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B-side B-side B-side that B-side thing. This is the B-side's boxing podcast
All right
Man, oh man. Let's fucking do this thing boxing B-sides
Is this the worst boxing show you'll ever hear? Yes. Is it also the best boxing show you'll ever hear also? Yes, joined by
one of my fellow ultimate fucking casuals
Isaac and oh, there's a smell of somebody new in the room. Who would that be?
What's me? It's me. It's me Alex. Well, I see the story. Oh shit. You want to go by that?
I thought you're gonna go by Saul
No, no, no for this for this audience. I'll go by Alex. All right, cool Alex it is well
to the boxing B-sides, hopefully you get I
Should not have mentioned. I don't know if this was supposed to remain private, but she said that you
She noticed that you enjoy needling her about in a way. I
Enjoy you dealing about anyway, you yeah, like you enjoy like messing with her about him anyway. Yeah anyway, yeah in a way
I got it. No
Get out of you get out of town. No
Periodically like enjoy doing it, but I do
Can't deny it
You know, I started with throwing it on the anyway fact that he's he's amazing that man is I'm as amazing
Yeah, say that generational you can't even hate on over that. It's not
I've tried it. I tried
Anybody who was saying Fulton is not that good of a win needs to shut the fuck up very now
Now they gotta be quiet now. They gotta be quite. We can't talk about it, but now they gotta be quiet
All right. Let's get into some stuff here. Just top lines top feelings. Try not to get too much into the detail
How are you feeling about the David vs. David just the card in general?
Like for me it was like fucking statement made big time
For for Benevides, what do you guys think in well, I think first
I'm just gonna give like an audio cue to as to how I felt man. Hmm
Yeah, pretty much all I
Mmm, that is quite the feeling
Yeah, you know why you know, I felt you know, I felt with box last night
I'm not collided and you guys might agree with me my discreet that felt like an orgasm
And or guys I'm I'm joking seriously
My joke seriously, you know, or the answer is serious. Yeah, that's a really in the making an adjective
Years in the me that was it was I hadn't been that excited for a fight in years and it lived up to the hype
In my opinion absolutely did it greatly lift up tonight. It was a war
All the car all the fights on there. Yeah, amazing a lot of good stuff, but I'll have from Cormel the manavita's, you know
Yeah, definitely. We'll be talking a lot more about that one on the next one
That was just a little bit of a teaser when we get to it
So to give extend a hand over to the MMA side of the street
We have two things that I wanted to touch on on the 24th of January
1170 took place. It was the not to what Tao and Chi rematch for the Muay Thai title and holy shit
again statement made
Tao and Chi beat the
Out of not to what it was not even pretty not even a little bit. It was pretty Jesus. This is brutal
Muay Thai is fucking scary
So now yeah Muay Thai and brutal or synonymous. Yeah. Oh, yeah
but they go hand-in-hand
now speaking of brutal February 8th in
Sydney Australia UFC 312
Isaac is a is
Is DDP space gonna look the same as he did last time? I'm going with DDP by stoppage this time. I'm like, oh my
What what has your family? I don't know man. DDP's got this new confidence about me. He bit he beat out of Sonia
You know, he's been champ now. He's got a defense underneath his belt. I
Feel like he's got this confidence about him and he's gonna be able to get to get it done this time
But you know Sean, he's a very technical striker. So I mean I could absolutely be wrong. I've been wrong before
Okay, Alex you keep up with them
I
agree with everything everything that Isaac said well, I want to ask him is what do you think would be a good partly to put
down
You know, we've been wanting to talk about bets more
because I won't explain
It's sort of a mediocre card. I'm like, I know it's pay-per-view and all but it's it's not very good
It's pretty like light. It's it's rough. Oh shit. I forgot to make the fucking wangs out for Kong shirt
Oh that would be that I forgot about that
I'm actually very that's probably that might be the one I'm most excited seriously
Toporia's brother that should be interesting. Yeah, there's a few storylines, but like as far as pay-per-view goes, this is probably gonna be
Pretty low for the year. It's better be what do you think would be the what do you think would be fight of the night on that card?
Mmm, I think coming and
Wait, I mean has has a chance. Yeah, I think it'll turn
But wait, I don't know. It's hard to say it. There's not one that like super like stands out on the card
It's all go. This can be a barn burner. You know, I kind of disagree. I actually disagree with that
What do you guys wait man? I didn't have you win match with Justin tougher
I think that one could be see how you wait is so rough though cuz like I
Don't man like the
Level of skill at heavyweight. It's sort of rough
It's well, I thought yeah. Yeah, like on the on the previous fight night
I thought there was gonna be a good heavyweight fight, but it just turned into like a
Boring boring ass like dumpy big boxy match wrestling. Yeah. Yeah
exponential but that is quite the bold statement putting your hopes on Tafa either one of the top
That's bravery man. That takes courage. Hey, I gotta be honest. I gotta I gotta see my points, dude
Yeah, I gotta see my my bad taste
I speak your truth. I gotta see the truth
Let's get into some boxing recaps
Sure, we're gonna go back to January 19th through the week of the 19th to the 25th on the 23rd
Golden boy at the Commerce Casino in Commerce City, California. It's a very interesting
Name for the place Eric Priest in the main event
he gets to the UD over Tyler Howard like Eric Priest is one of their more they're better prospects and
that's a really gratuitous generous use of
Better or like good prospect there is this really starting to show some limitations. It's unfortunate
Moving on Friday, January 24th really quickly pro box in the at the pro box event center
Um, Najee Lopez TKO six over Gilbert
Castillo, so that's cool Stanley Wright verse guess the UD over Jeremiah Milton
This was a late replacement Stanley came in on like a week's notice. I think
It was it turned into dumpy heavyweights
American heavyweight scene is in the bin and the bin is higher dad
Super dire at some moment. Yeah, and it's being covered in oil right now, too
This is like this is as good as it gets for us right now
Oh, yeah
But yeah, Stanley Wright was okay is like all things considered. He went 10 rounds
He was pretty solid up into like the last few
And given that he hadn't had a lot of times for conditioning or anything. It was okay. He did. All right
So just want to give him his flowers for that. They gotta feed him tomorrow now
No, Jared Anderson is in desperate need of
Some he's can bad. Yeah, he needs a respectable can put in front of
What do you think would be a respectable respectable fighter for that man Stanley, right?
Stand the right you think Stanley, right? Yeah
He's coming off a decent ish win. So it's whatever like Jared Anderson the uh
Every time I stop talking about the
Jared Anderson the uh, I think every time I stop to think about him like man my
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined. Mm-hmm. You know
Years ago, I thought Jared Anderson was gonna be the next
jesus
Of heavyweight boxing. I thought I'm lying
I thought he was gonna be the next American heavyweight like the the big premier American heavyweight. I thought it was him
I didn't want it. I mean bad
Mm-hmm. Yeah, he wanted money way too bad. It's uh, he cashed himself out. Are we ever gonna see that down to about the fight?
with Jared Anderson
Yes, probably
No, no wilder has maybe one. He might already be retired. He has maybe one fight left in him
He has we say that every time we see that every time. Oh, yeah the blk prime. Yeah
Yeah, okay
What a fall from grace, huh? What a big fall from grace
Man, my f's in the chat can double double tap if you cry every single time you think about
I'll never forget when he got knocked out. I'll never forget that
I remember that feeling like it happened yesterday, man. It was sad. I was depressed. When were you when wilder was ko?
It's a it's an old copy pasta from uh, last thing
last thing for this one jordan roach younger brother of
Deadman walking lamont roach
Uh, yeah, so he gets a ud in his third fight. So congrats to him and that's that for friday
Yeah, you have a very secure career
Um, yeah, japan moving on. Oh right friday ohashi
In tokyo, oh baby. Um only really want to talk about two of them
Uh jinsasaki ud over shoki sakai
To retain his opdf. That's a child organization of the wbc
And wco asia-pacific welterweight titles
Uh jinsasaki is an interesting character. He gets hit a lot
He throws a lot of punches
they don't really seem to be doing all that much damage and
this
japanese style of
Entertainment first. I I don't know what it's gonna take for them to break it
They had a guy die already trying to do that
I don't know. I think are you are you a believer of jinsasaki? Uh,
Honestly, I feel like I'd have to talk sit down and talk with uh shunada about this
Because she knows way more about japanese boxing than I do definitely
I'm not too sure though, man. This is
This is one of the things he could get checked bad. Yeah at some point, but we're just gonna have to keep watching
tentative optimism
Alex you got any
jinsasaki truth
i'm gonna be honest. I I was about to say the same thing as I think because I I don't know too much about the
japanese
boxing scene
Besides in a way and nakatani
Oh
You're gonna get put on game coming up soon with the nakatani cause there's another excellent bansomweight on it
I will definitely watch that. Yeah
main event
Yejoon kim comes in on really short notice like two or three weeks
Uh to take on like the
One of the best fighters of the generation that like and he's active right now. Enjoy it people enjoy it while you can
Generation talent. Yeah, absolutely
Uh, yeah, yeah foot 100
kim
Did what?
He did the best he could you know limited time to train
uh, he threw
Everything but everything in the kitchen sink at in a way in a way is just too fucking good
But kim kim got himself out there. He got he showed grit tenacity courage
On a stage like that this I really hope to see more of him because that was impressive
Against fight like anyway. Oh, yeah, absolutely. I gotta get him as as much prophecy can
Yeah, also that's fine
Considered because like other guys go in there like with the just intent to survive as long as possible
Without ever really engaging whereas kim decided like fuck this. I'm gonna have to catch lightning in a bottle
If i'm gonna beat this guy
You want to talk about going out on your shield, bro kim went out and shield. Yeah
Oh, yeah, sure respect you're trying to get that win regardless
This he came to win he came fighting to win even if it like claws were stupid long. He still came to fight
You know, i'm gonna say a very controversial take I think
in my opinion kim
Give a better fight than what I think
Uh goodman would have given yeah, I agree. Yeah
Oh, yeah
This is a good man would be
I don't know trying to make himself look good with the I think with the idea i'm probably gonna lose
So I can't get embarrassed
Whereas I do yeah. Yeah, kid has nothing to lose. I could do on your own. Yeah
Uh, man, but
Ups to kim so what I hope to see more of him. I don't really give a shit who right now
Just keep them in front of the camera if anybody rates
Being plucked from the bleachers
And put into the spotlight. It's him
sir
Uh, right. So for in a way there is
Not a whole lot left for him to do
At 122 he could wait he could wait for what?
You know who?
you know who
do I
You know, you all know what i'm talking about. You all know i'm talking about casimiro
Oh, yeah, casimiro. Yeah. No, we're talking i'm talking about katani, man. Oh
Oh
Yeah, you're right. I just don't even consider that one when I think about what in a way could do and it's a blockbuster
You're absolutely right
Just he could very well wait. He could
Easily sell out the stadium in japan. Was it the same time arena?
ariake
recently
Yeah, like the massive. I mean the one he the one he normally fights at I mean he sells that regardless
Of who he's fighting, but he's japanese cano
Yeah, he really is like the japanese canelo basically like this
That's their guy
Yeah
Uh, I want to see this dude at 126. I'm i'm not gonna lie. I'll just put it out there
I want to see the one better fights are up at 126 and it starts to get interesting because that's when we're taking away
Uh, we're limiting him physically because he's smaller than a lot of those guys
Uh, he would be fighting closer to his regular weight. Yes
Yeah more natural for him
naturally if we want to talk about fire
In a way versus boss probably one of the best fights out there. Oh, yeah. Oh my lord. Yeah
That's why I feel nervous and one of those dangerous
Exactly. Do you think that's the most dangerous fight for him at 126?
Oh, yeah, shoot, man. I mean
All right
Yeah, if he is off the table, but
Maybe he could be hilarious stuff
Robizi maybe could fight Robizi first. He would knock Robizi out in six
But i'll tell you man, I can't talk about the other title holder
But I do not want to see that fight
No, I want to see I don't want to see either
I want to see anyway versus Nick ball. Absolutely fight. I want to see yeah if espinosa is moving up then that's the one
There that's all there is to me as well
That's got barnburner like
Ingrid to it. Oh, yeah
So let's pretend he's not moving up. He stays at one time too
Is I say it is is mj akumadali is that still a good fight?
Alex, do you think it is because I don't know if we've ever talked about this
I
Never liked that fight
No, I don't like that fight
I never liked that fight. No, I never liked that fight. Yeah, anyway, he's not the best with southpaws
Because mj is a southpaw, correct? Yeah, yeah, right. I used to get mj southpaw. Yes
I think so. Yeah, okay
Because from from what i've seen from from the work of mj
Like he he doesn't yeah, I don't think he would be anyway. I don't think he has a chance. No
I want to give him a chance. Oh, you wouldn't give him a chance
No, all right
He doesn't have the
The it factor
Yeah, the effect. Yeah
I mean, I i'm not sure if anyone in that division can really
Ass up at this point. No, he's cleaned it out. Anyway, it's over. Yeah, he's cleaned this one out
All that's left is mj. I think that's a good fight. The the southpaw factor is what I think
Really is what makes it interesting
Uh casimero
If uh, if you want to avenge
Uh the japanese honor for casimero being a piece of shit
Then uh, you can have him get his ass beat in front of the in front of the home crowd
Picasso and goodman
To me, those are like the same
They're they're both gonna get murked. I don't know why people want to see the cost fight. I don't either
I I really do understand it. I feel I feel bad for like people trying to push Picasso into that like
Already, he's still a young man. He has a future. Don't don't put his life at risk like this
Because that's feeding. Yeah
I've seen Picasso fight. I I think I watched him on the mangiya card. Yeah, it was a mangiya card, right?
I watched him in that. I was seeing the whole time like this is the guy they want
in a way to fight
Hell no
Hell no. No, I don't know. I see that. I think you're gonna get murdered
I think we we left that card and like leo and I were talking about I was like
Yeah, because I was gonna get murdered if he takes that fight. Yeah, it's a animal being sent to slaughter. That's oh, yeah
It's a cruel thing to do
It's giving you a kado t-rex
The only other two
Now nakatani you already mentioned it. That is an amazing fight
I don't know how the hell I forgot about it. But the other one that people just are sleeping on is Ten Shin Nozakawa
Despite him being like a his he is a major major douchebag
Absolutely, but you cannot deny the skills this yet. He has really transitioned from like karate kickboxing
to
To boxing and it's a fucking thing of beauty this he is super talented
I've never seen him fight actually you should I recommend he's really really good
Next time I saw him. I would say japanese lomachenko. That's that's a bold that's a bold statement. It's high praise
I know it's a high praise. I really think he does fit that bill though
I think he's the one who fought Mayweather. Yes, and he was like 16 at the time
So Mayweather was almost like 40 something
And then he beats up a teenage boy like good one
That's really it like for in a way that's it um
If you're not gonna fight MJ if you're not gonna fight casimiro
Like do not waste your time with fucking goodman and picasso. Don't just don't do that
Otherwise, it's nakatani intention. Both of those are huge
money fights in japan
Undoubtedly
Nakatani would fucking break records of it. I'll tell you that I think so, too
I think they should do out of catchweight though
in my opinion
It's not that big of a move and nakatani is his like he's physically bigger
Than in a way
So it wouldn't be that unnatural for him to jump up
but I
See the things I agree with you. It's just that typically from what i've seen is that when when the smaller guy comes up
That they kind of a lot of the time they have less more of a disadvantage
Versus a guy that's already been at a higher weight class
Yeah, I see. You know, I mean, that's what I would rather have it at a catchweight, but that's my opinion
Uh, if he moves up
Bruce karrington, no
That that whatever whoever made that joke up needs to stop
Yeah, the shushu hype has seriously been damaged like uh, yeah, it's not the same as it used to be no definitely not
He doesn't you know enjoy smelling his own farts or anything like the way some do like
It's
All right, well
We'll see how much of that makes the public release
Uh, let's move into saturday january 25th
We have two that I want to cover
just quickly
first in noddingham
in england matrim card dalton smith
just murders
while lead weezer
The way shanada put this one was dalton smith is like if england was a person
And if france was a person
Waleed is french
He is france and then dalton smith just
man
I would i've expected. I don't know why I expected better from a frenchman, but I did
Napoleon I guess is that like uh that brunello
Brunello, yeah, oh my god the frenchman to do it again. Yeah
I can't even classify this as a steamer. This is way worse. No, it wasn't that would imply that while he tried
Because he he fucking did it. He did it. He did it. Not at all didn't even try. Um, it's like
Showed up to the same resistance as like single ply tp
Oh my
I see now I understand exactly what you mean. Yeah, I don't know
I don't know how I got that immediately. But yeah, that's that's the perfect way to put it
I I love that comparison. I'm leaving i'm leaving while lead on that fucking single ply ass
A single ply motherfucker. Yeah. All right zanfer
In uh san luis potosi in mexico. There's a bunch of shit on here. Only one I really watched was uh, misail
Rodriguez gets the ud over omar chavez
is uh
This was one of like the the fighting chavez brothers
So sons of the legend himself
it
Not very the other ones. Are you hanging out with uh, junior?
Because you're starting to act like them
I don't like it
Yeah, that's not close to the tree no, i'm just not not one either
Um, yeah, not one of the fighting fucking chavez bros
is
Like anything like their father
Yeah
Um, but I think that might be a little bit more time than they deserve any than that car deserves
I know
all right, so
matchroom
At the chelsea ballroom in las vegas
I'm gonna go from the bottom up
And I have reordered these not to running order
But to order of how little I care going all the way up. That's okay. That's the best facts
So harley medeiros ko3 over arturo de isla the ilia
I don't do does he get the s the isla
I think is ila ila. I think so. Yeah, you're probably right
uh zackie moses
stops
alex
palette payete, I think it's palette uh in the first
leonardo ruval
You don't have to change your name yet
But you should definitely start thinking about a different one
If that's how you're gonna be performing
Yeah, oh, yeah, you you don't get to fucking be a scrub and share a name with me
Uh, the king yeah, nishat dev. This is a an indian
olympian
He's this is his pro debut. He stops elton wiggins in the first
uh, it was fine
I guess
It's too early to tell first round stoppages don't typically can't draw too much from that
at least in my opinion, but
Yeah
What is your name?
You guys overlapped I didn't catch either. Oh, sorry. I think you go first
I was just saying the memes have been tremendous for nishant that
The line in the box. Oh, yeah
Is he's about india taking over? Yeah, the indian takeover. This is the beginning
It's the indian century
Yeah, that's what they're saying now. It's gonna be an arms race between india and china
And uh getting their getting their people out into combat sports. Oh, what is it? What is it? What is it?
What is the ending I trade out of?
Good question
Let's look
I'm curious woodland california
Oh, is that robert garcia? I don't think so. I think it's what's the question? Uh, ernesto mercado retires. I hopefully hopefully
Retires jose pedraza and stops him in the fourth
Uh, it's time to hang it up buddy
That actually made me laugh what?
Well retires hopefully retires. Hopefully he retires the man
Uh, yeah, it's time. It's his past time. Yeah, you had a great run
Um, you ushered in the the reign of tank davis
Uh, and
And people like to pretend like they try to use hindsight to say that it wasn't that good of a win because of what pedraza is now
But at the time I remember very distinctly a lot of people saying like this might be too much for tank
At this stage of his career. This might be too much
Pedraza is really good
And he was
And tank's just you know, incredible
Better yeah, yeah, he's just better. That's
Gonna be ashamed of really
It was a good fight, too. It was all right while it lasted. Oh the tank tank pedraza. Yes
It was good while it lasted. Yeah for sure. Yeah
uh
man
I will never forget he comes out wearing like dinosaur trunks
and then people were like why the fuck do you have a t-rex and like
a raptor
We go. Well, my kids designed my trunks for me. So
That's pretty cool. Yeah
man sad times
Uh pedraza and i are about the same age
Well, you know you want to want to get into podcasting?
Let me know I got you buddy
Bring him bring him into the into the podcast. Yeah, i'll bring him into the lux media family
The real b-side right there
No, I yeah, that's that's a little too on the nose
Uh, all right co-main event
Improved andy cruz beats omar salsido in just it was a 10 rounder for the ibf international 135
uh
andy cruz
Uh getting it done
I don't know how how old is he?
I believe he's like 20 20 something. It's 29. It's a cuban 29
Uh, probably like 30. It's like about 21. Yeah. Yeah
Yeah
as um
I'll tell you with something by any cruise. He I think he's got a bright future ahead of us. Absolutely. I agree with you
He in my opinion I in that fight he didn't show me that he had power
But he had phenomenal skills. That's always what we've known about him though. Just being the amateur standout that he was
And in all of his fights, he's shown the skills
I think it's like the the wrinkles that make the pro game different
From the amateurs
Are the parts that we're not seeing yet. It's starting to come out
But yeah, it's he's starting to break out of it
That was it's a pretty like big transition like the amateurs are nothing like like no not at all. Oh and like
Yeah, I don't know like he
He has like like you said he has potential but he's still in sort of that gray area at the moment
Like we're really not too sure if he'll be a success or not because like a lot of pros end up falling short
Or a lot of amateurs in a short
tailgulls time
Yeah
We'll see
He looked good though. I was yeah, he did. He's still looking. All right, uh, I
Upside still there
I hope he does fight keeshawn davis again because he's eaten him four times in the amateurs
And he keeps calling it out for keeshawn davis and
Yeah, that's
That's something I don't know about that in the pros. I'm not too sure about that maybe yeah
I'm not so sure but still if you can do it again
That's something
That that would be a massive win, but I I would heavily favor keeshawn
Oh, yeah, me too. He's out of money on that. Yeah, he's transitioned to the pros a lot better
Yeah
And keeshawn dude, it's the power that that man has oh my god. It's a 135. Yeah, it's phenomenal
Especially I was the
I would say a rival's tank
Rivals tank that is quite
It might is rival tanks power
I think if tank would have fought keeshawn right now keeshawn would probably be
laid out on the ground, but
Oh, yeah
That would be that would be a massive fight to make that would be a fun fight to make that would be fun
Yeah, but I think would definitely oh that's a dmv fight too dmv man. Maybe it's a dmv one
I think what I think he's at virginia beach is where keeshawn's from or like norfolk or something. I think it was norfolk
Yeah, I think yeah, you're right
Yeah, I think it's more fuck yeah, look at this boxer picture oh my god
He shines yeah, uh main event
Diego pacheco ud over stephen nelson, uh, stephen m bison nelson
Bison I like that. I love that. That was a really cool
Get up that he had the usbc and wbo international super middleweight titles on the line
Diego gets it done
Uh, it was pretty competitive for what like it was in a tale of two halves
Was it a tale of two halves where nelson was pretty competitive and then he started like gassing a little bit and pacheco came on
Pacheco took over. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, i'm seeing a lot of hyperbole about this people saying like but pacheco
fraud check and
This type of shit like the he's like 23 years old 22 years old
So young yeah, dude slow it the fuck down because he's doing fine
Stephen nelson was a big step up and he did really well
Mm-hmm. So I don't know nelson trains like regularly with with bud. Yeah, and he's got bone mac as well
Which oh my the best boxing that's like a cheat code in your corner. Yeah
I mean, yeah
That's the big reason why I went so long. I think so. Yeah, I mean they were expecting but check out to like get a ko but
Me too. I mean nelson is nelson is just
I mean it was a big step up like you said y'all must have
You guys was I expecting a ko? No. Yeah, y'all must have forgot steven nelson trains with bone mac and terrence crofford
and she
He knows what he's doing
You think uh bud is sparring with uh, nelson. Yeah, they said he went for that. Yeah
No, yeah, well you went for canelo. Oh not for canelo but for
Terrence crofford like was playing the pacheco role to spar with nelson. Okay, I see
I mean i'm gonna be honest about pacheco like I think
I like the kid but let me tell you this is that he has a lot to learn
He has a lot to learn. I know you were saying that that yeah, it's too he's still young
But right now is the prime time to learn your mistakes and fix them or else you end up like them in haiti
He has been making he has been making some adjustments though, like he has
He wasn't getting better
Yeah, I was just about to say that like a few fights ago his defense like pretty shoddy, but
It's it's starting to improve like I mean it's starting to like improve in different areas in his game
I really want to see him work on his footwork though
I really want to see that because he would be
Movement footwork if he had a killer if he had like great footwork with a good jab, he would be a killer
In my opinion it seems like it seems like he responds well to coaching
As well. Yeah, he does
And this is a testament like something that we saw, you know
In the card just recently, but the benavides senior camp is getting pretty solid
Yeah, yeah, they don't have a lot of names, but the names they do have are really good
I'll tell you this man
Call me here to do coming here. I don't care for hosie benavides seniors
way of training what about it do you not like
I feel like he just doesn't really focus on
He folk I think he focuses too much on the offense aspect
More so than the than the defense aspect of a fighter
Well, you know what robber garcia where he trains he makes sure that you have every you're very balanced
You know what I mean? Yeah, you can see what robber garcia is trainers whenever a fighter goes to robber garcia. They come out very balanced
Versus hosie benavides senior they they just
They're very rugged. They're very very rugged
There was someone really good
They're very very rugged there was someone recently like there was some drama going on in that camp with someone that left, you know
Who was somebody? No Robert?
Yeah, like I was there I think it was even like a lawsuit something like that
That would be news to me
But there's also I mean, I never I remember there was some drama regarding an exit from the camp
I don't remember. I don't remember that. I actually don't know that i've heard about that once
I haven't heard about that either. It wouldn't surprise me though because benavides seniors. I think uh,
Alex you had it right. He's in his own ways
uh
My my style of coaching
Is the only style that's acceptable here. I'm not oh, yeah
I'm not going to adapt to your physical attributes or the like your preferred fighting style. You're going to do what I tell you to do
It can I say? Oh, yeah
What's up?
Okay, sorry. Can I mention nothing too? I learned my whole day benavides senior sure
That he he learned boxing. I believe it was from dvds how to train
And that's how he taught his kids
That's why I learned I just find that crazy
Yeah, that's I I find it interesting. Okay, two very successful boys. Uh, jose jr
Was an like an amateur standout himself before and he was doing he was an incredible pro before the like the gunshot
situation
Yeah, we got shot and david yeah
Yeah, david is david is david
Yeah
I mean, yeah, they were stars
But I the fact that jose benavides senior was able to create stars
out of a dvd
They were so yeah, there were some damn good dvds bomac primate or something dude
Oh bomac dvds. Oh, I just it was uh valenzuela
Really?
And he went that's right. He was right. That's right. You're right. That's what he beat people after he he went to robert
That's right. And there was like some drama regarding that exit
I remember no isaac. Actually, I do remember that I remember that now too. Yeah
Yeah
to that yeah that so
It's perfect because the way you see the way that ryo fought when he was with holy benavides senior or is how he fought with
Robert night and day night and day. Yeah, his fight against pitbull was sort of a massive. Oh, I was
like
I um, you know forgive the to reuse the orgasmic one
Like I like when I was watching that it was like fucking like creaming myself like my boxing boner was it was really going off
That was an amazing performance
Unbelievable. I had robert. I had robert garcia written all over it. Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely a robert garcia master class right there
And i'll tell you this man. I'm gonna be honest. I was I was going for pitbull
I had people winning the fight. Yeah, same like like before watching the fight. I I was like people's gonna take sky out
You gotta take him out
But then call me the buck
Because I fucking knew I knew it the whole time
Uh, I was high on the pitbull supply I was high on the pitbull supply michael i it's yeah
That's something to be high on because he's we were writing up that really absolutely. Yeah
Yeah
The rolly. Yeah, that was the rolly win, man. It's really when it did me in so let's get to
Before we get to pacheco's next options steven nelson
I don't like I don't want to see people writing him off. This was a solid performance
He's like almost 40 himself. I uh, pun very much intended. He was in the army
So he has that dog in him. He is just how it goes
I would like to devil dog is that's us. Um army is just like they're just dogs
Not uh, maybe angel dogs. Would that be better?
Uh, what would be next? What could be next for
steven nelson, um besides excellent more excellent walkout or tire heimann
Is he you first?
Yeah, mungia is a good fight
Mungia has got to take care of bruno first. He does because every
You're happening, but that could be a good fight. Yeah
You know, I should be somewhat difficult for mungia too. It would be
You know, I I disagree. I think I think steven nelson is a good fighter
plant first plant plant plant that's a higher level than uh mungia yeah, uh
I think that the way that that
Because the way that pacheco fought
steven nelson near the end was
Kind of how I remind me how if i'm mungia would fight. Does that make sense or no?
Yeah, wait the way that say it again say it again. I'm trying to wait a little because it could
Say it again, say it again.
I'm trying to say it again.
The way Pacheco fought, because out of, you guys remember the fight where Pacheco kind
of evolved during the fight?
Yes.
We kind of switched his strategy.
Near the end he was fighting a lot more like Mugiya.
It reminded me of Mugiya.
Did that, is that, remind you guys of Mugiya or not?
In the latter half.
I would say yes.
In the latter half?
Yeah, in the latter half, yeah.
I just think you really- I mean at this point I feel like Pacheco is probably more defensively
responsible than Mugiya.
He is.
Like, Pacheco's defense is probably, I think he's a good bit better than Mugiya's.
Like Mugiya's defense is very suspect.
I agree.
Mugiya's been playing Noso now, isn't he?
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
We're gonna have to see what Mugiya looks like because, I mean, that loss was bad, don't
get me wrong.
Horrible.
It was a fluke.
It absolutely was a fluke.
He was winning the fight the entire time.
Yeah, he was dominating by a lot.
He was looking past the fight.
Yeah he was.
It's also a legit win for Bruno just because, I mean, Mugiya was fighting with his hands
down.
I mean, that happened multiple times throughout the fight.
But I don't know, for Nelson, I don't know if you can give him another big name like
that.
I mean, definitely someone like, towards the top, but I'd definitely say lower than plant.
Let's say Mugiya wins the rematch with Brunello.
Brunello versus Steve and Nelson.
Yeah, then I would agree.
That's a good level.
Two names coming off L's, but they want to fight to remain relevant.
That would be good.
I think we could see some really good fights at Super Middleweight.
Yeah, we got two good players in the mix.
Just basically, if there was like the...
Two names.
Yeah, even if it was just fluke wins, it's still something.
Yeah.
168 is heating up, but the only thing that's holding 168 back is, you know who?
Yeah, Canelo.
You know who?
Canelo.
It's a shit or get off the pot.
What are you doing?
Exactly.
Take the fights or fuck the belts off?
That's really killing a lot of the hype for a lot of the fighters there because he's fighting
them pretty early in the career, you know?
Yeah.
And he's really killing the hype.
Like, he fought fucking Berlanga.
I mean, yeah, Berlanga, don't get me wrong, he's not a world class fighter, but man, he
could have had a couple more fights before Canelo.
The fight could have been an even bigger fight, you know?
Yeah.
And the biggest fight for Berlanga was Plant.
I'm pretty scared that Canelo is going to end up fighting Skull.
I get like, I'm just beat it back for the Budfight.
He's fighting somebody before...
He's fighting in May before the Budfight.
It's probably going to be Skull.
They're saying it's an undefeated fighter.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying, I'm really worried about that.
Skull is like, bro, Canelo's going to beat Skull back.
Skull or Imbili?
You can't count that double under speed.
You cannot count that.
No, that's not double.
No.
We cannot count that.
With him fighting Imbili, the thing is that if he fights Imbili, yeah, it's an up and
coming contender, but the thing is he doesn't really get anything out of it.
Whereas Skull, it's kind of the same.
It's not the same as fighting Imbili, but he gets title out of it, his old title back.
You know what I mean?
That's why I think he's going to do it, but that'd be...
Yeah, I agree.
...indefensible.
I don't want to see Canelo fighting Imbili right now.
It would be a fun fight, but I really don't want to see that.
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, that makes sense.
No, that's not...
He's not double undisputed if he beats Skull.
No, fuck no.
It doesn't count.
Like if Usyk beats Dubois, that to me is not double undisputed either.
Yeah, he just maintains his title for like 30-40 months.
You're taking back what was already yours.
You know what would become three times undisputed?
Like if he becomes three times undisputed out of fucking at the same weight class, that's
stupid.
It is.
Redonchilous.
Pacheco, now he's got options too.
I think we went through a lot of them.
In the context of Nelson, though, how are we feeling with Pacheco against the likes of
Imbili?
I think Imbili is a good fight.
Would really test Pacheco's... if he's really defensively responsible, if he's really learned
some lessons, Imbili will test that.
I would say Imbili, Mondia, or Langa.
Those are perfect.
That's a very good list.
No notes.
That's it.
Any of those three is perfect.
Perfect for him at this point.
Is John Ryder still in the mix?
No, he retired after the Mondia loss.
Okay, because I heard some of that he was actually coming back.
But maybe that was some British...
Typical of boxing boxers to retire then unretire.
Yeah.
Speaking of unretiring, do you think Tyson Fury is going to unretire?
Probably.
It's just a negotiation tactic.
Yeah.
That fight is way too much money involved.
Off the table.
You remember that guy that Mondia fought?
Bazinian?
Yeah, Eric.
Yeah, Eric Bazinian.
That could be a good one for Pacheco.
I think that's a step down.
Yeah.
I think it's a step down.
I mean, I think we got to do the Mondia, the Brazilian, the Pacheco, the Pacheco, the
Pacheco, the Pacheco, the Pacheco, the Berlango, the Bale.
The B to A level fighters, I think, in what Pacheco deserves now.
The top of the B's, bottom of the A's.
Yeah.
To test them out.
I just wanted to shout out Bazinian and Bechtemir.
We're against Mondia.
I got a weird feeling that Diego Pacheco is actually gonna fight Canelo.
Yeah, for the third Saudi fight.
I got a weird feeling about it, dude.
That would be a snipe on Canelo's part.
Beat him early so that when he, when, not if, when he glows up
and turns into like a pretty big star, you can say like forevermore,
I beat his ass.
Yeah.
But the thing is, I don't know why he's get that feeling that they're
gonna feed him some, some random, some random guy, you know, I mean,
not, not in fucking V-Bowl 2.
It's gonna be some V-Low fighter.
Someone who doesn't rate.
Yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie.
I think Bud is probably highest opposition that Canelo is gonna go for
in the latter half of his career.
Yeah.
I think I'm sure of it.
Like the V-Bowl fight just like genuinely ruined him.
Oh, yeah.
That was sad.
It was.
If I remember like yesterday, man, I was, I was crying that night.
I almost cried.
Well, anything more for the Chelsea Ballroom, Matchroom, Diego Pacheco,
Steven Nelson.
Overall, great fight.
Yeah.
The atmosphere is good, by the way.
It was.
Chelsea Ballroom is kind of small too.
So like the people that are there really want to be there.
Oh, yeah, they were boxing, but they were like cheering for every, every hit.
For everything.
Yeah, they're those are like the hardcore fans that are going.
Yeah, you would never get that Riyadh or Kingdom Arena.
I would never Kingdom Arena.
The venue that the season venue for Riyadh.
Yeah.
Fucking dead. I hate it.
They make it rain journalist bones throughout the entire thing.
I wish they would do more of it in the United States.
You know what I mean?
Like the fact that they put they hosted a match with Crawford in LA.
I mean, it was cool as a person that lives in California.
It's cool.
But the problem is that when was the last time they held a big fight in LA that was
well known.
Oh, like a blockbuster type of thing.
A blockbuster type of fight.
Been a while.
It's been a long time.
Been a long time.
They should have hosted that fight in like in Las Vegas.
Yeah, where the fights usually go.
Mm hmm.
T-Mobile.
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All right, let's get into some previews here, because there's a few coming up on Thursday.
I meant to put brackets on this one, because I don't really know a whole lot about these guys.
I have the Tiger in Montreal.
It's going to be on ESPN, so...
It's fights on Thursday.
Rough night.
Jalalov is like the only one.
Yeah, that's the only one I was going to bring up was Bakudir Jalalov, the heavyweight amateur standout.
He's finally fighting again.
That's about all I got.
David Spielmont, 16-8-1.
Not great, not terrible.
That's actually, yeah, that's actually pretty bad, 16-8-1.
You're trying to be nice, Leo, you gotta stop.
Yeah, I tried.
That's pretty rough.
But Jalalov's been out for a while, so it makes sense, I guess.
It's doable for now.
Yeah, it'll pass.
Friday on the 7th, GBM Sports.
This is like a rinky-dink sort of promotion, but I'm only mentioning it because this is for the EBU light heavyweight title.
So whoever wins this one, chances are it's going to be the house fighter, but you're going to be seeing them climbing into contention pretty soon.
So keep your eye out.
It's going to be Daniel Blenda Dos Santos.
He's the GBM guy and Shaqan Peters is alright.
He's a good opponent.
That's going to be in the UK.
I don't even know where to watch this one, to be honest with you.
This is just one of those to keep watching headlines for it.
And Saturday on the 8th, quickly first, we're going to do the Pro Bucks card in San Antonio.
Fucking San Tone.
There's a lot of fucking stuff on here and I don't know a whole lot about it.
I don't know who these people are.
I know Shavkat Rakhmov.
He's higher up the bill.
That's about all I got.
Lester Martinez and Joshan James.
They've been on the Pro Box circuit for a minute.
Ramon Cardenas and Brian Acosta.
Same.
So like there's these are good fights.
Even if you don't know, you don't have to know who they are.
These are still competitive fights.
That's what Pro Box does.
Yeah, the beauty of Pro Box.
That's the beauty of Pro Box.
They put on the good stuff.
You want competitive fights, some pretty like entertaining knockouts and just absolute dump trucks.
You want to watch Pro Box.
It's just that's just how it is.
But the main event that's happening on the 8th, this one's going to be around midday on the West Coast of the US.
And there's not a whole lot on here that I want to talk about besides the main event unless you guys have something.
Other than the only other name I recognize is Willie Hutchinson.
Yeah, Willie.
Let's go Willie Hutchinson.
Yeah, I know Willie Hutchinson.
He's fighting Zach Parker.
I know those two.
This is WBC Silver Super Middleweight title.
So that's expect to see these guys climbing into contention for whenever it is that a Saudi Nero Alvarez decides to fuck up.
But Derek Chazoura, they're calling this the last ride.
This might be his last fight.
He's fighting Otto Wallin.
That's a pretty solid fight to take on your way out the door.
AJ's kids.
This is going to be a double.
This is like the fifth time it's been the last ride.
Yeah, in the last few years because he keeps winning and he's not supposed to.
They want to go until he loses.
That's that's all it is.
Yeah, they want to milk him.
Well, yeah, he keeps winning.
He's a fan favorite.
Yeah, he is a lot of British fans from what I see.
I just should not have a lot of people respect him because he's always thinking these fights like he's not he's spending his time fighting like pure cans.
He fights.
Yeah, whoever you put in front of him.
Yeah, doesn't matter.
As long as you pay him, he's there.
You just gotta pay him, but he's be there.
Respectful.
Shannada, I think for we had a lot of fun with the Joe Joyce upset.
So I'm pretty sure that she'll do that.
That was outrageous.
But yeah, slow.
Am I right?
Yeah, slow.
That was insane.
Yeah, hopefully he does.
I don't the same way.
Yeah, I hope so.
That won't be the last fight.
It won't be the last ride.
God damn it.
Derek, I'll say if he wins this one too, like he's got to get like at least a semi decent or decently like big fight.
Beyonce Wilder.
Oh, bro, I'll be serious when I say he might be he might be wilder at this stage of his career.
He might beat wilder.
That's not even controversial.
My that's not controversial at all.
Yeah, I agree.
It upsets me because the fucking Brits are going to have a dub.
Yeah, they're going to rejoice with that way.
I would the boys are back in town.
Yeah, I'm going to throw myself off of my roof.
It's okay though.
Usyk took care of them.
Take care of us.
Yeah, it was a UK heavyweight boxing.
He yeah, he was it was the people's champ.
He was for everyone.
That's it.
That's it for the for the previews.
It's a light weekend coming up, but it's all good because UFC 312.
I think that the timing the Queensbury cards are going to be about the same time.
So yeah, that's going to be a little rough little rough weekend until Papa comes home.
All right.
One more time.
I'm sort of looking forward to the just worth it.
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I can take a leave.
Now we're heading into the last ride question mark weekend.
Parting words.
What do you got?
I'll let Alex go first.
No, it's my first time actually ever doing this podcast.
What do I say?
Whatever you want.
It can be anything.
Let's go Virgil.
Come on baby.
Let's go Virgil.
I'm going to see this every podcast then.
Let's go Virgil.
Let's go Floyd Schofield.
Oh my God.
I had to bring him up.
I would give.
I'm going to send him like flowers or something.
It's like a flower.
I'm going to send him flowers.
I'm going to send him like flowers or something if he wins.
You know what?
You should give me mod.
If he wins, you need to give me mod.
You need to give me mod.
If he wins, there's multiple people that have to apologize to you.
No, no.
They got to suck my pee pee for that shit.
I'm one of them that has to apologize to you.
If Schofield somehow manages to.
I think one of the biggest upsets in boxing in a long time.
Yeah.
A long time.
Since Munguia.
No, no.
I was like, he brought.
What's going on?
Schofield is still at prospect level.
Yeah.
Yeah, he is.
The thing is, I, okay, look, don't get me wrong.
I think Shakur is going to win, but I'm rooting for Schofield.
I'm rooting for KK.
I really do not.
I mean, I love Shakur's skill, but just to watch him, it's just hard.
It's just hard to watch him sometimes.
Sometimes.
The last time he was entertaining was the Yoshino fight.
Yeah.
That was a while ago, man.
He's.
I can tell this.
Yeah.
He wasn't afraid.
He wasn't worried about the power coming back at him.
The thing is that Shaker's at a new weight class, 135.
I mean, it makes sense why he doesn't want to mix it up, but that makes people not want
to watch him.
I'm just going to say it's big ups for Del Boy.
We need a big win from Chisora.
Let's fucking get it, Derek.
I'm hoping he can pull it off.
We need it.
The boxing community needs it.
The dude in Discord, Keegan, he's Swedish as well.
So that would be fun to just get to dunk on him for a little bit.
That'd be funny.
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That's not a good idea.
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