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Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps

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Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This

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is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. Sepultura

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guitarist Andreas Kaiser spoke about the band's

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plans to release new music with Sepultura's current

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touring drummer, 23 -year -old Grayson Neckerman,

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who officially replaced Sepultura's longtime

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drummer, Elroy Casagrande, in February 2024.

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He said, as transcribed by blabralt .no, we recorded

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four new songs with Grayson on drums. I don't

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think anybody knows that, but there you go. We

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have four new songs, and we have the intention

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next year to release them in an EP. This is Johnny

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Rohypnol. That was your music news, and remember,

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bar chords are bullshit. You got something you

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want to lead off with? I got bullet points. I

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got a couple of stories. I don't know if this

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is still relevant, but I think it's kind of sad

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and depressing that Roger Waters continues to

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try to defend himself and claim that he did nothing

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wrong and it was all the drummer's fault and

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everyone's lying but him. It's just kind of sad

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at this point. Roger Daltrey or Roger Waters?

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I'm sorry, Roger Daltrey. Oh, okay. So we've

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got two bad Rogers. I'm just winning on Roger

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Waters. But yeah, Roger Daltrey is still whining

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about it wasn't my fault and the drummer is too

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loud. Yeah. Concerning what The Who used to be,

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I mean, they were kind of punk before they were

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punk. Yeah, he's really become a whiny bitch.

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Yeah, it's... Very unbecoming for someone like

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Roger Daltrey, and that should never happen.

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You know, as far as I'm concerned, he should

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have just been like, you know what, it was a

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mistake no matter who did it. Yeah. Whatever,

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you know. Imagine how different things would

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be if he just said, oh, well, you know, things

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happen, it's live music, oh, well, and then just

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leave it at that. Yeah, he should have. Yeah.

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God. Yeah, but doing that whining bitch stuff

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is so unbecoming. People hate that. I hate it.

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You hate it. And the only reason I'm bringing

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it up is because Roger Daltrey is still bringing

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it up. I know. But good on Pete Townsend. He's

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moved on totally. He's like, I'm already making

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plans for my next thing. It's like, I'm going

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to go ahead with this. Yeah, he gave up on doing

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the Who stuff. He says right now it's not going

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to work because Daltrey is a babbling fool. There's

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no way. It was iffy before, but now it's just

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like, nah, forget it. Yeah, so now he's kind

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of like, oh, I got these projects going on. I

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think that's awesome. He's just kind of like,

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as soon as we finish this, I got this and this

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going on. Yeah, I think that will wind up being

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the last performance of The Who. I think so.

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I think so. And Zach Starkey, coincidentally,

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I think I told this on the last Music Creeps

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was. His biggest regret was not joining Black

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Sabbath back in 2003. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he would

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have been awesome. He would have. He would have

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fit in great. Yeah, he would have brought a little

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more of that 70s out of control vibe back to

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Ozzy. Yeah, I was getting ready to say that Ozzy

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would have him on speed dial every day. Hey,

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do you think you could call Paul today? Hey,

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how about Ringo? Can you call your dad? Hey,

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tell him I said hi, will you? I'm right over

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here. Tell him I said hi. Oh, it could have been.

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Like Davey said, there's a rumor that Paul McCartney

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sang Let It Be at Ozzy's Graveside. Oh, wow.

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And Davey said, I'll bet you Ozzy jumped up.

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But it turned out to be fake, fake news. But,

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man, it sounded great. His idol, yeah. So Roger

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Waters, let's talk about him too. Oh, that fucking

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idiot. Okay. You want to go ahead and go with

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it? His comments, pretty much? Yeah. In an interview,

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Roger Waters was expressing contempt and disdain

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for Ozzy and his entire career. Yeah. He described

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everything Ozzy did on TV as idiocy and nonsense.

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Yeah. And he... denigrated Ozzy's on -stage performance

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by jumping around in the antics and kind of crapped

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on his music. Just basically shitting all over

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Ozzy and his memory and his legacy. It just is

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so stunning to see Roger Waters do that of his

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own volition. What is he trying to accomplish

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by bringing so much hatred on himself? Yeah,

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you're talking one of the most beloved figures

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ever in music. Yeah. Right after he dies. Right

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after he dies. Everyone's still mourning. It's

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still very fresh. I love what Jack did as his

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son. Good for him. Yeah. Let me see if I can

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find the official tweet back after Roger Waters

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went off talking about what a boob that... Ozzy

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was and his whole legacy. Several options are

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Roger Waters really didn't know what he was doing,

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in which case he needs to be looked after and

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cared for. If he did know what he was doing and

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did it anyway, it shows that he doesn't care

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who he hurts. He just wants to hurt people to

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get attention. If he really thought it was going

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to be okay and it was going to just fly under

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the radar, he's delusional. I don't understand

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what he thought was going to work out in his

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favor by doing any of this. No, I don't either.

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And this is what Jack wrote back, okay? And it

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said, hey, at Roger Waters, fuck you. How pathetic

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and out of touch you become on his Instagram

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account. And he put this on Roger Waters' Instagram

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account after he trashed his dad, adding that

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his father, Ozzy Osbourne, always thought Waters

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was a cunt. And Osborne's response was in reaction

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to August 2025 interview where Waters dismissed

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Oz's music and cultural contributions, calling

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them idiocy and nonsense, like you said. Jack

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went on to say on that, thanks for proving my

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father right. He certainly did. He did. Now,

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okay, like you said, Roger Waters. Had a lot

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of stuff obviously happen to him in his childhood.

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Yeah. I'm not defending him. I can't stand the

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guy. I cannot stand him. No. Okay, but here's

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the deal. That, to me, screams of someone hurt

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inside so bad. Yeah. They can't stand to see

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someone get love and recognition. I think that's

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another big part of it. He thinks. I was better

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than Ozzy ever was. Why am I getting all this

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love and attention and adulation and acceptance?

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He'll never get it. Surly fucker. He'll never

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get it. He doesn't understand that you've got

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to give something back. You don't just stand

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there and receive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's

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a cry out. Yeah. Nobody takes me seriously anymore.

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Nobody cares that I used to be a huge rock star.

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Everyone looks at me as a broken -down, pathetic

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piece of raveled -up shit. I think the way we

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should all start referring to him now... Am I

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talking about Howard Stern or Roger Waters? Either

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one. Okay, all right. I think the way we should

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refer to Roger Waters from now on is, hey, didn't

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he used to play bass for David Gilmour? Yes.

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I think that should be the essence of Roger Waters'

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legacy. David Gilmour is bass player? Yep. That

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dumb one? His sometime bass player. Yeah. That's

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the best right there. That's the best. Well,

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let's take a moment to think about who would

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be the Roger Waters fan from this point on. What

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would a Roger Waters fan be like? Okay, number

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one, they've got to have tiny fists. Yeah, yeah.

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They've got to like kale. Yeah. Yeah, even though

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they don't even know what kale is. They've got

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to make sure they're okay with crapping on everything

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that isn't. bootlicking yeah yeah they think

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that seaweed is the perfect food yeah yeah um

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they look they look to roger waters to tell them

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what to think every day yeah yeah they listen

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to npr constantly um they donate to npr yes oh

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even worse yeah yeah I would say that's definitely

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a Roger Waters fan. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.

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Roger Waters fan is a person that thinks that

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we should all redistribute wealth, but not their

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own wealth. Yes, yes, yes, yeah. Oh, no, not

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mine, yours. Yeah, just like a great Ben and

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Jerry caper. We'll start giving back your land.

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Yep. See, a Roger Waters fan is the person who

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thinks... that we should have open borders and

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free immigration, yet they have seven illegals

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on their payroll. Yes. That's a Roger Waters

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fan. The whole theme of hypocrisy going. Yes.

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A Rogers Waters fan is a justice warrior, what

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do they call them? A right fighter. Yeah, yeah,

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yeah. They always have to be right. Yep, yep.

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And they always got to have a problem with something.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chronic complainer. Why do

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we put dogs on leashes? That's cruel. Yeah. Well,

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maybe so they don't get hit by a car. No, they're

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supposed to be able to run around because they're

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a dog. Yeah, and they want to ban cars so dogs

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can run free. Dogs are... Cars are evil. Roger

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Waters fan is a person who thinks that they're

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right about everything and everyone else has

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just got shit for brains. Yeah, yeah. That's

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a Roger Waters fan. Yeah, and whenever you tell

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them something that makes sense, they won't answer.

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Fingers in the ears, stomping on the ground.

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Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right, well, I've got

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lead singer fight, fist fight. I've got lead

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singers pitted up against each other. This could

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be fun. And I want to know who's going to win

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this and why. Okay. The first one is Robert Plant

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versus Mick Jagger. Wow. I'm going to say Mick

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Jagger. I think Mick Jagger, yeah. I think Mick

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Jagger would fight dirty. I think he'd win. I

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think he'd smack me in the head and go, stop

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me up. Stop me up, I never stop. And then hit

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him again. I could definitely see that happening.

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Yeah. I'm going to write down some. Oh, okay.

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That's cool. How about Axl Rose versus Dave Mustaine,

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Battle of the Gingers? Whoa. I think I'd go with

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Dave. I would, too. The ex -heroin addict has

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got a mean streak. Devil worshiper. Yeah. Yeah.

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He's definitely got a mean streak. Oh, and he

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also had throat cancer and survived. Yeah. Yeah.

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Dave Mustaine would murder him. I mean, like...

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If they started fighting last Friday, he would

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still be kicking his ass in the corner. Yeah.

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Every time Axel raised his head, he would jump

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back over there and kick him in the face and

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go, get back down, bitch. All right, the next

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one is James Hatfield versus Vince Neal. I think

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that's pretty... Hatfield. Yeah, here's why I

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said that. Vince Neal's Mexican, and they are

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known scrappers. Yeah. But I think James Hatfield's

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one of those... Not quite a country boy, but

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a sort of almost a good old boy. Almost like

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a good old boy. Yeah. I can see him hitting Vince

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Neal. Yeah. Yeah. If Vince Neal would be handing

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the mic to him to sing. Here, here, kickstart

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my heart, here. How about David Lee Roth versus

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Jon Bon Jovi? Wow. Got to go with the Jersey

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boy. Yeah. Bon Jovi, yeah. Because Dave Lee Roth

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would be looking in the mirror going, he didn't

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leave a scuff, did he? Yeah, he'd be yelling,

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not the face, not the face. Get me in my little

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silo, the one that everybody's making fun of

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in the spandex, the little wrinkly meat whistle.

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He's packing a gherkin. Yeah. It looks like a

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little meat thimble. Oh, my God. How sad. Oh,

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yeah. Of course, he'll tell you he's a grower

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and not a shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean,

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if you're going to do that, fucking throw a sock

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in there. Come on. Gosh. But no, no, no. He wants

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that little meat thimble to fucking show, I guess.

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All right. Next one. I like this one a lot. Ryan

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Johnson versus Bruce Dickinson. Ooh. That one

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right there, I think, is going to come down to

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like eight rounds. Yeah. And I think if Bruce

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Dickinson's going to outlast him because he was

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a fencer. Yeah, yeah. And he's in great shape.

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He's probably got some endurance. Yeah, he's

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got some endurance. I think that he'd be able

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to probably be much faster than Brian Johnson.

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Yeah, yeah, I could see that speed would be on

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his side. He's a little taller, too. He has better

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reach. If Brian Johnson could get near his nuts,

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it's over. It's over. Yeah. Brian Johnson will

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bite those motherfuckers off. Snap. Yeah. He'll

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be like, okay, okay, Brian, that's enough. Oh,

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I like this one. But, yeah, Ronnie James Dio's

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been resurrected. He's not in the ground, okay?

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He's still alive. He's still, he's immortal alive,

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okay? Uh -huh. In this alternate world. He never

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did die yet. Versus Rob Halford. I know. Now,

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can the little short guy beat the big gay guy?

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Yeah, I think so. I think so, too. But Rob Halford

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is a very tough gay guy. He is a very tough man,

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yes. I think I'm going to go with Rob Halford

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just a little. I think that, I don't know. But

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he was a scrapper, kind of skinny little guy.

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I think I'll go with Dio. He's like the little

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terrier that's running around between your legs

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and biting your ankles. He'd be jumping on his

00:15:35.600 --> 00:15:37.480
fucking shoulders and hitting him on the head.

00:15:37.679 --> 00:15:39.379
First he's just biting your ankles, and then

00:15:39.379 --> 00:15:41.259
he rips your hamstring out. You're like, ugh!

00:15:42.720 --> 00:15:48.539
I'm done for! Sorry, Rob. All right, how about

00:15:48.539 --> 00:15:52.519
Bruce Springsteen versus John Mellencamp? Mellencamp.

00:15:52.799 --> 00:15:56.000
Mellencamp, Indiana boy. Indiana versus New York,

00:15:56.059 --> 00:15:59.490
hell yeah. Yeah. John Millick had to go, hey,

00:15:59.549 --> 00:16:01.870
Bruce, come here, look at this. And then Bruce

00:16:01.870 --> 00:16:03.750
would go to look at it, and he thinks it's a

00:16:03.750 --> 00:16:05.409
watch, and he punches him in the face and goes,

00:16:05.450 --> 00:16:09.129
that's what. That's what, Bruce. And finally,

00:16:09.590 --> 00:16:14.250
Ozzy Osbourne, but before he passed away, obviously,

00:16:14.330 --> 00:16:17.090
before he had the park, and before he had the

00:16:17.090 --> 00:16:21.570
accident versus Ian Gillett. I'll go Ozzy. I

00:16:21.570 --> 00:16:23.169
go Ozzy too. Even though Ozzy is really kind

00:16:23.169 --> 00:16:26.169
of a peaceful, pacifist kind of guy, if he needed

00:16:26.169 --> 00:16:29.169
to, he could mess somebody up. I think he would

00:16:29.169 --> 00:16:31.809
go fucking monkey insane on them. Yeah. He'd

00:16:31.809 --> 00:16:33.909
start screaming like weird things and nobody

00:16:33.909 --> 00:16:36.710
knew what it was. He'd tap into that ant snorting

00:16:36.710 --> 00:16:41.870
Ozzy and let him loose. I snorted ants, man.

00:16:41.950 --> 00:16:44.070
I can kick your ass. He would make mongoloid

00:16:44.070 --> 00:16:47.659
noises and beat the shit out of them. He'd be

00:16:47.659 --> 00:16:50.159
like the guy in Altered States that starts mutating

00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:55.460
into different forms. Yeah. Well, I came up with

00:16:55.460 --> 00:16:57.740
a few while you were talking. Okay, cool. That's

00:16:57.740 --> 00:16:59.600
why I just kept going is because I've seen you

00:16:59.600 --> 00:17:00.940
writing. I'm like, all right, he's coming up

00:17:00.940 --> 00:17:03.820
with something. Sorry, I forgot to warn you about

00:17:03.820 --> 00:17:05.660
this. I just, like, wrote about it last night.

00:17:07.140 --> 00:17:09.819
It's fun doing a spur of the moment. Yeah. First

00:17:09.819 --> 00:17:15.569
battle, Hat Benatar versus Lizzie Hale. Oh. Pat

00:17:15.569 --> 00:17:18.970
Benatar is so tough. She is. She's small and

00:17:18.970 --> 00:17:22.109
wiry. Yeah, yeah. But so is Lizzie Hale. I think

00:17:22.109 --> 00:17:24.369
Lizzie would just pick up her guitar and smack

00:17:24.369 --> 00:17:26.329
Pat Benatar over the head with it and say, there's

00:17:26.329 --> 00:17:29.890
my best shot. I think so. I'm going to go with

00:17:29.890 --> 00:17:33.089
Lizzie. And I think Pat Benatar would go, okay,

00:17:33.170 --> 00:17:35.890
I'll see you. I'm going to run. I'm going to

00:17:35.890 --> 00:17:40.329
hide. I'm going to leave your side. It may well

00:17:40.329 --> 00:17:45.420
go fast. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Okay. Alright,

00:17:45.440 --> 00:17:48.400
I also had Rob Halford, but I had him going up

00:17:48.400 --> 00:17:51.539
against Lemmy. Oh, shit. I'm going to have to

00:17:51.539 --> 00:17:54.099
go with the guy, any guy that has warts on his

00:17:54.099 --> 00:17:56.160
face and embraces him, I'm going to go with Lemmy.

00:17:56.240 --> 00:17:59.420
I think Lemmy, yeah. At any point, Lemmy could

00:17:59.420 --> 00:18:01.480
have had a rat chew that thing off his face,

00:18:01.539 --> 00:18:03.720
but he decided not to. No, no, no. And I could

00:18:03.720 --> 00:18:05.700
see him beating the shit out of him going, kill

00:18:05.700 --> 00:18:12.369
by death. Kill by death. The sounds he makes

00:18:12.369 --> 00:18:14.970
when he's singing that song is fucking awesome.

00:18:16.210 --> 00:18:22.849
He was a unique talent, was he not? Listen to

00:18:22.849 --> 00:18:25.670
it. Google it. Whatever. I'm going to. Oh, my

00:18:25.670 --> 00:18:28.130
God. All right. Blast for the past. Johnny Rotten

00:18:28.130 --> 00:18:34.390
versus Joey Ramone. Oh. Joey Ramone's such a

00:18:34.390 --> 00:18:36.230
street fighter, but Johnny Rotten is fucking

00:18:36.230 --> 00:18:39.089
Johnny Rotten. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have

00:18:39.089 --> 00:18:40.910
to go with Johnny Rotten, even though I think

00:18:40.910 --> 00:18:43.869
Joey Ramone could probably kick about anyone

00:18:43.869 --> 00:18:46.809
else's ass, except Johnny Rotten. Yeah. Johnny

00:18:46.809 --> 00:18:49.410
Rotten would bite his nose off. He would. Yeah,

00:18:49.509 --> 00:18:53.029
he would jump up and just go, bite it off, spit

00:18:53.029 --> 00:18:55.809
it in his face, and ask him if he wanted more.

00:18:56.490 --> 00:18:58.609
I think I'm going to go with Joey Ramone because

00:18:58.609 --> 00:19:00.549
he'd get all his brothers to come in and beat

00:19:00.549 --> 00:19:04.009
the shit out of him with him. Yeah, yeah. Let's

00:19:04.009 --> 00:19:09.660
wobble stomp this guy. Okay, I can see either

00:19:09.660 --> 00:19:12.119
one of them happening. That's cool. All right.

00:19:13.200 --> 00:19:17.779
Elton John versus Boy George. Oh, Elton John.

00:19:18.400 --> 00:19:21.039
Elton John all the way. Yeah, absolutely. Not

00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:23.339
too difficult. Oh, yeah, Elton John would be

00:19:23.339 --> 00:19:27.259
like, hey, Mr. George, come here. I've got something

00:19:27.259 --> 00:19:28.940
to tell you. He gets ready to whisper in his

00:19:28.940 --> 00:19:31.420
ear, and he fucking hits him right in his membrane

00:19:31.420 --> 00:19:33.559
with his nose, with his palm, and kills him.

00:19:34.720 --> 00:19:36.680
He'll take his head and slam the piano's cover

00:19:36.680 --> 00:19:38.960
down. Yeah, that's it. He's going to curb stomp

00:19:38.960 --> 00:19:42.759
him on the piano. Piano stomping. Yeah, piano

00:19:42.759 --> 00:19:45.180
stomping. Come here, Mr. George. Yeah, yeah.

00:19:45.460 --> 00:19:50.440
Yeah, what are you? That's what I think, Mr.

00:19:50.559 --> 00:19:52.279
George. And then you hit him again because he

00:19:52.279 --> 00:19:55.480
knocked your piano out of tune. Yeah. Fucking

00:19:55.480 --> 00:19:57.240
bastard. Do you know how long I spent putting

00:19:57.240 --> 00:19:59.700
that in tune? You got makeup all over it. Damn.

00:20:00.009 --> 00:20:01.930
Yeah, you may not want to keep your teeth. I

00:20:01.930 --> 00:20:03.869
know stuff you're into, but if you do want to

00:20:03.869 --> 00:20:05.970
keep your teeth, I know a great dentist. There

00:20:05.970 --> 00:20:09.990
we go. Anyhow, go ahead. Allegedly. Allegedly.

00:20:10.750 --> 00:20:18.049
John Mayer versus Dave Matthews. Ouch. As much

00:20:18.049 --> 00:20:20.170
as it pains me to say, I think I'm going to have

00:20:20.170 --> 00:20:22.569
to go with John Mayer. I think so, too. Even

00:20:22.569 --> 00:20:27.819
though he's such a pompous twit. Yes. But Dave

00:20:27.819 --> 00:20:30.299
Matthews, I don't see Dave Matthews going, do

00:20:30.299 --> 00:20:34.259
you want some of my kale? No, I don't want your

00:20:34.259 --> 00:20:37.960
fucking kale. I think Dave Matthews is a decent

00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:41.839
actor. Yeah, but it ends about right there. Besides

00:20:41.839 --> 00:20:44.759
that, he shit on people. Yeah, that's true. He

00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:48.779
dumped his turds on people. People are down below

00:20:48.779 --> 00:20:52.599
the grid. You know someone had to look up and

00:20:52.599 --> 00:20:58.089
write his response. Damn. Anything involving

00:20:58.089 --> 00:21:00.569
bodily fluids is nasty, but that's even extra

00:21:00.569 --> 00:21:03.509
nasty. I mean, they did get a lot of money, but,

00:21:03.589 --> 00:21:06.349
I mean, still. There's no amount of money you

00:21:06.349 --> 00:21:09.170
could pay me to have anybody's crap dumped on

00:21:09.170 --> 00:21:11.990
me. They're looking up, you know, way in their

00:21:11.990 --> 00:21:15.329
nose and eye. You would never feel clean again.

00:21:15.650 --> 00:21:17.970
No. I mean, you could take nine showers a day

00:21:17.970 --> 00:21:19.970
for a year, and you'd never feel clean again.

00:21:20.309 --> 00:21:22.230
And every time you really stop and think about

00:21:22.230 --> 00:21:24.509
it, you almost vomit. You've got to eat more.

00:21:24.630 --> 00:21:26.450
Yeah. Just have to pretend you're a different

00:21:26.450 --> 00:21:30.460
person. All right, my final matchup. Ann Wilson,

00:21:30.599 --> 00:21:40.549
apart, versus Madonna and Gwen Stefani. Now keep

00:21:40.549 --> 00:21:42.910
in mind that recently Ann Wilson, who's battled

00:21:42.910 --> 00:21:45.789
cancer for a second time, and had her arm in

00:21:45.789 --> 00:21:49.250
a sling, sat on a stage in a wheelchair and belted

00:21:49.250 --> 00:21:50.930
it out and sounded like she did when she was

00:21:50.930 --> 00:21:52.869
25. I'm going to go with Ann Wilson. I'm going

00:21:52.869 --> 00:21:54.609
to go with Ann Wilson, even in the wheelchair

00:21:54.609 --> 00:21:56.589
and her arm in a sling. She would take Madonna

00:21:56.589 --> 00:22:00.190
and shove him up Gwen Stefani's ass. And then

00:22:00.190 --> 00:22:02.190
she would pick up Gwen Stefani by the ankles

00:22:02.190 --> 00:22:05.069
and smack Madonna with her. Yeah. Like a baseball

00:22:05.069 --> 00:22:08.589
bat. Yeah. And then she'd order them both the

00:22:08.589 --> 00:22:11.990
fuck out. Yes. Call them a barracuda and tell

00:22:11.990 --> 00:22:19.349
them to leave. Yeah. Perfect. Awesome. I saw

00:22:19.349 --> 00:22:21.829
a video recently about Jerry Cantrell of Alice

00:22:21.829 --> 00:22:23.930
in Chains and his live rig. Which we might go

00:22:23.930 --> 00:22:26.609
to because tickets are so low, or at least they

00:22:26.609 --> 00:22:28.670
were. Yeah, we'll have to check again because

00:22:28.670 --> 00:22:31.710
that sounds like an awesome show. Yeah. But I've

00:22:31.710 --> 00:22:33.589
seen a number of these videos. It's the live

00:22:33.589 --> 00:22:37.869
rig rundown. I saw the one for Angus Young of

00:22:37.869 --> 00:22:41.930
ACDC, and I learned that I have one of the same

00:22:41.930 --> 00:22:44.589
guitars as him. Oh, really? You've got an SG?

00:22:44.869 --> 00:22:49.309
A black Gibson SG Standard 61 reissue. Okay.

00:22:49.529 --> 00:22:52.049
There's a unique story about it, and also, Tony,

00:22:52.130 --> 00:22:55.190
I owe me two about playing SGs. They went to

00:22:55.190 --> 00:22:57.569
him because they were easier, the frets were

00:22:57.569 --> 00:23:00.900
easier, I think. Yeah, yeah, the whole neck is

00:23:00.900 --> 00:23:04.740
shifted farther away from the body, so it's easier

00:23:04.740 --> 00:23:06.700
to reach higher up the neck. They both wanted

00:23:06.700 --> 00:23:10.539
a Les Paul sound, but they didn't like the stock,

00:23:10.759 --> 00:23:13.579
I believe is what the story is. Les Pauls are

00:23:13.579 --> 00:23:16.640
heavy. Yeah, yeah, and they like the SG. The

00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:20.119
SG had a close enough sound with the right electronics

00:23:20.119 --> 00:23:23.099
behind it, you know, so they're like, that's

00:23:23.099 --> 00:23:25.319
why they both play SGs, and other musicians do

00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:29.140
too. Yep, Frank Zappa, Derek Trucks. Yeah. Leslie

00:23:29.140 --> 00:23:31.819
West of Mountain. Leslie West of Mountain, yeah.

00:23:32.619 --> 00:23:37.720
And he had an incredible tone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay,

00:23:37.819 --> 00:23:42.779
anyhow. So they were running down Jerry's live

00:23:42.779 --> 00:23:50.559
rig, and his three main guitars are G and L.

00:23:51.799 --> 00:23:55.220
He didn't say the model. of the guitar, but he's

00:23:55.220 --> 00:23:58.319
got two of the exact same. Who makes those? G

00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:02.779
&L was Leo Fender's third company. Okay. I knew

00:24:02.779 --> 00:24:05.299
there was a story there. Leo Fender started Fender,

00:24:05.380 --> 00:24:09.599
and then in the 70s he sold it to CBS. He's Freddy

00:24:09.599 --> 00:24:15.420
Fender's brother. Yes. And then he started Music

00:24:15.420 --> 00:24:18.740
Man with another person, ran that for a while,

00:24:18.799 --> 00:24:22.099
sold it to somebody, and then started G &L. And

00:24:22.099 --> 00:24:25.200
he's L. He's Leo. He has the L and G and L. Oh.

00:24:25.700 --> 00:24:28.059
But since he's Leo Fender, he can make guitars

00:24:28.059 --> 00:24:30.859
that look exactly like Stratocasters and Telecasters,

00:24:30.880 --> 00:24:34.019
and nobody can say anything because he invented

00:24:34.019 --> 00:24:37.900
them. He invented them. Yeah. So Jerry was working

00:24:37.900 --> 00:24:42.740
in a music store, and he saw this guitar. It's

00:24:42.740 --> 00:24:45.259
kind of like a Super Strat with one pickup and

00:24:45.259 --> 00:24:49.980
a Floyd Rose wiggle stick. and it was on sale

00:24:49.980 --> 00:24:52.920
for $800, so he saved the $800 and bought it.

00:24:52.980 --> 00:24:54.779
And then like a month later, another one came

00:24:54.779 --> 00:24:57.259
in that was very, very, very, very similar, same

00:24:57.259 --> 00:24:59.700
model and everything. So he put that one on a

00:24:59.700 --> 00:25:02.420
layaway and bought that one too. So he has two

00:25:02.420 --> 00:25:04.299
of the exact same model, but they have different

00:25:04.299 --> 00:25:06.740
pickups in them. He's changed out the pickups.

00:25:07.240 --> 00:25:10.960
And then he's got a Gibson Les Paul that he took

00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:13.539
a torch and burned little leopard spots all over

00:25:13.539 --> 00:25:17.079
it. which looks pretty distinctive. Okay. And

00:25:17.079 --> 00:25:21.259
he said those three guitars are 90 % of what

00:25:21.259 --> 00:25:23.660
you hear live and 90 % of what you hear on the

00:25:23.660 --> 00:25:26.460
record. No kidding. Yeah. Okay. And then he's

00:25:26.460 --> 00:25:29.680
got, you know, some Telecaster looking ones and

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.720
he's got a Gibson Flying V that was given to

00:25:32.720 --> 00:25:34.680
him and some other stuff. But he said these three

00:25:34.680 --> 00:25:37.990
ones, the first one he called Blue Dress. Because,

00:25:37.990 --> 00:25:40.009
I guess, of the design. I thought it was named

00:25:40.009 --> 00:25:43.470
after Monica. I guess. And then the second one

00:25:43.470 --> 00:25:48.369
was called No War. But he referred to them by

00:25:48.369 --> 00:25:50.430
their nicknames instead of their model names.

00:25:50.990 --> 00:25:54.809
Okay. All right. But then they went over to his

00:25:54.809 --> 00:25:59.720
amplifier rig. Uh -huh. And what he uses is Bogner

00:25:59.720 --> 00:26:03.500
preamps. And he called them fish preamps. And

00:26:03.500 --> 00:26:05.579
they have an old design of a fish skeleton on

00:26:05.579 --> 00:26:07.039
them. I don't know if that's the real model name

00:26:07.039 --> 00:26:11.099
or not. They said they're not easy to find. But

00:26:11.099 --> 00:26:14.299
what he does is a total rack mount system. He

00:26:14.299 --> 00:26:17.140
has no combo amps, no amp heads sitting around.

00:26:17.240 --> 00:26:21.140
It's all in one big rack case. Like sliding in

00:26:21.140 --> 00:26:23.400
like components. And he had two Bogner preamps

00:26:23.400 --> 00:26:25.539
that he's had modified to give a darker sound.

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:30.279
It's got several power amps, EQ effects, just

00:26:30.279 --> 00:26:32.920
all sorts of stuff. But the thing that was most

00:26:32.920 --> 00:26:35.039
impressive to me is right in the middle of that

00:26:35.039 --> 00:26:38.839
big rack of all sorts of guitar goodness is a

00:26:38.839 --> 00:26:41.960
great big sticker that says, I'd rather be masturbating.

00:26:44.019 --> 00:26:46.680
And I thought, this is Jerry Cantrell of Alice

00:26:46.680 --> 00:26:49.700
in Chains. He's playing on stage to tens of thousands

00:26:49.700 --> 00:26:52.960
of screaming fans, and he'd still rather be masturbating.

00:26:53.930 --> 00:26:57.170
It shows you he's an average guy. He's just a

00:26:57.170 --> 00:27:00.670
regular guy. A regular guy. He's like, damn it.

00:27:01.329 --> 00:27:03.670
It sure would be nice to get some computer time

00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:08.589
away from these fucks. That impressed me about

00:27:08.589 --> 00:27:10.690
Jerry. He's definitely someone that does not

00:27:10.690 --> 00:27:12.490
take himself totally seriously. No, no, no. I

00:27:12.490 --> 00:27:16.309
love him because of that. And also, he's fantastic

00:27:16.309 --> 00:27:19.890
because, like we were talking on the way down

00:27:19.890 --> 00:27:23.500
here. He is the music. He is the reason Alice

00:27:23.500 --> 00:27:26.180
in Chains was Alice in Chains. Lane Staley was

00:27:26.180 --> 00:27:29.779
great. No doubt about it. But, I mean, it's kind

00:27:29.779 --> 00:27:31.900
of like Zach Wild doing Ozzy stuff, you know?

00:27:32.279 --> 00:27:35.259
There's not that big of a difference in the singing.

00:27:35.539 --> 00:27:38.380
Or Phil Collins filling in after Peter Gabriel

00:27:38.380 --> 00:27:41.160
left Genesis. They sounded the same. Yeah, it's

00:27:41.160 --> 00:27:46.660
so close that... You know, I don't see any problem

00:27:46.660 --> 00:27:49.779
with it at all, him just touring as Jerry Cantrell

00:27:49.779 --> 00:27:53.140
instead of Alice in Chains. Now, they still do

00:27:53.140 --> 00:27:55.500
tour as Alice in Chains, but it looks to me like

00:27:55.500 --> 00:27:57.380
they do festivals pretty much, and that's it.

00:27:57.440 --> 00:28:00.119
I think so, yeah. Yeah, where they could go out

00:28:00.119 --> 00:28:03.039
there and see like 10 ,000 people or more. Yeah.

00:28:03.180 --> 00:28:04.940
To where, like, he's going to be playing the

00:28:04.940 --> 00:28:08.460
uptown. And the tickets were going for $32 .50

00:28:08.460 --> 00:28:10.960
a couple of days ago. And I'm monitoring that.

00:28:10.960 --> 00:28:13.519
That's a steal. Yeah. If they stay somewhere

00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.440
in that ballpark, you and I are going next summer.

00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:19.240
Yeah. Even if there's no opening act. There is

00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:21.799
an opening act. I can't think of the name of

00:28:21.799 --> 00:28:25.099
it. Oh, well. But I don't even want an opening

00:28:25.099 --> 00:28:26.940
act. I'd rather just see Jerry Cantrell come

00:28:26.940 --> 00:28:30.660
out and play. Yeah. True. Hey there, slap nets.

00:28:30.779 --> 00:28:36.359
It's time for the Creeps Music News. Hey, my

00:28:36.359 --> 00:28:38.799
little pumpkin seeds. This is Johnny Rohypnol

00:28:38.799 --> 00:28:41.779
with your music news. During an appearance on

00:28:41.779 --> 00:28:44.140
July 8th episode of SiriusXM's Trunk Nation,

00:28:44.440 --> 00:28:46.880
Tony Omi spoke about some of his upcoming music

00:28:46.880 --> 00:28:49.319
-related projects, including a full -length collection

00:28:49.319 --> 00:28:51.180
of new material from legendary Black Sabbath

00:28:51.180 --> 00:28:54.920
guitarist. Tony said, as transcribed by Blabbermouth

00:28:54.920 --> 00:28:57.710
.net, Well, at the moment, I was doing my own

00:28:57.710 --> 00:28:59.609
album until Back to the Beginning event came

00:28:59.609 --> 00:29:02.250
up, and then of course I had to stop and concentrate

00:29:02.250 --> 00:29:05.150
on preparing for the Sabbath performance. But

00:29:05.150 --> 00:29:07.130
I'm continuing next week to try to finish off

00:29:07.130 --> 00:29:09.589
when I started with this album. And then who

00:29:09.589 --> 00:29:11.750
knows what I'm going to do. It's great, really.

00:29:12.150 --> 00:29:14.630
Because if something pops up, I'll do it if I

00:29:14.630 --> 00:29:17.210
want to do it. Asked if his upcoming album is

00:29:17.210 --> 00:29:19.829
a Tony Omi solo record with guests on it, like

00:29:19.829 --> 00:29:22.309
he's done before with the legendary 2000s IOMI,

00:29:22.390 --> 00:29:25.750
the guitarist responded, at the moment, no. I've

00:29:25.750 --> 00:29:27.789
got one singer on it, which I originally thought

00:29:27.789 --> 00:29:30.309
of different singers, but it started off as it

00:29:30.309 --> 00:29:32.269
was going to be an instrumental album, and it's

00:29:32.269 --> 00:29:34.789
gone from that into a full -fledged Tony Iommi

00:29:34.789 --> 00:29:37.430
project. But then I thought, oh, wait, I want

00:29:37.430 --> 00:29:39.730
to try it with a singer. So that's what I've

00:29:39.730 --> 00:29:42.730
been doing. This is Johnny Rohypnol. That was

00:29:42.730 --> 00:29:45.490
your music news, and remember, bar chords are

00:29:45.490 --> 00:29:51.460
bullshit. I've got to see his guitaring. I mean,

00:29:51.460 --> 00:29:53.180
you know he's going to be playing a lot of the

00:29:53.180 --> 00:29:56.559
classics. Yeah. You know, how about Angry Chair?

00:29:56.799 --> 00:29:59.019
Would you love to hear that live? That would

00:29:59.019 --> 00:30:01.400
be good. I never did get to see Alice in Chains

00:30:01.400 --> 00:30:04.400
live. I did. Because they kept canceling shows

00:30:04.400 --> 00:30:07.619
when I was able to go. I've seen them open up

00:30:07.619 --> 00:30:10.400
for Ozzy down in Lampy, Missouri. Wow. And I

00:30:10.400 --> 00:30:12.259
think I told you about that, the Hill Jacks that

00:30:12.259 --> 00:30:14.859
were jumping off the cliff. I was getting mad

00:30:14.859 --> 00:30:17.680
because I couldn't watch the show. It was too

00:30:17.680 --> 00:30:20.880
compelling. Yeah, my friend is a little male.

00:30:21.000 --> 00:30:24.720
She kept like nudging me going, hey, hey. And

00:30:24.720 --> 00:30:27.059
I'm like, oh shit, there's another jumper. I

00:30:27.059 --> 00:30:30.599
was relieved when they got up there. The security

00:30:30.599 --> 00:30:32.680
got up there, roped it off and stood in front

00:30:32.680 --> 00:30:35.119
of me. I was like, okay, good, good. Now I don't

00:30:35.119 --> 00:30:37.440
have to watch this anymore. Well, security ended

00:30:37.440 --> 00:30:39.460
up leaving and people ended up jumping again

00:30:39.460 --> 00:30:44.640
too. And I'm like, it was a great show. But I

00:30:44.640 --> 00:30:46.579
can't really tell you what happened. I wonder

00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:48.720
how many people are paralyzed now because they

00:30:48.720 --> 00:30:50.839
jumped off that sucker. A couple of them. I'm

00:30:50.839 --> 00:30:53.220
wondering if they're even alive. Oh, yeah. Oh,

00:30:53.259 --> 00:30:56.119
one guy was not moving. And his leg was, like,

00:30:56.160 --> 00:30:59.240
in a position it shouldn't be in. Wow. Compounding

00:30:59.240 --> 00:31:02.099
something. Yeah. It's weird that you can break

00:31:02.099 --> 00:31:05.740
your leg so badly that you die. That's a weird

00:31:05.740 --> 00:31:07.339
thing to think about. I'll tell you what, man.

00:31:07.400 --> 00:31:10.960
I think if that's what... If that happened there,

00:31:10.980 --> 00:31:13.980
it was that guy. Yeah. And he was like the first

00:31:13.980 --> 00:31:17.119
one that failed. The first three jumped and ran

00:31:17.119 --> 00:31:20.259
into the crowd. This guy. He didn't see the way

00:31:20.259 --> 00:31:22.480
they tucked and rolled. No, he did not. He didn't

00:31:22.480 --> 00:31:26.160
land on the soft spot. He landed crumpled. He

00:31:26.160 --> 00:31:28.000
just like crumpled. He didn't do like the other

00:31:28.000 --> 00:31:29.640
guys where they're like flat footed and went

00:31:29.640 --> 00:31:34.339
out to the crowd. But, no, Allison James was

00:31:34.339 --> 00:31:38.890
fantastic. I've also seen them. open up for metallica

00:31:38.890 --> 00:31:41.690
that would be good i've seen them open up for

00:31:41.690 --> 00:31:47.529
kiss that was a good show yeah and they always

00:31:47.529 --> 00:31:51.390
put on a great show a lot of energy uh lane staley

00:31:51.390 --> 00:31:53.990
was really really good but i would personally

00:31:53.990 --> 00:31:57.650
i like this version of it i loved his katarin

00:31:57.650 --> 00:31:59.750
the best out of all of it and i would love just

00:31:59.750 --> 00:32:03.150
these things are good enough for me yeah so so

00:32:03.150 --> 00:32:06.059
hopefully Hopefully the tickets will stay within

00:32:06.059 --> 00:32:07.900
range and we'll both go there and see a good

00:32:07.900 --> 00:32:10.660
concert. That'd be nice. Uptown's a pretty nice

00:32:10.660 --> 00:32:14.279
place as far as the acoustics go. It's a great

00:32:14.279 --> 00:32:17.339
place to hear. The last time I was there, they

00:32:17.339 --> 00:32:20.839
had a large number of very, very bright lights

00:32:20.839 --> 00:32:23.299
on the stage shining out into the audience that

00:32:23.299 --> 00:32:25.759
would wiggle around every few minutes. And that

00:32:25.759 --> 00:32:29.240
was to discourage you from videoing the concert.

00:32:29.920 --> 00:32:31.759
What was it? Who was it? It was Chris Isaac.

00:32:31.920 --> 00:32:35.220
It was his Christmas concert a couple years ago.

00:32:35.839 --> 00:32:39.420
But some of those lights are also designed to

00:32:39.420 --> 00:32:42.519
actually ruin your camera. If it goes directly

00:32:42.519 --> 00:32:45.099
into the lens, it will destroy your camera. So

00:32:45.099 --> 00:32:48.799
video at your own risk, I guess. And I imagine

00:32:48.799 --> 00:32:50.920
somewhere in the fine print on the ticket you

00:32:50.920 --> 00:32:52.960
bought, it says you agreed to it. Oh, well, sure.

00:32:53.200 --> 00:32:55.319
So don't worry about suing. You can't. It's not

00:32:55.319 --> 00:32:57.700
going to. You agreed to this, so get the fuck

00:32:57.700 --> 00:33:00.640
out of here. Businesses figure everything out

00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:02.559
in advance now. Oh, hell yeah, they do. Yeah.

00:33:04.099 --> 00:33:05.960
All right. Do you want to do some bullet points?

00:33:06.160 --> 00:33:09.920
I love bullet points. Okay. Will there ever be

00:33:09.920 --> 00:33:15.559
a resurgent in music you own? As in, like, you

00:33:15.559 --> 00:33:18.900
open it up, you got this beautiful poster, you

00:33:18.900 --> 00:33:21.220
got this artwork, you get to see who produced

00:33:21.220 --> 00:33:24.059
what, you get to see who guessed it on what?

00:33:24.220 --> 00:33:26.900
I think so. I think the physical form is definitely

00:33:26.900 --> 00:33:29.819
going to come back. It's never going to be like

00:33:29.819 --> 00:33:33.200
it was. No, not, no. But I think people are seeing

00:33:33.200 --> 00:33:36.059
there are some limitations to this digital music.

00:33:36.099 --> 00:33:38.079
Number one, the audio quality is not there. It's

00:33:38.079 --> 00:33:41.460
horrible. Number two, you always have to go through

00:33:41.460 --> 00:33:44.019
somebody that you're paying in order to get access

00:33:44.019 --> 00:33:47.319
to music you supposedly already own. Yeah, but

00:33:47.319 --> 00:33:49.500
you don't ever own it, and you always have to

00:33:49.500 --> 00:33:51.779
re -ask for permission anyway. It's bullshit.

00:33:51.900 --> 00:33:54.559
Yeah, and every time they say, oh, problem with

00:33:54.559 --> 00:33:57.140
your account, create a new password, that's so

00:33:57.140 --> 00:33:59.640
they can get you to sign new terms of service

00:33:59.640 --> 00:34:03.119
and give up more of your rights. And there's

00:34:03.119 --> 00:34:06.519
also the problem with... Music can disappear

00:34:06.519 --> 00:34:08.699
that way. If you don't own the physical form

00:34:08.699 --> 00:34:10.980
of it... And it has disappeared. Yeah, Motley

00:34:10.980 --> 00:34:13.800
Crue is erasing that album that John Karabi sang

00:34:13.800 --> 00:34:17.460
on All But One Song. I'm so happy. Most places,

00:34:17.599 --> 00:34:20.519
you just can't find that. I got that in Quaternary,

00:34:20.559 --> 00:34:24.619
both. Yeah. Quaternary was a little five -episode,

00:34:24.619 --> 00:34:27.800
five -song EP. that they did with John Carabi,

00:34:27.880 --> 00:34:30.960
too. And it's very, very good. And you can only

00:34:30.960 --> 00:34:34.139
get it by buying the CD and sending off for it

00:34:34.139 --> 00:34:38.300
in the mail. This is 1995. You could have went

00:34:38.300 --> 00:34:40.599
to the Internet and ordered it, maybe. Not that

00:34:40.599 --> 00:34:43.119
I knew of, but the only way I knew of ordering

00:34:43.119 --> 00:34:46.980
it, you open up that CD that sold 10, and you

00:34:46.980 --> 00:34:49.500
grab that thing, and you send it in and buy it.

00:34:49.599 --> 00:34:55.489
Yep. So... Here's a parallel. Back in 76, 77,

00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:59.110
when Star Wars came out and was a big deal, they

00:34:59.110 --> 00:35:01.230
still didn't realize exactly what they had on

00:35:01.230 --> 00:35:03.110
their hands. So the following Christmas, they

00:35:03.110 --> 00:35:05.550
had a Star Wars Christmas special, a holiday

00:35:05.550 --> 00:35:10.329
special. Oh, that was disgusting. Oh, it's the

00:35:10.329 --> 00:35:12.449
worst piece of garbage and crap. Didn't he have,

00:35:12.489 --> 00:35:17.840
like, Art Carney? Yeah, just old, old comedians

00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:20.820
that were popular in the 40s. Yeah. It was just

00:35:20.820 --> 00:35:25.000
so immensely out of touch, and they started changing

00:35:25.000 --> 00:35:28.539
Star Wars lore left and right. Was Bea Arthur?

00:35:28.760 --> 00:35:31.119
I think Bea Arthur was in it, and maybe Art Carney.

00:35:31.280 --> 00:35:33.760
Yeah. Those were the ones that you could get

00:35:33.760 --> 00:35:36.420
cheap. I think Paul Lind was in it. Paul Lind

00:35:36.420 --> 00:35:41.300
was probably, yeah. After it aired... Oh, Chewbacca's

00:35:41.300 --> 00:35:44.579
wife? Yes, and his kids. And they were sitting

00:35:44.579 --> 00:35:49.260
around having Wookiee Christmas. Yes. I wonder

00:35:49.260 --> 00:35:52.599
if there was a Wookiee Jesus. I don't know. I

00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.159
can't remember. But I remember I was young and

00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:56.880
thought that would suck. I'm like, oh, this is

00:35:56.880 --> 00:35:59.679
stupid. After it aired, George Lucas went out

00:35:59.679 --> 00:36:02.380
and he bought every physical copy he could find.

00:36:03.119 --> 00:36:05.559
And he pulled them all from video rental stores

00:36:05.559 --> 00:36:08.860
and warehouses. He's like, I want every copy

00:36:08.860 --> 00:36:10.539
of this found and destroyed. He didn't get every

00:36:10.539 --> 00:36:13.360
one of them. He thought he had, but there's still

00:36:13.360 --> 00:36:15.019
some that survive. You can go on YouTube and

00:36:15.019 --> 00:36:17.000
watch either parts of it or the whole thing.

00:36:17.179 --> 00:36:20.360
But still, that's something that they can digitally

00:36:20.360 --> 00:36:23.300
remove now. Yeah, and it pisses me off because

00:36:23.300 --> 00:36:26.800
you already bought it. And then like Motley Crue,

00:36:26.840 --> 00:36:29.300
Motley Crue, you're not going to get it online

00:36:29.300 --> 00:36:33.300
anymore. And even if it's on your phone, they'll

00:36:33.300 --> 00:36:36.460
reach into your phone and erase it. If you've

00:36:36.460 --> 00:36:39.039
got it on like a memory stick or something. Isn't

00:36:39.039 --> 00:36:40.780
that crazy? The first time you plug that into

00:36:40.780 --> 00:36:44.739
something connected, it'll get erased. And that's

00:36:44.739 --> 00:36:47.900
why everything is connected now. So they always

00:36:47.900 --> 00:36:50.119
can keep track of what you're doing and what

00:36:50.119 --> 00:36:51.579
you're listening to and what you're watching.

00:36:51.659 --> 00:36:53.619
And then they can take away the things to make

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:55.760
you buy the new. It's complete bullshit is what

00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:57.420
it is. I think people are catching on to that

00:36:57.420 --> 00:37:00.300
eventually. It's like it's expensive. to constantly

00:37:00.300 --> 00:37:02.480
be streaming and if you lose service, I mean,

00:37:02.500 --> 00:37:04.360
if there's a blackout, you're done. You're not

00:37:04.360 --> 00:37:06.840
getting anything. No, I agree. But, you know,

00:37:06.840 --> 00:37:09.340
I've got a battery pack. I can fire up a turntable

00:37:09.340 --> 00:37:13.679
and listen to music. Yep. So I think if physical

00:37:13.679 --> 00:37:20.280
form of music is going to come back and the fashionable

00:37:20.280 --> 00:37:23.119
and the trendy and the people who love the latest

00:37:23.119 --> 00:37:25.159
buzzwords, they're going to be the ones who stick

00:37:25.159 --> 00:37:28.920
with digital. Yeah, I agree. They'll value convenience

00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:31.380
over everything. Those are the ones that are

00:37:31.380 --> 00:37:33.460
going to stick with digital. No, whenever I buy

00:37:33.460 --> 00:37:36.320
a new CD, I make sure that it includes a digital.

00:37:36.320 --> 00:37:38.900
That way I've got them on both. I've got the

00:37:38.900 --> 00:37:42.980
physical and I've got the electronic. All right.

00:37:43.719 --> 00:37:46.920
Is image even a thing in rock music anymore?

00:37:47.920 --> 00:37:50.300
No, I don't think so. It isn't, is it? No. I

00:37:50.300 --> 00:37:52.940
think image is important in pop music. But not

00:37:52.940 --> 00:37:57.500
rock. And in R &B and hip -hop. Even country.

00:37:57.800 --> 00:38:01.539
And definitely in country. Remember those old

00:38:01.539 --> 00:38:03.840
hip -hop songs where they would intentionally

00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:06.500
use an auto -tune and make it very, very, very

00:38:06.500 --> 00:38:09.280
obvious? Yes. So it sounded all weird and phasy

00:38:09.280 --> 00:38:12.869
while they rapped? I turned to a country station

00:38:12.869 --> 00:38:15.170
a couple days ago, and that's what was on. They

00:38:15.170 --> 00:38:18.050
did auto -tune? It was supposedly a country song,

00:38:18.210 --> 00:38:19.389
but there was that. Were they stretching the

00:38:19.389 --> 00:38:23.570
voice? Yep. Yep, just like they used to do in

00:38:23.570 --> 00:38:26.150
the 90s with hip -hop. Now they're doing it with

00:38:26.150 --> 00:38:29.650
modern country. Modern country is shit. It's

00:38:29.650 --> 00:38:32.670
just such an embarrassment. That is. It's awful.

00:38:33.170 --> 00:38:36.230
But, you know, that's an example of what happens

00:38:36.230 --> 00:38:39.269
to something when it's gotten a hold of by people

00:38:39.269 --> 00:38:42.719
who only care about money. Yeah. They will destroy

00:38:42.719 --> 00:38:45.340
the legacy and history of something to milk every

00:38:45.340 --> 00:38:47.239
dollar out of it, and then they'll throw the

00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.920
carcass aside and say, what can we rape next?

00:38:50.219 --> 00:38:53.880
Yeah, yes. So right now it's modern country.

00:38:53.940 --> 00:38:56.139
Who knows what genre they're going to pick next.

00:38:56.460 --> 00:38:59.159
Oh, they give you the double barrel. They don't

00:38:59.159 --> 00:39:03.900
care. All right. What rock star do you think

00:39:03.900 --> 00:39:07.659
aged well? I'm going to say Robert Plant. Yeah,

00:39:07.679 --> 00:39:14.690
I think Plant aged. Really well. Mickey Six.

00:39:16.110 --> 00:39:18.750
Yeah. Even though I think he, personally, I don't

00:39:18.750 --> 00:39:21.769
care for him anymore. Yeah. I think he aged pretty

00:39:21.769 --> 00:39:24.929
well. And Wilson, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Good

00:39:24.929 --> 00:39:30.610
point. Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson, yeah. Jeff

00:39:30.610 --> 00:39:32.940
Lynn. Jeff Lynn, yeah. I think he's still putting

00:39:32.940 --> 00:39:34.480
out stuff, but he started back in the 60s. Yeah,

00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:36.599
he's no longer touring, but he's still putting

00:39:36.599 --> 00:39:39.840
stuff out. Yeah, he's retired ELO in that brand,

00:39:39.920 --> 00:39:41.440
and now everything I think is just going to be

00:39:41.440 --> 00:39:44.159
Jeff Lynn from now on. Oh, so he'll tour under

00:39:44.159 --> 00:39:46.440
Jeff Lynn? I think he'll put out music under

00:39:46.440 --> 00:39:48.219
Jeff Lynn, but I don't know if he'll tour anymore.

00:39:48.219 --> 00:39:49.539
You don't know if he's going to tour? Yeah. I

00:39:49.539 --> 00:39:51.940
hope he does, because I tried to see him, but

00:39:51.940 --> 00:39:55.340
I just couldn't. Keith Richards, because he's

00:39:55.340 --> 00:39:57.800
alive. He aged well. Well, he's stayed the same

00:39:57.800 --> 00:40:00.699
for 100 years now. Yeah. He looks the same. Yeah.

00:40:01.179 --> 00:40:04.199
So, yeah, I would agree. You know, back when

00:40:04.199 --> 00:40:07.039
the first cave person banged one rock against

00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:09.300
the other and produced a musical note, Keith

00:40:09.300 --> 00:40:11.539
Richards was there and said, cool, man, can you

00:40:11.539 --> 00:40:16.659
make a guitar? I'll tell you else, though. Sebastian

00:40:16.659 --> 00:40:20.019
Bach aged well. Yes, he did. He still looks cool.

00:40:20.239 --> 00:40:24.900
Yeah. He can have the long hair rocker look and

00:40:24.900 --> 00:40:29.260
the tight pants, and he still looks good. None

00:40:29.260 --> 00:40:32.900
of the guys from Spinal Tap. No. I got to tell

00:40:32.900 --> 00:40:35.760
you, when Spinal Tap first came out, what was

00:40:35.760 --> 00:40:38.719
it, 80s, 90s, whatever it was. Late 80s, I believe.

00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.699
It was fun. I watched it a couple of times. But

00:40:42.699 --> 00:40:46.400
I am so completely done with Spinal Tap and have

00:40:46.400 --> 00:40:49.699
been for decades. That all this latest Spinal

00:40:49.699 --> 00:40:52.440
Tap craze just looks ridiculous to me. It does.

00:40:52.599 --> 00:40:55.239
I'm glad people are enjoying it. It's nice that

00:40:55.239 --> 00:40:57.340
those guys are raking in some bucks again this

00:40:57.340 --> 00:41:00.039
late in life. But I really don't want anything

00:41:00.039 --> 00:41:02.340
to do with it. I'm not going to watch it. It's

00:41:02.340 --> 00:41:03.500
not going to be any good. To me, it's useless.

00:41:03.599 --> 00:41:09.800
Yeah, I agree. Should Tambourines even get a

00:41:09.800 --> 00:41:14.199
credit on an album? No. No. No. And neither should

00:41:14.199 --> 00:41:16.719
hand claps and stomps. Nope, those don't either.

00:41:16.860 --> 00:41:20.000
I agree. And someone that contributes one backing

00:41:20.000 --> 00:41:24.300
sound should not either. Now, belches and farts,

00:41:24.380 --> 00:41:26.679
yes. That's okay. That's fine. As a matter of

00:41:26.679 --> 00:41:28.280
fact, I prefer that. I want them to get first

00:41:28.280 --> 00:41:31.300
built. There's a famous Sex Pistols song called

00:41:31.300 --> 00:41:34.420
EMI, which was a record label that kind of screwed

00:41:34.420 --> 00:41:38.480
over the Sex Pistols. And on the final part of

00:41:38.480 --> 00:41:42.179
the song, Johnny Rotten snarls EMI in the microphone,

00:41:42.300 --> 00:41:43.800
then turns around and farts in the microphone.

00:41:48.280 --> 00:41:53.659
He's punk. Yeah, yeah, he is punk. What instrument

00:41:53.659 --> 00:41:59.940
do you consider the easiest to learn? Wow. Could

00:41:59.940 --> 00:42:02.420
it be a harmonica? Because anyone could pretty

00:42:02.420 --> 00:42:06.679
much master harmonica. You know, I think that's

00:42:06.679 --> 00:42:10.320
probably a good idea because while it's difficult

00:42:10.320 --> 00:42:12.900
to get really good at harmonica, pretty much

00:42:12.900 --> 00:42:15.000
all you do is hold it in front of your face and

00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.460
breathe in and breathe out and move it side to

00:42:17.460 --> 00:42:19.480
side. Yeah, and you can always come up with a

00:42:19.480 --> 00:42:22.119
tune like that very easily. And there's not a

00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:24.739
lot of physical coordination involved other than

00:42:24.739 --> 00:42:26.980
moving the harmonica side to side and breathing

00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:30.630
in and out. So that makes it fairly easy. If

00:42:30.630 --> 00:42:32.690
we're talking about... Now, this is something

00:42:32.690 --> 00:42:36.510
that was brought up a while back. What musician

00:42:36.510 --> 00:42:39.989
is easiest to replace at the last second if you've

00:42:39.989 --> 00:42:45.730
got a gig and you're losing somebody? You might

00:42:45.730 --> 00:42:52.150
be surprised by my answer. Guitarist? I'd say

00:42:52.150 --> 00:42:55.030
the easiest to replace is the drummer. The drummer?

00:42:55.210 --> 00:42:58.429
I think so. Because most of what a drummer does

00:42:58.429 --> 00:43:02.079
is... repeating a phrase over and over and over

00:43:02.079 --> 00:43:04.880
and over. And then it changes to something else

00:43:04.880 --> 00:43:07.820
and then you repeat that phrase. And also a drumming

00:43:07.820 --> 00:43:10.219
is not obvious to a lot of people. You don't

00:43:10.219 --> 00:43:13.780
worry about pitch or tune or key. You're right.

00:43:13.920 --> 00:43:16.679
Yeah. And also it's not what people focus in

00:43:16.679 --> 00:43:18.760
on so it could be a little spotty and people

00:43:18.760 --> 00:43:22.059
would not know. And if you hit the accents, then

00:43:22.059 --> 00:43:23.980
the rest of the song you can play pretty basic

00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:26.980
and no one's going to care. Okay. You're right.

00:43:27.079 --> 00:43:30.380
That came up. There was a couple of times I was

00:43:30.380 --> 00:43:32.420
in the band Weatherhead and there were some gigs

00:43:32.420 --> 00:43:36.340
that I just couldn't do. And I think one was

00:43:36.340 --> 00:43:40.079
down in Springfield. And the guys went down there

00:43:40.079 --> 00:43:44.360
with... contacted a local drummer who just showed

00:43:44.360 --> 00:43:46.079
up and they showed him the set list and he's

00:43:46.079 --> 00:43:49.179
like, yeah, I know most of these. And they did

00:43:49.179 --> 00:43:51.679
two nights with him and they said the first night

00:43:51.679 --> 00:43:54.840
he did really well and only missed a few things.

00:43:55.139 --> 00:43:58.460
Second night, he missed nothing. Perfect. He

00:43:58.460 --> 00:44:02.159
had it all memorized. Just was perfect. So did

00:44:02.159 --> 00:44:04.179
you come and get your stuff? No, I'm joking.

00:44:04.179 --> 00:44:06.320
It wasn't too much longer after that that I was

00:44:06.320 --> 00:44:08.780
asked to not show up for band practice anymore.

00:44:11.119 --> 00:44:13.360
I don't think that helped, did it? No. I mean,

00:44:13.360 --> 00:44:14.860
they didn't hire him. They went with somebody

00:44:14.860 --> 00:44:17.019
else. But, yeah, I was having a lot of health

00:44:17.019 --> 00:44:20.139
problems, so I was having a lot of trouble being

00:44:20.139 --> 00:44:22.900
reliable enough for a working man. Oh, okay.

00:44:23.059 --> 00:44:27.420
So, yeah, I left with no hard feelings. Yeah,

00:44:27.519 --> 00:44:29.679
I know you did because you talk about him. Yeah.

00:44:32.400 --> 00:44:36.719
Someone like Ace Frehley who can play very well

00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.320
but doesn't read music. If he or anyone else

00:44:40.320 --> 00:44:42.920
who doesn't read music, would they be a better

00:44:42.920 --> 00:44:46.300
player knowing how to read sheet music, or do

00:44:46.300 --> 00:44:48.739
you leave them alone? You leave them alone. Yeah,

00:44:48.739 --> 00:44:51.679
that's exactly what I feel, too. I think if you

00:44:51.679 --> 00:44:53.960
introduce this complexity to it, it's going to

00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:56.340
ruin it for them. Yeah, I mean, it's like if

00:44:56.340 --> 00:45:00.099
your golf swing is perfect, don't play baseball.

00:45:00.320 --> 00:45:02.420
Well, like Mahomes, you don't fix his footwork.

00:45:02.599 --> 00:45:05.130
No. He's won three Super Bowls, been to five.

00:45:05.230 --> 00:45:07.710
You do not fix his footwork. Like people are

00:45:07.710 --> 00:45:10.730
saying, oh, his footwork's horrible. Who gives

00:45:10.730 --> 00:45:15.900
a shit? He wins. Yeah, yeah. The ability to sight

00:45:15.900 --> 00:45:18.519
-read music and play it perfectly the first time

00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.860
is really handy for session musicians and hired

00:45:21.860 --> 00:45:24.260
guns and people like that who have to learn a

00:45:24.260 --> 00:45:27.559
huge catalog all at once. But for just people

00:45:27.559 --> 00:45:30.179
like me or bands that just kind of form with

00:45:30.179 --> 00:45:33.860
childhood friends and stuff, to learn how to

00:45:33.860 --> 00:45:35.719
play by ear and that way when something goes

00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:38.340
wrong, everybody knows what to do because you've

00:45:38.340 --> 00:45:41.199
been playing by ear and you've been improvising.

00:45:41.769 --> 00:45:44.369
That's a good point. My son Jeffrey only learned

00:45:44.369 --> 00:45:48.309
to play by sheet music. So there's times he and

00:45:48.309 --> 00:45:50.530
I have tried to play together and he can't do

00:45:50.530 --> 00:45:54.059
it. Because he's never played with someone in

00:45:54.059 --> 00:45:58.400
his life. He's always played solo. And he can't

00:45:58.400 --> 00:46:01.039
improvise. And also how a lot of songwriting

00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.519
is done. A lot of songwriting is just someone

00:46:03.519 --> 00:46:06.900
fucking humming to somebody. It's like, hey,

00:46:06.960 --> 00:46:09.440
I got an idea for a song. Oh, yeah, okay. It

00:46:09.440 --> 00:46:13.199
goes da -da -da -da -da -da -da. And then the

00:46:13.199 --> 00:46:15.320
guitarist goes da -da -da -da -da -da -da. Is

00:46:15.320 --> 00:46:18.139
that it? Okay, a little lower. That's how a lot

00:46:18.139 --> 00:46:20.929
of songs are written. That's how Steven Adler

00:46:20.929 --> 00:46:23.409
of Guns N' Roses influenced a lot of songs. Yes.

00:46:23.409 --> 00:46:25.469
Even though he didn't get writing credit. He

00:46:25.469 --> 00:46:27.190
should have. He influenced them because they

00:46:27.190 --> 00:46:29.929
worked on them together. Ozzy was very famous

00:46:29.929 --> 00:46:31.889
about that and coming up with melodies, too,

00:46:31.929 --> 00:46:33.289
going, all right, that's good, but I'm going

00:46:33.289 --> 00:46:35.989
to do this. And his improvisation, too, was so

00:46:35.989 --> 00:46:38.789
well. Yes. He knew how a song should go. Yeah,

00:46:38.829 --> 00:46:40.989
there's a lot of that. So I agree with you. I

00:46:40.989 --> 00:46:43.210
think that reading sheet music on something like

00:46:43.210 --> 00:46:46.570
that doesn't really do you that much good. No,

00:46:46.610 --> 00:46:49.489
it seems like it's much more efficient if you're

00:46:49.489 --> 00:46:51.989
trying to work on a new song or capture a feeling

00:46:51.989 --> 00:46:54.789
to record yourself playing it, because then you

00:46:54.789 --> 00:46:56.730
can work in the feeling and the emotion, the

00:46:56.730 --> 00:46:59.489
timing, etc. Writing it down, you really don't

00:46:59.489 --> 00:47:01.630
get all that. Well, yeah, and I've got a great

00:47:01.630 --> 00:47:04.909
example. The video of Nuno Betancourt when he

00:47:04.909 --> 00:47:06.809
was headed to Back to the Beginning concert,

00:47:06.969 --> 00:47:12.440
and he had to learn Randy and Jake's songs. And

00:47:12.440 --> 00:47:14.719
he did it in the back of a limo, but he didn't

00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.719
have sheet music. No, he was listening on headphones

00:47:17.719 --> 00:47:20.719
and going, okay, that sounds like an E. Okay,

00:47:20.860 --> 00:47:23.500
he comes over here. And it's really interesting

00:47:23.500 --> 00:47:26.099
because you can hear him. He'd stop and go, okay,

00:47:26.800 --> 00:47:28.559
that's almost it. Then he'd go back, he'd listen

00:47:28.559 --> 00:47:31.280
again. So it was the same thing. It was really

00:47:31.280 --> 00:47:35.039
intriguing because he would just literally listen

00:47:35.039 --> 00:47:37.769
to it. and then go to his guitar and rep with

00:47:37.769 --> 00:47:41.190
him. Yeah, yeah. It's the kind of person that

00:47:41.190 --> 00:47:44.010
shows up at the open jam. It kills it, yeah.

00:47:44.150 --> 00:47:46.230
You know, nobody's got sheet music. You're all

00:47:46.230 --> 00:47:47.989
just, sometimes they're learning the song while

00:47:47.989 --> 00:47:49.690
they're standing on the stage. Which is excellent.

00:47:49.730 --> 00:47:51.909
Sometimes they do so well, it's like, how the

00:47:51.909 --> 00:47:54.210
hell did they do that? And like with Nuno, he

00:47:54.210 --> 00:47:57.210
knows that genre of music, and he knows what

00:47:57.210 --> 00:47:59.269
key it's in, he knows how the chords usually

00:47:59.269 --> 00:48:02.519
go. He kind of has an idea how songs go, and

00:48:02.519 --> 00:48:04.920
after you do this, you usually do that kind of

00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:08.099
thing. So he's got kind of a roadmap already.

00:48:08.940 --> 00:48:12.260
But then to pick it out and know it and then

00:48:12.260 --> 00:48:14.840
retain it while ignoring all the other songs

00:48:14.840 --> 00:48:17.239
that sound similar that are in your head trying

00:48:17.239 --> 00:48:19.320
to say, wait, is it this song? Is it that song?

00:48:19.559 --> 00:48:23.039
Yeah. I mean, that's a big skill right there.

00:48:23.059 --> 00:48:25.929
It is. I agree. I was playing a trivia game on

00:48:25.929 --> 00:48:28.190
YouTube the other day where they play a song

00:48:28.190 --> 00:48:32.389
intro and you try to guess the song. And every

00:48:32.389 --> 00:48:35.409
time a ZZ Top intro was played, it's like, there

00:48:35.409 --> 00:48:37.550
could be like five of them. There could be like

00:48:37.550 --> 00:48:40.050
five different ZZ Top songs that use that exact

00:48:40.050 --> 00:48:42.449
same intro because they all sound so similar.

00:48:43.389 --> 00:48:46.190
I never thought about it before. You talked about

00:48:46.190 --> 00:48:48.409
the later stuff. Yeah, yeah, when they started

00:48:48.409 --> 00:48:51.059
using the drum machine. Yeah. Their earlier stuff

00:48:51.059 --> 00:48:54.460
wasn't like that. So like ZZ Top, you pretty

00:48:54.460 --> 00:48:56.800
much know where the song's going and what it's

00:48:56.800 --> 00:48:58.639
doing. It's going to stick to the standard 12

00:48:58.639 --> 00:49:01.260
-bar blues format for the most part. Pretty much.

00:49:01.260 --> 00:49:04.179
And you know what Billy Gibbons likes to do as

00:49:04.179 --> 00:49:06.480
far as verse and chorus structure. He likes to

00:49:06.480 --> 00:49:09.139
stretch them out a little bit too. Or you have

00:49:09.139 --> 00:49:11.340
someone like Steve Miller who always wanted to

00:49:11.340 --> 00:49:14.260
do everything four times. And then he'd add a

00:49:14.260 --> 00:49:15.639
new element and then he'd want to do that four

00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:17.730
times. It's like, all you have to do is count

00:49:17.730 --> 00:49:20.110
four times, and you pretty much can play Steve

00:49:20.110 --> 00:49:24.190
Miller. That's it right there. Keep on rocking.

00:49:24.489 --> 00:49:27.070
Yep. Rocking me, baby. And you add a little thing,

00:49:27.190 --> 00:49:32.550
and they say, okay, four times. Surprise, any

00:49:32.550 --> 00:49:35.289
of his music was catchy at all. Yeah, it worked,

00:49:35.289 --> 00:49:37.570
though. It did work. But sometimes you're like,

00:49:37.690 --> 00:49:40.440
oh, my God, this intro is too long. It's because,

00:49:40.519 --> 00:49:42.559
you know, he went through like 24 measures when

00:49:42.559 --> 00:49:45.539
it should have been like eight. Yeah. No, I have

00:49:45.539 --> 00:49:52.420
to do it four times. OCD. Yep. All right. The

00:49:52.420 --> 00:49:55.059
Rock Band Kiss has many kids. What other band

00:49:55.059 --> 00:49:59.059
would you like to see in a mini version? I love

00:49:59.059 --> 00:50:02.219
that question. How about a mini Motley Crue?

00:50:02.800 --> 00:50:06.670
That'd be good. That'd be cool. Mini ACDC. Yes.

00:50:06.889 --> 00:50:09.329
With a little mini Angus Young in shorts. Yes.

00:50:09.650 --> 00:50:18.250
Yeah. Let's see. Ooh, mini Taylor Swift. How

00:50:18.250 --> 00:50:21.030
about mini Alice Cooper? Ooh, that'd be good.

00:50:21.050 --> 00:50:24.320
And a mini Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody else

00:50:24.320 --> 00:50:26.579
on stage has to be mini too. Yes. Especially

00:50:26.579 --> 00:50:29.480
like Taylor Swift because she has like 20 people

00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.880
on stage with her all dancing around. They all

00:50:31.880 --> 00:50:34.699
have to be tiny too. Yes. That would be awesome.

00:50:35.079 --> 00:50:39.360
I'm saying. Yeah, even the roadies, everybody

00:50:39.360 --> 00:50:42.500
has to be midgets. Yeah. Or little people or

00:50:42.500 --> 00:50:44.199
whatever the fuck they call them nowadays. It's

00:50:44.199 --> 00:50:46.679
not offensive. Kind of like if you have an electric

00:50:46.679 --> 00:50:49.119
car, you're only allowed to charge via solar

00:50:49.119 --> 00:50:51.420
and wind power. Because if you plug into a coal

00:50:51.420 --> 00:50:53.659
power plant, you're just a hypocrite. Yeah, yeah.

00:50:53.860 --> 00:50:56.920
You're doing what you said you wasn't going to.

00:50:56.960 --> 00:51:02.059
Yeah. Let's see. How about, let's see, a Mini.

00:51:02.179 --> 00:51:05.300
I know there's more that I'm not thinking of.

00:51:05.360 --> 00:51:09.179
How about a Mini Bon Jovi? No, that's too much

00:51:09.179 --> 00:51:13.599
like the real Bon Jovi. Yeah, that's true. How

00:51:13.599 --> 00:51:17.579
about a giant Dio? Yeah, the opposite. A 7 '1

00:51:17.579 --> 00:51:25.460
Dio. I was thinking like a mini Slayer would

00:51:25.460 --> 00:51:27.380
be fun. Oh, that would be great. Imagine people

00:51:27.380 --> 00:51:31.239
about 3 1⁄2 feet tall shredding on speed metal.

00:51:31.400 --> 00:51:36.500
Oh, yeah. That would be awesome. Yes, I love

00:51:36.500 --> 00:51:40.619
that. And hey, since Hollywood has decided they're

00:51:40.619 --> 00:51:42.320
going to crap all over little people and not

00:51:42.320 --> 00:51:44.820
even hire them for like Snow White and the Seven.

00:51:45.440 --> 00:51:48.360
Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps

00:51:48.360 --> 00:51:53.679
Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This

00:51:53.679 --> 00:51:56.800
is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. This

00:51:56.800 --> 00:51:59.400
November, Bad Company will be inducted into the

00:51:59.400 --> 00:52:02.139
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Only two of the band's

00:52:02.139 --> 00:52:05.500
original members remain. Paul Rogers, the singer

00:52:05.500 --> 00:52:08.480
and drummer, Simon Kirk, the latter of which

00:52:08.480 --> 00:52:10.539
said the odds of them performing at the ceremony

00:52:10.539 --> 00:52:13.780
are very good. It's not a definite just yet,

00:52:13.820 --> 00:52:16.460
though. I don't know. I know that we've been

00:52:16.460 --> 00:52:18.719
approached to play a couple of songs Kirk recently

00:52:18.719 --> 00:52:21.000
explained to Defenders of the Faith podcast.

00:52:21.539 --> 00:52:23.619
I've spoken with Paul. Paul's health, as you

00:52:23.619 --> 00:52:26.260
know, is not good, but I think I'm crossing my

00:52:26.260 --> 00:52:28.239
fingers that we will be able to play at least

00:52:28.239 --> 00:52:31.000
one song. I don't know what that is yet, and

00:52:31.000 --> 00:52:32.659
I don't even know who's going to be inducting

00:52:32.659 --> 00:52:37.500
us yet. Simon, we hope you are correct. We would

00:52:37.500 --> 00:52:40.719
love to hear one last song from you two. This

00:52:40.719 --> 00:52:43.820
is Johnny Rohypnol. That was your music news.

00:52:43.980 --> 00:52:50.059
And remember, bar chords are bullshit. Dwarfs,

00:52:50.059 --> 00:52:52.340
where dwarf is right in the name. Yeah. And they

00:52:52.340 --> 00:52:53.980
won't even hire him for that. We got to find

00:52:53.980 --> 00:52:56.420
new working opportunities for the little people

00:52:56.420 --> 00:52:58.340
of America. They want to go into performing.

00:53:00.380 --> 00:53:02.989
Yeah. It's a public service, I think. I think

00:53:02.989 --> 00:53:05.269
so, too. I think we need to make every band that

00:53:05.269 --> 00:53:07.909
was ever anything Led Zeppelin, all of them.

00:53:08.050 --> 00:53:11.869
They've got to be minis. Yeah. Let's start with

00:53:11.869 --> 00:53:15.170
the mini Beatles. Oh, I like that. Mini Beatles.

00:53:15.429 --> 00:53:19.050
And they play ukuleles instead of guitars. Little

00:53:19.050 --> 00:53:23.070
tiny John Lennon. Yes. Little tiny Paul McCartney.

00:53:25.389 --> 00:53:30.369
All right. All right. Moving on. Okay. Nine Inch

00:53:30.369 --> 00:53:34.210
Nails. are still touring. I saw this the other

00:53:34.210 --> 00:53:36.050
day, yeah. Will you go see them at the right

00:53:36.050 --> 00:53:40.829
price? I'm kind of, I've got mixed feelings.

00:53:41.110 --> 00:53:43.889
Yeah, I do too. They really are not that good

00:53:43.889 --> 00:53:45.789
anymore. They're kind of boring. I mean, well,

00:53:46.550 --> 00:53:48.949
actually musically too. Yeah, yeah. I don't think

00:53:48.949 --> 00:53:51.909
I'd enjoy it at all right now. I don't. I saw

00:53:51.909 --> 00:53:54.989
Nine Inch Nails on the tour for Downward Spiral,

00:53:55.110 --> 00:53:57.769
and I don't think he could ever top that, so

00:53:57.769 --> 00:54:01.329
I want that to be the last. Nine Inch Nails concert

00:54:01.329 --> 00:54:05.650
I see. They toured with Marilyn Manson, who had

00:54:05.650 --> 00:54:07.849
just come out with his first album, and the Jim

00:54:07.849 --> 00:54:11.130
Rose Sideshow Circus. That was such an amazing

00:54:11.130 --> 00:54:13.889
concert from beginning to end. It was just such

00:54:13.889 --> 00:54:18.210
an assault on your senses. I don't want anything

00:54:18.210 --> 00:54:22.389
to compete with that. Yes, same here. I agree

00:54:22.389 --> 00:54:28.699
100%. Yeah, Nine Inch Nails was so... He just

00:54:28.699 --> 00:54:31.480
can't fake that glum and depression stuff that

00:54:31.480 --> 00:54:33.739
he had for so long. He was very, very suicidal.

00:54:34.219 --> 00:54:36.280
Yes. And he was working it out through his albums,

00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.900
and then there was one album he put out, and

00:54:37.900 --> 00:54:39.380
he said, okay, I'm going to put this album out,

00:54:39.480 --> 00:54:40.900
do the tour, and then I'm going to kill myself.

00:54:41.469 --> 00:54:43.750
And he just had it all planned out, but it changed

00:54:43.750 --> 00:54:45.929
his mind. It changed his mind, yeah. And a lot

00:54:45.929 --> 00:54:48.130
of people say, oh, he got too soft, man. You

00:54:48.130 --> 00:54:51.670
lost his edge. Well, he's not dead. You know,

00:54:51.809 --> 00:54:54.409
that's the important thing. He's not dead. So

00:54:54.409 --> 00:54:57.030
that's okay if he starts playing, you know, soft

00:54:57.030 --> 00:55:00.670
stuff or reggae. It's like he didn't kill himself.

00:55:00.769 --> 00:55:03.150
Yeah. Can we be happy about that? You know, he

00:55:03.150 --> 00:55:05.670
can play big band over all I care. You know,

00:55:05.670 --> 00:55:11.320
he's alive. That's good enough. Yeah. All right,

00:55:11.400 --> 00:55:13.980
and finally, what band do you wish would stop

00:55:13.980 --> 00:55:17.039
touring besides Motley Crue and The Who? Oh,

00:55:17.039 --> 00:55:25.539
yeah. Eagles, definitely. Don't want to see them

00:55:25.539 --> 00:55:27.400
around again. Oh, yeah, yeah, they need to go.

00:55:29.340 --> 00:55:33.699
ACDC, the recent footage I've seen. Yeah, it's

00:55:33.699 --> 00:55:36.420
pretty sad. David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth needs

00:55:36.420 --> 00:55:40.099
to quit touring, definitely. Madonna. Oh, yeah.

00:55:40.219 --> 00:55:44.679
Needs to stop. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there

00:55:44.679 --> 00:55:47.340
was that picture that came out of her where she

00:55:47.340 --> 00:55:50.579
looked like the little mannequin from Saw. Yeah.

00:55:50.699 --> 00:55:53.159
But that was before all the swelling went down,

00:55:53.199 --> 00:55:54.840
so of course she looked grim. She looks a lot

00:55:54.840 --> 00:55:59.119
better now, but still, zero relevance. You know,

00:55:59.119 --> 00:56:02.420
she's one of those artists who can only survive

00:56:02.420 --> 00:56:06.960
on the warm, fuzzy feeling of her aging fans.

00:56:07.880 --> 00:56:10.260
And they're willing to say, oh, it's still Madonna

00:56:10.260 --> 00:56:14.400
I want to see. You can make some money doing

00:56:14.400 --> 00:56:18.480
that, but you destroy your legacy. Yeah. I think

00:56:18.480 --> 00:56:21.059
Ozzy set the standard. It's like, here's how

00:56:21.059 --> 00:56:23.840
you go out on top. Yeah, he did. I don't know

00:56:23.840 --> 00:56:25.800
that anyone's going to ever touch that. It's

00:56:25.800 --> 00:56:27.960
not going to be topped ever. No, I don't think

00:56:27.960 --> 00:56:31.059
so. I mean, it's been speculated widely that

00:56:31.059 --> 00:56:34.800
he pretty much drove himself so hard that he

00:56:34.800 --> 00:56:37.889
probably died a little bit prematurely. In his

00:56:37.889 --> 00:56:40.670
condition, probably the best thing that could

00:56:40.670 --> 00:56:42.469
have happened. Yeah, I think he considered that

00:56:42.469 --> 00:56:44.809
a fair exchange. Yeah, I think so too. I think

00:56:44.809 --> 00:56:49.670
so. Yeah, you talk about someone that just went

00:56:49.670 --> 00:56:52.429
out with class and style. There you go. Yeah.

00:56:53.429 --> 00:56:55.869
There'll never be another one. There'll never

00:56:55.869 --> 00:57:00.869
be another Ozzie. No. There'll never be the genuineness

00:57:00.869 --> 00:57:04.210
that he carried with him. Yeah. And there'll

00:57:04.210 --> 00:57:07.030
never be a musician that went out on top like

00:57:07.030 --> 00:57:10.190
that either. No. And even being in such bad shape,

00:57:10.329 --> 00:57:14.949
still commanding everybody's attention. And I

00:57:14.949 --> 00:57:21.250
know that Youngblood has the good graces and

00:57:21.250 --> 00:57:25.030
goodwill of Sharon, but I don't want anything

00:57:25.030 --> 00:57:28.570
to do with him. No. I get the overall impression

00:57:28.570 --> 00:57:33.239
that he's a minor talent that... has the right

00:57:33.239 --> 00:57:35.860
look, is doing what he's told, and is being pushed

00:57:35.860 --> 00:57:38.539
on everybody. That's it. That is. Yeah. It's

00:57:38.539 --> 00:57:41.320
like, why don't you let us decide for ourselves

00:57:41.320 --> 00:57:44.679
and come to him naturally? Well, because by then

00:57:44.679 --> 00:57:47.820
he'll be nothing. Is Sharon managing him? I don't

00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:50.519
know. That's important to know because if she's

00:57:50.519 --> 00:57:53.119
managing him, then he's going to be doing everything

00:57:53.119 --> 00:57:57.079
just perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I have yet to find

00:57:57.079 --> 00:58:00.869
anybody. whose musical taste I agree with, who

00:58:00.869 --> 00:58:03.550
wants anything to do with Youngblood. It's like,

00:58:03.570 --> 00:58:05.789
yeah, he's talented, but just, nah, I don't like

00:58:05.789 --> 00:58:10.210
it, don't want it. No, I'm not a fan. Yeah. I

00:58:10.210 --> 00:58:13.769
never have been. Music like his is available

00:58:13.769 --> 00:58:16.889
out there done better. Yes, I agree. That's how

00:58:16.889 --> 00:58:19.570
I look at it. Yeah, no, he has a look at everything,

00:58:19.690 --> 00:58:22.170
and I love his attitude towards our music. Yeah.

00:58:22.269 --> 00:58:26.050
But that didn't do anything for me at all. So,

00:58:26.090 --> 00:58:28.920
all right. That's all of the bullet points. Dave?

00:58:29.460 --> 00:58:32.960
Well, I wanted to mention that recently we lost

00:58:32.960 --> 00:58:37.199
Rick Davies, singer and keyboard player for Supertramp.

00:58:37.440 --> 00:58:39.639
Put a little information on him. Oh, there we

00:58:39.639 --> 00:58:43.760
go. Yep. Died Saturday at the age of 81 after

00:58:43.760 --> 00:58:46.420
a 10 -year battle with multiple myeloma, which

00:58:46.420 --> 00:58:50.679
is a type of cancer. Yeah. He was actually co

00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:55.019
-singer. Roger Hodgson also sang. He was the

00:58:55.019 --> 00:58:56.860
one who did the high vocals. Like on Goodbye

00:58:56.860 --> 00:59:00.380
Stranger, he was the high vocals. It was kind

00:59:00.380 --> 00:59:02.860
of hard to tell them apart sometimes, too. Breakfast

00:59:02.860 --> 00:59:07.219
in America was Roger. Rick did Bloody Well Right,

00:59:07.340 --> 00:59:11.019
the song, and Goodbye Stranger, the deeper vocals,

00:59:11.400 --> 00:59:17.260
and Child of Vision, things like that. Breakfast

00:59:17.260 --> 00:59:22.079
in America will never get the observation it

00:59:22.079 --> 00:59:24.139
needs to. It'll never get the credit it needed

00:59:24.139 --> 00:59:26.320
to. That album was really great. It was huge

00:59:26.320 --> 00:59:29.300
at the time, but it's been kind of forgotten.

00:59:29.559 --> 00:59:31.940
Yeah, it's not really on the classic rock playlist.

00:59:32.119 --> 00:59:34.760
It hasn't been for a long time, really. And the

00:59:34.760 --> 00:59:38.480
one before that, Crime of the Century, that had

00:59:38.480 --> 00:59:40.820
Bloody Well Right, that's got some really good

00:59:40.820 --> 00:59:43.440
songs on that, too. You know, back when classic

00:59:43.440 --> 00:59:46.880
rock wasn't exactly classic rock, Those songs

00:59:46.880 --> 00:59:50.360
were mainstones. But now they're not. Which is

00:59:50.360 --> 00:59:55.920
so weird. I don't know what dictates. It's weird.

00:59:55.980 --> 00:59:58.679
Sometimes music is intentionally driven out of

00:59:58.679 --> 01:00:01.579
fashion because the people producing it are making

01:00:01.579 --> 01:00:04.539
too much money. And the music industry wants

01:00:04.539 --> 01:00:07.559
to sign nobodies who will work for nothing. And

01:00:07.559 --> 01:00:09.360
then they'll just convince us that we want their

01:00:09.360 --> 01:00:13.840
music. Yeah, no, I agree. There's a lot of element

01:00:13.840 --> 01:00:18.260
like that. The interesting thing I found about

01:00:18.260 --> 01:00:21.599
Super Tramp was while most of the people at that

01:00:21.599 --> 01:00:24.260
time were playing Fender Rhodes electric pianos,

01:00:24.320 --> 01:00:27.199
he used a Wurlitzer, which has a totally different

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:31.340
sound. And I thought that made him stand out.

01:00:31.400 --> 01:00:33.960
I think that was just a brilliant idea, was to

01:00:33.960 --> 01:00:37.760
use a different sound on that. And then to alternate

01:00:37.760 --> 01:00:41.440
between the two singers, for the most part. That's

01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:43.940
cool. I remember the story of how the band was

01:00:43.940 --> 01:00:48.550
put together. The bass player showed up, I can't

01:00:48.550 --> 01:00:51.610
remember his name, to audition. And he found

01:00:51.610 --> 01:00:54.090
Rick Davies asleep, sprawled across the piano.

01:00:55.170 --> 01:00:57.610
And he said, I'm here to audition. He's like,

01:00:57.730 --> 01:01:01.210
oh, okay. So he kind of woke up, and then he

01:01:01.210 --> 01:01:03.369
played some songs, and the guy played bass along

01:01:03.369 --> 01:01:04.829
with him. He's like, all right, we'll let you

01:01:04.829 --> 01:01:07.489
know. A couple days later, they called him and

01:01:07.489 --> 01:01:09.730
said, you got the gig. He says, okay, great.

01:01:09.809 --> 01:01:12.289
And he showed up. He said, what was it that made

01:01:12.289 --> 01:01:13.969
you decide to hire me? And they looked around.

01:01:14.889 --> 01:01:16.670
You're the only one whose name we remembered.

01:01:20.809 --> 01:01:23.809
But he wound up being a great bass player for

01:01:23.809 --> 01:01:27.130
them. He did. That's funny. And their drummer

01:01:27.130 --> 01:01:31.469
was always listed on the credits as Bob C. Benberg.

01:01:32.829 --> 01:01:35.130
The middle initial C. And I was like, well, that

01:01:35.130 --> 01:01:38.949
must be like Bun E. Carlos for cheap trick. But

01:01:38.949 --> 01:01:42.150
it turns out his name was actually Bob Siebenberg.

01:01:42.449 --> 01:01:46.920
All one word. but he was an American in Europe

01:01:46.920 --> 01:01:50.239
on the wrong visa. He wasn't allowed to work

01:01:50.239 --> 01:01:52.860
and earn money on his, I guess he was on a student

01:01:52.860 --> 01:01:56.019
visa. So he had to change his name so he could

01:01:56.019 --> 01:01:59.179
sneak his earnings, because they would have deported

01:01:59.179 --> 01:02:00.860
him otherwise. It was like, hey, wrong visa,

01:02:00.940 --> 01:02:03.579
you can't earn money here, get out. But in order

01:02:03.579 --> 01:02:05.559
to stay in the band, he had to change his name.

01:02:06.329 --> 01:02:09.690
And when he was an endorser for Ludwig Drums,

01:02:09.710 --> 01:02:13.230
and when they had a big magazine spread showing

01:02:13.230 --> 01:02:15.789
all their drum endorsers, he didn't show up because

01:02:15.789 --> 01:02:18.750
he said, I can't afford to be seen, and no one

01:02:18.750 --> 01:02:20.889
recognized me. He kept his face off the album

01:02:20.889 --> 01:02:24.010
covers too. He's like, nobody can see me and

01:02:24.010 --> 01:02:26.110
know that that's me, otherwise I'll get deported.

01:02:26.190 --> 01:02:30.969
Now eventually he had it all taken care of. Coincidentally,

01:02:30.969 --> 01:02:36.059
you know that... Rick Nilsen's son. His name

01:02:36.059 --> 01:02:40.699
in drumming is Ricky E. Nilsen. No, it isn't.

01:02:41.780 --> 01:02:47.380
Kind of like Sheila E. Yeah, Sheila E. Anyway,

01:02:47.840 --> 01:02:51.940
so I always enjoyed Supertramp. I was into Supertramp

01:02:51.940 --> 01:02:56.619
before they got real big. I guess the album before...

01:02:57.219 --> 01:02:59.880
Breakfast in America was Even in the Quietest

01:02:59.880 --> 01:03:03.239
Moments. The piano covered with snow. Yeah, they

01:03:03.239 --> 01:03:05.119
did okay with that, but Breakfast in America

01:03:05.119 --> 01:03:07.460
is really like their breakout. Yeah, Give a Little

01:03:07.460 --> 01:03:10.179
Bit was off of Even in the Quietest Moments,

01:03:10.179 --> 01:03:12.880
and that got them a lot of airplay, and it was

01:03:12.880 --> 01:03:15.619
used in a lot of TV shows, etc. And then Breakfast

01:03:15.619 --> 01:03:18.519
in America had like five hits on it. And there

01:03:18.519 --> 01:03:20.719
was quite a bit of controversy at the time because

01:03:20.719 --> 01:03:26.360
the Statue of Liberty. Was a rather rotund waitress.

01:03:26.460 --> 01:03:29.719
Yep. With a milkshake in her hand. Yep. And people

01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:32.699
didn't like that. They said it was anti -patriotic

01:03:32.699 --> 01:03:35.460
and all that. Yeah, making fun. Yeah, but it's

01:03:35.460 --> 01:03:37.980
called Breakfast in America. See, you know. Yeah.

01:03:38.500 --> 01:03:40.940
Anyhow, yeah. Yeah, great album. There's like

01:03:40.940 --> 01:03:43.699
five hit songs. But like we just got done saying,

01:03:43.880 --> 01:03:46.880
you don't hear that. No, you really don't. Not

01:03:46.880 --> 01:03:50.159
even on the internet. You go to the internet.

01:03:50.760 --> 01:03:52.440
Classic rock, you don't hear it on there either.

01:03:52.579 --> 01:03:55.239
Yeah, it's like the whole band name is disappearing.

01:03:56.260 --> 01:03:59.440
There was a movie out some years back called

01:03:59.440 --> 01:04:03.780
Into the Wild, a real story about a guy, Christopher

01:04:03.780 --> 01:04:06.260
Chandless, I think it was his name, something

01:04:06.260 --> 01:04:08.860
like that, who wanted to go live on his own in

01:04:08.860 --> 01:04:11.900
the wilds of Alaska and kept a photo journal

01:04:11.900 --> 01:04:13.880
and a regular journal. Did he hang around with

01:04:13.880 --> 01:04:17.059
bears? I think so. He wound up making a number

01:04:17.059 --> 01:04:20.670
of mistakes and starved to death. Oh, okay. But

01:04:20.670 --> 01:04:25.889
he, as he was traveling north to get to that

01:04:25.889 --> 01:04:28.329
spot, he didn't want his family finding him and

01:04:28.329 --> 01:04:30.489
bringing him home, so he traveled under the name

01:04:30.489 --> 01:04:35.900
of Alexander Super Tram. And he would write that,

01:04:35.980 --> 01:04:38.380
you know, all the places he went, you know, Alexander

01:04:38.380 --> 01:04:41.619
Supertramp in chalk somewhere. And for a while,

01:04:41.619 --> 01:04:43.820
people were finding, you know, oh, he was here

01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:46.079
because, look, he signed his name here. Alexander

01:04:46.079 --> 01:04:47.880
Supertramp. Yeah, because I think his family

01:04:47.880 --> 01:04:50.059
had money and they were looking for him. It's

01:04:50.059 --> 01:04:51.860
like, no, no, no, no, you need to go to college.

01:04:52.159 --> 01:04:56.079
You know, don't do this. It's like, nah. No,

01:04:56.280 --> 01:05:00.300
I was speaking a grizzly man. Yes. Yeah. But

01:05:00.300 --> 01:05:05.579
it was an interesting movie, Into the Wild. Who's

01:05:05.579 --> 01:05:09.679
that Vaughn, big, large comedian guy who was

01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.579
in a movie with Jennifer Aniston? Vince Vaughn.

01:05:13.820 --> 01:05:15.920
Vince Vaughn, okay. He's got a small role in

01:05:15.920 --> 01:05:18.840
it. Okay. Well, anything that's got Vince Vaughn

01:05:18.840 --> 01:05:23.679
in it, you know, is good. Oh, very cool. But

01:05:23.679 --> 01:05:28.119
I did manage to see Supertramp at Municipal.

01:05:29.500 --> 01:05:35.679
I think it was before Breakfast in America. Because

01:05:35.679 --> 01:05:38.800
I don't think they did any of those songs. And

01:05:38.800 --> 01:05:41.639
I think the opening act was Red Rider. Remember

01:05:41.639 --> 01:05:44.320
them? Red Rider, yeah. Lunatic Fringe. Lunatic

01:05:44.320 --> 01:05:48.440
Fringe, yeah. And what was another one? There's

01:05:48.440 --> 01:05:53.809
another song. Red Hot. Twilight Zone. That was

01:05:53.809 --> 01:05:56.110
Golden Eerie. That was Golden Eerie. Yeah. They

01:05:56.110 --> 01:05:57.849
had one called Red Hot. And then the singer,

01:05:57.949 --> 01:06:01.329
Tom Cochran, split, and he did the song Life

01:06:01.329 --> 01:06:03.929
is a Highway. Yeah. That was later covered by

01:06:03.929 --> 01:06:07.789
Rascal Flatts. Yes. Yeah. My wife thought Rascal

01:06:07.789 --> 01:06:10.309
Flatts wrote it. And I said, oh, here's the original.

01:06:10.409 --> 01:06:12.329
And she's like, that sounds almost the same.

01:06:12.409 --> 01:06:14.070
I was like, yeah, that's pretty close. Have you

01:06:14.070 --> 01:06:16.349
ever seen the spoof that the family guy does

01:06:16.349 --> 01:06:19.130
on that video? No, I haven't. Oh, you've got

01:06:19.130 --> 01:06:23.170
to see it. They clowned that thing out so bad.

01:06:24.070 --> 01:06:28.230
It's funnier than hell. I think the song Lunatic

01:06:28.230 --> 01:06:32.090
Fringe was written around the same time that

01:06:32.090 --> 01:06:35.789
Lennon was shot and Reagan was shot. I think

01:06:35.789 --> 01:06:38.050
you're right. Because I know you're out there

01:06:38.050 --> 01:06:42.889
on Lunatic. Yeah, it's about keeping yourself

01:06:42.889 --> 01:06:48.210
safe from the lunatics. The song is written very

01:06:48.210 --> 01:06:51.849
well. You get the feeling, the dark feeling behind

01:06:51.849 --> 01:06:55.090
it, like there's sinister things at play. Yeah,

01:06:55.190 --> 01:06:58.690
and the little off -kilter drum beat. Yeah, that's

01:06:58.690 --> 01:07:01.989
what makes it right there, yeah. Yeah, and I

01:07:01.989 --> 01:07:04.730
remember when Red Rider played, their sound fidelity,

01:07:04.889 --> 01:07:08.110
sound quality was amazing. It is on that song,

01:07:08.250 --> 01:07:12.289
on that whole album. The song quality, the guitar

01:07:12.289 --> 01:07:14.889
in general, the way they have it set back away

01:07:14.889 --> 01:07:18.349
from the music is insane. You don't hear a lot

01:07:18.349 --> 01:07:20.369
of bands doing that. They like the guitar to

01:07:20.369 --> 01:07:22.969
be the prominent. They're like, okay, this song

01:07:22.969 --> 01:07:26.030
is arranged differently. This is like a predator

01:07:26.030 --> 01:07:28.550
coming at you. That's what the guitar is going

01:07:28.550 --> 01:07:33.130
to do. It was brilliant. Genius. Genius. The

01:07:33.130 --> 01:07:36.250
other day I saw somebody reacting to a song by

01:07:36.250 --> 01:07:40.230
America Horse with no name. Oh, yeah. And they'd

01:07:40.230 --> 01:07:43.429
never heard it before. And he caught, he picked

01:07:43.429 --> 01:07:45.269
up on something. He was like halfway through

01:07:45.269 --> 01:07:46.929
and he stopped. He's like, I feel like the song

01:07:46.929 --> 01:07:49.610
is building something. You know, and it's like

01:07:49.610 --> 01:07:52.150
it's going somewhere and I'm not sure where it's

01:07:52.150 --> 01:07:56.190
going to go. Never did. No. The song is two chords.

01:07:56.309 --> 01:07:58.670
They just go back and forth in two chords. And

01:07:58.670 --> 01:08:00.230
that's all there is to it. Was this the guy that

01:08:00.230 --> 01:08:03.849
makes all the faces on music? Yes. Yes. Okay.

01:08:04.469 --> 01:08:06.750
Molly Boy. Yeah, Molly Boy. Yeah, he's a lot

01:08:06.750 --> 01:08:11.019
of fun. Yeah. But he picked up, but the idea

01:08:11.019 --> 01:08:15.480
on the song was you're traveling. You know, I've

01:08:15.480 --> 01:08:17.479
been through the desert on a horse with no name.

01:08:17.600 --> 01:08:19.979
You know, it's a song about a journey. Competitive

01:08:19.979 --> 01:08:24.199
traveling, yeah. But the song never gets where

01:08:24.199 --> 01:08:26.800
it's going. And it leaves you with the feeling

01:08:26.800 --> 01:08:28.899
that you're still on that journey, still looking

01:08:28.899 --> 01:08:31.199
for something. That would make the song more

01:08:31.199 --> 01:08:33.600
tolerable. Yeah. To me, I found it a waste of

01:08:33.600 --> 01:08:36.359
time. Yeah, yeah. For most people, you love it

01:08:36.359 --> 01:08:38.720
or you hate it. But if you can look at it as,

01:08:38.779 --> 01:08:41.100
you know, the song is supposed to evoke the feeling

01:08:41.100 --> 01:08:42.840
that you're traveling and you're just never going

01:08:42.840 --> 01:08:45.579
to get there, but traveling is all you know,

01:08:45.600 --> 01:08:49.020
and here you go. Yeah. So I thought it was really

01:08:49.020 --> 01:08:51.439
well written in that respect. And then you got

01:08:51.439 --> 01:08:55.640
the voice on there, too. Yeah. Damn. All right.

01:08:55.800 --> 01:09:00.770
But the band America started as three... Air

01:09:00.770 --> 01:09:03.869
Force Bratz. Really? Yeah. There was three guys

01:09:03.869 --> 01:09:05.829
that were in Germany whose fathers all worked

01:09:05.829 --> 01:09:07.930
for the Air Force and were stationed there. And

01:09:07.930 --> 01:09:09.710
all three of them could sing and all three played

01:09:09.710 --> 01:09:13.289
guitar. So that was America. It was those three

01:09:13.289 --> 01:09:15.369
guys. And then the whole rest of the band around

01:09:15.369 --> 01:09:17.909
them were just hired guns. Wow, I didn't know

01:09:17.909 --> 01:09:19.529
that. Yeah, they had some pretty amazing people

01:09:19.529 --> 01:09:22.289
go through their band too for the touring and

01:09:22.289 --> 01:09:24.729
for the albums and stuff. But America was just

01:09:24.729 --> 01:09:26.829
those three guys and now it's just two guys.

01:09:27.680 --> 01:09:31.399
Because one of them is clean and sober and refuses

01:09:31.399 --> 01:09:33.359
to have anything to do with the other two unless

01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.500
they get sober. Which one is that? I don't remember

01:09:36.500 --> 01:09:39.319
anymore. Oh, well, it doesn't matter. Yeah. But,

01:09:39.319 --> 01:09:41.260
yeah, I knew a little bit about that, but I didn't

01:09:41.260 --> 01:09:43.640
know. I know the revolving musicians that they

01:09:43.640 --> 01:09:48.579
had have been top notch. Yeah. I've got a little

01:09:48.579 --> 01:09:52.939
story here. Sure. Okay. Nuno Betancourt performed

01:09:52.939 --> 01:10:01.079
at the Ozzy Tribute in 2020. five MTV VMAs, alongside

01:10:01.079 --> 01:10:05.439
Youngblood, Steven Tyler, and Joe Perry. Honored

01:10:05.439 --> 01:10:08.020
the late Black Sabbath frontman. Betancourt also

01:10:08.020 --> 01:10:10.840
released, recently participated in the Back to

01:10:10.840 --> 01:10:13.300
the Beginning, final concert of Black Sabbath.

01:10:13.770 --> 01:10:19.369
in July of 2025, and even had a humorous exchange

01:10:19.369 --> 01:10:22.810
with Ozzy afterwards, where the Prince of Darkness

01:10:22.810 --> 01:10:25.630
noted Bettencourt was the only guitarist to ever

01:10:25.630 --> 01:10:28.930
turn him down. Oh, wow. Well, he never told,

01:10:29.029 --> 01:10:31.569
Bettencourt never told anything about this before.

01:10:31.670 --> 01:10:33.689
He kept it under his hat this whole time. Wow.

01:10:34.250 --> 01:10:37.189
But since Ozzy said that to him and people heard

01:10:37.189 --> 01:10:38.810
him, it's like, okay, well, I can tell about

01:10:38.810 --> 01:10:42.340
it now. So, Nuno Bettencourt joined Youngblood

01:10:42.340 --> 01:10:44.279
and Steven Tyler and Joe Perry to perform the

01:10:44.279 --> 01:10:48.220
medley of Osborne hits. The tribute included

01:10:48.220 --> 01:10:51.180
Crazy Train, Changes, and Mom, I'm Coming Home,

01:10:51.279 --> 01:10:55.819
which is a great little set there. So, Ozzy's

01:10:55.819 --> 01:10:57.539
back to the beginning of the concert. Bettencourt

01:10:57.539 --> 01:10:59.859
was part of the star -studded final concert of

01:10:59.859 --> 01:11:02.859
Black Sabbath in 2025, held in Osborne's town

01:11:02.859 --> 01:11:05.239
of Birmingham, England. Bettencourt expressed

01:11:05.239 --> 01:11:07.850
how much Osborne meant to him. and acknowledge

01:11:07.850 --> 01:11:11.409
Osbourne's impact on rock and metal. Ozzy's final

01:11:11.409 --> 01:11:15.449
conversation with Betancourt. Ozzy shared a moment

01:11:15.449 --> 01:11:18.729
with Nuno at his final concert. Betancourt thanked

01:11:18.729 --> 01:11:21.050
Osbourne and Osbourne playfully responded that

01:11:21.050 --> 01:11:23.909
Betancourt was the only guitarist to ever say

01:11:23.909 --> 01:11:30.079
no to him. And he added, I love you. Bettencourt

01:11:30.079 --> 01:11:32.899
grew up listening to Ozzy who said he changed

01:11:32.899 --> 01:11:38.779
rock and roll. In 1995 or 1996, Ozzy asked Bettencourt

01:11:38.779 --> 01:11:42.260
to join his band, but Bettencourt declined. He

01:11:42.260 --> 01:11:45.359
was committed to his own band, Xtreme. And he

01:11:45.359 --> 01:11:47.920
said, he went on, this article is much longer,

01:11:48.079 --> 01:11:51.100
but he went on to say that that was his biggest

01:11:51.100 --> 01:11:53.739
regret is he wanted to join. He should have joined.

01:11:53.859 --> 01:11:58.630
Yeah, because Xtreme had three... albums, four

01:11:58.630 --> 01:12:01.869
albums that I remember, and two were pretty good.

01:12:02.189 --> 01:12:05.829
The third one was, yeah, then he joined Van Halen,

01:12:05.829 --> 01:12:07.869
kind of, well, yeah, kind of broke him up. Yeah.

01:12:08.770 --> 01:12:10.949
Pornhub Graffiti was really good. Yeah, that

01:12:10.949 --> 01:12:12.569
was excellent. That was the one where he got

01:12:12.569 --> 01:12:18.340
wholehearted and some of the other singles. There's

01:12:18.340 --> 01:12:20.619
another, yeah, there's another album. More Than

01:12:20.619 --> 01:12:23.380
Words. More Than Words, yeah. And then the album

01:12:23.380 --> 01:12:26.500
after that was Three Sides to Every Story. Yeah,

01:12:26.500 --> 01:12:28.560
which was a good one. And that had some hits

01:12:28.560 --> 01:12:30.439
off of it, and that's got some really good songs.

01:12:30.920 --> 01:12:33.220
Get the Funk Out. Get the Funk Out was on Pornograffiti.

01:12:33.460 --> 01:12:38.319
That was on Pornograffiti. Yeah. Wait a minute,

01:12:38.399 --> 01:12:41.279
this was the one that you were talking about

01:12:41.279 --> 01:12:44.590
had a... Had a green album cover. It started

01:12:44.590 --> 01:12:47.109
out with Warheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was

01:12:47.109 --> 01:12:49.210
that Peacemaker Die on there? Yeah, that was

01:12:49.210 --> 01:12:53.430
Peacemaker Die. I'm trying to remember the name

01:12:53.430 --> 01:12:55.810
of the single. Someone said, give peace a chance,

01:12:55.869 --> 01:13:01.010
and that's all that was said. Yeah. Anyway, Political

01:13:01.010 --> 01:13:04.050
Amity is a really good one. Yeah, very good.

01:13:05.170 --> 01:13:08.529
Anyways, so those two albums were pretty good.

01:13:09.149 --> 01:13:11.670
But that was kind of their high point. I've got

01:13:11.670 --> 01:13:15.550
one thing. Ozzy's memory wasn't that well. Brad

01:13:15.550 --> 01:13:21.829
Gillis. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yeah, he wanted

01:13:21.829 --> 01:13:24.130
to stay with Night Ranger, which was not a bad

01:13:24.130 --> 01:13:26.689
move. No, no, Night Ranger did well. Then that

01:13:26.689 --> 01:13:29.170
morphed into Damn Yankees. Yeah, which did well.

01:13:29.329 --> 01:13:32.710
Yeah. No, Brad Gillis actually was the first

01:13:32.710 --> 01:13:35.189
one. Yeah. And he could have remembered that

01:13:35.189 --> 01:13:36.970
and was just kidding around for something. Oh,

01:13:36.989 --> 01:13:40.189
that could be, yeah. But as soon as he said I'm

01:13:40.189 --> 01:13:42.130
like wait a minute because I always like going

01:13:42.130 --> 01:13:44.350
reckless. How the fuck did you do that? How do

01:13:44.350 --> 01:13:47.109
you say no to this guy? Yeah, well, he believed

01:13:47.109 --> 01:13:49.789
him what he was doing Yeah, yeah, you got to

01:13:49.789 --> 01:13:52.250
get mad. Well Black Sabbath the same thing happened

01:13:52.250 --> 01:13:58.090
Tony. I owe me was offered the gig with Guy Ian

01:13:58.090 --> 01:14:03.090
Anderson. Yeah And he said no And the reason

01:14:03.090 --> 01:14:05.729
he said no is because he saw bigger things with

01:14:05.729 --> 01:14:08.149
Black Sabbath. And he was right. Yeah, he was.

01:14:08.170 --> 01:14:10.010
He was absolutely right. Yeah, they didn't want

01:14:10.010 --> 01:14:12.350
him to play like he was. They wanted him to play

01:14:12.350 --> 01:14:15.109
like Ian Anderson did, and he said, that just

01:14:15.109 --> 01:14:18.909
doesn't do anything for me. Yeah. But the guitar

01:14:18.909 --> 01:14:22.069
player they had, Michael Desbarres, if that's

01:14:22.069 --> 01:14:24.689
how you pronounce his name. Awesome guitar. Debar,

01:14:24.710 --> 01:14:26.770
I think. Debar. I've heard it in a video. It

01:14:26.770 --> 01:14:29.970
was Dez Bars. It could be. Who knows? But he

01:14:29.970 --> 01:14:31.789
wound up being a great guitar player for them.

01:14:31.850 --> 01:14:34.989
He was. Great tone. Really good player. I don't

01:14:34.989 --> 01:14:36.550
think he could have fit in better for the type

01:14:36.550 --> 01:14:38.829
of music that they were doing. Yeah. And I don't

01:14:38.829 --> 01:14:40.930
think Iommi would have sounded quite right. But

01:14:40.930 --> 01:14:43.229
then again, I don't know. The stuff that I heard,

01:14:43.329 --> 01:14:45.029
I didn't really notice that big of a difference.

01:14:45.329 --> 01:14:47.449
You've got to think that if Iommi had joined...

01:14:47.630 --> 01:14:49.710
Jethro Tull, then their sound would have been

01:14:49.710 --> 01:14:51.689
different from anything that we've already heard.

01:14:51.750 --> 01:14:53.909
I think it would have been, and I loved them,

01:14:53.949 --> 01:14:56.550
I think it would have been better. Yeah, yeah.

01:14:57.029 --> 01:15:00.029
It would have been somebody to keep Ian Anderson

01:15:00.029 --> 01:15:03.090
from throwing in so many folk and peasant songs.

01:15:03.409 --> 01:15:07.829
Yeah, oh gosh. You know, flutes and lutes. It

01:15:07.829 --> 01:15:10.149
wouldn't have lasted over two albums. Yes. Because

01:15:10.149 --> 01:15:11.989
Iommi probably would have been frustrated and

01:15:11.989 --> 01:15:15.649
said, no, you know. Let's rock out a little bit,

01:15:15.710 --> 01:15:19.149
man. No, no, no. Hang on. I got this great flute

01:15:19.149 --> 01:15:21.069
part. About that time, he's like putting his

01:15:21.069 --> 01:15:24.949
guitar away. You go ahead and you practice that

01:15:24.949 --> 01:15:32.489
flute, okay? Oh, gosh. Yeah, and then all the...

01:15:32.489 --> 01:15:35.130
This always cracks me up. But it was talking

01:15:35.130 --> 01:15:38.109
about how Ian Anderson plays the pan flute with

01:15:38.109 --> 01:15:41.859
his leg way in there. Yeah. No. he really he

01:15:41.859 --> 01:15:45.239
lifts it up like maybe a foot every i don't know

01:15:45.239 --> 01:15:48.699
every five minutes yeah for about 30 seconds

01:15:48.699 --> 01:15:51.560
and they call that yeah it's just what was promoted

01:15:51.560 --> 01:15:54.340
i've even seen you know stickers of death row

01:15:54.340 --> 01:15:56.680
tool stickers where it shows a line drawing of

01:15:56.680 --> 01:15:59.439
him with his leg up like a flamingo yes this

01:15:59.439 --> 01:16:05.039
isn't really what goes on no no no he does good

01:16:05.039 --> 01:16:08.029
just to do what he did yeah yeah It'd be like

01:16:08.029 --> 01:16:10.829
promoting Ozzy as if he bites heads off of bats

01:16:10.829 --> 01:16:14.710
constantly. Yeah. No, it just happened once.

01:16:14.789 --> 01:16:16.890
Don't worry about it. He thought it was a stuffed

01:16:16.890 --> 01:16:21.189
bat. Well, the dub thing, you know, the dub thing

01:16:21.189 --> 01:16:23.149
happened. Yeah, that's true. But, you know, hey.

01:16:24.310 --> 01:16:27.090
It worked, though. Yeah, it worked as a good

01:16:27.090 --> 01:16:29.750
image for Ozzy for what he was doing. And for

01:16:29.750 --> 01:16:32.229
Ian Anderson, his image worked for him really

01:16:32.229 --> 01:16:34.409
well. Well, what I read on the Ozzy thing was

01:16:34.409 --> 01:16:37.100
this right here. The people in the room. Fired

01:16:37.100 --> 01:16:40.279
him. Yeah. They're like, no. And the people that

01:16:40.279 --> 01:16:43.000
found out that he was fired up above said, well,

01:16:43.119 --> 01:16:45.260
why did you do that? We really had our eye on

01:16:45.260 --> 01:16:48.220
this guy. Yeah. And we could make this work for

01:16:48.220 --> 01:16:50.720
us. Yeah, and they're like, no. Call him up.

01:16:50.800 --> 01:16:54.119
And you offer him the contract. Yeah. And they're

01:16:54.119 --> 01:16:56.479
all like, but, but, but, no. This guy's a walking

01:16:56.479 --> 01:16:59.939
controversy. And they were like, that was CBS

01:16:59.939 --> 01:17:03.260
Jet at the time, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, Jet Records.

01:17:04.220 --> 01:17:07.729
Guaranteed. He'll never be shy for publicity.

01:17:08.029 --> 01:17:11.270
He'll always be getting attention. Why wouldn't

01:17:11.270 --> 01:17:16.029
you want that? I mean, everything. If there's

01:17:16.029 --> 01:17:18.890
any type of a rock star that has actually been

01:17:18.890 --> 01:17:22.569
exploited because of his antics, it would be

01:17:22.569 --> 01:17:26.310
Ozzy. Because so many of them are just modern

01:17:26.310 --> 01:17:30.390
-day folklore now. It's like, did that really

01:17:30.390 --> 01:17:32.869
happen? I was in concert. I saw it happen there.

01:17:33.720 --> 01:17:37.180
Yeah, and other front men started trying to directly

01:17:37.180 --> 01:17:39.279
compete with him, but they just couldn't keep

01:17:39.279 --> 01:17:42.840
up. It was fake. It was fake, number one. You

01:17:42.840 --> 01:17:45.420
know, they're trying to act like him when Ozzy

01:17:45.420 --> 01:17:49.119
was acting himself. Yeah, so Ozzy always had

01:17:49.119 --> 01:17:51.680
the originality. It was always, you know, something

01:17:51.680 --> 01:17:53.840
fresh and different. Everyone else was just trying

01:17:53.840 --> 01:17:55.840
to copy him and anticipate where he was going

01:17:55.840 --> 01:17:58.359
next and just doing his stupid version. Gene

01:17:58.359 --> 01:18:00.960
Simmons said it best. He was such a natural.

01:18:01.449 --> 01:18:03.909
He never had to do anything that wasn't natural

01:18:03.909 --> 01:18:08.430
to be a rock star. And also, he said, first he

01:18:08.430 --> 01:18:10.310
pointed out himself. He said, whenever I sing,

01:18:10.409 --> 01:18:13.489
I got to go into a gruff voice. He said, everybody

01:18:13.489 --> 01:18:15.630
else that sings goes into their singing voice.

01:18:15.869 --> 01:18:18.529
Ozzy didn't. No. What he sang is what he was.

01:18:18.670 --> 01:18:21.329
Yeah. And he said he never had to get up there

01:18:21.329 --> 01:18:23.590
and do anything different except what he was

01:18:23.590 --> 01:18:28.850
doing. And another secret ingredient for Ozzy.

01:18:29.500 --> 01:18:31.140
was that he never... Oh, my God, I'm sorry. I

01:18:31.140 --> 01:18:34.319
had some... He hammered that one out. Oh, my

01:18:34.319 --> 01:18:36.899
God, yeah, yeah. Man, that broccoli gets me every

01:18:36.899 --> 01:18:39.840
damn time. He might have torn a hole in the seat

01:18:39.840 --> 01:18:43.260
chair. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Nobody lied to Match.

01:18:43.340 --> 01:18:46.840
We're going to go up. Oh, my God. One of Ozzy's

01:18:46.840 --> 01:18:49.470
secret ingredients is that... you could always

01:18:49.470 --> 01:18:52.590
tell he was having a great time. You look at

01:18:52.590 --> 01:18:55.369
someone like Marilyn Manson, he's trying to be

01:18:55.369 --> 01:18:58.750
evil and dark. And some of these other people

01:18:58.750 --> 01:19:01.689
were just really overacting. Look how evil and

01:19:01.689 --> 01:19:05.630
intense I am. You're going to attract some people.

01:19:05.829 --> 01:19:08.850
Even Dio was like that. And especially if you're

01:19:08.850 --> 01:19:10.989
following Ozzy and trying to do that, you're

01:19:10.989 --> 01:19:13.899
missing the point. Ozzy was like this carefree

01:19:13.899 --> 01:19:16.640
guy trying to have some fun and had a twisted

01:19:16.640 --> 01:19:19.560
sense of humor, but he wasn't trying to be mean

01:19:19.560 --> 01:19:22.539
or evil. He was just having a ball. And blacks

01:19:22.539 --> 01:19:25.079
have his credit. They didn't try to replace Ozzy

01:19:25.079 --> 01:19:26.920
at all. They were completely different, just

01:19:26.920 --> 01:19:29.619
dark. That's smart. Smart, smart, smart. And

01:19:29.619 --> 01:19:33.199
it worked out. Yeah. Until they broke up, but

01:19:33.199 --> 01:19:34.800
it worked out. But then they got back together

01:19:34.800 --> 01:19:40.859
several times. So, yeah. But, yeah. something?

01:19:41.000 --> 01:19:44.319
I think I'm about tapped out. So am I. I'm pretty

01:19:44.319 --> 01:19:46.800
much tapped out too. How long of an episode do

01:19:46.800 --> 01:19:49.060
we have? An hour and fifteen. Alright, that's

01:19:49.060 --> 01:19:53.380
good enough. Good enough for them. You know what?

01:19:53.420 --> 01:19:55.500
I'll throw in some shit too. I'll make this thing

01:19:55.500 --> 01:19:59.149
last three hours to be a dick. It would be like

01:19:59.149 --> 01:20:01.090
a secret. Remember when they put secret tracks

01:20:01.090 --> 01:20:03.609
on CDs? Yes. You'd have to listen to like 45

01:20:03.609 --> 01:20:05.409
minutes of silence and there would be one little

01:20:05.409 --> 01:20:07.430
tiny track there. Yeah, and it's like, what the

01:20:07.430 --> 01:20:10.090
fuck? Why did I do that? It became such a thing,

01:20:10.189 --> 01:20:12.390
it was just stupid. Yeah, they go, there's a

01:20:12.390 --> 01:20:14.729
little secret in there. And you're waiting, waiting,

01:20:14.850 --> 01:20:17.229
waiting, waiting, waiting. But you stay with

01:20:17.229 --> 01:20:19.569
it because you want to be able to tell everybody,

01:20:19.670 --> 01:20:22.550
oh yeah, I heard it. It's a buzzing sound for

01:20:22.550 --> 01:20:25.859
three minutes. I know in the 70s... the big trend

01:20:25.859 --> 01:20:28.539
was songs that faded out instead of having an

01:20:28.539 --> 01:20:31.460
ending. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because the radios loved

01:20:31.460 --> 01:20:33.579
that because they wanted to blend one song to

01:20:33.579 --> 01:20:35.840
another, so you never had a stopping point where

01:20:35.840 --> 01:20:37.619
you felt, okay, now I'm going to turn it off

01:20:37.619 --> 01:20:39.500
and go do something. Yeah. It's like, oh, wait

01:20:39.500 --> 01:20:41.380
till the song's over. Oh, wait, the next one's

01:20:41.380 --> 01:20:43.420
already started. It was to keep you listening.

01:20:43.779 --> 01:20:46.560
There's not so much of a post to hit. Yeah. You

01:20:46.560 --> 01:20:48.880
know, it was kind of like it's blended in, and

01:20:48.880 --> 01:20:51.020
you can kind of take it as far as you need to,

01:20:51.100 --> 01:20:53.739
that first drum beat or the first lyric. They'd

01:20:53.739 --> 01:20:55.579
be like, yeah, and that was Supertramp, and now

01:20:55.579 --> 01:20:57.279
we're going to go into a little bit of hard here.

01:20:57.539 --> 01:21:00.420
I heard that Nancy Wilson's doing very well after

01:21:00.420 --> 01:21:03.899
surgery, and here's Barracuda. And then, boom,

01:21:03.960 --> 01:21:06.720
you know. And in the 90s, it was the Hidden Tracks,

01:21:06.760 --> 01:21:08.880
or Bonus... No, it was Hidden Tracks. Hidden

01:21:08.880 --> 01:21:12.479
Tracks. And then, from the 2000s on, it was Bonus

01:21:12.479 --> 01:21:15.140
Tracks. Bonus Tracks. A lot of times, live versions

01:21:15.140 --> 01:21:19.760
of previous hits. And then, like, five or ten

01:21:19.760 --> 01:21:23.369
years ago, it was all about the... They were

01:21:23.369 --> 01:21:27.890
called in features. It was, you know, Eminem

01:21:27.890 --> 01:21:32.539
featuring LL Cool J. The next track, it was Eminem

01:21:32.539 --> 01:21:34.960
featuring someone else. There was a whole Carlos

01:21:34.960 --> 01:21:37.220
Santana album where everything was featuring

01:21:37.220 --> 01:21:40.060
someone else. They had Rob Thomas. Yeah, and

01:21:40.060 --> 01:21:43.859
that was the gimmick. I remember someone posting,

01:21:44.039 --> 01:21:46.359
oh, so -and -so's new album out, and here's the

01:21:46.359 --> 01:21:49.659
list of features on it. It's like, wait, I want

01:21:49.659 --> 01:21:51.939
an album by this person, not all these other

01:21:51.939 --> 01:21:53.819
people. Why can't they put out an album by themselves?

01:21:53.819 --> 01:21:56.060
Did he do anything, or did he just have everyone

01:21:56.060 --> 01:21:58.659
else do it? Yeah, is he incapable of making his

01:21:58.659 --> 01:22:01.100
own album and needs all this help? But it was

01:22:01.100 --> 01:22:02.720
a gimmick. Yeah, it was a gimmick. It was a gimmick

01:22:02.720 --> 01:22:05.520
of the time, and there was lots of cross -pollination

01:22:05.520 --> 01:22:08.199
and incest within the musical groups. Oh, yeah.

01:22:08.239 --> 01:22:12.220
And genres and stuff. How about backmasking in

01:22:12.220 --> 01:22:13.880
the 80s? Oh, yeah. How brave was that? That was

01:22:13.880 --> 01:22:16.539
the 80s. That was the backmasking era. Get someone

01:22:16.539 --> 01:22:19.000
to tear up their records so they can buy another

01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:23.920
one. Yep. That was awesome. And all they got

01:22:23.920 --> 01:22:26.500
to do is come up with some phrase like, the devil

01:22:26.500 --> 01:22:31.539
eats my shoes. Yes. Did you hear that? What?

01:22:32.140 --> 01:22:36.520
He said, the devil eats my shoes. Well, why did

01:22:36.520 --> 01:22:41.479
he say that? Well, satanic. How is devil eating

01:22:41.479 --> 01:22:43.319
your shoes? Well, I don't know, man. It says

01:22:43.319 --> 01:22:48.560
devil. It's trying to get kids familiarized with

01:22:48.560 --> 01:22:53.020
Satan. That's what it's trying to do. I don't

01:22:53.020 --> 01:22:55.340
know what the current gimmick or trend is in

01:22:55.340 --> 01:22:58.319
music now. I don't know if there is one. It may

01:22:58.319 --> 01:23:00.380
not be. I mean, there's so much else they can

01:23:00.380 --> 01:23:02.500
do to get you hooked to. Oh, pop -on artist.

01:23:03.579 --> 01:23:07.819
Oh, yeah. Not during the actual recording, but,

01:23:07.880 --> 01:23:11.119
like, they're out on stage, and all of a sudden,

01:23:11.180 --> 01:23:13.180
no ladies and gentlemen, nothing. All of a sudden,

01:23:13.199 --> 01:23:15.859
someone just comes out, famous, and starts singing.

01:23:15.920 --> 01:23:18.279
Oh, yeah, yeah. I call it the pop -on. They just

01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:20.399
jump out of nowhere and go, hey! You know, like,

01:23:20.479 --> 01:23:24.340
Jelly Roll jumps out in the middle of... Yeah.

01:23:24.989 --> 01:23:27.149
I don't know, Clint Black or whoever the fuck

01:23:27.149 --> 01:23:29.029
is me. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, you're right.

01:23:29.189 --> 01:23:32.090
That's a good one for that. Yeah, like Jelly

01:23:32.090 --> 01:23:34.409
Roll jumps in the middle of Hoosier doing some

01:23:34.409 --> 01:23:37.609
song. Yeah. Yeah. And even Jelly Roll himself

01:23:37.609 --> 01:23:39.949
was a gimmick. He was kind of the anti -hero.

01:23:40.289 --> 01:23:41.909
Yeah, yeah, he was. Oh, look, just a regular

01:23:41.909 --> 01:23:44.949
guy who started from nothing and look at all

01:23:44.949 --> 01:23:48.890
his tats. Yeah. He's a manufacturer from start

01:23:48.890 --> 01:23:52.039
to finish. I guarantee you that. Ten years ago,

01:23:52.100 --> 01:23:54.239
he didn't look a thing like he looks now, and

01:23:54.239 --> 01:23:55.520
he was a totally different person. He has a feel

01:23:55.520 --> 01:23:59.619
-good story. He's this big, fat guy that got

01:23:59.619 --> 01:24:02.760
the hot chick. He's a modern -day meatloaf, is

01:24:02.760 --> 01:24:05.319
what I call it, a modern -day meatloaf. But really,

01:24:05.500 --> 01:24:09.239
absolutely everything about his backstory, don't

01:24:09.239 --> 01:24:11.720
believe it. No, I know. He was manufactured.

01:24:12.739 --> 01:24:15.239
Because they won't tell you anything that doesn't

01:24:15.239 --> 01:24:17.659
suit the purpose of promoting him, so you're

01:24:17.659 --> 01:24:20.489
not getting the truth. No, you're right. I'm

01:24:20.489 --> 01:24:24.710
kind of tired of they give us way too much of

01:24:24.710 --> 01:24:27.050
one thing, and then they also give us the antidote.

01:24:27.109 --> 01:24:29.329
Oh, look, we're on your side. Look, here's the

01:24:29.329 --> 01:24:33.029
opposite. No. No, I agree. Yeah, it's just not

01:24:33.029 --> 01:24:41.029
a gimmick. It is. Yeah, you know, Jelly Roll

01:24:41.029 --> 01:24:44.029
is like the anti -Rockstar Rockstar, and that's

01:24:44.029 --> 01:24:46.630
why people loved him so much was he was like

01:24:46.630 --> 01:24:49.069
the guy down the road. that got picked on all

01:24:49.069 --> 01:24:51.930
the time that could sing. He was kind of like

01:24:51.930 --> 01:24:54.989
the American Idol guy that came out of Paducah,

01:24:54.989 --> 01:25:01.029
Kentucky in a two -room house singing about his

01:25:01.029 --> 01:25:06.029
mama dying. When Chef Rachel Ray came onto the

01:25:06.029 --> 01:25:08.710
scene, she had kind of the same backstory image.

01:25:08.810 --> 01:25:14.449
She's just the gal next door. She's got an accent.

01:25:14.529 --> 01:25:19.250
She doesn't speak. French chef terms. She's just

01:25:19.250 --> 01:25:21.449
like the gal next door. I forgot all about her.

01:25:21.449 --> 01:25:24.109
But that was just an image. She was the same

01:25:24.109 --> 01:25:28.229
business person who did whatever she needed to

01:25:28.229 --> 01:25:31.069
to get rich. Is she even around anymore? Yes.

01:25:32.270 --> 01:25:34.689
She's actually still doing a cooking show but

01:25:34.689 --> 01:25:38.550
not by herself. She has a young man. I don't

01:25:38.550 --> 01:25:40.529
know if it's her son or a relative or a friend

01:25:40.529 --> 01:25:45.399
or something. But Rachel Ray is absolutely committed

01:25:45.399 --> 01:25:49.420
to the grandma vibe she wears these you know

01:25:49.420 --> 01:25:52.880
big puffy fuzzy sweaters she's got a grandma

01:25:52.880 --> 01:25:57.500
haircut she doesn't do much to glam up she has

01:25:57.500 --> 01:26:00.060
giant glasses that she wears halfway down her

01:26:00.060 --> 01:26:03.739
nose like a grandma that's interesting yeah she's

01:26:03.739 --> 01:26:07.060
totally embracing the i'm a cooking grandma she

01:26:07.060 --> 01:26:10.060
was kind of like a southern italian chef uh -huh

01:26:10.060 --> 01:26:12.760
yeah it was interesting because she is obviously

01:26:12.760 --> 01:26:16.479
very italian And had a very Italian flair. Yeah.

01:26:16.600 --> 01:26:19.420
But she also come from the South, right? Wasn't

01:26:19.420 --> 01:26:22.579
that the story? I think she's from the New York

01:26:22.579 --> 01:26:26.439
area. Oh, is she? Okay. And really her intro

01:26:26.439 --> 01:26:30.619
to fame was she was the personal chef for, yeah,

01:26:30.659 --> 01:26:33.500
noted pedophile Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:26:34.260 --> 01:26:37.439
That was how she got her break. Allegedly. Yeah.

01:26:37.460 --> 01:26:40.500
Oh, yeah. No, I don't think she really did work

01:26:40.500 --> 01:26:42.180
for her. I don't think that was alleged that

01:26:42.180 --> 01:26:44.939
she worked for a noted pedophile over a window.

01:26:45.180 --> 01:26:50.680
Yeah. Allegedly. I'm sorry, allegedly is so much

01:26:50.680 --> 01:26:53.979
fun to me. It is, yes. Because everything, it's

01:26:53.979 --> 01:26:57.560
like, well, it's sunny out, allegedly. It's so

01:26:57.560 --> 01:27:00.359
fun when the news falls all over themselves to

01:27:00.359 --> 01:27:02.899
say allegedly. I know. The other day they said...

01:27:03.239 --> 01:27:06.340
he was allegedly accused of. It's like, no, no,

01:27:06.359 --> 01:27:08.600
he really was accused. He was accused of it.

01:27:08.619 --> 01:27:11.500
He was accused of allegedly doing it. But it's

01:27:11.500 --> 01:27:14.159
like the newsreaders can't figure that part out.

01:27:14.699 --> 01:27:18.460
Yeah, and also it's funny because they cannot

01:27:18.460 --> 01:27:21.960
deviate from their script so bad. Yep. If they

01:27:21.960 --> 01:27:24.479
mess up one word, you see them lost. They're

01:27:24.479 --> 01:27:27.720
panicking. Wouldn't that be a great job to have

01:27:27.720 --> 01:27:31.020
as a newsreader? There are only two qualifications

01:27:31.020 --> 01:27:33.939
you need. One, be able to read the teleprompter

01:27:33.939 --> 01:27:36.760
without making too many mistakes. And two, be

01:27:36.760 --> 01:27:38.960
appealing to the people they want to watch the

01:27:38.960 --> 01:27:42.560
show. That's it. They don't write any of the

01:27:42.560 --> 01:27:44.340
stuff they're reading. They don't research the

01:27:44.340 --> 01:27:46.560
stories. They don't do a damn thing except read

01:27:46.560 --> 01:27:49.100
the teleprompter that's in front of them. Sounds

01:27:49.100 --> 01:27:50.939
like a pretty good gig to me. That sounds like

01:27:50.939 --> 01:27:53.600
an awesome gig. As long as the audience likes

01:27:53.600 --> 01:27:57.670
looking at you, you've got a job. Yeah. Yeah,

01:27:57.670 --> 01:27:59.869
yeah. Remember when they used to be journalists?

01:28:00.250 --> 01:28:03.329
They used to go to college to learn how to be

01:28:03.329 --> 01:28:05.949
a reporter and how to do journalism. Now it's

01:28:05.949 --> 01:28:08.489
all ass kissing. Yeah. It's like we're not calling

01:28:08.489 --> 01:28:11.550
on that guy. He's always giving us shit. Here's

01:28:11.550 --> 01:28:14.670
today's paid news stories. Yes. We're going to

01:28:14.670 --> 01:28:17.010
cover the Whataburger opening because they paid

01:28:17.010 --> 01:28:19.949
us a bunch to cover it on the news. Pfizer needs

01:28:19.949 --> 01:28:22.550
this fluff piece after they killed 30 million

01:28:22.550 --> 01:28:27.399
people with whatever. Yep. Look, Pfizer is saving

01:28:27.399 --> 01:28:32.880
puppy dogs in Ethiopia. Yes. Come here, Fido.

01:28:33.100 --> 01:28:35.199
And people are angry at the mayor, so let's show

01:28:35.199 --> 01:28:38.140
him a groundbreaking somewhere. Yeah. Cha -ching.

01:28:42.180 --> 01:28:45.359
There you go. On one hand, it would be awesome

01:28:45.359 --> 01:28:47.600
to be a newsreader, but on the other hand, you

01:28:47.600 --> 01:28:49.199
wouldn't be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

01:28:49.680 --> 01:28:52.159
No. Because you're just kind of the mouthpiece

01:28:52.159 --> 01:28:55.510
for the assholes in charge. Yeah, you might as

01:28:55.510 --> 01:28:57.949
well go get the receipt for your asshole you

01:28:57.949 --> 01:29:00.829
sold. Yep. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Hope

01:29:00.829 --> 01:29:03.050
you got a lot for your soul because you only

01:29:03.050 --> 01:29:11.350
had the one. Yeah. Let's end this train wreck.

01:29:11.409 --> 01:29:13.590
Yeah, let's do it. All right. Okay. Okay, everybody,

01:29:13.850 --> 01:29:15.590
thank you for listening. We really appreciate

01:29:15.590 --> 01:29:18.210
it. Your listenership means everything to us.

01:29:18.310 --> 01:29:23.000
Go fuck yourself. Oh, no. Looks like the show's

01:29:23.000 --> 01:29:26.619
over, kids. Mark has explosive diarrhea and can't

01:29:26.619 --> 01:29:30.060
afford a wireless mic. Fear not, assholes. They'll

01:29:30.060 --> 01:29:31.899
be back invading your ear holes soon.