All right, shift record, got it. All right. See,
how long have we been doing this and I'm still
figuring it out? Oh, yeah, yeah. All right. This
here, you're going to find out who we are here
in a minute. Yeah. Yeah, so. Here we go. We are
the music. Grapes. Wait. Okay, I'll last a little
bit longer. That's why I went on. Did you notice
I went on for a while? Yep. I'm like, I'll make
this last a little bit. I do the scratching and
it always kills you. Oh, I know. And I do it
so badly. I should expect it by now. Yeah, something
you want to go into. I got some bullet points.
Did you want to cover Ozzy here real quick? Absolutely.
Okay, well, you know. That's kind of the big
story. Yeah. I pose this question, and I do believe
this to be true, and then I'll go into a little
bit of Ozzy's bio like I did on the other podcast.
Okay. I think, you know what, I'll go into that
after the bio, okay? Okay. Because it's a very
valid question, and I want to hear your opinion
on it. Okay, Ozzy was unceremoniously fired from
Black Sabbath back in 1979 for drug and alcohol
abuse. Hadn't they already started the next album?
They had Dio in there already. I think they already
wrote Children of the Sea. Or was in the making.
Yeah. They had a studio room, I guess, from what
I read that Ozzy didn't know about. But the point
I'm getting at is they were all cokeheads and
everything else. Yeah. Okay? And he was so excessive
that these drug addicts had to fire him. Yeah,
that's pretty bad when drug addicts say, you're
out of control. Yeah, you're out of control.
They're fucked up. They're like, that guy. That
guy right there. You're worse than us, so you're
going. Yeah. And also, I think there was probably...
some friction maybe. Yeah, I remember at the
time them saying they just couldn't get Ozzy
to work with him and do anything and he was unreliable.
Yeah, that was it. He was always fucking off
somewhere. And, you know, Sharon really drove
his career after that. But before that, he didn't
have Sharon. He had Thelma. And Thelma was always
at home. Yeah. So, which coincidentally, I did
not see any of them at the funeral. No. Weren't
his kids from his first marriage there? I thought
they were. But nobody said anything about them,
which I would figure someone would say something.
Yeah, that is odd. Well, Thelma maybe not, because
I think Ozzy was kind of seeing Sharon while
he was still with Thelma, according to his own
book. Yeah, there was definitely some overlap
there. There was some overlap. So I could see
her not doing it, you know. So anyhow, he was
supposed to be nothing. He was trash. People
were like, oh my God, you know this guy, we're
going to find him in the obituaries here. Yeah,
nobody expected Ozzy to do anything except drink
himself to death. So that's when Sharon Arden,
Don Arden, the manager of Black Sabbath, took
notice to him romantically and also professionally.
And that probably saved him because somebody
who wasn't in love with him at the same time
would have just screwed him over. Yes. Because
he would have been so easy to take advantage
of. Oh, yeah, yeah. Here, sign this. Oh, okay.
Yeah. So, all right. She saw this walking controversy
is what I call it. Yeah. So his first one is
he's going into CBS slash Jet Records and he's
trying to secure a deal that Sharon had set up.
She gave him two dubs, one for each pocket. She
said, all right, Ozzy, you go in there. And when
you start looking at these people, release each
dub in the air as a sign of peace. Well, he was
a little fuckered up. Yeah. And he decided to
bite the head off both of them. The people in
that boardroom were not impressed. No, I don't
think so. They almost didn't hire him. They kind
of put it on hold. The uppers were going, wait
a minute, wait a minute. What did he do? He bit
the head off two dubs. You think he's going to
do this all the time? Yeah, hire him. Absolutely.
Yeah. You see the reaction everyone got from
it? Yeah, this guy is a walking controversy.
Yeah. He's not expected to do anything, so they
probably got him on a pretty good deal, too.
Yeah, I think so. So Sharon was seeing what was
going on in L .A., and she was like, you know
what? This is cool, Sabbath, but we have this
new push that was derived from this music here.
This is a new thing in L .A. And Ozzy's best
friend, Dana Strum, or one of his best friends
at the time, Dana Strum, Slaughter, Vince Neal,
a lot of other groups. He was in a lot of stuff
that people didn't know. He was also a really
good studio musician. Dana Strum, very good bassist.
So he said, hey, I know this guy that you've
got to meet. His name's Randy Rhodes. Randy Rhoads
and A. Van Halen were the big slinging dicks
in L .A. Yeah. And there's a lot of controversy,
although Bluegrass, as far as I know, invented
finger tapping. Yeah. A long time ago. And before
that, it was like, maybe it made its presence
in folk or mid -eastern. But maybe not with a
guitar, like a dulcimer. Yeah, there's a hammered
dulcimer. Yes. And I think that's kind of where
somebody got the idea of messing around with
that. Because you're already hammering on it.
Yeah, but the new style. It's argued the LA style
of finger tapping with the distortion and all
that. Yeah. Was it Randy Rhodes or was it A.
Van Halen that discovered that and brought it
to new life? Some still say it was Alan Holdsworth.
I think it was too. Yeah. But nobody did it like
Andy and Randy. No, that's what they're talking
about, the note bending on it and all that. So
the note bending and all that kind of made it
different. It was the same idea, but the sound.
Yeah, it was worked in so musically and is such
an integral part of the song that it wasn't just,
oh, cool, look what he can do. It was like, no,
this is part of the song. They carried melodies
with it, which nobody ever thought of before.
Before it was a trick. It's like, hey, that's
cool. It's like, hey, wait on. Wait a minute,
wait a minute. This guy is playing part of the
melody of the song doing that. And he can play
it the other way. It's like the drummer spinning
his sticks, but in doing so plays a really awesome
drum part that you couldn't play without spinning
it. It's like, oh, okay, that's not just for
show. Yeah. And people that knew knew, and people
that didn't didn't. Yeah. You know, people that
love music and analyze it was going, what in
the hell are they doing? Yeah. So, and Eddie
Van Halen used to turn around because he didn't
want people copying his shit. Yeah, yeah. Because
it's copycat town. Oh, yeah. And they did. But,
I mean, you know, have people like Nuno Bettencourt
that made it their own. And, I mean, he learned
all of Jakey Lee's stuff in the limo headed to
back to the beginning. There's video of him.
And he made a couple of fuck -ups out there.
And everybody just, like, looked over and went,
okay. Whatever. Yeah, yeah. It's like, it's still
great. And him bowing to Jakey Lee was so cool.
It was so classy. Because, obviously, he's better
now at this stage. He could have been like, yeah,
I played it right. Instead, he's like, no, this
guy, he is a forethought. So, okay, Ozzy's supposed
to be dead in the water, so they hire him. And
Sharon went around and picked up this all -star
band. Lee Kerslake on drums, amazing drummer.
And Bob Daisley, who will never get the credit
he deserves. I've got to get you his book. You've
got to read that book. Yeah, I'd like to. Oh,
my gosh. He has so many bands. Uriah Heep, Rainbow.
Blizzard of Oz. He was in so many bands and never
really got the credit. He was a songwriter so
heavy that a lot of the classic tunes that you've
heard, he basically wrote. So there's influence
from other people like Randy Rhoads or Jakey
Lee or Uriah Heep or whoever, but he basically
wrote it. So we come out with this all -star
lineup, and it was a hit. Smash hit. People are
going, oh my gosh, you know, so. Anyhow, he goes
on, and then Randy is tragically killed. So Sharon
went out on an all -out search and found the
right guy, which was Jakey Lee, and the right
guy was not the guy that looked and acted like
Randy and played like him. It was a guy that
played more chords and melodic than he did the
fast classical version. He was more blues -based,
and it worked perfectly. It was different music,
but the music had to turn anyhow because LAC
turned. And when they did that, they hired producers
like Ron Nevison to give them that smoother LA
sound. So it goes on. So Ozzy said all along
he was supposed to probably die before he was
40. You're talking about a guy that did so many
drugs that in 1992, I believe it was, they had
the No More Tours. And that was because he was
so, so messed up. He did so many drugs and alcohol
that the doctor told him that he had AIDS. So
he comes back, I got AIDS. Okay, well, we're
going to do a final tour. Say goodbye. Well,
because another doctor, when he's not doing so
many drugs, the doctor said, you don't have AIDS.
What? Everything was already in motion. And I
thought it was always suspicious that... This
is Sandstone, the first one of that leg. He went
by like three times there. The first leg of it,
they were giving away condoms at the door. At
Sandstone Gate. I'm like, what is this about?
It's an AIDS thing. Yes. So, anyhow, he went
on to do great things, obviously. I could keep
going on, but I mean, we have a lot of stuff
we have to talk about. If you want to know the
full story, it's on... The podcast is dedicated
to the Prince of Darkness. Yeah. I've got the
full bio there of all the high points. So, you
know, it's not a surprise. Were you surprised
when you heard it? No. No. I mean, you could
tell. He was extremely weak. He was not well.
He had to be strapped in because he's uncontrolled.
Yeah. I want to clear up a fallacy right now,
though, that people don't know. Ozzy did not
have Parkinson's since 2013. He had Park disease.
Oh, okay. Park syndrome. Okay. It's similar,
but it's very well controlled with medicine.
He supposedly contracted super Parkinson's because
of a combination of unfortunate events. It started
back in 2004, 2005 with the wreck. The ATV accident
that almost killed him. Yeah. And he had to have
his spine basically redone. Yeah. He'd never
been the same after that. So in 2019, he was
at his L .A. mansion. He had a lot of steps in
it. And he was waking up for something. He was
still asleep. He fell down the stairs and he
re -injured himself. Oh, yeah. They supposedly
got a doctor that said your only alternative
is surgery when they didn't know that. He didn't
have to have surgery. He could have just let
it be. So he had the selective surgery that was
supposed to make him better, but it wasn't. So
then he had another surgery to amend the surgery
before. That didn't work. Then they found a tumor
in his spine that they had to go back in and
dig out. Lord. He had Park syndrome. He had a
variety of other health issues because of his
age and living style. Yeah. All of these combined
together to give him super Parkinson's, which
is brutal. Yeah, yeah. Regular Parkinson's, ugly
enough. Yes. But instead of it taking ten years,
eight years, it took like a year, two years.
Well, when did they announce it? 2022? I think
so. Three years, basically. Yeah. Okay, so it
sped it up. It did, yeah. And so what you had
there was a guy that was rapidly dying, and what
was supposed to be a farewell concert was really
a farewell concert. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because
people were expecting that, you know, in the
next year or two, he'd put out more music and
do more collabs and stuff. Yeah, he already would
talk to Jakey Lee. Jakey Lee was, like, putting
all over social media. He was stoked. He could
not wait to do another song or two with Ozzy.
And people like me and Davey were stoked. And
I told this story because this really got me.
Davey and I were texting, and I told him, I said,
hey, look at this article. It's about Jakey Lee
wanting to, you know, stoke. And I'm like, I'm
not sure if it's real. Davey sent me back a message
going, no, it's real. He goes, look at this.
This is pictures of him on an interview and all
that. And this is like, and there's a link to
a video that somebody did talking to him after
the show. And he said, yeah, he goes, we've talked
and we're going to definitely do a song or two.
And then while I was in the doctor's office with
my mom, I had to have my phone off. I come out.
Okay. And all I hear, and I, my friend Dave.
from Stockton and Davey both text me at the same
time, or I think it's when I was in the doctor's
office. And one of them, I just caught the back
of it, the one that Dave sent me, the guy I worked
with for many years, said, sorry to hear about
Ozzy. Love you, brother. Thought of you when
it happened. I'm like, what? And then I see Davey
saying, well, it's not going to happen now, RIP.
I'm like, fuck. So then I hit the wires everywhere.
Yeah, I mean, it was really weird the way I found
it, you know, and I was like, wow. Anyhow, we
can go on to other things because this is well
covered in the tribute episode. If you want to
hear more, do it there. Okay. Oh, I have one
question for you. Yeah. Ozzy was bigger than
the Beatles. Yeah. Definitely. Yeah, definitely.
Yeah. They've inspired more musicians, more bands,
more song. music styles. It's hard to think of
somebody who had a bigger influence than Ozzy.
Everybody. You didn't meet one person that didn't
like him. They may not have liked Sharon, but
they loved him as a person. Same with Jakey Lee.
He didn't really care for Sharon that much, but
he loved Ozzy. Anyhow, well Gene Simmons had
a really good article that you need to read if
you're inclined to. Sure. But okay, he said it
like this. He said Ozzy, they're going around
and he never had to use his rough voice like
Gene Simmons did like everyone else. Ozzy used
his regular voice to sing. That was unique. Alone,
just using that. Yeah. Everyone has to put on
this facade voice or this singing voice. He never
did. And number two, we're going around and they
were at a banquet dinner and they were sat next
to each other and they were chatting and they
really didn't get to know each other that well
until that night. Gene Simmons describes it very
well. You know, he's an intelligent guy. And
he said, you know, and he goes, everyone else
is like, hey, who's your favorite bands and all
this stuff. And everyone's like, you know, trying
to come up with these, I don't know, like, throw
me under Dream Theater and all these complex
bands, Rush or something. And he goes, oh, I'm
really into ABBA. And Gene Simmons is like, this
guy is real. He is. Genuine guy. Yeah. He's not
trying to impress me, but who he's into. Yeah,
he gave everybody the same opportunity on stage
using his equipment, his sound and stuff. He
just said, do you want to play extra? I don't
give a shit. I'll be back here. The Us Festival,
the bands were talking about, it was Bon Jovi
and Motley Crue. And this is on, don't blame
me, Aussie video from 1994, I believe. It's a
huge video of basically his life up until then,
his career. Yeah. And Aussie modeler, both Motley
and Bon Jovi are talking to each other, you know,
having clips of it. Bon Jovi's going, yeah, us
and Motley are arguing over who is going to take.
the main show, who was going to have the, you
know, and who was going to be the follow -up.
And Ozzy, he walks up there to whoever was in
control of it, and he goes, put me anywhere,
I don't care. And he said that the other two
bands, Bon Jovi and Motley, are going, shit,
people were leaving after him. Yep. Yeah, and
they said that was the worst mistake we could
have made. Yep. Nobody gave a shit after Ozzy.
Both of them said it. Nikki Sixx said it, and
Jon Bon Jovi both said it. They're like, he blew
us away. And it wouldn't daylight. There was
a summer concert in Kansas City many years back.
It was Steve Miller Band opening for Peter Frampton.
Yes. And after Steve Miller finished playing,
about half the people left. And Frampton was
so pissed. And I don't think he's been back to
Kansas City since. No big loss. Yeah. Are you
talking about Little Guy? Yeah. Yeah, little
guy, Pamela DeBarn, I think. Smallest penis ever.
Yeah, that's what she said. No wonder he's angry.
The one thing I wanted to mention about the whole
Ozzy back to the beginnings thing is I think
the one misstep that Sharon made in the whole
thing was that live stream. I agree. Which wasn't
a live stream. It was on a two -hour delay. Yeah.
So the fact that they were calling it a live
stream means they're lying to us. Plus... If
you were listening to live stream, didn't Ozzy
have this weird robotic -sounding voice? And
I remember Sharon in advance saying, don't worry
about Ozzy's voice. It just kind of is what it
is. It's what it has to be. Well, what she did
was, I mean, if you were in the stadium listening,
everything you heard was genuine and real. This
is from the video channel of the guy who exposes
everybody for backing tracks and the auto -tune
and that stuff. He said, everything in the stadium
was genuine and real. When you watch the live
stream, you're also hearing everything that everyone
in the stadium heard, except they've taken Ozzy's
voice, pitch corrected it up a half step, and
overlaid it on top of his existing vocals. So
you're hearing Ozzy's voice twice, a half step
apart. And that's what made it sound so weird.
And that was the misstep, is she didn't even
need to do that. Ozzy's voice was just fine.
She was too cautious. Yeah. And she planned it
in advance and, in fact, told everyone in advance,
okay, his voice is going to sound a little weird,
but don't worry about it. All along, she was
planning on pitch correcting his voice for the
live stream. Mistake. And there's another mistake,
too. Did you realize this? Okay, the video that
they shot for the live stream. made it look like
Black Sabbath. The rest of the members walked
off on Ozzy. Yes, and left him there all alone.
They edited out the part that made sense. Geezer
Butler came back. They left him there to absorb
it. The last time he was going to be on stage,
they're like, Ozzy, it's all yours. And it pissed
Ozzy off. He was like, no, you guys need to be
here with me. We're one band. And they're like,
no, Oz, enjoy it. This is for you. And Geezer
Butler brought him a cake. Yeah. But they edited
that out, so everyone's like, how dare they?
It made it look like Black Sabbath, a bunch of
jerks that just walked away when they got what
they wanted. Yeah, how would you like to be the
rest of Black Sabbath? They'd be like, hey, the
whole world thinks we're assholes. That's a good
thing for people to remember, is that editing
can really disguise what actually happened. Clever
editing will give you the ass. absolute wrong
impression of what happened. You know the only
reason it got out was outrage. People were going,
no, I was there. Watch this video. I remember
that too. It kind of exploded it. There's going
to be a re -edited version of the video, I'm
sure. It's coming out the first of the year.
Rob reported on it. It's going to be at Regal
Theaters and it's going to be like a three hour
compilation of the high points. It's going to
go to Charity 2 and it's going to be called Back
to the Beginning and it's going to air for like
one week. Nice. I think it's in January, so we'll
all go see it because there's nothing else to
do. Yeah, yeah. January's a pretty cold month.
Yeah, it is. So, R .I .P. Ozzy. On the day Ozzy
died that evening, Alice Cooper was playing somewhere.
Yes. And at the end of the concert, he had a
salute to Ozzy. The whole band led the audience
in a chant of, Ozzy, Ozzy, Ozzy. At an Alice
Cooper show. I know. And that was their final
thing of the concert. They played their encore,
and they left the audience chanting Ozzy at an
Alice Cooper show. That's classy. Yeah, and I'll
go a step further. The two guys that lasted through
music the whole time, Ozzy and Alice. And why
is that? No ego. Yep. No ego whatsoever. Genuinely
nice guys. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. That makes a big
difference. Yeah, it does. It does. I mean, another
guy that lasted a long time, and he's a really
genuinely nice guy, but not quite on the same
level of prolific as Rob Halford. Yeah. People
seem to love him, too. Yeah. So, anyhow. He's
had some smears against his reputation, but he
survived. Yeah, but you know that one thing about
Jamie Lane? Uh -huh. I don't think that was him.
He never managed him like people said. I think
that was just aimed at him because he was the
closest available gay man to blame. It was. I
know. And if I was Rob Halford, I'd be offended
by that. I'd be like, hey, I'm not a fucking
rapist. You guys don't do that shit to me. And
he probably realized that it's better just to
let it die on its own than to make a big deal
out of it. Yeah. I'm willing to give Rob Halford
every benefit of the doubt. Me too. Me too. I
think it's classy that he didn't respond. I would
have. I'd have been like, no, guys. Anyhow. Well,
I've got the top ten stolen guitar stories, if
you'd like to hear that. And I've got some bullet
points after that. All righty. All right, the
number ten on the list is Peter Frampton's Phoenix
Les Paul. He used to play an SG when he was in
Mount the Hoople. Then he switched to the hollow
body ES -335, but it had so many feedback problems.
He tried a friend's modified 1955 Les Paul Custom,
which had three pickings. In 55, they were using
P90s, two P90s. This was modified to take three
humbuckers, plus a whammy bar. He used it on
all of his early albums, including If Rampton
Comes Alive. That's the one he's holding on the
cover. He offered to buy it from his friend,
but his friend said, now, just give it to you.
Go ahead and enjoy it. That's cool. In 1980,
during the South American tour, the cargo plane
carrying all of Brampton's gear crashed and burned
and killed everyone. And all the gear on it was
presumed completely lost. The guitar was presumed
burned up and lost and done. Wow. I had no idea.
But it showed up at a Caracas luthier shop not
long after. And the luthier recognized it and
tried to buy it. And the guy's like, nah, nah,
I don't want to sell it. Years went by and finally
the luthier in 2011 bought it from the guy for
$5 ,000. And then flew it to Nashville to hand
it directly to Peter Frampton. No shit. In the
Gibson garage. In the Gibson garage. And Brampton
gave it right over to the guys in the Gibson
garage who restored it to the condition it was
when it was stolen. And he nicknamed it Phoenix
because it rose from the ashes and he's been
using it ever since. Very cool. Now the interesting
part that struck me is obviously that guitar
was not on the airplane when it crashed. Somebody
stole it before the plane crashed. Yeah. So did
the person who stole it also sabotage the plane
to kill everyone and disguise and cover his tracks?
So the person who had it might be a multiple
murderer for that guitar. It's an interesting
thing to think about. Well, I mean, it's a hell
of a coincidence. I know. Yeah. Wow. All right.
Number nine, Jeff Beck's 1959 Les Paul. I actually
know this guy. All right. July 21st, 1969, Jeff
Beck was playing in Ellenville, New York, and
he sprayed the crowd with a fire extinguisher
for fun and to try to fire the crowd up. The
police stormed the stage, took the band off the
stage, and took them backstage to settle them
down. While they were backstage, the audience
got up and looted their gear. Lots of stuff got
stolen, including his 1959 Les Paul. It resurfaced
in 2000, and guitar dealer Harry Margalef found
it. He comes up again in these stories. He asked
Beck permission to buy it. He called up Jeff
Beck and said, hey, I found that guitar of yours
that got stolen all those years ago, and this
guy wants to sell it. Is it okay with you if
I just go ahead and buy it? And Beck said, yeah,
that's fine. I've moved on from that guitar.
Go ahead. So this collector, Perry Margolaf,
a dealer and collector, he paid $75 ,000 to an
anonymous person. This is not the story I thought
it was. And then 2018, Jeff Beck said, you know
what? I do want the guitar back. It's mine. It
was stolen from me. You have to give it to me.
What a jerk. Wait a minute, this is the story.
I heard it a little bit different. Go ahead.
And Marguleth said, no, in that conversation,
you said, I don't care, I've moved on, you can
go ahead and buy it, do whatever. Beck says,
no, that phone call never happened. And they've
been fighting about it ever since, and it still
hasn't been resolved. And Jeff Beck's dead, so
it's kind of, you know, it's kind of a moot point
at this point, but that Perry Marguleth. insist.
I offered him. I said, you want me to buy it
for you? Do you want it back? Is it okay if I
buy it for me? Wasn't there like a lot of controversy
about Rod Stewart not getting paid from the Jeff
Beck group or something too? Yeah. Maybe that's
what you got with him. Maybe so. Alright, number
eight. Billy Corgan's Gish Stratocaster. 1992
Smashing Pumpkins album was called Gish, and
this is the guitar he was using to record it
and play on the tour. After the Detroit show,
this guitar was stolen, and Corrigan offered
a $20 ,000 no -questions -asked return reward.
He said, I don't care, I'm not going to care,
just give me my guitar back, I'll give you $20
,000 no -questions -asked. Nothing. Now, in 2019,
Corrigan was contacted by Beth James of Flushing,
Michigan, and said, I bought this guitar in 2009
at a garage sale for $200. And she didn't even
play guitar. She hung it on her wall as art.
And then she noticed some of the unique features
on the guitar, some of the modifications Corrigan
had made, so she started looking it up because
she wanted to know, well, maybe this is a valuable
guitar. I should insure it. Found out it was
Billy Corrigan's guitar. So she contacted him
and said, you can have it back. All you have
to do is come get it. And there's a picture there
of Billy Corgan in this shaved head, fur coat,
picking up this guitar with this enormous grin
on his face. And she just gave it back to him
and said, here, you can have it. And he had to
immediately have it fixed up, and he used it
on the Sear album, CYR. And he's been playing
it and using it ever since. Wow. He's just tickled
pink to have that. Did he give her a compensation
or anything? I imagine so. I hope so. Yeah, I
imagine. That was really cool of her. Yeah. Okay,
number seven. Jaco Pistorius' 1962 fretless Fender
Jazz bass, nicknamed the Bass of Doom. Isn't
that Oscar Pistorius' dad? Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. Wasn't that the Blade Runner? Blade Runner.
The guy who killed his girlfriend? Yeah. Okay,
this Bass of Doom is used on most of his recorded
music. He had bought a regular Fender Jazz bass,
and he pulled all the frets out, like teeth.
And then he filled the slots with wood putty
and put a couple layers of marine lacquer over
it. So it would be like a fretless bass? Yeah.
But from a distance, when you looked at it, you
could see where the frets used to be. So you've
got visual markers of where to put your fingers.
It would be the greatest way to play a fretless
bass. It would be so easy. But that was his bass
of doom, and he used it on everything. So he
wanted it to appear like it was a fretless bass,
but actually it wasn't, because he still had
the markers enough to tell what fret he was on.
Yeah, so it played and sounded fretless, but
I found one like it in the pawn shop, where you
could see lines where the frets were, and when
you played it, it was like, hell, this is easy.
I can play these notes exactly right. You don't
have to guess where it is on the... Yeah, because
a fretless bass is unrelenting. Yeah, it is.
It sounds so beautiful. Yeah, oh gosh. But anyway,
his career took off and he had drug problems.
Plus, he was a real jerk. He's the kind of guy
that if he was in the audience and he didn't
like the way the bass player was playing, he
would get up on the stage and take the guy's
bass from him and play it. Say, no, no, you're
doing it wrong. Here's how to do it. Just a relentless
jerk. Anyway, so in 1982, it was either one,
stolen, or two, he gave it away while stoned,
or three. He left it on a park bench while stoned.
Left it on a park bench is what I'm going with.
That's probably more likely, but it could be
any one of those three. He heard someone ruffling
a burrito bag. Yeah. Now, Jaco Pistorius himself
died five years later after a savage beating
outside a Florida bar. He was an undiagnosed
bipolar, not taking any meds. And he had a history
of pissing off people and being arrogant. and
apparently he mouthed off enough to the people
in this bar that he left, and they jumped him
in the alley beside the bar and just beat him
to death. Wow. Yeah. You know, that's where you
got the famous picture of little Oscar there
at his dad's graveside crying. Yeah. Turns out
he was a prick too. Yeah. Let's see. Now, the
bass was rumored to be in a private collection
in New York. It showed up in 2006 in a New York
City music store. It was bought by Robert Trujillo
of Metallica, who recognized it and still owns
it. But he gave it to Jaco Castorius' other son,
who plays bass, and said, here, this is your
dad's bass. This is what he used. It was recorded
on. I still own it, but you can use it as long
as you want. Pretty cool for that guy to do that.
That is. And Pistorius' son was quoted as saying,
you know, I've never seen this bass, I've just
heard about it as this force of nature, and I'm
just thrilled to be able to play it. And apparently
his son is a pretty damn good bass player without
the toxic personality. Yeah, probably not going
to get beat to death. I want to know what he
said to make that whole bar come out and beat
him to death. No kidding. But a bipolar person
is a fucking pain in the ass because I've worked
with a couple of them. One of them's dead and
I still want to dig him up and fucking slap him.
Okay, number six. Not really, but you get the
idea. John Lennon's Gibson J160E Acoustic. He
bought it new in 19... Yeah, looks like it's
working. I'm going to turn this headphone volume
down again to blow our own ears out. We had a
technical problem. Yeah. Well, we didn't lose
too much, maybe 10 minutes. Yeah. All right.
We had just finished talking about Jaco Pistorius.
I was getting ready for John Lennon's acoustic
Gibson J160E. Oh, yeah. He bought it new in 62,
at the same time Harrison bought a matching one.
So the serial numbers are very close. They paid
about $450 in that then money, about $4 ,500
now. He swapped guitars with George Harrison
at one point. He said, hey, you play mine, I'll
play yours. But he did a lot of songwriting on
it, used it on a lot of their early albums, etc.
It was left behind after the Holiday Inn show
in 1963 by the roadie Mal Evans. Four years later,
shows up in San Diego because it was taken in
trade. Then sold for $200 to a local bluegrass
musician. I guess nobody's checking serial numbers.
I guess not. And then that local bluegrass musician
sold it to a childhood friend of mine named John
McCaw, who used it for 14 years in his own music
career. And then in 2014... he saw an article
in a magazine about George Harrison's guitars.
And he said, ooh, this one I have looks just
like Harrison's, and it's got a very, very similar
serial number. So he didn't realize it was John
Lennon's guitar. He contacted the Beatles expert
who authenticated it and said, yeah, this is
Harrison's guitar. And I think since Harrison
had already passed away, he sold it at auction
for $2 .41 million. Geez. All right, next up
we have Harrison's Rickenbacker 360 -12 string.
This was given directly to him in 1964 by the
president of Rickenbacker. And it was the second
one ever built. There weren't too many built.
And it was used on the album Hard Day's Night
and a tour. But they never recorded the serial
number. Now, Harrison bought a second one. Oh,
wow, they never did that. Geez. I know. I guess
it just wouldn't feel that important. But Harrison
bought another one right before, let's see, he
bought another one. No, he was gifted another
one by a music store. So now he had two of them.
Man. Right before the concert at the Old Met
Stadium in Minnesota, where Jimmy Page and Led
Zeppelin played for his gut store. I used it
on the album Rubber Soul in the last tour. It
may have been stolen during the Let It Be sessions.
The concert at Old Met Stadium is the one where
you can see it and hear it. It wasn't stolen
after that. Probably stolen after the last show
of the last tour right before Harrison went to
India for the first time in 1966. Put all his
crap in storage and said, I'm leaving the country.
So somebody went and stole it because they knew
Harrison wouldn't notice for a long time. The
Rickenbacker company looked up the serial number
run and said, we've narrowed it down to five
possibilities. Your stolen one is going to have
one of these five serial numbers. And eventually
one of those five serial numbers showed up, but
there's just no way to tell whether it was Harrison's
guitar or not. It has like a 20 % chance, but
whoever owns it gets to own it because there's
no way to know for sure. Yeah, they can't prove
it. Yeah. Wow. But at the same token, I mean,
yeah, it's worth something, but it can't be worth
more than what, you know what I mean? Yeah. It
can't be worth the true value because 20 % chance.
Yep. All right, next up we have Jimmy Page's
1960 Black Les Paul Custom. Three pickups with
a Bigsby vibrato system. I call it a tram, but
it's a vibrato. Okay, yeah, okay. He bought it
when he was 18. He was already doing three sessions
a day as a session musician. And he bought this
guitar for $400 on the layaway plan. They had
K -Marts back then. I guess. It's the guitar
you hear on the Who's song, I Can't Explain.
Donovan's Sunshine Superman. It was later that
he bought Joe Walsh's Les Paul in 1969. And said,
ooh, I like this one better. This is my number
one. So he started using that one primarily in
the 1960s. It wasn't used quite so much. And
that's when he made the break from Telecaster
guitars. On the first Zeppelin album, that's
Telecaster he's playing. I'll be damned. No,
I remember that. I remember we talked about that
before. Yeah, he was a Tele guy. Now, he took
his 1960 on tour in 1970, and it was last used
at the Met Stadium, again in Minnesota, April
12, 1970. And then the band flew to Montreal
for the next gig. When they got to Montreal,
the guitar wasn't there. It had never made it
onto the airplane. Now what had happened was
the baggage handler in Minnesota knew what it
was and stole it. Took it home, modified it heavily,
and then left it in its case under his bed for
who knows how many years. You know, back then
they could have carried on. Yeah. They could
have just said, no, this guitar stays with me.
I don't understand why on the real important
ones they didn't do that. I really don't know.
I think they all started. Yeah. So anyway, in
1993, his widow takes the guitar to Willie's
American Guitars in St. Paul. What a name. Yeah.
Let's go to Willie's. And he said... My husband
admitted that he stole this guitar from Jimmy
Page in 1970, and I want to sell it. So the guitar
store bought it for $5 ,000, contacted Jimmy
Page and his people and said, we think we have
your missing guitar. And they described it to
him, but they described the modified version.
And Jimmy Page was like, no, that's not mine.
I had two extra switches on it, and there was
a big speed vibrato system on it. No, that's
not my guitar. So he blew them off. So an employee
of the store bought the guitar, played it for
20 years, and then brought it in for a headstock
repair. Like we said the first time, why in the
fuck did he bother? I know. It's crazy. They
brought it in for a headstock repair, and while
they were checking over the paint and the construction
and stuff, it was like, oh, here's where the
modifications were. We could see the difference
in paint. There were two switches here. There
was a big speed here. So they contacted Jimmy
Page again, and he said, okay, that's my guitar.
So the guy took it to him, and when Jimmy Page
picked it up and held it, he said he recognized
it immediately. I don't know how long it's been,
but this is the guitar I can tell by the way
it feels. So in the way of compensation, Jimmy
Page went and found an identical 1960 Les Paul
Custom worth about $70 ,000 and then swapped
the guy. Wow. So the guy still had his classy,
classy. That was really good. Like I said the
first time around, that's not bad for an Aleister
Crowley following in heroin. Yeah, he's got some
conscience. Yeah, allegedly. But okay, I got
this. All these people just contact these stars.
How the hell is that done? I guess through a
music store. I guess. Yeah. Because how can you
just do that? Right now, it's like... Hey, you
want to call it Vince Neil? We couldn't do that.
No. We went down to Guitar Center and said, hey
man, can you get in touch with Zach Wild for
me? He'd be like, no. It's, let's see, 1039 Western
Time. Nah, he'd be drunk. Yeah. Next up, Paul
McCartney and his violin -style bass. It's a
Hamburg Hoffner 500 -1. It vanished when the
band broke up. It was the one he bought way early
in his career. He wanted a Fender precision -based,
but he couldn't afford it, and there weren't
a whole lot of left -handed options. So he found
this, thought, eh, sounds pretty good, I'll buy
it. And he used it for some of the early stuff.
And then it became a backup, and he used it as
a backup until about 69. And it was either, one,
taken out of the closet during the Let It Be
sessions, or two, stolen out of the back of a
van in Notting Hill in 1972. Now, there was a
2024 documentary about this stolen vase. I do
remember that, too. Yeah, and somebody watched
it and said, you know what, there's an old vase
in the attic that looks just like that. I wonder
what that is. And they went up and found it and
had it authenticated, and that was the stolen
vase. Wow. And the back story was, the person
said, the guy who bought it from said he stole
it out of somebody's van. So apparently that's
what it actually, in 72, it was sitting in the
back of the van, and somebody stole it. And they
returned it to McCartney within a few days, and
he was very pleased to have it. George Harrison,
his 1957 gold -top Les Paul, which he nicknamed
Lucy, first belonged to John Sebastian of the
Loving Spoonful. And we know what the loving
spoonful refers to. The same thing for 10cc.
It should be 1cc, but there's such men, they
went for 10. Yes. He -men. Yeah. We overproduced.
Yeah, that's it. Talk about ejaculate. Both bands
remained after that. Okay, so John Sebastian
bought it, played it for a while, sold it to
Rick Derringer of the McCoys. He sent it back
to Gibson and said, I don't like the gold color
painted cherry red. So they did, and he sent
it back, and he's like, ooh, I don't like it.
So we sold it to Dan Armstrong, a New York guitar
dealer, where it was bought by Eric Clapton.
After he banged a... Yeah, after he banged his
wife. Yes. And then he gave it to George Harrison
in August of 68, who named it after Lucille Ball,
because it was red. And Lucille Ball had famously
red hair. That's disgusting. My tiny little fists
are angry. Now, this is the guitar that you're
hearing Clapton play on the Beatles song While
My Guitar Gently Weeps. Man, and that tone in
it. And there's a Peter Frampton remake of that
song definitely worth listening to. I don't know
if I've ever heard that, actually. Oh, it's a
hell of a guitar solo. Okay. Let's see. It was
stolen from George Harrison's home in 1973. It
was immediately tracked to a local shop who had
just sold it. But by the time Harrison's people
got there, the guy who'd bought it was already
gone. Fortunately, he left his phone number on
the receipt. It was a guy named Miguel Ochoa,
who was at the time the most well -known guitar
player in Mexico. So he was in L .A. for the
day. He bought it. He's like, all right, take
it home to Mexico. So George Harrison called
him on the phone and said, it's George Harrison,
and that guitar you bought is one that was stolen
from me just a few hours ago. I'd really like
to get it back. And the guy's like, yeah, what
a stupid joke, man. Quit jerking me around and
hung up on him. You know, George Harrison was
like, shit. He had to keep calling the guy back,
and eventually the guy is like, okay, I believe
you are who you say you are. I can hear him right
now. Look, Mr. Chihuahua, could you please just
fucking bring him back? But, you know, the guy
is like, you know, I paid good money for this.
I don't want to just give it away. So they negotiated
for a while, and the deal they struck was Harrison
would buy a Fender Precision bass and a Sunburst
Les Paul and swap them immediately and swap them
back and forth for it, which is what they did.
And George Harrison forever joked that that guitar
had been kidnapped and returned. He still owned
it at the time of his death. But the 58 Les Paul
that he traded to the guy, that one sold for
$312 ,000 recently. Backstory is everything.
Yeah, you're right. Eric Clapton's Be No, 1960,
verse Les Paul. It got its name from the cover
of the very influential John Mayall and the Blues
Breakers album with Eric Clapton on the cover,
where he's reading a Beano comic book, so he
called the guitar Beano. He was later rehearsing
in the church with his new band, Cream. Gee,
I've heard of them. Yeah, yeah. Another band
named after Ejaculate. Oh, that's right. It was
stolen from the church they were practicing in.
And then a week later, someone came back and
stole the case, too. That always could be. That's
so ballsy. But wait, there's more. Like I said
before, you know, they get back to the hideout.
Where's the case? Oh, damn it. I forgot the case.
Oh, anyway. In 2016, Joe Bonamassa. said, I know
where that guitar is. I've seen it. It's in a
private guitar collection somewhere on the East
Coast, but I can't tell you any more than that.
So he just didn't know more than that. Yeah,
I think he knows more than that, but I think
the person who owns it is a dangerous person.
He doesn't want to be known that he's got stolen
guitars. Okay, I thought maybe he didn't like
Clapton. He's like, hey, hey. No, I think he's
just afraid of the guy who's got it. I thought
maybe he was an immigrant. Oh, he might have
been. Anyway, Clapton said that is still the
best guitar he ever played, and he's never found
one like it, and it remains officially missing.
And then the last one I had was Joe Perry's 1959
Les Paul. This actually, it's an honorable mention
because it wasn't stolen. Joe Perry actually
sold it. Like, 74, Aerosmith got real big. Five
years later, in 79, the band was on the skids
because they spent every penny on drugs, and
their concerts sucked. They were all heroin addicts,
basically. No, they were so wasted all the time.
Joe Perry was ready to quit and form the Joe
Perry Project. Yeah, which went real well. The
music did not do the talking. No, no. He was
still drugged out of his mind. Yes. And he didn't
have a lot of money. He was mostly playing strats
at the time anyway, so he decided, I'm just going
to sell this Les Paul. Sold it to a Boston guitar
shop for $4 ,500. An employee immediately bought
it. It's like, hell yeah, Joe Perry's guitar.
I'm buying this. And then resold it to guitar
collector Jerry Beaudoin, I presume is French.
Well, yeah, I think I'd be pretty good. Yeah.
Now, in 1982, Joe... Unless he was adopted. Could
be, could be. In 1982, Joe Perry got sober. They
reformed Aerosmith. And in 84, he wanted to find
the guitar again. But it had already been sold
to Eric Johnson. So he contacted Eric Johnson
and said, Hey, man, I'd really like to buy that
guitar back. You know, it was a mistake for me
to sell it, and I really like it. So Eric Johnson
said, sure, fair market value, you can have it
back. And Joe was like, uh, I'm kind of broke
right now, so... But he kept talking to Eric
Johnson. Heroin was very expensive. Yes. Eric
eventually sold it to Dixie Guitars in Atlanta,
where it was bought by Slash. Who was a huge
Joe Perry band. Yes, which I only learned recently.
And he actually sounds a lot like him on rhythm.
He does. Very much so. He does. So that was in
1989. He bought it for four grand. Or eight grand,
I'm sorry. And then he used it in Guns N' Roses.
You've heard it on a ton of songs. In the November
Rain video. That's the one he's playing during
his solo, staying out in front of that little
white church. That might be the best solo he's
ever done, too. And that's such a gorgeous looking
guitar. It is. That's a really nice guitar. But
then eventually Brad Whitford, the rhythm guitar
for Aerosmith. He was a great rhythm guitarist.
Very underrated. Brad Whitford and the drummer
Joey Kramer. Don't get the... Oh, Joey Kramer.
Oh, gosh, yeah. He's a monster. Yeah. Anyway,
Brad Whitford was looking through a magazine
and saw this article about Slash's guitars, and
he recognized Joe Perry's guitar. And he showed
it to Joe and said, hey, look, Slash has got
your guitar now. So Joe Perry called Slash and
said, can I buy my guitar back? And Slash is
like, you know what? This is part of my story
now, and it's in my collection. It plays. I really
don't want to part with it. I understand, but
I really don't want to part with it. Well, Joe
kept calling him over the years and kept saying,
you sure you don't want to give me that? I'd
really love to have that. And he just kept needling
with him. Okay, fast forward to the year 2000.
It's Joe Perry's 50th birthday party. He hired
Cheap Trick to come play for him. And he got
up on stage and was playing with Cheap Trick
on guitar. Halfway through the set, Joe's guitar
tech comes out with that 1959 Les Paul and said,
here you go, it's a gift from Slash. He thinks
it's time that she's returned to you. And Joe
Perry was just out beside himself. And he played
it for the rest of the show. And then he has
hired a security guard specifically for that
guitar. Every time it leaves Joe's house, that
security guard never lets it out of the sight
until the guitar is handed to the guitar tech
who hands it to Joe Perry. And then when Joe's
done, the tech brings it back, puts it in the
case, and the security guard never lets it out
of the sight until it's back home in Joe's house.
That was so cool to slash, though. It is. It
is. Coincidentally, there's a couple of things
about Aerosmith. Oh, do you have something to
add? I was just going to say, Joe Perry got on
the Conan show and said, Slash has got the biggest
heart of anyone I've ever known. I don't know
how it fits in his chest. He's such a great guy.
And he made sure the whole world knew. This is
what Slash did for me because he's such a good
person. Yeah, you know what? I agree with him
100%. Man, that takes a really good guy to do
that. Yeah. Jimmy Crispo, he joined Aerosmith,
and he was the only sober one there. And he was
like, I remember reading, I mean, he's dead now,
but I remember reading, you know, he's like going,
I don't know what to do, man. I'm trying to rehearse
and nobody's around. And Mick Mars and Aerosmith
almost got into a fist fight. Oh, gosh. Yeah,
Mick Mars was playing in the same studios that
Aerosmith was. They were practicing. Mick Mars
just sold out and kept bleeding into their recordings.
I can see getting upset about that, yeah. So
they kept sending someone down, knocking on Mick
Mars' door or whatever. And Mick Mars is finally
like, you keep fucking interrupting me. He jumped
out there and he was going to go say something
to Aerosmith, but it's this guy. And he goes,
you tell those guys to get the fuck out of here.
I'm not leaving. And then they're going to go
down and visit him. And the guy that was like
the go -between finally just quit doing it. He's
just like, I'm not doing it. And I guess they
didn't get into a fight. Yeah, yeah. That was
smart. Quit delivering the message. Well, nobody's
wanted to leave their rehearsal session, but
they're both pissed. But they have made up since
then. That's good. Yeah. So there's the part
we missed. Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and the guy
coming by putting something on her. Oh, yeah.
Yeah. I'll look at it later. I put it underneath
there so it won't blow away. I have some bullet
points if you want to get in them. Yes, sir.
Um. Will there be any unreleased material from
Ozzy that's suddenly found? Yes. Yeah, I think
there's going to be a lot of it. Yeah. And I'm
hoping they'll eventually release all ten hours
of that concert on video. Yeah, I know they're
going to do the two -hour version of it. I'd
like to see them release all of it. Or three
-hour. It's either two or three. I wish they
would do the whole thing. I could skip through
the parts I don't like. That's fine. Or I could
do it incrementally. Whatever. So I'd be willing
to do that. And I imagine you know Sharon that
will be available. I would think so. Yeah. And
also, I think, if nothing else, not just for
charity, but to salute her husband. Yeah. I think
he deserves for the whole thing to be out. Yeah,
yeah. I'd like to have a copy of it. I know that.
Yeah. All those musicians. I mean, just like...
Amazing. We'd love to see the interaction. Yeah.
We would have loved to have been backstage and
watched the way they all interact with each other
and hang out. Like I said before, no one else
would have known that Nuno was bowing to Jakey
Lee, the forefather. Yeah. You know, on that
fucking three -hour version, that's not going
to be on there. Or where Black Sabbath left and
they wanted Ozzy to soak it in and Ozzy was mad
trying to get the whole band out there. And they
said, no, Ozzy, this is for you. Yeah. You go
out here, we may see a stage again, you're not
going to. Please, just soak it up. And then they
edited it. And they caused such a misunderstanding.
Yeah, people thought that Black Sabbath walked
off on him when they did not. And then Geezer
Butler brought him a cake. A very cool cake.
Look it up. But you would have never known that
by the way it was edited, and that's probably
the way the videos didn't come out and look like
they walked off on you. And the people who were
there and saw the show are the ones that said,
oh, no, no, no, no, this is not right. Yeah,
the ones that sent in the video, they're like,
no, this is what happened. Yeah, because the
video was on a two -hour delay. Yes, that was
the other thing that was bullshit. Livestream,
yeah, sure. Yep. It's like this podcast is live.
It's like, I know, we get everybody, like I checked
in here. It's live if you get down here. Yeah,
it's live at this moment. We gave you notice.
Yeah. We're here. Invent a time machine, show
up right now. Right. Evidently, I haven't invented
one yet. No. You're that or nobody cares. Yeah.
I'm going to go with a second. Yeah, I would
say so. I wouldn't come back to this time. Sunday
morning, they're like, what? No, I'm not going.
No. Fuck off. All right. When will Alice Cooper
retire? You know, he has always said that he's
going to wait for Mick Jagger to retire and then
work one day longer than Mick Jagger's career
so he can retire ahead of Mick Jagger. That's
always been the joke he told. I'm starting to
think he's going to retire sooner. At one point,
he talked about franchising the Alice Cooper
idea as like turning it over to someone younger
who will keep it going. I don't think that'll
work. I don't think anyone will accept it unless
it's him. Yeah. But he's, what, 76? 76. No, he's
77. 77. He's one year older, yeah. Yeah. So he's
still going strong, still touring. He still does
great. Yeah. His voice held up. Yep. And he's
still putting out new albums. His recent album's
called Road. It's pretty decent. Yeah. The one
weird thing is there was this whole big thing
about this... New guitar player named Yossi,
who was very, what's the word, not ambidextrous,
anthropomorphic. Agile. Androgynous. Androgynous,
that's it. He's very androgynous, which was exactly
the way the Alice Cooper group was back in 67
and 68 and 69. So there's a big deal about how
he's the new lead guitarist, and then it all
disappeared and you never heard about him again.
He's out on the road without him. He did the
album without him. He's got a new album out called
The Revenge of Alice Cooper with all of his original
bandmates. The guy's not on there either. So
what was the deal with him? Why did he go to
this big deal of introducing this guy? Here's
our new lead guitarist. I'm going to say that
they... They figured out that it wasn't received
well and they didn't want to make a big deal
out of it. That sounds like it's probably it.
Yeah. Think about Alice Cooper fans. Yeah. 90
% of them probably watch Fox News. I think so.
Alice is a pretty conservative guy. Yes, he is.
He is. He's a born -again Christian. Yeah. He's
into family values. Yeah. I'm saying this right
here. He's a big golf nut. I'll bet you they're
like, I ain't going to go see that with that
damn head over there. That type of thing. So
he's like, you know what? This is causing too
much bullshit. I'm just going to have to stop
it. And getting back together with his original
band members has been much better received. Yes.
People love it. I mean, that was the whole deal
with Back to the Beginning, too. Yeah. It was
like, you know, the originals all get back together.
Although I have to admit, when it comes to Sabbath,
my favorite version was the Dio. Yeah, that was
really good. Boy, they just had a completely
different sound. Heavier, darker. I really enjoyed
it. Yeah. It was... Besides Iommi's guitar, you
wouldn't know it was the same band. And, you
know, the Ozzy solo stuff at the time. It was
just as heavy, but it was fun, happy party music.
It was like get excited, have fun, drink beer,
stare at girls kind of music. Yeah, and that
was Sharon. Sharon was like, come on, let's go
to L .A. We're going to go look for a new guitarist.
You're not doing that stuff back then. You're
your own self now. And that was so smart to not
have Ozzy competing directly with Sabbath when
they were both starting to, you know. I mean,
look at it. It would never have worked. No. Instead,
he found a new phenom. It worked out great for
us because we got two awesome musical forces
instead of one. You know, radio stations had
fucking boners. Oh, hell yeah. First Ozzy came
out and they're like, man, this shit is great.
And then Sabbath came out. And they're like,
man, this shit is great. And you could play them
against each other. You could play the fans against
each other for more ratings. Yeah, it was awesome
times. Yeah, I'm sure they had a fucking blast
with that. Yeah. All right, the next one. I can
see KY going against SuperQ on that one. Oh,
yeah. I think SuperQ. Wasn't that more poppy,
though? I think around 75 or 76 or 77. Yeah,
they were pretty pop in the top 40, but then
they went country. Yeah, that was in the 90s.
Their philosophy, when they started the radio
station, they said, whatever the number one music
format is, that's what our format will be. And
when country became more popular than pop and
top 40, they switched formats and it worked for
them. In one night, I knew people that worked
there, KBQ lost 40 ,000 listeners. Yep. Because
of two things, grunge and country. Yep. But they
got them all back. Pop music was dead. Country
was big and grunge was big. So they're like,
we're going to go do country. That's where glam
went anyhow. In the 90s, young country was glam.
Reinvented. And now country is borrowing heavily
from hard rock now. Yes, I know. You get these
screaming distorted guitars in a country song
about mama in your pickup truck. Yeah. Okay.
Rock used to follow country. Other way around
now. But then again, rock has an identity crisis
again. Yeah, that's true. It's never going to
come back because they cannot figure out what
people like. Yeah. The best solution is just
play. Bands should just play what they like and
what they're good at, and you'll find an audience.
That's the problem. They have too much pressure,
record companies, producers. Chase the demographic.
Yes, you've got to do this. Yeah, it worked out
well for Motley. Oh, wait, maybe that was a bad
example. So, all right. Who was the band that
was disinvited from back to the beginning? I
don't know any names, but I remember hearing
that there were bands that showed up and really
wanted a slice of the pie, and Sharon said, get
the fuck out. Yes. Not even going to consider
it. As long as you have that attitude, we don't
want you on our stage. I don't know who they
were, though. There was one band in particular
that was, I guess, a pretty big band, and they
went, well, now it's just Sharon. They wouldn't
reveal it. I have a theory. Everyone said it
was Motley, but Motley came back with a bet and
just said it was not us. Yeah. We have some health
issues going on. We would never do that to Ozzy.
I believe it. Yeah. It was too quick and too,
like, no, I didn't. Yeah. Even though I don't
have a lot of respect for Motley Crue's business
decisions. Me neither. Me neither. I don't think
they did that. Yeah. John Five has some medical
things going on. Oh, gosh. Yeah. John 5, I think,
is going to end up quitting Motley, anyhow. People
hate him in there. Yeah. The people who loved
him hate him in there. Yeah. The people who love
Motley hate him in there. Yeah. Yeah, the Motley
fans don't want him, and his previous fans are
waiting for him to quit doing this so they can
like him again. They want him to come back. Yeah.
Yeah, so. Okay, I have a theory. I read where,
I forgot the number. Dave Ellison was not in
because he's not in Megadeth anymore, and he
was actually at the show. Yeah. It was a member
of Megadeth said, we were in Europe, and because
people said the other big three were there, why
were you not there? And besides, they've been
friends with Ozzy over the years and played with
him and stuff. And one of the band members, not
even Dave Mustaine, said this. They said, well,
we were in Europe at the same time, and we sent
a message to our manager. about lining it up
so we could be there. I'll bet you the manager
tried to get a slice of the pie from the band,
and it wasn't even anybody like Dave Mustaine
or anybody's fault. It was the manager. That
makes sense, yeah. And that's probably why Sharon
won't say. She knows what happened. She's like,
well... She didn't want to smear the band for
what their manager did. Yes, and here's another
example. Good idea. You know why Jakey Lee showed
up? Tom Morello personally called him. Ah. Tom
Morello's sitting there looking at the lineup.
He goes, this is missing J .D. Lee. He goes,
this guy was a huge one. He was a guy that followed
Randy and took it in another direction, and people
still loved him and still followed him. I'm a
huge Jake fan. I mean, I can't compare him and
Zach. They're completely different, but they're
both fantastic players. It's kind of like when
David Gilmour replaced Sid Barrett in Pink Floyd.
Changed the sound, made them what they were.
You don't disrespect Dave Gilmore? No, no. It's
like they're both, yeah, they're both did their
own part. Yeah. So I think it was a megadeth.
Yeah. I got misunderstanding. Because this is
the type of thing where Dave Mustaine has Sharon's
number. He should have called her himself. Yeah.
If this is indeed what happened, he should have
said, Hey, Sharon, we love Oz. We love you. What
do we got to do? We want to be there. We want
to be part of it. Since that didn't happen, I'll
bet you money got bought. I imagine Megadeth
is having some words with their management. Might
have fired him. Yeah. All right. Ozzy stated
the week before he passed that his next album
was going to be with Zach Wilde. He said because
of fans, because the fans demanded it, and he
was going to do the songs of Jakey Lee, too,
on their own. But he got away from Zach Wilde.
He was using various other musicians and Andrew
Watt. So, and Andrew Watt was a producer, too,
and a guitarist on Ordinary Man. And he played
some songs on Patient No. 9. Yeah. And he produced
that. So, it was going to go back to Zach because
people wanted it. And there's a big, you know,
big clear -cut gathering of people who said,
we want Zach, we want you guys to do something
with Zach. Yeah, yeah. And so they're going to
do that. So my question is, will Zach release
a tribute song or album for Ozzy? I think so.
I thought you were going to ask, is Zach going
to go ahead with the stuff he was going to do
with Ozzy and do it himself? Yeah, I think it's
going to be a tribute. He'll do it as a tribute,
but he's not going to say it. He sings just like
him. Yeah, he does. Why wouldn't he? Yeah. I
mean, and Zach is really, really good, despite
what people think on ballads. Silent Prayer is
his solo, true solo project, and that song is
amazing. He's got some interesting, I mean, he
doesn't just have like that southern, he doesn't
have that chug -chug stuff. He does everything.
He does Hendrix. Felt like Hendrix. Yeah. He
does Dimebag Darryl. Oh, wow. Just like Dimebag.
I mean, I can't tell the difference. I was trying
to think of situations where another member of
the band sounds just like the lead singer. Because
you're saying Zach Wild sounds just like Ozzy.
Well, a lot of times, that's why if he wasn't
on the album, he would tour with him. He backed
up Oz's voice a lot. I know in The Doors, their
keyboard player, Ray Manzarek, sounded just like
Jim Morrison. And when Morrison was too drunk
to perform, he would be there. Let's see. In
Genesis... Peter Gabriel was their lead singer,
and Phil Collins was the drummer. He sounded
just like him. That's why they elected him after
him. And let's see, the Alice Cooper group, their
rhythm guitarist, Michael Bruce, sounded just
like Alice, so he could fill in. Jack Bruce's
brother. Yes. That could be. Lenny Bruce's brother
-in -law. Lenny Bruce's brother -in -law, yes.
And Bruce Wayne's third nephew. Yes. Are you
going to say third nipple? Third nipple, yeah.
Bruce Wayne's third nipple. Yeah, there have
been a number of bands where there's somebody
else in the band who can sing just like the singer.
Yeah. And it makes sense. You listen to the guy
all the time. You kind of learn to sing like
him. Yeah. Well, when I went to Zack's Sabbath,
I was amazed. Because when I went to the bathroom,
I didn't imagine Zack on stage. I imagined Ozzy
on stage. Because he's singing Symptom of the
Universe when I was taking a piss. It's like,
all right, it's kind of a little bit more of
a mellow song. I can go safely take a piss and
not miss anything. Remember Zach Wild's little
short -lived band, Pride and Glory? Yes. And
the song, Losing Your Mind? Yeah. He sounds nothing
like Ozbeon. Oh, I know. He's all dark and growly.
Yes. Guy's got an amazing voice if he can do
all that. I know. He does. He won't ever get
the credit because he's such a guitar player.
I like that song, Losing Your Mind. It is good.
It's the most hard -rocking song I've ever heard
that still has a banjo in it. The song kicks
ass, and the banjo's okay. Awesome. You talk
about a talented individual, though. Yeah. I
wonder if that was Zach on the banjo. I would
say, yeah. Knowing him? Kind of sounded like
him playing a banjo like a guitar. Well, they
have video footage of him. He played acoustic
in Ozzy's Graveside. Oh, wow. Evidently, it was
such a tearjerker that people were just like,
they're like, all right, Zach, that's it, two
songs that we can't take anymore. You're getting
all in our feels, man. Oh, yeah, everybody was
all like, just blah. But he looked great. He
was dressed in all black, and he was carrying
his two acoustics, and he loved the guy. His
life has really taken off since he got sober.
I mean, just everything is working out well for
him. So glad for him. Oh, I am too. I still love
Oz's story about when he first started No Rest
for the Wicked Tour. They're in Japan. And Zach
had no idea about how anything worked. So they're
in this luxury hotel. And they're in Zach's room.
And Zach goes and he grabs a bottle of wine from
the mini bar and pops it open. And Oz is like,
Zach! That thing's like $1 ,000. What? Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Anything from there, that's a lot
of money. And he's like, oh, shit. So he goes,
all right. He goes, no problem. He takes the
cork. He sticks it in his pants, rubs it around
his asshole. He pulls it back out. And he called
up room service or whoever, the main day. Concierge.
The concierge. And he goes, man, he goes, he
goes. Come up here, I need you right now. So
the guy comes up there, he goes, hey, I'm not
going to pay for this, the wine's bad. No, no,
no, no, wine good, wine good. No, the wine's
bad. No, no, no, wine's good. Then he takes a
fork, sticks it in his nose, and the guy goes,
wine bad. Damn. And then another story is, Zach
was in the bathroom, and the rest of them were
over. And so I guess they, like, tore the door
open and started pelting them with, like, I don't
know, like spitballs or something. Wads of wet
toilet paper. Yeah, whatever they could find.
Zach got so infuriated he grabbed his own shit
and started tossing it. You don't see that in
the monkey house in the zoo, man. No, they all
left. They're like, you won, you won. They're
throwing shit, man. Let's get out of here. Yeah,
he won. Yeah, I think I would, he was like. Now
I'm tapping out. Sorry I went there. So, all
right, we get back to this. Will Jake, I'm sorry,
will Jakey Lee ever report again? Yes. Okay.
I think so. I forgot to ask you, how are you
on time? I know you're going to go to the jam.
Well, I'm okay. Okay. I'm going to have to take
a break here. I'm going to drain the horse. Go
ahead and pause it. That's fine. I need a little
break anyhow. We're both back to where we want
to be. Yeah. Then after we get this done, we
go hunt down something to eat, if that's cool.
Yeah. All right. Destroy some chow. Yeah. All
righty. So you were doing bullet points before
I had you go pee. Okay. All right. Jakey Lee,
we both think he's going to record again. I hope
so. I believe he will. I hope so, too. I want
to hear stuff like he used to do. Not Badlands.
Yeah. And not... Red Dragon Cartel or anything
else. Not like George Lynch's rap album. Oh,
God. That was the worst piece of shit ever. If
he ever hears this, he's going to be mad. Someone
brought that up. Yes. Hey, he put it out, man.
Yes, I know. And at the time, he was very proud
of it. I know. He's probably like, oh, man. You
know, right here. Hours of youth. Yeah. He's
kind of like Zach Del Rocha. Why? Why did I do
that? Why did I do that? I had it made with rage.
I was angry and mean. Now I'm just kind of looked
at like a fool. Anyhow. All right. Charlie Watts
got it first. I know Mick Jones got it a long
time ago. I think, wasn't it Mick Jones? The
Stones? Who started it? Brian Jones. Brian Jones,
yeah. Okay, I know he got it first, but now.
Charlie Watts got it first. Who will be the next
Stones to visit Mr. Grimm? Oh. See, Bill Wyman's
gone. Charlie's gone. No, Bill Wyman got it before
Charlie, didn't he? I think he did, yeah. Okay,
I correct that. And then Brian Jones is gone.
Ron Wood was in Stones for a long time. I think
Ron Wood. I'm going to say Ron Wood. I'm going
to say Ron Wood, too. I forgot about him. He
was in there long enough to where I would consider
him as... Yeah. He was in there long enough to
start looking old and wrinkly like Keith Richards.
Yes. See, that's what happens. These celebrities
die and Keith Richards just gains life force.
I know. He takes life from them. Wasn't the Highlanders
the quickening? Yeah. What he is, he's a voodoo.
He's a voodoo like Ms. Goldfinstein. Ms. Goldfinstein.
Energy vampire. Yes. Only he didn't turn Rob
into a capuchin monkey. No. All right. Rob Halford
has an action figure. Oh, my. Why? Vegas can't
sell that much. I guess being a lead singer,
you do some stuff, but after you pose him with
a microphone in his hand and then pose him on
a Harley, what else do you do? I love Rob Halford.
I love his piece, but who would want to do that?
Who thought, who woke up one day and said, I
got it. That's what the world needs. Just like
A1 steak sauce was invented in the heart of the
Civil War. Someone had to woke up and say, man,
my steak is really bland. Oh shit, there goes
another bullet. I wonder what I could do to put
it on here. I could put on here to make the state
more lively. It's like all the businesses that
started in the depths of the Great Depression.
It's like 1932, that was your first year? Damn.
Well, I bet that was a bad one. Really? All right.
So, yeah, we both cannot figure it out. It's
baffling. Okay. I guess, you know, you try it
and see. Yeah, I guess so. If they sell a billion
of them, great. Yeah, if not, then... Hey, the
ones you don't sell... You can repurpose them
as like Grizzly Adams dolls. You're right. Or
Zach Wild dolls. You can just, you know, change
the color in the outfit a little bit. Yeah. Any
big bearded guy. There we go. Oh, that's what
they ought to do. A doll that they could transition
into different dolls. Yes. Generic big bearded
guy doll. Yes. Yeah. And you can have suggestions
like Zach Wild and Rob Halford. Yeah, then you
could buy those as, like, downloadable content.
That's right. I'll buy a new skin for my doll.
Yay! This week it looks like Gavin from Bush.
Which is more scarier than any of them. Gavin
Rossdale. Gavin Rossdale. Apparently Bush is
still out there performing in the category of
who gives a damn anymore. Yeah. It was somewhere
close. Yeah. And that was a big no. I could get
there for five bucks. No. Yeah. His biggest claim
to fame anymore is that he was briefly married
to Gwen Stefani. Yeah, and then she got some
sense and left him. Yeah. All right, next one.
Tony Omi has a solo effort coming out. Will it
be the same sound or something different? And
here's why I say that. Did you read any of the
articles about the solo or the interview with
Eddie Trunk? No. Okay. He's sticking with one
singer on this. It's a true solo project. I'm
thinking he's going to change it up. He's not
going to go with that Sabbath set. No, I wouldn't
think. No, I think that just like Chris Cornell
when he came out with Euphora Morning. euphoria
morning I went to that concert and people were
walking out it was great because they thought
he was going to do Soundgarden stuff and he already
stated he goes no I love that stuff but I want
to do something different this is my own music
and that was the thing with Soundgarden always
is whatever the last album sounded like we're
not going to sound like that yeah and that's
one thing that made him so successful yeah it's
amazing that the fans didn't catch on yeah well
I would say there's probably a way that Tony
Iommi writes that doesn't fit the Black Sabbath,
so he's just been hanging on to those songs.
It's like, this is me, this is how I write, but
this isn't a Black Sabbath song. So I'll just
hang on to this. That's funny. That's exactly
how I envisioned it, too. I have that one song
that I did. You know, I made up when, you know,
this period or whatever. It really didn't fit
that album. Yeah. And, you know, they're in the
vault. He has a vault of riffs. Oh, yeah. Yeah.
I wish him and Brian May would get on it and
release that album. Oh, my gosh. That'd be something
else. Oh, geez. Him and Brian May. A couple of
guitar gods. Yeah. An album and a book of riffs
on how to play it. Yeah. Fuck. You'd think the
guitar manufacturing industry would bankroll
the whole thing. Let's get more people interested
in guitar. Obviously, they don't know what's
going to make money. Anybody like us would run
out. Man, how quick would you run out and buy
them? Yesterday? Yes. Oh, my God. Just to hear
them and then read the music. I'm not sure if
they do the music or the hand progressions. They
would probably do the notation and also tabs.
Not a whole lot of people read music anymore
unless you're not playing rock and roll. Yeah,
that's true. Eddie Van Halen didn't read music.
There's another thing that was always wrong.
I remember when the Beatles were popular. Yeah,
I'm that old. I remember when Beatles came out
with new songs. I don't, but I was around for
the very last part of it. I wish 1966 was my
birthday, but I don't remember it. I remember
getting this story told to me multiple times
by numerous people that the reason the Beatles
were so successful at writing hits was that they
all studied music, and they knew music theory
backwards and forth, and they were all just very
accomplished and went to college and studied
and learned. I can see that. It was always a
lie. That was how they compensated and dealt
with the fact that all of these guys, none of
them could read music. None of them knew anything
about music theory. They did everything by ear.
They didn't write anything down. They just got
together and played. And the music establishment
couldn't handle that they could be that good
without formal training. So they invented formal
training for them. Okay, they got me on that
one. I never questioned it. I believed that until
about a year ago. Wow. But yeah, the Beatles,
everything was by ear. It's like, hey, remember
that hook? Yeah, yeah, what was that? Let's do
that. They just put together stuff by ear. Wow.
And people like my father, who'd gone and spent
six, seven years studying music, that just bugged
the snob out of them, that they could be that
good and didn't go through what he went through.
Well, to him it probably wasn't possible. You
would have to know music to do that. Yeah. Then
find out no. Now, I remember my father's opinion
of rock and roll music was it was all just kind
of ugly and gray and bland. It's like reading
a book and they only use eight different words.
Which couldn't be further from the truth. True,
true. But when the Beatles came on, he couldn't
say that because that was really well -written
music. And that pissed him right the fuck off.
He didn't like hearing the Beatles because it
made him feel bad about his life choices. Yeah.
That's a good point. Yeah. Also, they wrote ditties.
They wrote hits. They wrote songs that stuck
in your head and tapped your toe to it. And at
that point... Not with a white stance. Yeah.
And at that point, vinyl record technology was
limited to where when you'd release a single,
it was actually on a 7 -inch 45 RPM disc. And
that was it. And that was what the single was.
And the technology was such that you could only
get about two and a half to maybe three minutes
on it before you just ran out of room. So that's
why all his arms were short. That makes sense.
Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, later on when
they hit Sgt. Pepper and all that, then they
started getting... Yeah, there have been eight,
nine minute songs because they knew they were
never going to be on a single. So it's like,
what the hell? They had fun with it after that,
didn't they? And they were at the point where
nobody would tell them no. Because they were
making so much money and so popular. It was like,
are you going to tell John and Paul and George
no? I don't think so. Look at Helper Skelter.
Yeah. Where did that come from? supposedly it
was a slide in an amusement park oh really called
the helter skelter you get to the top and you
down to the bottom again and go back to the it's
it was a slide okay and uh it was charlie manson
that lost his mind over that album and obsessed
over that album for his escapades but it was
always an amusement park ride I can't think of
what to say. The music. Yeah. The music was so
different than anything I ever did. It's like,
where did that come from? Was that like a dream,
a nightmare or something? I don't know. I know
it's kind of raucous on the same level as Revolution
was raucous and raw and kind of crunchy. I have
a feeling John Lennon was behind a lot of those
types of songs. Probably. He was so much turmoil
on that guy. That was going on in his head. And
when the Beatles split up and they all started
doing solo stuff, John was writing the edgy,
topical stuff. George was writing weepy, sad
songs about religion. And Paul McCartney was
writing little pop love songs. that would get
radio airplay on top 40 stations. That's kind
of what they disintegrated into. I thought it
was like John Lennon's solo better than Paul
McCartney's by far. McCartney had a ton of hits,
but it's just not my kind of music. I mean, neither
did Harrison, too. I like George Harrison much
better, too. And Ringo Starr, I can't really
say I really followed him. I only remember one
album he put out called Roto Bravura, I think,
and he had that song, Photograph. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah. He also had a song called, I think, Summer
of Seventy, which was when the Beatles broke
up. And it was kind of a weepy, sad song about
the end of life as he knew it. Oh, okay. Yeah,
Reno never did a whole lot solo -wise. Yeah,
and he's a surviving member. Yeah. And his son
Zach got fired by the Who twice. Yeah, although
the Who says he didn't, but he said he did. Man,
I can listen to the Who still, but when Roger
Daltrey's voice comes on, I can't listen to him
because he's such a whiny little bitch. He's
a whiny bitch, I know. His ego is so fragile
that he blew it, he made a mistake, and then
blamed the drummer. And fired him. And then Townsend
smoothed things over and they rehired him. And
then Daltrey got all bent because he was going
to have to admit it and fired the drummer again.
And now the truth comes out anyway that it was
always Daltrey. He blew it. He came in wrong
because he won't practice. He won't rehearse.
And he just decided, well, I'm not going to take
the blame. I'm just going to blame this drummer
because he's not a real member anyway. I saw
him at Spirit Fest. Remember those? Yeah. A long
time ago. He had a line. He was horrible. Oh,
man. Horrible. This is in the 90s. He could barely
sing. I can't believe he held on this long. I
know. It's just for the nostalgia part. Yeah,
that's all it is. Now he looks like a fucking,
I don't know, a beat -up dentist. Yeah, he really
does. Who still drives a Jag? Yeah, that, yeah.
He sits on his balls in that Jag. Yes, he does.
But to be that big a jerk to the drummer who's
been in your band for almost 30 years. Yeah,
it's bullshit. Yeah. He's less than a human being
as far as personality and empathy and decency
goes. Well, Roger Daltrey is kind of like where
I'm at with Vince Neil. Yeah. Back then, it was
like, but he wasn't a big slob. He might have
been a drinker, I don't know. But he was so bad
that it was like, you need to stop. And like
I said, I don't know how he held on for so long.
Kind of like Vince Neil, but Vince Neil's everything.
His appearance, everything. I mean, he's just
nasty. He can sing, he has a band, he has the
crowd sing for him constantly, and nobody wants
to sing it. Yeah. It's like, we paid to hear
you sing, man. The article I read this morning
is that Motley Crue is not ruling out possibly
replacing Vince Neil on future tours and concerts.
They're kind of done with him, I think. I wish
they'd get John Carabi, but I don't think that's
going to happen. No, they'd have to admit that
it was a mistake at that point. Yeah, who would
they get? Mark Turain would have been a good
choice, but he completely changed his look. They
should get a chick singer. Yes, yes. They should
get a girl singer. Somebody with a voice like
Lizzy Hale. Yes. That would save them. That would
be awesome. Not for me, though. I don't care
for them anymore. It's not just the bullshit
music that they're trying to pass off. It's Nicky
and Tommy being complete idiots. Yeah, I think
at this point kind of a reboot and rebranding
or reboot personnel -wise is what it's going
to take because right now they're just the same
old Motley Crue trying to pull us into buying
their stuff again. Nobody is. Nobody likes them.
Everybody I know gets disgust when I say they're
not. And they were so good and so big and they
just, wow, they just screwed it all up for themselves.
Spotify took the liberty of playing Too Fast
for Love, Shout at the Devil, and Theater of
Pain all in concession. And I was like, man,
that fucking music was great. Fitzgill's voice,
that Banshee stuff. Yeah. Heard nothing like
it. I mean, it was really great stuff. And that
must have sounded awesome when you're in the
middle of a big stadium and he's belting that
stuff out. That sounded awesome, I'm sure. Dude
looked like a lady. That's what the song was
written by. But still, they saw him come in and
they go, and Steven Dollar goes, who's that chicken?
Settle down there, Steve. In fact, that made
my list of songs about specific people. Oh, okay.
All right, well, let's go ahead and go on to
that then, I guess. Because I'm getting kind
of hungry, and I really would like to go get
something to eat. All righty. Songs about actual
famous people. All right. You Oughta Know by
Alanis Morissette. Kind of her first big hit.
Yeah, the hockey player and on Full House. Shit.
I always know his name. I can't think of it now.
Well, this one says it's actor Dave Coulier.
Yeah. Yeah, he was on Full House. So he was probably
a hockey player. And he was also a hockey player,
yeah. Paper Doll by John Mayer. While not explicitly
angry, the song is interpreted as a criticism
of celebrity culture and the persona Mayer adopted.
So he's basically talking about himself. Yeah.
Yeah, and there's a lot of songs about John Mayer,
too. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's on here, too. Oh,
okay. Okay, Stupid Girl by Garbage. Remember
that one? Stupid girl. It was writing about Courtney
Love. Yes. That fits. That definitely fits. And
everybody thought it was Lump that was written
about Courtney Love. It was not. Lump was not
written about her. It was Stupid Girl. Yeah.
I forgot who sang Lump, but you remember. It
was called Presidents of the United States of
America. Yeah. Everybody goes, oh, that's about
Courtney Love. And they finally came out and
said, no, it's not. Lump was a fun song. I played
that when I was in the band Weatherhead. We played
that. Nobody really knew who it was, but they
all danced anyway because it was fun. That's
cooler than hell. Yeah. All right. Professional
Widow by Tori Amos. The song is interpreted as
a critique of the music industry and those who
exploit others. And, oh, she had an album written
about her, too. Is that on there? I don't know.
Let me see. Let's see. Oh, Sleeps with Angels
by Neil Young is about Kurt Cobain after his
death. Really? Yep. It's noted for its somber
and reflective tone about the singer's struggles.
Didn't know that. I'm going to have to re -listen
to that. Man on the Moon by R .E .M. Yeah, Andy
Kaufman? Yeah, it was about Andy Kaufman. Let's
see. All the Young Dudes by Bob the Hoople. Courtney
Love and all that stuff. Oh, All the Young Dudes
by Mott the Hoople. Yeah, okay. This song includes
references to other famous artists like David
Bowie and the Rolling Stones and explores themes
of fame and disillusionment. Here's the part
they forgot to mention. It was written by David
Bowie. Yeah, that's right. And given to Mott
the Hoople to record. So David Bowie wrote it
about himself and Mick Jagger. And Mick Jagger.
Yeah, whom he has been long rumored to have had
an affair with. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The video
kind of. Yeah, the dancing in the streets or
whatever it is. But, yeah, Bowie's wife, Imani,
said that she walked in once and found the two
of them in bed naked after they'd already had
sex. She's like, okay, whatever. Oh, we had a
little incident there. If you heard us kind of
clipping, we had a guy come by and throw bug
repellent on us, and he said that podcasts are
of the devil. Yes. And I said, which devil? And
he was confused. Yes. I told him there was 12
devils, and he ran off. And aren't there like
nine planes of hell? Yes. 666 levels of the abyss?
Yes. Yes. I mean, there's all sorts of stuff.
Yeah. Okay. You've got to do your research, folks.
Do your research. Okay, here's the next one.
In an interview with Seventeen Magazine, Courtney
Love reportedly said, Being famous is just like
being in high school, but I'm not interested
in being the cheerleader. I'm not interested
in being Gwen Stefani. She's the cheerleader,
and I'm out in the smoker shed. Gwen Stefani
said that's what inspired her to write Hollaback
Girl. I remember a little bit. Yes. Yep. That's
a great example. And she said, Stefani said,
you know, somebody one time called me a cheerleader
negatively, and I've never been a cheerleader.
So I was like, okay, fuck you. You want me to
cheerleader? Well, hell, then I'll be one, and
I'll rule the world. You just watch me. And she
became enormous, and Courtney Love is a footnote.
Yeah. Courtney Love was a lead job that destroyed
a guy so bad he ended up killing himself. She
had one or two songs that I liked, and I liked
her in the performance about Larry Flint. Yes.
I forget what that was called. She played Athena,
his wife? Yeah. Yeah. The People vs. Larry Flynn.
Woody Harrelson was Larry Flynn. When I go back
to this, you know why she was so great at that
role? She was playing herself. Well, that's true.
Well, she was also decent in the movie Man in
the Moon about Andy Kaufman. Actually, I've got
to be fair. She actually was a pretty good actress.
Celebrity skin. That was a decent album. That
was a decent album. Make Me Over. I think that's
the single. Make Me Over is a great song. I like
Doll Parts. It's pretty raw. And what's the one?
Violence. violets and violets where it says go
go on take everything take everything yeah yeah
yeah well i forget the name of that one those
are the songs i like yeah um celebrity skin the
the lyrics on it are so good though yeah beautiful
garbage a piece of trash yeah you know don't
you feel so used up and the video has like these
glamorous women like hanging from the ceiling
just they're like fucking like meat yeah like
meat She really got the point across. Definitely.
Let's see. As you said, Aerosmith's Dude Looks
Like a Lady had a very specific origin story.
In an interview with Song Facts, co -writer Desmond
Child said that the lead singer, Steven Tyler,
showed him a song he was working on called Cruisin'
for the Ladies. Desmond Child! And Child thought
it was a little boring, it was a boring title,
and he wasn't into it. And then Steven volunteered
sheepishly that he said when he first wrote the
melody, he was singing, Dude Looks Like a Lady.
He got the idea because they'd gone to a bar
and seen a girl at the end of the bar with ginormous
blonde rock hair, and when she turned around,
it turned out to be Vince Neil. And so they started
making fun of him, saying, That dude looks like
a lady. I remember when we had beautiful hair,
me and Davey and everybody. I used to have long,
beautiful hair. And guys would, they... You'd
see them eyeing you? Yep. Maybe you'd turn around
and... Their eyes would start smoking. Well,
to my benefit, I never had much of an ass. So,
you know, if they'd see the hair, they'd look
down at the ass, and, oh, that's got to be a
dude. Oh, you know what? I never did, yeah. I
don't know. I'd have to ask. I don't know who
to ask. Yeah. Hey, how's my ass today? It's there.
Okay, good enough for me. All right. Nirvana's
Heart -Shaped Box has some pretty strange lyrics,
even by Kurt Cobain standards, with lines like,
Meat -eating orchids forgive no one just yet.
Cut myself on angel's hair and baby's breath.
Yeah. Yeah, and wish I could eat your cancer
when you turn black. Yes. That kind of stuff.
I think it's about being a boarder. Well, in
2012, Lana Del Rey performed a cover of the song
in concert, which prompted Courtney Love to want
to explain to Del Rey the song's true meaning.
On Twitter, Love posted, you do know the song
is about my vagina, right? So next time when
you sing it, think about my vagina, will you?
That was the heart -shaped box. Courtney Love's
vagina. Okay. That's the meat -eating orchid.
Okay. Okay, someone... put it with in utero,
and thought it was about abortion. Yeah. Okay.
All right, that makes more sense. Yeah. All right.
Broken hymen of your kindness. Yeah, yeah. I'm
telling you, the lyrics. Throw down your umbilical
noose. So I can climb right back. Yeah. And people
are going, he killed himself? That was his lyrics.
Yeah. All right. Here's another one. Giving the
scathing lyrics of this song, decrying that the
song's mysterious subject is so vain. There's
the hint. They'll think this song is about you.
Rumors have long swirled as the egotistical target
of Carly Simon's clever scorn, You're So Vain.
During the 44 years, Simon declined to say one
word or the other, but many have speculated the
song focused on Kris Kristofferson. which she
said, yeah, that's part of it. David Bowie, which
she says, huh? And Warren Beatty, which she says,
yeah, that's part of it too. Also David Geffen.
And Mick Jagger, who sings backup on the song.
That's Mick Jagger singing backup, so it's about
him too. Warren Beatty, certainly the song was
about him declaring in 1999, let's be honest,
that song is all about me. So I guess he is that
vain. He is that vain. The actor was only partially
right, however, as Carly Simon herself revealed
16 years after Beatty's declaration, I have confirmed
that the second verse is about Warren. But Warren
thinks the whole song is about him. It's not.
So Warren Beatty got the second verse, but the
rest of the song ain't his. And another interesting
footnote is David Geffen was straight at that
point. Isn't that weird? Yeah. He isn't anymore,
but he was straight then. Let's see. All right.
A recent study has shown that musicians' brains
tend to stay sharp and focused all of their life.
I think that makes sense. And they say mostly
the reason is because musicians are constantly
learning and training instead of coasting. Most
people, they retire and it's like, yeah, I don't
want to learn anything. I don't want to do anything
new. They just want to sit in bed. They settle
in their job and they don't need to have any
skills except for their job. Your brain just
kind of deteriorates. It makes sense. Your brain's
not going to put any more effort into it than
it has to. It's wasteful. I've got a great example
right here. Yeah? You know, I constantly write
and record for the podcast. Yeah. Constantly.
I've got probably over a thousand bits now, little
skits and stuff that I do. I love it. It's what
I wanted to do for a long time, and thanks to
you, you helped me get this whole thing underway
and all that, and I'm glad you're still a part
of it. I appreciate that. Yeah, absolutely. But
my mind is much sharper, and I remember stuff
more clearly and better because I'm constantly
writing and reading and learning and doing new
things. Yeah, I find myself listening and analyzing
better. Because it's like, oh, that's interesting.
That's cool. I'm going to write that down. It's
a great brain exercise. It is. It really is.
That's part of the reason I really like going
to the open jams is because it's a challenge
to basically, it's like improv. You don't know
what's going to happen, what you're going to
say, what you're going to do. It's like you get
up there and just go with the flow. Like that
one at R .C.'s when it was open. Yeah. That one
guy come up, and he's playing like Johnny B.
Goode, and the next guy comes up, and he's playing
like Molly Hatchett. Meanwhile, you're over there.
Oh, okay. We're doing this now. All right. Too
bad they don't do them anymore. I enjoyed those
so much. Yeah, there's one in Lee's Summit that's
kind of like that on Thursday nights. I wouldn't
mind seeing that one. I'm going to check that
out one of these days. Yeah, that guy, he's the
one that sounded like Molly Hatchett. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, as soon as I said that to him in the bathroom,
his eyes lit up. He goes, yeah. He goes, man,
I'm crazy about it. Yeah. Oh, we can talk about
the new catchphrase. It's starting to fade already.
Getting cold played. Yes. It's worth mentioning
that that CEO that got exposed, he's now suing
the band. And his claim is, well, their song
shouldn't cost me my whole life and everything
I worked so hard for. Okay, it wasn't their song.
It was you cheating. That's what cost you. And
you're stupid enough to do it in public where
you knew thousands of people had camera phones.
Coldplay had a party after that. Coldplay had
a party because they have one straight male listener
there. That's the guy. Right there. That's the
one straight guy. He's going to autograph their
divorce papers. Allegedly, Elvis. I think that's
a true miracle there. No kidding. Like there's
a straight male there. Hang on. Stop. Who wasn't
dragged there against his will? Yeah, he met
her there. I'm only here because my daughter
wants to be here. By the way, she's not my daughter.
All right, Epstein. In a recent concert, Paul
Simon took a $20 bribe from an audience member
to play the song Kodachrome, which he hadn't
played in decades. Apparently this fan had been
yelling for him to play Kodachrome. It's a fun
song. It's a great song. And finally, this guy
held up a 20 and said, Will you play Kodachrome
for 20 bucks? Paul was just like, Okay, I will.
He's just laughing his ass off. He took the 20
and he played Kodachrome. I wonder if later on
if he signed it and gave it back to him. I hope
he did. I bet you he did. I just thought that
was awesome. Paul Simon's a lot more fun than
I thought he was. Yeah, no, I know. He's kind
of known as like a stick in the mud. Yeah. That's
pretty cool. Well, in honor of our favorite institution,
NPR, being on the skids from the defunding, before
the defunding happened, the accusation was, here's
National Public Radio. They take $500 million
a year of taxpayer money to run their radio station,
and they consider themselves completely fair,
unbiased, and unslanted. And in fact, the CEO,
I forget what her name is, she says quit. She
said, well, I would really like to know. Just
give me some examples of these stories that are
so -called biased and slanted and not fair. So...
A member of Congress took her up on it. Yes.
He said, here you go. Here are some of the stories,
some of the headlines of stories they actually
produced and aired. How racism became a marketing
tool for country music. Not, has it become, or
do you think it has? No, it has, and here's how
it happened. That's supposed to be fair and unbiased
and impartial? No. Monuments and teams have changed
names as America reckons with racism. Birds are
next. It's like, I don't know any racist birds,
do you? No. You know, I tried asking their opinions,
but they were scurrying. They were like, why
not? Here's another headline of another story
NPR produced. Eating less beef is a climate change
solution. Okay. They just decided that all on
their own. Okay. Now, the truth is, carbon gets
bound up in the grass. The cows eat it. It's
still fixed as carbon. They fart out some methane,
sure, but not as much pollution as a lot of other
things make. It's a lot more than they pretend
are. Someone took the facts on that and distorted
them is what happened, but go ahead. And then
you slaughter the cow and eat it. The carbon
is still fixed in us, and it remains fixed, fixed,
fixed, fixed. If you grow the grass and let it
rot... All that carbon gets back in the air.
Cows are helping. And when the cows crap on the
ground, that helps fix carbon deep into the soil
where it's not going to get thrown back into
the atmosphere. Cows are reducing the carbon
footprint, but they've been shown to be the enemy
because the vegan people hate it to be so. Oh,
yeah. Cows need carbon credits. Absolutely. I'm
going to go on a big tinge about that. Here's
the next one. How the Taliban adds to Afghanistan
woes when it comes to climate change disaster.
Now, how many Afghanis do you think are waking
up going, you know, that Taliban really worries
me when it comes to climate change disaster.
I've got to have a talk with them. They spent
half a billion dollars producing shows like this.
Well, the thing is, they get an inordinate amount
of money by far for no ratings. I mean, they
get $10 million contracts with a one share at
that in most cases. It's ridiculous. Okay, and
then two days before Joe Biden dropped out of
the race due to fears about his mental status,
NPR put out a big story claiming President Biden's
presidential debate performance. didn't do anything
to change the election it had no it made no difference
whatsoever two days later the dude drops out
of the race okay i mean the telling sign was
him having they had to turn him around basically
yeah he got so confused he started walking kind
of doing a circle like people with alzheimer's
do and they were backstage going joe joe and
you could see him going no no turn face them
And I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no. No, that guy
is not cognizant. I'll go ahead. Let's see. NPR
also reported there was no evidence that biological
men have an unfair advantage over biological
women in sports. So apparently your average woman
could at least equal the performance of your
average man as, say, an inside linebacker. Yeah,
okay. Now, you're talking about tennis? They're
just saying in sports, in general. Then why do
women have separate leagues? If we're exactly
equally as capable, why do they have separate
leagues? Then he said he concluded NPR referred
to rural Americans as Christian nationalists,
basically painting them as Nazis, and heaped
praise on the Biden administration official Rachel
Levine. Newsbusters managing editor Curtis Howe
told Fox Digital her comments of the CEO of NPR
are despicable and rancorous and rise to the
level of a pants -on -fire lie. NPR failed to
cover the Hunter Biden laptop scam. Oh, yeah.
They wouldn't touch it. No, I got it. And remember...
When Biden's presidency started, he said Hunter
Biden's laptop is just a figment of Russian propaganda.
Then when Biden's term in office ended, he was
pardoning Hunter for what was on the laptop.
Yeah, but it was for anything that could come
up ever. Yeah. But it was AutoPen, so we'll see
what happens. Yeah, that's true. AutoPen's not
really legal. It doesn't count. It doesn't count.
There are going to be some people, like, really
sweating now. If AutoPen counts, then I can make
a rubber stamp and that counts, too. Yes. I mean,
how about Fauci for the gain of function? How
about he go to prison? Yeah. And all the people
who sit on the cover. Anyhow, go ahead. Let's
see. Now, since then, the defunding has taken
place. And as soon as it was announced, the CEO
resigned immediately. I know. Because she knows
the gravy train is over and she can no longer
steal. Yeah. And within a few days, the Corporation
for Public Broadcasting, which oversees the radio
and the TV, they're dismantling it. Why? Because
there's a lot of incriminating evidence there
and they're wiping it all clean. There was so
many kickbacks, bribes and all that allegedly.
It was the liberals stealing. half a billion
dollars from us every year to use on liberal
propaganda. I am so glad it's gone. I am too.
I am so thankful. I am too. And if you think
we're taking one side, we've got a lot of stuff
we can say about the other side too. I mean,
I've been listening to NPR basically since the
early 80s because it was always on at work. And
they are vastly, vastly different today than
they used to be. No, I know. Back then they were
pretty fair and pretty honest. And they had some
bias. They would have their liberal guy, Daniel
Shore, do his daily or weekly spiel and they'd
have no rebuttal from the other side. But how
they are now is just pathetic. Oh, it's not real
news reporting. Which always pissed me off. Well,
here's two things that I heard about two years
ago on NPR. It was a woman interviewer and a
woman guest. And the guest had just finished
college. And the interviewer was asking about
things in college. And the college graduate was
saying one of the things on the exit interview
was... who is the person who has had the most
profound effect on your life while you've been
in college? And her response was, I was insulted
by that because that's a question for white people,
not people of color. We are the people who influence
their real life in a profound way. We don't get
influenced. We are the influence, and it's white
people who need to be answering this question.
And then the host was like, yeah, I know. Just
agreeing with everything. And then she also brought
up that all of the diversity programs in college
were there to educate the racist white people
only. Yeah. And nobody else needed diversity
except all these poor racist white people. And
no white person can be racist. Yeah. And again,
the host was like, oh, yes, yes, I know. And
I thought, well, what about all the brown -on
-black crime that's such a problem? What about
all the brown -on -black riots in prison? Yeah.
You're telling me those aren't race -related
and that people of color can't be racist? What
bullshit is this? Yeah. Examples like that, I'm
so glad that they are getting what they deserve.
Well, like I've always said, I try to illustrate
this point. The reason I call myself seasonal
other is because during the summer, I look like
other if I got a good tan. Yeah. During the winter,
I look like Joe White guy down the road. Yeah.
So what am I? Who cares? Why classify? That's
what I'm saying. Yeah. That classification is
stupid. It's like when I married Cindy, I got
three bonus sons. You know, her three from her
first marriage. And her ex -husband is Lebanese.
So her kids look... Half Lebanese, because they
are. Yeah, you can kind of tell. I was looking
at Jesse, and then I remembered Val said, I never
met the guy, that he's Lebanese. I'm like, I
see it now. And now when they're clean -shaven,
you kind of don't think about it. They could
definitely pass as white, if you were thinking
that way. But when they grow their beards out,
they will get stopped and frisked at the airport,
because they look like Middle Eastern. So they
keep their beards shaved off. So they don't get
hassled. I don't blame them. Yeah, so there they
are living in both worlds. Oh, I've got an airport
story for you. When we went on our cruise a couple
months ago, I was like, all right, I'm getting
tired of taking off my fucking belt. I had this
plastic belt. I'm like, yeah, there we go. That'll
work. I went through security, and the guy goes,
stop. And I go, man, I even wore a plastic belt.
He goes, we don't care if it's metal. It's an
item that shouldn't be there. I got frisked.
Jeez. I know. I'm like, I just fucked up in reverse.
There I was all smug going, heh, heh, heh. But
you don't have to take your shoes off anymore.
I know, that's great. So you can bring in non
-metallic. plane hijacking materials in your
shoes and they're not even going to check. That's
great. Isn't it? Yeah. What about all those people
who pay for the fast pass or easy pass? They
pay in advance so they don't have to go through
the security line. They can just breeze onto
the airplane like they're nobody. I know, and
they can't be doing all the checking on them.
They can have anything on them. Well, it's an
example. If you pay enough money, you get to
skip the rules and put everyone else in danger
because you had enough money to skip the rules.
The Global Entry is an interview that has to
be done in person, but it only lasts about five
minutes. We met a guy on the plane actually the
same trip coming back that told us that. He traveled
all the time, and we're talking about how easy
the airport was down in... Where did we leave
out of? Oh, we left out of Fort Lauderdale. Oh,
yeah. I remember that one, too. Yeah. No, we
left out of Miami. And the first time we left
out of Miami, it was easy. Oh, no, it was harder
than hell. This time it was easy. We're talking
about how easy it was. He goes, I guess I'm not
worried about it. I got global entry. And you
have to pay a fee, and it's good for like five
years. He said all it was was a five -minute
interview at the airport. So your son's this
big now. So you live here, yeah. And he said,
that's all. So he doesn't have to get checked
at all? Yep. And I think that the idea behind
that, one, they want your money. Two, they're
not trying to prevent anything. They just want
a paper trail. If something happens, they can
say, oh, well, now we've got all this information.
Look how smart we are. We know all about it.
Isn't that great? We're going to go down in flames,
but they've got a paper trail. Yeah, but at least
they know the name now. They know it now. Yeah,
they're doing nothing for prevention or keeping
anybody safe. They just want the money. It's
like when COVID hit and they shut down schools
and this and that. Oh, but the fast food restaurants
could stay open. I know. And the casinos could
too. The casinos, they didn't touch, and I think
we all know why. Yeah, and then when they introduced
the smoking ban. Oh, you can't smoke in public.
Oh, except the casinos. Yeah, we don't care about
your lungs there. And it was very obviously because
of a payoff, but nothing is ever done about it.
They completely got away with it. Why wouldn't
they keep doing it? I know I keep doing stuff
if I get away with it. Yeah, me too. The influence
on casinos are still the same as it used to be.
Yeah. So, yeah, they're going to get some payoffs
or threats or whatever, but they're going to
let you smoke when you go there. Yeah. Well,
I'm trying to see if I have anything else. I
think I'm kind of tapped out on my stuff. Yeah,
me too. I think we've covered a lot of area.
This one's almost up to two hours now. Oh, good.
All righty. Well, we're going to piss some people
off with more stuff. They deserve it. Yes, they
do. It was great being back after a hiatus, a
little bit of time off. Yeah, I kind of mentioned
it on the other podcast. You had some stuff going
on, but you'd be back. Yeah. I'm back. Yeah,
there you go. And I'm about to turn 64. Oh, hell
yeah. Very close to turning 64, so I'm going
to sing that song. When I'm 64. Right here on
this podcast. I should do that. That's live if
you're right here. Yeah. Hey, maybe I can learn
the chords too and I can play it. It doesn't
sound like it's that complicated. Oh, I wouldn't
think so. Not if Ringo's singing it. It's okay.
I'm a drummer. I can insult drummers. Yeah, it's
like the old joke. Who's a guy that hangs around
a bunch of musicians? Drummer. What does a stripper
do with their asshole every night before work?
What? Drops them off at band practice. I like
that one a lot. I like that one a lot. Because
that could be anybody. Yes. And I know a lot
of assholes. What do you call a drummer without
a girlfriend? Homeless. I love that one. And
this is coming from a drummer, so it's completely
legit. Yes. It's like a black person using the
N -word. Yep. You know, something that occurred
to me, remember when it was a debate, should
anybody allow to use the N -word? Who should
be allowed? Under what circumstances? Yeah. Well,
my brother came out with one of his pearls of
wisdom. He just decided, all on his own, that
the people who didn't want anyone to be able
to use the N -word anymore are racist white people
who are mad that they don't get to use it themselves.
And that was the only reason he could come up
in this bizarre brain of his why anybody would
want the N -word banned. Because they were racist
white people who were just mad that they couldn't
say it. I don't want it banned because of free
speech, but I don't like people that use it,
I can tell you that. Because a lot of good friends
of mine, it really demeans them. So I guess it
comes down to character, and some people don't
have any. Yeah, I think what they did was the
smart thing. shelve the whole issue and let it
work itself out. And it's doing that now, is
the people who still use the N -word or slang
versions of it are not seen as edgy and cool
anymore. They're like, oh, you're one of those.
You're one of those people who still uses that
word. Okay. Well, it's kind of like... like a
glam rock or something like that how it used
to be like if you were in it you probably weren't
that talented yeah so if you use an m word you're
gimmick yeah yeah yep all right well should we
go ahead and go get something to eat i guess
i'd say so all righty hey everybody thank you
for listening for real man it's really great
serving the audience like you guys go fuck yourself