Welcome to the Gospel Truth Project Podcast. In this episode, we talk about theories, ideas,
and Christianese. Enjoy.
Welcome to our podcast. I'm Jason.
And I'm Dylan.
And we co-host this podcast together. It's actually been a little bit since we recorded,
but, you know, it's been a little bit of a shame-ad-ly.
Yeah, you know, Christmas, New Year's, you moved, I got a new job. It's all, it's, yeah,
there's a lot going on. So.
Right. Life happens and then time flies and yeah, it's really cool. I really appreciate
everybody who does chime in, listen in, download our podcast. It's awesome to see we have over
10,000 people. I was just really excited to see that people are picking up our podcast.
That's really cool.
Yeah. When he, when you text me that I was like, wait, what? I'm like, like, like 14,000,
like, or 1014. I was like, holy crap. That's like a lot. Really appreciate the downloads
and stuff. Like it shows like, you know, like what we're doing is actually something people
want. So.
Right.
Yeah.
So this will be interesting because we have a lot of stuff coming up. Like one, we're
going to start having more special guests that come on and talk about other topics,
probably a little bit more sensitive or a little bit more, un-talked about subjects.
And then we're actually going to do a live Bible study with a group as well, where we'll
all discuss like a chapter of the Bible together and read through it. So we got a couple of
stuff coming up for this podcast that hopefully people will like to listen in and enjoy and
get something out of it.
Yeah. I'm looking forward to, you know, just the new year and the new stuff we're going
to get going. It's going to be really awesome.
Oh yeah, for sure. I know that with it, it's we're in a season that's kind of interesting
in my opinion, media travels fast. There's a lot more stuff to consume like media wise.
There's tick tocks, there's a Twitter post, there's media news wise, there's all this
different stuff coming out of the woodworks that are constantly, did you know? Like you
didn't know this, you didn't know this. Oh my gosh. And it's, it's growing and it's becoming
more evident that when the Bible talks about false prophets coming within the end times
or just later on, you could see it more prevalent nowadays where people are like, well, that's
not what the Bible really says. Or that's how you interpret the Bible or, you know,
it's interesting, but the Bible itself is truth. And we, and we've talked about the
Bible and authority of the Bible in a previous episode. So go back and listen to it.
Yeah. I mean, it's kind of like that. Like we had talked about on the other episode about
the deconstruction of the Bible and how people were just kind of, you know, well, no, I think
it's this, so I can keep doing what I want to do. No, I disagree with this. And I mean,
it's sad because you know, but it's, it's prophesied that it's going to happen. Like
this could be that there's going to be, you know, a perversion of the word in a sense,
you know, that it's going to be, it's going to be construed the wrong way. Like people
are like, Oh, well, you know, you know, like what we talked about, I was like just seeing
like a Jacob in the color, you know, Joseph, I mean, and there's a colorful, like, Oh,
he was part of the LGBT. It's like, no, no, no, he, he, no, it's like the actual Greek
behind it all too is like more or less probably that he just had long sleeves and it wasn't
a work shirt. So he was seeing favored because he didn't have to work. But you know, like
all those things, like there's, there's, there's reading into the word and taking the roots
of the word and there's just then perversing it to make it fit your agenda. Yeah. The Bible
is truth. You do not have the truth. The Bible has the truth and understanding that you need
to change your foundation to wrap around with the Bible preaches rather than trying to adapt
it to prove your foundation. So that's kind of what needs to be understood about that.
And we've talked about it before. This episode, however, is going to be different because
I want to talk about, you haven't told me what we're going to talk about. You want a
canon experience. I appeared Dylan response. So we'll see how that goes. We might have
14 downloads, 14,000 downloads. This guy's a complete dummy. So this is where it's interesting
because we'll go back and forth because obviously you, you are very present with, um, the youth
in general, where you see a lot of like their Tik TOKs and what they're hearing and they
have questions. Um, and I said this before, I'm in a place to where a lot of people ask
me questions and share stuff with me. What do you think, et cetera. So we're both in
good position for this episode and I think it's going to be interesting and we haven't
done this yet. So, which I just want to make sure we're not talking about selling feet
picks again. Are we? No. Oh, good. Nothing that intense, I guess is a word for it, but
nothing like that. But here's okay. So here's, um, here's something that I wanted to bring
up. Um, so, you know, Genesis, right? Uh, beginning of mankind, right? That's before
Genesis, right? Uh, yeah. So in Genesis, we see the creation of the, of the world, God
created the heavens and earth, et cetera. And, um, we see that for the garden of Eden,
it's talking about, uh, in chapter two, actually verse four on is talking about, um, the garden
and how it was, how men and women were created in the garden, et cetera. The one thing I
wanted to bring up because this is something interesting that someone pointed out to me
and I didn't understand what they were talking about until I started looking into a little
bit more and it's, it's something that's not found the way you didn't understand what they
were talking about. You're hoping I will. No, no, dude, this is, you know, here it goes
guys. Okay. No, no. Okay. I'll say it this way. Uh, it's a little bit better put this
way. It wasn't that I didn't understand what they were talking about. I was like, that's,
that's, that's stupid, but they're like, okay, well, I mean, you can, you can tell me otherwise.
I more than happy. It's not a nice word, Jason. It's not, but I didn't call them stupid. I
was told all the time. I'm told that all the time by a little six, not a nice word. Right,
right. And it's true. And I was, so this is, this is what, what was, uh, interesting. So
in chapter two, verse, uh, five and six, um, well actually start with four because it's
just commas. I'm not going to cut it. So verse four says, uh, these are the records of the
heavens and the earth concerning their creation at the time that the Lord God made the earth
and the heavens. No shrub of the field had yet grown on the land and no plants of the
field had yet sprouted for the Lord. God had not made it rain on the land and there was
no man to work the ground, but mist would come up from the earth and water the ground.
Then the Lord formed the man out of the dust from the ground and breathed the breath of
life into his nostrils. And the man became living being right. Um, it talks about a little
bit later, verse eight, he planted a garden in the East, um, place them in there. Um,
and then he, in verse nine, the Lord caused to grow out of the ground, every tree, pleasing
and appearance and good for food, including the tree of life in the middle of the garden,
as well as the tree of knowledge of good and evil. Right. Um, talks about in verse 10 or
the rivers, uh, actually verse 10 to verse 14, it talks about the different rivers surrounding
the garden, which we know as like, um, uh, you afraid he's in Tigris. Yeah. And so they're
talking about the rivers, et cetera, et cetera. And you keep reading it and he doesn't, you
know how it says right there in verse eight, um, it talks about forming the plants and
everything like that. And verse six, it said mist would come out from the earth and water
all the ground. And then seven, then the Lord man or mist mist. It talks about like water
would come from the ground and water everything. And it was interesting because in verse five,
it says he had not made it, made it rain on the land and there, what, that's not how everything
got watered. So, and immediately after saying that he had, the Lord had not made it rain.
Like, um, it says that in verse five, Lord, God had not made it rain on the land and there
was no man to work the ground. And then immediately in seven, it says the Lord formed man out
of the dust and ground, but it doesn't go on to explain that the rain started. It literally
just talks about that. Did rain start then? Cause I I'm under the conception that some
biblical scholars say that the first time we had rain was Noah. Correct. That's what
I was getting. Okay. So the interesting thing is, is that a lot of scholars who read about
this and study this say that it's important that the Bible notes that in, uh, Genesis
says chapter seven, verse, um, 11 through 13, uh, it says, uh, in the 600th year of
Noah's life and the second month on the 17th day of that month, very specific as it always
is on that day, all sources of the vast watery depths burst open. So let's talk about all
the water under the world, the flood gates of the sea, like in underground. So like the,
you know how a lot of times this is where it kind of mixes with a lot of mythology stuff
that people talk about is where, you know, the journey to the center of the earth or
whatever, you see movies and books talking about, there's more water underneath. There's
other life down there. Um, even recently scientists have been saying like, Hey, we found a lot
of water and there could be life down there that we didn't know about or whatever. Right.
The idea here is that all the water from underneath came up, flooded the whole world and the flood
gates of the sky were opened, which is in verse 11, um, and is referenced many times
in other Bible verses like second Kings seven, 19 Psalm 78, 23. Um, and then the rain fell
on the earth 40 days and 40 nights, which can you imagine once the water and everything
started coming from the sky and the ground, how freaked out people could have been if
this is truly the beginning of what rain was. I know this, I was just like, just thinking
about like the rain we just had, you know, uh, you know, there's flooding, it's all crazy.
People are freaking out. Like you were coming in and calling lows like 11 times before,
you know, it hit like, you know, half an hour of me being there. Is there any sandbags?
We have sandbags. It's like people are getting gutter systems, roofing and everything. And
it's like, you know, people are freaking out. Like I actually eat this, uh, the bridge,
you know, going to Santa it, uh, I had to wait almost 15 minutes to get across it because
people were evacuating the homeless to live underneath the bridge. And people were sitting
there in traffic and watching. I'm like going, Oh, I'm like, okay, help them. But you don't
have to watch them on your driving on the road and the freeway. Like it's moved, but
it's people don't know how to react. Like here in California, we get all that rain.
Well, maybe not, you know, in our part of the central part, but like, you know, up north,
they get plenty of rain. Right. And they're used to it. You guys have more coming. Yeah,
I know. That's what I've been told. Right. So, uh, even, even looking at that where floods
happen a lot of times when it, it pours out and they call it like atmospheric rivers and
stuff like that, like where the water's up there for a while. And then it just low pressure
system comes in and just pushes it and it just pours rain a lot, a lot, a lot of rain.
And um, it's in, it's insane, but like, this is where they're called as atmospheric rivers
and we can see that these are something that can happen. And when you look back at Noah's
day and Genesis and the creation, it wasn't talking about rain happening yet. And, but
instead explained rain hasn't happened and man hasn't happened, but man did happen. But
it was being watered by mist coming from the ground and watering the plants like that because
it was being controlled like that. And then all of a sudden with Noah, you see atmospheric
rivers and rain just pour down and all the water from underneath the ground comes up,
floods the whole earth and goes and recedes back. Right. And it's just, it, that part
was what I was like, that's interesting. Like I never thought of it that way. I never thought
about it never rained until Adam or until Noah's flood. And then that could be the first
time rain was recorded and first time rain even happened.
I don't know. Yeah. Like that's, I mean, I, I've heard some of my dad, I've also heard
them talking up cause you know, love the creation of the behemoth and the little life.
Um, I know, I know of it. And obviously again, I will preface everything that we're saying
for this episode of the podcast is that these are not things that are, no, we don't know.
We don't know what to be true. It's a six theory, right? And they don't determine your
salvation. They're not salvation level issues. This is us talking about this stuff. I've
heard theories of, because, uh, the, the, what is it? What is it? The water one? Uh,
well, there's behemoth, which land, right? Of the land of the land, right. It's described
in a job 40, 15 through 24, if I remember correctly. Um, and then there's a Leviathan,
which was in the Bible as well. And that's of water. And so some people are saying that,
you know, they found the underwater and there's ice caps and stuff like a thing that maybe
God in order to get rid of, you know, because God had, you know, had to take them off or
whatever. I forget what it was. You know, I say at 27 one where it says that, um, Leviathan
is a serpent and a symbol of Israel's enemies who will be slain by God kind of thing. That
way you're talking about, yeah, yeah. And I, I forget, but I think they're saying maybe
that's where, uh, God is stored because it wants to come back at the end of time. Well,
the creatures they say, and maybe that's like where he stored and it was just all, you know,
theory, right? Um, Leviathan is first brought up in, um, Psalms. I remember correctly. It
was like Psalm 74, 14, if I remember, uh, it's cause it talks about you crushed the
head of Leviathan. You fed them to the creatures of the desert. Um, most of the time, any of
that stuff, the beast wise was referred to in, uh, Psalms in that sense. Um, uh, revelations,
dude, we should do, I, I, I know this is a little off topic, but we should do a whole
episode dedicated to, um, revelations and end time stuff. Just because, I mean, I, I
definitely studied that side of things a lot more than anything else for sure. Yeah. You
are definitely an expert. I are, you know, definitely educated in those, uh, in that
aspect. It's a lot of, it's a lot of fun. I enjoy it. So that's like one thing where
it talks about in the Bible to not, you know, worry yourself about that kind of stuff. But
for me, it's not worry or stress. It's more like, this is exciting because it's kind of
unfolding before my very eyes. It does part. I enjoy. Yeah. No, I know because you'll,
uh, you know, you hit me with like, like, it's happening again. I'm like, it's happening.
I'm like, what part now? And you're like, this part right here. Right. I'm like, here
we go again. Okay. Where are we at now? All right. Um, so yeah, so yeah. What other, um,
like, so I think the premise of this episode was literally to talk about random things
like that. That just made you be like, huh? I didn't think of it like that. Yeah. Um,
well, it's like, I don't know if I shared, did I share with you or just sharing the last
podcast that we did? Um, Jesus on the cross, when he says my father, why have you forsaken
me? Uh huh. Did I talk to you about that? I don't know if you did. I feel like it sounds
familiar. Like he was quoting the song. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. It was to
the fairs because like that, I just, I've been thinking about that. I've been caught
up on that. I'm like, man, how crazy is that? Jesus literally on the cross dying and he,
he basically is like quoting a song. So that like people are in the song of the fulfillment
of what price will come and do. So it's like, what a slap in the face. Like to the Pharisees
and the Sadducees are like, we know the law. You're wrong. We're going to have you killed.
And it's like, boo. Yeah. I'm going to quote this right here and everything you're doing,
you just fulfill the prophecies. Like snap, like, Oh my gosh. Um, I don't know about that.
They said that exact, those exact words, but right. Right. Um, it's this crazy. Um, and
just, yeah, I don't know what else to say about that. That's why I was really caught
up on that, uh, that in particular. Yeah, no, I hear you. Um, there was another one
I was talking to someone about because they're like, well, is this true or is this not true?
And um, it was talking about like how, um, what's it called? Shoot. Uh, there, there's
this, there was this medium article. I don't know if you ever been on that. It's like medium.com
where people can write articles, like anybody can write an article, create their own page,
start writing stuff. And there was, I guess there was a medium article talking about like
different, um, things in the Bible that most people don't acknowledge because it shakes,
shakes like their core belief and stuff. Um, like one of them was, um, what's it called?
Uh, a lot of times in the Bible, um, people that are the Bible old Testament wise, refer
to God as being, um, that of like, uh, blue refer to sky, ocean or water, living water.
Um, they say, like, I think it was in, uh, numbers 15 talking about like, uh, sat at
a Sapphire or stuff like that. And it was just something funny because they're like,
yeah, that's why all these other religions that came off of Christianity, like, or mocked
Christianity had blue deities, like blue Hindu gods or blue Buddhists or blue genies that
were demigods and stuff like that is because they took that ideology of God looking blue
and just made it their own thing. I was like, I didn't, I didn't know that, but now it makes
a lot more sense why there's a lot of like old school, like even some Egyptian gods were
known to be like very blue and they just took the old religion of God and who God is and
took those little things of like saying that he's like that of the sky or like that of
a Sapphire or that of a blue Lily and stuff like that. Say, Oh, he's a blue God. So we're
going to make a religion off of blue God. And I just thought that was interesting. I
didn't, I didn't know that, but now I'm connecting pieces. I can be like, Hey, you believe in
that God, you know where that came from and, and kind of like connect the dots kind of
thing. I thought that was interesting. Yeah, that's, I've never heard that. And when you
say that, that actually is, that's pretty interesting that you, you know, that how that
correlates with blue and how the, of the sky and the Sapphire and other gods basically
idolizing the one true God in a sense. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. I had not heard of that
before that, man. I'm kind of like going like, Whoa, okay. I thought that was interesting.
Yes. Yeah. Cause like, so I've been studying apologetics, which if anybody listening doesn't
know what that is, apologetics is not apologizing for anything. It's where he only he apologizes.
Only he no apologetics is, uh, comes from the word apologia, which means to defend in
court or to defend in a court setting. Um, so the idea of apologetics is to study the
Bible so that you have a valid defense to discuss with people. So if, you know, if someone
came up to me and was like, how do you know Jesus loves someone? Oh, because he himself
said, I bring up verses and I like, and those verses were historically accurate transcripts
of what happened during that timeframe. Right? So, um, that's kind of the idea of apologetics
is to have a good, um, foundation to discuss with people. So I've been studying apologetics
of, uh, the Christian faith and a biblical foundation. And, um, it's been interesting
because a lot of the times I'll realize that when, when I'm talking to other people about
who God is, and I'm sure you get this too, um, we tend to use words that this is another
one of those things, Christian knees words.
No, that never happens. Nope. No, but that's not actually, I do as a youth pastor, all
of the kids, I'll tell the kids like, I'm like, okay, how are you describing that? That's
really, you're doing a good job, but can you use it with now describe the same thing you
just said without Christian needs. And I say, and I say, like, try to describe it. If though
we're here and we're all new Christians are, we don't know Christ. How would you explain
this to a friend that doesn't know? And sometimes it's like, and it's like, that's not easy
to do. Like there's sometimes it's like, but no, like the way I say this is only works
that way. Right. Like I'm like, I'm like, I know it's not easy. This is what I wanted
to bring up, but I think it's important though, for us to do the try when talking the practice,
not always using Christian needs because there's times where you need to tell somebody about
God or about your faith. You can't be like, you know, I was really led by the spirit to
come talk to you. It's like, who the hell led you? Like the spirit, drugs, drugs, what's
wrong with you? It's like, Oh no, I just, I had a feeling that I should talk to you about
you know, Christ and like, do you have a relationship with Jesus? Like, like I feel like I was supposed
to talk to you. Cause if you go up, you know, some people might be really taken back with
that. Like, what the hell are you talking about? You're a weirdo. Get away from me.
I don't want, no, whatever you're selling, I don't want it. Right. This is too well.
No, exactly. This is what I wanted to bring up because in apologetic studies, I learned
that there's a lot of words that we as Christians or those who believe in Christ and follow
Christ use that those terms are confusing for other people. So I wanted to also step
from what we were talking about before of just kind of like different theories and different
ideas that we've heard and seen, and then kind of go into this where it's like, what's
some Christian needs stuff that you've, you, you've seen? Like I brought out the bat, the
quiet time. You know what I'm talking about, right? When quiet time, quiet time, that is
a Christian needs term. I need time for some prayer. I need some quiet time, you know?
Yeah, no, that's definitely it's like quiet time. Like people say alone time. Like that's
what it's like. It's like, is it like a, yeah, basically. Right. Or another one popular one
is hedge of protection. Oh, I'm guilty. I use that one all the time. I'm like, Lord,
I had your protection around this, like, you know, my day and it's protection around, you
know, just this whole situation, Lord. And I'm like all the time. Can I have a blue proof
glass, please? Like basically, yeah, right. You know, like, so I know that the hedge came
from like, what was it? Joe, Joe one 10 when it talks about it, um, where it says like,
have you not put a hedge around him and his house and all that he has on every side, you've
blessed the work of his hands. I know it talks about that. Um, there, there was a Isaiah
five talks about like remove the hedge. Like a hedge is very something in the Bible. Very,
very, very hedgy. Yeah. Very hedgy. Yeah. So it's like, the hedgy is hog. Right. Yeah.
Of course. Hedgehog. I don't know what I'm saying right there. I don't know. So you see
it or anything. So you see in the Bible where it talks about hedge of protection, like,
or it talks about hedge, like tear down the hedge and let something bad happen. And then
we come in and like, we're going to pray for a hedge of protection around this person.
And it's just kind of funny because anybody outside of the Christian faith hears hedge
of protection or media thought is like hedge, like bushes, like why not? Like that's Christian
needs, right? Um, traveling mercies. I heard this one recently, like, oh, he, like he blessed
me with his traveling mercies. Have you heard of heard that when like in church and stuff?
Yeah. Yeah. Traveling mercies all the time. I like, I pray for that. I've ever traveled
mercy over this. Yeah. Nobody outside the church knows what that is. It's like, if someone
new comes to church and someone was like coming back from a missions trip and said like, he
blessed me with his traveling mercies. That person's like, you what? Like, what does that
entail? What does that mean? Or I pray for traveling mercies on you. It's like, it's
not a term that people use outside the church. Right. But yeah, no, I was just, I was muted.
I forgot that I mean myself. No, that's true though. I totally said that to people like,
well, you know, I pray for travel mercy for you. And I pretty, I'm pretty sure I've said
to you who, you know, well, I don't ever want a big trip. Oh, I'll pay for child mercy.
It's like, and not, you know, not really thinking that that is a total church term. Like it
is. It's a, they had no idea what I was saying. I probably was like a crazy person, right?
They're just like, ah, I need mercy for my travel. Right. Well, just tell them, right.
It's like, it's easier to explain it to like non-Christians. You just say safe trip, like
safe travels, like God bless you and your travel, something simple like that. But we
use these terms that are so to speak, Christian ease. Another one washed by blood. You know
how cold that sounds to someone on the outside? Yeah. So this is the blood of Christ. You're
watching the blood. What, when, or say by the blood of the lamb, people start thinking
like that's, that sounds culty, like killing, slaughtering the lamb or something like that.
And that was kind of like some of the lessons I was learning in apologetics was using terms
that make sense outside of the church. Like Jesus died for your sense rather than saying
you're washed by the blood. Cause that's such a Christian terminology, understanding what
that means. You know what that means, but outside the church, happy day, my sins that
I washed away. Right. You say, right. I freaking love that song. It's a good song. It's a really
good song. Remember you doing that flag worship at Vinhut. Yeah. That was wild. Yeah. This
I found the other way, just so you know, this is totally off the subject, but I found the
flags at the church. I was so happy and I was like, what are these doing here? They
were like, Oh no, we don't use those anymore. I'm like, why not? They're like, it's a distraction.
I'm like, I'm like, especially if I was doing it, I can see it. I mean, the distraction.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But I, but I really wanted it. I really wanted it. It's upsetting. Yeah.
So another one that it was talking about was, uh, uh, don't use words like the Christian
Chinese term lay hands on because you nowadays culturally, if you're like, Oh, I'm going
to lay some hands on that person or don't lay a hand on her. That kind of terminology
is more aggressive, but instead of church lay hands on it just means I'm going to put
my hand on you pray for you. Right. But you have to be an insider to know that. Like you
have to be someone that's seen that language used as that way rather than the one that's
like outside of that realm. And just here as you say, lay hands on them. Like, uh, this
is a little violent, but okay. Like, Oh, okay. Like I get that. Cause it's like, you know,
how many times are you like, you might have to lay hands on you, but it's like in like
most kind of loving way, but you do that like on the street, like you want to be like hands
on you. It's like, do you want to go right now? Like, all right, let's go. You're going
to war with locket. Oh my gosh. Stuff like that. It's, it's, it's, you know, but we are
in this world and that's part of it too. Is, you know, that's Christians were called to
be set apart. And I think that's why, you know, we have terms that don't make sense.
Right. Right. Those who don't believe. Right. So like, uh, there's a couple like that where
if you start studying like anything on the lines of apologetics, there's a couple of
good books out there, like on guard, how not to read the Bible, um, stuff. There's a couple
of them.
How not to read the Bible. No, read the Bible. How not to read it though. Like understanding
how to correct. I know how not to read it. I know how not to read it. There's some really
good books out there that teach people how to communicate these things because, um, what
was it? There's a, I remember, um, I'm going to this new church and one person, they're
like, Oh, I'm new to this church, whatever. And, um, I'm new to that church too. And I
heard one of their friends come up to them and say like, Hey, can you something, something?
And all I heard reply was that's not my spiritual gifting. And it made me laugh because that's
literally just translating to that's translating to someone else. Yeah. Sorry. We don't like,
sorry. We can't have you in this department. I liked that. That's like the same way of
getting like, that's like a Christian friend zone right there. Right. Sorry. That's not
my spiritual gifting. No, I just not true. Cause spiritual, you know, Christian friend
zoning is I see as a brother in Christ. That's Christian. That's more like an excuse for
just like, ah, you know, like I would, but I'm really busy right now. Right. Like that
would just like, you know, that does not my spiritual care. Right. Yeah. What happened
to Philippians? I can do all things through Christ. That reminds me of the one that you
hear says like, where'd it go? There's another one. Like I don't feel led. You know what
I mean? I don't feel the spirit leading me. Oh, maybe she pray a little more. Maybe you
should read a little bit more. It's the everybody else is leading you this way, but I don't
feel he's leaving the heart. Like really? Cause 85 year old grandma been prayed every
single day for this. She says, yeah, English translation is can't make me. I don't think
I'm ready here. Oh my gosh. It's just, it's just, there's a lot of Christian. He is turned
inside the Christian church that don't make sense and don't help talking to people outside
the church. Um, it, it's, it's funny, but like, um, oh gosh, yeah, there's a lot. Uh,
there's like the, the common one you'll hear a lot. I'll be praying for you. Right. And
then sadly I'll be praying for you. Yeah. Like I really don't want to talk about it.
Like right now I have you help you deal with it, but I'll be praying for you. There's an
outside chance. I'll remember this conversation later today. Like for real though, like that
is such a real thing. It's like, Oh, like, Oh, I really gotta get, go. I'll be praying
for you. It's like, no, pray right now. Exactly. Right. And I know it's like, I'm like, I'm
like, Oh, like, like, like, like, like, like recently I gotta go. Right. Like, I want to,
but I just don't have the patience to do it right now. Right. It's actually the whole
thing of like walking the walk rather than just talking to talk. Like if you, if you
believe in Christ and someone's struggling and having news, like, can you pray for us?
It was like, yeah, I'll make sure to keep you in my prayer, like pick up the phone.
If it's a text thing or if it's in person, just be like, Hey, can I pray for you now?
Like, are you free now? I'll call you or I'll like, I'll pray for you now because it's not
that you have done that. Yes. We've done that. Like we've, we both done that. I'm like, you're
like, I need prayer. I'm like, okay. Right. Right. That's one time. So I'm like, I'm really
having a hard time. Okay. I go to, I'm going to call you. You guys be able to call me.
No, and you know, I'm being stubborn. Like, no, I don't know. I'm not available. You're
like, yes, you are. You're still, I, it's your day off. Yeah. Call me. And I'm like,
okay. Sorry. It was a right. There was, um, I was, I, I, I watched a lot of church live
streams and, um, checking out different churches in the area too, cause I like to see what
other churches are doing. I, uh, really feel connected when I see the full body of Christ
in an area working. So I just want to, all of them to grow together and body of Christ
and not separate, et cetera. So one of the churches, I didn't know it was a mega church
until I saw the, it backed up from the pastor and showed the whole church and it's a mega
church. It's like a three tier dome mega church and three tier. Yeah. It's a, it's a big church
and it's not far from me either. And, um, he, now this term is you can be used in a
wrong way and I seen pastors use it wrongly and I've seen pastors use it correctly. But
when at the end of their sermon and stuff like that, they say, let us pray. Right. That
right there is Christian ease and it could either mean let's pray and bless the rest
of the day in the week, or it can mean I'm going to pretend to talk to God now, but I'm
preaching at you. Like it could mean either or I'm good. I think I've used that once or
twice in a long time. Like, you know, like the pastor get up there. Yeah. Like let us
pray and like commission or they said, like this, let us pray and commission the saints
out stuff like that. Like I've heard that they call it a commissioning for the week.
Right. It will think of it this way too. Let's think of it this way. Like if you're up there
preaching a word, let's say about, um, about getting up off the couch and doing something
that week. Right. And you're like, let us pray father. I pray that every single person
here gets off that couch and actually does something with their day. They actually go
preach to people. I pray that you just lead them into this, that, you know, that, you
know, my message, the message of the word that we brought today will rain true in their
lives and you start preaching like that. You're preaching at them. There's a difference when
you're praying and say, let's pray. And you're like, father, thank you that we get to read
freely, get to experience you freely. I pray that today that your Holy Spirit was here,
that you are welcome here with us. And I pray throughout this week that we experienced you
and help you can help us guide our lives throughout this week. Right. That's the difference of
the prayer is, are you preaching at them technically? Like just what you reiterating your, what
you taught or are you praying to God saying like, well, yeah, it's kind of, it's kind
of a mindset. Like, are you, are you really just trying to drive it home and, you know,
push what you're teaching was? Right. And that's what, that's the issue. It's like,
that's right. There's also a Christian ease and it's like, I see it a lot. Yeah. I feel
like that's like, it's a common thing, but I don't know if you really taught that or
just something that you've seen. So people just do it. There's, there's also, um, Oh,
I remember one that used to have that. I'm not going to name church names, but there
was a church that I went to for a long time and, um, uh, this would happen. This, the
prayer concerns, I don't know if you've heard this before. Oh, I just like get in the group
and like, Hey, I have prayer concerns about blank. They are doing blank and I don't think
it's, and I try to confront them. They, they didn't want to hear it. So I just wanted to
lift prayer concerns for them. Right. Have you heard that? Like that kind of talk too
much. No, no, not often. Like it's not often that you see this. Right. That's like gossip.
Right. It's basically prayer concerns. I have juicy gossip. This person's doing this and
I'm telling you their stuff so you can hear it too. But let's pray about it because that
makes it better. Why I'm telling you gossip, like there's stuff like that where it's like,
those are not healthy things. There's right way of doing stuff and wrong way. Like if
I'm like, Hey, my prayer concern for my group, I can go up to him, but like, Hey, my concern
is a friend of mine. He's going through some stuff. I just came. We just let them up in
prayer. That's great. But if you're going there and be like, I have prayer concerns
about my friend, this guy, he, uh, like Dylan, I, you know, Dylan, he's a, you know, he's
just been drinking way too much and, uh, you know, he gets drunk all the time. He wakes
up who knows where I just had prayer concerns. So let's just pray for him too. Like that's
the wrong way of doing stuff. Right. So, yeah, no, like that's a hundred percent like the
wrong way of doing it because God knows who you're trying to pray for. So like, honestly,
it just, you know, God knows you don't need to bring other people into it unless it's
like an issue, you know? Yep. Yep. So that's kind of the big thing there is that I think
what I wanted to kind of throw around in here with the Christian stuff is that there's a
lot of words and verbiage that we as Christians use that don't aren't really good to use and
don't help anybody outside of the church and sometimes not in the church, but mostly doesn't
help anybody outside the church trying to come in or just ask questions and trying to
get answers. And can you imagine someone's like, uh, you know, some comes up to you and
say, well, so why does sin exist? And then you stand there and you're Christian knees
and you're like, Hmm, well, it's God's will or God works in mysterious ways. Yeah. Well,
the Lord works in mysterious ways is good. The Lord's a bill. It's harder than understanding.
You know, we had to just, you know, all you should do is just pray on it. Right. But this
is where equipping yourself. What is sin? We've talked about what is sin, which is nice.
Yeah. Um, anything that is not, it takes away from the glory of God. Anything that is, you
know, it's, it's that idea. If someone has questions, be ready to answer those questions
rather than give them Christian knees words to make them more confused.
One of the main issues is, is my yarn, um, that I had to cut off, but one of the main
issues is that it's, it's, it's just like in the heart of people, I think it comes down
to with the majority of all of this stuff is why are you praying? Why do you, you know,
why do you do things you do? I got one a little bit above that. Okay. I think it comes down
to if you actually received the Holy spirit or not. Oh, well, hold on. I said, if you
have Jesus, right. So this is where the right, right. That's it. That Jesus, right. If you
have Jesus, Jesus, God, Holy spirit, Trinity, green one. So therefore I'm also right.
Yes. But if you accept Jesus as your Lord and savior, right. As the Bible says, you
are gifted the Holy spirit as a sign that you were saved. And if you don't know what
the spirit looks like, you go to Galatians five and it says, if, if your life and everything
around your life looks like this, then you don't have the spirit yet. You're not saved.
If you life shows this in the fruits of your life, show this and everybody around you is
experiencing this because of your life. Then you are saved because you, you have the Holy
spirit. So that's something that I think a lot of people forget is that it's not even
just about your heart because obviously the Bible talks about, you know, your, your heart
can be deceiving.
Are you telling me that I'm not perfect and I shouldn't listen to my body and myself when
I want to do because I'm not right. Right. Jeremiah 17 nine, the heart is deceitful above
all things, desperately sick. Who can understand it? I think that's pretty clear.
Wait, Jeremiah, that guy, the guy, the prophet that was a bullfrog, right? Bullfrog. Oh my
gosh. He was a good friend of mine. Yeah. Never understood a word he said, but he had
mighty fine line. Oh gosh. But yeah, Jeremiah 17 nine, fantastic example of that. Um, uh,
I know that the heart reflects right. That of a man, I think it's Proverbs 27 19 as
in the water face, face reflects face. Uh, so the heart of man reflects the man. And
that's why you see stuff in like Ezekiel 36 where it says like, God comes in and says,
I'll replace that heart of stone and replace it with a heart of flesh. Uh, Zekiel 36 26.
I'll give you a new heart, new spirit. I'll put in you, I remove the heart stone from
your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. And it's that idea of re it's not even your
heart. That's the whole idea of rebirth is that accepting Christ, you are gifted the
Holy spirit. The Holy spirit changes your heart, renews your heart. And then the Holy
spirit guides you and fulfills your life in those ways. Um, which you can read up in Colossians
five about, um, that's, that's kind of where the topic was headed at that point. I think
you're still muted. Yeah, I know. I, you know, half the time I'm muted and I don't even remember
what, um, but yeah, you know, I think like you said, the Holy spirit is, is, it's key
because I feel like that's what really leads you in a sense. And, you know, the spiritual
gifts and everything, it comes from the Holy spirit and all. Like, you know, it's just,
it's you can, like you said, it's, it's basically like, it's like the armors, the weaponry,
I think, you know, for Christians that that's, that's what we need to go out there with is
with the Holy spirit and be equipped and ready to go. Yeah. Romans eight 26, like why is
the spirit helps us in our weakness where we do not know what to pray for what as we
ought, but the spirit itself intercedes for us with groanings too deep for words. Uh,
Galatians five 22 to 23 talks about what the fruits of the spirits are. And if you don't
know what fruits are, it's like the fruit of your labor. That's a very common term inside
and outside of Christian, um, ideology is it's the fruit of the spirit and it's love,
joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faith in this gentleness, self-control. Um,
and if those things, if you're not reflecting those things, then you do not have Christ
within you. That's how intense that is. So when you see like on media and TV and news,
like Christian standing there, um, with signs, shouting and condemning and violent in the
their words towards people, that is nothing of the Holy spirit. Absolutely not. Which
means that they are not truly saved, which is scary because they think they are, you
know? Yeah. I mean, I think that's the biggest thing is people thinking they're saved when
they're really not like, like you said, unless you're reflecting the first of the spirit,
I mean, but like nobody's perfect either. Correct. But there's a difference between
living everyday life and falling short and repenting and still have a good fruit. Yeah.
Like, I mean, like I know with some of those patients where I fall short, sure. Like who
doesn't have it? You know, patients is, I think one of the hardest self-control can
be hard. There's a lot of things like that. Right. A lot of this though, when you see,
when it talks about this, this is talking about the fruit, right? The things around
your life. So let's, you know, if everybody around you is like, Oh yeah, Dylan, you know,
he's, he's pretty fun. He's patient. He's most of the time patient. He shows kindness.
He's very faithful. He's very controlled, self-control. He has good self-control. And
they generally say that for that is like fruits of the spirit showing, but they're like, Oh
yeah, he might seem nice, but man, he is a train wreck. He doesn't have any patients.
He's just a ticking time bomb. All that kind of stuff comes up and people are like, Oh
wow. Yeah. Uh, no, no, no.
Yeah. No, a lot of it too is, you know, the best example is of what your fruit and what
people that truly know you the best, you know, like if I were to ask your wife, is Jason
patient? Is he, you know, I feel the fuel that you're closest with, you know, that is
hands down the probably the biggest tail. Like, you know, if you, if now, if you were
to ask, you know, that's like my parents or my siblings, like, Oh, what, you know, we're
just fall short, you know, they're like, Oh, this, this, that they know. Right. And I think
that's like the truth. Cause here's your true self is with the ones that you love. Right.
And I, I think so too, because you're most comfortable. And the issue that we see there
are that I've seen before is that there's a lack there of pursuing Christ in the comfort
of your significant people, like the people that are significant in your life. Right.
And you see it in James three 17, it says the wisdom from above is first pure, then
peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy, good fruits, impartial and, and sincere.
And you can see that that kind of stuff for fruits is where you experience everybody that
experienced that kind of stuff from you. It means you're on the right track. Now I'll
challenge you on this too, because this is a challenge for me as well. If your life around
you doesn't reflect the fruits of the spirit, my question will be, did you repent of your
last sins? When's the last time you actually sat down for quiet time? Like we, we talked
about before. And when's the last time that you sat there and prayed and just had your
one-on-one time with God and meditated on this word, because that's the issue.
I feel like lately too, that's been like, you know, we've all been busy moving around
and doing all this stuff. And I think that's, you know, thinking about that. Like I need
the work on that. Like I had to get back in the, in the flow.
And then that's why the fruits of the spirit do not show. That's why you start the struggle
because the fruits of the spirit, when the Bible comes out, obviously we will fall short.
That's easy. That is just sin in general. That will happen. But when it comes to the
fruit of the spirit and the Holy spirit itself, we are to, it's there to help us in our weakness.
Romans eight 26. And we are to, when we start to see those fruits disappear in our life
by Galatians five 22 to 23, that means we need to start going back and study and read
the Bible to connect with God, because that means that we're starting to stray. That means
that I bet you anything. That means that there's been sin recently, or there's been something
that's caused you the fall and it's pulling you away from doing the extra steps to make
sure that you're in the Bible because you know that it will call you out. And that's
something that I noticed with Christians who read a lot or are in a position of maybe authority
or who like the Bible and study it a lot more is that when stuff like this happens, where
they start to reflect the wrong fruits and wrong foods are starting to show and they
just like, ah, it's just, it's just sin. I fall short. Okay. When's the last time you
got in the Bible? When's the last time you had your one-on-one? When's the last time
you sat down and studied for yourself rather than for someone else's teaching or for a
different reason outside of you wanting to learn more? That's the whole point of second
Timothy three 16 17. You know, it's just study the Bible. Joshua one eight book law. The
Bible does not depart from your mouth. Meditate on it day and night. If you do not have time
to set aside before you wake or like before you go to work and get up for the day or afterwards,
then you need to work on your time management because you're doing it backwards and that's
what causes you to fail. Yeah. Like honestly, you think about that type of stuff. Like that's
a huge, I feel like those who were, you know, like to myself and in ministry roles, because
in leadership, you know, you're constantly prepping lessons and doing stuff like that
in the meeting, right? But how much of it are you actually sitting time for yourself?
Like I just think like last week I set up a whole lesson, but did I really spend any
time to myself? But also I feel like a lot of the time too, though, when I'm doing that,
it is very much God will have it set up where it's actually something for me as well. Probably
because you need more time with him on your own. Yeah. And I feel like I'm like, well,
you guys, I'm starting to go through Jeremiah. And I just, we just went week one was last
week and I asked the kids, you know, what do you know about Jeremiah? And I'm like,
and no, you cannot put, he was a bull front. That is not an answer. You know, one, one
kid, she's a, she's a PK. Um, she really didn't know anything either, but she put, um, prophet
in the Bible child of God. And like, you know, just enough where it was like, yeah, I mean,
sure. You should narrowly telling any character from the Bible. Right. And she put like, was
not a bullfrog. I was like, okay, cool. And then I gave a brief summary, but it's like,
you know, and I, I feel like, cause you know, those times where you teach him and I was
saying like, I was telling the kids like, you know, I feel like I teach and you know,
it feels like, you know, I like, I talked to people like at work and I'm like, I feel
like, you know, I'm not talking to them, but they don't, you know, nothing's clicking.
Nothing makes sense. And nobody's really, you know, I'm going to come to the Lord before
I'm doing it. And I said, maybe like you guys feel majority of you guys like, cause all
like 14 of them, like, like you guys already know God. I'm like, that's great, but we need
to bring friends that we don't. Right. And that's just, you know, that's the things,
you know, that you think about like, it's not about numbers ever, but it's like, I love
the reach out. I'm like, it's not about, I told them, it's not about the numbers, it's
about reaching those who aren't reached. And you think,
I think it's, um, it was one 19 11 where it said your word I have treasured and stored
in my heart that I may not sin against you. And I think that's, that's very good way to
put it is that, you know, it's not just read the Bible, get a teaching from it, especially
in a leadership position. Um, it's not just read the Bible, bring a teaching, but it's
you yourself and my, me, myself treasured the word of God. Like, uh, and like in Psalms
it talks about a lot, like your words, the lamp unto my feet, et cetera. And we are to
treasure it, not let it leave our, our, our mouth day and night to study it over and over
and over again with ourselves, not an end with others too, but in the sense of like,
not just to teach, but to also learn. And that's where I think a lot of times someone
like me being a pastor's kid and you being in ministry that might escape us sometimes
where we have to do it to teach ourselves and learn not just to teach others, but to
learn so we can grow too. But, uh, yeah, this has been a little bit random of a recording
today. Yeah, but I think it's been good beneficial. I am going to slow down this and call it
good here because it's, it's been about an hour and, um, we, we, we will start recording
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