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Welcome to the Gospel Truth Project Podcast.

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I'm your host, Jason Cooper, and I've got my co-host here.

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Hey, it's me, Dylan.

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What's up, Dylan?

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How are you doing today?

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I am doing good.

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A little hot here, but oh well.

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I think it's funny when you talk about Heat because for those who don't know, he's Californian.

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And me being in Phoenix, Arizona area, greater Phoenix area in general, Heat is usually my

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best friend here.

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That's crazy to me.

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How hot is it over there right now?

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It is a beautiful 94.

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It's actually hotter there than it is here.

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It's only 87 here.

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I don't know if you did, but you know, dang.

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I prayed that you'd experienced my troubles.

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No, no, that's the reason I live here.

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The reason I live here.

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70 to 75, perfect.

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Beautiful.

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No, that's too cold.

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This morning I got up.

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Too cold.

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Listen, this morning I got up, got to my car and it was like 68 degrees and I was like,

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brr, I need my jacket.

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You are ridiculous.

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I was about to go full on winter coat here.

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Oh my gosh.

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Ridiculous.

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It's amazing.

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So what's going on with you?

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What's exciting going on?

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What are you up to?

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I just met on Wednesday.

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So I just getting ready for youth group today, tomorrow and the podcast.

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That's pretty much it.

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That's my agenda today.

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That's exciting.

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Cut this one out a little bit shorter than normal because we are running behind.

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Yeah, I mean, OK, don't worry.

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We got content for this one.

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Last week I know.

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Yeah, of course we do.

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Last week we I know we talked about like, hey, we don't know what we're going to talk

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about next week.

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And that was true.

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And throughout the week just been texting back and forth like, what if we talk about

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this?

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What if we talk about this?

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And I think we got a good topic to talk about this week.

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But we do have a topic already for next week.

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Yeah, which which I am excited to go over and it's going to be a little bit more intense.

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So this episode is going to be a little bit easier and a little bit more straightforward,

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I guess is a good way to put it.

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Yeah, definitely.

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I'm glad we came to a decision because we had too many and that was the cover issue

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and we're like, what are we going to do?

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We have this idea, we have that idea.

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So I have some good shows lined up in the next two weeks.

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I think a lot of like you and me, we have a lot of ideas that we want to do.

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And some of those ideas take a little bit more study and then last minute or a day before

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or something like a little bit more research to make sure that we are, you know, portraying

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the right light on those subjects.

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So as you notice, the first couple of subjects that we have done are a little bit more easier

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to get into, understand like prosperity gospel.

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What is it?

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That kind of stuff is a little bit more simplistic and easy to understand, which is good.

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And it's just very, very easy to look at the Bible and say, oh, yeah, that is biblical

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or yeah, this is biblical.

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So today we are actually going to go on the topic of sin and what is it?

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What is sin?

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That's a good question.

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That's a question too.

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You know, I feel like nowadays there's a lot of, you know, well, it says it's the same,

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but why?

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And like it gets into a lot of that type of stuff of like, well, is it, is it a sin?

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Is it really a sin and stuff like that?

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I mean, there's some topics we could maybe, we may talk on, I don't know.

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We'll see where it goes here the next, you know, 45 or so.

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But you know, this is, if you just think about what is sin, you know, yeah, it's just, it's

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like, it's the absence of God without God.

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I believe that's, I'm honestly, it's the Hebrew or Greek, but then you've got some Bible

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verses here you wanted to share with real quick.

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One right off the bat that because we, as Christians, we talk a lot about sin in general

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and a lot of issues we see nowadays is that people and media and people who say, oh, I'm

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Christian or something like that.

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And then you see them in the media where they're just like, you're going to hell because you

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sinned.

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And I think obviously that's a wrong way of proclaiming God's love by, you know, doing

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it that way.

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It's not love.

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It's not loving.

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It's not love.

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You have to meet the person.

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At, you know, where they need to be met.

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You know, you can't just be, you're a sinner.

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You're going to hell.

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It's like, well, we all are sinners.

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You know, in a sense, we've all fallen short.

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So I mean, you got to be in a loving way, but there's sometimes you do need to be, there's

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a time and place for harshness, I believe, but sometimes, I mean, not harsh, but tough

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love is a place for tough love.

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But there's also a time to be understanding and loving.

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Right.

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And the reason why to bring that up is because a lot of times we use the term sin and people

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who do not understand who God is or what Christianity is for the most part, they'll look at that

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and like, I don't know what sin is.

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And the generic idea of sin is like Sin City Vegas.

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It's like prostitutes and drugs and alcoholism.

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Like, you know, that kind of stuff.

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There's a lot, you know, people to think of the problem is what I think we get caught

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up with with sin is that we look at through our eyes, not God's eyes necessarily.

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Because see, for us, it's like, oh, well, this is worse than that sin.

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Oh, murder is worse than telling a white lie.

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But you got to like, it says that all sins are the same in the Lord's eye.

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Whether we can actually see that in Galatians five, which we talk about a lot because I

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love that.

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This is all you need.

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I mean, right.

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Not really.

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But no, no, but it's a good place to start because it talks about, you know, what is

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like walk by the spirit because if we accepted Jesus, like we talked about a week before

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in salvation was that we walk by the spirit that's gifted to us from Christ.

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We accept him, desires of the flesh are against the spirit and desires of the spirit are against

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the flesh.

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And then it goes on to say what the desires of flesh are.

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And that's kind of what that that's what sin is, is against what God is.

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And so you can see that it's wrapped up in 19 Galatians five, 19, where it talks about

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sexual morality, impurity, sensuality, adultery, sorcery, and meditators, strife, jealousy,

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fits of anger, rivalries, dissensions, divisions, envy, drunkenness, orgies.

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But you can see that there's a range of stuff there that we say is a range.

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As humans, we look at that and like, well, fits of anger, you get mad sometimes.

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Oh, you get a little jealous sometimes.

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But man orgies.

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But in the same sense, never those orgies.

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That's not too far.

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So if you see this from a biblical perspective, that's all one thing.

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That's all left or right.

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Spirit or flesh.

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That's the whole thing.

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Sin itself is black and white.

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And that's something I think people need to understand is that when you're walking a Christian

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lifestyle, sin is very black and white.

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It's either it is part of God and the Holy Spirit and what he wants to bring or it's

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not.

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Simple as it gets.

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That's why we talked about the fruit of spirit.

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Yeah, we talked about the fruit of spirit, which is what God brings.

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And if it doesn't line up with those things that you could see that they're not of God

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because those are of God.

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That was one of the verses I wanted to bring up.

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But we as Christians talk about one thing I wanted to bring up is first John one nine,

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which you might know.

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But it's if we freely admit that we have sinned and confess our sins, he is faithful and just

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true to his own nature and promises and will forgive our sins and cleanse us continually

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from all unrighteousness, our wrongdoing, everything not in conformity with his will

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and purpose.

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So that right there can sum up anything that's not his will and purpose in our life.

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Everything not in conformity with it is wrongdoing, that it's unrighteousness, it's it's sin.

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So that's something to keep in mind.

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What do you take from that?

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I just thought I was talking.

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I thought I was talking back to you for a little bit and I had my mic was muted.

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Hilarious.

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Can you repeat the question?

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I totally I know myself off.

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No, it's just it's just that verse where it talks about that will forgive our sins and

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cleanse us continually from all unrighteousness, our wrongdoing, everything that is in which

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is not in conformity of his will and purpose.

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So anything outside his will and purpose is wrongdoing, sin and unrighteousness, right?

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Anything that is not of the Lord.

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Yes.

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Yes.

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And is anything that is not of God or, you know, not yeah, not of God, as God has made

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clear what he wants and what he expects from us.

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And if we don't do that, whether it's like he says that's a lie, whether it is a dramatic

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big lie or it's, you know, like saying my hair is super thick and lush, like it's long,

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it's, you know, luscious, luscious logs.

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And, you know, that's a lie.

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Like, it's not a big lie to say, no, I have my father's hair.

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It's fine.

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It's cool.

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I look forward to going bald.

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Art.

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More bald.

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I'm not really that bald, but you know.

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That puts it in perspective that we as humans think of levels when God himself thinks of

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is it or is it not?

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That's it.

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That's it.

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Actually, first John three, four through five through three, first John chapter three, verse

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four and five, everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness.

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Sin is lawlessness.

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You know that he appeared in order to take away sins and in him there is no sins.

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So no one who abides in him keeps on sinning and no one who keeps on sinning has either

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seen him or knowing him.

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And if you look into this from a perspective, when it's talking about like keeps on sinning,

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it's talking about living a sinful life, right?

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And that's true is that we fight the flesh now.

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I'm not perfect.

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No one's perfect.

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But my lifestyle does not revolve around sin anymore.

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My lifestyle is not sinful in the sense that I do not live to sin.

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My point and my purpose of my life is to live for Christ, to live in the word and to read

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and to let the Holy Spirit guide me and interact with people with like we talked about before.

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So not living in sin.

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That's the whole point is that if we abide in him, we don't keep living in sin.

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We are now renewed, right?

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Yeah, 100%.

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Because accepting Jesus is basically saying it's denying your flesh, denying your sin,

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full nature and saying, no, I'm choosing God, I'm choosing Christ.

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And then not saying there's still not going to be the temptation, so there's still not

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going to be the, oh, like, you know, it's like basically, you know, there's a pie sitting

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there, like the classic cartoon, like there's a pie sitting there, you're like, that pie

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looks really good.

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But you know you shouldn't be eating it.

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Why shouldn't I, Dylan?

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Because it's temptation right there, the pie.

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You know, it's like, this is a nice French apple pie.

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You know, you got vanilla ice cream in the freezer.

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Like it just sounds good.

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Like, why not?

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Just one slice of pie ain't gonna hurt, right?

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You say that, you end up eating the whole pie and then, you know, you're 20 pounds

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heavier going like, what happened?

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That brings up 1 Corinthians 10 13, actually.

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No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man.

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God is faithful and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability.

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But with the temptation, he will also provide the way of escape that you may be able to

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endure it.

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How's them for apples?

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Well, it's not apple pie, but yeah.

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It's true.

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The temptation and like that and he does, he gives you the strength.

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It was like Philippians 4 13, I can do all things through Christ, which strengthens me.

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I need to remember that sometimes because there's times where there's apple pie and

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I'm like hmm.

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That looks really good.

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It's interesting to me that if you go into what I just read, the first Corinthians 10

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13, if you take the no temptation has overtaken, if you read the original Greek translation

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of that, it's actually more, there's more context there.

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It's no temptation, regardless of its source has overtaken or enticed you that is not common

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to human experiences.

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I think that's a really cool way to say it because some people are like, well, we have

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technology nowadays and things so readily available for a guy.

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certain temptations or it's like using technology and advancement in human science and stuff

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like that as a crutch to why you can keep on living a sinful life when in reality you're

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just finding excuses for yourself to keep on living in that way.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I think what is it?

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I think of what I've always been told to like, you know, by coaches and stuff like my dad,

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it's like, well, excuses are like buttholes, you know, everybody's got one.

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That's the way to put it.

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I mean, I was never told it wasn't exactly said buttholes.

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I was used, you know, something else.

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So just keep it PG.

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Oh, they were used.

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Everybody's got an excuse for something.

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Everybody has one.

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You know, whether it's like, oh, well, you know, I just drink a little, you know, because,

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you know, I get tired off of work, I was relaxed.

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Like, oh, you know, I don't get drunk that often.

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It's okay.

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You know, I only do this a little bit.

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It's like, right, it goes back to the whole thing.

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A little bit, right.

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It's still, you know, I don't know why it's the goes to basketball or like a sport for

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still it's still points on the board.

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Like, still counts.

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Like, you can't just pick and choose like, well, it's not really because, you know, it's

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just not big enough.

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Like, you know, nothing's too big or too small for the Lord.

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I mean, I mean, that it sounds like they able to heal people and they do miracles.

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And also he keeps that standard thing across the board.

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And yeah, I think it's important to that we classified sin and what it is.

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And I think it's important to know where sin comes from because it comes from somewhere.

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Where could that be?

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We know that God is good.

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Everything good comes from God.

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And that is right.

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That's biblical truth all the time.

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And when it comes down to all the time, we know that.

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So when I've had people come up to me and say, you know, and say, hey, if God is good,

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why does sin exist or why do bad things happen?

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And I know this one.

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Oh, yeah.

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Go for it.

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Well, it's because we live in a fallen world.

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People need to know, I hear that a lot too, like, well, why do people get sick?

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Why do people get cancer?

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Why is there all this bad stuff and disease in the world?

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It's like, well, there wasn't.

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The initial plan wasn't for there to be any of that.

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Adam and Eve had it made.

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And they're like, you know what?

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We have choice.

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The whole thing.

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We have choice.

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And free will is what makes us well, you know, it's us.

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And that also is the reason that we are in the situation we are in.

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First John chapter one, eight through 10 says, if we say we have no sin, refusing to admit

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that we are sinners, we delude ourselves and the truth is not in us.

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His word does not live in our hearts.

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If we freely admit that we have sinned and confessed our sins, he is faithful and just,

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true to his own nature and promises and will forgive our sin and cleanse us continually

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from unrighteousness, wrongdoing, everything not as conformity with his will and purpose.

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If we say that we have not sinned, refusing to admit access and we make him out to be

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a liar by contradicting him and his word is not in us.

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And that's really important because we can look at it and say, you know, where does this

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come from?

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And we can see that it comes from our from us.

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Like we say that's in our hearts.

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We're sinful beings, right?

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And it's always comes down to interesting where I think the Bible actually talks about

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where sin comes from, which is, oh, I got it here.

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I found it.

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It's in Acts seven, 20 to 23.

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And he said, whatever comes from the heart of a man, that is what defiles and dishonors

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him for from within that is out of the hearts of men come base and malevolent.

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How do you say that word?

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Thoughts and schemes, acts of sexual immorality, deaths, murder, adulteries, acts of greed,

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covetousness, wickedness, deceit, unrestrained conduct, envy, jealousy, slander, profanity,

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arrogance and self-righteousness and foolishness, poor judgment.

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All these evil things, schemes and desires come from within and defile and dishonor the

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man.

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It's because God is good and he gives us the free will to choose him or the opposite.

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And we already clarified that sin itself is the opposite of God's will.

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That's it.

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It's the opposite of what God's will and purpose in our lives.

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And what is his will and purpose in our lives, Jason?

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Even better.

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Do you have verses for this one?

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No, I don't have any of those verses.

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I have John and Matthew, Mark.

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I have all these other verses up right now, but I cannot find the notes.

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So I have all my Bible study things open right now and I can't find, I got like 20 tabs open

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and I'm trying to search through it.

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That's fine.

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So Bible say about God's purposes.

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So we know first off Romans 8 28 says that we know that for those who love God, all things

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work together for good and for those who are called according to his purpose.

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And when it comes down to it, verse after verse after verse, it says that it's his purpose.

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We pray for his will to be done.

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We pray for his guidance.

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We pray for his thing.

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And I think the reason why it's not, it usually isn't very specific on what that looks like

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outside of, okay, I'll say outside of this outside of loving others outside of living

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in the word, reading the word, praying to him, getting involved with him, sharing the

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gospel that kind of stuff is our purpose.

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But that's God's purpose for us is to bring more people to his love and his understanding

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and what he's here for.

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And I think that's why it's always saying like, this is our role in things and this

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is what God wants us to do.

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And that's God's purpose.

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And that can look a little bit different per person.

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Like for you, it's being in ministry for the youth.

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Fantastic.

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Right.

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My purpose might be different.

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I might be making this podcast and making sure it's up and running.

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It might be pastoring someday.

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We don't know.

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That's the whole point is that the Bible transcends time because God's outside time.

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So his purpose is very purposeful.

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Wow.

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That's a PK.

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Wow.

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No, but you're right.

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You're right.

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Oh man.

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I just think that was really good.

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Yeah.

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There's a lot to this and I think it's really important to understand that you can't just

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take things at face value.

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If someone's telling you this is what it is and then you're just like, oh yeah, I'll take

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that as a word.

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I don't want you to take my word for it.

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I don't want you to take Dylan's word for it.

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Like people need to look this up.

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Oh, read.

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Like I said, I think I said it, I don't know, maybe the first or second podcast, but I tell

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my students too, I'm like, okay, if you hear somebody like quote a Bible verse or they

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say something, check it up, pull it up.

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We have the resource.

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Just because they're in a place of authority or leadership doesn't mean they can't be called

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out.

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Not like necessarily called out, but like in a respectful way, be like, hey, let me

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like as accountability, make sure they're being honest and maybe they were wrong.

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I always try to catch Jason.

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It's more of a game for me.

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I'm like, oh, what did you say, Romans?

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I'm like, oh, he was right in there.

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I'm like, I ain't going to call him out.

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That's good because I think it was an act 17 where the Barians, the Barians, I think

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that's how you pronounce it.

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They were more noble than those in Thessalonica, which because when Peter, I think it was Peter

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that went to preach to him and they corrected him.

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Right.

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And I think it was Peter, was it Peter?

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It actually might have been John.

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Now I got to look it up.

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I was trying to look it up.

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I was trying to look it up real quick so I could see.

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But I noticed act 17 where the Barians corrected who was with them preaching to him and said,

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well, no, actually the Bible says this, like scripture says this.

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And he was like, wow, you corrected me.

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Thank you.

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And he valued that because when you're giving correction, it's fantastic because I want

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to grow.

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I want to learn.

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I want to know more.

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I want to be strengthened based on what I'm saying.

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That's really, I think that's a really crucial thing about being a Christian in general is

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that learning more and acquiring more knowledge and things like this so you can discuss it

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better for people who have questions.

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Otherwise, if someone comes up to you and starts asking you questions, you're like,

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ah, it's in there somewhere.

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Yeah, it's true.

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It's part of being a Christian and having your faith is always to be growing and to

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be learning because as soon as you put, you can't put God in a box.

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You can't put your faith in a box.

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If you put it in a box, it's not going to grow.

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People stay as small as you allow yourself to be, like you should constantly be trying

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to push yourself and grow.

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That's intimidating.

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It is.

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I'm in leadership and it's like, ah, how am I growing?

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Can I be doing this more?

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Or can I be doing more to help?

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I find the most biggest time I probably push myself and I should do it more.

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When I go to Mexico, it's like, oh, dang, okay, I don't understand everybody.

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I don't know what I'm doing.

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But I know that I'm like, oh, when you knew this pizza oven, I can lift heavy things.

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Okay, I can go be a blessing that way and just waking up and not necessarily knowing

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how you're going to serve the Lord, but that's all you wake up.

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That's all you're going to do.

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It puts it in a perspective that's a little bit different.

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It's like, whoa.

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Okay.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's it's first Peter 3, 15, 3, 15 that says, but in your heart, set Christ apart

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as Lord, always be ready to give a logical defense to anyone who asked you to account

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for the hope and confident assurance elicited by faith that is within you.

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Yet do it with gentleness and respect.

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That's what you reminded me there of.

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Oh, dang.

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That's pretty good.

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Yeah, it's a good important verse because I see it a lot of times where I even I have

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brothers and sisters in Christ who are like, they this is wrong.

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They need to stop this.

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And I told them off because of it, and I'm like, you did what?

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What are you doing?

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Like it needs to be respectful, calm, like gentleness is one of the traits of the Holy

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Spirit.

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And if you're not reflecting that, then I have some questions for you because we talked

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about this last week where salvation is part of that is that you get the Holy Spirit within

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you and part of that is gentleness.

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And if you can't discuss with someone in a gentle manner, then I might ask you, are you

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are you sure you're connected with Christ and who he is and what his real purpose is

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in your life and make sure that you're staying connected, you know?

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Dylan, I think your mic is me.

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Yes, it was.

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I, you know, it is you got to make sure I click it.

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So I unmute myself.

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I was sitting there going like, yeah.

486
00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,120
And I was like, I don't even remember what I was saying anymore.

487
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:22,640
But you know, it's too dang hot.

488
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,040
Yeah, it's so hard.

489
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:31,400
This is where the Lord can test your patience and a lot of other things.

490
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,800
It's when it's hot.

491
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:40,080
Yeah, I think if anybody knows me that they know that my favorite book is James.

492
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,080
And I said that before.

493
00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,320
I think you said it every podcast to this point.

494
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:48,280
Every podcast, every single one.

495
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:52,800
So one thing I want to, if you haven't read it, read James four.

496
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:59,400
And the reason why I say James four is because it talks about that our flesh is what we fight

497
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:00,960
against, right?

498
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:07,480
That we want to submit ourselves to God and resist the devil and he'll flee from you and

499
00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:12,840
resist resist temptation, those things that do tempt us.

500
00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:20,560
And it's it's funny because I think it's very important to understand that it's not like

501
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:24,960
some mystical force out there with more power than you can ever imagine.

502
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,280
That's like playing you like a puppet.

503
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:29,600
It's literally just your flesh.

504
00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:31,800
Your flesh desires that of the world.

505
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:37,000
And that is what we're at war against every single day is that our flesh does crave those

506
00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,720
things.

507
00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:43,000
I had one person come up to me and we were talking about this a couple of years ago where

508
00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,960
they felt wrong and felt like they were in the wrong because they craved those things

509
00:30:47,960 --> 00:30:53,120
like they were they were craving alcohol because they used to be an alcoholic and they were

510
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:58,640
craving drugs because they were clean for five years and they were craving it.

511
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:01,360
And they felt like they were sinning because they were craving it.

512
00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:03,760
I was like, that's temptation.

513
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:05,280
Temptation in itself is not a sin.

514
00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,760
Jesus was tempted in the desert from from the devil.

515
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:14,120
But when it came down to it, it's the choices you make at the end of the day and to rely

516
00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:19,800
on God and drawing near to God so that he can keep us clean and purify us.

517
00:31:19,800 --> 00:31:21,240
That's what you need to be doing.

518
00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:22,240
That's the goal.

519
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,460
Yeah, not necessarily the temptation to do it because your flesh is going to crave it

520
00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:28,320
one day.

521
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,600
And the next day and the next day and the next day, you know, it's not going to stop.

522
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:38,120
And that's like I had a pretty pretty awesome youth leader.

523
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:39,760
I'm not a youth leader.

524
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:44,840
I think it was actually it was college ministry at the time.

525
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,960
He said he was talking for the men.

526
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:53,080
He's like, hey, you know, temptation of like lust and all that stuff.

527
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,600
He's like, hey, that's something you guys need to get a hold on.

528
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,240
Like and try like get accountability.

529
00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:03,920
You know, this is like it does not change when you get older just because you get married.

530
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:08,480
Temptations, your temptations, no matter what you go through, what they are, will always

531
00:32:08,480 --> 00:32:09,480
be there.

532
00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:13,600
It's like unless you're grounded in the word and have accountability and a team.

533
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:14,600
True.

534
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:15,600
You will fail.

535
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:23,240
And it's like, dang, it's like it's because we live in a world that is so fallen and you

536
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,080
need Jesus to get through it.

537
00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:27,080
Right.

538
00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:34,320
So in Romans 12, one to two, it says, I appeal to you, therefore, brothers, by the mercies

539
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:39,640
of God to present your bodies as living sacrifice, holy and acceptable to God, which is your

540
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:41,040
spiritual worship.

541
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:45,840
Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind that

542
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,440
by testing you may discern what is the will of God and what is good and acceptable and

543
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,560
perfect.

544
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:59,000
That's the basic English translation to understand what is being talked there.

545
00:32:59,000 --> 00:33:04,320
And I think it's important because by the renewing of your mind, if you again, going

546
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:11,960
back to original Greek, Greek words have more like read between the lines kind of thing.

547
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:15,000
What's the what's the terminology there that I'm trying to think of here?

548
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:18,320
I can't do what I'm trying to say in context.

549
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880
Yeah, it has no context.

550
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:21,960
There's no context before.

551
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:22,960
Yeah.

552
00:33:22,960 --> 00:33:24,040
Yeah, more context.

553
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:29,760
So when you look at renewing of your mind in context, if you look at scripture from

554
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:36,360
a Greek standpoint, your renewing of the mind is focusing on godly values and ethical attitudes

555
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:43,240
so that you may prove for yourself what the will of God is and that which is good and

556
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,360
acceptable and perfect in his plan and purpose for you.

557
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:53,960
And I think that's important because it's your renewed, which means that your focus

558
00:33:53,960 --> 00:33:59,480
change like I said before, and you said before, it's the idea that we're not living that

559
00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:02,220
sinful life anymore.

560
00:34:02,220 --> 00:34:03,220
We do sin.

561
00:34:03,220 --> 00:34:04,220
Yes.

562
00:34:04,220 --> 00:34:08,640
But our focus and our goal and we strive for Christ and getting closer to him, drawing

563
00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:14,480
near to him and reading up on him and getting close to him.

564
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,120
A lot of people who do struggle with sin usually do it.

565
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,920
Now this is just what I've noticed.

566
00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:29,800
When people do struggle with sin more, it's you can see that it correlates closely to

567
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,840
them studying and getting close to God more or not.

568
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:40,320
If I'm reading the Bible five times a week and praying all day every day or in general,

569
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,920
I'm like connecting to God.

570
00:34:42,920 --> 00:34:44,080
Exactly.

571
00:34:44,080 --> 00:34:46,080
I'm floating on air.

572
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:48,760
I'm so involved in the Holy Spirit.

573
00:34:48,760 --> 00:34:53,360
I feel great because I feel that peace at presence of God with me.

574
00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:54,360
Continue.

575
00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:55,360
Go on.

576
00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:56,360
Say what you're saying.

577
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,360
I'm babbling now.

578
00:34:57,360 --> 00:34:58,360
I know.

579
00:34:58,360 --> 00:34:59,360
I had to unmute myself.

580
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:07,000
But no, like the more you're walking with the Lord, the harder you're like, I think

581
00:35:07,000 --> 00:35:12,160
I said last time, but the more you're walking with him, the more there's going to be the

582
00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:18,880
enemy attacking you because you are doing the work for the Lord and for the kingdom.

583
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,640
Because you're doing that, there's going to be more struggle.

584
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,200
There's going to be attacks on you.

585
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:33,240
That's why you have to dig into the word more, be more equipped, being more ready to go.

586
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:38,240
I remember I felt I had a grip on it and then getting the leadership into ministry.

587
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:39,240
I'm like, whoa.

588
00:35:39,240 --> 00:35:45,800
I'm like, get hit with depression, get hit with this temptation like crazy.

589
00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:48,440
I was going like, what the heck?

590
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:49,960
What is this?

591
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:51,880
I thought I was in leadership now.

592
00:35:51,880 --> 00:35:54,880
It's going to be easier.

593
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:56,720
I don't have everybody talking about it.

594
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:02,440
I think it's a big thing too is that a lot of the temptation, I just broke a pen.

595
00:36:02,440 --> 00:36:03,440
Oh well.

596
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:04,440
I heard that.

597
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:15,720
If my sister's listening to the podcast, please don't let mom know that I broke her pen.

598
00:36:15,720 --> 00:36:23,000
What the thing is though is that there's a whole, think of not wanting to talk about

599
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,800
when you're struggling.

600
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,600
There's a lot of that, the enemy wanting us to feel like you're alone.

601
00:36:29,600 --> 00:36:32,240
I think that happens so much.

602
00:36:32,240 --> 00:36:40,400
You're told like, oh, 60% of pastors deal with pornography.

603
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:41,400
It's high.

604
00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:46,120
Which is like 60, that's 60, that's a lot.

605
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:50,440
It's even worse when you think of that 60% that's been confessed about it.

606
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:54,240
I think that was like, I like to say they're all being honest.

607
00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:58,240
It was an honest group, polling.

608
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:03,240
Almost 100% of them are all liars.

609
00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:04,240
You know what I mean?

610
00:37:04,240 --> 00:37:09,600
The thing is there's so many things like, oh no, we'll talk about what sins are, but

611
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,280
do you want to talk about how you are sinning?

612
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:17,960
It's like, oh no, because of your judgment and everything.

613
00:37:17,960 --> 00:37:20,600
I feel like you and me though, we have that relationship.

614
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:25,000
We're like, hey man, I am struggling in this right now.

615
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:32,000
I've sat down on the stairs and bawled my eyes out and talked to you about things where

616
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:34,920
your wife is there and I'm sitting there crying.

617
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,520
We're like, oh, I feel like this.

618
00:37:38,520 --> 00:37:42,920
The enemy allowed the enemies to tear me down to the point where I was like, yep.

619
00:37:42,920 --> 00:37:45,480
You're like, why didn't you tell me?

620
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:49,960
I'm like, I don't know.

621
00:37:49,960 --> 00:37:51,800
The enemy wants to make you feel alone.

622
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:59,160
If someone is listening to this and they feel like you're alone, you feel like, oh no, I

623
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,440
don't want to share that with anybody.

624
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:02,440
They don't understand.

625
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:08,680
There's not a single person that has not gone through what you've gone through most likely.

626
00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,840
There's nothing new on this earth.

627
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:17,160
Whether it's depression, suicide, alcoholism, sex addiction, anything like that, there's

628
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,880
somebody who's probably gone through it.

629
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:24,280
There's somebody who's been through it, got through it, who would love to help you, talk

630
00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:29,160
to you, reach out to those who you love, who care about you.

631
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:33,280
Reach out to us if you want.

632
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,800
We may have not gone through it, but we can at least try to understand where you're coming

633
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:37,800
through.

634
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,000
Thrum, what's the other word?

635
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:43,000
Thrum.

636
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:50,480
But no, we can try to help you and be there for you.

637
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:51,480
We're not priests.

638
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:56,360
We're not asking you to confess to us, but if you need those people or need somebody

639
00:38:56,360 --> 00:39:00,640
to be there for you, we can be there for you.

640
00:39:00,640 --> 00:39:02,760
Is it?

641
00:39:02,760 --> 00:39:03,760
Yeah.

642
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,920
That's all I have to say on that.

643
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:11,760
I think it's because we, I think most people don't understand the power of confession.

644
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:15,760
Oh, a hundred percent.

645
00:39:15,760 --> 00:39:20,160
I think that's something that's going on a lot right now is that people don't understand

646
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:28,200
the power of confession and confession doesn't have to be to leaders, right?

647
00:39:28,200 --> 00:39:31,320
It's not exclusively to Bible leader shepherds.

648
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:32,320
Oh no, not at all.

649
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:36,240
I said, like, you know, you're just one of my best friends.

650
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,960
I'm like, talk to a friend.

651
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:43,120
It's like talking to a friend venting about your day at work, like, oh man, today at work,

652
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:44,800
don't believe this.

653
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,680
And this person on the freeway, they cut me off.

654
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,560
Like you just talk about like that stuff with your friends and you can, you know, just if

655
00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:57,520
you have that openness that really, cause as soon as you admit to and you're like, Hey

656
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:00,680
man, like I've been struggling with lying lately.

657
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,160
He takes away the power that that sin has.

658
00:40:03,160 --> 00:40:07,720
You're like, Oh, Oh, all of a sudden the depression is kind of fleeting.

659
00:40:07,720 --> 00:40:09,080
I don't feel bad about that.

660
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:10,080
I don't know.

661
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:14,200
I'm not a bad person.

662
00:40:14,200 --> 00:40:16,440
Everybody deals with this.

663
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:17,440
Right.

664
00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:22,760
And that's where you get like James five 16 where it says, therefore confessor sins to

665
00:40:22,760 --> 00:40:28,160
one another, your false steps, your offenses and pray for one another that you may be healed

666
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:29,680
and restored.

667
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:35,040
The heartfelt and persistent prayer of a righteous man and a believer can accomplish much when

668
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,200
put into action and made effective by God.

669
00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:43,240
It is a dynamic and can have tremendous power that right there in itself talks about confessing

670
00:40:43,240 --> 00:40:44,240
to others.

671
00:40:44,240 --> 00:40:48,240
And it doesn't say confess to preacher, pastor, leader, whatever.

672
00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:51,520
It doesn't say that it says to each other as a community.

673
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:57,960
And we can see this again when in first John one seven, it says, but if we really walk

674
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:02,800
in the light, that is live each and every day in conformity with the precepts of God

675
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:08,120
as he himself is in the light, we have true and broken fellowship with one another.

676
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:13,440
He with us and we with him and the blood of Jesus, his son cleanses us from all sin by

677
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:19,040
erasing the stain of sin, keeping us cleansed from sin and all its form and manifestations.

678
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:24,680
So it's that fellowship with God and it's talking with others about it and we're renewed

679
00:41:24,680 --> 00:41:29,240
from because of Christ and what he did for us.

680
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:30,600
Right.

681
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:35,480
I think it's in Galatians six to where it says carry one another's burdens and in this

682
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:37,480
way, you fulfill the requirement.

683
00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:38,480
Yeah.

684
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,800
And in this way, you fulfill the requirement of the law of Christ that is the law of Christian

685
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:43,800
love.

686
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560
Pretty sure that's what that one is.

687
00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:49,480
Are you looking at one up?

688
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:52,240
Trying to find my Bible tab.

689
00:41:52,240 --> 00:42:01,120
Bible, Bible, Bible.

690
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:05,600
While you're finding Bible tab, it's also first John one nine.

691
00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:10,600
If we freely admit that we have sinned and confess our sins, he is faithful and just

692
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,380
true to his own nature and promises and will forgive our sins, cleanses continually form

693
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:21,080
all unrighteousness, which I did read earlier because it's really important to know that

694
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:24,040
that confession is really big part of it.

695
00:42:24,040 --> 00:42:29,840
And that's something that I think a lot of Christians deal with because even especially

696
00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:34,680
not just especially in leadership, but a lot of leadership has that issue with Dylan was

697
00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:39,640
mentioning there were 60 percent of them deal with pornography addiction or something like

698
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:40,640
that.

699
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:44,960
And the issue there is because their leaders, they feel like they can't admit those things

700
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:50,240
because they'd be looked down upon or removed as leaders or invalidated.

701
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:54,320
And in reality, that's that right there is leading by example.

702
00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:58,800
And we need to lead by example as leaders lead to need to lead by example.

703
00:42:58,800 --> 00:42:59,800
Yeah.

704
00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,200
And under that example is made clear.

705
00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:03,200
It's true.

706
00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:07,600
Like is there is such a shame to when you are in a leadership, you're like it's like,

707
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,520
oh, I don't want to be seen as weak.

708
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,200
Ignorance is weak.

709
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:17,920
But like, oh, I think there is a stigmatism that comes with leadership that you feel like

710
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:23,800
you're put on a pedestal like, oh, I can't I people can't know that I struggle with this.

711
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:29,240
You can't know that I'm, you know, dealing with this.

712
00:43:29,240 --> 00:43:31,960
But people need to also know, hey, we are human.

713
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:39,400
I found the churches that I've been around or been with.

714
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:45,080
I probably enjoy the most the pastors that are like up front and they're like, hey, I've

715
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,080
dealt with this.

716
00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:50,680
I've been through this like I just I'm not going to say any names or anything.

717
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:55,400
But I was this one pastor years ago.

718
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,400
I had an affair.

719
00:43:57,400 --> 00:44:03,400
No, she's on his wife and they got through it.

720
00:44:03,400 --> 00:44:05,640
They got through all that and everything.

721
00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:06,640
It's horrible.

722
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,560
It's like it's he's open about that.

723
00:44:08,560 --> 00:44:13,120
And he talks about like how that, you know, the redemption, how they came out of that

724
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,080
and through that.

725
00:44:15,080 --> 00:44:21,960
And like, and I'm like, dang, I'm like, oh, I'm like, you know, like it goes back to sin.

726
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:27,240
Like us as humans is like, that is a really bad sin.

727
00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:33,960
Like, whoa, like, how could you like that's how dare you like and God's eyes is the same

728
00:44:33,960 --> 00:44:40,840
as, you know, you know, things that I've done where I've lied or I've been dishonest or

729
00:44:40,840 --> 00:44:48,040
I, you know, or cheated on a English test in eighth grade.

730
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:53,760
No, I'm like, that's just it's the same thing.

731
00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:58,520
And it's like, and I've had pastors who talk about, you know, the depression after their

732
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,360
wife has passed stuff like that.

733
00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:03,080
And it's like, you know, it's real.

734
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:09,760
And being open with that in the congregation, too, I think opens up like, you know, more

735
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:12,440
room for others to share.

736
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:19,920
And for them, I just I think it builds up tearing yourself down, builds yourself up

737
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:24,840
and build other people up in the community and their walk with Christ.

738
00:45:24,840 --> 00:45:30,020
I think we definitely need to do a podcast episode that's about leadership in general,

739
00:45:30,020 --> 00:45:34,680
because there's a lot about leadership that's like exactly what you're saying.

740
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:39,420
If the leader is pretending to be perfect and hides his sin, we're not.

741
00:45:39,420 --> 00:45:43,400
The congregation is going to do that, too.

742
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:49,480
We are just messed up people like the rest of you who have been called to do this.

743
00:45:49,480 --> 00:45:50,480
That's it.

744
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:56,920
It's like, you know, the verse that talks about casting the first song.

745
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:01,480
It's like, you know, we were no better.

746
00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:06,080
Like, we are just called to teach and to lead by example.

747
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:10,520
There is a higher, right, higher level of judgment put on us.

748
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,680
But there's nowhere that we are.

749
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:16,600
You know, we're not holy or we're not more.

750
00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:20,440
You know, we don't deserve to be praised or anything because we are just a vessel for

751
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:22,320
the Lord.

752
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:27,920
And this by leading by example, which is why there's such a high pressure on that position

753
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,640
is because the lead by example.

754
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:37,920
But like, again, we'll get to leadership stuff on another podcast.

755
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:42,000
Like you mentioned earlier, finding someone to confess to like you and me, we talk to

756
00:46:42,000 --> 00:46:45,720
each other and we will be open with each other.

757
00:46:45,720 --> 00:46:52,000
And I think a good verse to end off with is Luke 17, three to four.

758
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,800
Pay attention and always be on guard looking out for one another.

759
00:46:55,800 --> 00:47:01,240
If your brother sins and disregards God's precepts, solemnly warn him and if he repents

760
00:47:01,240 --> 00:47:03,280
and changes, forgive him.

761
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:07,720
Even if he sends against you seven times a day and returns to you seven times and says,

762
00:47:07,720 --> 00:47:09,720
I repent, you must forgive him.

763
00:47:09,720 --> 00:47:14,800
That is give up resentment and consider this offense recalled and annulled.

764
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:17,080
And this is brothers and sisters in Christ.

765
00:47:17,080 --> 00:47:20,260
And for you to me, we can talk to each other.

766
00:47:20,260 --> 00:47:27,600
If I have another friend that I like a newer friend, for example, who says, oh, I'm I follow

767
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:28,600
Christ.

768
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:29,600
I love God.

769
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:32,560
I love the Bible and I see them doing something that's that's not of God.

770
00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:37,200
I'll pull them aside and be like, hey, dude, like this isn't of God.

771
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,200
Like what are you doing?

772
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,840
Or that's not really of God.

773
00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,200
But in the sense of like, I'm I'm trying to help you.

774
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,520
I'm looking out for you.

775
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:45,520
That's all.

776
00:47:45,520 --> 00:47:52,320
And that's where a lot of people use that to try to attack or to go after people who

777
00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:53,320
aren't Christian.

778
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,960
And that's not what we're supposed to do.

779
00:47:54,960 --> 00:47:59,160
We're supposed to love people, show them who God is.

780
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:05,120
And this just comes with it once, you know, once you're all accepted and into accepted

781
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:06,400
Christ as your Lord and savior.

782
00:48:06,400 --> 00:48:10,280
And part of that, you work together for the greater good and the greater good of what

783
00:48:10,280 --> 00:48:17,480
God's desire is upon us, upon our life and upon others.

784
00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:18,480
And that's just important.

785
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:22,280
I just wanted to say that because again, it comes down to like, I repent.

786
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:24,400
I turn away from that and we'll do it again.

787
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:25,400
Whatever.

788
00:48:25,400 --> 00:48:26,760
I think I want to get away from that.

789
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:27,760
I want to get away from that.

790
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,720
I want to get away from that.

791
00:48:29,720 --> 00:48:31,680
And that's just kind of that's kind of it.

792
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:36,080
You know, make sure that you talk to each other, make sure that if you're dealing with

793
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,080
something, you're not alone.

794
00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:43,680
There are people, including us, like you can tweet at us and DMS on our Twitter page or

795
00:48:43,680 --> 00:48:47,480
go into our discord and there's places for people to talk.

796
00:48:47,480 --> 00:48:54,800
And it's just important to know that we are here because God is there for us.

797
00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:56,960
So we are there for others.

798
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:58,680
And that's important.

799
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:02,720
As Christians, we are supposed to be there and you're not alone.

800
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:07,920
And like Dylan, like you said, that sin will always push to say you're alone and we're

801
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,680
not.

802
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:15,040
And sin happens and we need to make sure that we're not living in sin, but our focus is

803
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:27,200
on him and striving to be closer to him by reading, confessing and by worshiping him.

804
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:28,200
Worshiping.

805
00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:29,200
Yeah, just all worship.

806
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:30,200
Yeah.

807
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:35,720
And if you're doing to reach out to, you know, just like you said, this quarter, the Gospel

808
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:43,240
Truth Project, DM us on our Twitter, the podcast, it's at the podcast, GTP.

809
00:49:43,240 --> 00:49:47,400
Yeah, we'd love to hear from you guys.

810
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:49,280
We're here.

811
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,280
We're here.

812
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,040
We are always on our phones.

813
00:49:52,040 --> 00:49:53,920
So you hit us up.

814
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:54,920
A little too much.

815
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:58,200
I know I get told often that it's like, why are you on your phone?

816
00:49:58,200 --> 00:49:59,760
I'm like, just checking.

817
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:00,760
I'm like, checking.

818
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:01,760
Checking what?

819
00:50:01,760 --> 00:50:02,760
It's like, I don't know.

820
00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:03,760
It's like I had to.

821
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,760
It's been five seconds.

822
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:07,760
Yep.

823
00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:11,840
So, yeah, we're going to end the podcast here.

824
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,120
Tune in next Wednesday as well for our next episode.

825
00:50:15,120 --> 00:50:19,240
And again, we do already have a topic for next week and we're excited to talk about

826
00:50:19,240 --> 00:50:20,240
it.

827
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:21,880
And we will let people know on the Twitter.

828
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,760
If you follow us there, we'll let you know early what the topic is going to be about.

829
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:28,040
So you can decide to tune in or not.

830
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:29,040
Please do.

831
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,320
Jason, you want to pray us out though?

832
00:50:32,320 --> 00:50:33,320
Sure.

833
00:50:33,320 --> 00:50:35,360
Yeah, I'll pray us out.

834
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:40,160
God, I thank you for the time that we get to spend here together as we discuss your

835
00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,960
word and discuss who you are.

836
00:50:41,960 --> 00:50:47,640
I pray that the truth of your word is revealed to those who are listening, that you bring

837
00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:51,280
that truth to them and use us for this.

838
00:50:51,280 --> 00:50:56,500
And I just pray for those who are struggling with sin, who are feeling alone or feeling

839
00:50:56,500 --> 00:51:00,160
depressed or feeling teared down, beaten down and to the bottom.

840
00:51:00,160 --> 00:51:05,120
I just pray that you give them that person that they can talk to, that you open them

841
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:06,120
up.

842
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:12,560
That this message helps them just receive your Holy Spirit, God, to just feel that peace,

843
00:51:12,560 --> 00:51:17,720
feel that joy, feel that love from you and be able to just break the chains of sin itself

844
00:51:17,720 --> 00:51:23,440
through you, God, through the power of the confession that you have anointed through

845
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:24,440
the word of God.

846
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:30,140
And I just pray that all of us here who are listening, as well as me and Dylan, that we

847
00:51:30,140 --> 00:51:36,560
just continue to seek you, continue to look for truth and continue to speak truth to others

848
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:40,760
around us and be that influence that you called us to be.

849
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:41,760
Jesus name.

850
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:42,760
Amen.

851
00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:43,760
Amen.

852
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:50,720
Everybody, I hope you have a good rest of your day and week and weekend and see you

853
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:51,720
next Wednesday.

854
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,480
Thanks for listening, thanks for joining us.

855
00:51:54,480 --> 00:52:03,760
See you guys on the flippity flap.

856
00:52:03,760 --> 00:52:25,040
Bye.

