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We're on.

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Hi everyone.

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I'm Emily.

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And I'm Vince.

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And this is the Lighthouse Lowdown.

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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["The Lighthouse Lowdown Theme"]

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Turn it up slightly.

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I've noticed our cat lays on it.

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Our cat lays on it?

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Mm-hmm.

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Oh, on the soundboard?

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Yes.

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That makes sense.

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Which is why sometimes the little things are off.

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Yeah, I've wondered, like in theory,

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why would I ever need to change?

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There's all a bunch of knobs and sliders and stuff.

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Yeah.

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Well, because of Bo.

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Well, now we know.

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Now we know.

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Only you could lock him down.

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If only.

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And we can move on to our episode.

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Now that we've discussed that.

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So I do have a history buoy today.

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All right, let's go.

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Very exciting.

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There will be nothing on the screen.

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Okay.

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It looked expectantly.

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I always like the screen.

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Yes.

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What's the buoy of the day?

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I'm gonna talk about the main lights program,

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which is something we mentioned in our last episode.

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And a lot of lighthouses we talk about in Maine.

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Oh, nice.

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Are given over to different owners by this program.

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Okay.

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So I'm gonna talk about what it is, where it came from.

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And so now our listeners will know in the future.

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Main lights program, M-A-I-N-E.

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Yes, the state.

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Gotcha.

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So the program was passed in 1996

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as a way to get lighthouses off the Coast Guard's hand

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without having to destroy them.

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And that's what they were having to do in Maine

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because lighthouses get old, they replace them

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with different little skeleton lights or buoys or something.

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And then what do you do with them?

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They're under the Coast Guard jurisdiction

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and there's no way for them to get rid of them

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unless they destroy them.

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Yeah.

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So it all started in 1982 when a group of military frogmen,

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which for people that don't know is basically soldiers.

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AV SEALs.

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The gear.

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What?

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Yeah, they're like.

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They're not Navy SEALs?

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I don't know.

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I thought that was a nickname for Navy SEALs was frogmen.

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I saw, frog, here, let me look at it.

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Man, if there's the own,

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military has its own branch called the frogmen.

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Frogmen is someone who is trained in scuba diving

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or swimming underwater in a tactical capacity

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that includes military

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and in some European countries, police work.

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So, okay, so Navy SEALs are frogmen,

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but frogmen are not all Navy SEALs.

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Are all Navy SEALs trained in scuba diving

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or swimming underwater in tactical capacity?

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Very much so, yes.

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Okay, well then we're both right.

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Cool.

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They exploded a lighthouse, like a keeper's house.

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They had gotten permission to.

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On purpose.

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Yeah, well they had gotten permission to blow it up

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as part of a training exercise.

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And so the keeper's house they blew up

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was built in 1903, it's the one on Mistake Island, which.

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The house was meant to implode,

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that was part of the training exercise.

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It was meant to implode, but instead it exploded

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and damaged the helipad that was out there

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and some of the panes in the tower.

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So obviously nobody knows that they're doing this.

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Also left a crater in the ground,

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which that island is all rock.

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So it's like still there.

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So they used a little too much C4.

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Sure.

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A lot too much.

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So the townspeople were obviously unaware

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that this was going to be happening

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and were very angry and heartbroken

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because they just used something historical

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and meaningful to the townspeople as a training exercise

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and it didn't even go well.

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Like it doesn't even, it wasn't even a good experience

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for anybody involved.

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So this spurred the formation of the Island Institute,

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which now basically works with coastal communities

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in environmental sustainability and restoration efforts.

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So they're still around.

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When the Heron Neck Light Keepers House

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was damaged by a fire, the Institute worked

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with the Coast Guard and Congress to pass legislation

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that allowed the Heron Neck Light to be transferred

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to private owners for free in exchange for restoring it.

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So it was just.

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It was mutually satisfactory.

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What is the word I'm trying to think of?

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Symbiotic.

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No, it was focused just on this one lighthouse

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in transferring it.

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So they wrote legislation in order to pass this on

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and it got them thinking, why don't we do this

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with all of the lighthouses that you guys

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want to be rid of?

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So the Coast Guard identified 36 lighthouses in Maine

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that could be transferred under the Maine Lights Program

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passed in 96 after all the legal material was funded

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by the donation of 300 limited edition prints

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of a painting of Southern Island light painted

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by artist Jamie Wyeth.

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That's nice.

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Ultimately 27 lighthouses were transferred

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into private ownership.

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The American Lighthouse Foundation scooped up several

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of the leftover lighthouses.

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So they weren't like all, they didn't get rid of them

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or anything.

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Two years after the transfers were completed,

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Congress passed the National Historic Lighthouse

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Preservation Act, which we talk about a lot too,

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which was based on the Maine Lights Program

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and established the process for transferring

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any federal property across the country

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to government agencies and nonprofits.

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So that was 1980s, 1990s, all this happened?

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1996.

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Wow.

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Maine Lights Program.

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I had thought the, what's the?

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What?

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The Act.

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Oh, the other one?

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The Maine Act.

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National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act.

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Yes, National Historic Lighthouse Preservation Act

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had happened earlier.

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I would have guessed like 60s or 70s

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because the Coast Guard got into lighthouses in the 30s.

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Right?

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Yeah.

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And then I'm thinking of Absicum Lighthouse

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where we talked about this kind of been booms and busts

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in lighthouse tourism and funding

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to go along with a lot of other financial trends

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but in the United States.

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But okay, so let's say circa 2000

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was when a lot of them were transferred to individuals

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and then our individuals representative

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of lighthouse friends groups, like friends of.

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Yeah, and it would be transferred

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to that whole organization, not just like people.

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Okay, nice.

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It had to be.

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It wasn't just someone bottom.

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Yeah, it had to be a government agency

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or like a nonprofit.

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That's smart.

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Agreed, but that's the main lights program.

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So anytime we're talking about a main lighthouse

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and they say it got transferred over,

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it's from this specifically.

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Cool.

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So there was a lot of cool history about it

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but I had to keep it history buoy length.

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Well, it's huge.

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I mean, that alone has been responsible

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for so many lighthouses still around today in 2024.

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And I wanted to go through and say which lighthouses

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and like what happened after that.

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Some of them had like, you know,

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changes of ownership and everything.

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But there was a good article about it.

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It will be in our show notes.

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Oh, good.

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Thanks.

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I can move on to our lighthouse of the day.

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Good buoy.

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Or should I say lighthouses?

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Woo hoo.

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Every time you press a button, I'm like, animal noises.

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Ah, ah, ah.

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Woo woo.

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It's natural.

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I can't help it.

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We rarely press the button.

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So anytime one goes off, I'm like, hey, the button.

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It's lights on.

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Wow.

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So ironically, I'm not covering a main lighthouse today.

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Oh, what a spin move.

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I know.

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I didn't even think about it.

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I had it picked out and then I was like,

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oh, we talked about main lights program.

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And we were like, what even is that?

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And like, I don't know.

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I should probably cover it.

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So we're actually going to South Carolina,

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Cape Romaine, South Carolina.

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Nice.

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Romaine like the lettuce?

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Like the lettuce.

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Nice.

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I think it had different names leading up to this,

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this final name, like Cape Roma.

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And then it was like Cape started with a C,

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some kind of French.

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Cabbage, iceberg.

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Sure.

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Actually, we might as well.

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But so normally when a new tower is built,

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you know, in the past, our past episodes,

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when a new tower is built,

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they tend to destroy the original tower,

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especially if it's like beat down or

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Goes to sea.

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Not serving the purpose correctly

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or whatever else.

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And yeah, like in the case of the three sisters,

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they just let them fall into the ocean.

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Sometimes they leave both lighthouses,

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even if one of them is not being used.

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And some cases like today and rarely are both still used

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even after they build a lighthouse

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to replace a different one.

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So this is the case for the Cape Romaine lighthouses.

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Okay, nice.

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In 1823, Congress appropriated $10,000

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to build a lighthouse on Cape Romaine,

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planning to use an old stone windmill

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that mariners had been mistaking for a lighthouse

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near Charleston.

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So they kept seeing this windmill

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thinking it was a lighthouse

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and mistaking it for like a lighthouse

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on their charts and stuff.

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It's a shame they didn't see the big windmill part.

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Just the tower.

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Yeah, I wonder how tall this thing was.

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It must have been a light up high.

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And they're like, oh yeah.

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I mean, a light though,

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why would they put a light on a windmill?

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I mean, they wouldn't put a light,

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but you could see a crack. Yeah, like a day mark

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sort of thing.

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I don't know.

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It had to have happened several times

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00:09:45,560 --> 00:09:47,180
for this to be applicable, but anyway.

279
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The area of this windmill was prone to flooding.

280
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And so they decided to build it

281
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a slightly higher elevation.

282
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And that land was owned already by somebody else.

283
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So they had to go through, of course,

284
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the lengthy negotiation phase.

285
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And by then the funds that were appropriated

286
00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,600
for this lighthouse were sent to surplus funds,

287
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which means you can't access them

288
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for what their original purpose was.

289
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It's like a shame.

290
00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,360
So they had to wait until 1826

291
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when Congress appropriated $17,000 for the lighthouse,

292
00:10:18,680 --> 00:10:20,600
which was finished a year later.

293
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Nice, good timeline.

294
00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:24,560
Here's a picture of the area we're talking about.

295
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New Charleston.

296
00:10:25,400 --> 00:10:28,220
Yes, it's like 30 miles from Charleston.

297
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I'll talk about McClellanville

298
00:10:30,120 --> 00:10:35,120
is how I'm deciding to pronounce it, with no background.

299
00:10:35,120 --> 00:10:37,360
Yeah, I was just up in Goose Creek.

300
00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:38,280
What's Goose Creek?

301
00:10:38,280 --> 00:10:39,720
That's where I was at.

302
00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:40,560
Oh, for work?

303
00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,400
Yeah.

304
00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:42,920
Interesting.

305
00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:43,760
Well, cool.

306
00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:44,580
Not far.

307
00:10:44,580 --> 00:10:45,420
You know exactly what I'm talking about today then.

308
00:10:45,420 --> 00:10:46,260
I do.

309
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So I just pulled up a picture of the original lighthouse.

310
00:10:50,740 --> 00:10:52,400
It wasn't white at the beginning.

311
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This picture is a little bit later.

312
00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:59,000
65 foot brick conical tower with lamp and reflectors.

313
00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:01,200
So we're not to the era of,

314
00:11:01,200 --> 00:11:03,920
well, we are to the era of Fresnel lenses almost,

315
00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:07,200
but this one is still a lamp and reflectors.

316
00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:11,240
It looks like it's not an enclosed cupola.

317
00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:14,560
Like the lantern room is more like skeletal.

318
00:11:14,560 --> 00:11:15,920
Is it white or?

319
00:11:15,920 --> 00:11:16,920
I think it's white.

320
00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:17,760
Okay.

321
00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:21,300
And this is a really old photo, like 1800s still.

322
00:11:21,300 --> 00:11:22,160
Very cool.

323
00:11:22,160 --> 00:11:24,640
Exposure probably wasn't 100%.

324
00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:26,140
Maybe it's just metal.

325
00:11:26,140 --> 00:11:27,120
Yeah, true.

326
00:11:27,120 --> 00:11:27,960
I'm pretty sure it was white.

327
00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:29,920
I remember reading that it was white.

328
00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,420
It was built on Raccoon Key,

329
00:11:31,420 --> 00:11:34,240
which is now known as Lighthouse Island

330
00:11:34,240 --> 00:11:36,120
because there are lighthouses on it.

331
00:11:36,120 --> 00:11:37,520
Is it haunted by chance?

332
00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:39,960
Cause look at that kid in front of the house.

333
00:11:39,960 --> 00:11:40,800
Oh God.

334
00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:43,640
Anyone who wants to go see it.

335
00:11:43,640 --> 00:11:45,560
It's a very spooky photo.

336
00:11:45,560 --> 00:11:46,920
Very creepy.

337
00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,200
I wouldn't be surprised if it was haunted

338
00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,040
and I'll tell you more about it later.

339
00:11:52,040 --> 00:11:54,360
So it's Lighthouse Island now, used to be Raccoon Key.

340
00:11:54,360 --> 00:11:55,840
There was a few other names for it too,

341
00:11:55,840 --> 00:11:57,540
but I'm sticking with those,

342
00:11:57,540 --> 00:12:00,800
which is six miles offshore from the mainland.

343
00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:02,960
And as there were no ports in the vicinity,

344
00:12:02,960 --> 00:12:05,000
the main purpose was to warn away from a shoal

345
00:12:05,000 --> 00:12:08,560
that was nine miles southeast of this little island.

346
00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,600
Charleston then.

347
00:12:10,600 --> 00:12:11,440
Yeah.

348
00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:15,840
But the beacon they built was too weak,

349
00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:19,400
which seems, if my memory is correct,

350
00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:24,680
the one who designed and built this was Winslow Lewis,

351
00:12:24,680 --> 00:12:27,400
who had a hand in, well,

352
00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:31,720
who I think invented the lamp and reflectors combination.

353
00:12:31,720 --> 00:12:32,760
Okay, I don't know that.

354
00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:36,080
Okay, and he built a couple of lighthouses,

355
00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:36,920
like designed and built,

356
00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:39,240
but I don't think that's what he was trained in.

357
00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:40,600
So.

358
00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,040
You don't think he was trained in?

359
00:12:42,040 --> 00:12:45,480
Yeah, I have a vague memory that Winslow Lewis

360
00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,480
built some lighthouses that failed like within a decade,

361
00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,320
like very quickly.

362
00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:50,160
Oof.

363
00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,160
But I don't know him.

364
00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,320
Yeah.

365
00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:54,400
So you never really know.

366
00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:55,880
Maybe, that's true.

367
00:12:55,880 --> 00:12:58,920
Could be wrong, just a little precursor there, everybody.

368
00:12:58,920 --> 00:13:01,520
How many islands are called Lighthouse Island, do you think?

369
00:13:01,520 --> 00:13:04,240
I was thinking about that because of how every time

370
00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:05,840
we drive down a road to a lighthouse,

371
00:13:05,840 --> 00:13:07,040
it's called Lighthouse Road.

372
00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,040
It's like surrounded by a water island.

373
00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:09,880
Yeah.

374
00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:10,840
Oh my God.

375
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:12,600
Beaches Island.

376
00:13:12,600 --> 00:13:14,200
Oh wow.

377
00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,720
The name was changed at some point,

378
00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:18,360
and I don't have in my notes of when that was,

379
00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:20,800
but it obviously has had different names.

380
00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,040
Well, I'm getting carried away, but Hog Island?

381
00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:23,880
Uh-huh.

382
00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:27,400
Hog Island, we talked about first being in the Bahamas,

383
00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,960
is a common, that's Paradise Island, that one.

384
00:13:29,960 --> 00:13:31,680
Yeah, yeah.

385
00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:34,680
Look it up, cruise store, cruise, cruise stores.

386
00:13:34,680 --> 00:13:35,680
Oh my gosh.

387
00:13:35,680 --> 00:13:36,520
Cruise ships stop there.

388
00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:37,360
You buy your cruise.

389
00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:39,080
You buy a cruise there, no.

390
00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:41,760
But anyways, that's worth a look up as well.

391
00:13:41,760 --> 00:13:44,440
But there's several other hog islands I've stumbled upon

392
00:13:44,440 --> 00:13:45,640
since then. No way.

393
00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:47,960
I think that was something people did is they put hogs,

394
00:13:47,960 --> 00:13:49,160
they put pigs on an island.

395
00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,240
Oh yeah.

396
00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:51,400
To keep them there.

397
00:13:51,400 --> 00:13:52,600
That makes sense.

398
00:13:52,600 --> 00:13:54,200
They would reproduce and grow,

399
00:13:54,200 --> 00:13:57,160
and you'd go take some and anyways.

400
00:13:57,160 --> 00:13:59,360
They talk about this island once it's abandoned.

401
00:13:59,360 --> 00:14:00,440
Oh really?

402
00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:01,680
It's covered in goats,

403
00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:03,320
and they had to actually remove the goats

404
00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:05,080
because they were messing everything up.

405
00:14:05,080 --> 00:14:06,840
Nice.

406
00:14:06,840 --> 00:14:09,200
So maybe that's, it could be Goat Island.

407
00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:10,040
Goat Island.

408
00:14:10,040 --> 00:14:10,880
Yeah, the Lighthouse.

409
00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,880
Greatest of all time.

410
00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:14,560
So 1847, they redid the beacon,

411
00:14:14,560 --> 00:14:16,280
but it still wasn't good enough,

412
00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:20,440
and described as quote, small and useless

413
00:14:20,440 --> 00:14:21,280
by the Lighthouse Board.

414
00:14:21,280 --> 00:14:22,120
Oh my gosh.

415
00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:22,960
Oh very sad.

416
00:14:22,960 --> 00:14:23,960
It failed twice.

417
00:14:23,960 --> 00:14:25,560
I know, it's just a little guy.

418
00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:28,880
He was doing his best.

419
00:14:28,880 --> 00:14:32,960
So 1852, Congress appropriated $20,000,

420
00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:37,120
and then another $30,000 to build a quote,

421
00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:40,440
first class sea coast light.

422
00:14:40,440 --> 00:14:41,640
And we love it when they say that

423
00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:42,840
because they're always tall,

424
00:14:42,840 --> 00:14:45,040
they're always first order and sexy.

425
00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:45,880
Nice.

426
00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,080
I got a photo.

427
00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:50,640
Did I tell you I got made fun of at work

428
00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,320
for describing an architecture thing as sexy?

429
00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:55,960
No, I wasn't being serious.

430
00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:59,880
I was trying to say that there's a plain Jane,

431
00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:01,720
or whatever, a plain normal,

432
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:02,960
and then there's this one,

433
00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,960
and I was just having fun with the conversation.

434
00:15:04,960 --> 00:15:06,080
I was like, this one's sexy.

435
00:15:06,080 --> 00:15:08,800
This one's curved, and it's got the louvers,

436
00:15:08,800 --> 00:15:10,480
and it's got the paint match.

437
00:15:11,480 --> 00:15:13,480
And the architect I was talking to,

438
00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:15,600
project manager, she was like,

439
00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:20,000
I have never heard anyone describe anything like that as sexy.

440
00:15:20,000 --> 00:15:21,600
Inanimate and HVAC is sexy.

441
00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,520
Louvers, it was a rain hood or something.

442
00:15:24,520 --> 00:15:25,360
Okay.

443
00:15:25,360 --> 00:15:27,360
Not a sexy thing.

444
00:15:27,360 --> 00:15:29,000
Well, you and I are on the same wavelength.

445
00:15:29,000 --> 00:15:30,680
Sexy lighthouses, look at it.

446
00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:33,280
We pull up a photo of the two lighthouses next to each other,

447
00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:34,520
and this is how they stayed.

448
00:15:34,520 --> 00:15:37,840
So they're best friends.

449
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:40,920
One is labeled Old Town, and the other is New,

450
00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:41,960
Oh, Tower.

451
00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:45,160
Old Tower.

452
00:15:45,160 --> 00:15:49,880
It's the cursive E-R that's getting me.

453
00:15:49,880 --> 00:15:51,840
But I was gonna say,

454
00:15:51,840 --> 00:15:55,560
I have never heard them described as Old Town and New Town.

455
00:15:55,560 --> 00:15:57,480
That's because they're not.

456
00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,920
Because we needed a 65 inch screen

457
00:15:59,920 --> 00:16:01,960
to see Old Tower and New Tower.

458
00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:02,800
That's what it is.

459
00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:05,240
It's that now we're on a big screen, and I can see.

460
00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,080
What is that though?

461
00:16:06,080 --> 00:16:08,320
Lighted Janie, 1858.

462
00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:09,480
One.

463
00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:10,720
J-A-N-Y.

464
00:16:10,720 --> 00:16:11,560
Janie.

465
00:16:11,560 --> 00:16:12,400
January.

466
00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:15,080
I don't, yes.

467
00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:15,920
So.

468
00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,160
So, they are weird.

469
00:16:17,160 --> 00:16:18,320
Yeah, they're handwriting.

470
00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,320
Whoever wrote this in 1858.

471
00:16:20,320 --> 00:16:21,160
Whoever wrote this is weird.

472
00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:23,880
We've established it moving on.

473
00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:27,440
So anyway, the New Tower is 150 foot natural brick

474
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:28,680
octagonal tower.

475
00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:29,520
Oh, sorry.

476
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,080
Octagonal tower.

477
00:16:31,080 --> 00:16:32,040
Octagonal.

478
00:16:32,040 --> 00:16:34,320
And was built with a white flashing first order

479
00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:35,360
for Nelons.

480
00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,480
Very hot.

481
00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:39,880
Smoking hot tower.

482
00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:40,720
Nice.

483
00:16:40,720 --> 00:16:41,540
What's that range?

484
00:16:41,540 --> 00:16:43,160
34 miles?

485
00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:44,320
No.

486
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:46,800
Probably at most like 20 some.

487
00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:47,640
23. I'm gonna say 30 plus.

488
00:16:47,640 --> 00:16:49,240
25, okay.

489
00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:50,120
Hot.

490
00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:52,320
The two towers were easy to spot during the day

491
00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:55,480
as the original tower was painted with red and white bands,

492
00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,560
which you can see in this picture,

493
00:16:57,560 --> 00:17:00,240
there's some remnants of, but sorry.

494
00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,200
The brick is starting to show through the white paint.

495
00:17:02,200 --> 00:17:06,240
So, this old tower, while it remained and was lit,

496
00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,200
was kind of neglected.

497
00:17:09,200 --> 00:17:11,440
And this is the one they ended up blowing up?

498
00:17:11,440 --> 00:17:12,920
No, that's separate.

499
00:17:12,920 --> 00:17:14,760
Okay, I was gonna say that I'm gonna be surprised

500
00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,160
it damaged the new tower.

501
00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:17,120
This is what I was talking about,

502
00:17:17,120 --> 00:17:19,040
how ironic it was that I wasn't even gonna cover it.

503
00:17:19,040 --> 00:17:20,480
Oh my gosh, we're not even talking about Maine.

504
00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,080
Yeah, I know, we're talking South Carolina, baby.

505
00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:24,800
You even told, okay.

506
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,400
But I was like, maybe I should cover that lighthouse

507
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:29,580
if I'm gonna talk about the Maine Lights program.

508
00:17:29,580 --> 00:17:31,200
Got the ball rolling and everything?

509
00:17:31,200 --> 00:17:32,880
No, that's something else.

510
00:17:32,880 --> 00:17:35,000
Imagine if someone just skipped the lighthouse buoy

511
00:17:35,000 --> 00:17:36,040
and they're listening to this.

512
00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,840
Yeah, they're like, what are you talking about?

513
00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:38,680
What?

514
00:17:38,680 --> 00:17:40,360
Do you think people, do you think we can skip

515
00:17:40,360 --> 00:17:41,600
our history buoys?

516
00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:42,440
No.

517
00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,480
All right, listeners, if our history buoys

518
00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,760
are really boring, let us know.

519
00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:47,640
We can stop.

520
00:17:47,640 --> 00:17:50,720
Actually, it would be a large weight off my shoulders.

521
00:17:50,720 --> 00:17:53,880
I actually enjoyed doing this one though.

522
00:17:53,880 --> 00:17:57,080
I think things like legislation is more exciting

523
00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,920
because it's important and permanent.

524
00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:02,520
And very fun.

525
00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:03,360
For sure.

526
00:18:03,360 --> 00:18:04,920
Widespread.

527
00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:06,120
Okay, sorry.

528
00:18:06,120 --> 00:18:07,800
Red and white bands on the old tower.

529
00:18:07,800 --> 00:18:10,240
New tower was a reddish gray from the brick.

530
00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:11,540
So it wasn't even painted.

531
00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:12,640
It was just.

532
00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:13,480
Natural.

533
00:18:13,480 --> 00:18:15,100
It's dark, moody.

534
00:18:15,100 --> 00:18:16,760
Kind of sexy.

535
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:21,760
I was like, I cannot say it again.

536
00:18:22,280 --> 00:18:23,960
That's too much.

537
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:24,840
I'm just joking around,

538
00:18:24,840 --> 00:18:26,920
but it is a really nice looking tower.

539
00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,500
And octagonal's fun.

540
00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:32,600
We don't have a lot of octagonal lighthouses.

541
00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,080
Nope, not a lot.

542
00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:37,320
At night, the original light was fixed red.

543
00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:38,320
Love that.

544
00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:40,920
With the new flashing once every minute.

545
00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:44,520
So very slow revolution going on.

546
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,440
Had clockwork mechanism and everything.

547
00:18:46,440 --> 00:18:47,280
Nice.

548
00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:49,520
This is the first lighthouse also that I saw

549
00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:52,120
that mentioned it was built by slave labor.

550
00:18:52,120 --> 00:18:52,960
Oh.

551
00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,600
Which is fitting as just a few miles south.

552
00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:58,840
The first shots of the Civil War were fired at Fort Sumter.

553
00:18:58,840 --> 00:19:01,000
So I wasn't gonna dive too deep into that.

554
00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:03,680
I could, but it was the first lighthouse I've seen

555
00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:06,000
that specified how it was built.

556
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:07,280
1800s.

557
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,840
I never considered that, that that would be a thing.

558
00:19:09,840 --> 00:19:12,800
When was the decoration?

559
00:19:12,800 --> 00:19:13,640
Independence?

560
00:19:13,640 --> 00:19:14,480
No, no, no, no.

561
00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,120
Oh, I'm like, this is drilled into us.

562
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:18,280
Oh, come on, I'm failing.

563
00:19:18,280 --> 00:19:20,600
The proclamation emancipation.

564
00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:21,440
Oh.

565
00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:22,280
That's what I was trying to say.

566
00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:23,100
Let's look it up.

567
00:19:23,100 --> 00:19:24,280
Just for curiosity.

568
00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,920
Cause I know when I visited Charleston years ago,

569
00:19:26,920 --> 00:19:31,080
we talked the historical tour focused on slave markets.

570
00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:32,440
1863.

571
00:19:32,440 --> 00:19:33,620
Significant.

572
00:19:33,620 --> 00:19:35,200
Oh man.

573
00:19:35,200 --> 00:19:40,200
Some of the last legal slaves had to build a lighthouse.

574
00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,360
So the lighthouse lantern room was destroyed

575
00:19:42,360 --> 00:19:44,520
to avoid being used by either side in the war,

576
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:45,840
which I think is interesting.

577
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:48,120
Is that we've heard in the past when it's destroyed

578
00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:51,360
by like artillery or it's destroyed

579
00:19:51,360 --> 00:19:53,680
because they dismantled it and lost it or something.

580
00:19:53,680 --> 00:19:56,200
But this is like, they beat the crap out of it

581
00:19:56,200 --> 00:19:57,880
so that neither side could use it.

582
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:59,280
That happened to a lot of lighthouses.

583
00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:04,280
Yeah, but like I haven't heard about any that are like,

584
00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:08,080
instead of preserving the lens for use later,

585
00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,440
they just in the moment just destroyed it.

586
00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:12,040
I think it was, yeah, I don't know.

587
00:20:12,040 --> 00:20:14,200
Like I said, I don't know the history of the civil war.

588
00:20:14,200 --> 00:20:17,440
I was gonna say it's probably too close to the borderline

589
00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:20,520
to really can't afford to lose it, but don't know.

590
00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:21,360
True.

591
00:20:21,360 --> 00:20:24,240
But it was fixed and relit in 1866.

592
00:20:24,240 --> 00:20:25,920
So three years after the end.

593
00:20:25,920 --> 00:20:27,600
Wow, nice.

594
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:29,120
Over this time, the tower had developed

595
00:20:29,120 --> 00:20:34,120
a very noticeable lean, which you may see in later photos.

596
00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:36,880
It looks very nice and upright in this picture

597
00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:41,880
that I have up, but it started leaning almost two feet

598
00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,920
and the lean increased by three inches within the next year,

599
00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:47,720
but then apparently stabilized

600
00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,760
so they didn't do anything about it.

601
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,160
But it's gotten worse as time has gone on.

602
00:20:52,160 --> 00:20:53,400
Oh no.

603
00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:55,880
The station also had three keepers dwellings

604
00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:56,880
and a boathouse.

605
00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,760
Two keepers dwellings were added at the same time

606
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,080
this tower was added because they added

607
00:21:02,440 --> 00:21:03,280
More staff.

608
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:05,800
Two assistant keepers to the existing headkeeper

609
00:21:05,800 --> 00:21:09,320
because now we have a clockwork lens.

610
00:21:09,320 --> 00:21:11,920
We have a Fresnel lens and a very tall tower.

611
00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:14,920
So all of it's just like a ton of added work.

612
00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:19,920
So they added two assistants and two assistant dwellings.

613
00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,880
And in 1886, the old tower got a concrete floor

614
00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:27,040
and a fireproof door so that it could serve as an oil house.

615
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:28,720
So that's pretty neat.

616
00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:29,600
Fancy oil house.

617
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:32,440
Yeah, you know, usually we have oil houses that are cute,

618
00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:36,600
small, red, like in our last episode,

619
00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:38,200
but this time they just converted the old one

620
00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:39,120
into an oil house.

621
00:21:39,120 --> 00:21:40,600
It's freaking cool.

622
00:21:40,600 --> 00:21:41,440
I'm kidding.

623
00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:43,120
It's funny to me, it didn't have a concrete floor

624
00:21:43,120 --> 00:21:44,600
before then.

625
00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,520
You think it's stone probably.

626
00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,360
Dirt?

627
00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:48,200
Whatever.

628
00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:49,960
Yeah, I know.

629
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:50,800
Whatever's inside the structure.

630
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:52,440
I didn't think about it.

631
00:21:52,440 --> 00:21:55,040
I think I've only seen concrete floors

632
00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,920
or maybe I haven't paid attention.

633
00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:58,320
I guess I haven't either.

634
00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:00,760
I haven't looked too closely at the floor.

635
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,080
Too busy looking up.

636
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:05,800
I have some photos of Long Point floor.

637
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,000
Or is it with the other one?

638
00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:07,840
It was near Long Point.

639
00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,200
Oh, that's right, Wood End.

640
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:12,240
Yeah, it was Wood End, pretty sure.

641
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,080
We'll have to take a look.

642
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:15,680
I bet it's concrete.

643
00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,520
I think it is.

644
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:19,440
Because Long Point and Wood End,

645
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,920
they didn't look like, those are added later.

646
00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,680
They used to be keepers' houses with lens on them.

647
00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,720
Oh really, integral, I forgot about that.

648
00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:30,840
From what I remember.

649
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,480
We'll have to actually do episodes on them.

650
00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:36,480
Anyway, eventually the old tower was painted white,

651
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520
which is what we saw in the first picture that I pulled up,

652
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,000
with the new tower being red.

653
00:22:41,000 --> 00:22:43,760
And then the new tower was painted white on the bottom half

654
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,480
with the top half painted alternating white and black.

655
00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:48,320
Cool.

656
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:49,880
And then they painted the old tower red.

657
00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:51,400
So that's what we have today.

658
00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:52,600
Is it really showing off?

659
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:54,120
Yeah, very unique.

660
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,240
It's because it's octagonal again

661
00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,400
that we get these cool art alternating colors on the sides.

662
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:02,040
Why are you smiling at me?

663
00:23:02,040 --> 00:23:07,040
You think I'm goofy?

664
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:08,920
Yep.

665
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:12,720
1931, the new tower was modernized.

666
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:15,560
So they added electric generators,

667
00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,440
replaced the incandescent oil vapor lamp

668
00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,200
with a 500 watt electric bulb,

669
00:23:21,200 --> 00:23:23,800
which increased the lights candle power

670
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:28,720
from 280,000 to 430,000.

671
00:23:28,720 --> 00:23:33,720
So we got a good double in, less than double of our power

672
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:35,480
inside the Phenellis.

673
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:36,320
It's candle power.

674
00:23:38,040 --> 00:23:41,840
McClellanville's villagers began holding cape parties,

675
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,160
is what they called it,

676
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,160
because it's really lonely out there at Lighthouse Island.

677
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:48,200
And there were three families living on this island

678
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,000
by themselves and it's six miles offshore.

679
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:53,240
So it's not like our, I keep saying our last episode,

680
00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,560
but our last episode, they were a hundred yards away.

681
00:23:55,560 --> 00:23:57,360
They just come over whenever.

682
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,920
This was like pretty secluded and lonely.

683
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:02,800
So they'd have cape parties and they would play games,

684
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,560
swim, catch fish and collect crabs and oysters.

685
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:08,640
And then they would roast all of the food

686
00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,680
that they find at the end and eat together.

687
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:12,560
It sounds awesome.

688
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:13,960
Pretty cute.

689
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,520
The lighthouse was automated after the last headkeeper

690
00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:18,240
had an accident with acid,

691
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:21,160
which I didn't get to see too much into it.

692
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,840
Someone mentioned an explosion and there was acid

693
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:29,280
and he got burns on his face and his eyeballs in 1937.

694
00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:32,480
And that was the end of, they just automated it

695
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,920
instead of bringing new people on.

696
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:36,400
It's hard to replace that guy.

697
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:37,240
Yeah, whoever he was.

698
00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:39,000
What happened to the last guy?

699
00:24:39,000 --> 00:24:40,760
Explosion of acid?

700
00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,400
I was like, oh, maybe we shouldn't.

701
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:45,000
It was like, the source that I read said,

702
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:48,080
pouring acid into a container or something.

703
00:24:48,080 --> 00:24:50,320
I'm like, why do we have acid?

704
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:54,080
And what about pouring acid makes an explosion?

705
00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:54,920
You tell me, chemical engineer.

706
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,160
It's some weird stuff.

707
00:24:56,160 --> 00:24:57,000
No, thank you.

708
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:02,320
The lighthouse was actually abandoned in 1947

709
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,200
and has been sitting since then.

710
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:06,040
No big renovations.

711
00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:06,880
Really?

712
00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:07,800
No visitors.

713
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:09,640
I mean, there's some visitors and I'll talk about it too,

714
00:25:09,640 --> 00:25:13,760
but it's, yeah, it's just full on abandoned.

715
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:14,640
I know.

716
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:16,800
It was added to the national,

717
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:20,000
oh, another thing is that the shoal that it was marking

718
00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:25,000
was they marked it with lit buoys, so.

719
00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:28,520
To replace the need for the lighthouse, light tower.

720
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:29,680
Exactly.

721
00:25:29,680 --> 00:25:31,400
They added these to the National Register

722
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,520
of Historic Places in 1981,

723
00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,120
so they're protected at least.

724
00:25:35,120 --> 00:25:40,120
And right now, the island is a refuge,

725
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:42,600
like a wildlife refuge.

726
00:25:42,600 --> 00:25:43,920
For birds?

727
00:25:43,920 --> 00:25:45,720
Yeah, birds and some other stuff.

728
00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:48,840
Some of those creatures.

729
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:50,280
Wildlife.

730
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:51,120
That stuff.

731
00:25:51,120 --> 00:25:51,960
So they had a couple,

732
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:53,600
I'm gonna go through a couple of stories,

733
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,880
a couple of noteworthy keepers during this time,

734
00:25:55,880 --> 00:25:58,240
so it kind of revolves around them.

735
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:01,800
First one I'm gonna talk about is why this lighthouse

736
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,880
may be haunted.

737
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:08,880
Andrew Johnson, head keeper from 1867 to 1875.

738
00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:15,920
So about eight years, head keeper, really early on.

739
00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:20,240
In 1873, keeper Johnson returned from duty around 9 p.m.

740
00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:23,280
to find his wife on the bed, her throat slit.

741
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,120
Oh my God.

742
00:26:24,120 --> 00:26:26,080
From ear to ear.

743
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:27,240
And he ran from the house,

744
00:26:27,240 --> 00:26:30,040
yelling that she had commit suicide.

745
00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:34,360
I'm like, who would commit suicide in such a fashion?

746
00:26:34,360 --> 00:26:35,200
That'd be hard.

747
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:38,240
And why would you automatically assume,

748
00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:39,880
I'm immediately suspicious.

749
00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:42,280
When I heard that, I was like,

750
00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:44,200
you don't come out and just.

751
00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,160
I can't believe she did that to herself.

752
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,000
Did you see?

753
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:48,160
Look what she did to herself.

754
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:49,360
It's like, you're telling me,

755
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:51,040
oh, she must have been a strong woman

756
00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:53,680
to be able to commit that much.

757
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,640
So they ruled it a suicide.

758
00:26:55,640 --> 00:26:58,440
But there was a gun nearby, a loaded gun,

759
00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:01,760
so if she was going to commit suicide,

760
00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,000
maybe that would have been an easier way to go.

761
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,320
Eh.

762
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:07,240
What do you mean, eh?

763
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,440
There was a razor nearby, and I just think

764
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,600
that that, I just think maybe she was trying

765
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:14,960
to defend herself, and that's why there was a gun.

766
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:15,800
Was a gun?

767
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:16,760
I mean, I don't know.

768
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,600
I don't know how you would, yeah, anyways.

769
00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,200
Yeah, anyway, her jewelry was missing,

770
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:25,640
along with $1400 that she had taken out

771
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:27,720
of the bank 10 days earlier.

772
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:31,480
And at that time, $1400 was $25,000.

773
00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:32,440
That is suspicious.

774
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:33,320
Very suspicious.

775
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,520
If she commits suicide, where is her stuff?

776
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,440
So what's the, supposedly, she was gonna leave him

777
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,200
and took out all the money, and he found out and killed her?

778
00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:45,640
Yeah, so a couple of interesting facts here.

779
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,720
Mrs. Johnson had withdrawn all of her money.

780
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:52,520
This wasn't just like she had withdrawn money for something.

781
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:55,480
She had cleared out her bank account,

782
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,200
and she had lots of gold and diamond jewelry

783
00:27:57,200 --> 00:28:00,680
that she immigrated from Sweden with.

784
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:02,560
So it's like family stuff.

785
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:04,520
All of it was missing from the crime scene,

786
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:09,520
and Keeper Johnson's jewelry and belongings were untouched.

787
00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:10,840
So he just, okay.

788
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:14,840
So there's speculation that she planned to leave him,

789
00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:16,840
and he murdered her in a rage.

790
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240
Assistant Keeper Lee and his wife

791
00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:21,160
were the last ones to see her alive,

792
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:24,800
because supposedly at 6 p.m., she went over to their place,

793
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:26,440
and that was the last time anybody

794
00:28:26,440 --> 00:28:27,840
had seen anything from her.

795
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,840
They both left the lighthouse board,

796
00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,640
left the island very shortly after this happened,

797
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:36,640
and just disappeared.

798
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,920
So they're also missing.

799
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,120
They're also under suspicion.

800
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:43,960
Keeper Johnson continued for two more years

801
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,520
until he was put onto a new lighthouse.

802
00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:47,360
I'm like.

803
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:48,600
Oh yeah, that shit was crazy.

804
00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:50,200
I guess back to work.

805
00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:51,680
I better crawl into bed.

806
00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:52,960
We better change these sheets.

807
00:28:52,960 --> 00:28:54,040
Take the oil up.

808
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:54,880
Like what?

809
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:57,120
I don't know.

810
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,400
It's all suspicious, but there's also like,

811
00:29:00,400 --> 00:29:03,800
oh, so this is, okay, this is what I forgot about the gun.

812
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,280
It had, someone had attempted to fire it,

813
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,880
and it misfired.

814
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,560
There's all kinds of different storylines.

815
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:15,560
If it was suicide, she may have tried to use the gun first.

816
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:20,880
So I saw online one of the, it was on Lighthouse Digest.

817
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,140
They did an article on it, and they speculated

818
00:29:25,140 --> 00:29:28,940
that if it was suicide, he could have known

819
00:29:28,940 --> 00:29:33,840
that she was trying to leave and hid her belongings,

820
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:36,000
her money and her jewelry and everything,

821
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,240
so she couldn't leave, because where would she go?

822
00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:39,080
Escape, yeah.

823
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,920
And so she tore apart the house,

824
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,200
because the house was ransacked, by the way.

825
00:29:44,200 --> 00:29:47,760
She probably tore through the house looking for it,

826
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:50,920
couldn't find it, and felt that she had no other options.

827
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,080
And so then the gun misfired.

828
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,460
She couldn't use that, so then she used a razor, I suppose.

829
00:29:56,460 --> 00:29:59,160
But I'm like, I guess, I guess that's plausible.

830
00:30:00,340 --> 00:30:04,760
So in the 1800s, semi-automatic firearms were not popular,

831
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,220
if there was any at all.

832
00:30:06,220 --> 00:30:09,640
Revolvers were still most common for handguns.

833
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,480
This could have not been a revolver as well.

834
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,320
It could have been a shotgun or a rifle.

835
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:14,160
Oh.

836
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:16,920
I just don't know.

837
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:20,320
But if it was a revolver, and so what I'm guessing

838
00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:25,320
is it misfired, so the primer on the back of the cartridge,

839
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:30,160
typically when a gun shoots a bullet,

840
00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:31,880
there's a little thing called a hammer.

841
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,800
It's a little piece of metal, and it strikes the primer

842
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:36,680
with quite a bit of speed when you pull the trigger.

843
00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:39,280
The primer starts a little fire inside of the cartridge,

844
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,520
which lights the gunpowder, then the bullet goes pew

845
00:30:42,520 --> 00:30:43,800
down the gun barrel.

846
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:48,800
So maybe the cartridge, or the primer had a strike on it.

847
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,960
It was dented, which still happens today.

848
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:55,600
It's very rare, but some bullets are just duds.

849
00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:56,980
Or they're squib rounds.

850
00:30:56,980 --> 00:31:01,980
A squib round is where not enough of the gunpowder ignites,

851
00:31:01,980 --> 00:31:05,540
so the bullet actually gets lodged in the barrel,

852
00:31:05,540 --> 00:31:06,740
and the gun's unusable.

853
00:31:06,740 --> 00:31:08,660
If you fire it again, it explodes.

854
00:31:08,660 --> 00:31:09,500
Oh.

855
00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:12,340
Because there's compression happening inside the barrel.

856
00:31:12,340 --> 00:31:14,860
So I don't know.

857
00:31:14,860 --> 00:31:16,660
If that happened, it would have made a lot of noise,

858
00:31:16,660 --> 00:31:18,620
and she would have severely injured herself.

859
00:31:18,620 --> 00:31:22,500
If it was a squib round, and she caught it,

860
00:31:22,500 --> 00:31:25,340
and was like, oh, well, this isn't gonna work.

861
00:31:25,340 --> 00:31:27,380
That's pretty wild.

862
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:28,400
Most people don't.

863
00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:31,380
Maybe in that scenario you would.

864
00:31:31,380 --> 00:31:32,220
Yeah.

865
00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:35,860
Or maybe if it didn't work once, she's just not familiar,

866
00:31:35,860 --> 00:31:36,860
and she's like, oh.

867
00:31:38,540 --> 00:31:40,580
Imagine building up to shoot yourself.

868
00:31:40,580 --> 00:31:41,740
Yeah.

869
00:31:41,740 --> 00:31:43,060
You can't do that again.

870
00:31:43,060 --> 00:31:43,900
Right.

871
00:31:43,900 --> 00:31:44,720
I don't know.

872
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,460
But apparently can.

873
00:31:46,460 --> 00:31:48,300
I'm speaking pretty cavalierly.

874
00:31:48,300 --> 00:31:49,780
About this, but.

875
00:31:49,780 --> 00:31:51,880
Carve your neck with a razor.

876
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:53,580
From ear to ear?

877
00:31:53,580 --> 00:31:55,580
I feel like you'd get about, like maybe.

878
00:31:55,580 --> 00:31:57,300
I don't know.

879
00:31:57,300 --> 00:31:59,700
You know what, guys, I feel like you would quit,

880
00:31:59,700 --> 00:32:02,300
and not really see it all the way through.

881
00:32:02,300 --> 00:32:03,620
It's a very strange.

882
00:32:03,620 --> 00:32:06,100
What I think happened, knowing nothing else,

883
00:32:06,100 --> 00:32:07,220
is that he murdered her.

884
00:32:07,220 --> 00:32:08,940
She tried to use the gun, and it didn't work.

885
00:32:08,940 --> 00:32:09,780
Yeah.

886
00:32:09,780 --> 00:32:10,600
By chance.

887
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:12,340
And he probably knows enough about it to be like.

888
00:32:12,340 --> 00:32:14,020
And it just made him so mad,

889
00:32:14,020 --> 00:32:15,260
and he was physically stronger,

890
00:32:15,260 --> 00:32:16,700
that he couldn't do that.

891
00:32:16,700 --> 00:32:18,260
Disgusting.

892
00:32:18,260 --> 00:32:19,100
Terrible.

893
00:32:19,100 --> 00:32:21,420
And he got a bunch of money out of it, too.

894
00:32:21,420 --> 00:32:22,260
Diamonds.

895
00:32:22,260 --> 00:32:23,220
Yeah, so what happened with him?

896
00:32:23,220 --> 00:32:26,940
Did he like, how you can't spend that money?

897
00:32:26,940 --> 00:32:27,780
I know.

898
00:32:27,780 --> 00:32:28,620
Right?

899
00:32:28,620 --> 00:32:29,860
I just feel like at this time.

900
00:32:29,860 --> 00:32:30,700
You can't go selling diamonds,

901
00:32:30,700 --> 00:32:32,780
and be like, yeah, well, she left these to me.

902
00:32:32,780 --> 00:32:34,900
Yeah, or probably took them to a pawn shop.

903
00:32:34,900 --> 00:32:36,100
They don't track that kind of stuff.

904
00:32:36,100 --> 00:32:37,060
But that's what I'm saying.

905
00:32:37,060 --> 00:32:39,540
If he's a lighthouse keeper for another,

906
00:32:39,540 --> 00:32:40,700
he kept being a lighthouse keeper?

907
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:42,100
Yeah, for two years here,

908
00:32:42,100 --> 00:32:43,740
and then got moved to another lighthouse.

909
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:45,940
So it's not even like he disappeared.

910
00:32:45,940 --> 00:32:47,020
He didn't disappear,

911
00:32:47,020 --> 00:32:49,500
and then all of a sudden he's living on a yacht in Bahamas.

912
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:50,740
Yeah.

913
00:32:50,740 --> 00:32:53,540
Although $25,000 today is not that crazy.

914
00:32:53,540 --> 00:32:55,620
I guess it's not that crazy.

915
00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:58,420
And it wouldn't be motive to kill somebody, either.

916
00:32:58,420 --> 00:32:59,700
If they're your loved one.

917
00:32:59,700 --> 00:33:00,540
Emotional.

918
00:33:01,380 --> 00:33:02,340
Yeah, I don't know.

919
00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:05,180
So there's my short episode of Vince speculating.

920
00:33:05,180 --> 00:33:06,980
Thank you for the knowledge.

921
00:33:07,820 --> 00:33:08,980
What, what did you call it?

922
00:33:08,980 --> 00:33:10,260
Vince speculating.

923
00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:13,380
This is all speculation.

924
00:33:13,380 --> 00:33:16,500
What I wanna know is like more details about,

925
00:33:16,500 --> 00:33:18,140
they obviously do an autopsy.

926
00:33:19,340 --> 00:33:21,460
Is she, to say there's defensive wounds?

927
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:23,420
Like did it look like she was fighting somebody?

928
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:25,380
They obviously ruled it a suicide.

929
00:33:25,380 --> 00:33:28,220
Was that because her husband said it was,

930
00:33:28,220 --> 00:33:31,220
or like at this time, it really,

931
00:33:31,220 --> 00:33:34,100
it was easy to skew investigations.

932
00:33:34,100 --> 00:33:34,940
Very easy.

933
00:33:34,940 --> 00:33:36,300
It looks like someone held her down

934
00:33:36,300 --> 00:33:37,380
while she killed herself.

935
00:33:37,380 --> 00:33:38,420
Like that can't be right.

936
00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:39,260
Crazy how that happens.

937
00:33:39,260 --> 00:33:41,820
She was alone, so it's like, oh, okay.

938
00:33:41,820 --> 00:33:42,660
So anyway.

939
00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:43,660
Awful.

940
00:33:43,660 --> 00:33:46,460
I feel bad, because all, I mean.

941
00:33:46,460 --> 00:33:47,500
Well, these are people, you know.

942
00:33:47,500 --> 00:33:49,140
Yeah, and there's a possibility

943
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:50,900
that Andrew Johnson did nothing wrong,

944
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,700
walked in, and his wife has just commit suicide.

945
00:33:53,700 --> 00:33:56,420
But he talked some crap about her afterwards, so.

946
00:33:56,420 --> 00:33:57,540
Maybe she did it on purpose.

947
00:33:57,540 --> 00:33:58,940
Maybe she tried to make it look like a murder.

948
00:33:58,940 --> 00:33:59,820
Yeah.

949
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:00,660
All right, moving on.

950
00:34:00,660 --> 00:34:02,940
We're going to our next notable keeper.

951
00:34:03,820 --> 00:34:08,820
John Robertson was head keeper from 1880 to 1906.

952
00:34:08,860 --> 00:34:11,540
26 years at this lighthouse.

953
00:34:11,540 --> 00:34:12,900
Really long time.

954
00:34:12,900 --> 00:34:16,780
He contracted malaria, and which by the way,

955
00:34:16,780 --> 00:34:20,740
this sent me on a huge, what's it called?

956
00:34:20,740 --> 00:34:21,700
Rabbit hole.

957
00:34:21,700 --> 00:34:22,540
Yeah.

958
00:34:22,540 --> 00:34:23,360
A rabbit hole.

959
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,200
A tangent.

960
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,040
That's what I was thinking of.

961
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,300
Thank you for all.

962
00:34:26,300 --> 00:34:27,140
Synonym.

963
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:29,500
I know words I was thinking of, but couldn't figure out.

964
00:34:29,500 --> 00:34:33,420
This sent me on a huge tangent into looking at malaria.

965
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,460
And because it sounded like, you know,

966
00:34:36,460 --> 00:34:38,260
the other assistant keepers and their families

967
00:34:38,260 --> 00:34:40,880
were hesitant to be near him.

968
00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,700
So I was like, do they think that malaria

969
00:34:42,700 --> 00:34:44,480
was contagious at that time?

970
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:46,460
But I couldn't find out the details.

971
00:34:46,460 --> 00:34:47,300
It was.

972
00:34:47,300 --> 00:34:48,140
And it's not, right?

973
00:34:48,140 --> 00:34:48,980
No.

974
00:34:48,980 --> 00:34:49,800
Unless you share blood somehow.

975
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:50,820
Yeah, which is why.

976
00:34:50,820 --> 00:34:51,660
It's like mosquitoes.

977
00:34:51,660 --> 00:34:53,220
What did they know in the 1800s?

978
00:34:53,220 --> 00:34:55,260
Weren't people like bleeding themselves

979
00:34:55,260 --> 00:34:57,100
to get out of having a cold?

980
00:34:57,100 --> 00:35:00,660
They started, look, they had microscopes and stuff.

981
00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,420
Well, I mean, someone did, but what did the public know?

982
00:35:03,420 --> 00:35:04,940
Oh, probably nothing.

983
00:35:04,940 --> 00:35:07,380
What do scientists know now versus the average general?

984
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:10,620
They thought that you got malaria from swamp air

985
00:35:10,620 --> 00:35:12,300
when we're in a swampy area.

986
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:13,120
So.

987
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:13,960
Mosquitoes, right?

988
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:14,800
Yeah.

989
00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,940
So yeah, they thought it was like,

990
00:35:16,940 --> 00:35:20,140
smelling the stagnant air could make you sick.

991
00:35:20,140 --> 00:35:23,100
I mean, that's a fair line to draw in their world.

992
00:35:23,100 --> 00:35:26,420
Malaria actually means bad air or something

993
00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:28,380
in, I don't know.

994
00:35:28,380 --> 00:35:29,200
I didn't take any notes.

995
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,720
I was just reading on my own time.

996
00:35:31,720 --> 00:35:33,340
Anyway, he was in bed with fever

997
00:35:33,340 --> 00:35:34,620
when the strongest earthquake

998
00:35:34,620 --> 00:35:37,100
to ever hit South Carolina happened.

999
00:35:37,100 --> 00:35:39,700
And it was a 7.3 in 1886.

1000
00:35:39,700 --> 00:35:43,140
It's never been an earthquake like it after that.

1001
00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:46,860
And I think the epicenter was on Charleston.

1002
00:35:46,860 --> 00:35:49,380
And this is like 30 miles from Charleston or something.

1003
00:35:49,380 --> 00:35:53,300
So, but the lighthouse and houses did not sustain

1004
00:35:53,300 --> 00:35:56,940
any damage besides like cracked plaster.

1005
00:35:56,940 --> 00:35:59,740
But anything that was on shelves was absolutely destroyed.

1006
00:36:00,740 --> 00:36:02,060
The assistant keepers and their families

1007
00:36:02,060 --> 00:36:04,000
came to the keeper's house as his house

1008
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,300
was the least likely to get hit if the towers fell down.

1009
00:36:07,300 --> 00:36:09,980
Which is like a crazy thing that you have to think about

1010
00:36:09,980 --> 00:36:11,140
as a lighthouse keeper.

1011
00:36:12,820 --> 00:36:14,020
That'd be nuts.

1012
00:36:14,020 --> 00:36:15,260
It wouldn't make any sound.

1013
00:36:15,260 --> 00:36:16,100
Yeah.

1014
00:36:16,100 --> 00:36:17,980
You'd just be sitting at your kitchen table,

1015
00:36:17,980 --> 00:36:19,580
eating mac and cheese,

1016
00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:24,580
get crushed by a 12 foot tall lantern.

1017
00:36:24,580 --> 00:36:25,820
Crushed by a tower.

1018
00:36:25,820 --> 00:36:27,180
I wonder if that's ever happened.

1019
00:36:27,180 --> 00:36:28,460
Oh my gosh.

1020
00:36:28,460 --> 00:36:31,900
Cause all these keepers houses are close to the towers.

1021
00:36:31,900 --> 00:36:32,900
So they rushed to his house.

1022
00:36:32,900 --> 00:36:34,260
That's least likely to be crushed.

1023
00:36:34,260 --> 00:36:37,060
They hid into his house, which is when they were like,

1024
00:36:37,060 --> 00:36:38,780
it was obvious they didn't want to

1025
00:36:38,780 --> 00:36:40,180
because he was sick with the fever.

1026
00:36:40,180 --> 00:36:42,140
I was like, oh, sad.

1027
00:36:42,140 --> 00:36:44,620
Lighthouse board posted their account of the noise

1028
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:47,740
as quote sounding something like a battery of artillery

1029
00:36:47,740 --> 00:36:50,660
or a troop of cavalry crossing a long bridge.

1030
00:36:50,660 --> 00:36:52,620
I'm like very specific.

1031
00:36:52,620 --> 00:36:56,060
I don't know what an earthquake would sound like.

1032
00:36:56,060 --> 00:36:58,540
It's just, apparently it made a lot of sound

1033
00:36:58,540 --> 00:37:01,980
like long before the shock waves hit them.

1034
00:37:01,980 --> 00:37:04,060
So it's like, you could hear the earth moving.

1035
00:37:04,060 --> 00:37:04,900
And that's scary.

1036
00:37:04,900 --> 00:37:06,460
I know.

1037
00:37:06,460 --> 00:37:08,580
Can you imagine hearing that and not feeling anything?

1038
00:37:08,580 --> 00:37:11,220
It's like, what the heck is that?

1039
00:37:11,220 --> 00:37:13,100
Who's Bluetooth speakers on?

1040
00:37:13,100 --> 00:37:13,940
Oh my gosh.

1041
00:37:13,940 --> 00:37:14,760
Where are they watching?

1042
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:15,600
Bluetooth speakers.

1043
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:16,620
1886.

1044
00:37:16,620 --> 00:37:20,820
The tremors spooked the estimated 1000 cranes

1045
00:37:20,820 --> 00:37:22,780
that were nesting on Raccoon Key

1046
00:37:22,780 --> 00:37:24,540
who all took flight at the same time

1047
00:37:24,540 --> 00:37:26,220
and made a quote fearful noise.

1048
00:37:27,060 --> 00:37:27,900
I bet.

1049
00:37:27,900 --> 00:37:31,540
Can you imagine a thousand pairs of wings

1050
00:37:31,540 --> 00:37:32,780
flapping at the same time?

1051
00:37:32,780 --> 00:37:33,620
And these are cranes.

1052
00:37:33,620 --> 00:37:34,460
They're not small.

1053
00:37:34,460 --> 00:37:35,300
They're big animals.

1054
00:37:35,300 --> 00:37:36,940
Do they squawk as well?

1055
00:37:36,940 --> 00:37:38,380
I bet they were squawking.

1056
00:37:40,620 --> 00:37:41,820
Squawking.

1057
00:37:41,820 --> 00:37:42,840
They do make sounds.

1058
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:44,040
I don't know what they are though.

1059
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,020
I would assume it's kind of like that.

1060
00:37:46,020 --> 00:37:46,860
Wah.

1061
00:37:49,820 --> 00:37:52,300
God, I wish we had video for this podcast.

1062
00:37:53,900 --> 00:37:56,000
I made a bird motion.

1063
00:37:58,260 --> 00:38:00,020
So while the clockwork stopped

1064
00:38:00,020 --> 00:38:02,860
during both main shock waves that hit,

1065
00:38:02,860 --> 00:38:05,340
there was two main ones and the rest were like

1066
00:38:05,340 --> 00:38:08,160
a little less powerful, but not, yeah, but not,

1067
00:38:09,340 --> 00:38:10,780
not by any means comfortable.

1068
00:38:10,780 --> 00:38:11,980
Sure.

1069
00:38:11,980 --> 00:38:14,100
The clockwork stopped during both of them.

1070
00:38:14,100 --> 00:38:18,060
So it must be something about like the pendulum swinging

1071
00:38:18,060 --> 00:38:21,100
or something, but it just stopped the rotating

1072
00:38:21,100 --> 00:38:23,300
of the lens, which is very interesting.

1073
00:38:23,300 --> 00:38:26,160
The keepers kept the lights on during the entire disaster.

1074
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,780
So we can commend them for that.

1075
00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:28,620
It's pretty cool.

1076
00:38:28,620 --> 00:38:30,220
Powering through.

1077
00:38:30,220 --> 00:38:34,460
Next we have, it just spelled August,

1078
00:38:34,460 --> 00:38:36,740
but I know that a lot of people used to be called like

1079
00:38:36,740 --> 00:38:40,980
Augusta and, but it just looks like August.

1080
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:42,640
August is a name as well.

1081
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:46,180
August F. Wickman known for being commended

1082
00:38:46,180 --> 00:38:48,820
five times over his service publicly

1083
00:38:48,820 --> 00:38:50,940
for helping mariners at Cape Romaine.

1084
00:38:50,940 --> 00:38:55,740
So he's a real lighthouse keeper, life saving man.

1085
00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:58,260
Wickman, was his title or was this last name?

1086
00:38:58,260 --> 00:38:59,100
Last name.

1087
00:39:01,100 --> 00:39:02,380
Meant to be.

1088
00:39:02,380 --> 00:39:04,420
If that's how it's pronounced, I'm doing my best,

1089
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:08,540
but it's W-I-C-H-M-A-N-N.

1090
00:39:08,540 --> 00:39:09,380
Sounds right.

1091
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:14,380
1916, the Schooner barge Northwest wrecked near the Cape.

1092
00:39:14,900 --> 00:39:17,060
Five men washed ashore on wreckage.

1093
00:39:17,060 --> 00:39:19,700
The keeper spent 14 hours in a rowboat

1094
00:39:19,700 --> 00:39:22,180
because his motorboat was broken

1095
00:39:22,180 --> 00:39:25,020
and swam through the night to save them.

1096
00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:30,020
14 hours of like serious manual labor saving these men

1097
00:39:30,700 --> 00:39:32,020
just because they were there.

1098
00:39:32,020 --> 00:39:33,200
That's sad.

1099
00:39:33,200 --> 00:39:34,040
I mean, that's awesome.

1100
00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:34,880
Yeah.

1101
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:35,700
Yeah, sad too.

1102
00:39:35,700 --> 00:39:38,540
And one of the guys was the captain of this barge

1103
00:39:38,540 --> 00:39:42,500
and he exchanged Christmas cards with the keeper

1104
00:39:42,500 --> 00:39:43,780
for many years after that.

1105
00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:44,600
Cool.

1106
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:45,860
Can you imagine somebody saving your life?

1107
00:39:45,860 --> 00:39:47,300
You'd be, I'd be like, how do I?

1108
00:39:47,300 --> 00:39:48,620
Send him a Christmas card, yeah.

1109
00:39:48,620 --> 00:39:49,460
Yeah.

1110
00:39:49,460 --> 00:39:50,500
Starbucks gift card.

1111
00:39:50,500 --> 00:39:54,140
At the bare minimum, I would be exchanging Christmas cards.

1112
00:39:54,140 --> 00:39:56,220
But can you imagine how indebted you'd feel?

1113
00:39:56,220 --> 00:39:57,500
How would you make it?

1114
00:39:57,500 --> 00:39:58,580
You can't.

1115
00:39:58,580 --> 00:39:59,420
Like how would you?

1116
00:39:59,420 --> 00:40:00,260
You can't.

1117
00:40:00,260 --> 00:40:03,460
So anyway, he also got the efficiency star

1118
00:40:03,460 --> 00:40:04,860
one time at Cape Romaine

1119
00:40:04,860 --> 00:40:08,540
as being the best well-kept station.

1120
00:40:08,540 --> 00:40:09,580
Ooh, very nice.

1121
00:40:09,580 --> 00:40:12,220
So we can commend Wickman.

1122
00:40:12,220 --> 00:40:14,820
He also had a couple stories about his children

1123
00:40:14,820 --> 00:40:17,660
or he had three wives.

1124
00:40:17,660 --> 00:40:19,780
First one died in childbirth.

1125
00:40:19,780 --> 00:40:20,700
I'm going by memory here.

1126
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:24,400
Second one he was married to for over 20 years.

1127
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,160
She died from a heart attack.

1128
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:30,900
Third one was 40 years his junior, 40 years his junior.

1129
00:40:30,900 --> 00:40:33,380
Well, he wasn't gonna have another one die on him.

1130
00:40:33,380 --> 00:40:34,380
But she did.

1131
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:36,500
Oh no, I should have said that.

1132
00:40:36,500 --> 00:40:37,980
Should not have said that.

1133
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:39,620
Should not have said that.

1134
00:40:40,820 --> 00:40:42,020
Harry Potter reference.

1135
00:40:43,420 --> 00:40:45,940
She gave birth inside the lighthouse.

1136
00:40:45,940 --> 00:40:46,820
Very exciting.

1137
00:40:46,820 --> 00:40:48,540
He went fishing while it happened.

1138
00:40:48,540 --> 00:40:52,540
So he came back with like a 25 pound fish

1139
00:40:52,540 --> 00:40:53,780
and was like, look what I caught.

1140
00:40:53,780 --> 00:40:54,620
And she was dead.

1141
00:40:54,620 --> 00:40:56,980
And the nurse was like, look what I caught

1142
00:40:56,980 --> 00:40:58,620
and held up their son.

1143
00:40:58,620 --> 00:41:00,540
Oh, that's much lighthearted.

1144
00:41:00,540 --> 00:41:01,380
I know.

1145
00:41:01,380 --> 00:41:03,620
So he, their son was four.

1146
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:04,460
I read this all today.

1147
00:41:04,460 --> 00:41:07,300
That's the only reason I can remember these numbers.

1148
00:41:07,300 --> 00:41:10,500
Their son was four when they were done at this lighthouse.

1149
00:41:10,500 --> 00:41:12,540
And then three years later, she commits suicide.

1150
00:41:12,540 --> 00:41:13,420
Damn.

1151
00:41:13,420 --> 00:41:16,740
So there's something evil going on here.

1152
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:18,220
Whether it be men.

1153
00:41:19,900 --> 00:41:21,180
Immediately.

1154
00:41:21,180 --> 00:41:22,020
What could it be?

1155
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:22,840
Men.

1156
00:41:25,180 --> 00:41:26,020
What else is there?

1157
00:41:26,020 --> 00:41:26,840
I'm just getting.

1158
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,340
Was it the patriarchy do you think?

1159
00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:29,300
It's probably the patriarchy.

1160
00:41:29,300 --> 00:41:31,780
You know, it beat down all the will of women,

1161
00:41:31,780 --> 00:41:33,340
you know, in the past.

1162
00:41:33,340 --> 00:41:34,180
Suffrage.

1163
00:41:35,380 --> 00:41:36,220
Which is a good thing.

1164
00:41:36,220 --> 00:41:37,180
That sounds awful.

1165
00:41:37,180 --> 00:41:38,560
Friends reference.

1166
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:39,400
Moving on.

1167
00:41:40,420 --> 00:41:42,420
Those were our notable keepers,

1168
00:41:42,420 --> 00:41:44,020
which I feel like is something I want to do

1169
00:41:44,020 --> 00:41:46,300
on other episodes that I should really be giving

1170
00:41:46,300 --> 00:41:47,860
more attention to the keepers.

1171
00:41:47,860 --> 00:41:51,020
It's the heart of the lighthouse.

1172
00:41:51,020 --> 00:41:53,540
For a little bit, I would say like the number of keepers

1173
00:41:53,540 --> 00:41:55,780
and like, I think I just stopped doing that.

1174
00:41:55,780 --> 00:41:58,860
But lighthouse friends, shout out the website.

1175
00:41:58,860 --> 00:42:01,620
They usually list all the keepers and their dates.

1176
00:42:01,620 --> 00:42:02,460
That's really nice.

1177
00:42:02,460 --> 00:42:03,300
I'm gonna put that at the end,

1178
00:42:03,300 --> 00:42:05,020
which is really helpful when I'm trying to figure out

1179
00:42:05,020 --> 00:42:08,100
like who was keeper when something happened.

1180
00:42:08,100 --> 00:42:10,420
The old tower has lost its lantern room,

1181
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:12,100
not sure when it was removed.

1182
00:42:12,100 --> 00:42:17,100
I'm thinking I saw a picture of it without the lantern room

1183
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:19,820
and the photo is from 1913.

1184
00:42:19,820 --> 00:42:21,980
I'm telling you, all these lantern rooms,

1185
00:42:21,980 --> 00:42:25,480
there's gotta be a whole black market of lighthouse stuff.

1186
00:42:25,480 --> 00:42:26,620
I guarantee it.

1187
00:42:26,620 --> 00:42:27,780
I'm gonna be on there.

1188
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:30,660
Put me on the black market.

1189
00:42:30,660 --> 00:42:32,340
Can I get something for cheap?

1190
00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:33,180
No.

1191
00:42:33,180 --> 00:42:34,000
I want a Fresnel lens.

1192
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:35,620
I'm telling you, people have like,

1193
00:42:35,620 --> 00:42:38,420
there's a dude in California who has a Raptor,

1194
00:42:38,420 --> 00:42:42,780
that the dinosaur, he has a Raptor in his house.

1195
00:42:42,780 --> 00:42:45,420
He sold it with house, millions of dollars.

1196
00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:47,140
There's people out there like us

1197
00:42:47,140 --> 00:42:48,460
who are fascinated with lighthouses

1198
00:42:48,460 --> 00:42:52,780
that have Fresnel lenses, that have keepers log books

1199
00:42:52,780 --> 00:42:55,300
and they've got the cabinets with the keepers.

1200
00:42:55,300 --> 00:42:58,700
I'm sure all that stuff is highly collectible

1201
00:42:58,700 --> 00:42:59,580
and very expensive.

1202
00:42:59,580 --> 00:43:01,060
Yeah, true.

1203
00:43:01,060 --> 00:43:02,820
Okay, I don't wanna feed into that kind of business,

1204
00:43:02,820 --> 00:43:04,260
but I do want that stuff.

1205
00:43:04,260 --> 00:43:05,380
I don't think we should feed into it.

1206
00:43:05,380 --> 00:43:06,340
I do find it interesting.

1207
00:43:06,340 --> 00:43:07,180
Yeah.

1208
00:43:08,180 --> 00:43:09,220
Want stuff though.

1209
00:43:11,100 --> 00:43:13,980
All I want is like a prism.

1210
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,620
I want a Fresnel lens prism.

1211
00:43:16,620 --> 00:43:19,220
Put it in a little glass box,

1212
00:43:19,220 --> 00:43:20,900
curio cabinet or something.

1213
00:43:22,740 --> 00:43:23,700
Gosh.

1214
00:43:23,700 --> 00:43:25,580
I just pulled up a picture of what they look like today.

1215
00:43:25,580 --> 00:43:29,620
So we've got the lantern room less old tower.

1216
00:43:29,620 --> 00:43:30,920
There's some first perspective going on, right?

1217
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:31,760
Yeah, yeah.

1218
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:32,580
It's much smaller.

1219
00:43:32,580 --> 00:43:34,380
We're right up next to the old tower.

1220
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:37,020
It's like, why is it so fat?

1221
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:38,460
Why is it so big?

1222
00:43:38,460 --> 00:43:40,300
I'm just now seeing it how you're seeing it.

1223
00:43:40,300 --> 00:43:41,140
That's hilarious.

1224
00:43:41,140 --> 00:43:42,780
It's huge.

1225
00:43:42,780 --> 00:43:45,540
But isn't that a cool pattern on the new tower?

1226
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:46,820
It is, I like that pattern.

1227
00:43:46,820 --> 00:43:48,260
Very clean and pretty.

1228
00:43:48,260 --> 00:43:50,060
Yep, good lines.

1229
00:43:50,060 --> 00:43:52,620
The old tower's wooden staircase is nearly gone.

1230
00:43:52,620 --> 00:43:56,420
So it may be exposed to the elements right now or something.

1231
00:43:56,420 --> 00:43:57,240
And that's why.

1232
00:43:57,240 --> 00:43:59,500
Well, the top is probably not a solid platform.

1233
00:43:59,500 --> 00:44:04,060
I'm wondering because there was a floor of the lantern room.

1234
00:44:04,060 --> 00:44:04,900
She gone.

1235
00:44:04,900 --> 00:44:06,860
And there was a floor below the lantern room

1236
00:44:06,860 --> 00:44:07,700
in the watch room.

1237
00:44:07,700 --> 00:44:08,740
You deserve, yeah.

1238
00:44:08,740 --> 00:44:10,500
Sad, bricks look great though.

1239
00:44:10,500 --> 00:44:11,660
The bricks?

1240
00:44:11,660 --> 00:44:12,940
Yeah, the paint's really nice.

1241
00:44:12,940 --> 00:44:16,340
Do you think the paint is looking a little fresh?

1242
00:44:16,340 --> 00:44:18,340
I'm not, this is not a joke.

1243
00:44:18,340 --> 00:44:21,100
That was the one that was built by slave labor, right?

1244
00:44:21,100 --> 00:44:23,460
No, the first one, well, as far as I know,

1245
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:24,660
the first one was not.

1246
00:44:26,180 --> 00:44:28,380
It was the tall one, the new tower.

1247
00:44:28,380 --> 00:44:29,860
Well, then probably both of them.

1248
00:44:29,860 --> 00:44:30,700
Yeah, maybe.

1249
00:44:30,700 --> 00:44:31,520
Likely.

1250
00:44:32,540 --> 00:44:33,540
I guess, yeah, we don't know details.

1251
00:44:33,540 --> 00:44:34,900
I didn't have anything else to say about that.

1252
00:44:34,900 --> 00:44:35,740
I was just like, wow.

1253
00:44:35,740 --> 00:44:37,340
Okay, you were just interested.

1254
00:44:37,340 --> 00:44:42,180
Now the new tower is over three feet off plumb,

1255
00:44:42,180 --> 00:44:45,100
which is plumb is up and down.

1256
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:47,860
I wish I had a picture of how slanted,

1257
00:44:47,860 --> 00:44:51,180
but I can't tell if the photo itself is not up and down.

1258
00:44:51,180 --> 00:44:53,900
And that's why it looks like, so I didn't include it in our.

1259
00:44:53,900 --> 00:44:55,060
Leaning tower of Pisa.

1260
00:44:55,060 --> 00:44:58,100
You never really represent it well.

1261
00:44:58,100 --> 00:45:00,020
Yeah, got to see it in person.

1262
00:45:00,020 --> 00:45:00,980
Supposedly.

1263
00:45:00,980 --> 00:45:04,540
New doors were added to the lighthouses in 2010.

1264
00:45:04,540 --> 00:45:05,380
Nice.

1265
00:45:05,380 --> 00:45:07,260
And an emergency repair was made to the lantern room

1266
00:45:07,260 --> 00:45:09,380
on the new tower a year later.

1267
00:45:09,380 --> 00:45:12,420
So somebody just pitched in some guy.

1268
00:45:12,420 --> 00:45:13,260
Nice.

1269
00:45:13,260 --> 00:45:14,100
Some developer or something.

1270
00:45:14,100 --> 00:45:17,900
He, I think they discovered that it was unstable

1271
00:45:17,900 --> 00:45:20,380
while they were putting on the new doors or something.

1272
00:45:20,380 --> 00:45:23,300
And he fixed it up in 2011.

1273
00:45:23,300 --> 00:45:25,100
So six times a year,

1274
00:45:25,100 --> 00:45:28,140
the Cape Romaine National Wildlife Refuge

1275
00:45:28,140 --> 00:45:30,820
does boat tours to the island.

1276
00:45:30,820 --> 00:45:33,740
So if you're willing to trek through some swampy,

1277
00:45:33,740 --> 00:45:35,340
some swampy stuff,

1278
00:45:35,340 --> 00:45:37,100
you can go to the lighthouse to see them up close,

1279
00:45:37,100 --> 00:45:39,660
but the boat will also take you next to it.

1280
00:45:39,660 --> 00:45:42,420
And you don't have to like get off and go onto the island.

1281
00:45:42,420 --> 00:45:45,700
November 10th and December 8th are the next tours.

1282
00:45:45,700 --> 00:45:47,740
And that's like a few hours long.

1283
00:45:47,740 --> 00:45:51,220
Yeah, I was interested to see that December is on the list.

1284
00:45:51,220 --> 00:45:53,060
Like November, you can kind of swing it.

1285
00:45:53,060 --> 00:45:55,220
What is South Carolina?

1286
00:45:55,220 --> 00:45:56,060
True.

1287
00:45:56,060 --> 00:45:57,260
I don't know how cold it gets there.

1288
00:45:57,260 --> 00:45:59,940
Yeah, apparently it stays very windy on this island.

1289
00:45:59,940 --> 00:46:01,820
So it's like a toss up whether or not

1290
00:46:01,820 --> 00:46:03,220
you'll be able to get off.

1291
00:46:03,220 --> 00:46:04,060
Wow.

1292
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:04,900
Yeah.

1293
00:46:04,900 --> 00:46:06,100
So that's the only visitation.

1294
00:46:06,100 --> 00:46:06,940
There's no, can't climb.

1295
00:46:06,940 --> 00:46:08,260
There's nothing else.

1296
00:46:08,260 --> 00:46:09,580
Nobody's in charge of these.

1297
00:46:09,580 --> 00:46:12,020
They're just out there.

1298
00:46:12,020 --> 00:46:15,260
National, they're protected places and.

1299
00:46:15,260 --> 00:46:16,140
It's pretty crazy.

1300
00:46:16,140 --> 00:46:19,100
Think about like any structure that's like in town

1301
00:46:19,100 --> 00:46:21,140
that's not taken care of.

1302
00:46:21,140 --> 00:46:22,140
It deteriorates.

1303
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:24,500
20 years, 20 years would be great before.

1304
00:46:24,500 --> 00:46:27,380
And of course people smash windows and steal things.

1305
00:46:27,380 --> 00:46:28,220
Which doesn't help.

1306
00:46:28,220 --> 00:46:32,620
But lighthouses are built with architecture,

1307
00:46:32,620 --> 00:46:35,980
a lot of them that lasts even if they're not taken care of.

1308
00:46:35,980 --> 00:46:38,340
At least the brick, which is crazy.

1309
00:46:38,340 --> 00:46:39,660
Broke and steel.

1310
00:46:39,660 --> 00:46:42,140
And these survived a crazy earthquake

1311
00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:44,900
and had no like restoration on them.

1312
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:46,820
They're just still stable.

1313
00:46:46,820 --> 00:46:48,740
Well, and today we design things

1314
00:46:48,740 --> 00:46:51,140
to be rated for seismic activity.

1315
00:46:51,140 --> 00:46:55,220
So like the project I worked on near Charleston

1316
00:46:55,220 --> 00:46:58,420
is seismic restraints on all the duct work and stuff.

1317
00:46:58,420 --> 00:47:00,540
So equipment and things don't fail early

1318
00:47:00,540 --> 00:47:02,660
along with all the structural and everything else.

1319
00:47:02,660 --> 00:47:03,500
Right.

1320
00:47:04,420 --> 00:47:05,780
These weren't built.

1321
00:47:05,780 --> 00:47:06,620
No one knew that.

1322
00:47:06,620 --> 00:47:09,380
They were just like, oh, someday these might sway.

1323
00:47:09,380 --> 00:47:10,980
Firmly straight up and down.

1324
00:47:12,020 --> 00:47:14,300
How tall is that black and white, the new tower?

1325
00:47:14,300 --> 00:47:15,660
150, yeah.

1326
00:47:15,660 --> 00:47:18,020
And looks like relatively skinny.

1327
00:47:18,020 --> 00:47:20,180
Like it doesn't taper out really.

1328
00:47:20,180 --> 00:47:21,260
Yeah, pretty flat.

1329
00:47:21,260 --> 00:47:23,300
Those are Cape Romaine lighthouses.

1330
00:47:23,300 --> 00:47:24,140
Very cool.

1331
00:47:24,140 --> 00:47:25,860
One of them's just a stump.

1332
00:47:25,860 --> 00:47:30,540
But one of the oldest of its kind in the US still standing.

1333
00:47:30,540 --> 00:47:33,340
So it's pretty, we commend them for that.

1334
00:47:33,340 --> 00:47:36,380
It's interesting how the towers are still there

1335
00:47:36,380 --> 00:47:39,860
on a lot of these places, but the lantern room goes.

1336
00:47:39,860 --> 00:47:41,860
Yeah, it just corrodes, I guess.

1337
00:47:41,860 --> 00:47:43,860
I mean, the sea water and stuff.

1338
00:47:43,860 --> 00:47:45,100
Yeah.

1339
00:47:45,100 --> 00:47:47,340
You know, Three Sisters, they talked about those.

1340
00:47:47,340 --> 00:47:49,580
Triangle Island doesn't have its lantern room

1341
00:47:49,580 --> 00:47:50,860
for obvious reasons.

1342
00:47:50,860 --> 00:47:53,980
Well, I have several messages I've read lately,

1343
00:47:53,980 --> 00:47:57,140
like four or five people now on, well, more than that,

1344
00:47:57,140 --> 00:47:58,300
on comments on YouTube.

1345
00:47:58,300 --> 00:47:59,460
So thank you for all of those.

1346
00:47:59,460 --> 00:48:00,300
I really appreciate it.

1347
00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:01,500
We love comments.

1348
00:48:01,500 --> 00:48:05,180
But also people are saying that they've binge watched

1349
00:48:05,180 --> 00:48:07,900
all of our episodes, which is, what are we,

1350
00:48:07,900 --> 00:48:09,260
three years in?

1351
00:48:09,260 --> 00:48:10,100
Two?

1352
00:48:10,100 --> 00:48:10,940
Two and a half.

1353
00:48:10,940 --> 00:48:12,660
We're two and a half in, which is crazy.

1354
00:48:12,660 --> 00:48:13,980
And then-

1355
00:48:13,980 --> 00:48:15,500
This is episode 63.

1356
00:48:15,500 --> 00:48:18,260
I still, I'm so, I'm always busy,

1357
00:48:18,260 --> 00:48:22,020
but I haven't uploaded, if they're only watching on YouTube,

1358
00:48:22,020 --> 00:48:23,700
I haven't uploaded like our first-

1359
00:48:23,700 --> 00:48:25,180
10 or something, right?

1360
00:48:25,180 --> 00:48:26,300
I wanna say like 19.

1361
00:48:26,300 --> 00:48:27,220
Oh.

1362
00:48:27,220 --> 00:48:28,340
Yeah.

1363
00:48:28,340 --> 00:48:29,700
Because we just, we didn't,

1364
00:48:31,460 --> 00:48:34,100
we didn't prepare that way when we were early on, so.

1365
00:48:34,100 --> 00:48:36,060
Yeah, I didn't want it to be a YouTube thing.

1366
00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:38,180
But I think somebody I asked

1367
00:48:38,180 --> 00:48:40,420
which one was their favorite episode,

1368
00:48:40,420 --> 00:48:44,660
and they said one of the Upper Peninsula,

1369
00:48:44,660 --> 00:48:45,980
might've been Split Rock.

1370
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:46,820
Michigan?

1371
00:48:46,820 --> 00:48:47,660
Michigan?

1372
00:48:47,660 --> 00:48:49,620
Yeah, I can't remember now.

1373
00:48:49,620 --> 00:48:51,780
But they wanted us to cover some more in that area,

1374
00:48:51,780 --> 00:48:52,620
so we'll look at that.

1375
00:48:52,620 --> 00:48:54,700
Oh yeah, I saw that.

1376
00:48:54,700 --> 00:48:56,060
I think it was Upper Peninsula.

1377
00:48:56,060 --> 00:48:57,500
I actually picked out this lighthouse

1378
00:48:57,500 --> 00:49:00,700
because I was looking for areas we didn't have any.

1379
00:49:00,700 --> 00:49:02,380
I don't think we've covered a single lighthouse

1380
00:49:02,380 --> 00:49:03,700
in South Carolina.

1381
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:05,340
I've got a lot of ideas,

1382
00:49:05,340 --> 00:49:07,180
and a lot of them are not just lighthouses,

1383
00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:09,060
but broader topics.

1384
00:49:09,060 --> 00:49:10,820
And could be like specials, but.

1385
00:49:10,820 --> 00:49:11,660
Yeah.

1386
00:49:11,660 --> 00:49:12,860
Gotta do some research.

1387
00:49:12,860 --> 00:49:15,180
Sometimes we get into a habit of posting

1388
00:49:15,180 --> 00:49:17,500
a bunch of fun ones back to back,

1389
00:49:17,500 --> 00:49:19,940
and we don't do a lighthouse for four episodes.

1390
00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:21,100
I'm like, oh no.

1391
00:49:21,100 --> 00:49:22,940
Yeah, I've always been guilty of that.

1392
00:49:22,940 --> 00:49:23,780
I've always been like,

1393
00:49:23,780 --> 00:49:25,460
well what else is lighthouse adjacent?

1394
00:49:25,460 --> 00:49:27,060
We did a lot of that early on.

1395
00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:30,860
We did, I did prohibition with lighthouses and stuff.

1396
00:49:30,860 --> 00:49:34,900
That was a time span where we had a lot of episodes

1397
00:49:34,900 --> 00:49:36,580
that weren't about lighthouses.

1398
00:49:36,580 --> 00:49:37,660
I still think it's important.

1399
00:49:37,660 --> 00:49:39,940
If you want, I don't know,

1400
00:49:39,940 --> 00:49:41,380
I guess I know why some people would.

1401
00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:45,540
So if you want to get somebody excited about lighthouses,

1402
00:49:45,540 --> 00:49:48,420
yes, it's nice to go see one on a trip or something,

1403
00:49:48,420 --> 00:49:50,420
and talk about how many steps it has,

1404
00:49:50,420 --> 00:49:52,300
and the years.

1405
00:49:52,300 --> 00:49:55,260
That's important, and we cover it on all of our episodes.

1406
00:49:55,260 --> 00:49:58,380
But also, what happened here.

1407
00:49:58,380 --> 00:49:59,500
What's relevant.

1408
00:49:59,500 --> 00:50:01,140
It's historic, almost all of them

1409
00:50:01,140 --> 00:50:02,900
have historical significance.

1410
00:50:02,900 --> 00:50:04,460
Almost all of them, like I keep saying,

1411
00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:06,980
have local cultural significance.

1412
00:50:06,980 --> 00:50:09,940
And a lot of people care about one lighthouse.

1413
00:50:09,940 --> 00:50:12,340
They don't care about lighthouses,

1414
00:50:12,340 --> 00:50:13,900
and the culture, and the surrounding.

1415
00:50:13,900 --> 00:50:16,020
Because they relate in some way to it.

1416
00:50:16,020 --> 00:50:18,500
Yeah, this one, this story, or this town.

1417
00:50:18,500 --> 00:50:20,500
I grew up looking at this one, or I volunteer.

1418
00:50:20,500 --> 00:50:21,380
I think it's really neat.

1419
00:50:21,380 --> 00:50:23,220
It's kind of where our show comes in.

1420
00:50:23,220 --> 00:50:24,420
Yeah, heck yeah.

1421
00:50:24,420 --> 00:50:25,860
We don't have a particular one.

1422
00:50:25,860 --> 00:50:28,300
We're just, we're into all of them.

1423
00:50:28,300 --> 00:50:30,340
Yeah, I don't have a lot of favoritism.

1424
00:50:30,340 --> 00:50:32,460
I did, did I tell you?

1425
00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:34,820
I saw the one in Salina.

1426
00:50:34,820 --> 00:50:36,380
Wait, what? It's still there.

1427
00:50:36,380 --> 00:50:37,620
Salina, Kansas.

1428
00:50:37,620 --> 00:50:39,740
So there's one, I talked about it a long time ago.

1429
00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:40,580
Oh yeah.

1430
00:50:40,580 --> 00:50:42,580
It was at like an old putt-putt course,

1431
00:50:42,580 --> 00:50:45,420
and then it turned into a like motocross track,

1432
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:46,700
and now it's abandoned.

1433
00:50:47,580 --> 00:50:49,100
It's still there.

1434
00:50:49,100 --> 00:50:49,940
The lighthouse?

1435
00:50:49,940 --> 00:50:51,300
The lighthouse is still there.

1436
00:50:51,300 --> 00:50:53,100
And you saw it, and you didn't go investigate?

1437
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:54,980
Listen, I was gonna take a picture,

1438
00:50:54,980 --> 00:50:55,900
but I was on the interstate,

1439
00:50:55,900 --> 00:50:56,740
and that would have been unsafe.

1440
00:50:56,740 --> 00:50:57,860
Oh yeah, you're right.

1441
00:50:57,860 --> 00:50:58,700
We don't condone that.

1442
00:50:58,700 --> 00:51:01,540
I also did not get off the highway to investigate.

1443
00:51:01,540 --> 00:51:04,740
Maybe another time when I go out towards where I grew up.

1444
00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:06,820
It's not that far from us, so.

1445
00:51:06,820 --> 00:51:08,180
Thank you to our YouTube listeners.

1446
00:51:08,180 --> 00:51:10,460
Thank you to everybody on our website.

1447
00:51:12,300 --> 00:51:13,420
I don't wanna keep making promises,

1448
00:51:13,420 --> 00:51:15,540
but I think non-specifically,

1449
00:51:15,540 --> 00:51:17,660
there's a lot of exciting things coming.

1450
00:51:17,660 --> 00:51:19,580
Oh, I'm doing a spooky episode.

1451
00:51:19,580 --> 00:51:22,820
Speaking of happening right away.

1452
00:51:22,820 --> 00:51:25,500
Excuse me, wait until it's time.

1453
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,140
I'm doing a spooky episode.

1454
00:51:29,580 --> 00:51:31,260
On, what's the name?

1455
00:51:31,260 --> 00:51:34,740
Let's see.

1456
00:51:36,340 --> 00:51:38,140
October 28th.

1457
00:51:38,140 --> 00:51:38,980
No.

1458
00:51:40,980 --> 00:51:42,820
What good are you?

1459
00:51:42,820 --> 00:51:44,220
I hit the wrong one.

1460
00:51:44,220 --> 00:51:47,780
You're no longer in charge of sound effects.

1461
00:51:47,780 --> 00:51:48,780
Stray2Jail.

1462
00:51:48,780 --> 00:51:49,620
Stray2Jail.

1463
00:51:49,620 --> 00:51:51,180
But I'm gonna do a speak,

1464
00:51:51,180 --> 00:51:53,820
well, I'm gonna do a haunted lighthouse, okay?

1465
00:51:53,820 --> 00:51:54,660
Very good.

1466
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:55,620
So it'll be good.

1467
00:51:55,620 --> 00:51:58,940
Thank you for everybody who are listening,

1468
00:51:58,940 --> 00:52:01,060
even if you're like a first-time listener,

1469
00:52:01,060 --> 00:52:02,940
or you're a returning listener.

1470
00:52:02,940 --> 00:52:04,980
We appreciate all the views,

1471
00:52:04,980 --> 00:52:08,180
and get out there and love lighthouses.

1472
00:52:08,180 --> 00:52:09,700
Yeah, if you made it this far,

1473
00:52:09,700 --> 00:52:11,860
you're an MVP, most valuable person

1474
00:52:11,860 --> 00:52:12,780
listening to Lighthouse.

1475
00:52:12,780 --> 00:52:14,300
Welcome to Lighthouse podcast.

1476
00:52:15,660 --> 00:52:18,580
MVP, l-l-l-l-l.

1477
00:52:21,220 --> 00:52:24,540
So check out our Instagram at the Lighthouse Lowdown.

1478
00:52:24,540 --> 00:52:26,900
We've got YouTube, we've got places

1479
00:52:26,900 --> 00:52:28,500
you can listen to our podcast.

1480
00:52:28,500 --> 00:52:30,420
We've got a map on our website,

1481
00:52:30,420 --> 00:52:35,420
Lighthouselowdown.com.

1482
00:52:35,420 --> 00:52:38,540
And also gmail.com, which is our email,

1483
00:52:38,540 --> 00:52:40,900
in case you wanna email us any fun stories

1484
00:52:40,900 --> 00:52:41,940
you have about lighthouses,

1485
00:52:41,940 --> 00:52:43,020
or anything you want us to cover.

1486
00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:45,620
People have been leaving us lighthouses

1487
00:52:45,620 --> 00:52:47,220
they want us to cover, or certain areas

1488
00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:49,300
they want us to cover, and we are on it.

1489
00:52:49,300 --> 00:52:51,020
We just have a queue going,

1490
00:52:51,020 --> 00:52:55,500
so it might take us some time, but we are on it.

1491
00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:56,740
That's good.

1492
00:52:56,740 --> 00:52:57,580
Good problem to have.

1493
00:52:57,580 --> 00:52:58,980
Yeah, thank you all for listening,

1494
00:52:58,980 --> 00:53:03,980
and we'll catch you next time on the Lighthouse Lowdown.

1495
00:53:03,980 --> 00:53:32,980
Thanks for watching!