1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,800 Hi everyone, I'm Emily. 2 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:03,800 And I'm Vince. 3 00:00:03,800 --> 00:00:07,400 And this is the Lighthouse Lowdown. 4 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:16,560 Welcome to the Lighthouse Lowdown. 5 00:00:16,560 --> 00:00:17,560 Thank you. 6 00:00:17,560 --> 00:00:21,200 We're in a new place, a new space I should say once again. 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:24,760 Yeah, riprap version four or five. 8 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:29,160 This is going to be our permanent spot but we need to figure out some. 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:30,160 Wait for a while. 10 00:00:30,160 --> 00:00:31,160 Let's go. 11 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:32,160 Need to figure out some deets. 12 00:00:32,160 --> 00:00:33,160 Yep. 13 00:00:33,160 --> 00:00:35,720 But I'll jump right into it today. 14 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:37,640 I think it might be a little bit of a long one. 15 00:00:37,640 --> 00:00:38,640 Oh nice. 16 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:44,000 I'm going to start off by saying that Wednesday, this coming Wednesday the seventh is National 17 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:45,320 Lighthouse Day. 18 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:48,880 So if you live near a lighthouse, it's more than likely that they're going to have some 19 00:00:48,880 --> 00:00:54,360 kind of special event or you know, a party. 20 00:00:54,360 --> 00:00:56,360 In the United States, National Lighthouse Day? 21 00:00:56,360 --> 00:00:57,360 Very cool. 22 00:00:57,360 --> 00:01:00,800 Our international listeners will have to dance along. 23 00:01:00,800 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaking of dance, what's the news there? 24 00:01:02,440 --> 00:01:03,440 I don't know. 25 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:05,480 We probably talked about it last year. 26 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:13,000 But the USLHS is doing a dance competition where as long as you have like a lighthouse 27 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:20,200 or a lightship or something in the background, you do a dance to a specific song and submit 28 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:22,560 it and then winners get cash prizes. 29 00:01:22,560 --> 00:01:24,720 Oh, I'm definitely going to submit. 30 00:01:24,720 --> 00:01:29,960 Well, we are going to because the submission deadline is I think August 25th and we're 31 00:01:29,960 --> 00:01:33,000 going to be near lighthouses by August 21st. 32 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:34,000 Heck yeah, Cape Cod. 33 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:39,520 So it'll be a very fast edit, very fast filming and everything else. 34 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:40,520 We'll do a little short episode. 35 00:01:40,520 --> 00:01:42,440 But I would like to participate. 36 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:46,980 And instead the submission can be as short or as long as you want it to be. 37 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:50,120 So like 15 hours of us dancing. 38 00:01:50,120 --> 00:01:53,920 Maybe not on loop like that. 39 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,400 No, not on loop continuously. 40 00:01:55,400 --> 00:02:00,920 Oh, well, you'd be kind of tired from all the travel cocktails help for questions about 41 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:01,920 it. 42 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:04,440 You can directly email Jeremy at USLHS dot org. 43 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:06,760 All right, do it very good. 44 00:02:06,760 --> 00:02:08,720 Now on to our history of buoy. 45 00:02:08,720 --> 00:02:10,600 I'm going to talk about lighthouse coatings. 46 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:13,080 I think coat, coat, coat. 47 00:02:13,080 --> 00:02:19,280 Yeah, like a jacket, like a jacket, a lighthouse jacket. 48 00:02:19,280 --> 00:02:23,800 So obviously the coating depends on the material of the lighthouse and its location. 49 00:02:23,800 --> 00:02:26,920 And what works for one lighthouse isn't going to work for all lighthouses. 50 00:02:26,920 --> 00:02:30,680 And there's a couple of lighthouses we've covered that have special coatings. 51 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,760 Like Ochre Coke, like Ochre Coke, that big stubby little reminder. 52 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:44,320 We talked about that in our Outer Banks episode and it had a coating made of lime, salt, rice, 53 00:02:44,320 --> 00:02:50,880 whiting and clear glue, which was mixed with boiling water before being put onto the lighthouse. 54 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:52,360 Did you say rice? 55 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:54,680 Yes, ground rice. 56 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:55,960 Awesome. 57 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:56,960 Did not see that coming. 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:57,960 I know. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,680 It was just the strangest concoction. 60 00:03:00,680 --> 00:03:04,960 So we don't have a lot of like that today, but that was what they used to protect Ochre 61 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:08,880 Coke, a very high humidity environment onto a brick lighthouse. 62 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:15,240 So honestly, it was permeable and need some help, which that even didn't protect the lighthouse. 63 00:03:15,240 --> 00:03:18,400 Like the brick is needs some help these days. 64 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,840 So yeah, but it's been a while, a long time. 65 00:03:20,840 --> 00:03:25,920 Yeah, Masonry often had a sacrificial layer of stucco, is it? 66 00:03:25,920 --> 00:03:30,720 Stucco or lime mortar wash that would erode over time instead of the stone. 67 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,400 Yeah, that is kind of what I'm thinking. 68 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:38,680 Ochre Coke might have been like too, is just that it was sealed and kind of took the beating 69 00:03:38,680 --> 00:03:39,840 instead of the lighthouse. 70 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:43,440 And then they because they reapplied it like every year, maybe like twice a year or something. 71 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:44,440 Yeah, I didn't know that. 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:48,480 Yeah, it was like one of the keepers jobs was reapplying that. 73 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:54,760 It was I wonder if it's added up over time, you know, to because its shape is kind of 74 00:03:54,760 --> 00:03:56,120 rounded almost. 75 00:03:56,120 --> 00:03:57,120 Yeah. 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,120 Yeah. 77 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:04,240 I mean, not even but all like I remember touching it and looking up as some photos I took from 78 00:04:04,240 --> 00:04:08,240 the very base of it, just kind of looking up as close as you can to it right by the 79 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:09,240 door. 80 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:10,240 Yeah. 81 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:11,920 And I was like, how is that applied? 82 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:13,680 It looks like it was applied by hand. 83 00:04:13,680 --> 00:04:15,520 Well, guess what it was. 84 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,040 And I kind of feel stupid. 85 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:18,040 Of course it was. 86 00:04:18,040 --> 00:04:21,040 What are they going to put that thing in a spray booth? 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:22,040 Roll it in. 88 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:23,800 We actually talk about that today, too. 89 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:24,800 No way. 90 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:26,800 No, I'm actually surprised. 91 00:04:26,800 --> 00:04:28,880 Well, actually, talk a little. 92 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,720 I'm not quite done with my history, but we'll talk a couple talk about a couple of these 93 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:34,240 points today. 94 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:38,560 So obviously, since Ochre Coke, things have evolved a lot and lighthouses need protection 95 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:43,500 now more than ever because they're in serious danger of like falling apart unless there's 96 00:04:43,500 --> 00:04:45,160 somebody taking care of them. 97 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:51,320 So it's better to have a strong protective coating than to constantly having to do maintenance, 98 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:53,280 which has to be done anyway. 99 00:04:53,280 --> 00:04:54,280 That makes sense. 100 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:55,880 They got enough work to do out there. 101 00:04:55,880 --> 00:04:56,880 Yeah. 102 00:04:56,880 --> 00:05:07,360 So commonly these days we see acrylic polyurethane on metal, stone, and brick lighthouses plus 103 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,500 all of like bolts and railings and things. 104 00:05:10,500 --> 00:05:13,720 And this substance often resembles a cross between plastic and rubber. 105 00:05:13,720 --> 00:05:16,560 So it's flexible, but also really strong. 106 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:21,000 Trinity House, which is a UK maritime charity, we've talked about it a lot. 107 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,440 It oversees the lighthouses. 108 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:28,200 Did an FAQ on the subject and they said they have two systems depending on the lighthouse 109 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,320 material and location. 110 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:36,840 So aside from the polyurethane mentioned, they also use mono-lastex smooth on render, 111 00:05:36,840 --> 00:05:39,960 which render is just a mixture of sand and cement. 112 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:46,720 This mono-lastex smooth is a water-based waterproof substance that also resists mold fungus and 113 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:48,720 also has really good vapor permeability. 114 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:52,240 So it's great on like brick, but also on concrete. 115 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:54,100 And it also comes in a lot of colors. 116 00:05:54,100 --> 00:05:56,920 So it's like a coating, but also a paint. 117 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:57,920 That's really interesting. 118 00:05:57,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Yeah. 119 00:05:58,920 --> 00:06:01,520 So you mentioned, don't let me take you too far off track. 120 00:06:01,520 --> 00:06:02,520 Oh no. 121 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:06,560 Render being a mix of cement and sand. 122 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:08,760 So I'm going to oversimplify it. 123 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:14,080 But I think, I mean, there's different classifications of sand and aggregate and whatnot. 124 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:22,860 But, so cement is the slurry and concrete is a mixture of cement and aggregate. 125 00:06:22,860 --> 00:06:26,200 So if you were to take cement and sand and mix it together, you'd have concrete more 126 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:27,640 or less. 127 00:06:27,640 --> 00:06:33,840 The reason I bring that up is I saw a video, it's like two or three minutes recently, of 128 00:06:33,840 --> 00:06:34,840 a woman, another podcast. 129 00:06:34,840 --> 00:06:36,960 I can't tell you which one, because I don't remember. 130 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:41,240 She was talking about how we're running out of sand, like as a natural resource. 131 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:46,400 Apparently there's only so much sand that's perfect for construction. 132 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,560 Like there's certain sand grades you need for making glass, certain sand grades you 133 00:06:50,560 --> 00:06:53,520 need for making concrete. 134 00:06:53,520 --> 00:06:59,320 The cost of like refining sand makes it not worth it if you can't just go get it from 135 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:03,800 somewhere and then transporting it's super expensive too, because it's heavy. 136 00:07:03,800 --> 00:07:09,720 So anyways, apparently they like the Burj Dubai, that really tall building. 137 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:13,080 Apparently they imported sand, even though it's in the desert, because the desert sand 138 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:14,440 is not fit to make concrete. 139 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:16,440 I never thought about that. 140 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:18,240 So all sand is not created equal. 141 00:07:18,240 --> 00:07:26,040 I wonder what my coffee brain said was, I wonder if render is another like English, 142 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,320 British English word for concrete or if they're very different. 143 00:07:29,320 --> 00:07:30,320 I'm not sure. 144 00:07:30,320 --> 00:07:31,320 They're different. 145 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,320 I just looked it up. 146 00:07:32,320 --> 00:07:35,240 It's actually mostly a protective coating. 147 00:07:35,240 --> 00:07:41,760 So that monolastic, I'm away from here so I can't record it. 148 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:46,240 Monolastic smooth goes on top of render and render is a protective coating usually used 149 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:51,480 on masonry, but it's a mixture of sand, water, cement and lime. 150 00:07:51,480 --> 00:07:55,680 Has a fire rating and waterproof qualities and also holds aesthetic appeal. 151 00:07:55,680 --> 00:07:59,720 Well, render me educated. 152 00:07:59,720 --> 00:08:00,720 Good one. 153 00:08:00,720 --> 00:08:04,920 Right, and then Trinity House also said for offshore lighthouses that take more of a beating, 154 00:08:04,920 --> 00:08:08,480 they use a liquid plastics product, but they don't specify what that is. 155 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:09,480 Like an epoxy, I bet. 156 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:10,480 Yeah, probably. 157 00:08:10,480 --> 00:08:11,480 Nasty stuff. 158 00:08:11,480 --> 00:08:13,160 Been a lot more tough. 159 00:08:13,160 --> 00:08:16,080 For paint that needs to remain really bright, this is fun. 160 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:22,160 Teneimic is a brand that's been used for several lighthouses that have red roofs, such as St. 161 00:08:22,160 --> 00:08:24,880 Augustine and South Pier Lighthouse. 162 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:30,600 It has a high solids, fluoropolymer, think Teflon. 163 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:31,600 That's exciting. 164 00:08:31,600 --> 00:08:34,600 No, I am excited. 165 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,120 Teneimic is an awesome brand. 166 00:08:37,120 --> 00:08:40,600 So they worked with me at my first job and then now my current job. 167 00:08:40,600 --> 00:08:46,020 And they make paints, not all of their paints, but some of their paints are actually insulating. 168 00:08:46,020 --> 00:08:51,360 So you can coat a pipe with paint and it insulates it. 169 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:54,960 It's not as good as fiberglass insulation. 170 00:08:54,960 --> 00:09:00,720 And some of their paints are really super strong, which makes sense for outdoor use 171 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:04,840 so that you can put steel pipe outdoor and just not worry about it anymore. 172 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:06,520 Not worry about it corroding is what I mean. 173 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Very cool. 174 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:08,520 Sorry to interrupt. 175 00:09:08,520 --> 00:09:09,520 Very cool. 176 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,520 But you get what I'm talking about. 177 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:13,720 And I actually have a koozie in our kitchen from Teneimic. 178 00:09:13,720 --> 00:09:14,720 No way. 179 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,720 And it's like a paint can design. 180 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:18,280 What a weird small world. 181 00:09:18,280 --> 00:09:25,360 That little text on the back says something like, you know, contains like delicious drink 182 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,360 or something silly like that. 183 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:28,360 That's funny. 184 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:32,800 Yeah, you nodded with Teneimic and I was like, don't nod as if you know what I'm talking 185 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:33,800 about. 186 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:34,800 The people can't see you nod. 187 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:36,440 I do know what you're talking about. 188 00:09:36,440 --> 00:09:37,440 That's awesome. 189 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:43,240 But anyway, this layer goes after the polyurethane layer, which has high color and gloss retention 190 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:45,640 even when exposed to high UV for years. 191 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:50,880 So like a lot of lighthouses we see the red turns into a very light pink over like not 192 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:51,880 that much time. 193 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:56,440 So this kind of battles that where you keep that bright day mark. 194 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,480 That's so important without having to reapply all the time. 195 00:10:00,480 --> 00:10:01,480 That's awesome. 196 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,560 Which is something we'll see with the lighthouse today as well. 197 00:10:03,560 --> 00:10:09,720 We're going to be talking about white shoal lighthouse, which we mentioned in episode 198 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:16,080 43 with Mackinac. 199 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:17,080 Mackinac. 200 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,840 I looked off like Mackinac. 201 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,840 Mackinac. 202 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:22,960 Memories of Mackinac. 203 00:10:22,960 --> 00:10:23,960 Mackinac Point. 204 00:10:23,960 --> 00:10:24,960 Mackinac. 205 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,840 That's right by the long bridge that's north. 206 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:30,840 The Mackinac Bridge. 207 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:34,120 Great Lake Superior and. 208 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:36,160 Old Mackinac Point Lighthouse. 209 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:37,480 I'm sorry. 210 00:10:37,480 --> 00:10:40,560 I knew that there were several words and I was like, if I try, then I won't cover it. 211 00:10:40,560 --> 00:10:41,560 I got to look it up. 212 00:10:41,560 --> 00:10:48,160 But anyway, that was episode 43 and this one is 20 miles west of the Mackinac Bridge. 213 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:49,160 Cool. 214 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:50,160 Out in the open. 215 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,640 So we're heading back up to the Straits of Mackinac. 216 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:58,040 This straight connected Lake Huron and Lake Michigan connects and had fairly high traffic, 217 00:10:58,040 --> 00:11:01,920 especially towards like the late 1800s. 218 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,600 It also had a lot of shoals, which is just areas of shallow water. 219 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:06,600 OK. 220 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,160 So they each needed to be marked now that more people were starting to come to the street. 221 00:11:10,160 --> 00:11:15,320 So the most shallow Simmons Reef was only three feet deep and Congress approved sixty 222 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:19,240 thousand dollars for a lighthouse to be built there in 1889. 223 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,840 But a survey of the area showed that they couldn't build a lighthouse there for less 224 00:11:22,840 --> 00:11:24,780 than one hundred and fifty thousand dollars. 225 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:28,760 At that time, that was like that amount today is five million dollars. 226 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:34,120 Can you imagine looking at that and being like, oh, it's probably about five million. 227 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:38,880 It's like the the memes, the guy from Pond Stars. 228 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:40,200 Best I can do is five million. 229 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:41,200 What? 230 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:42,200 I don't know that. 231 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,760 It's just like it's a have you heard of Pond Stars like the TV show? 232 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:46,760 What? 233 00:11:46,760 --> 00:11:47,760 Yes. 234 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:48,760 I think you're saying Pond Stars. 235 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:49,760 No, that would be more. 236 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:50,760 That makes sense. 237 00:11:50,760 --> 00:11:58,040 But there's just this image that goes around when they're like negotiating, like anyone 238 00:11:58,040 --> 00:11:59,640 selling their car on Facebook or whatever. 239 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:05,280 And it shows the bald guy like slap the counter and it's best I can do is and then he says 240 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:06,280 the price number. 241 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:07,280 Yeah. 242 00:12:07,280 --> 00:12:10,800 So that doesn't translate very well, but maybe I'll insert it here. 243 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:13,600 People that do know it would probably get a kick out. 244 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:14,600 There's going to be a couple out there. 245 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:15,600 Yeah, just a couple. 246 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:16,600 You're welcome. 247 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:21,400 The Lighthouse Board requested the other ninety thousand dollars, but they also asked that 248 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:25,680 the original sixty thousand be used for light ships that would mark each of the most the 249 00:12:25,680 --> 00:12:28,000 three most shallow areas. 250 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:29,000 Light ships. 251 00:12:29,000 --> 00:12:30,000 Yes. 252 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,840 Stationary light ships get towed out there and left. 253 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:34,840 Cool. 254 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:35,840 Yeah. 255 00:12:35,840 --> 00:12:39,080 So Simmons Reef, Grays Reef and White Shoals were the ones that they were looking at. 256 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,620 And Congress approved this in eighteen ninety one. 257 00:12:41,620 --> 00:12:47,000 So at that point, three one hundred foot wooden light ships with fog signals and steam propulsion, 258 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:51,520 which is important because these were the first US light vessels to have self propelling 259 00:12:51,520 --> 00:12:52,520 engines. 260 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,400 But they still had to be towed out there. 261 00:12:54,400 --> 00:13:00,200 So maybe it was just like, I don't know if they're self propelling. 262 00:13:00,200 --> 00:13:01,200 Why do they need help? 263 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:02,920 They had steam engines. 264 00:13:02,920 --> 00:13:05,320 They were towed out there and they were stationary. 265 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:06,320 Yeah. 266 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,560 And what was the light on them? 267 00:13:07,560 --> 00:13:09,400 Was it electric at the time? 268 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:16,480 Or was the boat was the ship itself just brightly colored? 269 00:13:16,480 --> 00:13:17,680 It had a lot. 270 00:13:17,680 --> 00:13:21,560 We need to do a history on light ships because I thought we had. 271 00:13:21,560 --> 00:13:24,120 I think we talked about. 272 00:13:24,120 --> 00:13:25,820 Maybe I'm thinking of a different word. 273 00:13:25,820 --> 00:13:27,160 Lighthouse tenders is what I'm thinking. 274 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:28,160 Oh, no. 275 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:29,160 Not lightship. 276 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:30,160 Yeah, these are lightships. 277 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,880 Although I can see how the terms would be confused. 278 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,080 I can see how I got confused. 279 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,480 Of course, that makes sense for smart people to think those things. 280 00:13:39,480 --> 00:13:46,280 But anyway, these were built by the Blythe Craig Shipbuilding Company of Toledo, Ohio, 281 00:13:46,280 --> 00:13:51,560 and were towed to their spots by October of that same year with LV 55, just light vessel 282 00:13:51,560 --> 00:13:58,200 55 at Simmons Reef, 56 at White Shoal and 57 at Grace, which I had to look up all of 283 00:13:58,200 --> 00:13:59,200 those individually. 284 00:13:59,200 --> 00:14:00,200 So go me. 285 00:14:00,200 --> 00:14:01,200 Good for you. 286 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:02,200 Thank you. 287 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:03,200 It's quality research. 288 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:04,200 Quality research. 289 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:11,880 So LV 56, which is the one at White Shoals was attached to a five ton sinker by 15 fathoms 290 00:14:11,880 --> 00:14:12,880 of two inch chain. 291 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:13,880 Heck yeah. 292 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:14,880 We talked fathoms early on. 293 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:18,600 I saw the fathoms and I was like, oh, I got to bring this up for Vince. 294 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:25,320 Anyway, life was not too agreeable on this vessel, allegedly, with the entire crew abandoning 295 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:28,400 the ship against orders within three weeks. 296 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:29,400 That's fast. 297 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:30,400 Yeah. 298 00:14:30,400 --> 00:14:32,440 So then of course they were all fired and then a new crew was found. 299 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:34,760 But it just shows that it was pretty rough. 300 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:35,760 Yeah. 301 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:39,160 Being stationed out on a light ship was not the same as being stationed on a lighthouse. 302 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:41,680 It's a lighthouse that rocks all the time. 303 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:42,680 Yeah. 304 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,440 And not as like protective, I would think. 305 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:46,440 Right. 306 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:47,440 Oh yeah. 307 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,440 The rocking would. 308 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,560 I've seen videos of people in the Coast Guard or like in the Navy and it just shows them 309 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,480 like walking sideways on like a desk. 310 00:14:55,480 --> 00:14:56,480 Yes. 311 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,560 Because it's waves are so crazy. 312 00:14:58,560 --> 00:14:59,560 Yeah. 313 00:14:59,560 --> 00:15:01,800 I have I've never been on a boat like that. 314 00:15:01,800 --> 00:15:02,800 Yeah. 315 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:08,600 I've been on a couple of rocking boats, but nothing large where, well, we're going to 316 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:09,600 stay out in a storm. 317 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:10,600 No. 318 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:11,600 Yeah. 319 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:12,600 Never. 320 00:15:12,600 --> 00:15:13,920 I can't imagine it. 321 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:15,720 So finally in 1907. 322 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:17,400 So this is a pretty late lighthouse. 323 00:15:17,400 --> 00:15:24,760 1907 Congress put aside $250,000, which is $8.5 million in today's money. 324 00:15:24,760 --> 00:15:25,760 It's crazy. 325 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:30,160 For a lighthouse and fog house to be built on White Shoal since the current vessel had 326 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,360 to be removed during winter months due to ice. 327 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:35,080 And so they wanted something that was going to be there year round. 328 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:36,080 No problem. 329 00:15:36,080 --> 00:15:42,880 So the foundation work was awarded to the lowest bidder for $93,785 plus 60 cents. 330 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,480 I'm like so specific. 331 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:46,720 Very firm price. 332 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:49,560 With Gillen Construction Company of Milwaukee. 333 00:15:49,560 --> 00:15:51,860 May 1908 construction started. 334 00:15:51,860 --> 00:15:57,040 The rock was leveled and 400,000 square feet of timber cribbing was built onshore and then 335 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,720 towed over to site. 336 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:03,760 And then they sunk it onto the shoal that they had prepped with 4,000 tons of rock and 337 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:06,520 3,600 cubic yards of concrete. 338 00:16:06,520 --> 00:16:13,160 There's a really great old photo showing this crib before the lighthouse was built on top. 339 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:14,160 Because it was incredible. 340 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:15,720 Like a two year endeavor. 341 00:16:15,720 --> 00:16:16,720 Wow. 342 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,720 There's a picture. 343 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:19,720 And it's funny because in the photo it looks short. 344 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,240 But then you see the man standing on the side. 345 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:26,160 I'm pretty sure it was 20 feet above sea level. 346 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,120 The total height of just the crib. 347 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:29,120 Yeah. 348 00:16:29,120 --> 00:16:33,720 If he's looking, I mean maybe not the average back then, but let's say six foot. 349 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:34,720 Yeah. 350 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:37,480 Three of him plus any of those gentlemen. 351 00:16:37,480 --> 00:16:38,480 Yeah. 352 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,480 That's crazy. 353 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,720 Pretty cool to see a good photo from early 1900s. 354 00:16:41,720 --> 00:16:42,720 Of the construction. 355 00:16:42,720 --> 00:16:43,720 Right. 356 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,800 And they usually have pictures, especially in like National Archives and in like USLHS, 357 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:52,720 they have pictures of the half completed lighthouse or like the lighthouse without the lantern 358 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:58,280 room, but never of like just the foundation or something like that. 359 00:16:58,280 --> 00:17:03,160 So it's special to have a photo that actually clearly shows this crib being built. 360 00:17:03,160 --> 00:17:04,160 It's pretty cool. 361 00:17:04,160 --> 00:17:05,160 It is. 362 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:09,560 On top of that, they had a reinforced concrete pier built 20 feet above the water line to 363 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:11,380 support the lighthouse. 364 00:17:11,380 --> 00:17:14,920 And then by the time this was completed, winter was approaching, so they erected a skeleton 365 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:19,400 tower with a temporary acetylene light on top. 366 00:17:19,400 --> 00:17:24,760 Keep touching this coffee and it's like super condensate. 367 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,080 In the industry, we say it's sweating. 368 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,080 In the industry. 369 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:34,320 Isn't that like a normal human word for this? 370 00:17:34,320 --> 00:17:35,360 Probably. 371 00:17:35,360 --> 00:17:36,360 But also in the industry. 372 00:17:36,360 --> 00:17:41,200 In 1909, the pier was completed as was the exterior of the steel and concrete lighthouse 373 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:43,200 aside from the lantern room. 374 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:44,200 And this is what I was talking about earlier. 375 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:48,880 It was coated with gunite after completion, which is just sprayed concrete. 376 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:52,360 So like the outside, like its coating was sprayed. 377 00:17:52,360 --> 00:17:53,360 I don't know. 378 00:17:53,360 --> 00:17:57,840 I feel like that would be not the cleanest application. 379 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,640 So 1909 is when we're talking. 380 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:01,640 Yeah. 381 00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,480 When do they, I don't mean to jump ahead of you. 382 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:04,480 We'll keep going. 383 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:12,160 The light was established in September of 1910 and LV 56 was reassigned to North Manitou 384 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:15,040 Shoals, which got its own lighthouse in 1935. 385 00:18:15,040 --> 00:18:18,560 So super late, only three years before Coast Guard took over. 386 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,560 So what was it? 387 00:18:20,560 --> 00:18:23,940 1912 was or 1911 somewhere in there. 388 00:18:23,940 --> 00:18:25,440 The Titanic sank. 389 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:26,440 Oh, right. 390 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:27,440 Yeah. 391 00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:28,440 Why does that feel like? 392 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,440 I want to say 1910 to 13, somewhere in there. 393 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,960 I should know these things. 394 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:37,920 But the reason I bring it up is just, so I've considered doing an episode on lighthouse 395 00:18:37,920 --> 00:18:38,920 construction. 396 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:39,920 1912, good one. 397 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,120 Yeah, look at me. 398 00:18:42,120 --> 00:18:48,160 But one of the reasons I haven't yet is that there's so many different eras in technologies 399 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:52,960 and so many different ways people have built lighthouses and parts of them. 400 00:18:52,960 --> 00:18:54,640 So it's something more I was going to be able to talk about. 401 00:18:54,640 --> 00:18:59,520 But I was thinking about like, you know, this day in history, what was going on with construction 402 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:00,520 and something. 403 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:07,000 I took a class in college, mechanics of materials and materials. 404 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:12,080 And one of the things we talked about was the Titanic as an example of steel production. 405 00:19:12,080 --> 00:19:16,520 So there's a ductile to brittle transition temperature, DBTT. 406 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,400 And I probably said this before on the podcast. 407 00:19:19,400 --> 00:19:26,120 But at a certain degree, untreated steel, meaning steel that is not blended with other 408 00:19:26,120 --> 00:19:29,600 metals, which is alloying. 409 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:35,920 Steel will become brittle to where if you introduce a crack, like with a iceberg, the 410 00:19:35,920 --> 00:19:38,400 steel actually sheared like a piece of paper. 411 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:46,040 It cracked as if it were porcelain, you know, which is something that was a lesson learned 412 00:19:46,040 --> 00:19:47,160 of that time. 413 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:54,560 But that's crazy to me that you had World War One go on shortly after that, early 1910s, 414 00:19:54,560 --> 00:19:55,560 I think. 415 00:19:55,560 --> 00:20:01,160 And then, you know, it can continue down the ramble ramble ramble all through technology 416 00:20:01,160 --> 00:20:02,160 and history. 417 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,280 But right now, like these folks are building this structure, not knowing so many things 418 00:20:06,280 --> 00:20:07,280 that we know today. 419 00:20:07,280 --> 00:20:08,280 Yeah. 420 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,200 And in some way, kind of doing a better job. 421 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,480 Because it's all they got. 422 00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:14,520 They're doing all they got. 423 00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,640 But all these these men are all tradesmen. 424 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:17,640 They're all specialists. 425 00:20:17,640 --> 00:20:20,360 You know, I'm sure it wasn't an easy life. 426 00:20:20,360 --> 00:20:24,640 But it's so interesting to me that people were so skilled. 427 00:20:24,640 --> 00:20:26,080 And they just really gambled on themselves. 428 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 They bet on themselves like, yeah, we can build it. 429 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:32,600 Like the low bidder won the cribbing contracts we're talking about. 430 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:34,040 Yeah, there's like, we can make it happen. 431 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:35,520 Have they ever even done one before? 432 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:36,520 Yeah, true. 433 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:41,160 Yeah, that would be a good a little add on like what's going on in construction, because 434 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:44,200 it's like, is it revolutionary at that time? 435 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:48,080 Or was it like something that they're well versed in? 436 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:49,640 Yeah, interesting. 437 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:50,640 Yeah. 438 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:56,560 The 1912 annual report of the Commissioner of Lighthouses said, quote, I'm doing a lot 439 00:20:56,560 --> 00:21:00,440 of reading in this episode because it's it's better sometimes straight from the horse's 440 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:01,440 mouth. 441 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:04,760 But quote, the deck of the pier supports an ornamental cylindrical. 442 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:05,760 Wait a minute. 443 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:06,760 I have a photo. 444 00:21:06,760 --> 00:21:09,280 Wait a minute. 445 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:10,280 Pop that photo. 446 00:21:10,280 --> 00:21:12,400 Here we've got the completed lighthouse. 447 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,880 Oh, it's pretty. 448 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Yes. 449 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:19,720 And that black band around the bottom, it was like 38 feet up, I want to say. 450 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:20,880 It says it later in my notes. 451 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,880 No way. 452 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:24,520 But it counted as its day mark is this black band. 453 00:21:24,520 --> 00:21:25,520 That is cool. 454 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:26,520 It's an iron. 455 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:27,520 Well, maybe not iron. 456 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:28,520 It looks metal. 457 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,520 Is that wood or metal? 458 00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:33,880 It's concrete painted, I believe. 459 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:34,880 Even cooler. 460 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:35,880 I could be wrong. 461 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:36,880 This is a very cool lighthouse. 462 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:40,280 And I love the little ship that's next to the entry ladder. 463 00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:41,720 I think that's so cute. 464 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:43,920 Do you want to describe it for our listeners only? 465 00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:44,920 Lighthouse? 466 00:21:44,920 --> 00:21:46,520 Only listeners, not watchers. 467 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,520 Yeah. 468 00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:51,040 It's all white, has lots of windows, which they say today is really nice because there's 469 00:21:51,040 --> 00:21:52,040 no AC. 470 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:56,800 And so air blows straight through the lighthouse and there's always like at least a breeze, 471 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:58,000 usually high winds. 472 00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,560 So it's actually pretty comfortable in there when it gets hot. 473 00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:01,560 All white. 474 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:02,560 You can see the brick pattern. 475 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:05,880 It has a aluminum lantern room. 476 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,320 So it was like very bright and reflective. 477 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:12,440 And I think it was the only aluminum one on the Great Lakes at the very least. 478 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:13,440 Pretty neat. 479 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,760 I think 125 feet from the pier. 480 00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:22,120 So above water level, it was like 145 or something. 481 00:22:22,120 --> 00:22:23,120 It's beautiful. 482 00:22:23,120 --> 00:22:24,120 Maybe more. 483 00:22:24,120 --> 00:22:25,120 I can't remember. 484 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:27,960 Cool day mark, kind of that low black band. 485 00:22:27,960 --> 00:22:32,760 The windows are all tall, rectangular, except for the upper level, which I don't remember 486 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:33,760 what that's called. 487 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:35,540 And it's got some faux. 488 00:22:35,540 --> 00:22:39,840 So I didn't get to research too far into this, but this picture shows it really well. 489 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:45,240 These massive front doors you can see in comparison of the guy that's standing up front. 490 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,280 They're metal doors. 491 00:22:46,280 --> 00:22:51,280 And it's because there was a boat inside the bottom of the lighthouse that they would take 492 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:52,640 out to use. 493 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:57,760 I think it was a motorboat or at least it was in like in the future from this image. 494 00:22:57,760 --> 00:22:58,760 Yeah. 495 00:22:58,760 --> 00:22:59,760 Very cool. 496 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:00,760 Thank you. 497 00:23:00,760 --> 00:23:01,760 You're welcome. 498 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:02,760 So I get get back to my quote. 499 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:04,320 I was like, oh my gosh, wait, I have a photo. 500 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:09,160 So the deck of the pier supports an ornamental cylindrical base for a conical shaped tower 501 00:23:09,160 --> 00:23:15,200 surmounted by a cylindrical service room, watch room and first order helical bar lantern 502 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,680 whose focal plane is 105 feet above the deck of the pier. 503 00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:23,600 The tower is of structural steel backed with brick and faced with terracotta with certain 504 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:28,560 cast iron parts and trimmings and with a gallery deck watch room and lantern made of aluminum. 505 00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:34,720 It goes on to describe the floors, which I'll pull up a picture for those are watching of 506 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,320 a breakdown of what the floors look like. 507 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:39,280 Out there are four keepers at the station. 508 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:44,680 The tower is nine stories in height, including the cellar on the in the interior of the pier, 509 00:23:44,680 --> 00:23:46,840 which contains the oil tanks. 510 00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,760 Above this is the first floor on level with deck of pier outside containing rooms for 511 00:23:50,760 --> 00:23:54,880 the fog signal machinery, heating plant stores, closets and powerboat. 512 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:59,320 The powerboat is the thing we were talking about that needed the big doors on the second 513 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:03,320 floor are tool room, bathroom and kitchen store room. 514 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:07,880 The third floor contains kitchen, living room and bedroom, the fourth floor, two bedrooms, 515 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:09,680 toilet, etc. 516 00:24:09,680 --> 00:24:12,280 The fifth floor, a bedroom and general sitting room. 517 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,140 The sixth and seventh one large room each. 518 00:24:15,140 --> 00:24:18,680 The eighth contains the service room, which is immediately below the watch room of the 519 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:19,840 lantern. 520 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:24,080 The stairs are not centrally located but are amply provided for near the outer walls of 521 00:24:24,080 --> 00:24:25,080 the tower. 522 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,000 Supplies are landed directly on the pier from the tender and the keeper's powerboat is stowed 523 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:33,560 within the tower in a corridor on the first floor and the rowboat on the pier outside. 524 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,760 That was all from the annual report of the commissioner of lighthouse. 525 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:37,760 Very official. 526 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:38,760 Yeah. 527 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:42,740 So that mechanical room, the eighth floor, that's the one that I was pointing out has 528 00:24:42,740 --> 00:24:44,280 porthole windows in it. 529 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:45,280 Oh, really? 530 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:46,280 Yeah. 531 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:47,280 Very cool. 532 00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:53,680 And then it's that's the cylindrical room, I would say above the conical area. 533 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:55,640 But I really hope this is still there. 534 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:56,640 What? 535 00:24:56,640 --> 00:24:57,640 This lighthouse. 536 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,640 It is. 537 00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,640 It's still there. 538 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:00,640 Oh, let's go. 539 00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:01,640 It's pretty cool. 540 00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:05,040 They have a lot of awesome current history going on right now. 541 00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:06,360 Come on, Michigan. 542 00:25:06,360 --> 00:25:07,360 Let's go. 543 00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:08,360 Let's go. 544 00:25:08,360 --> 00:25:12,520 So they had a second order flashing lens on a mercury float, which is another history 545 00:25:12,520 --> 00:25:19,760 buoy I'm going to do is I found some some data on mercury floats, like how they came 546 00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,160 to be and like their downfall and all that. 547 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:23,680 We talked a little bit about them. 548 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:24,920 We did at some point. 549 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,920 Yeah. 550 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,840 And who was it that told us? 551 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:30,040 We were wrong 552 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:35,320 That was Fred Stonehouse Fred. Yes, so maybe I'm stepping on your material 553 00:25:35,320 --> 00:25:42,500 But Fred mentioned a lot of the Great Lakes Lighthouses are not mercury floats. I can't remember why 554 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,760 The main reason is that 555 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:49,880 So this is a good example. Actually. The main reason is that Great Lakes 556 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:55,240 Did not often have anything more than a fourth order lens. Okay, they weren't that heavy 557 00:25:55,240 --> 00:25:59,640 So you didn't need something like a mercury float in order to rotate the lens 558 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:03,240 You could just use clockwork and it wouldn't put a bunch of stress on anything wasn't heavy enough 559 00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:06,860 But the second order lens is the largest that's ever been on the Great Lakes 560 00:26:06,860 --> 00:26:11,440 and so they needed something like a mercury float to reduce the 561 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:17,720 Pressure. Yeah, so it could still reduce the friction so it could still rotate. Yeah, right. Cool. I'm excited to learn more 562 00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:23,200 Yeah, so this lens was lit by mineral oil that was pumped from the bottom of the station, which is like 125 feet 563 00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:28,440 It's a lot of head. It's a lot. Yeah, and we talked a lot about how keepers had to lug 564 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:33,320 buckets or you know containers of oil up all the stairs 565 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,680 So it's it's nice that this lighthouse was built in a time where you could just install a pump 566 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:44,080 I'm curious how that yeah, it's 19 something. So they were around. I'm curious what style of pump and all that 567 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,920 I'm studying. I'm studying for my professional engineering license exam 568 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:54,080 And I one of the sections I read last night was the various types of pumps at least for HVAC use 569 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:56,240 Yes 570 00:26:56,240 --> 00:27:02,960 So the lens was rotated by clockwork with hanging weights with run rotation every 32 seconds 571 00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:07,520 I have a picture here. I think the photo was taken in the 90s 572 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:13,160 But this is this was the the second order lens that we had it was by valve or clam shell time 573 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:16,200 Pretty the largest we ever had in the Great Lakes 574 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:23,520 Lots of copper there's this neat photo of when it was being assembled or maybe taken apart of just the bullseye 575 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:29,000 Which I thought was awesome because we've never seen one half taken apart super cool. No, I have not 576 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:33,280 I wonder if they have bolts that go in those copper sections 577 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:38,920 Or how that works. You know, they've got to be easily replaceable when something's damaged or scratched 578 00:27:38,920 --> 00:27:44,840 I see in that that bullseye image on the right. It looks like holes. Yeah, maybe they're tapped for screws 579 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:50,940 Mm-hmm interesting. So yeah, currently it's at a shipwreck museum at Whitefish Point light station in 580 00:27:51,660 --> 00:27:57,800 Michigan somewhere. I'm thinking of Montana. Obviously that's not I don't think there's any lighthouses in Montana 581 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:04,240 But yeah Paradise Michigan's where it's located cool. It's a skeleton light never looked up. It's pretty. Oh my gosh 582 00:28:04,780 --> 00:28:07,580 Lots of buildings another one to add the list 583 00:28:08,740 --> 00:28:11,840 So the total cost of this lighthouse being built ended up being 584 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:17,280 two hundred and twenty four and a half thousand dollars they saw with a skill 500 bucks under 585 00:28:17,880 --> 00:28:20,000 Under budget 25,000 underneath. Oh 586 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,160 Nice, I would have said 500 and kept the cash 587 00:28:24,920 --> 00:28:31,180 That's unethical not really it's not ethical sweetheart for everyone out there that knows me that's not actually true 588 00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:38,080 So, let's see another fun point is that this is the tallest lighthouse on the Great Lakes today 589 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:43,800 Oh cool. I didn't know that it doesn't look that tall from you know 590 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,840 We've talked about this lighthouses that are just out in the middle like corridor one 591 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:52,600 Yeah with nothing next to it. Nothing to gauge the size of it 592 00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:58,040 It doesn't look like it's that tall but it's still pretty tall for a Great Lakes to have a second order and 593 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,520 Be over a hundred feet tall is like whoa 594 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:04,880 So 1930 there's not a lot that happened to this lighthouse 595 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:10,420 so it's mostly like current things that are really exciting, but in 1930 the Illuminate was changed electricity and 596 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:15,760 Originally it was a white tower as you could see in the older photos that we showed 597 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:21,680 And I had a narrow black band at 38 feet. So yep, that's a pretty early transition. Go ahead in 598 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,880 1927 it was changed to a all-black lighthouse 599 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,520 Which painted black was not common at all? 600 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:35,440 But when you think about it, it's against sky and water so black would stand out 601 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:41,880 Especially if the Sun's coming down and it's like yeah the lights reflecting like would you see white as well as you would see black? 602 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:45,560 I don't think so. Well and at nighttime, it's gonna be black anyways, right? 603 00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:51,040 I mean the lights all you're gonna see the day mark is not really relevant at night. Black is interesting 604 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:53,040 Yeah, and then of course, it's 605 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:59,520 Michigan so the ice gets crazy in the winter so it's important to distinguish it from that that makes sense 606 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:05,300 But they repainted it back to white ten years after that in 1937. Wonder why the ten years? 607 00:30:05,300 --> 00:30:09,800 There's got to be lessons learned. Yeah, maybe there's a wreck or maybe it was expensive 608 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:16,720 Got dirty. I think black must have been a lot more expensive than white black cars are hard to keep clean. So 609 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:23,820 Oh 1954 white Scholes got the red spiral markings that we see today 610 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,520 Barber shop candy cane, what are we talking? Barber shop and candy cane refer to the same 611 00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:40,000 This is what we originally had and there was black and then back to this original and now we have 612 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,300 This barbershop, which is the only that's cool. The only barbershop 613 00:30:44,300 --> 00:30:51,460 Striped lighthouse in the US and only candy striped light on the Great Lakes. Really? Yeah, it's the only one 614 00:30:51,460 --> 00:30:57,660 Mm-hmm. I wonder if it's always been the only one. Is that ice by the way? Yes, the amount of ice is insane 615 00:30:57,660 --> 00:31:03,460 I have a picture later that kind of shows like a glacier cliff next to one of them or next to the lighthouse 616 00:31:03,460 --> 00:31:05,460 It's kind of crazy. That makes me nervous 617 00:31:05,460 --> 00:31:11,620 By the way, I meant red and white barber striped is it's the only one in the US because we have like Kay Patras and 618 00:31:11,620 --> 00:31:14,740 St. Augustine which are a barber stripe, but they're black and white 619 00:31:14,740 --> 00:31:20,180 Yeah, so just to specify and this is red in a black and white photo. Yes, very cool 620 00:31:20,740 --> 00:31:22,740 You see if I have a photo? 621 00:31:23,140 --> 00:31:27,300 Of it in color. Oh, yeah, awesome and embedded in ice 622 00:31:29,180 --> 00:31:34,560 Well, and that makes sense too because it's on a three foot deep water area the shoal 623 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:40,320 And so the water is gonna be able to freeze there before and in deeper water and climb up over time 624 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:45,200 That looks cold very Christmassy. Yeah, it is cute. Nice Christmas card 625 00:31:46,200 --> 00:31:52,360 1976 the station was automated and de-staffed as were the lights on Grays Reef and Lansing shoals. So late 626 00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,300 electrified early automated late interesting in May 627 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:03,560 2014 so we're skipping ahead White Shoals lighthouse was deemed excess by the Coast Guard and made available under the guidelines of the National Historic 628 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:07,760 Lighthouse Preservation Act, but nobody claimed it because it would have been 629 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,760 So expensive. Yeah to 630 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:11,280 fix 631 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,280 Especially after being abandoned for decades. Oh 632 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:20,680 76 to 14. Yep. That's a lifetime. It's a long time for me 633 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,280 It was put up for bid with a starting amount of $15,000 and at the end of the high bid was 634 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:33,600 $110,000 and $9 to what would become the White Shoal light historical preservation society with the goal to fix it up to 635 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,960 1950s condition and make it available to the public for people to stay at I like that 636 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,880 Yeah, I know I like it when they make it vintage if I had the money I would buy a hundred ten thousand dollar lighthouse 637 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,720 Yeah, but I would all I mean given what we know now 638 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:52,240 I would also give it to some lighthouse lighthouse friends group like true 639 00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:54,760 some someone to help take care of it and 640 00:32:55,280 --> 00:32:56,800 Keep it around for more than just me 641 00:32:56,800 --> 00:33:00,200 You gotta be prepared because it's gonna be your whole life 642 00:33:00,200 --> 00:33:05,560 Like the amount of planning that has to go into like funding alone is insane. But also 643 00:33:06,200 --> 00:33:08,600 like you got to pay to have a 644 00:33:09,320 --> 00:33:12,920 Boat bring supplies like if you don't even think about all those little details 645 00:33:12,920 --> 00:33:19,640 This is so far offshore and you got to have even the transportation of materials in order to do 646 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,560 Any sort of renovation would be insane. Well, even if you were 647 00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:25,640 Super wealthy 648 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:34,000 Super wealthy multiple millions tens 20s 30s millions and this is a toy of yours like you just think it's cool 649 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,400 There's no standard 650 00:33:37,600 --> 00:33:43,000 Services like like oh, I need a I need a house cleaner. So you hire one. I need someone to watch the kids 651 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,560 So you hire somebody? Oh, I need someone to paint my lighthouse 652 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:52,440 I need someone to check in on the foundation for the crib like you gotta have people that are really nodule 653 00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:56,840 Nodule nodule nodule a lighthouse nudgeable 654 00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,120 Knowledgeable each side or subject. Oh very 655 00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:05,600 Very passionate based project. I'm sure 656 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,640 So if you go to their website, which will be linked in my show notes 657 00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:14,840 they have a section that's called what you need to know if you're considering an overnight stay a white shawl light and 658 00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:20,800 There's 19 points. A lot of them are about physical requirements that you have to climb a bunch of stairs and 659 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:27,000 Back and forth from like there's two bathroom floors and you don't stay on those floors. So you have to like climb back and forth 660 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,320 There's 143 steps from the deck to the lantern room 661 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:36,600 so it's just like a lot of climbing cell service is met and you need to bring food to cook during your stay yourself and 662 00:34:37,080 --> 00:34:41,560 Water from the tap is straight from the lake. So you have to bring bottled water for drinking 663 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:48,080 Yeah, it's kind of like you it's an like you have your little camping. Yes. It's super cool, though 664 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:52,200 And once you're on the station, you are not removed until it is safe to do 665 00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,320 So even if that means you stay an extra night or two 666 00:34:54,440 --> 00:35:00,240 Which you don't get charged for but if you're like planning on flying home the next day and you have to stay 667 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,240 Do you know do they have? 668 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,520 Heating and like hot water cold air 669 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040 The AC say yes to hot water 670 00:35:08,840 --> 00:35:11,100 But no to AC and no to heat 671 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,520 Wonder what it'd be like on the lake. I mean, obviously it's weather dependent 672 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:17,640 But like in the middle of summer 673 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:25,760 Right now right now. It's the end of July early August. So like what is it? What's the temperature of the lighthouse wonder? 674 00:35:26,640 --> 00:35:32,240 But they said it's really high humidity, which is what like kind of leads to the discomfort in the lighthouse 675 00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:34,240 but then they also talked about all of the 676 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:39,720 The windows that are across from each other so you get like a nice cross breeze going if you have all the windows open 677 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,880 That's awesome. You open so I took this quote straight from their website 678 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:46,200 Quote you are signing up to stay at a hundred and ten year old 679 00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:49,560 Historic structure that is currently in the process of being restored 680 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:53,560 You'll be provided clean private rooms and modern bathrooms during your stay 681 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:58,400 There are however many areas of the lighthouse that are still in their 1976 abandoned state 682 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,960 Complete with flaking paint spiders and everything else you need you would expect to find in an old house 683 00:36:04,360 --> 00:36:09,480 If you are envisioning modern tiled bathrooms and ornate guest quarters, this experience is not for you 684 00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:14,480 All areas of the lighthouse are open for you to explore with the exception of our basement dungeon deck 685 00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:21,200 What also when they say spiders I looked up what kind of spiders they're talking about because I think of like little spiders 686 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:27,280 They're talking about orb weavers. Have you seen what those look like? No, and how do they get to the lighthouse? I don't know 687 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:34,520 There's no one else asking that question they're talking about lots of them too. They're not like oh you may see one or two 688 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:37,100 It's like clusters of orb weavers. I don't know what that is 689 00:36:37,100 --> 00:36:40,960 Okay, let me show you or be the cool name. I think they're harmless 690 00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:44,600 I'm pretty sure they're harmless and you may recognize them because it sticks with you 691 00:36:45,160 --> 00:36:51,800 These sons of it. Wow, they weave an orb long knobby legs bright colors large 692 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:56,260 Things you don't want to ever touch you a 693 00:36:57,000 --> 00:37:01,920 Day in your life the venom amount comparable to the sting of a bee. Yeah, so unless you're allergic 694 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,160 It's not a problem. Just be 695 00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:10,160 Very I think they're pretty tame so unlikely to bite you. You just bring a house cat with you. Oh my gosh 696 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,600 No, why you don't subject them to venom? Oh, I forgot about that part 697 00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,580 We're the only ones that are important. I was thinking of the cats eating them 698 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:21,680 And not getting the venom 699 00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,960 They pick it out. So another quote from their 700 00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:33,720 List says there's a 90 minute boat ride that departs Mackinac City aboard our restored 30-foot Coast Guard utility boat, which is awesome 701 00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,320 The boat has a small forward cabin for gear 702 00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:40,720 But the passenger area is wide open to the elements depending on wind and wave conditions 703 00:37:40,720 --> 00:37:45,680 You should plan on getting wet as well as your gear to and from the lighthouse. Yeah, so it's not glamorous 704 00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:49,380 That's for sure. Also adventure is the best number 19 705 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:54,000 There has been paranormal activity reported by guests and staff at the light station 706 00:37:54,000 --> 00:37:55,320 and 707 00:37:55,320 --> 00:37:57,320 Adventure I want to go I 708 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,440 Want to be on a boat and the worst part is you can't even get away 709 00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:05,920 So if you're freaked out by the spiders you're freaked out by the ghosts. How do the spiders get? 710 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,920 How far is this off the coast? 711 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:13,760 The spiders on the waterfront like walking along the water. Am I crazy for asking these questions? 712 00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:18,180 Can spiders swim? Why would they swim out to a lighthouse? 713 00:38:18,180 --> 00:38:22,940 Well, if they get stuck in the water they climb on to whatever they find 714 00:38:22,940 --> 00:38:28,940 So there's like one clan of spiders that's like been there for a thousand years 715 00:38:28,940 --> 00:38:30,940 Yeah 716 00:38:30,940 --> 00:38:37,940 It's like the snakes we talked about snake island line where they become their own type of snake because they've been separated for so long 717 00:38:37,940 --> 00:38:39,940 That would be crazy 718 00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:41,940 Special orb weavers 719 00:38:41,940 --> 00:38:43,940 It's still one of our biggest YouTube hits 720 00:38:43,940 --> 00:38:45,140 Really? 721 00:38:45,140 --> 00:38:48,380 I didn't get a lot of attention on our actual listener base 722 00:38:49,220 --> 00:38:53,700 Anyway for two people to stay here. It is three thousand dollars for a three night adventure package 723 00:38:53,700 --> 00:38:58,480 So definitely expensive and it has a five person maximum 724 00:38:58,780 --> 00:39:05,260 But if you rent it out for five people you get fifteen hundred dollars off. So you get like a deal a little discount 725 00:39:06,020 --> 00:39:07,220 1500 726 00:39:07,220 --> 00:39:11,720 So is it three grand for the whole thing for a couple? Yeah, cuz like 727 00:39:11,720 --> 00:39:14,680 Can another couple stay there? There's three floors 728 00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:19,600 There's one floor that can have two people one floor that has one person and another floor that has two people 729 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,600 Okay, so you basically book a floor, huh? 730 00:39:23,600 --> 00:39:27,600 And then in between each of those so if you book the whole place they give you a not a break 731 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,600 Yeah, they give you a discount for booking 732 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:33,600 Well, I don't think I can afford that right now 733 00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:38,600 Maybe I could stay outside. Maybe I could set up a tent be so cold 734 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:43,600 It doesn't matter what time of year it is the wind and everything like good night 735 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:51,600 That's pretty neat so they had a question that I put on here as well there was like frequently asked questions 736 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,600 So can we show up at the light station unannounced? 737 00:39:55,600 --> 00:39:59,600 And it's just the description of what you have to do is just hilarious to me 738 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,600 Yes, you are welcome to come out to the light station at any time day or night to take pictures 739 00:40:03,600 --> 00:40:06,600 That does not necessarily mean you will be granted access to the structure 740 00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:11,600 If we happen to be open for tours, which is so funny like in the middle of nowhere like actually 741 00:40:12,600 --> 00:40:15,600 Middle of nowhere in the water if we're open for tours 742 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:22,600 Like if you just show up in the middle of the water and we're open, I just think it's funny 743 00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:27,600 There's just someone sitting there at a table. Yeah, we're open. It's like how often do people come by here? 744 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:31,600 Anyway, if we happen to be open for tours upon your arrival 745 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:33,600 We will have a safe place for you to tie up 746 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:41,600 Then we will lower you down a bucket the bucket will contain the liability waiver as well as instructions on how to pay the $30 per person fee 747 00:40:41,600 --> 00:40:44,600 Obviously, it will be easier to have this all pre arranged 748 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:49,600 So I think you can call and plan to show up at the lighthouse. How far is this offshore? 749 00:40:49,600 --> 00:40:54,600 I tried to look it up, but it's a 90 minute boat ride. So it's obviously not close. Is that the closest? 750 00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,600 Mackinaw City is the closest port. No, I don't think so 751 00:40:59,600 --> 00:41:06,600 I don't think so because that's 20 miles. Do you think 20 miles is closest? There's no way there's got to be some 752 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,600 I mean, they're big lakes. I guess it's hard to look up distance from a shoreline 753 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:14,600 I tried it several times with lighthouses and it just gets difficult before they had to scale it on Google Maps. Yeah 754 00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,600 Anyways, that's crazy 755 00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:19,600 Once the waiver is signed and 756 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:25,600 Restoration fee has been paid you and your guests will be invited onto the structure for a 90 minute guided tour 757 00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,600 So I just thought it was funny. We'll lower you down a bucket 758 00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:31,600 Like cute 759 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:36,600 So the lighthouse this year is closed for renovations. They've been doing it since 2018 760 00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,600 Which I'm gonna show you their plan their renovation plan 761 00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:44,600 But I don't think it's been updated since the whole coven thing happened 762 00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:51,600 So I bet it's pushed back a few years, especially because right now you can tell that the exterior paint hasn't been fixed yet 763 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:58,600 And that was supposed to happen in the first phase of their restoration. So I'll show I'll pull that up 764 00:41:58,600 --> 00:42:04,600 Right now but they're closed this year last year. They were open for people to stay and next year 765 00:42:04,600 --> 00:42:06,600 They're planning to be open again 766 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:13,600 2025 nice phase one was supposed to be 18 to 21 and it was basically like getting rid of the lead paint and asbestos 767 00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:20,600 Asbestos full engineering evaluation to figure out what had to be done. There's like all kinds of heavy reworking 768 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:24,600 Stabilizing the structure. So like really big stuff 769 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:31,600 They were gonna launch the tugboat Titan to transport machinery supplies and personnel from the lighthouse. That's pretty cool 770 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:37,600 All that kind of stuff install new windows interior paint prep and then new exterior paint was supposed to happen in that first phase 771 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:43,600 So I couldn't really find what phase they're in right now. I want to say maybe they're still in the first phase. I don't know 772 00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:50,600 But second phase was supposed to be 22 through 24. That was like continued restoration through the inside 773 00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:58,600 Damaged glass panes in the lantern room decorative railings, etc. Rebuild massive boat house doors, which I would love to see 774 00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:04,600 And then the last phase was 2020 for 2025 and was a lot of 775 00:43:04,600 --> 00:43:11,600 Outfitting the inside with the 1950s memorabilia that we're gonna have an on-site gift shop a maritime museum 776 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:15,600 And then they would have full staffing and day tours and overnight bookings and all that 777 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,600 So it'll come back. Yeah, so much work. I hope so crazy 778 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,600 I this is a little silly to say if you've listened to a lot of our episodes 779 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,600 you know this or if you're in the Lighthouses, you know this but I 780 00:43:28,600 --> 00:43:35,600 It's a huge effort within the entire community of lighthouse folks to connect with resources 781 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:40,600 Mainly funding. Yeah, I don't know their their business. Obviously. I don't know what's going on here 782 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:43,600 like how that funding situation is but I 783 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,600 Early on I discovered when we were getting into this a need 784 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:54,600 You know one of the many lighthouses that was asking for fundraising for a certain program 785 00:43:54,600 --> 00:44:01,600 Yeah, and I made a donation. I just thought it was super cool. You know this and that and 786 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,600 I'm sure it did nothing. Like yeah, I I 787 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:10,600 This is easy for me to say it. It's always yeah 788 00:44:10,600 --> 00:44:16,600 It's always easy to say this but like my what I can donate at this time is just not significant 789 00:44:16,600 --> 00:44:19,600 But if we did have people being involved 790 00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:26,600 It's like the conversation we had recently with Jeremy to extra month about how to get people younger folks like ourselves 791 00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:28,600 into lighthouse culture 792 00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,600 Vested how do we help out? How do we get tied in? 793 00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:37,600 And obviously there's a lot of people doing a lot of work to do that. But right. Yeah, I'm sure there's people out there 794 00:44:37,600 --> 00:44:43,600 They're looking to to donate to some cause. Yeah. So, do you know are we going to talk about is there an avenue? 795 00:44:44,600 --> 00:44:46,600 Easily available to do it 796 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:53,600 Which I have in the show notes you can donate and also you can volunteer which they're not doing right now because 797 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:55,600 they're 798 00:44:55,600 --> 00:44:59,600 Closed for like actual restoration. That's why I'm assuming that they're still in phase one 799 00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:04,600 It's like they can't have anybody come in probably because they're working with like the lead paint and asbestos 800 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,600 Professionals and then volunteers in between probably right cool 801 00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,600 Yeah 802 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:14,600 So nowadays it has a white flash every five seconds and you can also purchase a license for a 803 00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,600 Lighthouse and you can also purchase a license plate 804 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:23,600 I think it's just in Michigan where it has the lighthouse on it and it goes towards like the funds the extra funds goes to 805 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,600 That's cool lighthouse preservation 806 00:45:25,600 --> 00:45:30,600 Very cool. Their Facebook is a great way to keep up to date with everything to do with the lighthouse 807 00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:37,600 They post I saw every couple of days. Maybe it's more than that sometimes but they they really keep up to date on what's going on 808 00:45:37,600 --> 00:45:42,600 The lighthouse so that's also in our show notes. What is the group called that manages the lighthouse? 809 00:45:42,600 --> 00:45:46,600 Shol light historical preservation society. Thank you. I 810 00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,600 Know you said that no 811 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:55,600 White shul is also this is interesting a part of Glen Great Lakes evaporation network the same group that tracks data at 812 00:45:55,600 --> 00:45:58,600 Standard Rock with the superior watershed project 813 00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:04,600 So it's one of several lighthouses that collect environmental data out there make sense. Yeah unique point 814 00:46:04,600 --> 00:46:11,600 Yeah, more point last year. They sent out four bottles with notes in them and free nights like certificates 815 00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:14,600 Whoa, lighthouse into the lake from the lighthouse. They just threw them out 816 00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:20,600 And they showed up on shore and people like picked them up and got free nights at the lighthouse 817 00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:26,600 And you know what they sent that we don't bottles they sent about in coke boom. Boom. No way 818 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:33,600 No, boo. Yeah, that's a for those of you who don't know it's a rum that we we quite enjoy. It's very sweet 819 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:38,600 Very good. But yeah, it's got a nice flavor to it. It looks like a pirate bottle. It's got a cork top 820 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,600 Yes, it has like the skull not skull and crossbones but like the crossbones on it 821 00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:46,600 Which is why I'm sure they selected them is because it was it's a really cool bottle. That's so funny 822 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:49,600 But uh, I just saw something about it. I was like, oh, that's neat 823 00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,600 I wasn't gonna make a note about it and then I saw an article that had a picture of what the bottles looked like and I 824 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:59,600 Was like that's boo. There you go. Shout out to boom boo. And I think they may be doing it again this year as well 825 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:05,600 They did that last year and only one bottle never made it back to shore. It's still floating somewhere 826 00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,600 Yeah, just out there stuck in the permafrost 827 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:10,600 Yeah, right 828 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,600 Yeah, that's the story of white shul light house 829 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:21,600 Awesome. Really cool lighthouse. Yeah, I love the stripey's we love red. Maybe they're using what is it called? 830 00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:29,600 Teneemic. Teneemic. I would be surprised. Yeah, I don't I don't believe it's a cheap product. Yeah, right 831 00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:37,600 Nothing but the best for our lighthouses. Yeah, if we can afford it if we can when we can afford it. Yeah 832 00:47:37,600 --> 00:47:44,600 Very neat. Mm-hmm. Well, thank you very much. You're welcome. Thanks to all of our listeners for showing up 833 00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:51,600 We keep going strong and we're excited that you're listening and thank you to all of our new listeners for popping in just giving us a shot 834 00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:55,600 Appreciate you. Yeah, you can follow us on 835 00:47:55,600 --> 00:48:01,600 YouTube and Instagram at the lighthouse lowdown 836 00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:09,600 You can check out our website the lighthouse lowdown.com where you can listen to our episodes and also check out our YouTube videos 837 00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,600 And you can also leave us a review if you enjoyed this episode, please do we love to see them 838 00:48:13,600 --> 00:48:29,600 And we'll catch you next time. Oh