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Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps

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Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This

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is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. Known

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asshole and constant complainer and social preaching.

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Hypocrite Neil Young has canceled all his 2026

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tour dates. Most in the U .S. still proving.

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If you hate America so much, stay the fuck out

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of it. Bye -bye, male Felicia. This is Johnny

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Rohypnol. That was your music news. And remember,

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bar chords are bullshit. We are. There we go.

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All right. I lasted about 15 seconds. Okay. That's

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what she said. All right. Hey, next time, maybe

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we need to switch it and I'll do the drums and

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you do the music. We are. Cool. We can just trade

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off like that. Yeah. You want to practice real

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quick? We are the music. We are the music. I

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was trying to do a solo. I was going to say I'll

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have to practice that, but no, no, I'm not going

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to practice. It's got to be spontaneous. It sucked

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like the other version. Yeah, right. Good for

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us. The suckier the better. Yes. We're already

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a minute in, so we got our credit for a download

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if you listen to this part. Oh, they already

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hung up. Yeah, okay. Yeah, they already hung

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up. I've got some interesting stuff. I've got

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bullet points, but I've got press or pass. And

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that's bands that they all say they're going

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to put out another album. And we either say,

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yeah, press a button, yes, or we say pass, no.

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Yeah, sounds good. You got something you want

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to go into? I got some famous musical duos that

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broke up and why. Okay. I've got an article on

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the guitars of the former Soviet Union. I like

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that one a lot. Some pretty bizarre electric

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guitars. It's too bad you can't show the picture

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of them though. Yeah, I'll have to tell people

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to look these up. And then I started looking

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up guitar string manufacturers because there

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are only like about six in the U .S. And then...

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like 40 different brands will just buy their

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strings from these six makers and have it relabeled.

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They call it white label. Oh, yeah. To have someone

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else make it for you with just a white label,

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then you print the label. I couldn't really get

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what brands buy theirs from these big makers,

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but I did look up and see these big string manufacturers.

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It's interesting to see what else they own. They're

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not just string makers. They own a bunch of other

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stuff. Real quick, two douches at Mail .com.

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Who is better? Is it Phineas J. Valtar as the

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third? Is it Dash Riptide, Birds of Johnny, Roe

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Hypno, all music reporters on this show, and

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the douchebags? I like Dash Riptide really well.

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I do too, yeah. Yep, if you're too loud, if it's

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too loud, you probably have hearing damage, just

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like me. I love that. It's true. And actually,

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Johnny Rohypnol, bar chords are bullshit. Yeah,

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that's true. Oh, no, but how about Phineas J.

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Voltarez? He has one burning question. Do people

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really skip around the Maypole? Oh. Yeah. I almost

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want to go with Voltarez just because of that.

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Now, you do see these big -ass football players

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skipping off the field. Yes. I mean. These grown

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-ass men weighing 300 pounds and they're skipping

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like little kids on the schoolyard. Yes. As funny

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as hell to me. It is funny as hell. But I'm not

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going to go up and tell them they look like a

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sissy. No, no. It's like, that looks great. Keep

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it up. That's what I'm saying. You do you, man.

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Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, you do you. It's fine with

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me. Yep. Anyhow, vote. All right. And vote early

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and vote often. Yes, yes. Get all your dead relatives

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to vote. I was going to say, if you're a Democrat,

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get all the dead votes. Go to the cemetery and

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write down names. Yes. There you go. All right.

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What are we going to start off with? Let's start

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with duos that broke up. Oh, I like that. And

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then we'll go into press or pass. Yeah, I like

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that. Okay. Hall of Notes, pretty well known.

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You make my dreams come true. Yep. You have to

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say it just like that. You make my dreams come

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true. Yeah, you can't go, you make my dreams

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come true. No, that's not it. Yeah. You've got

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to say, you make them mine. Yeah, yeah. Yeah,

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that's it. Oh, okay, so Hall & Oates, they actually

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didn't exactly break up, but rather their partnership

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ended in a bitter legal battle. Oh, I remember

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that. Oates is also the descendant of Quaker

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Oates. Yes. Yeah, yeah, he's like the great...

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Great grandchild. Yes. Yeah. Yes. Yeah. And I

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think he still wears the breast pumps that they

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get the oat milk. He does. He does. Yes. Okay.

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That visual still fucking kills me. The Quaker

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Oats guy with a couple of breast pumps strapped

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to him and a smile on his face. Come and get

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it. Ding, ding. He's got a bell. Ding, ding,

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ding, ding. Oat milk ready. Okay. The legal battle

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started in late 2023 centered on John Oates.

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attempt to sell his share of their joint business

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entity, Whole Oats Enterprises, to Primary Wave,

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which Daryl Hall sued to block, citing a breach

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of partnership, which led to irreparable damage,

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with both confirming they wouldn't work together

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again. While they had issues before, the lawsuit

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over the sale finalized their split, with both

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moving on to solo careers and expressing no future

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performances together. Now, it seems weird to

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me that if I own half of something that I can't

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sell it to whoever I want. And then somehow the

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person who owns the other half can stop me. You

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see, I knew that they had a riff, but that was

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it? That was it. Now, built on top of that is

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John Oates did not like his role in the band.

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Which was decided for him that you're going to

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be the silent guy with a mustache that you never

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shave off. And you don't do interviews where

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you're just a silent, mysterious guy. And also

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all the rumors about him being gay and all that.

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Which I don't think he was, was he? I don't think

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so either. But yeah, he was told to just keep

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your mouth shut and play your part. Yeah, yeah.

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And cash your checks. I think he felt kind of

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betrayed. Yeah, yeah. Because he's like, I'm

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getting accused of all this stuff. And it's not

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anything against gays or nothing like that at

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all. It's just at the time, it put you in a different

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category. So he couldn't say anything about it.

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Like, hey, I'm not. Nothing against him, but

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I'm not. And he was also kind of dismissed as

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a creative member of the band. Even though his

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name was on a lot of the songwriting credits,

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people just thought, oh, well, they just put

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him on there because he's nothing. He's nobody.

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He's not important. I think that was the biggest

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problem right there is because he was discredited

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on everything. Yeah. It's just like, yeah, he's

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that other guy. Yeah. Yeah. I remember the band

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Lady Antebellum, they became Lady A. Yeah. It

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was two guys and a gal that were there in all

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the videos. And what I remember over and over

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was the... radio stations that would play it.

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And the guy kept saying, you know, I think it

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should just be that man and the woman that sing.

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That third guy, they should just cut him out.

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He's a distraction. And it turned out he's the

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main songwriter. Yeah. But the DJ in their visual

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perception is, ooh, he's a distraction. Get him

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out of there. I don't want him. I don't want

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to see him. He's not important. Well, yeah. And

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Wham! Wham! is another one. Exactly. Nobody knows

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what happened to the dark -haired guy. Yeah.

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In Lady Antebellum, you would have never guessed

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that either. That's not anything you heard or

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ever saw. But it figures the DJs would look at

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the singers and go, oh, they're the most important

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ones. They're just singing what somebody wrote

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for them to sing. Exactly, Milli Vanilli style.

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Well, actually, they didn't sing. Someone like

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Al Pacino is a great actor, but he didn't write

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his own lines. Someone else wrote those lines.

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Yeah. Yep. It's the same thing with these lead

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singers. All right. A little secret there that

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we can't tell you until next week. We have a

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secret. Yep. See, if you were here live while

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we're doing this, you would know it. True. It's

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a good reason to show up when we're recording

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down here. Yeah, even though I'm not posting.

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So you have to just know. Yep. Yeah. Hey, we're

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pretty regular down here. It should be easy to

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figure out. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Let's

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see. Oh, our next couple. Our next duo is Simon

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and Garfunkel. They had a number of hits. They

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were childhood friends from Queens, New York.

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They recorded their first song under the band

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name Tom and Jerry. Really? Yeah. They were Tom

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and Jerry. Just like the mouse and cat cartoon.

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I find that funny as hell. Isn't that weird?

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Which one was Tom and which one was Jerry? I

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don't know. I'm guessing Paul Simon is probably

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the mouse because he's small. I want the mother

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to come out and hit him with a broom while they're

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singing. Thomas, you get your ass in line, son.

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Okay, that track called Hey Schoolgirl was a

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mild hit, and as its writer, Simon was asked

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if he could come up with more songs. Simon proceeded

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to not only write but also record more music,

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all without his partner's knowledge. And an upset

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Garfunkel quit the band. Yeah, yeah, and then

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he became Paul Simon, right? No, actually a few

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years later, amid New York's burgeoning folk

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music scene, the two reunited and started performing

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under the name Simon and Garfunkel. I didn't

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know that. So they got together, recorded, and

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broke up under Tom and Jerry. And then became

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Simon and Garfunkel. And then a couple years

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later became Simon and Garfunkel. Oh, okay, okay,

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I had it backwards, sorry. Forget everything

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I just said. Okay. The pair released a series

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of five albums between 1964 and 1970, Wednesday

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Morning, 3 a .m., Sounds of Silence, Parsley

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Sage Rosemary in Time, Bookends, and Bridge Over

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Troubled Water, which I didn't realize was their

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last album together. I didn't either, but man,

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you read that body of work. Oh my gosh, man.

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Sounds of Silence is one of the, what would you

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call it, realistic, poignant... Yeah, instead

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of being like a folky protest song, it's one

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that has a real deep emotional impact. Yeah,

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like someone that really has issues and really

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can't get through them. And then was it Five

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Finger Death Punks that redid it so well? Disturbed

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did it as well. Oh, it was Disturbed. Yeah, it

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was Disturbed, not Five Finger. Jeff Tate did

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a remake of Parsley, Sage, Rosemary, and Thyme.

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Oh, he did? Yeah. I think it's Are You Going

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to Scarborough Fair? See, I think he'd do good

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at it. He's such a good singer. It was a really

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good version of that. But by the time of the

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final album, Bridge Over Troubled Water, things

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were once again strained. This time it was Paul

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Simon who took issue with Garfunkel's pursuit

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of a movie career. Garfunkel had roles in 1970's

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Catch -22 and 1971's controversial Colonel Knowledge.

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Several years later, Simon took an acting role

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in the Best Picture winner Annie Hall. So they

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both did. The duo played two concerts at their

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hometown Forest Hills Stadium in 1970, then went

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their separate ways. After a reunion concert

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in the 2010s, somewhere around 2015, Garfunkel

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said, that's it, I'm done with it, never perform

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together again, I'm over it. And he's pretty

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much stuck by that since. Paul Simon is still

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out there performing, but most people say that

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he just does not have the voice left. I've heard

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that. Yeah, he was on a list that I read, and

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I forgot to download, and I can't find it again.

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A list of performers that are the worst, that

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cannot do anything. I mean, David Lee Roth, you

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know, Rod Stewart was one of them. Yeah. Frankie

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Valli. Frankie Valli, yeah. You did that last

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week, but I think my phone heard me or heard

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you. And it gave me a list, and I can't find

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it. But there were a lot of names on there I'd

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forgotten. But go ahead. Okay, next up we have

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the Everly brothers, Don and Phil. Their daughter,

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Everly. Which daughter married Axel Rose? I can't

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remember which Everly. I can't either. Oh, well,

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it doesn't matter. It's just, yeah. Initially,

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he called her Beverly Everly, but she refused

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to take that name. Yeah, I don't blame her. No,

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not Beverly. Okay, they fell out due to years

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of built -up tension and drug addiction, especially

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Don's. Yep. Professional disagreements with their

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manager. And actually, I think it was Don Everly's

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daughter. I think so, yeah. And the pressures

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of constant touring culminating in a famously

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public onstage breakup in 1973 when Phil smashed

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his guitar and walked off after Don performed

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Clearly Drunk. leading to a decade -long separation

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before they reunited in 1983. No wonder Erin

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Everly married Axel. That's what she's used to.

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Yep. Here's one from way back. Sonny and Cher.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, that was bitter. That

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was. Now, Cher is still around. She's another

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one of those who... needs to retire and quit

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singing because she can't sing anymore. Yeah,

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she was up on the list. Yeah. Sonny scrambled

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his brains. He did. Skin. Yeah. Let's see. Salvatore

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Bono, when he first met Cheryl Sarkeesian in

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the summer, in the autumn of 1962, he was working

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for the legendary music producer Phil Spector.

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Yeah. Phil Spector and his wall of sound. Yep.

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Also turned out to be quite the scumbag. Scumbag

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as well. He murdered somebody and went to prison.

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Yep. The two started a romantic relationship

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and simultaneously began working together as

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backup singers on several Spector -produced hits,

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notably Darlene Love's Be My Baby. Really? Be

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my little baby. Yeah. Yeah. Ronnie and the Ronettes.

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did a remake of that. Ronnie and the Ronettes.

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I think I remember that, yeah. Ronnie was Ronnie

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Spector. It was Phil Spector's child bride. Oh!

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He married her so he controlled her career. Yeah.

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And he basically treated her as his personal

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property. Is he still alive in prison? I don't

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think so. I don't think so. I think he died in

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prison. Yeah, I think he did. And he needed to.

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The world's not... Not missing a beat. Murder

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wasn't the only thing he'd done. No. He was disgusting.

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He was horribly abusive to everybody. He'd pull

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guns on people in the studio and threaten to

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shoot them if they didn't record it right. Yeah.

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He was a fucked up individual. He was. It was

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all the coke. Yeah, yes. Okay, efforts to launch

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a music career of their own stumbled initially

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under the monikers Caesar and Cleo. What a name.

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Yeah, Caesar and Cleo. Yeah, not so good. Imagine

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a little short Sonny Bono calling himself Caesar.

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Yeah. No. 1965 saw the release of their single.

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You got a great salad. Yeah, that's true. 1965

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they released the single I Got You Babe from

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the duo now named Sonny and Cher and everything

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took off. Groundhog Day for you youngsters. Yes.

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Yeah, the movie. The duo tried multiple times

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to get a movie career off the ground, including

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the 1967 flop Good Times, but to no avail. One

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of their intended films, Speedway, even wound

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up booting Sonny and Cher in favor of Nancy,

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Sinatra, and Elvis. So it was their movie project

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that they got fired from it. That's pretty bad.

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Cher recovered nicely. She did. Well, actually,

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Bono went into politics. He did. Yeah, and he

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did good, too. So, anyhow. In 1971, Sonny and

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Cher did manage to get a successful TV variety

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show, which I remember watching. Yeah. It was

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widely popular amongst the hippies and hipsters.

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They loved it. Typically, at that point, a variety

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show would start with a little stand -up routine

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between the two. And then they'd have skits.

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Yes. And then they would have musical performances.

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And if you watch it nowadays, it is not funny

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at all. The humor back then is not the humor

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nowadays. As I recall, all of the humor centered

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around Cher making fun of Sonny. Criticizing

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him, insulting him. rolling her eyes, and he

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played this pathetic puppy dog always trying

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to win her affection. Yeah, yes. She was constantly

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running him down and insulting him. I remember

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at the time thinking, this is stupid, I don't

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like this. But everyone else seemed to enjoy

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it. Oh, yeah. And the humor was just so not fun.

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Oh, God, it was so corny. Even back then, it

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was jokes that had been around for 20, 30, 40

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years and everyone was sick of. Wasn't it like

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Ed Sullivan that used to go, we got a really

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big show tonight, a really big shoe, and everyone

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would be like, ah! He said shoe instead of show.

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Oh, that's so funny. It's like, no it isn't.

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I remember when it used to be just like screamingly

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funny to show a fat man and a skinny man standing

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together. Yes. That was funny. Okay, I still

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giggle. Laurel and Hardy. Yes. Stan Laurel was

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the skinny guy, and Oliver Hardy was the big

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fat guy. They used to order around the skinny

00:18:49.829 --> 00:18:52.349
guy, remember? And just the visual of the two

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together used to crack people up. Nowadays, it's

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like, oh, I'm supposed to laugh at that? Huh?

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Oh, hang on, hang on. That guy's overweight.

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We love him more. Yes. Yes. Come on, guys. Come

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on. That skinny guy's an asshole. Go ahead. Okay,

00:19:09.319 --> 00:19:12.299
so they had the Sunday and Cher show, but creative

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tensions between the two, particularly Bono's,

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continued to need control over every aspect of

00:19:18.359 --> 00:19:22.519
the output. He was a micromanager. It coalesced

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with personal strife. By the show's third season,

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the couple filed for divorce. And they continued

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the show, even through the divorce. And I remember

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Cher bringing out their, who was then their daughter,

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Chastity. He's now Chaz. Chaz, yeah. Hey there,

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Slap Nets. It's time for the Creeps Music News.

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Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This is Johnny

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Rohypnol with your music news. Blackie Lawless

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founder, frontman, and owner of the rock band

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Wasp. will not be touring this year or even making

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new music. He will instead be finishing up his

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autobiography and releasing the book later this

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year. This is Johnny Rohypnol. That was your

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music news. And remember, bar chords are bullshit.

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And then they both, let's see, Bono went into

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politics. He served as the U .S. Representative

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for California's 44th District from 1995 until

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his death. And he was Republican, too, wasn't

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he? Yeah, which is weird because you don't see

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that anymore. Yeah, no. Entertainers go to Democrat

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side, definitely. Yes, and also California. Yeah.

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I remember they each had their own show after

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they split up. Cher's show took off. Sonny's

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show was basically the exact same as the Sonny

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and Cher show, only with a different woman. Yeah.

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And she was doing exactly the same thing, running

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him down, insulting him, treating him like an

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idiot child. But apparently the audience thought,

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okay, if it's your wife doing that, it's funny.

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If it's just some random chick doing it, it's

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not funny. And it bombed. But he was skiing.

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and skied right into a support pole for the ski

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lift. Smack. It was like head -on in a truck

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on the highway kind of thing. It was not a good

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scene. Not a good scene. Reportedly, his brains

00:21:36.329 --> 00:21:40.730
were everywhere. Yeah. Now, I do remember a different

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incident. This came up in the yearly Darwin Awards.

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That's for people who are so stupid that they

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killed themselves with their own stupidity. This

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was a guy who went and tore the foam insulation

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off of the ski lift support pole to use as a

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sled. And he went up the hill and he slid down

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on it and slid into the pole right at the spot

00:22:02.710 --> 00:22:04.589
where he pulled the insulation off and killed

00:22:04.589 --> 00:22:11.930
him. Oh. I thought that was just so fucking funny.

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That's a Darwin Award right there. That guy deserved

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it. He's just like, the ski pole's like. All

00:22:17.279 --> 00:22:19.539
right, you peel that shit off me, you're coming

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right back here, man. That just made me laugh.

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That made me smile. Ike and Tina Turner. Oh,

00:22:27.700 --> 00:22:30.740
yeah. Okay, where are you going to start on that

00:22:30.740 --> 00:22:33.559
one? Let's see. For more than 15 years, from

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1960 to 1976, Ike and Tina Turner electrified

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the music scene. Their explosive performance

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in the landmark 1964 music film The T .A .M .I.

00:22:44.299 --> 00:22:48.069
Show, Tammy Show. Oh, yeah. led to the duo touring

00:22:48.069 --> 00:22:50.970
with the Rolling Stones. And I remember the Rolling

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Stones would come out and watch Ike and Tina

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Turner every night and think, how the hell did

00:22:56.390 --> 00:22:58.509
we get so lucky to get them opening for us? And

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one of these days people are going to figure

00:22:59.769 --> 00:23:03.710
out they're better than us. The Stones were very

00:23:03.710 --> 00:23:07.829
impressed with Ike and Tina. Delighting audiences

00:23:07.829 --> 00:23:10.630
with their 66th single, River Deep Mountain High,

00:23:10.829 --> 00:23:12.849
which was a hit in Europe at the time but not

00:23:12.849 --> 00:23:15.500
yet in the United States. And then they turned

00:23:15.500 --> 00:23:17.880
the bluesy Creedence Clearwater revival song

00:23:17.880 --> 00:23:20.720
Proud Mary into a funk -infused high -energy

00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:22.859
song, which earned the married couple a Grammy

00:23:22.859 --> 00:23:25.420
Award. Now, this is another instance where the

00:23:25.420 --> 00:23:28.019
dude married the woman because she was the talent

00:23:28.019 --> 00:23:31.079
and he wanted to control her. Yeah. And it also

00:23:31.079 --> 00:23:33.859
kind of clears up, so many people think that

00:23:33.859 --> 00:23:37.049
Proud Mary was Ike and Tina first. and that Creedence

00:23:37.049 --> 00:23:39.970
Clearwater redid it? Opposite way. Opposite way.

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Opposite way. And that's funny you said that

00:23:42.250 --> 00:23:46.029
because I thought it like that too. Yep. Let's

00:23:46.029 --> 00:23:48.670
see. You can't really talk about this musical

00:23:48.670 --> 00:23:51.250
duo without mentioning the years of abuse Tina

00:23:51.250 --> 00:23:54.130
suffered at Ike's hand. As she would outline

00:23:54.130 --> 00:23:57.630
in her 1986 autobiography, I, Tina, behind the

00:23:57.630 --> 00:23:59.809
scenes of the musical phenomenon was prolonged

00:23:59.809 --> 00:24:02.069
ordeal of physical, sexual, and psychological

00:24:02.069 --> 00:24:06.430
abuse. Uh -huh. It came to a head on July 1st,

00:24:06.450 --> 00:24:09.569
1976, when Tina, her face bruised and bleeding,

00:24:09.769 --> 00:24:11.910
fled from the hotel room she was sharing with

00:24:11.910 --> 00:24:14.089
Ike, fearing for the safety of herself and their

00:24:14.089 --> 00:24:19.730
children. She mentioned in an interview that

00:24:19.730 --> 00:24:23.789
she was in the room, and Ike was there too, and

00:24:23.789 --> 00:24:26.769
she waited for him to fall asleep, and waited

00:24:26.769 --> 00:24:28.710
for his breathing to reach that point where he

00:24:28.710 --> 00:24:31.150
was just really, really asleep. And then she

00:24:31.150 --> 00:24:33.170
snuck out of the room, and as soon as she got

00:24:33.170 --> 00:24:36.420
out, She had to cross a multi -lane highway,

00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:40.500
and she couldn't really see the cars coming because

00:24:40.500 --> 00:24:42.500
it was night, so she just said a quick prayer,

00:24:42.700 --> 00:24:45.279
hoped for the best, and just ran across the highway

00:24:45.279 --> 00:24:48.839
without looking and managed to not get hit. Wow,

00:24:49.019 --> 00:24:52.420
and that says something, right? Yeah. That says

00:24:52.420 --> 00:24:55.099
everything. She would rather run across a highway

00:24:55.099 --> 00:25:00.019
blind than stay with Ike. Yeah. Wow. She filed

00:25:00.019 --> 00:25:02.920
for divorce on July 27. and went on to have a

00:25:02.920 --> 00:25:05.680
rich solo career in music and on film. Ike, in

00:25:05.680 --> 00:25:08.059
the depths of addiction, spent 18 months in prison

00:25:08.059 --> 00:25:10.740
on drug chargers and died of an overdose in 2007.

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Yep, no big deal. No, I don't think people really

00:25:16.039 --> 00:25:20.700
bother. Piece of garbage. Now, he's not... People

00:25:20.700 --> 00:25:25.579
sometimes confuse the actor who played Chef on

00:25:25.579 --> 00:25:28.480
South Park. Oh, yeah, Isaac Hayes. Isaac Hayes.

00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:30.839
Some people think that was Ike Turner. Totally

00:25:30.839 --> 00:25:32.380
different person. Completely different person.

00:25:32.480 --> 00:25:34.700
Completely different, yeah. Isaac Hayes was a

00:25:34.700 --> 00:25:39.640
decent guy. Yeah. And he was a chef. Yeah, you

00:25:39.640 --> 00:25:43.200
know, give me some sweet loving. All the stuff

00:25:43.200 --> 00:25:45.980
he said, I did great. Yeah, I don't think the

00:25:45.980 --> 00:25:47.660
guys from South Park would have bothered with

00:25:47.660 --> 00:25:49.460
Ike, even if he was around. Girl, what's wrong

00:25:49.460 --> 00:25:51.579
with you? I just gave you sweet loving ten minutes

00:25:51.579 --> 00:25:57.720
ago. Anyhow, go ahead. All right, Captain and

00:25:57.720 --> 00:26:00.680
Tennille. Oh, yeah. Love Will Keep Us Together,

00:26:00.960 --> 00:26:03.799
Muskrat Love, which actually was done by the

00:26:03.799 --> 00:26:06.400
band America at first. Oh, yeah. Muskrat Love

00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.420
was? Muskrat Love was. Isn't that weird? Yeah,

00:26:08.460 --> 00:26:10.720
it is. But Love Will Keep Us Together is actually

00:26:10.720 --> 00:26:12.920
a really good song. Yeah, I liked it. That was

00:26:12.920 --> 00:26:15.480
real good pop. It was a really good piano on

00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:17.880
it, just a little poppy little ditty that was

00:26:17.880 --> 00:26:20.279
really good. Yeah, it was. It was a great sing

00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:23.559
-along song, too. Yeah, it was. Okay, Captain

00:26:23.559 --> 00:26:25.779
and Tennille, which is Daryl Dragon and Tony

00:26:25.779 --> 00:26:29.740
Tennille, divorced in 2014 after nearly 40 years

00:26:29.740 --> 00:26:32.640
of marriage due to Tony Tennille's long -standing

00:26:32.640 --> 00:26:35.839
feelings of loneliness and lack of intimacy stemming

00:26:35.839 --> 00:26:38.640
from Daryl's emotional distance and inability

00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:41.559
to show affection. Tony Tennille was a female

00:26:41.559 --> 00:26:43.779
in case anyone's knowing. Yeah. Yeah, because

00:26:43.779 --> 00:26:46.180
they're both could -be -male names. Yeah, yeah.

00:26:47.299 --> 00:26:49.779
Despite their success in musical Shark Park's

00:26:49.779 --> 00:26:52.779
partnership, Tennille revealed in her memoir

00:26:52.779 --> 00:26:55.339
that their marriage was loveless and that Dragon,

00:26:55.539 --> 00:26:57.480
who had grown up in a very difficult family,

00:26:57.700 --> 00:27:00.539
was emotionally unavailable, often sleeping in

00:27:00.539 --> 00:27:02.819
separate rooms, leading her to finally end the

00:27:02.819 --> 00:27:05.819
marriage despite the public perception of their...

00:27:05.819 --> 00:27:08.220
Their happiness. Perfect happiness and perfect...

00:27:08.220 --> 00:27:12.940
Hey, how you doing? No, no. Oh, right on. You

00:27:12.940 --> 00:27:15.460
gonna play? No, I just care just to stop the

00:27:15.460 --> 00:27:19.460
pretty girl. Oh, yeah. Good on you. That was

00:27:19.460 --> 00:27:27.859
awesome. I love that. I remember at the time

00:27:27.859 --> 00:27:30.440
when Love Will Keep Us Together came out, I thought

00:27:30.440 --> 00:27:34.359
Tony Tennille was pretty darn cute. She kind

00:27:34.359 --> 00:27:39.279
of looked like a blonde Pat Benatar in a way.

00:27:39.819 --> 00:27:44.299
They had kind of similar features. The Leuven

00:27:44.299 --> 00:27:52.289
Brothers. Brothers Ira. And Charlie, Ira was

00:27:52.289 --> 00:27:57.369
born in April of 24, and Charlie in July of 27.

00:27:57.690 --> 00:28:01.210
That was quite a while ago. Their birth name

00:28:01.210 --> 00:28:03.450
was Loudermilk, but they changed it to Louvin,

00:28:03.529 --> 00:28:06.230
L -O -U -V -I -N. I think that's a good idea.

00:28:06.410 --> 00:28:10.890
Yeah. But they are... Oh, there he is. Yeah.

00:28:11.430 --> 00:28:14.809
Now, there is a musician whose last name is Loudermilk,

00:28:14.829 --> 00:28:21.140
and they're like cousins. Okay. In the 1940s,

00:28:21.140 --> 00:28:23.440
they began their career in gospel music. They

00:28:23.440 --> 00:28:25.980
grew up listening to and singing shape note music,

00:28:26.240 --> 00:28:31.319
which is a traditional American 18th and 19th

00:28:31.319 --> 00:28:35.160
century style of writing music for vocal only.

00:28:35.319 --> 00:28:39.859
And instead of standard notation with the notes,

00:28:39.980 --> 00:28:43.930
it uses geometric shapes. Oh, okay. Like a triangle,

00:28:44.049 --> 00:28:47.869
circle, square, and diamond to represent notes

00:28:47.869 --> 00:28:50.789
of the scale. Yeah. Which makes sight reading

00:28:50.789 --> 00:28:53.730
a lot easier. Sometimes it's called sacred harp

00:28:53.730 --> 00:28:59.069
type of music. Yeah. But that influenced the

00:28:59.069 --> 00:29:01.410
rest of their musical career. Their first foray

00:29:01.410 --> 00:29:04.009
into secular music was the minor hit The Get

00:29:04.009 --> 00:29:06.289
Acquainted Waltz, recorded with Chet Atkins.

00:29:06.529 --> 00:29:09.029
Uh -huh. Their other hits included Cash on the

00:29:09.029 --> 00:29:11.650
Barrelhead and When I Stopped Dreaming. They

00:29:11.650 --> 00:29:14.309
joined the Grand Old Opry in 1955 and stayed

00:29:14.309 --> 00:29:18.710
there until breaking up in 1963. Songs were heavily

00:29:18.710 --> 00:29:21.410
influenced by their Baptist faith and warned

00:29:21.410 --> 00:29:24.609
against sin. Nevertheless, Iris Leuven was notorious

00:29:24.609 --> 00:29:27.470
for his drinking, womanizing, and volcanic temper.

00:29:27.690 --> 00:29:30.789
Doesn't that figure. He was married four times.

00:29:30.950 --> 00:29:33.789
Oh, boy. His third wife, Faye, shot him four

00:29:33.789 --> 00:29:36.089
times in the chest and twice in the hand after

00:29:36.089 --> 00:29:38.470
he allegedly tried to strangle her with a telephone

00:29:38.470 --> 00:29:42.660
cord. Oh. Ah. Although seriously injured, he

00:29:42.660 --> 00:29:45.519
survived. When performing and drinking, Ira would

00:29:45.519 --> 00:29:48.039
sometimes become angry enough on stage to smash

00:29:48.039 --> 00:29:51.000
his mandolin when he was unable to tune it and,

00:29:51.079 --> 00:29:56.539
when sober, glue it back together. So Ira was

00:29:56.539 --> 00:29:59.259
mandolin and Charlie was guitar. Guitar, okay.

00:30:00.900 --> 00:30:03.400
I love that. Smash it and then fucking glue it

00:30:03.400 --> 00:30:08.410
back together. Dammit, why'd I do this? His style

00:30:08.410 --> 00:30:10.529
was heavily influenced by Bill Monroe and his

00:30:10.529 --> 00:30:13.609
brother Charlie Monroe, who had a tempestuous

00:30:13.609 --> 00:30:15.869
relationship with Ira, considered him one of

00:30:15.869 --> 00:30:19.150
the top mandolin players in Nashville. In his

00:30:19.150 --> 00:30:20.890
New York Times review of Charlie's biography

00:30:20.890 --> 00:30:24.089
called Satan is Real, which was one of their

00:30:24.089 --> 00:30:27.789
album titles, and they weren't saying that to

00:30:27.789 --> 00:30:30.210
be flip or funny. They were saying, yeah, Satan's

00:30:30.210 --> 00:30:32.930
real. Everyone get real about it. He's really

00:30:32.930 --> 00:30:59.500
happy. Alex Abramovich said, Even the most careful

00:30:59.500 --> 00:31:02.039
listeners would lose track of which man was carrying

00:31:02.039 --> 00:31:04.339
the lead and singing which part. That's pretty

00:31:04.339 --> 00:31:07.019
damn cool. Yeah. So this was more than close

00:31:07.019 --> 00:31:09.519
harmony singing. Each instance was an act of

00:31:09.519 --> 00:31:12.660
transubstantiation, which is a religious term,

00:31:12.700 --> 00:31:15.059
but the correct musical term would be voice exchange.

00:31:15.940 --> 00:31:19.059
But they would just trade parts, just in the

00:31:19.059 --> 00:31:21.720
middle, without even a glance or a look. It was

00:31:21.720 --> 00:31:23.480
just somehow they knew, okay, we're still helping.

00:31:23.559 --> 00:31:25.299
That is so talented. Isn't it? Yeah, that's,

00:31:25.299 --> 00:31:29.480
yeah, okay. In 1963, fed up with Ira's drinking

00:31:29.480 --> 00:31:31.480
and abusive behavior, Charlie started a solo

00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:35.460
career, and Ira also went on his own. Ira died

00:31:35.460 --> 00:31:38.859
in June 20, 1965, two years later, at the age

00:31:38.859 --> 00:31:42.099
of 41. His fourth wife, Ann Young, and he were

00:31:42.099 --> 00:31:48.400
on the way home from performance in Kansas City

00:31:48.400 --> 00:31:51.359
when they came to a section of construction on

00:31:51.359 --> 00:31:53.700
Highway 70 outside of Williamsburg, Missouri.

00:31:54.829 --> 00:31:58.750
I -70 was still under construction. Wow. Traffic

00:31:58.750 --> 00:32:01.549
had been reduced down to one lane. A drunken

00:32:01.549 --> 00:32:03.970
driver struck their car head -on, killing both

00:32:03.970 --> 00:32:06.690
Ira and his wife. Oh, wow. I didn't know that.

00:32:06.730 --> 00:32:09.849
So how odd that he was the drinker and partier,

00:32:09.890 --> 00:32:13.970
yet some other drunk driver killed him. That's

00:32:13.970 --> 00:32:16.509
the definition of irony. Isn't it? If anyone

00:32:16.509 --> 00:32:20.650
doesn't know. Wow. So that's my famous duos that

00:32:20.650 --> 00:32:24.210
broke up. Okay. Want to do the press and pass?

00:32:24.759 --> 00:32:27.980
Yes. Okay. So all these bands that I'm talking

00:32:27.980 --> 00:32:30.880
about, they all said just one day, they all go,

00:32:30.940 --> 00:32:33.740
we're coming out with new music. No. Okay. But

00:32:33.740 --> 00:32:36.279
we have a press or pass button. It's like send

00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.299
it through or no thank you. Yeah. Now the bands

00:32:39.299 --> 00:32:41.259
are going to say, we got it determined. Yeah,

00:32:41.319 --> 00:32:43.259
we want to hear it or no, you don't need to do

00:32:43.259 --> 00:32:46.019
it. Yeah. It also works because press was what

00:32:46.019 --> 00:32:48.339
they do to vinyl. Exactly. They press the vinyl.

00:32:48.400 --> 00:32:51.539
Yes. Press or pass. Yep. I like that. I do too.

00:32:53.879 --> 00:32:58.359
Motley Crue. Pass. They got nothing to offer

00:32:58.359 --> 00:33:02.920
them, so. No. They kind of showed everyone when

00:33:02.920 --> 00:33:05.160
they had AI write their songs for them and they

00:33:05.160 --> 00:33:08.000
pretended that they didn't. I know. That was

00:33:08.000 --> 00:33:09.920
the worst. You've told us that you have nothing

00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:11.920
left in the tank, and you're trying to claim

00:33:11.920 --> 00:33:14.880
AI songs as your own creation. I think that's

00:33:14.880 --> 00:33:17.019
why they wanted John 5 so bad. They thought he

00:33:17.019 --> 00:33:18.720
was going to breathe life into the band, and

00:33:18.720 --> 00:33:20.400
I don't think he did. I think he's got nothing

00:33:20.400 --> 00:33:23.579
for them. Creatively, they're bankrupt. Yes,

00:33:23.599 --> 00:33:26.680
and they have been. Even with Mick Mars, if he

00:33:26.680 --> 00:33:28.900
was still playing music with them, it'd still

00:33:28.900 --> 00:33:30.900
be the same. They just can't do it anymore. They

00:33:30.900 --> 00:33:33.440
lost it. Yeah, I really think so. Really, after

00:33:33.440 --> 00:33:36.809
the original breakup, Them and Vince, that was

00:33:36.809 --> 00:33:38.890
it. They really have not come out with great

00:33:38.890 --> 00:33:40.849
music since. This is true. Except for the one

00:33:40.849 --> 00:33:42.950
with John Carabi. He wrote a lot of that album.

00:33:43.069 --> 00:33:46.789
Yeah, yeah. I think they should firmly get on

00:33:46.789 --> 00:33:50.029
board with the nostalgia circuit and just try

00:33:50.029 --> 00:33:53.410
to pretend to be their glory days and forget

00:33:53.410 --> 00:33:55.730
about the new music. Yeah, I think they should

00:33:55.730 --> 00:33:57.950
too. And also, I mean, aren't they supposed to

00:33:57.950 --> 00:34:01.210
be retired from touring? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They

00:34:01.210 --> 00:34:03.990
had at least two final tours. Maybe three. Maybe

00:34:03.990 --> 00:34:06.950
three, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, so no thank you. Yeah,

00:34:06.950 --> 00:34:12.130
pass. Yeah. Okay, the next one. This is with

00:34:12.130 --> 00:34:14.150
the replacement singer, and he's pretty good,

00:34:14.190 --> 00:34:16.030
whatever his name is. Nobody knows his name,

00:34:16.070 --> 00:34:17.969
but they're like, he's not bad. Okay. Linkin

00:34:17.969 --> 00:34:22.139
Park. I wouldn't mind it myself. I'd say press.

00:34:22.400 --> 00:34:24.679
I would say press also. Yeah. I think they have

00:34:24.679 --> 00:34:26.719
a lot left in the tank. I mean, once his name

00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:28.880
killed himself, so it kind of fizzled it out.

00:34:28.980 --> 00:34:33.820
Yeah, yeah. That does set up a situation where

00:34:33.820 --> 00:34:37.079
the band has a lot more to say. Yeah. And we're

00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:39.119
ready to quit. We're ready to stop. It's just

00:34:39.119 --> 00:34:42.500
something that happened to them. Well, I'll put

00:34:42.500 --> 00:34:44.780
it to Alice in Chains, which is pretty much Jerry

00:34:44.780 --> 00:34:46.679
Can't Trail now, which it probably should have

00:34:46.679 --> 00:34:50.820
been after. They do have some good music. Yeah.

00:34:50.920 --> 00:34:53.559
It'll never be as popular as it once was, and

00:34:53.559 --> 00:34:55.340
the same way with Linkin Park. It'll never have

00:34:55.340 --> 00:34:57.719
that original popularity, but I would like to

00:34:57.719 --> 00:35:00.579
hear it. Yeah, I would too. Yeah. It'll also

00:35:00.579 --> 00:35:05.320
be a reason to tour. So, okay. How about this

00:35:05.320 --> 00:35:08.780
one? Queen with Adam Lambert, but actually it's

00:35:08.780 --> 00:35:11.380
two members of Queen with Adam Lambert. Right,

00:35:11.380 --> 00:35:13.019
because the bass player doesn't go. Yeah, yeah.

00:35:14.699 --> 00:35:18.039
So it's Brian May and... Roger Taylor. Roger

00:35:18.039 --> 00:35:23.239
Taylor, yeah. Yeah, I get... Roger Taylor is

00:35:23.239 --> 00:35:25.960
the drummer for Queen. Roger Earl is the drummer

00:35:25.960 --> 00:35:29.199
for Foghat. Yes, yeah. They're both Rogers. Yep.

00:35:30.019 --> 00:35:32.539
One's an Earl, one's a Taylor. Yeah, John Deacon

00:35:32.539 --> 00:35:36.130
was a bassist. Uh -huh. And he was one that I

00:35:36.130 --> 00:35:37.730
would like to hear some music from because he

00:35:37.730 --> 00:35:39.949
had a great voice. Yeah, he did. And he wrote

00:35:39.949 --> 00:35:41.469
some music, and I thought he would have been

00:35:41.469 --> 00:35:45.469
really good. I do enjoy Brian Mays had some solo

00:35:45.469 --> 00:35:48.429
stuff, and it's not bad. Yeah. But Queen with

00:35:48.429 --> 00:35:50.909
Adam Lambert, I'm going to pass. Yeah, I'm going

00:35:50.909 --> 00:35:54.050
to pass. Just because I just think it's a hell

00:35:54.050 --> 00:35:59.179
of a legacy to live up to. If they took and they

00:35:59.179 --> 00:36:01.820
put Brian May with Adam Lambert alone or something

00:36:01.820 --> 00:36:03.639
and called it something else, I'd be fine with

00:36:03.639 --> 00:36:06.059
it. Yeah. And he could even sound like Queen

00:36:06.059 --> 00:36:07.840
and I'd be fine with it. But to call it Queen

00:36:07.840 --> 00:36:11.099
with someone other than Freddie just doesn't

00:36:11.099 --> 00:36:17.039
seem legitimate. No. No. So I'm saying no. How

00:36:17.039 --> 00:36:23.519
about ACDC? They have put out good music. Yeah.

00:36:24.519 --> 00:36:26.599
That's tough because, you know, in a way I'd

00:36:26.599 --> 00:36:28.699
like to hear more, but on the other hand, it's

00:36:28.699 --> 00:36:30.960
just kind of the same stuff. Brian Johnson's

00:36:30.960 --> 00:36:33.260
voice is horrible anymore. Nobody's mentioning

00:36:33.260 --> 00:36:38.079
that. Yeah. Yeah, he is really done vocally.

00:36:38.300 --> 00:36:41.420
Yeah, and he never was. I mean, he had his niche.

00:36:41.579 --> 00:36:44.119
Yeah. But he wasn't overly talented. I mean,

00:36:44.139 --> 00:36:46.300
when he was in Geordie, he would actually sing

00:36:46.300 --> 00:36:48.719
like a normal singer, and it was decent. They

00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:50.760
didn't even want that. No, they wanted the shriek

00:36:50.760 --> 00:36:52.679
and the screech. And there's the only thing,

00:36:52.760 --> 00:36:55.280
honestly, you couldn't replace Bon Scott. Yeah.

00:36:55.480 --> 00:36:58.699
But you could do something unique like that.

00:36:58.820 --> 00:37:00.940
Yeah. And they did. It was brilliant to bring

00:37:00.940 --> 00:37:04.099
him in. Yeah. They did want Mark Staracci of

00:37:04.099 --> 00:37:07.159
Crocus. Oh, yeah. But he turned him down. He

00:37:07.159 --> 00:37:09.260
said, no, my man Crocus is going to be much bigger

00:37:09.260 --> 00:37:14.449
than you guys. Oops. That's when you do both,

00:37:14.510 --> 00:37:16.349
dude. You do both. You do both. You don't give

00:37:16.349 --> 00:37:18.570
up on one. You do both. Yeah, you go, all right,

00:37:18.590 --> 00:37:20.869
I'll come over there. I actually, I wanted Axl

00:37:20.869 --> 00:37:24.289
Rose to do both. Yeah. Yeah. That would have

00:37:24.289 --> 00:37:26.150
been cool. Yeah, and at the time, they weren't

00:37:26.150 --> 00:37:28.590
really Guns N' Roses anyhow. It was Axl with

00:37:28.590 --> 00:37:31.630
a bunch of other people. Yeah. Actually, who

00:37:31.630 --> 00:37:34.230
I think would be a great lead vocalist for ACDC

00:37:34.230 --> 00:37:37.719
would be William Shatner. Yes. I mean, check

00:37:37.719 --> 00:37:40.099
out some of his spoken language recordings where

00:37:40.099 --> 00:37:42.400
he talks his way through songs. I can see it.

00:37:42.400 --> 00:37:48.079
It's hilarious as hell. I am. I am. Back in black.

00:37:49.840 --> 00:37:55.460
Hit the sack. Better watch out because I'm coming

00:37:55.460 --> 00:38:00.840
back. Yeah, yeah, perfect. I mean, I found a

00:38:00.840 --> 00:38:03.679
video of Bill Shatner doing Rocket Man by Elton

00:38:03.679 --> 00:38:10.309
John. Oh, I heard that. Oh, God. God bless Bill

00:38:10.309 --> 00:38:13.349
Shatner. He knows he can't sing and he owns it.

00:38:13.409 --> 00:38:15.210
He's like, hey, this is what they want to hear.

00:38:15.269 --> 00:38:17.230
I'm going to do it. He's smart. He's like, oh,

00:38:17.230 --> 00:38:20.190
everybody likes this kind of gimmick that I got

00:38:20.190 --> 00:38:22.130
going on. He just kept it going. And he's laughing

00:38:22.130 --> 00:38:24.110
at himself just as much as we're laughing at

00:38:24.110 --> 00:38:26.849
him. So he's okay with it. And then he's doing

00:38:26.849 --> 00:38:30.929
stuff like the one where he goes to Iowa and

00:38:30.929 --> 00:38:34.650
what was it? Oh, yeah. Because his character

00:38:34.650 --> 00:38:39.139
was from Iowa. Yeah, anyhow. All right. Pretty

00:38:39.139 --> 00:38:41.679
good for a guy who was living in his car and

00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.239
doing dinner theater here in Kansas. Yeah, that's

00:38:44.239 --> 00:38:47.900
when the kid come up to him and said, hey, you

00:38:47.900 --> 00:38:51.599
want to talk? No, I got to go. That lady wants

00:38:51.599 --> 00:38:54.920
me to security. That's tight security. Oh, security's

00:38:54.920 --> 00:38:57.199
running you out? Yeah, she goes, you're smoking

00:38:57.199 --> 00:38:59.400
pot. I was going outside. You never see me smoke

00:38:59.400 --> 00:39:01.559
pot again. I'm out there by the pass of the bay.

00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:13.050
Yeah. Smoking weed. She's a bitch. That's bullshit.

00:39:13.349 --> 00:39:19.050
I would say prove it wasn't tobacco. Yeah. Prove

00:39:19.050 --> 00:39:22.190
it wasn't hemp, which is perfectly legal. Yeah.

00:39:23.030 --> 00:39:27.530
How much authority do they have is what I'm wondering.

00:39:27.710 --> 00:39:35.519
Yeah. Gosh. Damn it. People with a little bit

00:39:35.519 --> 00:39:38.039
of authority. A little bit of authority. Yeah,

00:39:38.039 --> 00:39:41.820
fuck. Well, we're not getting music. Yeah. See,

00:39:41.900 --> 00:39:44.000
musicians get oppressed everywhere, man. They

00:39:44.000 --> 00:39:48.980
do, yeah. Yeah. How about Metallica? Huh. No.

00:39:50.920 --> 00:39:52.699
There again, I don't think that, I don't see

00:39:52.699 --> 00:39:54.340
them coming up with anything new or different

00:39:54.340 --> 00:39:56.500
or exciting, so it'd be more of the same, so

00:39:56.500 --> 00:40:00.710
I'll pass. Yeah. Yeah, it is. As you're mentioning,

00:40:00.869 --> 00:40:02.409
they don't have the best track record lately.

00:40:02.750 --> 00:40:05.130
No, they haven't. And also, I hate their sound.

00:40:05.230 --> 00:40:09.050
They don't use bass anymore. Yeah. And it's all

00:40:09.050 --> 00:40:11.389
because Cliff Burton died. It's like, no, you

00:40:11.389 --> 00:40:14.050
should do good music to celebrate him. Yeah.

00:40:14.369 --> 00:40:18.469
Yeah. They're fucked. I mean, really. Yeah. They're

00:40:18.469 --> 00:40:20.929
lucky they've gotten as far as they have. Yeah,

00:40:20.989 --> 00:40:24.309
and for hanging around as long as they have through

00:40:24.309 --> 00:40:27.929
their mistakes and missteps. Yeah. They should

00:40:27.929 --> 00:40:32.139
be... Counting their blessings. Yeah. Oh, got

00:40:32.139 --> 00:40:36.920
the hiccups. How about Jon Bon Jovi? Actually,

00:40:36.960 --> 00:40:40.179
it's not Jon Bon Jovi. It's Bon Jovi. Jon Bon

00:40:40.179 --> 00:40:44.360
Jovi is the solo. Yeah. How about with Richie

00:40:44.360 --> 00:40:47.440
Sambora, too? I'm still going to say pass because

00:40:47.440 --> 00:40:50.760
Jon Bon Jovi has no voice left. I agree. Yeah.

00:40:50.860 --> 00:40:54.079
I agree. They would have to use AI to do his

00:40:54.079 --> 00:40:56.219
vocals for him, and then it's just fakery anyway.

00:40:56.480 --> 00:41:00.440
Yeah. He is proven by a lot of vocal performances

00:41:00.440 --> 00:41:04.139
live. He can't do it anymore. I saw him at the

00:41:04.139 --> 00:41:06.900
early parts of the Super Bowl. He came out there

00:41:06.900 --> 00:41:09.619
and said, oh, here's Jon Bon Jovi. Man, I would

00:41:09.619 --> 00:41:11.699
not have recognized him. He looks like Jamie

00:41:11.699 --> 00:41:13.619
Lee Curtis. No, that's what I was getting ready

00:41:13.619 --> 00:41:15.840
to say. He looks just like Jamie Lee Curtis.

00:41:15.900 --> 00:41:18.960
Yes, everyone has the memes now. Jamie Lee Curtis

00:41:18.960 --> 00:41:21.079
made it out to the Super Bowl and all this stuff,

00:41:21.159 --> 00:41:23.869
yeah. Yeah, that's like Bruce Springsteen looks

00:41:23.869 --> 00:41:27.429
like Woody Allen. Nobody wants to look like Woody

00:41:27.429 --> 00:41:29.190
Allen. Woody Allen doesn't want to look like

00:41:29.190 --> 00:41:32.690
Woody Allen. Oh, no, no, no. Yeah. Well, his

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:36.489
stepdaughter. His stepdaughter wife. Yeah, his

00:41:36.489 --> 00:41:40.409
stepdaughter wife. Mia Farrow adopted her, and

00:41:40.409 --> 00:41:43.110
then Woody married Mia Farrow, and then immediately

00:41:43.110 --> 00:41:45.170
started having an affair with the stepdaughter,

00:41:45.309 --> 00:41:47.929
and then dumped Mia and married the stepdaughter.

00:41:48.800 --> 00:41:51.239
Wouldn't you know it, Woody Allen features prominently

00:41:51.239 --> 00:41:54.940
in the Epstein Files. Yes. Gee, who would have

00:41:54.940 --> 00:41:56.940
figured that? Who would have thought he was a

00:41:56.940 --> 00:42:03.699
pervert? It surprised us all not. Yeah. Okay,

00:42:03.820 --> 00:42:08.760
so we're snowing Bon Jovi. Okay. R .E .M. No.

00:42:09.300 --> 00:42:12.579
No. Everyone's tired of Michael Stipe. Yeah.

00:42:12.739 --> 00:42:16.179
He thought he was like big Mr. Mysterioso and

00:42:16.179 --> 00:42:18.929
everybody was fascinated by him. Most people

00:42:18.929 --> 00:42:21.510
just thought he was kind of a weirdo and wished

00:42:21.510 --> 00:42:26.210
he would just be a regular singer. The dark -haired

00:42:26.210 --> 00:42:31.869
gal from the B -52s, Kate something, she did

00:42:31.869 --> 00:42:35.030
a song with Michael Stipe and R .E .M., Shiny

00:42:35.030 --> 00:42:39.389
Happy People. The B -52s are kind of a weird

00:42:39.389 --> 00:42:41.690
band, but she did an interview later and said,

00:42:41.769 --> 00:42:44.710
Oh my God, I've never been around so much weirdness

00:42:44.710 --> 00:42:47.610
in my life. That guy is a freak. I don't want

00:42:47.610 --> 00:42:49.610
anything to do with him. I will never work with

00:42:49.610 --> 00:42:54.869
him again. He was scary. Yeah. Hearing him talk,

00:42:55.210 --> 00:43:01.369
I have to concur with that 100%. Yeah. But what

00:43:01.369 --> 00:43:06.510
defined him for me was, for a while, the press

00:43:06.510 --> 00:43:10.570
kept pestering him to reveal his sexual preference.

00:43:11.010 --> 00:43:14.010
Yes. Which, at the time, was kind of a thing.

00:43:14.639 --> 00:43:18.139
And he kept saying no, no, no, no, no. And eventually

00:43:18.139 --> 00:43:21.360
it became not a thing and nobody cared and everyone

00:43:21.360 --> 00:43:23.400
stopped asking him. And after a couple years

00:43:23.400 --> 00:43:26.360
of no one asking him, he came out and said, oh,

00:43:26.400 --> 00:43:29.199
by the way, I'm gay. I'm gay. I'm going to tell

00:43:29.199 --> 00:43:31.480
everyone. Everybody already knew. Yeah, and the

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:33.480
ones that didn't know didn't care. Yeah, it was

00:43:33.480 --> 00:43:35.900
like, this is old news, dude. Don't try to get

00:43:35.900 --> 00:43:38.300
your name in the press now. It's not, yeah, nobody

00:43:38.300 --> 00:43:41.940
cares. Yeah, yeah. And just the way he handled

00:43:41.940 --> 00:43:45.739
that whole thing of trying to. hide it as if

00:43:45.739 --> 00:43:47.960
it was something private. And then when nobody

00:43:47.960 --> 00:43:50.199
cared anymore, he couldn't wait to tell everyone

00:43:50.199 --> 00:43:53.500
about it and wanted lots of attention and accolade

00:43:53.500 --> 00:43:55.179
for it. Yeah, and everybody's like, man, we don't

00:43:55.179 --> 00:43:59.559
care. Yeah. It's like trying to get attention

00:43:59.559 --> 00:44:02.380
for being, oh, look, I'm a chef and I have tattoos.

00:44:02.920 --> 00:44:05.280
Well, yeah, everybody who's a chef has tattoos.

00:44:05.340 --> 00:44:07.579
You kind of got to have to now. Yeah. You know,

00:44:07.579 --> 00:44:09.340
if you're a chef, you got to have tattoos and

00:44:09.340 --> 00:44:11.460
lots of piercings because that's what people

00:44:11.460 --> 00:44:14.369
expect. So don't think you're something special

00:44:14.369 --> 00:44:16.309
by suddenly announcing, oh, I'm a chef and I

00:44:16.309 --> 00:44:18.750
have a tattoo. No, it was like widely, there

00:44:18.750 --> 00:44:21.130
are a bunch of day artists all over the music

00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:24.050
industry, and you've been proven a miserable

00:44:24.050 --> 00:44:26.769
bastard anyhow, so why even bother? Yeah, nobody

00:44:26.769 --> 00:44:31.510
cared. Yeah. Next one, how about, okay, so that's

00:44:31.510 --> 00:44:34.190
a pass. That's a pass. Yep. The Red Hot Chili

00:44:34.190 --> 00:44:37.329
Peppers. Pass. Pass. I think they've got nothing.

00:44:37.949 --> 00:44:40.789
I never really was all that. impressed with them

00:44:40.789 --> 00:44:42.909
to begin with. I understand a lot of people were

00:44:42.909 --> 00:44:45.889
and really liked them, but to me, they were very

00:44:45.889 --> 00:44:48.829
repetitious. They were. They used that funk bass

00:44:48.829 --> 00:44:51.769
way, way, way to pop in and all that. They used

00:44:51.769 --> 00:44:54.110
it way too much. And every other song was about

00:44:54.110 --> 00:44:59.750
California. Yep. And, yeah, it's just... They

00:44:59.750 --> 00:45:03.690
didn't seem to have enough different and interesting

00:45:03.690 --> 00:45:08.710
stuff creatively to sustain more than a few albums.

00:45:09.230 --> 00:45:12.349
And then they just kind of coasted by on reputation

00:45:12.349 --> 00:45:19.010
and controversy. I'm smelling weed all of a sudden

00:45:19.010 --> 00:45:21.489
now. I am too. Someone's out there smoking weed.

00:45:21.889 --> 00:45:24.909
They've got chicks going to bust them too. Yeah.

00:45:25.909 --> 00:45:30.349
I mean, even my wife liked the red hot chili

00:45:30.349 --> 00:45:32.349
peppers for a while, and now she's totally done

00:45:32.349 --> 00:45:35.849
with them. They're like, meh, for nothing. I

00:45:35.849 --> 00:45:38.170
think they're meh also. Same old, same old. Oh,

00:45:38.190 --> 00:45:41.250
the best Super Bowl commercial was meh, the first

00:45:41.250 --> 00:45:46.969
one. It was Jason Kelsey and his wife. Did you

00:45:46.969 --> 00:45:48.710
see that or not? I must have missed that one.

00:45:48.710 --> 00:45:50.610
Look it up. For like the first half of the Super

00:45:50.610 --> 00:45:52.570
Bowl, we were eating and talking and watching,

00:45:52.610 --> 00:45:55.320
so we didn't take it. Too much attention. That

00:45:55.320 --> 00:45:57.400
one was really good. There were some decent ones,

00:45:57.500 --> 00:46:00.119
but that one was the best one they started off

00:46:00.119 --> 00:46:02.019
with. But anyhow, look it up when you get a chance.

00:46:02.179 --> 00:46:04.599
At halftime, they switched over to watch the

00:46:04.599 --> 00:46:07.780
Olympics. One gal was like, how come the commercials

00:46:07.780 --> 00:46:10.360
are so boring? Oh, that's right. It's not the

00:46:10.360 --> 00:46:15.599
Super Bowl anymore. It's the Olympics. All right.

00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:20.090
How about the Scorpions? I would be wanting to

00:46:20.090 --> 00:46:22.289
hear what they have to offer. Yeah, their singer,

00:46:22.349 --> 00:46:25.289
again, is the guy who's lost it. Yeah. So it's

00:46:25.289 --> 00:46:28.530
not going to be... I'd be willing to say press

00:46:28.530 --> 00:46:30.309
just because the musicianship is going to be

00:46:30.309 --> 00:46:32.730
decent. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, Klaus doesn't

00:46:32.730 --> 00:46:34.389
have the voice he used to, but I think he could

00:46:34.389 --> 00:46:39.110
manage it enough for an album. Okay, yeah. Reluctantly

00:46:39.110 --> 00:46:43.250
press pass. Or press pass. Yeah, me too. Look,

00:46:43.889 --> 00:46:46.349
if it's horrible, I'll accept responsibility

00:46:46.349 --> 00:46:51.019
for passing it, but... Eh, why not? Yeah. How

00:46:51.019 --> 00:46:58.019
about Disturbed? Huh. I think they could have

00:46:58.019 --> 00:47:00.059
more to say. I think they could, too. I would

00:47:00.059 --> 00:47:02.280
like to see what direction they go into, because

00:47:02.280 --> 00:47:04.079
they couldn't do what they did before, the powder

00:47:04.079 --> 00:47:08.519
rock, quasi -metal -er. Yeah. Yeah, that's not

00:47:08.519 --> 00:47:12.360
really the style right now at all. I think, and

00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:15.079
they were mainstream. I mean, they're played

00:47:15.079 --> 00:47:17.480
on many stations across America and still are.

00:47:17.619 --> 00:47:21.340
Yeah. Yeah, I'd like to see that. Yeah, I'll

00:47:21.340 --> 00:47:26.559
do press. Evanescent. Yes. Yeah, I would like

00:47:26.559 --> 00:47:29.039
to hear it. Yeah, I don't think Amy Lee really

00:47:29.039 --> 00:47:31.780
got the chance to do what she really wanted to

00:47:31.780 --> 00:47:34.619
do. No, I agree. Even on their big breakout album.

00:47:35.860 --> 00:47:39.539
She had the Wake Me Up Inside. What was the other

00:47:39.539 --> 00:47:44.420
one? A couple other ones. Yeah. Yeah. My Last

00:47:44.420 --> 00:47:47.820
Breath. Going Under. Going Under. But a number

00:47:47.820 --> 00:47:49.780
of those songs, the production actually said,

00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:52.199
no, we don't want a female vocal all the way

00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.239
through. We have to have a male lead vocal too.

00:47:54.820 --> 00:47:56.699
Otherwise, the metalheads are going to tune out.

00:47:56.840 --> 00:48:00.019
Yeah. So there's a lot of creative choices that

00:48:00.019 --> 00:48:03.000
the band wasn't allowed to make. Yeah. So I'd

00:48:03.000 --> 00:48:06.920
like to see her do something in that style and

00:48:06.920 --> 00:48:08.860
do it her way, the way she would have wanted

00:48:08.860 --> 00:48:10.820
to do it in the first place. Yeah. I kind of

00:48:10.820 --> 00:48:14.340
feel the same way. Or her go solo. Yeah. All

00:48:14.340 --> 00:48:21.900
right. How about Aerosmith? Nah. Nah. Even Joe

00:48:21.900 --> 00:48:26.579
Perry, his latest stuff. Nah. I mean, I'm a big

00:48:26.579 --> 00:48:29.420
fan of the rhythm section. You know, the bass,

00:48:29.480 --> 00:48:31.679
the drums, and the rhythm guitar. But Joe Perry

00:48:31.679 --> 00:48:34.219
and Steven Tyler, I just really don't want to

00:48:34.219 --> 00:48:36.219
hear anything more from them. I'm just so tired

00:48:36.219 --> 00:48:38.860
of them. And even Brad Whitford. I love him.

00:48:38.940 --> 00:48:42.280
I mean, Brad Whitford is so underrated. Yeah.

00:48:42.920 --> 00:48:45.219
Joe Perry got all the love, but Brad Whitford

00:48:45.219 --> 00:48:47.800
is just as much of a guitarist as Joe Perry is.

00:48:47.880 --> 00:48:52.219
He just didn't get the rub. And most of those

00:48:52.219 --> 00:48:55.719
nice, big, meaty hooks that you get in Aerosmith

00:48:55.719 --> 00:48:57.739
songs, those are played by Brad Whitford, not

00:48:57.739 --> 00:49:02.159
Joe. Yeah, that's Brad. He's doing the rhythm

00:49:02.159 --> 00:49:05.880
parts. Yep. So, all right, we agree with that.

00:49:06.320 --> 00:49:11.440
How about the Goo Goo Dolls? Huh, that'd be interesting

00:49:11.440 --> 00:49:14.420
to see. I would just to see what they do. Yeah,

00:49:14.559 --> 00:49:18.480
they got really big for just like half a minute,

00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:21.679
and then they just went away. Was there a name?

00:49:22.320 --> 00:49:24.619
Yeah, I will tell them your name, and there's

00:49:24.619 --> 00:49:28.679
Iris, and there's Slide. I think Name was probably

00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.239
their biggest one. And that's one that's still

00:49:31.239 --> 00:49:33.960
played all over. It's got the acoustic beginning

00:49:33.960 --> 00:49:37.230
and all that. But it's so funny how they went

00:49:37.230 --> 00:49:40.190
from, you know, the next big thing to playing

00:49:40.190 --> 00:49:42.690
state fairs. Yeah, I know. In a heartbeat. And

00:49:42.690 --> 00:49:44.550
they're one of the first. It's daylight when

00:49:44.550 --> 00:49:47.449
they play. Yeah. Yeah, so it's not even like,

00:49:47.570 --> 00:49:52.829
hey, the Google goals are fronting this, I don't

00:49:52.829 --> 00:49:55.010
know, Sedalia or whatever, you know. It's like,

00:49:55.010 --> 00:49:59.110
no. No. Yeah, I think at Mocan Fest, not Mocan,

00:49:59.110 --> 00:50:03.969
but the Ozark Mountain Fest, got sued. And it's

00:50:03.969 --> 00:50:06.030
no longer in existence. And I think it was over

00:50:06.030 --> 00:50:08.989
the original Ozark Mountain Festival. I didn't

00:50:08.989 --> 00:50:10.849
read up on it, but I saw a little blurb on the

00:50:10.849 --> 00:50:12.489
internet. And I'm like, wow, because people are

00:50:12.489 --> 00:50:14.329
saying, yeah, you got your ass sued, didn't you?

00:50:14.389 --> 00:50:16.429
All this stuff. So I'll have to read up on it.

00:50:16.909 --> 00:50:20.989
All right. So Goo Goo Dolls is a yes. How about

00:50:20.989 --> 00:50:26.389
Guns N' Roses? I do. Their new song is not that

00:50:26.389 --> 00:50:28.289
bad. It's pretty good. They put some thought

00:50:28.289 --> 00:50:30.909
into it. You couldn't put it up against appetite.

00:50:31.480 --> 00:50:34.699
or even any of the illusions. But it's not bad,

00:50:34.820 --> 00:50:37.500
especially for this time of day. They actually

00:50:37.500 --> 00:50:39.579
put a little production and thought and effort

00:50:39.579 --> 00:50:42.699
into it. I thought it was good. And it's nothing

00:50:42.699 --> 00:50:45.599
without the G's. I mean, nothing. Nothing. Nothing.

00:50:45.940 --> 00:50:51.500
I guess I'll press. I'll press. Me too. This

00:50:51.500 --> 00:50:55.739
one's hard to read because... Okay, Starship.

00:50:57.840 --> 00:51:00.820
I'm saying that just because they haven't done

00:51:00.820 --> 00:51:03.440
anything in so long. I'm all done with Grace

00:51:03.440 --> 00:51:06.739
Slick. Yeah. And the last stuff that Starship

00:51:06.739 --> 00:51:09.260
did was just corporate rock for the sake of profits.

00:51:09.539 --> 00:51:12.480
Yeah. Grace Slick said openly in an interview

00:51:12.480 --> 00:51:16.480
for their last album, you know, we built this

00:51:16.480 --> 00:51:19.019
city on rock and roll, et cetera. She wanted

00:51:19.019 --> 00:51:22.280
to do one more album and one big tour to make

00:51:22.280 --> 00:51:24.559
a bunch of money and then retire. She said, everything's

00:51:24.559 --> 00:51:26.809
got to be a hit. Everything's got to be. You

00:51:26.809 --> 00:51:29.989
know, massive airplay. And we'll do one big ass

00:51:29.989 --> 00:51:32.469
tour so I have enough money to live on when I

00:51:32.469 --> 00:51:38.969
die. Okay. So she was selling out very obviously.

00:51:39.750 --> 00:51:42.389
And I'm not really interested in listening to

00:51:42.389 --> 00:51:45.130
Grace Slick and her sellout music. No, me neither.

00:51:47.010 --> 00:51:50.489
This next one. I wasn't a huge fan of them like

00:51:50.489 --> 00:51:54.630
a lot of people. Green Day. Eh, I'm done with

00:51:54.630 --> 00:51:56.909
Green Day. There you go. I never really cared

00:51:56.909 --> 00:51:58.590
for them that much anyhow. Now that they're all

00:51:58.590 --> 00:52:02.030
mouthy, fuck them. They need to shut up and sing.

00:52:02.150 --> 00:52:04.389
Once you go into musical theater, you've kind

00:52:04.389 --> 00:52:09.469
of lost your punk image. It's kind of done with

00:52:09.469 --> 00:52:12.730
them. I agree with that 100%. Yeah, that's a

00:52:12.730 --> 00:52:16.369
solid big time uh -uh. Yeah, big pass. This next

00:52:16.369 --> 00:52:21.409
one, I'll leave it to you because I'm saying

00:52:21.409 --> 00:52:24.090
no because the recent stuff has been horrible

00:52:24.090 --> 00:52:27.820
to me. The Foo Fighters. Yeah, I'll pass on that.

00:52:29.019 --> 00:52:31.059
They came out with good music for many years,

00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:33.179
but I think finally Dave Grohl is just like,

00:52:33.199 --> 00:52:35.820
it passed him or whatever. Yeah, I think so.

00:52:36.059 --> 00:52:38.199
He developed too much as a musician to where

00:52:38.199 --> 00:52:40.019
he doesn't want to play. I don't know what it

00:52:40.019 --> 00:52:42.699
is. Whatever happens to these people somewhere

00:52:42.699 --> 00:52:48.159
down the line, it happened to him. Yeah. Okay,

00:52:48.340 --> 00:52:53.139
so Foo Fighters definitely a no. How about Nickelback?

00:52:54.639 --> 00:52:56.780
I'm going to go press just because it pisses

00:52:56.780 --> 00:53:00.579
a lot of people off. Yes. All the Nickelback

00:53:00.579 --> 00:53:04.400
haters are like, oh, oh. I want to see him squirm.

00:53:04.579 --> 00:53:06.960
Even their town in Canada that they came from

00:53:06.960 --> 00:53:13.880
took down their sign. Oh, God. And all they said

00:53:13.880 --> 00:53:17.079
was, this is how you remind me. Yep. No sign.

00:53:17.380 --> 00:53:23.260
All right. This one I think is the easy but foreigner.

00:53:24.539 --> 00:53:26.900
No, there's not one original member. No, there's

00:53:26.900 --> 00:53:29.179
nobody left. No, if it said Foreigner cover band,

00:53:29.300 --> 00:53:31.219
I might be interested. But it said Foreigner,

00:53:31.260 --> 00:53:38.539
so no. I got Lou Graham out there. Mick Jones

00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:41.380
died, didn't he? I think so, yeah. Yeah, he at

00:53:41.380 --> 00:53:44.059
least wasn't performing most of the time. Yeah,

00:53:44.260 --> 00:53:49.400
but he's no longer an option. This next one,

00:53:49.579 --> 00:53:54.889
Pink Floyd. No. Nope. No. Not even. Nick Mason

00:53:54.889 --> 00:53:59.369
doesn't play drums anymore. No. David Gilmour,

00:53:59.389 --> 00:54:01.630
I would rather hear him solo if they did anything,

00:54:01.769 --> 00:54:03.730
and that's it. Richard Wright, the keyboard player,

00:54:03.869 --> 00:54:07.750
he's dead. Yep. Roger Waters is a fucking complete

00:54:07.750 --> 00:54:10.250
asshole that can't make music or sing anymore.

00:54:10.530 --> 00:54:13.969
Yeah, yeah. Even if Roger Waters just came out

00:54:13.969 --> 00:54:16.369
and did his music, he still can't do it. No.

00:54:16.449 --> 00:54:19.389
He can't sing and he can't play anything like

00:54:19.389 --> 00:54:23.699
he should. All he's got left is his political

00:54:23.699 --> 00:54:27.340
controversy. And Arabe hates him, so he can just

00:54:27.340 --> 00:54:29.380
go away like he should have a long time ago.

00:54:29.880 --> 00:54:36.119
And then finally, Poison. I'd say no. I'm going

00:54:36.119 --> 00:54:38.159
to pass because they haven't come out with anything

00:54:38.159 --> 00:54:40.500
in so long. I don't think they intend to. And

00:54:40.500 --> 00:54:43.179
this also goes with Bret Michaels solo. Nothing

00:54:43.179 --> 00:54:45.519
has been out, so I think they have nothing left.

00:54:45.880 --> 00:54:48.940
Yeah. And Bret Michaels' attitude of wanting

00:54:48.940 --> 00:54:51.789
to pay $6 ,000 be paid six times as much as everyone

00:54:51.789 --> 00:54:55.429
else what a dick uh members of the band are coming

00:54:55.429 --> 00:54:57.429
out now and saying this is the way he's always

00:54:57.429 --> 00:55:00.130
been you know all the way back to when we were

00:55:00.130 --> 00:55:02.349
starting out there were reports that long time

00:55:02.349 --> 00:55:07.530
ago oh yeah yeah he's he wanted um he started

00:55:07.530 --> 00:55:10.289
out wanting his own separate room and then that

00:55:10.289 --> 00:55:13.650
turned into my own room at my own hotel where

00:55:13.650 --> 00:55:16.440
the rest of the band is not staying And then

00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:18.340
while the rest of the band was traveling by bus,

00:55:18.500 --> 00:55:21.360
he wanted a private plane. As soon as the show

00:55:21.360 --> 00:55:24.019
was over, he would be whisked out of the venue

00:55:24.019 --> 00:55:26.980
into a van, off to the airport, fly to the next

00:55:26.980 --> 00:55:29.719
venue, check into a hotel, and be resting and

00:55:29.719 --> 00:55:31.400
relaxing while the rest of the band was still

00:55:31.400 --> 00:55:33.179
trying to get their asses out the door and into

00:55:33.179 --> 00:55:37.980
the bus. Every step of the way, he's been like,

00:55:38.099 --> 00:55:40.960
he's the emperor and we're his little peons.

00:55:41.179 --> 00:55:44.030
And the rest of the band's like, screw him. If

00:55:44.030 --> 00:55:45.809
he wants to get paid six times as much, he can

00:55:45.809 --> 00:55:50.610
go hire a new band. Okay. I'm pretty much saying

00:55:50.610 --> 00:55:53.849
Bret Michaels has got a severe case of lead singer

00:55:53.849 --> 00:55:58.030
disease. Yes, he does. Yeah. And I knew he was

00:55:58.030 --> 00:56:01.090
a dick like that when he did that Mary and Bret

00:56:01.090 --> 00:56:03.889
Michaels or whatever shit. Yeah. You can spot

00:56:03.889 --> 00:56:07.599
the arrogance on his face. Yeah. It's like, that

00:56:07.599 --> 00:56:10.099
bandana you're wearing is fooling nobody. We

00:56:10.099 --> 00:56:12.940
all know you're bald as an egg on top. So just

00:56:12.940 --> 00:56:16.179
take the damn thing off and come clean. He has

00:56:16.179 --> 00:56:18.519
enough money. Why didn't he ever get a transplant

00:56:18.519 --> 00:56:21.400
of some sort? I don't understand. Kiss did. And

00:56:21.400 --> 00:56:24.760
they look great after that. I guess that would

00:56:24.760 --> 00:56:27.179
be, he would have to admit that he's going bald

00:56:27.179 --> 00:56:29.380
and he doesn't want to. So as long as he keeps

00:56:29.380 --> 00:56:32.300
it covered with that do -rag shit, then he can

00:56:32.300 --> 00:56:35.019
deny that he's losing his hair. But it's so obvious

00:56:35.019 --> 00:56:37.239
to everybody. Pretty obvious. I mean, it's so

00:56:37.239 --> 00:56:39.380
tight and flat to his scalp, you can tell there's

00:56:39.380 --> 00:56:42.500
no hair under that. It's just the fake hair that's

00:56:42.500 --> 00:56:44.260
sticking out around the edges. He's probably

00:56:44.260 --> 00:56:49.920
shaved clean under there. Yeah, probably. Probably

00:56:49.920 --> 00:56:53.610
so. Yep. All right, so that was a solid no also.

00:56:53.849 --> 00:56:56.030
All right, you got something? I'll add one to

00:56:56.030 --> 00:56:58.610
the presser. Add as many as you want. I love

00:56:58.610 --> 00:57:04.090
this presser. Alice Cooper. New music? Yeah,

00:57:04.150 --> 00:57:06.269
I'm going to press pass. I'm going to press pass

00:57:06.269 --> 00:57:09.010
too. It hurts my heart. It does, it does. He's

00:57:09.010 --> 00:57:12.670
always been one of my favorites. Something that

00:57:12.670 --> 00:57:15.530
has disturbed me lately, he came out with an

00:57:15.530 --> 00:57:25.400
EP called... Red Crumbs. And then he later came

00:57:25.400 --> 00:57:27.800
out with a full album called Detroit Stories

00:57:27.800 --> 00:57:32.800
that was the EP plus a few other songs. And I

00:57:32.800 --> 00:57:35.260
thought, what a rip -off. You already released

00:57:35.260 --> 00:57:38.139
this as an EP. Yeah. And now we're paying for

00:57:38.139 --> 00:57:41.480
it again on this album. And then his latest album,

00:57:41.619 --> 00:57:47.980
Road, has remakes and sequel songs on it. That's

00:57:47.980 --> 00:57:51.079
a warning sign. I agree. Running out of creativity.

00:57:51.380 --> 00:57:54.360
Running out of ideas. He can't figure out what

00:57:54.360 --> 00:57:56.960
Alice would do next. And, you know, he's Vince.

00:57:57.539 --> 00:57:59.739
He's a golf player. He's a Christian. He's Vince.

00:58:00.099 --> 00:58:02.039
And he tries to figure out what would Alice do

00:58:02.039 --> 00:58:04.179
next. And he's just running out of ideas. Is

00:58:04.179 --> 00:58:09.440
it a go? No. Oh, damn it. Yeah. No smoking sign.

00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:11.260
Have you seen a no smoking sign in this area?

00:58:11.300 --> 00:58:14.639
No. Not at all. We've got a lot to talk about.

00:58:14.780 --> 00:58:17.159
I'm like, let's find out her name. Yeah, there

00:58:17.159 --> 00:58:21.860
you go. Yes. All right, you too. Damn it. Yeah,

00:58:22.420 --> 00:58:25.480
lost our music background. Yeah, we did. And

00:58:25.480 --> 00:58:28.219
a cool guy. Yeah. But, you know, as much as it

00:58:28.219 --> 00:58:31.239
hurts me to say, then I think Alice should hang

00:58:31.239 --> 00:58:34.219
it up. Me too. It hurts my heart, but I agree.

00:58:34.460 --> 00:58:38.480
Yeah. Don't embarrass yourself, man. Alice, we

00:58:38.480 --> 00:58:41.139
love you. He's 78 years old. I think he's done

00:58:41.139 --> 00:58:43.559
enough. He's got nothing to prove. Yeah. Nothing.

00:58:43.840 --> 00:58:46.789
No. I mean, he took the most out of really not

00:58:46.789 --> 00:58:49.989
that much talent. And, I mean, he has talent.

00:58:50.110 --> 00:58:53.530
He's kind of like Ozzy. He has talent, but it's

00:58:53.530 --> 00:58:55.989
not the obvious talent of coming out there and

00:58:55.989 --> 00:58:58.929
singing. Yeah, he's never been a good singer,

00:58:58.989 --> 00:59:01.050
and he knows it. He doesn't pretend to be a good

00:59:01.050 --> 00:59:04.269
singer. And all this theatrics and stage show

00:59:04.269 --> 00:59:06.789
is partly to make up for the fact that he's not

00:59:06.789 --> 00:59:09.889
a very good singer. Yeah. Well, Richie Blackmore

00:59:09.889 --> 00:59:12.090
put it perfectly when he was asked about Ozzy.

00:59:12.329 --> 00:59:13.869
I thought he was going to take a shit on him,

00:59:13.909 --> 00:59:15.730
right? Yeah. Because he's a perfectionist. He

00:59:15.730 --> 00:59:19.670
goes, no. He goes, the preference for the people,

00:59:19.829 --> 00:59:23.750
the preferred voice is Ozzy. He didn't say it's

00:59:23.750 --> 00:59:26.510
the best voice. He didn't say anything. He just

00:59:26.510 --> 00:59:28.449
said that is the preferred voice of everybody.

00:59:28.630 --> 00:59:31.150
Everybody likes his voice. Yeah. So it was a

00:59:31.150 --> 00:59:33.769
compliment like it should have been. It was like

00:59:33.769 --> 00:59:36.130
everybody loves him. I'm not saying whether he's

00:59:36.130 --> 00:59:38.929
great or not. Everybody loves him. Yeah. Yeah.

00:59:38.949 --> 00:59:40.489
Everybody likes his voice. They're comfortable

00:59:40.489 --> 00:59:43.050
with it. Alice Cooper is another one. Everybody

00:59:43.050 --> 00:59:45.030
is comfortable with the voice, and they're comfortable

00:59:45.030 --> 00:59:49.550
with him. He's pretty non -controversial at this

00:59:49.550 --> 00:59:54.849
point. He made his big splash by being insanely

00:59:54.849 --> 00:59:57.869
controversial for the time. Now everyone knows,

00:59:57.989 --> 01:00:00.269
well, this is just an act. It's just like Ozzy

01:00:00.269 --> 01:00:03.250
was. It's like an actor on a TV show. You don't

01:00:03.250 --> 01:00:05.090
judge him by the character he's playing. You

01:00:05.090 --> 01:00:06.949
judge him by the entertainment value. I want

01:00:06.949 --> 01:00:10.170
to see the before and after of the Osborn show.

01:00:10.909 --> 01:00:13.230
I want to see the demographic that people have

01:00:13.230 --> 01:00:16.369
bought his music before and then after. Good

01:00:16.369 --> 01:00:19.690
point, yeah. It's night and day, I guarantee

01:00:19.690 --> 01:00:25.289
it. Because everybody loved him after that. Before,

01:00:25.389 --> 01:00:27.389
people were afraid of him. That's that guy that

01:00:27.389 --> 01:00:29.170
put the head off the doves and the bats and he

01:00:29.170 --> 01:00:31.230
devil worships and he drinks blood and he kills

01:00:31.230 --> 01:00:33.230
children. And then all of a sudden he's on there

01:00:33.230 --> 01:00:36.639
talking about... He fucking is the bulldog shitting

01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:39.440
in the living room. He's just a regular old suburban

01:00:39.440 --> 01:00:42.539
dad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or when Sharon told him

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:44.980
in Vegas he's going to do Bubbles. And he's like,

01:00:45.079 --> 01:00:47.659
I'm the prince of fucking darkness. I don't do

01:00:47.659 --> 01:00:49.519
Bubbles. And next thing they show him on stage

01:00:49.519 --> 01:00:53.300
with Bubbles everywhere. So, yeah, yeah. So,

01:00:53.300 --> 01:00:55.699
Alice was kind of like that. They made graphic

01:00:55.699 --> 01:00:58.360
novels. They made all this stuff about him. He

01:00:58.360 --> 01:01:02.159
became friendly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he played

01:01:02.159 --> 01:01:07.539
the Alice character in movies, too. Ironically,

01:01:07.579 --> 01:01:10.219
a movie called Prince of Darkness by John Carpenter.

01:01:10.300 --> 01:01:12.639
That's right. Yep, he was a homeless guy who

01:01:12.639 --> 01:01:15.840
murdered somebody with a bicycle. He played in,

01:01:15.880 --> 01:01:21.820
what was the one, Sammy Kerr? Sammy Kerr. Yeah,

01:01:21.840 --> 01:01:25.480
yeah, yeah. The rocker that was killing people.

01:01:28.750 --> 01:01:33.050
Shit, he's a monster dog, too. Hey, my fellow

01:01:33.050 --> 01:01:36.369
heavy breathers, this is Dash Riptide with your

01:01:36.369 --> 01:01:42.349
music news. Glenn Hughes, the legendary bassist,

01:01:42.469 --> 01:01:47.409
lead singer of many, many great bands, such as

01:01:47.409 --> 01:01:51.010
Deep Purple, Black Sabbath, Black Country Communion,

01:01:51.090 --> 01:01:56.070
California Breed, and so on and so on. He had

01:01:56.070 --> 01:01:59.050
a U .S. tour planned for this April. Glenn unfortunately

01:01:59.050 --> 01:02:01.750
had to cancel due to what's been described as

01:02:01.750 --> 01:02:04.869
a minor medical issue. I already had seats for

01:02:04.869 --> 01:02:07.389
legendary rocker Knuckleheads, but like most

01:02:07.389 --> 01:02:10.230
times, I try to see him, and it gets canceled.

01:02:10.710 --> 01:02:14.090
Glenn, I love you, but no more. Third time getting

01:02:14.090 --> 01:02:17.510
jerked is enough. We do wish you a full and speedy

01:02:17.510 --> 01:02:20.409
recovery, and hopefully a full and speedy recovery

01:02:20.409 --> 01:02:25.190
of my fucking money. Again, sorry, not sorry.

01:02:25.469 --> 01:02:28.650
This is Gash Riptine. and that was your music

01:02:28.650 --> 01:02:31.710
news. If it's too loud, you probably have ear

01:02:31.710 --> 01:02:42.849
damage, just like me. Oh, well. He did some TV.

01:02:43.030 --> 01:02:45.929
Way back in the day, he did the Snoop Sisters.

01:02:46.730 --> 01:02:49.230
Snoop Sisters? Okay, please explain. I don't

01:02:49.230 --> 01:02:53.550
know. This was back around 1973, after a Billion

01:02:53.550 --> 01:02:57.960
Dollar Babies album came out. Uh -huh. School's

01:02:57.960 --> 01:03:00.480
Out, the previous album, pretty much made them

01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:02.780
superstars, and then Billion Dollar Babies came

01:03:02.780 --> 01:03:05.360
out, and it was like a victory lap. Yeah. And

01:03:05.360 --> 01:03:09.139
Snoop Sisters was... Sammy Kerr, what movie was

01:03:09.139 --> 01:03:14.320
that character? The Snoop Sisters was two little

01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:16.639
old ladies that solved crimes. Trick or Treat.

01:03:16.860 --> 01:03:19.119
Trick or Treat, yeah, that was it. Okay, anyhow,

01:03:19.239 --> 01:03:21.340
go ahead. That was Helen Hayes and somebody else.

01:03:22.340 --> 01:03:25.699
And on one of the episodes, there was witchcraft

01:03:25.699 --> 01:03:29.039
involved, so they had to go ask a local witch

01:03:29.039 --> 01:03:31.400
for information, who was played by Alice Cooper.

01:03:31.719 --> 01:03:35.480
Oh. I didn't know this. He came out and sang

01:03:35.480 --> 01:03:39.559
a modified version of the song Sick Things. Okay.

01:03:40.260 --> 01:03:43.920
And then the Snoop sisters went up and talked

01:03:43.920 --> 01:03:46.119
to him, and he was reluctant to share information.

01:03:46.639 --> 01:03:52.500
Snoop Dogg's ants? Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

01:03:52.500 --> 01:03:55.039
then they told him... It's Duke Midas' brother.

01:03:55.559 --> 01:03:58.260
Yes. They said, you know, we were referred to

01:03:58.260 --> 01:04:00.800
you by so -and -so, and they said that the witch

01:04:00.800 --> 01:04:03.480
who helped us would probably become a warlock

01:04:03.480 --> 01:04:06.920
pretty soon. And he was like, really? He said

01:04:06.920 --> 01:04:09.090
that? Then all of a sudden he's willing to help.

01:04:09.250 --> 01:04:11.349
So he gave them the information they needed.

01:04:11.469 --> 01:04:13.090
I've got to look that up on the internet. That

01:04:13.090 --> 01:04:15.969
sounds good. And he was on The Muppet Show. Oh,

01:04:15.969 --> 01:04:19.070
yeah. Yes, a couple of times. Okay. He was on

01:04:19.070 --> 01:04:21.369
there with Vincent Price once. Yes. Who was one

01:04:21.369 --> 01:04:24.909
of his idols. He was, yeah. He had Vincent Price

01:04:24.909 --> 01:04:29.829
in his movie. On a song, Black Widow? Yep. Yeah,

01:04:29.829 --> 01:04:32.829
Black Widow, yeah. Welcome to my nightmare. Yeah.

01:04:33.710 --> 01:04:35.949
And Vincent Price and Alice Cooper on the same

01:04:35.949 --> 01:04:39.110
song is fucking awesome. It was awesome. I remember

01:04:39.110 --> 01:04:40.949
hearing that at first going, oh, this is heaven.

01:04:43.030 --> 01:04:48.190
Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately, 78 years old. What

01:04:48.190 --> 01:04:52.630
do you expect? Yeah. You know? And especially,

01:04:52.829 --> 01:04:56.329
he had a hard life for a few years. He did. So.

01:04:56.369 --> 01:04:58.510
He pretty much destroyed his body with alcohol

01:04:58.510 --> 01:05:01.619
and then. The next few years after that, destroyed

01:05:01.619 --> 01:05:04.280
it with cocaine. Yeah. And then after that, went

01:05:04.280 --> 01:05:06.460
to an insane asylum. No, he went to an insane

01:05:06.460 --> 01:05:09.320
asylum first. Yeah. And then got on coke afterwards

01:05:09.320 --> 01:05:12.699
because he quit alcohol. Yeah. Yeah, okay. Kind

01:05:12.699 --> 01:05:15.480
of messed up. Yeah, what a story, though. And

01:05:15.480 --> 01:05:18.340
he's born again. Christian, that is, is he PGA?

01:05:18.639 --> 01:05:22.420
He's PGA rated, isn't he? I think he is. Yeah,

01:05:22.480 --> 01:05:24.139
he's really good at golfing. He is really good.

01:05:24.480 --> 01:05:27.360
So, almost got to meet him, but he went golfing

01:05:27.360 --> 01:05:31.340
instead. I was lucky enough to receive a backstage

01:05:31.340 --> 01:05:36.300
pass, and the guy came out like 40 minutes later.

01:05:36.340 --> 01:05:39.639
He said, Alice is sorry, but he had a golf date.

01:05:40.260 --> 01:05:44.599
Yeah. I was able to leave birthday wishes on

01:05:44.599 --> 01:05:47.519
his phone once. Oh, you were? Yeah, a bass player

01:05:47.519 --> 01:05:51.960
friend of mine had met Alice through his uncle,

01:05:52.059 --> 01:05:54.900
who was also in show business. And he said, what

01:05:54.900 --> 01:05:56.980
a lot of people don't know is Alice's phone is

01:05:56.980 --> 01:06:00.099
in his mother's name. So if you look at Alice

01:06:00.099 --> 01:06:01.960
Cooper in the phone book, it's not there. But

01:06:01.960 --> 01:06:06.260
if you look up Furnier. And so he said, I've

01:06:06.260 --> 01:06:09.260
got that number. So we called. It was Marge Furnier.

01:06:09.280 --> 01:06:11.480
Yeah, I guess so. Marge Furnier. Margaret Furnier.

01:06:11.840 --> 01:06:15.559
So we called, and I wished him a happy birthday.

01:06:17.679 --> 01:06:19.300
He had to have checked the message. Somebody

01:06:19.300 --> 01:06:21.420
checked that message and heard my voice wishing

01:06:21.420 --> 01:06:23.280
him happy birthday. So that's the closest I've

01:06:23.280 --> 01:06:25.699
come to him. Wow, that's kind of cool. That's

01:06:25.699 --> 01:06:28.019
really cool. I don't even know the number. The

01:06:28.019 --> 01:06:30.260
guy dialed it and handed me the phone. He said,

01:06:30.320 --> 01:06:32.239
I'm not giving you the number. Oh, damn it. But

01:06:32.239 --> 01:06:33.739
I'm going to dial it and hand you the phone.

01:06:34.059 --> 01:06:39.320
He knew better. Yes, he did. Alice, I play drums.

01:06:39.440 --> 01:06:41.440
I want to be your drummer. Please hire me right

01:06:41.440 --> 01:06:45.869
now. I wish you a happy birthday. Oh, I would

01:06:45.869 --> 01:06:48.929
have been such a fucking mark. Oh, yeah. Well,

01:06:50.789 --> 01:06:52.789
I've got a story on the guitars, the electric

01:06:52.789 --> 01:06:55.949
guitars of the former Soviet Union. I love it.

01:06:55.989 --> 01:07:00.710
Or the USSR. Yes. Or the Iron Curtain. Yes. Or

01:07:00.710 --> 01:07:02.590
all the countries that they invaded and took

01:07:02.590 --> 01:07:05.590
over but then split up later. Yes. So, go ahead,

01:07:05.630 --> 01:07:09.280
please. And there's some of these... Some were

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.820
imported into the USSR from Czechoslovakia and

01:07:12.820 --> 01:07:19.000
East Germany. Back in the USSR. The first brand

01:07:19.000 --> 01:07:22.519
we have is Tonika. T -O -N -I -K -A. You should

01:07:22.519 --> 01:07:24.619
look that up on your phone. It's a pretty freaking

01:07:24.619 --> 01:07:27.679
ugly looking guitar. I imagine everything that

01:07:27.679 --> 01:07:30.940
went to the Soviet Union was probably ugly. Because

01:07:30.940 --> 01:07:33.159
back then, they didn't have anything pretty,

01:07:33.260 --> 01:07:37.860
including their leaders. Tonika? T -O -N -I -K

01:07:37.860 --> 01:07:41.949
-A. T -O -N -I -N -K. Okay. I -K -A. I -K -A.

01:07:42.989 --> 01:07:45.969
What's typical of the Soviet era guitars? Odd

01:07:45.969 --> 01:07:49.750
body shapes, dull finishes, unattractive colors,

01:07:49.989 --> 01:07:53.489
too many switches, mass produced but still mostly

01:07:53.489 --> 01:07:56.710
handmade, wiring harnesses that look like the

01:07:56.710 --> 01:07:59.630
inside of a 1950s radio but just without the

01:07:59.630 --> 01:08:03.849
tubes. It seems like a lot of these bodies were

01:08:03.849 --> 01:08:08.590
made from scrap pieces of wood. It's like, we've

01:08:08.590 --> 01:08:10.469
got this, yeah, isn't that an ugly piece of shit?

01:08:10.750 --> 01:08:16.670
Yeah. You can buy one for $261. Yep. But doesn't

01:08:16.670 --> 01:08:18.630
it look like they just had a bunch of scrap wood,

01:08:18.750 --> 01:08:20.390
and they said, let's just cut a few corners off

01:08:20.390 --> 01:08:23.189
and make a guitar body out of it. You know whenever

01:08:23.189 --> 01:08:26.819
you puke and there's just a little blotch? Yeah.

01:08:26.859 --> 01:08:28.479
That's what it looks like. That is what it looks

01:08:28.479 --> 01:08:32.079
like. The neck is a little string of saliva and

01:08:32.079 --> 01:08:34.220
then there's a little splat that could be vomit

01:08:34.220 --> 01:08:36.779
or bird poop or baby poop or something. That's

01:08:36.779 --> 01:08:38.539
exactly what it looks like. It's pretty awful.

01:08:38.819 --> 01:08:41.760
Or a splatter of diarrhea on the bottom of the

01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:45.619
stool. That was flat ugly. Everyone should look

01:08:45.619 --> 01:08:48.060
up the Tonica guitar. It's awesome. Yeah, if

01:08:48.060 --> 01:08:50.020
you want to bomb it, there you go. Now, they

01:08:50.020 --> 01:08:52.399
were made mostly in Leningrad, but also in some

01:08:52.399 --> 01:08:54.640
various other factories. Considered one of the

01:08:54.640 --> 01:08:56.720
first mass -produced Soviet electric guitars

01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:59.979
starting in the late 60s. Known for unconventional,

01:08:59.979 --> 01:09:05.319
bizarre body shapes and birch bodies. Pretty

01:09:05.319 --> 01:09:07.760
much all Soviet -era guitars are known for having

01:09:07.760 --> 01:09:12.520
unusual and challenging tone circuits. So the

01:09:12.520 --> 01:09:16.939
volume and tone, and then a lot of them had just

01:09:16.939 --> 01:09:20.460
bunches of switches and balance knobs, just all

01:09:20.460 --> 01:09:24.159
sorts of bizarre stuff. And I went to a website

01:09:24.159 --> 01:09:26.359
called Cheesy Guitars where he did some deep

01:09:26.359 --> 01:09:28.659
dives on this, and he said there's one he has

01:09:28.659 --> 01:09:31.779
that I've looked over all this wiring and stuff.

01:09:31.880 --> 01:09:34.380
I can't figure out what it is or what it does.

01:09:34.539 --> 01:09:37.619
It's just incomprehensible. I just can't figure

01:09:37.619 --> 01:09:43.560
this mess out. Another brand, Ural, U -R -A -L,

01:09:43.680 --> 01:09:46.579
made in Sverdlovsk and the Katerinaberg. Okay.

01:09:46.840 --> 01:09:49.520
This was the most common Soviet electric guitar.

01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:52.659
The Ural 650 was produced in a furniture factory.

01:09:52.920 --> 01:09:57.060
Uh -huh. Red to green sunburst finish and high

01:09:57.060 --> 01:10:02.460
output pickups. Very heavy, a round fretboard.

01:10:02.560 --> 01:10:05.119
You know how the fretboard where you press the

01:10:05.119 --> 01:10:07.199
strings down, it's mostly flat, but it has a

01:10:07.199 --> 01:10:09.479
little bit of curve to it? Yeah. This is about

01:10:09.479 --> 01:10:14.779
as round as, like, shower curtain rod. Okay.

01:10:15.359 --> 01:10:18.279
And it's, like, incredibly hard to play because

01:10:18.279 --> 01:10:21.060
you have to wrap your fingers around the end

01:10:21.060 --> 01:10:23.159
of the board, then around that edge of the board.

01:10:23.640 --> 01:10:26.420
What the... It's too... They made it circular

01:10:26.420 --> 01:10:29.060
like that because that made it very sturdy and

01:10:29.060 --> 01:10:31.920
very unlikely to break, especially during manufacturing.

01:10:31.920 --> 01:10:33.319
They knew nothing about music, did they? They

01:10:33.319 --> 01:10:38.680
did not. They absolutely did not. Okay. The tone

01:10:38.680 --> 01:10:42.859
circuit had built -in effects, stereo outputs,

01:10:43.279 --> 01:10:47.300
switchable circuits, and pretty much most of

01:10:47.300 --> 01:10:50.319
these electronic parts were designed by radio

01:10:50.319 --> 01:10:53.520
manufacturers. So they used these big, heavy,

01:10:53.539 --> 01:10:58.079
robust radio parts, and they'd have no idea how

01:10:58.079 --> 01:11:01.000
electric guitar electronics worked. They said,

01:11:01.119 --> 01:11:02.539
oh, well, it's like a radio. We'll just make

01:11:02.539 --> 01:11:04.659
it like a radio. So they all sounded like shit.

01:11:06.819 --> 01:11:10.760
The Aelita, A -E -L -I -T -A, was mostly built

01:11:10.760 --> 01:11:15.439
in Rostov -on -Don. Produced in the 1970s, influenced

01:11:15.439 --> 01:11:18.239
by Japanese Taisco designs, particularly the

01:11:18.239 --> 01:11:23.960
Aelita II. Again, odd body shapes, bizarre tone

01:11:23.960 --> 01:11:28.300
circuits. It was one of the ones that sold for

01:11:28.300 --> 01:11:30.619
a little more because it wasn't quite as ugly

01:11:30.619 --> 01:11:34.739
as the others. It's almost like they wanted to

01:11:34.739 --> 01:11:38.840
discourage making music. Yeah, yeah. Initially,

01:11:39.880 --> 01:11:42.020
the Soviet Union was like, rock music is evil,

01:11:42.100 --> 01:11:44.680
it's corrupt, it's awful. But then they realized,

01:11:44.819 --> 01:11:47.060
well, there's money to be made, so let's do the

01:11:47.060 --> 01:11:50.060
Soviet version of it. The communism is you take

01:11:50.060 --> 01:11:54.239
all the joy out of life. Music is joy. Yes. Well,

01:11:54.260 --> 01:11:56.920
these guitars were ugly and heavy, so that would

01:11:56.920 --> 01:11:58.880
remove a lot of the joy of actually playing.

01:11:59.039 --> 01:12:01.920
Yes, that's what it was. You don't make life

01:12:01.920 --> 01:12:07.260
enjoyable, so we control you. Okay, Formanta

01:12:07.260 --> 01:12:11.600
guitars made in Borisov. Known for the Formanta

01:12:11.600 --> 01:12:14.500
Solo II, which featured built -in effects such

01:12:14.500 --> 01:12:17.220
as fuzz. Imagine having fuzz built into your

01:12:17.220 --> 01:12:20.260
guitar. You could never play anything clean.

01:12:20.619 --> 01:12:23.710
If you ever wanted a different fuzz. You're stuck

01:12:23.710 --> 01:12:27.930
with this one. Yeah. That makes no sense, but

01:12:27.930 --> 01:12:31.050
okay, just like the rest of their stuff. But

01:12:31.050 --> 01:12:33.229
for the time, it had a fairly advanced tremolo

01:12:33.229 --> 01:12:36.350
system. Okay, now we're talking tremolo, yeah.

01:12:36.649 --> 01:12:39.750
Formanta refers to a prominent Soviet -era manufacturer

01:12:39.750 --> 01:12:44.229
which made the Kachkana radio plant, is where

01:12:44.229 --> 01:12:46.869
they're made, known for producing unique, rugged

01:12:46.869 --> 01:12:49.689
analog synthesizers, drum machines, and guitars

01:12:49.689 --> 01:12:53.430
from the 1970s to the 1990s. Analog? Its most

01:12:53.430 --> 01:12:56.989
iconic product includes the Polyvox synthesizer

01:12:56.989 --> 01:13:00.350
and the Formanta UDS drum machine, often characterized

01:13:00.350 --> 01:13:03.829
by military -grade components, distinctive harsh

01:13:03.829 --> 01:13:06.229
sounds, and distinctive cyrillic interfaces,

01:13:06.470 --> 01:13:11.250
which is the Russian alphabet. Now, some of their

01:13:11.250 --> 01:13:14.109
key instruments, they had the Polyvox synth from

01:13:14.109 --> 01:13:18.229
82 to 90, a famous duophonic synthesizer with

01:13:18.229 --> 01:13:21.149
two oscillators, which meant you could play two

01:13:21.149 --> 01:13:24.909
notes at once. Yeah. Because before then, synthesizers

01:13:24.909 --> 01:13:28.470
were monophonic. You'd play one note, and if

01:13:28.470 --> 01:13:30.689
you played any other note, only the lower note

01:13:30.689 --> 01:13:35.390
would sound. But this also had a highly aggressive

01:13:35.390 --> 01:13:40.130
filter, similar to the Polyvox, and it was often

01:13:40.130 --> 01:13:42.869
used for industrial sounds. It didn't make pretty

01:13:42.869 --> 01:13:49.239
music. The Formanta UDS Rockton. A drum synthesizer

01:13:49.239 --> 01:13:51.659
with five assignable voices known for producing

01:13:51.659 --> 01:13:55.140
bleeps, clangs, and punchy dry sounds, often

01:13:55.140 --> 01:13:58.340
described as a Soviet counterpart to the TR -909.

01:13:59.600 --> 01:14:03.239
That's like the real early days of electronic

01:14:03.239 --> 01:14:05.100
drums where they didn't even sound like drums.

01:14:05.960 --> 01:14:09.840
The Formanta EMS -01, a hybrid instrument combining

01:14:09.840 --> 01:14:13.840
a five -octic polyphonic organ and a monophonic

01:14:13.840 --> 01:14:16.300
synthesizer. So the organ part, you could play

01:14:16.300 --> 01:14:19.149
chords. Synthesizer part, you can just play one

01:14:19.149 --> 01:14:25.010
note at a time leads. Wow. The Formanta Quintet,

01:14:25.130 --> 01:14:28.409
which is labeled the Covintet, an analog string

01:14:28.409 --> 01:14:32.470
slash brass synthesizer with utilitarian design.

01:14:33.710 --> 01:14:37.909
Okay. Formanta guitars, various electric guitar

01:14:37.909 --> 01:14:40.409
models, such as the Formanta Solo II, offering

01:14:40.409 --> 01:14:43.229
featuring unique, sometimes hard -to -play designs.

01:14:43.689 --> 01:14:49.220
I think so, yeah. Other gear includes the Formanta

01:14:49.220 --> 01:14:53.239
Echo, which is a spring reverb, and Artan vocoders.

01:14:54.520 --> 01:14:56.920
And actually, nowadays, Formanta instruments

01:14:56.920 --> 01:15:00.340
are prized and highly sought after, especially

01:15:00.340 --> 01:15:02.939
the electronic music production for their unique

01:15:02.939 --> 01:15:07.260
character and distorted sound. A lot of times

01:15:07.260 --> 01:15:09.899
they require restoration, like most of the capacitors

01:15:09.899 --> 01:15:12.380
are all dried up and need to be replaced. Okay.

01:15:13.079 --> 01:15:17.149
But the Polyvox synthesizer... In good condition,

01:15:17.250 --> 01:15:21.710
we'll bring you $1 ,000 to $3 ,000. Wow. The

01:15:21.710 --> 01:15:24.810
UDS drum machine will be in the $250 to $600

01:15:24.810 --> 01:15:28.390
range, and the guitars are typically in the $300

01:15:28.390 --> 01:15:32.369
to $400 range, even though they all need a lot

01:15:32.369 --> 01:15:35.130
of maintenance. You buy it for $300 or $400,

01:15:35.329 --> 01:15:37.449
but it won't play. You have to go fix it and

01:15:37.449 --> 01:15:39.210
change everything, but people still want them.

01:15:39.430 --> 01:15:43.520
Yeah. Next up, we have Stella. A hi -fi model,

01:15:43.779 --> 01:15:47.859
often featuring four split stereo pickups. Four.

01:15:48.319 --> 01:15:54.060
And each one could be split left and right. Okay.

01:15:54.180 --> 01:15:56.659
Isn't that weird? Yeah. Complex electronics.

01:15:56.800 --> 01:15:59.420
A butcher block style body instead of plywood.

01:15:59.699 --> 01:16:03.579
So is it phenomenally heavy. Covered in caustic

01:16:03.579 --> 01:16:07.579
and possibly carcinogenic plastic. A terrible

01:16:07.579 --> 01:16:10.819
build quality. made in an accordion factory.

01:16:11.779 --> 01:16:16.960
Even worse. Its wiring is undecipherable. And

01:16:16.960 --> 01:16:21.279
even though it's supposed to be stereo, the pickups

01:16:21.279 --> 01:16:23.640
are split left and right. The top three strings,

01:16:23.840 --> 01:16:27.439
the wound ones, would be on one pickup, and the

01:16:27.439 --> 01:16:28.979
bottom three strings would be on a different

01:16:28.979 --> 01:16:33.119
pickup. So it's split left and right. These three

01:16:33.119 --> 01:16:34.619
strings would be on the left and those three

01:16:34.619 --> 01:16:36.180
strings would be on the right. Just a horrible

01:16:36.180 --> 01:16:38.199
way to split them. And they would split phase

01:16:38.199 --> 01:16:44.359
that way too. But they put mono parts into the

01:16:44.359 --> 01:16:47.180
stereo wiring circuit, which completely defeated

01:16:47.180 --> 01:16:49.359
the stereo capabilities and the balance control

01:16:49.359 --> 01:16:53.960
just did nothing. So right from the factory...

01:16:53.960 --> 01:16:55.359
Okay, that doesn't make any sense at all. Right

01:16:55.359 --> 01:16:57.920
from the factory it didn't work. Because they

01:16:57.920 --> 01:17:00.760
put mono parts into a stereo circuit. okay so

01:17:00.760 --> 01:17:03.840
they were idiots they were idiots okay that explains

01:17:03.840 --> 01:17:06.899
it it wasn't taking joy out another like yeah

01:17:06.899 --> 01:17:11.300
they're just flat stupid okay uh there's another

01:17:11.300 --> 01:17:14.520
one orpheus that were built in the bulgaria and

01:17:14.520 --> 01:17:17.039
i could find almost nothing on this because several

01:17:17.039 --> 01:17:19.119
other manufacturers have used the name since

01:17:19.119 --> 01:17:22.300
and all i was getting was their results all i

01:17:22.300 --> 01:17:24.560
could find out it was known for distinctive often

01:17:24.560 --> 01:17:29.930
sunburst finished offset designs So, not symmetrical.

01:17:30.729 --> 01:17:34.390
Okay. Then overall, it said these guitars often

01:17:34.390 --> 01:17:37.390
used furniture -grade materials, heavy polyester

01:17:37.390 --> 01:17:41.750
varnishes, and DIN pin outputs. Instead of a

01:17:41.750 --> 01:17:44.210
quarter -inch jack like we plug in, they had,

01:17:44.250 --> 01:17:46.609
like, multi -pin outputs. You have to have a

01:17:46.609 --> 01:17:48.590
special cord, and they're generally pretty fragile.

01:17:48.850 --> 01:17:52.069
Okay. They were designed for affordability and

01:17:52.069 --> 01:17:54.989
durability within the USSR rather than for high

01:17:54.989 --> 01:17:58.250
-fidelity performance. Other notable often imported

01:17:58.250 --> 01:18:00.989
or block produced brands popular to USR include

01:18:00.989 --> 01:18:04.470
Jolana from Czechoslovakia and Musima from East

01:18:04.470 --> 01:18:08.970
Germany. Yep. And you can still buy a lot of

01:18:08.970 --> 01:18:12.149
these guitars today. Yeah, I could have bought

01:18:12.149 --> 01:18:16.069
the first one, I forgot the name of it, for $360.

01:18:16.810 --> 01:18:19.510
The Tonica. Yeah, the Tonica. I could have bought

01:18:19.510 --> 01:18:23.390
that for $360 and have it delivered probably

01:18:23.390 --> 01:18:25.890
in a couple of days. There was one guy who bought...

01:18:26.359 --> 01:18:29.939
Just a loaded pickguard. So it was the picks,

01:18:30.060 --> 01:18:31.859
I mean, it was the pickups and all the electronics

01:18:31.859 --> 01:18:35.020
and knobs, etc. And then he found a picture of

01:18:35.020 --> 01:18:40.399
the guitar body and then drew one and cut it

01:18:40.399 --> 01:18:43.359
out and fashioned it from scratch. And then he's

01:18:43.359 --> 01:18:45.520
going to find half the neck to stick on. So he's

01:18:45.520 --> 01:18:47.140
going to try to make it look like the original,

01:18:47.300 --> 01:18:50.180
but all he had was the electronics part. Oh,

01:18:50.220 --> 01:18:51.899
wow. He could probably get away with it, too.

01:18:51.899 --> 01:18:54.659
Nobody knows enough. Really? How about some bullet

01:18:54.659 --> 01:18:59.430
points? Love them. All righty. Bands don't brag

01:18:59.430 --> 01:19:03.130
about womanizing anymore. No, they don't. Why

01:19:03.130 --> 01:19:05.729
is that? I think it's pretty obvious, but...

01:19:05.729 --> 01:19:11.970
Oh, well, it's not seen as cool or conquest anymore.

01:19:12.310 --> 01:19:16.850
No. That was more common back in the days when

01:19:16.850 --> 01:19:22.090
young women were considered not really complete...

01:19:22.390 --> 01:19:24.670
full human beings that they were, you know, oh,

01:19:24.689 --> 01:19:26.869
it's okay to abuse them and do whatever you want.

01:19:26.909 --> 01:19:29.149
They're just women. Yeah. That kind of attitude.

01:19:29.550 --> 01:19:36.090
Uh -huh. And then the advent of HIV made it less

01:19:36.090 --> 01:19:37.329
than cool to be sleeping around a lot. That's

01:19:37.329 --> 01:19:39.409
when everybody really started putting on the

01:19:39.409 --> 01:19:45.270
brakes. Yeah. Yeah. But I think mostly people

01:19:45.270 --> 01:19:47.590
realized that when they bragged about it, either

01:19:47.590 --> 01:19:51.159
people didn't care or actively disliked it. Yeah,

01:19:51.180 --> 01:19:53.500
you're right. It's one or the other. So it wasn't

01:19:53.500 --> 01:19:56.020
chic anymore to go, I did this, I did that. People

01:19:56.020 --> 01:20:00.199
were like, you're a rock star. Yeah, it's not

01:20:00.199 --> 01:20:02.260
even cool anymore to talk about how much you

01:20:02.260 --> 01:20:04.560
drank the night before. No, it isn't. That's

01:20:04.560 --> 01:20:08.800
just considered bad form. Well, kind of along

01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:10.760
the same lines, one of the best answers I've

01:20:10.760 --> 01:20:13.739
ever heard was, when Ozzy got busted cheating

01:20:13.739 --> 01:20:16.069
with a hairdresser. And he'd come out and he

01:20:16.069 --> 01:20:17.689
goes, I'm a rock star. That's what I'm supposed

01:20:17.689 --> 01:20:20.329
to fucking do. Yep. It was the greatest comment

01:20:20.329 --> 01:20:24.689
ever. Pretty much. Everyone's like, uh, okay.

01:20:24.970 --> 01:20:28.949
Got us there. That was it. Yeah, there was certain

01:20:28.949 --> 01:20:31.649
behavior we expected from rock stars. Yes. But

01:20:31.649 --> 01:20:33.390
now it's totally different. Yeah, and I think

01:20:33.390 --> 01:20:35.750
also it's the redundancy. It's like, yeah, and,

01:20:35.949 --> 01:20:39.390
you know, you go to concerts, I mean, and you

01:20:39.390 --> 01:20:42.729
always see, even at Jerry Cantrell. There were

01:20:42.729 --> 01:20:45.170
groupies there. We saw them, you know. They're

01:20:45.170 --> 01:20:47.210
dressed up like groupies and up there, you know,

01:20:47.210 --> 01:20:49.489
hovering around. Yep. And they just looked like

01:20:49.489 --> 01:20:52.229
such cliches. Yes. Just so ridiculous. They looked

01:20:52.229 --> 01:20:54.310
out of time. Yeah. And that's another thing,

01:20:54.350 --> 01:20:57.810
too, is they're easy pickings. So nobody cares.

01:20:58.149 --> 01:21:00.529
Yeah. If they didn't get the band, another guy

01:21:00.529 --> 01:21:02.170
with long hair would have got her. Yeah. And

01:21:02.170 --> 01:21:05.010
that's it. So I think that's all that together

01:21:05.010 --> 01:21:10.050
is like big fucking deal. Do they not do it because

01:21:10.050 --> 01:21:14.170
it's frowned upon? That's part of it. Yeah. They

01:21:14.170 --> 01:21:15.989
may still do it. They just don't brag about it.

01:21:16.010 --> 01:21:17.850
Exactly. That's what I'm saying is they still

01:21:17.850 --> 01:21:20.649
do it, but they're not going to openly tell you.

01:21:20.869 --> 01:21:23.829
Yeah. Yeah. But at the same time, I think there

01:21:23.829 --> 01:21:26.810
are a lot more musicians that no longer feel

01:21:26.810 --> 01:21:30.909
the social pressure to cheat. And it's like,

01:21:30.970 --> 01:21:32.670
oh, well, you know, I'm supposed to because the

01:21:32.670 --> 01:21:34.430
guys will expect, they'll think I'm a weenie

01:21:34.430 --> 01:21:37.949
if I don't anymore. Most people are like, yeah,

01:21:37.970 --> 01:21:39.729
I don't care what you think about me in private.

01:21:40.319 --> 01:21:43.220
I'm worried about my public image. And then in

01:21:43.220 --> 01:21:45.479
private, I'm going to live my life, and I'm not

01:21:45.479 --> 01:21:46.979
going to do it just because you expect me to.

01:21:47.260 --> 01:21:50.439
Jon Bon Jovi kind of hurt his image because when

01:21:50.439 --> 01:21:52.680
people found out he married his high school sweetheart

01:21:52.680 --> 01:21:55.949
and was faithful, they're kind of like a... That's

01:21:55.949 --> 01:21:58.430
not a rock star. This is back, you know, 80s.

01:21:58.430 --> 01:22:00.510
Yeah, he started seeming a little toothless and

01:22:00.510 --> 01:22:02.850
plain. Yeah, I'd be like, I don't like that.

01:22:02.909 --> 01:22:05.130
I want him doing stupid shit. Yeah, I want some

01:22:05.130 --> 01:22:07.369
tough guy out there swaggering and risking his

01:22:07.369 --> 01:22:09.430
life every night and winning the girl in the

01:22:09.430 --> 01:22:12.149
end and being everything that I wish I could

01:22:12.149 --> 01:22:15.029
be kind of thing. Calculated businessman, and

01:22:15.029 --> 01:22:17.289
people didn't like that. I mean, he did very

01:22:17.289 --> 01:22:20.210
well still. Yeah, people want to live vicariously

01:22:20.210 --> 01:22:23.460
through their rock stars. You know, there's tons

01:22:23.460 --> 01:22:25.859
of people out there looking at Taylor Swift and

01:22:25.859 --> 01:22:28.199
wishing they could live her life for a day or

01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:29.380
a week or a month. That's one of the biggest

01:22:29.380 --> 01:22:34.079
allures of it among younger is living vicariously

01:22:34.079 --> 01:22:36.479
through them. Yeah. Yeah, and putting yourself

01:22:36.479 --> 01:22:40.399
up there. Yeah. Wow, that'd be so cool. All right,

01:22:40.479 --> 01:22:44.680
next one. Was the Who or Pink Floyd a bigger

01:22:44.680 --> 01:22:49.600
radio success? I think the Who was. I think so,

01:22:49.659 --> 01:22:53.720
too. Because The Who is heard on virtually every

01:22:53.720 --> 01:22:59.159
classic rock station around. Pink Floyd has gotten

01:22:59.159 --> 01:23:01.960
better about it, but I think The Who has actually

01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:04.899
been a lot more prolific on radio. Maybe not

01:23:04.899 --> 01:23:07.680
sales -wise, I'm not for sure. Yeah, The Who

01:23:07.680 --> 01:23:09.840
definitely wrote more radio -friendly stuff.

01:23:10.619 --> 01:23:14.939
Pink Floyd, some of their best music was... too

01:23:14.939 --> 01:23:18.479
long for radio. Yeah, yeah. You only heard it

01:23:18.479 --> 01:23:20.579
late at night when Vaughn Mack had to take a

01:23:20.579 --> 01:23:26.819
dump. Yeah. Googling. And his all -night rock

01:23:26.819 --> 01:23:29.479
and roll cafe, remember? Oh, that's right, yeah.

01:23:30.300 --> 01:23:33.500
I goofed on one thing on this. It still selected

01:23:33.500 --> 01:23:35.520
the previous recording, so it's going to stop

01:23:35.520 --> 01:23:38.399
this recording when the previous one ends. I

01:23:38.399 --> 01:23:40.279
think I'm going to try to see if I can bypass

01:23:40.279 --> 01:23:44.159
this thing on the second. Okay. Okay, that worked.

01:23:44.420 --> 01:23:47.239
Okay, all right. We are back. That would have

01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.060
cut off in about five minutes and stopped recording

01:23:50.060 --> 01:23:54.100
because of the program I'm using. We've had to

01:23:54.100 --> 01:23:56.439
redo some bits before. If you look over at the

01:23:56.439 --> 01:23:58.000
damn thing, it's great recording. It's like,

01:23:58.060 --> 01:24:00.520
shit, we've got to recreate the last ten minutes.

01:24:00.920 --> 01:24:06.619
Yep. Yeah, and I'm glad you caught it. It's so

01:24:06.619 --> 01:24:13.260
good. All right. Have you heard Tony Iommi music

01:24:13.260 --> 01:24:16.359
before he had his finger accident? No, I haven't.

01:24:16.399 --> 01:24:19.760
I have, only in Jethro Tull. And it was like

01:24:19.760 --> 01:24:22.680
a recording that wasn't that well. But he was

01:24:22.680 --> 01:24:25.000
surprisingly normal sounding. But he was also

01:24:25.000 --> 01:24:26.779
in a band where he was like, you're going to

01:24:26.779 --> 01:24:29.800
play this or that. True, true. He really couldn't.

01:24:30.220 --> 01:24:34.500
Whoa. What? Right behind you there, there was

01:24:34.500 --> 01:24:37.640
a high -speed chase going on. Oh, really? And

01:24:37.640 --> 01:24:41.000
the cop threw out the stop sticks. But he didn't

01:24:41.000 --> 01:24:43.760
make it. Oh, damn it. He threw him out not quite

01:24:43.760 --> 01:24:46.060
in time. The car went right past him. Man, that

01:24:46.060 --> 01:24:49.159
car was flying. The little white car looked like

01:24:49.159 --> 01:24:52.199
it was going three times the speed limit. And

01:24:52.199 --> 01:24:55.859
I've seen four cop cars go after it. Wow. There's

01:24:55.859 --> 01:24:58.319
a street right behind you there. If he keeps

01:24:58.319 --> 01:25:00.180
going that way, he's going to run out of real

01:25:00.180 --> 01:25:02.439
estate. He doesn't know it. There goes the fifth

01:25:02.439 --> 01:25:05.539
one. There goes the fifth car. I wonder if this

01:25:05.539 --> 01:25:07.439
will actually make the news. Half of this stuff

01:25:07.439 --> 01:25:10.500
he never gets on the news. No, I know. Damn it.

01:25:10.880 --> 01:25:13.680
Yeah, I saw that cop stop, and he came out with

01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:16.819
these long, like, black things, and then he threw

01:25:16.819 --> 01:25:18.640
them out, and just as he threw them out, this

01:25:18.640 --> 01:25:24.399
car went zoom. Just a blur. Damn. I hope he keeps

01:25:24.399 --> 01:25:26.640
going east, because he's going to run up at the

01:25:26.640 --> 01:25:29.619
river. Yeah. And it's going to be done. He's

01:25:29.619 --> 01:25:32.100
probably thinking, oh, escape into Kansas. Kansas

01:25:32.100 --> 01:25:36.760
is the other way. Yeah. Oops. He's going to go,

01:25:36.840 --> 01:25:40.130
is this the Kansas River? Oh, no. Oh, no. But

01:25:40.130 --> 01:25:42.949
good news, you keep driving for about five hours,

01:25:43.010 --> 01:25:45.130
you reach Illinois. That's true. Yeah, yeah.

01:25:45.270 --> 01:25:51.609
So just jump in. Jump in, grab a log. Oh, my

01:25:51.609 --> 01:25:56.569
gosh. What was the best band name ever? Oh, I

01:25:56.569 --> 01:25:58.710
like the Dead Kennedys pretty well. Oh, I do,

01:25:58.750 --> 01:26:06.090
too. Yeah. Let's see. Dead Kennedys is a good

01:26:06.090 --> 01:26:11.090
one. Yeah. Let's see. You know, as far as the

01:26:11.090 --> 01:26:14.449
punk era, the musicians' names were often better

01:26:14.449 --> 01:26:16.689
than the band's names. They were, yeah. Johnny

01:26:16.689 --> 01:26:20.470
Rotten, Sid Vicious, you know. Yeah. I mean,

01:26:20.489 --> 01:26:22.529
the band names were cool. You had X -Raced Bags

01:26:22.529 --> 01:26:27.270
and The Slits. The Slits. Yeah. The Cramps. Yes,

01:26:27.289 --> 01:26:31.550
The Cramps was good. Yep. Oh, shit. Yeah, there's

01:26:31.550 --> 01:26:40.159
so many. All right. There's other bands too.

01:26:40.260 --> 01:26:42.720
I mean, Aerosmith I thought was a genius name

01:26:42.720 --> 01:26:47.680
because it kind of made its own thing, you know.

01:26:47.699 --> 01:26:49.979
It was like Aerosmith. It's not really a name.

01:26:50.300 --> 01:26:53.399
Yeah, it kind of brought in like airplanes and

01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:57.890
basically a blacksmith or some sort of. creation

01:26:57.890 --> 01:27:00.789
process or something. I like the Smithereens.

01:27:00.890 --> 01:27:02.909
I think that's a great band name. That was good.

01:27:03.270 --> 01:27:05.390
I thought the Replacements was a pretty clever

01:27:05.390 --> 01:27:09.130
name. That is good. Let's see. GNR or Guns N'

01:27:09.189 --> 01:27:11.149
Roses I think is a good name. Motley Crue is

01:27:11.149 --> 01:27:14.590
a good name. Yeah. Motorhead. I always love that

01:27:14.590 --> 01:27:18.829
name. Yeah, yeah. Let's see. There was a local

01:27:18.829 --> 01:27:21.890
band called Just In Case. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah,

01:27:21.890 --> 01:27:24.479
yeah. How about Black 7? Black Sabbath is also

01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:26.600
excellent. Deep Purple is a great name. Yeah.

01:27:29.000 --> 01:27:33.199
Super Tramp. Yeah, and I mean, that was, with

01:27:33.199 --> 01:27:35.380
the name Super Tramp, you have no idea how the

01:27:35.380 --> 01:27:37.640
music is supposed to sound. No, I know. And that's

01:27:37.640 --> 01:27:39.500
the way the music was, too. It's like, what is

01:27:39.500 --> 01:27:42.739
this? Yeah. It's good, but it's weird in that

01:27:42.739 --> 01:27:46.500
voice, the singer, you know. Yeah. Yeah. Okay,

01:27:46.739 --> 01:27:51.340
Abba. That was pretty clever. oh okay this is

01:27:51.340 --> 01:27:55.380
the next oh okay yeah it's a polydrome yeah yeah

01:27:55.380 --> 01:27:58.760
either way were they pompous or true to themselves

01:27:58.760 --> 01:28:04.779
but abba is a good name yeah it is you know i

01:28:04.779 --> 01:28:08.319
watched uh a documentary that was mostly focused

01:28:08.319 --> 01:28:13.079
on the blonde gerbil um yeah pretty much the

01:28:13.079 --> 01:28:17.810
focal yeah yeah And when they started out, they

01:28:17.810 --> 01:28:19.810
seemed like they were just being pretty genuine

01:28:19.810 --> 01:28:22.189
and having a lot of fun. And this is just really,

01:28:22.210 --> 01:28:24.609
you know, the kind of music they liked. And then,

01:28:24.689 --> 01:28:27.489
you know, the record label would find the producer

01:28:27.489 --> 01:28:30.470
to give it that immense, massive, thick sound.

01:28:31.090 --> 01:28:33.470
Four Non Blondes is another great name. Yes,

01:28:33.550 --> 01:28:36.409
that was another good name. Nine Inch Nails.

01:28:36.789 --> 01:28:40.329
Yeah. Great name. Yeah. And when there were,

01:28:40.350 --> 01:28:41.989
you know, of course, when Nine Inch Nails got

01:28:41.989 --> 01:28:43.590
popular, there were a bunch of bands that tried

01:28:43.590 --> 01:28:45.770
to copy them. And they were collectively known

01:28:45.770 --> 01:28:51.069
as 8 -inch nails. Yes. Some of them were 4 -inch.

01:28:51.170 --> 01:28:55.170
Yes. And I remember the guitar player in the

01:28:55.170 --> 01:28:57.189
band I was in at the time, John Axford, he got

01:28:57.189 --> 01:29:01.930
a hat that said 9 -inch male. You have 9 -inch

01:29:01.930 --> 01:29:04.949
nails? I'm a 9 -inch male. There you go. Much

01:29:04.949 --> 01:29:10.340
better name. So, okay, the ABBA. You're going

01:29:10.340 --> 01:29:12.859
somewhere with that, I think, right? Yeah, they

01:29:12.859 --> 01:29:18.739
seem pretty genuine and true to themselves. Disco

01:29:18.739 --> 01:29:21.279
was big, dance music was big. It was pretty much

01:29:21.279 --> 01:29:24.100
music that was designed to be danced to. It was

01:29:24.100 --> 01:29:26.939
listenable, you could just sit and listen to

01:29:26.939 --> 01:29:28.939
it, but primarily they wanted you to listen to

01:29:28.939 --> 01:29:31.060
it while you were dancing. Yeah, and it was.

01:29:31.119 --> 01:29:36.399
It was dance music, not so much... listening

01:29:36.399 --> 01:29:38.300
to music, but you could if you wanted to. It

01:29:38.300 --> 01:29:43.720
was decent. What band is the biggest phonies

01:29:43.720 --> 01:29:48.060
of all time? Pink Floyd. Yeah, Pink Floyd would

01:29:48.060 --> 01:29:51.680
be a good one. An obvious one like the Monkees

01:29:51.680 --> 01:29:53.640
and the Partridge family. They were fake to begin

01:29:53.640 --> 01:29:58.659
with. All the boy bands. But the Partridge family,

01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.920
they had people that could play. Where the Monkees...

01:30:03.560 --> 01:30:06.039
They learned the instruments afterwards. Yeah.

01:30:06.140 --> 01:30:09.800
I think Michael Nesmith actually could play guitar.

01:30:10.100 --> 01:30:12.699
That's right. Yeah, he was about the only one

01:30:12.699 --> 01:30:17.720
that could play this at the time. Yeah, all the

01:30:17.720 --> 01:30:23.380
boy bands were phonies. Yeah. Gosh, I know there's

01:30:23.380 --> 01:30:25.319
another one where it was just kind of put together

01:30:25.319 --> 01:30:31.510
and designed to be a power station. Yeah, yes.

01:30:31.529 --> 01:30:33.130
There you go. Power stage is good because Robert

01:30:33.130 --> 01:30:35.289
Palmer. Hey, how are you doing? We're super boring.

01:30:35.810 --> 01:30:38.590
Yes. It was pretty boring. Yeah, it was boring.

01:30:40.010 --> 01:30:42.470
Oh, my God. They already have a prediction of

01:30:42.470 --> 01:30:44.470
the Chiefs next year. Oh, yeah? They already

01:30:44.470 --> 01:30:46.689
have. That's what they're saying. That's what

01:30:46.689 --> 01:30:49.720
I've seen on Facebook. They know something we

01:30:49.720 --> 01:30:52.880
don't. Well, it's one of those things with the

01:30:52.880 --> 01:30:55.279
logo and all that. They already have it predicted.

01:30:55.359 --> 01:30:58.680
Oh, I see. Even though that has never been true.

01:30:58.840 --> 01:31:01.979
Every time I've looked, I've never seen the colors

01:31:01.979 --> 01:31:07.699
they say. That's the rumor going around. We're

01:31:07.699 --> 01:31:14.479
preordained. Yeah, that was... Sucked. It was

01:31:14.479 --> 01:31:17.970
horrible. I mean, I was asking my... My brother,

01:31:18.069 --> 01:31:22.770
what was the lowest scoring game? I know there's

01:31:22.770 --> 01:31:26.250
been another one. Well, I wanted him to be shut

01:31:26.250 --> 01:31:28.550
out. It'd be the first one ever. Yeah, there's

01:31:28.550 --> 01:31:30.729
never been a shutout. Yeah, I would have loved

01:31:30.729 --> 01:31:36.369
to have seen that. What was the score of Super

01:31:36.369 --> 01:31:40.449
Bowl V? That was the other one that was really

01:31:40.449 --> 01:31:43.229
horrible. It's very similar to this. Okay, Super

01:31:43.229 --> 01:31:47.090
Bowl V between the Baltimore Colts. And the Dallas

01:31:47.090 --> 01:31:50.670
Cowboys, the final score was 16 -13. Wow. And

01:31:50.670 --> 01:31:53.850
it was called the Blooper Bowl because there

01:31:53.850 --> 01:31:56.909
were 11 combined turnovers between the two teams.

01:31:57.149 --> 01:32:02.930
Okay. Baltimore won by three points. MVP was

01:32:02.930 --> 01:32:05.649
Chuck Howley, linebacker for the Cowboys. MVP

01:32:05.649 --> 01:32:09.789
is a linebacker. It is good for luck. Yeah, you

01:32:09.789 --> 01:32:12.649
got a ring. I'm very happy for you. Yeah, that

01:32:12.649 --> 01:32:16.560
is nice. Yeah, and also Sam Darnold got a ring

01:32:16.560 --> 01:32:19.640
before Josh Allen, got a ring before Lamar Jackson.

01:32:19.880 --> 01:32:23.920
And I can't think of the other quarterback. Herbert.

01:32:24.340 --> 01:32:26.979
Herbert, Justin Herbert, yeah. I can't remember,

01:32:27.180 --> 01:32:30.020
I think it was last week they were talking about,

01:32:30.220 --> 01:32:33.359
cuz originally he got drafted by the Vikings.

01:32:34.279 --> 01:32:37.689
Yeah. I think so, didn't he, Sam Darnold? No,

01:32:37.689 --> 01:32:40.329
the Jets. The Jets? Yeah, that's right. Okay,

01:32:40.350 --> 01:32:42.470
maybe it was the Jets. He went to the Vikings

01:32:42.470 --> 01:32:46.710
as a free agent. They won 13 games, and they

01:32:46.710 --> 01:32:50.470
got blown out in the first round. Was it the

01:32:50.470 --> 01:32:54.670
Vikings or the Jets that fired the GM? Oh, that

01:32:54.670 --> 01:32:57.630
was the Vikings. Okay, I think the thing that

01:32:57.630 --> 01:33:00.050
I was listening to, they were talking about the

01:33:00.050 --> 01:33:05.539
GM. It was pretty much wrong of them. I mean,

01:33:05.539 --> 01:33:08.899
but who would know, but he got rid of Sam Donald.

01:33:09.359 --> 01:33:12.279
It's like, look what happened now. Yeah. Yeah,

01:33:12.359 --> 01:33:14.600
that's why he got fired, because Sam Donald went

01:33:14.600 --> 01:33:18.539
on to win a Super Bowl, and Minnesota went on

01:33:18.539 --> 01:33:22.539
to be a bottom feeder. Yeah. Yeah, and I agree

01:33:22.539 --> 01:33:25.899
with that decision. I mean, they should have

01:33:25.899 --> 01:33:27.539
beefed up around him is what they should have

01:33:27.539 --> 01:33:28.760
done. They said, all right, you know, the guy

01:33:28.760 --> 01:33:32.939
got it done this far. Yeah. But, yeah. And then

01:33:32.939 --> 01:33:34.680
last season, Minnesota couldn't keep the same

01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:36.380
quarterback on the field because they kept getting

01:33:36.380 --> 01:33:42.399
hurt. Yeah. Same with the Jets. The Jets might

01:33:42.399 --> 01:33:46.699
as well drop down to the UFL. I'm kind of interested

01:33:46.699 --> 01:33:50.060
in seeing how the Giants are going to do. I think

01:33:50.060 --> 01:33:52.539
John Harbaugh is going to. I mean, I think we

01:33:52.539 --> 01:33:55.020
talked about that the last time, but what's his

01:33:55.020 --> 01:33:59.010
face? John Harbaugh with Jackson Dart. Matt Nagy

01:33:59.010 --> 01:34:04.949
is the OC there now. Oh, he took him. Yep. So

01:34:04.949 --> 01:34:08.229
he's the Giants' OC. That's kind of one point

01:34:08.229 --> 01:34:11.029
against them, but still. They might get it done.

01:34:11.529 --> 01:34:14.770
I think that Matt Nagy didn't get the job he

01:34:14.770 --> 01:34:17.350
wanted, so he's got to take another non -play

01:34:17.350 --> 01:34:21.529
-call -and -roll. And you know, the hardball

01:34:21.529 --> 01:34:26.340
came off of the Andy Reid tree. Maybe that's

01:34:26.340 --> 01:34:28.380
one of those things he called them up. Hey, can

01:34:28.380 --> 01:34:30.699
you take me? That's the way I take it. It's like,

01:34:30.779 --> 01:34:33.500
hey, Nagy agreed. He said, you called plays.

01:34:33.899 --> 01:34:36.000
He just needs a job. But then again, I don't

01:34:36.000 --> 01:34:38.260
know. Maybe Harbaugh is a little different on

01:34:38.260 --> 01:34:40.760
that part. Maybe he'll say, hey, you do your

01:34:40.760 --> 01:34:45.239
thing. It's just kind of iffy with the Chiefs,

01:34:45.239 --> 01:34:48.220
who's calling plays. Matt Nagy's not as bad as

01:34:48.220 --> 01:34:50.920
he seems because when he came into power, per

01:34:50.920 --> 01:34:53.739
se, we didn't have the offensive line we did

01:34:53.739 --> 01:34:57.420
before. So it's really hard to judge. I think

01:34:57.420 --> 01:35:03.659
he was here all of Alex Smith and towards the

01:35:03.659 --> 01:35:08.880
end. Two years with Mahomes. Yeah, I believe,

01:35:08.960 --> 01:35:11.460
wasn't it two years with Mahomes? Cuz I thought

01:35:11.460 --> 01:35:14.359
Doug Peterson took over when - Wait a minute,

01:35:14.420 --> 01:35:16.699
Doug Peterson did take over, that's right. Yeah,

01:35:16.720 --> 01:35:19.779
he was here though, Matt Nagy was. He was like

01:35:19.779 --> 01:35:23.340
- Quarterback's coach. I think he was like a

01:35:23.340 --> 01:35:27.000
wide receiver guy and then he transitioned to

01:35:27.000 --> 01:35:30.819
assistant coordinator. Yeah, I think you're right,

01:35:30.939 --> 01:35:33.159
something like that. Then he's like, okay, OCE

01:35:33.159 --> 01:35:38.779
coach. And that was the year the Chiefs... That

01:35:38.779 --> 01:35:44.300
was the D -4 ball. No, before that, what was

01:35:44.300 --> 01:35:48.359
the left tackle? Fisher. Oh, Eric Fisher. Yeah,

01:35:48.359 --> 01:35:52.789
against the Steelers. When we had the, I think

01:35:52.789 --> 01:35:55.750
it was the playoff game. Yeah, it was a playoff

01:35:55.750 --> 01:35:58.289
game. Okay. That was Alex Smith, he was the quarterback.

01:35:58.550 --> 01:36:00.390
Yeah, that's right. I think we didn't, I think

01:36:00.390 --> 01:36:04.149
we didn't kick, we kicked field goals, I think,

01:36:04.170 --> 01:36:06.149
the whole time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:36:06.170 --> 01:36:11.050
It was something weird, yeah. Yeah, so, I don't

01:36:11.050 --> 01:36:12.689
know, you know what, Matt Nagy, I'm glad he's

01:36:12.689 --> 01:36:14.689
got a job, and I'm glad he's on that, you know,

01:36:14.689 --> 01:36:19.300
let him have him. Yeah. He can't burn us anymore.

01:36:20.619 --> 01:36:23.239
I'll put it like this. The excitement of all

01:36:23.239 --> 01:36:27.079
of the players when Eric Viettami was back spoke

01:36:27.079 --> 01:36:30.479
volumes. Yeah, it did. You know, maybe it will

01:36:30.479 --> 01:36:33.979
work because look at, oh, what's the coordinator

01:36:33.979 --> 01:36:38.220
for the Patriots? McDaniels. Oh, McDaniels, Josh

01:36:38.220 --> 01:36:40.460
McDaniels. He tried going, you know, he went

01:36:40.460 --> 01:36:44.819
to, I think he coached the Raiders. Yes, he was

01:36:44.819 --> 01:36:47.739
the coach for the Raiders. Didn't work out. Yeah.

01:36:47.960 --> 01:36:50.800
He went back there. He's been OC. So, you know,

01:36:50.800 --> 01:36:52.560
it's one of those things like Cornell. Like,

01:36:52.560 --> 01:36:55.079
he wasn't a great head coach, but as a coordinator.

01:36:55.859 --> 01:36:58.359
Well, it's kind of like Spagnuolo. Yeah, Spags.

01:36:58.359 --> 01:37:00.600
People did not like him as a head coach, but

01:37:00.600 --> 01:37:03.039
as a defensive coordinator, he's one of the best.

01:37:03.100 --> 01:37:06.880
He has more rings than Andy Reid. Yeah. Yeah,

01:37:07.600 --> 01:37:10.239
because when he was with the Giants, that was

01:37:10.239 --> 01:37:15.680
when Tom Coughlin was. as a coach, I think. Oh,

01:37:15.680 --> 01:37:17.819
wow. That's been a while. Yeah, that's with Eli

01:37:17.819 --> 01:37:21.420
Manning and a great defense, which was Spagnuolo's.

01:37:21.579 --> 01:37:24.420
I think he had Strahan there and everything.

01:37:25.520 --> 01:37:28.479
Strahan? Yeah, very possibly. I think it was.

01:37:29.220 --> 01:37:34.880
Yeah. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. So, you

01:37:34.880 --> 01:37:37.220
know what? I mean, I'm glad that we made some

01:37:37.220 --> 01:37:40.039
changes, and now it's going to be interesting

01:37:40.039 --> 01:37:43.640
to see what they do with the roster. Yeah. They

01:37:43.640 --> 01:37:46.560
do need to address running back and wide receivers.

01:37:46.939 --> 01:37:49.319
No, that's what we were talking about earlier.

01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:54.579
Oh, really? Okay, yeah. Walker III, the Seattle,

01:37:54.779 --> 01:37:58.420
the running back. That guy, do you see how fierce

01:37:58.420 --> 01:38:00.979
he ran? He took no for an answer. That's who

01:38:00.979 --> 01:38:03.960
I was talking about the other day when we were

01:38:03.960 --> 01:38:06.819
talking. Yeah, Walker. Yeah, that guy is insane.

01:38:06.979 --> 01:38:09.220
He doesn't stop. He's going to be a free agent.

01:38:09.659 --> 01:38:12.279
Oh, I'd love to get him if he's a free agent.

01:38:13.510 --> 01:38:15.550
Pacheco was doing that before he got injured.

01:38:16.069 --> 01:38:18.989
Yeah, I think he was injured. He slew up a little

01:38:18.989 --> 01:38:22.890
bit. Well, the problem is Pacheco is not, he

01:38:22.890 --> 01:38:26.130
doesn't have the body type. Walker does. That's

01:38:26.130 --> 01:38:27.489
how come he kept getting injured. Enough with

01:38:27.489 --> 01:38:31.729
all these little guys. Get somebody that can

01:38:31.729 --> 01:38:35.289
pound, you know, we need a yard. Andy Reid's

01:38:35.289 --> 01:38:37.529
always been a speed guy. Now he needs to start

01:38:37.529 --> 01:38:42.980
playing some more of the smash mouth. Yeah. And

01:38:42.980 --> 01:38:45.039
that's throughout the league. I think throughout

01:38:45.039 --> 01:38:47.739
the league, everywhere, it's all speed. Everything's

01:38:47.739 --> 01:38:50.199
speed, speed, speed. Well, now, have you noticed

01:38:50.199 --> 01:38:52.659
the last two Super Bowls have been won by a defensive

01:38:52.659 --> 01:38:56.899
line? Yeah. Well, there's that old saying. Hey,

01:38:56.920 --> 01:38:59.800
there's that old saying. Defense wins championships.

01:39:00.180 --> 01:39:03.020
That's what Ray Lewis always said. Bill Purcell

01:39:03.020 --> 01:39:05.779
started that. Oh, yeah. Bill Purcell is the one

01:39:05.779 --> 01:39:08.880
that said that. And that was true. And then the

01:39:08.880 --> 01:39:12.600
year the quarterback came along. Yep. It keeps

01:39:12.600 --> 01:39:15.000
getting reinvented. Because Mahomes came along,

01:39:15.079 --> 01:39:16.819
and all of a sudden it was like a Brady -Mahomes,

01:39:16.899 --> 01:39:19.239
oh, it's a quarterback leap. Okay, perfect example.

01:39:19.640 --> 01:39:22.060
Like, look at, there's no more fullbacks, really.

01:39:22.260 --> 01:39:25.619
There's only a few teams. And you see very seldom

01:39:25.619 --> 01:39:29.020
I -formation or offset I -formation. You don't

01:39:29.020 --> 01:39:35.920
see that no more. It's all... Shotgun, pistol,

01:39:36.319 --> 01:39:40.239
wildcat. It's funny, I was actually asked my

01:39:40.239 --> 01:39:43.060
dad, you fairly seldom, remember Jake Palmer

01:39:43.060 --> 01:39:46.819
when he was with Broncos, he would always do

01:39:46.819 --> 01:39:51.819
that bootleg. Nobody does a bootleg no more.

01:39:51.979 --> 01:39:54.539
I mean, very seldom I see it. You're right, yeah.

01:39:54.619 --> 01:39:57.460
Or the flea flicker. They'll hand it off. I've

01:39:57.460 --> 01:39:59.439
seen it, I think, a couple of times. They do

01:39:59.439 --> 01:40:01.979
the gadget plays, but they don't do the good

01:40:01.979 --> 01:40:06.600
old reliable. Yeah. See, that's one thing with

01:40:06.600 --> 01:40:08.380
everything. You've got to stick to the basics.

01:40:09.020 --> 01:40:14.380
Yeah. No, I agree. This really shows. Here's

01:40:14.380 --> 01:40:17.380
the way I see this happening right here. They

01:40:17.380 --> 01:40:23.520
got together some of these GMs and head coaches

01:40:23.520 --> 01:40:26.770
and said, We're not going to be Mahomes. So what

01:40:26.770 --> 01:40:29.670
is going to be the new Mahomes? That's the defensive

01:40:29.670 --> 01:40:33.050
line. The D -line is your new Mahomes. And the

01:40:33.050 --> 01:40:36.729
thing is, too, Mahomes, he can't. We've talked

01:40:36.729 --> 01:40:38.689
about it. It can't be like, oh, we got Mahomes.

01:40:38.710 --> 01:40:40.470
Let's see what he's going to do. He can't do

01:40:40.470 --> 01:40:43.270
that. I mean, he is getting older. All their

01:40:43.270 --> 01:40:45.210
time is going to catch up with everybody. So,

01:40:45.289 --> 01:40:49.229
you know, I mean, he needs to change his style

01:40:49.229 --> 01:40:51.409
up. He needs to tweak some things if he can do

01:40:51.409 --> 01:40:53.699
that. He could be a great quarterback out there.

01:40:53.800 --> 01:40:56.380
I mean, well, he's already a great quarterback.

01:40:56.380 --> 01:40:58.420
But they were accustomed to using him as like

01:40:58.420 --> 01:41:00.800
90 % of the offense. He needs to cut it back

01:41:00.800 --> 01:41:03.159
to 50%. The other half of the time, hand it off.

01:41:03.420 --> 01:41:06.000
Only backyard football when you need it. Absolutely

01:41:06.000 --> 01:41:07.720
need it. But other than that, no backyard football.

01:41:07.720 --> 01:41:12.039
All that tricky stuff, it's great, but it's one

01:41:12.039 --> 01:41:16.460
of those things, okay, if he does a no -look

01:41:16.460 --> 01:41:18.539
pass, okay, yeah, it works. But if he doesn't,

01:41:18.539 --> 01:41:21.060
it's like, come on. Like you said, enough with

01:41:21.060 --> 01:41:23.340
the - Or when it gets tipped and it goes into

01:41:23.340 --> 01:41:27.100
the hands of the opposing team. Yeah. Yeah. And

01:41:27.100 --> 01:41:31.399
that's when we lost to Tampa Bay. What was the

01:41:31.399 --> 01:41:34.579
coach for Tampa Bay? Arians. Where's Arians?

01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:37.500
He's like, they're just a fancy football team.

01:41:37.699 --> 01:41:40.079
And they just pretty much played smash mouth

01:41:40.079 --> 01:41:44.220
football. Yeah. And that's where Andy Reid is

01:41:44.220 --> 01:41:47.560
like the speed guy. Yeah. It's like you said,

01:41:47.659 --> 01:41:50.109
we need to get those. That Tampa Super Bowl,

01:41:50.210 --> 01:41:52.430
you know where it was lost? And I knew it when

01:41:52.430 --> 01:41:56.949
I saw it. I identified it. Okay. When Andy Reid,

01:41:57.149 --> 01:42:00.010
they had a minute and a half left, and they had

01:42:00.010 --> 01:42:03.149
third and long against Tampa. And Andy Reid,

01:42:03.229 --> 01:42:04.829
instead of letting the time run down and just

01:42:04.829 --> 01:42:07.550
go to halftime, he called the timeout. Yeah.

01:42:07.630 --> 01:42:10.369
And Tom Brady looked on his face and was like,

01:42:10.489 --> 01:42:13.550
oh, you think you're getting the ball back. He

01:42:13.550 --> 01:42:16.329
shoved the ball up his ass is what he did. That's

01:42:16.329 --> 01:42:18.779
where I think. Besides playing Smash Mouth, that

01:42:18.779 --> 01:42:20.859
game right there, that was it. He made a statement.

01:42:20.859 --> 01:42:24.579
The clock thing, I remember, I remember, I mean,

01:42:24.600 --> 01:42:26.680
this is even years ago. I remember that was always

01:42:26.680 --> 01:42:30.500
an issue with Andy Reid in Philly. Yeah, and

01:42:30.500 --> 01:42:33.239
they said that too. The clock man, like he would

01:42:33.239 --> 01:42:37.840
always do stupid things. I mean, yeah. And now,

01:42:37.880 --> 01:42:40.279
I mean, I don't know. It's not too much. It just

01:42:40.279 --> 01:42:45.000
seems like he's trying to control the game too

01:42:45.000 --> 01:42:48.720
much. It's like I said, Mahomes, he's already

01:42:48.720 --> 01:42:51.460
managing football. Why? Let him go out there,

01:42:51.539 --> 01:42:55.899
throw four or five touchdowns. Yeah. I mean,

01:42:55.939 --> 01:43:00.579
he had that one season, was it his first? The

01:43:00.579 --> 01:43:03.479
year we lost to the Patriots, he had 50 touchdowns.

01:43:03.479 --> 01:43:07.359
Oh, the D4 game. Yeah, that was D4, yes. 50 touchdowns.

01:43:07.500 --> 01:43:10.760
Yeah. And then after that. I know his numbers

01:43:10.760 --> 01:43:13.539
have to have been dropping. He hasn't got up

01:43:13.539 --> 01:43:16.359
to 50. His best was, I think, the year that he

01:43:16.359 --> 01:43:19.300
threw the interception in overtime to Cincinnati.

01:43:19.760 --> 01:43:24.520
And I think, was it 2022? He had 5 ,250 yards

01:43:24.520 --> 01:43:28.560
right around there. Oh, really? And 55 touchdowns,

01:43:28.560 --> 01:43:31.340
maybe? Oh, he had 55. I believe he had, well,

01:43:31.399 --> 01:43:34.619
quite a bit over 50. I mean, as in like 53 years.

01:43:34.619 --> 01:43:36.439
Well, I thought the record was, I mean, I could

01:43:36.439 --> 01:43:40.470
be wrong. I thought it was 50. Maybe it was.

01:43:44.050 --> 01:43:46.569
You know what? Well, you know what? I don't feel

01:43:46.569 --> 01:43:50.630
like looking at him. But he did have 5 ,200 and

01:43:50.630 --> 01:43:55.130
some yards. But the touchdowns, I don't know.

01:43:55.510 --> 01:43:58.310
It's somewhere in there. It was either high 40s

01:43:58.310 --> 01:44:01.409
or low 50s. Yeah. I mean, all this year, though,

01:44:01.430 --> 01:44:05.710
Andy, I mean, like, they need to keep up in a

01:44:05.710 --> 01:44:08.550
lot of areas. Yeah. Well, you know what? I'm

01:44:08.550 --> 01:44:10.649
glad we have Andy Reid, though. I mean, I trust

01:44:10.649 --> 01:44:13.289
him more than anybody. I mean, you know, no one

01:44:13.289 --> 01:44:15.510
else is. You know, John Harbaugh, you can say

01:44:15.510 --> 01:44:18.210
that. He won it once. Yeah. And he won that with

01:44:18.210 --> 01:44:20.489
Joe Flacco against Tom Brady, which I have to

01:44:20.489 --> 01:44:25.250
respect. He had Lamar, but Lamar, he's a scrambling

01:44:25.250 --> 01:44:27.930
quarterback. And he gets hurt. And he gets hurt,

01:44:27.989 --> 01:44:30.609
yeah. And now I don't know how much is left in

01:44:30.609 --> 01:44:33.289
the tank, honestly. He makes a 40 -yard pass.

01:44:34.130 --> 01:44:38.100
Great. To me, most of the time, he's not an accurate

01:44:38.100 --> 01:44:42.279
quarterback. If you give him 10 shots like that,

01:44:43.060 --> 01:44:44.340
he will probably get a point. He's accurate if

01:44:44.340 --> 01:44:46.340
the guy's wide open in the middle, he's great.

01:44:46.439 --> 01:44:48.340
But if you've got to do that pinpoint on the

01:44:48.340 --> 01:44:51.640
sideline. He can do it. That's usually when he

01:44:51.640 --> 01:44:55.380
takes off running. That's like Jimmy Garoppolo.

01:44:55.579 --> 01:44:58.359
He's great in the middle. But throwing that pinpoint

01:44:58.359 --> 01:45:00.899
pass like in the Super Bowl, he couldn't do it.

01:45:00.899 --> 01:45:02.840
That was the difference in the game. Mahomes

01:45:02.840 --> 01:45:05.659
did it. He didn't. They had a wide open at the

01:45:05.659 --> 01:45:08.039
close to the end of the game where the Chiefs

01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:11.560
went up by 10. And he had a wide open pass. I

01:45:11.560 --> 01:45:14.579
forgot to who. And the guy was on the sideline.

01:45:14.579 --> 01:45:16.319
He would have been in the end zone in like a

01:45:16.319 --> 01:45:20.199
second. But he missed him. I mean, not just kind

01:45:20.199 --> 01:45:22.460
of. He missed him. And he was not being harassed.

01:45:22.729 --> 01:45:24.750
He was not being chased out of the pocket. He

01:45:24.750 --> 01:45:26.829
just couldn't do it. And then the next year,

01:45:26.829 --> 01:45:28.909
they didn't have him anymore. He went to the

01:45:28.909 --> 01:45:32.750
Raiders. And A .J. Brown, I think he's going

01:45:32.750 --> 01:45:35.710
to be available. Yeah. You know what? I'd love

01:45:35.710 --> 01:45:38.510
to see A .J. Brown. I'll take him. Walker. I

01:45:38.510 --> 01:45:40.989
don't think, I want to say, I don't think after

01:45:40.989 --> 01:45:45.689
that Super Bowl, I don't, from what I've kind

01:45:45.689 --> 01:45:48.569
of read and seen, I don't think he's too happy

01:45:48.569 --> 01:45:51.390
over it. No, him and Sirianni don't like each

01:45:51.390 --> 01:45:53.899
other for real. kind of beefing or something,

01:45:54.039 --> 01:45:56.560
I don't know. Well, okay, I can put this in perspective,

01:45:56.659 --> 01:45:59.819
and I've said this before. Okay, Travis Kelsey

01:45:59.819 --> 01:46:02.279
and Andy Reid, they get a little heated. Yeah.

01:46:02.340 --> 01:46:07.779
Okay, but they turn around. Sirianni turned around,

01:46:07.840 --> 01:46:10.460
went right after A .J. Brown, and A .J. Brown

01:46:10.460 --> 01:46:12.939
turned around and went after Sirianni. That's

01:46:12.939 --> 01:46:16.439
the difference. Yeah. That's that Todd Haley,

01:46:16.600 --> 01:46:20.199
Matt Castle guy. Yes. Yeah, where Todd Haley,

01:46:20.300 --> 01:46:23.039
you can see him screaming, just throw the fucking

01:46:23.039 --> 01:46:26.399
ball. And everyone's like, ooh, I know what he

01:46:26.399 --> 01:46:29.600
said. And you can see Matt Castle. That's where

01:46:29.600 --> 01:46:31.939
Andy Reid and them, they're just like, hey, you

01:46:31.939 --> 01:46:33.640
know, why'd you do that? Oh, because of the,

01:46:33.699 --> 01:46:36.800
you know, they're just. Yeah, they don't address

01:46:36.800 --> 01:46:38.520
this like, all right, he's pissed off. I'm going

01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:40.060
to leave. I'm going to turn around and let him

01:46:40.060 --> 01:46:41.859
calm down. And then later on, they're hugging.

01:46:42.250 --> 01:46:44.810
I didn't have him with Sirianni. Same with Biennium.

01:46:44.949 --> 01:46:47.890
Yeah, Biennium too, yes. Him and Mahomes were

01:46:47.890 --> 01:46:50.710
in each other's face. Yeah, because Kelsey made

01:46:50.710 --> 01:46:52.510
that fumble that one time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:46:52.989 --> 01:46:56.229
That's an even better example. That's what the

01:46:56.229 --> 01:46:58.930
Chiefs, you need that a little bit. But look

01:46:58.930 --> 01:47:01.029
at Kelsey now. He's like, oh, my God, my man's

01:47:01.029 --> 01:47:05.909
back. Yeah, yeah. Well, maybe hopefully we can

01:47:05.909 --> 01:47:09.090
get another year of Kelsey and, you know, Mahomes.

01:47:09.130 --> 01:47:12.720
I can say this. All right. Whenever your dad

01:47:12.720 --> 01:47:15.260
punished you and you needed it, right? We talk

01:47:15.260 --> 01:47:17.479
about it now lovingly, right? We're like, yeah,

01:47:17.520 --> 01:47:20.020
I remember, man, like one time I hit a monkey

01:47:20.020 --> 01:47:21.840
wrench in the middle of the yard and my dad hit

01:47:21.840 --> 01:47:25.100
it with a lawnmower. Oh, boy. Oh, boy. Fucked

01:47:25.100 --> 01:47:26.779
up the lawnmower, monkey wrench went flying,

01:47:26.880 --> 01:47:30.140
you know. So, hey, Mark, were you working on

01:47:30.140 --> 01:47:33.600
your bike earlier? Yeah. What'd you do to that

01:47:33.600 --> 01:47:39.800
wrench? Smack. Oh, fuck. Okay. Now I think it's

01:47:39.800 --> 01:47:43.600
funnier now. It's loving. I think it's the same

01:47:43.600 --> 01:47:45.619
way with the enemy getting in his ass. He's like,

01:47:45.619 --> 01:47:47.579
yeah, you know what? I really needed it. I love

01:47:47.579 --> 01:47:52.819
the guy. That's how it should be with the NFL.

01:47:53.199 --> 01:47:56.420
I mean, and all the money that they're making.

01:47:56.560 --> 01:48:01.279
I mean, that's another thing I was talking to

01:48:01.279 --> 01:48:03.600
my dad about. I think we talked about this where

01:48:03.600 --> 01:48:06.420
I mentioned it. They need to bring some of that.

01:48:07.580 --> 01:48:10.760
90s style with the secondary of play, like being

01:48:10.760 --> 01:48:13.439
able to touch the quarterback. I would love to

01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:17.079
see that, yeah. And, I mean, even the quarterbacks.

01:48:17.600 --> 01:48:20.340
I mean, you've got a defensive end coming full

01:48:20.340 --> 01:48:22.000
speed. How are you supposed to let up if you

01:48:22.000 --> 01:48:24.119
throw the ball? I've got a question for you.

01:48:24.159 --> 01:48:26.640
We talked about this earlier. How do you feel

01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:33.800
about the non -personal foul calls in the Super

01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:37.060
Bowl? I think I might have missed one. We were

01:48:37.060 --> 01:48:38.420
talking about it earlier. Yeah, they had the

01:48:38.420 --> 01:48:41.279
big fight that went on. Somebody hit Diggs out

01:48:41.279 --> 01:48:44.479
of bounds. Knocked the piss out of him. And then

01:48:44.479 --> 01:48:46.819
they started pushing and shoving, then punches

01:48:46.819 --> 01:48:50.399
were thrown. One of the non -players intervened?

01:48:51.920 --> 01:48:54.239
I don't know. I'm not for sure. There was a pile

01:48:54.239 --> 01:48:55.840
of people that could have happened. Yeah, and

01:48:55.840 --> 01:48:57.600
I remember one of the officials hitting the ground

01:48:57.600 --> 01:49:00.000
pretty hard. He got pushed or shoved. Yeah, okay,

01:49:00.159 --> 01:49:02.520
yeah, yeah, yeah. Not one flag was thrown. Not

01:49:02.520 --> 01:49:06.000
one single flag. Really? They just broke it up,

01:49:06.039 --> 01:49:07.680
ignored it, and went back to the game. Was that

01:49:07.680 --> 01:49:09.060
supposed to be a necessary reference? It's supposed

01:49:09.060 --> 01:49:11.319
to be all sorts of things. There were punches

01:49:11.319 --> 01:49:13.539
thrown, lay hits out of bounds. That could have

01:49:13.539 --> 01:49:16.180
been an ejection. Yeah, and under different circumstances,

01:49:16.220 --> 01:49:19.819
it would have been. So nobody got ejected? Nope.

01:49:20.720 --> 01:49:23.760
But for some reason... Yeah, because a ref, when

01:49:23.760 --> 01:49:26.300
you said, got hit and fell, yeah. Yeah, and he

01:49:26.300 --> 01:49:29.359
kind of... And everybody saw that punch being

01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:31.770
thrown, and that's an automatic ejection. Yes.

01:49:31.770 --> 01:49:33.810
But they just decided, let's just ignore the

01:49:33.810 --> 01:49:35.770
whole thing. I can't remember exactly, but no,

01:49:35.810 --> 01:49:38.489
we were talking about, that's how we got into

01:49:38.489 --> 01:49:40.890
the whole conversation as well. But we were talking

01:49:40.890 --> 01:49:43.390
about the officiating, how terrible it's been.

01:49:46.229 --> 01:49:49.729
I made the comment, and my dad said kind of the

01:49:49.729 --> 01:49:55.189
same thing, but they got somebody watching the

01:49:55.189 --> 01:49:58.720
games in New York and stuff. Uh -huh. Okay. you

01:49:58.720 --> 01:50:01.739
make a call on the play, how come we can't say,

01:50:01.880 --> 01:50:06.079
hey, Mark, let's look at that play before you

01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:08.479
make a decision? Yeah. I mean, won't they have

01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:11.039
somebody, like, looking at the game and say,

01:50:11.079 --> 01:50:13.720
okay, hey, look, we're calling a play here. That's

01:50:13.720 --> 01:50:15.939
a good point. Yeah, and have a system like that,

01:50:16.020 --> 01:50:18.399
I think. I mean, they actually do. Like my dad

01:50:18.399 --> 01:50:20.140
said. Oh, they do? It's called quick review.

01:50:20.590 --> 01:50:22.529
And they've used it a number of times during

01:50:22.529 --> 01:50:25.329
the season where the officials on the field make

01:50:25.329 --> 01:50:27.789
one call, and then New York buzzes in and says,

01:50:27.829 --> 01:50:29.189
wait a second, we're going to take a look at

01:50:29.189 --> 01:50:30.630
that. Wait a minute, that's right. And then they

01:50:30.630 --> 01:50:32.909
overturn it and say, nope, nope, New York said

01:50:32.909 --> 01:50:34.989
it's supposed to be this way. And so the officials

01:50:34.989 --> 01:50:37.510
on the field say, after a quick review, brother.

01:50:37.689 --> 01:50:39.569
So they have that system in place. They just

01:50:39.569 --> 01:50:41.229
choose not to use it when they don't want to.

01:50:41.229 --> 01:50:42.810
So they're not using it every time. And it's

01:50:42.810 --> 01:50:46.130
just like the unnecessary roughness and the disqualifications.

01:50:46.149 --> 01:50:48.350
They choose not to use it. I want to know how

01:50:48.350 --> 01:50:51.500
come. A couple of Super Bowls, that would have

01:50:51.500 --> 01:50:53.500
been called, and there would have been objections.

01:50:53.819 --> 01:50:57.119
Now this one, nothing. Because it's one of the

01:50:57.119 --> 01:50:59.140
ways they influence the game. That's kind of

01:50:59.140 --> 01:51:03.760
what I told my dad. There's just so many stupid

01:51:03.760 --> 01:51:07.039
calls and stuff that's costing games. Do you

01:51:07.039 --> 01:51:09.479
think they're influencing the game for the gambling

01:51:09.479 --> 01:51:13.039
community? Probably, I think so. I think so.

01:51:13.319 --> 01:51:15.439
I mean, like my dad said, okay, so it slows the

01:51:15.439 --> 01:51:18.010
game down. You're going to make more money on

01:51:18.010 --> 01:51:19.850
your commercials. They love it. They always put

01:51:19.850 --> 01:51:21.970
Jake from State Park there, a little split screen.

01:51:23.649 --> 01:51:26.350
I think every single commercial you hear something

01:51:26.350 --> 01:51:29.810
about DraftKings. Yeah, they're the new sex.

01:51:29.949 --> 01:51:33.369
Whenever you see a field goal, right there, DraftKings.

01:51:34.250 --> 01:51:37.670
It's usually like there's some sort of controversial

01:51:37.670 --> 01:51:39.850
play. They're trying to figure out what's going

01:51:39.850 --> 01:51:43.029
on. and nobody knows yet, so they go to a commercial,

01:51:43.149 --> 01:51:45.710
and it's for a gambling house. It's like they're

01:51:45.710 --> 01:51:48.689
telling you, get online now and bet on how this

01:51:48.689 --> 01:51:50.930
play is going to – we're pausing the game so

01:51:50.930 --> 01:51:56.810
you can bet. I think it is going almost all to

01:51:56.810 --> 01:51:58.510
the gambling thing. Their bread and butter, I

01:51:58.510 --> 01:52:00.289
think, is gambling now, and they know it because

01:52:00.289 --> 01:52:04.609
all these states are legalizing it. And that's

01:52:04.609 --> 01:52:06.590
another thing I kind of – we were talking about

01:52:06.590 --> 01:52:11.000
too. It's just like politics. You know, you've

01:52:11.000 --> 01:52:13.100
got all those football guys there. So the next

01:52:13.100 --> 01:52:15.380
guy that's going to take over for Goodell is

01:52:15.380 --> 01:52:18.079
going to be one of those guys that are, yes,

01:52:18.079 --> 01:52:20.680
sir, you know, kind of know what's going on already.

01:52:20.760 --> 01:52:23.359
So it's not that somebody else is going to come

01:52:23.359 --> 01:52:26.180
in there and start changing things. Maybe. Maybe

01:52:26.180 --> 01:52:31.720
they do. Maybe they don't. Yeah. Well, I know

01:52:31.720 --> 01:52:34.380
when Pete Roselle was commissioner of the NFL.

01:52:34.500 --> 01:52:36.600
That's who it was. I couldn't remember what the

01:52:36.600 --> 01:52:40.380
guy's name was. He. He was in charge. He was

01:52:40.380 --> 01:52:42.640
a commissioner, and he kicked people's asses.

01:52:43.100 --> 01:52:48.520
But even though he made the league what it is

01:52:48.520 --> 01:52:52.119
today by getting the first really giant TV contracts,

01:52:52.300 --> 01:52:56.380
after he retired, the owners got together and

01:52:56.380 --> 01:52:58.119
said, we don't want a commissioner anymore that's

01:52:58.119 --> 01:52:59.979
going to tell us what to do. We want to tell

01:52:59.979 --> 01:53:03.460
him what to do. So after Rozelle, they've only

01:53:03.460 --> 01:53:09.500
elected Yes Men to be commissioner. That's where

01:53:09.500 --> 01:53:13.720
the league needs to say no. We're running things.

01:53:14.180 --> 01:53:17.859
You guys work for us. You guys control your team.

01:53:18.100 --> 01:53:20.659
But we run the whole big show. That's how it

01:53:20.659 --> 01:53:26.000
should be. But it's set up as the team owners

01:53:26.000 --> 01:53:28.979
are the franchise owners and the league office

01:53:28.979 --> 01:53:32.840
is there to serve the franchisees, the team owners.

01:53:32.979 --> 01:53:38.000
And until like 10 years ago, the NFL... league

01:53:38.000 --> 01:53:41.859
office was a non -profit organization it was

01:53:41.859 --> 01:53:45.619
listed tax -wise as non -profit the nfl league

01:53:45.619 --> 01:53:49.000
office isn't that amazing and also it is also

01:53:49.000 --> 01:53:51.979
in entertainment it is not not a sports industry

01:53:51.979 --> 01:53:54.119
yeah it's legally registered as an entertainment

01:53:54.119 --> 01:53:57.760
the same as wwe yeah yeah same thing and that

01:53:57.760 --> 01:54:00.880
gets them out of the fair competition laws they

01:54:00.880 --> 01:54:03.220
don't have to do anything for fair competition

01:54:05.420 --> 01:54:07.319
Then that answers everything right there. Yeah.

01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:11.960
They can't get sued. So then that's like what

01:54:11.960 --> 01:54:13.979
we're just talking about. That answers our question.

01:54:14.000 --> 01:54:16.579
They can legally script. All the bad calls and

01:54:16.579 --> 01:54:18.800
stuff. They can legally script the game and fix

01:54:18.800 --> 01:54:20.800
the game and there's nothing anyone can do about

01:54:20.800 --> 01:54:22.880
it because it's just like writing a movie. Yeah.

01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:26.340
I came across that on Facebook all the time where

01:54:26.340 --> 01:54:28.640
there's somebody, oh, the league gets scripted.

01:54:29.579 --> 01:54:31.779
I didn't even know that. Well, I don't think

01:54:31.779 --> 01:54:33.859
it's scripted. I think it's influenced. Very

01:54:33.859 --> 01:54:35.920
much influenced, yeah. But they could script

01:54:35.920 --> 01:54:39.060
it if they wanted to do it. Yeah, back in the...

01:54:39.060 --> 01:54:42.399
Maybe in a little bit, you know, because that

01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:46.079
year was great. There was a lot of favoring him

01:54:46.079 --> 01:54:49.300
on calls. They changed stuff because of him.

01:54:52.159 --> 01:54:56.079
It was back in the 70s. The Detroit Lions fans

01:54:56.079 --> 01:54:58.619
got together a class action lawsuit against the

01:54:58.619 --> 01:55:01.100
team and the league saying, you're not putting

01:55:01.100 --> 01:55:03.340
a fair and competitive product on the field.

01:55:03.380 --> 01:55:05.979
You're not even trying. So we're not getting

01:55:05.979 --> 01:55:07.840
our money's worth out of our season tickets.

01:55:08.039 --> 01:55:10.899
And so they sued. And it was immediately thrown

01:55:10.899 --> 01:55:12.880
out by the judge saying, they're not a sports

01:55:12.880 --> 01:55:14.920
industry. They're an entertainment industry.

01:55:15.899 --> 01:55:17.699
A lot of my questions, I didn't even, I was never

01:55:17.699 --> 01:55:20.020
aware of any of that. So it'd be like, you know,

01:55:20.039 --> 01:55:22.420
suing ABC because their TV show wasn't funny

01:55:22.420 --> 01:55:24.520
enough. You can't do that. Oh, they'd be getting

01:55:24.520 --> 01:55:27.800
sued all the time. I mean, I remember, well,

01:55:27.880 --> 01:55:30.199
I mean, I've seen highlights and stuff, but I

01:55:30.199 --> 01:55:34.960
remember 80s, 90s with Jim McMahon. I mean, like,

01:55:34.960 --> 01:55:37.520
he was getting thrown around, broken ribs. Oh,

01:55:37.600 --> 01:55:41.079
hang on, hang on, go ahead. Now, if any of these

01:55:41.079 --> 01:55:46.310
people get injured, oh, you know, I can't. Mahomes,

01:55:46.409 --> 01:55:48.470
yeah, he came out there with his knee that time.

01:55:48.989 --> 01:55:52.329
I think in the 70s and the 80s, the players were

01:55:52.329 --> 01:55:55.930
still considered fairly replaceable. And then

01:55:55.930 --> 01:55:58.350
you started getting superstars, and then with

01:55:58.350 --> 01:56:01.170
the advent of social media, they realized if

01:56:01.170 --> 01:56:03.630
we can make our players stars and keep them around,

01:56:03.890 --> 01:56:06.250
that makes a whole lot of difference. When did

01:56:06.250 --> 01:56:12.520
they change? I want to say it was in... In the

01:56:12.520 --> 01:56:15.319
90s, maybe? Late 90s? That they changed that

01:56:15.319 --> 01:56:20.359
rule? About hitting the quarterback? Yeah. That

01:56:20.359 --> 01:56:23.859
sounds about right, because up until then, they

01:56:23.859 --> 01:56:25.960
were selling videos at the end of every season

01:56:25.960 --> 01:56:29.180
showcasing the biggest hits, the most damaging,

01:56:29.319 --> 01:56:31.699
injuring hits. They called it NFL's Greatest

01:56:31.699 --> 01:56:37.340
Hits. Yeah. All right, we both had very important

01:56:37.340 --> 01:56:41.060
phone calls. Franco had one, and so did I. So

01:56:41.060 --> 01:56:43.840
anyhow, that was Franco from Corolla's Italian

01:56:43.840 --> 01:56:46.699
market, the best Italian market in the world,

01:56:46.840 --> 01:56:50.079
even in Italy. Oh, yeah. We were trying to figure

01:56:50.079 --> 01:56:52.640
out when it was the rules changed so much that

01:56:52.640 --> 01:56:55.500
you couldn't get the quarterback so badly. And

01:56:55.500 --> 01:56:58.159
I'm thinking it probably coincided somewhere

01:56:58.159 --> 01:57:01.260
around the time when smartphones came out, and

01:57:01.260 --> 01:57:04.079
then it became super easy to share things really

01:57:04.079 --> 01:57:08.180
quickly. And the NFL couldn't just hide the replay

01:57:08.180 --> 01:57:11.439
and say, oh, well, no one saw it. Now everyone

01:57:11.439 --> 01:57:13.300
can see everything, and everything gets pressed

01:57:13.300 --> 01:57:15.279
around, everything gets spread really quickly.

01:57:16.020 --> 01:57:18.859
At the time, it was harder to deny things that

01:57:18.859 --> 01:57:21.079
actually really happened. And people were going,

01:57:21.239 --> 01:57:23.380
oh, look at this hit. Look, you can see his bone

01:57:23.380 --> 01:57:25.739
pushing out through his skin. Ew, this is icky.

01:57:27.359 --> 01:57:29.979
That was part of it. And then another part is

01:57:29.979 --> 01:57:33.840
the teams realized that. Instead of being replaceable

01:57:33.840 --> 01:57:36.460
and disposable, the players were actually commodities

01:57:36.460 --> 01:57:39.199
that they could market and turn into superstars

01:57:39.199 --> 01:57:41.479
and make more money off of. And they didn't want

01:57:41.479 --> 01:57:43.800
their star sitting on the sideline with a broken

01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:46.319
leg. So it's like, hey, we've got to quit hitting

01:57:46.319 --> 01:57:48.199
these quarterbacks because they're the face of

01:57:48.199 --> 01:57:50.300
the team. We make a shit ton of money off of

01:57:50.300 --> 01:57:53.079
them, but only if they're playing. Yeah. So let's

01:57:53.079 --> 01:57:54.880
quit hitting them so they can all keep playing.

01:57:55.079 --> 01:58:01.819
Yeah. Damn it. You know, I mean, I love that

01:58:01.819 --> 01:58:03.720
call I just got because it was good news. Yeah.

01:58:03.800 --> 01:58:06.180
But we were all going somewhere and it was like,

01:58:06.199 --> 01:58:07.899
it kind of bothered me. I'm like, well, I got

01:58:07.899 --> 01:58:10.789
to take this, but. Yeah. Damn it, what was Franco

01:58:10.789 --> 01:58:12.750
talking about? We were talking about the league

01:58:12.750 --> 01:58:15.229
as entertainment rather than real sport. Yeah,

01:58:15.229 --> 01:58:18.770
I lost it now. So anyhow, that's fine. Oh, this

01:58:18.770 --> 01:58:22.109
is a music creeps anyhow. It is. Bonus content

01:58:22.109 --> 01:58:25.409
there. Yeah, there we go. Well, anytime Franco

01:58:25.409 --> 01:58:27.250
comes by, we're talking football because that

01:58:27.250 --> 01:58:29.670
guy is probably more knowledgeable than both

01:58:29.670 --> 01:58:31.850
of us. Yeah. He's really, really good at it.

01:58:31.909 --> 01:58:34.510
He keeps into it. Yeah, yep. I think we owe him

01:58:34.510 --> 01:58:38.369
a coffee probably. Probably so. Yep. All right.

01:58:39.730 --> 01:58:45.130
Let's see, where were we? You were... Give me

01:58:45.130 --> 01:58:51.170
some questions there. Okay. What... Okay, what

01:58:51.170 --> 01:58:53.689
rock band was the biggest... Okay, we went to

01:58:53.689 --> 01:58:56.229
ABBA. Did we do the biggest phonies of all time,

01:58:56.270 --> 01:59:00.390
rock stars? Okay. Pink Floyd. Oh, I think we

01:59:00.390 --> 01:59:02.350
were on phonies, yeah. Yeah, we were on phonies.

01:59:02.350 --> 01:59:05.149
Pink Floyd. Pink Floyd. Motley Crue. Motley Crue,

01:59:05.170 --> 01:59:10.350
all the boy bands. Yeah, NSYNC. Backstreet men.

01:59:10.390 --> 01:59:12.470
Backstreet, yeah, yeah. Men to men. New men on

01:59:12.470 --> 01:59:16.510
the block. Yes. There weren't any kids or boys.

01:59:16.550 --> 01:59:18.789
These were grown -ass men. You wanted to have

01:59:18.789 --> 01:59:21.529
sex with your daughters. Yes, yeah. Quit pretending

01:59:21.529 --> 01:59:23.029
they're little kids. And they probably did. Yeah.

01:59:23.050 --> 01:59:25.409
And they probably did. Yeah. Let's just be glad

01:59:25.409 --> 01:59:29.310
they used perfilactics. Yes. In case anyone doesn't

01:59:29.310 --> 01:59:34.449
know, that's rubbers. Yeah. Yeah. There were

01:59:34.449 --> 01:59:36.489
a lot of grunge bands that were posers. I think

01:59:36.489 --> 01:59:40.520
Bush were posers. Hello, this is Phineas J. Altaris

01:59:40.520 --> 01:59:44.079
III. I'm here to deliver your music news this

01:59:44.079 --> 01:59:50.979
evening. Faith No More and Mr. Bungle lead singer

01:59:50.979 --> 01:59:54.140
Mike Patton was falsely identified as a sexual

01:59:54.140 --> 01:59:57.520
predator in Ohio. A person that has Mike's same

01:59:57.520 --> 02:00:00.100
name confused Google AI and then identified the

02:00:00.100 --> 02:00:02.840
singer as the predator. Mike Patton, the singer,

02:00:02.979 --> 02:00:05.720
is working on getting the false information scrubbed

02:00:05.720 --> 02:00:08.779
off the internet. This is only the tip of the

02:00:08.779 --> 02:00:14.840
iceberg. This is Phineas J. Baltaris III. That

02:00:14.840 --> 02:00:17.939
has been your music news for this evening. I

02:00:17.939 --> 02:00:21.000
have one burning question for you all. Do people

02:00:21.000 --> 02:00:26.199
really skip around the Maypole? Yeah. Oh, gosh,

02:00:26.199 --> 02:00:30.640
yeah. Yeah. Beastie Boys, I consider posers and

02:00:30.640 --> 02:00:38.359
phonies. Man, it's about all I can come up with

02:00:38.359 --> 02:00:44.880
at the top of my head. Okay. We're coming up

02:00:44.880 --> 02:00:47.600
on two hours here. I've got another story here

02:00:47.600 --> 02:00:49.239
about string makers, but if you want to save

02:00:49.239 --> 02:00:51.579
that for next time or go ahead and do it. No,

02:00:51.640 --> 02:00:53.600
we can go ahead and do it. Do you feel like hanging

02:00:53.600 --> 02:00:57.060
out more? Sure. Okay, I've got one more. Do it.

02:00:57.180 --> 02:00:59.220
Would Super Tramp have been much bigger if they

02:00:59.220 --> 02:01:02.399
were promoted better? Yes. Yes. I've always felt

02:01:02.399 --> 02:01:05.319
that. Because several of their albums preceding

02:01:05.319 --> 02:01:07.659
Breakfast in America were really damn good. They

02:01:07.659 --> 02:01:10.439
were better. Well, I don't know better. Crime

02:01:10.439 --> 02:01:12.899
of the Century had some awesome hits on it, like

02:01:12.899 --> 02:01:17.859
Bloody Well Right and School. Yeah. Crisis What

02:01:17.859 --> 02:01:22.079
Crisis had some really good songs on it. And

02:01:22.079 --> 02:01:24.819
those were the two right before Breakfast in

02:01:24.819 --> 02:01:28.399
America. Yeah. And then after Breakfast in America,

02:01:28.539 --> 02:01:30.140
they did one other album and they were done.

02:01:30.420 --> 02:01:34.310
Okay. Okay, yeah, all right, so let's go to you.

02:01:34.409 --> 02:01:37.609
All right. I was trying to look up string manufacturers

02:01:37.609 --> 02:01:40.109
because there are only a few companies that really

02:01:40.109 --> 02:01:42.770
make most of the guitar strings. I'm glad you're

02:01:42.770 --> 02:01:45.170
doing this. And then everyone else just buys

02:01:45.170 --> 02:01:48.170
them. It's called the white label market where

02:01:48.170 --> 02:01:51.689
the big manufacturer makes them to somebody else's

02:01:51.689 --> 02:01:54.609
specs and sends them to them in unmarked packaging,

02:01:54.750 --> 02:01:57.689
and then that company marks them up with their

02:01:57.689 --> 02:02:02.239
brand name, et cetera, and sells them. It's like

02:02:02.239 --> 02:02:04.899
a couple of episodes ago, I talked about that

02:02:04.899 --> 02:02:07.640
guitar factory in Indonesia that makes dozens

02:02:07.640 --> 02:02:11.760
of different brands. You and I could get investors

02:02:11.760 --> 02:02:14.579
together and design a guitar and write out all

02:02:14.579 --> 02:02:17.300
the specs and then contact that company, the

02:02:17.300 --> 02:02:19.859
Cortec in Indonesia, and said, here's our new

02:02:19.859 --> 02:02:22.310
guitar company. and we want you to make a guitar

02:02:22.310 --> 02:02:24.210
that looks like this, and here's the logo and

02:02:24.210 --> 02:02:26.109
everything, and they would make it exactly the

02:02:26.109 --> 02:02:27.970
way we want, and then we could sell it as our

02:02:27.970 --> 02:02:30.909
guitar. Even though we have no idea how to make

02:02:30.909 --> 02:02:34.109
a guitar, they would do it for us. So a lot of

02:02:34.109 --> 02:02:36.609
companies do the same with strings or drum heads

02:02:36.609 --> 02:02:40.149
or whatever. They just go to the companies that

02:02:40.149 --> 02:02:41.890
know how to make it well and then put their name

02:02:41.890 --> 02:02:48.840
on it. There are about 39 notable brands. Available

02:02:48.840 --> 02:02:51.920
globally. But in the U .S., there are only six

02:02:51.920 --> 02:02:54.859
major manufacturers of strings. And the rest

02:02:54.859 --> 02:02:58.739
just buy from them. Yeah, okay. Wow. The big

02:02:58.739 --> 02:03:03.300
manufacturers are D 'Addario, Ernie Ball, Fender,

02:03:03.539 --> 02:03:10.520
GHS, La Bella, and Martin. Wow. I remember GHS

02:03:10.520 --> 02:03:12.600
I used to love because of that metallic sound.

02:03:12.899 --> 02:03:16.060
Yeah. And Ernie Ball had the clear. Yeah. Yeah.

02:03:16.649 --> 02:03:19.630
More of an acoustic type maybe sound. Yeah. So

02:03:19.630 --> 02:03:21.989
there's only six of them left now? These are

02:03:21.989 --> 02:03:24.149
the big ones. Okay, those are the ones. And then

02:03:24.149 --> 02:03:29.149
there's some, there's Savaree in France, Roto

02:03:29.149 --> 02:03:33.409
Sound in the UK, and Honebach in Germany, major

02:03:33.409 --> 02:03:36.029
manufacturers. Okay. But we have six here in

02:03:36.029 --> 02:03:40.069
the U .S. D 'Addario is considered the world's

02:03:40.069 --> 02:03:45.069
largest. The industry concentration is, although

02:03:45.069 --> 02:03:48.069
hundreds of brands exist, most strings are produced

02:03:48.069 --> 02:03:53.250
by the six American big six, and then European

02:03:53.250 --> 02:03:55.489
ones a lot, maybe by the European ones, but they

02:03:55.489 --> 02:03:58.750
come out under dozens and dozens and dozens of

02:03:58.750 --> 02:04:00.470
different brand names. Yeah, that's why I was

02:04:00.470 --> 02:04:02.529
surprised, like, the six big ones are making

02:04:02.529 --> 02:04:05.010
all of them kind of like guitars. Yeah. I mean,

02:04:05.029 --> 02:04:08.149
like, Gibson has its own line of guitar strings,

02:04:08.310 --> 02:04:10.789
but they're made by somebody else, and Gibson

02:04:10.789 --> 02:04:13.210
just puts their name on them. Gibson doesn't

02:04:13.210 --> 02:04:15.229
have a factory anywhere making guitar strings.

02:04:15.369 --> 02:04:17.149
They just don't. You know, that makes sense,

02:04:17.189 --> 02:04:20.029
too, honestly. They don't want to do that. They

02:04:20.029 --> 02:04:22.369
want to act like they're in the game, but they

02:04:22.369 --> 02:04:24.470
don't want to actually do it. And I'll tell you

02:04:24.470 --> 02:04:28.409
my guitar string story a little bit later. I

02:04:28.409 --> 02:04:30.090
got a really good one that I remembered. All

02:04:30.090 --> 02:04:33.510
right. As far as longevity, La Bella is considered

02:04:33.510 --> 02:04:37.109
as the oldest continuously family -owned string

02:04:37.109 --> 02:04:39.210
manufacturers in the world, dating back to the

02:04:39.210 --> 02:04:45.430
1800s easily. Really? If not earlier. And then

02:04:45.430 --> 02:04:47.630
you have specialized manufacturers like Aquila

02:04:47.630 --> 02:04:50.430
that focus on specific types of strings like

02:04:50.430 --> 02:04:53.510
nylon or ukulele strings. So it's sort of a specialized

02:04:53.510 --> 02:04:56.810
market. So I tried to look up and see, okay,

02:04:56.869 --> 02:04:59.329
what brands don't make their own string and instead

02:04:59.329 --> 02:05:02.010
buy it from someone else. And I could not get

02:05:02.010 --> 02:05:04.590
the search engine to tell me. I think a lot of

02:05:04.590 --> 02:05:07.939
the companies try to hide that information. If

02:05:07.939 --> 02:05:10.119
you know their strings are coming from that guy

02:05:10.119 --> 02:05:11.779
over there, you just buy them from that guy over

02:05:11.779 --> 02:05:15.079
there. It'd probably be cheaper anyway. So instead,

02:05:15.220 --> 02:05:18.640
I looked up these string manufacturers and tried

02:05:18.640 --> 02:05:22.359
to see what brands they own. So for Ernie Ball,

02:05:22.619 --> 02:05:25.399
they're primarily known for manufacturing high

02:05:25.399 --> 02:05:27.359
-quality electric and acoustic guitar strings

02:05:27.359 --> 02:05:31.659
under the product line Slinky. They have Slinky,

02:05:31.800 --> 02:05:35.680
Super Slinky, Extra Slinky, etc. Bass strings...

02:05:36.119 --> 02:05:39.880
Accessories like picks and straps. They have

02:05:39.880 --> 02:05:43.659
Ernie Ball Music Man, a subsidiary that produces

02:05:43.659 --> 02:05:47.180
premium American -made guitars and basses, including

02:05:47.180 --> 02:05:50.619
iconic models like the Stingray Bass, Silhouette,

02:05:50.739 --> 02:05:54.119
and Axis. I remember when Music Man came out

02:05:54.119 --> 02:05:56.699
with their Stingray Bass in the 70s, everybody

02:05:56.699 --> 02:05:59.220
switched to it. I mean, just about everybody

02:05:59.220 --> 02:06:03.140
switched to it. And then they also own Sterling.

02:06:03.550 --> 02:06:06.149
by Music Man, which was launched in 2008 as a

02:06:06.149 --> 02:06:09.210
division to provide more accessible, budget -friendly,

02:06:09.250 --> 02:06:12.050
imported versions of the Ernie Ball Music Man.

02:06:12.850 --> 02:06:17.229
Now, I have a Sterling Stingray bass. It's a

02:06:17.229 --> 02:06:21.170
five -string. Oh, yeah. And it's like the offset

02:06:21.170 --> 02:06:24.310
Fender design with one giant, massive humbucker

02:06:24.310 --> 02:06:26.680
near the bridge. Okay, I got a question about

02:06:26.680 --> 02:06:28.239
that. So it looks just like a regular Stingray,

02:06:28.340 --> 02:06:31.319
plays great, but it was way less because it's

02:06:31.319 --> 02:06:35.119
the import version. Okay. The bass strings, is

02:06:35.119 --> 02:06:37.340
it an octave string or a bass string that's the

02:06:37.340 --> 02:06:44.439
extra? Well, I mean like on a regular four -string

02:06:44.439 --> 02:06:48.060
bass? Yes. It's the first four strings of the

02:06:48.060 --> 02:06:50.579
guitar, but down an octave. Down an octave, okay.

02:06:50.680 --> 02:06:52.680
So it's E -A -D -G. Yeah, I didn't say that quite

02:06:52.680 --> 02:06:55.239
right. Okay, yeah, yeah, okay. But they're generally

02:06:55.239 --> 02:06:57.340
down an octave from the guitar version. Down

02:06:57.340 --> 02:06:59.079
an octave instead of, okay. Yeah. All right.

02:07:00.439 --> 02:07:03.939
Now Fender is another string manufacturer. Here

02:07:03.939 --> 02:07:06.159
are the brands owned by Fender. The Fender Musical

02:07:06.159 --> 02:07:09.279
Instruments Corporation owns several prominent

02:07:09.279 --> 02:07:11.439
brands in the music industry specializing in

02:07:11.439 --> 02:07:15.289
guitars, amplifiers, and audio equipment. Its

02:07:15.289 --> 02:07:18.550
core active portfolio includes Fender, Squier,

02:07:18.729 --> 02:07:21.729
Jackson, Gretsch, but for fretted instruments

02:07:21.729 --> 02:07:25.510
only. They don't do the Gretsch drums. Charvel,

02:07:25.729 --> 02:07:29.989
EVH, and Bixby, along with the digital audio

02:07:29.989 --> 02:07:34.149
company's PreSonus. Fender is their flagship

02:07:34.149 --> 02:07:38.770
brand for acoustic, electric guitars, basses,

02:07:38.770 --> 02:07:41.789
and amps. Squier is the budget -friendly version.

02:07:42.640 --> 02:07:44.819
Those are all imports, and those are all made

02:07:44.819 --> 02:07:48.960
at the Cortec facility in Indonesia. Jackson,

02:07:49.680 --> 02:07:51.560
known for metal and high -performance guitar.

02:07:52.300 --> 02:07:55.020
Charvel, high -performance rock -oriented guitars.

02:07:55.899 --> 02:07:58.560
Gretsch, specialized in hollow body and semi

02:07:58.560 --> 02:08:01.340
-hollow body and vintage -style guitars. They're

02:08:01.340 --> 02:08:05.840
distributed and produced by Fender, but not completely

02:08:05.840 --> 02:08:09.819
made. EVH, Eddie Van Halen's brand of guitars,

02:08:09.979 --> 02:08:12.750
amps, and gear. owned by you know how many people

02:08:12.750 --> 02:08:14.869
don't know that that stands for eddie van halen

02:08:14.869 --> 02:08:17.750
a lot of them i know i think it's like just some

02:08:17.750 --> 02:08:21.130
just some yeah just some letters uh bigsby the

02:08:21.130 --> 02:08:24.390
iconic tremolo systems and vibrato tails now

02:08:24.390 --> 02:08:27.069
everything on a guitar that they call it tremolo

02:08:27.069 --> 02:08:30.590
is a vibrato yeah i know i yeah but fender screwed

02:08:30.590 --> 02:08:33.689
it up by calling it a tremolo and an actual tremolo

02:08:33.689 --> 02:08:36.590
is completely different than yeah yeah a vibrato

02:08:37.200 --> 02:08:39.439
varies the pitch, which is what the guitar does.

02:08:39.659 --> 02:08:42.020
It actually goes down and pitch and up and down.

02:08:42.079 --> 02:08:44.180
And you got to watch it. I don't know how Richie

02:08:44.180 --> 02:08:45.800
Blackmore, he must have switched his guitars

02:08:45.800 --> 02:08:49.680
out a lot because he used that tremolo religiously.

02:08:49.680 --> 02:08:52.939
Yeah. And it notoriously throws your guitar out

02:08:52.939 --> 02:08:54.819
of tune. It's a problem. Yeah. One of the easiest

02:08:54.819 --> 02:08:56.579
things you can do if it's throwing your guitar

02:08:56.579 --> 02:08:59.699
out of tune is put in more springs. That's probably

02:08:59.699 --> 02:09:01.539
what he did then. I was unaware of that because

02:09:01.539 --> 02:09:05.029
I used to always be, oh, hang on. Here's my tremolo.

02:09:05.369 --> 02:09:08.670
Hang on a second. I'll be right back. I've got

02:09:08.670 --> 02:09:12.250
a Paul Reed Smith that I've had since 2018. And

02:09:12.250 --> 02:09:15.289
it would always come back right into tune. Except

02:09:15.289 --> 02:09:17.569
for the last year or so, it doesn't always do

02:09:17.569 --> 02:09:19.250
that. Because the springs are getting older and

02:09:19.250 --> 02:09:21.350
a little weaker. So I just added another spring.

02:09:22.210 --> 02:09:24.270
Now it's coming back in tune again. I wonder

02:09:24.270 --> 02:09:26.770
if I could do that with the Jackson I got. Probably

02:09:26.770 --> 02:09:29.979
so. with Floyd Brooks too. Yeah. Okay. They generally

02:09:29.979 --> 02:09:32.619
have room for five springs. Yeah. And they generally

02:09:32.619 --> 02:09:34.520
come out for three a minute. That's what I need

02:09:34.520 --> 02:09:36.979
to do then because that way when I tune it, you

02:09:36.979 --> 02:09:39.060
can just bypass all the other bullshit. Yeah.

02:09:39.100 --> 02:09:41.000
You tune it regularly and just leave it. Yeah.

02:09:41.560 --> 02:09:43.500
I mean, you can get it good enough without doing

02:09:43.500 --> 02:09:45.180
it, but if you want it perfectly, you got to

02:09:45.180 --> 02:09:47.579
do it like that. True. That's fine tuning is

02:09:47.579 --> 02:09:49.279
what I'm talking about where you have to, anybody

02:09:49.279 --> 02:09:51.239
out there. Yeah, they turn the little tiny thing.

02:09:51.520 --> 02:09:54.340
Yeah, I hate it. Anyhow. Let's see, they also

02:09:54.340 --> 02:09:56.939
PreSonus, audio interfaces, mixers, and studio

02:09:56.939 --> 02:10:00.619
gear. Other owned and related brands, the Sun

02:10:00.619 --> 02:10:05.880
Amplifier Company. Sun with two N's. Historically

02:10:05.880 --> 02:10:07.880
acquired and sometimes associated with Fender.

02:10:07.920 --> 02:10:11.159
Tacoma Guitars, an acoustic brand that they formerly

02:10:11.159 --> 02:10:15.720
acquired. SWR Sound Corporation, which is bass

02:10:15.720 --> 02:10:20.659
amps. The SWR Working Man bass amp is a pretty

02:10:20.659 --> 02:10:25.239
well -known model. And then, oddly enough, Fender

02:10:25.239 --> 02:10:28.359
itself is owned by somebody else. It's owned

02:10:28.359 --> 02:10:32.840
by Servco Pacific. Okay. Servco Pacific is a

02:10:32.840 --> 02:10:35.819
Hawaiian company. It's Hawaii's largest privately

02:10:35.819 --> 02:10:39.659
held business. Founded in 1919, headquartered

02:10:39.659 --> 02:10:42.239
in Honolulu, with over 2 ,000 employees and 1

02:10:42.239 --> 02:10:47.560
.8 billion plus annual revenue. It operates in

02:10:47.560 --> 02:10:50.260
automotive distribution and retail, which is

02:10:50.260 --> 02:10:53.899
Toyota, Lexus, and Subarus. Uh -huh. In Hawaii

02:10:53.899 --> 02:10:56.619
and Australia. Consumer products and appliance

02:10:56.619 --> 02:10:59.840
distribution. It also is a top 20 U .S. auto

02:10:59.840 --> 02:11:03.060
dealer group. And they own Fender. And they own

02:11:03.060 --> 02:11:06.500
Fender, of course. Key business segments. Automotive.

02:11:06.539 --> 02:11:08.880
Servco is the exclusive distributor for Toyota,

02:11:09.100 --> 02:11:11.880
Lexus, and Subaru in Hawaii. They operate numerous

02:11:11.880 --> 02:11:14.520
dealerships offering sales, servicing, and financing.

02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:17.319
Other ventures. The company holds investments

02:11:17.319 --> 02:11:19.640
in musical instruments, including a majority

02:11:19.640 --> 02:11:21.640
stake in Fender Musical Instruments Corporation.

02:11:22.949 --> 02:11:25.409
Insurance. They maintain insurance brokerage

02:11:25.409 --> 02:11:29.829
offices in Hawaii, Oregon, and Washington. Appliance

02:11:29.829 --> 02:11:31.850
distribution. They distribute brands like General

02:11:31.850 --> 02:11:36.869
Electric, Thermador, and Bosch. Key facts. Recognition.

02:11:36.970 --> 02:11:38.810
Servco has been named one of the best places

02:11:38.810 --> 02:11:41.449
to work in Hawaii for over 15 consecutive years.

02:11:41.609 --> 02:11:44.109
It also recognized as the U .S. best managed

02:11:44.109 --> 02:11:47.430
company, earning gold standard status for six

02:11:47.430 --> 02:11:50.199
consecutive years. That's impressive. The company

02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:54.079
was led for 29 years by CEO Mark Fukunaga, who

02:11:54.079 --> 02:11:56.180
transitioned to executive chair, highlighting

02:11:56.180 --> 02:11:59.060
a focus on long -term growth and, as shown on

02:11:59.060 --> 02:12:01.539
their YouTube channel, strategic planning. Fukunaga

02:12:01.539 --> 02:12:05.960
is also responsible for the city in Japan. It

02:12:05.960 --> 02:12:09.880
was named after him. Yeah. Yes. Anyhow, sorry.

02:12:10.000 --> 02:12:13.539
I had to. Company culture, core values include

02:12:13.539 --> 02:12:16.800
respect, service, teamwork, and innovation. Now,

02:12:16.859 --> 02:12:20.979
back in 1919 when they were founded, they started

02:12:20.979 --> 02:12:25.920
as a two -car repair garage on Oahu. Really?

02:12:26.680 --> 02:12:30.659
A two -car repair garage. They could repair two

02:12:30.659 --> 02:12:33.359
cars at the same time. Now they're a diversified

02:12:33.359 --> 02:12:36.060
multinational corporation. Wow. And they own

02:12:36.060 --> 02:12:38.060
Fender. That's hard to believe. Isn't it something?

02:12:39.079 --> 02:12:42.159
You talk about sticking to your guns and fighting

02:12:42.159 --> 02:12:46.850
through it. Yeah. Wow. GHS. You're talking about

02:12:46.850 --> 02:12:48.630
GHS, the good metallic sound. The boomers, yeah,

02:12:48.810 --> 02:12:50.909
you should love that. Man, if you wanted that

02:12:50.909 --> 02:12:53.609
metal sound, you want to sound like Warren Demartini

02:12:53.609 --> 02:12:56.090
or something like that, you got them. And I think

02:12:56.090 --> 02:12:58.369
they had a bass string line called Boomers. They

02:12:58.369 --> 02:13:01.489
did. Yeah. GHS Boomers, and I like those a lot

02:13:01.489 --> 02:13:03.930
too. Yeah. The only thing is they would really

02:13:03.930 --> 02:13:06.510
chap your fingers. If you didn't use a pick,

02:13:06.649 --> 02:13:09.010
you had to callous them up really good. Yeah,

02:13:09.010 --> 02:13:11.640
they tend to heat up your fingers. They do. Okay,

02:13:11.680 --> 02:13:14.960
GHS refers to several different unrelated entities

02:13:14.960 --> 02:13:18.180
rather than a single major conglomerate. Isn't

02:13:18.180 --> 02:13:21.560
that weird? I didn't know that. Key companies

02:13:21.560 --> 02:13:24.359
include GHS Strings, which is Guitar Strings

02:13:24.359 --> 02:13:28.779
and Rocktron. GHS Lift, Boat Hydraulic Lifts.

02:13:30.699 --> 02:13:34.060
I actually think I worked with those and had

02:13:34.060 --> 02:13:37.539
no idea it was the same fucking company. GHS

02:13:37.539 --> 02:13:41.399
Holdings, H -Dry Technologies. Okay. GHS Studio,

02:13:41.720 --> 02:13:50.520
which is pet beds. And GHSLTD, which is tubbies

02:13:50.520 --> 02:13:55.899
and racetrack restaurants. I know there's racetrack

02:13:55.899 --> 02:14:02.300
restaurants inside the racetrack gas stations.

02:14:02.300 --> 02:14:05.220
I think so. Yeah. Is it Checker? Yeah, yeah,

02:14:05.220 --> 02:14:07.659
yeah. I think it is. Okay. So they break them

02:14:07.659 --> 02:14:09.800
down a little more. GHS Strings produces musical

02:14:09.800 --> 02:14:12.300
instrument strings and owns Rocktron, which is

02:14:12.300 --> 02:14:15.779
guitar electronics. Okay. GHS Lift is marine

02:14:15.779 --> 02:14:18.619
and industrial, specializes in hydraulic platform

02:14:18.619 --> 02:14:23.220
lift for boat manufacturers. GHS Holdings is

02:14:23.220 --> 02:14:26.000
apparel tech, represents H -Dry waterproof and

02:14:26.000 --> 02:14:30.859
breathable apparel technology. It's insane. GHS

02:14:30.859 --> 02:14:35.460
LTD Retail Food in the UK owns Tubby's Dessert

02:14:35.460 --> 02:14:39.479
Lab. Vaped for you in Racetrack Pit Stop. All

02:14:39.479 --> 02:14:44.100
eating places. Okay. Then that would be Racetrack.

02:14:44.300 --> 02:14:47.920
Racetrack's pit stop is inside. Yeah. Okay. So

02:14:47.920 --> 02:14:51.039
GHS Studio, which is Home Goods, produces pet

02:14:51.039 --> 02:14:54.340
beds in collaboration with Silent Night. Okay.

02:14:54.380 --> 02:14:58.119
And GHS Corporation Industrial owns Palatech

02:14:58.119 --> 02:15:01.539
Air Compressors and Sullivan Industries. Have

02:15:01.539 --> 02:15:03.739
you seen those compressors that they drag around

02:15:03.739 --> 02:15:07.460
behind trucks that say Solair? Yeah. That's them.

02:15:07.600 --> 02:15:14.039
That's them. Owned by GHS. Okay. Yeah, it is.

02:15:14.220 --> 02:15:17.180
D 'Addario, main manufacturer of musical instruments

02:15:17.180 --> 02:15:20.380
and accessories, owning prominent brands including

02:15:20.380 --> 02:15:23.920
Evans Drumheads, Promark Drumsticks, Rico Reeds

02:15:23.920 --> 02:15:26.699
for woodwinds, Pure Sound Snare Wire, and National

02:15:26.699 --> 02:15:30.000
Picks. They also produce D 'Addario accessories

02:15:30.000 --> 02:15:33.449
formerly marketed under Planet Waves. I remember

02:15:33.449 --> 02:15:37.029
Planet Waves. I do too. D 'Addario orchestral,

02:15:37.510 --> 02:15:40.590
including supersensitive strings and HQ percussion.

02:15:42.369 --> 02:15:47.930
Detailed breakdown. D 'Addario fretted and orchestral.

02:15:48.369 --> 02:15:50.689
It would be strings for acoustic, electro, classical,

02:15:50.789 --> 02:15:53.449
and all bass guitars, as well as violins, cellos,

02:15:53.449 --> 02:15:57.590
and other orchestral instruments. Evans drumheads.

02:15:57.689 --> 02:16:00.289
They were acquired in the 1990s, offering a wide

02:16:00.289 --> 02:16:04.020
range of drumheads. Promark drumsticks, which

02:16:04.020 --> 02:16:07.819
they acquired in 2011, specializing in drumsticks

02:16:07.819 --> 02:16:10.840
and percussion accessories. Now, I use Promark

02:16:10.840 --> 02:16:14.819
drumsticks, but since D 'Addario took them over,

02:16:14.899 --> 02:16:18.640
they've cut down on the number of different models

02:16:18.640 --> 02:16:21.119
they offer, and some of the ones I like, they

02:16:21.119 --> 02:16:25.239
don't offer anymore. So that makes me sad. Rico

02:16:25.239 --> 02:16:28.020
Reeds, acquired in 2004, a leading brand for

02:16:28.020 --> 02:16:31.970
woodwind reeds. D 'Addario Accessories, formerly

02:16:31.970 --> 02:16:34.889
Planet Waves, guitar straps, cables, tuners,

02:16:34.909 --> 02:16:38.450
and maintenance products. Pure Sound Percussion,

02:16:38.530 --> 02:16:41.489
acquired in 2007, known for high -quality snare

02:16:41.489 --> 02:16:45.170
wires. Super Sensitive Musical String Company,

02:16:45.270 --> 02:16:47.870
acquired in 2020, known for Red Label and other

02:16:47.870 --> 02:16:50.989
educational orchestral strings. National Picks,

02:16:51.069 --> 02:16:53.790
acquired five years ago, specializing in metal

02:16:53.790 --> 02:16:57.450
finger picks for like banjo and other styles.

02:16:58.610 --> 02:17:01.870
HQ Percussion for practice pads and other business

02:17:01.870 --> 02:17:05.370
units, G -Bass .com, an online marketplace for

02:17:05.370 --> 02:17:08.850
vintage and used gear, and Sensory Percussion,

02:17:08.930 --> 02:17:12.389
an electronic drumming technology line. So they

02:17:12.389 --> 02:17:17.149
focus mostly on musical. GHS is all over the

02:17:17.149 --> 02:17:21.450
place. I cannot believe what they fuck. And Fender's

02:17:21.450 --> 02:17:23.549
owner is all over the place. Yeah, both of them.

02:17:23.870 --> 02:17:26.049
But, you know, I started thinking about that.

02:17:28.030 --> 02:17:30.309
Like 100 years ago, if you had a business that,

02:17:30.350 --> 02:17:34.670
say, made cloth fabric for clothing manufacturers,

02:17:35.010 --> 02:17:38.450
and you made the same fabric, and you made it

02:17:38.450 --> 02:17:40.290
all the time, you had the same customers, and

02:17:40.290 --> 02:17:43.670
your business made like 20 million profit a year.

02:17:44.889 --> 02:17:46.930
That was good enough. As long as you had a steady

02:17:46.930 --> 02:17:49.469
income, steady return, everyone loved that. Well,

02:17:49.510 --> 02:17:52.510
they started gobbling stuff up is what it was.

02:17:52.610 --> 02:17:54.409
Hey, this is a good deal. They probably got some

02:17:54.409 --> 02:17:56.850
financial people. They said, hey, this is a good

02:17:56.850 --> 02:17:58.690
deal. We can make money off of this. And they

02:17:58.690 --> 02:18:00.690
actually became something completely different

02:18:00.690 --> 02:18:02.829
than what they started. It happens all the time.

02:18:03.690 --> 02:18:07.120
Plus, I think the way business... attitudes changed

02:18:07.120 --> 02:18:10.379
that if you're making a good solid return and

02:18:10.379 --> 02:18:12.840
you're making that same good solid return, well,

02:18:12.899 --> 02:18:14.760
you're stagnating. You're not growing. Therefore,

02:18:14.860 --> 02:18:17.059
you're a loser. And all your investors are going

02:18:17.059 --> 02:18:19.219
to bail on you. The philosophy of big business,

02:18:19.299 --> 02:18:22.040
you're right. Somehow, you have to be constantly

02:18:22.040 --> 02:18:25.819
growing. Yes. Which is why so many of these companies

02:18:25.819 --> 02:18:28.659
overextend and overexpand and fall apart because

02:18:28.659 --> 02:18:31.200
your investors will run for the hills unless

02:18:31.200 --> 02:18:34.559
you keep growing. So if you've got a core business

02:18:34.559 --> 02:18:37.000
and it's really kind of maxed out, the only thing

02:18:37.000 --> 02:18:38.739
you've got left is to buy a different business.

02:18:39.399 --> 02:18:41.079
You know, it's like, oh, well, we manufacture

02:18:41.079 --> 02:18:43.940
this, you know, this cloth for clothing manufacturing,

02:18:43.940 --> 02:18:47.000
but that's pretty much maxed out and it's not

02:18:47.000 --> 02:18:49.340
growing. So we're going to buy this company over

02:18:49.340 --> 02:18:51.659
here that makes traffic cones. And look, this

02:18:51.659 --> 02:18:54.180
business is growing. So we are a growing business.

02:18:54.260 --> 02:18:56.500
So we get to claim that and we get more investment.

02:18:57.100 --> 02:18:59.920
Then when that traffic cone business levels off,

02:18:59.979 --> 02:19:01.139
it's like, all right, we're going to buy this

02:19:01.139 --> 02:19:03.739
company that makes the equipment for cotton candy.

02:19:04.780 --> 02:19:07.040
And then just on and on and on like that. And

02:19:07.040 --> 02:19:10.059
it's constantly networking. Dump this because

02:19:10.059 --> 02:19:13.190
it's not making money anymore. So you're not

02:19:13.190 --> 02:19:15.889
really growing. It's like a physical stock market.

02:19:16.069 --> 02:19:18.969
Yeah. It's like somebody jumping up and down

02:19:18.969 --> 02:19:21.370
on a trampoline. And every time they jump up

02:19:21.370 --> 02:19:22.930
in the air, they say, look, we're getting higher.

02:19:23.110 --> 02:19:25.270
And then they fall back down and hit the trampoline

02:19:25.270 --> 02:19:27.129
and jump up again and say, look, see, we're higher.

02:19:27.389 --> 02:19:30.329
Yeah. They're trying to add up all the gains,

02:19:30.510 --> 02:19:33.129
but they're not counting all the losses. Before,

02:19:33.290 --> 02:19:34.930
they're like, oh, we made $20 million. Cool.

02:19:35.090 --> 02:19:36.510
All right. Well, we're doing something right.

02:19:36.670 --> 02:19:38.450
Then they try to figure out their own business

02:19:38.450 --> 02:19:40.889
of getting bigger. But instead of their own business

02:19:40.889 --> 02:19:42.829
doing things bigger and better, they're like,

02:19:42.909 --> 02:19:45.350
hey, let's grab this business and nurture it

02:19:45.350 --> 02:19:49.930
up. Yeah. It's easier to have. Like 15 different

02:19:49.930 --> 02:19:53.190
modestly successful businesses, and if one fails,

02:19:53.190 --> 02:19:55.809
you can replace it with something. Or one big

02:19:55.809 --> 02:19:58.090
modestly successful business, and if something

02:19:58.090 --> 02:20:01.090
goes wrong with it, you're sunk. It's much better

02:20:01.090 --> 02:20:04.129
to diversify. And as long as something in your

02:20:04.129 --> 02:20:06.850
company is making money, that's what you point

02:20:06.850 --> 02:20:09.110
to and talk about. And say, oh look investors,

02:20:09.489 --> 02:20:11.430
I'm making money, I'm growing, I'm getting bigger.

02:20:11.899 --> 02:20:14.040
And then all your failings, well, you just distribute

02:20:14.040 --> 02:20:16.620
the money around and charge it off to this or

02:20:16.620 --> 02:20:18.879
that and you hide it and you launder it. You

02:20:18.879 --> 02:20:20.760
try not to pay taxes and you don't tell your

02:20:20.760 --> 02:20:23.020
investors about it. That's a big part of buying

02:20:23.020 --> 02:20:24.100
a business. You write it down as, well, this

02:20:24.100 --> 02:20:26.559
was an investment into this. So actually it was

02:20:26.559 --> 02:20:28.940
a loss on this marketing campaign, but you just

02:20:28.940 --> 02:20:31.139
ascribed it to that business over there and called

02:20:31.139 --> 02:20:34.280
it investment so everyone's cool with it. It's

02:20:34.280 --> 02:20:38.120
the way to lie to your investors. Yeah. So businesses

02:20:38.120 --> 02:20:40.680
aren't really doing what's best for business.

02:20:40.819 --> 02:20:44.000
They're doing what's going to make them the most

02:20:44.000 --> 02:20:45.899
money in the short term and keep the investors

02:20:45.899 --> 02:20:47.840
interested. Exactly, and that's all the whole

02:20:47.840 --> 02:20:51.280
name of it is, is to keep people engaged and

02:20:51.280 --> 02:20:54.020
going, hey, you know, yeah, the worst thing they

02:20:54.020 --> 02:20:55.879
want is a bunch of people bailing and the stock

02:20:55.879 --> 02:21:03.120
price going to nothing. Yeah. So, yeah. Weatherhead,

02:21:03.180 --> 02:21:05.659
how did you get that name? Oh, yeah. Explain

02:21:05.659 --> 02:21:07.940
who Weatherhead is first. Okay, Weatherhead was

02:21:07.940 --> 02:21:11.479
a band I joined in the mid -90s. At the time,

02:21:11.479 --> 02:21:15.399
it was a cover band. The previous drummer left,

02:21:15.579 --> 02:21:19.319
I forget why. Because it was a cover band? Yeah,

02:21:19.379 --> 02:21:22.819
it could have been. I don't know. But the band

02:21:22.819 --> 02:21:28.219
was considering the name 1976, which at the time

02:21:28.219 --> 02:21:30.860
was the prefix you would dial to get one of those

02:21:30.860 --> 02:21:34.700
online... phone sex lines where you would pay

02:21:34.700 --> 02:21:37.879
$5 for the first minute and $2 every additional

02:21:37.879 --> 02:21:41.600
minute, and they all started with 1976. Oh, okay.

02:21:41.840 --> 02:21:43.940
So that was going to be the name, and we actually

02:21:43.940 --> 02:21:46.639
performed once or twice under that name, trying

02:21:46.639 --> 02:21:48.459
to think of another one. I mean, the bass player's

02:21:48.459 --> 02:21:50.200
wife was like, oh, hell no, you're not going

02:21:50.200 --> 02:21:52.100
to be that. You're not going to call yourselves

02:21:52.100 --> 02:21:54.120
that. You've got to come up with a different

02:21:54.120 --> 02:21:55.899
name. That's too bad. What a genius name. I love

02:21:55.899 --> 02:21:57.600
that name. They even had promotional material

02:21:57.600 --> 02:22:02.760
already started made of stuff. So there was one,

02:22:02.879 --> 02:22:06.659
we played a New Year's Eve gig, and somebody

02:22:06.659 --> 02:22:08.639
opened a bottle of champagne next to my drums

02:22:08.639 --> 02:22:10.620
and sprayed them all with the sticky champagne.

02:22:11.440 --> 02:22:15.139
So the next morning, it was a Sunday, it was

02:22:15.139 --> 02:22:17.100
a New Year's Day, and there were football games

02:22:17.100 --> 02:22:19.520
on. I pulled all my drums up out of the basement

02:22:19.520 --> 02:22:22.719
and put them all out of their cases, and I stripped

02:22:22.719 --> 02:22:24.940
all the heads and hardware off, and I was cleaning

02:22:24.940 --> 02:22:28.569
them all up with furniture polish. and on the

02:22:28.569 --> 02:22:31.610
TV was the Cleveland Browns playing somebody,

02:22:31.729 --> 02:22:35.809
and they had a receiver named Weathers. I don't

02:22:35.809 --> 02:22:37.389
know if it was Carl Weathers, Clarence Weathers,

02:22:37.450 --> 02:22:39.709
something like that. I think it was Clarence.

02:22:40.030 --> 02:22:42.030
Clarence, because Carl Weathers was the actor.

02:22:42.149 --> 02:22:44.510
Yeah, the actor, yeah. So I was looking at that

02:22:44.510 --> 02:22:47.950
name Weathers, and I was still working at the

02:22:47.950 --> 02:22:50.149
post office at the time, so I was very interested

02:22:50.149 --> 02:22:52.549
in the daily weather, since I had to walk around

02:22:52.549 --> 02:22:55.040
in it all day. Yeah. So I started thinking the

02:22:55.040 --> 02:22:56.760
name Weather, you know, and I remember there

02:22:56.760 --> 02:23:00.340
was a jazz band called Weather Report. Okay.

02:23:00.420 --> 02:23:03.180
There was a homegrown terrorist group in the

02:23:03.180 --> 02:23:06.340
60s called Weather Underground. Okay. They joined

02:23:06.340 --> 02:23:10.559
up, I think, with... God, who did they join up

02:23:10.559 --> 02:23:12.479
with? It wasn't the Black Panthers, but it was

02:23:12.479 --> 02:23:17.500
somebody else. Anyway, so Weather was kind of

02:23:17.500 --> 02:23:20.409
on my mind. And then I was putting all my drums

02:23:20.409 --> 02:23:22.430
back together, and I was looking at these drum

02:23:22.430 --> 02:23:26.069
heads that say Remo Weather King Drum Head. And

02:23:26.069 --> 02:23:28.469
I thought, well, there's weather again. And then

02:23:28.469 --> 02:23:31.350
I saw, well, head, drum head, weather, head.

02:23:31.629 --> 02:23:33.930
They both have the E -A. They're both pronounced

02:23:33.930 --> 02:23:36.510
the same. And it really doesn't mean anything,

02:23:36.670 --> 02:23:38.489
you know, weather head. What the heck's a weather

02:23:38.489 --> 02:23:41.629
head? So I thought, well, that kind of sounds

02:23:41.629 --> 02:23:45.389
good. I wrote it as one bird, but the H in head

02:23:45.389 --> 02:23:48.629
was capitalized. So that kind of made it a little

02:23:48.629 --> 02:23:51.729
different. And I proposed it to the band, and

02:23:51.729 --> 02:23:53.729
nobody was really all that excited about it.

02:23:54.030 --> 02:23:59.190
But we wound up picking it because, one, no one

02:23:59.190 --> 02:24:01.649
really objected to it, and two, nobody else had

02:24:01.649 --> 02:24:07.690
it. So we started looking up to see if anybody

02:24:07.690 --> 02:24:09.790
else had Weatherhead, and that's when we learned

02:24:09.790 --> 02:24:12.969
where the Weatherhead actually is. You see like

02:24:12.969 --> 02:24:15.909
a pipe sticking up out of the top building with

02:24:15.909 --> 02:24:18.350
electrical wires coming out of it. That's a weather

02:24:18.350 --> 02:24:21.809
head? And the part on the end of that pipe that

02:24:21.809 --> 02:24:24.250
keeps the rain and the snow and shit from blowing

02:24:24.250 --> 02:24:26.690
in, that is the weather head. I'll be damned.

02:24:26.909 --> 02:24:30.549
So you've heard of a bulkhead and a wellhead.

02:24:31.170 --> 02:24:33.510
Well, this is a weather head. It's supposed to

02:24:33.510 --> 02:24:35.370
stop the weather from entering through the same

02:24:35.370 --> 02:24:37.209
pipe that your electrical wires are running into.

02:24:37.709 --> 02:24:40.370
I want to name a band Dickhead. Yeah, there you

02:24:40.370 --> 02:24:43.290
go. I like it. That's pretty good. All right.

02:24:43.309 --> 02:24:45.190
I was always wondering. It has a unique name.

02:24:45.329 --> 02:24:48.389
Makes sense. But interestingly enough, a few

02:24:48.389 --> 02:24:51.129
years back, I was doing an online search for

02:24:51.129 --> 02:24:53.530
Weatherhead, thinking I might find some old videos

02:24:53.530 --> 02:24:57.049
or pictures or recordings or something. There

02:24:57.049 --> 02:24:59.010
are a number of different companies that use

02:24:59.010 --> 02:25:02.250
the name Weatherhead now. There were none back

02:25:02.250 --> 02:25:05.629
in the 90s when we were there. Yep. So if we

02:25:05.629 --> 02:25:09.020
had made a... going of this, you know, we might

02:25:09.020 --> 02:25:10.940
have had to battle some other companies for the

02:25:10.940 --> 02:25:15.120
Weatherhead name. I don't know. But we rode that

02:25:15.120 --> 02:25:17.420
name for a while and then eventually the band

02:25:17.420 --> 02:25:22.299
fired me because I was getting migraines a lot

02:25:22.299 --> 02:25:25.399
and I was getting unreliable. And then they hired

02:25:25.399 --> 02:25:29.420
somebody else and he didn't quite work out and

02:25:29.420 --> 02:25:31.239
they kept it going for another six, eight months

02:25:31.239 --> 02:25:33.159
and then they all split off and went to separate.

02:25:34.090 --> 02:25:37.549
separate projects. The singer went on to do Musical

02:25:37.549 --> 02:25:44.030
Blades which was a pirate singing group and kind

02:25:44.030 --> 02:25:47.590
of acting thing. And that has disbanded and now

02:25:47.590 --> 02:25:52.329
he's Plunder .exe and it's still pirate based

02:25:52.329 --> 02:25:56.090
but he's using AI to help write the songs, perform

02:25:56.090 --> 02:26:00.049
the music and make the videos. The bass player

02:26:00.049 --> 02:26:04.559
went on to do a lot of tribute bands. He was

02:26:04.559 --> 02:26:10.040
in an ACDC tribute band here in town. Was it

02:26:10.040 --> 02:26:12.540
KCDC? I think it was. They were really good.

02:26:12.719 --> 02:26:15.040
And the singer died, so they decided instead

02:26:15.040 --> 02:26:17.239
of trying to replace him, they just moved on.

02:26:17.940 --> 02:26:25.059
He's in Boogie Nights KC. He's in Petty Thieves,

02:26:25.139 --> 02:26:29.180
a Tom Petty tribute band. Nice. And the Silver

02:26:29.180 --> 02:26:31.659
Bullets, or Silver Bullet Band, which is a Bob

02:26:31.659 --> 02:26:34.180
Seger tribute band. So he's heavily into the

02:26:34.180 --> 02:26:38.000
tribute band circuit. Very cool. And then John

02:26:38.000 --> 02:26:42.239
Axford, the guitar player, he started joining

02:26:42.239 --> 02:26:45.100
a number of local cover bands, and then I kind

02:26:45.100 --> 02:26:47.780
of lost track of him. Okay. He stopped returning

02:26:47.780 --> 02:26:53.340
my messages and things. Recently, I've seen him

02:26:53.340 --> 02:26:55.579
on Facebook. He's selling off a lot of his musical

02:26:55.579 --> 02:26:58.370
equipment. A lot of PA stuff. He's just not doing

02:26:58.370 --> 02:27:00.329
it anymore. I think he's kind of done playing

02:27:00.329 --> 02:27:04.229
out and performing live. Uh -huh. He's probably

02:27:04.229 --> 02:27:07.069
five to six years older than me, so he's over

02:27:07.069 --> 02:27:11.290
70, I imagine, at this point in his life. Oh,

02:27:11.389 --> 02:27:14.750
probably so. I will tell my guitar string story

02:27:14.750 --> 02:27:18.010
next time. Okay. Because, yeah, that way I've

02:27:18.010 --> 02:27:21.139
got another story and I got the... the Simpson

02:27:21.139 --> 02:27:24.399
story, and the top disco songs ever. Awesome.

02:27:24.520 --> 02:27:26.780
For next one. So that's a good start for next

02:27:26.780 --> 02:27:29.379
week. So, yeah. I think we've probably done enough

02:27:29.379 --> 02:27:32.120
this week. Probably. And my guitar string story

02:27:32.120 --> 02:27:34.360
isn't that extraordinary. Okay. It's just cool.

02:27:34.540 --> 02:27:38.440
But it's not like, wow. So, eh, fuck it. I'll

02:27:38.440 --> 02:27:40.540
tell it. Plus, I need to pee real bad. Oh, okay.

02:27:40.620 --> 02:27:42.579
I won't. Let me hit pause for a second. No, no,

02:27:42.579 --> 02:27:44.479
no. Let's just go in there. Okay. All right.

02:27:45.120 --> 02:27:46.760
Thank you, everybody, for listening. Our numbers

02:27:46.760 --> 02:27:49.440
are growing because you guys are being so cool

02:27:49.440 --> 02:27:51.600
and telling everybody. We can't thank you guys

02:27:51.600 --> 02:27:53.639
enough. You guys are amazing. We won that award

02:27:53.639 --> 02:27:56.200
in Australia. Oh, yes, that's right. Yes, best

02:27:56.200 --> 02:28:01.399
non -monetized podcast by a duo. Yes, yes. Actually,

02:28:01.520 --> 02:28:06.120
yeah, at a table that happens between 9 and 3.

02:28:06.739 --> 02:28:09.719
Yeah, that was great. Yeah, number one. Yeah,

02:28:09.719 --> 02:28:12.659
number one. But we would like to get more downloads

02:28:12.659 --> 02:28:15.280
in Australia. So if anybody in Australia or knows

02:28:15.280 --> 02:28:17.340
somebody in Australia listening, we would like

02:28:17.340 --> 02:28:18.959
to get some more downloads. We finally broke

02:28:18.959 --> 02:28:21.219
into South America. Yeah, yeah. That was awesome.

02:28:21.219 --> 02:28:23.479
In a big way. And we blame the lady that we talked

02:28:23.479 --> 02:28:26.719
to down here. Yeah. Someone listens to us on

02:28:26.719 --> 02:28:28.520
the coastal highway there. I can tell you that

02:28:28.520 --> 02:28:30.500
because all the hits are straight up and down.

02:28:30.540 --> 02:28:33.139
We have some everywhere else, but straight up

02:28:33.139 --> 02:28:35.020
and down that highway, someone likes us. I can

02:28:35.020 --> 02:28:36.860
tell you that. Probably a trucker. I don't know.

02:28:37.059 --> 02:28:39.840
And we actually have some downloads in Russia,

02:28:40.040 --> 02:28:43.000
too. Yeah. That's pretty amazing. Yeah. Well,

02:28:43.079 --> 02:28:45.360
they convert us to Russian, you know, the language.

02:28:45.840 --> 02:28:48.180
I wonder what two douchebags and a microphone

02:28:48.180 --> 02:28:52.959
sounds like in Russian. Just as bad. Yeah. Anyhow,

02:28:52.959 --> 02:28:57.899
thank you. I forgot to do my thing of other countries'

02:28:58.000 --> 02:29:00.040
version of the expression, I don't give a fuck.

02:29:00.299 --> 02:29:02.399
Oh, yeah, yeah. We've got to do that before we

02:29:02.399 --> 02:29:09.180
go. Yes, we do. Okay. There are a lot of countries

02:29:09.180 --> 02:29:11.280
around the world that have a similar expression

02:29:11.280 --> 02:29:14.700
to the American expression of, I don't give a

02:29:14.700 --> 02:29:18.030
fuck. So somebody went and found out what their

02:29:18.030 --> 02:29:20.510
equivalent expression is and translated it into

02:29:20.510 --> 02:29:25.690
English. So in Germany, instead of saying, I

02:29:25.690 --> 02:29:27.790
don't give a fuck, they say, it's sausage to

02:29:27.790 --> 02:29:33.129
me. Okay. You figure Germans and sausage. Okay.

02:29:33.389 --> 02:29:36.110
In Spain, they don't say, I don't give a fuck.

02:29:36.129 --> 02:29:41.110
They say, I care a cucumber. That's pretty close.

02:29:41.309 --> 02:29:44.690
Yes. In the Netherlands, where they speak Dutch.

02:29:45.309 --> 02:29:50.110
They say, it can oxidize on my anus. That's my

02:29:50.110 --> 02:29:51.950
favorite. So I guess you could say it can rust

02:29:51.950 --> 02:29:55.049
on my ass. Rust on my ass, yeah. Okay, in France,

02:29:55.350 --> 02:30:00.030
they say, I slap my balls on it. That's probably

02:30:00.030 --> 02:30:01.909
the coolest thing the French ever did. It's probably.

02:30:03.129 --> 02:30:06.229
In Finland, they say, it interests me as much

02:30:06.229 --> 02:30:13.940
as a kilogram of shit. And then your homeland,

02:30:14.299 --> 02:30:17.239
the beautiful Greek Isles. Yes. Instead of saying,

02:30:17.299 --> 02:30:19.879
I don't give a fuck, they say, flowers on my

02:30:19.879 --> 02:30:24.440
dick and bees all around. That's got to be my

02:30:24.440 --> 02:30:30.399
favorite. Yes. You see, I thought it was still

02:30:30.399 --> 02:30:34.760
Malacca. Malacca was the catch -all. And I'll

02:30:34.760 --> 02:30:36.799
tell my Malacca story here real quick. Okay.

02:30:37.120 --> 02:30:40.559
Okay. There was this job site that the owners

02:30:40.559 --> 02:30:43.340
were Christian. This is my old job. And they

02:30:43.340 --> 02:30:45.780
didn't want anyone cussing on them. So I was

02:30:45.780 --> 02:30:47.840
like, you know what? I know some Greek cuss words.

02:30:48.879 --> 02:30:51.879
So Malacca is like one of the worst things you

02:30:51.879 --> 02:30:54.000
can say, but it's a catch -all. If you wanted

02:30:54.000 --> 02:30:56.760
to say cocksucker, dickface, anything, that's

02:30:56.760 --> 02:30:58.360
what it is. You say Malacca and they're like,

02:30:58.399 --> 02:31:00.700
ooh. You know, you pulled out the Malacca card.

02:31:00.840 --> 02:31:03.840
Well, there's this guy being a real dick. And

02:31:03.840 --> 02:31:07.979
I go, that guy's a Malacca. The foreman was Greek.

02:31:09.899 --> 02:31:13.280
Then I got to looking at him like, oh, I see

02:31:13.280 --> 02:31:16.680
it now. And he was not happy. He goes, what?

02:31:17.540 --> 02:31:21.659
And I go, he goes, what'd you say? And I kind

02:31:21.659 --> 02:31:23.500
of got the feeling he knew what it was. I go,

02:31:23.559 --> 02:31:27.059
Malacca, get out of here. I'm like, what? He

02:31:27.059 --> 02:31:28.840
goes, yeah. He goes, I'm Greek. I'm like, oh

02:31:28.840 --> 02:31:32.840
shit. Then I tried to pull the green card. Well,

02:31:32.840 --> 02:31:35.860
so get out of here. I said Chewbacca. I really,

02:31:35.899 --> 02:31:39.040
I said Chewbacca. Yeah. If I would have known,

02:31:39.139 --> 02:31:41.260
but anyhow, I thought I was going to get a warning

02:31:41.260 --> 02:31:43.420
or something, but I got back in there. Yeah.

02:31:43.479 --> 02:31:46.620
I apologize. I said, listen, I said, nobody else

02:31:46.620 --> 02:31:48.760
knew except me and you, right? Okay. Yeah. Well,

02:31:48.819 --> 02:31:50.520
nobody knows I cussed, right? He said, yeah.

02:31:50.559 --> 02:31:52.719
He said, don't do it again. The owners are adamant

02:31:52.719 --> 02:31:54.639
about cuss words. I'm like, okay. All right.

02:31:55.819 --> 02:31:58.139
Yeah, yeah, I got busted big time. But you can

02:31:58.139 --> 02:32:00.680
still cuss on American TV as long as it's in

02:32:00.680 --> 02:32:03.399
a different language. They don't believe it or

02:32:03.399 --> 02:32:05.360
anything. And in fact, the closed captioning

02:32:05.360 --> 02:32:07.219
won't even pick it up. They'll just say, speaking

02:32:07.219 --> 02:32:11.219
in foreign language. Isn't that weird? The AI

02:32:11.219 --> 02:32:13.760
on the closed captioning can understand English

02:32:13.760 --> 02:32:16.819
and translate it. And I'm sure over in France,

02:32:16.819 --> 02:32:20.059
they're translating French. And over in Mexico,

02:32:20.219 --> 02:32:22.700
they're translating Spanish. But when it's an

02:32:22.700 --> 02:32:24.819
English -speaking country... and the character

02:32:24.819 --> 02:32:27.399
speaks in any other language, it won't translate

02:32:27.399 --> 02:32:29.360
it. It won't translate. It'll just say, speaking

02:32:29.360 --> 02:32:32.459
in foreign language. Yeah, and I guess they figure

02:32:32.459 --> 02:32:34.340
the... Here's what I think. I've always seen

02:32:34.340 --> 02:32:36.299
that. I think they figure the American public

02:32:36.299 --> 02:32:38.879
doesn't give a shit. Yeah. That's it. And it

02:32:38.879 --> 02:32:40.600
may be for the storyline that we're not supposed

02:32:40.600 --> 02:32:42.299
to know what they said. That could be, too. Yeah.

02:32:42.319 --> 02:32:45.360
So, anyhow. All right. Well, anyhow, thank you

02:32:45.360 --> 02:32:47.579
guys for listening so much. You guys are so amazing.

02:32:48.250 --> 02:32:51.010
And my guitar string story is coming up next

02:32:51.010 --> 02:32:53.889
week. So now you have a real reason to... Okay,

02:32:54.250 --> 02:32:58.049
maybe not. Anyhow, thank you for spreading the

02:32:58.049 --> 02:32:59.409
word and go fuck yourself.