Hello! Hey, what's up? I'm Clarissa. I'm Courtney.
This is 30 Dirty and Dying, your favorite millennial
podcast. Happy Halloween! It's Halloween! Welcome
to our Halloween episode. All October long we've
been doing Halloween and spooky season themed
episodes, but this bad boy actually is airing
on... The E, the, the hollow. You're really killing
it today. I think I was trying to say like all
hollows E. Well, I think, I think you're nervous
because we have a special guest in the room and
you guys are going to get to be introduced to
him in just a little bit. But what are we doing
today? We're going to talk about the movie Trick
or Treat. We're reliving Trick or Treat. Trick
or Treat. Yep. It's a Halloween movie for a Halloween
episode. It came out in the 2000s. So it's everything
you love us for. Nostalgia, spooks. Apparently,
millennial chaos that Courtney is bringing single
-handedly today. All right. All right. Well,
should we... I don't want to take... Get this
Halloween party started? Yes, let's start the
Halloween party. We should have dressed up. I
mean, I'm dressed up as sad. No one can see us.
Why the fuck would we dress up? For us. I mean,
I've got some masks. Oh. No, not sex ones. I
don't do that. Happy Halloween. And we have a
movie to get to, so why don't we get to back
in time? So let's get this party started. Back
in time. All right. We're in 2008. Not 2009 and
not 2007. Absolutely not. We're in 2008. Trick
or Treat came out in 2007. A lot of times we
try to do the year of whatever we're living,
but we've already done 2007 this year. And I
looked it up. I did a little research because
I never watched this movie until this. So this
is not reliving for me. It's just living. just
white knuckling through and i guess it didn't
have like a super wide release like it was it
came out in 2007 but not the way regular movies
do yeah i don't think it was in the movie theater
i think it's just like street what what i looked
up it's you know what it's on the wikipedia page
hang on i'll just tell you why i came up with
2000 The first public screening took place at
this film festival in 2007, and then subsequent
screenings included, and then most of them were
at these festivals and things in 2008. But there
weren't, it wasn't like a large theatrical release,
it was just like certain screenings, and most
of them took place in 2008. A few of them in
2009, and then direct -to -DVD, so it didn't
even get to your DVD player until 2009. Maybe
that's why I thought it was 2009. Maybe. Maybe.
Maybe. Anyways, we're talking about 2008. Yes.
So, why don't you tell us about it, Courtney?
Go ahead. Um, I lost my virginity. Wow. Wow.
Why don't you tell us about it in excruciating
detail? I don't think I want to. I don't mean,
like, fluid detail. Ew! Yeah, exactly. That's
not what I was talking about. Okay, well, then
what were you talking about? I don't know. I
was just, in general, talking about it. See,
the thing is, though, I don't remember how I
felt about it. You don't? No. Though that's,
I mean, I'm surprised, though. You've told me
about it before. Yeah. But you don't remember
your feels? I don't remember my feels. Do you
remember what prompted it? Like, was it spontaneous?
Was it planned out? It was not planned out. Well,
sometimes, I don't want to say kids like kids,
but, like, young folks will plan out something
like that because they think it's a, you know,
important occasion. Well, okay. Especially if
they've been raised religious. Well, so, I mean,
I kind of was. But I... We had a conversation
that I wanted to make sure that I loved the person.
So we were together at that point for like a
month. Okay. And we were like making out and
things were happening. Love was growing. And
I was, I, we just looked at each other and we're
like, I love you. And I'm like, all right, let's
go. It's just words, ladies and gentlemen. Was
it, was it nice? I don't remember. Oh, you said
you didn't remember feelings. I don't, physical,
sure. But I'm just saying, was it everything
you hoped for? Don't remember. So probably not
then. I'll say just for memory's sake, it was
wonderful. So, mid. Well, I mean, first time's
never great, right? Was it the guy's first time
too? Yeah. Anywho, you want to know something
that happened in 2008 that I wanted to talk about?
Yes, please. Did you ever watch The Soup? I know
I've asked you this before and I forget every
time. Okay. So there was a clip on The Soup,
I was a big fan, called Spaghetti Cat. Do you
know what this is? No. Because it also made rounds
on, like, the internet and other TV shows, so
I didn't know if maybe you... No. Okay, so apparently
on this morning show, they were talking about
drunk driving, and they had some people there
who, I guess, drank and drove and lived to tell
the tale. And for some reason, it just cut to
a picture of a cat eating spaghetti. And then
they did not speak about it. The host didn't.
Nobody said anything about it. Except for the
soup. And it was a really famous soup moment.
It kind of, like I said, made the rounds. And
I remember it. And that happened in 2008. Wow.
Yeah. Spaghetti Cat was born. They did talk about
it like a week later after the soup brought it
up. So there's that. There's that. Anything else,
Courtney? Yeah, 2008 was when I started working
at the movie theater. Okay, so movies. Let's
talk about some horror movies that came out.
Twilight. Disturbing and terrible. The Strangers
came out in 2008. Okay. You know, I just watched
that the other day. I never watched it all the
way through. It sucks. Yeah, I don't know if
I've watched it all the way through. It's not
good. People hype it up a lot, and it sucks.
Cloverfield. I remember that. Yep. The Happening.
Okay. Oh, Saw V. There's too many of those. I
like the Saw movies. I really don't. Although,
do you remember this? This could not have been
2008. This must have been like years before this.
But do you remember for one of the Saw movies,
they did this marketing campaign that was like
on regular TV, like during commercials, they
would just throw Jigsaw's face on there for a
split second. And then it would just go back
to whatever commercials were happening. No. And
then they didn't address it. Just like Spaghetti
Cat. Yes. Honestly, yes. Until like whatever
show or movie you were watching was over. And
then they would do a full. like, preview or whatever
Saw movie it was. Do you remember this? No. I
remember it. It was fucking horrifying. You'd
just be sitting there watching, like, I don't
know, My Girl or some shit, and then, like, Jigsaw's
face, gone. You're like, that can't be real.
I didn't see that. And then it keeps happening
for two hours. I need to Google that. I want
to Google that. I want to look at YouTube. I
want to see if they have it. See, and I just
remember it happening. So, like, I don't know.
But, well, I know that Don't Trust Me came out.
I don't even have to look that one up. So we'll
do a billboard. Top 100 hits. Lollipop. Lil Wayne.
You probably loved that song. I did. I did. Why
do you say it like that though? Because you were
a big fan of whatever was on the top 100. I was.
At all times. Which is fine. Love in this club.
Pocket full of sunshine. I got a pocket full
of sunshine. I kissed a girl. I kissed a girl
and I liked it. Taste of her cherry chapstick.
Okay, well, those are some hits, and now I guess
we should throw it to our special guest for the
weather. It's a little sunny outside today. But
it wasn't in 2008. Hi, I'm Mike. I know it's
been a while. It's been a while. It has. I only
come on for spooky stuff, apparently. No, you
came on for a Valentine's Day episode also. Yeah,
I love. I think that might have been... No. The
last time he was on was for music trivia, millennial
music trivia, which was like probably over a
year ago at this point. It's been a minute. Yep.
I've been tasked with giving you the tornadoes
from that year. Twist us up. You call him daddy.
I feel weird. On May 25th in Parkersburg, New
Haightford, Iowa, there was an E5. EF. F5. Wow,
you're really killing this weather report, dude.
Sorry. 400 homes were damaged. That's spookier.
21 commercial buildings, including City Hall.
City Hall? They're going to take City Hall. So
I'm really glad you made me do that. How many
tornadoes happened in the year? Did you already
say that? Was I not paying attention? No, it
was about 1 ,600 in the United States. 1 ,600
in the U .S.? That's crazy. Hundreds. Hundreds.
Thank you for twisting me up, Daddy. All right,
well, now we're going to twist out into the show
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All right, so we're talking about Trick or Treat.
Trick or Treat. Trick or Treat. And the reason
is, it's Mike's favorite Halloween movie. Is
that true, Mike? Because she says that a lot,
and that was her reasoning, but is it really?
Well, it probably is my favorite Halloween movie.
Okay, fair. There's not a lot of actual Halloween
movies. Actually, you know what? Yeah. Yeah,
and then, like, Hocus Pocus. It's Halloween.
Halloween Town. Yeah, that's a good one. But
there's not a lot. Yeah, most of them are just
haunted shit. Yeah, it's up there. I believe
a cult classic is appropriate for this. That's
what it said on Wikipedia. So that's gotta be
true. Well, so I never watched it, but so I guess
I'm living, not reliving, but you guys are reliving.
So I watched it last night. I watched it last
week after you told me to watch it literally
the same day. Were you a fan? I'll get into it.
No, but I didn't hate it. I just, I thought I
was going to hate it until like the last like
30 minutes. So then I was okay with it. Interesting.
We'll get into it. We will. But before we do,
let's talk a little bit about what it is. And
I'm going to leave it to you two because you're
the experts. So Trick or Treat is like an anthology
of four short stories about the spirit of Halloween
and maybe some rules around it. All of the stories
kind of go together. They're like kind of...
tiptoe across each other but they don't really
relate yeah they intersect yeah intersect of
course and i intersected our hands in front of
her husband whoa i mean we we were married first
yeah we were no you're all um no so i i had never
watched it but i think i think my main beef with
it to start out was, I don't think, I don't think
anthology is the right word. It's not you guys.
It's like, it was on there too. Cause at first
I was like, Courtney, not knowing what anthology
is. And I looked it up and I was like, no, that's
what they called it. Yeah. Like when I think
of an anthology, I think of something that doesn't
have to connect like separate stories. I don't
think of like, they don't have to connect. Yeah.
But I just, I don't, I don't know. I guess I
just don't think of anything that does. I just
think of like standalone things. And to me, it
wasn't really that. I think it's kind of in the
middle, right? Yeah, I can see that. It's not
like a true anthology. That's very true. But
I think all of the stories in the movie could
be separate. Yeah. I mean, I could see them being
separate, but I guess I just... I think they
chose to pull it all together to seem like a
cohesive movie. Which I liked the cohesion factor.
That's what I mean about like... I ended up liking
it at the end because it all came together. But
if they were just standalones and they didn't
do that coming together thing, I think I would
have hated it. So then can I like it as an anthology?
I don't know. I like it. You like it? There are
some parts that I don't like. So are we starting
with shitting on it? Sure. Okay. Go ahead. Are
you surprised? Look at your face. No. What scenes
do you think Courtney doesn't like and that Courtney
can confirm or deny? Any of the sexual ones.
What? Why? She reads porn exclusively. Now? I
re -listened to an episode from a long time ago,
and I literally have you saying, and I screen
-capped it because I needed it, you saying, like,
I don't want to read smut. I think smut is the
worst. You need to send that to me. I will. I
saved it. So you don't think the sexual scenes
would be her bag? Now? These ones are, they're
not, they're pretty mild. I can't even think
of any. Well, the first scene, there's like a
small porn section. Oh, is there? I don't even
remember that. The guy fell asleep and then when
he woke up, porn was on. Yeah. No, I remember
now on the TV. Yeah. I was thinking like between
the characters. Oh, not really. I mean, not really,
right? Nothing. Super explicit. So that's, I
disagree. Okay, so that's not one of them. Do
you have any others that you think she would
hate? I literally verbalized it last night. No,
I don't remember. Oh, wow. He really cares. When
the kid's throwing up. Oh, yeah. That was excessive.
It kind of was. The gurgling sounds. I hate it.
No, actually, when we were watching it, I do
remember Justin and I, like, we were watching
it. Yeah. And then... It just kept going. Yeah,
and one of us, I don't remember which one, said,
like, well, this has been happening for a while.
And it does. It's aggressive. Yeah, it's too
much. It's gross. It's a little gross. The sounds
don't help. No. And also, like, what the fuck
was he eating? Well, it was a chocolate bar.
Yeah, but it looked... Right, which is, I think,
my problem with that scene because it looks like
chocolate. It looks like chocolate milk. But
then when the killer is, like, pulling him away,
he's, like, covered in blood. Yeah. So it's not,
like, quite, like, it seemed weird. Yeah. Yeah.
No. Okay. So I don't like that part. Nice sound
effect. That would have been better. Done. So
that's one scene though. Yeah. It's like one
25 second clip. Yeah. I hated it. Which is really
long though. It was so long. It was way too long.
It was like half the movie of throw up. I do
think it was like, I turned it on and I was watching
it and Justin wasn't really like dedicated to
sitting down and watching it with me. So he was
like, I don't know, just fooling around. And
then he sat down and we said that. And then.
He was just like, what the fuck? Why are we watching
this? And I was like, it's research for the podcast.
It's Mike's favorite movie. And then he was like,
this is Mike's favorite movie? That's not my
favorite. I know. Favorite Halloween. Halloween
movie. I know. I just said it. But like, he was
judging you hard during that vomiting scene.
And I am one person to accept that sometimes
what is my favorite isn't like overly all great.
It's not like an overly all great movie. Okay.
What? And I don't give you shit about that. But
you give me shit about all my favorite movies,
even though they're not overall great, but they're
great to me. And you say they're horrible movies
and give me shit about it. They really are. And
so is this. Yes, but I... Well... I wouldn't
say it's a horrible movie. I thought it was going
to be. I was ready to be on your team. It's middle.
Oh, I don't mind it. Would you rather watch this
or Boss Baby? This. Thank you. 100%. I've never
even seen Boss Baby. I would rather watch this.
Because again, that's a wild thing to say that
her favorite movie is Boss Baby. My favorite
movie is not Boss Baby. What is it now? Because
you change it a lot. It's in my top favorite
movies, yes. Give me your top three right now.
Top three? Favorite movies ever. And we'll see
what Mike thinks about them. I like that this
is becoming so much less about trick -or -treat
and more about your marriage. I like how you
say trick -or -treat. Well, that's how it's spelled.
I don't know. Twister? Twister's good. It's not
great. It's fine, though. It's fine. Jim Carrey's
The Grinch? Okay. That's fine. I mean, it's fine
for a Christmas movie. It's okay. We can really
argue about Twister, but that's not what this
is about. If you want to have me on later. Look,
I can tell you right now that it's not realistic
at all and it's ridiculous. But it's a fine,
okay movie to watch. Right. I think I would have
been okay with Twister if it was like that. Okay.
But they do both. Like, it's like, oh, this big
tornado. It's so powerful. It's the most powerful
tornado we've ever seen. Not as powerful as my
belt, though. Yeah, thank you. Thank you. I hate
that part, too. It's stupid. It's like what I'm
saying is, like, it's not, like, it's like, oh,
we gotta save the characters. I mean, they killed
the characters in the new one. They did? Uh,
yeah. I didn't watch it yet. I told you we didn't
get to know. I mean, honestly, I will say it
is kind of a shitty disaster movie if no one
dies. Because people die in disasters. Right,
I don't think anybody on screen in the original
would die. Just that bad guy. Yeah. But everybody
won it. I was thrilled when he died. Well, yeah,
what the fuck. I mean, he was a bad guy. Anyways,
trick or treat. Yeah, trick or treat. Pretty
much the throw up was like the worst part. Awful.
Didn't need to happen. So then what do you like
about it, Courtney? I like Sam. Sam's a little
pumpkin head bitch, right? Pumpkin head bitch?
I use bitch as a term of endearment and you know
it. I call you bitch all the time because I love
you. Love you, bitch. Love you, bitch. Love you,
bitch. Which again goes back to being called
classic because now when you walk into like Spirit
Halloween, he's everywhere. Yeah. And now I know
who he is. See, because I've seen him before,
but I just never really knew who it was. I assumed
it was a movie I hadn't seen or it was just some
Halloween -ish character that, you know, like
generic. Sam. Yeah, I liked him though. I will
say the last scene where it's like just him versus
old guy, I could have watched the whole movie
that was just that kind of shit. Just him attacking
people. That was great. That's what made me like
the movie was him because it was funny, but it
was also a little bit, it's just scary enough,
like not scary, but you like the jump scare thing
because when he's just like right there and it
was just, it was just good. I could have watched
the whole movie of just that. I think what I
like the most about that scene is the change
of his size when he's fighting. Oh, yeah. Because
he's like this little kid, right? Yeah. But for
the fighting scene, it's literally like an adult
acting as Sam. And he's just like this big guy
on top of the old guy. And then all of a sudden
he's small again. And I think that's one of my
favorite parts. The power of Halloween. The power
of Halloween. Can make you grow ten sizes. Well,
I think that's what he embodies, right? Is the
spirit of Halloween. That's what I thought. He
just wants people to follow the rules of Halloween.
That's the whole point of the movie. Yeah. And
if you don't, he kills you. Actually, I have
one more thing that pisses me off about that
movie. Go ahead. But not about the movie itself.
Okay. But that bitch in the very beginning who's
saying, let's take the decorations down now.
Yeah, what the fuck? Dumb. It's the middle of
the night. One. Just leave it. Get it in the
morning. I wouldn't do it either. No. She also
mentions that they were both drunk. Like, why
are you going to do that when you're drunk? Like,
at that point, she's the one that I'm like, I'm
glad you died. Yeah. I'm glad you died. You deserve
this. You know, sucks to suck. But, like, who
the fuck? And that many decorations. I could
see if you just had, like, I don't know, like,
someone over your front door or a wreath, and
you're like, fuck it, let's take this inside.
There's too much decorations. They had a fucking
interactive display. And she's like, let me dissemble
this in the dead of night on Halloween while
I'm fucked up. Absolutely not. That was so dumb.
Just go inside. We leave our Halloween decorations
up until our HOA yells at us. I love that for
you guys. And we keep adding to it. We're soon
going to be one of those houses. We're like the
only house in our neighborhood that has decorations.
I saw a few when I drove through the other day.
Feeding your animals, not just stalking you.
It doesn't matter. Well, I want other people
to know. I won't just randomly drive through
Courtney's neighborhood without being invited.
I'm like a vampire like that, you know? Thank
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And with all that said, I just have one question.
Do you believe in ghosts? I've really, as I've
grown older, I like practical effects a lot more.
Okay. Just because I think CG, I hit a peak in
like this time. Yeah, I would agree with you.
It's really gone downhill. I would agree. So
going back and watching movies with practical
effects is... Yeah, or like a nice happy medium
of like... And you can appreciate the camp a
little bit more. I feel like when CGI was at
its peak in the 2000s and the early 2010s -ish,
people were so impressed by that that when we
looked at more practical effects or even shitty
older effects, we just wanted to shit on them.
But now that they've done too much with CGI,
we can appreciate... them good and bad yeah like
i really like going back and watching hitchcock's
the birds for that reason because they are just
throwing fake birds but and now i can appreciate
that i wouldn't want them to remake the birds
and use cgi that would be fucking terrible it
takes away from the charm so i can i can agree
with you about this one i really like the effects
of the werewolf scene yeah that was fucking dope
that's when i was like maybe i like this movie
yeah i mentioned that last night i was like i
think this is a like as far as like werewolf
transition yeah from people to wolves it's it's
up there it was better than twilight for sure
again bad cgi yeah just big ass dogs big ass
dogs yep bella where the hell you been loca but
no i liked it a lot and i thought it went on
for the appropriate amount of time Like, it wasn't
a super long transformation scene, but it wasn't
so quick that you didn't get to appreciate all
the little, like, details. Yeah, I remember when
I first started watching, when I first watched
it. I wasn't quite sure what was, obviously,
I didn't know what was happening. Yeah, me neither.
Because when I first saw the things, I'm like,
oh, they're vampires. That's exactly what I fucking
thought. Okay, cool. And then all of a sudden,
they're stripping their skin. And I'm like, what
the fuck is happening? Yeah, I was like, oh,
so like Nosferatu vampires? Like, we're getting
gross? And then I saw fur. Yep. And I was like,
well, probably a dog. But no, I liked it. I thought
it was a nice, I don't know if twist is the right
word, but I liked that they were werewolves.
Because you would expect a bunch of hot girls.
To be... Vampires. Witches. Or vampires or something.
Yes. But to be werewolves was... And still hot.
Cool. Yeah, and that was kind of the play on
that story too, right? Where it was like, you
know, shy girl trying to get a guy. Her first
time. Yeah. Trying to get a guy. Speaking of
virginity. Speaking of virginity. Yeah. And so...
It was like a... It was kind of a turnaround.
Like a twist within the twist of... Oh, it's
the turnaround of her being... Yeah. It took
you by surprise a little bit. And I thought it
was hilarious when she was like, it's my first
time, so bear with me. And she's already a wolf.
And that it was the bad guy who kills kids. Which
I liked the twist that his son was a part of
it. Me too. I was like, oh shit. I thought he
was going to kill his kid. Because, I mean, honestly.
That's what they set it up. I wasn't going to
say that. I was just going to say that's what
they wanted you to think clearly. That he was
going to kill the kid. But then, And when he's
training his kid to be the next... Murderer.
Yeah. Murderer. Well, they all kind of had a
small twist to it. Yeah. Except for the one.
I think the... The kids. Yeah, the school bus.
The ghost kids. No, it's not fucked up. Yeah,
I think that was kind of the point. Yeah. But
there was no real twist. You kind of saw that
all the way through. Well, and I feel like that's
when I started to think I'm really going to hate
this. Because it just got a little, like, boring
for me. It went on a little bit too. I just didn't...
Yeah, I would say that story is... Probably the
worst of them all. Yeah. I mean, I like that
it came back around and, like, the old guy's
the bus driver or whatever, but, like, actually
just watching it was just, like, boring and...
Yeah. That's when I was about to... I was like,
I'm gonna shit all over this movie when Mike
gets here next week. That was just, like, a ghost
story to me. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I think that embodies
Halloween, too, is, like, sometimes it's, like,
gore and, like, horror and stuff, but other times
it's just ghost stories. Well, and that's one
thing I did appreciate about the, like, pseudo
anthology of it like there was the what you think
is just going to be a basic teen slasher and
like virgin dies first with the girl and there
was supernatural creatures with the werewolves
there was just a good old -fashioned ghost story
there was um like a slasher character in sam
in the last scene and then there was like a just
a crazy fucking guy killing people with the first
guy and then i don't know the first scene i guess
just Idiots. Yeah, just dumb. Yeah. Yeah. Do
you guys remember the rules? The Halloween rules?
Because I don't know if I remember them all.
Leave your pumpkin on. Yeah. Leave your jack
-o' -lantern until it's midnight. Give candy
out. Okay. There's two big ones. Yeah, look them
up. Because I don't remember. Because, like,
at some point, I think I got kind of disillusioned
with it. Check your candy. Check your candy.
That was the first one. Because of the kid. Because
of the kid. Yeah. Because, like, I paid attention
to the first, like... the intro where they say
the rules, but then at a certain point I got
a little, like, like I said, there were parts
I got a little bored with in those first few,
so I stopped connecting the dots to that opening.
Yeah. So I don't, I didn't, like, commit all
of them. Well, that. Uh, wear a costume. Okay.
Pass out treats. Who didn't wear a costume? Was
it the guy at the end? No, he wasn't handing
out candy. He wasn't handing out candy, which
is why Sam attacked him. But because the candy
was there when he went to stab him, that's, like,
his giving candy. Yeah. So he let him live. Yeah,
but who wasn't wearing a costume? That I don't
remember. I don't think that was the focus. Okay.
I just didn't know if, like, there was one that...
Because, like I said, I didn't really... I mean,
I guess the woman was kind of, like, she took
off her costume. I guess. I mean, Vomit Kid also
wasn't. Oh, yeah. I don't know if it actually
comes out and says most of them. Because I know
at the beginning it said the list, and I didn't
know if it was, like... they all go back to it
or not. Cause I don't know. I just didn't pay
close enough attention, I guess. But really the
first, we keep saying four stories. The first
one's like a half. It's like an introduction.
Yeah. It's the introduction and the ending really.
For one, always wear a costume. Rule two, always
pass out treats to trick -or -treaters. Never
blow out a jack -o' -lantern before midnight.
Always check your candy. Always respect the dead.
Never take down your decorations before November
1st. Never hurt the innocent. Okay. So there's
multiple. So the woman attempts to take down
decorations early. And the jack -o -lantern.
So she makes it clear she isn't a fan of Halloween,
even blowing out the jack -o -lantern. Yeah.
So there's two right there. Bam. Always respect
the dead. School bus. Right. The costume's the
only one that's... Not... That I can't remember.
I mean, some of the guys with the werewolves
weren't wearing costumes because they were part
of the news crew. Yeah. I think that's a stretch.
Well, and I mean, I think I could be getting
way too meta on this, but I mean, the killer
guy who ends up being the werewolf's victim,
I know he had like a cloak on, but he was the
killer anyway. So was he really wearing a costume
or was he just dressed up as himself? Well, I
think he was supposed to be a vampire. All right.
Well, he still ate people. Yeah. So is that really,
that's not really a costume. It'd be more of
a costume if he dressed up as like a nice guy.
Again, could be too meta, but that's literally
the only thing I can think of. Except for maybe
that kid who didn't check his candy. Yeah, I
mean, obviously, like, there's multiple for each,
so. So which, so with the rules, which one do
you guys think you're most likely to break? If
any. And don't just, I mean, think about it.
Never wear, or always wear a costume. We don't
always dress up. Yeah, me neither. I haven't
dressed up in a couple years. We dressed up last
year. Yeah, we dressed up last year. Oh, yeah,
for your trick -or -treater thing? When no one
comes into our neighborhood. Sorry. I would think
mine would be the jack -o' -lantern. We don't
always do jack -o' -lanterns. I don't think I've
ever done one as an adult. Like, one that you
actually... An old -fashioned one, like, with
a candle in it. Yeah. I don't think I've done
that. Also, for me, this year, the decorations.
Because I didn't even put them up. A lot of people
are putting them out. I know. I literally said
that on our way to your house. Why does no one
have decorations? Okay, well, I never had outside
decorations because I always lived in apartments
and shit. So I just didn't have the real estate
space for it. And this year I was thinking about
doing it. I told you that on a past episode.
And I didn't even decorate inside. I put out
my bowl of candy and that was fucking it. I don't
know. The first two weeks of October were fucking
nuts. And I didn't have time and I didn't, I
was so tired. I didn't want to. And now it's
already Halloween. So I just, I had Justin get
them because we were cleaning out the garage
and doing stuff and I had him get them out. Yeah.
And I was like, last night, I think I was just
like, you can put them away. I'm not, it was
like, you can just put those back. I, the dream's
dead. I can't do it this year. I'm just tired.
But I would usually, if they were up, I would
leave them up until I put Christmas decorations
up, which. Is not until December, usually. So
every other year, I don't think I break that
rule. But this year, for sure. We've really moved
from inside decorations to outside decorations.
Yeah, we don't decorate our inside. Like, we
leave our Halloween houses up all year round.
Yeah. But we don't actually decorate for Halloween
inside. Yeah, see, that's all I did. And I went
all out before. I mean, you remember, I had,
like, bats all over the walls. Freaking bats.
The whole bathroom had, like, blood all over
it. And I really, but I have a lot of stuff up
all year round too. That's most people. Yeah.
Like my oven mitts are always skeletons. My bathroom
in there right now is all horror themed all the
time. There's a scream rug and everything. So
you're welcome to test it out. The rug or the
toilet? The toilet, but you can walk on the rug.
The other ones, I don't know. I mean, I don't
remember ever checking my candy. As a kid. Oh,
yeah, we used to do it all the time. Check it?
You had to check it, really? Oh, yeah. What do
you look for? Razor blades? Yeah, the stereotypical,
like... I don't know if we were necessarily checking
or if my parents were just picking out what they
wanted. Yeah. Looking back on it. That sounds
more correct. We definitely... I don't remember
my parents ever doing that. I mean, maybe looking,
like, in the actual, like, my pumpkin bucket
or whatever to see if there's anything weird
in there. But not the candy itself. No. How did
they do it? Wait, did you have to like take a
bite and prove there wasn't a razor in it? Like
how did they check it? Just to make sure there
wasn't sticking. I don't know. Nothing sticking
out of it. It was mostly like. You really got
to hide those razor blades. No, I think it was
mostly like baked goods. If anybody threw like
a baked good in there or something that wasn't
like pre -wrapped. Yeah, see that? I don't think
I was allowed to eat that. I think my mom was
always just like throw that away. Yeah. But I
don't think she checked it. It was just like.
Don't eat it. Yeah. Or anything that, like, came
out of its wrapper or anything like that. I think
that was mostly... Well, that makes more sense.
I thought you were checking, like, individual
pieces of... Open each candy individually and
let's see what's going on here. Show me there
are no needles. Yeah, as I got, like, way older,
it's like, who's gonna waste drugs on children?
No. No one's gonna inject... you know black tar
heroin dude no and honestly now that they lock
up the razors in the stores i wouldn't waste
razor blades on kids either i don't i hate going
in there and asking for assistance oh it's the
worst no in the electronics section like just
to get a charger you have to ask or like if you
need to get like a light for your like a headlight
for your car like an up You have to ask for them
to open the lights for your car. I don't like
that you have, like, I see certain, like. I don't
want to ask anyone anything. They're locking
up deodorant and shit in some of the pharmacies.
I don't get that. Like, why? I think my biggest
thing is, like, the family planning section.
That's all locked up. Which is, I think that's
fucked up because, so they're not going to. And
then they're going to have to come and get plan
B, which is also locked up. Right. So. And expensive.
No, I think just make it less. stigmatized like
why are we making it so hard for people to be
safe i can understand having like a specific
section like i don't know an aisle that's closer
to like the pharmacist or something so where
it's that's where it is right but i've seen stores
where it's just in the regular old you know but
like at certain ones where it's just over there
by the actual pharmacy i think that's fine so
you can watch and keep an eye and make sure there's
not like six -year -olds but otherwise i don't
think it needs to be locked up and that's pretty
spooky That is spooky. Having to ask someone
for something. Yeah, I hate it. Never. No. Mike
made me do it when I needed a bulb for my car.
He was like, you gotta ask yourself. I'm like,
I don't want to. I would have never made you
do that. We would have just left together. Thank
you. No bulb for your car, though. I did that
once when I needed a tire replaced. There was
like a slow leak in one of my tires. And I was
just like, you know what? I could just get a
new car. So I did. But then you have to deal
with someone for a lot longer to buy a new car.
Yeah, I know, but I did it anyway. It was worth
it to me to not have to go get a new tire. $100
for a tire, $30 ,000 for a car. Dude, where I
was living at the time, the only place I could
go, like, price gouge the fuck out of you, try
$300. For one tire? Yeah. Yeah. To have them
put it on and everything, yes. Now, if I would
have just bought it raw and gone out and put
it on myself, maybe. Raw dog that tire. Yeah,
but I didn't know how to do that. I still don't,
but I really didn't then. I was like 19, so I
just got a new car. Anyways, back to Trick or
Treat. Why don't we just tell me why anybody
should watch it. You guys tell us why it's a
great movie to watch right now, today, on Halloween.
If you're looking for a way to celebrate, go.
It's a Halloween movie. Mike, why don't you tell
us? Why you think people might want to consider
watching Trick or Treat for their Halloween celebrations
right after they listen to this. Again, it's
a Halloween movie. And I think it has a little
bit of everything that you want from a Halloween
horror movie. Again, there's a little horror
aspect. There's a little bit of story. There's
ghost stories. There's monster stories. It's
got something for every taste. I could see that.
It has a cute little character named Sam. Who
will kill you. If you don't follow the rules
of Trick or Treat. It's got a moral to the story.
It's a moral story. You gotta listen to the rules.
Yeah. I think it's a decent one to watch. Like
I said, I was totally prepared to shit all over
this and you for it being one of your favorites.
But once I got to the end of it, I was like,
this was a decent way to spend an hour and a
half. It was fine. It was fun. And it's also
one that if you're not super concerned with following
it really closely, you don't have to. You can
just turn it on in the background while you have
people over and watch it and laugh and whatever.
And cringe. Yeah, a little bit of that too. It's
got those like 2000s horror film cringe. There's
a little bit of that in there as well. I will
say I like it much better than our Halloween
movie that we chose last year. Ghost Ship. No!
Ouch. Ghost Ship is trash, and I still believe
that to this day. Yeah, well, our listeners think
otherwise. No. Because they love it. They love
the episode where we talked about it, and at
least 60 % of that episode is me talking about
how it's trash. So maybe they just agree with
me so hard that they couldn't stop listening
to the episode and my views on it. Ghost Ship
is so good. I haven't watched Ghost Ship in a
while. Yeah? Do you want to go watch it? The
one death scene is pretty good. It's the best.
Which one are we talking about? The first. The
Wire. Yeah, that was good. But there's a whole
movie after that. That's the first 30 seconds.
The rest of the movie is not enough. That's the
first 30 seconds. And then turn it off. You know?
Are you telling me that if you were a ghost on
that ship, that you wouldn't seduce a human to
their death? First of all, I barely want to seduce
a human now. I'm tired. I'm certainly not going
to waste my time doing it when I'm dead. But
no, I would not, if I had to be a ghost on that
ship, clearly I went to hell. That would be my
hell. I would not, I would not want to haunt
that boat. The Titanic? Maybe. I mean, you wouldn't
have a choice. I know, but that's what I'm saying.
I would hate that. You would just be there, like,
and not haunt it? No, I would just be in the
background, and then if they're like, this feels
weird, I was like, yeah, maybe you should fucking
go. That's it. That's your ghost? You're the
warding ghost? Yeah, and not like, whoa, get
out. Fucking leave, guys. Seriously, how many
more things have to happen? But no, I think it
was good. I will say, if I was going to watch
it again, I feel like I could totally not even
watch the middle, like, 40 minutes. The first
two scenes are fine, and then I would just go
straight to the end with Sam. Well, no. The werewolf
girls. It's really the kid scene. It really kind
of slows it down. Yeah, but it's long. It feels
like longer than the other ones for some reason.
I think it feels that way because it's continuous.
I think the other ones are split up a little
bit. Yeah. And the kids go on through the whole
kid scene. Because that's what brings it together.
So yeah, when you're following these kids and
they're happening in between these other scenes,
it feels like, man, I really want to find out
what... they're going to do. And then it's just
a big ass letdown and it goes on for a while.
Like I was about to be like, man, I'm going to
turn this shit off and just fake the rest. And
then Anna Paquin turned into a fucking werewolf.
And I was back. I like it. It's a good movie.
I say watch it if you just want like a fun, fun
time. Yeah. It's good nostalgia too. Yeah. I
think it's a very good cult classic. Agreed.
Agreed. Agreed. Well, before we go. Why don't
we just talk a little bit about what's going
on for Halloween? What are you guys doing for
Halloween? What haven't we done yet? Yeah, what
have you done? What are you doing? Mike, tell
us what you do every Halloween, your haunt. Yeah,
I do haunt a house. I am Mike the Angry Clown.
Really, it's just a reason for me to kind of
be an asshole to people, and they think it's
funny. It's like you need a reason. And it's
funny. He's an asshole to me all the time, but
they pay for it. I get it. Yeah, they pay for
it. You're paying for it in a different way.
I've been doing it almost 15 years now. That's
crazy. We did have you on a couple seasons ago
to talk about it almost exclusively, but it's
crazy. I don't think you're still doing it, I
guess, but even then when you said it was like
13 years or whatever, that's crazy. But now 15,
that's... It's a long time. Insane. It's a long
time to be Mike the Angry Clown. Getting even
angrier by the second. That's it. Seriously.
Well, he said that now girls and guys are flirting
because of... Yeah. um because of the whole masked
men like what of tiktok and i okay what everyone
is all about like um i don't know how to describe
romanticizing that's a good word romanticizing
masked men okay it's big like i read a whole
book about it just just recently it's called
lights out recommend it's really good um okay
i don't think i'm gonna read it but okay i don't
think i have the same fantasies as you spicy
spicy so yeah so just like sexy masked men oh
is the thing it's all over tiktok it's all in
books now like it's just a whole so because of
that people want to flirt with you in the haunted
house yeah you don't wear a mask you do not wear
a mask no i wear face paint um and it's happened
like in years past right where you just kind
of played off but this year does seem like it's
like almost every other person just like wow
yeah better watch out stay away from my man well
if people want to go to it can you tell them
about the haunted house yeah it's uh not house
sorry but uh it's raven's eye manor where is
it located it's in fair play maryland okay so
like a website there is a website facebook all
right so you can find them almost anywhere open
fridays and saturdays 7 to 10 30 you might meet
mike don't flirt with him Or do and see what
Courtney does to you. Nothing. Crowd. Talking
up a big game. Obviously, I'm not going to do
anything. Is it still going on the weekend after
Halloween? Yeah. We'll normally do what we could
do after. Cool beans. I'm not doing anything
for Halloween this year. We already went to a
hot house. It was pretty good. I actually got
scared. Yeah. No shit. What happened? It was
dark. That's it? It was just dark? It was pitch
black. Yeah. So they had an experience where
it was called the darkness. and it's just it's
black it's just a dark maze but like there's
there was like one or two scare actors and it
was near the end of the the house okay so like
you're just going through this maze and it's
just dark you cannot see you have to like feel
around but what got me was you know in haunted
houses where they have like the puff of air yeah
the puff of air got me All it takes to scare
you after seeing you walk through a thousand
haunted houses like Moses is turning out the
lights and going, that's it? That's looking it?
I got her a couple times. Wow. Well, we found
Courtney's kryptonite. The dark. I'm afraid of
the dark. I knew you were afraid of the dark,
but I didn't know it would completely throw you
off your game. It threw me off my game. And the
thing is, like, she said, like, oh, yeah, you
took my eyes away from it. But I strictly remember
one year we went to Busch Gardens. Okay. And
at the end of one of them was a guy in a bungee.
So he would, like, run out. No, they were just
out. We were just walking through the park at
Busch Gardens. It was, like, the circus one.
It was right after the circus one. Okay. So he
would, like, bungee out, get really close to
people. And then be. And then, like, slingshot
back. Got you. And. give this guy props because
he timed it perfectly she wasn't looking got
her and she didn't have a single reaction yeah
that's what i'm talking about i've seen her not
that exact thing but stuff that will scare most
people just out of sheer like jump scare yeah
like there's just something there that's not
supposed to be there and i've seen her not be
affected at all yeah and it's just the mighty
must fall flipping the switch yeah So if I turned
off all the lights in my house and turned on
my humidifier, that would get you. Random puff
of cold air in the dark. Well, it's funny you
say that because I scare her around the house
all the time. On purpose or just being there?
No, just being there. I could round a corner
and she'd be like, oh, I live here. I live here.
I almost pushed Justin down the stairs the other
day because he did that to me. Not on purpose.
I wasn't like, I'm going to push my spouse down
the stairs. But I was in that bathroom over there.
I guess he said he announced himself coming up
the stairs, but I did not hear him. And so I
opened the door and he's just standing at the
top of the stairs. And I went, and I threw my
arms out. And my goal was like, intruder, attack.
And I didn't get him. But yeah, that was my first
instinct was just to push him down the stairs.
He wasn't trying to scare me. He was just there.
He just dared to enter the upstairs of his own
home. Thanks for listening, you guys, to our
spooky season block of episodes. We hope you've
had fun. And thanks, Mike, for coming on the
last episode. Yeah, coming for the finale. Thanks
for having me. Thanks for coming. What? What?
Don't do that here while I'm here. We've had
a whole month of spooky season episodes, so if
you're still not, you don't have it out of your
system, I won't until at least Christmas. I never
will. Go back and listen to all of our spooky
episodes from this season and from past seasons.
We've got plenty. Yeah, we do spooky season every
October. But thanks for listening to this one.
We hope you've enjoyed it. Have a happy Halloween.
Be safe. Spooky, scary skeletons and shivers
down your spine. Follow the rules. Check your
candy. Be in costume. Don't blow out the jack
-o' -lantern. Yeah. Thanks for listening. Happy
Halloween. And we'll see you next time on 30
D &D. Bye! Is this normally how this goes?