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Welcome to the Gospel Truth Podcast. I'm your host Dylan and my co-host. I'm Jason. Today

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we're going to be talking about the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost. Woo. Woo. Exciting stuff here.

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Jason, how you been? I've actually been doing really good. And like, you know, from the last

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time we recorded, I talked about working on the website and I finished it finally. Yeah,

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we even got some merch up there, I believe as well. Yeah. So I actually put it on the website

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down our mission and we have a donation thing and merch store and a get involved thing. So people

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who want to donate, there's 75% of donations go to charity, others goes, other 25% goes to

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operational costs for the project and everything. Merch store, again, same thing, 75% goes to

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charity, 25% actually goes to our operational costs and anything that we we do on our podcast

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side. And then we have a get involved side of things where you can get involved with an outreach

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team, be a guest on the podcast or topics or questions to throw at us so that we can discuss

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them on the podcast itself. Yeah, I think we're still talking about where we want the donations

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to go. I think my main thing I always I always have a thing for ever since Jason, we were to

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AT&T and we started doing stuff with the Ferris Foundation and childhood cancer. I know that's a

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that's a big thing for me. My dad is the same way because my dad's beat three different types of

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cancer and he's like, I could not imagine being a kid in great through this. So I think that's

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where I like to see a good chunk of our money going to because that's important. And then I

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noticed like feeding America and stuff like that. So there's definitely options and where we want

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to see that money go to, you know, I mean, that'd be a lot right now, already with the bring in,

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but we still want to help support that because there are people that are, you know, they're

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going through it and they could use a blessing. This is not a way for us to make money. Like

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Jason said, it's basically just to do that for charity purposes. And then just for us to just

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operations and run. Keep it going. Yeah, and it's, it's really cool too, because like how you

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mentioned is that what I have a blog page on here on the website and the blog page is going to have

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like our podcast like in teach form or in word form. And then on top of that, it's going to have

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a section there for I think we're going to do like quarterly donations so that we can save up and

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chunk and give it out quarterly. And with that, it's going to say what's done which charity were

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given out to for that quarter and kind of give more information about it. And there might be

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repeats like Dylan said, like we like, we definitely both kind of go towards more of the

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childhood cancer stuff and taking care of the children and what's going on with that whole

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front. And yeah, that's that's something that we both really push for. And that will be in the

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blog and there will be repeats of it saying we're giving out this quarter, this charity and it

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might repeat itself, but it's good to just know where donations and money is going so people can

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see that it's it's going somewhere.

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Yeah, and I just want to make sure that everyone knows too, I know like, you hear about donations

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and where the money goes and only actually like 10% goes to the actual thing and people pocket it.

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So we're going to make sure into our due diligence that money is going to actually help what we want

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to go help towards or not to be funding money into, you know, to a donation that says, Oh, we, you

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know, we help out with feeding, feeding children, and then they give 10% to feeding children and 90%

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in their pocket. Right. Yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff in the news and a lot of people talking

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about that. So we're going to make sure that our the money is going to the right place as funding

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actual things. So that actually helps. And I like this, people spend their money and it go to like

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some, some, you know, person's pocket as much a bowl.

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Yep, just like I put on there carefully chosen by our research team. And exactly.

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So people if they're listening, they also know that that we're taking it serious.

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Yeah, exactly.

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Yeah. So the Holy Spirit, man, um, one of the, you know, three parts of the journey.

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Oh, yeah, I I'm really excited about this.

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Yeah, I feel so silly because like I'm sitting here like, Oh, man, what do I say you had to talk

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about it? I mean, I just taught on this a month ago with, you know,

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with the youth group, like, what is the Holy Spirit? And I was like, wait,

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Oh, come on. Now I'm like looking for notes and I can't find anything. And I'm like, I'll just have

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to speak part, I guess. But you know, I think just the, I think the first thing to talk about is like,

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honestly, the beginning of it, the first time, well, the first time it's seen in a multitude,

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because they taught it's talked about earlier parts of the Bible and stuff, but the day of Pentecost,

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an initial big kind of the coming out the big party for the, for the Holy Spirit, in a sense,

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or when it comes down and a fire comes over them and they're speaking tongues, you know,

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if you were hearing their languages, like, wait, hold on. Well, that's, that's my language. They're

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pressing the, you know, the Lord and you know, and then there's some people that are even mocking

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them even there, you know, if you were being mocked for their believing, I think of that.

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Like, oh, they're drunk. And then Peter's like, yo, it's nine o'clock. We come on now. We're not

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drunk. Why? We're not so drunk from the night before. We are, we are with God. God's presence

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is, you know, is in us now. I think that's important because when Jesus died, you know,

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the veil was torn. Holy of Holies, what we're talking about, there's a, there's a Holy of

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Holies for the Jewish people. There was, it was where God's presence was, the Holy Spirit was,

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in a sense. And when Jesus, the thing, the curtain was like, what, four feet, some of that thick.

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Like, oh, yeah. And they would have a priest, one of the Levi's, we had to go in there,

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you know, to do his priestly duties. And so they go, no, should they pray? You never give

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any priestly duties. And they had to go in there and have bells tied to them. Because if they weren't,

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you know, cleanses of sins and the right sacrifices and all that, they would drop dead

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instantly. And that's a pulling guy out with the rope. Like that's how the presence of God,

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how gnarly it is. Like, you know, Moses took off his feet in the presence of the Lord,

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and the burning bush, stuff like that. But when Jesus dies, he rips that, but his death,

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he rips that curtain. And then the Holy Spirit resides in all of us, which is so gnarly,

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I think that it's this powerful thing that we can call upon and use. And it's just there.

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That's just, you know, I think it was like that in the sense of how gnarly that is.

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Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree.

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You just didn't get either there because I keep going.

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Well, that's what I do when I'm host, like, hosting the episode. So it's good that you do it too.

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I just think, you know, and then just it's the crazy because the Holy Spirit can come in so many

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different ways, so many different gifts that it, you know, it feeds us, you know, it gives,

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it looks different every single person. Or like some people might have, you know,

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very much faithfulness belief, or they just don't know what it is. And so it's just,

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faithfulness belief, or they just believe so easily because it just, the Holy Spirit fills up,

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they just like a belief. I just believe this is it, God, I know that you're true.

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And then some people are like, they have discernment and they're like,

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this person, this situation, something's wrong with this. I feel wrong. Something's wrong in the

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spirit. You know, and then they have, you know, the show boats, the visions and tongues and,

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you know, interpretation and healing. There's just so many gifts that the Holy Spirit has.

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It's really the Swiss army knife.

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Oh, there you are. Well, I lost you for a second there.

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What did we really?

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That's okay. I can cut it and paste.

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What? I was on a beautiful rant.

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I know. And they cut you out.

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So as I was saying, where was I left off before I was talking?

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You said it was a beautiful thing. You said that they can show up different ways for different

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people.

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Yeah. And then I went on, I was talking about, it can be, you know, spirit of faithfulness of just

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being able to believe and then of discernment and being able to, you know, decide this, this

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discernment in like the spirit, whether things are good or you can get reads on people and

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healing and tongues, the more show body, you know, ones and visions, interpretations and visions

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and tongues and stuff like that.

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And healing, like, and those are things that we've all seen, like, well, I mean, we've all like,

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just, I'd say like, you know, you and me have like, especially growing up, you know, at San

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Maria vineyard, and we were there as kids, like learning that just experiencing that holy spirit

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presence. We just have meetings or we would just pray for that.

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And just, you know, that's where I learned my spiritual gift and I got it.

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Got it.

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Yeah. Well, maybe I could bring in some context to what you're talking about here.

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Yeah.

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So listening to the spiritual gifts is actually in first Corinthians 12, eight through 10, where

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it mentions the gifts. It also is comparable to Ephesians four, seven to 13, Isaiah 11, two to

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three, and Romans 12, three to eight. The gifts of the spirit are simply God empowering faithful

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Christians to do what he has called us to do for the greater of his spirit.

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Which it talks about that in second Peter one, three, where it says his divine power has given

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us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own

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glory and goodness. I guess the Holy Spirit are part of everything we need to accomplish his plan

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for our lives. What you said is that it can show up at different people differently.

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Romans 12, six actually explains that in the book of Romans, which is the first chapter of the book

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of six actually explains that pretty well. When Paul says we have different gifts according to

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the grace given to us, let us use them in proportion to our faith. The gifts are actually listed in the

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Bible with those references I made. You got the gift of wisdom, the gift of faith, gift of healing,

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gift of miracles, gift of prophecy, gift of discerning spirits, the gift of tongues,

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the gift of interpreting tongues, the gift of administration and the gift of helps,

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which that one is just the capacity to always help others and do whatever it takes to achieve that

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task. Those are really important understanding of that because you'll see somebody that you're like,

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wow, that person is always out there helping people. It does not bug them at all.

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And that's like the gift of helping. And there's a lot of different stuff out there. And like we

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just said, those are all the gifts of the spirit. So I would say, I don't know if you have the verses

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or anything in front of you, but this is a question I've heard before. And the question is,

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how do you get this? How does one get involved with the Holy Spirit?

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Let's see. Yeah. I've, you know, people ask, how do you get this? I, like I said earlier,

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I think I, maybe I didn't say it. Maybe I did. I don't know if I got cut out or not.

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We have the, we had the Holy Spirit. So those gifts reside in us.

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It's as simple as asking and you shall receive.

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Well, some gifts are going to, you know, come easier, just like, you know, if you go and you

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play sports or something, some sports come very easily. Like, you know, you go put me out there

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on a, you know, on a tennis court, I'm going to, oh, I'm going to suck. I'm going to do miserable.

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I'm going to do miserable. You know, I think I know a lot more than what I'm doing out there.

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You know, coaching basketball, playing basketball. I like basketball. I know the sport.

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Yeah. And then I think you put me out there and do track and field. And I think I,

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I think I know what I'm doing out there too, but you know, maybe not,

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you know, but it's like those things, those like, I think football track and field, those came so

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easy to me compared to like when we did like P E and high school. So high school Jason was the same

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when you went to school and you were older. You can see we're homeschooled basically.

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But no, like that was one of those things like you were, you were, you were, you were,

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that was one of those things like you did P units. Like, you know, I was actually like,

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we played the cross and P it was like, that was a great, that left for us. I don't know if

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everybody else sucked or I was just, I was just big enough to block the goal.

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You know, but then like we go do like bad bit and I'm like, this pickleball, like this is stupid.

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Um, you know, but that's like the same with the Holy Spirit.

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You have things that you're going to be better at things like for me, visions, like I think I

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have a crazy imagination. That's probably why God uses that. So I can get an image of it.

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And then I found like through this too, it's like, I'm also gonna get my visions.

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It's when I hear tongues and I get like a vision that interprets the tongue. I don't know if that's

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all legit, but I feel like that's what it is. Well, here's something to think about.

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Have you, have you, because I know you've been talking about the Holy Spirit with your youth

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group and stuff like that in general, have you, uh, gone to first Corinthians one by chance at all

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Corinthians one.

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Yeah. I want to say I can't, like I said, I can't find my notes. So, um,

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Oh, that makes sense.

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Yeah. No, I know. I definitely, I know it has some points where I still can't find my notes.

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No, I definitely, I know it has some points where I said I talked about the Corinthians.

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So the, the reason I bring it up is because in, in first Corinthians one, it's four through nine

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is the context where it's, uh, about God's grace to the Corinthians and the believers there. But

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before beginning to address the problems in that church or in the church in general, um,

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Paul actually declares his thanks to God for the people. Right. And he actually is thankful

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for God's grace and the good gifts, the spirit that God has given to him. And the gifts confirm

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that the Corinthians are truly in Christ. Because again, we can, we can always talk about

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Colossians five. That's all, that's a whole thing, but, uh, this means that Christ will sustain,

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sustain them all the ways to the end. Like I just said in the previous verses,

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this is the standard Christian life or Christian walk in, in Christ. And, um, in verse one,

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uh, or chapter one, verse seven, it says, uh, this is read the verse before. Um, it starts in,

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like I said, it starts in four, but just to give you an idea, verse seven, it says,

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so that you are not lacking in any gift as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ.

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Right. And, um, this is really cool because Paul wrote this in the previous verse and verse,

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actually in verse five, he wrote that by God's grace, the believers of Corinth had been enriched

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in all speech and all knowledge, um, that this might actually have a, like a reference to unique

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spiritual gifts, maybe like speaking in tongues or something like that. But, um, he adds that

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he adds that they're not lacking in any gift. Uh, in other words, like he's talking about how God

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has fully equipped the Corinthian Christians there with everything they need to lead to their lives.

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He, like Jesus is calling them to. And, um, I think that that's really important that

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part of this is that the Holy spirit brings knowledge and brings

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more to it. And the more that you connect with God, the more you go to God, the more that you study,

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um, which Galatians five again, we'll talk about that a little bit more, but, um, it's just

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interesting that this verse acknowledges that it's possible to have, um, like any of the gifts

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and multiple, it's not just like, Oh, you're just gifted one. Okay. Don't try for the others.

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Yeah, no. I, yeah. Like we were talking about that. You know, it's like only limit you have on your

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gifts is on what you put them on, you know, like anybody can heal anybody, you know, can have

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visions. Anybody can speak in tongues, interpret the tongues. Like, you know, it's like, you know,

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the tongues, like I just always, I always just think of when we were doing that, when we were,

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you know, asking for the Holy spirit to come and fill us in the show, sort of gift.

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I think we were in the sanctuary doing a prayer circle and laying hands and I'm sitting there

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or sitting there and everything hands on me. And I think we're doing like a Chinese person,

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we just practice the same time. I was going to make a mic. Oh, I feel like, you know,

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Harry Potter, when he sent a sorting hat and I'm like, I want tongues and what tongues he's like,

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Oh, I want tongues. Hey, you're not slithering, but like, I'm like, tongue, tongue, he's like,

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Hmm, you want tongues? Like, better be visions. It's like, no, you know, like, hey, Dylan, you

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talk too much. Sit there and watch something so you can talk on it. It's the little topper.

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Don't worry, Dylan, just you don't need to focus on this gift first. Right. I was like, man.

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Okay, fine. No, no, but you know, I think about and

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and then I show there was some of my kids at Easter where they were like, Oh, yeah,

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I've spoken in tongues. They said that. And I go, yeah, I've experienced that when I was little.

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I'm like, really? I'm like, yeah, like, when I was like seven, I used to do that. Like,

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you sure you wasn't gibberish? They're like, no, that's my grandma. I'm like, Oh, shoot. Okay.

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And then I had their grant, you know, like grandma phone going telling like they were at dinner and

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they were just asking about the, you know, like the gifts and I want to be able to speak in tongues

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again. I want to experience that. I'm like, dude, yes. I'm like, do listen to me because

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junior higher, sometimes you don't know.

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That's just the least. Yeah, I will add in because this is something that's also debated amongst a

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lot of Christians, mostly charismatic and Pentecostal pushes a lot and talk about this a lot,

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but the idea of tongues, anytime the Bible refers to the spirit of tongues, specifically that one,

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it talks about speaking in other languages that are heard by others around. They're like,

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Hey, that's my language. Hey, that's my language. Hey, that's my language.

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And that's, that's one of the things that it talks about. And, uh, you know,

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in from what I'm seeing a lot is that there's a lot of mockery of it. Obviously I don't,

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I don't think you do this at all, but, um, there's a mockery of it where people are just like,

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yeah, it's like, I'm like, what was that? That was not any language period. Like you're just making

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noises to, that's not a language. That's some like Swahili African click language, like,

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or something out there. Yeah. There's like, that's not what the spirit brings. Like the

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spirit brings clarity. The spirit brings, uh, joy. It brings wisdom. It brings knowledge and

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just making random noises is not that, and it's not evident in the Bible that it's just,

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that it's just gibberish. It's always evident that that specific one is legitimately like

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speaking in other languages and people can understand that you're speaking that. Um,

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that's just something to keep in mind. Just from a biblical, biblical perspective,

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it's always referenced with actual language, um, that people can understand.

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Yeah. Like, um, when I used to be at full gospel, when I was pastoring there, there's this amazing

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old woman, uh, Mama Ha and she speaks in tongues and it's fellow, she is shouting words. I don't

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know what she was, you know, like, she, well, I mean, I would, I get a interpretation through

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the vision. If I get a vision, like kind of what she was saying, I didn't know like what this,

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what was being said was this. And it's like, it's one of those things where like, man, like,

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and she wouldn't do like that little clickety click click thing. She would be speaking.

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And it's really, you hear it sometimes like, Ooh, I'm like, like when I hear tongues, I don't know

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what it is. Like it's, I know what it is. It's the Holy spirit. I just get hit with it.

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And I think it's the whole thing.

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Cause there's a difference between making noises and like experiencing the actual

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spirit of God through that. Like there's a difference and you could tell the

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difference. It's really evident.

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Yeah. And it's, you know, I read this and that's like,

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only way I think I'll have discernment in the spirit. I'm like, Oh, I didn't feel that when

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they were speaking tongues, they're just making it up. The sense is like, you know, what like,

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it sounds like they're breaking into the lion King. No, it's like, no, you're gonna be speaking

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tongues. No, that's not it. Just singing a Disney song. Yeah. So I got a question for you because

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I have verses to back this up already, but I wanted to see what you have on this.

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Cause you know me, I always like, as soon as you said what were topic was, I was like, I'm on it.

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Yeah, I know you were, I know you were, I know I had them somewhere.

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Probably in my, in my, uh, in the youth room at church.

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Well, here's the question then why is it, why is it important to know about the Holy

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spirit? Why is it important to understand it?

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Well, that's very why it's okay. That's very simple because if you don't know God is wanting

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to know God, it's one thing to believe in God. It's one thing then to see God in the field. God,

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it's, it's because there's a Trinity, there's a three in one Godhead that we believe in.

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So, and if you take away one of those, like first was the triangle, it's the strongest

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shape there is because it has three sides that lean in on each other. It's the best way I can

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put it. You remove the Holy spirit, you remove one of like the basic is the one of the building

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blocks for Christianity. If you move that, you remove the Holy spirit. You remove the

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Holy spirit, then everything else crumbles with it. Because yes, Jesus is the way you have to

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accept, believe and confess, but you have to have works. You know, God says, son, God gave us, you

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know, allowed for Jesus to come to give us the Holy spirit. Like if we don't have that, then we're

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totally, the full potential of our, our walk with Christ is missed.

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Okay. So touch up on your thing too, cause that's actually pretty good.

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Because you made a reference. Yeah, you made a reference, but I'll bring that up, but a good

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point to this. I just made a reference. Wonder where it's from.

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We're going to give you, that's perfect. I love, I love that. That was perfect.

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Oh, that's good. I love that. So, um, here's something to think about. This is Roman,

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Romans eight, uh, verse nine Romans, I'll give the context. Romans eight, one to 11. Um, it's

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actually begins with an enormous declaration about the grace of God, which is awesome that there,

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there's no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. And after describing how this is possible, uh,

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thanks to life and death of Jesus, Paul compares two kinds of life, one life in the Holy spirit.

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And for those who are in Christ and the other life live according to the flesh, those in the

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flesh, meaning non-Christian or people who are hostile to God and, uh, Christians have the

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spirit. Those who do not are not Christians. So, and to back that up Romans eight, nine, it actually

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says, uh, you, however, are not in the flesh, but in the spirit if needed, if indeed the spirit of

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God lives in you, if anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him.

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And it's this whole context is that decoration. And to even further back this point, this is

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referencing Galatians five, which I've referenced a couple of times already. And Galatians five is

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sometimes called, uh, I don't know if you've heard this, but a short Romans, cause it has a similar

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theme and, uh, of justification and sanctification through faith. But, um, with this section, you can

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see like in, uh, in verse, uh, 16, where it says, I say, then walk by the spirit and you'll certainly

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not carry out the desires of the flesh. And it goes to talk about the desires of the flesh.

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And then, um, it goes into verse 22, where it says, if you have the fruit of the spirit or you

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have the Holy spirit, you'll bear fruit. Right. And you mentioned the idea of works, which you

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mentioned James too. So you brought up James too, in this one, but you brought it to James this time.

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You did because James,

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right here we are. Cause James too, it's 14 through 20, uh, yeah. 14 through 20, where it talks about,

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if he has faith, but does not have works, that whole section, um, can face save them or if he

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does works, but doesn't have faith, et cetera. But the thing is, is that here it's making a very

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important distinction in Romans eight and Galatians five is that when you accept Christ,

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you are gifted the Holy spirit, which we talked about the gifts. And then with the gift of the

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Holy spirit, you are, um, strengthened to walk by the spirit and, and you are then bearing fruits of

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the spirit, right? Which fruits are in any metaphorical term in the Bible is talking about,

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roots of your labor, anything like that. Like what you, what you sow, what you, what you put out

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there and what people experience around you. And this is really important because this shows that

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it's not just faith by itself or works by itself, but faith in Jesus Christ gifts the Holy spirit.

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And the Holy spirit then brings fruit in your life. That's prosperous. And those fruits are very easy

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to see, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,

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and self-control. And it even says to go as far to say that, um, if, if you're not displaying those

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things, then you are not of the spirit that you are of the flesh because you cannot be both.

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Is not a watermelon.

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Ooh, I wish. And then in the sense of like, Oh, I guess you could say it is because it is refreshing.

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Well, okay. When shopping for watermelon, you want to see white stripes and you want to,

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you want to have it any, no avi with the stem. It'd be more sweet.

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Yeah. Yeah, there you go.

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Compliments of the old lady had Vons through totally crazy. And I, and I like it. Okay. I

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didn't, my parents were told this. We went over and had dinner with them and my dad's like,

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it's already told us this. I'm like, Oh really? And, uh, well that was one of the sweetest

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watermelons we ever had. So just knowledge. Yeah. This is sweet.

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So just, yeah, I don't know why I said watermelon. That's why I just had to go as much of that kid

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Sunday school song. The spirits not a watermelon, but yeah.

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This reminds me, uh, not the watermelon part, but the, the, the whole idea of the Holy Spirit.

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I love this because in Luke 11, if you don't know, that's like the story of,

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it's referred to as the travel log to Jerusalem. Um, where the, the, the, the,

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the section, the major part of this is that it's on the blessings and responsibilities of following

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Jesus because following him, we have a set of standard responsibilities to live by and to do.

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And what's really cool is that it talks about specifically 13, which I'll read it and how God

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is good and he will answer our prayers because he loves us. It's all, it's the foundation to

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Matthew seven through 11. Um, with Luke 11, 13, it says that if you then who are evil,

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know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly father give

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the Holy Spirit to those who ask him because it's a gift. Parents don't feature, it wouldn't feed

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your kids scorpions. Yeah. That's 11. That's 11 and 12 where it talks about a father amongst you who

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is the kids like, can I have a fish and you give them a snake? And he's like, can I,

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can I have an egg and you throw them a scorpion? Like,

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Hey, look at me.

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Knowing stuff.

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Yeah. That, that is, that's the pretext to this. Yeah. So I, I thought, I thought that was good

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to bring in because it's like, what do we do to get this? Because I was kind of part of the

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question was like, what's the importance of knowing this and why, and it's because our,

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when we accept Christ, we ask for the spirit.

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You've got to have my water on my fire.

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Right. Right. Exactly.

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Isn't it, isn't it, if I can say that correctly, isn't it in John 14, 16, where it says, and I

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will ask the father and he will give you another counselor to be with you forever. Counselor is

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used as advocate, comforter, helper. It was a multipurpose role that was given in a positive way,

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but that verse was relative to bringing in insane, like to ask is really, it's a personal way. It's

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not just like a, because in, in the new Testament, there was a lot of references to ask and it was

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more of like a command, like a, like a servant was trying to ask a master something or if a fathery

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figure or a parental figure, it's like, can you ask for this? But in this instance, it's a very

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personal ask, like a mutual ask. And it's very, it's a very personal request implies that Jesus

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shares a relationship with God, which transcends mere humanity can. And so it just reinforces the

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idea that prayer is not intended to blindly grant us our wishes, but it's a very personal

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request. It's that the Holy spirit is there to strengthen us advocate and be a counselor

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and help us through. Right. So now I just reminded me of that as well, because you know,

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reminders on reminders book reference book. Yeah.

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Yeah. There's so many things. I just, I just, gosh, it's like, you know, at some point, okay.

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I know this is kind of off topic, but at some point, because I'm thinking, huh. So are we ever

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on topic? Oh yeah. I mean, to a degree, but I mean, it is, I, I, I'm going to have to try it next

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time we record because I want to see how well this works, but because there's a lot of, obviously

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a lot of people talk about AI and stuff like that. And there's really helpful. AIs are just

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informative, like chat GPT. And I'm more curious to like, if you go on there and type in, does this

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verse from this translation of the Bible reference another verse, it will put it together for you or

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not. Yeah. What is it? Yeah. All this new AI stuff, man. I just thought it was funny anyways, but

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that just made me think of that because like you got the, if you go to like the CSB Bible, a

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Christian standard Bible, if you have the study version, you can open it up and it will have little

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footnotes for every single verse and tell you which ones it's referencing old Testament, new

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Testament, other scripture that was written before, because it's the book, the Bible reference

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itself, like 60,000 plus times. So it's insane amount of referencing. Right. And so when like,

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the verse I just read, John 14, 16 references, let me open up this book real quick. I got a study

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Bible. So Romans eight 26. So Romans eight 26, which it's in the same way, the spirit also helps

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us in our weakness because we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the spirit himself

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intercedes for us when expressible groanings. I don't know if you know Romans chapter eight,

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but it talks about like, if you, when you're suffering, when you're at your lowest, when

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you're at like the most depressed, like it just at rock bottom, basically, it is talking about

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the spirit helps us in that time of the weakness to pray what we ought and intercede for us with

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groanings that we can't even express in words because we're reaching out to God because of

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what's going on. And this just goes to show that the Holy spirit is not just some Jeannie or not

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just some random gift of I can jibber jabber all day long, jib, jib, jib, jib, but it's, it's,

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it's there to assist, to grow, to strengthen, to comfort and to then bring that joy, that love and

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that peace to others around you through the gifting to the Holy spirit. And that's a really

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important distinction that a lot of people lose because they focus on the miracles and stuff like

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that. Because, you know, it's, I, you know, like you said, they're kind of the show body ones,

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like things like that, but it's also important for the other gifts to be highlighted because those

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are the ones that a sense of, I mean, laid the foundation for everything else because, you know,

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you know, they can speak in tongues. It's like, Oh, I feel like another one's huge is the

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discernment, but you know, it's not flashes. It's talking about like to have the discerning

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thing in the spirit. Like, like my fiance, she has that gift and, you know, she like,

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they're not a good person. Like, you know, like, like I just got the vibe. Like they're not like,

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discernment. Yeah. That discernment is crazy. We're getting like major, major thunder and now

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it's dope. I thought that was what that sound was. I heard, I heard like a rumble and I was like,

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was that here? And it's thunder through your mic. That's pretty cool.

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It is. I just saw that. That was like, Oh, that's brand new. Oh, it's with the whole house.

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That's so cool. We don't get that really here.

386
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No, no, you don't.

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Over in Arizona, maybe, but not here.

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But, uh, just to kind of touch up on what you just said.

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Yeah, sorry. Yeah.

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No, no, you're good. You're good. Well, yeah, I bet I would be too. Um,

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and, uh, there was like, this is a good point because there's like, some people seek after

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the signs and wonders because they're curious. There's like, there's like, there's like,

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there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like,

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oh, that's so cool. And they're focusing on that rather than what it's supposed to bring,

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which is, you know, the, the show that Jesus is real, that what he says is what he is.

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And, um, the importance of the Holy Spirit and what the actual, that it's alive and well.

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And, uh, this is the living God, right? The true living God. And that's the whole point

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whole point of that and I think it was Luke think so isn't it isn't it Luke 23

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I think it's 23 let me double check I got I got references 238 I think it's 23

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eight see oh yeah it was it was when Herod saw Jesus and he was all excited

401
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and he was like oh I've been wanting to see you I've heard about you he's like

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show me some signs I want to see some perform and it was like hmm yeah

403
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basically he was like oh you and he was thinking of him as like an entertainer

404
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you do these things show me I want to see and it's like you missed the point

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that's not why I'm here

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and that that's just something I want to bring up it's just like it don't don't

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look at the don't focus on the things that happen but the one that created

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them that caused them or brought them and that was something that I remember

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when I was younger like 1920 which like 10 11 years ago I remember going to

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I know it's been a while but I remember like seeing going to like events and

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seeing people that you know didn't have an arm and people prayed for them and an

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arm grew out of their side and stuff like that and it's some of the most

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intense crazy stuff to see but at the same time it was very easy to get

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distracted and be like well that's just cool I want to I want to do tricks I

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want to you toy you're right I want that toy like I want to be able to do that

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and it's like that wasn't the point and I learned very quickly that you know

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when stuff like that happens it's a praise God thank God and and you know

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and just be able to continue on and say look God's real I've seen them work I

419
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seen his his Holy Spirit move in people I've seen it work like him do things in

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everyday life and help me and comfort me and strengthen me and we share that with

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other people and just show them like hey like if you're if you're having those

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days and stuff the Holy Spirit's gifted to us to help us through and to

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strengthen us and to comfort us during those times and it's really to glorify

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God and to give be the fullness of what we are to be under what God wants us to

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be and that's really important distinction there because a lot of

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people are just like oh yeah Holy Spirit yeah it's a it's a it's a genie the

427
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magic genie you can do anything with it it's like no that's not true

428
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it's just yeah it just yeah it just comes down to the grace of God and and

429
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understanding that we accept Jesus Christ in our life he we're gifted the

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Holy Spirit and we need to understand what the Holy Spirit is so we're not

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deceived because it says to test the spirit right test the spirits and so

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we're not deceived we can we can test it against the Word of God which is what I

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was getting to but reading studying and understanding is really important to

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know that it's the Holy Spirit's not just some all of a sudden I'm going to shut

435
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the top or something like that on stage in front of everybody it's not just that

436
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it's speaking in other languages clearly because the Holy Spirit is speaking to

437
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people around them and talking and using you as a mouthpiece and it's not just

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some random gibberish it's never been defined that in the Bible and that's

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just one of the spirit fruits of spirit so it's like understand what the fruits

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of the spirit are understand what the gifts of the Holy Spirit are so that way

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you're better equipped to understand what they are so that you're not

442
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deceived by false spirits or false teachers or false prophets study study

443
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study read read read get a better understanding of what is going on

444
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basically is my my two takes from this

445
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yeah I mean I those are some solid takeaways I think that's I mean I'm pretty

446
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much for the same way you do when it comes to that good good yeah yeah it's

447
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just yeah I mean like I said earlier I just keep thinking about that focusing

448
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on I don't know why but just as an eternity you know having those three

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pillars basically got the following son and the Holy Spirit like you know God

450
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God was the Creator he's on the you know did everything the Sun came down to

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slash to save us we were given gifts to the Holy Spirit

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next time on the gospel truth project we're talking about the Trinity I mean

453
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why not I mean I have I have an idea next next next next recordings my turn

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and I have an idea it's not just a PT by the way it's not okay good yeah well do

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you have anything else that you want to talk about the Holy Spirit um I think

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that covers it I I'll mention because I know that this this episode I know when

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this is coming out and you mean we'll talk about it after but I think something

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to expect is if you are listening to this episode we'll have notes references

459
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and stuff that we've talked about in this episode as a blog on the website

460
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that you can open up and you can read it follow along with and you know just kind

461
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of be a part and be able to read it and I'm still deciding whether I want to I

462
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mean I had to talk with you about it if we want to have comments on but you

463
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never know we might have like share buttons where you can share it to your

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media easily and stuff like that but yeah it's just being coming more

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interactive and more sort of for people to read it if they want to read it or

466
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yeah it's just something cool that I think we are going to start doing as

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well

468
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yeah it's really good yeah just you know just you know transparency with the notes

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who can see you know what we're saying exactly words that they can you know

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like they follow along or they can even you know keep us on our toes like hey

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you know this is what it says there but you know and get your inputs comments I

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mean I like to have comments available but then this people that would just

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come on sometimes just the post you know nasty things and like we've had happen

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before at least this would bought block photos and this would block a scene if

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it's anything you know positive for you know a critique in a positive way then

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go for it but if it's the other thing is this negative there's a lot of people

477
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out there that don't want to see God's work being done you know a thing or two

478
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we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two something like that

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just because we've seen people right because we have a discord server for a

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gospel choose project that people can jump on and people have definitely tried

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to come in there and wreak havoc and it's just like why too kosher that's not

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kosher so yeah yeah no it's all good we definitely you know we give a website to

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check check out that social media is to be posted there as well did did we share

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the link what it's called I don't remember gospel truth it's freaking I

485
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click drop button gospel truth project calm super easy yeah easy lemon squeezy

486
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yeah go ahead checked it out member we do have remerged it's up we'll be

487
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getting to that a bit more right now we have what we have just yeah remember

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that that money that you spend is going to help and that this one this in these

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pocket mm-hmm exactly if you know this is your this is your episode this is

490
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your turn to shine my friend oh is it okay okay well I'm gonna have some

491
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thunder right here so I'm gonna meet myself perfect

492
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and he muted himself because of thunder and I just totally just not realized that

493
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that's what he just said I'm sure he heard the lightning strike and then was

494
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like oh yeah I need to mute this because the Thunder is going to be roaring first

495
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off you can't hear lightning you see lightning you hear a thunder you can hear

496
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lightning hold on hold on you can hear lightning because lightning goes like a

497
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whip if it's close enough okay you know I haven't like close I'll take your word

498
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for it maybe that's just the Thunder and really

499
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close to since okay anyways you go for it I'm done I don't know if you can leave

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that in the podcast or where you're doing it but it's staying we need to do

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a real fantastic okay well dear Heavenly Father I thank you for this time that

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we've got to spend in the word talking about the Holy Spirit Lord and I pray

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for every single one who is listen to our podcast who has been listening to it

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who might have stumbled across this episode Lord that you would work in

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their life they would not be the same as when they first listen to this Lord that

506
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you would fill them with the Holy Spirit that they would grow in their walk with

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you Lord and their understanding of your word

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thank you Lord for allowing us to be able to do this and that's being able to

509
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talk about your amazing this and know everything you haven't done I pray this

510
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in your glorious name amen amen awesome well yeah tune in the next time when I

511
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host the next episode and I'm gonna be don't worry I will be giving you a heads

512
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up for topic so that we can work this out correctly it's fine yeah well thank

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you really for listening till next time

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bye