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The B-side and boxing.

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B-side shit.

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B-side.

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B-side.

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And the B-side.

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You gotta B-side.

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The B-side.

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B-side.

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B-side.

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B-side.

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That B-side thing.

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This is the B-Sides boxing podcast.

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Time to fucking boogie.

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Boxing B-sides.

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Does the B in B-side stand for boogie?

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The boogie sides?

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Drip not on the boogie sides?

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I think that's a good one.

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Maybe not.

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Nice.

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Are we back in the 80s?

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Yes.

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70s.

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We're trying to get those disco balls.

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Louis in the news.

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Man, we're here to talk a whole lot of boxing.

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We're going to get ourselves back onto our old rhythm here.

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So let's get right into the fucking deal,

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because we got a lot.

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For now, Conor Ben is cleared to fight in the UK again.

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Just thought I'd tell him.

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You know, I was thinking about it.

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What if Conor Ben had been banished from the UK,

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was fighting and living probably, and fighting in the US,

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and then people were bitching about egg prices,

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and now Conor Ben is leaving, are egg prices going to go down?

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Less demand, the supply will be able to cover it now.

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Yeah, now that Ben's not here.

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Somebody did the math, he had to be eating like 30 eggs a day or whatever.

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Not unfeasible, but that's also like kind of dumb.

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Fucking gross.

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Yeah, he would be massive if he was eating 30 eggs a day.

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30 eggs and his cholesterol.

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He would smell bad.

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Oh, egg farts, bros.

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Yep, so Conor Ben cleared to compete again in the UK.

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So like good riddance.

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Good thing you're going back.

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I guess.

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Listen, man, he's exciting.

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Yeah, I guess.

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He's just down to scrap and bang, like no real technique or anything,

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just power and throwing punches.

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He's an exciting guy to watch.

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I think I'll admit that.

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Yeah, for sure.

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It's just like being matched with the right competition.

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It's usually not great.

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That's where he shines the most.

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I feel like boxing.

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He's exciting for boxing.

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I'll say that, like as much as he sucks and as annoying as he is,

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you just need that one guy who just is down to stand there

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and throw punches with power and hope for the best.

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Yeah, I would like him a lot more if he wasn't such an ass outside of the ring.

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Yeah, I mean, he is kind of a douchebag.

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Yeah, that's always that's really the only problem with it is, yes,

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you're right, like that type of figure, the in-ring performance type,

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even if it's not super high quality, nonetheless, it's entertaining and exciting.

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It seems to me that he thinks he's gotten to where he is strictly on his own merits.

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And that's absolutely not the case.

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That's why I don't like him.

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Fucking douchebag riding his father's coattails.

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He's such a nepo baby.

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Yeah, like dudes that are like one that comes to mind that fits this motif very well

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is a while ago, Ruslan Provodnikov.

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He was a guy that did not give a shit about anything but punishing you.

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That was it. That's all he wanted to do.

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And it was great. He's a fan favorite.

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Everybody loved him.

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He was a little bit of a character out of the ring, but it wasn't, I don't know, of arrogance.

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He's still a little eccentric.

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So, I don't know, there's, I guess, different types.

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Yeah, and sometimes you just don't like people because you don't like people.

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Speaking of unlikable people, let's move into some recaps here.

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Friday, November 15th.

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That's how far back we're going for this one.

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This was the Jake Paul Mike Tyson card in Dallas, Texas.

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Yes, let's just kick it off here.

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This one, I don't recall much, Niraj Goyat, UD over Winterson Nunes.

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I remember it being super boring and Niraj being, I don't know, really showy,

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even though he wasn't really doing anything.

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Yeah, showboating for no reason.

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Right. And apparently he has like a lot.

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I think he's getting into seven digits of a social media following in India.

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So I guess congrats on that.

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I don't know, maybe if you're going to box, try being good at it.

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Just a suggestion. Yeah.

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Moving up, Bruce Carrington, UD over Dana Coolwell.

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This was an eight rounder and I was a little bit disappointed with Bruce Carrington's performance.

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Given what we have, what I've come to expect of him,

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I admit that my expectations are built a little bit on like media hype.

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But he did seem to have the goods, right?

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There was substance to all of the shit that people were saying about him.

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But this one, like question mark, who the fuck is Dana Coolwell?

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You're going down to an eight rounder.

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You say because you want to be on the Tyson card because you're from the same part of Brooklyn that he is.

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Very cool story. But this is not the type of shit you should be taking to decision.

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Just my thoughts. Anyone else?

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I agree. Yeah, it was disappointing for the hype around Bruce Carrington.

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Yeah, I want to I don't want to be too hard on him for it.

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It could be jitters. It's very possible.

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This is the biggest card he's ever been on.

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Got to give him a one time pass. Sure. Yeah.

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You have enough night. It happens. It fucking happens to everyone.

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So it's fine. Not well.

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We'll see how you how you carry on from here.

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Well, and he did win. Right. Like convincingly, it's not like it was close.

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It was just I was expecting this is the type of shit you should be.

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Yeah, you should be ending this early.

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It's really what it was. Mm hmm.

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This one, I can't recall Shadasha Green split decision over Melinda Wattpool.

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Yeah, I don't remember anything about this.

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I can't recall that at all.

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What's that Lucas body majority decision over Armando Casamonica

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coming off of that Ashton Silve knockout, that like scary one where it's weird.

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I think that this was it expanded on what was happening in the Silve fight,

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which was he was losing until he won.

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And it seems like that Armando was able to kind of replicate

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that success a little bit that Ashton was having without getting caught,

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you know, overextending.

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And Lucas doesn't get I don't think he gets a pass for this one.

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The writing is on the wall, in my opinion.

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It's been written on there, but he's plateauing of it.

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I think so. Or showing his limitations.

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And they seem pretty steep.

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It's not something I think he's going to overcome very, very easily.

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I have to admit, I don't remember this one much either.

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It's been a while.

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There's somebody in Discord that just loves Lucas body.

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And I don't know why.

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I did.

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That's odd person to be a fan of.

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Yeah. I mean, we all have our odd fixations.

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I have. I get it.

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I get it.

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I'm a Nick Ball fan.

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Well, Nick Ball's crossed into the mainstream, I would say.

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I was Nick Ball fan before that.

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You remember you were you were all there.

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You were all there. We were.

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We have the seats.

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We have the receipts in the fucking the tapes.

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You were there before. It was cool to like Nick Ball.

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Man, after the little roundup we did,

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we stayed back and talked afterwards about some of these top three fights.

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Mario Barrios split draw with Abel Ramos for this was the WBC.

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Walter Wey title was on the line.

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Barrios like, what the fuck is this very cool to put on a very entertaining fight

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and in front of such a big crowd. Awesome.

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But if you're supposed to be the welterweight champion,

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one of the welterweight champions, like, what the fuck is this?

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Abel Ramos is long removed from his best days,

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which weren't that great to begin with.

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So yeah, I think Barrios has just put a target on his back with this performance.

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Everybody's going to want a shot at his belt now.

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Unfortunate for him.

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He's going to get paid like and he can choose probably between a few people.

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Yeah, I was thinking like of the people who should who I think should get priority

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would be the other three titleists and Stan Jonas is part of the PBC stable as well.

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So that one would be the easiest one.

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Brian Norman with top rank and then Boots with match room.

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Not so much still.

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I also kind of like that this was on this card because it was an all action fight

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that was close. Like it's it's a good fight for casuals and Mario Barrios

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always has great walkouts.

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A few of my casual friends were sending me like, what the fuck is this?

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This is awesome type.

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Yeah, that's that's how we do it.

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That's how Barrios does it anyway.

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Sometimes the theatrics are cool if they're done properly.

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I always like his walkouts.

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Yeah, that's just me.

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Makes me think of the the UFC light heavyweight champ, Alex Pajero.

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He does like an Amazonian kind of thing.

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Yeah, it really reminds me of Camacho.

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Good one.

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Like I always assumed Mario Barrios was a Camacho fan.

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Yeah, that would make a lot of sense in more ways than just the walkout.

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Moving up, Katie Taylor gets the UD over Amanda Serrano.

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You were both saying you thought Katie Taylor was that was the right decision.

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Am I recalling that correctly?

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I had Katie winning.

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OK.

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Like really close.

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But I think on my scorecard, it was she won by one round.

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Like I agreed with one of the judges.

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Yeah, I can't be too hard on the decision, even though it didn't go the way that I thought it should have.

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Because like you had said, it was really close.

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Katie Taylor getting the nod this time isn't it's not a robbery just because you don't like the decision.

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The fight's really close and it's exciting.

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And the person that you want to win loses doesn't make it a robbery.

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Amanda didn't get robbed.

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Sorry.

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There's a lot of headbutts.

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Yes, she did get docked a point for them, though.

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So not sure.

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What else you want? You want her to get disqualified?

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I don't think they were bad enough to get this call.

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No, they weren't.

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No, I think I said this the other day, but that's how Katie Taylor fights.

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Yes.

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And like Amanda Serrano was doing nothing to avoid the headbutts.

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She was also coming in headfirst constantly.

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Katie Taylor must just have the best skin in boxing because I don't think she's ever been cut from a headbutt.

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I can't recall if she has off the top of my head.

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But yeah, not.

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That cut was gross though.

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It was.

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The Amanda Serrano cut.

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Yes.

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Cut.

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I did not enjoy that.

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I really think they probably could have stopped that fight early over that cut.

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Yeah, would have ended up going the same way regardless of when it was stopped if it had been.

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I think there's two factors at play here that I don't know if they can be compared to.

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Here that I don't know if they cancel each other out, but drip one of them that you had mentioned that like a Serrano when when you're not sure who to score how to score it.

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People tend to favor whoever is being more aggressive and that might be what why people were upset that Serrano lost.

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But on the other hand, people who are cut and bleeding tend to get scored against because the cut the blood looks bad on you.

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So I'm not sure what do you make of those two factors?

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I mean, they definitely score damage.

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But also, I mean that damage from my head.

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Was the damage from a head butt or is it accidental?

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Like, yeah, that's a head butt, right?

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Yeah, I mean, but Taylor definitely targeted it afterwards.

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Yeah, of course.

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Yeah.

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I mean, any good boxer.

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You would.

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What did you have to report?

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The thing is like Amanda was just hitting leather.

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Like she looked like she was doing a lot, but at the end of the day, she wasn't really doing much.

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I think the first round where she rocked Kate Taylor that was probably her best round.

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But maybe a second was pretty good too, I guess.

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But like anything after that, she just walked Kate Taylor would like fell up, you know, cover herself.

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And then Katie would explode, flurry Amanda real quick and piece her up.

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Then they would clinch and reset.

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So even with the point deduction and she still won, it kind of tells you that like Serrano didn't do enough.

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Right.

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Even though it looks like she did, but she wasn't really doing much at all.

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But also you have to look at it from like us, like boxing connoisseurs compared to like the casual viewer.

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They just see Serrano pushing back and don't want a lot of punches at Kate Taylor.

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But what we're seeing is like, yeah, what we're seeing is like, all right, you're hitting all gloves, hitting arm.

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And that's about it.

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Those might be a good strategy.

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Like Canelo did it to Callum Smith, but that's not those aren't scoring shots.

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Yeah, but the thing is like, Canelo Smith didn't flurry and piece up Canelo.

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He just ate the shots, didn't really retaliate.

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Difference is again, Kate Taylor would back up a few steps, wait until Serrano either threw her, I guess, punches

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or she would wait for an opening, just flurry.

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And then she pieced her up a lot.

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Like I think if you watch her back, you'll see Serrano, she got hit a lot towards the middle and late rounds.

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Like she was just getting decked.

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Yeah, Katie had her hurt a couple times.

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Like Serrano was rocked two or three times in those late rounds.

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And I hate that everybody is just talking about the CompuBox numbers.

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As like Drip said, half of those didn't land.

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I don't think there is no way she landed a hundred more punches than Katie Taylor did.

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Even if they did, something to remember is the old Jim Lampley refrain.

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Anytime they when the CompuBox numbers were brought up after any fight on an HBO broadcast,

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you would say this is academic.

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This doesn't fucking count for anything.

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It doesn't matter if you get a hundred more punches.

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Did they hurt Katie Taylor more than Katie Taylor's punches hurt Serrano?

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Probably not. Doesn't seem so anyway.

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I think Katie's punches were much more effective.

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Like Drip said, she maybe didn't land as many, but they were the ones she landed were doing more damage.

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And they were well placed.

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They were more effective, which is one of the scoring criteria.

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Yeah, definitely. It's yeah, it's I don't know.

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Yeah, it didn't go the way I'd hoped, but that shit's not a robbery.

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Okay, moving up to the main event.

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Jake Paul gets the UD over Mike Tyson.

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Eight two-minute rounds.

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How was this a professional match?

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I know we talked about this before, but what the fuck, Texas?

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Yeah, come on.

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Nathan, we were talking about it on MMA show.

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It was that they went to Texas because of how lax their sanctioning is.

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The fighter health testing is just like, are you breathing?

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Is your heart pumping?

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Cool.

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All right.

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Have fun.

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And that's like really it.

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And they picked that.

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So that's why they were there.

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Tyson looked like as far as professional boxing goes, he looked every bit of 60.

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Even though he's a few years shy of it.

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I'm just rounding it up.

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He looked very much like a 60 year old man.

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He was in fantastic shape for a 60 year old man, but that shit's not going to even fucking

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clown like Jake Paul is going to do better than that.

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His upper body movement still fast.

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Yes, but the legs are like, oh, does it does even have legs at this point?

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I was really waiting for him to like stumble and fall trying to move.

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Yeah, it was not a pretty sad state of affairs overall.

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Jake Paul looked fucking terrified, which I don't blame him.

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It's Mike Tyson.

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Yeah, but even at 60 years old, I would probably shit myself walking in like him looking at

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me across the ring like, oh my God, what am I doing here?

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This is a terrible idea.

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I think that's exactly what Jake Paul did.

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That's why he stayed 10 feet away at all times.

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Yeah, that was one of the things that the I'm going to call them out of towners, the

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non boxing media outlets that were covering this.

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People were expecting Mike Tyson to be that same scary guy and he might have looked apart,

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but he didn't.

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He wasn't able to play it anymore.

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I stand by Jake Paul being a net positive from what I've heard.

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Like I saw reports saying that he's done with this boxing clown show stuff.

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That would be good.

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I don't know how true that is, but.

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He seems like a great promoter.

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Yeah, he's a very good promoter.

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Oh, fantastic promoter.

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I think he's done a lot for boxing, honestly.

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Right.

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Net positive.

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New fans, new eyes.

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If he gets 100, we'll just use round numbers, 100 people to watch.

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If 10 of those people become more attached to boxing and if one of those becomes like

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a hardcore fan, that to me is worth it.

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Yeah.

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I think he's definitely turned some of the kids on to boxing, as it were.

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Be good with the Jake Paul shit.

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Sweet man, we put some time on that.

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All right.

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So let's move into Saturday, November 16th.

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This was the Latino night in fucking Saudi Arabia.

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Very interesting placement of that.

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We talked a bit about these.

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They had the dancers.

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I really like the folklorico.

347
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Yeah.

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Is that the right?

349
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Yeah, I really like them.

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So one just from the bottom up, because there's actually quite a few interesting fights.

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I have kind of have them out of order here.

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But Ziad Al Mayouf gets the majority draw over Juan Carlos Ramirez.

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Al Mayouf is a Saudi boxer that they're really trying to shoehorn into the whole scene and

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it's not going very well.

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This was not a majority draw, but it's in Saudi Arabia.

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So yeah.

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What can you expect?

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Oscar Duarte.

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This is the same dude I think got beaten by Ryan Garcia a while back.

360
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Yeah.

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First, Botersone Akhmedov.

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I thought Duarte looked pretty good in this fight, actually.

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He definitely did not look like the same guy who lost to Ryan Garcia.

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Seems like he went back to the lab, put some stuff together.

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So very cool.

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William Zepeda, split decision over Tevin Farmer.

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He got knocked down in the seventh with a just beautifully timed shot.

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I think Tevin Farmer is back.

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Yeah, I was really impressed with Tevin Farmer.

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The Tevin Farmer is fucking back.

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Just like the Murataya one where I was a little bit more, I don't know, leaning more towards

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Murataya.

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This time, I'm not so sure that Zepeda got that one.

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I'm not sure what to make of it.

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Yeah, I think Farmer kind of got fucked, to be honest, which seems to happen to him a

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lot.

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It's unfortunate.

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I hope he's getting paid extra.

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That twitch of his still scares the shit out of me, but I guess I have to take it back.

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The doctors seem to know what they're doing because he looks good.

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But that involuntary twitch is terrifying.

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It's unnerving for sure.

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It looks like a sign of something very serious, but yeah, apparently it's not that big a deal,

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I guess.

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He did take two years afterwards before he really fought anybody, so I guess the doctors

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and trainers and everybody knows what they're doing.

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They are professionals.

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I kind of thought Farmer probably won that one, actually.

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I think he did, too.

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Everybody is saying Zepeda looked like shit.

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I don't think that's true.

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I didn't think he looked like his usual self.

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I just think Farmer looked really good.

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That might be why Zepeda didn't look so great because Tevin Farmer was on point.

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Anyways, I think Farmer won the moral victory on that one at the very least.

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Yep.

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Interim WBC, lightweight titles on the line.

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So this puts Zepeda in line, number one in line for Shakur Stevenson.

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Gross.

400
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Right.

401
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I was going to ask, Drip, because one of your local boy, Tevin Farmer, was able to make

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Zepeda look kind of silly.

403
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Can Shakur Stevenson do the same, given the differences in power disparity, for example?

404
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Oof.

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Can Shakur...

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Yeah.

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Can Shakur replicate Tevin's performance or do better?

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Probably do better, if that's got to say, right?

409
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Yeah.

410
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I don't know.

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I'm not so sure.

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I don't know, actually.

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Yeah.

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I would say do better.

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I mean, it is Shakur Stevenson.

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As much as he is Shakur, the skills are there.

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As much as he's Shakur, he's still Shakur.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

420
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It sounds silly, but yeah.

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I mean, I would say do better, right?

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I don't know if he throws as many punches, though.

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I really don't know how that fight would go.

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I want to say that Zepeda swarms him and eventually catches him with something, and Shakur's chin's

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never been tested, and I kind of assume it's not good.

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But I have nothing to base that on other than Shakur is boring and I don't want to see him

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fight anymore.

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Right.

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It would be a matter of how much danger is he willing to put himself into to secure the

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victory?

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I don't think Shakur is going to put himself in danger.

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I don't think he ever does.

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That's what I was going to go with was he's not the type.

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The only time he'll stand in front of you is if he knows you're not going to hurt him.

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I don't think he'll do that with Zepeda because I think he knows Zepeda could hurt him.

436
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Right.

437
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But do you think that fight actually happens now?

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No.

439
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Zepeda says his hand's broken.

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Shakur says his hand was broken.

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I don't see those guys fighting next year either.

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I was going to say if it's going to happen, it's going to be like late next year.

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If it happens next year at all.

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I think they're both going to fight other people first for sure.

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Exactly.

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They're going to get a comebacks first.

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All right.

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Moving up to Arnold Barbosa gets his respect.

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Give him his respect over Jose Ramirez.

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That was great.

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Barbosa looked better than he did in his Golden Boy debut.

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He looked better than he ever has when he was with top rank.

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Ramirez, is he on the skid because they were talking about him having trouble making 140.

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Might be thinking about moving up.

455
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I don't know.

456
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What are we thinking here?

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I honestly had thought Jose Ramirez retired.

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I was surprised when they said he was fighting.

459
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I don't know why I thought that.

460
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I just did.

461
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Well then, Arnold, you're also in a pretty stacked division here.

462
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Let me pull up some names because he looked great.

463
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But yeah, Ramirez didn't look like himself.

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So I'm not sure how much to make of it.

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Jack Cattarall.

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I think that's a good name for him.

467
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Yeah.

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I think he could beat Cattarall.

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I think so too.

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But I think Cattarall could also test him as well, which is important if you want to

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see how high up the ladder you're going to go.

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I got to pull up a picture.

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I forget which one is Barbosa.

474
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He's the one with the respect.

475
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The one with all of the respect.

476
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But why with the respect?

477
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Yeah, because he made sure that Sergio Mora gave him his respect.

478
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Which is so fucking random because I don't think Mora ever talks bad about him.

479
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Yeah, he never said anything.

480
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So I don't know.

481
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It's a weird thing.

482
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Weird thing to be, weird time to be mad, I'll say.

483
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Yeah, I think if Ramirez wants to do anything, he needs to go up a weight class.

484
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I wonder if he wasn't a little weight drained.

485
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They were saying that he had been struggling with 140.

486
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So it's possible.

487
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Kind of fought like it.

488
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Moving up, Oscar Goyaso knocks out CP Freshmart in the seventh to unify the WBA and WBO titles

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for strawweight.

490
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I'm happy for Colazo, but I'm sad because I really like CP Freshmart.

491
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You can't be champion forever.

492
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And eight years is a long time at strawweight.

493
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And for anyone, for the uninitiated, which is a lot of people when it comes to strawweight,

494
00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:03,960
he wasn't just some dude sitting in Thailand beating up Bangkok fucking taxi drivers.

495
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:05,860
That's not at all what was happening.

496
00:26:05,860 --> 00:26:11,280
People were coming from all over the world to fight Freshmart and he was beating them

497
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:12,280
all.

498
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:13,840
He's starting to look old.

499
00:26:13,840 --> 00:26:16,800
Yeah, he did look his age a bit.

500
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:22,400
Like not bad, but you have to be so fast at those small weight classes.

501
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:27,640
And he just he couldn't keep up with it anymore, I think.

502
00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,160
Did you watch this one drip?

503
00:26:29,160 --> 00:26:30,160
I didn't.

504
00:26:30,160 --> 00:26:31,160
I missed it.

505
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,840
Yeah, I think a lot of people skipped the flyweight.

506
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:34,840
Yeah.

507
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:39,320
Bangkok flyweight, strawweight fight, which was a mistake because it was exciting.

508
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:41,040
It was actually very, very good.

509
00:26:41,040 --> 00:26:42,040
Yeah.

510
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:46,160
I know that the broadcast was shitting on Freshmart a lot.

511
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:50,880
And I really think if anyone should have been yelling, give me my respect, should have been

512
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,880
Freshmart.

513
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:52,880
Yeah.

514
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:58,560
Because even though he lost, you're still looking at a very long time, long tenure champion

515
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,800
who beat a lot of guys, a lot of good competitors.

516
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,260
So give him his respect.

517
00:27:04,260 --> 00:27:11,280
This is a very good win for Oscar, who had a pretty like shaky outing last time.

518
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,280
So good for him.

519
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:13,280
Yeah, yeah.

520
00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:17,240
I'm really happy for Colazo.

521
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:21,400
Only problem is, is he is American, right?

522
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:22,520
Yes.

523
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,560
Nobody in America cares about straw weights.

524
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:27,060
Nope.

525
00:27:27,060 --> 00:27:28,240
That's the only problem.

526
00:27:28,240 --> 00:27:35,120
Like I liked when CP Freshmart was making people fly to Thailand because the crowds

527
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:38,800
were fucking awesome if you could find the fights to watch.

528
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:39,800
Yeah.

529
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,120
Thai crowds are amazing.

530
00:27:41,120 --> 00:27:42,120
Yeah.

531
00:27:42,120 --> 00:27:44,080
And they don't care how small you are.

532
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,080
No.

533
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,040
Like they show up and they show out.

534
00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,520
But the downside was they're really hard to find the broadcast.

535
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,080
Oscar, Oscar, Oscar.

536
00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,080
Is he the best?

537
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:59,960
He is the best Puerto Rican fighter right now.

538
00:27:59,960 --> 00:28:01,960
So that's fun.

539
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:02,960
Yeah.

540
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,600
Yeah, I have to agree.

541
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:06,760
I don't know.

542
00:28:06,760 --> 00:28:12,480
Matthias looked pretty mid against Paro and then, oh yeah, he got a knockout in his comeback.

543
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440
But like, who the fuck was that guy anyway?

544
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,280
According to Boxerak, he was born in Jersey.

545
00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:19,120
Yes, he was.

546
00:28:19,120 --> 00:28:21,880
Oh, good old Joyzy.

547
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:22,880
All right.

548
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:23,880
I could see why he left.

549
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:28,200
Hey, well, well, well, Jersey's not that bad of a place.

550
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:34,580
In the main event, Zerto gets the UD over Chris Billams-Smith to unify.

551
00:28:34,580 --> 00:28:38,600
He picks up the WBO title to add to his WBA.

552
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,400
Oh, goodness gracious.

553
00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:47,400
Holy fuck is CBS a like a juggernaut.

554
00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,280
I don't know what the right word is.

555
00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:50,280
Yeah.

556
00:28:50,280 --> 00:28:53,040
Like, how did he not go down?

557
00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:56,120
How did he take that much punishment?

558
00:28:56,120 --> 00:29:04,360
It's pretty wild to see Zerto looking unlike any time we've ever seen him.

559
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:10,840
He was really light on his feet, pivoting, making angles and stuff, changing up his punch

560
00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,080
selection to set up other shots.

561
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:18,800
It was, I don't know, where has this guy been?

562
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:21,560
Where the fuck has this Ramirez been?

563
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:28,200
Because CBS, I don't know too much about him to really knock him.

564
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:31,040
But that fight against Okoli, like he was able to do something.

565
00:29:31,040 --> 00:29:33,120
He was able to be pretty successful there.

566
00:29:33,120 --> 00:29:37,560
And Okoli, whatever his other faults, wasn't necessarily a slouch either.

567
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:38,560
Yeah.

568
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:39,560
I'm not.

569
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:40,560
Yeah.

570
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:41,560
Where did this come from?

571
00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,200
This is what happens when Gilberto gets to eat all the tacos he wants.

572
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:46,200
Yeah.

573
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:47,600
No more weight cuts.

574
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:55,360
No, I was super impressed with him and I cannot believe that Chris Billams Smith is that tough.

575
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,960
I can't believe any human is that tough.

576
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:04,200
I was saying during the fight, like this is around like round eight or nine when it looked,

577
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:08,880
it was pretty obvious for one, CBS is not going to win.

578
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:14,360
Two, CBS has kind of checked out that then it comes to like, what are we, what more do

579
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:15,720
we need to see?

580
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,720
What more do we want?

581
00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,880
Do we want to watch just watch CBS get his ass kicked for four more rounds?

582
00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,240
I agree with you.

583
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:26,920
But there was also no point where I feel like the ref could have stopped it.

584
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:28,920
It would have had to have been his corner.

585
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:29,920
Yeah.

586
00:30:29,920 --> 00:30:30,920
That's what I meant more.

587
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:31,920
Yeah.

588
00:30:31,920 --> 00:30:32,920
The ref could not have stopped it.

589
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,920
It wasn't that grueling.

590
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,480
But somebody, someone should have said, look, hey Chris, like, dude, what the fuck are we

591
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,000
doing here?

592
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,160
Yeah, I agree.

593
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,360
His corner could have stopped it.

594
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,480
Anytime in the last four rounds, his corner could have stopped it.

595
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:53,840
Cause I also don't think CBS has the power for that.

596
00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:55,680
Like one shot come back.

597
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:56,960
He does not.

598
00:30:56,960 --> 00:30:58,880
This was a great fight though.

599
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,680
Anybody who missed it should go find it.

600
00:31:00,680 --> 00:31:01,680
It was good.

601
00:31:01,680 --> 00:31:03,200
I gotta go find it.

602
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,680
Yeah, it's, it's worth it.

603
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:10,200
So the, the, uh, Zerto has two.

604
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:15,800
The other two are McAlian, uh, Jai Opataya as well.

605
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,520
I don't, Opataya is the fight to make.

606
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:19,520
Absolutely.

607
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:22,560
There, there is nothing else to make besides.

608
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,400
And I think that would be a fucking banger of a fight.

609
00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:27,760
Like I'd be excited for that one.

610
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:28,760
Absolutely.

611
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,440
I hope, I hope he does it.

612
00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,200
Opataya, I mean, I think McAlian should, he's listed as inactive.

613
00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:42,360
He hasn't fought since last year, November of last year.

614
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:48,240
Um, I'm going to need you to get your ass on a, on a flight to Australia.

615
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,200
Cause who the fuck are you?

616
00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:54,840
You don't get to say, oh, the winner of Opataya and Zerto gets, has the privilege of fighting

617
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:55,840
me.

618
00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:57,040
Like shut the fuck up.

619
00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,460
You don't, you don't get to say that.

620
00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:03,000
So David Benavides was talking about going up to fight Zerto.

621
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,760
Oh, does he want to look even more flabby?

622
00:32:05,760 --> 00:32:09,360
Well that, and I don't think it's a good idea.

623
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,840
I think Benavides would get his ass kicked.

624
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:12,840
Yeah.

625
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:13,840
Yeah.

626
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:14,840
He's got smoked.

627
00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:15,840
Yeah.

628
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:16,840
It's not a good move for him.

629
00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,080
If you can't stop, uh, Vosdick, not sure what you're going to do.

630
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,720
Uh, 25 pounds higher.

631
00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:24,920
Anything more for this, for this card?

632
00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,240
All right.

633
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:30,440
Uh, one quick one I wanted to mention motherfucking Mickey Scala.

634
00:32:30,440 --> 00:32:33,160
He's a local, local guy for me.

635
00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:35,040
He gets a win over Luis Ramos.

636
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,600
It's a six rounder in New York.

637
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:38,600
So enjoy.

638
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,800
If you don't want me to talk about Mickey Scala, then maybe call in and let me know

639
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:44,800
why.

640
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:46,960
8 3 3 5 8 9 7 6 3 7.

641
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:47,960
Wow.

642
00:32:47,960 --> 00:32:48,960
What a plugin.

643
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,280
I know I'm really good at this.

644
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:51,800
So December 7th, pro hardware day.

645
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:53,200
There are so many fights.

646
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,720
There's four cards.

647
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:55,720
Yeah.

648
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,920
This is fucking massive on the pro box one.

649
00:32:57,920 --> 00:32:58,920
Jesus.

650
00:32:58,920 --> 00:32:59,920
Four cards.

651
00:32:59,920 --> 00:33:07,760
Um, so pro box recently aligned with Conlin boxing, the Conlin brothers, Conlin family.

652
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:09,120
So that's what this card is.

653
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,280
A lot of these are lower level guys.

654
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,160
Some people making their debuts.

655
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:18,760
The only name I recognize on this whole thing is Tyrone McKenna in the main event versus

656
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:19,760
Dylan Moran.

657
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,000
That's all I got.

658
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:22,000
It should be pretty good.

659
00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:23,000
That one.

660
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:25,200
I think, I think they're probably pretty even.

661
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,200
Yeah.

662
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:29,700
I would say that would be a good, it wouldn't be bad to tune in for that.

663
00:33:29,700 --> 00:33:32,160
So that's on Saturday, December 7th.

664
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:40,360
Because it's in, it's in Waterford in Ireland, it'll be on around the same time as the Queensbury

665
00:33:40,360 --> 00:33:41,360
card.

666
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,520
I really hope pro box staggers it so that they're not competing because they're probably

667
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,960
going to not do as well as Queensbury.

668
00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:55,520
Pro box being on YouTube and free might help them.

669
00:33:55,520 --> 00:33:56,520
True that.

670
00:33:56,520 --> 00:33:58,640
Actually, good point.

671
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,280
And you can always watch it after.

672
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,000
There's one thing I really like about the pro box is like, you don't have to watch it

673
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:06,000
live.

674
00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,000
Okay.

675
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:11,240
For the Queensbury card, this one's at the Wembley Arena.

676
00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:12,840
Bit of stuff on here.

677
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,620
I'll just, whatever has some intrigue.

678
00:34:15,620 --> 00:34:17,840
It's really just from, what is it?

679
00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:21,120
One, two, it's like the fifth fight from the top.

680
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Sean Noakes versus Matthew Rennie.

681
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:30,520
It's welterweight, the British, the pride belt, the rainbow one that the Brits like.

682
00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:32,760
Sean Noakes versus Matthew Rennie for that.

683
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:36,400
Lawrence Okoli debuting at heavyweight versus Hussein Muhammad.

684
00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:40,600
Yeah, Okoli's back, baby.

685
00:34:40,600 --> 00:34:45,600
Solomon Dakers versus David Adelaide.

686
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
This is the pride heavyweight belt.

687
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,000
That's fun.

688
00:34:49,000 --> 00:34:51,820
Brad Pauls versus Denzel Bentley.

689
00:34:51,820 --> 00:34:54,280
This one's actually should be good.

690
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:55,720
Denzel Bentley.

691
00:34:55,720 --> 00:35:01,120
That is the snootiest name I have heard in a while.

692
00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:02,840
This is a 12 rounder.

693
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,120
The previous ones were 10.

694
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:11,640
So the WBO International and the British middleweight titles on the line here.

695
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:18,360
And at the top of the bill, Sam Noakes versus Ryan Walsh, 12 rounds, the British and WBO

696
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:21,400
International lightweight belts will be on the line.

697
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:22,400
So there you go.

698
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:25,680
That's all of the stuff happening in Europe.

699
00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Yeah, I didn't recognize very many of those names.

700
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:32,940
I recognize these from on paper.

701
00:35:32,940 --> 00:35:36,640
Just the Noakes brothers on the Queensberry one.

702
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,640
Okoli.

703
00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:38,640
Yeah.

704
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:40,560
All right, moving on.

705
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:49,000
In Puerto Rico, Matchroom is returning to the scene of the crime, as they keep saying,

706
00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:50,600
for whatever the fuck reason.

707
00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,520
I do not understand why this is in Puerto Rico.

708
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,320
Yeah, it doesn't make sense.

709
00:35:56,320 --> 00:35:58,160
I don't know.

710
00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:00,640
There's a bunch of shit on it that I'm going to skip.

711
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,000
Yanquil Figueroa versus Angel Gonzalez.

712
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,760
This is WBC Silver and WBO Intercontinental flyweights.

713
00:36:09,760 --> 00:36:14,320
Is that another one of the Figueroas?

714
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:16,280
Is he related to the other ones?

715
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:17,280
No.

716
00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,880
Not that I know of anyway.

717
00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,720
I guess it's not that uncommon of a last name.

718
00:36:21,720 --> 00:36:22,720
That's pretty common.

719
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:23,720
Oh, no, yeah.

720
00:36:23,720 --> 00:36:24,720
Figueroa is.

721
00:36:24,720 --> 00:36:25,720
Henry Lebron.

722
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,080
He is the doctor.

723
00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:28,080
The little doctor?

724
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:29,080
El doctorcito?

725
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:30,080
Doctor Dolittle?

726
00:36:30,080 --> 00:36:35,160
His nickname on BoxRec is El doctorcito.

727
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,000
Yeah, the little doctor.

728
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,000
Hilarious.

729
00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:41,280
Doctor Dolittle.

730
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:43,520
Henry Lebron versus Christopher Diaz.

731
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,640
IBF Latin America and ABO.

732
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:50,280
Superfeathers Mark Castro versus Agustin Kitana.

733
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,120
Mark Castro is the Elon Musk lookalike.

734
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:54,840
Ten round lightweights.

735
00:36:54,840 --> 00:37:00,480
And Liam Parrow versus Richardson Hitchens for the IBF super lightweight title.

736
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:09,380
I really hope that Richardson Hitchens is stopped in a brutal fashion that makes him

737
00:37:09,380 --> 00:37:10,720
reconsider his career.

738
00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:11,720
Please.

739
00:37:11,720 --> 00:37:15,360
Yeah, I'm going to jump on the Liam Parrow bandwagon too.

740
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,400
I think Parrow is a dog.

741
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:19,400
Please.

742
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:20,880
I want him to be good now.

743
00:37:20,880 --> 00:37:23,920
Riddus of his company, Parrow.

744
00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:25,720
The world needs you.

745
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,760
You've been called to service.

746
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:29,200
Liam Parrow is him.

747
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,240
Yeah, I guess.

748
00:37:31,240 --> 00:37:32,240
All right.

749
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:36,080
Moving to top rank in Phoenix.

750
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:37,360
Did you get a ticket for this one?

751
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:38,360
I did not.

752
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,360
I got snipped.

753
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:41,360
That's all right, though.

754
00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:42,360
Demmler Zamora.

755
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,160
I'm going to fucking skip all this shit.

756
00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:48,720
Giovanna Santian versus Frederick Lawson.

757
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:49,720
Walter Waits.

758
00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:53,920
Santian's coming back after Brian Norman beat him bloody.

759
00:37:53,920 --> 00:37:56,440
It's a pretty rough one.

760
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:58,480
And then I'm going to skip this.

761
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:00,800
Then Doful Delgado.

762
00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:02,480
Whatever.

763
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,840
Richard Torres versus Isaac Munoz.

764
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:07,320
Eight round heavies.

765
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:08,320
Interesting.

766
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,120
I thought it's not bad.

767
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,520
It's not a bad step up, actually.

768
00:38:13,520 --> 00:38:15,720
18-1-1 for Isaac.

769
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,720
Pretty good.

770
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,240
I like Richard Torres.

771
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:20,920
Do I think he's going to be world champion?

772
00:38:20,920 --> 00:38:21,920
Probably not.

773
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:23,680
Do I want him to be?

774
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:24,960
Yes.

775
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,840
I would like for him to go to cruiserweight if he's going to go anywhere.

776
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:32,280
Do you think he's not that heavy, I guess?

777
00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:37,440
No, he would have to probably have to cut a little bit of muscle mass to get to the 200.

778
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,200
What's the weird one?

779
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:40,200
Bridger?

780
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:41,200
That only exists.

781
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:42,200
Yeah.

782
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:43,200
Oh, Bridgerweight?

783
00:38:43,200 --> 00:38:44,200
Yeah.

784
00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:45,200
Which is unfortunate.

785
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:51,080
That's the weight he comes in at pretty much every fight night he comes in around Bridger.

786
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,080
Yeah.

787
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:58,200
And he's not yoked, but I don't think he has enough fat that he could make cruiserweight

788
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,480
by just cutting fat.

789
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:07,120
In the co-main, Rafael Espinosa is rematching Robesy Ramirez, WBO featherweight title on

790
00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:09,120
the line.

791
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:17,120
I like Espinosa a lot, so I really hope that he gets this one more convincingly because

792
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:18,800
Robesy is still pretty good.

793
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:22,080
Yeah, me too.

794
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:26,600
I don't think it's a frog check for Robesy, but I think it's a ceiling check.

795
00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:36,820
And in the main, Nav Emanuel Navarrete versus Oscar Valdez, WBO super feather.

796
00:39:36,820 --> 00:39:43,640
This is consolidating the interim title while Nav went up to 135 to test the waters.

797
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,000
So there you go.

798
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:49,480
I'm not expecting a whole lot to be different than their first one.

799
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,440
No, I'm excited though.

800
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:53,040
The first one was good.

801
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,680
Yes, exciting.

802
00:39:54,680 --> 00:39:59,520
Like Valdez always, always, always comes to scrap.

803
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:00,520
Always.

804
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:07,280
I can't, can't ever fault him for that, for not trying, not having heart or grit or toughness

805
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:09,960
or whatever word you want to use.

806
00:40:09,960 --> 00:40:17,560
Nav is, I don't know, just a little bit too much, too much, too unorthodox for Valdez,

807
00:40:17,560 --> 00:40:21,600
who's a little bit more by the book in how he fights.

808
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,920
Yeah, not sure if this is going to go much better.

809
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,840
If I would be more than happy to eat my words, Valdez.

810
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:34,200
He grew up in Tucson, not too far from here in Phoenix.

811
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:39,680
So we're basically best friends at this point since we're like next door neighbors pretty

812
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:40,680
much.

813
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:42,480
But yeah, I really like both these guys.

814
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:44,200
I don't care who wins.

815
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,360
Yeah, it comes to nothing.

816
00:40:46,360 --> 00:40:48,480
I hope everybody has a good day.

817
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,560
Oh no, not one of those.

818
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,360
We want to see a winner, damn it.

819
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:57,320
Yeah, it only comes to one thing for me and that's, yeah, I like them both.

820
00:40:57,320 --> 00:41:02,520
They're both fun fighters, both put on exciting fights every time they come out pretty much.

821
00:41:02,520 --> 00:41:05,800
So all I got is Valdez grew up in Arizona.

822
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:06,800
So that's it.

823
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:07,800
I got nothing else.

824
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,560
It's the only thing that sets them apart.

825
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:11,560
Who are you picking, Drip?

826
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,560
I'll go with Valdez.

827
00:41:12,560 --> 00:41:13,560
I like Arizona.

828
00:41:13,560 --> 00:41:14,560
Nice.

829
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:19,360
Well, if you guys are both cheering for Valdez, I guess I'll have to cheer for Navarrete.

830
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:21,480
OK, come on now.

831
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,480
Come on.

832
00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:23,480
Come on.

833
00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:27,080
Oh, well, that's it for this portion.

834
00:41:27,080 --> 00:41:31,600
On the next portion, before I head out, can we just make a quick section talking about

835
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,600
that trailer for Usyk Fury 2?

836
00:41:33,600 --> 00:41:35,520
Because fuck me, that was awesome.

837
00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,520
I haven't seen it.

838
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:37,520
I seriously I haven't.

839
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:38,520
That was a great noise.

840
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:39,520
Dude, you got to go watch it.

841
00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:40,520
Take the time right now to go watch it.

842
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:41,520
I'm pulling it up.

843
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:42,520
So hold on a second.

844
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:43,520
Let me.

845
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:55,780
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00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:59,760
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So we're heading into a day which will live in infamy, December 7th.

866
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,800
It's a busy day.

867
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,560
Parting words for December 7th.

868
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:12,640
Stay warm if you're anywhere that's not in a warm country or state.

869
00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,240
Put up your Christmas trees if you celebrate.

870
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:17,960
And yeah, stay hydrated.

871
00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:21,400
And don't forget the overnight bakery.

872
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:22,400
Jesus.

873
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,800
I don't know what I got for parting words.

874
00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:27,920
I guess it is December now, isn't it?

875
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,560
It is indeed.

876
00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:31,640
Oh, I know.

877
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:34,200
It is meat pie season.

878
00:43:34,200 --> 00:43:40,600
I wanted a meat pie so badly and I cannot find them here anywhere and it makes me sad.

879
00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:46,520
So everybody in the parts of the world with ovens, please enjoy meat pies for me.

880
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,440
Do I have anything to add to it?

881
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,120
Please subscribe to my YouTube channel.

882
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:58,120
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883
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,120
That's it.

884
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:00,720
All right.

885
00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:26,560
Let's wrap this one up.

