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The B -Side in boxing. B -Side shit. B -Side.

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B -Side. And the B -Side. Don't brag about taking

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my side piece! Don't brag about taking my side

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piece! The B -Side thing. This is the B -Sides

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Boxing Podcast. I left with his belt and his

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girl. Hey, as I'm sure you've noticed by now,

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Shanada's not on the main show and two other

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people have come into play. This wasn't like

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a conflict or anything. It's just a scheduling

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problem. And we decided to resolve that problem

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by having Shanada be the co -panel on a show

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of her own. And this is where we're at. So this

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is a little bit more freeform, less... in the

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news i guess like or in the fights that just

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happen unless it's like a major event but it's

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just flowing conversation so you'll get to hear

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that whenever we get on to chat uh i don't have

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like a formal introduction the same way i do

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with b -sides so instead i'm just going to drop

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you into the conversation right where it begins

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now is it in that chair space thing yes And where

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would I find said document? If you go to Boxing

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B -Sides, it's at the root of it. My files? No.

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No. Shared files? Boxing B -Sides. Logos written.

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Side piece. Yep. Get it. What is a knee? Was

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it a knee? I've been actually throwing around,

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bouncing around some ideas for a new name. Side

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piece doesn't seem quite as good as I thought

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it would be. People aren't liking it. I thought

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it was funny. I think it's funny too, but I think

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it's like too inside. Too much of an inside joke.

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Our fans are too casual for the name. I guess,

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even when you explain it to them. Or young, maybe.

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Maybe too young. The audio is cut into the intro.

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You can hear them saying it. Right, but when

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was that? Shit, was it 2015? 2014? It's like

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10 years ago. Yeah. Some interesting ones. Extra

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rounds. corner corner talk the locker room locker

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room talk nice uh training camp uh ringside now

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ringside stories i don't know now that i'm saying

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it out loud no i don't think that one fits um

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hmm i'll have to think about it maybe yeah boxing

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overtime overtime but that's more uh i guess

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there's overtime boxing extra rounds overtime

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box yeah The after round? The deeper cut? What

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do they call the change room that the guys go

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to? Is that a locker room? Yes, locker room.

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In boxing? Dressing room or locker room? The

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aftermath? CTE? New name TBD. Yours are better.

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Yeah, yours are better. Bell to bell, the clinch,

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in the clinch. After the bell. After the bell's

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pretty good. But then it's a matter of making

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sure these aren't taken. Yeah, yeah. All the

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good ones are probably taken. People come up

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with some interesting word combinations to try

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to get out of overlapping. We'll just spell it

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wrong. oh geez z's instead of s's every time

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yeah uh so the burning question was it a knee

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it was obviously a knee yeah was it a kd should

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have been should have been so everybody's talking

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about it of course uh the pro box guys had two

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whole podcast shows about it i got the hiccups

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all of a sudden and uh they had they called people

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in from all over to discuss this i'd actually

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recommend that people go look or watch the the

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pro box one yeah everybody agrees that it should

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have been at least a point deduction a bunch

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of people are like it's a disqualification uh

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chris algieri was like well his corner came up

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the stairs with a white towel, so I thought at

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the time that they were conceding, or like throwing

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in the towel. Yeah, it's crazy. And his excuse

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that it was grease doesn't change anything. It

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doesn't make it better. You can't explain your

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way out of it. I'm of the mind. that any explanation

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is just going to make it worse. Just say, like,

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I took a knee, and that was that. Yeah, and,

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like, you can take a knee. That's fine. People

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do it all the time. But even his corner, if you

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listen, they were like, that looked like a submission,

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or whatever the wording is. Like, that looked

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like you were quitting, basically. When he turned

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his back and stuff. Turned his back. And they're

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like, you can't be doing that shit. You're not

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allowed to turn your back. It's in the fucking

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rules. You can't. So you take a knee. You turn

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your back, take a knee, run and lean halfway

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out of the ring. Your corner comes in and interacts

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with you, which is a disqualification. Yeah.

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Like, I don't know. And the ref started counting.

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He did. And then Tank told him to stop. Which

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is fucking madness. Absolutely. And the argument

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that everybody has that is 100 % correct is if

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Roach did any of these, it definitely would have

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been a point off. He probably would have just

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been disqualified. I don't know if they would

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have went as far as disqualifying him, but if

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the roles were reversed, it would 100 % have

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been a point off and definitely would have...

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The very least, a stern, very strong warning.

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Like, that is absolutely not allowed. Any other

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funny business and you're disqualified. Yeah,

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so the turning your back thing is whatever, but

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the corner coming up on the apron, I think, is

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a disqualification 85 % of the time. Yeah. Like,

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and they touched him and stuff. They can't be

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doing that. If you got shit in your eye, you

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have to wait for the ref to tell you you can

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get it. And if it was his hair, people fight

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with their hair all fucked up and bothering them

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and in their face constantly. Like, there was

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that lady whose weave kept falling out. Jesus.

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seen multiple people multiple guys get their

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hair cut in the corner yeah between rounds absolutely

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or taped up yeah but i mean like the the men

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especially tend to just go fuck it cut it off

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it's i don't know his excuse doesn't change the

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fact that it was a knockdown yes if nothing else

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if nothing else it was a knockdown You voluntarily

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took one. People take them all the time. One

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of the quote -unquote hardcore fans fucking boner

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fights, Jose Luis Castillo versus Diego Corrales.

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In that one, he took knees, he spit out his mouthpiece,

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got a point deducted for it because he needed

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the time. People take knees. It happens for whatever

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reason. yeah and if i don't even think he had

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grease in his face or in his eye because if it

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was just grease from sweating like he would have

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been wiping at it he never once wiped his eyes

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not that i saw anyway yeah i shouldn't say never

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once because somebody's gonna go back and watch

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the round and be like you lied but at the time

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he took the knee He wasn't wiping at his eyes

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multiple times. The equivalent would be if somebody

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was getting blood in their eye and just called

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a timeout so that their corner could wipe it

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off. Tim Zoo. I'm sure he would have loved to

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take a break in the middle of the round to get

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the blood wiped off. I was not a Tank fan anyways,

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but this is fucking ridiculous. Yeah, inexcusable.

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And two of the three refs gave him that round.

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Like, did you see that? Yeah, to make it worse,

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there's chatter. The WBA president, he's kind

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of spearheading it, like, this shit needs to

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get overturned. That was absolutely wrong. And

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he has as much to lose. With Tank not having

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that title, because he's a cash cow. Of course

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he's going to want Tank to be a belt holder.

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Well, and they do have video replay, right? That

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fight was in New York? I don't know if New York

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does. New York definitely does. If the fight

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was in New York, they have video replay. Like,

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what the fuck, guys? Seriously. That was round

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nine, was it? No, it was early. Seven? I think

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it was earlier than that. I'm going to check.

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You go ahead. You have like multiple rounds.

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You have 10 fucking minutes to figure it out.

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Like, I don't know. It's ridiculous. How did

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that not rear its head before is curious to me.

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I am sure New York has video replay because I've

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seen a couple times where they. called, like,

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knockdowns and then were like, oh, no punch,

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or called, you know, cuts caused by headbutts.

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You were right, it's the 9th. But still, you

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have, like, that's a lot of time to look at a

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video replay and announce it to the judges and

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the crowd. And you had eight rounds where you

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weren't having grease problems. Yeah, that's

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the other thing. Such a bullshit made -up story.

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Yeah, I'm not a fan of it either. Anyways, it

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was a knockdown and Roach won. Roach absolutely

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won the fight. That knockdown is 115 -112 justice

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for Roach. Well, it'd be even more of a swing,

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wouldn't it? If two judges gave it that round

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to Tank, it'd have to go the other way. That's

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a three -point swing on two cards. So then it'd

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be 116 -111. Yeah. Which is a fair margin. That

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is quite... He beat Tank. He definitely beat

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Tank. The world knows. The hood knows who won

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that. The whole hood knows who won that fight.

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Speaking of the whole hood knowing, Serrano Taylor

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Part 3 is officially official for July. I don't

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know how to feel about it. They were both really

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good fights. I could see why. the trilogy is

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needed but taylor's old man i've been saying

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for a while that i just want her to retire and

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be the living legend that she is like right off

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into the sunset before you're because i swear

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to god she's starting to slur her words and stuff

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everybody's like oh that's just her accent but

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i don't think it is No, I don't think it is either.

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It's getting worse. Before, what, side piece

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era time frame, like, yeah, it's her accent,

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but not anymore. Yeah, I don't know. I don't

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know how to feel about it either. They were two

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good fights. Third fight's probably going to

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be great. I said it last time and I was wrong,

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but I think Serrano's going to win. And then

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you have, what, two to one? Still? The more they

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do this, the more time between the fights, it's

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just more time that Taylor gets older, Serrano

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gets more time to figure it out. And I hope they

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do three -minute rounds. I really do. If they

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do three -minute rounds, that would be better,

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for sure. But Taylor's getting old. And it's

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not like she gassed in the last fight, but...

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Suddenly jumping to three -minute rounds when

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you're... She's got to be close to 40, isn't

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she? If she's not 40? I believe she's 38, but

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I'm not 100%. Like... Jumping to three -minute

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rounds that late in your career... I mean, if

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anybody can do it, Katie Taylor can do it, but

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it just seems like a bad idea to me. But... She

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could be, you know, one of the first women to

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do three -minute rounds for... That would be

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a title fight, right? Yeah, undisputed. Yeah.

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Yeah, and you're right. She is 38. Look at me.

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I don't know what round Tank went down in, but

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I know how old Katie Taylor is. Well done, me.

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I mean, arguably, Katie Taylor is more... important

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than tank anyways now that he's a fucking loser

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and a whiny bitch oh i got grease in my eyes

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coach come wipe it off for me this guy's beating

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me up and i don't know what to do if they rematch

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i think roach is probably going to get knocked

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out if they rematch maybe but everybody knows

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he won that first fight absolutely man the whole

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hood knows it's gonna it's gonna keep coming

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up because i'm still fucking miffed every time

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i think i'm like okay i'm gonna stop talking

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about it i'm gonna stop thinking about it and

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then less than an hour later i'm like fucking

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that was angry that was a fucking knee it was

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clearly a knee yeah god tank lost he lost Well,

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and it bugs me because what's that ref's name?

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Steve Willis. Yeah, he's usually so good. He

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is? Like, I usually like Steve Willis. He's a

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good ref. He is. And he started the count. Why

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did he stop? I remember back when I had hair,

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I remember having to deal with grease as well.

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I almost did a racism. I was talking about it

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with Alex and Josh on the proper B -sides. And

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that was something I had mentioned. I had called

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it pomade. Oh, yeah. I know pomade. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. I was like, did you guys not use that?

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Because I... the way i grew up like i always

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had this i'm surprised if they haven't the slick

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back hair and i used it's called three flowers

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that was the pomade it's just hair grease uh

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no my my boyfriend used a different one and we

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had to drive all over to find it because it was

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not popular anymore when he was still using it

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but uh he had he went gray really really young

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and when you go gray it changes the texture and

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so he would use it almost as leave -in conditioner

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oh yeah i know exactly the type you're talking

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about i don't know any names any brand names

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but i know the type you're talking about well

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it is just pomade like it says on it pomade but

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this one has softener in it softener is not the

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right word but when we go yeah when we go rock

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climbing he'd slick back his hair so it wasn't

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in his face and then for the next like Four or

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five days, his hair would be super soft. Was

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it Dapper Dan? No. I looked all over for Dapper

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Dan. I don't think that's even a real one. It's

00:18:25.279 --> 00:18:29.019
not. That's from the movie. Yeah. I don't want

00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:32.240
pop, god damn it. I'm a Dapper Dan man. Dapper

00:18:32.240 --> 00:18:37.140
Dan. I'm a Dapper Dan man. I can't remember what

00:18:37.140 --> 00:18:38.819
it was called. That's going to bother me now.

00:18:40.680 --> 00:18:44.140
I also don't know how you spell pomade. I think

00:18:44.140 --> 00:18:49.539
it's P -O -M -A -D -E. Yeah. It'll be one of

00:18:49.539 --> 00:18:53.220
the top brands in Canada, I'm sure it is. Speaking

00:18:53.220 --> 00:18:57.759
of bothering you, the Times Square card. Are

00:18:57.759 --> 00:19:03.119
you familiar? Yeah, kind of. I've been trying

00:19:03.119 --> 00:19:06.549
my best not to pay attention. Although it sounds

00:19:06.549 --> 00:19:09.269
like the Discord guys are going, so that's cool.

00:19:09.470 --> 00:19:12.849
Yeah, might. I might go to that one as well.

00:19:13.789 --> 00:19:19.029
We'll see how it plays out. Old Spice makes pomade.

00:19:19.029 --> 00:19:23.470
It must be making a comeback. Axe makes pomade

00:19:23.470 --> 00:19:28.470
too. Pomade sounds fucking terrible. Yeah, it's

00:19:28.470 --> 00:19:30.690
not a great name, but I used to use the Axe one

00:19:30.690 --> 00:19:35.099
when I had longer hair. No, I can't find the

00:19:35.099 --> 00:19:36.599
name. It's going to bug me. I'm going to have

00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.240
to text my ex to ask him what he put in his hair.

00:19:39.680 --> 00:19:44.059
It starts with a B. It's in a red can. It was

00:19:44.059 --> 00:19:47.200
only at Walmart, but it was only at certain Walmarts,

00:19:47.200 --> 00:19:49.559
and the city we lived in had three Walmarts,

00:19:49.559 --> 00:19:51.559
so we'd have to drive around to figure out which

00:19:51.559 --> 00:19:57.799
one had it in stock. It was fun. Sweet Georgia

00:19:57.799 --> 00:20:03.250
Brown? No, that's too American. Anyways, doesn't

00:20:03.250 --> 00:20:06.450
matter. I will let it go. Uh -uh. We're not letting

00:20:06.450 --> 00:20:12.390
this go. Tuxedo Club? Maybe. Is it red? Yes.

00:20:13.609 --> 00:20:18.930
Maybe, but I thought it started with a B. I do

00:20:18.930 --> 00:20:23.710
this all the time, though. There's that. That

00:20:23.710 --> 00:20:26.750
might be it, actually. Yeah. It has a very dapper

00:20:26.750 --> 00:20:30.930
-looking man on it. Yep. Yeah. That's probably

00:20:30.930 --> 00:20:35.470
it. But that's as far as I'm going to go in looking

00:20:35.470 --> 00:20:39.529
for it. I think that's close enough. That's probably

00:20:39.529 --> 00:20:42.230
the stuff. Anyways, it was fucking hilarious

00:20:42.230 --> 00:20:45.730
because people liked it, but they never ordered

00:20:45.730 --> 00:20:50.609
much of it. So we'd race the three other guys

00:20:50.609 --> 00:20:54.710
who buy it to figure out which store it was in

00:20:54.710 --> 00:20:59.069
that month. Why not order directly from the shop

00:20:59.069 --> 00:21:03.839
then? I don't know. Because I didn't think of

00:21:03.839 --> 00:21:06.700
that. You drive to Walmart and you get it. Yeah,

00:21:06.720 --> 00:21:09.779
I guess. It's also Walmart. A trip to Walmart

00:21:09.779 --> 00:21:11.859
is never wasted. You always come home with something.

00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:16.339
Oh, coming home with something. The Times Square

00:21:16.339 --> 00:21:20.079
card. I'm really going to try to fit this one

00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.779
in here. Coming home with all of the mental illnesses.

00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:28.220
Devin Haney versus Jose Ramirez. He's moving

00:21:28.220 --> 00:21:32.569
up to welterweight. So that's fun. Not surprising.

00:21:32.990 --> 00:21:35.609
Devin Haney's always shrunk down quite a bit.

00:21:35.910 --> 00:21:38.690
I don't think he's going to be able to do it,

00:21:38.730 --> 00:21:41.410
but fuck, I would love for Jose Ramirez to win

00:21:41.410 --> 00:21:44.930
that one. Yeah, so his particular mental illness

00:21:44.930 --> 00:21:51.210
is bitchitis, so that's fun. Ryan Garcia versus

00:21:51.210 --> 00:21:56.650
Raleigh Romero. What is that? Two egomaniacs?

00:21:58.690 --> 00:22:01.910
Yeah, Garcia's got multiple things going on,

00:22:01.950 --> 00:22:06.990
I think. But yeah. Ego being a big part of it.

00:22:07.150 --> 00:22:13.630
Narcissism. And Teofimo. Teofimo's just... That

00:22:13.630 --> 00:22:16.250
dude's bipolar and he's got fucking problems.

00:22:18.170 --> 00:22:21.289
He has been trying to be normal in interviews

00:22:21.289 --> 00:22:26.150
lately. And it makes it worse, almost. Because

00:22:26.150 --> 00:22:29.529
you can see he's trying so fucking hard, and

00:22:29.529 --> 00:22:32.410
at some point he always fails. And the crazy

00:22:32.410 --> 00:22:35.970
shows. And then sometimes he gets it back together,

00:22:36.069 --> 00:22:39.529
and sometimes they just end the interviews. Jesus.

00:22:40.589 --> 00:22:44.589
He was saying some shit like, I can't be a racist

00:22:44.589 --> 00:22:50.390
because everyone's racist. I mean, everyone is

00:22:50.390 --> 00:22:53.269
a little racist. Right. But that doesn't make

00:22:53.269 --> 00:22:58.150
you... Not racist. It does not take away... I

00:22:58.150 --> 00:23:03.170
don't know. Everybody has the thoughts. That's

00:23:03.170 --> 00:23:05.410
like saying I can't be dying because everybody's

00:23:05.410 --> 00:23:07.650
dying. Some people are dying more than others.

00:23:08.029 --> 00:23:12.109
Right, like in the Sylvia Plath, like, oh, everyone's

00:23:12.109 --> 00:23:16.250
a wilting flower kind of bullshit. The inevitable

00:23:16.250 --> 00:23:21.589
march of time. Yeah, but, like, I'm dying in

00:23:21.589 --> 00:23:23.849
30 years and you're dying next week. You're a

00:23:23.849 --> 00:23:27.150
little more dying than I am. Right. Tio's a little

00:23:27.150 --> 00:23:31.009
more racist than I am. And I'm more racist than

00:23:31.009 --> 00:23:35.509
most people, so. I don't know, is it worse when

00:23:35.509 --> 00:23:39.250
it's unintentional? Like, it's just, like, ingrained

00:23:39.250 --> 00:23:43.490
into you and you don't even mean to? I mean,

00:23:43.589 --> 00:23:47.829
I think, I don't know. I think Tio feels just

00:23:47.829 --> 00:23:51.849
a douchebag. Yeah, I think T .O. just has some

00:23:51.849 --> 00:23:55.009
problems. I'm hopeful that Arnold Barbosa would

00:23:55.009 --> 00:23:57.390
beat him, but it's similar to Jose Ramirez. It's

00:23:57.390 --> 00:24:00.670
probably not going to happen. No. And I would

00:24:00.670 --> 00:24:04.930
fucking love for Rawley to just knock Garcia

00:24:04.930 --> 00:24:10.769
out. How fucking funny would that be? For Rawley

00:24:10.769 --> 00:24:14.529
to beat Ryan Garcia? Not even just beat him.

00:24:14.589 --> 00:24:16.490
I want him to knock him the fuck out. Oh, embarrass

00:24:16.490 --> 00:24:22.569
him? Yeah. Oof. That would be something. That

00:24:22.569 --> 00:24:29.269
would be amazing. I would be so happy. Oh, that's

00:24:29.269 --> 00:24:31.130
it. I'm sure there's more shit on there, but

00:24:31.130 --> 00:24:36.109
that's the triple whatever. They had one press

00:24:36.109 --> 00:24:39.130
conference, and I didn't watch it because I assumed

00:24:39.130 --> 00:24:41.089
it would just be a lot of yelling and crazy,

00:24:41.309 --> 00:24:44.450
but people said it was more normal than they

00:24:44.450 --> 00:24:49.039
were expecting. Relatively tame. No, they haven't.

00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:52.480
The moderator was keeping a lid on things, I

00:24:52.480 --> 00:24:55.759
think. They also haven't started their cycles

00:24:55.759 --> 00:25:06.359
since they're not in camp yet. Fair. Bitch, how

00:25:06.359 --> 00:25:10.180
you do this? Yeah. Speaking of cycles, Dana White

00:25:10.180 --> 00:25:18.359
with his new shit. With Riyadh season and TKO

00:25:18.359 --> 00:25:22.740
Enterprises, this joint venture. Yeah, I haven't

00:25:22.740 --> 00:25:26.599
particularly been following up, but so Turkey's

00:25:26.599 --> 00:25:29.880
putting money in UFC now? No, he's putting money

00:25:29.880 --> 00:25:32.880
into a boxing venture that is going to be headed

00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:39.839
by UFC president Dana White. Ow. Yeah. Why? Right.

00:25:40.220 --> 00:25:42.779
That's the question on a lot of people's minds.

00:25:42.819 --> 00:25:48.319
Why are you doing this? I don't get it. I'm thinking

00:25:48.319 --> 00:25:53.319
they want more managerial control over the fighters.

00:25:54.740 --> 00:25:58.220
Fuck, that would be so bad for boxing. Yes. Turning

00:25:58.220 --> 00:26:02.619
into a one promotion league. Yeah, I'm not too

00:26:02.619 --> 00:26:07.359
keen on it either. Also, Dana White is a terrible

00:26:07.359 --> 00:26:11.460
human being. Yes. He's quite a piece of shit.

00:26:14.890 --> 00:26:20.170
Actually, ha -ha, shoehorning in. One of Josh's

00:26:20.170 --> 00:26:23.190
articles is actually about Dana White. Yeah,

00:26:23.430 --> 00:26:26.609
have you mentioned on the podcast that we're

00:26:26.609 --> 00:26:29.809
doing written stuff now? No, I have not. This

00:26:29.809 --> 00:26:35.329
is the debut. Yeah, the editing is kind of fun,

00:26:35.329 --> 00:26:38.170
actually. He's writing really short articles,

00:26:38.390 --> 00:26:41.690
like one to two pages, super fast. Yeah, that's

00:26:41.690 --> 00:26:45.329
kind of the... the level we need to keep it at

00:26:45.329 --> 00:26:51.630
the attention landscape is yeah not that great

00:26:51.630 --> 00:26:58.069
so fair but still I thought at first when I saw

00:26:58.069 --> 00:27:02.329
the name why not Dana White this is me encouraging

00:27:02.329 --> 00:27:05.049
you beloved listener to go read it because it's

00:27:05.049 --> 00:27:08.230
pretty pretty good and it sounds like oh why

00:27:08.230 --> 00:27:11.089
not why should why not allow Dana White to have

00:27:11.089 --> 00:27:16.500
a shot at the at Taming the beast that is. Boxing.

00:27:16.500 --> 00:27:21.680
But then it comes off as. Like. This is why not

00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:24.880
Dana White. Why not Dana White. Because he's

00:27:24.880 --> 00:27:30.440
a piece of fucking garbage. Not that. There aren't.

00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.599
Pieces of fucking garbage in boxing. Yeah. Let

00:27:34.599 --> 00:27:38.700
me quote him here. Which is why I encourage Dana

00:27:38.700 --> 00:27:42.519
White. For the moment. Entering the space. He's

00:27:42.519 --> 00:27:45.180
not subtle. He's all of the scummiest aspects

00:27:45.180 --> 00:27:49.400
of the sport rolled into one person. Into one

00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:56.140
visually displeasing person. I do like the not

00:27:56.140 --> 00:27:59.559
subtle jabs mixed in the article. It was fun.

00:28:00.039 --> 00:28:06.660
Man. I don't think people realize how good, only

00:28:06.660 --> 00:28:10.660
when you compare it to UFC, that we can say...

00:28:10.890 --> 00:28:14.569
Like, boxers have it really good. And I really

00:28:14.569 --> 00:28:17.150
doubt... Compared to UFC, for sure. I sincerely

00:28:17.150 --> 00:28:20.069
doubt they're going to want to give up a lot

00:28:20.069 --> 00:28:25.009
of their autonomy for what? For what exactly?

00:28:25.829 --> 00:28:29.849
Prestige? For getting fucked. Yeah, the prestige

00:28:29.849 --> 00:28:33.410
of getting fucked by Dana White instead of getting,

00:28:33.529 --> 00:28:36.849
like, lubricated finger -banged by your current

00:28:36.849 --> 00:28:44.119
promoter. There are a couple decent promoters

00:28:44.119 --> 00:28:50.099
as well. Shit, I'm drawing blanks on names again.

00:28:50.299 --> 00:28:53.180
Is it Al Heyman that seems like an actual decent

00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:56.099
human being? Yeah, he's more of a manager than

00:28:56.099 --> 00:29:00.700
a promoter, but same, same. I don't know much

00:29:00.700 --> 00:29:03.140
about the business side of boxing. I just like

00:29:03.140 --> 00:29:07.390
watching people punch each other. Samson? I've

00:29:07.390 --> 00:29:10.450
yet to hear of a Samson fighter that doesn't

00:29:10.450 --> 00:29:14.930
like him. Yeah. I mean, the really big ones,

00:29:15.049 --> 00:29:17.750
it's like anything else. If you're a decent human

00:29:17.750 --> 00:29:19.910
being, you are never going to be the richest

00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:23.750
person in your field. It's just a fact. If you

00:29:23.750 --> 00:29:26.269
are a decent human being, you're never going

00:29:26.269 --> 00:29:28.950
to be a billionaire because you will give away

00:29:28.950 --> 00:29:33.529
money when you need no more money or stop fucking

00:29:33.529 --> 00:29:36.049
people for every dime if you're a decent human

00:29:36.049 --> 00:29:38.309
being. Yeah, you're not going to cut anyone's

00:29:38.309 --> 00:29:40.250
throat to advance. You're not going to step on

00:29:40.250 --> 00:29:43.869
people to climb higher. Yeah, and if you have

00:29:43.869 --> 00:29:48.130
$50 million that keep bringing in income because

00:29:48.130 --> 00:29:51.809
that's how money works, you don't need any more

00:29:51.809 --> 00:29:55.890
money. Yep. I have more money than I can spend.

00:29:56.009 --> 00:30:00.769
I'm happy. Maybe I could pay my workers more

00:30:00.769 --> 00:30:04.410
than a livable wage and a decent wage. Right.

00:30:06.049 --> 00:30:08.890
Or you're Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk and you're

00:30:08.890 --> 00:30:10.869
a terrible fucking human being and you don't

00:30:10.869 --> 00:30:15.990
care. Yeah. You have five minutes of break time.

00:30:16.049 --> 00:30:18.049
You get to decide if you're going to the bathroom

00:30:18.049 --> 00:30:20.589
or you're going to eat. Your shift is 12 hours

00:30:20.589 --> 00:30:25.170
long. Good luck. Yeah. I saw a Ragebait article

00:30:25.170 --> 00:30:28.289
about... How did they word it? Because it was

00:30:28.289 --> 00:30:32.710
the stupidest shit I've ever heard. Ethically

00:30:32.710 --> 00:30:37.400
encompassing or something. one of those dumb

00:30:37.400 --> 00:30:41.779
phrases toilets and they're the squatty potties

00:30:41.779 --> 00:30:44.319
like you find them sometimes here in japan where

00:30:44.319 --> 00:30:48.920
it's just in the floor and you squat right and

00:30:48.920 --> 00:30:52.019
people were outraged that they were doing all

00:30:52.019 --> 00:30:54.619
this stuff to make immigrants that work at amazon

00:30:54.619 --> 00:30:56.740
feel better i was like guys it's so you can't

00:30:56.740 --> 00:31:01.019
sit right like you can't sit on the toilet and

00:31:01.019 --> 00:31:05.220
relax for two minutes while I guess for women,

00:31:05.299 --> 00:31:08.880
it wouldn't work for men anyways, but you can't

00:31:08.880 --> 00:31:10.680
sit and relax for two minutes while you take

00:31:10.680 --> 00:31:14.660
a piss. That's the whole point of those toilets.

00:31:14.759 --> 00:31:17.920
It's not to make people from India or Japan or

00:31:17.920 --> 00:31:21.500
anywhere else feel at home. It's so you can't

00:31:21.500 --> 00:31:26.619
waste time by peeing. Yeah. It's fucking stupid.

00:31:26.859 --> 00:31:30.339
You walk in, do your business, and get out. Yeah.

00:31:31.769 --> 00:31:34.849
so name to be determined of this venture i had

00:31:34.849 --> 00:31:38.849
uh in in discord i had mentioned why not call

00:31:38.849 --> 00:31:42.230
it whiplash boxing and it's not because it's

00:31:42.230 --> 00:31:47.630
high octane uh thunder yeah entertainment it's

00:31:47.630 --> 00:31:50.410
because you're you're gonna be a slave driver

00:31:50.410 --> 00:31:54.609
with these whatever poor kids you entice into

00:31:54.609 --> 00:31:57.289
signing on to this because you're gonna have

00:31:57.289 --> 00:31:59.029
to start from the bottom up you're not gonna

00:31:59.029 --> 00:32:04.990
sign names to your To your promotion here. Yeah,

00:32:05.109 --> 00:32:09.390
I don't know. Do not let Dana White into boxing.

00:32:10.109 --> 00:32:15.190
Fucking ridiculous. Do not allow Dana White into

00:32:15.190 --> 00:32:19.690
living. I mean, we already did that. I know.

00:32:19.910 --> 00:32:25.769
We can chivvy him out. That would be nice. Great.

00:32:26.569 --> 00:32:29.670
Another interesting sort of format that came

00:32:29.670 --> 00:32:32.009
up, the WBC Grand Prix. Have you heard of this

00:32:32.009 --> 00:32:41.829
one? No. So, four divisions. It's 126, 140, 160.

00:32:42.390 --> 00:32:48.250
I typoed there. And heavyweights. It's 32 athletes

00:32:48.250 --> 00:32:54.779
per division. Okay. At least they have one interesting

00:32:54.779 --> 00:33:00.640
weight class in there. 126? Yeah, well, 140 is

00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.160
kind of in the bin right now, isn't it? Who's

00:33:03.160 --> 00:33:07.880
that 140 that's... Or is that Garcia and all

00:33:07.880 --> 00:33:10.460
those guys? They're 147, aren't they? No, they're

00:33:10.460 --> 00:33:13.700
not. Brian Garcia is not going to fucking make

00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:17.619
140. He hasn't made 140 in five years. Let's

00:33:17.619 --> 00:33:22.440
see. Let's check, because... You're probably

00:33:22.440 --> 00:33:25.180
right. And I just assumed he was going to be

00:33:25.180 --> 00:33:29.480
at 140 because Raleigh's at 140. I got to look

00:33:29.480 --> 00:33:36.920
up who's actually at 140. I'm so bad at keeping

00:33:36.920 --> 00:33:43.859
track of the weight classes. Last time, when

00:33:43.859 --> 00:33:48.180
we recorded a few days ago, BoxRec was in the

00:33:48.180 --> 00:33:51.839
middle of maintenance at the time. So looking

00:33:51.839 --> 00:33:54.279
stuff up was proved to be a little challenging.

00:33:54.799 --> 00:34:00.279
Ah, yeah. So Tapology has their rankings here.

00:34:00.839 --> 00:34:04.960
Yeah, Tapology is a good alternative. Tiafimo,

00:34:05.299 --> 00:34:08.940
Jack Catterall, Richardson Hitchens, Liam Paro,

00:34:09.159 --> 00:34:16.559
Matias, Jaime? Jaime? Ortiz? Jemaine? I don't

00:34:16.559 --> 00:34:20.039
think I even... Is it Jemaine? Yeah. I just assumed

00:34:20.039 --> 00:34:23.440
he was... Mexican. With Ortiz. Yeah, I can see

00:34:23.440 --> 00:34:27.320
why, but he's from New York somewhere. Fair enough.

00:34:27.519 --> 00:34:30.000
I mean, I cannot say anything about names like

00:34:30.000 --> 00:34:35.960
that. My name's like that. Regis Progray. No

00:34:35.960 --> 00:34:39.340
mention of Arnold Barbosa. Is he not listed?

00:34:39.579 --> 00:34:44.840
Barbosa's nine. What? Haney's listed as 12. They

00:34:44.840 --> 00:34:48.260
got Sandor Martin above him. Well, Sandor Martin

00:34:48.260 --> 00:34:52.659
should be... fucking champion right now. Yeah,

00:34:52.719 --> 00:34:58.880
they fucked my boy again. They did. I was upset.

00:34:58.980 --> 00:35:00.840
I actually haven't watched the full fight. I

00:35:00.840 --> 00:35:03.679
just watched highlights, but it really looked

00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.139
like he won that fight in the highlights. Even

00:35:06.139 --> 00:35:08.179
though the highlights were designed to make it

00:35:08.179 --> 00:35:13.619
look like he didn't. He did better than the highlights

00:35:13.619 --> 00:35:17.760
would suggest, obviously. Pueyo wasn't terrible.

00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.980
It was just like a really slow start. Think same

00:35:22.980 --> 00:35:27.300
way like Teofimo versus Lomachenko. Or Teofimo

00:35:27.300 --> 00:35:32.159
versus Sandor Martin. Because I think Martin

00:35:32.159 --> 00:35:35.079
won that one too. It was just a matter of like

00:35:35.079 --> 00:35:37.199
once Pueyo got going, he started doing really

00:35:37.199 --> 00:35:40.519
well. And that was kind of it. So it was just

00:35:40.519 --> 00:35:43.880
a matter of like two halves. But I had it like

00:35:43.880 --> 00:35:50.409
a 7 -5 situation for Martin. Fair. I don't know.

00:35:50.510 --> 00:35:53.610
I just... They're never gonna let him win. And

00:35:53.610 --> 00:35:56.030
he doesn't have knockout power. So he's kind

00:35:56.030 --> 00:36:00.250
of fucked, I think. Which is not how it should

00:36:00.250 --> 00:36:06.250
be, but... Yeah. Shouldn't be. God. I have a

00:36:06.250 --> 00:36:09.329
foster and she likes to hang out on my footrest.

00:36:12.429 --> 00:36:18.000
That... Cat. This time, right? Yes. Yeah. Does

00:36:18.000 --> 00:36:20.579
she attack your feet? No, she doesn't. She's

00:36:20.579 --> 00:36:24.119
a little sweetheart. That's good. She likes getting

00:36:24.119 --> 00:36:28.519
in the way. Back to the Grand Prix. So, Ryan

00:36:28.519 --> 00:36:33.719
Garcia has not made 140 pounds since he fought

00:36:33.719 --> 00:36:37.820
Tank Davis, which was at 135, and he still missed

00:36:37.820 --> 00:36:45.539
weight there. And that was in 2023. Has it been

00:36:45.539 --> 00:36:49.809
that long? yes oh my god april what's the fourth

00:36:49.809 --> 00:36:55.610
month april 2023 so he's fought twice at 140

00:36:55.610 --> 00:36:59.349
since then and he was 143 and 143 and a half

00:36:59.349 --> 00:37:06.349
that i mean if we want to get technical 140 .1

00:37:06.349 --> 00:37:11.650
is welterweight that's the beginning yeah so

00:37:11.650 --> 00:37:15.340
i'm just saying Fucking Ryan Garcia hasn't fought

00:37:15.340 --> 00:37:20.739
at 140 for years. Yeah, I'm on BoxRec, and I

00:37:20.739 --> 00:37:25.039
don't see where they're saying what weight the

00:37:25.039 --> 00:37:31.380
fight is at. I'm on El Paso Times. And they say

00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:35.079
140? Yes. Yeah, okay. That doesn't surprise me.

00:37:35.099 --> 00:37:37.960
He's going to blow weight again. Fucking piece

00:37:37.960 --> 00:37:43.400
of crap. Right, back to the Grand Prix. It's

00:37:43.400 --> 00:37:46.059
a cool idea. It is. I like it. I think this is

00:37:46.059 --> 00:37:48.239
a good way you're going to... The same way like

00:37:48.239 --> 00:37:52.179
Overtime or any other tournament format works

00:37:52.179 --> 00:37:55.360
where the winner is going to get projected into

00:37:55.360 --> 00:37:58.800
something bigger. And you can kind of recycle

00:37:58.800 --> 00:38:04.380
the third place and below guys. Yeah. And just

00:38:04.380 --> 00:38:08.360
keep doing it. Like the Super Series that happened

00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:14.340
a long time ago. Yeah, that's when Inouye unified

00:38:14.340 --> 00:38:17.559
the first time, right? Was a super series? He

00:38:17.559 --> 00:38:20.659
fought Donair. He had all of them but one, and

00:38:20.659 --> 00:38:25.039
he fought Paul Butler outside of the tournament.

00:38:25.079 --> 00:38:28.840
Okay, yeah. But he got those other ones in the

00:38:28.840 --> 00:38:33.179
tournament, right? Yes. So 41 different nations.

00:38:33.179 --> 00:38:35.960
41 nations. That's pretty cool. That is very

00:38:35.960 --> 00:38:39.550
cool. I like it. And then, so it's going to be

00:38:39.550 --> 00:38:46.969
five cards, 128 fighters. Man, that's, what,

00:38:47.030 --> 00:38:56.010
64 fights total across five cards? 32 athletes

00:38:56.010 --> 00:39:01.989
in four divisions would be 64 fights. Yeah. Yeah.

00:39:02.050 --> 00:39:09.909
Across five events. Would be... 12? Yeah. And

00:39:09.909 --> 00:39:14.389
a few extras. That's crazy. That's a lot of fight.

00:39:15.269 --> 00:39:18.409
Yeah, but depending on the level, they might

00:39:18.409 --> 00:39:21.610
not be all 12 round fights. Some of them might

00:39:21.610 --> 00:39:27.429
be 10s, 8s. Still. Yeah. Just 12 fights of any

00:39:27.429 --> 00:39:30.809
kind on one card is a lot. It is, yeah. I've

00:39:30.809 --> 00:39:33.070
been to some like that with local promotions.

00:39:33.670 --> 00:39:36.670
They tend to have just a ton of four -rounders.

00:39:37.710 --> 00:39:41.150
yeah i was gonna say like the four round ones

00:39:41.150 --> 00:39:43.809
but none of these will be four rounds i don't

00:39:43.809 --> 00:39:48.730
think that's too short maybe the first uh the

00:39:48.730 --> 00:39:51.230
first round of the tournament is the four is

00:39:51.230 --> 00:39:54.130
four rounders and then they move to six and then

00:39:54.130 --> 00:39:56.889
move to eight and then then they would have half

00:39:56.889 --> 00:39:59.510
as many fight yeah that that would make sense

00:39:59.510 --> 00:40:03.510
i'm sure they planned this yeah they they haven't

00:40:03.510 --> 00:40:06.590
figured out but you can still hit me up uh suleiman

00:40:06.590 --> 00:40:11.750
i'll hook you up i used to design the the curling

00:40:11.750 --> 00:40:15.190
tournament brackets for the local tournaments

00:40:15.190 --> 00:40:19.449
and uh we did double knockouts and man sometimes

00:40:19.449 --> 00:40:22.150
those double knockouts with odd numbers of teams

00:40:22.150 --> 00:40:25.429
just get so complicated that doesn't sound very

00:40:25.429 --> 00:40:31.829
fun at all i mean i cheated and used uh like

00:40:31.829 --> 00:40:35.349
templates and stuff, but it would still take

00:40:35.349 --> 00:40:39.789
some time. Did you know that the baseball schedule

00:40:39.789 --> 00:40:45.949
for like decades was hand done by a couple, like

00:40:45.949 --> 00:40:48.610
a husband and wife somewhere in the States would

00:40:48.610 --> 00:40:51.090
just sit down and figure out. And those guys

00:40:51.090 --> 00:40:54.849
play so many fucking games. I think triple digits

00:40:54.849 --> 00:41:00.030
of games. Oh. Yeah, it's like, what is a baseball

00:41:00.030 --> 00:41:03.510
season? Like, 118 games or something crazy? Yeah.

00:41:03.889 --> 00:41:07.190
And there's... Ah, the baseball guys are going

00:41:07.190 --> 00:41:10.429
to hate me. I think it's 36 teams? I don't know.

00:41:10.429 --> 00:41:14.289
Like, that's crazy to sit down and, oh, well,

00:41:14.329 --> 00:41:16.610
these guys... But it is baseball, so you can

00:41:16.610 --> 00:41:18.889
have multiple games in a day and stuff, but still.

00:41:20.889 --> 00:41:24.050
And a lot of them are series. Like, they'll play

00:41:24.050 --> 00:41:29.309
three or four game series. Yeah. But like, oh,

00:41:29.329 --> 00:41:32.789
I'm flying to Toronto and doing a triple header,

00:41:32.969 --> 00:41:35.730
so then we need at least five days off before

00:41:35.730 --> 00:41:42.250
we fly back to Florida. Ew. I was just picking

00:41:42.250 --> 00:41:51.050
places as far away as I could think. Jade Jones.

00:41:52.230 --> 00:41:55.630
I don't know who that is. It's a British taekwondo

00:41:55.630 --> 00:42:01.789
gold medalist. It's crossing into boxing. Taekwondo?

00:42:02.050 --> 00:42:04.510
That's a weird one to come into boxing, isn't

00:42:04.510 --> 00:42:09.389
it? Yeah, because it's all kicks. Yeah, Taekwondo

00:42:09.389 --> 00:42:12.110
doesn't throw that many punches. No, they avoid

00:42:12.110 --> 00:42:19.530
throwing punches. Interesting. Why wouldn't you

00:42:19.530 --> 00:42:23.050
go into mixed martial arts? That's what I would

00:42:23.050 --> 00:42:26.480
do. The women make good money there. The men

00:42:26.480 --> 00:42:28.760
get hosed, but the women probably make pretty...

00:42:28.760 --> 00:42:32.880
maybe more than boxing. Clarissa Shields fights

00:42:32.880 --> 00:42:39.519
in MMA for that exact reason. Yeah. Hmm. That'll

00:42:39.519 --> 00:42:42.739
be interesting. Yeah, I'm interested to see how

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:45.519
she does. She's been in... Taekwondo footwork

00:42:45.519 --> 00:42:48.579
is really different, isn't it? Like, even among

00:42:48.579 --> 00:42:52.659
martial arts, their footwork is distinct. I'm

00:42:52.659 --> 00:42:55.469
thinking... That she's going to dominate the

00:42:55.469 --> 00:42:58.969
pro ranks the same way that Tenshin Nasukawa

00:42:58.969 --> 00:43:06.329
is going to dominate Japan. Maloney had him hurt.

00:43:06.550 --> 00:43:09.670
He did. If Maloney had any fucking power, Tenshin

00:43:09.670 --> 00:43:15.769
was out. Yeah. I still love that Maloney had

00:43:15.769 --> 00:43:17.829
his little Japanese cheering section that was

00:43:17.829 --> 00:43:20.530
trying to yell in English. They were so cute.

00:43:21.099 --> 00:43:26.019
What kind of things were they yelling? So I think

00:43:26.019 --> 00:43:29.659
it was people who have actually met him. So some

00:43:29.659 --> 00:43:34.159
of it, I think, was, like, inside jokes. Not

00:43:34.159 --> 00:43:37.320
jokes, but, like, phrases that didn't really

00:43:37.320 --> 00:43:39.099
make sense in English that they must have used

00:43:39.099 --> 00:43:45.780
in training camp. Oh. Japonglish? Nihonglish?

00:43:46.570 --> 00:43:49.949
They were all English words, but the order was

00:43:49.949 --> 00:43:53.889
wrong. That sort of thing. And a lot of nice,

00:43:53.889 --> 00:43:59.929
nice body. Nice body, Jason. Is that for a body

00:43:59.929 --> 00:44:03.809
punch? Yeah, yeah. When somebody lands a body

00:44:03.809 --> 00:44:06.590
punch in Japan, you just get this like chorus

00:44:06.590 --> 00:44:10.989
of nice body. I'm sure at this point. And it

00:44:10.989 --> 00:44:13.730
makes me giggle every time. they do not know

00:44:13.730 --> 00:44:16.710
they don't i have laughed no i have laughed and

00:44:16.710 --> 00:44:18.789
a couple times i've sat beside people who were

00:44:18.789 --> 00:44:21.969
friendly enough to talk to me the one guy was

00:44:21.969 --> 00:44:24.550
like what's funny and i was like it sounds like

00:44:24.550 --> 00:44:26.889
they're saying he's very handsome like he has

00:44:26.889 --> 00:44:31.989
a nice body he's very sexy yeah and the guy's

00:44:31.989 --> 00:44:34.989
like no i was like in english you would say body

00:44:34.989 --> 00:44:39.409
punch yeah or shots or something but nice body

00:44:39.409 --> 00:44:42.800
it just sounds like you're you know complimenting

00:44:42.800 --> 00:44:48.360
his abs i'm thinking they call like this happens

00:44:48.360 --> 00:44:50.820
in spanish too where they just call uppercuts

00:44:50.820 --> 00:44:53.820
they just call them uppers yeah japan does that

00:44:53.820 --> 00:44:56.920
too so i'm thinking that rather than say body

00:44:56.920 --> 00:44:59.659
shot all the way out they just like oh it's a

00:44:59.659 --> 00:45:03.360
body yeah yeah yeah yeah and that's what it is

00:45:03.360 --> 00:45:05.820
and it makes sense but it still sounds funny

00:45:05.820 --> 00:45:07.920
when you get like a bunch of old men yelling

00:45:07.920 --> 00:45:14.969
nice body To an Australian man? Exactly. In their

00:45:14.969 --> 00:45:21.949
very thick Japanese accent. Nice buddy. Exactly.

00:45:22.269 --> 00:45:28.369
Yeah, that's great. That was all that I had.

00:45:28.369 --> 00:45:32.329
Oh, I have something. Oh, go ahead. So I did

00:45:32.329 --> 00:45:37.150
manage to get a ticket to see Kiyoguchi. So my

00:45:37.150 --> 00:45:40.309
very random list of five fighters I wanted to

00:45:40.309 --> 00:45:42.650
see when I came to Japan will be finished on

00:45:42.650 --> 00:45:48.090
March 13th. It was Inoue and Nakatani, of course.

00:45:48.090 --> 00:45:53.650
And then the other three were my own random likes.

00:45:53.869 --> 00:46:00.070
So I saw Kenichi Ogawa, I saw Ioka, and Kiyoguchi

00:46:00.070 --> 00:46:06.369
was the last one on the list. And just the one

00:46:06.369 --> 00:46:11.690
missing, though. How many times have you seen

00:46:11.690 --> 00:46:19.809
the legend himself? Tension? Yeah. Like three,

00:46:20.030 --> 00:46:23.150
something like that. You are a bigger fan than

00:46:23.150 --> 00:46:26.289
you care to admit. No, he just fights on other

00:46:26.289 --> 00:46:29.789
people's cards. He fights on the Nakatani cards

00:46:29.789 --> 00:46:34.690
almost every time. Because I've seen Nakatani

00:46:34.690 --> 00:46:38.829
three times now. Oh, okay. Two of those were

00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:42.570
really fast knockouts. Yeah, super fast. Like

00:46:42.570 --> 00:46:47.110
the Astrolavio knockout was, why did I come here?

00:46:47.630 --> 00:46:51.210
Why did I pay for this? Yeah. Could have at least

00:46:51.210 --> 00:46:56.570
been at the boxing bar. Yeah, well, oh, I haven't

00:46:56.570 --> 00:46:59.289
told that story on here yet. So I usually buy

00:46:59.289 --> 00:47:02.070
from that website where you basically just...

00:47:02.400 --> 00:47:05.639
Bank transfer money to the fighter directly and

00:47:05.639 --> 00:47:10.699
they mail you a ticket. But Kiyoguchi is based

00:47:10.699 --> 00:47:16.079
in Osaka, I want to say. Yokohama? Or he's based

00:47:16.079 --> 00:47:20.539
in Osaka, okay. Yeah. His cutoff was really early

00:47:20.539 --> 00:47:24.820
because he's worried about mail times. So there

00:47:24.820 --> 00:47:28.019
was somebody fighting who is based in Tokyo who

00:47:28.019 --> 00:47:34.070
I think the cutoff was the 5th? and i didn't

00:47:34.070 --> 00:47:36.730
try and buy tickets until the 6th i missed it

00:47:36.730 --> 00:47:39.909
by a day whatever day the cutoff was and then

00:47:39.909 --> 00:47:43.949
i still can't find i think i figured it out now

00:47:43.949 --> 00:47:47.150
but i can't find fucking tickets because if you

00:47:47.150 --> 00:47:50.190
google their name and ticket nothing comes up

00:47:50.190 --> 00:47:54.889
so i got in the chat with the the old men at

00:47:54.889 --> 00:47:57.429
the bar and i was like guys i fucked up i can't

00:47:57.429 --> 00:48:00.250
find tickets to buy and the one guy was like

00:48:00.250 --> 00:48:05.170
oh well You can just buy them on this other website.

00:48:05.809 --> 00:48:09.349
And there's one guy is actually a boxing promoter.

00:48:09.349 --> 00:48:11.590
And he goes, I'll get you tickets. He's like,

00:48:11.690 --> 00:48:15.030
what tickets do you want? Just let me know. And

00:48:15.030 --> 00:48:17.090
you can bank transfer me the money. And I was

00:48:17.090 --> 00:48:20.630
like, yeah, that works. That's easy. So I'm pretty

00:48:20.630 --> 00:48:24.010
sure he just went to the place they're fighting,

00:48:24.170 --> 00:48:26.869
the arena, and bought me tickets and mailed them

00:48:26.869 --> 00:48:32.849
to me. Should be here tomorrow or the next day.

00:48:36.110 --> 00:48:38.230
That's cool, though. Yeah. To have that little

00:48:38.230 --> 00:48:49.889
niche community. Yeah. His name is Kenta Kaneko.

00:48:51.230 --> 00:48:53.409
Because he has the same last name as one of the

00:48:53.409 --> 00:48:55.969
people I work with. Kaneko, I don't think, is

00:48:55.969 --> 00:48:59.239
that common. Or I've only met... yeah i've only

00:48:59.239 --> 00:49:01.099
met the one so i asked her if they were related

00:49:01.099 --> 00:49:03.960
and she basically called me racist i was like

00:49:03.960 --> 00:49:06.219
you guys live in the same city and you have the

00:49:06.219 --> 00:49:10.880
same last name and it's not a common one i didn't

00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:12.480
think it was and she's like there's millions

00:49:12.480 --> 00:49:14.460
of us and i was like yeah i know but you live

00:49:14.460 --> 00:49:19.280
in the same city i've been using trying to learn

00:49:19.280 --> 00:49:22.659
how to use ai a little better make it more how

00:49:22.659 --> 00:49:26.679
to complement my life i guess so i typed in just

00:49:26.679 --> 00:49:29.460
now Who are the current top 10 pound -for -pound

00:49:29.460 --> 00:49:34.320
boxers into Google Gemini? Okay. So here's what

00:49:34.320 --> 00:49:41.000
they came up with. Number 10, Devin Haney. No.

00:49:41.300 --> 00:49:46.019
Wrong. Wrong. I know. Number 9, Junto Nakatani.

00:49:46.260 --> 00:49:50.719
That low. I know. But it gets better as it moves

00:49:50.719 --> 00:49:54.900
up, I think. Junto Nakatani's blurb, a very skilled

00:49:54.900 --> 00:49:59.590
boxer that continues to impress. Number eight,

00:49:59.670 --> 00:50:04.510
and this is wrong as well, Gervonta Davis. Yep.

00:50:04.670 --> 00:50:10.030
No. He just got beat. Right. He just lost. Number

00:50:10.030 --> 00:50:14.289
seven, Canelo Alvarez. Actually, I'm okay with

00:50:14.289 --> 00:50:18.349
that one. I don't think Canelo would be in my

00:50:18.349 --> 00:50:23.010
top ten anymore, though. Not top five at this

00:50:23.010 --> 00:50:28.280
point. At the very least, not in top fives. Yeah.

00:50:28.980 --> 00:50:31.280
Long -standing presence in the top rankings,

00:50:31.440 --> 00:50:35.619
known for his skill and popularity. Known for

00:50:35.619 --> 00:50:40.719
being a fucking ginger. Yeah. Number six, Jesse

00:50:40.719 --> 00:50:45.380
Rodriguez. Really? Yeah. A very talented younger

00:50:45.380 --> 00:50:49.800
boxer who has been very impressive. He has been.

00:50:49.980 --> 00:50:54.730
Yeah. Number five, Artur Beterbiev. A very powerful

00:50:54.730 --> 00:50:57.010
puncher and a force to be reckoned with in the

00:50:57.010 --> 00:50:59.789
light heavyweight division. I'd have Jesse above

00:50:59.789 --> 00:51:04.809
him. For sure. Like, Better BF is definitely

00:51:04.809 --> 00:51:07.050
really good, but I don't know if I'd put him

00:51:07.050 --> 00:51:11.010
on a pound -for -pound list. If you shrunk him

00:51:11.010 --> 00:51:14.469
down and took away his power, I don't think he

00:51:14.469 --> 00:51:16.750
would be that good. If you scaled him down to

00:51:16.750 --> 00:51:20.829
Bam's size, I think Bam beats him. Yeah, that's

00:51:20.829 --> 00:51:23.269
what I mean. Jujutsu Nakatani beats him. People

00:51:23.269 --> 00:51:25.010
always do it the other way. They always make

00:51:25.010 --> 00:51:27.949
the small guys bigger, but if you make the big

00:51:27.949 --> 00:51:34.670
guys smaller, I think it's more of a test in

00:51:34.670 --> 00:51:38.489
my imaginary pound for pound. Bigger guys tend

00:51:38.489 --> 00:51:43.710
to rely on their power a lot more. Yeah. I mean,

00:51:43.710 --> 00:51:49.170
Junto has power, but... He's also a freak of

00:51:49.170 --> 00:51:52.369
nature. He's so tall. Yeah, he's very tall for

00:51:52.369 --> 00:51:57.110
where he fights. After number four, Dimitri Bevel.

00:51:57.409 --> 00:52:00.110
His skill and wins in the light heavyweight division

00:52:00.110 --> 00:52:06.210
have caused his rank to rise. All right. I will

00:52:06.210 --> 00:52:11.050
take it. Number three, Terrence Crawford. Crawford's

00:52:11.050 --> 00:52:13.789
skill and dominance in his weight divisions keeps

00:52:13.789 --> 00:52:18.519
him high on the list. Right now, I'd have Beeble

00:52:18.519 --> 00:52:22.239
above Terrence Crawford. Yeah. Crawford just

00:52:22.239 --> 00:52:25.079
doesn't fight very often. Exactly. Part of my

00:52:25.079 --> 00:52:29.019
problem. And now that he's fighting in weight

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:33.179
classes that don't suit him, he's not... He's

00:52:33.179 --> 00:52:35.559
beatable looking. I mean, he hasn't been beat,

00:52:35.639 --> 00:52:38.920
but he looks like he could be. I would also argue

00:52:38.920 --> 00:52:43.380
that... What's his name? Did beat Crawford. Oh,

00:52:43.480 --> 00:52:49.269
Madrimov? Yeah. Arguable. And number two and

00:52:49.269 --> 00:52:52.369
number one. You can probably guess which they

00:52:52.369 --> 00:52:56.369
are, but which order? They'll have Usyk number

00:52:56.369 --> 00:53:00.110
one and Inoue number two. That's correct. Inoue,

00:53:00.190 --> 00:53:03.690
the monster continues to dominate with his power

00:53:03.690 --> 00:53:07.469
and skill across multiple weight classes. Yeah,

00:53:08.349 --> 00:53:13.000
number two is like at the minimum. Yeah, I'm

00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:16.619
okay with people putting Usyk above Italy, honestly.

00:53:18.019 --> 00:53:21.940
A long time ago, a friend of mine had an interesting

00:53:21.940 --> 00:53:26.079
criterion for pound -for -pound list, which is

00:53:26.079 --> 00:53:31.500
the idea of a pound -for -pound list is how would

00:53:31.500 --> 00:53:33.699
the smaller guys compare to the heavyweights,

00:53:33.820 --> 00:53:36.699
like you had mentioned about moving guys up.

00:53:36.920 --> 00:53:39.800
So he never included heavyweights because...

00:53:41.369 --> 00:53:46.630
Yeah, but is Usyk a heavyweight? He's a bridger.

00:53:48.550 --> 00:53:52.570
Well, I just mean, like, he went up into heavyweight,

00:53:52.690 --> 00:53:55.849
but he really is a cruiserweight. Yeah. And he

00:53:55.849 --> 00:53:58.289
is the only person who's fighting people that

00:53:58.289 --> 00:54:01.530
much bigger than him and winning. True. Like,

00:54:01.530 --> 00:54:04.550
as much as I love Inoue, if you put him up against

00:54:04.550 --> 00:54:06.650
somebody who's 40 pounds bigger than him and

00:54:06.650 --> 00:54:09.570
at the top of their division, he's probably not

00:54:09.570 --> 00:54:14.250
going to win. For him, that would be middleweights

00:54:14.250 --> 00:54:17.349
right now. So what, fighting Johnny Beck? Yeah,

00:54:17.369 --> 00:54:22.469
he can maybe beat Johnny Beck. And one more AI

00:54:22.469 --> 00:54:29.309
list. Who are the top five Japanese boxers right

00:54:29.309 --> 00:54:34.369
now? Oh, they're going to fuck this up. They

00:54:34.369 --> 00:54:36.730
gave me six. But they're going to fuck this up.

00:54:36.929 --> 00:54:40.929
It's not an order. Okay. I don't think so anyway.

00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.219
It's not numbered. Inoue and Nakatani need to

00:54:44.219 --> 00:54:47.420
be on the list, of course. They are. So, from

00:54:47.420 --> 00:54:53.599
the bottom up. Kosei Tanaka. Okay. Takuma Inoue.

00:54:54.500 --> 00:55:00.260
Kazuto Ioka. Yeah, maybe. Kazuto, that's a good

00:55:00.260 --> 00:55:04.780
pick. I don't know if he's top five still, though.

00:55:04.860 --> 00:55:09.119
No. Really. Like, being honest. Taraji? Yeah,

00:55:09.260 --> 00:55:12.659
then Taraji. It's not bad. He's been winning.

00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:17.679
It's not terrible, but it's missing the people

00:55:17.679 --> 00:55:20.420
that they don't put in articles, because of course

00:55:20.420 --> 00:55:24.880
it is. Yeah, Tsutsumi's missing, for sure. You

00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:27.699
could even just tangentially mention honorable

00:55:27.699 --> 00:55:33.579
mentions of Ryosuke Nishida and Yoshiki Takei.

00:55:34.460 --> 00:55:39.880
Those are... Yeah, they... Top five is a hard

00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:43.820
one, but I wouldn't put Ioka in the top five

00:55:43.820 --> 00:55:49.360
anymore. Top five in my heart, but... Number

00:55:49.360 --> 00:55:53.139
two and number one are Nakatani and Inoue. Yeah.

00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:57.780
As one would expect. I suspect that that AI strictly

00:55:57.780 --> 00:56:01.539
went on article hits. Yeah, that's how they're

00:56:01.539 --> 00:56:05.760
trained. Yeah. Like, Ioka's in more articles

00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:09.239
than Tsutsumi for sure. But right now, Tsutsumi

00:56:09.239 --> 00:56:14.980
is definitely the better boxer. Right. Actually,

00:56:15.019 --> 00:56:19.139
I changed the prompt to top 10 and it cut it

00:56:19.139 --> 00:56:24.260
down to four. Why? I don't know. Here's the reasoning.

00:56:24.539 --> 00:56:27.260
It's tricky to give a definitive top 10 because

00:56:27.260 --> 00:56:30.619
rankings shift and top can mean different things

00:56:30.619 --> 00:56:33.760
like pound for pound skill, current title holders,

00:56:34.079 --> 00:56:38.059
etc. So I can highlight some of the most prominent

00:56:38.059 --> 00:56:41.360
and highly regarded Japanese boxers currently.

00:56:42.239 --> 00:56:45.139
So a top five list gives you six and a top 10

00:56:45.139 --> 00:56:48.579
list gives you four. Yes. Makes a lot of sense.

00:56:48.780 --> 00:56:53.440
Excellent. Excellent. And so Kosei Tanaka, Junto

00:56:53.440 --> 00:56:59.199
Nakatani, Kazuto Ioka, and Naoya Inoue. As one

00:56:59.199 --> 00:57:01.880
would expect. That must just be article hits.

00:57:01.940 --> 00:57:09.650
It is. It even gave me its top sources. ESPN,

00:57:09.969 --> 00:57:16.530
Boxing News Online, and Ring Magazine. Right.

00:57:16.869 --> 00:57:19.489
Well, Anioka would have a ton of articles because

00:57:19.489 --> 00:57:22.489
of his cancellation in his last fight. Yeah.

00:57:24.269 --> 00:57:29.449
Double heartbreak. That was so sad. Yeah, absolutely.

00:57:32.329 --> 00:57:40.369
Well, we are at an hour. Nice. Yeah. I'm going

00:57:40.369 --> 00:57:45.050
to ask. How are you going to give me six names

00:57:45.050 --> 00:57:50.769
for top five prompts, but only four for top ten?

00:57:53.429 --> 00:57:58.650
I hate the AI shit. It drives me nuts. It apologized

00:57:58.650 --> 00:58:06.789
and gave me more names. It does that a lot. Especially

00:58:06.789 --> 00:58:12.170
if you ask it opinion questions. Improved list.

00:58:12.429 --> 00:58:16.750
So this is ranked. No, it's not ranked. Never

00:58:16.750 --> 00:58:30.329
mind. I don't even know who that is. Riku Kano.

00:58:33.030 --> 00:58:37.130
Ginjiro Shigeoka. Shigeoka I've heard of, at

00:58:37.130 --> 00:58:41.110
least. Yudai Shigeoka. I've heard of him and

00:58:41.110 --> 00:58:46.309
their brothers, so whatever. They'd apologize

00:58:46.309 --> 00:58:51.429
for not giving me 10. And then gave you the most

00:58:51.429 --> 00:58:53.989
random fucking list of names I've ever heard.

00:58:54.250 --> 00:58:57.690
Yeah. It's an odd one, Gemini, but I'll take

00:58:57.690 --> 00:59:02.030
it, I guess. It's a good starting point. I hate

00:59:02.030 --> 00:59:04.829
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