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you want? Seriously, what more do you want? Let

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me know. The B -side in boxing. B -side shit.

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B -side. B -side. And the B -side. Don't brag

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about taking my side piece. Don't brag about

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taking my side piece. That B -side thing. This

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is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast. I left with his

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belt and his girl. Oh, man. You know, I think

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the name came together really nicely. Boxing

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Before Dark. yeah i think we're cooking with

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something here but the internet has ruined me

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did you notice what the bbd i did yeah i yeah

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i thought about it from side pieces to bbds yeah

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i i saw it and i thought about it i'm like you

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know what i i don't care i'm going with it yeah

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it's it'll be part of the charm it made me laugh

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it's all good boxing before dark uh I was going

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to put that on there to set up a formal introduction

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at some point. Man, I got to do an interview

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today and it was really fucking cool. It was

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with an author. His name is Clay Risen. He wrote

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this book called Red Scare. It's a book about

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McCarthyism and how it's starting to crop back

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up. McCarthyism for the uninitiated. It's like

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back in the 40s and 50s after post -World War

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II. there was the immediate aftermath where being

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a communist was like being the devil, pretty

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much. So that's what McCarthyism, that term means,

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like the witch hunt for alleged communists or

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alleged gay people and vilifying and driving

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them out of public life. Sorry, I thought I recognized

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his name. Is he the guy who writes about bourbon?

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Yes. I completely forgot to ask him about that.

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As soon as we hung up, I was like, shit, he has

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like five fucking books on bourbon. I need to

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ask him about this. I will say that's the one

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thing I am slightly missing. It's not that it

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makes any difference in Japan, but I have also

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not been buying the American alcohols out of

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solidarity. I miss bourbon. Nobody makes bourbon

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like the Americans. Yeah, that's our thing. they

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don't the japanese or not the irish or scott

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scottish god what's wrong with me um they don't

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call it scotch everyone else does because it's

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yeah they just call it single malt or whatever

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yeah and well canada does have some smaller brewer

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distilleries i guess um that are making bourbon

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like drinks they have to call them bourbon like

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bourbons made in america yeah if it doesn't come

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from the bourbon region of kentucky uh then it's

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just corn whiskey yeah spicy corn water yeah

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yeah that's i can't fucking stand people that

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do that they're all pedantic like that I finally,

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this even hurts more because I finally found

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a bottle of Blanton's to buy, which is my favorite.

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It's fucking expensive now. I'm going to sound

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like such a hipster douche, but I found it when

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it was still cheap and now they've gotten popular.

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It's like $200 a bottle. Okay, what? Yeah, I

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won't be buying it anyways, boycott or not. Don't

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recall. I think the most I've ever spent on a

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single bottle is like $120. I bought gift bottles

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that were $200. Like birthday, anniversary, whatever.

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But yeah, no. Not usually. Well, Red Scare from

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the bourbon guy. That'll be coming out. Part

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of the Lux Media family, Progressive Patriots.

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going to be the first episode in like two months.

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So, whatevs. You're getting all the other podcasts

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rolling again. I'm trying to. Try my best. One

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last push, I suppose. The one card in Tokyo.

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Did you end up catching it? Well, everything

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except the main event. I was watching it at work

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and I ran out of time. But the one card seemed

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a lot more fun. than other MMA. There's way less

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wrestle fucking. Yeah. I do not like the UFC.

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The one card was really fun. The atmosphere was

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good. The one kid came out dressed as Luffy from

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One Piece. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah, he's real

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tall and skinny. I don't know anybody's name.

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I know who you're talking about. Yeah. He looked

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like Fundora, but Asian. That's... Exactly what

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I was thinking as I was watching him. He's like,

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he's six foot four fights at 135. Like, man,

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you've got plenty of weight classes to go. Yeah,

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I missed the main, but I did see that Rod Tang

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just destroyed that kid. What I'm told from like

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somebody who's a little bit, Zoe, I think it

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was, he's a little bit more in depth with. the

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MMA stuff than I am. It was that Takeru, the

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Japanese kickboxer, he had been still doing hard

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sparring up to like a week, week and a half before

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the fight. And he had a lingering injury that

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he didn't disclose. If you're injured, pull out

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of the fight or no excuses. Right. If you walk

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out, you don't have any excuses. I also just

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really like Rod Tang, so I wasn't too sad. He's

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a fucking monster. Yeah, Rod Tang. In the co

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-main, the guy, the very slender man, his name

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is Nibel Anan. He's, I think, like, Thai and

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Algerian or something. I don't know. I think

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that's what they were saying. But he fought Superlek,

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who's another Muay Thai. I recognize that name.

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Yeah, he's a Muay Thai monster as well. I think

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that he's called like the kicking machine or

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something. And that is like where who the fuck

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is this? This is not super like he looks like

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lethargic. Well, he must be old now. He's about

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30. Really? Which is old when you're doing Muay

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Thai. Yeah, but I hadn't realized he was that

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young. Because Luffy guy is like 20 or 21. How

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old is Rod Tang? Rod Tang must actually be old.

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He's older for sure. I think he's going to be

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finding his way out of the sport kind of soon.

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So enjoy him while you can. Rod Tang's 27? Is

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he? He looks old as shit. Is Rod Tang his real

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name? Like he's Rod Tang Jitmongnong or something?

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Yeah, the last name. It's his gym or his sponsor

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or whatever. Okay, but I mean, like, I haven't

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found the wrong guy. Yeah, that's the right one.

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He's 27. No fucking way. He looks like he's 37.

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Well, I thought he'd been fighting for like 10

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years. He very well may have. They start really

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young there. That's crazy. I thought he was older

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than me for sure, which would make him ancient.

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But I guess not. I think that they still have

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the mileage on them, and that's why they may

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seem older than they are. Yeah. Yeah. That is

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surprising. Anyways, yeah, you've been telling

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me to try the one instead of UFC, and it does

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look way more fun. Yeah. I also have decided,

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now that I've seen all my boxers, I should...

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go to either a one card or a rising card in japan

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the crowd seems more fun rising i think would

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be more just because it's a lot more homegrown

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yeah well and i might meet some low -class friends

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yeah boxing is for the businessmen boxing is

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fairly high class elite kind of stuff in tokyo

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that's the feel it has there's There's people

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scattered around, but it feels fancy, which is

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weird. It is. I have always heard it called the

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gentleman's sport. Yeah, but that's not really

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true. No, that doesn't make a lot of sense. Exactly.

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Like thinking of Tijuana ballroom or bar rooms,

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not ballrooms. Maybe it is a ballroom. Who knows?

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Or like. The British cards, it does not seem

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like it's the gentlemen that are showing up to

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watch. No, it's the hooligans. But yeah, no,

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the one I do not like mixed martial arts, but

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that one card seemed pretty fun. I have a little

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thing that I did with Isaac. We have a little

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cross promo thing that I play at the end of the

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boxing shows, which is like what? What would

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you tell a boxing fan, like a purist type of

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mentality? What can they get out of watching

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one FC UFC? UFC has got too much wrestling in

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it now for me. It's not, not fun. Even the strikers,

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they, they wrestle a lot, but the kickboxing,

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there's no wrestling when they fall down, they

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stand them back up. Usually. Yeah. Yeah. So,

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yeah. It's stand -up fighting with kicks, which

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is fun. And the kicks are super impressive sometimes.

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There was one guy on there. His name was Jonathan

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DiBella. He's a smaller weight class, but his

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boxing is super crisp. Usually, whenever you're

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talking about... MMA guy or kickboxing or whatever

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and you say oh their boxing is really good and

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usually they're pretty sloppy they just have

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like a decent jab or it's just really basic fundamentals

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but DiBella is really good if he could plant

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his feet you could very well be looking at a

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boxer right there very few that get that acclaim

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from me I've, I think I've only got two, three

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that I've ever, Jonathan DeBell is three, three

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of three. But yeah, I tell everybody if you're

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trying, if you want to get into more combat sports

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and you're a boxing head, Muay Thai is the, Muay

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Thai, kickboxing is the easiest alternative to

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start with because it's, it's boxing, but with

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kicks added. And then Muay Thai. Yeah, because

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they wear, like, boxing -style gloves, too, so

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there can't be any grappling. Right. And then

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if you want to move a little further, Muay Thai,

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they add the elbows and the knees. And they can

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do a little bit of clinching, but you have to

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be actively working in a clinch, or else they'll

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split you up. And they still stand them up when

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they get thrown. Right. If there's, like, trips

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or pushes or anything that you stand up immediately,

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like, they do still have the 10 -count knockdown.

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But it has to be a very clear and obvious knockdown.

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A usual technique is like in Muay Thai, they

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throw a kick and it gets caught. And as they're

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holding it, they throw a punch over the top.

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And then that usually sends the guy down. And

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that's like a knockdown. Yeah, because my biggest

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problem with mixed martial arts is the ground

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game. I just find it boring as fuck. And there

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are submission grappling competitions on 1FC,

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which is just pure grappling. And it's paradoxical

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because I have the same problem with ground game

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stuff in UFC. But submission grappling, it's

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like watching master chefs cook. Yeah, I say

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this all the time when I'm making arguments with

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people. Grappling is like soccer. I'm sure it

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takes a whole bunch of skill. I sure as hell

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couldn't do it. People love it. It's super popular.

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I think it's boring as hell to watch. Yeah. You're

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either going to get it or you don't. You can

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be brought onto it, but you've got to be... You've

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got to want it or it's not going to happen. Because

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it can be pretty homoerotic. Very. which i'm

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not against i love reading homoerotic comics

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but watching it on tv is weird yeah not quite

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my thing oh man the big news deep sigh george

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foreman uh we mentioned it the last time uh just

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kind of in passing that an acknowledgement but

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holy cow looking into his life this I didn't

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realize how much he had transcended the sport.

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Yeah. George Foreman was a phenomenon for a while,

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and I hadn't realized he had multiple TV shows.

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Really? He had, like, it's only one season. I

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think it got canceled pretty quick. But Family

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Foreman was him and his family, but, like, a

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scripted TV show. And there was also one just

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called George. that was a sitcom as well scripted

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family show so yeah it's like a sitcom like but

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with all his kids i never watched it but it it

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looks like it was written kind of like sanford

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and sons maybe did you remember that one yeah

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but like him and all his kids yeah so i didn't

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know Big George had a TV show. That one was from

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2008. And then his other TV show, I think, came

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before that. Yeah, he had a TV show in the 90s

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when he was doing his comeback. That's about

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the time he had his infomercial series as well.

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Yeah. When he did all his grill stuff. Yeah.

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Oh, man. The George Foreman KO boxing video game.

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I had that on Sega Genesis. It was not very good.

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It was hard. It was a good, like a spiritual

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successor to Mike Tyson's Punch Out. It did have

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that similar level of difficulty. Yeah, I always

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think that people have forgotten how scary George

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Foreman was in his first run. Like, there's a

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few interviews and... I meant to go find the

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clip, but there's one where it's old George talking

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about his mindset in his first heavyweight run.

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And he's like, I hated how nobody respected me,

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nobody liked me. And he said, well, if I kill

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one of these guys, then they'll have to respect

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me. Oh, boy. One of those. But it's old George's,

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like, happy, friendly voice. But it just... Like,

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even George trying to not be scary was a little

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scary. His first professional loss was to Muhammad

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Ali. And the little blurb thing that Serial's

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putting together, I had mentioned that even though

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he was on the losing side of it, he still, like,

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cemented himself as the... one of the greats

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to hang with Ali like that. Yeah. Bop and Joe

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Frazier, who... Was undefeated. I didn't know

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that Joe Frazier was undefeated at the time.

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That makes that win a whole lot crazier. When

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Big George entered the scene, he shocked a lot

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of people. I don't think anybody really expected

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him to be that good in the professionals that

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quickly. 76 -5. That is unbelievable. I remember

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watching George Foreman vs. Evander Holyfield.

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uh i think i saw michael moorer i've watched

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that fight a couple times and he's so crafty

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in it and i don't know how much of it is true

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i do feel like george might rewrite history slightly

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in some of his storytelling but uh he In interviews

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afterwards, he's like, I was only throwing my

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punches at about 60%, waiting for just the right

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time to hit him. Like, let him get confident

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that he can take my punches, that I'm just an

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old man and I don't hit like I used to, and wear

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him down and wear him down. And he's like, I

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had to pick the perfect time to throw that one

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big punch, because if I let him know the trick

00:18:07.930 --> 00:18:11.509
too soon, he would get cautious and I'd never

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get a second chance. That stepping uppercut that

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he would do, that's immediately what comes to

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mind. The Jerry Clooney? Yeah. That is the most

00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:26.500
casual knockout ever performed in a boxing ring.

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What I didn't watch, what I meant to watch before

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we chatted today, was the loss to Shannon Briggs.

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Because he was almost 49 years old at the time.

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And Shannon Briggs is... Not that good. Yeah,

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but age is a factor, man. It still took him to

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a majority decision. That is pretty nuts. That

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raises a lot of question marks, Shannon. It's

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not very canon -like behavior. Yeah, man. I guess

00:19:01.900 --> 00:19:04.990
he'd been sick. I don't think they had told anybody,

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but this was apparently not a surprise to his

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family at all. And now that I think about it,

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we haven't had any new Big George stuff in quite

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a few years. True. Even at his late age, Ali

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was still going around doing stuff. He was very

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clearly in bad shape. But I saw him, no kidding,

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he was at a... My first like official date with

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my then girlfriend, the one that went to Vegas

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with me, we went to this little jazz festival

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and they they like stopped everything to let

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Muhammad Ali walk up to his private box. Nice.

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Yeah, it was I was like, holy shit. And then

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she didn't know anything about boxing. It's like,

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who what are you talking about? Do you not know

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who that is? How do you not know who Muhammad

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Ali is? Once I said the name, of course. Right,

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oh, she just didn't recognize him. Yeah, she

00:20:09.299 --> 00:20:12.099
had no idea what he actually looked like. I can

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see that. Especially an older, sick Ali didn't

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really look like Ali anymore. He was in rough

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shape. I expect that George just stayed home

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to kind of not tarnish that big legacy. Yeah,

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I heard a rumor. I don't know how confident you

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can be in it, but that he'd had a few strokes.

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So I wonder if he really wanted to kind of hide

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that and remain the big George Foreman, not,

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you know, some guy who was having trouble walking

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anymore. Right, because his whole face and he'd

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be slurring all his words. I can imagine he'd

00:21:02.759 --> 00:21:07.039
want to save face a little bit. I haven't seen

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that from any really good media, but I've seen

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a couple rumors online. And that would make sense

00:21:14.240 --> 00:21:17.839
too, I think. Yeah, wouldn't be too surprising.

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But we have talked about Big George and not making

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fun of the fact that he named... All his kids,

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George. How the fuck do you do that? Yeah, I

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think even the girls are like Georgette or something

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like that. One of them is Georgina, and then

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the other girl had a regular name, the one that

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boxed. He had a kid that boxed? Yeah, one of

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his daughters was female heavyweight champ. Was

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it Georgina that boxed or the other one? I don't

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know. I didn't know any of his kids did. I knew

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one of his sons did, but... I think his dad talked

00:21:55.660 --> 00:21:59.660
him out of it after a little while. Frida? I

00:21:59.660 --> 00:22:03.799
think it's Frida that boxed. I think it was Frida.

00:22:03.839 --> 00:22:07.440
I don't think Georgetta boxed. It's whichever

00:22:07.440 --> 00:22:13.720
of the girls is dead. Oh. But that's not super

00:22:13.720 --> 00:22:22.279
helpful. Good lord. Because there was for a little

00:22:22.279 --> 00:22:26.319
while talk that she was going to fight Ali's

00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:33.500
daughter. Layla. That's right. Yeah. Yeah, it's

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Frida Foreman. And I'm pretty sure she was a

00:22:36.460 --> 00:22:40.960
champion in the early days of women's boxing.

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All I can find are articles on her death, though,

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because of course that's all I can find. All

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of his kids are named George. I mean, a modern

00:22:53.619 --> 00:22:57.259
version is the Gary Antoine Russell or the Gary

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Russells. There's like five of them, three of

00:23:02.319 --> 00:23:05.000
them box. All of them have the first name Gary.

00:23:05.779 --> 00:23:10.140
It's so weird. It's got to be so weird at home.

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Like they must go by their middle names. You

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got to. You have to. I would, if I had, I would

00:23:18.420 --> 00:23:22.380
have liked to name one of my sons after me, but

00:23:22.380 --> 00:23:26.640
that was, it would just be one. I'm like, I'm

00:23:26.640 --> 00:23:30.940
not going to. Yeah. Frida Foreman's middle name

00:23:30.940 --> 00:23:41.140
was George. Well done. Can't not do it. I am

00:23:41.140 --> 00:23:45.099
wrong. She never had any of the belts. No? No.

00:23:48.950 --> 00:23:51.849
I did not realize her middle name was George.

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I didn't either. It makes me think that the other

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one is also... Oh, she's Georgetta. Yeah, that's

00:24:01.670 --> 00:24:07.950
right. Is she Georgetta George Foreman? Because

00:24:07.950 --> 00:24:13.210
that would be madness. Man, anything more for

00:24:13.210 --> 00:24:17.579
George? I don't think so. I think... People with

00:24:17.579 --> 00:24:22.119
much more time on their hands have gone over

00:24:22.119 --> 00:24:25.900
his career really well. But to me, George Foreman's

00:24:25.900 --> 00:24:27.759
always just going to be more the inspirational

00:24:27.759 --> 00:24:32.359
guy than anything else. Yeah. I had always wanted

00:24:32.359 --> 00:24:34.819
a George Foreman grill just because it was George

00:24:34.819 --> 00:24:40.460
Foreman's. But I never got one as much as I asked

00:24:40.460 --> 00:24:43.759
for one. Then when I got to my first duty station

00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:46.099
in the military, I might have told this one.

00:24:46.299 --> 00:24:49.440
bit already but that was like that was the hot

00:24:49.440 --> 00:24:52.839
commodity was having a george foreman grill in

00:24:52.839 --> 00:24:56.880
your room because yeah if everyone got a microwave

00:24:56.880 --> 00:25:01.200
by default but zapping everything is not very

00:25:01.200 --> 00:25:06.000
fun you can't microwave a steak right it's exactly

00:25:06.000 --> 00:25:10.720
right and so sometimes like fridays saturdays

00:25:10.720 --> 00:25:14.019
and sundays you'll smell like steaks and chicken

00:25:14.019 --> 00:25:17.549
and stuff going on In the hallway. Like, man,

00:25:17.670 --> 00:25:22.670
I hate being a fucking new guy right now. Because

00:25:22.670 --> 00:25:26.430
it would take me like three hours on the bus

00:25:26.430 --> 00:25:30.990
to get to the shop where I can buy one. And then

00:25:30.990 --> 00:25:33.829
another three hours getting back. And I don't

00:25:33.829 --> 00:25:38.079
know if it's that worth it. I got three of them

00:25:38.079 --> 00:25:41.200
for graduation presents, and my mom is adamant

00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:43.160
that you don't throw out presents, and George

00:25:43.160 --> 00:25:45.839
Foreman grills never break, so I still have three

00:25:45.839 --> 00:25:50.299
George Foreman grills. Other than the power conversion,

00:25:50.720 --> 00:25:56.119
they would be good for Japanese living. Yeah,

00:25:56.740 --> 00:26:00.700
there's no grounds in the plug -ins here, but

00:26:00.700 --> 00:26:06.849
the sockets are the same. Oh, really? Yeah. It's

00:26:06.849 --> 00:26:09.250
all Americanized. I remember them being two,

00:26:09.349 --> 00:26:13.170
the two prong. Yeah, but I mean, they are two

00:26:13.170 --> 00:26:16.809
prongs. They're not like British or European.

00:26:18.109 --> 00:26:20.210
That's what I remember them being like is European.

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Who was he supposed to fight this time? Same

00:28:51.630 --> 00:28:57.500
guy. Martinez? Yeah. Oh, why did it get rescheduled

00:28:57.500 --> 00:29:03.440
this time? Oh, no. I think I confused you with

00:29:03.440 --> 00:29:06.099
the wording. It's not rescheduled again. I just

00:29:06.099 --> 00:29:08.400
mean it's coming up soon. Oh, the reschedule

00:29:08.400 --> 00:29:14.059
is happening. Yeah. Okay. I wasn't sure if we

00:29:14.059 --> 00:29:15.940
had already talked about that on the podcast

00:29:15.940 --> 00:29:20.240
and I was looking for filler. No, I don't think

00:29:20.240 --> 00:29:26.200
we did. It's May 11th in Tokyo. That's why I

00:29:26.200 --> 00:29:29.660
put it up. They just announced the venue. Where's

00:29:29.660 --> 00:29:32.539
it going to be? And the date. Ota City, which

00:29:32.539 --> 00:29:35.720
is where he always fights. It's that other side

00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.799
of Tokyo. It's technically still Tokyo, but it's

00:29:39.799 --> 00:29:45.380
really like Kanagawa. The not so good part? Yeah,

00:29:45.500 --> 00:29:51.180
well, Tokyo is the name of the prefecture. So

00:29:51.180 --> 00:29:54.099
what everybody thinks of as Tokyo is kind of

00:29:54.099 --> 00:29:57.460
like the five or six areas or whatever, but this

00:29:57.460 --> 00:30:01.119
is the outskirts area right near Yokohama. Ah,

00:30:01.319 --> 00:30:04.400
I see what you mean. Okay. So the Tokyo prefecture,

00:30:04.500 --> 00:30:08.720
that would be like a metropolitan area? Well,

00:30:08.859 --> 00:30:12.200
Tokyo is not the name of the city. Tokyo is the

00:30:12.200 --> 00:30:16.680
name of the prefecture. Oh, okay. Yep. Clicked.

00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:21.180
Got it. Yeah. So it's... it's just what everybody

00:30:21.180 --> 00:30:23.579
calls all those cities that have grown together.

00:30:23.859 --> 00:30:27.980
Yeah. Okay. I see what you mean. Yeah. It's,

00:30:27.980 --> 00:30:30.660
it's hard to explain without sounding super douchey,

00:30:30.660 --> 00:30:34.140
but like if New York was a New York city was

00:30:34.140 --> 00:30:36.460
a state and the five boroughs would be the cities.

00:30:36.740 --> 00:30:39.920
Yeah. That's what Tokyo is. Tokyo is actually

00:30:39.920 --> 00:30:42.859
the prefecture. That's what I had in mind actually

00:30:42.859 --> 00:30:45.440
was the five boroughs. That's what I was thinking.

00:30:45.799 --> 00:30:49.740
But. This would be more like whatever city is

00:30:49.740 --> 00:30:53.839
just outside of New York. I don't know New York

00:30:53.839 --> 00:30:55.859
at all. Like New Jersey. Yeah, I was going to

00:30:55.859 --> 00:30:58.019
say, that's exactly what I was going to say.

00:30:58.119 --> 00:31:01.519
The old Sopranos line jumped to my head. This

00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.759
other pygmy thing over in Jersey. Yeah, so it's

00:31:05.759 --> 00:31:09.859
in the same place. It's May 11th, and I think

00:31:09.859 --> 00:31:12.420
I'm going to buy another ticket. Yeah, I was

00:31:12.420 --> 00:31:14.380
going to ask if you were going to go. You should

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:17.390
if you can. I have told myself that I need to

00:31:17.390 --> 00:31:22.849
go to less boxing matches, because they are starting

00:31:22.849 --> 00:31:24.970
to add up expense -wise, because I've gotten

00:31:24.970 --> 00:31:30.049
a little spoiled. I want the nice seats. So they're

00:31:30.049 --> 00:31:34.329
about $300 an event, which is still very reasonable,

00:31:34.490 --> 00:31:39.910
but I've gone to a lot of events now. I think

00:31:39.910 --> 00:31:45.980
I only sprung for seats like that one time. uh

00:31:45.980 --> 00:31:48.500
where i paid for the front row not on the floor

00:31:48.500 --> 00:31:52.460
but where the bowl ends yeah that's that's where

00:31:52.460 --> 00:31:55.680
i've been buying them yeah that's how that's

00:31:55.680 --> 00:31:59.359
the seats were like 500 they're so nice though

00:31:59.359 --> 00:32:02.259
i know it was such a perfect view i had perfect

00:32:02.259 --> 00:32:04.519
view of everything it was the best you can see

00:32:04.519 --> 00:32:08.220
their feet you can hear the punches half the

00:32:08.220 --> 00:32:10.500
time i can hear them yelling at each other it's

00:32:10.500 --> 00:32:13.279
great it's like i'm on that elevated platform

00:32:13.279 --> 00:32:16.269
where the judges sit where they're just off to

00:32:16.269 --> 00:32:18.730
the side and they get that one side view but

00:32:18.730 --> 00:32:21.630
that's what the that's the seat that i like so

00:32:21.630 --> 00:32:24.430
i either need to be less spoiled and sit farther

00:32:24.430 --> 00:32:26.769
back which i did at the last one and it was still

00:32:26.769 --> 00:32:32.789
fine the arenas here are not that big but i'm

00:32:32.789 --> 00:32:36.049
gonna need to start the hardcore fans club yeah

00:32:36.049 --> 00:32:40.309
it's gonna be a subscription -based thing where

00:32:40.309 --> 00:32:43.089
you pay in monthly but then when the when hot

00:32:43.089 --> 00:32:46.740
tickets come out you'll get them at like 75 %

00:32:46.740 --> 00:32:49.740
off. That would be awesome. Because you're paying

00:32:49.740 --> 00:32:53.539
into it for a few months. Speaking of tickets,

00:32:53.759 --> 00:32:57.660
I totally missed that prospect that I really

00:32:57.660 --> 00:33:01.960
like. Aoi Yokoyama is fighting today. He fights

00:33:01.960 --> 00:33:06.900
in, I don't know, like six hours. So I did not

00:33:06.900 --> 00:33:09.400
get a ticket, but it's going to be on Abima,

00:33:09.539 --> 00:33:11.680
which nobody's going to hear this before then,

00:33:11.779 --> 00:33:17.880
but you should watch it. um he's i think the

00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:24.039
co -main he's fighting for uh asia pacific pacific

00:33:24.039 --> 00:33:27.519
oriental yeah oriental pacific belt there we

00:33:27.519 --> 00:33:30.740
go already yeah it's like his third fight or

00:33:30.740 --> 00:33:34.039
yeah that's that's actually really quick yeah

00:33:34.039 --> 00:33:38.539
uh the i've been translating he doesn't get any

00:33:38.539 --> 00:33:41.220
press in english i've been translating the things

00:33:41.220 --> 00:33:44.880
he puts up on instagram and i If the translation

00:33:44.880 --> 00:33:48.140
is correct, which it could be, maybe not. And

00:33:48.140 --> 00:33:51.779
the English wasn't great. But it's the fastest

00:33:51.779 --> 00:33:56.059
a Japanese boxer has gone for one of those international

00:33:56.059 --> 00:34:00.480
belts. Maybe in his weight class. Maybe ever.

00:34:00.579 --> 00:34:02.900
I'm not sure. Like I said, it's Google Translate.

00:34:03.920 --> 00:34:07.579
But I think I sent it to you. His grandparents'

00:34:08.079 --> 00:34:12.099
retirement home did another good luck video.

00:34:12.730 --> 00:34:16.670
I love it. That's the sweetest thing. I thought

00:34:16.670 --> 00:34:19.010
he was just... I didn't know that it was his

00:34:19.010 --> 00:34:21.889
grandparents' place, but it makes sense why he's

00:34:21.889 --> 00:34:23.650
there all the time. Or is that where they live?

00:34:24.409 --> 00:34:27.989
I might be assuming that it's his grandparents'.

00:34:27.989 --> 00:34:30.150
Maybe he's just really good friends with one

00:34:30.150 --> 00:34:32.550
of the old guys, but there's one old guy that's

00:34:32.550 --> 00:34:36.710
always in his videos that... Again, it's all

00:34:36.710 --> 00:34:39.150
in Japanese. I assume it's his granddad, but

00:34:39.150 --> 00:34:41.010
maybe it isn't. Maybe he just volunteers there.

00:34:41.519 --> 00:34:43.440
Yeah, either way, it's still really cool that

00:34:43.440 --> 00:34:47.159
he spends a lot of time there. Yeah. I know elder

00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:52.820
care is a big hot button consideration for the

00:34:52.820 --> 00:34:57.199
declining birth rate there. Yeah, there's a lot

00:34:57.199 --> 00:35:00.599
more old people than young people here, unfortunately.

00:35:03.599 --> 00:35:08.239
That's a lot of the, how would you put it, non

00:35:08.239 --> 00:35:11.630
-prestigious jobs are done by Incredibly old

00:35:11.630 --> 00:35:14.369
people here. I think the janitors I see at the

00:35:14.369 --> 00:35:17.610
university are all in their 70s, at least. Wow.

00:35:18.389 --> 00:35:22.030
Because young people want good jobs, and there's

00:35:22.030 --> 00:35:24.929
not enough young people to fill the jobs anyways,

00:35:25.070 --> 00:35:32.329
so who sweeps the floors? I remember reading

00:35:32.329 --> 00:35:35.969
somewhere, and this was like 10 years ago, that

00:35:35.969 --> 00:35:39.610
Japan is headed for its own... korea as well

00:35:39.610 --> 00:35:42.809
but they're headed towards pandemics and the

00:35:42.809 --> 00:35:44.869
illness is good it's not going to be contagious

00:35:44.869 --> 00:35:46.650
so i don't know if pandemic's the right word

00:35:46.650 --> 00:35:51.929
but like dementia and yeah alzheimer's are going

00:35:51.929 --> 00:35:56.949
to decimate a large portion of the of the population

00:35:56.949 --> 00:36:01.289
and there's really no way to stop it well and

00:36:01.289 --> 00:36:07.010
japan specifically has a lot of intestinal cancers

00:36:07.639 --> 00:36:11.480
for some reason, which is part of why my research

00:36:11.480 --> 00:36:15.320
gets funded here with the microbiome stuff. I

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:19.780
see. Yeah. But anyways, yeah, the young guy,

00:36:19.940 --> 00:36:24.019
Aoi Yokoyama, is fighting tonight, and I'm going

00:36:24.019 --> 00:36:27.000
to watch it. We will report back later. I actually

00:36:27.000 --> 00:36:28.840
don't even know who's the main event in this

00:36:28.840 --> 00:36:36.280
one. Is it at Korakuen? I don't know. I didn't

00:36:36.280 --> 00:36:42.750
really look. I can probably figure it out. Jamal

00:36:42.750 --> 00:36:46.329
Charlo is coming back on the 31st of May on the

00:36:46.329 --> 00:36:51.210
Kayla Plant undercard. Nice. All right, why?

00:36:52.170 --> 00:36:55.869
I don't know. After this long? I don't recognize

00:36:55.869 --> 00:36:59.429
the way in place, so I'm not sure if he is fighting

00:36:59.429 --> 00:37:04.110
in Tokyo. I don't think so. None of this looks

00:37:04.110 --> 00:37:08.789
like Tokyo in the kanji that's not translating.

00:37:09.360 --> 00:37:13.480
He's fighting a Filipino champion. Jamel Magramo.

00:37:14.199 --> 00:37:18.719
Is he the Filipino Boxing Federation guy? I don't

00:37:18.719 --> 00:37:23.380
know. Filipino champ. His name is spelled different.

00:37:24.360 --> 00:37:28.179
No indications of who Jamal is going to be fighting.

00:37:29.239 --> 00:37:32.519
They are fighting in some place I have never

00:37:32.519 --> 00:37:36.440
heard of. I just found it on BoxRec. Aichi Sky

00:37:36.440 --> 00:37:41.980
Expo in Tokoname. Where the hell is that? No

00:37:41.980 --> 00:37:48.059
idea. Joshua, next fight moves a step closer

00:37:48.059 --> 00:37:51.079
and it's going to be either Dubois or Tyson Fury.

00:37:52.199 --> 00:37:54.679
If you can't get them, it's going to be Joseph

00:37:54.679 --> 00:37:59.559
Parker. AJ versus Parker might be interesting.

00:38:00.219 --> 00:38:03.199
I think that Parker would do a lot better this

00:38:03.199 --> 00:38:09.719
time around. Oh, speaking of heavyweights. Derek

00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:14.380
Chisora is the IVF mandatory. Are they trying

00:38:14.380 --> 00:38:20.780
to kill this poor man? What the fuck? I think

00:38:20.780 --> 00:38:24.519
if they give him a title fight and he loses,

00:38:24.579 --> 00:38:28.519
he'll walk away. He had his retirement speech

00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:31.960
before his last fight and then he won it. Yeah,

00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.340
he sent Otto Wallin flying like a full 90 degree

00:38:36.340 --> 00:38:42.059
turn. The career that won't die. Yeah, hopefully

00:38:42.059 --> 00:38:46.420
this last one is the final one. Finally. It's

00:38:46.420 --> 00:38:49.500
just too much. It's too much to watch him keep

00:38:49.500 --> 00:38:55.679
doing this. Wow. And he always sounds so out

00:38:55.679 --> 00:39:00.239
of breath. Yeah. I wonder if it's going to go

00:39:00.239 --> 00:39:04.150
away. Where people are going to be asking questions,

00:39:04.210 --> 00:39:07.110
like looking back, like why did nobody stop him?

00:39:08.110 --> 00:39:13.469
I think it's already there. Is it not? I think

00:39:13.469 --> 00:39:15.570
we're on the cusp of it. And it's just going

00:39:15.570 --> 00:39:18.409
to take one more like hard shot or hard fight

00:39:18.409 --> 00:39:21.409
to push him over the edge. And I don't know what

00:39:21.409 --> 00:39:23.349
over the edge really means. I'm not accusing

00:39:23.349 --> 00:39:26.469
him of anything. Just saying I think something's

00:39:26.469 --> 00:39:28.570
going to like with his health is going to click

00:39:28.570 --> 00:39:31.639
in the wrong way. Right. And people are going

00:39:31.639 --> 00:39:34.179
to be like, why did we allow this to happen?

00:39:34.780 --> 00:39:37.340
Well, I mean, he must be passing the physicals,

00:39:37.340 --> 00:39:40.300
but who knows how hard that is, especially in

00:39:40.300 --> 00:39:43.059
Britain. I feel like the British Boxing Commission

00:39:43.059 --> 00:39:46.000
does not take fighters' health super seriously.

00:39:46.539 --> 00:39:49.260
They do take egg consumption really seriously.

00:39:49.840 --> 00:39:54.039
Do they? Do they, really? Yeah, you're right.

00:39:54.980 --> 00:39:58.300
Bob Arum doesn't want Tyson Fury to fight AJ.

00:39:58.989 --> 00:40:01.650
Bob Arum was saying something about how he wants

00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:06.809
Tyson to retire, wasn't he? Stay retired. If

00:40:06.809 --> 00:40:09.710
your retirement is genuine, then stay retired.

00:40:09.869 --> 00:40:12.690
Don't come out of it. Hasn't he retired like

00:40:12.690 --> 00:40:15.789
four times? Something like that. Fucking fury.

00:40:16.090 --> 00:40:19.889
Yeah. Reports indicate that he earned in excess

00:40:19.889 --> 00:40:25.789
of 100 million US for the two Usyk fights. Why

00:40:25.789 --> 00:40:29.710
would you come back? I would just... $100 million.

00:40:31.150 --> 00:40:33.949
You could live off that forever. You could live

00:40:33.949 --> 00:40:38.550
off the interest forever. Yeah. This is why I

00:40:38.550 --> 00:40:41.349
would never be a world -class anything. I would

00:40:41.349 --> 00:40:44.570
get just enough money and I would quit. You step

00:40:44.570 --> 00:40:48.690
in to fight AJ. AJ is trying to prove that he

00:40:48.690 --> 00:40:52.269
still belongs, whereas Fury kind of already has.

00:40:52.710 --> 00:40:56.309
Well, and Fury also has kind of looked like shit.

00:40:57.099 --> 00:41:04.440
off and on many times. Yeah. I don't like it.

00:41:04.539 --> 00:41:08.139
I agree with Bob here. Uncle Bob knows what he's

00:41:08.139 --> 00:41:13.159
talking about right now, Tyson. Speaking of slamming,

00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:16.760
Bruce Carrington says Espinoza doesn't want to

00:41:16.760 --> 00:41:22.539
fight him? Yeah, he was twittering about how

00:41:22.539 --> 00:41:25.900
Espinoza is ducking him. Pretty sure it was twitter.

00:41:27.639 --> 00:41:30.820
I don't know if I believe that very much. No,

00:41:30.920 --> 00:41:33.780
I don't believe it at all. I think Espinoza will

00:41:33.780 --> 00:41:39.380
fight anyone. He may not be built like your typical

00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:43.360
Mexican fighter, and he doesn't always necessarily

00:41:43.360 --> 00:41:49.039
fight like one, but the pride is there, and it's

00:41:49.039 --> 00:41:51.699
not a good idea. That's not the beehive you want

00:41:51.699 --> 00:41:54.820
to poke on a Mexican fighter. There are other

00:41:54.820 --> 00:41:58.190
things you can do, but... That's inadvisable.

00:41:58.710 --> 00:42:00.730
Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I would want

00:42:00.730 --> 00:42:04.070
to piss Espinoza off before a fight. I would

00:42:04.070 --> 00:42:09.349
be so boring. I would be so respectful. Don't

00:42:09.349 --> 00:42:12.889
give anybody any fuel. Yeah, they're really good.

00:42:13.010 --> 00:42:15.690
Did you see their last fight? They won by a knockout.

00:42:15.710 --> 00:42:19.849
That was incredible. Wow. Let's everyone take

00:42:19.849 --> 00:42:24.090
a moment. I guess there are quite a few fighters

00:42:24.090 --> 00:42:28.659
like that, actually. Yeah, a lot of them have

00:42:28.659 --> 00:42:33.760
to be translated. Yeah, well, even like... Who

00:42:33.760 --> 00:42:37.019
am I thinking of? No, lost it. Anyway, there's

00:42:37.019 --> 00:42:39.659
some in English, too, that are always just really

00:42:39.659 --> 00:42:42.980
nice. I always kind of wonder, too, how much

00:42:42.980 --> 00:42:45.659
of the translated guys, they're just not translating

00:42:45.659 --> 00:42:49.900
it properly. It happens a lot. Like, I don't

00:42:49.900 --> 00:42:52.400
actually understand any other languages, but

00:42:52.400 --> 00:42:55.599
sometimes I'm like, that is not... what you said

00:42:55.599 --> 00:42:59.340
i don't think i try my best whenever i'm in um

00:42:59.340 --> 00:43:03.340
if i'm in discord for with everybody and there's

00:43:03.340 --> 00:43:07.400
a spanish translation i try my best to uh throw

00:43:07.400 --> 00:43:11.340
my own on top of it just because yeah the translators

00:43:11.340 --> 00:43:14.340
are usually ass the ones that have been good

00:43:14.340 --> 00:43:20.739
the uh like scottish guy that's on the zone with

00:43:20.739 --> 00:43:25.030
the notebook yeah him He seems really good. He

00:43:25.030 --> 00:43:29.030
even says it the same way in English. He puts

00:43:29.030 --> 00:43:31.349
the same feeling behind the words when he translates.

00:43:32.170 --> 00:43:37.090
The Thai translator at 1FC is really good that

00:43:37.090 --> 00:43:42.050
way as well. He gives the same emphasis bidirectionally

00:43:42.050 --> 00:43:47.469
on the same enthusiasm. The Brazilian translator

00:43:47.469 --> 00:43:55.099
for UFC is good. Most recently, Ola Squaga's

00:43:55.099 --> 00:43:59.559
translator. It was a Japanese woman. I don't

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:04.480
like her. You know? No. Not the English one.

00:44:04.559 --> 00:44:08.940
It was the Spanish. Oh, okay. Yeah, no. I don't

00:44:08.940 --> 00:44:12.559
know that one. No, the one who does English in

00:44:12.559 --> 00:44:15.679
Japan, I don't like her translations. I don't

00:44:15.679 --> 00:44:18.639
think they're very good. Very cutesy voice. Is

00:44:18.639 --> 00:44:22.019
that who we're thinking of? Yeah, it's not necessarily

00:44:22.019 --> 00:44:24.519
her voice that bothers me. No, yeah, that's just

00:44:24.519 --> 00:44:28.400
how I remember her. I pick up enough of the words.

00:44:28.440 --> 00:44:30.519
I'm like, that's not really what he was saying.

00:44:31.179 --> 00:44:34.900
Yeah, Felix de Jesus was like that. I'm glad

00:44:34.900 --> 00:44:38.400
he didn't get picked back up for PBC on Prime.

00:44:39.480 --> 00:44:41.699
Terrible. Yeah, I really like that Scottish guy,

00:44:41.739 --> 00:44:45.139
though. Like, it's a weird thing to say, but

00:44:45.139 --> 00:44:47.460
he is my favorite translator. When I see him

00:44:47.460 --> 00:44:51.739
at the cards, I'm like, yes. No, it's a real

00:44:51.739 --> 00:44:56.880
thing. Not getting the real feeling of what somebody

00:44:56.880 --> 00:45:01.940
is actually saying, you're losing a lot of real,

00:45:02.159 --> 00:45:06.420
it's not like atmosphere, but it's a real, it's

00:45:06.420 --> 00:45:09.400
a serious ingredient, is having the fighter's

00:45:09.400 --> 00:45:13.019
perspectives. yeah that's makes parts of part

00:45:13.019 --> 00:45:15.940
of what makes understanding their native language

00:45:15.940 --> 00:45:21.860
good yeah uh like felix say one a guy would go

00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:25.300
off saying uh i had a really great opponent he

00:45:25.300 --> 00:45:27.980
was really tough but we prepared for everything

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:30.460
and we came out on top and then the translator

00:45:30.460 --> 00:45:32.719
will say like yeah we did we got the job done

00:45:32.719 --> 00:45:36.480
so i'm sorry that's not what he said that's not

00:45:36.480 --> 00:45:41.159
what he said yeah uh but Man, I'm going to have

00:45:41.159 --> 00:45:43.079
to get the names of these people because there's

00:45:43.079 --> 00:45:46.340
this other guy. He does Spanish and he's it's

00:45:46.340 --> 00:45:48.400
not the Scottish guy, but he also does his own

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:53.099
stuff. He does the like Islander Spanish. He

00:45:53.099 --> 00:45:56.159
translates that really well because I like the

00:45:56.159 --> 00:45:59.260
Cubans. Yeah, Cubans, Puerto Ricans, Dominicans.

00:45:59.320 --> 00:46:01.260
I struggle understanding with them sometimes.

00:46:01.539 --> 00:46:05.099
The blonde lady that does the English and Spanish

00:46:05.099 --> 00:46:08.260
interviews on the zone. She seems really good,

00:46:08.320 --> 00:46:11.269
too. And it impresses me how she switches back

00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:15.070
and forth all the time. Probox has one like that,

00:46:15.090 --> 00:46:18.590
too. It's also a blonde lady. A little younger,

00:46:18.670 --> 00:46:21.650
though. Yeah. I'm always impressed when people

00:46:21.650 --> 00:46:27.329
can switch like that. On the fly? Yeah. Speaking

00:46:27.329 --> 00:46:32.769
of on the fly, Terra Moana with another early

00:46:32.769 --> 00:46:35.389
stoppage. If you're not watching Terra Moana,

00:46:35.510 --> 00:46:39.960
you should be. Five fights in 2024. Five stoppages.

00:46:40.559 --> 00:46:44.500
Kicking off 2026 with a stoppage. Does the dance

00:46:44.500 --> 00:46:49.280
afterwards. He toned it down. I didn't appreciate

00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:52.900
that. So you're going to have to step it up next

00:46:52.900 --> 00:46:58.199
time, buddy. Needing to step it up. Fucking Cambosos.

00:46:58.900 --> 00:47:02.079
Goes the distance with a late replacement no

00:47:02.079 --> 00:47:05.099
one's ever heard of. Except Jacob in the Discord.

00:47:05.579 --> 00:47:08.519
The Aussie Jacob? Oh, yeah. Apparently he fights

00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.519
with him from the same gym. Oh, shit. He was

00:47:12.519 --> 00:47:15.619
at the fights cheering for him. Actually, in

00:47:15.619 --> 00:47:21.420
the second half, Wiley was doing well. Maybe

00:47:21.420 --> 00:47:24.300
not winning, but doing well. Yeah, I was going

00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:28.440
to say, like, he held his own. I wonder, giving,

00:47:28.679 --> 00:47:31.860
pardon the expression, but giving Cambosos the

00:47:31.860 --> 00:47:34.300
benefit of the doubt here. Like, this is a late

00:47:34.300 --> 00:47:37.460
replacement. You have no idea who he is. You

00:47:37.460 --> 00:47:39.840
probably can't find any footage on him, so you

00:47:39.840 --> 00:47:43.340
don't know what to expect. You're kind of game

00:47:43.340 --> 00:47:49.199
planning on the fly, maybe? No. No? Campbell

00:47:49.199 --> 00:47:54.420
has no fucking excuses on this one. That Wiley

00:47:54.420 --> 00:47:58.920
guy came in, he looked... Odd by the moment.

00:47:59.199 --> 00:48:02.840
He was nervous. He was stiff. He looked like

00:48:02.840 --> 00:48:05.539
shit in the first three rounds. And Kambosis,

00:48:05.599 --> 00:48:11.380
I think he got a knockdown. Maybe. But he didn't

00:48:11.380 --> 00:48:14.619
finish it. He let him get into the fight in the

00:48:14.619 --> 00:48:18.960
second half. Kambosis should be much too good

00:48:18.960 --> 00:48:21.659
for these domestic fights. He should not be going

00:48:21.659 --> 00:48:24.139
the distance. Especially not with a late replacement.

00:48:26.030 --> 00:48:29.869
I don't think Wiley was particularly impressive,

00:48:30.190 --> 00:48:34.130
to be honest. I think Cambosis was just shit.

00:48:34.489 --> 00:48:36.929
I'm glad that Wiley went the distance. He looks

00:48:36.929 --> 00:48:38.929
super fucking happy with that accomplishment,

00:48:39.010 --> 00:48:41.610
and he should be. Yeah, it's a real -life Rocky

00:48:41.610 --> 00:48:46.010
story. Yeah, but, like... Cambosis should be

00:48:46.010 --> 00:48:49.829
ashamed of himself. He should be, though. I don't

00:48:49.829 --> 00:48:51.429
know. I don't understand how he keeps getting

00:48:51.429 --> 00:48:55.179
fights. He has the best fucking manager promoter

00:48:55.179 --> 00:48:59.539
team in boxing. He has turned one kind of fluke

00:48:59.539 --> 00:49:03.119
win. Not a fluke. He deserved that win. He beat

00:49:03.119 --> 00:49:09.019
Teofimo. But he turned one win into fucking ten

00:49:09.019 --> 00:49:13.179
big fights. Yeah. At least like the bigger ones.

00:49:13.860 --> 00:49:17.900
The better of his opponents have been really

00:49:17.900 --> 00:49:20.119
messing him up. Like Lomachenko really took him

00:49:20.119 --> 00:49:26.119
to school. yeah that was nice confused who was

00:49:26.119 --> 00:49:29.320
it recently that had a late replacement and uh

00:49:29.320 --> 00:49:31.780
they bopped him out in the first like three rounds

00:49:31.780 --> 00:49:35.139
and that was they said exactly what you said

00:49:35.139 --> 00:49:38.400
like this is the late replacement joseph parker

00:49:38.400 --> 00:49:42.599
it wasn't a heavyweight well i mean joseph parker

00:49:42.599 --> 00:49:45.920
beat i'm bad with names but coley right super

00:49:45.920 --> 00:49:50.599
fast came in super fat yes It wasn't who I was

00:49:50.599 --> 00:49:53.199
thinking of, but that's good enough of an example.

00:49:53.360 --> 00:49:56.539
That's what you're supposed to do. You got dudes

00:49:56.539 --> 00:49:59.840
coming in on three days notice. Don't let them

00:49:59.840 --> 00:50:02.480
get very far. Right. You're the one that's fully

00:50:02.480 --> 00:50:05.179
prepared. Even if the game plan has to change,

00:50:05.340 --> 00:50:07.960
you are a boxer. You're supposed to be able to

00:50:07.960 --> 00:50:11.980
make the adjustments. Yeah. Cambosis should not

00:50:11.980 --> 00:50:14.440
be going the distance with any of those domestic

00:50:14.440 --> 00:50:17.940
level guys in Australia. Plot twist. He is a

00:50:17.940 --> 00:50:21.519
domestic -level Australian guy. This is true.

00:50:21.900 --> 00:50:26.300
So he's doing exactly what he should be doing.

00:50:26.920 --> 00:50:29.480
Because he never should have been world -class?

00:50:29.719 --> 00:50:34.860
No, he should not have been. Maybe, but... Then

00:50:34.860 --> 00:50:37.179
everybody should acknowledge that. Stop giving

00:50:37.179 --> 00:50:42.420
him good fights. Right. You can have him headline

00:50:42.420 --> 00:50:45.900
these domestic dust -ups. But definitely keep

00:50:45.900 --> 00:50:50.239
them off of a... That should have been Princess

00:50:50.239 --> 00:50:53.900
Skies. Oh, yeah. Her headlining the downfall.

00:50:55.800 --> 00:50:58.019
Actually, I missed that fight. I forgot to put

00:50:58.019 --> 00:51:01.539
it on the outline. Did you not see it? No, I

00:51:01.539 --> 00:51:05.760
missed it. It was good. I heard she deserved

00:51:05.760 --> 00:51:09.500
the loss. She did. I would say that she was just

00:51:09.500 --> 00:51:13.760
a little bit behind. Not enough aggression. Just

00:51:13.760 --> 00:51:18.179
a little too slow. A little too heavy in the

00:51:18.179 --> 00:51:24.719
feet. Just a shade, not enough. And with that

00:51:24.719 --> 00:51:30.699
compounding round over round, yeah. She deserved

00:51:30.699 --> 00:51:34.380
that loss. Can't say I'm too upset by it. I am

00:51:34.380 --> 00:51:39.699
not a Sky fan. No, I only really mentioned her

00:51:39.699 --> 00:51:42.059
for the same reason I mentioned Tension so much.

00:51:43.130 --> 00:51:45.349
Yeah, because it annoys the hell out of me. Just

00:51:45.349 --> 00:51:49.769
to needle you a little bit. Yeah, yeah. Oh, I

00:51:49.769 --> 00:51:53.170
completely forgot to get the fight order on this

00:51:53.170 --> 00:51:58.150
one. There's a few cards coming up that are all

00:51:58.150 --> 00:52:03.349
really fun. I don't even have it open. It should

00:52:03.349 --> 00:52:07.869
be on your website, right? I wanted to... No,

00:52:07.949 --> 00:52:12.250
I have the other doc right next to it. I had

00:52:12.250 --> 00:52:15.610
it. I thought I did anyway. All right. Yeah,

00:52:15.750 --> 00:52:18.070
the website has all the details. Look at me.

00:52:18.130 --> 00:52:21.989
I'm really good at this. I just pulled up the

00:52:21.989 --> 00:52:28.269
LVXmedia .net calendar. And it's a good one.

00:52:30.110 --> 00:52:36.210
What do we got here? Somebody did say it looks

00:52:36.210 --> 00:52:38.250
like the blue screen of death, and now I can't

00:52:38.250 --> 00:52:43.059
unsee it. Yeah, it was Bally. Yeah. I'll have

00:52:43.059 --> 00:52:47.239
to find a new shade of blue, but the idea is

00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.219
all the boxing stuff is blue, all the MMA stuff

00:52:50.219 --> 00:52:55.199
is red. Ah, that makes sense. Only the top three

00:52:55.199 --> 00:53:00.440
stick out to me. Yocasta Valle, who beat Senisa

00:53:00.440 --> 00:53:04.900
Estrada, eat your own shit, Chris Mannix. Yeah.

00:53:05.699 --> 00:53:07.960
I don't know about this one, though. I actually,

00:53:08.019 --> 00:53:13.400
in the pick league, I picked Esparza. So, Vale's

00:53:13.400 --> 00:53:16.199
moving up two weight classes. Oh, shit, that's

00:53:16.199 --> 00:53:21.880
right. And Esparza's only moving down one. So,

00:53:21.920 --> 00:53:25.400
Esparza's gonna be big. Esparza's been looking

00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.900
like shit lately, though. Yeah, but she's also

00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:35.760
tough as nails. Yeah. And she's gonna be big.

00:53:36.400 --> 00:53:40.139
She's coming from 15 pounds heavier than Valet's

00:53:40.139 --> 00:53:44.260
last fight. They're meeting at 12 pounds heavier.

00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:50.619
That's a lot. It is. It is a big jump. We'll

00:53:50.619 --> 00:53:54.460
see. I, you know, I've been wrong before, but

00:53:54.460 --> 00:53:57.579
I'm calling an upset on this one. I think Esparza

00:53:57.579 --> 00:54:00.300
is going to be too big and too tough, and Valet's

00:54:00.300 --> 00:54:02.980
not going to be able to prevent her from just

00:54:02.980 --> 00:54:11.139
swarming. Like Esparza does. Yocasta Valle, born

00:54:11.139 --> 00:54:15.460
in Nicaragua, lives in Costa Rica. She is the

00:54:15.460 --> 00:54:19.440
jungle goddess, jungle warrior goddess. Nice.

00:54:19.739 --> 00:54:26.179
And then, cute as fuck, Marlon Esparza. I'm going

00:54:26.179 --> 00:54:30.860
with my warrior goddess here. That's fine. I

00:54:30.860 --> 00:54:34.119
don't think Marlon has it anymore as much as

00:54:34.119 --> 00:54:39.659
it pains me to say. Maybe. I don't know. I have

00:54:39.659 --> 00:54:43.239
a feeling she's going to be too big. I think

00:54:43.239 --> 00:54:47.480
they are underestimating Esparza and it's going

00:54:47.480 --> 00:54:51.639
to piss her off. With how she's looked recently,

00:54:51.840 --> 00:54:55.900
yeah. I can see why she'd be underestimated.

00:54:56.659 --> 00:55:00.980
We'll see. I like Esparza. Speaking of underestimated,

00:55:01.059 --> 00:55:04.780
Oscar Collazo, the WBO minimum weight champion.

00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:10.619
Underestimated. I'm not... Wanted that to mean

00:55:10.619 --> 00:55:14.800
he's short, but I couldn't make it work. Versus

00:55:14.800 --> 00:55:19.179
Edwin Cano Hernandez. I'm expecting Collazo to

00:55:19.179 --> 00:55:23.219
make easy work of this. Yeah. I was debating

00:55:23.219 --> 00:55:25.519
whether to put down knockout or not. I don't

00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:31.650
think I put any guesses on... type of win and

00:55:31.650 --> 00:55:35.030
the rematch williams zapata versus tevin farmer

00:55:35.030 --> 00:55:38.750
holy shit the first i'm excited the first one

00:55:38.750 --> 00:55:42.570
was great i expect the second to be the same

00:55:42.570 --> 00:55:49.630
yeah yeah i'm i'm really torn on this one i don't

00:55:49.630 --> 00:55:51.889
even know who to cheer for i really like zapata

00:55:51.889 --> 00:55:58.480
but i think farmer deserves a win finally. He

00:55:58.480 --> 00:56:01.719
always gets fucked. I thought he won the first

00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:05.420
one. I did too, and they stole it from him. Yeah,

00:56:05.480 --> 00:56:07.760
just by virtue of the knockdown, that being the

00:56:07.760 --> 00:56:13.079
deciding factor. I don't think this... I wonder

00:56:13.079 --> 00:56:17.099
if Zepeda turns up the heat a little sooner.

00:56:18.139 --> 00:56:21.480
Yeah, I think Zepeda will not be as surprised

00:56:21.480 --> 00:56:26.440
this time. Right. I think Zepeda underestimated

00:56:26.440 --> 00:56:29.139
Farmer a bit in the first fight. Mm -mm -mm.

00:56:30.440 --> 00:56:33.219
Underestimating Kazakhstan? Johnny Beck's next

00:56:33.219 --> 00:56:36.000
fight is going to be in Kazakhstan? That's pretty

00:56:36.000 --> 00:56:40.340
damn cool. I thought it was cool. I don't recognize

00:56:40.340 --> 00:56:44.460
anyone's name on this card, but... I have them

00:56:44.460 --> 00:56:47.480
split into the two that really matter. Well,

00:56:47.519 --> 00:56:50.420
and maybe I just don't know how to read the names.

00:56:50.559 --> 00:56:52.500
Maybe I'll recognize them when you say them.

00:56:53.219 --> 00:56:55.599
Baturzan Jukambayev, you should remember from

00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.000
Probox, he fought on Probox like four times.

00:56:58.380 --> 00:57:02.300
I'm not sure who Con Gardner is. That is not

00:57:02.300 --> 00:57:08.019
how I was reading that. And Johnnybeckalimkanuli,

00:57:08.239 --> 00:57:17.730
Phlem the KH, pro tip. Yeah. Man, this guy is...

00:57:17.730 --> 00:57:22.329
This guy. I think I got that one. Apparently

00:57:22.329 --> 00:57:29.449
he's from France? He's from somewhere... He's

00:57:29.449 --> 00:57:34.710
born in the Congo. Yeah. His nationality is listed

00:57:34.710 --> 00:57:41.139
as French. Yeah, former colonies. Yeah, I think

00:57:41.139 --> 00:57:43.980
this one's on ESPN+. It is. This one will be

00:57:43.980 --> 00:57:48.699
starting around one or two on the West Coast.

00:57:49.460 --> 00:57:52.960
I am just... I always like seeing these smaller

00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.960
countries get some recognition. And it's nice

00:57:57.960 --> 00:58:01.940
that Janabek gets to fight at home. Yeah. You

00:58:01.940 --> 00:58:05.019
know, like, I wonder how Golovkin is going to

00:58:05.019 --> 00:58:08.969
look. Because he's going to be there. Yeah. I

00:58:08.969 --> 00:58:13.650
wonder how he's going to look fat. Maybe. Man,

00:58:13.750 --> 00:58:16.750
I was working it out. I was getting close to

00:58:16.750 --> 00:58:20.889
getting like a sample package of Triple G's energy

00:58:20.889 --> 00:58:26.329
drink sent from Astana, sent to me. That would

00:58:26.329 --> 00:58:30.610
be really cool. Yeah, I would pay for the product

00:58:30.610 --> 00:58:32.909
and they would ship it for free. That's what

00:58:32.909 --> 00:58:37.090
we were working on. Nice. I was excited for it

00:58:37.090 --> 00:58:39.809
would just be. Like, two of each flavor they

00:58:39.809 --> 00:58:42.449
had, which I think they only have three. Still,

00:58:42.449 --> 00:58:46.130
though. Yeah. Not available outside of Kazakhstan

00:58:46.130 --> 00:58:49.090
at the moment. I'm excited to just kind of see

00:58:49.090 --> 00:58:52.550
what the Kazakhstan crowd looks like. Like, are

00:58:52.550 --> 00:58:54.769
they going to be super hype? Is it going to be

00:58:54.769 --> 00:58:58.329
quiet? I hope so. What clothes are they going

00:58:58.329 --> 00:59:00.010
to wear? Is it just going to be normal stuff,

00:59:00.090 --> 00:59:02.570
or are people going to come in, like... Fur coats

00:59:02.570 --> 00:59:07.739
and big poofy hats? Well, I mean, it's... Probably

00:59:07.739 --> 00:59:12.539
not cold this time of year, but Canada doesn't

00:59:12.539 --> 00:59:15.780
have it. But like, if I was going to be going

00:59:15.780 --> 00:59:18.639
to something on TV and I was from one of these

00:59:18.639 --> 00:59:21.599
countries with cool traditional clothes, I would

00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:24.840
dress the fuck out of my national clothes. Yeah,

00:59:24.920 --> 00:59:29.699
wear traditional style clothing. I think it'd

00:59:29.699 --> 00:59:32.980
be cool. It would be cool. That's what I hope

00:59:32.980 --> 00:59:36.760
to see. And I know they don't do it, but if they

00:59:36.760 --> 00:59:38.820
thought in Ukraine, I would love to see the ladies

00:59:38.820 --> 00:59:43.079
in the dresses. There's a very specific Ukrainian

00:59:43.079 --> 00:59:45.380
style dress that they wear when they do the dances

00:59:45.380 --> 00:59:47.980
in Saskatchewan. Maybe it's not even a thing

00:59:47.980 --> 00:59:52.420
in Ukraine anymore. There's a lot of those old

00:59:52.420 --> 00:59:54.880
traditions in Canada that have been dropped by

00:59:54.880 --> 00:59:58.039
the original country. Oh, well, speaking of being

00:59:58.039 --> 01:00:03.889
dropped by the original country, Tim Zoo. Yeah,

01:00:04.429 --> 01:00:09.289
this one starts at about five on the West Coast.

01:00:10.389 --> 01:00:13.530
This will be 5 a .m. or 5 p .m. p .m. This will

01:00:13.530 --> 01:00:19.690
be like Sunday morning for you. Yeah, there's

01:00:19.690 --> 01:00:21.909
only like three fights really worth paying attention

01:00:21.909 --> 01:00:26.530
to anyway. Andre Mikhailovich versus Blake Wells.

01:00:26.969 --> 01:00:32.579
Mikhailovich is the dude he fought. in australia

01:00:32.579 --> 01:00:37.539
most recently oh yeah i recognize his face yeah

01:00:37.539 --> 01:00:43.420
uh cohen mazutier he's a good prospect he's 12

01:00:43.420 --> 01:00:45.739
four and one so i don't know what you want to

01:00:45.739 --> 01:00:50.519
call him but uh he's he's good to watch so that

01:00:50.519 --> 01:00:52.639
should be a fun fight and i expect dan hill being

01:00:52.639 --> 01:00:54.780
seven and one they're giving him a bit probably

01:00:54.780 --> 01:00:57.980
giving him more of the push and mazutier is like

01:00:57.980 --> 01:01:02.800
the Top of the domestic level sort of geeky.

01:01:03.380 --> 01:01:08.800
A test before you go farther. Yeah. And Tim Zoo

01:01:08.800 --> 01:01:12.219
versus Joey Spencer. I'm not sure how I feel

01:01:12.219 --> 01:01:18.400
about this. Joey Spencer's not very good. Yeah,

01:01:18.420 --> 01:01:20.699
Tim Zoo needs a confidence booster, though. Right.

01:01:21.239 --> 01:01:26.059
I mean, for Zoo's career, this is the right thing

01:01:26.059 --> 01:01:29.840
to do. He looked... scared in that last fight

01:01:29.840 --> 01:01:36.139
yeah like they had was it a head clash and he

01:01:36.139 --> 01:01:40.420
kept checking for blood like what kind of ptsd

01:01:40.420 --> 01:01:45.380
to me it kind of was like being afraid of another

01:01:45.380 --> 01:01:50.159
gash i mean man he lost so much blood in that

01:01:50.159 --> 01:01:55.059
pandora fight i would be scared too but If he

01:01:55.059 --> 01:01:57.420
wants to be a world -level boxer, he's got to

01:01:57.420 --> 01:02:00.539
get over it. Right. I think this is what this

01:02:00.539 --> 01:02:03.820
is, is getting over it. Giving him a bit of a

01:02:03.820 --> 01:02:08.139
soft touch, get some round -ins, realize I'm

01:02:08.139 --> 01:02:12.679
not going to get cut every fight like that. I

01:02:12.679 --> 01:02:15.219
noticed that they keep referring to Joey Spencer

01:02:15.219 --> 01:02:18.079
as dangerous. That's what they keep calling him

01:02:18.079 --> 01:02:20.900
in all of the promo stuff. Is he, though? Right.

01:02:21.340 --> 01:02:28.000
Yeah, no, he's not. His picture on BoxRec, he

01:02:28.000 --> 01:02:31.719
looks like he's 12. Yeah, he does have a very

01:02:31.719 --> 01:02:34.599
young -looking face. He does, and I'm sure in

01:02:34.599 --> 01:02:38.760
that picture he's not 12, but he looks like some

01:02:38.760 --> 01:02:43.460
middle school football player. I don't know.

01:02:43.500 --> 01:02:46.440
I hope Tim Zhu does what he's supposed to do.

01:02:46.500 --> 01:02:48.900
I hope he gets in there and he kind of takes

01:02:48.900 --> 01:02:50.739
care of business in the first half of the fight.

01:02:51.599 --> 01:02:55.519
Yeah, the way he should, right? Yeah. Get some

01:02:55.519 --> 01:03:00.880
confidence back. Give him maybe another pest

01:03:00.880 --> 01:03:04.239
-ish afterwards. Like something he should win,

01:03:04.360 --> 01:03:07.320
but should be a little difficult. And then try

01:03:07.320 --> 01:03:11.199
and get him back in the world title hunt. All

01:03:11.199 --> 01:03:15.579
assuming that, you know, he doesn't get bopped

01:03:15.579 --> 01:03:18.400
trying to check for blood again. Oh, that wouldn't

01:03:18.400 --> 01:03:22.300
be good. No. If he loses to Joey Spencer, he

01:03:22.300 --> 01:03:29.230
should. be done pack it in yeah yeah oh damn

01:03:29.230 --> 01:03:32.250
no good setups for a segue there uh moving to

01:03:32.250 --> 01:03:39.090
richard torres this is a busy ass day yeah this

01:03:39.090 --> 01:03:42.269
one's this one's later though right uh it'll

01:03:42.269 --> 01:03:46.570
be at about seven so no i mean it's next week

01:03:46.570 --> 01:03:51.170
oh right is it not like april 6th or something

01:03:51.849 --> 01:03:54.590
Or I guess probably the 5th. It'll be your Saturday,

01:03:54.730 --> 01:03:59.570
my Sunday. April 5th. Yeah, it's on the same

01:03:59.570 --> 01:04:04.170
day. Just later in the day. Yeah. The main event,

01:04:04.289 --> 01:04:06.429
if they have Abdullah Mason as the co -main,

01:04:06.550 --> 01:04:10.429
which if you're smart, that's what you do. The

01:04:10.429 --> 01:04:13.429
main and co -main should be done after Tim Zhu.

01:04:14.010 --> 01:04:16.809
The whole day lines up actually really nicely.

01:04:17.670 --> 01:04:22.900
So you have Queensberry. At the top with Joe

01:04:22.900 --> 01:04:27.380
Joyce and Filip Hergovich. That's kind of the

01:04:27.380 --> 01:04:31.059
only fight worth anything on there. That should

01:04:31.059 --> 01:04:32.920
be happening. How did I miss that on the outline?

01:04:33.760 --> 01:04:36.659
I really want Joe Joyce to make a comeback. I

01:04:36.659 --> 01:04:39.480
don't think he's going to, but I want another

01:04:39.480 --> 01:04:43.059
Joe Joyce title run. I think he'll get past this.

01:04:43.219 --> 01:04:48.059
I think he'll be okay. That card should be wrapping

01:04:48.059 --> 01:04:53.420
up. At about the time we're getting to the top

01:04:53.420 --> 01:04:58.099
two for the Kazakhstan card. And that should

01:04:58.099 --> 01:05:01.139
be wrapping up about the time the main portion

01:05:01.139 --> 01:05:05.199
of PBC is starting on Prime, which should be

01:05:05.199 --> 01:05:09.360
wrapping up about the time the main portion starts

01:05:09.360 --> 01:05:12.760
for Top Rank. That is a busy day, though. It

01:05:12.760 --> 01:05:14.940
is. It's a nice day, though. It's a nice Saturday.

01:05:17.309 --> 01:05:19.590
That is going to be, if I want to watch it all,

01:05:19.690 --> 01:05:22.369
that's going to be me staying up all fucking

01:05:22.369 --> 01:05:24.730
night. Yeah, through the entire night, right?

01:05:25.349 --> 01:05:29.650
Yeah. Yeah, the British stuff, the main events

01:05:29.650 --> 01:05:34.130
are usually about 2am. That's all we got here,

01:05:34.230 --> 01:05:36.730
though. I don't have anything else. Let me do

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01:06:58.420 --> 01:07:06.170
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01:07:06.170 --> 01:07:11.289
of the upcoming cards. Yeah. So, parting words.

01:07:11.449 --> 01:07:20.110
What do you got? Parting words. Eat your vegetables.

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Drink water. Eat fruit for breakfast. If you're

01:07:28.949 --> 01:07:30.309
going to have sugar, have it in the morning.

01:07:32.880 --> 01:07:38.059
Oh, another update. That Saskatchewan taking

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Budweiser off the shelves and all that stuff

01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:44.940
didn't even last a full week. Not even a full

01:07:44.940 --> 01:07:50.820
week. Nope, I think. They started lobbying them,

01:07:50.900 --> 01:07:54.920
like the local government guys started lobbying

01:07:54.920 --> 01:07:58.400
the provincial government guys two days in, and

01:07:58.400 --> 01:08:01.860
they pulled the ban, I think, within five days.

01:08:02.940 --> 01:08:07.659
Didn't even last a whole work week. Wow. I told

01:08:07.659 --> 01:08:10.300
you the farmers would get pissed off and this

01:08:10.300 --> 01:08:14.659
would get taken care of. Yeah. I saw a video

01:08:14.659 --> 01:08:18.840
actually online. It was the farmers like dumping

01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:23.539
shit on. Was it? Yeah. On people like government

01:08:23.539 --> 01:08:28.399
buildings or people's lawns. Yeah. Blocking their

01:08:28.399 --> 01:08:33.810
driveways with a big pile of dookies. I mean,

01:08:33.810 --> 01:08:37.170
it's a pretty effective form of protest. And

01:08:37.170 --> 01:08:40.350
it's not just a Saskatchewan thing. I think the

01:08:40.350 --> 01:08:44.510
French farmers use it a lot. But the French are

01:08:44.510 --> 01:08:49.050
the best at protesting. Yeah. We want to lower

01:08:49.050 --> 01:08:53.329
the retirement age by a week. Absolutely the

01:08:53.329 --> 01:08:59.069
fuck not. All right, I got a quote for this one.

01:08:59.569 --> 01:09:02.189
A little more persistence, a little more effort.

01:09:02.569 --> 01:09:04.829
And what seemed hopeless failure may turn to

01:09:04.829 --> 01:09:08.770
glorious success, says Albert Hubbard. So when

01:09:08.770 --> 01:09:12.710
you're wondering, man, can I stay awake to watch

01:09:12.710 --> 01:09:17.069
four fucking boxing cards in a row all back to

01:09:17.069 --> 01:09:22.109
back? Just a little more persistence. Yeah. I'll

01:09:22.109 --> 01:09:24.130
just have to sleep all day Saturday, I guess.

01:09:24.270 --> 01:09:28.989
Yeah. But that'll do it. We be out of here. Bye.

01:09:41.340 --> 01:09:44.100
Welcome to the fucking show! Alright, just a

01:09:44.100 --> 01:09:46.100
quick blurb, just so you can get back to what

01:09:46.100 --> 01:09:52.319
you were doing. Why would a boxing fan, let's

01:09:52.319 --> 01:09:56.380
assume they're like a purist or some shit, why

01:09:56.380 --> 01:09:59.180
would they want to watch MMA, why would they

01:09:59.180 --> 01:10:02.220
want to listen to an MMA show? I'm gonna come

01:10:02.220 --> 01:10:05.060
at this from sort of like a primal level. So,

01:10:05.079 --> 01:10:08.380
I will admit there are like some very, like...

01:10:08.939 --> 01:10:11.899
unique and like stark differences between mma

01:10:11.899 --> 01:10:14.819
and boxing and it seems like one of the main

01:10:14.819 --> 01:10:18.420
things that uh keeps boxing fans away from mma

01:10:18.420 --> 01:10:21.979
is the grappling aspect and yes sometimes it

01:10:21.979 --> 01:10:25.739
can be you know a lay and pray uh type of fight

01:10:25.739 --> 01:10:31.020
and it can get old but man like it's just instinctual

01:10:31.020 --> 01:10:33.899
man some of these people the way they find an

01:10:33.899 --> 01:10:36.979
mma It's just brutal. And I feel like that's

01:10:36.979 --> 01:10:38.420
what it comes down to when it comes to being

01:10:38.420 --> 01:10:43.340
a combat fan, a combat sports fan. I mean, we

01:10:43.340 --> 01:10:48.819
saw it just recently. Mauricio Rufi versus Bobby

01:10:48.819 --> 01:10:52.819
Green spinning back or spinning a wheel kick.

01:10:54.159 --> 01:10:57.199
Man, I mean, they went viral. And it's something

01:10:57.199 --> 01:10:59.159
that everyone can appreciate, even boxing fans.

01:10:59.479 --> 01:11:01.960
I know if you have a few friends that are boxing

01:11:01.960 --> 01:11:06.680
fans. who I sent him that clip. I mean, and they

01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:10.579
were amazed. One even told me that they wish

01:11:10.579 --> 01:11:13.859
they would have seen it live because seeing that

01:11:13.859 --> 01:11:18.739
type of stuff live just elicits, like, a euphoric

01:11:18.739 --> 01:11:20.760
feeling that, you know, you can't get. I mean,

01:11:20.779 --> 01:11:22.380
it happens in boxing, too, whenever you see,

01:11:22.420 --> 01:11:25.260
like, an amazing fight. But I just got to say,

01:11:25.279 --> 01:11:30.000
like, in MMA, you get those type of fights as

01:11:30.000 --> 01:11:33.220
well, just in a different type. It's different,

01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:36.439
but sort of the same. It's sort of weird how

01:11:36.439 --> 01:11:38.600
I describe it, but it's different, but the same.

01:11:38.739 --> 01:11:41.560
It comes down to that same like carnal or primal

01:11:41.560 --> 01:11:46.100
instinct of just like fights. Yeah, I always

01:11:46.100 --> 01:11:49.300
think like the biggest, the easiest transition

01:11:49.300 --> 01:11:52.359
that I always recommend, I say this all the time

01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:56.840
on Ultimate Fucking Casuals, is if you're not

01:11:56.840 --> 01:12:01.880
too keen on the grappling, Muay Thai and kickboxing.

01:12:02.390 --> 01:12:05.189
are exactly where you want to start. Like, you

01:12:05.189 --> 01:12:07.529
start working on the kicks, the elbows, the knees,

01:12:07.750 --> 01:12:12.210
all that stuff, and you can come to learn to

01:12:12.210 --> 01:12:14.909
appreciate grappling. I never thought I would,

01:12:15.010 --> 01:12:19.449
and here I am. Yeah. Like I said, some of it

01:12:19.449 --> 01:12:21.750
is very boring, some of the grappling. It depends

01:12:21.750 --> 01:12:23.729
on the fighters, but sometimes, man, there's

01:12:23.729 --> 01:12:26.949
boring boxing fights all the time. Yeah. Yeah,

01:12:26.949 --> 01:12:28.850
no, yeah, you're true. I mean... Oh, you're right.

01:12:28.930 --> 01:12:31.649
But, man, some of these grapplers, man, these

01:12:31.649 --> 01:12:34.810
scrambles that they do, it is, like, pretty crazy

01:12:34.810 --> 01:12:37.329
just to see it. Like, you know, rolling around

01:12:37.329 --> 01:12:39.550
the floor. I mean, you can see the stuff that

01:12:39.550 --> 01:12:41.050
they're doing in between and the scrambles. I

01:12:41.050 --> 01:12:42.909
mean, it's sort of crazy. Flipping someone over,

01:12:43.010 --> 01:12:46.289
the trips. I mean, it can be fun. But, yeah,

01:12:46.310 --> 01:12:48.210
you're right. The easiest transition is definitely

01:12:48.210 --> 01:12:51.390
start out with Muay Thai, kickboxing, and, you

01:12:51.390 --> 01:12:54.310
know, slowly work your way into MMA. And, you

01:12:54.310 --> 01:12:57.039
know, this is the thing about... Of the ultimate

01:12:57.039 --> 01:12:59.979
fucking casuals. We will let you know which fights

01:12:59.979 --> 01:13:03.239
are going to be good. Which ones, you know, if

01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.640
you're not too in tune with the grappling, we

01:13:05.640 --> 01:13:09.300
can get maybe a little tag or a little asterisk

01:13:09.300 --> 01:13:13.220
on certain fights saying, like, this is a boxing

01:13:13.220 --> 01:13:15.979
purist type of fight. You can watch this and

01:13:15.979 --> 01:13:20.039
enjoy this. Like, we'll let you know. Yeah, we

01:13:20.039 --> 01:13:23.340
always try. Like, I came into this. The whole

01:13:23.340 --> 01:13:25.699
show was started with me. I didn't know shit.

01:13:26.109 --> 01:13:28.590
about MMA. I'd never really seen an MMA fight

01:13:28.590 --> 01:13:32.010
in its entirety in my entire life. And I came

01:13:32.010 --> 01:13:34.710
into this with nothing. And yeah, that's where

01:13:34.710 --> 01:13:36.510
we're at now is like, we're talking to like,

01:13:36.609 --> 01:13:40.170
I make sure I go out of my way to bring up Muay

01:13:40.170 --> 01:13:43.569
Thai and bring up kickboxing so that people know

01:13:43.569 --> 01:13:47.050
like this for boxing fans to know this is what,

01:13:47.090 --> 01:13:50.949
this is where you can start. All right. Well,

01:13:51.050 --> 01:13:54.329
that was about it. I really appreciate your time.

01:13:55.170 --> 01:13:58.010
Thanks, Isaac, for jumping on real quick. Thanks

01:13:58.010 --> 01:13:59.189
for having me on. All right.
