Hello! Hey! Welcome! Welcome back! To another
spoo— She actually like moved with it you guys
it was great. Yeah, I did hand work. It was no
your whole body was going I know maybe you couldn't
tell because you were just like feeling the spook
inside, but I could see it I'll go back at 30
dirty good time October rages on and so does
our existential dread so we're still here Yeah,
but you're actually having a good day today.
I slept well. I'm good. Yeah, I went to bed Not
super early either. I don't think I fell asleep
until after one which is usual. Oh, that's late
Well, I go to bed early, but I usually don't,
I can't fall asleep. It's not usually the problem.
I just don't sleep well, usually. But I woke
up today and I felt pretty rested. I think it's
because we did stuff yesterday. Like we, um,
we were working on the house, like winterizing
it, for lack of a better word, like sealing up
cracks and redoing caulking and stuff. Ha, cock.
Ha, cock. It was white cock. Oh. Yeah. Well.
I'm so sorry. I'll never get as much sleep again,
guys. Don't worry. Yeah, she won't be this happy
all the time. No, never. Once every eight months
is what I said. Yep, that's about what it is.
But no, so I think because we were like doing
a bunch of stuff, I actually like was tired.
Yeah. So I was like, even though I stayed up
a little later, I just like was reading and stuff.
And then I edited the podcast. So, you know,
reading books, being spooky as fuck. Honestly,
I haven't been watching a lot of spooky things.
I haven't really decorated because we had a kind
of crazy start to October. Maisie hurt her leg.
We'll take her to the vet. She's OK. You didn't
tell me! Well, it was, it was like, we had to
take her to the ER, like we thought it was gonna
be really bad, and then they were like, she's
fine. Uh, like she was walking around fine. But
then we get her back home, and she's like, not
fine. I don't know, she had a regular vet appointment
like a few days later, so we just kept that,
and gave her the pain meds, and she's okay. I
think she just maybe must have just heard it,
like maybe jumping, it's... brain -ditter. I
don't know. But so that was the whole thing.
We had stuff to do for the house, like I said.
My mom had some stuff going on I had to help
her with. So like, I haven't had time. I haven't
been home very much. I went to Palo Scream. Was
it now? Yeah, so like, we're normally very impressed.
We haven't been for a little while. It's been
a little bit. But I don't, like I don't get scared
during haunted houses. No, you're fucking so
cool. You're like... I don't get scared, but
I want to be entertained. Sure. Dance with me.
I don't have to be scared, but I want cool imagery
and I want people to interact with me. That's
how I feel about a lot of horror movies, too.
They're probably not going to scare me, but I
want them to be good and entertaining and fun.
Right, I want to be entertained. I wasn't even
entertained. Yuck. So Mike and I walked through
these and at the end we just looked at each other
and we're like, that's it. It's just like a letdown.
Yeah, normally like we didn't we don't go in
with high expectations because with regular haunted
houses It's normally like your group and they
can focus on that one group. Yeah, they're having
like 50 people go in at a time Yeah, totally
you you can't focus on one, but then you have
to change your game up to be to be able to handle
that all that many people at a time. And they
just can't do that. And it's not their fault.
They they're definitely like short staff, like
they don't have enough scare actors. Yeah. And
it's obvious because like we'll go into like
three rooms and not see a single person. Right.
It's just it's a little disappointing. Sure.
I mean, I can see that. So we were upset about
that. That's the first haunted thing that we've
done next. This weekend, we're going to North
Carolina to see Melissa. Right. We're going to
go to a haunted house there. And then the following
weekend, we're going to go to Mike's Haunt. Which
is not scary, but at least I'm entertained by
him. Yeah, I think we're gonna try to do some
stuff around here that's fun. We might still
decorate, because I leave my Halloween decorations
up until I put my Christmas ones up. You know
what I mean? So even if I'm late for Halloween,
I don't care. It's still spooky season and we've
got two more spooky episodes coming at you. This
one. Hell yeah. This week and then next week
is Halloween. This is Halloween, this is Halloween,
Halloween, Halloween. And you know Halloween
falls on Thursday. So it will actually be our
Halloween episode and we're gonna have a special
guest probably. Yes. So keep that in mind when
you tune in next week. But right now we're gonna
continue on with our October fest. There's no
beer. Well I've got some beer downstairs if you
want some. I don't like beer. Alright. Well,
fuck you too. Okay, rude, but fine, I guess.
Why don't you tell the folks at home what we're
doing today, Courtney? Because you're the head
ghoul in charge today. I don't like that. You're
the head witch, head bitch. Go for it. Um, we're
going to be talking about things that are creepy.
Yeah, shit that creeps us out. Like, not necessarily
scares us. I feel like it's similar to if people
were around in season one for the, uh, or not
season one, but our first, I think it was season
two, the first Halloween block we did when we
did the, uh, urban legends shit. Cause it was
like not super duper scary stuff, but gives you
the willies. A little chilly release. And you
did. You really took it to the limit for this.
So I actually found a scholarly article. Yikes.
That was called On the Nature of Creepiness.
Francis T. McAndrew and Sarah S. cannot pronounce
this. K -O -E -H -N -K -E. K. Yes. Sarah S. K.
What's up Sarah? So I didn't go into super detail
of their... scholarly article. I got the abstract.
And then I also did a little research on uncanny
valley. Okay. But I also just wrote things down
that creeped me out. Yes, which I think there
are a couple funny things. But then I also Yes,
I found a Reddit yikes. What a credit things
that creep people out, which we'll get into sure.
But I pick the funny ones. Got it. I'm not going
to be scared, but I want to be entertained. Love
it. So let's entertain the masses, Clarissa.
All right, Courtney. Let's do it. Well, before
we get into the creeps, let's creep ourselves
out by just how long we've been alive and go
back in time. Back in time. All right. Today
we're in 2010. A good year. A good year for both
of us. We knew each other. Yes. I believe. I
believe. Or probably near the end of 2010? Because
I turned 16 and I got a job at the movie theater
like as soon as I turned 16 is what I was gonna
say. Same. Yeah. So I was fresh. I didn't even
drive yet. Well, speaking of fresh, I was fresh
on the Facebook. Yes! And, you know. It's about
damn time. It's about damn time. So... I put
a lot of stuff on Facebook and none of this is
like super duper ridiculous. But it is to me
because it's like who gives a shit? That's what
I think of when I read these posts. I'm like
why did you think anyone cared? So I'm just gonna
say a few. Please tell me. I'm just gonna warn
you right now there are at least two or three,
I don't know if we'll get to all of them, about
the X Games. or about extreme sports. Oh yeah,
X Games! Yeah, because that was so cool. I'm
different. X Games 16 ends with success. And
then I put one of those smiley faces that was
like the equal sign and the giant letter D with
the multiple letter Ds. Oh my god. You know,
because I was so happy about the X Games. Of
all the things I could be doing, I'm watching
house reruns. XD. I love house. I do too, but
who gives a shit, you know? Is going to try this
new thing called going to bed before midnight.
No one liked these. I just need you to know.
Ran around in the pouring rain. It was exhilarating.
I actually remember doing this. Was it exhilarating?
Well, yeah. It was a downpour. And I put on my
rain boots and put on a poncho, like a clear
Mickey Mouse poncho, and said, I'm going to go
outside. And my parents were like, what the fuck?
No, you're not. And I was like, yes, I am. And
I just ran outside. And we lived in a townhouse.
So our neighbors, and one of the time I came
back in, I just ran up and down the street. An
uncomfortable amount of my neighbors were standing
at their front doors watching me and like smiling
and laughing. I really entertained them, I guess,
because they thought it was funny. And I guess
I was probably just looking for attention. So
I got it. I posted, if all your friends were
named Cliff, would you jump off them? Absolutely.
That was my 2010 post. cleaning out my bedroom
so I can move it down to the basement. It's a
lot of work, but it's worth it. Going to the
doctor and a swim meet later. Who fucking cares?
See, that's what I mean. These aren't like ridiculously
embarrassing, but I just don't understand why
I felt the need. I feel the same way. I feel
the same way. See, now you're on my level of
embarrassing Facebook. Yeah. Um, you're everything
I never knew I always wanted. Heart. Gross. Um,
had a very eventful weekend, and I have a very
busy and long week ahead. Hit the cell. Smiley
face. Hit the what? Hit the cell. HTC. So you
text me. Oh, hit the cell, like the cell! HTC!
That's so stupid! I put that after everything!
Or text it with multiple Ts. Okay. You're the
best thing that's ever been mine. Guess what?
He wasn't. I don't got a motorboat, but I can
float your boat. That's good. What an awkward
day, especially in the last hour or so. No idea.
One person liked it, and I have a feeling they
didn't know either. I posted a picture of a bottle
of Snapple, because that matters. Wow, your glasses
do not suit you there. Oh no, because they're
not real. Courtney. They're not real glasses.
I got fake glasses. They're not even big ass
hipster lenses. Look, we don't have to - that
was 2010. Big ass hipster glasses were more recent.
It was starting. It was starting. In fact, I'll
prove it was starting. Because you had them?
Well, yeah, but I couldn't see. No, I found an
article. I say article. I found a Wikipedia entry
that was literally called 20 tens in fashion.
I don't know why this exists, but it does. And
it was defined by hipster fashion, athleisure,
and the revival of austerity era period pieces
in alternative fashions and swag inspired outfits.
I want to kill myself. But it's true. I mean,
swag was happening, but yeah. Turn my swag on,
take a look in the mirror, say what's up. Hey,
I'm getting money. You want to know what some
of the most... Now this is the 2010s, but obviously
it started in 2010. So, do you want to know what
some of the most popular global fashion brands
of the decade were? Please, because I'm sure
I had one. Why don't you guess a couple? This
will be fun, because you really were a basic
bitch. Yes. Um, infinity scarves? No, brands.
Brands. Okay, so I don't know if this was 2010,
but I was all about Ed Hardy for a while. Um,
it's not on here, but Same I mean I didn't wear
them, but I'm all the guys I had Ed Hardy Seat
covers that said love kills slowly well That's
true though, and then I also found a pair of
Ed Hardy shoes, and I loved them and I wore them
all the time Wow I'm basics like Abercrombie
Hollister Abercrombie and Fitch Hollister yes,
oh oh Charlotte ruse. It's not on here, but absolutely
forever 21 is on here Okay, so I was never I
never went to forever 21 Oh, I did. I lived at
Forever 21. I lived more, though, at Rue 21.
Oh, yeah. In high school. I think Rue 21 was
the cheap Forever 21. Absolutely. That's why
I was there. Yeah, same. I remember, though,
they had this perfume. I think it was called
Eco. I don't know. It had a clear bottle and
then the design on it was green. It looked like
leaves. And I loved that fucking perfume. I wore
it all the time. And honestly, I don't really
wear perfume now. I don't. But if I did, I always
think I want that perfume back. So I can't be
like, oh, the notes of Mahog - I don't know.
I just like how it smelled. I don't know. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Paxon? I don't know. It's not on
here, but you're super right. I know. So what's
on there then? Because they're wrong. So you
got Abercrombie & Fitch, Hollister, H &M, Louis
Vuitton, those purses, though. Oh, yeah. Nike,
Topman, I mean, Vans. Oh, got my hands on, but
they look like sneakers. Hell yeah. I mean, there
are a few more, but those are the ones that we
would know. The rest, I think, are for the bougie
among us. The ones that we couldn't afford. Oh,
totally. But yeah, I'm just okay. From 2010 to
2012 -ish. Skinny jeans, obviously. Galaxy printed
stuff was all the rage. I had all of it, yes.
Yep. Capri pants. Low rise pants. So glad we're
out of that. Maxi skirts. and maxi dresses those
were i never until more recently i'm wearing
the maxi dress i love it it's a nice dress i
i wore maxi dresses all the time in the 2010s
and stuff i just did like i was i was kind of
like a hippie phase when i went into high school
like i wore a bunch of hippie shit coming out
of my emo which was not a phase because i'm doing
it again now no phase mom uh well you want to
switch gears and talk about some movies that
came out yeah movie me up okay shutter island
you know I never watched that. I'm gonna try
to name only like spooky shit. Okay, okay. Insidious.
That came out in 2010? Oh, I feel like that -
I thought that was newer. Nope. Oh. Black Swan.
Oh, I wanna say that's spooky. That fucked me
up, man. It's a psychological horror for sure.
For sure. I don't know if that's what they were
going for, but it is. I saw that with Bob. Even
scarier not really a spooky but Alice in Wonderland
you remember the live -action they did Rajani
death was the mad hatter it was a little see
it's actually funny that you say that because
that's in my uncanny valley that the Not beef
is my head. What are their names? They were on
the list of like movies and like media that are
like considered like kind of uncanny Valley.
Yeah. Tweedledee and Tweedledum from that movie
are on that list. Yeah, if I remember correctly,
they are kind of weird and gross looking. Tucker
and Dale versus Evil. Devil. It's M. Night Shyamalan.
They did the remake of Nightmare on Elm Street.
Oh, yeah, because I saw that instead of go to
prom. The crazies. Never watched it. It was good.
Um, I went to the people with the bags over their
head. No, that's the strangers Oh shit. Yeah,
the crazies. Well, this is the little thing after
a strange and insecure Weird what plane crash
an unusual toxic virus enters a farming town.
It basically turns people into like zombies and
weirdos It's decent. I liked it. I saw it with
my friends on their birthday. They're twins.
So same birthday Anywho, so those were some scary
things that happened in 2010. Do you want to
know about scary tornadoes in 2010? Go ahead.
Maximum rated tornado that year was a F4. Okay,
so just below the big boy. So there were 13 on
eight different days. 13 is a spooky number.
13 is a spooky number. 1 ,266 tornadoes in the
US. Wow. Fatalities in the US, 45. Elsewhere
in the world, 62 people were killed, 51 in China,
6 in Argentina, 3 in the Bahamas. Wow. And 1
in each Bangladesh and Germany. You wanna know
some shows that came out? Yeah. Victorious. I
know you like that. My Little Pony, Friendship
is Magic. I'm just like, hmm. Sister Wives. I
didn't watch it, but I wanted to talk about it.
My strange addiction came out. Oh my god. Yeah,
I literally the guy who or no, no, no. Okay.
I remember the one episode where the woman drank
bleach. Yes. And then the other woman ate her
couch. Okay, so And is my strange addiction the
guy who fucked his car? I don't know. Here's
the thing, I didn't watch very much of it, but
I want to talk about two things really quick.
One episode I am aware of is the one where the
lady eats ashes. She likes to eat cigarette ash
and etc. I never saw that one. So the only reason
I know about it, and this is one of those things
that are just stuck in my brain forever and I
say it a lot, they talked about it on an episode
of The Soup. with Joel McHale and they made fun
of her and they showed the clip of her eating
ashes and he's holding a bowl and it looks like
ashes and he's eating it and he goes, I miss
you, grandpa. And it's one of my like favorite
moments in the super so that explains why we're
so fucked up Did you know that Trisha Paytas
was on that? I'm sure she was she was addicted
to tanning. Yep As soon as you said it I remember
but yeah some of these when I was like looking
up to make sure that it was the same Episode
that I was thinking now for the soup thing the
first season some of the way the way they title
these episodes is insane I'm just gonna name
some of these from the first season. Please each
toilet paper slash blow -dryer One guy has an
addiction to toilet paper, one guy has an addiction
to blow dryers. I don't know. Eats Cleanser.
Hashtag, er, not hashtag, oh my god. Eats Cleanser
slash tanner. So that might be the - Oh, Trisha
Paytas was on episode two? This is three actually,
but it says her name's Samantha, so I don't know
if she gave herself a fake name or if this is
a different girl. I don't know that. Ventriloquist
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Yeah. Let's get to it. Today we're talking about
creepy, creepy things. Creepy! So I'm gonna let
you kick us off with some of your research. I
can look up scholarly articles and be smart.
Wow, an educational podcast? No, we're not. It's
in the disclaimer. Anyway, so yeah, tell us about
creepy things. Okay, so, um, with the scholarly
article that I had mentioned before, they were
studying, it was an international sample of 1341
individuals to an online survey. And this online
survey apparently was on Facebook. It mainly,
um, Perceive creepiness in individuals not necessarily
things Okay, so it says that males are perceived
as being more likely to be creepy well than females
and Females were more likely to associate sexual
threat with creepiness Well, yeah unusual nonverbal
behavior and characteristics associated with
unpredictability were also predictors of creepiness
okay as were some occupations and hobbies okay
the results are consistent with the hypothesis
that being creeped out is an evolved adaptive
emotional response to ambiguity ambiguity ambiguity
ambiguity. About the presence of threats that
enables us to maintain vigilance during times
of uncertainty I think that's fair like that
makes sense to me what I think about creep. Yeah,
it's not necessarily scary Yeah, cuz if something's
scary, I'm like I get the fuck out of here Yeah,
but if something just creeps me out it I'm not
immediately gonna like fight flight freeze. I'm
just gonna be like On edge a little bit. Yes.
And that ability to be on edge saves you in situations
where you should flee. Yeah, I think it preps
you to fight, flight, freeze, whatever your deal
is. Because if you don't get creeped out, then
you can't get scared and then something's wrong.
It's like the next level. Yeah. But yeah, I feel
like with creepy things, like I think about because
you know, I consume a lot of spooky content and
I'm desensitized to a lot. Yes, but I feel like
creepiness, I can't get desensitized to the things
that creep me out always kind of give me that
little. Yeah, like that little tingle in my spine.
It's just a little eerie like, yeah, I'm never
not gonna feel that. Yeah. When I'm like, whatever
one of my creepy things are. So then I looked
up at uncanny valley. Okay, so yeah, are these
now? Are these your creepy things? Or are these
you're just saying some top creepy things? I'm
just saying the research that I found about specifics.
Okay, so these are like, what what uncanny valley
is, and then I have like three examples of like
media. Okay, I say three, because we already
discussed one of them in our back in butt head.
In our back in time. I feel like uncanny valley
is it's creepy for everyone because it's a phenomenon.
Right. Yeah, so that makes sense. Yes. So but
the funny thing is, I didn't realize it was this
old is it was hypothesized that it originated
back in 1970. Wow. By Japanese roboticist, in
which he proposed that as human likeness increases
in an object design, so does one's affinity for
the object, but only to a certain point. When
the likeness nears total accuracy, affinity drops
dramatically and is replaced by a feeling of
eeriness or uncanniness. Affinity then decreases
and increase caused by the feeling of uncanniness
creates a valley in the level of affinity. That
makes sense. So like this is why I think dolls
creep people out. Yes, like a Barbie doll doesn't
creep me out cuz a Barbie doll doesn't look like
a person No, but like I actually have in my things
that creep me out dolls. Okay, but like that's
my specific old dolls Yeah, like the old porcelain
ones. Yes. Yuck. Yeah My meemaw bought me like
a case of like a case like three or four of them
when I was a kid They stayed in the basement.
They were all like different cultures and stuff.
I think she was trying to be nice because I liked
learning about different cultures when I was
a little kid. And now but like, but I was like,
these are horrifying. Absolutely not. We got
rid of them when my mom when we had like her
moving sale the last time she moved. Yeah. And
yeah, I was like, if you don't sell these, burn
them. I don't not carry these around anymore.
I think the things that creep me out are more
associated with the horror films. that's fair
we'll get into it yeah um but anyways back to
uncanny yeah sorry that was just my deviation
no you said that i was like dolls um so originally
the term was a Japanese phrase that was translated
at roughly to uncanny valley in 1978. Although
the original essay focused on robot design, it
term is now widely applied and can describe a
reaction to any humanoid object, including wax
figures, because that can get kind of weird.
So it was actually it had very little attention
outside Japan until 2005, when the essay was
translated to English, the more realistic. Yeah,
like Big Bird doesn't scare anybody. But some
of those ones that are supposed to be people.
Yeah. I don't want to look at it too long. Because
it's, I don't want to say it scares me. But again,
it just makes me feel like I'm gonna vom. Yeah.
So the the three ones that I have, well, there's
a couple robots that are out more recently that
look super realistic and make facial expressions.
There's a robot. There's a robot. What's her
name? I forget. But I know what you're talking
about. She looks like Jenna Marbles. She does
it. But they made all these videos. Sophia, Sophia,
the robot. That's it. Yeah, it's that's uncanny.
Yeah, she's so realistic. Yeah. Polar Express.
Why? Why people don't like Polar Express is because
of like there have been times like I love Polar
Express. I think it's terrifying. But there are
times where I'm sitting there watching this.
And I'm like, stop. Yeah, I'm just like, I for
a second thought it was live action. Yeah, hate
it. Hate it. Hate it. The original animation
of Sonic the Hedgehog. Yeah, I've seen it. I've
seen it so bad. It's gross. I'm so glad we bullied
them. Yeah, like us as a people. Good job, everyone
to bully them into making Sonic the Hedgehog
cartoonish. The movie Cats. Oh, yeah, that one.
That was so... It was just, and it was underscored
by how terrible it was. Oh, yeah, I can't. I
refused to watch it after. You know how they're
making Rugrats with CGI babies. Yeah, why the
flick player from why the flick send that to
our Instagram? She was like, oh my god. Did you
guys see this? I did not see that Yeah, I was
like, oh my god gross because they're CGI and
she was like, I didn't even notice that Oh, no,
and the thing that what makes me really sad about
just animation in general nowadays Like CGI used
to be like really good. Yeah, and now it's getting
really bad I think it's they're trying too hard
to make everything realistic. Just draw Just
draw! I don't understand why animated movies
have to all be - I know I sound like a boomer
and I'm sorry, but like, just draw pictures!
I mean, not everything has to be uncanny valley,
CGI, just animated is fine. And if you can't
make a movie without remaking a movie and trying
to make it hip and cutting edge by making it
CGI, maybe you shouldn't remake the fucking movie.
Like Lion King? Zoo Tycoon. I don't know. Yeah,
it's just like it's getting weirder because they
look weird. They look too lifelike. It's not
it's not accomplishing what you think it is.
Draw a fucking picture. You know, there's a reason.
Everybody shows their kids Cinderella. They just
drew that bitch and animated it. Yeah, that's
fine. Yeah. That's another and Kenny on Kenny
Valley Valley animation Monster House. Oh, yeah,
I saw that. It scared my cousin to death. It's
such a weird animation. Yeah, I really liked
it though. I don't think I've watched it. I need
to watch it. I remember watching it with my aunt
and like my cousin who's like 10 years younger
than me. But I thought it was cool. But it was
kind of creepy. Yeah, it has that strain. It's
like, I want to say a raw animation. But yeah,
but it's not super polished. No. And I think
that's what makes it and kind of goes into that
uneasy type of feeling of animation. Hey, thanks
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Now back to the show. Okay, so now we're going
to talk about what creeps us out. Yes. Courtney,
kick us off and I'll jump in. Spiders. But I
think it's more of a phobia. But I think what
I hate most about spiders are their legs. I hate
it. How they crawl. I feel them. This is a phobia.
This isn't creeped out. This is a phobia. I hate
it so much, I hate it. Yeah, okay, phobia, but
it also creeps me out. Old dolls, we just mentioned
that. I think because of the movies that I watch
and that they are possessed a lot of the times,
I think that is why that they creep me out because
I'm just that eerie feeling of like, are you
watching me? See, they creep me out too, but
I would say it's more of the uncanny valley thing
because the more they look like a person and
the bigger they are and stuff, the worse they
are for me. Um, because I had like, hordes of
Barbie dolls, and I was never afraid of them.
Yeah, I never I had so many Barbie dolls. But
like, those big porcelain ones. Yeah, like even
I liked American Girl and stuff. I never had
an American Girl doll. I had one of the baby
dolls. But like, my sister had an American Girl
doll. Yeah, but even then when I was like, would
see them. If I had like a friend who actually
had one of those, they did creep me out a little
bit in person. Yeah, I was a little glad that
I didn't get one after I had like a friend in
I don't know, elementary school or something
that actually had one. See, I was scared. I was
never creeped out by American Girl Dolls. I still
felt felt them as like, like normal. Like, okay.
Yeah. Yeah. It's just something about those like
porcelain old timey, especially when they're
like, they they're all messed up. Yeah, and they're
more creepy. The older they are the stain. Like,
if something's like rubbed off a little bit,
maybe they're cracked. Yeah, that's when it gets
creepy. You and me both, bitch. But like my you
would have hated one of my aunts had one I think
my meemaw got this for her. It was a Diana Princess
Diana in like the wedding dress. It was huge.
It was like big enough to sit in a chair by itself
like a big rocking chair in their spare room.
And it's eyes, because they made it look like
Diana's eyes. And she had those big blue eyes,
you know, I hated that fucking thing. I hated
that doll. I love you, Diana. RIP. But that doll
because I would sleep in there when I was like,
I hated it. And she was in that chair. And sometimes
in the dark, it was like, is the chair moving?
You know? See that that prompts my next one.
Go ahead. Okay, so this I specifically wrote.
um, the sound of a creaky swing, but it also
goes along with like a chair, a rocking chair.
Yeah. Just that like menacing, like I got, I
got some different ones. Okay. So like one of
mine that just, this is just a concept that freaks
me out. Okay. Being lost at sea. Not that I would
get lost at sea. I'm not afraid of getting lost
at sea. You understand, but just the idea that
people get lost at sea. and are never recovered
and are just out there. Oh, they died. Yeah,
but like, so they're fine now. It's just scary.
It's so scary to me that I saw this. I'm trying
to find like the statistic that I that made me
think to talk about this. But like, there's a
certain number of people every year, and it's
a few hundred, I think. And that's just horrifying
to me. Like, what do you mean? Like, where'd
they go? How'd they get lost? I understand they
die. But like, Why can't we just say they're
caught in a joke? What the fuck? Just it creeps
me out. I'm not afraid of anything, but it makes
me yuck. Like when I heard that fact, I wanted
to throw up. Okay. Because where are they? Why
can't they be found? Yeah, like okay, Billy drowned
at sea. Sure, but they're not saying that. They're
just saying Billy's gone. What the fuck happened?
I don't know. And maybe that goes into Bermuda
Triangle shit, because that also creeps me out
a little bit. It's a creepy phenomenon. Yeah,
like, where do they go? Where do they go? Where
did that wine airplane go? Yeah, that stuff.
Yeah, the vanishing thing is a little scary.
And I think the lost at sea thing for some reason
is extra creepy for me. So that's definitely
one of mine. Also mirrors. Is it because of Bloody
Mary? No, I thought you were gonna say is it
because of how you look in those like that would
have been a sick burn. No, I would never say
that to you. It would have been good. It would
have been funny. It would have been good. But
I don't want to say that. Okay. Well, I was thinking
Bloody Mary. But no, I don't know. Well, I think
ghosts can come through mirrors. I've heard that
that like, go like mirrors can be a portal for
ghosts. But I don't know how much I really believe
that. I don't I don't like mirrors. I don't I
find them creepy. If there are too many mirrors
around. So you don't go into mirror mazes. Absolutely
not. This is why but I think I can't be alone
because this is why there are like mirrors, those
rooms of mirrors in like a fun house or whatever.
Because it has to creep people out. Yeah. But
yeah, it's just like my mom always had a bunch
of mirrors up in the house. And I just you know,
that thing where you look up and you're like,
what if there's somebody else? Yeah, it's like
that all the time. Oculus? Sure. But no mirrors
are just again, I'm not like no mirrors ever
scared to death. But if there are a lot of mirrors
around I get a little creeped out or if I like
Walk pat like if I'm home alone and I like walk
past the bathroom mirror or like it's dark and
I I just catch like a glimpse and I just am like
What are some more yours children Wow Okay, there's
yeah, you gotta get I gotta get specific with
that. Okay, so um a child laughter Okay Some
people find that sweet. No, it's menacing. I
don't like it. I think it's creepy But also think
about being pregnant and Just your whole body
Just moves all of your organs just move out of
the way and like that's creepy Right. Yeah, I
guess that's disgusting Okay, it's creepy. But
also the fact that like a baby just like is there
and that's also is where just like if someone
had a baby and it like it just is there and i
just don't like it i mean you use a proper fucking
now i can't explain it like inside them or like
outside outside outside babies babies existing
babies existing are creepy okay um because like
they just like can't communicate with you But
especially a child's laughter. That is what is
menacing, that is what I don't like. So you don't
like when they can't communicate and you don't
like when they can? Well no, laughter, they're
not speaking words to me, they're just giggling
and I don't like it. Okay, but a child laugh,
they could tell you why they're laughing. That's
true. I mean, I'm not a big fan of kids and they
do scare me in scary movies, but I wouldn't say
they like creep me out all the time. But also,
they're the ones most likely to be possessed,
you know? Well, yeah. So like, just creepy, the
creep factor is children. Lincoln all scary movies
if there's a child in that movie that child is
creepy that child is scary. I can see what you're
saying in the way of like when I think about
creepy things like I said it's just things that
make me a little on edge and I think about okay
if I just saw something randomly would it creep
me out and I guess all random kid just standing
and I mean I don't mean like crying and like
I can't find my mom like that's different but
just calm and standing there across the way like
in a field. that would be scary. Yes, that would
be creepy. Also, if a man was standing there,
that would also that would be creepy. I also
on my list, honestly, if anyone was just standing
there creepy, like it's just creepy. That's creepy.
Yeah. Because it's funny you say that because
on my list, I have children, men and then people
all valid points for all different reasons. Yeah,
you know, I've got I've got another one that's
people driven. Okay. And I think this is pretty
personalized. It really creeps me out to the
point of like physical sickness when adults behave
like children. And I don't mean like baby talk
and stuff like to a baby or a dog or like that's
fine. I mean like actually act childlike. Yeah,
I find that horrific. I mean people who are fully
of their faculties, you know, and do that by
choice. um it makes me like sick it like i can't
even talk about it without i hate it i think
some of that is for personal reasons um personal
things i've experienced that um yeah that's one
for sure for me that's very people behavior driven
yeah you're talking about i just yuck you know
fucking stop it don't do that yeah like because
because why why are you doing that So I actually
had this conversation with someone okay, um that
a Person who grew up in a situation where they
were not? paid attention to okay, or the favorite,
okay, um will grow up and have a family and then
be Become the favorite So like they will treat
as they are the ones to be paid attention to.
Because their lack of in their childhood, they
did not get that. So just narcissists? Yeah,
I guess so. Okay. I mean, I could see how this
like what I'm saying could be like a behavior
that gets you attention. But I don't know. To
me, it feels it feels gross. It feels like it
could very potentially be grooming. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's sort of the shit I'm like. I think
that's what I'm associating it with. I'm not
saying that's what everybody's doing, but it's
like, just... no. Mm -mm. Don't like that. Yeah.
Don't like that. Do you have any others? Um,
I put my sleep paralysis demons. Well, that.
I wouldn't necessarily... I would definitely
say creepy. Yeah, I guess so. Like, if I think
about them, I don't get, like, scared to death.
No. But it does creep me out if I think about
it. That it happens. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the
moment when I can't wake up, scared. Horrified.
Um, but as I'm thinking about them specifically,
I'm just like, I can't believe that happens.
Yeah. And it's like, what's wrong with me? Um,
it's I didn't put this on my list, but getting
an MRI. Huh, really? Have you had an MRI? Yeah,
I've had them. It just I think like I'm not claustrophobic
at all. Yeah, I kind of am, but they don't fuck
me up. I don't care about, like being in confined
spaces or anything like that, like bury me out.
I don't fucking care. Bury me right now. But
when I got into the MRI machine for the first
time, yeah, I was creeped out a little bit. Okay.
Why do you think that is though? I think so like
for me, like I'm not huge by any means, like,
yeah, but like, I would say, but so like, when
I was in there, I was thinking to myself, if
I was any bigger, I'd be stuck, I would be stuck.
So that, I guess that just that thought process
in my head is what creeped me out. Okay, like
I was fine after like a second. Yeah, but just
like getting in there. I'm just like, oh shit
fine So do you think it's the idea of being trapped
more than anything else? But like I'm not claustrophobic.
That's the thing though See, I kind of am but
MRIs and like cat scans and stuff. Don't scare
me like that. I don't know why I've had so many
Yeah, like that first initial like going into
it. I was like, oh I can see why people who are
claustrophobic. Yeah feel in this situation Yeah,
it could be a little bit I know one for me that
is gonna sound stupid, especially considering
the home I live in. Stairs. This is the person
with like five sets of stairs. That's literally
what I just said. It's not just stairs, like
just like my stairs in my house, but like a long
stairwell, or like a really like where you can't
really see the top. Okay. Or a really enclosed
stairwell or even like a spiral staircase. I
think spiral staircases are cool. I'm not saying
they're not cool, but they creep me out a little
bit. And I think like, have you ever heard of
that phenomenon? Stairs in the woods? Yes. So
like that kind of thing, right? Because like
just stairs? I don't know. Didn't we do that?
Didn't we talk about stairs in the woods? No,
we did not. I remember because I think I was
going to talk about it and we ran out of time.
I kept it in. But yeah, the stairs in the woods
thing that creeps me out. But then just that
like, I think remember when we talked about the
Winchester house. Yes, and I was real they just
have stairwells to nothing and I was like gonna
throw up Yeah, you're right. You were freaking
out just it's weird to me. It makes me feel like
what the fuck is going on with the stairs Yeah,
I don't know. There's just something about not
being able to see where you're going. I don't
know I can't explain it which is why there's
something that creeps me out Yeah, but just stairs
like to nothing or to where I don't know they
it's creepy to me I was thinking about like something
that I think it just happens in like phones and
videos because like the frame rate and stuff.
But when you see planes and videos that don't
move, or like birds and videos that don't move,
like I know it's the frame rate. I know it's
like it's not actually birds are real. Birds
are part of the bourgeoisie. Um, that creeps
me out. Yeah, like I, I in my head, I know of
why that's a thing or like when you see a helicopter,
but it doesn't look like it's spinning. Yeah.
That creeps me out. Yeah, just that initial.
Yeah, sensation. Yeah, is like gross. I get it.
Yeah. Yeah, I can see that one that's more atmospheric
and this for the last one. I'll say I guess but
the because everybody knows mermaids. Speaking
of loss at sea. That's why I'm so scared of that
because I'm afraid the mermaids got maybe mermaid
man and barnacle boy one year. Sure. But no,
one of the things it's more like atmospheric
is being awake. period. Yeah, that's so creepy.
As I was saying, it's actually funny I said that
because it was it's not one that I wrote down.
Yeah. But it was when I read about just being
alive. And what is what is the purpose? Yeah.
Why are we here? existential dreads creepy. But
no, I was gonna say, being awake, like in the
super early morning, like, like, three, four,
five. And I don't mean like up all night. Right?
I mean, like you're awake. and you can't really
go back to sleep. And it's not quite light outside,
but it's not quite dark. And you feel like no
one else is awake in the world. It's just it's
scary. I feel like the few times that I've been
or even if I've been up all night, but it gets
to that time, you'd think you'd feel better.
I feel worse. Like, well, I think I get creeped
out like if I wake up at like the same time.
Yeah. like it's called like the witching hour
is like three. Yeah, like 3am I think is the
witching hour. So like when you wake up at that
time, like I get the like, yeah, see, I think
more I'm saying like, a little bit later, like
four, even into five, sometimes depending on
it's just like, it just feels like you're not
supposed to be up and you feel like really alone
comes from the person who works normal. job time
and not overnight, which Mike did. So he was
up at five o 'clock in the morning. I've worked
overnight a lot in my life. I've worked every
shift you can work, dude. I'm more comfortable
at night. But when it gets to like that precipice
of like night, day, morning, morning, yeah, it
just something about it feels eerie. Like If
you look outside the wind, it just feels weird.
There's fog. Yes, it's just there's something
about it that feels off. And I don't love it.
I think I think because I was reading some stuff
like people are talking about like the open ocean
with that like at night. Yeah. But that is my
favorite time when I'm on like a cruise ship.
Yeah, I can't I don't know is at night like when
You can't see anything and it's just black and
you feel the wind in your hair and it's quiet
and there's nothing around you. It's the most
calm that I have ever been. Until you hit the
iceberg. But like that creeps people out. But
I have never been more calm. Maybe I'm fucked
up. Who knows we know you're fucked up. That's
why we do the show together. Um, no, I don't
think because that's the thing about the lost
at sea thing that I don't understand why it freaks
me out. Because I'm not afraid of like the open
ocean. Yeah, I've never been on like a cruise
ship. So I don't guess I don't know. But the
concept doesn't scare me. And I don't think that
would scare me like being on a boat at night
and at night. But yeah, I don't think that would
scare me doesn't sound scary. But for some reason.
Just the concept of being lost at sea and that
people that happens. I think people in general
like just being Just disappear vanishing. Yeah.
Yeah weird. It's weird. It's weird Well speaking
of weird things you said you wanted to go out
with some some reddit post. Let's so this is
reddit It's r slash scary stories. Okay, now
I don't know that we can read these verbatim.
So just know it's not stories, but it's just
specifics. Okay, specific things that creep people
out. So the post was what is something that creeps
you out, but it seems normal for the rest of
people. Okay. So this person said a clown waving
with just their fingers. Totally clown period
and clown period. See, I don't care. Fuck off.
There's a skeleton in your body right now. Yeah,
I like him. Yeah, but someone also said, and
our brain is just meat with electricity. I've
heard that before. That doesn't creep me out.
Um... Snakes, because they can swim, climb trees,
and can be really fast, and they have no legs.
Wait a minute. Wait a minute. They can climb
trees? Yeah. They slither up the trees. I didn't
know that. Yeah, they can slither up things.
I knew the big ones could. Yeah, all snakes.
But even... Okay. I'm still not afraid of snakes,
but that makes me... What if they just jump out
of the tree onto you? Have you never seen snakes
jumping out of trees? No, where the fuck would
I see that, Courtney? Google it. No. Not now.
This is funny. People that don't wash their legs.
The type of people that just let the soapy water
run down their bodies and say it's clean. Dude,
I'm gonna say something right now. People that
don't use like a washcloth or a loofah or something.
They just raw dog the bar of soap. Yeah, what
the fuck? That has never been my reality. Like,
we always used washcloths or loofahs or sponges
or something. Yeah. What the fuck? I don't use
a bar of soap, for one, because I don't like
how it makes me feel. Yeah, and they can dry
you out. But when I was back in the earlier 2000s
of the 90s, when it was like you used a bar of
soap, probably - Irish Spring! Yeah, we had a
fuckton of that. We had a - at least a washcloth
yeah like oh and you would rub it on the washcloth
and then get sudsy and use your body yeah i who's
doing this i don't know who is it because like
lufas are like two dollars fucking come on clean
yourself jesus christ it's not leather and i'm
not clean yeah what yeah uh but the legs thing
i wouldn't say creeps me out but it makes me
question you as a human yeah same with like is
it like feet Yeah, wash your feet wash your feet.
Um, we have to work until retirement. This actually
goes into what I said being pregnant and slowly
getting bigger and stretching as the baby grows
inside of you. I will say though, after you we
were talking about because you're saying a lot
of things at once that was like, Whoa, but but
it is kind of when I think about it coming out.
It's it's a little scary that it could just like
rip you open. No, but like also see sections
now I'm not opposed I think it in some ways I'm
like, that sounds great. Talk me out wake up.
It's done. You're not sleeping. They can do it.
But you know, they take your organs out and put
them in your balls. And then Because your organs
moved! I know, but that's spooky to me, because
I don't know why I saw that the baby would just
be like... Up there? Yeah. Ready to come out
of the stomach? I didn't think it'd be like you
get a paper cut and its hand comes out, but I
thought you wouldn't have to move a bunch of
shit. Yeah, you have to move a bunch of shit,
man. I don't know about that, you know? Anyways,
go on. Cotton balls. I get it. I don't like cotton...
Stop! No, I don't like cotton balls at all! I
don't know who's read it, but maybe I should
find that guy and make a club. No, I hate it.
So the person I remember I didn't write this
like I didn't copy and paste this down. But I
remember that this person wrote not necessarily
the ball itself sound ripping it apart. My guttural
reaction. No, it's true. And the sound it makes
and how it feels on your fingers. I always thought
this was my OCD. But because I have a thing about
textures, but like, No, I have to use like cotton
rounds. They're like, yeah, I can't buy cotton
balls. Oh, we have cotton balls at home. Don't
bring them here. Um, so this person put the second
law of thermodynamics. I'm sorry, I'm not familiar.
So the state of entropy of the entire universe
as an isolated system will always increase over
time. So that concept means that the world around
us, the universe itself, is inexplorably decaying.
Alright, hit me with one more. Banger Courtney,
what's the creepiest one on your little reddit?
I don't know if I should say this to you because
of your AC say it I don't care. Okay, I'll throw
up There are tiny mites that live in your eyelashes.
I'm aware of this. I pull my hair out They can't
they can't get me. Okay, I'm kidding. That's
not why I do it. They're called demodop demodix
But also the last one jello They said, I don't
know why, it's the way it shakes, I guess. Literally
what they said, jello dot dot dot. Doesn't scare
me. The one that creeped me out the most was
the eyelash mites. No, that doesn't creep me
out. I'm aware, because of my OCD, I've done
a deep dive on everything that can be on your
skin and in your hair, and I'm very aware of
it, and it's fine, we coexist. It was the second
law of thermodynamics for me. No, for me it's
the cotton balls. Just know that I am understanding.
I will not go into it. But yes, Google snakes
jumping out of trees. No, I'm not gonna do that,
Courtney. Why would I do that? Why would I scare
myself more? Just slither a little, snake -snake.
Well, those are some things that creep us out.
Give us the willies, if you will. I'm a creep.
I'm a weirdo. What the hell am I doing here?
I don't belong here. Well, you do belong here
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