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Hello! Hey, what's up? I'm Clarissa. I'm Courtney.

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This is 30 Dirty and Dying, your favorite millennial

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podcast. Happy Halloween! It's Halloween! Welcome

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to our Halloween episode. All October long we've

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been doing Halloween and spooky season themed

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episodes, but this bad boy actually is airing

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on... The E, the, the hollow. You're really killing

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it today. I think I was trying to say like all

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hollows E. Well, I think, I think you're nervous

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because we have a special guest in the room and

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you guys are going to get to be introduced to

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him in just a little bit. But what are we doing

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today? We're going to talk about the movie Trick

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or Treat. We're reliving Trick or Treat. Trick

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or Treat. Yep. It's a Halloween movie for a Halloween

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episode. It came out in the 2000s. So it's everything

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you love us for. Nostalgia, spooks. Apparently,

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millennial chaos that Courtney is bringing single

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-handedly today. All right. All right. Well,

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should we... I don't want to take... Get this

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Halloween party started? Yes, let's start the

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Halloween party. We should have dressed up. I

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mean, I'm dressed up as sad. No one can see us.

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Why the fuck would we dress up? For us. I mean,

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I've got some masks. Oh. No, not sex ones. I

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don't do that. Happy Halloween. And we have a

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movie to get to, so why don't we get to back

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in time? So let's get this party started. Back

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in time. All right. We're in 2008. Not 2009 and

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not 2007. Absolutely not. We're in 2008. Trick

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or Treat came out in 2007. A lot of times we

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try to do the year of whatever we're living,

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but we've already done 2007 this year. And I

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looked it up. I did a little research because

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I never watched this movie until this. So this

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is not reliving for me. It's just living. just

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white knuckling through and i guess it didn't

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have like a super wide release like it was it

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came out in 2007 but not the way regular movies

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do yeah i don't think it was in the movie theater

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i think it's just like street what what i looked

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up it's you know what it's on the wikipedia page

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hang on i'll just tell you why i came up with

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2000 The first public screening took place at

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this film festival in 2007, and then subsequent

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screenings included, and then most of them were

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at these festivals and things in 2008. But there

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weren't, it wasn't like a large theatrical release,

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it was just like certain screenings, and most

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of them took place in 2008. A few of them in

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2009, and then direct -to -DVD, so it didn't

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even get to your DVD player until 2009. Maybe

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that's why I thought it was 2009. Maybe. Maybe.

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Maybe. Anyways, we're talking about 2008. Yes.

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So, why don't you tell us about it, Courtney?

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Go ahead. Um, I lost my virginity. Wow. Wow.

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Why don't you tell us about it in excruciating

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detail? I don't think I want to. I don't mean,

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like, fluid detail. Ew! Yeah, exactly. That's

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not what I was talking about. Okay, well, then

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what were you talking about? I don't know. I

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was just, in general, talking about it. See,

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the thing is, though, I don't remember how I

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felt about it. You don't? No. Though that's,

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I mean, I'm surprised, though. You've told me

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about it before. Yeah. But you don't remember

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your feels? I don't remember my feels. Do you

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remember what prompted it? Like, was it spontaneous?

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Was it planned out? It was not planned out. Well,

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sometimes, I don't want to say kids like kids,

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but, like, young folks will plan out something

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like that because they think it's a, you know,

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important occasion. Well, okay. Especially if

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they've been raised religious. Well, so, I mean,

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I kind of was. But I... We had a conversation

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that I wanted to make sure that I loved the person.

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So we were together at that point for like a

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month. Okay. And we were like making out and

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things were happening. Love was growing. And

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I was, I, we just looked at each other and we're

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like, I love you. And I'm like, all right, let's

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go. It's just words, ladies and gentlemen. Was

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it, was it nice? I don't remember. Oh, you said

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you didn't remember feelings. I don't, physical,

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sure. But I'm just saying, was it everything

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you hoped for? Don't remember. So probably not

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then. I'll say just for memory's sake, it was

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wonderful. So, mid. Well, I mean, first time's

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never great, right? Was it the guy's first time

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too? Yeah. Anywho, you want to know something

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that happened in 2008 that I wanted to talk about?

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Yes, please. Did you ever watch The Soup? I know

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I've asked you this before and I forget every

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time. Okay. So there was a clip on The Soup,

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I was a big fan, called Spaghetti Cat. Do you

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know what this is? No. Because it also made rounds

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on, like, the internet and other TV shows, so

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I didn't know if maybe you... No. Okay, so apparently

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on this morning show, they were talking about

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drunk driving, and they had some people there

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who, I guess, drank and drove and lived to tell

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the tale. And for some reason, it just cut to

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a picture of a cat eating spaghetti. And then

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they did not speak about it. The host didn't.

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Nobody said anything about it. Except for the

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soup. And it was a really famous soup moment.

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It kind of, like I said, made the rounds. And

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I remember it. And that happened in 2008. Wow.

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Yeah. Spaghetti Cat was born. They did talk about

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it like a week later after the soup brought it

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up. So there's that. There's that. Anything else,

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Courtney? Yeah, 2008 was when I started working

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at the movie theater. Okay, so movies. Let's

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talk about some horror movies that came out.

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Twilight. Disturbing and terrible. The Strangers

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came out in 2008. Okay. You know, I just watched

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that the other day. I never watched it all the

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way through. It sucks. Yeah, I don't know if

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I've watched it all the way through. It's not

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good. People hype it up a lot, and it sucks.

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Cloverfield. I remember that. Yep. The Happening.

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Okay. Oh, Saw V. There's too many of those. I

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like the Saw movies. I really don't. Although,

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do you remember this? This could not have been

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2008. This must have been like years before this.

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But do you remember for one of the Saw movies,

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they did this marketing campaign that was like

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on regular TV, like during commercials, they

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would just throw Jigsaw's face on there for a

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split second. And then it would just go back

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to whatever commercials were happening. No. And

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then they didn't address it. Just like Spaghetti

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Cat. Yes. Honestly, yes. Until like whatever

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show or movie you were watching was over. And

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then they would do a full. like, preview or whatever

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Saw movie it was. Do you remember this? No. I

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remember it. It was fucking horrifying. You'd

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just be sitting there watching, like, I don't

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know, My Girl or some shit, and then, like, Jigsaw's

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face, gone. You're like, that can't be real.

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I didn't see that. And then it keeps happening

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for two hours. I need to Google that. I want

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to Google that. I want to look at YouTube. I

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want to see if they have it. See, and I just

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remember it happening. So, like, I don't know.

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But, well, I know that Don't Trust Me came out.

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I don't even have to look that one up. So we'll

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do a billboard. Top 100 hits. Lollipop. Lil Wayne.

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You probably loved that song. I did. I did. Why

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do you say it like that though? Because you were

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a big fan of whatever was on the top 100. I was.

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At all times. Which is fine. Love in this club.

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Pocket full of sunshine. I got a pocket full

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of sunshine. I kissed a girl. I kissed a girl

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and I liked it. Taste of her cherry chapstick.

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Okay, well, those are some hits, and now I guess

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we should throw it to our special guest for the

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weather. It's a little sunny outside today. But

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it wasn't in 2008. Hi, I'm Mike. I know it's

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been a while. It's been a while. It has. I only

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come on for spooky stuff, apparently. No, you

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came on for a Valentine's Day episode also. Yeah,

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I love. I think that might have been... No. The

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last time he was on was for music trivia, millennial

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music trivia, which was like probably over a

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year ago at this point. It's been a minute. Yep.

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I've been tasked with giving you the tornadoes

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from that year. Twist us up. You call him daddy.

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I feel weird. On May 25th in Parkersburg, New

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Haightford, Iowa, there was an E5. EF. F5. Wow,

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you're really killing this weather report, dude.

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Sorry. 400 homes were damaged. That's spookier.

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21 commercial buildings, including City Hall.

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City Hall? They're going to take City Hall. So

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I'm really glad you made me do that. How many

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tornadoes happened in the year? Did you already

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say that? Was I not paying attention? No, it

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was about 1 ,600 in the United States. 1 ,600

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in the U .S.? That's crazy. Hundreds. Hundreds.

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Thank you for twisting me up, Daddy. All right,

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well, now we're going to twist out into the show

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for today. Listen to this brief message, and

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All right, so we're talking about Trick or Treat.

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Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. And the reason

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is, it's Mike's favorite Halloween movie. Is

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that true, Mike? Because she says that a lot,

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and that was her reasoning, but is it really?

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Well, it probably is my favorite Halloween movie.

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Okay, fair. There's not a lot of actual Halloween

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movies. Actually, you know what? Yeah. Yeah,

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and then, like, Hocus Pocus. It's Halloween.

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Halloween Town. Yeah, that's a good one. But

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there's not a lot. Yeah, most of them are just

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haunted shit. Yeah, it's up there. I believe

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a cult classic is appropriate for this. That's

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what it said on Wikipedia. So that's gotta be

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true. Well, so I never watched it, but so I guess

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I'm living, not reliving, but you guys are reliving.

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So I watched it last night. I watched it last

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week after you told me to watch it literally

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the same day. Were you a fan? I'll get into it.

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No, but I didn't hate it. I just, I thought I

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was going to hate it until like the last like

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30 minutes. So then I was okay with it. Interesting.

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We'll get into it. We will. But before we do,

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let's talk a little bit about what it is. And

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I'm going to leave it to you two because you're

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the experts. So Trick or Treat is like an anthology

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of four short stories about the spirit of Halloween

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and maybe some rules around it. All of the stories

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kind of go together. They're like kind of...

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tiptoe across each other but they don't really

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relate yeah they intersect yeah intersect of

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course and i intersected our hands in front of

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her husband whoa i mean we we were married first

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yeah we were no you're all um no so i i had never

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watched it but i think i think my main beef with

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it to start out was, I don't think, I don't think

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anthology is the right word. It's not you guys.

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It's like, it was on there too. Cause at first

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I was like, Courtney, not knowing what anthology

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is. And I looked it up and I was like, no, that's

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what they called it. Yeah. Like when I think

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of an anthology, I think of something that doesn't

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have to connect like separate stories. I don't

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think of like, they don't have to connect. Yeah.

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But I just, I don't, I don't know. I guess I

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just don't think of anything that does. I just

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think of like standalone things. And to me, it

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wasn't really that. I think it's kind of in the

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middle, right? Yeah, I can see that. It's not

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like a true anthology. That's very true. But

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I think all of the stories in the movie could

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be separate. Yeah. I mean, I could see them being

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separate, but I guess I just... I think they

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chose to pull it all together to seem like a

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cohesive movie. Which I liked the cohesion factor.

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That's what I mean about like... I ended up liking

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it at the end because it all came together. But

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if they were just standalones and they didn't

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do that coming together thing, I think I would

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have hated it. So then can I like it as an anthology?

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I don't know. I like it. You like it? There are

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some parts that I don't like. So are we starting

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with shitting on it? Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Are

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you surprised? Look at your face. No. What scenes

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do you think Courtney doesn't like and that Courtney

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can confirm or deny? Any of the sexual ones.

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What? Why? She reads porn exclusively. Now? I

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re -listened to an episode from a long time ago,

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and I literally have you saying, and I screen

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-capped it because I needed it, you saying, like,

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I don't want to read smut. I think smut is the

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worst. You need to send that to me. I will. I

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saved it. So you don't think the sexual scenes

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would be her bag? Now? These ones are, they're

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not, they're pretty mild. I can't even think

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of any. Well, the first scene, there's like a

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small porn section. Oh, is there? I don't even

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remember that. The guy fell asleep and then when

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he woke up, porn was on. Yeah. No, I remember

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now on the TV. Yeah. I was thinking like between

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the characters. Oh, not really. I mean, not really,

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right? Nothing. Super explicit. So that's, I

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disagree. Okay, so that's not one of them. Do

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you have any others that you think she would

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hate? I literally verbalized it last night. No,

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I don't remember. Oh, wow. He really cares. When

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the kid's throwing up. Oh, yeah. That was excessive.

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It kind of was. The gurgling sounds. I hate it.

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No, actually, when we were watching it, I do

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remember Justin and I, like, we were watching

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it. Yeah. And then... It just kept going. Yeah,

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and one of us, I don't remember which one, said,

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like, well, this has been happening for a while.

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And it does. It's aggressive. Yeah, it's too

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much. It's gross. It's a little gross. The sounds

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don't help. No. And also, like, what the fuck

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was he eating? Well, it was a chocolate bar.

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Yeah, but it looked... Right, which is, I think,

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my problem with that scene because it looks like

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chocolate. It looks like chocolate milk. But

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then when the killer is, like, pulling him away,

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he's, like, covered in blood. Yeah. So it's not,

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like, quite, like, it seemed weird. Yeah. Yeah.

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No. Okay. So I don't like that part. Nice sound

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effect. That would have been better. Done. So

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that's one scene though. Yeah. It's like one

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25 second clip. Yeah. I hated it. Which is really

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long though. It was so long. It was way too long.

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It was like half the movie of throw up. I do

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think it was like, I turned it on and I was watching

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it and Justin wasn't really like dedicated to

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sitting down and watching it with me. So he was

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like, I don't know, just fooling around. And

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then he sat down and we said that. And then.

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He was just like, what the fuck? Why are we watching

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this? And I was like, it's research for the podcast.

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It's Mike's favorite movie. And then he was like,

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this is Mike's favorite movie? That's not my

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favorite. I know. Favorite Halloween. Halloween

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movie. I know. I just said it. But like, he was

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judging you hard during that vomiting scene.

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And I am one person to accept that sometimes

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what is my favorite isn't like overly all great.

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It's not like an overly all great movie. Okay.

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What? And I don't give you shit about that. But

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you give me shit about all my favorite movies,

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even though they're not overall great, but they're

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great to me. And you say they're horrible movies

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and give me shit about it. They really are. And

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so is this. Yes, but I... Well... I wouldn't

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say it's a horrible movie. I thought it was going

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to be. I was ready to be on your team. It's middle.

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Oh, I don't mind it. Would you rather watch this

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or Boss Baby? This. Thank you. 100%. I've never

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even seen Boss Baby. I would rather watch this.

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Because again, that's a wild thing to say that

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her favorite movie is Boss Baby. My favorite

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movie is not Boss Baby. What is it now? Because

00:16:06.700 --> 00:16:08.659
you change it a lot. It's in my top favorite

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movies, yes. Give me your top three right now.

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Top three? Favorite movies ever. And we'll see

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what Mike thinks about them. I like that this

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is becoming so much less about trick -or -treat

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and more about your marriage. I like how you

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say trick -or -treat. Well, that's how it's spelled.

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I don't know. Twister? Twister's good. It's not

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great. It's fine, though. It's fine. Jim Carrey's

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The Grinch? Okay. That's fine. I mean, it's fine

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for a Christmas movie. It's okay. We can really

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argue about Twister, but that's not what this

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is about. If you want to have me on later. Look,

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I can tell you right now that it's not realistic

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at all and it's ridiculous. But it's a fine,

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okay movie to watch. Right. I think I would have

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been okay with Twister if it was like that. Okay.

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But they do both. Like, it's like, oh, this big

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tornado. It's so powerful. It's the most powerful

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tornado we've ever seen. Not as powerful as my

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belt, though. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I hate

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that part, too. It's stupid. It's like what I'm

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saying is, like, it's not, like, it's like, oh,

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we gotta save the characters. I mean, they killed

00:17:06.259 --> 00:17:09.539
the characters in the new one. They did? Uh,

00:17:09.599 --> 00:17:11.779
yeah. I didn't watch it yet. I told you we didn't

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get to know. I mean, honestly, I will say it

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is kind of a shitty disaster movie if no one

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dies. Because people die in disasters. Right,

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I don't think anybody on screen in the original

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would die. Just that bad guy. Yeah. But everybody

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won it. I was thrilled when he died. Well, yeah,

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what the fuck. I mean, he was a bad guy. Anyways,

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trick or treat. Yeah, trick or treat. Pretty

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much the throw up was like the worst part. Awful.

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Didn't need to happen. So then what do you like

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about it, Courtney? I like Sam. Sam's a little

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pumpkin head bitch, right? Pumpkin head bitch?

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I use bitch as a term of endearment and you know

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it. I call you bitch all the time because I love

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you. Love you, bitch. Love you, bitch. Love you,

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bitch. Which again goes back to being called

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classic because now when you walk into like Spirit

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Halloween, he's everywhere. Yeah. And now I know

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who he is. See, because I've seen him before,

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but I just never really knew who it was. I assumed

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it was a movie I hadn't seen or it was just some

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Halloween -ish character that, you know, like

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generic. Sam. Yeah, I liked him though. I will

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say the last scene where it's like just him versus

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old guy, I could have watched the whole movie

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that was just that kind of shit. Just him attacking

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people. That was great. That's what made me like

00:18:23.690 --> 00:18:27.029
the movie was him because it was funny, but it

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was also a little bit, it's just scary enough,

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like not scary, but you like the jump scare thing

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because when he's just like right there and it

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was just, it was just good. I could have watched

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the whole movie of just that. I think what I

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like the most about that scene is the change

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of his size when he's fighting. Oh, yeah. Because

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he's like this little kid, right? Yeah. But for

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the fighting scene, it's literally like an adult

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acting as Sam. And he's just like this big guy

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on top of the old guy. And then all of a sudden

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he's small again. And I think that's one of my

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favorite parts. The power of Halloween. The power

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of Halloween. Can make you grow ten sizes. Well,

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I think that's what he embodies, right? Is the

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spirit of Halloween. That's what I thought. He

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just wants people to follow the rules of Halloween.

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That's the whole point of the movie. Yeah. And

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if you don't, he kills you. Actually, I have

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one more thing that pisses me off about that

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movie. Go ahead. But not about the movie itself.

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Okay. But that bitch in the very beginning who's

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saying, let's take the decorations down now.

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Yeah, what the fuck? Dumb. It's the middle of

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the night. One. Just leave it. Get it in the

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morning. I wouldn't do it either. No. She also

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mentions that they were both drunk. Like, why

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are you going to do that when you're drunk? Like,

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at that point, she's the one that I'm like, I'm

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glad you died. Yeah. I'm glad you died. You deserve

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this. You know, sucks to suck. But, like, who

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the fuck? And that many decorations. I could

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see if you just had, like, I don't know, like,

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someone over your front door or a wreath, and

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you're like, fuck it, let's take this inside.

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There's too much decorations. They had a fucking

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interactive display. And she's like, let me dissemble

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this in the dead of night on Halloween while

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I'm fucked up. Absolutely not. That was so dumb.

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Just go inside. We leave our Halloween decorations

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up until our HOA yells at us. I love that for

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you guys. And we keep adding to it. We're soon

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going to be one of those houses. We're like the

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only house in our neighborhood that has decorations.

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I saw a few when I drove through the other day.

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Feeding your animals, not just stalking you.

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It doesn't matter. Well, I want other people

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to know. I won't just randomly drive through

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Courtney's neighborhood without being invited.

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I'm like a vampire like that, you know? Thank

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And with all that said, I just have one question.

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Do you believe in ghosts? I've really, as I've

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grown older, I like practical effects a lot more.

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Okay. Just because I think CG, I hit a peak in

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like this time. Yeah, I would agree with you.

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It's really gone downhill. I would agree. So

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going back and watching movies with practical

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effects is... Yeah, or like a nice happy medium

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of like... And you can appreciate the camp a

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little bit more. I feel like when CGI was at

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its peak in the 2000s and the early 2010s -ish,

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people were so impressed by that that when we

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looked at more practical effects or even shitty

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older effects, we just wanted to shit on them.

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But now that they've done too much with CGI,

00:22:05.230 --> 00:22:08.809
we can appreciate... them good and bad yeah like

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i really like going back and watching hitchcock's

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the birds for that reason because they are just

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throwing fake birds but and now i can appreciate

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that i wouldn't want them to remake the birds

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and use cgi that would be fucking terrible it

00:22:20.890 --> 00:22:23.329
takes away from the charm so i can i can agree

00:22:23.329 --> 00:22:26.230
with you about this one i really like the effects

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of the werewolf scene yeah that was fucking dope

00:22:30.859 --> 00:22:32.839
that's when i was like maybe i like this movie

00:22:32.839 --> 00:22:34.740
yeah i mentioned that last night i was like i

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think this is a like as far as like werewolf

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transition yeah from people to wolves it's it's

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up there it was better than twilight for sure

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again bad cgi yeah just big ass dogs big ass

00:22:48.140 --> 00:22:52.539
dogs yep bella where the hell you been loca but

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no i liked it a lot and i thought it went on

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for the appropriate amount of time Like, it wasn't

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a super long transformation scene, but it wasn't

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so quick that you didn't get to appreciate all

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the little, like, details. Yeah, I remember when

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I first started watching, when I first watched

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it. I wasn't quite sure what was, obviously,

00:23:11.769 --> 00:23:13.109
I didn't know what was happening. Yeah, me neither.

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Because when I first saw the things, I'm like,

00:23:14.450 --> 00:23:16.710
oh, they're vampires. That's exactly what I fucking

00:23:16.710 --> 00:23:18.329
thought. Okay, cool. And then all of a sudden,

00:23:18.349 --> 00:23:20.210
they're stripping their skin. And I'm like, what

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the fuck is happening? Yeah, I was like, oh,

00:23:22.009 --> 00:23:24.049
so like Nosferatu vampires? Like, we're getting

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gross? And then I saw fur. Yep. And I was like,

00:23:27.289 --> 00:23:32.109
well, probably a dog. But no, I liked it. I thought

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it was a nice, I don't know if twist is the right

00:23:34.210 --> 00:23:35.529
word, but I liked that they were werewolves.

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Because you would expect a bunch of hot girls.

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To be... Vampires. Witches. Or vampires or something.

00:23:41.690 --> 00:23:44.690
Yes. But to be werewolves was... And still hot.

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Cool. Yeah, and that was kind of the play on

00:23:47.069 --> 00:23:50.009
that story too, right? Where it was like, you

00:23:50.009 --> 00:23:53.309
know, shy girl trying to get a guy. Her first

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time. Yeah. Trying to get a guy. Speaking of

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virginity. Speaking of virginity. Yeah. And so...

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It was like a... It was kind of a turnaround.

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Like a twist within the twist of... Oh, it's

00:24:03.970 --> 00:24:06.410
the turnaround of her being... Yeah. It took

00:24:06.410 --> 00:24:08.869
you by surprise a little bit. And I thought it

00:24:08.869 --> 00:24:11.250
was hilarious when she was like, it's my first

00:24:11.250 --> 00:24:14.150
time, so bear with me. And she's already a wolf.

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And that it was the bad guy who kills kids. Which

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I liked the twist that his son was a part of

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it. Me too. I was like, oh shit. I thought he

00:24:25.769 --> 00:24:27.829
was going to kill his kid. Because, I mean, honestly.

00:24:28.190 --> 00:24:31.250
That's what they set it up. I wasn't going to

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say that. I was just going to say that's what

00:24:32.410 --> 00:24:35.089
they wanted you to think clearly. That he was

00:24:35.089 --> 00:24:38.339
going to kill the kid. But then, And when he's

00:24:38.339 --> 00:24:40.859
training his kid to be the next... Murderer.

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Yeah. Murderer. Well, they all kind of had a

00:24:43.779 --> 00:24:46.680
small twist to it. Yeah. Except for the one.

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I think the... The kids. Yeah, the school bus.

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The ghost kids. No, it's not fucked up. Yeah,

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I think that was kind of the point. Yeah. But

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there was no real twist. You kind of saw that

00:24:55.779 --> 00:24:58.819
all the way through. Well, and I feel like that's

00:24:58.819 --> 00:25:00.680
when I started to think I'm really going to hate

00:25:00.680 --> 00:25:02.200
this. Because it just got a little, like, boring

00:25:02.200 --> 00:25:04.200
for me. It went on a little bit too. I just didn't...

00:25:04.200 --> 00:25:07.380
Yeah, I would say that story is... Probably the

00:25:07.380 --> 00:25:09.279
worst of them all. Yeah. I mean, I like that

00:25:09.279 --> 00:25:11.099
it came back around and, like, the old guy's

00:25:11.099 --> 00:25:14.299
the bus driver or whatever, but, like, actually

00:25:14.299 --> 00:25:17.059
just watching it was just, like, boring and...

00:25:17.059 --> 00:25:19.519
Yeah. That's when I was about to... I was like,

00:25:19.539 --> 00:25:20.960
I'm gonna shit all over this movie when Mike

00:25:20.960 --> 00:25:22.799
gets here next week. That was just, like, a ghost

00:25:22.799 --> 00:25:26.779
story to me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that embodies

00:25:26.779 --> 00:25:29.559
Halloween, too, is, like, sometimes it's, like,

00:25:29.559 --> 00:25:32.799
gore and, like, horror and stuff, but other times

00:25:32.799 --> 00:25:34.539
it's just ghost stories. Well, and that's one

00:25:34.539 --> 00:25:37.279
thing I did appreciate about the, like, pseudo

00:25:37.279 --> 00:25:41.299
anthology of it like there was the what you think

00:25:41.299 --> 00:25:43.119
is just going to be a basic teen slasher and

00:25:43.119 --> 00:25:45.720
like virgin dies first with the girl and there

00:25:45.720 --> 00:25:48.400
was supernatural creatures with the werewolves

00:25:48.400 --> 00:25:50.259
there was just a good old -fashioned ghost story

00:25:50.259 --> 00:25:54.960
there was um like a slasher character in sam

00:25:54.960 --> 00:25:57.579
in the last scene and then there was like a just

00:25:57.579 --> 00:26:01.440
a crazy fucking guy killing people with the first

00:26:01.440 --> 00:26:04.980
guy and then i don't know the first scene i guess

00:26:04.980 --> 00:26:08.650
just Idiots. Yeah, just dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Do

00:26:08.650 --> 00:26:10.970
you guys remember the rules? The Halloween rules?

00:26:11.150 --> 00:26:12.329
Because I don't know if I remember them all.

00:26:12.470 --> 00:26:16.069
Leave your pumpkin on. Yeah. Leave your jack

00:26:16.069 --> 00:26:18.250
-o' -lantern until it's midnight. Give candy

00:26:18.250 --> 00:26:21.190
out. Okay. There's two big ones. Yeah, look them

00:26:21.190 --> 00:26:23.690
up. Because I don't remember. Because, like,

00:26:23.690 --> 00:26:25.529
at some point, I think I got kind of disillusioned

00:26:25.529 --> 00:26:26.869
with it. Check your candy. Check your candy.

00:26:26.910 --> 00:26:29.390
That was the first one. Because of the kid. Because

00:26:29.390 --> 00:26:32.869
of the kid. Yeah. Because, like, I paid attention

00:26:32.869 --> 00:26:35.160
to the first, like... the intro where they say

00:26:35.160 --> 00:26:36.900
the rules, but then at a certain point I got

00:26:36.900 --> 00:26:38.799
a little, like, like I said, there were parts

00:26:38.799 --> 00:26:40.359
I got a little bored with in those first few,

00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:44.380
so I stopped connecting the dots to that opening.

00:26:44.500 --> 00:26:47.240
Yeah. So I don't, I didn't, like, commit all

00:26:47.240 --> 00:26:51.000
of them. Well, that. Uh, wear a costume. Okay.

00:26:51.099 --> 00:26:53.579
Pass out treats. Who didn't wear a costume? Was

00:26:53.579 --> 00:26:56.059
it the guy at the end? No, he wasn't handing

00:26:56.059 --> 00:26:58.200
out candy. He wasn't handing out candy, which

00:26:58.200 --> 00:27:00.589
is why Sam attacked him. But because the candy

00:27:00.589 --> 00:27:02.970
was there when he went to stab him, that's, like,

00:27:02.970 --> 00:27:06.549
his giving candy. Yeah. So he let him live. Yeah,

00:27:06.569 --> 00:27:08.150
but who wasn't wearing a costume? That I don't

00:27:08.150 --> 00:27:11.150
remember. I don't think that was the focus. Okay.

00:27:11.210 --> 00:27:13.150
I just didn't know if, like, there was one that...

00:27:13.150 --> 00:27:14.450
Because, like I said, I didn't really... I mean,

00:27:14.450 --> 00:27:17.329
I guess the woman was kind of, like, she took

00:27:17.329 --> 00:27:19.970
off her costume. I guess. I mean, Vomit Kid also

00:27:19.970 --> 00:27:23.670
wasn't. Oh, yeah. I don't know if it actually

00:27:23.670 --> 00:27:26.349
comes out and says most of them. Because I know

00:27:26.349 --> 00:27:28.109
at the beginning it said the list, and I didn't

00:27:28.109 --> 00:27:30.400
know if it was, like... they all go back to it

00:27:30.400 --> 00:27:33.160
or not. Cause I don't know. I just didn't pay

00:27:33.160 --> 00:27:35.019
close enough attention, I guess. But really the

00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:38.160
first, we keep saying four stories. The first

00:27:38.160 --> 00:27:40.319
one's like a half. It's like an introduction.

00:27:40.539 --> 00:27:42.220
Yeah. It's the introduction and the ending really.

00:27:42.480 --> 00:27:44.740
For one, always wear a costume. Rule two, always

00:27:44.740 --> 00:27:47.339
pass out treats to trick -or -treaters. Never

00:27:47.339 --> 00:27:49.279
blow out a jack -o' -lantern before midnight.

00:27:49.400 --> 00:27:52.220
Always check your candy. Always respect the dead.

00:27:52.619 --> 00:27:55.480
Never take down your decorations before November

00:27:55.480 --> 00:28:00.390
1st. Never hurt the innocent. Okay. So there's

00:28:00.390 --> 00:28:03.190
multiple. So the woman attempts to take down

00:28:03.190 --> 00:28:05.809
decorations early. And the jack -o -lantern.

00:28:05.910 --> 00:28:07.930
So she makes it clear she isn't a fan of Halloween,

00:28:08.170 --> 00:28:09.769
even blowing out the jack -o -lantern. Yeah.

00:28:09.809 --> 00:28:12.490
So there's two right there. Bam. Always respect

00:28:12.490 --> 00:28:15.789
the dead. School bus. Right. The costume's the

00:28:15.789 --> 00:28:19.630
only one that's... Not... That I can't remember.

00:28:20.049 --> 00:28:22.650
I mean, some of the guys with the werewolves

00:28:22.650 --> 00:28:24.269
weren't wearing costumes because they were part

00:28:24.269 --> 00:28:26.470
of the news crew. Yeah. I think that's a stretch.

00:28:27.160 --> 00:28:28.720
Well, and I mean, I think I could be getting

00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:31.339
way too meta on this, but I mean, the killer

00:28:31.339 --> 00:28:33.660
guy who ends up being the werewolf's victim,

00:28:33.779 --> 00:28:37.220
I know he had like a cloak on, but he was the

00:28:37.220 --> 00:28:39.420
killer anyway. So was he really wearing a costume

00:28:39.420 --> 00:28:41.819
or was he just dressed up as himself? Well, I

00:28:41.819 --> 00:28:43.400
think he was supposed to be a vampire. All right.

00:28:43.400 --> 00:28:47.619
Well, he still ate people. Yeah. So is that really,

00:28:47.680 --> 00:28:49.599
that's not really a costume. It'd be more of

00:28:49.599 --> 00:28:51.099
a costume if he dressed up as like a nice guy.

00:28:51.619 --> 00:28:53.640
Again, could be too meta, but that's literally

00:28:53.640 --> 00:28:56.059
the only thing I can think of. Except for maybe

00:28:56.059 --> 00:28:59.420
that kid who didn't check his candy. Yeah, I

00:28:59.420 --> 00:29:01.380
mean, obviously, like, there's multiple for each,

00:29:01.500 --> 00:29:05.259
so. So which, so with the rules, which one do

00:29:05.259 --> 00:29:09.039
you guys think you're most likely to break? If

00:29:09.039 --> 00:29:11.220
any. And don't just, I mean, think about it.

00:29:11.259 --> 00:29:13.220
Never wear, or always wear a costume. We don't

00:29:13.220 --> 00:29:15.519
always dress up. Yeah, me neither. I haven't

00:29:15.519 --> 00:29:17.519
dressed up in a couple years. We dressed up last

00:29:17.519 --> 00:29:19.539
year. Yeah, we dressed up last year. Oh, yeah,

00:29:19.559 --> 00:29:21.960
for your trick -or -treater thing? When no one

00:29:21.960 --> 00:29:24.519
comes into our neighborhood. Sorry. I would think

00:29:24.519 --> 00:29:29.000
mine would be the jack -o' -lantern. We don't

00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:31.259
always do jack -o' -lanterns. I don't think I've

00:29:31.259 --> 00:29:33.140
ever done one as an adult. Like, one that you

00:29:33.140 --> 00:29:35.660
actually... An old -fashioned one, like, with

00:29:35.660 --> 00:29:38.160
a candle in it. Yeah. I don't think I've done

00:29:38.160 --> 00:29:39.940
that. Also, for me, this year, the decorations.

00:29:40.099 --> 00:29:42.319
Because I didn't even put them up. A lot of people

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.940
are putting them out. I know. I literally said

00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:47.480
that on our way to your house. Why does no one

00:29:47.480 --> 00:29:50.119
have decorations? Okay, well, I never had outside

00:29:50.119 --> 00:29:51.819
decorations because I always lived in apartments

00:29:51.819 --> 00:29:54.319
and shit. So I just didn't have the real estate

00:29:54.319 --> 00:29:56.319
space for it. And this year I was thinking about

00:29:56.319 --> 00:29:58.079
doing it. I told you that on a past episode.

00:29:58.720 --> 00:30:02.460
And I didn't even decorate inside. I put out

00:30:02.460 --> 00:30:06.200
my bowl of candy and that was fucking it. I don't

00:30:06.200 --> 00:30:07.839
know. The first two weeks of October were fucking

00:30:07.839 --> 00:30:12.109
nuts. And I didn't have time and I didn't, I

00:30:12.109 --> 00:30:14.670
was so tired. I didn't want to. And now it's

00:30:14.670 --> 00:30:19.569
already Halloween. So I just, I had Justin get

00:30:19.569 --> 00:30:20.849
them because we were cleaning out the garage

00:30:20.849 --> 00:30:22.990
and doing stuff and I had him get them out. Yeah.

00:30:23.289 --> 00:30:25.509
And I was like, last night, I think I was just

00:30:25.509 --> 00:30:28.690
like, you can put them away. I'm not, it was

00:30:28.690 --> 00:30:31.049
like, you can just put those back. I, the dream's

00:30:31.049 --> 00:30:33.250
dead. I can't do it this year. I'm just tired.

00:30:33.490 --> 00:30:35.930
But I would usually, if they were up, I would

00:30:35.930 --> 00:30:37.450
leave them up until I put Christmas decorations

00:30:37.450 --> 00:30:40.900
up, which. Is not until December, usually. So

00:30:40.900 --> 00:30:42.779
every other year, I don't think I break that

00:30:42.779 --> 00:30:45.140
rule. But this year, for sure. We've really moved

00:30:45.140 --> 00:30:47.539
from inside decorations to outside decorations.

00:30:47.980 --> 00:30:50.299
Yeah, we don't decorate our inside. Like, we

00:30:50.299 --> 00:30:52.140
leave our Halloween houses up all year round.

00:30:52.259 --> 00:30:54.740
Yeah. But we don't actually decorate for Halloween

00:30:54.740 --> 00:30:57.740
inside. Yeah, see, that's all I did. And I went

00:30:57.740 --> 00:30:59.299
all out before. I mean, you remember, I had,

00:30:59.299 --> 00:31:01.099
like, bats all over the walls. Freaking bats.

00:31:01.380 --> 00:31:03.460
The whole bathroom had, like, blood all over

00:31:03.460 --> 00:31:07.039
it. And I really, but I have a lot of stuff up

00:31:07.039 --> 00:31:09.900
all year round too. That's most people. Yeah.

00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:14.380
Like my oven mitts are always skeletons. My bathroom

00:31:14.380 --> 00:31:16.299
in there right now is all horror themed all the

00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:18.380
time. There's a scream rug and everything. So

00:31:18.380 --> 00:31:21.599
you're welcome to test it out. The rug or the

00:31:21.599 --> 00:31:24.720
toilet? The toilet, but you can walk on the rug.

00:31:25.059 --> 00:31:28.000
The other ones, I don't know. I mean, I don't

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:31.210
remember ever checking my candy. As a kid. Oh,

00:31:31.430 --> 00:31:33.130
yeah, we used to do it all the time. Check it?

00:31:33.250 --> 00:31:35.190
You had to check it, really? Oh, yeah. What do

00:31:35.190 --> 00:31:38.410
you look for? Razor blades? Yeah, the stereotypical,

00:31:38.569 --> 00:31:42.289
like... I don't know if we were necessarily checking

00:31:42.289 --> 00:31:44.230
or if my parents were just picking out what they

00:31:44.230 --> 00:31:47.130
wanted. Yeah. Looking back on it. That sounds

00:31:47.130 --> 00:31:49.490
more correct. We definitely... I don't remember

00:31:49.490 --> 00:31:51.470
my parents ever doing that. I mean, maybe looking,

00:31:51.549 --> 00:31:54.190
like, in the actual, like, my pumpkin bucket

00:31:54.190 --> 00:31:55.750
or whatever to see if there's anything weird

00:31:55.750 --> 00:32:00.230
in there. But not the candy itself. No. How did

00:32:00.230 --> 00:32:02.069
they do it? Wait, did you have to like take a

00:32:02.069 --> 00:32:03.730
bite and prove there wasn't a razor in it? Like

00:32:03.730 --> 00:32:06.190
how did they check it? Just to make sure there

00:32:06.190 --> 00:32:07.930
wasn't sticking. I don't know. Nothing sticking

00:32:07.930 --> 00:32:11.230
out of it. It was mostly like. You really got

00:32:11.230 --> 00:32:12.529
to hide those razor blades. No, I think it was

00:32:12.529 --> 00:32:15.049
mostly like baked goods. If anybody threw like

00:32:15.049 --> 00:32:17.190
a baked good in there or something that wasn't

00:32:17.190 --> 00:32:20.170
like pre -wrapped. Yeah, see that? I don't think

00:32:20.170 --> 00:32:21.990
I was allowed to eat that. I think my mom was

00:32:21.990 --> 00:32:24.069
always just like throw that away. Yeah. But I

00:32:24.069 --> 00:32:25.569
don't think she checked it. It was just like.

00:32:25.869 --> 00:32:28.650
Don't eat it. Yeah. Or anything that, like, came

00:32:28.650 --> 00:32:30.549
out of its wrapper or anything like that. I think

00:32:30.549 --> 00:32:32.529
that was mostly... Well, that makes more sense.

00:32:32.589 --> 00:32:34.109
I thought you were checking, like, individual

00:32:34.109 --> 00:32:38.130
pieces of... Open each candy individually and

00:32:38.130 --> 00:32:39.750
let's see what's going on here. Show me there

00:32:39.750 --> 00:32:42.990
are no needles. Yeah, as I got, like, way older,

00:32:43.109 --> 00:32:45.309
it's like, who's gonna waste drugs on children?

00:32:45.569 --> 00:32:47.420
No. No one's gonna inject... you know black tar

00:32:47.420 --> 00:32:50.339
heroin dude no and honestly now that they lock

00:32:50.339 --> 00:32:53.119
up the razors in the stores i wouldn't waste

00:32:53.119 --> 00:32:55.519
razor blades on kids either i don't i hate going

00:32:55.519 --> 00:32:58.079
in there and asking for assistance oh it's the

00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.920
worst no in the electronics section like just

00:33:00.920 --> 00:33:04.200
to get a charger you have to ask or like if you

00:33:04.200 --> 00:33:06.359
need to get like a light for your like a headlight

00:33:06.359 --> 00:33:09.369
for your car like an up You have to ask for them

00:33:09.369 --> 00:33:11.089
to open the lights for your car. I don't like

00:33:11.089 --> 00:33:12.730
that you have, like, I see certain, like. I don't

00:33:12.730 --> 00:33:14.670
want to ask anyone anything. They're locking

00:33:14.670 --> 00:33:16.869
up deodorant and shit in some of the pharmacies.

00:33:16.930 --> 00:33:20.410
I don't get that. Like, why? I think my biggest

00:33:20.410 --> 00:33:22.490
thing is, like, the family planning section.

00:33:22.710 --> 00:33:25.109
That's all locked up. Which is, I think that's

00:33:25.109 --> 00:33:27.390
fucked up because, so they're not going to. And

00:33:27.390 --> 00:33:29.029
then they're going to have to come and get plan

00:33:29.029 --> 00:33:32.690
B, which is also locked up. Right. So. And expensive.

00:33:33.089 --> 00:33:36.650
No, I think just make it less. stigmatized like

00:33:36.650 --> 00:33:38.690
why are we making it so hard for people to be

00:33:38.690 --> 00:33:40.509
safe i can understand having like a specific

00:33:40.509 --> 00:33:43.670
section like i don't know an aisle that's closer

00:33:43.670 --> 00:33:46.509
to like the pharmacist or something so where

00:33:46.509 --> 00:33:49.309
it's that's where it is right but i've seen stores

00:33:49.309 --> 00:33:51.309
where it's just in the regular old you know but

00:33:51.309 --> 00:33:53.250
like at certain ones where it's just over there

00:33:53.250 --> 00:33:55.250
by the actual pharmacy i think that's fine so

00:33:55.250 --> 00:33:57.250
you can watch and keep an eye and make sure there's

00:33:57.250 --> 00:34:01.109
not like six -year -olds but otherwise i don't

00:34:01.109 --> 00:34:03.049
think it needs to be locked up and that's pretty

00:34:03.049 --> 00:34:06.220
spooky That is spooky. Having to ask someone

00:34:06.220 --> 00:34:09.599
for something. Yeah, I hate it. Never. No. Mike

00:34:09.599 --> 00:34:11.719
made me do it when I needed a bulb for my car.

00:34:11.940 --> 00:34:13.760
He was like, you gotta ask yourself. I'm like,

00:34:13.860 --> 00:34:15.420
I don't want to. I would have never made you

00:34:15.420 --> 00:34:17.239
do that. We would have just left together. Thank

00:34:17.239 --> 00:34:19.920
you. No bulb for your car, though. I did that

00:34:19.920 --> 00:34:21.699
once when I needed a tire replaced. There was

00:34:21.699 --> 00:34:23.860
like a slow leak in one of my tires. And I was

00:34:23.860 --> 00:34:25.539
just like, you know what? I could just get a

00:34:25.539 --> 00:34:29.659
new car. So I did. But then you have to deal

00:34:29.659 --> 00:34:32.480
with someone for a lot longer to buy a new car.

00:34:32.880 --> 00:34:35.380
Yeah, I know, but I did it anyway. It was worth

00:34:35.380 --> 00:34:39.219
it to me to not have to go get a new tire. $100

00:34:39.219 --> 00:34:42.579
for a tire, $30 ,000 for a car. Dude, where I

00:34:42.579 --> 00:34:44.519
was living at the time, the only place I could

00:34:44.519 --> 00:34:46.300
go, like, price gouge the fuck out of you, try

00:34:46.300 --> 00:34:49.920
$300. For one tire? Yeah. Yeah. To have them

00:34:49.920 --> 00:34:52.309
put it on and everything, yes. Now, if I would

00:34:52.309 --> 00:34:54.469
have just bought it raw and gone out and put

00:34:54.469 --> 00:34:57.349
it on myself, maybe. Raw dog that tire. Yeah,

00:34:57.369 --> 00:34:59.190
but I didn't know how to do that. I still don't,

00:34:59.210 --> 00:35:02.449
but I really didn't then. I was like 19, so I

00:35:02.449 --> 00:35:05.769
just got a new car. Anyways, back to Trick or

00:35:05.769 --> 00:35:09.349
Treat. Why don't we just tell me why anybody

00:35:09.349 --> 00:35:11.469
should watch it. You guys tell us why it's a

00:35:11.469 --> 00:35:14.070
great movie to watch right now, today, on Halloween.

00:35:14.530 --> 00:35:16.090
If you're looking for a way to celebrate, go.

00:35:16.190 --> 00:35:18.130
It's a Halloween movie. Mike, why don't you tell

00:35:18.130 --> 00:35:20.389
us? Why you think people might want to consider

00:35:20.389 --> 00:35:23.570
watching Trick or Treat for their Halloween celebrations

00:35:23.570 --> 00:35:26.329
right after they listen to this. Again, it's

00:35:26.329 --> 00:35:28.130
a Halloween movie. And I think it has a little

00:35:28.130 --> 00:35:30.170
bit of everything that you want from a Halloween

00:35:30.170 --> 00:35:33.030
horror movie. Again, there's a little horror

00:35:33.030 --> 00:35:35.309
aspect. There's a little bit of story. There's

00:35:35.309 --> 00:35:41.010
ghost stories. There's monster stories. It's

00:35:41.010 --> 00:35:42.690
got something for every taste. I could see that.

00:35:42.869 --> 00:35:46.710
It has a cute little character named Sam. Who

00:35:46.710 --> 00:35:49.480
will kill you. If you don't follow the rules

00:35:49.480 --> 00:35:51.400
of Trick or Treat. It's got a moral to the story.

00:35:51.579 --> 00:35:54.559
It's a moral story. You gotta listen to the rules.

00:35:55.179 --> 00:35:57.679
Yeah. I think it's a decent one to watch. Like

00:35:57.679 --> 00:35:59.599
I said, I was totally prepared to shit all over

00:35:59.599 --> 00:36:01.340
this and you for it being one of your favorites.

00:36:01.679 --> 00:36:04.039
But once I got to the end of it, I was like,

00:36:04.059 --> 00:36:06.920
this was a decent way to spend an hour and a

00:36:06.920 --> 00:36:10.019
half. It was fine. It was fun. And it's also

00:36:10.019 --> 00:36:12.800
one that if you're not super concerned with following

00:36:12.800 --> 00:36:15.670
it really closely, you don't have to. You can

00:36:15.670 --> 00:36:16.829
just turn it on in the background while you have

00:36:16.829 --> 00:36:19.769
people over and watch it and laugh and whatever.

00:36:20.070 --> 00:36:23.170
And cringe. Yeah, a little bit of that too. It's

00:36:23.170 --> 00:36:26.150
got those like 2000s horror film cringe. There's

00:36:26.150 --> 00:36:27.489
a little bit of that in there as well. I will

00:36:27.489 --> 00:36:29.150
say I like it much better than our Halloween

00:36:29.150 --> 00:36:32.449
movie that we chose last year. Ghost Ship. No!

00:36:33.050 --> 00:36:35.960
Ouch. Ghost Ship is trash, and I still believe

00:36:35.960 --> 00:36:38.539
that to this day. Yeah, well, our listeners think

00:36:38.539 --> 00:36:41.320
otherwise. No. Because they love it. They love

00:36:41.320 --> 00:36:43.079
the episode where we talked about it, and at

00:36:43.079 --> 00:36:45.239
least 60 % of that episode is me talking about

00:36:45.239 --> 00:36:47.400
how it's trash. So maybe they just agree with

00:36:47.400 --> 00:36:49.860
me so hard that they couldn't stop listening

00:36:49.860 --> 00:36:52.239
to the episode and my views on it. Ghost Ship

00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:54.719
is so good. I haven't watched Ghost Ship in a

00:36:54.719 --> 00:36:57.579
while. Yeah? Do you want to go watch it? The

00:36:57.579 --> 00:37:00.659
one death scene is pretty good. It's the best.

00:37:01.559 --> 00:37:03.820
Which one are we talking about? The first. The

00:37:03.820 --> 00:37:06.320
Wire. Yeah, that was good. But there's a whole

00:37:06.320 --> 00:37:09.599
movie after that. That's the first 30 seconds.

00:37:09.619 --> 00:37:11.579
The rest of the movie is not enough. That's the

00:37:11.579 --> 00:37:14.460
first 30 seconds. And then turn it off. You know?

00:37:14.539 --> 00:37:18.119
Are you telling me that if you were a ghost on

00:37:18.119 --> 00:37:22.739
that ship, that you wouldn't seduce a human to

00:37:22.739 --> 00:37:24.960
their death? First of all, I barely want to seduce

00:37:24.960 --> 00:37:28.139
a human now. I'm tired. I'm certainly not going

00:37:28.139 --> 00:37:30.070
to waste my time doing it when I'm dead. But

00:37:30.070 --> 00:37:33.409
no, I would not, if I had to be a ghost on that

00:37:33.409 --> 00:37:36.869
ship, clearly I went to hell. That would be my

00:37:36.869 --> 00:37:39.389
hell. I would not, I would not want to haunt

00:37:39.389 --> 00:37:43.389
that boat. The Titanic? Maybe. I mean, you wouldn't

00:37:43.389 --> 00:37:45.710
have a choice. I know, but that's what I'm saying.

00:37:45.750 --> 00:37:48.309
I would hate that. You would just be there, like,

00:37:48.369 --> 00:37:50.750
and not haunt it? No, I would just be in the

00:37:50.750 --> 00:37:52.570
background, and then if they're like, this feels

00:37:52.570 --> 00:37:54.230
weird, I was like, yeah, maybe you should fucking

00:37:54.230 --> 00:37:58.969
go. That's it. That's your ghost? You're the

00:37:58.969 --> 00:38:02.690
warding ghost? Yeah, and not like, whoa, get

00:38:02.690 --> 00:38:05.489
out. Fucking leave, guys. Seriously, how many

00:38:05.489 --> 00:38:08.349
more things have to happen? But no, I think it

00:38:08.349 --> 00:38:10.630
was good. I will say, if I was going to watch

00:38:10.630 --> 00:38:13.130
it again, I feel like I could totally not even

00:38:13.130 --> 00:38:15.929
watch the middle, like, 40 minutes. The first

00:38:15.929 --> 00:38:18.309
two scenes are fine, and then I would just go

00:38:18.309 --> 00:38:21.530
straight to the end with Sam. Well, no. The werewolf

00:38:21.530 --> 00:38:25.280
girls. It's really the kid scene. It really kind

00:38:25.280 --> 00:38:27.480
of slows it down. Yeah, but it's long. It feels

00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.099
like longer than the other ones for some reason.

00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:32.599
I think it feels that way because it's continuous.

00:38:32.840 --> 00:38:34.599
I think the other ones are split up a little

00:38:34.599 --> 00:38:39.420
bit. Yeah. And the kids go on through the whole

00:38:39.420 --> 00:38:42.800
kid scene. Because that's what brings it together.

00:38:43.179 --> 00:38:45.079
So yeah, when you're following these kids and

00:38:45.079 --> 00:38:46.900
they're happening in between these other scenes,

00:38:47.260 --> 00:38:49.639
it feels like, man, I really want to find out

00:38:49.639 --> 00:38:53.159
what... they're going to do. And then it's just

00:38:53.159 --> 00:38:55.139
a big ass letdown and it goes on for a while.

00:38:56.179 --> 00:38:57.860
Like I was about to be like, man, I'm going to

00:38:57.860 --> 00:39:00.019
turn this shit off and just fake the rest. And

00:39:00.019 --> 00:39:03.400
then Anna Paquin turned into a fucking werewolf.

00:39:04.800 --> 00:39:07.559
And I was back. I like it. It's a good movie.

00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:10.820
I say watch it if you just want like a fun, fun

00:39:10.820 --> 00:39:14.059
time. Yeah. It's good nostalgia too. Yeah. I

00:39:14.059 --> 00:39:16.599
think it's a very good cult classic. Agreed.

00:39:17.519 --> 00:39:20.960
Agreed. Agreed. Well, before we go. Why don't

00:39:20.960 --> 00:39:22.960
we just talk a little bit about what's going

00:39:22.960 --> 00:39:24.340
on for Halloween? What are you guys doing for

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:25.840
Halloween? What haven't we done yet? Yeah, what

00:39:25.840 --> 00:39:27.159
have you done? What are you doing? Mike, tell

00:39:27.159 --> 00:39:29.480
us what you do every Halloween, your haunt. Yeah,

00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.800
I do haunt a house. I am Mike the Angry Clown.

00:39:33.579 --> 00:39:35.980
Really, it's just a reason for me to kind of

00:39:35.980 --> 00:39:37.960
be an asshole to people, and they think it's

00:39:37.960 --> 00:39:40.860
funny. It's like you need a reason. And it's

00:39:40.860 --> 00:39:43.539
funny. He's an asshole to me all the time, but

00:39:43.539 --> 00:39:45.119
they pay for it. I get it. Yeah, they pay for

00:39:45.119 --> 00:39:46.860
it. You're paying for it in a different way.

00:39:47.780 --> 00:39:50.610
I've been doing it almost 15 years now. That's

00:39:50.610 --> 00:39:54.590
crazy. We did have you on a couple seasons ago

00:39:54.590 --> 00:39:57.030
to talk about it almost exclusively, but it's

00:39:57.030 --> 00:39:59.010
crazy. I don't think you're still doing it, I

00:39:59.010 --> 00:40:00.650
guess, but even then when you said it was like

00:40:00.650 --> 00:40:03.750
13 years or whatever, that's crazy. But now 15,

00:40:03.869 --> 00:40:06.570
that's... It's a long time. Insane. It's a long

00:40:06.570 --> 00:40:09.050
time to be Mike the Angry Clown. Getting even

00:40:09.050 --> 00:40:11.690
angrier by the second. That's it. Seriously.

00:40:11.829 --> 00:40:16.449
Well, he said that now girls and guys are flirting

00:40:16.449 --> 00:40:21.039
because of... Yeah. um because of the whole masked

00:40:21.039 --> 00:40:28.320
men like what of tiktok and i okay what everyone

00:40:28.320 --> 00:40:33.940
is all about like um i don't know how to describe

00:40:33.940 --> 00:40:37.059
romanticizing that's a good word romanticizing

00:40:37.059 --> 00:40:40.519
masked men okay it's big like i read a whole

00:40:40.519 --> 00:40:42.820
book about it just just recently it's called

00:40:42.820 --> 00:40:45.500
lights out recommend it's really good um okay

00:40:45.500 --> 00:40:48.219
i don't think i'm gonna read it but okay i don't

00:40:48.219 --> 00:40:50.119
think i have the same fantasies as you spicy

00:40:50.119 --> 00:40:56.360
spicy so yeah so just like sexy masked men oh

00:40:56.360 --> 00:41:00.139
is the thing it's all over tiktok it's all in

00:41:00.139 --> 00:41:03.280
books now like it's just a whole so because of

00:41:03.280 --> 00:41:05.559
that people want to flirt with you in the haunted

00:41:05.559 --> 00:41:08.780
house yeah you don't wear a mask you do not wear

00:41:08.780 --> 00:41:12.320
a mask no i wear face paint um and it's happened

00:41:12.320 --> 00:41:14.380
like in years past right where you just kind

00:41:14.380 --> 00:41:17.119
of played off but this year does seem like it's

00:41:17.119 --> 00:41:20.099
like almost every other person just like wow

00:41:20.099 --> 00:41:23.639
yeah better watch out stay away from my man well

00:41:23.639 --> 00:41:25.960
if people want to go to it can you tell them

00:41:25.960 --> 00:41:28.119
about the haunted house yeah it's uh not house

00:41:28.119 --> 00:41:31.019
sorry but uh it's raven's eye manor where is

00:41:31.019 --> 00:41:34.400
it located it's in fair play maryland okay so

00:41:34.400 --> 00:41:37.280
like a website there is a website facebook all

00:41:37.280 --> 00:41:39.440
right so you can find them almost anywhere open

00:41:39.440 --> 00:41:42.719
fridays and saturdays 7 to 10 30 you might meet

00:41:42.719 --> 00:41:46.000
mike don't flirt with him Or do and see what

00:41:46.000 --> 00:41:48.239
Courtney does to you. Nothing. Crowd. Talking

00:41:48.239 --> 00:41:51.860
up a big game. Obviously, I'm not going to do

00:41:51.860 --> 00:41:54.340
anything. Is it still going on the weekend after

00:41:54.340 --> 00:41:56.059
Halloween? Yeah. We'll normally do what we could

00:41:56.059 --> 00:41:58.420
do after. Cool beans. I'm not doing anything

00:41:58.420 --> 00:42:00.980
for Halloween this year. We already went to a

00:42:00.980 --> 00:42:03.239
hot house. It was pretty good. I actually got

00:42:03.239 --> 00:42:06.579
scared. Yeah. No shit. What happened? It was

00:42:06.579 --> 00:42:09.699
dark. That's it? It was just dark? It was pitch

00:42:09.699 --> 00:42:11.820
black. Yeah. So they had an experience where

00:42:11.820 --> 00:42:15.590
it was called the darkness. and it's just it's

00:42:15.590 --> 00:42:18.389
black it's just a dark maze but like there's

00:42:18.389 --> 00:42:21.349
there was like one or two scare actors and it

00:42:21.349 --> 00:42:24.610
was near the end of the the house okay so like

00:42:24.610 --> 00:42:26.469
you're just going through this maze and it's

00:42:26.469 --> 00:42:29.349
just dark you cannot see you have to like feel

00:42:29.349 --> 00:42:32.550
around but what got me was you know in haunted

00:42:32.550 --> 00:42:35.530
houses where they have like the puff of air yeah

00:42:35.530 --> 00:42:39.530
the puff of air got me All it takes to scare

00:42:39.530 --> 00:42:41.889
you after seeing you walk through a thousand

00:42:41.889 --> 00:42:46.030
haunted houses like Moses is turning out the

00:42:46.030 --> 00:42:50.230
lights and going, that's it? That's looking it?

00:42:50.510 --> 00:42:54.610
I got her a couple times. Wow. Well, we found

00:42:54.610 --> 00:42:57.269
Courtney's kryptonite. The dark. I'm afraid of

00:42:57.269 --> 00:42:58.650
the dark. I knew you were afraid of the dark,

00:42:58.650 --> 00:43:01.010
but I didn't know it would completely throw you

00:43:01.010 --> 00:43:03.320
off your game. It threw me off my game. And the

00:43:03.320 --> 00:43:04.639
thing is, like, she said, like, oh, yeah, you

00:43:04.639 --> 00:43:07.139
took my eyes away from it. But I strictly remember

00:43:07.139 --> 00:43:11.719
one year we went to Busch Gardens. Okay. And

00:43:11.719 --> 00:43:15.059
at the end of one of them was a guy in a bungee.

00:43:15.099 --> 00:43:18.480
So he would, like, run out. No, they were just

00:43:18.480 --> 00:43:21.579
out. We were just walking through the park at

00:43:21.579 --> 00:43:23.820
Busch Gardens. It was, like, the circus one.

00:43:23.940 --> 00:43:25.960
It was right after the circus one. Okay. So he

00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.119
would, like, bungee out, get really close to

00:43:28.119 --> 00:43:30.159
people. And then be. And then, like, slingshot

00:43:30.159 --> 00:43:33.369
back. Got you. And. give this guy props because

00:43:33.369 --> 00:43:36.050
he timed it perfectly she wasn't looking got

00:43:36.050 --> 00:43:38.389
her and she didn't have a single reaction yeah

00:43:38.389 --> 00:43:40.570
that's what i'm talking about i've seen her not

00:43:40.570 --> 00:43:43.949
that exact thing but stuff that will scare most

00:43:43.949 --> 00:43:47.230
people just out of sheer like jump scare yeah

00:43:47.230 --> 00:43:48.869
like there's just something there that's not

00:43:48.869 --> 00:43:51.670
supposed to be there and i've seen her not be

00:43:51.670 --> 00:43:55.449
affected at all yeah and it's just the mighty

00:43:55.449 --> 00:43:59.860
must fall flipping the switch yeah So if I turned

00:43:59.860 --> 00:44:01.260
off all the lights in my house and turned on

00:44:01.260 --> 00:44:04.320
my humidifier, that would get you. Random puff

00:44:04.320 --> 00:44:05.760
of cold air in the dark. Well, it's funny you

00:44:05.760 --> 00:44:07.099
say that because I scare her around the house

00:44:07.099 --> 00:44:08.840
all the time. On purpose or just being there?

00:44:09.079 --> 00:44:11.059
No, just being there. I could round a corner

00:44:11.059 --> 00:44:14.860
and she'd be like, oh, I live here. I live here.

00:44:15.659 --> 00:44:18.780
I almost pushed Justin down the stairs the other

00:44:18.780 --> 00:44:22.179
day because he did that to me. Not on purpose.

00:44:22.320 --> 00:44:24.420
I wasn't like, I'm going to push my spouse down

00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:27.260
the stairs. But I was in that bathroom over there.

00:44:28.799 --> 00:44:32.860
I guess he said he announced himself coming up

00:44:32.860 --> 00:44:34.639
the stairs, but I did not hear him. And so I

00:44:34.639 --> 00:44:37.159
opened the door and he's just standing at the

00:44:37.159 --> 00:44:39.739
top of the stairs. And I went, and I threw my

00:44:39.739 --> 00:44:43.559
arms out. And my goal was like, intruder, attack.

00:44:44.239 --> 00:44:47.300
And I didn't get him. But yeah, that was my first

00:44:47.300 --> 00:44:48.719
instinct was just to push him down the stairs.

00:44:48.840 --> 00:44:51.579
He wasn't trying to scare me. He was just there.

00:44:51.639 --> 00:44:54.119
He just dared to enter the upstairs of his own

00:44:54.119 --> 00:44:58.510
home. Thanks for listening, you guys, to our

00:44:58.510 --> 00:45:01.030
spooky season block of episodes. We hope you've

00:45:01.030 --> 00:45:03.510
had fun. And thanks, Mike, for coming on the

00:45:03.510 --> 00:45:06.110
last episode. Yeah, coming for the finale. Thanks

00:45:06.110 --> 00:45:08.670
for having me. Thanks for coming. What? What?

00:45:09.070 --> 00:45:12.250
Don't do that here while I'm here. We've had

00:45:12.250 --> 00:45:14.610
a whole month of spooky season episodes, so if

00:45:14.610 --> 00:45:16.329
you're still not, you don't have it out of your

00:45:16.329 --> 00:45:18.809
system, I won't until at least Christmas. I never

00:45:18.809 --> 00:45:20.550
will. Go back and listen to all of our spooky

00:45:20.550 --> 00:45:23.190
episodes from this season and from past seasons.

00:45:23.230 --> 00:45:25.599
We've got plenty. Yeah, we do spooky season every

00:45:25.599 --> 00:45:27.519
October. But thanks for listening to this one.

00:45:27.800 --> 00:45:30.059
We hope you've enjoyed it. Have a happy Halloween.

00:45:30.280 --> 00:45:33.739
Be safe. Spooky, scary skeletons and shivers

00:45:33.739 --> 00:45:36.780
down your spine. Follow the rules. Check your

00:45:36.780 --> 00:45:39.880
candy. Be in costume. Don't blow out the jack

00:45:39.880 --> 00:45:42.380
-o' -lantern. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Happy

00:45:42.380 --> 00:45:44.659
Halloween. And we'll see you next time on 30

00:45:44.659 --> 00:45:55.440
D &D. Bye! Is this normally how this goes?
