Welcome to the Gospel Truth Project Podcast. In this episode, we talk about, Is This Sin?
Enjoy.
Welcome. Hey Dylan, how's it going?
Good, Jason, how are you doing?
You know, I'm doing pretty good. I actually went to California and saw you, so that was
a good start.
Yeah, that was pretty awesome.
I ended up buying a Dyson vacuum over there from Costco.
Oh, good old Costco, yeah.
I didn't know vacuums could be so awesome.
Yeah, I heard the Dyson really sucks.
They really suck.
Get it?
Oh, it's fantastic.
Oh my gosh, such a bad joke.
Such a bad joke.
So do you know what we're talking about today?
Oh, well, you, as you told me earlier, no, I have no idea. You said we don't know. We're
just going to figure it out. I don't know.
Okay, so I kind of wanted to be that way because usually we have prep, we have notes, we have
like, paper says like, hey, this is kind of like the outline of what the whole podcast
is going to be. But today is starting the episode of the first in a series that we're
going to be doing. And I wanted to be a little bit different. So I'm hoping that you follow
along as well.
But so here's the thing. You and me both get up to a point where people ask us questions
outside of our house, like outside of the church or inside the church, one of the two.
But you and me both are in a place to where we get questions by people asking us faith
based questions or biblical questions or just theology questions in general, right?
Oh, yeah.
All the time.
Especially with kids like you know, they have lots of questions eager to learn. So right.
And even you know, among peers to discussion and discourse.
Right? Yeah, exactly. Like you and me will discuss stuff and go back and forth. And,
you know, I have other friends that do the same thing where they'll reach out and say,
hey, someone was asking me this. I don't know how to answer. So I came to you because you
usually blah, blah, blah. So this episode is going to be called Is It Sin? I don't know
if it's going to be like volume one or episode one or part one or something like that. But
the whole premise of this is I've been I collected questions, probably like a close to 100 questions
that we can go through over episodes. And the questions are from people who legitimately
had questions about faith, theology, God, the Bible, authenticity, like all this stuff.
And I took four questions each episode for these parts series. And we just get to like
discuss them, talk about them based on the knowledge that we have. Obviously, we could
pull up scripture to help us out because we don't want to want to paraphrase.
This should be interesting because we we too tend to have a lot of discussion on well,
stuff like this too. So it might it might get a little I know I might get a little interesting.
I think it'd be fun. Yeah,
I literally someone that I known for a while who believes in God and says they're Christian
said something to me the other day. I won't say on which platform because I'm going to
make it very broad. But they reached out to me the other day thinking that they had something
that I would agree with. And they sent it to me like, Can you believe this? And I was
like, What's your point? And we literally went back and forth. And the funny thing was
is that when I was presenting my conviction for what they were sharing, I used verses
and pretty much only verses like I would say, Bible says this and then I'd have like 15
verses afterwards or chapters to read my and you can see cross reference with this specifically
in this situation this and I was using Bible verses that person came back to me basically
saying I was wrong and only shared two verses to prove me wrong. And it's like, you know,
if the majority of the Bible is is pushing this one way and then you take a verse or
two out of context of what it was talking about and use that as your foundation, you
might need to rework your foundation. That's, that's what it came down to. So yeah. Yeah,
it's fun. Definitely. Definitely agree with that. And that's where that's where you and
me can discuss like, you know, like you me, if we disagree on something, I'm more than
happy to hear you listen to what your opinions are or what why you believe what you believe.
And I'd hope the same for you to me that if I believe something differently, we can sit
down and discuss why because if I'm just like, I don't know why I don't really have a reason
then I need to change. That's it. Yeah, I mean, yeah, I mean, you have to have reason
even if I have reason I mean, this sounds like me stubborn. Definitely we've had discussion.
So we'll see. And then you always like, well, then there's a verse on this and how you're
feeling. I'm like, don't make girls feel that maybe I want to be right doing it. And I mean,
I think that's a lot of problems is you have to learn how to humble yourself at certain
points. I definitely have that accountability here with Jason, which is, which is good because
you know, like I said before, accountability is key. growing in your faith. And also, I
mean, yeah, there's definitely it's gonna be interesting to see where the questions
are to this week and to see what we get out of this. Yeah, go for it. I was before you
started I say you want to open us up. Do you want to open this up in prayer? Yeah, sure.
Short, sweet and to the point. God, thank you for today that we are able to gather together
after a few weeks now of taking a break. I just pray for your Holy Spirit to guide us
that you reveal to us your truth through your word, that we stay on your topics and of your
truth, God, that with this that we do not bring our own understanding of what the word
is, but just what the word says, because you speak clearly and decisively. And we thank
you for your word and the ability to do this every day. Amen. Amen. Yeah, that was good.
So just, I just want to say one more thing before we start. Sorry that we have not been
recording. It's been kind of a crazy like hit and miss and trying to work out when Jason's
not working when I'm not working. So if we will do a lot out of schedule that should
work better now so they can be more consistent for everyone. Also, another thing to also
again these when we're talking about this, we are talking about sin. We are not wish
you're not trying to say that you we don't love you. We don't create care for you guys
if it is something you struggle with. But it is just it's just what the word says with
the but the living word of God says. And we don't mean anything to be hateful or anything.
We are just simply stating what the word says and what we believe.
I think what we try to do here is simply put in Second Timothy 316, like we talked about
before, is that all scripture is breed that by God and profitable for teaching, reproof
and correction and for training and righteousness. And that's basically what we want to do is
when we see these questions, these topics and these things that pop up from other people
asking, we want to be able to step in and say, well, that's a great question. Let's
talk about it in a biblical sense and see what this looks like. And that's what we're
doing. So yeah, so I got you ready for the first question?
Yeah, of course, always. So the first question that I actually got
literally two weeks ago from someone on TikTok actually, DM my profile was like, hey, you
seem to post Bible stuff. I was curious because I don't know this one. They asked is sarcasm
a sin? I was like, this is a good question. That is a good question. Because I mean, so
right off the bat, it's easy to say it can be because it's not. It's a negative thing.
Like usually sarcasm is like bewildering someone or like demoting them in your perspective,
I guess is the best way I could think of it, where you're tearing them down because of
something they said. Like Ephesians, what was it? 429 says, don't let no corruption
or not corrupting talk come out of your mouth, but only such as good for building up as fits
the occasion that it may give grace to those who hear. Right. And that's how all our talk
is supposed to be, which is something right there where I'm like, well, biblically, we're
looking at it from a few different places that talk about like filtering what we say
and how we say it. Wasn't it Matthew 537? Yes, it is. I pulled up. Oh, really? Yeah,
you read it. Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was what it was. Jesus was abrupt. Why all this
bit of the this busy body grief and gossip. This child isn't dead. She's sleeping, provokes
sarcasm. So that's he's using sarcasm there. They told him Jesus. Which translation are
you reading? Message. Oh, message. OK, so yeah, I don't I don't want that one. The only
thing I want to mention before we start getting into translations because I'm really picky
about it. There's like I've talked about it before when we talked about Bible. There's
word for word. There's thought for thought. And then there's paraphrasing. And when you
get to word for word, you're looking at Bibles like translations are like L.E.B., N.S.A.B.,
M.E.V. and amplified. Those are all word for word. King James, New King James, ESV are
all kind of leaning more thought for thought, but still word for word for the most part.
Paraphrasing. You see a lot of that with like the Living Bible or the message or the voice
where they paraphrase verses to help people understand kind of what was supposed to like
kind of the feeling of what was supposed to be said. And you don't want to base everything
you read off of paraphrased translations because it's just to try to help you build the concept
of what's going on. Because sometimes when you start reading amplified or L.E.B. Bible
and you start seeing it where it's like you're reading it and it's just like that was the
south fricking something it says it can get to you. Yeah. No, I just I downloaded the
new new Bible app. I believe it's what is it? Terracotta. Oh, OK. Yeah, it's really
cool. But I guess you to treat it. You can look up to different Bible verses at the same
time in different different books like New King James and New Living Translation. But
the message went on there for some reason. So I was trying to read that and did not look
as the same thing. Because if you go to like work your word, Matthew five thirty seven
is let what you say be simple. Yes or no. Anything more than this is come from evil.
So if you're like sarcastically saying yeah and you actually mean no that right there
is straight up against that verse. Yes. That's yeah. So I have it now but it doesn't matter
because that's that's biblically I'd say sarcasm can be a sin because you're going
against directly what you're instructed to do. And yes also I feel like it's also to
do with the intention of the heart or sarcasm. I mean if you're like if you're just. It's
different if you're being playful. There's and in like but if you're doing I feel like
if there's an attitude and disrespect on this though it also talks about you know respecting
one another that your elders and you know like if I'm messing with you like oh you read
your Bible oh yeah yeah you read your Bible every day. Like if they can be like disrespectful
so you really it's be yeah or be a little sorry. I said be really.
Okay. I haven't finished my drink yet. Oh that's probably why.
Fusion's five talks about this kind of stuff a lot where it's like but there'd be no filthiness
nor foolish talk nor crude joking which are out of place but instead let there be Thanksgiving
and I think that out of place is kind of the point that you're making is that like you
got to be able to understand what's going on like you and me will sarcastically mess
with each other but it's out of love. Like I'm not doing it to belittle you or to make
you feel bad. I'm doing it because we just like to play around with each other and obviously
if someone else is nearby I'll be a little bit more careful because they might not see
it that way and I don't want them to feel belittled or something because I'm doing it
to you.
So and that turns into like whoa I should hear the way he talked to him. It's you know
and I think that's also it goes into it because then it turns into like well did you hear
the way Jason was talking to Dylan like he was very disrespectful because anybody outside
can see it as different and interpret it differently as well so you have to be you know kind and
loving with your words. Yeah. Which is you know that's also something we're told to do.
Yeah. Oh this was a good question though because you know it's it's something that's not just
a simple like oh yeah don't do that. No like generally I would say it is a sin generally
and you can see where it talks about this kind of stuff it says in in the right place
right. It talks about this specifically because you know I can talk to you differently than
I talk to my boss because it's a different situation it's a different feel right. What.
No way. Right. See what's like right there that example I feel like I is that sin. Is
it though. I feel like in that sense it's not like no really like oh like as is being
playful but like if it's if it's not like a lie like you're saying or saying oh you
knew that oh yeah I totally did that's still see that's lying. Right right. And there's
a difference in it like in that way in the aspect of how I see it with you. Right. It's
more is yes I mean that's what I think it's kind of yeah you know I'm like well I think
that way I don't really see that as a sin I think it's just you know poke making fun.
I think it's I think the tongue we have to be careful with what we say. And this is the
tongue the tongue is like a two edged sword or something like that. Yeah and you see that
a lot like in Proverbs when it talks about that kind of stuff like Proverbs 12 18 there's
one who rash words are like sword thrusts but the tongue of the wise brings healing.
There's stuff like that a lot where it talks about watching what we say and when we say
it because I can say something to Dylan that's you know I can say something to you that's
very forward and we can mess around that way because that's what we that's our relationship
but we know it's out of love. And then there's ways that if I did that to anybody else it'd
be like man this guy is rude. Yeah. Even the sense of like say like it's things happen
where we're messing around. I think your wife's like Jason you can't talk to Dylan like that
and it's like oh no no no. Like it was this for messing. I just was just playing around
because you know. Yeah. I got to make sure though that I'm bringing you up like I'm speaking
like to you obviously and that's something that I want to continue to do. But we play
around and we know that we're not tearing each other down. Yeah. I'm not going out of
my way to say wow you're stupid. Like that I don't really want you just to tell me.
Don't you're being stupid. Or I'd say that that was stupid. I specify. That is true.
So I think this answer this question I think it comes down to you bet you should watch
your tongue. It could become a sin. Just that's as easy as it gets. What do you think. What
do you think. Yeah. No I think that is pretty much. It's the way you know it is. It is if
you get it involves lying and a malice chart for you're not loving. But if it's in if it's
in the contents out of love like a loving way. Because remember you know we're called
to love one another the uplift one another. So I think in that way it's fine. But if it's
in a way of tearing somebody down lying and sorts like that's clearly a sin. Yeah I agree.
It can be. It's a very fine line to make sure that you are not sinning with that one. Yeah.
So this actually goes right into the second question. Very very. No. Oh no. Second question
is cussing us in. Son of a nice lady. No cussing. Well he does say not you cannot serve the
same mouth that you praise the Lord with. Well then I have a question for you. Because
this is what they this is the person I was talking to. They asked this question right.
They're like what is cussing a sin. And I was like OK well what what exactly are you
trying to get across here. Like what are you just trying to say like any foul words in
general. Like is your sinning when you say him or are you saying like what are you trying
to say. And what they came across was if you look at olden days like back in the like mid
era century words like get zooks and beds were ver and gets book Likens and stuff like
that were actual customers just as bad as like effort or the seaward now. Wait wait
wait wait wait wait wait. Saying get zooks. Yeah. Yeah. It was a word back then. Right.
Get zooks was an old curse word back in the 17th century. And no. Right. That just made
my day. And it was a very bad word. It was it was really bad. You said that people like
what you just said what now. You'll need to watch your language young man. Right. And
then there was one it was like the scum. Is under kite. There's all these words that are
like very very raunchy words back in the 15th 16th and 18th century like between those time
frames. And nowadays we use them and we just kind of laugh because no one's insulted. They're
not cuss words anymore. They lost the meaning of them. They're not cussing. They're not
foul language anymore. So their point was if language falls off as not cussing anymore
at what point does the cussing turn into not cussing. So. Once again it goes back to the
very similar thing of where's your heart at. And it comes back to the fusions for 29 where
it's like as fit for the occasion right. You know there there's a place to where if I it's
all coming back down to being careful with your words right. This bridle your tongue.
It's just I think James one twenty six says anyone that thinks he's religious and does
not bridle his tongue but deceives his heart that person's religion is worthless. It just
goes about like we have to watch what we say and how we say it. That's just truth. But
it doesn't mean that we're going to perfectly do it because you can't perfectly tame your
mouth because you start saying something that's going to keep coming out. You start saying
it. It will. I think it's James three eight through 10 talks about that versus no human
being can tame your tongue. It is a restless evil full of deadly poison which with it we
bless our Lord and father and with it we curse the people who are made in likeness of God.
From the same mouth comes blessing and cursing. My brothers these things ought not to be so.
And we're supposed to put away anger wrath malice slander and obscene talk from your
mouth. That's Colossians three eight that talks about that. So I think when the Bible
is talking about cursing it's literally talking about to another person like at hurts at someone
like I'm so into how to curse them in a general sense. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And I think yeah.
Like to say you know if you do somebody is like to curse them in a sense. Right. Because
you're cursing at them like in that sense. I'm trying to remember because I just said
let's see here because when you're cursing someone in the Bible like I think Luke six
let me double check. I think Luke six twenty eight is one of them that talks about it has
been a bit Luke six twenty eight is bless those who curse you and pray for those who
abuse you. So in that sense of curse. Yeah. That's what I was looking for. So let me go
ahead and do sorry I'm like pulling up a Bible verse right now. So you know. Yeah I get it.
Here we go. All right. King James version because that has strong concordance if you
haven't tried that before. Curse. Let's see what the original words the original word
for curse because this was in which which Luke so this is Greek. That's going to be
cataromia. I don't know. That sounds like Greek to me. To. So it says to curse to doom someone
and to implicate people upon someone. That's like tearing people down. Right. Having like
I said anger or malice in your heart. Right. Curse cursing cursed and imprecation curse
and excretion execution. These are this is a very good way to put it. So it's to someone
towards someone. That's all very good to know. So you break down the word piece by piece
like how you could break it down because like I said it is it's cat Tara. Oh man. He. Yeah.
Sounds right. That's what it is. Katara. Oh my. You break that word. Yeah. You break that
down it goes to Katara which is just straight up curse cursing cursed and imprecation bad
stuff. You break that word down a little bit more you get Katta which Katta means towards
someone or according to someone against someone that kind of that's what that word means.
So yeah. Putting these together it's pretty straightforward to doom someone or bring evil
upon in that sense. So if I'm like you know if I say like like damn you kind of thing
that is very nice. Right. That's like that's a cursing someone. So when the Bible is talking
about don't like don't curse it's it's always specifically at someone unless it's like
Ephesians which we talked about where it says no corrupting talk come out of your mouth period.
Right. But as fit for the occasion kind of thing and in the sense of like only good
and for building up that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. It's like I got a couple of kids last
night youth group that were just they were just ripping into everything and everyone
and I was going like hey guys they can't be doing that. And it's like like and they came
at me with it and I was like OK I'm like look it you have a couple options here you can
you can go sit outside in the rain or you can sit in here and behave and they're like well
no. And then like I got to look like oh you can't talk to them like that. I'm like that's
very biblical to tell them that hey you need to either be loving and kind or you can like
I'm not like especially when the kid decides he's going to be on a cell phone in the middle
of the teaching and everything. I was like you know I'm like I get it if mom and dad
made you come here but like I don't need the I didn't need this your specialness in like
the language was being used like you're at church. I was like I'm sorry like you can't
just behave and there's this there was this kid these days. I think it's that reminds me of
Matthew 15 11. Yeah. Matthew let me look this up. Matthew 15 11. I don't want to paraphrase.
It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person but what comes out of the mouth this defiles
a person. And I used that when I was talking to the person I was before. I'm like he it comes
down to like being careful what we're doing because we want to lift people up around us
and that that's not we got to be careful. So to kind of keep moving this forward because
there's two more questions and one bonus question that's maybe we'll get time to do.
Is cussing a sin? I'd say cussing at someone cursing someone is a sin. Yes that is 100% true.
If you call someone to do that by demeaning them putting them down you know taking away
how's that glorifying the kingdom. It does but I will add I will add because it's important
James 417. Do you remember this one or no? No. Okay James 417 so whoever knows the right thing
to do and fails to do it that is sin. So if you're someone that is sitting there and to you saying
ah heck is a sin to you and you still do it because you're like well it's not really a cuss word but
you feel wrong doing it you're you're sinning because that's your conscience and that's your
body that is that is something the bible talks about as being sin. I know as somebody who has
to deal with children and a child who's five there's times where you know like I can't I'll be like
oh that was stupid and I hear that's a bad word you can't say that I'm like oh my well I mean
not for me but for you yes but like you know and it's almost like and you have to and that's like
a great way I think of I was thinking about it is that you know you have to know who you're around
and who you're influencing because I mean we're claimed to be Christ-like to be Christians we have
to have that that um like I guess like your Jesus your Jesus filter yeah your Jesus filter and and
that's something you should always have I mean it shouldn't just be on and off depending on who you're
with but like you know if you're talking with your wife it's a little different if I'm talking with
you know uh say my high school students like I'm a junior hires this to high school
your hires are still you know they're a little younger you got to have the kid gloves and a
little bit more with them but then high schoolers you know you can be real right so you know like I
was talking on uh ehud a little while ago uh and he has to kill king Egelon and there's a part where
it says the bible says he's a very fat man and then after he's killed he poops his pants
so and you know I got to talk about that and the junior hires are laughing I think it's hilarious
because they can't even jump themselves and they get in the high school is going like whoa what
really right he stabbed the guy and then he like pooped right I mean okay some of the boys are still
going what he like yeah but um
um but yeah no it was it's it's it's yeah definitely the matter how you talk and
once again kind of sarcasm and how we're talking and how we are speaking and outlifting people
are returning them down
right so yeah so I'm I'm I think we both agree cursing at someone is sin and for him that thinks
it is wrong and he does it anyways that is sin because James 417 like we said so you got to be
comfortable with that that's it you gotta be careful so are you ready for question three
are you ready for question three am I ready for question three hmm yeah I am ready I'm not
you're not I'm not well that doesn't make me feel confident at all this question threw me off so
hardcore and I got this question a month ago and it still keeps me up at night is it does peanut
butter belong on hot dogs no because that's delicious okay so I got this question a month
ago it was on Twitter because I was talking to someone on there about biblical foundations and
stuff and then we I don't know how we got to the topic of it they brought it up with what they're
doing for work and stuff because we were talking like hey what are you doing for work and I would
doubt it days and going back and forth and um they said well I'm doing this do you think it's wrong
so oh no the question they asked and what I'm putting the question out there is uploading
feet pics to sell oh my gosh I know but this opens I'll open it up a little bit more oh my gosh I
wonder I'm so uncomfortable with this one already so I'm also not gonna lie hold up real quick
look what who has okay I feel it's a genuine thing who has not thought about doing it though
I I literally haven't because this never crossed my mind like you know why the problem is Jason
you know you know why the problem is Jason you're just not poor enough I know you're not poor enough
because me me me like I have some big feet but just somebody be into that and I'm like but no no
like I'm not desperate enough
yeah I so okay opening up the question though is uploading pictures of yourself like on
on your feet sexual no no I'll say it all like non-sexual pictures to sell is that a sin because
if you tackle the all pictures it will it will cover feet pics but that was the question I
specifically got I just had to throw it out there to see like let people know this is what I had to
deal with it's it's a good question that I've never had to literally think I'd ever have to answer
but it's not as it's not a simple yes or no so their argument was because I was talking with them
their argument was that they are not sharing pictures of anything of the sexual nature
and they upload it and they sell it and when they sell it someone else may take it out of
like a lustful desire and stuff like that but they're not responsible for that person
sin yes but then you are causing a brother or sister to fall into sin
but they're probably not brothers and sisters in Christ they're probably unsaved at that point
doesn't mean yeah but then you shouldn't be saying then you better put a bible verse somebody did
see pics no outreach outreach yeah but like no because if you think about it if we're still
causing somebody to sin whether they're they're aware of the sin or if they're not and they want
to live in that denial of sin it's still sin so here so this is where I also was telling them that
kind of that kind of uh leaning that way with them and they said so is someone let's say someone
is at the beach and they're in their swimsuit and they take a picture on instagram to show their
family like hey look i'm i'm here on the beach with my my friends and stuff just like a photo
most people do that kind of stuff if someone takes that photo and sees it out of lust and desire
and no no not the same is not the same right because it was the intent right what's the intent
so their opinion was that their intent was to make money so that they can survive okay then that is
greedy i mean making money dude we do that every day well some of us do well you know our bills
take it but yeah um yeah i mean if it is to make money but here's the thing do you corrupt your
morals in in order to make money or do you stand morally on on solid ground and you say no i'm not
going to cause somebody else to fall into sin right well here's what i broke it down to and i want to
see if you think uh what you think of this because i i i broke it down to him and told him that like
the biblical terminology of sin itself it's vast yes and there's a lot of biblical context about it
but within biblical contest uh like context it suggests that sin has three major aspects
um which one is disobedience to or the breach of biblical law or violation of relationships with
people themselves and the last one was rebellion against god which is the most basic concept of
sin itself which obviously that's simplifying things which is like pretty close to oversimplification
of things um but if we bring to the hebrew terms of sin in general you got the word like hatat
which means a missing of a standard mark or goal like short you come shortcoming basically
you got the word pesa which means the breach of a relationship or a rebellion against and then you
got a one which means perseverance like uh in that sense and then you got sagaga which signifies
error or a mistake and then you got words like reza which means godliness and justice and
wickedness a ma which refers to sin means mischief of or oppression um you got those kind of things
that come in with these terms and uh including uh hamartia which was a greek word in the new testament
was signifying offenses against god's law people or god himself so you got these things saying what
sin is so usually it's really easy to say the question you're asking does it do any of those
things right yes i just that's how i broke it down to him i was like we we can look at a biblical
perspective and see what the words were used for sin and see what those words stood for because
the the words used are very very very very very very very very very very very very very very
very very very very very purposeful because how greek and hebrew language was written and how it
functioned is that each word has a lot more context so with us we can say oh that's good
and in hebrew they have all these different words for good so they specifically use uh one of the
So they specifically use one of the words used for good
to have its own context to it in specific settings
and situations and sentences, et cetera.
Everything's very purposeful.
Like I, in English, can say, oh, today was great.
And in Hebrew, they can say a sentence like,
today was great, but they use specific words that was,
today was one of the best days of my life
because it was good and prosperous.
And they said the same amount of words.
It's because the words they use in order
create a certain order to the contextual sentence.
And I think that's really cool,
but I think that's also why I brought that up is because
does that thing that you do
apply to any of these definitions of sin?
So.
Yeah, I mean, dang, that's,
there's a lot there.
Right, so,
it's hard because obviously images weren't something
that was really common back then,
like pictures and stuff like that, but yeah,
it's interesting.
It's interesting.
I mean, for the most part, I'd say that
if you know that, if you're to sell feet picks
and you know that it's going to constantly
the lust or whatever,
if you know it's gonna constantly fall short,
like I,
it's, you know, it'd be weird, but I think,
I feel like that has to fall in the line of,
yeah, like, because if you know somebody's
gonna use them for, you know, something,
I feel like that's definitely,
it doesn't sit right.
Well, you've got the lust argument, obviously,
which some people find that lustful,
but people nowadays say that
it's lustful, but people nowadays, sadly,
find a lot of things lustful and will be,
anything can be taken.
I get that, I get that, but what's the intent behind it?
The intent is to make money off of somebody else's sin.
Therefore, it is not okay and unjust.
Right.
So what are you leaning towards with this?
This is interesting.
Is it a sin?
No, it's not, I don't believe it is,
but I think that it is,
it's not a sin, but I think it is something
that is definitely,
you're profiting off of somebody else's sin and suffering,
which I think is a shady and very bad thing.
And I think it takes somebody who has,
somebody who either is very desperate
or somebody who is, well,
just manipulative and, you know, that's not okay.
So they brought up,
because this conversation went on way longer
than you'd expect it to,
they brought up, I think it was Song of Solomon's
chapter seven, have you ever,
how much have you been in Song of Solomon?
Not often, often?
I am so sorry.
I, can you repeat the question a little bit?
Yeah, I said, so they brought up Song of Solomon's,
how often have you been in Song of Solomon's?
Oh, not too often.
Not too often?
So they brought up Song of Solomon's
and they're like, Song of Solomon seven, right?
And I was like, okay, I know Song of Solomon
is to the bridegroom and the very first word,
or the very first verse in Song of Solomon seven,
how beautiful are your feet and sandals,
oh, prince's daughter, the curves of your hips
are like jewels, the work of your hands of an artist, right?
Yes, but when he's talking about that,
he's also talking about his wife.
Yeah, well, his bridegroom, like the bride.
He's talking about his fiance.
Right, and that bridegroom, right.
You know what you mean?
You know what you mean, but he's talking about his wife, his woman, okay?
And especially in those days, that was his concession.
That was what he owned.
That's how it was.
Okay, so he has every right to describe and talk about them.
Right.
Now, how would you feel if your wife was selling feet pits?
Well, that's the thing.
I don't know, because it's just.
No, no, I know.
It's a, you know, you know, other men are looking at your wife,
lusting over your wife.
How does that sit in with your heart?
That happens when we go to the mall.
I understand, but instead of it just being
what happens because they see or whatever, but it just being the intent of purposely
using that sin to make money.
How does that sit morally?
It's more, not less.
I, it's not a sin.
I'll say that now, but morally, I think it's more of a moral question.
How does that sit with your morals?
Honestly, for me personally, it doesn't bug me because if she's at the mall
or she's at the beach or we're at a pool, people do that crap,
that kind of stuff all the time.
That's a constant.
People are.
So then if people are going to sin, if you're going to be sinful, make a buck,
but I get paid out of it.
But is that any better?
It's a sin.
Wouldn't it be?
I mean, it's sin, but why?
Why make a bit?
I morally, I think why profit off of somebody else's sin and shortcoming?
Yeah, that's, that's kind of what it comes down to.
Right.
And that's kind of what I was talking to them about.
I was like, well, this is like, I understand where they were coming from saying
like, it's just a foot and it's money that helps me.
And it's just, it's my way of making extra cash so I can afford to do things
and take care of other people and using it for good.
And I'm like, do you feel wrong doing it?
They're like, no, because it's just a photo of my foot.
I mean, I go barefoot all the time.
I'm in sandals all the time.
I'm in, I'm like, yes, but you are doing it to a website that you specifically
know is like a sexual lusting desire kind of like kink thing that you're
specific.
That only feats.
I think it's feet finder.
I know, I was that one, the one thing's called that only fans or whatever,
which I was told was YouTube.
And then I went, I checked it out.
I'm like, this is not YouTube.
My friends thought it'd be funny.
You know, only fans like is for everything, not just like nudity, like you and me.
No, no.
Yeah.
Oh no.
I, you know that, but I was told, I was told, dude, you know, I'm not going to
do that.
I'm not going to do that.
You know that, but then I was told, I was told, go check it out.
It's really cool.
It's like YouTube.
And then, well, I did, I'm like, this is this point.
Most of it right now is I was going like, this is just, just, just don't you
jump was asked to make an alignment on this shit.
Talking mushrooms.
I heard that.
No, I mean, I'm just talking mushrooms.
We're talking about this.
It's just, it all depends on your heart.
Leave me alone.
I just had to walk upstairs because my, my, he's what's done.
You got married passionate really quick.
That's one word.
It was so betrayed.
I did it for my mama.
Oh, goodness.
No, but honestly, we can just cut that.
So it's all good.
No, no, can we at least cut the part where I messed up the prayer and said,
Hey Jason, do you want to like, um, to the, to the prayer?
No, that's perfect.
Look, this is the point.
People will listen in and be like, wow, these guys are really close friends.
And you know, I love our audience.
They're fantastic.
They've been waiting for us.
I smell the complete idiot.
You can't even talk.
They love you.
They come to leave ADHD, stupid best friend.
Oh my goodness.
Well, we're coming to the end of the podcast timeframe that I set up, but that's
okay about like, we got about like 15 minutes before I need to like cut it off.
Oh, 15 minutes.
So that sounds like we have enough time to do one more question.
Oh gosh.
That's a bonus question.
That's ESPN.
We're not sponsored.
But they hear this and they want to give us a sponsor.
I'm you know, as a non-sports podcast.
Hey, hey, you know, this is like, we don't like sports.
We're both in a fan football league that I am destroying this year.
And well, you, you actually doing this in the last year.
So I'm not going to see you then.
You're not in last.
No, I'm coming back.
I never, I never left.
I guess we'll never know.
Right.
Stupid.
But no, you know, seat picks, I think it is, I mean, if you have no moral problems
with it, you know, as somebody I'm open, I'll be open, but like as somebody who is,
you know, in the past, there's been struggles with pornography and stuff like that.
I just think it like, I personally couldn't do it to know that there might be a brother
or sister there who is struggling.
And if that's something that might either they might struggle with, or they might
just be getting dabbling into that type of sin.
Why would I help them fall further?
Fall further away from the kingdom of heaven.
Right.
That's what my main thing is.
Why would I put myself or put them in a position to struggle with a sin?
True. And I get that.
That's a good point.
OK, bonus question.
OK, get away from the listen.
We're just got this question like is the worst thing you pick?
No, not worse.
That one. No, no, listen, if we pick one, it's shocking.
Not shocking. I don't think this is shocking.
I think a lot of people deal with this on an everyday basis.
It's so cool. Every day.
Is it picking your nose and glove?
Like, because that needs to stop.
Yeah.
Oh, I'm so I'm like, yeah.
Farting in the public.
Because honestly, I find myself, you know, it's not.
That's not like before we did this, you know, you call someone who can't fart in public, right?
Hmm. They're a private tutor.
Yeah, I've heard that joke.
What a stupid joke.
Mm hmm.
Oh, OK, you're ready for this.
I am so ready.
Bonus round me, Jason.
Now, the question itself was a week ago, they they asked, is
it a week ago?
About a week ago. Yeah.
They asked, is it is it a sin to smoke weed?
This is a good question, considering that it's becoming more legal.
But I got the answer for this.
I already know everything.
OK, well, not everything. That sounds wrong.
It's amazing. Just walking up a flight of stairs.
The energy I feel now.
It's. Which is really sad.
Oh, yeah.
So this this does come into play where.
I think this is not just weed related.
I think this is any sort of drunkenness and sort of intoxication.
One of the main scriptures that use this, because I'll throw it out there.
We're going to talk about like drunkenness and intoxication in that sense,
because weed does get you, you know, high.
I don't know, Jason.
I know it does.
Like, I'd never experienced it myself, but I never.
Yeah, part of it.
Now, there's a lot of people that I've talked to
that also say the same thing, like, well, you know, it's a plant, it's natural.
It's like the thing of like saying it's good for you.
It calms you, whatever.
But there is a difference between like under a doctor's
and drug supervision of a doctor for medicinal purposes to help you.
And then smoking marijuana for the sole purpose of altering one state
of consciousness and losing self-control, because that part is sinful.
Because you could see like in Galatians five in verse 21,
when it talks about, well, 19 to 21, where it talks about the works of the flesh,
which is sin.
In verse 21, it says drunkenness.
Now, the word drunkenness there is meth.
So meth is funny meth.
But meth. Oh, my gosh.
And that word, right in the Bible.
Yeah. And that word meth is intoxication, drunkenness,
that altercation to your your ability to process.
So, right. That's that's the whole point of it.
And that's that's important because that in itself is labeled as sin.
So even when it comes to alcohol, we're not to get drunk because that's sinful.
We are not to intoxicate ourselves to the point to where we can't function
because that's sinful.
There's a place to where I had the argument where someone was like, well,
go to surgery, knocked out or laughing gas or whatever, all this stuff.
It's like that's under the supervision of someone that's trying to help you.
It's not for you to purposely do that.
You're not going there to give me a hit of gas, get high.
You're doing it to, you know, protect your body, take care of your body.
So there's a difference.
There's a difference of actionable things to get to that point. Right.
Like, I'm not going to the store and buying morphine so I can get lit,
you know, because you can't.
That that's that's what I was coming across.
What you do. So go ahead.
I mean, like the I believe it's the Greek, the Hebrew,
which literally is talking about the altered state of mind or thinking.
So it's any substance that gives you an altered mind, a state of thinking.
Or thinking is drunkenness.
And that's when it's referring to as a sin.
So I think anything like that,
that does that, that, you know, maybe it's, you know.
Weed, alcohol.
Any drug that there can even be that was a food.
Some people, you know, over the ever, but it's a food.
They get the stimulatedness like, oh, I'm really into this food.
So I think it's anything that alters the way you think.
Right. Is it so I mean, that's like not just, you know,
just to hate on on weed.
And I get there are there's a medical.
Thanks. Your medical process to that as well.
But there's also different forms of marijuana.
I want to I don't know this TTC, see whatever the hell.
I know all the crap that goes with all those are strange
and different ways that works.
But you can have the stuff that does it give you the high.
It just has the medical purposes of it.
So that's why I argue that going, well, what is the purpose of what you're doing?
If it's for the medical purpose and your purpose, the using for that
and not using it for a purpose of getting high
and having that altered state,
then if it's for medical reasons to reduce pain,
how was Gow or something like that are medically subscribed and that is all fine.
Yeah. But if people who I've seen people, it's sad
who are dependent on it or they have anxiety and they have to.
They're not high.
They're riddled with anxiety.
And it's a crutch almost because instead of learning how to how to deal
with our feelings and anxieties and our troubles,
and instead of giving them to the Lord or something like that.
They are relying on,
you know, on altering their their way of thinking.
So they lie. Basically, this is a lie to themselves.
The same thing with alcohol.
It you know, I drink so I, you know, the judge, you know, this is all
this trouble, you know, I need to give you a couple of shots, you know,
like it's it and it's sad, but you know, that's a lot of what the world does.
The world's like, hey, medicate yourself so you don't have to feel anything.
Life sucks.
I say life, life can suck.
Give the crappy parts to God and rejoice in what he's done for you.
You're still here.
So that's my whole thought on that.
It's the same as, um, uh, what is it?
Luke 21, thirty four and take heed to yourselves.
Let at lest at any time of your hearts be overcharged with,
surfating and drunkenness and care of this life.
And so that that day come upon you unaware.
So that's like trend word for word translation.
Let me make it.
Here we go. So but take heed to yourself.
Lest hap, lest happily to your hearts be overcharged with,
surfating and drunkenness and cares of this life.
And that day on you suddenly as snare.
Even when it came down to first Peter five, eight, be sober, be vigilant
because your adversary, the devil, as a.
About seeking whom he may devour.
And that word sober there is actually the word nafo.
Nafo is to be calm, collected in spirit, to be temperate
and dispassionate and circumspect.
Circumspact. So that that's what that word means there.
So when it says to be sober, mine is to be sober with a calm and collected
in spirit, to be temperate.
Dispassionate and circumspect.
That is what that word means.
So when it's saying to be sober.
In Greek, it's not just, oh, you know,
don't get drunk, it's like it's a lot more than that.
And it's all contextual.
But you're right, there's a lot to where self control is very important.
And we know in biblical standpoint that self control is something
that we need to be on top of and.
You're right. So one of my you know, I might be able to drink
like one glass of wine and I'm good.
I'm not drunk. I'm not buzzed.
It's just I like taste of wine. It's delicious.
And you might have a shot of peanut butter whiskey and have to go lay down.
It's delicious. And then there's other friends that I have that do not drink
because they feel like it's wrong.
So around them, I won't drink because I don't want to lead them into that
temptation if they really feel like it's wrong for them to do so.
It's like that James 417 again, where they feel like it's sin to do it.
Then they're not going to do it.
And I'm not going to encourage them to go against what they feel is wrong.
And it like I have a friend that Lily drinks one beer and he already buzzed
and he's drunk.
So I usually don't try to drink around them because I don't want to encourage
him to be drunk because I know as a brother in Christ, I don't want to
encourage that that sin.
That's as easy as it gets.
And this applies in my in our perspective here.
In our perspective here of being a sober mind, weed would count as that.
You don't want to cause a friend to sin, but you'll have a stranger sin.
No problem with your feet pics.
Right.
Well, no, that's an interesting point because if you're at a bar and there's
an alcoholic there and you're drinking casually and they're like, well,
everyone else is going on, that's not your responsibility, is it?
Because you don't know.
If you don't know they have a problem.
All right.
No.
Right.
So there's this little thing on a site that is meant for you know who is going
there.
Yeah, we established this one.
Yeah, we established we established that.
But there's intent there and taking advantage of someone else's desires and
wants and lustful needs.
Okay.
If there's somebody out there who wants a picture of my big hairy feet,
I'm not going to lie.
I could use some cut with Brent and the person's presence this month.
So I'm going to open up the intro and be like today's episode.
Feet, please don't.
This is good.
I mean, it's been a little bit since we recorded, so we're a little rusty, but
you know, things sweet honey iced tea.
I'm all for you.
Should talk to you.
Most of them get passionate.
I know this.
We did.
You know, when you get lied to, you think you're going to a new YouTube.
It's possible to have cool videos and yet click on there and there's feet picks.
People were trying to sell you there.
Listen, listen, I'm not trying to get you up and riled up again.
Just gets my gears going.
Nobody knows what it means, but for a box.
No, it's a we're going to wrap this up real quick, but that yeah, that just reminds me
that there's verses that talk about passions like us being passionate.
And like Colossians three five put to death.
Therefore, what is earthly in you and what is earthly?
It says sexual morality, impurity, passion, evil desire, covetness, which is idolatry
and Colossians three.
No, five.
Sorry, Galatians.
What was it?
I'm trying to remember.
Oh, Galatians five 24.
Those who belong to Christ have crucified the flesh with it.
Passions and desires.
I think we could get away with an episode just talking about passion.
This is why I brought that up.
This is true.
Right.
Some passionate people sometimes.
So we're passionate.
Yeah, we're.
The word passion, there's the kind of.
Bring it in there.
The word passion like in Colossians five is.
What is it called?
Inordinate affection is the literal translation of that word, which we take as passionate.
But the word there is actually inordinate affection, which is pathos.
But suffer like the passionate deed using is used by the Greeks in either a good or a bad sense.
Affliction of the mind, emotion, passion.
Definitely.
But it usually revolves around affection and lust and.
Emotional passion, which is interesting, but we might we might record a whole episode.
Oh, yeah.
Really easy to.
Yeah.
So we're going to wrap this up.
This has been about.
An hour, I think we I think we covered a lot of ground.
We did a lot of stuff.
This is good.
Come back after three weeks.
Yes, we will be more consistent.
Yay.
We're switching our post days to Friday, by the way, for anybody that's still listening
after some of the drops of words that we have said.
Yeah, you know, it happens and.
Got passionate.
Yeah, it's going to keep going.
I keep going.
And you know.
Yep.
All right, cool.
Well, I want to say let's let's call it good.
We're going to record as well for next Friday and next this Friday and then the next Friday
and then the next day, then the next day, the next day, all Fridays.
So be expecting our schedule switching to Fridays.
It's a lot easier for us both, especially for the next two weeks.
It's a lot easier for us both, especially with the time change.
California.
Hey, you didn't change.
Don't know.
Yeah, I changed.
Yeah, what the heck?
Last time you about time we could.
I don't care where you land up politically.
I'm just glad that we can all agree that it's dumb.
Don't talk to me about time.
Mr. Mr. Like an hour ahead.
What's the future like?
It's bland.
Oh, wow.
OK, well, and as with storytelling.
Here we go.
Dear Lord, thank you for this day.
I thank you for all the listeners, Lord.
I thank you from my brother, Jason, that we were able to meet up and start recording
some more. Pray that you just take time to reflect on what we talked about today and
that anybody hearing this be able to grow and grow in the word and experience more.
If they have questions, Lord, that they be comfortable enough to ask or reach out to
somebody you learn, if they feel comfortable to ask.
Keep everybody safe, has protection on all listeners and everybody you know, love.
Amen. Amen. All right, everybody. See you on the next episode.
Yeah. See you on the flip flop.
Bye.