WEBVTT 00:00:00.110 --> 00:00:03.270 Hey everyone, I'm Vince. And I'm Emily. And you're 00:00:03.270 --> 00:00:14.970 listening to The Lighthouse Lowdown. Welcome 00:00:14.970 --> 00:00:18.510 to a three -year anniversary. Oh, for some reason 00:00:18.510 --> 00:00:20.510 I thought you were going to say three -hour episode. 00:00:21.050 --> 00:00:26.039 Oh, for some reason. Vincent gets a chance every 00:00:26.039 --> 00:00:28.260 now and then to record an episode and Emily's 00:00:28.260 --> 00:00:30.600 like, oh, it's going to be three hours. That 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:34.119 was one time and it was four hours. Oh my gosh. 00:00:34.299 --> 00:00:37.179 Three and a half. So welcome to the show. We've 00:00:37.179 --> 00:00:40.539 been doing this for three years. Cheers. Cheers. 00:00:41.240 --> 00:00:48.520 Let me. Yeah. Thank you. Three years started 00:00:48.520 --> 00:00:51.479 in 2022. This is the three year anniversary of. 00:00:53.779 --> 00:00:57.219 us posting our first episode. Awesome. Obviously, 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.859 we were active before that. And today's the recording 00:01:00.859 --> 00:01:03.579 date, so this will air after that. Oh, that's 00:01:03.579 --> 00:01:05.099 right. But, you know, everybody, they're here 00:01:05.099 --> 00:01:08.140 in spirit. Same spirit. So, yeah. So let's just 00:01:08.140 --> 00:01:12.579 get into it. Okay. Today, risking life and limb, 00:01:12.819 --> 00:01:16.439 the dangerous lives of lighthouse keepers. Is 00:01:16.439 --> 00:01:18.519 this a history movie or an episode? This is the 00:01:18.519 --> 00:01:21.629 episode title. Okay. Is there a history buoy? 00:01:21.790 --> 00:01:23.790 There is a history buoy, of course. Hold on to 00:01:23.790 --> 00:01:27.549 your pants. History buoy of the day. Folklore. 00:01:27.969 --> 00:01:34.170 Yeah, this is my clip art. So this is my clip 00:01:34.170 --> 00:01:37.269 art. The history buoy of today. Got to settle 00:01:37.269 --> 00:01:41.870 in. It's folklore. So I found several articles 00:01:41.870 --> 00:01:46.290 for today's purposes. One of the articles I'm 00:01:46.290 --> 00:01:49.250 going to cite is about folklore regarding carrying 00:01:49.250 --> 00:01:54.609 fuel oil and lighthouse keepers. Okay. So we're 00:01:54.609 --> 00:01:56.909 going to, you know, I'm going to flashback. We're 00:01:56.909 --> 00:02:01.409 going to talk about the lives and deaths of lighthouse 00:02:01.409 --> 00:02:06.489 keepers. We are. In honorable fashion? Yes. We 00:02:06.489 --> 00:02:08.750 have to make sure that we're in memoriam because 00:02:08.750 --> 00:02:10.689 these are facts and these are real people. These 00:02:10.689 --> 00:02:13.689 are real stories. Yes. Okay. But we'll also. 00:02:14.300 --> 00:02:15.819 Have a little fun. Have some fun. We'll have 00:02:15.819 --> 00:02:18.379 a little fun. You know they had some fun. And 00:02:18.379 --> 00:02:20.479 then also we're going to talk not just death, 00:02:20.599 --> 00:02:23.960 but also danger, right? We're going to do a pre 00:02:23.960 --> 00:02:28.139 -task analysis. They go hand in hand. Yeah. Okay, 00:02:28.259 --> 00:02:32.020 so for today, our history buoy is lighthouse, 00:02:32.139 --> 00:02:35.680 oil myths, and folklore regarding carrying fuel 00:02:35.680 --> 00:02:39.159 oil. Funny that there's folklore about carrying 00:02:39.159 --> 00:02:42.530 oil. Yeah. Folklore. Well, what do you think? 00:02:42.569 --> 00:02:44.449 What comes to mind when I talk about carrying 00:02:44.449 --> 00:02:47.629 fuel oil? I think about their five -gallon jugs 00:02:47.629 --> 00:02:49.349 that they had to take up and down the stairs. 00:02:50.169 --> 00:02:52.110 Yeah. They'd refill it at the bottom and bring 00:02:52.110 --> 00:02:56.770 it to the top. That's all I got. Yep. Well, you're 00:02:56.770 --> 00:03:01.530 correct. I am correct. You're correct. It's not 00:03:01.530 --> 00:03:03.590 folklore that they use five -gallon buckets. 00:03:04.669 --> 00:03:07.229 They had different names instead of bucket, but 00:03:07.229 --> 00:03:09.250 bucket is also one of the things, so that's what 00:03:09.250 --> 00:03:13.110 I will say. But five gallons was the standard 00:03:13.110 --> 00:03:16.370 measurement. They did have different sizes. Of 00:03:16.370 --> 00:03:18.930 course, when it became United States Lighthouse 00:03:18.930 --> 00:03:23.009 Establishment. That was the first one. Then Bored. 00:03:23.069 --> 00:03:25.830 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So when it became militarized, 00:03:25.909 --> 00:03:28.990 it was more standard. Okay. And of course, there 00:03:28.990 --> 00:03:31.530 are lighthouses all over the world. But five 00:03:31.530 --> 00:03:35.389 gallons was generally the unit. And of course, 00:03:35.409 --> 00:03:37.889 it started with whale oil, went through several 00:03:37.889 --> 00:03:40.680 different fuels, and then kerosene. was like 00:03:40.680 --> 00:03:43.039 the last most popular fuel before electrification. 00:03:43.659 --> 00:03:47.280 So fuel oil, we'll call it, was stored either 00:03:47.280 --> 00:03:49.360 in the tower, which we've seen some of those 00:03:49.360 --> 00:03:51.960 containers, usually they're, actually, not usually, 00:03:52.039 --> 00:03:55.479 some of them are well -kept and historically 00:03:55.479 --> 00:03:58.580 preserved. Yeah. Where did we see one? We've 00:03:58.580 --> 00:04:00.900 seen a couple. Ocracoke had one sitting in there. 00:04:01.759 --> 00:04:05.979 I thought we saw one at Cape Cod. I don't remember 00:04:05.979 --> 00:04:09.000 which lighthouse. They're kind of ornate. They 00:04:09.000 --> 00:04:11.000 look a little bit, to me, like the Stanley Cup. 00:04:13.419 --> 00:04:15.419 Stanley Cup. But, you know, they're typically, 00:04:15.580 --> 00:04:19.120 they're cylindrical, they're banded, and I'm 00:04:19.120 --> 00:04:23.040 guessing stainless steel. Try not to make it 00:04:23.040 --> 00:04:25.560 rust, right? So it's material that's shiny. Or 00:04:25.560 --> 00:04:28.500 at least coated in some fashion. Yeah, so they 00:04:28.500 --> 00:04:30.959 store the fuel oil either in the tower, in that, 00:04:31.040 --> 00:04:34.199 I'm going to call it a day tank, because in our 00:04:34.199 --> 00:04:37.889 industry... Emily and I both work in engineering. 00:04:38.089 --> 00:04:41.410 We design industrial projects. Often the term 00:04:41.410 --> 00:04:43.970 used for fuel that's going to be burned within 00:04:43.970 --> 00:04:47.290 one day or equivalent to a day or so is called 00:04:47.290 --> 00:04:50.750 a day tank. So that's a little bit of a broad 00:04:50.750 --> 00:04:51.970 stroke, but that's what I'll call it. The day 00:04:51.970 --> 00:04:54.490 tank is either in the tower or the permanent, 00:04:54.569 --> 00:04:59.589 more larger collection of fuel is in an oil house. 00:04:59.910 --> 00:05:02.430 And there are many oil houses. And if you were 00:05:02.430 --> 00:05:06.819 to look at our... lighthouse low down design, 00:05:07.779 --> 00:05:10.300 which is now on screen. You could argue that 00:05:10.300 --> 00:05:13.220 that is a lighthouse keeper's home next to the 00:05:13.220 --> 00:05:16.980 tower. It could be a fuel oil storage. What did 00:05:16.980 --> 00:05:19.720 you have in mind when you drew that? More like, 00:05:19.899 --> 00:05:23.920 see the oil house is never that close to a lighthouse 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.000 because if it blows up, you don't want it to 00:05:26.000 --> 00:05:29.079 damage the lighthouse. So it's usually a good 00:05:29.079 --> 00:05:33.550 distance away just in case. So snuggled up like 00:05:33.550 --> 00:05:36.790 that, I would definitely say either the Keeper's 00:05:36.790 --> 00:05:41.269 House or like Body Island has that little house 00:05:41.269 --> 00:05:44.449 in front that's connected to the tower by a little 00:05:44.449 --> 00:05:48.509 run or like Curituck. Yeah. So that's kind of 00:05:48.509 --> 00:05:50.230 what I had in mind, actually. Well, a little 00:05:50.230 --> 00:05:54.550 side on our logo. Yeah. We went to Wood End Lighthouse. 00:05:54.689 --> 00:05:57.930 Yes. Out on Cape Cod by Provincetown, which is 00:05:57.930 --> 00:05:59.649 a whole fun story. If you don't know that story, 00:05:59.930 --> 00:06:02.389 please go watch the episode. You will not be 00:06:02.389 --> 00:06:06.769 disappointed. What did we call it? Cape Cod Plog. 00:06:07.230 --> 00:06:11.750 Yeah, Provincetown. But I took a photo of the 00:06:11.750 --> 00:06:14.529 oil house and tower in the same orientation as 00:06:14.529 --> 00:06:16.649 our logo. Oh, did you really? Because I had our 00:06:16.649 --> 00:06:20.490 newly made hats. And so anyways, I'll show that 00:06:20.490 --> 00:06:23.970 now. Vincent, insert here. I haven't seen this 00:06:23.970 --> 00:06:26.110 picture. I'll show it to you. Or maybe I just 00:06:26.110 --> 00:06:28.610 haven't seen it with the correct lens. Didn't 00:06:28.610 --> 00:06:31.879 catch your eye. Yeah. So we got oil. Right? Yes. 00:06:32.720 --> 00:06:36.600 Some of the myths are surrounding how much oil 00:06:36.600 --> 00:06:39.600 was used. So how often lighthouse keepers were 00:06:39.600 --> 00:06:43.000 hauling oil and how heavy it was and so on. So 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:44.319 that's what we're going to talk about for a minute. 00:06:44.480 --> 00:06:47.139 Okay. So the folklore, one of the statements 00:06:47.139 --> 00:06:50.959 was if you look at keepers historically in photos, 00:06:51.160 --> 00:06:54.339 right, they're wearing typically black uniforms, 00:06:54.660 --> 00:06:57.819 a cap, and they're standing, they're posing because 00:06:57.819 --> 00:07:00.769 it's the 1800s. because it's the 1900s, they're 00:07:00.769 --> 00:07:03.730 posing a little turned, looking at the camera. 00:07:04.170 --> 00:07:07.310 And the folklore is they did that because they 00:07:07.310 --> 00:07:10.350 wanted to hide their arm. They had a preferred 00:07:10.350 --> 00:07:13.250 dominant, usually carrying arm, that would become 00:07:13.250 --> 00:07:16.509 so muscular that they didn't want it to be in 00:07:16.509 --> 00:07:22.709 the photo. So I found a photo to look at. No. 00:07:23.490 --> 00:07:31.569 This looks like AI. Thank you for that. So this 00:07:31.569 --> 00:07:35.569 is AI, and I use chat GPT. You're the worst. 00:07:35.889 --> 00:07:38.089 I asked for a prompt. My prompt was, show me 00:07:38.089 --> 00:07:42.029 a lighthouse keeper in an official 1800s uniform, 00:07:42.170 --> 00:07:45.189 which is his more or less kind of clothes. Good 00:07:45.189 --> 00:07:46.790 for AI. It's just a trench coat. And then I said, 00:07:46.810 --> 00:07:50.709 now give him one very muscular arm with no sleeve. 00:07:52.589 --> 00:07:55.350 You'll also notice as I flash between these two, 00:07:55.410 --> 00:07:58.250 they made him, his beard gets trimmed. See that? 00:07:58.639 --> 00:08:01.240 It's like his whole face firms up. Yeah. And 00:08:01.240 --> 00:08:03.100 they also took away his underclothes. Yeah, he 00:08:03.100 --> 00:08:05.779 gets a little harder. He's like, I have nothing 00:08:05.779 --> 00:08:07.819 on under my coat. And the light goes out for 00:08:07.819 --> 00:08:10.100 some reason in the tower. Oh, no. Window moves. 00:08:10.399 --> 00:08:13.040 It was probably just rotating. So many of our 00:08:13.040 --> 00:08:16.279 viewers are boomers, I would say, and of the 00:08:16.279 --> 00:08:18.779 older generations. And I would ask you to be 00:08:18.779 --> 00:08:23.000 aware that AI can do things like this. You can't 00:08:23.000 --> 00:08:25.040 trust all the lighthouse things you see out there. 00:08:25.100 --> 00:08:28.420 Because AI has fixed the hand problem where they 00:08:28.420 --> 00:08:29.259 could not get hands correct. Yeah, the number 00:08:29.259 --> 00:08:31.439 of fingers. I hate that because it was such an 00:08:31.439 --> 00:08:33.360 easy way to tell if something was AI. Now it's 00:08:33.360 --> 00:08:36.399 like, it's kind of hard. Right. It could be an 00:08:36.399 --> 00:08:39.720 extremely clear photo that's edited too much 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:42.580 or it could be AI. You can't really tell. Yeah, 00:08:42.600 --> 00:08:45.759 there was some AI photo of a woman and a husband 00:08:45.759 --> 00:08:47.820 and I can't remember the backstory. There was 00:08:47.820 --> 00:08:50.629 some funny backstory. But clearly the women's 00:08:50.629 --> 00:08:54.710 bodice was modified in AI. And the comments were 00:08:54.710 --> 00:08:57.110 all about the man's three fingers. He would like 00:08:57.110 --> 00:08:59.629 his hand around his wife. Yeah. Three fingers. 00:09:00.889 --> 00:09:04.850 Anyways. So talking about, you know, they would 00:09:04.850 --> 00:09:06.710 hide their arm because it was overly muscular. 00:09:07.289 --> 00:09:10.190 That's not true. And they actually didn't have 00:09:10.190 --> 00:09:13.289 to haul that much oil. Now, a lot of our visits 00:09:13.289 --> 00:09:15.470 and people that we've talked to and stories that 00:09:15.470 --> 00:09:17.669 we hear online are focused around, oh, the labor 00:09:17.669 --> 00:09:21.100 of. hauling a bucket of oil all the way to the 00:09:21.100 --> 00:09:25.279 top of the tower that's real except uh it would 00:09:25.279 --> 00:09:29.179 usually be once every 24 hours yeah so the person 00:09:29.179 --> 00:09:30.700 who wrote this article and we have everything 00:09:30.700 --> 00:09:32.879 credited at the end but the person who wrote 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.740 this article said um for example this is written 00:09:36.740 --> 00:09:39.340 2024 so they said the longest night of this year 00:09:39.340 --> 00:09:43.200 2024 is tuesday december 21st and the length 00:09:43.200 --> 00:09:46.879 of no sunlight is 14 hours and 48 minutes. I 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:48.500 can't recall where they're at. I'm sure that 00:09:48.500 --> 00:09:51.139 would factor in. It's not get too deep. They 00:09:51.139 --> 00:09:54.259 said still using kerosene, which of course is 00:09:54.259 --> 00:09:58.740 more efficient of the fuel oils. And the quote 00:09:58.740 --> 00:10:02.019 is smarter people help me out. Let's say it's 00:10:02.019 --> 00:10:06.320 15 hours of lighted time for the tower, for the, 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.279 for the assembly. If that had 30 ounces of fuel 00:10:09.279 --> 00:10:13.039 is burned an hour on average for a five wick 00:10:13.039 --> 00:10:16.500 lamp. which is one of the larger, more fuel -consuming 00:10:16.500 --> 00:10:21.179 lamps for the application. The total use is 450 00:10:21.179 --> 00:10:24.399 ounces over a 15 -hour long night. So divide 00:10:24.399 --> 00:10:27.659 that by 128 ounces, which is one gallon. Gives 00:10:27.659 --> 00:10:29.899 us a little bit more than three and a half gallons 00:10:29.899 --> 00:10:32.139 of kerosene needed for the longest night of the 00:10:32.139 --> 00:10:36.620 year. So that's less than five gallons by a lot. 00:10:37.710 --> 00:10:39.809 One and a half gallons would still be left. That 00:10:39.809 --> 00:10:41.909 would be used in emergencies or to prepare the 00:10:41.909 --> 00:10:44.309 lamp for the next lighting in the morning. Okay. 00:10:44.450 --> 00:10:47.429 So you're not going to carry the fuel back down. 00:10:47.690 --> 00:10:51.350 True. You've already carried it up. So it's like 00:10:51.350 --> 00:10:56.350 a nice overage. So the myth was that they're 00:10:56.350 --> 00:10:58.669 carrying fuel all the time and every hour and 00:10:58.669 --> 00:11:01.210 up and down, and they're getting strong and hiding 00:11:01.210 --> 00:11:04.049 their arm. All this is built around the assumption 00:11:04.049 --> 00:11:05.750 that they were burning a ton of fuel oil, which 00:11:05.750 --> 00:11:09.500 was not accurate. Yeah. So there you go. Wow. 00:11:09.720 --> 00:11:12.759 History of the day. Maybe that used to be different. 00:11:12.820 --> 00:11:17.259 Like that's using kerosene, which is like a better 00:11:17.259 --> 00:11:19.899 fuel than in the past. So there's a chance that 00:11:19.899 --> 00:11:23.659 like well oil did have to do refill multiple 00:11:23.659 --> 00:11:27.000 times in a night or something, but we don't know. 00:11:27.120 --> 00:11:30.600 Yeah. Certainly wouldn't want make one arm significantly 00:11:30.600 --> 00:11:32.740 unless you're like doing curls with the bucket 00:11:32.740 --> 00:11:35.120 as you're going up. Make sure you get your 12 00:11:35.120 --> 00:11:38.879 reps in, four sets, eat your protein. Yeah. Thank 00:11:38.879 --> 00:11:41.279 you for indulging me on the Lighthouse Bowie. 00:11:41.340 --> 00:11:44.480 Thank you for that. So I've wanted to do this 00:11:44.480 --> 00:11:47.080 for a while. So again, the title, Risking Life 00:11:47.080 --> 00:11:50.080 and Limb, the Dangerous Lives of Lighthouse Keepers. 00:11:50.340 --> 00:11:53.440 This is episode 77. It's been three years. I 00:11:53.440 --> 00:11:56.799 thought about this about a year ago when I found 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:01.200 a website that is our favorite people, the USLHS. 00:12:01.929 --> 00:12:06.049 They have a page called In Memoriam, which is 00:12:06.049 --> 00:12:08.230 one of the many resources that they have. Oh, 00:12:08.230 --> 00:12:12.269 yes. I'll just read this. Many Lighthouse personnel 00:12:12.269 --> 00:12:14.889 crossed the bar due to natural causes of sickness 00:12:14.889 --> 00:12:18.110 or age. However, some Lighthouse personnel gave 00:12:18.110 --> 00:12:20.450 their lives for their country and service due 00:12:20.450 --> 00:12:23.710 to accidents, drownings, or even murder. Listed 00:12:23.710 --> 00:12:25.909 below is a memorial to those courageous members 00:12:25.909 --> 00:12:27.710 of the Lighthouse service who lost their lives 00:12:27.710 --> 00:12:30.190 during their service. and the time and manner 00:12:30.190 --> 00:12:33.929 in which the passing occurred, the society, USLHS, 00:12:34.169 --> 00:12:37.850 will be adding to this list as other personnel 00:12:37.850 --> 00:12:39.769 are found who gave their lives in such a manner. 00:12:40.629 --> 00:12:44.289 Okay. So, again, I wanted to say that now because 00:12:44.289 --> 00:12:46.509 I want to show some honor to these people. Yeah. 00:12:46.549 --> 00:12:51.610 But I use this table and develop some data around 00:12:51.610 --> 00:12:54.549 it. Okay. Just for a glimpse in. This is, of 00:12:54.549 --> 00:12:55.870 course, not going to capture. Like how likely 00:12:55.870 --> 00:12:59.299 you are to drown? As a lighthouse keeper? Exactly. 00:12:59.639 --> 00:13:05.159 Yes. 39 ways to die as a wiki. So there's 100 00:13:05.159 --> 00:13:07.940 ways to die in the West. What is this? 39 ways 00:13:07.940 --> 00:13:11.220 to die as a wiki. So on that page, I know there's 00:13:11.220 --> 00:13:13.019 a ton more data, but let's just isolate it to 00:13:13.019 --> 00:13:16.379 that page. There are 220 entries, okay? Can I 00:13:16.379 --> 00:13:20.840 say something? Please. It's funny that there's 00:13:20.840 --> 00:13:25.220 a lot of fell from, and sometimes they get really 00:13:25.220 --> 00:13:28.480 specific. You bet, yeah. Fall. Sometimes it just 00:13:28.480 --> 00:13:31.600 says fell. And then there's station vehicle plunge 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:36.740 down 60 foot embankment. And like, why are some 00:13:36.740 --> 00:13:38.960 so specific and some are just like, I don't know, 00:13:38.980 --> 00:13:42.620 he fell down. I think, so I'll get, I'll get, 00:13:42.659 --> 00:13:47.440 I analyze this. Okay. But I think it's because 00:13:47.440 --> 00:13:50.500 they had certain amount of details from Keeper's 00:13:50.500 --> 00:13:53.259 Logs and historical records. Yeah, if they just 00:13:53.259 --> 00:13:56.639 say like. you know, primary keeper fell. Yeah. 00:13:56.679 --> 00:13:59.580 He fell to his death. It's like, Oh, that sucks. 00:14:00.100 --> 00:14:04.200 How? Give me more details. Was he painting or 00:14:04.200 --> 00:14:07.120 did he get in a vehicle and it went down a 60 00:14:07.120 --> 00:14:09.720 foot embankment? It is a second one. Or was it 00:14:09.720 --> 00:14:13.759 a cliff? So again, it makes me chuckle. And I 00:14:13.759 --> 00:14:16.139 know someone actually died that way. So it's 00:14:16.139 --> 00:14:18.539 kind of a, I've been trying, I've been wrestling 00:14:18.539 --> 00:14:21.600 with how to present this in an honorable way. 00:14:21.820 --> 00:14:24.919 And also difficult. do what we do and just talk 00:14:24.919 --> 00:14:30.080 about life, right? So there were 39 different 00:14:30.080 --> 00:14:34.620 categories listed out of the 220 deaths on that 00:14:34.620 --> 00:14:39.659 website as of May 1st, 2025, when I was on there 00:14:39.659 --> 00:14:44.779 last. So 39 ways to die. And you're going to 00:14:44.779 --> 00:14:46.759 guess that some of these are more popular than 00:14:46.759 --> 00:14:53.460 others. Popular. Some of these are more popular 00:14:53.460 --> 00:14:58.200 ways to go. What's a better word? More frequently 00:14:58.200 --> 00:15:04.419 occurring. Yes. Oh. A pie chart. This is a pie 00:15:04.419 --> 00:15:08.039 chart. Now, I did not label the data on purpose. 00:15:08.440 --> 00:15:12.320 Okay. So I can guess? Yes. Based on the 39 entries. 00:15:14.980 --> 00:15:17.399 You want to see them again? Yes, please. So we 00:15:17.399 --> 00:15:19.799 got a lot of purple, right? Yeah, it's almost 00:15:19.799 --> 00:15:22.840 75%. Some brown, some green. Actually, no, that's 00:15:22.840 --> 00:15:26.340 probably a solid like 70%. Okay, so I'm going 00:15:26.340 --> 00:15:29.259 to show you the categories again. Okay. Let's 00:15:29.259 --> 00:15:30.720 read some of them while you're thinking. Okay, 00:15:30.779 --> 00:15:34.120 so accident ruptured a blood vessel. I bet that's 00:15:34.120 --> 00:15:38.360 pretty low. Accidentally shot. Fatally is important 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:41.740 information. Yeah, accidentally, fatally. We've 00:15:41.740 --> 00:15:44.919 got burns. We've got, which is different from 00:15:44.919 --> 00:15:48.940 died in fire, died from coal stove fumes. I feel 00:15:48.940 --> 00:15:51.679 like that could, I don't know. That's like the 00:15:51.679 --> 00:15:56.059 modern day dying from carbon monoxide. Disappeared. 00:15:57.519 --> 00:16:00.779 He disappeared dead. Like, we just assume dead. 00:16:01.159 --> 00:16:03.799 It's just awful again, but. Froze, killed in 00:16:03.799 --> 00:16:09.100 explosion, drowned by car ferry. Let's see. suicide 00:16:09.100 --> 00:16:11.539 that's probably a big one though not it's been 00:16:11.539 --> 00:16:15.279 not the biggest for sure killed in tsunami killed 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:20.659 on duty civil civil war okay i'm gonna say okay 00:16:20.659 --> 00:16:24.399 what is this you have accidentally shot shot 00:16:24.399 --> 00:16:27.139 and murdered i didn't i'm telling you i didn't 00:16:27.139 --> 00:16:29.639 okay no you don't oh shot and killed by assistant 00:16:29.639 --> 00:16:32.379 keeper so all of these are very they're the same 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:37.240 Just give me a, give me a guess. We can come 00:16:37.240 --> 00:16:38.620 back to these two. We'll talk about it. Okay. 00:16:38.620 --> 00:16:41.360 I'm going to say, um, fell while painting tower. 00:16:42.559 --> 00:16:46.320 Okay. Is, uh, am I, so here's the data and here's 00:16:46.320 --> 00:16:48.899 the key where, uh, the colors are too drowned. 00:16:49.379 --> 00:16:51.840 Okay. Well that, that almost should have gone 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:53.720 for the easy one. I was gonna say almost all 00:16:53.720 --> 00:16:56.539 of them. That's not true. A large majority, 65%. 00:16:56.539 --> 00:17:02.179 I can tell you roughly. Okay. Um, because I reanalyze 00:17:02.179 --> 00:17:04.920 the data. Oh, good Lord. So I put them into subcategories. 00:17:05.000 --> 00:17:07.740 The subcategories boil down to just these. So 00:17:07.740 --> 00:17:11.119 disappeared, drowned, equipment slash machinery, 00:17:11.420 --> 00:17:17.839 fall or fell, fire, which is, I guess, explosions 00:17:17.839 --> 00:17:21.460 too, physical and mental health, only four entries. 00:17:21.700 --> 00:17:24.019 That's shocking. Good for them. Which that just 00:17:24.019 --> 00:17:26.539 means they retire before they're... Or suicide. 00:17:26.859 --> 00:17:31.099 Overdue. Yeah. Yeah. Violence, which I... I didn't 00:17:31.099 --> 00:17:32.640 put suicide and violence. Didn't think about 00:17:32.640 --> 00:17:35.980 that. Well, person on person violence. Violence 00:17:35.980 --> 00:17:39.900 was not that uncommon. 6%, 14 entries. And then 00:17:39.900 --> 00:17:42.980 weather. Why did I guess fall from? I think I've 00:17:42.980 --> 00:17:45.480 heard. You talked about a lot of falling deaths. 00:17:45.579 --> 00:17:48.799 Yes. And injuries. And the drowning, I felt it 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.839 was too easy of an answer. But it makes the most 00:17:50.839 --> 00:17:54.039 sense because lots of lighthouses you had to 00:17:54.039 --> 00:17:58.000 row to get food. Yeah. From the market. You had 00:17:58.000 --> 00:18:02.589 to drop your kid off at school. Now, as an asterisk, 00:18:02.650 --> 00:18:06.549 I've got to insert the fact that these statistics 00:18:06.549 --> 00:18:09.910 also include light ship incidents. Oh, okay. 00:18:09.910 --> 00:18:12.809 Which are not insignificant. So as we go back, 00:18:12.869 --> 00:18:15.250 I'm killing myself with these slides, but you're 00:18:15.250 --> 00:18:18.190 going to see light ship sunk in a hurricane, 00:18:18.390 --> 00:18:21.410 drowned is listed. And I actually don't remember 00:18:21.410 --> 00:18:23.410 the number of entries on that. Let's see if it's 00:18:23.410 --> 00:18:27.210 on this. We're not going to be able to find the 00:18:27.210 --> 00:18:28.690 color. Oh, it's the bottom. Yeah, I know. So 00:18:28.690 --> 00:18:31.259 one of the light purples. So it's in there somewhere. 00:18:31.380 --> 00:18:32.619 Maybe it's just one listing. One of those teeny 00:18:32.619 --> 00:18:37.059 slivers. But the point is there's all these descriptors 00:18:37.059 --> 00:18:40.819 were provided. I reorganized them and put them 00:18:40.819 --> 00:18:43.539 into these buckets. And again, I have the total 00:18:43.539 --> 00:18:51.420 of 220. So 1 % disappeared. 65 % drowned. 6 % 00:18:51.420 --> 00:18:55.660 died from machinery or equipment. 5 % fell to 00:18:55.660 --> 00:18:58.730 death. This is low. It's low. 2 % died in fire, 00:18:58.950 --> 00:19:00.509 which is surprising to me, too. That is, too. 00:19:01.490 --> 00:19:05.450 Physical, mental health, 2%. Violence, 6%. Weather, 00:19:05.609 --> 00:19:09.170 13%. Kind of nuts. You know, it's comforting 00:19:09.170 --> 00:19:12.170 that disappeared didn't end up just being one 00:19:12.170 --> 00:19:17.470 guy. Yeah, two guys. And I'm pretty sure there 00:19:17.470 --> 00:19:18.970 were two separate accounts. Yeah. I'm pretty 00:19:18.970 --> 00:19:20.089 sure they didn't disappear together. But you 00:19:20.089 --> 00:19:22.250 don't want to be the one singular statistic on 00:19:22.250 --> 00:19:25.329 anything. Yeah. So it's good. It's good. It's 00:19:25.329 --> 00:19:27.619 not alone. It is good that they're not alone. 00:19:27.779 --> 00:19:33.140 Oh my gosh. So yeah, these are the, I call this 00:19:33.140 --> 00:19:36.799 the refined results. And now I just started listing 00:19:36.799 --> 00:19:41.420 like, so we talked about some deaths, what caused 00:19:41.420 --> 00:19:44.319 them. These are just risks that I've thought 00:19:44.319 --> 00:19:46.079 of. I've just thought about some of the stories 00:19:46.079 --> 00:19:49.819 that we've heard. Think about standard rock where 00:19:49.819 --> 00:19:53.279 the boiler or something in the fuel storage basement 00:19:53.279 --> 00:19:58.130 exploded. One man died. Three men spent two days 00:19:58.130 --> 00:20:03.450 outside on a ledge waiting. It kept burning, 00:20:03.589 --> 00:20:08.150 by the way, the whole time. We've talked about 00:20:08.150 --> 00:20:10.730 violence. We've talked about murder mysteries. 00:20:11.289 --> 00:20:13.630 Do you remember that one? I'm quizzing you now. 00:20:13.869 --> 00:20:22.049 That was the one in Scotland. I might actually 00:20:22.049 --> 00:20:26.789 have the... the note on that it was an island 00:20:26.789 --> 00:20:32.190 so standard rock we talked about um fire and 00:20:32.190 --> 00:20:35.029 lead so again i'm citing some articles now yeah 00:20:35.029 --> 00:20:38.309 but eddy stone lighthouse yes remember there 00:20:38.309 --> 00:20:40.789 was a fire in the tower and a keeper went out 00:20:40.789 --> 00:20:43.690 and tried to put it out he got lead in his mouth 00:20:43.690 --> 00:20:46.710 yeah his stomach that's one of these things that 00:20:46.710 --> 00:20:50.309 was cited um the perils of rest i could read 00:20:50.309 --> 00:20:51.849 all these articles if you have any questions 00:20:51.849 --> 00:20:54.400 they're like Paragraphs each, but the perils 00:20:54.400 --> 00:20:58.279 of rescue. Ida Lewis went out a rowboat to save 00:20:58.279 --> 00:21:02.079 people. That didn't go very well. Wild weather. 00:21:02.160 --> 00:21:06.660 Talked about when three guys disappeared. Where 00:21:06.660 --> 00:21:11.119 was this one at? North coast of Scotland. Yeah. 00:21:12.079 --> 00:21:17.980 Eileen Moore. Lighthouse on the island of Eileen. 00:21:18.000 --> 00:21:21.200 E -I -L -E -A -N. No, that's not the one we covered. 00:21:21.440 --> 00:21:24.690 Well. It starts with an F. After stormy weather 00:21:24.690 --> 00:21:27.250 delayed his trip to the lighthouse for days, 00:21:27.470 --> 00:21:30.369 replacement keeper arrived at Eileen Moore by 00:21:30.369 --> 00:21:33.130 boat, only to find that three of the on -duty 00:21:33.130 --> 00:21:36.250 keepers, all of them, were gone. Only vague and 00:21:36.250 --> 00:21:38.630 scattered clues remained, a stopped clock, a 00:21:38.630 --> 00:21:41.009 knocked over chair, and one coat. It's the correct 00:21:41.009 --> 00:21:45.490 story, but it's not the lighthouse. They don't 00:21:45.490 --> 00:21:47.069 say the lighthouse name in this article. It's 00:21:47.069 --> 00:21:50.210 kind of weird. Oh, that's what I thought. Well, 00:21:50.250 --> 00:21:52.789 we'll come back to it. Toxic mercury. We just 00:21:52.789 --> 00:21:54.710 talked about mercury floats in a recent episode. 00:21:54.829 --> 00:21:57.130 Yes, we did. That is a definite health risk. 00:21:58.130 --> 00:22:02.309 Extreme isolation. This one we'll have to come 00:22:02.309 --> 00:22:05.109 back to because it's pretty wild. I read the 00:22:05.109 --> 00:22:09.710 whole story. But so we watched The Lighthouse, 00:22:09.730 --> 00:22:14.230 the movie with Gerald Butler. No, Robert Pattinson. 00:22:14.269 --> 00:22:16.880 Robert Pattinson and William Defoe. Yeah. Gerald 00:22:16.880 --> 00:22:19.220 Butler is not in it. But he is in a Lighthouse 00:22:19.220 --> 00:22:21.240 movie. The one about the story you just said. 00:22:21.380 --> 00:22:23.039 What is it called? Oh, I haven't seen that one 00:22:23.039 --> 00:22:25.819 yet. It starts with an F. Flannan Isle. Flannan 00:22:25.819 --> 00:22:29.400 Isle Mystery. Thank you for that. So those three 00:22:29.400 --> 00:22:31.839 guys just disappeared. No one ever found them. 00:22:32.019 --> 00:22:34.220 And the Keeper's Log said that they were going 00:22:34.220 --> 00:22:36.420 to go do something or they were in the middle 00:22:36.420 --> 00:22:38.559 of some action. Yeah. So maybe they all went 00:22:38.559 --> 00:22:41.339 outside at once. They got like taken off in a 00:22:41.339 --> 00:22:46.700 wave. Yeah. We don't know. Aliens. Aliens. So 00:22:46.700 --> 00:22:48.660 this one, extreme isolation. I don't think you've 00:22:48.660 --> 00:22:50.640 ever heard of this before. Clipperton Island? 00:22:51.099 --> 00:22:53.299 Nope. I'm just going to read this. Clipperton. 00:22:53.480 --> 00:22:55.220 These are not my words. I read the whole story. 00:22:55.279 --> 00:22:57.980 This is a short version. Oh, okay. Lighthouses 00:22:57.980 --> 00:23:00.180 likely attracted some folks who had trouble fitting 00:23:00.180 --> 00:23:03.099 into society, but the keeper of Clipperton Island 00:23:03.099 --> 00:23:06.059 was an extreme case. The danger in this situation 00:23:06.059 --> 00:23:08.680 wasn't to the keeper, but to the people stuck 00:23:08.680 --> 00:23:11.759 on the tiny Pacific Island, a thousand kilometers 00:23:11.759 --> 00:23:15.359 off Mexico's southwest coast. Doesn't sound good. 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:19.420 Since 1899, Clipperton Island had been supported 00:23:19.420 --> 00:23:23.640 of a guano mining colony. Ew. So I'm going to 00:23:23.640 --> 00:23:27.240 fast forward. Guano was bad bird shit. Yes. It 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:30.720 was very valuable at one time. Mining. Yes. Collecting. 00:23:30.740 --> 00:23:33.880 Ew. Extremely valuable. Wars were fought over 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:37.160 guano, by the way. It was a whole thing. Just 00:23:37.160 --> 00:23:39.460 keep that. Yeah. It's like, but you know, salt 00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:41.359 was really valuable at one time. And then pepper 00:23:41.359 --> 00:23:44.119 was huge. The silk trail. Those are spices. Those 00:23:44.119 --> 00:23:47.779 are not poop. Guano. was a fertilizer, and it 00:23:47.779 --> 00:23:50.359 was extremely important. Yeah, I needed some 00:23:50.359 --> 00:23:53.740 context there as to why people would value this. 00:23:53.900 --> 00:23:56.960 So I'm just going to make my own summary because 00:23:56.960 --> 00:23:59.480 I read the story recently. So guano was mined 00:23:59.480 --> 00:24:02.720 there. The United States, Spain, and because 00:24:02.720 --> 00:24:04.859 this is almost 1900, by the way, not that long 00:24:04.859 --> 00:24:08.839 ago in lighthouse history, Spain and Mexico kind 00:24:08.839 --> 00:24:12.099 of got in a... about about this one island okay 00:24:12.099 --> 00:24:14.920 because it had a ton of bat traffic that was 00:24:14.920 --> 00:24:18.220 excuse me bird traffic and the guano was supposedly 00:24:18.220 --> 00:24:21.619 of high quality anyways it's actually not a great 00:24:21.619 --> 00:24:24.519 place to live so the people who did get there 00:24:24.519 --> 00:24:27.619 had trouble living there of course and then because 00:24:27.619 --> 00:24:29.799 of the trade war between the three countries 00:24:29.799 --> 00:24:32.720 and who claimed they had it's so funny britain 00:24:32.720 --> 00:24:35.079 couldn't even land on the island They failed 00:24:35.079 --> 00:24:38.039 to land, so they did a lap, and they yelled from 00:24:38.039 --> 00:24:41.640 the boat that we now own this island. It's like, 00:24:41.819 --> 00:24:44.200 put a flag on it, and then I'll believe you. 00:24:44.319 --> 00:24:45.759 But there weren't that many people on it, and 00:24:45.759 --> 00:24:47.140 there was a lighthouse, and there was a guy, 00:24:47.319 --> 00:24:52.380 Victoriano Alvarez. Victoriano. I'll call him 00:24:52.380 --> 00:24:56.420 Vic. So Vic was the lighthouse keeper, kind of 00:24:56.420 --> 00:25:00.440 a weirdo, kind of a recluse. Okay. And through 00:25:00.440 --> 00:25:03.880 this trade war, ships just stopped coming to 00:25:03.880 --> 00:25:08.299 the island. Oh, no. So people started dying of 00:25:08.299 --> 00:25:10.900 vitamin deficiency. Oh, my gosh. Specifically, 00:25:10.920 --> 00:25:16.579 they had scurvy, the men. And the men, how did 00:25:16.579 --> 00:25:19.599 this happen? Four of them thought they saw a 00:25:19.599 --> 00:25:22.299 boat. So they got in a rowboat and went out to 00:25:22.299 --> 00:25:25.539 sea. And then they realized it was a hallucination. 00:25:25.880 --> 00:25:28.079 So the guy who had directed them to do that was 00:25:28.079 --> 00:25:30.480 on the boat. He's like, let's go. We got to save 00:25:30.480 --> 00:25:32.279 ourselves. We got to get the attention to this 00:25:32.279 --> 00:25:35.200 ship. They got mad at him, overturned the boat, 00:25:35.259 --> 00:25:38.339 they all died. So that was four of the last like 00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:42.000 12 men. That was fruitful. So the men died and 00:25:42.000 --> 00:25:46.799 there was one man left, Vic. Vic took all the 00:25:46.799 --> 00:25:49.480 guns and threw them into a lagoon except for 00:25:49.480 --> 00:25:52.579 one rifle. He kept that for himself. The story 00:25:52.579 --> 00:25:57.019 gets dark. There were several women on the island 00:25:57.019 --> 00:26:01.259 and he made them the slaves, if you will. Skip 00:26:01.259 --> 00:26:04.180 that. It's just, it's bad. This is a true story. 00:26:05.140 --> 00:26:08.839 Eventually, they killed him with a hammer. Okay. 00:26:09.019 --> 00:26:12.079 They got away. They were rescued by a passerby 00:26:12.079 --> 00:26:15.220 boat. The United States was looking for submarines 00:26:15.220 --> 00:26:19.519 because it was World War I. What? Yes. How did 00:26:19.519 --> 00:26:22.599 they live there that long? It was like the, I 00:26:22.599 --> 00:26:27.160 forget the boat, the USS Yorktown or something. 00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:28.660 I'm sorry. That's not the point of this episode. 00:26:28.720 --> 00:26:31.190 Yeah. The point is. This guy terrorized these 00:26:31.190 --> 00:26:33.269 women on an island. Died by a hammer. And it 00:26:33.269 --> 00:26:36.170 was, well, what's the cause? Was he going crazy? 00:26:36.349 --> 00:26:39.549 Was he already crazy? Was the ice like, this 00:26:39.549 --> 00:26:41.470 is it. This is the last stand. What would you 00:26:41.470 --> 00:26:43.769 do if you knew you were going to die? Well, this 00:26:43.769 --> 00:26:46.670 guy showed his colors. Yeah. So they killed him. 00:26:46.710 --> 00:26:48.950 Eventually they were reunited for the most part 00:26:48.950 --> 00:26:52.609 with their family. I think they were from Mexico. 00:26:53.309 --> 00:26:58.940 Huh. Those ladies. Well, not good. So that's 00:26:58.940 --> 00:27:02.799 the case of extreme isolation. Oh, I see. And 00:27:02.799 --> 00:27:07.019 then another article, just the Smalls lighthouse 00:27:07.019 --> 00:27:12.259 tragedy. One of the keepers died, and the other 00:27:12.259 --> 00:27:14.339 keeper put him in a coffin and put him outside 00:27:14.339 --> 00:27:17.339 because he didn't want him to be inside the lighthouse 00:27:17.339 --> 00:27:21.059 with him. And the coffin broke loose in his body. 00:27:21.140 --> 00:27:23.839 His arm was banging against the window. Ew, what? 00:27:23.920 --> 00:27:27.400 Like a horror film. That's a whole thing. Oh, 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:35.019 terrible. This one's talking about another sailing 00:27:35.019 --> 00:27:38.519 competition was taking place off the coast of 00:27:38.519 --> 00:27:41.759 Ireland called the Fastnet Yacht Race. It's the 00:27:41.759 --> 00:27:46.559 tragedy of 1979, also recent. Highlighted the 00:27:46.559 --> 00:27:48.960 dangerous waters surrounding the tower and killed 00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:51.740 15 sailors. Oh, no. So the lighthouse keeper 00:27:51.740 --> 00:27:54.779 went into action to try to help, but 15 people 00:27:54.779 --> 00:27:57.799 still died. Again, that's 1979. What does it 00:27:57.799 --> 00:28:01.380 mean? Everyone crashed? I don't know the details. 00:28:01.640 --> 00:28:03.720 There's a link here, but I won't dive because 00:28:03.720 --> 00:28:06.700 I haven't read it. Eddie Stone we talked about. 00:28:07.220 --> 00:28:15.140 Great storm. Died by lead consumption. One of 00:28:15.140 --> 00:28:16.740 these people, I just thought it was funny. I 00:28:16.740 --> 00:28:20.200 get to the end and there's comments. They're 00:28:20.200 --> 00:28:23.799 all dudes. Some of the comments are, I need this 00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:28.180 job. How can I applying online for this job? 00:28:29.119 --> 00:28:32.819 I want job in lighthouse. Oh my gosh. I'm ready 00:28:32.819 --> 00:28:35.420 for the lighthouse keeper job. So how to apply? 00:28:35.920 --> 00:28:38.400 They've got to be bots. This is, so this is the 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:41.740 internet. This is where we're at. Yeah. But I 00:28:41.740 --> 00:28:43.559 don't know. I mean, I've gotten us a little off 00:28:43.559 --> 00:28:45.519 track, but you know, I don't have a lot more. 00:28:45.599 --> 00:28:48.740 I was just talking about some of the risks of 00:28:48.740 --> 00:28:53.180 being out there historically. And it's a little 00:28:53.180 --> 00:28:56.460 silly, but the risks of today. I keep thinking 00:28:56.460 --> 00:28:58.880 about, I'm trying to put together a presentation 00:28:58.880 --> 00:29:03.039 eventually to give to a group in Boise, where 00:29:03.039 --> 00:29:04.819 we're going to talk about probably lighthouse 00:29:04.819 --> 00:29:07.059 tourism, I think is going to be the main focus. 00:29:07.299 --> 00:29:09.500 But we'll also talk about our podcast. We'll 00:29:09.500 --> 00:29:12.140 probably play this clip from our episode talking 00:29:12.140 --> 00:29:15.039 about talking about it. That'll be fun. Oh, good. 00:29:15.319 --> 00:29:19.180 And however silly this is, I've had two professional 00:29:19.180 --> 00:29:22.039 jobs now, and both of them, safety is first. 00:29:22.440 --> 00:29:25.279 So one of the things to talk about. With lighthouse 00:29:25.279 --> 00:29:27.779 tourism in general is being safe yourself as 00:29:27.779 --> 00:29:30.940 a tourist and like your risks are so low compared 00:29:30.940 --> 00:29:33.299 to looking at historical lists of things. Of 00:29:33.299 --> 00:29:35.380 course. Keepers had to do. Yeah. But just as 00:29:35.380 --> 00:29:41.000 a tourist. Be aware of things like your own abilities. 00:29:41.440 --> 00:29:45.059 Yeah. A lot of the folks are young and old and 00:29:45.059 --> 00:29:49.119 fit and not fit. And the infrastructure itself 00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:52.750 is also aging. So there are professionals. at 00:29:52.750 --> 00:29:55.250 most places, who are looking after these lighthouses 00:29:55.250 --> 00:29:56.990 if they're going to give you tours or tell you 00:29:56.990 --> 00:29:59.690 what's safe or not safe. But not everywhere. 00:29:59.829 --> 00:30:02.829 For example, we went to a lighthouse, which will 00:30:02.829 --> 00:30:05.829 remain unnamed, where we could have just walked 00:30:05.829 --> 00:30:09.250 in. There was no one there. And it was not in 00:30:09.250 --> 00:30:13.029 good shape. And we could have gone up what was 00:30:13.029 --> 00:30:16.990 a set of stairs. I already blasted it on the 00:30:16.990 --> 00:30:23.210 USLHS. Anyways, I'm 250 pounds. And, you know, 00:30:23.210 --> 00:30:26.049 if you and I are standing on the same stair all 00:30:26.049 --> 00:30:28.190 of a sudden because, oh, look at the view out 00:30:28.190 --> 00:30:31.089 this window. Oh, let's get a picture. Like, we 00:30:31.089 --> 00:30:33.789 don't know. That thing was corroded. Yeah, we 00:30:33.789 --> 00:30:36.190 don't know how many, like, connections to the 00:30:36.190 --> 00:30:39.630 walls were even still stable. So the point is, 00:30:39.710 --> 00:30:42.589 clearly people go up. I'm sure it's fine most 00:30:42.589 --> 00:30:45.789 of the time. But you don't want to be that person 00:30:45.789 --> 00:30:48.500 who is. Oh, how'd you break your leg backwards? 00:30:48.859 --> 00:30:52.140 Oh. Oh, gross. You tried to take a picture in 00:30:52.140 --> 00:30:54.599 a place that said keep out. Yeah, you went in 00:30:54.599 --> 00:30:56.420 somewhere that was Mark's private property. Yeah, 00:30:56.559 --> 00:30:58.880 don't go in there. You're not Indiana Jones. 00:30:59.599 --> 00:31:03.799 So I'm getting off track. There is safety concerns 00:31:03.799 --> 00:31:06.500 today. If you go to a place that's well kept, 00:31:06.559 --> 00:31:09.160 that's giving tours, it's going to be safe. No 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:10.799 worries. They're doing all the work, and that's 00:31:10.799 --> 00:31:13.039 a lot of the modern day work in Lighthouse and 00:31:13.039 --> 00:31:16.279 historical sites. is that they have to keep up 00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:18.140 with modern standards, even though it's a historical 00:31:18.140 --> 00:31:20.759 building or structure. That is very difficult 00:31:20.759 --> 00:31:24.799 to do. So some credit there, but dehydration, 00:31:24.819 --> 00:31:29.380 climbing 200 plus steps, slips, trips, and falls, 00:31:29.579 --> 00:31:33.900 weather. Oh, like there were, oh, maybe this 00:31:33.900 --> 00:31:41.059 was, this applies to lots of lighthouses. And 00:31:41.059 --> 00:31:43.240 I was trying to remember if this was, the lighthouse 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:46.759 I climbed with Carly or with you, but they warn 00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:49.380 you multiple times to watch your head because 00:31:49.380 --> 00:31:53.180 you're climbing upwards through a tiny hole. 00:31:53.640 --> 00:31:56.720 And if you don't hug the ladder closely, then 00:31:56.720 --> 00:31:58.859 you are in serious danger of hitting your head. 00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:00.920 If you hit it too hard, you fall off the ladder. 00:32:00.980 --> 00:32:05.599 So it's a double whammy. Whammy. Double whammy. 00:32:05.700 --> 00:32:08.430 All in suit. I know you took a picture of me 00:32:08.430 --> 00:32:10.529 at Cape Cod. I don't know if it was Highland 00:32:10.529 --> 00:32:13.430 Light or if it was. It was Highland Light and. 00:32:13.710 --> 00:32:18.109 Martha's Vineyard. Edgar Town. Yeah. But that's 00:32:18.109 --> 00:32:20.529 on Martha's Vineyard, right? Oh, yes. Yeah. So 00:32:20.529 --> 00:32:23.829 I'm like crawling through this thing. Now, I'll 00:32:23.829 --> 00:32:26.990 insert here. Yes. I am kind of a bigger person. 00:32:27.109 --> 00:32:30.730 Okay. Of course. But I also exercise, stretch. 00:32:30.950 --> 00:32:32.910 I do all sorts of activities. You're prepared 00:32:32.910 --> 00:32:35.930 for movement. And I'm not that old yet. Oh, my 00:32:35.930 --> 00:32:38.910 gosh. Some people would be so angry hearing you 00:32:38.910 --> 00:32:41.289 say that. Well, it's supposed to be a joke. I'm 00:32:41.289 --> 00:32:44.309 pretty young for our listener base. You're pretty 00:32:44.309 --> 00:32:47.170 young in general. Yeah, I suppose. Could die 00:32:47.170 --> 00:32:51.329 any moment. Count your blessings. Yeah, I'm almost 00:32:51.329 --> 00:32:54.950 30. But anyways, I'm still in pretty good shape 00:32:54.950 --> 00:32:56.869 to get around and see lighthouses. So I'm very 00:32:56.869 --> 00:33:02.700 fortunate. But if you were not. You could get 00:33:02.700 --> 00:33:04.299 up the stairs. You could probably get up the 00:33:04.299 --> 00:33:06.180 ladder, but getting through the opening would 00:33:06.180 --> 00:33:08.339 be uncomfortable. It would be difficult. Especially 00:33:08.339 --> 00:33:10.039 if you were overweight. Especially if you were 00:33:10.039 --> 00:33:12.980 real elderly. It would be a challenge. I don't 00:33:12.980 --> 00:33:16.000 want to discourage people from going, but honestly, 00:33:16.119 --> 00:33:18.599 if that's the motivation you need to get stretching, 00:33:18.740 --> 00:33:20.640 get working out, you should do it before you 00:33:20.640 --> 00:33:22.140 go and you really want to see the top of the 00:33:22.140 --> 00:33:25.640 lighthouse. Poor Emily. I'm looking like I'm 00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:27.799 pointing at her. For everyone who's not here. 00:33:28.599 --> 00:33:32.359 Am I weak? She broke her... foot. You broke your 00:33:32.359 --> 00:33:34.880 ankle. The bone that connects the foot to the 00:33:34.880 --> 00:33:37.640 ankle on the outside. Right before we went on 00:33:37.640 --> 00:33:40.559 our first trip. Two weeks. Which was to the biggest 00:33:40.559 --> 00:33:43.779 lighthouses in the world. The Outer Banks. Some 00:33:43.779 --> 00:33:47.299 of the tallest. And we did not get to climb any 00:33:47.299 --> 00:33:49.640 of them for that reason. You should have gone 00:33:49.640 --> 00:33:54.420 anyway. Nah. Emily was on a little scooter. And 00:33:54.420 --> 00:33:57.440 we've told those stories before too. And she... 00:33:58.140 --> 00:34:00.460 She got to see things. We got to meet people. 00:34:00.680 --> 00:34:03.079 We got to go to great restaurants and go to the 00:34:03.079 --> 00:34:05.539 beach even. We carried the scooter out there. 00:34:05.880 --> 00:34:10.719 But it was not ideal. You were the only reason 00:34:10.719 --> 00:34:13.539 that trip was successful at all because if I 00:34:13.539 --> 00:34:16.739 went there by myself or with somebody like my 00:34:16.739 --> 00:34:21.079 sister, she can't carry me. There were some times 00:34:21.079 --> 00:34:24.019 where I needed some serious assistance. It's 00:34:24.019 --> 00:34:26.300 hard getting around when you only have one leg. 00:34:26.460 --> 00:34:30.909 Yeah, I'm good at that. But Emily did drive the 00:34:30.909 --> 00:34:34.230 golf cart. Yeah, it was an important job. Played 00:34:34.230 --> 00:34:38.989 nine holes at Nags Head Golf Links. But I was 00:34:38.989 --> 00:34:41.730 telling my mom recently that I hardly remember 00:34:41.730 --> 00:34:44.530 that I was on a scooter because you made the 00:34:44.530 --> 00:34:47.110 trip so fun anyway. That's great. That like my 00:34:47.110 --> 00:34:49.070 memory, I have to like be like, oh, that's right. 00:34:49.190 --> 00:34:51.349 I was on a scooter. It's not like the trip was, 00:34:51.449 --> 00:34:55.829 it was still great success. Great success. So. 00:34:56.639 --> 00:34:59.659 That's really powerful, though, because who are 00:34:59.659 --> 00:35:03.300 we as 20 -somethings to say, well, everybody 00:35:03.300 --> 00:35:06.139 should go. Yeah, absolutely. It's so much fun. 00:35:06.480 --> 00:35:10.179 But a lot of people, they're just not lucky or 00:35:10.179 --> 00:35:12.840 they've been through things and they can't climb 00:35:12.840 --> 00:35:16.179 a lighthouse. Well, we've actually done that 00:35:16.179 --> 00:35:20.880 trip. And you can still have a great time. Obviously, 00:35:21.199 --> 00:35:23.780 life is more fun when you have more opportunities. 00:35:24.940 --> 00:35:26.800 For sure. People can't control everything. So 00:35:26.800 --> 00:35:31.679 that's going to go into safety, travel. And it 00:35:31.679 --> 00:35:33.460 kind of helps me to build the picture of who 00:35:33.460 --> 00:35:36.519 we're talking to. It's not like everybody's old 00:35:36.519 --> 00:35:38.300 and decrepit. That's not what I'm saying. It's 00:35:38.300 --> 00:35:40.159 just like life happens and sometimes you can't 00:35:40.159 --> 00:35:44.599 do everything. So slips, going back to my, my 00:35:44.599 --> 00:35:47.739 total list of like threats I could think of for 00:35:47.739 --> 00:35:50.460 lighthouse keepers. Yeah. Slips, trips and falls. 00:35:50.880 --> 00:35:53.880 High temperature, high pressure equipment. Yeah. 00:35:54.639 --> 00:35:58.380 war and violence repetition yeah ergonomically 00:35:58.380 --> 00:36:02.159 yeah they're gonna get arthritis also with repetition 00:36:02.159 --> 00:36:04.360 that you get really comfortable doing things 00:36:04.360 --> 00:36:07.059 you're familiar with that you get like loose 00:36:07.059 --> 00:36:10.000 with your too confident yes like with your safety 00:36:10.000 --> 00:36:14.480 stuff so um fatigue think about that you're sick 00:36:14.480 --> 00:36:20.789 oh too bad too bad go to work Constant work required. 00:36:21.070 --> 00:36:23.489 There's no like, well, we keep the light on and 00:36:23.489 --> 00:36:25.610 that's the job. Yeah, just make sure it's on 00:36:25.610 --> 00:36:28.250 every once in a while. That's modern day. Yeah, 00:36:28.309 --> 00:36:31.909 there's constant work. Also, I didn't put it 00:36:31.909 --> 00:36:34.250 on here. I put dehydration, but like water quality. 00:36:34.510 --> 00:36:37.110 Like most of the water was collected in cisterns 00:36:37.110 --> 00:36:40.329 from rain. Yeah. And sometimes it had other stuff 00:36:40.329 --> 00:36:42.250 in it. We've heard several of those stories. 00:36:42.389 --> 00:36:46.570 Yeah. Poisoning and oils. Yeah, one of my last 00:36:46.570 --> 00:36:49.340 episodes I talked about. Lead paint being the 00:36:49.340 --> 00:36:52.239 lining of the cistern. So naturally. Yeah, not 00:36:52.239 --> 00:36:56.820 ideal. Yeah. So there's just been like lots of 00:36:56.820 --> 00:37:02.059 dark history of lighthouses. This is a generic 00:37:02.059 --> 00:37:04.320 image that I've had saved for a long time in 00:37:04.320 --> 00:37:06.280 our stock images. That's what this reminds me 00:37:06.280 --> 00:37:09.019 of. We should do another. This is AI too. Can 00:37:09.019 --> 00:37:11.599 we have some real photos around here? This was 00:37:11.599 --> 00:37:14.940 a stock image I got a long time ago. Look how 00:37:14.940 --> 00:37:21.440 tall. The lighthouse, the lightning rod is. It's 00:37:21.440 --> 00:37:25.659 ready to be struck. That's like 15 feet tall. 00:37:27.639 --> 00:37:33.400 We need to do another spooky episode. Yeah, probably 00:37:33.400 --> 00:37:35.900 around Halloween. There's lots of lighthouses 00:37:35.900 --> 00:37:38.800 that are known for their spookiness and they 00:37:38.800 --> 00:37:43.280 love to play on that. Inside joke. Only long 00:37:43.280 --> 00:37:44.960 -term listeners would get it. Someday you'll 00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:49.030 get it. But yeah, I mean, I don't know. Like 00:37:49.030 --> 00:37:52.150 again, you can see how this is hard to put together 00:37:52.150 --> 00:37:54.409 because I don't want to make fun of people's 00:37:54.409 --> 00:37:58.610 death or injury. Like there's so many stories 00:37:58.610 --> 00:38:01.150 and I don't want to just pick a couple because 00:38:01.150 --> 00:38:03.130 then I'd miss other ones that are so important 00:38:03.130 --> 00:38:07.230 that were so impactful. So one thing I did learn 00:38:07.230 --> 00:38:09.610 as a fun fact, I don't know this to be true, 00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:12.329 but do you recall, I brought it up earlier and 00:38:12.329 --> 00:38:15.740 this reminded me a little bit of this. Standard 00:38:15.740 --> 00:38:18.820 Rock. We talked about how there was an explosion. 00:38:19.039 --> 00:38:21.699 Yes. There's four men out there. The middle of 00:38:21.699 --> 00:38:23.539 the night, I think it was, there was an explosion 00:38:23.539 --> 00:38:28.480 that originated from the lower level of the lighthouse. 00:38:28.960 --> 00:38:31.960 A separate oil house. It's not separate because 00:38:31.960 --> 00:38:36.179 Standard Rock is on its standalone concrete crib. 00:38:36.599 --> 00:38:39.739 And inside, there's only one structure. Inside 00:38:39.739 --> 00:38:43.320 in the basement was the fuel storage, boiler. 00:38:44.059 --> 00:38:47.099 And other machinery. Did you confirm? I read 00:38:47.099 --> 00:38:49.820 that recently, yes. Okay. But there's no other 00:38:49.820 --> 00:38:52.699 structure, which is part of the importance of 00:38:52.699 --> 00:38:55.139 the accident that happened there. Because it's 00:38:55.139 --> 00:38:58.059 the middle of the night. No one to today still 00:38:58.059 --> 00:39:00.820 knows what actually caused the explosion. Yes, 00:39:00.820 --> 00:39:04.519 we do. I read this yesterday. I did the episode. 00:39:04.559 --> 00:39:07.159 What's the answer? That he put down his lantern. 00:39:08.179 --> 00:39:10.559 You're thinking of a different explosion. You're 00:39:10.559 --> 00:39:14.869 thinking of San Francisco. There's an Airbnb 00:39:14.869 --> 00:39:18.829 there now. Was that that place? Yep. Okay, that's 00:39:18.829 --> 00:39:21.130 probably why I have this whole imagery of what's 00:39:21.130 --> 00:39:24.730 happening in my head. East Brother. East Brother 00:39:24.730 --> 00:39:27.409 Light Station had an explosion as well. It was 00:39:27.409 --> 00:39:32.449 the boathouse was gone. Yes, it was leaking fuel. 00:39:32.650 --> 00:39:34.929 But yes, he put down his lantern and then knocked 00:39:34.929 --> 00:39:38.010 it over, right, as he was handling fuel. And 00:39:38.010 --> 00:39:40.190 so there was, in the middle of the night also, 00:39:40.289 --> 00:39:45.000 massive explosion. Not good. But it was separate 00:39:45.000 --> 00:39:46.659 from the lighthouse because the lighthouse survived. 00:39:46.980 --> 00:39:49.280 Yeah. The boathouse, if I remember right, and 00:39:49.280 --> 00:39:51.860 the fuel storage were all gone. And that person 00:39:51.860 --> 00:39:55.639 died. But Standard Rock, which is Lake Michigan, 00:39:55.820 --> 00:39:59.400 Lake Superior. Lake Michigan? Lake Superior. 00:39:59.639 --> 00:40:04.900 Yeah. Great Lakes. North of Michigan. People 00:40:04.900 --> 00:40:07.800 are like, north of Michigan? I'm like, no, this 00:40:07.800 --> 00:40:10.579 is right. And you're like, Lake Michigan. Hold 00:40:10.579 --> 00:40:16.780 me. Hold me. Hold on. Standard Rock. Do you remember 00:40:16.780 --> 00:40:20.000 that explosion and that story? No. Apparently, 00:40:20.139 --> 00:40:25.860 zero percent. I remember them. I remember that 00:40:25.860 --> 00:40:27.960 somebody died. I remember that they all had to 00:40:27.960 --> 00:40:30.300 huddle outside because the tower was filled with 00:40:30.300 --> 00:40:33.199 smoke for the entire time. That's what I got. 00:40:33.380 --> 00:40:36.320 So there was four people in the building. And 00:40:36.320 --> 00:40:38.659 it's just like the image on screen. It's got 00:40:38.659 --> 00:40:42.099 a concrete crib. that the tower is on, but there's 00:40:42.099 --> 00:40:44.059 only a couple feet of ledge and then that's it. 00:40:44.239 --> 00:40:46.360 There's no island. There's nothing else around 00:40:46.360 --> 00:40:49.800 because it's on a, it's on a, I think a coral. 00:40:50.099 --> 00:40:53.559 Yeah. A reef. Yeah. That's a high point, which 00:40:53.559 --> 00:40:55.960 is why the lighthouse is there. So boats don't 00:40:55.960 --> 00:40:58.039 hit it. Right. That lighthouse is still there. 00:40:58.280 --> 00:41:00.800 We talked about it on several episodes. We did 00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:03.320 some interviews on it as well. So standard rock 00:41:03.320 --> 00:41:05.840 had an explosion. The origin of that explosion 00:41:05.840 --> 00:41:07.820 is still unknown. It could have been human air, 00:41:07.900 --> 00:41:11.019 similar to. East Brother Light with the lantern, 00:41:11.340 --> 00:41:14.760 with our buff guy we saw earlier. Oh, God. Or 00:41:14.760 --> 00:41:17.460 it could have been equipment failure, could have 00:41:17.460 --> 00:41:21.500 been a leak. Interesting topic. We all know that 00:41:21.500 --> 00:41:25.019 it's a dangerous job, and there's lots of different 00:41:25.019 --> 00:41:30.179 facets that could kill you. They could. They 00:41:30.179 --> 00:41:33.420 have. Yeah. Unfortunately. 39 different ways. 00:41:33.820 --> 00:41:37.579 Yeah. I want to see that list again. I'm really 00:41:37.579 --> 00:41:40.420 interested in this. killed in an Indian raid, 00:41:40.619 --> 00:41:44.980 hit in the head by a derrick. So I think that's 00:41:44.980 --> 00:41:47.760 a rotate, like one of these things goes up and 00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:50.440 down and like pumps, like an oil derrick is one 00:41:50.440 --> 00:41:53.280 of those. Oh, I thought that was like when they 00:41:53.280 --> 00:41:56.579 are bringing stuff up from a boat, like on a 00:41:56.579 --> 00:42:00.860 barge, not a barge. Machine Googled someone named 00:42:00.860 --> 00:42:03.539 Derrick. Oh yeah, Derrick, that's the name. It's 00:42:03.539 --> 00:42:05.900 a hoisting apparatus. You're right. Excellent. 00:42:06.199 --> 00:42:09.309 Framework used in oil drilling. And other things. 00:42:09.530 --> 00:42:12.190 There could be several Derricks that it's referring 00:42:12.190 --> 00:42:14.190 to. One of them could be a man hit in the head 00:42:14.190 --> 00:42:18.070 by Derrick. Yeah. A type of crane that is used 00:42:18.070 --> 00:42:21.969 as a mast to boom and a hoisting mechanism to 00:42:21.969 --> 00:42:25.170 lift and move heavy objects. So, you know, those 00:42:25.170 --> 00:42:27.369 arms that we see. Yeah. Usually for boat use. 00:42:28.349 --> 00:42:32.289 You didn't listen to my joke. I did. I did. That 00:42:32.289 --> 00:42:35.980 one deserved something. Froze to death. Fell 00:42:35.980 --> 00:42:38.440 from lighthouse. Fell from scaffolding. Killed 00:42:38.440 --> 00:42:42.940 in hurricane versus killed in tsunami. I don't 00:42:42.940 --> 00:42:44.539 know the difference. What do you mean you don't 00:42:44.539 --> 00:42:46.739 know the difference? I've forgotten. One big 00:42:46.739 --> 00:42:53.280 wave air. Why use more words when less words 00:42:53.280 --> 00:42:58.900 do? That's all I had. Fell from cargo net. Electric 00:42:58.900 --> 00:43:01.619 shock. This is what they show you. They're like, 00:43:01.699 --> 00:43:03.800 are you sure you want to be a lighthouse keeper? 00:43:03.840 --> 00:43:08.019 Job description. Okay. Thank you for indulging 00:43:08.019 --> 00:43:10.480 me. Of course. And thank you for three years 00:43:10.480 --> 00:43:14.539 of Lighthouse. Woo! Pretty good. We are awesome. 00:43:15.000 --> 00:43:17.079 If I could ask our listeners for one thing, it 00:43:17.079 --> 00:43:20.840 would be to go to our YouTube and to like or 00:43:20.840 --> 00:43:24.320 subscribe. I would note, I have never in three 00:43:24.320 --> 00:43:27.360 years asked for this. So this would mean a lot 00:43:27.360 --> 00:43:30.079 to me. Like and subscribe. I mean, both would 00:43:30.079 --> 00:43:32.239 be great, but just anything would be awesome. 00:43:32.280 --> 00:43:34.480 Yeah, some interaction of some kind. Because 00:43:34.480 --> 00:43:37.559 I do a lot of YouTube work and I don't know. 00:43:37.579 --> 00:43:39.840 I just want to make sure people want it. That's 00:43:39.840 --> 00:43:42.800 all. Yeah. And leave us a review on our website. 00:43:43.000 --> 00:43:45.780 Yeah. Because we only have three. And it's been 00:43:45.780 --> 00:43:47.139 a long time. They're all positive, though. Yeah. 00:43:47.460 --> 00:43:50.360 Five -star reviews. But it's been a long time 00:43:50.360 --> 00:43:52.719 since our last one, so. I know we're Jones in 00:43:52.719 --> 00:43:54.719 for some reviews. You can leave a review. You 00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:56.639 can leave a voicemail for us if you want, or 00:43:56.639 --> 00:43:58.739 send us an email or a message, anything you want 00:43:58.739 --> 00:44:02.139 us to talk about. Um, any stories you have. Yeah, 00:44:02.219 --> 00:44:05.460 we do have a nice lineup of listener lighthouses. 00:44:05.739 --> 00:44:09.659 Nice. Um, double L. So we haven't forgotten anyone 00:44:09.659 --> 00:44:12.760 who sends us a message. We get it. We've got 00:44:12.760 --> 00:44:15.800 a note in there and I have a system. It's just 00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:18.000 that I can't do a listener lighthouse every time. 00:44:18.059 --> 00:44:21.179 It's gotta be like a special occasion. all right. 00:44:23.099 --> 00:44:26.519 Well, thank you for listening. We will see you 00:44:26.519 --> 00:44:28.079 next time on the lighthouse.