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This is the B-Sides boxing podcast.

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["B-Sides in Boxing"]

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["B-Sides in Boxing"]

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Boxing fucking B-Sides.

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I gotta add some foul language in there

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because the ultimate fucking casuals

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can't have a monopoly on it.

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I won't allow it.

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But yeah, we were just talking about it.

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You wanna get, anytime.

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If news pops up at any point in time,

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833-589-7637, call and let me know what you think about it

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and I'll cut it in at the appropriate time.

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And that's how it goes.

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Man.

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Isaac, how are you doing?

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You okay?

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I'm doing all right.

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You sure?

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Cause it is real, dead Sonja.

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My man is dead.

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He's down.

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Shots fired.

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It was a very sad sight.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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I mean, it's one of those things,

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you get closure at the very least.

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True.

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You get closure, it's time.

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I'm just gonna go ahead and say it's time.

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Yeah.

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Lay the gloves down, stick to coaching or whatever.

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What did I say about the Pedraza last time?

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Hopefully this is the retirement moment.

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Yeah, hopefully.

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Hopefully.

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Yeah, this is, I mean, he used all of his life force

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for that potato knockout.

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But that's, I mean, it's not been going well really

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since then.

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Oh, it hasn't.

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Competitive with DDP, in hindsight,

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maybe it's not quite as good.

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Like he could have been more dominant

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if he had been younger.

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he looked okay to start.

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I mean, it's not like he got steamrolled,

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but one of the first few punches that like landed flush

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just finished him.

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So I mean, yeah, the resistance may be completely shot

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at this point.

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Go to Virgil Hunter.

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That man knows how to tighten up defense.

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Sure.

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At the cost of everything else.

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Oh, Alex, did you catch the Aded Sonia moment?

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I caught the highlights of it.

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And when I got sad, I got sad.

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I remember only a few years ago,

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people were talking everything.

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They were talking it up about Aded Sonia, man.

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Saying he's gonna be the fucking king of the sport.

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This, this and that.

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You know what I mean?

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You know what I mean?

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Yeah, I mean, he sort of was.

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He reached a pretty high peak.

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Like not even some champions reach.

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He made a crazy amount of money in his career,

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but it's obviously gonna be weird

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without him in the sport.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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It's gonna be a bit weird.

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Like have a UFC promotion that he's not fighting in,

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but maybe he'll, I'm sure he'll still show up

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to fight Spirit Ugly and support his like New Zealand camp.

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As well.

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Show us some support.

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We'll see.

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City kickboxing, is that what they were?

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Yeah, city kickboxing, yeah.

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DKB.

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Well, I hear GFL is looking for people.

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GFL.

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Man, he would be, he would run through.

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He would run GFL.

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Absolutely.

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It would not even be competitive.

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I'm not, he would do them so bad.

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But yeah, we'll be talking about that one.

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That's over on Ultimate F and Casuals.

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Wherever you're listening to this,

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Fun.

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So recaps, holy shit.

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Let's get through some quick ones.

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On the 31st of January,

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Junaid Bostan versus Bilal Fawaz.

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That was a draw.

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George Lidard versus Derek Osaze.

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Lidard gets the UD.

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And Giorgio Viosoli, RTD 5.

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I think that's, Homeboy didn't want to come out

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after the fourth.

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I think that's what RTDs are in the UK.

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Versus Brian Barajas.

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Fun.

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That was the matchroom next gen.

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So it's like their prospect, prospect series.

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Only one fight, on the first, on Saturday,

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in Wendley, boxer Adam Azeem stopped Sergey Lipinets

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in the ninth to claim the IBO 140 title.

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The biggest fight of the weekend.

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Absolutely.

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I don't even, is there any more boxing after this?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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I don't think so.

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I don't think so.

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This guy's a king of sport.

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So that was that.

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I thought Lipinets was gonna be a little better,

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but of our pick league,

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I was the only one that didn't pick Azeem.

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Right, now, the fucking meat of the dish,

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PBC at the T-Mobile Arena in Las Vegas.

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Someone, somewhere, Rick Laser is crying in a corner

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for how fucking wonderful this card was.

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So bottom up, as we usually do,

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Yohann Lee Hernandez, TKO 5 over Angel Astorga.

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Oh, I underestimated Hernandez here.

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And I also didn't know who Astorga was.

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So I just picked Astorga, cause I'm not very bright.

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Hey, Leo, I think you're missing a fighter on here, man.

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Who?

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Oh, Kermel.

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It was a late edition.

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It was, I know.

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That's why I forgot about it.

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Kermel Moten, he opened up the card, didn't he?

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Yeah.

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Yeah, he was like the first one.

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I think he was on the YouTube portion.

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He was on the prelims, yeah.

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So what?

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I honestly didn't see it.

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School me up.

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You gotta knock out.

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In the...

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I believe it was, I know I got a knock out,

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but I think it was in the seventh.

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I remember now.

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Yeah, it was like a, it's not like you put him up cold.

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It was like a TKO though, no?

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No, yeah, you got the, yeah, you got a TKO, yeah.

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And something like that.

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I was going to work.

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I was on my way to work.

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Dude, Moten looks massive, by the way.

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He is.

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Kermel looks massive for that.

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That could go up to welterweight.

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He got a TKO three out of eight over Frank Saldivar.

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What the hell was I saying, bro?

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I came around seven, what the hell's wrong with me?

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I didn't know you got the TKO.

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They fight at 135 and Kermel looks like a Canelo at one.

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Yeah, dude, he looks...

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He could do 147.

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He's probably will.

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He's going to get to that point.

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I think he should become a little more fleshed out

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135 though.

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Yeah, he would have got up there probably.

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He's already got up two weight classes, correct?

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He is 18 years old.

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No one should be pressing him for fighting Cans

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at the moment.

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No, fuck no.

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He is meant to fight Cans right now.

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This is where, yeah, he's 18.

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This is his, he just won his seventh fight.

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This is what you're supposed to be doing.

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This is development.

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A very promising prospect, I'll tell you that.

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Very, very promising.

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Very, very promising prospect.

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You know, at 135, they have a lot

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of promising prospects there, dude.

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A lot of promising prospects.

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I'm looking forward to seeing him fight in the future.

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Yeah, the Mayweather promotions doesn't really have

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like a massive stable, but Moten is a giant.

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When they...

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They don't have a lot, but when they do pick up a prospect,

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they are always like, pardon the pun,

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they're on the money with it.

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Moen's been with Mayweather.

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Moen's been with Mayweather since he was a kid.

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Yeah, pretty much.

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That's his boy right there.

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That's his little boy right there at that point.

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Yeah, that's very good company to be around, but yeah.

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But that's Kermel.

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He's still doing it.

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I honestly thought he was a joke.

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Like the first time I had ever heard of him,

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people were saying Kermelo.

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Like, because Canelo was fighting that day.

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He's like, when's Kermelo fighting?

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Like who are you talking about?

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Is this what it sounds to me?

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Kermelo.

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Moen is up.

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Jesus Ramos.

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These are out of order.

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Whatever, it doesn't really matter.

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I don't know.

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Jesus Ramos stops Jason Rosario in the eighth.

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Good stuff.

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This was not at 154 as I originally thought it was at 160.

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Yeah dude, Jason, bro, it's rough times for him out here.

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I'm not gonna lie.

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He did better between the Jarrett Hurd fight and this one.

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He gave, he's given a really good account of himself.

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He can still keep going, but if you're not,

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if you're struggling with Jesus Ramos,

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it might be time to like dial back your expectations

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of where you're gonna go.

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But you can tell who's like invested into it.

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Cause like he gets super pissed whenever he doesn't do well.

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Yes.

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He gave it his all.

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Yeah, he tried to really work his ass off.

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Nothing he can do.

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Whenever he got knocked down,

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he was incredibly pissed.

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Yeah.

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I mean, I had himself, but he still cares about winning.

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It's not like he's just doing it for the money.

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Right.

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Ramos, I'd love to say it.

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I know that it's not pronounced this way

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based on how it's spelled,

273
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but here in Arizona, we call where Jesus Ramos is from,

274
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we call it Casa Grande.

275
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Everyone calls it that, even the Spanish speakers.

276
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But I always refer to that place as a pit of despair

277
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because it's really bleak, it's sad.

278
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It's like commerce city, but more desert.

279
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Commerce city, a little bit of a cut for some people.

280
00:11:06,860 --> 00:11:11,860
But Ramos, man, that bullshit with Eriksson Lubin

281
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set him back when he absolutely should not have been.

282
00:11:16,860 --> 00:11:19,100
He beat Lubin without a doubt.

283
00:11:19,100 --> 00:11:22,020
He was just too polite to say so.

284
00:11:22,020 --> 00:11:23,820
He definitely won that fight.

285
00:11:23,820 --> 00:11:25,900
Yeah, I don't know.

286
00:11:25,900 --> 00:11:29,940
Ramos said he's going back to 154, so that's good.

287
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There's a lot of good fights to be made there.

288
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Mm-hmm, good money fights.

289
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Do you think you'd be in contention

290
00:11:36,540 --> 00:11:38,660
with all the other fighters that they have there or what?

291
00:11:38,660 --> 00:11:40,460
That's what I was just pulling up a little bit.

292
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That's what I was just pulling up the list here.

293
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So Jesus Ramos was...

294
00:11:48,540 --> 00:11:51,460
Oh, he's at number eight now.

295
00:11:51,460 --> 00:11:54,820
This is just watch the ring, so take it with a grain of salt.

296
00:11:54,820 --> 00:11:58,500
He would fucking whoop Xander Zayas,

297
00:11:58,500 --> 00:12:01,060
like not even, it's not even close.

298
00:12:02,140 --> 00:12:06,340
Sergey Bohochuk, that would be an incredible scrap.

299
00:12:06,340 --> 00:12:08,420
Oh my goodness.

300
00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:09,820
Anybody fighting Bohochuk.

301
00:12:09,820 --> 00:12:10,660
Yeah, absolutely.

302
00:12:10,660 --> 00:12:14,220
Yeah, I would say Bohochuk himself will so.

303
00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:19,220
Madrimov, I'm not sure how I rate Ramos against Madrimov.

304
00:12:19,620 --> 00:12:22,860
I see how Madrimov does against certain Virgil Ortiz.

305
00:12:22,860 --> 00:12:24,700
Yeah. Our boy.

306
00:12:24,700 --> 00:12:27,140
Our man, our king, Virgil Ortiz.

307
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Friends of the pod, Virgil Ortiz,

308
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I know you're listening, pal.

309
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We're behind you 100%.

310
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Tim Tzu.

311
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He's like on a down slope right now.

312
00:12:40,140 --> 00:12:42,580
Jesus Ramos is super tough.

313
00:12:42,580 --> 00:12:44,140
That's a super tough matchup.

314
00:12:44,140 --> 00:12:45,100
Oh.

315
00:12:45,100 --> 00:12:46,460
I wouldn't put him with Tim Tzu.

316
00:12:46,460 --> 00:12:50,300
Yeah, if you want to keep Tim Tzu marketable, no.

317
00:12:50,300 --> 00:12:52,500
He's going to go back to Australia, I feel like.

318
00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:54,820
He's got to rebuild a little bit.

319
00:12:54,820 --> 00:12:56,540
Yeah, I was going to say he's got to get some wind back

320
00:12:56,540 --> 00:12:58,660
because that was a really rough loss.

321
00:12:58,660 --> 00:13:00,700
Last year was really rough for him.

322
00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:02,940
Tim Amunghi had, I didn't get a worse year than Amunghi,

323
00:13:02,940 --> 00:13:04,620
honestly, he had a way worse year than Amunghi.

324
00:13:04,620 --> 00:13:05,820
I would say he did.

325
00:13:05,820 --> 00:13:07,860
He lost everything last year.

326
00:13:07,860 --> 00:13:09,100
Everything.

327
00:13:09,100 --> 00:13:14,100
Moving up, Mirko Cuello, TKO 10, question mark

328
00:13:14,100 --> 00:13:15,500
over Christian Olivo.

329
00:13:15,500 --> 00:13:19,060
So the sequence, the final sequence as it played out,

330
00:13:19,060 --> 00:13:23,900
Olivo was beating Cuello's ass, like the entire fight,

331
00:13:23,900 --> 00:13:27,500
except as he started to gas in like the ninth and 10th,

332
00:13:27,500 --> 00:13:29,740
he got hit with a body shot, he went down.

333
00:13:29,740 --> 00:13:30,700
Understandable.

334
00:13:30,700 --> 00:13:33,900
He gets up, he's fine, he continues,

335
00:13:33,900 --> 00:13:35,420
gets hit with another body shot,

336
00:13:35,420 --> 00:13:37,900
kind of the same one, goes down again,

337
00:13:37,900 --> 00:13:39,900
and this time the ref waves it off.

338
00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:42,340
And that's why I say TKO, question mark,

339
00:13:42,340 --> 00:13:47,340
because I think that they were trying to save Cuello,

340
00:13:47,580 --> 00:13:48,420
just my thinking.

341
00:13:48,420 --> 00:13:50,740
Very questionable, very questionable.

342
00:13:50,740 --> 00:13:53,180
I feel like you have to let it go to three knockdowns.

343
00:13:53,180 --> 00:13:54,020
Yeah.

344
00:13:54,020 --> 00:13:55,100
Like you have to, like, I mean,

345
00:13:55,100 --> 00:13:56,100
that's when you can start considering it.

346
00:13:56,100 --> 00:13:58,340
It's not like he, he was mentally still there.

347
00:13:58,340 --> 00:14:01,300
Yeah, there was like 45 seconds left in the round.

348
00:14:01,300 --> 00:14:04,180
If he could hang on the rest of that minute,

349
00:14:04,180 --> 00:14:05,300
he would have won.

350
00:14:05,300 --> 00:14:07,540
Yeah, dude, it was incredibly sad,

351
00:14:07,540 --> 00:14:11,260
like after the fight, when like they panned the camera

352
00:14:11,260 --> 00:14:13,020
over to him, like as he was walking out of the ring

353
00:14:13,020 --> 00:14:14,660
and like going back to the locker room

354
00:14:14,660 --> 00:14:17,980
and they read the scorecards, he was up.

355
00:14:17,980 --> 00:14:20,900
I was like, bro, he had like a minute left.

356
00:14:22,020 --> 00:14:23,740
You for sure was crying in that.

357
00:14:23,740 --> 00:14:24,820
In that.

358
00:14:24,820 --> 00:14:27,740
That feels like whenever it would be a robbery,

359
00:14:27,740 --> 00:14:31,860
like you jobbed him, he could have went to the end.

360
00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:33,180
That would have been a massive win.

361
00:14:33,180 --> 00:14:35,340
That would have been an insanely massive win for him.

362
00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:36,180
Yeah.

363
00:14:36,180 --> 00:14:37,740
He had a save their boy.

364
00:14:37,740 --> 00:14:38,580
They had a save their boy.

365
00:14:38,580 --> 00:14:41,620
By the way, an insane fight, by the way, as well.

366
00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:42,460
That was fun.

367
00:14:42,460 --> 00:14:43,780
That was like pure action.

368
00:14:43,780 --> 00:14:45,220
It's pure fun.

369
00:14:45,220 --> 00:14:48,260
Quayo is a Samson fighter.

370
00:14:48,260 --> 00:14:51,700
So, you know, make of that what you will.

371
00:14:53,140 --> 00:14:56,140
Do we have certain opinions about Samson on here?

372
00:14:56,140 --> 00:14:58,660
Whatever opinion you want to share.

373
00:14:58,660 --> 00:15:00,900
Well, I want to hear your guys' opinion first.

374
00:15:00,900 --> 00:15:02,460
I think he's all right.

375
00:15:02,460 --> 00:15:07,380
I think he does really well, like inside of South America,

376
00:15:07,380 --> 00:15:11,940
like he promotes a lot in Uruguay and Argentina.

377
00:15:11,940 --> 00:15:16,940
In those spots, he does really good things for fighters

378
00:15:17,180 --> 00:15:21,220
to elevate them and get them onto the world stage.

379
00:15:21,220 --> 00:15:23,220
After that, I don't know how,

380
00:15:23,220 --> 00:15:25,500
I don't think I feel that greatly about him.

381
00:15:25,500 --> 00:15:27,180
Yeah, me either.

382
00:15:27,180 --> 00:15:28,780
I really do not like Samson.

383
00:15:28,780 --> 00:15:31,980
Promoters and being crooks.

384
00:15:31,980 --> 00:15:33,300
Oh, what?

385
00:15:33,300 --> 00:15:35,180
I mean, okay, yeah, you're right.

386
00:15:35,180 --> 00:15:36,540
You're right, you're right.

387
00:15:36,540 --> 00:15:38,140
You know what, let's move on, let's move on.

388
00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:43,140
Because like David Benavides is fond of Samson.

389
00:15:43,540 --> 00:15:47,940
Both the fighting funduras, they like him too.

390
00:15:47,940 --> 00:15:51,500
So I don't know, like does it, I don't know.

391
00:15:51,500 --> 00:15:52,700
I don't know enough to say,

392
00:15:52,700 --> 00:15:56,460
but if you do find that article or whatever,

393
00:15:56,460 --> 00:15:58,300
then send it to me.

394
00:15:58,300 --> 00:15:59,300
I'd like to read it.

395
00:16:00,700 --> 00:16:01,540
Yeah, let's move on, let's move on.

396
00:16:01,540 --> 00:16:05,180
Let's cut that out, let's cut it out, let's cut that out.

397
00:16:05,180 --> 00:16:10,180
Moving up, Isaac Cruz, UD over Angel Fierro at 140, 10 rounds.

398
00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:16,380
Okay, so Cruz may have won that fight

399
00:16:16,380 --> 00:16:20,460
and he won it like competitively, but clearly.

400
00:16:20,460 --> 00:16:25,460
Fierro's stock is, he wins the moral story of the fight.

401
00:16:25,460 --> 00:16:27,280
This is a good one.

402
00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:31,100
Yeah, this is his stock went up.

403
00:16:31,100 --> 00:16:35,900
Cruz is like a little bit, you know, but Fierro like, man,

404
00:16:35,900 --> 00:16:38,060
I want to see more of him.

405
00:16:38,060 --> 00:16:39,420
I'm excited to see him.

406
00:16:39,420 --> 00:16:40,700
Another name in the division,

407
00:16:40,700 --> 00:16:43,180
because 140 is also pretty hot right now.

408
00:16:43,180 --> 00:16:45,300
And their matchups you can make there.

409
00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:48,100
Hot, you think 140 is hot right now?

410
00:16:48,100 --> 00:16:48,940
Let's have a look.

411
00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:49,780
140.

412
00:16:51,780 --> 00:16:53,380
I think it's dying down a lot, man.

413
00:16:53,380 --> 00:16:54,620
You're right.

414
00:16:54,620 --> 00:16:57,600
At the top, sure, but there's a lot of good matchups

415
00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,880
that you can make that are at like the B level.

416
00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:05,880
Like Catarol, Hiraoka, Subra Matias, Paro, still in it.

417
00:17:08,100 --> 00:17:11,820
Adam Aziz, just kind of stepped up to the next level.

418
00:17:11,820 --> 00:17:16,820
Arnold Barbosa, Jose Ramirez, Dalton Smith, still doing it.

419
00:17:17,220 --> 00:17:21,380
So there's, and Rayos, the title holder too.

420
00:17:21,380 --> 00:17:22,220
The thing is,

421
00:17:22,220 --> 00:17:23,380
he's up there.

422
00:17:23,380 --> 00:17:26,060
Yeah, I mean, T-Film was great,

423
00:17:26,060 --> 00:17:29,460
but a lot of the guys that with big name recognition

424
00:17:29,460 --> 00:17:31,700
are most likely going to move up to 147.

425
00:17:31,700 --> 00:17:32,540
Probably.

426
00:17:32,540 --> 00:17:33,980
From what I've seen.

427
00:17:33,980 --> 00:17:36,460
Just, I know Ryan, that's staying at 140 anymore.

428
00:17:36,460 --> 00:17:37,300
No.

429
00:17:37,300 --> 00:17:38,260
Devin Haney is not either.

430
00:17:38,260 --> 00:17:43,260
Pueyo, Oscar Duarte, Antoine Russell, Regis Progre,

431
00:17:43,260 --> 00:17:46,520
Brandon Lee, Michelle Rivera, Jermaine Ortiz.

432
00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:49,460
There's a ton of names,

433
00:17:49,460 --> 00:17:52,380
but it's not blockbuster fights.

434
00:17:52,380 --> 00:17:55,420
It's stuff for like sickos like us.

435
00:17:55,420 --> 00:17:56,260
Yeah, it's like us.

436
00:17:56,260 --> 00:17:58,140
For boxing, yeah, for boxing fans.

437
00:17:58,140 --> 00:18:00,300
Like Brandon Lee to us, like we're kind of,

438
00:18:00,300 --> 00:18:01,220
we're excited about that, right?

439
00:18:01,220 --> 00:18:02,260
I love Brandon Lee.

440
00:18:02,260 --> 00:18:04,060
He's my favorite.

441
00:18:04,060 --> 00:18:05,180
I love him.

442
00:18:05,180 --> 00:18:07,140
We love Brandon Lee here.

443
00:18:07,140 --> 00:18:08,580
Yeah, friend of the show, Brandon Lee.

444
00:18:08,580 --> 00:18:11,140
Whenever you want to talk, big dog, you let me know.

445
00:18:11,140 --> 00:18:15,500
By the way, Isaac Cruz, he needs to go down the weight.

446
00:18:15,500 --> 00:18:16,340
I'm just going to say.

447
00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:17,340
Yeah, he does.

448
00:18:17,340 --> 00:18:22,340
Cause the lead, that should have been a KO.

449
00:18:22,540 --> 00:18:23,660
The shots that he was landing.

450
00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:24,500
Absolutely.

451
00:18:25,540 --> 00:18:27,980
Should have been a KO, but everyone just too big.

452
00:18:27,980 --> 00:18:30,620
The aura does not work for people that you cannot count.

453
00:18:30,620 --> 00:18:32,420
Yes, he doesn't.

454
00:18:32,420 --> 00:18:34,420
He's got the gas tank, which is super cool,

455
00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:39,300
but like that, when you're not bothering somebody,

456
00:18:39,300 --> 00:18:43,220
then what are you really going to accomplish?

457
00:18:43,220 --> 00:18:45,180
The chickens that got in the water.

458
00:18:45,180 --> 00:18:46,500
Yeah, they will.

459
00:18:46,500 --> 00:18:47,380
It was a fun fight though.

460
00:18:47,380 --> 00:18:49,380
I mean, over a thousand punches thrown.

461
00:18:49,380 --> 00:18:50,220
Was it?

462
00:18:50,220 --> 00:18:51,300
Yeah.

463
00:18:51,300 --> 00:18:53,140
Yeah, it was a good bit over a thousand punches.

464
00:18:53,140 --> 00:18:53,980
It was a great fight.

465
00:18:53,980 --> 00:18:54,820
That was a great fight.

466
00:18:54,820 --> 00:18:55,660
It was fun.

467
00:18:55,660 --> 00:18:56,500
It was very entertaining.

468
00:18:56,500 --> 00:18:57,340
Game busters.

469
00:18:57,340 --> 00:18:59,300
Game busters.

470
00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:02,500
All right, anything more for Cruz, Viero?

471
00:19:03,660 --> 00:19:05,860
I agree with Isaac on the fact that Cruz definitely

472
00:19:05,860 --> 00:19:07,420
needs to go back down to 135.

473
00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:10,540
He needs to get down to 126 so he can fight Nick Ball.

474
00:19:10,540 --> 00:19:15,540
I was saying, 135 might even still be too big for him.

475
00:19:15,540 --> 00:19:16,940
Like, 130, I mean.

476
00:19:16,940 --> 00:19:19,700
It's a little more doable, but yeah.

477
00:19:19,700 --> 00:19:21,500
He may just not.

478
00:19:21,500 --> 00:19:22,340
Going down that much though.

479
00:19:22,340 --> 00:19:25,580
He may not like, kind of weight at all,

480
00:19:25,580 --> 00:19:27,700
but is what I think is happening.

481
00:19:27,700 --> 00:19:28,940
He might like to eat.

482
00:19:28,940 --> 00:19:30,460
He likes his beans and rice.

483
00:19:30,460 --> 00:19:31,300
It's like me.

484
00:19:31,300 --> 00:19:34,460
Shannada said that it's like taco, taco cuts.

485
00:19:34,460 --> 00:19:36,900
Do you want to cut the tacos or no?

486
00:19:36,900 --> 00:19:38,380
He is stocky as hell, bro.

487
00:19:38,380 --> 00:19:39,220
He is, he is.

488
00:19:39,220 --> 00:19:42,300
And his neck is like a fucking tree trunk.

489
00:19:42,300 --> 00:19:43,140
Stick.

490
00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:43,980
Dog, stick.

491
00:19:43,980 --> 00:19:45,820
No one can knock him out.

492
00:19:45,820 --> 00:19:47,740
No, I don't think so.

493
00:19:47,740 --> 00:19:49,820
Well, well.

494
00:19:49,820 --> 00:19:52,100
He had to go like up weight divisions.

495
00:19:52,100 --> 00:19:54,220
Like, way out of his weight division.

496
00:19:54,220 --> 00:19:59,060
I honestly think that Ryan, Ryan could knock him out.

497
00:19:59,060 --> 00:20:00,620
I think Ryan could knock him out.

498
00:20:00,620 --> 00:20:02,660
Aren't they supposed to fight?

499
00:20:02,660 --> 00:20:03,500
They were.

500
00:20:03,500 --> 00:20:05,780
It was rumored, but Cruz said no because like,

501
00:20:05,780 --> 00:20:08,580
he still had to finish this fight with Viero.

502
00:20:08,580 --> 00:20:12,500
But yeah, I mean, at 147 Cruz is getting knocked out, yeah.

503
00:20:12,500 --> 00:20:13,500
Oh, for sure.

504
00:20:13,500 --> 00:20:14,340
Boots.

505
00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:19,340
I mean, the thing is, at 135, what is there for Cruz?

506
00:20:20,100 --> 00:20:20,940
Barrios.

507
00:20:20,940 --> 00:20:23,220
He's going to be, he's going to be with Barrios?

508
00:20:23,220 --> 00:20:25,980
It's an easier fight at 147.

509
00:20:25,980 --> 00:20:27,380
Oh no, I'm at 135.

510
00:20:27,380 --> 00:20:28,420
Oh, at 35.

511
00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:31,100
Okay, so I have the list up if we want to go down

512
00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:32,820
the old box, Rick.

513
00:20:32,820 --> 00:20:34,660
I mean, there's always that tank rematch,

514
00:20:34,660 --> 00:20:38,940
but I don't know, I think that's really there that much

515
00:20:38,940 --> 00:20:41,860
because after Roach.

516
00:20:41,860 --> 00:20:44,260
After Roach, I think tanks going to end up trying to fight

517
00:20:44,260 --> 00:20:48,460
like Ryo or maybe Aloma if he decides to come back.

518
00:20:48,460 --> 00:20:51,980
Well, Ryo kind of hurt people's credibility a lot.

519
00:20:51,980 --> 00:20:54,260
That's what I'm saying, like, if you're going to, you know,

520
00:20:54,260 --> 00:20:56,340
why fight Cruz if you can just fight Ryo?

521
00:20:56,340 --> 00:20:57,820
Yeah, exactly.

522
00:20:57,820 --> 00:21:01,620
Whatever credibility that Ryo took from Cruz.

523
00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:02,460
Exactly.

524
00:21:02,460 --> 00:21:03,460
To get it from Ryo.

525
00:21:04,860 --> 00:21:08,740
Well, for Cruz, just looking at some names here

526
00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:11,700
on the old, the old stinker,

527
00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:15,500
Williams of Peta, that would be a brawl.

528
00:21:15,500 --> 00:21:18,700
That would be a war, that would be a damn good fight.

529
00:21:18,700 --> 00:21:21,620
Shuichiro Yoshino, that would be a brawl

530
00:21:21,620 --> 00:21:23,460
while Yoshino lasts.

531
00:21:23,460 --> 00:21:24,740
Mine lasts, yes.

532
00:21:24,740 --> 00:21:26,980
Keep him away from Shakira, that's.

533
00:21:26,980 --> 00:21:30,100
Yeah, no, no, absolutely not.

534
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:31,540
That's a useless fight to make.

535
00:21:31,540 --> 00:21:32,500
That's kryptonite.

536
00:21:32,500 --> 00:21:36,460
I skipped over a couple names, like specifically.

537
00:21:36,460 --> 00:21:38,180
The ones that we know.

538
00:21:38,180 --> 00:21:41,140
Yeah, we're not trying to embarrass pit bull right now.

539
00:21:41,140 --> 00:21:43,660
Like Kevin Farmer, that's don't do that.

540
00:21:43,660 --> 00:21:45,780
That's not a good idea.

541
00:21:45,780 --> 00:21:48,220
We're putting him on undercards to like, you know,

542
00:21:48,220 --> 00:21:51,700
like car like hype, but every time I'm proud.

543
00:21:51,700 --> 00:21:53,340
After crowd up, appetizers.

544
00:21:53,340 --> 00:21:55,260
Lucas body, yo.

545
00:21:55,260 --> 00:21:58,260
Oh, he might KO body, I'm not gonna lie,

546
00:21:58,260 --> 00:21:59,380
but that would be a good fight.

547
00:21:59,380 --> 00:22:02,660
Body has that come from behind one hitter power though.

548
00:22:02,660 --> 00:22:03,700
Yeah, exactly.

549
00:22:03,700 --> 00:22:04,620
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

550
00:22:04,620 --> 00:22:06,180
It would be an interesting fight that like,

551
00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:08,660
they'd be brawling, they would be brawling.

552
00:22:08,660 --> 00:22:09,660
He's not getting hurt.

553
00:22:09,660 --> 00:22:10,980
He's getting mad.

554
00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:14,540
But yeah.

555
00:22:14,540 --> 00:22:15,420
I like the reference.

556
00:22:15,420 --> 00:22:16,780
Yeah, so that's it.

557
00:22:16,780 --> 00:22:20,100
Moving up, fucking queue it up, baby.

558
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:22,940
I don't know what celebration song I want yet.

559
00:22:22,940 --> 00:22:25,100
Steven, fucking Fulton.

560
00:22:25,100 --> 00:22:28,420
UD over Brandon Figueroa.

561
00:22:28,420 --> 00:22:31,100
Let's pull up, let's pull up the pick sheet

562
00:22:31,100 --> 00:22:32,060
because it's just me.

563
00:22:32,060 --> 00:22:32,900
It's just me.

564
00:22:32,900 --> 00:22:35,060
Yeah, I was gonna say, this is Leo's time.

565
00:22:35,060 --> 00:22:37,460
This is my time, baby.

566
00:22:37,460 --> 00:22:41,660
Steven, when you wanna chat, you let me know

567
00:22:41,660 --> 00:22:44,860
because I wanna fucking hear about what it is

568
00:22:44,860 --> 00:22:47,140
that you were thinking, what were you feeling?

569
00:22:47,140 --> 00:22:47,980
That was-

570
00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:49,340
Oh, you're thinking of the shorts.

571
00:22:49,340 --> 00:22:51,220
Yeah, what's up with the jorts, dude?

572
00:22:51,220 --> 00:22:54,220
Where can I get some Tim's boxing shoes?

573
00:22:54,220 --> 00:22:56,180
Where can I get some Tim's?

574
00:22:56,180 --> 00:22:58,300
Like, I didn't know you were from Brooklyn, dog.

575
00:22:58,300 --> 00:22:59,220
That was an E.

576
00:22:59,220 --> 00:23:00,500
That was an interesting.

577
00:23:00,500 --> 00:23:01,740
He just went viral off of that.

578
00:23:01,740 --> 00:23:02,940
That was very good move from him.

579
00:23:02,940 --> 00:23:03,780
No, he did.

580
00:23:03,780 --> 00:23:04,620
He was smart.

581
00:23:04,620 --> 00:23:06,140
I was smart, I was like, what the fuck?

582
00:23:06,140 --> 00:23:09,220
I got a lot of Instagram and TikTok stuff

583
00:23:09,220 --> 00:23:10,940
that were pointing it out.

584
00:23:10,940 --> 00:23:13,060
Like, look at this outfit.

585
00:23:13,060 --> 00:23:15,060
Look at the fit from this fighter.

586
00:23:15,060 --> 00:23:17,380
I'm like, yeah, that's Steven Fulton, baby.

587
00:23:17,380 --> 00:23:19,580
That's Philly's fucking finest.

588
00:23:19,580 --> 00:23:22,380
And junction workers.

589
00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:24,260
23-in-1 with AKOs.

590
00:23:25,300 --> 00:23:26,180
Philly's finest.

591
00:23:26,180 --> 00:23:27,460
Man, all right.

592
00:23:27,460 --> 00:23:28,580
The Bozzy fighter.

593
00:23:28,580 --> 00:23:32,020
Yeah, he moved over to the Boots camp

594
00:23:32,020 --> 00:23:34,620
and now he's firing on all cylinders.

595
00:23:34,620 --> 00:23:37,060
I hope Tevin Farmer makes the move over there too.

596
00:23:37,060 --> 00:23:39,140
He's another Philly guy.

597
00:23:39,140 --> 00:23:42,020
All right, for this one, before we get to Fulton,

598
00:23:42,020 --> 00:23:44,380
I want to ask, as I always do,

599
00:23:45,540 --> 00:23:48,260
what can Brandon do from here?

600
00:23:48,260 --> 00:23:52,540
Because he showed some pretty serious limitations.

601
00:23:52,540 --> 00:23:56,820
The ceiling, I don't know if it's too much to say

602
00:23:56,820 --> 00:23:58,700
that the blueprint is out there,

603
00:23:58,700 --> 00:24:02,060
but like if you can box and move on this guy,

604
00:24:02,060 --> 00:24:04,260
it doesn't seem like he can adjust.

605
00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:06,340
I don't know, might be too hyperbolic here

606
00:24:06,340 --> 00:24:07,780
or what are we thinking?

607
00:24:07,780 --> 00:24:10,820
It has to be the truth because even during fight week,

608
00:24:10,820 --> 00:24:14,300
he was saying, we prepared super hard for this fight,

609
00:24:14,300 --> 00:24:15,580
he was healthy coming in.

610
00:24:15,580 --> 00:24:16,660
Yeah.

611
00:24:16,660 --> 00:24:18,220
I mean, what else?

612
00:24:18,220 --> 00:24:20,020
He wasn't cutting as much weight.

613
00:24:20,020 --> 00:24:22,940
There's no other answer other than he got outboxed.

614
00:24:22,940 --> 00:24:24,380
He got work.

615
00:24:24,380 --> 00:24:27,980
Yeah, he got seriously, seriously work.

616
00:24:27,980 --> 00:24:29,580
This is not close.

617
00:24:29,580 --> 00:24:31,660
No, not at all.

618
00:24:31,660 --> 00:24:33,860
I honestly expected a fight that was gonna be

619
00:24:33,860 --> 00:24:37,980
at least majority decision, split decision even.

620
00:24:37,980 --> 00:24:40,100
But yeah, like the first one,

621
00:24:40,100 --> 00:24:41,700
but unanimous decision Fulton,

622
00:24:42,580 --> 00:24:45,140
like I was surprised.

623
00:24:45,140 --> 00:24:46,620
The insane part was that like,

624
00:24:46,620 --> 00:24:50,860
Fig was getting beat everywhere inside medium range,

625
00:24:50,860 --> 00:24:53,860
at distance he was getting beat everywhere.

626
00:24:53,860 --> 00:24:56,500
Fulton made Figaro look like a fucking amateur.

627
00:24:56,500 --> 00:24:58,860
Yeah, dude, like whenever they would show the slow-mos,

628
00:24:58,860 --> 00:25:03,500
like of Fig coming in, trying to get off a combination,

629
00:25:03,500 --> 00:25:04,740
and Fulton was just working them

630
00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:06,700
in between his combinations.

631
00:25:06,700 --> 00:25:07,540
And he was getting beat hard.

632
00:25:07,540 --> 00:25:08,380
It was beautiful.

633
00:25:08,380 --> 00:25:09,740
I mean, I guess the only thing you can say is that

634
00:25:09,740 --> 00:25:12,980
like Fig has heart and like, you know, he has a chin,

635
00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:15,020
but that's not really what you want people

636
00:25:15,020 --> 00:25:16,220
to be saying about you.

637
00:25:16,220 --> 00:25:17,060
Oh no.

638
00:25:17,060 --> 00:25:17,900
Yeah.

639
00:25:17,900 --> 00:25:18,740
You want people to talk about your skill.

640
00:25:18,740 --> 00:25:19,580
Right.

641
00:25:19,580 --> 00:25:20,420
Yeah.

642
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:21,420
Skill, power, anything.

643
00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:22,260
Lacks.

644
00:25:22,260 --> 00:25:25,100
When people bring up, oh, he has heart,

645
00:25:25,100 --> 00:25:26,420
he has a solid chin.

646
00:25:26,420 --> 00:25:27,260
It's over.

647
00:25:27,260 --> 00:25:28,100
It's over.

648
00:25:28,100 --> 00:25:29,980
That just means you're getting your ass kicked.

649
00:25:29,980 --> 00:25:32,100
Yeah, that's a nice way of saying that.

650
00:25:32,100 --> 00:25:32,940
Yeah, it really is.

651
00:25:32,940 --> 00:25:34,380
Yeah, dude, Fulton looked great.

652
00:25:34,380 --> 00:25:35,540
Fulton looked great.

653
00:25:35,540 --> 00:25:37,860
We were talking about it, I think like during the fight,

654
00:25:37,860 --> 00:25:40,660
how this rematch, the second fight,

655
00:25:40,660 --> 00:25:43,500
and the first fight looked so different.

656
00:25:43,500 --> 00:25:44,340
Completely different.

657
00:25:44,340 --> 00:25:46,060
Fulton looked completely different.

658
00:25:46,060 --> 00:25:47,740
And you gotta give it to Boosiannis,

659
00:25:47,740 --> 00:25:50,340
or not Boosiannis for that.

660
00:25:50,340 --> 00:25:51,820
Yeah, I mean, that's the change.

661
00:25:51,820 --> 00:25:52,660
Yeah.

662
00:25:52,660 --> 00:25:53,740
He reinvigorated him.

663
00:25:53,740 --> 00:25:57,140
Yeah, I'm surprised that it changed him that much.

664
00:25:57,140 --> 00:25:58,180
Yeah, I mean.

665
00:25:58,180 --> 00:26:00,500
I don't know if it was a big change in like,

666
00:26:00,500 --> 00:26:01,980
with a guy like Stephen Fulton,

667
00:26:01,980 --> 00:26:06,980
he's coming in off his only loss to an all-time great,

668
00:26:07,140 --> 00:26:08,980
but he was going into that fight,

669
00:26:08,980 --> 00:26:12,100
a unified champion with solid wins under his belt.

670
00:26:12,100 --> 00:26:15,340
This isn't like, you don't need to refine his skills.

671
00:26:15,340 --> 00:26:18,380
You don't need to change his approach to fighting.

672
00:26:18,380 --> 00:26:21,340
Like it's a mentality thing,

673
00:26:21,340 --> 00:26:24,180
that being around a guy like Boots,

674
00:26:24,180 --> 00:26:26,540
being around his father as well,

675
00:26:26,540 --> 00:26:29,020
that's the type of mentality change

676
00:26:29,020 --> 00:26:32,420
that serious champions need to have around them.

677
00:26:32,420 --> 00:26:34,700
I didn't see Fulton fight in a pocket like that.

678
00:26:34,700 --> 00:26:36,540
I don't even think during the end of the fight that much.

679
00:26:36,540 --> 00:26:38,260
He had a completely different demeanor about him,

680
00:26:38,260 --> 00:26:39,820
even during fight week.

681
00:26:39,820 --> 00:26:41,020
I know he joked about it a little bit,

682
00:26:41,020 --> 00:26:42,060
like during the press conference,

683
00:26:42,060 --> 00:26:44,060
like, you know, he almost looked a little bit high.

684
00:26:44,060 --> 00:26:46,580
I mean, he was just like super calm, I guess.

685
00:26:46,580 --> 00:26:47,420
I mean, I don't know.

686
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:50,380
Weapons grade THC out in Vegas, baby.

687
00:26:50,380 --> 00:26:51,420
That's what I'm saying, yeah.

688
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:52,380
He had something going on.

689
00:26:52,380 --> 00:26:54,540
I mean, he looks like a complete different fighter.

690
00:26:54,540 --> 00:26:56,260
I gotta say, Leo was right.

691
00:26:56,260 --> 00:26:59,300
I picked Fig to win in the pick league.

692
00:26:59,300 --> 00:27:00,220
Me too.

693
00:27:00,220 --> 00:27:01,980
Fulton, man, he said no.

694
00:27:01,980 --> 00:27:02,820
He said no.

695
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:06,380
Well, I can only say,

696
00:27:06,380 --> 00:27:10,380
if anybody is trying to doubt in a way his greatness,

697
00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:13,700
I can only really point to Stephen Fulton and say,

698
00:27:13,700 --> 00:27:16,900
look at how fucking excellent he continues to be.

699
00:27:16,900 --> 00:27:19,540
Was the Castro fight a little questionable?

700
00:27:19,540 --> 00:27:21,220
Sure, it was.

701
00:27:21,220 --> 00:27:26,220
I chalk that up to Castro is a really tough guy on his own.

702
00:27:26,820 --> 00:27:29,460
So to not look that great against him,

703
00:27:29,460 --> 00:27:32,500
if you don't come correct with Castro, he will beat you.

704
00:27:32,500 --> 00:27:34,340
So I think it was just a case of moving up

705
00:27:34,340 --> 00:27:35,860
and getting used to the weight.

706
00:27:35,860 --> 00:27:39,260
That too, that also had a lot to do with it.

707
00:27:39,260 --> 00:27:40,940
I was just saying, I have to ask now,

708
00:27:40,940 --> 00:27:43,180
and I asked this already knowing the answer,

709
00:27:43,180 --> 00:27:45,100
but I just wanna hear your opinion.

710
00:27:45,100 --> 00:27:47,420
How does this Fulton look against Inouye?

711
00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:52,420
I think he lasts a little longer,

712
00:27:52,420 --> 00:27:55,340
but I actually, you know what, let me change that.

713
00:27:55,340 --> 00:27:57,340
I think he gets finished faster

714
00:27:57,340 --> 00:27:59,420
because Inouye takes him,

715
00:27:59,420 --> 00:28:04,100
he refuses to toy with him and he finishes it quickly

716
00:28:04,100 --> 00:28:08,420
because he doesn't want Fulton to have time to learn

717
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:10,820
and downgrade to trademark.

718
00:28:10,820 --> 00:28:12,700
I agree, I agree with you.

719
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:13,540
Yeah, yeah.

720
00:28:13,540 --> 00:28:15,820
I think he needs to be finished.

721
00:28:15,820 --> 00:28:19,500
My question actually kind of bounces off of your question,

722
00:28:19,500 --> 00:28:21,500
Isaac, what did you see the difference

723
00:28:21,500 --> 00:28:23,620
between this fight and Inouye fight?

724
00:28:23,620 --> 00:28:25,420
Not so much the Castro fight, but the Inouye fight,

725
00:28:25,420 --> 00:28:27,020
which was what, two years ago, and this fight?

726
00:28:27,020 --> 00:28:29,220
Yeah, Inouye to Fig too?

727
00:28:29,220 --> 00:28:30,500
Yeah.

728
00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:31,660
Isaac hit it up.

729
00:28:31,660 --> 00:28:34,500
His punch selection and his timing

730
00:28:34,500 --> 00:28:37,780
was sort of insane in this Fig fight.

731
00:28:37,780 --> 00:28:38,620
Beautiful.

732
00:28:39,860 --> 00:28:43,460
I've seen boxing for quite a bit of time.

733
00:28:43,460 --> 00:28:46,060
He was hitting Fig everywhere.

734
00:28:46,060 --> 00:28:48,180
Like normally whenever you see fights like,

735
00:28:48,180 --> 00:28:50,260
like the keys to victory, like, you know,

736
00:28:50,260 --> 00:28:53,340
he has to get inside, he has to keep at a distance.

737
00:28:53,340 --> 00:28:57,140
Oten was dominating Fig literally at every point

738
00:28:57,140 --> 00:28:58,300
in that fight.

739
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:00,740
And it came down to his timing, his punch selection.

740
00:29:00,740 --> 00:29:03,500
I mean, just, I don't know if he's gotten smarter

741
00:29:03,500 --> 00:29:05,660
or like if Bozi has like sort of changed the way

742
00:29:05,660 --> 00:29:07,660
he thinks about boxing,

743
00:29:07,660 --> 00:29:09,380
but when you pair it with his speed,

744
00:29:09,380 --> 00:29:13,500
the IQ he has now, bro, he's insane now.

745
00:29:14,340 --> 00:29:15,180
I think the way he was fighting.

746
00:29:15,180 --> 00:29:17,260
I think Bozi rebuilt his confidence.

747
00:29:17,260 --> 00:29:18,300
Yeah. Yeah.

748
00:29:18,300 --> 00:29:20,220
It was sort of crazy to see.

749
00:29:20,220 --> 00:29:23,700
I mean, when I was watching the fight, like this one,

750
00:29:23,700 --> 00:29:25,580
I was like, bro, this Fulton looks different.

751
00:29:25,580 --> 00:29:27,900
Yeah. Like completely different.

752
00:29:27,900 --> 00:29:28,900
I think what I noticed,

753
00:29:28,900 --> 00:29:30,740
the biggest difference was the inside work.

754
00:29:30,740 --> 00:29:32,660
Cause like what you said, like,

755
00:29:32,660 --> 00:29:34,060
I was trying to kind of like say what you're saying

756
00:29:34,060 --> 00:29:36,220
about how he was hitting him everywhere.

757
00:29:36,220 --> 00:29:37,780
That was all on the inside.

758
00:29:37,780 --> 00:29:39,700
That was all on the inside.

759
00:29:39,700 --> 00:29:41,740
Those uppercuts he was landing on the inside.

760
00:29:41,740 --> 00:29:43,180
Were nasty.

761
00:29:43,180 --> 00:29:44,020
Yeah, dude.

762
00:29:44,020 --> 00:29:47,060
They were like turning Fig's neck all the way up.

763
00:29:47,060 --> 00:29:49,660
And the thing is you didn't really see that during Inoue.

764
00:29:49,660 --> 00:29:51,780
You didn't see that really at all during the Inoue fight.

765
00:29:51,780 --> 00:29:52,620
Yeah. I mean, that's the thing though.

766
00:29:52,620 --> 00:29:54,460
Like, it's like what Leo was saying.

767
00:29:54,460 --> 00:29:56,900
Like Inoue just did not let him get started at all.

768
00:29:56,900 --> 00:29:57,740
Exactly. Yeah.

769
00:29:57,740 --> 00:30:00,580
He didn't give him any movement, you know?

770
00:30:00,580 --> 00:30:01,420
Yeah.

771
00:30:01,420 --> 00:30:02,700
There was no like wiggle room to like.

772
00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:04,420
If you give him wiggle room,

773
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:06,260
he's going to find a rhythm

774
00:30:06,260 --> 00:30:09,580
that's going to outwork me somehow.

775
00:30:09,580 --> 00:30:10,420
Yeah.

776
00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:12,660
Inoue just says like, I'm going to stop that.

777
00:30:12,660 --> 00:30:13,580
Yeah.

778
00:30:13,580 --> 00:30:15,540
I need to, I need to nip it in the bud.

779
00:30:15,540 --> 00:30:18,020
Cause if you, if you get going,

780
00:30:18,020 --> 00:30:20,020
then it's going to be a problem for me.

781
00:30:20,020 --> 00:30:22,740
The thing is that even with his improvement,

782
00:30:22,740 --> 00:30:25,500
I really do not want to see that fight with Inoue again.

783
00:30:25,500 --> 00:30:28,140
I said this last week on the last podcast.

784
00:30:28,140 --> 00:30:29,820
I'll tell you, I really do not want to see that fight.

785
00:30:29,820 --> 00:30:31,620
It's cause I think it's going to be a repeat.

786
00:30:31,620 --> 00:30:32,900
I think it goes worse.

787
00:30:32,900 --> 00:30:34,500
Yeah, it goes worse. Definitely.

788
00:30:34,500 --> 00:30:35,340
It's not that.

789
00:30:35,340 --> 00:30:36,580
What's next for Fulton though?

790
00:30:36,580 --> 00:30:39,020
Yeah. That's what I was going to get at is like,

791
00:30:39,020 --> 00:30:41,260
looking at the list, like his fellow champions,

792
00:30:41,260 --> 00:30:43,940
he's got Nick Ball with the WBA.

793
00:30:43,940 --> 00:30:45,740
Espinosa has a WBO.

794
00:30:45,740 --> 00:30:47,620
We don't know if he's going to stay.

795
00:30:47,620 --> 00:30:49,460
And who's the fucking IBF?

796
00:30:49,460 --> 00:30:50,540
Angelo Alejo.

797
00:30:50,540 --> 00:30:52,020
Oh, shit.

798
00:30:52,020 --> 00:30:53,220
Oh, shit.

799
00:30:53,220 --> 00:30:54,380
Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

800
00:30:54,380 --> 00:30:55,220
That's it.

801
00:30:55,220 --> 00:30:56,060
Whoa, wait, wait.

802
00:30:56,060 --> 00:30:57,180
That's a damn good fight right there.

803
00:30:57,180 --> 00:30:59,180
That's the one to make.

804
00:30:59,180 --> 00:31:01,540
Rematch for the belts.

805
00:31:01,540 --> 00:31:02,660
Yeah.

806
00:31:02,660 --> 00:31:03,580
Oh my God.

807
00:31:03,580 --> 00:31:04,620
Oh my God.

808
00:31:04,620 --> 00:31:06,580
His one belt is too fucking-

809
00:31:06,580 --> 00:31:07,860
You took my funny bone.

810
00:31:07,860 --> 00:31:08,700
You took my funny bone.

811
00:31:08,700 --> 00:31:10,100
It's actually so nice.

812
00:31:11,500 --> 00:31:13,540
That sounds nice.

813
00:31:13,540 --> 00:31:15,380
This is wild cause like, I mean,

814
00:31:15,380 --> 00:31:17,620
this Fulton is now like way better.

815
00:31:17,620 --> 00:31:19,980
So it, man, there's a storyline there.

816
00:31:19,980 --> 00:31:21,540
Like that fight has everything in it.

817
00:31:21,540 --> 00:31:22,780
Yeah, it does.

818
00:31:22,780 --> 00:31:27,260
The Espinosa one is interesting just on the size issues

819
00:31:27,260 --> 00:31:30,980
and Nick Ball kind of, but for the opposite reasons,

820
00:31:30,980 --> 00:31:33,260
like just cause he's like a meatball

821
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,580
versus Slender Man.

822
00:31:35,580 --> 00:31:37,140
He's always gonna pressure forward.

823
00:31:37,140 --> 00:31:38,380
That's the best way to put it.

824
00:31:38,380 --> 00:31:39,300
Yeah.

825
00:31:39,300 --> 00:31:43,740
I really hope that Venado is not fighting still.

826
00:31:43,740 --> 00:31:44,580
No, bro.

827
00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:45,900
He's gotta stop.

828
00:31:45,900 --> 00:31:46,740
Oh yeah.

829
00:31:46,740 --> 00:31:47,580
Brain bleed.

830
00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:48,500
Yeah, brain bleed.

831
00:31:48,500 --> 00:31:49,460
That's game, dude.

832
00:31:49,460 --> 00:31:50,300
You gotta stop.

833
00:31:50,300 --> 00:31:51,140
It's over.

834
00:31:51,140 --> 00:31:52,740
Game over.

835
00:31:52,740 --> 00:31:54,980
Shu Shu is out there.

836
00:31:54,980 --> 00:31:56,420
Ray Vargas.

837
00:31:56,420 --> 00:31:58,340
I hope he's-

838
00:32:00,140 --> 00:32:02,340
I don't wanna say anything ill.

839
00:32:02,340 --> 00:32:03,660
I don't wish him ill.

840
00:32:03,660 --> 00:32:06,180
I just don't wanna see him fight anymore.

841
00:32:06,180 --> 00:32:08,300
Oh man, come on man.

842
00:32:08,300 --> 00:32:11,060
Yeah, but the Angelo Leo fight,

843
00:32:11,060 --> 00:32:12,820
that's just there for the making.

844
00:32:12,820 --> 00:32:14,900
That's right there.

845
00:32:14,900 --> 00:32:15,820
That'd be a war.

846
00:32:15,820 --> 00:32:19,140
Same, but now same question for Fig.

847
00:32:19,140 --> 00:32:21,940
Espinosa is a good fight for him.

848
00:32:21,940 --> 00:32:25,220
Like they're both tall, rangy.

849
00:32:25,220 --> 00:32:27,820
Nick Ball would just be fucking hilarious

850
00:32:27,820 --> 00:32:29,060
if they were to fight.

851
00:32:29,060 --> 00:32:29,900
Be fun.

852
00:32:29,900 --> 00:32:30,740
Yeah.

853
00:32:30,740 --> 00:32:33,220
The face-offs would be sort of insane.

854
00:32:33,220 --> 00:32:35,420
Get him a fucking step stool.

855
00:32:35,420 --> 00:32:37,100
Yeah.

856
00:32:37,100 --> 00:32:38,700
Like that, that wouldn't even look,

857
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:41,060
if you put that on the internet,

858
00:32:41,060 --> 00:32:43,100
people would be like, why are they fighting?

859
00:32:43,100 --> 00:32:46,260
Why is this kid from the amateur's fighting professional?

860
00:32:46,260 --> 00:32:48,900
Well, we gotta try to find an adult here.

861
00:32:48,900 --> 00:32:52,940
Well, this particular fellow is wider

862
00:32:52,940 --> 00:32:54,940
than the other one is tall.

863
00:32:54,940 --> 00:32:57,820
So, I don't know.

864
00:32:57,820 --> 00:32:58,660
That's it though.

865
00:32:58,660 --> 00:33:00,740
That's it for this one.

866
00:33:00,740 --> 00:33:03,180
If you have anything more for Fulton Figueroa,

867
00:33:03,180 --> 00:33:04,300
what do you guys got?

868
00:33:04,300 --> 00:33:05,140
Match question.

869
00:33:05,140 --> 00:33:05,980
Good win.

870
00:33:05,980 --> 00:33:06,820
Woof.

871
00:33:06,820 --> 00:33:07,660
Good win.

872
00:33:07,660 --> 00:33:08,500
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873
00:33:08,500 --> 00:33:11,260
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903
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David versus David.

904
00:34:28,620 --> 00:34:32,420
Ben Avedez takes it on points over Morrell.

905
00:34:32,420 --> 00:34:33,620
Alex, kick us off here.

906
00:34:33,620 --> 00:34:34,780
What do you got?

907
00:34:34,780 --> 00:34:37,060
The battle of the David's lived up to the hype.

908
00:34:37,060 --> 00:34:38,460
It lived up to the hype.

909
00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:40,500
As I said last podcast,

910
00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:43,900
it's the best way to put it is it felt orgasmic.

911
00:34:43,900 --> 00:34:45,260
It felt amazing.

912
00:34:45,260 --> 00:34:46,700
Three years in the making.

913
00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:48,020
Great, great fight.

914
00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:48,860
I still think about it.

915
00:34:48,860 --> 00:34:50,220
I was thinking about it all day actually.

916
00:34:50,220 --> 00:34:52,700
I've been thinking about it all day.

917
00:34:52,700 --> 00:34:53,740
Great.

918
00:34:53,740 --> 00:34:54,580
Yeah.

919
00:34:54,580 --> 00:34:57,100
This fight was sort of insane.

920
00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:58,620
Like whenever it started out,

921
00:34:58,620 --> 00:35:00,620
like for the first few rounds up until like

922
00:35:00,620 --> 00:35:01,820
the middle of the fight,

923
00:35:01,820 --> 00:35:03,100
I had said it before,

924
00:35:03,100 --> 00:35:04,980
like, you know, the nerves are gonna be at an all time high

925
00:35:04,980 --> 00:35:07,780
whenever the bell rings.

926
00:35:07,780 --> 00:35:08,980
It was, I mean, dude,

927
00:35:08,980 --> 00:35:12,180
I was like totally shaking almost during this fight.

928
00:35:12,180 --> 00:35:13,020
It was.

929
00:35:13,020 --> 00:35:13,860
At least it was like, I mean.

930
00:35:13,860 --> 00:35:14,700
Yeah.

931
00:35:14,700 --> 00:35:15,540
I was nervous.

932
00:35:15,540 --> 00:35:17,180
It was like the first round,

933
00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:21,700
but they were throwing nukes at each other.

934
00:35:21,700 --> 00:35:23,020
They were throwing nukes at each other.

935
00:35:23,020 --> 00:35:24,580
Absolutely.

936
00:35:24,580 --> 00:35:25,420
Like I mean.

937
00:35:25,420 --> 00:35:26,900
They're like you created that.

938
00:35:26,900 --> 00:35:27,940
Yes, I'm saying bro.

939
00:35:27,940 --> 00:35:29,460
You had this feeling that like,

940
00:35:29,460 --> 00:35:30,860
bros, if something lands,

941
00:35:30,860 --> 00:35:33,140
they are gonna be out cold.

942
00:35:33,140 --> 00:35:36,380
But like, I mean, as the fight went on, you know,

943
00:35:36,380 --> 00:35:38,660
punches started to land, I was like, damn.

944
00:35:38,660 --> 00:35:41,380
They're throwing nukes, but they're eating them too.

945
00:35:41,380 --> 00:35:42,780
They know how to roll.

946
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:44,140
They know how to roll with it.

947
00:35:44,140 --> 00:35:45,100
Yeah.

948
00:35:45,100 --> 00:35:47,100
I mean, some of them, yeah, but bro,

949
00:35:47,100 --> 00:35:48,540
Benefitas was landing on rail.

950
00:35:48,540 --> 00:35:51,100
Some of those uppercuts were insane.

951
00:35:51,100 --> 00:35:52,260
The triple one?

952
00:35:52,260 --> 00:35:53,100
Yeah.

953
00:35:53,100 --> 00:35:55,580
Triple, that was nasty.

954
00:35:55,580 --> 00:35:57,620
The hooks right around the guard, uppercuts.

955
00:35:57,620 --> 00:35:59,100
He was landing and like,

956
00:35:59,100 --> 00:36:00,620
Murrell's entire head was moving,

957
00:36:00,620 --> 00:36:03,460
like not rolling with it, but just like absorbing it.

958
00:36:03,460 --> 00:36:05,860
And the chin held up.

959
00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:07,820
This was an insane fight all the way through.

960
00:36:07,820 --> 00:36:08,900
All the way through.

961
00:36:08,900 --> 00:36:11,740
Honestly, I think this fight is instant classic.

962
00:36:11,740 --> 00:36:12,900
Instant classic.

963
00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:13,740
Yeah.

964
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:16,740
I mean, and it's something you wouldn't expect from,

965
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:17,580
like when you just like,

966
00:36:17,580 --> 00:36:18,420
let's say you didn't know them.

967
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:19,700
And this is like,

968
00:36:19,700 --> 00:36:22,620
majority of the casual fan base did not know Murrell.

969
00:36:22,620 --> 00:36:23,460
No.

970
00:36:23,460 --> 00:36:26,620
You know, the 11 fights, you know, zero losses obviously.

971
00:36:26,620 --> 00:36:28,460
Who's this Cuban?

972
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:29,300
Yeah.

973
00:36:29,300 --> 00:36:31,220
The Cuban argument.

974
00:36:31,220 --> 00:36:32,260
He's got a good amateur record,

975
00:36:32,260 --> 00:36:36,780
but you wouldn't expect this from a fighter at the 11 fights.

976
00:36:36,780 --> 00:36:38,100
Murrell did well.

977
00:36:38,100 --> 00:36:41,540
And like both contributed to how good this fight was.

978
00:36:43,380 --> 00:36:47,260
You know, this was just an insane fight at every facet.

979
00:36:47,260 --> 00:36:49,500
Like, you know, defensively, offensively,

980
00:36:49,500 --> 00:36:51,340
it was insane.

981
00:36:51,340 --> 00:36:54,620
I was really surprised by David Benavides' defense.

982
00:36:54,620 --> 00:36:55,940
Yes, much improved.

983
00:36:55,940 --> 00:36:56,780
Shocked, actually.

984
00:36:56,780 --> 00:36:58,540
It was much improved.

985
00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:01,100
And honestly, I was also surprised by

986
00:37:01,100 --> 00:37:04,580
how Murrell respected David Benavides' power

987
00:37:04,580 --> 00:37:05,420
to be put on the back.

988
00:37:05,420 --> 00:37:07,140
Because honestly, I thought Benavides was gonna be put

989
00:37:07,140 --> 00:37:07,980
on the back for this fight.

990
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:09,300
I thought it was gonna be a very,

991
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:12,140
but the fact that Benavides was actually able to walk him down

992
00:37:12,140 --> 00:37:13,420
was nasty.

993
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:17,460
It proved to me that Benavides' power is crazy.

994
00:37:17,460 --> 00:37:20,460
Maybe not as crazy as what we kind of hoped,

995
00:37:20,460 --> 00:37:21,700
but it's still crazy.

996
00:37:21,700 --> 00:37:23,100
Yeah, it's like cumulative power.

997
00:37:23,100 --> 00:37:26,260
Like, he doesn't have more power than he could see.

998
00:37:26,260 --> 00:37:27,980
Yeah, but like those punches,

999
00:37:27,980 --> 00:37:31,100
like those combos that he ends up getting off,

1000
00:37:31,100 --> 00:37:32,420
they are brutal.

1001
00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:34,820
Like even if he guard absorbs them,

1002
00:37:34,820 --> 00:37:37,580
your hands are gonna be numb after taking them,

1003
00:37:37,580 --> 00:37:38,780
taking a combo.

1004
00:37:38,780 --> 00:37:39,620
I mean, the only thing,

1005
00:37:39,620 --> 00:37:42,700
the only critique I have with Benavides is obviously for work.

1006
00:37:42,700 --> 00:37:44,500
That's one, obviously.

1007
00:37:44,500 --> 00:37:45,940
And then the other one is actually,

1008
00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:48,620
I was surprised for David Benavides' stamina.

1009
00:37:48,620 --> 00:37:49,660
Because near the end, he was,

1010
00:37:49,660 --> 00:37:50,980
I mean, both of the guys were one out, of course.

1011
00:37:50,980 --> 00:37:53,260
It was a war, but the stamina,

1012
00:37:53,260 --> 00:37:56,300
I expected David to have a better stamina near the end.

1013
00:37:56,300 --> 00:37:57,140
Which one?

1014
00:37:57,140 --> 00:37:58,140
Oh, Benavides.

1015
00:37:58,140 --> 00:37:59,540
Oh, okay.

1016
00:37:59,540 --> 00:38:03,420
He usually, when he has these like long-term,

1017
00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:05,580
like look at the Vosdick fight.

1018
00:38:05,580 --> 00:38:07,340
He was doing fine,

1019
00:38:07,340 --> 00:38:09,940
and he was still stringing combos together at the end,

1020
00:38:09,940 --> 00:38:12,300
but he wasn't getting a lot of return fire.

1021
00:38:12,300 --> 00:38:15,540
So it's a big difference when someone's clobbering you back

1022
00:38:15,540 --> 00:38:18,500
that has power versus just someone

1023
00:38:18,500 --> 00:38:20,700
who's just backing up the whole time.

1024
00:38:20,700 --> 00:38:24,060
I think his stamina held up well enough,

1025
00:38:24,060 --> 00:38:25,380
all things considered.

1026
00:38:25,380 --> 00:38:26,620
Yeah, it was sufficient for the,

1027
00:38:26,620 --> 00:38:27,460
this was like very,

1028
00:38:27,460 --> 00:38:29,220
it was very weird watching Murrell as well,

1029
00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:31,540
because like, you know, after the middle rounds,

1030
00:38:31,540 --> 00:38:33,900
it's like, you know, damn, Murrell was starting to get gassed.

1031
00:38:33,900 --> 00:38:36,340
You know, you could see him in his deep breaths.

1032
00:38:36,340 --> 00:38:37,180
Body shot.

1033
00:38:37,180 --> 00:38:38,620
But then at like the very end,

1034
00:38:38,620 --> 00:38:40,020
he found this like second wind,

1035
00:38:40,020 --> 00:38:43,620
and he just started unloading these combos.

1036
00:38:43,620 --> 00:38:45,580
It was sort of weird to see like, you know,

1037
00:38:45,580 --> 00:38:46,540
who thought Murrell was done,

1038
00:38:46,540 --> 00:38:49,380
but he sort of started stringing some combinations

1039
00:38:49,380 --> 00:38:50,860
together at the very end

1040
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:53,860
that were doing damage to Benavides.

1041
00:38:53,860 --> 00:38:56,420
I mean, the knockdown, how do you feel about that?

1042
00:38:56,420 --> 00:38:58,420
Question mark, knockdown, question mark?

1043
00:38:58,420 --> 00:38:59,380
Yeah. I don't know.

1044
00:38:59,380 --> 00:39:02,940
Yeah, now more angles have come out now,

1045
00:39:02,940 --> 00:39:07,660
and it was like a footwork crossing,

1046
00:39:07,660 --> 00:39:10,860
and then I guess Murrell, he landed on the shoulder.

1047
00:39:10,860 --> 00:39:11,700
Yeah.

1048
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:15,740
I think that's Dishy in the Discord was saying like,

1049
00:39:15,740 --> 00:39:20,020
that if, even if their feet got tangled,

1050
00:39:20,020 --> 00:39:23,300
but you tag them on the head or on the body for,

1051
00:39:23,300 --> 00:39:25,300
or whatever, that's fine.

1052
00:39:25,300 --> 00:39:26,140
Yeah.

1053
00:39:26,140 --> 00:39:29,020
But tagging the shoulder, no, that's not,

1054
00:39:29,020 --> 00:39:30,420
that's not a knockdown.

1055
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:31,940
Yeah, I didn't buy it.

1056
00:39:31,940 --> 00:39:34,140
I thought that was kind of a interesting move

1057
00:39:34,140 --> 00:39:35,460
from Thomas Taylor.

1058
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:36,460
He went to the replay.

1059
00:39:36,460 --> 00:39:37,620
He's a good ref.

1060
00:39:37,620 --> 00:39:38,580
He is a good ref.

1061
00:39:38,580 --> 00:39:39,820
He went to the replay,

1062
00:39:39,820 --> 00:39:44,820
and the athletic commission held it up as a knockdown.

1063
00:39:46,180 --> 00:39:47,500
I'm very critical of Thomas Taylor.

1064
00:39:47,500 --> 00:39:48,340
I'll tell you that.

1065
00:39:48,340 --> 00:39:49,260
I'm very, very critical.

1066
00:39:49,260 --> 00:39:50,100
Why is that?

1067
00:39:50,100 --> 00:39:52,180
Because, because in my opinion,

1068
00:39:52,180 --> 00:39:53,300
I mean, I think Thomas Taylor,

1069
00:39:53,300 --> 00:39:55,020
he doesn't put up with the bullshit.

1070
00:39:55,020 --> 00:39:56,780
He does not put up with the bullshit.

1071
00:39:56,780 --> 00:39:58,180
I like, that's why I like, I do,

1072
00:39:58,180 --> 00:40:00,420
I respect him more recently because of that,

1073
00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:02,220
but my only gripe with Thomas Taylor is that

1074
00:40:02,220 --> 00:40:04,140
there's instances where he's stopped fights

1075
00:40:04,140 --> 00:40:05,580
a little too early.

1076
00:40:05,580 --> 00:40:07,620
I think the biggest, the best example would be

1077
00:40:07,620 --> 00:40:09,940
the Pipple-Roly fight, in my opinion.

1078
00:40:09,940 --> 00:40:11,740
I think that fight could have gone a little bit longer.

1079
00:40:11,740 --> 00:40:12,580
You know what I mean?

1080
00:40:12,580 --> 00:40:13,420
And there's other fights where he's doing-

1081
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:15,020
You know if you wanted to see Roly out cold, bruh.

1082
00:40:15,020 --> 00:40:16,540
Well, I think it's mainly because of that too.

1083
00:40:16,540 --> 00:40:18,140
I really wanted to see Roly out cold.

1084
00:40:18,140 --> 00:40:20,260
But at the same time, it's not,

1085
00:40:20,260 --> 00:40:21,340
it's also because, I mean, Roly,

1086
00:40:21,340 --> 00:40:22,660
I think Roly still had enough in him

1087
00:40:22,660 --> 00:40:24,700
to keep fighting in that fight specifically.

1088
00:40:24,700 --> 00:40:26,420
That might be why you stop it,

1089
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:28,340
because he does have enough to keep going,

1090
00:40:28,340 --> 00:40:29,900
but he's not gonna be compared to that.

1091
00:40:29,900 --> 00:40:30,820
There's some of that.

1092
00:40:30,820 --> 00:40:32,740
There's like that, like, too tough for your own good.

1093
00:40:32,740 --> 00:40:34,140
Like, you won't go down,

1094
00:40:34,140 --> 00:40:36,220
but those blows are still landing.

1095
00:40:36,220 --> 00:40:37,740
They're still gonna land, yeah, I agree.

1096
00:40:37,740 --> 00:40:39,300
I just don't agree with the way,

1097
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:41,460
at the point he did it at.

1098
00:40:41,460 --> 00:40:44,660
I just didn't, I didn't see Roly hurt that much at that point.

1099
00:40:44,660 --> 00:40:46,140
I mean, he was hurt a little bit,

1100
00:40:46,140 --> 00:40:47,460
but not as much as that,

1101
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:48,980
what you would expect a knockout from,

1102
00:40:48,980 --> 00:40:49,820
you know what I mean?

1103
00:40:49,820 --> 00:40:50,660
Technical knockout.

1104
00:40:50,660 --> 00:40:51,500
You see what I'm saying?

1105
00:40:51,500 --> 00:40:52,340
For this-

1106
00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:53,500
Yeah, yeah, I see what you're saying.

1107
00:40:53,500 --> 00:40:55,340
But for this fight, he was good.

1108
00:40:55,340 --> 00:40:56,180
Oh, he was on it.

1109
00:40:56,180 --> 00:40:57,340
We ended up getting,

1110
00:40:57,340 --> 00:41:00,340
Murrell got that point immediately taken away,

1111
00:41:00,340 --> 00:41:01,940
as well, from the knockdown.

1112
00:41:01,940 --> 00:41:03,940
That was a bullshit thing, Murrell.

1113
00:41:03,940 --> 00:41:05,540
I was pissed at Murrell, dude.

1114
00:41:05,540 --> 00:41:07,380
I was fucking pissed.

1115
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:09,140
How you get a fucking knockout,

1116
00:41:09,140 --> 00:41:10,780
and you do pull some bullshit like that,

1117
00:41:10,780 --> 00:41:12,060
that cancels it out, right?

1118
00:41:12,060 --> 00:41:12,900
Bullshit.

1119
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:15,100
I didn't see any of the post-fight stuff,

1120
00:41:15,100 --> 00:41:17,140
but did he comment on that?

1121
00:41:17,140 --> 00:41:19,460
I haven't seen, they usually don't.

1122
00:41:19,460 --> 00:41:20,460
I don't like that.

1123
00:41:21,420 --> 00:41:26,220
If I could do anything with the fights that I get to attend,

1124
00:41:26,220 --> 00:41:27,140
it would be that.

1125
00:41:27,140 --> 00:41:29,500
I would wanna talk to the refs.

1126
00:41:29,500 --> 00:41:32,900
Refs and the judges, no cameras.

1127
00:41:32,900 --> 00:41:33,740
Yeah.

1128
00:41:33,740 --> 00:41:36,540
Like immediately, whenever it happened,

1129
00:41:36,540 --> 00:41:38,340
he ended up telling him,

1130
00:41:38,340 --> 00:41:40,340
I told you, I guess he had a conversation with him

1131
00:41:40,340 --> 00:41:42,260
back in the locker room.

1132
00:41:42,260 --> 00:41:45,220
He said, there's no bullshit with late hits.

1133
00:41:46,100 --> 00:41:47,580
I guess he told him he was gonna take a point

1134
00:41:47,580 --> 00:41:48,700
if there was a late hit.

1135
00:41:48,700 --> 00:41:49,540
He was very adamant.

1136
00:41:49,540 --> 00:41:50,500
Shooter was worried.

1137
00:41:50,500 --> 00:41:54,180
Yeah, that was, Murrell was not happy, but it was late.

1138
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:55,020
Worker's who?

1139
00:41:55,020 --> 00:41:55,860
Worker's late.

1140
00:41:55,860 --> 00:41:58,300
Like, fuck, that was egregious.

1141
00:41:58,300 --> 00:41:59,900
I know people are saying that

1142
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:02,500
Thomas Saylor was giving Benavides the advantage,

1143
00:42:02,500 --> 00:42:05,860
because apparently Benavides hit after the belt too,

1144
00:42:05,860 --> 00:42:07,020
but I don't buy that either.

1145
00:42:07,020 --> 00:42:08,980
One of them was me, but that was just because, you know,

1146
00:42:08,980 --> 00:42:11,340
heat of the moment, T. Murrell, but.

1147
00:42:11,340 --> 00:42:12,180
Okay, yeah.

1148
00:42:12,180 --> 00:42:13,020
Oh yeah, that was you, Isaac.

1149
00:42:13,020 --> 00:42:13,860
That was you.

1150
00:42:13,860 --> 00:42:15,300
I mean, I was one of the few.

1151
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:16,140
I was one of the few.

1152
00:42:16,140 --> 00:42:17,900
There was a few other people in there.

1153
00:42:17,900 --> 00:42:19,020
But yeah, it was just heat of the moment, you know,

1154
00:42:19,020 --> 00:42:20,580
we're in the middle of a war.

1155
00:42:20,580 --> 00:42:22,940
We needed every advantage we could get, but yeah.

1156
00:42:22,940 --> 00:42:25,100
Rewatching, yes, it was egregious.

1157
00:42:25,100 --> 00:42:25,940
Very egregious.

1158
00:42:25,940 --> 00:42:28,460
What is next for David Murrell?

1159
00:42:28,460 --> 00:42:29,780
That's kinda hard.

1160
00:42:29,780 --> 00:42:30,620
Yeah.

1161
00:42:30,620 --> 00:42:31,460
It's just stockwores.

1162
00:42:31,460 --> 00:42:33,700
Like it's a loss, but his stock rose, I feel.

1163
00:42:33,700 --> 00:42:34,740
Absolutely.

1164
00:42:34,740 --> 00:42:37,260
At least, at the very least for both of them,

1165
00:42:37,260 --> 00:42:39,980
I think they rose each other's stock up.

1166
00:42:39,980 --> 00:42:42,020
Obviously David Benavides' stock is higher,

1167
00:42:42,020 --> 00:42:44,380
a lot higher at this point.

1168
00:42:44,380 --> 00:42:47,820
But I think that Murrell can come back from this easily.

1169
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:51,340
The only problem is what options are there at 175?

1170
00:42:51,340 --> 00:42:53,980
Yeah, I mean, I've seen the option floated for Murrell

1171
00:42:53,980 --> 00:42:56,460
to fight the winner between Smith and Boazzi.

1172
00:42:56,460 --> 00:42:58,180
I think that's pretty fair.

1173
00:42:58,180 --> 00:42:59,740
That is actually, that's fair.

1174
00:42:59,740 --> 00:43:00,580
That's very fair.

1175
00:43:00,580 --> 00:43:03,500
To fight the winner though, the winner of that fight

1176
00:43:03,500 --> 00:43:08,020
is one of the mandatory slots for the undisputed.

1177
00:43:08,020 --> 00:43:08,860
They're not gonna take Murrell.

1178
00:43:08,860 --> 00:43:10,780
The thing is like, Benavides is probably

1179
00:43:10,780 --> 00:43:11,980
gonna get the next shot though, no?

1180
00:43:11,980 --> 00:43:14,500
He will because the money's better.

1181
00:43:14,500 --> 00:43:15,580
You know how much bullshit it would be

1182
00:43:15,580 --> 00:43:19,180
if imagine if Boazzi won between Smith and Boazzi,

1183
00:43:19,180 --> 00:43:21,660
and that he actually gets the shot at undisputed

1184
00:43:21,660 --> 00:43:23,420
instead of David Benavides?

1185
00:43:23,420 --> 00:43:24,260
I'll be livid.

1186
00:43:25,140 --> 00:43:25,980
I'll be livid.

1187
00:43:25,980 --> 00:43:29,660
If Benavides is getting like stiff at 168 and 175,

1188
00:43:29,660 --> 00:43:31,100
that'd be insane.

1189
00:43:31,100 --> 00:43:33,820
No, I would just kind of crash out at that point.

1190
00:43:33,820 --> 00:43:37,420
I'd be convinced that there was some like internal beat

1191
00:43:37,420 --> 00:43:41,260
between him and some president or worker

1192
00:43:41,260 --> 00:43:43,300
at one of these organizations for the belts.

1193
00:43:43,300 --> 00:43:44,700
I'd be convinced.

1194
00:43:44,700 --> 00:43:46,420
Or should it be WBC, yeah?

1195
00:43:46,420 --> 00:43:47,260
Yeah.

1196
00:43:47,260 --> 00:43:49,060
There's something going on back there

1197
00:43:49,060 --> 00:43:51,220
that he did something or said something

1198
00:43:51,220 --> 00:43:53,460
that they didn't like and it's just,

1199
00:43:53,460 --> 00:43:55,020
they continue to stiff him.

1200
00:43:55,020 --> 00:43:55,860
I'd be convinced.

1201
00:43:57,100 --> 00:43:58,260
Anthony Yard.

1202
00:43:58,260 --> 00:43:59,860
That's another good one.

1203
00:43:59,860 --> 00:44:01,500
Anthony Yard, yeah.

1204
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:02,340
That's a good fight.

1205
00:44:02,340 --> 00:44:03,180
Solid, bro.

1206
00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:07,500
Wozniak, who just fought Benavides, not a bad fight.

1207
00:44:07,500 --> 00:44:08,780
Not a bad fight either.

1208
00:44:08,780 --> 00:44:12,540
The loser of Boazzi, Callum Smith,

1209
00:44:12,540 --> 00:44:15,140
is not a bad fight for Morell either.

1210
00:44:15,140 --> 00:44:17,300
Maybe the loser of Evil Better Beef.

1211
00:44:17,300 --> 00:44:18,140
That too.

1212
00:44:19,060 --> 00:44:19,900
Yeah.

1213
00:44:19,900 --> 00:44:20,740
That would be a hard, that would be a hard.

1214
00:44:20,740 --> 00:44:22,380
That's better.

1215
00:44:22,380 --> 00:44:23,500
That would be a hard fight though.

1216
00:44:23,500 --> 00:44:25,340
Oh yeah, it would.

1217
00:44:25,340 --> 00:44:28,700
And when is Arthur Better BF that loses?

1218
00:44:30,420 --> 00:44:32,580
I don't want Better B to lose.

1219
00:44:32,580 --> 00:44:34,380
I don't want Better B to lose.

1220
00:44:34,380 --> 00:44:36,220
But I was gonna say,

1221
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:39,740
if Better B loses, he might retire, I feel like.

1222
00:44:39,740 --> 00:44:40,940
I think so too.

1223
00:44:40,940 --> 00:44:41,780
Yeah.

1224
00:44:41,780 --> 00:44:43,820
Honestly, I feel like if he wins,

1225
00:44:43,820 --> 00:44:45,500
he might retire too, undefeated.

1226
00:44:45,500 --> 00:44:46,700
I think it goes both ways.

1227
00:44:46,700 --> 00:44:48,020
He's old, he's old.

1228
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:49,580
He's old, yeah.

1229
00:44:49,580 --> 00:44:52,060
And the thing with Better B is that if he retires,

1230
00:44:52,060 --> 00:44:54,100
that kind of splits the belts

1231
00:44:54,100 --> 00:44:57,180
among all the fighters in the right.

1232
00:44:57,180 --> 00:44:59,100
Boazzi Smith is WBO,

1233
00:44:59,100 --> 00:45:02,180
Benavides is WBA, WBC,

1234
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:06,260
and I don't know IBF,

1235
00:45:06,260 --> 00:45:07,820
I don't know who that one is.

1236
00:45:07,820 --> 00:45:09,940
The fact that it's being called the last crescendo

1237
00:45:09,940 --> 00:45:11,700
is kind of making me a little worried

1238
00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:13,500
about if Better B does retire.

1239
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:15,340
Better B is probably gonna, yeah,

1240
00:45:15,340 --> 00:45:16,180
he's probably gonna hang in there.

1241
00:45:16,180 --> 00:45:18,460
His body's falling apart.

1242
00:45:18,460 --> 00:45:20,300
I wanna see Benavides Better B, dude.

1243
00:45:20,300 --> 00:45:22,580
That would be a good fucking scrap.

1244
00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:23,780
I would much rather see that

1245
00:45:23,780 --> 00:45:25,140
than Benavides Canelo.

1246
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:26,300
I would. That's, that's.

1247
00:45:27,700 --> 00:45:28,780
That will die on the hill.

1248
00:45:28,780 --> 00:45:29,620
I would. That will die on the hill.

1249
00:45:29,620 --> 00:45:31,620
That's a crazy thing to say, I feel like.

1250
00:45:31,620 --> 00:45:34,500
He's here to give the hot takes, man.

1251
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:36,700
Oh yeah, yeah, I mean, no, it's,

1252
00:45:36,700 --> 00:45:38,660
listen, we take any take here.

1253
00:45:38,660 --> 00:45:39,940
You would rather see,

1254
00:45:39,940 --> 00:45:42,780
you would rather see Benavides fight Canelo than Better B?

1255
00:45:42,780 --> 00:45:44,300
When we're talking about peaks,

1256
00:45:44,300 --> 00:45:46,780
the hype for Benavides Canelo is probably, like,

1257
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:49,540
one of the most anticipated fights.

1258
00:45:49,540 --> 00:45:51,060
Okay, peaks, yes.

1259
00:45:51,060 --> 00:45:52,420
You're right. No, I agree with you, yeah.

1260
00:45:52,420 --> 00:45:53,260
As it is today.

1261
00:45:53,260 --> 00:45:55,020
It's like, bro, today.

1262
00:45:55,020 --> 00:45:56,340
Yeah, I would, I think.

1263
00:45:56,340 --> 00:45:58,380
I can tell you this right now.

1264
00:45:58,380 --> 00:45:59,500
I can tell you this right now.

1265
00:45:59,500 --> 00:46:01,780
Benavides Canelo would, so, like.

1266
00:46:01,780 --> 00:46:02,620
Oh, definitely.

1267
00:46:02,620 --> 00:46:03,460
Of course.

1268
00:46:03,460 --> 00:46:04,980
By double, probably.

1269
00:46:04,980 --> 00:46:06,460
Double, definitely.

1270
00:46:06,460 --> 00:46:07,740
The thing is that, honestly,

1271
00:46:07,740 --> 00:46:11,260
I still don't see Canelo giving that fight to Benavides.

1272
00:46:11,260 --> 00:46:12,860
And so I think the next best option

1273
00:46:12,860 --> 00:46:16,220
would be a shot at Undisputed with Better B,

1274
00:46:16,220 --> 00:46:18,540
which is gonna be a hard fight, you know what I mean?

1275
00:46:18,540 --> 00:46:20,300
And if he wins against B-Vole,

1276
00:46:20,300 --> 00:46:22,420
that would be crazy to see.

1277
00:46:22,420 --> 00:46:23,700
It'd be fun to watch.

1278
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:26,140
I mean, even for me, I mean, even a couple years ago,

1279
00:46:26,140 --> 00:46:27,820
I just, this might sound crazy.

1280
00:46:27,820 --> 00:46:29,620
Y'all can judge me all you want.

1281
00:46:29,620 --> 00:46:31,820
I honestly thought that Canelo was gonna fight Better B

1282
00:46:31,820 --> 00:46:32,660
by one point.

1283
00:46:32,660 --> 00:46:34,300
And I was up for that, too.

1284
00:46:34,300 --> 00:46:35,780
I was so excited for that fight.

1285
00:46:35,780 --> 00:46:37,540
I could obviously remember about it, too.

1286
00:46:37,540 --> 00:46:39,220
But obviously that never happened.

1287
00:46:39,220 --> 00:46:41,260
So this is the best, best option for me.

1288
00:46:41,260 --> 00:46:43,900
I mean, that's why I'm a little biased in this section.

1289
00:46:43,900 --> 00:46:46,660
Yeah, I mean, these matchups at the top of 125,

1290
00:46:46,660 --> 00:46:48,060
all of them are good.

1291
00:46:48,060 --> 00:46:49,900
Like, there's not a wrong answer.

1292
00:46:49,900 --> 00:46:50,900
Oh, yeah.

1293
00:46:50,900 --> 00:46:54,580
No, yeah, there's a lot of good options out there right now.

1294
00:46:54,580 --> 00:46:56,580
It's very exciting times of boxing right now.

1295
00:46:56,580 --> 00:46:57,620
Very exciting.

1296
00:46:57,620 --> 00:46:59,380
Probably the most exciting it's been since

1297
00:46:59,380 --> 00:47:00,500
the Mayweather days.

1298
00:47:00,500 --> 00:47:02,620
And in every division, too, like it's-

1299
00:47:02,620 --> 00:47:04,460
We've had good years in the meantime.

1300
00:47:05,420 --> 00:47:07,780
We've had some solid years,

1301
00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:09,580
but there was also the boxing dark age

1302
00:47:09,580 --> 00:47:11,180
that we shall not forget.

1303
00:47:12,980 --> 00:47:15,420
But I think we've come out to prosper.

1304
00:47:15,420 --> 00:47:16,260
Yeah.

1305
00:47:16,260 --> 00:47:17,780
I know, from 2023 and on, dude,

1306
00:47:17,780 --> 00:47:20,300
it's been gangbusters, dude.

1307
00:47:20,300 --> 00:47:21,140
Yeah.

1308
00:47:21,140 --> 00:47:21,980
Gangbusters.

1309
00:47:21,980 --> 00:47:24,620
Great fight, it's a great fight, dude.

1310
00:47:24,620 --> 00:47:25,500
It's a bunch, yeah.

1311
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:28,500
This year, like, it's already started off with a banger.

1312
00:47:28,500 --> 00:47:31,380
Yeah, this year, it's already-

1313
00:47:31,380 --> 00:47:33,300
I mean, it starts well and ends well.

1314
00:47:33,300 --> 00:47:34,220
See how it goes in the middle,

1315
00:47:34,220 --> 00:47:36,980
but the start looks pretty good.

1316
00:47:36,980 --> 00:47:38,660
I mean, drama in Las Vegas at the beginning of the year

1317
00:47:38,660 --> 00:47:40,100
is already amazing.

1318
00:47:40,100 --> 00:47:42,380
I'm expecting at the end of the year,

1319
00:47:42,380 --> 00:47:43,900
probably something.

1320
00:47:43,900 --> 00:47:46,700
I'm honestly expecting AJ Fury at the end of the year,

1321
00:47:46,700 --> 00:47:48,060
sometime near the end of the year.

1322
00:47:48,060 --> 00:47:49,820
That would be an insane fight, yeah.

1323
00:47:49,820 --> 00:47:52,580
I mean, a lot of, the world would love that.

1324
00:47:53,660 --> 00:47:56,100
I also see Canelo Crawford in September.

1325
00:47:56,980 --> 00:47:57,820
Yeah, exactly.

1326
00:47:57,820 --> 00:47:58,660
That's what I'm saying.

1327
00:47:58,660 --> 00:48:00,220
We have a start.

1328
00:48:00,220 --> 00:48:02,980
The start is already insane, like, Benavides Morel.

1329
00:48:02,980 --> 00:48:04,700
We got the last Machendo as well.

1330
00:48:04,700 --> 00:48:07,540
DuPont Parker, Virgil Magrimoff.

1331
00:48:07,540 --> 00:48:09,260
There's, I mean, a ton of fights on that card.

1332
00:48:09,260 --> 00:48:11,020
Yeah, like, you see what I mean?

1333
00:48:11,020 --> 00:48:14,100
We'll probably end well as well, but.

1334
00:48:14,100 --> 00:48:15,900
Yeah, man, 125 is looking good.

1335
00:48:15,900 --> 00:48:18,820
It's very, very top heavy, but.

1336
00:48:18,820 --> 00:48:20,180
A lot of fights.

1337
00:48:20,180 --> 00:48:22,380
I would say this is a similar situation

1338
00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:24,460
where there's a lot of good fights

1339
00:48:24,460 --> 00:48:26,460
that you can make at, like, the B level.

1340
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:27,300
Yeah.

1341
00:48:27,300 --> 00:48:30,100
You take out the two kings and, you know,

1342
00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,100
like, Benavides, and there's a ton of fights

1343
00:48:33,100 --> 00:48:36,100
that you can make that are really, really entertaining.

1344
00:48:37,180 --> 00:48:40,700
You have a lot of Super Six tournament style matches

1345
00:48:40,700 --> 00:48:41,540
that you can make.

1346
00:48:41,540 --> 00:48:42,380
Yeah.

1347
00:48:42,380 --> 00:48:43,220
You know what I mean?

1348
00:48:43,220 --> 00:48:45,460
Any Benavides matchup is gonna be good.

1349
00:48:45,460 --> 00:48:46,860
Gangbusters.

1350
00:48:46,860 --> 00:48:48,620
Yeah, any matchup.

1351
00:48:48,620 --> 00:48:53,060
All right, we have to, we gotta fucking press on here.

1352
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And then now we move on into our fucking previews

1390
00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:22,460
because I'm really good at this.

1391
00:50:22,460 --> 00:50:24,780
Thursday, February 13th.

1392
00:50:24,780 --> 00:50:26,940
Only two fights on this card.

1393
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:30,020
It's a star promotions card in Huntington, New York.

1394
00:50:30,020 --> 00:50:31,460
Only two that I wanna mention.

1395
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:34,460
Mickey Scala, he's a local boy for me,

1396
00:50:34,460 --> 00:50:36,140
versus Victor Tony.

1397
00:50:36,140 --> 00:50:39,660
So eight round 154s and then Joe Smith.

1398
00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:40,500
That-

1399
00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:41,340
Holy shit.

1400
00:50:41,340 --> 00:50:42,180
Yeah, he's still doing it.

1401
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:45,580
I'm surprised. I did not think he was fighting good.

1402
00:50:45,580 --> 00:50:47,060
No, I saw Joseph, Jr.

1403
00:50:47,060 --> 00:50:48,340
I'm like, what the fuck?

1404
00:50:48,340 --> 00:50:50,940
Yep, versus Devontae Williams.

1405
00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:52,660
10 round cruisers.

1406
00:50:52,660 --> 00:50:54,180
So that's fun.

1407
00:50:54,180 --> 00:50:56,020
I'll hear Izzy talk about it.

1408
00:50:56,020 --> 00:50:58,620
I'll listen to Izzy talk about it.

1409
00:50:58,620 --> 00:50:59,860
Not much to say about it.

1410
00:50:59,860 --> 00:51:04,580
It's like he's old and doing this for cash, I expect.

1411
00:51:04,580 --> 00:51:05,700
Yeah.

1412
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,900
Friday, February 14th.

1413
00:51:07,900 --> 00:51:11,580
Top rank at the MSG theater in New York.

1414
00:51:11,580 --> 00:51:13,980
Bottom up as we usually do.

1415
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:17,300
Juanma Lopez de Jesus making his debut

1416
00:51:17,300 --> 00:51:19,060
against Brian Santiago.

1417
00:51:19,060 --> 00:51:23,060
Kion Davis versus Ira Johnson at-

1418
00:51:23,060 --> 00:51:24,260
DB3.

1419
00:51:24,260 --> 00:51:26,260
Is he a DB3?

1420
00:51:26,260 --> 00:51:29,180
Yeah, it's Kion and then obviously Keyshawn

1421
00:51:29,180 --> 00:51:30,700
and then someone, what's the other brother's name?

1422
00:51:30,700 --> 00:51:31,540
Not sure.

1423
00:51:31,540 --> 00:51:33,300
That's why I was wondering.

1424
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:34,980
Cause they all fought on the same card,

1425
00:51:34,980 --> 00:51:36,940
Keyshawn last time, DB3.

1426
00:51:36,940 --> 00:51:38,580
Moving up.

1427
00:51:38,580 --> 00:51:42,020
Nico Ali Walsh versus Juan Carlos Guerra.

1428
00:51:42,020 --> 00:51:43,140
Six round middles.

1429
00:51:43,140 --> 00:51:46,700
Now, the fun fact, I don't know if you guys know this.

1430
00:51:46,700 --> 00:51:50,860
It's kind of like a boxing insider kind of secret.

1431
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:54,380
Nico Ali Walsh is actually Muhammad Ali's grandson.

1432
00:51:54,380 --> 00:51:55,420
Did you know that?

1433
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:56,380
Really? I didn't know that.

1434
00:51:56,380 --> 00:51:57,700
Yeah, I know.

1435
00:51:57,700 --> 00:52:00,380
I know top rank really tries to keep that under wraps.

1436
00:52:00,380 --> 00:52:01,220
So-

1437
00:52:01,220 --> 00:52:02,300
Yeah, that makes sense.

1438
00:52:02,300 --> 00:52:03,460
Yeah.

1439
00:52:03,460 --> 00:52:05,580
I don't know why top rank doesn't advertise that one.

1440
00:52:05,580 --> 00:52:06,420
Yeah, you should.

1441
00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:07,620
They'll probably make a whole lot of money.

1442
00:52:07,620 --> 00:52:08,700
Lean into it.

1443
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:10,700
All right, Delante Johnson versus,

1444
00:52:10,700 --> 00:52:12,620
oh shit, Koshan, I think it is.

1445
00:52:12,620 --> 00:52:15,220
Toler, eight round welters.

1446
00:52:15,220 --> 00:52:17,140
Abdullah Mason.

1447
00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:17,980
There you go.

1448
00:52:17,980 --> 00:52:21,340
Manuel James, eight round lights.

1449
00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:25,700
I don't know if people are being a little bit too hyperbolic

1450
00:52:25,700 --> 00:52:28,100
on Mason's last performance.

1451
00:52:28,100 --> 00:52:30,780
He did get knocked down twice.

1452
00:52:30,780 --> 00:52:34,500
I would say both of them were flash KDs.

1453
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:36,140
He didn't look bothered.

1454
00:52:36,140 --> 00:52:41,140
Cause he came back both times to put a whooping on the opponent.

1455
00:52:41,140 --> 00:52:44,300
I was wondering where I had, I was just gonna say,

1456
00:52:44,300 --> 00:52:46,660
I was wondering where I had heard this name before.

1457
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:47,740
He fought Rowley.

1458
00:52:47,740 --> 00:52:51,660
Yeah, you fought him during the Belonga card, right?

1459
00:52:51,660 --> 00:52:53,140
I was gonna say it was Timo Borrino.

1460
00:52:53,140 --> 00:52:55,820
So probably, yeah, it was probably a big card.

1461
00:52:55,820 --> 00:52:57,940
Yeah, it was last year on the Belonga.

1462
00:52:57,940 --> 00:52:58,780
Yeah.

1463
00:52:58,780 --> 00:53:01,580
I was wondering where I'd seen his name before.

1464
00:53:01,580 --> 00:53:04,060
Well, Abdullah Mason.

1465
00:53:04,060 --> 00:53:09,060
If Peyton Talbot can put it back together, so can you.

1466
00:53:09,180 --> 00:53:10,340
I believe in you.

1467
00:53:10,340 --> 00:53:11,580
Hopefully it is, will ya?

1468
00:53:11,580 --> 00:53:13,100
Yeah, hopefully.

1469
00:53:13,100 --> 00:53:14,580
Hopefully, hopefully, hopefully.

1470
00:53:14,580 --> 00:53:18,580
Moving up Vito Melnicki, 10 rounds at middleweight

1471
00:53:18,580 --> 00:53:20,820
versus Connor Coyle.

1472
00:53:20,820 --> 00:53:24,700
Melnicki's a recent acquisition to the top rank family.

1473
00:53:24,700 --> 00:53:26,700
He used to be on PBC.

1474
00:53:26,700 --> 00:53:28,060
I remember that.

1475
00:53:28,060 --> 00:53:28,900
In the old days.

1476
00:53:28,900 --> 00:53:29,820
Yeah.

1477
00:53:29,820 --> 00:53:33,260
Rohan Polanco versus Jean Carlos Torres.

1478
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:34,780
10 round welters.

1479
00:53:34,780 --> 00:53:37,740
Oh shit, Jared Anderson.

1480
00:53:38,900 --> 00:53:40,300
Come back, real clever to come back.

1481
00:53:40,300 --> 00:53:41,500
Don't call it a comeback.

1482
00:53:41,500 --> 00:53:43,180
Mario's, Colley.

1483
00:53:43,180 --> 00:53:44,140
I just hear it.

1484
00:53:44,140 --> 00:53:46,460
Yeah, I mean, this is just to get him back on track,

1485
00:53:46,460 --> 00:53:49,420
I'm assuming, like, and I don't know who Mario's is.

1486
00:53:49,420 --> 00:53:50,260
Yeah, I don't know who he's either.

1487
00:53:50,260 --> 00:53:51,980
I'm assuming he's meant to win this fight.

1488
00:53:51,980 --> 00:53:53,020
Yeah.

1489
00:53:53,020 --> 00:53:54,740
What'd you guys, $5 gonna say that this is the best

1490
00:53:54,740 --> 00:53:57,700
that Jared Anderson, Jared Anderson,

1491
00:53:57,700 --> 00:53:59,540
and that he's never looked any better?

1492
00:53:59,540 --> 00:54:04,540
I mean, the Colley loss was bad.

1493
00:54:05,540 --> 00:54:07,660
His chain got cracked like multiple times.

1494
00:54:07,660 --> 00:54:08,900
I'm actually gonna be curious to see.

1495
00:54:08,900 --> 00:54:12,340
It's either you look better or you look like shit

1496
00:54:12,340 --> 00:54:13,660
after a loss like that.

1497
00:54:14,500 --> 00:54:15,860
Yeah, you still in it for the money?

1498
00:54:15,860 --> 00:54:19,300
Yeah, I mean, taking that fight,

1499
00:54:19,300 --> 00:54:21,500
and like, you know, even against top ranks,

1500
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:23,460
advice telling him not to take that fight,

1501
00:54:23,460 --> 00:54:24,580
that's normally a bad sign.

1502
00:54:24,580 --> 00:54:26,580
You know, he's money hungry, but we'll see.

1503
00:54:26,580 --> 00:54:28,180
I gotta respect the guy though.

1504
00:54:28,180 --> 00:54:30,900
I respect him for going in the fight.

1505
00:54:30,900 --> 00:54:32,820
That was a hard fight that I don't think

1506
00:54:32,820 --> 00:54:33,980
many would have won.

1507
00:54:33,980 --> 00:54:34,980
Yeah, I mean.

1508
00:54:34,980 --> 00:54:37,380
I don't think people know who Bacolay is,

1509
00:54:37,380 --> 00:54:40,260
and that's why they didn't know what to expect.

1510
00:54:40,260 --> 00:54:44,580
Yeah, I mean, Bacolay, he looked like a giant

1511
00:54:44,580 --> 00:54:45,940
in there in comparison.

1512
00:54:45,940 --> 00:54:47,300
Yeah.

1513
00:54:47,300 --> 00:54:48,420
It's huge.

1514
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:52,460
All right, moving up, Xander Zayas versus Slava Spomer.

1515
00:54:52,460 --> 00:54:54,300
10 round 154s.

1516
00:54:54,300 --> 00:54:58,220
Oh, fun, Xander Zayas.

1517
00:54:58,220 --> 00:54:59,060
Nice.

1518
00:54:59,060 --> 00:55:00,860
So, look at the rankings.

1519
00:55:00,860 --> 00:55:03,020
And in the main event, Dennis Branschek,

1520
00:55:03,020 --> 00:55:07,700
the WBO 135 champ versus Keyshawn Davis.

1521
00:55:07,700 --> 00:55:10,900
Well, WBO, whatever Bob orders,

1522
00:55:10,900 --> 00:55:15,220
he's gotta make sure that his guys have the title

1523
00:55:15,220 --> 00:55:16,900
that he pays for.

1524
00:55:16,900 --> 00:55:18,020
It's a top ranked. It's time.

1525
00:55:18,020 --> 00:55:18,860
Sponsored.

1526
00:55:18,860 --> 00:55:21,020
It's a top ranked title, it really is.

1527
00:55:21,020 --> 00:55:24,180
I was gonna say it's time.

1528
00:55:24,180 --> 00:55:25,940
Keyshawn's gonna get a belt.

1529
00:55:25,940 --> 00:55:27,380
It is time for Keyshawn to become a champ.

1530
00:55:27,380 --> 00:55:29,540
Hold up, hold up, hold up.

1531
00:55:29,540 --> 00:55:32,420
I think y'all don't count out Derris Berenshik,

1532
00:55:32,420 --> 00:55:33,580
do not count out the guy.

1533
00:55:33,580 --> 00:55:36,660
Even though, yes, I think Keyshawn will win too.

1534
00:55:36,660 --> 00:55:39,580
At the same time, Berenshik is not walking the park.

1535
00:55:39,580 --> 00:55:40,420
No, he's not.

1536
00:55:40,420 --> 00:55:41,500
You're absolutely right.

1537
00:55:41,500 --> 00:55:44,300
He's Ukrainian, so they have like some natural

1538
00:55:44,300 --> 00:55:45,340
gifts for boxing, but.

1539
00:55:45,340 --> 00:55:47,500
They've got like a plus five deal.

1540
00:55:47,500 --> 00:55:48,700
Yeah, they got some buffs.

1541
00:55:48,700 --> 00:55:50,980
Yeah, oh, really?

1542
00:55:50,980 --> 00:55:52,020
They got Usyk.

1543
00:55:52,020 --> 00:55:52,860
They got Usyk at least, but yeah,

1544
00:55:52,860 --> 00:55:53,900
I'm gonna be back in Keyshawn.

1545
00:55:53,900 --> 00:55:55,060
Spouchuk.

1546
00:55:55,060 --> 00:55:55,900
Yeah.

1547
00:55:55,900 --> 00:55:57,300
I got Keyshawn too, but the thing is,

1548
00:55:57,300 --> 00:55:59,700
it's gonna be, I for sure think it's gonna be

1549
00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:00,820
Keyshawn's hardest fight.

1550
00:56:00,820 --> 00:56:01,660
Technical fight.

1551
00:56:01,660 --> 00:56:02,580
No doubt about it.

1552
00:56:02,580 --> 00:56:05,260
Berenshik isn't like a brawler or anything.

1553
00:56:05,260 --> 00:56:06,100
No?

1554
00:56:06,100 --> 00:56:07,900
Dude, that's how he beat Nav.

1555
00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:08,740
That's how he beat Nav.

1556
00:56:08,740 --> 00:56:09,580
Yeah, he beat Nav.

1557
00:56:09,580 --> 00:56:10,660
By brawling?

1558
00:56:10,660 --> 00:56:12,300
No, no, like by not brawling.

1559
00:56:12,300 --> 00:56:13,860
By technical.

1560
00:56:13,860 --> 00:56:14,940
Box the hell out of him.

1561
00:56:14,940 --> 00:56:17,180
And Nav's a quote unquote hard puncher, you know?

1562
00:56:17,180 --> 00:56:20,500
It's like, Berenshik to beat Nav,

1563
00:56:20,500 --> 00:56:21,460
it's pretty interesting.

1564
00:56:21,460 --> 00:56:22,860
I remember a lot of people saying at the time

1565
00:56:22,860 --> 00:56:24,580
that Nav was gonna kill Berenshik.

1566
00:56:25,540 --> 00:56:26,500
You guys all remember that?

1567
00:56:26,500 --> 00:56:27,340
I do.

1568
00:56:27,340 --> 00:56:28,180
Y'all remember that, right?

1569
00:56:28,180 --> 00:56:30,420
Yeah, it was casual.

1570
00:56:30,420 --> 00:56:31,660
I don't always throw it out

1571
00:56:31,660 --> 00:56:33,300
because I don't like using the term,

1572
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:35,820
but like that's some casual shit.

1573
00:56:35,820 --> 00:56:37,540
Do you not know who Berenshik is?

1574
00:56:37,540 --> 00:56:39,860
I see, were you one of the people who was saying that?

1575
00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:40,900
No, I wasn't.

1576
00:56:40,900 --> 00:56:42,500
I thought Nav was gonna win,

1577
00:56:42,500 --> 00:56:46,140
but he wasn't gonna like bop him out or anything like that.

1578
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:49,540
Yeah, I mean, Nav, historically,

1579
00:56:49,540 --> 00:56:51,500
I mean, if you put him up against a brawler,

1580
00:56:51,500 --> 00:56:53,180
I feel like he has like good chances to win,

1581
00:56:53,180 --> 00:56:54,340
but against a boxer,

1582
00:56:55,260 --> 00:56:56,100
like someone actually like-

1583
00:56:56,100 --> 00:56:58,540
Oh, Keeshawn is that type too.

1584
00:56:58,540 --> 00:56:59,380
He could box him.

1585
00:56:59,380 --> 00:57:02,060
Yeah, it's, he can get rough, but yeah.

1586
00:57:02,060 --> 00:57:03,660
I could, yeah, you're right.

1587
00:57:03,660 --> 00:57:06,420
Sting, it can get rough for Keeshawn.

1588
00:57:06,420 --> 00:57:08,860
It can get really rough real fast for Keeshawn.

1589
00:57:08,860 --> 00:57:10,660
If he doesn't pick a punch right.

1590
00:57:10,660 --> 00:57:13,820
He's like, Keeshawn is riding on a pretty big wave

1591
00:57:13,820 --> 00:57:14,700
at the moment.

1592
00:57:14,700 --> 00:57:16,580
He created like off the Lemosh win.

1593
00:57:17,740 --> 00:57:18,580
That Lemosh win was good.

1594
00:57:18,580 --> 00:57:21,820
I mean, sometime Lemosh came in over way, I mean,

1595
00:57:22,900 --> 00:57:25,700
Keeshawn just laid him out like super easy.

1596
00:57:25,700 --> 00:57:28,020
I mean, he's riding on a big wave.

1597
00:57:28,020 --> 00:57:31,460
He can get this win, he gets the belt.

1598
00:57:31,460 --> 00:57:32,900
I mean, Keeshawn is on his way.

1599
00:57:32,900 --> 00:57:34,300
I mean, he's not gonna,

1600
00:57:34,300 --> 00:57:35,500
I'm not saying he's gonna be selling out

1601
00:57:35,500 --> 00:57:37,300
million dollar pay-per-views

1602
00:57:37,300 --> 00:57:38,860
or a million pay-per-views any time soon,

1603
00:57:38,860 --> 00:57:41,940
but he's on his way to be like somewhat of a well-known

1604
00:57:41,940 --> 00:57:43,900
and respected name.

1605
00:57:43,900 --> 00:57:45,260
A pay-per-view.

1606
00:57:45,260 --> 00:57:46,780
Yeah, I mean, someone that you can put on a pay-per-view

1607
00:57:46,780 --> 00:57:48,100
and he'll sell.

1608
00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:50,580
My thing is that if Keeshawn needs more fights

1609
00:57:50,580 --> 00:57:52,220
to become a pay-per-view star

1610
00:57:52,220 --> 00:57:54,580
and to become at least well-known,

1611
00:57:54,580 --> 00:57:55,980
I think if to become well-known,

1612
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:58,380
he would have to fight Shakur at the very least.

1613
00:57:58,380 --> 00:57:59,220
Not Tank, obviously,

1614
00:57:59,220 --> 00:58:01,140
cause I think Tank would kill him,

1615
00:58:01,140 --> 00:58:03,300
but Shakur would be a good fight for him.

1616
00:58:03,300 --> 00:58:06,060
Honestly, I think that Keeshawn could win.

1617
00:58:06,060 --> 00:58:06,900
You think Shakur would win?

1618
00:58:06,900 --> 00:58:08,820
It's a tall ask.

1619
00:58:08,820 --> 00:58:09,660
Oh yeah, well.

1620
00:58:09,660 --> 00:58:11,140
It's a tall ask.

1621
00:58:11,140 --> 00:58:11,980
Shakur's asking, yeah.

1622
00:58:11,980 --> 00:58:13,300
Actually, the thing is with that fight,

1623
00:58:13,300 --> 00:58:15,140
I think it'd go either way.

1624
00:58:15,140 --> 00:58:18,220
I think on paper it's like a 60-40 fight.

1625
00:58:18,220 --> 00:58:19,060
You know what I mean?

1626
00:58:19,060 --> 00:58:23,380
I think Shakur has a solid chance of beating Keeshawn,

1627
00:58:23,380 --> 00:58:25,460
but he's got a lot of skill.

1628
00:58:25,460 --> 00:58:27,020
Keeshawn's got a lot of skill too.

1629
00:58:27,020 --> 00:58:27,860
So you never know how it's gonna turn out.

1630
00:58:27,860 --> 00:58:30,100
It would be a fight that people

1631
00:58:30,100 --> 00:58:31,820
would definitely wanna see though.

1632
00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:34,100
That's a good match.

1633
00:58:34,100 --> 00:58:37,180
Like if they made that fight, Keeshawn versus Shakur,

1634
00:58:38,020 --> 00:58:38,980
he would walk away being like,

1635
00:58:38,980 --> 00:58:40,300
oh, this is a legitimate fight.

1636
00:58:40,300 --> 00:58:41,980
They're not fighting cans.

1637
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:45,180
This is a legit best versus best type fight.

1638
00:58:46,100 --> 00:58:50,140
And with Shakur too, you have the whole top-ranked beef

1639
00:58:50,140 --> 00:58:51,580
with how he left top-ranked.

1640
00:58:51,580 --> 00:58:53,060
I mean, they can have that in there too.

1641
00:58:53,060 --> 00:58:55,420
So they're leapfrogging promotions, but yeah.

1642
00:58:57,020 --> 00:58:59,940
Keeshawn, this is a big step up.

1643
00:58:59,940 --> 00:59:01,500
This is Keeshawn's chance.

1644
00:59:01,500 --> 00:59:02,340
We had a ride with him.

1645
00:59:02,340 --> 00:59:04,340
I mean, I saw him in the Olympics,

1646
00:59:04,340 --> 00:59:06,580
his whole Olympic run that he made.

1647
00:59:07,860 --> 00:59:08,700
It was impressive.

1648
00:59:08,700 --> 00:59:09,940
It was impressive.

1649
00:59:09,940 --> 00:59:10,860
No, it was great.

1650
00:59:10,860 --> 00:59:12,340
I remember, it was amazing.

1651
00:59:12,340 --> 00:59:13,380
Yeah.

1652
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:16,140
Yeah, I think if Keeshawn wins,

1653
00:59:16,140 --> 00:59:18,500
I think he should go for Shakur next.

1654
00:59:18,500 --> 00:59:21,460
If not Shakur, probably someone like Zapeta.

1655
00:59:21,460 --> 00:59:22,700
Zapeta would be a good one.

1656
00:59:22,700 --> 00:59:25,900
It would be interesting to see who we cause out.

1657
00:59:25,900 --> 00:59:28,380
I'm sorry, I just want someone to be sure.

1658
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:30,780
Zapeta right now, I don't know what he's doing.

1659
00:59:30,780 --> 00:59:32,220
I mean, they're talking about the farmer rematch

1660
00:59:32,220 --> 00:59:36,900
and I don't know what's going on in Zapeta's camp

1661
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:39,820
at the moment, but yes, yes.

1662
00:59:39,820 --> 00:59:41,740
Zapeta's camp is pissing me off, man.

1663
00:59:42,580 --> 00:59:45,340
Yeah, it's gone so awry.

1664
00:59:45,340 --> 00:59:46,380
I don't know.

1665
00:59:46,380 --> 00:59:48,100
It's like in less than a year,

1666
00:59:48,100 --> 00:59:52,380
Zapeta's image has just sunk so low.

1667
00:59:52,380 --> 00:59:54,740
Low, low, like really, really low.

1668
00:59:54,740 --> 00:59:57,700
We're like, he's own fucking, that's stable, mate.

1669
00:59:57,700 --> 01:00:00,540
And Goldenboy, Floyd Schofield.

1670
01:00:00,540 --> 01:00:02,180
He's fighting Shakur before him.

1671
01:00:02,180 --> 01:00:03,660
Yeah, that's some shit.

1672
01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:06,300
It's like, that's kind of bold.

1673
01:00:06,300 --> 01:00:08,340
Because I think Floyd's Zapeta

1674
01:00:08,340 --> 01:00:09,980
really should have gotten that fight first.

1675
01:00:09,980 --> 01:00:11,220
Of course he should have.

1676
01:00:11,220 --> 01:00:13,060
But obviously not, you know.

1677
01:00:13,060 --> 01:00:14,700
We'll see if that gets made,

1678
01:00:14,700 --> 01:00:18,260
the fight gets made for the Goldenboy in matchroom 5v5,

1679
01:00:18,260 --> 01:00:19,980
if that even happens.

1680
01:00:19,980 --> 01:00:22,660
That was one of the fights that they had floated,

1681
01:00:22,660 --> 01:00:26,140
was Shakur, assuming he beats Schofield.

1682
01:00:27,660 --> 01:00:28,500
But yeah.

1683
01:00:28,500 --> 01:00:29,900
Assuming, yeah.

1684
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:31,860
So. Well, we'll see.

1685
01:00:31,860 --> 01:00:34,700
Yeah, anything more for Branschek versus Davis,

1686
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:37,420
the Valentine's Day card?

1687
01:00:37,420 --> 01:00:38,820
This is a decent card, I'm gonna lie.

1688
01:00:38,820 --> 01:00:39,660
It is.

1689
01:00:39,660 --> 01:00:41,500
Are you guys gonna be busy on that day

1690
01:00:41,500 --> 01:00:43,180
or are you gonna watch the fight?

1691
01:00:43,180 --> 01:00:47,060
Oh, I wouldn't be a boxing fucking sicko

1692
01:00:47,060 --> 01:00:49,860
if I had a girlfriend or something, so.

1693
01:00:49,860 --> 01:00:51,820
Sex, sex, sex.

1694
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:54,140
I used to come out here.

1695
01:00:54,140 --> 01:00:55,660
She'd be watching that shit with me.

1696
01:00:55,660 --> 01:00:56,500
Exactly.

1697
01:00:56,500 --> 01:00:58,060
Yeah.

1698
01:00:58,060 --> 01:01:00,380
Like, hold up, I'll give you a photo later.

1699
01:01:00,380 --> 01:01:01,940
Keyshawn's fighting right now, all right?

1700
01:01:01,940 --> 01:01:03,820
He's gonna get better, hold up.

1701
01:01:03,820 --> 01:01:07,380
Unfortunately, February 14th, line down.

1702
01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:09,660
I'm gonna be up on a boxing day, so.

1703
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:12,220
Yeah.

1704
01:01:12,220 --> 01:01:15,580
I would honestly throw out the old,

1705
01:01:16,980 --> 01:01:18,860
I don't know, Marxist thing.

1706
01:01:18,860 --> 01:01:21,100
Like, it's a commercial holiday.

1707
01:01:21,100 --> 01:01:23,300
Why are you gonna feed the capitalist pigs

1708
01:01:23,300 --> 01:01:27,380
with your bullshit fucking holiday made up?

1709
01:01:27,380 --> 01:01:28,220
You whip it out, yeah.

1710
01:01:28,220 --> 01:01:29,060
Yeah.

1711
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:29,900
You're gonna justify this?

1712
01:01:29,900 --> 01:01:30,740
Yeah.

1713
01:01:30,740 --> 01:01:32,860
I gotta justify being a sicko.

1714
01:01:32,860 --> 01:01:35,340
Like, it's a Ukrainian.

1715
01:01:35,340 --> 01:01:36,740
This is the last chance that we have

1716
01:01:36,740 --> 01:01:39,500
to be on the right side of history here.

1717
01:01:39,500 --> 01:01:40,940
As sex.

1718
01:01:40,940 --> 01:01:44,540
It's not Valentine's Day, it's brain check versus Davis.

1719
01:01:44,540 --> 01:01:46,380
It's David's Day, it's David's Day.

1720
01:01:46,380 --> 01:01:47,580
It's David's Day.

1721
01:01:47,580 --> 01:01:48,980
David's Day, yes.

1722
01:01:50,220 --> 01:01:51,460
All right, moving on.

1723
01:01:51,460 --> 01:01:56,300
Saturday, February 15th, really quickly, the Samson card.

1724
01:01:56,300 --> 01:01:59,380
Well, we've already discussed how we feel about this fellow.

1725
01:02:00,340 --> 01:02:02,020
But this one's in Buenos Aires.

1726
01:02:02,020 --> 01:02:05,300
It's, actually, I bring this one up to mention

1727
01:02:05,300 --> 01:02:08,260
that the Spanish language show's coming back.

1728
01:02:08,260 --> 01:02:12,620
So, boxing en español, we're gonna be doing it again.

1729
01:02:13,780 --> 01:02:14,620
There you go.

1730
01:02:14,620 --> 01:02:15,820
We'll be talking about the, like,

1731
01:02:15,820 --> 01:02:20,220
we talk about these types of cards more over there.

1732
01:02:20,220 --> 01:02:22,060
So if you wanna get into the,

1733
01:02:22,060 --> 01:02:26,300
if you wanna talk like Japanese fucking shit, come here.

1734
01:02:26,300 --> 01:02:28,380
Because we do that here.

1735
01:02:28,380 --> 01:02:30,780
But if you wanna talk like Latino cards,

1736
01:02:30,780 --> 01:02:31,900
we got you over there.

1737
01:02:32,940 --> 01:02:34,580
Right, last thing.

1738
01:02:34,580 --> 01:02:37,900
Co-live arena in Manchester, matchroom.

1739
01:02:37,900 --> 01:02:40,460
Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa.

1740
01:02:41,540 --> 01:02:46,540
Oh, not too, not too fucking jazzed

1741
01:02:46,580 --> 01:02:50,260
about the main, about the undercard.

1742
01:02:50,260 --> 01:02:53,940
But I'm gonna list them really quickly anyway,

1743
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:56,140
because yes.

1744
01:02:56,140 --> 01:02:58,740
Pat McCormick versus Robbie Davies Jr.

1745
01:02:58,740 --> 01:02:59,740
10 round welters.

1746
01:02:59,740 --> 01:03:02,540
Reese Bellotti versus Michael Gomez Jr.

1747
01:03:02,540 --> 01:03:04,900
12 round, 130s.

1748
01:03:04,900 --> 01:03:08,420
Zelfa Barrett versus Jazza Dickens.

1749
01:03:08,420 --> 01:03:10,980
12 round, 130s.

1750
01:03:10,980 --> 01:03:12,060
Fun.

1751
01:03:12,060 --> 01:03:13,620
That is a fun card right there.

1752
01:03:13,620 --> 01:03:15,900
It's a fun card.

1753
01:03:15,900 --> 01:03:17,140
Can't wait to watch it.

1754
01:03:17,140 --> 01:03:19,780
Jack Cattarall versus Arnold Barbosa

1755
01:03:19,780 --> 01:03:24,260
for the interim WBO super lightweight title, it's 140.

1756
01:03:25,580 --> 01:03:27,180
It's fun, man.

1757
01:03:27,180 --> 01:03:28,660
I'm beside myself.

1758
01:03:28,660 --> 01:03:30,060
This is just incredible.

1759
01:03:30,060 --> 01:03:33,100
I'm off watching Arnold Barbosa Jr. fight.

1760
01:03:33,100 --> 01:03:33,940
I'm not too-

1761
01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:35,060
My favorite fighter.

1762
01:03:35,060 --> 01:03:37,060
Unironically, I do kind of like him,

1763
01:03:37,060 --> 01:03:41,500
just because of his personality, more than his fighting.

1764
01:03:41,500 --> 01:03:42,340
No, yeah, me too.

1765
01:03:42,340 --> 01:03:44,460
I respect the guy, he's very humble.

1766
01:03:44,460 --> 01:03:45,300
Yeah.

1767
01:03:45,300 --> 01:03:46,980
But I just can't help but just-

1768
01:03:46,980 --> 01:03:48,660
It's not the best.

1769
01:03:48,660 --> 01:03:51,540
This isn't the best we get to be going into.

1770
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:54,300
Yep, and I think you're forgetting the Golden Boy.

1771
01:03:54,300 --> 01:03:55,140
Is there a Golden Boy?

1772
01:03:55,140 --> 01:03:55,980
I don't know.

1773
01:03:55,980 --> 01:03:58,820
The best fight of the night, pro Gravers is Orte.

1774
01:03:58,820 --> 01:04:00,900
That's right, they're on the same day.

1775
01:04:00,900 --> 01:04:03,620
I forgot about that, Oscar Duarte versus-

1776
01:04:03,620 --> 01:04:05,740
That's another guy who just can't quit, it's Pro Grave.

1777
01:04:05,740 --> 01:04:07,180
Pro Grave, I like him.

1778
01:04:07,180 --> 01:04:08,900
Duarte really might do him dirty.

1779
01:04:08,900 --> 01:04:10,300
Yeah, I think so too.

1780
01:04:10,300 --> 01:04:12,700
I mean, yeah, I mean, we'll see what happens that day.

1781
01:04:12,700 --> 01:04:15,580
Yeah, if Pro Grave got hurt by Haney,

1782
01:04:15,580 --> 01:04:17,900
Duarte might actually have him out cold.

1783
01:04:17,900 --> 01:04:19,060
If Pro Grave can,

1784
01:04:19,060 --> 01:04:21,540
imagine if Pro Grave knocked the fuck out of Duarte.

1785
01:04:21,540 --> 01:04:22,540
That would be-

1786
01:04:22,540 --> 01:04:23,580
That would be wonderful.

1787
01:04:23,580 --> 01:04:25,420
I mean, I don't even know if you can call him a surgeon,

1788
01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:27,540
because his career is not really gonna go anywhere,

1789
01:04:27,540 --> 01:04:30,300
but it would be an insane upset, I think.

1790
01:04:30,300 --> 01:04:31,860
Like, I don't know what Vegas has in my body,

1791
01:04:31,860 --> 01:04:33,420
Duarte has to be the favorite.

1792
01:04:33,420 --> 01:04:34,260
But you could get that point,

1793
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:36,140
after that you'd have Pro Grave versus Broly,

1794
01:04:36,140 --> 01:04:38,940
and then after that you have Pro Grave versus Ryan.

1795
01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:41,620
Just step back to the title holder.

1796
01:04:41,620 --> 01:04:42,460
The title.

1797
01:04:42,460 --> 01:04:43,340
Pro Grave, give me a sec.

1798
01:04:43,340 --> 01:04:45,340
Was there ever a lot of Pro Grave hype?

1799
01:04:46,340 --> 01:04:47,180
Yeah, there was a point-

1800
01:04:47,180 --> 01:04:49,940
Before the World Boxing Super Series.

1801
01:04:49,940 --> 01:04:51,620
Yeah, there was a point where people had Pro Grave

1802
01:04:51,620 --> 01:04:54,220
over the people like Haney, T-Tale, Tank,

1803
01:04:54,220 --> 01:04:55,900
they had Pro Grave over everyone.

1804
01:04:55,900 --> 01:04:56,740
Interesting.

1805
01:04:56,740 --> 01:04:57,580
Yeah, I-

1806
01:04:57,580 --> 01:04:59,300
It was a long time ago.

1807
01:04:59,300 --> 01:05:01,620
Long, yeah, it sounds like a long time ago, yeah.

1808
01:05:01,620 --> 01:05:03,140
It was.

1809
01:05:03,140 --> 01:05:03,980
Quite some time.

1810
01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:08,060
Wonder how Teal Fumah mixes into all of this.

1811
01:05:08,060 --> 01:05:09,620
I remember he was gonna fight,

1812
01:05:09,620 --> 01:05:10,980
he said he was gonna fight in February,

1813
01:05:10,980 --> 01:05:12,660
but he's a fucking liar.

1814
01:05:12,660 --> 01:05:15,180
Yeah, and I was gonna date Sydney Sweeney.

1815
01:05:15,180 --> 01:05:16,460
How's that going for me?

1816
01:05:17,540 --> 01:05:18,940
Well, I said that too.

1817
01:05:18,940 --> 01:05:20,100
Yeah, exactly.

1818
01:05:20,100 --> 01:05:20,940
How's that going?

1819
01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:22,740
I guess you stole my girl then, I guess.

1820
01:05:22,740 --> 01:05:23,580
No.

1821
01:05:23,580 --> 01:05:26,780
Oh, but-

1822
01:05:26,780 --> 01:05:28,180
Is it just-

1823
01:05:28,180 --> 01:05:30,020
Doesn't, apparently.

1824
01:05:30,020 --> 01:05:31,980
There's stuff going on, like the February,

1825
01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:35,380
like the 15th kinda sucks, yes.

1826
01:05:35,380 --> 01:05:36,220
Yes.

1827
01:05:36,220 --> 01:05:38,620
But like the 13th, if you wanna see,

1828
01:05:38,620 --> 01:05:41,860
like if nothing else, Joe Smith Jr.,

1829
01:05:41,860 --> 01:05:45,980
Devontae Williams should be entertaining a little bit,

1830
01:05:45,980 --> 01:05:47,140
at least a little bit.

1831
01:05:47,140 --> 01:05:50,020
But Mickey Scala, that is a fucking prospect

1832
01:05:50,020 --> 01:05:51,020
to keep your eye on.

1833
01:05:51,020 --> 01:05:53,500
If you're not on game, get the fuck on game,

1834
01:05:53,500 --> 01:05:56,940
because I'm telling you, Mickey Scala is solid.

1835
01:05:56,940 --> 01:05:59,900
The top-rank card on the 14th, excellent card.

1836
01:05:59,900 --> 01:06:01,860
Excellent, excellent card.

1837
01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:04,620
You get to see Muhammad Ali's grandson.

1838
01:06:04,620 --> 01:06:06,540
Are you shitting on my balls?

1839
01:06:06,540 --> 01:06:08,140
What else do you want?

1840
01:06:08,140 --> 01:06:08,980
What else do you want?

1841
01:06:08,980 --> 01:06:11,260
Wait, I see, I see where he has lost.

1842
01:06:11,260 --> 01:06:12,100
Yeah, he did.

1843
01:06:12,100 --> 01:06:12,940
He lied to me.

1844
01:06:12,940 --> 01:06:15,020
He ain't Muhammad Ali's grandson.

1845
01:06:15,020 --> 01:06:17,820
Muhammad Ali lost more than a fair few of his-

1846
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:20,140
Yeah, but he was the greatest though,

1847
01:06:20,140 --> 01:06:20,980
so he gets a pass.

1848
01:06:20,980 --> 01:06:22,340
Yeah, of course.

1849
01:06:22,340 --> 01:06:23,940
He was supposed to be,

1850
01:06:23,940 --> 01:06:26,300
apparently Jesus is next coming.

1851
01:06:26,300 --> 01:06:27,140
Next coming of Christ.

1852
01:06:27,140 --> 01:06:29,820
I would say the prophet Muhammad's next coming.

1853
01:06:30,780 --> 01:06:31,780
Muhammad's next coming?

1854
01:06:31,780 --> 01:06:33,740
He's a nation of Islam guy.

1855
01:06:33,740 --> 01:06:35,300
Peace be upon him.

1856
01:06:35,300 --> 01:06:36,140
Abdul Wahid?

1857
01:06:36,140 --> 01:06:40,540
His actual name.

1858
01:06:42,220 --> 01:06:43,300
That's enough.

1859
01:06:43,300 --> 01:06:44,500
That's it.

1860
01:06:44,500 --> 01:06:45,820
That's all we got on the cards.

1861
01:06:45,820 --> 01:06:47,420
Hold on a second, let me do...

1862
01:06:47,420 --> 01:06:49,940
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1863
01:06:49,940 --> 01:06:51,340
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1864
01:06:51,340 --> 01:06:52,700
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1865
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1874
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1877
01:07:17,620 --> 01:07:21,220
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1878
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1879
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1880
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01:07:28,260 --> 01:07:30,500
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1882
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:34,020
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1883
01:07:34,020 --> 01:07:37,100
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1884
01:07:37,100 --> 01:07:38,700
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1885
01:07:38,700 --> 01:07:40,940
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1886
01:07:40,940 --> 01:07:43,380
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1888
01:07:45,340 --> 01:07:47,580
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01:07:49,460 --> 01:07:51,180
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1891
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1892
01:07:55,580 --> 01:07:57,580
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1893
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1894
01:07:59,140 --> 01:08:01,460
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1895
01:08:01,460 --> 01:08:03,500
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1896
01:08:03,500 --> 01:08:05,620
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1897
01:08:06,740 --> 01:08:08,460
It didn't close the deal despite today?

1898
01:08:08,460 --> 01:08:11,500
She did, but because of the timing of it,

1899
01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:12,780
I didn't include it on this.

1900
01:08:12,780 --> 01:08:15,060
It'll be on the recaps the next time.

1901
01:08:15,060 --> 01:08:15,900
Okay.

1902
01:08:15,900 --> 01:08:19,340
So we're heading into not a great Saturday,

1903
01:08:19,340 --> 01:08:22,940
but we do have a good Prospect Thursday,

1904
01:08:22,940 --> 01:08:27,460
a solid, solid Valentine's Day fight card on Friday,

1905
01:08:27,460 --> 01:08:30,260
and then, you know, stuff on.

1906
01:08:30,260 --> 01:08:31,660
A Valentine's Day massacre.

1907
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:35,860
And then stuff on Saturday.

1908
01:08:35,860 --> 01:08:38,700
So parting words, what do we got?

1909
01:08:38,700 --> 01:08:39,820
Y'all know what I'm gonna say.

1910
01:08:39,820 --> 01:08:40,780
Yeah, go for it.

1911
01:08:40,780 --> 01:08:42,380
Let's go Virgil Ortiz.

1912
01:08:42,380 --> 01:08:44,460
Let's go Floyd Schofield.

1913
01:08:44,460 --> 01:08:46,660
Let's go Carlos Adames.

1914
01:08:46,660 --> 01:08:48,020
Oh, Carlos Adames.

1915
01:08:48,020 --> 01:08:49,740
I gotta add an Adames.

1916
01:08:49,740 --> 01:08:51,060
Damn.

1917
01:08:51,060 --> 01:08:54,020
I gotta add that in all the underdogs here.

1918
01:08:54,020 --> 01:08:57,380
Hey, hey, I love, I love the underdogs, man.

1919
01:08:57,380 --> 01:08:58,420
I love the underdogs.

1920
01:08:58,420 --> 01:08:59,580
You need to love the underdog.

1921
01:08:59,580 --> 01:09:01,740
That's the beautiful part about boxing.

1922
01:09:01,740 --> 01:09:02,980
The underdog can always win.

1923
01:09:02,980 --> 01:09:07,260
I'm quite fond of the B-sides.

1924
01:09:07,260 --> 01:09:08,780
Yeah, exactly.

1925
01:09:08,780 --> 01:09:10,220
Wow, perfect.

1926
01:09:10,220 --> 01:09:11,300
That's the perfect transition.

1927
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:12,140
Thank you.

1928
01:09:12,140 --> 01:09:12,980
Yeah.

1929
01:09:12,980 --> 01:09:13,820
And it's not totally because I have a weird obsession

1930
01:09:13,820 --> 01:09:15,700
with these fighters and these underdogs.

1931
01:09:15,700 --> 01:09:18,220
It's because it's a boxing B-sides podcast, that's why.

1932
01:09:18,220 --> 01:09:19,540
They're the boxing B-sides.

1933
01:09:19,540 --> 01:09:21,060
We gotta back the B-side.

1934
01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:22,020
We gotta back the B-sides

1935
01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:23,100
because we're also the B-sides.

1936
01:09:23,100 --> 01:09:24,740
Soon to be A-side.

1937
01:09:24,740 --> 01:09:25,900
We'll get there.

1938
01:09:25,900 --> 01:09:28,500
But I just wanna say that I love boxing, man.

1939
01:09:28,500 --> 01:09:29,860
Benefit is morale.

1940
01:09:29,860 --> 01:09:32,340
We delivered some crazy stuff.

1941
01:09:32,340 --> 01:09:33,740
This is why I love this sport.

1942
01:09:36,540 --> 01:09:38,500
All right, shit.

1943
01:09:38,500 --> 01:09:39,340
Cool.

1944
01:09:39,340 --> 01:09:40,700
We are outta here.

1945
01:09:40,700 --> 01:09:44,740
We'll see you on the other side of this bleakish weekend,

1946
01:09:44,740 --> 01:09:47,060
but it's a good run a few days.

1947
01:09:47,060 --> 01:09:48,300
We'll see you on the other side of it.

1948
01:09:48,300 --> 01:09:49,260
Love your listeners.

1949
01:09:49,260 --> 01:10:11,260
And I'll see you on the other side of it.