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Man.
Isaac, how are you doing?
You okay?
I'm doing all right.
You sure?
Cause it is real, dead Sonja.
My man is dead.
He's down.
Shots fired.
It was a very sad sight.
I'm not gonna lie.
I mean, it's one of those things,
you get closure at the very least.
True.
You get closure, it's time.
I'm just gonna go ahead and say it's time.
Yeah.
Lay the gloves down, stick to coaching or whatever.
What did I say about the Pedraza last time?
Hopefully this is the retirement moment.
Yeah, hopefully.
Hopefully.
Yeah, this is, I mean, he used all of his life force
for that potato knockout.
But that's, I mean, it's not been going well really
since then.
Oh, it hasn't.
Competitive with DDP, in hindsight,
maybe it's not quite as good.
Like he could have been more dominant
if he had been younger.
Yeah, I mean, like even in the Imola fight,
he looked okay to start.
I mean, it's not like he got steamrolled,
but one of the first few punches that like landed flush
just finished him.
So I mean, yeah, the resistance may be completely shot
at this point.
Go to Virgil Hunter.
That man knows how to tighten up defense.
Sure.
At the cost of everything else.
Oh, Alex, did you catch the Aded Sonia moment?
I caught the highlights of it.
And when I got sad, I got sad.
I remember only a few years ago,
people were talking everything.
They were talking it up about Aded Sonia, man.
Saying he's gonna be the fucking king of the sport.
This, this and that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, he sort of was.
He reached a pretty high peak.
Like not even some champions reach.
He made a crazy amount of money in his career,
but it's obviously gonna be weird
without him in the sport.
I'm not gonna lie.
Yeah.
It's gonna be a bit weird.
Like have a UFC promotion that he's not fighting in,
but maybe he'll, I'm sure he'll still show up
to fight Spirit Ugly and support his like New Zealand camp.
As well.
Show us some support.
We'll see.
City kickboxing, is that what they were?
Yeah, city kickboxing, yeah.
DKB.
Well, I hear GFL is looking for people.
GFL.
Man, he would be, he would run through.
He would run GFL.
Absolutely.
It would not even be competitive.
I'm not, he would do them so bad.
But yeah, we'll be talking about that one.
That's over on Ultimate F and Casuals.
Wherever you're listening to this,
you can hear that as well.
Fun.
So recaps, holy shit.
Let's get through some quick ones.
On the 31st of January,
Junaid Bostan versus Bilal Fawaz.
That was a draw.
George Lidard versus Derek Osaze.
Lidard gets the UD.
And Giorgio Viosoli, RTD 5.
I think that's, Homeboy didn't want to come out
after the fourth.
I think that's what RTDs are in the UK.
Versus Brian Barajas.
Fun.
That was the matchroom next gen.
So it's like their prospect, prospect series.
Only one fight, on the first, on Saturday,
in Wendley, boxer Adam Azeem stopped Sergey Lipinets
in the ninth to claim the IBO 140 title.
The biggest fight of the weekend.
Absolutely.
I don't even, is there any more boxing after this?
I don't know.
I don't think so.
This guy's a king of sport.
So that was that.
I thought Lipinets was gonna be a little better,
but of our pick league,
I was the only one that didn't pick Azeem.
Right, now, the fucking meat of the dish,
PBC at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.
Someone, somewhere, Rick Laser is crying in a corner
for how fucking wonderful this card was.
So bottom up, as we usually do,
Yohann Lee Hernandez, TKO 5 over Angel Astorga.
Oh, I underestimated Hernandez here.
And I also didn't know who Astorga was.
So I just picked Astorga, cause I'm not very bright.
Hey, Leo, I think you're missing a fighter on here, man.
Who?
Oh, Kermel.
It was a late edition.
It was, I know.
That's why I forgot about it.
Kermel Moten, he opened up the card, didn't he?
Yeah.
Yeah, he was like the first one.
I think he was on the YouTube portion.
He was on the prelims, yeah.
So what?
I honestly didn't see it.
School me up.
You gotta knock out.
In the...
I believe it was, I know I got a knock out,
but I think it was in the seventh.
I remember now.
Yeah, it was like a, it's not like you put him up cold.
It was like a TKO though, no?
No, yeah, you got the, yeah, you got a TKO, yeah.
Yeah.
And something like that.
I was going to work.
I was on my way to work.
Dude, Moten looks massive, by the way.
He is.
Kermel looks massive for that.
That could go up to welterweight.
He got a TKO three out of eight over Frank Saldivar.
What the hell was I saying, bro?
I came around seven, what the hell's wrong with me?
I didn't know you got the TKO.
They fight at 135 and Kermel looks like a Canelo at one.
Yeah, dude, he looks...
He could do 147.
He's probably will.
He's going to get to that point.
I think he should become a little more fleshed out
135 though.
Yeah.
Yeah, he would have got up there probably.
Yeah.
He's already got up two weight classes, correct?
He is 18 years old.
No one should be pressing him for fighting Cans
at the moment.
No, fuck no.
He is meant to fight Cans right now.
This is where, yeah, he's 18.
This is his, he just won his seventh fight.
This is what you're supposed to be doing.
This is development.
A very promising prospect, I'll tell you that.
Very, very promising.
Very, very promising prospect.
You know, at 135, they have a lot
of promising prospects there, dude.
A lot of promising prospects.
I'm looking forward to seeing him fight in the future.
Yeah, the Mayweather promotions doesn't really have
like a massive stable, but Moten is a giant.
When they...
They don't have a lot, but when they do pick up a prospect,
they are always like, pardon the pun,
they're on the money with it.
Moen's been with Mayweather.
Moen's been with Mayweather since he was a kid.
Yeah, pretty much.
That's his boy right there.
That's his little boy right there at that point.
Yeah, that's very good company to be around, but yeah.
But that's Kermel.
He's still doing it.
I honestly thought he was a joke.
Like the first time I had ever heard of him,
people were saying Kermelo.
Like, because Canelo was fighting that day.
He's like, when's Kermelo fighting?
Like who are you talking about?
Is this what it sounds to me?
Kermelo.
Moen is up.
Jesus Ramos.
These are out of order.
Whatever, it doesn't really matter.
I don't know.
Jesus Ramos stops Jason Rosario in the eighth.
Good stuff.
This was not at 154 as I originally thought it was at 160.
Yeah dude, Jason, bro, it's rough times for him out here.
I'm not gonna lie.
He did better between the Jarrett Hurd fight and this one.
He gave, he's given a really good account of himself.
He can still keep going, but if you're not,
if you're struggling with Jesus Ramos,
it might be time to like dial back your expectations
of where you're gonna go.
But you can tell who's like invested into it.
Cause like he gets super pissed whenever he doesn't do well.
Yes.
He gave it his all.
Yeah, he tried to really work his ass off.
Nothing he can do.
Whenever he got knocked down,
he was incredibly pissed.
Yeah.
I mean, I had himself, but he still cares about winning.
It's not like he's just doing it for the money.
Right.
Ramos, I'd love to say it.
I know that it's not pronounced this way
based on how it's spelled,
but here in Arizona, we call where Jesus Ramos is from,
we call it Casa Grande.
Everyone calls it that, even the Spanish speakers.
But I always refer to that place as a pit of despair
because it's really bleak, it's sad.
It's like commerce city, but more desert.
Commerce city, a little bit of a cut for some people.
But Ramos, man, that bullshit with Eriksson Lubin
set him back when he absolutely should not have been.
He beat Lubin without a doubt.
He was just too polite to say so.
He definitely won that fight.
Yeah, I don't know.
Ramos said he's going back to 154, so that's good.
There's a lot of good fights to be made there.
Mm-hmm, good money fights.
Do you think you'd be in contention
with all the other fighters that they have there or what?
That's what I was just pulling up a little bit.
That's what I was just pulling up the list here.
So Jesus Ramos was...
Oh, he's at number eight now.
This is just watch the ring, so take it with a grain of salt.
He would fucking whoop Xander Zayas,
like not even, it's not even close.
Sergey Bohochuk, that would be an incredible scrap.
Oh my goodness.
Anybody fighting Bohochuk.
Yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, I would say Bohochuk himself will so.
Madrimov, I'm not sure how I rate Ramos against Madrimov.
I see how Madrimov does against certain Virgil Ortiz.
Yeah. Our boy.
Our man, our king, Virgil Ortiz.
Friends of the pod, Virgil Ortiz,
I know you're listening, pal.
We're behind you 100%.
Tim Tzu.
He's like on a down slope right now.
Jesus Ramos is super tough.
That's a super tough matchup.
Oh.
I wouldn't put him with Tim Tzu.
Yeah, if you want to keep Tim Tzu marketable, no.
He's going to go back to Australia, I feel like.
He's got to rebuild a little bit.
Yeah, I was going to say he's got to get some wind back
because that was a really rough loss.
Last year was really rough for him.
Tim Amunghi had, I didn't get a worse year than Amunghi,
honestly, he had a way worse year than Amunghi.
I would say he did.
He lost everything last year.
Everything.
Moving up, Mirko Cuello, TKO 10, question mark
over Christian Olivo.
So the sequence, the final sequence as it played out,
Olivo was beating Cuello's ass, like the entire fight,
except as he started to gas in like the ninth and 10th,
he got hit with a body shot, he went down.
Understandable.
He gets up, he's fine, he continues,
gets hit with another body shot,
kind of the same one, goes down again,
and this time the ref waves it off.
And that's why I say TKO, question mark,
because I think that they were trying to save Cuello,
just my thinking.
Very questionable, very questionable.
I feel like you have to let it go to three knockdowns.
Yeah.
Like you have to, like, I mean,
that's when you can start considering it.
It's not like he, he was mentally still there.
Yeah, there was like 45 seconds left in the round.
If he could hang on the rest of that minute,
he would have won.
Yeah, dude, it was incredibly sad,
like after the fight, when like they panned the camera
over to him, like as he was walking out of the ring
and like going back to the locker room
and they read the scorecards, he was up.
I was like, bro, he had like a minute left.
You for sure was crying in that.
In that.
That feels like whenever it would be a robbery,
like you jobbed him, he could have went to the end.
That would have been a massive win.
That would have been an insanely massive win for him.
Yeah.
He had a save their boy.
They had a save their boy.
By the way, an insane fight, by the way, as well.
That was fun.
That was like pure action.
It's pure fun.
Quayo is a Samson fighter.
So, you know, make of that what you will.
Do we have certain opinions about Samson on here?
Whatever opinion you want to share.
Well, I want to hear your guys' opinion first.
I think he's all right.
I think he does really well, like inside of South America,
like he promotes a lot in Uruguay and Argentina.
In those spots, he does really good things for fighters
to elevate them and get them onto the world stage.
After that, I don't know how,
I don't think I feel that greatly about him.
Yeah, me either.
I really do not like Samson.
Promoters and being crooks.
Oh, what?
I mean, okay, yeah, you're right.
You're right, you're right.
You know what, let's move on, let's move on.
Because like David Benavides is fond of Samson.
Both the fighting funduras, they like him too.
So I don't know, like does it, I don't know.
I don't know enough to say,
but if you do find that article or whatever,
then send it to me.
I'd like to read it.
Yeah, let's move on, let's move on.
Let's cut that out, let's cut it out, let's cut that out.
Moving up, Isaac Cruz, UD over Angel Fierro at 140, 10 rounds.
Okay, so Cruz may have won that fight
and he won it like competitively, but clearly.
Fierro's stock is, he wins the moral story of the fight.
This is a good one.
Yeah, this is his stock went up.
Cruz is like a little bit, you know, but Fierro like, man,
I want to see more of him.
I'm excited to see him.
Another name in the division,
because 140 is also pretty hot right now.
And their matchups you can make there.
Hot, you think 140 is hot right now?
Let's have a look.
140.
I think it's dying down a lot, man.
You're right.
At the top, sure, but there's a lot of good matchups
that you can make that are at like the B level.
Like Catarol, Hiraoka, Subra Matias, Paro, still in it.
Adam Aziz, just kind of stepped up to the next level.
Arnold Barbosa, Jose Ramirez, Dalton Smith, still doing it.
So there's, and Rayos, the title holder too.
The thing is,
he's up there.
Yeah, I mean, T-Film was great,
but a lot of the guys that with big name recognition
are most likely going to move up to 147.
Probably.
From what I've seen.
Just, I know Ryan, that's staying at 140 anymore.
No.
Devin Haney is not either.
Pueyo, Oscar Duarte, Antoine Russell, Regis Progre,
Brandon Lee, Michelle Rivera, Jermaine Ortiz.
There's a ton of names,
but it's not blockbuster fights.
It's stuff for like sickos like us.
Yeah, it's like us.
For boxing, yeah, for boxing fans.
Like Brandon Lee to us, like we're kind of,
we're excited about that, right?
I love Brandon Lee.
He's my favorite.
I love him.
We love Brandon Lee here.
Yeah, friend of the show, Brandon Lee.
Whenever you want to talk, big dog, you let me know.
By the way, Isaac Cruz, he needs to go down the weight.
I'm just going to say.
Yeah, he does.
Cause the lead, that should have been a KO.
The shots that he was landing.
Absolutely.
Should have been a KO, but everyone just too big.
The aura does not work for people that you cannot count.
Yes, he doesn't.
He's got the gas tank, which is super cool,
but like that, when you're not bothering somebody,
then what are you really going to accomplish?
The chickens that got in the water.
Yeah, they will.
It was a fun fight though.
I mean, over a thousand punches thrown.
Was it?
Yeah.
Yeah, it was a good bit over a thousand punches.
It was a great fight.
That was a great fight.
It was fun.
It was very entertaining.
Game busters.
All right, anything more for Cruz, Viero?
I agree with Isaac on the fact that Cruz definitely
needs to go back down to 135.
He needs to get down to 126 so he can fight Nick Ball.
I was saying, 135 might even still be too big for him.
Like, 130, I mean.
It's a little more doable, but yeah.
He may just not.
Going down that much though.
He may not like, kind of weight at all,
but is what I think is happening.
He might like to eat.
He likes his beans and rice.
It's like me.
Shannada said that it's like taco, taco cuts.
Do you want to cut the tacos or no?
He is stocky as hell, bro.
He is, he is.
And his neck is like a fucking tree trunk.
Stick.
Dog, stick.
No one can knock him out.
No, I don't think so.
Well, well.
He had to go like up weight divisions.
Like, way out of his weight division.
I honestly think that Ryan, Ryan could knock him out.
I think Ryan could knock him out.
Aren't they supposed to fight?
They were.
It was rumored, but Cruz said no because like,
he still had to finish this fight with Viero.
But yeah, I mean, at 147 Cruz is getting knocked out, yeah.
Oh, for sure.
Boots.
I mean, the thing is, at 135, what is there for Cruz?
Barrios.
He's going to be, he's going to be with Barrios?
It's an easier fight at 147.
Oh no, I'm at 135.
Oh, at 35.
Okay, so I have the list up if we want to go down
the old box, Rick.
I mean, there's always that tank rematch,
but I don't know, I think that's really there that much
because after Roach.
After Roach, I think tanks going to end up trying to fight
like Ryo or maybe Aloma if he decides to come back.
Well, Ryo kind of hurt people's credibility a lot.
That's what I'm saying, like, if you're going to, you know,
why fight Cruz if you can just fight Ryo?
Yeah, exactly.
Whatever credibility that Ryo took from Cruz.
Exactly.
To get it from Ryo.
Well, for Cruz, just looking at some names here
on the old, the old stinker,
Williams of Peta, that would be a brawl.
That would be a war, that would be a damn good fight.
Shuichiro Yoshino, that would be a brawl
while Yoshino lasts.
Mine lasts, yes.
Keep him away from Shakira, that's.
Yeah, no, no, absolutely not.
That's a useless fight to make.
That's kryptonite.
I skipped over a couple names, like specifically.
The ones that we know.
Yeah, we're not trying to embarrass pit bull right now.
Like Kevin Farmer, that's don't do that.
That's not a good idea.
We're putting him on undercards to like, you know,
like car like hype, but every time I'm proud.
After crowd up, appetizers.
Lucas body, yo.
Oh, he might KO body, I'm not gonna lie,
but that would be a good fight.
Body has that come from behind one hitter power though.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It would be an interesting fight that like,
they'd be brawling, they would be brawling.
He's not getting hurt.
He's getting mad.
But yeah.
I like the reference.
Yeah, so that's it.
Moving up, fucking queue it up, baby.
I don't know what celebration song I want yet.
Steven, fucking Fulton.
UD over Brandon Figueroa.
Let's pull up, let's pull up the pick sheet
because it's just me.
It's just me.
Yeah, I was gonna say, this is Leo's time.
This is my time, baby.
Steven, when you wanna chat, you let me know
because I wanna fucking hear about what it is
that you were thinking, what were you feeling?
That was-
Oh, you're thinking of the shorts.
Yeah, what's up with the jorts, dude?
Where can I get some Tim's boxing shoes?
Where can I get some Tim's?
Like, I didn't know you were from Brooklyn, dog.
That was an E.
That was an interesting.
He just went viral off of that.
That was very good move from him.
No, he did.
He was smart.
I was smart, I was like, what the fuck?
I got a lot of Instagram and TikTok stuff
that were pointing it out.
Like, look at this outfit.
Look at the fit from this fighter.
I'm like, yeah, that's Steven Fulton, baby.
That's Philly's fucking finest.
And junction workers.
23-in-1 with AKOs.
Philly's finest.
Man, all right.
The Bozzy fighter.
Yeah, he moved over to the Boots camp
and now he's firing on all cylinders.
I hope Tevin Farmer makes the move over there too.
He's another Philly guy.
All right, for this one, before we get to Fulton,
I want to ask, as I always do,
what can Brandon do from here?
Because he showed some pretty serious limitations.
The ceiling, I don't know if it's too much to say
that the blueprint is out there,
but like if you can box and move on this guy,
it doesn't seem like he can adjust.
I don't know, might be too hyperbolic here
or what are we thinking?
It has to be the truth because even during fight week,
he was saying, we prepared super hard for this fight,
he was healthy coming in.
Yeah.
I mean, what else?
He wasn't cutting as much weight.
There's no other answer other than he got outboxed.
He got work.
Yeah, he got seriously, seriously work.
This is not close.
No, not at all.
I honestly expected a fight that was gonna be
at least majority decision, split decision even.
But yeah, like the first one,
but unanimous decision Fulton,
like I was surprised.
The insane part was that like,
Fig was getting beat everywhere inside medium range,
at distance he was getting beat everywhere.
Fulton made Figaro look like a fucking amateur.
Yeah, dude, like whenever they would show the slow-mos,
like of Fig coming in, trying to get off a combination,
and Fulton was just working them
in between his combinations.
And he was getting beat hard.
It was beautiful.
I mean, I guess the only thing you can say is that
like Fig has heart and like, you know, he has a chin,
but that's not really what you want people
to be saying about you.
Oh no.
Yeah.
You want people to talk about your skill.
Right.
Yeah.
Skill, power, anything.
Lacks.
When people bring up, oh, he has heart,
he has a solid chin.
It's over.
That just means you're getting your ass kicked.
Yeah, that's a nice way of saying that.
Yeah, it really is.
Yeah, dude, Fulton looked great.
Fulton looked great.
We were talking about it, I think like during the fight,
how this rematch, the second fight,
and the first fight looked so different.
Completely different.
Fulton looked completely different.
And you gotta give it to Boosiannis,
or not Boosiannis for that.
Yeah, I mean, that's the change.
Yeah.
He reinvigorated him.
Yeah, I'm surprised that it changed him that much.
Yeah, I mean.
I don't know if it was a big change in like,
with a guy like Stephen Fulton,
he's coming in off his only loss to an all-time great,
but he was going into that fight,
a unified champion with solid wins under his belt.
This isn't like, you don't need to refine his skills.
You don't need to change his approach to fighting.
Like it's a mentality thing,
that being around a guy like Boots,
being around his father as well,
that's the type of mentality change
that serious champions need to have around them.
I didn't see Fulton fight in a pocket like that.
I don't even think during the end of the fight that much.
He had a completely different demeanor about him,
even during fight week.
I know he joked about it a little bit,
like during the press conference,
like, you know, he almost looked a little bit high.
I mean, he was just like super calm, I guess.
I mean, I don't know.
Weapons grade THC out in Vegas, baby.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
He had something going on.
I mean, he looks like a complete different fighter.
I gotta say, Leo was right.
I picked Fig to win in the pick league.
Me too.
Fulton, man, he said no.
He said no.
Well, I can only say,
if anybody is trying to doubt in a way his greatness,
I can only really point to Stephen Fulton and say,
look at how fucking excellent he continues to be.
Was the Castro fight a little questionable?
Sure, it was.
I chalk that up to Castro is a really tough guy on his own.
So to not look that great against him,
if you don't come correct with Castro, he will beat you.
So I think it was just a case of moving up
and getting used to the weight.
That too, that also had a lot to do with it.
I was just saying, I have to ask now,
and I asked this already knowing the answer,
but I just wanna hear your opinion.
How does this Fulton look against Inouye?
I think he lasts a little longer,
but I actually, you know what, let me change that.
I think he gets finished faster
because Inouye takes him,
he refuses to toy with him and he finishes it quickly
because he doesn't want Fulton to have time to learn
and downgrade to trademark.
I agree, I agree with you.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he needs to be finished.
My question actually kind of bounces off of your question,
Isaac, what did you see the difference
between this fight and Inouye fight?
Not so much the Castro fight, but the Inouye fight,
which was what, two years ago, and this fight?
Yeah, Inouye to Fig too?
Yeah.
Isaac hit it up.
His punch selection and his timing
was sort of insane in this Fig fight.
Beautiful.
I've seen boxing for quite a bit of time.
He was hitting Fig everywhere.
Like normally whenever you see fights like,
like the keys to victory, like, you know,
he has to get inside, he has to keep at a distance.
Oten was dominating Fig literally at every point
in that fight.
And it came down to his timing, his punch selection.
I mean, just, I don't know if he's gotten smarter
or like if Bozi has like sort of changed the way
he thinks about boxing,
but when you pair it with his speed,
the IQ he has now, bro, he's insane now.
I think the way he was fighting.
I think Bozi rebuilt his confidence.
Yeah. Yeah.
It was sort of crazy to see.
I mean, when I was watching the fight, like this one,
I was like, bro, this Fulton looks different.
Yeah. Like completely different.
I think what I noticed,
the biggest difference was the inside work.
Cause like what you said, like,
I was trying to kind of like say what you're saying
about how he was hitting him everywhere.
That was all on the inside.
Those uppercuts he was landing on the inside.
Were nasty.
Yeah, dude.
They were like turning Fig's neck all the way up.
And the thing is you didn't really see that during Inoue.
You didn't see that really at all during the Inoue fight.
Yeah. I mean, that's the thing though.
Like, it's like what Leo was saying.
Like Inoue just did not let him get started at all.
Exactly. Yeah.
He didn't give him any movement, you know?
Yeah.
There was no like wiggle room to like.
If you give him wiggle room,
he's going to find a rhythm
that's going to outwork me somehow.
Yeah.
Inoue just says like, I'm going to stop that.
Yeah.
I need to, I need to nip it in the bud.
Cause if you, if you get going,
then it's going to be a problem for me.
The thing is that even with his improvement,
I really do not want to see that fight with Inoue again.
I said this last week on the last podcast.
I'll tell you, I really do not want to see that fight.
It's cause I think it's going to be a repeat.
I think it goes worse.
Yeah, it goes worse. Definitely.
It's not that.
What's next for Fulton though?
Yeah. That's what I was going to get at is like,
looking at the list, like his fellow champions,
he's got Nick Ball with the WBA.
Espinosa has a WBO.
We don't know if he's going to stay.
And who's the fucking IBF?
Angelo Alejo.
Oh, shit.
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
That's it.
Whoa, wait, wait.
That's a damn good fight right there.
That's the one to make.
Rematch for the belts.
Yeah.
Oh my God.
His one belt is too fucking-
You took my funny bone.
It's actually so nice.
That sounds nice.
This is wild cause like, I mean,
this Fulton is now like way better.
So it, man, there's a storyline there.
Like that fight has everything in it.
Yeah, it does.
The Espinosa one is interesting just on the size issues
and Nick Ball kind of, but for the opposite reasons,
like just cause he's like a meatball
versus Slender Man.
He's always gonna pressure forward.
That's the best way to put it.
Yeah.
I really hope that Venado is not fighting still.
No, bro.
He's gotta stop.
Oh yeah.
Brain bleed.
Yeah, brain bleed.
That's game, dude.
You gotta stop.
It's over.
Game over.
Shu Shu is out there.
Ray Vargas.
I hope he's-
I don't wanna say anything ill.
I don't wish him ill.
I just don't wanna see him fight anymore.
Oh man, come on man.
Yeah, but the Angelo Leo fight,
that's just there for the making.
That's right there.
That'd be a war.
Same, but now same question for Fig.
Espinosa is a good fight for him.
Like they're both tall, rangy.
Nick Ball would just be fucking hilarious
if they were to fight.
Be fun.
Yeah.
The face-offs would be sort of insane.
Get him a fucking step stool.
Yeah.
Like that, that wouldn't even look,
if you put that on the internet,
people would be like, why are they fighting?
Why is this kid from the amateur's fighting professional?
Well, we gotta try to find an adult here.
Well, this particular fellow is wider
than the other one is tall.
So, I don't know.
That's it though.
That's it for this one.
If you have anything more for Fulton Figueroa,
what do you guys got?
Match question.
Good win.
Woof.
Good win.
Good one.
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David versus David.
Ben Avedez takes it on points over Morrell.
Alex, kick us off here.
What do you got?
The battle of the David's lived up to the hype.
It lived up to the hype.
As I said last podcast,
it's the best way to put it is it felt orgasmic.
It felt amazing.
Three years in the making.
Great, great fight.
I still think about it.
I was thinking about it all day actually.
I've been thinking about it all day.
Great.
Yeah.
This fight was sort of insane.
Like whenever it started out,
like for the first few rounds up until like
the middle of the fight,
I had said it before,
like, you know, the nerves are gonna be at an all time high
whenever the bell rings.
It was, I mean, dude,
I was like totally shaking almost during this fight.
It was.
At least it was like, I mean.
Yeah.
I was nervous.
It was like the first round,
but they were throwing nukes at each other.
They were throwing nukes at each other.
Absolutely.
Like I mean.
They're like you created that.
Yes, I'm saying bro.
You had this feeling that like,
bros, if something lands,
they are gonna be out cold.
But like, I mean, as the fight went on, you know,
punches started to land, I was like, damn.
They're throwing nukes, but they're eating them too.
They know how to roll.
They know how to roll with it.
Yeah.
I mean, some of them, yeah, but bro,
Benefitas was landing on rail.
Some of those uppercuts were insane.
The triple one?
Yeah.
Triple, that was nasty.
The hooks right around the guard, uppercuts.
He was landing and like,
Murrell's entire head was moving,
like not rolling with it, but just like absorbing it.
And the chin held up.
This was an insane fight all the way through.
All the way through.
Honestly, I think this fight is instant classic.
Instant classic.
Yeah.
I mean, and it's something you wouldn't expect from,
like when you just like,
let's say you didn't know them.
And this is like,
majority of the casual fan base did not know Murrell.
No.
You know, the 11 fights, you know, zero losses obviously.
Who's this Cuban?
Yeah.
The Cuban argument.
He's got a good amateur record,
but you wouldn't expect this from a fighter at the 11 fights.
Murrell did well.
And like both contributed to how good this fight was.
You know, this was just an insane fight at every facet.
Like, you know, defensively, offensively,
it was insane.
I was really surprised by David Benavides' defense.
Yes, much improved.
Shocked, actually.
It was much improved.
And honestly, I was also surprised by
how Murrell respected David Benavides' power
to be put on the back.
Because honestly, I thought Benavides was gonna be put
on the back for this fight.
I thought it was gonna be a very,
but the fact that Benavides was actually able to walk him down
was nasty.
It proved to me that Benavides' power is crazy.
Maybe not as crazy as what we kind of hoped,
but it's still crazy.
Yeah, it's like cumulative power.
Like, he doesn't have more power than he could see.
Yeah, but like those punches,
like those combos that he ends up getting off,
they are brutal.
Like even if he guard absorbs them,
your hands are gonna be numb after taking them,
taking a combo.
I mean, the only thing,
the only critique I have with Benavides is obviously for work.
That's one, obviously.
And then the other one is actually,
I was surprised for David Benavides' stamina.
Because near the end, he was,
I mean, both of the guys were one out, of course.
It was a war, but the stamina,
I expected David to have a better stamina near the end.
Which one?
Oh, Benavides.
Oh, okay.
He usually, when he has these like long-term,
like look at the Vosdick fight.
He was doing fine,
and he was still stringing combos together at the end,
but he wasn't getting a lot of return fire.
So it's a big difference when someone's clobbering you back
that has power versus just someone
who's just backing up the whole time.
I think his stamina held up well enough,
all things considered.
Yeah, it was sufficient for the,
this was like very,
it was very weird watching Murrell as well,
because like, you know, after the middle rounds,
it's like, you know, damn, Murrell was starting to get gassed.
You know, you could see him in his deep breaths.
Body shot.
But then at like the very end,
he found this like second wind,
and he just started unloading these combos.
It was sort of weird to see like, you know,
who thought Murrell was done,
but he sort of started stringing some combinations
together at the very end
that were doing damage to Benavides.
I mean, the knockdown, how do you feel about that?
Question mark, knockdown, question mark?
Yeah. I don't know.
Yeah, now more angles have come out now,
and it was like a footwork crossing,
and then I guess Murrell, he landed on the shoulder.
Yeah.
I think that's Dishy in the Discord was saying like,
that if, even if their feet got tangled,
but you tag them on the head or on the body for,
or whatever, that's fine.
Yeah.
But tagging the shoulder, no, that's not,
that's not a knockdown.
Yeah, I didn't buy it.
I thought that was kind of a interesting move
from Thomas Taylor.
He went to the replay.
He's a good ref.
He is a good ref.
He went to the replay,
and the athletic commission held it up as a knockdown.
I'm very critical of Thomas Taylor.
I'll tell you that.
I'm very, very critical.
Why is that?
Because, because in my opinion,
I mean, I think Thomas Taylor,
he doesn't put up with the bullshit.
He does not put up with the bullshit.
I like, that's why I like, I do,
I respect him more recently because of that,
but my only gripe with Thomas Taylor is that
there's instances where he's stopped fights
a little too early.
I think the biggest, the best example would be
the Pipple-Roly fight, in my opinion.
I think that fight could have gone a little bit longer.
You know what I mean?
And there's other fights where he's doing-
You know if you wanted to see Roly out cold, bruh.
Well, I think it's mainly because of that too.
I really wanted to see Roly out cold.
But at the same time, it's not,
it's also because, I mean, Roly,
I think Roly still had enough in him
to keep fighting in that fight specifically.
That might be why you stop it,
because he does have enough to keep going,
but he's not gonna be compared to that.
There's some of that.
There's like that, like, too tough for your own good.
Like, you won't go down,
but those blows are still landing.
They're still gonna land, yeah, I agree.
I just don't agree with the way,
at the point he did it at.
I just didn't, I didn't see Roly hurt that much at that point.
I mean, he was hurt a little bit,
but not as much as that,
what you would expect a knockout from,
you know what I mean?
Technical knockout.
You see what I'm saying?
For this-
Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.
But for this fight, he was good.
Oh, he was on it.
We ended up getting,
Murrell got that point immediately taken away,
as well, from the knockdown.
That was a bullshit thing, Murrell.
I was pissed at Murrell, dude.
I was fucking pissed.
How you get a fucking knockout,
and you do pull some bullshit like that,
that cancels it out, right?
Bullshit.
I didn't see any of the post-fight stuff,
but did he comment on that?
I haven't seen, they usually don't.
I don't like that.
If I could do anything with the fights that I get to attend,
it would be that.
I would wanna talk to the refs.
Refs and the judges, no cameras.
Yeah.
Like immediately, whenever it happened,
he ended up telling him,
I told you, I guess he had a conversation with him
back in the locker room.
He said, there's no bullshit with late hits.
I guess he told him he was gonna take a point
if there was a late hit.
He was very adamant.
Shooter was worried.
Yeah, that was, Murrell was not happy, but it was late.
Worker's who?
Worker's late.
Like, fuck, that was egregious.
I know people are saying that
Thomas Saylor was giving Benavides the advantage,
because apparently Benavides hit after the belt too,
but I don't buy that either.
One of them was me, but that was just because, you know,
heat of the moment, T. Murrell, but.
Okay, yeah.
Oh yeah, that was you, Isaac.
That was you.
I mean, I was one of the few.
I was one of the few.
There was a few other people in there.
But yeah, it was just heat of the moment, you know,
we're in the middle of a war.
We needed every advantage we could get, but yeah.
Rewatching, yes, it was egregious.
Very egregious.
What is next for David Murrell?
That's kinda hard.
Yeah.
It's just stockwores.
Like it's a loss, but his stock rose, I feel.
Absolutely.
At least, at the very least for both of them,
I think they rose each other's stock up.
Obviously David Benavides' stock is higher,
a lot higher at this point.
But I think that Murrell can come back from this easily.
The only problem is what options are there at 175?
Yeah, I mean, I've seen the option floated for Murrell
to fight the winner between Smith and Boazzi.
I think that's pretty fair.
That is actually, that's fair.
That's very fair.
To fight the winner though, the winner of that fight
is one of the mandatory slots for the undisputed.
They're not gonna take Murrell.
The thing is like, Benavides is probably
gonna get the next shot though, no?
He will because the money's better.
You know how much bullshit it would be
if imagine if Boazzi won between Smith and Boazzi,
and that he actually gets the shot at undisputed
instead of David Benavides?
I'll be livid.
If Benavides is getting like stiff at 168 and 175,
that'd be insane.
No, I would just kind of crash out at that point.
I'd be convinced that there was some like internal beat
between him and some president or worker
at one of these organizations for the belts.
I'd be convinced.
Or should it be WBC, yeah?
Yeah.
There's something going on back there
that he did something or said something
that they didn't like and it's just,
they continue to stiff him.
I'd be convinced.
Anthony Yard.
That's another good one.
Anthony Yard, yeah.
That's a good fight.
Solid, bro.
Wozniak, who just fought Benavides, not a bad fight.
Not a bad fight either.
The loser of Boazzi, Callum Smith,
is not a bad fight for Morell either.
Maybe the loser of Evil Better Beef.
That too.
Yeah.
That would be a hard, that would be a hard.
That's better.
That would be a hard fight though.
Oh yeah, it would.
And when is Arthur Better BF that loses?
I don't want Better B to lose.
But I was gonna say,
if Better B loses, he might retire, I feel like.
I think so too.
Yeah.
Honestly, I feel like if he wins,
he might retire too, undefeated.
I think it goes both ways.
He's old, he's old.
He's old, yeah.
And the thing with Better B is that if he retires,
that kind of splits the belts
among all the fighters in the right.
Boazzi Smith is WBO,
Benavides is WBA, WBC,
and I don't know IBF,
I don't know who that one is.
The fact that it's being called the last crescendo
is kind of making me a little worried
about if Better B does retire.
Better B is probably gonna, yeah,
he's probably gonna hang in there.
His body's falling apart.
I wanna see Benavides Better B, dude.
That would be a good fucking scrap.
I would much rather see that
than Benavides Canelo.
I would. That's, that's.
That will die on the hill.
I would. That will die on the hill.
That's a crazy thing to say, I feel like.
He's here to give the hot takes, man.
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, no, it's,
listen, we take any take here.
You would rather see,
you would rather see Benavides fight Canelo than Better B?
When we're talking about peaks,
the hype for Benavides Canelo is probably, like,
one of the most anticipated fights.
Okay, peaks, yes.
You're right. No, I agree with you, yeah.
As it is today.
It's like, bro, today.
Yeah, I would, I think.
I can tell you this right now.
Benavides Canelo would, so, like.
Oh, definitely.
Of course.
By double, probably.
Double, definitely.
The thing is that, honestly,
I still don't see Canelo giving that fight to Benavides.
And so I think the next best option
would be a shot at Undisputed with Better B,
which is gonna be a hard fight, you know what I mean?
And if he wins against B-Vole,
that would be crazy to see.
It'd be fun to watch.
I mean, even for me, I mean, even a couple years ago,
I just, this might sound crazy.
Y'all can judge me all you want.
I honestly thought that Canelo was gonna fight Better B
by one point.
And I was up for that, too.
I was so excited for that fight.
I could obviously remember about it, too.
But obviously that never happened.
So this is the best, best option for me.
I mean, that's why I'm a little biased in this section.
Yeah, I mean, these matchups at the top of 125,
all of them are good.
Like, there's not a wrong answer.
Oh, yeah.
No, yeah, there's a lot of good options out there right now.
It's very exciting times of boxing right now.
Very exciting.
Probably the most exciting it's been since
the Mayweather days.
And in every division, too, like it's-
We've had good years in the meantime.
We've had some solid years,
but there was also the boxing dark age
that we shall not forget.
But I think we've come out to prosper.
Yeah.
I know, from 2023 and on, dude,
it's been gangbusters, dude.
Yeah.
Gangbusters.
Great fight, it's a great fight, dude.
It's a bunch, yeah.
This year, like, it's already started off with a banger.
Yeah, this year, it's already-
I mean, it starts well and ends well.
See how it goes in the middle,
but the start looks pretty good.
I mean, drama in Las Vegas at the beginning of the year
is already amazing.
I'm expecting at the end of the year,
probably something.
I'm honestly expecting AJ Fury at the end of the year,
sometime near the end of the year.
That would be an insane fight, yeah.
I mean, a lot of, the world would love that.
I also see Canelo Crawford in September.
Yeah, exactly.
That's what I'm saying.
We have a start.
The start is already insane, like, Benavides Morel.
We got the last Machendo as well.
DuPont Parker, Virgil Magrimoff.
There's, I mean, a ton of fights on that card.
Yeah, like, you see what I mean?
We'll probably end well as well, but.
Yeah, man, 125 is looking good.
It's very, very top heavy, but.
A lot of fights.
I would say this is a similar situation
where there's a lot of good fights
that you can make at, like, the B level.
Yeah.
You take out the two kings and, you know,
like, Benavides, and there's a ton of fights
that you can make that are really, really entertaining.
You have a lot of Super Six tournament style matches
that you can make.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
Any Benavides matchup is gonna be good.
Gangbusters.
Yeah, any matchup.
All right, we have to, we gotta fucking press on here.
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Thursday, February 13th.
Only two fights on this card.
It's a star promotions card in Huntington, New York.
Only two that I wanna mention.
Mickey Scala, he's a local boy for me,
versus Victor Tony.
So eight round 154s and then Joe Smith.
That-
Holy shit.
Yeah, he's still doing it.
I'm surprised. I did not think he was fighting good.
No, I saw Joseph, Jr.
I'm like, what the fuck?
Yep, versus Devontae Williams.
10 round cruisers.
So that's fun.
I'll hear Izzy talk about it.
I'll listen to Izzy talk about it.
Not much to say about it.
It's like he's old and doing this for cash, I expect.
Yeah.
Friday, February 14th.
Top rank at the MSG theater in New York.
Bottom up as we usually do.
Juanma Lopez de Jesus making his debut
against Brian Santiago.
Kion Davis versus Ira Johnson at-
DB3.
Is he a DB3?
Yeah, it's Kion and then obviously Keyshawn
and then someone, what's the other brother's name?
Not sure.
That's why I was wondering.
Cause they all fought on the same card,
Keyshawn last time, DB3.
Moving up.
Nico Ali Walsh versus Juan Carlos Guerra.
Six round middles.
Now, the fun fact, I don't know if you guys know this.
It's kind of like a boxing insider kind of secret.
Nico Ali Walsh is actually Muhammad Ali's grandson.
Did you know that?
Really? I didn't know that.
Yeah, I know.
I know top rank really tries to keep that under wraps.
So-
Yeah, that makes sense.
Yeah.
I don't know why top rank doesn't advertise that one.
Yeah, you should.
They'll probably make a whole lot of money.
Lean into it.
All right, Delante Johnson versus,
oh shit, Koshan, I think it is.
Toler, eight round welters.
Abdullah Mason.
There you go.
Manuel James, eight round lights.
I don't know if people are being a little bit too hyperbolic
on Mason's last performance.
He did get knocked down twice.
I would say both of them were flash KDs.
He didn't look bothered.
Cause he came back both times to put a whooping on the opponent.
I was wondering where I had, I was just gonna say,
I was wondering where I had heard this name before.
He fought Rowley.
Yeah, you fought him during the Belonga card, right?
I was gonna say it was Timo Borrino.
So probably, yeah, it was probably a big card.
Yeah, it was last year on the Belonga.
Yeah.
I was wondering where I'd seen his name before.
Well, Abdullah Mason.
If Peyton Talbot can put it back together, so can you.
I believe in you.
Hopefully it is, will ya?
Yeah, hopefully.
Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully.
Moving up Vito Melnicki, 10 rounds at middleweight
versus Connor Coyle.
Melnicki's a recent acquisition to the top rank family.
He used to be on PBC.
I remember that.
In the old days.
Yeah.
Rohan Polanco versus Jean Carlos Torres.
10 round welters.
Oh shit, Jared Anderson.
Come back, real clever to come back.
Don't call it a comeback.
Mario's, Colley.
I just hear it.
Yeah, I mean, this is just to get him back on track,
I'm assuming, like, and I don't know who Mario's is.
Yeah, I don't know who he's either.
I'm assuming he's meant to win this fight.
Yeah.
What'd you guys, $5 gonna say that this is the best
that Jared Anderson, Jared Anderson,
and that he's never looked any better?
I mean, the Colley loss was bad.
His chain got cracked like multiple times.
I'm actually gonna be curious to see.
It's either you look better or you look like shit
after a loss like that.
Yeah, you still in it for the money?
Yeah, I mean, taking that fight,
and like, you know, even against top ranks,
advice telling him not to take that fight,
that's normally a bad sign.
You know, he's money hungry, but we'll see.
I gotta respect the guy though.
I respect him for going in the fight.
That was a hard fight that I don't think
many would have won.
Yeah, I mean.
I don't think people know who Bacolay is,
and that's why they didn't know what to expect.
Yeah, I mean, Bacolay, he looked like a giant
in there in comparison.
Yeah.
It's huge.
All right, moving up, Xander Zayas versus Slava Spomer.
10 round 154s.
Oh, fun, Xander Zayas.
Nice.
So, look at the rankings.
And in the main event, Dennis Branschek,
the WBO 135 champ versus Keyshawn Davis.
Well, WBO, whatever Bob orders,
he's gotta make sure that his guys have the title
that he pays for.
It's a top ranked. It's time.
Sponsored.
It's a top ranked title, it really is.
I was gonna say it's time.
Keyshawn's gonna get a belt.
It is time for Keyshawn to become a champ.
Hold up, hold up, hold up.
I think y'all don't count out Derris Berenshik,
do not count out the guy.
Even though, yes, I think Keyshawn will win too.
At the same time, Berenshik is not walking the park.
No, he's not.
You're absolutely right.
He's Ukrainian, so they have like some natural
gifts for boxing, but.
They've got like a plus five deal.
Yeah, they got some buffs.
Yeah, oh, really?
They got Usyk.
They got Usyk at least, but yeah,
I'm gonna be back in Keyshawn.
Spouchuk.
Yeah.
I got Keyshawn too, but the thing is,
it's gonna be, I for sure think it's gonna be
Keyshawn's hardest fight.
Technical fight.
No doubt about it.
Berenshik isn't like a brawler or anything.
No?
Dude, that's how he beat Nav.
That's how he beat Nav.
Yeah, he beat Nav.
By brawling?
No, no, like by not brawling.
By technical.
Box the hell out of him.
And Nav's a quote unquote hard puncher, you know?
It's like, Berenshik to beat Nav,
it's pretty interesting.
I remember a lot of people saying at the time
that Nav was gonna kill Berenshik.
You guys all remember that?
I do.
Y'all remember that, right?
Yeah, it was casual.
I don't always throw it out
because I don't like using the term,
but like that's some casual shit.
Do you not know who Berenshik is?
I see, were you one of the people who was saying that?
No, I wasn't.
I thought Nav was gonna win,
but he wasn't gonna like bop him out or anything like that.
Yeah, I mean, Nav, historically,
I mean, if you put him up against a brawler,
I feel like he has like good chances to win,
but against a boxer,
like someone actually like-
Oh, Keeshawn is that type too.
He could box him.
Yeah, it's, he can get rough, but yeah.
I could, yeah, you're right.
Sting, it can get rough for Keeshawn.
It can get really rough real fast for Keeshawn.
If he doesn't pick a punch right.
He's like, Keeshawn is riding on a pretty big wave
at the moment.
He created like off the Lemosh win.
That Lemosh win was good.
I mean, sometime Lemosh came in over way, I mean,
Keeshawn just laid him out like super easy.
I mean, he's riding on a big wave.
He can get this win, he gets the belt.
I mean, Keeshawn is on his way.
I mean, he's not gonna,
I'm not saying he's gonna be selling out
million dollar pay-per-views
or a million pay-per-views any time soon,
but he's on his way to be like somewhat of a well-known
and respected name.
A pay-per-view.
Yeah, I mean, someone that you can put on a pay-per-view
and he'll sell.
My thing is that if Keeshawn needs more fights
to become a pay-per-view star
and to become at least well-known,
I think if to become well-known,
he would have to fight Shakur at the very least.
Not Tank, obviously,
cause I think Tank would kill him,
but Shakur would be a good fight for him.
Honestly, I think that Keeshawn could win.
You think Shakur would win?
It's a tall ask.
Oh yeah, well.
It's a tall ask.
Shakur's asking, yeah.
Actually, the thing is with that fight,
I think it'd go either way.
I think on paper it's like a 60-40 fight.
You know what I mean?
I think Shakur has a solid chance of beating Keeshawn,
but he's got a lot of skill.
Keeshawn's got a lot of skill too.
So you never know how it's gonna turn out.
It would be a fight that people
would definitely wanna see though.
That's a good match.
Like if they made that fight, Keeshawn versus Shakur,
he would walk away being like,
oh, this is a legitimate fight.
They're not fighting cans.
This is a legit best versus best type fight.
And with Shakur too, you have the whole top-ranked beef
with how he left top-ranked.
I mean, they can have that in there too.
So they're leapfrogging promotions, but yeah.
Keeshawn, this is a big step up.
This is Keeshawn's chance.
We had a ride with him.
I mean, I saw him in the Olympics,
his whole Olympic run that he made.
It was impressive.
No, it was great.
I remember, it was amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah, I think if Keeshawn wins,
I think he should go for Shakur next.
If not Shakur, probably someone like Zapeta.
Zapeta would be a good one.
It would be interesting to see who we cause out.
I'm sorry, I just want someone to be sure.
Zapeta right now, I don't know what he's doing.
I mean, they're talking about the farmer rematch
and I don't know what's going on in Zapeta's camp
at the moment, but yes, yes.
Zapeta's camp is pissing me off, man.
Yeah, it's gone so awry.
I don't know.
It's like in less than a year,
Zapeta's image has just sunk so low.
Low, low, like really, really low.
We're like, he's own fucking, that's stable, mate.
And Goldenboy, Floyd Schofield.
He's fighting Shakur before him.
Yeah, that's some shit.
It's like, that's kind of bold.
Because I think Floyd's Zapeta
really should have gotten that fight first.
Of course he should have.
But obviously not, you know.
We'll see if that gets made,
the fight gets made for the Goldenboy in matchroom 5v5,
if that even happens.
That was one of the fights that they had floated,
was Shakur, assuming he beats Schofield.
But yeah.
Assuming, yeah.
So. Well, we'll see.
Yeah, anything more for Branschek versus Davis,
the Valentine's Day card?
This is a decent card, I'm gonna lie.
It is.
Are you guys gonna be busy on that day
or are you gonna watch the fight?
Oh, I wouldn't be a boxing fucking sicko
if I had a girlfriend or something, so.
Sex, sex, sex.
I used to come out here.
She'd be watching that shit with me.
Exactly.
Yeah.
Like, hold up, I'll give you a photo later.
Keyshawn's fighting right now, all right?
He's gonna get better, hold up.
Unfortunately, February 14th, line down.
I'm gonna be up on a boxing day, so.
Yeah.
I would honestly throw out the old,
I don't know, Marxist thing.
Like, it's a commercial holiday.
Why are you gonna feed the capitalist pigs
with your bullshit fucking holiday made up?
You whip it out, yeah.
Yeah.
You're gonna justify this?
Yeah.
I gotta justify being a sicko.
Like, it's a Ukrainian.
This is the last chance that we have
to be on the right side of history here.
As sex.
It's not Valentine's Day, it's brain check versus Davis.
It's David's Day, it's David's Day.
It's David's Day.
David's Day, yes.
All right, moving on.
Saturday, February 15th, really quickly, the Samson card.
Well, we've already discussed how we feel about this fellow.
But this one's in Buenos Aires.
It's, actually, I bring this one up to mention
that the Spanish language show's coming back.
So, boxing en español, we're gonna be doing it again.
There you go.
We'll be talking about the, like,
we talk about these types of cards more over there.
So if you wanna get into the,
if you wanna talk like Japanese fucking shit, come here.
Because we do that here.
But if you wanna talk like Latino cards,
we got you over there.
Right, last thing.
Co-live arena in Manchester, matchroom.
Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa.
Oh, not too, not too fucking jazzed
about the main, about the undercard.
But I'm gonna list them really quickly anyway,
because yes.
Pat McCormick versus Robbie Davies Jr.
10 round welters.
Reese Bellotti versus Michael Gomez Jr.
12 round, 130s.
Zelfa Barrett versus Jazza Dickens.
12 round, 130s.
Fun.
That is a fun card right there.
It's a fun card.
Can't wait to watch it.
Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa
for the interim WBO super lightweight title, it's 140.
It's fun, man.
I'm beside myself.
This is just incredible.
I'm off watching Arnold Barbosa Jr. fight.
I'm not too-
My favorite fighter.
Unironically, I do kind of like him,
just because of his personality, more than his fighting.
No, yeah, me too.
I respect the guy, he's very humble.
Yeah.
But I just can't help but just-
It's not the best.
This isn't the best we get to be going into.
Yep, and I think you're forgetting the Golden Boy.
Is there a Golden Boy?
I don't know.
The best fight of the night, pro Gravers is Orte.
That's right, they're on the same day.
I forgot about that, Oscar Duarte versus-
That's another guy who just can't quit, it's Pro Grave.
Pro Grave, I like him.
Duarte really might do him dirty.
Yeah, I think so too.
I mean, yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens that day.
Yeah, if Pro Grave got hurt by Haney,
Duarte might actually have him out cold.
If Pro Grave can,
imagine if Pro Grave knocked the fuck out of Duarte.
That would be-
That would be wonderful.
I mean, I don't even know if you can call him a surgeon,
because his career is not really gonna go anywhere,
but it would be an insane upset, I think.
Like, I don't know what Vegas has in my body,
Duarte has to be the favorite.
But you could get that point,
after that you'd have Pro Grave versus Broly,
and then after that you have Pro Grave versus Ryan.
Just step back to the title holder.
The title.
Pro Grave, give me a sec.
Was there ever a lot of Pro Grave hype?
Yeah, there was a point-
Before the World Boxing Super Series.
Yeah, there was a point where people had Pro Grave
over the people like Haney, T-Tale, Tank,
they had Pro Grave over everyone.
Interesting.
Yeah, I-
It was a long time ago.
Long, yeah, it sounds like a long time ago, yeah.
It was.
Quite some time.
Wonder how Teal Fumah mixes into all of this.
I remember he was gonna fight,
he said he was gonna fight in February,
but he's a fucking liar.
Yeah, and I was gonna date Sydney Sweeney.
How's that going for me?
Well, I said that too.
Yeah, exactly.
How's that going?
I guess you stole my girl then, I guess.
No.
Oh, but-
Is it just-
Doesn't, apparently.
There's stuff going on, like the February,
like the 15th kinda sucks, yes.
Yes.
But like the 13th, if you wanna see,
like if nothing else, Joe Smith Jr.,
Devontae Williams should be entertaining a little bit,
at least a little bit.
But Mickey Scala, that is a fucking prospect
to keep your eye on.
If you're not on game, get the fuck on game,
because I'm telling you, Mickey Scala is solid.
The top-rank card on the 14th, excellent card.
Excellent, excellent card.
You get to see Muhammad Ali's grandson.
Are you shitting on my balls?
What else do you want?
Wait, I see, I see where he has lost.
Yeah, he did.
He lied to me.
He ain't Muhammad Ali's grandson.
Muhammad Ali lost more than a fair few of his-
Yeah, but he was the greatest though,
so he gets a pass.
Yeah, of course.
He was supposed to be,
apparently Jesus is next coming.
Next coming of Christ.
I would say the prophet Muhammad's next coming.
Muhammad's next coming?
He's a nation of Islam guy.
Peace be upon him.
Abdul Wahid?
His actual name.
That's enough.
That's it.
That's all we got on the cards.
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It didn't close the deal despite today?
She did, but because of the timing of it,
I didn't include it on this.
It'll be on the recaps the next time.
Okay.
So we're heading into not a great Saturday,
but we do have a good Prospect Thursday,
a solid, solid Valentine's Day fight card on Friday,
and then, you know, stuff on.
A Valentine's Day massacre.
And then stuff on Saturday.
So parting words, what do we got?
Y'all know what I'm gonna say.
Yeah, go for it.
Let's go Virgil Ortiz.
Let's go Floyd Schofield.
Let's go Carlos Adames.
Oh, Carlos Adames.
I gotta add an Adames.
Damn.
I gotta add that in all the underdogs here.
Hey, hey, I love, I love the underdogs, man.
I love the underdogs.
You need to love the underdog.
That's the beautiful part about boxing.
The underdog can always win.
I'm quite fond of the B-sides.
Yeah, exactly.
Wow, perfect.
That's the perfect transition.
Thank you.
Yeah.
And it's not totally because I have a weird obsession
with these fighters and these underdogs.
It's because it's a boxing B-sides podcast, that's why.
They're the boxing B-sides.
We gotta back the B-side.
We gotta back the B-sides
because we're also the B-sides.
Soon to be A-side.
We'll get there.
But I just wanna say that I love boxing, man.
Benefit is morale.
We delivered some crazy stuff.
This is why I love this sport.
All right, shit.
Cool.
We are outta here.
We'll see you on the other side of this bleakish weekend,
but it's a good run a few days.
We'll see you on the other side of it.
Love your listeners.
And I'll see you on the other side of it.