Well, since the sports show can't be called two
douchebags with a microphone, maybe we could
just call them the sports bastards. Yes, it's
true. Mark is an old bastard. It's also true
that Mark uses a lot of ibuprofen. But Mark would
like to tell you, if you see any pictures of
him roofing ibuprofen. It's obviously fake, and
you're to take the pictures and tear them up
immediately. These sports bastards. I'm Mark.
I'm Topher. All right, we still are. And it's
New Year's Day for us. Yes, it is. Yep. I don't
know where you are, what you're doing. Right
now, right here, for us, it's New Year's Day.
Yeah, I think some people are on their second
date. Some people are on January 2nd right now.
Yeah, yeah, across the date line. And no, they're
not in the future. No, but some people think.
We'll mention that a little bit later. Yeah,
yep. All right, I've got some stuff here. I'm
glad you've got stuff. Okay. Why don't we...
Okay, first off, you got anything to say about
the Chiefs? Well, they played about how I expected.
I mean, for a bunch of backups, they played hard.
Yeah, yeah. So I really wasn't surprised by much
that happened in the Broncos -Chiefs game from
the Chiefs' perspective, but on the Broncos'
side, I was kind of surprised at how poorly they
played, especially from a Sean Payton -led team.
Yes, how about this? They get destroyed by Jacksonville.
And then they play our third and fourth stringers
and almost lose. And it's not like they don't
have anything to play for. They absolutely have
something to play for, yeah. So they're looking
for that number one seed. Home field advantage
throughout. Yeah, it really surprised me how
poorly they prepared and how poorly they played
and how long they let the Chiefs linger in the
game. They reminded me of the Chiefs. Yeah, yeah.
They just let them stick around, stick around,
stick around, and then finally. They pulled it
off somehow. Yeah. Now, normally, this is what
they would call a trap game. Yeah. But nobody
mentioned that word during the broadcast that
I can remember hearing. They don't do that anymore.
No, they really don't. You know, in Madden football,
they still use that term for whatever part of
reality that affects. Yeah. But I guess if you're
the New York Jets, Madden football is kind of
their Bible. It's what they go to. Yeah, yeah.
Because their owner is senile. You boys play
with Madden, don't you? Yeah. Check out his ratings
and see if we want a trace holder. See if we
want this guy. Oh, God. But, yeah, I really don't
know if Denver's got anything left in the tank.
It doesn't look like it does. No, it really doesn't.
So it's going to be interesting to see who crashes
and burns in the playoffs. Playoffs? Yeah. It
looks like we have a lot of paper tigers. Yeah,
absolutely. Let's see, New England. They beat
one winning record team. Can that be trusted?
And that's Buffalo, that's division. Not really.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Buffalo, how can
you be happier there? I mean, I wouldn't be.
Yeah, they're not. Buffalo is getting things
done, but last minute, last second, desperation
type. They're not playing like an efficient,
well -coached. talented team. They look like
a bunch of people who are, their heads are on
fire and they're running out frantically trying
to figure out what to do and somehow it's working.
That's a good way of putting it. It really is.
They don't get out ahead. They don't dominate.
So it leads me to believe that if you have a
team with a really good defense, they're in trouble.
And I'll tell you what, they better hope they
don't face the Texans. Yeah, yeah. Because the
Texans have that kind of defense that could kill
him. You put Josh Allen on his butt a couple,
three times, and he's rattled for the game. And
he stops believing in his team, and he starts
trying to figure out, oh, I've got to do this
all by myself. And that's a good way to beat
him. It makes it easier. I call this the Spagnolo
effect. Yeah. People watch this. They watch this
in the playoffs many times. Then they're like,
well, who shuts him down routinely? Well, during
the regular season, he doesn't. But during the
playoffs, when it counts, they shut him down.
Yeah. So that shuts a lot right there. Yeah.
So at the very least, I mean, it doesn't seem
like Josh Allen, he's showtime. It doesn't seem
like that. No. You know? It's hard to think of
a single team. that's going to be in the postseason
that looks like a consistently dominating team.
All of them have flaws. All of them have problems.
I think that's pretty much the way the – I mean,
this is like the wet dream for the NFL. Anybody
could win. Anybody could lose. The gambling is
going to go crazy. And then whichever way the
gambling goes, they decide how to influence the
games to push them towards this conclusion or
that conclusion. Yeah, over at NFL League office,
the floor must be really sticky right about now.
Well, I'm sure it is. Yeah, as sticky as a porn
theater floor for the same reason. Yeah, for
the same reason. Okay, well, let's go into some
teams limping into the playoffs since we're talking
about this. Yeah, that sounds good. Playoffs.
How about the Packers? Limping, limping, limping.
Jordan Love's hurt. Yeah. Is he still on concussion
protocol? Well, he's out for the final game of
the season. Yeah, yeah, they took him out. They
have nothing to gain anyhow, so, yeah. We'll
see if he's back next week because they will
be playing next week. They will be playing next
week. They better hope he is. Yeah. But the backup's
playing pretty well. I forgot his name. I forgot
it too. Yeah, we can't necessarily blame that
on him. He's doing a pretty good job. Yeah. The
whole team just kind of seems to be fumbling
around. And to be fair, they were doing that
with Jordan Love too. Yeah, yeah. It's not like
Jordan Love was holding him together. No, no.
No, he wasn't by any means. He probably wanted
to. He's probably trying to, but it wasn't working.
The Packers, whether they're one and done, it's
going to depend widely on who they face. Yeah,
true. Yeah, I mean, if you got them against Philly,
I don't know who I'd pick. Wow, that is, yeah,
that's interesting. Probably Philadelphia just
because they've been there, done that, the pedigree
factor. But only because of that, not the way
they're playing. Because the Packers are playing
horrible as well. Yeah. So, let's go to the Eagles.
Oh, okay. All right. Let's see, who all is going
to be in the playoffs over there in the NFC?
You got Panthers and the Bears. I see them beating
the Panthers. The Bears, I don't see, I don't,
you know what, the Bears, I see a scenario where
the Bears beat them pretty easily. Yeah, I think
more highly of the Bears than just about anybody
else in the NFC. You got the Falcons are in.
And then for the West, it's... What, Seattle
and the Rams? And San Francisco, possibly. Yeah.
It depends. I think San Francisco is still in
play to get the number one seed. I think the
NFC West is probably going to provide the two
wild cards. Yes. Yep. Well, you have three 11
-win teams and one 12. No, there's two 11 -win
teams and one 12 -win team. Yeah. Yeah, so. So
you've got three wild cards. Yeah, you've got
three wild cards. So that could be. Two of the
teams out of the West plus the Packers. I think
so, yeah. That makes sense. Yeah, that does make
sense. And that's going to be a pretty good little
face -off between, I mean, the West is, I think,
where you're going to have the winner coming
out of. Seems like, yeah, if it's not Chicago.
Yeah, I am not still. Not quite sold on Chicago?
No, not quite sold on Chicago and also Sam Darnold.
Oh, true, true. Yeah. So if I had to pick anyone
from there, again, because of the pedigree of
the bidder who done that and all that, I would
pick the Rams over all of them, even though they're
playing fucking horrible. Yeah. I think that
Matthew Stafford and Covey and Sean McVay have
that switch. And I've seen the Niners screw it
up. I have too. When they have everything going
their way and they still manage to screw it up.
They've been doing that quite a bit lately. Yeah,
yeah. That's something they've got to look at
and figure out what's going on there. So, yeah,
I believe the Niners are a lot more capable of
stepping on their own feet. And they have been.
Yeah. So, yeah, I can see that very easily. So,
Buffalo, we talked about them. They're limping
in the playoffs. They need to really get it together
because they are going to lose to a subpar team
when they're playing. Yeah. I think they'll lose
to Jacksonville. They would definitely probably
lose to Houston. Yeah, the Texans. Stroud is
making some. Pretty amazing throws. Yeah. Their
defense is enough to make Buffalo wish they hadn't
shown up. Yeah. Yeah, that's true. So that's
going to be, if they play them, I think Buffalo
could be a one and done if they play them first
off. Yeah. The Steelers, DK, I forgot. DeKalen
Zacharias Metcalf. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's not
going to be in there by any means. Nope. So I
never was high on the Steelers anyhow. I definitely
am not now. No, no. I mean, especially when you
compare them to how the Steelers have been lately,
when they've been a strong team, they've been
a really strong team. Yes. This year they're
just kind of barely strong enough to limp into
the playoffs. Playoffs, playoffs. I could see
them being a one -to -done. Yeah, I could too.
I could too. How about the Bucs if they make
it? No, they're not going anywhere. Yeah, and
I think Carolina's going to stomp their ass.
Yeah, I think Baker Mayfield has lost whatever
he had last season. He just doesn't have it this
season. And earlier this season. Yeah, that's
true. Earlier in the season he was doing a lot
better. First five games he had all the comebacks.
He was looking brilliant. I don't know. Now,
if he's hurt again and not telling anybody, then
that's just stupid. Because that's what he did
in Cleveland. I know. And he got everyone pissed
at him and they ran him out of town. Yeah. So
if he's doing it again in Tampa, well, that's
on you for being that stupid. Because it's going
to get your ass run out of Tampa too. I gave
him a pass and I dogged on the Browns for getting
rid of him and all that and everything. But you
know what? If this continues to happen like they
don't make it to the playoffs, then yes. I think
that I'm going to go ahead and say, you know
what? I was wrong on that. Baker Mayfield is
not anything. Yeah, yeah. It seems like Cleveland
kind of knew what they were doing, at least in
that instance. Yeah. But everything else, no.
No, no. How about the Chargers? Wow. They're
missing something big. Yeah, something just ain't
working right there. Yeah, and I don't think
it's necessarily their defense, although their
defense has a tendency to let them down in big
moments. But Herbert is playing pretty inconsistently.
He's not playing like someone who really believes
in himself and his team. He never has. Yeah.
And, of course, you've got Grandpa Jim there
on the sidelines squinting up at the scoreboards.
Yeah, I don't like Jim Harbaugh at all. I mean,
just look at the University of Michigan and all
the legal troubles they're having there. That's
all on Jim Harbaugh because that's his mess he
created. That's the kind of trash you got coaching
in the Chargers. Yeah, and the people seem to
be fine with that too. Oh, yeah, yeah. For most
people, they don't care if you raped a nun yesterday.
As long as you win and make the money. Yeah,
yeah, they'll be good with you. Yeah. Yep. So
we don't see the Chargers being very good? No,
I don't think so. Okay. How about Sam Fran? They
just lost to the Falcons. Mm -hmm. How many points
did they give up to the Falcons? Was it 32, 38?
It was quite a few, yeah. Something enormous.
Robert Salah was put over there for their defense.
Yeah. I don't really see their defense been showing
up in a few games now. Yeah, it's been a little
hard to see what they're actually trying to accomplish
because they're not being the same team week
after week. It just – I don't get it. No, I don't
either. I don't either. Let me find the – You're
looking for the box score? Yeah. The 49ers played
the Bears. The Rams played the Falcons. Oh, wait
a minute. Rams, Rams, Rams. Sorry, I got that
wrong. The Falcons were up 27 -24 over the Rams.
Yeah. The 49ers were 42 -38 over the Bears. Yeah,
yeah. I was talking about the Bears. Really high
-scoring game. Yeah, 42 -38. So, yeah, the defenses
didn't show up there. And that's the question
I have about the Bears is, is games like that,
too. Yeah. They've given away a couple of them
that I know of already. Yeah. Yeah, and then
the Rams lost to the Falcons. Yeah. Which is
nothing to brag about. No. So all of these teams
have huge flaws, and then we also – so Sam Fran,
I mean, they don't look that good either. I mean
– Inconsistent. Yeah. I mean, they beat the Bears,
yes, but almost did not. And they gave up that
many points. So how good can you feel about that?
Yeah, yeah. They always say defense wins championships.
Not always, but it's a necessary ingredient.
You really got to have a good defense or a consistent
defense. And if you're giving up 38 points to
the Bears, then your defense needs to work. You
won the game, sure, but you gave up 38 freaking
points. No, I know. That's not going to work
next week. No, no, no, no. That's not playoff
football. No, it's not. Playoff. Playoff. So,
all right, let's go to finally, how about the
Broncos? Now the Broncos, as crappy as they looked
against the Chiefs, I think they can turn around
and make a showing in the postseason. Yeah, I
think so too. The reason is because what you
just said, defense. Yeah. So yeah, I could see
them, but they're going to have to pick it up
a lot. Yeah. And the offense is going to have
to take advantage when the defense gives them
opportunities. Yes. Which they don't always do.
Yeah. Yep. I agree. All right. Well, how about
teams that are excelling? Only a couple of them
that I know of. That would be Jacksonville and
the Texans. Out of those two, just because of
the defenses, I'm going to pick the Texans, but
not by far because Jacksonville, they're playing
great situational football. True, true. It's
not like they're playing outstanding. There's
nothing they do particularly like the best at.
which is everything they're just kind of good
enough at and getting it done. So, I mean, how
do you beat a team like that? Yeah, they're going
to be beat somewhere down the line, I'm sure,
but it's going to be hard to beat a team like
that because they're just kind of like, all right,
we're down by seven, but we'll figure out a way.
They're figuring out a way. The Chiefs lived
on figuring out a way. So that's going to be
interesting. The Texans, they're excelling at
the right time. And their defense has always
been spectacular, and their pass rush is phenomenal.
But C .J. Stroud is not having like a statistical
fantastic season or nothing like that. He's just
making some extraordinary plays when it absolutely
counts. And, you know, that's probably better,
you know, because there have been plenty of seasons
that. Like back in the 80s, Dan Marino would
rack up 4 ,000 -plus passing yards and tons of
touchdowns. But they didn't make the postseason
because they had no defense. Yeah. And they had
no running game. Yep. So just basing it strictly
on QB stats doesn't work. No. The fact that he's
making it when it counts, that's huge. That is
huge. Because it also means you're putting yourself
in the position. But then you're also taking
advantage of it and making it work. Yeah, yep.
That's something to admire, something to strive
for. Oh, yeah, yeah. I could see the championship
game in the AFC coming down to just whoever plays
the best situational football. Right now, I'd
like to see a defensive struggle in the AFC championship
between the Broncos and the Texans. I would love
to see that. That, I think, would be exciting.
It's also going to be exciting. I'm not necessarily
wishing ill on the Buffalo Bills, but I think
it would be interesting to see what happens if
the Bills get knocked out embarrassingly in the
first round. Not that I'm wishing it on them.
I'm not a Bills hater. But it would be interesting
to see how the team, head coaching, front office,
etc. reacts, to see how the fan base reacts.
Because if they set up for them this season,
then they're just not taking advantage of them.
No, they're not. Not at all. Yeah. If they don't
do it this season, it's not going to happen.
Yeah. Yeah. They've got to seriously question
a lot of their coaching staff and their philosophy,
et cetera, because they're all doing what they're
supposed to be doing, and they seem to be succeeding,
but it's just not been enough to even get them
in the game. It will be especially crushing for
the Bills if they get in and then get blown out,
which the league would hate. It would be interesting
to see what happens in Buffalo. If they don't
win the Super Bowl, then changes are coming,
I think. I could see the same thing happening
in Dallas. Yeah, I could too. Because Jerry Jones
likes to mess with his team. He likes to play
with things. The rest of the NFC, well, let's
stick with the AFC for the moment. I think the
Bills are the number one. They're going to go
through some changes of the winning team. So
the losing team is, of course, the Raiders. You've
got to do massive amounts of stuff there. Los
Angeles Chargers are going to have to make some
changes. Steelers are going to have to make big
changes. Because I don't think Aaron Rodgers
is going to come back. No, I don't either. And
then in the east, the Dolphins are going to rebuild.
The Patriots are on their way. Yeah. It'll be
interesting. A lot of the perennial teams that
you think are always going to be there on the
– Okay, the new number works. Oh, cool. Okay.
But for the moment, you know, speaking of the
postseason. Pretty much, I think every weekend
is going to be interesting. Yeah. Now that we
don't have the home team to root for, I could
be a lot more objective. No, me too. And not
really care about the outcome, but just be interested
in seeing what happens. Yeah, I agree. Hey, Dom,
we're doing something here. We're trying to get
some people to call in, so I'm posting something.
So if it sounds like I'm preoccupied, I am. Yeah.
So, okay, so we're... What happened to the Niners'
defense? They've been giving up 30 points often.
Yeah. Can you really win a Super Bowl like that?
I guess you can, but it makes it a lot harder.
It's really tough to get to the Super Bowl giving
up that many points in a second game. Yeah, I
don't think they will, but... Everyone's defense
is a little dinged up this time of the year,
but for the Niners, it looks more like they've
been figured out. Every year when Madden football
came out, people would find an exploit play,
something that always worked and you couldn't
defend against. And they would just run that
play over and over and over and over and over.
That's kind of what it's looking like now with
a number of teams, is somebody has figured them
out what the exploit play is that's always going
to work against them. And when they really need
that first down or really need a score, they
go to it and they just hammer them. Yeah, good
point. I try not to base a lot of things on Madden
because that's just fantasy land. But it was
interesting the other day. I fired up Madden
23, which is the 1922 roster. And I put on an
exhibition game of the Chiefs versus the Broncos
and just let the video game run both sides. I
just watched. And the way they had Mahomes programmed
to act. was pretty much how I remember him from
three years ago. He was quick, he was decisive,
he was making throws quickly. He would almost
never get hit or touched. Rarely scamper out
of the pocket. He'd find a way to move around
and make a throw from within the pocket. Every
now and then he'd scamper out and make a throw,
etc. And now I compare that to this season. Madden
football was designed to look like the way the
team looked at that time. To perform the way
they performed. And then this season, you see
Mahomes bolting out of the pocket as quickly
as possible, and then everything just falls apart.
Oh, I know. His total attitude towards the passing
game is so completely different from what it
used to be. Well, the one thing is, he was having
fun. Yeah. He doesn't look like he's having any
fun this year. No. No, you can see the look on
his face. As soon as he hits that line, he looks
worried. And that's a problem. They're going
to have to address that in the offseason. I know
they have components. They have some newer guys
like Poley that seem to be doing good, and they
have Josh Simmons when he comes back. I think
they have Moore for one more year, don't they?
They have Taylor for one more year if he doesn't
commit penalties or something. They have the
components. But I think even more than the offensive
line, we do need offensive linemen. We need depth.
Here's the thing we need. A solid number one
running back. That will help the offensive line
more than anything. Given the other team the
fear that you're going to run, you get four or
five yards to carry. That's pretty much the way
it usually works. I've seen it a lot in the NFL
is you have one featured back and then a change
-up guy. Yes. And the Chiefs just have, well,
we don't know, it just could be this guy for
a few plays, then maybe that guy for a few plays,
and who knows who. And then in the fourth quarter,
nobody runs. No, I know. Isn't that crazy? It's
crap. Because the other team will basically just
disregard your running game when you do it that
way. We don't need to worry about it because
just our basic run defense will take care of
it because they have no plan. They have no clue.
They don't know who they're putting in. They
don't know who they're starting. So obviously
they haven't built a running game around anybody.
It's just an afterthought. I'm disappointed in
Andy Reid that he treats the running game like
an unimportant afterthought. It's just, well,
we have to run every once in a while just to
keep them off our ass when we pass. That's pretty
much it. That's bullshit. I remember seeing that
article, or maybe it was on TV, I think it's
an article, and I told you about this a few times,
but the thing that gets me is, is this right
here. They consider anything, any pass under
like five or seven yards, somewhere in that,
they consider that a run. But it's not the same
as having a running game, which is what they
forget. Yes, but they count it as a run, so if
you talk to them, we run all the time. What are
you talking about? Yeah, they're fooling themselves.
Yeah. Yeah. Now, that's true, which I think it
was. I believe that I had it vetted, and I either
saw it on TV. I'm pretty sure that was correct.
So that philosophy is wrong. They need to change
that. They need to go, that was not a run because
the ball was in the air. It doesn't have the
same effect when you've got your line firing
forward and bludgeoning the D -line, and then
your running back goes through and smashes into
a linebacker. Yeah. That's totally different.
than pass blocking and then the receiver catches
and he gets tackled by one guy. There's a whole
bunch of physical contact and bludgeoning and
hammering that's going on that will have a cumulative
effect by the third quarter and fourth quarter
that the other team's like, damn, that running
game hurts. But if you're doing five - and six
-yard dump -off passes, they don't give a shit.
Nobody's getting hurt. No one's getting tired.
They're like, eh. We'll just keep defending them
right there. So if the coaches are thinking they're
actually running when they're doing that, they're
dumbasses. Yeah, and they wait on our receivers
too. They wait for them to catch the ball, and
then they take their helmet and just drill them
as hard as they can. Yeah. What it is is it used
to be that you had us outsmarting people so bad
to where there wasn't any of that. The guy had
already had the ball and he already ran five
yards before anyone was near him. That's not
happening anymore. Nobody is completely open
anymore unless the play has been going on for
like 30 seconds. That's a good point because
I remember a lot of times when Mahomes would
throw and the ball would go to receiver and everyone
was like, what? How'd that guy get open? Well,
he threw it to that guy. It was a surprise. Now,
when Mahomes brings his arm back to throw, everyone
knows exactly who he's throwing to. Yes. As early
as when his arm is back behind his head, everyone
on the field knows exactly who he's throwing
to. The only exception was the one throw to Rice,
and I can't remember, was it maybe Jacksonville
or something? Yeah, where he looked one way and
threw the other way. Yeah, yeah, that was a little
bit of the old Mahomes. But I also contend that
he's been injured for a while and hiding it,
in my opinion. I mean, I can't prove that. But,
like I said, I am not... I am no stranger to
knee problems. I had a new knee put in. Well,
your wife, too, Cindy. Yeah. And thank you very
much, Cindy. Well, you won't listen to this,
so I'll just send her a text later thanking her
for the breakfast sandwich. Cindy's kitchen is
the best kitchen around. That thing is amazing.
It is. Yep. So. I think he's been injured because,
you know, like I said, courtesy of my last job,
those idiots, you know, I have a lot of knee
problems because of the type of work that I do.
And like I said, I had a knee replacement. There
is a certain walk that you do when your knees
hurt. Yeah. And I've seen Mahomes do that for
quite a few games this year and last year too.
Yeah. This has been coming on, in my opinion.
I mean, I could be wrong, of course, but being
familiar with that type of injury on myself,
I know that walk. Now, this is what confuses
me about the people who bet on football. They're
supposed to tell you when players are injured.
They're supposed to be real up front and be open
and honest about all the injuries. Now, they
don't do that in college because everyone there
is under 21 and they're minors and you don't
share the medical information for minors. But
in the NFL, they're all grown -ass adult men.
At least they're all men now. That might happen
sometime in the future. The only thing I can
think of is normally the gambling community would
say, this isn't right, you're supposed to tell
us when people are fair so we can make an appropriate
bet. But I think what's happening is for the
savvy gambler who knows what extra services to
subscribe to to get inside information, they're
the ones who are learning about all these secret
injuries. Oh, I hear that all the time. So these
injuries are being released, but they're behind
a paywall. So as before, they would just have
to tell everybody to make it fair and honest.
Now they've put that behind a paywall. Oh, you
want to bet on the NFL? Okay. But if you want
the real information, then here's this never
-ending monthly payment you have to give to us.
Yeah, we'll give you what's probably happening.
Yeah. So the more you pay, the more likely you
are to get the true information of what's really
going on. If you're not paying at all, then you're
being lied to left and right. Yes. I have some
of the Super Bowl favorite odds right now. Great.
You want to hear them? Yes. The Rams are currently
the favorite. Interesting. Even after their dismal,
you know, against Atlanta. Yeah. Plus 425 is
what they have. The Seahawks are the second favorite.
They've moved above San Fran by quite a bit,
actually. Plus 550. They like Darnold. Yeah,
I guess so. I'm still not convinced. I'm sorry.
I mean, I'm waiting on this. I don't – Darnold's
playing fantastic. He's playing out of his mind.
But I still contend you get – people have been
watching all your defensive gurus and they're
going to find the holes in his game like they
did everywhere else. Yeah. Minnesota had happened.
Minnesota was like – they were one of the favorites.
They're like, oh, my gosh, look at him. They
are playing on all cylinders. Now, the teams
will tell you. Oh, we're only looking at this
next game next week. We're not looking ahead.
Well, yeah, they are. Yeah, they are. You know,
your defense coordinator is looking at the next
opponent, but he's got members of the staff looking
at the game after that and the game after that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, they are looking
ahead. They have people checking it out. Yeah.
Yes. So right now every team that's going to
be in the postseason has got a staff member or
two examining every other team they could possibly
face. Yeah. So all the homework's being done
right now. The next are, it's a tie between Buffalo,
the Broncos, the Pats, and the 49ers are all
plus 900. So after that plus 550, plus 900. So
there's a considerable gap between the favorites
after that. Buffalo's in the third tier. Yes.
So are the Broncos. That's got to wrangle them.
The Pats and the 49ers. But what's the one name
we haven't heard? The Eagles. Wow, you're right,
yeah. They're plus 1 ,000. Nobody's convinced
about them this year at all. But I'd like to
remind you, they weren't last year either. Yeah.
So last year about this time, yeah. And if the
coach is smart in Philadelphia, which I'm not
sure about. I'm not sure about that. He had another
altercation with fans again. But the smart thing
we'd do would be to point out to the team, hey,
look. This is how little they think of us. Let's
go out there and rub their noses in it. Oh, yeah.
I mean, that can motivate your team. You want
to hear my Nick Sirianni impression? Yeah. You
talking to me? You talking to me? You fucking
talking to me? That's Nick Sirianni. He probably
wishes it were the good old days of the Philly
mob. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know what? You tell
me who that guy is. You go find out. He grew
up watching Casino and Goodfellas, and he thinks,
that's the life, man. I'm surprised he doesn't
wear wingtips and a hat. And say, use guys. Use
guys. Wear a tracksuit. Wait, he does wear a
tracksuit. Hey, forget it. Hey, hang on, hang
on, hang on. I'm Mediterranean. We can say this
stuff. Yes. Yes, okay? I have my card that says
that I can make fun of them. Yep. Yes. You're
from that part of the world. Yes, yeah. Hang
on here. Let me show you. See? Oh, it says it
right there. All right, there we go. Very official
looking. It's laminated and everything. Yeah,
besides this being a podcast. Yeah. But anyhow,
all right. The next one are the Texans, which
I don't agree with. I think they should be higher.
I think so, too. Plus $1 ,200. Advise to put
money on anybody right now. The only money I
put on, but I don't because I'm not a fool. Plus
$1 ,200. How about the Packers? Middle of the
pack. Yeah, middle of the pack. No pun intended.
The Chargers and the Steelers. The Chargers at
$2 ,500 plus $2 ,500. And the Steelers at plus
$3 ,500. That sounds about right. Yeah, I think
that's about right too. Alright, well, let's
get to something else here. I have a bunch of
things here. So, let's see. Oh, I have some bullet
points. Oh, my favorite part. Me too. Alright.
Lions are 8 -8 for a 500 record. What happened
to them? They look like world beaters, not only
earlier this year, but last year. And they keep
fizzling. Part of it is Jared Goff. Yeah, good
point. But that's not all of it. They have other
internal problems somewhere, and it's hard to
really locate it. Do you have any idea of what
is going on? Well, I was going to mention Jared
Goff first. I've been watching the second season
of the Netflix series Quarterback, and Jared
Goff is one of the ones featured. He doesn't
have a personality to me. Not much of one, no.
They're showing last year's season, not this
year's. Two impressions I got right off the bat
is the word fucking comes out of his mouth about
every three seconds. Everything's fucking this
and fucking that, and the fucking ball, we go
to the fucking end zone, and the fucking grade,
and fucking, fucking, fucking. That's Jared Goff.
Everything's a fucking. Yeah, you know, and I
have this story about the word fucking. And how
you use it. All right. You use it appropriately
with exclamation. I think you're probably fairly
intelligent. But if you use it every other word,
you're not. You don't have anything to say. No,
it's a crutch word. So, number one, there's that.
And number two, they started showing his things
from back in his past career, like in Los Angeles.
And he does have games where he is a turnover
machine. Yeah. Like he did last week when he
threw two interceptions and fumbled three times.
He is a turnover machine, and that will come
up, and it will happen to him. That's who Jared
Goff is. Every once in a while, he just loses
his mind and throws the game away. I think Dan
Campbell and company are probably going to be
looking for that guy in the draft. If it's not
this year, it's next year. I'm not even sure
if they're thinking they're ready next year.
So I'm thinking that they're probably going to
look for that guy either this year or next year
in the draft. Because, I mean, look, Sean McVay
could have easily stayed with Jared Goff and
got back into the Super Bowl and all that. But
he wasn't going to win one, and he probably wasn't
even going to get there actually with Goff. Goff
went there one time and he lost. He went down
his leg. So, I mean, it can be done with Goff.
Sean McVay did it, but it takes extraordinary
circumstances. Dan Campbell as a coach strikes
me as the rah -rah guy who will shout and scream
about how great things are, refuse to acknowledge
the flaws and just think, well, we just do it
harder, faster, it'll be all fine. He's like
the guy who's running really fast and thinks,
I can make that 500 -foot jump if I just run
really hard and jump really hard and just believe
real hard in myself. No, you're not going to
make that 500 -yard jump. Oh, no. But Dan Campbell
strikes me as that kind of guy who can convince
himself very quickly that he knows the answer
and he's got the right answer and that's all
he needs to do. And then it blows up in his face
and he looks lost for a little bit. And then
he focuses on something else. This is it. This
has got to be it. And he just goes all in on
that. And that's not right either. That's the
kind of guy Dan Campbell is. No, I agree. And
if he happens to land on the right thing, it
works great. But if he doesn't, everything has
to be exactly right for him to be in that position.
As we saw this year. Well, actually, as we saw
every year. I mean, as soon as the competition
got stronger, he got weaker. And they didn't
just lose last season. They lost badly. Yes.
When they lost in the playoffs, it was like destroyed.
Yeah. And, you know, that's from people watching
you and seeing all of your weak spots and exploiting
every one of them. And that's what happened.
So, I mean, yeah, so they have a lot of rebuilding
to do. And I think you're going to see the organization,
they're going to get rid of Goff or make him
a backup. And they're going to get their guy
or try to get their guy. It's not easy to do.
Not easy to do. And, I mean, you can look at
Patrick Mahomes' draft class as an example. Trubisky,
and who was the other one that was picked before
him? Oh, Deshaun Watson, was it? Yeah. Yeah.
Those two were picked before Mahomes, and astoundingly,
I mean, people were like, like, Mahomes may not
even be in the first round. Yeah, these two,
these are the gems. So, yeah, well, look at history
now. Yeah. So. All right, so the Lions had a
few injuries, but no more than other teams. So
do we agree that that is not an excuse for them?
No, no. Everybody's dealing with injuries. Everybody's
dealing with fatigue and soreness. And everyone's
gone through very, very similar things. It all
comes down to how the team handles it versus
the way other teams handle it for their part.
And guess who's good with that or should be good
with that? That should be... The coach. Yep.
Going, look, adversity makes us stronger, not
weaker. Yep. So here, guys, jump on my back.
I'm going to show you how to do this. I remember
back what was in the 70s, and the Super Bowl
was the Raiders versus the Eagles. Yeah. John
Madden was coaching the Raiders, and Dick Vermeule
was coaching the Eagles, and the game was down
in New Orleans. And the night before the game,
Madden said to his team, go out and have fun,
party, celebrate, have a good time, just don't
get too drunk, get back at a decent time, and
we're going to go out tomorrow and just clobber
these guys. And they all went out and had a great
time and came back relaxed. Dick Vermeule had
all of his team on a very strict schedule, bed
checks, lockdown at 8 o 'clock, and he had them
all. and there was no fun, there was no relaxing.
It was all about business and the game. And when
the Eagles got out on the field, they looked
so screwed up tight and so wound up, they couldn't
do anything. And the Raiders just demolished
them. They were just having fun, enjoying themselves,
and just destroying the Eagles because the coach
fucked up. Dick Vermeule said... in later interviews,
yeah, this is the absolute wrong thing to do,
especially in New Orleans, is I made everyone
stay inside and hate the fact that they were
there. And that just didn't work. So the head
coach is an enormous influencer in that situation.
I agree. And Andy Reid's good at it. I can't
think of who else right off the bat who's really
good at preparing their teams, but I know some
coaches that are lousy at it. Yeah. And one's
Pete Carroll. Another one is Sirianni. Oh, yeah,
yeah. But, yeah, the coach is going to screw
it up for a number of teams. Yeah. The first
week in the postseason, you're going to see coaches
failing more than teams failing. Okay. All right,
well. Detroit didn't have a very good chance
of getting in the playoffs anyhow. But what do
you make of the Vikings beating them soundly
with a brand new rookie? I forgot his name already.
McCarthy. No, not McCarthy. No, no, that's right.
It was Bosmer. Yes. Yeah. And, I mean, he made
some throws that they couldn't stop, which was
kind of ridiculous, you would think. Yeah. especially
Detroit, a hard -hitting, hard -nosed team, supposedly.
They should be able to eat up a third -string
quarterback. You would think so, but they didn't.
So I read a lot into that game right there because
they were still alive at the time. They were
still alive. Yeah, they had everything to play
for. Yeah. They've got a good secondary, a decent
one anyway. Yeah. Yeah, it's surprising. They're
having failure on so many levels right now. It's
really hard to define exactly. I mean, kind of
like the Chiefs, it's really hard to define exactly
what's going wrong. But you see it in the end
result like we have been seeing. So, okay, the
question I got there, and these are all questions
extended from here that I have little sub -questions.
What type of a rebuild is Detroit looking at?
What's the term they say, like a partial rebuild?
They don't need to tear it all down from scratch.
Yeah. But I think part of Detroit's rebuild should
be a change in philosophy for the offense and
defense. I agree, and also a change in quarterbacks.
Yeah. A change in quarterbacks. They can't have
Jared Goff anymore. He's too inconsistent. And
you can get a lot for him. Yes, you can, yeah.
There's a team like the Raiders. could really
use a quarterback of his caliber to start winning
games and change their team around. In case anyone's
wondering, yes, that is true. You have to establish
a winning culture. Yeah. And I'm pretty sure
that when Reed came to Kansas City, he grabbed
Alex Smith right off the bat. not because he
thought he would win a Super Bowl with them,
but he knew that he would establish a winning
culture with them, which he did. And then he
handed it off to the guy that he thought would,
and, of course, they did a few times. Okay, so
that, I think that they have a number of issues
they have to address, but the number one is going
to be, and also the offensive line, too. A pretty
shoddy play on their part, I can see that, too.
So Jared Goff, the offensive line, Gibbs is great.
I think you got your guy there. Their defense
is good, but it's not like it was in previous
years. By no means had I ever even seen a shutdown
defense this year. Yeah, I remember last season
watching the Lions defense, and they looked fast
and energetic, and they were getting pressure.
I don't see that at all this year. Yeah, something
has really gone wrong there. Whether it's a missing
player or two. I don't know. You know, if I kept
track of Detroit better, I might be able to tell
you. Didn't they have Indomitian Sioux? Oh, yeah,
that was a couple years ago. The guy out of Nebraska.
Yeah, yeah. He's gone now. Yeah, he's been gone.
I think he's retired. Yeah, I imagine so. Yeah.
He was one of those questionable iffy guys. Yeah.
Yeah. If you had him running on all cylinders,
he was great. If you had him disgruntled or fluffed
or something like, what would you call it, disgruntled
or frustrated. Yeah, he was a penalty machine
at that point. Yes, yes. So, all right. Dan Campbell
was looted from with his offensive coordinator,
Ben Johnson. Yeah. And that could have a lot
to do with it. Not only Ben Johnson leaving.
but also he got some of his players going with
him. So right there, to me, now let's say that
Nagy leaves, okay, offensive coordinator. He's
not taking any players with him. I wouldn't think.
Why is that? Nobody believes in Nagy, but they
believe in Reed. So how was he, how was Ben Johnson
able to get these players? They don't believe
in Dan Campbell. That's a good point. They had
to be willing to go, and they believed they had
a better chance going to Chicago with the new
coach than sticking around Detroit and building
on what they had. And it proves, at least right
now, they've made the right decision. Yeah, I
believe they really did. Yeah, so to me, that
spoke volumes when they left with him. That's
telling me, like Dan Campbell, they don't think
the reason he's winning is because of Dan Campbell.
Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah. So Ben Johnson's
over there in Chicago, 11 -5 currently, and in
contention for the NFL. They probably won't get
it now, but they're in contention for the number
one seed. So he turned Caleb Williams around.
Yeah. Okay, Caleb Williams is looking fantastic.
So the running game is spectacular. Yeah, they
got a running game. They have an established
running game with a couple of really good running
backs. Imagine that. Yeah. Rest of the teams
in the league. Take a look at Chicago. Yeah.
Yeah, isn't that something? Yeah. Yeah, so I
think Ben Johnson is a huge issue right there.
Yeah. And I think it needs to be addressed. I
don't know if they did patchwork. after he left
or not, but it looks to me like they need to
find their guy. So Johnson has helped Caleb Williams
become a superstar. Could this be a huge factor
in Detroit's collapse, like I said? Yeah. I think
so too. Yeah, I think so. It's like multiplied
in the fact that the Bears and the Lions are
in the same division. Yeah. So every success
Chicago has directly affects the Lions in a negative
way. Yeah. You know, it's expected in this offseason
that Dan Campbell's going to return the favor
and raid Ben Johnson's staff, which he may or
may not be successful at. Yeah. Because members
of Ben Johnson's staff might not want to go over
to the Lions, even if it's a promotion. It's
like, hey, your quarterback's coach over there.
You can come over here and be offensive coordinator.
It's like, yeah, no thanks. Yeah, yeah, no. We're
building a winner over here. I'll stay where
I am. Yeah, you guys go ahead and do what you're
doing there. We're fine. Yeah, I don't see Dan
Campbell being the kind of guy who can convince
other coaches, especially long -tenured coaches,
to make the change. Come on, guys, let's go get
him. And they're looking at him like, no. we're
not going to go get them with you. We're going
to go get them with someone else. It's like the
guys on sports radio whose only convincing argument
is, I mean, come on, man. Yes. That's all they
got in their bag of convincing. And I won't say
who that is, but I've heard a couple in particular
do that. And it's like, I tell you what, on the
radio that does not come out very good at all.
No, no. It comes out as someone not doing their
homework. Yeah, a good phrase I heard in a movie
was someone looked at someone and said, you're
very passionate, but you're not convincing. You
know what, I know a lot of people like that.
Yeah, when you say, I mean, come on, man, come
on. Let's go do it. They're very passionate,
but they are not convincing. Oh, no, yeah, I
agree. Yeah, and all you do is react on emotion,
then they're like, oh, yeah, let's do it. But
if you think... and you use logical, rational
thinking, you're like, they're not saying anything.
They're just trying to rev my emotions up, and
there's no substance behind it. And smart people,
smart coaches, smart players will see that and
go, yeah, that's going to work for about 10 minutes,
and then it's not working anymore. You have your
first monumental collapse, and that's done. The
rah -rah is over. It's like a pyramid scheme.
It only works as long as everything's doing correct.
First little flaw, it all just crumbles and falls
apart. All right, Green Bay got pummeled. Anything
to that? Jordan Love is out for a concussion,
but their defense gives up 218 yards to Derrick
Henry and four touchdowns, not to mention Ty
Dillard Huntley starting at quarterback. So I
go back to Green Bay got pummeled and all those
stats. What is that? Man, I mean, doesn't it
look kind of like they gave up on that game?
Or they didn't prepare? Didn't prepare, I'd say.
Yeah. It really makes me not think the Packers
have anything left to give. I don't think so.
And here's one of the reasons, okay? You knew
Lamar Jackson was going to be out the whole time.
You knew that Tyler Huntley was going to be in.
So what are they going to do? They're going to
run. They have Travis Henry. And Travis Henry,
218 yards. He hasn't done that all season. Yeah,
yeah. Yeah, so that tells me unprepared at the
very least. And the historic value, they go into
Lambeau in December, late December, where the
Packers are supposed to have all the home field
advantage. And Ravens almost doubled their score.
Yeah, isn't that something? Yeah, you can say,
well, a team can have an aberration or a bad
week or whatever, but just this monumental failure,
just total collapse, and to look bad doing it,
that's not a one -week problem. That's not something
that's, oh, this is a blip, it'll be better next
week. No, no, no, no. That's like major bleeding.
Yeah, that's like scrambling, you better figure
something out now. Yep. Because everybody else
is looking at the game film and saying, yeah,
here's how you beat the Packers. Yep, you're
right. Yep, and they are right now, I'll tell
you what. They may make the playoffs, but I don't
think they're going to make it very much further
than that. Playoffs, playoffs. All right, I have
some more bullet points. Those actually were
not bullet points. Those were observations. I
need to start writing this shit down so I know
what I'm doing. Will the Raiders try to seriously
draft a top quarterback in the draft? I think
they're going to get rid of Pete Carroll first.
Yeah. They're going to find that guy and they're
going to find a GM, I think, finally because
Tom Brady's there now. Tom Brady likes the GM
that's there. He does? Yeah, and they have a
good relationship. Okay, then he will probably
be a strong consultant. Yeah, yeah. This would
be the perfect time for the Raiders to go after
a franchise quarterback because you've got Brady
there for advice. He and the GM are on the same
page. They've got a really, really high draft
pick. No one's going to be upset if the current
quarterback crop doesn't come back. Yeah. It's
like perfect setup to go find. But if that guy
isn't there. You mean Aiden McConnell is going
to be a free agent? Imagine that. I can't believe
that. So much talent. You think someone's going
to sign Geno Smith, or is he done? Oh, I forgot
about him. Someone will sign him to be a backup.
I wouldn't mind seeing him as a backup on the
Chiefs. I would love to see him as a backup on
the Chiefs, because I think as a backup, he would
be one of the better ones. Yeah, he's definitely
very smart, and he's got good discipline. He
just can't quite make the throws he used to be
able to make. But for a backup, you don't care.
No, no, no, he would be fine. Because I don't
think we're holding on to Minshew. No. And like
I said before, and I still contend this, on that
throw alone that he didn't have to throw that
got the interception that ended our season for
playoff hopes. Yeah. Look, the season was trashed
anyhow. But that right there, when he threw that,
I was like, don't resign him. That's it. Yeah.
To me, the very first thought that came into
my head when he threw that ball was he knew he
shouldn't have thrown it. He broke the huddle
already with the decision that he was going to
throw it to Kelsey because Kelsey told him to.
It's like he didn't care what happened on the
play, what the defense was doing. No matter how
a play unfolded, he had already decided he was
going to throw it to Kelsey. and he didn't happen
to see the ghost right behind him. Yeah. He was
there just silent, just nothing, nothing to see
here. I'm just standing here right next to Kelsey
while you throw. Oh, wait a minute, what did
he do? He ran in front and caught the ball. And
it's also very possible that the Broncos heard
him or saw him talking with Minshew and figured
out, yeah, Kelsey's telling him, throw me the
ball, throw me the ball. Yeah. Make sure you
– You take the extra special attention on Kelsey
this play. The season was terminal anyhow. That
was just a gunshot that did it. Yeah, but it
shows real lack of judgment on Minshew's part.
Yeah, he should have been like, you may be Travis
Kelsey, but this is my game right now, and I'm
the leader. He should look at it as, Kelsey,
you probably won't be back next year. I want
to be back next year. So I'm doing it my way.
I'm not milling. That should have been a run.
That should have been a run so bad. It should
have been a run. Anyhow, all right. Will Mahomes
be ready for the first regular season game next
year? I'll say no. I'm going to say no either
because I think they're going to tell him you're
not ready. He's going to want to play. Yes. And
they might, let's hope not, but they might actually
let him talk them into starting him, but he won't
be ready and he won't perform well. I say this
again, Robert Griffin III. Yep. That guy was
phenomenal until he hurt his knee and he came
back too early and nobody told him no. Yep. Yep.
Now he's out of football. Yeah. Way out of football.
Way out of football. Yeah. Now he's telling Mahomes
to be careful. Yeah. Tweeting out, you know,
hey, be careful there, guy. You know, don't do
like me. Right now I'm going to say keep Mahomes
out the first four games. Yes. If you go two
and two. That's fine. Yeah. Yeah. It's just like
I've always said, just get us to the wild card.
I don't care. When you've got a guy like Mahomes
and Andy Reid and Steve Spagnuolo, you've always
got to be worried about him. All right. Will
Kelsey join the Pro Bowl this year? I think they're
going to tell him to. Yeah. They want Taylor
Swift there somewhere. Yeah, that makes sense.
The whole Pro Bowl thing is such a different
– it's not even a football game anymore. It used
to be a football game. No, it isn't. It's a big
show. And he is the most popular football player.
Yeah, it's more of a public appearance anymore,
and they can definitely tell the players you
have to go. It's a public appearance. I think
they're going to tell him to go whether he wants
to or not, and I think he's going to go whether
he retires or not. I think he's that kind of
guy that if they ask him and tell him to go,
he will. Yeah. All right, he's a team player.
So, all right, Seahawks are the number one seed
in NFC. Will they be a real threat to Philly,
San Fran, and the Rams? Philly, yes. San Francisco
and the Rams, no. No, I think they'll stomp them.
Yeah. And particularly the Rams. I don't see
Philadelphia beating anybody in the first round.
I really don't. If they play like they have been,
yeah. It's not they're playing excessively bad.
It's just they're just so bland and mediocre
and nothing. Yeah, they have just, that ump that
they had, they lost. That fire in a bottle, they
caught and gone. It's all on the coaching staff,
too. Oh, I agree 100%. Absolutely 100 % on the
coaching staff. Players are fine. The players
are who they were last year. They're just fine.
It's the culture around the team and the club
and during practice and in the locker room, something
is off. Oh, yeah, no, I know. Yeah, something
about Mike DeMone or Nick Sirianni, whoever you
want to call it, Mike DeMone. Hey, hey, you want
some Sabbath tickets? I've got them right here.
Hey, you want from Roe? You want to meet him?
You want to meet him? All right. Yeah, hey, man,
I'll take that action on the game. Don't forget
the two -point spread. Hang on, hang on. I've
got to show my card to you. Okay, I can make
jokes like that. Oh, yeah. All right, okay, all
right. All right, let's see. Matthew Stafford
had a bad game. Will that take him out of MVP
talk? I don't think it will take him out, but
it will definitely hurt him. It set him back
quite a bit, didn't it? Yeah. They'll still talk
about it, but, man, NFC MVP? Caleb Williams?
I would have to say Caleb Williams, yeah. That's
who I'm kind of looking at right now. Yeah, because
what he's done, I mean, the team's success is
due in large part. to Caleb Williams and the
performance he's put through. I think of all
the teams, you take Caleb Williams away from
the Bears, that's the biggest impact. anything
if they took him away. I agree. It's on the same
level as Mahomes. You take Mahomes out of the
Chiefs and they're flat as a pancake. Well, they've
been showing this. Same with Josh Allen in Buffalo,
but at the same time, Josh Allen in there still
isn't all that great. Beautiful shelter there.
Besides Mahomes, who is the best all -around
player on the Chiefs? Bolton is making an argument
for that. Tranquil is really good. Oh, man, Tranquil
is so underrated, too. Drew Tranquil, on all
the big plays, he's somewhere. He's somewhere
around there. Karloftis is another one, but he's
not necessarily underrated. People see him getting
in there all the time. I guess if it were anybody
on offense, it might be the center. Although
he gets a lot of credit. Yeah, I could see Trey.
It's going to be interesting to see when Josh
Simmons progresses because he really got off
to a great start. He had family issues, so he
had to leave and leave for a while. If he would
have played the whole season, I would love to
see where he is at, what kind of stats he put
up. Because that guy right there, if he continues
to play and has his head in the game, He's going
to be one of the best. And that's such an important
position for a right -handed quarterback is having
a left tackle who can keep that rusher from blindsiding
and destroying your quarterback. Look what happened
after he left. Yeah. I mean, the games he was
in there were starting to win like 30 -10, 28
-23. I mean, we were really starting to catch
fire until he left. Yeah, and what they seemed
to be doing was having the left guard move over
to help. On the left tackle, and then people
were coming up right up the middle. Yes, and
it worked. Yeah, it worked really well. All right,
do you believe that Clark Hunt did Kansas City,
Missouri dirty? Oh, yeah, absolutely. But I think
Kansas City, Missouri did not help themselves.
No. They went in lackadaisical and divided and
unattentive. That seems to have been the philosophy
of the Jackson County Sports Authority, is that
who the governing body was? Yeah. Is they were
always planning to do the bare minimum and just
kind of coast and drift by. And I think Jackson
County knew eventually they would lose the team,
but they weren't going to change it. That's the
way I looked at it, too. I think Jackson County
knew they were going either way. And chose not
to even try to compete. Yeah, they just kind
of like, they threw up some smoke. But at the
end of the day, it showed you how far it got
them. They weren't even like really considered,
it didn't look like to me. And I know why. I
mean, look, we don't have to hash into it anymore.
The city of Kansas City, they can't have a relationship
right now. It's working on it. itself yeah so
well i did hear this morning that the chiefs
announced they're going to spend one million
dollars in olathe building team offices practice
facilities and an entertainment entertainment
district of course now they could have done that
while they were over here in kansas city side
but they chose not to because they knew jackson
county wasn't going to lift a finger So Kansas
City, the Chiefs wanted to invest that $1 billion.
It just didn't make sense in Jackson County.
Now it makes sense, and they're doing it. Yeah,
50 -some years, and they never developed that
whole area out there, so why would anyone believe
that? Yeah. Why would anyone in the whole world
believe that? I'm sure Jackson County took the
attitude of, oh, if you wanted to develop it,
go ahead, but we ain't doing nothing. Yeah. No,
I agree. Yeah. All right. Okay. You believe it
too, so that takes away the other question I
have with it. It's like, if not, why are the
people taking this? Well, all right, then finally,
if you could change the Chiefs' uniforms, just
mildly tweak it, not a full -on change, just
mildly tweak their uniforms, what would you do?
Huh. I'm just thinking of putting like a star
on there, kind of like the Cowboys did. Like
putting a star on their shoulder pads or something,
maybe. Yeah. Or maybe even an Arrowhead logo
on their shoulder pads. Yeah. Something I've
wanted to see them do is slightly tone down the
red color to something a little darker. A little
bit more like Tampa Bay -ish, maybe, or something.
Not quite like the Commanders, but instead of
a bright, shiny Fire Engine Red, have more of
a matte finish. Yeah, I think they picked the
Fire Engine Red because of their name, the Chiefs,
which is named after, was it William Bartle?
H. Roe Bartle. H. Roe Bartle. Yeah. The guy that
Bartle Hall is named after. Yes. But I would
say, like, look at the color of... Kind of drying
blood. And that dullish red it has. I'd like
to see that. I'd see that. Kind of like a mix
between the Commanders and the Browns. Yeah.
And have some black accents. Not even the Browns.
Maybe Tampa Bay and the Commanders or something
like that. So do you want to go into some game
predictions? Let's do it. All right. First off,
Seahawks versus the 49ers. I'm going to go Seahawks.
Niners seem a little happy and full of themselves
now. I just get the impression Seahawks are taking
it more seriously. Okay, I'm going to mark this
stuff down. I'm going 49ers. Just because I don't
believe in Sam Darnold. Then after we do these
predictions, I want to make a point that we're
talking about on the way down here. Okay. All
right. Panthers versus Bucs. Wow. We can go Panthers.
And all of these are... I'm going to go Panthers
as well. No, you know what? No, I'm going Bucs.
Okay. Okay, here's the deal. All of these are
playoff implications, if not deciding the division.
All these games. Chargers versus Broncos. Now,
the Broncos have won the division. I'm going
to... I'm going to go Broncos. I think I'm going
to go Broncos, too. It's in Denver, so. All right.
And then finally, the Ravens versus the Steelers.
I'm going to go Ravens because Dean. Yeah, yeah.
What's his name? Dacarius. Dacalin Zacarius Metcalf.
Dacalin Zacarius Metcalf will be out for the
until future notice. Yeah. Until further notice,
yeah. And he has lost. the future contract monies.
Yes, he has. It's roughly going to cost him $45
million in future earnings. And I'm so happy.
I'm so happy that he fucked up his life to that
degree. I think it's awesome. And just because
someone's calling him by his real name, what
is it? Yeah, DeCalin Zacarias Metcalf. DeCalin
Zacarias Metcalf, okay. He doesn't like that
name, Zacarian? DeCalin Zacarias, yeah. Apparently
that makes him start punching people. Oh, okay,
well, that's good to know. If I ever need a couple
of bucks, I know what to do. So, every one of
these games I just referred to are games that
are... Really big playoff implications. Yeah.
So how did, at the first of the year, Seahawks
and Niners, how did they pick that game for the
final game? I wouldn't have picked it. No, me
neither. How about the Panthers versus the Bucs?
No kidding. At the first of the year, it would
be like Bucs are going to be strong, Panthers
are going to be an also -ran. But somehow they
knew. Somehow they knew. Or how about the Ravens
versus the Steelers? Yeah. Chargers versus the
Broncos isn't quite so obvious. But what I want
to bring up, and you and I talked about this
a little bit, is, okay, these games aren't great,
but these games are heavily influenced. Because
every time you see they need a game like you're
talking about Buffalo, go ahead about what you
were saying. I was watching like the second half
of the Buffalo -Philly game, and Buffalo was
playing like crap and couldn't get much done.
Of course, Philly was playing about as badly.
Yeah. But late in the fourth quarter, when the
Bills were down by two scores, they got the ball
back and they were driving. Now, if that drive
failed, then the game's pretty much done. Yes.
I know exactly what you're talking about. I watched
this game too. But as the game went along, suddenly
the penalties started going against Philly that
prolonged the Bills' drive and helped them keep
the drive going, keep the drive going. What would
you call them? Point of view penalties. These
are judgment penalties. Like we were talking
about before about how holding and pass interference
is really a judgment call. Very much so. There's
no textbook one. Unless they're like all over
them and humping their back or something. But
a lot of these are just subject. You see it go
on, go on, and go on. And they have the player
trained to where this is okay. And then at a
critical time. They call it. And it's almost
like they bait the player. Going, it's okay,
go ahead, go ahead. You're not going to call
it today until it matters. And that is a perfect
setup if you want to influence the game is get
the players to be relaxed about breaking rules.
and then selectively enforce them when you want
to make the game go a certain way. And at that
point, the players are so used to doing the wrong
thing that they can't stop. Yeah, exactly. Like,
Jawan Taylor can't manage to line up on the actual
line of scrimmage because he's so used to lining
up too far back. And they let him time after
time because when the moment's right, then they'll
flag him to influence the game in a certain direction.
Well, look at Dee Ford in the famous 2019 championship
game. Yeah. Yeah. Something else I noticed about
the Buffalo game. Or 2018. 2018. 2018, yeah.
Is a lot of these penalties, the flag doesn't
come out until the play's over. That's what pisses
me off. And they've already seen how the play
ends up. And if it worked out the way the officials
wanted to, they wouldn't have bothered to even
throw that flag. Exactly. But, you know, say
it was an incomplete pass on Josh Allen's part,
it brings up fourth down. Then they'll throw
the flag and say, oh yeah, during the play I
saw this thing over here. They didn't throw the
flag at that point, which they're supposed to.
You're supposed to throw the flag at the point
on the field where the penalty occurs. But they
wait until the play is over to see how it works
out. Then decide whether they're going to flag
that penalty. So the flag comes out late. And
I started remembering, that's been happening
all season. Especially in the fourth quarter,
especially on an important drive, the flags come
out late. Because I hear the announcers, okay,
he's got the pass, oh wait, look, now there's
a flag. The officials are talking and now the
flag comes out. Over and over and over, the flag
is thrown after everything is already done. Yeah,
and that's when they figure out what they need
to do. The narrative is like, well, they're up
two by two points, or two scores. We need to
stop this right now. We need to get it within
one score or people are going to stop watching.
Yeah. And they made sure that the Buffalo had
every chance to score, and Buffalo screwed it
up and couldn't get it done. But the officials
in the league office tried really hard to make
sure Buffalo could get it within one score. Well,
if Josh Allen didn't wet down his leg, they would
have got it. The receiver is wide open. He just
could not make it to him. He overthrew him. And
I've also noticed how the players have stopped
objecting to these penalties because they already
know this is how it goes. They've already been
told all season long that you will get called
for penalties at the right moment to make the
game to go in whatever direction the gambling
partners want it to go. So no sense in screaming
and yelling on the field because we've already
told you this is going to happen. You've just
got to get used to it. If you want to stay playing
in the NFL and get that big paycheck, you'll
put up with it and you'll shut up about it. That's
what's happening. Oh, yeah. How about this? Okay.
Sean McDermott, I haven't heard a lot of shit
on him, right? But here's the deal. Why do you
go for two in that situation? You're at home,
and the other team's playing like shit. There's
nothing that screams, I don't have any faith
in you, more. People go, oh, no, he has faith
in him. He thinks you're going to make it. No,
no, no, no, no. No, that means we've got to just
get this horrible thing over with. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, there's supposed to be a formula or a chart
or something for when you go for two. Well, no,
and that's what I was going by. You're at home,
you don't. You go for the tie. Yeah. You go for
the tie, and then, I mean, case in point, look
at the Chiefs in the famous 13 seconds. Yeah.
They went for the tie. And they got it. I mean,
of course, time was working against them, yeah.
But they went for the tie, right? Yeah. Okay,
so go for the tie when you're at home because
you have faith in your team and especially at
home. Yeah, that's been the prevailing wisdom
for as long as I can remember. You have hold
field advantage, so go for the tie, go for overtime.
Now, on the road, it's okay to go for two. On
the road, you take the chances. Because your
chances of winning on the road in overtime are
considerably less. So it's like, let's try to
do it right now. If you do it right now, you
won. If not, then you lost, and that's it. Go
home. But on the other hand, a two -point conversion
gives endless possibilities for a bullshit penalty
by the officials, whereas a kick doesn't. Yes.
And I was looking for that. Yeah. Going for two
means the officials can step in and influence
the game again. Yes. But a kick, you either make
it or you don't. Well, I mean, look, it would
have worked, though. I mean, I have to give him
that, but Josh Allen just had a little happy
feet there. Yeah, he just threw it way out to
the left. That throw could not have been worse.
Yeah. And at least Josh Allen was a man like
Mahomes does, you know, and goes, you know what,
me. I missed him. He was open. I missed him.
And Josh Allen did do that, and I appreciate
that. He took the blame like he should have.
So, all right. But, yeah, I question McDermott,
and maybe he's one of the reasons they haven't
made it to the promised land. Maybe he's a big
reason. I don't know. I've got a cute little
story here. Okay. The first openly gay football
player, Las Vegas defensive back Carl Nassib,
or Naysib. I think it's Nassib, isn't it? I'm
not sure. I think that's how someone else, yeah.
Yeah. In a game in the 2020 season against the
Cleveland Browns, Nassib was getting annoyed
that they kept running bootlegs on the opposite
side of him. So he yelled, hey, stop with all
the gay ass bootlegs. The entire Cleveland Browns
offensive line yelled, you can't say that. That
was funny. And this was his words, not mine.
Yeah, that's funny. Do you want to go into Stephon
Diggs? Oh, yeah. All right. They covered up the
crime in the preseason, but they can't cover
this one. Yeah, but this one came out big and
bold. Yep. New England's paint tree rocks. Wide
receiver Stefan Diggs is facing a felony charge
of strangulation and a misdemeanor charge of
assault with an alleged incident on December
2nd. So this happened more recently than I thought.
I thought this happened in fall somehow. Yeah.
No, it happened a few weeks ago. Mm -hmm. A motion
hearing took place Tuesday morning. It actually
happened last year. Yeah, I guess it is last
year. All the things you haven't done since last
year. I know. A motion hearing took place Tuesday
morning at the Denham, Massachusetts District
Court. Diggs Arraignments is scheduled for January
23rd. which is the Friday before the AFC Championship
game. I don't think he's going to have to worry
about it. No. According to the police report,
a woman went to the police, and it was a woman.
I thought it was a man. Yeah. Okay. December
16th ensured that he was working as a private
chef on the date that the incident in question
when Diggs entered her unlocked bedroom and allegedly
smacked her across the face after they discussed
money he owed her. Yeah, she wanted to be paid
and he said he didn't owe her. Yeah. And he got
violent about it. According to police, she said
she attempted to push Diggs away and he allegedly
tried to choke her with his elbow around her
neck and later threw her on the bed and said
lies when she had not been paid. So, after the
alleged assault, she left her position at the
residence to stay with a friend. When the woman
returned December 9th to retrieve... with a friend
to retrieve her money. The woman returned. Diggs
referred to her as his assistant, who told the
woman she had to sign a non -disclosure agreement
before she would be paid. She did not sign it
for the report. Isn't that dirty? Yeah. Yeah,
I won't pay you unless you agree to cover up
my crime. Yeah. What a scumbag. Yeah, and she
very wisely said, no, that's all right. I think
there's more money on the backside of this. There's
more of this, but I think we got to the gist
of it. Yeah. Yeah. Looks like Buffalo knew what
they were doing to get rid of this guy. Yes.
Yeah. And also, Stevon Diggs was also malcontent
anyhow. He was getting on there and openly dogging
Josh Allens and the whole organization constantly.
Why would you keep someone like that? Yeah. They're
like, no, you know what? You can have all the
talent in the world. Then he went to the Texans,
right? Yeah. How did that turn out? They let
him go too. Yeah. So. So now he's with the Patriots,
and we'll see what happens, because we'll see
how much longer he's with them. Yeah, Stevon
Diggs is one of these guys that are just, the
longer he goes along, the more he's flaming out,
and the more he's showing that he's not going
to probably last in this. Yeah, the rate he's
going, he's going to wind up leaving the league
to go to jail. In the preseason, he was photographed
with a big -ass bag of pink cocaine that he was
trying to give to several of the young ladies
around him. And basically, pink cocaine isn't
cocaine, but it's the new date rape drug. And
it's a mild hallucinogen, and it kind of takes
you out of your head, and you really have no
control. And there he was with like three or
four... His nickname is Bill Cosby. Yeah. And
there he was with three or four women on this
yacht. And everyone knows exactly what he's trying
to do. He's going to get them messed up and then
rape them. Yeah. Which is what Stefan Diggs is.
Yep. That's the kind of guy he is. And I'm surprised
none of this was sexual. I really thought when
I found out it was a woman that, because when
it first came out, it was a man and he was a
trainer. And this is the first reports I got.
And then it was a chef, but it was a man. And
now as a chef, there's a woman that was living
on his residence. Yep. Yeah, I think Stefan Diggs'
crew was trying to spin it. Yes. And it's like,
let's spin it this way and see if we can make
it go away, and they couldn't make it go away,
so now the truth comes out. No, this lady's mad,
and she should be. Yeah. So, okay, earlier we
spoke about the Truman Sports Complex, right,
and how nothing was developed around it. Yeah.
I want to hear a list of everything that's been
developed. Oh, yes. And this isn't even all of
it. There's some of it. There are so many things.
I'll bet. I couldn't even get to them all. So
these are the broad stroke, bigger ones. Okay.
List of all that's been developed or revitalized
before Truman Sports Complex. All right. And
this would be called the Big Bang Wave in Kansas
City, 2005 to 2011. Not all of them, like I said.
Yeah. This period marked the shift from a ghost
town downtown to a destination, which it did.
They did that, and they did it good. The Power
and Light District, $850 million plus, completed
in 2007. It replaced blocks of surface parking
with an eight -block entertainment district.
T -Mobile Center opened in 2007 as a sprint center,
providing a modern arena for major concert and
sporting events. The Kauffman Center for the
Performing Arts. Yeah. Let's see. They did not
give money on the T -Mobile Center, so I don't
think they know, but it would have been well
up in the triple millions. Yeah. $413 million.
It opened in 2011, becoming an architectural
icon for the city. The IRS and Federal Reserve
Building. Massive relocations downtown and Union
Station area brought thousands of daytime workers.
The connectivity wave, 2012 to 2020, and it made
the city more livable and walkable. The KC streetcars
in 2016 till current. So the current initial
2 .2 mile starter line spurred an estimated 4
billion. And then, let's see here, the conversion
boom. The Power and Light Building, the Commerce
Tower, the Grandview Apartments will redevelop
into luxury apartments. The Crossroads Art District
transformed from a collective of empty warehouses
into a thriving hub. The Global Stage Wave, current
redevelopment is focused on massive infrastructure
for the international events like the World Cup.
The KCI Airport Terminal, $1 .5 billion. The
KPCP Stadium, which does not have a price on
it either. The streetcar expansion currently,
which will be another couple billion probably.
And South Loop Link, a planned cap over I -670
to create a 5 .5 and a half acre park, stretched
together with the crossroads in the Central Business
District. And that one right there is a definite
two. We have the private investments too that
they couldn't tap into. And that would be like
the Rock Island Bridge, and that would also be
like the new Barney Alice Plaza slash amphitheater.
What about the Ferris wheel? Oh, the Ferris wheel,
too, yeah. Like I said, this is just the broad
streams. So all of this has been done, and the
point I'm making here is some of it is private
money, yes. But they figured out a way to get
all of this done. They worked at it. They worked
hard. There was a lot of negotiations behind
the scenes. There was tax incentives. There was
this and that. How come that couldn't have been
done with the Truman Sports Complex? One possible.
Now that I'm learning how the Chiefs deal is
with the state of Kansas, the Chiefs are going
to get every penny of income generated in that
Dome Stadium. Whether the Chiefs are there or
not, no matter who's there, no matter who's performing,
no matter what it is, they're getting every penny.
To me, it tells me this. I'm glad that Kansas
got them. I am too. I mean, they're kind of leeches.
I'm sorry. They're still going to be the Kansas
City Chiefs. That's all I give a shit about.
Yeah. But I'm thinking that all through the years,
the chiefs have been telling the county, hey,
develop this area around us. And the county's
saying, okay. And then the chief's saying, oh,
and we get every penny of it. And maybe that's
been the stumbling block is they wanted the county
to develop that whole area and get nothing from
it. The chiefs wanted every penny. And that is
probably a really good answer, I would think.
And you know what? If that's the case, then I'm
sorry, Missouri. We're better off without them.
There's more things we can do with our money
than give them every penny. Because that's the
deal they have with Kansas. And they're building
their own practice facility, team offices, and
entertainment district in Olathe. The Chiefs
announced they're spending a billion dollars
of their own money there. And they're going to
get every penny ever made there. I think that's
what they wanted Jackson County to do with the
Truman Sports Complex is you develop it, we get
the money. You can get your taxes off of whatever's
bought and sold here, but we get the income.
And I think Jackson County said no. And you know
what? Do you agree with that? I do. I would,
yeah. Because it's just highway robbery. Oh,
yeah, especially that you knew that Kansas was
going to get them. Now, if you thought they were
going to go to another team or another state
or another city, then no, then you need to give
in. But since they knew Kansas was going to get
them, they're like, let them pay for it. It's
fine with me. Because what Jackson County could
have done was spent like $2 or $3 billion developing
that area and then make a couple hundred million
in taxes back and then the Chiefs leave anyway.
And now the county is stuck with this giant entertainment
district that no one's going to go to because
the teams are gone. So it wouldn't have made
sense. I would like to do a little add -on note.
Kansas' deadline for the Royals in coming up
with a plan was last night. So it appears that
Kansas City will retain the Royals if things
stay currently like that. Yeah, but they're definitely
leaving Truman Sports Complex. Yeah, Union Station
is backing Washington Square heavily. They said
they want them there. They said that this is
like the perfect location. I agree with them.
You've got Halls Crown Center, and then you have
Union Station. You have the Crossroads. You have
Power and Light, everything right there. But
the main thing is what makes a baseball stadium
a baseball stadium anymore is it's downtown.
You look over there, you see the skyline, and,
I mean, it's a good thing. And the reason is
is because there's so many games, you need to
get more reasons for people to come out. Yeah,
yeah. If you make the area a place where people
are going to be anyway, then just deciding to
go to a game is pretty simple. It's like, hey,
it's only five blocks that way. Let's just go
catch the rest of the game. Yeah, what the hell.
Yeah, we can come down here and then go to the
game if we wanted to, you know. Yeah. Yeah, I
mean. There are a lot of things I don't do just
because it's inconvenient. Yeah. So the more
convenient you make it, the more likely people
are going to come spend their money. So downtown
makes the most sense of anything. We'd go see
a game. Yeah. I mean, we did a couple years ago.
It was fantastic. Yeah. I'd do it again. Would
you? Yeah. Especially downtown. I'd wear more
sunblock next time. Burned. Well, the thing is,
it didn't seem that bad out there. No, it didn't.
But, man, I'll tell you what, that sun was stronger
than it felt. Yes, it was. All right, and let's
see. And finally, I have a... Do you want to
go into any DK Metcalf stuff? Let's save it until
next time. Okay, yeah. I mean, we've already
did digs and all that stuff. Yeah. All right,
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