Welcome to the gospel truth project. I'm actually here with Dylan
Hi, and then I'm Jason. We are starting this podcast actually to
Help bring light to subjects and help discuss and talk maybe we'll even have people on here who may
Be like pastors or they may be just normal people that have opinions or people who aren't Christian who are Christian who believe differently
the idea is that we can sit down talk and discuss and
civilly and
Just kind of get better ideas and hopefully grow together. That's kind of the idea here, right?
Yeah, yeah, that's totally
The idea that we're going with here. Just want to open up some dialect and talk about well the gospel
Exactly, I feel like nowadays the gospel is kind of construed it a little bit like just a little tainted because I
Know I made up the word construed it, but you know
You know
Yeah, I'll say tainted. I'll say they're always adding stuff anyways to the right. I would use the word
Because I would say the gospel is like kind of tainted nowadays because we have like this very self-centered
Gospel kind of going around where it's all about me me me I I
I I I rather than the true purpose is all focus on him. So
Yep, I think this this whole podcast is literally just going to be talking about
that
Um, even our first episode which isn't today
We're we're going to record the first episode later, but that one's going to be called prosperity gospel
Is it real and we'll have questions there that we answer talk about bring up biblical aspects what people are saying about it
What the bible actually says about it?
Obviously since it's prosperity gospel that means people are saying that they're christian and using bible for that belief
and we'll go into a little bit more depth of what they're talking about and
um
Is it in context because I think that's the most important thing that we're missing nowadays is whether things are in context for
Um, the the time and what was being said and who was it being said to because
You got two very different
aspects of the bible where it's talking to
um
God's talking to his people chosen people to israelites and then talking to the adopted kingdom
Which is the gentiles or anybody outside of that is adopted into the kingdom of god through jesus christ
so
There's a couple differences that we
Think that people overlook because it doesn't fit their narrative. I so to speak 100 percent. I yeah
You see there's a lot of different
Versions out there are well different churches
separation because of just
It could be simple things. It could be complex things and uh
um, just yeah, I see that a lot um, especially in my line of work, uh a ministry
It's just uh, I've seen you know people leave churches because you know, well, I don't like to worship
Or I don't agree with certain things and you know, I think there's definitely uh
somewhat of a division uh with church and
Or just believers in a sense just where it's definitely that you were saying that whole me me me
All about me thing. Um, right, so I'll be I'm looking forward to actually dive into this and uh
Uh
Yeah talking more about this. Yeah, I think it could think it'd be cool and good. I was trying to say both at the same time. Um
Speak one other word. That's all you got to do exactly
So, uh, introduce yourself a little bit. What's your background? Where are you someone?
Yeah, so yeah, if you guys didn't hear earlier, uh, my name is dylan
Uh, I've been involved with youth ministry. Um,
um, pastor in uh, gosh, I believe I started when I was
21
And well gosh, that's about seven years now seven years of doing youth ministry and pastor in and uh, so I mean I've seen that
I've jumped around a few churches. I started uh
off
uh as a youth leader and
With a local Nazarene church where I grew up in
And then I moved to a Samoan Baptist church and I'm now with uh the vineyard
Uh
In my hometown
So I've kind of hopped around there grew up in the church and believing
I ended up actually finding God after my house burned down when I was 13. So
sometimes God can use the tragedy and uh, I mean I I think him for that
I mean kind of a weird thing to think him for but I mean he works in you know, Mr.
East ways which actually ended up leaving me to uh
Joining uh Jason here. Um, yeah at a youth group when we were just
Well, I think I was 15 or 17 something like that. Yeah, gosh, we were we were young
And uh, so that's in there and just kind of growing
And uh and you know growing in our faith at the same time with one another and accountability. So
Uh, yeah, so that's kind of my background there
you know
so
Yeah, vineyard church is actually pretty cool because um
Vineyard church their whole uh ideology and theology that they follow is based uh was was a break off of
four-square church
when they first started
um four-square church, uh, I can't remember the guy's name that started vineyard off the top of my head
I'll have to bring that back in when we talk about
dominations and
whatever
the different one different variable
churches and
Ideologies and stuff, but um, I do remember that vineyard broke off from from the four-square church actually so did Calvary
That was awesome. There was two. There was two. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that was cool
I I've been blessed to find myself with uh with the vineyard actually currently right now as we're speaking. Um, I'm actually in Mexico
Uh on our mission trip. So
We come out here uh to mauset lawn and we serve the the community here. We have a sister church down here
and it's just uh about giving back to the community
um
They're really, you know, you get a really uh experience
uh
What it's like to actually have nothing when you see some of these people
Right people that are living just living in real
Poverty that we don't really see in the states. Um, right true and it gives you a
You know, you see some people that have some wicked faith down here
Just like they are on fire
Because they that's what they have they have god
That's pretty much it
right
There's something about like having nothing that really helps you
To put everything on god in that sense and you I'm sure you're see you see that down there
Oh, yeah
I mean you also see people getting some very dark things
right, I think
There's uh multiple multiple people that we've prayed out demons and
And just and that's pretty gnarly. Um pretty fun too
Right, I mean that god god gives you the power over them and just knowing that you're you know
Like our god is not that much greater
And then also feeding the feeding the families. They don't have enough, you know, they don't have not enough to have anything really
Getting that you know the serve it gives you a drill chance to serve and get the
Get the girl in your face, which is like amazing
and then you know
It's mauset long which is a nice coast town and it's got some really nice scenery view
so
It's it's it's not bad in the eyes
On that part. Um, I don't get it
It uh, yeah, well, I think it's you down here sometime. That'd be actually great to come maybe next year
Right, that'd be pretty cool. Yeah, it's a blessing
And then helping helping out with all the kids that's where a lot of my heart is is helping out with the children
because besides the just uh
youth ministry and
Doing that. I I also work with children as my full-time job. I'm a gymnastics instructor as well. So
That's god's calling on my heart. Um, so that is definitely coming here doing this is huge
Yeah, for sure. Um, and then I guess to introduce myself a little bit more. Um
So like I said before I'm jason, uh, I've been a pastor's kid all my life
and
um, I've been in many different churches. Um
Pentecostal charismatic
Baptist once twice four square Calvary
um
I mean, I've been in a lot of different churches and kind of cool thing when I was younger. Um,
I had like this calling it was really interesting because I was going to all the different churches in the area and help
coordinate worship nights that we would all get together and worship together as one body of christ
and we did that for
Quite a few months and then the elders of the church got mad because
This church had a different doctrine than they did or this one had a different doctrine than they did
And they would break it up and then the youth would get together and do it again
and we'd all meet up and um
That was kind of like what I was just I just felt called to do and I did it and I continued to do it
I'm doing that with cornerstone a little bit too, right? Yeah cornerstone joined us on one of them
Um, yeah, because I remember I joined I think I was there for that
Yeah, and uh, we had like everyday church join in we had vinyard join in we had Calvary join in
Um, there was all these different churches wine press joined in there was all these different churches that joined into those nights
And it it was really really cool because we didn't care about the religious differences of our doctrine
Even though we all worship Christ follow Christ and love God and fall and read in bible
The point of it was getting together as one body of christ and actually worshiping together
And it was something powerful in that because it wasn't about well, you don't believe this specific thing in the bible
So I don't want to associate with you. It was more like
Hey man, like your body of christ. Let's worship together as a community. So that was really powerful
Um, exactly. It was like, hey, do you love Jesus? Oh, no, wait me too. That's worshiping. Yeah, yeah
I got kicked out of three churches
Oh god imagine be like your hair back then right no no no punk rocker
I yeah, I was like, uh, it was funny too. It's like, yeah, the pastor's kids got kicked out of three churches
My and my dad knew it too and the pastors knew it too because if I showed up they're like, hey, uh,
How'd it go with this church over here? I'm not gonna name drop, but I'll be like, well, they they don't want me around anymore
Yeah, we don't know if you're doing kid. Come on. Yeah, I actually had in the day when I ain't pk
Right. I walked into a church and I was talking to one of the pastors on the side
It's not like I go in and like bust the doors open during
You're like, hey, can I have it a bit for me? No side by side bar side bar real quick. Yeah
I'll sit during the service and I'll worship with them. I'll like talk to the other people my age and
Then I'll talk to the pastor and be like, hey, this is something I'm working on and you know
if you don't think God's calling some sort of thing to this then by all means let it go and
Um, when I told him that I remember this pastor one of the churches really looked at me was like
You want to do what I'm like, well, we just get together
Your worship team can lead worship because you're at their church for that night
And then if we want to do it at your church, someone else's worship team does it so it's like
Kind of like uh, everybody gets a part of it
And he was like, well that church doesn't believe in this specifically and that's not okay
I'm like, well, you say it's not okay
But biblically it's very arguable because there's a lot of
Doctrine on both sides to say that you're in the right here and there
And he's like, I don't care. I don't want to hear about it again. Don't don't do that
So I went to the youth yeah that point. Yeah, I went to the youth pastor and the youth pastor's like, I'm all for it
Well, that's what we are
He's like, that's awesome
So youth pastor did it. He the college group and the high school group came over to the church
Their worship team from the college group came over
Did the worship and then they went back and then I went back to the talk to the
Youth pastor and the head pastor saw me and said, hey, we don't want you here anymore
Like you can't you went below you went over you went below my not over my head
I can't remember what he said, but he's like you went around me. I don't like that
Yeah, and I just told him like I just told him the idea and he loved it. That's on your youth pastor plus it's it was
Fantastic. Yeah, you are supposed to you know
I'm like that's not on your post run things through
You know, I'll be like, hey, we want to do this
Right, I went to the head pastor. He was just not a good pastor
And then that church died so
I just stuff like that happens. There's no fruit that just dies. That's that's as easy as it gets like
um
there's a lot of that but
Yeah, those are those are
Days, but yeah, that was just my calling at the time and I created this thing called the gospel truth project
Which is this but before it was a podcast it was actually
um a facebook page where I was the only one posting five times a day versus and
And sermons and books to read and whatever it was the only one reading
no
and then it started to grow and um, it's they actually
Grew pretty well to where I think
What what do we do you remember what what we're at right now for our group?
Like how many people were on it? Let me check like goodness. I I cannot tell you
I know it's it's a lot more than like the three we started off with I'll say that much
Yeah, it's it's slowly growing. So it's like and the cool thing is is that now there's people on there posting daily just
Like messages versus encouragement if people have prayer requests, we have it
and then um
Um, I started to get more on the developer side
I created a discord page which it's gospel truth project as well and um
Uh, the discord page has uh roles so you can assign elders prayer warriors
like whatever like these are the counselors etc and um
And it's kind of going to be like a a mobile church kind of thing where you can go here
You can have prayer requests if you have questions about the bible. They're there you can share
There's an area to share like photos with verses or photos in general that are bible related or stuff like that
There's a bible study chat. So if people really want to get into the word and study together
They can there's a bible study audio where everybody can talk in and join together
There's a main chat where people can ask questions just chit chat talk or they can actually win
You do worship page on the main chat and yeah
The whole you know playlist on accident
Yeah, right
There's a there's a worship voice chat
So you can join that and then you can click play for worship and it will start playing worship and
There's a generic voice chat. There's a bible study chat and the idea of this was that church can church shouldn't be
Nowadays we have a thing where church shouldn't just shouldn't just be a building
But should be something that we take with us. We are the church kind of thing
But this makes it mobile where everybody can have it in their pocket to talk to people
Communicate with people have a community and it could be worldwide because it's digital and yeah
Yeah, this day and age we're getting very very digital with everything and
um
The idea of
Going to church in the building is still a thing. That's okay. I'm not saying that's not
This is just giving an opportunity to have
That community 24 7 rather than just once a week and actually help which is needed
Right. Yeah
Nowadays
Yeah, go for it
I can't I was just I was just thinking
I'll out loud a little bit, but I can't think of the one
There's a worship song that's I hear all the time on uh with Kayla
There's something like we're the church on sunday, but I would the church on monday too
it's
I can't think of it, but you know
But you know, it's so true. I feel like you know, I was always told as a kid it's like
If you're like you're on fire on sunday, but are you the same way you are monday tuesday?
And you know does it does it stay it's a constant thing and I feel like I've been the ability to constantly
Have that community necessarily
It's just a way to kind of stay in that mindset to stay
Connected
Right because it takes community where more than you know more than one or two are gathered
Right. He's there and to have that presence. I think it's helpful
I think it's like also, you know like
The one that I use the part of the discord is I am always posting our our live stream and I think that's like, you know
That's a good for those like like, you know, like you you just recently moved so you don't have a church yet
We're able to still follow the church that maybe you were at or
You know even look at different churches and see maybe like maybe in your local area or maybe, you know
Maybe there's some really awesome church, you know, you know in the south or
Or you know, maybe even the mexico, you know what I mean?
We got that connected or you know, I could watch, you know, la vina, which is this our sister church down here and actually watch their services
And I mean I wouldn't understand it all the time because
You know my Spanish is uh, it's moimalo. So
Not a very, you know
Yeah, that's the whole idea like we have the church live links specifically in the main hub of gospel truth project discord page
And you can share your live links for your church service and then
Um, if you want events just at an admin and say hey, we got a church event
They'll put it on the list and
We can have church events from anywhere and everywhere
So basically you go in there and you can search through the events to see there's anything nearby you and you can join in
Like all this is built in with that kind of purpose of being
community driven to
bring us all closer together and
A lot of the stuff that we deal with nowadays is that there's a lot of people out there that have questions and don't know where to go for answers
Doesn't mean we have all the answers
Dear lord. No
I mean
That's so true. There's I get so many questions all the time with like the youth group
I've got kids that have so many questions like right and
And like, well, how do you know that? I'm like, well, I'm like
Okay, well, I mean to be fair, you know, we've got
Kids that are you know, junior high high school that are you know new and they're a lot and there's a you know, we forget
I think often there's adults that are also new in their walk
Yeah, there is you know, and I have a few of them
Yeah, and like there's questions that are asked and I think to have been
To have that that that resources huge, I mean
There's so there's had this many things that can be confusing. I mean a lot of us
I say a veteran are older, you know Christians in our walk
I think a lot of us tend to speak in Christianese too where it's like, oh, well, he's just led by the spirit or something like that
It's like what does he mean? Like what does that mean?
like in
The terminology and the ways that we can break it down to teach one another and just you know
And there's things too that you know, like us talking, you know all the time you're like, oh, what about this?
I'm like, oh, dude, I didn't even think about that
Just having a community that gets for anybody no matter where you are in your walk or even if you just want to know about it
If even if you're not a you know believer or Christian
You know, right? Yeah
I think um, I think it was like Hebrews 10 24 to 25
I think that's what it was
Uh where it's like, you know, I'm pretty I'm pretty dang sure I'm correct
But Hebrews 10 24 to 25 is and let us consider how to stir up one another to love and good works
Not neglecting to meet together
um as is the habit of some but encouraging one another and all the more days you'll see drawing near and um
That that kind of sets the premise of you you get together not to just
meet
but like
Getting the habit of encouraging like one another because we have a tendency to
tear each other down because it's fun and uh, that's you know within reason
But there's got to be a point to where we're encouraging each other to be better than what we were before
And helping each other grow because that's a lot more healthy relationship than just beat down every day
Yeah, well, it's like, you know, you probably know the verses um
With iron sharpening iron
Um, yeah, that one is Proverbs 27 17
Oh, see what a pk. I love it
I wish you know, I I try to remember scripture. That's not my forte
Um, but you know, that's why God is giving me you as my friend
I
It's great. I I
The whole verse is iron sharpens iron and one man sharpens to face
his neighbor
It's a positive thing. It's just like hey, we the neighbor idea is like the person next to you the person close to you
Um, and you help them. That's the idea like you help them grow
So that's yeah coming back to the same point that I was talking about too. It's exactly it
I know it's almost like I knew what I was talking about for a second
Right, right. Yeah, um, there's even like, um
Try to remember because yeah, there's a lot of bible verses that we obviously can keep going into
um, but we I did have like
15 16 different podcasts lined up and some of them are really cool like just kind of fun stuff like
Talking about the perfect christian life. What it looks like and and not me
What it's not uh
Yeah, I'm like don't look to your leaders for for whatever that is. Uh, right or the perfect christian. Yeah, don't don't look at your leaders
We are humans. We have faults
um
So that's the whole podcast for that right there. I got it solved
we are
Yeah, so like we like that's one of the top six. I got another topic called like the americanized gospel
I got another one said the purpose of life bible on you. What's it say about you?
Um pessimistic versus optimistic perspective. What does the bible talk about that?
What is church does science go against god?
What are mainstream christians not loving?
Um, you know, what is the holy spirit is the bible accurate?
um
This is that good stuff right here. Yeah, wool. I'm definitely get I'm definitely gonna be tuned in. I mean gosh
I'm already hooked. There's some really more touchy sensitive subjects and I think that
There's going to be a lot of people that aren't happy with the answers and some that are more happy
and like one of them uh
Is it doesn't matter yet?
If it's my opinion, it doesn't matter too much, but I want to delve into what the bible says about
We just want to dive into what bible says
Right. Yeah. Yeah, it's like delve with the bible says and um
because we got we got to keep going back to the bible itself. That's the whole point because um
Uh, what's it the bible
On the bible like if you look at it the bible does talk about itself
Yeah, yeah, I know it it references itself. I mean it literally
Yeah, it's like was it so like for example like second timothy 316
Uh, that's one of them. I love that verse because it's another 316 kind of thing
But it says all scripture is breathed out by god profitable for teaching reproof for correction and for training and righteousness
um
romans
15 for if I remember correctly
For whatever was written in former days was written for our instruction that though endurance and through the encouragement of the scriptures
We might have hope
um, I know romans 10
uh 17
Though faith comes from hearing hearing through the word of christ. I know
um
Even isaia 55 11 talks about the authority of the bible so shall my word that
Uh goes out for my mouth. I should not return to me empty that kind of stuff
There's a lot of situations where it talks about the bible being very important for teaching reproof and correction and growing and then um
but that's where
That's where a lot of people
try to like go towards like
You know, it's all about the works
Which is not really
Well, biblical
Yes, you do good. You do what's right. Take care of you know, take care of the poor take care of
of um
The widows, uh, you know, you take care of people because people matter, right? Yeah, but you don't do it
Just to do it. It's also where your heart is at. Right. Yeah, right. Exactly. Exactly. Yeah. I think we get lost up into like this is
These are these three easy steps right here, but it's like, okay, but
Why are we doing those steps? Why are we actually doing it? And I think you know something that we'll get into
Yeah, we got I got a lot of I got a lot of stuff. I got a lot of stuff to
Go over and I hope uh you and whoever else I have
Um, you know on the podcast at the time will help out
Um kind of give different perspectives and talk about it. Um, yep. Okay. I had to put it in the chat real quick for it
But fusions two eight through ten. I thought this was it
Um
For I had a double check. I was like, I'm pretty sure this is it but but yeah four by grace
You have been saved through faith and this is not by your own doing
It is the gift of god not a result of works. Amen
So that no one may boast right and we have this thing where a lot of us do that is the case
Right and it's like oh lord, right because this is where we are is what?
On my own will I I fall short
For every single day. Yeah, and that's we're gonna we're gonna touch on that topic. I think it's like, uh, what week was that?
I have it up this week. Let's see. We're one two three four five. No, no six seven eight
It's eight, but I'm gonna move it up to number two
Let's do that. Wow. We'll move that
It's gonna be called america
Yeah, it's going to be called the americanized gospel because that's kind of what's going on in our culture right now
It's like we need to be self-righteous and they do thing people do things to feel self-righteous
Like it's their god-given right which honestly, it's not it's no one's
Like our god-given rights to love each other and that's not really loving
So it's very true
Yeah, I got much easier to
To hate than it is to love
Oh very true. It's so much easier to be angry and just just hate on people and deter
deteriorate someone's
personality or person
Just because it's not what you like on your opinion
um, and you know, I see this especially uh with uh
the youth
Oh, yes, see like the kid, you know, like I mean
It's different when it's in a you know, if you're joking loving manner, but you know, you see some of these kids
There's a difference. Uh, it's just they
Defeated, you know her
Especially with the past couple years you've had with all COVID and everything just self-esteem and just uh mental health
That goes with that has definitely been affected
Right. It's like uh first Thessalonians 5 11
So therefore encourage one another build one another up just as you are doing right?
I mean he's talking to the church with Thessalonians because they were very big on encouraging
Others and he was saying keep that up and he specifically mentioned that because that was a church that was a Gentile church
And he's like you guys are doing this great keep that up
Uh fusions 429 I think says let no corrupting talk come out of your mouth
But only such is good for building up as fit for the occasion that it may give grace to those who hear right so
It's a good one. Yeah, is that kind of stuff where like there's a difference between joking around and messing around with me
Do you kind of thing and just kind of oh, yeah
You know shooting brotherly love
Right. Yeah, this is us messing around goofing around
But then there's a difference between actually tear like tearing down someone as a person and like just
Dehumiliate like dehumanizing or whatever that person it goes back to the content of the heart
right
Like I you know, I'll just give it a quick example
What are the my new co-workers?
Um, I'm not gonna say names, but they're uh, yeah, they're a pastor's kid
And so, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm like, no, it's not you
And you know, I'm calling them pk
And I'm like for me that's like a like, you know, I said, I'm like, oh, yeah, you're a pk pk
Like, you know, like that's just a loving term like, you know, like that's what
You know, I've called you that for years and other friends too. And it's like, you know, I didn't mean anything rude by it
But I had a couple co-workers like oh, she doesn't they don't like that
And got really upset with me. I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, like I'm like, I wasn't like
That's like a term that's used a bunch like like that's not like I'm not trying to like make a joke or like be like
I mean, I am messing with there like just as like a fun way. I'm like that's like lighthearted. Yeah
I was like a lighthearted. I'm like, we all mess with each other there too. I'm like
He really upset. I was like if she really bugs her, I'm like, it's really upset her like
You know, my my intentions in my heart was just you know
To crack a joke and this to have fun. But if that's really get upset, I'm like, let me know like right
Because you also like yeah, and I was like, okay
yeah, because
I'm a
Most like co-workers are females. So I'm they getting up on you. It's kind of scary
It's there's there's a place for like messing around and stuff like that for sure and it's like
um
And honestly if you're doing that just like to be like hey friend like
Because they're a pastor's kid and you just call them pk
And you're not mean trying to be demeaning or like try to be mean to them
But there's a point to where if it does bug them then exactly gotta be like hey, I'm sorry
I did not know that I'm not going away to be like hey
pk
Like I'm like I'm not gonna be you know making you know
If it upsets something I'm not gonna go and try and be a douche, you know a douche canoe
Right. Yeah, yeah, it's not like going to be on purpose from that point on
You're not you're not supposed to just continue to be like oh they hate it. Well, I'm gonna do it more like
Like true dang bad. I like saying like no, that's not my heart
Yeah, I think uh, I don't think you're definitely not listening to this, but if they were
Sorry, like I know
Yeah, yeah
I think it's like james talks about like speaking a lot. I don't know like
You've read you've read james recently or has it been a little bit?
I feel like
I'll be going through math you so no, I think it's a little aside with your james
Yeah, cuz like okay, so like james it starts off james one right james 126
um
If anyone thinks he is religious and does not bridle his tongue, but deceives his heart that person religious is worthless
Like
There's really you've said that one a couple times to me. Yeah, there's a
Yeah, because it's really important that you can't just like let let your words go out and then
You make these like let's say jokes and instances where are really really just
Maybe really insulting to somebody else or can't be very hurtful
You just kind of like watch yourself because you want to show love not so
Yeah, like a hardcore bipolar kind of love where it's like
Man you something I didn't mean it. Huh. I didn't mean it like it
You know that battle of bipolarism
Yeah, I think of like one of my my my good friends
And I you know I I call him like hey, what's up? You bum like and we just call each other a bum
I guess a joke and we laugh about it and like a different you know a different sense
And because you guys built that relationship. Yeah, and I get it, you know, but
Yeah, and also what is it that goes with?
So is it Psalms
It's better to be thought of full than to speak and erase all doubt
Better to I actually don't know that one
Oh, what did I just stump you that should be Proverbs?
Oh
Proverbs no, that's gotta be Proverbs one second
I'm gonna find it. I think here. Let me type this in it's gonna hear keyboard
for the yeah, you know
I love that that Bible bot man is my best friend
Is that the one that you're looking for? I mean it's in the app amp. I put it in the chat
Is that the right one? Um
Let me go to the chat real quick
Uh, main chat pretty sure that's the verse that you're talking. That's the one that I would think in the main chat
No, no, it's in the podcast notes
Yo, we've been we've been hacked man by this one person in May
They're posting inappropriate crap all over this place
Oh, I got it
Yeah, that's not cool
No, uh, what where is it? No fuck
It's the better if you're me. I'm like, what I'm like, what the heck did I just get like
um proverbs
Uh, even a full one he keeps on is considered wise. Yeah, this is a proverbs. That's it. Okay. Yeah, okay
That's like your amplified version. Yeah, I thought I was like proverbs 17 something
Let's see what this says in normal
Normal talk even a fool who keeps down is considered wise when he closes lips. He's deemed intelligent
Yeah, that was the kind of situation that jesus did in front of like the when he went to go get judged
They're like, do you have anything to say and he just
Stay quiet, but he knew it was going to happen though. That was the whole thing
Oh, I I think what if we add another topic? Yeah, uh called
Because this one's a fun topic amongst amongst christians uh predestination
Oh
Because you know, like that's a that's a huge that is a huge topic amongst like different churches
There's there's churches that literally well almost literally go to war with other churches because they do or don't believe in predestination
Or pre-determinism or whatever
Yeah, yeah, that's true
It's like that's insane. Yeah, definitely kind of a
Touchy subject for sure. It's a very touchy subject. I'd love to get on that one
Maybe have like three people told or just going back and forth talking about it. Yeah
Maybe we could get that magi and see what he has to say
right
Uh
Yeah, I think that's a good one. I threw that in the list of it. I won't move it to the last place. So we need to move it up
It'll be a good one though, but
I'll move it down like look I'm making like I'm looking through all everything to make sure there's nothing else
I I already did we're good
but dingus
What is the point see the funny thing is is like
Up until this point. There's been nothing bad in our discord period ever like
No, the people that we start, you know, this start talking
According to doing stuff right according to our mod that person jumped in here
lily within
A couple minutes and just started posting
Really wrong she stuff on our page like it's insane like that kind of stuff will happen
Yeah, and my that's where we hit the beat on it
We've got to figure out a bot that will fix that hopefully
Catch that top of crap. I do I do have a bot for that kind of stuff. Oh, you do
I just I'm just editing it
Oh, that's why I know I'm like, okay, dude like like as a Christian like as a not as a Christian man
But as a man he's trying to keep himself pure and like
you know
Keep my eyes set on the prize like like that's just not appreciated at all. Like that's not full
Yeah, it happens though. I know and it's it's it's bad though. So we you know, it is well, it's just I think it's
Like there's a point to it where it's just like
That's just kind of how the world is right now, which is insane to me
Like that stuff is like that kind of it is crowd is everywhere
Where they just want to go in mess things up troll things or throw trash at different stuff
And when I see that stuff, it doesn't make me like mad or like furious. It makes me kind of like sad because
that person thinks like
I don't know it just it just like I want to reach out to him. But like hey, are you doing okay? Like
Like that's honestly, I mean like
Honestly, that's what I'm the first thing we should we should be praying for praying for that person
For sure because like where where where are you? You know what I mean? Like right now that that's something that you like, you know
Like are you having that much stuff going on in your life where like this is all that you can do right now?
Yeah, like and that shows like kind of you know where the heart's at
It's you know, right? It's just sad indeed
Yeah, we should probably pray for the pray for them right now
On the podcast, I mean, yeah, we could yeah, I mean what as well go for it. Okay. Yeah
Dear heavenly father, I just pray that um
What do you know who the person is that post that stuff went on there did that I just pray that you would uh
Soften their heart lord to hear what you want them to hear that
they would uh
That there'd be seeds planted there be
So just be watering lord wherever he needs to be that person he or she I don't know this needs to hear what they need to hear
Or that your will just that you just have somebody to work into their heart lord
Um
That you would have them just
I don't know get to know you more
but just you know
Soften their heart
Yeah, amen amen
That like that reminds me like uh
um
Was it uh second Corinthians 12 9
Sure, yeah, it's like uh my grace is sufficient for you for my powers made perfect and weakness
Therefore I'll boast one more gladly of my weakness so that the power of Christ may rest upon me
I
Yeah
I don't know if you I mean yeah, I
Sure, you're right
Yeah, look let me copy this and put it in the chat. Let's see. Yeah
We have a bible bot that like you just type the verse in and like the the passage or you can search
I'll bring it up
Yeah, that's it. Okay, so I was right. That was the right one
Yeah, of course, you're always
I mean and reading and I agree that I'm glad I'm glad you were right
That's always kind of in a game that we play where I'm trying just to catch you and see if I
Which is good prick. I can't
accountability but like
I mean like me only thing I think I know is
But we basically as from is 116 for I'm gonna send the gospel in price
First the Jews taken to the Gentile
There was power of God that brings salvation
That's all it's like because I got that tattoo to my arm. So right
Titus 211 for the grace of God has appeared bringing salvation for all people. There's no buts. It's just all people
All right
Right there
Yeah, right
I bet is a show that I do youth ministry. I don't know what does
I'm okay. Oh, gosh, you get laughing at that because you're in youth group like you're in youth ministries
That's the problem, you know, you kind of end up just becoming your your crowd
Yeah, after that long. Yeah for sure. Yeah
and
Well, let's see what else what else is on the docket?
Um, let's see. We're gonna talk about
um
Our religious acts of vital that's one of them
Um
Testimonials and what they and what that means
Um, that one's also going to talk about like when is testimonials appropriate when they're not
I don't know if you've ever talked about that personally with your youth group or
Have actually looked into that much. Have you looked into that kind of stuff much at all or no?
But here and there so we've done a little bit. Um
You know, it's
It all depends. We've had a couple guest speakers and had them talk and go over it. Um
Me personally we haven't as gone over as a group. We have not gone over that entirely
all right
Like we go through a book or we have a series that we'll go through as well. So
Like right now we're in the middle of
Matthew
Which nice didn't sound like it was gonna be that long but now I'm like, oh, we're just at 15
We've been going for a while. So
And uh, but you know, sometimes you switch, you know, it all depends on what god's calling to
and true so and
Do my best to listen and not make it round. Oh, I want to teach this so
Well, uh, right gotta see that and see
You know what god's calling if he wants to do that then let's do it
Um, but our team will probably, you know
I'll get something and then somebody else forget it and then you know, confirm it which is awesome
Yeah, true
um
I think it was um
It that because like when you look into it a little bit more there's a difference
There's like two kind of testimonies. There's like like there's real testimony
Which is talking about like
What god has done for you and it's very god-focused. So people look to god with that testimony, right?
Um, that's the whole thing the testimony of jesus what he did testimony of how god has impacted you
But in the sense of what he has done for you, that's like a testimony that we're supposed to go out and talk about
Luke 8 39 talks about that
Second tennethy 1 8 talks about that
um
and then um
Yeah, so that kind of thing is important to do
The the issue is that like nowadays you can see people who use the word testimony and then talk about themselves a lot in that testimony
Where they're just like, oh, yeah god used me and I was able to blah blah blah blah blah
I did I did I did this we I did this we did this and then it's all of a sudden people are
Focused and thought on you rather than what god had did right?
Yeah, no 100% that's why
um
If I called you I thought I was talking with you a little while ago when another one of my friends, um
They had dealt with some demon oppression
And I was like oh snap and like
Because I had talked about it and I was like
That is like and the first thing I'm like, okay. It's really cool
When you know that god is giving you the ability and that you've you know
God let let you use his power
And cast out a demon
It feels really cool and it's I got it's a at that point. I was like, I remember this is god's power
I guess god who did that he just chose to use me to do it like
Right because as soon as you get away from you know, giving god the glory
It it comes like, you know, you're saying self-mission because they look at what I did me me me me me
It's like that's not how it works
Because without god we are nothing and right exactly. Yeah
Um, I think there was
I'm no this one. I know that I cannot think of it off the top of my head. I know that there was a verse that's like
Don't be like the Pharisees that
Um
They try to do the whole like look how great I am
Thing like to look religious or righteous or religious or whatever it was
They just do it to look good
Like oh, uh, like that was the whole oh, I remember it was the whole um
Proverb that they were talking about where the three rich men went in
Gave their tiding and they tithed
And it was a lot of money because it was just 10 percent or whatever what they had
But it was a lot of money because they were rich and then the woman who was poor gave everything she could
And they were laughing at her like that's nothing and then he said he she gave more than they did
And it was like that idea that it wasn't about
Obviously not looking the part for that like just looking like hey look at me. I'm doing all this stuff
It was mostly there to
Show that how much of what you gave
um
Was actually given like she gave already over quantity
right
um, what there's like the
What is it
Matthew six 19 to 21
Can you can you maybe let's see here
Matthew six 19 to 21 me type that in I think that's what it is. I got I got a double long ago
That's what it is do not store up for yourselves material treasures on earth were
Moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal but store up for yourself treasures in heaven
Yeah, that's the one Matthew six 19 to 21
So that's what came to mind when I was talking about that one
but uh
Had a double check
Yeah
um
Yeah, did you see the that was live earlier? No
What was live on facebook?
You were live. Yeah
You might have been you've been you might have been flying or something. I probably was flying
Go check that out
My arms are so sore. I'm flying
Yeah, go check that out
I will have to yeah
That one I went off and some of the stuff that I just talked about too. So that was fun. Yeah
Oh my gosh, wait open just I just close the app. No
What is going on? I'm okay there I fixed it
You're good. I know I'm good
This is a good intro just to kind of
Yeah, you know talk a little bit and discuss some stuff and
This is kind of what it's going to be like. We might have three people at once that here in the what once in a while and uh
Set for freaking man
Yeah
I found them
I'll have to like uh
I found them. I got to message them. Oh, yeah
Maybe not
Maybe not I don't know message them and be like hey we prayed for you. No
No, don't
I'm gonna put them there
No, but uh
Maybe we'll be able to get Jess on one of these podcasts. Oh that'd be awesome
I'm uh, you know your wife's pretty smart. So
Yeah
Cool. Well, so this um
I think this was a good intro. This was a good conclusion. This is a good way to end it. Um, obviously as we grow and get more people and
Um, you're not in Mexico when you're back home. We'll have yeah potentially higher audio quality better
thought out planned out
Yeah, um, obviously like the next couple episodes like next 16 17 episodes now
Have topics and questions like we already have the topic for this next the actual episode one podcast and all the questions. So
Yeah, which I'm pretty excited about. Yeah, I'm excited about it. Obviously prosperity gospel is one of the largest
Things in the u.s. Right now when it comes to church when you ask celebrities
Oh, are you Christian? Then they say yes, it's probably because they were in one of the prosperity gospel churches or something like that
A lot of the times. Oh, yeah
Mm-hmm
So it's interesting, but very true. Yeah, like, oh, yeah
Well, actually you're gonna edit it all this and have fun with that
All right, well, I'm gonna say yeah, I'm gonna end the podcast here
Sounds good. Yeah, and we'll see you on the next episode
Yeah
Okay
Peace out much much love
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