Welcome to the Gospel Truth Podcast. I'm your host Dylan and my co-host. I'm Jason. Today
we're going to be talking about the Holy Spirit, the Holy Ghost. Woo. Woo. Exciting stuff here.
Jason, how you been? I've actually been doing really good. And like, you know, from the last
time we recorded, I talked about working on the website and I finished it finally. Yeah,
we even got some merch up there, I believe as well. Yeah. So I actually put it on the website
down our mission and we have a donation thing and merch store and a get involved thing. So people
who want to donate, there's 75% of donations go to charity, others goes, other 25% goes to
operational costs for the project and everything. Merch store, again, same thing, 75% goes to
charity, 25% actually goes to our operational costs and anything that we we do on our podcast
side. And then we have a get involved side of things where you can get involved with an outreach
team, be a guest on the podcast or topics or questions to throw at us so that we can discuss
them on the podcast itself. Yeah, I think we're still talking about where we want the donations
to go. I think my main thing I always I always have a thing for ever since Jason, we were to
AT&T and we started doing stuff with the Ferris Foundation and childhood cancer. I know that's a
that's a big thing for me. My dad is the same way because my dad's beat three different types of
cancer and he's like, I could not imagine being a kid in great through this. So I think that's
where I like to see a good chunk of our money going to because that's important. And then I
noticed like feeding America and stuff like that. So there's definitely options and where we want
to see that money go to, you know, I mean, that'd be a lot right now, already with the bring in,
but we still want to help support that because there are people that are, you know, they're
going through it and they could use a blessing. This is not a way for us to make money. Like
Jason said, it's basically just to do that for charity purposes. And then just for us to just
operations and run. Keep it going. Yeah, and it's, it's really cool too, because like how you
mentioned is that what I have a blog page on here on the website and the blog page is going to have
like our podcast like in teach form or in word form. And then on top of that, it's going to have
a section there for I think we're going to do like quarterly donations so that we can save up and
chunk and give it out quarterly. And with that, it's going to say what's done which charity were
given out to for that quarter and kind of give more information about it. And there might be
repeats like Dylan said, like we like, we definitely both kind of go towards more of the
childhood cancer stuff and taking care of the children and what's going on with that whole
front. And yeah, that's that's something that we both really push for. And that will be in the
blog and there will be repeats of it saying we're giving out this quarter, this charity and it
might repeat itself, but it's good to just know where donations and money is going so people can
see that it's it's going somewhere.
Yeah, and I just want to make sure that everyone knows too, I know like, you hear about donations
and where the money goes and only actually like 10% goes to the actual thing and people pocket it.
So we're going to make sure into our due diligence that money is going to actually help what we want
to go help towards or not to be funding money into, you know, to a donation that says, Oh, we, you
know, we help out with feeding, feeding children, and then they give 10% to feeding children and 90%
in their pocket. Right. Yeah, I've seen a lot of stuff in the news and a lot of people talking
about that. So we're going to make sure that our the money is going to the right place as funding
actual things. So that actually helps. And I like this, people spend their money and it go to like
some, some, you know, person's pocket as much a bowl.
Yep, just like I put on there carefully chosen by our research team. And exactly.
So people if they're listening, they also know that that we're taking it serious.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah. So the Holy Spirit, man, um, one of the, you know, three parts of the journey.
Oh, yeah, I I'm really excited about this.
Yeah, I feel so silly because like I'm sitting here like, Oh, man, what do I say you had to talk
about it? I mean, I just taught on this a month ago with, you know,
with the youth group, like, what is the Holy Spirit? And I was like, wait,
Oh, come on. Now I'm like looking for notes and I can't find anything. And I'm like, I'll just have
to speak part, I guess. But you know, I think just the, I think the first thing to talk about is like,
honestly, the beginning of it, the first time, well, the first time it's seen in a multitude,
because they taught it's talked about earlier parts of the Bible and stuff, but the day of Pentecost,
an initial big kind of the coming out the big party for the, for the Holy Spirit, in a sense,
or when it comes down and a fire comes over them and they're speaking tongues, you know,
if you were hearing their languages, like, wait, hold on. Well, that's, that's my language. They're
pressing the, you know, the Lord and you know, and then there's some people that are even mocking
them even there, you know, if you were being mocked for their believing, I think of that.
Like, oh, they're drunk. And then Peter's like, yo, it's nine o'clock. We come on now. We're not
drunk. Why? We're not so drunk from the night before. We are, we are with God. God's presence
is, you know, is in us now. I think that's important because when Jesus died, you know,
the veil was torn. Holy of Holies, what we're talking about, there's a, there's a Holy of
Holies for the Jewish people. There was, it was where God's presence was, the Holy Spirit was,
in a sense. And when Jesus, the thing, the curtain was like, what, four feet, some of that thick.
Like, oh, yeah. And they would have a priest, one of the Levi's, we had to go in there,
you know, to do his priestly duties. And so they go, no, should they pray? You never give
any priestly duties. And they had to go in there and have bells tied to them. Because if they weren't,
you know, cleanses of sins and the right sacrifices and all that, they would drop dead
instantly. And that's a pulling guy out with the rope. Like that's how the presence of God,
how gnarly it is. Like, you know, Moses took off his feet in the presence of the Lord,
and the burning bush, stuff like that. But when Jesus dies, he rips that, but his death,
he rips that curtain. And then the Holy Spirit resides in all of us, which is so gnarly,
I think that it's this powerful thing that we can call upon and use. And it's just there.
That's just, you know, I think it was like that in the sense of how gnarly that is.
Yeah. Yeah, no, I agree.
You just didn't get either there because I keep going.
Well, that's what I do when I'm host, like, hosting the episode. So it's good that you do it too.
Yeah.
I just think, you know, and then just it's the crazy because the Holy Spirit can come in so many
different ways, so many different gifts that it, you know, it feeds us, you know, it gives,
it looks different every single person. Or like some people might have, you know,
very much faithfulness belief, or they just don't know what it is. And so it's just,
faithfulness belief, or they just believe so easily because it just, the Holy Spirit fills up,
they just like a belief. I just believe this is it, God, I know that you're true.
And then some people are like, they have discernment and they're like,
this person, this situation, something's wrong with this. I feel wrong. Something's wrong in the
spirit. You know, and then they have, you know, the show boats, the visions and tongues and,
you know, interpretation and healing. There's just so many gifts that the Holy Spirit has.
It's really the Swiss army knife.
Oh, there you are. Well, I lost you for a second there.
What did we really?
That's okay. I can cut it and paste.
What? I was on a beautiful rant.
I know. And they cut you out.
So as I was saying, where was I left off before I was talking?
You said it was a beautiful thing. You said that they can show up different ways for different
people.
Yeah. And then I went on, I was talking about, it can be, you know, spirit of faithfulness of just
being able to believe and then of discernment and being able to, you know, decide this, this
discernment in like the spirit, whether things are good or you can get reads on people and
healing and tongues, the more show body, you know, ones and visions, interpretations and visions
and tongues and stuff like that.
And healing, like, and those are things that we've all seen, like, well, I mean, we've all like,
just, I'd say like, you know, you and me have like, especially growing up, you know, at San
Maria vineyard, and we were there as kids, like learning that just experiencing that holy spirit
presence. We just have meetings or we would just pray for that.
And just, you know, that's where I learned my spiritual gift and I got it.
Got it.
Yeah. Well, maybe I could bring in some context to what you're talking about here.
Yeah.
So listening to the spiritual gifts is actually in first Corinthians 12, eight through 10, where
it mentions the gifts. It also is comparable to Ephesians four, seven to 13, Isaiah 11, two to
three, and Romans 12, three to eight. The gifts of the spirit are simply God empowering faithful
Christians to do what he has called us to do for the greater of his spirit.
Which it talks about that in second Peter one, three, where it says his divine power has given
us everything we need for life and godliness through our knowledge of him who called us by his own
glory and goodness. I guess the Holy Spirit are part of everything we need to accomplish his plan
for our lives. What you said is that it can show up at different people differently.
Romans 12, six actually explains that in the book of Romans, which is the first chapter of the book
of six actually explains that pretty well. When Paul says we have different gifts according to
the grace given to us, let us use them in proportion to our faith. The gifts are actually listed in the
Bible with those references I made. You got the gift of wisdom, the gift of faith, gift of healing,
gift of miracles, gift of prophecy, gift of discerning spirits, the gift of tongues,
the gift of interpreting tongues, the gift of administration and the gift of helps,
which that one is just the capacity to always help others and do whatever it takes to achieve that
task. Those are really important understanding of that because you'll see somebody that you're like,
wow, that person is always out there helping people. It does not bug them at all.
And that's like the gift of helping. And there's a lot of different stuff out there. And like we
just said, those are all the gifts of the spirit. So I would say, I don't know if you have the verses
or anything in front of you, but this is a question I've heard before. And the question is,
how do you get this? How does one get involved with the Holy Spirit?
Let's see. Yeah. I've, you know, people ask, how do you get this? I, like I said earlier,
I think I, maybe I didn't say it. Maybe I did. I don't know if I got cut out or not.
We have the, we had the Holy Spirit. So those gifts reside in us.
It's as simple as asking and you shall receive.
Well, some gifts are going to, you know, come easier, just like, you know, if you go and you
play sports or something, some sports come very easily. Like, you know, you go put me out there
on a, you know, on a tennis court, I'm going to, oh, I'm going to suck. I'm going to do miserable.
I'm going to do miserable. You know, I think I know a lot more than what I'm doing out there.
You know, coaching basketball, playing basketball. I like basketball. I know the sport.
Yeah. And then I think you put me out there and do track and field. And I think I,
I think I know what I'm doing out there too, but you know, maybe not,
you know, but it's like those things, those like, I think football track and field, those came so
easy to me compared to like when we did like P E and high school. So high school Jason was the same
when you went to school and you were older. You can see we're homeschooled basically.
But no, like that was one of those things like you were, you were, you were, you were,
that was one of those things like you did P units. Like, you know, I was actually like,
we played the cross and P it was like, that was a great, that left for us. I don't know if
everybody else sucked or I was just, I was just big enough to block the goal.
You know, but then like we go do like bad bit and I'm like, this pickleball, like this is stupid.
Um, you know, but that's like the same with the Holy Spirit.
You have things that you're going to be better at things like for me, visions, like I think I
have a crazy imagination. That's probably why God uses that. So I can get an image of it.
And then I found like through this too, it's like, I'm also gonna get my visions.
It's when I hear tongues and I get like a vision that interprets the tongue. I don't know if that's
all legit, but I feel like that's what it is. Well, here's something to think about.
Have you, have you, because I know you've been talking about the Holy Spirit with your youth
group and stuff like that in general, have you, uh, gone to first Corinthians one by chance at all
Corinthians one.
Yeah. I want to say I can't, like I said, I can't find my notes. So, um,
Oh, that makes sense.
Yeah. No, I know. I definitely, I know it has some points where I still can't find my notes.
No, I definitely, I know it has some points where I said I talked about the Corinthians.
Um,
Okay.
So the, the reason I bring it up is because in, in first Corinthians one, it's four through nine
is the context where it's, uh, about God's grace to the Corinthians and the believers there. But
before beginning to address the problems in that church or in the church in general, um,
Paul actually declares his thanks to God for the people. Right. And he actually is thankful
for God's grace and the good gifts, the spirit that God has given to him. And the gifts confirm
that the Corinthians are truly in Christ. Because again, we can, we can always talk about
Colossians five. That's all, that's a whole thing, but, uh, this means that Christ will sustain,
sustain them all the ways to the end. Like I just said in the previous verses,
this is the standard Christian life or Christian walk in, in Christ. And, um, in verse one,
uh, or chapter one, verse seven, it says, uh, this is read the verse before. Um, it starts in,
like I said, it starts in four, but just to give you an idea, verse seven, it says,
so that you are not lacking in any gift as you wait for the revealing of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Right. And, um, this is really cool because Paul wrote this in the previous verse and verse,
actually in verse five, he wrote that by God's grace, the believers of Corinth had been enriched
in all speech and all knowledge, um, that this might actually have a, like a reference to unique
spiritual gifts, maybe like speaking in tongues or something like that. But, um, he adds that
he adds that they're not lacking in any gift. Uh, in other words, like he's talking about how God
has fully equipped the Corinthian Christians there with everything they need to lead to their lives.
He, like Jesus is calling them to. And, um, I think that that's really important that
part of this is that the Holy spirit brings knowledge and brings
more to it. And the more that you connect with God, the more you go to God, the more that you study,
um, which Galatians five again, we'll talk about that a little bit more, but, um, it's just
interesting that this verse acknowledges that it's possible to have, um, like any of the gifts
and multiple, it's not just like, Oh, you're just gifted one. Okay. Don't try for the others.
Yeah, no. I, yeah. Like we were talking about that. You know, it's like only limit you have on your
gifts is on what you put them on, you know, like anybody can heal anybody, you know, can have
visions. Anybody can speak in tongues, interpret the tongues. Like, you know, it's like, you know,
the tongues, like I just always, I always just think of when we were doing that, when we were,
you know, asking for the Holy spirit to come and fill us in the show, sort of gift.
I think we were in the sanctuary doing a prayer circle and laying hands and I'm sitting there
or sitting there and everything hands on me. And I think we're doing like a Chinese person,
we just practice the same time. I was going to make a mic. Oh, I feel like, you know,
Harry Potter, when he sent a sorting hat and I'm like, I want tongues and what tongues he's like,
Oh, I want tongues. Hey, you're not slithering, but like, I'm like, tongue, tongue, he's like,
Hmm, you want tongues? Like, better be visions. It's like, no, you know, like, hey, Dylan, you
talk too much. Sit there and watch something so you can talk on it. It's the little topper.
Don't worry, Dylan, just you don't need to focus on this gift first. Right. I was like, man.
Okay, fine. No, no, but you know, I think about and
and then I show there was some of my kids at Easter where they were like, Oh, yeah,
I've spoken in tongues. They said that. And I go, yeah, I've experienced that when I was little.
I'm like, really? I'm like, yeah, like, when I was like seven, I used to do that. Like,
you sure you wasn't gibberish? They're like, no, that's my grandma. I'm like, Oh, shoot. Okay.
And then I had their grant, you know, like grandma phone going telling like they were at dinner and
they were just asking about the, you know, like the gifts and I want to be able to speak in tongues
again. I want to experience that. I'm like, dude, yes. I'm like, do listen to me because
junior higher, sometimes you don't know.
That's just the least. Yeah, I will add in because this is something that's also debated amongst a
lot of Christians, mostly charismatic and Pentecostal pushes a lot and talk about this a lot,
but the idea of tongues, anytime the Bible refers to the spirit of tongues, specifically that one,
it talks about speaking in other languages that are heard by others around. They're like,
Hey, that's my language. Hey, that's my language. Hey, that's my language.
And that's, that's one of the things that it talks about. And, uh, you know,
in from what I'm seeing a lot is that there's a lot of mockery of it. Obviously I don't,
I don't think you do this at all, but, um, there's a mockery of it where people are just like,
yeah, it's like, I'm like, what was that? That was not any language period. Like you're just making
noises to, that's not a language. That's some like Swahili African click language, like,
or something out there. Yeah. There's like, that's not what the spirit brings. Like the
spirit brings clarity. The spirit brings, uh, joy. It brings wisdom. It brings knowledge and
just making random noises is not that, and it's not evident in the Bible that it's just,
that it's just gibberish. It's always evident that that specific one is legitimately like
speaking in other languages and people can understand that you're speaking that. Um,
that's just something to keep in mind. Just from a biblical, biblical perspective,
it's always referenced with actual language, um, that people can understand.
Yeah. Like, um, when I used to be at full gospel, when I was pastoring there, there's this amazing
old woman, uh, Mama Ha and she speaks in tongues and it's fellow, she is shouting words. I don't
know what she was, you know, like, she, well, I mean, I would, I get a interpretation through
the vision. If I get a vision, like kind of what she was saying, I didn't know like what this,
what was being said was this. And it's like, it's one of those things where like, man, like,
and she wouldn't do like that little clickety click click thing. She would be speaking.
And it's really, you hear it sometimes like, Ooh, I'm like, like when I hear tongues, I don't know
what it is. Like it's, I know what it is. It's the Holy spirit. I just get hit with it.
And I think it's the whole thing.
Cause there's a difference between making noises and like experiencing the actual
spirit of God through that. Like there's a difference and you could tell the
difference. It's really evident.
Yeah. And it's, you know, I read this and that's like,
only way I think I'll have discernment in the spirit. I'm like, Oh, I didn't feel that when
they were speaking tongues, they're just making it up. The sense is like, you know, what like,
it sounds like they're breaking into the lion King. No, it's like, no, you're gonna be speaking
tongues. No, that's not it. Just singing a Disney song. Yeah. So I got a question for you because
I have verses to back this up already, but I wanted to see what you have on this.
Cause you know me, I always like, as soon as you said what were topic was, I was like, I'm on it.
Yeah, I know you were, I know you were, I know I had them somewhere.
Probably in my, in my, uh, in the youth room at church.
Well, here's the question then why is it, why is it important to know about the Holy
spirit? Why is it important to understand it?
Well, that's very why it's okay. That's very simple because if you don't know God is wanting
to know God, it's one thing to believe in God. It's one thing then to see God in the field. God,
it's, it's because there's a Trinity, there's a three in one Godhead that we believe in.
So, and if you take away one of those, like first was the triangle, it's the strongest
shape there is because it has three sides that lean in on each other. It's the best way I can
put it. You remove the Holy spirit, you remove one of like the basic is the one of the building
blocks for Christianity. If you move that, you remove the Holy spirit. You remove the
Holy spirit, then everything else crumbles with it. Because yes, Jesus is the way you have to
accept, believe and confess, but you have to have works. You know, God says, son, God gave us, you
know, allowed for Jesus to come to give us the Holy spirit. Like if we don't have that, then we're
totally, the full potential of our, our walk with Christ is missed.
Okay. So touch up on your thing too, cause that's actually pretty good.
Because you made a reference. Yeah, you made a reference, but I'll bring that up, but a good
point to this. I just made a reference. Wonder where it's from.
We're going to give you, that's perfect. I love, I love that. That was perfect.
Oh, that's good. I love that. So, um, here's something to think about. This is Roman,
Romans eight, uh, verse nine Romans, I'll give the context. Romans eight, one to 11. Um, it's
actually begins with an enormous declaration about the grace of God, which is awesome that there,
there's no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. And after describing how this is possible, uh,
thanks to life and death of Jesus, Paul compares two kinds of life, one life in the Holy spirit.
And for those who are in Christ and the other life live according to the flesh, those in the
flesh, meaning non-Christian or people who are hostile to God and, uh, Christians have the
spirit. Those who do not are not Christians. So, and to back that up Romans eight, nine, it actually
says, uh, you, however, are not in the flesh, but in the spirit if needed, if indeed the spirit of
God lives in you, if anyone does not have the spirit of Christ, he does not belong to him.
And it's this whole context is that decoration. And to even further back this point, this is
referencing Galatians five, which I've referenced a couple of times already. And Galatians five is
sometimes called, uh, I don't know if you've heard this, but a short Romans, cause it has a similar
theme and, uh, of justification and sanctification through faith. But, um, with this section, you can
see like in, uh, in verse, uh, 16, where it says, I say, then walk by the spirit and you'll certainly
not carry out the desires of the flesh. And it goes to talk about the desires of the flesh.
And then, um, it goes into verse 22, where it says, if you have the fruit of the spirit or you
have the Holy spirit, you'll bear fruit. Right. And you mentioned the idea of works, which you
mentioned James too. So you brought up James too, in this one, but you brought it to James this time.
You did because James,
right here we are. Cause James too, it's 14 through 20, uh, yeah. 14 through 20, where it talks about,
if he has faith, but does not have works, that whole section, um, can face save them or if he
does works, but doesn't have faith, et cetera. But the thing is, is that here it's making a very
important distinction in Romans eight and Galatians five is that when you accept Christ,
you are gifted the Holy spirit, which we talked about the gifts. And then with the gift of the
Holy spirit, you are, um, strengthened to walk by the spirit and, and you are then bearing fruits of
the spirit, right? Which fruits are in any metaphorical term in the Bible is talking about,
roots of your labor, anything like that. Like what you, what you sow, what you, what you put out
there and what people experience around you. And this is really important because this shows that
it's not just faith by itself or works by itself, but faith in Jesus Christ gifts the Holy spirit.
And the Holy spirit then brings fruit in your life. That's prosperous. And those fruits are very easy
to see, which is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness,
and self-control. And it even says to go as far to say that, um, if, if you're not displaying those
things, then you are not of the spirit that you are of the flesh because you cannot be both.
Is not a watermelon.
Ooh, I wish. And then in the sense of like, Oh, I guess you could say it is because it is refreshing.
Well, okay. When shopping for watermelon, you want to see white stripes and you want to,
you want to have it any, no avi with the stem. It'd be more sweet.
Yeah. Yeah, there you go.
Compliments of the old lady had Vons through totally crazy. And I, and I like it. Okay. I
didn't, my parents were told this. We went over and had dinner with them and my dad's like,
it's already told us this. I'm like, Oh really? And, uh, well that was one of the sweetest
watermelons we ever had. So just knowledge. Yeah. This is sweet.
So just, yeah, I don't know why I said watermelon. That's why I just had to go as much of that kid
Sunday school song. The spirits not a watermelon, but yeah.
This reminds me, uh, not the watermelon part, but the, the, the whole idea of the Holy Spirit.
I love this because in Luke 11, if you don't know, that's like the story of,
it's referred to as the travel log to Jerusalem. Um, where the, the, the, the,
the section, the major part of this is that it's on the blessings and responsibilities of following
Jesus because following him, we have a set of standard responsibilities to live by and to do.
And what's really cool is that it talks about specifically 13, which I'll read it and how God
is good and he will answer our prayers because he loves us. It's all, it's the foundation to
Matthew seven through 11. Um, with Luke 11, 13, it says that if you then who are evil,
know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly father give
the Holy Spirit to those who ask him because it's a gift. Parents don't feature, it wouldn't feed
your kids scorpions. Yeah. That's 11. That's 11 and 12 where it talks about a father amongst you who
is the kids like, can I have a fish and you give them a snake? And he's like, can I,
can I have an egg and you throw them a scorpion? Like,
Hey, look at me.
Knowing stuff.
Yeah. That, that is, that's the pretext to this. Yeah. So I, I thought, I thought that was good
to bring in because it's like, what do we do to get this? Because I was kind of part of the
question was like, what's the importance of knowing this and why, and it's because our,
when we accept Christ, we ask for the spirit.
You've got to have my water on my fire.
Right. Right. Exactly.
Isn't it, isn't it, if I can say that correctly, isn't it in John 14, 16, where it says, and I
will ask the father and he will give you another counselor to be with you forever. Counselor is
used as advocate, comforter, helper. It was a multipurpose role that was given in a positive way,
but that verse was relative to bringing in insane, like to ask is really, it's a personal way. It's
not just like a, because in, in the new Testament, there was a lot of references to ask and it was
more of like a command, like a, like a servant was trying to ask a master something or if a fathery
figure or a parental figure, it's like, can you ask for this? But in this instance, it's a very
personal ask, like a mutual ask. And it's very, it's a very personal request implies that Jesus
shares a relationship with God, which transcends mere humanity can. And so it just reinforces the
idea that prayer is not intended to blindly grant us our wishes, but it's a very personal
request. It's that the Holy spirit is there to strengthen us advocate and be a counselor
and help us through. Right. So now I just reminded me of that as well, because you know,
reminders on reminders book reference book. Yeah.
Yeah. There's so many things. I just, I just, gosh, it's like, you know, at some point, okay.
I know this is kind of off topic, but at some point, because I'm thinking, huh. So are we ever
on topic? Oh yeah. I mean, to a degree, but I mean, it is, I, I, I'm going to have to try it next
time we record because I want to see how well this works, but because there's a lot of, obviously
a lot of people talk about AI and stuff like that. And there's really helpful. AIs are just
informative, like chat GPT. And I'm more curious to like, if you go on there and type in, does this
verse from this translation of the Bible reference another verse, it will put it together for you or
not. Yeah. What is it? Yeah. All this new AI stuff, man. I just thought it was funny anyways, but
that just made me think of that because like you got the, if you go to like the CSB Bible, a
Christian standard Bible, if you have the study version, you can open it up and it will have little
footnotes for every single verse and tell you which ones it's referencing old Testament, new
Testament, other scripture that was written before, because it's the book, the Bible reference
itself, like 60,000 plus times. So it's insane amount of referencing. Right. And so when like,
the verse I just read, John 14, 16 references, let me open up this book real quick. I got a study
Bible. So Romans eight 26. So Romans eight 26, which it's in the same way, the spirit also helps
us in our weakness because we do not know what to pray for as we should, but the spirit himself
intercedes for us when expressible groanings. I don't know if you know Romans chapter eight,
but it talks about like, if you, when you're suffering, when you're at your lowest, when
you're at like the most depressed, like it just at rock bottom, basically, it is talking about
the spirit helps us in that time of the weakness to pray what we ought and intercede for us with
groanings that we can't even express in words because we're reaching out to God because of
what's going on. And this just goes to show that the Holy spirit is not just some Jeannie or not
just some random gift of I can jibber jabber all day long, jib, jib, jib, jib, but it's, it's,
it's there to assist, to grow, to strengthen, to comfort and to then bring that joy, that love and
that peace to others around you through the gifting to the Holy spirit. And that's a really
important distinction that a lot of people lose because they focus on the miracles and stuff like
that. Because, you know, it's, I, you know, like you said, they're kind of the show body ones,
like things like that, but it's also important for the other gifts to be highlighted because those
are the ones that a sense of, I mean, laid the foundation for everything else because, you know,
you know, they can speak in tongues. It's like, Oh, I feel like another one's huge is the
discernment, but you know, it's not flashes. It's talking about like to have the discerning
thing in the spirit. Like, like my fiance, she has that gift and, you know, she like,
they're not a good person. Like, you know, like, like I just got the vibe. Like they're not like,
discernment. Yeah. That discernment is crazy. We're getting like major, major thunder and now
it's dope. I thought that was what that sound was. I heard, I heard like a rumble and I was like,
was that here? And it's thunder through your mic. That's pretty cool.
It is. I just saw that. That was like, Oh, that's brand new. Oh, it's with the whole house.
That's so cool. We don't get that really here.
No, no, you don't.
Over in Arizona, maybe, but not here.
But, uh, just to kind of touch up on what you just said.
Yeah, sorry. Yeah.
No, no, you're good. You're good. Well, yeah, I bet I would be too. Um,
and, uh, there was like, this is a good point because there's like, some people seek after
the signs and wonders because they're curious. There's like, there's like, there's like,
there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like, there's like,
oh, that's so cool. And they're focusing on that rather than what it's supposed to bring,
which is, you know, the, the show that Jesus is real, that what he says is what he is.
And, um, the importance of the Holy Spirit and what the actual, that it's alive and well.
And, uh, this is the living God, right? The true living God. And that's the whole point
whole point of that and I think it was Luke think so isn't it isn't it Luke 23
I think it's 23 let me double check I got I got references 238 I think it's 23
eight see oh yeah it was it was when Herod saw Jesus and he was all excited
and he was like oh I've been wanting to see you I've heard about you he's like
show me some signs I want to see some perform and it was like hmm yeah
basically he was like oh you and he was thinking of him as like an entertainer
you do these things show me I want to see and it's like you missed the point
that's not why I'm here
and that that's just something I want to bring up it's just like it don't don't
look at the don't focus on the things that happen but the one that created
them that caused them or brought them and that was something that I remember
when I was younger like 1920 which like 10 11 years ago I remember going to
I know it's been a while but I remember like seeing going to like events and
seeing people that you know didn't have an arm and people prayed for them and an
arm grew out of their side and stuff like that and it's some of the most
intense crazy stuff to see but at the same time it was very easy to get
distracted and be like well that's just cool I want to I want to do tricks I
want to you toy you're right I want that toy like I want to be able to do that
and it's like that wasn't the point and I learned very quickly that you know
when stuff like that happens it's a praise God thank God and and you know
and just be able to continue on and say look God's real I've seen them work I
seen his his Holy Spirit move in people I've seen it work like him do things in
everyday life and help me and comfort me and strengthen me and we share that with
other people and just show them like hey like if you're if you're having those
days and stuff the Holy Spirit's gifted to us to help us through and to
strengthen us and to comfort us during those times and it's really to glorify
God and to give be the fullness of what we are to be under what God wants us to
be and that's really important distinction there because a lot of
people are just like oh yeah Holy Spirit yeah it's a it's a it's a genie the
magic genie you can do anything with it it's like no that's not true
it's just yeah it just yeah it just comes down to the grace of God and and
understanding that we accept Jesus Christ in our life he we're gifted the
Holy Spirit and we need to understand what the Holy Spirit is so we're not
deceived because it says to test the spirit right test the spirits and so
we're not deceived we can we can test it against the Word of God which is what I
was getting to but reading studying and understanding is really important to
know that it's the Holy Spirit's not just some all of a sudden I'm going to shut
the top or something like that on stage in front of everybody it's not just that
it's speaking in other languages clearly because the Holy Spirit is speaking to
people around them and talking and using you as a mouthpiece and it's not just
some random gibberish it's never been defined that in the Bible and that's
just one of the spirit fruits of spirit so it's like understand what the fruits
of the spirit are understand what the gifts of the Holy Spirit are so that way
you're better equipped to understand what they are so that you're not
deceived by false spirits or false teachers or false prophets study study
study read read read get a better understanding of what is going on
basically is my my two takes from this
yeah I mean I those are some solid takeaways I think that's I mean I'm pretty
much for the same way you do when it comes to that good good yeah yeah it's
just yeah I mean like I said earlier I just keep thinking about that focusing
on I don't know why but just as an eternity you know having those three
pillars basically got the following son and the Holy Spirit like you know God
God was the Creator he's on the you know did everything the Sun came down to
slash to save us we were given gifts to the Holy Spirit
next time on the gospel truth project we're talking about the Trinity I mean
why not I mean I have I have an idea next next next next recordings my turn
and I have an idea it's not just a PT by the way it's not okay good yeah well do
you have anything else that you want to talk about the Holy Spirit um I think
that covers it I I'll mention because I know that this this episode I know when
this is coming out and you mean we'll talk about it after but I think something
to expect is if you are listening to this episode we'll have notes references
and stuff that we've talked about in this episode as a blog on the website
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of be a part and be able to read it and I'm still deciding whether I want to I
mean I had to talk with you about it if we want to have comments on but you
never know we might have like share buttons where you can share it to your
media easily and stuff like that but yeah it's just being coming more
interactive and more sort of for people to read it if they want to read it or
yeah it's just something cool that I think we are going to start doing as
well
yeah it's really good yeah just you know just you know transparency with the notes
who can see you know what we're saying exactly words that they can you know
like they follow along or they can even you know keep us on our toes like hey
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your turn to shine my friend oh is it okay okay well I'm gonna have some
thunder right here so I'm gonna meet myself perfect
and he muted himself because of thunder and I just totally just not realized that
that's what he just said I'm sure he heard the lightning strike and then was
like oh yeah I need to mute this because the Thunder is going to be roaring first
off you can't hear lightning you see lightning you hear a thunder you can hear
lightning hold on hold on you can hear lightning because lightning goes like a
whip if it's close enough okay you know I haven't like close I'll take your word
for it maybe that's just the Thunder and really
close to since okay anyways you go for it I'm done I don't know if you can leave
that in the podcast or where you're doing it but it's staying we need to do
a real fantastic okay well dear Heavenly Father I thank you for this time that
we've got to spend in the word talking about the Holy Spirit Lord and I pray
for every single one who is listen to our podcast who has been listening to it
who might have stumbled across this episode Lord that you would work in
their life they would not be the same as when they first listen to this Lord that
you would fill them with the Holy Spirit that they would grow in their walk with
you Lord and their understanding of your word
thank you Lord for allowing us to be able to do this and that's being able to
talk about your amazing this and know everything you haven't done I pray this
in your glorious name amen amen awesome well yeah tune in the next time when I
host the next episode and I'm gonna be don't worry I will be giving you a heads
up for topic so that we can work this out correctly it's fine yeah well thank
you really for listening till next time
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