Hey! In unison. Welcome to the season finale
slash holiday episode slash holiday who be whaty?
On 30 Dirty and Dying, your favorite millennial
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I'm Clarissa. I'm kourtney. And... This is the
end of season six. Oh my god. What a long, strange
trip it's been. And we're ending right as the
holiday season is beginning. We're going into
a proper, like, winter break. We'll be back in
the new year. New year, new us. Absolutely not.
Don't worry, guys. We're protecting the brand.
We're gonna stay sad. I am on medicine, though.
I might go back to therapy, though. I have therapy
this week. Good for you. Yeah. I think I need
to go back. In addition to my depressive episodes,
my OCD is getting bad again. Yeah, my old stuff
ain't working. I mean, I need to try a little
harder, to be honest. But if that doesn't work,
I should probably go back to there. If it wasn't
for, like, my OCD and, like, my, um, how I, like,
how sounds bother me. Yeah. I wouldn't have,
like, we wouldn't have figured out that our sub
pump was broken. See? Sometimes it fucking helps.
Because where the sub pump, like, it's technically
not a sub pump. There's a name for it, but it's
like that. Um, in our basement, the wall. that
it's like next to is underneath like the couch.
Yeah. And when I'm laying on the couch, I heard
this like vibration. Yeah. I was like, Mike,
do you hear this? And he was like, there's nothing.
I'm like, I'm telling you there's a vibration
and I don't like it. And I hate sitting here.
And then he finally like went down in the basement
for something else. And he was like, so I think
I know what you're talking about. I'm like, this
is me with smells. I'm like a goddamn bloodhound.
Oh, me too. I'm like this with smells. And I
get really obsessed if I smell something and
I can't figure out where it's coming from. I
get really fucking weird about it and like clinical
about it. And, you know, I realize it's mostly
a problem, but there's about 5 % of the time
that I really hit on some bangers and I figure
some stuff out. And, you know, you're welcome.
You're fucking welcome. Yeah, well, $700 later,
we have a new sub -hump thing. But imagine if
it wouldn't have worked. Good thing that your
supersonic OCD hearing caught it. Glad that I...
hate noises welcome to the super super duper
club super duper club yeah i love being here
well we hope you love being here um at our our
season finale we started this episode this season
rather we started this season with a bracket
this really has really been this is the bracket
season this has been the bracket i've been loving
it i said it early this would be the bracket
season and we i think have fulfilled that promise
because we have done a lot of brackets and drafts
and those style of games and We had to go out
the same way we came in. Right. I mean, but we
had to do it this time with some seasoned greetings
sprinkled on top. So why don't you tell us what
we're doing today? So we all love holiday foods.
I love to eat. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what
makes holiday meals better? Something sweet.
So we have a bracket of holiday desserts. So
yeah, we're going to do... Our holiday food bracket
or dessert bracket. Sweets, yeah. So I have a
whole side of just pies. Because that's really
like a big hitter. A big hitter. Holiday things,
holiday like dinners. People are bringing pies.
But we also on Instagram. Yeah, we did a little
question thing like where people can answer a
question that we throw up on our stories. And
we asked, what's your favorite? holiday dessert
and we you know we got a few responses so i added
those in there as well so like among some other
things among some others so like i have one side
of just pies so we'll do a pie face off yeah
and then we have the other side of just non -pie
treats yeah and then we'll have those treat face
off and then it'll be treat versus pie so we'll
see if pies really do reign supreme i don't i'm
not a big pie gal i'm not either but there are
some pies that i really like so if they're on
there and because i don't remember what's on
there i looked at it but i forgot So yeah, we've
done a lot of brackets and we're going to go
out with a bracket. Instead of go out with a
bang, we're going out with a bracket. We're going
out with a bracket. So we're going to get to
that. But since this episode kind of also doubles,
we're not going to be here for New Year's. We
don't always do like a New Year's episode. I
think last year we did one that was basically
like New Year, same us, bitch. Yeah. We played
a game. Since we're not going to be around to
do an episode on New Year's. So our back in time
is just back in time to 2024. Let's reflect,
bitch. Back in time. All right. Lots of things
happened, I feel, in my 2024. Yeah, I had a big
ass year. You go first. I don't know if I want
to. well we bought our house in 23 but toward
the end of 23 so we really got to like settle
in throughout the whole year and you know it's
been good it's been a little bad it's been very
stressful um i've learned that i enjoy owning
a home with having a partner. But I also know
that if I don't have a partner, like if we split
up or if he fucking dies, I am selling the house
immediately and getting a fucking studio apartment
again. I love my house, don't get me wrong. But
real life, adulthood, there are some stressors
that go along with it. I learned that about myself
throughout. But I also learned how to cope a
little bit more with... the things that, the
stressors that come with owning a house and having
some of these big grown up, big girl moments.
So I feel like that's been a big part of my 2024.
Started writing a book again. Did not meet my
self -imposed deadline. This is why I suck and
why I can't get anything done. Just saying. In
the midst of trying to write this book and taking
a bunch of fucking hiatuses, I have also come
up, I know the next four that I want to write
because they're all in here and I've outlined
them briefly. And there's one where there are
a lot of female main characters. Okay. And you
can be in that one. Yes. Does that sound good?
Yes. Okay. Am I a murderer? We'll see. Okay.
Anywho. But I guess focusing on my creative endeavors
has been a big part of 24. I'm trying to make
time for it and I'm still working at it. So I
don't know if resolutions are a thing for me,
but if I would make one, that would be it. Finally
fucking finish it and get on a good tempo. Yeah.
You say some stuff now. I feel like 2024 was
my travel season. You really did. You went everywhere.
So we started off strong and we went to Canada.
And that was amazing. Loved Canada and Niagara
Falls. Oh, yeah. I hear it's a banger. Yeah,
it was really nice. It was very cold because
we went in February. Canada was great. We went
to like a thousand concerts. You did? So did
I. I mean, I went to, like, three, but for me,
kind of a thousand. Yeah. I saw Green Day for
the first time, which Green Day is, like, my
favorite band ever, and I've been wanting to
see them since I was a literal fucking child,
like, 20 years, which is so sad that I'm that
old when I did the math. But I am. And I got
to see them, and it was the tour where they were
performing all of Dookie and all of American
Idiot, so that was super fun. Gonna be an American
Idiot. That was great. It was one of the best
experiences of my life. I liked them because
I saw them a couple years ago. Yeah. But for
me, it was like religious experience. Finally
did it. Can die now. You know? That's how I felt
about... 21 Pilots. 21 Pilots. I know what you're
going to say. Did you hear the new song? No.
But I thought about you when I saw that they
made a new song. Yeah. You know I already listened
to it. I know you did. I Got a New Job. Yeah.
Perfesh. I Got a New Car. Perfesh. Look at me.
Yeah. I feel like I had a big year of like...
i don't know i've spent a lot of my adult life
being like not super duper stable i don't just
mean mentally guys calm down um but just you
know a lot of changes and financially and this
and that and you know we we kind of found a good
rhythm in 2024 and it's worked out for us um
and we've been able to enjoy that a little bit
more than we ever have because it's always either
been you know riding on something that was super
unsteady or was just short -lived and we didn't
know it was gonna be short -lived yet or you
know you're just younger yeah but getting in
this stage of life i feel like i've really settled
into that and it's it's been nice yeah that part's
been nice what are some things that are going
on in in pop culture that you remember specific
i don't think we should go back and do like oh
the top 100 but just some things that have your
interest only because i'm thinking about it because
wicked just came out um but the whole ariana
grande ethan slater Oh, yes, yes. Thing that
happened, which, this is not a spoiler. Not necessarily.
There is a scene in Wicked. He's in it, right?
Yeah, he's in it. He's a Munchkinland guy. That
tracks. He plays SpongeBob, you know? If you
told me he just played, like, a guy who works
at a bank, I'd be like, bullshit. But anyways,
so, like, there's a line that he says to Glinda.
Yeah. Ariana Grande's character where he said,
I'll do anything that you want. And I literally
turned to my friend that I was watching the movie
with. I was like, yeah, like leave your wife
and newborn child. Which is crazy. But yeah,
that's something in pop culture because Wicked
just came out that I'm thinking about that I
remember. And like, what's sad is like it put
like a bad taste in my mouth for Ariana Grande.
And Ethan Slater, obviously. I didn't know who
he was before that, so. Yeah, I don't know anything
about him other than that. But it put it like
a bad taste in my mouth. But, like, what's sad,
though, is, like, she is so, like, talented.
She's extremely talented. She's extremely, like,
she's a great actress. She's hilarious. Yeah.
She, um. She's such a good singer. Such a great
singer. I mean, you say whatever you want about
a person. I don't really give a shit. Like, it's
kind of like how when things got really weird
there for a few years with Whitney Houston. Like,
nobody could deny, though, that she was still
one of the greatest singers of all time. She's
still really great. Yeah. I mean, she might be,
end up being one of the greater singers of all
time, Ariana Grande. I mean, she's. she's pretty
good. Yeah. She's very good. And she's like a
different kind of good. I'm not a huge fan of
hers. I don't, I don't feel one way or the other,
you know, but I can't deny she has a banging
voice. And what makes me sad though, cause like
her music, like the poppy music, she doesn't
enunciate well. So like, it's just, it's okay.
Like I'm not a huge, some of it's a good, but
like, I'm not like a, I wouldn't say I'm a huge,
like. are an agrande fan i don't think i ever
have been either but i still recognize her talent
yes because she she can do so like and in this
film amazing so i've heard yeah and speaking
of films twisters did you love it a date night
yay we didn't get us to go oh it's fucking great
wasn't it great what mike loved about it compared
to the original twister is that people actually
got sucked up and died yeah he was like it's
about time yeah it's about damn time Yeah, it
was a great movie. I really enjoyed it. Beyonce
came out with a country album. Which was really
good. Oh, I didn't listen to a single thing.
I listened to the whole thing. You know, because
I heard that the St. Texas song about 45 ,000
times. Yeah, because of TikTok, that's the only
song I know. But I went and listened to the whole
thing because I was curious. It's great. It was
a great album. I think she did great. Somebody
listens to a lot of what I would say is good
country music. And not just what's hitting the
charts. But like, you know, all different versions.
The alternative, if you will. I thought it held
up. I thought it held up great. Era's Tour? Yeah,
big old deal. Doesn't that start in 2023? I think
so, but it's still rolling. It's still fucking
going strong. It's just like our Billboard Top
100 disclaimer in Back in Time. It's still rolling.
And she's still going strong. She's still happening.
Speaking of music, though. Man, Sabrina Carpenter
really had a fucking moment. I know we've talked
about her before. I love her so much. Me too.
I would love to go to her concert. Yeah, I'd
love to be like one of those millennials she's
making fun of in that TikTok she made or whatever.
That was hilarious. In the club we all fam. That
was so funny. And I'm fine that I'm old in there.
I love it. She's doing her Christmas special.
Yes, on Netflix. I'm so excited to watch. We
should watch it. We should have a little night.
Yeah, we can do that. Yeah, but I love her. Yeah,
she's great. I'm a big -ass fan. You know, espresso.
I wanted to see Beetlejuice. Beetlejuice, I didn't
see it. It was okay. You said it was fine. Yeah.
But I'm glad that they did that remake, so that's
cool. They could have done it better. Not remake,
sequel. My bad. Yeah, they could have... It was
so much, but nothing happened at the same time.
Does that make sense? I feel like that's been
a lot of shit that's come out in 2024, to be
honest with you, if we're gonna get critical.
It's like they tried to fit all of these different
things happening. But, like, nothing happened
at the same time. Yeah. And, like, they had such,
like, they could have done so much. Yeah. They
could have made it so much better. Yeah. There's
a lot of things like that, like, shows and movies
and stuff that I feel like have been a little
disappointing. Mm -hmm. Like, the most recent
season of The Bear came out over the summer.
We still haven't watched it. So, here's the thing.
I'm not going to give you any spoilers. Because
we also need to watch the last season of The
Boys. Have you ever watched The Boys? No, but
I know what it is. Yeah. But, like, I won't give
any spoilers, but, like, so the first episode
is fucking... cinema. It's so good. Okay. It's
not a bad, you know, like, it's good. It's not
as good as the other ones. Yeah, it does. There
is a sort of, it feels like a little bit of an
identity crisis, which somewhat I feel is on
purpose. Because that's kind of how it is. Yeah,
but especially for this season, and maybe once
you watch it, you'll kind of know what I mean.
But, like, I know that they filmed the third
and the fourth season consecutively. Like, they
filmed it, like, as one big thing. So it does
kind of feel like it cuts off weird, and it's...
Okay. I feel like there's a potential where if
I see season four, like, it'll work. But on its
own, it had some low moments. That's all I'm
going to say. So it was a little disappointing.
Okay. Because I was like, but then also, like
I said, there's some great moments. So, um, everybody's
talking about that Menendez show. Yeah, I didn't
watch that either. I watched it. Um, I watched
it several times, actually. Interesting. I usually
watch things. More than once. I'm a big re -watcher,
especially if I have conflicting thoughts. I
get real weird and academic about it. I try to
analyze it. Okay, Mike. Yeah, me and Mike get
along in this way. I feel like it was really
great about halfway through, and then it lost
the plot a little bit. Okay. I understand some
people's criticism. I still think it was... pretty
good and important i mean clearly it's it's done
a big it's been part of a big resurgence of people
knowing about that case and abuse and and a lot
of conversations are getting restarted which
i think is great i i just think there was a you
know how sometimes in ryan murphy stuff like
american horror story seasons it'll be going
so good and then just and then like episode seven
he's like but what if and then Something crazy
comes up. It seemed a little bit like that. Yeah,
I've been, like, American Horror Story in general.
I loved American Horror Story. Yeah, me too.
And then after, well, it was the circus, not
circus. Freak show. Freak show. Downhill. I feel
like, so. It was downhill, the hotel was good.
Yeah. Downhill again. I feel like it's had ups
and downs. It's had more ups and downs. There've
been some great ones. There've been some what
the fuck ones, but in every season, I feel like
he did have that. There's always that moment
of like, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah. And
sometimes it doesn't completely ruin it. And
sometimes it does. It just depends. I'm a big
fan of his work in general, though. I watched
almost everything he makes and, but I can also
be very critical of it. You know, I don't think
just being a fan of someone means you have to
like everything they do. And I think with the
Menendez show, it's like, he really could have
taken a point of view. because it really is,
like, nobody knows what happened. Like, I mean,
we know, but we don't, blah, blah, blah. Yeah.
And, like, I think he really could have taken
a point of view, and I think he was trying to
create this larger commentary about why we can't,
because we don't know, and he did it for the
Monsters show. Yeah. So, like, I think he was
really trying to say, who were the Monsters?
Was it these boys? Was it their abusive parents?
Were they also monsters? Because how could they
grow up to be anything else if this stuff is
true? Was it society? Like, I think he was trying
to do that, and I think he succeeded to a point.
And then I just think he got a little, like,
too in the weeds of the procedural drama of it
all. Gotcha. I don't know if that makes sense.
But... I do think it was still pretty good. Like,
I still enjoy watching it a lot until you get
about halfway through and then I'm like, okay,
I don't need to see the rest of this. But it's
really been a big part of conversation and people
are listening to Milli Vanilli again, which is
fun. Speaking of crime. Yeah. Gypsy Rose. Really
out here doing it all at once. Yeah. Everywhere,
all the time. Yeah. Yeah, so she's pregnant.
Yeah, she got released. Did she get released
in 2024? Or was it 2023 maybe near the end? I
don't... I can't remember now. Time is a construct.
But this has really been her. This has been,
yeah, this has been her year. Yeah. Right. So,
married, right? Yeah, came out married. Came
out married. Was married in jail. Was married.
Divorced. Well, not quite divorced yet. Not divorced
yet. Not divorced yet. Dating someone else. Pregnant
with that someone else. Having a baby. Now they're
separated. Did you know that? I heard, I heard,
I like saw something literally this morning.
Yeah. And it was like, Chipsy Rose and Ken. separate
but i didn't look into it i just figured yeah
probably this is this is what i like people are
shocked and i don't know why because like how
she grew up yeah so sheltered because of her
mom and then straight to jail and sheltered like
she's not she she can't understand relationships
it's almost like it's very different circumstances
but it's a similar of like what I was just saying
with the Menendez thing. If their circumstances
growing up were this so abusive and so... Traumatic?
Yeah. No wonder they ain't right. You know what
I mean? No wonder they've got problems. They
were never going to be just like perfect little
angels. No. I'm not saying anything to their
guilt or innocence or whatever. I'm just saying
in general, like when you're forged in a certain
situation, oh, if it isn't the consequences of
my parents' actions. You know, it's like, no
wonder there's going to be some, a learning curve,
my God, or some pathological things. Yeah. And
like people are giving her shit. I'm just like,
she, she doesn't know. And she's instantly a
celebrity too, which does not help. Is not good.
I'm not saying take it all away or whatever.
I'm just saying shit don't help. Like she's,
she's suddenly an influencer. She needs time.
Yeah. To just be a human being outside of the
confines of trauma. And here's the, I think she's
doing that, but she's doing it. Both on purpose
and not her fault on a stage for all the world
to see. So we're going to judge it and look at
it and point. And it's like, I don't know. I
hope she figures it out. Yeah, me too. But I'm
not surprised. And I don't mean that as a dig,
like you're saying. It's like, of course, she's
trying to squeeze a whole life into a couple
of years. I mean, a year flat. Yeah. And that's
if you... look at anything with the case that's
clearly what she was trying to do in her online
life when she was still living under the mother
like she had this rich online life that was not
conducive to like real world shit because she
had no frame of reference for that but she was
trying to live out everything she thought it
could be yeah through another medium this is
just another version of that it's just now she
has a little bit more freedom if it isn't the
consequences of my own actions she figured out
was there anything else for 2024 that that you
want to not that i want to talk about me neither
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Let's get this party started. Okay, so are we
starting with pie? Let's start with pie. Let's
start with pie. All right, so. Our first face
-off. We're going with the big dog here. We're
at our Christmas or holiday, winter holiday dinner.
We're sitting down for a plate of dessert. Yeah,
yeah. Here we go. Pumpkin pie or sweet potato
pie? For me, this is obvious, but you go ahead.
I've never had sweet potato pie. I have. I didn't
know if you would have had an opinion about it.
I have. I like sweet potatoes. I like sweet potatoes.
I like sweet potato casserole an awful lot. That's
like a pie, right? Yeah, which I would like that
more than pumpkin pie, but if we're just talking
about pie. I'm gonna go pumpkin pie. Now listen,
pumpkin pie is low tier. I don't like pumpkin
pie. Of pumpkin desserts. I'm not a big fan.
I have better, there's better pumpkin desserts.
But if you get enough Cool Whip, it's fucking
fine, you know? Pumpkin pie. Okay. I, because
I've never had sweet potato pie, I'll go with
you on this. Thank you. Yeah. This is one though,
where if you had come out swinging hard for the
yams, I would have been like, that's fine. I
would not have like - Now, like a sweet potato
casserole? Like with a crumbly topping? That's
what I'm saying. All about it. It's different.
Yes. Also, I think it makes it different if we're
talking about a pumpkin pie with a graham cracker
crust and whipped cream. Then it gets a little
different. You know, I don't think I've ever
had a pumpkin pie with a graham cracker crust.
That's the way to do it. It sounds like a better
idea. It's the way to do it. Because I'm not
a big fan of pie crust. No, me neither. And if
you do it, I feel like pumpkin doesn't work with
the consistency, right? With graham cracker crust
is the way to go. Also, a pumpkin cheesecake?
Fuck me up. You know what I mean? So, pumpkin
wins. Okay. So, now we have apple pie or pecan
pie. And I'm gonna, I have just recently started
eating pecans. Because you can have nuts. Because
I can have nuts. Because of the crones. And,
um, but they're sweet. Yeah. Like, it's not just,
I'm not eating a Robcon. Like, who am I? Um,
the, like, the sugared candied pecans. Yeah.
The way God intended, obviously. Um, so that's
my current obsession. Okay. Uh, so. XOXO. But
I've never had, because I've never had a pecan
before until this year. So you didn't know. I
didn't know. I've never had that pie. I'm a bitch
for, like, an apple pie. That doesn't have a
pie topping, but has the crumblies. Ooh, yeah.
The cinnamon, brown sugar, crumbly oats sometimes.
They make that Marie Callender's, like, Dutch
apple pie. The one that's just frozen, you get
it for seven bucks. Yeah. That's the pie. That's
the fucking apple pie. I made a cinnamon roll
apple pie. Ooh, daddy. So, like, I took this.
The Pillsbury and then I like laid it out and
made it into a crust. And then I did the apple
pie filling. Hurt me. Baked it. Put the frosting
on top. Ugh. Cinnamon roll apple pie. Courtney,
will you marry me again? Yes. Okay, cool. So
for the question. Because of this. Apple pie.
Yeah, I think apple pie. Now, I will say, we
did have pecan pie a lot when I was growing up.
Peas in a can pie. I don't dislike it. It's a
little fucking much. It's like, it's just like
a big ol' layer of sugar. I love that. Yeah,
but like, gooey sugar water, like, like syrup.
It's not bad. And then it's covered in pecans.
And like, it's fine, but like, after like two
bites, I'm like, I'm gonna stroke out. This is
a lot. And it gets stuck in your teeth. I got
it stuck in my hair once. That was terrible.
So yeah, apple pie. But I used to really hate
apple pie. As I've gotten older, I've matured.
Apple has been the only pie that I've ever liked,
really. See, I never really liked it very much.
Or I like a cream pie because most cream pies
come with a graham cracker crust. So like a coconut
cream pie? Yeah. A chocolate pie? Oh yeah, those
are my favorite. Coconut cream pie I love. Meringue
pie? My favorite pie of all time, which is not
on our list, but that we also had like every...
holiday is lemon meringue pie that's my so here's
the thing yeah i did have lemon meringue pie
on here but i switched it out okay that's fine
but just just honorable mention right now honorable
mention lemon meringue pie is dope i also love
coconut cream pie banana cream pie like oh banana
cream pie so basically all the pies that i like
are not on here right i tried to do the traditional
holiday pies that you see here in murka murka
yes we didn't have a lot like we had some of
these but not as many We were little freaks over
here, my family. We did different things. Yeah.
Well, we also had lemon meringue, like Uncle
Doug and Grandma loved lemon meringue pie. Yeah.
I guess we had the same taste in pie. Yeah. Okay.
So cheesecake, which it's a pie. Yeah. Fight
me on it. For sure that. For sure. For sure.
I don't care what anyone says. And then cherry
pie. She's my cherry pie. Cool drink of water.
Make a grown man cry. She's my cherry pie. Um,
I like cherry pie. Um, but I like cheesecake
a fucking lot. You can do so much with cheesecake.
You can do so much. Mike's mom. Yeah. Will make,
it's like a white chocolate cranberry cheesecake.
Daddy. For every holiday. Mommy, I guess. For
every holiday. Um, but yeah, so I'm, cheesecake,
obviously. I love a cheesecake. Love a cheesecake.
I love all kinds of cheesecakes. Yeah. Cracker
crust is so good. I could just eat that. You
know? Yeah. Sometimes I just call it a cheese
pie because it's not a cake. I don't think I've
ever done that. Oh. And I don't think I ever
will. Yeah, Mike and I will call it a cheese
pie. That's good you found each other. Mm -hmm.
All right, hit me with the next one. We're just
blowing through these. Yeah. French silk pie.
So it's chocolate pie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or,
and this is what I switched out, mincemeat pie.
Okay. Which is meat. Yeah, so I've heard. I've
had. I don't think I've ever had either of those,
to be honest with you. You've never had a french
fry? Maybe I have had that one, but I don't think
so. That was never... You've never had chocolate
pie? Not that I can recall. I've certainly never
had fucking mincemeat pie. When I was Googling,
I was like, holiday pies. Isn't that a British
thing? Isn't that something that the Brits eat?
It might be. I don't know, guys. Your food choices
seem odd. But when I was talking about today
with Aunt Mary Jo... She was like, mincemeat
pie. Okay, well, shout out Aunt Mary Jo, I guess,
but I question your decision here. I'm gonna
have to go with the French one. Yeah. Sacre bleu,
because... I like a cream pie. Chocolate pie.
I like chocolate. So now let's go back up. Yep,
we gotta bang them out. Pumpkin or apple. And
I know what I'm picking here. I feel like you're
gonna pick apple. I'm gonna pick apple because
I don't like pumpkin pie. I feel like I'm gonna
agree with you, which is crazy. If you would
have told... 15 year old clarissa that she would
pick apple pie she would have been like that's
whack i don't know whatever we said but i like
apple pie now loser loser double loser as if
whatever get the picture uh l7 But no, I always
hated apple pie, but now as I'm an adult, I like
it. So. Yeah. Things change, guys. Things change.
And honestly, pumpkin pie sucks. So suck it.
Just plain ass pumpkin pie is not, is not the
best bitch. Like, I like pumpkin flavored things.
Don't get me wrong. Yeah. But I don't like just,
all you're doing is you're mixing like pumpkin
pie filling, which is just pureed pumpkin. Never
enough spice. With like egg and cinnamon and
calling it a day. And that's not great. Okay.
Cheese pie. Don't do that. I'm not your husband,
and I can't support this. But you're my wife.
I don't support this. This is why you had to
find a husband, because I can't do everything
for you. Call it a cheesecake. Okay, cheesecake
or French silk pie? Obviously cheesecake. Yeah,
cheesecake. This is it. This is it. The final
pie down. Apple or cheesecake? Okay. And I'm
gonna go and say cheesecake, because you can
make an apple pie cheesecake. You absolutely
can. Cheesecake. Cheesecake. Here's the thing.
I like apple pie now, but I only will, like,
go banana sandwich for a few kinds of apple pie.
It's gotta have the crumblies. It's gotta be
a certain kind. If you just give me a regular
old lattice apple pie, probably not the first
thing I'm picking off the dessert table. Cheesecake
is probably the first thing I'm picking no matter
what. Okay? Any kind of cheesecake I will try
to eat. So... Cheesecake. Cheesecake. It's crazy,
you know? The thing that might not even be a
pie. wins the pie round. It is a pie! I mean,
I agree with you, but people are gonna get pissed,
but they get pissed when we do this all the time.
Candy corn gate. Candy corn cheesecake? Should
we try it? Uh, yeah. Absolutely we will. Let's
do it. Stay tuned, next season. Okay, so now
we're going treats. Non -pie treats. A whittle
tweet. A whittle tweet. Alright, starting off
strong. Yeah. Gingerbread cookies. Okay. Rice
crispy treats. Okay. Now, see, I never really
had Rice Krispie Treats for the holidays. Yeah,
neither have I. That was not my thing, but it
was one of our listeners' things, so I respect
your life. I don't like a crunchy gingerbread
cookie. I like the soft gingerbread cookies.
Yeah, the softies I love. Or, like, gingerbread...
Gingerbread? Oh, yeah. Gingerbread -flavored
stuff I like. It's similar to the pumpkin pie
thing. I had the new gingerbread fizz from Outback.
How was it? So good. Ugh, we should go to Outback.
Okay. So we can get it again. Okay. With me.
I got the little koala that goes on the straw.
Ah, it's in my car. I love it. Yes. But yeah,
so I love gingerbread flavor. Yeah. But if we're
just talking about gingerbread cookies, if they're
soft, absolutely. If they're crunchy, or if they're
the shit you build those houses out of that will
tear families apart till the end of time. I,
like, I love a Rice Krispie treat. Yeah. But
here's the thing. This might be a controversial
opinion here, but Mike and I agree on it. Rice
Krispie treats pre -made from Kellogg's or whatever.
Is better than homemade. Well, okay, so our listener,
I do remember, put in their little thing. Homemade.
Then, if it's homemade Rice Krispie Treats, I'm
going with gingerbread cookies. I think I'll
go with you. But, like, if you're just making,
like, a plain Rice Krispie Treat, the pre -made
with all the artificial flavors and things that
aren't good for you, so much better than, like,
homemade. Alright. And that's my humble opinion.
So we're gonna go with the classic gingerbread
then instead. I just like gingerbread too. Like,
I do like a gingerbread cookie. I can get behind
it. It's also fun to decorate a gingerbread cookie
because who knows? It could be anything. It could
even be a boat, like you say all the time. I
almost just said it when you said it could be
anything. I was like, could even be a boat? I
took it from you. Thank you. I remember one time
we made a gingerbread instead of a house because
we made one like every year. That was one of
our little, like just me and my mom. We did a
nativity scene once. Nice. And my Meemaw helped
us because it was impossible to put together.
And she was like, Jesus Christ. Yeah, he's right
there. But I'm going to say this too before we
go on. Yeah. My sister makes molasses cookies
better than gingerbread cookies. Yeah, I've had
those. They're pretty good. Yeah. I didn't put
them on here because, again, I was trying to
do, like... For everybody. For everyone. Yeah.
But my sister, specifically, her molasses cookies
are the best. They sound good. Mm -hmm. All right.
Gingerbread for the win. Let's keep rolling.
All right. Peppermint bark. Ooh. Or bread pudding.
Fuck your bread pudding. Peppermint bark me all
the way, Daddy. I love peppermint. I love chocolate.
I love a peppermint mocha. I don't care that
I can get it all year round. Don't even say it.
It's a Christmas delight. And, oh, my God. You
know, I eat my weight every year in those Hershey
Kisses, the candy cane ones. Oh, those are good.
Oh, my God. I love them. You'll still find little
scraps if you look hard enough. So, yeah, peppermint
bark all the way, unless you disagree. No, I
don't disagree. I don't mind some bread puddings.
That's fine. But I really have, like, this real
negative thought of bread pudding. Oh. Because
when I watch Chopped. Okay. They all, it was
a cop -out. Okay. Like, during, for the dessert
course, they're like, I'm just gonna throw this
all in a bread pudding. It's a cop -out. You're
not doing anything with the ingredients. You
know what? And I hated it every single time.
You should really, every year, Justin and I binge
watch Holiday Baking Championship, and we should,
you should join us. Oh, yeah. Because it seems
like that's what you do, too. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
I mean, bread pudding's fine. Because, like,
I could do it? Yeah. It's like, oh, you're going
to flambe that? Really? I can't even spell flambe,
but okay. I can't even boil water right all the
time. So for like Mike's side of the family,
like his dad and stepmom and all of them, we
do like family games for Christmas. And this
year we're doing chopped. So like we're going
to like cook things and like have secret ingredients
and stuff. Oh my God. Don't use, make sure you
really pile on the zest because if you can't
taste it, was it even there? Because last year
they did. mixed drinks. Oh. And we judged the
mixed drinks of, like, who won. And, like, because
what we would do is each round, like, the judges
would just take out random ingredients and they
would have to, like, figure out what to make
with those ingredients. This honestly sounds
exhausting. I'm so glad I'm not in your family.
But you are in my family. You're my wife. Yeah,
but I'm not going to that. No, that's fine. Pumpkin
roll or fudge? Oh, my God. But pumpkin rolls.
Pumpkin rolls are amazing. They're so good. They're
everything. But you can do so many things with
fudge. Peanut butter fudge, chocolate fudge.
I don't know. We had a lot of fudge when I was
growing up. I have to fight for a pumpkin roll
here. Pumpkin is a seasonal treat. It is a seasonal
treat. And it should have a place. And you know
what? Because we didn't choose pumpkin pie. Yes.
I will say we can go pumpkin roll. I pumpkin
because it's seasonal and it should be allowed
to have a seasonal moment. Because it really
is a shining star of the season. Yeah. Like we
credit where it's due. Next. Fruitcake. I hear
it's bad. I've never had it. Croquembouche. Just,
um. It's like cream puffs. Cream puffs that are
stacked and then like, like a syrupy type of.
Yeah. Something on top. Yeah. Which is, I feel,
um, is more of like a rich person thing. Right?
Yeah. I didn't know what a croquembouche was
until I watched Holiday Baking Championship as
a grown ass adult. So, um. But fruitcake has
this negative connotation, but I feel like I've
had a fruitcake and I'm like, this isn't bad.
I don't think I've ever had a fruitcake. I have
had like an Italian fruitcake. Okay. It's a little
bit, it's dry. I don't like it very much. But
I hear that the problem with regular ass fruitcake
is it's too wet. So I don't know. Oh, I love
wet things. Okay. I'm a saucy gal. If it's not
wet, I'm not having a good time. I love cream
puffs. They're good. And I had a lot of that
growing up. My mom, her favorite thing is cream
horns. Oh, yeah. I love a cream horn. I feel
like it's got to be a similar taste, right? And
then grandma would always, I think from Costco.
She would get, like, the big tubs of cream puffs,
but she would put them in the freezer. Ooh. And
then I just, like, with the frozen icing inside.
Yeah. Or, like, the frozen middle. I bet it would
be good. It was really good. And sometimes she
would get, like, eclairs. Yeah. We had those
a lot, too. I feel like I'm good to go. I'm good
with either. Me, too. Because, like, I don't.
The one time I've had fruitcake. I didn't mind
it because I do like wet things, but I also love
things that are cream filled. I do like wet things.
I like wet things and cream filled things. I'll
leave it to you, Courtney. You're the master
of ceremonies here. You pick one. I'll just roll
with you. I'm just going to, just because people
hate it, I'm going to choose fruitcake. Okay.
Hate us because you hate us. I love wet things.
All right, let's get back up. All right. Gingerbread
cookies versus peppermint bark. And we're going
to disagree on this one. I'm going to say peppermint
bark. I'm going to say gingerbread cookies. What
the fuck is wrong with you, though? But we just
said that some gingerbread is trash. I did not
agree with you. I like hard gingerbread and I
like soft gingerbread. So you want to break your
teeth on a gingerbread cookie? I don't break
my teeth. It's fine. Yet. You're 30 now. It's
coming. Because I like cookies. I do like hard
cookies and I like soft cookies. I prefer soft
cookies. But I don't mind a hard gingerbread
cookie. Or like a ginger snap. Love those. I
hate the way you said that. I hate the way you
said that. Goddamn cartoons. Dude, peppermint
bark is so good. Peppermint and chocolate is
a classic combination. It's a seasonal combination.
And I understand gingerbread is a seasonal flavor.
But this is a seasonal combination. Two over
one math. Ginger bread. Fuck off. Nuh -uh. That's
what people call it. That's not real. What do
you mean? Honestly, I don't even know. We're
gonna have to do rock, paper, scissors. Okay.
Alright, gingerbread wins, I guess. Alright,
pumpkin roll or fruitcake? Pumpkin roll. Come
on, what the fuck? We can't be contrarians for
the whole thing. Gingerbread? Pumpkin roll. For
me, it's pumpkin roll. But I would be okay if
you went gingerbread because I think they're
probably equal. I like them both. Yeah. What
I really like about a pumpkin roll is the cream
cheese frosting. Yes, bitch. But there's so many
ways that you can do gingerbread. Yeah, but I
don't know. It's like you can make a loaf. You
can make a cookie. You have the flavoring. You
can make a gingerbread latte. You could make
a pumpkin latte. Yeah, but not a pumpkin roll
latte. Okay, but a pumpkin roll is, you could
put cream cheese in your pumpkin latte if you
really wanted. I wouldn't recommend that. I'm
gonna try it. I'm fine with either. Like, I like
them both pretty equally, to be honest with you.
I think I prefer a pumpkin roll, but I don't
dislike a gingerbread. And if we're talking about
seasonal value... I feel like seasonal value
with... The Christmas holiday season? Yeah. Gingerbread.
Yeah. If it's Thanksgiving holiday season, pumpkin
roll. So, but we didn't specify. We didn't specify
this is just holiday. We're more likely in my
house to have something pumpkin -y. I will tell
you that. So, I like them both. You're going
to have to be the master of ceremonies again.
This is hard. Just like some gingerbread cookies.
I feel like gingerbread cookies. are more places
and are more known for the holiday rather than
just a pumpkin roll you know they're sort of
like justin timberlake let me explain so like
christmas cookies are like insane you got a sugar
cookie you got maybe a molasses cookie you've
got a gingerbread cookie you've got a chocolate
chip cookie you've got your whatever's And then
there's always one more recognizable, right?
So if I see a tray of cookies lined out, maybe
I don't know it's Christmas cookies, but if I
see a gingerbread cookie, I know it's saying
Christmas cookies. Now, if there are cookies
with sprinkles and the whole thing and the color
schemes, sure. But in general, that's the standout
guy that I'm like, I make the mental connection.
To the holiday. Yeah, just so, you know, the
tray of Christmas cookies is the boy band. And
then the gingerbread cookie is the one that has
the separate album and has a great solo career.
You're welcome, Justin Timberlake. But only if
you're Justin Timberlake. If you're not, keep
scrolling. I hate when people do that because
you know they don't want you to scroll. And I'm
going to keep watching the whole thing anyways.
No, I'm not Brittany from your office, but I'm
going to watch the video. Anyways. All right.
So this is head to head. This is the final. This
is the final countdown. La la la. La la la la.
Oh, I want ho -ho. This is what happens when
you improv. It's a bitch. I got tickets to an
improv thing next year. God, I'm so excited.
Oh, it's people that I watch. Oh, I'm excited
about it. Just random. I don't think I would
enjoy. No, probably not. Kids in college. It's
like going to see a college acapella group after
watching Pitch Perfect one time. Well, they're
not all that good. Anyways. Okay. So cheesecake.
Gingerbread cookies. Ooh, daddy. Gingerbread
cheesecake. Cheesecake makes it better. Okay,
so like I've said with the other desserts, right?
I don't like really pumpkin pie that much, but
a pumpkin cheesecake? Fuck me up. A gingerbread
cheesecake. A peppermint chocolate cheesecake.
All of these things can be made into a cheesecake.
And are better as a cheesecake. As a cheesecake.
It's cheesecake. It's cheesecake. It can be a
fruitcake cheesecake, and it's gonna be delicious.
Yes. And moist. Very. Very. Cork and bush? I
don't know about that. Fucking maybe. I don't
know. Can you fill a cheesecake with cream filling?
You know what you can do? You can do a regular
ass cheesecake and just put a bunch of those
cream puffs on top of it. Good. Cork and bush
cheesecake. Look what I did there. Yep. You can
just make a cheesecake out of everything. On
this list. I've seen the Rice Krispie Treat base.
Yeah. Absolutely. It's cheesecake. Cheesecake
wins for the versatility alone. Start making
cheesecake, guys. Start making cheesecake. I'm
going to make one for my holidays coming up.
Yeah. You should, too, if, you know, you can
eat it and you don't kill yourself. Yeah, because
there are some people that, like, don't like
cream cheese, which is crazy. Yeah, you're nuts.
I just meant if you had, like, an allergy. Oh.
You know. But there's people that, like, don't
like cream cheese. And I'm like, the only reason
I eat a bagel is for cream cheese. But, yeah,
I love cream cheese, you know? And I love cheesecake
and I love graham crackers. It's all, what's
not to love? There's absolutely nothing that's
a part of cheesecake that you can't love. No.
Yeah. But also because there's like baked cheesecakes.
Yeah. Which is probably why it's called cheesecake.
But then there's like the no bake, which is what
I do. I prefer the no bake. Me too. We had them
a lot when I was growing up. I think I mentioned
on a somewhat recent episode, they've sold those
jello cheesecake. Like just the tub of the cream
cheese, like cheesecake filling. It's in my fridge
right now. Fridge. My fridge. I almost said freezer,
but then I realized I was wrong. It's in my fridge
right now. Because that's how I make the no -bake
ones for Justin, because we get the gluten -free
graham cracker crust already in the pan. Because,
like, I ain't doing a bunch of shit. I just take
the Philadelphia no -bake cheesecake tub, put
it in there. He can eat it. And then I made for
the last Christmas, I think, and then for his
birthday, because he requested it, like a caramel
chocolate one. And he fucking loved it, because
that's his favorite combination of all time.
This year I'm doing a strawberry cheesecake for
him. Strawberry syrup cheesecake. It's easy.
Everybody can do it. If I can do it, everybody
can do it. You should eat cheesecake. Everybody's
so creative. Yeah, but that's what grandma used
to do. We would buy the tub. Yeah. She would
get the mini graham cracker crust that came in
the pack of four. She would get the mini one
out, do like a couple dollops of the filling,
and just like go at it. Delish. I'm like, perfect.
We would get a lot for our family holidays. I
would just do a spoonful of the cream cheese.
Absolutely. When I make them, come on, not all
of it makes it into the crust. For our family
holidays, though, a lot, we would do those cheesecake
samplers that you get from just like the grocery
store deli. Those are perfect. Something for
everybody? Mm -hmm. Delicious. We would get those
a lot. I think, again, last Christmas, I think
that's what, because I brought, you know, we
had gluten -free stuff that Justin can eat, and
then we also have other stuff. Mm -hmm. And I
think my other stuff was one of those cheesecake
samplers. I got, recently, from Aldi. Okay. It
was a caramel apple cheesecake. Oh. So, a graham
cracker crust, obviously. So, like, it was the
cheesecake up until, like, the center, and it
was, like, just. apple filling oh man and caramel
and like so like the when your first few bites
were like apple and then you got the cheesecake
and it was just so good the blend the blend well
hey this isn't sponsored by cheesecake factory
but i guess it fucking could be or philadelphia
cream cheese or really anybody that contributes
to cheesecake toll house because they're ram
crackers i don't know anything any fucking thing
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