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That B -side 00:00:40.549 --> 00:00:44.229 thing. This is the B -Sides Boxing Podcast. I 00:00:44.229 --> 00:00:52.289 left with his belt and his girl. Who's fighting, 00:00:52.409 --> 00:00:54.509 like, somebody that everyone was complaining 00:00:54.509 --> 00:00:59.799 about? It's not. Oh, it's Opataya. Oh, that's 00:00:59.799 --> 00:01:02.159 right. He just had his shit announced too. That 00:01:02.159 --> 00:01:07.700 is an absolute stinker. Yeah. I didn't recognize 00:01:07.700 --> 00:01:09.780 the guy's name, but I don't think that's just 00:01:09.780 --> 00:01:11.939 because he's heavy. I think he's just not very 00:01:11.939 --> 00:01:15.260 famous. I've had this stupid cough for a month 00:01:15.260 --> 00:01:22.099 now. It won't go away. I think I might have actually 00:01:22.099 --> 00:01:24.980 caught a pretty bad lung infection when my brother 00:01:24.980 --> 00:01:27.120 was here and just ignored it because my brother 00:01:27.120 --> 00:01:33.280 was here. Oof. Which, not good. No. I convinced 00:01:33.280 --> 00:01:36.540 myself that I had pulled a muscle when I was 00:01:36.540 --> 00:01:38.540 drunk one night, but I think it might have just 00:01:38.540 --> 00:01:41.840 been my lung was hurting. Because this cough 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:47.739 won't go away. A while ago I had, um, I caught 00:01:47.739 --> 00:01:52.159 bronchitis. out of nowhere i seriously don't 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:56.239 remember where and that was uh that lasted for 00:01:56.239 --> 00:02:00.120 like a month the shit was not pleasant yeah well 00:02:00.120 --> 00:02:02.260 we're getting into when my allergies get really 00:02:02.260 --> 00:02:04.379 bad because all the cherry trees are going off 00:02:04.379 --> 00:02:07.719 so it's probably not going to get better for 00:02:07.719 --> 00:02:13.319 quite a while the air quality forecast is also 00:02:13.319 --> 00:02:16.979 shit uh sometimes stuff blows over from like 00:02:16.979 --> 00:02:20.969 india and The manufacturing areas over there? 00:02:21.189 --> 00:02:29.710 Yeah. China too, I bet. Yeah. I need more info 00:02:29.710 --> 00:02:31.990 on this one. Teofimo says he's leaving Eddie 00:02:31.990 --> 00:02:34.330 Reynoso. That, I thought, was going to be like 00:02:34.330 --> 00:02:37.729 a powerhouse move for him. Someone that'll keep 00:02:37.729 --> 00:02:41.569 him in check. What were the guys talking about 00:02:41.569 --> 00:02:48.560 this morning? Let me... I didn't see any actual 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:57.680 evidence of it, but... Keon Davis knocked out 00:02:57.680 --> 00:03:09.180 T .O. Senior? Okay, so Shakira Stevenson tweeted, 00:03:09.439 --> 00:03:14.439 Never in my life could I sit there and watch 00:03:14.439 --> 00:03:17.759 my peer knock my dad out. And not throw a single 00:03:17.759 --> 00:03:25.400 punch. And then somebody else. Was. Yeah. Like 00:03:25.400 --> 00:03:28.479 they're just chatting about it. Anyways. If Tio's 00:03:28.479 --> 00:03:30.740 dad got knocked out. He fucking deserved it. 00:03:31.000 --> 00:03:35.240 Yeah he's not the type. I'd be too upset about. 00:03:36.039 --> 00:03:41.120 Yeah. When you know the boxing dad. They're problematic. 00:03:42.060 --> 00:03:45.060 Usually. Yeah the only good one I've ever seen 00:03:45.060 --> 00:03:50.360 was. Leo Santa Cruz's dad. He was the only one 00:03:50.360 --> 00:03:54.280 who was ever really mellow. I mean, Inouye's 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:57.199 dad seems pretty chill. Lomachenko's dad's a 00:03:57.199 --> 00:04:01.219 good coach. Yeah, he coaches Usyk too, so you 00:04:01.219 --> 00:04:07.319 know he's good at it. I mean, there's more bad 00:04:07.319 --> 00:04:09.500 ones probably than good ones, but there are a 00:04:09.500 --> 00:04:14.879 couple boxing dads that seem fine. Yeah. Oh, 00:04:14.979 --> 00:04:17.970 you know what? Actually, here, I got what I want 00:04:17.970 --> 00:04:21.470 to be. The first one. Do you have the doc open? 00:04:21.970 --> 00:04:29.709 Yeah. Okay. Inouye's debut, or re -debut, in 00:04:29.709 --> 00:04:39.850 the U .S. vs. Who? Yeah. Ramon Cardenas. He's 00:04:39.850 --> 00:04:45.259 a pro box guy. He's not terrible, but... Come 00:04:45.259 --> 00:04:48.740 on, this is like an all -timer for this generation. 00:04:49.560 --> 00:04:54.399 There's no Americans that have anything for Inouye. 00:04:54.600 --> 00:04:56.439 Like, if they were going to do this, they should 00:04:56.439 --> 00:05:01.019 have done it with Fulton. Yeah, should have. 00:05:03.339 --> 00:05:09.079 Like, now there's nobody for him to fight. There's 00:05:09.079 --> 00:05:13.579 still options. I mean, I... I think the only 00:05:13.579 --> 00:05:17.160 one that still says it, but I think MJ is still 00:05:17.160 --> 00:05:23.100 a good fight to make. Yeah, I wouldn't mind seeing 00:05:23.100 --> 00:05:26.879 the MJ fight, but I mean, he's not American. 00:05:27.240 --> 00:05:29.879 True. I don't think MJ is much of a draw in the 00:05:29.879 --> 00:05:33.379 States. I would imagine he's not even a draw 00:05:33.379 --> 00:05:39.560 in Uzbekistan. Just a guess. I don't know that 00:05:39.560 --> 00:05:45.860 MJ would bring in... any more people no so this 00:05:45.860 --> 00:05:48.180 is like this is the same situation that happened 00:05:48.180 --> 00:05:50.319 with inouye the first time is he didn't have 00:05:50.319 --> 00:05:54.360 a solid opponent the opponents were all like 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:57.420 scattered throughout the rest of the card and 00:05:57.420 --> 00:06:00.019 it ended up being a stinker because the guy just 00:06:00.019 --> 00:06:02.879 came out to like he was seriously on his bike 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.160 from round the first bell all the way to the 00:06:06.160 --> 00:06:09.019 end he was on his bike and in a way it was like 00:06:09.019 --> 00:06:12.629 who did he fight in the states It was Maloney, 00:06:12.790 --> 00:06:16.250 right? He did, but that was during COVID, so... 00:06:16.250 --> 00:06:21.550 Oh, okay. Not quite the same thing. Yeah, I think 00:06:21.550 --> 00:06:30.829 he fought Jason. And he fought in Scotland once, 00:06:30.930 --> 00:06:37.930 too, didn't he? Did he? Yeah, I think so. I might 00:06:37.930 --> 00:06:46.879 be wrong. Yeah, he fought Emmanuel Rodriguez 00:06:46.879 --> 00:06:50.079 in Glasgow. That was part of the Super Series. 00:06:52.579 --> 00:06:56.300 Antonio Neves. I don't... Well, I recognize his 00:06:56.300 --> 00:06:58.360 face. I don't think I know that name. Oh, I recognize 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:04.939 his face. He's relative. Nobody. His Bach rec 00:07:04.939 --> 00:07:09.120 picture is bad. Yeah, him with a cut on his face. 00:07:10.680 --> 00:07:12.920 Some of them look stupid, but this just looks 00:07:12.920 --> 00:07:15.360 like he had his ass kicked. Yeah, they did him 00:07:15.360 --> 00:07:21.399 dirty with that one. Antonio Nieves, I was at 00:07:21.399 --> 00:07:24.779 that one. And, like, the crowd was very much 00:07:24.779 --> 00:07:27.639 in favor of Inoue. Like, he was apologizing. 00:07:27.680 --> 00:07:31.160 Like, man, I'm really sorry. I tried my best 00:07:31.160 --> 00:07:33.860 to make it exciting, but there's only so much 00:07:33.860 --> 00:07:38.339 I can do by myself without the opponent coming 00:07:38.339 --> 00:07:43.639 to compete. Everybody was completely understanding. 00:07:44.199 --> 00:07:50.439 It was at the they call it Punchbowl in StubHub 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:54.079 Center. Now it's Dignity Health Sports Park. 00:07:56.540 --> 00:08:00.459 It's like no shit a gladiator arena. Really? 00:08:00.579 --> 00:08:03.459 That sounds awesome. It's really cool. There's 00:08:03.459 --> 00:08:05.959 something about that venue. When people come 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:09.750 in they they come in like for hungry thirsty 00:08:09.750 --> 00:08:12.750 for blood they want their pound of flesh from 00:08:12.750 --> 00:08:16.589 the opponent it's nice it's wild i don't know 00:08:16.589 --> 00:08:18.810 what that venue does to people that's the one 00:08:18.810 --> 00:08:22.949 where uh brian mendoza upset fundora and he got 00:08:22.949 --> 00:08:26.050 that like leaping fucking knockout yeah yeah 00:08:26.050 --> 00:08:30.310 and he sent the tall man crumbling something 00:08:30.310 --> 00:08:33.370 about stubhub i'm gonna keep calling it stubhub 00:08:33.370 --> 00:08:38.080 because Punchbowl is kind of cheesy. Well, that's 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:42.679 also just how old people work. Dignity Health 00:08:42.679 --> 00:08:52.000 Sports Park is a mouthful. It is. I hope that 00:08:52.000 --> 00:08:57.639 the card is at least better. With this opponent, 00:08:57.820 --> 00:09:01.539 you're not going to sell just in a way by himself. 00:09:01.940 --> 00:09:05.120 You're going to have to put other... other good 00:09:05.120 --> 00:09:08.340 fights on there put abdullah mason on there uh 00:09:08.340 --> 00:09:12.220 they've already got espinoza listed to fight 00:09:12.220 --> 00:09:16.759 oh it's a double header that's right oh that's 00:09:16.759 --> 00:09:22.220 oh i'm gonna have to try to go to this i mean 00:09:22.220 --> 00:09:24.940 you had to try to go to it anyways i yeah of 00:09:24.940 --> 00:09:27.240 course i was gonna try anyway but now i'm gonna 00:09:27.240 --> 00:09:37.440 double try Oh, Nevada. My American geography 00:09:37.440 --> 00:09:40.360 is not great, but that's like next door to Arizona, 00:09:40.519 --> 00:09:46.940 right? Yeah. It would take me with a man back 00:09:46.940 --> 00:09:50.820 a while ago before COVID. I had a sports car. 00:09:51.059 --> 00:09:54.700 I could get there in like three hours. Now it's 00:09:54.700 --> 00:09:58.139 not very far. It takes me like four. I have a 00:09:58.139 --> 00:10:02.460 small car now. I mean, that's what I used to. 00:10:03.000 --> 00:10:05.720 drive most weekends to visit my parents when 00:10:05.720 --> 00:10:08.039 i went to university four hours there four hours 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:10.879 back yeah that's that's pretty much what it is 00:10:10.879 --> 00:10:15.960 and it's my i don't know if this is irresponsible 00:10:15.960 --> 00:10:19.980 probably is but i don't like i don't it's a weekend 00:10:19.980 --> 00:10:21.860 turnaround kind of thing like i don't need to 00:10:21.860 --> 00:10:24.000 get a pet sitter to come check in on them like 00:10:24.000 --> 00:10:28.080 my pets are old enough where they regulate their 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:33.909 own food consumption without me needing to make 00:10:33.909 --> 00:10:36.129 sure they don't overeat or undereat or anything. 00:10:37.049 --> 00:10:43.529 Nice. Yeah, I got big kids now. My dogs were 00:10:43.529 --> 00:10:45.909 always like that. Everybody's like, you don't 00:10:45.909 --> 00:10:47.889 have them on a feeding schedule? Because I'd 00:10:47.889 --> 00:10:50.610 be at the bar and like, fuck it, dog's fine. 00:10:51.549 --> 00:10:55.629 And I was like, no. Why would you put your dog 00:10:55.629 --> 00:10:58.110 on a feeding schedule? Then you have to be home 00:10:58.110 --> 00:11:01.929 at certain points in the day. I had that problem 00:11:01.929 --> 00:11:07.230 when my dog was younger. She's a hound, so they 00:11:07.230 --> 00:11:10.470 just gobble up everything in front of them. And 00:11:10.470 --> 00:11:14.450 she turned into a little sausage that had four 00:11:14.450 --> 00:11:19.210 little sticks, like a little kid drawing an animal 00:11:19.210 --> 00:11:22.259 or something. That's what she looked like. So 00:11:22.259 --> 00:11:24.580 I had to get her on a schedule. She's better 00:11:24.580 --> 00:11:27.340 now. Now that she's older, I can leave her stuff 00:11:27.340 --> 00:11:30.740 out and she'll be fine. No, my dogs get a certain 00:11:30.740 --> 00:11:33.000 amount of food a day. If they eat all of that 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.960 food, then they're hungry. Yep. They figure it 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:40.559 out. Yeah, she's figured it out too. If I gobble 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:43.860 it up now, I'm going to be hungry later. Yeah, 00:11:43.940 --> 00:11:46.679 our puppies, when we first got them, they were 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:51.230 probably starving. It was just like some... some 00:11:51.230 --> 00:11:54.509 guy had accidental puppies is what it was so 00:11:54.509 --> 00:11:58.049 he wasn't particularly feeding them enough or 00:11:58.049 --> 00:12:00.990 anything and when we first got them they ate 00:12:00.990 --> 00:12:05.570 everything like everything and then they'd throw 00:12:05.570 --> 00:12:10.509 up They were only allowed to eat outside, and 00:12:10.509 --> 00:12:12.549 we'd give them their bowl. They'd eat outside. 00:12:12.850 --> 00:12:14.789 They'd eat all their food, and then they'd go 00:12:14.789 --> 00:12:17.409 look for, like, grasshoppers and frogs and things. 00:12:17.590 --> 00:12:19.789 Like, these dogs thought they were starving, 00:12:19.830 --> 00:12:22.330 and then they'd throw up. But after a couple 00:12:22.330 --> 00:12:25.710 weeks, they figured it out. I have a cat that 00:12:25.710 --> 00:12:28.370 I found on the street. Like, I say it all the 00:12:28.370 --> 00:12:31.450 time. I found him under a dumpster behind a restaurant, 00:12:31.690 --> 00:12:36.809 behind a diner. And he's... fat as shit now he 00:12:36.809 --> 00:12:42.049 still eats like he's on the streets yeah even 00:12:42.049 --> 00:12:46.509 though there's always food for him but man tubby 00:12:46.509 --> 00:12:48.669 little bastard speaking of tubby little bastards 00:12:48.669 --> 00:12:53.929 adrian broner loaded fucking dice what the hell 00:12:53.929 --> 00:12:56.809 is he doing i'm i'm trying to find a story on 00:12:56.809 --> 00:12:58.889 this because this is this is just too good i 00:12:58.889 --> 00:13:00.970 know that it's a real thing i saw the headline 00:13:00.970 --> 00:13:04.230 as well but i Well, and I'm pretty sure it's 00:13:04.230 --> 00:13:06.990 a new mugshot. It's not an old mugshot that's 00:13:06.990 --> 00:13:10.490 going around. It is. Because I would recognize 00:13:10.490 --> 00:13:13.730 his old one if I saw it. Well, also, he looks 00:13:13.730 --> 00:13:17.929 old as fuck in this much mugshot. $6 million. 00:13:18.409 --> 00:13:24.250 He ripped off NBA players for $6 million. Damn. 00:13:24.269 --> 00:13:30.210 That's crazy. That is wild. I'm curious how you 00:13:30.210 --> 00:13:37.570 would even get away with that. Well, it must 00:13:37.570 --> 00:13:40.230 have been underground games, right? Of course. 00:13:40.269 --> 00:13:43.470 It was just like, quote -unquote, among friends 00:13:43.470 --> 00:13:46.990 just having fun shooting dice. Like the same 00:13:46.990 --> 00:13:50.669 way people have poker nights or whatever. Well, 00:13:50.690 --> 00:13:54.409 that's the other thing. Who plays dice with friends? 00:13:56.669 --> 00:14:01.450 It's a... How do I... It's a thing. A cultural 00:14:01.450 --> 00:14:03.970 thing? Yeah, it's like a black people thing. 00:14:04.669 --> 00:14:09.809 Playing dice. Wasn't sure how I wanted to put 00:14:09.809 --> 00:14:14.490 that, but I mean, that's what it is. I sure have 00:14:14.490 --> 00:14:17.870 never played dice for money. Well, no, that's 00:14:17.870 --> 00:14:23.549 a lie. For real money with my friend. I played 00:14:23.549 --> 00:14:30.200 poker for a little while. I guess my family does 00:14:30.200 --> 00:14:32.899 have a dice game that we play for money. Kind 00:14:32.899 --> 00:14:35.879 of big quotes on that. It's like a quarter a 00:14:35.879 --> 00:14:39.120 game. But if you decided to put real money on 00:14:39.120 --> 00:14:45.840 it, you could. Yeah, that's how the bingo was 00:14:45.840 --> 00:14:51.299 for us. I was picturing like craps. It's like 00:14:51.299 --> 00:14:55.679 a reduced, a simplified version of craps. Fair 00:14:55.679 --> 00:14:59.889 enough. But I've never played. I've seen people 00:14:59.889 --> 00:15:03.330 play. I've kind of just watched. Like, I don't 00:15:03.330 --> 00:15:05.929 understand what's happening here, but this is 00:15:05.929 --> 00:15:09.409 exciting because I see money moving hands. Yeah, 00:15:09.509 --> 00:15:12.850 yeah. Yeah, so it's fun. Loaded dice. Seriously. 00:15:13.730 --> 00:15:18.350 I've only heard of those. Well, I used to play 00:15:18.350 --> 00:15:21.409 D &D, and I had a friend that made himself a 00:15:21.409 --> 00:15:25.759 set of loaded dice. But he loaded it to be ones. 00:15:27.299 --> 00:15:29.919 Was he, like, purposefully, like, tanking it? 00:15:30.620 --> 00:15:33.539 Yeah, yeah. If he thought it was funny, he would 00:15:33.539 --> 00:15:37.379 pull out these dice and then, like, purposefully 00:15:37.379 --> 00:15:40.480 fuck up bad so the DM had to come up with something. 00:15:41.019 --> 00:15:44.139 Honestly, that is actually pretty cool. That 00:15:44.139 --> 00:15:48.000 is something I would do, 100%. Yeah, it was pretty 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:53.210 funny. And then I... also suspicious he had one 00:15:53.210 --> 00:15:57.950 that was loaded for like 17. like not a guaranteed 00:15:57.950 --> 00:16:01.529 hit but loaded that he'd usually hit but we never 00:16:01.529 --> 00:16:05.669 proved that one yeah he wouldn't he wouldn't 00:16:05.669 --> 00:16:11.750 confirm that one ever but man broner's like what 00:16:11.750 --> 00:16:15.529 are you doing dog i want to know which nba players 00:16:15.529 --> 00:16:22.259 uh who it's got to be the uh Cleveland Cavaliers. 00:16:23.240 --> 00:16:28.419 He's an Ohio guy, so it's got to be them. Yeah. 00:16:29.820 --> 00:16:31.980 Or I was wondering if just, like, one or two 00:16:31.980 --> 00:16:38.659 retired ones. Maybe. Like, I don't watch NBA. 00:16:38.840 --> 00:16:41.639 I don't either. Like, Charles Barkley or somebody. 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:45.779 Like, I want to know how famous they were. Yeah. 00:16:45.779 --> 00:16:48.679 These names that I recognize. Yeah, or you like 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:55.570 playing with the benchers. The subs. Fucking 00:16:55.570 --> 00:17:01.889 Broner. Broner, man. What are you doing? I thought 00:17:01.889 --> 00:17:05.210 he was trying to get his comeback going. Seriously, 00:17:05.529 --> 00:17:10.369 it was... It's a redemption. It would have been 00:17:10.369 --> 00:17:14.450 a redemption story. Like finally taking shit 00:17:14.450 --> 00:17:19.829 seriously. I don't know. Instead, he's out here 00:17:19.829 --> 00:17:23.109 scamming the whole hood. Right. The whole hood 00:17:23.109 --> 00:17:29.329 knows that those weren't loaded dice. He's the 00:17:29.329 --> 00:17:33.690 only he's the other one that I say my old refrain 00:17:33.690 --> 00:17:36.289 of game recognized game. Broner needs to get 00:17:36.289 --> 00:17:39.950 some help. Then it's not help that loaded dice 00:17:39.950 --> 00:17:44.390 is going to give you. Yeah, no. Broner is just 00:17:44.390 --> 00:17:47.960 he needs help. He's always going to be a big 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:52.940 what -if story. Man, because 135 Broner, before 00:17:52.940 --> 00:17:57.000 he did the jump to fight Marcos Maidana, 135 00:17:57.000 --> 00:18:00.880 Broner was a fucking problem. And no pun intended 00:18:00.880 --> 00:18:04.980 that that was his ring name. He was a problem. 00:18:05.140 --> 00:18:13.000 That guy was... I'm trying to figure out a good 00:18:13.000 --> 00:18:18.519 analogy, a good analog. for him but like super 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:24.099 fast hands really smart footwork uh counters 00:18:24.099 --> 00:18:28.299 were really sharp he was and his power was excellent 00:18:28.299 --> 00:18:33.039 at 35 and he like lost it moving up pretty boy 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:38.839 floyd almost yeah pretty boy -esque yeah like 00:18:38.839 --> 00:18:42.490 not Late career Mayweather, but early career 00:18:42.490 --> 00:18:45.930 Mayweather. People compared him to that a lot, 00:18:46.130 --> 00:18:51.269 and then he just fucked it up. Yeah. Yeah, Maidana 00:18:51.269 --> 00:18:55.710 beat more than just his undefeated record off. 00:18:57.029 --> 00:19:02.029 It's too bad. And then he goes out and gets loaded 00:19:02.029 --> 00:19:07.210 dice with a fucking tool. Have you, well, maybe, 00:19:07.349 --> 00:19:10.569 we probably haven't, but he has, like, a record 00:19:10.569 --> 00:19:14.950 label about Billions Records, and he himself 00:19:14.950 --> 00:19:18.049 has put out rap albums. They're not very good. 00:19:20.869 --> 00:19:23.369 But I gave him a shot. No, I have not heard them. 00:19:24.029 --> 00:19:28.589 I doubt it would be my kind of music. Yeah, I 00:19:28.589 --> 00:19:30.910 had to try to support my brother in bipolarness. 00:19:33.259 --> 00:19:38.000 But it was just difficult to listen to. I don't 00:19:38.000 --> 00:19:39.680 know. Maybe I don't get it. That might be what 00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:47.059 it is. I just don't get it. Oh, man. Moving down. 00:19:47.380 --> 00:19:52.000 Man, AJ. Injured. Yeah, I missed the injury. 00:19:52.160 --> 00:19:55.240 What's he injured with? I'm still trying to find 00:19:55.240 --> 00:19:59.259 out. All that I know is that they had been working 00:19:59.259 --> 00:20:02.849 towards the Tyson Fury fight. Because apparently 00:20:02.849 --> 00:20:06.990 the Saudis are interested in putting it on. And 00:20:06.990 --> 00:20:10.069 they were so interested in putting it on, they 00:20:10.069 --> 00:20:14.109 were willing to put it on in the UK. Well, if 00:20:14.109 --> 00:20:16.289 that fight happens, it has to be. It has to be. 00:20:16.349 --> 00:20:26.569 You can't put that shit in Riyadh. Yeah. I wonder 00:20:26.569 --> 00:20:31.839 if this is related to the Jake Paul. Uh, rumors. 00:20:32.519 --> 00:20:36.000 Jake Paul and AJ? Yeah, you didn't hear that? 00:20:36.180 --> 00:20:40.640 No. What? Yeah, there's rumors that Jake Paul 00:20:40.640 --> 00:20:45.380 and AJ are gonna fight. Wow. That is a big money 00:20:45.380 --> 00:20:49.839 fight. That came out, or came out, that started 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:54.779 like a week ago, and now AJ's injured? Magically. 00:20:54.779 --> 00:20:59.240 I wonder. Yeah. He didn't have anything in the 00:20:59.240 --> 00:21:02.519 pipeline. Like, why would he be feigning the 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:08.880 injury to pull out of? If he loses to Jake Paul. 00:21:09.259 --> 00:21:12.299 It would be time to, that's time to hang it up. 00:21:13.039 --> 00:21:17.200 Become an influencer or something. Because that 00:21:17.200 --> 00:21:21.079 shit is unacceptable. You're an actual, legit, 00:21:21.259 --> 00:21:24.460 two -time heavyweight champion. And you lose 00:21:24.460 --> 00:21:28.480 to Jake Paul? Time to pack it in, champion. It's 00:21:28.480 --> 00:21:35.710 time to go home. Yeah. So what's Eddie Hearn's 00:21:35.710 --> 00:21:40.829 quote in this Daily Mail article? He needs another 00:21:40.829 --> 00:21:43.390 eight weeks or so on his injury. He had a little 00:21:43.390 --> 00:21:45.609 bit of a setback and he won't be punching for 00:21:45.609 --> 00:21:48.150 about that period of time. Broken hand. So really, 00:21:48.289 --> 00:21:51.589 yeah, it's got to be a hand or a torn bicep, 00:21:51.589 --> 00:21:56.799 right? Yeah. It was a minor setback, but he's 00:21:56.799 --> 00:21:59.299 got to be physically right before he gets into 00:21:59.299 --> 00:22:04.480 training camp. Yeah, no shit. I'm just reading 00:22:04.480 --> 00:22:08.099 the quotes. No, I'm not saying you. No shit, 00:22:08.180 --> 00:22:10.079 Eddie, of course. That's the fucking point of 00:22:10.079 --> 00:22:12.759 camp. You go into it healthy, and then you improve 00:22:12.759 --> 00:22:17.519 from that. I don't know why he would... Well, 00:22:17.599 --> 00:22:19.420 I don't know shit about training, I guess. I 00:22:19.420 --> 00:22:21.460 don't know why he'd be punching anything hard 00:22:21.460 --> 00:22:23.299 enough to break his hand, though. I wonder if 00:22:23.299 --> 00:22:27.519 it's a weightlifting injury. Because AJ looks 00:22:27.519 --> 00:22:30.099 like he likes to lift weights between camps. 00:22:30.259 --> 00:22:34.960 He does do the Olympic -style power cleans and 00:22:34.960 --> 00:22:38.940 that type of stuff. The explosive type of lifting. 00:22:40.000 --> 00:22:42.400 You could tear a bicep doing that pretty easy, 00:22:42.460 --> 00:22:45.170 I think. But yeah, I'm not sure how you would 00:22:45.170 --> 00:22:47.470 break a hand doing that unless you drop a weight 00:22:47.470 --> 00:22:52.589 on yourself. I mean, it could happen. It could. 00:22:53.250 --> 00:22:55.410 It's just difficult. That would be pretty stupid. 00:22:56.509 --> 00:23:00.190 In all my time powerlifting, I dropped a weight. 00:23:01.369 --> 00:23:05.250 It fell and then it landed on my foot after it 00:23:05.250 --> 00:23:09.029 fell and just kind of flopped over. So there's 00:23:09.029 --> 00:23:13.259 that. Broken hands. I guess if you can't stand 00:23:13.259 --> 00:23:15.940 properly, you can't punch properly. It could 00:23:15.940 --> 00:23:18.180 be a foot. It could be anything. It could be 00:23:18.180 --> 00:23:20.140 anything. I'm thinking if he's needing eight 00:23:20.140 --> 00:23:25.160 weeks, it's a broken bone or like a torn ligament. 00:23:26.740 --> 00:23:29.519 Yeah. It's got to be. I don't know why I went 00:23:29.519 --> 00:23:32.819 straight to bicep, but my gut's telling me torn 00:23:32.819 --> 00:23:35.519 bicep. Yeah. He's getting a little older. He 00:23:35.519 --> 00:23:38.539 likes to lift weights. That takes about eight 00:23:38.539 --> 00:23:42.470 weeks. yeah that exactly it's something torn 00:23:42.470 --> 00:23:48.009 and or uh broken bone depending on the location 00:23:48.009 --> 00:23:53.769 like my hands when i broke them took uh six to 00:23:53.769 --> 00:24:00.069 eight weeks so makes sense but god um the other 00:24:00.069 --> 00:24:03.950 other than tyson fury i didn't know jake paul 00:24:03.950 --> 00:24:07.960 was on the table that's pretty fucking cool Yeah, 00:24:08.140 --> 00:24:11.559 AJ said he would fight Jake Paul. Good, good. 00:24:11.920 --> 00:24:14.460 He'll just do the same thing he did to Ngannou. 00:24:14.539 --> 00:24:19.599 Just, like, end the farce. Yeah, it would be 00:24:19.599 --> 00:24:25.220 good. I'm not seeing in this little report I 00:24:25.220 --> 00:24:28.980 got that the top half of his body is injured 00:24:28.980 --> 00:24:35.460 from Eddie Hearn. That's his words. i'm on a 00:24:35.460 --> 00:24:38.859 boxing news here the top half of his body there 00:24:38.859 --> 00:24:40.779 you go i'll give you that it's nothing major 00:24:40.779 --> 00:24:43.759 he's returning to he's been returning to training 00:24:43.759 --> 00:24:47.180 he's not quite ready to turn back to camp eight 00:24:47.180 --> 00:24:49.940 to ten weeks before he can punch properly that's 00:24:49.940 --> 00:24:54.000 it like yeah yeah it's a broken hand there is 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.440 a bicep it's got to be something yes it's a pretty 00:24:57.440 --> 00:25:02.099 serious injury mild moderately serious we'll 00:25:02.099 --> 00:25:07.519 say not career AJ's getting old yeah AJ's uh 00:25:07.519 --> 00:25:13.140 younger than me yeah but he's getting old yes 00:25:13.140 --> 00:25:15.539 I am that's what I mean is that I'm old as shit 00:25:15.539 --> 00:25:21.319 so that was I hadn't watched the NHL for a long 00:25:21.319 --> 00:25:23.640 time and I watched it and I was like how is this 00:25:23.640 --> 00:25:26.319 guy still playing and then I looked closer and 00:25:26.319 --> 00:25:29.480 it's like his son oh he's in the NHL now and 00:25:29.480 --> 00:25:34.710 I was like fuck Like, stab me in the heart, Father 00:25:34.710 --> 00:25:44.750 Kai. Man, stabs in the heart. The TKO. The Dana 00:25:44.750 --> 00:25:48.970 White Saudi Boxing League TKO boxing. The pay 00:25:48.970 --> 00:25:53.170 structure has come out. And it is atrocious. 00:25:54.049 --> 00:25:58.829 Oh, my God, is it atrocious. So let's just, here's 00:25:58.829 --> 00:26:03.619 just the flat numbers. 20 ,000 for unranked fighters 00:26:03.619 --> 00:26:08.880 fighting in a 10 -round bout. 20 ,000. 50 ,000 00:26:08.880 --> 00:26:12.079 for fighters ranked in the bottom of the top 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:21.259 10. 125 for third and fourth. 375 for a championship 00:26:21.259 --> 00:26:25.680 challenger. And 750 for the champion defending 00:26:25.680 --> 00:26:29.519 his title. These do not sound like big numbers 00:26:29.519 --> 00:26:34.519 to me. This is not boxing standard. Oh, we're 00:26:34.519 --> 00:26:37.440 shaking up the sport. Yeah, you're going to not 00:26:37.440 --> 00:26:41.880 get anybody worth a fuck. My one question is, 00:26:41.960 --> 00:26:46.640 the UFC does pay the trainers and that sort of 00:26:46.640 --> 00:26:51.079 stuff, right? They pay the cutmen. I don't know 00:26:51.079 --> 00:26:55.359 if they pay the trainers directly. I couldn't 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:59.470 say that. Yeah, I don't watch the UFC, but my 00:26:59.470 --> 00:27:02.470 understanding, and I could be very wrong, somebody 00:27:02.470 --> 00:27:06.190 can correct me, was that they pay the training 00:27:06.190 --> 00:27:10.349 fees and a bunch of those other things and medical 00:27:10.349 --> 00:27:13.509 bills and things, and then the fighter actually 00:27:13.509 --> 00:27:18.009 gets all this money themselves. Oh, even though 00:27:18.009 --> 00:27:20.349 the cost is lower, they're not having to split 00:27:20.349 --> 00:27:28.220 it amongst XYZ. Yeah, like the league pays some 00:27:28.220 --> 00:27:31.859 of the quite a bit of the expenses. They have 00:27:31.859 --> 00:27:36.380 medical staff and stuff on retainer. The only 00:27:36.380 --> 00:27:39.900 way this makes sense at all is if they're doing 00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:43.160 something like that with the boxing, where you 00:27:43.160 --> 00:27:47.400 don't have to pay as much of the out -of -pocket 00:27:47.400 --> 00:27:51.200 things for your team. But this still doesn't 00:27:51.200 --> 00:27:55.710 seem like very much money to me. No. Like 20 00:27:55.710 --> 00:27:58.630 grand? Even if they're buying your equipment 00:27:58.630 --> 00:28:02.930 and your training and stuff, I make fucking 20 00:28:02.930 --> 00:28:08.289 grand in six months. It doesn't seem like very 00:28:08.289 --> 00:28:10.250 much money to go put your health on the line. 00:28:11.170 --> 00:28:18.410 20 grand at the peak of my powers. That's, yeah, 00:28:18.490 --> 00:28:23.200 like two, maybe three months. But that was, like, 00:28:23.240 --> 00:28:28.059 peak time for me. Otherwise, yeah, that's my 00:28:28.059 --> 00:28:32.440 six months, too. This isn't. And these are high 00:28:32.440 --> 00:28:34.940 -level professional athletes. That wasn't supposed 00:28:34.940 --> 00:28:37.259 to be a brag or anything. I don't think making 00:28:37.259 --> 00:28:40.599 $20 ,000 in six months is very impressive. No. 00:28:40.779 --> 00:28:45.380 No. When you're talking about professional fighters, 00:28:45.640 --> 00:28:48.839 like, that is not a lot of money. I expect better. 00:28:49.529 --> 00:28:52.329 And how many 10 round bouts do people really 00:28:52.329 --> 00:28:54.809 like once you're getting up into the 10 rounders, 00:28:54.849 --> 00:28:56.650 you're doing like two or three fights a year 00:28:56.650 --> 00:29:00.089 usually, right? Two or three, like three is probably 00:29:00.089 --> 00:29:05.029 maximum. If you got an early stoppage in one 00:29:05.029 --> 00:29:08.609 of them, perhaps. Max, you're going to make 60 00:29:08.609 --> 00:29:14.309 grand a year. Assuming, assuming that this league 00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:16.710 or whatever they're calling themselves pays for 00:29:16.710 --> 00:29:20.500 fucking everything else. that's not very much 00:29:20.500 --> 00:29:23.559 money that's a very strong like a very generous 00:29:23.559 --> 00:29:27.099 assumption too i highly doubt they're gonna they'll 00:29:27.099 --> 00:29:30.819 have um it's like the ufc like from what i understand 00:29:30.819 --> 00:29:33.839 they're gonna have some of the ufc infrastructure 00:29:33.839 --> 00:29:36.359 on the back end available to them so they'll 00:29:36.359 --> 00:29:38.900 have training facilities they'll have medical 00:29:38.900 --> 00:29:41.420 facilities that they could go to so those things 00:29:41.420 --> 00:29:43.420 are taken care of but like paying your coach 00:29:43.420 --> 00:29:48.069 that's on you i would imagine and other lodging 00:29:48.069 --> 00:29:52.089 housing expenses or logistical expenses that's 00:29:52.089 --> 00:29:55.329 on you and how you arrange that out of how do 00:29:55.329 --> 00:29:57.650 you arrange that out of 20k because like if you're 00:29:57.650 --> 00:30:00.430 getting robert garcia you're paying that man 00:30:00.430 --> 00:30:02.990 a lot of money for his time his time is extremely 00:30:02.990 --> 00:30:09.809 valuable uh yeah this is nonsense like best case 00:30:09.809 --> 00:30:14.450 scenario absolute best case scenario you you're 00:30:14.450 --> 00:30:20.099 making construction worker money like i don't 00:30:20.099 --> 00:30:22.460 know i just i don't see this being a good deal 00:30:22.460 --> 00:30:27.619 for anyone to sign on with these guys no like 00:30:27.619 --> 00:30:31.059 i don't i think we when this first came up when 00:30:31.059 --> 00:30:33.160 we first talked about it it was they're gonna 00:30:33.160 --> 00:30:37.079 get a lot of just kids signing on and they're 00:30:37.079 --> 00:30:42.420 gonna like uh grow them up through this league 00:30:42.420 --> 00:30:44.359 structure and they're not gonna know any better 00:30:46.060 --> 00:30:51.400 Yeah, but they're not going to be in North Korea. 00:30:53.440 --> 00:30:56.220 They're going to talk to other boxers. They're 00:30:56.220 --> 00:30:59.660 going to realize they're getting fucked. Eventually. 00:31:00.480 --> 00:31:07.480 Because of how boxing works and how it works 00:31:07.480 --> 00:31:12.079 with the UFC as well, how it works with the athletic 00:31:12.079 --> 00:31:13.920 commissions, how much they get paid is public 00:31:13.920 --> 00:31:17.289 record. So that's how we know Canelo's getting 00:31:17.289 --> 00:31:21.869 paid $35 million on his guarantee. And then we 00:31:21.869 --> 00:31:24.170 don't know what his splits are, but we know he 00:31:24.170 --> 00:31:28.089 gets a split on pay -per -view and gate. And 00:31:28.089 --> 00:31:31.210 these guys are not going to get that at all. 00:31:31.250 --> 00:31:34.970 Not even a little bit. Not even these $750K for 00:31:34.970 --> 00:31:38.250 a title defense. Canelo defending his title against 00:31:38.250 --> 00:31:43.470 Edgar fucking Berlanga. He made $750K just walking 00:31:43.470 --> 00:31:47.539 to the ring. This is ridiculous. I know that 00:31:47.539 --> 00:31:49.920 Canelo is not a good example because he's like 00:31:49.920 --> 00:31:59.579 the very peak of the sport. But who's a title 00:31:59.579 --> 00:32:05.839 holder that isn't very popular? Espinosa. Yeah. 00:32:07.579 --> 00:32:12.779 He's making more than $750 ,000 a fight. I am 00:32:12.779 --> 00:32:15.500 beyond certain. He's making more than that much. 00:32:19.119 --> 00:32:22.599 Madrimov? Like, what did Madrimov get paid? To 00:32:22.599 --> 00:32:26.799 fight Bud? That's not quite the... Not quite 00:32:26.799 --> 00:32:29.559 the same. Yeah, because the Saudis are... They 00:32:29.559 --> 00:32:35.319 inflate... That's true. Paychecks. The same shit 00:32:35.319 --> 00:32:38.140 that people were complaining about with Al -Hayman. 00:32:38.700 --> 00:32:42.539 Saudis are doing some of the same things. I'm 00:32:42.539 --> 00:32:47.819 not seeing a lot of the same complaints. Curious. 00:32:47.819 --> 00:32:53.000 Yeah. I don't know, man. I think this league's 00:32:53.000 --> 00:32:55.519 just going to fuck over a bunch of kids and then 00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:59.140 disappear. Yeah, they're not going to last. Dana 00:32:59.140 --> 00:33:01.079 White's been trying to get himself into boxing 00:33:01.079 --> 00:33:05.519 for ages. Well, and I don't know anything about 00:33:05.519 --> 00:33:09.339 this either, but the guys on the Pro Box podcast... 00:33:09.710 --> 00:33:13.150 Like Chris Algieri and what's his name? Pauly? 00:33:13.250 --> 00:33:16.069 That one's Pauly, yeah. They've been talking 00:33:16.069 --> 00:33:19.769 about the Muhammad Ali Act and how this structure 00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:24.250 just like is completely illegal. Yeah, actually, 00:33:24.430 --> 00:33:28.009 that's a good point. They keep just going, but, 00:33:28.009 --> 00:33:31.490 you know, Trump can change that and he likes 00:33:31.490 --> 00:33:37.130 Dana White. So they need the government to step 00:33:37.130 --> 00:33:41.369 in and change the laws for this to even be possible. 00:33:41.890 --> 00:33:46.150 Not necessarily. What they need, and which is 00:33:46.150 --> 00:33:48.769 what they're going to get, is they need for the 00:33:48.769 --> 00:33:52.349 law, for the Muhammad Ali Act, to not be enforced. 00:33:53.650 --> 00:33:55.950 Fair enough. Yeah, they don't need a change. 00:33:55.990 --> 00:33:59.980 They just need it to not be enforced. This lines 00:33:59.980 --> 00:34:02.380 up perfectly. Of course he's getting into boxing 00:34:02.380 --> 00:34:05.240 now. Now that somebody is in the White House 00:34:05.240 --> 00:34:08.440 who's not going to enforce the Ali Act. Because 00:34:08.440 --> 00:34:10.820 if anybody tries to bring the case, the case 00:34:10.820 --> 00:34:13.480 will just get sent to a court that is favorable 00:34:13.480 --> 00:34:18.599 to Dana White and Trump. And it won't even be 00:34:18.599 --> 00:34:23.739 heard. I would like to say I don't think that 00:34:23.739 --> 00:34:28.909 would happen, but that could happen. But this 00:34:28.909 --> 00:34:31.849 this structure is just straight up illegal in 00:34:31.849 --> 00:34:35.530 the US right now. If the yeah, if there was some 00:34:35.530 --> 00:34:39.550 just all things taking the political figureheads 00:34:39.550 --> 00:34:44.610 out of the equation. Yes. Illegal. But and I 00:34:44.610 --> 00:34:47.449 don't really understand. Like, I haven't done 00:34:47.449 --> 00:34:51.369 any research into it. This is me kind of summarizing 00:34:51.369 --> 00:34:54.989 what they're saying. But it's because the promoters 00:34:54.989 --> 00:35:01.039 and the managers. can't also be yeah they can't 00:35:01.039 --> 00:35:02.860 be the same person and there's something about 00:35:02.860 --> 00:35:07.320 the league structure as well like you need to 00:35:07.320 --> 00:35:13.800 have a semblance of fighting outside your own 00:35:13.800 --> 00:35:17.780 little group as well i think i didn't really 00:35:17.780 --> 00:35:20.699 understand but if anybody's interested they've 00:35:20.699 --> 00:35:23.300 been talking about it over on the pro box podcast 00:35:23.300 --> 00:35:27.170 thing on youtube for weeks now there's lots of 00:35:27.170 --> 00:35:30.389 information from those two and algeria does a 00:35:30.389 --> 00:35:34.130 podcast with some other guy too and they talked 00:35:34.130 --> 00:35:37.869 about it as well can't remember what that one's 00:35:37.869 --> 00:35:41.510 called or who the guy is is it john boy or something 00:35:41.510 --> 00:35:45.829 that sounds familiar but i don't i don't know 00:35:45.829 --> 00:35:52.260 it's precisely the guy the guy's dad invented 00:35:52.260 --> 00:35:57.159 CompuBox like he started okay yeah anyways him 00:35:57.159 --> 00:36:00.480 and Algieri do a podcast as well I just like 00:36:00.480 --> 00:36:04.179 Chris Algieri he seems intelligent he is he is 00:36:04.179 --> 00:36:08.300 100 absolutely intelligent um yeah I'm gonna 00:36:08.300 --> 00:36:10.840 have to check out the pro box see what they have 00:36:10.840 --> 00:36:15.840 to say like on how and Pauly whatever his other 00:36:15.840 --> 00:36:18.989 faults might be he's actually smarter than i 00:36:18.989 --> 00:36:21.309 thought he was yeah he's actually whatever his 00:36:21.309 --> 00:36:23.809 other faults he's he is not stupid he is not 00:36:23.809 --> 00:36:28.210 a stupid person at all no so i hate him as a 00:36:28.210 --> 00:36:32.789 commentator but on the um on the podcast he's 00:36:32.789 --> 00:36:34.989 actually like he brings up some good points and 00:36:34.989 --> 00:36:38.849 he's not afraid to go against the grain yeah 00:36:38.849 --> 00:36:45.050 and be loud about things yeah that's uh yeah 00:36:45.050 --> 00:36:49.570 like i said despite his myriad of faults, at 00:36:49.570 --> 00:36:53.429 least as I see them anyway. The guy does, when 00:36:53.429 --> 00:36:55.809 it comes to boxing and boxing business, he knows 00:36:55.809 --> 00:36:59.110 what he's talking about. Yeah, and he loves yelling, 00:36:59.309 --> 00:37:01.670 yeah, and if my aunt had balls, she'd be my uncle. 00:37:01.750 --> 00:37:04.510 What the fuck are we talking about here? It's 00:37:04.510 --> 00:37:06.250 like his unofficial catchphrase. That sounds 00:37:06.250 --> 00:37:10.829 exactly like something he would say. Yeah. Anyway, 00:37:10.989 --> 00:37:14.650 I highly recommend the Pro Box podcast. I really 00:37:14.650 --> 00:37:17.769 enjoy it. I highly recommend Probox fucking anything. 00:37:19.190 --> 00:37:23.190 Probox is good. Probox? I am pissed. It's not 00:37:23.190 --> 00:37:26.130 on the schedule for us to talk about, but I am 00:37:26.130 --> 00:37:28.849 pissed they moved to the weekend. I am too. God. 00:37:29.610 --> 00:37:32.809 Damn, I'm so upset that they did that. Like, 00:37:32.809 --> 00:37:36.289 why? You had your niche. Yeah. Stay on Wednesday. 00:37:36.530 --> 00:37:39.349 Wednesday night fights was your thing. Yeah. 00:37:39.869 --> 00:37:42.130 People were excited. You weren't competing with 00:37:42.130 --> 00:37:45.150 anything. Get the fuck back on Wednesday. Like, 00:37:45.150 --> 00:37:48.550 when you're on Saturday, there's gonna be bigger 00:37:48.550 --> 00:37:50.429 fights I'm gonna watch, and then I have to come 00:37:50.429 --> 00:37:53.449 back and watch you later. But for me, Thursday 00:37:53.449 --> 00:37:57.329 morning, I just made it so I had, like, a long 00:37:57.329 --> 00:37:59.750 incubation at work where I had to sit at my desk 00:37:59.750 --> 00:38:03.829 for an hour. Oh, woe is me. I just have to stay 00:38:03.829 --> 00:38:08.969 at my desk. Oh, no. Yeah. Hmm. Too bad that there's 00:38:08.969 --> 00:38:13.090 this boxing on Thursday morning. Yeah, it was 00:38:13.090 --> 00:38:18.750 fun. It was the Wednesday night fun. For all 00:38:18.750 --> 00:38:23.929 the quote -unquote hardcore fans, I'd ping the 00:38:23.929 --> 00:38:26.030 hardcore fans like, hey, Pro Box is about to 00:38:26.030 --> 00:38:29.710 start. Let's fucking crack a cold one, man, because 00:38:29.710 --> 00:38:32.070 I don't know what we're about to see, but it's 00:38:32.070 --> 00:38:36.550 going to be fucking wild. Yeah. But on Saturday, 00:38:36.710 --> 00:38:38.730 there's just other shit going on. Exactly. I'm 00:38:38.730 --> 00:38:41.489 not going to ditch. I'm not going to not watch 00:38:41.489 --> 00:38:45.110 Tank Roach so that I can watch Pro Box instead. 00:38:45.369 --> 00:38:49.110 It's not going to happen. I watched Pro Box later. 00:38:49.449 --> 00:38:53.909 Of course. I do too. But it's not as fun. And 00:38:53.909 --> 00:38:59.650 nobody's online to talk shit. It's just not as 00:38:59.650 --> 00:39:02.050 fun. I try to do that sometimes. Go back to Wednesday. 00:39:02.329 --> 00:39:06.219 Yeah, go back to Wednesday. their numbers were 00:39:06.219 --> 00:39:08.920 solid like they would put up they would show 00:39:08.920 --> 00:39:11.059 their numbers sometimes i think they it was an 00:39:11.059 --> 00:39:16.039 advertisement for i'm not for sponsors i think 00:39:16.039 --> 00:39:19.679 it was like like look at the number of like concurrent 00:39:19.679 --> 00:39:23.920 viewers peak viewers that type of stuff yeah 00:39:23.920 --> 00:39:25.820 they were getting like hundreds of thousands 00:39:25.820 --> 00:39:28.300 of people sometimes hundreds of thousands like 00:39:28.300 --> 00:39:32.269 peak concurrent viewers was in the millions like 00:39:32.269 --> 00:39:35.289 one one one two at some time or i think that 00:39:35.289 --> 00:39:37.550 was over the span of all their cards in a month 00:39:37.550 --> 00:39:40.329 but nonetheless that's still a lot of people 00:39:40.329 --> 00:39:45.309 yeah like i don't know man go back to wednesday 00:39:45.309 --> 00:39:47.829 seriously go back to wednesday in your lane yeah 00:39:47.829 --> 00:39:52.309 oh shit thanks for the t up speaking of staying 00:39:52.309 --> 00:39:56.360 in your lane tiofimo lopez leaves Eddie Reynoso. 00:39:56.780 --> 00:40:01.619 What a fucking mistake. I cannot. This is a mistake. 00:40:02.840 --> 00:40:06.980 Yeah, but did Tio Fimo leave Reynoso or did Reynoso 00:40:06.980 --> 00:40:09.579 kick him out? And he's letting him save face. 00:40:10.440 --> 00:40:17.300 Tio's seeming very crazy right now. All right. 00:40:17.320 --> 00:40:21.920 I got some Lopez quotes here. I got news for 00:40:21.920 --> 00:40:24.760 you guys. I won't be trading with them. i .e. 00:40:24.800 --> 00:40:27.420 the Reynoso camp. I was looking forward to leaving 00:40:27.420 --> 00:40:31.559 tomorrow for camp with them. Maybe they don't 00:40:31.559 --> 00:40:33.420 feel I'm focused, which is pretty interesting. 00:40:33.739 --> 00:40:35.980 Could be a lot of things, just time frame. Maybe 00:40:35.980 --> 00:40:40.800 could be promoting. Eddie doesn't really elaborate. 00:40:41.840 --> 00:40:45.860 Didn't elaborate and speak to my father. I don't 00:40:45.860 --> 00:40:49.440 know if I did something wrong or if it was me 00:40:49.440 --> 00:40:54.880 or if they're just focused on themselves. Yeah, 00:40:54.980 --> 00:40:59.300 that sounds like Reynoso choosing not to train 00:40:59.300 --> 00:41:03.940 Tio. And I don't really blame him. Tio's seeming 00:41:03.940 --> 00:41:06.340 really crazy, and so is his father right now. 00:41:06.880 --> 00:41:10.659 Yeah, well, they're trying to promote their next 00:41:10.659 --> 00:41:16.460 card. Yeah, but I wouldn't want to deal with 00:41:16.460 --> 00:41:19.360 that. And to be honest, you could probably deal 00:41:19.360 --> 00:41:22.829 with Tio being crazy, but it's his dad. Nobody 00:41:22.829 --> 00:41:26.309 wants to deal with his dad. I thought this was 00:41:26.309 --> 00:41:29.050 them. I thought that if anybody was going to 00:41:29.050 --> 00:41:34.829 be able to cut Teofimo Sr. out of this, it would 00:41:34.829 --> 00:41:38.570 have been Eddie. And just the quality of that 00:41:38.570 --> 00:41:42.590 camp would have been enough to get him out of 00:41:42.590 --> 00:41:47.670 the driver's seat. I think Eddie probably thought 00:41:47.670 --> 00:41:50.210 he could cut him out as well. And I wouldn't 00:41:50.210 --> 00:41:52.949 be surprised if that was the deciding factor, 00:41:53.210 --> 00:42:03.690 was Tio's dad refusing to be cut. Yeah. I feel 00:42:03.690 --> 00:42:06.409 so bad for Tio. And every time his dad talks 00:42:06.409 --> 00:42:08.309 to him when he's being interviewed and stuff, 00:42:08.449 --> 00:42:13.010 you can just see him get so tense and flustered. 00:42:14.349 --> 00:42:19.170 yeah been saying it he needs to his career was 00:42:19.170 --> 00:42:22.469 i don't know if it's resurgence or what but the 00:42:22.469 --> 00:42:25.590 second wind of what his career is right now is 00:42:25.590 --> 00:42:29.670 gonna start when he ditches his dad and that's 00:42:29.670 --> 00:42:34.190 obviously a lot to ask uh but nonetheless like 00:42:34.190 --> 00:42:39.750 your own success depends on it yeah well i think 00:42:39.750 --> 00:42:43.420 that really is a big part of what holds teo back 00:42:43.420 --> 00:42:47.260 yeah absolutely i suspect if he got away from 00:42:47.260 --> 00:42:50.500 his dad it would help with the crazy just getting 00:42:50.500 --> 00:42:53.420 away from his dad but other people could step 00:42:53.420 --> 00:42:57.280 in and actually get him help with the crazy here 00:42:57.280 --> 00:43:03.699 another quote is it doesn't make sense whatever 00:43:03.699 --> 00:43:06.219 the case may be we love them we appreciate them 00:43:06.219 --> 00:43:10.460 i appreciate having that time with eddie uh from 00:43:10.460 --> 00:43:13.250 that experience a little bit It won't be the 00:43:13.250 --> 00:43:16.570 end of our story with them. They're just on tunnel 00:43:16.570 --> 00:43:21.469 vision right now. We'll see. Am I disappointed 00:43:21.469 --> 00:43:24.530 about it? Yeah, I am, but I take it as competition. 00:43:25.750 --> 00:43:27.670 I don't think they would have put me as the co 00:43:27.670 --> 00:43:30.230 -main to Canelo. I think they would have put 00:43:30.230 --> 00:43:34.969 me underneath Munguia, who is the co -main. He's 00:43:34.969 --> 00:43:37.570 a great fighter, but he's not Teofimo. When you 00:43:37.570 --> 00:43:43.460 refer to yourself in the third person, I... I 00:43:43.460 --> 00:43:45.860 was going to say I'd like to smack you, but you'd 00:43:45.860 --> 00:43:49.239 beat my ass anyway, so let's not do that. Yeah. 00:43:51.420 --> 00:43:54.239 Yeah, I feel really bad for Tio, but those quotes 00:43:54.239 --> 00:43:57.159 really do make it sound like Reynoso decided 00:43:57.159 --> 00:43:59.960 not to train him. Yeah, I think you're right. 00:44:00.179 --> 00:44:02.179 I think you're right. It's unfortunate because 00:44:02.179 --> 00:44:06.840 Tio deserves... He deserves better than his father 00:44:06.840 --> 00:44:13.610 lets him get. Yeah. No, Tio... It doesn't seem 00:44:13.610 --> 00:44:15.929 to me like Tio has a very good life at home. 00:44:16.530 --> 00:44:24.030 No. His family drove him to divorce, and now 00:44:24.030 --> 00:44:26.389 he doesn't get to see his kid. Not very often, 00:44:26.429 --> 00:44:33.610 anyway. Yeah. Nah, I feel bad for Tio. But I 00:44:33.610 --> 00:44:36.489 really don't know what we're going to see. In 00:44:36.489 --> 00:44:39.449 his next fight. I cannot nail it down at all. 00:44:39.630 --> 00:44:41.789 Like, the crazy levels are high enough we might 00:44:41.789 --> 00:44:46.250 get peak T .O., but his opponent is mid enough, 00:44:46.329 --> 00:44:50.070 he might not. 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I know he does. But 00:47:43.380 --> 00:47:46.840 my man is taking care of fucking business. He 00:47:46.840 --> 00:47:49.440 gets Serrano paid. He's going to get Baumgartner 00:47:49.440 --> 00:47:54.940 paid. He is a very positive force for boxing. 00:47:55.219 --> 00:47:57.519 This is like what... the type of shit that you 00:47:57.519 --> 00:48:00.159 would hope someone with the clout Dana White 00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.260 has, this is what you would hope they would do 00:48:02.260 --> 00:48:08.420 is to elevate women's fights, uh, smaller weight 00:48:08.420 --> 00:48:11.579 classes, elevate those fights. That's what he 00:48:11.579 --> 00:48:15.139 does. That's what Jake Paul does. Um, you can, 00:48:15.219 --> 00:48:17.900 if you disagree with me, fucking eight, three, 00:48:17.980 --> 00:48:21.960 three Lux pots. Tell me why. Tell me why you're 00:48:21.960 --> 00:48:27.469 wrong about Jake Paul. Jake Paul as a promoter 00:48:27.469 --> 00:48:31.210 is good. Yeah. Jake Paul as a fucking circus 00:48:31.210 --> 00:48:35.389 act, I hate. As a personality, yes. He's doing 00:48:35.389 --> 00:48:40.929 exactly what... You are reacting to him one of 00:48:40.929 --> 00:48:43.750 the ways that he wants you to. You either hate 00:48:43.750 --> 00:48:46.030 him, you love him, or you hate him. And I get 00:48:46.030 --> 00:48:51.010 why people hate. I get it. I really, really do. 00:48:52.079 --> 00:48:54.179 Do not misunderstand the guy's fucking annoying 00:48:54.179 --> 00:48:58.739 when he's in the fighter position and he's promoting 00:48:58.739 --> 00:49:03.920 himself. But Serrano and Katie Taylor, they've 00:49:03.920 --> 00:49:09.619 made life -changing money. Better than any of 00:49:09.619 --> 00:49:14.559 that TKO pay structure bullshit. Oh, for sure. 00:49:15.320 --> 00:49:19.099 And now Baumgartner, who is another very, very 00:49:19.099 --> 00:49:23.809 talented woman. super athletic, fucking explosive, 00:49:24.110 --> 00:49:27.949 dynamic. I'm not sure what other buzzwords I 00:49:27.949 --> 00:49:31.210 could use, but she is awesome. I'm really glad 00:49:31.210 --> 00:49:33.690 to see her getting signed to someone who's going 00:49:33.690 --> 00:49:35.389 to give her the attention that she deserves. 00:49:36.610 --> 00:49:40.190 She has a lot of belts right now, right? Yes. 00:49:40.250 --> 00:49:42.349 Baumgartner? I think she's undisputed. Is she 00:49:42.349 --> 00:49:48.329 undisputed? Yeah. Wow, you can't check that on 00:49:48.329 --> 00:49:52.159 BoxRec anymore, can you? You'd have to look up 00:49:52.159 --> 00:49:57.219 WBA separately, but if she has the IBO, it's 00:49:57.219 --> 00:50:01.480 safe to assume she has the WBA as well. She has 00:50:01.480 --> 00:50:10.159 the IBF and then IBO. Oh, so she's not. Oh, yeah. 00:50:10.260 --> 00:50:15.699 She fought Delphine Pursuit in Georgia. They 00:50:15.699 --> 00:50:18.599 had that no contest. I think Delphine got a nasty 00:50:18.599 --> 00:50:26.130 cut. Right. Yeah, I think that was just a head 00:50:26.130 --> 00:50:28.429 clash, wasn't it? It was. It was an accidental. 00:50:30.210 --> 00:50:33.110 The little bit I could see from the replay didn't 00:50:33.110 --> 00:50:38.090 look intentional in any way. I wouldn't expect 00:50:38.090 --> 00:50:40.570 either of those guys to intentionally be throwing 00:50:40.570 --> 00:50:49.300 headbutts. Okay, so she is the IVF. World Superfeather, 00:50:49.380 --> 00:50:54.780 IBO, World Superfeather, WBC, and WBO. Which 00:50:54.780 --> 00:51:01.739 is probably also the WBA. Which one of these 00:51:01.739 --> 00:51:09.440 is not a real belt? IBO. IBO. Okay. Yeah. That's 00:51:09.440 --> 00:51:14.280 the belt that Manny Pacquiao won at 140. Just 00:51:14.280 --> 00:51:21.639 in case you were wondering. Let's see. A quote 00:51:21.639 --> 00:51:23.820 from Bob Gardner while you're looking that up. 00:51:24.739 --> 00:51:27.159 I've always believed in betting on myself and 00:51:27.159 --> 00:51:29.719 signing with MVP is the next big move in that 00:51:29.719 --> 00:51:33.400 journey. MVP has proven their leaders in women's 00:51:33.400 --> 00:51:36.039 boxing, creating the biggest opportunities for 00:51:36.039 --> 00:51:39.500 fighters like me to shine. This partnership is 00:51:39.500 --> 00:51:43.539 a natural fit. Yeah, she's also got the WBA, 00:51:43.699 --> 00:51:49.960 so she's undisputed. Man. No, I think... I think 00:51:49.960 --> 00:51:53.079 MVP might be the best one for the women right 00:51:53.079 --> 00:51:56.940 now. It is. It's got to be. J -Paul is putting 00:51:56.940 --> 00:51:59.860 a lot of effort into getting the women their 00:51:59.860 --> 00:52:03.519 money. Not that the other guys are particularly. 00:52:03.739 --> 00:52:06.880 Is that what I'm hearing? Woke DEI bullshit? 00:52:07.400 --> 00:52:14.380 Yeah. Sorry to interrupt. No, it's fine. It's 00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:17.460 not that the other guys don't, but I think he 00:52:17.460 --> 00:52:19.849 puts more emphasis on it. Because he doesn't 00:52:19.849 --> 00:52:22.610 have any other fighters, I guess. Or many other 00:52:22.610 --> 00:52:26.610 fighters, I should say. Eddie puts good emphasis 00:52:26.610 --> 00:52:30.510 on women as well. Yeah. But not nearly as much 00:52:30.510 --> 00:52:33.170 as MVP. Well, he's just got so many fighters 00:52:33.170 --> 00:52:36.050 to try and promote, too, right? Well, of course. 00:52:37.329 --> 00:52:42.250 Her Majesty, Skye Nicholson. Oh, fuck. She fights 00:52:42.250 --> 00:52:44.710 this weekend, too, doesn't she? She does. On 00:52:44.710 --> 00:52:50.670 the Camboso's card. Her Majesty. Good stuff. 00:52:53.889 --> 00:52:58.530 Well, fucking go me with the segues. Speaking 00:52:58.530 --> 00:53:02.909 of Majesty, Canelo, the undercard with William 00:53:02.909 --> 00:53:08.690 Skull, is announced. We alluded to it when talking 00:53:08.690 --> 00:53:11.349 about Teofimo, and he was thinking he would have 00:53:11.349 --> 00:53:17.539 been third in the line. From the bottom up, I 00:53:17.539 --> 00:53:20.539 was looking at his name. Brian Leone versus Aaron 00:53:20.539 --> 00:53:23.260 Guerrero. I'm going to be honest. I don't know 00:53:23.260 --> 00:53:25.400 who these guys are. I was going to say I don't 00:53:25.400 --> 00:53:29.639 recognize those two. Marco Verde versus Michelle 00:53:29.639 --> 00:53:34.980 Polina. Don't know who that is either. I do know 00:53:34.980 --> 00:53:40.539 who Badu Jack is. Badu Jack versus Ryan Brozicki. 00:53:41.769 --> 00:53:44.769 I cannot believe Badu Jack is still fighting. 00:53:44.989 --> 00:53:47.590 Yeah. He has a belt too, doesn't he? He has the 00:53:47.590 --> 00:53:50.809 interim WBC cruiserweight. So that's pretty cool. 00:53:52.710 --> 00:53:57.010 Moving up, Martin Bakoli versus F .A. Ajagba. 00:53:57.429 --> 00:54:01.849 Now, this was the fight that was already scheduled. 00:54:02.230 --> 00:54:05.929 He took the Joseph Parker fight kind of like 00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:11.030 at a moment's notice. No shit. The money was 00:54:11.030 --> 00:54:13.429 right for him to drop what he was doing and fly 00:54:13.429 --> 00:54:18.030 to Saudi Arabia. So this is the fight that was 00:54:18.030 --> 00:54:22.550 going to happen anyway. Yeah, hopefully Bacoli's 00:54:22.550 --> 00:54:26.949 been training. Yeah. Well, this fight's in, what, 00:54:26.969 --> 00:54:32.889 May, so... Still. He was a fat sack of shit when 00:54:32.889 --> 00:54:40.599 he got knocked out. Man, this to me is the main 00:54:40.599 --> 00:54:44.260 event. Jaime Munguia versus Bruno Sarras, the 00:54:44.260 --> 00:54:49.239 rematch. This to me is the one I want to see. 00:54:49.659 --> 00:54:53.440 I love Munguia, but how fucking great would it 00:54:53.440 --> 00:54:57.639 be for Sarras to ice him again? I would have 00:54:57.639 --> 00:55:02.880 to send flowers to Marseille. I don't know why, 00:55:03.019 --> 00:55:05.679 but here we go. I would be sad. I would be sad. 00:55:06.660 --> 00:55:10.780 But how fucking great would that be? Like, I 00:55:10.780 --> 00:55:15.579 did it once. I'll do it again. Yeah. You want 00:55:15.579 --> 00:55:17.960 to underestimate the French? This is what happens. 00:55:19.780 --> 00:55:22.000 I don't think it's going to happen. I really 00:55:22.000 --> 00:55:24.699 hope Munguia comes and knocks him out. Hopefully. 00:55:24.780 --> 00:55:32.400 But imagine. Yeah. And Canelo versus William 00:55:32.400 --> 00:55:35.900 Skull. Oh, right. Could not care less about this. 00:55:36.119 --> 00:55:39.519 I'm calling him Dinero now. Dinero Alvarez versus 00:55:39.519 --> 00:55:43.860 William Scull. This makes sense, right? Because 00:55:43.860 --> 00:55:48.599 we know that Canelo Crawford is coming down the 00:55:48.599 --> 00:55:54.000 line. So this is reclaiming the IBF belt so that 00:55:54.000 --> 00:56:00.280 he can be undisputed again. Okay. Still doesn't 00:56:00.280 --> 00:56:04.159 make me care. I know. I know. That's the logic 00:56:04.159 --> 00:56:07.659 behind it. It's not very good, but that's the 00:56:07.659 --> 00:56:11.739 logic. Nah, collecting the belts is important, 00:56:11.980 --> 00:56:17.639 but I just, I don't know. I can't be asked to 00:56:17.639 --> 00:56:23.179 care about this fight. CBA. That's a good one. 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:29.179 What I like is something that Bally said was, 00:56:29.280 --> 00:56:34.440 this is, we're back in an era. Where having the 00:56:34.440 --> 00:56:38.400 belts matter. Yeah. Just because so many people. 00:56:38.420 --> 00:56:41.980 People care. Yeah. So many people are going undisputed. 00:56:42.900 --> 00:56:48.039 Even with Usyk dropping the IBF because, like, 00:56:48.059 --> 00:56:50.960 of course, that happens all the time. They're 00:56:50.960 --> 00:56:55.460 probably the most dropped title of all. But nonetheless. 00:56:55.460 --> 00:56:59.559 They enforce the mandatories quite strictly. 00:56:59.800 --> 00:57:08.250 Yeah. Uh, but it, it matters to have, if you 00:57:08.250 --> 00:57:13.969 have one, one of the major titles, I, I don't 00:57:13.969 --> 00:57:16.150 know how much of a major title I consider the 00:57:16.150 --> 00:57:19.809 WBO to be just because that exists in the top 00:57:19.809 --> 00:57:24.630 rank ecosystem. And that's about it. I think 00:57:24.630 --> 00:57:27.469 the only guy who's gotten away with having it 00:57:27.469 --> 00:57:31.309 outside of that is Usyk. And that's about it. 00:57:33.389 --> 00:57:36.130 yeah i don't i don't follow the belts like that 00:57:36.130 --> 00:57:39.269 i just follow the boxers i like canelo i guess 00:57:39.269 --> 00:57:42.349 as well like if you're enough of a cash cow then 00:57:42.349 --> 00:57:45.869 you don't have to give your belt they let you 00:57:45.869 --> 00:57:50.730 keep it yeah yeah but regardless we're at a time 00:57:50.730 --> 00:57:54.289 where having your belts having belts matters 00:57:54.289 --> 00:57:58.750 like beating the other champions matters even 00:57:58.750 --> 00:58:01.460 if they're not maybe not the best competition, 00:58:01.480 --> 00:58:05.179 like Usyk versus Dubois 2. Maybe not the best, 00:58:05.320 --> 00:58:11.119 but we need to reconsolidate. I think an Usyk 00:58:11.119 --> 00:58:13.900 -Dubois rematch is the best fight he can have 00:58:13.900 --> 00:58:17.519 right now, to be honest. I'm partial to Joseph 00:58:17.519 --> 00:58:20.079 Parker, just because it's a new name. That's 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:26.400 really it. I guess, but Dubois... the what beating 00:58:26.400 --> 00:58:30.280 aj in the way he beat aj yeah that's that was 00:58:30.280 --> 00:58:36.579 legit better than i am curious and the the um 00:58:36.579 --> 00:58:40.559 controversy in the first fight i think i think 00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:43.960 that rematch is the fight to make yeah all right 00:58:43.960 --> 00:58:46.539 maybe not the best example Although, bringing 00:58:46.539 --> 00:58:49.300 up Joseph Parker, did you see his call -out video? 00:58:52.400 --> 00:58:56.599 Yes, I did. I fucking love Joseph Parker. He 00:58:56.599 --> 00:59:01.719 makes the best videos. Anyone who hasn't seen 00:59:01.719 --> 00:59:06.539 it needs to go find it. Who sings that song? 00:59:06.780 --> 00:59:09.619 It's not Shania Twain. It is Shania Twain. Is 00:59:09.619 --> 00:59:12.900 it Shania Twain? Yeah. Yeah, he called them out 00:59:12.900 --> 00:59:16.159 to You're Still the One by Shania Twain, which 00:59:16.159 --> 00:59:21.079 is not a call -out song. No, but... Shot a Backstreet 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:25.340 Boys -style music video to it. It's fucking great. 00:59:25.519 --> 00:59:28.760 Love it. On the beaches of New Zealand. Well 00:59:28.760 --> 00:59:34.840 done. Got the homies. Yep. Yeah, the Kiwis seem 00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:39.780 like a... Kiwis and the Maori... Maori? I think 00:59:39.780 --> 00:59:44.380 it is. Seemed like a really fun bunch. Yeah, 00:59:44.400 --> 00:59:47.579 yeah. No, if anybody hasn't seen it needs to 00:59:47.579 --> 00:59:50.219 Google it. It's great. And it's a perfect call 00:59:50.219 --> 00:59:53.139 -out video for Usyk because yelling at him and 00:59:53.139 --> 00:59:56.340 being rude isn't going to work. No. Usyk doesn't 00:59:56.340 --> 00:59:59.679 care. Yeah. But if you make him laugh. Be funny. 01:00:00.079 --> 01:00:09.159 Get attention. Yeah. Speaking of getting attention, 01:00:09.460 --> 01:00:13.119 Shakur Stevenson trying to get attention by saying 01:00:13.119 --> 01:00:18.300 Lomachenko ducked him. I'm not sure. This would 01:00:18.300 --> 01:00:23.960 be a good time to call in RGF, the resident Shakur 01:00:23.960 --> 01:00:33.039 Stevenson expert. Yeah, there's a few guys. Shakur, 01:00:33.039 --> 01:00:41.460 Terrence Crawford. A few others. Yeah. I don't 01:00:41.460 --> 01:00:46.820 know. Did he? I don't know. Does it matter? Do 01:00:46.820 --> 01:00:50.380 we care? I don't know. Not really. I mean, Loma 01:00:50.380 --> 01:00:55.159 was old by the time Shakir started calling him 01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:57.460 out anyways. Loma was old by the time he turned 01:00:57.460 --> 01:01:02.519 pro. Let's be honest. True. Like, unless you 01:01:02.519 --> 01:01:05.679 were calling him out during no Moschenko, nobody 01:01:05.679 --> 01:01:09.989 cares, man. He waited until he wasn't scary anymore. 01:01:12.010 --> 01:01:17.710 Looking at this article, it's talking to Igis 01:01:17.710 --> 01:01:23.610 Klimas. That's Lomachenko's manager. Saying it's 01:01:23.610 --> 01:01:27.409 more worthwhile to fight Gervonta Davis over 01:01:27.409 --> 01:01:31.909 Shakur Stevenson. Wow. That would be more exciting. 01:01:32.809 --> 01:01:38.639 It's the bigger money fight. No kidding. Nobody 01:01:38.639 --> 01:01:42.500 likes watching Shakur Stevenson. I doubt even 01:01:42.500 --> 01:01:47.420 he likes watching Shakur Stevenson. Actually, 01:01:47.659 --> 01:01:51.139 I was in this discussion last night. Somebody 01:01:51.139 --> 01:01:56.539 brought up Rigo again. Rigo versus Casamaro. 01:01:56.820 --> 01:02:00.320 And they said they legitimately enjoyed watching 01:02:00.320 --> 01:02:02.679 that fight live. And I was like, fucking how? 01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:09.519 How could you enjoy that? And they were like, 01:02:09.579 --> 01:02:12.780 well, Ringo just leans into it so much it's funny. 01:02:13.420 --> 01:02:15.980 And I said this on the podcast before, too. What 01:02:15.980 --> 01:02:20.320 pisses me off about Shakur so much is that he's 01:02:20.320 --> 01:02:23.380 not aware of himself at all. And he keeps saying 01:02:23.380 --> 01:02:25.119 he's going to knock people out and he's going 01:02:25.119 --> 01:02:26.820 to beat the fuck out of them and all this stuff. 01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:30.579 No, you're not. You're never going to do that. 01:02:32.380 --> 01:02:36.670 Just be honest about it. Like, I'm going to embarrass 01:02:36.670 --> 01:02:39.269 you. I'm going to school you. I'm going to teach 01:02:39.269 --> 01:02:42.389 you what real boxing is. I'm going to give you 01:02:42.389 --> 01:02:46.829 a 12 -round lesson. So, yeah, strap in, youngster, 01:02:46.889 --> 01:02:49.969 because you're going to school. Yeah, like, you're 01:02:49.969 --> 01:02:52.269 never going to touch me. Yeah, you're never going 01:02:52.269 --> 01:02:54.610 to touch me. I just cut a better promo than Shakur 01:02:54.610 --> 01:02:57.530 ever has. There you go. And ever will. Yeah. 01:02:57.530 --> 01:03:00.789 Because he's so fucking insecure about how boring 01:03:00.789 --> 01:03:04.409 he is. But Rigo, Rigo's like, I don't give a 01:03:04.409 --> 01:03:06.550 fuck. I get paid the same no matter how much 01:03:06.550 --> 01:03:10.710 people like it. I don't get paid more if I get 01:03:10.710 --> 01:03:18.329 punched in the face. Looking at this, going down 01:03:18.329 --> 01:03:23.989 further into the Klimas quotes, everybody thinks 01:03:23.989 --> 01:03:26.909 Loma is done and out of it. Everybody wants to 01:03:26.909 --> 01:03:29.769 fight Loma. I think it's good because if Loma 01:03:29.769 --> 01:03:32.860 comes back, that would be a very good fight to 01:03:32.860 --> 01:03:37.639 make with Tank. What is Shakur? What is a Shakur 01:03:37.639 --> 01:03:43.940 and what is a Tank? Skill and finance. He, Tank, 01:03:44.139 --> 01:03:49.739 is a much better fighter in my way and an up 01:03:49.739 --> 01:03:52.099 -and -coming fighter. I'm not sure what that 01:03:52.099 --> 01:03:56.800 means. In my way. That part I don't get. I think 01:03:56.800 --> 01:03:59.500 that's just him having trouble with English. 01:03:59.659 --> 01:04:03.280 I think he means, like, in my eyes. Yeah. Oh, 01:04:03.380 --> 01:04:06.420 yeah, I see what you mean. Okay. Yeah, he's a 01:04:06.420 --> 01:04:09.940 much better fighter in my view, my eyes. Yeah, 01:04:10.039 --> 01:04:14.079 okay. I'm not going to take anything away from 01:04:14.079 --> 01:04:16.119 Shakur. He's a good fighter, but he's a bumper. 01:04:16.840 --> 01:04:20.199 He goes into a shell and runs away. Tank comes 01:04:20.199 --> 01:04:23.079 to fight. It's a more interesting fight. It's 01:04:23.079 --> 01:04:28.449 a more intriguing fight. yeah yeah uh i agree 01:04:28.449 --> 01:04:34.309 hard to argue no notes i think loma's too old 01:04:34.309 --> 01:04:37.610 anyways i think loma's done if he comes back 01:04:37.610 --> 01:04:42.750 it'll be for tank and that however it ends that'll 01:04:42.750 --> 01:04:45.010 be the end of it because it's a huge money fight 01:04:45.010 --> 01:04:51.030 yeah fair and that's it i just i i think the 01:04:51.030 --> 01:04:54.300 chances of us seeing loma in a in the ring again 01:04:54.300 --> 01:04:57.900 in like an actual fight is pretty low i'd put 01:04:57.900 --> 01:05:06.380 it at like 15 he he's done yeah he's got his 01:05:06.380 --> 01:05:10.420 money he's happy he's got his legacy why come 01:05:10.420 --> 01:05:15.960 back and chance ruining it at this stage though 01:05:15.960 --> 01:05:24.449 uh going off the the boxing laundry theory isn't 01:05:24.449 --> 01:05:28.150 he at a point where all he is is name value and 01:05:28.150 --> 01:05:31.150 that's really it like we know he's beyond like 01:05:31.150 --> 01:05:34.210 he's past it and it's just really having his 01:05:34.210 --> 01:05:37.090 name on your resume and that's really it he's 01:05:37.090 --> 01:05:40.190 like selling his name right now yeah but why 01:05:40.190 --> 01:05:44.110 why do that uh i don't know money that's it that's 01:05:44.110 --> 01:05:47.090 all i could think of is money no one's got enough 01:05:47.090 --> 01:05:49.769 money he doesn't need it but tank money is a 01:05:49.769 --> 01:05:55.230 lot yeah i guess that's my that's my what the 01:05:55.230 --> 01:06:00.949 rationale would be i'm just lazy i have no no 01:06:00.949 --> 01:06:05.630 ambition drive to be like super rich uh yeah 01:06:05.630 --> 01:06:08.050 if i didn't have to work anymore i just wouldn't 01:06:08.050 --> 01:06:12.809 yeah um but that's why i'm not a world famous 01:06:12.809 --> 01:06:17.829 boxer so But if I also if I had like enough money 01:06:17.829 --> 01:06:19.769 to the point where I don't have to work, there 01:06:19.769 --> 01:06:22.010 would be a good portion of that that I would 01:06:22.010 --> 01:06:25.349 be spending on like philanthropies like, oh, 01:06:25.389 --> 01:06:28.130 what's that? Hungry children. Here's like more 01:06:28.130 --> 01:06:30.869 food than you can eat in a fucking month. Enjoy 01:06:30.869 --> 01:06:34.829 that. Yeah. Hungry puppies and kittens. Here's 01:06:34.829 --> 01:06:37.889 more food than you can eat in one sitting. but 01:06:37.889 --> 01:06:40.409 yeah i think i think you're a better person than 01:06:40.409 --> 01:06:42.969 me i would be blowing my money on like bullshit 01:06:42.969 --> 01:06:47.949 constantly oh not crazy bullshit but like i want 01:06:47.949 --> 01:06:50.730 to learn how to be a blacksmith this year and 01:06:50.730 --> 01:06:52.989 just hire somebody to come teach me blacksmithing 01:06:52.989 --> 01:06:59.469 i would do shit like that too but uh i don't 01:06:59.469 --> 01:07:02.269 know maybe yeah maybe it's just different mentalities 01:07:02.269 --> 01:07:06.340 but My money can philanther after I'm dead with 01:07:06.340 --> 01:07:14.739 whatever's left over. Oh, that's all we got. 01:07:15.179 --> 01:07:18.960 Oh, there was one small news thing that I forgot 01:07:18.960 --> 01:07:23.000 about until now. Did you see that Triple G got 01:07:23.000 --> 01:07:26.679 boxing back in the Olympics? I saw that he was 01:07:26.679 --> 01:07:31.000 campaigning for it, and I did see that it... 01:07:31.239 --> 01:07:35.400 it is going to stay in the Olympics. Yeah. Which 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:39.280 is good. Yeah, very cool. We've had a lot of 01:07:39.280 --> 01:07:44.480 great Olympians coming out. What, MJ? Solid. 01:07:45.380 --> 01:07:51.460 I think Madrimov as well. Yeah, I think a lot 01:07:51.460 --> 01:07:53.840 of those guys from the smaller countries wouldn't 01:07:53.840 --> 01:07:56.139 get a shot without the Olympics. If they didn't 01:07:56.139 --> 01:08:00.969 have the medals, yeah, for sure. For sure. And 01:08:00.969 --> 01:08:04.969 I actually don't even watch Olympic boxing. I 01:08:04.969 --> 01:08:08.090 know Isaac does. But I'm glad it exists. Yeah, 01:08:08.170 --> 01:08:13.170 it's good to have... It's a good gauge of... 01:08:13.170 --> 01:08:18.590 It helps you set expectations. For some people, 01:08:18.609 --> 01:08:22.659 you can set them higher. like Andy Cruz, gold 01:08:22.659 --> 01:08:24.720 medalist. So you can set your expectations a 01:08:24.720 --> 01:08:26.920 little bit higher and expect a little bit more 01:08:26.920 --> 01:08:29.840 out of him. And you're not like, why is he in 01:08:29.840 --> 01:08:32.960 a 10 round fight with this like 17, three and 01:08:32.960 --> 01:08:38.199 one guy? Yeah. Yeah. Well, and I think it gives 01:08:38.199 --> 01:08:43.539 young boxers that like more attainable goal. 01:08:43.800 --> 01:08:47.590 Yeah. Like a solid. I want to be on the Olympic 01:08:47.590 --> 01:08:50.329 team. I want an Olympic gold medal. It's something 01:08:50.329 --> 01:08:54.470 to really work towards before you become a professional 01:08:54.470 --> 01:08:57.670 and need to work towards like the belts. Like 01:08:57.670 --> 01:09:01.149 it's a stepping stone in your career. Stepping 01:09:01.149 --> 01:09:03.789 stones are a milestone. Yeah. The stone I was 01:09:03.789 --> 01:09:08.050 looking for. Man. I think having them is a good, 01:09:08.050 --> 01:09:11.260 a good thing. Although sometimes people stay 01:09:11.260 --> 01:09:14.140 too long trying to get a medal. Stay in the amateurs 01:09:14.140 --> 01:09:16.579 too long. Or even if they have a gold medal, 01:09:16.699 --> 01:09:19.539 they continue fighting in the amateur system. 01:09:19.819 --> 01:09:23.359 Like Rigondow. Like Lomachenko. Yeah, you're 01:09:23.359 --> 01:09:26.460 like 25 years old beating up teenagers. Congratulations. 01:09:26.739 --> 01:09:35.159 You're so talented. But still. I think that's 01:09:35.159 --> 01:09:36.779 good for the sport. Absolutely. Being in the 01:09:36.779 --> 01:09:39.380 Olympics. Because we don't have like a collegiate 01:09:39.380 --> 01:09:44.359 system the same way like NFL or NBA. Or wrestling. 01:09:44.619 --> 01:09:52.100 Yeah, even wrestling has it. So that's it. Holy 01:09:52.100 --> 01:09:57.359 shit. I'm just going to put the plugs, plug shit 01:09:57.359 --> 01:10:00.159 at the end. Be better if you don't fast forward 01:10:00.159 --> 01:10:06.890 through it. Maybe just give it a listen. Parting 01:10:06.890 --> 01:10:10.170 words. What do you got? What do I got? Oh, fuck. 01:10:11.750 --> 01:10:15.069 I actually did my homework this time and I left 01:10:15.069 --> 01:10:17.869 the book at work. I was doing podcast stuff at 01:10:17.869 --> 01:10:26.949 work because I didn't want to do work. No, I 01:10:26.949 --> 01:10:29.210 lost it. I have no idea what I was going to say. 01:10:30.390 --> 01:10:34.789 I'm going to be out of town starting on... We're 01:10:34.789 --> 01:10:37.949 recording this on Friday. It's currently about 01:10:37.949 --> 01:10:42.729 6 .15 in the evening. And I'm going to be leaving 01:10:42.729 --> 01:10:45.350 on Sunday. I'm going to be out through most of 01:10:45.350 --> 01:10:49.630 the week. So Ultimate FN Casual is going to be 01:10:49.630 --> 01:10:55.109 delayed. Hopefully Alex is feeling better. Maybe 01:10:55.109 --> 01:10:58.149 we could get some boxing in the way into the 01:10:58.149 --> 01:11:03.329 feed. Either way, I'm going to be out, but we'll 01:11:03.329 --> 01:11:07.119 be back. I'll be back, and I'm coming at your 01:11:07.119 --> 01:11:11.680 fucking eardrums. I'm coming for them. Are you 01:11:11.680 --> 01:11:15.720 at least doing something fun? I'm going to... 01:11:15.720 --> 01:11:19.220 I don't know how fun this is. It's fun for me. 01:11:19.779 --> 01:11:23.779 I'm going to D .C., and I'm going to be lobbying 01:11:23.779 --> 01:11:28.739 for military veterans who have been deported 01:11:28.739 --> 01:11:30.680 from the U .S. because they weren't citizens. 01:11:32.109 --> 01:11:35.369 That sounds important, but maybe not fun. Not 01:11:35.369 --> 01:11:39.689 quite as, uh, not fun for anyone hearing me like 01:11:39.689 --> 01:11:43.770 describe it, but it's important stuff. Yeah. 01:11:44.029 --> 01:11:48.090 Yeah. Very important. Like how the fuck, how, 01:11:48.189 --> 01:11:51.029 how are you going to be like, uh, one guy he's 01:11:51.029 --> 01:11:54.029 currently in detention. He, he went to Iraq like 01:11:54.029 --> 01:11:58.930 two or three times and. Now he's being processed 01:11:58.930 --> 01:12:02.189 for deportation. What the fuck is happening? 01:12:02.949 --> 01:12:08.470 That doesn't make sense. Yeah, I do not get America's 01:12:08.470 --> 01:12:11.550 treatment of their veterans. I've seen a couple 01:12:11.550 --> 01:12:15.829 Instagram reels and stuff where Doge has made 01:12:15.829 --> 01:12:19.590 so many cuts and it's just veterans crashing 01:12:19.590 --> 01:12:23.649 out because they can't get their therapy and 01:12:23.649 --> 01:12:26.409 stuff. Yeah. And they don't know how to get their... 01:12:26.800 --> 01:12:30.380 their medications renewed and all this sort of 01:12:30.380 --> 01:12:33.300 stuff. It makes me really sad. That's me. I don't 01:12:33.300 --> 01:12:35.960 know how I'm going to get my medication. Yeah, 01:12:36.000 --> 01:12:39.779 that's fucking ridiculous. Especially for a country 01:12:39.779 --> 01:12:42.899 that pretends that they care so much about their 01:12:42.899 --> 01:12:45.920 military. Yeah. Well, without my medications, 01:12:45.979 --> 01:12:48.159 who knows? Maybe I'll spontaneously combust. 01:12:49.279 --> 01:12:50.699 I expect that's going to be the result. I hope 01:12:50.699 --> 01:12:55.560 not. I would be sad. Oh. Instead of parting words, 01:12:55.680 --> 01:12:59.880 I have one more idiocy from the Canadian boycott. 01:13:00.020 --> 01:13:02.739 This isn't so much a boycott. More vandalism. 01:13:03.279 --> 01:13:06.859 No, no. This is actually my home province being 01:13:06.859 --> 01:13:10.560 stupid as fuck. So my home province went conservative. 01:13:10.640 --> 01:13:15.859 It has for a while now. And they have decided 01:13:15.859 --> 01:13:20.199 that they're not going to allow... the liquor 01:13:20.199 --> 01:13:23.560 stores in my home province of Saskatchewan to 01:13:23.560 --> 01:13:27.720 sell Coors Light and Budweiser products. But 01:13:27.720 --> 01:13:32.600 Coors Light is I think a Molson product now? 01:13:32.779 --> 01:13:35.779 It's made in Canada. There's Canadian breweries. 01:13:35.920 --> 01:13:40.220 And Budweiser also has Canadian breweries. So 01:13:40.220 --> 01:13:42.739 they're fucking over people who work in those 01:13:42.739 --> 01:13:46.279 breweries. Like, what the fuck are you doing? 01:13:46.319 --> 01:13:50.340 I know we don't like American products and American 01:13:50.340 --> 01:13:54.000 companies right now, but, like, that shit's just 01:13:54.000 --> 01:13:57.939 made in Canada. I'm pretty sure Coors Light has 01:13:57.939 --> 01:14:01.199 a brewery in Saskatchewan. I think Coors is Molson. 01:14:01.300 --> 01:14:06.020 That does sound accurate. Yeah, and, like, they're 01:14:06.020 --> 01:14:08.859 not pulling Molson because Molson makes Canadian 01:14:08.859 --> 01:14:14.359 the beer. Like, this is the worst. what's the 01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.640 catchphrase thing virtue signaling i've ever 01:14:17.640 --> 01:14:21.579 fucking seen this is like god damn scotty moe 01:14:21.579 --> 01:14:24.399 get your head out of your ass it's so fucking 01:14:24.399 --> 01:14:28.039 stupid this one is stupid the turning shit over 01:14:28.039 --> 01:14:31.680 is just kind of funny but this is stupid and 01:14:31.680 --> 01:14:35.060 it's stupid people that are gonna fall for it 01:14:35.060 --> 01:14:37.359 but i really think it's gonna backfire on him 01:14:37.359 --> 01:14:40.779 because like my dad and his buddies they drink 01:14:40.779 --> 01:14:45.739 budweiser and I know a ton of people that drink 01:14:45.739 --> 01:14:49.260 Budweiser and Coors Light, and you don't take 01:14:49.260 --> 01:14:53.699 people's beer away. Like, the farmers have not 01:14:53.699 --> 01:14:57.359 gotten on board with this craft beer stuff. I 01:14:57.359 --> 01:15:01.319 drink 8 ,000 of the same thing every year. Yeah, 01:15:01.359 --> 01:15:06.439 those are exactly the types. What you would imagine 01:15:06.439 --> 01:15:10.800 a... more traditional traditionally conservative 01:15:10.800 --> 01:15:14.659 like i like my beer i like this this is the one 01:15:14.659 --> 01:15:17.380 i like this is the one i drink anything else 01:15:17.380 --> 01:15:23.189 i don't like it yeah exactly yeah So I see this 01:15:23.189 --> 01:15:26.510 one backfiring. I am waiting for him to reverse 01:15:26.510 --> 01:15:29.289 it very quickly, and I'm waiting for a bunch 01:15:29.289 --> 01:15:31.869 of farmers to get mad and dump pig shit on his 01:15:31.869 --> 01:15:34.170 lawn, because that's one of our favorite protest 01:15:34.170 --> 01:15:37.329 things. Wow, pig shit. Just bring a trailer of 01:15:37.329 --> 01:15:39.729 pig shit and dump it on your lawn. Let's just 01:15:39.729 --> 01:15:42.069 hope that one of those pig farmers isn't Robert 01:15:42.069 --> 01:15:47.050 Pickton. I actually went to school with his cousin's 01:15:47.050 --> 01:15:55.119 kid. Oh, shit. Yeah. Pickton. Yeah, they were 01:15:55.119 --> 01:15:58.000 not close. He was a weirdo. The family didn't 01:15:58.000 --> 01:16:01.000 talk to him. Yeah, that's what I learned about 01:16:01.000 --> 01:16:05.260 him through my true crime studies. He is not 01:16:05.260 --> 01:16:07.479 one of those ones where people said, like, oh, 01:16:07.520 --> 01:16:11.000 we never saw it coming. No, it was like, of course 01:16:11.000 --> 01:16:14.399 he did. Of course he did. You guys hadn't investigated 01:16:14.399 --> 01:16:18.340 him 10 years ago? Yeah, actually, that comes 01:16:18.340 --> 01:16:21.359 up in the series that I had listened to about 01:16:21.359 --> 01:16:24.920 him. Yeah. But that's enough. If you don't know 01:16:24.920 --> 01:16:27.920 who Robert Pickton is, you can call the number 01:16:27.920 --> 01:16:31.640 833 -589 -7637. You can text and I'll tell you 01:16:31.640 --> 01:16:34.800 exactly who Robert Pickton is. You're not going 01:16:34.800 --> 01:16:37.039 to like it. It's going to be very distressing 01:16:37.039 --> 01:16:39.239 and it's going to be uncomfortable to read. But 01:16:39.239 --> 01:16:42.760 I'll tell you exactly who he is. Otherwise, if 01:16:42.760 --> 01:16:46.000 you got anything to say about the Inouye debut 01:16:46.000 --> 01:16:49.260 or re -debut in the U .S., Adrian Broner and 01:16:49.260 --> 01:16:54.239 his dice, AJ getting injured. The TKO pay structure, 01:16:54.520 --> 01:16:57.359 if that's not distressing, I don't know what 01:16:57.359 --> 01:17:05.199 would be. Yeah, well, go figure out how it's 01:17:05.199 --> 01:17:09.899 illegal right now because I don't really understand. 01:17:10.000 --> 01:17:13.500 You go figure it out and explain it to me in 01:17:13.500 --> 01:17:17.199 a call. Yeah. Well, there you have it. We'll 01:17:17.199 --> 01:17:21.329 catch you next time. We're going boxing before 01:17:21.329 --> 01:17:24.229 dark because it's still light out for me and 01:17:24.229 --> 01:17:27.949 it's light out for you. 10 a .m., baby. All right. 01:17:27.989 --> 01:17:33.729 We'll see you next time. Bye. We interrupt our 01:17:33.729 --> 01:17:36.069 program to bring you this important message. 01:17:36.829 --> 01:17:45.930 Hi, man. Fucking what an interim. What a solemn 01:17:45.930 --> 01:17:51.300 update. God damn. This one kind of surprised 01:17:51.300 --> 01:17:54.380 me. Like, I hadn't heard he was sick or anything. 01:17:54.579 --> 01:18:00.180 Same. Pretty healthy. So, for the uninitiated, 01:18:00.300 --> 01:18:03.899 which, if you're listening to this, chances are 01:18:03.899 --> 01:18:05.880 you probably already know. But, nonetheless, 01:18:06.239 --> 01:18:11.039 just today, just a few, like, I found out a few 01:18:11.039 --> 01:18:14.939 moments ago that George Foreman, the George Foreman, 01:18:15.020 --> 01:18:19.050 passed away at his home in Houston. Houston, 01:18:19.109 --> 01:18:25.390 Texas. Oh, man. Olympic gold medalist. Holy shit. 01:18:25.489 --> 01:18:28.029 I didn't know that part. I knew he was an Olympian, 01:18:28.029 --> 01:18:30.590 but I didn't know he won the gold. Of course 01:18:30.590 --> 01:18:35.949 he did. Of course he did. Yeah. Man, this one 01:18:35.949 --> 01:18:41.210 kind of hurts me. It does. I'm feeling it. I'm 01:18:41.210 --> 01:18:46.170 getting all misty up here. Like, man. Thank George. 01:18:48.779 --> 01:18:52.640 Man, such a good life story. What a redemption 01:18:52.640 --> 01:18:57.779 arc in the second half. Like, going from being 01:18:57.779 --> 01:19:05.739 the bad guy, the, like, not gangster, but just, 01:19:05.760 --> 01:19:11.079 like, mean, angry person that beat people up 01:19:11.079 --> 01:19:15.560 and enjoyed it to... Born again. I got to go 01:19:15.560 --> 01:19:18.060 back to fighting so I can pay for all these kids 01:19:18.060 --> 01:19:24.159 to have a recreation second chance. Big George, 01:19:24.380 --> 01:19:33.020 man. That makes me sad. Maybe next week we need 01:19:33.020 --> 01:19:36.220 to come back and do a bit of a memorial one. 01:19:36.600 --> 01:19:41.560 Absolutely. Yeah, this is just a little addendum 01:19:41.560 --> 01:19:46.470 to Mention that we're aware that this happened. 01:19:48.590 --> 01:19:52.210 Man, I'm at a loss for words. I remember playing 01:19:52.210 --> 01:19:56.430 his game on Sega Genesis when I was a kid. I 01:19:56.430 --> 01:20:00.489 used to play the George Foreman game when I was 01:20:00.489 --> 01:20:04.550 stationed, my first duty station. It was in Japan. 01:20:05.390 --> 01:20:07.710 And one of the guys had been there for a while. 01:20:07.770 --> 01:20:12.380 He had a George Foreman grill. To me, I had seen... 01:20:12.380 --> 01:20:17.420 Go on. I got so many George Foreman grills as 01:20:17.420 --> 01:20:20.779 graduation presents. I think I got three or four 01:20:20.779 --> 01:20:24.100 of them. That's what everybody gave everybody 01:20:24.100 --> 01:20:28.779 when I was graduating high school. Yeah, that 01:20:28.779 --> 01:20:33.220 was the thing to have in the barracks that we 01:20:33.220 --> 01:20:37.319 were at just because a lot of cooking devices 01:20:37.319 --> 01:20:40.689 weren't allowed. but George Foreman girls were. 01:20:41.970 --> 01:20:48.069 And, yeah, man, I'm broken up here. Like, George 01:20:48.069 --> 01:20:54.130 Foreman was, he was, him, he was like the, even 01:20:54.130 --> 01:20:56.550 though he was older, nonetheless, it was him 01:20:56.550 --> 01:21:00.449 and Mike Tyson. That, to me, was heavyweight 01:21:00.449 --> 01:21:05.010 boxing. Yeah. Well, and George Foreman was just 01:21:05.010 --> 01:21:09.279 so good in interviews and such a funny guy. yeah 01:21:09.279 --> 01:21:13.380 like when he was making his comeback there's 01:21:13.380 --> 01:21:15.380 an interview and i've watched this particular 01:21:15.380 --> 01:21:17.560 interview quite a few times because it's hilarious 01:21:17.560 --> 01:21:21.939 and i forget which late night show it was but 01:21:21.939 --> 01:21:24.739 they asked him who hit the hardest and i think 01:21:24.739 --> 01:21:28.520 he says joe frazier and the guy's like not ernie 01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:32.300 shavers because that's who everybody says and 01:21:32.300 --> 01:21:34.819 big george was like Oh, I never fought Ernie 01:21:34.819 --> 01:21:41.079 Shavers, and I thank the Lord I didn't. Yeah, 01:21:41.340 --> 01:21:46.619 I wouldn't want to either. Man, Big George is 01:21:46.619 --> 01:21:49.939 gone. That makes me so sad. It is. And him on 01:21:49.939 --> 01:21:53.819 HBO as the color commentator. Yeah. So good. 01:21:54.500 --> 01:21:57.840 What was the guy that was on with Lampley and 01:21:57.840 --> 01:22:02.289 him? Oh. I know who you're talking about, and 01:22:02.289 --> 01:22:03.689 I can't think of the other guy's name either. 01:22:03.689 --> 01:22:04.789 The guy that sets up Floyd Mayweather, he said, 01:22:04.829 --> 01:22:07.069 if I was 50 years younger, I'd kick your ass. 01:22:07.890 --> 01:22:10.909 I'm going to look this up. Yeah, I'm trying. 01:22:11.590 --> 01:22:16.329 I don't even know what the, I guess just HBO 01:22:16.329 --> 01:22:20.649 Boxing. Yeah. Was it? It wasn't Letterman. No, 01:22:20.750 --> 01:22:24.170 it wasn't Letterman. No, he did the scorecards. 01:22:24.369 --> 01:22:29.130 Yeah. Larry Merchant. There you go. Yeah. Yeah. 01:22:30.470 --> 01:22:33.609 He's just another central figure of the glory 01:22:33.609 --> 01:22:38.390 days. Seeing the old legends. Big George was 01:22:38.390 --> 01:22:41.170 the last one kind of from that era, wasn't he? 01:22:42.029 --> 01:22:45.729 I think so. Like, Emanuel Stewart passed on. 01:22:46.350 --> 01:22:49.869 I think him, Jim Lampley is all that's really 01:22:49.869 --> 01:22:53.430 left. Well, I was thinking, like, boxers. Oh, 01:22:53.470 --> 01:22:57.310 right. Yeah. I think you're right. Heavyweight 01:22:57.310 --> 01:23:01.470 boxing from, what was that, the 70s? 70s, yes. 01:23:01.569 --> 01:23:07.510 80s? I think George was the last one. Man, yeah. 01:23:07.609 --> 01:23:11.289 Well, we definitely have to give him his due 01:23:11.289 --> 01:23:16.010 time. Yeah, I'm going to go do some actual research, 01:23:16.109 --> 01:23:19.489 get some actual quotes instead of me trying to 01:23:19.489 --> 01:23:23.760 remember them. Yeah. yeah just an addendum a 01:23:23.760 --> 01:23:27.399 quick addendum to add on to the end but fucking 01:23:27.399 --> 01:23:32.319 hope is hope uh i don't know best wishes to his 01:23:32.319 --> 01:23:35.819 family i hope they're all doing i mean as good 01:23:35.819 --> 01:23:40.680 as they can be all things considered yeah man 01:23:40.680 --> 01:23:45.300 this probably for his family it didn't but for 01:23:45.300 --> 01:23:49.500 me this came out of nowhere that was same I was 01:23:49.500 --> 01:23:52.840 surprised Alex brought it up in the middle of 01:23:52.840 --> 01:23:55.579 just... I was talking to Isaac about something 01:23:55.579 --> 01:23:59.720 just completely unrelated, and Alex came in and 01:23:59.720 --> 01:24:02.840 mentioned it. I was like, God damn, are you messing 01:24:02.840 --> 01:24:06.720 with me? Don't mess with me with this. This isn't 01:24:06.720 --> 01:24:12.840 funny. Yeah. Fuck. Anyway. Yeah. I guess there's 01:24:12.840 --> 01:24:15.199 not much else to say other than... Not for the 01:24:15.199 --> 01:24:18.560 moment. Rest in peace. Yeah. Best wishes to the 01:24:18.560 --> 01:24:23.319 Foreman family. Yeah, we'll give Big George his 01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:36.180 time next time we get together. Yeah. Welcome 01:24:36.180 --> 01:24:38.779 to the fucking show. All right, just a quick 01:24:38.779 --> 01:24:40.899 blurb just so you can get back to what you were 01:24:40.899 --> 01:24:48.380 doing. Why would a boxing... Let's assume they're 01:24:48.380 --> 01:24:51.500 like a purist or some shit. Why would they want 01:24:51.500 --> 01:24:54.600 to watch MMA? Why would they want to listen to 01:24:54.600 --> 01:24:57.619 an MMA show? I'm going to come at this from sort 01:24:57.619 --> 01:25:01.279 of like a primal level. So I will admit there 01:25:01.279 --> 01:25:05.159 are like some very like unique and like stark 01:25:05.159 --> 01:25:08.500 differences between MMA and boxing. And it seems 01:25:08.500 --> 01:25:11.600 like one of the main things that keeps boxing 01:25:11.600 --> 01:25:15.659 fans away from MMA is the grappling aspect. and 01:25:15.659 --> 01:25:18.739 yes sometimes it can be you know a lay and pray 01:25:18.739 --> 01:25:24.220 uh type of fight and it can get old but man like 01:25:24.220 --> 01:25:27.159 it's just instinctual man some of these people 01:25:27.159 --> 01:25:31.060 the way they find an mma is just brutal and i 01:25:31.060 --> 01:25:32.359 feel like that's what it comes down to when it 01:25:32.359 --> 01:25:34.939 comes to being a combat fan a combat sports fan 01:25:34.939 --> 01:25:40.640 um i mean we started just recently uh mauricio 01:25:40.640 --> 01:25:45.300 uh rufy versus Bobby Green spinning back or spinning 01:25:45.300 --> 01:25:50.659 a wheel kick. Man, it's I mean, they went viral 01:25:50.659 --> 01:25:52.659 and it's something that everyone can appreciate, 01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:56.039 even boxing fans. I know if you have a few friends 01:25:56.039 --> 01:25:59.840 that are boxing fans who I sent him that clip. 01:26:00.119 --> 01:26:03.560 I mean, and they they were amazed and that, you 01:26:03.560 --> 01:26:05.100 know, they won't even tell me that they wish 01:26:05.100 --> 01:26:08.180 they would have seen it live because seeing seeing 01:26:08.180 --> 01:26:11.899 that that type of stuff live just elicits like. 01:26:12.510 --> 01:26:15.029 a euphoric feeling that you know you can't get 01:26:15.029 --> 01:26:16.750 i mean it happens in boxing too whenever you 01:26:16.750 --> 01:26:19.569 see like an amazing fight but i i just gotta 01:26:19.569 --> 01:26:24.210 say like in mma you you get those type of fights 01:26:24.210 --> 01:26:27.750 as well just in a different type it's different 01:26:27.750 --> 01:26:30.569 but sort of the same it's it's sort of it's sort 01:26:30.569 --> 01:26:32.569 of weird how i describe it but it's different 01:26:32.569 --> 01:26:34.930 but the same it comes down to that same like 01:26:34.930 --> 01:26:38.010 carnal or primal instinct of just like fights 01:26:38.010 --> 01:26:43.399 yeah i i always think like the biggest the easiest 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:46.439 transition that i always recommend i say this 01:26:46.439 --> 01:26:51.000 all the time on ultimate casuals is if you're 01:26:51.000 --> 01:26:54.859 if you're not too keen on the grappling muay 01:26:54.859 --> 01:26:58.239 thai and kickboxing are exactly where you want 01:26:58.239 --> 01:27:00.779 to start like you start working on the kicks 01:27:00.779 --> 01:27:04.440 the elbows the knees that's all that stuff And 01:27:04.440 --> 01:27:07.739 you can come to learn to appreciate grappling. 01:27:08.079 --> 01:27:11.760 I never thought I would. And here I am. Yeah. 01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:14.880 Like I said, some of it is very boring. Some 01:27:14.880 --> 01:27:16.739 of the grappling. It depends on the fighters. 01:27:16.800 --> 01:27:19.180 But sometimes, man. There's boring boxing fights 01:27:19.180 --> 01:27:22.159 all the time. Yeah. Yeah, no. Yeah, you're true. 01:27:22.279 --> 01:27:24.260 I mean, you're right. But man, some of these 01:27:24.260 --> 01:27:27.039 grapplers, man. These scrambles that they do. 01:27:27.819 --> 01:27:31.300 It is like pretty crazy just to see it. Like, 01:27:31.300 --> 01:27:32.699 you know, rolling around the floor. I mean, you 01:27:32.699 --> 01:27:34.819 can see. The stuff that they're doing in between. 01:27:34.840 --> 01:27:36.420 And the scrambles. I mean it's sort of crazy. 01:27:36.560 --> 01:27:39.340 Flipping someone over. The trips. I mean it's. 01:27:39.880 --> 01:27:41.819 It can be fun. But yeah you're right. The easiest 01:27:41.819 --> 01:27:43.880 transition is definitely. Start out with Muay 01:27:43.880 --> 01:27:46.880 Thai. Kickboxing. And you know slowly. Work your 01:27:46.880 --> 01:27:49.760 way into MMA. And you know. This is the thing 01:27:49.760 --> 01:27:53.380 about. The ultimate fucking casuals. We will 01:27:53.380 --> 01:27:55.199 let you know which fights are going to be good. 01:27:56.300 --> 01:27:58.680 Which ones you know. If you're not too in tune 01:27:58.680 --> 01:28:02.340 with the grappling. We can get maybe. A little 01:28:02.340 --> 01:28:06.380 tag or a little asterisk on certain fights saying, 01:28:06.420 --> 01:28:09.100 like, this is a boxing purist type of fight. 01:28:09.220 --> 01:28:12.479 Yeah. You can watch this and enjoy this. Like, 01:28:12.539 --> 01:28:15.939 we'll let you know. Yeah, we always try. Like, 01:28:16.060 --> 01:28:18.479 I came into this. The whole show was started 01:28:18.479 --> 01:28:21.600 with me. I didn't know shit about MMA. I'd never 01:28:21.600 --> 01:28:24.819 really seen an MMA fight in its entirety in my 01:28:24.819 --> 01:28:27.560 entire life. And I came into this with nothing. 01:28:27.979 --> 01:28:30.380 And yeah, that's where we're at now is like we're 01:28:30.380 --> 01:28:33.960 talking like I make sure I go out of my way to 01:28:33.960 --> 01:28:36.979 bring up Muay Thai and bring up kickboxing so 01:28:36.979 --> 01:28:40.479 that people know like this for boxing fans to 01:28:40.479 --> 01:28:43.420 know. This is what this is where you can start. 01:28:44.640 --> 01:28:48.000 All right. Well, yeah, that was about it. I really 01:28:48.000 --> 01:28:51.159 appreciate your time. Thanks, Isaac, for jumping 01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:53.800 on real quick. Thanks for having me on. All right.