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All right, shift record, got it. All right. See,

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how long have we been doing this and I'm still

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figuring it out? Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. This

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here, you're going to find out who we are here

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in a minute. Yeah. Yeah, so. Here we go. We are

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the music. Grapes. Wait. Okay, I'll last a little

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bit longer. That's why I went on. Did you notice

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I went on for a while? Yep. I'm like, I'll make

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this last a little bit. I do the scratching and

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it always kills you. Oh, I know. And I do it

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so badly. I should expect it by now. Yeah, something

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you want to go into. I got some bullet points.

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Did you want to cover Ozzy here real quick? Absolutely.

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Okay, well, you know. That's kind of the big

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story. Yeah. I pose this question, and I do believe

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this to be true, and then I'll go into a little

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bit of Ozzy's bio like I did on the other podcast.

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Okay. I think, you know what, I'll go into that

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after the bio, okay? Okay. Because it's a very

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valid question, and I want to hear your opinion

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on it. Okay, Ozzy was unceremoniously fired from

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Black Sabbath back in 1979 for drug and alcohol

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abuse. Hadn't they already started the next album?

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They had Dio in there already. I think they already

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wrote Children of the Sea. Or was in the making.

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Yeah. They had a studio room, I guess, from what

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I read that Ozzy didn't know about. But the point

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I'm getting at is they were all cokeheads and

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everything else. Yeah. Okay? And he was so excessive

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that these drug addicts had to fire him. Yeah,

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that's pretty bad when drug addicts say, you're

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out of control. Yeah, you're out of control.

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They're fucked up. They're like, that guy. That

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guy right there. You're worse than us, so you're

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going. Yeah. And also, I think there was probably...

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some friction maybe. Yeah, I remember at the

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time them saying they just couldn't get Ozzy

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to work with him and do anything and he was unreliable.

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Yeah, that was it. He was always fucking off

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somewhere. And, you know, Sharon really drove

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his career after that. But before that, he didn't

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have Sharon. He had Thelma. And Thelma was always

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at home. Yeah. So, which coincidentally, I did

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not see any of them at the funeral. No. Weren't

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his kids from his first marriage there? I thought

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they were. But nobody said anything about them,

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which I would figure someone would say something.

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Yeah, that is odd. Well, Thelma maybe not, because

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I think Ozzy was kind of seeing Sharon while

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he was still with Thelma, according to his own

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book. Yeah, there was definitely some overlap

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there. There was some overlap. So I could see

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her not doing it, you know. So anyhow, he was

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supposed to be nothing. He was trash. People

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were like, oh my God, you know this guy, we're

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going to find him in the obituaries here. Yeah,

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nobody expected Ozzy to do anything except drink

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himself to death. So that's when Sharon Arden,

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Don Arden, the manager of Black Sabbath, took

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notice to him romantically and also professionally.

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And that probably saved him because somebody

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who wasn't in love with him at the same time

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would have just screwed him over. Yes. Because

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he would have been so easy to take advantage

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of. Oh, yeah, yeah. Here, sign this. Oh, okay.

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Yeah. So, all right. She saw this walking controversy

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is what I call it. Yeah. So his first one is

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he's going into CBS slash Jet Records and he's

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trying to secure a deal that Sharon had set up.

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She gave him two dubs, one for each pocket. She

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said, all right, Ozzy, you go in there. And when

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you start looking at these people, release each

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dub in the air as a sign of peace. Well, he was

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a little fuckered up. Yeah. And he decided to

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bite the head off both of them. The people in

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that boardroom were not impressed. No, I don't

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think so. They almost didn't hire him. They kind

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of put it on hold. The uppers were going, wait

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a minute, wait a minute. What did he do? He bit

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the head off two dubs. You think he's going to

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do this all the time? Yeah, hire him. Absolutely.

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Yeah. You see the reaction everyone got from

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it? Yeah, this guy is a walking controversy.

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Yeah. He's not expected to do anything, so they

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probably got him on a pretty good deal, too.

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Yeah, I think so. So Sharon was seeing what was

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going on in L .A., and she was like, you know

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what? This is cool, Sabbath, but we have this

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new push that was derived from this music here.

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This is a new thing in L .A. And Ozzy's best

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friend, Dana Strum, or one of his best friends

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at the time, Dana Strum, Slaughter, Vince Neal,

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a lot of other groups. He was in a lot of stuff

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that people didn't know. He was also a really

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good studio musician. Dana Strum, very good bassist.

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So he said, hey, I know this guy that you've

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got to meet. His name's Randy Rhodes. Randy Rhoads

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and A. Van Halen were the big slinging dicks

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in L .A. Yeah. And there's a lot of controversy,

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although Bluegrass, as far as I know, invented

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finger tapping. Yeah. A long time ago. And before

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that, it was like, maybe it made its presence

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in folk or mid -eastern. But maybe not with a

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guitar, like a dulcimer. Yeah, there's a hammered

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dulcimer. Yes. And I think that's kind of where

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somebody got the idea of messing around with

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that. Because you're already hammering on it.

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Yeah, but the new style. It's argued the LA style

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of finger tapping with the distortion and all

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that. Yeah. Was it Randy Rhodes or was it A.

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Van Halen that discovered that and brought it

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to new life? Some still say it was Alan Holdsworth.

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I think it was too. Yeah. But nobody did it like

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Andy and Randy. No, that's what they're talking

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about, the note bending on it and all that. So

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the note bending and all that kind of made it

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different. It was the same idea, but the sound.

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Yeah, it was worked in so musically and is such

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an integral part of the song that it wasn't just,

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oh, cool, look what he can do. It was like, no,

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this is part of the song. They carried melodies

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with it, which nobody ever thought of before.

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Before it was a trick. It's like, hey, that's

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cool. It's like, hey, wait on. Wait a minute,

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wait a minute. This guy is playing part of the

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melody of the song doing that. And he can play

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it the other way. It's like the drummer spinning

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his sticks, but in doing so plays a really awesome

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drum part that you couldn't play without spinning

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it. It's like, oh, okay, that's not just for

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show. Yeah. And people that knew knew, and people

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that didn't didn't. Yeah. You know, people that

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love music and analyze it was going, what in

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the hell are they doing? Yeah. So, and Eddie

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Van Halen used to turn around because he didn't

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want people copying his shit. Yeah, yeah. Because

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it's copycat town. Oh, yeah. And they did. But,

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I mean, you know, have people like Nuno Bettencourt

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that made it their own. And, I mean, he learned

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all of Jakey Lee's stuff in the limo headed to

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back to the beginning. There's video of him.

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And he made a couple of fuck -ups out there.

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And everybody just, like, looked over and went,

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okay. Whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's still

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great. And him bowing to Jakey Lee was so cool.

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It was so classy. Because, obviously, he's better

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now at this stage. He could have been like, yeah,

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I played it right. Instead, he's like, no, this

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guy, he is a forethought. So, okay, Ozzy's supposed

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to be dead in the water, so they hire him. And

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Sharon went around and picked up this all -star

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band. Lee Kerslake on drums, amazing drummer.

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And Bob Daisley, who will never get the credit

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he deserves. I've got to get you his book. You've

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got to read that book. Yeah, I'd like to. Oh,

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my gosh. He has so many bands. Uriah Heep, Rainbow.

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Blizzard of Oz. He was in so many bands and never

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really got the credit. He was a songwriter so

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heavy that a lot of the classic tunes that you've

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heard, he basically wrote. So there's influence

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from other people like Randy Rhoads or Jakey

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Lee or Uriah Heep or whoever, but he basically

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wrote it. So we come out with this all -star

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lineup, and it was a hit. Smash hit. People are

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going, oh my gosh, you know, so. Anyhow, he goes

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on, and then Randy is tragically killed. So Sharon

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went out on an all -out search and found the

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right guy, which was Jakey Lee, and the right

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guy was not the guy that looked and acted like

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Randy and played like him. It was a guy that

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played more chords and melodic than he did the

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fast classical version. He was more blues -based,

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and it worked perfectly. It was different music,

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but the music had to turn anyhow because LAC

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turned. And when they did that, they hired producers

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like Ron Nevison to give them that smoother LA

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sound. So it goes on. So Ozzy said all along

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he was supposed to probably die before he was

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40. You're talking about a guy that did so many

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drugs that in 1992, I believe it was, they had

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the No More Tours. And that was because he was

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so, so messed up. He did so many drugs and alcohol

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that the doctor told him that he had AIDS. So

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he comes back, I got AIDS. Okay, well, we're

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going to do a final tour. Say goodbye. Well,

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because another doctor, when he's not doing so

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many drugs, the doctor said, you don't have AIDS.

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What? Everything was already in motion. And I

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thought it was always suspicious that... This

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is Sandstone, the first one of that leg. He went

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by like three times there. The first leg of it,

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they were giving away condoms at the door. At

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Sandstone Gate. I'm like, what is this about?

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It's an AIDS thing. Yes. So, anyhow, he went

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on to do great things, obviously. I could keep

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going on, but I mean, we have a lot of stuff

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we have to talk about. If you want to know the

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full story, it's on... The podcast is dedicated

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to the Prince of Darkness. Yeah. I've got the

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full bio there of all the high points. So, you

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know, it's not a surprise. Were you surprised

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when you heard it? No. No. I mean, you could

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tell. He was extremely weak. He was not well.

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He had to be strapped in because he's uncontrolled.

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Yeah. I want to clear up a fallacy right now,

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though, that people don't know. Ozzy did not

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have Parkinson's since 2013. He had Park disease.

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Oh, okay. Park syndrome. Okay. It's similar,

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but it's very well controlled with medicine.

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He supposedly contracted super Parkinson's because

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of a combination of unfortunate events. It started

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back in 2004, 2005 with the wreck. The ATV accident

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that almost killed him. Yeah. And he had to have

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his spine basically redone. Yeah. He'd never

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been the same after that. So in 2019, he was

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at his L .A. mansion. He had a lot of steps in

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it. And he was waking up for something. He was

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still asleep. He fell down the stairs and he

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re -injured himself. Oh, yeah. They supposedly

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got a doctor that said your only alternative

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is surgery when they didn't know that. He didn't

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have to have surgery. He could have just let

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it be. So he had the selective surgery that was

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supposed to make him better, but it wasn't. So

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then he had another surgery to amend the surgery

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before. That didn't work. Then they found a tumor

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in his spine that they had to go back in and

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dig out. Lord. He had Park syndrome. He had a

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variety of other health issues because of his

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age and living style. Yeah. All of these combined

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together to give him super Parkinson's, which

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is brutal. Yeah, yeah. Regular Parkinson's, ugly

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enough. Yes. But instead of it taking ten years,

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eight years, it took like a year, two years.

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Well, when did they announce it? 2022? I think

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so. Three years, basically. Yeah. Okay, so it

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sped it up. It did, yeah. And so what you had

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there was a guy that was rapidly dying, and what

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was supposed to be a farewell concert was really

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a farewell concert. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because

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people were expecting that, you know, in the

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next year or two, he'd put out more music and

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do more collabs and stuff. Yeah, he already would

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talk to Jakey Lee. Jakey Lee was, like, putting

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all over social media. He was stoked. He could

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not wait to do another song or two with Ozzy.

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And people like me and Davey were stoked. And

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I told this story because this really got me.

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Davey and I were texting, and I told him, I said,

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hey, look at this article. It's about Jakey Lee

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wanting to, you know, stoke. And I'm like, I'm

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not sure if it's real. Davey sent me back a message

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going, no, it's real. He goes, look at this.

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This is pictures of him on an interview and all

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that. And this is like, and there's a link to

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a video that somebody did talking to him after

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the show. And he said, yeah, he goes, we've talked

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and we're going to definitely do a song or two.

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And then while I was in the doctor's office with

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my mom, I had to have my phone off. I come out.

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Okay. And all I hear, and I, my friend Dave.

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from Stockton and Davey both text me at the same

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time, or I think it's when I was in the doctor's

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office. And one of them, I just caught the back

00:13:44.149 --> 00:13:46.049
of it, the one that Dave sent me, the guy I worked

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with for many years, said, sorry to hear about

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Ozzy. Love you, brother. Thought of you when

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it happened. I'm like, what? And then I see Davey

00:13:54.509 --> 00:13:56.909
saying, well, it's not going to happen now, RIP.

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I'm like, fuck. So then I hit the wires everywhere.

00:14:02.889 --> 00:14:05.350
Yeah, I mean, it was really weird the way I found

00:14:05.350 --> 00:14:09.129
it, you know, and I was like, wow. Anyhow, we

00:14:09.129 --> 00:14:11.169
can go on to other things because this is well

00:14:11.169 --> 00:14:14.730
covered in the tribute episode. If you want to

00:14:14.730 --> 00:14:17.570
hear more, do it there. Okay. Oh, I have one

00:14:17.570 --> 00:14:21.929
question for you. Yeah. Ozzy was bigger than

00:14:21.929 --> 00:14:25.730
the Beatles. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, definitely.

00:14:25.929 --> 00:14:29.230
Yeah. They've inspired more musicians, more bands,

00:14:29.370 --> 00:14:36.480
more song. music styles. It's hard to think of

00:14:36.480 --> 00:14:40.379
somebody who had a bigger influence than Ozzy.

00:14:42.440 --> 00:14:45.340
Everybody. You didn't meet one person that didn't

00:14:45.340 --> 00:14:48.159
like him. They may not have liked Sharon, but

00:14:48.159 --> 00:14:50.779
they loved him as a person. Same with Jakey Lee.

00:14:50.899 --> 00:14:52.899
He didn't really care for Sharon that much, but

00:14:52.899 --> 00:14:57.929
he loved Ozzy. Anyhow, well Gene Simmons had

00:14:57.929 --> 00:14:59.750
a really good article that you need to read if

00:14:59.750 --> 00:15:03.289
you're inclined to. Sure. But okay, he said it

00:15:03.289 --> 00:15:06.129
like this. He said Ozzy, they're going around

00:15:06.129 --> 00:15:09.269
and he never had to use his rough voice like

00:15:09.269 --> 00:15:11.490
Gene Simmons did like everyone else. Ozzy used

00:15:11.490 --> 00:15:15.350
his regular voice to sing. That was unique. Alone,

00:15:15.509 --> 00:15:18.389
just using that. Yeah. Everyone has to put on

00:15:18.389 --> 00:15:21.090
this facade voice or this singing voice. He never

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did. And number two, we're going around and they

00:15:23.990 --> 00:15:25.730
were at a banquet dinner and they were sat next

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to each other and they were chatting and they

00:15:27.269 --> 00:15:28.750
really didn't get to know each other that well

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until that night. Gene Simmons describes it very

00:15:31.389 --> 00:15:34.590
well. You know, he's an intelligent guy. And

00:15:34.590 --> 00:15:37.330
he said, you know, and he goes, everyone else

00:15:37.330 --> 00:15:39.289
is like, hey, who's your favorite bands and all

00:15:39.289 --> 00:15:40.669
this stuff. And everyone's like, you know, trying

00:15:40.669 --> 00:15:46.210
to come up with these, I don't know, like, throw

00:15:46.210 --> 00:15:48.570
me under Dream Theater and all these complex

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bands, Rush or something. And he goes, oh, I'm

00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:57.639
really into ABBA. And Gene Simmons is like, this

00:15:57.639 --> 00:16:01.580
guy is real. He is. Genuine guy. Yeah. He's not

00:16:01.580 --> 00:16:03.840
trying to impress me, but who he's into. Yeah,

00:16:03.860 --> 00:16:07.120
he gave everybody the same opportunity on stage

00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:09.679
using his equipment, his sound and stuff. He

00:16:09.679 --> 00:16:11.240
just said, do you want to play extra? I don't

00:16:11.240 --> 00:16:13.759
give a shit. I'll be back here. The Us Festival,

00:16:13.919 --> 00:16:17.299
the bands were talking about, it was Bon Jovi

00:16:17.299 --> 00:16:21.649
and Motley Crue. And this is on, don't blame

00:16:21.649 --> 00:16:25.909
me, Aussie video from 1994, I believe. It's a

00:16:25.909 --> 00:16:29.450
huge video of basically his life up until then,

00:16:29.470 --> 00:16:33.590
his career. Yeah. And Aussie modeler, both Motley

00:16:33.590 --> 00:16:35.889
and Bon Jovi are talking to each other, you know,

00:16:35.889 --> 00:16:38.370
having clips of it. Bon Jovi's going, yeah, us

00:16:38.370 --> 00:16:40.470
and Motley are arguing over who is going to take.

00:16:41.279 --> 00:16:43.539
the main show, who was going to have the, you

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know, and who was going to be the follow -up.

00:16:45.019 --> 00:16:48.740
And Ozzy, he walks up there to whoever was in

00:16:48.740 --> 00:16:50.460
control of it, and he goes, put me anywhere,

00:16:50.559 --> 00:16:53.700
I don't care. And he said that the other two

00:16:53.700 --> 00:16:57.299
bands, Bon Jovi and Motley, are going, shit,

00:16:57.600 --> 00:17:00.279
people were leaving after him. Yep. Yeah, and

00:17:00.279 --> 00:17:01.879
they said that was the worst mistake we could

00:17:01.879 --> 00:17:04.480
have made. Yep. Nobody gave a shit after Ozzy.

00:17:04.539 --> 00:17:06.660
Both of them said it. Nikki Sixx said it, and

00:17:06.660 --> 00:17:08.960
Jon Bon Jovi both said it. They're like, he blew

00:17:08.960 --> 00:17:12.440
us away. And it wouldn't daylight. There was

00:17:12.440 --> 00:17:15.339
a summer concert in Kansas City many years back.

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It was Steve Miller Band opening for Peter Frampton.

00:17:18.940 --> 00:17:21.279
Yes. And after Steve Miller finished playing,

00:17:21.380 --> 00:17:23.880
about half the people left. And Frampton was

00:17:23.880 --> 00:17:27.259
so pissed. And I don't think he's been back to

00:17:27.259 --> 00:17:31.640
Kansas City since. No big loss. Yeah. Are you

00:17:31.640 --> 00:17:34.119
talking about Little Guy? Yeah. Yeah, little

00:17:34.119 --> 00:17:38.059
guy, Pamela DeBarn, I think. Smallest penis ever.

00:17:38.180 --> 00:17:41.279
Yeah, that's what she said. No wonder he's angry.

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The one thing I wanted to mention about the whole

00:17:45.019 --> 00:17:48.119
Ozzy back to the beginnings thing is I think

00:17:48.119 --> 00:17:51.940
the one misstep that Sharon made in the whole

00:17:51.940 --> 00:17:56.059
thing was that live stream. I agree. Which wasn't

00:17:56.059 --> 00:17:58.519
a live stream. It was on a two -hour delay. Yeah.

00:17:58.559 --> 00:18:00.240
So the fact that they were calling it a live

00:18:00.240 --> 00:18:04.720
stream means they're lying to us. Plus... If

00:18:04.720 --> 00:18:07.140
you were listening to live stream, didn't Ozzy

00:18:07.140 --> 00:18:09.960
have this weird robotic -sounding voice? And

00:18:09.960 --> 00:18:11.799
I remember Sharon in advance saying, don't worry

00:18:11.799 --> 00:18:13.640
about Ozzy's voice. It just kind of is what it

00:18:13.640 --> 00:18:16.640
is. It's what it has to be. Well, what she did

00:18:16.640 --> 00:18:19.160
was, I mean, if you were in the stadium listening,

00:18:19.440 --> 00:18:22.680
everything you heard was genuine and real. This

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is from the video channel of the guy who exposes

00:18:26.279 --> 00:18:29.559
everybody for backing tracks and the auto -tune

00:18:29.559 --> 00:18:32.180
and that stuff. He said, everything in the stadium

00:18:32.180 --> 00:18:35.480
was genuine and real. When you watch the live

00:18:35.480 --> 00:18:38.099
stream, you're also hearing everything that everyone

00:18:38.099 --> 00:18:40.660
in the stadium heard, except they've taken Ozzy's

00:18:40.660 --> 00:18:44.059
voice, pitch corrected it up a half step, and

00:18:44.059 --> 00:18:46.880
overlaid it on top of his existing vocals. So

00:18:46.880 --> 00:18:49.720
you're hearing Ozzy's voice twice, a half step

00:18:49.720 --> 00:18:52.500
apart. And that's what made it sound so weird.

00:18:53.240 --> 00:18:55.660
And that was the misstep, is she didn't even

00:18:55.660 --> 00:18:58.900
need to do that. Ozzy's voice was just fine.

00:18:58.920 --> 00:19:02.000
She was too cautious. Yeah. And she planned it

00:19:02.000 --> 00:19:04.160
in advance and, in fact, told everyone in advance,

00:19:04.380 --> 00:19:06.160
okay, his voice is going to sound a little weird,

00:19:06.180 --> 00:19:08.799
but don't worry about it. All along, she was

00:19:08.799 --> 00:19:10.779
planning on pitch correcting his voice for the

00:19:10.779 --> 00:19:13.680
live stream. Mistake. And there's another mistake,

00:19:13.819 --> 00:19:18.140
too. Did you realize this? Okay, the video that

00:19:18.140 --> 00:19:22.180
they shot for the live stream. made it look like

00:19:22.180 --> 00:19:24.039
Black Sabbath. The rest of the members walked

00:19:24.039 --> 00:19:26.359
off on Ozzy. Yes, and left him there all alone.

00:19:26.500 --> 00:19:29.339
They edited out the part that made sense. Geezer

00:19:29.339 --> 00:19:31.400
Butler came back. They left him there to absorb

00:19:31.400 --> 00:19:33.440
it. The last time he was going to be on stage,

00:19:33.599 --> 00:19:35.599
they're like, Ozzy, it's all yours. And it pissed

00:19:35.599 --> 00:19:37.619
Ozzy off. He was like, no, you guys need to be

00:19:37.619 --> 00:19:40.319
here with me. We're one band. And they're like,

00:19:40.380 --> 00:19:43.460
no, Oz, enjoy it. This is for you. And Geezer

00:19:43.460 --> 00:19:46.279
Butler brought him a cake. Yeah. But they edited

00:19:46.279 --> 00:19:48.440
that out, so everyone's like, how dare they?

00:19:48.519 --> 00:19:50.539
It made it look like Black Sabbath, a bunch of

00:19:50.539 --> 00:19:53.099
jerks that just walked away when they got what

00:19:53.099 --> 00:19:55.400
they wanted. Yeah, how would you like to be the

00:19:55.400 --> 00:19:58.640
rest of Black Sabbath? They'd be like, hey, the

00:19:58.640 --> 00:20:01.480
whole world thinks we're assholes. That's a good

00:20:01.480 --> 00:20:04.460
thing for people to remember, is that editing

00:20:04.460 --> 00:20:08.240
can really disguise what actually happened. Clever

00:20:08.240 --> 00:20:10.079
editing will give you the ass. absolute wrong

00:20:10.079 --> 00:20:12.000
impression of what happened. You know the only

00:20:12.000 --> 00:20:14.779
reason it got out was outrage. People were going,

00:20:14.859 --> 00:20:17.720
no, I was there. Watch this video. I remember

00:20:17.720 --> 00:20:20.819
that too. It kind of exploded it. There's going

00:20:20.819 --> 00:20:22.779
to be a re -edited version of the video, I'm

00:20:22.779 --> 00:20:24.299
sure. It's coming out the first of the year.

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Rob reported on it. It's going to be at Regal

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Theaters and it's going to be like a three hour

00:20:28.700 --> 00:20:32.119
compilation of the high points. It's going to

00:20:32.119 --> 00:20:34.539
go to Charity 2 and it's going to be called Back

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to the Beginning and it's going to air for like

00:20:36.980 --> 00:20:41.289
one week. Nice. I think it's in January, so we'll

00:20:41.289 --> 00:20:42.690
all go see it because there's nothing else to

00:20:42.690 --> 00:20:45.130
do. Yeah, yeah. January's a pretty cold month.

00:20:45.329 --> 00:20:53.349
Yeah, it is. So, R .I .P. Ozzy. On the day Ozzy

00:20:53.349 --> 00:20:56.049
died that evening, Alice Cooper was playing somewhere.

00:20:56.109 --> 00:20:59.089
Yes. And at the end of the concert, he had a

00:20:59.089 --> 00:21:02.369
salute to Ozzy. The whole band led the audience

00:21:02.369 --> 00:21:06.250
in a chant of, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. At an Alice

00:21:06.250 --> 00:21:09.390
Cooper show. I know. And that was their final

00:21:09.390 --> 00:21:11.269
thing of the concert. They played their encore,

00:21:11.490 --> 00:21:14.569
and they left the audience chanting Ozzy at an

00:21:14.569 --> 00:21:17.269
Alice Cooper show. That's classy. Yeah, and I'll

00:21:17.269 --> 00:21:20.210
go a step further. The two guys that lasted through

00:21:20.210 --> 00:21:24.529
music the whole time, Ozzy and Alice. And why

00:21:24.529 --> 00:21:28.670
is that? No ego. Yep. No ego whatsoever. Genuinely

00:21:28.670 --> 00:21:32.309
nice guys. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a big

00:21:32.309 --> 00:21:37.359
difference. Yeah, it does. It does. I mean, another

00:21:37.359 --> 00:21:39.799
guy that lasted a long time, and he's a really

00:21:39.799 --> 00:21:42.299
genuinely nice guy, but not quite on the same

00:21:42.299 --> 00:21:46.160
level of prolific as Rob Halford. Yeah. People

00:21:46.160 --> 00:21:50.119
seem to love him, too. Yeah. So, anyhow. He's

00:21:50.119 --> 00:21:52.299
had some smears against his reputation, but he

00:21:52.299 --> 00:21:54.619
survived. Yeah, but you know that one thing about

00:21:54.619 --> 00:21:57.420
Jamie Lane? Uh -huh. I don't think that was him.

00:21:57.440 --> 00:21:59.880
He never managed him like people said. I think

00:21:59.880 --> 00:22:02.079
that was just aimed at him because he was the

00:22:02.079 --> 00:22:04.759
closest available gay man to blame. It was. I

00:22:04.759 --> 00:22:07.359
know. And if I was Rob Halford, I'd be offended

00:22:07.359 --> 00:22:09.799
by that. I'd be like, hey, I'm not a fucking

00:22:09.799 --> 00:22:12.000
rapist. You guys don't do that shit to me. And

00:22:12.000 --> 00:22:14.059
he probably realized that it's better just to

00:22:14.059 --> 00:22:16.640
let it die on its own than to make a big deal

00:22:16.640 --> 00:22:20.519
out of it. Yeah. I'm willing to give Rob Halford

00:22:20.519 --> 00:22:23.470
every benefit of the doubt. Me too. Me too. I

00:22:23.470 --> 00:22:25.670
think it's classy that he didn't respond. I would

00:22:25.670 --> 00:22:30.269
have. I'd have been like, no, guys. Anyhow. Well,

00:22:30.309 --> 00:22:33.250
I've got the top ten stolen guitar stories, if

00:22:33.250 --> 00:22:35.009
you'd like to hear that. And I've got some bullet

00:22:35.009 --> 00:22:37.450
points after that. All righty. All right, the

00:22:37.450 --> 00:22:40.349
number ten on the list is Peter Frampton's Phoenix

00:22:40.349 --> 00:22:44.490
Les Paul. He used to play an SG when he was in

00:22:44.490 --> 00:22:47.069
Mount the Hoople. Then he switched to the hollow

00:22:47.069 --> 00:22:50.289
body ES -335, but it had so many feedback problems.

00:22:50.970 --> 00:22:55.250
He tried a friend's modified 1955 Les Paul Custom,

00:22:55.490 --> 00:23:00.589
which had three pickings. In 55, they were using

00:23:00.589 --> 00:23:03.369
P90s, two P90s. This was modified to take three

00:23:03.369 --> 00:23:08.849
humbuckers, plus a whammy bar. He used it on

00:23:08.849 --> 00:23:12.170
all of his early albums, including If Rampton

00:23:12.170 --> 00:23:14.410
Comes Alive. That's the one he's holding on the

00:23:14.410 --> 00:23:17.589
cover. He offered to buy it from his friend,

00:23:17.690 --> 00:23:19.470
but his friend said, now, just give it to you.

00:23:19.829 --> 00:23:25.849
Go ahead and enjoy it. That's cool. In 1980,

00:23:28.250 --> 00:23:31.569
during the South American tour, the cargo plane

00:23:31.569 --> 00:23:34.890
carrying all of Brampton's gear crashed and burned

00:23:34.890 --> 00:23:39.289
and killed everyone. And all the gear on it was

00:23:39.289 --> 00:23:42.430
presumed completely lost. The guitar was presumed

00:23:42.430 --> 00:23:45.529
burned up and lost and done. Wow. I had no idea.

00:23:46.009 --> 00:23:49.990
But it showed up at a Caracas luthier shop not

00:23:49.990 --> 00:23:53.150
long after. And the luthier recognized it and

00:23:53.150 --> 00:23:56.529
tried to buy it. And the guy's like, nah, nah,

00:23:56.529 --> 00:23:59.210
I don't want to sell it. Years went by and finally

00:23:59.210 --> 00:24:02.529
the luthier in 2011 bought it from the guy for

00:24:02.529 --> 00:24:07.069
$5 ,000. And then flew it to Nashville to hand

00:24:07.069 --> 00:24:09.849
it directly to Peter Frampton. No shit. In the

00:24:09.849 --> 00:24:13.250
Gibson garage. In the Gibson garage. And Brampton

00:24:13.250 --> 00:24:14.970
gave it right over to the guys in the Gibson

00:24:14.970 --> 00:24:17.750
garage who restored it to the condition it was

00:24:17.750 --> 00:24:21.269
when it was stolen. And he nicknamed it Phoenix

00:24:21.269 --> 00:24:23.230
because it rose from the ashes and he's been

00:24:23.230 --> 00:24:26.349
using it ever since. Very cool. Now the interesting

00:24:26.349 --> 00:24:30.029
part that struck me is obviously that guitar

00:24:30.029 --> 00:24:33.069
was not on the airplane when it crashed. Somebody

00:24:33.069 --> 00:24:35.769
stole it before the plane crashed. Yeah. So did

00:24:35.769 --> 00:24:38.549
the person who stole it also sabotage the plane

00:24:38.549 --> 00:24:42.410
to kill everyone and disguise and cover his tracks?

00:24:42.990 --> 00:24:45.670
So the person who had it might be a multiple

00:24:45.670 --> 00:24:50.450
murderer for that guitar. It's an interesting

00:24:50.450 --> 00:24:53.390
thing to think about. Well, I mean, it's a hell

00:24:53.390 --> 00:24:57.890
of a coincidence. I know. Yeah. Wow. All right.

00:24:57.930 --> 00:25:03.799
Number nine, Jeff Beck's 1959 Les Paul. I actually

00:25:03.799 --> 00:25:07.279
know this guy. All right. July 21st, 1969, Jeff

00:25:07.279 --> 00:25:10.119
Beck was playing in Ellenville, New York, and

00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:12.119
he sprayed the crowd with a fire extinguisher

00:25:12.119 --> 00:25:14.819
for fun and to try to fire the crowd up. The

00:25:14.819 --> 00:25:17.480
police stormed the stage, took the band off the

00:25:17.480 --> 00:25:20.019
stage, and took them backstage to settle them

00:25:20.019 --> 00:25:22.599
down. While they were backstage, the audience

00:25:22.599 --> 00:25:26.059
got up and looted their gear. Lots of stuff got

00:25:26.059 --> 00:25:31.250
stolen, including his 1959 Les Paul. It resurfaced

00:25:31.250 --> 00:25:37.170
in 2000, and guitar dealer Harry Margalef found

00:25:37.170 --> 00:25:40.450
it. He comes up again in these stories. He asked

00:25:40.450 --> 00:25:43.210
Beck permission to buy it. He called up Jeff

00:25:43.210 --> 00:25:45.250
Beck and said, hey, I found that guitar of yours

00:25:45.250 --> 00:25:47.009
that got stolen all those years ago, and this

00:25:47.009 --> 00:25:50.069
guy wants to sell it. Is it okay with you if

00:25:50.069 --> 00:25:52.690
I just go ahead and buy it? And Beck said, yeah,

00:25:52.890 --> 00:25:55.089
that's fine. I've moved on from that guitar.

00:25:55.109 --> 00:25:59.250
Go ahead. So this collector, Perry Margolaf,

00:25:59.349 --> 00:26:03.069
a dealer and collector, he paid $75 ,000 to an

00:26:03.069 --> 00:26:04.069
anonymous person. This is not the story I thought

00:26:04.069 --> 00:26:09.529
it was. And then 2018, Jeff Beck said, you know

00:26:09.529 --> 00:26:11.750
what? I do want the guitar back. It's mine. It

00:26:11.750 --> 00:26:13.809
was stolen from me. You have to give it to me.

00:26:15.890 --> 00:26:19.180
What a jerk. Wait a minute, this is the story.

00:26:19.259 --> 00:26:20.759
I heard it a little bit different. Go ahead.

00:26:20.940 --> 00:26:23.400
And Marguleth said, no, in that conversation,

00:26:23.680 --> 00:26:26.200
you said, I don't care, I've moved on, you can

00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:28.380
go ahead and buy it, do whatever. Beck says,

00:26:28.619 --> 00:26:32.039
no, that phone call never happened. And they've

00:26:32.039 --> 00:26:33.859
been fighting about it ever since, and it still

00:26:33.859 --> 00:26:36.380
hasn't been resolved. And Jeff Beck's dead, so

00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:39.920
it's kind of, you know, it's kind of a moot point

00:26:39.920 --> 00:26:45.160
at this point, but that Perry Marguleth. insist.

00:26:45.299 --> 00:26:47.980
I offered him. I said, you want me to buy it

00:26:47.980 --> 00:26:50.480
for you? Do you want it back? Is it okay if I

00:26:50.480 --> 00:26:54.920
buy it for me? Wasn't there like a lot of controversy

00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:58.000
about Rod Stewart not getting paid from the Jeff

00:26:58.000 --> 00:27:01.660
Beck group or something too? Yeah. Maybe that's

00:27:01.660 --> 00:27:07.160
what you got with him. Maybe so. Alright, number

00:27:07.160 --> 00:27:12.779
eight. Billy Corgan's Gish Stratocaster. 1992

00:27:12.779 --> 00:27:15.539
Smashing Pumpkins album was called Gish, and

00:27:15.539 --> 00:27:18.059
this is the guitar he was using to record it

00:27:18.059 --> 00:27:23.180
and play on the tour. After the Detroit show,

00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.380
this guitar was stolen, and Corrigan offered

00:27:26.380 --> 00:27:29.799
a $20 ,000 no -questions -asked return reward.

00:27:30.160 --> 00:27:32.579
He said, I don't care, I'm not going to care,

00:27:32.700 --> 00:27:35.940
just give me my guitar back, I'll give you $20

00:27:35.940 --> 00:27:40.140
,000 no -questions -asked. Nothing. Now, in 2019,

00:27:40.599 --> 00:27:43.460
Corrigan was contacted by Beth James of Flushing,

00:27:43.519 --> 00:27:46.940
Michigan, and said, I bought this guitar in 2009

00:27:46.940 --> 00:27:51.740
at a garage sale for $200. And she didn't even

00:27:51.740 --> 00:27:53.799
play guitar. She hung it on her wall as art.

00:27:55.480 --> 00:27:57.880
And then she noticed some of the unique features

00:27:57.880 --> 00:28:00.079
on the guitar, some of the modifications Corrigan

00:28:00.079 --> 00:28:02.019
had made, so she started looking it up because

00:28:02.019 --> 00:28:03.599
she wanted to know, well, maybe this is a valuable

00:28:03.599 --> 00:28:06.180
guitar. I should insure it. Found out it was

00:28:06.180 --> 00:28:09.480
Billy Corrigan's guitar. So she contacted him

00:28:09.480 --> 00:28:12.420
and said, you can have it back. All you have

00:28:12.420 --> 00:28:14.299
to do is come get it. And there's a picture there

00:28:14.299 --> 00:28:17.599
of Billy Corgan in this shaved head, fur coat,

00:28:17.759 --> 00:28:21.079
picking up this guitar with this enormous grin

00:28:21.079 --> 00:28:26.779
on his face. And she just gave it back to him

00:28:26.779 --> 00:28:28.299
and said, here, you can have it. And he had to

00:28:28.299 --> 00:28:31.400
immediately have it fixed up, and he used it

00:28:31.400 --> 00:28:34.440
on the Sear album, CYR. And he's been playing

00:28:34.440 --> 00:28:36.829
it and using it ever since. Wow. He's just tickled

00:28:36.829 --> 00:28:37.630
pink to have that. Did he give her a compensation

00:28:37.630 --> 00:28:40.730
or anything? I imagine so. I hope so. Yeah, I

00:28:40.730 --> 00:28:44.829
imagine. That was really cool of her. Yeah. Okay,

00:28:45.029 --> 00:28:49.769
number seven. Jaco Pistorius' 1962 fretless Fender

00:28:49.769 --> 00:28:52.390
Jazz bass, nicknamed the Bass of Doom. Isn't

00:28:52.390 --> 00:28:56.190
that Oscar Pistorius' dad? Yeah, I think so.

00:28:56.450 --> 00:28:58.910
Yeah. Wasn't that the Blade Runner? Blade Runner.

00:28:59.009 --> 00:29:01.470
The guy who killed his girlfriend? Yeah. Okay,

00:29:01.650 --> 00:29:04.309
this Bass of Doom is used on most of his recorded

00:29:04.309 --> 00:29:09.740
music. He had bought a regular Fender Jazz bass,

00:29:09.920 --> 00:29:12.160
and he pulled all the frets out, like teeth.

00:29:12.619 --> 00:29:14.779
And then he filled the slots with wood putty

00:29:14.779 --> 00:29:17.500
and put a couple layers of marine lacquer over

00:29:17.500 --> 00:29:19.859
it. So it would be like a fretless bass? Yeah.

00:29:20.059 --> 00:29:22.519
But from a distance, when you looked at it, you

00:29:22.519 --> 00:29:24.240
could see where the frets used to be. So you've

00:29:24.240 --> 00:29:26.240
got visual markers of where to put your fingers.

00:29:26.279 --> 00:29:27.799
It would be the greatest way to play a fretless

00:29:27.799 --> 00:29:31.079
bass. It would be so easy. But that was his bass

00:29:31.079 --> 00:29:34.200
of doom, and he used it on everything. So he

00:29:34.200 --> 00:29:37.359
wanted it to appear like it was a fretless bass,

00:29:37.619 --> 00:29:39.900
but actually it wasn't, because he still had

00:29:39.900 --> 00:29:42.220
the markers enough to tell what fret he was on.

00:29:42.319 --> 00:29:44.940
Yeah, so it played and sounded fretless, but

00:29:44.940 --> 00:29:47.559
I found one like it in the pawn shop, where you

00:29:47.559 --> 00:29:50.259
could see lines where the frets were, and when

00:29:50.259 --> 00:29:51.900
you played it, it was like, hell, this is easy.

00:29:51.980 --> 00:29:53.980
I can play these notes exactly right. You don't

00:29:53.980 --> 00:29:56.400
have to guess where it is on the... Yeah, because

00:29:56.400 --> 00:29:59.440
a fretless bass is unrelenting. Yeah, it is.

00:29:59.559 --> 00:30:03.069
It sounds so beautiful. Yeah, oh gosh. But anyway,

00:30:03.190 --> 00:30:06.029
his career took off and he had drug problems.

00:30:06.549 --> 00:30:08.769
Plus, he was a real jerk. He's the kind of guy

00:30:08.769 --> 00:30:10.650
that if he was in the audience and he didn't

00:30:10.650 --> 00:30:12.710
like the way the bass player was playing, he

00:30:12.710 --> 00:30:14.710
would get up on the stage and take the guy's

00:30:14.710 --> 00:30:18.210
bass from him and play it. Say, no, no, you're

00:30:18.210 --> 00:30:21.109
doing it wrong. Here's how to do it. Just a relentless

00:30:21.109 --> 00:30:25.690
jerk. Anyway, so in 1982, it was either one,

00:30:25.809 --> 00:30:29.309
stolen, or two, he gave it away while stoned,

00:30:29.329 --> 00:30:32.240
or three. He left it on a park bench while stoned.

00:30:32.799 --> 00:30:34.619
Left it on a park bench is what I'm going with.

00:30:34.619 --> 00:30:36.720
That's probably more likely, but it could be

00:30:36.720 --> 00:30:38.420
any one of those three. He heard someone ruffling

00:30:38.420 --> 00:30:42.240
a burrito bag. Yeah. Now, Jaco Pistorius himself

00:30:42.240 --> 00:30:45.920
died five years later after a savage beating

00:30:45.920 --> 00:30:49.140
outside a Florida bar. He was an undiagnosed

00:30:49.140 --> 00:30:55.920
bipolar, not taking any meds. And he had a history

00:30:55.920 --> 00:30:59.129
of pissing off people and being arrogant. and

00:30:59.129 --> 00:31:01.569
apparently he mouthed off enough to the people

00:31:01.569 --> 00:31:06.329
in this bar that he left, and they jumped him

00:31:06.329 --> 00:31:08.630
in the alley beside the bar and just beat him

00:31:08.630 --> 00:31:11.430
to death. Wow. Yeah. You know, that's where you

00:31:11.430 --> 00:31:13.529
got the famous picture of little Oscar there

00:31:13.529 --> 00:31:17.769
at his dad's graveside crying. Yeah. Turns out

00:31:17.769 --> 00:31:23.009
he was a prick too. Yeah. Let's see. Now, the

00:31:23.009 --> 00:31:25.730
bass was rumored to be in a private collection

00:31:25.730 --> 00:31:29.069
in New York. It showed up in 2006 in a New York

00:31:29.069 --> 00:31:32.730
City music store. It was bought by Robert Trujillo

00:31:32.730 --> 00:31:37.329
of Metallica, who recognized it and still owns

00:31:37.329 --> 00:31:42.349
it. But he gave it to Jaco Castorius' other son,

00:31:42.450 --> 00:31:45.089
who plays bass, and said, here, this is your

00:31:45.089 --> 00:31:46.970
dad's bass. This is what he used. It was recorded

00:31:46.970 --> 00:31:49.190
on. I still own it, but you can use it as long

00:31:49.190 --> 00:31:52.740
as you want. Pretty cool for that guy to do that.

00:31:52.960 --> 00:31:57.259
That is. And Pistorius' son was quoted as saying,

00:31:57.339 --> 00:31:59.160
you know, I've never seen this bass, I've just

00:31:59.160 --> 00:32:03.119
heard about it as this force of nature, and I'm

00:32:03.119 --> 00:32:05.339
just thrilled to be able to play it. And apparently

00:32:05.339 --> 00:32:08.079
his son is a pretty damn good bass player without

00:32:08.079 --> 00:32:10.640
the toxic personality. Yeah, probably not going

00:32:10.640 --> 00:32:13.460
to get beat to death. I want to know what he

00:32:13.460 --> 00:32:15.539
said to make that whole bar come out and beat

00:32:15.539 --> 00:32:19.380
him to death. No kidding. But a bipolar person

00:32:19.380 --> 00:32:21.599
is a fucking pain in the ass because I've worked

00:32:21.599 --> 00:32:26.079
with a couple of them. One of them's dead and

00:32:26.079 --> 00:32:27.980
I still want to dig him up and fucking slap him.

00:32:30.960 --> 00:32:34.420
Okay, number six. Not really, but you get the

00:32:34.420 --> 00:32:40.500
idea. John Lennon's Gibson J160E Acoustic. He

00:32:40.500 --> 00:32:49.970
bought it new in 19... Yeah, looks like it's

00:32:49.970 --> 00:32:52.029
working. I'm going to turn this headphone volume

00:32:52.029 --> 00:32:55.769
down again to blow our own ears out. We had a

00:32:55.769 --> 00:32:58.410
technical problem. Yeah. Well, we didn't lose

00:32:58.410 --> 00:33:00.950
too much, maybe 10 minutes. Yeah. All right.

00:33:00.950 --> 00:33:02.890
We had just finished talking about Jaco Pistorius.

00:33:02.910 --> 00:33:04.690
I was getting ready for John Lennon's acoustic

00:33:04.690 --> 00:33:09.750
Gibson J160E. Oh, yeah. He bought it new in 62,

00:33:10.109 --> 00:33:13.450
at the same time Harrison bought a matching one.

00:33:13.759 --> 00:33:15.599
So the serial numbers are very close. They paid

00:33:15.599 --> 00:33:19.339
about $450 in that then money, about $4 ,500

00:33:19.339 --> 00:33:23.640
now. He swapped guitars with George Harrison

00:33:23.640 --> 00:33:25.640
at one point. He said, hey, you play mine, I'll

00:33:25.640 --> 00:33:29.079
play yours. But he did a lot of songwriting on

00:33:29.079 --> 00:33:31.119
it, used it on a lot of their early albums, etc.

00:33:33.019 --> 00:33:36.140
It was left behind after the Holiday Inn show

00:33:36.140 --> 00:33:41.869
in 1963 by the roadie Mal Evans. Four years later,

00:33:41.950 --> 00:33:44.349
shows up in San Diego because it was taken in

00:33:44.349 --> 00:33:48.569
trade. Then sold for $200 to a local bluegrass

00:33:48.569 --> 00:33:51.410
musician. I guess nobody's checking serial numbers.

00:33:52.250 --> 00:33:55.529
I guess not. And then that local bluegrass musician

00:33:55.529 --> 00:33:58.410
sold it to a childhood friend of mine named John

00:33:58.410 --> 00:34:02.670
McCaw, who used it for 14 years in his own music

00:34:02.670 --> 00:34:10.170
career. And then in 2014... he saw an article

00:34:10.170 --> 00:34:11.969
in a magazine about George Harrison's guitars.

00:34:12.670 --> 00:34:15.150
And he said, ooh, this one I have looks just

00:34:15.150 --> 00:34:17.369
like Harrison's, and it's got a very, very similar

00:34:17.369 --> 00:34:20.489
serial number. So he didn't realize it was John

00:34:20.489 --> 00:34:25.130
Lennon's guitar. He contacted the Beatles expert

00:34:25.130 --> 00:34:27.489
who authenticated it and said, yeah, this is

00:34:27.489 --> 00:34:30.889
Harrison's guitar. And I think since Harrison

00:34:30.889 --> 00:34:33.670
had already passed away, he sold it at auction

00:34:33.670 --> 00:34:41.099
for $2 .41 million. Geez. All right, next up

00:34:41.099 --> 00:34:43.800
we have Harrison's Rickenbacker 360 -12 string.

00:34:43.960 --> 00:34:47.159
This was given directly to him in 1964 by the

00:34:47.159 --> 00:34:51.199
president of Rickenbacker. And it was the second

00:34:51.199 --> 00:34:52.940
one ever built. There weren't too many built.

00:34:53.119 --> 00:34:55.400
And it was used on the album Hard Day's Night

00:34:55.400 --> 00:34:58.760
and a tour. But they never recorded the serial

00:34:58.760 --> 00:35:02.449
number. Now, Harrison bought a second one. Oh,

00:35:02.469 --> 00:35:04.670
wow, they never did that. Geez. I know. I guess

00:35:04.670 --> 00:35:06.789
it just wouldn't feel that important. But Harrison

00:35:06.789 --> 00:35:10.190
bought another one right before, let's see, he

00:35:10.190 --> 00:35:14.269
bought another one. No, he was gifted another

00:35:14.269 --> 00:35:16.710
one by a music store. So now he had two of them.

00:35:16.789 --> 00:35:19.389
Man. Right before the concert at the Old Met

00:35:19.389 --> 00:35:22.329
Stadium in Minnesota, where Jimmy Page and Led

00:35:22.329 --> 00:35:29.909
Zeppelin played for his gut store. I used it

00:35:29.909 --> 00:35:31.869
on the album Rubber Soul in the last tour. It

00:35:31.869 --> 00:35:35.090
may have been stolen during the Let It Be sessions.

00:35:35.710 --> 00:35:38.050
The concert at Old Met Stadium is the one where

00:35:38.050 --> 00:35:39.969
you can see it and hear it. It wasn't stolen

00:35:39.969 --> 00:35:42.489
after that. Probably stolen after the last show

00:35:42.489 --> 00:35:45.110
of the last tour right before Harrison went to

00:35:45.110 --> 00:35:48.429
India for the first time in 1966. Put all his

00:35:48.429 --> 00:35:50.369
crap in storage and said, I'm leaving the country.

00:35:50.969 --> 00:35:53.010
So somebody went and stole it because they knew

00:35:53.010 --> 00:35:57.929
Harrison wouldn't notice for a long time. The

00:35:57.929 --> 00:36:00.190
Rickenbacker company looked up the serial number

00:36:00.190 --> 00:36:02.269
run and said, we've narrowed it down to five

00:36:02.269 --> 00:36:05.530
possibilities. Your stolen one is going to have

00:36:05.530 --> 00:36:08.690
one of these five serial numbers. And eventually

00:36:08.690 --> 00:36:10.949
one of those five serial numbers showed up, but

00:36:10.949 --> 00:36:12.829
there's just no way to tell whether it was Harrison's

00:36:12.829 --> 00:36:16.289
guitar or not. It has like a 20 % chance, but

00:36:16.289 --> 00:36:18.670
whoever owns it gets to own it because there's

00:36:18.670 --> 00:36:20.429
no way to know for sure. Yeah, they can't prove

00:36:20.429 --> 00:36:24.170
it. Yeah. Wow. But at the same token, I mean,

00:36:24.190 --> 00:36:26.269
yeah, it's worth something, but it can't be worth

00:36:26.269 --> 00:36:28.090
more than what, you know what I mean? Yeah. It

00:36:28.090 --> 00:36:31.449
can't be worth the true value because 20 % chance.

00:36:31.809 --> 00:36:35.809
Yep. All right, next up we have Jimmy Page's

00:36:35.809 --> 00:36:39.869
1960 Black Les Paul Custom. Three pickups with

00:36:39.869 --> 00:36:42.550
a Bigsby vibrato system. I call it a tram, but

00:36:42.550 --> 00:36:45.769
it's a vibrato. Okay, yeah, okay. He bought it

00:36:45.769 --> 00:36:48.789
when he was 18. He was already doing three sessions

00:36:48.789 --> 00:36:51.670
a day as a session musician. And he bought this

00:36:51.670 --> 00:36:56.650
guitar for $400 on the layaway plan. They had

00:36:56.650 --> 00:37:00.190
K -Marts back then. I guess. It's the guitar

00:37:00.190 --> 00:37:02.530
you hear on the Who's song, I Can't Explain.

00:37:03.369 --> 00:37:08.110
Donovan's Sunshine Superman. It was later that

00:37:08.110 --> 00:37:14.030
he bought Joe Walsh's Les Paul in 1969. And said,

00:37:14.130 --> 00:37:15.969
ooh, I like this one better. This is my number

00:37:15.969 --> 00:37:19.050
one. So he started using that one primarily in

00:37:19.050 --> 00:37:22.969
the 1960s. It wasn't used quite so much. And

00:37:22.969 --> 00:37:25.190
that's when he made the break from Telecaster

00:37:25.190 --> 00:37:27.889
guitars. On the first Zeppelin album, that's

00:37:27.889 --> 00:37:30.150
Telecaster he's playing. I'll be damned. No,

00:37:31.429 --> 00:37:33.250
I remember that. I remember we talked about that

00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:37.130
before. Yeah, he was a Tele guy. Now, he took

00:37:37.130 --> 00:37:41.250
his 1960 on tour in 1970, and it was last used

00:37:41.250 --> 00:37:45.869
at the Met Stadium, again in Minnesota, April

00:37:45.869 --> 00:37:50.139
12, 1970. And then the band flew to Montreal

00:37:50.139 --> 00:37:52.480
for the next gig. When they got to Montreal,

00:37:52.539 --> 00:37:54.559
the guitar wasn't there. It had never made it

00:37:54.559 --> 00:37:58.380
onto the airplane. Now what had happened was

00:37:58.380 --> 00:38:01.460
the baggage handler in Minnesota knew what it

00:38:01.460 --> 00:38:06.139
was and stole it. Took it home, modified it heavily,

00:38:06.280 --> 00:38:09.820
and then left it in its case under his bed for

00:38:09.820 --> 00:38:11.900
who knows how many years. You know, back then

00:38:11.900 --> 00:38:14.469
they could have carried on. Yeah. They could

00:38:14.469 --> 00:38:16.349
have just said, no, this guitar stays with me.

00:38:16.369 --> 00:38:17.989
I don't understand why on the real important

00:38:17.989 --> 00:38:20.230
ones they didn't do that. I really don't know.

00:38:20.550 --> 00:38:26.769
I think they all started. Yeah. So anyway, in

00:38:26.769 --> 00:38:31.150
1993, his widow takes the guitar to Willie's

00:38:31.150 --> 00:38:36.170
American Guitars in St. Paul. What a name. Yeah.

00:38:36.230 --> 00:38:39.829
Let's go to Willie's. And he said... My husband

00:38:39.829 --> 00:38:42.349
admitted that he stole this guitar from Jimmy

00:38:42.349 --> 00:38:48.949
Page in 1970, and I want to sell it. So the guitar

00:38:48.949 --> 00:38:52.989
store bought it for $5 ,000, contacted Jimmy

00:38:52.989 --> 00:38:55.929
Page and his people and said, we think we have

00:38:55.929 --> 00:38:58.550
your missing guitar. And they described it to

00:38:58.550 --> 00:39:00.750
him, but they described the modified version.

00:39:00.929 --> 00:39:02.949
And Jimmy Page was like, no, that's not mine.

00:39:03.010 --> 00:39:05.250
I had two extra switches on it, and there was

00:39:05.250 --> 00:39:07.170
a big speed vibrato system on it. No, that's

00:39:07.170 --> 00:39:11.559
not my guitar. So he blew them off. So an employee

00:39:11.559 --> 00:39:14.119
of the store bought the guitar, played it for

00:39:14.119 --> 00:39:18.760
20 years, and then brought it in for a headstock

00:39:18.760 --> 00:39:21.239
repair. Like we said the first time, why in the

00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:24.760
fuck did he bother? I know. It's crazy. They

00:39:24.760 --> 00:39:26.500
brought it in for a headstock repair, and while

00:39:26.500 --> 00:39:28.360
they were checking over the paint and the construction

00:39:28.360 --> 00:39:30.880
and stuff, it was like, oh, here's where the

00:39:30.880 --> 00:39:32.739
modifications were. We could see the difference

00:39:32.739 --> 00:39:34.900
in paint. There were two switches here. There

00:39:34.900 --> 00:39:37.659
was a big speed here. So they contacted Jimmy

00:39:37.659 --> 00:39:40.300
Page again, and he said, okay, that's my guitar.

00:39:40.960 --> 00:39:44.260
So the guy took it to him, and when Jimmy Page

00:39:44.260 --> 00:39:46.679
picked it up and held it, he said he recognized

00:39:46.679 --> 00:39:50.079
it immediately. I don't know how long it's been,

00:39:50.179 --> 00:39:52.159
but this is the guitar I can tell by the way

00:39:52.159 --> 00:39:57.099
it feels. So in the way of compensation, Jimmy

00:39:57.099 --> 00:40:00.320
Page went and found an identical 1960 Les Paul

00:40:00.320 --> 00:40:03.179
Custom worth about $70 ,000 and then swapped

00:40:03.179 --> 00:40:07.829
the guy. Wow. So the guy still had his classy,

00:40:08.090 --> 00:40:10.130
classy. That was really good. Like I said the

00:40:10.130 --> 00:40:12.650
first time around, that's not bad for an Aleister

00:40:12.650 --> 00:40:17.070
Crowley following in heroin. Yeah, he's got some

00:40:17.070 --> 00:40:20.909
conscience. Yeah, allegedly. But okay, I got

00:40:20.909 --> 00:40:23.809
this. All these people just contact these stars.

00:40:24.210 --> 00:40:26.989
How the hell is that done? I guess through a

00:40:26.989 --> 00:40:29.809
music store. I guess. Yeah. Because how can you

00:40:29.809 --> 00:40:32.230
just do that? Right now, it's like... Hey, you

00:40:32.230 --> 00:40:34.349
want to call it Vince Neil? We couldn't do that.

00:40:34.349 --> 00:40:36.530
No. We went down to Guitar Center and said, hey

00:40:36.530 --> 00:40:38.409
man, can you get in touch with Zach Wild for

00:40:38.409 --> 00:40:46.309
me? He'd be like, no. It's, let's see, 1039 Western

00:40:46.309 --> 00:40:51.489
Time. Nah, he'd be drunk. Yeah. Next up, Paul

00:40:51.489 --> 00:40:54.670
McCartney and his violin -style bass. It's a

00:40:54.670 --> 00:40:59.710
Hamburg Hoffner 500 -1. It vanished when the

00:40:59.710 --> 00:41:02.570
band broke up. It was the one he bought way early

00:41:02.570 --> 00:41:06.570
in his career. He wanted a Fender precision -based,

00:41:06.690 --> 00:41:09.329
but he couldn't afford it, and there weren't

00:41:09.329 --> 00:41:11.550
a whole lot of left -handed options. So he found

00:41:11.550 --> 00:41:13.309
this, thought, eh, sounds pretty good, I'll buy

00:41:13.309 --> 00:41:15.269
it. And he used it for some of the early stuff.

00:41:15.969 --> 00:41:19.050
And then it became a backup, and he used it as

00:41:19.050 --> 00:41:22.650
a backup until about 69. And it was either, one,

00:41:22.710 --> 00:41:24.670
taken out of the closet during the Let It Be

00:41:24.670 --> 00:41:27.030
sessions, or two, stolen out of the back of a

00:41:27.030 --> 00:41:31.050
van in Notting Hill in 1972. Now, there was a

00:41:31.050 --> 00:41:34.630
2024 documentary about this stolen vase. I do

00:41:34.630 --> 00:41:37.010
remember that, too. Yeah, and somebody watched

00:41:37.010 --> 00:41:38.809
it and said, you know what, there's an old vase

00:41:38.809 --> 00:41:40.769
in the attic that looks just like that. I wonder

00:41:40.769 --> 00:41:43.510
what that is. And they went up and found it and

00:41:43.510 --> 00:41:45.769
had it authenticated, and that was the stolen

00:41:45.769 --> 00:41:49.550
vase. Wow. And the back story was, the person

00:41:49.550 --> 00:41:51.849
said, the guy who bought it from said he stole

00:41:51.849 --> 00:41:55.190
it out of somebody's van. So apparently that's

00:41:55.190 --> 00:41:57.170
what it actually, in 72, it was sitting in the

00:41:57.170 --> 00:42:02.619
back of the van, and somebody stole it. And they

00:42:02.619 --> 00:42:05.300
returned it to McCartney within a few days, and

00:42:05.300 --> 00:42:09.500
he was very pleased to have it. George Harrison,

00:42:09.679 --> 00:42:13.260
his 1957 gold -top Les Paul, which he nicknamed

00:42:13.260 --> 00:42:16.480
Lucy, first belonged to John Sebastian of the

00:42:16.480 --> 00:42:19.329
Loving Spoonful. And we know what the loving

00:42:19.329 --> 00:42:22.710
spoonful refers to. The same thing for 10cc.

00:42:22.829 --> 00:42:25.369
It should be 1cc, but there's such men, they

00:42:25.369 --> 00:42:29.349
went for 10. Yes. He -men. Yeah. We overproduced.

00:42:29.530 --> 00:42:32.750
Yeah, that's it. Talk about ejaculate. Both bands

00:42:32.750 --> 00:42:37.590
remained after that. Okay, so John Sebastian

00:42:37.590 --> 00:42:39.650
bought it, played it for a while, sold it to

00:42:39.650 --> 00:42:42.469
Rick Derringer of the McCoys. He sent it back

00:42:42.469 --> 00:42:44.190
to Gibson and said, I don't like the gold color

00:42:44.190 --> 00:42:46.670
painted cherry red. So they did, and he sent

00:42:46.670 --> 00:42:48.449
it back, and he's like, ooh, I don't like it.

00:42:48.510 --> 00:42:51.670
So we sold it to Dan Armstrong, a New York guitar

00:42:51.670 --> 00:42:54.449
dealer, where it was bought by Eric Clapton.

00:42:55.730 --> 00:42:58.429
After he banged a... Yeah, after he banged his

00:42:58.429 --> 00:43:01.750
wife. Yes. And then he gave it to George Harrison

00:43:01.750 --> 00:43:05.210
in August of 68, who named it after Lucille Ball,

00:43:05.349 --> 00:43:07.670
because it was red. And Lucille Ball had famously

00:43:07.670 --> 00:43:12.050
red hair. That's disgusting. My tiny little fists

00:43:12.050 --> 00:43:15.250
are angry. Now, this is the guitar that you're

00:43:15.250 --> 00:43:18.030
hearing Clapton play on the Beatles song While

00:43:18.030 --> 00:43:20.690
My Guitar Gently Weeps. Man, and that tone in

00:43:20.690 --> 00:43:24.650
it. And there's a Peter Frampton remake of that

00:43:24.650 --> 00:43:27.630
song definitely worth listening to. I don't know

00:43:27.630 --> 00:43:29.570
if I've ever heard that, actually. Oh, it's a

00:43:29.570 --> 00:43:33.090
hell of a guitar solo. Okay. Let's see. It was

00:43:33.090 --> 00:43:39.269
stolen from George Harrison's home in 1973. It

00:43:39.269 --> 00:43:42.309
was immediately tracked to a local shop who had

00:43:42.309 --> 00:43:45.239
just sold it. But by the time Harrison's people

00:43:45.239 --> 00:43:47.099
got there, the guy who'd bought it was already

00:43:47.099 --> 00:43:49.699
gone. Fortunately, he left his phone number on

00:43:49.699 --> 00:43:52.619
the receipt. It was a guy named Miguel Ochoa,

00:43:52.739 --> 00:43:54.719
who was at the time the most well -known guitar

00:43:54.719 --> 00:43:57.840
player in Mexico. So he was in L .A. for the

00:43:57.840 --> 00:43:59.840
day. He bought it. He's like, all right, take

00:43:59.840 --> 00:44:02.599
it home to Mexico. So George Harrison called

00:44:02.599 --> 00:44:05.059
him on the phone and said, it's George Harrison,

00:44:05.119 --> 00:44:07.179
and that guitar you bought is one that was stolen

00:44:07.179 --> 00:44:10.579
from me just a few hours ago. I'd really like

00:44:10.579 --> 00:44:13.519
to get it back. And the guy's like, yeah, what

00:44:13.519 --> 00:44:15.800
a stupid joke, man. Quit jerking me around and

00:44:15.800 --> 00:44:20.079
hung up on him. You know, George Harrison was

00:44:20.079 --> 00:44:23.199
like, shit. He had to keep calling the guy back,

00:44:23.300 --> 00:44:25.579
and eventually the guy is like, okay, I believe

00:44:25.579 --> 00:44:27.739
you are who you say you are. I can hear him right

00:44:27.739 --> 00:44:33.360
now. Look, Mr. Chihuahua, could you please just

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.889
fucking bring him back? But, you know, the guy

00:44:37.889 --> 00:44:40.230
is like, you know, I paid good money for this.

00:44:40.250 --> 00:44:42.409
I don't want to just give it away. So they negotiated

00:44:42.409 --> 00:44:45.389
for a while, and the deal they struck was Harrison

00:44:45.389 --> 00:44:50.690
would buy a Fender Precision bass and a Sunburst

00:44:50.690 --> 00:44:54.050
Les Paul and swap them immediately and swap them

00:44:54.050 --> 00:44:55.829
back and forth for it, which is what they did.

00:44:56.449 --> 00:44:59.869
And George Harrison forever joked that that guitar

00:44:59.869 --> 00:45:04.579
had been kidnapped and returned. He still owned

00:45:04.579 --> 00:45:07.460
it at the time of his death. But the 58 Les Paul

00:45:07.460 --> 00:45:11.420
that he traded to the guy, that one sold for

00:45:11.420 --> 00:45:15.619
$312 ,000 recently. Backstory is everything.

00:45:15.960 --> 00:45:20.780
Yeah, you're right. Eric Clapton's Be No, 1960,

00:45:21.239 --> 00:45:24.230
verse Les Paul. It got its name from the cover

00:45:24.230 --> 00:45:27.309
of the very influential John Mayall and the Blues

00:45:27.309 --> 00:45:29.510
Breakers album with Eric Clapton on the cover,

00:45:29.590 --> 00:45:32.090
where he's reading a Beano comic book, so he

00:45:32.090 --> 00:45:36.369
called the guitar Beano. He was later rehearsing

00:45:36.369 --> 00:45:38.829
in the church with his new band, Cream. Gee,

00:45:38.889 --> 00:45:40.909
I've heard of them. Yeah, yeah. Another band

00:45:40.909 --> 00:45:45.199
named after Ejaculate. Oh, that's right. It was

00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:47.179
stolen from the church they were practicing in.

00:45:47.420 --> 00:45:49.400
And then a week later, someone came back and

00:45:49.400 --> 00:45:53.000
stole the case, too. That always could be. That's

00:45:53.000 --> 00:45:57.820
so ballsy. But wait, there's more. Like I said

00:45:57.820 --> 00:46:00.599
before, you know, they get back to the hideout.

00:46:01.059 --> 00:46:03.480
Where's the case? Oh, damn it. I forgot the case.

00:46:07.659 --> 00:46:13.400
Oh, anyway. In 2016, Joe Bonamassa. said, I know

00:46:13.400 --> 00:46:16.659
where that guitar is. I've seen it. It's in a

00:46:16.659 --> 00:46:19.039
private guitar collection somewhere on the East

00:46:19.039 --> 00:46:20.900
Coast, but I can't tell you any more than that.

00:46:21.820 --> 00:46:24.300
So he just didn't know more than that. Yeah,

00:46:24.340 --> 00:46:26.079
I think he knows more than that, but I think

00:46:26.079 --> 00:46:28.099
the person who owns it is a dangerous person.

00:46:28.800 --> 00:46:31.840
He doesn't want to be known that he's got stolen

00:46:31.840 --> 00:46:33.840
guitars. Okay, I thought maybe he didn't like

00:46:33.840 --> 00:46:36.440
Clapton. He's like, hey, hey. No, I think he's

00:46:36.440 --> 00:46:39.300
just afraid of the guy who's got it. I thought

00:46:39.300 --> 00:46:41.800
maybe he was an immigrant. Oh, he might have

00:46:41.800 --> 00:46:45.579
been. Anyway, Clapton said that is still the

00:46:45.579 --> 00:46:47.519
best guitar he ever played, and he's never found

00:46:47.519 --> 00:46:50.119
one like it, and it remains officially missing.

00:46:52.079 --> 00:46:55.599
And then the last one I had was Joe Perry's 1959

00:46:55.599 --> 00:46:59.449
Les Paul. This actually, it's an honorable mention

00:46:59.449 --> 00:47:01.889
because it wasn't stolen. Joe Perry actually

00:47:01.889 --> 00:47:07.190
sold it. Like, 74, Aerosmith got real big. Five

00:47:07.190 --> 00:47:10.090
years later, in 79, the band was on the skids

00:47:10.090 --> 00:47:12.769
because they spent every penny on drugs, and

00:47:12.769 --> 00:47:15.750
their concerts sucked. They were all heroin addicts,

00:47:15.750 --> 00:47:17.489
basically. No, they were so wasted all the time.

00:47:17.570 --> 00:47:21.769
Joe Perry was ready to quit and form the Joe

00:47:21.769 --> 00:47:25.800
Perry Project. Yeah, which went real well. The

00:47:25.800 --> 00:47:28.219
music did not do the talking. No, no. He was

00:47:28.219 --> 00:47:30.980
still drugged out of his mind. Yes. And he didn't

00:47:30.980 --> 00:47:33.380
have a lot of money. He was mostly playing strats

00:47:33.380 --> 00:47:35.119
at the time anyway, so he decided, I'm just going

00:47:35.119 --> 00:47:38.420
to sell this Les Paul. Sold it to a Boston guitar

00:47:38.420 --> 00:47:41.980
shop for $4 ,500. An employee immediately bought

00:47:41.980 --> 00:47:43.840
it. It's like, hell yeah, Joe Perry's guitar.

00:47:43.960 --> 00:47:48.820
I'm buying this. And then resold it to guitar

00:47:48.820 --> 00:47:52.559
collector Jerry Beaudoin, I presume is French.

00:47:53.539 --> 00:47:55.820
Well, yeah, I think I'd be pretty good. Yeah.

00:47:56.480 --> 00:48:00.179
Now, in 1982, Joe... Unless he was adopted. Could

00:48:00.179 --> 00:48:04.400
be, could be. In 1982, Joe Perry got sober. They

00:48:04.400 --> 00:48:09.719
reformed Aerosmith. And in 84, he wanted to find

00:48:09.719 --> 00:48:12.599
the guitar again. But it had already been sold

00:48:12.599 --> 00:48:16.780
to Eric Johnson. So he contacted Eric Johnson

00:48:16.780 --> 00:48:18.460
and said, Hey, man, I'd really like to buy that

00:48:18.460 --> 00:48:20.650
guitar back. You know, it was a mistake for me

00:48:20.650 --> 00:48:22.690
to sell it, and I really like it. So Eric Johnson

00:48:22.690 --> 00:48:25.349
said, sure, fair market value, you can have it

00:48:25.349 --> 00:48:28.070
back. And Joe was like, uh, I'm kind of broke

00:48:28.070 --> 00:48:32.429
right now, so... But he kept talking to Eric

00:48:32.429 --> 00:48:35.929
Johnson. Heroin was very expensive. Yes. Eric

00:48:35.929 --> 00:48:38.230
eventually sold it to Dixie Guitars in Atlanta,

00:48:38.510 --> 00:48:43.050
where it was bought by Slash. Who was a huge

00:48:43.050 --> 00:48:45.869
Joe Perry band. Yes, which I only learned recently.

00:48:46.400 --> 00:48:48.960
And he actually sounds a lot like him on rhythm.

00:48:49.039 --> 00:48:51.679
He does. Very much so. He does. So that was in

00:48:51.679 --> 00:48:55.320
1989. He bought it for four grand. Or eight grand,

00:48:55.420 --> 00:49:01.079
I'm sorry. And then he used it in Guns N' Roses.

00:49:01.079 --> 00:49:04.619
You've heard it on a ton of songs. In the November

00:49:04.619 --> 00:49:07.340
Rain video. That's the one he's playing during

00:49:07.340 --> 00:49:08.960
his solo, staying out in front of that little

00:49:08.960 --> 00:49:10.599
white church. That might be the best solo he's

00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.860
ever done, too. And that's such a gorgeous looking

00:49:12.860 --> 00:49:16.829
guitar. It is. That's a really nice guitar. But

00:49:16.829 --> 00:49:20.690
then eventually Brad Whitford, the rhythm guitar

00:49:20.690 --> 00:49:23.369
for Aerosmith. He was a great rhythm guitarist.

00:49:23.489 --> 00:49:27.329
Very underrated. Brad Whitford and the drummer

00:49:27.329 --> 00:49:30.030
Joey Kramer. Don't get the... Oh, Joey Kramer.

00:49:30.030 --> 00:49:34.190
Oh, gosh, yeah. He's a monster. Yeah. Anyway,

00:49:34.289 --> 00:49:36.050
Brad Whitford was looking through a magazine

00:49:36.050 --> 00:49:40.110
and saw this article about Slash's guitars, and

00:49:40.110 --> 00:49:43.050
he recognized Joe Perry's guitar. And he showed

00:49:43.050 --> 00:49:44.829
it to Joe and said, hey, look, Slash has got

00:49:44.829 --> 00:49:48.489
your guitar now. So Joe Perry called Slash and

00:49:48.489 --> 00:49:53.130
said, can I buy my guitar back? And Slash is

00:49:53.130 --> 00:49:55.070
like, you know what? This is part of my story

00:49:55.070 --> 00:49:59.090
now, and it's in my collection. It plays. I really

00:49:59.090 --> 00:50:01.489
don't want to part with it. I understand, but

00:50:01.489 --> 00:50:03.750
I really don't want to part with it. Well, Joe

00:50:03.750 --> 00:50:05.989
kept calling him over the years and kept saying,

00:50:06.150 --> 00:50:07.949
you sure you don't want to give me that? I'd

00:50:07.949 --> 00:50:10.070
really love to have that. And he just kept needling

00:50:10.070 --> 00:50:13.099
with him. Okay, fast forward to the year 2000.

00:50:13.320 --> 00:50:16.719
It's Joe Perry's 50th birthday party. He hired

00:50:16.719 --> 00:50:19.840
Cheap Trick to come play for him. And he got

00:50:19.840 --> 00:50:22.079
up on stage and was playing with Cheap Trick

00:50:22.079 --> 00:50:26.239
on guitar. Halfway through the set, Joe's guitar

00:50:26.239 --> 00:50:30.300
tech comes out with that 1959 Les Paul and said,

00:50:30.420 --> 00:50:33.539
here you go, it's a gift from Slash. He thinks

00:50:33.539 --> 00:50:36.320
it's time that she's returned to you. And Joe

00:50:36.320 --> 00:50:40.400
Perry was just out beside himself. And he played

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.360
it for the rest of the show. And then he has

00:50:43.360 --> 00:50:46.579
hired a security guard specifically for that

00:50:46.579 --> 00:50:49.739
guitar. Every time it leaves Joe's house, that

00:50:49.739 --> 00:50:51.679
security guard never lets it out of the sight

00:50:51.679 --> 00:50:54.719
until the guitar is handed to the guitar tech

00:50:54.719 --> 00:50:57.300
who hands it to Joe Perry. And then when Joe's

00:50:57.300 --> 00:50:59.179
done, the tech brings it back, puts it in the

00:50:59.179 --> 00:51:01.139
case, and the security guard never lets it out

00:51:01.139 --> 00:51:02.940
of the sight until it's back home in Joe's house.

00:51:03.059 --> 00:51:06.440
That was so cool to slash, though. It is. It

00:51:06.440 --> 00:51:11.280
is. Coincidentally, there's a couple of things

00:51:11.280 --> 00:51:13.199
about Aerosmith. Oh, do you have something to

00:51:13.199 --> 00:51:15.820
add? I was just going to say, Joe Perry got on

00:51:15.820 --> 00:51:21.360
the Conan show and said, Slash has got the biggest

00:51:21.360 --> 00:51:23.199
heart of anyone I've ever known. I don't know

00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:25.500
how it fits in his chest. He's such a great guy.

00:51:25.699 --> 00:51:28.550
And he made sure the whole world knew. This is

00:51:28.550 --> 00:51:30.630
what Slash did for me because he's such a good

00:51:30.630 --> 00:51:32.989
person. Yeah, you know what? I agree with him

00:51:32.989 --> 00:51:35.570
100%. Man, that takes a really good guy to do

00:51:35.570 --> 00:51:40.090
that. Yeah. Jimmy Crispo, he joined Aerosmith,

00:51:40.130 --> 00:51:43.969
and he was the only sober one there. And he was

00:51:43.969 --> 00:51:46.369
like, I remember reading, I mean, he's dead now,

00:51:46.429 --> 00:51:48.469
but I remember reading, you know, he's like going,

00:51:48.530 --> 00:51:50.949
I don't know what to do, man. I'm trying to rehearse

00:51:50.949 --> 00:51:56.340
and nobody's around. And Mick Mars and Aerosmith

00:51:56.340 --> 00:51:59.820
almost got into a fist fight. Oh, gosh. Yeah,

00:51:59.920 --> 00:52:03.099
Mick Mars was playing in the same studios that

00:52:03.099 --> 00:52:06.179
Aerosmith was. They were practicing. Mick Mars

00:52:06.179 --> 00:52:09.260
just sold out and kept bleeding into their recordings.

00:52:09.699 --> 00:52:12.239
I can see getting upset about that, yeah. So

00:52:12.239 --> 00:52:14.239
they kept sending someone down, knocking on Mick

00:52:14.239 --> 00:52:18.059
Mars' door or whatever. And Mick Mars is finally

00:52:18.059 --> 00:52:20.119
like, you keep fucking interrupting me. He jumped

00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:21.940
out there and he was going to go say something

00:52:21.940 --> 00:52:24.340
to Aerosmith, but it's this guy. And he goes,

00:52:24.340 --> 00:52:26.360
you tell those guys to get the fuck out of here.

00:52:26.420 --> 00:52:28.719
I'm not leaving. And then they're going to go

00:52:28.719 --> 00:52:30.980
down and visit him. And the guy that was like

00:52:30.980 --> 00:52:34.199
the go -between finally just quit doing it. He's

00:52:34.199 --> 00:52:36.320
just like, I'm not doing it. And I guess they

00:52:36.320 --> 00:52:39.719
didn't get into a fight. Yeah, yeah. That was

00:52:39.719 --> 00:52:45.809
smart. Quit delivering the message. Well, nobody's

00:52:45.809 --> 00:52:47.610
wanted to leave their rehearsal session, but

00:52:47.610 --> 00:52:49.949
they're both pissed. But they have made up since

00:52:49.949 --> 00:52:54.130
then. That's good. Yeah. So there's the part

00:52:54.130 --> 00:52:59.150
we missed. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the guy

00:52:59.150 --> 00:53:01.829
coming by putting something on her. Oh, yeah.

00:53:01.989 --> 00:53:04.550
Yeah. I'll look at it later. I put it underneath

00:53:04.550 --> 00:53:06.809
there so it won't blow away. I have some bullet

00:53:06.809 --> 00:53:08.510
points if you want to get in them. Yes, sir.

00:53:10.230 --> 00:53:12.940
Um. Will there be any unreleased material from

00:53:12.940 --> 00:53:16.000
Ozzy that's suddenly found? Yes. Yeah, I think

00:53:16.000 --> 00:53:18.260
there's going to be a lot of it. Yeah. And I'm

00:53:18.260 --> 00:53:21.239
hoping they'll eventually release all ten hours

00:53:21.239 --> 00:53:24.139
of that concert on video. Yeah, I know they're

00:53:24.139 --> 00:53:27.659
going to do the two -hour version of it. I'd

00:53:27.659 --> 00:53:28.980
like to see them release all of it. Or three

00:53:28.980 --> 00:53:31.719
-hour. It's either two or three. I wish they

00:53:31.719 --> 00:53:33.900
would do the whole thing. I could skip through

00:53:33.900 --> 00:53:36.679
the parts I don't like. That's fine. Or I could

00:53:36.679 --> 00:53:39.980
do it incrementally. Whatever. So I'd be willing

00:53:39.980 --> 00:53:43.280
to do that. And I imagine you know Sharon that

00:53:43.280 --> 00:53:47.320
will be available. I would think so. Yeah. And

00:53:47.320 --> 00:53:50.139
also, I think, if nothing else, not just for

00:53:50.139 --> 00:53:53.500
charity, but to salute her husband. Yeah. I think

00:53:53.500 --> 00:53:55.599
he deserves for the whole thing to be out. Yeah,

00:53:55.619 --> 00:53:58.260
yeah. I'd like to have a copy of it. I know that.

00:53:58.539 --> 00:54:01.400
Yeah. All those musicians. I mean, just like...

00:54:01.880 --> 00:54:04.059
Amazing. We'd love to see the interaction. Yeah.

00:54:04.179 --> 00:54:05.880
We would have loved to have been backstage and

00:54:05.880 --> 00:54:07.679
watched the way they all interact with each other

00:54:07.679 --> 00:54:09.800
and hang out. Like I said before, no one else

00:54:09.800 --> 00:54:13.139
would have known that Nuno was bowing to Jakey

00:54:13.139 --> 00:54:17.760
Lee, the forefather. Yeah. You know, on that

00:54:17.760 --> 00:54:20.099
fucking three -hour version, that's not going

00:54:20.099 --> 00:54:23.119
to be on there. Or where Black Sabbath left and

00:54:23.119 --> 00:54:25.719
they wanted Ozzy to soak it in and Ozzy was mad

00:54:25.719 --> 00:54:27.699
trying to get the whole band out there. And they

00:54:27.699 --> 00:54:30.360
said, no, Ozzy, this is for you. Yeah. You go

00:54:30.360 --> 00:54:32.340
out here, we may see a stage again, you're not

00:54:32.340 --> 00:54:35.360
going to. Please, just soak it up. And then they

00:54:35.360 --> 00:54:39.300
edited it. And they caused such a misunderstanding.

00:54:39.460 --> 00:54:41.400
Yeah, people thought that Black Sabbath walked

00:54:41.400 --> 00:54:44.420
off on him when they did not. And then Geezer

00:54:44.420 --> 00:54:47.420
Butler brought him a cake. A very cool cake.

00:54:47.539 --> 00:54:51.079
Look it up. But you would have never known that

00:54:51.079 --> 00:54:52.920
by the way it was edited, and that's probably

00:54:52.920 --> 00:54:54.820
the way the videos didn't come out and look like

00:54:54.820 --> 00:54:56.659
they walked off on you. And the people who were

00:54:56.659 --> 00:54:58.599
there and saw the show are the ones that said,

00:54:58.659 --> 00:55:00.579
oh, no, no, no, no, this is not right. Yeah,

00:55:00.579 --> 00:55:01.260
the ones that sent in the video, they're like,

00:55:01.400 --> 00:55:03.019
no, this is what happened. Yeah, because the

00:55:03.019 --> 00:55:05.500
video was on a two -hour delay. Yes, that was

00:55:05.500 --> 00:55:08.699
the other thing that was bullshit. Livestream,

00:55:08.800 --> 00:55:12.119
yeah, sure. Yep. It's like this podcast is live.

00:55:12.280 --> 00:55:14.920
It's like, I know, we get everybody, like I checked

00:55:14.920 --> 00:55:17.500
in here. It's live if you get down here. Yeah,

00:55:17.500 --> 00:55:19.940
it's live at this moment. We gave you notice.

00:55:20.139 --> 00:55:22.920
Yeah. We're here. Invent a time machine, show

00:55:22.920 --> 00:55:26.719
up right now. Right. Evidently, I haven't invented

00:55:26.719 --> 00:55:29.239
one yet. No. You're that or nobody cares. Yeah.

00:55:29.280 --> 00:55:31.019
I'm going to go with a second. Yeah, I would

00:55:31.019 --> 00:55:33.039
say so. I wouldn't come back to this time. Sunday

00:55:33.039 --> 00:55:35.860
morning, they're like, what? No, I'm not going.

00:55:35.980 --> 00:55:41.010
No. Fuck off. All right. When will Alice Cooper

00:55:41.010 --> 00:55:44.789
retire? You know, he has always said that he's

00:55:44.789 --> 00:55:49.210
going to wait for Mick Jagger to retire and then

00:55:49.210 --> 00:55:51.429
work one day longer than Mick Jagger's career

00:55:51.429 --> 00:55:54.809
so he can retire ahead of Mick Jagger. That's

00:55:54.809 --> 00:55:57.969
always been the joke he told. I'm starting to

00:55:57.969 --> 00:56:01.750
think he's going to retire sooner. At one point,

00:56:01.769 --> 00:56:04.309
he talked about franchising the Alice Cooper

00:56:04.309 --> 00:56:07.489
idea as like turning it over to someone younger

00:56:07.489 --> 00:56:09.809
who will keep it going. I don't think that'll

00:56:09.809 --> 00:56:12.250
work. I don't think anyone will accept it unless

00:56:12.250 --> 00:56:18.769
it's him. Yeah. But he's, what, 76? 76. No, he's

00:56:18.769 --> 00:56:22.429
77. 77. He's one year older, yeah. Yeah. So he's

00:56:22.429 --> 00:56:24.989
still going strong, still touring. He still does

00:56:24.989 --> 00:56:29.050
great. Yeah. His voice held up. Yep. And he's

00:56:29.050 --> 00:56:31.329
still putting out new albums. His recent album's

00:56:31.329 --> 00:56:33.630
called Road. It's pretty decent. Yeah. The one

00:56:33.630 --> 00:56:35.690
weird thing is there was this whole big thing

00:56:35.690 --> 00:56:39.739
about this... New guitar player named Yossi,

00:56:39.860 --> 00:56:45.139
who was very, what's the word, not ambidextrous,

00:56:45.179 --> 00:56:51.840
anthropomorphic. Agile. Androgynous. Androgynous,

00:56:51.860 --> 00:56:54.579
that's it. He's very androgynous, which was exactly

00:56:54.579 --> 00:56:57.059
the way the Alice Cooper group was back in 67

00:56:57.059 --> 00:57:01.820
and 68 and 69. So there's a big deal about how

00:57:01.820 --> 00:57:04.420
he's the new lead guitarist, and then it all

00:57:04.420 --> 00:57:06.340
disappeared and you never heard about him again.

00:57:06.889 --> 00:57:09.429
He's out on the road without him. He did the

00:57:09.429 --> 00:57:12.989
album without him. He's got a new album out called

00:57:12.989 --> 00:57:15.969
The Revenge of Alice Cooper with all of his original

00:57:15.969 --> 00:57:18.789
bandmates. The guy's not on there either. So

00:57:18.789 --> 00:57:21.610
what was the deal with him? Why did he go to

00:57:21.610 --> 00:57:24.349
this big deal of introducing this guy? Here's

00:57:24.349 --> 00:57:26.269
our new lead guitarist. I'm going to say that

00:57:26.269 --> 00:57:30.510
they... They figured out that it wasn't received

00:57:30.510 --> 00:57:32.829
well and they didn't want to make a big deal

00:57:32.829 --> 00:57:35.190
out of it. That sounds like it's probably it.

00:57:35.409 --> 00:57:41.130
Yeah. Think about Alice Cooper fans. Yeah. 90

00:57:41.130 --> 00:57:44.639
% of them probably watch Fox News. I think so.

00:57:45.019 --> 00:57:47.780
Alice is a pretty conservative guy. Yes, he is.

00:57:47.820 --> 00:57:50.539
He is. He's a born -again Christian. Yeah. He's

00:57:50.539 --> 00:57:53.739
into family values. Yeah. I'm saying this right

00:57:53.739 --> 00:57:55.679
here. He's a big golf nut. I'll bet you they're

00:57:55.679 --> 00:57:57.239
like, I ain't going to go see that with that

00:57:57.239 --> 00:58:00.619
damn head over there. That type of thing. So

00:58:00.619 --> 00:58:02.460
he's like, you know what? This is causing too

00:58:02.460 --> 00:58:04.679
much bullshit. I'm just going to have to stop

00:58:04.679 --> 00:58:07.260
it. And getting back together with his original

00:58:07.260 --> 00:58:10.199
band members has been much better received. Yes.

00:58:10.239 --> 00:58:13.630
People love it. I mean, that was the whole deal

00:58:13.630 --> 00:58:16.130
with Back to the Beginning, too. Yeah. It was

00:58:16.130 --> 00:58:18.150
like, you know, the originals all get back together.

00:58:18.769 --> 00:58:20.949
Although I have to admit, when it comes to Sabbath,

00:58:21.070 --> 00:58:24.710
my favorite version was the Dio. Yeah, that was

00:58:24.710 --> 00:58:26.630
really good. Boy, they just had a completely

00:58:26.630 --> 00:58:31.269
different sound. Heavier, darker. I really enjoyed

00:58:31.269 --> 00:58:37.269
it. Yeah. It was... Besides Iommi's guitar, you

00:58:37.269 --> 00:58:39.329
wouldn't know it was the same band. And, you

00:58:39.329 --> 00:58:42.199
know, the Ozzy solo stuff at the time. It was

00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:45.239
just as heavy, but it was fun, happy party music.

00:58:45.440 --> 00:58:48.340
It was like get excited, have fun, drink beer,

00:58:48.460 --> 00:58:50.780
stare at girls kind of music. Yeah, and that

00:58:50.780 --> 00:58:53.099
was Sharon. Sharon was like, come on, let's go

00:58:53.099 --> 00:58:55.780
to L .A. We're going to go look for a new guitarist.

00:58:55.780 --> 00:58:58.059
You're not doing that stuff back then. You're

00:58:58.059 --> 00:59:02.380
your own self now. And that was so smart to not

00:59:02.380 --> 00:59:05.139
have Ozzy competing directly with Sabbath when

00:59:05.139 --> 00:59:07.300
they were both starting to, you know. I mean,

00:59:07.300 --> 00:59:10.139
look at it. It would never have worked. No. Instead,

00:59:10.179 --> 00:59:13.199
he found a new phenom. It worked out great for

00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:16.780
us because we got two awesome musical forces

00:59:16.780 --> 00:59:23.199
instead of one. You know, radio stations had

00:59:23.199 --> 00:59:25.880
fucking boners. Oh, hell yeah. First Ozzy came

00:59:25.880 --> 00:59:27.719
out and they're like, man, this shit is great.

00:59:27.920 --> 00:59:29.400
And then Sabbath came out. And they're like,

00:59:29.519 --> 00:59:32.340
man, this shit is great. And you could play them

00:59:32.340 --> 00:59:34.340
against each other. You could play the fans against

00:59:34.340 --> 00:59:37.059
each other for more ratings. Yeah, it was awesome

00:59:37.059 --> 00:59:39.280
times. Yeah, I'm sure they had a fucking blast

00:59:39.280 --> 00:59:43.920
with that. Yeah. All right, the next one. I can

00:59:43.920 --> 00:59:46.719
see KY going against SuperQ on that one. Oh,

00:59:46.719 --> 00:59:49.719
yeah. I think SuperQ. Wasn't that more poppy,

00:59:49.719 --> 00:59:54.519
though? I think around 75 or 76 or 77. Yeah,

00:59:54.579 --> 00:59:56.440
they were pretty pop in the top 40, but then

00:59:56.440 --> 00:59:59.079
they went country. Yeah, that was in the 90s.

00:59:59.079 --> 01:00:01.139
Their philosophy, when they started the radio

01:00:01.139 --> 01:00:04.039
station, they said, whatever the number one music

01:00:04.039 --> 01:00:06.960
format is, that's what our format will be. And

01:00:06.960 --> 01:00:09.599
when country became more popular than pop and

01:00:09.599 --> 01:00:12.760
top 40, they switched formats and it worked for

01:00:12.760 --> 01:00:16.099
them. In one night, I knew people that worked

01:00:16.099 --> 01:00:20.500
there, KBQ lost 40 ,000 listeners. Yep. Because

01:00:20.500 --> 01:00:25.880
of two things, grunge and country. Yep. But they

01:00:25.880 --> 01:00:29.139
got them all back. Pop music was dead. Country

01:00:29.139 --> 01:00:31.320
was big and grunge was big. So they're like,

01:00:31.380 --> 01:00:34.079
we're going to go do country. That's where glam

01:00:34.079 --> 01:00:37.480
went anyhow. In the 90s, young country was glam.

01:00:37.980 --> 01:00:42.579
Reinvented. And now country is borrowing heavily

01:00:42.579 --> 01:00:45.039
from hard rock now. Yes, I know. You get these

01:00:45.039 --> 01:00:48.179
screaming distorted guitars in a country song

01:00:48.179 --> 01:00:50.659
about mama in your pickup truck. Yeah. Okay.

01:00:50.980 --> 01:00:53.829
Rock used to follow country. Other way around

01:00:53.829 --> 01:00:56.849
now. But then again, rock has an identity crisis

01:00:56.849 --> 01:01:00.010
again. Yeah, that's true. It's never going to

01:01:00.010 --> 01:01:02.030
come back because they cannot figure out what

01:01:02.030 --> 01:01:05.250
people like. Yeah. The best solution is just

01:01:05.250 --> 01:01:07.909
play. Bands should just play what they like and

01:01:07.909 --> 01:01:09.309
what they're good at, and you'll find an audience.

01:01:09.309 --> 01:01:11.170
That's the problem. They have too much pressure,

01:01:11.389 --> 01:01:14.429
record companies, producers. Chase the demographic.

01:01:14.829 --> 01:01:17.949
Yes, you've got to do this. Yeah, it worked out

01:01:17.949 --> 01:01:20.469
well for Motley. Oh, wait, maybe that was a bad

01:01:20.469 --> 01:01:25.570
example. So, all right. Who was the band that

01:01:25.570 --> 01:01:28.869
was disinvited from back to the beginning? I

01:01:28.869 --> 01:01:32.150
don't know any names, but I remember hearing

01:01:32.150 --> 01:01:33.889
that there were bands that showed up and really

01:01:33.889 --> 01:01:36.670
wanted a slice of the pie, and Sharon said, get

01:01:36.670 --> 01:01:39.289
the fuck out. Yes. Not even going to consider

01:01:39.289 --> 01:01:41.769
it. As long as you have that attitude, we don't

01:01:41.769 --> 01:01:43.869
want you on our stage. I don't know who they

01:01:43.869 --> 01:01:46.110
were, though. There was one band in particular

01:01:46.110 --> 01:01:48.530
that was, I guess, a pretty big band, and they

01:01:48.530 --> 01:01:51.329
went, well, now it's just Sharon. They wouldn't

01:01:51.329 --> 01:01:54.690
reveal it. I have a theory. Everyone said it

01:01:54.690 --> 01:01:56.730
was Motley, but Motley came back with a bet and

01:01:56.730 --> 01:01:58.969
just said it was not us. Yeah. We have some health

01:01:58.969 --> 01:02:00.989
issues going on. We would never do that to Ozzy.

01:02:00.989 --> 01:02:03.250
I believe it. Yeah. It was too quick and too,

01:02:03.309 --> 01:02:06.230
like, no, I didn't. Yeah. Even though I don't

01:02:06.230 --> 01:02:08.369
have a lot of respect for Motley Crue's business

01:02:08.369 --> 01:02:10.630
decisions. Me neither. Me neither. I don't think

01:02:10.630 --> 01:02:14.110
they did that. Yeah. John Five has some medical

01:02:14.110 --> 01:02:19.389
things going on. Oh, gosh. Yeah. John 5, I think,

01:02:19.449 --> 01:02:21.650
is going to end up quitting Motley, anyhow. People

01:02:21.650 --> 01:02:24.809
hate him in there. Yeah. The people who loved

01:02:24.809 --> 01:02:27.449
him hate him in there. Yeah. The people who love

01:02:27.449 --> 01:02:29.809
Motley hate him in there. Yeah. Yeah, the Motley

01:02:29.809 --> 01:02:32.630
fans don't want him, and his previous fans are

01:02:32.630 --> 01:02:34.449
waiting for him to quit doing this so they can

01:02:34.449 --> 01:02:36.710
like him again. They want him to come back. Yeah.

01:02:37.349 --> 01:02:41.289
Yeah, so. Okay, I have a theory. I read where,

01:02:41.409 --> 01:02:47.090
I forgot the number. Dave Ellison was not in

01:02:47.090 --> 01:02:48.869
because he's not in Megadeth anymore, and he

01:02:48.869 --> 01:02:52.170
was actually at the show. Yeah. It was a member

01:02:52.170 --> 01:02:55.750
of Megadeth said, we were in Europe, and because

01:02:55.750 --> 01:02:57.869
people said the other big three were there, why

01:02:57.869 --> 01:02:59.949
were you not there? And besides, they've been

01:02:59.949 --> 01:03:02.090
friends with Ozzy over the years and played with

01:03:02.090 --> 01:03:05.309
him and stuff. And one of the band members, not

01:03:05.309 --> 01:03:07.909
even Dave Mustaine, said this. They said, well,

01:03:07.989 --> 01:03:12.210
we were in Europe at the same time, and we sent

01:03:12.210 --> 01:03:16.559
a message to our manager. about lining it up

01:03:16.559 --> 01:03:19.880
so we could be there. I'll bet you the manager

01:03:19.880 --> 01:03:22.539
tried to get a slice of the pie from the band,

01:03:22.739 --> 01:03:26.380
and it wasn't even anybody like Dave Mustaine

01:03:26.380 --> 01:03:28.099
or anybody's fault. It was the manager. That

01:03:28.099 --> 01:03:31.280
makes sense, yeah. And that's probably why Sharon

01:03:31.280 --> 01:03:33.519
won't say. She knows what happened. She's like,

01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:35.400
well... She didn't want to smear the band for

01:03:35.400 --> 01:03:37.460
what their manager did. Yes, and here's another

01:03:37.460 --> 01:03:40.179
example. Good idea. You know why Jakey Lee showed

01:03:40.179 --> 01:03:45.199
up? Tom Morello personally called him. Ah. Tom

01:03:45.199 --> 01:03:46.739
Morello's sitting there looking at the lineup.

01:03:46.860 --> 01:03:50.000
He goes, this is missing J .D. Lee. He goes,

01:03:50.000 --> 01:03:53.079
this guy was a huge one. He was a guy that followed

01:03:53.079 --> 01:03:56.679
Randy and took it in another direction, and people

01:03:56.679 --> 01:03:59.639
still loved him and still followed him. I'm a

01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:02.679
huge Jake fan. I mean, I can't compare him and

01:04:02.679 --> 01:04:04.800
Zach. They're completely different, but they're

01:04:04.800 --> 01:04:06.980
both fantastic players. It's kind of like when

01:04:06.980 --> 01:04:09.420
David Gilmour replaced Sid Barrett in Pink Floyd.

01:04:09.980 --> 01:04:12.079
Changed the sound, made them what they were.

01:04:13.389 --> 01:04:16.769
You don't disrespect Dave Gilmore? No, no. It's

01:04:16.769 --> 01:04:18.889
like they're both, yeah, they're both did their

01:04:18.889 --> 01:04:24.610
own part. Yeah. So I think it was a megadeth.

01:04:24.730 --> 01:04:28.519
Yeah. I got misunderstanding. Because this is

01:04:28.519 --> 01:04:31.199
the type of thing where Dave Mustaine has Sharon's

01:04:31.199 --> 01:04:34.420
number. He should have called her himself. Yeah.

01:04:34.539 --> 01:04:36.860
If this is indeed what happened, he should have

01:04:36.860 --> 01:04:40.159
said, Hey, Sharon, we love Oz. We love you. What

01:04:40.159 --> 01:04:42.300
do we got to do? We want to be there. We want

01:04:42.300 --> 01:04:45.340
to be part of it. Since that didn't happen, I'll

01:04:45.340 --> 01:04:51.119
bet you money got bought. I imagine Megadeth

01:04:51.119 --> 01:04:53.840
is having some words with their management. Might

01:04:53.840 --> 01:04:59.039
have fired him. Yeah. All right. Ozzy stated

01:04:59.039 --> 01:05:00.960
the week before he passed that his next album

01:05:00.960 --> 01:05:03.420
was going to be with Zach Wilde. He said because

01:05:03.420 --> 01:05:07.920
of fans, because the fans demanded it, and he

01:05:07.920 --> 01:05:09.579
was going to do the songs of Jakey Lee, too,

01:05:09.679 --> 01:05:13.440
on their own. But he got away from Zach Wilde.

01:05:13.539 --> 01:05:16.980
He was using various other musicians and Andrew

01:05:16.980 --> 01:05:22.400
Watt. So, and Andrew Watt was a producer, too,

01:05:22.539 --> 01:05:25.820
and a guitarist on Ordinary Man. And he played

01:05:25.820 --> 01:05:29.219
some songs on Patient No. 9. Yeah. And he produced

01:05:29.219 --> 01:05:32.500
that. So, it was going to go back to Zach because

01:05:32.500 --> 01:05:34.699
people wanted it. And there's a big, you know,

01:05:34.719 --> 01:05:37.480
big clear -cut gathering of people who said,

01:05:37.500 --> 01:05:39.099
we want Zach, we want you guys to do something

01:05:39.099 --> 01:05:41.440
with Zach. Yeah, yeah. And so they're going to

01:05:41.440 --> 01:05:44.219
do that. So my question is, will Zach release

01:05:44.219 --> 01:05:48.150
a tribute song or album for Ozzy? I think so.

01:05:48.849 --> 01:05:51.030
I thought you were going to ask, is Zach going

01:05:51.030 --> 01:05:53.409
to go ahead with the stuff he was going to do

01:05:53.409 --> 01:05:55.090
with Ozzy and do it himself? Yeah, I think it's

01:05:55.090 --> 01:05:57.230
going to be a tribute. He'll do it as a tribute,

01:05:57.309 --> 01:05:59.050
but he's not going to say it. He sings just like

01:05:59.050 --> 01:06:02.969
him. Yeah, he does. Why wouldn't he? Yeah. I

01:06:02.969 --> 01:06:06.489
mean, and Zach is really, really good, despite

01:06:06.489 --> 01:06:11.369
what people think on ballads. Silent Prayer is

01:06:11.369 --> 01:06:15.769
his solo, true solo project, and that song is

01:06:15.769 --> 01:06:20.000
amazing. He's got some interesting, I mean, he

01:06:20.000 --> 01:06:22.559
doesn't just have like that southern, he doesn't

01:06:22.559 --> 01:06:24.699
have that chug -chug stuff. He does everything.

01:06:25.119 --> 01:06:28.860
He does Hendrix. Felt like Hendrix. Yeah. He

01:06:28.860 --> 01:06:31.840
does Dimebag Darryl. Oh, wow. Just like Dimebag.

01:06:31.860 --> 01:06:35.119
I mean, I can't tell the difference. I was trying

01:06:35.119 --> 01:06:38.420
to think of situations where another member of

01:06:38.420 --> 01:06:42.159
the band sounds just like the lead singer. Because

01:06:42.159 --> 01:06:44.260
you're saying Zach Wild sounds just like Ozzy.

01:06:44.929 --> 01:06:49.590
Well, a lot of times, that's why if he wasn't

01:06:49.590 --> 01:06:51.989
on the album, he would tour with him. He backed

01:06:51.989 --> 01:06:55.309
up Oz's voice a lot. I know in The Doors, their

01:06:55.309 --> 01:06:58.409
keyboard player, Ray Manzarek, sounded just like

01:06:58.409 --> 01:07:00.409
Jim Morrison. And when Morrison was too drunk

01:07:00.409 --> 01:07:05.170
to perform, he would be there. Let's see. In

01:07:05.170 --> 01:07:09.050
Genesis... Peter Gabriel was their lead singer,

01:07:09.210 --> 01:07:11.670
and Phil Collins was the drummer. He sounded

01:07:11.670 --> 01:07:13.789
just like him. That's why they elected him after

01:07:13.789 --> 01:07:18.730
him. And let's see, the Alice Cooper group, their

01:07:18.730 --> 01:07:21.190
rhythm guitarist, Michael Bruce, sounded just

01:07:21.190 --> 01:07:24.210
like Alice, so he could fill in. Jack Bruce's

01:07:24.210 --> 01:07:28.380
brother. Yes. That could be. Lenny Bruce's brother

01:07:28.380 --> 01:07:30.099
-in -law. Lenny Bruce's brother -in -law, yes.

01:07:32.219 --> 01:07:37.219
And Bruce Wayne's third nephew. Yes. Are you

01:07:37.219 --> 01:07:39.019
going to say third nipple? Third nipple, yeah.

01:07:39.480 --> 01:07:41.840
Bruce Wayne's third nipple. Yeah, there have

01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:43.960
been a number of bands where there's somebody

01:07:43.960 --> 01:07:45.920
else in the band who can sing just like the singer.

01:07:46.059 --> 01:07:47.860
Yeah. And it makes sense. You listen to the guy

01:07:47.860 --> 01:07:49.639
all the time. You kind of learn to sing like

01:07:49.639 --> 01:07:54.409
him. Yeah. Well, when I went to Zack's Sabbath,

01:07:54.469 --> 01:07:58.190
I was amazed. Because when I went to the bathroom,

01:07:58.369 --> 01:08:01.690
I didn't imagine Zack on stage. I imagined Ozzy

01:08:01.690 --> 01:08:04.449
on stage. Because he's singing Symptom of the

01:08:04.449 --> 01:08:06.210
Universe when I was taking a piss. It's like,

01:08:06.269 --> 01:08:07.989
all right, it's kind of a little bit more of

01:08:07.989 --> 01:08:10.230
a mellow song. I can go safely take a piss and

01:08:10.230 --> 01:08:12.969
not miss anything. Remember Zach Wild's little

01:08:12.969 --> 01:08:15.610
short -lived band, Pride and Glory? Yes. And

01:08:15.610 --> 01:08:18.810
the song, Losing Your Mind? Yeah. He sounds nothing

01:08:18.810 --> 01:08:22.430
like Ozbeon. Oh, I know. He's all dark and growly.

01:08:22.489 --> 01:08:25.050
Yes. Guy's got an amazing voice if he can do

01:08:25.050 --> 01:08:28.229
all that. I know. He does. He won't ever get

01:08:28.229 --> 01:08:30.569
the credit because he's such a guitar player.

01:08:31.250 --> 01:08:33.909
I like that song, Losing Your Mind. It is good.

01:08:34.109 --> 01:08:37.109
It's the most hard -rocking song I've ever heard

01:08:37.109 --> 01:08:43.569
that still has a banjo in it. The song kicks

01:08:43.569 --> 01:08:49.869
ass, and the banjo's okay. Awesome. You talk

01:08:49.869 --> 01:08:52.550
about a talented individual, though. Yeah. I

01:08:52.550 --> 01:08:55.770
wonder if that was Zach on the banjo. I would

01:08:55.770 --> 01:08:57.989
say, yeah. Knowing him? Kind of sounded like

01:08:57.989 --> 01:09:00.430
him playing a banjo like a guitar. Well, they

01:09:00.430 --> 01:09:02.670
have video footage of him. He played acoustic

01:09:02.670 --> 01:09:05.979
in Ozzy's Graveside. Oh, wow. Evidently, it was

01:09:05.979 --> 01:09:08.560
such a tearjerker that people were just like,

01:09:08.680 --> 01:09:10.880
they're like, all right, Zach, that's it, two

01:09:10.880 --> 01:09:14.079
songs that we can't take anymore. You're getting

01:09:14.079 --> 01:09:16.340
all in our feels, man. Oh, yeah, everybody was

01:09:16.340 --> 01:09:20.500
all like, just blah. But he looked great. He

01:09:20.500 --> 01:09:22.180
was dressed in all black, and he was carrying

01:09:22.180 --> 01:09:26.739
his two acoustics, and he loved the guy. His

01:09:26.739 --> 01:09:31.340
life has really taken off since he got sober.

01:09:31.869 --> 01:09:34.409
I mean, just everything is working out well for

01:09:34.409 --> 01:09:38.609
him. So glad for him. Oh, I am too. I still love

01:09:38.609 --> 01:09:41.829
Oz's story about when he first started No Rest

01:09:41.829 --> 01:09:44.949
for the Wicked Tour. They're in Japan. And Zach

01:09:44.949 --> 01:09:47.489
had no idea about how anything worked. So they're

01:09:47.489 --> 01:09:51.189
in this luxury hotel. And they're in Zach's room.

01:09:51.989 --> 01:09:54.970
And Zach goes and he grabs a bottle of wine from

01:09:54.970 --> 01:09:58.590
the mini bar and pops it open. And Oz is like,

01:09:58.710 --> 01:10:04.350
Zach! That thing's like $1 ,000. What? Yeah,

01:10:04.369 --> 01:10:06.010
yeah, yeah. Anything from there, that's a lot

01:10:06.010 --> 01:10:09.670
of money. And he's like, oh, shit. So he goes,

01:10:09.789 --> 01:10:11.789
all right. He goes, no problem. He takes the

01:10:11.789 --> 01:10:14.810
cork. He sticks it in his pants, rubs it around

01:10:14.810 --> 01:10:18.170
his asshole. He pulls it back out. And he called

01:10:18.170 --> 01:10:21.930
up room service or whoever, the main day. Concierge.

01:10:21.930 --> 01:10:24.930
The concierge. And he goes, man, he goes, he

01:10:24.930 --> 01:10:27.989
goes. Come up here, I need you right now. So

01:10:27.989 --> 01:10:30.649
the guy comes up there, he goes, hey, I'm not

01:10:30.649 --> 01:10:32.729
going to pay for this, the wine's bad. No, no,

01:10:32.750 --> 01:10:34.810
no, no, wine good, wine good. No, the wine's

01:10:34.810 --> 01:10:36.829
bad. No, no, no, wine's good. Then he takes a

01:10:36.829 --> 01:10:40.470
fork, sticks it in his nose, and the guy goes,

01:10:40.569 --> 01:10:50.170
wine bad. Damn. And then another story is, Zach

01:10:50.170 --> 01:10:52.869
was in the bathroom, and the rest of them were

01:10:52.869 --> 01:10:55.779
over. And so I guess they, like, tore the door

01:10:55.779 --> 01:10:59.439
open and started pelting them with, like, I don't

01:10:59.439 --> 01:11:02.220
know, like spitballs or something. Wads of wet

01:11:02.220 --> 01:11:03.880
toilet paper. Yeah, whatever they could find.

01:11:04.380 --> 01:11:07.020
Zach got so infuriated he grabbed his own shit

01:11:07.020 --> 01:11:11.460
and started tossing it. You don't see that in

01:11:11.460 --> 01:11:13.960
the monkey house in the zoo, man. No, they all

01:11:13.960 --> 01:11:16.180
left. They're like, you won, you won. They're

01:11:16.180 --> 01:11:18.659
throwing shit, man. Let's get out of here. Yeah,

01:11:18.680 --> 01:11:21.760
he won. Yeah, I think I would, he was like. Now

01:11:21.760 --> 01:11:26.239
I'm tapping out. Sorry I went there. So, all

01:11:26.239 --> 01:11:28.859
right, we get back to this. Will Jake, I'm sorry,

01:11:28.979 --> 01:11:32.279
will Jakey Lee ever report again? Yes. Okay.

01:11:32.340 --> 01:11:35.220
I think so. I forgot to ask you, how are you

01:11:35.220 --> 01:11:36.760
on time? I know you're going to go to the jam.

01:11:37.020 --> 01:11:38.979
Well, I'm okay. Okay. I'm going to have to take

01:11:38.979 --> 01:11:42.380
a break here. I'm going to drain the horse. Go

01:11:42.380 --> 01:11:44.199
ahead and pause it. That's fine. I need a little

01:11:44.199 --> 01:11:47.039
break anyhow. We're both back to where we want

01:11:47.039 --> 01:11:49.340
to be. Yeah. Then after we get this done, we

01:11:49.340 --> 01:11:51.020
go hunt down something to eat, if that's cool.

01:11:51.199 --> 01:11:56.659
Yeah. All right. Destroy some chow. Yeah. All

01:11:56.659 --> 01:11:58.699
righty. So you were doing bullet points before

01:11:58.699 --> 01:12:02.140
I had you go pee. Okay. All right. Jakey Lee,

01:12:02.260 --> 01:12:04.439
we both think he's going to record again. I hope

01:12:04.439 --> 01:12:07.619
so. I believe he will. I hope so, too. I want

01:12:07.619 --> 01:12:11.880
to hear stuff like he used to do. Not Badlands.

01:12:12.140 --> 01:12:15.840
Yeah. And not... Red Dragon Cartel or anything

01:12:15.840 --> 01:12:18.699
else. Not like George Lynch's rap album. Oh,

01:12:18.699 --> 01:12:24.680
God. That was the worst piece of shit ever. If

01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:27.479
he ever hears this, he's going to be mad. Someone

01:12:27.479 --> 01:12:30.720
brought that up. Yes. Hey, he put it out, man.

01:12:30.819 --> 01:12:33.239
Yes, I know. And at the time, he was very proud

01:12:33.239 --> 01:12:37.260
of it. I know. He's probably like, oh, man. You

01:12:37.260 --> 01:12:39.939
know, right here. Hours of youth. Yeah. He's

01:12:39.939 --> 01:12:43.180
kind of like Zach Del Rocha. Why? Why did I do

01:12:43.180 --> 01:12:45.880
that? Why did I do that? I had it made with rage.

01:12:46.199 --> 01:12:50.619
I was angry and mean. Now I'm just kind of looked

01:12:50.619 --> 01:12:56.220
at like a fool. Anyhow. All right. Charlie Watts

01:12:56.220 --> 01:12:58.359
got it first. I know Mick Jones got it a long

01:12:58.359 --> 01:13:00.640
time ago. I think, wasn't it Mick Jones? The

01:13:00.640 --> 01:13:05.260
Stones? Who started it? Brian Jones. Brian Jones,

01:13:05.439 --> 01:13:08.399
yeah. Okay, I know he got it first, but now.

01:13:09.390 --> 01:13:11.710
Charlie Watts got it first. Who will be the next

01:13:11.710 --> 01:13:18.590
Stones to visit Mr. Grimm? Oh. See, Bill Wyman's

01:13:18.590 --> 01:13:24.409
gone. Charlie's gone. No, Bill Wyman got it before

01:13:24.409 --> 01:13:26.489
Charlie, didn't he? I think he did, yeah. Okay,

01:13:26.569 --> 01:13:28.770
I correct that. And then Brian Jones is gone.

01:13:29.130 --> 01:13:32.729
Ron Wood was in Stones for a long time. I think

01:13:32.729 --> 01:13:35.109
Ron Wood. I'm going to say Ron Wood. I'm going

01:13:35.109 --> 01:13:37.569
to say Ron Wood, too. I forgot about him. He

01:13:37.569 --> 01:13:39.569
was in there long enough to where I would consider

01:13:39.569 --> 01:13:42.369
him as... Yeah. He was in there long enough to

01:13:42.369 --> 01:13:44.609
start looking old and wrinkly like Keith Richards.

01:13:44.829 --> 01:13:48.170
Yes. See, that's what happens. These celebrities

01:13:48.170 --> 01:13:50.670
die and Keith Richards just gains life force.

01:13:50.810 --> 01:13:53.689
I know. He takes life from them. Wasn't the Highlanders

01:13:53.689 --> 01:13:59.270
the quickening? Yeah. What he is, he's a voodoo.

01:13:59.329 --> 01:14:02.689
He's a voodoo like Ms. Goldfinstein. Ms. Goldfinstein.

01:14:02.770 --> 01:14:06.300
Energy vampire. Yes. Only he didn't turn Rob

01:14:06.300 --> 01:14:12.039
into a capuchin monkey. No. All right. Rob Halford

01:14:12.039 --> 01:14:17.699
has an action figure. Oh, my. Why? Vegas can't

01:14:17.699 --> 01:14:21.039
sell that much. I guess being a lead singer,

01:14:21.159 --> 01:14:23.939
you do some stuff, but after you pose him with

01:14:23.939 --> 01:14:26.779
a microphone in his hand and then pose him on

01:14:26.779 --> 01:14:30.699
a Harley, what else do you do? I love Rob Halford.

01:14:30.739 --> 01:14:32.619
I love his piece, but who would want to do that?

01:14:33.260 --> 01:14:36.180
Who thought, who woke up one day and said, I

01:14:36.180 --> 01:14:40.199
got it. That's what the world needs. Just like

01:14:40.199 --> 01:14:42.539
A1 steak sauce was invented in the heart of the

01:14:42.539 --> 01:14:45.380
Civil War. Someone had to woke up and say, man,

01:14:45.399 --> 01:14:48.500
my steak is really bland. Oh shit, there goes

01:14:48.500 --> 01:14:51.060
another bullet. I wonder what I could do to put

01:14:51.060 --> 01:14:53.840
it on here. I could put on here to make the state

01:14:53.840 --> 01:14:56.460
more lively. It's like all the businesses that

01:14:56.460 --> 01:14:58.760
started in the depths of the Great Depression.

01:14:58.880 --> 01:15:02.060
It's like 1932, that was your first year? Damn.

01:15:02.079 --> 01:15:08.439
Well, I bet that was a bad one. Really? All right.

01:15:08.659 --> 01:15:10.960
So, yeah, we both cannot figure it out. It's

01:15:10.960 --> 01:15:13.579
baffling. Okay. I guess, you know, you try it

01:15:13.579 --> 01:15:15.439
and see. Yeah, I guess so. If they sell a billion

01:15:15.439 --> 01:15:18.039
of them, great. Yeah, if not, then... Hey, the

01:15:18.039 --> 01:15:20.789
ones you don't sell... You can repurpose them

01:15:20.789 --> 01:15:23.890
as like Grizzly Adams dolls. You're right. Or

01:15:23.890 --> 01:15:26.010
Zach Wild dolls. You can just, you know, change

01:15:26.010 --> 01:15:29.130
the color in the outfit a little bit. Yeah. Any

01:15:29.130 --> 01:15:34.970
big bearded guy. There we go. Oh, that's what

01:15:34.970 --> 01:15:37.909
they ought to do. A doll that they could transition

01:15:37.909 --> 01:15:41.770
into different dolls. Yes. Generic big bearded

01:15:41.770 --> 01:15:45.069
guy doll. Yes. Yeah. And you can have suggestions

01:15:45.069 --> 01:15:49.409
like Zach Wild and Rob Halford. Yeah, then you

01:15:49.409 --> 01:15:51.470
could buy those as, like, downloadable content.

01:15:51.770 --> 01:15:53.989
That's right. I'll buy a new skin for my doll.

01:15:54.289 --> 01:15:57.029
Yay! This week it looks like Gavin from Bush.

01:15:58.550 --> 01:16:00.470
Which is more scarier than any of them. Gavin

01:16:00.470 --> 01:16:02.810
Rossdale. Gavin Rossdale. Apparently Bush is

01:16:02.810 --> 01:16:06.149
still out there performing in the category of

01:16:06.149 --> 01:16:09.609
who gives a damn anymore. Yeah. It was somewhere

01:16:09.609 --> 01:16:15.210
close. Yeah. And that was a big no. I could get

01:16:15.210 --> 01:16:18.310
there for five bucks. No. Yeah. His biggest claim

01:16:18.310 --> 01:16:20.489
to fame anymore is that he was briefly married

01:16:20.489 --> 01:16:22.670
to Gwen Stefani. Yeah, and then she got some

01:16:22.670 --> 01:16:26.630
sense and left him. Yeah. All right, next one.

01:16:27.109 --> 01:16:31.729
Tony Omi has a solo effort coming out. Will it

01:16:31.729 --> 01:16:34.189
be the same sound or something different? And

01:16:34.189 --> 01:16:36.489
here's why I say that. Did you read any of the

01:16:36.489 --> 01:16:39.130
articles about the solo or the interview with

01:16:39.130 --> 01:16:42.149
Eddie Trunk? No. Okay. He's sticking with one

01:16:42.149 --> 01:16:46.810
singer on this. It's a true solo project. I'm

01:16:46.810 --> 01:16:49.210
thinking he's going to change it up. He's not

01:16:49.210 --> 01:16:51.909
going to go with that Sabbath set. No, I wouldn't

01:16:51.909 --> 01:16:55.069
think. No, I think that just like Chris Cornell

01:16:55.069 --> 01:16:57.810
when he came out with Euphora Morning. euphoria

01:16:57.810 --> 01:17:01.630
morning I went to that concert and people were

01:17:01.630 --> 01:17:03.649
walking out it was great because they thought

01:17:03.649 --> 01:17:07.390
he was going to do Soundgarden stuff and he already

01:17:07.390 --> 01:17:10.170
stated he goes no I love that stuff but I want

01:17:10.170 --> 01:17:12.449
to do something different this is my own music

01:17:12.449 --> 01:17:14.390
and that was the thing with Soundgarden always

01:17:14.390 --> 01:17:16.810
is whatever the last album sounded like we're

01:17:16.810 --> 01:17:18.590
not going to sound like that yeah and that's

01:17:18.590 --> 01:17:21.289
one thing that made him so successful yeah it's

01:17:21.289 --> 01:17:24.670
amazing that the fans didn't catch on yeah well

01:17:27.440 --> 01:17:30.439
I would say there's probably a way that Tony

01:17:30.439 --> 01:17:34.279
Iommi writes that doesn't fit the Black Sabbath,

01:17:34.479 --> 01:17:36.640
so he's just been hanging on to those songs.

01:17:36.800 --> 01:17:39.699
It's like, this is me, this is how I write, but

01:17:39.699 --> 01:17:41.899
this isn't a Black Sabbath song. So I'll just

01:17:41.899 --> 01:17:43.399
hang on to this. That's funny. That's exactly

01:17:43.399 --> 01:17:47.579
how I envisioned it, too. I have that one song

01:17:47.579 --> 01:17:51.779
that I did. You know, I made up when, you know,

01:17:51.779 --> 01:17:54.279
this period or whatever. It really didn't fit

01:17:54.279 --> 01:17:56.560
that album. Yeah. And, you know, they're in the

01:17:56.560 --> 01:17:59.859
vault. He has a vault of riffs. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

01:18:00.779 --> 01:18:02.920
I wish him and Brian May would get on it and

01:18:02.920 --> 01:18:04.979
release that album. Oh, my gosh. That'd be something

01:18:04.979 --> 01:18:06.899
else. Oh, geez. Him and Brian May. A couple of

01:18:06.899 --> 01:18:11.100
guitar gods. Yeah. An album and a book of riffs

01:18:11.100 --> 01:18:14.420
on how to play it. Yeah. Fuck. You'd think the

01:18:14.420 --> 01:18:16.800
guitar manufacturing industry would bankroll

01:18:16.800 --> 01:18:19.119
the whole thing. Let's get more people interested

01:18:19.119 --> 01:18:21.039
in guitar. Obviously, they don't know what's

01:18:21.039 --> 01:18:24.479
going to make money. Anybody like us would run

01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:26.279
out. Man, how quick would you run out and buy

01:18:26.279 --> 01:18:31.720
them? Yesterday? Yes. Oh, my God. Just to hear

01:18:31.720 --> 01:18:35.210
them and then read the music. I'm not sure if

01:18:35.210 --> 01:18:37.550
they do the music or the hand progressions. They

01:18:37.550 --> 01:18:39.829
would probably do the notation and also tabs.

01:18:40.710 --> 01:18:43.390
Not a whole lot of people read music anymore

01:18:43.390 --> 01:18:45.810
unless you're not playing rock and roll. Yeah,

01:18:45.810 --> 01:18:50.210
that's true. Eddie Van Halen didn't read music.

01:18:50.829 --> 01:18:54.010
There's another thing that was always wrong.

01:18:54.270 --> 01:18:57.189
I remember when the Beatles were popular. Yeah,

01:18:57.210 --> 01:19:00.189
I'm that old. I remember when Beatles came out

01:19:00.189 --> 01:19:04.729
with new songs. I don't, but I was around for

01:19:04.729 --> 01:19:07.890
the very last part of it. I wish 1966 was my

01:19:07.890 --> 01:19:12.989
birthday, but I don't remember it. I remember

01:19:12.989 --> 01:19:16.369
getting this story told to me multiple times

01:19:16.369 --> 01:19:19.390
by numerous people that the reason the Beatles

01:19:19.390 --> 01:19:22.430
were so successful at writing hits was that they

01:19:22.430 --> 01:19:25.109
all studied music, and they knew music theory

01:19:25.109 --> 01:19:27.069
backwards and forth, and they were all just very

01:19:27.069 --> 01:19:29.449
accomplished and went to college and studied

01:19:29.449 --> 01:19:31.829
and learned. I can see that. It was always a

01:19:31.829 --> 01:19:36.409
lie. That was how they compensated and dealt

01:19:36.409 --> 01:19:39.689
with the fact that all of these guys, none of

01:19:39.689 --> 01:19:41.890
them could read music. None of them knew anything

01:19:41.890 --> 01:19:44.350
about music theory. They did everything by ear.

01:19:44.489 --> 01:19:46.409
They didn't write anything down. They just got

01:19:46.409 --> 01:19:49.270
together and played. And the music establishment

01:19:49.270 --> 01:19:51.489
couldn't handle that they could be that good

01:19:51.489 --> 01:19:54.310
without formal training. So they invented formal

01:19:54.310 --> 01:19:58.170
training for them. Okay, they got me on that

01:19:58.170 --> 01:20:00.590
one. I never questioned it. I believed that until

01:20:00.590 --> 01:20:03.930
about a year ago. Wow. But yeah, the Beatles,

01:20:04.010 --> 01:20:06.590
everything was by ear. It's like, hey, remember

01:20:06.590 --> 01:20:08.909
that hook? Yeah, yeah, what was that? Let's do

01:20:08.909 --> 01:20:13.409
that. They just put together stuff by ear. Wow.

01:20:13.550 --> 01:20:16.229
And people like my father, who'd gone and spent

01:20:16.229 --> 01:20:20.630
six, seven years studying music, that just bugged

01:20:20.630 --> 01:20:22.310
the snob out of them, that they could be that

01:20:22.310 --> 01:20:24.989
good and didn't go through what he went through.

01:20:25.079 --> 01:20:27.579
Well, to him it probably wasn't possible. You

01:20:27.579 --> 01:20:29.939
would have to know music to do that. Yeah. Then

01:20:29.939 --> 01:20:32.659
find out no. Now, I remember my father's opinion

01:20:32.659 --> 01:20:35.300
of rock and roll music was it was all just kind

01:20:35.300 --> 01:20:41.079
of ugly and gray and bland. It's like reading

01:20:41.079 --> 01:20:42.979
a book and they only use eight different words.

01:20:43.000 --> 01:20:45.119
Which couldn't be further from the truth. True,

01:20:45.140 --> 01:20:48.239
true. But when the Beatles came on, he couldn't

01:20:48.239 --> 01:20:50.579
say that because that was really well -written

01:20:50.579 --> 01:20:53.159
music. And that pissed him right the fuck off.

01:20:53.680 --> 01:20:56.260
He didn't like hearing the Beatles because it

01:20:56.260 --> 01:20:59.060
made him feel bad about his life choices. Yeah.

01:20:59.899 --> 01:21:05.439
That's a good point. Yeah. Also, they wrote ditties.

01:21:05.479 --> 01:21:09.319
They wrote hits. They wrote songs that stuck

01:21:09.319 --> 01:21:12.000
in your head and tapped your toe to it. And at

01:21:12.000 --> 01:21:14.479
that point... Not with a white stance. Yeah.

01:21:15.310 --> 01:21:19.630
And at that point, vinyl record technology was

01:21:19.630 --> 01:21:22.130
limited to where when you'd release a single,

01:21:22.229 --> 01:21:26.210
it was actually on a 7 -inch 45 RPM disc. And

01:21:26.210 --> 01:21:28.569
that was it. And that was what the single was.

01:21:29.029 --> 01:21:32.130
And the technology was such that you could only

01:21:32.130 --> 01:21:34.829
get about two and a half to maybe three minutes

01:21:34.829 --> 01:21:37.949
on it before you just ran out of room. So that's

01:21:37.949 --> 01:21:40.590
why all his arms were short. That makes sense.

01:21:40.689 --> 01:21:44.369
Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, later on when

01:21:44.369 --> 01:21:46.829
they hit Sgt. Pepper and all that, then they

01:21:46.829 --> 01:21:48.670
started getting... Yeah, there have been eight,

01:21:48.850 --> 01:21:50.729
nine minute songs because they knew they were

01:21:50.729 --> 01:21:52.329
never going to be on a single. So it's like,

01:21:52.409 --> 01:21:55.109
what the hell? They had fun with it after that,

01:21:55.189 --> 01:21:56.710
didn't they? And they were at the point where

01:21:56.710 --> 01:21:58.850
nobody would tell them no. Because they were

01:21:58.850 --> 01:22:01.250
making so much money and so popular. It was like,

01:22:01.369 --> 01:22:03.130
are you going to tell John and Paul and George

01:22:03.130 --> 01:22:06.289
no? I don't think so. Look at Helper Skelter.

01:22:06.689 --> 01:22:10.140
Yeah. Where did that come from? supposedly it

01:22:10.140 --> 01:22:13.340
was a slide in an amusement park oh really called

01:22:13.340 --> 01:22:15.260
the helter skelter you get to the top and you

01:22:15.260 --> 01:22:19.000
down to the bottom again and go back to the it's

01:22:19.000 --> 01:22:25.079
it was a slide okay and uh it was charlie manson

01:22:25.079 --> 01:22:28.020
that lost his mind over that album and obsessed

01:22:28.020 --> 01:22:33.779
over that album for his escapades but it was

01:22:33.779 --> 01:22:40.449
always an amusement park ride I can't think of

01:22:40.449 --> 01:22:44.829
what to say. The music. Yeah. The music was so

01:22:44.829 --> 01:22:46.649
different than anything I ever did. It's like,

01:22:46.670 --> 01:22:48.350
where did that come from? Was that like a dream,

01:22:48.430 --> 01:22:52.590
a nightmare or something? I don't know. I know

01:22:52.590 --> 01:22:55.189
it's kind of raucous on the same level as Revolution

01:22:55.189 --> 01:22:59.970
was raucous and raw and kind of crunchy. I have

01:22:59.970 --> 01:23:02.369
a feeling John Lennon was behind a lot of those

01:23:02.369 --> 01:23:04.069
types of songs. Probably. He was so much turmoil

01:23:04.069 --> 01:23:06.609
on that guy. That was going on in his head. And

01:23:06.609 --> 01:23:08.329
when the Beatles split up and they all started

01:23:08.329 --> 01:23:12.930
doing solo stuff, John was writing the edgy,

01:23:12.930 --> 01:23:19.270
topical stuff. George was writing weepy, sad

01:23:19.270 --> 01:23:22.369
songs about religion. And Paul McCartney was

01:23:22.369 --> 01:23:24.750
writing little pop love songs. that would get

01:23:24.750 --> 01:23:27.789
radio airplay on top 40 stations. That's kind

01:23:27.789 --> 01:23:29.649
of what they disintegrated into. I thought it

01:23:29.649 --> 01:23:32.529
was like John Lennon's solo better than Paul

01:23:32.529 --> 01:23:35.569
McCartney's by far. McCartney had a ton of hits,

01:23:35.609 --> 01:23:37.789
but it's just not my kind of music. I mean, neither

01:23:37.789 --> 01:23:40.529
did Harrison, too. I like George Harrison much

01:23:40.529 --> 01:23:42.390
better, too. And Ringo Starr, I can't really

01:23:42.390 --> 01:23:46.369
say I really followed him. I only remember one

01:23:46.369 --> 01:23:49.489
album he put out called Roto Bravura, I think,

01:23:49.510 --> 01:23:53.170
and he had that song, Photograph. Oh, yeah, yeah,

01:23:53.289 --> 01:23:58.329
yeah. He also had a song called, I think, Summer

01:23:58.329 --> 01:24:00.350
of Seventy, which was when the Beatles broke

01:24:00.350 --> 01:24:03.789
up. And it was kind of a weepy, sad song about

01:24:03.789 --> 01:24:07.250
the end of life as he knew it. Oh, okay. Yeah,

01:24:07.310 --> 01:24:09.989
Reno never did a whole lot solo -wise. Yeah,

01:24:09.989 --> 01:24:14.199
and he's a surviving member. Yeah. And his son

01:24:14.199 --> 01:24:17.020
Zach got fired by the Who twice. Yeah, although

01:24:17.020 --> 01:24:19.680
the Who says he didn't, but he said he did. Man,

01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:24.779
I can listen to the Who still, but when Roger

01:24:24.779 --> 01:24:27.079
Daltrey's voice comes on, I can't listen to him

01:24:27.079 --> 01:24:28.640
because he's such a whiny little bitch. He's

01:24:28.640 --> 01:24:32.060
a whiny bitch, I know. His ego is so fragile

01:24:32.060 --> 01:24:34.560
that he blew it, he made a mistake, and then

01:24:34.560 --> 01:24:38.810
blamed the drummer. And fired him. And then Townsend

01:24:38.810 --> 01:24:40.850
smoothed things over and they rehired him. And

01:24:40.850 --> 01:24:43.310
then Daltrey got all bent because he was going

01:24:43.310 --> 01:24:44.970
to have to admit it and fired the drummer again.

01:24:45.489 --> 01:24:47.810
And now the truth comes out anyway that it was

01:24:47.810 --> 01:24:50.390
always Daltrey. He blew it. He came in wrong

01:24:50.390 --> 01:24:52.510
because he won't practice. He won't rehearse.

01:24:52.989 --> 01:24:55.329
And he just decided, well, I'm not going to take

01:24:55.329 --> 01:24:56.930
the blame. I'm just going to blame this drummer

01:24:56.930 --> 01:24:59.109
because he's not a real member anyway. I saw

01:24:59.109 --> 01:25:01.609
him at Spirit Fest. Remember those? Yeah. A long

01:25:01.609 --> 01:25:04.609
time ago. He had a line. He was horrible. Oh,

01:25:04.609 --> 01:25:08.859
man. Horrible. This is in the 90s. He could barely

01:25:08.859 --> 01:25:11.739
sing. I can't believe he held on this long. I

01:25:11.739 --> 01:25:14.439
know. It's just for the nostalgia part. Yeah,

01:25:14.439 --> 01:25:17.180
that's all it is. Now he looks like a fucking,

01:25:17.300 --> 01:25:21.119
I don't know, a beat -up dentist. Yeah, he really

01:25:21.119 --> 01:25:24.840
does. Who still drives a Jag? Yeah, that, yeah.

01:25:25.960 --> 01:25:29.199
He sits on his balls in that Jag. Yes, he does.

01:25:31.850 --> 01:25:34.489
But to be that big a jerk to the drummer who's

01:25:34.489 --> 01:25:36.689
been in your band for almost 30 years. Yeah,

01:25:36.689 --> 01:25:41.909
it's bullshit. Yeah. He's less than a human being

01:25:41.909 --> 01:25:45.770
as far as personality and empathy and decency

01:25:45.770 --> 01:25:48.810
goes. Well, Roger Daltrey is kind of like where

01:25:48.810 --> 01:25:51.829
I'm at with Vince Neil. Yeah. Back then, it was

01:25:51.829 --> 01:25:54.329
like, but he wasn't a big slob. He might have

01:25:54.329 --> 01:25:57.810
been a drinker, I don't know. But he was so bad

01:25:57.810 --> 01:26:01.539
that it was like, you need to stop. And like

01:26:01.539 --> 01:26:03.199
I said, I don't know how he held on for so long.

01:26:03.220 --> 01:26:05.479
Kind of like Vince Neil, but Vince Neil's everything.

01:26:05.560 --> 01:26:09.000
His appearance, everything. I mean, he's just

01:26:09.000 --> 01:26:12.819
nasty. He can sing, he has a band, he has the

01:26:12.819 --> 01:26:15.479
crowd sing for him constantly, and nobody wants

01:26:15.479 --> 01:26:18.399
to sing it. Yeah. It's like, we paid to hear

01:26:18.399 --> 01:26:21.939
you sing, man. The article I read this morning

01:26:21.939 --> 01:26:24.300
is that Motley Crue is not ruling out possibly

01:26:24.300 --> 01:26:28.220
replacing Vince Neil on future tours and concerts.

01:26:28.800 --> 01:26:31.680
They're kind of done with him, I think. I wish

01:26:31.680 --> 01:26:34.439
they'd get John Carabi, but I don't think that's

01:26:34.439 --> 01:26:36.220
going to happen. No, they'd have to admit that

01:26:36.220 --> 01:26:38.560
it was a mistake at that point. Yeah, who would

01:26:38.560 --> 01:26:42.159
they get? Mark Turain would have been a good

01:26:42.159 --> 01:26:46.100
choice, but he completely changed his look. They

01:26:46.100 --> 01:26:49.680
should get a chick singer. Yes, yes. They should

01:26:49.680 --> 01:26:54.239
get a girl singer. Somebody with a voice like

01:26:54.239 --> 01:26:58.279
Lizzy Hale. Yes. That would save them. That would

01:26:58.279 --> 01:27:00.479
be awesome. Not for me, though. I don't care

01:27:00.479 --> 01:27:04.199
for them anymore. It's not just the bullshit

01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:08.000
music that they're trying to pass off. It's Nicky

01:27:08.000 --> 01:27:13.739
and Tommy being complete idiots. Yeah, I think

01:27:13.739 --> 01:27:16.439
at this point kind of a reboot and rebranding

01:27:16.439 --> 01:27:18.819
or reboot personnel -wise is what it's going

01:27:18.819 --> 01:27:20.899
to take because right now they're just the same

01:27:20.899 --> 01:27:23.159
old Motley Crue trying to pull us into buying

01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.680
their stuff again. Nobody is. Nobody likes them.

01:27:26.520 --> 01:27:30.420
Everybody I know gets disgust when I say they're

01:27:30.420 --> 01:27:33.460
not. And they were so good and so big and they

01:27:33.460 --> 01:27:35.840
just, wow, they just screwed it all up for themselves.

01:27:36.060 --> 01:27:38.420
Spotify took the liberty of playing Too Fast

01:27:38.420 --> 01:27:41.399
for Love, Shout at the Devil, and Theater of

01:27:41.399 --> 01:27:44.520
Pain all in concession. And I was like, man,

01:27:44.560 --> 01:27:47.680
that fucking music was great. Fitzgill's voice,

01:27:47.720 --> 01:27:50.579
that Banshee stuff. Yeah. Heard nothing like

01:27:50.579 --> 01:27:53.930
it. I mean, it was really great stuff. And that

01:27:53.930 --> 01:27:55.810
must have sounded awesome when you're in the

01:27:55.810 --> 01:27:58.229
middle of a big stadium and he's belting that

01:27:58.229 --> 01:28:01.149
stuff out. That sounded awesome, I'm sure. Dude

01:28:01.149 --> 01:28:04.130
looked like a lady. That's what the song was

01:28:04.130 --> 01:28:05.989
written by. But still, they saw him come in and

01:28:05.989 --> 01:28:08.109
they go, and Steven Dollar goes, who's that chicken?

01:28:09.210 --> 01:28:12.289
Settle down there, Steve. In fact, that made

01:28:12.289 --> 01:28:15.649
my list of songs about specific people. Oh, okay.

01:28:16.920 --> 01:28:19.220
All right, well, let's go ahead and go on to

01:28:19.220 --> 01:28:21.199
that then, I guess. Because I'm getting kind

01:28:21.199 --> 01:28:23.159
of hungry, and I really would like to go get

01:28:23.159 --> 01:28:26.260
something to eat. All righty. Songs about actual

01:28:26.260 --> 01:28:30.680
famous people. All right. You Oughta Know by

01:28:30.680 --> 01:28:33.659
Alanis Morissette. Kind of her first big hit.

01:28:33.920 --> 01:28:40.319
Yeah, the hockey player and on Full House. Shit.

01:28:40.819 --> 01:28:42.819
I always know his name. I can't think of it now.

01:28:42.979 --> 01:28:45.279
Well, this one says it's actor Dave Coulier.

01:28:45.819 --> 01:28:47.899
Yeah. Yeah, he was on Full House. So he was probably

01:28:47.899 --> 01:28:49.779
a hockey player. And he was also a hockey player,

01:28:49.939 --> 01:28:56.039
yeah. Paper Doll by John Mayer. While not explicitly

01:28:56.039 --> 01:28:58.600
angry, the song is interpreted as a criticism

01:28:58.600 --> 01:29:01.560
of celebrity culture and the persona Mayer adopted.

01:29:02.060 --> 01:29:04.939
So he's basically talking about himself. Yeah.

01:29:05.399 --> 01:29:07.720
Yeah, and there's a lot of songs about John Mayer,

01:29:07.779 --> 01:29:11.380
too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's on here, too. Oh,

01:29:11.420 --> 01:29:15.569
okay. Okay, Stupid Girl by Garbage. Remember

01:29:15.569 --> 01:29:18.470
that one? Stupid girl. It was writing about Courtney

01:29:18.470 --> 01:29:22.090
Love. Yes. That fits. That definitely fits. And

01:29:22.090 --> 01:29:24.149
everybody thought it was Lump that was written

01:29:24.149 --> 01:29:27.130
about Courtney Love. It was not. Lump was not

01:29:27.130 --> 01:29:28.930
written about her. It was Stupid Girl. Yeah.

01:29:29.550 --> 01:29:32.329
I forgot who sang Lump, but you remember. It

01:29:32.329 --> 01:29:34.069
was called Presidents of the United States of

01:29:34.069 --> 01:29:36.289
America. Yeah. Everybody goes, oh, that's about

01:29:36.289 --> 01:29:37.850
Courtney Love. And they finally came out and

01:29:37.850 --> 01:29:41.989
said, no, it's not. Lump was a fun song. I played

01:29:41.989 --> 01:29:45.039
that when I was in the band Weatherhead. We played

01:29:45.039 --> 01:29:47.899
that. Nobody really knew who it was, but they

01:29:47.899 --> 01:29:50.000
all danced anyway because it was fun. That's

01:29:50.000 --> 01:29:53.180
cooler than hell. Yeah. All right. Professional

01:29:53.180 --> 01:29:56.319
Widow by Tori Amos. The song is interpreted as

01:29:56.319 --> 01:29:58.600
a critique of the music industry and those who

01:29:58.600 --> 01:30:03.640
exploit others. And, oh, she had an album written

01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:06.220
about her, too. Is that on there? I don't know.

01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:09.899
Let me see. Let's see. Oh, Sleeps with Angels

01:30:09.899 --> 01:30:13.239
by Neil Young is about Kurt Cobain after his

01:30:13.239 --> 01:30:16.319
death. Really? Yep. It's noted for its somber

01:30:16.319 --> 01:30:18.300
and reflective tone about the singer's struggles.

01:30:19.760 --> 01:30:21.840
Didn't know that. I'm going to have to re -listen

01:30:21.840 --> 01:30:26.119
to that. Man on the Moon by R .E .M. Yeah, Andy

01:30:26.119 --> 01:30:32.380
Kaufman? Yeah, it was about Andy Kaufman. Let's

01:30:32.380 --> 01:30:36.010
see. All the Young Dudes by Bob the Hoople. Courtney

01:30:36.010 --> 01:30:38.369
Love and all that stuff. Oh, All the Young Dudes

01:30:38.369 --> 01:30:42.130
by Mott the Hoople. Yeah, okay. This song includes

01:30:42.130 --> 01:30:45.109
references to other famous artists like David

01:30:45.109 --> 01:30:48.829
Bowie and the Rolling Stones and explores themes

01:30:48.829 --> 01:30:52.390
of fame and disillusionment. Here's the part

01:30:52.390 --> 01:30:55.069
they forgot to mention. It was written by David

01:30:55.069 --> 01:30:57.510
Bowie. Yeah, that's right. And given to Mott

01:30:57.510 --> 01:31:00.670
the Hoople to record. So David Bowie wrote it

01:31:00.670 --> 01:31:03.149
about himself and Mick Jagger. And Mick Jagger.

01:31:03.170 --> 01:31:06.390
Yeah, whom he has been long rumored to have had

01:31:06.390 --> 01:31:10.149
an affair with. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The video

01:31:10.149 --> 01:31:12.789
kind of. Yeah, the dancing in the streets or

01:31:12.789 --> 01:31:17.210
whatever it is. But, yeah, Bowie's wife, Imani,

01:31:17.470 --> 01:31:21.210
said that she walked in once and found the two

01:31:21.210 --> 01:31:23.210
of them in bed naked after they'd already had

01:31:23.210 --> 01:31:27.750
sex. She's like, okay, whatever. Oh, we had a

01:31:27.750 --> 01:31:32.189
little incident there. If you heard us kind of

01:31:32.189 --> 01:31:34.289
clipping, we had a guy come by and throw bug

01:31:34.289 --> 01:31:37.109
repellent on us, and he said that podcasts are

01:31:37.109 --> 01:31:41.149
of the devil. Yes. And I said, which devil? And

01:31:41.149 --> 01:31:44.609
he was confused. Yes. I told him there was 12

01:31:44.609 --> 01:31:46.869
devils, and he ran off. And aren't there like

01:31:46.869 --> 01:31:52.310
nine planes of hell? Yes. 666 levels of the abyss?

01:31:52.409 --> 01:31:55.149
Yes. Yes. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff.

01:31:55.329 --> 01:31:59.550
Yeah. Okay. You've got to do your research, folks.

01:31:59.750 --> 01:32:04.810
Do your research. Okay, here's the next one.

01:32:04.850 --> 01:32:07.109
In an interview with Seventeen Magazine, Courtney

01:32:07.109 --> 01:32:09.810
Love reportedly said, Being famous is just like

01:32:09.810 --> 01:32:11.789
being in high school, but I'm not interested

01:32:11.789 --> 01:32:13.890
in being the cheerleader. I'm not interested

01:32:13.890 --> 01:32:17.310
in being Gwen Stefani. She's the cheerleader,

01:32:17.369 --> 01:32:21.250
and I'm out in the smoker shed. Gwen Stefani

01:32:21.250 --> 01:32:23.770
said that's what inspired her to write Hollaback

01:32:23.770 --> 01:32:29.869
Girl. I remember a little bit. Yes. Yep. That's

01:32:29.869 --> 01:32:32.909
a great example. And she said, Stefani said,

01:32:33.050 --> 01:32:35.170
you know, somebody one time called me a cheerleader

01:32:35.170 --> 01:32:37.590
negatively, and I've never been a cheerleader.

01:32:37.710 --> 01:32:39.989
So I was like, okay, fuck you. You want me to

01:32:39.989 --> 01:32:42.289
cheerleader? Well, hell, then I'll be one, and

01:32:42.289 --> 01:32:45.939
I'll rule the world. You just watch me. And she

01:32:45.939 --> 01:32:49.100
became enormous, and Courtney Love is a footnote.

01:32:49.319 --> 01:32:53.779
Yeah. Courtney Love was a lead job that destroyed

01:32:53.779 --> 01:32:56.819
a guy so bad he ended up killing himself. She

01:32:56.819 --> 01:33:00.600
had one or two songs that I liked, and I liked

01:33:00.600 --> 01:33:04.319
her in the performance about Larry Flint. Yes.

01:33:04.399 --> 01:33:06.840
I forget what that was called. She played Athena,

01:33:07.100 --> 01:33:11.800
his wife? Yeah. Yeah. The People vs. Larry Flynn.

01:33:12.199 --> 01:33:15.340
Woody Harrelson was Larry Flynn. When I go back

01:33:15.340 --> 01:33:17.619
to this, you know why she was so great at that

01:33:17.619 --> 01:33:20.039
role? She was playing herself. Well, that's true.

01:33:20.220 --> 01:33:23.159
Well, she was also decent in the movie Man in

01:33:23.159 --> 01:33:26.460
the Moon about Andy Kaufman. Actually, I've got

01:33:26.460 --> 01:33:28.800
to be fair. She actually was a pretty good actress.

01:33:29.859 --> 01:33:32.939
Celebrity skin. That was a decent album. That

01:33:32.939 --> 01:33:38.100
was a decent album. Make Me Over. I think that's

01:33:38.100 --> 01:33:40.939
the single. Make Me Over is a great song. I like

01:33:40.939 --> 01:33:48.579
Doll Parts. It's pretty raw. And what's the one?

01:33:48.680 --> 01:33:52.539
Violence. violets and violets where it says go

01:33:52.539 --> 01:33:54.979
go on take everything take everything yeah yeah

01:33:54.979 --> 01:33:57.819
yeah well i forget the name of that one those

01:33:57.819 --> 01:34:01.539
are the songs i like yeah um celebrity skin the

01:34:01.539 --> 01:34:04.420
the lyrics on it are so good though yeah beautiful

01:34:04.420 --> 01:34:07.659
garbage a piece of trash yeah you know don't

01:34:07.659 --> 01:34:12.319
you feel so used up and the video has like these

01:34:12.319 --> 01:34:14.460
glamorous women like hanging from the ceiling

01:34:14.460 --> 01:34:17.760
just they're like fucking like meat yeah like

01:34:17.760 --> 01:34:20.659
meat She really got the point across. Definitely.

01:34:22.380 --> 01:34:24.739
Let's see. As you said, Aerosmith's Dude Looks

01:34:24.739 --> 01:34:26.880
Like a Lady had a very specific origin story.

01:34:27.100 --> 01:34:30.439
In an interview with Song Facts, co -writer Desmond

01:34:30.439 --> 01:34:32.520
Child said that the lead singer, Steven Tyler,

01:34:32.619 --> 01:34:34.880
showed him a song he was working on called Cruisin'

01:34:34.899 --> 01:34:37.680
for the Ladies. Desmond Child! And Child thought

01:34:37.680 --> 01:34:39.520
it was a little boring, it was a boring title,

01:34:39.560 --> 01:34:41.239
and he wasn't into it. And then Steven volunteered

01:34:41.239 --> 01:34:43.319
sheepishly that he said when he first wrote the

01:34:43.319 --> 01:34:45.399
melody, he was singing, Dude Looks Like a Lady.

01:34:45.720 --> 01:34:47.920
He got the idea because they'd gone to a bar

01:34:47.920 --> 01:34:50.239
and seen a girl at the end of the bar with ginormous

01:34:50.239 --> 01:34:52.380
blonde rock hair, and when she turned around,

01:34:52.500 --> 01:34:56.380
it turned out to be Vince Neil. And so they started

01:34:56.380 --> 01:34:58.520
making fun of him, saying, That dude looks like

01:34:58.520 --> 01:35:00.779
a lady. I remember when we had beautiful hair,

01:35:00.859 --> 01:35:03.359
me and Davey and everybody. I used to have long,

01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:06.060
beautiful hair. And guys would, they... You'd

01:35:06.060 --> 01:35:08.579
see them eyeing you? Yep. Maybe you'd turn around

01:35:08.579 --> 01:35:13.739
and... Their eyes would start smoking. Well,

01:35:13.939 --> 01:35:17.180
to my benefit, I never had much of an ass. So,

01:35:17.260 --> 01:35:19.539
you know, if they'd see the hair, they'd look

01:35:19.539 --> 01:35:21.140
down at the ass, and, oh, that's got to be a

01:35:21.140 --> 01:35:23.920
dude. Oh, you know what? I never did, yeah. I

01:35:23.920 --> 01:35:26.359
don't know. I'd have to ask. I don't know who

01:35:26.359 --> 01:35:30.659
to ask. Yeah. Hey, how's my ass today? It's there.

01:35:31.239 --> 01:35:34.930
Okay, good enough for me. All right. Nirvana's

01:35:34.930 --> 01:35:37.670
Heart -Shaped Box has some pretty strange lyrics,

01:35:37.729 --> 01:35:40.029
even by Kurt Cobain standards, with lines like,

01:35:40.170 --> 01:35:44.229
Meat -eating orchids forgive no one just yet.

01:35:44.350 --> 01:35:46.909
Cut myself on angel's hair and baby's breath.

01:35:47.229 --> 01:35:49.729
Yeah. Yeah, and wish I could eat your cancer

01:35:49.729 --> 01:35:52.069
when you turn black. Yes. That kind of stuff.

01:35:52.170 --> 01:35:56.369
I think it's about being a boarder. Well, in

01:35:56.369 --> 01:35:59.010
2012, Lana Del Rey performed a cover of the song

01:35:59.010 --> 01:36:01.210
in concert, which prompted Courtney Love to want

01:36:01.210 --> 01:36:03.789
to explain to Del Rey the song's true meaning.

01:36:04.529 --> 01:36:07.350
On Twitter, Love posted, you do know the song

01:36:07.350 --> 01:36:10.430
is about my vagina, right? So next time when

01:36:10.430 --> 01:36:12.289
you sing it, think about my vagina, will you?

01:36:14.170 --> 01:36:17.409
That was the heart -shaped box. Courtney Love's

01:36:17.409 --> 01:36:20.989
vagina. Okay. That's the meat -eating orchid.

01:36:21.189 --> 01:36:25.380
Okay. Okay, someone... put it with in utero,

01:36:25.380 --> 01:36:29.279
and thought it was about abortion. Yeah. Okay.

01:36:29.420 --> 01:36:31.739
All right, that makes more sense. Yeah. All right.

01:36:32.619 --> 01:36:37.239
Broken hymen of your kindness. Yeah, yeah. I'm

01:36:37.239 --> 01:36:39.159
telling you, the lyrics. Throw down your umbilical

01:36:39.159 --> 01:36:42.479
noose. So I can climb right back. Yeah. And people

01:36:42.479 --> 01:36:48.140
are going, he killed himself? That was his lyrics.

01:36:48.760 --> 01:36:52.279
Yeah. All right. Here's another one. Giving the

01:36:52.279 --> 01:36:54.859
scathing lyrics of this song, decrying that the

01:36:54.859 --> 01:36:58.220
song's mysterious subject is so vain. There's

01:36:58.220 --> 01:37:00.420
the hint. They'll think this song is about you.

01:37:01.020 --> 01:37:03.659
Rumors have long swirled as the egotistical target

01:37:03.659 --> 01:37:06.340
of Carly Simon's clever scorn, You're So Vain.

01:37:07.180 --> 01:37:10.560
During the 44 years, Simon declined to say one

01:37:10.560 --> 01:37:13.739
word or the other, but many have speculated the

01:37:13.739 --> 01:37:16.880
song focused on Kris Kristofferson. which she

01:37:16.880 --> 01:37:20.399
said, yeah, that's part of it. David Bowie, which

01:37:20.399 --> 01:37:24.260
she says, huh? And Warren Beatty, which she says,

01:37:24.279 --> 01:37:27.600
yeah, that's part of it too. Also David Geffen.

01:37:28.460 --> 01:37:31.659
And Mick Jagger, who sings backup on the song.

01:37:31.800 --> 01:37:34.819
That's Mick Jagger singing backup, so it's about

01:37:34.819 --> 01:37:40.920
him too. Warren Beatty, certainly the song was

01:37:40.920 --> 01:37:43.859
about him declaring in 1999, let's be honest,

01:37:43.899 --> 01:37:46.779
that song is all about me. So I guess he is that

01:37:46.779 --> 01:37:52.100
vain. He is that vain. The actor was only partially

01:37:52.100 --> 01:37:54.300
right, however, as Carly Simon herself revealed

01:37:54.300 --> 01:37:57.199
16 years after Beatty's declaration, I have confirmed

01:37:57.199 --> 01:38:00.899
that the second verse is about Warren. But Warren

01:38:00.899 --> 01:38:02.520
thinks the whole song is about him. It's not.

01:38:04.000 --> 01:38:07.000
So Warren Beatty got the second verse, but the

01:38:07.000 --> 01:38:09.420
rest of the song ain't his. And another interesting

01:38:09.420 --> 01:38:12.079
footnote is David Geffen was straight at that

01:38:12.079 --> 01:38:16.470
point. Isn't that weird? Yeah. He isn't anymore,

01:38:16.670 --> 01:38:24.050
but he was straight then. Let's see. All right.

01:38:24.369 --> 01:38:27.689
A recent study has shown that musicians' brains

01:38:27.689 --> 01:38:31.109
tend to stay sharp and focused all of their life.

01:38:31.289 --> 01:38:34.529
I think that makes sense. And they say mostly

01:38:34.529 --> 01:38:37.149
the reason is because musicians are constantly

01:38:37.149 --> 01:38:41.119
learning and training instead of coasting. Most

01:38:41.119 --> 01:38:42.819
people, they retire and it's like, yeah, I don't

01:38:42.819 --> 01:38:44.640
want to learn anything. I don't want to do anything

01:38:44.640 --> 01:38:47.420
new. They just want to sit in bed. They settle

01:38:47.420 --> 01:38:49.859
in their job and they don't need to have any

01:38:49.859 --> 01:38:52.720
skills except for their job. Your brain just

01:38:52.720 --> 01:38:55.439
kind of deteriorates. It makes sense. Your brain's

01:38:55.439 --> 01:38:57.140
not going to put any more effort into it than

01:38:57.140 --> 01:38:59.840
it has to. It's wasteful. I've got a great example

01:38:59.840 --> 01:39:02.319
right here. Yeah? You know, I constantly write

01:39:02.319 --> 01:39:04.659
and record for the podcast. Yeah. Constantly.

01:39:05.159 --> 01:39:07.840
I've got probably over a thousand bits now, little

01:39:07.840 --> 01:39:10.739
skits and stuff that I do. I love it. It's what

01:39:10.739 --> 01:39:12.920
I wanted to do for a long time, and thanks to

01:39:12.920 --> 01:39:16.079
you, you helped me get this whole thing underway

01:39:16.079 --> 01:39:18.180
and all that, and I'm glad you're still a part

01:39:18.180 --> 01:39:21.779
of it. I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. But

01:39:21.779 --> 01:39:25.039
my mind is much sharper, and I remember stuff

01:39:25.039 --> 01:39:28.359
more clearly and better because I'm constantly

01:39:28.359 --> 01:39:30.779
writing and reading and learning and doing new

01:39:30.779 --> 01:39:33.399
things. Yeah, I find myself listening and analyzing

01:39:33.399 --> 01:39:36.960
better. Because it's like, oh, that's interesting.

01:39:37.140 --> 01:39:38.939
That's cool. I'm going to write that down. It's

01:39:38.939 --> 01:39:41.359
a great brain exercise. It is. It really is.

01:39:42.039 --> 01:39:43.739
That's part of the reason I really like going

01:39:43.739 --> 01:39:46.460
to the open jams is because it's a challenge

01:39:46.460 --> 01:39:49.880
to basically, it's like improv. You don't know

01:39:49.880 --> 01:39:50.979
what's going to happen, what you're going to

01:39:50.979 --> 01:39:52.300
say, what you're going to do. It's like you get

01:39:52.300 --> 01:39:54.369
up there and just go with the flow. Like that

01:39:54.369 --> 01:39:58.029
one at R .C.'s when it was open. Yeah. That one

01:39:58.029 --> 01:39:59.930
guy come up, and he's playing like Johnny B.

01:39:59.989 --> 01:40:01.750
Goode, and the next guy comes up, and he's playing

01:40:01.750 --> 01:40:05.550
like Molly Hatchett. Meanwhile, you're over there.

01:40:07.010 --> 01:40:11.989
Oh, okay. We're doing this now. All right. Too

01:40:11.989 --> 01:40:14.050
bad they don't do them anymore. I enjoyed those

01:40:14.050 --> 01:40:16.770
so much. Yeah, there's one in Lee's Summit that's

01:40:16.770 --> 01:40:18.149
kind of like that on Thursday nights. I wouldn't

01:40:18.149 --> 01:40:19.729
mind seeing that one. I'm going to check that

01:40:19.729 --> 01:40:21.810
out one of these days. Yeah, that guy, he's the

01:40:21.810 --> 01:40:24.210
one that sounded like Molly Hatchett. Yeah. Yeah.

01:40:24.810 --> 01:40:26.750
Yeah, as soon as I said that to him in the bathroom,

01:40:26.829 --> 01:40:29.130
his eyes lit up. He goes, yeah. He goes, man,

01:40:29.170 --> 01:40:35.210
I'm crazy about it. Yeah. Oh, we can talk about

01:40:35.210 --> 01:40:37.350
the new catchphrase. It's starting to fade already.

01:40:37.850 --> 01:40:41.489
Getting cold played. Yes. It's worth mentioning

01:40:41.489 --> 01:40:45.689
that that CEO that got exposed, he's now suing

01:40:45.689 --> 01:40:49.529
the band. And his claim is, well, their song

01:40:49.529 --> 01:40:51.670
shouldn't cost me my whole life and everything

01:40:51.670 --> 01:40:54.789
I worked so hard for. Okay, it wasn't their song.

01:40:54.850 --> 01:40:57.529
It was you cheating. That's what cost you. And

01:40:57.529 --> 01:40:59.470
you're stupid enough to do it in public where

01:40:59.470 --> 01:41:01.770
you knew thousands of people had camera phones.

01:41:02.439 --> 01:41:05.260
Coldplay had a party after that. Coldplay had

01:41:05.260 --> 01:41:07.659
a party because they have one straight male listener

01:41:07.659 --> 01:41:13.539
there. That's the guy. Right there. That's the

01:41:13.539 --> 01:41:16.159
one straight guy. He's going to autograph their

01:41:16.159 --> 01:41:21.479
divorce papers. Allegedly, Elvis. I think that's

01:41:21.479 --> 01:41:23.619
a true miracle there. No kidding. Like there's

01:41:23.619 --> 01:41:27.109
a straight male there. Hang on. Stop. Who wasn't

01:41:27.109 --> 01:41:29.350
dragged there against his will? Yeah, he met

01:41:29.350 --> 01:41:32.270
her there. I'm only here because my daughter

01:41:32.270 --> 01:41:36.350
wants to be here. By the way, she's not my daughter.

01:41:38.289 --> 01:41:43.229
All right, Epstein. In a recent concert, Paul

01:41:43.229 --> 01:41:47.750
Simon took a $20 bribe from an audience member

01:41:47.750 --> 01:41:50.729
to play the song Kodachrome, which he hadn't

01:41:50.729 --> 01:41:54.359
played in decades. Apparently this fan had been

01:41:54.359 --> 01:41:57.500
yelling for him to play Kodachrome. It's a fun

01:41:57.500 --> 01:42:03.039
song. It's a great song. And finally, this guy

01:42:03.039 --> 01:42:05.760
held up a 20 and said, Will you play Kodachrome

01:42:05.760 --> 01:42:09.220
for 20 bucks? Paul was just like, Okay, I will.

01:42:09.420 --> 01:42:11.819
He's just laughing his ass off. He took the 20

01:42:11.819 --> 01:42:16.920
and he played Kodachrome. I wonder if later on

01:42:16.920 --> 01:42:18.779
if he signed it and gave it back to him. I hope

01:42:18.779 --> 01:42:22.189
he did. I bet you he did. I just thought that

01:42:22.189 --> 01:42:24.069
was awesome. Paul Simon's a lot more fun than

01:42:24.069 --> 01:42:25.930
I thought he was. Yeah, no, I know. He's kind

01:42:25.930 --> 01:42:28.729
of known as like a stick in the mud. Yeah. That's

01:42:28.729 --> 01:42:34.250
pretty cool. Well, in honor of our favorite institution,

01:42:34.529 --> 01:42:41.489
NPR, being on the skids from the defunding, before

01:42:41.489 --> 01:42:46.909
the defunding happened, the accusation was, here's

01:42:46.909 --> 01:42:50.899
National Public Radio. They take $500 million

01:42:50.899 --> 01:42:55.720
a year of taxpayer money to run their radio station,

01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:58.020
and they consider themselves completely fair,

01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:02.539
unbiased, and unslanted. And in fact, the CEO,

01:43:02.880 --> 01:43:06.859
I forget what her name is, she says quit. She

01:43:06.859 --> 01:43:10.239
said, well, I would really like to know. Just

01:43:10.239 --> 01:43:12.460
give me some examples of these stories that are

01:43:12.460 --> 01:43:17.260
so -called biased and slanted and not fair. So...

01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:21.279
A member of Congress took her up on it. Yes.

01:43:21.359 --> 01:43:24.739
He said, here you go. Here are some of the stories,

01:43:24.859 --> 01:43:26.520
some of the headlines of stories they actually

01:43:26.520 --> 01:43:31.899
produced and aired. How racism became a marketing

01:43:31.899 --> 01:43:38.539
tool for country music. Not, has it become, or

01:43:38.539 --> 01:43:41.340
do you think it has? No, it has, and here's how

01:43:41.340 --> 01:43:45.319
it happened. That's supposed to be fair and unbiased

01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:50.119
and impartial? No. Monuments and teams have changed

01:43:50.119 --> 01:43:54.100
names as America reckons with racism. Birds are

01:43:54.100 --> 01:43:58.239
next. It's like, I don't know any racist birds,

01:43:58.420 --> 01:44:02.659
do you? No. You know, I tried asking their opinions,

01:44:02.760 --> 01:44:04.819
but they were scurrying. They were like, why

01:44:04.819 --> 01:44:08.060
not? Here's another headline of another story

01:44:08.060 --> 01:44:12.100
NPR produced. Eating less beef is a climate change

01:44:12.100 --> 01:44:17.119
solution. Okay. They just decided that all on

01:44:17.119 --> 01:44:20.520
their own. Okay. Now, the truth is, carbon gets

01:44:20.520 --> 01:44:24.100
bound up in the grass. The cows eat it. It's

01:44:24.100 --> 01:44:27.479
still fixed as carbon. They fart out some methane,

01:44:27.659 --> 01:44:31.479
sure, but not as much pollution as a lot of other

01:44:31.479 --> 01:44:33.819
things make. It's a lot more than they pretend

01:44:33.819 --> 01:44:36.359
are. Someone took the facts on that and distorted

01:44:36.359 --> 01:44:38.640
them is what happened, but go ahead. And then

01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:40.520
you slaughter the cow and eat it. The carbon

01:44:40.520 --> 01:44:43.460
is still fixed in us, and it remains fixed, fixed,

01:44:43.520 --> 01:44:46.140
fixed, fixed. If you grow the grass and let it

01:44:46.140 --> 01:44:48.340
rot... All that carbon gets back in the air.

01:44:49.600 --> 01:44:54.119
Cows are helping. And when the cows crap on the

01:44:54.119 --> 01:44:58.539
ground, that helps fix carbon deep into the soil

01:44:58.539 --> 01:45:00.279
where it's not going to get thrown back into

01:45:00.279 --> 01:45:03.800
the atmosphere. Cows are reducing the carbon

01:45:03.800 --> 01:45:06.039
footprint, but they've been shown to be the enemy

01:45:06.039 --> 01:45:11.039
because the vegan people hate it to be so. Oh,

01:45:11.039 --> 01:45:16.439
yeah. Cows need carbon credits. Absolutely. I'm

01:45:16.439 --> 01:45:18.920
going to go on a big tinge about that. Here's

01:45:18.920 --> 01:45:22.720
the next one. How the Taliban adds to Afghanistan

01:45:22.720 --> 01:45:25.920
woes when it comes to climate change disaster.

01:45:27.359 --> 01:45:29.600
Now, how many Afghanis do you think are waking

01:45:29.600 --> 01:45:31.840
up going, you know, that Taliban really worries

01:45:31.840 --> 01:45:33.779
me when it comes to climate change disaster.

01:45:34.760 --> 01:45:37.479
I've got to have a talk with them. They spent

01:45:37.479 --> 01:45:41.039
half a billion dollars producing shows like this.

01:45:42.140 --> 01:45:46.020
Well, the thing is, they get an inordinate amount

01:45:46.020 --> 01:45:49.159
of money by far for no ratings. I mean, they

01:45:49.159 --> 01:45:51.779
get $10 million contracts with a one share at

01:45:51.779 --> 01:45:56.319
that in most cases. It's ridiculous. Okay, and

01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:59.920
then two days before Joe Biden dropped out of

01:45:59.920 --> 01:46:03.300
the race due to fears about his mental status,

01:46:03.640 --> 01:46:07.960
NPR put out a big story claiming President Biden's

01:46:07.960 --> 01:46:11.100
presidential debate performance. didn't do anything

01:46:11.100 --> 01:46:13.840
to change the election it had no it made no difference

01:46:13.840 --> 01:46:16.979
whatsoever two days later the dude drops out

01:46:16.979 --> 01:46:21.699
of the race okay i mean the telling sign was

01:46:21.699 --> 01:46:25.140
him having they had to turn him around basically

01:46:25.140 --> 01:46:28.779
yeah he got so confused he started walking kind

01:46:28.779 --> 01:46:31.460
of doing a circle like people with alzheimer's

01:46:31.460 --> 01:46:35.020
do and they were backstage going joe joe and

01:46:35.020 --> 01:46:37.220
you could see him going no no turn face them

01:46:37.789 --> 01:46:41.010
And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. No, that guy

01:46:41.010 --> 01:46:45.149
is not cognizant. I'll go ahead. Let's see. NPR

01:46:45.149 --> 01:46:48.670
also reported there was no evidence that biological

01:46:48.670 --> 01:46:51.289
men have an unfair advantage over biological

01:46:51.289 --> 01:46:55.930
women in sports. So apparently your average woman

01:46:55.930 --> 01:46:59.250
could at least equal the performance of your

01:46:59.250 --> 01:47:03.729
average man as, say, an inside linebacker. Yeah,

01:47:03.750 --> 01:47:07.710
okay. Now, you're talking about tennis? They're

01:47:07.710 --> 01:47:12.109
just saying in sports, in general. Then why do

01:47:12.109 --> 01:47:15.109
women have separate leagues? If we're exactly

01:47:15.109 --> 01:47:17.270
equally as capable, why do they have separate

01:47:17.270 --> 01:47:22.909
leagues? Then he said he concluded NPR referred

01:47:22.909 --> 01:47:26.270
to rural Americans as Christian nationalists,

01:47:26.310 --> 01:47:30.670
basically painting them as Nazis, and heaped

01:47:30.670 --> 01:47:33.229
praise on the Biden administration official Rachel

01:47:33.229 --> 01:47:38.760
Levine. Newsbusters managing editor Curtis Howe

01:47:38.760 --> 01:47:45.060
told Fox Digital her comments of the CEO of NPR

01:47:45.060 --> 01:47:48.880
are despicable and rancorous and rise to the

01:47:48.880 --> 01:47:55.680
level of a pants -on -fire lie. NPR failed to

01:47:55.680 --> 01:47:58.779
cover the Hunter Biden laptop scam. Oh, yeah.

01:47:58.899 --> 01:48:02.520
They wouldn't touch it. No, I got it. And remember...

01:48:02.859 --> 01:48:05.579
When Biden's presidency started, he said Hunter

01:48:05.579 --> 01:48:07.920
Biden's laptop is just a figment of Russian propaganda.

01:48:08.560 --> 01:48:13.140
Then when Biden's term in office ended, he was

01:48:13.140 --> 01:48:15.340
pardoning Hunter for what was on the laptop.

01:48:15.659 --> 01:48:18.039
Yeah, but it was for anything that could come

01:48:18.039 --> 01:48:21.220
up ever. Yeah. But it was AutoPen, so we'll see

01:48:21.220 --> 01:48:22.899
what happens. Yeah, that's true. AutoPen's not

01:48:22.899 --> 01:48:26.439
really legal. It doesn't count. It doesn't count.

01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:27.920
There are going to be some people, like, really

01:48:27.920 --> 01:48:30.479
sweating now. If AutoPen counts, then I can make

01:48:30.479 --> 01:48:33.529
a rubber stamp and that counts, too. Yes. I mean,

01:48:33.569 --> 01:48:36.409
how about Fauci for the gain of function? How

01:48:36.409 --> 01:48:40.770
about he go to prison? Yeah. And all the people

01:48:40.770 --> 01:48:44.210
who sit on the cover. Anyhow, go ahead. Let's

01:48:44.210 --> 01:48:48.829
see. Now, since then, the defunding has taken

01:48:48.829 --> 01:48:52.789
place. And as soon as it was announced, the CEO

01:48:52.789 --> 01:48:55.090
resigned immediately. I know. Because she knows

01:48:55.090 --> 01:48:57.310
the gravy train is over and she can no longer

01:48:57.310 --> 01:49:05.060
steal. Yeah. And within a few days, the Corporation

01:49:05.060 --> 01:49:08.020
for Public Broadcasting, which oversees the radio

01:49:08.020 --> 01:49:11.960
and the TV, they're dismantling it. Why? Because

01:49:11.960 --> 01:49:14.239
there's a lot of incriminating evidence there

01:49:14.239 --> 01:49:17.020
and they're wiping it all clean. There was so

01:49:17.020 --> 01:49:19.420
many kickbacks, bribes and all that allegedly.

01:49:19.920 --> 01:49:23.460
It was the liberals stealing. half a billion

01:49:23.460 --> 01:49:26.060
dollars from us every year to use on liberal

01:49:26.060 --> 01:49:29.300
propaganda. I am so glad it's gone. I am too.

01:49:29.359 --> 01:49:32.000
I am so thankful. I am too. And if you think

01:49:32.000 --> 01:49:34.279
we're taking one side, we've got a lot of stuff

01:49:34.279 --> 01:49:36.340
we can say about the other side too. I mean,

01:49:36.359 --> 01:49:40.220
I've been listening to NPR basically since the

01:49:40.220 --> 01:49:43.760
early 80s because it was always on at work. And

01:49:43.760 --> 01:49:46.560
they are vastly, vastly different today than

01:49:46.560 --> 01:49:48.500
they used to be. No, I know. Back then they were

01:49:48.500 --> 01:49:51.840
pretty fair and pretty honest. And they had some

01:49:51.840 --> 01:49:56.000
bias. They would have their liberal guy, Daniel

01:49:56.000 --> 01:49:59.000
Shore, do his daily or weekly spiel and they'd

01:49:59.000 --> 01:50:02.260
have no rebuttal from the other side. But how

01:50:02.260 --> 01:50:05.899
they are now is just pathetic. Oh, it's not real

01:50:05.899 --> 01:50:09.420
news reporting. Which always pissed me off. Well,

01:50:09.460 --> 01:50:11.560
here's two things that I heard about two years

01:50:11.560 --> 01:50:14.939
ago on NPR. It was a woman interviewer and a

01:50:14.939 --> 01:50:19.279
woman guest. And the guest had just finished

01:50:19.279 --> 01:50:24.680
college. And the interviewer was asking about

01:50:24.680 --> 01:50:28.260
things in college. And the college graduate was

01:50:28.260 --> 01:50:31.699
saying one of the things on the exit interview

01:50:31.699 --> 01:50:35.470
was... who is the person who has had the most

01:50:35.470 --> 01:50:37.750
profound effect on your life while you've been

01:50:37.750 --> 01:50:41.850
in college? And her response was, I was insulted

01:50:41.850 --> 01:50:44.069
by that because that's a question for white people,

01:50:44.189 --> 01:50:48.050
not people of color. We are the people who influence

01:50:48.050 --> 01:50:51.109
their real life in a profound way. We don't get

01:50:51.109 --> 01:50:53.329
influenced. We are the influence, and it's white

01:50:53.329 --> 01:50:55.489
people who need to be answering this question.

01:50:56.270 --> 01:51:01.470
And then the host was like, yeah, I know. Just

01:51:01.470 --> 01:51:03.789
agreeing with everything. And then she also brought

01:51:03.789 --> 01:51:08.430
up that all of the diversity programs in college

01:51:08.430 --> 01:51:11.449
were there to educate the racist white people

01:51:11.449 --> 01:51:15.310
only. Yeah. And nobody else needed diversity

01:51:15.310 --> 01:51:18.189
except all these poor racist white people. And

01:51:18.189 --> 01:51:22.710
no white person can be racist. Yeah. And again,

01:51:22.930 --> 01:51:25.449
the host was like, oh, yes, yes, I know. And

01:51:25.449 --> 01:51:27.850
I thought, well, what about all the brown -on

01:51:27.850 --> 01:51:29.970
-black crime that's such a problem? What about

01:51:29.970 --> 01:51:33.489
all the brown -on -black riots in prison? Yeah.

01:51:33.729 --> 01:51:35.470
You're telling me those aren't race -related

01:51:35.470 --> 01:51:38.449
and that people of color can't be racist? What

01:51:38.449 --> 01:51:42.510
bullshit is this? Yeah. Examples like that, I'm

01:51:42.510 --> 01:51:46.130
so glad that they are getting what they deserve.

01:51:46.170 --> 01:51:48.229
Well, like I've always said, I try to illustrate

01:51:48.229 --> 01:51:51.750
this point. The reason I call myself seasonal

01:51:51.750 --> 01:51:56.029
other is because during the summer, I look like

01:51:56.029 --> 01:51:58.850
other if I got a good tan. Yeah. During the winter,

01:51:58.970 --> 01:52:01.489
I look like Joe White guy down the road. Yeah.

01:52:01.590 --> 01:52:06.050
So what am I? Who cares? Why classify? That's

01:52:06.050 --> 01:52:08.710
what I'm saying. Yeah. That classification is

01:52:08.710 --> 01:52:11.109
stupid. It's like when I married Cindy, I got

01:52:11.109 --> 01:52:13.829
three bonus sons. You know, her three from her

01:52:13.829 --> 01:52:16.810
first marriage. And her ex -husband is Lebanese.

01:52:17.109 --> 01:52:20.739
So her kids look... Half Lebanese, because they

01:52:20.739 --> 01:52:23.859
are. Yeah, you can kind of tell. I was looking

01:52:23.859 --> 01:52:26.439
at Jesse, and then I remembered Val said, I never

01:52:26.439 --> 01:52:28.680
met the guy, that he's Lebanese. I'm like, I

01:52:28.680 --> 01:52:32.500
see it now. And now when they're clean -shaven,

01:52:32.659 --> 01:52:35.739
you kind of don't think about it. They could

01:52:35.739 --> 01:52:37.680
definitely pass as white, if you were thinking

01:52:37.680 --> 01:52:40.020
that way. But when they grow their beards out,

01:52:40.199 --> 01:52:42.539
they will get stopped and frisked at the airport,

01:52:42.739 --> 01:52:47.220
because they look like Middle Eastern. So they

01:52:47.220 --> 01:52:49.680
keep their beards shaved off. So they don't get

01:52:49.680 --> 01:52:52.600
hassled. I don't blame them. Yeah, so there they

01:52:52.600 --> 01:52:56.020
are living in both worlds. Oh, I've got an airport

01:52:56.020 --> 01:52:58.220
story for you. When we went on our cruise a couple

01:52:58.220 --> 01:53:01.220
months ago, I was like, all right, I'm getting

01:53:01.220 --> 01:53:03.659
tired of taking off my fucking belt. I had this

01:53:03.659 --> 01:53:08.340
plastic belt. I'm like, yeah, there we go. That'll

01:53:08.340 --> 01:53:11.539
work. I went through security, and the guy goes,

01:53:11.600 --> 01:53:15.119
stop. And I go, man, I even wore a plastic belt.

01:53:15.180 --> 01:53:17.380
He goes, we don't care if it's metal. It's an

01:53:17.380 --> 01:53:20.960
item that shouldn't be there. I got frisked.

01:53:21.140 --> 01:53:25.159
Jeez. I know. I'm like, I just fucked up in reverse.

01:53:26.300 --> 01:53:30.659
There I was all smug going, heh, heh, heh. But

01:53:30.659 --> 01:53:32.159
you don't have to take your shoes off anymore.

01:53:32.319 --> 01:53:34.760
I know, that's great. So you can bring in non

01:53:34.760 --> 01:53:38.250
-metallic. plane hijacking materials in your

01:53:38.250 --> 01:53:39.949
shoes and they're not even going to check. That's

01:53:39.949 --> 01:53:42.970
great. Isn't it? Yeah. What about all those people

01:53:42.970 --> 01:53:46.170
who pay for the fast pass or easy pass? They

01:53:46.170 --> 01:53:48.250
pay in advance so they don't have to go through

01:53:48.250 --> 01:53:50.409
the security line. They can just breeze onto

01:53:50.409 --> 01:53:52.800
the airplane like they're nobody. I know, and

01:53:52.800 --> 01:53:54.979
they can't be doing all the checking on them.

01:53:55.020 --> 01:53:57.199
They can have anything on them. Well, it's an

01:53:57.199 --> 01:53:59.380
example. If you pay enough money, you get to

01:53:59.380 --> 01:54:02.279
skip the rules and put everyone else in danger

01:54:02.279 --> 01:54:04.739
because you had enough money to skip the rules.

01:54:04.939 --> 01:54:07.359
The Global Entry is an interview that has to

01:54:07.359 --> 01:54:09.300
be done in person, but it only lasts about five

01:54:09.300 --> 01:54:12.000
minutes. We met a guy on the plane actually the

01:54:12.000 --> 01:54:15.420
same trip coming back that told us that. He traveled

01:54:15.420 --> 01:54:17.659
all the time, and we're talking about how easy

01:54:17.659 --> 01:54:21.020
the airport was down in... Where did we leave

01:54:21.020 --> 01:54:23.680
out of? Oh, we left out of Fort Lauderdale. Oh,

01:54:23.779 --> 01:54:26.579
yeah. I remember that one, too. Yeah. No, we

01:54:26.579 --> 01:54:29.220
left out of Miami. And the first time we left

01:54:29.220 --> 01:54:31.840
out of Miami, it was easy. Oh, no, it was harder

01:54:31.840 --> 01:54:34.020
than hell. This time it was easy. We're talking

01:54:34.020 --> 01:54:35.840
about how easy it was. He goes, I guess I'm not

01:54:35.840 --> 01:54:38.920
worried about it. I got global entry. And you

01:54:38.920 --> 01:54:41.399
have to pay a fee, and it's good for like five

01:54:41.399 --> 01:54:43.699
years. He said all it was was a five -minute

01:54:43.699 --> 01:54:47.699
interview at the airport. So your son's this

01:54:47.699 --> 01:54:50.590
big now. So you live here, yeah. And he said,

01:54:50.670 --> 01:54:55.149
that's all. So he doesn't have to get checked

01:54:55.149 --> 01:54:59.369
at all? Yep. And I think that the idea behind

01:54:59.369 --> 01:55:03.109
that, one, they want your money. Two, they're

01:55:03.109 --> 01:55:05.310
not trying to prevent anything. They just want

01:55:05.310 --> 01:55:07.649
a paper trail. If something happens, they can

01:55:07.649 --> 01:55:09.510
say, oh, well, now we've got all this information.

01:55:09.510 --> 01:55:11.329
Look how smart we are. We know all about it.

01:55:11.329 --> 01:55:13.430
Isn't that great? We're going to go down in flames,

01:55:13.430 --> 01:55:15.289
but they've got a paper trail. Yeah, but at least

01:55:15.289 --> 01:55:17.590
they know the name now. They know it now. Yeah,

01:55:17.670 --> 01:55:19.770
they're doing nothing for prevention or keeping

01:55:19.770 --> 01:55:25.470
anybody safe. They just want the money. It's

01:55:25.470 --> 01:55:27.970
like when COVID hit and they shut down schools

01:55:27.970 --> 01:55:30.510
and this and that. Oh, but the fast food restaurants

01:55:30.510 --> 01:55:32.949
could stay open. I know. And the casinos could

01:55:32.949 --> 01:55:35.750
too. The casinos, they didn't touch, and I think

01:55:35.750 --> 01:55:38.750
we all know why. Yeah, and then when they introduced

01:55:38.750 --> 01:55:41.369
the smoking ban. Oh, you can't smoke in public.

01:55:41.510 --> 01:55:45.729
Oh, except the casinos. Yeah, we don't care about

01:55:45.729 --> 01:55:49.159
your lungs there. And it was very obviously because

01:55:49.159 --> 01:55:52.000
of a payoff, but nothing is ever done about it.

01:55:52.000 --> 01:55:54.760
They completely got away with it. Why wouldn't

01:55:54.760 --> 01:55:57.899
they keep doing it? I know I keep doing stuff

01:55:57.899 --> 01:56:00.199
if I get away with it. Yeah, me too. The influence

01:56:00.199 --> 01:56:02.680
on casinos are still the same as it used to be.

01:56:02.880 --> 01:56:07.319
Yeah. So, yeah, they're going to get some payoffs

01:56:07.319 --> 01:56:10.140
or threats or whatever, but they're going to

01:56:10.140 --> 01:56:14.449
let you smoke when you go there. Yeah. Well,

01:56:14.489 --> 01:56:18.829
I'm trying to see if I have anything else. I

01:56:18.829 --> 01:56:20.449
think I'm kind of tapped out on my stuff. Yeah,

01:56:20.449 --> 01:56:25.869
me too. I think we've covered a lot of area.

01:56:26.050 --> 01:56:28.329
This one's almost up to two hours now. Oh, good.

01:56:29.250 --> 01:56:30.970
All righty. Well, we're going to piss some people

01:56:30.970 --> 01:56:35.569
off with more stuff. They deserve it. Yes, they

01:56:35.569 --> 01:56:39.710
do. It was great being back after a hiatus, a

01:56:39.710 --> 01:56:42.130
little bit of time off. Yeah, I kind of mentioned

01:56:42.130 --> 01:56:44.050
it on the other podcast. You had some stuff going

01:56:44.050 --> 01:56:47.130
on, but you'd be back. Yeah. I'm back. Yeah,

01:56:47.130 --> 01:56:50.350
there you go. And I'm about to turn 64. Oh, hell

01:56:50.350 --> 01:56:52.609
yeah. Very close to turning 64, so I'm going

01:56:52.609 --> 01:56:55.949
to sing that song. When I'm 64. Right here on

01:56:55.949 --> 01:56:58.289
this podcast. I should do that. That's live if

01:56:58.289 --> 01:57:00.750
you're right here. Yeah. Hey, maybe I can learn

01:57:00.750 --> 01:57:03.529
the chords too and I can play it. It doesn't

01:57:03.529 --> 01:57:05.289
sound like it's that complicated. Oh, I wouldn't

01:57:05.289 --> 01:57:10.810
think so. Not if Ringo's singing it. It's okay.

01:57:10.909 --> 01:57:13.890
I'm a drummer. I can insult drummers. Yeah, it's

01:57:13.890 --> 01:57:16.069
like the old joke. Who's a guy that hangs around

01:57:16.069 --> 01:57:20.569
a bunch of musicians? Drummer. What does a stripper

01:57:20.569 --> 01:57:22.569
do with their asshole every night before work?

01:57:22.829 --> 01:57:30.149
What? Drops them off at band practice. I like

01:57:30.149 --> 01:57:31.670
that one a lot. I like that one a lot. Because

01:57:31.670 --> 01:57:35.100
that could be anybody. Yes. And I know a lot

01:57:35.100 --> 01:57:38.100
of assholes. What do you call a drummer without

01:57:38.100 --> 01:57:45.039
a girlfriend? Homeless. I love that one. And

01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:47.300
this is coming from a drummer, so it's completely

01:57:47.300 --> 01:57:50.899
legit. Yes. It's like a black person using the

01:57:50.899 --> 01:57:56.079
N -word. Yep. You know, something that occurred

01:57:56.079 --> 01:57:58.819
to me, remember when it was a debate, should

01:57:58.819 --> 01:58:01.079
anybody allow to use the N -word? Who should

01:58:01.079 --> 01:58:04.079
be allowed? Under what circumstances? Yeah. Well,

01:58:04.079 --> 01:58:06.079
my brother came out with one of his pearls of

01:58:06.079 --> 01:58:10.119
wisdom. He just decided, all on his own, that

01:58:10.119 --> 01:58:13.279
the people who didn't want anyone to be able

01:58:13.279 --> 01:58:16.600
to use the N -word anymore are racist white people

01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:19.000
who are mad that they don't get to use it themselves.

01:58:20.260 --> 01:58:23.439
And that was the only reason he could come up

01:58:23.439 --> 01:58:25.899
in this bizarre brain of his why anybody would

01:58:25.899 --> 01:58:29.300
want the N -word banned. Because they were racist

01:58:29.300 --> 01:58:31.380
white people who were just mad that they couldn't

01:58:31.380 --> 01:58:34.600
say it. I don't want it banned because of free

01:58:34.600 --> 01:58:37.840
speech, but I don't like people that use it,

01:58:37.859 --> 01:58:41.020
I can tell you that. Because a lot of good friends

01:58:41.020 --> 01:58:44.979
of mine, it really demeans them. So I guess it

01:58:44.979 --> 01:58:46.840
comes down to character, and some people don't

01:58:46.840 --> 01:58:50.460
have any. Yeah, I think what they did was the

01:58:50.460 --> 01:58:53.939
smart thing. shelve the whole issue and let it

01:58:53.939 --> 01:58:57.439
work itself out. And it's doing that now, is

01:58:57.439 --> 01:59:01.020
the people who still use the N -word or slang

01:59:01.020 --> 01:59:04.819
versions of it are not seen as edgy and cool

01:59:04.819 --> 01:59:06.939
anymore. They're like, oh, you're one of those.

01:59:07.659 --> 01:59:09.960
You're one of those people who still uses that

01:59:09.960 --> 01:59:14.560
word. Okay. Well, it's kind of like... like a

01:59:14.560 --> 01:59:16.859
glam rock or something like that how it used

01:59:16.859 --> 01:59:19.500
to be like if you were in it you probably weren't

01:59:19.500 --> 01:59:22.159
that talented yeah so if you use an m word you're

01:59:22.159 --> 01:59:27.159
gimmick yeah yeah yep all right well should we

01:59:27.159 --> 01:59:29.079
go ahead and go get something to eat i guess

01:59:29.079 --> 01:59:31.880
i'd say so all righty hey everybody thank you

01:59:31.880 --> 01:59:33.840
for listening for real man it's really great

01:59:33.840 --> 01:59:36.619
serving the audience like you guys go fuck yourself