m here so i'm

01:16:13.300 --> 01:16:16.840
just gonna have to go to tokyo and spend the

01:16:16.840 --> 01:16:22.739
night at the bar oh no it's a whole night yeah

01:16:22.739 --> 01:16:26.979
being away from my own bed overnight it's not

01:16:26.979 --> 01:16:29.960
very fun And then you got to ride that first

01:16:29.960 --> 01:16:33.020
train with all the super drunk kids on Sunday

01:16:33.020 --> 01:16:44.619
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01:18:00.979 --> 01:18:08.239
into Ape Day. Parting words. Is the weather getting

01:18:08.239 --> 01:18:11.739
nice in America yet? Is it warming up? It's getting...

01:18:11.739 --> 01:18:14.500
It's already starting to become insufferable

01:18:14.500 --> 01:18:18.699
here. But I also... You're in Arizona. Yeah,

01:18:19.899 --> 01:18:23.380
it's also getting warm here. Where am I? It's

01:18:23.380 --> 01:18:28.920
pretty cold. Go do something outside is my parting

01:18:28.920 --> 01:18:31.260
words. Go for a walk. I'm gonna go cook outside

01:18:31.260 --> 01:18:36.159
again. That's what I'm gonna do. Are you cooking

01:18:36.159 --> 01:18:40.199
ramen? No, not this time. Setting you up for

01:18:40.199 --> 01:18:45.020
an advertisement slot. Yeah, I do use the products

01:18:45.020 --> 01:18:47.500
that I advertise. That's the whole fucking point.

01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:50.220
You're so bad at these, Leo. I know. I set you

01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:53.020
up all the time. Oh, well, let me hold up the

01:18:53.020 --> 01:18:55.399
bag that I just so happen to have with me. You

01:18:55.399 --> 01:19:01.399
can use the dried egg and the beef mix, and it

01:19:01.399 --> 01:19:04.960
makes for a really good, rich, and hearty broth.

01:19:08.579 --> 01:19:12.899
I'm terrible. All right. Well, Alex, you got

01:19:12.899 --> 01:19:16.300
anything? I have a barbecue for apetite. Enjoy

01:19:16.300 --> 01:19:18.500
it. You got to wait till the following week.

01:19:18.899 --> 01:19:23.659
Oh, it's coming up soon. We'll talk about the

01:19:23.659 --> 01:19:29.319
next podcast. For sure. I am going to quote big

01:19:29.319 --> 01:19:32.500
George Foreman here. Heroes always have their

01:19:32.500 --> 01:19:34.840
scars. Some you can see, some you read about

01:19:34.840 --> 01:19:40.250
later on. I just thought that was nice. We haven't

01:19:40.250 --> 01:19:45.810
had a memorial yet, huh? Not here. Oh, shit.

01:19:47.909 --> 01:19:52.590
Rest in peace, Big Torch Foreman. You know. He

01:19:52.590 --> 01:19:54.989
was one of the greatest of all time. He really

01:19:54.989 --> 01:20:00.489
was. Here's another good one that I found of

01:20:00.489 --> 01:20:04.699
his just now. Sure, the fight was fixed. I fixed

01:20:04.699 --> 01:20:09.079
it with the right hand. Fucking baller ass. That

01:20:09.079 --> 01:20:12.600
was good. I think George has some great one -liners.

01:20:13.100 --> 01:20:17.659
Oh, yeah. All right. Well, with that, we're out

01:20:17.659 --> 01:20:34.739
of here. See you next time. Bye. welcome to the

01:20:34.739 --> 01:20:37.560
fucking show all right just a quick blurb uh

01:20:37.560 --> 01:20:39.140
just so you can get back to what you were doing

01:20:39.140 --> 01:20:45.600
uh why would a boxing fan let's just let's assume

01:20:45.600 --> 01:20:48.939
assume they're like a purist or some shit why

01:20:48.939 --> 01:20:51.899
would they want to watch mma why would they want

01:20:51.899 --> 01:20:54.979
to listen to an mma show i'm going to come out

01:20:54.979 --> 01:20:58.819
this from sort of like a primal level so i will

01:20:58.819 --> 01:21:02.840
admit there are like some very unique and like

01:21:02.840 --> 01:21:06.199
stark differences between mma and boxing and

01:21:06.199 --> 01:21:08.899
it seems like one of the main things that uh

01:21:08.899 --> 01:21:12.399
keeps boxing fans away from mma is the grappling

01:21:12.399 --> 01:21:16.220
aspect and yes sometimes it can be you know a

01:21:16.220 --> 01:21:19.180
lay and pray uh type of fight and it can get

01:21:19.180 --> 01:21:24.640
old but man like it's just instinctual man some

01:21:24.640 --> 01:21:28.140
of these people the way they find an mma Is just

01:21:28.140 --> 01:21:29.859
brutal. And I feel like that's what it comes

01:21:29.859 --> 01:21:31.640
down to. When it comes to being a combat fan.

01:21:31.859 --> 01:21:36.960
A combat sports fan. I mean. We saw just recently.

01:21:38.239 --> 01:21:42.659
Mauricio Rufi. Versus Bobby Green. Spinning back.

01:21:42.819 --> 01:21:48.220
Or spinning a wheel kick. Man. I mean they went

01:21:48.220 --> 01:21:50.659
viral. And it's something that everyone can appreciate.

01:21:50.800 --> 01:21:53.819
Even boxing fans. I know a few. I have a few

01:21:53.819 --> 01:21:57.439
friends that are boxing fans. who I sent him

01:21:57.439 --> 01:22:01.680
that clip. I mean, and they were amazed. One

01:22:01.680 --> 01:22:03.899
even told me that they wish they would have seen

01:22:03.899 --> 01:22:07.619
it live because seeing that type of stuff live

01:22:07.619 --> 01:22:12.979
just elicits a euphoric feeling that you can't

01:22:12.979 --> 01:22:14.659
get. I mean, it happens in boxing, too, whenever

01:22:14.659 --> 01:22:17.819
you see an amazing fight. But I just got to say,

01:22:17.859 --> 01:22:22.779
in MMA, you get those type of fights as well,

01:22:22.899 --> 01:22:25.970
just in a different type. It's different, but

01:22:25.970 --> 01:22:29.329
sort of the same. It's sort of weird how I describe

01:22:29.329 --> 01:22:32.050
it, but it's different, but the same. It comes

01:22:32.050 --> 01:22:34.470
down to that same like carnal or primal instinct

01:22:34.470 --> 01:22:39.550
of just like fights. Yeah, I always think like

01:22:39.550 --> 01:22:43.270
the biggest, the easiest transition that I always

01:22:43.270 --> 01:22:45.930
recommend, I say this all the time on Ultimate

01:22:45.930 --> 01:22:50.850
Fucking Casuals, is if you're not too keen on

01:22:50.850 --> 01:22:55.220
the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing. are

01:22:55.220 --> 01:22:57.960
exactly where you want to start. Like, you start

01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:00.100
working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,

01:23:00.319 --> 01:23:04.779
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to

01:23:04.779 --> 01:23:07.479
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,

01:23:07.579 --> 01:23:12.020
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it

01:23:12.020 --> 01:23:14.319
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends

01:23:14.319 --> 01:23:16.300
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's

01:23:16.300 --> 01:23:19.520
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah. Yeah,

01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:21.380
no, yeah, you're true. I mean, you're right.

01:23:21.689 --> 01:23:24.229
But, man, some of these grapplers, man, these

01:23:24.229 --> 01:23:27.369
scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty crazy

01:23:27.369 --> 01:23:29.890
just to see it. Like, you know, rolling around

01:23:29.890 --> 01:23:32.109
the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff that

01:23:32.109 --> 01:23:33.670
they're doing in between the scrambles. I mean,

01:23:33.670 --> 01:23:36.229
it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone over, the

01:23:36.229 --> 01:23:38.989
trips. I mean, it can be fun. But, yeah, you're

01:23:38.989 --> 01:23:41.329
right. The easiest transition is definitely start

01:23:41.329 --> 01:23:44.029
out with Muay Thai, kickboxing, and, you know,

01:23:44.069 --> 01:23:46.970
slowly work your way into MMA. And, you know,

01:23:47.069 --> 01:23:49.810
this is the thing about the ultimate fucking

01:23:49.810 --> 01:23:52.699
casuals. We will let you know which fights are

01:23:52.699 --> 01:23:55.979
going to be good. Which ones, you know, if you're

01:23:55.979 --> 01:23:58.560
not too in tune with the grappling, we can get

01:23:58.560 --> 01:24:03.920
maybe a little tag or a little asterisk on certain

01:24:03.920 --> 01:24:06.319
fights saying, like, this is a boxing purist

01:24:06.319 --> 01:24:09.079
type of fight. You can watch this and enjoy this.

01:24:10.140 --> 01:24:13.060
Like, we'll let you know. Yeah, we always try.

01:24:13.600 --> 01:24:16.500
Like, I came into this. The whole show was started

01:24:16.500 --> 01:24:19.609
with me. I didn't know shit. about MMA I'd never

01:24:19.609 --> 01:24:22.829
really seen an MMA fight in its entirety in my

01:24:22.829 --> 01:24:25.590
entire life and I came into this with nothing

01:24:25.590 --> 01:24:28.409
and yeah that's where we're at now is like we're

01:24:28.409 --> 01:24:31.970
talking like I make sure I go out of my way to

01:24:31.970 --> 01:24:35.029
bring up Muay Thai and bring up kickboxing so

01:24:35.029 --> 01:24:38.489
that people know like this for boxing fans to

01:24:38.489 --> 01:24:41.449
know this is what this is where you can start

01:24:41.449 --> 01:24:46.029
all right well yeah that was about it um I really

01:24:46.029 --> 01:24:49.180
appreciate your time Thanks, Isaac, for jumping

01:24:49.180 --> 01:24:51.699
on real quick. Thanks for having me on. All right.