Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps
Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This
is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. Sepultura
guitarist Andreas Kaiser spoke about the band's
plans to release new music with Sepultura's current
touring drummer, 23 -year -old Grayson Neckerman,
who officially replaced Sepultura's longtime
drummer, Elroy Casagrande, in February 2024.
He said, as transcribed by blabralt .no, we recorded
four new songs with Grayson on drums. I don't
think anybody knows that, but there you go. We
have four new songs, and we have the intention
next year to release them in an EP. This is Johnny
Rohypnol. That was your music news, and remember,
bar chords are bullshit. You got something you
want to lead off with? I got bullet points. I
got a couple of stories. I don't know if this
is still relevant, but I think it's kind of sad
and depressing that Roger Waters continues to
try to defend himself and claim that he did nothing
wrong and it was all the drummer's fault and
everyone's lying but him. It's just kind of sad
at this point. Roger Daltrey or Roger Waters?
I'm sorry, Roger Daltrey. Oh, okay. So we've
got two bad Rogers. I'm just winning on Roger
Waters. But yeah, Roger Daltrey is still whining
about it wasn't my fault and the drummer is too
loud. Yeah. Concerning what The Who used to be,
I mean, they were kind of punk before they were
punk. Yeah, he's really become a whiny bitch.
Yeah, it's... Very unbecoming for someone like
Roger Daltrey, and that should never happen.
You know, as far as I'm concerned, he should
have just been like, you know what, it was a
mistake no matter who did it. Yeah. Whatever,
you know. Imagine how different things would
be if he just said, oh, well, you know, things
happen, it's live music, oh, well, and then just
leave it at that. Yeah, he should have. Yeah.
God. Yeah, but doing that whining bitch stuff
is so unbecoming. People hate that. I hate it.
You hate it. And the only reason I'm bringing
it up is because Roger Daltrey is still bringing
it up. I know. But good on Pete Townsend. He's
moved on totally. He's like, I'm already making
plans for my next thing. It's like, I'm going
to go ahead with this. Yeah, he gave up on doing
the Who stuff. He says right now it's not going
to work because Daltrey is a babbling fool. There's
no way. It was iffy before, but now it's just
like, nah, forget it. Yeah, so now he's kind
of like, oh, I got these projects going on. I
think that's awesome. He's just kind of like,
as soon as we finish this, I got this and this
going on. Yeah, I think that will wind up being
the last performance of The Who. I think so.
I think so. And Zach Starkey, coincidentally,
I think I told this on the last Music Creeps
was. His biggest regret was not joining Black
Sabbath back in 2003. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, he would
have been awesome. He would have. He would have
fit in great. Yeah, he would have brought a little
more of that 70s out of control vibe back to
Ozzy. Yeah, I was getting ready to say that Ozzy
would have him on speed dial every day. Hey,
do you think you could call Paul today? Hey,
how about Ringo? Can you call your dad? Hey,
tell him I said hi, will you? I'm right over
here. Tell him I said hi. Oh, it could have been.
Like Davey said, there's a rumor that Paul McCartney
sang Let It Be at Ozzy's Graveside. Oh, wow.
And Davey said, I'll bet you Ozzy jumped up.
But it turned out to be fake, fake news. But,
man, it sounded great. His idol, yeah. So Roger
Waters, let's talk about him too. Oh, that fucking
idiot. Okay. You want to go ahead and go with
it? His comments, pretty much? Yeah. In an interview,
Roger Waters was expressing contempt and disdain
for Ozzy and his entire career. Yeah. He described
everything Ozzy did on TV as idiocy and nonsense.
Yeah. And he... denigrated Ozzy's on -stage performance
by jumping around in the antics and kind of crapped
on his music. Just basically shitting all over
Ozzy and his memory and his legacy. It just is
so stunning to see Roger Waters do that of his
own volition. What is he trying to accomplish
by bringing so much hatred on himself? Yeah,
you're talking one of the most beloved figures
ever in music. Yeah. Right after he dies. Right
after he dies. Everyone's still mourning. It's
still very fresh. I love what Jack did as his
son. Good for him. Yeah. Let me see if I can
find the official tweet back after Roger Waters
went off talking about what a boob that... Ozzy
was and his whole legacy. Several options are
Roger Waters really didn't know what he was doing,
in which case he needs to be looked after and
cared for. If he did know what he was doing and
did it anyway, it shows that he doesn't care
who he hurts. He just wants to hurt people to
get attention. If he really thought it was going
to be okay and it was going to just fly under
the radar, he's delusional. I don't understand
what he thought was going to work out in his
favor by doing any of this. No, I don't either.
And this is what Jack wrote back, okay? And it
said, hey, at Roger Waters, fuck you. How pathetic
and out of touch you become on his Instagram
account. And he put this on Roger Waters' Instagram
account after he trashed his dad, adding that
his father, Ozzy Osbourne, always thought Waters
was a cunt. And Osborne's response was in reaction
to August 2025 interview where Waters dismissed
Oz's music and cultural contributions, calling
them idiocy and nonsense, like you said. Jack
went on to say on that, thanks for proving my
father right. He certainly did. He did. Now,
okay, like you said, Roger Waters. Had a lot
of stuff obviously happen to him in his childhood.
Yeah. I'm not defending him. I can't stand the
guy. I cannot stand him. No. Okay, but here's
the deal. That, to me, screams of someone hurt
inside so bad. Yeah. They can't stand to see
someone get love and recognition. I think that's
another big part of it. He thinks. I was better
than Ozzy ever was. Why am I getting all this
love and attention and adulation and acceptance?
He'll never get it. Surly fucker. He'll never
get it. He doesn't understand that you've got
to give something back. You don't just stand
there and receive. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. To me, it's
a cry out. Yeah. Nobody takes me seriously anymore.
Nobody cares that I used to be a huge rock star.
Everyone looks at me as a broken -down, pathetic
piece of raveled -up shit. I think the way we
should all start referring to him now... Am I
talking about Howard Stern or Roger Waters? Either
one. Okay, all right. I think the way we should
refer to Roger Waters from now on is, hey, didn't
he used to play bass for David Gilmour? Yes.
I think that should be the essence of Roger Waters'
legacy. David Gilmour is bass player? Yep. That
dumb one? His sometime bass player. Yeah. That's
the best right there. That's the best. Well,
let's take a moment to think about who would
be the Roger Waters fan from this point on. What
would a Roger Waters fan be like? Okay, number
one, they've got to have tiny fists. Yeah, yeah.
They've got to like kale. Yeah. Yeah, even though
they don't even know what kale is. They've got
to make sure they're okay with crapping on everything
that isn't. bootlicking yeah yeah they think
that seaweed is the perfect food yeah yeah um
they look they look to roger waters to tell them
what to think every day yeah yeah they listen
to npr constantly um they donate to npr yes oh
even worse yeah yeah I would say that's definitely
a Roger Waters fan. Yeah, yeah, definitely, definitely.
Roger Waters fan is a person that thinks that
we should all redistribute wealth, but not their
own wealth. Yes, yes, yes, yeah. Oh, no, not
mine, yours. Yeah, just like a great Ben and
Jerry caper. We'll start giving back your land.
Yep. See, a Roger Waters fan is the person who
thinks... that we should have open borders and
free immigration, yet they have seven illegals
on their payroll. Yes. That's a Roger Waters
fan. The whole theme of hypocrisy going. Yes.
A Rogers Waters fan is a justice warrior, what
do they call them? A right fighter. Yeah, yeah,
yeah. They always have to be right. Yep, yep.
And they always got to have a problem with something.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chronic complainer. Why do
we put dogs on leashes? That's cruel. Yeah. Well,
maybe so they don't get hit by a car. No, they're
supposed to be able to run around because they're
a dog. Yeah, and they want to ban cars so dogs
can run free. Dogs are... Cars are evil. Roger
Waters fan is a person who thinks that they're
right about everything and everyone else has
just got shit for brains. Yeah, yeah. That's
a Roger Waters fan. Yeah, and whenever you tell
them something that makes sense, they won't answer.
Fingers in the ears, stomping on the ground.
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So, all right, well, I've got
lead singer fight, fist fight. I've got lead
singers pitted up against each other. This could
be fun. And I want to know who's going to win
this and why. Okay. The first one is Robert Plant
versus Mick Jagger. Wow. I'm going to say Mick
Jagger. I think Mick Jagger, yeah. I think Mick
Jagger would fight dirty. I think he'd win. I
think he'd smack me in the head and go, stop
me up. Stop me up, I never stop. And then hit
him again. I could definitely see that happening.
Yeah. I'm going to write down some. Oh, okay.
That's cool. How about Axl Rose versus Dave Mustaine,
Battle of the Gingers? Whoa. I think I'd go with
Dave. I would, too. The ex -heroin addict has
got a mean streak. Devil worshiper. Yeah. Yeah.
He's definitely got a mean streak. Oh, and he
also had throat cancer and survived. Yeah. Yeah.
Dave Mustaine would murder him. I mean, like...
If they started fighting last Friday, he would
still be kicking his ass in the corner. Yeah.
Every time Axel raised his head, he would jump
back over there and kick him in the face and
go, get back down, bitch. All right, the next
one is James Hatfield versus Vince Neal. I think
that's pretty... Hatfield. Yeah, here's why I
said that. Vince Neal's Mexican, and they are
known scrappers. Yeah. But I think James Hatfield's
one of those... Not quite a country boy, but
a sort of almost a good old boy. Almost like
a good old boy. Yeah. I can see him hitting Vince
Neal. Yeah. Yeah. If Vince Neal would be handing
the mic to him to sing. Here, here, kickstart
my heart, here. How about David Lee Roth versus
Jon Bon Jovi? Wow. Got to go with the Jersey
boy. Yeah. Bon Jovi, yeah. Because Dave Lee Roth
would be looking in the mirror going, he didn't
leave a scuff, did he? Yeah, he'd be yelling,
not the face, not the face. Get me in my little
silo, the one that everybody's making fun of
in the spandex, the little wrinkly meat whistle.
He's packing a gherkin. Yeah. It looks like a
little meat thimble. Oh, my God. How sad. Oh,
yeah. Of course, he'll tell you he's a grower
and not a shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean,
if you're going to do that, fucking throw a sock
in there. Come on. Gosh. But no, no, no. He wants
that little meat thimble to fucking show, I guess.
All right. Next one. I like this one a lot. Ryan
Johnson versus Bruce Dickinson. Ooh. That one
right there, I think, is going to come down to
like eight rounds. Yeah. And I think if Bruce
Dickinson's going to outlast him because he was
a fencer. Yeah, yeah. And he's in great shape.
He's probably got some endurance. Yeah, he's
got some endurance. I think that he'd be able
to probably be much faster than Brian Johnson.
Yeah, yeah, I could see that speed would be on
his side. He's a little taller, too. He has better
reach. If Brian Johnson could get near his nuts,
it's over. It's over. Yeah. Brian Johnson will
bite those motherfuckers off. Snap. Yeah. He'll
be like, okay, okay, Brian, that's enough. Oh,
I like this one. But, yeah, Ronnie James Dio's
been resurrected. He's not in the ground, okay?
He's still alive. He's still, he's immortal alive,
okay? Uh -huh. In this alternate world. He never
did die yet. Versus Rob Halford. I know. Now,
can the little short guy beat the big gay guy?
Yeah, I think so. I think so, too. But Rob Halford
is a very tough gay guy. He is a very tough man,
yes. I think I'm going to go with Rob Halford
just a little. I think that, I don't know. But
he was a scrapper, kind of skinny little guy.
I think I'll go with Dio. He's like the little
terrier that's running around between your legs
and biting your ankles. He'd be jumping on his
fucking shoulders and hitting him on the head.
First he's just biting your ankles, and then
he rips your hamstring out. You're like, ugh!
I'm done for! Sorry, Rob. All right, how about
Bruce Springsteen versus John Mellencamp? Mellencamp.
Mellencamp, Indiana boy. Indiana versus New York,
hell yeah. Yeah. John Millick had to go, hey,
Bruce, come here, look at this. And then Bruce
would go to look at it, and he thinks it's a
watch, and he punches him in the face and goes,
that's what. That's what, Bruce. And finally,
Ozzy Osbourne, but before he passed away, obviously,
before he had the park, and before he had the
accident versus Ian Gillett. I'll go Ozzy. I
go Ozzy too. Even though Ozzy is really kind
of a peaceful, pacifist kind of guy, if he needed
to, he could mess somebody up. I think he would
go fucking monkey insane on them. Yeah. He'd
start screaming like weird things and nobody
knew what it was. He'd tap into that ant snorting
Ozzy and let him loose. I snorted ants, man.
I can kick your ass. He would make mongoloid
noises and beat the shit out of them. He'd be
like the guy in Altered States that starts mutating
into different forms. Yeah. Well, I came up with
a few while you were talking. Okay, cool. That's
why I just kept going is because I've seen you
writing. I'm like, all right, he's coming up
with something. Sorry, I forgot to warn you about
this. I just, like, wrote about it last night.
It's fun doing a spur of the moment. Yeah. First
battle, Hat Benatar versus Lizzie Hale. Oh. Pat
Benatar is so tough. She is. She's small and
wiry. Yeah, yeah. But so is Lizzie Hale. I think
Lizzie would just pick up her guitar and smack
Pat Benatar over the head with it and say, there's
my best shot. I think so. I'm going to go with
Lizzie. And I think Pat Benatar would go, okay,
I'll see you. I'm going to run. I'm going to
hide. I'm going to leave your side. It may well
go fast. Yeah, yeah, I can see that. Okay. Alright,
I also had Rob Halford, but I had him going up
against Lemmy. Oh, shit. I'm going to have to
go with the guy, any guy that has warts on his
face and embraces him, I'm going to go with Lemmy.
I think Lemmy, yeah. At any point, Lemmy could
have had a rat chew that thing off his face,
but he decided not to. No, no, no. And I could
see him beating the shit out of him going, kill
by death. Kill by death. The sounds he makes
when he's singing that song is fucking awesome.
He was a unique talent, was he not? Listen to
it. Google it. Whatever. I'm going to. Oh, my
God. All right. Blast for the past. Johnny Rotten
versus Joey Ramone. Oh. Joey Ramone's such a
street fighter, but Johnny Rotten is fucking
Johnny Rotten. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to have
to go with Johnny Rotten, even though I think
Joey Ramone could probably kick about anyone
else's ass, except Johnny Rotten. Yeah. Johnny
Rotten would bite his nose off. He would. Yeah,
he would jump up and just go, bite it off, spit
it in his face, and ask him if he wanted more.
I think I'm going to go with Joey Ramone because
he'd get all his brothers to come in and beat
the shit out of him with him. Yeah, yeah. Let's
wobble stomp this guy. Okay, I can see either
one of them happening. That's cool. All right.
Elton John versus Boy George. Oh, Elton John.
Elton John all the way. Yeah, absolutely. Not
too difficult. Oh, yeah, Elton John would be
like, hey, Mr. George, come here. I've got something
to tell you. He gets ready to whisper in his
ear, and he fucking hits him right in his membrane
with his nose, with his palm, and kills him.
He'll take his head and slam the piano's cover
down. Yeah, that's it. He's going to curb stomp
him on the piano. Piano stomping. Yeah, piano
stomping. Come here, Mr. George. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, what are you? That's what I think, Mr.
George. And then you hit him again because he
knocked your piano out of tune. Yeah. Fucking
bastard. Do you know how long I spent putting
that in tune? You got makeup all over it. Damn.
Yeah, you may not want to keep your teeth. I
know stuff you're into, but if you do want to
keep your teeth, I know a great dentist. There
we go. Anyhow, go ahead. Allegedly. Allegedly.
John Mayer versus Dave Matthews. Ouch. As much
as it pains me to say, I think I'm going to have
to go with John Mayer. I think so, too. Even
though he's such a pompous twit. Yes. But Dave
Matthews, I don't see Dave Matthews going, do
you want some of my kale? No, I don't want your
fucking kale. I think Dave Matthews is a decent
actor. Yeah, but it ends about right there. Besides
that, he shit on people. Yeah, that's true. He
dumped his turds on people. People are down below
the grid. You know someone had to look up and
write his response. Damn. Anything involving
bodily fluids is nasty, but that's even extra
nasty. I mean, they did get a lot of money, but,
I mean, still. There's no amount of money you
could pay me to have anybody's crap dumped on
me. They're looking up, you know, way in their
nose and eye. You would never feel clean again.
No. I mean, you could take nine showers a day
for a year, and you'd never feel clean again.
And every time you really stop and think about
it, you almost vomit. You've got to eat more.
Yeah. Just have to pretend you're a different
person. All right, my final matchup. Ann Wilson,
apart, versus Madonna and Gwen Stefani. Now keep
in mind that recently Ann Wilson, who's battled
cancer for a second time, and had her arm in
a sling, sat on a stage in a wheelchair and belted
it out and sounded like she did when she was
25. I'm going to go with Ann Wilson. I'm going
to go with Ann Wilson, even in the wheelchair
and her arm in a sling. She would take Madonna
and shove him up Gwen Stefani's ass. And then
she would pick up Gwen Stefani by the ankles
and smack Madonna with her. Yeah. Like a baseball
bat. Yeah. And then she'd order them both the
fuck out. Yes. Call them a barracuda and tell
them to leave. Yeah. Perfect. Awesome. I saw
a video recently about Jerry Cantrell of Alice
in Chains and his live rig. Which we might go
to because tickets are so low, or at least they
were. Yeah, we'll have to check again because
that sounds like an awesome show. Yeah. But I've
seen a number of these videos. It's the live
rig rundown. I saw the one for Angus Young of
ACDC, and I learned that I have one of the same
guitars as him. Oh, really? You've got an SG?
A black Gibson SG Standard 61 reissue. Okay.
There's a unique story about it, and also, Tony,
I owe me two about playing SGs. They went to
him because they were easier, the frets were
easier, I think. Yeah, yeah, the whole neck is
shifted farther away from the body, so it's easier
to reach higher up the neck. They both wanted
a Les Paul sound, but they didn't like the stock,
I believe is what the story is. Les Pauls are
heavy. Yeah, yeah, and they like the SG. The
SG had a close enough sound with the right electronics
behind it, you know, so they're like, that's
why they both play SGs, and other musicians do
too. Yep, Frank Zappa, Derek Trucks. Yeah. Leslie
West of Mountain. Leslie West of Mountain, yeah.
And he had an incredible tone. Yeah. Yeah. Okay,
anyhow. So they were running down Jerry's live
rig, and his three main guitars are G and L.
He didn't say the model. of the guitar, but he's
got two of the exact same. Who makes those? G
&L was Leo Fender's third company. Okay. I knew
there was a story there. Leo Fender started Fender,
and then in the 70s he sold it to CBS. He's Freddy
Fender's brother. Yes. And then he started Music
Man with another person, ran that for a while,
sold it to somebody, and then started G &L. And
he's L. He's Leo. He has the L and G and L. Oh.
But since he's Leo Fender, he can make guitars
that look exactly like Stratocasters and Telecasters,
and nobody can say anything because he invented
them. He invented them. Yeah. So Jerry was working
in a music store, and he saw this guitar. It's
kind of like a Super Strat with one pickup and
a Floyd Rose wiggle stick. and it was on sale
for $800, so he saved the $800 and bought it.
And then like a month later, another one came
in that was very, very, very, very similar, same
model and everything. So he put that one on a
layaway and bought that one too. So he has two
of the exact same model, but they have different
pickups in them. He's changed out the pickups.
And then he's got a Gibson Les Paul that he took
a torch and burned little leopard spots all over
it. which looks pretty distinctive. Okay. And
he said those three guitars are 90 % of what
you hear live and 90 % of what you hear on the
record. No kidding. Yeah. Okay. And then he's
got, you know, some Telecaster looking ones and
he's got a Gibson Flying V that was given to
him and some other stuff. But he said these three
ones, the first one he called Blue Dress. Because,
I guess, of the design. I thought it was named
after Monica. I guess. And then the second one
was called No War. But he referred to them by
their nicknames instead of their model names.
Okay. All right. But then they went over to his
amplifier rig. Uh -huh. And what he uses is Bogner
preamps. And he called them fish preamps. And
they have an old design of a fish skeleton on
them. I don't know if that's the real model name
or not. They said they're not easy to find. But
what he does is a total rack mount system. He
has no combo amps, no amp heads sitting around.
It's all in one big rack case. Like sliding in
like components. And he had two Bogner preamps
that he's had modified to give a darker sound.
It's got several power amps, EQ effects, just
all sorts of stuff. But the thing that was most
impressive to me is right in the middle of that
big rack of all sorts of guitar goodness is a
great big sticker that says, I'd rather be masturbating.
And I thought, this is Jerry Cantrell of Alice
in Chains. He's playing on stage to tens of thousands
of screaming fans, and he'd still rather be masturbating.
It shows you he's an average guy. He's just a
regular guy. A regular guy. He's like, damn it.
It sure would be nice to get some computer time
away from these fucks. That impressed me about
Jerry. He's definitely someone that does not
take himself totally seriously. No, no, no. I
love him because of that. And also, he's fantastic
because, like we were talking on the way down
here. He is the music. He is the reason Alice
in Chains was Alice in Chains. Lane Staley was
great. No doubt about it. But, I mean, it's kind
of like Zach Wild doing Ozzy stuff, you know?
There's not that big of a difference in the singing.
Or Phil Collins filling in after Peter Gabriel
left Genesis. They sounded the same. Yeah, it's
so close that... You know, I don't see any problem
with it at all, him just touring as Jerry Cantrell
instead of Alice in Chains. Now, they still do
tour as Alice in Chains, but it looks to me like
they do festivals pretty much, and that's it.
I think so, yeah. Yeah, where they could go out
there and see like 10 ,000 people or more. Yeah.
To where, like, he's going to be playing the
uptown. And the tickets were going for $32 .50
a couple of days ago. And I'm monitoring that.
That's a steal. Yeah. If they stay somewhere
in that ballpark, you and I are going next summer.
Yeah. Even if there's no opening act. There is
an opening act. I can't think of the name of
it. Oh, well. But I don't even want an opening
act. I'd rather just see Jerry Cantrell come
out and play. Yeah. True. Hey there, slap nets.
It's time for the Creeps Music News. Hey, my
little pumpkin seeds. This is Johnny Rohypnol
with your music news. During an appearance on
July 8th episode of SiriusXM's Trunk Nation,
Tony Omi spoke about some of his upcoming music
-related projects, including a full -length collection
of new material from legendary Black Sabbath
guitarist. Tony said, as transcribed by Blabbermouth
.net, Well, at the moment, I was doing my own
album until Back to the Beginning event came
up, and then of course I had to stop and concentrate
on preparing for the Sabbath performance. But
I'm continuing next week to try to finish off
when I started with this album. And then who
knows what I'm going to do. It's great, really.
Because if something pops up, I'll do it if I
want to do it. Asked if his upcoming album is
a Tony Omi solo record with guests on it, like
he's done before with the legendary 2000s IOMI,
the guitarist responded, at the moment, no. I've
got one singer on it, which I originally thought
of different singers, but it started off as it
was going to be an instrumental album, and it's
gone from that into a full -fledged Tony Iommi
project. But then I thought, oh, wait, I want
to try it with a singer. So that's what I've
been doing. This is Johnny Rohypnol. That was
your music news, and remember, bar chords are
bullshit. I've got to see his guitaring. I mean,
you know he's going to be playing a lot of the
classics. Yeah. You know, how about Angry Chair?
Would you love to hear that live? That would
be good. I never did get to see Alice in Chains
live. I did. Because they kept canceling shows
when I was able to go. I've seen them open up
for Ozzy down in Lampy, Missouri. Wow. And I
think I told you about that, the Hill Jacks that
were jumping off the cliff. I was getting mad
because I couldn't watch the show. It was too
compelling. Yeah, my friend is a little male.
She kept like nudging me going, hey, hey. And
I'm like, oh shit, there's another jumper. I
was relieved when they got up there. The security
got up there, roped it off and stood in front
of me. I was like, okay, good, good. Now I don't
have to watch this anymore. Well, security ended
up leaving and people ended up jumping again
too. And I'm like, it was a great show. But I
can't really tell you what happened. I wonder
how many people are paralyzed now because they
jumped off that sucker. A couple of them. I'm
wondering if they're even alive. Oh, yeah. Oh,
one guy was not moving. And his leg was, like,
in a position it shouldn't be in. Wow. Compounding
something. Yeah. It's weird that you can break
your leg so badly that you die. That's a weird
thing to think about. I'll tell you what, man.
I think if that's what... If that happened there,
it was that guy. Yeah. And he was like the first
one that failed. The first three jumped and ran
into the crowd. This guy. He didn't see the way
they tucked and rolled. No, he did not. He didn't
land on the soft spot. He landed crumpled. He
just like crumpled. He didn't do like the other
guys where they're like flat footed and went
out to the crowd. But, no, Allison James was
fantastic. I've also seen them. open up for metallica
that would be good i've seen them open up for
kiss that was a good show yeah and they always
put on a great show a lot of energy uh lane staley
was really really good but i would personally
i like this version of it i loved his katarin
the best out of all of it and i would love just
these things are good enough for me yeah so so
hopefully Hopefully the tickets will stay within
range and we'll both go there and see a good
concert. That'd be nice. Uptown's a pretty nice
place as far as the acoustics go. It's a great
place to hear. The last time I was there, they
had a large number of very, very bright lights
on the stage shining out into the audience that
would wiggle around every few minutes. And that
was to discourage you from videoing the concert.
What was it? Who was it? It was Chris Isaac.
It was his Christmas concert a couple years ago.
But some of those lights are also designed to
actually ruin your camera. If it goes directly
into the lens, it will destroy your camera. So
video at your own risk, I guess. And I imagine
somewhere in the fine print on the ticket you
bought, it says you agreed to it. Oh, well, sure.
So don't worry about suing. You can't. It's not
going to. You agreed to this, so get the fuck
out of here. Businesses figure everything out
in advance now. Oh, hell yeah, they do. Yeah.
All right. Do you want to do some bullet points?
I love bullet points. Okay. Will there ever be
a resurgent in music you own? As in, like, you
open it up, you got this beautiful poster, you
got this artwork, you get to see who produced
what, you get to see who guessed it on what?
I think so. I think the physical form is definitely
going to come back. It's never going to be like
it was. No, not, no. But I think people are seeing
there are some limitations to this digital music.
Number one, the audio quality is not there. It's
horrible. Number two, you always have to go through
somebody that you're paying in order to get access
to music you supposedly already own. Yeah, but
you don't ever own it, and you always have to
re -ask for permission anyway. It's bullshit.
Yeah, and every time they say, oh, problem with
your account, create a new password, that's so
they can get you to sign new terms of service
and give up more of your rights. And there's
also the problem with... Music can disappear
that way. If you don't own the physical form
of it... And it has disappeared. Yeah, Motley
Crue is erasing that album that John Karabi sang
on All But One Song. I'm so happy. Most places,
you just can't find that. I got that in Quaternary,
both. Yeah. Quaternary was a little five -episode,
five -song EP. that they did with John Carabi,
too. And it's very, very good. And you can only
get it by buying the CD and sending off for it
in the mail. This is 1995. You could have went
to the Internet and ordered it, maybe. Not that
I knew of, but the only way I knew of ordering
it, you open up that CD that sold 10, and you
grab that thing, and you send it in and buy it.
Yep. So... Here's a parallel. Back in 76, 77,
when Star Wars came out and was a big deal, they
still didn't realize exactly what they had on
their hands. So the following Christmas, they
had a Star Wars Christmas special, a holiday
special. Oh, that was disgusting. Oh, it's the
worst piece of garbage and crap. Didn't he have,
like, Art Carney? Yeah, just old, old comedians
that were popular in the 40s. Yeah. It was just
so immensely out of touch, and they started changing
Star Wars lore left and right. Was Bea Arthur?
I think Bea Arthur was in it, and maybe Art Carney.
Yeah. Those were the ones that you could get
cheap. I think Paul Lind was in it. Paul Lind
was probably, yeah. After it aired... Oh, Chewbacca's
wife? Yes, and his kids. And they were sitting
around having Wookiee Christmas. Yes. I wonder
if there was a Wookiee Jesus. I don't know. I
can't remember. But I remember I was young and
thought that would suck. I'm like, oh, this is
stupid. After it aired, George Lucas went out
and he bought every physical copy he could find.
And he pulled them all from video rental stores
and warehouses. He's like, I want every copy
of this found and destroyed. He didn't get every
one of them. He thought he had, but there's still
some that survive. You can go on YouTube and
watch either parts of it or the whole thing.
But still, that's something that they can digitally
remove now. Yeah, and it pisses me off because
you already bought it. And then like Motley Crue,
Motley Crue, you're not going to get it online
anymore. And even if it's on your phone, they'll
reach into your phone and erase it. If you've
got it on like a memory stick or something. Isn't
that crazy? The first time you plug that into
something connected, it'll get erased. And that's
why everything is connected now. So they always
can keep track of what you're doing and what
you're listening to and what you're watching.
And then they can take away the things to make
you buy the new. It's complete bullshit is what
it is. I think people are catching on to that
eventually. It's like it's expensive. to constantly
be streaming and if you lose service, I mean,
if there's a blackout, you're done. You're not
getting anything. No, I agree. But, you know,
I've got a battery pack. I can fire up a turntable
and listen to music. Yep. So I think if physical
form of music is going to come back and the fashionable
and the trendy and the people who love the latest
buzzwords, they're going to be the ones who stick
with digital. Yeah, I agree. They'll value convenience
over everything. Those are the ones that are
going to stick with digital. No, whenever I buy
a new CD, I make sure that it includes a digital.
That way I've got them on both. I've got the
physical and I've got the electronic. All right.
Is image even a thing in rock music anymore?
No, I don't think so. It isn't, is it? No. I
think image is important in pop music. But not
rock. And in R &B and hip -hop. Even country.
And definitely in country. Remember those old
hip -hop songs where they would intentionally
use an auto -tune and make it very, very, very
obvious? Yes. So it sounded all weird and phasy
while they rapped? I turned to a country station
a couple days ago, and that's what was on. They
did auto -tune? It was supposedly a country song,
but there was that. Were they stretching the
voice? Yep. Yep, just like they used to do in
the 90s with hip -hop. Now they're doing it with
modern country. Modern country is shit. It's
just such an embarrassment. That is. It's awful.
But, you know, that's an example of what happens
to something when it's gotten a hold of by people
who only care about money. Yeah. They will destroy
the legacy and history of something to milk every
dollar out of it, and then they'll throw the
carcass aside and say, what can we rape next?
Yeah, yes. So right now it's modern country.
Who knows what genre they're going to pick next.
Oh, they give you the double barrel. They don't
care. All right. What rock star do you think
aged well? I'm going to say Robert Plant. Yeah,
I think Plant aged. Really well. Mickey Six.
Yeah. Even though I think he, personally, I don't
care for him anymore. Yeah. I think he aged pretty
well. And Wilson, definitely. Yeah, yeah. Good
point. Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson, yeah. Jeff
Lynn. Jeff Lynn, yeah. I think he's still putting
out stuff, but he started back in the 60s. Yeah,
he's no longer touring, but he's still putting
stuff out. Yeah, he's retired ELO in that brand,
and now everything I think is just going to be
Jeff Lynn from now on. Oh, so he'll tour under
Jeff Lynn? I think he'll put out music under
Jeff Lynn, but I don't know if he'll tour anymore.
You don't know if he's going to tour? Yeah. I
hope he does, because I tried to see him, but
I just couldn't. Keith Richards, because he's
alive. He aged well. Well, he's stayed the same
for 100 years now. Yeah. He looks the same. Yeah.
So, yeah, I would agree. You know, back when
the first cave person banged one rock against
the other and produced a musical note, Keith
Richards was there and said, cool, man, can you
make a guitar? I'll tell you else, though. Sebastian
Bach aged well. Yes, he did. He still looks cool.
Yeah. He can have the long hair rocker look and
the tight pants, and he still looks good. None
of the guys from Spinal Tap. No. I got to tell
you, when Spinal Tap first came out, what was
it, 80s, 90s, whatever it was. Late 80s, I believe.
It was fun. I watched it a couple of times. But
I am so completely done with Spinal Tap and have
been for decades. That all this latest Spinal
Tap craze just looks ridiculous to me. It does.
I'm glad people are enjoying it. It's nice that
those guys are raking in some bucks again this
late in life. But I really don't want anything
to do with it. I'm not going to watch it. It's
not going to be any good. To me, it's useless.
Yeah, I agree. Should Tambourines even get a
credit on an album? No. No. No. And neither should
hand claps and stomps. Nope, those don't either.
I agree. And someone that contributes one backing
sound should not either. Now, belches and farts,
yes. That's okay. That's fine. As a matter of
fact, I prefer that. I want them to get first
built. There's a famous Sex Pistols song called
EMI, which was a record label that kind of screwed
over the Sex Pistols. And on the final part of
the song, Johnny Rotten snarls EMI in the microphone,
then turns around and farts in the microphone.
He's punk. Yeah, yeah, he is punk. What instrument
do you consider the easiest to learn? Wow. Could
it be a harmonica? Because anyone could pretty
much master harmonica. You know, I think that's
probably a good idea because while it's difficult
to get really good at harmonica, pretty much
all you do is hold it in front of your face and
breathe in and breathe out and move it side to
side. Yeah, and you can always come up with a
tune like that very easily. And there's not a
lot of physical coordination involved other than
moving the harmonica side to side and breathing
in and out. So that makes it fairly easy. If
we're talking about... Now, this is something
that was brought up a while back. What musician
is easiest to replace at the last second if you've
got a gig and you're losing somebody? You might
be surprised by my answer. Guitarist? I'd say
the easiest to replace is the drummer. The drummer?
I think so. Because most of what a drummer does
is... repeating a phrase over and over and over
and over. And then it changes to something else
and then you repeat that phrase. And also a drumming
is not obvious to a lot of people. You don't
worry about pitch or tune or key. You're right.
Yeah. And also it's not what people focus in
on so it could be a little spotty and people
would not know. And if you hit the accents, then
the rest of the song you can play pretty basic
and no one's going to care. Okay. You're right.
That came up. There was a couple of times I was
in the band Weatherhead and there were some gigs
that I just couldn't do. And I think one was
down in Springfield. And the guys went down there
with... contacted a local drummer who just showed
up and they showed him the set list and he's
like, yeah, I know most of these. And they did
two nights with him and they said the first night
he did really well and only missed a few things.
Second night, he missed nothing. Perfect. He
had it all memorized. Just was perfect. So did
you come and get your stuff? No, I'm joking.
It wasn't too much longer after that that I was
asked to not show up for band practice anymore.
I don't think that helped, did it? No. I mean,
they didn't hire him. They went with somebody
else. But, yeah, I was having a lot of health
problems, so I was having a lot of trouble being
reliable enough for a working man. Oh, okay.
So, yeah, I left with no hard feelings. Yeah,
I know you did because you talk about him. Yeah.
Someone like Ace Frehley who can play very well
but doesn't read music. If he or anyone else
who doesn't read music, would they be a better
player knowing how to read sheet music, or do
you leave them alone? You leave them alone. Yeah,
that's exactly what I feel, too. I think if you
introduce this complexity to it, it's going to
ruin it for them. Yeah, I mean, it's like if
your golf swing is perfect, don't play baseball.
Well, like Mahomes, you don't fix his footwork.
No. He's won three Super Bowls, been to five.
You do not fix his footwork. Like people are
saying, oh, his footwork's horrible. Who gives
a shit? He wins. Yeah, yeah. The ability to sight
-read music and play it perfectly the first time
is really handy for session musicians and hired
guns and people like that who have to learn a
huge catalog all at once. But for just people
like me or bands that just kind of form with
childhood friends and stuff, to learn how to
play by ear and that way when something goes
wrong, everybody knows what to do because you've
been playing by ear and you've been improvising.
That's a good point. My son Jeffrey only learned
to play by sheet music. So there's times he and
I have tried to play together and he can't do
it. Because he's never played with someone in
his life. He's always played solo. And he can't
improvise. And also how a lot of songwriting
is done. A lot of songwriting is just someone
fucking humming to somebody. It's like, hey,
I got an idea for a song. Oh, yeah, okay. It
goes da -da -da -da -da -da -da. And then the
guitarist goes da -da -da -da -da -da -da. Is
that it? Okay, a little lower. That's how a lot
of songs are written. That's how Steven Adler
of Guns N' Roses influenced a lot of songs. Yes.
Even though he didn't get writing credit. He
should have. He influenced them because they
worked on them together. Ozzy was very famous
about that and coming up with melodies, too,
going, all right, that's good, but I'm going
to do this. And his improvisation, too, was so
well. Yes. He knew how a song should go. Yeah,
there's a lot of that. So I agree with you. I
think that reading sheet music on something like
that doesn't really do you that much good. No,
it seems like it's much more efficient if you're
trying to work on a new song or capture a feeling
to record yourself playing it, because then you
can work in the feeling and the emotion, the
timing, etc. Writing it down, you really don't
get all that. Well, yeah, and I've got a great
example. The video of Nuno Betancourt when he
was headed to Back to the Beginning concert,
and he had to learn Randy and Jake's songs. And
he did it in the back of a limo, but he didn't
have sheet music. No, he was listening on headphones
and going, okay, that sounds like an E. Okay,
he comes over here. And it's really interesting
because you can hear him. He'd stop and go, okay,
that's almost it. Then he'd go back, he'd listen
again. So it was the same thing. It was really
intriguing because he would just literally listen
to it. and then go to his guitar and rep with
him. Yeah, yeah. It's the kind of person that
shows up at the open jam. It kills it, yeah.
You know, nobody's got sheet music. You're all
just, sometimes they're learning the song while
they're standing on the stage. Which is excellent.
Sometimes they do so well, it's like, how the
hell did they do that? And like with Nuno, he
knows that genre of music, and he knows what
key it's in, he knows how the chords usually
go. He kind of has an idea how songs go, and
after you do this, you usually do that kind of
thing. So he's got kind of a roadmap already.
But then to pick it out and know it and then
retain it while ignoring all the other songs
that sound similar that are in your head trying
to say, wait, is it this song? Is it that song?
Yeah. I mean, that's a big skill right there.
It is. I agree. I was playing a trivia game on
YouTube the other day where they play a song
intro and you try to guess the song. And every
time a ZZ Top intro was played, it's like, there
could be like five of them. There could be like
five different ZZ Top songs that use that exact
same intro because they all sound so similar.
I never thought about it before. You talked about
the later stuff. Yeah, yeah, when they started
using the drum machine. Yeah. Their earlier stuff
wasn't like that. So like ZZ Top, you pretty
much know where the song's going and what it's
doing. It's going to stick to the standard 12
-bar blues format for the most part. Pretty much.
And you know what Billy Gibbons likes to do as
far as verse and chorus structure. He likes to
stretch them out a little bit too. Or you have
someone like Steve Miller who always wanted to
do everything four times. And then he'd add a
new element and then he'd want to do that four
times. It's like, all you have to do is count
four times, and you pretty much can play Steve
Miller. That's it right there. Keep on rocking.
Yep. Rocking me, baby. And you add a little thing,
and they say, okay, four times. Surprise, any
of his music was catchy at all. Yeah, it worked,
though. It did work. But sometimes you're like,
oh, my God, this intro is too long. It's because,
you know, he went through like 24 measures when
it should have been like eight. Yeah. No, I have
to do it four times. OCD. Yep. All right. The
Rock Band Kiss has many kids. What other band
would you like to see in a mini version? I love
that question. How about a mini Motley Crue?
That'd be good. That'd be cool. Mini ACDC. Yes.
With a little mini Angus Young in shorts. Yes.
Yeah. Let's see. Ooh, mini Taylor Swift. How
about mini Alice Cooper? Ooh, that'd be good.
And a mini Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah. And everybody else
on stage has to be mini too. Yes. Especially
like Taylor Swift because she has like 20 people
on stage with her all dancing around. They all
have to be tiny too. Yes. That would be awesome.
I'm saying. Yeah, even the roadies, everybody
has to be midgets. Yeah. Or little people or
whatever the fuck they call them nowadays. It's
not offensive. Kind of like if you have an electric
car, you're only allowed to charge via solar
and wind power. Because if you plug into a coal
power plant, you're just a hypocrite. Yeah, yeah.
You're doing what you said you wasn't going to.
Yeah. Let's see. How about, let's see, a Mini.
I know there's more that I'm not thinking of.
How about a Mini Bon Jovi? No, that's too much
like the real Bon Jovi. Yeah, that's true. How
about a giant Dio? Yeah, the opposite. A 7 '1
Dio. I was thinking like a mini Slayer would
be fun. Oh, that would be great. Imagine people
about 3 1⁄2 feet tall shredding on speed metal.
Oh, yeah. That would be awesome. Yes, I love
that. And hey, since Hollywood has decided they're
going to crap all over little people and not
even hire them for like Snow White and the Seven.
Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps
Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This
is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. This
November, Bad Company will be inducted into the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Only two of the band's
original members remain. Paul Rogers, the singer
and drummer, Simon Kirk, the latter of which
said the odds of them performing at the ceremony
are very good. It's not a definite just yet,
though. I don't know. I know that we've been
approached to play a couple of songs Kirk recently
explained to Defenders of the Faith podcast.
I've spoken with Paul. Paul's health, as you
know, is not good, but I think I'm crossing my
fingers that we will be able to play at least
one song. I don't know what that is yet, and
I don't even know who's going to be inducting
us yet. Simon, we hope you are correct. We would
love to hear one last song from you two. This
is Johnny Rohypnol. That was your music news.
And remember, bar chords are bullshit. Dwarfs,
where dwarf is right in the name. Yeah. And they
won't even hire him for that. We got to find
new working opportunities for the little people
of America. They want to go into performing.
Yeah. It's a public service, I think. I think
so, too. I think we need to make every band that
was ever anything Led Zeppelin, all of them.
They've got to be minis. Yeah. Let's start with
the mini Beatles. Oh, I like that. Mini Beatles.
And they play ukuleles instead of guitars. Little
tiny John Lennon. Yes. Little tiny Paul McCartney.
All right. All right. Moving on. Okay. Nine Inch
Nails. are still touring. I saw this the other
day, yeah. Will you go see them at the right
price? I'm kind of, I've got mixed feelings.
Yeah, I do too. They really are not that good
anymore. They're kind of boring. I mean, well,
actually musically too. Yeah, yeah. I don't think
I'd enjoy it at all right now. I don't. I saw
Nine Inch Nails on the tour for Downward Spiral,
and I don't think he could ever top that, so
I want that to be the last. Nine Inch Nails concert
I see. They toured with Marilyn Manson, who had
just come out with his first album, and the Jim
Rose Sideshow Circus. That was such an amazing
concert from beginning to end. It was just such
an assault on your senses. I don't want anything
to compete with that. Yes, same here. I agree
100%. Yeah, Nine Inch Nails was so... He just
can't fake that glum and depression stuff that
he had for so long. He was very, very suicidal.
Yes. And he was working it out through his albums,
and then there was one album he put out, and
he said, okay, I'm going to put this album out,
do the tour, and then I'm going to kill myself.
And he just had it all planned out, but it changed
his mind. It changed his mind, yeah. And a lot
of people say, oh, he got too soft, man. You
lost his edge. Well, he's not dead. You know,
that's the important thing. He's not dead. So
that's okay if he starts playing, you know, soft
stuff or reggae. It's like he didn't kill himself.
Yeah. Can we be happy about that? You know, he
can play big band over all I care. You know,
he's alive. That's good enough. Yeah. All right,
and finally, what band do you wish would stop
touring besides Motley Crue and The Who? Oh,
yeah. Eagles, definitely. Don't want to see them
around again. Oh, yeah, yeah, they need to go.
ACDC, the recent footage I've seen. Yeah, it's
pretty sad. David Lee Roth. David Lee Roth needs
to quit touring, definitely. Madonna. Oh, yeah.
Needs to stop. Oh, God, yeah. Yeah, I mean, there
was that picture that came out of her where she
looked like the little mannequin from Saw. Yeah.
But that was before all the swelling went down,
so of course she looked grim. She looks a lot
better now, but still, zero relevance. You know,
she's one of those artists who can only survive
on the warm, fuzzy feeling of her aging fans.
And they're willing to say, oh, it's still Madonna
I want to see. You can make some money doing
that, but you destroy your legacy. Yeah. I think
Ozzy set the standard. It's like, here's how
you go out on top. Yeah, he did. I don't know
that anyone's going to ever touch that. It's
not going to be topped ever. No, I don't think
so. I mean, it's been speculated widely that
he pretty much drove himself so hard that he
probably died a little bit prematurely. In his
condition, probably the best thing that could
have happened. Yeah, I think he considered that
a fair exchange. Yeah, I think so too. I think
so. Yeah, you talk about someone that just went
out with class and style. There you go. Yeah.
There'll never be another one. There'll never
be another Ozzie. No. There'll never be the genuineness
that he carried with him. Yeah. And there'll
never be a musician that went out on top like
that either. No. And even being in such bad shape,
still commanding everybody's attention. And I
know that Youngblood has the good graces and
goodwill of Sharon, but I don't want anything
to do with him. No. I get the overall impression
that he's a minor talent that... has the right
look, is doing what he's told, and is being pushed
on everybody. That's it. That is. Yeah. It's
like, why don't you let us decide for ourselves
and come to him naturally? Well, because by then
he'll be nothing. Is Sharon managing him? I don't
know. That's important to know because if she's
managing him, then he's going to be doing everything
just perfect. Yeah. Yeah. I have yet to find
anybody. whose musical taste I agree with, who
wants anything to do with Youngblood. It's like,
yeah, he's talented, but just, nah, I don't like
it, don't want it. No, I'm not a fan. Yeah. I
never have been. Music like his is available
out there done better. Yes, I agree. That's how
I look at it. Yeah, no, he has a look at everything,
and I love his attitude towards our music. Yeah.
But that didn't do anything for me at all. So,
all right. That's all of the bullet points. Dave?
Well, I wanted to mention that recently we lost
Rick Davies, singer and keyboard player for Supertramp.
Put a little information on him. Oh, there we
go. Yep. Died Saturday at the age of 81 after
a 10 -year battle with multiple myeloma, which
is a type of cancer. Yeah. He was actually co
-singer. Roger Hodgson also sang. He was the
one who did the high vocals. Like on Goodbye
Stranger, he was the high vocals. It was kind
of hard to tell them apart sometimes, too. Breakfast
in America was Roger. Rick did Bloody Well Right,
the song, and Goodbye Stranger, the deeper vocals,
and Child of Vision, things like that. Breakfast
in America will never get the observation it
needs to. It'll never get the credit it needed
to. That album was really great. It was huge
at the time, but it's been kind of forgotten.
Yeah, it's not really on the classic rock playlist.
It hasn't been for a long time, really. And the
one before that, Crime of the Century, that had
Bloody Well Right, that's got some really good
songs on that, too. You know, back when classic
rock wasn't exactly classic rock, Those songs
were mainstones. But now they're not. Which is
so weird. I don't know what dictates. It's weird.
Sometimes music is intentionally driven out of
fashion because the people producing it are making
too much money. And the music industry wants
to sign nobodies who will work for nothing. And
then they'll just convince us that we want their
music. Yeah, no, I agree. There's a lot of element
like that. The interesting thing I found about
Super Tramp was while most of the people at that
time were playing Fender Rhodes electric pianos,
he used a Wurlitzer, which has a totally different
sound. And I thought that made him stand out.
I think that was just a brilliant idea, was to
use a different sound on that. And then to alternate
between the two singers, for the most part. That's
cool. I remember the story of how the band was
put together. The bass player showed up, I can't
remember his name, to audition. And he found
Rick Davies asleep, sprawled across the piano.
And he said, I'm here to audition. He's like,
oh, okay. So he kind of woke up, and then he
played some songs, and the guy played bass along
with him. He's like, all right, we'll let you
know. A couple days later, they called him and
said, you got the gig. He says, okay, great.
And he showed up. He said, what was it that made
you decide to hire me? And they looked around.
You're the only one whose name we remembered.
But he wound up being a great bass player for
them. He did. That's funny. And their drummer
was always listed on the credits as Bob C. Benberg.
The middle initial C. And I was like, well, that
must be like Bun E. Carlos for cheap trick. But
it turns out his name was actually Bob Siebenberg.
All one word. but he was an American in Europe
on the wrong visa. He wasn't allowed to work
and earn money on his, I guess he was on a student
visa. So he had to change his name so he could
sneak his earnings, because they would have deported
him otherwise. It was like, hey, wrong visa,
you can't earn money here, get out. But in order
to stay in the band, he had to change his name.
And when he was an endorser for Ludwig Drums,
and when they had a big magazine spread showing
all their drum endorsers, he didn't show up because
he said, I can't afford to be seen, and no one
recognized me. He kept his face off the album
covers too. He's like, nobody can see me and
know that that's me, otherwise I'll get deported.
Now eventually he had it all taken care of. Coincidentally,
you know that... Rick Nilsen's son. His name
in drumming is Ricky E. Nilsen. No, it isn't.
Kind of like Sheila E. Yeah, Sheila E. Anyway,
so I always enjoyed Supertramp. I was into Supertramp
before they got real big. I guess the album before...
Breakfast in America was Even in the Quietest
Moments. The piano covered with snow. Yeah, they
did okay with that, but Breakfast in America
is really like their breakout. Yeah, Give a Little
Bit was off of Even in the Quietest Moments,
and that got them a lot of airplay, and it was
used in a lot of TV shows, etc. And then Breakfast
in America had like five hits on it. And there
was quite a bit of controversy at the time because
the Statue of Liberty. Was a rather rotund waitress.
Yep. With a milkshake in her hand. Yep. And people
didn't like that. They said it was anti -patriotic
and all that. Yeah, making fun. Yeah, but it's
called Breakfast in America. See, you know. Yeah.
Anyhow, yeah. Yeah, great album. There's like
five hit songs. But like we just got done saying,
you don't hear that. No, you really don't. Not
even on the internet. You go to the internet.
Classic rock, you don't hear it on there either.
Yeah, it's like the whole band name is disappearing.
There was a movie out some years back called
Into the Wild, a real story about a guy, Christopher
Chandless, I think it was his name, something
like that, who wanted to go live on his own in
the wilds of Alaska and kept a photo journal
and a regular journal. Did he hang around with
bears? I think so. He wound up making a number
of mistakes and starved to death. Oh, okay. But
he, as he was traveling north to get to that
spot, he didn't want his family finding him and
bringing him home, so he traveled under the name
of Alexander Super Tram. And he would write that,
you know, all the places he went, you know, Alexander
Supertramp in chalk somewhere. And for a while,
people were finding, you know, oh, he was here
because, look, he signed his name here. Alexander
Supertramp. Yeah, because I think his family
had money and they were looking for him. It's
like, no, no, no, no, you need to go to college.
You know, don't do this. It's like, nah. No,
I was speaking a grizzly man. Yes. Yeah. But
it was an interesting movie, Into the Wild. Who's
that Vaughn, big, large comedian guy who was
in a movie with Jennifer Aniston? Vince Vaughn.
Vince Vaughn, okay. He's got a small role in
it. Okay. Well, anything that's got Vince Vaughn
in it, you know, is good. Oh, very cool. But
I did manage to see Supertramp at Municipal.
I think it was before Breakfast in America. Because
I don't think they did any of those songs. And
I think the opening act was Red Rider. Remember
them? Red Rider, yeah. Lunatic Fringe. Lunatic
Fringe, yeah. And what was another one? There's
another song. Red Hot. Twilight Zone. That was
Golden Eerie. That was Golden Eerie. Yeah. They
had one called Red Hot. And then the singer,
Tom Cochran, split, and he did the song Life
is a Highway. Yeah. That was later covered by
Rascal Flatts. Yes. Yeah. My wife thought Rascal
Flatts wrote it. And I said, oh, here's the original.
And she's like, that sounds almost the same.
I was like, yeah, that's pretty close. Have you
ever seen the spoof that the family guy does
on that video? No, I haven't. Oh, you've got
to see it. They clowned that thing out so bad.
It's funnier than hell. I think the song Lunatic
Fringe was written around the same time that
Lennon was shot and Reagan was shot. I think
you're right. Because I know you're out there
on Lunatic. Yeah, it's about keeping yourself
safe from the lunatics. The song is written very
well. You get the feeling, the dark feeling behind
it, like there's sinister things at play. Yeah,
and the little off -kilter drum beat. Yeah, that's
what makes it right there, yeah. Yeah, and I
remember when Red Rider played, their sound fidelity,
sound quality was amazing. It is on that song,
on that whole album. The song quality, the guitar
in general, the way they have it set back away
from the music is insane. You don't hear a lot
of bands doing that. They like the guitar to
be the prominent. They're like, okay, this song
is arranged differently. This is like a predator
coming at you. That's what the guitar is going
to do. It was brilliant. Genius. Genius. The
other day I saw somebody reacting to a song by
America Horse with no name. Oh, yeah. And they'd
never heard it before. And he caught, he picked
up on something. He was like halfway through
and he stopped. He's like, I feel like the song
is building something. You know, and it's like
it's going somewhere and I'm not sure where it's
going to go. Never did. No. The song is two chords.
They just go back and forth in two chords. And
that's all there is to it. Was this the guy that
makes all the faces on music? Yes. Yes. Okay.
Molly Boy. Yeah, Molly Boy. Yeah, he's a lot
of fun. Yeah. But he picked up, but the idea
on the song was you're traveling. You know, I've
been through the desert on a horse with no name.
You know, it's a song about a journey. Competitive
traveling, yeah. But the song never gets where
it's going. And it leaves you with the feeling
that you're still on that journey, still looking
for something. That would make the song more
tolerable. Yeah. To me, I found it a waste of
time. Yeah, yeah. For most people, you love it
or you hate it. But if you can look at it as,
you know, the song is supposed to evoke the feeling
that you're traveling and you're just never going
to get there, but traveling is all you know,
and here you go. Yeah. So I thought it was really
well written in that respect. And then you got
the voice on there, too. Yeah. Damn. All right.
But the band America started as three... Air
Force Bratz. Really? Yeah. There was three guys
that were in Germany whose fathers all worked
for the Air Force and were stationed there. And
all three of them could sing and all three played
guitar. So that was America. It was those three
guys. And then the whole rest of the band around
them were just hired guns. Wow, I didn't know
that. Yeah, they had some pretty amazing people
go through their band too for the touring and
for the albums and stuff. But America was just
those three guys and now it's just two guys.
Because one of them is clean and sober and refuses
to have anything to do with the other two unless
they get sober. Which one is that? I don't remember
anymore. Oh, well, it doesn't matter. Yeah. But,
yeah, I knew a little bit about that, but I didn't
know. I know the revolving musicians that they
had have been top notch. Yeah. I've got a little
story here. Sure. Okay. Nuno Betancourt performed
at the Ozzy Tribute in 2020. five MTV VMAs, alongside
Youngblood, Steven Tyler, and Joe Perry. Honored
the late Black Sabbath frontman. Betancourt also
released, recently participated in the Back to
the Beginning, final concert of Black Sabbath.
in July of 2025, and even had a humorous exchange
with Ozzy afterwards, where the Prince of Darkness
noted Bettencourt was the only guitarist to ever
turn him down. Oh, wow. Well, he never told,
Bettencourt never told anything about this before.
He kept it under his hat this whole time. Wow.
But since Ozzy said that to him and people heard
him, it's like, okay, well, I can tell about
it now. So, Nuno Bettencourt joined Youngblood
and Steven Tyler and Joe Perry to perform the
medley of Osborne hits. The tribute included
Crazy Train, Changes, and Mom, I'm Coming Home,
which is a great little set there. So, Ozzy's
back to the beginning of the concert. Bettencourt
was part of the star -studded final concert of
Black Sabbath in 2025, held in Osborne's town
of Birmingham, England. Bettencourt expressed
how much Osborne meant to him. and acknowledge
Osbourne's impact on rock and metal. Ozzy's final
conversation with Betancourt. Ozzy shared a moment
with Nuno at his final concert. Betancourt thanked
Osbourne and Osbourne playfully responded that
Betancourt was the only guitarist to ever say
no to him. And he added, I love you. Bettencourt
grew up listening to Ozzy who said he changed
rock and roll. In 1995 or 1996, Ozzy asked Bettencourt
to join his band, but Bettencourt declined. He
was committed to his own band, Xtreme. And he
said, he went on, this article is much longer,
but he went on to say that that was his biggest
regret is he wanted to join. He should have joined.
Yeah, because Xtreme had three... albums, four
albums that I remember, and two were pretty good.
The third one was, yeah, then he joined Van Halen,
kind of, well, yeah, kind of broke him up. Yeah.
Pornhub Graffiti was really good. Yeah, that
was excellent. That was the one where he got
wholehearted and some of the other singles. There's
another, yeah, there's another album. More Than
Words. More Than Words, yeah. And then the album
after that was Three Sides to Every Story. Yeah,
which was a good one. And that had some hits
off of it, and that's got some really good songs.
Get the Funk Out. Get the Funk Out was on Pornograffiti.
That was on Pornograffiti. Yeah. Wait a minute,
this was the one that you were talking about
had a... Had a green album cover. It started
out with Warheads. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Was
that Peacemaker Die on there? Yeah, that was
Peacemaker Die. I'm trying to remember the name
of the single. Someone said, give peace a chance,
and that's all that was said. Yeah. Anyway, Political
Amity is a really good one. Yeah, very good.
Anyways, so those two albums were pretty good.
But that was kind of their high point. I've got
one thing. Ozzy's memory wasn't that well. Brad
Gillis. Oh, yeah. You're right. Yeah, he wanted
to stay with Night Ranger, which was not a bad
move. No, no, Night Ranger did well. Then that
morphed into Damn Yankees. Yeah, which did well.
Yeah. No, Brad Gillis actually was the first
one. Yeah. And he could have remembered that
and was just kidding around for something. Oh,
that could be, yeah. But as soon as he said I'm
like wait a minute because I always like going
reckless. How the fuck did you do that? How do
you say no to this guy? Yeah, well, he believed
him what he was doing Yeah, yeah, you got to
get mad. Well Black Sabbath the same thing happened
Tony. I owe me was offered the gig with Guy Ian
Anderson. Yeah And he said no And the reason
he said no is because he saw bigger things with
Black Sabbath. And he was right. Yeah, he was.
He was absolutely right. Yeah, they didn't want
him to play like he was. They wanted him to play
like Ian Anderson did, and he said, that just
doesn't do anything for me. Yeah. But the guitar
player they had, Michael Desbarres, if that's
how you pronounce his name. Awesome guitar. Debar,
I think. Debar. I've heard it in a video. It
was Dez Bars. It could be. Who knows? But he
wound up being a great guitar player for them.
He was. Great tone. Really good player. I don't
think he could have fit in better for the type
of music that they were doing. Yeah. And I don't
think Iommi would have sounded quite right. But
then again, I don't know. The stuff that I heard,
I didn't really notice that big of a difference.
You've got to think that if Iommi had joined...
Jethro Tull, then their sound would have been
different from anything that we've already heard.
I think it would have been, and I loved them,
I think it would have been better. Yeah, yeah.
It would have been somebody to keep Ian Anderson
from throwing in so many folk and peasant songs.
Yeah, oh gosh. You know, flutes and lutes. It
wouldn't have lasted over two albums. Yes. Because
Iommi probably would have been frustrated and
said, no, you know. Let's rock out a little bit,
man. No, no, no. Hang on. I got this great flute
part. About that time, he's like putting his
guitar away. You go ahead and you practice that
flute, okay? Oh, gosh. Yeah, and then all the...
This always cracks me up. But it was talking
about how Ian Anderson plays the pan flute with
his leg way in there. Yeah. No. he really he
lifts it up like maybe a foot every i don't know
every five minutes yeah for about 30 seconds
and they call that yeah it's just what was promoted
i've even seen you know stickers of death row
tool stickers where it shows a line drawing of
him with his leg up like a flamingo yes this
isn't really what goes on no no no he does good
just to do what he did yeah yeah It'd be like
promoting Ozzy as if he bites heads off of bats
constantly. Yeah. No, it just happened once.
Don't worry about it. He thought it was a stuffed
bat. Well, the dub thing, you know, the dub thing
happened. Yeah, that's true. But, you know, hey.
It worked, though. Yeah, it worked as a good
image for Ozzy for what he was doing. And for
Ian Anderson, his image worked for him really
well. Well, what I read on the Ozzy thing was
this right here. The people in the room. Fired
him. Yeah. They're like, no. And the people that
found out that he was fired up above said, well,
why did you do that? We really had our eye on
this guy. Yeah. And we could make this work for
us. Yeah, and they're like, no. Call him up.
And you offer him the contract. Yeah. And they're
all like, but, but, but, no. This guy's a walking
controversy. And they were like, that was CBS
Jet at the time, wasn't it? Yeah. Yeah, Jet Records.
Guaranteed. He'll never be shy for publicity.
He'll always be getting attention. Why wouldn't
you want that? I mean, everything. If there's
any type of a rock star that has actually been
exploited because of his antics, it would be
Ozzy. Because so many of them are just modern
-day folklore now. It's like, did that really
happen? I was in concert. I saw it happen there.
Yeah, and other front men started trying to directly
compete with him, but they just couldn't keep
up. It was fake. It was fake, number one. You
know, they're trying to act like him when Ozzy
was acting himself. Yeah, so Ozzy always had
the originality. It was always, you know, something
fresh and different. Everyone else was just trying
to copy him and anticipate where he was going
next and just doing his stupid version. Gene
Simmons said it best. He was such a natural.
He never had to do anything that wasn't natural
to be a rock star. And also, he said, first he
pointed out himself. He said, whenever I sing,
I got to go into a gruff voice. He said, everybody
else that sings goes into their singing voice.
Ozzy didn't. No. What he sang is what he was.
Yeah. And he said he never had to get up there
and do anything different except what he was
doing. And another secret ingredient for Ozzy.
was that he never... Oh, my God, I'm sorry. I
had some... He hammered that one out. Oh, my
God, yeah, yeah. Man, that broccoli gets me every
damn time. He might have torn a hole in the seat
chair. Oh, my God. Oh, man. Nobody lied to Match.
We're going to go up. Oh, my God. One of Ozzy's
secret ingredients is that... you could always
tell he was having a great time. You look at
someone like Marilyn Manson, he's trying to be
evil and dark. And some of these other people
were just really overacting. Look how evil and
intense I am. You're going to attract some people.
Even Dio was like that. And especially if you're
following Ozzy and trying to do that, you're
missing the point. Ozzy was like this carefree
guy trying to have some fun and had a twisted
sense of humor, but he wasn't trying to be mean
or evil. He was just having a ball. And blacks
have his credit. They didn't try to replace Ozzy
at all. They were completely different, just
dark. That's smart. Smart, smart, smart. And
it worked out. Yeah. Until they broke up, but
it worked out. But then they got back together
several times. So, yeah. But, yeah. something?
I think I'm about tapped out. So am I. I'm pretty
much tapped out too. How long of an episode do
we have? An hour and fifteen. Alright, that's
good enough. Good enough for them. You know what?
I'll throw in some shit too. I'll make this thing
last three hours to be a dick. It would be like
a secret. Remember when they put secret tracks
on CDs? Yes. You'd have to listen to like 45
minutes of silence and there would be one little
tiny track there. Yeah, and it's like, what the
fuck? Why did I do that? It became such a thing,
it was just stupid. Yeah, they go, there's a
little secret in there. And you're waiting, waiting,
waiting, waiting, waiting. But you stay with
it because you want to be able to tell everybody,
oh yeah, I heard it. It's a buzzing sound for
three minutes. I know in the 70s... the big trend
was songs that faded out instead of having an
ending. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because the radios loved
that because they wanted to blend one song to
another, so you never had a stopping point where
you felt, okay, now I'm going to turn it off
and go do something. Yeah. It's like, oh, wait
till the song's over. Oh, wait, the next one's
already started. It was to keep you listening.
There's not so much of a post to hit. Yeah. You
know, it was kind of like it's blended in, and
you can kind of take it as far as you need to,
that first drum beat or the first lyric. They'd
be like, yeah, and that was Supertramp, and now
we're going to go into a little bit of hard here.
I heard that Nancy Wilson's doing very well after
surgery, and here's Barracuda. And then, boom,
you know. And in the 90s, it was the Hidden Tracks,
or Bonus... No, it was Hidden Tracks. Hidden
Tracks. And then, from the 2000s on, it was Bonus
Tracks. Bonus Tracks. A lot of times, live versions
of previous hits. And then, like, five or ten
years ago, it was all about the... They were
called in features. It was, you know, Eminem
featuring LL Cool J. The next track, it was Eminem
featuring someone else. There was a whole Carlos
Santana album where everything was featuring
someone else. They had Rob Thomas. Yeah, and
that was the gimmick. I remember someone posting,
oh, so -and -so's new album out, and here's the
list of features on it. It's like, wait, I want
an album by this person, not all these other
people. Why can't they put out an album by themselves?
Did he do anything, or did he just have everyone
else do it? Yeah, is he incapable of making his
own album and needs all this help? But it was
a gimmick. Yeah, it was a gimmick. It was a gimmick
of the time, and there was lots of cross -pollination
and incest within the musical groups. Oh, yeah.
And genres and stuff. How about backmasking in
the 80s? Oh, yeah. How brave was that? That was
the 80s. That was the backmasking era. Get someone
to tear up their records so they can buy another
one. Yep. That was awesome. And all they got
to do is come up with some phrase like, the devil
eats my shoes. Yes. Did you hear that? What?
He said, the devil eats my shoes. Well, why did
he say that? Well, satanic. How is devil eating
your shoes? Well, I don't know, man. It says
devil. It's trying to get kids familiarized with
Satan. That's what it's trying to do. I don't
know what the current gimmick or trend is in
music now. I don't know if there is one. It may
not be. I mean, there's so much else they can
do to get you hooked to. Oh, pop -on artist.
Oh, yeah. Not during the actual recording, but,
like, they're out on stage, and all of a sudden,
no ladies and gentlemen, nothing. All of a sudden,
someone just comes out, famous, and starts singing.
Oh, yeah, yeah. I call it the pop -on. They just
jump out of nowhere and go, hey! You know, like,
Jelly Roll jumps out in the middle of... Yeah.
I don't know, Clint Black or whoever the fuck
is me. I don't know. Yeah, yeah, you're right.
That's a good one for that. Yeah, like Jelly
Roll jumps in the middle of Hoosier doing some
song. Yeah. Yeah. And even Jelly Roll himself
was a gimmick. He was kind of the anti -hero.
Yeah, yeah, he was. Oh, look, just a regular
guy who started from nothing and look at all
his tats. Yeah. He's a manufacturer from start
to finish. I guarantee you that. Ten years ago,
he didn't look a thing like he looks now, and
he was a totally different person. He has a feel
-good story. He's this big, fat guy that got
the hot chick. He's a modern -day meatloaf, is
what I call it, a modern -day meatloaf. But really,
absolutely everything about his backstory, don't
believe it. No, I know. He was manufactured.
Because they won't tell you anything that doesn't
suit the purpose of promoting him, so you're
not getting the truth. No, you're right. I'm
kind of tired of they give us way too much of
one thing, and then they also give us the antidote.
Oh, look, we're on your side. Look, here's the
opposite. No. No, I agree. Yeah, it's just not
a gimmick. It is. Yeah, you know, Jelly Roll
is like the anti -Rockstar Rockstar, and that's
why people loved him so much was he was like
the guy down the road. that got picked on all
the time that could sing. He was kind of like
the American Idol guy that came out of Paducah,
Kentucky in a two -room house singing about his
mama dying. When Chef Rachel Ray came onto the
scene, she had kind of the same backstory image.
She's just the gal next door. She's got an accent.
She doesn't speak. French chef terms. She's just
like the gal next door. I forgot all about her.
But that was just an image. She was the same
business person who did whatever she needed to
to get rich. Is she even around anymore? Yes.
She's actually still doing a cooking show but
not by herself. She has a young man. I don't
know if it's her son or a relative or a friend
or something. But Rachel Ray is absolutely committed
to the grandma vibe she wears these you know
big puffy fuzzy sweaters she's got a grandma
haircut she doesn't do much to glam up she has
giant glasses that she wears halfway down her
nose like a grandma that's interesting yeah she's
totally embracing the i'm a cooking grandma she
was kind of like a southern italian chef uh -huh
yeah it was interesting because she is obviously
very italian And had a very Italian flair. Yeah.
But she also come from the South, right? Wasn't
that the story? I think she's from the New York
area. Oh, is she? Okay. And really her intro
to fame was she was the personal chef for, yeah,
noted pedophile Oprah Winfrey. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That was how she got her break. Allegedly. Yeah.
Oh, yeah. No, I don't think she really did work
for her. I don't think that was alleged that
she worked for a noted pedophile over a window.
Yeah. Allegedly. I'm sorry, allegedly is so much
fun to me. It is, yes. Because everything, it's
like, well, it's sunny out, allegedly. It's so
fun when the news falls all over themselves to
say allegedly. I know. The other day they said...
he was allegedly accused of. It's like, no, no,
he really was accused. He was accused of it.
He was accused of allegedly doing it. But it's
like the newsreaders can't figure that part out.
Yeah, and also it's funny because they cannot
deviate from their script so bad. Yep. If they
mess up one word, you see them lost. They're
panicking. Wouldn't that be a great job to have
as a newsreader? There are only two qualifications
you need. One, be able to read the teleprompter
without making too many mistakes. And two, be
appealing to the people they want to watch the
show. That's it. They don't write any of the
stuff they're reading. They don't research the
stories. They don't do a damn thing except read
the teleprompter that's in front of them. Sounds
like a pretty good gig to me. That sounds like
an awesome gig. As long as the audience likes
looking at you, you've got a job. Yeah. Yeah,
yeah. Remember when they used to be journalists?
They used to go to college to learn how to be
a reporter and how to do journalism. Now it's
all ass kissing. Yeah. It's like we're not calling
on that guy. He's always giving us shit. Here's
today's paid news stories. Yes. We're going to
cover the Whataburger opening because they paid
us a bunch to cover it on the news. Pfizer needs
this fluff piece after they killed 30 million
people with whatever. Yep. Look, Pfizer is saving
puppy dogs in Ethiopia. Yes. Come here, Fido.
And people are angry at the mayor, so let's show
him a groundbreaking somewhere. Yeah. Cha -ching.
There you go. On one hand, it would be awesome
to be a newsreader, but on the other hand, you
wouldn't be able to look at yourself in the mirror.
No. Because you're just kind of the mouthpiece
for the assholes in charge. Yeah, you might as
well go get the receipt for your asshole you
sold. Yep. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Hope
you got a lot for your soul because you only
had the one. Yeah. Let's end this train wreck.
Yeah, let's do it. All right. Okay. Okay, everybody,
thank you for listening. We really appreciate
it. Your listenership means everything to us.
Go fuck yourself. Oh, no. Looks like the show's
over, kids. Mark has explosive diarrhea and can't
afford a wireless mic. Fear not, assholes. They'll
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