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Let's fucking boogie.

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Loose lips sink ships.

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Loose lips sink ships.

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The boxing B-Sides.

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We are fucking back.

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Oh my goodness.

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There's way too much to go on.

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We're gonna skip a lot of the fucking preamble.

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If you wanna hear the preamble,

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you're gonna have to go check us out on Patreon.

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But I'm joined by the one and only Alex.

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How you doing buddy?

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How you doing guys?

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What's up man?

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Glad to be here again.

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We got somebody new.

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Josh, what's up buddy?

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Oh yeah.

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Doing good.

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What come on Josh?

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Yeah.

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This is gonna be fun.

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I'm, I'm, I got a good feeling about this.

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All right.

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Before we get to the boxing,

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we gotta extend the olive branch of friendship

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to our compatriots over on the ultimate fucking casuals.

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UFC 313 is coming up this weekend.

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The main event, if you don't know anything else,

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the main event is fucking electric.

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It's really, really good.

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And the card itself is stacked.

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It's fucking stacked.

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This is worth watching.

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Even if you're, you don't really care about MMA,

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that's fine.

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Alex Pajeras, he's a big time striker.

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Heavy, heavy hands.

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Light heavyweight over there.

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Always fun to watch.

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Light heavyweight over there is about cruiser weight

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in the boxing world.

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So that's what you're looking at.

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But we'll be talking about that over there.

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So wherever you're listening to this,

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you can find ultimate fucking casuals there too.

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Into some recaps.

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Let's get the quick shit out of the way.

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The Chicken Bacon Ranch Casino Pro Box.

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Only two I kept.

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Emiliano Moreno.

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Pro Box always delivers fire cards.

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We say it every time, to be the Pro Box,

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you don't have to know who these people are.

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You don't have to be a fucking sicko like me.

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You can just watch and it'll be entertaining.

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It's unfortunate they moved to Saturdays.

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This was their last Wednesday card.

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I like that.

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The Wednesday cards were always so good.

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Yeah, it was always fun.

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Just jumping in the chat with everybody

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and watching the fights.

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Having something to drink.

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Having a beer after work.

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It was like Arthur's in A football.

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That's a good analogy.

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That's perfect.

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That's exactly what it is.

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That's a good analogy.

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Emiliano Moreno gets a stoppage in seven

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over Cesar Francis and Gabriel Flores Jr. UD.

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We're so back, baby.

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Gabe Flores, SAC Town represent.

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Another quick one.

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Luis Neri stops Kionosuke Kameda in the seventh domination.

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Kionosuke was a game.

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It was like one of those too tough

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for his own good kind of things.

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So Neri's got some heavy ass hands.

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So it's a scary prospect to be too tough for yourself.

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All right.

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Are we ready for Riyadh?

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Yeah, the big one.

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Giving my breath for this one.

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This is why we're here.

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This is what gets the new best card of all time.

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His excellence.

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They always say his excellence.

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His excellence.

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He always says.

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Best card of all time.

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All right.

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Let's start from the bottom up as always.

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Callum Smith versus Joshua Bawazi.

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This was a version of Callum Smith that I did not expect.

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I honestly had kind of written him off

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and I was expecting Bawazi to just kind of,

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not steamroll, but like Neri with Kameda, just too much.

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not being able to keep up.

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What did you guys see?

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I was surprised by Callum Smith's fight.

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I'll be the first to admit it.

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I honestly thought Joshua Bawazi would be a knockout.

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I said on the last podcast that I thought

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Callum Smith's time is done for,

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but he's still got a little bit of life in him.

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He's got that Derek Chisora.

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Life flow right there.

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The Derek Chisora.

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No, I honestly, Bawazi's someone that like,

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just in like depth of resume, hadn't shown anything,

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but like I'm surprised Callum Smith was able to hang in there

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like under that type of pressure,

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considering how quickly he wilted against Canelo

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and how he fades.

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But it's just something where you see Bawazi's ceiling

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if you're a little cynical about him.

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with Anthony Yard.

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Cause they're not like, they're never gonna win

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like a world title.

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With how stacked the division is.

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well with how stacked it is, like top heavy it is.

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Like even like that second tier of like Morel Benavides,

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but like, you know that like tier of like,

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like if Joe Smith were still in the division,

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that tier of, or Joe Smith Jr. is still in the division.

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Anthony Yard.

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Those would be fun fights.

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Yard is such a fun, like I want to see Smith and Yard

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go at it so bad.

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Gvozdy can maybe get another shot at interim

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if he wanted to.

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Gvozdy Bawazi is also a good one actually.

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if Bivou vacates his title, which we'll talk about right now,

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but if he were to go up to, let's say Cruiserweight,

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then he would get the title cause Kalim Smith

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is not the interim champion, correct?

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Yes. Interim WBO.

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So yeah, in theory he could potentially get the title

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and they could hold on to that.

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I mean, he might just be a champion soon.

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You never know.

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Fair, fair.

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Overall, that was a good fight.

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I liked that fight a lot.

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I mean, I, I, I remember Leo,

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I did tell you remember that,

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that that fight was going to be unexpectedly good.

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I didn't even think it was going to be that good, you know?

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I'm wondering how would either of these guys,

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particularly Kalim Smith since he's the winner,

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but how would he fare against like David Morrell

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based on what we saw against Benavides?

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Is Benavides too good and Morrell too inexperienced

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with Kalim Smith?

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Has a similar level of experience,

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like elite level experience that David Benavides does.

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Hasn't always been, he's not 100% green on the board,

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like with wins across the board, but I don't know.

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I just think-

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Can Smith-

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He's not the-

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Hang with the explosiveness though.

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Benavides, it's just the explosiveness difference.

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Like I feel like it kind of caught Morrell cold,

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aside from the obvious well depth and gap and experience,

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but unless Kalim Smith can really assert himself early,

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and even then Morrell has so much fucking heart.

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Yeah, he does.

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Lesser men get stopped against Benavides like that.

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I think Morrell takes down Kalim Smith

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and both him and Joshua Boazzi.

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And that's not really me being biased.

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It's more so that he's young and he's hungry.

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I guess just an athleticism difference.

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Like Kalim Smith is not to discredit the man at all,

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but he is, it's just not on that,

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like he's just not explosive enough to take advantage

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of those lapses that Morrell often has in his defense

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without taking excessive punishment in return.

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Yeah, sure man.

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I mean, he also doesn't really have the speed

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to also take advantage of openings that Morrell has.

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Whereas Benavides was very, he had quick hands that fight.

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So he was able to catch David Morrell a lot that night.

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He's explosive and he sets traps,

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which is not something that Smith is particularly good at.

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Yeah, Smith is like the run on the mill British,

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heavier.

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He's got heart though.

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He's got heart.

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He's got like actual heart.

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I was about to say, he's kind of like,

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the Brits are similar to Mexicans.

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I think I mentioned in the last podcast too actually.

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The Brits are similar to Mexicans to where

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they have a certain style, but they got heart.

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They got a lot of heart.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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It's something that like, you kind of have to,

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I feel like you kind of, you throw yard in there

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and like you kind of, Morrell, not to say like Morrell,

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they need like another kind of touch

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before stepping up to that like kind of like S tier

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of the division, I guess.

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Cause even if it's top heavy,

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there's still like such a gap between that top

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and like these top 10 guys, you know?

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Yeah, oh yeah, for sure.

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The guys at the top are pound for pound,

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the best in the world.

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Yeah.

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You know?

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So, you can make the argument for both,

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but besides being S tier, it's like,

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there's a lot of A's and B's that can go up.

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Yeah, it's not that they're any bad.

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It's just that like, I feel like it's more fun

273
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to see if we can kind of shine a diamond

274
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out of this A, B tier.

275
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Yeah, sure.

276
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And then just shatter it against

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in an uncompetitive matchup, honestly.

278
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Like this fight probably, this fight

279
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and the next one that we're gonna talk about,

280
00:10:26,660 --> 00:10:28,060
it should probably, it should have been higher up

281
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on the card, cause they were, they're quality matchups.

282
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Yeah.

283
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Genuinely.

284
00:10:32,860 --> 00:10:33,900
I disagree.

285
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I think, the thing is on paper,

286
00:10:35,900 --> 00:10:37,980
this fight really should have been at the bottom,

287
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but how it played out, it really,

288
00:10:39,300 --> 00:10:40,660
it could have been a co-main.

289
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Yeah.

290
00:10:41,500 --> 00:10:45,060
I guess it's me being more down on Buwazi than anything.

291
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Yeah.

292
00:10:45,900 --> 00:10:47,460
I agree.

293
00:10:47,460 --> 00:10:49,540
It depends on the perception of the fighters, I guess.

294
00:10:49,540 --> 00:10:50,940
Yeah, for sure, for sure.

295
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So I'm wondering, I'm looking at just ESPN.

296
00:10:53,580 --> 00:10:55,380
So take it with a green assault,

297
00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:58,660
but their rankings are, for light heavyweight,

298
00:10:58,660 --> 00:11:02,860
their top 10 is like genuinely dog shit right now.

299
00:11:02,860 --> 00:11:06,100
But, so Arthur Benavides of Embiival,

300
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are the top two, no shit.

301
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To me, that's the best tier.

302
00:11:10,900 --> 00:11:15,900
And Benavides is sitting alone in an A tier.

303
00:11:16,460 --> 00:11:21,460
And I'm wondering if, who else might be with Benavides?

304
00:11:22,140 --> 00:11:24,780
Well, it's like an A plus, A minus with like Morello.

305
00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:25,620
Yeah.

306
00:11:25,620 --> 00:11:26,460
Okay.

307
00:11:26,460 --> 00:11:28,740
Cause like with Morello, genuinely just is like

308
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that championship experience.

309
00:11:30,660 --> 00:11:32,020
Cause like what?

310
00:11:32,020 --> 00:11:34,220
Yeah, he's gone 12 ones.

311
00:11:34,220 --> 00:11:36,740
Like, Benavides has been on the tear up.

312
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I disagree.

313
00:11:37,940 --> 00:11:41,500
I mean, I agree that he, it's an A plus, A minus,

314
00:11:41,500 --> 00:11:45,700
but I still think Morello starts to prove himself.

315
00:11:45,700 --> 00:11:46,540
Yeah.

316
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To be A minus, you know?

317
00:11:48,020 --> 00:11:48,860
Yeah.

318
00:11:48,860 --> 00:11:51,100
But I feel like that's why you make Callum Smith and Yard

319
00:11:51,100 --> 00:11:52,300
and then you.

320
00:11:52,300 --> 00:11:54,780
I would like to see probably either Anthony Yard

321
00:11:54,780 --> 00:11:57,740
versus Morello or Morello versus Callum Smith.

322
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And then see where he goes from there.

323
00:12:01,300 --> 00:12:02,700
I like that a lot.

324
00:12:02,700 --> 00:12:04,060
That would be a good Riyadh card too.

325
00:12:04,060 --> 00:12:05,620
They worked with Morello in the past.

326
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So I mean, I think-

327
00:12:06,460 --> 00:12:09,180
Even Morello, I feel like for the fun factor,

328
00:12:09,180 --> 00:12:11,740
I feel like Morello Yard is the way to go though.

329
00:12:11,740 --> 00:12:12,940
Yeah, that'd be dynamite.

330
00:12:12,940 --> 00:12:17,060
Like cause Yard, like Yard held up pretty good

331
00:12:17,060 --> 00:12:18,220
against Benavides.

332
00:12:18,220 --> 00:12:20,940
Yeah, I was just trying to find how long he went.

333
00:12:20,940 --> 00:12:21,820
Eight out of 12.

334
00:12:21,820 --> 00:12:23,620
So that's pretty damn good.

335
00:12:23,620 --> 00:12:26,580
And for a defense that leaky.

336
00:12:26,580 --> 00:12:27,420
Yeah.

337
00:12:27,420 --> 00:12:28,740
For a defense that leaky.

338
00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:31,180
Like that's cause like, cause like,

339
00:12:31,180 --> 00:12:32,940
not to put Yard down,

340
00:12:32,940 --> 00:12:36,860
but his defense is basically just vibes.

341
00:12:36,860 --> 00:12:40,220
His defense is basically just vibes.

342
00:12:40,220 --> 00:12:42,060
That's the best way I've heard.

343
00:12:42,060 --> 00:12:42,900
That's the best kind of defense.

344
00:12:42,900 --> 00:12:44,620
What else do you need?

345
00:12:44,620 --> 00:12:45,460
It's just vibes.

346
00:12:45,460 --> 00:12:46,300
Like.

347
00:12:47,540 --> 00:12:49,020
I do not vibe with that punch.

348
00:12:49,020 --> 00:12:50,300
I'm going to take it.

349
00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:52,820
It's just the athleticism.

350
00:12:52,820 --> 00:12:54,740
Like a guy like Beterbiev,

351
00:12:54,740 --> 00:12:58,180
like the traps he sets offensively just doesn't.

352
00:12:58,180 --> 00:13:00,940
But with Morello, you really see whether like,

353
00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:03,420
Benavides was actually that much ahead of him,

354
00:13:03,420 --> 00:13:06,020
or if it was more shortcoming from Morello.

355
00:13:06,020 --> 00:13:06,860
I agree there.

356
00:13:06,860 --> 00:13:07,980
Deficiencies versus.

357
00:13:07,980 --> 00:13:08,820
Yeah.

358
00:13:08,820 --> 00:13:10,180
Proficiencies in Benavides.

359
00:13:10,180 --> 00:13:11,020
Yeah.

360
00:13:11,020 --> 00:13:11,860
Absolutely.

361
00:13:11,860 --> 00:13:12,700
We gotta keep moving though.

362
00:13:12,700 --> 00:13:14,220
Cause like there's a lot of.

363
00:13:14,220 --> 00:13:15,060
There's so much.

364
00:13:15,060 --> 00:13:15,900
Yeah.

365
00:13:15,900 --> 00:13:16,740
So much.

366
00:13:16,740 --> 00:13:17,580
Yeah.

367
00:13:17,580 --> 00:13:18,420
This is fucking Cal-Swift.

368
00:13:18,420 --> 00:13:19,500
But we're going to be talking about,

369
00:13:19,500 --> 00:13:20,340
this is the bulk,

370
00:13:20,340 --> 00:13:21,380
going to be the bulk of the episode.

371
00:13:21,380 --> 00:13:23,660
So fucking buckle in.

372
00:13:24,820 --> 00:13:26,700
Moving up to Virgil Ortiz,

373
00:13:26,700 --> 00:13:29,260
I guess UD over Madrimov,

374
00:13:29,260 --> 00:13:32,380
interim WBC 154 title was on the line.

375
00:13:32,380 --> 00:13:33,380
Let's go my man.

376
00:13:33,380 --> 00:13:34,220
Virgil bro.

377
00:13:35,260 --> 00:13:37,100
This is probably the best fight on the card.

378
00:13:37,100 --> 00:13:37,940
Other than like,

379
00:13:37,940 --> 00:13:39,460
like the probably the best fight in the card

380
00:13:39,460 --> 00:13:40,620
from like a consistent,

381
00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:41,980
like fun factor.

382
00:13:41,980 --> 00:13:42,820
Yeah.

383
00:13:42,820 --> 00:13:43,660
I agree.

384
00:13:43,660 --> 00:13:45,460
It was, it was gangbusters.

385
00:13:45,460 --> 00:13:46,700
I mean,

386
00:13:46,700 --> 00:13:47,860
what was it a war?

387
00:13:47,860 --> 00:13:48,860
Not really.

388
00:13:48,860 --> 00:13:49,820
For the first half of the fight,

389
00:13:49,820 --> 00:13:52,660
it was, it was mainly a tactical battle.

390
00:13:52,660 --> 00:13:53,500
But that second half,

391
00:13:53,500 --> 00:13:54,460
ooh boy.

392
00:13:54,460 --> 00:13:55,660
That second half,

393
00:13:55,660 --> 00:13:56,740
Dynamite.

394
00:13:56,740 --> 00:14:00,300
Virgil's jab is just so, so effective in

395
00:14:00,300 --> 00:14:02,460
letting him build his offense off of it.

396
00:14:03,580 --> 00:14:05,820
The one thing that surprised me about Virgil this time

397
00:14:05,820 --> 00:14:06,900
was not even his offense.

398
00:14:06,900 --> 00:14:08,140
It was his defense.

399
00:14:08,140 --> 00:14:10,700
He was so patient with the defense that

400
00:14:10,700 --> 00:14:12,100
I was surprised.

401
00:14:12,100 --> 00:14:13,620
There was this one time that,

402
00:14:13,620 --> 00:14:15,460
that Madrimov,

403
00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:16,780
what he just kept throwing

404
00:14:16,780 --> 00:14:18,580
and I think it was 11th, right?

405
00:14:18,580 --> 00:14:21,660
And Virgil Ortiz just kept blocking and moving.

406
00:14:21,660 --> 00:14:22,900
I didn't know that he had a,

407
00:14:22,900 --> 00:14:24,100
he kind of had that in him,

408
00:14:24,100 --> 00:14:25,220
you know?

409
00:14:25,220 --> 00:14:27,580
I think he would get kind of careless in the end.

410
00:14:27,580 --> 00:14:28,580
Yeah.

411
00:14:28,580 --> 00:14:30,220
Well, you saw it in the Boa Chuk fight.

412
00:14:30,220 --> 00:14:31,300
Like,

413
00:14:31,300 --> 00:14:35,100
Boa Chuk is like extremely competent and also just,

414
00:14:35,100 --> 00:14:36,420
from Virgil's early career,

415
00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:39,660
you would have expected him to get nailed by

416
00:14:39,660 --> 00:14:40,980
counters like that, but no,

417
00:14:40,980 --> 00:14:42,700
like he's really,

418
00:14:42,700 --> 00:14:44,300
he's still with Robert Garcia, right?

419
00:14:44,300 --> 00:14:45,140
Yeah.

420
00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:45,980
Yeah.

421
00:14:45,980 --> 00:14:46,820
Yeah.

422
00:14:46,820 --> 00:14:49,420
Super credit to Robert Garcia for like patching up those,

423
00:14:49,420 --> 00:14:52,500
like that impulsiveness that showed itself pretty early,

424
00:14:52,500 --> 00:14:53,700
earlier in his career.

425
00:14:53,700 --> 00:14:54,540
Yeah.

426
00:14:54,540 --> 00:14:55,380
He never,

427
00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:58,340
I thought that Madrimov was gonna have a different approach

428
00:14:58,340 --> 00:14:59,580
because like in the first half,

429
00:14:59,580 --> 00:15:00,900
like you were saying, Alex,

430
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:03,220
there was like a tactical,

431
00:15:03,220 --> 00:15:05,820
technical sort of battle.

432
00:15:05,820 --> 00:15:06,660
And then he's like,

433
00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:08,580
oh shit, well, this is getting me nowhere.

434
00:15:08,580 --> 00:15:11,540
Time to throw caution to the wind

435
00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:15,220
and start throwing punches and seeing what lands.

436
00:15:15,220 --> 00:15:18,860
But Virgil Ortiz, adaptability, versatility,

437
00:15:19,980 --> 00:15:21,380
he worked through all of it.

438
00:15:21,380 --> 00:15:24,220
And yeah, big, big ups to Robert Garcia.

439
00:15:24,220 --> 00:15:27,260
The man is having a stellar year.

440
00:15:27,260 --> 00:15:28,100
Yeah.

441
00:15:28,100 --> 00:15:30,620
One fight not withstanding, you know?

442
00:15:30,620 --> 00:15:33,420
Weirdly enough, I think it was a bit more,

443
00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:34,660
it was more convincing for sure

444
00:15:34,660 --> 00:15:36,500
than the Crawfords went over Madrimov,

445
00:15:36,500 --> 00:15:38,460
just cause you saw more,

446
00:15:38,460 --> 00:15:41,420
you saw more gears that Virgil could go through.

447
00:15:41,420 --> 00:15:45,540
Like Crawford can adjust, but just in terms of pace, like.

448
00:15:47,820 --> 00:15:48,660
Yeah.

449
00:15:50,660 --> 00:15:52,820
There's more to this than just making

450
00:15:52,820 --> 00:15:54,100
the technical adjustments.

451
00:15:54,100 --> 00:15:59,100
There's like, how many gears can you really go through?

452
00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:01,580
Is that, is that controversial right there?

453
00:16:01,580 --> 00:16:03,300
Is that a controversial take?

454
00:16:03,300 --> 00:16:05,980
That Virgil was a little more cynical than Crawford?

455
00:16:05,980 --> 00:16:06,820
No, it's not even like.

456
00:16:06,820 --> 00:16:08,220
It is win first Madrimov, specifically.

457
00:16:08,220 --> 00:16:10,300
It is win first Madrimov, specifically.

458
00:16:10,300 --> 00:16:12,100
Madrimov, yeah.

459
00:16:12,100 --> 00:16:13,780
Like where you say, like it's a common opponent.

460
00:16:13,780 --> 00:16:15,380
Madrimov is a weird opponent too.

461
00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:18,740
So it's not, especially cause Virgil definitely had time

462
00:16:18,740 --> 00:16:19,780
to adjust to this weight.

463
00:16:19,780 --> 00:16:21,980
Crawford came off like,

464
00:16:21,980 --> 00:16:23,300
beating the shit out of Spence,

465
00:16:23,300 --> 00:16:25,420
moved up a weight class off a long layoff.

466
00:16:25,420 --> 00:16:28,180
And whereas like Virgil, Virgil is a climatized here.

467
00:16:29,100 --> 00:16:29,940
True.

468
00:16:29,940 --> 00:16:31,300
Yeah.

469
00:16:31,300 --> 00:16:32,140
Sex facts.

470
00:16:32,140 --> 00:16:34,540
Different circumstances, but for sure.

471
00:16:34,540 --> 00:16:37,740
I just feel like Virgil, it's definitely a youth thing,

472
00:16:37,740 --> 00:16:41,740
but Virgil just has more gears to go through athletically

473
00:16:41,740 --> 00:16:44,260
than Crawford does at this point.

474
00:16:44,260 --> 00:16:46,180
There was this one time during the fight,

475
00:16:46,180 --> 00:16:47,780
I forgot which round I was in,

476
00:16:47,780 --> 00:16:50,140
but it was, it just, it was so beautiful.

477
00:16:50,140 --> 00:16:50,980
I don't know if you guys remember this,

478
00:16:50,980 --> 00:16:55,700
but Virgil was pawn at Madrimov and he pretended up like,

479
00:16:55,700 --> 00:16:56,860
he pulled out of the glove, right?

480
00:16:56,860 --> 00:17:01,860
And he was gonna, he was gonna throw to the body, right?

481
00:17:02,340 --> 00:17:03,940
And then he went over the top.

482
00:17:03,940 --> 00:17:04,780
Oh my God.

483
00:17:04,780 --> 00:17:05,780
That was one of the most beautiful things

484
00:17:05,780 --> 00:17:06,820
I've seen from Virgil.

485
00:17:06,820 --> 00:17:08,540
I'm not fanboying here cause Virgil's my guy.

486
00:17:08,540 --> 00:17:10,220
I'm obviously gonna be biased at this, but.

487
00:17:10,220 --> 00:17:11,380
No, it's just fluid.

488
00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:13,540
It's just fluid though.

489
00:17:13,540 --> 00:17:15,100
His offense was amazing.

490
00:17:15,100 --> 00:17:17,100
I mean, it was just, it was spectacular.

491
00:17:17,100 --> 00:17:18,780
I think, I think it's probably one of,

492
00:17:18,780 --> 00:17:21,500
if not his best performance of his career.

493
00:17:21,500 --> 00:17:23,620
I mean, I'm excited to see where he goes for this.

494
00:17:23,620 --> 00:17:26,020
I mean, I hope that he gets a title shot,

495
00:17:26,020 --> 00:17:28,980
hopefully from Fundora if he wins this next fight,

496
00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:30,980
but we'll see what happens.

497
00:17:30,980 --> 00:17:32,780
154 is exciting.

498
00:17:32,780 --> 00:17:34,860
Like it's exciting like it was a couple of years ago,

499
00:17:34,860 --> 00:17:37,660
but like it's not in that like,

500
00:17:37,660 --> 00:17:39,340
like everyone can beat each other,

501
00:17:39,340 --> 00:17:42,260
but in the sense that they're all talented,

502
00:17:42,260 --> 00:17:44,500
they're not all equally flawed.

503
00:17:44,500 --> 00:17:46,500
Yeah, I mean, the styles are gonna make the fights.

504
00:17:46,500 --> 00:17:47,340
Yeah.

505
00:17:47,340 --> 00:17:48,420
It's gonna be at the end of the day.

506
00:17:48,420 --> 00:17:49,260
I mean.

507
00:17:49,260 --> 00:17:53,020
No one has any super deficiencies except for maybe Sue.

508
00:17:53,020 --> 00:17:54,340
We'll see what happens in the future.

509
00:17:54,340 --> 00:17:57,300
That one's gonna be interesting to see.

510
00:17:57,300 --> 00:17:58,540
For sure.

511
00:17:58,540 --> 00:18:00,700
So, but actually before we keep going

512
00:18:00,700 --> 00:18:02,300
with Virgil's next options,

513
00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:06,300
I wanted to ask what can Madrimov do from here?

514
00:18:06,300 --> 00:18:09,420
Cause I think the Boha Chuck fight is still on the table.

515
00:18:10,580 --> 00:18:11,500
Oh, absolutely.

516
00:18:11,500 --> 00:18:12,580
That's a fun fight.

517
00:18:12,580 --> 00:18:15,340
But I think the thing is that like you,

518
00:18:15,340 --> 00:18:18,260
that fight is a headliner in its own.

519
00:18:18,260 --> 00:18:20,220
Like just think,

520
00:18:20,220 --> 00:18:23,100
and also both guys have been off of like

521
00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:24,820
pretty grueling series of fights.

522
00:18:24,820 --> 00:18:27,100
Like you can build, you can,

523
00:18:27,100 --> 00:18:28,500
I'm not gonna say the word marinate

524
00:18:28,500 --> 00:18:30,140
cause it's like a dirty word in boxing,

525
00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:32,660
but it's a dirty word.

526
00:18:32,660 --> 00:18:34,420
But cause I'm not thinking about it

527
00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:35,660
from a business perspective.

528
00:18:35,660 --> 00:18:38,180
It's like let them show up in their best condition

529
00:18:38,180 --> 00:18:40,540
instead of shopworn from their recent

530
00:18:40,540 --> 00:18:43,260
actually really difficult run.

531
00:18:43,260 --> 00:18:45,820
So you want to build up the fight.

532
00:18:45,820 --> 00:18:46,660
Yeah.

533
00:18:46,660 --> 00:18:48,020
Have them fight like not even,

534
00:18:48,020 --> 00:18:49,420
cause they're like, they're all like top 10.

535
00:18:49,420 --> 00:18:52,060
Have them fight like a top 20 guy in the division,

536
00:18:52,060 --> 00:18:54,820
maybe bring up a welterweight who,

537
00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:56,860
like an older welterweight,

538
00:18:56,860 --> 00:18:58,780
like it's your time.

539
00:18:58,780 --> 00:19:00,500
Have them on the same card of the undercard

540
00:19:00,500 --> 00:19:02,620
of one of these Raj season cards.

541
00:19:02,620 --> 00:19:03,940
As like a comeback fight.

542
00:19:03,940 --> 00:19:05,020
Yeah.

543
00:19:05,020 --> 00:19:08,260
Let everyone see that they're not like just opponents.

544
00:19:08,260 --> 00:19:10,300
These guys can both headline and bang,

545
00:19:10,300 --> 00:19:13,300
and then you have them bang with each other.

546
00:19:13,300 --> 00:19:14,580
That's the thing though.

547
00:19:14,580 --> 00:19:17,940
I feel like doing that,

548
00:19:17,940 --> 00:19:19,420
they would lose the opportunity to fight each other

549
00:19:19,420 --> 00:19:21,060
at one point.

550
00:19:21,060 --> 00:19:22,900
Because I mean, assuming they do that,

551
00:19:22,900 --> 00:19:24,980
they're also going to be moving up in the ranks, correct?

552
00:19:24,980 --> 00:19:25,820
Yeah.

553
00:19:25,820 --> 00:19:27,740
Meaning other people would want to fight them.

554
00:19:27,740 --> 00:19:28,580
Yeah.

555
00:19:28,580 --> 00:19:29,420
They're out of the picture,

556
00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:31,060
but like in terms of like the,

557
00:19:31,060 --> 00:19:33,260
like the sort of thinning top of the division,

558
00:19:33,260 --> 00:19:35,540
cause the way it's just how it is,

559
00:19:35,540 --> 00:19:38,900
like these Raj season cards put a bunch of ranked opponents

560
00:19:38,900 --> 00:19:39,740
against each other.

561
00:19:39,740 --> 00:19:41,700
The top of the division kind of thins out.

562
00:19:42,980 --> 00:19:45,140
So once you're out,

563
00:19:45,140 --> 00:19:48,500
you're kind of out until the division sorts itself out.

564
00:19:48,500 --> 00:19:49,740
I can see what you're saying.

565
00:19:49,740 --> 00:19:52,500
I agree with you to a certain extent,

566
00:19:52,500 --> 00:19:54,660
but I don't think it's gotten to that point yet.

567
00:19:54,660 --> 00:19:55,500
No, not yet.

568
00:19:55,500 --> 00:19:57,540
I don't think they're at that point.

569
00:19:57,540 --> 00:19:58,380
No.

570
00:19:58,380 --> 00:19:59,220
I think the Crawford invasion

571
00:19:59,220 --> 00:20:01,060
just kind of shook up the division a little bit.

572
00:20:01,060 --> 00:20:05,340
Also with Charlo leaving the division as well,

573
00:20:05,340 --> 00:20:06,460
kind of shook it up as well.

574
00:20:06,460 --> 00:20:08,900
But I mean, I'm excited to see what's going to happen

575
00:20:08,900 --> 00:20:11,460
in the future cause it's heating up a lot.

576
00:20:11,460 --> 00:20:13,460
It's heating up a lot.

577
00:20:13,460 --> 00:20:15,700
And with Fendora having two titles,

578
00:20:15,700 --> 00:20:17,660
I mean, that's up for grabs.

579
00:20:17,660 --> 00:20:19,260
I mean, I don't want to hate on Fendora right now.

580
00:20:19,260 --> 00:20:21,020
He's a hell of a fighter,

581
00:20:21,020 --> 00:20:23,700
but for all the other guys in the division,

582
00:20:24,660 --> 00:20:27,540
it's two free titles for the taking in my opinion.

583
00:20:27,540 --> 00:20:31,060
But we'll get to that a little later on in the next podcast.

584
00:20:31,060 --> 00:20:33,060
When we talk about Fendora.

585
00:20:33,060 --> 00:20:35,740
But just this division is just,

586
00:20:35,740 --> 00:20:36,940
they're all very close.

587
00:20:38,220 --> 00:20:39,180
And they're all fun.

588
00:20:39,180 --> 00:20:41,380
It's not like, that's the big thing.

589
00:20:41,380 --> 00:20:42,220
Like as a viewer,

590
00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:45,060
as a viewer and like an enthusiast

591
00:20:45,060 --> 00:20:46,940
that these fights getting put together, they're fun.

592
00:20:46,940 --> 00:20:49,620
There's no Rigindow or a or Shakur up there.

593
00:20:49,620 --> 00:20:50,580
You know what I mean?

594
00:20:50,580 --> 00:20:51,420
They're all bang.

595
00:20:51,420 --> 00:20:52,260
They're all bang.

596
00:20:52,260 --> 00:20:53,100
Yeah.

597
00:20:53,100 --> 00:20:53,940
Which is be fun.

598
00:20:53,940 --> 00:20:55,820
I mean, this fight, you can say that maybe

599
00:20:55,820 --> 00:20:58,340
Israel Magrimon, he's a little,

600
00:20:58,340 --> 00:20:59,700
he kind of fights off the back foot.

601
00:20:59,700 --> 00:21:00,540
I mean, it's fine.

602
00:21:00,540 --> 00:21:03,380
You kind of did see, he did fight on the back foot a lot.

603
00:21:03,380 --> 00:21:04,220
But you know what?

604
00:21:04,220 --> 00:21:05,300
I think that's the most you're going to see

605
00:21:05,300 --> 00:21:06,900
out of the division.

606
00:21:06,900 --> 00:21:07,720
These fights.

607
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:08,560
Yeah. There's something,

608
00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:10,380
there's something that we said about like a nice sloppy war,

609
00:21:10,380 --> 00:21:14,100
but also just, it's something that is the,

610
00:21:14,100 --> 00:21:17,300
like it's the sport at its best when you get guys

611
00:21:17,300 --> 00:21:20,500
who can box, like really box, but you know,

612
00:21:20,500 --> 00:21:22,660
they want to engage.

613
00:21:22,660 --> 00:21:24,620
And that's something you see a lot with this division.

614
00:21:24,620 --> 00:21:26,780
I think this division is going to become a classic.

615
00:21:26,780 --> 00:21:30,020
Offensive technicians versus defensive technicians.

616
00:21:30,020 --> 00:21:30,860
Oh yeah.

617
00:21:30,860 --> 00:21:31,700
Yeah.

618
00:21:31,700 --> 00:21:32,540
There's names.

619
00:21:32,540 --> 00:21:33,780
So what I want to see,

620
00:21:33,780 --> 00:21:36,340
someone I want to see get in the mix, like,

621
00:21:36,340 --> 00:21:39,580
regardless of like the top, how the very top.

622
00:21:39,580 --> 00:21:40,580
I want to see Charles Conwell

623
00:21:40,580 --> 00:21:42,700
start really getting in the mix here.

624
00:21:42,700 --> 00:21:43,540
Yeah.

625
00:21:43,540 --> 00:21:45,980
He could really shake things up.

626
00:21:45,980 --> 00:21:47,300
I've been a believer.

627
00:21:47,300 --> 00:21:48,380
I've been a believer.

628
00:21:48,380 --> 00:21:49,940
I haven't been on the podcast before.

629
00:21:49,940 --> 00:21:52,180
I've been a Charles Conwell believer.

630
00:21:52,180 --> 00:21:53,580
Yeah. I've been impressed with him.

631
00:21:53,580 --> 00:21:55,100
The last few fights I've watched.

632
00:21:55,100 --> 00:21:55,940
Yeah.

633
00:21:55,940 --> 00:21:57,620
We'll see what happens with him.

634
00:21:57,620 --> 00:21:58,460
Yeah.

635
00:21:58,460 --> 00:22:01,220
So I guarantee you this division is going to be a,

636
00:22:01,220 --> 00:22:02,500
a classic in the future though.

637
00:22:02,500 --> 00:22:03,420
Like people are going to remember this,

638
00:22:03,420 --> 00:22:05,780
like how people remember the welterweight division

639
00:22:05,780 --> 00:22:06,860
with Mayweather.

640
00:22:06,860 --> 00:22:07,700
You know what I mean?

641
00:22:07,700 --> 00:22:11,060
The last time that like it was Jarrett Hurd,

642
00:22:11,060 --> 00:22:13,020
Tony Harrison,

643
00:22:13,020 --> 00:22:14,380
Charlo,

644
00:22:14,380 --> 00:22:15,220
Brian Castaño.

645
00:22:15,220 --> 00:22:16,060
Charlo Castaño.

646
00:22:16,060 --> 00:22:16,980
Yeah.

647
00:22:16,980 --> 00:22:17,820
Those were the guys.

648
00:22:17,820 --> 00:22:19,820
But they were all, they all had,

649
00:22:19,820 --> 00:22:21,540
they was fun cause they were all flawed.

650
00:22:21,540 --> 00:22:23,180
Like here, there's no like-

651
00:22:23,180 --> 00:22:24,420
Also J-Rock and Lara,

652
00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:25,260
J-Rock.

653
00:22:25,260 --> 00:22:27,100
And J-Rock was at 154 at the time.

654
00:22:27,100 --> 00:22:28,260
Yeah.

655
00:22:28,260 --> 00:22:29,100
At the time, yeah.

656
00:22:30,940 --> 00:22:33,940
And for Virgil,

657
00:22:33,940 --> 00:22:36,540
it's got to be a title shot next, right?

658
00:22:36,540 --> 00:22:37,380
He has to.

659
00:22:37,380 --> 00:22:38,220
I'm raging.

660
00:22:39,220 --> 00:22:41,180
There can't be anything else.

661
00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:43,140
There's no, he needs to activate mandatory.

662
00:22:43,140 --> 00:22:45,300
He has two interim titles, correct?

663
00:22:45,300 --> 00:22:46,140
Yeah.

664
00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:46,980
I think so.

665
00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:48,700
Let me look on Box for a quick, hold up.

666
00:22:48,700 --> 00:22:50,380
Box rec is down at the moment.

667
00:22:50,380 --> 00:22:51,620
Box rec is down.

668
00:22:51,620 --> 00:22:52,620
It's actually horrible.

669
00:22:52,620 --> 00:22:54,180
It's actually horrible timing.

670
00:22:54,180 --> 00:22:55,020
Yeah, I know.

671
00:22:55,020 --> 00:22:57,260
I was trying to look up who was at a,

672
00:22:57,260 --> 00:22:58,820
when we were talking about the light heavyweights,

673
00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:01,940
I was quiet cause I'm like over here, like raging.

674
00:23:01,940 --> 00:23:03,980
Like what the fuck is wrong with it?

675
00:23:03,980 --> 00:23:05,580
Yeah.

676
00:23:05,580 --> 00:23:06,420
So I went to-

677
00:23:06,420 --> 00:23:08,460
ESPN got me.

678
00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:09,300
Yeah.

679
00:23:09,300 --> 00:23:11,500
Fight Facts, it's actually not too bad.

680
00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:13,820
He has a WBA gold.

681
00:23:13,820 --> 00:23:15,980
Whatever the hell that is.

682
00:23:15,980 --> 00:23:17,220
That's not an interim title.

683
00:23:17,220 --> 00:23:18,060
It's not.

684
00:23:18,060 --> 00:23:19,460
Regardless of his interim titles,

685
00:23:19,460 --> 00:23:22,020
I need to see like Bakram and Virgil.

686
00:23:22,860 --> 00:23:23,700
Yeah.

687
00:23:23,700 --> 00:23:24,540
Oh yeah.

688
00:23:24,540 --> 00:23:27,060
Mertzaliev and Virgil is just, they're just,

689
00:23:27,060 --> 00:23:30,420
they're good, good operators.

690
00:23:30,420 --> 00:23:33,180
Their offenses are stellar to watch.

691
00:23:33,180 --> 00:23:35,420
And they both, unless proven otherwise,

692
00:23:35,420 --> 00:23:38,540
they both have very solid chins that can hold up

693
00:23:38,540 --> 00:23:40,660
to what they can throw at each other.

694
00:23:40,660 --> 00:23:42,820
That's a classic.

695
00:23:42,820 --> 00:23:45,180
That's for sure a classic, but that's probably,

696
00:23:45,180 --> 00:23:47,300
that's going to be really dangerous for Virgil,

697
00:23:47,300 --> 00:23:48,620
in my opinion.

698
00:23:48,620 --> 00:23:51,980
Bakram is a guy you cannot mess with.

699
00:23:51,980 --> 00:23:53,740
You know, you cannot, like,

700
00:23:53,740 --> 00:23:55,300
you can't have any mistake with that guy.

701
00:23:55,300 --> 00:23:56,940
Cause he's going to catch you.

702
00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:57,780
Yeah, but as you mentioned,

703
00:23:57,780 --> 00:24:00,500
like the patience he showed in these last couple of fights

704
00:24:00,500 --> 00:24:03,500
is like, before,

705
00:24:03,500 --> 00:24:07,860
before we saw this like extra dimension mentally from him,

706
00:24:07,860 --> 00:24:08,980
you could be like, yeah,

707
00:24:08,980 --> 00:24:11,140
Bakram is going to catch him here with the patience.

708
00:24:11,140 --> 00:24:13,940
It's less likely that he gets caught super, super clean.

709
00:24:15,300 --> 00:24:16,140
For sure.

710
00:24:16,140 --> 00:24:18,780
Without his building himself first.

711
00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:19,620
Yeah.

712
00:24:19,620 --> 00:24:21,140
Cause that jab, like again,

713
00:24:21,140 --> 00:24:24,060
Virgil's jab is probably the best part of his offense.

714
00:24:24,060 --> 00:24:26,220
Cause you see like the clip you mentioned

715
00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:29,380
where he can paw at it, it only comes out of that,

716
00:24:29,380 --> 00:24:32,900
like a, like just piston like jab at the start of the fight.

717
00:24:32,900 --> 00:24:33,740
For sure.

718
00:24:33,740 --> 00:24:35,980
She always comes out firing that thing.

719
00:24:35,980 --> 00:24:38,100
With Bakram specifically,

720
00:24:38,100 --> 00:24:40,860
he's a really good finisher.

721
00:24:40,860 --> 00:24:42,220
Oh, absolutely.

722
00:24:42,220 --> 00:24:44,980
The way he finished Tim Tzu was scary.

723
00:24:44,980 --> 00:24:46,340
I remember watching that,

724
00:24:46,340 --> 00:24:49,300
it was, it's giving me flabby.

725
00:24:49,300 --> 00:24:51,220
I was in disbelief.

726
00:24:51,220 --> 00:24:54,580
But the way he finished Tim Tzu was crazy.

727
00:24:54,580 --> 00:24:57,140
So Virgil cannot mess up like that at all.

728
00:24:57,140 --> 00:24:58,740
No, absolutely.

729
00:24:58,740 --> 00:25:00,340
It's a good title shot though.

730
00:25:00,340 --> 00:25:01,180
It's a good title shot.

731
00:25:01,180 --> 00:25:02,260
Good as,

732
00:25:02,260 --> 00:25:03,300
good as match up.

733
00:25:03,300 --> 00:25:04,140
Yeah.

734
00:25:04,140 --> 00:25:08,820
Cause it's Fendora and then Crawford and Bakram.

735
00:25:08,820 --> 00:25:09,740
Crawford's moving up.

736
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:11,540
So he's going to be vacating the title.

737
00:25:11,540 --> 00:25:13,380
So I mean, you can fight-

738
00:25:13,380 --> 00:25:15,180
Is number two in the WBA?

739
00:25:15,180 --> 00:25:16,500
Damn, I can't, I don't know if you can check.

740
00:25:16,500 --> 00:25:18,020
I'm looking this up, I got this.

741
00:25:18,020 --> 00:25:18,860
I got this.

742
00:25:18,860 --> 00:25:20,380
Yeah, I'm looking it up too.

743
00:25:20,380 --> 00:25:21,220
Cause maybe,

744
00:25:21,220 --> 00:25:24,180
maybe he could get a WBA title when Crawford vacates.

745
00:25:24,180 --> 00:25:25,020
Which I think-

746
00:25:25,020 --> 00:25:26,260
Yeah, you got Lubin.

747
00:25:26,260 --> 00:25:27,580
Lubin, right?

748
00:25:27,580 --> 00:25:28,660
Yeah, Lubin.

749
00:25:28,660 --> 00:25:31,740
It'd be Lubin or Jesus Ramos.

750
00:25:31,740 --> 00:25:32,580
Oh, okay.

751
00:25:32,580 --> 00:25:34,220
Pace Ramos, I got it.

752
00:25:34,220 --> 00:25:36,100
I would like for it to be Lubin simply

753
00:25:36,100 --> 00:25:39,020
so that he could be punished for being on the-

754
00:25:39,020 --> 00:25:40,100
Robbing Ramos.

755
00:25:40,100 --> 00:25:41,140
For robbing Ramos.

756
00:25:41,140 --> 00:25:42,860
Even though it wasn't his fault,

757
00:25:42,860 --> 00:25:44,500
he still has to pay for it.

758
00:25:44,500 --> 00:25:45,780
He's got to be punished.

759
00:25:45,780 --> 00:25:46,620
Yeah.

760
00:25:46,620 --> 00:25:47,460
Yeah.

761
00:25:47,460 --> 00:25:48,300
For benefiting.

762
00:25:48,300 --> 00:25:49,380
Lubin, Lubin, you were fun.

763
00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:50,220
We'll talk about Ramos too.

764
00:25:50,220 --> 00:25:52,060
You were fun as, you were fun to watch

765
00:25:52,060 --> 00:25:54,380
in the last era your time has come.

766
00:25:54,380 --> 00:25:56,740
All right, let's move on from Virgil

767
00:25:56,740 --> 00:26:01,740
to Ague Caballel, KO6 over G. Lay Zhang.

768
00:26:02,100 --> 00:26:04,220
I don't know what Caballel's theme song is

769
00:26:04,220 --> 00:26:06,340
so I'm gonna play the Joe Joyce one.

770
00:26:06,340 --> 00:26:07,580
Gonna cut it in right here.

771
00:26:08,900 --> 00:26:13,940
Cause man, Big Bang, very small bang.

772
00:26:13,940 --> 00:26:15,060
He got the knockdown.

773
00:26:15,060 --> 00:26:16,580
I think that was in round three.

774
00:26:16,580 --> 00:26:17,420
And that was it.

775
00:26:17,420 --> 00:26:19,940
I was worried, legitimately worried

776
00:26:19,940 --> 00:26:21,660
as I was really pulling for Caballel.

777
00:26:21,660 --> 00:26:24,300
I've been pulling for Caballel for a while.

778
00:26:24,300 --> 00:26:27,380
So I'm really happy to see the way this turned out.

779
00:26:27,380 --> 00:26:29,620
Is it bad that like, I really don't think

780
00:26:29,620 --> 00:26:30,940
this was like unexpected.

781
00:26:30,940 --> 00:26:33,100
Like, if I closed my eyes and thought

782
00:26:33,100 --> 00:26:34,820
of this matchup beforehand, I'd be like,

783
00:26:34,820 --> 00:26:36,420
yeah, it's about right.

784
00:26:36,420 --> 00:26:40,060
Caballel gets knocked down and then Zhang's body shuts down.

785
00:26:40,060 --> 00:26:43,900
No, I think you had a good intuition.

786
00:26:43,900 --> 00:26:46,260
Yeah, cause like Zhang, like remember his draw

787
00:26:46,260 --> 00:26:49,100
with Jerry Forrest where like he literally almost died.

788
00:26:49,100 --> 00:26:52,020
Like if Zhang is ever, like was ever gonna get stopped,

789
00:26:52,020 --> 00:26:54,940
it was gonna be on like a conditioning

790
00:26:54,940 --> 00:26:57,900
in like second, second ish half.

791
00:26:57,900 --> 00:26:59,460
And it was gonna be to the body.

792
00:26:59,460 --> 00:27:02,460
Yeah, that was probably the most valid way

793
00:27:02,460 --> 00:27:04,180
of knocking out Big Bang Zhang.

794
00:27:04,180 --> 00:27:07,700
It's not even via the knockup via the head.

795
00:27:07,700 --> 00:27:08,900
It was out of the body,

796
00:27:08,900 --> 00:27:10,780
just so it could make him a dick in the, you know.

797
00:27:10,780 --> 00:27:13,820
I think Alex, last time when we talked,

798
00:27:13,820 --> 00:27:14,980
when we were previewing it,

799
00:27:14,980 --> 00:27:18,820
you had mentioned Zhang and Killer Instinct.

800
00:27:18,820 --> 00:27:22,060
And I feel like the Killer Instinct failed him again,

801
00:27:22,060 --> 00:27:25,460
cause he had the knockup and Caballel was in trouble,

802
00:27:25,460 --> 00:27:27,540
but he didn't press the issue.

803
00:27:27,540 --> 00:27:28,380
He didn't press the issue.

804
00:27:28,380 --> 00:27:30,420
He let him get away with it pretty much.

805
00:27:30,420 --> 00:27:34,180
I don't understand why he keeps doing this.

806
00:27:34,180 --> 00:27:37,140
Honestly, I don't understand why I took that.

807
00:27:37,140 --> 00:27:38,660
I don't know why I had the thing, honestly.

808
00:27:38,660 --> 00:27:40,140
I should have realized that I was too high

809
00:27:40,140 --> 00:27:41,900
on the Zhang supply, in my opinion.

810
00:27:41,900 --> 00:27:44,100
It's just like a gas thing.

811
00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:45,820
Cause like you see with Joyce,

812
00:27:45,820 --> 00:27:48,380
with Joyce caught him so deep, but on these,

813
00:27:48,380 --> 00:27:50,100
like even Parker and stuff,

814
00:27:50,100 --> 00:27:53,540
he doesn't catch them that deep or that clean.

815
00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:54,380
Yeah.

816
00:27:54,380 --> 00:27:56,500
Like he's a very single shot guy.

817
00:27:58,420 --> 00:28:01,460
The thing with looking for a big bang.

818
00:28:01,460 --> 00:28:02,460
Yeah. Yeah.

819
00:28:04,500 --> 00:28:07,180
His legs just can't carry him any further.

820
00:28:07,180 --> 00:28:09,580
That's 41 year old man.

821
00:28:09,580 --> 00:28:14,580
I mean, George Horman is not, wasn't the most limber,

822
00:28:14,660 --> 00:28:17,060
like he was in the seventies when he like rumble

823
00:28:17,060 --> 00:28:18,460
in the jungle.

824
00:28:18,460 --> 00:28:21,860
It didn't make me sad to see Big Bang Zhang

825
00:28:21,860 --> 00:28:23,500
get knocked out like that though.

826
00:28:23,500 --> 00:28:24,340
It was pretty sad.

827
00:28:24,340 --> 00:28:26,460
I think he's still gonna be in the mix with these fights.

828
00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:27,300
Yeah, absolutely.

829
00:28:27,300 --> 00:28:28,140
Sure.

830
00:28:28,140 --> 00:28:28,980
We'll talk about it later,

831
00:28:28,980 --> 00:28:30,300
but I do want to see him with a certain fighter

832
00:28:30,300 --> 00:28:31,740
we're talking about in a bit.

833
00:28:31,740 --> 00:28:33,940
Coming up. Oh yeah.

834
00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:35,460
Honestly, I think about you.

835
00:28:35,460 --> 00:28:36,820
I want to see him.

836
00:28:36,820 --> 00:28:39,380
I kind of want to see him get a title shot now.

837
00:28:39,380 --> 00:28:40,500
Is that crazy to say that?

838
00:28:40,500 --> 00:28:41,780
I want to see him fight.

839
00:28:41,780 --> 00:28:44,420
He has an interim title now.

840
00:28:44,420 --> 00:28:45,780
I don't want to see him fight Lusik.

841
00:28:45,780 --> 00:28:48,020
Cause like, I feel like, like Lusik,

842
00:28:48,020 --> 00:28:52,940
like the way Caboil sets up his body attack is that like,

843
00:28:52,940 --> 00:28:54,140
just the way he does it,

844
00:28:55,060 --> 00:28:58,940
anyone with more speed than like the average heavyweight

845
00:28:58,940 --> 00:29:00,460
is going to feast on that.

846
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:03,180
Sad to say.

847
00:29:03,180 --> 00:29:04,020
For sure.

848
00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:04,860
Yeah, you're right.

849
00:29:04,860 --> 00:29:06,540
You're right. You're right. You're right.

850
00:29:06,540 --> 00:29:08,860
It's gotta be later when Lusik's gone.

851
00:29:09,780 --> 00:29:11,500
Yeah. Yeah. Maybe Dubois.

852
00:29:11,500 --> 00:29:13,700
It's not gonna be long before Lusik's out.

853
00:29:13,700 --> 00:29:17,220
No, like Lusik's around, Lusik's two and done, right?

854
00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:18,740
I believe so.

855
00:29:18,740 --> 00:29:19,700
Yeah.

856
00:29:19,700 --> 00:29:21,180
He got two more left in him?

857
00:29:21,180 --> 00:29:22,860
That's what he says.

858
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:23,900
Interesting.

859
00:29:23,900 --> 00:29:25,140
Maybe you could say fucking, you could fight,

860
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:26,940
you could fight Big Bang Zhang.

861
00:29:26,940 --> 00:29:31,380
Honestly, if Zhang kind of did knock out Caboil,

862
00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:34,020
he would be the mandatory for Lusik.

863
00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:34,860
For Lusik.

864
00:29:34,860 --> 00:29:38,340
Yeah. I mean, that, that would have been like a,

865
00:29:38,340 --> 00:29:40,020
that would have been a weird timeline, huh?

866
00:29:40,020 --> 00:29:41,980
I think Zhang actually suffers heat stroke

867
00:29:41,980 --> 00:29:43,940
and dies in that fight.

868
00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:44,940
Yeah, probably.

869
00:29:44,940 --> 00:29:46,620
He fucking dies.

870
00:29:49,540 --> 00:29:51,620
Honestly, that was, that was kind of an interesting take

871
00:29:51,620 --> 00:29:54,660
for my part, but it's okay.

872
00:29:54,660 --> 00:29:56,060
I got to get back anyways.

873
00:29:56,060 --> 00:29:57,180
That wasn't that important.

874
00:29:57,180 --> 00:29:58,700
That one wasn't too crazy.

875
00:29:58,700 --> 00:29:59,540
Yeah.

876
00:29:59,540 --> 00:30:02,060
But we'll talk about my other one in a bit.

877
00:30:03,380 --> 00:30:08,140
Now, Shakur Stevenson, TK09 over very late replacement,

878
00:30:08,140 --> 00:30:09,540
Josh Padley.

879
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:14,100
I, this is a, the fight played out similar to Yoshino

880
00:30:14,100 --> 00:30:17,060
in that Stevenson stood right in the pocket

881
00:30:17,060 --> 00:30:21,900
and traded with him, dodged everything pretty much,

882
00:30:21,900 --> 00:30:26,900
but was in the, in the zone, I guess.

883
00:30:26,900 --> 00:30:29,940
And it took him nine fucking rounds.

884
00:30:30,780 --> 00:30:31,740
I, I can't.

885
00:30:31,740 --> 00:30:33,340
Yeah. Nine fucking rounds.

886
00:30:34,940 --> 00:30:37,700
Are we gonna, are you guys gonna call on Shakur

887
00:30:37,700 --> 00:30:39,020
or do you want me to?

888
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:40,020
Go ahead.

889
00:30:40,020 --> 00:30:41,020
Yeah, you kick it off.

890
00:30:41,020 --> 00:30:42,340
What do you got?

891
00:30:42,340 --> 00:30:45,500
The fact he went nine with someone like that,

892
00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:48,420
I mean, I got to give it to Josh Padley.

893
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:49,780
In my eyes, he won the fight.

894
00:30:49,780 --> 00:30:50,620
I don't care what you all say.

895
00:30:50,620 --> 00:30:52,580
He won the story of the fight.

896
00:30:52,580 --> 00:30:55,980
He won the story of the fight and what, on a day notice

897
00:30:55,980 --> 00:30:57,260
or two day notice?

898
00:30:57,260 --> 00:30:58,620
Yep.

899
00:30:58,620 --> 00:31:00,020
He did the best he could have done.

900
00:31:00,020 --> 00:31:01,180
Okay.

901
00:31:01,180 --> 00:31:04,460
And what, look, the way that Shakur Stevenson fought that,

902
00:31:04,460 --> 00:31:06,380
I think he kind of injured his hand

903
00:31:06,380 --> 00:31:07,660
in the middle of the fight, right?

904
00:31:07,660 --> 00:31:09,740
He says he did, probably.

905
00:31:09,740 --> 00:31:12,900
He always says he always says he did though.

906
00:31:12,900 --> 00:31:16,940
Look, look, I think, hold up, hold up, hold up, hold up.

907
00:31:16,940 --> 00:31:18,940
I think if Floyd Schofield was fighting him,

908
00:31:18,940 --> 00:31:20,340
hold up, hold up, hold up.

909
00:31:20,340 --> 00:31:22,860
If Floyd Schofield was fighting him,

910
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,060
I think Floyd Schofield could have won that fight.

911
00:31:25,060 --> 00:31:26,060
I'm sorry.

912
00:31:26,060 --> 00:31:26,900
I'm sorry.

913
00:31:26,900 --> 00:31:28,860
That version of Shakur?

914
00:31:28,860 --> 00:31:30,180
Yeah.

915
00:31:30,180 --> 00:31:33,420
Yeah, but we know that version isn't showing up against

916
00:31:33,420 --> 00:31:34,300
Schofield.

917
00:31:34,300 --> 00:31:36,740
Schofield, like Schofield's a legitimate threat.

918
00:31:36,740 --> 00:31:37,660
It's a different guy.

919
00:31:37,660 --> 00:31:39,700
You get a Rigo Classic.

920
00:31:39,700 --> 00:31:41,260
Yeah, there you go.

921
00:31:41,260 --> 00:31:43,060
But he didn't, unfortunately.

922
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:45,580
You guys believe the rumors with Schofield?

923
00:31:45,580 --> 00:31:48,260
That he was, not a poison.

924
00:31:48,260 --> 00:31:49,100
Not a poison.

925
00:31:49,100 --> 00:31:49,940
Poison.

926
00:31:49,940 --> 00:31:51,180
I didn't get, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

927
00:31:51,180 --> 00:31:52,260
Okay, I don't believe that.

928
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:54,300
I do think he got sick though.

929
00:31:54,300 --> 00:31:55,140
Oh, absolutely.

930
00:31:55,140 --> 00:31:56,620
Like the, like, you know,

931
00:31:56,620 --> 00:31:57,740
your boy also got sick.

932
00:31:57,740 --> 00:32:00,980
Like that was just like, like definitely one guy had a cold

933
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:03,260
and then one of those dumb ass press events,

934
00:32:03,260 --> 00:32:05,620
Turkey did spread around the illness.

935
00:32:05,620 --> 00:32:08,780
Honestly, I think that happened when they did that,

936
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:10,260
the way they sat in the ring

937
00:32:10,260 --> 00:32:12,620
with that awful ass fucking interview.

938
00:32:12,620 --> 00:32:14,220
That, I think that's when they got it.

939
00:32:14,220 --> 00:32:15,060
Yeah.

940
00:32:15,060 --> 00:32:16,940
I was so scared for this whole card

941
00:32:16,940 --> 00:32:20,380
because when Schofield fell through

942
00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:21,940
and then Dubois fell through,

943
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:24,100
I thought everybody else was gonna start falling.

944
00:32:24,100 --> 00:32:25,060
Especially BetterBF.

945
00:32:25,060 --> 00:32:26,340
BetterBF who's a-

946
00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:27,660
Fragile old man.

947
00:32:27,660 --> 00:32:28,500
Oh yeah.

948
00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:29,340
Yeah.

949
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:30,900
I got scared for that.

950
00:32:30,900 --> 00:32:31,740
That was a big one.

951
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:34,980
That, like, honestly, the people saying that

952
00:32:34,980 --> 00:32:37,660
Shakur poisoned Schofield is so funny.

953
00:32:37,660 --> 00:32:38,980
Cause I'm like, yeah,

954
00:32:38,980 --> 00:32:40,740
Shakur totally poisoned him

955
00:32:40,740 --> 00:32:44,340
so he could look like shit against an electrician.

956
00:32:44,340 --> 00:32:45,220
Yeah.

957
00:32:45,220 --> 00:32:46,500
The fix was in.

958
00:32:48,300 --> 00:32:50,060
The blue collar bomber.

959
00:32:50,900 --> 00:32:51,860
Oh, I love that.

960
00:32:51,860 --> 00:32:52,700
I love that.

961
00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:53,540
Yeah.

962
00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:57,500
Nah, like honestly, Josh Padley, credit to him.

963
00:32:57,500 --> 00:33:00,940
He went out there, exerted himself probably less

964
00:33:00,940 --> 00:33:03,780
than at his average shift that is an electrician

965
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:07,500
and got to retire from it and actually follow his dream.

966
00:33:07,500 --> 00:33:08,340
Yeah.

967
00:33:08,340 --> 00:33:09,180
And you know what?

968
00:33:09,180 --> 00:33:11,100
Shakur, not only did he fight Shakur,

969
00:33:11,100 --> 00:33:12,540
he got to deal with Matchroom.

970
00:33:12,540 --> 00:33:13,380
Yep, he did.

971
00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:14,220
Oh, he won.

972
00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:15,300
He won.

973
00:33:15,300 --> 00:33:17,060
Like he's totally getting paid.

974
00:33:17,060 --> 00:33:19,660
He might just get a rematch with Shakur in the future.

975
00:33:19,660 --> 00:33:20,780
No.

976
00:33:20,780 --> 00:33:21,700
I hope not.

977
00:33:22,780 --> 00:33:23,940
Yeah.

978
00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:25,300
Fuck yeah, I wanna see that.

979
00:33:25,300 --> 00:33:26,540
I kinda do wanna see it.

980
00:33:26,540 --> 00:33:28,420
Padley seeing he signed with Matchroom

981
00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:31,020
only to cease fighting a unknown Mexican

982
00:33:31,020 --> 00:33:34,340
with a 22, four and one record.

983
00:33:34,340 --> 00:33:36,900
22 with 20 knockouts.

984
00:33:36,900 --> 00:33:38,460
20 knockouts.

985
00:33:38,460 --> 00:33:40,660
Nickname is some kind of animal.

986
00:33:41,780 --> 00:33:42,620
Tiger.

987
00:33:42,620 --> 00:33:43,460
Tiger, I don't know.

988
00:33:43,460 --> 00:33:44,540
Tiger, yeah.

989
00:33:45,940 --> 00:33:50,620
But do you guys agree with my take

990
00:33:50,620 --> 00:33:52,300
about how Schofield could have beat him,

991
00:33:52,300 --> 00:33:54,060
that Shakur that night?

992
00:33:54,060 --> 00:33:57,140
The Stevenson that showed up versus Padley, probably.

993
00:33:57,140 --> 00:33:58,460
Yes.

994
00:33:58,460 --> 00:33:59,300
Thank you, thank you.

995
00:33:59,300 --> 00:34:01,700
Okay, I'm cool with that, I'm cool with that.

996
00:34:01,700 --> 00:34:02,860
Yeah.

997
00:34:02,860 --> 00:34:03,860
All right.

998
00:34:03,860 --> 00:34:06,260
Now we're gonna give you another chance to shine here.

999
00:34:06,260 --> 00:34:07,700
Carlos Adamas. Oh my God.

1000
00:34:07,700 --> 00:34:10,220
Split draw, Hamza Shiraz.

1001
00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:13,260
I was pulling for Shiraz.

1002
00:34:13,260 --> 00:34:14,100
We talked about that.

1003
00:34:14,100 --> 00:34:17,100
I am actually, this is very disappointing for Shiraz.

1004
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,220
That was dog shit from Shiraz.

1005
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:22,340
That was a dog shit performance.

1006
00:34:22,340 --> 00:34:24,380
Carlos Adamas fucking won.

1007
00:34:24,380 --> 00:34:27,100
There's no question in my mind about it.

1008
00:34:27,100 --> 00:34:28,100
All right. Yeah.

1009
00:34:28,100 --> 00:34:29,940
There you go, go off.

1010
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:30,780
Okay, dude.

1011
00:34:30,780 --> 00:34:31,700
Hold up.

1012
00:34:31,700 --> 00:34:33,860
Respectfully, respectfully.

1013
00:34:33,860 --> 00:34:35,180
Fuck y'all. Oh no.

1014
00:34:35,180 --> 00:34:37,540
Fuck y'all, I knew, I know, I knew.

1015
00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:39,460
I knew Carlos Adamas was gonna win.

1016
00:34:39,460 --> 00:34:40,820
And they fucking robbed him.

1017
00:34:40,820 --> 00:34:42,460
They fucking robbed the guy.

1018
00:34:42,460 --> 00:34:43,300
Robbed.

1019
00:34:43,300 --> 00:34:46,620
He went to Rio, not Rio, he went to Riyadh

1020
00:34:46,620 --> 00:34:49,300
and fought in a kangaroo core ass fight.

1021
00:34:49,300 --> 00:34:53,060
That was some of the bullshit things I've ever seen.

1022
00:34:53,060 --> 00:34:54,180
Actually, hold up, I don't wanna say,

1023
00:34:54,180 --> 00:34:55,620
I don't wanna spoil it,

1024
00:34:55,620 --> 00:34:58,780
but that was bullshit until recently,

1025
00:34:58,780 --> 00:35:00,660
which we'll talk about next podcast.

1026
00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:04,980
But Carlos Adamas came to Riyadh,

1027
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:09,220
fought fucking, he fought Turkey's lap dog.

1028
00:35:09,220 --> 00:35:10,620
He fought Turkey's lap dog.

1029
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,220
You saw it during the fight, dude.

1030
00:35:12,220 --> 00:35:13,700
You saw in the middle of the fight

1031
00:35:13,700 --> 00:35:16,700
that Turkey went up to Hamza Shiraz's corner

1032
00:35:16,700 --> 00:35:18,820
and told him you're down this, this and that.

1033
00:35:18,820 --> 00:35:20,060
Remember?

1034
00:35:20,060 --> 00:35:24,580
So about that, what I heard is also that

1035
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:28,540
he went to tell Shiraz himself about the scoring

1036
00:35:28,540 --> 00:35:30,940
and he sent someone else to Adamas's corner

1037
00:35:30,940 --> 00:35:32,940
to tell them the scoring.

1038
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:35,820
But people only saw Turkey

1039
00:35:35,820 --> 00:35:39,220
because he's noticeable.

1040
00:35:39,220 --> 00:35:40,060
Oh, okay.

1041
00:35:40,060 --> 00:35:41,060
It's open scoring.

1042
00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:44,260
WBC, they do it all the time.

1043
00:35:44,260 --> 00:35:45,580
So this isn't a surprise.

1044
00:35:45,580 --> 00:35:47,420
Yeah, like, what was it?

1045
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:50,660
Morel is Danny Garcia.

1046
00:35:50,660 --> 00:35:51,980
Canelo Austin Trout.

1047
00:35:51,980 --> 00:35:53,180
It's the same way, yeah.

1048
00:35:53,180 --> 00:35:57,220
As my fault, I thought that it was only Turkey.

1049
00:35:57,220 --> 00:35:58,060
I thought so too.

1050
00:35:58,060 --> 00:36:02,180
But you can blame that on how the zone presents things though.

1051
00:36:02,180 --> 00:36:05,180
That's just always, that's a production error.

1052
00:36:05,180 --> 00:36:09,540
Because they have the ability to just show both corners.

1053
00:36:09,540 --> 00:36:10,380
Yeah.

1054
00:36:10,380 --> 00:36:11,220
Yeah.

1055
00:36:11,220 --> 00:36:12,740
It's just a production problem.

1056
00:36:12,740 --> 00:36:16,620
You could tell that everybody thought Hamza Shiraz lost.

1057
00:36:16,620 --> 00:36:17,980
Okay.

1058
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:22,220
Except, of course, certain person named

1059
00:36:22,220 --> 00:36:24,860
the Turkey, all the sheiks, the fix was them.

1060
00:36:24,860 --> 00:36:26,300
And I'm pissed.

1061
00:36:26,300 --> 00:36:27,700
I was pissed.

1062
00:36:27,700 --> 00:36:28,820
Rightfully so.

1063
00:36:28,820 --> 00:36:31,340
Because I would, Leo, you know,

1064
00:36:31,340 --> 00:36:32,700
you know I chose Carlos Adamas, dude.

1065
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:33,540
Yeah, I know.

1066
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:38,340
And also, to all the fucking people that called in

1067
00:36:38,340 --> 00:36:41,780
and told me I was wrong, okay?

1068
00:36:41,780 --> 00:36:42,900
Y'all are casuals.

1069
00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:45,900
You see how much knowledge they have from that, okay?

1070
00:36:45,900 --> 00:36:47,100
I don't care what y'all say.

1071
00:36:47,100 --> 00:36:48,980
I had that right.

1072
00:36:48,980 --> 00:36:49,820
I had that right.

1073
00:36:49,820 --> 00:36:50,660
All the casuals.

1074
00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:51,980
I'm a fucking casual.

1075
00:36:51,980 --> 00:36:55,660
This is shots fired to my own kind at this point

1076
00:36:55,660 --> 00:36:57,380
because I am actually a casual as well.

1077
00:36:57,380 --> 00:37:02,380
But at the same time, I was right about Carlos Adamas, okay?

1078
00:37:02,740 --> 00:37:04,220
I was right.

1079
00:37:04,220 --> 00:37:05,340
And I'm proud of that.

1080
00:37:05,340 --> 00:37:07,300
I don't care what anybody says to me.

1081
00:37:07,300 --> 00:37:08,140
Yeah, you're right.

1082
00:37:08,140 --> 00:37:08,980
I was right about Carlos Adamas.

1083
00:37:08,980 --> 00:37:09,820
You're right.

1084
00:37:09,820 --> 00:37:10,660
Yeah.

1085
00:37:10,660 --> 00:37:11,500
You were right.

1086
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,340
Thank you.

1087
00:37:12,340 --> 00:37:13,180
Thank you.

1088
00:37:13,180 --> 00:37:16,060
I am so severely disappointed in Hamza Shiraz.

1089
00:37:16,060 --> 00:37:18,740
Having actually watched him, like up to now.

1090
00:37:18,740 --> 00:37:20,260
Yeah, exactly.

1091
00:37:20,260 --> 00:37:22,620
Bam, this guy's game is so flat.

1092
00:37:22,620 --> 00:37:25,620
Do you think he was sick too, like everyone else?

1093
00:37:25,620 --> 00:37:26,460
Maybe?

1094
00:37:26,460 --> 00:37:27,300
No.

1095
00:37:27,300 --> 00:37:28,340
Yeah, actually Adamas poisoned them.

1096
00:37:28,340 --> 00:37:29,500
That's the theory.

1097
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:30,340
Yeah, he's real.

1098
00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:31,180
Yeah, he put him on the floor.

1099
00:37:31,180 --> 00:37:32,580
Real ones know.

1100
00:37:32,580 --> 00:37:34,540
Real eyes, real eyes.

1101
00:37:34,540 --> 00:37:35,380
Yeah.

1102
00:37:37,380 --> 00:37:42,380
He got fucking the poison spell rolled for initiative.

1103
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:45,300
He got a fucking one.

1104
00:37:45,300 --> 00:37:47,460
Sucks to suck, Hamza.

1105
00:37:47,460 --> 00:37:51,060
Perkyu just evening the, thumb on the scales, evening it out.

1106
00:37:51,060 --> 00:37:51,900
Yeah.

1107
00:37:52,780 --> 00:37:55,660
What do you guys think Hamza Shiraz goes from here?

1108
00:37:55,660 --> 00:37:56,900
That is a good question.

1109
00:37:56,900 --> 00:37:57,740
I would say-

1110
00:37:57,740 --> 00:37:58,780
Hopefully a rematch.

1111
00:37:58,780 --> 00:37:59,620
They should do that again.

1112
00:37:59,620 --> 00:38:01,140
They'll run it back.

1113
00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:02,300
I do not wanna see, fuck it.

1114
00:38:02,300 --> 00:38:05,140
I don't wanna see Hamza Shiraz near a title shot.

1115
00:38:05,140 --> 00:38:08,980
Hey, I honestly, hey, honestly, this is a bit of a karmic

1116
00:38:08,980 --> 00:38:13,300
justice, I'd say, considering you can debate that

1117
00:38:13,300 --> 00:38:18,300
with Adamas Rob Dervichenko back in 2021.

1118
00:38:20,220 --> 00:38:21,700
You can't?

1119
00:38:21,700 --> 00:38:22,540
If you want to?

1120
00:38:22,540 --> 00:38:23,380
You totally can't.

1121
00:38:23,380 --> 00:38:24,500
That was a majority decision.

1122
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:27,860
Like I feel like it was a bit of karmic justice.

1123
00:38:27,860 --> 00:38:31,340
Having no stake in this game other than disappointment.

1124
00:38:31,340 --> 00:38:34,060
I will say, you know what, honestly, you are right.

1125
00:38:34,060 --> 00:38:38,620
But at the same time, Hamza Shiraz is also Turkey's laptop.

1126
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:42,780
This is a whole different ball game compared to that fight.

1127
00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:45,380
They're just muslims, I don't know.

1128
00:38:45,380 --> 00:38:48,420
I don't think they know each other personally or anything.

1129
00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:51,660
Is that sarcasm?

1130
00:38:51,660 --> 00:38:52,500
No.

1131
00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:56,620
You don't think that Turkey stuck his neck out for Hamza?

1132
00:38:56,620 --> 00:38:57,460
Oh, he did.

1133
00:38:57,460 --> 00:38:58,300
I'm not saying he didn't.

1134
00:38:58,300 --> 00:38:59,140
He did.

1135
00:38:59,140 --> 00:39:03,140
No, but for next steps, who in the middleweight division

1136
00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:05,900
do we actually wanna see a fight?

1137
00:39:05,900 --> 00:39:09,460
Like fight, it's such a dead division.

1138
00:39:09,460 --> 00:39:10,420
I wanna see Janubek.

1139
00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:12,820
Janubek is all there is.

1140
00:39:12,820 --> 00:39:15,660
Yeah, Janubek and like,

1141
00:39:15,660 --> 00:39:18,420
everybody's writing Lara in the retirement home.

1142
00:39:18,420 --> 00:39:20,180
I just want Lara's belt.

1143
00:39:20,180 --> 00:39:21,820
He can keep fighting only once.

1144
00:39:21,820 --> 00:39:24,860
Just stop holding that thing hostage, please.

1145
00:39:24,860 --> 00:39:25,700
Well, he's gotta,

1146
00:39:25,700 --> 00:39:28,860
but someone's gotta beat him for it though.

1147
00:39:28,860 --> 00:39:32,500
It's not like he hasn't fought other middleweights.

1148
00:39:32,500 --> 00:39:34,900
Well, you can't be fighting like Moshe Suleki

1149
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:37,860
or Danny Garcia or fucking Shane Mosley Jr.

1150
00:39:37,860 --> 00:39:38,700
and be expecting-

1151
00:39:38,700 --> 00:39:41,500
Like who else is there?

1152
00:39:41,500 --> 00:39:43,380
They can have an in-house unification.

1153
00:39:43,380 --> 00:39:45,820
Yeah, like give me like, yeah, actually.

1154
00:39:45,820 --> 00:39:46,660
That would be a perfect,

1155
00:39:46,660 --> 00:39:48,500
that would be a perfect unification right there.

1156
00:39:48,500 --> 00:39:49,340
It's perfect.

1157
00:39:49,340 --> 00:39:52,300
See the shitty part there though,

1158
00:39:52,300 --> 00:39:55,100
is that I think Lara beats Adamas.

1159
00:39:55,100 --> 00:39:55,940
No.

1160
00:39:55,940 --> 00:39:56,780
No, no, no.

1161
00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:58,340
I think Lara beats Adamas.

1162
00:39:58,340 --> 00:40:00,660
Late stage tomorrow, man.

1163
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:02,420
Late stage Lara hits different.

1164
00:40:03,380 --> 00:40:04,860
No, I think-

1165
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:06,140
He doesn't have the legs to move,

1166
00:40:06,140 --> 00:40:08,580
so he actually has to use his offense now.

1167
00:40:08,580 --> 00:40:09,460
Yep.

1168
00:40:09,460 --> 00:40:11,860
I think Adamas wins that fight.

1169
00:40:11,860 --> 00:40:13,020
I'm not trying to be an Adamas laser,

1170
00:40:13,020 --> 00:40:15,580
because if anything, I'm a Janabek laser,

1171
00:40:15,580 --> 00:40:17,180
but I don't want to see

1172
00:40:17,180 --> 00:40:18,460
here's Lamy Lara versus Janabek,

1173
00:40:18,460 --> 00:40:19,580
that would be boring.

1174
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,260
I don't think so.

1175
00:40:22,260 --> 00:40:23,100
Yeah.

1176
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:26,140
I think Lara, Lara without legs is a-

1177
00:40:26,140 --> 00:40:28,340
Lara isn't boring and hasn't been for a bit.

1178
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:29,900
He just like, he's so old.

1179
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:30,940
He can't move.

1180
00:40:30,940 --> 00:40:31,780
He can't run over.

1181
00:40:31,780 --> 00:40:32,620
He's not used to it.

1182
00:40:32,620 --> 00:40:33,460
It's not from, no,

1183
00:40:33,460 --> 00:40:35,380
I'm not saying it's boring from Lara's part.

1184
00:40:35,380 --> 00:40:38,700
It would be boring from Janabek's part.

1185
00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:41,740
Has Janabek really showed that much of a ceiling though?

1186
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:44,660
Like I don't, no, no fault of his own.

1187
00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:46,980
Middleweight kind of stinks.

1188
00:40:46,980 --> 00:40:47,820
Yeah, it's not his fault.

1189
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:49,500
But he did, he did come up

1190
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,700
under the top rank protection program.

1191
00:40:51,700 --> 00:40:53,100
Yeah.

1192
00:40:53,100 --> 00:40:53,940
That's true.

1193
00:40:54,900 --> 00:40:56,060
Honestly, you know what?

1194
00:40:56,060 --> 00:40:57,300
You can hate me for this.

1195
00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:01,580
I kind of, I kind of want to see Janabek versus Canelo.

1196
00:41:01,580 --> 00:41:02,420
I do.

1197
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:04,180
I said that a while ago.

1198
00:41:04,180 --> 00:41:05,020
Yeah.

1199
00:41:05,020 --> 00:41:05,860
Yeah, he's better.

1200
00:41:05,860 --> 00:41:06,700
He's better.

1201
00:41:06,700 --> 00:41:09,140
He's better than, yeah.

1202
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:11,300
He's got power.

1203
00:41:11,300 --> 00:41:12,140
He's got power.

1204
00:41:12,140 --> 00:41:13,300
He's got, he's got good boxing skill.

1205
00:41:13,300 --> 00:41:15,940
I think that could, that could really kind of throw Canelo,

1206
00:41:16,940 --> 00:41:17,780
throw Canelo on the wind.

1207
00:41:17,780 --> 00:41:21,620
That's exactly why he's not gonna fight him fucking ever.

1208
00:41:21,620 --> 00:41:22,460
Yeah, exactly.

1209
00:41:22,460 --> 00:41:23,780
That's why he's never really getting any fights ever.

1210
00:41:23,780 --> 00:41:25,860
Saul de Nero Alvarez.

1211
00:41:27,860 --> 00:41:30,980
Payday, payday, you won payday.

1212
00:41:30,980 --> 00:41:34,540
Bottom line, dude, I'll take this dub.

1213
00:41:34,540 --> 00:41:35,380
Yeah.

1214
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:39,380
Even though it was a draw on paper, he still won a mice.

1215
00:41:39,380 --> 00:41:42,100
I think one never else is coming up too.

1216
00:41:42,100 --> 00:41:42,940
Oh yeah.

1217
00:41:42,940 --> 00:41:44,260
Well, that was a little more technical,

1218
00:41:44,260 --> 00:41:46,260
but I'll talk about that next week.

1219
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:48,220
More draws.

1220
00:41:48,220 --> 00:41:49,380
All right, moving up.

1221
00:41:49,380 --> 00:41:54,260
Joseph fucking Parker, just Mercs, Martin Bacoli.

1222
00:41:54,260 --> 00:41:56,220
Bacoli came in on a few days notice,

1223
00:41:56,220 --> 00:41:58,180
like just like Josh Padley did.

1224
00:41:58,180 --> 00:42:03,180
So 315 pound African fellow coming from the Congo

1225
00:42:03,180 --> 00:42:05,740
coming out of nowhere.

1226
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,820
He's a, they keep, they kept calling him

1227
00:42:08,820 --> 00:42:10,420
the dark horse of heavyweight.

1228
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:15,180
I absolutely agree with that, but let's not, I don't know.

1229
00:42:15,180 --> 00:42:16,980
I think we're putting too much stock

1230
00:42:16,980 --> 00:42:18,940
in this win for Joseph Parker.

1231
00:42:18,940 --> 00:42:21,260
Like Bacoli is a guy who very clearly

1232
00:42:21,260 --> 00:42:24,620
and always has never trained outside of camp.

1233
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:27,540
The only rounds he's doing

1234
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:29,420
if he doesn't have a fight scheduled

1235
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:33,180
are at the buffet with Dan Raphael.

1236
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,740
This guy is not training.

1237
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:37,340
This guy like rolled off the couch

1238
00:42:37,340 --> 00:42:39,820
and cashed like probably eight on the plane.

1239
00:42:41,900 --> 00:42:45,540
Well, honestly, you gotta give respect to Bacoli dude.

1240
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:46,580
He took the spot.

1241
00:42:46,580 --> 00:42:47,940
Yeah, he stepped in.

1242
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:50,220
The fight was gonna get canceled, but he stepped in.

1243
00:42:50,220 --> 00:42:51,500
Yeah, absolutely.

1244
00:42:51,500 --> 00:42:54,660
How many people do you think, and also kind of like.

1245
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:56,500
He torpedoed his ranking.

1246
00:42:56,500 --> 00:42:59,300
Yeah, like higher, higher, higher rankings, you know,

1247
00:42:59,300 --> 00:43:00,340
would go and do that.

1248
00:43:00,340 --> 00:43:05,180
I don't think I really, anybody's done that in boxing.

1249
00:43:05,180 --> 00:43:06,900
I don't even know how long ago.

1250
00:43:06,900 --> 00:43:07,740
Like respect.

1251
00:43:07,740 --> 00:43:08,780
I don't think Pacquiao did it,

1252
00:43:08,780 --> 00:43:11,660
but that was the last time I remember that.

1253
00:43:11,660 --> 00:43:15,180
How I feel about Parker has not changed though.

1254
00:43:15,180 --> 00:43:17,860
No, yeah, that's the only way to put it.

1255
00:43:17,860 --> 00:43:21,020
I also don't think any differently about Bacoli either.

1256
00:43:21,020 --> 00:43:23,340
Yeah, I don't look at him too negatively.

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The Bevil majority decision over Archer Better Biev.

1322
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,500
I am of the mind, even though I feel

1323
00:46:12,500 --> 00:46:14,380
Better Biev won the first, or not Better Biev,

1324
00:46:14,380 --> 00:46:16,380
Bevil won the first fight.

1325
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:18,500
I feel Bevil won this one too,

1326
00:46:18,500 --> 00:46:22,360
but they wanted to set up the trilogy.

1327
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,500
I feel like they're pretty good.

1328
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:29,100
This fight, this fight is how the first one should've gone.

1329
00:46:29,100 --> 00:46:32,340
It should not have taken Bevil 24 rounds

1330
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:38,800
to get the, like, to figure out

1331
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:41,660
like the ghost of Better Biev.

1332
00:46:41,660 --> 00:46:43,420
Remember Leo, when we were talking last week

1333
00:46:43,420 --> 00:46:46,900
about how we didn't think Bevil could fight

1334
00:46:46,900 --> 00:46:48,220
a more perfect fight,

1335
00:46:48,220 --> 00:46:49,740
like he already fought the perfect fight?

1336
00:46:49,740 --> 00:46:51,060
Yeah.

1337
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:53,580
I didn't think it was possible to be wrong about that,

1338
00:46:53,580 --> 00:46:54,540
but we were wrong.

1339
00:46:55,500 --> 00:46:57,740
I think Bevil fought an even better fight

1340
00:46:57,740 --> 00:46:58,860
than the first time.

1341
00:46:58,860 --> 00:47:01,540
He won this one more definitively.

1342
00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:03,220
Oh yeah, for sure.

1343
00:47:03,220 --> 00:47:04,760
And you know what?

1344
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,940
The rules were flipped, where Bevil,

1345
00:47:07,940 --> 00:47:11,180
Bevil came all out past the sixth round, right?

1346
00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:14,020
But he kind of played possum for the first six,

1347
00:47:14,020 --> 00:47:17,700
the latter half of the fight, he just gave it his all.

1348
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,740
Well, it's not a defect that Bevil has,

1349
00:47:20,740 --> 00:47:21,660
because he has his style,

1350
00:47:21,660 --> 00:47:24,460
but he's always just never put on, like,

1351
00:47:24,460 --> 00:47:26,180
like against an opponent,

1352
00:47:26,180 --> 00:47:27,340
like, see, didn't, like,

1353
00:47:27,340 --> 00:47:29,580
it's just a lack of like an exclamation mark

1354
00:47:31,140 --> 00:47:32,500
when it matters.

1355
00:47:32,500 --> 00:47:34,700
Cause like, yeah, you can shoe shine,

1356
00:47:34,700 --> 00:47:36,560
like Joe Smith in the 12th round

1357
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,620
of a match you've 12-0'd him for,

1358
00:47:38,620 --> 00:47:41,400
but like, there's just a lack of urgency

1359
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:43,100
that's shown up sometimes.

1360
00:47:43,980 --> 00:47:45,580
Like you're telling me that Craig Richards

1361
00:47:45,580 --> 00:47:48,220
really belonged in there with him for 12?

1362
00:47:48,220 --> 00:47:49,060
I don't know.

1363
00:47:49,060 --> 00:47:51,180
But he's a boxing robot.

1364
00:47:51,180 --> 00:47:54,140
You program him with the game plan.

1365
00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:55,660
That's what he does.

1366
00:47:55,660 --> 00:47:56,500
Oh, absolutely.

1367
00:47:56,500 --> 00:47:59,180
I'm not saying there's anything super wrong with it,

1368
00:47:59,180 --> 00:48:00,020
but just-

1369
00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:02,060
It's a feature, it's not a bug.

1370
00:48:02,060 --> 00:48:05,700
Yeah, but with there, like in terms of like,

1371
00:48:05,700 --> 00:48:06,700
when you're in, like,

1372
00:48:06,700 --> 00:48:08,780
with the elite, elite opponents of your career,

1373
00:48:08,780 --> 00:48:13,260
you just need that exclamation mark over a round.

1374
00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:14,580
A fire round.

1375
00:48:14,580 --> 00:48:16,620
We're gonna talk about this with our,

1376
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:19,860
in the next podcast, we're like specifically like,

1377
00:48:20,740 --> 00:48:24,260
I'm gonna talk about like the need for an exclamation mark.

1378
00:48:24,260 --> 00:48:25,100
Yeah.

1379
00:48:25,100 --> 00:48:26,660
A fire.

1380
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:31,660
We have the benefit of every camera view possible.

1381
00:48:32,340 --> 00:48:35,540
These judges sit on one side of the ring

1382
00:48:35,540 --> 00:48:39,260
and like sometimes you don't see the finer work,

1383
00:48:39,260 --> 00:48:40,840
which is why the exclamation mark,

1384
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,420
even if it's not as effective as your other work,

1385
00:48:43,420 --> 00:48:45,100
it's just needed.

1386
00:48:45,100 --> 00:48:46,980
So all the judges see it.

1387
00:48:46,980 --> 00:48:49,220
I think better be of should, is it about time?

1388
00:48:49,220 --> 00:48:52,380
He's gonna do the trilogy, of course,

1389
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:55,340
but after that, is there anything?

1390
00:48:55,340 --> 00:48:56,180
No, that's it.

1391
00:48:56,180 --> 00:48:58,700
There's nothing for him to do.

1392
00:48:58,700 --> 00:48:59,540
This-

1393
00:48:59,540 --> 00:49:00,620
I don't want to see trilogy.

1394
00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:01,860
I don't either.

1395
00:49:01,860 --> 00:49:04,180
To be fair, these fights are good, good enough that like,

1396
00:49:04,180 --> 00:49:06,620
I could watch these guys fight each other every four months

1397
00:49:06,620 --> 00:49:08,540
and keep flipping the result.

1398
00:49:08,540 --> 00:49:09,500
For sure.

1399
00:49:09,500 --> 00:49:13,340
Like, I just think like,

1400
00:49:13,340 --> 00:49:16,020
do one more just so that way you have like,

1401
00:49:16,020 --> 00:49:18,820
Bival can really stamp a unanimous decision.

1402
00:49:20,940 --> 00:49:22,140
And like we get,

1403
00:49:22,140 --> 00:49:24,620
cause Bival improved throughout these fights

1404
00:49:24,620 --> 00:49:25,580
as they went on.

1405
00:49:26,420 --> 00:49:29,540
We get like a real peak Bival that he,

1406
00:49:29,540 --> 00:49:32,060
like a level that he hopefully stays at

1407
00:49:32,060 --> 00:49:35,220
and then better be of can just like retire having

1408
00:49:36,900 --> 00:49:40,220
only fallen short against the absolute best of the era.

1409
00:49:40,220 --> 00:49:43,460
The thing is, Bival won two times.

1410
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:45,340
I don't need to see a third.

1411
00:49:45,340 --> 00:49:46,220
And the thing is that,

1412
00:49:46,220 --> 00:49:48,220
what if better be does win third?

1413
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:49,340
What happens?

1414
00:49:49,340 --> 00:49:50,860
Do you have to do a fourth?

1415
00:49:50,860 --> 00:49:53,700
No, I wouldn't mind it either,

1416
00:49:53,700 --> 00:49:56,580
but I think that they would call it-

1417
00:49:56,580 --> 00:49:58,180
It needs to be decisive though.

1418
00:49:58,180 --> 00:49:59,380
That's the thing.

1419
00:49:59,380 --> 00:50:02,860
Like if better be of catches him, stops him,

1420
00:50:02,860 --> 00:50:04,620
it like say what you will about,

1421
00:50:04,620 --> 00:50:08,860
yeah, 36 rounds for one punch, but it is what it is.

1422
00:50:08,860 --> 00:50:10,420
It's decisive.

1423
00:50:10,420 --> 00:50:11,260
Pacquiao, Marquez.

1424
00:50:11,260 --> 00:50:12,740
I would get-

1425
00:50:12,740 --> 00:50:14,580
I liked, I really liked this fight.

1426
00:50:14,580 --> 00:50:16,740
In all fairness, Marquez,

1427
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:19,180
if it wasn't for like the 6 million knockdowns

1428
00:50:19,180 --> 00:50:20,780
in the first round of their first fight,

1429
00:50:20,780 --> 00:50:22,900
Marquez totally owned him.

1430
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:26,500
Marquez just had his number.

1431
00:50:26,500 --> 00:50:27,340
It's true.

1432
00:50:27,340 --> 00:50:28,580
It's true.

1433
00:50:28,580 --> 00:50:32,060
And I think with Bival better be of,

1434
00:50:32,060 --> 00:50:34,860
I just want to see Benavides get a title shot.

1435
00:50:34,860 --> 00:50:35,700
Please.

1436
00:50:35,700 --> 00:50:36,540
That's it.

1437
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:37,380
That's it.

1438
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:41,860
He's been sidelined his whole career besides the-

1439
00:50:41,860 --> 00:50:43,820
Well, it's his own fault though.

1440
00:50:43,820 --> 00:50:46,140
Like 168, it was his own fault.

1441
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:47,460
It was his own fault.

1442
00:50:47,460 --> 00:50:50,900
He got stripped twice for things that were his fault.

1443
00:50:50,900 --> 00:50:51,940
Yeah, but you know what?

1444
00:50:51,940 --> 00:50:53,260
He had a comeback, dude.

1445
00:50:53,260 --> 00:50:55,740
He came back and he was healthy.

1446
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:57,700
I think he deserved it.

1447
00:50:57,700 --> 00:51:00,340
You fumbled two shots at a Canelo payday

1448
00:51:00,340 --> 00:51:02,100
because Canelo at that point in time

1449
00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:03,860
was just going to go for the titles.

1450
00:51:03,860 --> 00:51:08,860
Well, was Canelo, did he get vacated?

1451
00:51:08,860 --> 00:51:11,500
He had the W title.

1452
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:16,500
He missed the weight once and then popped for cocaine once.

1453
00:51:16,500 --> 00:51:18,180
Well, the thing is for that,

1454
00:51:18,180 --> 00:51:20,940
was that during Canelo's 168 run or was that before?

1455
00:51:23,220 --> 00:51:25,620
The cocaine was at the start of it.

1456
00:51:26,660 --> 00:51:30,180
Bringing it back to light heavyweight real quick.

1457
00:51:30,180 --> 00:51:32,900
So we can wrap up this portion.

1458
00:51:32,900 --> 00:51:37,900
We got fucking, so the rematch is next, unfortunately.

1459
00:51:41,740 --> 00:51:43,260
Would you call it the three match?

1460
00:51:43,260 --> 00:51:44,260
I like that one.

1461
00:51:49,900 --> 00:51:50,740
I think-

1462
00:51:50,740 --> 00:51:52,540
Repeat, repeat or revenge.

1463
00:51:53,980 --> 00:51:58,980
I think a good holding fight is Callum Smith

1464
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:03,980
versus Benavides, they're both mandatories.

1465
00:52:04,860 --> 00:52:07,860
I don't think that goes well for Callum Smith

1466
00:52:07,860 --> 00:52:09,660
and he probably wouldn't take it

1467
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:12,540
like when he could just wait and get a title shot.

1468
00:52:12,540 --> 00:52:16,100
Oh, he gets his ass beat so bad.

1469
00:52:16,100 --> 00:52:17,420
Yeah, I just want Benavides

1470
00:52:17,420 --> 00:52:20,300
to be the undisputed mandatory challenger.

1471
00:52:23,220 --> 00:52:24,060
Why?

1472
00:52:24,060 --> 00:52:25,020
You can stick Boatsy Kvostik.

1473
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:26,860
You can make that a light heavyweight bonanza

1474
00:52:26,860 --> 00:52:30,540
because you do Boatsy Kvostik, you do Morel Yard.

1475
00:52:30,540 --> 00:52:33,220
I do not want to see Benavides become the first

1476
00:52:35,380 --> 00:52:39,140
undisputed interim light heavyweight title holder.

1477
00:52:39,140 --> 00:52:41,420
At light heavyweight, of course.

1478
00:52:41,420 --> 00:52:43,460
Williams of Peta did it at light weight.

1479
00:52:45,940 --> 00:52:47,100
So that's fun.

1480
00:52:47,100 --> 00:52:47,940
Oh yeah.

1481
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:48,940
That would be horrible.

1482
00:52:50,820 --> 00:52:54,500
Be hilarious, but it would be horrible.

1483
00:52:54,500 --> 00:52:56,620
Anything more for the Riyadh card?

1484
00:52:56,620 --> 00:52:57,460
Should we move on?

1485
00:52:59,220 --> 00:53:00,700
That's the best card ever.

1486
00:53:00,700 --> 00:53:01,900
Ever.

1487
00:53:01,900 --> 00:53:03,940
I think that, I just want to say that

1488
00:53:03,940 --> 00:53:08,140
it was a little underwhelming, I'm not gonna lie,

1489
00:53:08,140 --> 00:53:10,260
but on paper it was supposed to be

1490
00:53:10,260 --> 00:53:12,500
the best card of the century.

1491
00:53:12,500 --> 00:53:15,180
Okay, the next one is the best card of the century.

1492
00:53:15,180 --> 00:53:16,020
There you go.

1493
00:53:17,860 --> 00:53:20,380
It's always coming soon, trademark.

1494
00:53:20,380 --> 00:53:24,980
Canelo versus William Skull, a fan favorite.

1495
00:53:24,980 --> 00:53:27,540
No, I was talking about the Arkham Asylum

1496
00:53:27,540 --> 00:53:28,900
in the Times Square.

1497
00:53:29,900 --> 00:53:30,820
Oh, Fatal Fury.

1498
00:53:32,820 --> 00:53:34,860
Fatal Fury is the...

1499
00:53:34,860 --> 00:53:35,700
Versus Ben.

1500
00:53:35,700 --> 00:53:38,900
No, I'm talking about the mental patients at 140

1501
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:41,180
that they're just releasing on Times Square.

1502
00:53:43,580 --> 00:53:46,860
That's gonna be an interesting fight right there.

1503
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:48,860
All right, let me do this really quick.

1504
00:53:50,180 --> 00:53:52,980
All right, that's the separation.

1505
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,660
And moving into previews.

1506
00:53:55,660 --> 00:53:57,780
Not a whole lot going on.

1507
00:53:58,620 --> 00:54:01,700
So I really scraped the bottom of the barrel here.

1508
00:54:01,700 --> 00:54:06,700
In Indio, California, on the zone, Golden Boy Fight Night.

1509
00:54:08,060 --> 00:54:10,620
I don't know who these dudes are.

1510
00:54:10,620 --> 00:54:14,740
Grant Flores versus Laquan Evans, that's the headline.

1511
00:54:14,740 --> 00:54:16,820
There's a Mongolian dude in the co-main

1512
00:54:16,820 --> 00:54:21,380
and Mongolian people are rugged.

1513
00:54:21,380 --> 00:54:24,980
So that's a, if nothing else, tune in for that one,

1514
00:54:24,980 --> 00:54:26,700
at the very least.

1515
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:29,020
But that's on the sixth, Thursday.

1516
00:54:29,020 --> 00:54:32,300
Friday, March 7th, bunch of bullshit.

1517
00:54:34,020 --> 00:54:37,060
Boxer, this one's on Peacock in the US.

1518
00:54:37,060 --> 00:54:38,140
Oh, come on.

1519
00:54:38,140 --> 00:54:40,620
Carolyn DuBois is from The Watch.

1520
00:54:40,620 --> 00:54:43,420
Yes, this one's not actually bullshit.

1521
00:54:43,420 --> 00:54:45,140
Carolyn DuBois is actually from The Watch.

1522
00:54:45,140 --> 00:54:46,540
It's not that terrible.

1523
00:54:46,540 --> 00:54:49,220
Natasha Jonas versus Lauren Price is a headline.

1524
00:54:49,220 --> 00:54:54,220
I believe it's a three belt unification.

1525
00:54:54,420 --> 00:54:55,980
And that should be fun.

1526
00:54:55,980 --> 00:54:58,300
I believe there's a bit of a rivalry there.

1527
00:54:58,300 --> 00:55:00,020
And yeah, Carolyn DuBois.

1528
00:55:00,020 --> 00:55:03,140
If he can stand the ruleset of women's boxing, it's fun.

1529
00:55:04,100 --> 00:55:05,980
Actually, the one in a moment,

1530
00:55:05,980 --> 00:55:08,460
it's gonna be interesting note to add to it.

1531
00:55:08,460 --> 00:55:12,140
But yeah, the women's rules are lame.

1532
00:55:12,140 --> 00:55:13,100
It's unfortunate.

1533
00:55:13,100 --> 00:55:14,060
They deserve better.

1534
00:55:15,980 --> 00:55:17,420
WBC lightweight champ,

1535
00:55:17,420 --> 00:55:20,220
Caroline DuBois in the co-main verse, Bomi Reysheen.

1536
00:55:21,860 --> 00:55:23,180
That's fun.

1537
00:55:23,180 --> 00:55:24,380
That'll be interesting.

1538
00:55:26,540 --> 00:55:27,420
Wasserman.

1539
00:55:28,540 --> 00:55:33,540
You can see a very keyed up Sauerland brother.

1540
00:55:36,220 --> 00:55:38,740
Chances are you'll catch one of them on the camera.

1541
00:55:38,740 --> 00:55:40,060
Two fights only really worth it.

1542
00:55:40,060 --> 00:55:41,140
Michael Conlon.

1543
00:55:41,140 --> 00:55:45,940
Yeah, Mickey Conlon is back versus Asad Asif Khan.

1544
00:55:45,940 --> 00:55:47,380
Don't know who that is.

1545
00:55:47,380 --> 00:55:48,380
That's a 130.

1546
00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:51,060
Looking to get back in the top 500.

1547
00:55:51,060 --> 00:55:51,900
Hey.

1548
00:55:53,140 --> 00:55:55,580
And Harlem Eubank versus Tyrone McKenna,

1549
00:55:55,580 --> 00:55:58,780
IBF Intercontinental 147.

1550
00:56:00,140 --> 00:56:03,820
Both of those start about midday.

1551
00:56:03,820 --> 00:56:06,020
I don't know where to watch the Wasserman card.

1552
00:56:06,020 --> 00:56:07,900
So I can't, I don't know.

1553
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:08,740
Put your sales up.

1554
00:56:12,820 --> 00:56:13,660
Oh.

1555
00:56:13,660 --> 00:56:14,500
We're gonna see the high seas.

1556
00:56:14,500 --> 00:56:16,420
Look who decided to join me.

1557
00:56:16,420 --> 00:56:17,260
It's Tubbs.

1558
00:56:18,620 --> 00:56:19,780
Hey buddy.

1559
00:56:19,780 --> 00:56:21,100
All right.

1560
00:56:21,100 --> 00:56:21,940
Moving on.

1561
00:56:21,940 --> 00:56:23,700
Last card for the seventh.

1562
00:56:23,700 --> 00:56:26,100
This is on Dazon.

1563
00:56:26,100 --> 00:56:28,620
Most valuable promotions.

1564
00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:29,540
Jake Paul?

1565
00:56:29,540 --> 00:56:30,380
No.

1566
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:34,020
His promo, yeah, but not him not fighting.

1567
00:56:34,020 --> 00:56:35,100
Watch.

1568
00:56:35,100 --> 00:56:35,940
One card.

1569
00:56:35,940 --> 00:56:36,780
No.

1570
00:56:36,780 --> 00:56:39,620
Or one fight on the card worth that I honestly

1571
00:56:39,620 --> 00:56:42,460
can only recognize is Lucas Boddy.

1572
00:56:42,460 --> 00:56:45,820
He's back after that great.

1573
00:56:45,820 --> 00:56:46,660
This is a MVP.

1574
00:56:46,660 --> 00:56:47,500
K.O. of the year.

1575
00:56:47,500 --> 00:56:49,620
Yeah. K.O. comeback of the year.

1576
00:56:49,620 --> 00:56:53,180
This is MVP slash matchroom as I understand it.

1577
00:56:54,100 --> 00:56:57,420
And he's fighting Ryan James Rekaza.

1578
00:57:00,140 --> 00:57:00,980
That's.

1579
00:57:00,980 --> 00:57:01,820
That's gonna be.

1580
00:57:01,820 --> 00:57:04,260
Is he even ranked?

1581
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:07,540
Honestly, my comment about these cards.

1582
00:57:09,180 --> 00:57:10,300
No.

1583
00:57:10,300 --> 00:57:11,140
Doesn't look like it.

1584
00:57:11,140 --> 00:57:12,860
Probably actually.

1585
00:57:12,860 --> 00:57:16,260
Probably like top 20 in like the WBA or something honestly.

1586
00:57:17,820 --> 00:57:20,100
The ranking, like these numbers that I have here

1587
00:57:20,100 --> 00:57:21,140
are from box.

1588
00:57:21,140 --> 00:57:22,660
These are like low key like.

1589
00:57:25,580 --> 00:57:26,420
Low key what?

1590
00:57:28,180 --> 00:57:30,060
Low key they're like pro box cards though

1591
00:57:30,060 --> 00:57:31,420
and like their fun value.

1592
00:57:31,420 --> 00:57:32,860
They're not as meaningful at all

1593
00:57:32,860 --> 00:57:34,100
because you're just building prospects.

1594
00:57:34,100 --> 00:57:34,940
Yeah, they're developmental.

1595
00:57:34,940 --> 00:57:35,860
Like they're fun.

1596
00:57:35,860 --> 00:57:37,100
Yeah.

1597
00:57:37,100 --> 00:57:38,060
I always point them out

1598
00:57:38,060 --> 00:57:41,700
because like if you like boxing or if you love it,

1599
00:57:41,700 --> 00:57:42,540
watch it.

1600
00:57:43,580 --> 00:57:46,220
That's all it really is to do is watch it.

1601
00:57:46,220 --> 00:57:47,420
No.

1602
00:57:47,420 --> 00:57:49,780
You got nothing to do after work.

1603
00:57:49,780 --> 00:57:51,900
Like it's this or cracking the hog.

1604
00:57:51,900 --> 00:57:52,940
This is better.

1605
00:57:53,780 --> 00:57:54,620
All right.

1606
00:57:54,620 --> 00:57:55,460
We like.

1607
00:57:55,460 --> 00:57:56,300
All right.

1608
00:57:56,300 --> 00:57:57,220
Saturday, March 8th.

1609
00:57:58,540 --> 00:58:00,380
Really just one really quickly.

1610
00:58:00,380 --> 00:58:02,740
Danny Swift Garcia.

1611
00:58:02,740 --> 00:58:05,140
He's in the promotion game now.

1612
00:58:05,140 --> 00:58:07,060
This fight is gonna be on this new service

1613
00:58:07,060 --> 00:58:08,500
that I just found out about.

1614
00:58:08,500 --> 00:58:09,740
So it's new to me.

1615
00:58:09,740 --> 00:58:13,300
BXNGTV.com.

1616
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:15,980
That's Boxing TV, right?

1617
00:58:15,980 --> 00:58:16,820
Pro box.

1618
00:58:16,820 --> 00:58:19,020
Actually like low key, good.

1619
00:58:20,020 --> 00:58:23,740
The lot of games on here that I don't really recognize.

1620
00:58:23,740 --> 00:58:25,100
Gabriel Murataya.

1621
00:58:25,100 --> 00:58:26,460
He's a Robert Garcia kid.

1622
00:58:27,660 --> 00:58:29,940
He's actually pretty damn good.

1623
00:58:29,940 --> 00:58:31,420
Not as good as his brother obviously, but.

1624
00:58:31,420 --> 00:58:33,220
Nicholas Walters is still around.

1625
00:58:33,220 --> 00:58:34,060
Yeah.

1626
00:58:34,980 --> 00:58:36,380
So moving up.

1627
00:58:36,380 --> 00:58:37,660
One.

1628
00:58:37,660 --> 00:58:39,140
Let me cherry pick on the way up here.

1629
00:58:39,140 --> 00:58:41,460
So I gave you Gabe Murataya.

1630
00:58:41,460 --> 00:58:44,500
Kelvin Davis, DB3 on me.

1631
00:58:44,500 --> 00:58:45,860
DB3 on me.

1632
00:58:45,860 --> 00:58:48,980
As of right now, I don't know who his opponent is.

1633
00:58:48,980 --> 00:58:50,980
So I don't know.

1634
00:58:50,980 --> 00:58:53,820
The last two fights on the bill, the top, the co-main.

1635
00:58:53,820 --> 00:58:56,620
Luis Torres Valenzuela versus Nicholas Walters.

1636
00:58:56,620 --> 00:58:58,940
Yes, that Nicholas Walters.

1637
00:58:58,940 --> 00:59:02,140
And Arnold Kegay versus Joed Gonzalez.

1638
00:59:02,140 --> 00:59:05,940
The co-main looks pretty good.

1639
00:59:07,460 --> 00:59:08,580
So that's.

1640
00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:09,780
Main's gonna be fun as hell.

1641
00:59:09,780 --> 00:59:10,620
Yeah.

1642
00:59:10,620 --> 00:59:12,060
It's just like boxing.

1643
00:59:12,060 --> 00:59:13,180
The main is really fun.

1644
00:59:14,220 --> 00:59:15,060
Yeah.

1645
00:59:16,740 --> 00:59:19,100
That's just gotta be their tagline at this point.

1646
00:59:19,100 --> 00:59:19,940
Low key.

1647
00:59:19,940 --> 00:59:21,780
We're like the pro box of.

1648
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:23,500
It's a low key guitar.

1649
00:59:23,500 --> 00:59:26,740
This podcast is like the pro box of podcasts, yeah.

1650
00:59:26,740 --> 00:59:28,140
We're like the low key.

1651
00:59:29,700 --> 00:59:30,540
I usually say this.

1652
00:59:30,540 --> 00:59:31,740
Low key but good.

1653
00:59:31,740 --> 00:59:32,580
Yeah.

1654
00:59:32,580 --> 00:59:34,940
I usually say this on the MMA show where it's like,

1655
00:59:34,940 --> 00:59:38,860
sorry, the MMA people, but boxing is,

1656
00:59:38,860 --> 00:59:40,860
that's where it's at this weekend.

1657
00:59:40,860 --> 00:59:45,340
This time, like, I think UFC 313.

1658
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:49,180
It's looking a little bit more stacked.

1659
00:59:49,180 --> 00:59:50,020
That might be why.

1660
00:59:50,020 --> 00:59:50,860
Get yourself a second.

1661
00:59:50,860 --> 00:59:53,020
Get your shit on on this one.

1662
00:59:53,020 --> 00:59:56,460
Get a second monitor, have pro box, have UFC

1663
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:58,100
and alternate between the one that

1664
00:59:59,500 --> 01:00:01,380
is more fun at the moment.

1665
01:00:01,380 --> 01:00:02,460
Yeah.

1666
01:00:02,460 --> 01:00:03,300
Pro box.

1667
01:00:03,300 --> 01:00:04,140
Not play.

1668
01:00:06,980 --> 01:00:07,820
Well, that's it.

1669
01:00:07,820 --> 01:00:09,020
That's the pro box.

1670
01:00:09,020 --> 01:00:11,380
We're pro pro box on this podcast.

1671
01:00:11,380 --> 01:00:13,500
I'm gonna show it to the day I die.

1672
01:00:13,500 --> 01:00:14,460
For sure.

1673
01:00:14,460 --> 01:00:17,740
I have never said a negative thing about pro box

1674
01:00:17,740 --> 01:00:19,980
and it's because I fucking, I mean it.

1675
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:22,100
I have nothing negative to say about them.

1676
01:00:23,340 --> 01:00:28,340
Even Paulie, who as a person outside of the boxing sphere,

1677
01:00:28,340 --> 01:00:32,180
I really don't care for him, but he's awesome on the show.

1678
01:00:32,180 --> 01:00:33,380
On every show.

1679
01:00:33,380 --> 01:00:36,580
When he's commentating, he cares about,

1680
01:00:36,580 --> 01:00:39,100
again, like this leads to my greater point.

1681
01:00:40,140 --> 01:00:41,700
He loves boxing.

1682
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:42,580
It's not about him.

1683
01:00:42,580 --> 01:00:44,860
It's about the fight in front of him.

1684
01:00:44,860 --> 01:00:47,500
Sometimes his bias leaks through towards like

1685
01:00:47,500 --> 01:00:49,300
boxers versus punchers, but like,

1686
01:00:49,300 --> 01:00:50,780
Of course.

1687
01:00:50,780 --> 01:00:52,420
That's just part of the flavor though.

1688
01:00:52,420 --> 01:00:54,460
You know what you're getting.

1689
01:00:54,460 --> 01:00:57,660
Algerian is in the same way, but he can respect punchers

1690
01:00:57,660 --> 01:01:01,140
just cause he's been in with some solid ones.

1691
01:01:01,140 --> 01:01:04,460
He's gotten hit by punchers and Connor Benz.

1692
01:01:06,060 --> 01:01:07,660
Chris, Chris Algerian is a pretty good fighter.

1693
01:01:07,660 --> 01:01:09,060
Not a pretty good fighter, a pretty good commentator.

1694
01:01:09,060 --> 01:01:09,900
I like him.

1695
01:01:09,900 --> 01:01:11,020
I like him as a commentator a lot.

1696
01:01:11,020 --> 01:01:12,260
Dude is really smart.

1697
01:01:13,140 --> 01:01:14,180
Yeah.

1698
01:01:14,180 --> 01:01:15,020
All right, let me do this thing.

1699
01:01:15,020 --> 01:01:17,260
It's just people paired with.

1700
01:01:18,180 --> 01:01:19,020
All right.

1701
01:01:20,060 --> 01:01:23,340
Do you guys remember when I fought Sean Porter?

1702
01:01:23,340 --> 01:01:25,620
Y'all remember when I fought Zadjudo?

1703
01:01:25,620 --> 01:01:27,100
He doesn't do that.

1704
01:01:27,100 --> 01:01:30,860
Fucking when you got wrecked by Errol Spence, buddy.

1705
01:01:33,620 --> 01:01:35,140
I remember when they pulled him off.

1706
01:01:35,140 --> 01:01:36,900
They pulled him off the commentary booth

1707
01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:39,020
to go get his ass kicked by Connor Benz.

1708
01:01:40,980 --> 01:01:42,020
That was my side piece.

1709
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:43,260
That was my side piece.

1710
01:01:43,260 --> 01:01:44,100
Yeah.

1711
01:01:44,100 --> 01:01:45,660
That was malanaji.

1712
01:01:45,660 --> 01:01:46,500
Yeah.

1713
01:01:50,980 --> 01:01:53,020
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1714
01:01:53,020 --> 01:01:54,620
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01:01:54,620 --> 01:01:55,940
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01:01:55,940 --> 01:01:58,620
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01:02:07,140 --> 01:02:08,980
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01:02:32,980 --> 01:02:36,060
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1733
01:02:36,060 --> 01:02:37,740
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01:02:44,300 --> 01:02:47,100
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1741
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:57,100
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1742
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1743
01:02:58,700 --> 01:03:00,980
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1744
01:03:00,980 --> 01:03:03,020
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1745
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1746
01:03:05,980 --> 01:03:08,500
Right, so we're gonna wrap up here.

1747
01:03:08,500 --> 01:03:09,820
Parting words.

1748
01:03:09,820 --> 01:03:11,580
I'll start with this one.

1749
01:03:11,580 --> 01:03:14,180
Actually, you said side piece and maybe it reminded me

1750
01:03:14,180 --> 01:03:17,980
that I've been running those with Shannada

1751
01:03:17,980 --> 01:03:19,860
since she's out in Japan scheduling

1752
01:03:19,860 --> 01:03:21,980
with you guys is a little difficult.

1753
01:03:21,980 --> 01:03:23,660
So we've been doing that.

1754
01:03:23,660 --> 01:03:27,460
It's a little bit looser of a framework

1755
01:03:27,460 --> 01:03:29,660
where we're not running down every single card

1756
01:03:29,660 --> 01:03:32,180
that's coming up, but it's still a lot of fun.

1757
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:35,380
So keep your eye out for that.

1758
01:03:35,380 --> 01:03:38,420
And fucking, dude, watch ProBox.

1759
01:03:39,340 --> 01:03:40,180
Watch it.

1760
01:03:40,180 --> 01:03:41,020
ProBox good.

1761
01:03:42,380 --> 01:03:43,300
The zone bad.

1762
01:03:45,740 --> 01:03:46,820
Top rank worse.

1763
01:03:48,420 --> 01:03:49,260
At least.

1764
01:03:49,260 --> 01:03:51,340
GBC's on the floor.

1765
01:03:51,340 --> 01:03:52,460
At least top rank.

1766
01:03:53,540 --> 01:03:58,540
And ProBox, they both broadcast in 1080p.

1767
01:04:00,220 --> 01:04:03,340
And the zone is still in fucking DVD quality.

1768
01:04:04,220 --> 01:04:06,820
Isn't that crazy how fucking ProBox

1769
01:04:06,820 --> 01:04:09,420
has better quality than the fucking Card of the Century?

1770
01:04:09,420 --> 01:04:10,780
Yeah.

1771
01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:12,100
It's crazy, huh?

1772
01:04:12,100 --> 01:04:14,540
Hey, it's no longer the Card of the Century.

1773
01:04:14,540 --> 01:04:16,340
The next one's the Card of the Century.

1774
01:04:16,340 --> 01:04:18,500
They'll get it right on the next one.

1775
01:04:18,500 --> 01:04:19,340
That's true.

1776
01:04:22,300 --> 01:04:23,140
All right, partying.

1777
01:04:23,140 --> 01:04:24,380
Yeah, that's just like...

1778
01:04:26,380 --> 01:04:27,980
Oh, I kept it to six words.

1779
01:04:28,860 --> 01:04:29,900
Whatever you want.

1780
01:04:30,900 --> 01:04:33,900
Yeah, I'll repeat my six words.

1781
01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:34,860
ProBox good.

1782
01:04:35,900 --> 01:04:37,380
The zone bad.

1783
01:04:37,380 --> 01:04:39,100
Top rank worse.

1784
01:04:39,100 --> 01:04:40,020
That's good.

1785
01:04:40,020 --> 01:04:41,020
That's good.

1786
01:04:41,020 --> 01:04:41,860
My turn now, right?

1787
01:04:41,860 --> 01:04:42,780
Yeah, that's you.

1788
01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:43,620
Yeah, go ahead.

1789
01:04:44,820 --> 01:04:46,620
Well, I love boxing.

1790
01:04:46,620 --> 01:04:48,020
I'm excited to see what's gonna happen.

1791
01:04:48,020 --> 01:04:49,100
These next couple months.

1792
01:04:49,100 --> 01:04:51,900
For the next month, it's gonna be a little slow,

1793
01:04:51,900 --> 01:04:53,860
but still a solid month.

1794
01:04:53,860 --> 01:04:55,900
We just gotta wait till then this comes up.

1795
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:56,740
Okay?

1796
01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:57,580
But you know what?

1797
01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:58,580
Again, I'll say it again.

1798
01:04:58,580 --> 01:04:59,420
I love boxing.

1799
01:04:59,420 --> 01:05:01,060
I love you all who watch this podcast.

1800
01:05:01,060 --> 01:05:02,860
Thank you for tuning in.

1801
01:05:02,860 --> 01:05:03,780
All right.

1802
01:05:03,780 --> 01:05:06,260
With that, I'm gonna get out of here.

1803
01:05:06,260 --> 01:05:08,820
Oh, you know what we're talking about next time.

1804
01:05:08,820 --> 01:05:10,500
You already know.

1805
01:05:10,500 --> 01:05:12,260
All right, see you on the other side

1806
01:05:12,260 --> 01:05:18,260
of this interesting weekend.