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Welcome to the Gospel Truth Project Podcast.

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I am your host and I'm here with my co-host.

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Hey guys.

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What's up Dylan?

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How are you doing today?

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I'm doing good.

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How are you?

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I mean, I'm doing pretty good.

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I'm really tired.

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I actually only got two hours of sleep last night so I'm ready to record today and then

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probably take a nap to be honest.

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Yeah that sounds good.

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Yeah that need to pass out.

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That's what needs to happen.

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It's complete and utter pass out.

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So today, now I did give you heads up so I hope you're ready.

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Well we'll see.

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I have obviously like if you're new to the podcast we've been kind of going back and

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forth a little bit where I'll host one.

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I'll have a topic.

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I might talk a little bit more because I have stuff to bring to the podcast and then Dylan

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rebuttals and talks about it and if we do end up having different views it's cool because

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then we can talk about it and walk through and discuss but the cool thing is that as

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people who see the Bible as authority it's really easy to work things out because we

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can look to the Bible because we don't have the truth ourselves.

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The Bible does and that's where we find truth is through that and through the word of God.

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So that's kind of the cool thing there.

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So today we are we are technically I'll say we are sponsored for today.

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Yes.

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Right.

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But it's interesting because we're sponsored by you the viewers.

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We're sponsored by you guys buying our merch.

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We're sponsored by you guys going and donating.

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We're sponsored by you guys just clicking play clicking download clicking the five star

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clicking follow all that stuff is sponsoring the podcast.

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So we thank you the listener for tuning in and actually sponsoring our podcast being

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a part of it.

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So that I just kind of wanted to say that because we have merch.

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We have a website gospel truth project dot com.

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We have places where you can donate and like I said 75 percent of all the proceeds all

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all profit that comes in whether it's profit or not all money that comes in 75 percent

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of it goes towards childhood cancer research and then the other 25 percent is split amongst

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all our different oversight which website graphic art designs hosting everything we

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do that 25 percent runs all of it.

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Yeah and I just say I have been lucky to get some of the first merch and the hat the GTP

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hat is super sick.

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It's clean.

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It's black with the white logo on it.

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Front is just really clean.

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I've been wearing it for a couple of days now and definitely would say get that before

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it runs out.

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And yeah just thank you to everybody who contributes and listens and just supports us.

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Money means a lot and just know that you know everything's everything is going to a good

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cause and it's not just you know just you know that wherever and your money is going

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to help things and not just fill our pockets.

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We're very careful where the 75 percent goes to like we're not just like throwing it at

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the first thing that says they help kids in cancer.

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Like we look at where's the money going.

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Are they 100 percent like nonprofit.

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Can we see if there's anybody saying that they helped.

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We look at these things because we want to make sure that it's important that we're supporting

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causes that take care of people.

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And right now we're doing a childhood cancer research and taking care of kids with cancer

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especially since it's such a it's a big thing that doesn't really get a lot of funding compared

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to other cancer research projects and other cancer research in general.

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So we we we are looking to do this every quarter of the year.

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We take 75 percent of the profit made for that quarter and it goes towards towards

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that.

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And we'll have on the Web site how much has been donated for the previous quarter and

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we'll just keep adding on because we'll make goals to hit basically like we want to hit

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We want to hit this amount and we'll keep raising that goal until we continue through.

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So day like I said I prepped this today.

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I'm excited for today.

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I gave you a heads up today.

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Not you know I gave you a heads up like two weeks ago.

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I was a little behind.

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So today we're actually talking about are we once saved always saved.

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And this is a good topic because it's a real good topic.

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I'm on a lot of different Christian forums and Web sites and Facebook pages and groups

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and stuff like that where I like to go on there and discuss ideology and apologetics

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and you know just kind of backing what the Bible says and like hey this is what this

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says it refers to this it refers to this.

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You can see literal translation of these words mean this etc. and I like discussing because

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you grow by discussing and debating in a in a very calm manner.

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And that's kind of what like I've been studying apologetics and apologetics is just like

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I said before one of the previous podcasts is just creating a case for what you believe

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in and why you believe in it in a in a court setting almost like very not really emotionally

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attached to what you're saying but it's saying it with a reason.

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Oh this is what the fact says.

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This is what the Bible says.

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This is what this actually says.

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That's why I believe this way.

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So that's kind of what I like doing.

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So one of the hot topics right now is one said always said because a lot of people are

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coming forward saying oh yeah well you know they might support this or they might be this

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way or they might like this but they were saved so they're always saved so that doesn't

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matter if they whatever they do.

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And I think this is a really hot topic right now.

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So that's why I'm bringing it forward today.

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Yeah I think this is one of those topics that you know it's splitting hairs a little bit

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because some people I mean well everything can be but you know where people are like

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well you know and some people are very decisive on what they believe and there's no gray area

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and some people are like well it depends on how far you go and how far you know either

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way either you know all right what how do you know you're truly saved and how do you

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know that you're not saved.

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And I think a good place to start off would be well how do you know that you are saved

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and what does it mean to be saved.

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So I think if we got to talk about that first before we bring up the topic of if you were

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once saved because this is where you ever truly saved.

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Right actually that's a good point.

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100% I think that is because you know some people they may think they've been walking

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with God or they might think they've you know accepted them but you know because I truly

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believe if you have 100% fully devoted and accepted God into your life I don't think

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that you can if you fully fully experience the presence of God and accepted him I don't

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think anybody in their right mind would choose to actively walk away.

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I got you and that's the way I look at it and that's what I think and that's what's

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my belief is because if you know God why would you choose anything else.

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And that's what I get at and that's where I kind of come at but I think once again like

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I said if we should talk about what does it mean to truly be saved.

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Right and we do have an episode on salvation where you and me sat down for I think it was

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an hour and 15 minutes.

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Just to kind of summarize that episode without going off too much into that topic you accept

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Christ into your life you're gifted the Holy Spirit the Holy Spirit gives you discernment

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and gives you the Holy Spirit's presence to help you through life understand what is and

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what isn't right before God and somebody that was talking to summarize salvation is that

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you know you're truly saved when when you sin you feel that remorse even John I know

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sorry Peter he says why does my body do what I don't want to do no no it was it was Peter

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Simon Simon Simon Peter no sorry no so Peter even said that like why does my body do what

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I don't want it to do and it's against what I want to do it and he's like he's mad because

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he understands what he did with sin he understands that we fall short the difference is that

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if you're truly saved and you have the Holy Spirit's presence you don't want to live in

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the flesh you are actively fighting and turning away from sin because you have that discernment

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if the Holy Spirit's not there then you are going to want to do the things that are sinful

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or of the flesh because you don't know better you just look at it as like yeah it just makes

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me feel good I want to do it oh that just feels right so I'm going to do it but that's

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where the Holy Spirit comes in once you're saved you understand what the what that is

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and that's why we're to study the word because you're actively wanting to know more like

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things will make you feel bad because you're like wow that really sucks like one of my

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family members not going to name drop they used to smoke they weren't Christian they

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smoked a lot of stuff I'm not going to go into it too much and they went to a church

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they found they found Christ and they accepted Christ into the life the Holy Spirit came

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upon them and every single addiction they had just fell off of them and I think later

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yeah about a year later he was with one of his old buddies and they decided well I'm

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he's like you know what I'm going to hang out with them I'm going to smoke one with

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them like a cigarette or something which he got off of those two like completely and he

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smoked it and he felt crap like he felt like he did the worst thing in his life cigarette

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right it was it was that whole thing right but it was a whole thing where he was like

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this is holy the Holy Spirit just said upon me I was like what are you doing like this

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is your old life you're dead to that life move on this is where I am now and he knew

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that it was wrong and he hated it he didn't want to go back he didn't want to be addicted

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anymore he didn't want to get into that and he dropped it and he walked he was like I'm

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done I'm not dealing with this and it just it goes to show that when you are saved you

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don't sin happily because you don't live in sin yeah so we will touch on that with this

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because that's part of the whole thing with the argument for once saved always saved and

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I think some of these verses I want I think we're gonna I think you and me are going to

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talk a little bit about a bit too because this yeah studying studying this with a lot

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of other people really opened my eyes to it and realized that I I was wrong and how I

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was thinking and understanding what the Bible actually talks about in in salvation in itself

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so definitely recommend go back listen to episode give me a second uh three episodes

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salvation yeah salvation what does it mean um yeah so so if you haven't listened to that

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one go back go on our socials and watch listen to that if not you have a summary it's all

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good um also I just wanted to chime in real quick too like what you said with uh your

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family member when they got um clean off it when they accepted I know there may be some

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new believers um listening that is not going to be everybody's case no or they and don't

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feel bad if you're still struggling with you know past sins and addictions uh seek counsel

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uh seek prayer and uh find some of me that you can help keep you accountable whether

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it be a friend family member uh spouse girlfriend whatever it is but remember just that it's

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the power of christ that can get you through those things not the person you're confiding

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in just so you're aware I just wanted to make sure because I mean it but it is a giant praise

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though when you hear something like that because sometimes miracles god works that way and

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sometimes you know bad things happen if you live in a fallen world and sometimes people

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get saved right away sometimes you know you gotta walk the valley right yeah um just wanted

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to share that right like I had to no no that's a good point that's really good to point out

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because it's not a that's that's not an always that way kind of thing that revelation um

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would make it super nice for everybody but I know that that's the whole the there is

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a there's a change the in the sense that you realize what you were doing is now yeah there's

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that change where it's like a flip of the switch where it's like wow this really makes

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me feel gross or this really is nasty like this makes me not like it like I do not like

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this stuff and it really starts to show you because that's what the holy spirit's telling

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you like hey this stuff's not of me like don't do these things and that's where you want

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to learn more about him so you read the bible and that way you can start studying and understand

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him more so that you're better prepped to deal with the things that come at you from

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the world because there's a lot of stuff in the world that will tear you down take you

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out bring you away stuff like that uh that's the enemy wants they want to you know kill

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still destroy so one of the verses that I was talking to this guy about he brought up actually

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john 10 27 to 28 um in this uh jesus he says my sheep hear my voice I know them and they

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follow me I give them eternal life and they will never perish no one will snatch them

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out of my hand this is a very common verse talking about not being pulled away from god

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right the yeah the one thing to remember there that he said first was I know them and they

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follow me that yes that is a choice for us to follow christ that's the whole point of

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christian follow christ um even in this right yeah and I've said it before too usually these

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verses and stuff like that you don't want to take them out of context we can look at

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these verses specifically the context for it is actually verse 22 to 42 so if you want

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to read that that's the whole section where um jesus is concerned and an overt kind of

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threat by the same religious leaders that have been castigating for years and uh he

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echoes metaphors of sheep and shepherds and he goes on to uh give sight after giving sight

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to a blind man you know so there's a lot of cool stuff in that section but this is one

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of the verses taken out of that saying like oh it says they'll never depart me but it

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does say that we have to follow him so if you're not actively following you know if

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it's like you know this is the safe area if you stay in the safe area you'll be safe well

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I don't want to go over there uh well you know I'm I'm still safe it's like well you're

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not in the safe area right if you're not you know it's like if you're playing a game of

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tag and you go outside the safe area you you might get tagged you you may not you may not

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survive you you know so that's why it's best is to you know stay in the safe area which

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is staying in you know staying in the word stay in a prayer mindset you know and to be

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active in it because it's and also you know another thing is too if you don't actually

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try to work on your faith or actually you know do anything you're going to go stagnant

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and you know the shepherd he walks you know and if you're not walking you know with with

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him you're not staying with the shepherd growing and walking with him you will be left behind

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right now and I feel like you know it's one thing you can say you're a christian but unless

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you're actually like walking the walk and trying to go through the steps your faith

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what is it oh my gosh what is it uh faith without works you're bringing up james oh

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great i knew what i was doing james james james too is really important because james

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too james homer yeah it's james too uh verse 26 if i remember correctly and it is the context

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there is 14 to 26 because he's talking about uh us as christians how we're supposed to

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walk in christ what that looks like and talk about faith without works etc that's we talked

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about this before but absolutely love that you brought in the book of james no yeah but

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it's true though and i think that's a big thing with it all you know without it's one

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thing you mean like you say i could say in the bodybuilder right if i don't go to the

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gym i don't do anything to lift but i say it does it make me a bodybuilder does it make

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me strong right no it doesn't i mean i am strong with this because i'm a very large

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person and i you know it's just the way i was god made me right um that's too showbun

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why did i say that that's just sounds conceited i am so sorry

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okay so they kind of did you get over them yes i have something for you then because okay

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um so you know the book of hebrews obviously right wait how does moses make his coffee real

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quick he bruised it yeah right so hebrews um if you don't know it was written for christians

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people who were already saved um it's explaining to christians at this time that jesus is superior

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to moses and all moses accomplishments and christians need to encourage each other to the

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fully trusting god in order to see fulfillment of his promises um that's what chapter three is about

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hebrew and as a whole um is to the audience of christians the newly christians and christians

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have been christians for a while to understand the the the new covenant and what we fall under

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under the new covenant and it's really important to distinguish that so in hebrews three

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verse 12 which the context here is verse seven through fourteen but hebrews 312 um now uh the

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direct translation here is take care of brothers and sisters this is in christ that there will not

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be any one of you an evil unbelieving heart that falls away from the living god um it's really

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important to distinguish there's two greek words here which is apistias and apostinei

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those are translated what you call me no apistias and apostinei so when it says uh in the esv version

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it actually uses unbelieving heart lead you to fall away from the living god and

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respectively apostinei is the word from which we get the term apostasy which means a rebellion or

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defiance of authority it's most like frequently used to describe those who completely leave the

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christian faith however like most such terms are varied levels of meanings of falling away in this

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case the meaning is that of sin and faithlessness not open rejection of god so it's lily you can

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have faith and because he's talking to a christian audience who are already saved and telling them

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don't uh don't live in sin don't be sinful don't be unbelieving don't lose faith don't lose heart

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because you'll be turned away you'll fall away um king james version even says you'll be departed

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like in departing from the living god um you got christian standard bible which uses this and says

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unbelieving heart that turns away from the living god um there's a lot of different it all comes to

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the same understanding that as christians there you can choose to walk away but you are full

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acknowledgement like you were saying earlier it's crazy to think this but there are people

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who understand what is right and don't want to do it and choose to um don't want to believe in it

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because they don't that's not they they want to gratify the flesh more or they learn to gratify

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the flesh or they start to not believe in what the message is of the word and then they start to have

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sin in their life and the life of sin will come in and just destroy which you also mentioned which

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is the kill steal and destroy this is just something hebrus talks about um we can see that as well

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in first john um as one who has been born of god practices sin right because his seed remains in

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him and he cannot sin continually because he has been born of god and this is this is interesting

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because it it talks about making a practice of sin like i was telling like you and me were talking

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about earlier with sin is that once you understand and receive the holy spirit you understand

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oh that doesn't feel right that's wrong like this is sin i don't want to do this this is gross

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so if you understand god it's not you can't just keep on that way or living on the life of sin

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continuously because it's gross which you were saying that obviously that it it's like who is

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it's like who would do that that's insane if you understand it now right it is yeah and uh what i'm

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getting at is like it takes i think it takes a lot more faith to walk away i mean i i could ever

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understand that i guess something you know the main thing i always think i hear is like where where

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was he when this happened and where was he when that happened right you know uh

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you know this person has cancer now and they believed it's like but this thing is that we

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live in a world that's faulted and i think people forget that and you know it's easier to be like oh

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it's you know it's all messed up because you know god doesn't you know he's supposed to save us

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he's supposed to do this i think just easier for people to i don't know cop out and say

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well that's you know you know who who knows if steven we're real it's like but it even says

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but it even says it like it's not going to be easy if you follow right and that's i think that goes to

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not being fully equipped and not fully knowing because if you don't realize that when you're

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called to be a believer in a christian it says in the bible it's not going to be easy it's going to

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be full of trials and and misfortune because as a christian you look at like an axe i want to say

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it's verse uh six and seven but like steven was the first martyr in the bible he he's going there

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and the holy spirit is on him he's glowing with it and he's talking preaching in front of the

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synagogue and the people about god and he's on fire for them and they're like you know what we're

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done with you and he basically told them like yo look it this is a prophecy and boom boom boom boom

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boom the holy spirit was flowing through him and he's like this is what is right you're all wrong

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then they're like you know what take steven out back we're throwing rocks at him and he got stoned

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like not the good stoned right like the bad stoned seven yeah like the one that kills you

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um so anyways sorry i heard that from pastor one time always that it was funny because it was the

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middle of youth group and he's like and not you think it's a good stone and every single like

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he's looking like what so like to this day i still say that i just taught him that too like a couple

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weeks ago i see that to the kids i'm gonna keep thinking like what what did you just say i'm like

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it's all the reason it's said is because it adds it catches them off guard when they're not

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paying attention well the lesson yeah i'm like i see all that pokemon go i'm like quit trying

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quit trying to take that gym over um yeah that's act seven that you're talking about yeah act seven

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that's where excited um but it's like that you know it's like we're not called to have it easy

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people are you know like here in america we have it the easiest like china they have to they'll walk

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16 hours they'll travel 16 hours to go to church on sunday and then they have their bibles memorized

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because if they get caught with it they go into jail and it's burned like and then there's like

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me you know on sunday as a pastor i'm like i don't want to go like yeah like i'm like this sunday i was

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like i'm kind of tired it's been a long week and then yeah my fiance is not feeling good so she's

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like i don't feel good i can't go i'm like sick i'm like i really don't want to go now i want to

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sit by myself and there's all these things that you know go like you know like hey you don't want

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you to go but it's important though to go and have fellowship and because we are going through all

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this hurt stuff right and i think that's where a lot of people get you know when they fall away

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on their walk is when they lack that fellowship

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because if you don't have somebody feeding into you you don't you don't you're not connected

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it's easy to feel isolated and this is a you know it's a bunch of hogwash so

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so and i think that's a big thing for a lot of people is like well you know look what the church

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does you know uh look at all this stuff look you know like all the bad things that happen in the

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church people have been hurt by a church and i you know you hear i hear that a lot you know like

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same and it's like yeah there is a lot of hurt that's why you know like and i don't blame people

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i mean well no i blame the people not the church and then you know if the church doesn't do anything

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about it it's 100% on that community but you need to find a good community right that's the biggest

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thing yeah no it's a it's a good point and obviously with the church thing i touched up on

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one of our blog posts that we actually have live and oh yeah yeah when it comes to the church people

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tend to think i'm christian so i go to church which makes me christian and that's false religion and

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it's really easy to fall into that because we don't follow man we follow christ which is why it's

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christ christian it's it's the word following christ follower of christ the savior um which is

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really an important distinguishment when it comes to how this is supposed to play out um i know uh

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one of the verses ended up talking about was uh first john 3 9 because this is one that

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uh they brought up on their side they use a lot of the king james so they're like it's whosoever

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or is begotten of god does not sin because his seed abides in him he cannot sin because he is

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begotten of god this is this is a good verse and um the context here is actually first first john

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three four through ten um because it's strongly condemning sin it leaves no excuse for it um it

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interprets it as a kind of like a litmus test for salvation actually if you read through it you'll

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know what i mean john's specific audience is actually christian believers in this instance

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and salvation is no excuse for sin because all sin is from the devil our flesh not god then always

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disrupts our god our walk with god and those who only walk in sin and darkness cannot claim to be

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children of god if you go to the christian standard version you can see it says everyone who has been

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born of god does not sin because his seed remains in him he is not able to sin because he has been

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born of god now here's the interesting thing this doesn't mean that we are blameless and without sin

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because only jesus was blameless and without sin we have sinned and we will sin again because we

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fall short but what is seed this is the important part in that verse that was used because i asked

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that person like what do you think the word seed means because that's that's a good center point

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to that verse and if you look at the word seed itself the that is actually talking about the

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word like actually the word of god so when it's talking about

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the the seed it's the word of god that continues to abide in him we can see that and i think it's

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uh it's matthew remember correctly um matthew 13 19 that talks about it where it's like the if if

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you're planting seeds with other people like sharing the gospel and you don't water that seed

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and they don't understand what they're being given that satan can take that seed and it's an

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interesting it's interesting because it just comes to show that you can't just tell someone

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jesus loves you john 3 16 and walk away it's more than that it's not just shouting a verse at someone

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or else we could just put a picket sign out on the corner and do save thousands of people every

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single day um in this instant it's talking about we abide by the word of god which is scripture

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which is the bible which we have that connects us to god and understand his word and get closer

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to him and then with abiding by that we shared that with others and continue to share that with

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others to help them grow not just throw seeds and hope they land somewhere and eventually maybe

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something will grow out of it it's like we continue like farmers to continue to reap to uh help that

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grow by giving more and more to that person showing them love showing them compassion showing them the

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truth of what god is who he is why it's important how we have grace i have grace you have grace

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because of god because what he did through jesus there's a lot of really cool stuff with that

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there i wanted to touch up on a verse because i wanted to get back on topic a little bit but i

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just kind of did tangent there a little bit first corinthians 9 27

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uh if you don't know the context it's verse 24 to 27 um this verse i want us to see what you think

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about this verse this verse it says um in the american standard bible uh bible it says but i

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strictly discipline my body and make it my slave so that after i have preached to others i myself

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will not be disqualified

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yeah so i was muted i didn't realize i was muted um again so no yeah i like that the way it talks

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about you know our body and everything and just yeah

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well it's like paul remains in the state of like continual training because he does not want to be

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disqualified yeah he's not talking about losing salvation as a result of sin though yeah but it's

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it's the constantly training like your body you know and it's not only your body you know keep

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taking care of that because it's your temple but like also training you know your spiritual side

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of constantly bettering yourself and your walk with christ

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so like that is something i was you know i think about um

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a lot well you you can cross reference it with the

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second peter uh yeah one 110 where it says therefore brothers and sisters make effort

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to confirm your calling and election because if you do these things you'll never stumble

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and in this sense it's talking about stumbling from like what god's called you because you're

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confirming what you are called to do in christ and you see in this situation back to the first

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corinthians 927 you can see it paul is recognizing that he is called to do something greater than

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what he thinks and he's afraid that he's going to be disqualified for not doing what he's being

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called to do and he feels like i gotta do this um and then it's that it's that uh christian

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discipline of making sure that you're doing what god's calling you to do and and trusting him and

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and and trust in him and that's consistent with how paul teaches about christ and what we're

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supposed to do and even in this whole chapter you can see paul encourages christians to willingly

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give up their rights for the good of those who are weak in their faith paul shows that he too

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has given up his rights including the right as an apostle to receive financial support from those he

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serves he boasts that he serves the currents without any compensation even at great cost to himself

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paul describes himself as like an athlete kind of like competing for a prize of a crown of eternity

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and his point is for believers to pursue godliness and the good of others with the kind with that kind

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of commitment that kind of intensity yeah and i think that's a lot uh that gets lost i feel about

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nowadays at least like well like i said here in here in the states

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like yeah and you anywhere else where you actually have to be on top of your faith and willing to die

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for it every day i think keeps them a lot more sharper than it keeps us i agree yeah you know

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if we're the middle east and sundry's like oh i disagree with you i i believe that i should kill

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you for what you believe you know here that doesn't happen you know we're not jailed for

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it well at least not yet you know right not deemed as hate speech or anything like that

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but it's it's important it really is and i think we just i think in the u.s. we have a different

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issue and that issue is a lot subtler subtle a lot more subtle than other countries who deal with

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persecution flat out we deal with warping of truths and and mixing and we have like the which we talk

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about the before the deconstructionist and you have people who are like i'm getting rid of all

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the the the church whatever that corrupted me and all i need is love just look at what it's the whole

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there's so many different things from the different basically branches are not

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not branches can't say they're branches they're not the um false teachings oh yeah

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they they claim to be part of christianity when they're not look at you know you know it says

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revelation and then like the very end it's anybody who adds or takes from this book you know

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you're you're you're done skis you know like you're in trouble and it's just like you know uh look at

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you know those guys that sort of off of new york joseph smith and all that and the mormons they

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added to it they've added a book they said oh there's actually a third part it's a trilogy

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everybody loves the trilogy it and then you know there's things like that that are really

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it and then you know there's things like that that are just it's

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it's false um if you have any mormons listening not an attack on you at all just i would look

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at more like what it says in isaiah and i look at more of what it says about adding or taking away

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from the bible and um i would just dig more into uh what you've been taught um

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also i just i feel like i don't know where i was going with this now

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no it's so good uh hold on hold on where was i going with it refresh me

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well i was i was talking about like the how the u.s has a different situation you were talking

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about false prophets frost false prophets that's what we deal with and then you know there's that

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and there's a whole you know uh deconstruction of the bible there's all these ways that it's been

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perverse and changed even though it's very it's black and white there's no gray area

412
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:45,400
be hotter hotter cold and we spit out into the flames yep and that's the bottom line you know

413
00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:53,080
uh i could ask the little little fifth-year-old boy you know you know what does it mean to

414
00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:59,480
love jesus and what is it you know i can get a little you know the little child like it's

415
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:04,920
this childlike face you know what does it mean i almost like i should just call him over here

416
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:15,960
and ask him right like it's simple but if you want to add add stuff to it and perverse it

417
00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:22,200
and then you know it takes away and that's how people can fall away it's because there's so much

418
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:30,200
muck and so much just dirty water basically it's it you know every need that get that

419
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:38,600
rid of filters maybe that jesus to filter out the negativity and the incorrect information right

420
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:47,880
yeah yeah yeah okay you know that's good and like i said it's in the u.s it's different like we have

421
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:54,280
we have an issue of too many people feeling too freely to do whatever they want with the bible

422
00:42:54,280 --> 00:43:00,680
rather than understanding that it's not my truth but god's truth that runs supreme and that god's

423
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:08,760
the center not me and we see that as a really big issue in general it on any spectrum of

424
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:16,040
church in the u.s you see they're really hardcore where it's like well you vote a certain way you're

425
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:21,400
not christian or you are christian which politics shouldn't be involved in the sense of like who

426
00:43:21,400 --> 00:43:29,320
you're standing with god god didn't say like oh you like that pompous pilot no and then you had

427
00:43:29,320 --> 00:43:34,280
the other side of it where it's like all we need is love love is love love is love no matter what

428
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:39,960
and then it's like well jesus is love jesus is love christ but what does this look like

429
00:43:42,760 --> 00:43:49,320
right but what does that look like yeah what you need to be it's a you know it's like a father they

430
00:43:49,320 --> 00:44:00,120
love firm correcting but there you know what i mean it's like i think of my father you know

431
00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:06,120
he's like hey i love you man and then i don't disobey you know get a little swift swift pat on

432
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:12,520
the butt hey i've talked to you i don't want to do this you know it doesn't make me happy

433
00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:18,520
like i don't want to have to correct you in a way that's gonna bring you harm but if you're not

434
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:24,360
gonna listen that's what is gonna happen and it's and i do it because i love you that's the same

435
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:31,960
thing i say too now i'm like look at you bubba i don't want to i don't like it i don't enjoy it

436
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:38,360
like it doesn't make me happy it makes me sad right i understand that you instead of that more

437
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:44,200
you're standing at more i at least i do now you know nothing nothing

438
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:54,520
nowhere does that bring a father joy to have to do that but it's like it's something that you just

439
00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,280
you have to do and i think that comes down to like god he he knows that you know we need that

440
00:45:00,840 --> 00:45:08,120
that firm but loving hand and as christians sometimes we have to be firm from what we believe in

441
00:45:08,120 --> 00:45:12,520
but also have that loving understanding and i don't think people always see that like

442
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:17,880
yeah we're going to disagree with you on things and stand up for what we believe because we have to

443
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:27,160
because that is the way the the light and the truth right and i think people yeah and i think

444
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:35,480
people that maybe that have walked away and that aren't saved some people have a problem with that

445
00:45:35,480 --> 00:45:42,200
like well we have to be as happy to everybody it's like no i'm sorry you have to love them but you

446
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:49,160
don't have sometimes somebody needs a firm hand like uh you know like between you and your brother

447
00:45:49,160 --> 00:45:56,200
she was more stubborn right you know think of that as a kid growing up you know there's always that

448
00:45:56,200 --> 00:46:03,320
one kid you know that stubborn kid and they needed you know they needed a firmer hand like my brother

449
00:46:03,320 --> 00:46:09,640
me we were pretty stubborn and sometimes we needed a firmer hand and i think sometimes that turns

450
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:16,120
people away right because then like oh i don't like that it's like well you know no nobody likes that

451
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:23,000
but it depends on each person some people see that as necessary some people don't

452
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:28,200
right i i think um

453
00:46:28,200 --> 00:46:34,360
i i wanted to add in on this because kind of getting back on the og topic once they always said

454
00:46:34,360 --> 00:46:42,440
is this biblical or is it not and the bible teaches a christian can sin in such a way

455
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:48,200
that would be he'll be worse conditioned than when he was in before he became a christian

456
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:54,600
if you don't know this reference right off the bat second peter 2 20 through 22 peter wrote

457
00:46:54,600 --> 00:46:59,480
for if after they have escaped the pollutions of the world through the knowledge of the lord

458
00:46:59,480 --> 00:47:06,360
and savior jesus christ they are again entangled therein and overcome the latter and is worse with

459
00:47:06,360 --> 00:47:12,120
them than the beginning for it had better for them not to have known the way of righteousness

460
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:18,040
than after they have known it to turn from the holy commandment delivered unto him but it it

461
00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:24,920
turned from the holy commandment delivered unto him but it it but it is happened unto them

462
00:47:24,920 --> 00:47:31,000
according to the true proverb the dog has turned to his own vomit again and the so that was washed

463
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:36,680
to her wallowing in the mire and we can see that the dog turned into his own vomit and the so that

464
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:42,120
was washed turned back to her own wallowing in the mire are used to people who have become

465
00:47:42,120 --> 00:47:47,080
christians like this verse is talking about left their life of sin and then went back into that

466
00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:54,120
sinful world and if in the latter end they still saved how could their latter end possibly worse

467
00:47:54,120 --> 00:48:01,960
in the beginning so this right here just show that living that life of sin not just sinning and oh no

468
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:08,680
i lost salvation again no we we are saved saved through faith and by grace alone by faith alone

469
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:15,720
but this is saying that living like living in sin living a life of sin is different because you are

470
00:48:15,720 --> 00:48:23,560
choosing to go against god just like i said when when uh like my family member they're just like

471
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:28,360
this is wrong they started doing it they did one thing like this is wrong i can't do this i won't

472
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,960
do this it's because they listen to the holy spirit tell them like this is sin this is wrong

473
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:39,640
for you to do and they're like yep i agree i'm not doing this anymore nope i'm out and that was

474
00:48:39,640 --> 00:48:44,440
because of that holy spirit but if you sit there like i don't care like i understand this is wrong

475
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:50,760
but i want to keep doing it because i want to do what i want to do that is the understanding here

476
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:58,760
that you can be saved but you can go back to living life of sin without remorse without

477
00:48:58,760 --> 00:49:07,560
repentance without turning away from it and that's important to distinguish i mean even in uh the

478
00:49:07,560 --> 00:49:15,320
parable the vine and the branches when jesus said every branch in me that bears no fruit he'd take

479
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:26,840
us away which is john 15 yeah so it's it's just showing that like the intensity here and when you

480
00:49:26,840 --> 00:49:32,120
talk about fruits in the bible it's usually like that of your labor like just if the holy spirit's

481
00:49:32,120 --> 00:49:38,840
within you it doesn't mean all of a sudden you're like oh well now i got to you know go to the

482
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:44,520
homeless shelter and start feeding people i gotta do works now it's like no i'm saved through faith

483
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:51,320
by faith alone through grace and grace of god through christ the cool thing is is that that

484
00:49:51,320 --> 00:49:58,520
part of christianity of being kind to others showing love support care being patient with others

485
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:04,360
being calm minded all that stuff it talks about the holy spirit and the fruits of the spirit in

486
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:11,560
galatians 5 that stuff comes when you start listening and following christ which is why we

487
00:50:11,560 --> 00:50:18,120
are told to follow him which is that whole thing that paul was using as like a race like like okay

488
00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:22,520
we need to he's like i need to finish the race i need to do a good job i need to it's like that

489
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:29,400
competitive like i want to embrace god i want to share who he is i want to be a part of that

490
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:37,160
because i hate this filth that's making me feel gross and not good i want the real thing i want

491
00:50:37,160 --> 00:50:43,560
the real truth the real happiness the real satisfaction the real peace that i get through

492
00:50:43,560 --> 00:50:51,080
christ and that's something that we get once we accept him receive the holy spirit and then

493
00:50:51,080 --> 00:50:56,520
that stuff starts to follow as long as we are listening and connecting with him by reading

494
00:50:56,520 --> 00:51:04,520
and praying etc yeah it's a different it's completely different you know uh i think that's

495
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:11,160
the biggest thing like i was saying i think people that said they've walked away i don't know if they've

496
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:15,960
ever truly i said when i've heard that like well i used to believe and i walked away when i hear

497
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:22,120
that i'm like i instantly i think it's judgmental in a sense where i'm like i don't think you ever

498
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:30,440
truly believed or actually had a real relationship with jesus you know right and that's that's my

499
00:51:30,440 --> 00:51:36,280
opinion always because i'm going like nah man because if you knew if you knew the way i know

500
00:51:36,280 --> 00:51:45,480
if you knew the way that you know if you truly knew christ there's you know there's no other

501
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:51,640
option there's no other way and life is like you like you just said in that person

502
00:51:53,160 --> 00:51:58,440
that is what it's all about there is no other way you know the

503
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:05,400
life is just all it's all together better with him even when you're going through the bad parts

504
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:14,840
it's better through christ like and i yes i yeah there there's a

505
00:52:17,320 --> 00:52:23,240
there's a there's a thing where i see it more often nowadays where

506
00:52:23,240 --> 00:52:29,160
if you're not strong in the bible and what god says and because it's a really fine line like

507
00:52:29,640 --> 00:52:35,320
how to act with people how to talk how to to share the word of god how to preach the word of god how

508
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:42,600
to preach the gospel and it is a fine line and people say well what do you mean by fine line and

509
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:48,040
and i say fine line in the sense that you can't just walk up to people like i said earlier and

510
00:52:48,040 --> 00:52:53,960
just say john 3 16 jesus loves you or wow look at that person they are sinning that's not

511
00:52:54,600 --> 00:53:02,600
productive you don't speak yeah you speak positive hey look i i'm a sinner you share your testimony

512
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:08,680
i'm a sinner i was in ruts i was dealing with like i was struggling with this i was struggling with

513
00:53:08,680 --> 00:53:15,080
that my life was rough things were getting bad i was overwhelmed i was in a situation where i was

514
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:21,240
rough things were getting bad i was overwhelmed and then i found god and when i found him and

515
00:53:21,240 --> 00:53:29,240
accepted him as my lord my savior the one who i want to follow i was blessed with the holy spirit

516
00:53:29,240 --> 00:53:36,120
just like everybody else can be and i was given peace i was given this new life where i understand

517
00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:44,760
who i am in him and what makes him so important and the thing is is that if you don't keep studying

518
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:52,600
and keep reading and keep seeking him not because uh not because it's like a closer thing or because

519
00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:59,400
it's like uh it's you want to know him because it's a relationship part yes but you want to

520
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:04,760
grow in him so that you are stronger to help others get to him as well and understand who he

521
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:10,360
is and accept him too but the issue is is that people who say they're christian especially in

522
00:54:10,360 --> 00:54:17,320
the u.s they maybe read once a week like on sunday and think that church is the only time they read

523
00:54:17,320 --> 00:54:21,320
church is the only time they worship church is the only time they pray and then when they go out to

524
00:54:21,320 --> 00:54:27,080
the world for six days that week they're dealing with things being thrown at them saying look at

525
00:54:27,080 --> 00:54:31,560
these christians who are bigoted look at these christians who don't know better look how hateful

526
00:54:31,560 --> 00:54:37,080
this is and you see it all over media all these random churches who say this say that do this do

527
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:43,560
that screaming and yelling and it's like those are wrong ways to do things they are they're not true

528
00:54:43,560 --> 00:54:48,600
christians if you're acting like that because there's no good fruit from it you can see that

529
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:55,480
it's very obvious but that's where we have to understand who god is and we see in this world a

530
00:54:55,480 --> 00:55:02,200
lot especially here in the u.s where people take that and say no you're right that's hateful that's

531
00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:06,680
wrong we shouldn't treat people like that we shouldn't say these things let people be people

532
00:55:06,680 --> 00:55:13,240
love is love and all of a sudden you're dealing with doubt that the bible is even real there's

533
00:55:13,240 --> 00:55:19,240
deconstruction everywhere saying look the bible's fake this is fake this is unreliable this pastor

534
00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:23,960
said this one word wrong so he's wrong so that whole chapter is wrong this is wrong and there's

535
00:55:23,960 --> 00:55:32,040
so much stuff out there that people tend to agree with it because it's so overwhelmingly loud

536
00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:38,600
and it's just like in your face constantly this is what's going like you're wrong and this is why

537
00:55:38,600 --> 00:55:43,880
you're wrong you get tick tock you scroll through deconstruction bible and you scroll through it

538
00:55:43,880 --> 00:55:49,400
it's just constantly like this is why jesus was gay this is why god is trans this is why

539
00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:54,920
you know you see it constantly this is why you know the apostles were actually all lovers this

540
00:55:54,920 --> 00:56:01,240
is why jesus slept with peter and like you see all the stuff this is why you know joseph was

541
00:56:01,240 --> 00:56:07,080
joseph i wasn't who he says he was this is why mary is unimportant this is why you see all the

542
00:56:07,080 --> 00:56:11,800
stuff that starts coming up and it's constant this is why we're closer to the end times

543
00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:19,880
right no and it no it's true no i know it's just it's those things that you know

544
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:30,120
yeah it's stuff like that it's like it's sad to see but you know you know it's more it's coming

545
00:56:30,120 --> 00:56:38,600
i mean but it's like i have something i used the pastor with and i see their stuff now i'm going

546
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:45,240
like man this people something like they've fallen off the deep end because i'm like but see like

547
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:50,440
they're they're not walking with god anymore that's where i'm going like dang like you actively chose

548
00:56:50,440 --> 00:57:01,960
that but also i think because we live like i said in america and in this environment where

549
00:57:04,200 --> 00:57:09,880
you know where you get fed a bunch of bull crap and you buy into it

550
00:57:11,720 --> 00:57:15,320
this person sort of getting at the whole deconstruction of the bible

551
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:22,840
they started you know all of a sudden you know buying into all this stuff they're posting all

552
00:57:22,840 --> 00:57:31,320
this crazy stuff left their their spouse and all this stuff going like why like oh you know it is

553
00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:40,200
not it's not what we we want and it's i'm like what you made a covenant with god like

554
00:57:40,200 --> 00:57:48,920
like like what are you doing to your children like it is stuff like that and it's like it's

555
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:55,160
not a big deal and it's something i say it it just it's mind-boggling to me

556
00:57:56,120 --> 00:58:03,080
because i'm about to get married and i'm like and that is like that is my main focus and i'm like

557
00:58:03,080 --> 00:58:11,160
there's no way you'd have to i'd try to you'd have to kill me only way i'm leaving her you know like

558
00:58:12,040 --> 00:58:18,200
i just i don't get that and like the way to follow that is off the rocker and be that backwards

559
00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:28,920
it's the only way i see it being a thing where you don't know yeah yeah yeah i get you get

560
00:58:28,920 --> 00:58:35,560
you you drink the silly juice and you basically you know what i mean i don't that's best what i

561
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:45,240
can put it you drink the kool-aid and next to all of a sudden oh oh yeah you know uh jesus was gay

562
00:58:45,240 --> 00:58:51,400
it's like what now it's like where where biblicaly does it ever say anything

563
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:58,440
it's like that will be our next episode i i really want to talk about that stuff in general

564
00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:05,960
we should we should because i've got lots of words and things to say i um i'll add in because i know

565
00:59:05,960 --> 00:59:14,680
who you're talking about and um i i was watching tiktok and there oh and you saw i did see that and

566
00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:21,880
you know the thing is is that it doesn't like it doesn't make me mad and angry it kind of makes me

567
00:59:21,880 --> 00:59:28,840
sad it made me sad and the only reason why it only reason why it made me sad was because it was an

568
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:37,400
understanding that the actively choosing to go against god and what the bible says because

569
00:59:37,400 --> 00:59:45,960
someone who was influencing them on tiktok media news wherever yeah was was throwing them a gospel

570
00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:50,760
that seemed more attractive than what they read with their own eyes and what they were learning

571
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:58,120
and you know and that could be that could be very little that could be contributed to the church

572
00:59:58,120 --> 01:00:03,320
that they were at it could be we don't know like just like not a strong foundation and like

573
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:08,680
understanding what apologetics are because you got to learn apologetics to understand how to

574
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:13,000
talk about different subjects and why we believe what we believe rather than just believing

575
01:00:13,000 --> 01:00:19,400
something and you know if you do study apologetics for anyone listening it's the idea of studying the

576
01:00:19,400 --> 01:00:24,360
bible to the point to where you know why you believe what you believe not just taking things

577
01:00:24,360 --> 01:00:30,920
for word at face value taking things because someone said so it's because you understand why

578
01:00:31,400 --> 01:00:36,520
so that when people come at you and say this is why do you believe that that's wrong like i remember

579
01:00:36,520 --> 01:00:43,320
seeing a tiktok uh one of my co-workers was playing a tiktok um and was talking about

580
01:00:43,320 --> 01:00:48,120
deconstruction of the bible and they're like well you know did you know the bible blah blah blah

581
01:00:48,120 --> 01:00:52,760
blah and i looked over at them and they're like hey you're a christian aren't you i'm like yeah

582
01:00:52,760 --> 01:00:57,720
they're like have you heard this before i said well it's it's wrong he's like what do you mean

583
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:03,560
i'm like well so what they said was this if you read the original hebrew and greek that's what

584
01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:08,840
this means that's what this means and that verse is referring to this chapter in the old testament

585
01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:13,240
which that verse if you look at the original he like the hebrew for it you can see that's this

586
01:01:13,240 --> 01:01:18,520
and that's what this means and that's what this means so when they are saying deconstruct the bible

587
01:01:18,520 --> 01:01:24,600
this is what is actually what you should be believing in you can already count it out because

588
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:29,400
the words that they're they're saying don't even line up with the words that they're they're reading

589
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:36,040
and the original translations original like the verse itself references three other verses that

590
01:01:36,040 --> 01:01:41,000
back up its statement and they were ignoring those verses because it doesn't back up what they wanted

591
01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:48,760
as truth and that happens all the time with bible deconstruction yeah and all it takes is somebody

592
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:57,640
who has you know all it takes is open up your bible well not even that study like the study

593
01:01:57,640 --> 01:02:02,920
and know the word yeah i mean that's what i'm saying it's all it takes yeah get all the study

594
01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:11,320
bible and and all this you know nonsense and this is the main thing getting on the point of what is

595
01:02:12,120 --> 01:02:18,360
anybody who was once saved to lose salvation it's because they fall for something that is false a

596
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:24,520
false teaching right which is what i was saying earlier is that you can be led astray you can be

597
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:32,200
you can be led astray i think yeah if you allow if you don't if you don't have the full armor

598
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:37,480
the lord on and you're actually following god and you're equipped and you're ready to go

599
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:44,760
and if you don't do that you leave you leave room for the enemy to come and influence you

600
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:55,720
and to lose your salvation because you fall you fall for a lie yeah and it's sad and i i've had

601
01:02:55,720 --> 01:03:03,080
multiple sadly i've had multiple friends who have walked away from the faith of faith in christ

602
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because of their experience in the church and if your faith relied on a church then

603
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you weren't equipped you weren't equipped correctly that's not what christ is about it's not about the

604
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church the building it's not about the people it's about him and your relationship with him and

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learning and adapting and growing with him and with the church the church is there to help you

606
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communicate and have community with like-minded people who are looking for the same thing you are

607
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which is a closer connection to christ and understanding him more but the issue is a lot

608
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of people think that church is the only thing that makes them christian and then they bring a lot of

609
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crud from their six days out of the week of not being around god into their church life

610
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and it really brings it really brings a lot of stuff to the church that's not healthy

611
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now that doesn't say that doesn't mean that we shouldn't allow them that means that we should

612
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know that not everybody you meet in church is going to be christ-like

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but you want them there so that they can learn how to be christ-like

614
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because not everybody is in a different stage of their walk with christ everybody there's people

615
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that are new some that are old some people that are you know elders some people that have just

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you know are just figuring out the books you know of the bible and i think that's the problem is that

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people forget that yeah i will say uh two things before i wrap it up first go listen to our

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episode number five about what is bible deconstruction great episode yes that way you

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can learn more about that um it's also go listen to episode six which is what is the church that

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was our most popular episode that thing has like thousands of downloads so it's really awesome to

621
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see people talk about that um just go to a ball right listen to them i hope you're at this episode

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thinking wow i've already listened to everything before this chronologically i was ready for this

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the other point i wanted to bring across is that a good friend of mine put it this way

624
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church is a jamba juice christianity is a jamba juice someone comes in and says as i only drink

625
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coffee why don't you guys serve coffee well you're welcome to come in here and you're welcome to have

626
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some jamba juice but we don't have coffee we don't serve coffee that's not what we serve here

627
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:42,440
well why don't you serve coffee because we're we don't do that's not us we are jamba juice we have

628
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fruits it's healthy for you it's good for you i can recommend some stuff to help you along the way

629
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well what if i just bring my own coffee machine and i could set up shop here and i could teach

630
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i could show other people and get them coffee well no because this is our business this is how

631
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this is how things run and has run and this is what we serve this is what we have it doesn't

632
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change what you believe like you can choose to take some fruit you can choose to take the jamba

633
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juice you can choose to take a smoothie i have recommendations to help you out and pick from but

634
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you're trying to set up shop here that's not what we sell what we're discussing that's not what we

635
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we give we give fruit we give jamba juice you cannot have a mocha chai latte you get a rasmataz

636
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and you'll like it so that concept is the same thing right that concept is the same thing with

637
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with the church and christians how we should interact with people who who live in sin or

638
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live a life of sin you are you don't understand sin is sin until you receive the holy spirit

639
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and acknowledge that you need the holy spirit to determine what is right and wrong because you can

640
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say well you know this isn't sin because you don't have the holy spirit to tell you hey by the way

641
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that's kind of gross or that's kind of messed up or that's not what i want that's not what god is

642
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and that's the whole point of salvation you're saved you receive the holy spirit and then

643
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everything else starts to fit into where you're like oh i don't like doing this i don't like doing

644
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that because the holy spirit is like hey that is not godly that is not what i designed this is not

645
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this is not my jamba juice this is not my jamba juice you're in a starbucks sir you need to go

646
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back to jamba juice oh my gosh you're making a t-shirt this is not my jamba juice i can do that

647
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but i mean might get hit with that copyright oh dang this ain't my juice this is not my fruit

648
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juice this is not my juice i don't know i could put it like um can i have coffee we serve juice

649
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something simple we serve juice we serve juice so like i like that idea of me serve juice but

650
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the the thing is is that that is a great analogy to understand when christian true christian

651
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uh biblically founded churches say everyone welcome and then still teach the gospel correctly and

652
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teach god's word correctly because everyone is welcome to accept christ or not accept christ

653
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we gotta show them show people why we need christ why we need god why is faith in christ so important

654
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why accepting him is important showing that is still very very important to salvation and

655
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and understanding that everybody is welcome but that's not for them to have a platform to

656
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share their coffee with us because that's not that's not the goal here the goal is i'll show

657
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them why why the fruit is healthy my smoothies are healthy because that's what was designed that way

658
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god gave us this and is showing us the right way the right path to salvation through him and through

659
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jesus and that's the obligation of christians into the church and people see that as hate speech

660
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well you must hate coffee then well i've been i am told that fruit is better smoothies are better

661
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for me and i'm given fruit i'm given smoothies and i live a healthier life and a happier life

662
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so i'm going to stick with what god has given me christ has given me and i'll walk that path

663
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you're welcome to like it and try it or you're welcome to move on it's up to you my life is not

664
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to force you but it's for you to choose and this happens with christians who fall away it happens

665
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with christians who are new that are just learning and then don't understand what all the stuff is

666
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in the world that's thrown at them all of a sudden on tiktoks and instagram reels etc saying did you

667
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believe this well you're wrong because i say blah blah blah so i just that that's really what i wanted

668
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to finish up with it's just kind of that that now i wanted to finish on well that's blah blah blah

669
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i wanted to finish on the coffee and jamba juice analogy

670
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yeah i think it's important to realize that too that's exactly what we are like that's what it is

671
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it's this is what we are if you don't like that sorry but this is what we offer and it's not that

672
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we're trying to be mean we love everyone we don't agree with you on how to do it

673
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but we do coffee we don't do coffee we don't do coffee that's a good shirt we don't do coffee

674
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that's what i was thinking

675
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and do like a little coffee with an like a don't symbol with a coffee

676
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people are just going to think we're some like fruit nuts or something and then on the back of

677
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the t-shirt above like the back part of the collar gtp the logo and then on the back of the t-shirt

678
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the logo and the front a coffee with the the that you know the slash going through it i like it

679
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that's that's the next one uh let us know on social media if you guys like that idea

680
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and i wish to make it a t-shirt yep i would gladly make that a shirt in those social media

681
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what's what's what is it what plug it real quick uh gospel truth project so if you actually go to

682
01:11:33,000 --> 01:11:40,600
twitter and i'm going to do this correctly this time if you go to podcast podcast gtp

683
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:48,360
on twitter you will find our page uh and then if you want to if that's too hard for you do

684
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:54,520
gospel truth project dot com um get your merch there's a store button scroll down listen now

685
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:59,960
there's a whole bunch of different stuff we have um a blog that you can click on i'm sorry they're

686
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long but you can't just skip over some subjects they're really important that's fair yeah like

687
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i think the most recent blog on there as of recording this is what does the bible say about

688
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the chosen because that was an intense topic i had with a lot of different people about you have to

689
01:12:18,600 --> 01:12:25,320
be chosen by god to be saved etc etc great blog just because i wrote it i'm not saying that i'm

690
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just saying in general a lot of the discussion from that blog is interacting with other people

691
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what they said how that lines up with the bible what that looks like what does the bible say what

692
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does god say about this and i highly recommend reading it there will be more blogs coming so

693
01:12:41,320 --> 01:12:46,680
just keep in mind that there's more always coming you can follow the blog sign up on the blog etc

694
01:12:46,680 --> 01:12:54,760
it's great fantastic so with that i think we're going to end the podcast because we were actually

695
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a little we're definitely over an hour like about an hour 15 really i feel like i know one of these

696
01:13:02,520 --> 01:13:10,760
episodes we need to do a two-hour episode dude we are a two-part two-part part one oh my gosh

697
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i'm down okay i i think i have a topic i'll talk to you afterwards about what we could do for the

698
01:13:16,600 --> 01:13:23,800
part one part two a two topic because it's it's it's long but we'll get to that when we get there

699
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um i i guess i'll pray us out

700
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and then we can um yeah we'll wrap this up how you feeling

701
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you you are muted by the way

702
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okay that's fine i'm i figure that you're doing something real quick that's okay i am going to

703
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i'm going to pray us out so yes you are awesome sorry i was talking with the child and then i had

704
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to mute i get that it's fine um all right so lord thank you that we get to sit here we get to discuss

705
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you we get to read your word freely we get to honor you with studying you learning about you

706
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growing in you um i pray that what we discussed here helps people uh see you better see you in a

707
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brighter light to understand you more to to get closer to you and to continue living the life

708
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that christ has wanted for us and i just thank you for your holy spirit and the discernment it

709
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brings the peace that it brings the love that it brings the self uh confidence that it brings that

710
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we're confident in you as christ alone faith alone grace alone through you and i thank you for uh just

711
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your living word that it gives us strength in times of need and um yeah i just thank you for

712
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everything we're able to do through here and i just pray that you continue to bless this podcast and

713
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that it just grows into something bigger than what we can imagine just so that we can reach a bigger

714
01:15:05,560 --> 01:15:11,000
audience reach more people and be able to bless more people that they can see you and experience

715
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you and we thank you for that jesus name amen amen all right everybody we'll see you on the

716
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next one where dylan hosts yeah don't know what about but we'll find out next week

717
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yeah well all right see you guys on the flippity flop bye