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Boxing Podcast. I made a fucking major error
of judgment. I went to Costco on Sunday. That
was a fucking mistake. Yeah, that is a bad mistake,
yeah. That's a bad idea. You know what? At least
it's a choice, though. You can just leave. I
was thinking about it. I was trying to find a
parking spot, and I couldn't. So I was like,
you know, last row, if I don't find one here,
I'm fucking out of here. And just so happens
somebody pulled out right in front of me. So,
all right. I guess we're going. That's sick.
Sweet. I think I'm ready. Pop a fucking edible.
If I pop an edible, I don't think I'll be able
to do this podcast. Oh, I have. I think I'd get
less. No, I'd lose. I have such bad tolerance.
Like, I'd be less coherent. I'm going to have
to put you on game with these, though, because
these are super, super light. And I take a quarter
of one, not a whole one. So I'm already. It's
all it does is like, OK, fair enough. I can feel
my lungs breathing better. And I become more
aware of my posture. So that's nice. I get like
that with gum. I sound like really weird, but
like I just get like that with gum. The cooler
air. Yeah. Cooler air. Yeah. I got you. All right.
Fucking timer is running. Cookies crumble. Farmers
fumble. Rapaport Rumble. I don't know. Rhyming.
Rumble in the jungle. Boxing. B -sides. Oh, we're
here to talk about all the fun shit. Joined by
the homies. Josh, Alex, how you guys doing? Fantastic.
After last night, fantastic. Yeah. This is going
to be a beautiful podcast. Mm -hmm. Actually,
it might piss some people off. Depending on what
we're going to say. Oh, well, 833 -589 -7637.
Get that number ready so that when you hear something
that upsets you, call it in. Tell me why you're
upset. Y 'all going to get moist tonight. All
right. Let's start with our recaps. There's a
little bit to get through before we get to the
big one. This one actually, though, to me, is
kind of important. In the Ariake Arena in Tokyo,
Seiya Tsutsumi, a .k .a. Punchburger, has a draw
with Daigo Higa? Draw, question mark? On the
pick sheet, on the pick league, I was rooting
for Daigo Higa. No illusions about it. I talked
about it with Shinada. You can check out the
side piece episode. He also told me that too,
I think. Yeah, Tsutsumi won that fight. There's
no question in my mind. Had a similar situation
previously with Carlos Adamas. He won that fight.
Yeah, it's just a rough go. Yeah. I hate when
that happens, man. It's just a rough go. Like,
there's so many reasons it could happen. But,
like... I guess the bright side, the glass half
full view of it here is that the next fight should
be better. You see the guys improve. Unless they've
hit a wall, they improve. One problem with Tsutsumi
is he cuts easily. This is not the first time.
And Daigo Higo is eating with his head a lot,
so he was fighting pretty gross. It's just...
Yeah. like they'll both they'll be used to each
other but unless the first fight was like stinky
stinky like similar uh rock 'em sock 'em robots
yeah it'll go good it'll go good it's always
fun yeah who needs brain cells anyway and last
one junto nakatani quick stoppage over uh david
WBC bantamweight title. Tsutsumi retains his
WBA bantamweight title. I expect this is like
you guys are going to be fighting each other
eventually. Nakatani, I don't see him having
competition until either Bam or Inoue. He's so
fucking good. He defies Japanese style of boxing.
He's just... He's ruthless and he's good. He's
a really good finisher. He doesn't yeah in Japan
or with the Japanese coach, so California right
take a little credit for that when he trains
with a Mexican coach He trained who did you show
it again? He's because I know he's California
Rudy Hernandez, I think Yeah Eddie something
Hernandez, I don't remember is that his first
name Because I know he's not with the Diaz brothers.
He's not. No. He's not with anyone well -known.
No, but it's like... He's just like, fuck, just
so solid. Yeah, no notes. This was a number one
contender for his title, and he sparks him in
three. Yeah. This shit wasn't even close. I don't
think Sutsumi is going to give up much of a fight
either. It has to be Bam or Inoue. It has to
be an elite opponent. Sutsumi is tailor -made
for Nakatani. Oh, yeah. Unfortunately, yeah.
Sad to say, but... I mean, fuck. What was it?
Two years ago at this point, it looked like he
killed Andrew Maloney. That fight was... So good.
That's why when I said I like to clown on Jason
Maloney, but not Andrew, it's because of that.
Yeah. I thought Andrew died. It looked like he
just flatlined. Oh, my God. Monstrous straight
left. Exhaustion. Perfectly set up. Yeah. It
landed flush. That was scary. You shot him. Yeah.
No, Nakatani's so good. it's not even that i
need to see him with better competition like
he's fighting the best available other than like
the legacy defining elite fights his contemporary
champions uh yoshiki takei has a wbo uh ryosuke
nishida has ibf and obviously sutsumi wba so
all the belts are in japan there's I know Nishida.
He's with a smaller promotional company. He wasn't
supposed to win when Emmanuel Rodriguez came
out to fight him. That wasn't supposed to happen,
but it did. So got to do something with it, buddy.
Yeah. Cash it in. Well, with Nakatani, he kind
of has no one until. Yeah, the two options. I
mentioned tension. I think it's a fight they
could make. Would it be too early? Probably for
the next two years, it probably will be. But
Nakatani will be moved up. I'll say next 304.
Depends on how Nasukawa progresses. That's true.
There's a chance he just flourishes in his next
two fights and we're talking about him as a viable
opponent for Nakatani next. Nagatani's one of
those guys I really just can't complain about.
Fights the best guys available. He's going to
keep doing that, and the elite fights will come.
Can't wait for the anyway fight. Yeah. That's
a Super Bowl. Japanese Super Bowl. Oh, my God.
That's a real super fight. If they stick that
on the New Year's card. Oh, I'll be great. We
got to make the trip. Oh, that would be one worth
going out there for. I think we're making the
trip. I'm maxing out a credit card to make the
trip. That would definitely be worth it. Because
that's a lifetime type of thing. CIBC, you didn't
hear that? I'm not maxing out my credit card.
But I would max out my credit card to go watch
Inoue Nakatani on New Year's. I think I could
die happy after that. That would be something
you'll never see again. Yeah. I'd take the Ollie
Frazier of the Japanese. Live podcast at the
hotel afterward. Yeah, those are always fun.
Actually, they're a lot of fun. Hell yeah. Anything
more for the Japanese card? Come on, anyway.
I would like Tim Zhu. Charlo. Where are you?
All right, let's knock some quick ones out of
the way here so that we can get to the meat of
the dish. On Friday, February 28th, Rocky Hernandez
versus Rene Deyes. Rocky gets a UD, so congrats
to him. Black Leamy's a good venue. Is it? Like,
get no? Very nice casinos. Very nice hotel. It's
a good small venue. Good small hall shows. Cool.
March 1st. The beginning of the day. No Limit
in Brisbane. Liam Wilson. You may remember him
from fighting Oscar Valdez. Topric snubbed me
on that one. Motherfuckers. Yeah. Yusef Dib.
They rematched. Liam Wilson gets the UD. Moving
to match room in Belfast. I'm calling it Ireland.
It's not Northern Ireland. There's only one Ireland.
United Kingdom. There we go. We're the wokest
boxing podcast. The wokest would say there's
only one Ireland and it's the Republic. Anyway.
Two fights that I wanted to point out. Craig
Richards stops Patrick McCrory in eight. It was
fun scrap. I think they called it a good old
Irish dust -up, even though I think Craig Richards
is British. Yeah. Lewis Crocker wins by disqualification
in the eighth. Patty Donovan. Did you guys watch
this one? Yeah. That was a... It's unfortunately
not the worst ref call of the day. No. It was
not. It was not, but for the context of the fight,
the DQ was correct, but we should not have gotten
there to begin with. The two points taken earlier
was kind of soft. For a headliner. Domestic dust
-up between two undefeated prospects. That's
the two points you see in an amateur ring. It's
not something you see in a pro fight at this
stage. No, never. The DQ, yeah, I hit him after
the bell. On top of a lot of other things. Yes.
But, like, the referee... Is supposed to be aware.
Of how much time is left in the round. And he
should be way closer. Especially with how raucous.
That venue allegedly was. Allegedly. Yeah. Everybody.
Commentary. We had one guy that was there. And
he was saying. This place is fucking nuts. Yeah.
Like, hell, even, like, amateur boxers and, like,
the referee has to be there. It gets fucking
loud. And any replay, and he's just sitting so
far away that there's no way, like, unless he
can stop time and walk up to the boxers and that
split second when the bell rings, there's no
way he's getting in there to prevent that. Makes
sense. Like, It was just lazy refereeing, and
I don't think, like, the rematch, like, Patty
Donovan, uh, Loose Crocker's gonna get his ass
beat again. He was getting fucking murdered.
Oh my goodness. That was, that shit was not even
close. It was, it was so bad. The interview after
the fight was kind of embarrassing, too. They're
admitting that their plan was to Homer Simpson
Patty Donovan. What? They were like, we'll get
him in the later rounds after we weather the
storm. And I'm like, unless you are Homer Simpson,
it's not happening. So for context for everybody,
throughout the eight rounds, Patty Donovan was
headbutting. He was throwing elbows. He got two
points docked in different rounds for headbutts.
So to get disqualified for a shot, after the
bell. Here's the problem that I have with the,
it was loud. It was, it was really rowdy in there.
So he couldn't hear it is that he throws the
last punch and it lands. Crocker goes down. Did
he, maybe he milked that one a little bit. Eh,
perhaps his eye was in really bad shape and it
just got tagged again. I don't know. I'm not
gonna, I can't speak for Crocker and how the
situation with his eye, but after he threw that
punch, patty's hands like he started walking
back to his corner so i don't know i i feel like
he heard it and he threw it anyway just my my
sense i wasn't there would have been the how
they saw it yeah it i i also have the benefit
of all the camera angles and like sound isolation
and blah blah blah all the technology and patty's
just in there throwing punches that's With a
fuckload of people screaming. Yeah, like we're
not there. Exactly. We get to watch. I wasn't
there, so I can't speak. I can only tell you
what I think happened. And that was just my speculation.
So we'll leave it at that. Moving down. Queensberry
this time in Burnmouth. This was in England proper.
Only two fights I wanted to point out. Carol
LaTalma. He's related to Moses. So the younger
brother. The smaller brother, I should say. Gets
TKO3 over... Shit. Mikhail Ludvichak. I'm getting
better with these really European names. I'm
going to be honest with you. This is thanks to
the MMA show. That's where I... The Dagestani
names are really... They're clutching up. Yeah.
They're coming in clutch. Send your kid two,
three years to Dagestan. Forget. And the main
event, Ryan Garner, UD over Salvador Jimenez
for the vacant... What is this? Was that EBU?
I believe it was. EBU. Yeah. The WBC International
130. So, congrats to Garner. Does this matter
in the division? Not really. Not yet. England,
the UK, and Japan. They have a domestic progression,
a domestic ladder that does matter. So when you're
seeing these Euro guys or UK guys get the British
title, Commonwealth title, then they step up,
they get the EBU title. or some version of, like,
the WBC European or whatever, that matters. Yeah.
Because these guys are climbing the ladder that
is, that's their system. So you're going to be
seen. Yeah. Better than the American ladder,
I'll tell you that. It is. It is a lot better.
Yeah, I guess as fans get to be more overly critical
because they get showcased at this stage by major
promoters because they don't have, like, a pro
box. Yeah. They haven't got a Pro Box. Matchroom
Next Gen is getting off the ground, but it's
not Pro Box. Yeah. And it will never be Pro Box.
We stand Pro Box in this house. You can only
emulate greatness. You gotta stay loyal. Exactly.
Alright, let's move on to last one before the
big deal. In... Fajardo Puerto Rico. Salida Promotions.
And there's some other local one. They have a
funny name. I forgot to take note. Comey. Alfredo
Santiago versus Javier Fortuna. God damn. There's
a name I did not want to hear anymore. Just whatever.
Subreal Matias in the main event. Which one?
Which one what? Which name did you not want to
hear? Javier Fortuna. The dude is way, way past
it. And he's doing these domestic level things.
So I guess congrats on keeping your career going
at this point. But he's well past his prime.
He's at a level. I would call this my unified
theory of fight sports laundry. so at the tail
end of your career before you're washed you're
in the hamper because you're you still have a
little bit of name value you know so you can
still do some stuff but you're definitely not
who you used to be and you're about to get put
in the wash if you keep going too long and that's
where fortune is at i think he's been in the
wash for me yeah he's been there for a bit so
it's even like then the one where if the the
other step if you skip You could go from the
hamper to the wash if you quit on your own. But
if you don't, you keep going. You become like
a dirty rag. Yeah, he's a dirty rag. That you
clean up. You clean up your... Un trapo. You
clean your shit with. Yes, el trapo. Yeah. That's
what you become if you don't stop. The trapo
theory. I love it. Yep. Fight sports laundry.
Uh, Subaru Matias in the main event, he beats
the shit out of Gabriel Valenzuela. Um, it was
eventually stopped. I don't remember what round
I think is the seventh, sixth or seventh. Good
for Matias. Yeah. Uh, that was like a final eliminator
for IBF. So Matias should be getting a shot at
Hitchens. That's not good for Hitchens. If he
can do his usual, like, dumpster fire voodoo,
then it should work. But I really hope he just
beats the shit out of Hitchens. Why is that?
Because I don't like the way he fights. I just
want to see what you would say. I hold the view
here. A 140 with Matthias in the world title
mix will always be fun. Oh, hell yeah. He's vulnerable.
He can totally be outboxed, but fuck, he's dangerous.
And it's not even like he's dangerous in, like,
a wilder way where it's a suspense. No, he's
dangerous. He's got bricks for hands, and he
can't really apply them, so he will just break
you. And he's got a kill list already. He does.
Yeah. People forget we could die in boxing. Sabrina
Matias has killed a dude in the ring. This shit's
real. Unless it's Liam Parra, of course. I mean,
even his second fight with Petros Anyan. Oh,
I can't pronounce that. With Petros. You got
it. Anyan. That was a tough watch near the end.
I was thinking the same thing. I was like, man,
we don't need to see another Dadashev. Somebody
needs to step in and stop this. Just beat the
piss out of him after the third round. Yep. I
remember that. I was like, it's Zubril Matias.
Who the fuck is this? Let's check out his catalog.
Oh, he killed a guy. Oh, yeah. Dada Chef. What
happened to Dada Chef? Oh, he's dead. Oh. Awkward.
Yeah, awkward. Holy shit, man. 140 has just this
bevy of, like, mental patience and, like, vulnerable
champions at the top, too. So, like, Teofimo
Lopez comes dialed in? Okay. Like, yeah, he can
totally beat Matias. He comes in on an off night,
and Matias... Retires him. Yeah. But these fights,
they're dramatic, but not because of what might
happen. They're dramatic because of what does
happen, and I like that. I like Matias bouncing
back. He's been having a good bounce back. Give
him another title shot. Fuck it. Yeah, he's earning
his way back up. I would want to see him against
Hitchens, though. I do want to see him. Hitchens,
it's your time. Yeah. I'm going to give it your
all. His contemporaries. So he's going up for
Hitchens at the IBF. Teofimo and Barbosa have
to rectify their title situation. Alberto Pueyo,
split decision, question mark. Question mark,
exclamation point over Sandro Martin. I don't
think Martin lost that fight. As ugly as everyone
says his style is, it doesn't fucking matter.
I don't think he lost. Alex, do you think Poirot
won it out? No, not at all. I'm just going to
start with this stat. I already knew PBC was
going to be on the bullshit this night. As you
can see in the chat, I call it out each time.
I call it each and every motherfucking time.
that they pulled the shit. I knew they were going
to fucking rob Sandor Martin. I knew it. Man,
you can't go to bat for Sandor Martin, bro. You
got to pick your battles. You can't go to bat.
You can't go to war for Sandor fucking Martin,
bro. No, no, no, no. Because you know how many
times Sandor Martin has been robbed? Dude, I
don't care. Three losses? I don't care, dude.
I don't care. Sandor Martin deserved to win.
He deserved a title. Maybe he's not the best
style to watch, but he definitely didn't lose
that fight. And honestly, that was a fun fight
to watch. It was not a bad fight to watch. I
liked it. And I think Sandor Martin... I think
Sandor Martin... Yeah, it was for the sickles
like us. And I think Sandor Martin pulled it
off pretty easily. And the fact... Yeah, cleanly.
And the fact that they... My God. It's already
getting me mad. Because I already had all this
pent -up aggression for the main. I think...
But I just remember... Last week, I brought up
this point. I brought up this point about exclamation
marks. And, again, we have the benefit of being,
like, he was robbed because we see the whole
fight and all the work. But if Sandor Martin,
like, say what you will about his style, he's,
like, allergic to putting an exclamation mark
on a round. He operates with... He has the M
.O. that he can just steal a round. I figured
it out. No matter what. When, like, regardless
of the circumstance. That's his M .O. Because
Sandor Martin... needs to put an upside down
exclamation point before he can put an exclamation
point. But, no, like, he's just, like, so, like,
if you're a ringside judge where you can only
see it from one side. One angle. And Foyo Shu
shines him at the end of a round. Or Martin.
That only happened in, like, the last five, four
or five. I know. I was about to say, yeah. I
know. It's just, like, Sandor Martin doesn't.
He doesn't. I get. I get it. I get. that Varden
was hard done, but his style also does himself
no favors. True. Yeah, that's true. He's risk
-averse, which is cool. You don't get hit that
much. You can outbox the other guy. You also
don't hit the other guy that much. That's true.
You're right. However... It's controversial,
but it creates controversial decisions where
you're just like, yeah, send or beat him, but...
Like, the juice isn't there. Stan Dore was pretty
aggressive for his style, of course. He was more
aggressive. Exactly. He was more aggressive than
how he's been in his past. I don't even know
how many fights. This is the most aggressive
I've seen Stan Dore Martin. You know what I mean?
Fair. And so, for me to watch that, let me tell
you this. Actually, I want to become a PBC judge.
I want to be a judge so I can become fucking
rich. Because those motherfuckers, I swear to
God, they want some bullshit. Eight to four for
Puyo? I like Puyo. Yeah, eight to four for Puyo
is kind of stinky. That's rough. It's so fucking
stinky, dude. It hurt me. It hurt me. I'll be
devil's advocate with a lot of judging stuff
for these types of fights because it's like you
see one side of it. So if all the action happens
on one side of the ring for a round, you're basically
guessing. With the cameras in front of you and
bullshit in front of you. That's facts. Judges
should be in isolation booths in the back. Yeah.
Especially if you... Let's say you only catch...
Because you have the camera crew in front of
you in the whole presentation. Most of the action
happens on one side of the ring. And then when
it comes over to your side, you see Pueyo have
a good moment. That's what sticks in your head.
And even if you're not thinking it like subconsciously,
you'll be like, yeah, I think this close round,
I'll shade it to Pueyo. Because I saw more. Yeah,
I saw more from Pueyo. And it's subconscious
because these judges will be like, it's just
like it's a flaw with boxing. But also some of
these guys don't do themselves any favors later
in the fight. It's true. Because it can be, like,
you'll think Puyo's up six. Or, like, you'll
think Sandor's up five or six. But, like, it
can totally be, like, three -two if the rounds
were remotely close and depending on the angle,
whatever. No, you're right. I agree with you.
I'm not saying the decision was right. I'm just
saying it's not... You can't throw shit at all
the judges for weird scorecards when, like...
The sport is just set up against them to actually
see the fights. But the scorecard, an A4 scorecard,
though? No, that was bullshit. That's gotta be
bullshit, dude. That's like the 118 -110 Kellum
Smith. He won the fight, but come on. They obviously
had... You know what I mean? Well, it's not...
The Kellum Smith one, I'll give you the... I'll
defend that one a little bit just because oh
like you know you grade it round by round it's
not so like if you if you if you have a bunch
of close rounds in a row and it was a close fight
it was a good fight but you shade them all for
one person because you think they did slightly
more it just looks like they won by a country
mile when it's it's a close fight it's deceptive
that way kind of thing yeah 118 110 it's still
wild to me There wasn't 181, was there? I thought
it was 7584. Oh, Callum Smith. I'm sorry. But
for that, for Callum Smith, but the Callum Smith
one, like if he shaded all those rounds by like
1%, it comes out to that score. The same as if
he just beat his ass for that many rounds. It's
just in how the score is scored. Well, like I'm
just like this is the point of view I have from
like like I like I hang around ringside and I
corner bought like amateur events I've fought
in amateur events. It's just kind of like I Don't
booze until after I leave the venue. So you just
kind of watch how everything is. I Totally understand
this, you know, I think is I totally get what
you're saying But come on, dude. Come on. Yeah.
No the perception the optics are horrible. The
optics are yeah, I understand I agree with that
point. I have made that point a lot in the past,
that if it's a super competitive fight, but one
dude is getting it 51 -49, like I said, just
by a smidgen every single round, then it's going
to look like it's bad when it's 118 -110. But
if you're just looking at the numbers, it does
not tell you the story of the fight. seeing it
up close you really have to watch you really
have to you gotta think about whether like like
you have to watch the fight and decide whether
it was close or not because if like if one like
there's a difference between like a clear cut
like that guy won robbery and like a close fight
with a lopsided scorecard because a judge from
one angle with a ton of moving parts around them
saw gave a guy 51 49 eight times To cap it off,
I'm going to say one thing in particular, and
that's Josh, you had said can't throw shit at
judges, you know, because they have just a single
seat and a shitty vantage point. I'm going to
disagree. I can shit on judges all I want because
I'm an armchair fucking warrior. True, true.
See, I decide to shit on fighters because they
can control it. That's true. We're different
breeds of... They can text me and I'll tell them
what the score is. Yeah, they can also score
it how I want to. Yeah, they can score it how
I say they should. Everyone would be happy. True,
true. That's facts. You know what? The fighters
could just knock each other out. They could be
better. That's facts. Why leave it to the judges?
Yeah. The judges are an option. Like, if we're
going for true armchair analysts, why didn't
Sandor just knock him out in the first round?
You know what? That's right. Is he stupid? He
might be. He should have actually knocked out
Teofimo. Fuck, he was so open. If Sandor took
any... If Sandor wasn't, like, was into taking
risks, he probably could have stopped Teofimo
just by knocking him down eight times. You get
ahead of the Devon Hayes treatment. Nobody wants
to fight anymore. Well... The woke left. It's
the woke left. We'll get to a guy that... Alright,
let's move up. I need to cue up a sad song here.
Ryo Valenzuela loses his title in a one -sided,
like a 120 -108. The homeboy just got completely
swept by Antoine Russell. Man, I was hoping Ryo
would pull it out, but damn, dawg. You can't.
I'm at a loss for words at the moment. Alex,
kick us off. What do you got? Honestly, I was
speechless during the fight. Just because I honestly
expected Ryo to do so much more. He wasn't active
at all that fight. I don't know what was up with
him. It was totally passive. And with Robert
Garcia as well, what was his corner doing? You
know? I'm not asking that, like, it's Robert's
fault. I'm asking, like, legitimately, like,
I didn't really see a lot of commentary from
Robert's corner because they didn't really focus
enough. Because, obviously, they're favoring
Gary Antoine Russell. You know what I mean? He's
the house fighter. He's the house fighter. Well,
they're both house fighters, but the thing is
that, I mean, they're going to favor Gary Antoine
Russell. They're both house fighters in that
they're in the PBC stable, but Antoine Russell
is the house fighter. Yeah, where they were at.
Yeah. Honestly, I'm going to be honest, even
if it went to the decision and Ryle put up a
good fight, I still think they would have robbed
him. Not robbed him, but they would have given
it to Darius Juan Russell. If he did put up a
good fight, of course. He needed to knock out
JR to win. Russell's work was obvious. It was
obvious. It was crisp. It was super clear, even
to the judges. You could hear that shit on the
broadcast, too. Those were thudding body shots.
That's how you know it's a guy who has power.
Ryo, though, only has himself to blame because
every counter he threw pretty much hit. Yeah,
he was very accurate. He was so accurate. If
he just turned the activity up a smidge or put
his legs into it a bit more... We'd probably
get a different result. It makes Russell a very
entertaining fight with the rest of the division,
though. Knowing that he's that prone to counters.
You know how Ryo fought in the 12th? He should
have fought like that the whole fight. The first
six rounds, he let off the hook. No, I think
the first nine rounds. I was going to say six.
God, that's generous. Okay, now who's the bad
guy? No, nine is still generous. Nine is still
very generous. Because you know what? I don't
even think he had it really in him, that fight.
I don't know what the hell was up with him. I
will say, Ryo definitely just thought he could
one -shot Russell with any of these counters.
For sure. He fought like he could one -shot Russell.
And he just didn't. He fought like a certain
someone on this same card that we'll get to right
now. But he ain't that type of guy. Let's say...
Russell fought great, though. Full credit to
Russell. He looked really good against a really
good opponent. Can I say something about Russell?
I'll say this. Russell was... Russell was good,
no doubt about it. I think that's probably the
best I've ever seen him. That was a career -defining
moment. You know what I mean? Especially after
a loss like that. The thing is with that, with
the whole situation with that fight, why did
he get a title shot? Why? He wasn't in the mandatory.
They just gave it to him. Right? And he took
it. Wait, can I say something? Wait, wait, wait.
I don't mean it like that. I'm saying he took
it, and you could tell, even me, I didn't really
believe in Gary Antoine Russell, but I'm going
to use the same exact argument for, again, the
next fight, but he took the fight, he brought
it to fucking Ryo, dude. He believed in himself,
and he, oh my god, it was great. What I'm going
to say about Russell is that he needs better
shot placement. Because if he can place those
shots better, dude, he's going to be a fucking
killer. In my opinion. I just feel like he can't
process it. He already has trouble processing
a fluid defense -offense transition. Yeah. I
feel like that's just how he's going to be. Fortunately,
yeah. I fully agree with you. He definitely has
space to improve, but that's just how he's going
to be for the rest of his career. I agree, yeah.
I mean, I got to respect, he kind of just brought
the fight to Ryo, and that's... Yeah, no, Ryo.
That was a fun fight, too. It's not like... Russell
definitely... Like you'd think a lesser guy like
fucking Chris Colbert would have just folded
getting hit with those shots. It's not like Ryan
wasn't landing. It was just his activity was
down and he couldn't really figure Russell out
until the very, very end. Honestly, with that
fight, I was surprised he did that good. We take
those results. It's good for the division too.
Yeah. It just felt like a little bit, it kind
of felt like they were kind of like going to
bank off the loss of GAR to try to give Ryo a
win. And so, and I realized during the fight,
I was like, okay, actually, it's the opposite.
You know what I mean? Like, don't mind it. It's
good matchmaking. And the loser, it's not like
the loser's completely out. 140's pretty stacked.
Yeah. And you know what? Like, GAR, he's a very
entertaining fighter. He's a very entertaining
fighter. That I like to watch. I'm going to be
excited to watch it from now on. Because last
night, I was kind of made a fan of him. You know?
Kind of reminded me of a throwback fighter. You
know what I mean? That's my two cents. No disagreement
here. All right. Good. I was just sitting back
and soaking that all in. That was great. All
right. Now, last one. I think, Alex, I gave you
the backstarts. So, Josh, let's... Gervonta Davis,
majority draw for Lamar Bush. What the fuck?
Go on. That... My insane take is that Tank is
no... Kind of... He has a propensity to underperform
against opponents, like, who are smaller than
him and the... Like, just in general. Like, please
remember the Gamboa fight. He looked about the
same. He looked about the same with Gamboa. Like,
it's just something he has where, like, if he's...
Especially with, like, a counterpuncher on his
level. If you're not 100 % dialed in, your feet
are going to be shit and your defense is going
to be shit. And it doesn't matter how powerful
you are. Like anyone can beat you when you're
not focused. I think it was embarrassing and
disappointing for Tank to go out and do that
right on the cusp of getting his legacy matchups
because now we're going to waste six months where
he's just going to beat Lamont Roach's ass in
the first round because he's going to show up.
actually focused. It's a waste of time, and it's
embarrassing, but it's not unexpected. What do
you guys think? You want to go first? No, go
ahead. I got a lot to say on the last thing.
I got a lot to say. I got a lot of shit to talk
about. Alright, I'll get in there. I think, Josh,
you nailed it. What I was going to say, anyway,
is he wasn't... He didn't take this seriously.
Like, he was expecting that he was going to get
the, what, knockout in the first four rounds
or some shit. And he just kind of toyed around
looking for an opening. And when it didn't present
itself, he just didn't seem to have any other
plan. And big ups to Lamont Roach. My man did
not get it. He won just because Gervonta Davis
could not adapt to the possibility that someone
is not going to let themselves get chinned. Yeah.
And it's not, it's just his feet. His feet are
still, like, he has to set those traps. With
Ryan, he had, with Ryan, he moved laterally and
set those traps. So when Ryan came streaking
in, he was in position to throw. Raleigh, same
thing. He positioned himself. He didn't make
big moves. He crept back to the ropes, sidestepped.
His feet were there. And when he's not focused,
he just stands there and takes punches. Like
with Gamboa. The Gamboa fight was the same shit.
He showed up unfocused and it's just... It just
becomes embarrassing to watch. Alex, it's time.
Listener discretion is advised. I think we're
going to have some NC -17 extreme language. Not
suitable for under -17s. Yeah. This is gonna
be the people versus Tank Davis. The people versus
Tank Davis. The people. The people of the Boxing
B -Sides. The people. Don't lump us in. Alex
of Boxing B -Sides versus Tank Davis. Let me
tell you this. I'm gonna start off with the simple
fact that Tank has the makings of an all -time
great. Okay. No doubt about it. This fight. Has
tarnished that. It has dragged it through the
mud. And as a boxing fan. It has made me. Severely
disappointed. In Javante. The fact. That he brought
up someone. From Super Featherweight. Gave him
a shot at the title. And arguably. Lost the fight.
Is just. It's astounding. And that's only a little
part of the argument. Okay? Let me ask you guys
this, okay? When in the history of boxing has
someone taken a knee, gone to the corner, and
had their face wiped? And it was not ruled a
knockdown? Answer me. I'm being serious. Tell
me. When has this ever happened in boxing? Because
I don't remember any time. I think I saw a Sunday
Puncher member get 10 ,000 likes on Twitter by
posting that clip of Crawford getting knocked
down by Mean Machine and not having it called.
I've seen knockdowns not get called that were,
like, legitimately, like, punch knockdowns. Yes.
No. Or stupid technicalities where, like, the
dude slips, but he got tagged. You know what
I mean? Yes. A knee? But going to the corner.
I'm talking about going to the corner and talking
to your corner. How is that legal? How is that
legal in boxing? Honestly, my thought, seeing
it live, I kind of short -circuited being like,
what the fuck is happening? There is a non -zero
chance that the same thing happened to Steve
Willis because, again, when have you seen it
happen? Like, odds are that it... Sorry, keep
talking. Sorry. Like, I'm not saying put yourself
in his shoes because he obviously should know
better, but also, like, it's something so baffling.
Like, if you've seen every, if you're a boxing
referee who's seen everything and it's something
completely new, it's not a boxer asking for a
timeout. He takes a knee, pivots on that knee,
gets up, gets his face wiped, and he's back to
fighting. Like, what? Hold on. The audacity.
I know. The audacity. Yeah. The audacity. Let
me ask you this. The audacity. Let me ask you
this. Would Lamont have gone DQ'd if he ran up
the tank and started hitting him? Probably not.
Well, I think he probably would have. He probably
could have if he did that. No. I feel like in
that case, you get the knockdown called, though.
But there's a point deduction for hitting a guy
when he's down. So like it evens out. But in
that case, you force the call. Oh, if he had
jumped on him and he says, oh, yeah, you can't
hit him right now. Like, well, he's down. Why
not? Why can't I? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Like in that
case, you do. Yeah. Like in that case, it turns
it from like a weird non -boxing thing to like,
OK, boxing. Boxing boxing moment boxing foul
Mm -hmm, right like it contextualizes it. I'm
not defending it. Anyway, that's fucking ridiculous
But I was then how it was missed because you
have like 80 ,000 people screaming at you And
like this is something completely new you're
an old fuckers refereed forever and like Let
me just take a sec. Let me say this That was
on purpose. That's Steve Willis right there.
That was Mayweather's guy. That was Mayweather's
man. Steve Willis is like... You can't say that
was Bayless, bro. Steve Willis is the guy...
Steve Willis is the guy who makes the faces.
Like crab walks and eyes pointing in opposite
directions. Yeah, he makes the faces. He was
in porn in the early 2000s. Wait, wait, wait.
Okay, okay, okay. You're right. You're right.
That actually takes a little bit. Yeah, Jar Jar
Binks. Jar Jar Binks. You're right. Jar Jar Binks.
You're right. That's my bad. That's my bad. That's
my bad. To the casual audience, that's my bad.
I'm also casual. I just show my true casual side.
Look. Look. That don't matter. That don't matter.
Because you know what? That's still bull. That
is still bull. That tank can go to a corner and
get his face wiped off and talk to the corner
and not get an appointment deducted. At least,
my thing is that what did it did it did it uh
did he start counting was it didn't they didn't
i think three or four no but the thing is that
like he looked you know how when someone goes
down and then they look at the timekeeper who's
actually keeping track of the count he picked
up the count at like three and then but like
again it's just the processing thing We all looked
at it. It took a second to realize what was happening.
It was like, what the fuck? I saw that in chat.
Steve Willis, he doesn't have the benefit of
being able to take that second because there's
a professional sporting event happening. He's
got to make a decision. And sometimes the best
decision is no decision. If you really don't
know what's happening, it's easier to make no
decision. than the wrong decision. Granted, no
decision was absolutely the wrong... He made
the wrong decision. For sure. But he took a knee.
Imagine the... If you see a fighter take a knee,
that's an obvious knockdown. His glove touched
the motherfucking floor. He went to his quarter.
His knee touched the floor. That's what matters.
And the thing is, he went to his quarter, so
he went... He ran to his quarter and got his...
But there's no... Like, he got his face wiped.
And then came back immediately. It happened in
the span of a couple seconds. So by the time
you're processing the knockdown, there's three
things beyond that that you now have to process.
It's pretty simple that he took a knee. Yeah.
He took a knee. That's all you gotta know. He
just took a knee. I understand there's different
angles, but it's pretty obvious the brother took
a knee. No, it's a bad missed call, but... I
don't think that was a bad missed call at all.
I don't think so at all. The only way I think
it could have been a missed call is the shock
of seeing Tank Davis take a knee. Maybe that.
Maybe. You literally just said, when does a fighter
take a knee and then go to his court? You described
an impossible scenario, except for this one time.
My point is that you see a fighter take a knee
in the first place, you got to start counting.
That is a rule in boxing. Like Jamal Charlo,
right? I'm not versed enough to think about whether
you can retract a knockdown from it. I don't
know. Please, someone call in and correct me.
Can you retract a knockdown after it's been called
if there's a reason for the knee? Let's say...
833 -589 -7637. Call it in. Yeah. Like, correct
me if I'm wrong, but there would be no way for
Steve to go in between rounds and be like, yeah,
actually, JK, that was my bad. No, that does
allow for replays. So with the video replay,
maybe. I'm just positing. I'm not saying that
it should or shouldn't have been overturned by
replay, but it's an option. I feel like replay,
like the way Nevada does replay should just be
the standard. Yeah. Sure. Because that way, that
way, like, because like what, like, let's say
like, yeah, Steve calls the knockdown and then
no, it turns out it's legitimate. He can't take
back the knockdown. Like either decision you
make in throws the fight off. So, like, from
the perspective of this is a major fight, no
decision was what decision made. And it was wrong.
But also, like, what other way do you... Yeah,
but the thing is that if he calls the knockdown,
yeah, Tank has shit in his eye and he needs it
wiped off. You can't take back that knockdown.
Now Roach wins and it costs Tank the fight. Well,
my thing is this and that. He went to his corner.
That's my whole point, is that he went to his
corner. It wasn't like a pushdown where he took
a knee, he tripped, or he took a knee, right?
He took a knee. He explicitly said, I took a
knee. And he went to the corner. There's no way.
The way I feel is like, there's something foreign
in your eye. You can't call timeouts. You can't,
like, turn to the referee away from your opponent,
be like, hey, I can't fucking see. Can I go get
it wiped off? Because then Roach is just going
to beat the fuck out of him. How early? I was
a little bit asked. I think it was middle of
the round, right? Yeah. Was it? Like, it was
the middle of the round. How did you not notice
that, like, a minute before? Yeah. That's true,
actually. I saw a post of the lady that did Gervonta
taking his hair. She was complaining. She was
like, I put no grease in your hair. You're bullshitting.
You're lying. Stop lying. I don't know. Granted,
the assumption I am making, because it was the
one made, technically the official decision is
that there was shit in his eye, right? Is that
there was shit in his eye. Too much grease on
your face or something. Yeah. Like, take the
case of a... I just can't... Like, that's the
official reason. Like, sometimes... Like, yeah,
you have too much fucking grief. Like, he gets
vastly put on his face in between rounds. That's
normal. Like, just a smidge. But if it's too
much, people will just stop it and make you wipe
it off. Yeah. But that's on the referee to notice.
Yeah. Could have told the referee, like, hey,
there's some shit in my eye. And then Steve Willis
decides, do I stop this right now or no? But
then Roach can just punch him because it's the
middle of the round. Yeah, he hears him say,
there's some shit in my eye. I can't see. Or
like, I got Vaseline in my eye just to game it.
He said it was his hair thing. So just to game
it, like, oh, there's Vaseline in my eye. I can't
see. And then he's like, oh, well, I'll stop
it in 10 seconds. Well, then. I don't know. Yeah,
I feel like the case is, like, remember when
the Spence -Ugas fight, where Spence totally
legitimately, like, his mouthpiece did fall out.
And, like, that's the case. That's, like, the
alternate scenario, where, like, if Tank brings
it up in that way, where he's like, my mouthpiece
is out, Ugas hit him, like, cleanly, within the
rules. But, like... That's like it's it's so
weird that like I feel like that shouldn't define
the fight I feel like the rest of the rest of
decks embarrassing fucking performance. Oh my
god be the topic because focusing on this one
like Grease gaily like once -in -a -lifetime
Occurrence it isn't a grease gate. Everyone gets
Vaseline put on their face and especially in
between rounds once you've been hit Let me tell
you this. Okay, cuz take we guys know takes up
Pretty amazing counterpuncher, right? He's one
of the best. Exactly. So you take that away from
Tank, what does he have? I mean, again, he has
the rest of his skills, but you take away...
You take away his Golden Goose, what do you have?
He needs to actually fight. He needed to fight
Roach. He hasn't really done that. To fight in
the front foot, he hasn't really done that in
a long time. You know what I mean? You guys know
he waits a long time to get started. It's because
usually when he uses his feet, he can set those
traps, though, even having to come forward, like
with Barrios. Because the thing is, you cannot
out -bang tank. You cannot do that in your wildest
dreams, okay? But you can out -skill tank. You
can out -think tank. It's possible. And he did
that last night. Roach did that last night. He
made tank go forward, and he counter -tanked.
With all of his shots. He had an answer for all
of Tank's shots. And honestly. And I hate to
say it. Roach. I'm actually happy to say this.
Roach got the better of Tank. In almost all of
their changes. In my opinion. Just overarching.
Especially given how. Poor. Tank's performance
was. Once he figured out. Oh shit I can't just
knock him out. I actually have to do something
here. How much does the change of head coach
play into this? So much. Calvin Ford had been
the guy that kept them dialed in. That stretch
he had after the Gamboa fight where he actually
started living with Calvin Ford to now. Please,
like, it's not just his performance in the ring.
It's how focused he is on the sport. Like, he
didn't start talking about, oh, I want to retire.
Oh, this is my last bit. Until he got with the
new coach. Like, Calvin Ford needs to be the
dominant voice in this guy's camp. It's just
what it is. Like, just for one of his peers,
a similar case. Look how bad Teofimo went downhill
after Joey Gamache left his camp. They stopped
paying Joey Gamache. I forgot Gamache was in
his corner. Gamache made the game plan for Lomachenko.
The winning plan, motherfuckers. The winning
plan. And then for Kembozos, Gamache was gone
because Lopez didn't want to pay him anymore.
Some guys can bounce between trainers and be
okay. Some guys need their trainer. I don't know,
dude. It pisses me off to see Hank lose like
that. Well, he didn't lose, but he lost. And
in the eyes of the public, he lost. Okay. No,
but he also lost. I don't mean legacy in terms
of like, oh, this fight exposed him. His legacy
is cooked. Because every all -time great even
has... shit nights. You're not going to judge
Ali off of his loss. Leon Spinks. Leon Spinks
was the most comparable one. 7 -0. Who is this
guy, right? Yeah. And you choke. Choke and lose.
Who is this guy? Everyone has their one. But
this one is... This one is bad, though. This
one's really bad. That's another thing, too,
that I think also influenced Tank is him being
mentally unwell before this fight. Because we
all heard, I talked about this with you on the
podcast before, that Gervonta has been talking
about fucking retiring. Yeah. And people say,
oh, he's just saying that for bullshit. No, I
think he legitimately meant that. He legitimately
meant about, yeah, he talked about retiring.
And honestly, I can kind of see Gervonta retiring
after this. I see the timeline of that happening.
You know what I mean? With the timeline, he has
to rematch Roach and then he's lost the chance
at his legacy fights at the perfect time. Exactly.
This is the moment to be having his legacy fights.
The thing is, he could ignore Roach. He could
just move on. But the thing is, there's always
going to be that stain on his career. You know
what I mean? That's going to be part of the promotion
for every single other fight. Exactly. He beat
you. He beat you. I don't care what the judges
said. The guy who lost to Jamel Herring beat
you. This whole fight card was not worth the
$80. I'll tell you that. Except it was not worth
it until Tank losing. I think that made it worth
it. I think we have to consider the health of
the market, though, when we talk about pay -per
-view prices. Because, like, Tank is such a draw.
And if you need $80, like, you need expensive
pay -per -views for stars. The problem isn't
that this is $80. The problem is that nothing
else except for, like, Pro Box is affordable.
Yeah. I think, like, the biggest draws of the
sport should always have expensive pay -per -views
because them fighting, it's like going to a concert
or watching or paying for a concert. It's an
event. Yeah, that's what Floyd Mayweather fights
were. Yeah, they were events. Like, when Canelo
was on that stretch where he'd sell out a stadium
and have a, like, his ring walkout would be a
fucking mariachi band concert. That was literally,
like, it's 80 bucks. I've been at a few of them,
actually. And they're... Yeah. Wow. I just think
the rest of the market devalues this type of
event. Because Turkey will put together a card
that... The card of the century. The card of
the century. Everything's the card of the century.
And it's $20. The next one is the card of the
century, and it's $30. We're going to get to
$80 eventually. but it devalues the rest of the
market because some guys aren't like i would
love for better bf and bevel to be pay -per -view
stars that would be cool they are not so they're
not worth that much and it's not any slight to
their ability it's just like don't pay this you
don't pay the same for a taylor swift ticket
to like your local like cover band You don't
pay the same. I don't know. You don't pay the
same money. Do you think the card was worth it,
though? Because I see what you're saying, but
to pay $80 to see Tank fight... It wasn't worth
$80. That's US prices, right? It's not worth
$80. That being said, I am... Actually, I legally
pay for everything. That's why we're asking about
it. Of course, because we all pay for all of
them. We all pay for all of it. Like, this would
be more worth $80 if the market wasn't so inflated
with, like, three pay -per -views a week that
all require subscriptions, and some of them require
another subscription. Yeah, I agree. Like, it's
just crowded. Like, Matchroom, you gotta pay
for the DAZN subscription, and then nowadays,
anyone with a name is on pay -per -view, and,
like, it's a tough pill to swallow, but you just
have to charge more for your biggest stars. Because
that's the only way you're going to differentiate
them in terms of an earning perspective. I see
what you're saying. I agree. But the thing is,
people don't become pay -per -view stars because
of how much the pay -per -view is worth. They
become pay -per -view stars on who they fight.
Yeah. See what I'm saying? Yeah, but Tank is
a unique case. Canelo had a sellout arena and
everything to fight Avni Yildirim. It's about
the event rather than... We are ostensibly hardcores.
Yeah. We actually think about this stuff. The
average fan goes, hey, did you watch the tank
fight? He beat the fuck out of that guy. Usually.
Right? Yeah, I would say usually. Usually. Usually
it's... His name is Kevin. He's not too far from
here. He often calls in on the MMA show, but
he asks, hey... What the fuck on the tank fight?
That was, like, he texts me. Like, he texts the...
That'll be the only boxing text you get all year
from these types of friends. From outside of
the, you know, Lux family, the SP. Yeah. Like,
from your casual friends, you don't... People
don't say... Yeah, I really love Bivol, better
be of. What a good technicians fight. They go
like, did you watch Jake Paul? Damn, that really
sucked how he beat up that old man. You watched
Canelo beat the fuck out of that scrub. That
was cool. Tank beat the shit out of that guy.
That guy was a world champion. I'm going to need
you to stop with this fucking nuance stuff. How
am I supposed to be mad about... Tank kicking
a fucking knee in the middle of the round. Yeah,
let's get back to that shit, dude. What the fuck?
You invited me. You invited me. We don't know.
Hey, wait, Josh. This is why I want to write
the articles. We're supposed to bring nuance
and fucking thoughtful discussion. Come on. Hey,
Josh, we love you here. Because you know what?
You made me think a lot about that. You're right.
About a lot of that stuff. That's why I'm asking
you to write the articles. You made me forget
I was so angry. So thank you. No. Fuck off. I'm
playing. I'm playing. No, seriously. It was really
good. Like, that was a lot of perspective that
I, as much as I knew in the back of my head,
like, I never consciously thought, like, yeah.
You just got to remind yourself sometimes that,
like, our sport is niche. It is. It is. okay
we we gotta keep rolling like we're pretty fucking
deep into this okay we'll see how much of that
makes the public the public release but it is
important to remind you if you want to hear all
like all the details the weeds patreon man if
you want to hear it and i'm telling you it's
it is i was like just sitting back I consider
myself to be a pretty in -the -weeds, sicko kind
of guy. And I'm just sitting back like, yeah,
yeah, yep, keep going. You guys, you boys, yeah,
keep going. Hopefully articles are posted on
the website soon, hopefully. Josh is a fucking
boss, dude. It's coming together, man. It really
is. Leo, get that set up, please. It is set up.
It's just waiting for you. Oh, shit. Yeah, I'll
start. Let me know how I get that. Okay, that's
besides the point. No, not podcast discussion.
All right. All right, cool. Tank sucked. Hank
sucked this last weekend. Retire. Retire, you
bums. There we go. That's the hot take we fucking
need, man. Retire now. Whoa, whoa, whoa. You
see, even when I'm shocked from a hot take like
that, that's how you know it's fucking controversial.
Damn. That's going to make the podcast, not the
good discussion. That's the fun part. Oh, my
God. That's shocking, bro. I'm going to get a
text like, you told Tank to retire. And I'm like,
wait, you didn't listen to the other 50 minutes
of pay -per -view prices. Like 30, 45 fucking
minutes about a whole lot. Pay -per -view prices.
Pay -per -view prices. No, well, that's just
boxing politics is what it is. And more important
news, my cat has decided to take a shit in the
litter box right next to me. That's always nice.
Get out of here. Final thoughts on Tank Davis
and Mr. Roach. Let's go Lamont Roach. I'm happy
to see him win in the eyes of the public. I was
happy to see Tank Booth. A pro box fighter getting
up there and beating a pound for pound guy. Not
even a pound for pound guy. The pound for pound
guy that is the face of One of the faces of boxing.
One of the faces of boxing. He's on the right
now Mount Rushmore. Oh, yeah. And honestly, can
I say something that might be hot as well? From
that fight, I think... Yeah, don't edge him,
bro. Come on, just speak. Just let her rip. Well,
I'm letting her rip because I've got to prepare
you guys to hear my take. I think Keyshawn, I
think Shakur, and... This is gonna be a little
hot. I think Ryan could have beat Tank on that
night. Bro, I think Josh Padley could have beat
Tank on that fucking night the way he wasn't
moving his feet, bro. Floyd Schofield? Okay,
I actually rate... I am a Floyd Schofield glazer.
Like, I actually thought I had a good chance.
I'm a glazer, so... Like when I saw people being
like, even Boots could beat Tank. And I'm like,
I think Boots could beat Tank normally. I rate
Boots so high. Boots is so good. What? That's
how you know the casuals are watching these fights,
bro. They're like, even Boots, like, Boots is
some shitter. What do you mean, even Boots? Even
Boots. Boots beats him three times in the same
night, bro. Come on. It was funny to watch Tank
lose, and I'm pissed at the decision. But you
know what? As long as everybody thinks he lost,
as long as everybody thinks he lost, that's fine.
My eyes. Glory to the ProBucks empire. Let's
see what happens with Tank. Let's see what happens
with Tank in the next couple years. All right,
previews. All right, preview time. On the 15th
on DAZN matchroom in Orlando at the Caribe Royale.
There's a couple of names, recognizable names,
marginally. Jose Roman Vasquez versus Jaleel
Hackett. I swear I've heard of Hackett before.
Yeah, he was a prospect. I think he got bopped
in his last one. Let me see. A split decision
to Jose Roman. uh okay so they're rematching
to yeah get him back on track so that's cool
oh uh jermaine ortiz got cut from top rank here
he is yeah that was a tough cut that's he's not
bad he put yeah he put in the work like you called
him up every time and he showed up for you yeah
he had good fights too it's not even like he
had stinkers Top ranks is dying. High key. They
fucked up. They're not going to renew with ESPN.
They're going to end up on the zone with their
DVD quality fucking shit ass streams. Jermaine
Probox is calling to you. You want to get back
to the title picture. You want to even be there?
Fastest path to an IBF title shot. It's Probox.
Facts. IBF is the Probox title. Yeah, come on.
You want an IBF title shot? Probox is your guy.
Come on. Moving up, Edgar Berlanga versus Jonathan
Ortiz. Struggling to care. Is Berlanga here?
Who's the one getting fraud checked, though?
I don't know. Can they get a double knockout?
One can hope. One can hope that they both lose.
Go ahead. Next one. Yep. Austin. Is he ammo again?
Ammo Williams. He's the mechanic at one point.
He went to Tiger. He's going to be a mechanic
after Volney's done with him. Versus Patrice
Volney. Volney's been on a few Eye of the Tiger
cards. Had some good success over there, so not
surprising to see him crossing into a bigger...
His one loss to Falcao, it was honestly really
unfortunate. Unfortunate technical decision.
He was really putting it on Falcao at that point
in the fight, but the cut happened and went to
the technical decision. He was coming on, but
he lost the early round. Genuinely. There's a
good chance that Emma Williams loses to Volney.
Volney's a good, good operator. Patrice Volney
is not someone to be trifled with if you don't
come. It's not just it's not just glazing because
I'm Canadian. Well, Amber Williams headlining
is kind of it's kind of questionable. Edgar Berlanga
up there. Well, it's like a well, because Berlanga
like like after he lost everything after like
he stopped getting knockouts when he got cut
from top rank. Yeah, even top rank couldn't even
put him in the protection program. He was that
bad. Eddie Hearns. What's a little bit softer
than protection program? Like the nursery? The
nursery. Where you go to be flabbergasted. The
NICU. The N -I -C -U. Okay. But that's it. That's
all we got. For this one. Beautiful. Parting
words. Yeah, hold on a second. Let me... I gotta
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the shits gotta pay for the for itself. So I
always yeah our our six Yeah, we're quite this
one is gonna be cut very strangely It was gonna
be very interesting, huh it is But it's good.
It's actually really good. Let me let me I'll
start with the parting words. This is a quote
from Helen Keller that I like to use a lot. It's
the best and most beautiful things in the world
cannot be seen or even touched. They must be
felt with a heart. And I always I quoted that
one before on the MMA show to say it's there
is nothing. As much bullshit as we talk, as much
as we like to dump on the sport, we do it because
we love it. And I can tell you, I feel very safe
in saying that I can speak for both of you when
I say there's nothing like a big fight weekend.
Nothing. No, like your favorite team is in the
Super Bowl or the World Series. No, it's not
the same. It just isn't. And I have had my teams
in the Super Bowl, in the NBA playoffs, in the
World Series. It's not the same. There's nothing
like it. This is something that just once you
get a taste for it, you cannot get enough. I'm
telling you, fight sports is the shit. So there
you go. Parting words. Alex, go ahead. Uh, Tank
is on fraud watch right now. And he's just very
happy. And very sad. You said something so beautiful,
bro. I want to say something cool, but I still
got to say my piece about Tank. Be honest to
yourself. To thy own self be true. Speak your
truth, King. What happened was a travesty. And
I hope, I just hope that maybe he can come back
in the future. We'll see what happens. It's a
shitty part of the sport that unfortunately we
get used to. I remember my first time witnessing
a robbery and being like, oh my god, I can't
believe it. At this point, it's just part of
the game. Exactly. Yeah, we love this sport and
we only want to see it improve. There's something
about this sport in every aspect that is wonderful.
And as Karl Marx said, watch Probox. That's exactly
what Karl Marx said, huh? Yeah. Karl Marx. You
can read it in Das Kapital. It says right there.
There's a whole page dedicated to it in bold
font. Watch Probox. Just copy and paste it over.
He held control C and then he held control D.
Exactly. That's just how Karl Marx got down.
All right. So that's it, man. It's a little slow
this weekend, but we'll get there. Watch Pro
Box. Watch Pro Box. If you have Das Kapital,
then get yourself on DAZN because they do have
a lot of lower level promotions on their library.
So if you can, do. If you can't, fuck it. Like,
you're not missing out on too much. Bail the
high C's if you can't pay. Because we're going
to be here telling you all about it anyway. Oh,
yeah. So, with that, we'll see you on the other
side. Hopefully, we'll have some better, more
fun news, at the very least, to fill the gap.
All right.