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Hey there, Slap Nets. It's time for the Creeps

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Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This

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is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. In a

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recent interview with WZLX's Kenny Young, Joe

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Perry once again spoke about the possibility

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of Aerosmith playing one final concert. A year

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after the legendary rockers announced that they

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were officially retiring from touring due to

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singer Steven Tyler's vocal injury. Aerosmith

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made the announcement August 2, 2024, nearly

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one year after the 77 -year -old singer fractured

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his larynx during a September 2023 show. Perry

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said about the likelihood of another Aerosmith

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show, We're actually talking quite a bit. I know

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our touring days are over, but I don't know.

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We're all flesh and blood. I don't know, but

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I would say at some point we will all be together

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on the same stage. If I was a betting man, which

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I am, I would say at some point something's going

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to happen, but we'll see. Stay tuned. This is

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Johnny Rohypnol. That was your music news. And

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remember, bar chords are bullshit. Harambe does

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not listen to our original show, Two Dipshits

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and a Cheap Radio Shack Realistic Tape Recorder

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anymore. You might ask why Harambe never listens

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to our original show, Two Dipshits and a Cheap

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Radio Shack Realistic Tape Recorder. Well, it's

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because Harambe is dead. Senselessly murdered

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because some idiot did not watch her child properly

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while looking on her phone. Sadly, Harambe does

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not listen to our original show, Two Dipshits

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and a Cheap Radio Shack Realistic Tape Recorder

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or any other show. anymore. Sorry Harambee. There

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we go. Almost got it all the way through. I got

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about 20 seconds. That's been our record here

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for the last two months. Oh, did you remember

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to bring a disc? Yes, I did. Oh, good. I hope

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they'll both fit on there, but we'll make it

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work. Oh, real quick, where did you find the

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old episodes at on RSS? I just started scrolling

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backwards through the pages. It brings up the

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most recent episodes, and that's page 1 of 55.

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So I just kept scrolling back, back, back, back,

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back, back, back, all the way to the very beginning.

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Okay, now this is the commercial one, not the

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one that we use, not the creator's one. Correct,

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it's the public site. That's it, the public site.

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Okay, that's what I was doing wrong. And at the

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very first page, page 55 and 55, there's like

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three episodes there that you didn't get the

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numbering correctly. because there are episodes

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with Mark. Oh, yeah, yeah, and I did another

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one instead of going and finding them. Yeah,

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so they wind up at the end of the list because

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there's no season and episodes. You can edit

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those and get them right where they need to be.

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But, yeah, there's the Storm special. There's,

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you know, there's all of our, there's Deep Sky,

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Mr. Creepy, remember him? Yeah, yeah, yes. So

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there's all sorts of good stuff we can revive.

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Yeah, that's what I want to do. I want to revive

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it because I have a lot of people like, you know,

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how about if we throw some of the old stuff in

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the new stuff? And I'm like, yeah, I've been

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doing that lately. It refreshes it so well. And

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even some of the stuff that we were dead wrong

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about. Yes. Yeah. I love that. That would be

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fun too. Oh, it is. Yeah. And yeah, so I'm going

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to keep doing that. I'm going to start repurposing

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the old ones and putting them in the middle.

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So, all right. That'll be fun for me to listen

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to too. Oh, hell yeah. Yep. All right. Do you

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want to go into bullet points? Do you have something

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you want to go with? Let's see. Well, I'll tell

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you what I have. I have shocking band firings.

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Okay. Most shocking times when a band fired somebody.

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Regrettable quitting of a band by somebody either

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before they got popular or went solo and it didn't

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work or whatever. Okay. I have rockers who are

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veterans. Okay. And I have oddball albums that

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really didn't fit the style of the band and were

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almost career killers. I want oddball albums

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that were almost career killers. Let's start

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with that one. And then after that, I can go

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into drop guitarist and said band. Yeah. Just

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because. All right. All right. Oddball albums.

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Our first one on the list is Ministry and their

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album With Sympathy. I'm not familiar with that

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one. A lot of people aren't because it was new

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wave and synth. pop that's why i'm not familiar

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when you think of ministry you know i saw ministry

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out at sandstone and yes i'm gonna call it sandstone

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yeah i saw sandstone is like damn these guys

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are hard they're relentless but they were good

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they were really good they are yeah they they

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do that style really well i do not see him doing

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any type of poppy new wave stuff at all weird

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new wave synth pop and he was singing He was

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singing on this. It's the weirdest thing. I'm

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going to have to go listen to it. I'm going to

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have to listen to it, too. Okay. Wow. So number

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two on the list, The Clash, one of the seminal

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punk bands of the 70s. They put an album called

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Cut the Crap, mostly synthesizers, for a punk

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band. Wow. Ditched the guitars and went synthesizing.

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I bet that didn't sell. Oh, no, no, no, no. That

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was kind of a career killer. I bet it was. I

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think that was the point where Joe Strummer had

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already left. Yeah, okay, and they were kind

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of in flux. Yeah, pretty much no original members,

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and they're like, let's put out one more album

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and do Money Grab. So that's what it wound up

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being. Okay. Next up on the list, Radiohead.

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And their album, Pablo Honey. Oh, yeah, yeah,

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that one sucked. It was pretty much straight

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-ahead grunge. And Radiohead's big thing is experimental,

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atmospheric sounds, electronic sounds. The thing

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was, it wasn't even good grunge. No, they didn't

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really know how to do straight -ahead grunge.

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I'm thinking the producer and or record label

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said, we need to put out a grunge album to compete

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with everybody else. I think you're right. Or

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fit in with everybody else. they were probably

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restricted in the studio with what they were

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allowed to do. Yeah. So that probably wasn't

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their choice. I'm pretty sure you talk to them,

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and that's probably their most hated album ever.

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Yeah, probably so. That's probably the one they

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hate the most, too. I would think so. And then

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I have two from Bob Dylan. Really? Two. Okay.

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Oh, I know one of them. He's been around forever.

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I know one of them, yeah. Number one, Bob Dylan's

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self -portrait. Yes. A double LP filled with

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covers of traditional songs, folk songs, pop

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songs, duets, and instrumentals. It's horrible.

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Isn't it? It is the most horrible fucking album.

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And it's like the last thing that Bob Dylan fans

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wanted. No. They want the poetry. They want the

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thought. They don't want this pop cover shit.

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It's just nuts. Yeah. Yeah, that's a good one.

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What's the second one then? The second one is

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called Under the Red Sky. And throughout the

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whole album, the lyrics he wrote for the songs

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were about on the par of your basic simple nursery

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rhyme. I mean, Dylan was celebrated and successful

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and famous for writing sharp, concise lyrics

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and his use of words and conveying meanings.

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He just phoned it in on this one. You know what?

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I think I remember a little bit about that album

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now. Very slick production. It was really overproduced.

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Overproduced, yeah. Again, the last thing Bob

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Dylan fans wanted was a slick, overproduced album

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with throwaway lyrics. Yeah. Okay. All right.

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Next up, the Ramones. Another seminal punk band

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from the 70s. They had an album called Acid Eaters.

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And it was covers of 60s... I don't remember

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that one either. It was covers of 60s songs.

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Psychedelia, rock, folk songs. Oh, no wonder

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I had... For a punk band. I don't think there's

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such a thing as psychedelic punk. I feel bad

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being a music fan, right? I'm a music fan and

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I didn't know these albums. Then when you tell

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me what they are, I'm like, okay, I don't feel

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bad now. Yeah, thank God I avoided them. Yeah.

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This next one I know you'll know very intimately.

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Okay. Kiss. Uh -huh. Which album do you think

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it is? The Elder. Yep. Yeah. Music from The Elder.

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It's described as an album -length suite of songs

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about a young medieval warrior's quest to save

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the world or something who can tell. Yeah. There's

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one song on there that I like, and it's dedicated

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to Gene Simmons' former boss, Mr. Blackwell.

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Yeah. You can go to hell. That is the closest

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thing they had to being a Kiss song. Yeah. And

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this is right after they went through the...

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No, this is right before they went through the

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dark, heavy stuff, like Creatures of the Night,

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All Hills Breaking Loose, War Machine, all that

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stuff. Yeah. God of Thunder. I love God of Thunder.

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Oh, that's great. That is so fun. That riff on

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that is iconic. I'm going to have to learn that.

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That riff doesn't get... I'm going to have to

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learn that. I don't think they down -tuned at

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all. I tried to avoid down -tuning. That wasn't

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Ace's deal, anyhow. Ace never down -tuned. That's

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what I like about Ghost. He doesn't down -tune.

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No, he doesn't. And that's how come they got

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that unique sound that he has right now, because

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he doesn't do it. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like when

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they quit Grunge, they didn't figure out how

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to do guitar right again. Yeah. It's kind of

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like, well, just keep it like it is. Why? That

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was for Grunge. So, anyhow. Okay, next up. Neil

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Young and his album Trans. At the time, trans

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meant transition or transistor. Yeah, it doesn't

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mean what it does now. Yeah, I mean, it was not

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associated at all with what we think of when

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we use the word trans now. But for Neil Young,

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Mr. Folk Rock, Mr. Protest Song, Mr. Me and Acoustic

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Guitar, synth -heavy, lots of heavily processed

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vocals. It's just the weirdest thing to hear

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that from Neil Young. Now, I've got the album,

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and I like a number of the songs, but they just

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don't sound like Neil Young. They really, really

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don't. No, I agree. I agree. Yeah, and I'm not

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much of a Neil Young fan either, but I would

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have to agree. Yeah. Some of his earlier stuff,

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like Ohio, And Southern Man was kind of, I mean,

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not Southern Man, Old Man. Old Man. Old Man,

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take a look at my life, I'm a lot like you were.

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Yeah, and then the Four Dead in Ohio was a protest

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song, and that gained popularity because he was

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protesting the shooting the government did. Yeah,

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National Guards killed four college students

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on Kent State campus in Ohio. Yep, and I agree

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with him on that one too. That was completely

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fucked. Yeah. All right, next up, R .E .M. and

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their album Around the Sun. Yeah, that would

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put you in deep sleep. Very obviously, the band

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was tired, and they just weren't even trying.

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They put no effort into the songwriting, no effort

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into the recording. It's basically unlistenable.

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And the band has since admitted, it's like, we

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were so tired of doing the same old stuff. Over

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and over, we were so worn out from tour, album,

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tour, album. It's like they just phoned it in

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and didn't care. Michael Stipe was really surly

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at that point in time, too. Yeah, yeah. I just

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don't see him doing anything without a fuss at

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that time. They bounced back with their next

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one. They did, yes. More than that. Anyhow. Okay,

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Rolling Stones. And their Oddball album is At

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Their Satanic Majesty's Request. Which I liked

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that one. It was actually a pretty decent album,

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it was. But it didn't fit the stuff. No. Go ahead,

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I'm sorry. I mean, even just look at the album

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cover. Very obviously they're copying Sgt. Pepper

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by the Beatles. Yes. And they felt very threatened

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by the Beatles. Yes. And it was clearly an effort

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to compete directly with the Sgt. Pepper album.

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The album was basically unfocused. Usually Stones

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albums have a little more of a theme or a focus

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or a direction. This was just kind of all over

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the place. There were some gems on that album.

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But to be honest, the Beatles albums were kind

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of unfocused too, but nobody cared. Nobody cared.

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They're the Beatles. But the problem with this

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is it painted the Stones as followers. Yes. Oh,

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you had a good idea, we'll just bandwagon on

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that. And that really wasn't who the Stones were.

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And that's why half of Black Sabbath did not

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want Paranoid. Oh, yeah. Because they felt that

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it was copying Led Zeppelin. Yeah. And I forgot

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which song, but if I can remember the song. Let's

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see. I can see that. It does sound like a Jimmy

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Page riff, doesn't it? Yeah, it does. Oh, Communication

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Breakdown. Yeah. And it does. I get it. I get

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it. I can hear that. Yeah. Anyhow, go ahead.

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Plus, The Stones got a reputation with that album

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as you're just trying to cash in. Yeah. Yeah.

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Geezer and Ozzy didn't like that one because

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of that. But, you know, The Stones, yeah, they

00:14:10.679 --> 00:14:13.120
were copying it. But I felt there was a couple

00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:14.799
of songs on there that were good. But, yeah,

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I agree. But, again, they bounced back. Yeah,

00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:19.679
they did. Put out some more awesome albums. And

00:14:19.679 --> 00:14:22.950
they're still around. Yeah, that's true. All

00:14:22.950 --> 00:14:25.509
right, U2. It's kind of hard to pick just one

00:14:25.509 --> 00:14:29.889
album for me. Yeah, me too. You could pick all

00:14:29.889 --> 00:14:32.649
of them except the first three. Yeah. And I go,

00:14:32.730 --> 00:14:36.649
yeah, they all suck. Mailed in. Well, the one

00:14:36.649 --> 00:14:39.610
singled out was their album called Pop. Oh, yeah.

00:14:40.149 --> 00:14:43.149
Now, it was the third of a trio of electro -pop

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albums. The first was Zuropa. The second was

00:14:46.110 --> 00:14:50.909
Octone Baby. And the third was Pop. And pretty

00:14:50.909 --> 00:14:53.190
much people could clearly see they'd run out

00:14:53.190 --> 00:14:55.929
of ideas. And they needed to change again. This

00:14:55.929 --> 00:14:58.450
is what happened when you get bored musically.

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Yeah. And you start experimenting. Don't. Just

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retire. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, ask Pearl Jam. Yes.

00:15:07.710 --> 00:15:10.690
Boy, they just cannot keep reaching out there

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and just keep trying. I think that someone bought

00:15:14.629 --> 00:15:18.879
me the album Vitology. Yeah. as a gift, and there's

00:15:18.879 --> 00:15:20.840
like one song on it I'll listen to. The rest

00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:23.519
of them is just like, I don't get it. The album

00:15:23.519 --> 00:15:25.919
was so completely different song to song. Yeah.

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I mean, they have like Blood, which is heavy

00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:34.179
as hell, and then you have, what was that, Better

00:15:34.179 --> 00:15:38.919
Man? Yeah. Yeah. Two completely different, I

00:15:38.919 --> 00:15:41.860
mean, you hear both of those songs, and one is

00:15:41.860 --> 00:15:44.279
like really heavy, makes Alice in Chains sound

00:15:44.279 --> 00:15:49.200
like a... A folk band. Yeah. So, anyhow. The

00:15:49.200 --> 00:15:53.960
weird thing was they talked about it as, you

00:15:53.960 --> 00:15:56.120
know, we worked hard on these songs and these

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are the ones we wanted, blah, blah. But it sounds

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like it's just a collection of the stuff that

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wasn't good enough to make it on their previous

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albums. To me, it's a tin can album. Yeah. Nothing

00:16:06.720 --> 00:16:09.799
in it branched out enough production -wise to

00:16:09.799 --> 00:16:11.879
sound like they took any time with it. It's a

00:16:11.879 --> 00:16:14.200
tin can album. You listen to it, it sounds like

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it's all in a tin can and that's it. Nothing

00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:19.700
really distinguishing anything from it. So, yeah.

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Okay. Next up, Van Halen. Van Halen 3 with Gary

00:16:26.679 --> 00:16:30.480
Cherone. Oh, yeah. No chemistry whatsoever. No,

00:16:30.480 --> 00:16:32.700
none at all. And also, those were Sammy Hagar

00:16:32.700 --> 00:16:36.200
songs, obviously. Yeah. Obviously. Gary Cherone

00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:39.980
took the time to sound just like him. Yeah. And

00:16:39.980 --> 00:16:42.919
I remember Eddie praising him in the press. Gary's

00:16:42.919 --> 00:16:44.720
awesome. He doesn't have lead singer disease.

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He'll work with us. He doesn't have a huge ego,

00:16:48.179 --> 00:16:51.860
blah, blah. But he just didn't fit. He just did

00:16:51.860 --> 00:16:56.259
not fit. He's a funk guy. Yeah. In the extreme.

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Absolutely. He needed to be in the extreme, which

00:16:58.779 --> 00:17:00.990
he is now. They have that song, Get the Funk

00:17:00.990 --> 00:17:03.409
Out. Yeah, yeah. I've played that song about

00:17:03.409 --> 00:17:06.450
a million times. Oh, yeah, yeah. He needs to

00:17:06.450 --> 00:17:08.529
be with Nuno Betancourt, not Eddie Van Halen.

00:17:10.710 --> 00:17:13.289
Him and Nuno were great friends, coincidentally.

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Yeah, I don't think there's much more to say.

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I mean, pick up that album and listen to two

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tracks and you'll get it. Yeah. Very unfocused

00:17:22.589 --> 00:17:24.670
album. Eddie Van Halen was going through some

00:17:24.670 --> 00:17:27.369
weird shit at the time. True. Everything else

00:17:27.369 --> 00:17:30.549
was getting bigger except them. Yeah. And he

00:17:30.549 --> 00:17:33.170
spent like over a million dollars on that video

00:17:33.170 --> 00:17:36.589
with the ice and the chicken and all that stuff.

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And the record company was like, no, no, no,

00:17:39.029 --> 00:17:41.490
but he did it anyhow and really pissed Warner

00:17:41.490 --> 00:17:45.730
Brothers off. It was a big fiasco. So, anyhow.

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What I forgot to mention about the U2 album,

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I think, is their one pop that sold the least

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since their very first debut album in 81. That's

00:17:55.430 --> 00:17:58.089
how bad they won. And this Van Halen 3, it was

00:17:58.089 --> 00:18:01.509
considered a shapeless mess. It was. Way too

00:18:01.509 --> 00:18:04.549
many guitar solos, way too long of a guitar solo.

00:18:06.380 --> 00:18:08.759
You see, and that was one of the things that

00:18:08.759 --> 00:18:11.559
was disturbing because before that, A. Van Halen

00:18:11.559 --> 00:18:14.160
knew exactly the touch he put on at Leaf. It

00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:19.960
was, I remember this being bantered around. If

00:18:19.960 --> 00:18:22.519
he doesn't have a songwriter, he's like that.

00:18:22.819 --> 00:18:26.539
Yeah. He needs a songwriting partner. Yes. Yeah.

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And this was the last, I think this was the last

00:18:29.680 --> 00:18:31.640
album Van Halen put out until they brought David

00:18:31.640 --> 00:18:33.819
Lee Roth back for the album A Different Kind

00:18:33.819 --> 00:18:36.180
of Truth. Tattoo Girl or something. New Tattoo.

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They said it was A New Kind of Truth or A Different

00:18:39.480 --> 00:18:41.500
Truth. A Different Kind of Truth. And the song

00:18:41.500 --> 00:18:44.380
was New Tattoo. Yeah. And it was horrible. Yeah.

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Okay. Believe it or not, David Lee Roth was a

00:18:49.019 --> 00:18:50.559
good writing partner when they were young. He

00:18:50.559 --> 00:18:52.700
actually was, yeah. He told them when to stop.

00:18:52.859 --> 00:18:54.640
He was like, no, no, no. He goes, look, this

00:18:54.640 --> 00:18:57.559
is my fucking part. Yeah. There's some filmmakers

00:18:57.559 --> 00:18:59.440
like that. It's like, you should have ended this

00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:01.539
movie 20 minutes ago, dude. Yeah, yeah. It's

00:19:01.539 --> 00:19:03.339
like, there's no reason all this needs to be

00:19:03.339 --> 00:19:06.740
here. Yeah. There's an author, a writer named

00:19:06.740 --> 00:19:10.140
James Mishner, who consistently wrote books that

00:19:10.140 --> 00:19:15.339
were about 150 pages too long. That was Van Halen

00:19:15.339 --> 00:19:19.119
3. Yeah. And seeing how many foreign noises I

00:19:19.119 --> 00:19:20.700
can put on an album. That's something else I

00:19:20.700 --> 00:19:22.779
noticed about that album. It's like, hey, bring

00:19:22.779 --> 00:19:24.880
that chandelier over here. Throw it on the ground.

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Yeah. Okay, record it. There's one piece of music

00:19:28.630 --> 00:19:31.750
my father wrote that one of the effects in it

00:19:31.750 --> 00:19:34.690
was to take, I think it was like a number 32

00:19:34.690 --> 00:19:38.769
cold chisel, and drop it onto the strings of

00:19:38.769 --> 00:19:41.609
a piano. Oh my gosh. And just let it bounce around.

00:19:42.049 --> 00:19:47.509
That was actually written into the score. I've

00:19:47.509 --> 00:19:50.289
also seen some sheet music where... Partway through

00:19:50.289 --> 00:19:52.690
the piece, it tells the piano player, stand up,

00:19:52.690 --> 00:19:55.710
turn around, and sit on the keys briefly, and

00:19:55.710 --> 00:19:57.869
then resume his seat and continue playing. Yeah,

00:19:57.869 --> 00:20:03.589
the old rock way of doing ass on keys. It's weird

00:20:03.589 --> 00:20:05.630
what people write into music just to be different.

00:20:05.849 --> 00:20:10.829
That's funny. All right, then my last album of

00:20:10.829 --> 00:20:13.829
oddball albums, George Lynch, You Know What It

00:20:13.829 --> 00:20:18.220
Is. Yeah, the rap album. Smoke this. Smoke this.

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It was rap, rap rock, nu metal, rapcore, whatever

00:20:23.099 --> 00:20:25.759
you want to call it. It was Oney's third album.

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He had a band for the first two and then pretty

00:20:29.819 --> 00:20:32.559
much destroyed them. Then it came out with this

00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:34.970
third album. He had Oney Logan. as the lead singer

00:20:34.970 --> 00:20:37.910
of Lynch Mob. Him and guitar. I forgot who was

00:20:37.910 --> 00:20:40.210
bass. It could have even been Rudy Sarzo maybe.

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He had this great band and they sounded great.

00:20:44.029 --> 00:20:47.009
Wicked Sensation was an amazing album and also

00:20:47.009 --> 00:20:50.369
song. And he was like really going for it. And

00:20:50.369 --> 00:20:52.430
then he decided he was going to take and do rap.

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And he was the joke of everything after that.

00:20:55.470 --> 00:20:59.329
Even if glam or straightforward metal wasn't

00:20:59.329 --> 00:21:01.950
anymore, it didn't matter. Yeah, he was... It

00:21:01.950 --> 00:21:04.490
was like he was trying to compete with Limp Bizkit

00:21:04.490 --> 00:21:08.509
or P .O .D. Yeah. Why? Yeah, why? That's not

00:21:08.509 --> 00:21:12.549
his thing. I mean, you wouldn't have, like, Gordon

00:21:12.549 --> 00:21:15.450
Lightfoot or Cary Carpenter suddenly trying to

00:21:15.450 --> 00:21:18.150
compete with Marilyn Manson. Yeah, for some reason.

00:21:18.150 --> 00:21:19.609
Different style of music, you know? Well, and

00:21:19.609 --> 00:21:22.269
also, another thing is, after that, of course,

00:21:22.269 --> 00:21:24.970
you go back to docking. Yeah. To have any credibility

00:21:24.970 --> 00:21:27.930
at all. It's like, okay, all that stuff is done.

00:21:28.029 --> 00:21:29.990
I'm back over here. It's kind of like what John

00:21:29.990 --> 00:21:32.029
5 is going to have to do once he gets out of

00:21:32.029 --> 00:21:33.690
Motley Crue. Oh, my God. I don't know if he can

00:21:33.690 --> 00:21:36.009
repair it now. It's going to be a struggle for

00:21:36.009 --> 00:21:38.309
him. Yeah. Because right now he just looks like

00:21:38.309 --> 00:21:40.250
a sellout who doesn't care about the music, just

00:21:40.250 --> 00:21:42.690
wants a paycheck. Yeah. And people are taking

00:21:42.690 --> 00:21:44.130
it as such. They're like, well, if you're going

00:21:44.130 --> 00:21:46.289
to do that, then just go ahead and join Rob Zombie

00:21:46.289 --> 00:21:49.710
again. Yeah. I'm sure he's not making any more

00:21:49.710 --> 00:21:52.480
of Motley Crue. He's probably not being treated

00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:57.339
very well. Probably not. I mean, if history repeats

00:21:57.339 --> 00:22:00.119
itself, he's going to end up disgruntled. So,

00:22:00.200 --> 00:22:03.000
anyhow. So that's my list of oddball albums.

00:22:03.220 --> 00:22:06.359
Okay. I came up with this segment. I didn't give

00:22:06.359 --> 00:22:07.900
you enough time because I just thought of it

00:22:07.900 --> 00:22:10.660
last night. I got a little brainstormed. Take

00:22:10.660 --> 00:22:15.559
a guitarist, and their current guitarist just

00:22:15.559 --> 00:22:17.819
dissolves into thin air. They don't have one.

00:22:18.299 --> 00:22:19.900
So all of a sudden they're like, oh shit, we

00:22:19.900 --> 00:22:21.599
don't have a guitarist. He just dissolved into

00:22:21.599 --> 00:22:23.960
thin air. Well, don't worry. I'm going to take

00:22:23.960 --> 00:22:25.900
so -and -so from this band and just drop them

00:22:25.900 --> 00:22:30.259
in there. Yeah. So my first one is, I would love

00:22:30.259 --> 00:22:34.640
to see, I can't even, I don't even know who the

00:22:34.640 --> 00:22:37.700
guitarist is now. It's no longer Steve Morris

00:22:37.700 --> 00:22:42.539
in Deep Purple. Oh, gosh. It doesn't matter.

00:22:42.700 --> 00:22:46.500
Yeah. Slash. Oh, Slash and Deep Purple. Could

00:22:46.500 --> 00:22:50.019
you imagine with his clunky style? Nice. Follow

00:22:50.019 --> 00:22:54.819
that up with, well, now Don Airy keyboards. Ian

00:22:54.819 --> 00:22:58.680
Gillen being able to sing decent. He won't hit

00:22:58.680 --> 00:23:01.140
the falsetto, but, man, he can do a lot. I mean,

00:23:01.180 --> 00:23:03.880
for an 80 -year -old man. That's amazing. Yeah.

00:23:05.400 --> 00:23:08.960
Wow, that would be good. Now, think of this one

00:23:08.960 --> 00:23:11.799
here coming up. Okay. How about Tony Iommi in

00:23:11.799 --> 00:23:16.269
Rainbow? Not purple. Rainbow. Oh, that would

00:23:16.269 --> 00:23:20.170
have... A lot of their really kind of pop, radio

00:23:20.170 --> 00:23:22.769
-friendly songs would have taken on a much meaner

00:23:22.769 --> 00:23:25.950
edge. Yeah. I like that. Richie Blackmore had

00:23:25.950 --> 00:23:29.190
that ability to write a poppy song, too. Yeah.

00:23:29.250 --> 00:23:31.769
For whatever reason. I mean, when he went in

00:23:31.769 --> 00:23:33.390
Rainbow, he went through all these different

00:23:33.390 --> 00:23:36.950
incarnations. He started off with the medieval,

00:23:37.089 --> 00:23:40.690
mystic, 20th century green sleeves of Ronnie

00:23:40.690 --> 00:23:44.740
James Dio. Mm -hmm. And then he went to the crotch

00:23:44.740 --> 00:23:48.240
rock, per se, with Grand Bonnet. Yeah. And then

00:23:48.240 --> 00:23:52.599
he went into probably a Q104 Top 40 -ish with

00:23:52.599 --> 00:23:55.319
Joe Lynn Turner. Yeah. And then he went back

00:23:55.319 --> 00:23:58.359
to Purple and did some great albums there again.

00:23:58.859 --> 00:24:01.779
Yeah. I would love to see Tony Iommi just in

00:24:01.779 --> 00:24:05.039
Rainbow without all the incarnations. Yeah. Just

00:24:05.039 --> 00:24:07.420
Tony Iommi's Tony Iommi. You're not going to

00:24:07.420 --> 00:24:11.039
get anything except his style of playing. Yeah.

00:24:11.559 --> 00:24:15.480
So, I think that would have been interesting.

00:24:15.960 --> 00:24:18.220
Yeah. And you could take any one of those singers.

00:24:18.299 --> 00:24:19.640
I would love to have seen him with Graham Bond

00:24:19.640 --> 00:24:22.920
in action. Yeah. Joe Lynn Turner? No slouch.

00:24:23.079 --> 00:24:26.079
That guy could sing. You put someone like that

00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:29.180
in Tony Omi's music, and it would be really interesting

00:24:29.180 --> 00:24:32.160
to see. I mean, like pretty much the Forgotten

00:24:32.160 --> 00:24:34.559
album, the Lost album, Born Again with Ian Gillan.

00:24:34.660 --> 00:24:38.839
Yeah. That thing's amazing. Wow. So many possibilities.

00:24:39.000 --> 00:24:42.589
Yeah. I came up with one. Just off the top of

00:24:42.589 --> 00:24:47.630
my head. Steve Howe disappears from Yes, and

00:24:47.630 --> 00:24:52.210
Alex Lifeson takes his place. Oh, my gosh. Different

00:24:52.210 --> 00:24:54.710
kind of prog rock, but still prog rock. Yes.

00:24:57.109 --> 00:24:59.569
He wouldn't have been quite as out there as Steve

00:24:59.569 --> 00:25:01.849
Howe, but he would rock the shit out of it. That's

00:25:01.849 --> 00:25:06.670
like five gummies. Yeah. Yeah, that's five gummies.

00:25:06.750 --> 00:25:09.230
That's like, hang on a minute. Before you do

00:25:09.230 --> 00:25:13.970
this, let me prep myself. I would love to hear

00:25:13.970 --> 00:25:16.470
that. Wouldn't that be cool? Yeah. They could

00:25:16.470 --> 00:25:18.430
actually do that if they wanted to. They could.

00:25:18.809 --> 00:25:24.230
Yeah. Okay, the next one. How about David Gilmour

00:25:24.230 --> 00:25:29.089
with a specific bluesy sound in the firm? Oh,

00:25:29.089 --> 00:25:33.950
yeah. Put him with Tony Franklin. Yeah. Yeah,

00:25:34.049 --> 00:25:40.390
and then, of course, Paul Rogers. The drummer.

00:25:42.369 --> 00:25:44.089
Shit, I can't think of his name. I looked him

00:25:44.089 --> 00:25:46.210
up just the other day. Yeah, he's a great drummer.

00:25:46.329 --> 00:25:49.910
Oh, well. Was it Tony Thompson? Yeah, I think

00:25:49.910 --> 00:25:52.809
so. Yeah. Yeah, that would have been excellent

00:25:52.809 --> 00:25:56.650
hearing David Gilmour in that. Oh, man. And I

00:25:56.650 --> 00:25:58.829
always had this fascination hearing someone like

00:25:58.829 --> 00:26:02.369
Gilmour with Paul Rogers. Yeah, I can see those

00:26:02.369 --> 00:26:05.789
styles meshing pretty well. I do too. Paul Rogers

00:26:05.789 --> 00:26:07.690
got that voice where he could handle about anything.

00:26:08.029 --> 00:26:11.829
I'd love to see how he handled his notes, his

00:26:11.829 --> 00:26:15.650
linger -ons, his bending. That'd be awesome.

00:26:15.990 --> 00:26:19.309
Wow. Now this one. Think about this before you

00:26:19.309 --> 00:26:24.910
go, oh, fuck. How about if you put Jimmy Page

00:26:24.910 --> 00:26:32.000
in Def Leppard? Ooh. Yeah. Instead of Phil Collin,

00:26:32.000 --> 00:26:36.000
but with Steve Clark? Or would he take Steve

00:26:36.000 --> 00:26:37.539
Clark's play? He'd take Steve Clark's play. Yeah,

00:26:37.559 --> 00:26:41.500
that makes more sense. Yeah, that would definitely

00:26:41.500 --> 00:26:44.380
work. Counterplaying against Phil Collin and

00:26:44.380 --> 00:26:45.980
his machine -like precision. They're both sloppy,

00:26:46.180 --> 00:26:49.579
but, you know. Steve and Jimmy, yeah, they were

00:26:49.579 --> 00:26:52.380
kind of two peas in a pod. Yeah, their playing

00:26:52.380 --> 00:26:54.660
style, although it doesn't seem on the surface,

00:26:54.720 --> 00:26:58.220
really were similar. Yeah, and it kind of needed

00:26:58.220 --> 00:27:00.880
to be to get that sound. Exactly, yeah. Wow,

00:27:01.119 --> 00:27:04.240
that would work. Yeah. Wow, I don't think I would

00:27:04.240 --> 00:27:05.480
have thought of that. Yeah, and then you have

00:27:05.480 --> 00:27:07.920
Phil Collin doing what he does, which is amazing.

00:27:08.059 --> 00:27:15.799
Yeah. Wow. How about you take, fuck, I forgot

00:27:15.799 --> 00:27:19.380
his name, From the Doors out and you insert Jimi

00:27:19.380 --> 00:27:24.359
Hendrix. Robbie Krieger. Robbie Krieger, thank

00:27:24.359 --> 00:27:27.099
you. Ooh, Hendrix would have worked. Yeah, he

00:27:27.099 --> 00:27:29.339
could even take some of Manzarek's stuff with

00:27:29.339 --> 00:27:32.000
his fucking sounds that he came up with. A drummer

00:27:32.000 --> 00:27:34.400
probably could have kept up with it, too. Yeah,

00:27:34.440 --> 00:27:38.059
I think so. Yeah, I was never really all that

00:27:38.059 --> 00:27:39.900
impressed with Robbie Krieger. I know a bunch

00:27:39.900 --> 00:27:41.960
of guitar players who think he's just godlike.

00:27:42.240 --> 00:27:44.599
I don't get that at all. I don't either. To me,

00:27:44.599 --> 00:27:47.539
he was pedestrian as fuck. Yeah, he just noodles

00:27:47.539 --> 00:27:50.720
around. Yeah. And his tone was crap. Yeah, his

00:27:50.720 --> 00:27:53.500
tone was horrible. Oh, well. He's another tin

00:27:53.500 --> 00:27:57.359
can guy. Yeah. Okay. Yeah, I'd love to see that.

00:28:00.140 --> 00:28:06.079
Richie Blackmore in Black Sabbath. Oh. If they

00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:07.559
didn't kill each other, they could bring some

00:28:07.559 --> 00:28:08.720
good music. They would have killed each other,

00:28:08.799 --> 00:28:16.420
yeah. Wow. Yeah, that would be an interesting

00:28:16.420 --> 00:28:19.410
mix of styles there. It would be. It would be

00:28:19.410 --> 00:28:22.710
more melodic with Richie, but Richie's sound

00:28:22.710 --> 00:28:27.250
would be heavier thanks to Sabbath. Yeah. Would

00:28:27.250 --> 00:28:30.109
he have made, well, at one time, I forgot all

00:28:30.109 --> 00:28:32.230
their keyboard players, but the most famous was

00:28:32.230 --> 00:28:34.509
Jeff Nichols. Would he have made Jeff Nichols

00:28:34.509 --> 00:28:38.930
be that backup guitarist? Probably. I think so,

00:28:39.009 --> 00:28:40.930
too. I think he'd have been like, no, no, no,

00:28:40.930 --> 00:28:42.609
no, you're not going to play the Mystic stuff.

00:28:42.730 --> 00:28:45.450
Here's what we're doing. You're with me. We're

00:28:45.450 --> 00:28:47.369
going to be unison in this heavy sound. Yeah.

00:28:47.849 --> 00:28:51.109
Did Tony Iommi ever play with a second guitarist?

00:28:51.210 --> 00:28:53.869
No. I don't think he ever did. He didn't believe

00:28:53.869 --> 00:28:58.089
it. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, you got someone like

00:28:58.089 --> 00:29:00.750
Tony Iommi, you really don't need one. Yeah.

00:29:01.069 --> 00:29:03.190
Another guitarist in Sabbath would have ruined

00:29:03.190 --> 00:29:08.910
it. That's true. Yeah. Yeah, you really need

00:29:08.910 --> 00:29:11.740
it. Tony to be able to express exactly what he

00:29:11.740 --> 00:29:14.500
wanted to without working around another guitar

00:29:14.500 --> 00:29:17.099
player. He was the music more than anybody else,

00:29:17.119 --> 00:29:19.160
even though there's so many different facets

00:29:19.160 --> 00:29:22.259
to it. Like Ozzy and then Dio made it a completely

00:29:22.259 --> 00:29:24.579
different band. That's true. That's true. But

00:29:24.579 --> 00:29:26.359
sometimes that's what you really need. If you're

00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:29.240
losing a key member like Ozzy, you've got to

00:29:29.240 --> 00:29:31.519
change a little bit. They went completely different.

00:29:31.740 --> 00:29:34.339
And I said, no, you know, this guy is not going

00:29:34.339 --> 00:29:37.059
to be the guy up there screaming and jumping

00:29:37.059 --> 00:29:39.609
all over the place and out of tune. This guy's

00:29:39.609 --> 00:29:42.869
going to be a perfectionist. Yeah, when Primus

00:29:42.869 --> 00:29:46.250
recently needed to replace their drummer, they

00:29:46.250 --> 00:29:48.329
said right off the bat, we're not looking for

00:29:48.329 --> 00:29:51.250
somebody who's a clone of Tim Herb Alexander.

00:29:51.670 --> 00:29:53.609
We're looking for somebody who brings something

00:29:53.609 --> 00:29:56.829
new. Yeah, I remember that. I think every band

00:29:56.829 --> 00:29:59.069
should do that. I mean, Journey got away with

00:29:59.069 --> 00:30:03.769
hiring a clone. Well, nobody even knew. Yeah.

00:30:03.769 --> 00:30:07.940
You know, I mean. Yeah. It worked okay for Journey,

00:30:08.059 --> 00:30:10.740
but it meant Journey was stuck back in the 80s

00:30:10.740 --> 00:30:12.460
and they would never be anything else. There

00:30:12.460 --> 00:30:14.920
was no room for growth. And they didn't care,

00:30:15.079 --> 00:30:17.039
I don't think, either. No, they just wanted to

00:30:17.039 --> 00:30:19.039
ride what they'd already done. I still consider

00:30:19.039 --> 00:30:21.119
Neil Shone a wasted talent, although that's what

00:30:21.119 --> 00:30:24.900
he wanted to do. Yeah. So, yeah. I mean, he learned

00:30:24.900 --> 00:30:28.539
playing under Carlos Santana. Yeah. So he's no

00:30:28.539 --> 00:30:32.220
slouch. No, he had so much more to offer, and

00:30:32.220 --> 00:30:34.160
you could see little bits of it on certain songs,

00:30:34.240 --> 00:30:36.640
but he never went there. Yeah, yeah. I remember

00:30:36.640 --> 00:30:39.079
he would complain in Journey that he was being

00:30:39.079 --> 00:30:42.000
restrained and held back and he couldn't express

00:30:42.000 --> 00:30:44.380
himself, yet he stays. Yeah, and why didn't,

00:30:44.380 --> 00:30:46.380
you know, he came out with Neil's Shone Project

00:30:46.380 --> 00:30:49.140
and all that. Yeah. I didn't see anything that

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:51.059
far different, so I don't know what he was talking

00:30:51.059 --> 00:30:53.200
about. But I do remember him saying something

00:30:53.200 --> 00:30:55.140
about it, like he's kind of being caged, but

00:30:55.140 --> 00:30:57.900
I don't know. All right, how about Mick Ralphs,

00:30:57.900 --> 00:31:03.599
God rest his soul? Put him in Boston. Oh, yeah,

00:31:03.720 --> 00:31:08.279
because Boston really needed that perfect gloss

00:31:08.279 --> 00:31:12.799
taken off their recordings, a little rough, snarly,

00:31:12.799 --> 00:31:15.309
snaggy edge. thrown in there. I would love to

00:31:15.309 --> 00:31:17.509
hear it. That would have been great. That was

00:31:17.509 --> 00:31:20.390
always my big knock against Boston. I love Boston,

00:31:20.509 --> 00:31:23.869
but everything just sounded too pretty for songs

00:31:23.869 --> 00:31:25.990
that weren't necessarily supposed to be pretty.

00:31:26.309 --> 00:31:30.990
Yeah, I agree. Those songs could have been roughed

00:31:30.990 --> 00:31:35.369
up and to me been something I liked better. And

00:31:35.369 --> 00:31:37.990
I love Boston, but I think that I would have

00:31:37.990 --> 00:31:40.789
liked their stuff dirtied up a bit. Yeah, yeah.

00:31:40.950 --> 00:31:44.109
Put some overdrive on the bass, man. Yeah, yeah.

00:31:44.309 --> 00:31:46.789
You know, rice is good, right? Yeah. But then

00:31:46.789 --> 00:31:49.210
make a dirty rice that's even fucking better.

00:31:49.289 --> 00:31:56.809
Absolutely. Overdrive on the bass. Make it sound

00:31:56.809 --> 00:32:01.589
like Lemmy. Yeah, yes. Or the Melvins. And then

00:32:01.589 --> 00:32:07.910
sing like the Melvins. More than a feeling. I

00:32:07.910 --> 00:32:14.390
can't even do it. Hey, the Melvins suck. It's

00:32:14.390 --> 00:32:16.210
funny because I used to get people arguing. They

00:32:16.210 --> 00:32:18.309
do not. I'm like, you don't fucking know them.

00:32:18.450 --> 00:32:20.990
You don't know the Melvins. That's their thing.

00:32:21.089 --> 00:32:23.910
They're supposed to suck. Yeah, we suck. That's

00:32:23.910 --> 00:32:26.789
kind of their thing is they're awful. If you

00:32:26.789 --> 00:32:28.329
call them good, they're going to be offended.

00:32:28.549 --> 00:32:30.829
Yes, they are. These idiots go, they're not.

00:32:30.869 --> 00:32:34.130
They're great. No, that's the joke. They suck.

00:32:34.130 --> 00:32:37.710
Yeah, that's the joke. Oh, well. Yeah, yeah.

00:32:37.809 --> 00:32:42.690
Okay. Mick Mars. Right? Yeah. I'd like to see

00:32:42.690 --> 00:32:47.329
him land an ELO. Whoa. Now, Mick is precise.

00:32:48.009 --> 00:32:52.430
He's not fast normally. Yeah. He's a really good

00:32:52.430 --> 00:32:58.170
chord arranger. Yeah. Imagine that ELO. I think

00:32:58.170 --> 00:33:01.150
it'd be a fit. I think it'd be a great fit. Yeah.

00:33:01.650 --> 00:33:06.049
And his guitar tone, too, an ELO. ELO had a number

00:33:06.049 --> 00:33:09.269
of songs with a good hard -edge snarling guitar

00:33:09.269 --> 00:33:11.950
in it because Jeff Lynn loved his Marshall amp.

00:33:12.029 --> 00:33:16.390
Oh, he did, yes. You know, that might have knocked

00:33:16.390 --> 00:33:18.369
the strings out. I remember Jeff Lynn saying

00:33:18.369 --> 00:33:22.490
that when he first started ELO, on the day that

00:33:22.490 --> 00:33:24.470
they go into the studio to do the string parts,

00:33:24.589 --> 00:33:26.190
he's like, all right, I get to do the strings.

00:33:26.349 --> 00:33:29.650
This is so cool. This is so fun. But by the third

00:33:29.650 --> 00:33:32.609
or fourth album, he's like, ugh. I have to go

00:33:32.609 --> 00:33:35.950
do strings in the studio today. This sucks. So

00:33:35.950 --> 00:33:38.470
at that point, he would have welcomed Mick Mars

00:33:38.470 --> 00:33:41.849
and probably dumped everybody but the violin

00:33:41.849 --> 00:33:47.349
player. Yes. And I mean, actually, he could have

00:33:47.349 --> 00:33:49.369
had whatever to do with it too, but I just think

00:33:49.369 --> 00:33:51.450
that Mick Mars with that sound and that element

00:33:51.450 --> 00:33:55.950
would have fit in. Yeah, yeah. But no, I agree

00:33:55.950 --> 00:33:58.170
with you. You've been like, Erwin, get out. Yeah.

00:33:58.529 --> 00:34:00.960
Me and Mick are going to do some music. If we

00:34:00.960 --> 00:34:04.559
need you, we'll call you. Yeah. All right. How

00:34:04.559 --> 00:34:08.039
about if you take Joe Saturani as precise as

00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.159
he is with that boogie -woogie type of style?

00:34:10.400 --> 00:34:17.019
We'll throw him in Steely Dan. Wow. Would he

00:34:17.019 --> 00:34:19.639
play by the rules enough for him? I don't think

00:34:19.639 --> 00:34:21.320
so. I don't think so either. I don't think so

00:34:21.320 --> 00:34:22.820
either. I think there would be a couple of fistfights.

00:34:23.159 --> 00:34:26.849
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we all know that Satriani

00:34:26.849 --> 00:34:28.469
is an alien. Look at him. Yeah, that's true.

00:34:28.570 --> 00:34:30.650
He would kill them. He and Josh Allen are from

00:34:30.650 --> 00:34:33.489
the same planet, I think. Yeah, he would kill

00:34:33.489 --> 00:34:35.550
them with his weird eyes. He would, like, fucking

00:34:35.550 --> 00:34:37.690
shoot lasers out of them and melt them on the

00:34:37.690 --> 00:34:41.170
spot. Yeah, if Becker and Fagan could handle

00:34:41.170 --> 00:34:43.670
having him in the studio, he could make some

00:34:43.670 --> 00:34:46.690
good stuff. Yeah. Yeah, but they would have to

00:34:46.690 --> 00:34:48.849
be able to tote him down and put him within the

00:34:48.849 --> 00:34:52.090
lines. Yeah. Which, Satriani's good enough to

00:34:52.090 --> 00:34:54.760
be in the lines. Yeah. He just doesn't prefer

00:34:54.760 --> 00:34:57.940
it. Yeah. Anyhow, I think it will work if you

00:34:57.940 --> 00:35:00.920
get in the right situation. Yeah. I already mentioned

00:35:00.920 --> 00:35:03.679
it in the car. How about George Lynch and Ozzy

00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.760
Solo? Imagine a kick in the ass that would have

00:35:06.760 --> 00:35:08.360
gave him. That would have been awesome. Yeah.

00:35:10.159 --> 00:35:12.719
And if he had long hair, that would have been

00:35:12.719 --> 00:35:15.539
the case. Yeah. But Sharon looked at him and

00:35:15.539 --> 00:35:17.699
said, he's got short hair. No, can't use him.

00:35:17.840 --> 00:35:21.679
Yeah. All right. That's how I got into the band

00:35:21.679 --> 00:35:24.130
Weatherhead. It's because the other drummer who

00:35:24.130 --> 00:35:27.869
auditioned had short hair. And so did the guitar

00:35:27.869 --> 00:35:29.550
player. So it's like, we can't have two short

00:35:29.550 --> 00:35:31.769
hairs in the band. So my hair was long. He's

00:35:31.769 --> 00:35:36.409
like, all right, you're in. I went right over

00:35:36.409 --> 00:35:38.170
there and stuck my nuts in his face and said,

00:35:38.210 --> 00:35:41.949
there! There! I was in the band for like three

00:35:41.949 --> 00:35:44.989
years, I think. Oh, yep. Even more reason to

00:35:44.989 --> 00:35:50.789
stick your nuts in his face. How about... Zach

00:35:50.789 --> 00:35:58.489
Wild goes in Rat. Oh. Ooh. Yeah. Well, he could

00:35:58.489 --> 00:36:03.289
play all of D -Martini's stuff. D -Martini's

00:36:03.289 --> 00:36:05.730
a pretty underrated guitarist as far as I'm concerned.

00:36:05.849 --> 00:36:07.869
He's pretty good. Yeah, he is. He always has

00:36:07.869 --> 00:36:10.469
been good. And Rat's drummer is pretty damn awesome,

00:36:10.530 --> 00:36:12.829
too. Yeah. You don't really get to hear it much.

00:36:13.150 --> 00:36:15.449
No. But, like, at the end of Round and Round,

00:36:15.690 --> 00:36:19.619
I listen to his... I've forgotten his name. I'll

00:36:19.619 --> 00:36:21.019
just take your word for it. I think it's Blotzer,

00:36:21.059 --> 00:36:23.780
Bobby Blotzer. Anyhow, go ahead. But as round

00:36:23.780 --> 00:36:25.980
and round is ending and they're doing the repeat

00:36:25.980 --> 00:36:27.940
and fade, just listen to the fills he's throwing

00:36:27.940 --> 00:36:30.980
in there. The guy could play, but he was smart

00:36:30.980 --> 00:36:33.780
enough to hold back and not play too much. And

00:36:33.780 --> 00:36:36.519
also, I love Jeff Pilsen's playing. He's got

00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:40.099
a really solid – oh, no, that's Dawkins. I forget.

00:36:40.559 --> 00:36:42.519
I knew the name, but I didn't know that. Yeah.

00:36:43.260 --> 00:36:47.139
Long crusher. Yeah. Yeah, long pressure. Had

00:36:47.139 --> 00:36:49.460
a very distinct style that you could... If you

00:36:49.460 --> 00:36:51.320
were walking in another room and you heard that,

00:36:51.380 --> 00:36:53.619
you'd go, oh, yeah, that's round and round. That's

00:36:53.619 --> 00:36:57.079
wanted man. That's lay it down. Very distinctive

00:36:57.079 --> 00:37:03.280
backbeat. So, with Blotzer. How about Yngwie

00:37:03.280 --> 00:37:10.019
Malmsteen in Dio Solo? Would the studio have

00:37:10.019 --> 00:37:13.379
been big enough for Yngwie Malmsteen's ego? Or

00:37:13.379 --> 00:37:15.840
Dio's. Yeah, getting those two egos in the same

00:37:15.840 --> 00:37:18.360
room is like, yeah. After they got done beating

00:37:18.360 --> 00:37:22.559
the hell out of each other. Dio was short, but

00:37:22.559 --> 00:37:25.079
he could put up a fight. Oh, yeah, yeah, feisty

00:37:25.079 --> 00:37:28.599
little guy. Yeah, he's the kind of guy that'd

00:37:28.599 --> 00:37:30.159
drink a pint of beer and then hit you in the

00:37:30.159 --> 00:37:34.619
face with it. Yeah. No, actually, very likable

00:37:34.619 --> 00:37:39.559
guy. He loved his fans. Kind of had some personal

00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:42.559
stuff with some people for whatever reason. Like,

00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.960
you know, they could say that him and Ozzy were

00:37:44.960 --> 00:37:47.559
best friends. No, they weren't. No, they weren't.

00:37:47.559 --> 00:37:52.519
No, I've heard Dio say some things. And there

00:37:52.519 --> 00:37:55.699
was some sort of a rivalry there, yes. I've got

00:37:55.699 --> 00:37:59.400
one for you. Okay. Adam Jones from Tool. Uh -huh.

00:38:00.139 --> 00:38:06.679
And put him in Soundgarden. Ooh. Hey there, slap

00:38:06.679 --> 00:38:12.579
nuts. It's time for the Creeps Music News. Hey,

00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.159
my little pumpkin seeds. This is Johnny Rohypnol

00:38:15.159 --> 00:38:18.639
with your music news. Sepultura guitarist Andreas

00:38:18.639 --> 00:38:21.139
Kaiser spoke about the band's plans to release

00:38:21.139 --> 00:38:24.059
new music with Sepultura's current touring drummer,

00:38:24.380 --> 00:38:27.360
23 -year -old Grayson Neckerman, who officially

00:38:27.360 --> 00:38:29.840
replaced Sepultura's longtime drummer, Elroy

00:38:29.840 --> 00:38:34.500
Casagrande, in February 2024. He said, as transcribed

00:38:34.500 --> 00:38:37.699
by blebrow .no, we recorded four new songs with

00:38:37.699 --> 00:38:40.119
Grayson on drums. I don't think anybody knows

00:38:40.119 --> 00:38:43.039
that, but there you go. We have four new songs,

00:38:43.179 --> 00:38:45.679
and we have the intention next year to release

00:38:45.679 --> 00:38:49.059
them in an EP. This is Johnny Rohypnol. That

00:38:49.059 --> 00:38:51.800
was your music news, and remember, bar chords

00:38:51.800 --> 00:39:07.730
are bullshit. aren't you? Yes, I am. Because

00:39:07.730 --> 00:39:10.429
Adam can get... Kim Thall goes. Yeah, Kim Thall

00:39:10.429 --> 00:39:14.489
goes. Yeah. But I think Adam Jones could definitely

00:39:14.489 --> 00:39:16.789
keep up. Yeah. Because, you know, he makes the

00:39:16.789 --> 00:39:20.210
weird squeaky noises and the big, you know, grindy

00:39:20.210 --> 00:39:24.880
thunder guitar noises. Kim Thall, Thall. Kim

00:39:24.880 --> 00:39:27.639
Thayil or whatever it is. Is it Thayil or Thall?

00:39:27.800 --> 00:39:30.360
I think it's Thayil. It's T -H -A -Y -I -L. So

00:39:30.360 --> 00:39:32.500
I've heard Thayil. I've heard Thayil. I've heard

00:39:32.500 --> 00:39:38.000
Thayil. I don't know. Okay. Well, he is like

00:39:38.000 --> 00:39:42.440
a very underrated Tom Morello. Yeah. Yeah, I

00:39:42.440 --> 00:39:44.360
would definitely put him in that league. Yeah,

00:39:44.400 --> 00:39:47.980
the sounds that he creates, that creates the

00:39:47.980 --> 00:39:50.539
solos and the feeling of the song are so underrated.

00:39:50.599 --> 00:39:52.820
A lot of people don't get it. It escapes them.

00:39:53.039 --> 00:39:57.070
Yeah. I would love that, yeah. That sounded kind

00:39:57.070 --> 00:40:00.769
of intriguing. I would love to hear it done.

00:40:00.969 --> 00:40:02.969
Yeah. Probably never happened, but I would love

00:40:02.969 --> 00:40:07.130
to hear it done. All right, how about Robin Trower

00:40:07.130 --> 00:40:12.210
in early Motley Crue? Ooh. Same style. Bring

00:40:12.210 --> 00:40:15.289
a little bit of psychedelia into it, yeah. The

00:40:15.289 --> 00:40:19.090
same straightforward guitar playing style. Robin

00:40:19.090 --> 00:40:21.710
Trower was definitely heavily influenced by Hendrix.

00:40:21.929 --> 00:40:25.960
Yes. I'm not sure who Mick Mars has influenced

00:40:25.960 --> 00:40:31.900
as well. The devil? Yeah, probably. Mick Mars,

00:40:32.079 --> 00:40:37.719
who? Maybe Leslie West. Leslie West, very much.

00:40:37.719 --> 00:40:39.900
He'd be a good one. I would say Ace Frehley.

00:40:40.119 --> 00:40:43.119
Yeah, I could see him definitely being inspired

00:40:43.119 --> 00:40:46.519
by Kiss and everybody who tried to jump on the

00:40:46.519 --> 00:40:49.000
Kiss bandwagon. Yeah, I think just that basic

00:40:49.000 --> 00:40:52.969
songwriting skill. If he did write them, I'm

00:40:52.969 --> 00:40:55.389
not sure what all he had to do with the guitar

00:40:55.389 --> 00:40:57.630
parts, but if it's what I imagine, then I would

00:40:57.630 --> 00:41:02.730
say probably Ace. Who was the guy for Priest?

00:41:05.989 --> 00:41:12.090
Opposite KK. Glenn Tipton. Yeah, Tipton, yeah.

00:41:12.150 --> 00:41:13.809
I think Glenn Tipton. He might have a little

00:41:13.809 --> 00:41:17.590
Glenn Tipton in him. Yeah. So, anyhow. All right,

00:41:17.590 --> 00:41:19.769
then finally, I have Billy Gibbons and Fleetwood

00:41:19.769 --> 00:41:25.219
Mac. After they got done fighting. Yeah. Yeah.

00:41:25.320 --> 00:41:28.940
And after Lindsey Buckingham storms off and says,

00:41:29.079 --> 00:41:31.000
fuck you guys, I'm never playing with you again.

00:41:31.159 --> 00:41:33.380
And then two days later when he comes back and

00:41:33.380 --> 00:41:36.599
they figure things out. Then after when Mick

00:41:36.599 --> 00:41:38.980
Fleetwood comes back and he isn't pissed off.

00:41:39.099 --> 00:41:41.719
And then after Stevie Nicks comes back from rehab

00:41:41.719 --> 00:41:45.300
and Christy McVie is resurrected from the dead.

00:41:45.440 --> 00:41:50.079
Yeah. Then bring in Billy Gibbons. It's blues

00:41:50.079 --> 00:41:53.639
-based rock. Yeah. I mean, it's just harder than

00:41:53.639 --> 00:41:56.019
Fleetwood's ever played anything before. To me,

00:41:56.099 --> 00:41:58.860
I just think, why not? Yeah. And I'm not even

00:41:58.860 --> 00:42:01.360
guaranteeing it'll work, but I want to hear it

00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:05.400
tried. Yeah. I had a different idea for Fleetwood

00:42:05.400 --> 00:42:09.099
Mac. I was going to put Brian Setzer. Oh! Oh,

00:42:09.139 --> 00:42:12.019
I get better. Mr. Rockabilly. Yeah. I can see

00:42:12.019 --> 00:42:15.760
him with his rolled -up pant legs and his sneakers

00:42:15.760 --> 00:42:18.619
fucking tapping. And the hair. Hair product in

00:42:18.619 --> 00:42:21.139
his hair. Yeah, yeah. His big, giant, gretch,

00:42:21.159 --> 00:42:25.780
hollow -body guitar. It was like Mick Cleveland

00:42:25.780 --> 00:42:28.099
coming out with his drum kit and going, wait

00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:31.920
a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute. What's

00:42:31.920 --> 00:42:37.260
he doing? Get rid of him right now and do it.

00:42:37.539 --> 00:42:42.739
How about putting Ted Nugent in ACDC? I'd love

00:42:42.739 --> 00:42:45.500
that. I think he would fit back when he was playing

00:42:45.500 --> 00:42:48.139
the Birdland guitars in the 70s. Yeah, yeah,

00:42:48.199 --> 00:42:53.940
the, what era? The Great White Buffalo, Cat Scratch

00:42:53.940 --> 00:42:56.719
Fever. Cat Scratch Fever, yeah. Stranglehold.

00:42:56.820 --> 00:42:59.260
Yeah, the albums that only had him on the front

00:42:59.260 --> 00:43:01.699
scratching himself or something like that. Yeah,

00:43:01.719 --> 00:43:04.000
yeah, yeah. Yeah, when he got into Night Ranger,

00:43:04.179 --> 00:43:06.760
he started playing solid body guitars. Yes, and

00:43:06.760 --> 00:43:09.159
he changed his style. No, Damn Yankees, I'm sorry,

00:43:09.219 --> 00:43:10.619
not Night Ranger. Damn Yankees, yeah, well, it

00:43:10.619 --> 00:43:13.949
was part of Night Ranger. Yeah. Damn Yankees

00:43:13.949 --> 00:43:15.489
was completely different. They were very good,

00:43:15.570 --> 00:43:17.190
but, man, he played so different, you wouldn't

00:43:17.190 --> 00:43:19.849
even know it was Sweaty Teddy. Yeah, yeah. I

00:43:19.849 --> 00:43:21.269
remember the time he said, I'm trying to change

00:43:21.269 --> 00:43:24.090
my image. It was like, well, you did. Yeah. You

00:43:24.090 --> 00:43:29.469
did. Still got that young life. Real young life.

00:43:29.570 --> 00:43:33.309
Very young life. That's all I got. All right.

00:43:34.550 --> 00:43:37.349
How would you like to hear about rockers who

00:43:37.349 --> 00:43:41.119
were veterans? Yeah. Sammy Hagar. I should have

00:43:41.119 --> 00:43:46.019
had this for Veterans Day, but we're going early.

00:43:46.320 --> 00:43:53.039
Okay. I didn't hit Sammy Hagar. No, he's a veteran.

00:43:53.219 --> 00:43:55.559
He wrote songs about it. Remember the Heroes?

00:43:56.019 --> 00:44:01.760
Oh, yeah. And Still in Saigon. His album VOA.

00:44:02.760 --> 00:44:06.579
Voice of America. Yeah. Yeah. All right. I wonder

00:44:06.579 --> 00:44:09.599
why I didn't find him. Well, who I've got. He

00:44:09.599 --> 00:44:12.900
was in NOM. He was in Vietnam. Oh, gosh. Yeah.

00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.719
Anyhow, go ahead. Yeah, he is that age. He was

00:44:15.719 --> 00:44:20.860
in Vietnam for real. Anyhow, he still does a

00:44:20.860 --> 00:44:23.780
lot for veterans. Bruce Springsteen, I think.

00:44:23.860 --> 00:44:26.579
You know what? Go to your list. All right. First

00:44:26.579 --> 00:44:29.260
up, Maynard James Keenan from Tool. Didn't know

00:44:29.260 --> 00:44:31.800
that. He was in the Army. That's where he got

00:44:31.800 --> 00:44:38.519
the nickname Maynard. Okay. Maynard. The song

00:44:38.519 --> 00:44:43.880
on their second album, a song called 46 and 2,

00:44:43.980 --> 00:44:49.639
that apparently has a lot to do with being in

00:44:49.639 --> 00:44:55.500
the Army school, the cadet. I mean, so the officer's

00:44:55.500 --> 00:44:57.420
training. I don't think he joined as enlisted.

00:44:57.659 --> 00:44:59.920
He went into officer, which means you go to the

00:44:59.920 --> 00:45:05.320
Army college or whatever that is. So apparently

00:45:05.320 --> 00:45:08.139
that's worked into some of the songs. You've

00:45:08.139 --> 00:45:09.840
got to really dig for meaning in those Tool songs.

00:45:10.340 --> 00:45:13.739
Oh, gee. Well, the problem is you can find anything

00:45:13.739 --> 00:45:18.840
in it that you want. This is true. On the times

00:45:18.840 --> 00:45:21.059
I've tried writing lyrics for songs, I tried

00:45:21.059 --> 00:45:23.739
to be pretty vague so anybody could read pretty

00:45:23.739 --> 00:45:25.679
much anything they wanted into it. To me, that's

00:45:25.679 --> 00:45:28.440
kind of like a key to success nowadays, especially.

00:45:28.519 --> 00:45:31.940
Make it relatable to a lot of people. Make people

00:45:31.940 --> 00:45:35.179
make what they want it to be. Yeah. All right,

00:45:35.199 --> 00:45:38.400
next up, Jimi Hendrix. It was in the Army. I

00:45:38.400 --> 00:45:40.900
think it was stationed in Germany. Really? Yeah.

00:45:41.599 --> 00:45:46.309
Okay. Ice tea. He served four years in the Army

00:45:46.309 --> 00:45:48.429
starting in 1977. Actually, I knew that about

00:45:48.429 --> 00:45:51.409
Ice -T. And he joined because it was a good way

00:45:51.409 --> 00:45:53.670
to support his family. And his family was hurt.

00:45:53.769 --> 00:45:56.909
I like Ice -T a lot, too. Talk about a very honest

00:45:56.909 --> 00:45:59.190
individual. I wish he would quit doing those

00:45:59.190 --> 00:46:01.469
commercials for that extended car warranty. Yes.

00:46:01.469 --> 00:46:03.690
Because they are a really horrible and corrupt

00:46:03.690 --> 00:46:06.670
business. Yeah, allegedly. Well, they've already

00:46:06.670 --> 00:46:09.230
been sued and lost. Yes. So, yeah, their own

00:46:09.230 --> 00:46:11.449
record as being corrupt and evil. Yeah, yeah.

00:46:11.710 --> 00:46:14.429
All right, Elvis Presley in the Army. That was

00:46:14.429 --> 00:46:17.329
a very famous thing. Yeah, yeah. And then he

00:46:17.329 --> 00:46:19.250
had to pretty much reinvent his career when he

00:46:19.250 --> 00:46:23.710
got out. Yeah. Here's a surprising one. Fred

00:46:23.710 --> 00:46:26.469
Durst from Wimbledon. That's very surprising.

00:46:26.510 --> 00:46:31.909
He was in the Navy. Ray Manzarek, keyboard player

00:46:31.909 --> 00:46:34.010
for the Doors. I actually knew that one. He's

00:46:34.010 --> 00:46:37.789
an Army guy. Yeah. Actually, I think his dad

00:46:37.789 --> 00:46:42.309
was in security and or intelligence. Intelligence,

00:46:42.429 --> 00:46:46.699
yeah, I believe so. Phil Labonte from All That

00:46:46.699 --> 00:46:50.699
Remains was a Marine. Oh, okay. I'm not that

00:46:50.699 --> 00:46:54.500
familiar with All That Remains, but okay. John

00:46:54.500 --> 00:46:57.179
Fogarty from Creighton's Clearwater Revival.

00:46:57.639 --> 00:47:00.280
To avoid the draft, he joined the Army Reserve.

00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:03.780
And I'd forgotten that you could do that. He

00:47:03.780 --> 00:47:06.679
actually got his draft notice and then went down

00:47:06.679 --> 00:47:09.760
and volunteered for the Army Reserve, which supersedes

00:47:09.760 --> 00:47:12.670
your draft notice. And he didn't have to go overseas.

00:47:13.250 --> 00:47:18.510
Jason Everman, who played guitar for Nirvana

00:47:18.510 --> 00:47:21.050
until he got fired, and for Soundgarden until

00:47:21.050 --> 00:47:25.409
he got fired, then joined the Army. Special Forces,

00:47:25.449 --> 00:47:29.889
in fact. He played for Nirvana and Soundgarden.

00:47:31.070 --> 00:47:34.409
And he couldn't get along with either band. Was

00:47:34.409 --> 00:47:37.780
this in place of Kurt Cobain? No, it was In Addition.

00:47:37.920 --> 00:47:40.800
In Addition? Yeah. And Soundgarden, in addition

00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.440
to Chris Cornell, what about Kim Thayil? Yeah.

00:47:44.079 --> 00:47:46.059
At that point, I think Chris wasn't playing guitar

00:47:46.059 --> 00:47:49.599
much. Okay. But yeah, he was second guitar player

00:47:49.599 --> 00:47:51.960
for both of those bands. Wow. And they just really

00:47:51.960 --> 00:47:53.539
couldn't get along with him and booted him out.

00:47:53.699 --> 00:47:56.760
Oh, okay. And he says, at that point, he's like,

00:47:56.900 --> 00:47:59.880
you know what? Military sounds like a really

00:47:59.880 --> 00:48:02.400
freaking good idea. And to this day, he's like,

00:48:02.440 --> 00:48:04.559
it's the best thing I ever did. Wow. Very good.

00:48:05.610 --> 00:48:08.690
B .B. King, legendary blues guitarist, was in

00:48:08.690 --> 00:48:13.829
the Army. Adrian Estrella from the band Assuming

00:48:13.829 --> 00:48:17.610
We Survive, he joined the Army to escape an abusive

00:48:17.610 --> 00:48:20.929
home life. Oh, wow. That's a good reason. Yeah,

00:48:20.929 --> 00:48:23.789
it is. I seriously considered joining the military

00:48:23.789 --> 00:48:26.210
out of high school for just that reason. Wow.

00:48:26.570 --> 00:48:28.550
But I didn't want to cut my hair. So that's more

00:48:28.550 --> 00:48:31.909
prominent than people think. Yeah, yeah. I was

00:48:31.909 --> 00:48:35.800
looking at the Air Force hard. and I just didn't

00:48:35.800 --> 00:48:38.340
want to cut my hair. I got it. I didn't either.

00:48:38.400 --> 00:48:42.460
I thought about that too. Johnny Cash joined

00:48:42.460 --> 00:48:46.760
the Air Force. I knew that. Then there's all

00:48:46.760 --> 00:48:49.300
those rumors about he hates veterans, and I'm

00:48:49.300 --> 00:48:53.360
like thinking he was one. Yeah. He doesn't hate

00:48:53.360 --> 00:48:55.760
veterans. He hates a lot of military policy.

00:48:56.099 --> 00:48:58.340
Yes. And that's a very different thing. Very

00:48:58.340 --> 00:49:02.300
different. Jerry Garcia, Mr. Grateful Dead himself.

00:49:02.320 --> 00:49:07.019
Oh, really? Army. No shit. He was forced into

00:49:07.019 --> 00:49:09.360
it as punishment for stealing his mom's car.

00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.119
The judge said, join the army, young man, or

00:49:12.119 --> 00:49:14.760
go to prison. So he joined the army. That's why

00:49:14.760 --> 00:49:17.679
he joined the army. And he was discharged about

00:49:17.679 --> 00:49:20.139
a year later because he just simply would not

00:49:20.139 --> 00:49:24.659
participate in anything. Like, 10 mile hike,

00:49:24.699 --> 00:49:26.699
he'd just sit there. He'd lay there. He wouldn't

00:49:26.699 --> 00:49:29.630
do anything. And all they could do was punish

00:49:29.630 --> 00:49:32.530
him, drag him off the stockade, and make him

00:49:32.530 --> 00:49:34.849
sit there. Because usually they punish you with

00:49:34.849 --> 00:49:37.449
latrine duty, KP duty, whatever. He just wouldn't

00:49:37.449 --> 00:49:39.190
do anything. He'd just sit there and do nothing.

00:49:39.889 --> 00:49:43.610
That's just like the lump. That's funny. I love

00:49:43.610 --> 00:49:44.929
that strategy. And after a year, the Army said,

00:49:45.050 --> 00:49:46.989
we can't do anything to this guy. Just get him

00:49:46.989 --> 00:49:48.829
out. I love that strategy, though. Isn't it?

00:49:48.969 --> 00:49:52.510
The lump strategy. Yep. I'd rather spend my time

00:49:52.510 --> 00:49:54.869
locked up in a cell than do what you tell me.

00:49:54.929 --> 00:49:57.289
Yeah. So just go ahead and get over with now.

00:49:59.699 --> 00:50:03.059
Wow. Chris Henderson from Three Doors Down, Navy.

00:50:03.760 --> 00:50:06.579
Oh, wow. He said it was always a childhood dream,

00:50:06.679 --> 00:50:09.179
and his family has a history of serving in the

00:50:09.179 --> 00:50:11.920
Navy. So it was like I was always going to join

00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.699
the Navy. The band and the music is great, but

00:50:15.699 --> 00:50:21.099
I was always going to join the Navy. Okay. Artemis

00:50:21.099 --> 00:50:24.179
Pyle, the drummer for Skinnerd. Their original

00:50:24.179 --> 00:50:26.739
drummer they replaced because he couldn't handle

00:50:26.739 --> 00:50:29.719
the more complex songwriting that they were doing.

00:50:29.800 --> 00:50:32.320
This is Gomer's brother. Yes, Gomer's brother.

00:50:33.039 --> 00:50:36.760
He joined the Marines and achieved the rank of

00:50:36.760 --> 00:50:39.260
sergeant before being honorably discharged in

00:50:39.260 --> 00:50:43.300
71. And then he joined Skinnerd. Actually, I

00:50:43.300 --> 00:50:45.119
think I knew that one too. I'd forgotten about

00:50:45.119 --> 00:50:47.599
it, yeah. That's pretty amazing that he was in

00:50:47.599 --> 00:50:50.340
the Marines, a sergeant in the Marines, and still

00:50:50.340 --> 00:50:54.139
was able to get out in 1971. And also Gomer's

00:50:54.139 --> 00:50:55.079
brother, too. Things were still pretty hot in

00:50:55.079 --> 00:50:58.639
1971. Yeah. And that was Gomer's brother, too.

00:50:58.639 --> 00:51:00.360
That was Gomer's brother, yeah. Gomer didn't

00:51:00.360 --> 00:51:05.960
do so well in the Marines. And then the last

00:51:05.960 --> 00:51:08.360
one I have is Toy Caldwell, who played guitar

00:51:08.360 --> 00:51:10.679
for the Marshall Tucker Band. Okay. Can't you

00:51:10.679 --> 00:51:16.289
see? Yep. Pretty Little Love Song. He was in

00:51:16.289 --> 00:51:18.550
the Marines and actually got wounded in Vietnam.

00:51:19.010 --> 00:51:22.949
Oh, wow. Before being in the band. Okay, so you

00:51:22.949 --> 00:51:25.329
didn't have Springsteen or Hagar. Didn't have

00:51:25.329 --> 00:51:27.429
Springsteen or Hagar. Okay, well, that's all

00:51:27.429 --> 00:51:30.530
right. All right, well, they're both veterans,

00:51:30.610 --> 00:51:33.550
so we just gave them their kudos there. Do you

00:51:33.550 --> 00:51:35.369
want to do some bullet points? Let's do some

00:51:35.369 --> 00:51:39.349
bullet points. Okay. Would you, personally, would

00:51:39.349 --> 00:51:43.420
you buy Ozzy's DNA in a can? There was 10 sold,

00:51:43.659 --> 00:51:47.840
we spit in a can, and it was sealed. Wow. And

00:51:47.840 --> 00:51:50.300
this is for clothing purposes later on in life.

00:51:51.679 --> 00:51:55.059
I don't know that I would be comfortable with

00:51:55.059 --> 00:51:57.280
that level of responsibility, so I'm going to

00:51:57.280 --> 00:52:01.519
say no. I don't think I want to have Ozzy's DNA

00:52:01.519 --> 00:52:03.699
on hand because somebody could either come to

00:52:03.699 --> 00:52:06.699
steal it or it could spontaneously erupt into

00:52:06.699 --> 00:52:08.920
a brand new Ozzy, and then I've got Ozzy in my

00:52:08.920 --> 00:52:11.940
house. Well, I'm going to put in the talk his

00:52:11.940 --> 00:52:14.179
chief studio, and if he does come, if he does

00:52:14.179 --> 00:52:16.280
resurrect, then he's right there. You can interview

00:52:16.280 --> 00:52:18.340
him right off the bat. Yeah, yeah. So how's the

00:52:18.340 --> 00:52:20.599
afterlife? I think I'm just a little too scared

00:52:20.599 --> 00:52:23.880
of being that close to Ozzy. Yeah. Yeah. I can

00:52:23.880 --> 00:52:25.940
see that. I can see that. He's an intimidating

00:52:25.940 --> 00:52:28.699
presence, even in death. Yeah, yeah. Even in

00:52:28.699 --> 00:52:31.900
death, he's intimidating. Even though I met him

00:52:31.900 --> 00:52:33.920
a couple of times and he's anything but. Yeah,

00:52:33.960 --> 00:52:36.519
I imagine he's a pretty swell guy. Yeah, very

00:52:36.519 --> 00:52:38.980
much so. You can just tell by his reaction to

00:52:38.980 --> 00:52:41.719
you. Yeah, but just crazy things happen in his

00:52:41.719 --> 00:52:44.860
vicinity. Yeah, yeah. Well, back then that would

00:52:44.860 --> 00:52:46.300
have been fine. When I met him, I'd be like,

00:52:46.420 --> 00:52:49.820
all right, let me tag along. All right, nowadays

00:52:49.820 --> 00:52:53.030
it's like... I might break my leg or something,

00:52:53.150 --> 00:52:54.710
so I think I'm going to refrain from that because

00:52:54.710 --> 00:52:56.429
that would make me miss work. I'm going to watch

00:52:56.429 --> 00:52:58.789
you from over here. How's that? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:58.949 --> 00:53:01.150
If you need anything, let me know. I've got water,

00:53:01.329 --> 00:53:06.150
a couple of sodas. All right. Okay, well, erase

00:53:06.150 --> 00:53:08.309
this question. If so, what would your top dollar

00:53:08.309 --> 00:53:12.110
be? I would pay $200 and no more. Yeah. If I

00:53:12.110 --> 00:53:18.199
were going to do that, I'd go $500. I'd go $500,

00:53:18.280 --> 00:53:20.119
yeah. Yeah, you know what? I think I'd go $500

00:53:20.119 --> 00:53:22.800
also. I would have to outbid some people. You

00:53:22.800 --> 00:53:24.920
know there'd be resale, definitely resale now.

00:53:25.039 --> 00:53:28.800
Oh, hell yeah. And realistically, you could spit

00:53:28.800 --> 00:53:31.739
in about 10 or 20 little cups yourself and sell

00:53:31.739 --> 00:53:35.099
them as the fake Aussie DNA. Well, I was wondering

00:53:35.099 --> 00:53:38.539
if that wasn't done anyhow. That's something

00:53:38.539 --> 00:53:45.719
I learned about in art theft. A lot of times

00:53:45.719 --> 00:53:50.380
a painting would be stolen simply for the purpose

00:53:50.380 --> 00:53:54.099
of creating a number of fakes of it and then

00:53:54.099 --> 00:53:57.039
selling them to collectors as the original. And

00:53:57.039 --> 00:53:59.199
once they figure out it's a fake, what are they

00:53:59.199 --> 00:54:01.480
going to do? Call the police? No, they're not.

00:54:02.579 --> 00:54:07.500
So that is an actual business plan for criminals.

00:54:07.659 --> 00:54:11.610
Steal the artwork. copy it about 15 or 20 times,

00:54:11.730 --> 00:54:13.909
sell all those as original, and you keep the

00:54:13.909 --> 00:54:16.010
original yourself. It's been done many, many

00:54:16.010 --> 00:54:18.429
times over. Yeah, there's some pretty famous

00:54:18.429 --> 00:54:21.469
art museums around the world who've been embarrassed

00:54:21.469 --> 00:54:23.469
to learn that something they've been displaying

00:54:23.469 --> 00:54:27.090
for years and years is a fake. I know. Oops.

00:54:29.289 --> 00:54:34.690
How about this one? What if David Lee Roth finishes

00:54:34.690 --> 00:54:39.210
tour? You know Thimble Penis? I'm going to say

00:54:39.210 --> 00:54:41.590
yeah because he could not sound worse and he's

00:54:41.590 --> 00:54:44.610
still playing. You know, that's true. And I think

00:54:44.610 --> 00:54:48.190
people are going to go ahead and spend to go

00:54:48.190 --> 00:54:50.110
ahead and see him because they're still thinking,

00:54:50.190 --> 00:54:52.630
in their head they're thinking the fantasy David

00:54:52.630 --> 00:54:57.670
Lee Roth from 1976 and 77 and 78. And they look

00:54:57.670 --> 00:54:58.809
at the guy on stage and they're like, that's

00:54:58.809 --> 00:55:02.789
still the same guy. After this tour, I think

00:55:02.789 --> 00:55:05.369
he's done. But, yeah, I think he's going to manage

00:55:05.369 --> 00:55:07.150
to scrape through the tour. You know, the only

00:55:07.150 --> 00:55:09.530
reason I think that he would cancel is if people

00:55:09.530 --> 00:55:11.389
just quit buying tickets. But I think people

00:55:11.389 --> 00:55:12.670
are going to buy the tickets. And I don't even

00:55:12.670 --> 00:55:16.329
think this tour is about money. Maybe not. Maybe

00:55:16.329 --> 00:55:17.989
he just wants the attention. I think he wants

00:55:17.989 --> 00:55:21.769
the attention. Yeah. I mean, he can't be making

00:55:21.769 --> 00:55:24.730
that much more. Happy little dogs. Yeah, they

00:55:24.730 --> 00:55:30.150
are. Little French bulldogs, two of them. He

00:55:30.150 --> 00:55:34.219
obviously has no sense of... shame or self -consciousness.

00:55:34.420 --> 00:55:37.920
No, no. If he did, he wouldn't be wearing those

00:55:37.920 --> 00:55:42.159
fucking tight outfits. And he's constantly chewing

00:55:42.159 --> 00:55:44.480
that great big giant wad of gum in his mouth.

00:55:44.599 --> 00:55:46.679
Yes. Because otherwise his mouth will dry up

00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:50.539
and he won't be able to sing. Yeah. Kind of like

00:55:50.539 --> 00:55:56.920
his penis. Yeah. Okay. Will Eddie Van Halen unfinished

00:55:56.920 --> 00:56:00.880
music ever be released? Yes. His brother's pushing

00:56:00.880 --> 00:56:03.760
it, so I say no. Yeah, I would say yes. His brother's

00:56:03.760 --> 00:56:05.659
not doing it for money either. His brother wants

00:56:05.659 --> 00:56:08.099
this material released. He likes it and thinks

00:56:08.099 --> 00:56:11.780
it's good. It would be probably not going to

00:56:11.780 --> 00:56:13.599
happen, but it would be interesting to see his

00:56:13.599 --> 00:56:16.079
ex -wife, Valerie Bertinelli, get involved with

00:56:16.079 --> 00:56:19.639
his estate because she loved Eddie to the end.

00:56:19.679 --> 00:56:21.840
She just couldn't live with him anymore because

00:56:21.840 --> 00:56:25.559
he was self -destructive and harmful and that

00:56:25.559 --> 00:56:28.059
stuff. As a matter of fact, Eddie would... Oh,

00:56:28.079 --> 00:56:29.820
go ahead. I was going to say she would have...

00:56:30.219 --> 00:56:37.159
A very compassionate and positive effect on determining

00:56:37.159 --> 00:56:39.820
what should be released and in what form. I agree.

00:56:39.960 --> 00:56:42.079
I mean, in all actuality, when he died, they

00:56:42.079 --> 00:56:46.139
should have still been married because his estranged

00:56:46.139 --> 00:56:49.300
now widow, they weren't even living together.

00:56:49.780 --> 00:56:53.059
And Valerie Bertinelli was coming over all the

00:56:53.059 --> 00:56:56.619
time. And they were best friends. And like you

00:56:56.619 --> 00:56:58.440
said, they would have still been together, but

00:56:58.440 --> 00:57:01.179
Eddie... couldn't not hold it together long enough

00:57:01.179 --> 00:57:04.440
to keep that going on. And in fact, Valerie did

00:57:04.440 --> 00:57:08.079
spend a lot of time with Eddie in the final weeks

00:57:08.079 --> 00:57:10.500
and months of his life, and that pretty much

00:57:10.500 --> 00:57:12.900
wrecked Valerie's marriage. Yes. The guy realized,

00:57:13.000 --> 00:57:14.500
like, you're never going to love me the way you

00:57:14.500 --> 00:57:17.559
love him, so I'm out. I want to find somebody

00:57:17.559 --> 00:57:19.960
who's that devoted to me, because you aren't.

00:57:20.300 --> 00:57:22.820
Yes. And then at that point, he was going to

00:57:22.820 --> 00:57:25.300
have to compete with a ghost. Yes. That sucks.

00:57:25.900 --> 00:57:28.159
Yeah. Yeah, there's no way to compete with a

00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:31.179
ghost. Condom coming off. Uh -oh. There we go.

00:57:31.599 --> 00:57:33.920
Wind has died down. We just get a little brighter,

00:57:34.019 --> 00:57:36.300
crisper sound this way. Yeah, I like it better.

00:57:36.360 --> 00:57:39.079
You can hear it. You can hear all the birds chirping

00:57:39.079 --> 00:57:42.000
a little better, too. That's good. Yeah. Maybe.

00:57:43.460 --> 00:57:46.440
How about this? Will Vince Neal still be fronting

00:57:46.440 --> 00:57:49.940
any band in two years? No. Nope. I think once

00:57:49.940 --> 00:57:52.539
Motley Crue's done with him, all he can do is

00:57:52.539 --> 00:57:57.480
like... books videos and maybe like a tour a

00:57:57.480 --> 00:58:01.579
speaking tour to talk about his life but as a

00:58:01.579 --> 00:58:04.980
performer on stage i i don't think he should

00:58:04.980 --> 00:58:09.480
be there now no let alone again with anyone else

00:58:09.480 --> 00:58:12.500
but this goes back to the american public and

00:58:12.500 --> 00:58:14.900
their willingness to part with money for no apparent

00:58:14.900 --> 00:58:18.179
reason yeah yeah yeah Nostalgia, I guess, is

00:58:18.179 --> 00:58:20.519
a very powerful motivator. I've done that. I

00:58:20.519 --> 00:58:22.880
mean, I went and watched Wasp two last times.

00:58:23.000 --> 00:58:26.539
Yeah. And I knew that Blackie Wallace isn't that

00:58:26.539 --> 00:58:29.219
dynamic in concert anymore. It's only one out

00:58:29.219 --> 00:58:31.579
of the band that I did know. Yeah. But I still

00:58:31.579 --> 00:58:34.760
went just because one last time. But he wasn't

00:58:34.760 --> 00:58:38.300
horrible either. No, no. David Lee Roth is horrible.

00:58:38.500 --> 00:58:40.719
Yeah. Vince Neil is horrible. Horrible, yeah.

00:58:41.280 --> 00:58:43.320
Blackie could still sing well enough to pull

00:58:43.320 --> 00:58:46.289
it off. And I know he uses backing tracks, and

00:58:46.289 --> 00:58:48.929
he has a defense for it. He said he doesn't have

00:58:48.929 --> 00:58:51.929
a personnel to do everything live. Yeah. So,

00:58:51.989 --> 00:58:55.610
okay, I get it. ZZ Top is using backing tracks

00:58:55.610 --> 00:58:58.090
in their live performances. They've just recently

00:58:58.090 --> 00:59:01.809
been caught. It's like, it's so stupid. If you're

00:59:01.809 --> 00:59:04.329
going to do it, admit it. Nobody cares. Yeah,

00:59:04.349 --> 00:59:06.409
nobody gives a shit. Nobody cares. Just say,

00:59:06.489 --> 00:59:08.309
yeah, we're using backing tracks, you know, that

00:59:08.309 --> 00:59:10.530
give you the full sound you want in a live performance.

00:59:10.769 --> 00:59:13.489
I mean, it's like a penis pump. What you have

00:59:13.489 --> 00:59:17.849
may work, but if you can enhance it. So, yeah,

00:59:17.929 --> 00:59:22.110
it's absolutely accepted and reasonable to use

00:59:22.110 --> 00:59:24.730
backing tracks now. What's not acceptable and

00:59:24.730 --> 00:59:26.750
stupid is to hide it and pretend you're not.

00:59:26.750 --> 00:59:28.530
And to hide it like Motley Crue. And then lie

00:59:28.530 --> 00:59:32.170
about it. Just tell them. There's too many videos

00:59:32.170 --> 00:59:34.650
where the bass keeps playing while Nicky's scratching

00:59:34.650 --> 00:59:37.869
his ass walking off. Yeah, yeah. And you hear

00:59:37.869 --> 00:59:41.150
the drums start playing. Tommy's standing next

00:59:41.150 --> 00:59:43.210
to his drums while the drum tech fixes something.

00:59:43.510 --> 00:59:47.369
Yeah, and it's like, er... Oops! Yeah. Their

00:59:47.369 --> 00:59:49.849
hope is their audience that was dumb enough to

00:59:49.849 --> 00:59:53.190
buy their tickets are probably fucked up. And

00:59:53.190 --> 00:59:55.449
then on the other hand, people who bought the

00:59:55.449 --> 00:59:57.230
ticket and went to the show don't want to admit

00:59:57.230 --> 00:59:59.610
that they were taken. So they'll just either

00:59:59.610 --> 01:00:02.050
refuse to believe it or make an excuse for it.

01:00:02.349 --> 01:00:05.389
Well, nobody's like they were then. I can't jump

01:00:05.389 --> 01:00:08.349
over a hurdle like when I was 19. But inside

01:00:08.349 --> 01:00:10.750
they're saying, you lied to me, you fooled me,

01:00:10.809 --> 01:00:13.369
you stole my money. That's why they get so angry

01:00:13.369 --> 01:00:15.130
and wave their tiny little fists all the time.

01:00:17.230 --> 01:00:23.989
Will concert ticket prices continue to escalate

01:00:23.989 --> 01:00:26.150
or will they eventually price themselves out

01:00:26.150 --> 01:00:30.760
of the business? Both. I think it's going to

01:00:30.760 --> 01:00:34.219
continue to rise and escalate. It's business

01:00:34.219 --> 01:00:37.500
101. Don't charge what you think people will

01:00:37.500 --> 01:00:41.079
pay. Charge the maximum you can and wait until

01:00:41.079 --> 01:00:42.920
they stop buying it and then bring the price

01:00:42.920 --> 01:00:45.659
back a little bit. But if you're selling something

01:00:45.659 --> 01:00:49.860
for $50 and somebody would have paid $250, you've

01:00:49.860 --> 01:00:54.820
lost $200. So it's in everybody's interest who's

01:00:54.820 --> 01:00:59.000
selling. to find the exact highest amount that

01:00:59.000 --> 01:01:01.400
people were willing to pay. And that's how come

01:01:01.400 --> 01:01:04.039
dynamic pricing is like it is. It's like, okay,

01:01:04.099 --> 01:01:06.960
right now we can't do that because we're not

01:01:06.960 --> 01:01:10.460
getting closer to the venue. Yeah. A little bit

01:01:10.460 --> 01:01:12.420
closer, there may be something else going on

01:01:12.420 --> 01:01:14.280
that people are saving their money for or something

01:01:14.280 --> 01:01:17.099
else, something beyond their control. Then they're

01:01:17.099 --> 01:01:19.360
like, all right, we cannot do the dynamic pricing

01:01:19.360 --> 01:01:21.159
like we wanted to. Now we've got to lower it.

01:01:21.599 --> 01:01:24.139
But it's really easy for the big band, the larger

01:01:24.139 --> 01:01:28.239
acts like the Eagles. There's enough people who

01:01:28.239 --> 01:01:31.280
would pay $3 ,000 a seat that they can charge

01:01:31.280 --> 01:01:33.739
that and still sell out. Yes. And they don't

01:01:33.739 --> 01:01:35.980
care that people like us don't get in. They don't

01:01:35.980 --> 01:01:39.599
care. Right. That's why I'll never go see them,

01:01:39.599 --> 01:01:44.500
even for free. I hate them. I have no idea. Delta

01:01:44.500 --> 01:01:48.599
Airlines has said by the end of the year, they're

01:01:48.599 --> 01:01:50.650
going to be rolling out... personal pricing,

01:01:50.769 --> 01:01:53.590
which is surveillance pricing. They're going

01:01:53.590 --> 01:01:55.449
to determine how's the most you're willing to

01:01:55.449 --> 01:01:57.730
pay and charge you back. So everybody who calls

01:01:57.730 --> 01:02:00.329
up Delta for a ticket is going to get a different

01:02:00.329 --> 01:02:03.230
price. Oh, fuck them. I guess I'm not dealing

01:02:03.230 --> 01:02:05.829
with them. And they say we're going ahead with

01:02:05.829 --> 01:02:08.349
it. By the end of the year, we expect about 30

01:02:08.349 --> 01:02:10.650
% of our ticket sales to be under the personal

01:02:10.650 --> 01:02:12.869
pricing, and eventually it's going to be 100%.

01:02:12.869 --> 01:02:16.469
They can fly without me. As a matter of fact,

01:02:16.469 --> 01:02:18.550
if all the other ones follow suit, then I'm going

01:02:18.550 --> 01:02:21.389
to start driving. And really, I don't see how

01:02:21.389 --> 01:02:23.849
it could possibly work because the first time

01:02:23.849 --> 01:02:27.769
their surveillance pricing charges a person of

01:02:27.769 --> 01:02:30.690
color more than a white person, discrimination

01:02:30.690 --> 01:02:34.210
lawsuit. Oh, I can't. I can't wait for that one.

01:02:34.349 --> 01:02:37.050
The first time they charge a single mother more

01:02:37.050 --> 01:02:40.570
than a man. discrimination lawsuit you know even

01:02:40.570 --> 01:02:43.269
if a man is only making 15 grand a year and the

01:02:43.269 --> 01:02:46.329
single mom is making 2 .3 million a year it's

01:02:46.329 --> 01:02:48.429
still going to be discriminated it's just not

01:02:48.429 --> 01:02:51.070
going to work every news agency around would

01:02:51.070 --> 01:02:54.070
be jumping over themselves to present that to

01:02:54.070 --> 01:02:56.710
the public yeah i mean by its very definition

01:02:56.710 --> 01:02:59.869
it's discriminatory pricing yes we are going

01:02:59.869 --> 01:03:02.809
to judge you as an individual person but also

01:03:02.809 --> 01:03:05.889
as part of this group who makes this amount of

01:03:05.889 --> 01:03:07.750
money and does these kind of things. And we think

01:03:07.750 --> 01:03:11.349
this is what you can afford. I mean, did the

01:03:11.349 --> 01:03:15.389
CEO of Carnival jump over there? I guess so.

01:03:17.429 --> 01:03:20.750
Okay, or is stupid ideas... No, no, no. Stupid

01:03:20.750 --> 01:03:24.809
ideas are normal to that elk of a person. As

01:03:24.809 --> 01:03:26.289
long as we're talking about airlines, do you

01:03:26.289 --> 01:03:28.030
want to hear about the British Airways flight

01:03:28.030 --> 01:03:30.269
attendant who slapped somebody? Yeah, why not?

01:03:30.530 --> 01:03:32.829
Okay, this was recently. It was a British Airways

01:03:32.829 --> 01:03:36.880
flight. I can't remember from where to where.

01:03:38.659 --> 01:03:41.920
It was a man and a woman, married couple, and

01:03:41.920 --> 01:03:45.739
their two little boys, got on the plane. The

01:03:45.739 --> 01:03:48.900
man sitting in the aisle seat with his boy beside

01:03:48.900 --> 01:03:51.360
him, and his wife sitting directly behind him

01:03:51.360 --> 01:03:55.019
with the boy beside her. It's also important

01:03:55.019 --> 01:03:57.880
in the story to note that this man looked Middle

01:03:57.880 --> 01:04:00.519
Eastern. I don't know, Persia. He didn't look

01:04:00.519 --> 01:04:04.429
Indian, necessarily. Definitely a person of color.

01:04:04.670 --> 01:04:07.469
Okay. So the plane took off, and they're starting

01:04:07.469 --> 01:04:09.989
to fly, and he asks the flight attendant for

01:04:09.989 --> 01:04:14.250
some water for his son. And she brusquely and

01:04:14.250 --> 01:04:16.309
rudely tells him, we're not serving yet, just

01:04:16.309 --> 01:04:20.130
wait. And he asks a few more times, and she blows

01:04:20.130 --> 01:04:24.309
him off and starts ignoring him. And some of

01:04:24.309 --> 01:04:26.030
the other flight attendants come up and say,

01:04:26.090 --> 01:04:28.789
we're sorry about her and her attitude. So they

01:04:28.789 --> 01:04:32.619
already knew that she was a hothead. Later in

01:04:32.619 --> 01:04:34.820
the flight, as the drinks are starting to get

01:04:34.820 --> 01:04:37.420
served and they're ignoring him and bypassing

01:04:37.420 --> 01:04:41.179
him, he gets pissed and he gets up with the water

01:04:41.179 --> 01:04:43.820
bottle and starts walking towards where the water

01:04:43.820 --> 01:04:46.559
is to get the water himself. This flight attendant

01:04:46.559 --> 01:04:49.519
yells at him, You're not supposed to be out of

01:04:49.519 --> 01:04:51.719
your seat. You go back and sit down. You need

01:04:51.719 --> 01:04:57.039
to sit. So he goes back to his seat and sits

01:04:57.039 --> 01:05:00.679
down, angry. And that flight attendant walks

01:05:00.679 --> 01:05:03.619
by, bends down and whispers what he described,

01:05:03.840 --> 01:05:07.099
said is the ugliest and most vile racial slur

01:05:07.099 --> 01:05:09.400
he's ever heard in his life. He wouldn't say

01:05:09.400 --> 01:05:12.320
what it was, but he said she bent down and whispered

01:05:12.320 --> 01:05:14.659
that in his ear and then stood up smiling and

01:05:14.659 --> 01:05:17.960
walked on. He got angry and stood up to confront

01:05:17.960 --> 01:05:21.420
her and said, you can't talk to me like that.

01:05:21.500 --> 01:05:23.039
She turned around and slapped him right in the

01:05:23.039 --> 01:05:25.619
face in front of the whole plane load of people.

01:05:26.079 --> 01:05:28.019
In front of his wife, in front of his little

01:05:28.019 --> 01:05:32.260
boys. Oh, boy. Okay, if you didn't believe that

01:05:32.260 --> 01:05:35.559
she did that at first, you can definitely believe

01:05:35.559 --> 01:05:39.179
it after the slap. Yep. They're paying that guy

01:05:39.179 --> 01:05:43.840
a lot of money, and deservingly so. Yeah. They

01:05:43.840 --> 01:05:46.039
said the very next thing that happened was every

01:05:46.039 --> 01:05:48.840
other flight attendant converged, grabbed that

01:05:48.840 --> 01:05:50.900
woman, took her to the back, stuck her in her

01:05:50.900 --> 01:05:52.719
jump seat, put the seatbelt on her, and said,

01:05:52.780 --> 01:05:55.559
don't move for the rest of the flight. You're

01:05:55.559 --> 01:05:58.019
not working anymore. You sit here. Yeah, good.

01:05:58.099 --> 01:06:04.039
And she did. Good. And the guy wasn't planning

01:06:04.039 --> 01:06:07.059
to sue, but he contacted British Airways and

01:06:07.059 --> 01:06:08.860
explained what had happened. You know what they

01:06:08.860 --> 01:06:12.559
offered him? What? A $250 gift card. Oh, no.

01:06:12.920 --> 01:06:17.820
No. No. And when he said, that's insulting, they

01:06:17.820 --> 01:06:21.380
upped it to $1 ,000 of... credit towards his

01:06:21.380 --> 01:06:24.800
next airplane purchase no so he went out and

01:06:24.800 --> 01:06:27.980
got a lawyer good and the lawyer says you ruined

01:06:27.980 --> 01:06:30.980
his whole day so what we want is one day of your

01:06:30.980 --> 01:06:34.199
gross profits i love that and i hope he gets

01:06:34.199 --> 01:06:36.780
it i think he will and i hope that flight attendant

01:06:36.780 --> 01:06:39.920
never leaves the ground again i wouldn't see

01:06:39.920 --> 01:06:43.679
how if she does then they need to report that

01:06:43.679 --> 01:06:46.579
so people can quit going to british airways Who's

01:06:46.579 --> 01:06:49.079
the crazy person who thinks they can get away

01:06:49.079 --> 01:06:52.119
with crap like this? That's the thing that gets

01:06:52.119 --> 01:06:55.940
me. In Britain, they still have a lot of people

01:06:55.940 --> 01:06:59.699
who are rigidly stuck in the class system. And

01:06:59.699 --> 01:07:03.019
to a lot of British people, people of color are

01:07:03.019 --> 01:07:05.980
from the colonies and they are less than. And

01:07:05.980 --> 01:07:08.159
that's just the way they live their lives and

01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:10.119
they will never change. And I guess this woman

01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:12.119
was one of those people. Kind of sounds like

01:07:12.119 --> 01:07:15.510
it, doesn't it? Yeah. She obviously was not treating

01:07:15.510 --> 01:07:17.929
him as a paying customer, wasn't even treating

01:07:17.929 --> 01:07:20.429
him as a fellow human being. No, she's treating

01:07:20.429 --> 01:07:24.389
him like just a... Like a disobedient dog. Yeah,

01:07:24.389 --> 01:07:27.510
yeah, like, no, you go back. You're bad. Yeah.

01:07:27.550 --> 01:07:31.510
Yeah, well, I hope he gets what he's sued for.

01:07:31.650 --> 01:07:34.690
Yeah. And British Airways insulting him like

01:07:34.690 --> 01:07:36.929
that, they deserve it now. Yeah, yeah. Well,

01:07:37.050 --> 01:07:39.309
and also for having, I'm sure that woman's had

01:07:39.309 --> 01:07:41.809
other complaints. I imagine. So every other flight

01:07:41.809 --> 01:07:43.769
attendant knew that she was a problem because

01:07:43.769 --> 01:07:46.329
they immediately went and got her, and they were

01:07:46.329 --> 01:07:48.630
already apologizing to the guy before the slaps,

01:07:48.630 --> 01:07:51.110
like, yeah, that's just kind of how she is. I'm

01:07:51.110 --> 01:07:55.590
sorry about her. Wow. So whoever kept her on

01:07:55.590 --> 01:07:57.829
and didn't suspend her, didn't fire her, they're

01:07:57.829 --> 01:08:00.570
gone too. Yeah. There's going to be a number

01:08:00.570 --> 01:08:02.650
of people who are losing their jobs over this.

01:08:03.349 --> 01:08:06.789
Deservingly so. I think so, yeah. Of course,

01:08:06.789 --> 01:08:09.789
not as bad as Delta, who had a pilot that was

01:08:09.789 --> 01:08:14.010
arrested. onboard the plane when they found child

01:08:14.010 --> 01:08:16.329
pornography on his devices oh yeah yeah yeah

01:08:16.329 --> 01:08:19.250
and another delta pilot who was boarding the

01:08:19.250 --> 01:08:22.529
plane to fly was given a breathalyzer test and

01:08:22.529 --> 01:08:26.569
was drunk off his ass allegedly allegedly good

01:08:26.569 --> 01:08:29.989
good job delta yeah you go with that personalized

01:08:29.989 --> 01:08:33.890
pricing plan i haven't liked delta i haven't

01:08:33.890 --> 01:08:36.270
liked delta since they started making every flight

01:08:36.270 --> 01:08:38.909
you get on in kansas city go through atlanta

01:08:38.909 --> 01:08:42.210
yeah i'm not doing it It's their big hub, and

01:08:42.210 --> 01:08:44.270
everyone has to go there. Oh, they love it. They

01:08:44.270 --> 01:08:46.050
love putting you there. And they want to make

01:08:46.050 --> 01:08:47.789
you get off the plane and go spend money in the

01:08:47.789 --> 01:08:49.890
airport. Yep, that's their plan. Yeah. It's like,

01:08:49.909 --> 01:08:52.149
well, you made a three -hour layover. Oh, fuck

01:08:52.149 --> 01:08:54.489
you. A three -hour spendover. I mean layover.

01:08:54.489 --> 01:08:56.829
That's what they want, yeah. I know you can always

01:08:56.829 --> 01:08:59.310
get something to eat and buy a couple of souvenirs,

01:08:59.430 --> 01:09:02.510
and there's always go fuck yourself. Yeah. All

01:09:02.510 --> 01:09:06.289
right. Back to music. All right. What is the

01:09:06.289 --> 01:09:08.729
best concert venue you personally have ever been

01:09:08.729 --> 01:09:16.050
to? I'd say sound -wise, well, I'd say overall

01:09:16.050 --> 01:09:20.189
a Starlight Theater. I really, really like Starlight.

01:09:20.229 --> 01:09:23.170
I love Starlight. It's an outdoor. You know,

01:09:23.170 --> 01:09:25.210
if it's hot, it's kind of miserable. But on a

01:09:25.210 --> 01:09:27.710
nice day, nice weather day, Starlight is just

01:09:27.710 --> 01:09:31.470
gorgeous. It sounds great. I think my second

01:09:31.470 --> 01:09:35.350
would be... Memorial Stadium in Kansas City,

01:09:35.350 --> 01:09:38.310
Kansas. Oh, yeah, Memorial Hall. Memorial Hall,

01:09:38.310 --> 01:09:40.909
I said, yeah. Memorial Hall is definitely up

01:09:40.909 --> 01:09:44.770
there, yeah, and so is Starlight. In Memorial

01:09:44.770 --> 01:09:50.710
Hall, I've seen the fabulous Poodles, Tom Petty,

01:09:50.989 --> 01:09:57.609
Marilyn Manson, Nine Inch Nails. I think that's

01:09:57.609 --> 01:10:00.989
it. Sound was awesome. Sight lines were awesome.

01:10:01.130 --> 01:10:04.130
Getting in and out was awesome. I just love that

01:10:04.130 --> 01:10:12.409
venue. Yeah. Okay. I love, at the time of Swissville,

01:10:12.489 --> 01:10:15.270
announced Black Oak Amphitheater in Lamping,

01:10:15.270 --> 01:10:18.949
Missouri. And not just because the acoustics

01:10:18.949 --> 01:10:22.149
are okay. Yeah. The scenery is beautiful. I mean,

01:10:22.170 --> 01:10:25.329
it's on a huge mountain cliff. Yeah. It's the

01:10:25.329 --> 01:10:30.229
clientele. The clientele making. I think I told

01:10:30.229 --> 01:10:32.880
the famous story about... I'm sitting there,

01:10:32.979 --> 01:10:36.880
Alice in Chains opening up for Ozzy, and I think

01:10:36.880 --> 01:10:38.619
it's probably Man in the Box just hit, and they

01:10:38.619 --> 01:10:42.699
are hotter than hell. And so it started with,

01:10:42.880 --> 01:10:46.899
okay, they didn't do this until Ozzy, okay, but

01:10:46.899 --> 01:10:49.000
everybody's up there. There's like a 50 -foot

01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:50.680
cliff, and they're all up there just jamming.

01:10:50.680 --> 01:10:52.300
I'm like looking up there going, oh, that's cool.

01:10:52.720 --> 01:10:56.460
So Ozzy starts. I see the first one jump off

01:10:56.460 --> 01:11:00.140
of there, and I thought he was dead. Landed on

01:11:00.140 --> 01:11:02.640
his feet, ran into the crowd. Never caught him.

01:11:02.859 --> 01:11:05.800
Second one did it too. Third one, fine. Fourth

01:11:05.800 --> 01:11:09.600
one, no. We left in the ambulance. Fifth one,

01:11:09.640 --> 01:11:11.420
I think, left in the ambulance. Then after that,

01:11:11.420 --> 01:11:13.600
it was a hit or miss until they got some security

01:11:13.600 --> 01:11:19.159
up there to stop them. But it got annoying because

01:11:19.159 --> 01:11:21.819
I couldn't watch Ozzy. It was too exciting to

01:11:21.819 --> 01:11:24.319
turn around and look the other way. I'm going

01:11:24.319 --> 01:11:27.090
to move this a little closer to you. Okay. You

01:11:27.090 --> 01:11:29.069
know, if I'd ever been to Red Rocks in Colorado,

01:11:29.270 --> 01:11:30.609
I probably would have been there. Because it

01:11:30.609 --> 01:11:32.930
looks terrific, but I've never been there. I've

01:11:32.930 --> 01:11:34.850
been to it. I haven't been there during a concert.

01:11:34.970 --> 01:11:37.130
And that's how come I can't include it. But if

01:11:37.130 --> 01:11:39.189
I was, I would guarantee you that would have

01:11:39.189 --> 01:11:41.050
been the best venue ever. And I've heard the

01:11:41.050 --> 01:11:43.409
Hollywood Bowl is really pretty stunning, too.

01:11:43.590 --> 01:11:45.470
I hear that's great, yeah. But I haven't been

01:11:45.470 --> 01:11:49.489
there. Okay. Will there be any Ozzy solo release?

01:11:49.510 --> 01:11:51.829
Most likely a music he was working on near his

01:11:51.829 --> 01:11:55.649
death. I don't think it's going to ever be released

01:11:55.649 --> 01:11:58.250
as an Aussie album. I think it'll be like an

01:11:58.250 --> 01:12:01.270
anthology collection kind of thing. Aussie plus

01:12:01.270 --> 01:12:04.609
other people. Yeah. That makes more sense. He

01:12:04.609 --> 01:12:07.270
released that one with Billy Morrison, wasn't

01:12:07.270 --> 01:12:09.229
it? That was like the last thing he did. Before

01:12:09.229 --> 01:12:11.869
that, he did the last couple albums, but he was

01:12:11.869 --> 01:12:15.090
releasing pieces. A song here, a song there that

01:12:15.090 --> 01:12:17.670
he collabed with other people with. Yeah. So,

01:12:17.689 --> 01:12:21.250
I'm going to say, yeah, you're right. Yeah. Well,

01:12:21.409 --> 01:12:24.890
Metallica, finally. This last one. Will Metallica

01:12:24.890 --> 01:12:28.970
ever put out another piece of decent music? You

01:12:28.970 --> 01:12:31.149
know, I kind of think they have one more in them.

01:12:31.329 --> 01:12:34.170
I don't think they do. I'd like to hope that

01:12:34.170 --> 01:12:38.090
they do. They could check their egos and forget

01:12:38.090 --> 01:12:40.989
about their past successes and just kind of feel

01:12:40.989 --> 01:12:43.350
like a young, hungry, struggling band again.

01:12:44.289 --> 01:12:47.670
I'd like to see them collab with Dave Mustaine.

01:12:47.890 --> 01:12:51.539
That would be great. But I also saw some video

01:12:51.539 --> 01:12:55.020
of Dave Mustaine confronting Lars Ulrich not

01:12:55.020 --> 01:12:59.039
too long back as part of a mental health exercise

01:12:59.039 --> 01:13:02.680
to work out all his issues. And Lars looks like

01:13:02.680 --> 01:13:04.960
he was just utterly devastated by what Dave was

01:13:04.960 --> 01:13:08.479
saying. He looked like he felt like a worm for

01:13:08.479 --> 01:13:11.340
how he treated Dave. So I don't know. He may

01:13:11.340 --> 01:13:13.859
feel way too guilty to ever work with him again.

01:13:14.159 --> 01:13:16.600
Could be. It looked like Lars was taking his

01:13:16.600 --> 01:13:20.189
lumps. That's good. He probably needs to. Okay,

01:13:20.470 --> 01:13:27.270
I think that they just are so far past anything

01:13:27.270 --> 01:13:29.869
good. And they're not relevant anymore. Yeah,

01:13:29.869 --> 01:13:32.670
they can't go back. I don't think it's possible.

01:13:33.050 --> 01:13:35.810
I guess it's probably just me hoping to say that

01:13:35.810 --> 01:13:37.829
they have one more in them. I would love to see

01:13:37.829 --> 01:13:39.050
that. I think you're right. You're probably right.

01:13:39.350 --> 01:13:46.090
Yeah. So, anyhow, that's all the bullet points.

01:13:47.039 --> 01:13:52.520
I've got a list of shocking band firings to be

01:13:52.520 --> 01:13:55.680
followed up with regrettable band quits. Okay.

01:13:55.899 --> 01:13:59.180
I like this. First one on the shocking firing

01:13:59.180 --> 01:14:02.760
front has got to be Ozzy Osbourne from Sabbath

01:14:02.760 --> 01:14:06.779
in 1979. No one saw that coming because they

01:14:06.779 --> 01:14:08.399
weren't telling anybody what was really going

01:14:08.399 --> 01:14:10.380
on behind the scenes. No, they were not. And

01:14:10.380 --> 01:14:12.939
a lot of that was Don Arden, I believe. Yeah,

01:14:12.960 --> 01:14:15.460
Sharon's dad. Saying, you know... You got all

01:14:15.460 --> 01:14:17.859
these functioning, you know, I know you're all

01:14:17.859 --> 01:14:19.439
fucked up all the time and everything, I know

01:14:19.439 --> 01:14:24.539
this, but it was kind of like a, they said, this

01:14:24.539 --> 01:14:27.060
guy is excessive and we think he's going to ruin

01:14:27.060 --> 01:14:29.319
the band. Yeah, he probably would have ruined

01:14:29.319 --> 01:14:32.619
that album, for sure. Well, the Never Say Die

01:14:32.619 --> 01:14:37.399
album, I liked, but people considered it that

01:14:37.399 --> 01:14:39.560
they were going in the wrong direction anyhow.

01:14:39.899 --> 01:14:42.319
This was more of a poppy, happy feel and that

01:14:42.319 --> 01:14:45.989
was not Black Sabbath. No, no. They would have

01:14:45.989 --> 01:14:49.550
to call themselves Pink Sabbath. Yes. Light blue

01:14:49.550 --> 01:14:52.590
Sabbath. Periwinkle Sabbath. Periwinkle Sabbath.

01:14:52.850 --> 01:14:59.869
Periwinkle and plush. Posh Sabbath. So, yeah,

01:15:01.029 --> 01:15:03.270
that was a show. That was pretty shocking. Yeah.

01:15:03.350 --> 01:15:06.310
If David Lee Roth had actually been fired from

01:15:06.310 --> 01:15:07.770
Van Halen, that would have been right up there

01:15:07.770 --> 01:15:11.489
too, but he quit. Yeah. Okay, number two, Sid

01:15:11.489 --> 01:15:14.850
Barrett, fired from Pink Floyd in 1968 due to

01:15:14.850 --> 01:15:18.029
LSD damage to his brain and inability to play.

01:15:18.289 --> 01:15:20.489
And this is another one where people didn't know.

01:15:20.609 --> 01:15:22.789
Yeah, I mean, he wrote their first album, Piper

01:15:22.789 --> 01:15:25.289
at the Gates of Dawn. See Emily Play was a hit.

01:15:25.550 --> 01:15:28.489
And he was just, for the time, he was just like

01:15:28.489 --> 01:15:33.270
stunningly gorgeous as a rock frontman. But he

01:15:33.270 --> 01:15:37.189
was so destroyed by his LSD use that... He would

01:15:37.189 --> 01:15:39.670
stand on stage and not even play, just stare

01:15:39.670 --> 01:15:42.029
at the audience angrily. And everybody had to

01:15:42.029 --> 01:15:45.029
play around him. That's why they got David Gilmour

01:15:45.029 --> 01:15:47.310
in the band, is because they needed him to fill

01:15:47.310 --> 01:15:49.470
in for the parts that Sid wasn't playing anymore.

01:15:49.909 --> 01:15:52.609
David Gilmour, I don't need to say anything.

01:15:52.949 --> 01:15:58.010
Yeah. When Pink Floyd came to the U .S. for their

01:15:58.010 --> 01:16:01.949
first American tour, they flew to L .A. and they

01:16:01.949 --> 01:16:04.029
stayed in the same house where the Alice Cooper

01:16:04.029 --> 01:16:07.340
band was staying. And Alice, in this radio show,

01:16:07.439 --> 01:16:09.560
said he remembers coming down one morning for

01:16:09.560 --> 01:16:12.600
breakfast, and Sid Barrett was looking at the

01:16:12.600 --> 01:16:16.439
back of a cereal box like it was a TV set, and

01:16:16.439 --> 01:16:19.539
laughing and pointing and just having a great

01:16:19.539 --> 01:16:22.420
time watching this cereal box sitting on the

01:16:22.420 --> 01:16:25.659
table. And then there was another time he saw

01:16:25.659 --> 01:16:28.640
Sid's guitar leaning up against the wall, and

01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:30.300
he thought, well, that's not very safe. I should,

01:16:30.359 --> 01:16:31.819
you know, put it down somewhere. And he went

01:16:31.819 --> 01:16:34.310
and looked. The string, there were two strings

01:16:34.310 --> 01:16:37.869
missing. The rest were rusty. And it was just

01:16:37.869 --> 01:16:42.590
beat to crap. And he took it to one of Pink Floyd's

01:16:42.590 --> 01:16:44.569
roadies and they said, yes, it doesn't play anymore

01:16:44.569 --> 01:16:47.149
anyway. In fact, he usually forgets it at the

01:16:47.149 --> 01:16:49.170
gig and we have to send someone back to go get

01:16:49.170 --> 01:16:51.890
it. It's fallen off a truck because he left it

01:16:51.890 --> 01:16:54.810
on the tailgate. He said, it doesn't matter.

01:16:54.970 --> 01:16:57.050
He just holds it and stands there and growls

01:16:57.050 --> 01:17:05.289
at the audience. Yikes. So he was out. Okay.

01:17:06.350 --> 01:17:10.750
And the album Wish You Were Here, a lot of people

01:17:10.750 --> 01:17:13.489
have been told that that album was about Sid

01:17:13.489 --> 01:17:16.250
Barrett and the loss of him. I could see that

01:17:16.250 --> 01:17:18.630
whole album being like that, too, yeah. But it

01:17:18.630 --> 01:17:21.750
actually turns out that was David Gilmour's breakup

01:17:21.750 --> 01:17:26.409
album, Breaking Up With Roger Waters. Oh. Because

01:17:26.409 --> 01:17:29.810
after Wish You Were Here, they did Animals. And

01:17:29.810 --> 01:17:31.409
then the wall, and then they were done. Then

01:17:31.409 --> 01:17:36.350
we're done, yeah. Yeah. Interesting. Next up,

01:17:36.489 --> 01:17:38.949
Stephen Adler, the drummer, fired from Guns N'

01:17:39.029 --> 01:17:43.010
Roses in 1990 for drug use and, again, inability

01:17:43.010 --> 01:17:46.579
to play. Mm -hmm. He just couldn't hold it together

01:17:46.579 --> 01:17:49.359
on stage. He was just nothing in the studio.

01:17:49.779 --> 01:17:51.760
He stroked himself out. He was so heavy on drugs.

01:17:52.000 --> 01:17:54.539
He tried rehab a couple of times and kept failing.

01:17:54.920 --> 01:17:58.279
He signed a legal document saying he would stay

01:17:58.279 --> 01:18:00.640
clean so he could stay in the band and then couldn't.

01:18:01.000 --> 01:18:06.079
He was on Dr. Drew's Rehab House show on reality

01:18:06.079 --> 01:18:10.840
TV, and he eventually succumbed to his addictions.

01:18:11.020 --> 01:18:12.979
And that's too bad, too, because I loved his

01:18:12.979 --> 01:18:15.869
drumming. It was so good on Appetite. I think

01:18:15.869 --> 01:18:18.210
their songwriting was better when he was the

01:18:18.210 --> 01:18:20.430
drummer. Very much so. Than when Matt saw him.

01:18:20.609 --> 01:18:24.420
Yeah. Matt Sorum, they got him from The Cult.

01:18:24.560 --> 01:18:27.020
Yeah, they stole him off that tour. They were

01:18:27.020 --> 01:18:30.000
so mad at The Cult. The Cult was ready to break

01:18:30.000 --> 01:18:32.479
out right then with that album and that tour.

01:18:32.699 --> 01:18:34.720
And if they hadn't had their drummer stolen and

01:18:34.720 --> 01:18:36.720
had to restart, they probably would have been

01:18:36.720 --> 01:18:38.779
a lot bigger than they were. Yeah, that was Sonic

01:18:38.779 --> 01:18:41.180
Temple, right? Yeah. That was pretty much their

01:18:41.180 --> 01:18:43.180
biggest album, their breakout album, yeah. But

01:18:43.180 --> 01:18:45.159
then after that, it was pretty much done. Yeah,

01:18:45.159 --> 01:18:47.100
stealing their drummer just... robbed them of

01:18:47.100 --> 01:18:48.840
all their momentum, and they had to start over

01:18:48.840 --> 01:18:50.899
with a new guy, and they never got back to where

01:18:50.899 --> 01:18:52.859
they were. And especially since they loved Guns

01:18:52.859 --> 01:18:55.699
N' Roses, and they were touring with them. Meanwhile,

01:18:55.880 --> 01:18:57.319
you know, they're in there talking to them, and

01:18:57.319 --> 01:18:59.680
they're mad. When the tour's over, you know,

01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:03.539
this guy here, look at him. Yeah, yeah, he's

01:19:03.539 --> 01:19:06.100
going. That guy over there drooling and pissing

01:19:06.100 --> 01:19:08.239
on himself? Yeah. We're not going to have that

01:19:08.239 --> 01:19:12.479
anymore, so, yeah. Next up, Scott Weiland from

01:19:12.479 --> 01:19:15.399
Stone Temple Pilots. Now, that was a shock to

01:19:15.399 --> 01:19:17.380
some people, but not to me, because I was keeping

01:19:17.380 --> 01:19:20.199
up in the loop. Yeah. The guy was so incredibly

01:19:20.199 --> 01:19:22.819
fucked up. Oh, yeah. I mean, I kept finding him,

01:19:22.819 --> 01:19:25.539
like, naked in, like, flower patches in Manhattan.

01:19:26.180 --> 01:19:29.140
He actually tried cleaning up and writing an

01:19:29.140 --> 01:19:31.159
album, and the album sucked and tanked and didn't

01:19:31.159 --> 01:19:34.079
sell well. Yeah, so I guess he decided he needed

01:19:34.079 --> 01:19:37.000
to stay messed up. Yeah. But, yeah, he was fired

01:19:37.000 --> 01:19:39.579
in 2013 due to drug use, and two years later

01:19:39.579 --> 01:19:44.980
he was dead of an overdose. Yeah, yep. Yeah.

01:19:44.980 --> 01:19:48.420
Lindsay Buckingham was fired from Fleetman Mac

01:19:48.420 --> 01:19:52.579
in 2018 because Stevie Nicks said, it's him or

01:19:52.579 --> 01:19:55.539
me. Yeah, and they kept Stevie. And I would have

01:19:55.539 --> 01:19:57.859
as well. I would have too. Absolutely. I mean,

01:19:57.859 --> 01:19:59.979
he's a great singer, great songwriter, great

01:19:59.979 --> 01:20:03.300
guitar player, but the audience wants to see

01:20:03.300 --> 01:20:05.939
Stevie. You don't get rid of Stevie. Yeah, Stevie

01:20:05.939 --> 01:20:11.340
was, yeah. Yeah. But Mick Fleetwood said, yeah,

01:20:11.359 --> 01:20:14.390
it wasn't really a choice. When Stevie says he

01:20:14.390 --> 01:20:17.590
goes or I go, it's like, we've already reached

01:20:17.590 --> 01:20:21.470
our decision then. Yeah, yes. So, do you want

01:20:21.470 --> 01:20:25.569
to fire him, Stevie, or us? Yeah. Next up, Sammy

01:20:25.569 --> 01:20:30.470
Hagar fired from Van Halen in 1996 when Eddie

01:20:30.470 --> 01:20:32.930
didn't want him to do solo albums. Oh, yeah,

01:20:32.949 --> 01:20:35.390
yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, to hear Sammy tell it,

01:20:35.430 --> 01:20:38.619
he said, I never said I quit. I never quit. I

01:20:38.619 --> 01:20:40.720
said, I want to do solo albums. And Eddie said,

01:20:40.899 --> 01:20:42.920
well, I guess you can't do that and be in this

01:20:42.920 --> 01:20:46.359
band, so I guess you're out. And Sammy took that

01:20:46.359 --> 01:20:49.399
as being fired. But Eddie still says, no, he

01:20:49.399 --> 01:20:54.600
just quit on us. So I believe Sammy. I think

01:20:54.600 --> 01:20:58.319
so, too. There were some other things, too. He

01:20:58.319 --> 01:21:00.260
was working with some other musicians, and I

01:21:00.260 --> 01:21:02.529
think Eddie found out about it. And it really

01:21:02.529 --> 01:21:04.289
pissed him off because he's like, no, no, no,

01:21:04.310 --> 01:21:07.750
Van Halen is the big band. Yeah, all your creative

01:21:07.750 --> 01:21:10.449
energy should be here, none of it there. Even

01:21:10.449 --> 01:21:13.569
though Eddie Van Halen pissed his brother off

01:21:13.569 --> 01:21:17.850
so bad by working with Michael Jackson. Yeah,

01:21:17.989 --> 01:21:22.489
he was furious about that because his brother,

01:21:22.609 --> 01:21:25.550
Alex, always condemned it. He goes, you only

01:21:25.550 --> 01:21:28.590
have a certain amount of songs, don't give any

01:21:28.590 --> 01:21:32.000
of them away. And there he was, you know. It

01:21:32.000 --> 01:21:34.979
also led to the breakup of Van Halen, too. David

01:21:34.979 --> 01:21:37.079
Lee Roth felt like Eddie Van Halen was taking

01:21:37.079 --> 01:21:40.819
all of the steam away from him, and he wanted

01:21:40.819 --> 01:21:44.579
to go solo to do his own thing. So that whole

01:21:44.579 --> 01:21:48.279
thing there was like a little bit of both. But

01:21:48.279 --> 01:21:52.000
yeah, the whole Sammy Hagar thing, that was going

01:21:52.000 --> 01:21:57.539
to implode anyhow. Yeah, it really was. And then

01:21:57.539 --> 01:22:00.279
Michael Anthony, the bass player, was fired 11

01:22:00.279 --> 01:22:03.880
years later in 2007 because Eddie didn't like

01:22:03.880 --> 01:22:06.560
it that he joined Sammy Hagar's band Chickenfoot.

01:22:06.640 --> 01:22:08.720
Yeah, that's right. He said, oh, you're going

01:22:08.720 --> 01:22:10.460
to play with him? Well, you're the enemy now.

01:22:10.560 --> 01:22:12.600
You can't be in Van Halen since you still like

01:22:12.600 --> 01:22:14.840
Sammy. And also he wanted his son to get that

01:22:14.840 --> 01:22:19.739
spot. That's true. He was creating a vacancy

01:22:19.739 --> 01:22:23.340
for Wolfie. He created a vacancy, yep. Next up,

01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:27.180
Dennis DeYoung from Styx. He was first fired

01:22:27.180 --> 01:22:30.380
in 1979 when they couldn't agree on musical direction.

01:22:30.680 --> 01:22:33.300
Yeah. Because Dennis DeYoung wanted to do...

01:22:33.300 --> 01:22:36.920
Paradise. Paradise Theater. Yes. And Kilroy was

01:22:36.920 --> 01:22:40.180
here. Yes. And when the tour with Kilroy was

01:22:40.180 --> 01:22:44.579
here, the band was on stage for 20 minutes talking

01:22:44.579 --> 01:22:47.880
and acting and doing dialogue before a single

01:22:47.880 --> 01:22:51.890
note was played. Yeah. No. No. And Dennis DeYoung

01:22:51.890 --> 01:22:55.010
wanted to do more like Broadway style, show tunes,

01:22:55.170 --> 01:22:58.029
and Styx was like, we started out as prog rock,

01:22:58.109 --> 01:23:00.750
man. Yeah, it was like, we don't know what you're

01:23:00.750 --> 01:23:04.390
trying to do, Dennis, but it is us. Yeah. And

01:23:04.390 --> 01:23:06.609
then they fired him again, and he came back.

01:23:06.770 --> 01:23:09.810
Yeah. And then they fired again in 2000 when

01:23:09.810 --> 01:23:12.170
they had put an album together and they were

01:23:12.170 --> 01:23:14.329
ready to go do a tour, and Dennis DeYoung said,

01:23:14.550 --> 01:23:17.529
well, I've recently learned that I'm allergic

01:23:17.529 --> 01:23:21.239
to sunlight and bright lights, so. I can't, and

01:23:21.239 --> 01:23:26.020
I just have to stay home. I remember that. Now,

01:23:26.020 --> 01:23:29.119
that is an actual illness, to be allergic to

01:23:29.119 --> 01:23:31.439
sunlight. But it usually presents when you're

01:23:31.439 --> 01:23:35.279
about six years old, and it's devastating. So

01:23:35.279 --> 01:23:37.920
this was obviously bullshit on his part. Just

01:23:37.920 --> 01:23:41.600
absolute bullshit on his part. They said goodbye

01:23:41.600 --> 01:23:43.880
at that point. He was such a prima donna. Oh,

01:23:43.920 --> 01:23:48.590
yeah. Listen, the guy is a genius. And I love

01:23:48.590 --> 01:23:51.529
both incarnations of Styx, as in the music, you

01:23:51.529 --> 01:23:54.489
know. I love the rocker Tommy Shaw style. I also

01:23:54.489 --> 01:23:57.689
love, you know, like Renegade. I also love the

01:23:57.689 --> 01:24:03.510
Come Sail Away stuff, yeah. I'm blanking on those.

01:24:04.010 --> 01:24:06.149
Anyhow, everyone knows, yeah, you have the, and

01:24:06.149 --> 01:24:09.069
that's, they were so similar to Queen on that

01:24:09.069 --> 01:24:13.890
level. Yeah. Only, I know Freddie Mercury wasn't

01:24:13.890 --> 01:24:16.489
perceived as like a manless man, you know. Yeah.

01:24:16.649 --> 01:24:19.170
He's more manly than Dennis DeYoung. And Dennis

01:24:19.170 --> 01:24:21.630
DeYoung wasn't gay. No, I know. Isn't that funny?

01:24:22.029 --> 01:24:26.050
Yeah. It's pretty sad when a gay man is manlier

01:24:26.050 --> 01:24:28.430
than a straight man. Yes. It does happen. It

01:24:28.430 --> 01:24:31.670
does happen. That's Dennis DeYoung. Yeah. Okay.

01:24:31.810 --> 01:24:34.270
All right, Vince Neil being fired from Motley

01:24:34.270 --> 01:24:38.069
Crue in 1992. Now, that was a shock. Nobody saw

01:24:38.069 --> 01:24:39.899
that coming. Now, he's probably going to get

01:24:39.899 --> 01:24:41.560
fired again here pretty soon, and that won't

01:24:41.560 --> 01:24:43.119
be a shock to anybody. No, that's not shocking

01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:44.939
at all. As a matter of fact, I'd be like, who's

01:24:44.939 --> 01:24:47.539
replacing him? I might go watch. But it's like

01:24:47.539 --> 01:24:51.119
82 to 92 was kind of Motley Crue's heyday with

01:24:51.119 --> 01:24:53.560
Vince Neil, and then boom, out he goes. Yeah.

01:24:53.619 --> 01:24:59.340
I was stunned. I had no idea. This one really,

01:24:59.479 --> 01:25:02.000
I don't know, it was shocking in hindsight, but

01:25:02.000 --> 01:25:04.939
at the time nobody knew. But firing Pete Best

01:25:04.939 --> 01:25:09.850
from the Beatles in 1962. Due to lack of chemistry,

01:25:09.949 --> 01:25:13.310
both on the recording and the live performances.

01:25:14.050 --> 01:25:18.409
And Paul and John were upset that he was better

01:25:18.409 --> 01:25:20.609
looking than them and would get more attention.

01:25:21.210 --> 01:25:23.529
Because they wanted to be more the faces of the

01:25:23.529 --> 01:25:27.350
band. But for years, people said, no, no, Pete

01:25:27.350 --> 01:25:29.329
Best was an awesome drummer. He's a great drummer.

01:25:29.409 --> 01:25:33.989
Well, he was, but he just didn't fit with the

01:25:33.989 --> 01:25:37.149
band. Yes. It's like putting Tommy Aldridge in

01:25:37.149 --> 01:25:39.420
with the Carpenters. It ain't going to work.

01:25:39.760 --> 01:25:42.199
I'd love to hear that for one song now. Yeah.

01:25:44.579 --> 01:25:47.319
Tommy Aldridge, he's a very, very underrated

01:25:47.319 --> 01:25:49.619
drummer. Yeah, he's still active. He is. You

01:25:49.619 --> 01:25:52.520
can find a lot of videos that he does on YouTube.

01:25:52.840 --> 01:25:55.159
You know, when he was 30, he looked 60. Now that

01:25:55.159 --> 01:25:59.340
he's 70, he looks 60. Yeah, yeah. He's just kind

01:25:59.340 --> 01:26:02.819
of always been that age. All right, let's see.

01:26:02.920 --> 01:26:05.560
John Anderson from Yes. He was fired in 2009

01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:09.689
from health issues. and the band decided they

01:26:09.689 --> 01:26:11.210
didn't want to wait for him to get better. So

01:26:11.210 --> 01:26:13.250
they said, well, sorry, you're out. We're going

01:26:13.250 --> 01:26:14.609
to replace you, and we're going to keep going.

01:26:14.750 --> 01:26:17.250
Which was a big mistake. Yeah, because they did.

01:26:17.890 --> 01:26:20.729
Hey there, slap nuts. It's time for the Creeps

01:26:20.729 --> 01:26:26.050
Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin seeds. This

01:26:26.050 --> 01:26:29.170
is Johnny Rohypnol with your music news. This

01:26:29.170 --> 01:26:31.750
November, Bad Company will be inducted into the

01:26:31.750 --> 01:26:34.489
Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Only two of the band's

01:26:34.489 --> 01:26:37.869
original members remain, Paul Rogers, the singer

01:26:37.869 --> 01:26:40.850
and drummer, Simon Kirk, the latter of which

01:26:40.850 --> 01:26:42.890
said the odds of them performing at the ceremony

01:26:42.890 --> 01:26:46.149
are very good. It's not a definite just yet,

01:26:46.189 --> 01:26:48.829
though. I don't know. I know that we've been

01:26:48.829 --> 01:26:51.130
approached to play a couple of songs Kirk recently

01:26:51.130 --> 01:26:53.369
explained to Defenders of the Faith podcast.

01:26:53.909 --> 01:26:55.989
I've spoken with Paul. Paul's health, as you

01:26:55.989 --> 01:26:58.630
know, is not good, but I think I'm crossing my

01:26:58.630 --> 01:27:00.609
fingers that we will be able to play at least

01:27:00.609 --> 01:27:03.350
one song. I don't know what that is yet, and

01:27:03.350 --> 01:27:05.029
I don't even know who's going to be inducting

01:27:05.029 --> 01:27:09.869
us yet. Simon, we hope you are correct. We would

01:27:09.869 --> 01:27:13.090
love to hear one last song from you two. This

01:27:13.090 --> 01:27:16.210
is Johnny Rohypnol. That was your music news.

01:27:16.289 --> 01:27:22.250
And remember, bar chords are bullshit. They brought

01:27:22.250 --> 01:27:24.449
him back. Yeah, they did. Yeah, we need this

01:27:24.449 --> 01:27:26.810
guy. People like you and I were going, yeah,

01:27:26.810 --> 01:27:33.329
and? Okay, Peter Criss of Kiss, fired in 1980.

01:27:34.510 --> 01:27:37.369
Yeah, they kept his alcoholism and drug abuse

01:27:37.369 --> 01:27:40.949
so under wraps. Yeah. Even Ace. And a lot of

01:27:40.949 --> 01:27:43.130
people heard about his wrecks and his stuff like

01:27:43.130 --> 01:27:45.590
that. Yeah. They kept it under wraps so well

01:27:45.590 --> 01:27:47.529
that people were like, oh, golly. But, you know,

01:27:47.550 --> 01:27:48.869
to them, they're like, man, this has been going

01:27:48.869 --> 01:27:50.829
on for years and we're fucking sick of it. Yeah.

01:27:51.250 --> 01:27:56.489
Well, the breaking point has been during a concert,

01:27:56.550 --> 01:27:59.149
Paul turned around to Peter and said, song's

01:27:59.149 --> 01:28:01.930
too fast, slow it down. Which, you know, I've

01:28:01.930 --> 01:28:04.840
heard. on stage before. It happens all the time.

01:28:04.880 --> 01:28:06.560
It happens all the time. You get excited and

01:28:06.560 --> 01:28:09.039
you're playing too fast and they say slow it

01:28:09.039 --> 01:28:10.659
down and I slow it down. You might have been

01:28:10.659 --> 01:28:13.119
pissed off and said it kind of firmly to where

01:28:13.119 --> 01:28:15.319
everyone could hear. That might have been the

01:28:15.319 --> 01:28:19.069
biggest... problem that Peter Criss had, kind

01:28:19.069 --> 01:28:21.350
of like giving them the finger in front of everybody,

01:28:21.489 --> 01:28:23.930
like, look, this guy. How dare you embarrass

01:28:23.930 --> 01:28:26.170
me on stage? Because what Peter did was he slowed

01:28:26.170 --> 01:28:29.670
the song down to a crawl. Yes. And if he's playing

01:28:29.670 --> 01:28:32.109
dead slow, the band has no choice but to play

01:28:32.109 --> 01:28:37.430
dead slow with him. Yep. You talk about vindictive.

01:28:37.729 --> 01:28:41.689
Sure thing, Paul. In another instance, he threw

01:28:41.689 --> 01:28:43.890
his drumsticks at the back of Gene Simmons' head

01:28:43.890 --> 01:28:47.369
and hit him on stage. Oh, shit, I didn't know

01:28:47.369 --> 01:28:51.390
that. Yeah. And there was another time that he

01:28:51.390 --> 01:28:53.590
just completely stopped playing during the song.

01:28:53.649 --> 01:28:55.510
Put his drumsticks down and just sat there and

01:28:55.510 --> 01:28:58.710
refused to play for the rest of the song. I don't

01:28:58.710 --> 01:29:00.689
know why. He just said, nah, I'm not doing this.

01:29:00.689 --> 01:29:02.649
Well, I mean, he had a lot of personal problems,

01:29:02.770 --> 01:29:06.470
too. Yeah. Very well documented with his ex -wife

01:29:06.470 --> 01:29:09.789
and stuff like that. Now, from Peter Criss' standpoint,

01:29:09.909 --> 01:29:14.069
he says at the time he was really, really pissed

01:29:14.069 --> 01:29:17.279
that... Gene and Paul were taking over all the

01:29:17.279 --> 01:29:20.000
decision -making in the band. And Gene and Paul

01:29:20.000 --> 01:29:22.380
said that they had to because the other two were

01:29:22.380 --> 01:29:25.439
just completely... It's kind of like Axl Rose

01:29:25.439 --> 01:29:28.220
in Guns N' Roses. They're painted as bad guy,

01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:30.939
but everyone else was too wasted to take care

01:29:30.939 --> 01:29:33.760
of business. Look, I'm on Axl's side and I'm

01:29:33.760 --> 01:29:36.720
on Gene and Paul's side. I love Ace, and the

01:29:36.720 --> 01:29:39.279
part that I don't like is they're continuing

01:29:39.279 --> 01:29:42.960
mouthing and bad -mouthing him. Leave it alone.

01:29:43.079 --> 01:29:45.319
We know what happened. Yeah. Leave them alone.

01:29:45.460 --> 01:29:48.600
They just can't let it go, apparently. All right,

01:29:48.600 --> 01:29:51.300
next up, Don Felder being fired from the Eagles.

01:29:51.380 --> 01:29:54.180
Oh, I don't remember that one, but yeah. That

01:29:54.180 --> 01:29:57.520
was a big shocker, because he fit that band so

01:29:57.520 --> 01:29:59.880
well. Oh, I know he did. There were some early

01:29:59.880 --> 01:30:02.899
firings. I wasn't keeping up with the Eagles

01:30:02.899 --> 01:30:06.119
at that time, and I don't even know if I know

01:30:06.119 --> 01:30:09.000
what happened. There was a previous firing. Their

01:30:09.000 --> 01:30:13.539
bass player, Randy... I can't remember his last

01:30:13.539 --> 01:30:16.380
name, but he's the one who sang the high on Take

01:30:16.380 --> 01:30:19.800
It to the Limit. Yeah. And apparently after that

01:30:19.800 --> 01:30:22.479
tour was over, he told the rest of the band in

01:30:22.479 --> 01:30:25.100
no uncertain terms, I made it through that tour,

01:30:25.199 --> 01:30:27.359
but I swear to God, I'm never singing that song

01:30:27.359 --> 01:30:30.039
again. That's just too high. It hurts. I can't

01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:32.800
keep my voice in that kind of condition. I ain't

01:30:32.800 --> 01:30:35.100
singing that song ever again. Well, I could see

01:30:35.100 --> 01:30:39.060
how high that is. Yeah. But Glenn Frey and Don

01:30:39.060 --> 01:30:42.380
Henley said, All right, you're out. And they

01:30:42.380 --> 01:30:44.300
hired Timothy B. Schmidt, who could sing that

01:30:44.300 --> 01:30:47.399
high all the time. And he did the song, I Can't

01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:49.539
Tell You Why, which is even higher than Take

01:30:49.539 --> 01:30:50.800
It to the Limit. Even higher than that. Yeah.

01:30:51.079 --> 01:30:54.819
Which is a good song. It is. It is. But in 2001,

01:30:55.100 --> 01:30:59.220
Don Felder, the second guitar player, he questioned

01:30:59.220 --> 01:31:03.119
the way the band members were being paid. And

01:31:03.119 --> 01:31:06.460
Henley and Fry got mad, and lawsuits, countersuits

01:31:06.460 --> 01:31:11.100
got filed. and eventually they kicked Felder

01:31:11.100 --> 01:31:15.819
out. And at the time, in 2001, he made a prediction.

01:31:15.920 --> 01:31:19.720
He said Henley and Fry are just getting insanely

01:31:19.720 --> 01:31:22.979
greedy, and they're getting greedier every day.

01:31:23.239 --> 01:31:25.739
And he's right. They're just nuts greedy now.

01:31:25.960 --> 01:31:30.149
I mean, the prices they charge are just... You

01:31:30.149 --> 01:31:32.350
can't have a conscience and charge those prices

01:31:32.350 --> 01:31:34.590
to people. No, I know. No, I hate them because

01:31:34.590 --> 01:31:37.710
of that. And also, Don Felder is responsible

01:31:37.710 --> 01:31:40.310
for some pretty good solo music. Yeah, he is.

01:31:40.489 --> 01:31:44.630
Yeah. Most notably, heavy metal, the theme from

01:31:44.630 --> 01:31:48.590
the show. This is back considerably a long time

01:31:48.590 --> 01:31:54.909
ago in the 70s. But he did a solo song. For the

01:31:54.909 --> 01:31:56.710
soundtrack? Yeah, for the soundtrack of heavy

01:31:56.710 --> 01:31:59.199
metal. And it was really good, and then later

01:31:59.199 --> 01:32:01.579
on he did his own stuff, and I always found his

01:32:01.579 --> 01:32:05.859
stuff to be really good. Yeah. Next up, Lemmy

01:32:05.859 --> 01:32:10.920
Kilmister was fired from Hawkwind in 1975 after

01:32:10.920 --> 01:32:15.000
a drug bust at the Canadian border. Yep. And

01:32:15.000 --> 01:32:18.640
the last song he ever wrote for Hawkwind was

01:32:18.640 --> 01:32:21.960
called Motorhead. So that's when he named his

01:32:21.960 --> 01:32:25.739
band. But at the time, people thought, what?

01:32:26.270 --> 01:32:28.930
You're firing Lemmy? Yeah. How in the world are

01:32:28.930 --> 01:32:30.949
you going to get by without Lemmy? And Hawkwind

01:32:30.949 --> 01:32:32.550
never went anywhere again. No, they never did.

01:32:32.789 --> 01:32:38.430
And Motorhead was formed and, I mean, they have

01:32:38.430 --> 01:32:40.670
their audience still to this day. It took about

01:32:40.670 --> 01:32:42.890
five minutes to put that band together because

01:32:42.890 --> 01:32:46.250
everybody wanted to work with them. Yeah. This

01:32:46.250 --> 01:32:49.630
one, this was kind of surprising to me. Pete

01:32:49.630 --> 01:32:53.050
Willis being fired from Def Leppard in 1983 due

01:32:53.050 --> 01:32:56.250
to alcoholism and inability to play. He was spending

01:32:56.250 --> 01:32:59.189
more time off the stage in the wings drinking

01:32:59.189 --> 01:33:02.550
than he was on stage playing. Yeah, very famous

01:33:02.550 --> 01:33:06.609
about how his tails were just being excessively

01:33:06.609 --> 01:33:09.770
fucked up. Yeah, and he was one of those guys

01:33:09.770 --> 01:33:12.010
that there was no way he was going to be able

01:33:12.010 --> 01:33:15.050
to handle all that was available to him in the

01:33:15.050 --> 01:33:16.989
rock and roll lifestyle. They always called him

01:33:16.989 --> 01:33:21.609
Wasted Pete Way. Yeah. Oh yeah, Peter Way was

01:33:21.609 --> 01:33:23.989
another one. He's a bass player. This is Pete

01:33:23.989 --> 01:33:26.989
Willis. He was replaced by Phil Collin. Pete

01:33:26.989 --> 01:33:29.289
Way was another one, actually. I jumped into

01:33:29.289 --> 01:33:35.810
that. He actually, during the sessions for Pyromania,

01:33:35.829 --> 01:33:39.590
was replaced by Phil Collin. So a number of the

01:33:39.590 --> 01:33:41.569
solos you hear on that record are Phil Collin,

01:33:41.590 --> 01:33:43.930
but Willis wasn't fired until after the album

01:33:43.930 --> 01:33:46.109
was done. I don't think he did the tour. Well,

01:33:46.229 --> 01:33:48.029
I mean, you can listen to On Through the Night

01:33:48.029 --> 01:33:51.489
and albums like that and tell the difference,

01:33:51.770 --> 01:33:54.289
a distinctive difference in the style and how

01:33:54.289 --> 01:33:57.090
much better it was and how much better it was

01:33:57.090 --> 01:34:01.510
for radio for Def Leppard. And I did like On

01:34:01.510 --> 01:34:04.470
Through the Night. Let's see, what was the one

01:34:04.470 --> 01:34:11.859
before that? It had the song Photograph. Was

01:34:11.859 --> 01:34:14.680
that Pyromania? That was Pyromania. I can't remember.

01:34:14.760 --> 01:34:17.020
There was a second one in there, yeah. Anyhow,

01:34:17.100 --> 01:34:20.600
it was good, but it wasn't like something that

01:34:20.600 --> 01:34:22.979
you could ride to the top good until Phil Collin

01:34:22.979 --> 01:34:24.920
came in. And then Steve Clark had a lot to do

01:34:24.920 --> 01:34:27.520
with that, too. Yeah, yeah. Steve Clark's style

01:34:27.520 --> 01:34:30.720
of playing. And by the third album, when Pete

01:34:30.720 --> 01:34:33.359
was getting to be a big problem, they had so

01:34:33.359 --> 01:34:35.659
much invested and had so much momentum. It was

01:34:35.659 --> 01:34:37.859
like, we can't let this grind to a halt. We've

01:34:37.859 --> 01:34:40.300
got to keep this going. Even though they'd all

01:34:40.300 --> 01:34:42.510
been, you know, friends together since they were

01:34:42.510 --> 01:34:46.069
little kids. I remember when they first came

01:34:46.069 --> 01:34:48.550
over to the U .S. for their first album, they

01:34:48.550 --> 01:34:51.470
were opening for Ted Nugent. And I met them when

01:34:51.470 --> 01:34:56.149
I went over to the studio at KY102. And at that

01:34:56.149 --> 01:34:59.149
point, I think the youngest member was 15 and

01:34:59.149 --> 01:35:01.529
the oldest member was 21. The singer, I think,

01:35:01.550 --> 01:35:05.010
was the oldest member. And I met them all and

01:35:05.010 --> 01:35:11.180
I shook all their hands. No way could I have

01:35:11.180 --> 01:35:13.159
ever known what was going to happen to this group

01:35:13.159 --> 01:35:15.960
of young men from England. No. One out of the

01:35:15.960 --> 01:35:19.539
band, another one loses his arm. Massive success,

01:35:19.960 --> 01:35:22.619
massive heartache. It was just, wow. That was

01:35:22.619 --> 01:35:25.659
something else. Steve Clark drank himself out

01:35:25.659 --> 01:35:27.579
of the band for a different reason. He killed

01:35:27.579 --> 01:35:31.000
himself, pretty much, drinking. That band's had

01:35:31.000 --> 01:35:32.800
a lot of tragedy around it, but they've done

01:35:32.800 --> 01:35:37.239
very well. Next up. Oh, you know how they got

01:35:37.239 --> 01:35:41.149
their name? Uh -uh. They were in the studio getting

01:35:41.149 --> 01:35:47.449
ready to perform On Through the Night was the

01:35:47.449 --> 01:35:49.270
first one. They were getting ready to record

01:35:49.270 --> 01:35:51.949
that, and they didn't have a name yet. There

01:35:51.949 --> 01:35:54.409
was a giant tapestry with a leopard with a horn

01:35:54.409 --> 01:35:57.550
coming out of its head, out of its ear. Oh, he

01:35:57.550 --> 01:35:59.289
was the deaf leopard. Deaf leopard. And then

01:35:59.289 --> 01:36:01.729
you spell it differently because they wanted

01:36:01.729 --> 01:36:03.390
it to be like Led Zeppelin. Led Zeppelin, yeah.

01:36:03.430 --> 01:36:06.029
Led Zeppelin, deaf leopard. Yeah, and I believe

01:36:06.029 --> 01:36:11.329
it was... Joe Elliott that said, oh, look at

01:36:11.329 --> 01:36:14.909
Def Leppard. And I was like, because they're

01:36:14.909 --> 01:36:17.970
just talking about it now. I was like, Def Leppard?

01:36:18.930 --> 01:36:22.210
Def Leppard. That's how it was born. The lettering

01:36:22.210 --> 01:36:25.550
style they used for their logo was something

01:36:25.550 --> 01:36:27.789
that Joe Elliott came up with himself. Yeah.

01:36:27.869 --> 01:36:30.149
He was always writing down prospective brand

01:36:30.149 --> 01:36:32.909
names in that type of font because he thought

01:36:32.909 --> 01:36:34.810
it was cool. Yeah, he did the Def Leppard. I

01:36:34.810 --> 01:36:36.170
said, that's it right there. It looks pretty

01:36:36.170 --> 01:36:39.920
dang good. Yep. All right, Dave Navarro fired

01:36:39.920 --> 01:36:43.180
from the Red Hot Chili Peppers in 1995 due to

01:36:43.180 --> 01:36:46.439
insane amounts of drug use. And he was doing

01:36:46.439 --> 01:36:49.300
insane amounts. That guy was like scary addicted.

01:36:50.079 --> 01:36:53.520
Yeah, oh my God. Read up on their relationship

01:36:53.520 --> 01:36:57.739
if you ever got a couple of scary moments. But

01:36:57.739 --> 01:37:01.760
it was an odd firing because they were so happy

01:37:01.760 --> 01:37:03.319
to get him and thought it was going to be great.

01:37:03.380 --> 01:37:05.079
They put out this new album and all of a sudden,

01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:09.449
yeah, he's out again. Him and Anthony Cadis were

01:37:09.449 --> 01:37:11.770
very happy to see each other, according to their

01:37:11.770 --> 01:37:15.170
videos. Yeah. Very happy to see. They seemed

01:37:15.170 --> 01:37:18.109
very friendly. They were very friendly towards

01:37:18.109 --> 01:37:21.350
each other, very. And then they replaced him

01:37:21.350 --> 01:37:23.649
with somebody, and then they replaced him with

01:37:23.649 --> 01:37:27.350
Josh Klinghoffer, who played guitar for the Chili

01:37:27.350 --> 01:37:30.390
Peppers for about 10 years. Yeah, yeah. And actually,

01:37:30.409 --> 01:37:32.710
they came out with better music, probably, anyhow,

01:37:32.770 --> 01:37:35.220
with him. But, I mean, I... And then they fired

01:37:35.220 --> 01:37:37.359
him in 2019. Yeah, they did. Got rid of him.

01:37:37.439 --> 01:37:40.880
Yeah. And the only reason they fired him is their

01:37:40.880 --> 01:37:42.979
original, not the original, the original was

01:37:42.979 --> 01:37:46.779
Hillel Slovak, I think. Sounds about right. Yeah.

01:37:46.939 --> 01:37:51.260
But their previous guitar, John Frusciante, who

01:37:51.260 --> 01:37:53.800
was on the album for, like, Under the Bridge

01:37:53.800 --> 01:37:56.680
and that stuff, he was finally clean and sober

01:37:56.680 --> 01:37:58.420
and wanted back in the band. And the band's like,

01:37:58.539 --> 01:38:04.920
come on in. Here's your spot. Wow. So Josh was

01:38:04.920 --> 01:38:10.020
like, I get it, but still. I showed up for practice

01:38:10.020 --> 01:38:11.880
and rehearsal, and they said, oh, by the way,

01:38:11.920 --> 01:38:15.319
you're out, John's back in. I guess I'll go back

01:38:15.319 --> 01:38:20.340
home now. Flea kind of sets the songs anyhow.

01:38:20.720 --> 01:38:24.159
His bass is the song, basically. The guitar follows

01:38:24.159 --> 01:38:27.939
him. Yeah, bass and drums, that funk is... pretty

01:38:27.939 --> 01:38:29.840
much what the Chili Peppers are all about. The

01:38:29.840 --> 01:38:31.600
guitar is there as kind of an accent, like on

01:38:31.600 --> 01:38:34.100
The Police. The guitar is not all that important.

01:38:34.939 --> 01:38:36.279
Primus, the guitar is not all that important.

01:38:36.279 --> 01:38:38.399
Yeah, it could actually be a variety of different

01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:43.600
people. Yeah. Because it's so just not there,

01:38:43.699 --> 01:38:45.560
you know. It's like all the later Beatles albums.

01:38:45.800 --> 01:38:47.680
Ringo really didn't need to be there. No, he

01:38:47.680 --> 01:38:50.600
didn't. I don't even know if he was. Yeah, I

01:38:50.600 --> 01:38:53.020
mean, half those songs, either Lennon or McCartney

01:38:53.020 --> 01:38:56.739
was playing the drums on them. Yeah. Yeah. All

01:38:56.739 --> 01:39:00.810
right. And he's still around. Jimi Hendrix got

01:39:00.810 --> 01:39:03.609
fired from Little Richard's band, The Upsetters.

01:39:03.770 --> 01:39:06.649
Oh, actually, I knew that, yeah. Fired in 1965

01:39:06.649 --> 01:39:10.310
because he was always late. And he dressed really

01:39:10.310 --> 01:39:12.689
weird and he acted strangely on stage. And he

01:39:12.689 --> 01:39:15.810
was too flamboyant, I read. He was upstaging

01:39:15.810 --> 01:39:17.649
Little Richard. Yeah, he didn't like that. No.

01:39:18.109 --> 01:39:20.810
And also showing up late and being fucked up

01:39:20.810 --> 01:39:22.789
and all that and the excessive drug use. But

01:39:22.789 --> 01:39:24.970
yeah, Little Richard did not like this other

01:39:24.970 --> 01:39:28.050
guy over there fucking stealing the show. It's

01:39:28.050 --> 01:39:32.819
just like when Jimi Hendrix on his own. was opening

01:39:32.819 --> 01:39:34.779
for acts, they'd can him all the time because

01:39:34.779 --> 01:39:37.859
he'd light his guitar on fire, and everyone would

01:39:37.859 --> 01:39:40.180
be wanting to watch more of this new guy. Nobody

01:39:40.180 --> 01:39:42.439
could follow that. Yeah. Nobody could follow

01:39:42.439 --> 01:39:43.659
that. So they're all like going, hey, you're

01:39:43.659 --> 01:39:48.659
out. Next up, we have Brian Jones, one of the

01:39:48.659 --> 01:39:51.020
founding members of the Rolling Stones, one of

01:39:51.020 --> 01:39:54.960
the most versatile musicians they've ever had

01:39:54.960 --> 01:39:59.539
in that band, was fired in 1969 for drug use.

01:40:00.610 --> 01:40:02.430
Supposedly, did you read that, have you ever

01:40:02.430 --> 01:40:04.430
read the thing about it, they said he was murdered?

01:40:04.810 --> 01:40:07.250
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, because a month later he was

01:40:07.250 --> 01:40:11.489
face down in his pool. They say it was over music

01:40:11.489 --> 01:40:14.329
rights and all that. Yeah, yeah, because he was

01:40:14.329 --> 01:40:16.649
complaining about the way the songs were going.

01:40:16.869 --> 01:40:20.449
He didn't want the mainstream success. He still

01:40:20.449 --> 01:40:23.510
wanted to be rough and edgy and spontaneous.

01:40:24.829 --> 01:40:26.949
The rest of the guys were falling in line with

01:40:26.949 --> 01:40:28.949
the record label who said, hey, let's turn out

01:40:28.949 --> 01:40:31.329
some hits. Everybody's going to get rich. And

01:40:31.329 --> 01:40:33.569
Brian was like, I don't want to get rich. I just

01:40:33.569 --> 01:40:38.149
want to have fun. But he had to go. And he really

01:40:38.149 --> 01:40:42.930
did go. Yeah. And there was a woman named Marianne

01:40:42.930 --> 01:40:46.789
Faithfull who kind of got... She kind of moved

01:40:46.789 --> 01:40:49.210
around through that band. First she was this

01:40:49.210 --> 01:40:50.949
guy's girlfriend, then this guy's girlfriend.

01:40:51.449 --> 01:40:54.569
She was Brian Jones '... main girlfriend at the

01:40:54.569 --> 01:40:57.829
time that he died but i remember always hearing

01:40:57.829 --> 01:41:01.130
about some suspicion about her and some of the

01:41:01.130 --> 01:41:03.489
dark things she got into later i remember that

01:41:03.489 --> 01:41:05.710
too there's really nothing substantial you can

01:41:05.710 --> 01:41:07.989
point to yeah and then a lot of people thought

01:41:07.989 --> 01:41:10.029
she had too much influence on the band for not

01:41:10.029 --> 01:41:12.869
being any type of a musical contributor she was

01:41:12.869 --> 01:41:15.829
yoko before yoko yeah she yeah that's where she

01:41:15.829 --> 01:41:18.789
got it yoko's like hey i want to be that yeah

01:41:20.430 --> 01:41:22.710
Dave Mustaine getting fired from Metallica in

01:41:22.710 --> 01:41:25.750
1983. Primarily, if you hear the band say, it's

01:41:25.750 --> 01:41:28.050
because he was a mean drunk. He said, we all

01:41:28.050 --> 01:41:30.029
get drunk, we're all happy and fun, and Dave

01:41:30.029 --> 01:41:34.970
was just mean. Yeah. But there were also conflicts

01:41:34.970 --> 01:41:37.170
over who was going to be the face of the band,

01:41:37.350 --> 01:41:42.510
who was going to be the prominent one, and they

01:41:42.510 --> 01:41:46.890
had their eye on Kirk Hamnett anyway. Yeah. Well,

01:41:47.090 --> 01:41:51.899
I mean... I think the whole band was surly. Yeah,

01:41:51.939 --> 01:41:54.539
I would say so. How do you tell who's mean and

01:41:54.539 --> 01:41:59.560
who's not? I know. Yeah, I mean, just watch some

01:41:59.560 --> 01:42:02.460
of their stuff that they admit. You're like,

01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:06.220
okay. So anyhow, it doesn't matter. Both of them

01:42:06.220 --> 01:42:09.380
did well. They did. All right, the rhythm section

01:42:09.380 --> 01:42:12.000
for Journey. Ross Valerie on bass and Steve Smith

01:42:12.000 --> 01:42:15.640
on drums. They were fired in 1985 during sessions

01:42:15.640 --> 01:42:18.449
for the Raised on Radio album. I always wondered

01:42:18.449 --> 01:42:20.829
why suddenly Steve Smith was out of the band.

01:42:21.189 --> 01:42:23.609
Yeah, me too. I never really got anything definitive,

01:42:23.850 --> 01:42:31.369
you know. Yeah. Okay. Rejoined in 1995 and then

01:42:31.369 --> 01:42:34.430
both booted again in 2000 when Neil Sean accused

01:42:34.430 --> 01:42:36.550
them of attempting to steal the rights to the

01:42:36.550 --> 01:42:39.750
Journey Navy. Oh, yeah. Yes. Yeah. Lawsuits were

01:42:39.750 --> 01:42:42.189
filed, countersuits were filed, and they eventually

01:42:42.189 --> 01:42:45.050
settled out of court. Yeah. And Ross Valerie's

01:42:45.050 --> 01:42:47.279
back in again. Yeah. Steve Smith, I don't think

01:42:47.279 --> 01:42:49.619
is. No, I don't think he is. Steve is like, I

01:42:49.619 --> 01:42:52.060
got a career outside you guys. I don't need this.

01:42:52.060 --> 01:42:54.680
Yeah, I'm not getting any of you. Steve Smith

01:42:54.680 --> 01:42:56.920
will never be hurting for work as long as he

01:42:56.920 --> 01:43:00.739
can wield a pair of drumsticks. Yeah, yeah, and

01:43:00.739 --> 01:43:04.619
I don't blame him. All right, next up, Alec John

01:43:04.619 --> 01:43:08.539
Such, bass player. Oh, Bon Jovi. Bon Jovi, fired

01:43:08.539 --> 01:43:14.159
in 1994 after five albums. John felt he wasn't

01:43:14.159 --> 01:43:16.659
keeping up with everyone else's playing. He wasn't

01:43:16.659 --> 01:43:20.840
evolving. He wasn't growing. And they would tell

01:43:20.840 --> 01:43:24.399
Alec, you've got to learn these new styles and

01:43:24.399 --> 01:43:26.220
these techniques. You've got to progress with

01:43:26.220 --> 01:43:28.899
everyone else. And he's like, screw that. That

01:43:28.899 --> 01:43:31.119
sounds like work. And I joined a band because

01:43:31.119 --> 01:43:33.340
I didn't want to ever have to work. I didn't

01:43:33.340 --> 01:43:35.659
realize that was part of it. Yeah, he said, I

01:43:35.659 --> 01:43:37.819
ain't woodshedding these things. I ain't getting

01:43:37.819 --> 01:43:40.359
any better. This is it. You know, I'm not working

01:43:40.359 --> 01:43:42.239
any harder to get any better than this. I love

01:43:42.239 --> 01:43:45.000
that. So they dumped him. I ain't doing it. That's

01:43:45.000 --> 01:43:50.420
a flat no. Yep. I love that. Nah, not interested.

01:43:51.859 --> 01:43:54.239
You'll know this one. Paul D 'Anno from Iron

01:43:54.239 --> 01:43:56.899
Maiden in the early 80s due to massive cocaine

01:43:56.899 --> 01:44:01.039
use. It needed to happen anyhow. Yeah, and he

01:44:01.039 --> 01:44:03.680
has said even getting fired is what saved his

01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:08.159
life. Yeah, yeah, until last year. Yeah. Yeah.

01:44:11.219 --> 01:44:15.000
Okay, that needed to happen. Yeah. Because they

01:44:15.000 --> 01:44:17.880
were not growing as a band at all. Yeah, they

01:44:17.880 --> 01:44:19.819
were kind of stagnant. Bruce Dickinson brought

01:44:19.819 --> 01:44:24.060
in all sorts of fresh new ideas and new avenues

01:44:24.060 --> 01:44:30.020
to write and base their stage show around. Yeah,

01:44:30.039 --> 01:44:32.939
and also the history that they like to tackle

01:44:32.939 --> 01:44:37.489
with Bruce Dickinson. Not Blaze Bailey, not Paul

01:44:37.489 --> 01:44:41.250
D 'Anno, but only Bruce Dickinson. So, yeah.

01:44:41.609 --> 01:44:45.189
And Eddie got cooler with Dickinson, too. That's

01:44:45.189 --> 01:44:48.569
true. Yeah, he got much cooler. Okay, got three

01:44:48.569 --> 01:44:52.390
more. Okay. Dave Abrazees, drummer for Pearl

01:44:52.390 --> 01:44:56.670
Jam, was fired in 1994 because he liked the rock

01:44:56.670 --> 01:44:59.810
and roll lifestyle a little too much, and the

01:44:59.810 --> 01:45:02.229
band was trying to maintain the image of shoegazers.

01:45:02.869 --> 01:45:05.750
Yes. Anti -establishment, we don't care, we're

01:45:05.750 --> 01:45:08.390
scared of shoes. Yeah. I remember at the time,

01:45:08.390 --> 01:45:12.250
Dave Eversies was signing endorsement deals with

01:45:12.250 --> 01:45:15.210
absolutely anybody that would have it. Drums,

01:45:15.229 --> 01:45:19.390
cymbals, hardware, drumsticks, drum heads, sports

01:45:19.390 --> 01:45:23.029
drinks, shoes, just on and on and on. He's like,

01:45:23.050 --> 01:45:25.649
sure, I'll put my name on anything. And he was

01:45:25.649 --> 01:45:28.270
like one of the original endorsement whores.

01:45:28.890 --> 01:45:31.010
And the band said, yeah, this doesn't fit who

01:45:31.010 --> 01:45:33.649
Pearl Jam is. You're Mr. Corporate Gimme More.

01:45:33.909 --> 01:45:37.590
Yeah, and we're anti that. So their original

01:45:37.590 --> 01:45:43.789
drummer was Jack Irons, who went and played as

01:45:43.789 --> 01:45:45.689
the original drummer for the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

01:45:45.989 --> 01:45:49.029
Oh, okay. But in both cases, he has such crushing

01:45:49.029 --> 01:45:52.029
anxiety, performance anxiety, that he can't handle

01:45:52.029 --> 01:45:58.079
touring. But that's who... No, wait, he wasn't

01:45:58.079 --> 01:46:00.199
the first drummer of Pearl Jam. That was Dave

01:46:00.199 --> 01:46:03.600
Kruzan. Yeah. It was Jack Irons was somebody

01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:06.220
that Eddie Vedder really wanted and always wanted.

01:46:06.399 --> 01:46:09.300
And as soon as the option came up to fire Dave,

01:46:09.539 --> 01:46:11.760
he did and he said, I want Jack Irons in the

01:46:11.760 --> 01:46:14.680
band. Yeah. And they made an album and about

01:46:14.680 --> 01:46:18.079
a third of a tour before Jack Irons just broke

01:46:18.079 --> 01:46:21.260
down and had to go home again. Yeah. And that

01:46:21.260 --> 01:46:23.159
finally cured Eddie. He's like, all right, this

01:46:23.159 --> 01:46:25.840
guy can't do it on the road. He's okay in the

01:46:25.840 --> 01:46:29.619
studio, but he can't handle it on the road. Kind

01:46:29.619 --> 01:46:32.260
of like Izzy Stradlin. Izzy Stradlin had the

01:46:32.260 --> 01:46:35.199
same issue. Yeah, that's true. Anyhow, go ahead.

01:46:35.800 --> 01:46:38.520
Darcy Retzke, the bass player for the Smashing

01:46:38.520 --> 01:46:42.680
Pumpkins. She was fired for having differing

01:46:42.680 --> 01:46:46.640
opinions on musical direction in songs, disappearing

01:46:46.640 --> 01:46:50.800
during recording sessions, and massive crack

01:46:50.800 --> 01:46:57.470
cocaine use. Billy Corgan called her a mean -spirited

01:46:57.470 --> 01:46:59.210
drug addict who refused to get enough. Darcy

01:46:59.210 --> 01:47:02.789
Redsky. Yeah, Darcy Redsky. Yeah, yeah. So here

01:47:02.789 --> 01:47:05.609
comes the condom back on the mic again. The wind

01:47:05.609 --> 01:47:09.510
is picking up. But I always thought she was a

01:47:09.510 --> 01:47:10.829
really good bass player. She was a really good

01:47:10.829 --> 01:47:12.010
bass player. And I liked the way she worked with

01:47:12.010 --> 01:47:14.409
the drummer and everything. I know. Again, just

01:47:14.409 --> 01:47:16.329
loved the rock guitar lifestyle a little too

01:47:16.329 --> 01:47:18.850
much. Supposedly didn't like panties too well

01:47:18.850 --> 01:47:22.020
either. Another Sharon Stone kind of thing. Yeah,

01:47:22.079 --> 01:47:24.899
yeah. Supposedly you look up on the stage and

01:47:24.899 --> 01:47:28.020
really look up on the stage. I remember the No

01:47:28.020 --> 01:47:31.600
Doubt's drummer would perform totally nude. Yeah.

01:47:31.840 --> 01:47:33.840
And since he was sitting behind his drums, you

01:47:33.840 --> 01:47:35.600
didn't necessarily notice. But when they started

01:47:35.600 --> 01:47:37.319
making music videos, like, you've got to get

01:47:37.319 --> 01:47:41.659
some pants on this guy. Yeah, come on. All right,

01:47:41.659 --> 01:47:43.359
and the last one I have, I remember this being

01:47:43.359 --> 01:47:47.949
a real big deal back in 1983. when singer Peter

01:47:47.949 --> 01:47:50.289
Wolfe was fired from the Jay Giles Band. Oh,

01:47:50.289 --> 01:47:53.069
yeah. And this was right after the big breakout

01:47:53.069 --> 01:47:57.430
album with Love Stinks and Centerfold and Freeze

01:47:57.430 --> 01:48:01.930
Frame. Yeah, Freeze Frame. Yeah. And he was an

01:48:01.930 --> 01:48:05.289
ex -DJ, which is why all the DJs around the world

01:48:05.289 --> 01:48:07.189
were so angry when he got fired from the band.

01:48:07.569 --> 01:48:10.270
Oh, yeah. But you know what the reason was? The

01:48:10.270 --> 01:48:15.020
band wanted to do techno pop. Oh. Wolf said,

01:48:15.140 --> 01:48:17.239
uh -uh. I ain't doing that. And they said, well,

01:48:17.260 --> 01:48:20.699
you're out. And where is Jake Isles now? Nowhere.

01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:24.739
Nowhere. I mean, they're not even like a tenth

01:48:24.739 --> 01:48:27.819
on a bill somewhere. I've never heard any kind

01:48:27.819 --> 01:48:30.119
of reunion. Well, Jake Isles himself left the

01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:33.119
band a little while after that. Yeah, it's pretty

01:48:33.119 --> 01:48:35.880
much over. It's been over. It's going to continue

01:48:35.880 --> 01:48:38.680
to be over. So that's my shocking band firings,

01:48:38.680 --> 01:48:41.979
and I've got a bunch of shocking... Or regrettable

01:48:41.979 --> 01:48:44.100
times that someone quit a band. Oh, yeah, yeah,

01:48:44.140 --> 01:48:46.500
let's hear that. This ought to be good. Tony

01:48:46.500 --> 01:48:49.720
Chapman, drummer for the Rolling Stones. He quit

01:48:49.720 --> 01:48:53.220
in 1962 because he thought that they were mistreating

01:48:53.220 --> 01:48:57.819
the blues. I actually remember a little bit of

01:48:57.819 --> 01:49:03.539
that. Yeah, like, okay. Great move there. Bob

01:49:03.539 --> 01:49:06.939
Welch, guitar player for Fleetwood Mac. He left

01:49:06.939 --> 01:49:09.340
in 1974 because he thought the band was just

01:49:09.340 --> 01:49:11.890
going nowhere. Well, I think it was with him.

01:49:11.989 --> 01:49:13.609
Pretty much. And they'd lost two other guitar

01:49:13.609 --> 01:49:17.470
players prior to that. But him leaving opened

01:49:17.470 --> 01:49:19.770
the way for Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks,

01:49:19.789 --> 01:49:21.729
which was what they needed. That's what they

01:49:21.729 --> 01:49:25.229
needed. And Bob Welch, he had a decent solo career,

01:49:25.289 --> 01:49:28.369
actually. I mean, he had a few good songs. Yeah,

01:49:28.409 --> 01:49:33.689
that's true. All right, two people quit Duran

01:49:33.689 --> 01:49:37.880
Duran. Stephen Duffy on vocals in 1979. and Jeff

01:49:37.880 --> 01:49:42.100
Thomas on vocals in 1981. Both of them were arguing

01:49:42.100 --> 01:49:44.699
with the other band members. They just couldn't

01:49:44.699 --> 01:49:46.420
get along. I would say it's the other band members,

01:49:46.500 --> 01:49:50.460
not them. Yeah. But after Jeff Thomas left, they

01:49:50.460 --> 01:49:53.619
got Simon Lebon, who became the face of Duran

01:49:53.619 --> 01:49:56.560
Duran. Yeah. So that worked out great for Duran

01:49:56.560 --> 01:49:59.939
Duran. Yeah, and he was a very charismatic lead

01:49:59.939 --> 01:50:04.039
singer also. He was. Michael Dempsey, bass player

01:50:04.039 --> 01:50:08.170
for The Cure, left. when they started working

01:50:08.170 --> 01:50:10.430
on a new album and he didn't like any of the

01:50:10.430 --> 01:50:13.770
songs. He's like, oh, no, I don't like any of

01:50:13.770 --> 01:50:16.430
these. This is the new album? No, I'm not playing

01:50:16.430 --> 01:50:19.430
these. So they said, well, okay, bye. They're

01:50:19.430 --> 01:50:21.310
like, okay, you don't have to anymore. There

01:50:21.310 --> 01:50:25.949
you go. Del Neal, a bass player, left The Killers

01:50:25.949 --> 01:50:29.109
for health reasons in 2002, right before they

01:50:29.109 --> 01:50:34.090
got Monstrous. Dick Evans. A guitar player left

01:50:34.090 --> 01:50:36.729
U2 in favor of his little brother, The Edge.

01:50:37.409 --> 01:50:40.189
Oh, okay. And at the time, he didn't think it

01:50:40.189 --> 01:50:41.810
was any big deal. He's like, I'm in a different

01:50:41.810 --> 01:50:43.350
band, too, and I think they're going to be bigger.

01:50:43.869 --> 01:50:46.149
So he let his little brother, The Edge, have

01:50:46.149 --> 01:50:50.390
the gig. Oops. Hopefully, The Edge pawned him

01:50:50.390 --> 01:50:53.050
a couple of... Maybe bought him a house. Yeah,

01:50:53.069 --> 01:50:55.630
something. I would buy him a house. I would,

01:50:55.649 --> 01:50:59.289
too. Okay, David Marks, the vocalist, left the

01:50:59.289 --> 01:51:03.029
Beach Boys in 1963 after a personality clash

01:51:03.029 --> 01:51:07.210
with manager Murray Wilson, who was Brian Wilson's

01:51:07.210 --> 01:51:10.229
and everybody else, every old Wilson boy's dad.

01:51:10.489 --> 01:51:13.470
He ran the band. And David Marks was like, yeah,

01:51:13.510 --> 01:51:21.010
you're not my dad. Okay, Kim Hill, a vocalist,

01:51:21.029 --> 01:51:23.890
left the Black Eyed Peas in the year 2000 because

01:51:23.890 --> 01:51:26.869
she couldn't get along with Will He Be. Oh wait,

01:51:26.930 --> 01:51:29.069
Will I Am, Will He Be. Will I Am, Will He Be.

01:51:29.090 --> 01:51:33.050
Will Him Be. Anyway, something like that. And

01:51:33.050 --> 01:51:34.949
she didn't like the way the music was going either.

01:51:35.109 --> 01:51:37.130
And they brought Fergie in. Yeah, they brought

01:51:37.130 --> 01:51:40.569
Fergie in. Mostly what she brought to it was

01:51:40.569 --> 01:51:43.729
visual appeal. Yes. That's about all she had.

01:51:43.850 --> 01:51:46.569
Because Kim Hill was an excellent vocalist. And

01:51:46.569 --> 01:51:50.909
Fergie wasn't any better. No. No. But I guess

01:51:50.909 --> 01:51:53.750
she's more fun to look at for the audience members.

01:51:54.909 --> 01:51:57.869
Okay, John Berry, guitar player, left the Beastie

01:51:57.869 --> 01:52:01.810
Boys in 1982, 83, somewhere around there. He

01:52:01.810 --> 01:52:03.949
lost interest in the band and just stopped showing

01:52:03.949 --> 01:52:07.289
up. Like everyone else. Yeah. And he was the

01:52:07.289 --> 01:52:10.590
one who prompted two of the existing members

01:52:10.590 --> 01:52:14.449
of the Beastie Boys to keep going and learn new

01:52:14.449 --> 01:52:17.130
stuff and, hey, don't drop, keep playing your

01:52:17.130 --> 01:52:19.390
instrument, keep learning the new. So he was

01:52:19.390 --> 01:52:22.090
a big mover and shaker for the Beastie Boys to

01:52:22.090 --> 01:52:24.710
continue being, you know. breakthrough and try

01:52:24.710 --> 01:52:27.810
to get success but he ran out of interest before

01:52:27.810 --> 01:52:31.550
they ever got there that's funny isn't it we're

01:52:31.550 --> 01:52:34.750
you just quit you guys can do this come on just

01:52:34.750 --> 01:52:39.649
not with me may not at all i'm gonna go into

01:52:39.649 --> 01:52:42.329
uh engineering but uh you guys keep doing you

01:52:42.329 --> 01:52:45.630
can do this and another one just like him tracy

01:52:45.630 --> 01:52:49.560
guns guitar player for guns and roses He left

01:52:49.560 --> 01:52:52.939
a year before Appetite Destruction became monstrous

01:52:52.939 --> 01:52:54.960
because he just lost interest and quit showing

01:52:54.960 --> 01:52:58.079
up for rehearsals. He formed L .A. Guns after

01:52:58.079 --> 01:53:02.479
that. Supposedly he had a lot of personal conflicts

01:53:02.479 --> 01:53:13.779
with Axl and Duff. I think it was Duff. He had

01:53:13.779 --> 01:53:17.579
some problems with both of them. you know, they

01:53:17.579 --> 01:53:20.239
just couldn't get along. Yeah. So, yeah, and

01:53:20.239 --> 01:53:22.460
he was going to quit music at one point, but

01:53:22.460 --> 01:53:25.140
then he decided to, he got with Phil Lewis and

01:53:25.140 --> 01:53:26.899
a couple other guys and said, you know, and they

01:53:26.899 --> 01:53:29.439
formed LA Guns, who had some reasonable success.

01:53:29.560 --> 01:53:33.539
They did. They did. Okay, guitar player Eric

01:53:33.539 --> 01:53:37.659
Stefani left No Doubt right before Tragic Kingdom

01:53:37.659 --> 01:53:40.199
was released. Oh. So he was on the album with

01:53:40.199 --> 01:53:44.140
his little sister Gwen Stefani. Yeah, okay. But

01:53:44.140 --> 01:53:48.539
before the album was released, He dropped out

01:53:48.539 --> 01:53:51.520
of the band. He wanted to be reggae. He loved

01:53:51.520 --> 01:53:53.939
reggae. That's all he wanted to play. And No

01:53:53.939 --> 01:53:56.380
Doubt was kind of turning rock and roll. He's

01:53:56.380 --> 01:53:58.340
like, I really don't want to do this. I don't

01:53:58.340 --> 01:54:01.119
want to play rock and roll. I don't want to record

01:54:01.119 --> 01:54:03.180
it. I don't want a rock and roll lifestyle. The

01:54:03.180 --> 01:54:06.979
blonde cutesy singer. They wanted to take advantage

01:54:06.979 --> 01:54:10.300
of that. I get it. And a lot of people have whispered

01:54:10.300 --> 01:54:13.989
behind the scenes that... The enormous number

01:54:13.989 --> 01:54:16.970
of breakup songs on Tragic Kingdom, because Wes

01:54:16.970 --> 01:54:19.649
Stefani and the bass player, I forget his name,

01:54:19.770 --> 01:54:24.829
Tony or Tay, they had broken up. And half the

01:54:24.829 --> 01:54:27.270
songs on that album were about the breakup, and

01:54:27.270 --> 01:54:29.529
Eric was like... And they were both good friends,

01:54:29.550 --> 01:54:32.210
too, afterwards and all that, yeah. But behind

01:54:32.210 --> 01:54:34.029
the scenes, people said Eric thought that that

01:54:34.029 --> 01:54:37.029
was just a huge mistake. Turned out to be a great,

01:54:37.130 --> 01:54:40.069
really successful album, but Eric thought, yeah,

01:54:40.090 --> 01:54:42.399
this is just bad news. And I really don't want

01:54:42.399 --> 01:54:45.960
to do this anyway, so off he went. Okay, John

01:54:45.960 --> 01:54:50.720
Kiffmeyer, drummer for Green Day. He left after

01:54:50.720 --> 01:54:54.359
the debut album called 39 Smooth because he wanted

01:54:54.359 --> 01:54:57.539
to go to college. Oh, wow. And while he was gone,

01:54:57.619 --> 01:54:59.760
Trey Cool took his place and never left. Never

01:54:59.760 --> 01:55:02.260
left. He's like, yeah, you ain't getting your

01:55:02.260 --> 01:55:06.699
job back. I hope he got a real nice degree. I

01:55:06.699 --> 01:55:12.340
hope so, too. Okay, Angus McLeese, drummer for

01:55:12.340 --> 01:55:15.640
the Velvet Underground, he left right before

01:55:15.640 --> 01:55:19.260
their first ever gig because he thought the band

01:55:19.260 --> 01:55:22.460
was selling out. They weren't. They were the

01:55:22.460 --> 01:55:23.899
Velvet Underground. They weren't selling out.

01:55:23.899 --> 01:55:26.640
They were not selling out. But, you know, right

01:55:26.640 --> 01:55:28.699
before the gig, he's like, yeah, guys, I'm out

01:55:28.699 --> 01:55:32.739
because you're all commercials. And they're all

01:55:32.739 --> 01:55:35.260
looking at each other. And you know what? I've

01:55:35.260 --> 01:55:37.819
never heard of Angus McLeese again. And probably

01:55:37.819 --> 01:55:39.500
nobody wanted to hire him because he was a quitter.

01:55:39.840 --> 01:55:43.899
Yep. All right, here's an interesting one. Jeff

01:55:43.899 --> 01:55:48.399
Jones, the original bass player for Rush. I bet

01:55:48.399 --> 01:55:51.600
you never heard of him. No. He and Alex Lifeson

01:55:51.600 --> 01:55:55.100
were childhood friends, and they got together

01:55:55.100 --> 01:56:00.159
first to form Rush. But Jeff Jones left in 1968.

01:56:02.399 --> 01:56:04.739
He said it was too long of a commute to band

01:56:04.739 --> 01:56:06.859
practice. It would take him like two hours to

01:56:06.859 --> 01:56:09.710
get there. And the gig. You know, the gigs were

01:56:09.710 --> 01:56:13.510
just as far away. And he found this other bass

01:56:13.510 --> 01:56:15.369
player who lived just around the corner from

01:56:15.369 --> 01:56:17.109
Alex named Geddy Lee. And he said, why don't

01:56:17.109 --> 01:56:19.310
you use him? This is too far of a drive for me.

01:56:19.350 --> 01:56:23.229
Why don't you just use Geddy and your band? And

01:56:23.229 --> 01:56:29.970
I'm sure Alex was like, fuck. You get a gift.

01:56:30.270 --> 01:56:32.789
And when Neil Peart showed up for his audition,

01:56:33.029 --> 01:56:37.029
Alex and Geddy thought his car was pretty uncool.

01:56:37.630 --> 01:56:39.710
and their first impression was, this guy's not

01:56:39.710 --> 01:56:42.229
cool enough to play with us. Oh, yeah. But then

01:56:42.229 --> 01:56:43.789
he set up and started playing, and they're like,

01:56:43.869 --> 01:56:46.989
oh, yes, you are. We don't care. You're plenty

01:56:46.989 --> 01:56:52.109
cool. Yeah. All right. Vocalist Terry Luttrell

01:56:52.109 --> 01:56:56.590
left REO Speedwagon in 1971 after, what, one

01:56:56.590 --> 01:56:59.670
or two albums? Couldn't get along with Gary Richrath,

01:56:59.689 --> 01:57:02.649
their primary songwriter. Wow. Which is why the

01:57:02.649 --> 01:57:04.569
original recording of Riding the Storm Out is

01:57:04.569 --> 01:57:07.449
not Kevin Cronin on vocals. No. It's Terry Luttrell.

01:57:07.670 --> 01:57:10.789
But Kevin Cronin replaced him and then never

01:57:10.789 --> 01:57:12.869
left. And actually, I mean, they do sound very

01:57:12.869 --> 01:57:18.449
similar, too. They do. Yeah, they do. Terry Glaze,

01:57:18.489 --> 01:57:25.189
a singer, left Pantera in 1986 because he wanted

01:57:25.189 --> 01:57:29.800
to stay glam. Yeah, and Pantera went, too. Their

01:57:29.800 --> 01:57:32.220
next album after dumping him was Cowboys from

01:57:32.220 --> 01:57:35.039
Hell. And also... That was such an album. They

01:57:35.039 --> 01:57:38.180
needed Phil and Samo anyhow. Yeah. I mean, it

01:57:38.180 --> 01:57:40.579
was a perfect marriage. Without Phil and Samo,

01:57:40.600 --> 01:57:43.800
they got their sound. Yeah. Kind of like when

01:57:43.800 --> 01:57:46.119
Disturbed got their vocalist. Yeah. Who was just

01:57:46.119 --> 01:57:48.020
some guy who showed up their gig and would get

01:57:48.020 --> 01:57:50.380
up on stage and start ad -libbing. Yeah. They're

01:57:50.380 --> 01:57:52.119
like, this guy's pretty dang good. Yeah, they're

01:57:52.119 --> 01:57:55.720
like, I'll keep him. Yeah, yeah. And that was

01:57:55.720 --> 01:57:58.060
the best thing Pantera could have done. Because

01:57:58.060 --> 01:58:00.449
they couldn't... They couldn't make it glam.

01:58:00.529 --> 01:58:02.729
They weren't even close to making it glam. And

01:58:02.729 --> 01:58:06.390
they're like, you know, hey. But, I mean, obviously,

01:58:06.630 --> 01:58:09.850
I mean, could you see them doing anything else

01:58:09.850 --> 01:58:15.710
after they did that? And then Niall Quinn, vocalist

01:58:15.710 --> 01:58:19.270
for the Cranberries, left in 1990 because he

01:58:19.270 --> 01:58:21.350
wanted to play drums in a punk band called The

01:58:21.350 --> 01:58:24.279
Hitchers. and left the door open for Dolores

01:58:24.279 --> 01:58:29.239
O 'Riordan, who made that band. Her vocals were

01:58:29.239 --> 01:58:33.340
nuts. God, she was talented. Yeah, and she didn't

01:58:33.340 --> 01:58:35.880
even really mean to do that type of a vocal.

01:58:35.899 --> 01:58:38.359
It looked like it came so easy for her. Just

01:58:38.359 --> 01:58:41.100
the emotion and the power just flowed out of

01:58:41.100 --> 01:58:43.600
her. And if she hadn't been such a raging alcoholic,

01:58:43.739 --> 01:58:46.899
she would have made so much more awesome music.

01:58:47.119 --> 01:58:51.779
But she died really young. You know, the alcoholism

01:58:51.779 --> 01:58:53.859
pretty much kept her from making any new material.

01:58:53.880 --> 01:58:55.800
She just kind of coasted on the cranberry stuff.

01:58:55.960 --> 01:58:59.020
But, man, what a shame. No, it is. She had so

01:58:59.020 --> 01:59:02.220
much more to offer. That voice of hers. Just

01:59:02.220 --> 01:59:04.060
still gives me chills to listen to her sing.

01:59:04.140 --> 01:59:05.800
Zombie is one of my favorites. Zombie, yeah.

01:59:06.100 --> 01:59:10.960
And that's where you get the, what would you

01:59:10.960 --> 01:59:14.399
call it? The rasp that comes back. Yeah, the

01:59:14.399 --> 01:59:16.560
snarl and the rasp and that little voice break

01:59:16.560 --> 01:59:19.239
that she did, which was kind of an Irish. Yeah.

01:59:20.839 --> 01:59:23.619
ethnic singing kind of thing is traditional for

01:59:23.619 --> 01:59:25.500
Irish songs. Incorporating that into that type

01:59:25.500 --> 01:59:30.439
of music, insane. Damn, if only she had been

01:59:30.439 --> 01:59:35.100
a drinker. Yeah. What a shame. Yeah, true. All

01:59:35.100 --> 01:59:37.880
right, my last one I have is Randall Curtis Hogan,

01:59:38.020 --> 01:59:40.760
who nobody's ever heard of, but he performed

01:59:40.760 --> 01:59:44.899
on the stage named Xeno, X -E -N -O, the original

01:59:44.899 --> 01:59:49.420
singer for Cheap Trick. Isn't that weird? That

01:59:49.420 --> 01:59:53.619
is. He left in 1974 to join a glam band called

01:59:53.619 --> 01:59:55.960
Straight Up because they were going to pay him

01:59:55.960 --> 01:59:59.800
more. Oh, wow. They paid him $250 a week. And

01:59:59.800 --> 02:00:05.079
he left Cheap Trick for $250 a week. That's $12

02:00:05.079 --> 02:00:08.859
,000 a year. Oh, yeah. That's it. But then again,

02:00:09.199 --> 02:00:11.220
I mean, without Rob and Xander, would they have

02:00:11.220 --> 02:00:13.180
ever made it like they did? I don't think so.

02:00:13.239 --> 02:00:14.520
I don't think they would have either. I really

02:00:14.520 --> 02:00:18.000
don't. But still, it was a stupid move. Yeah.

02:00:18.020 --> 02:00:20.300
He didn't know what he had, obviously. Yeah.

02:00:22.460 --> 02:00:25.680
Wow. So that's what I got. We're coming up on

02:00:25.680 --> 02:00:28.239
two hours anyway. All right. I guess we're pretty

02:00:28.239 --> 02:00:30.220
much finished here. Hey, man, thank you, everybody,

02:00:30.319 --> 02:00:32.500
for listening. We really appreciate you. You're

02:00:32.500 --> 02:00:34.699
the best. You're the best. Yeah, we hope you

02:00:34.699 --> 02:00:36.239
have a great afternoon, and go fuck yourself.

02:00:38.119 --> 02:00:41.659
Oh, no. Looks like the show's over, kids. Mark

02:00:41.659 --> 02:00:44.720
has explosive diarrhea and can't afford a wireless

02:00:44.720 --> 02:00:48.340
mic. Fear not, assholes. They'll be back invading

02:00:48.340 --> 02:00:49.279
your ear holes soon.