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is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. In a
recent interview with WZLX's Kenny Young, Joe
Perry once again spoke about the possibility
of Aerosmith playing one final concert. A year
after the legendary rockers announced that they
were officially retiring from touring due to
singer Steven Tyler's vocal injury. Aerosmith
made the announcement August 2, 2024, nearly
one year after the 77 -year -old singer fractured
his larynx during a September 2023 show. Perry
said about the likelihood of another Aerosmith
show, We're actually talking quite a bit. I know
our touring days are over, but I don't know.
We're all flesh and blood. I don't know, but
I would say at some point we will all be together
on the same stage. If I was a betting man, which
I am, I would say at some point something's going
to happen, but we'll see. Stay tuned. This is
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one instead of going and finding them. Yeah,
so they wind up at the end of the list because
there's no season and episodes. You can edit
those and get them right where they need to be.
But, yeah, there's the Storm special. There's,
you know, there's all of our, there's Deep Sky,
Mr. Creepy, remember him? Yeah, yeah, yes. So
there's all sorts of good stuff we can revive.
Yeah, that's what I want to do. I want to revive
it because I have a lot of people like, you know,
how about if we throw some of the old stuff in
the new stuff? And I'm like, yeah, I've been
doing that lately. It refreshes it so well. And
even some of the stuff that we were dead wrong
about. Yes. Yeah. I love that. That would be
fun too. Oh, it is. Yeah. And yeah, so I'm going
to keep doing that. I'm going to start repurposing
the old ones and putting them in the middle.
So, all right. That'll be fun for me to listen
to too. Oh, hell yeah. Yep. All right. Do you
want to go into bullet points? Do you have something
you want to go with? Let's see. Well, I'll tell
you what I have. I have shocking band firings.
Okay. Most shocking times when a band fired somebody.
Regrettable quitting of a band by somebody either
before they got popular or went solo and it didn't
work or whatever. Okay. I have rockers who are
veterans. Okay. And I have oddball albums that
really didn't fit the style of the band and were
almost career killers. I want oddball albums
that were almost career killers. Let's start
with that one. And then after that, I can go
into drop guitarist and said band. Yeah. Just
because. All right. All right. Oddball albums.
Our first one on the list is Ministry and their
album With Sympathy. I'm not familiar with that
one. A lot of people aren't because it was new
wave and synth. pop that's why i'm not familiar
when you think of ministry you know i saw ministry
out at sandstone and yes i'm gonna call it sandstone
yeah i saw sandstone is like damn these guys
are hard they're relentless but they were good
they were really good they are yeah they they
do that style really well i do not see him doing
any type of poppy new wave stuff at all weird
new wave synth pop and he was singing He was
singing on this. It's the weirdest thing. I'm
going to have to go listen to it. I'm going to
have to listen to it, too. Okay. Wow. So number
two on the list, The Clash, one of the seminal
punk bands of the 70s. They put an album called
Cut the Crap, mostly synthesizers, for a punk
band. Wow. Ditched the guitars and went synthesizing.
I bet that didn't sell. Oh, no, no, no, no. That
was kind of a career killer. I bet it was. I
think that was the point where Joe Strummer had
already left. Yeah, okay, and they were kind
of in flux. Yeah, pretty much no original members,
and they're like, let's put out one more album
and do Money Grab. So that's what it wound up
being. Okay. Next up on the list, Radiohead.
And their album, Pablo Honey. Oh, yeah, yeah,
that one sucked. It was pretty much straight
-ahead grunge. And Radiohead's big thing is experimental,
atmospheric sounds, electronic sounds. The thing
was, it wasn't even good grunge. No, they didn't
really know how to do straight -ahead grunge.
I'm thinking the producer and or record label
said, we need to put out a grunge album to compete
with everybody else. I think you're right. Or
fit in with everybody else. they were probably
restricted in the studio with what they were
allowed to do. Yeah. So that probably wasn't
their choice. I'm pretty sure you talk to them,
and that's probably their most hated album ever.
Yeah, probably so. That's probably the one they
hate the most, too. I would think so. And then
I have two from Bob Dylan. Really? Two. Okay.
Oh, I know one of them. He's been around forever.
I know one of them, yeah. Number one, Bob Dylan's
self -portrait. Yes. A double LP filled with
covers of traditional songs, folk songs, pop
songs, duets, and instrumentals. It's horrible.
Isn't it? It is the most horrible fucking album.
And it's like the last thing that Bob Dylan fans
wanted. No. They want the poetry. They want the
thought. They don't want this pop cover shit.
It's just nuts. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one.
What's the second one then? The second one is
called Under the Red Sky. And throughout the
whole album, the lyrics he wrote for the songs
were about on the par of your basic simple nursery
rhyme. I mean, Dylan was celebrated and successful
and famous for writing sharp, concise lyrics
and his use of words and conveying meanings.
He just phoned it in on this one. You know what?
I think I remember a little bit about that album
now. Very slick production. It was really overproduced.
Overproduced, yeah. Again, the last thing Bob
Dylan fans wanted was a slick, overproduced album
with throwaway lyrics. Yeah. Okay. All right.
Next up, the Ramones. Another seminal punk band
from the 70s. They had an album called Acid Eaters.
And it was covers of 60s... I don't remember
that one either. It was covers of 60s songs.
Psychedelia, rock, folk songs. Oh, no wonder
I had... For a punk band. I don't think there's
such a thing as psychedelic punk. I feel bad
being a music fan, right? I'm a music fan and
I didn't know these albums. Then when you tell
me what they are, I'm like, okay, I don't feel
bad now. Yeah, thank God I avoided them. Yeah.
This next one I know you'll know very intimately.
Okay. Kiss. Uh -huh. Which album do you think
it is? The Elder. Yep. Yeah. Music from The Elder.
It's described as an album -length suite of songs
about a young medieval warrior's quest to save
the world or something who can tell. Yeah. There's
one song on there that I like, and it's dedicated
to Gene Simmons' former boss, Mr. Blackwell.
Yeah. You can go to hell. That is the closest
thing they had to being a Kiss song. Yeah. And
this is right after they went through the...
No, this is right before they went through the
dark, heavy stuff, like Creatures of the Night,
All Hills Breaking Loose, War Machine, all that
stuff. Yeah. God of Thunder. I love God of Thunder.
Oh, that's great. That is so fun. That riff on
that is iconic. I'm going to have to learn that.
That riff doesn't get... I'm going to have to
learn that. I don't think they down -tuned at
all. I tried to avoid down -tuning. That wasn't
Ace's deal, anyhow. Ace never down -tuned. That's
what I like about Ghost. He doesn't down -tune.
No, he doesn't. And that's how come they got
that unique sound that he has right now, because
he doesn't do it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like when
they quit Grunge, they didn't figure out how
to do guitar right again. Yeah. It's kind of
like, well, just keep it like it is. Why? That
was for Grunge. So, anyhow. Okay, next up. Neil
Young and his album Trans. At the time, trans
meant transition or transistor. Yeah, it doesn't
mean what it does now. Yeah, I mean, it was not
associated at all with what we think of when
we use the word trans now. But for Neil Young,
Mr. Folk Rock, Mr. Protest Song, Mr. Me and Acoustic
Guitar, synth -heavy, lots of heavily processed
vocals. It's just the weirdest thing to hear
that from Neil Young. Now, I've got the album,
and I like a number of the songs, but they just
don't sound like Neil Young. They really, really
don't. No, I agree. I agree. Yeah, and I'm not
much of a Neil Young fan either, but I would
have to agree. Yeah. Some of his earlier stuff,
like Ohio, And Southern Man was kind of, I mean,
not Southern Man, Old Man. Old Man. Old Man,
take a look at my life, I'm a lot like you were.
Yeah, and then the Four Dead in Ohio was a protest
song, and that gained popularity because he was
protesting the shooting the government did. Yeah,
National Guards killed four college students
on Kent State campus in Ohio. Yep, and I agree
with him on that one too. That was completely
fucked. Yeah. All right, next up, R .E .M. and
their album Around the Sun. Yeah, that would
put you in deep sleep. Very obviously, the band
was tired, and they just weren't even trying.
They put no effort into the songwriting, no effort
into the recording. It's basically unlistenable.
And the band has since admitted, it's like, we
were so tired of doing the same old stuff. Over
and over, we were so worn out from tour, album,
tour, album. It's like they just phoned it in
and didn't care. Michael Stipe was really surly
at that point in time, too. Yeah, yeah. I just
don't see him doing anything without a fuss at
that time. They bounced back with their next
one. They did, yes. More than that. Anyhow. Okay,
Rolling Stones. And their Oddball album is At
Their Satanic Majesty's Request. Which I liked
that one. It was actually a pretty decent album,
it was. But it didn't fit the stuff. No. Go ahead,
I'm sorry. I mean, even just look at the album
cover. Very obviously they're copying Sgt. Pepper
by the Beatles. Yes. And they felt very threatened
by the Beatles. Yes. And it was clearly an effort
to compete directly with the Sgt. Pepper album.
The album was basically unfocused. Usually Stones
albums have a little more of a theme or a focus
or a direction. This was just kind of all over
the place. There were some gems on that album.
But to be honest, the Beatles albums were kind
of unfocused too, but nobody cared. Nobody cared.
They're the Beatles. But the problem with this
is it painted the Stones as followers. Yes. Oh,
you had a good idea, we'll just bandwagon on
that. And that really wasn't who the Stones were.
And that's why half of Black Sabbath did not
want Paranoid. Oh, yeah. Because they felt that
it was copying Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And I forgot
which song, but if I can remember the song. Let's
see. I can see that. It does sound like a Jimmy
Page riff, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. Oh, Communication
Breakdown. Yeah. And it does. I get it. I get
it. I can hear that. Yeah. Anyhow, go ahead.
Plus, The Stones got a reputation with that album
as you're just trying to cash in. Yeah. Yeah.
Geezer and Ozzy didn't like that one because
of that. But, you know, The Stones, yeah, they
were copying it. But I felt there was a couple
of songs on there that were good. But, yeah,
I agree. But, again, they bounced back. Yeah,
they did. Put out some more awesome albums. And
they're still around. Yeah, that's true. All
right, U2. It's kind of hard to pick just one
album for me. Yeah, me too. You could pick all
of them except the first three. Yeah. And I go,
yeah, they all suck. Mailed in. Well, the one
singled out was their album called Pop. Oh, yeah.
Now, it was the third of a trio of electro -pop
albums. The first was Zuropa. The second was
Octone Baby. And the third was Pop. And pretty
much people could clearly see they'd run out
of ideas. And they needed to change again. This
is what happened when you get bored musically.
Yeah. And you start experimenting. Don't. Just
retire. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ask Pearl Jam. Yes.
Boy, they just cannot keep reaching out there
and just keep trying. I think that someone bought
me the album Vitology. Yeah. as a gift, and there's
like one song on it I'll listen to. The rest
of them is just like, I don't get it. The album
was so completely different song to song. Yeah.
I mean, they have like Blood, which is heavy
as hell, and then you have, what was that, Better
Man? Yeah. Yeah. Two completely different, I
mean, you hear both of those songs, and one is
like really heavy, makes Alice in Chains sound
like a... A folk band. Yeah. So, anyhow. The
weird thing was they talked about it as, you
know, we worked hard on these songs and these
are the ones we wanted, blah, blah. But it sounds
like it's just a collection of the stuff that
wasn't good enough to make it on their previous
albums. To me, it's a tin can album. Yeah. Nothing
in it branched out enough production -wise to
sound like they took any time with it. It's a
tin can album. You listen to it, it sounds like
it's all in a tin can and that's it. Nothing
really distinguishing anything from it. So, yeah.
Okay. Next up, Van Halen. Van Halen 3 with Gary
Cherone. Oh, yeah. No chemistry whatsoever. No,
none at all. And also, those were Sammy Hagar
songs, obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Gary Cherone
took the time to sound just like him. Yeah. And
I remember Eddie praising him in the press. Gary's
awesome. He doesn't have lead singer disease.
He'll work with us. He doesn't have a huge ego,
blah, blah. But he just didn't fit. He just did
not fit. He's a funk guy. Yeah. In the extreme.
Absolutely. He needed to be in the extreme, which
he is now. They have that song, Get the Funk
Out. Yeah, yeah. I've played that song about
a million times. Oh, yeah, yeah. He needs to
be with Nuno Betancourt, not Eddie Van Halen.
Him and Nuno were great friends, coincidentally.
Yeah, I don't think there's much more to say.
I mean, pick up that album and listen to two
tracks and you'll get it. Yeah. Very unfocused
album. Eddie Van Halen was going through some
weird shit at the time. True. Everything else
was getting bigger except them. Yeah. And he
spent like over a million dollars on that video
with the ice and the chicken and all that stuff.
And the record company was like, no, no, no,
but he did it anyhow and really pissed Warner
Brothers off. It was a big fiasco. So, anyhow.
What I forgot to mention about the U2 album,
I think, is their one pop that sold the least
since their very first debut album in 81. That's
how bad they won. And this Van Halen 3, it was
considered a shapeless mess. It was. Way too
many guitar solos, way too long of a guitar solo.
You see, and that was one of the things that
was disturbing because before that, A. Van Halen
knew exactly the touch he put on at Leaf. It
was, I remember this being bantered around. If
he doesn't have a songwriter, he's like that.
Yeah. He needs a songwriting partner. Yes. Yeah.
And this was the last, I think this was the last
album Van Halen put out until they brought David
Lee Roth back for the album A Different Kind
of Truth. Tattoo Girl or something. New Tattoo.
They said it was A New Kind of Truth or A Different
Truth. A Different Kind of Truth. And the song
was New Tattoo. Yeah. And it was horrible. Yeah.
Okay. Believe it or not, David Lee Roth was a
good writing partner when they were young. He
actually was, yeah. He told them when to stop.
He was like, no, no, no. He goes, look, this
is my fucking part. Yeah. There's some filmmakers
like that. It's like, you should have ended this
movie 20 minutes ago, dude. Yeah, yeah. It's
like, there's no reason all this needs to be
here. Yeah. There's an author, a writer named
James Mishner, who consistently wrote books that
were about 150 pages too long. That was Van Halen
3. Yeah. And seeing how many foreign noises I
can put on an album. That's something else I
noticed about that album. It's like, hey, bring
that chandelier over here. Throw it on the ground.
Yeah. Okay, record it. There's one piece of music
my father wrote that one of the effects in it
was to take, I think it was like a number 32
cold chisel, and drop it onto the strings of
a piano. Oh my gosh. And just let it bounce around.
That was actually written into the score. I've
also seen some sheet music where... Partway through
the piece, it tells the piano player, stand up,
turn around, and sit on the keys briefly, and
then resume his seat and continue playing. Yeah,
the old rock way of doing ass on keys. It's weird
what people write into music just to be different.
That's funny. All right, then my last album of
oddball albums, George Lynch, You Know What It
Is. Yeah, the rap album. Smoke this. Smoke this.
It was rap, rap rock, nu metal, rapcore, whatever
you want to call it. It was Oney's third album.
He had a band for the first two and then pretty
much destroyed them. Then it came out with this
third album. He had Oney Logan. as the lead singer
of Lynch Mob. Him and guitar. I forgot who was
bass. It could have even been Rudy Sarzo maybe.
He had this great band and they sounded great.
Wicked Sensation was an amazing album and also
song. And he was like really going for it. And
then he decided he was going to take and do rap.
And he was the joke of everything after that.
Even if glam or straightforward metal wasn't
anymore, it didn't matter. Yeah, he was... It
was like he was trying to compete with Limp Bizkit
or P .O .D. Yeah. Why? Yeah, why? That's not
his thing. I mean, you wouldn't have, like, Gordon
Lightfoot or Cary Carpenter suddenly trying to
compete with Marilyn Manson. Yeah, for some reason.
Different style of music, you know? Well, and
also, another thing is, after that, of course,
you go back to docking. Yeah. To have any credibility
at all. It's like, okay, all that stuff is done.
I'm back over here. It's kind of like what John
5 is going to have to do once he gets out of
Motley Crue. Oh, my God. I don't know if he can
repair it now. It's going to be a struggle for
him. Yeah. Because right now he just looks like
a sellout who doesn't care about the music, just
wants a paycheck. Yeah. And people are taking
it as such. They're like, well, if you're going
to do that, then just go ahead and join Rob Zombie
again. Yeah. I'm sure he's not making any more
of Motley Crue. He's probably not being treated
very well. Probably not. I mean, if history repeats
itself, he's going to end up disgruntled. So,
anyhow. So that's my list of oddball albums.
Okay. I came up with this segment. I didn't give
you enough time because I just thought of it
last night. I got a little brainstormed. Take
a guitarist, and their current guitarist just
dissolves into thin air. They don't have one.
So all of a sudden they're like, oh shit, we
don't have a guitarist. He just dissolved into
thin air. Well, don't worry. I'm going to take
so -and -so from this band and just drop them
in there. Yeah. So my first one is, I would love
to see, I can't even, I don't even know who the
guitarist is now. It's no longer Steve Morris
in Deep Purple. Oh, gosh. It doesn't matter.
Yeah. Slash. Oh, Slash and Deep Purple. Could
you imagine with his clunky style? Nice. Follow
that up with, well, now Don Airy keyboards. Ian
Gillen being able to sing decent. He won't hit
the falsetto, but, man, he can do a lot. I mean,
for an 80 -year -old man. That's amazing. Yeah.
Wow, that would be good. Now, think of this one
here coming up. Okay. How about Tony Iommi in
Rainbow? Not purple. Rainbow. Oh, that would
have... A lot of their really kind of pop, radio
-friendly songs would have taken on a much meaner
edge. Yeah. I like that. Richie Blackmore had
that ability to write a poppy song, too. Yeah.
For whatever reason. I mean, when he went in
Rainbow, he went through all these different
incarnations. He started off with the medieval,
mystic, 20th century green sleeves of Ronnie
James Dio. Mm -hmm. And then he went to the crotch
rock, per se, with Grand Bonnet. Yeah. And then
he went into probably a Q104 Top 40 -ish with
Joe Lynn Turner. Yeah. And then he went back
to Purple and did some great albums there again.
Yeah. I would love to see Tony Iommi just in
Rainbow without all the incarnations. Yeah. Just
Tony Iommi's Tony Iommi. You're not going to
get anything except his style of playing. Yeah.
So, I think that would have been interesting.
Yeah. And you could take any one of those singers.
I would love to have seen him with Graham Bond
in action. Yeah. Joe Lynn Turner? No slouch.
That guy could sing. You put someone like that
in Tony Omi's music, and it would be really interesting
to see. I mean, like pretty much the Forgotten
album, the Lost album, Born Again with Ian Gillan.
Yeah. That thing's amazing. Wow. So many possibilities.
Yeah. I came up with one. Just off the top of
my head. Steve Howe disappears from Yes, and
Alex Lifeson takes his place. Oh, my gosh. Different
kind of prog rock, but still prog rock. Yes.
He wouldn't have been quite as out there as Steve
Howe, but he would rock the shit out of it. That's
like five gummies. Yeah. Yeah, that's five gummies.
That's like, hang on a minute. Before you do
this, let me prep myself. I would love to hear
that. Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. They could
actually do that if they wanted to. They could.
Yeah. Okay, the next one. How about David Gilmour
with a specific bluesy sound in the firm? Oh,
yeah. Put him with Tony Franklin. Yeah. Yeah,
and then, of course, Paul Rogers. The drummer.
Shit, I can't think of his name. I looked him
up just the other day. Yeah, he's a great drummer.
Oh, well. Was it Tony Thompson? Yeah, I think
so. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been excellent
hearing David Gilmour in that. Oh, man. And I
always had this fascination hearing someone like
Gilmour with Paul Rogers. Yeah, I can see those
styles meshing pretty well. I do too. Paul Rogers
got that voice where he could handle about anything.
I'd love to see how he handled his notes, his
linger -ons, his bending. That'd be awesome.
Wow. Now this one. Think about this before you
go, oh, fuck. How about if you put Jimmy Page
in Def Leppard? Ooh. Yeah. Instead of Phil Collin,
but with Steve Clark? Or would he take Steve
Clark's play? He'd take Steve Clark's play. Yeah,
that makes more sense. Yeah, that would definitely
work. Counterplaying against Phil Collin and
his machine -like precision. They're both sloppy,
but, you know. Steve and Jimmy, yeah, they were
kind of two peas in a pod. Yeah, their playing
style, although it doesn't seem on the surface,
really were similar. Yeah, and it kind of needed
to be to get that sound. Exactly, yeah. Wow,
that would work. Yeah. Wow, I don't think I would
have thought of that. Yeah, and then you have
Phil Collin doing what he does, which is amazing.
Yeah. Wow. How about you take, fuck, I forgot
his name, From the Doors out and you insert Jimi
Hendrix. Robbie Krieger. Robbie Krieger, thank
you. Ooh, Hendrix would have worked. Yeah, he
could even take some of Manzarek's stuff with
his fucking sounds that he came up with. A drummer
probably could have kept up with it, too. Yeah,
I think so. Yeah, I was never really all that
impressed with Robbie Krieger. I know a bunch
of guitar players who think he's just godlike.
I don't get that at all. I don't either. To me,
he was pedestrian as fuck. Yeah, he just noodles
around. Yeah. And his tone was crap. Yeah, his
tone was horrible. Oh, well. He's another tin
can guy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'd love to see that.
Richie Blackmore in Black Sabbath. Oh. If they
didn't kill each other, they could bring some
good music. They would have killed each other,
yeah. Wow. Yeah, that would be an interesting
mix of styles there. It would be. It would be
more melodic with Richie, but Richie's sound
would be heavier thanks to Sabbath. Yeah. Would
he have made, well, at one time, I forgot all
their keyboard players, but the most famous was
Jeff Nichols. Would he have made Jeff Nichols
be that backup guitarist? Probably. I think so,
too. I think he'd have been like, no, no, no,
no, you're not going to play the Mystic stuff.
Here's what we're doing. You're with me. We're
going to be unison in this heavy sound. Yeah.
Did Tony Iommi ever play with a second guitarist?
No. I don't think he ever did. He didn't believe
it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you got someone like
Tony Iommi, you really don't need one. Yeah.
Another guitarist in Sabbath would have ruined
it. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, you really need
it. Tony to be able to express exactly what he
wanted to without working around another guitar
player. He was the music more than anybody else,
even though there's so many different facets
to it. Like Ozzy and then Dio made it a completely
different band. That's true. That's true. But
sometimes that's what you really need. If you're
losing a key member like Ozzy, you've got to
change a little bit. They went completely different.
And I said, no, you know, this guy is not going
to be the guy up there screaming and jumping
all over the place and out of tune. This guy's
going to be a perfectionist. Yeah, when Primus
recently needed to replace their drummer, they
said right off the bat, we're not looking for
somebody who's a clone of Tim Herb Alexander.
We're looking for somebody who brings something
new. Yeah, I remember that. I think every band
should do that. I mean, Journey got away with
hiring a clone. Well, nobody even knew. Yeah.
You know, I mean. Yeah. It worked okay for Journey,
but it meant Journey was stuck back in the 80s
and they would never be anything else. There
was no room for growth. And they didn't care,
I don't think, either. No, they just wanted to
ride what they'd already done. I still consider
Neil Shone a wasted talent, although that's what
he wanted to do. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, he learned
playing under Carlos Santana. Yeah. So he's no
slouch. No, he had so much more to offer, and
you could see little bits of it on certain songs,
but he never went there. Yeah, yeah. I remember
he would complain in Journey that he was being
restrained and held back and he couldn't express
himself, yet he stays. Yeah, and why didn't,
you know, he came out with Neil's Shone Project
and all that. Yeah. I didn't see anything that
far different, so I don't know what he was talking
about. But I do remember him saying something
about it, like he's kind of being caged, but
I don't know. All right, how about Mick Ralphs,
God rest his soul? Put him in Boston. Oh, yeah,
because Boston really needed that perfect gloss
taken off their recordings, a little rough, snarly,
snaggy edge. thrown in there. I would love to
hear it. That would have been great. That was
always my big knock against Boston. I love Boston,
but everything just sounded too pretty for songs
that weren't necessarily supposed to be pretty.
Yeah, I agree. Those songs could have been roughed
up and to me been something I liked better. And
I love Boston, but I think that I would have
liked their stuff dirtied up a bit. Yeah, yeah.
Put some overdrive on the bass, man. Yeah, yeah.
You know, rice is good, right? Yeah. But then
make a dirty rice that's even fucking better.
Absolutely. Overdrive on the bass. Make it sound
like Lemmy. Yeah, yes. Or the Melvins. And then
sing like the Melvins. More than a feeling. I
can't even do it. Hey, the Melvins suck. It's
funny because I used to get people arguing. They
do not. I'm like, you don't fucking know them.
You don't know the Melvins. That's their thing.
They're supposed to suck. Yeah, we suck. That's
kind of their thing is they're awful. If you
call them good, they're going to be offended.
Yes, they are. These idiots go, they're not.
They're great. No, that's the joke. They suck.
Yeah, that's the joke. Oh, well. Yeah, yeah.
Okay. Mick Mars. Right? Yeah. I'd like to see
him land an ELO. Whoa. Now, Mick is precise.
He's not fast normally. Yeah. He's a really good
chord arranger. Yeah. Imagine that ELO. I think
it'd be a fit. I think it'd be a great fit. Yeah.
And his guitar tone, too, an ELO. ELO had a number
of songs with a good hard -edge snarling guitar
in it because Jeff Lynn loved his Marshall amp.
Oh, he did, yes. You know, that might have knocked
the strings out. I remember Jeff Lynn saying
that when he first started ELO, on the day that
they go into the studio to do the string parts,
he's like, all right, I get to do the strings.
This is so cool. This is so fun. But by the third
or fourth album, he's like, ugh. I have to go
do strings in the studio today. This sucks. So
at that point, he would have welcomed Mick Mars
and probably dumped everybody but the violin
player. Yes. And I mean, actually, he could have
had whatever to do with it too, but I just think
that Mick Mars with that sound and that element
would have fit in. Yeah, yeah. But no, I agree
with you. You've been like, Erwin, get out. Yeah.
Me and Mick are going to do some music. If we
need you, we'll call you. Yeah. All right. How
about if you take Joe Saturani as precise as
he is with that boogie -woogie type of style?
We'll throw him in Steely Dan. Wow. Would he
play by the rules enough for him? I don't think
so. I don't think so either. I don't think so
either. I think there would be a couple of fistfights.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we all know that Satriani
is an alien. Look at him. Yeah, that's true.
He would kill them. He and Josh Allen are from
the same planet, I think. Yeah, he would kill
them with his weird eyes. He would, like, fucking
shoot lasers out of them and melt them on the
spot. Yeah, if Becker and Fagan could handle
having him in the studio, he could make some
good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but they would have to
be able to tote him down and put him within the
lines. Yeah. Which, Satriani's good enough to
be in the lines. Yeah. He just doesn't prefer
it. Yeah. Anyhow, I think it will work if you
get in the right situation. Yeah. I already mentioned
it in the car. How about George Lynch and Ozzy
Solo? Imagine a kick in the ass that would have
gave him. That would have been awesome. Yeah.
And if he had long hair, that would have been
the case. Yeah. But Sharon looked at him and
said, he's got short hair. No, can't use him.
Yeah. All right. That's how I got into the band
Weatherhead. It's because the other drummer who
auditioned had short hair. And so did the guitar
player. So it's like, we can't have two short
hairs in the band. So my hair was long. He's
like, all right, you're in. I went right over
there and stuck my nuts in his face and said,
there! There! I was in the band for like three
years, I think. Oh, yep. Even more reason to
stick your nuts in his face. How about... Zach
Wild goes in Rat. Oh. Ooh. Yeah. Well, he could
play all of D -Martini's stuff. D -Martini's
a pretty underrated guitarist as far as I'm concerned.
He's pretty good. Yeah, he is. He always has
been good. And Rat's drummer is pretty damn awesome,
too. Yeah. You don't really get to hear it much.
No. But, like, at the end of Round and Round,
I listen to his... I've forgotten his name. I'll
just take your word for it. I think it's Blotzer,
Bobby Blotzer. Anyhow, go ahead. But as round
and round is ending and they're doing the repeat
and fade, just listen to the fills he's throwing
in there. The guy could play, but he was smart
enough to hold back and not play too much. And
also, I love Jeff Pilsen's playing. He's got
a really solid – oh, no, that's Dawkins. I forget.
I knew the name, but I didn't know that. Yeah.
Long crusher. Yeah. Yeah, long pressure. Had
a very distinct style that you could... If you
were walking in another room and you heard that,
you'd go, oh, yeah, that's round and round. That's
wanted man. That's lay it down. Very distinctive
backbeat. So, with Blotzer. How about Yngwie
Malmsteen in Dio Solo? Would the studio have
been big enough for Yngwie Malmsteen's ego? Or
Dio's. Yeah, getting those two egos in the same
room is like, yeah. After they got done beating
the hell out of each other. Dio was short, but
he could put up a fight. Oh, yeah, yeah, feisty
little guy. Yeah, he's the kind of guy that'd
drink a pint of beer and then hit you in the
face with it. Yeah. No, actually, very likable
guy. He loved his fans. Kind of had some personal
stuff with some people for whatever reason. Like,
you know, they could say that him and Ozzy were
best friends. No, they weren't. No, they weren't.
No, I've heard Dio say some things. And there
was some sort of a rivalry there, yes. I've got
one for you. Okay. Adam Jones from Tool. Uh -huh.
And put him in Soundgarden. Ooh. Hey there, slap
nuts. It's time for the Creeps Music News. Hey,
my little pumpkin seeds. This is Johnny Rohypnol
with your music news. Sepultura guitarist Andreas
Kaiser spoke about the band's plans to release
new music with Sepultura's current touring drummer,
23 -year -old Grayson Neckerman, who officially
replaced Sepultura's longtime drummer, Elroy
Casagrande, in February 2024. He said, as transcribed
by blebrow .no, we recorded four new songs with
Grayson on drums. I don't think anybody knows
that, but there you go. We have four new songs,
and we have the intention next year to release
them in an EP. This is Johnny Rohypnol. That
was your music news, and remember, bar chords
are bullshit. aren't you? Yes, I am. Because
Adam can get... Kim Thall goes. Yeah, Kim Thall
goes. Yeah. But I think Adam Jones could definitely
keep up. Yeah. Because, you know, he makes the
weird squeaky noises and the big, you know, grindy
thunder guitar noises. Kim Thall, Thall. Kim
Thayil or whatever it is. Is it Thayil or Thall?
I think it's Thayil. It's T -H -A -Y -I -L. So
I've heard Thayil. I've heard Thayil. I've heard
Thayil. I don't know. Okay. Well, he is like
a very underrated Tom Morello. Yeah. Yeah, I
would definitely put him in that league. Yeah,
the sounds that he creates, that creates the
solos and the feeling of the song are so underrated.
A lot of people don't get it. It escapes them.
Yeah. I would love that, yeah. That sounded kind
of intriguing. I would love to hear it done.
Yeah. Probably never happened, but I would love
to hear it done. All right, how about Robin Trower
in early Motley Crue? Ooh. Same style. Bring
a little bit of psychedelia into it, yeah. The
same straightforward guitar playing style. Robin
Trower was definitely heavily influenced by Hendrix.
Yes. I'm not sure who Mick Mars has influenced
as well. The devil? Yeah, probably. Mick Mars,
who? Maybe Leslie West. Leslie West, very much.
He'd be a good one. I would say Ace Frehley.
Yeah, I could see him definitely being inspired
by Kiss and everybody who tried to jump on the
Kiss bandwagon. Yeah, I think just that basic
songwriting skill. If he did write them, I'm
not sure what all he had to do with the guitar
parts, but if it's what I imagine, then I would
say probably Ace. Who was the guy for Priest?
Opposite KK. Glenn Tipton. Yeah, Tipton, yeah.
I think Glenn Tipton. He might have a little
Glenn Tipton in him. Yeah. So, anyhow. All right,
then finally, I have Billy Gibbons and Fleetwood
Mac. After they got done fighting. Yeah. Yeah.
And after Lindsey Buckingham storms off and says,
fuck you guys, I'm never playing with you again.
And then two days later when he comes back and
they figure things out. Then after when Mick
Fleetwood comes back and he isn't pissed off.
And then after Stevie Nicks comes back from rehab
and Christy McVie is resurrected from the dead.
Yeah. Then bring in Billy Gibbons. It's blues
-based rock. Yeah. I mean, it's just harder than
Fleetwood's ever played anything before. To me,
I just think, why not? Yeah. And I'm not even
guaranteeing it'll work, but I want to hear it
tried. Yeah. I had a different idea for Fleetwood
Mac. I was going to put Brian Setzer. Oh! Oh,
I get better. Mr. Rockabilly. Yeah. I can see
him with his rolled -up pant legs and his sneakers
fucking tapping. And the hair. Hair product in
his hair. Yeah, yeah. His big, giant, gretch,
hollow -body guitar. It was like Mick Cleveland
coming out with his drum kit and going, wait
a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's
he doing? Get rid of him right now and do it.
How about putting Ted Nugent in ACDC? I'd love
that. I think he would fit back when he was playing
the Birdland guitars in the 70s. Yeah, yeah,
the, what era? The Great White Buffalo, Cat Scratch
Fever. Cat Scratch Fever, yeah. Stranglehold.
Yeah, the albums that only had him on the front
scratching himself or something like that. Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Yeah, when he got into Night Ranger,
he started playing solid body guitars. Yes, and
he changed his style. No, Damn Yankees, I'm sorry,
not Night Ranger. Damn Yankees, yeah, well, it
was part of Night Ranger. Yeah. Damn Yankees
was completely different. They were very good,
but, man, he played so different, you wouldn't
even know it was Sweaty Teddy. Yeah, yeah. I
remember the time he said, I'm trying to change
my image. It was like, well, you did. Yeah. You
did. Still got that young life. Real young life.
Very young life. That's all I got. All right.
How would you like to hear about rockers who
were veterans? Yeah. Sammy Hagar. I should have
had this for Veterans Day, but we're going early.
Okay. I didn't hit Sammy Hagar. No, he's a veteran.
He wrote songs about it. Remember the Heroes?
Oh, yeah. And Still in Saigon. His album VOA.
Voice of America. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I wonder
why I didn't find him. Well, who I've got. He
was in NOM. He was in Vietnam. Oh, gosh. Yeah.
Anyhow, go ahead. Yeah, he is that age. He was
in Vietnam for real. Anyhow, he still does a
lot for veterans. Bruce Springsteen, I think.
You know what? Go to your list. All right. First
up, Maynard James Keenan from Tool. Didn't know
that. He was in the Army. That's where he got
the nickname Maynard. Okay. Maynard. The song
on their second album, a song called 46 and 2,
that apparently has a lot to do with being in
the Army school, the cadet. I mean, so the officer's
training. I don't think he joined as enlisted.
He went into officer, which means you go to the
Army college or whatever that is. So apparently
that's worked into some of the songs. You've
got to really dig for meaning in those Tool songs.
Oh, gee. Well, the problem is you can find anything
in it that you want. This is true. On the times
I've tried writing lyrics for songs, I tried
to be pretty vague so anybody could read pretty
much anything they wanted into it. To me, that's
kind of like a key to success nowadays, especially.
Make it relatable to a lot of people. Make people
make what they want it to be. Yeah. All right,
next up, Jimi Hendrix. It was in the Army. I
think it was stationed in Germany. Really? Yeah.
Okay. Ice tea. He served four years in the Army
starting in 1977. Actually, I knew that about
Ice -T. And he joined because it was a good way
to support his family. And his family was hurt.
I like Ice -T a lot, too. Talk about a very honest
individual. I wish he would quit doing those
commercials for that extended car warranty. Yes.
Because they are a really horrible and corrupt
business. Yeah, allegedly. Well, they've already
been sued and lost. Yes. So, yeah, their own
record as being corrupt and evil. Yeah, yeah.
All right, Elvis Presley in the Army. That was
a very famous thing. Yeah, yeah. And then he
had to pretty much reinvent his career when he
got out. Yeah. Here's a surprising one. Fred
Durst from Wimbledon. That's very surprising.
He was in the Navy. Ray Manzarek, keyboard player
for the Doors. I actually knew that one. He's
an Army guy. Yeah. Actually, I think his dad
was in security and or intelligence. Intelligence,
yeah, I believe so. Phil Labonte from All That
Remains was a Marine. Oh, okay. I'm not that
familiar with All That Remains, but okay. John
Fogarty from Creighton's Clearwater Revival.
To avoid the draft, he joined the Army Reserve.
And I'd forgotten that you could do that. He
actually got his draft notice and then went down
and volunteered for the Army Reserve, which supersedes
your draft notice. And he didn't have to go overseas.
Jason Everman, who played guitar for Nirvana
until he got fired, and for Soundgarden until
he got fired, then joined the Army. Special Forces,
in fact. He played for Nirvana and Soundgarden.
And he couldn't get along with either band. Was
this in place of Kurt Cobain? No, it was In Addition.
In Addition? Yeah. And Soundgarden, in addition
to Chris Cornell, what about Kim Thayil? Yeah.
At that point, I think Chris wasn't playing guitar
much. Okay. But yeah, he was second guitar player
for both of those bands. Wow. And they just really
couldn't get along with him and booted him out.
Oh, okay. And he says, at that point, he's like,
you know what? Military sounds like a really
freaking good idea. And to this day, he's like,
it's the best thing I ever did. Wow. Very good.
B .B. King, legendary blues guitarist, was in
the Army. Adrian Estrella from the band Assuming
We Survive, he joined the Army to escape an abusive
home life. Oh, wow. That's a good reason. Yeah,
it is. I seriously considered joining the military
out of high school for just that reason. Wow.
But I didn't want to cut my hair. So that's more
prominent than people think. Yeah, yeah. I was
looking at the Air Force hard. and I just didn't
want to cut my hair. I got it. I didn't either.
I thought about that too. Johnny Cash joined
the Air Force. I knew that. Then there's all
those rumors about he hates veterans, and I'm
like thinking he was one. Yeah. He doesn't hate
veterans. He hates a lot of military policy.
Yes. And that's a very different thing. Very
different. Jerry Garcia, Mr. Grateful Dead himself.
Oh, really? Army. No shit. He was forced into
it as punishment for stealing his mom's car.
The judge said, join the army, young man, or
go to prison. So he joined the army. That's why
he joined the army. And he was discharged about
a year later because he just simply would not
participate in anything. Like, 10 mile hike,
he'd just sit there. He'd lay there. He wouldn't
do anything. And all they could do was punish
him, drag him off the stockade, and make him
sit there. Because usually they punish you with
latrine duty, KP duty, whatever. He just wouldn't
do anything. He'd just sit there and do nothing.
That's just like the lump. That's funny. I love
that strategy. And after a year, the Army said,
we can't do anything to this guy. Just get him
out. I love that strategy, though. Isn't it?
The lump strategy. Yep. I'd rather spend my time
locked up in a cell than do what you tell me.
Yeah. So just go ahead and get over with now.
Wow. Chris Henderson from Three Doors Down, Navy.
Oh, wow. He said it was always a childhood dream,
and his family has a history of serving in the
Navy. So it was like I was always going to join
the Navy. The band and the music is great, but
I was always going to join the Navy. Okay. Artemis
Pyle, the drummer for Skinnerd. Their original
drummer they replaced because he couldn't handle
the more complex songwriting that they were doing.
This is Gomer's brother. Yes, Gomer's brother.
He joined the Marines and achieved the rank of
sergeant before being honorably discharged in
71. And then he joined Skinnerd. Actually, I
think I knew that one too. I'd forgotten about
it, yeah. That's pretty amazing that he was in
the Marines, a sergeant in the Marines, and still
was able to get out in 1971. And also Gomer's
brother, too. Things were still pretty hot in
1971. Yeah. And that was Gomer's brother, too.
That was Gomer's brother, yeah. Gomer didn't
do so well in the Marines. And then the last
one I have is Toy Caldwell, who played guitar
for the Marshall Tucker Band. Okay. Can't you
see? Yep. Pretty Little Love Song. He was in
the Marines and actually got wounded in Vietnam.
Oh, wow. Before being in the band. Okay, so you
didn't have Springsteen or Hagar. Didn't have
Springsteen or Hagar. Okay, well, that's all
right. All right, well, they're both veterans,
so we just gave them their kudos there. Do you
want to do some bullet points? Let's do some
bullet points. Okay. Would you, personally, would
you buy Ozzy's DNA in a can? There was 10 sold,
we spit in a can, and it was sealed. Wow. And
this is for clothing purposes later on in life.
I don't know that I would be comfortable with
that level of responsibility, so I'm going to
say no. I don't think I want to have Ozzy's DNA
on hand because somebody could either come to
steal it or it could spontaneously erupt into
a brand new Ozzy, and then I've got Ozzy in my
house. Well, I'm going to put in the talk his
chief studio, and if he does come, if he does
resurrect, then he's right there. You can interview
him right off the bat. Yeah, yeah. So how's the
afterlife? I think I'm just a little too scared
of being that close to Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah. I can
see that. I can see that. He's an intimidating
presence, even in death. Yeah, yeah. Even in
death, he's intimidating. Even though I met him
a couple of times and he's anything but. Yeah,
I imagine he's a pretty swell guy. Yeah, very
much so. You can just tell by his reaction to
you. Yeah, but just crazy things happen in his
vicinity. Yeah, yeah. Well, back then that would
have been fine. When I met him, I'd be like,
all right, let me tag along. All right, nowadays
it's like... I might break my leg or something,
so I think I'm going to refrain from that because
that would make me miss work. I'm going to watch
you from over here. How's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
If you need anything, let me know. I've got water,
a couple of sodas. All right. Okay, well, erase
this question. If so, what would your top dollar
be? I would pay $200 and no more. Yeah. If I
were going to do that, I'd go $500. I'd go $500,
yeah. Yeah, you know what? I think I'd go $500
also. I would have to outbid some people. You
know there'd be resale, definitely resale now.
Oh, hell yeah. And realistically, you could spit
in about 10 or 20 little cups yourself and sell
them as the fake Aussie DNA. Well, I was wondering
if that wasn't done anyhow. That's something
I learned about in art theft. A lot of times
a painting would be stolen simply for the purpose
of creating a number of fakes of it and then
selling them to collectors as the original. And
once they figure out it's a fake, what are they
going to do? Call the police? No, they're not.
So that is an actual business plan for criminals.
Steal the artwork. copy it about 15 or 20 times,
sell all those as original, and you keep the
original yourself. It's been done many, many
times over. Yeah, there's some pretty famous
art museums around the world who've been embarrassed
to learn that something they've been displaying
for years and years is a fake. I know. Oops.
How about this one? What if David Lee Roth finishes
tour? You know Thimble Penis? I'm going to say
yeah because he could not sound worse and he's
still playing. You know, that's true. And I think
people are going to go ahead and spend to go
ahead and see him because they're still thinking,
in their head they're thinking the fantasy David
Lee Roth from 1976 and 77 and 78. And they look
at the guy on stage and they're like, that's
still the same guy. After this tour, I think
he's done. But, yeah, I think he's going to manage
to scrape through the tour. You know, the only
reason I think that he would cancel is if people
just quit buying tickets. But I think people
are going to buy the tickets. And I don't even
think this tour is about money. Maybe not. Maybe
he just wants the attention. I think he wants
the attention. Yeah. I mean, he can't be making
that much more. Happy little dogs. Yeah, they
are. Little French bulldogs, two of them. He
obviously has no sense of... shame or self -consciousness.
No, no. If he did, he wouldn't be wearing those
fucking tight outfits. And he's constantly chewing
that great big giant wad of gum in his mouth.
Yes. Because otherwise his mouth will dry up
and he won't be able to sing. Yeah. Kind of like
his penis. Yeah. Okay. Will Eddie Van Halen unfinished
music ever be released? Yes. His brother's pushing
it, so I say no. Yeah, I would say yes. His brother's
not doing it for money either. His brother wants
this material released. He likes it and thinks
it's good. It would be probably not going to
happen, but it would be interesting to see his
ex -wife, Valerie Bertinelli, get involved with
his estate because she loved Eddie to the end.
She just couldn't live with him anymore because
he was self -destructive and harmful and that
stuff. As a matter of fact, Eddie would... Oh,
go ahead. I was going to say she would have...
A very compassionate and positive effect on determining
what should be released and in what form. I agree.
I mean, in all actuality, when he died, they
should have still been married because his estranged
now widow, they weren't even living together.
And Valerie Bertinelli was coming over all the
time. And they were best friends. And like you
said, they would have still been together, but
Eddie... couldn't not hold it together long enough
to keep that going on. And in fact, Valerie did
spend a lot of time with Eddie in the final weeks
and months of his life, and that pretty much
wrecked Valerie's marriage. Yes. The guy realized,
like, you're never going to love me the way you
love him, so I'm out. I want to find somebody
who's that devoted to me, because you aren't.
Yes. And then at that point, he was going to
have to compete with a ghost. Yes. That sucks.
Yeah. Yeah, there's no way to compete with a
ghost. Condom coming off. Uh -oh. There we go.
Wind has died down. We just get a little brighter,
crisper sound this way. Yeah, I like it better.
You can hear it. You can hear all the birds chirping
a little better, too. That's good. Yeah. Maybe.
How about this? Will Vince Neal still be fronting
any band in two years? No. Nope. I think once
Motley Crue's done with him, all he can do is
like... books videos and maybe like a tour a
speaking tour to talk about his life but as a
performer on stage i i don't think he should
be there now no let alone again with anyone else
but this goes back to the american public and
their willingness to part with money for no apparent
reason yeah yeah yeah Nostalgia, I guess, is
a very powerful motivator. I've done that. I
mean, I went and watched Wasp two last times.
Yeah. And I knew that Blackie Wallace isn't that
dynamic in concert anymore. It's only one out
of the band that I did know. Yeah. But I still
went just because one last time. But he wasn't
horrible either. No, no. David Lee Roth is horrible.
Yeah. Vince Neil is horrible. Horrible, yeah.
Blackie could still sing well enough to pull
it off. And I know he uses backing tracks, and
he has a defense for it. He said he doesn't have
a personnel to do everything live. Yeah. So,
okay, I get it. ZZ Top is using backing tracks
in their live performances. They've just recently
been caught. It's like, it's so stupid. If you're
going to do it, admit it. Nobody cares. Yeah,
nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. Just say,
yeah, we're using backing tracks, you know, that
give you the full sound you want in a live performance.
I mean, it's like a penis pump. What you have
may work, but if you can enhance it. So, yeah,
it's absolutely accepted and reasonable to use
backing tracks now. What's not acceptable and
stupid is to hide it and pretend you're not.
And to hide it like Motley Crue. And then lie
about it. Just tell them. There's too many videos
where the bass keeps playing while Nicky's scratching
his ass walking off. Yeah, yeah. And you hear
the drums start playing. Tommy's standing next
to his drums while the drum tech fixes something.
Yeah, and it's like, er... Oops! Yeah. Their
hope is their audience that was dumb enough to
buy their tickets are probably fucked up. And
then on the other hand, people who bought the
ticket and went to the show don't want to admit
that they were taken. So they'll just either
refuse to believe it or make an excuse for it.
Well, nobody's like they were then. I can't jump
over a hurdle like when I was 19. But inside
they're saying, you lied to me, you fooled me,
you stole my money. That's why they get so angry
and wave their tiny little fists all the time.
Will concert ticket prices continue to escalate
or will they eventually price themselves out
of the business? Both. I think it's going to
continue to rise and escalate. It's business
101. Don't charge what you think people will
pay. Charge the maximum you can and wait until
they stop buying it and then bring the price
back a little bit. But if you're selling something
for $50 and somebody would have paid $250, you've
lost $200. So it's in everybody's interest who's
selling. to find the exact highest amount that
people were willing to pay. And that's how come
dynamic pricing is like it is. It's like, okay,
right now we can't do that because we're not
getting closer to the venue. Yeah. A little bit
closer, there may be something else going on
that people are saving their money for or something
else, something beyond their control. Then they're
like, all right, we cannot do the dynamic pricing
like we wanted to. Now we've got to lower it.
But it's really easy for the big band, the larger
acts like the Eagles. There's enough people who
would pay $3 ,000 a seat that they can charge
that and still sell out. Yes. And they don't
care that people like us don't get in. They don't
care. Right. That's why I'll never go see them,
even for free. I hate them. I have no idea. Delta
Airlines has said by the end of the year, they're
going to be rolling out... personal pricing,
which is surveillance pricing. They're going
to determine how's the most you're willing to
pay and charge you back. So everybody who calls
up Delta for a ticket is going to get a different
price. Oh, fuck them. I guess I'm not dealing
with them. And they say we're going ahead with
it. By the end of the year, we expect about 30
% of our ticket sales to be under the personal
pricing, and eventually it's going to be 100%.
They can fly without me. As a matter of fact,
if all the other ones follow suit, then I'm going
to start driving. And really, I don't see how
it could possibly work because the first time
their surveillance pricing charges a person of
color more than a white person, discrimination
lawsuit. Oh, I can't. I can't wait for that one.
The first time they charge a single mother more
than a man. discrimination lawsuit you know even
if a man is only making 15 grand a year and the
single mom is making 2 .3 million a year it's
still going to be discriminated it's just not
going to work every news agency around would
be jumping over themselves to present that to
the public yeah i mean by its very definition
it's discriminatory pricing yes we are going
to judge you as an individual person but also
as part of this group who makes this amount of
money and does these kind of things. And we think
this is what you can afford. I mean, did the
CEO of Carnival jump over there? I guess so.
Okay, or is stupid ideas... No, no, no. Stupid
ideas are normal to that elk of a person. As
long as we're talking about airlines, do you
want to hear about the British Airways flight
attendant who slapped somebody? Yeah, why not?
Okay, this was recently. It was a British Airways
flight. I can't remember from where to where.
It was a man and a woman, married couple, and
their two little boys, got on the plane. The
man sitting in the aisle seat with his boy beside
him, and his wife sitting directly behind him
with the boy beside her. It's also important
in the story to note that this man looked Middle
Eastern. I don't know, Persia. He didn't look
Indian, necessarily. Definitely a person of color.
Okay. So the plane took off, and they're starting
to fly, and he asks the flight attendant for
some water for his son. And she brusquely and
rudely tells him, we're not serving yet, just
wait. And he asks a few more times, and she blows
him off and starts ignoring him. And some of
the other flight attendants come up and say,
we're sorry about her and her attitude. So they
already knew that she was a hothead. Later in
the flight, as the drinks are starting to get
served and they're ignoring him and bypassing
him, he gets pissed and he gets up with the water
bottle and starts walking towards where the water
is to get the water himself. This flight attendant
yells at him, You're not supposed to be out of
your seat. You go back and sit down. You need
to sit. So he goes back to his seat and sits
down, angry. And that flight attendant walks
by, bends down and whispers what he described,
said is the ugliest and most vile racial slur
he's ever heard in his life. He wouldn't say
what it was, but he said she bent down and whispered
that in his ear and then stood up smiling and
walked on. He got angry and stood up to confront
her and said, you can't talk to me like that.
She turned around and slapped him right in the
face in front of the whole plane load of people.
In front of his wife, in front of his little
boys. Oh, boy. Okay, if you didn't believe that
she did that at first, you can definitely believe
it after the slap. Yep. They're paying that guy
a lot of money, and deservingly so. Yeah. They
said the very next thing that happened was every
other flight attendant converged, grabbed that
woman, took her to the back, stuck her in her
jump seat, put the seatbelt on her, and said,
don't move for the rest of the flight. You're
not working anymore. You sit here. Yeah, good.
And she did. Good. And the guy wasn't planning
to sue, but he contacted British Airways and
explained what had happened. You know what they
offered him? What? A $250 gift card. Oh, no.
No. No. And when he said, that's insulting, they
upped it to $1 ,000 of... credit towards his
next airplane purchase no so he went out and
got a lawyer good and the lawyer says you ruined
his whole day so what we want is one day of your
gross profits i love that and i hope he gets
it i think he will and i hope that flight attendant
never leaves the ground again i wouldn't see
how if she does then they need to report that
so people can quit going to british airways Who's
the crazy person who thinks they can get away
with crap like this? That's the thing that gets
me. In Britain, they still have a lot of people
who are rigidly stuck in the class system. And
to a lot of British people, people of color are
from the colonies and they are less than. And
that's just the way they live their lives and
they will never change. And I guess this woman
was one of those people. Kind of sounds like
it, doesn't it? Yeah. She obviously was not treating
him as a paying customer, wasn't even treating
him as a fellow human being. No, she's treating
him like just a... Like a disobedient dog. Yeah,
yeah, like, no, you go back. You're bad. Yeah.
Yeah, well, I hope he gets what he's sued for.
Yeah. And British Airways insulting him like
that, they deserve it now. Yeah, yeah. Well,
and also for having, I'm sure that woman's had
other complaints. I imagine. So every other flight
attendant knew that she was a problem because
they immediately went and got her, and they were
already apologizing to the guy before the slaps,
like, yeah, that's just kind of how she is. I'm
sorry about her. Wow. So whoever kept her on
and didn't suspend her, didn't fire her, they're
gone too. Yeah. There's going to be a number
of people who are losing their jobs over this.
Deservingly so. I think so, yeah. Of course,
not as bad as Delta, who had a pilot that was
arrested. onboard the plane when they found child
pornography on his devices oh yeah yeah yeah
and another delta pilot who was boarding the
plane to fly was given a breathalyzer test and
was drunk off his ass allegedly allegedly good
good job delta yeah you go with that personalized
pricing plan i haven't liked delta i haven't
liked delta since they started making every flight
you get on in kansas city go through atlanta
yeah i'm not doing it It's their big hub, and
everyone has to go there. Oh, they love it. They
love putting you there. And they want to make
you get off the plane and go spend money in the
airport. Yep, that's their plan. Yeah. It's like,
well, you made a three -hour layover. Oh, fuck
you. A three -hour spendover. I mean layover.
That's what they want, yeah. I know you can always
get something to eat and buy a couple of souvenirs,
and there's always go fuck yourself. Yeah. All
right. Back to music. All right. What is the
best concert venue you personally have ever been
to? I'd say sound -wise, well, I'd say overall
a Starlight Theater. I really, really like Starlight.
I love Starlight. It's an outdoor. You know,
if it's hot, it's kind of miserable. But on a
nice day, nice weather day, Starlight is just
gorgeous. It sounds great. I think my second
would be... Memorial Stadium in Kansas City,
Kansas. Oh, yeah, Memorial Hall. Memorial Hall,
I said, yeah. Memorial Hall is definitely up
there, yeah, and so is Starlight. In Memorial
Hall, I've seen the fabulous Poodles, Tom Petty,
Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails. I think that's
it. Sound was awesome. Sight lines were awesome.
Getting in and out was awesome. I just love that
venue. Yeah. Okay. I love, at the time of Swissville,
announced Black Oak Amphitheater in Lamping,
Missouri. And not just because the acoustics
are okay. Yeah. The scenery is beautiful. I mean,
it's on a huge mountain cliff. Yeah. It's the
clientele. The clientele making. I think I told
the famous story about... I'm sitting there,
Alice in Chains opening up for Ozzy, and I think
it's probably Man in the Box just hit, and they
are hotter than hell. And so it started with,
okay, they didn't do this until Ozzy, okay, but
everybody's up there. There's like a 50 -foot
cliff, and they're all up there just jamming.
I'm like looking up there going, oh, that's cool.
So Ozzy starts. I see the first one jump off
of there, and I thought he was dead. Landed on
his feet, ran into the crowd. Never caught him.
Second one did it too. Third one, fine. Fourth
one, no. We left in the ambulance. Fifth one,
I think, left in the ambulance. Then after that,
it was a hit or miss until they got some security
up there to stop them. But it got annoying because
I couldn't watch Ozzy. It was too exciting to
turn around and look the other way. I'm going
to move this a little closer to you. Okay. You
know, if I'd ever been to Red Rocks in Colorado,
I probably would have been there. Because it
looks terrific, but I've never been there. I've
been to it. I haven't been there during a concert.
And that's how come I can't include it. But if
I was, I would guarantee you that would have
been the best venue ever. And I've heard the
Hollywood Bowl is really pretty stunning, too.
I hear that's great, yeah. But I haven't been
there. Okay. Will there be any Ozzy solo release?
Most likely a music he was working on near his
death. I don't think it's going to ever be released
as an Aussie album. I think it'll be like an
anthology collection kind of thing. Aussie plus
other people. Yeah. That makes more sense. He
released that one with Billy Morrison, wasn't
it? That was like the last thing he did. Before
that, he did the last couple albums, but he was
releasing pieces. A song here, a song there that
he collabed with other people with. Yeah. So,
I'm going to say, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well,
Metallica, finally. This last one. Will Metallica
ever put out another piece of decent music? You
know, I kind of think they have one more in them.
I don't think they do. I'd like to hope that
they do. They could check their egos and forget
about their past successes and just kind of feel
like a young, hungry, struggling band again.
I'd like to see them collab with Dave Mustaine.
That would be great. But I also saw some video
of Dave Mustaine confronting Lars Ulrich not
too long back as part of a mental health exercise
to work out all his issues. And Lars looks like
he was just utterly devastated by what Dave was
saying. He looked like he felt like a worm for
how he treated Dave. So I don't know. He may
feel way too guilty to ever work with him again.
Could be. It looked like Lars was taking his
lumps. That's good. He probably needs to. Okay,
I think that they just are so far past anything
good. And they're not relevant anymore. Yeah,
they can't go back. I don't think it's possible.
I guess it's probably just me hoping to say that
they have one more in them. I would love to see
that. I think you're right. You're probably right.
Yeah. So, anyhow, that's all the bullet points.
I've got a list of shocking band firings to be
followed up with regrettable band quits. Okay.
I like this. First one on the shocking firing
front has got to be Ozzy Osbourne from Sabbath
in 1979. No one saw that coming because they
weren't telling anybody what was really going
on behind the scenes. No, they were not. And
a lot of that was Don Arden, I believe. Yeah,
Sharon's dad. Saying, you know... You got all
these functioning, you know, I know you're all
fucked up all the time and everything, I know
this, but it was kind of like a, they said, this
guy is excessive and we think he's going to ruin
the band. Yeah, he probably would have ruined
that album, for sure. Well, the Never Say Die
album, I liked, but people considered it that
they were going in the wrong direction anyhow.
This was more of a poppy, happy feel and that
was not Black Sabbath. No, no. They would have
to call themselves Pink Sabbath. Yes. Light blue
Sabbath. Periwinkle Sabbath. Periwinkle Sabbath.
Periwinkle and plush. Posh Sabbath. So, yeah,
that was a show. That was pretty shocking. Yeah.
If David Lee Roth had actually been fired from
Van Halen, that would have been right up there
too, but he quit. Yeah. Okay, number two, Sid
Barrett, fired from Pink Floyd in 1968 due to
LSD damage to his brain and inability to play.
And this is another one where people didn't know.
Yeah, I mean, he wrote their first album, Piper
at the Gates of Dawn. See Emily Play was a hit.
And he was just, for the time, he was just like
stunningly gorgeous as a rock frontman. But he
was so destroyed by his LSD use that... He would
stand on stage and not even play, just stare
at the audience angrily. And everybody had to
play around him. That's why they got David Gilmour
in the band, is because they needed him to fill
in for the parts that Sid wasn't playing anymore.
David Gilmour, I don't need to say anything.
Yeah. When Pink Floyd came to the U .S. for their
first American tour, they flew to L .A. and they
stayed in the same house where the Alice Cooper
band was staying. And Alice, in this radio show,
said he remembers coming down one morning for
breakfast, and Sid Barrett was looking at the
back of a cereal box like it was a TV set, and
laughing and pointing and just having a great
time watching this cereal box sitting on the
table. And then there was another time he saw
Sid's guitar leaning up against the wall, and
he thought, well, that's not very safe. I should,
you know, put it down somewhere. And he went
and looked. The string, there were two strings
missing. The rest were rusty. And it was just
beat to crap. And he took it to one of Pink Floyd's
roadies and they said, yes, it doesn't play anymore
anyway. In fact, he usually forgets it at the
gig and we have to send someone back to go get
it. It's fallen off a truck because he left it
on the tailgate. He said, it doesn't matter.
He just holds it and stands there and growls
at the audience. Yikes. So he was out. Okay.
And the album Wish You Were Here, a lot of people
have been told that that album was about Sid
Barrett and the loss of him. I could see that
whole album being like that, too, yeah. But it
actually turns out that was David Gilmour's breakup
album, Breaking Up With Roger Waters. Oh. Because
after Wish You Were Here, they did Animals. And
then the wall, and then they were done. Then
we're done, yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Next up,
Stephen Adler, the drummer, fired from Guns N'
Roses in 1990 for drug use and, again, inability
to play. Mm -hmm. He just couldn't hold it together
on stage. He was just nothing in the studio.
He stroked himself out. He was so heavy on drugs.
He tried rehab a couple of times and kept failing.
He signed a legal document saying he would stay
clean so he could stay in the band and then couldn't.
He was on Dr. Drew's Rehab House show on reality
TV, and he eventually succumbed to his addictions.
And that's too bad, too, because I loved his
drumming. It was so good on Appetite. I think
their songwriting was better when he was the
drummer. Very much so. Than when Matt saw him.
Yeah. Matt Sorum, they got him from The Cult.
Yeah, they stole him off that tour. They were
so mad at The Cult. The Cult was ready to break
out right then with that album and that tour.
And if they hadn't had their drummer stolen and
had to restart, they probably would have been
a lot bigger than they were. Yeah, that was Sonic
Temple, right? Yeah. That was pretty much their
biggest album, their breakout album, yeah. But
then after that, it was pretty much done. Yeah,
stealing their drummer just... robbed them of
all their momentum, and they had to start over
with a new guy, and they never got back to where
they were. And especially since they loved Guns
N' Roses, and they were touring with them. Meanwhile,
you know, they're in there talking to them, and
they're mad. When the tour's over, you know,
this guy here, look at him. Yeah, yeah, he's
going. That guy over there drooling and pissing
on himself? Yeah. We're not going to have that
anymore, so, yeah. Next up, Scott Weiland from
Stone Temple Pilots. Now, that was a shock to
some people, but not to me, because I was keeping
up in the loop. Yeah. The guy was so incredibly
fucked up. Oh, yeah. I mean, I kept finding him,
like, naked in, like, flower patches in Manhattan.
He actually tried cleaning up and writing an
album, and the album sucked and tanked and didn't
sell well. Yeah, so I guess he decided he needed
to stay messed up. Yeah. But, yeah, he was fired
in 2013 due to drug use, and two years later
he was dead of an overdose. Yeah, yep. Yeah.
Lindsay Buckingham was fired from Fleetman Mac
in 2018 because Stevie Nicks said, it's him or
me. Yeah, and they kept Stevie. And I would have
as well. I would have too. Absolutely. I mean,
he's a great singer, great songwriter, great
guitar player, but the audience wants to see
Stevie. You don't get rid of Stevie. Yeah, Stevie
was, yeah. Yeah. But Mick Fleetwood said, yeah,
it wasn't really a choice. When Stevie says he
goes or I go, it's like, we've already reached
our decision then. Yeah, yes. So, do you want
to fire him, Stevie, or us? Yeah. Next up, Sammy
Hagar fired from Van Halen in 1996 when Eddie
didn't want him to do solo albums. Oh, yeah,
yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, to hear Sammy tell it,
he said, I never said I quit. I never quit. I
said, I want to do solo albums. And Eddie said,
well, I guess you can't do that and be in this
band, so I guess you're out. And Sammy took that
as being fired. But Eddie still says, no, he
just quit on us. So I believe Sammy. I think
so, too. There were some other things, too. He
was working with some other musicians, and I
think Eddie found out about it. And it really
pissed him off because he's like, no, no, no,
Van Halen is the big band. Yeah, all your creative
energy should be here, none of it there. Even
though Eddie Van Halen pissed his brother off
so bad by working with Michael Jackson. Yeah,
he was furious about that because his brother,
Alex, always condemned it. He goes, you only
have a certain amount of songs, don't give any
of them away. And there he was, you know. It
also led to the breakup of Van Halen, too. David
Lee Roth felt like Eddie Van Halen was taking
all of the steam away from him, and he wanted
to go solo to do his own thing. So that whole
thing there was like a little bit of both. But
yeah, the whole Sammy Hagar thing, that was going
to implode anyhow. Yeah, it really was. And then
Michael Anthony, the bass player, was fired 11
years later in 2007 because Eddie didn't like
it that he joined Sammy Hagar's band Chickenfoot.
Yeah, that's right. He said, oh, you're going
to play with him? Well, you're the enemy now.
You can't be in Van Halen since you still like
Sammy. And also he wanted his son to get that
spot. That's true. He was creating a vacancy
for Wolfie. He created a vacancy, yep. Next up,
Dennis DeYoung from Styx. He was first fired
in 1979 when they couldn't agree on musical direction.
Yeah. Because Dennis DeYoung wanted to do...
Paradise. Paradise Theater. Yes. And Kilroy was
here. Yes. And when the tour with Kilroy was
here, the band was on stage for 20 minutes talking
and acting and doing dialogue before a single
note was played. Yeah. No. No. And Dennis DeYoung
wanted to do more like Broadway style, show tunes,
and Styx was like, we started out as prog rock,
man. Yeah, it was like, we don't know what you're
trying to do, Dennis, but it is us. Yeah. And
then they fired him again, and he came back.
Yeah. And then they fired again in 2000 when
they had put an album together and they were
ready to go do a tour, and Dennis DeYoung said,
well, I've recently learned that I'm allergic
to sunlight and bright lights, so. I can't, and
I just have to stay home. I remember that. Now,
that is an actual illness, to be allergic to
sunlight. But it usually presents when you're
about six years old, and it's devastating. So
this was obviously bullshit on his part. Just
absolute bullshit on his part. They said goodbye
at that point. He was such a prima donna. Oh,
yeah. Listen, the guy is a genius. And I love
both incarnations of Styx, as in the music, you
know. I love the rocker Tommy Shaw style. I also
love, you know, like Renegade. I also love the
Come Sail Away stuff, yeah. I'm blanking on those.
Anyhow, everyone knows, yeah, you have the, and
that's, they were so similar to Queen on that
level. Yeah. Only, I know Freddie Mercury wasn't
perceived as like a manless man, you know. Yeah.
He's more manly than Dennis DeYoung. And Dennis
DeYoung wasn't gay. No, I know. Isn't that funny?
Yeah. It's pretty sad when a gay man is manlier
than a straight man. Yes. It does happen. It
does happen. That's Dennis DeYoung. Yeah. Okay.
All right, Vince Neil being fired from Motley
Crue in 1992. Now, that was a shock. Nobody saw
that coming. Now, he's probably going to get
fired again here pretty soon, and that won't
be a shock to anybody. No, that's not shocking
at all. As a matter of fact, I'd be like, who's
replacing him? I might go watch. But it's like
82 to 92 was kind of Motley Crue's heyday with
Vince Neil, and then boom, out he goes. Yeah.
I was stunned. I had no idea. This one really,
I don't know, it was shocking in hindsight, but
at the time nobody knew. But firing Pete Best
from the Beatles in 1962. Due to lack of chemistry,
both on the recording and the live performances.
And Paul and John were upset that he was better
looking than them and would get more attention.
Because they wanted to be more the faces of the
band. But for years, people said, no, no, Pete
Best was an awesome drummer. He's a great drummer.
Well, he was, but he just didn't fit with the
band. Yes. It's like putting Tommy Aldridge in
with the Carpenters. It ain't going to work.
I'd love to hear that for one song now. Yeah.
Tommy Aldridge, he's a very, very underrated
drummer. Yeah, he's still active. He is. You
can find a lot of videos that he does on YouTube.
You know, when he was 30, he looked 60. Now that
he's 70, he looks 60. Yeah, yeah. He's just kind
of always been that age. All right, let's see.
John Anderson from Yes. He was fired in 2009
from health issues. and the band decided they
didn't want to wait for him to get better. So
they said, well, sorry, you're out. We're going
to replace you, and we're going to keep going.
Which was a big mistake. Yeah, because they did.
Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps
Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This
is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. This
November, Bad Company will be inducted into the
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Only two of the band's
original members remain, Paul Rogers, the singer
and drummer, Simon Kirk, the latter of which
said the odds of them performing at the ceremony
are very good. It's not a definite just yet,
though. I don't know. I know that we've been
approached to play a couple of songs Kirk recently
explained to Defenders of the Faith podcast.
I've spoken with Paul. Paul's health, as you
know, is not good, but I think I'm crossing my
fingers that we will be able to play at least
one song. I don't know what that is yet, and
I don't even know who's going to be inducting
us yet. Simon, we hope you are correct. We would
love to hear one last song from you two. This
is Johnny Rohypnol. That was your music news.
And remember, bar chords are bullshit. They brought
him back. Yeah, they did. Yeah, we need this
guy. People like you and I were going, yeah,
and? Okay, Peter Criss of Kiss, fired in 1980.
Yeah, they kept his alcoholism and drug abuse
so under wraps. Yeah. Even Ace. And a lot of
people heard about his wrecks and his stuff like
that. Yeah. They kept it under wraps so well
that people were like, oh, golly. But, you know,
to them, they're like, man, this has been going
on for years and we're fucking sick of it. Yeah.
Well, the breaking point has been during a concert,
Paul turned around to Peter and said, song's
too fast, slow it down. Which, you know, I've
heard. on stage before. It happens all the time.
It happens all the time. You get excited and
you're playing too fast and they say slow it
down and I slow it down. You might have been
pissed off and said it kind of firmly to where
everyone could hear. That might have been the
biggest... problem that Peter Criss had, kind
of like giving them the finger in front of everybody,
like, look, this guy. How dare you embarrass
me on stage? Because what Peter did was he slowed
the song down to a crawl. Yes. And if he's playing
dead slow, the band has no choice but to play
dead slow with him. Yep. You talk about vindictive.
Sure thing, Paul. In another instance, he threw
his drumsticks at the back of Gene Simmons' head
and hit him on stage. Oh, shit, I didn't know
that. Yeah. And there was another time that he
just completely stopped playing during the song.
Put his drumsticks down and just sat there and
refused to play for the rest of the song. I don't
know why. He just said, nah, I'm not doing this.
Well, I mean, he had a lot of personal problems,
too. Yeah. Very well documented with his ex -wife
and stuff like that. Now, from Peter Criss' standpoint,
he says at the time he was really, really pissed
that... Gene and Paul were taking over all the
decision -making in the band. And Gene and Paul
said that they had to because the other two were
just completely... It's kind of like Axl Rose
in Guns N' Roses. They're painted as bad guy,
but everyone else was too wasted to take care
of business. Look, I'm on Axl's side and I'm
on Gene and Paul's side. I love Ace, and the
part that I don't like is they're continuing
mouthing and bad -mouthing him. Leave it alone.
We know what happened. Yeah. Leave them alone.
They just can't let it go, apparently. All right,
next up, Don Felder being fired from the Eagles.
Oh, I don't remember that one, but yeah. That
was a big shocker, because he fit that band so
well. Oh, I know he did. There were some early
firings. I wasn't keeping up with the Eagles
at that time, and I don't even know if I know
what happened. There was a previous firing. Their
bass player, Randy... I can't remember his last
name, but he's the one who sang the high on Take
It to the Limit. Yeah. And apparently after that
tour was over, he told the rest of the band in
no uncertain terms, I made it through that tour,
but I swear to God, I'm never singing that song
again. That's just too high. It hurts. I can't
keep my voice in that kind of condition. I ain't
singing that song ever again. Well, I could see
how high that is. Yeah. But Glenn Frey and Don
Henley said, All right, you're out. And they
hired Timothy B. Schmidt, who could sing that
high all the time. And he did the song, I Can't
Tell You Why, which is even higher than Take
It to the Limit. Even higher than that. Yeah.
Which is a good song. It is. It is. But in 2001,
Don Felder, the second guitar player, he questioned
the way the band members were being paid. And
Henley and Fry got mad, and lawsuits, countersuits
got filed. and eventually they kicked Felder
out. And at the time, in 2001, he made a prediction.
He said Henley and Fry are just getting insanely
greedy, and they're getting greedier every day.
And he's right. They're just nuts greedy now.
I mean, the prices they charge are just... You
can't have a conscience and charge those prices
to people. No, I know. No, I hate them because
of that. And also, Don Felder is responsible
for some pretty good solo music. Yeah, he is.
Yeah. Most notably, heavy metal, the theme from
the show. This is back considerably a long time
ago in the 70s. But he did a solo song. For the
soundtrack? Yeah, for the soundtrack of heavy
metal. And it was really good, and then later
on he did his own stuff, and I always found his
stuff to be really good. Yeah. Next up, Lemmy
Kilmister was fired from Hawkwind in 1975 after
a drug bust at the Canadian border. Yep. And
the last song he ever wrote for Hawkwind was
called Motorhead. So that's when he named his
band. But at the time, people thought, what?
You're firing Lemmy? Yeah. How in the world are
you going to get by without Lemmy? And Hawkwind
never went anywhere again. No, they never did.
And Motorhead was formed and, I mean, they have
their audience still to this day. It took about
five minutes to put that band together because
everybody wanted to work with them. Yeah. This
one, this was kind of surprising to me. Pete
Willis being fired from Def Leppard in 1983 due
to alcoholism and inability to play. He was spending
more time off the stage in the wings drinking
than he was on stage playing. Yeah, very famous
about how his tails were just being excessively
fucked up. Yeah, and he was one of those guys
that there was no way he was going to be able
to handle all that was available to him in the
rock and roll lifestyle. They always called him
Wasted Pete Way. Yeah. Oh yeah, Peter Way was
another one. He's a bass player. This is Pete
Willis. He was replaced by Phil Collin. Pete
Way was another one, actually. I jumped into
that. He actually, during the sessions for Pyromania,
was replaced by Phil Collin. So a number of the
solos you hear on that record are Phil Collin,
but Willis wasn't fired until after the album
was done. I don't think he did the tour. Well,
I mean, you can listen to On Through the Night
and albums like that and tell the difference,
a distinctive difference in the style and how
much better it was and how much better it was
for radio for Def Leppard. And I did like On
Through the Night. Let's see, what was the one
before that? It had the song Photograph. Was
that Pyromania? That was Pyromania. I can't remember.
There was a second one in there, yeah. Anyhow,
it was good, but it wasn't like something that
you could ride to the top good until Phil Collin
came in. And then Steve Clark had a lot to do
with that, too. Yeah, yeah. Steve Clark's style
of playing. And by the third album, when Pete
was getting to be a big problem, they had so
much invested and had so much momentum. It was
like, we can't let this grind to a halt. We've
got to keep this going. Even though they'd all
been, you know, friends together since they were
little kids. I remember when they first came
over to the U .S. for their first album, they
were opening for Ted Nugent. And I met them when
I went over to the studio at KY102. And at that
point, I think the youngest member was 15 and
the oldest member was 21. The singer, I think,
was the oldest member. And I met them all and
I shook all their hands. No way could I have
ever known what was going to happen to this group
of young men from England. No. One out of the
band, another one loses his arm. Massive success,
massive heartache. It was just, wow. That was
something else. Steve Clark drank himself out
of the band for a different reason. He killed
himself, pretty much, drinking. That band's had
a lot of tragedy around it, but they've done
very well. Next up. Oh, you know how they got
their name? Uh -uh. They were in the studio getting
ready to perform On Through the Night was the
first one. They were getting ready to record
that, and they didn't have a name yet. There
was a giant tapestry with a leopard with a horn
coming out of its head, out of its ear. Oh, he
was the deaf leopard. Deaf leopard. And then
you spell it differently because they wanted
it to be like Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin, yeah.
Led Zeppelin, deaf leopard. Yeah, and I believe
it was... Joe Elliott that said, oh, look at
Def Leppard. And I was like, because they're
just talking about it now. I was like, Def Leppard?
Def Leppard. That's how it was born. The lettering
style they used for their logo was something
that Joe Elliott came up with himself. Yeah.
He was always writing down prospective brand
names in that type of font because he thought
it was cool. Yeah, he did the Def Leppard. I
said, that's it right there. It looks pretty
dang good. Yep. All right, Dave Navarro fired
from the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1995 due to
insane amounts of drug use. And he was doing
insane amounts. That guy was like scary addicted.
Yeah, oh my God. Read up on their relationship
if you ever got a couple of scary moments. But
it was an odd firing because they were so happy
to get him and thought it was going to be great.
They put out this new album and all of a sudden,
yeah, he's out again. Him and Anthony Cadis were
very happy to see each other, according to their
videos. Yeah. Very happy to see. They seemed
very friendly. They were very friendly towards
each other, very. And then they replaced him
with somebody, and then they replaced him with
Josh Klinghoffer, who played guitar for the Chili
Peppers for about 10 years. Yeah, yeah. And actually,
they came out with better music, probably, anyhow,
with him. But, I mean, I... And then they fired
him in 2019. Yeah, they did. Got rid of him.
Yeah. And the only reason they fired him is their
original, not the original, the original was
Hillel Slovak, I think. Sounds about right. Yeah.
But their previous guitar, John Frusciante, who
was on the album for, like, Under the Bridge
and that stuff, he was finally clean and sober
and wanted back in the band. And the band's like,
come on in. Here's your spot. Wow. So Josh was
like, I get it, but still. I showed up for practice
and rehearsal, and they said, oh, by the way,
you're out, John's back in. I guess I'll go back
home now. Flea kind of sets the songs anyhow.
His bass is the song, basically. The guitar follows
him. Yeah, bass and drums, that funk is... pretty
much what the Chili Peppers are all about. The
guitar is there as kind of an accent, like on
The Police. The guitar is not all that important.
Primus, the guitar is not all that important.
Yeah, it could actually be a variety of different
people. Yeah. Because it's so just not there,
you know. It's like all the later Beatles albums.
Ringo really didn't need to be there. No, he
didn't. I don't even know if he was. Yeah, I
mean, half those songs, either Lennon or McCartney
was playing the drums on them. Yeah. Yeah. All
right. And he's still around. Jimi Hendrix got
fired from Little Richard's band, The Upsetters.
Oh, actually, I knew that, yeah. Fired in 1965
because he was always late. And he dressed really
weird and he acted strangely on stage. And he
was too flamboyant, I read. He was upstaging
Little Richard. Yeah, he didn't like that. No.
And also showing up late and being fucked up
and all that and the excessive drug use. But
yeah, Little Richard did not like this other
guy over there fucking stealing the show. It's
just like when Jimi Hendrix on his own. was opening
for acts, they'd can him all the time because
he'd light his guitar on fire, and everyone would
be wanting to watch more of this new guy. Nobody
could follow that. Yeah. Nobody could follow
that. So they're all like going, hey, you're
out. Next up, we have Brian Jones, one of the
founding members of the Rolling Stones, one of
the most versatile musicians they've ever had
in that band, was fired in 1969 for drug use.
Supposedly, did you read that, have you ever
read the thing about it, they said he was murdered?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because a month later he was
face down in his pool. They say it was over music
rights and all that. Yeah, yeah, because he was
complaining about the way the songs were going.
He didn't want the mainstream success. He still
wanted to be rough and edgy and spontaneous.
The rest of the guys were falling in line with
the record label who said, hey, let's turn out
some hits. Everybody's going to get rich. And
Brian was like, I don't want to get rich. I just
want to have fun. But he had to go. And he really
did go. Yeah. And there was a woman named Marianne
Faithfull who kind of got... She kind of moved
around through that band. First she was this
guy's girlfriend, then this guy's girlfriend.
She was Brian Jones '... main girlfriend at the
time that he died but i remember always hearing
about some suspicion about her and some of the
dark things she got into later i remember that
too there's really nothing substantial you can
point to yeah and then a lot of people thought
she had too much influence on the band for not
being any type of a musical contributor she was
yoko before yoko yeah she yeah that's where she
got it yoko's like hey i want to be that yeah
Dave Mustaine getting fired from Metallica in
1983. Primarily, if you hear the band say, it's
because he was a mean drunk. He said, we all
get drunk, we're all happy and fun, and Dave
was just mean. Yeah. But there were also conflicts
over who was going to be the face of the band,
who was going to be the prominent one, and they
had their eye on Kirk Hamnett anyway. Yeah. Well,
I mean... I think the whole band was surly. Yeah,
I would say so. How do you tell who's mean and
who's not? I know. Yeah, I mean, just watch some
of their stuff that they admit. You're like,
okay. So anyhow, it doesn't matter. Both of them
did well. They did. All right, the rhythm section
for Journey. Ross Valerie on bass and Steve Smith
on drums. They were fired in 1985 during sessions
for the Raised on Radio album. I always wondered
why suddenly Steve Smith was out of the band.
Yeah, me too. I never really got anything definitive,
you know. Yeah. Okay. Rejoined in 1995 and then
both booted again in 2000 when Neil Sean accused
them of attempting to steal the rights to the
Journey Navy. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Lawsuits were
filed, countersuits were filed, and they eventually
settled out of court. Yeah. And Ross Valerie's
back in again. Yeah. Steve Smith, I don't think
is. No, I don't think he is. Steve is like, I
got a career outside you guys. I don't need this.
Yeah, I'm not getting any of you. Steve Smith
will never be hurting for work as long as he
can wield a pair of drumsticks. Yeah, yeah, and
I don't blame him. All right, next up, Alec John
Such, bass player. Oh, Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi, fired
in 1994 after five albums. John felt he wasn't
keeping up with everyone else's playing. He wasn't
evolving. He wasn't growing. And they would tell
Alec, you've got to learn these new styles and
these techniques. You've got to progress with
everyone else. And he's like, screw that. That
sounds like work. And I joined a band because
I didn't want to ever have to work. I didn't
realize that was part of it. Yeah, he said, I
ain't woodshedding these things. I ain't getting
any better. This is it. You know, I'm not working
any harder to get any better than this. I love
that. So they dumped him. I ain't doing it. That's
a flat no. Yep. I love that. Nah, not interested.
You'll know this one. Paul D 'Anno from Iron
Maiden in the early 80s due to massive cocaine
use. It needed to happen anyhow. Yeah, and he
has said even getting fired is what saved his
life. Yeah, yeah, until last year. Yeah. Yeah.
Okay, that needed to happen. Yeah. Because they
were not growing as a band at all. Yeah, they
were kind of stagnant. Bruce Dickinson brought
in all sorts of fresh new ideas and new avenues
to write and base their stage show around. Yeah,
and also the history that they like to tackle
with Bruce Dickinson. Not Blaze Bailey, not Paul
D 'Anno, but only Bruce Dickinson. So, yeah.
And Eddie got cooler with Dickinson, too. That's
true. Yeah, he got much cooler. Okay, got three
more. Okay. Dave Abrazees, drummer for Pearl
Jam, was fired in 1994 because he liked the rock
and roll lifestyle a little too much, and the
band was trying to maintain the image of shoegazers.
Yes. Anti -establishment, we don't care, we're
scared of shoes. Yeah. I remember at the time,
Dave Eversies was signing endorsement deals with
absolutely anybody that would have it. Drums,
cymbals, hardware, drumsticks, drum heads, sports
drinks, shoes, just on and on and on. He's like,
sure, I'll put my name on anything. And he was
like one of the original endorsement whores.
And the band said, yeah, this doesn't fit who
Pearl Jam is. You're Mr. Corporate Gimme More.
Yeah, and we're anti that. So their original
drummer was Jack Irons, who went and played as
the original drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers.
Oh, okay. But in both cases, he has such crushing
anxiety, performance anxiety, that he can't handle
touring. But that's who... No, wait, he wasn't
the first drummer of Pearl Jam. That was Dave
Kruzan. Yeah. It was Jack Irons was somebody
that Eddie Vedder really wanted and always wanted.
And as soon as the option came up to fire Dave,
he did and he said, I want Jack Irons in the
band. Yeah. And they made an album and about
a third of a tour before Jack Irons just broke
down and had to go home again. Yeah. And that
finally cured Eddie. He's like, all right, this
guy can't do it on the road. He's okay in the
studio, but he can't handle it on the road. Kind
of like Izzy Stradlin. Izzy Stradlin had the
same issue. Yeah, that's true. Anyhow, go ahead.
Darcy Retzke, the bass player for the Smashing
Pumpkins. She was fired for having differing
opinions on musical direction in songs, disappearing
during recording sessions, and massive crack
cocaine use. Billy Corgan called her a mean -spirited
drug addict who refused to get enough. Darcy
Redsky. Yeah, Darcy Redsky. Yeah, yeah. So here
comes the condom back on the mic again. The wind
is picking up. But I always thought she was a
really good bass player. She was a really good
bass player. And I liked the way she worked with
the drummer and everything. I know. Again, just
loved the rock guitar lifestyle a little too
much. Supposedly didn't like panties too well
either. Another Sharon Stone kind of thing. Yeah,
yeah. Supposedly you look up on the stage and
really look up on the stage. I remember the No
Doubt's drummer would perform totally nude. Yeah.
And since he was sitting behind his drums, you
didn't necessarily notice. But when they started
making music videos, like, you've got to get
some pants on this guy. Yeah, come on. All right,
and the last one I have, I remember this being
a real big deal back in 1983. when singer Peter
Wolfe was fired from the Jay Giles Band. Oh,
yeah. And this was right after the big breakout
album with Love Stinks and Centerfold and Freeze
Frame. Yeah, Freeze Frame. Yeah. And he was an
ex -DJ, which is why all the DJs around the world
were so angry when he got fired from the band.
Oh, yeah. But you know what the reason was? The
band wanted to do techno pop. Oh. Wolf said,
uh -uh. I ain't doing that. And they said, well,
you're out. And where is Jake Isles now? Nowhere.
Nowhere. I mean, they're not even like a tenth
on a bill somewhere. I've never heard any kind
of reunion. Well, Jake Isles himself left the
band a little while after that. Yeah, it's pretty
much over. It's been over. It's going to continue
to be over. So that's my shocking band firings,
and I've got a bunch of shocking... Or regrettable
times that someone quit a band. Oh, yeah, yeah,
let's hear that. This ought to be good. Tony
Chapman, drummer for the Rolling Stones. He quit
in 1962 because he thought that they were mistreating
the blues. I actually remember a little bit of
that. Yeah, like, okay. Great move there. Bob
Welch, guitar player for Fleetwood Mac. He left
in 1974 because he thought the band was just
going nowhere. Well, I think it was with him.
Pretty much. And they'd lost two other guitar
players prior to that. But him leaving opened
the way for Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks,
which was what they needed. That's what they
needed. And Bob Welch, he had a decent solo career,
actually. I mean, he had a few good songs. Yeah,
that's true. All right, two people quit Duran
Duran. Stephen Duffy on vocals in 1979. and Jeff
Thomas on vocals in 1981. Both of them were arguing
with the other band members. They just couldn't
get along. I would say it's the other band members,
not them. Yeah. But after Jeff Thomas left, they
got Simon Lebon, who became the face of Duran
Duran. Yeah. So that worked out great for Duran
Duran. Yeah, and he was a very charismatic lead
singer also. He was. Michael Dempsey, bass player
for The Cure, left. when they started working
on a new album and he didn't like any of the
songs. He's like, oh, no, I don't like any of
these. This is the new album? No, I'm not playing
these. So they said, well, okay, bye. They're
like, okay, you don't have to anymore. There
you go. Del Neal, a bass player, left The Killers
for health reasons in 2002, right before they
got Monstrous. Dick Evans. A guitar player left
U2 in favor of his little brother, The Edge.
Oh, okay. And at the time, he didn't think it
was any big deal. He's like, I'm in a different
band, too, and I think they're going to be bigger.
So he let his little brother, The Edge, have
the gig. Oops. Hopefully, The Edge pawned him
a couple of... Maybe bought him a house. Yeah,
something. I would buy him a house. I would,
too. Okay, David Marks, the vocalist, left the
Beach Boys in 1963 after a personality clash
with manager Murray Wilson, who was Brian Wilson's
and everybody else, every old Wilson boy's dad.
He ran the band. And David Marks was like, yeah,
you're not my dad. Okay, Kim Hill, a vocalist,
left the Black Eyed Peas in the year 2000 because
she couldn't get along with Will He Be. Oh wait,
Will I Am, Will He Be. Will I Am, Will He Be.
Will Him Be. Anyway, something like that. And
she didn't like the way the music was going either.
And they brought Fergie in. Yeah, they brought
Fergie in. Mostly what she brought to it was
visual appeal. Yes. That's about all she had.
Because Kim Hill was an excellent vocalist. And
Fergie wasn't any better. No. No. But I guess
she's more fun to look at for the audience members.
Okay, John Berry, guitar player, left the Beastie
Boys in 1982, 83, somewhere around there. He
lost interest in the band and just stopped showing
up. Like everyone else. Yeah. And he was the
one who prompted two of the existing members
of the Beastie Boys to keep going and learn new
stuff and, hey, don't drop, keep playing your
instrument, keep learning the new. So he was
a big mover and shaker for the Beastie Boys to
continue being, you know. breakthrough and try
to get success but he ran out of interest before
they ever got there that's funny isn't it we're
you just quit you guys can do this come on just
not with me may not at all i'm gonna go into
uh engineering but uh you guys keep doing you
can do this and another one just like him tracy
guns guitar player for guns and roses He left
a year before Appetite Destruction became monstrous
because he just lost interest and quit showing
up for rehearsals. He formed L .A. Guns after
that. Supposedly he had a lot of personal conflicts
with Axl and Duff. I think it was Duff. He had
some problems with both of them. you know, they
just couldn't get along. Yeah. So, yeah, and
he was going to quit music at one point, but
then he decided to, he got with Phil Lewis and
a couple other guys and said, you know, and they
formed LA Guns, who had some reasonable success.
They did. They did. Okay, guitar player Eric
Stefani left No Doubt right before Tragic Kingdom
was released. Oh. So he was on the album with
his little sister Gwen Stefani. Yeah, okay. But
before the album was released, He dropped out
of the band. He wanted to be reggae. He loved
reggae. That's all he wanted to play. And No
Doubt was kind of turning rock and roll. He's
like, I really don't want to do this. I don't
want to play rock and roll. I don't want to record
it. I don't want a rock and roll lifestyle. The
blonde cutesy singer. They wanted to take advantage
of that. I get it. And a lot of people have whispered
behind the scenes that... The enormous number
of breakup songs on Tragic Kingdom, because Wes
Stefani and the bass player, I forget his name,
Tony or Tay, they had broken up. And half the
songs on that album were about the breakup, and
Eric was like... And they were both good friends,
too, afterwards and all that, yeah. But behind
the scenes, people said Eric thought that that
was just a huge mistake. Turned out to be a great,
really successful album, but Eric thought, yeah,
this is just bad news. And I really don't want
to do this anyway, so off he went. Okay, John
Kiffmeyer, drummer for Green Day. He left after
the debut album called 39 Smooth because he wanted
to go to college. Oh, wow. And while he was gone,
Trey Cool took his place and never left. Never
left. He's like, yeah, you ain't getting your
job back. I hope he got a real nice degree. I
hope so, too. Okay, Angus McLeese, drummer for
the Velvet Underground, he left right before
their first ever gig because he thought the band
was selling out. They weren't. They were the
Velvet Underground. They weren't selling out.
They were not selling out. But, you know, right
before the gig, he's like, yeah, guys, I'm out
because you're all commercials. And they're all
looking at each other. And you know what? I've
never heard of Angus McLeese again. And probably
nobody wanted to hire him because he was a quitter.
Yep. All right, here's an interesting one. Jeff
Jones, the original bass player for Rush. I bet
you never heard of him. No. He and Alex Lifeson
were childhood friends, and they got together
first to form Rush. But Jeff Jones left in 1968.
He said it was too long of a commute to band
practice. It would take him like two hours to
get there. And the gig. You know, the gigs were
just as far away. And he found this other bass
player who lived just around the corner from
Alex named Geddy Lee. And he said, why don't
you use him? This is too far of a drive for me.
Why don't you just use Geddy and your band? And
I'm sure Alex was like, fuck. You get a gift.
And when Neil Peart showed up for his audition,
Alex and Geddy thought his car was pretty uncool.
and their first impression was, this guy's not
cool enough to play with us. Oh, yeah. But then
he set up and started playing, and they're like,
oh, yes, you are. We don't care. You're plenty
cool. Yeah. All right. Vocalist Terry Luttrell
left REO Speedwagon in 1971 after, what, one
or two albums? Couldn't get along with Gary Richrath,
their primary songwriter. Wow. Which is why the
original recording of Riding the Storm Out is
not Kevin Cronin on vocals. No. It's Terry Luttrell.
But Kevin Cronin replaced him and then never
left. And actually, I mean, they do sound very
similar, too. They do. Yeah, they do. Terry Glaze,
a singer, left Pantera in 1986 because he wanted
to stay glam. Yeah, and Pantera went, too. Their
next album after dumping him was Cowboys from
Hell. And also... That was such an album. They
needed Phil and Samo anyhow. Yeah. I mean, it
was a perfect marriage. Without Phil and Samo,
they got their sound. Yeah. Kind of like when
Disturbed got their vocalist. Yeah. Who was just
some guy who showed up their gig and would get
up on stage and start ad -libbing. Yeah. They're
like, this guy's pretty dang good. Yeah, they're
like, I'll keep him. Yeah, yeah. And that was
the best thing Pantera could have done. Because
they couldn't... They couldn't make it glam.
They weren't even close to making it glam. And
they're like, you know, hey. But, I mean, obviously,
I mean, could you see them doing anything else
after they did that? And then Niall Quinn, vocalist
for the Cranberries, left in 1990 because he
wanted to play drums in a punk band called The
Hitchers. and left the door open for Dolores
O 'Riordan, who made that band. Her vocals were
nuts. God, she was talented. Yeah, and she didn't
even really mean to do that type of a vocal.
It looked like it came so easy for her. Just
the emotion and the power just flowed out of
her. And if she hadn't been such a raging alcoholic,
she would have made so much more awesome music.
But she died really young. You know, the alcoholism
pretty much kept her from making any new material.
She just kind of coasted on the cranberry stuff.
But, man, what a shame. No, it is. She had so
much more to offer. That voice of hers. Just
still gives me chills to listen to her sing.
Zombie is one of my favorites. Zombie, yeah.
And that's where you get the, what would you
call it? The rasp that comes back. Yeah, the
snarl and the rasp and that little voice break
that she did, which was kind of an Irish. Yeah.
ethnic singing kind of thing is traditional for
Irish songs. Incorporating that into that type
of music, insane. Damn, if only she had been
a drinker. Yeah. What a shame. Yeah, true. All
right, my last one I have is Randall Curtis Hogan,
who nobody's ever heard of, but he performed
on the stage named Xeno, X -E -N -O, the original
singer for Cheap Trick. Isn't that weird? That
is. He left in 1974 to join a glam band called
Straight Up because they were going to pay him
more. Oh, wow. They paid him $250 a week. And
he left Cheap Trick for $250 a week. That's $12
,000 a year. Oh, yeah. That's it. But then again,
I mean, without Rob and Xander, would they have
ever made it like they did? I don't think so.
I don't think they would have either. I really
don't. But still, it was a stupid move. Yeah.
He didn't know what he had, obviously. Yeah.
Wow. So that's what I got. We're coming up on
two hours anyway. All right. I guess we're pretty
much finished here. Hey, man, thank you, everybody,
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