Hey, my fellow heavy breathers, this is Dash
Riptide, your music news. Hey, this is Dash Riptide
here. I thought I'd let you all know, all you
music fans, that I pre -ordered the Aussie book,
brand new, coming out October 7th. It's called
Last Rites. I think it's going to be phenomenal
from what I read, and you should get it too if
you're a fan. This is Dash Riptide, and that
was your music news. If it's too loud, you probably
have ear damage, just like me. And we're off
and running. Can't stop this mess now. Our music.
Great. There we go. Another extremely awful intro.
You're going to run out of noises. I'm going
to run out of noises at some point. I'll have
to go home and practice. I like to be spontaneous,
though. I don't want to practice. I know, I know.
I like it. You come up with something. This is
what I'm feeling, man. I feel the flow, and it
just comes out, man. More cowbells, more cowbells.
Yeah. Oh. So, music bastards. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah. No, wait, sports creeps? No, sports bastards,
music creeps. Yeah, I went along with it, too.
I thought it was sports bastards. A little bit
of crossover here. Whoa. That was loud. Yeah,
that was a hell of a fart. Yeah, it was. Are
you okay? Yeah, I think I blew out this chair.
I think it was both of us. Wow, I don't know.
Better take a look and see if there's something
I need to wipe up here. Does anyone have a scoop
shovel? That's for me. What is that? That scented
sawdust that they used to throw down when somebody
would barf and spew. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just
the smell of that sawdust to make you hurl. Oh,
I know. Per janitor coming there. Oh, we got
a good one. Look at that. Someone had some ravioli,
didn't they? You little barfing bastards. What
the hell did you eat, kid? Shit. So, music. We
went and saw a nice concert the other day. Yes,
we did. Yeah, it was a lot of fun. Yeah, that
was a great concert. We went to go see Jerry
Cantrell of Alice in Chains, only doing solo.
And as it turned out, the last show of the tour.
Yeah, we didn't know this. Yeah, it was the I
Want Blood tour. It was really, I mean... The
vocals on when Jerry Cantrell was up there weren't
very good. The guitar wasn't very good for Sparta,
the opening band. Yeah, yeah. I wasn't sure what
was going on there, but one thing I did realize
about Jerry Cantrell is he's not a singer. Not
so much, no. Lane Staley talked him into singing
back it. Yeah. So, to keep it true, he couldn't
really hire on his solo project. He couldn't
really hire a lead singer, per se. Yeah. Yeah,
because that's what he does with Alice in Chains.
Yeah, he's got to have some of that background
sound. And he's also, he's kind of like, like
I said, Zach Wild, when he does Zach Savage,
sounds so much like Ozzy. Yeah. Well, so does
Jerry Cantrell. Yeah, yeah. He really... He learned
a lot from Layne Staley, but he's still not a
singer, and he treats it as such because it protects
his voice. He has to. Yeah, I've noticed that.
He doesn't strain things. He doesn't push. He's
admitted that his guitar playing suffers a little
bit while he's singing, but he doesn't. He doesn't
make the mistake of thinking, well, they're here
to hear me sing. No, they're here to hear your
guitar. So don't worry about blasting your vocal
cords away. Well, this was like, oh, the guitar
was so well, what would you say, has its own
signature, his own style. Definitely got his
own tone. And just the style, as you're saying,
the style, you can tell, oh, that's Jerry. His
tone is insane. I mean, we know what he plays,
but I'd like to know some of his tricks. Yeah.
He got that sound perfectly up there. He did.
He's great. He writes songs so uniquely. Yeah,
it's such an unusual trait where he's really
good at songwriting and performing and carrying
the whole band. being a solo project. You'll
hear a lot of solo projects where they put out
decent music, but they're boring as hell in concert,
or vice versa. It's a wild concert, but the music's
kind of great. I think he's got all the bases
covered. He really does. He did, because he was
very entertaining. And also, another thing is,
he is a nice person, obviously. Yeah, everybody
was having nice things to say about him. Oh,
my God, the opening band was just so complimentary.
They said, we've never had people treat us this
good. Every day they check in on us, make sure
everything's okay. This was the last show of
this, and they're not doing the next tour. So
they had no reason. They didn't have anything.
They didn't have to say this. They did it because
it's true and they wanted to let people know
what a fantastic person he is. Yeah. Number two,
the tickets weren't outrageous. No, they weren't.
They were decent. And the parking was free. How
about that? And parking was free, too. And I
think Jerry Cantrell probably has a lot to do
with that. I would say, yeah. So, you know, he's
a guy very respected in the business. He's an
icon in the business and also somewhat legendary,
which he deserves. Yeah. Because Alice in Chains
is one of the few bands... that they became prominent
because of the guitar. They did not become prominent
as a singer or anything like that. Yeah, they
continued past Layne Staley. Yeah, they did.
Their new singer doesn't sound like Layne Staley
at all. Not really, no. No, but they didn't want
to replicate Layne Staley, which I agree with.
True, unless you're going to be like Journey
and find somebody who is basically a clone of
Steve Perry, then you might as well just go a
new direction. Rarely does that work, but Journey,
Looks like we're under attack from tanks at this
point. Oh, shit, they pointed. They think we're
meeting them. Yeah, the armored personnel carrier
right behind them. Yep. Oh, yeah, yeah, there
we go. I also noticed outside the venue there
was one semi truck and one, like, large box truck.
That was pretty much it for Jerry and the opening
act. They didn't bring a big, massive, ornate
stage show that was going to cost them the $12
,000 a night to run. And that's probably one
of the reasons the ticket prices aren't so steep.
Yeah. It's a good... It's a good fit because
I think it's pretty much everybody was there
to listen to the music and see him play, and
they didn't need 12 people dancing around in
some choreography on stage. There are people
who really like that. Great, fine, enjoy it.
But I don't want it in a lot of my music because
I don't need all the people dancing around and
matching uniforms or whatever. And it's nice
to have something different. And the fact is
it's way cheaper to put on a show like that.
Yeah. And I think that helps control the ticket
cost and helps people come in there. There weren't
a lot of people there. Oh, yeah, yeah. They moved
us up because there were some empty seats, but
then they started filling up, so I think we got
away with something there. I think we did, too,
which is fine with me. Yeah. So another thing
is I think a lot of people that were there viewed
it like us. You may never get a chance to see
this legend again on stage. You don't know. Yeah,
and that was the only time I've ever heard Alice
in Chains songs performed live. I have, but I
didn't get the full Wayne Staley experience.
When I saw him open up for Ozzy, number one,
they did a full set. They did. I was really surprised
that Ozzy was like that. He didn't care. They
did over an hour. Nice. Yeah, I mean, they were
almost like a double bill. Yeah. And so, you
know, and Ozzy wasn't intimidated. He wasn't
intimidated by anybody. No. Because he knew he
was going to come out and own it anyhow. He always
did. Lane Staley broke his leg, so they gave
him a big couch. And he sat on that couch and
sang great when his foot popped up. But, I mean,
the real show was not on stage, though. The real
show were the hilljacks that were jumping off
the cliff behind me. Yeah, yeah. I swear, I don't
know how high it was, but I'd say it looked like
50 foot. There's got to be some long -term disability
involved there. Oh, I mean, it was way up there.
Whether it's 30 or 50, not everybody's going
to make that jump. No, no. And that was the cheap
seats up there. And they were wanting the seats.
The first guy made it. Second guy made it. Third
guy made it. Fourth guy went out in a stretcher.
Fifth guy stretcher. And then after that, it
was intermediate. I hear someone else go, oh!
And I look around and go, oh, another one bit
it. It was one of those things. It's like the
Leonard Skinner concert I've seen at the very
same venue. It's Black Oak Amphitheater now,
but at the same time before. It's in the Ozark
Mountains near Lampe, Missouri. So the other
one was Leonard Skinner, and that was because
of fights. Yeah. We went down there to meet some
friends that lived down near Kimberling City,
which is really close to Lampe. Yeah, I've been
there. Okay, yeah. And Lampe's not too far from
Blue Eye. No, it isn't. Yeah, it's right down
the road from Blue Eye. I had an uncle that lived
in Lampe. Oh, okay. A beautiful area. Yeah. He
worked at Silver Dollar City. Oh, okay. All right,
that makes sense. It's not too far away. So anyhow,
they told us, hey, let's meet up at this Skinner
concert. And it was good, we had good seats,
but then everyone behind us kept fighting, so
I finally gave in and just started watching the
fights. I was like, no, Skinner's good, but at
least I can hear the music while these people
are beating the shit out of each other. Yeah,
yeah. So... Count the lost teeth. Yeah, yeah.
Well, I don't know if there's that many involved
to begin with, if there's that many teeth involved.
That's true, yeah. Yeah, but this, again, we're
Hill Jacks. And listen, I grew up in the sticks,
okay? This is affectionately... A lot of hill
jacks listen to this show. Yeah. I know them.
Love them. Okay? I'm somewhat of a hill jack.
Do it. I was going to say, dental hygiene is
not really top priority for a lot of people.
Yeah, and it shows. It shows, yeah. The best
way to do it is to do it like they did, get into
a fight and just have them knocked out. Yeah.
Yeah, problem solved. And by the age of 28, you
can get a full set of implants. Oh, yeah, hell
yeah. Then you get your implant teeth knocked
out, too. Yeah, yeah. So, anyhow, I would give
that concert about a nine and a half. Yeah, that
was very good. Yeah, I'd only take off at half
point because of the sale. Yeah, yeah. For the
opening act, like you, I was having a lot of
trouble hearing the vocals and the guitar. And
when the guitar was playing all by itself, you
could hear it just fine. You could hear it fine,
but they couldn't split it for some reason. Yeah.
And I think in both bands... The bass frequencies,
mostly from the bass guitar, but also from the
kick drum, just ran on too long. Yes. It's like
you get a thump and you want it to quit. This
would go thump. And you just have that hum of
like nine different bass notes going at the same
time. Yes. And it washed out everything. I could
not pick out individual notes from the bass player.
No. Just very rarely. And that's a shame. It's
like, who's hearing this and thinking this is
okay? Maybe it's just my hearing. Maybe everyone
hears it so much better than me. It was just
a lot of a wall of noise. Like the album, I want
to be able to hear each individual instrument
like I do on the album. I don't want just a wall
of loud noise. That's not good enough. For some
people, that's all it is. Like, oh yeah, it was
so freaking loud, man. That's all they care about.
This wasn't all that loud. It was loud, but it
wasn't insanely loud. What was it, 80? Yeah,
I pulled up my phone and it just registered 80
decibels. Maybe I should have pointed it towards
the stage. Maybe that was the bounce back. It
wasn't that loud. It wasn't that loud, yeah.
I have to wear my earplugs because of tinnitus.
When I took them out, it was bearable for me,
which is rare anymore. The next day, I tried
an experiment. I've got a Marshall Combo amp.
I put it in 20 -watt mode. and turned the gain
and the volume up halfway. It stood right next
to the amp and played. And it was pretty freaking
loud, but it wasn't that much louder than the
show was. Really? And that was on 20 -watt mode.
So it sounded, I think, a little louder than
it really was. It really wasn't all that loud.
There was so much high frequency, just like this
massive, buzzy, fizzy high frequency sitting
on top that I wish that they could have killed
that, too. That's where a lot of your ear fatigue
comes from. Oh, yeah, I hate that. Do you think
maybe an artist like Jerry Cantrell, because
they can play very well and they are precise,
they don't want the loudness so you can hear
it better? I would think so, yeah. That's what
I think. A lot of them, that's how they pick
their equipment. It's like I get great note definition
and low noise, and you can hear absolutely every
nuance of what I'm playing. But then you go play
live, and it's just this wall of sound. You can
barely pick out anything. Yeah. It probably sounds
terrific in his in -ear monitors. All of them
are using in -ear monitors. Oh, yeah. So it probably
sounded great in their ears, and they have no
idea how it sounded out in front of the house.
So somebody should tell them. Hey, Jerry, you
sound like this. Yeah. What song was that? I
don't know. One of them, one of them. But, no,
that was, I think, like, the true artists respect
that sound barrier, and they don't go over it.
Yeah. They're bands that go just for noise, and
it's usually the bands that that's about all
they got. It's like one gimmick and a lot of
volume. Yeah. All right. So, yeah, great concert.
Glad we went. Really nice venue. It was the Uptown
Theater. Oh, it's my favorite in Kansas City.
Yeah, it's really nice. I'm old enough that I
remember going there to see movies. Yeah, they
did play movies there for a long time. I saw
Chris Cornell's solo tour. Wow. There. That'd
be something. Late 90s. It was different because
people went there. I didn't. I read up on it.
They're expecting Soundgarden. That's not what
he was doing. His music alone was completely
different. That's not what he did. He did that
with Soundgarden only. So he's coming out there
playing parts of Euphoria Morning, which I love
that CD. It's nothing like Soundgarden. And people
are looking at each other, and I'm thinking,
oh, they think he's going to be playing Room
a Thousand Years Wide. Yeah, Jesus Christ Pose.
Yeah, yeah. Nope. Yeah, that's an odd, I don't
understand it, but that is a thing that happens
is one member of a band will go solo and they
expect him to sound just like the whole band.
Yeah, yeah, and a lot of people ended up leaving
and I'm thinking, you guys are fucking idiots.
They just don't get it. Yeah, they went in with
totally the wrong impression. Chris Cornell got
the money anyway. They bought the ticket and
they showed up, so he got the money. Another
thing is this is getting towards the end. I don't
think Down from the Upside was released yet,
but the band was pretty much... falling apart
before that yeah and um i think that he was looking
at stuff like audio slave and stuff like that
so he didn't really want to do that type of music
anyhow yeah i'm pretty sure when they got together
for that last sound garden album they they all
knew this is our last let's all start planning
for life after sound garden yeah pretty much
after it came out they said we're done yeah and
i think that there's a lot of that element yeah
but me i knew that i was looking at a legend
And I was seeing him right in front of me, hardly
anybody in front of me, looking him in the eyes,
basically. I knew that that was happening. And
some of the songs I didn't recognize because
it was off another album or something else that
he did. But I still was like, I'm staying here
and I'm watching this legend. Because I'll probably
never get this opportunity again. I got to see
him in Soundgarden later, two days before he
killed himself in Detroit. But I was way back.
put on a great show. As a matter of fact, I remember
telling Val, I go, this guy's in his mid -50s
and he's singing like he's 20. He cannot last
a full tour like that. He already had his mind
made up. I only got a couple more stops and I'm
going to go ahead and sing. What a waste of talent.
What a waste of talent. It would have been nice
to have more music from him coming out. But,
you know, in order to be the entertainer and
singer that he was, everything that happened
to him had to happen to him. Yes, I know. But
at the same time, all that stuff also led him
to end his life really early. He was a true,
a true tortured poet. Yeah, you could definitely
put him in that category. There's a lot of posers.
A lot of posers. Oh, my God, I know a lot of
personal. Yeah. It's like, dude, you grew up
in Johnson County, get the fuck away from me.
Let's see, Kid Rock, he comes to mind. Yeah,
he is a good... wealthy suburb and pretends he's
a good old southern boy. He grew up in a wealthy
suburb of Michigan. Of Michigan, yeah. And he
pretends he's a good old southern boy and he
came from the hood. He's like, oh, fuck you,
Kid Rock. Isn't Fred Durst the same? Yes. Yeah,
and it's like people are like, oh, this guy's
from the street. No, that's just what he wants
you to believe. You fucking fell for it. Because
he has songs like American Badass. I would recommend
people read the book Ubermensch. It's either
Jewish or Yiddish for Superman. It's the story
of Shep Gordon, a legendary rock promoter. All
of the things he came up with to promote the
bands he worked with, the craziness, all the
things he made us believe. Oh, I know. He was
so good. And we thought he was so good at lying
to us right to our faces. Oh, I know. In fact,
he's the one responsible for starting the celebrity
chef craze. He started with Wolfgang Puck, and
he was looking for something new to promote.
And he said, everybody eats. Everybody has to
eat every single day. A lot of them go out to
eat, so chefs. I can make celebrities out of
chefs. And he did it. And nobody's ever looked
back from that. Before then, nobody really gave
a damn about who the chef was and what his name
was. What's the name of that book? I'm going
to have to get it. Ubermensch. Ubermensch. Okay,
I'm going to have to get that. Yeah. I've got
it in my wish list waiting for someone to buy
it for me. I'm going to get my wife to buy it
for me. Maybe Christmas or birthdays we can buy
it for each other. That'll be a good one, yeah.
Yeah, there we go. We're kind of buying it for
ourselves, but we're not. Yeah, I like that idea.
He came up with so many wild promotional ideas,
and people just built on it ever since. So there's
tons of people out there that really are nothing
at all like we've been told. Jelly Roll is nothing
like we've been told. That's a back story to
help him sell albums and make him popular, but
yeah, he's not who you think he is. And there's
no reason for him to be. They're entertainers.
Of course they lie to you. That's what actors
do, don't they? He's very good at it. He is good
at it. He's good at pretending to be what he's
supposed to be. He has a lot of underlying talent,
too, so it's no farce that he's there. He's good
enough. I just love the fact he's lost a lot
of weight. He's still pretty heavy, but I love
the fact he's a modern -day meatloaf. He's a
big, heavy guy. I mean, not just kind of heavy,
really heavy, but he has so much swag that women
don't give a shit. They're like, I don't care.
I want him sweating on me. It's cool. It's cool,
man. He can be fat. I still want him. I love
that because it goes to traditional boy band
stuff. It goes against that so much. Yeah. You
know, you have to be what a lot of people consider
to be physically attractive before you even get
considered. Yes. But there are tons of people
who find, like, Jack Nicholson is just butt -fucking
ugly. He is. He's an ugly, ugly man. He is. But
it doesn't matter because he's Jack Nicholson.
He's got the acting chops. He's got the personality.
He's got the swagger. He's got such a delivery,
too. And he's got boatloads of money that it
doesn't matter. And he's at all the basketball
games, all that stuff. No, I agree. Jack Nicholson
is one of the guys that are like that. There's
other ones I can't think of, but there's great
examples of guys that are just... Nickelback.
Oh, yeah. Chad Kroger. Ugliest sin in church
on a Sunday. I was going to say, there's a number
of lead singers, front men for bands that are
just not something you want to look at. Mick
Jagger. Oh, my God. Steven Tyler. Yeah. I mean,
all of them are hideous looking. Yeah. But they
get the tail like no other. Yeah, it's because
of who they are and what they do. It just doesn't
matter what people... Oh, well, you can't like
that person. They don't have the right look.
I don't give a shit. There's also the same here,
the art of peacocking. Yes. Peacocking is something
that a lot of people don't even know it exists.
But it's something that makes you stand out from
the rest of the guys and interesting to where
they go. That guy over there, man, where's he
from? What's he do? You know, and all that stuff.
It promotes interest. There was an old episode
of the Big Bang Theory. You remember the character
Howard Wolowitz? He was always going after anybody
that moved. Yeah, pretty much. Several people
that didn't. Yeah, a piece of paper. One of the
things he did is he was going out to try to meet
checks one night, and he was wearing an eye patch.
And it was like, no, what happened to your eye?
He said, nothing. But this creates interest,
you know. It's something to make me stand out,
and I can make up whatever I want about me. And
he was right. Yeah, yeah. He was right. He could
make up anything he wanted to about that eyepatch
he was wearing for absolutely no reason. Well,
I remember we used to do what we called padding
the stats. Oh, yeah. Have a guy come by, unsolicited,
but he already knows you're meeting up with this
chick. Yeah. And he happens to be walking through
the restaurant. Oh, yeah, I've got to meet my
date here. Mark, hey, what are you doing? Yeah,
oh, not much. And then he'd go into how you saved
the old lady from the bear or something. Oh,
yes. Yeah. And he'd be talking you up, and you'd
be like, oh, stop. No, no, no, no. No, that's
true. Yeah. But because it didn't come from your
mouth, it was like, man, that guy, he's so neat.
Yeah, yeah. And so much of that happens, and
it's done so well that we never even notice.
Yeah. Yeah, I know. It's like the eye patch,
like you said. People would be like, oh, my God,
what happened to your eye? Radio in it. We'll
just call it a radio in it. There we go, radio
in it. Did you keep the part in there about you
making your wife a steak dinner, though? No,
no. I cut it off right after we were talking
about Wolowitz and the eye patch and guys setting
you up for a girl you're meeting. And I decided,
yeah, we started talking about some people we
know and sharing parts of their personal lives.
I forgot we were doing a show, and I asked who
it was, and highly inappropriate to put that
out there. To protect the reputation and the
names of the semi -innocent. Yes. We did a radio
edit. Yes. But it is true that I made my wife
a steak dinner last night. Yes. Yep. Yep, and
like he said, she works with a couple women going
through a divorce. So, I mean, if she wanted
to laugh at him, she could. But she wouldn't.
She's not that type of person. No, no. But she
does like to go brag about me. That's good. The
girls there who don't have... The relationships
they want always tell her to shut up and go away.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. How about a fig leaf? Ooh.
Yeah, yeah. And wear, like, I don't know, a fig
loincloth. And then when she comes home, be there
and go, sit down, madame. And then just start
fanning her. I wanted to ask you about loincloths
and loins. You've heard the term tenderloin.
Yes. What exactly is the loin, and why is it
so tender? Because when Tarzan wore that thing
around his waist, that was a loin cloth. Yeah,
it was. And that was wrapped around his junk.
So is that what your loin is? Well, okay, a tenderloin
of beef or even pork, I believe is like near
the stomach, isn't it? Where do they get it from?
I'm not sure. Because to me, loin and groin are
pretty much the same thing. Because you wear
a loin cloth, you wrap it right around your groin.
They used to call it a groin cloth and then stopped
and started calling it loin. So when you go to
the store and they say they have tilapia loins,
it's like, how does a fish have a loin? What
part of the fish is the groinal area? Where is
the part of the cow that a tenderloin comes from?
What makes it so freaking tender? Okay, it's
the hindquarters above the groin. Huh. Okay,
so back area. So they just took the G off, so
there's the loin area and the groin area. So
the loin area is more towards the... As much
fun as an electric can opener to the scrotum,
two douchebags and a microphone. Hey there, slap
nuts. It's time for The Creeps Music News. Hey,
my little pumpkin seeds, this is Johnny Rohypnol
with your music news. Sepultura guitarist Andreas
Kaiser spoke about the band's plans to release
new music with Sepultura's current touring drummer,
23 -year -old Grayson Neckerman, who officially
replaced Sepultura's longtime drummer, Elroy
Casagrande, in February 2024. He said, as transcribed
by BlackRoute .net, we recorded four new songs
with Grayson on drums. I don't think anybody
knows that, but there you go. We have four new
songs, and we have the intention next year to
release them in an EP. This is Johnny Rohypno.
That was your music news, and remember, bar chords
are bullshit. The butt. Yes. And the groin area
is more towards the genitals. Yeah. Okay. So
if you buy a package of tilapia loins, that means
it came from the fish's butt. Yep. Yeah, there
you go. Yeah, you see, they call it loin, but
the actual loin is near the loin area of the
cow. Yeah. So, I guess they call it tender loin
because it's the tender part near the loin. Yeah.
So, there you go. So, yeah, no, whatever. You
know, that type of thing. So, all right. It's
all confuselating. I got some bullet points.
I love those bullet points. All right. Because
what I got is not related to music all that much.
No, that's okay. I love what we've been doing
so far. Yeah, it's kind of fun. There's a whole
subject on peacocking that I want to get to.
Oh, yeah. Because there's several books written
about it, and I love it. I mean, there's different
ones, too, like the Steve McQueen book. Oh. Yeah,
because he was like notorious ass -scatter. I
believe the book, if I remember correctly, talks
about his tactics. Yeah. And, like, man, I can't
remember. Anyhow, I'll have to look it up. Yeah,
we'll definitely go into some in -depth on that.
That sounds good. Yeah, then there's another
one, too, that's just flat. Some guy that claimed
he got, like, 3 ,000 pieces of tail in, like,
two years or something. But who knows? Yeah,
Walt Chamberlain. Walt Chamberlain was a fact.
Yeah, I think he said, like, 10 ,000. Yeah, I
believe him, too. Wow. Yeah, so. There's some
chafing going on there. Oh, my God. Fucking hell,
how come his dick didn't fall off? I don't know,
maybe it grows back every night. Oh, no. Yeah.
Okay. You know what? That's enough. Yeah. Yeah,
okay. All right. How will Ozzy be remembered
in 10 years? I think very, very fondly. I think
so too. People love him. Even the stuff that
he did that people used to object to, I think
will be remembered with a laugh and a smile.
Well, I'll put it like this. The bat biting the
head off the bat and biting the head off the
doves and all the other antics, you know, pissing
on Alamo. Snorting ants. Snorting ants. Aha,
that's just Ozzy after the Osmonds. Yeah, yeah,
because he never did anything with hate or malice
or evil. He was just bumbling through life. He
was like the perfect rock star. He was. If they
were wanting to go, well, you know, Spinal Tap
was cool, but here's how it really happens. Yeah.
They'd point at Ozzy and go, this is how it really
happens. Yeah, Spinal Tap is the kind of safe
-for -work version. It's like the radio station
that's safe to play at work. Spinal Tap is the
safe version of how things really go. Oh, yeah.
I mean, there's so many Aussie stories that I
love, like the time he disappeared, I think,
in Dallas. I guess Sharon would let him run off
for a little bit, but then when it got a day
from the show, she put out an APB. You see him,
grab him, bring him back. And someone would see
him, grab him, and bring him back, okay? So this
time he came back with a shaved head. It must
have been like trying to herd a bunch of cats,
keeping track of Ozzie. Yeah, she had to growl
him so much. She earned her commission, I'll
say that. Let's face it, he would not have had
a career without her. No, not at all. Oh, no,
he was in disarray. He would have just... Been
content to party until the end of his life. Yeah,
which would have been much sooner. Yeah, that
would have been a whole lot sooner, true. It
almost happened anyhow a few times. Yeah, stay
off the ATVs. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that and just
excessive drug use to where it was so bad, you
know, that the doctor told me he had AIDS because
his immune system was so low from doing all these
drugs and alcohol. You got AIDS, dude. Yeah,
you start getting AIDS -defining illnesses that
no one ever gets unless they have AIDS. It's
like, oh, well, Ozzy said hold my beer. I can
go out and catch one of those diseases too. Yeah,
without AIDS. And then he has to go home and
tell his wife, I got something to tell you. What?
You want to sit down? No, what? No, you want
to sit down. You want a cola? No, what? Oh, God,
should I have AIDS? What? Yeah, that conversation
would not go very well. No, that would be. All
right. Will Ozzy or Sabbath be viewed as the
most influential out of the two? That's a hard
question. That is a hard one. Both of them. Both
of them. Both genres. Whether it be the glamour,
hard rock one, or the metal Sabbath one. It's
one of them that they're defining trade on each
of those. I don't know that you could really
pick one or the other because they had different
impacts. I know. That's the way I viewed it,
too. It's like, look, if you want to ask me,
they're even. Yeah. Yeah. There's not really
any way of really judging it because it's two
different things. Yeah, yeah. This definitely
qualifies as, you know, apples and oranges. You're
trying to compare things that really have their
own unique place. Yeah, and also, Sabbath did
the same thing as Ozzy. When they got rid of
Ozzy, they reinvented themselves with Ronnie
James Dio. And when Ozzy was booted, he was like,
I'm not doing that stuff anymore. I'm not doing
that dark stuff anymore. He said, no, no, no.
I'm going to do this new metal sound. We're going
to party and have fun. Yeah. The girls will dress
nicely and the guys will drool over them. We'll
all have a great time at the concert. Instead
of a bunch of guys with spiked bullet chains
and shit like that. Yeah. I went from... playing
in a hard rock band to playing in a country and
classic rock band. And the attractiveness of
the audience went way up when I switched to country
and classic rock. That's what I heard. Yeah,
because they came out and they wanted to look
good. When I was playing in the hard rock band,
people just kind of didn't give a crap. And,
in fact, looking weird or ugly or dangerous was
a benefit. Oh, yeah. Going back to something
like that right now is, At the Jerry Cantrell
concert. I think groupies have changed. They
no longer wear the skimpy shit and all that and
look like they're ready for anything. Yeah, because
everybody can do that now. Yeah, it looks to
me like they just look regular and, I don't know,
maybe it's hand signals. Maybe they give them
the fucking head job look when they're on stage
or something. I don't know. Or maybe Jerry Cantrell
is way past that. Yeah, yeah. I can imagine getting
to the point where you're like, you know, I'm
kind of bored with this. Yeah, he's like, you
know what, I think I'll just be faithful and
be good. Yeah. All right. Okay. Will Aussie be
viewed as a much larger attraction than Sabbath?
I'd say so. Yeah, because Sabbath, even though
their popularity, they're still niche. Yeah.
From my personal perspective, I paid a lot of
attention to Sabbath. And then when Aussie split...
and after Sabbath kept going, I thought, oh,
this will be interesting. And then Ozzy came
out with the solo stuff, and I hardly ever thought
about Sabbath again. Well, I enjoyed Heaven and
Hell and Mob Rules. I thought those two albums
were two of the, might be their two best. Yeah.
To me, musically, everything about it. But I
know what you're saying. Whenever I wanted to
hear something dark and heavy, heavy metal -ish,
I'd go to Sabbath, but more times I wanted to
hear hard rock. Yeah. Like Ozzy. I was just thinking
of the band Tool. After their third album, Undertow,
their songwriting and playing was getting a lot
more complex. Yes. And their bass player couldn't
keep up. He was an awesome bass player, but he
just couldn't. So I can't remember his name.
They fired him and brought in Justin Chancellor.
Yeah. And their music changed. because Justin
Chancellor was so much better and fit in so well,
and he didn't hold them back from anything. Oh,
no, we're talking about how they do six, seven.
They just keep fucking going. The time signatures
are crazy. The time signatures, yeah. Long, complex
passages that you've got to memorize and have
the timing perfect. It was too much. Yeah. Like
I was talking about Schism. Yeah. It was a great
song, but you can't listen to it that much. It
kind of hurts your brain after a while. It keeps
going and piling on instead of coming to a resolution.
It's like, what the hell are they doing here?
But that's when you get that much talent and
weirdness. They did the same thing in Lynyrd
Skynyrd. After a few albums, their drummer just
couldn't keep up with their songwriting anymore,
so they let him go and hired Artemis Pyle. who
had just finished his military service. This
would be Gomer's brother. Yes. He was in the
military too. But he was a different style of
drummer, and he had a lot more capability, and
Lynyrd Skynyrd's sound changed at that point.
So it was no surprise that Sabbath started sounding
different once Ozzy was gone. Well, they had
to. I mean, you bring in someone like Dio, and
you're guaranteed a dark. A dark, heavier song.
Yeah. The interesting thing always for me is,
how does Ozzy sound once he's out of the band?
I was interested to see how was David Lee Roth
going to sound out of Van Halen, and it turned
out he just went for the... To me, it seemed
like he went for the easy, low -hanging fruits,
like, oh, this will be popular, and I can sell
a bunch of albums, and he didn't put much more
effort into it than that. Yeah, crazy from the
heat, perfect album cover, but the songs weren't
that good. No, they're pretty forgettable. Excellent
musicians on it, but they knew they didn't have
to put a lot of effort into it in order to sell.
Yeah, and they didn't. And he was relying on
his image. And then he got an all -star band
behind him with Steve Vai and Billy Sheehan,
and I forgot the drummer. I forget, too. Anyhow,
so he tried to rely on that, but it didn't work
out very well. When Peter Gabriel left Genesis,
Genesis got a little more normal. They still
sounded like some of the Genesis they had been
doing, but Peter Gabriel just went crazy. It
just went all sorts of different directions.
His first album and his third album don't sound
anything alike. No. Not at all. He was what you
call too creative. Yeah. Way too creative. Yeah.
And if you listen to it, if you look at some
of the lyrics and look up the meanings of them,
a lot of Peter Gabriel's songs are about his
own mental health issues. Oh, yeah. Yeah. There's
one called Digging in the Dirt. And what he's
talking about is his own mind. Yeah. Digging
through the dirt of your own mind to figure out
what the hell is going on in here. How about
Gage the Out Frontier? Yes. What an odd song.
Yeah. What do you think it's about? I'm not really
sure because he mentions... You know, some of
the children he mentions have names of political
leaders like Adolf. Yeah, Peter slept with so
-and -so. That's the way I got it was he was
talking about how they were in bed together and
then they ended up fighting and killing. And
that was pretty much the royalty of Europe in
the late 1800s to the mid -1900s. There's a lot
of royal families that were very much interbred
with each other. Yeah. Because that was, you
know, you married not for love. You married for
political gain, distribution of power. acquisition
of this, that, you know, their marriages between
the royals really didn't mean anything. Yeah.
And I think that's a lot of what he's singing
about. I think so, too. And the whistling in
there was military -ish. Yeah. But kind of lighthearted
and upbeat at the same time. Yeah, yeah. Another
really freaky song. Kind of like Springtime for
Hitler or something. Yes. That was an awesome
movie. Yeah. The Producers, that was it. Oh,
okay. There was another weird song he did called
I Don't Remember. I don't know if I know that
one. And it's got kind of like a marching beat
to it, and it's the basic message of, you know,
I don't know what's going on. I can't remember.
I can't figure this out. I'm just being dragged
along. The song is really full of tension and
angst, and he's probably feeling like that a
lot. I think so, yes. When things are feeling
out of control. And, like, you can't quite handle
it. I've always gotten him. He's odd, but I've
always liked him, and I got him. I think, you
know, he's a tortured poet all the way. Yes.
But he's also brilliant in a lot of ways, too.
True. And a lot of people wouldn't view it as
that. They'd be like, oh, that guy's putting
out trash. No, I don't think so. I think he's
very thoughtful on everything that he's done.
Yeah, and even some stuff that I didn't necessarily
like the first time I've heard it, I'll listen
to it more. And I realized the effort and the
creativity that went into it. A good example
is My Body is a Cage. And it's slow, and for
the most part it's vocal and piano with a few
other instruments, but eventually there's an
entire orchestra hammering away at you. And it
travels, it goes all over the place. It's an
amazing song, and the emotional impact of what
he's singing about is pretty intense too. That's
a song I can listen to every once in a while,
but it emotionally affects me. I get it. I got
songs I can't keep. Who was the most important
member of the original Sabbath lineup? A lot
of people argue with me, but it's Tony Iommi.
I'm going to say Tony, yeah. Because without
that guitar sound... And everything he had to
go through to get it. He would have never had
that sound. No. It would have never been understood.
I mean, let's insert Jimmy Page. No? No? No.
Nothing that spectacular? No. Rick Derringer?
No. No? No. The only one close enough may be
Richard Blackmore. Yeah. But I still don't think
so because he would... He wasn't... Yeah, it's
hard to think of anybody that was as heavy and
expressive as Tony was at that point. No, I know.
He really, yeah. So, yeah, so we both agree.
I think it was Tony Iommi was the most important
in that original four. But the most significant
lead man ever was Ozzie. Yeah. All right. He'll
always be in the top ten list of front men ever.
Yeah, he was a chunky Jim Dandy. So, Vince Neal
suffered a stroke. Should Motley hang it up?
Yeah, because there are a lot of other reasons
too, but that in addition. I want them to hire
John Karabi back and call it something else.
I don't think that they would ever swallow their
egos and pride enough to talk with John Karabi
again. After reading John Karabi's book, he won't
let it happen. He fucking hates him, and I don't
blame him. He never done anything to him. Yeah.
And then they tried to erase him from everything.
And I remember on The Dirt, the movie The Dirt
and the book The Dirt, they have one photo of
him only. It didn't say anything about it. Yeah.
It's complete bullshit. It's not his fault it
flopped. Yeah. It was a great album. It's like
Roger Daltrey blaming the drummer. Yeah. He told
the lie, and now he's got to double down and
triple down. He's got to stick to it. I think
that's what Nicky's doing. Yeah. And I read a
recent thing about how Nicky is very disappointed
in Mick Mars. How can you be disappointed? Mick
Mars gave everything. He did everything he could,
and you kicked his ass out trying to rip him
off. Yeah. He didn't do anything. And people
go, well, he stepped down from touring. Not the
rest of the band. And they said, no, you're stepping
down all the way. So, no, they did let him go
unceremoniously, and they're trying to take his
money from what I read, I mean, allegedly. It's
like Isaac Hayes leaving the cast of South Park.
He voiced Chef, and then all of a sudden he quit.
And the show said, well, yeah, he's a Scientologist,
and he was pissed that we were making fun of
Scientology. And that was the story that everyone
believed. Wasn't the truth. Isaac Hayes was ill,
and he couldn't do the voiceover work anymore.
He loved doing it. He didn't care that they were
making fun of Scientology. He loved being part
of it. And I completely believe that. I completely
believe that. But it worked out better for South
Park to create this false image that, oh, he
was pissed at us, and he was angry, and he quit.
Yeah. And Isaac Hayes, to his credit, never...
He never stepped on their toes. He never contradicted
them. He's like... fine, whatever, and then hits
his family to say, here's the truth. You really
ought to know the truth. He didn't want to quit.
He would have done that forever if he had been
able to. He was so good at it, too. Chocolate
salty balls. Hello, children. I love that. Yeah,
I know. Today, we're going to learn about oral
sex. Oh, my God. Some of this stuff, yeah. Oh,
my God. And then his preaching on women. Oh,
yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, no, son. You're doing it
all wrong. You've got to beat her first. You've
got to get her into shape. He's always getting
the Barry White album out. Yeah. It's time for
some sweet, sweet loving. Hold on, baby. We done
did it six times. I don't know if I want to do
any more. That must have been Cartman's mom.
Yeah, it was. Yeah, of course. Why do you think
he's fat? He watched too much growing up. He
started eating fucking bread loaves every time
she was getting nailed. Remember when there was
that controversy over who Cartman's dad was?
Yeah. And it turned out his mom was also his
dad because she's a hermaphrodite and she could
fuck herself? Yeah. That was his first issue.
That was so awesome. But the whole Cartman's
mom being a total unapologetic slut is because
one of the creators had a girlfriend who cheated
on him. And he was so pissed that he created
that character and gave her the name of his cheating
girlfriend. Oh, that's funny. So every time you
see Cartman's mom being a skank and a hoe, that's
one of the creators talking about his ex -girlfriend.
I love that. That's cool. I didn't know that.
Vince underwent months of rehab to be able to
continue being a lead man. After watching his
performance back, why did he even step on stage?
His face is different. He can't move it the same.
He looks odd. He looks disheveled. He looks disoriented.
He can't move around that well. Yeah, well, Nicky
and Tommy look like they want to beat whatever
dead horse is available. and see if money falls
out. So I think that's what's going to happen.
But the Vince Neal faithful, there's a lot of
women out there who remember how excited they
were looking at Vince Neal in his prime. And
they think of that when they look at him now
and that's good enough. But at a certain point,
that's not going to be enough anymore. They're
going to see who he is now and they're going
to go, you know what, maybe I'm not so crazy
about him after all. Yeah, I never did get...
I think that's coming. I think that day's coming
pretty soon. He was so awful up in Omaha that
we ended up leaving early. I mean, he had Dana
Strums taking over for a lot of the vocals and
singing songs while he took a rest. It's like,
I'm like, no. Look, I love Dana Strum. Great
bassist. He can sing decent, too. We came here
to see Vince. We didn't come here to see Dana
Strum singing. And to me, when you start doing
that, you're done. It's over. Yeah. All right.
Finish the sentence, please. Okay. Ten years
from now, Blank will be viewed as highly overrated.
Wow. Katy Perry. Yeah. R .E .M. Bono. Bono. Anything
Bono has ever made. Those ones came to mind immediately.
I like those. Yeah, those are two good ones.
Pete Diddy, probably already. Yeah, yeah. That's
how no one says anything about him anymore. It's
like he never existed. Oh, I know. It's kind
of like they canceled him in their own mind.
They didn't say anything. They're just like,
oh, he's not there anymore. Yeah. Well, I mean,
some of the stuff that came out, it's really
hard to get around. It's funny watching reruns
of TV shows from the 90s. 90s because they're
name -dropping it constantly as Puff Daddy. But
they're constantly name -dropping it. It was
like, ooh, that's kind of cringy now. It's funny.
Yeah, I can see them. I think Jelly Roll will
probably be on the list of overrated. Jelly Roll
will definitely be. That's who I was going to
say. One of those guys where it's like, wow,
what did we ever see in them? What about Taylor
Swift? I think Miley Cyrus before Taylor Swift.
Miley Cyrus, definitely. Taylor Swift is going
to take a little longer, but I think she will
not all the way. I think people will go, man,
that's a lot of hype. I mean, she was good, but
maybe not that good. She might be looked at the
way I look at the Beatles and say, I understand
that there was Beatlemania and they went crazy
and nuts, but I don't understand why they went
that crazy and that nuts. No, I love the Beatles,
but they've never been my top band. I've always
loved them, but just not that up there. But,
I mean, Ozzy said this very well, too. You're
a kid in England, and America, too. You have
nothing going on. You're bored. And you hear
this new music. It's like, oh, man, they're shaking
their hips. And it's loud guitars, and they're
screaming. I get it. Like you're in Birmingham
right in the middle of the country. It's boring.
It's flat. It's industrial. You need something.
Yeah. You're right. Yeah. So I could see that
initial flash. Yeah. And I think the rest is
just people talking them up. So everyone goes
along with it. Yeah, they were the best band
ever. Yeah. Well, the music they wrote up, predominantly
the hits were just ditties. I mean, they weren't
anything spectacular. Yeah. And, you know, for
all we know, all those video clips of the screaming
fans losing their mind over the Beatles, maybe
that's just the same few clips played over and
over, and it only happened a few times. Could
be. And they just built up this whole image from
that, and we all just took their word for it.
Oh, yeah. Well, I mean, if you really want to
get down to it, I think John Lennon was just
as successful as the Beatles when they broke
up. Yeah. Paul McCartney went the totally commercial...
radio -friendly songs. I can't judge him because
I don't think he did the same thing. No, no.
He was like, I'll make happy, fun songs that
people want to pay money for and then I'll just
have a happy life. John Lennon's like, okay,
now I can say what I've really been wanting to
say all this time. Yes, and he did, too. And
he did, yes. Yeah, John Lennon's songs meant
something. Paul McCartney's songs didn't mean
a damn thing. mindset on you. Was that a Paul
McCartney song? No, that's George Harrison. The
song is just seven words long. The song is just
seven words long. But then you hear songs like
My Sweet Lord and you're like, my gosh, that
guy was talented. Even though he stole that from
a girl group. Oh, did he? My Sweet Lord. I didn't
know that. He ripped off a He's So Fine. I can't
remember the name of the group, but they took
him to court. And they played it all in court,
and he's like, oh, my God, you're right. I did
totally rip that song. I didn't do it on purpose.
I just had no idea. But, yeah, I copied your
song. I just didn't remember that I'd heard it
before. That happens all the time. Every royalty
for My Sweet Lord goes to that girl group. He
had enough money for the Beatles. And he was
okay with it. He said, honestly, I didn't try
to do it on purpose, but I did very clearly rip
them off. Yep. I think Eric Clapton had something
to do with it, too. Yeah. Yeah, he did. He was
probably out there hating people of color and
then decided. Yeah, he decided. What rock icon
would you like to see do a spoken word tour?
Oh, my gosh. Maynard James Keenan. Oh, God, yeah.
From Tool. Yep. Alice Cooper. Yeah. If he wasn't
such a complete scumbag of a human being, I'd
say Roger Waters, but not anymore. No, not anymore.
Before, I would have said, yeah, not now. Not
now. I'm not interested in the thing he has to
say. No. Bruce Dickinson was excellent. Yeah.
My God, it couldn't have been any better. Neil
Young probably would have a lot of stories to
tell, but he probably can't remember them. He
probably can't remember them. He can't remember
his guitar chords. He's not going to remember
them. He never struck me as a real good communicator
anyway. No. Let's see. I'm trying to think of
some people. You know, I would love to hear...
Actually, I'd like to hear Nikki Sixx. but not
on his business bullshit or trying to screw somebody
out of the business or whatever and all the shit
that's allegedly going on. I want to hear his
stories from the early 80s and all of that. Or
pick a guitar player who's been in a bunch of
different bands like Steve Morse. I would love
to hear... Steve Morse would actually be a great
one. Because Kansas, Deep Purple, Dixie Dregs...
A couple others. There are a couple others, yeah.
His career has just been phenomenal. I think
I read where he's going to do a solo thing now.
Yeah, uh -huh. Yeah, I'd love to hear it because
I've always liked his guitaring. And he was so
good replacing Blackmore. I mean, he really did
good. Is Lou Reed still alive? I have a feeling
he's not alive anymore. But Lou Reed would be
another really interesting person to hear tell
their stories. Oh, we have them. Yeah, but I
have the impression that Lou Reed passed away.
I don't know. For some reason, I think I do.
Lou Reed. I also read that Bill Shatner gets
zero. 2013, he died. Yeah, 12 years ago. I also
read the other day that Bill Shatner gets nothing
from Star Trek reruns. That's what I heard. Yeah.
Back then, people didn't really think about residuals
or putting in their contracts. Not like they
ripped them off. It's just people didn't think
it was worth it. They cut it, what, second season
or third season? They canned it. Yeah, I think
it was one of the commercial seasons. Yeah, and
there's not that many episodes of the original.
They went into movies after that. After it started
catching fire, then they decided to do movies
instead of doing that. Like Dawn Wells, who played
Marianne on Gilligan's Island. Of the whole cast,
she was the only one who had to put in her contract,
I'll take less per week per episode, but I want
to get paid on all the reruns. And she wound
up the richest of all of them. Oh, yeah. Just
based on that. And the rest of them were like,
jeez, I didn't know that was a thing. And the
studio really didn't think it was a thing. They're
like, this isn't going to amount to anything.
Yeah, yeah, don't worry about it. You want a
couple of cents every month? Yeah. Do it. But,
man, she wound up getting a lot of mailbox money.
Yeah, she had some foresight on that. The rest
of them didn't. Not surprising. She was the most
attractive person on that show. Oh, yeah, she
was by far. Oh, my gosh. I had so many adolescent
fantasies about Mary Ann. Oh, me too. The way
she tied that around her midriff. Oh, my God.
I wanted her to make me a coconut cream pie.
Oh, me too. Yep. My pearl wiener. Oh, my God.
I got a lot of abuse in her name. Her and Bernadette
Peters. Oh, my God. Yeah. She was something else.
That raspy, naughty voice of hers. When Steve
Martin started hooking up, I was like, you lucky
son of a bitch. Oh, I know, man. I started getting
hair on my fucking bag. Next thing I know, Bernadette
Peters is something special. And you all expected
to hear music. Yeah. Okay, how about, will Alice
in Chains ever put out new music? Yeah, I think
so. I think so, too. I think Jerry's still got
some Alice in Chains material left in him. They're
still intact. Yeah. They didn't break up. No,
they primarily just tour on their existing catalog,
but I can see him putting out... Rainier Fogg
was their last... As far as I remember, yeah.
He did play that guitar during the show. Yes,
he did, yeah. The black Telecaster with the Rainier
Fogg album art on the cover. That album I would
put against a lot of them. Yeah, yeah. I mean,
you wouldn't put it against... like Rooster or
Man in a Box, but I mean, it's different. It's
what it is. And I don't know if you could pick
a good one, you know, which is better because
they're too far different. Yeah. But there's
nothing wrong with that album at all. That album
was incredible. I still listen to it. All right.
Should Jerry Cantrell actually just center, should
he just focus on his solo career and maybe, you
know, be like Alice in Chains was nice? But it's
done? Uh, yeah, I would say not necessarily done,
but, like, bring Alice in Chains out every 60
months to a year to do some sort of show for
a reason or so. But, yeah, I'd say at this point
stick to your solo material. This solo band was
highly talented and very good. Yeah, boy, that's...
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I have one burning question for you all. Do people
really skip around the Maypole? The drummer was
pounding the crap out of his drums, wasn't he?
Oh my God, I love the drummer, yeah. And then
he comes out and plays guitar. Yeah. He turns
that way. What the fuck are you doing with a
guitar, man? You're a drummer. Yeah. And then
he had the coolest guitar up there, too. Yeah,
and a great big black star on it. Yeah, that
was cool. That was pretty awesome. Yeah, his
band is really good, and I would love to hear
them do more music. And I'd go watch them again,
would you? Definitely. Yeah. So that's all of
the bullet points. Okay. You have stuff. I mean,
it doesn't matter if it's music or not. If they
want to hang up, they can. All right. Well, I
remember a while back I did a story on the Douchebags
podcast about the Dyatlov 9. And I... Recently
learned some new information about that, so I'll
go over it. The original story was in January
of 1959, there were ten college students in the
former Soviet Union, and they decided to take
a ski trip to the Ural Mountains, which was going
to last a week to ten days. So ten of them set
off. One of them got sick the first night and
turned around and came back. The other nine went
on. and they never returned. So eventually a
search party went out to look for them, and what
they found was they found their campsite and
the main tent that they all shared, and it was
pitched on the side of a slope with the door
facing sideways along the mountain. So one side
of the tent was facing downhill, one side of
the tent was facing uphill. Sometime in the middle
of the night, they cut their way out of the tent.
They didn't untie the front. At least two different
people with two different knives cut their way
out the side of the tent, and they ran down the
side of the hill as fast as they could. They
left behind jackets. They left behind shoes.
One of them was even barefoot. They were running
for their lives from something. And they all
just ran, ran, ran. You can see the footprints.
I've seen photographs of it. They hit a downhill.
And they found two of them a couple hundred yards
down the hill by a stream where they had stopped
and built themselves a fire to try to stay warm.
And even though they huddled up so close to the
fire that one of them wound up cooking his own
foot, he still died of hypothermia. So they were
two dead there. As the spring thaw came, they
found the rest of the bodies. And a few of them
were missing, like eyes and their tongue, but
that was from wild animals and, you know, regular
decompositions. A couple of the bodies fell in
a stream. But the weird thing is, was internal
injuries without any external trauma. One of
the guys, there were two that had been crawling
uphill back towards their tent. And they made
it partway up the hill before dying. One of them
had multiple skull fractures. And the forensic,
the coroner or whatever at the time said, the
only way I can explain this type of injury is
being beaten repeatedly with a rifle butt. Wow.
Yeah. And another body was found in a tree. Now
you're out there freezing to death in the middle
of the night, and you don't have enough clothing.
Are you going to climb a tree? I don't think
so. Some of the others had started taking off
what little remaining clothing they had, which
could be a sign of hypothermia. There was another
who had multiple ribs fractured and his sternum
fractured, his breastbone, with absolutely no
sign on his skin of any kind of trauma whatsoever.
Wow. And again, the coroner said the only thing
that could cause this would be an explosive blast.
An explosive shockwave. A rifle butt and an explosive
blast. So they all died, and several of them
had a really weird cocktail of really unusual
and very much man -made radioactive elements
all over the clothing. And originally they tried
to explain it away. They said, oh, well, they
worked at the university in the nuclear reactor
lab. No, that doesn't wash it, does it? They
did find the camera of one of them and developed
the film they could find. They could do it. And
there was a lot of pictures of them just doing
normal things and having fun and, you know, just
doing their regular stuff. The last picture on
the roll was the middle of the night. It was
out of focus. And it looked for all the world
like someone standing and taking the picture
with all of his friends standing in front of
him. You could see the tops of their heads. And
up in the black night sky is this giant white
searchlight flaring right at you. And that was
the last picture on the roll of film. And what
I thought was a Soviet military helicopter coming
in. Oh, yeah, that's right. Yeah. So anyway,
in the aftermath of this, They declared that
what had happened was an avalanche had come down
the hill, and they heard the avalanche coming,
and it all ran for their lives, and they just
couldn't make it back to the tent. Then in 1989,
after the fall of the Soviet Union, somebody
found some records showing that four days before
these nine students were even due back, the military
went out exactly to that spot. to find out what
was going on. How in the world did they know
that anything needed to be looked at there unless
they already knew? So four days before they were
even overdue, the military went out in force
to that site. And what they actually did at that
point was fake up a lot of the area to make it
look like an avalanche, hide some evidence, plant
some evidence, this and that and the other. Why
would they kill them like that is what I don't
understand. Yeah. The local tribes that live
in those mountains said that night they remember
a lot of military vehicles. They could hear them.
They could see them in the air. And someone thought,
well, let's see if any of the other radiation
exposure is in the atmosphere or in the environment.
So they went and they found the grove of trees
nearby. where the students had camped, and they
cut the tree down and examined back through the
tree rings to find, you know, 1959's tree ring
and tested the wood there. No radiation. So it
wasn't in the area. It was specifically on these.
On these people. So that's where it sat for a
lot of years. It's like, what the hell happened
to these kids? Yeah. So the one I saw recently,
they went into more detail about this, and they...
They left out some things and they clarified
some things, but what it boiled down to was they
found more documentation from the military archives.
And there was a special military group who was
working with weapons for population control,
controlling large groups of people. And it involved
high volume, low frequency sound. which can be
used as a bludgeoning weapon, and exposure to
radiation, not in the form of a nuclear blast,
but just aiming radiation at you. Aiming at them.
Yeah. Now, a lot of other countries, including
the United States, have admitted, we looked into
these types of weapons, but we decided there
was better things we could do. So this technology
is real. Yeah, they have radiation. A lot of
countries have looked into this stuff. So this
special group, was in that area that night. Okay.
And they kept digging, and they found the commander
of that group had admitted in his diary that
when they showed up to that area to test out
their weapons, they found these students there
already. They thought, cool, test subjects. So
they just decided to test their weapons on them.
And here was a whole list of documentation of
all the individual nine students that were there,
all of their movements tracked and written down,
and where they died and how they died. It was
all there in the military archives from 1959.
Wow. So that's what had happened is the Soviet
military was going to test these weapons. A bunch
of students showed up. They said, cool, lab rats,
let's kill them and see how it works. And that's
exactly what they did and then covered it for
all these years. Wow. So that's what happened
to the Dyatlov 9. The military decided to test
their new weapon on them. So that explains the
horrible internal injuries without external trauma.
It was super loud, low -frequency sound waves.
Wow. And then the radiation was also to disorient
them, make them feel sick. It's pretty awful.
Horrible. Isn't it? Yeah. But it's Russia, so
the families aren't going to get any money. Oh,
no. They'll be like, yeah, that's too bad. But
who knows, do they even know the truth inside
Russia now? Probably not. They're probably suppressing
it. Just like I'm sure that other parts of the
world know the truth about some things that we're
still being lied to about. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah,
I'm sure. Do you want an Eric Clapton's a dickhead
story? Sure. Okay, I mean, since he's so good
at it. Yeah, he's gotten it down to a... Like
a lounge act. Yeah, he was like that. He could
teach a course on how to be a penis of a human
being. He would sell a lot of seats. I need to
be a bigger dick at work. Can you maybe help
me out, Eric? Yeah, I'll get this Eric Klapner
guy. Yeah, he's really good, man. Wait a minute,
are you an immigrant? Oh, okay, I'm sorry, you're
not allowed. Remember when that one attorney
general called him? Eric Clapner. Clapner, yeah.
Oh, I love Eric Clapner. I'm a big fan of Eric
Clapner. No, you're not. You never bought an
album, obviously, you dickhead. Now AI does that.
Clapner. That's funnier than hell. I think I
was Clinton's attorney general. The one that
suddenly wanted to legalize marijuana when her
son got arrested for smoking it. She'd always
hated it before, and all of a sudden, oh, let's
legalize it. There's nothing wrong with it. Because
my son just got arrested. I'll get to the clap
of the story here in a minute. Okay. I got a
reply here real quick. Something I've been trying
to do that does have to do with music, because
it's sound, is learning... what kind of power
sound has at decibel ratings. Like right now,
we're talking, this is probably about 60 decibels
right here. Imagine what 100 decibels sounds
like. That's like an airplane. Imagine what 200
decibels sounds like. I don't think you could
imagine because it would destroy your ears. I
think it was my son Jeffrey who told me there's
a sound level, I think it's around 1500 decibels,
that is enough energy that it would shake the
world apart. The planet would turn into dust
because of that much energy. Wow. Yeah, because
one decibel is more than just one decibel. When
you go up from like 60 to 65, it's not just five
more decibels, it's like ten times louder. It
goes up like the Richter scale does. A 6 .5 earthquake
is about 30 times stronger than a 6 .0 earthquake.
And decibels go up kind of on a logarithmic scale
like that. But there is a sound, just a few thousand
decibels would basically destroy the known universe.
That is just way too much energy to unleash.
Yeah, I could see that. Because once it stops
being sound energy, it becomes heat energy. And
that's a lot of heat. Yeah. We noticed how it
was heating up inside the venue Sunday night.
Oh, gosh, yeah. It was cold. It was almost cold.
Yeah. Then when it started showing up, it got
hot. Yeah. I mean, part of it was the people
because, you know, your average human being puts
about as much heat out as a 100 -watt light bulb
does. Yeah. But it's no longer the stage lights
because they're all LED. They're cool. But it
was the sound energy. Because, you know, once
it stops being sound, then energy turns into
heat. Yes. And it just warms the whole place
up. Yeah, and it did, too. But I'm going to look
up sound levels. Okay. Okay, the Clapton story.
It starts off like this. He said, yeah, what
are you going to do about it? You're a girl.
You don't have the money to fight this. Rita
Coolidge says Eric Clapton owes her a writing
credit for one of the most celebrated songs in
rock. The Grammy -winning singer helped pen the
piano coda that closes Layla, but was never credited
despite her pleas to the guitarist. More than
half of a century since the release of Layla,
one of the most iconic tracks in Eric Clapton's
and Rita Coolidge's... you know, career, is still
waiting to be credited for the outro's piano
lines. And that really makes the whole song.
It does, yeah. I wait through the beginning of
the song to get to that second part. Yes. Yeah,
me too. I agree. Clapton's own signatures, of
course, all over the 1970 track from Derek and
the Dominoes. Layla and the Other Assorted Love
Songs, an album with an intriguing backstory
of its own. The album is a uniquely personal
entry into Clapton's catalog, written and recorded
while the guitarist was in the thrones of longing
for Patty Harrison. Layla, the wife of his famous
Beatles pal, George, would be Harrison. He cleverly
disguised his identity by changing his name from
Eric to Derek. I know. Fooled us all, didn't
you, dude? Why don't you go with, like, Alfonso
and the dominoes? See, I'm going to hide. I'm
going to call myself Gopher, and no one will
ever be able to tell. Gopher. Or I'll be like
Superman and put on a pair of glasses and suddenly...
Somebody, you know, I'm Clark Kent, I'm not Superman.
Yeah, yeah, because you look so different with
a pair of glasses. That's an interesting point.
When Clark Kent went to the eye doctor and took
his glasses off, wouldn't his doctor immediately
know he's Superman? That's what I always thought,
too. Because I remember it used to be a big thing,
remember? Someone's coming over and you go, oh,
shit, my glasses. Yep. Or if he's in the shower,
you know. He looks just like Superman when he
takes his glasses off. Yeah, and even people
did that to him in the comics. You look just
like Superman when your glasses are off. Oh,
no, I don't. Oh, stop. I just have one of those
faces. Yeah, everybody thinks I'm somebody. One
person thinks I'm Walter Cronkite, you know.
Another one thinks I'm Joe Namath. That's crazy.
I'm thinking of names back then I don't fucking
know. All right. Paul Hardy. Yeah, Paul, yeah.
And now for the news. That guy was fun. Oh, yeah,
he was. I love his dramatic pause. I think that's
where Jim Rome learned to do his dramatic Rome
pause. Yes, yeah, it's quite similar. Yeah, that
and William Shatner and how he delivered his
lines. Yeah, I always thought that William Shatner
almost forgets his lines, and that's what happens.
Yeah, he can probably only remember two or three.
Spock, we need to get down to them. Planet surface
in. See what's happening. I almost thought it's
like that, but it's too contrived. But I really
thought, I think he's just forgetting his fucking
lines. And it takes him a minute to run through
it in his head. And then cut the cord on that
bottom sack. If you ever watched the first few
seasons of ER, when George Clooney was still
on it, a lot of the time he's spending with his
head down. Uh -huh. or he's looking off to the
side, and it was supposed to be like, oh, he's
shy or he's a little nervous or he's a little
insecure. No, he couldn't remember his lines,
and he'd stash pieces of paper around with his
lines on them. So he's looking down on the floor.
He's looking for his line, and he whips his head
to the right to look away. He's got a piece of
paper over there with his next line on it. So
he just made that part of his character. He's
like, I can't remember my freaking lines, man.
I'm just going to have to do this. So I'm just
going to be shy. Interesting. Same on that 70s
show. You see them looking down or looking under
stuff because that's where they hid their script.
Oh, but anyhow, the coda in the song on her final
outro, she's not looking for money or anything.
She just wants song credit because she wrote
that. And he won't give it to her because, well,
I mean, allegedly all this. But he's allegedly
a complete cocksmack. And judging by what I read
he said, I would have to agree. Yeah, I would
have to agree. Yeah, I think Eric Clapton has
always been all about himself and what's best
for him. Probably, eventually, if you look back
far enough, one of her ancestors probably moved
at least 50 feet in some direction, so Eric Clapton
would think she was an immigrant and hate her
for life. Okay, good, good. Allegedly. So I'm
from this side of the rock, and you're from that
side of the rock? Well, you're no good. Well,
you don't count. Yeah. You're less than human.
That side of the rock does not count. We need
to pass laws against your kind. Yes. Oh, man.
Derek, Eric. Eric, Derek, Derek, Eric. Eric,
Derek. I wonder if anyone ever called him Eric
in the Domino's just for the fuck of it. Eric
in the Clapton -O's. Or just how about Dickface?
Yeah. Dickface and the Dominoes. That is a great
song. Dickface and the Dominoes. Hey, who you
listen to? Dickface and the Dominoes. It sounds
a lot like Eric Clapton. You notice Eric Clapton
has a very, very weak chin. He generally grows
a beard to try to cover it. Yeah. But like that
politician Mitch McConnell. Oh, yeah. Who looks
like a turtle. The one that freaks us up all
the time. That's what Clapton looks like. He
doesn't have facial hair. He's got that... Basically
a disappearing chin. He was not the most attractive
guy. No, no. There again, if he wasn't who he
was, he probably would be, well, he'd probably
still be a virgin, actually. He would have never
got Patty Harrison. Yeah. Looking the way he
does and having the white supremacist attitudes
he does, if he weren't a musician, he would never
have gotten Lady. Oh, no, no, no, never. Never.
So. Let's see. What am I thinking? I don't know.
You got anything else? I'm kind of out of material
right now. There was something I was thinking
of when you were talking about that thing earlier.
Okay. That sounds pretty specific, doesn't it?
Yeah, it does. That thing? Oh, yeah, yeah, that
thing. Yeah, okay. Oh, well, I'll remember at
some point so we can just get back to it, I guess.
Okay. But, yeah, I'm pretty much all used up
at this point. Okay. How long have we got? I
don't know. Looks like an hour and a quarter.
All right. You got anything else you want to
talk about or you want to call it? My back hurts.
Can we talk about that for a second? No, let's
not talk about that. No, mine does too. We can
talk about that. Harley's from standing up at
the concert the other night. No, that's what
I was getting ready to say. It was killing us,
but we did it. Yeah, yeah. I almost sat down
too, and I'm like, I can't. I've got to just.
I sat down a couple times just to get my bearings,
but there were like three people standing up
for the opening act. And they must have never
turned around because they would have seen that
they were the only people in the entire place
standing up. And then there's that one person
off to the right who had their arms above their
head dancing to every single song of the opening
act. And I love it. Jerry Cantrell finally, he
said, hey, you know, maybe you could just put
your hands in front of you. And, you know, I
get that you're excited and you like it and we
love it. But, you know, maybe, you know, just
do that the rest of the show. Yeah. And she did.
And it was a very nice gesture from Jerry Cantrell.
He could see the people behind her who were like,
I can't see shit. Yeah, yeah. There was a concert
back in the 70s, maybe early 80s. Yeah, it would
have been early 80s. Frank Zappa came and played
at Municipal Hall. No, Memorial Hall Municipal
Auditorium. That's what they call it. It's an
auditorium. Auditorium, yep. And it's still called
that. It is still called that. But he came out
and everybody stood up and started screaming
and yelling. And he waited for it to die down
a little bit. And then he said, okay, everyone
sit down. Come on, just everyone go ahead and
sit down. So after a few seconds, everyone went
ahead and sat down. And he said, you paid for
those seats. You might as well use them. And
he said, now, this is a musical concert. This
is not target practice. So if you throw anything
at the stage, we're going to stop playing and
leave. And as long as that's understood. And
the whole audience was like, cool, man, whatever.
And nobody stood up and nobody threw anything.
Because they respected the band and the artist.
This is what he wants. Okay, we're not going
to be an ass. Wouldn't work now. Wouldn't work
at all. Not at all. Not at all. It was like you
get the example of Philly's Karen, who went and
yanked that baseball away from that kid. Oh,
yeah, that was atrocious. Yes. Like a couple
weeks later, there was a Japanese baseball player
who hit a record -setting home run. And a woman
in the crowd caught the ball. And other people
wanted to see it, so she just handed it to them.
And then other people wanted to see it, so they'd
pass it. That ball got passed around the whole
stadium for the rest of the game. But as the
game was winding down, it made its way back to
her, and she got the ball back. That's incredible.
No one even considered stealing it. In America,
the first person who got it was like stuffing
it down their pants and running for the exit.
Yes. In Japan, they don't do that. They respect
each other too much. They're not going to do
that. It's a totally different culture. And there
are other cultures. If you see a single woman
on the street, you're supposed to beat her up
and throw her in the ditch or something. And
we're not like that. So I'm not saying America's
horrible. It's just different. Yeah, we're different.
In America, we've been trained to, if you can
get something for nothing, do it no matter what.
If you can get away with something, do it no
matter what. I don't want to get away with stuff.
I don't want to get away with murder or speeding
or driving drunk through a school zone. I don't
care about getting away with something. No, me
neither. Yeah. So it's refreshing to be in a
crowd of people who kind of get it, and we're
there to listen to the music, and no one's trying
to flex on anybody, and everyone is pretty much
leaving everyone alone. There were no fights.
There were no arguments. Never saw even a whiff
of security. It was just nice. Yeah. It was pleasant.
Yep, I agree. What was I going to say now? I
was posting for this because I forgot to. We
haven't posted in a while. I told everyone to
come on down because we're almost done. Show
up. We won't be here. But on there, I put all
my signature on that like I do whenever I do
when we do a podcast at home. At the very end,
I always put it's over there. No explanation.
No, Victoria, you must have put your lips on
it. It sounds dirty. It doesn't mean a thing.
Nope, it doesn't. But, yeah, the funny thing
is, I mean, it doesn't mean anything at all because
someone during the course of the day needs to
know where something is. Yeah. And someone always
goes, oh, I think it's over there. Yeah. And
that's where it originated. I'm like, okay, well,
I guess we're going to be over there. It's over
there. Whatever you're looking for, it's over
there. It's over there, yes. So I'm helping everybody
out while posting for us. So. Let's see. This
shit, I don't know what else. I don't know. Might
be time to go get a nice cold drink of water
somewhere. Let's do that. All right. Thank you
guys for listening. Our listenership is way up.
We really, really appreciate it. We do. You guys
are the best. And go fuck yourself.