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Hey, my fellow heavy breathers, this is Dash

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Riptide, your music news. Graham Bonnet Band

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is currently working on their fourth album. Graham

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said it's very possible Bruce Dickinson might

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guest on a song or two on his new album. Bruce

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is a big fan of Graham's ever since his days

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in Rainbow. Two fantastic lead singers in one

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song kind of reminds me of Deep Purple's Mark

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III lineup with Glenn Hughes and David Coverdale.

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This should be pretty damn good. We will see.

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This is Gash Riptine, and that was your music

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news. If it's too loud, you probably have ear

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damage, just like me. And we're off. There's

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a drum intro. There it is. Yeah, we're talking

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about drum intros. And I was going to do a list

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of our favorite drum intros. Not the most talented,

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but our favorite drum intros. Yeah, that's a

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better way to do it. Just like really catch you

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right off the bat. Wow. My first example was

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Angry Chair by Alice in Chains. That drum beat

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is very interesting and it leads into a very

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dark, dismal, grindy song with such a smooth,

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easy beat. It fits. Yeah. I mean, it's just like

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no different than Tony Iommi with his instrumentals

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that lead into the dark, dark, dark. Yeah. It's

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the same thing. That's what makes a song heavy,

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is the minor chords with the power chords. It's

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not power chord, power chord, power chord, loud,

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loud, loud. It's soft, build up, large, back

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down. That's what makes a song heavy is not continually.

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Yeah. So it's the same way with drum beats. So

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anyhow, you had an example or two? Yeah. Oh,

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we got our guitar player in the background again.

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Oh, okay, cool. Yeah. All right, we're going

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to have some music here. And he's pretty decent,

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too. I like him. I wish I could tell what kind

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of guitar he's got off. Go look. One of the ones

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I thought of first off the bat was Led Zeppelin,

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When the Levee Breaks. That is so good. It starts

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with, yeah, and then the drum, I mean the bass.

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guitar and harmonica harmonica is so good on

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that first chord it's it's yeah that song is

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someone singing about despair because levy's

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gonna break into and kill them all yeah ruin

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all their land and crops yeah yeah i mean if

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you want a perfect example of blues yeah that's

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the blues when levy breaks i ain't got no place

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to stay make a mountain man leave his home all

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that's cool you know the lyrics that should be

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there are there yeah That was a smart choice

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to start it off with the drums, because if it

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just all came in at once, it would be too much

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of a shocker. Yeah, and John Bonham, less is

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more. That's a great example of his drumming.

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I mean, if he dropped his stick on the drums,

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it would still sound like it had great feeling.

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He couldn't play anything without feeling and

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touch and nuance. He was oozing with it. You

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know, people, you know, Ginger Baker, Krupa,

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all those guys are great, but I always prefer

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Bonham. Yeah. You know, the originality of those

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guys, great and all that, but the real ones,

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the real ones, the ones that catch your attention

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are the ones that are like Bonham that can do

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that. Yeah, they leave stuff out. Yes, they leave

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stuff out. They know what to leave out when.

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Oddly enough, Elton John's first serious drummer,

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Nigel Olsen. Oh, Nigel, yeah, okay. He was very

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good at leaving stuff out, and instead of doing

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a fill, he would just leave empty spaces and

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hit the kick on odd times. Yeah, yeah. And it

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made the song. Yeah, it really did. You know,

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he had to be listening to Bonham. Oh, I would

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say. Same style. Yeah. I met Nigel at a drum

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clinic, and when he was addressing everybody,

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he said, now, I don't do solos. I've never done

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drum solos. I just don't. And Elton John's show

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didn't command a drum solo anymore. A piano solo.

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Yeah, very good. And he said, I'm not a rudiments

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guy. I don't know all the different rudiments

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and things. I just play what I feel. So that's

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all I do and just what I can do. And I thought

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it was pretty impressive. It's like I'm not here

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to impress you with my book knowledge or my flashy

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skills. He's not claiming. It's all about the

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song. Yeah. Yeah. Okay, I like it. Okay, yeah,

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Nigel Olsen, I agree with that. Let's see. I

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had Billion Dollar Babies by Alice Cooper. That's

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a perfect one. Yeah, who was the drummer? Neil

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Smith. Neil Smith, okay. Before he played football.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah, we established that. Back then

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he was like 6 '3 and blonde and a white guy.

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Yeah, yeah. But eventually he started playing

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football and he was, yeah. But yeah, that intro

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with the thumb -whack -whack, thumb -whack -whack,

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da -da -da -da -da -da, and just that off -kilter

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beat really makes the song instantly recognizable.

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I mean, it's one of the hooks, is that drum intro.

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I watched a video the other day about awesome

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drum intros, and that wasn't even listed. The

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guy didn't go back any farther than about 85,

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I don't think. So maybe he was a youngster. Here's

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an interesting one I just thought of. Yeah. It's

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not the most prolific. It's not the most memorable,

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but it does it. And that is the intro to Mental

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Health by Quiet Riot. Oh, yeah. Then you get

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to chords on it. Yeah. Let's see. It's kind of

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like a roll almost, but improvised. And then

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you get to power chords. All right. Yeah. Okay.

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Especially if you're going to start the song

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with the drums, you've got to do something interesting

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and cool. Yeah. Someone's going to drag you in.

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I think a lot of that songwriting is like this.

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What's that? Oh, I don't know. I just made it

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up. Okay, remember that. Yeah. Can you do it

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again? Yeah. Then later on it's like, hey, let's

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take that thing you did yesterday and put it

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in the front of here. Yeah. That's what good

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production is. Absolutely. Yeah. You dismantle

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things and take the best pieces out. Kind of

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way to fit them together. It's very rare that

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a song is written start to finish as a single

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piece. Kind of the opposite of what we do here.

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Yeah. We just take all the crap bits and throw

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them in. Just throw them in there anyhow. Anyhow,

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I mean, we can move on. I had a few more examples.

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Painkiller, Judas Priest. Oh, yeah. That's a

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beast. There was a guy named 6 -6 Samus on YouTube.

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that was doing a video on, I'm going to play

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a challenging drum intro, and then I'm going

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to take a drink. And I play it again. And he

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wanted to see how many shots before he just couldn't

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play it anymore. Oh, I love that. Okay. And the

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intro to Painkiller is what he chose. And after

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about 10, 15 shots, he was still playing it really

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damn well. You could tell he was getting a little

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sloppy with some of the timing and some of the

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things weren't quite as crisp and precise. But

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he said, you know. It's muscle memory. My muscles

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are just taking over. They know what to do. I

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don't even think about it. Yeah. So that was

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kind of a bust for his video, but it was interesting.

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Okay. And he was a lot of fun while he was getting

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drunk. Coincidentally, there's a list that I

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didn't bring with me of lead singers that can

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still bring it, and Rob Halford is at the top.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. It's awesome how he's managed

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to maintain that voice all these years. He still

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does the high notes like he always did, which

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is insane. He's in his 70s. He must have always

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been doing them the right way to not hurt his

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voice. He had to. He wouldn't blow out a candle.

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Yeah. Yeah, I didn't mean to say blow in his

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presence, okay? No. That was not a joke. Extinguish

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a candle. Extinguish a candle. There we go. Thank

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you. Yes. So, okay. It's the Dream Theater on

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their second album. The first song is called

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6 AM. And it starts off with a run down the little

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baby tom. Then it goes down into the rhythm.

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Yeah, and he did that intentionally because on

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their first album, the producer made him use

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drum triggers. So on Dream Theater's first album,

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you're not hearing any of Mike Portnoy's drums.

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You're hearing pre -recorded samples, and they

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just put triggers on his drums. That's why there's

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absolutely zero dynamics on that whole album.

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Wow. And the band hated it, but the record label

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said, nope, this is what we're going to do, and

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you have to do what he says. Oh, I remember a

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little bit about that. Yeah, for like Pull Me

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Under was their first big hit, and the drums

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were all exactly the same volume. Every snare

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hit sounds exactly like every other snare hit

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because it's all sampled. You see, I never was

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impressed with that song. It was too manufactured

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to me. Yeah, yeah. And that's a great example

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right there. But when they got to their second

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album, they got more leeway and a different producer.

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And to celebrate, they started the song and the

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album with a drum intro. So I thought that was

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pretty clever. That is. Another story I picked

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up in the drum clinic directly from Mike Portnoy.

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Oh, okay. He was a fun guy. I mean, he was laughing,

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he was joking, he was cracking everybody up.

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He just seemed like a real fun guy. He does what

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he wants in music. I've always respected him.

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He is not loyal to anything, which is fine. He

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does what he feels like he needs to do, and I

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love it. He's always been like that. He's kind

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of a free spirit, so I could guess that pretty

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easily. I remember at the beginning of the clinic,

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he was giving a little background information.

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He said, oh, I just got married. And one of the

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gals in the audience said, oh. And he looked

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at her and smiled and said, hey, I was looking.

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You weren't there. That's funny. Yeah. A couple

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more that people probably wouldn't know but are

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worth looking up. There's a band called Screamin'

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Cheetah Wheelies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a southern

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rock band. Yeah. Kind of along the same line

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as the Black Crows, but I think better. Better,

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yeah. And they have a song off their album Magnolia

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called I Found Love. And ostensibly from the

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lyrics, it's about him finding the love of Jesus.

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but you can try to read it as a girl, but really

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it's about finding Jesus. But the drum intro

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is amazing. I think the drummer was about the

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best musician in the group. The singer was amazing.

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Everybody else was kind of okay, but the drummer

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was just amazing. That's cool. And then the last

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one I've got, good old Monster Magnets song.

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I think this album is off of... God, I can't

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even remember the name of the album. The song

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is called When the Planes Fall from the Sky.

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The song sounds just like the title would suggest,

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but it's a slow, plodding drum intro. And the

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drums start, and then kind of a minimalist guitar

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comes in and starts chunking along with them.

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And then when it's time, the whole rest of the

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band, along with the bass, comes in and just...

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It just takes you down the hill into this low...

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I think I know what you're talking about, because

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I've loved Monster Magnet, and I'm a fan too.

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We've spoke about this before. One of the best

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things to ever come out of New Jersey is Monster

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Magnet. Yes. And they should have been much bigger.

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The timing. The timing when they came out didn't

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help them. They're enormous over in Europe. They're

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still really big. That's the only place they

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tour is over in Europe. And they have trouble

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finding a record label and distribution in the

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U .S. Well, just like Wasp. Wasp is the same

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way. Glen Hughes is the same way. I mean, they

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do great overseas, but really don't do that much

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here. April Wine never really got much distribution

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or airplay in the U .S., but in Canada they were

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monsters. They were always one of my favorites.

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I mean, they were really, really good. I have

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SATO, which is off Blizzard of Oz, second side.

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And it's a Lee Kerslake. And it's like, it's

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a drum roll followed by soft. It's like... And

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it goes straight into the song. It's really good.

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It's nothing fancy. But it is exactly what the

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song needed. Yeah. It's that perfect intro that

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sets the mood. Yes. Rather than showing off technical

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skills, it sets the mood. Yeah, because this

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is right after like the first, the hard rock

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in... You know, Randy Rhoads, these chords, these

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power chords, the scales. And then you go into

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this, which isn't quite that. It's more of a

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driving song. But it's what it needed. It needed

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that little edge to get you right to it. And

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then he goes completely different on the drums,

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which I really enjoyed. I guess we've got to

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throw Hot for Teacher in there, too. Yeah, I

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actually, that's one of the ones I wrote down.

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Yeah. That thing right there is interesting.

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Yeah. They did not have to do that. Go ahead.

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He's throwing some little funny, funky stuff

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in there. He's playing some sort of rudiment

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between his hands and feet. Yeah, he is, which

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kind of, I used to not like him. Yeah, same here.

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And then I listened to that, and I'm like, that

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guy's really fucking good. yeah yeah i remember

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in the first album it's like there's just i hear

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the same old standard you know hard rock kind

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of stuff but you know the producer was making

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hold it back yeah and then subsequent albums

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came out and i started trying to look past the

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sound of his drums which was kind of hard to

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get used to at first and then what he was actually

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playing and uh uh there was there was a slower

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song they did with sammy um Something about,

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oh, God. Something about give me what you wanted

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or something like that. Yeah, okay, yeah. I'll

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think of the name anyway, but just it was the

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first time I heard him playing with softly in

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the feeling. I was like, wow, okay, he can do

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it. So that impressed me. I was about the same

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as John Bonham. At first I was put off by how

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different it was and how he sounded, but then

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I just started looking past that at what he was

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actually playing. It's like, oh, okay, this guy's

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got some real brain smarts there with drumming.

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He's not just going by the seat of his pants,

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which I did for a lot of my early careers, just

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like, yeah, whatever. I didn't really think about

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it much. Yeah. Okay. You got any more? I think

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that was it. Okay, all right. You got something

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you want to go into? I wrote up a list of some

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record labels from the past and all the big artists

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they had on them, and then a lot of them, all

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of these are defunct now for various reasons.

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But it's pretty interesting when I started going

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over the whole list about how often record labels

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just went out of business or merged with somebody

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else. you know, a roster of good artists. It's

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like, how come you couldn't keep in business?

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But I think there's more going on behind the

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scenes if it makes it a good idea to keep changing.

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I thought of one, and I don't know if it's on

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that list, because they weren't that well -known.

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Casablanca. I was wondering about that, too.

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It wasn't on my list, so they must be still in

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business in some form or another. I'll have to

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look that up. No, they went into BMI. No, no,

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no, no. Polidorm, anyway. That sounds right.

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But yeah, Kiss and Led Zeppelin were both on

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Casablanca. Casablanca, and then they went into

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Polydor. But Led Zeppelin went to Swan Song.

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Swan Song, yeah. And then Kiss, yeah, I think

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it's Polydor gobbled them up. And they're probably

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still like an offshoot of Polydor. But anyhow,

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that's why I asked about them. Yeah, I was surprised

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they weren't on my list anywhere. And then, you

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know, smaller labels. They were disco, too. They

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had a lot of disco acts. Maybe that's, I don't

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know. And I know Elton John started his own label,

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Rocket Records, and it folded in about a year.

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So I don't really count ones like that because

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I never really had a chance. First one I had

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listed was Bang Records. Remember Bang? Vaguely.

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It was the first initial of the first name of

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the four people who started it, B -A -N -G. So

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that's how they got the name. And then I think

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the end. Eventually died and his wife took over.

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Their artist list included Paul Davis, Neil Diamond,

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The Lost Souls, The McCoys, Van Morrison, Nigel

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Olsen, The Strange Loves, Brick, Peebo Bryson,

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and Derek. I forgot that Nigel Olsen had his

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solo out. He had his solo out, yeah. Put on your

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dancing shoes. Oh yeah, yeah. But the guy who

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died and his wife took over, she was really pissed

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off at Van Morrison. Because she said, my husband

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died of a heart attack because he kept arguing

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with you and you wouldn't give in and stressed

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him out and that's why he's dead, so I hate you,

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Van Morrison. And she basically ran the record

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label into the ground trying to get back at Van

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Morrison for killing her husband. Wow. Okay,

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interesting. That's all the part that my printer

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cut off that I had to remember. Oh, damn it.

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I hate it when that happens. You remember EMI?

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Yeah, oh yeah. The Sex Pistols originally signed

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with EMI, and they screwed them over, so they

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wrote a song called EMI, just trashing them.

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And at the end of the song, Johnny Rotten screams

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their name, EMI, and then he turns around and

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farts in the microphone. He really hated them.

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Oh, I love it. One of the best names ever. Or

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one of the best names ever. So EMI America. It

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was launched in 1978 by EMI, launched by EMI

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as a second label. So we had EMI and they had

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EMI American Records. Okay. Then they relied

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on Capitol Records for the pressing distribution

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and as an international liaison. In 1987, EMI

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America merged with Manhattan Records, resulting

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in the formation of EMI Manhattan. Imagine that.

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Okay. That underwent a rebranding two years later

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in 89, becoming known as EMI USA. Wow. In 1991,

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it joined the EMI Records Group North America,

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ERG, under the name EMI Records USA. Okay. The

00:19:01.029 --> 00:19:04.210
label was ultimately closed down in 1997, and

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its artists were split between Virgin Records

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America, which was acquired by Thorne EMI in

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92, and Capitol Records. See how incestuous this

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all is? Yeah. God. Their past artists included

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Marty Ballant, formerly of Jefferson Starship,

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Blessed Union of Souls, David Bowie, Kate Bush,

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Stray Cats. Lenny Burns. Kim Carnes. Sheena Easton.

00:19:32.529 --> 00:19:37.269
Joe B. Nesposito. Robin Gibb. Go West. That was

00:19:37.269 --> 00:19:40.410
one of the Bee Gees, right? Yeah. Yeah, it was

00:19:40.410 --> 00:19:42.450
one of the three. One of the three, okay. Yeah,

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I had a solo effort. Okay. Corey Hart, but only

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outside of Canada. Oh, yeah, okay. Murray Head.

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Kajagoogoo. Remember them? Yes. Too Shy. Hush,

00:19:53.589 --> 00:19:59.009
hush. Yeah, Too Shy. Yeah. Limol. Jake Isles,

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the Michael Stanley Band, Naked Eye, Queensryche,

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Arbra Mandrell, Pet Shop Boys, Red Hot Chili

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Peppers, sometimes known as the Green Cold Banana

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Peppers. Yes, yes. I like it when they do that.

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They all come out in chicken costumes. It's fantastic.

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Cliff Richard. He had some really good hits.

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Rockset, Steve Harvey and Cockney Rebel, Talk

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Talk. George Thorogood and the Destroyers, John

00:20:29.279 --> 00:20:31.579
Waite, former lead singer of the Babies, and

00:20:31.579 --> 00:20:34.700
Kim Wilde. Yeah, we're missing John Waite. Yeah.

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Amazing how many variations that album went through.

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Okay, Enigma Records. Remember Enigma? Yeah,

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I do. Yeah, very much. They had some good acts.

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They launched as a division of Green World Distribution,

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an independent music importer and distributor,

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in 1981. The label's first release was... Motley

00:20:56.220 --> 00:20:59.299
Crue's Too Fast for Love. The album was initially

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released under the band's own Leather Records,

00:21:02.200 --> 00:21:05.480
spelled L -E -A -T -H -U -R. And then they went

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to Elektra after that. Let's see, it was under

00:21:12.160 --> 00:21:14.900
the band's record label imprint, but it was manufactured,

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marketed, and distributed by what would become

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the Enigma Records team. After the band moved

00:21:19.960 --> 00:21:23.279
on to Elektra... the Enigma Records name was

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adopted, and all subsequent artists were released

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under this new name. Yeah, and I think that was

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part of their deal of, the whole deal was, is

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Elektra could offer them like three records.

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Yeah. And so, I forgot what that was, but Elektra

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came in and said, you know, we're not going to

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give you a one album deal, we're going to give

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you three albums, and they're like, you know,

00:21:45.420 --> 00:21:46.980
we've got to do that. So they were signed all

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the way to Girls, and then they went to another.

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Yeah. Yeah, so anyhow. The label's major success

00:21:54.230 --> 00:21:58.150
was with the pop band Berlin. They did Take My

00:21:58.150 --> 00:22:00.710
Breath Away for Top Gun. Yeah, the lead bass

00:22:00.710 --> 00:22:04.890
line. Yeah, yeah. Enigma was formally acquired

00:22:04.890 --> 00:22:09.309
by Capital EMI, there's EMI again, in 1989. Some

00:22:09.309 --> 00:22:11.609
of its catalog and operations were merged into

00:22:11.609 --> 00:22:14.490
the still -independent Restless Records in 1991.

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Wow. Their Canadian division was closed in 92

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and was reorganized into F .R .E. Records before

00:22:22.319 --> 00:22:25.700
shutting again in 99, after which its catalog

00:22:25.700 --> 00:22:30.079
was sold back to D .R .O .G. Records. Okay. And

00:22:30.079 --> 00:22:32.440
here's some of the artists that Enigma had. Seven

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Seconds, 2020, 45 Grave, Agent Orange. Bardot,

00:22:39.309 --> 00:22:42.130
Baron Cross, Battalion of Saints, haven't heard

00:22:42.130 --> 00:22:44.890
of any of these so far. Agent Orange, I've heard

00:22:44.890 --> 00:22:46.049
of Agent Orange. Yeah, Agent Orange I have, yeah.

00:22:46.410 --> 00:22:50.349
Berlin, David Cassidy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. From

00:22:50.349 --> 00:22:53.569
the Partridge family. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Castile.

00:22:53.609 --> 00:22:56.289
And he had a good career. He did, he really did.

00:22:56.509 --> 00:23:00.269
Him and his brother Sean did very well. Celtic

00:23:00.269 --> 00:23:02.210
Frost, I've heard of them. Yeah, yeah, they're

00:23:02.210 --> 00:23:07.759
a death metal. Channel 3, Close Lobsters. The

00:23:07.759 --> 00:23:09.539
Cramps, I've heard of them. They were a punk

00:23:09.539 --> 00:23:13.279
band. Dead Milkman, another punk band. Death

00:23:13.279 --> 00:23:19.839
Angel. Another death metal. The Descendants.

00:23:20.579 --> 00:23:25.599
Devo. The Dickies. Don Dixon. The Dream Syndicate.

00:23:25.720 --> 00:23:28.079
The Effigies. I've heard of the Dream Syndicate.

00:23:28.259 --> 00:23:33.599
Yeah. Rocky Erickson. Fear. The Fibonaccis. Okay.

00:23:33.859 --> 00:23:37.039
The Flaming Lips. Yes. Yeah, I heard them. I

00:23:37.039 --> 00:23:38.559
can't stand the Flaming Lights. I can't either.

00:23:38.660 --> 00:23:40.440
I hated them all the time. I mean, I'm happy

00:23:40.440 --> 00:23:42.779
that they're having success, but I've seen a

00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:45.460
couple of their stage shows on concert videos.

00:23:46.339 --> 00:23:50.220
Awful. Just awful. I didn't even like their songs.

00:23:50.299 --> 00:23:52.099
I thought they were so overrated because you've

00:23:52.099 --> 00:23:54.160
got these people that are fucking obsessed with

00:23:54.160 --> 00:23:57.819
them. It comes from nothing. I remember a performance

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I saw. They were doing covers of Pink Floyd's

00:24:03.180 --> 00:24:06.190
The Wall, like the whole album. and they're doing

00:24:06.190 --> 00:24:09.549
shitty covers of them and for backup singers

00:24:09.549 --> 00:24:13.710
they had a crowd of about seven or eight young

00:24:13.710 --> 00:24:17.029
women in cheerleader uniforms that were just

00:24:17.029 --> 00:24:20.210
kind of standing in a mob and just kind of you

00:24:20.210 --> 00:24:22.690
know pumping up and down making hip movements

00:24:22.690 --> 00:24:24.809
just kind of bouncing and swaying around and

00:24:24.809 --> 00:24:26.730
occasionally one of them would lean in to sing

00:24:26.730 --> 00:24:29.269
a little bit for them but for the most part they

00:24:29.269 --> 00:24:33.730
were just bumping and grinding female helvises

00:24:33.730 --> 00:24:35.849
on stage. And that's what they were there for.

00:24:36.029 --> 00:24:39.990
And I thought, how is this even, how are people

00:24:39.990 --> 00:24:41.970
even looking at this and thinking it's entertainment?

00:24:42.509 --> 00:24:45.069
They're basically saying, here are seven vaginas

00:24:45.069 --> 00:24:47.829
up here moving around for you to stare at. Really?

00:24:47.990 --> 00:24:51.289
Okay. They knew they sucked. That was it right

00:24:51.289 --> 00:24:54.349
there. Yeah, they knew. Game Theory, Get Smart,

00:24:54.690 --> 00:24:57.289
G .G. Allen, Girl School. I remember Girl School.

00:24:57.289 --> 00:24:59.630
Yeah, I remember them. They were actually unique.

00:24:59.849 --> 00:25:04.390
Yeah, they were unique. The Goo Goo Dolls. Great

00:25:04.390 --> 00:25:07.349
White. Yeah, the Goo Goo Dolls have that big,

00:25:07.369 --> 00:25:11.670
big hit name. Yeah. And Slide was another one.

00:25:11.750 --> 00:25:14.930
Slide was another huge one. Great White, Green

00:25:14.930 --> 00:25:18.430
on Red, Guardian. Peter Hamill. I think that's

00:25:18.430 --> 00:25:20.789
Mark Hamill's second cousin. Okay. Great White.

00:25:21.730 --> 00:25:24.309
This was the very first rendition of them because

00:25:24.309 --> 00:25:27.049
then later on there was Jack Russell's Great

00:25:27.049 --> 00:25:29.049
White and there was Great White. Yeah. And some

00:25:29.049 --> 00:25:31.750
judge said that they could do it like that. Yeah.

00:25:31.769 --> 00:25:34.089
Kind of like you had Queenswright and you had

00:25:34.089 --> 00:25:37.250
Jeff Tate's Queenswright. But then he had to

00:25:37.250 --> 00:25:39.490
drop it after a certain amount of years and now

00:25:39.490 --> 00:25:43.720
it's just Jeff Tate. Yeah. Alan Holdsworth. He

00:25:43.720 --> 00:25:45.799
was credited with inventing the technique that

00:25:45.799 --> 00:25:49.940
Eddie Van Halen perfected. Hurricane. Which one

00:25:49.940 --> 00:25:53.119
is that? The finger tapping. Oh, he's credited

00:25:53.119 --> 00:25:55.279
with that? A lot of people credit Alan Holdsworth

00:25:55.279 --> 00:25:59.519
with being at least Eddie's main influence. I

00:25:59.519 --> 00:26:02.079
think that it all came from Bluegrass. It did,

00:26:02.220 --> 00:26:07.400
yeah. But I think that Ace, really. was more

00:26:07.400 --> 00:26:09.140
of the line that we're talking about to Eddie

00:26:09.140 --> 00:26:12.119
Van Halen. I would think so, too. But at the

00:26:12.119 --> 00:26:15.640
time I read this, Kiss was still, by most critics,

00:26:15.660 --> 00:26:19.619
considered beneath notice. So they weren't going

00:26:19.619 --> 00:26:21.559
to give Ace Frehley credit for anything. You're

00:26:21.559 --> 00:26:23.200
right. You're right. They were taking it as a

00:26:23.200 --> 00:26:25.920
joke. Yeah. They snubbed him as songwriters,

00:26:26.039 --> 00:26:28.599
musicians, performers, businessmen. It was just

00:26:28.599 --> 00:26:30.940
like, Kiss is a big joke, and we're not even

00:26:30.940 --> 00:26:32.720
going to pay attention to him. You're right.

00:26:32.779 --> 00:26:35.119
That really hurt Ace Frehley as far as public.

00:26:35.119 --> 00:26:36.799
But Eddie Van Halen would have been listening

00:26:36.799 --> 00:26:38.359
and watching that. Yeah, absolutely. So he had

00:26:38.359 --> 00:26:40.940
Ace going, hey, let's take that pick away, and

00:26:40.940 --> 00:26:42.380
just started doing it with a finger. But then

00:26:42.380 --> 00:26:46.559
he... Hoosker Dew. I remember Hoosker Dew. Yeah,

00:26:46.559 --> 00:26:49.690
I do too. John and the Knight Riders. Steve Kilby.

00:26:50.170 --> 00:26:54.109
Laz Rocket. Lieback. The Leaving Trains. Lizzie

00:26:54.109 --> 00:26:58.210
Borden. Maycons. The Minutemen. Ronnie Montrose.

00:26:59.009 --> 00:27:03.630
Sammy Hagar was in Montrose. Mojo Nixon. That

00:27:03.630 --> 00:27:08.130
guy was weird. Molly Crew. Motorhead. Naked Raid

00:27:08.130 --> 00:27:12.529
Gun. Neekrose. Bill Nelson. Obsession. Peer Ubu.

00:27:12.890 --> 00:27:16.319
Plan 9. named after one of the worst movies ever

00:27:16.319 --> 00:27:20.099
made, Plan 9 from Outer Space. Plastic Land,

00:27:20.359 --> 00:27:23.839
Poison, was on their record. Chris Poland, Rain

00:27:23.839 --> 00:27:27.920
Parade, Rat, Rat Flag, Red Hot Chili Peppers,

00:27:28.019 --> 00:27:31.079
Red Cross, The Residents, Sacred Reich, Green

00:27:31.079 --> 00:27:34.059
Sage, Skid Roper, who eventually hooked up with

00:27:34.059 --> 00:27:41.460
Mojo Nixon. They were both kind of ska, not really

00:27:41.460 --> 00:27:45.289
reggae, but... Just kind of the music you would

00:27:45.289 --> 00:27:49.029
hear on the street corner. Mojo Nixon had a song

00:27:49.029 --> 00:27:51.170
called Debbie Gibson is Pregnant with My Two

00:27:51.170 --> 00:27:55.289
-Headed Love Child. And he had another song called

00:27:55.289 --> 00:27:58.329
Chicken Drop. Have you ever seen people play

00:27:58.329 --> 00:28:01.509
chicken bingo? Yeah. It's where they paint out

00:28:01.509 --> 00:28:04.990
a bingo board and then they put a chicken in

00:28:04.990 --> 00:28:06.750
the middle of it and whichever number the chicken

00:28:06.750 --> 00:28:08.849
shits on is the winning number. Yeah, it's also

00:28:08.849 --> 00:28:11.519
known as chicken shit bingo. Yeah. But he called

00:28:11.519 --> 00:28:13.559
it Chicken Drop for the purposes of the song.

00:28:15.319 --> 00:28:22.039
Saxon. I remember Saxon. Yeah, yeah. Screamin'

00:28:22.039 --> 00:28:24.539
Sirens. Don't know them. Shooting Star. Local

00:28:24.539 --> 00:28:28.640
band. Kansas City local band. Slayer. The Smithereens.

00:28:28.900 --> 00:28:30.980
I remember the Smithereens. Were they local as

00:28:30.980 --> 00:28:33.980
well? Smithereens? I think they might have been,

00:28:34.000 --> 00:28:37.019
actually. They have the song Girl Like You. Yeah.

00:28:37.240 --> 00:28:43.140
Just you and the girl. Slayer is the most metal

00:28:43.140 --> 00:28:46.420
band ever. Yeah. Because their guitarist actually

00:28:46.420 --> 00:28:49.859
died from a brown recluse bite. Yeah, trashed

00:28:49.859 --> 00:28:52.259
his liver. Yeah, yeah, yep. So that's metal.

00:28:52.339 --> 00:28:54.500
That's as metal as you can get. That's a metal

00:28:54.500 --> 00:28:57.380
way to die. Yes. But on the same label. Sonic

00:28:57.380 --> 00:29:01.920
Youth. Sonic Youth. With Slayer. Imagine the

00:29:01.920 --> 00:29:04.259
party. Shooting star Slayer and Sonic Youth.

00:29:04.700 --> 00:29:08.940
You see them at like a company party. Yeah. Who

00:29:08.940 --> 00:29:11.740
are you? Who are you? We're the Sonic Youth.

00:29:13.299 --> 00:29:17.220
Hey, who beat up Sonic Youth? Those guys over

00:29:17.220 --> 00:29:23.940
there in leather? Yep. Al Stewart. Striper. Oh,

00:29:23.960 --> 00:29:26.779
wow. A Christian rock band. Imagine Striper and

00:29:26.779 --> 00:29:29.180
Slayer getting together. No, that was talked

00:29:29.180 --> 00:29:31.700
about. And also Wasp. It's going to be called

00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:34.299
the Heaven and Hell Tour. Oh, that would be awesome.

00:29:34.299 --> 00:29:36.720
They tried to, but they couldn't get it off the

00:29:36.720 --> 00:29:40.410
ground for whatever reason. Let's see, Surf Punks,

00:29:40.509 --> 00:29:43.150
Tex and the Horseheads, They Might Be Giants.

00:29:43.230 --> 00:29:45.329
I've heard of They Might Be Giants. I'm not a

00:29:45.329 --> 00:29:47.289
big fan, but okay. There are a few songs they

00:29:47.289 --> 00:29:50.029
have I like really well. I like Particle Man

00:29:50.029 --> 00:29:54.130
and Minimum Wage. Yeah, Minimum Wage is great,

00:29:54.130 --> 00:29:57.130
yes. If nothing else, go Google Minimum Wage

00:29:57.130 --> 00:29:59.269
by They Might Be Giants. It'll take a minute

00:29:59.269 --> 00:30:01.170
and a half out of your life. It's funny as hell.

00:30:01.690 --> 00:30:04.349
It's pretty much talking what it says. It's talking

00:30:04.349 --> 00:30:05.930
about someone making minimum wage and getting

00:30:05.930 --> 00:30:08.839
shit on all the time. And the entire lyrics for

00:30:08.839 --> 00:30:15.259
the song are minimum wage. Thor, Tom Peterson,

00:30:15.460 --> 00:30:18.299
and another language, the bass player from Cheap

00:30:18.299 --> 00:30:20.599
Trick. Cheap Trick, yeah. Who has the best bass

00:30:20.599 --> 00:30:23.660
around. Yeah. Yeah, what is that, nine, 12 string?

00:30:23.660 --> 00:30:25.619
It's a 12 string. 12 string. I think it was Hamer

00:30:25.619 --> 00:30:27.920
was the brand. Yeah, yeah. You flip it over for

00:30:27.920 --> 00:30:29.640
octave and you flip it over to the other side

00:30:29.640 --> 00:30:32.299
for bass. Genius. Yeah. If you want to know what

00:30:32.299 --> 00:30:35.680
it sounds like, the intro to Jeremy. Yeah, intro

00:30:35.680 --> 00:30:38.720
and outro. And outro, yeah. That thing that sounds

00:30:38.720 --> 00:30:41.240
like a bass but has octaves, that's it right

00:30:41.240 --> 00:30:43.240
there. Yeah, that's the actual bass. They even

00:30:43.240 --> 00:30:45.240
built another one. He borrowed it from Tom Peterson.

00:30:45.240 --> 00:30:48.640
Yeah, he did. TSOL, I have no idea what that

00:30:48.640 --> 00:30:51.960
means. Trans, no, no, no, no. Not the Trans -Siberian

00:30:51.960 --> 00:30:53.420
Orchestra. No, no, no, that's something else.

00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:56.940
That's TSOL. Speaking of the Trans -Siberian

00:30:56.940 --> 00:30:59.200
Orchestra, you can't convince me that every member

00:30:59.200 --> 00:31:01.660
of that orchestra is trans. i know i tried to

00:31:01.660 --> 00:31:03.779
look at it too and they kind of look guyly to

00:31:03.779 --> 00:31:05.839
me yeah they don't really look like uh trans

00:31:05.839 --> 00:31:08.500
so yeah the trans siberian orchestra they aren't

00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:11.519
trans no no and also there's no snow up there

00:31:11.519 --> 00:31:14.319
or ice on their stage so i think the whole thing's

00:31:14.319 --> 00:31:19.400
just a lie yeah yeah um the you crew the untouchables

00:31:19.400 --> 00:31:23.480
the vandals i remember the vandals uh benny ben

00:31:23.480 --> 00:31:27.740
vaughn The Vinnie Vincent invasion. You remember

00:31:27.740 --> 00:31:31.000
Vinnie Vincent? Yeah. Man, that guy. How many

00:31:31.000 --> 00:31:34.559
notes could he get in in a fucking song? Like

00:31:34.559 --> 00:31:39.000
extreme experimental jazz where they try to play

00:31:39.000 --> 00:31:42.240
a thousand notes in every single key in the next

00:31:42.240 --> 00:31:44.500
two seconds. The bad thing is your eye could

00:31:44.500 --> 00:31:46.900
play what he was doing. Yeah. Because all it

00:31:46.900 --> 00:31:50.720
was was just hitting notes. There was no musicality

00:31:50.720 --> 00:31:56.549
in it at all. Voivod, another punk -ish wall

00:31:56.549 --> 00:32:00.130
of voodoo. They had the song Mexican Radio. Oh,

00:32:00.130 --> 00:32:02.190
yeah, yeah, that's it. The lead singer, Stan

00:32:02.190 --> 00:32:05.470
Ridgeway, went on to do solo stuff that was pretty

00:32:05.470 --> 00:32:07.390
good. I mean, it was a little out there, but

00:32:07.390 --> 00:32:11.009
it was still really, really good. Oh, okay. Wasted

00:32:11.009 --> 00:32:13.930
Youth, Wednesday Week, Wild Dog, Ike Willis,

00:32:13.990 --> 00:32:17.440
Wire, XYZ. Somebody actually eventually forgot

00:32:17.440 --> 00:32:20.579
to use the name XYZ. Oh, yeah, yeah. Snow White.

00:32:21.240 --> 00:32:28.099
Snow White. Snow White. So, Mammoth Records.

00:32:29.680 --> 00:32:32.599
Not Wolfgang. No, no. His independent record

00:32:32.599 --> 00:32:35.920
label founded in 89 by Jay Fares in the Carrboro

00:32:35.920 --> 00:32:40.009
area of Chapel Hill, North Carolina. Their roster

00:32:40.009 --> 00:32:42.650
included Antenna, Backsliders, Bandit Queen,

00:32:42.890 --> 00:32:46.569
The Bats, Blake Babies, Chainsaw Kittens. I love

00:32:46.569 --> 00:32:52.109
that name. Clarissa Dash Riprock. That's funny.

00:32:52.329 --> 00:32:54.549
Isn't it? Yeah, because one of my code names

00:32:54.549 --> 00:32:57.130
on the podcast is Dash Riprock. And you know

00:32:57.130 --> 00:33:00.390
where that came from? The Flintstones. They probably

00:33:00.390 --> 00:33:02.170
got their band name from that, too. I remember

00:33:02.170 --> 00:33:05.170
that Dash Riprock was their version of Cary Grant.

00:33:05.369 --> 00:33:08.960
Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Or no, not Cary Grant. Would

00:33:08.960 --> 00:33:13.519
have been... Maybe it was Cary Grant. Cary Grant,

00:33:13.579 --> 00:33:15.039
Robert Mitchum, one of those guys. Yeah, one

00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:18.259
of those guys, yeah. A slick, good -looking Hollywood

00:33:18.259 --> 00:33:23.240
guy. Yeah. Dash Riprock. Fu Manchu, Fundamental.

00:33:23.660 --> 00:33:27.099
Jason and the Scorchers, I remember them. Kill

00:33:27.099 --> 00:33:29.339
Creek, Machines of Loving Grace, I've heard of

00:33:29.339 --> 00:33:33.619
them. Seven Mary Three. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:34.200 --> 00:33:36.819
Cumbersome. Yeah, I remember doing that song

00:33:36.819 --> 00:33:39.160
in a cover band. That would be a good song to

00:33:39.160 --> 00:33:41.000
cover because everybody knows it and it's not

00:33:41.000 --> 00:33:45.400
really that complex of a song. No, it's just

00:33:45.400 --> 00:33:49.799
very simple. The band got its name from the intro

00:33:49.799 --> 00:33:53.039
to that old cop show, Adam 12. You could hear

00:33:53.039 --> 00:33:55.180
somebody on the radio in the background saying,

00:33:55.240 --> 00:33:57.940
7 Mary 3, respond to us. That's right. It was

00:33:57.940 --> 00:34:01.970
a call sign of another squad. Oh, okay. The Squirrel

00:34:01.970 --> 00:34:04.430
Nut Zippers. Oh, God, yeah, yeah. They were like

00:34:04.430 --> 00:34:09.190
jazz kind of. Yeah, they were just like a bunch

00:34:09.190 --> 00:34:11.090
of different musicians doing weird stuff with

00:34:11.090 --> 00:34:12.429
unconventional instruments. There was no direction

00:34:12.429 --> 00:34:17.150
at all. It was more music. It was more instrumental

00:34:17.150 --> 00:34:19.909
kind of than it really was anything else. But

00:34:19.909 --> 00:34:22.989
it was interesting, and it went well. Yeah, interpersonal

00:34:22.989 --> 00:34:25.809
relationships kind of busted up that band. Yeah,

00:34:25.829 --> 00:34:29.579
it did, big time. The Melvins were also on that

00:34:29.579 --> 00:34:31.800
album. Sidewinder. Hey, they suck. Oh, yeah.

00:34:31.920 --> 00:34:33.099
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're supposed to say

00:34:33.099 --> 00:34:35.000
that. Suck in a good way. Yes, you're supposed

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:38.820
to say that. Vanilla Trainwreck. The success

00:34:38.820 --> 00:34:40.800
of the Squirrel Nut Zippers albums, along with

00:34:40.800 --> 00:34:42.679
the development of other mammoth bands like Pure

00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.980
with Generation Six Pack, Fu Manchu, and the

00:34:44.980 --> 00:34:47.460
Backsliders, focused the industry's attention

00:34:47.460 --> 00:34:50.440
on the newly independent mammoth label. The label

00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.719
sold to the Walt Disney Company in 1997. Yep,

00:34:53.719 --> 00:34:56.420
that's tragic. Eight years. And they sold out.

00:34:57.360 --> 00:34:59.739
It's too bad they're on a great direction. Yeah,

00:34:59.820 --> 00:35:02.800
and you know, it's sad, but when a label gets

00:35:02.800 --> 00:35:04.820
sold like that, a lot of artists get cut loose.

00:35:04.980 --> 00:35:07.199
I got a question. I got the answer. You go first.

00:35:07.420 --> 00:35:11.579
Okay, how come Hibachi House is closed? Uh -oh.

00:35:14.079 --> 00:35:17.440
I don't like the hesitation. Are we off the air?

00:35:17.739 --> 00:35:19.579
Oh, here we go. We can be. I didn't even think

00:35:19.579 --> 00:35:21.340
about it because we get to talk and I forget

00:35:21.340 --> 00:35:24.760
we're even. Off the record. Thank you. I'm glad

00:35:24.760 --> 00:35:26.940
you said that. Yeah, so we heard the story off

00:35:26.940 --> 00:35:29.199
record, and I'm not going to repeat it, but it's

00:35:29.199 --> 00:35:31.840
safe to say there's nothing bizarre or unusual

00:35:31.840 --> 00:35:35.440
or illegal or shady going on. It's just normal

00:35:35.440 --> 00:35:37.280
everyday stuff. No, we were actually organized.

00:35:37.280 --> 00:35:39.340
It's unconfirmed, so we don't want to spread

00:35:39.340 --> 00:35:41.480
it. We were all organized in a crap game after

00:35:41.480 --> 00:35:47.920
hours. Yes. MCA Records. American label owned

00:35:47.920 --> 00:35:52.039
by MCA International established in 1972. They

00:35:52.039 --> 00:35:55.119
had released recordings on that name in the UK

00:35:55.119 --> 00:35:59.780
in the 60s. Now they started acquiring other

00:35:59.780 --> 00:36:05.519
labels. They bought up ABC, Motown, and Geffen.

00:36:05.920 --> 00:36:11.400
Okay. MCA became Universal Studios in 96, and

00:36:11.400 --> 00:36:13.820
the MCA record label was folded into Universal

00:36:13.820 --> 00:36:17.840
Music Group's Geffen Records in 2003. So they

00:36:17.840 --> 00:36:20.960
bought up Geffen, but kept it as a separate label.

00:36:21.320 --> 00:36:24.639
So if you ever see UMG, that's Universal Music

00:36:24.639 --> 00:36:28.980
Group. But Universal's MCA Nashville does continue

00:36:28.980 --> 00:36:33.059
to use the MCA name. Artists include Adam Ant.

00:36:34.559 --> 00:36:38.019
Alvin and the Chipmunks. Alvin and the Chipmunks.

00:36:38.500 --> 00:36:40.960
What a thing to be signed. I mean, is that the

00:36:40.960 --> 00:36:43.460
people that do it, I guess? Yeah, yeah. I guess

00:36:43.460 --> 00:36:45.340
it's the people who are actually recording the

00:36:45.340 --> 00:36:48.199
voices. And I'm sure right now people are saying,

00:36:48.280 --> 00:36:54.320
you mean it's not really the Chipmunks? Oh, Belbiv

00:36:54.320 --> 00:36:58.280
DeVoe. Oh, yeah. Remember that? Bobby Blue Bland.

00:36:58.980 --> 00:37:02.840
Mary J. Blige. Uh -huh. She's got a reality show

00:37:02.840 --> 00:37:05.280
out now. Does she? I've seen ads for it. For

00:37:05.280 --> 00:37:07.280
some reason, I thought she was dead. I guess

00:37:07.280 --> 00:37:12.400
not. It's not. Okay. Boston. Bobby Brown. Oh,

00:37:12.420 --> 00:37:15.719
yeah. Budgie. Now, Budgie is a really unknown

00:37:15.719 --> 00:37:17.940
band, but... I know who you're talking about.

00:37:17.980 --> 00:37:20.960
They are credited with influencing and inspiring

00:37:20.960 --> 00:37:22.679
so many of the bands you know. Yeah, they're

00:37:22.679 --> 00:37:26.119
a musician's band. Yeah. Yeah. So, check out

00:37:26.119 --> 00:37:29.199
some Budgie. Actually, it's good stuff. It is.

00:37:29.199 --> 00:37:31.280
If you listen to it, most people will like it.

00:37:32.280 --> 00:37:35.739
Let's see. Who else? Jimmy Buffett. Blink -182.

00:37:36.219 --> 00:37:39.699
Belinda Carlyle. Oh, yeah, yeah. Go -Go's. I'm

00:37:39.699 --> 00:37:42.059
her fan club. Yeah, we talked about that. Kim

00:37:42.059 --> 00:37:45.539
Carnes. Yeah, yeah. Betty Davis eyes. Yeah. And

00:37:45.539 --> 00:37:48.659
what that means, I don't understand. No, she

00:37:48.659 --> 00:37:51.619
didn't have... Betty Davis had thyroid eye disease

00:37:51.619 --> 00:37:54.639
where her eyes bugged out really far. Yeah. Also

00:37:54.639 --> 00:37:58.909
known as Ted. Yes. Let's see. They did Cher.

00:37:59.909 --> 00:38:05.769
Alice Cooper. Bill Cosby. The Cranberries. Neil

00:38:05.769 --> 00:38:08.789
Diamond. Dream Theater. The Fix. The two X's.

00:38:09.730 --> 00:38:13.369
Glenn Frey of the Eagles. Oh, wow. Jimi Hendrix.

00:38:13.929 --> 00:38:17.909
Iron Butterfly, Elton John, Kansas, Crocus, Leonard

00:38:17.909 --> 00:38:20.869
Skinner, Gary Moore, Alanis Morissette. My gosh.

00:38:21.269 --> 00:38:24.210
Yeah. Star after star after star. New Edition,

00:38:24.449 --> 00:38:27.030
Night Ranger, Joe Perry Project, Tom Petty and

00:38:27.030 --> 00:38:30.570
the Heartbreakers, Spinal Tap, Steely Dan, Sublime,

00:38:30.829 --> 00:38:35.150
Triumph, and The Hoof. All of them are on MCA.

00:38:35.449 --> 00:38:40.210
I had no idea they had so many really good artists.

00:38:40.510 --> 00:38:43.989
Speaking of Steely Dan. Do you know who Steely

00:38:43.989 --> 00:38:47.170
Dan's original and founding drummer was? No.

00:38:47.349 --> 00:38:52.110
Chevy Chase. That Chevy Chase. Yeah, the miserable

00:38:52.110 --> 00:38:55.150
one? They all got together in college, Donald

00:38:55.150 --> 00:38:57.869
Fagan, Walter Becker, and Chevy Chase, and started

00:38:57.869 --> 00:39:01.750
this band, Steely Dan, named after a dildo in

00:39:01.750 --> 00:39:06.159
a book called The Naked Lunch. And a lot of people

00:39:06.159 --> 00:39:07.860
don't know that's what it's named after. They're

00:39:07.860 --> 00:39:10.119
just like, okay, whatever. But he stayed with

00:39:10.119 --> 00:39:11.940
them all the way up to the point where they get

00:39:11.940 --> 00:39:14.539
signed to a record deal, and then Chevy Chase

00:39:14.539 --> 00:39:17.139
quit. He said, you guys need to find a good drummer

00:39:17.139 --> 00:39:20.719
because you're going places, and I'm at my limit,

00:39:20.780 --> 00:39:24.340
so I quit. You guys go find a good drummer. And

00:39:24.340 --> 00:39:26.900
they never did. They just used guest drummers.

00:39:27.719 --> 00:39:31.500
So nobody has ever joined Steely Dan since Chevy

00:39:31.500 --> 00:39:34.199
Chase quit. Yep. Wow. Isn't that weird? That

00:39:34.199 --> 00:39:38.840
is. Yeah. Hey there, Slapmets. It's time for

00:39:38.840 --> 00:39:43.960
the Creeps Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin

00:39:43.960 --> 00:39:46.679
seeds. This is Johnny Rohypnol with your music

00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:49.820
news. The latest news from the coroner and the

00:39:49.820 --> 00:39:52.940
death of Ace Brealey. His founding member, lead

00:39:52.940 --> 00:39:56.599
guitarist, and successful solo artist was. Ace

00:39:56.599 --> 00:39:59.739
had a stroke and led to his fall that resulted

00:39:59.739 --> 00:40:02.460
in a brain bleed and his unfortunate passing.

00:40:03.099 --> 00:40:05.639
We already miss you, Ace. Condolences to his

00:40:05.639 --> 00:40:09.300
family and friends. This is Johnny Rohypnol.

00:40:09.480 --> 00:40:12.860
That was your music news. And remember, bar chords

00:40:12.860 --> 00:40:19.269
are bullshit. But, you know, I think he did better

00:40:19.269 --> 00:40:20.829
outside the band than he would have. I think

00:40:20.829 --> 00:40:23.909
he did, too. I mean, look, Steely Dan had a good

00:40:23.909 --> 00:40:26.909
run and everything. And I went to see them, I

00:40:26.909 --> 00:40:28.630
don't know, maybe eight years ago at Starlight,

00:40:28.710 --> 00:40:30.809
and it was pretty full. So, I mean, they did

00:40:30.809 --> 00:40:34.699
okay, but, yeah. But I'm sure. Chevy Chase is

00:40:34.699 --> 00:40:38.400
making more off of residuals now than Fagan and

00:40:38.400 --> 00:40:41.019
Becker would be making now. Oh, no, no, I agree

00:40:41.019 --> 00:40:43.000
with that. I'm just saying that Steely Dan actually

00:40:43.000 --> 00:40:44.840
did really good as well. Yeah, yeah, there was

00:40:44.840 --> 00:40:47.179
no slouch. But it's so funny to think of Chevy

00:40:47.179 --> 00:40:49.139
Chase back there playing the drums for Steely

00:40:49.139 --> 00:40:52.559
Dan. Wow. But he did for years. That is interesting.

00:40:52.659 --> 00:40:55.570
Yeah. Was he miserable back then, too? No, I

00:40:55.570 --> 00:40:56.769
think he's pretty happy. He's doing a lot of

00:40:56.769 --> 00:40:59.809
drugs. Oh, okay. Okay, yeah. Yeah, have you seen

00:40:59.809 --> 00:41:01.690
some of that stuff that people are saying about

00:41:01.690 --> 00:41:05.389
him? Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Crazy. And to his credit,

00:41:05.590 --> 00:41:09.489
Chevy Chase, after his heart failure and his

00:41:09.489 --> 00:41:12.429
heart stopped, he lost a huge chunk of his memory.

00:41:12.710 --> 00:41:15.469
Yeah. So people can claim anything, and he can't

00:41:15.469 --> 00:41:17.010
dispute it because he doesn't remember. You know,

00:41:17.010 --> 00:41:18.929
that's actually a good point. Yeah. We don't

00:41:18.929 --> 00:41:21.449
actually know, honestly, yet. Okay. Yeah. So

00:41:21.449 --> 00:41:23.289
I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt

00:41:23.289 --> 00:41:26.210
on a lot of things. You know what? Yeah, you're

00:41:26.210 --> 00:41:27.929
right. I don't know. I'm just saying this is

00:41:27.929 --> 00:41:30.849
what people said. And here's what I was getting

00:41:30.849 --> 00:41:32.690
at. I find it kind of hard to believe that a

00:41:32.690 --> 00:41:35.989
drummer and a guy that was pretty renowned is

00:41:35.989 --> 00:41:38.090
that miserable. But I guess, you know, I don't

00:41:38.090 --> 00:41:42.769
know. His mother and his stepdad used to beat

00:41:42.769 --> 00:41:44.489
him, so that could make you miserable. That could

00:41:44.489 --> 00:41:49.190
tarnish your outlook on life. MGM Records. was

00:41:49.190 --> 00:41:51.690
founded by the Metro -Goldwyn -Mayer Film Studio

00:41:51.690 --> 00:41:54.789
in 1946 for the purpose of relieving soundtrack

00:41:54.789 --> 00:41:59.190
recordings, later LPs. And that's the same MGM

00:41:59.190 --> 00:42:02.769
that you see, Bet MGM? Yeah. All Metro -Goldwyn

00:42:02.769 --> 00:42:07.769
-Mayer. So they had music, film, TV, now a gambling

00:42:07.769 --> 00:42:10.769
house, a casino, a hotel, all of that stuff.

00:42:10.849 --> 00:42:15.139
I want to say it's not MTM with the... With the

00:42:15.139 --> 00:42:17.159
alley cat on the front of it? That's Mary Tyler

00:42:17.159 --> 00:42:20.079
Moore. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was at the end. Yeah,

00:42:20.320 --> 00:42:25.179
it was Metro -Goldwyn -Mayer. They were the lion

00:42:25.179 --> 00:42:27.800
that came on in front of all these Golden Age

00:42:27.800 --> 00:42:32.519
movies. Yes. They transitioned to more of a pop

00:42:32.519 --> 00:42:37.059
music label. It continued into the 70s. In 1972,

00:42:37.400 --> 00:42:40.739
they were sold to Polygram. As part of the deal,

00:42:40.880 --> 00:42:44.800
Polygram received perpetual rights. to the MGM

00:42:44.800 --> 00:42:47.719
Records name and a 10 -year license to use the

00:42:47.719 --> 00:42:52.300
MGM trademark and logo. In 1976, MGM Records,

00:42:52.480 --> 00:42:55.219
including its artists, was absorbed into Polygram's

00:42:55.219 --> 00:42:58.639
Polydor Records. However, Polygram continued

00:42:58.639 --> 00:43:01.380
releasing MGM soundtrack albums and reissues

00:43:01.380 --> 00:43:04.739
using the old imprint until 1982. Artists include

00:43:04.739 --> 00:43:08.340
the Five Man Electrical Band. They did the song

00:43:08.340 --> 00:43:11.920
Signs that was redone by... Tesla. Tesla, yeah.

00:43:13.220 --> 00:43:17.940
Grateful Dead, Geordie, which was Brian Johnson's

00:43:17.940 --> 00:43:20.940
first band. Yeah, that's right. Yep. The Animals,

00:43:21.239 --> 00:43:25.960
C .W. McCall. Yes. He eventually became Mannheim

00:43:25.960 --> 00:43:28.579
Steamroller. Yeah. Which is weird to think the

00:43:28.579 --> 00:43:31.400
guy doing the CB song. Yeah, the convoy song.

00:43:31.480 --> 00:43:34.199
He's the same guy who transitioned into Mannheim

00:43:34.199 --> 00:43:39.800
Steamroller. Isn't that weird? Lou Rawls, Roy

00:43:39.800 --> 00:43:44.500
Orbison, Love and Spoonful. The Mothers of Invention,

00:43:44.599 --> 00:43:48.179
which later became Frank Zappa and the Mothers

00:43:48.179 --> 00:43:51.599
of Invention. The Osmonds. Hank Williams Sr.

00:43:51.980 --> 00:43:55.820
and Jr. Neil Sadaka, The Righteous Brothers,

00:43:56.019 --> 00:43:59.280
and The Velvet Underground. Wow. That's a lot

00:43:59.280 --> 00:44:05.079
of good artists. I remember United. United Artists,

00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:10.900
UA. Formed in 1957, also to issue movie soundtracks,

00:44:10.900 --> 00:44:14.099
because it was a film studio first. Expanded

00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:16.480
into other genres, easy listening, jazz, pop,

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:21.079
R &B. In 69, United Artists merged with co -owned

00:44:21.079 --> 00:44:23.639
Liberty Records and its subsidiary, Imperial

00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:28.039
Records. Then in 71, Liberty UA dropped the Liberty

00:44:28.039 --> 00:44:31.340
name in favor of United Artists. And that's how

00:44:31.340 --> 00:44:34.900
I remember it, just United Artists. In 1978,

00:44:35.179 --> 00:44:37.780
U .A. executives Marty Mogul and Jerry Rubenstein

00:44:37.780 --> 00:44:40.559
bought the record company from Transamerica with

00:44:40.559 --> 00:44:45.000
a loan from EMI. How incestuous again. Yes. And

00:44:45.000 --> 00:44:47.059
then they took over distribution of the label.

00:44:47.179 --> 00:44:50.619
So the two executives borrowed money from a different

00:44:50.619 --> 00:44:53.039
record label to buy the label they worked for.

00:44:53.840 --> 00:44:56.800
If I'm getting that right. Wow, okay, yeah, alright.

00:44:57.260 --> 00:44:59.159
And then the official name of the company changed

00:44:59.159 --> 00:45:02.530
to Liberty United. but the United Artists Records

00:45:02.530 --> 00:45:05.869
name was retained under license. The deal led

00:45:05.869 --> 00:45:09.329
to an immediate setback, as the change of ownership

00:45:09.329 --> 00:45:12.170
allowed Jet Records, which ELO was a big member

00:45:12.170 --> 00:45:15.610
of, to end its relationship with UA and switch

00:45:15.610 --> 00:45:20.409
its distribution to CBS, with the Jet back catalog

00:45:20.409 --> 00:45:23.510
also transferring to CBS distribution as well.

00:45:23.710 --> 00:45:27.690
So just that merger name change meant Jet Records

00:45:27.690 --> 00:45:31.039
would no longer earn them a dime. and instead

00:45:31.039 --> 00:45:35.480
CBS would get a little bit. Wow. Okay. And then

00:45:35.480 --> 00:45:39.659
in response, UA dumped many ELO albums into the

00:45:39.659 --> 00:45:41.699
cutout market, and that's where they snip the

00:45:41.699 --> 00:45:45.260
corner off the edge of the album cover, and that

00:45:45.260 --> 00:45:48.400
ruins its collector value, and it signifies that

00:45:48.400 --> 00:45:50.820
this was an album sent back from the distributor

00:45:50.820 --> 00:45:53.420
because it couldn't be sold. Oh, yeah, I remember

00:45:53.420 --> 00:45:56.619
when they used to do that. Yeah. But UA just

00:45:56.619 --> 00:45:59.019
started dumping them on the cutout market. They

00:45:59.019 --> 00:46:01.099
were clipping the edges off. I remember those,

00:46:01.159 --> 00:46:03.119
yeah. You could get them in the bin. And they're

00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.119
usually like two or three bucks. Yeah. Which

00:46:06.119 --> 00:46:10.619
CBS was unable to prevent. However, CBS reissues

00:46:10.619 --> 00:46:13.000
of early ELO albums. That is funny. They could

00:46:13.000 --> 00:46:15.739
prevent that. Yep. And then threw out of the

00:46:15.739 --> 00:46:18.760
blue in 77, contained copyright notices for United

00:46:18.760 --> 00:46:21.219
Artists Music and Records Group. Unable to generate

00:46:21.219 --> 00:46:23.960
enough income to cover the loan. Liberty United

00:46:23.960 --> 00:46:27.199
Records was sold to EMI, who had given the loan

00:46:27.199 --> 00:46:31.219
in 1979 for $3 million. Wow. Would have been

00:46:31.219 --> 00:46:33.679
a whole lot more nowadays. Oh, gosh. And then

00:46:33.679 --> 00:46:38.500
they assumed the liabilities of $32 million that

00:46:38.500 --> 00:46:42.619
was owed. Artists included The Animals, Paul

00:46:42.619 --> 00:46:46.840
Anka, The Beatles, Buzzcocks, Canned Heat, Spencer

00:46:46.840 --> 00:46:51.159
Davis Group, ELO, Crystal Gale, Bill Haley and

00:46:51.159 --> 00:46:54.940
His Comets, not The Comets. Hawkwind, Jan and

00:46:54.940 --> 00:46:58.260
Dean, Gordon Lightfoot, Don McLean, Manfred Mann,

00:46:58.460 --> 00:47:01.679
Jerry Rafferty, Kenny Rogers, Donna Summer, Ike

00:47:01.679 --> 00:47:04.699
and Tina Turner, and Whitesnake. Wow, that's

00:47:04.699 --> 00:47:06.699
a lot of big names. And Whitesnake. I love Whitesnake.

00:47:06.699 --> 00:47:11.760
And Whitesnake. But overall, the impression I

00:47:11.760 --> 00:47:14.940
get from this is you can start a record label

00:47:14.940 --> 00:47:18.980
and have an enormous stable of good artists putting

00:47:18.980 --> 00:47:21.599
out great music. They're selling a lot, and your

00:47:21.599 --> 00:47:25.579
label can still fail. within a few years. And

00:47:25.579 --> 00:47:28.340
that has everything to do with all the things

00:47:28.340 --> 00:47:30.320
that money is being spent on that don't have

00:47:30.320 --> 00:47:33.340
to do with the artists and their music. Parties

00:47:33.340 --> 00:47:36.980
and tours and bribes and paying radio station

00:47:36.980 --> 00:47:40.619
networks to play the song. People used to go,

00:47:40.699 --> 00:47:43.039
payola, that was just in the 50s. No, no, no.

00:47:43.099 --> 00:47:45.679
It never went away. It just got sneakier. Well,

00:47:45.800 --> 00:47:49.230
payola now exists a lot like this. Let's say

00:47:49.230 --> 00:47:51.469
we come in here, right, okay, and we are actually

00:47:51.469 --> 00:47:54.690
on a radio station, okay? And we're out in front

00:47:54.690 --> 00:47:57.050
of the city market and they give us a little

00:47:57.050 --> 00:47:59.110
bit of food, you know, maybe a couple of gift

00:47:59.110 --> 00:48:01.909
certificates, right? And we're like, oh my gosh,

00:48:01.909 --> 00:48:04.889
man, have you tried this meatloaf here? Oh, whoa,

00:48:05.030 --> 00:48:07.610
it's so good. It's actually the best way to market

00:48:07.610 --> 00:48:09.849
because you're over here. You know, drool it

00:48:09.849 --> 00:48:11.489
all over your meatloaf. And everyone else is,

00:48:11.570 --> 00:48:12.889
too. They're like, where's that at? City Market

00:48:12.889 --> 00:48:15.590
Coffee? Yeah. They have no idea, like, the main

00:48:15.590 --> 00:48:16.949
reason you're doing it is you're getting gift

00:48:16.949 --> 00:48:19.050
certificates and free food. Yeah. So that's how

00:48:19.050 --> 00:48:21.289
a lot of that goes on. Yeah, yeah. And, you know,

00:48:21.349 --> 00:48:23.289
it can be above board product placement. You

00:48:23.289 --> 00:48:25.590
get paid for it. But it can also be underhanded

00:48:25.590 --> 00:48:27.449
off the books, and nobody has to pay taxes on

00:48:27.449 --> 00:48:29.949
it. Oh, no. How many times is you're listening

00:48:29.949 --> 00:48:32.409
to a radio station go, oh, man, Blimpy just brought

00:48:32.409 --> 00:48:34.670
us by some subs. Oh, my God, they're so good.

00:48:34.849 --> 00:48:39.150
Yeah. They know what they're doing. Yeah. The

00:48:39.150 --> 00:48:43.170
song, It's a Raid, is off of Ordinary Man by

00:48:43.170 --> 00:48:45.789
Ozzy Osbourne. It came out in 2020, one of his

00:48:45.789 --> 00:48:51.510
latter works. There was a story behind it. Yeah.

00:48:51.769 --> 00:48:53.769
Okay. And I went into it a little bit, but here's

00:48:53.769 --> 00:48:56.590
the actual story right here of how he came up

00:48:56.590 --> 00:48:59.610
with this song, It's a Raid. It's off an actual

00:48:59.610 --> 00:49:02.530
event that happened. Yeah. So it's featuring

00:49:02.530 --> 00:49:05.269
Post Malone. on it, and that's where most people

00:49:05.269 --> 00:49:07.469
would know it nowadays. Post Malone featured

00:49:07.469 --> 00:49:10.710
Ozzy, but it's actually on an Ozzy album. It's

00:49:10.710 --> 00:49:14.889
based on a 1972 incident where a high on cocaine

00:49:14.889 --> 00:49:17.429
Ozzy accidentally triggered a silent security

00:49:17.429 --> 00:49:20.909
alarm at Beller Mansion while recording Black

00:49:20.909 --> 00:49:24.489
Sabbath's Volume 4. Thinking it was the air conditioning

00:49:24.489 --> 00:49:27.690
button, he called the police, leading to a panic

00:49:27.690 --> 00:49:33.469
drug fuel cleanup. I bet. Yes. Get the underage

00:49:33.469 --> 00:49:35.809
girls out. The cops are coming. Yes, all that

00:49:35.809 --> 00:49:38.710
shit. All that. In 1972, while renting a house

00:49:38.710 --> 00:49:41.070
for recording, a heavily intoxicated Ozzy felt

00:49:41.070 --> 00:49:44.809
hot and pressed a wall button, mistakenly summoned

00:49:44.809 --> 00:49:49.389
the police with a house full of drugs. Realizing

00:49:49.389 --> 00:49:52.090
the mistake, Ozzy yelled, it's a raid, grabbed

00:49:52.090 --> 00:49:54.449
a large bowl of cocaine, and hid in a bathroom

00:49:54.449 --> 00:49:57.429
where he proceeded to ingest the drugs to hide

00:49:57.429 --> 00:50:01.880
it from police. I'm going to snort this whole

00:50:01.880 --> 00:50:05.440
bowl of coke. Yeah, and he did. The police found

00:50:05.440 --> 00:50:08.300
no burglary, deemed it a false alarm, and left,

00:50:08.440 --> 00:50:11.619
despite Ozzy being gacked to the gills, according

00:50:11.619 --> 00:50:15.099
to this. Producer Andrew Watt thought the story

00:50:15.099 --> 00:50:17.860
was hilarious and encouraged turning the experience

00:50:17.860 --> 00:50:23.119
into a track which features Post Malone to help

00:50:23.119 --> 00:50:26.860
capture the chaotic, frantic energy of the moment.

00:50:27.440 --> 00:50:29.500
And it was, like I already said, released in

00:50:29.500 --> 00:50:32.559
2020 on Ordinary Man album. That's correct. I

00:50:32.559 --> 00:50:36.079
remember an episode of That 70s Show where they

00:50:36.079 --> 00:50:40.900
had a similar storyline. It's the four male leads

00:50:40.900 --> 00:50:44.579
in the show. It was Eric Foreman and, well, Topher

00:50:44.579 --> 00:50:49.659
Grace and Ashton Kutcher and Danny Masterson

00:50:49.659 --> 00:50:54.280
and then Wilmer Valderrama as Fez. Yeah. And...

00:50:55.050 --> 00:50:59.989
They'd gotten high in Eric's basement, and Kelso

00:50:59.989 --> 00:51:04.030
made a stupid high phone call to the White House

00:51:04.030 --> 00:51:06.610
asking about a death ray. I remember that. So

00:51:06.610 --> 00:51:08.349
then they were paranoid that the White House

00:51:08.349 --> 00:51:11.130
and the Secret Service was after them, so they

00:51:11.130 --> 00:51:13.289
decided they'd better smoke up all their weed

00:51:13.289 --> 00:51:17.869
before the feds got there. And a vacuum cleaner

00:51:17.869 --> 00:51:19.750
salesman came to the door, and they thought he

00:51:19.750 --> 00:51:22.420
was a spy, and they were just like... hammering

00:51:22.420 --> 00:51:24.000
down all this weed. That was one of my favorite

00:51:24.000 --> 00:51:26.619
episodes. And the funny thing is, is they could

00:51:26.619 --> 00:51:28.760
not show the weed. They could not show the joint.

00:51:28.900 --> 00:51:31.280
Nope. They could not show the bong. All they

00:51:31.280 --> 00:51:34.059
could show was a circling smoke up in the air.

00:51:34.119 --> 00:51:36.059
I don't think they ever showed any of them exhaling

00:51:36.059 --> 00:51:38.079
either. No, they didn't. It's just smoke in the

00:51:38.079 --> 00:51:40.039
air. They're all giggling in a circle. So it

00:51:40.039 --> 00:51:41.840
was like, okay, we know what they're doing. Yeah.

00:51:42.159 --> 00:51:45.619
I remember one point Hyde said, man, this is

00:51:45.619 --> 00:51:49.599
beginning to feel like work. It was such a...

00:51:49.789 --> 00:51:51.670
Classic line. Is that that guy that's in prison?

00:51:51.929 --> 00:51:54.989
Yes, he is. Okay. That's what I thought. It captured

00:51:54.989 --> 00:51:56.869
perfectly the idea of, you know, I'm already

00:51:56.869 --> 00:51:59.050
stoned. I don't want to get any more stoned,

00:51:59.050 --> 00:52:01.150
but I have to keep smoking this. It does seem

00:52:01.150 --> 00:52:04.630
like work. Yeah, yeah. Yes. The upshot of the,

00:52:04.769 --> 00:52:07.170
they mentioned he went wandering out in the neighborhood

00:52:07.170 --> 00:52:10.969
and liberated a whole van full of dogs from animal

00:52:10.969 --> 00:52:14.780
control and all sorts of mess. That was an ingenious

00:52:14.780 --> 00:52:16.820
episode. That was pretty good, yeah. Who knows?

00:52:16.820 --> 00:52:18.639
Maybe it was taken from It's a Rain. I don't

00:52:18.639 --> 00:52:20.699
know. I wouldn't be surprised. But then again,

00:52:20.800 --> 00:52:23.039
there's a lot of stories like that. A lot of

00:52:23.039 --> 00:52:25.900
stories where the bands are doing something shady

00:52:25.900 --> 00:52:29.500
and thought the cops were after them. It goes

00:52:29.500 --> 00:52:31.800
along with cocaine use, this paranoia. Yeah,

00:52:31.840 --> 00:52:35.059
yeah. Remember the linebacker Thomas Hollywood

00:52:35.059 --> 00:52:37.900
Henderson for the Cowboys? Sure do. Big tall

00:52:37.900 --> 00:52:40.940
guy. I think he wore number 72. Trey Henderson's

00:52:40.940 --> 00:52:45.000
brother. Yes. Yeah. He dated one of the Poynter

00:52:45.000 --> 00:52:48.739
sisters. Oh, wow. I didn't know that. But he

00:52:48.739 --> 00:52:53.880
wrote a book about his heavy cocaine use. And

00:52:53.880 --> 00:52:56.940
he says he remembers a time after a Cowboys game.

00:52:58.000 --> 00:53:00.920
And he just parked out in the parking lot. And

00:53:00.920 --> 00:53:03.039
everybody had gone home. And the parking lot

00:53:03.039 --> 00:53:06.039
was pretty much empty. But he was crouched on

00:53:06.039 --> 00:53:09.119
the floor of the backseat of his car, snorting

00:53:09.119 --> 00:53:11.320
cocaine and paranoid that the cops were going

00:53:11.320 --> 00:53:18.300
to bust him any moment. Oh, wow. Cocaine and

00:53:18.300 --> 00:53:23.280
paranoia definitely go together. Cool. Very cool.

00:53:23.380 --> 00:53:26.820
One of the interesting things I remember from

00:53:26.820 --> 00:53:31.699
his book was he didn't like to shave, and he

00:53:31.699 --> 00:53:34.699
wanted to grow facial hair. But Tom Landry was

00:53:34.699 --> 00:53:37.320
running the Cowboys, and he had a policy of no

00:53:37.320 --> 00:53:41.949
facial hair for anybody. So... Tom Henderson

00:53:41.949 --> 00:53:44.469
went to his doctor and got a doctor's excuse

00:53:44.469 --> 00:53:46.889
saying that if he shaved it would make his skin

00:53:46.889 --> 00:53:50.630
break out. And he brought that and the coach

00:53:50.630 --> 00:53:52.949
said, okay, no problem. And he had a stand -up

00:53:52.949 --> 00:53:54.969
meeting with everybody saying, you know, no facial

00:53:54.969 --> 00:53:58.230
hair on the Cowboys team unless you're like Tom

00:53:58.230 --> 00:54:00.170
Henderson here who brings in the doctor's note

00:54:00.170 --> 00:54:03.409
and he's excused. All of a sudden, a lot of the

00:54:03.409 --> 00:54:07.530
guys went out and got doctor's notes. Genius.

00:54:07.789 --> 00:54:13.590
It was. Genius. Fucking awesome. I remember that

00:54:13.590 --> 00:54:15.369
being a pretty fun book to read. I'll have to

00:54:15.369 --> 00:54:16.869
read that again. I don't know what it's called,

00:54:16.969 --> 00:54:19.050
but Thomas Henderson was the author, of course.

00:54:19.210 --> 00:54:23.409
That'd be something I'd like. So, okay. I have

00:54:23.409 --> 00:54:25.889
some bullet points. I want the bullet points.

00:54:26.050 --> 00:54:30.250
Okay, cool. Is David Lee Roth doing a Corey Feldman?

00:54:31.809 --> 00:54:34.510
Wow. Now think about it. Think about it for a

00:54:34.510 --> 00:54:38.250
minute. Wow. Because it's easy to say yes, but

00:54:38.250 --> 00:54:42.289
he's full of himself. Always has been. He does

00:54:42.289 --> 00:54:45.409
weird things. That's a tough question. Yeah,

00:54:45.530 --> 00:54:50.789
because his ego and his self -centeredness leads

00:54:50.789 --> 00:54:52.670
me to believe that he thinks he's on the top

00:54:52.670 --> 00:54:54.769
of his game and he really is the sexiest man

00:54:54.769 --> 00:54:58.190
alive still. On the other hand, you've got to

00:54:58.190 --> 00:55:00.070
believe now that he's so clueless he doesn't

00:55:00.070 --> 00:55:02.949
see what he's doing. Yeah. Oh, that's tough.

00:55:03.570 --> 00:55:06.730
I think it's half and half. Yeah, yeah. I think

00:55:06.730 --> 00:55:10.070
he does little things to get snippets on the

00:55:10.070 --> 00:55:12.829
internet. But I think he actually does think

00:55:12.829 --> 00:55:15.110
that people worship him. Well, some idiots do.

00:55:15.110 --> 00:55:17.769
Some do, yeah. But he thinks he's cooler than

00:55:17.769 --> 00:55:20.369
shit and still got the swag and the look and

00:55:20.369 --> 00:55:22.909
all that. I think he still thinks all that, yes.

00:55:23.349 --> 00:55:26.150
But I also think that he does certain things

00:55:26.150 --> 00:55:29.400
to get on the internet to promote himself. If

00:55:29.400 --> 00:55:31.840
I had to pick one or the other, I'd say that

00:55:31.840 --> 00:55:34.360
he's not doing a Corey Feldman because he is

00:55:34.360 --> 00:55:36.860
so full of himself. But it makes more sense to

00:55:36.860 --> 00:55:40.079
say that he's still doing things to play into

00:55:40.079 --> 00:55:43.400
the old wrinkly man who can't do it anymore and

00:55:43.400 --> 00:55:46.039
using that to his advantage. But he still plays

00:55:46.039 --> 00:55:48.480
his hype. Yeah, he's not stupid. He's just very

00:55:48.480 --> 00:55:53.280
egotistical. Yes. Wow. That's a good question.

00:55:53.340 --> 00:55:55.219
I like that one. I love that one. That's why

00:55:55.219 --> 00:55:57.400
I was like, and I wasn't even going to do the

00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.079
bullet points at that time. I'm like, uh -uh,

00:55:59.079 --> 00:56:03.460
I'm on a roll. Yeah. All right, this next one's

00:56:03.460 --> 00:56:05.760
a good one, too. Okay. Will all the antitrust

00:56:05.760 --> 00:56:10.480
lawsuits change the concert industry? Not enough,

00:56:10.599 --> 00:56:13.940
in my opinion, but go ahead. Yeah, yeah. I tend

00:56:13.940 --> 00:56:16.219
to think we'll get some, like, cosmetic changes

00:56:16.219 --> 00:56:20.179
that seem to work, but... The implementation

00:56:20.179 --> 00:56:22.699
of those changes will be put off long enough.

00:56:23.059 --> 00:56:31.039
Pardon me? Oh, it's almost 1 o 'clock. I think

00:56:31.039 --> 00:56:33.300
the concert industry is going to know in advance

00:56:33.300 --> 00:56:35.320
what changes are coming, and they'll be given

00:56:35.320 --> 00:56:37.539
enough time to shift their money -making into

00:56:37.539 --> 00:56:40.480
different areas so they can eventually comply

00:56:40.480 --> 00:56:42.639
with the law and still be raking in the money

00:56:42.639 --> 00:56:44.690
under the table the way they always are. Okay.

00:56:44.829 --> 00:56:47.489
Yeah, I think so, too. It'll change, but not

00:56:47.489 --> 00:56:49.550
in a meaningful way for us. Yeah, that's the

00:56:49.550 --> 00:56:51.769
way I looked at it, too, is it's going to change,

00:56:51.849 --> 00:56:54.369
but not like we want it to, not as much as we

00:56:54.369 --> 00:56:59.710
want it to. Yeah. All right. What band would

00:56:59.710 --> 00:57:02.090
you like to see make one final tour? Do you think

00:57:02.090 --> 00:57:04.429
they got enough in them just to do it and then

00:57:04.429 --> 00:57:11.469
go? Good question. You know, I think Elton could

00:57:11.469 --> 00:57:14.619
do one more tour. I think so, too. Because he

00:57:14.619 --> 00:57:18.320
still can sing reasonably well, and he can play.

00:57:19.039 --> 00:57:23.239
I think David Gilmour could do a tour as a solo

00:57:23.239 --> 00:57:25.199
artist. Oh, that's a good one. Not Pink Floyd,

00:57:25.360 --> 00:57:27.280
but as a solo artist, he definitely could do

00:57:27.280 --> 00:57:35.480
it. Let me think here. Judas Priest. Judas Priest,

00:57:35.659 --> 00:57:38.260
definitely. Definitely, because Rob Halford's

00:57:38.260 --> 00:57:41.769
got all of his skill. I know. He could probably

00:57:41.769 --> 00:57:43.789
go on for a while. I mean, he's not just going

00:57:43.789 --> 00:57:49.570
to lose it just like that. I think Anthrax. Yeah,

00:57:49.590 --> 00:57:52.110
definitely Anthrax. Yeah, Joey Belladonna can

00:57:52.110 --> 00:57:57.929
still sing pretty well. Let me think here. Who

00:57:57.929 --> 00:58:01.289
else? Megadeth, I think. Dave Mustaine's okay.

00:58:01.349 --> 00:58:03.590
He doesn't have that type of voice where he really

00:58:03.590 --> 00:58:06.309
needs that much. Yeah, he's saying he's got medical

00:58:06.309 --> 00:58:08.170
conditions that are affecting his ability to

00:58:08.170 --> 00:58:10.940
play and sing. But they also said that their

00:58:10.940 --> 00:58:12.820
final tour here is going to last three to five

00:58:12.820 --> 00:58:17.780
years. I know. Well, it's just like Deep Purple's

00:58:17.780 --> 00:58:21.159
long, slow goodbye. Yeah. Now I know why they

00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:24.059
would never call it a retirement tour. It's because

00:58:24.059 --> 00:58:27.079
it was never meant that way. Yeah. Leave the

00:58:27.079 --> 00:58:29.539
door open. It's been like seven years running.

00:58:30.579 --> 00:58:33.219
It is a long, slow goodbye. It's still going

00:58:33.219 --> 00:58:36.980
on. Yeah. They were interrupted by COVID, though,

00:58:37.019 --> 00:58:40.920
for a little bit. Yeah, I'm not sure I can think

00:58:40.920 --> 00:58:46.579
of anybody else. Kiss could do it. Paul Stanley,

00:58:46.920 --> 00:58:49.840
whenever he was on, he sounded fine. He had down

00:58:49.840 --> 00:58:52.019
moments, but I think Kiss, if they didn't already

00:58:52.019 --> 00:58:55.219
do the end of the road, I think they could do

00:58:55.219 --> 00:59:01.500
another one. Let me see. I think Dire Straits

00:59:01.500 --> 00:59:03.579
could probably do it. They probably sell a lot.

00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:06.659
Yes, yep. But I haven't heard a thing from Mark

00:59:06.659 --> 00:59:09.900
Knopfler in ages. No, I haven't either. I don't

00:59:09.900 --> 00:59:12.619
know if he's even really interested. I'm still

00:59:12.619 --> 00:59:18.079
astounded by the way that they can, on, oh shit,

00:59:18.239 --> 00:59:23.000
Money for Nothing, they say the F word, as in

00:59:23.000 --> 00:59:25.960
according to a gay male, on there several times,

00:59:26.099 --> 00:59:29.679
and nobody ever edits it. I know. It is odd.

00:59:29.800 --> 00:59:32.619
Oh, I've seen it bleeped out in reaction videos.

00:59:33.119 --> 00:59:35.219
Oh, okay, I could see that, but on the radio

00:59:35.219 --> 00:59:38.400
I hear it all the time. Look at Little F, he's

00:59:38.400 --> 00:59:40.139
a millionaire, look at the hair he did in Wake

00:59:40.139 --> 00:59:43.119
Up. Now, I've seen a number of British films

00:59:43.119 --> 00:59:47.599
from decades ago, but even some current where

00:59:47.599 --> 00:59:49.840
they use the F word to refer to a cigarette.

00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:56.480
Ozzy does in all of his books. Yeah. There's

00:59:56.480 --> 00:59:59.280
a really old song, Pack Up Your Troubles in Your

00:59:59.280 --> 01:00:02.840
Old Kit Bag and Smile, Smile, Smile. The second

01:00:02.840 --> 01:00:05.980
line to that is, while there's a Lucifer to light

01:00:05.980 --> 01:00:09.659
your fag, smile, boys, that's the style. Lucifer

01:00:09.659 --> 01:00:11.639
meaning a match and fag meaning a cigarette.

01:00:11.920 --> 01:00:14.639
Oh, yeah. But at the time, everyone knew exactly

01:00:14.639 --> 01:00:16.300
what they were talking about. Oh, as long as

01:00:16.300 --> 01:00:17.900
I got a match to light my cigarette, everything's

01:00:17.900 --> 01:00:20.519
fine. Well, I got one for you. I forgot who it

01:00:20.519 --> 01:00:22.860
was. It was like a record company executive or

01:00:22.860 --> 01:00:25.039
something thought Ozzy was gay because he kept

01:00:25.039 --> 01:00:27.639
coming in and saying, oh, I got about 10 fags.

01:00:29.380 --> 01:00:31.219
He meant cigarettes. Yeah, he meant cigarettes.

01:00:31.280 --> 01:00:36.260
Yeah. And the lady's like, oh, okay. I hope you're

01:00:36.260 --> 01:00:40.440
careful. And she eventually learned that he was

01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:42.099
talking about cigarettes, but she thought, man,

01:00:42.159 --> 01:00:45.239
I think this guy is very promiscuous and better

01:00:45.239 --> 01:00:50.539
watch it. There is also a British movie that

01:00:50.539 --> 01:00:52.400
is set in World War II. I think it was made in

01:00:52.400 --> 01:00:55.800
the 50s or 60s. I can't remember the name of

01:00:55.800 --> 01:00:59.699
it. It was very famous and very well known. war

01:00:59.699 --> 01:01:02.820
movie concentrating on the Royal Air Force. And

01:01:02.820 --> 01:01:06.179
they have a mascot dog at the airstrip who is

01:01:06.179 --> 01:01:09.940
a black rat Labrador. And his name is the N -word.

01:01:11.440 --> 01:01:14.099
And they call him that all through the movie.

01:01:14.400 --> 01:01:16.940
So you're constantly hearing a word that rhymes

01:01:16.940 --> 01:01:19.760
with digger. And they're talking about the dog.

01:01:20.340 --> 01:01:24.019
And they never bleep that. If they show the movie,

01:01:24.119 --> 01:01:26.679
they don't bleep it. So most networks just won't

01:01:26.679 --> 01:01:29.849
show the movie. But it's available on video and

01:01:29.849 --> 01:01:33.449
streaming and it's unedited. They still leave

01:01:33.449 --> 01:01:36.190
that word in. Wow. Isn't that crazy? Yeah, that

01:01:36.190 --> 01:01:39.150
is. And it's not like that was slang for anything

01:01:39.150 --> 01:01:41.570
else because they were talking about a completely

01:01:41.570 --> 01:01:45.690
black dog and using that word. They knew what

01:01:45.690 --> 01:01:48.610
they were doing. Yes. They knew exactly what

01:01:48.610 --> 01:01:51.670
they were doing. Even Blazing Saddles, they get

01:01:51.670 --> 01:01:54.679
edited highly. But at least Blazing Saddles,

01:01:54.679 --> 01:01:56.940
it was all done for humor. It was joking, yes.

01:01:57.159 --> 01:02:00.219
Yeah. And in Quentin Tarantino movies, it's done

01:02:00.219 --> 01:02:03.980
as slang or for effect. I mean, Quentin Tarantino

01:02:03.980 --> 01:02:06.320
said the N -word about 100 times more than anybody

01:02:06.320 --> 01:02:09.400
else on the planet. Yeah. But he gets it pretty

01:02:09.400 --> 01:02:11.900
fast. Yeah. But in this old war movie, it was

01:02:11.900 --> 01:02:14.639
just casually thrown in as the name. Imagine

01:02:14.639 --> 01:02:18.460
having a pet name, you know, something horrible

01:02:18.460 --> 01:02:22.909
like... Dago or something. Or Spick. Yeah. Now,

01:02:23.409 --> 01:02:26.829
remember the product called Spick and Spam? Yeah.

01:02:27.030 --> 01:02:29.329
They don't call that anymore. What's it called

01:02:29.329 --> 01:02:31.949
now? I don't think they even make it anymore.

01:02:33.349 --> 01:02:35.710
Imagine having a racial slur as the name of your

01:02:35.710 --> 01:02:37.909
project. They'd probably be pissed. It's like,

01:02:37.969 --> 01:02:39.929
we had our name and now these fuckers hijacked

01:02:39.929 --> 01:02:42.190
it. There used to be a weight loss candy called

01:02:42.190 --> 01:02:45.429
AIDS. Yeah, A -Y -D -S. AIDS would help you lose

01:02:45.429 --> 01:02:48.769
weight. They're no longer around. That was horrible.

01:02:49.480 --> 01:02:51.320
You can look them up on the Internet. It's A

01:02:51.320 --> 01:02:53.579
-Y -D -S. And the reason I know about it is because

01:02:53.579 --> 01:02:57.039
my mom had them for a while. Yeah. And I used

01:02:57.039 --> 01:02:58.880
to eat them. But she wasn't looking because they

01:02:58.880 --> 01:03:01.139
tasted like chocolate. And, of course, South

01:03:01.139 --> 01:03:03.619
Park did a whole episode where Jared Vogel was

01:03:03.619 --> 01:03:05.760
telling people, yeah, I lost weight because I

01:03:05.760 --> 01:03:08.679
have AIDS. And he meant A -I -D -E -S, people

01:03:08.679 --> 01:03:10.579
who helped him. Oh, yeah. But everyone thought

01:03:10.579 --> 01:03:12.420
he was talking about the disease. And he kept

01:03:12.420 --> 01:03:14.179
saying, yeah, I want to go out and give a bunch

01:03:14.179 --> 01:03:16.300
of children AIDS so they can lose weight. And

01:03:16.300 --> 01:03:19.510
they were like, you monster. Which, in real life,

01:03:19.530 --> 01:03:21.510
he was. He really was. But in the context of

01:03:21.510 --> 01:03:23.190
the show, it was all just a misunderstanding.

01:03:23.369 --> 01:03:26.369
But that's how they got away with calling him

01:03:26.369 --> 01:03:30.929
a diseased pedophile on the show. The funny thing

01:03:30.929 --> 01:03:36.590
is, they are the perfect example of illustration

01:03:36.590 --> 01:03:40.590
through the absurd. Yes. They make it so absurd

01:03:40.590 --> 01:03:43.480
that it's not... It's not believable. At the

01:03:43.480 --> 01:03:46.619
same time, it has a message that is explaining

01:03:46.619 --> 01:03:49.059
something that's going on that's not far off

01:03:49.059 --> 01:03:51.460
from what they're explaining. They're brilliant.

01:03:51.639 --> 01:03:55.320
Always have been. I remember back when I used

01:03:55.320 --> 01:03:57.800
to argue with people about things. I don't anymore

01:03:57.800 --> 01:04:02.320
because it's pointless. It's pointless. There

01:04:02.320 --> 01:04:05.420
was a woman who was talking about how important

01:04:05.420 --> 01:04:09.679
it was to hire based on ethnicity and minority

01:04:09.679 --> 01:04:12.960
status. regardless as if they're qualified. Yeah.

01:04:13.300 --> 01:04:15.400
And she was all for that and thought it was a

01:04:15.400 --> 01:04:17.139
great idea and thought that everybody should

01:04:17.139 --> 01:04:20.539
do it. And I said, okay, if one of your grandchildren

01:04:20.539 --> 01:04:24.380
is going in for open heart surgery, do you want

01:04:24.380 --> 01:04:27.519
the doctor who earned his way there or the doctor

01:04:27.519 --> 01:04:30.300
who was hired because he filled a minority slot?

01:04:30.619 --> 01:04:33.179
Who do you want operating on your grandchild?

01:04:33.400 --> 01:04:36.079
And she wouldn't answer. What? That's just absurd.

01:04:36.139 --> 01:04:38.679
That would never happen. No. Because she's in

01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:40.980
denial because she knew she couldn't honestly

01:04:40.980 --> 01:04:44.260
say the thing that would reinforce her views.

01:04:44.300 --> 01:04:46.300
She would have to admit, no, I want the doctor

01:04:46.300 --> 01:04:48.940
who's qualified. That's a great example, actually.

01:04:49.159 --> 01:04:53.500
Or also EMTs. Uh -oh, they can't lift this guy

01:04:53.500 --> 01:04:55.300
up and put him on a gurney, so he's just going

01:04:55.300 --> 01:04:57.820
to lay there for a few minutes while they call

01:04:57.820 --> 01:04:59.960
another person out there, and then in that time

01:04:59.960 --> 01:05:02.059
he's probably going to die. It's also effective

01:05:02.059 --> 01:05:04.800
with airline pilots. If you got on an airplane

01:05:04.800 --> 01:05:07.059
and you're going to be flying for hours, do you

01:05:07.059 --> 01:05:09.519
want your pilot to be a very well -qualified,

01:05:09.619 --> 01:05:11.579
well -checked out? Or do you want your pilot

01:05:11.579 --> 01:05:14.420
to be somebody who got his or her job through

01:05:14.420 --> 01:05:17.019
backdoor channels or the good old boy network

01:05:17.019 --> 01:05:19.860
or because they filled a quotient? Yeah. No,

01:05:19.960 --> 01:05:21.940
you want it. You want, yeah. You want the most

01:05:21.940 --> 01:05:23.519
qualified. When it's your life, when it's your

01:05:23.519 --> 01:05:26.440
risk to take, you want all those things to be

01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:28.940
done exactly right. And that's a problem in politics,

01:05:29.099 --> 01:05:34.179
too. Yeah. A bunch of people. Anyhow, we'll go

01:05:34.179 --> 01:05:38.739
on. All right, how about will rock music ever

01:05:38.739 --> 01:05:43.300
make a comeback with younger people? In a different

01:05:43.300 --> 01:05:45.119
form. I think it will in a different form. It

01:05:45.119 --> 01:05:49.380
might be like in R &B or it might be in country

01:05:49.380 --> 01:05:52.300
or it might be all together. But right now you

01:05:52.300 --> 01:05:55.579
see a lot of rock or a lot of R &B and country

01:05:55.579 --> 01:05:58.460
mixed together doing very well. I could see someone

01:05:58.460 --> 01:06:01.800
going, hey. You know, kind of like Aerosmith

01:06:01.800 --> 01:06:06.500
did with Run DMC, which really brought Aerosmith

01:06:06.500 --> 01:06:08.119
back to prominence. Yeah, it really saved their

01:06:08.119 --> 01:06:11.860
asses. Yeah, it did. I could see it. I think,

01:06:11.940 --> 01:06:15.159
yeah, but not in its current form. Yeah, I go

01:06:15.159 --> 01:06:17.860
back to a quote from Alice Cooper, who said that

01:06:17.860 --> 01:06:20.079
rock is always done better when it's the outsider,

01:06:20.320 --> 01:06:23.699
not the main thing. And when it's the main thing,

01:06:23.840 --> 01:06:27.619
it gets bloated and fat. The money leeches come

01:06:27.619 --> 01:06:31.320
in. Yeah. But when rock's the outsider, do whatever

01:06:31.320 --> 01:06:33.579
it wants. Doesn't have to please anybody. That

01:06:33.579 --> 01:06:35.219
is the best way. That's where you get the most

01:06:35.219 --> 01:06:38.280
truest, purest forms of music the best. Yeah.

01:06:39.320 --> 01:06:42.760
So I would see, as you say, coming in in a different

01:06:42.760 --> 01:06:46.000
form, but with the same attitude of rock and

01:06:46.000 --> 01:06:49.480
rock and roll and embracing the outsider atmosphere

01:06:49.480 --> 01:06:52.519
or the outsider image. And that's how come, like,

01:06:52.519 --> 01:06:54.900
when Guns N' Roses had Ice -T open up for them

01:06:54.900 --> 01:06:58.570
in Body Count, It worked. It was the same attitude.

01:06:59.389 --> 01:07:01.849
Just different people in a different form of

01:07:01.849 --> 01:07:05.349
music. I liked Ice -T. I did too. I like this

01:07:05.349 --> 01:07:08.869
music. I still do. I can still listen to some.

01:07:09.070 --> 01:07:12.769
Or my favorite song is Evil Dick. That thing.

01:07:13.949 --> 01:07:16.070
He was talking about Richard Nixon, right? Yeah,

01:07:16.070 --> 01:07:18.449
yeah, yeah. Don't sleep alone, don't sleep alone,

01:07:18.550 --> 01:07:25.039
don't sleep alone. Evil. Dick. You know, he's

01:07:25.039 --> 01:07:26.519
talking about trying to be good, and then all

01:07:26.519 --> 01:07:28.059
of a sudden, late at night, his dick comes to

01:07:28.059 --> 01:07:32.840
him and says, hey, hey, don't sleep alone. Brilliant

01:07:32.840 --> 01:07:35.940
song, especially for teenagers like me. Yeah.

01:07:36.039 --> 01:07:39.460
Like, oh, ah, there, that justifies it. Yeah.

01:07:39.659 --> 01:07:46.119
Not my fault. So, okay, yeah, we agree with that.

01:07:46.880 --> 01:07:50.199
Do you trust the music charts? No. Me neither.

01:07:50.440 --> 01:07:53.420
No. Especially nowadays. It's all digital. It

01:07:53.420 --> 01:07:57.019
can be gerrymandered or whatever the hell they

01:07:57.019 --> 01:07:59.639
want. Yeah. And I think they do that. I think

01:07:59.639 --> 01:08:02.019
they do that. Even if they showed me all the

01:08:02.019 --> 01:08:04.500
numbers and all the results directly, I still

01:08:04.500 --> 01:08:06.679
wouldn't believe it. No. No. Someone made those.

01:08:06.860 --> 01:08:09.599
It's like the Grammys were on last night or the

01:08:09.599 --> 01:08:12.179
night before. I have no interest in knowing who

01:08:12.179 --> 01:08:14.360
won what because it's all bought and paid for.

01:08:14.699 --> 01:08:18.140
The people who won paid for the winning. And

01:08:18.140 --> 01:08:22.250
the people who lost didn't pay enough. You'll

01:08:22.250 --> 01:08:24.590
get voted in if you pay not. I think the Rock

01:08:24.590 --> 01:08:27.109
and Roll Hall of Fame is the same. I know for

01:08:27.109 --> 01:08:31.329
absolutely sure that the Walk of Fame in Hollywood,

01:08:31.470 --> 01:08:34.510
you pay to get in. There's no voting. They take

01:08:34.510 --> 01:08:36.689
out the ones that don't pay. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

01:08:36.710 --> 01:08:39.390
The only voting they do is they have a list of

01:08:39.390 --> 01:08:41.630
people who are willing to pay to get someone's

01:08:41.630 --> 01:08:43.489
name on, and they take the highest paying ones.

01:08:43.970 --> 01:08:47.789
There's no earning it. It's always been a joke.

01:08:48.750 --> 01:08:52.729
It's just pony up the money and then pay every

01:08:52.729 --> 01:08:55.430
year for maintenance, and once they stop paying,

01:08:55.609 --> 01:08:57.649
they jackhammer them up and throw them away.

01:08:57.829 --> 01:09:00.430
They don't even sell them, which they could.

01:09:00.869 --> 01:09:02.649
They always sell them to collectors, but no,

01:09:02.689 --> 01:09:04.630
they just jackhammer them up to make room for

01:09:04.630 --> 01:09:06.350
the next person who's actually going to pay.

01:09:06.850 --> 01:09:11.289
So it's a meaningless so -called honor to have

01:09:11.289 --> 01:09:14.430
your name on the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yeah,

01:09:14.449 --> 01:09:18.460
and the Grammys are the same way. I agree. All

01:09:18.460 --> 01:09:23.439
right. A list of top three or four assholes in

01:09:23.439 --> 01:09:28.479
the music industry. Wow. Many people would say

01:09:28.479 --> 01:09:33.880
Gene Simmons. Yeah. I think Paul Stanley's one

01:09:33.880 --> 01:09:36.439
of them, too. In past years, many people would

01:09:36.439 --> 01:09:42.420
say Frank Sinatra. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Roger

01:09:42.420 --> 01:09:48.990
Waters. Yes. Absolutely Roger Waters. Rono. Yeah.

01:09:48.990 --> 01:09:53.050
Eddie Vedder. Oh, my God, yes. Obnoxious asshole.

01:09:53.229 --> 01:09:56.310
Yeah, yeah. You know, it's starting to look like

01:09:56.310 --> 01:10:00.710
that guy has always been not necessarily a poser,

01:10:00.869 --> 01:10:03.890
but he's never been genuine. It's always been

01:10:03.890 --> 01:10:06.819
an act. Always been an act. Yeah. And Nirvana

01:10:06.819 --> 01:10:09.899
called him out early. Yeah, they did. As fakers

01:10:09.899 --> 01:10:13.159
and posers, et cetera. And then they recanted.

01:10:13.300 --> 01:10:15.779
Said, no, no, I guess he's okay. He's got some

01:10:15.779 --> 01:10:18.119
passion. He's legit. But they were told to. Yeah,

01:10:18.159 --> 01:10:20.020
they were told to by the Wrecker Company. Yeah.

01:10:20.060 --> 01:10:22.899
It's like, quit wrecking our profits. Yeah. Or

01:10:22.899 --> 01:10:25.000
we're going to come wreck your profits. Yeah.

01:10:25.300 --> 01:10:28.020
But yeah, Eddie Vedder has always been whatever

01:10:28.020 --> 01:10:30.479
the situation needed him to be, but none of it

01:10:30.479 --> 01:10:32.279
has been from the heart. Bruce Springsteen. Oh,

01:10:32.359 --> 01:10:37.340
my God, yes. Oh, yeah. John Mellencamp. John

01:10:37.340 --> 01:10:39.640
Mellencamp is really hard to get along with.

01:10:40.619 --> 01:10:44.260
John Lennon was also... He was miserable. Yeah,

01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:48.659
and half of it was Yoko. The other half was he

01:10:48.659 --> 01:10:51.020
had a fucked up childhood. Yeah, he was still

01:10:51.020 --> 01:10:53.140
pretty much of an asshole on his own too. Yeah,

01:10:53.159 --> 01:10:57.819
he was very capable. I would not put Ozzy in

01:10:57.819 --> 01:11:01.489
that list because he was just fun. I mean, no

01:11:01.489 --> 01:11:04.210
matter what he did, he did it with joy and abandon

01:11:04.210 --> 01:11:08.649
and humor. Business -wise, it's Sharon, and you

01:11:08.649 --> 01:11:11.489
can say whatever you want. Well, yeah. But she's

01:11:11.489 --> 01:11:15.670
not in the band. Oh, Ginger Baker from Cream.

01:11:15.850 --> 01:11:18.430
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Monstrous asshole. In fact,

01:11:18.550 --> 01:11:21.449
he physically threatened violence upon his band

01:11:21.449 --> 01:11:26.250
members. The bass player, Jack Bruce, couldn't

01:11:26.250 --> 01:11:28.640
stand him. Wow. He said, we were in the band,

01:11:28.680 --> 01:11:31.539
the music was great, but as a human being, I

01:11:31.539 --> 01:11:33.739
couldn't stand him. He was a son of a bitch,

01:11:33.840 --> 01:11:36.399
he was an asshole, and I was literally in fear

01:11:36.399 --> 01:11:39.100
for my safety. Uh -huh. Because he was so out

01:11:39.100 --> 01:11:43.520
of control, he would have attacked. That's not

01:11:43.520 --> 01:11:46.220
because he's a ginger, but I'm sure that didn't

01:11:46.220 --> 01:11:50.060
help. And he wasn't a baker either. No. Now,

01:11:50.119 --> 01:11:52.640
my youngest son is a ginger. Yeah. And he's got

01:11:52.640 --> 01:11:55.899
a temper. Dave Mustaine is a ginger. He's got

01:11:55.899 --> 01:11:58.520
a temper. Not saying it's always related, but

01:11:58.520 --> 01:12:01.220
every now and then it seems to coincide. Yeah,

01:12:01.380 --> 01:12:03.479
that's true. Now my son Jeffrey is a wonderful

01:12:03.479 --> 01:12:06.159
person, and I love him dearly. And he can get

01:12:06.159 --> 01:12:12.020
angry in a hurry. He can. Very cool. All right.

01:12:13.800 --> 01:12:16.479
Do you have a streaming music service currently?

01:12:18.979 --> 01:12:22.189
Currently I've been using YouTube Music. I like

01:12:22.189 --> 01:12:26.069
that about the best. I chose them because they

01:12:26.069 --> 01:12:30.069
have access to just about everything. Whereas

01:12:30.069 --> 01:12:32.329
plays like Spotify and Pandora, there's stuff

01:12:32.329 --> 01:12:34.409
you just can't get on there. No, they don't recognize

01:12:34.409 --> 01:12:37.949
it. They don't find it. Some of the more obscure

01:12:37.949 --> 01:12:40.449
or out there bands all type in to the search

01:12:40.449 --> 01:12:42.649
and they're like, eh. You can still get Motley

01:12:42.649 --> 01:12:44.989
Crue, Motley Crue. I'm talking about not the

01:12:44.989 --> 01:12:46.869
Too Fast for Love. I'm talking about the only

01:12:46.869 --> 01:12:49.609
one with John Kravik, which they tried to stamp

01:12:49.609 --> 01:12:52.060
out. Yeah. You can still find that on YouTube.

01:12:52.260 --> 01:12:54.640
There's some excellent songs on there. Oh, it

01:12:54.640 --> 01:12:58.539
was one of their better albums. Every time Welcome

01:12:58.539 --> 01:13:01.199
to the Numb comes on, I crank that up. Oh, that's

01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:03.920
a great song. Yeah, and Power to the Music, the

01:13:03.920 --> 01:13:05.859
opening track. Yeah, that's good. Uncle Jack.

01:13:06.060 --> 01:13:10.760
Uncle Jack. Dropping Like Flies. Poison Apples

01:13:10.760 --> 01:13:12.500
is good. Poison Apples, I love that. That is

01:13:12.500 --> 01:13:15.689
an Aerosmith -ish song. I love it. When I was

01:13:15.689 --> 01:13:18.590
in a cover band in the 90s, we did Hooligan's

01:13:18.590 --> 01:13:21.050
Holiday. I love that one, too. And Misunderstood.

01:13:21.710 --> 01:13:23.770
Misunderstood's a great one. But the odd thing

01:13:23.770 --> 01:13:26.850
was, every time we played them live, people really

01:13:26.850 --> 01:13:30.189
loved the song but had no idea who was it. And

01:13:30.189 --> 01:13:31.869
we said, it's Motley Crue. That's pretty much

01:13:31.869 --> 01:13:33.590
true. Really? Is that like an old one? I said,

01:13:33.630 --> 01:13:35.949
no, it's current. It's out now. Go turn it into

01:13:35.949 --> 01:13:38.050
MTV. They were still playing videos at the time.

01:13:38.149 --> 01:13:40.430
I said, your videos are on MTV. It's hard to

01:13:40.430 --> 01:13:42.050
believe they went from that to the very next

01:13:42.050 --> 01:13:45.329
one they had was Generation Swine. No. No direction.

01:13:45.630 --> 01:13:49.770
Nothing. Nothing. Gosh. I'm sure the album before

01:13:49.770 --> 01:13:52.869
Kiss's The Elder came out was probably a good

01:13:52.869 --> 01:13:54.750
one. It was. And the one after was probably a

01:13:54.750 --> 01:13:57.510
good one. But they had that steaming turd right

01:13:57.510 --> 01:14:00.810
in the middle. I think it was Unmasked was before

01:14:00.810 --> 01:14:03.329
The Elder. It wasn't very commercially successful.

01:14:03.590 --> 01:14:06.090
It was still kind of disco -ish. Yeah. But it

01:14:06.090 --> 01:14:08.510
was a great album. And then they decided to do

01:14:08.510 --> 01:14:13.710
that mutant movie track. Yeah, anyhow, it's good

01:14:13.710 --> 01:14:20.090
if you don't expect Kiss. Yeah, if you didn't

01:14:20.090 --> 01:14:21.750
know it was Kiss and couldn't tell it was Kiss,

01:14:21.810 --> 01:14:23.989
you might like it alright. Yes, but you knowing

01:14:23.989 --> 01:14:26.430
it's Kiss is like, fuck you. Yeah, imagine if

01:14:26.430 --> 01:14:28.979
Megadeth came out and played Lawrence Wilk. About

01:14:28.979 --> 01:14:30.859
the same. And employed it the way Lawrence Welk

01:14:30.859 --> 01:14:34.220
played it. Yeah. He'd be like, uh -uh. No, no,

01:14:34.300 --> 01:14:36.439
no, no. This is a nightmare. Stop it. The only

01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:38.880
song I like that has attitude is You're Not Well,

01:14:38.960 --> 01:14:43.000
Mr. Blackwell, You Can Go to Hell. Gene Simmons

01:14:43.000 --> 01:14:45.699
talking about a former boss. Yeah. But it was

01:14:45.699 --> 01:14:49.680
made for the movie, so yeah. That was about it

01:14:49.680 --> 01:14:52.220
for me because that had attitude and it had that

01:14:52.220 --> 01:14:58.210
Gene Simmons attitude, defiance. Yeah. Who would

01:14:58.210 --> 01:15:01.229
be the best guitarist as of today? Not yesterday,

01:15:01.449 --> 01:15:03.970
not the day before. You know, ones that are still

01:15:03.970 --> 01:15:08.789
alive and active. I've got to put Nuno Betancourt

01:15:08.789 --> 01:15:13.449
up there. Yes, he would be my first. Wolfgang

01:15:13.449 --> 01:15:17.569
Van Halen. Yeah. He's pretty insane. I cannot

01:15:17.569 --> 01:15:21.149
believe how good he is. And he never... And I

01:15:21.149 --> 01:15:23.100
know why. He didn't want to be compared to his

01:15:23.100 --> 01:15:25.520
father, but now he's so many years removed, and

01:15:25.520 --> 01:15:28.159
so many albums removed, he's like, why not? And

01:15:28.159 --> 01:15:30.899
really, any similarity, you can put directly

01:15:30.899 --> 01:15:32.800
down to, well, that was his dad. That's what

01:15:32.800 --> 01:15:34.539
he grew up hearing. Of course he's going to sound

01:15:34.539 --> 01:15:36.600
like him in some ways, but you know he's not

01:15:36.600 --> 01:15:38.720
ripping him off. You can tell. He's not ripping

01:15:38.720 --> 01:15:40.920
off his dad or band hand. He's potentially doing

01:15:40.920 --> 01:15:44.039
everything completely different. Yeah. And also

01:15:44.039 --> 01:15:48.579
his voice. Yeah. He's a good singer, too. Let's

01:15:48.579 --> 01:15:50.560
see. Another really, really, really good guitar

01:15:50.560 --> 01:15:56.979
player. Let's see, as of today, Zach Wild, of

01:15:56.979 --> 01:15:59.279
course. Zach Wild still got it. Phil Collin.

01:15:59.319 --> 01:16:03.760
Phil Collin, yeah. Vivian Campbell. Yes, yes,

01:16:03.760 --> 01:16:07.579
yes, yes, yes. Jakey Lee, you could still consider

01:16:07.579 --> 01:16:09.399
him a good guitarist, even though he has a lot

01:16:09.399 --> 01:16:14.100
of ailments that kind of prevents him. Dick Wagner's

01:16:14.100 --> 01:16:16.920
dead. Steve Hunter, if he's still going, he plays

01:16:16.920 --> 01:16:22.220
amazing blues -based music. Marty Feldman? Yeah.

01:16:23.230 --> 01:16:25.470
Marty Friedman. Friedman. Yeah, not Feldman.

01:16:25.529 --> 01:16:29.329
Friedman. Jason Becker, but I think he's about

01:16:29.329 --> 01:16:34.810
dead. Yeah. Yeah, he's got ALS maybe. Let's see.

01:16:34.909 --> 01:16:38.649
Who else? There's a lot of them I'm not even

01:16:38.649 --> 01:16:41.270
thinking of. Steve Vai, of course. Yeah. Yngwie's

01:16:41.270 --> 01:16:43.970
still good, but an asshole. Yeah. Joe Satriani,

01:16:44.069 --> 01:16:49.390
of course. Gilmore's still really... David Gilmore,

01:16:49.449 --> 01:16:52.470
yeah. Yeah. Just his inventiveness. And the way

01:16:52.470 --> 01:16:55.949
he gets these sounds, and then he uses them to

01:16:55.949 --> 01:16:58.930
such perfection. Oh, I know. He'll sit there

01:16:58.930 --> 01:17:02.989
and do things with a note, and that is David

01:17:02.989 --> 01:17:05.909
Gilmour. And nobody else. And you hear it go,

01:17:06.050 --> 01:17:07.949
that sounds like David Gilmour. And then you

01:17:07.949 --> 01:17:09.970
look at the title, and that is David Gilmour.

01:17:10.229 --> 01:17:12.470
It's weird to think that so many times when he's

01:17:12.470 --> 01:17:15.350
soloing, he's using really, really high gain.

01:17:15.670 --> 01:17:18.090
Isn't that weird? I mean, heavy metal style high

01:17:18.090 --> 01:17:20.409
gain. He's got the fuzz pedal that he really

01:17:20.409 --> 01:17:26.680
loves. So it's just that really hot, hot signal.

01:17:26.899 --> 01:17:29.260
It just sounds perfect. I mean, he uses it to

01:17:29.260 --> 01:17:33.560
perfection. Yeah. All right. I mean, we can move

01:17:33.560 --> 01:17:35.460
on from that. There's more, but, I mean, there's

01:17:35.460 --> 01:17:37.239
so many out there that are really good. You know,

01:17:37.260 --> 01:17:43.640
it's really hard to. There's even, like, Taboshi.

01:17:44.060 --> 01:17:46.560
Taboshi. Not very well known, but he's a rhythm

01:17:46.560 --> 01:17:49.199
lead guy. Very interesting. Look him up if you

01:17:49.199 --> 01:17:58.630
ever get a time. Yeah. Forte slash, what's his

01:17:58.630 --> 01:18:05.409
name, Jimmy? No, Michael Forte. All right. Mick

01:18:05.409 --> 01:18:07.630
Mars versus Motley Crue, was the verdict fair?

01:18:08.930 --> 01:18:12.109
You know, if the video I watched was correct

01:18:12.109 --> 01:18:14.710
about everything, then Mick Mars basically did

01:18:14.710 --> 01:18:18.010
this to himself. Yes. That's kind of what I'm

01:18:18.010 --> 01:18:21.000
gathering into this, too. Yeah. And the members

01:18:21.000 --> 01:18:23.939
of Motley Crue, well, Tommy and Nicky, because

01:18:23.939 --> 01:18:25.739
Vince doesn't have anything to do with it. And

01:18:25.739 --> 01:18:29.060
neither does John. They knew all along. And they

01:18:29.060 --> 01:18:31.319
kept their mouths shut because why tell somebody

01:18:31.319 --> 01:18:33.119
in advance exactly how you're going to crush

01:18:33.119 --> 01:18:35.720
them? And they let it go to this point and then

01:18:35.720 --> 01:18:39.460
sprang that out. Say, uh -uh, lucky here. From

01:18:39.460 --> 01:18:44.199
what I understand, way back when, when the members

01:18:44.199 --> 01:18:47.680
of Motley Crue were signing another management

01:18:47.680 --> 01:18:52.359
deal, A business deal. Mick was getting a 25

01:18:52.359 --> 01:18:58.100
% share. But Mick wanted the language written

01:18:58.100 --> 01:19:03.260
in that anybody who retires from touring will

01:19:03.260 --> 01:19:05.659
be considered retiring from the band. They were

01:19:05.659 --> 01:19:08.300
labeled as a retiring officer of the corporation.

01:19:09.279 --> 01:19:12.739
And will be divested of all their offices and

01:19:12.739 --> 01:19:15.119
all the corporations. And their share will go

01:19:15.119 --> 01:19:19.390
from 25 % down to 5%. And just all these restrictions,

01:19:19.670 --> 01:19:22.470
and Mick put that in there because he thought

01:19:22.470 --> 01:19:26.189
Tommy, Nicky, and Vince and their drug addictions,

01:19:26.229 --> 01:19:28.930
he thought they were going to be the ones quitting

01:19:28.930 --> 01:19:31.250
touring, and that way he'd wind up with full

01:19:31.250 --> 01:19:33.989
control of the band. But it happened the other

01:19:33.989 --> 01:19:37.869
way around. Mick Mars' ankylosing spondylitis,

01:19:37.909 --> 01:19:41.850
his AS, basically forced him out of touring.

01:19:41.890 --> 01:19:43.909
He told them, I don't want to do the day after

01:19:43.909 --> 01:19:46.109
eight, night after night, living on the bus.

01:19:46.619 --> 01:19:48.939
I'll do the residencies, I'll do the one -off

01:19:48.939 --> 01:19:51.079
shows, I'll do the specials and the benefits,

01:19:51.140 --> 01:19:53.340
but, like, the daily grind of touring, I just

01:19:53.340 --> 01:19:55.880
can't do it anymore. And also, supposedly, he

01:19:55.880 --> 01:19:59.359
had a lot of trouble playing. Yeah. And, you

01:19:59.359 --> 01:20:00.979
know, a lot of his ailment had to do with that

01:20:00.979 --> 01:20:02.819
age, probably, too. He is a little bit older

01:20:02.819 --> 01:20:07.140
than the rest of them. So, yeah, you know what?

01:20:07.199 --> 01:20:09.739
I mean, I don't owe Nicky an apology. He's been

01:20:09.739 --> 01:20:12.579
a dick enough in other areas to where I justify

01:20:12.579 --> 01:20:16.560
him on my statements about him. Yeah. Right there?

01:20:17.399 --> 01:20:21.159
I didn't know the whole story. Yeah, yeah. They

01:20:21.159 --> 01:20:23.439
were within their legal rights to do it the way

01:20:23.439 --> 01:20:26.819
they did it, but it's still a dick move. Yeah,

01:20:26.859 --> 01:20:29.699
it's still a dick move, yes. But also, I think

01:20:29.699 --> 01:20:31.720
that he brought some of it on with some of the

01:20:31.720 --> 01:20:35.520
language that he made them use in the legal stuff.

01:20:36.539 --> 01:20:40.140
So he kind of got just desserts. Yeah, and he

01:20:40.140 --> 01:20:43.670
has to pay back the tour advances he got. Yeah,

01:20:43.670 --> 01:20:45.869
because he didn't play all those. Yeah, the tour

01:20:45.869 --> 01:20:49.130
in which he quit on, nobody else took advances.

01:20:49.390 --> 01:20:51.989
Nick Mars took advances. And he has never paid

01:20:51.989 --> 01:20:53.949
that money back. Which tells me that he might

01:20:53.949 --> 01:20:57.029
be in financial trouble. Especially since his

01:20:57.029 --> 01:20:59.630
share has gone way down to 5 % for songwriting.

01:20:59.890 --> 01:21:02.010
And nobody gives a shit about Motley Crue anymore.

01:21:02.350 --> 01:21:04.590
And all of his income from all their other organizations

01:21:04.590 --> 01:21:08.329
and corporations and LLCs, it's gone. He's out.

01:21:08.930 --> 01:21:12.420
By retiring from touring. That was, it triggered

01:21:12.420 --> 01:21:15.500
the clause that said, okay, you're out of everything

01:21:15.500 --> 01:21:18.159
then. Yeah. You'll get 5%. And isn't that odd

01:21:18.159 --> 01:21:20.180
that he's the one that commanded that too? He's

01:21:20.180 --> 01:21:22.739
the one who made sure that language is in there.

01:21:23.680 --> 01:21:27.800
Yeah. Yeah. He got stabbed by his own sword.

01:21:28.239 --> 01:21:32.640
Yep, he did. Well, you know what? That's the

01:21:32.640 --> 01:21:35.500
way it goes. Yeah. All right. Will John V leave

01:21:35.500 --> 01:21:39.680
Motlin? Yes. Yes. I think he's really close to

01:21:39.680 --> 01:21:42.630
right now. Yeah, I keep seeing articles saying

01:21:42.630 --> 01:21:46.970
that John 5's rank -and -file fans really think

01:21:46.970 --> 01:21:50.310
he's slumming and wasting time and wasting energy.

01:21:50.470 --> 01:21:51.949
It's like, you could be putting out good music,

01:21:51.970 --> 01:21:54.010
but you're doing this instead. We're starting

01:21:54.010 --> 01:21:57.250
to not like you anymore. Yeah, you know, if Motley

01:21:57.250 --> 01:21:59.550
Crue were like they were back before, where they're

01:21:59.550 --> 01:22:01.149
putting out good music, he would have been a

01:22:01.149 --> 01:22:03.350
great fit, even though I don't think he has any

01:22:03.350 --> 01:22:07.119
feeling and I'm not a huge fan. He would be fine.

01:22:07.279 --> 01:22:10.680
He would be fine. But the thing is, it looks

01:22:10.680 --> 01:22:13.659
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01:23:15.130 --> 01:23:18.270
Allegedly. No, not really. But you do get the

01:23:18.270 --> 01:23:24.670
poster. Out. So, do you think Rob Zombie's going

01:23:24.670 --> 01:23:27.890
to want him back? I think he'd take him back.

01:23:27.989 --> 01:23:31.210
I think he'd take him back. I think he did have

01:23:31.210 --> 01:23:33.989
some ill feelings though, didn't he? Yeah. I

01:23:33.989 --> 01:23:36.689
still take the business to business. True. And

01:23:36.689 --> 01:23:39.829
John 5 was perfect for what he does. Yeah. Yeah,

01:23:39.829 --> 01:23:42.149
not so much for what Motley does, but for what

01:23:42.149 --> 01:23:45.090
he does. Yeah. Yeah. And then returning to Rob

01:23:45.090 --> 01:23:48.109
Zombie would be a good way to rehabilitate his

01:23:48.109 --> 01:23:51.390
image, John 5's image. Yes. It's like, okay,

01:23:51.449 --> 01:23:55.250
I'm back where I belong. An album later and a

01:23:55.250 --> 01:23:57.310
tour later, his fans will have forgiven him and

01:23:57.310 --> 01:23:58.970
say, okay, I'll just forgive him and let's go.

01:23:59.390 --> 01:24:06.359
Yeah. Yeah, he's... It can be a trap going after

01:24:06.359 --> 01:24:12.340
the immediate gain financially, popularity -wise,

01:24:12.479 --> 01:24:15.100
getting your face and image and getting everyone

01:24:15.100 --> 01:24:18.939
to know who you are. But then putting out the

01:24:18.939 --> 01:24:21.800
stuff that Motley Crue's been putting out, their

01:24:21.800 --> 01:24:26.239
last album was garbage, and all the negative

01:24:26.239 --> 01:24:29.380
feeling towards them. I don't think he's getting

01:24:29.380 --> 01:24:32.239
nearly as much as he thought he would from associating

01:24:32.239 --> 01:24:36.359
with Monaco. I agree. I agree. I can imagine

01:24:36.359 --> 01:24:39.060
John Fives' management is telling him, we've

01:24:39.060 --> 01:24:41.479
got to get out. Let's figure out a graceful exit

01:24:41.479 --> 01:24:43.239
strategy, but you've got to get out of this.

01:24:43.239 --> 01:24:44.760
You see, he's really good friends with Nicky,

01:24:44.760 --> 01:24:46.819
so I think it's got to be done very carefully,

01:24:46.920 --> 01:24:50.060
and it will be. Yeah, I would be paranoid to

01:24:50.060 --> 01:24:53.119
quit and have them come after me. I would too,

01:24:53.239 --> 01:24:55.319
yeah. You've got to really, really carefully

01:24:55.319 --> 01:24:57.829
look over the contract you signed. They went

01:24:57.829 --> 01:25:00.989
after Carabi. They went after everybody that

01:25:00.989 --> 01:25:03.689
is an ex, per se. Vince Neil, when he was gone,

01:25:03.810 --> 01:25:05.949
they went after him. When they brought him back,

01:25:06.010 --> 01:25:09.449
he's only a higher performer. So they have a

01:25:09.449 --> 01:25:11.710
history of kind of like gouging anybody they

01:25:11.710 --> 01:25:14.489
could, in my opinion. I think in order to make

01:25:14.489 --> 01:25:17.949
a clean break, John 5 would have to sign a statement

01:25:17.949 --> 01:25:22.350
saying that upon leaving the band, you don't

01:25:22.350 --> 01:25:26.170
owe me another dime for anything ever. even if

01:25:26.170 --> 01:25:29.090
the contract says you do, I forego, I decline,

01:25:29.390 --> 01:25:31.789
just whatever money is made by on this point,

01:25:31.829 --> 01:25:34.649
it's all yours, not mine. Then I think Motley

01:25:34.649 --> 01:25:36.789
Crue would leave him alone. Yeah, I think that,

01:25:36.829 --> 01:25:39.789
like, okay, he would probably go to, this is

01:25:39.789 --> 01:25:41.609
the way I envision it, and tell me if you think

01:25:41.609 --> 01:25:44.489
I'm right or wrong. He would first go to Rob

01:25:44.489 --> 01:25:48.949
Zombie. Yeah. He'd call and go, hey, this isn't

01:25:48.949 --> 01:25:50.369
working out, I'm sorry, I thought it was going

01:25:50.369 --> 01:25:52.229
to be a good fit. I think he calls him Bobby.

01:25:52.670 --> 01:25:57.289
Bobby. Yeah, probably. Let's see. All right.

01:25:57.390 --> 01:26:00.229
You be Rob Zombie, okay? Okay. Ring, ring, ring.

01:26:00.390 --> 01:26:05.329
Hello. Hey, remember me? Oh, yeah. Jack Four

01:26:05.329 --> 01:26:08.470
or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. John

01:26:08.470 --> 01:26:12.029
Five. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. Well, Bobby. Can

01:26:12.029 --> 01:26:16.670
I call you Bobby? Sure. Okay. Bobby, this month,

01:26:16.729 --> 01:26:19.449
please don't laugh. Okay. I'll try not to laugh.

01:26:19.899 --> 01:26:22.340
Yeah, okay, so the Smiley thing really isn't

01:26:22.340 --> 01:26:25.300
working out like it should. I told you so. Damn

01:26:25.300 --> 01:26:31.420
it. You laughed. Was that a yes or a no? That

01:26:31.420 --> 01:26:36.399
was an okay. That's how it's going to go. Yeah.

01:26:36.739 --> 01:26:38.920
Okay. Yeah, I think there would have to be a

01:26:38.920 --> 01:26:40.539
little bit of crawling, a little ass kissing,

01:26:40.640 --> 01:26:44.359
a little. A little apologizing. Maybe a rub and

01:26:44.359 --> 01:26:47.119
tug in there. Yeah. But if Rob Zombie thinks

01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:48.979
he can make money with John 5, he'll take it

01:26:48.979 --> 01:26:50.199
back. He will. That's what I'm talking about

01:26:50.199 --> 01:26:52.779
right there. Because first and foremost, it's

01:26:52.779 --> 01:26:55.880
a business. Yeah. I would put Rob Zombie up there

01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:59.779
in the category of people who are extremely smart

01:26:59.779 --> 01:27:03.020
in the business aspect. Yes. But have not compromised

01:27:03.020 --> 01:27:06.619
the entertainment and musical side. Kind of like

01:27:06.619 --> 01:27:11.600
Taylor Swift. Her music has not suffered. from

01:27:11.600 --> 01:27:15.640
her business business side yeah i mean she's

01:27:15.640 --> 01:27:19.020
got tons of investments she's she's heavily involved

01:27:19.020 --> 01:27:22.340
in a lot of the financial decisions but she still

01:27:22.340 --> 01:27:25.640
writes and performs music that sells outrageously

01:27:25.640 --> 01:27:28.619
and everyone wants to come here yeah no she's

01:27:28.619 --> 01:27:30.600
doing it right i think rob zombie's doing it

01:27:30.600 --> 01:27:32.819
right he's not burning any bridges he's not being

01:27:32.819 --> 01:27:35.380
a dick but he's holding people accountable he's

01:27:35.380 --> 01:27:37.939
like all right well i'll take you back but here's

01:27:37.939 --> 01:27:39.779
what you did to me so here's how it's got to

01:27:39.779 --> 01:27:42.619
work And you can't really get bent about that

01:27:42.619 --> 01:27:43.819
because he's being reasonable. And his percentage

01:27:43.819 --> 01:27:46.100
probably would be much lower this time around,

01:27:46.239 --> 01:27:49.140
too, and all that. But, you know. Okay. And also,

01:27:49.239 --> 01:27:51.420
Rob Zombie is just really touring anymore like

01:27:51.420 --> 01:27:53.619
most of them. I don't think he's put out music

01:27:53.619 --> 01:27:56.479
in, what, 15 years maybe or something? It's been

01:27:56.479 --> 01:27:59.039
a while. I mean, Dragula's the last one I remember.

01:27:59.300 --> 01:28:02.159
That's probably over 20 years, actually. Okay.

01:28:02.720 --> 01:28:04.979
And it's funny to think that he started with

01:28:04.979 --> 01:28:10.130
White Zombie. Mm -hmm. So... All right, that

01:28:10.130 --> 01:28:12.949
is all I had of bullet points, but I have some

01:28:12.949 --> 01:28:15.550
other stuff. Okay, I've got a supplementary bullet

01:28:15.550 --> 01:28:23.109
point. Okay. Is in five, six years, how do you

01:28:23.109 --> 01:28:26.989
see the touring industry going? Are we going

01:28:26.989 --> 01:28:31.090
to have lots of tours of various styles and sizes,

01:28:31.229 --> 01:28:34.350
or is it all going to be the big mega tours?

01:28:35.149 --> 01:28:37.029
I think it's all going to be big mega tours.

01:28:37.130 --> 01:28:40.529
And here's one of the reasons is people like

01:28:40.529 --> 01:28:43.689
me that have been avid concert goers for years,

01:28:43.869 --> 01:28:47.449
love concerts, are done. Yeah. And that's because

01:28:47.449 --> 01:28:49.489
of constantly getting fucked over concerts. Yes,

01:28:49.489 --> 01:28:51.949
absolutely. I mean, over and over. And the thing

01:28:51.949 --> 01:28:54.670
is, the bottom line is, is if they don't make

01:28:54.670 --> 01:28:57.750
enough money in advance to work with, they're

01:28:57.750 --> 01:29:00.090
not doing it. Yeah. And then instead of giving

01:29:00.090 --> 01:29:02.520
us our money back like... fucking decent people

01:29:02.520 --> 01:29:04.680
would be. They're going, well, we got credit

01:29:04.680 --> 01:29:06.720
right here. I don't want to go to another fucking

01:29:06.720 --> 01:29:08.439
concert. I'm tired of you guys. I'm done with

01:29:08.439 --> 01:29:11.199
you shysters. It's over. I want my money back.

01:29:11.260 --> 01:29:12.960
I don't want to go to another fucked up concert.

01:29:13.039 --> 01:29:16.039
I'm done with it. And this is all because of

01:29:16.039 --> 01:29:18.640
them and how they're doing business. And I think

01:29:18.640 --> 01:29:20.500
a lot of people are like me. I know you are too.

01:29:20.699 --> 01:29:22.920
I don't want nothing to do with it unless it's

01:29:22.920 --> 01:29:25.899
a really small event like a knuckleheads and

01:29:25.899 --> 01:29:27.880
you don't deal with ticket bastards and all those

01:29:27.880 --> 01:29:35.899
assholes. I can see a common music fan who goes

01:29:35.899 --> 01:29:40.399
to concerts and is like 20, 25, 30 years old.

01:29:41.720 --> 01:29:44.020
They don't have time and energy to devote to

01:29:44.020 --> 01:29:46.020
like 10 or 15 different bands that they follow.

01:29:46.539 --> 01:29:49.420
It's just like one or two big name acts. Oh,

01:29:49.479 --> 01:29:53.840
Taylor. Oh, Jelly Roll. Oh, whoever. And when

01:29:53.840 --> 01:29:56.140
they tour, they're going to go because it's an

01:29:56.140 --> 01:30:01.340
event. It's something to brag about. They're

01:30:01.340 --> 01:30:03.220
not going for the music necessarily. It's like,

01:30:03.279 --> 01:30:05.300
oh, well, I can't be seen not going to this,

01:30:05.340 --> 01:30:07.960
so I have to be seen going there. It's more of

01:30:07.960 --> 01:30:11.000
a personal appearance on the fans' part and bragging

01:30:11.000 --> 01:30:15.760
rights. You and I and people closer to our age,

01:30:15.939 --> 01:30:18.239
they go to concerts because we want to see the

01:30:18.239 --> 01:30:20.340
band. We want to hear them play live. We want

01:30:20.340 --> 01:30:22.500
to experience that and pretend, hey, this is

01:30:22.500 --> 01:30:24.460
how it sounded in the studio when they were recording

01:30:24.460 --> 01:30:29.630
it. And it's a great experience. But huge production

01:30:29.630 --> 01:30:34.329
concerts, you're hearing backing tracks and sequence

01:30:34.329 --> 01:30:37.710
tracks and pre -programmed everything. There's

01:30:37.710 --> 01:30:41.470
no live to it at all. It's just the person you

01:30:41.470 --> 01:30:43.670
want to see is actually physically standing there,

01:30:43.810 --> 01:30:48.130
but everything you're hearing is canned. And

01:30:48.130 --> 01:30:51.020
for a lot of people, that's good enough. And

01:30:51.020 --> 01:30:53.420
for the people that's not good enough, we're

01:30:53.420 --> 01:30:54.699
just going to have to stop because they're not

01:30:54.699 --> 01:30:56.199
going to give us what we want. That's a part

01:30:56.199 --> 01:30:59.100
that I forgot I didn't even put in there. Besides

01:30:59.100 --> 01:31:01.539
getting dicked over all the time. But yeah, most

01:31:01.539 --> 01:31:03.800
of it isn't live anymore. Especially the big

01:31:03.800 --> 01:31:06.939
megatours. Everything is backtracked or lip synced

01:31:06.939 --> 01:31:10.520
or all of it. There's a YouTube channel called

01:31:10.520 --> 01:31:14.399
Wings of Pegasus and this guy... uses uh technology

01:31:14.399 --> 01:31:18.020
to isolate vocal tracks yes and demonstrates

01:31:18.020 --> 01:31:21.220
that this is exactly the same as this one which

01:31:21.220 --> 01:31:24.100
is exactly the same as the example he gave was

01:31:24.100 --> 01:31:27.100
the eagles and that song seven bridges road which

01:31:27.100 --> 01:31:28.840
has all those harmonies you told me about that

01:31:28.840 --> 01:31:30.920
i went and i checked that out and there's no

01:31:30.920 --> 01:31:33.199
possible way it could all be exactly the same

01:31:33.199 --> 01:31:36.479
yeah it's yeah it's the same song yeah he showed

01:31:36.479 --> 01:31:38.899
the spectrographic analysis of the vocals and

01:31:38.899 --> 01:31:41.770
here's the exact pitches the vocals are hitting

01:31:41.770 --> 01:31:44.550
at this exact time. And he said, okay, let's

01:31:44.550 --> 01:31:47.750
go back to six months earlier at this show and

01:31:47.750 --> 01:31:49.670
then a year and a half earlier at this show.

01:31:50.050 --> 01:31:51.909
And he overlaid all three of them and they're

01:31:51.909 --> 01:31:54.789
identical, which is impossible for humans to

01:31:54.789 --> 01:31:56.069
do. It's impossible, yeah. You know, different

01:31:56.069 --> 01:31:57.930
venues, different equipment. Even twice, let

01:31:57.930 --> 01:31:59.569
alone three times. Yeah, there's no way they

01:31:59.569 --> 01:32:01.810
could do it that way. So when you go to an Eagles

01:32:01.810 --> 01:32:05.050
concert and spend, you know, $1 ,500 to $2 ,000

01:32:05.050 --> 01:32:07.579
on a ticket. you're hearing a recording. Yeah.

01:32:07.739 --> 01:32:09.779
The people are actually standing out there and

01:32:09.779 --> 01:32:11.460
sitting in front of you live, but all they're

01:32:11.460 --> 01:32:13.520
doing is taking up space while you listen to

01:32:13.520 --> 01:32:15.720
a recording. Yeah. And if that's good enough,

01:32:15.760 --> 01:32:17.960
then, you know, enjoy. Not good enough for me.

01:32:17.960 --> 01:32:20.260
But you should be aware of what's actually happening.

01:32:20.279 --> 01:32:22.159
You're not hearing any live music whatsoever.

01:32:22.220 --> 01:32:25.279
Even the most disciplined, accomplished musician

01:32:25.279 --> 01:32:29.060
cannot do the exact same signature everything

01:32:29.060 --> 01:32:32.739
twice in a row. Yeah. It's impossible physically

01:32:32.739 --> 01:32:37.060
for us to do that. To give an example, I forget

01:32:37.060 --> 01:32:39.000
the drummer's name, but he got hired on with

01:32:39.000 --> 01:32:43.140
Chicago. And in a modern drummer magazine, they

01:32:43.140 --> 01:32:44.880
did an old write -up on him. I think his first

01:32:44.880 --> 01:32:48.380
name began with a T, Trey, Terry, something like

01:32:48.380 --> 01:32:52.239
that. I think any other way. But they were trying

01:32:52.239 --> 01:32:54.859
to give an example of how excellent his timing

01:32:54.859 --> 01:32:59.640
was. And the example they gave was they had a

01:32:59.640 --> 01:33:02.649
recording from a Chicago... concert where he

01:33:02.649 --> 01:33:05.029
was performing you know this certain song like

01:33:05.029 --> 01:33:09.789
25 or 64 and then they went back on the on the

01:33:09.789 --> 01:33:12.829
same tour to a different recording of him performing

01:33:12.829 --> 01:33:16.569
that same song and this is without using a click

01:33:16.569 --> 01:33:20.869
track but his his beat was off by only about

01:33:20.869 --> 01:33:24.829
a tenth of a second Wow. But even as good as

01:33:24.829 --> 01:33:27.210
he was and precise as he was, he couldn't come

01:33:27.210 --> 01:33:29.729
any closer than a tenth of a second. That's still

01:33:29.729 --> 01:33:32.010
amazing if you think about it. Yeah. But you're

01:33:32.010 --> 01:33:34.250
going to tell me Glenn Frey and Don Henley are

01:33:34.250 --> 01:33:37.750
being absolutely dead on perfect, note after

01:33:37.750 --> 01:33:40.289
note, night after night, song after song? Uh

01:33:40.289 --> 01:33:41.989
-huh. They're not that talented. No, they're

01:33:41.989 --> 01:33:44.609
not. And I wouldn't expect them to be. No, no,

01:33:44.609 --> 01:33:46.189
no. They're human beings. Yeah, that wasn't like

01:33:46.189 --> 01:33:49.310
a slight. No, no. They're perfectly talented

01:33:49.310 --> 01:33:51.800
and wonderful musicians. It's just... They're

01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:54.680
not a digital recording. And what you're hearing

01:33:54.680 --> 01:33:58.920
is a digital recording. Yeah. Good point. If

01:33:58.920 --> 01:34:00.899
I'm going to see live acts again, I'm going to

01:34:00.899 --> 01:34:03.699
be damn sure it's actual live musicians playing

01:34:03.699 --> 01:34:07.539
live music and no recordings. Yeah. That's my

01:34:07.539 --> 01:34:09.840
bottom line. Me too. And if I have to miss a

01:34:09.840 --> 01:34:12.460
bunch of acts, okay. Yeah, same here. I don't

01:34:12.460 --> 01:34:14.720
care. Yeah, me too. No, I'm going to miss a bunch

01:34:14.720 --> 01:34:17.279
of acts. I'm fine being picky and missing out.

01:34:17.359 --> 01:34:19.159
And that's the big difference. You and I don't

01:34:19.159 --> 01:34:22.909
have fear of missing out. I see a lot of people

01:34:22.909 --> 01:34:26.569
whose lives are completely ruled by, oh my God,

01:34:26.609 --> 01:34:29.050
I've got to do it first. Or if anyone else is

01:34:29.050 --> 01:34:30.869
doing it, I've got to do it too. The only thing

01:34:30.869 --> 01:34:32.789
I'm missing out on, I feel I'm missing out on,

01:34:32.789 --> 01:34:36.569
is a goat show. No, no, no, a horse show in Mexico.

01:34:37.130 --> 01:34:39.949
No, a donkey show. Donkey show, yeah. That's

01:34:39.949 --> 01:34:41.510
the only thing I'm ever missing out on because

01:34:41.510 --> 01:34:44.390
I'll probably never see one. Yeah, yeah. But

01:34:44.390 --> 01:34:45.890
other than that, I don't really think I'm missing

01:34:45.890 --> 01:34:49.310
out on anything. There was a line in the song.

01:34:52.740 --> 01:34:56.279
I look out the shades of my window, and I see

01:34:56.279 --> 01:34:59.380
a girl on a donkey, but she's riding away, so

01:34:59.380 --> 01:35:05.079
no love today. And I knew exactly what he meant.

01:35:05.300 --> 01:35:09.399
Yes. No, a guy I used to work with, he lived

01:35:09.399 --> 01:35:13.300
in San Diego, and I was in Ensenada, Mexico,

01:35:13.500 --> 01:35:16.159
on a stop on a cruise, and I sent him a couple

01:35:16.159 --> 01:35:19.859
of pictures. And he started sending me directions

01:35:19.859 --> 01:35:23.300
to go to a donkey show. And I'm like, I could

01:35:23.300 --> 01:35:25.859
have went, but I was like, no. No, I don't want

01:35:25.859 --> 01:35:28.520
to go see that. That's all right. There was,

01:35:28.579 --> 01:35:31.220
back in my college days, my brother John was

01:35:31.220 --> 01:35:34.859
a year ahead of me. And one of his friends went

01:35:34.859 --> 01:35:39.079
with him on a walking and hitchhiking tour through

01:35:39.079 --> 01:35:44.720
Central America and South America. and they went

01:35:44.720 --> 01:35:47.680
down to El Paso on the bus and then just walked

01:35:47.680 --> 01:35:51.420
across the border and relied on buses and hitchhiking

01:35:51.420 --> 01:35:54.300
to get around. Wow, that's scary. Yeah, that's

01:35:54.300 --> 01:35:57.659
ballsy. Remember they said they wound up in Belize

01:35:57.659 --> 01:35:59.979
staying on the beach? They kind of lived like

01:35:59.979 --> 01:36:01.960
homeless people. They just went all the way down

01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:04.539
there hitchhiking. Yeah, yeah. Now that is dangerous.

01:36:05.840 --> 01:36:08.380
But he said at one point, I forget which country

01:36:08.380 --> 01:36:10.640
he said, but they were invited to a donkey show,

01:36:10.779 --> 01:36:14.210
and they both went. And they both watched. And

01:36:14.210 --> 01:36:16.210
at the time, he was still drinking. He thought

01:36:16.210 --> 01:36:18.949
it was funny as hell. Now he would probably be

01:36:18.949 --> 01:36:21.649
pretty embarrassed about it. And it's probably

01:36:21.649 --> 01:36:23.729
not something he wants to remember. And you know

01:36:23.729 --> 01:36:25.569
what? And another thing is, even if I wasn't

01:36:25.569 --> 01:36:27.029
with Val, I wouldn't have went and saw it. No.

01:36:27.250 --> 01:36:29.350
That's not something I really want to go see.

01:36:29.529 --> 01:36:34.310
No, no. Yeah, like you, I've learned that you

01:36:34.310 --> 01:36:37.380
see things long after you've seen them. And they

01:36:37.380 --> 01:36:40.539
affect you. I don't want that in my memory banks.

01:36:41.199 --> 01:36:43.680
You're showing up in your dreams. I don't want

01:36:43.680 --> 01:36:46.760
to explain that to God. No. What were you doing

01:36:46.760 --> 01:36:54.159
here, Mark? Okay, where's hell? Give me directions.

01:36:56.180 --> 01:36:58.060
Get on the bus over there with Bill Gates and

01:36:58.060 --> 01:37:01.220
Bill Cosby. Oh, no. Do I have to pick that one?

01:37:01.260 --> 01:37:03.119
Can I pick another one? Oh, there's one with

01:37:03.119 --> 01:37:07.699
Charles Manson. Can I have him? Yeah, sure. There

01:37:07.699 --> 01:37:11.479
was an episode of Two and a Half Men where Charlie

01:37:11.479 --> 01:37:15.939
Sheen had his brother, Emilio Estevez, guest

01:37:15.939 --> 01:37:18.600
star on the show. That's funny. And he played

01:37:18.600 --> 01:37:21.579
the role of one of Charlie's hard -partying buddies

01:37:21.579 --> 01:37:24.460
who died of a heart attack, who came back to

01:37:24.460 --> 01:37:26.479
him during the funeral and was talking to him.

01:37:27.119 --> 01:37:29.159
And he's like, oh, you're here. He said, yeah,

01:37:29.239 --> 01:37:31.319
they let me out of hell for a few minutes so

01:37:31.319 --> 01:37:32.520
I could come up and talk. And he's like, oh,

01:37:32.539 --> 01:37:34.079
you're in hell? He's like, oh, yeah, oh, yeah.

01:37:34.220 --> 01:37:42.220
He had no doubt about it. He was saying, in hell,

01:37:42.460 --> 01:37:47.819
you daily get a pitchfork up the ass. But if

01:37:47.819 --> 01:37:50.279
you don't show up on time for it, you don't get

01:37:50.279 --> 01:37:53.500
the lube. And he said, believe me, you want the

01:37:53.500 --> 01:37:57.779
lube. And then later he said, you know what?

01:37:58.439 --> 01:38:03.819
Spit. The devil's spit is the lube. But he said

01:38:03.819 --> 01:38:05.220
it's still better than not getting it. I bet

01:38:05.220 --> 01:38:07.359
it's hot, too. I bet it's boiling hot. Yeah.

01:38:07.720 --> 01:38:10.359
It's just hilarious as hell seeing Emilio Estevez

01:38:10.359 --> 01:38:12.380
down there. He's like, oh, yeah, I get a pitchfork

01:38:12.380 --> 01:38:14.739
up the ass all the time. He's like, you want

01:38:14.739 --> 01:38:17.420
it with the lube. Let me tell you. Funny, this

01:38:17.420 --> 01:38:19.300
just reminded me of this. The far side. Remember

01:38:19.300 --> 01:38:23.300
that? Gary Larson. One of my favorite ones was

01:38:23.300 --> 01:38:26.750
Graffiti in Hell. It has a picture of Satan is

01:38:26.750 --> 01:38:29.029
a great conversationalist and a really nice guy.

01:38:29.449 --> 01:38:32.710
And I love Satan. He gave my daughter a gift.

01:38:33.069 --> 01:38:35.430
It has a picture of Satan there with his arms

01:38:35.430 --> 01:38:40.149
in his hair going, no, no. He's just greatly

01:38:40.149 --> 01:38:43.029
misunderstood. Yes, and he's like, Satan's down

01:38:43.029 --> 01:38:48.680
there going, no. That's pretty good. It is. Oh,

01:38:48.680 --> 01:38:50.439
speaking of Ensenada, I was going to tell you

01:38:50.439 --> 01:38:52.439
about that. Actually, I think it's Ensenada.

01:38:52.659 --> 01:38:56.720
I call it Ensenada. But anyhow, he said that,

01:38:56.819 --> 01:38:59.619
and also I know another guy that said the same

01:38:59.619 --> 01:39:02.560
thing. Down there at the whorehouses, he used

01:39:02.560 --> 01:39:05.079
to frequent them. He used to go to what he called

01:39:05.079 --> 01:39:08.819
Tijuana. And they used to cross the border, and

01:39:08.819 --> 01:39:10.699
they'd go down there to whorehouses. And he said

01:39:10.699 --> 01:39:14.579
no one would ever use rubbers at all, and no

01:39:14.579 --> 01:39:17.000
one came out with any diseases. And he said,

01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:20.640
He believes it. The reason none of them got diseases

01:39:20.640 --> 01:39:23.039
was is they came out that when you got done,

01:39:23.159 --> 01:39:26.060
you went to the back leaving, and there's this

01:39:26.060 --> 01:39:29.520
bottle of tequila that you dripped all over your

01:39:29.520 --> 01:39:32.279
penis and killed anything that was on it. He

01:39:32.279 --> 01:39:34.640
swore up and down that that worked. He said,

01:39:34.659 --> 01:39:36.920
man, he said, I was there many times and never

01:39:36.920 --> 01:39:39.760
caught anything. My friend was there many times.

01:39:39.779 --> 01:39:42.060
People we brought were there many times, and

01:39:42.060 --> 01:39:45.100
none of them ever caught anything. Do you believe

01:39:45.100 --> 01:39:50.970
that? Yeah, alcohol will very violently suck

01:39:50.970 --> 01:39:53.550
the moisture out of anything. Then that might

01:39:53.550 --> 01:39:55.649
be it. I mean, yeah, it's like sitting there

01:39:55.649 --> 01:39:58.609
thinking and going, is that true? Sometimes doctors

01:39:58.609 --> 01:40:01.689
will shrink a cancerous tumor by injecting alcohol

01:40:01.689 --> 01:40:03.789
directly into it. Yeah, that's a good point.

01:40:03.789 --> 01:40:05.329
And it dries it right up and makes it small.

01:40:05.569 --> 01:40:07.710
Yeah, that's right. Okay. Now it'll plump back

01:40:07.710 --> 01:40:09.810
up again, but while it's small, you can go in

01:40:09.810 --> 01:40:13.590
and take it out. Yes. So it's extremely effective

01:40:13.590 --> 01:40:17.640
at drying things. Then maybe that's true. It

01:40:17.640 --> 01:40:23.560
may be true, yeah. I got a few lists here that

01:40:23.560 --> 01:40:26.340
I thought would be really cool to do. Yeah. Okay,

01:40:26.460 --> 01:40:29.020
this is from the Cambridge, I believe, or maybe

01:40:29.020 --> 01:40:32.260
it was Oxford. One of the, you know, Webster's

01:40:32.260 --> 01:40:34.899
the main one still. Yeah. Oxford, Cambridge,

01:40:35.399 --> 01:40:40.060
then there's other ones like... The urban dictionaries

01:40:40.060 --> 01:40:42.380
online that claim new words and terms all the

01:40:42.380 --> 01:40:44.819
time. For a while there was a New American dictionary.

01:40:44.819 --> 01:40:46.399
Yeah, that's right. And that's the one where

01:40:46.399 --> 01:40:48.319
I got all the ones from that one time that were

01:40:48.319 --> 01:40:52.920
just fucking nuts. Yeah. And then there's another

01:40:52.920 --> 01:40:57.420
fringe group called the New American Urban Library

01:40:57.420 --> 01:41:00.300
of America. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And

01:41:00.300 --> 01:41:02.840
they were so bizarre in some of their stuff.

01:41:03.689 --> 01:41:05.430
They were trying to come up with, they were trying

01:41:05.430 --> 01:41:07.130
to popularize. They weren't saying, oh, this

01:41:07.130 --> 01:41:09.069
one is popular. They were coming up with ones

01:41:09.069 --> 01:41:11.689
and trying to get us to adopt them because they

01:41:11.689 --> 01:41:13.630
already own the copyright on them. Yes, yeah.

01:41:13.850 --> 01:41:16.289
I think they're gone now. I haven't seen them

01:41:16.289 --> 01:41:19.470
in a year and a half or something. Okay, if you're

01:41:19.470 --> 01:41:22.029
dealing with a professionally sedentary colleague,

01:41:22.170 --> 01:41:25.430
it can be frustrating. But a little humor usually

01:41:25.430 --> 01:41:29.270
makes the shift go faster. Depending on your

01:41:29.270 --> 01:41:31.449
office culture and just how relaxed they are,

01:41:31.609 --> 01:41:34.760
here are a few nicknames. Ranging from lightheartedness

01:41:34.760 --> 01:41:37.500
to a little bit more pointed. So these are things

01:41:37.500 --> 01:41:40.560
they say you can use without saying the person

01:41:40.560 --> 01:41:44.020
is a worthless piece of shit. Yeah. All right.

01:41:44.079 --> 01:41:47.439
The first one is the physics group. Physics is

01:41:47.439 --> 01:41:50.720
in quotations. These names focus on absolute

01:41:50.720 --> 01:41:53.899
lack of movement or laws of nature they seem

01:41:53.899 --> 01:41:56.539
to defy. Yeah. That's pretty good. I like that.

01:41:58.220 --> 01:42:00.979
So the physics, that's the physics group. The

01:42:00.979 --> 01:42:06.170
people are just nothing. Static. Because they

01:42:06.170 --> 01:42:09.750
never move. Yeah. That's a good one. I like this

01:42:09.750 --> 01:42:16.029
one. The glazier. They spend all day staring

01:42:16.029 --> 01:42:18.210
through windows or at screens without actually

01:42:18.210 --> 01:42:25.050
touching anything. I love that. How about GeForce?

01:42:26.569 --> 01:42:28.770
They act like they're being pinned to their chair

01:42:28.770 --> 01:42:33.350
by 9 G's of atmospheric pressure. That's good.

01:42:33.510 --> 01:42:36.470
I love it. This next one's even better, and this

01:42:36.470 --> 01:42:39.590
one's easy to identify. The human speed bump.

01:42:39.970 --> 01:42:43.930
Oh. Everyone has to work around them to get the

01:42:43.930 --> 01:42:48.710
job done. Yeah. I love that. The next one is

01:42:48.710 --> 01:42:53.729
the invisibles. I think you know where it's going,

01:42:53.810 --> 01:42:56.680
but I love this one too. For the co -worker is

01:42:56.680 --> 01:42:59.819
a master of the disappearing act. Yeah. The moment

01:42:59.819 --> 01:43:02.520
work appears. Well, I know a lot of them. Yeah.

01:43:02.619 --> 01:43:04.340
They're good at telling you what needs to be

01:43:04.340 --> 01:43:06.079
done, but when it's getting done, they ain't

01:43:06.079 --> 01:43:10.260
nowhere around. Yeah. So, the next one is the

01:43:10.260 --> 01:43:14.979
ghost. Your story's about them, but rarely do

01:43:14.979 --> 01:43:19.720
you actually see them working. Yes. I heard a

01:43:19.720 --> 01:43:22.000
story once that they did some work a long time

01:43:22.000 --> 01:43:26.819
ago. Yeah, but I have no actual proof on video

01:43:26.819 --> 01:43:33.020
or paper of such. The next one is the Caspian.

01:43:34.640 --> 01:43:39.359
Caspian. No, I think it's Caspian. C -A -S -P

01:43:39.359 --> 01:43:42.880
-I -A -N. It's like the Caspian Sea. Yeah, yep.

01:43:43.180 --> 01:43:47.239
As in the prince. Oh, okay. Okay, all right.

01:43:47.550 --> 01:43:49.850
Because they seem to live in a fictional land

01:43:49.850 --> 01:43:53.890
far away from reality. I like that. I like that

01:43:53.890 --> 01:43:56.390
a lot. That might be one of my favorites. The

01:43:56.390 --> 01:43:58.390
name threw me off, though, because I was thinking

01:43:58.390 --> 01:43:59.829
something different, but I never thought about

01:43:59.829 --> 01:44:05.090
the prince. This next one. The Houdini. We all

01:44:05.090 --> 01:44:08.149
know the Houdini. Yeah. They vanish into thin

01:44:08.149 --> 01:44:10.770
air the second a meeting ends or a task is assigned.

01:44:13.949 --> 01:44:19.300
And... That's it, I guess, of these. That's all

01:44:19.300 --> 01:44:23.300
the new terms that... I came up with my own.

01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:27.300
I think it was Cambridge. How about Disneylander?

01:44:27.800 --> 01:44:30.939
Oh, yeah. That's the people who think that they're

01:44:30.939 --> 01:44:33.140
entitled to endless fun and entertainment at

01:44:33.140 --> 01:44:38.680
work. Yes. The Disneylander. Yep. Well, I'm here

01:44:38.680 --> 01:44:42.199
at work. Don't I get to play and enjoy myself

01:44:42.199 --> 01:44:44.800
and have fun? Well, no, you're supposed to do

01:44:44.800 --> 01:44:49.239
the work. You're such an asshole. I'm thinking

01:44:49.239 --> 01:44:51.899
about making a bid out of this. Yeah. Okay. But

01:44:51.899 --> 01:44:53.899
I like the Disneylander. I worked with a lot

01:44:53.899 --> 01:44:57.500
of Disneylanders at the post office. I like that

01:44:57.500 --> 01:45:01.060
a lot. The Disneylander. Expect entertainment.

01:45:03.560 --> 01:45:08.220
And fun. There was a guy I remember carrying

01:45:08.220 --> 01:45:13.750
mail with that was extremely slow. Uh -huh. I

01:45:13.750 --> 01:45:16.310
remember he and I got along so I could make jokes

01:45:16.310 --> 01:45:18.670
about him. He didn't get his feelings hurt. But

01:45:18.670 --> 01:45:21.670
the joke I came because he was super slow on

01:45:21.670 --> 01:45:25.350
the route. And I made the joke that people on

01:45:25.350 --> 01:45:28.029
this route were calling in and saying, Hey, how

01:45:28.029 --> 01:45:30.270
come you've made a statue to the mailman out

01:45:30.270 --> 01:45:32.609
here in our neighborhood? And then they called

01:45:32.609 --> 01:45:34.069
back five minutes later and said, Never mind,

01:45:34.090 --> 01:45:42.109
it's not a statue. He's moving. Oh, I love that.

01:45:42.810 --> 01:45:45.949
I remember telling that at work while he was

01:45:45.949 --> 01:45:52.289
there, and he laughed. That is funny when you

01:45:52.289 --> 01:45:54.529
make the culprit laugh. Yeah. The subject laugh.

01:45:54.970 --> 01:46:00.430
Okay. You got something? Well, I couldn't find

01:46:00.430 --> 01:46:05.050
my other list. I had singers that I think should

01:46:05.050 --> 01:46:08.590
retire, and I had bands that should retire. Okay.

01:46:08.770 --> 01:46:11.210
But I can't remember which one of them I already

01:46:11.210 --> 01:46:18.500
read. I think it was bands that should retire

01:46:18.500 --> 01:46:23.239
we did. Oh yeah, here's the one I don't have

01:46:23.239 --> 01:46:30.720
crossed off. Singers who need to retire before

01:46:30.720 --> 01:46:33.939
they die on stage. Yeah, that's it. I love it.

01:46:34.020 --> 01:46:38.880
I think I might have done that. I've got a lesser

01:46:38.880 --> 01:46:42.020
known one and that's Jack Russell. Or did he

01:46:42.020 --> 01:46:46.989
die? I think he might have died, actually. Let's

01:46:46.989 --> 01:46:49.010
see, I did the one about bands that need to stop,

01:46:49.109 --> 01:46:55.590
and I did female singers for crapping out, overlooked

01:46:55.590 --> 01:47:00.109
drummers. Did we do overlooked drummers and overlooked

01:47:00.109 --> 01:47:05.350
singers? So, I don't know, if I'm repeating myself

01:47:05.350 --> 01:47:08.090
on these bands, I'm sorry, but I didn't cross

01:47:08.090 --> 01:47:11.619
it off, so I think I didn't do it. these were

01:47:11.619 --> 01:47:14.060
singers individual singers instead of bands that

01:47:14.060 --> 01:47:19.180
uh he did die 2024. okay okay so these are singers

01:47:19.180 --> 01:47:25.659
that pretty much have uh um it's it's a risk

01:47:25.659 --> 01:47:27.760
each time they go on stage they might just die

01:47:27.760 --> 01:47:30.439
right there on stage so well it's one david lee

01:47:30.439 --> 01:47:35.939
roth i don't think so i guess he doesn't look

01:47:35.939 --> 01:47:38.569
so close to death's door. These are people who

01:47:38.569 --> 01:47:40.670
just look like they're on death's door. You know,

01:47:40.750 --> 01:47:43.430
okay, to be fair, no, he doesn't look like he's

01:47:43.430 --> 01:47:45.189
about ready to die. He just looks like he's nuts.

01:47:45.369 --> 01:47:48.170
Yeah. Okay. But these are singers who actually

01:47:48.170 --> 01:47:51.289
look physically ill and you actually get concerned

01:47:51.289 --> 01:47:53.130
that they're going to die in front of the microphone.

01:47:53.329 --> 01:47:56.970
Rod Stewart's one. The guy looks so frail. Oh

01:47:56.970 --> 01:48:01.560
my gosh. Frankie Valli. From the Valley of the

01:48:01.560 --> 01:48:03.220
Four Seasons. You said something about him last

01:48:03.220 --> 01:48:05.640
episode. I looked him up, and oh my gosh. Oh,

01:48:05.640 --> 01:48:07.739
that is just heartbreaking to see what he's reduced

01:48:07.739 --> 01:48:12.079
to. It is. It's not right. It's hurting. I mean,

01:48:12.180 --> 01:48:15.479
he was so good and prominent, and now you see

01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:17.800
that, and it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah. Yeah,

01:48:17.800 --> 01:48:21.720
anyhow. It reminded me of, locally we had a radio

01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:25.119
guy named Walt Bodine. Yes. Who was just a fixture

01:48:25.119 --> 01:48:30.069
here on radio for... KCUR had them on way too

01:48:30.069 --> 01:48:33.069
long. Yeah, that's the public radio station here

01:48:33.069 --> 01:48:37.369
in town. And they're called KCUR because it's

01:48:37.369 --> 01:48:41.350
the University of Missouri -Kansas City. Radio.

01:48:41.590 --> 01:48:45.409
Yeah, it's the radio station for them. But Walt

01:48:45.409 --> 01:48:47.970
Bodine had kind of a general public interest

01:48:47.970 --> 01:48:50.210
kind of show. Occasionally it would be a show

01:48:50.210 --> 01:48:53.130
about movies, sometimes about restaurants, other

01:48:53.130 --> 01:48:56.820
times about current events, just whatever. And

01:48:56.820 --> 01:49:00.319
the guy started losing his memory and couldn't

01:49:00.319 --> 01:49:02.319
stay on track. He was getting really, really

01:49:02.319 --> 01:49:06.079
focused and stammering a lot on air. So they

01:49:06.079 --> 01:49:10.960
gave him a co -host. And she pretty much ran

01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:13.140
the show. She introduced it. She introduced the

01:49:13.140 --> 01:49:15.039
guests. She introduced me to Topic of the Month.

01:49:15.199 --> 01:49:17.619
And every now and then Walt would chime in with

01:49:17.619 --> 01:49:21.479
something. And more often than not, he was about

01:49:21.479 --> 01:49:24.619
30 to 45 seconds behind on the conversation.

01:49:24.859 --> 01:49:26.319
It's something they already talked about, moved

01:49:26.319 --> 01:49:29.260
past. And then he finally gets her, oh, oh, oh,

01:49:29.260 --> 01:49:32.119
yeah, well, uh, uh, uh. And they would listen

01:49:32.119 --> 01:49:34.659
and talk, and then they just, nobody would say

01:49:34.659 --> 01:49:37.930
anything, and then they'd just go on. And in

01:49:37.930 --> 01:49:40.989
order to make money off of him, the radio station

01:49:40.989 --> 01:49:43.329
kept putting him on. I mean, his mind was gone.

01:49:43.449 --> 01:49:46.909
His concentration was gone. How about his lip

01:49:46.909 --> 01:49:51.149
-smacking and gum -smacking? Yeah, it was...

01:49:51.149 --> 01:49:54.810
Listen, I love Walt Bodine like everybody else,

01:49:55.029 --> 01:49:59.020
but... That was making a mockery of him. Oh,

01:49:59.020 --> 01:50:01.279
yeah. They destroyed his image and his legacy.

01:50:01.520 --> 01:50:04.079
They just dragged this. It's like dragging the

01:50:04.079 --> 01:50:06.539
corpse of somebody up on stage and doing Weekend

01:50:06.539 --> 01:50:08.479
at Bernie's kind of thing. Oh, look, they're

01:50:08.479 --> 01:50:10.939
still here. They're still vital. Meanwhile, maggots

01:50:10.939 --> 01:50:12.979
are dropping out of them. Yeah. That's what they

01:50:12.979 --> 01:50:15.220
did to Walt Bodine is they were biting him and

01:50:15.220 --> 01:50:19.020
using this poor, confused, fragile old man. Oh,

01:50:19.020 --> 01:50:21.720
I know. And like you said, they brought the chick

01:50:21.720 --> 01:50:25.319
on there. And all it did was accentuate how slow

01:50:25.319 --> 01:50:29.180
he was because of age. I mean, you know. And

01:50:29.180 --> 01:50:31.300
then every episode they would have the planted

01:50:31.300 --> 01:50:34.159
calls where they would tell someone, call in

01:50:34.159 --> 01:50:36.789
and compliment Walt. Tell him, oh, it's so great

01:50:36.789 --> 01:50:39.090
you're on the radio. I just love all you've done

01:50:39.090 --> 01:50:42.310
for Kansas City. So they're trying to talk him

01:50:42.310 --> 01:50:44.810
up for the new listeners who are thinking, who

01:50:44.810 --> 01:50:46.689
the hell is this guy mumbling in the background?

01:50:47.149 --> 01:50:49.770
Anyone I knew that even dared to turn it on and

01:50:49.770 --> 01:50:52.010
had the same reaction, like, I can't listen to

01:50:52.010 --> 01:50:56.350
this. No. It's horrible. It's sad. Yeah. It was

01:50:56.350 --> 01:50:58.670
not something to go, man, this guy was so cool.

01:50:58.729 --> 01:51:01.130
It's like, oh, my gosh, they need to quit this.

01:51:01.390 --> 01:51:03.869
All it's doing is just hurting him from here

01:51:03.869 --> 01:51:06.619
on out. If you've ever seen those nature shows...

01:51:06.619 --> 01:51:08.460
He's since passed away in case anyone didn't

01:51:08.460 --> 01:51:11.060
know. Have you ever seen those nature shows where

01:51:11.060 --> 01:51:15.399
they're showing the last baby duckling who gets

01:51:15.399 --> 01:51:18.439
left behind and there's no one to care for him

01:51:18.439 --> 01:51:21.260
and he gets sicker and sicker and slows down

01:51:21.260 --> 01:51:23.899
and eventually just dies. And it's really, really

01:51:23.899 --> 01:51:26.920
sad. And the cameraman's just there filming the

01:51:26.920 --> 01:51:29.319
whole thing and not helping. That's what Walt

01:51:29.319 --> 01:51:32.159
Bodine, he was the wounded, dying duckling. And

01:51:32.159 --> 01:51:34.199
everyone was standing around making money off

01:51:34.199 --> 01:51:36.380
him for as long as they could. And then they

01:51:36.380 --> 01:51:39.239
just let him die this painful, slow, unhappy

01:51:39.239 --> 01:51:43.739
career death. And then when they were done making

01:51:43.739 --> 01:51:46.300
money off him, they kicked him to the side. Yeah,

01:51:46.300 --> 01:51:49.699
very sad. It was one of the big things early

01:51:49.699 --> 01:51:52.329
on that made me think. This radio station is

01:51:52.329 --> 01:51:54.390
awful. I've never liked them. These are horrible

01:51:54.390 --> 01:51:58.590
people. I've never liked them. Yeah. Anyhow.

01:51:58.729 --> 01:52:02.069
And then they had that, what was it, Prairie

01:52:02.069 --> 01:52:04.310
Home Companion, remember that, with Garrison

01:52:04.310 --> 01:52:07.050
Keillor? Yes, yeah. And he was the guy who kept,

01:52:07.270 --> 01:52:10.770
he'd build up a whole nose full of nose hairs

01:52:10.770 --> 01:52:13.029
and snot, and then he'd whistle in the microphone

01:52:13.029 --> 01:52:17.510
the whole time. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And

01:52:17.510 --> 01:52:21.189
we're going to do the next bit. That was how

01:52:21.189 --> 01:52:24.569
it sounded the whole time. That was really close.

01:52:24.909 --> 01:52:27.130
Yeah, wasn't it? That was about what he sounded

01:52:27.130 --> 01:52:31.770
like. And thank God he got busted for being a

01:52:31.770 --> 01:52:34.770
sexual predator at work. I mean, not thank God

01:52:34.770 --> 01:52:36.850
he was one. Thank God he got busted for being

01:52:36.850 --> 01:52:40.109
one. And that drove his ass and his stupid bullshit

01:52:40.109 --> 01:52:45.680
show off the air. I don't know whose fucking

01:52:45.680 --> 01:52:48.039
D he was on, but it was something to even me

01:52:48.039 --> 01:52:55.500
on the air. You got anything? Kind of taffy.

01:52:55.579 --> 01:52:58.079
Okay, I've got Uber Eats released their most

01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:02.800
expensive orders of last year. Want to hear any

01:53:02.800 --> 01:53:08.420
of them? Absolutely. All right. Uber Eats released

01:53:08.420 --> 01:53:10.479
their most expensive orders of all time. Oh,

01:53:10.479 --> 01:53:13.260
all time. Okay, I'm sorry. And some of the strangest

01:53:13.260 --> 01:53:15.579
orders as well. Some both. They're most expensive

01:53:15.579 --> 01:53:19.840
and strangest. Cool. Someone spent $6 ,000 on

01:53:19.840 --> 01:53:22.819
burgers and fries. That's a lot of burgers and

01:53:22.819 --> 01:53:24.560
fries. That's a lot of burgers and fries. On

01:53:24.560 --> 01:53:27.479
Uber Eats, according to Uber. The most expensive

01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:30.319
order ever made in Canada was in Toronto when

01:53:30.319 --> 01:53:32.760
someone spent more than $6 ,000 in burgers and

01:53:32.760 --> 01:53:36.140
fries. In second place was a hungry customer

01:53:36.140 --> 01:53:39.800
from Edmonton who purchased $5 ,500 in fried

01:53:39.800 --> 01:53:43.220
chicken. Whoa. How do you eat that much at once?

01:53:43.239 --> 01:53:45.899
Because fried chicken notoriously goes bad and,

01:53:45.939 --> 01:53:48.760
like, you know. Yeah. I mean, you'd have to freeze

01:53:48.760 --> 01:53:51.439
it or feed a whole bunch of people. Yeah, I guess.

01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:53.060
Maybe they had a big party. I don't know why

01:53:53.060 --> 01:53:56.380
else you could order all of that and have it

01:53:56.380 --> 01:54:00.739
all be good. Followed by a user in Ottawa, and

01:54:00.739 --> 01:54:02.880
it says here in Brits, he's probably a government

01:54:02.880 --> 01:54:06.720
employee billed taxpayers for $3 ,000 in noodles.

01:54:07.479 --> 01:54:10.520
Oh. That's a lot of noodles. Noodles are cheap,

01:54:10.640 --> 01:54:12.640
so yeah, that's a lot of noodles. Yeah, but I

01:54:12.640 --> 01:54:15.640
bet you it was the new designer noodles. The

01:54:15.640 --> 01:54:18.579
gourmet noodles, they were very expensive. Oh,

01:54:18.640 --> 01:54:22.600
true. There was one over on 119th. Noodle & Company?

01:54:22.760 --> 01:54:26.199
Yeah, Noodle & Company. They're having a lot

01:54:26.199 --> 01:54:29.920
of financial trouble because it's really super

01:54:29.920 --> 01:54:32.180
cheap to buy noodles, but then to cook them and

01:54:32.180 --> 01:54:35.680
serve them is pretty expensive. And the margin,

01:54:35.819 --> 01:54:38.100
the profit margin on a big bowl of noodles and

01:54:38.100 --> 01:54:41.859
stuff, selling at about $9 or so, they make about

01:54:41.859 --> 01:54:46.460
nothing. Yeah. And when it all comes down to

01:54:46.460 --> 01:54:49.319
it, you're selling a giant bowl of carbs with

01:54:49.319 --> 01:54:51.500
some toppings on it. And a lot of people are

01:54:51.500 --> 01:54:53.460
starting to realize this is a big -ass bowl of

01:54:53.460 --> 01:54:55.460
carbs and I don't want it. I used to always have

01:54:55.460 --> 01:54:57.979
people tell me, oh, try noodles. I'm like, no,

01:54:58.079 --> 01:54:59.699
that's one of the worst things you can eat. Yeah.

01:54:59.939 --> 01:55:02.569
Yeah. Yeah. It's like eating white bread. The

01:55:02.569 --> 01:55:04.390
Gourmet Noodle Company. It's not Noodle & Company.

01:55:04.489 --> 01:55:05.970
It's something else, but hang on. Let me take

01:55:05.970 --> 01:55:13.489
a look here. Gourmet Noodle Company, 119th. It's

01:55:13.489 --> 01:55:16.909
the Noodle Express. Oh, it is Noodles & Company.

01:55:17.050 --> 01:55:19.189
Noodle & Company, okay. Okay. I thought there

01:55:19.189 --> 01:55:21.329
was a different one, like KC Noodle. There might

01:55:21.329 --> 01:55:23.210
be. I think I'm getting across. I've seen some

01:55:23.210 --> 01:55:26.210
other noodle shops, yeah. Okay, wow. All right.

01:55:28.710 --> 01:55:31.390
Okay, so in second place was a hungry customer

01:55:31.390 --> 01:55:33.850
in Edmonton who purchased 5 ,000... Oh, no, no,

01:55:33.890 --> 01:55:36.689
I got that one already. Someone in Vancouver

01:55:36.689 --> 01:55:41.050
purchased a whopping 2 ,500 in sushi. That had

01:55:41.050 --> 01:55:43.130
to have been a lot of people right there ready

01:55:43.130 --> 01:55:45.350
to eat it. Yeah, that goes bad in a hurry. Yeah.

01:55:49.949 --> 01:55:52.970
And also, it's not clear whether they paid a

01:55:52.970 --> 01:55:57.270
delivery fee, a massive delivery fee, or... a

01:55:57.270 --> 01:55:59.390
fee when they bought it through the gourmet grocer.

01:55:59.829 --> 01:56:01.909
So I don't know, that would be a lot of work.

01:56:02.029 --> 01:56:03.649
You don't think that they would just order that

01:56:03.649 --> 01:56:06.529
and go, okay, whatever you tip the guys, whatever.

01:56:06.649 --> 01:56:08.489
No, there would have to be a fee involved in

01:56:08.489 --> 01:56:09.829
all of those other things. You'd have to have

01:56:09.829 --> 01:56:11.729
a truck delivering that. I mean, just a regular

01:56:11.729 --> 01:56:14.750
car, you'd have to make nine trips. Yeah. It

01:56:14.750 --> 01:56:17.449
just doesn't seem feasible. They would have to

01:56:17.449 --> 01:56:19.729
have like a fleet go out or rent a truck and

01:56:19.729 --> 01:56:21.579
then charge it to them. But, you know, if you

01:56:21.579 --> 01:56:23.220
call a restaurant and order several thousand

01:56:23.220 --> 01:56:24.560
dollars worth of food, they're going to figure

01:56:24.560 --> 01:56:26.060
out a way to get it to you. Yes, they will, and

01:56:26.060 --> 01:56:27.479
I'm sure they do. They will figure it out. They

01:56:27.479 --> 01:56:29.220
probably talk with the person about it and go,

01:56:29.260 --> 01:56:30.720
well, we're going to have to rent a truck and

01:56:30.720 --> 01:56:32.600
do this, and that's going to cost this and this

01:56:32.600 --> 01:56:35.100
and this. A fleet of Ubers. Yeah, a fleet of

01:56:35.100 --> 01:56:39.159
Ubers or something. So, this is the strangest

01:56:39.159 --> 01:56:43.220
items ordered of all time. Uber says customer

01:56:43.220 --> 01:56:47.800
ordered a Space Cowgirl Halloween costume. Oh,

01:56:47.800 --> 01:56:51.189
God. That one's pretty good. I've heard of Space

01:56:51.189 --> 01:56:53.750
Cowboy. Yeah, I never heard of Cowgirl, but I

01:56:53.750 --> 01:56:56.970
guess there is one. Now in the video game Fallout,

01:56:57.250 --> 01:56:59.970
Fallout 4, which has gotten really popular again

01:56:59.970 --> 01:57:03.210
from the Fallout TV show. Oh, yeah. There is

01:57:03.210 --> 01:57:08.689
Nuka World Girl. Yeah, yeah. Where she's got

01:57:08.689 --> 01:57:16.460
this skin -tight version of a space outfit. It's

01:57:16.460 --> 01:57:19.159
showing off all of her curves. Of course. She's

01:57:19.159 --> 01:57:24.579
advertising the cola. Within the game, it's not

01:57:24.579 --> 01:57:27.239
Coca -Cola. It's Nuka -Cola. Nuka -Cola. But

01:57:27.239 --> 01:57:28.819
it's absolutely based on Coca -Cola. Is it in

01:57:28.819 --> 01:57:31.840
cursive and all that? Yeah. The bottles are almost

01:57:31.840 --> 01:57:35.060
the same. The founder was a guy named Brad Burton,

01:57:35.199 --> 01:57:38.640
which is really close to the guy who founded

01:57:38.640 --> 01:57:43.170
Coke. So that's their little nudge there. But,

01:57:43.250 --> 01:57:46.090
yeah, the Nuka World girl had an outfit. Now,

01:57:46.090 --> 01:57:49.590
you can actually find one in the game on a mannequin

01:57:49.590 --> 01:57:52.369
and put it on. Oh, wow. Yeah, it's pretty cool.

01:57:52.630 --> 01:57:58.989
That is really cool. Okay, the next one. Someone

01:57:58.989 --> 01:58:02.689
bought a, let's see, where is it? Okay, they

01:58:02.689 --> 01:58:06.289
bought a Merry and Bright Christmas dog collar.

01:58:08.750 --> 01:58:11.430
I guess you had to take that Christmas photo

01:58:11.430 --> 01:58:12.989
from the last minute you needed a dog collar.

01:58:12.989 --> 01:58:15.409
I guess so, yeah. They're making out the Christmas

01:58:15.409 --> 01:58:17.829
cards. They're like, where's that one car? I

01:58:17.829 --> 01:58:20.010
don't know. We had it last year. We've got to

01:58:20.010 --> 01:58:22.189
have one this year. We've got to mail them out

01:58:22.189 --> 01:58:28.369
today. Uber Eats one. All right, followed was

01:58:28.369 --> 01:58:34.090
a disco ball pickleball set. Oh. A disco ball

01:58:34.090 --> 01:58:37.329
pickleball set. Who needs that last minute? I

01:58:37.329 --> 01:58:39.760
don't know. They were really fucking bored, I

01:58:39.760 --> 01:58:42.659
guess. Yeah. And it had to be a disco ball pickleball

01:58:42.659 --> 01:58:44.899
set. Pickleball set, yeah. Either that or someone

01:58:44.899 --> 01:58:47.420
gave them a really cool present, and they're

01:58:47.420 --> 01:58:50.340
like, how am I going to top this? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

01:58:51.199 --> 01:58:53.619
Yeah. That might be it. Or you get a corn bag

01:58:53.619 --> 01:58:56.539
set where the bags are actually made from scrotum

01:58:56.539 --> 01:59:00.539
skin. Yeah. That would be my favorite right there.

01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:04.119
And then you put a little ring of hair around

01:59:04.119 --> 01:59:09.159
the hole. Little description. Here. Right here.

01:59:10.399 --> 01:59:12.460
Rub a little stink on it so you know where it

01:59:12.460 --> 01:59:22.079
is. Yes. Alright. Followed by a monogram dragon

01:59:22.079 --> 01:59:26.579
ornament and that is pretty much it. It reminded

01:59:26.579 --> 01:59:30.899
me of my first job was at Wendy's. A location

01:59:30.899 --> 01:59:33.140
that doesn't exist anymore on Blue Ridge Boulevard.

01:59:33.819 --> 01:59:38.359
Where at? A little north of 95th Street. It's

01:59:38.359 --> 01:59:40.060
like you're at 95th and Blue Ridge, and you go

01:59:40.060 --> 01:59:41.680
north on Blue Ridge, and it just starts to curve.

01:59:42.199 --> 01:59:45.180
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then just up the street

01:59:45.180 --> 01:59:47.180
was a Baskin -Robbins. A little further up the

01:59:47.180 --> 01:59:50.720
street was a Big Boy. Yeah. Or was it a High

01:59:50.720 --> 01:59:52.760
Boy? High Boy. It was a High Boy. Yeah, a High

01:59:52.760 --> 01:59:55.460
Boy. And then across the street was a Clark gas

01:59:55.460 --> 01:59:57.420
station. I worked at all of them. Clark, yeah.

01:59:57.680 --> 01:59:59.039
Because they were all within walking distance

01:59:59.039 --> 02:00:03.039
of home. Wow, yeah. But I worked at the Wendy's.

02:00:05.319 --> 02:00:07.939
I was doing the drink counter over at the drive

02:00:07.939 --> 02:00:12.399
-up window. And this truck came around. We could

02:00:12.399 --> 02:00:15.479
hear the truck through the speaker. And the first

02:00:15.479 --> 02:00:18.699
guy ordered three triple cheese with everything.

02:00:19.779 --> 02:00:24.039
Two orders of fries and a large Coke. And the

02:00:24.039 --> 02:00:28.119
second guy ordered the same thing. And we were

02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:31.619
like, three triple cheese each? And two orders

02:00:31.619 --> 02:00:34.100
of fries? How many people are they feeding? They

02:00:34.100 --> 02:00:36.039
pulled up to the window, and it was just the

02:00:36.039 --> 02:00:40.479
two guys, each weighing about 400 pounds. There's

02:00:40.479 --> 02:00:43.399
your explanation. They could barely fit into

02:00:43.399 --> 02:00:46.359
the front bench seat of their full -size pickup.

02:00:46.699 --> 02:00:49.039
They barely could fit in squeezing together.

02:00:49.340 --> 02:00:51.479
And you could tell they were brothers. They looked

02:00:51.479 --> 02:00:53.720
like twins. Well, I mean, you know what? They

02:00:53.720 --> 02:00:55.600
deserved it. They're on their last year of life.

02:00:55.720 --> 02:00:58.579
Probably so. Yes, they deserved it. Yeah. But

02:00:58.579 --> 02:01:02.260
pretty much everybody. in the restaurant was

02:01:02.260 --> 02:01:05.680
going oh my god what did we just do are those

02:01:05.680 --> 02:01:08.239
guys are gonna die eating all that stuff because

02:01:08.239 --> 02:01:10.899
everyone was like actually fearing how big these

02:01:10.899 --> 02:01:13.500
guys were we're gonna go eat all this food and

02:01:13.500 --> 02:01:15.840
die and i was thinking they've obviously been

02:01:15.840 --> 02:01:17.220
eating this way for a while that's what it's

02:01:17.220 --> 02:01:18.680
getting ready to say it's dropping the bucket

02:01:18.680 --> 02:01:20.460
just another day they probably went home and

02:01:20.460 --> 02:01:22.680
did the same thing yeah it's like hey where's

02:01:22.680 --> 02:01:25.100
those 10 pizzas we bought yesterday yeah well

02:01:25.100 --> 02:01:27.640
i ate three of them last night but uh yeah number

02:01:27.640 --> 02:01:31.619
one other kite what a guy Came back through the

02:01:31.619 --> 02:01:33.899
drive -thru and I said, I ordered my hamburger

02:01:33.899 --> 02:01:36.659
with extra mustard and I didn't get nearly enough

02:01:36.659 --> 02:01:39.720
mustard. And the manager was there and said,

02:01:39.779 --> 02:01:41.359
all right, no problem. We're going to make you

02:01:41.359 --> 02:01:45.420
a whole new sandwich. And the guy running the

02:01:45.420 --> 02:01:49.159
grill was pissed off by that. And he said, you

02:01:49.159 --> 02:01:51.020
know, I didn't do it right. He thinks I didn't

02:01:51.020 --> 02:01:53.560
do it right. So he put like a cup of mustard

02:01:53.560 --> 02:01:56.680
on this guy's hamburger. And it was just dripping

02:01:56.680 --> 02:01:58.199
and running everywhere. And the manager said,

02:01:58.380 --> 02:02:04.500
no, no. Make him a new one. I think I would have

02:02:04.500 --> 02:02:06.239
done the same thing. All right, you want extra

02:02:06.239 --> 02:02:09.880
mustard. You got extra mustard. I mean, part

02:02:09.880 --> 02:02:11.720
of me was like, that's funny. I want to see it

02:02:11.720 --> 02:02:13.960
happen. But the other part was like, that mustard's

02:02:13.960 --> 02:02:16.439
going to drip all over the guy, and then all

02:02:16.439 --> 02:02:18.899
hell's going to break loose. I was thinking a

02:02:18.899 --> 02:02:22.359
mustard squirt gun. And when he complained, I

02:02:22.359 --> 02:02:25.680
just, here's some more mustard. Here, open up

02:02:25.680 --> 02:02:27.880
your bun. Oh, shit, I got your face. I'm sorry.

02:02:29.640 --> 02:02:33.199
Remember that Christmas cartoon, Rudolph the

02:02:33.199 --> 02:02:35.420
Red -Nosed Reindeer? Yeah. And his island of

02:02:35.420 --> 02:02:39.159
misfit toys? Yes. And on that island was a water

02:02:39.159 --> 02:02:41.680
gun that doesn't shoot water. It shoots strawberry

02:02:41.680 --> 02:02:46.319
jam. Okay. Somebody finally made the point that

02:02:46.319 --> 02:02:49.220
we were all thinking. They said, if you don't

02:02:49.220 --> 02:02:51.140
want a squirt gun that shoots strawberry jam...

02:02:51.369 --> 02:02:53.430
Quit fucking putting strawberry jam in it and

02:02:53.430 --> 02:02:56.210
put water in it. Yes. There's nothing wrong with

02:02:56.210 --> 02:02:58.510
the squirt gun. It's the moron putting strawberry

02:02:58.510 --> 02:03:02.130
jam into it. It's not a misfit toy. It's a misfit

02:03:02.130 --> 02:03:04.989
human. Remember when the gag going around the

02:03:04.989 --> 02:03:07.489
chocolate syrup in there? Yes. And you go over

02:03:07.489 --> 02:03:09.390
and go, you're acting like you're squirting water,

02:03:09.609 --> 02:03:11.489
and that's a ha -ha. But then you get chocolate

02:03:11.489 --> 02:03:13.350
syrup all over you, and that's not a ha -ha.

02:03:13.350 --> 02:03:17.229
That's not a ha -ha. Oh, shit. The things we

02:03:17.229 --> 02:03:19.210
did because we were bored. Yeah. How long have

02:03:19.210 --> 02:03:23.390
we got? Oh. We just passed the Sports Bastards

02:03:23.390 --> 02:03:26.710
one in two hours. Okay. Do you want to keep going

02:03:26.710 --> 02:03:28.189
or do you want to go ahead and shut it down?

02:03:29.109 --> 02:03:32.250
One other thing I thought of to mention. Yeah.

02:03:32.310 --> 02:03:34.229
I was thinking about this this morning for some

02:03:34.229 --> 02:03:36.449
weird reason. It just made me think about be

02:03:36.449 --> 02:03:39.170
careful what you tell people or what you make

02:03:39.170 --> 02:03:43.930
them believe. This was back when I was 8, 9,

02:03:43.970 --> 02:03:49.020
10, somewhere around there. My dad got the four

02:03:49.020 --> 02:03:51.920
of us, my two brothers and sister and I, and

02:03:51.920 --> 02:03:53.920
we all went down to the basement, which had a

02:03:53.920 --> 02:03:55.920
tile floor. Actually, it was an asbestos tile

02:03:55.920 --> 02:03:58.460
floor, we later learned. And he said, you know,

02:03:58.619 --> 02:04:00.619
we need to clean up this floor. So he mixed up

02:04:00.619 --> 02:04:03.600
a big bucket of sudsy water, and we all had sponges

02:04:03.600 --> 02:04:05.779
and brushes and rags, and we were all just cleaning

02:04:05.779 --> 02:04:09.260
and cleaning. And someone asked him, you know,

02:04:09.279 --> 02:04:11.420
what's in here? And my dad said, oh, a little

02:04:11.420 --> 02:04:14.260
this, a little that, just, you know, to be flip.

02:04:15.300 --> 02:04:17.720
But I believed him. Because I was a little kid.

02:04:18.460 --> 02:04:21.039
And then the water ran out and it was time to

02:04:21.039 --> 02:04:23.460
make a new bucket. And I volunteered. I was like,

02:04:23.520 --> 02:04:26.680
I'll go fill it up. So I went upstairs. I put

02:04:26.680 --> 02:04:28.739
a bunch of hot water in it. And then I got under

02:04:28.739 --> 02:04:31.060
the sink and put a little bit of everything that

02:04:31.060 --> 02:04:35.880
said cleaner on it into that bucket. And I took

02:04:35.880 --> 02:04:37.920
it back downstairs and we all started using it.

02:04:37.960 --> 02:04:39.680
We all noticed, you know what? Our eyes are all

02:04:39.680 --> 02:04:42.779
burning. My throat's burning too. And oh my God,

02:04:42.800 --> 02:04:44.880
my hands are burning and turning red. And finally

02:04:44.880 --> 02:04:48.140
my dad asked, What did you put in this? And I

02:04:48.140 --> 02:04:49.779
said, just like you, a little bit of everything

02:04:49.779 --> 02:04:53.840
under the sink. Now, what I'd put in there, in

02:04:53.840 --> 02:04:55.500
addition to all sorts of other things, because

02:04:55.500 --> 02:04:58.500
that's what he said he put under there. He said

02:04:58.500 --> 02:05:01.060
a little bit of everything. You were a kid. You

02:05:01.060 --> 02:05:03.960
were taking it for real. And fortunately, I didn't

02:05:03.960 --> 02:05:06.340
get in trouble about it because he realized,

02:05:06.579 --> 02:05:12.539
okay, I misled him. But the odd thing is I put

02:05:12.539 --> 02:05:16.600
in both ammonia and bleach. Oh. Which makes chlorine

02:05:16.600 --> 02:05:20.439
gas. Yes. Which is fatal. Yes. That was one of

02:05:20.439 --> 02:05:22.640
the poison gases they used in World War I. Yeah.

02:05:23.039 --> 02:05:27.039
And I made chlorine gas. You're lucky you're

02:05:27.039 --> 02:05:29.739
not all dead. I know. We had to air out that

02:05:29.739 --> 02:05:32.380
basement and dump all that water out. We all

02:05:32.380 --> 02:05:35.840
were soaking our hands in baking sodas. We all

02:05:35.840 --> 02:05:39.399
had red hands for a couple of days. That was

02:05:39.399 --> 02:05:41.180
the last time they asked me to go mix up the

02:05:41.180 --> 02:05:42.720
mop water. That's a great way to get out of it.

02:05:44.090 --> 02:05:49.029
So I almost killed the whole family. Oops. Sorry.

02:05:50.289 --> 02:05:52.689
Didn't mean to. I was lied to about what was

02:05:52.689 --> 02:05:54.390
in the... Well, I mean, it would have been nice

02:05:54.390 --> 02:05:56.949
if you were the only survivor. Oh, yeah, yeah,

02:05:57.029 --> 02:06:01.489
yeah. No, I mean, even though they're dickheads

02:06:01.489 --> 02:06:04.250
to you, they don't want them dead. No, no, no.

02:06:04.289 --> 02:06:06.229
They just want them to live without you, to stay

02:06:06.229 --> 02:06:08.109
somewhere else. They get to do whatever they

02:06:08.109 --> 02:06:10.350
want, live their own lives just far away from

02:06:10.350 --> 02:06:11.909
me. Yeah, that's like my sister. As long as they

02:06:11.909 --> 02:06:14.189
don't involve me, they can do whatever the hell

02:06:14.189 --> 02:06:16.050
they want and enjoy the consequences. Yes, same

02:06:16.050 --> 02:06:18.170
way with my sister. She can live all she wants

02:06:18.170 --> 02:06:24.090
away from me. Yes. I've got more, but I don't

02:06:24.090 --> 02:06:25.909
know if you want to go on or not. I was going

02:06:25.909 --> 02:06:30.449
to mention my brother John tried to contact me

02:06:30.449 --> 02:06:32.430
around Thanksgiving. I think I mentioned this

02:06:32.430 --> 02:06:34.750
to you. Oh, yeah, yeah, but you didn't want to

02:06:34.750 --> 02:06:36.670
hear about it. Yeah, and then he couldn't get

02:06:36.670 --> 02:06:38.149
a hold of me because I blocked him everywhere,

02:06:38.350 --> 02:06:41.130
so he contacted my wife. And said, I'm trying

02:06:41.130 --> 02:06:43.409
to get a hold of, he calls me Chris. You know,

02:06:43.430 --> 02:06:46.430
it's not my name anymore. Trying to get a hold

02:06:46.430 --> 02:06:50.170
of him, but, you know. Is he trying to be a dick?

02:06:50.649 --> 02:06:52.829
That's what he's always called me. I mean, my

02:06:52.829 --> 02:06:54.229
sister still calls me. Because I know you don't

02:06:54.229 --> 02:06:56.050
like to be called Chris. And I don't blame you.

02:06:56.090 --> 02:06:58.489
I'm the same way. At least my sister has actually

02:06:58.489 --> 02:07:02.270
started trying to call me Christopher. But I

02:07:02.270 --> 02:07:04.289
told her, well, I prefer Topher. I like Topher.

02:07:04.369 --> 02:07:06.250
Yeah. I think that's good. You know, if I say

02:07:06.250 --> 02:07:07.890
my name is Christopher, everyone automatically

02:07:07.890 --> 02:07:10.319
shortens it to Chris. And that's not me. Nope.

02:07:11.119 --> 02:07:18.220
But anyway, so he contacted Cindy and she showed

02:07:18.220 --> 02:07:22.180
it to me and said, I can block him or do you

02:07:22.180 --> 02:07:25.180
want to do something about this? So I unblocked

02:07:25.180 --> 02:07:28.199
him on my phone long enough to tell him, you

02:07:28.199 --> 02:07:29.800
know, stay away from me. Don't want anything

02:07:29.800 --> 02:07:32.500
to do with you. Quit trying to contact me. Just

02:07:32.500 --> 02:07:34.739
leave me totally alone. And then I re -blocked

02:07:34.739 --> 02:07:37.579
him. Oh, good. And then about a week later, his

02:07:37.579 --> 02:07:42.119
wife. who had never, ever, in the 12 years that

02:07:42.119 --> 02:07:44.319
I've known about her, posted anything on Facebook,

02:07:44.539 --> 02:07:48.020
suddenly she's posting almost every day. And

02:07:48.020 --> 02:07:50.579
it's all these, you know, oh, it's so horrible

02:07:50.579 --> 02:07:53.439
what the authorities are doing, and we just hate

02:07:53.439 --> 02:07:57.300
them, and oh, these poor people are being terrorized.

02:07:57.840 --> 02:08:00.819
Just total liberal line on everything. I thought,

02:08:00.859 --> 02:08:04.000
that's not Dean. That's John. He has hijacked

02:08:04.000 --> 02:08:07.319
his wife's Facebook account to try to get to

02:08:07.319 --> 02:08:10.670
me. That's the kind of scumbag he is. I've told

02:08:10.670 --> 02:08:12.970
him over and over, leave me alone, stay away,

02:08:13.149 --> 02:08:16.130
I want nothing to do with you. He immediately

02:08:16.130 --> 02:08:19.050
goes out and hijacks his wife's profile so he

02:08:19.050 --> 02:08:21.109
can try to get to me. To me, that's so insecure

02:08:21.109 --> 02:08:23.810
that you've got to have everyone agree with exactly

02:08:23.810 --> 02:08:29.689
how you feel to make it valid to you. Now, I

02:08:29.689 --> 02:08:33.189
know he has crushing insecurity. Obviously. Which

02:08:33.189 --> 02:08:35.649
is part of what makes him a person he is. But

02:08:35.649 --> 02:08:38.890
he also acts like a predator a lot of the time.

02:08:39.069 --> 02:08:40.609
Well, yeah, doing that is a predator. That's

02:08:40.609 --> 02:08:42.909
absolutely predator behavior. He's stalking me.

02:08:42.949 --> 02:08:45.109
He's trying to find a way through my defenses.

02:08:45.210 --> 02:08:48.390
He's trying to sneak in. Yeah. And there's nothing

02:08:48.390 --> 02:08:50.829
good going to come from it. No, he's trying to

02:08:50.829 --> 02:08:53.510
harm you. Yeah. But he's trying to act like he's

02:08:53.510 --> 02:08:56.890
not. Yes. Which is bullshit. So, even though

02:08:56.890 --> 02:08:59.069
I've never met his wife, never talked to her

02:08:59.069 --> 02:09:01.010
in person, I really don't know much about her.

02:09:01.550 --> 02:09:03.310
She's blocked and I want nothing to do with her.

02:09:03.470 --> 02:09:04.869
I would have blocked her too. Because at the

02:09:04.869 --> 02:09:08.350
very least, she's letting John do it. Yes. So

02:09:08.350 --> 02:09:10.949
she's his collaborator, which means I don't want

02:09:10.949 --> 02:09:12.510
anything to do with her. No, I don't blame you.

02:09:12.529 --> 02:09:13.890
I'd be the same way. I'd be like, no, that's

02:09:13.890 --> 02:09:15.449
cool. You know what? You're going to be toting

02:09:15.449 --> 02:09:17.930
his line and trying to terrorize me? Then I got

02:09:17.930 --> 02:09:22.350
nothing for you. And, you know, first thing she

02:09:22.350 --> 02:09:25.909
said, she, first thing in the... The post was,

02:09:26.090 --> 02:09:28.590
you know, we've moved up to Canada just outside

02:09:28.590 --> 02:09:31.310
Edmonton. Oh, gosh, we love it. But the things

02:09:31.310 --> 02:09:34.409
going on back home. Didn't he live in South Africa?

02:09:34.630 --> 02:09:36.810
No, this is the one that lived in Seattle. Oh,

02:09:36.810 --> 02:09:38.869
in Seattle. Okay. Yeah. My oldest brother, Mark,

02:09:38.930 --> 02:09:44.430
is in South Africa. Okay. Since I shut John out,

02:09:44.550 --> 02:09:46.430
my oldest brother, Mark, has quit talking to

02:09:46.430 --> 02:09:49.210
me, too. So he is sympathizing and taking John's

02:09:49.210 --> 02:09:51.510
side, but he's at least leaving me alone. You're

02:09:51.510 --> 02:09:54.250
better off. I'm better off, absolutely. But the

02:09:54.250 --> 02:09:56.569
weird thing was all the things going on back

02:09:56.569 --> 02:09:58.989
home. It's like, no, the United States is not

02:09:58.989 --> 02:10:02.390
your home anymore. No. You abandoned. You left.

02:10:02.470 --> 02:10:04.890
You chickened and ran. Instead of staying here

02:10:04.890 --> 02:10:07.409
and trying to fix what's wrong and trying to

02:10:07.409 --> 02:10:10.130
help, instead you just bailed. And you're going

02:10:10.130 --> 02:10:12.130
to wait up there in Canada until the rest of

02:10:12.130 --> 02:10:14.250
us fix things to your likest. Then you're going

02:10:14.250 --> 02:10:16.109
to come crawling back and say, oh, we get it

02:10:16.109 --> 02:10:19.739
too. No. No, you chickened and ran. You gave

02:10:19.739 --> 02:10:21.819
up. I think you should surrender your citizenship.

02:10:22.140 --> 02:10:24.020
I think so too. I really, really do. I do too.

02:10:24.960 --> 02:10:27.880
Okay, you know, you didn't like it here. You

02:10:27.880 --> 02:10:30.500
said things were bad, so you left. Go be happy.

02:10:30.659 --> 02:10:32.520
Yeah. You said that was going to make you happy.

02:10:32.640 --> 02:10:35.359
Being away from all this oppression and all this

02:10:35.359 --> 02:10:38.119
and everything. Okay, go be happy. Part of being

02:10:38.119 --> 02:10:40.859
happy is not fucking with somebody. And it's

02:10:40.859 --> 02:10:45.300
like divorcing someone. and then still going

02:10:45.300 --> 02:10:47.199
and being a big part of their life and complaining

02:10:47.199 --> 02:10:49.319
about what they're doing and how much you don't

02:10:49.319 --> 02:10:52.140
like it. No, you divorce them. It should be all

02:10:52.140 --> 02:10:54.039
over. They're none of your business anymore,

02:10:54.159 --> 02:10:56.500
are they? I don't give a shit about my ex. I

02:10:56.500 --> 02:10:58.239
don't want to know anything about her on purpose.

02:10:58.500 --> 02:11:03.060
I don't either. Not about mine. But both of my

02:11:03.060 --> 02:11:05.960
brothers are still wanting to get all the financial

02:11:05.960 --> 02:11:09.720
benefits of being an American citizen. while

02:11:09.720 --> 02:11:12.180
at the same time hating America and refusing

02:11:12.180 --> 02:11:14.079
to have anything to do with it and running it

02:11:14.079 --> 02:11:17.180
down to everybody within your shot. Yeah, I don't

02:11:17.180 --> 02:11:18.199
have any respect for that at all. They just want

02:11:18.199 --> 02:11:20.300
the money. And if you really think it's that

02:11:20.300 --> 02:11:22.100
bad, I want to see you do something about it

02:11:22.100 --> 02:11:24.079
besides pointing it out to me and wanting me

02:11:24.079 --> 02:11:26.279
to do something. Yeah. Yeah, a lot of this stuff

02:11:26.279 --> 02:11:29.340
I don't really necessarily deem as worthy that

02:11:29.340 --> 02:11:31.680
I've got to go jump up and down about, so, you

02:11:31.680 --> 02:11:34.529
know, that's their plight, not mine. Yeah. And

02:11:34.529 --> 02:11:36.390
the weird thing about my brother Mark was he

02:11:36.390 --> 02:11:39.770
settled on South Africa because he said there

02:11:39.770 --> 02:11:44.369
is still a lot of racism entrenched here, the

02:11:44.369 --> 02:11:46.869
whites against the blacks, but it's changing

02:11:46.869 --> 02:11:49.130
and I want to be a part of that. And I thought,

02:11:49.189 --> 02:11:51.470
why can't you be a part of that here in the United

02:11:51.470 --> 02:11:54.750
States, the country you were born in, grew up

02:11:54.750 --> 02:11:57.710
in, lived most of your life in? Why is the United

02:11:57.710 --> 02:12:00.430
States suddenly not worth your time and effort

02:12:00.430 --> 02:12:02.989
anymore, but a country you've never seen before?

02:12:04.010 --> 02:12:06.890
before a year ago suddenly that's your new home

02:12:06.890 --> 02:12:09.909
well it's because it's easier over there and

02:12:09.909 --> 02:12:12.649
right now he's still part of the dominant group

02:12:12.649 --> 02:12:16.189
because he's white yeah so i think he enjoys

02:12:16.189 --> 02:12:18.550
you know oh the whites are the ruling class well

02:12:18.550 --> 02:12:20.670
i'm gonna go join them long enough and then i'll

02:12:20.670 --> 02:12:22.829
see about me no he just wanted to be over there

02:12:22.829 --> 02:12:25.529
where whites are king yeah but he wanted to act

02:12:25.529 --> 02:12:27.810
like that he wanted to act yeah he wanted to

02:12:27.810 --> 02:12:30.539
act like i'm gonna be part of the change Well,

02:12:30.579 --> 02:12:31.920
you could have stayed here and been part of the

02:12:31.920 --> 02:12:33.899
change. You could have gone to Mexico and been

02:12:33.899 --> 02:12:37.039
part of the change. You could have gone to any

02:12:37.039 --> 02:12:40.520
place nearby. You specifically chose a place

02:12:40.520 --> 02:12:43.399
halfway across the world where whites still have

02:12:43.399 --> 02:12:46.039
a lot of privilege. And he's not just being intellectually

02:12:46.039 --> 02:12:51.819
dishonest. He's being completely dishonest. Both

02:12:51.819 --> 02:12:54.319
my brothers, I think, are just lying to themselves

02:12:54.319 --> 02:12:59.840
extensively. Fine, go do that. Do it away from

02:12:59.840 --> 02:13:02.159
me. Don't involve me. Quit trying to contact

02:13:02.159 --> 02:13:04.739
me. Stay the hell away from me. Well, that's

02:13:04.739 --> 02:13:06.880
what makes it being completely dishonest right

02:13:06.880 --> 02:13:08.840
there. If you were intellectually dishonest,

02:13:08.840 --> 02:13:10.279
you would really believe what you're saying.

02:13:10.319 --> 02:13:12.859
You would take it upon yourself. Yeah. If you're

02:13:12.859 --> 02:13:14.640
just being completely dishonest, you would do

02:13:14.640 --> 02:13:16.460
what they do and go, well, I'm not going to do

02:13:16.460 --> 02:13:18.000
it, but I'm going to tell everybody else to do

02:13:18.000 --> 02:13:21.819
it. Yes. Now, no respect. Yeah, yeah. It's the

02:13:21.819 --> 02:13:26.300
same when John was talking about wealth distribution,

02:13:26.600 --> 02:13:30.159
redistribution. Break down all the big corporations

02:13:30.159 --> 02:13:32.880
and all the millionaires and stuff and read just

02:13:32.880 --> 02:13:35.779
to be wealth and land and property. And I said,

02:13:35.979 --> 02:13:39.220
you start. Go ahead. You've got more money than

02:13:39.220 --> 02:13:42.560
a whole bunch of people. So why don't you start

02:13:42.560 --> 02:13:46.140
by doing yours? And his response was, well, it

02:13:46.140 --> 02:13:48.500
wouldn't help anything or mean anything if just

02:13:48.500 --> 02:13:51.350
I did it. Everyone has to do it. It's like, well,

02:13:51.390 --> 02:13:54.189
there's the hook. You want to make everyone do

02:13:54.189 --> 02:13:55.810
it. You don't want to do it yourself. You want

02:13:55.810 --> 02:13:57.970
to force everyone else to do it. Either be an

02:13:57.970 --> 02:14:00.970
example or shut up. There's no two parts about

02:14:00.970 --> 02:14:04.109
it. You're either going to help change it, but

02:14:04.109 --> 02:14:06.310
don't just sit there and talk about it. Good

02:14:06.310 --> 02:14:11.909
point. Mark and John are both people that I...

02:14:11.909 --> 02:14:14.430
Well, John I don't talk to anymore. Mark I would

02:14:14.430 --> 02:14:16.750
talk to if he called, but as soon as he started

02:14:16.750 --> 02:14:20.300
getting into any of those... emotionally charged

02:14:20.300 --> 02:14:23.979
opinion subjects. It's like, uh -uh. Not interested.

02:14:24.180 --> 02:14:25.319
We're not talking about this. Just like your

02:14:25.319 --> 02:14:29.819
musical friend that tried to get together with

02:14:29.819 --> 02:14:33.359
you that you told me about. You don't say a name

02:14:33.359 --> 02:14:35.880
or nothing, but you want to describe that? Yeah,

02:14:35.880 --> 02:14:40.960
yeah. My bass playing friend and I would get

02:14:40.960 --> 02:14:44.100
together with this guy in Lenexa at his house.

02:14:44.729 --> 02:14:47.770
and just jam on tunes and have fun. We had no

02:14:47.770 --> 02:14:49.670
illusions of her playing out anywhere. We were

02:14:49.670 --> 02:14:53.590
just having fun and being creative. And he started

02:14:53.590 --> 02:14:56.409
spending most of his time playing golf instead

02:14:56.409 --> 02:14:59.949
of practicing. And then he stopped playing golf

02:14:59.949 --> 02:15:04.130
and started watching every news program on TV

02:15:04.130 --> 02:15:06.430
that would reinforce his views that he already

02:15:06.430 --> 02:15:11.020
had. And then when we'd come over to play, Not

02:15:11.020 --> 02:15:13.119
only would he not have his material ready, but

02:15:13.119 --> 02:15:15.239
all he wanted to talk about was politics and

02:15:15.239 --> 02:15:17.619
social issues. And he wanted to talk about it

02:15:17.619 --> 02:15:20.319
from the point of, I'm right and if you don't

02:15:20.319 --> 02:15:22.260
agree with me, you're dead wrong and here's the

02:15:22.260 --> 02:15:25.899
real truth. So he came at it from a perspective

02:15:25.899 --> 02:15:28.859
as, you will listen to what I say because I know

02:15:28.859 --> 02:15:32.600
and you don't. Which is irritating as hell. So

02:15:32.600 --> 02:15:36.020
eventually, the bass player quit. He's like,

02:15:36.199 --> 02:15:39.449
it takes me a lot of time. to get myself ready.

02:15:39.630 --> 02:15:42.069
Because his right arm was shot up in Vietnam.

02:15:42.449 --> 02:15:45.189
So he can barely move his hand. So it takes a

02:15:45.189 --> 02:15:47.189
long time to warm it up to the point where he

02:15:47.189 --> 02:15:49.949
can play bass guitar. And he spends the time

02:15:49.949 --> 02:15:51.829
to learn the stuff and then come over and we

02:15:51.829 --> 02:15:54.729
don't play. We spend a couple hours while this

02:15:54.729 --> 02:15:57.569
guy goes on his rant or turns on a TV show or

02:15:57.569 --> 02:16:00.689
shows us his name, his thing he bought. Ed's

02:16:00.689 --> 02:16:04.050
just like, nah. And then I bailed too. But recently

02:16:04.050 --> 02:16:06.350
this guy has been contacting me. You guys, if

02:16:06.350 --> 02:16:08.239
you want to come over and hang out. We don't

02:16:08.239 --> 02:16:10.020
have to play if you just want to watch a movie.

02:16:10.640 --> 02:16:12.979
You already turned him down on playing because

02:16:12.979 --> 02:16:15.119
you knew it was going to turn into that. Yeah.

02:16:15.960 --> 02:16:17.680
And then he said, well, you know, if you guys

02:16:17.680 --> 02:16:19.880
just want to come over and hang out, we can watch

02:16:19.880 --> 02:16:22.340
a movie or play a game or complain about our

02:16:22.340 --> 02:16:24.220
stupid, fat -ass president. And I thought, there

02:16:24.220 --> 02:16:28.159
it is. He wants to come over so he can rant at

02:16:28.159 --> 02:16:30.960
us. He's already got his mind made up about a

02:16:30.960 --> 02:16:33.559
ton of things. And whether or not you think Trump

02:16:33.559 --> 02:16:37.010
is a stupid, fat -ass president or not, The last

02:16:37.010 --> 02:16:38.909
thing you want to do is hear somebody else tell

02:16:38.909 --> 02:16:40.829
you why they think so. It's like, that's not

02:16:40.829 --> 02:16:42.989
interesting to me. I don't care. If you agree

02:16:42.989 --> 02:16:44.790
with them, you already know. If you don't agree

02:16:44.790 --> 02:16:46.829
with them, you don't want to hear it. Yeah. But

02:16:46.829 --> 02:16:50.909
he let us know in that text that that's exactly

02:16:50.909 --> 02:16:51.469
what he was planning on. That's why I wanted

02:16:51.469 --> 02:16:53.450
you to talk about it right there is because of

02:16:53.450 --> 02:16:58.110
that. Yep. And since it's his house and we're

02:16:58.110 --> 02:17:00.930
using his equipment, he has a feeling of superiority

02:17:00.930 --> 02:17:04.639
as that, oh, you're here by my. Yeah, so he traps

02:17:04.639 --> 02:17:07.459
you. Yep. It's like, my house, my rules, you

02:17:07.459 --> 02:17:09.319
have to stay here and listen to me while I rant

02:17:09.319 --> 02:17:14.040
at you. Nah, no I don't. So, I didn't tell him

02:17:14.040 --> 02:17:15.899
that that's the reason we're not coming over,

02:17:16.000 --> 02:17:19.139
because I'm not obligated to, but that is the

02:17:19.139 --> 02:17:21.979
exact reason. I called the bass player afterwards

02:17:21.979 --> 02:17:24.219
and talked to him, and we were both exactly the

02:17:24.219 --> 02:17:26.739
same mind. We said, yeah, he sunk his own boat

02:17:26.739 --> 02:17:28.799
when he said that, because... That's what he

02:17:28.799 --> 02:17:31.579
wants to do. He revealed himself. We want to

02:17:31.579 --> 02:17:35.420
play music. We want to do music stuff. And when

02:17:35.420 --> 02:17:37.579
we told him we weren't going to come over and

02:17:37.579 --> 02:17:40.159
do the music stuff, he still tried to get us

02:17:40.159 --> 02:17:41.780
to come over because he still wants somebody

02:17:41.780 --> 02:17:44.020
to rant to. And that's all it was. He didn't

02:17:44.020 --> 02:17:46.159
care about the music. He just wanted to rant

02:17:46.159 --> 02:17:48.700
to you and have you a captive audience. You're

02:17:48.700 --> 02:17:51.879
there. No, we can't go anywhere. Well, you could,

02:17:52.000 --> 02:17:54.840
but it's trouble. So he thinks you're just going

02:17:54.840 --> 02:17:56.479
to sit there and take it for a few hours and

02:17:56.479 --> 02:17:58.719
then leave. And, you know, the bass player said,

02:17:58.860 --> 02:18:00.659
you know, in a lot of ways I agree with this

02:18:00.659 --> 02:18:03.360
guy and things he said, but he's just so overbearing

02:18:03.360 --> 02:18:06.860
and arrogant about it, I can't stand it. So even

02:18:06.860 --> 02:18:08.459
though he agrees with him on a lot of things,

02:18:08.600 --> 02:18:11.040
it's his delivery that just really pisses you

02:18:11.040 --> 02:18:12.940
off. Yeah, and that would do the same to me,

02:18:13.000 --> 02:18:15.659
too. It's like, yeah, it's like, you're not superior

02:18:15.659 --> 02:18:17.899
to me in any way, so don't act like you know

02:18:17.899 --> 02:18:20.459
more than me. It's like, if you ask me, you know,

02:18:20.479 --> 02:18:23.479
what size socket wrench do I use to fix this?

02:18:23.540 --> 02:18:26.489
And I said, oh, a 10mm. That's okay. But if I

02:18:26.489 --> 02:18:31.370
said, it's a 10 millimeter, then you'd be offended.

02:18:31.930 --> 02:18:34.309
That's the way this guy is. That's the way he

02:18:34.309 --> 02:18:37.989
talks, as if you're some retarded, and I'm using

02:18:37.989 --> 02:18:40.409
that term not as a person who's mentally challenged,

02:18:40.489 --> 02:18:44.790
but as a person who intentionally rejects the

02:18:44.790 --> 02:18:48.309
obvious and the reality. Oh, okay, yeah. People

02:18:48.309 --> 02:18:50.309
mentally challenged are mentally challenged.

02:18:50.530 --> 02:18:53.110
The people who want to say the word retarded,

02:18:53.129 --> 02:18:56.909
they're the retarded ones. So that word no longer

02:18:56.909 --> 02:18:59.229
applies to anybody with any kind of physical

02:18:59.229 --> 02:19:03.750
or mental challenge. It only applies to regular,

02:19:03.870 --> 02:19:05.969
able -bodied, able -minded people who are just

02:19:05.969 --> 02:19:09.229
clueless morons. And all these bad words, we

02:19:09.229 --> 02:19:14.190
gave it power. Nobody else did. I mean, all it

02:19:14.190 --> 02:19:16.649
is is a bunch of fucking letters put together

02:19:16.649 --> 02:19:20.069
that we pronounce. And every word goes out of

02:19:20.069 --> 02:19:23.840
fashion eventually. When I was growing up, People

02:19:23.840 --> 02:19:29.200
referred to as idiots or crazy. And then, you

02:19:29.200 --> 02:19:31.600
know, children born with, say, Down syndrome

02:19:31.600 --> 02:19:35.200
were referred to as idiots. Yes. And that was

02:19:35.200 --> 02:19:37.540
normal at the time, like in the, you know, early

02:19:37.540 --> 02:19:39.979
mid -60s. But then that was... But then it was

02:19:39.979 --> 02:19:42.950
like, oh, that's mean, let's... Let's use retarded,

02:19:43.049 --> 02:19:45.510
which means to be slowed or brought back. It's

02:19:45.510 --> 02:19:47.170
a musical term. Like retarding an engine, slowing

02:19:47.170 --> 02:19:50.129
it down. And in music, you'll see it spelled

02:19:50.129 --> 02:19:53.889
as R -I -T -A -R -E, which means to slow down.

02:19:54.510 --> 02:19:58.170
It's a valid word, and it was the nice, more

02:19:58.170 --> 02:20:02.049
friendly, less insulting term. Now it's an insulting

02:20:02.049 --> 02:20:04.030
term, and you have to say mentally challenged.

02:20:04.469 --> 02:20:07.629
Now mentally challenged is out, and you have

02:20:07.629 --> 02:20:10.270
to say... Differently abled. And now that's out.

02:20:10.290 --> 02:20:12.610
Something else. Just on and on and on. I don't

02:20:12.610 --> 02:20:14.569
give a shit, you know? I don't give a shit. I'm

02:20:14.569 --> 02:20:16.770
going to use the word I think is okay. It's like

02:20:16.770 --> 02:20:20.049
he used to say, you know, people used to be called

02:20:20.049 --> 02:20:22.770
bums and hobos. Oh, they're not bums and hobos.

02:20:22.770 --> 02:20:26.030
They're homeless. Now, homeless is... Now they're

02:20:26.030 --> 02:20:27.909
like housing deficient or something like that.

02:20:28.850 --> 02:20:31.530
Unhoused. Unhoused, that's it. Yeah. Saying homeless,

02:20:31.610 --> 02:20:36.209
which is perfectly descriptive, is suddenly insulting?

02:20:37.049 --> 02:20:39.909
but saying unhoused, which in a lot of cases

02:20:39.909 --> 02:20:41.790
is completely inaccurate because these people

02:20:41.790 --> 02:20:43.690
never did have a house. Yeah, and here's another

02:20:43.690 --> 02:20:47.370
one too. If you went to these people and said,

02:20:47.530 --> 02:20:50.690
what are you? Oh, I'm homeless. It's not them

02:20:50.690 --> 02:20:53.930
that are saying it's a bad word. It's some white

02:20:53.930 --> 02:20:56.729
liberal somewhere that goes, we can't use that

02:20:56.729 --> 02:20:59.370
anymore. That's not a good word. And a lot of

02:20:59.370 --> 02:21:02.100
times it's just... a way to get people to do

02:21:02.100 --> 02:21:04.280
what you want them, or it's a social experiment

02:21:04.280 --> 02:21:06.639
to see if you can talk people into abandoning

02:21:06.639 --> 02:21:08.860
a word and picking up the new one you told them

02:21:08.860 --> 02:21:10.479
to. And it's wintertime, so I can say white.

02:21:10.620 --> 02:21:14.739
Yeah. I checked on it, okay? I'm seasonally other.

02:21:16.000 --> 02:21:21.079
It's winter today, so I can say it. Anyhow. And

02:21:21.079 --> 02:21:24.620
I do that to describe the absurd. You know, I've

02:21:24.620 --> 02:21:27.239
decided that in the future, if someone describes

02:21:27.239 --> 02:21:30.799
me as white, I'm going to say, how dare you judge

02:21:30.799 --> 02:21:33.440
me by my appearance? You have no idea what my

02:21:33.440 --> 02:21:35.620
family tree is like and what my ethnicity is.

02:21:35.680 --> 02:21:39.079
How dare you just assume that I'm white? And

02:21:39.079 --> 02:21:40.579
will they say, well, what are you? None of your

02:21:40.579 --> 02:21:43.760
damn business. You know, I used to work at, I

02:21:43.760 --> 02:21:47.639
love that. I'm going to do it. I want to be there.

02:21:48.020 --> 02:21:52.059
A friend of mine that I used to work with, he...

02:21:52.909 --> 02:21:55.370
He used to do this gag. I worked for a union.

02:21:55.409 --> 02:21:57.090
I told you, you know, I retired from sheet metal

02:21:57.090 --> 02:21:58.350
number two. There were a lot of people there,

02:21:58.389 --> 02:22:01.110
old rough house people. They used to wear the

02:22:01.110 --> 02:22:06.889
N word used regularly. Yeah. And my friend, I

02:22:06.889 --> 02:22:08.909
could say his first name, Jeff, whenever someone

02:22:08.909 --> 02:22:10.549
would do that in front of him, he would go, my

02:22:10.549 --> 02:22:17.370
mom's black. You talk about shutting a hillbilly

02:22:17.370 --> 02:22:20.290
down in a hot second. Yep. Because they could

02:22:20.290 --> 02:22:22.520
get fired over that, and they know that. And

02:22:22.520 --> 02:22:25.879
also, they thought that Jeff hated them after

02:22:25.879 --> 02:22:28.479
that. Yeah. And some people... The double whammy

02:22:28.479 --> 02:22:31.379
of, oh, my God, it's his mom. It was his dad.

02:22:31.639 --> 02:22:37.459
Oh, God, it's his mom. Yes. Oh, yeah. One of

02:22:37.459 --> 02:22:39.500
the guys that worked at the gas station had...

02:22:39.500 --> 02:22:42.940
It was a real contradiction. He had trained his

02:22:42.940 --> 02:22:47.659
dog to go on the aggressive alert when he would

02:22:47.659 --> 02:22:50.559
say, no. Where's the N -word? Where's the N -word?

02:22:50.840 --> 02:22:53.540
And the dog would run to the window, and he'd

02:22:53.540 --> 02:22:55.979
look around, growling, trying to find it. But

02:22:55.979 --> 02:22:59.020
he had black friends. Oh, okay, okay. And there

02:22:59.020 --> 02:23:01.700
was one time where a couple women came up to

02:23:01.700 --> 02:23:03.399
the gas station as we were closing, and they

02:23:03.399 --> 02:23:06.040
invited us back to their place because the co

02:23:06.040 --> 02:23:07.760
-worker guy wanted to get something. I think

02:23:07.760 --> 02:23:09.200
he was buying drugs from them or something. Oh,

02:23:09.200 --> 02:23:12.420
okay. And so... Battle gag. Yeah. And, you know,

02:23:12.440 --> 02:23:14.079
I just kind of went along for the ride. I was

02:23:14.079 --> 02:23:15.979
single, and I was a teenager. I didn't care.

02:23:16.780 --> 02:23:19.719
And, uh... He was using the N -word in front

02:23:19.719 --> 02:23:23.299
of them. And I thought, wow, I would never think

02:23:23.299 --> 02:23:27.299
of doing that. That's pretty bizarre. But one

02:23:27.299 --> 02:23:29.280
of the women told me, you know, he's such a good

02:23:29.280 --> 02:23:31.299
friend. We don't care. It doesn't mean anything

02:23:31.299 --> 02:23:34.659
from him. And by the end of the evening, she

02:23:34.659 --> 02:23:37.459
said, I'd be okay with you calling me that word,

02:23:37.520 --> 02:23:40.799
too. I wouldn't take offense at it if you used

02:23:40.799 --> 02:23:42.399
that word. And I was like, well, I'm not going

02:23:42.399 --> 02:23:45.600
to. Because I don't use that word. No, it's just

02:23:45.600 --> 02:23:48.500
not me. No, no, no, no. I know some guys that

02:23:48.500 --> 02:23:51.600
use that word around their black friends because

02:23:51.600 --> 02:23:54.620
they feel like they are a brother, if you will.

02:23:54.700 --> 02:23:56.659
Yeah, they have a temporary black brother card.

02:23:56.959 --> 02:23:59.479
Yeah, yeah. And like I pointed out to a couple

02:23:59.479 --> 02:24:01.940
of them, I want you to go to those people right

02:24:01.940 --> 02:24:05.670
over there and use it. No. Why not? Why not?

02:24:05.850 --> 02:24:07.950
Because it all of a sudden means something to

02:24:07.950 --> 02:24:10.350
everybody, doesn't it? Okay. All right. Did I

02:24:10.350 --> 02:24:12.290
get my point across? I don't think they got it.

02:24:12.409 --> 02:24:16.170
No. But it really shocked me at the time. I was

02:24:16.170 --> 02:24:22.090
probably 18. And the idea that... A black woman

02:24:22.090 --> 02:24:24.229
would say, you know, I'm friends enough with

02:24:24.229 --> 02:24:26.010
you that you could call me that and I wouldn't

02:24:26.010 --> 02:24:28.350
be offended. And I imagine a lot of the other

02:24:28.350 --> 02:24:30.989
black people she hung out with used that word

02:24:30.989 --> 02:24:34.069
constantly, used it referring to her. It was

02:24:34.069 --> 02:24:36.370
no big deal, but it's like, I'm not from that

02:24:36.370 --> 02:24:40.370
culture. So I would be like pretending or invading

02:24:40.370 --> 02:24:42.889
or something. It's like, no, it's not right.

02:24:43.110 --> 02:24:45.149
And all it would take would be for one person

02:24:45.149 --> 02:24:47.829
to overhear me and be upset about it. And they

02:24:47.829 --> 02:24:51.190
could rightly be upset about it. It's like, no,

02:24:51.309 --> 02:24:53.989
I'm not getting anywhere near this. It's like,

02:24:54.010 --> 02:24:58.790
thanks, but no thanks. But it was the first time

02:24:58.790 --> 02:25:01.889
that I actually realized there are some black

02:25:01.889 --> 02:25:04.129
people that are completely fine with that word.

02:25:04.870 --> 02:25:07.809
And I've been told, oh, it's a horrible word.

02:25:08.110 --> 02:25:13.690
Everyone hates it. Obviously not. And then, you

02:25:13.690 --> 02:25:16.049
know, later in the 80s, you had all the gangster

02:25:16.049 --> 02:25:18.250
rap and the hip -hop and the N -word was flying

02:25:18.250 --> 02:25:20.610
everywhere. Quentin Tarantino movies, it's...

02:25:20.610 --> 02:25:23.530
It's been so desensitized now, it's just like,

02:25:23.549 --> 02:25:25.190
it's not even an argument. It's like, I don't

02:25:25.190 --> 02:25:28.510
even want to hear it. It's like... For a lot

02:25:28.510 --> 02:25:30.709
of reasons, for a lot of instances, if you use

02:25:30.709 --> 02:25:33.969
it in an entertainment context, it's suddenly

02:25:33.969 --> 02:25:36.430
okay. Yeah, which I don't agree with at all.

02:25:36.450 --> 02:25:40.590
No. But if you use it in anger or contempt...

02:25:41.340 --> 02:25:44.659
then it's suddenly bad. And in some ways, yeah,

02:25:44.739 --> 02:25:48.100
intent is part of it. Well, yeah, I mean, it's

02:25:48.100 --> 02:25:50.840
the same with being saying, fuck you, piece of

02:25:50.840 --> 02:25:54.079
shit or something. I get that. But, I mean, to

02:25:54.079 --> 02:25:57.200
desensitize it like it is to me was doing to

02:25:57.200 --> 02:25:59.420
people that really don't like that word because

02:25:59.420 --> 02:26:03.540
they were... you know, discriminated against

02:26:03.540 --> 02:26:05.579
growing up and they heard that word, that does

02:26:05.579 --> 02:26:08.000
them no justice at all. No. Because they're like,

02:26:08.100 --> 02:26:10.319
you know, man, you know how long I had to use,

02:26:10.340 --> 02:26:12.420
I had to hear that word and I had to ride in

02:26:12.420 --> 02:26:14.500
the back of a bus or I couldn't get a job. Yeah.

02:26:14.620 --> 02:26:17.079
That's, that does them nothing. All that is,

02:26:17.079 --> 02:26:20.020
is disrespectful to them. Yeah. Now the younger

02:26:20.020 --> 02:26:22.520
people didn't go through that. They use the word,

02:26:22.520 --> 02:26:25.379
it's fine. It's just like the word Nazi. Lost

02:26:25.379 --> 02:26:28.059
all its meaning. All its meaning. Yeah. Because

02:26:28.059 --> 02:26:30.440
everybody's a Nazi if you don't like them. Yeah,

02:26:30.559 --> 02:26:32.639
if someone who disagrees with you, suddenly they're

02:26:32.639 --> 02:26:34.299
a Nazi, because you have no idea what it really

02:26:34.299 --> 02:26:36.360
means. This old Jewish guy that I knew was very

02:26:36.360 --> 02:26:38.260
offended by that. Oh, yeah. He said, yeah, he

02:26:38.260 --> 02:26:40.280
goes, you know, I got a tattoo on my fucking

02:26:40.280 --> 02:26:43.620
arm. From the real Nazis. From the real Nazis.

02:26:43.819 --> 02:26:46.520
Yeah. Yeah, pissed him off. Yeah, I imagine he

02:26:46.520 --> 02:26:48.920
did. Yeah, he goes, now people think it's someone

02:26:48.920 --> 02:26:53.379
that shaves their heads, a Nazi. Yeah. He's long

02:26:53.379 --> 02:26:55.239
gone, but I agreed with him back then. I was

02:26:55.239 --> 02:26:57.239
like, you know what, I get it. It's like they're

02:26:57.239 --> 02:26:59.739
just making it sound like, oh, someone's been

02:26:59.739 --> 02:27:04.399
their stupid face. Yeah, they're stupid, but

02:27:04.399 --> 02:27:06.559
you know. I think the majority of the people

02:27:06.559 --> 02:27:08.920
who are using the word Nazi and are hearing the

02:27:08.920 --> 02:27:11.139
word Nazi have no idea who they were and what

02:27:11.139 --> 02:27:13.719
they did. They just know it's the latest hate

02:27:13.719 --> 02:27:15.479
term. Oh, you hate someone? Call them a Nazi.

02:27:16.170 --> 02:27:19.590
It is. It's chic. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, and it's

02:27:19.590 --> 02:27:21.450
used in politics more than anything anymore,

02:27:21.469 --> 02:27:24.290
which really pisses me off. It's the latest popular

02:27:24.290 --> 02:27:28.290
buzzword. Yeah. Now, you can use neo -Nazi. Oh,

02:27:28.290 --> 02:27:30.549
yeah. That's okay. Ukraine is full of them. Yeah.

02:27:30.629 --> 02:27:34.870
They have an immense problem with the popular

02:27:34.870 --> 02:27:38.770
and growing neo -Nazi movement in Ukraine. And

02:27:38.770 --> 02:27:41.409
all the liberals who are campaigning for Ukraine.

02:27:42.170 --> 02:27:44.510
I have no idea. Well, look at the way they treat

02:27:44.510 --> 02:27:47.489
children. They're not an asset to them. They're

02:27:47.489 --> 02:27:49.170
a liability. They're like, get those things out

02:27:49.170 --> 02:27:52.889
of here. They're really not. I have several friends,

02:27:52.989 --> 02:27:55.270
really good friends, that adopted Ukrainian children

02:27:55.270 --> 02:27:59.250
because they're just discarded like trash. They're

02:27:59.250 --> 02:28:01.329
too expensive to have around. It's enough of

02:28:01.329 --> 02:28:03.309
them over there that does that, that makes it

02:28:03.309 --> 02:28:06.530
bad. So, like, when people are like, oh, those

02:28:06.530 --> 02:28:09.670
pure Ukrainians, you know, oh, those poor guys

02:28:09.670 --> 02:28:12.280
are getting invaded. I'm kind of thinking, well,

02:28:12.379 --> 02:28:13.639
I don't know. You know, I don't know the whole

02:28:13.639 --> 02:28:15.239
story, and I've heard a lot of different things,

02:28:15.319 --> 02:28:18.200
so I can't really make a judgment over here because

02:28:18.200 --> 02:28:20.440
I know there's blood on their hands too. Yeah.

02:28:20.680 --> 02:28:24.940
It reminded me of the late 60s and early 70s

02:28:24.940 --> 02:28:27.840
where Nixon expanded the Vietnam War into Laos

02:28:27.840 --> 02:28:30.659
and Cambodia. Yes. And everyone screamed and

02:28:30.659 --> 02:28:32.940
yelled about these poor, innocent Laotians and

02:28:32.940 --> 02:28:35.479
Cambodians. And then as soon as the Vietnam,

02:28:35.799 --> 02:28:38.860
as soon as the U .S. got out, Within a few years,

02:28:38.959 --> 02:28:40.840
the North Vietnamese took over the whole country,

02:28:40.940 --> 02:28:43.500
and then the neighboring states of Laos and Cambodia

02:28:43.500 --> 02:28:46.760
had their own brutal dictatorist regimes where

02:28:46.760 --> 02:28:49.500
they murdered millions of their countrymen. Wait

02:28:49.500 --> 02:28:51.260
a minute. Didn't you say there were these poor,

02:28:51.340 --> 02:28:53.280
innocent people that were being picked on by

02:28:53.280 --> 02:28:56.139
the big, bad United States? Wasn't that a load

02:28:56.139 --> 02:28:59.620
of shit? That was a load of shit. That's funny.

02:28:59.879 --> 02:29:03.459
Yeah. Well, I guess we should probably cut this

02:29:03.459 --> 02:29:06.420
down. Okay, everybody, thank you for listening,

02:29:06.520 --> 02:29:09.219
man. Our numbers are growing, and I mean, I can't

02:29:09.219 --> 02:29:11.020
thank you guys enough. What about you, Christopher?

02:29:11.159 --> 02:29:13.239
Oh, it's wonderful. It just gives me a warm feeling

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every time I look at the downloads. Yeah, I mean,

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we truly love you guys, and you're like family.

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Go fuck yourself.