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Alright, there we go. We are the music creeps.

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We are the music creeps. You know, that goes

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on until you make me laugh. Every time. I'm like,

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I'm going to get all the way through it this

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time. Nope. That will be a special episode when

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we get all the way through that and maintain

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our composure. Mark finally makes it through

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one. That will be a gold star episode. And you

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know, I got it recorded. I could insert it at

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any time. This is much better. It's more fun.

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It is. You should see the looks we get when we

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do this out here at the city market. Good thing

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I don't care what people think. Yeah, me too.

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I got over that a long time ago. It shows. All

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right, music creeps on board again. Okay. I sent

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you a suggestion, and we both liked it enough

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to do this. How about some of the best rhythm

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sections? We never cover the bass and the drums.

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And this is so near and dear to my heart because

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I've been a drummer my entire life, always listening

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to the bass player. This is the backbone of the

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song. This is the skeleton of the song. This

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is the song structure. If this is no good, the

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song is no good. Not a lot. The black helicopters

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are approaching. Hang on a second. Yeah, they

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don't like us talking about rhythm sections.

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They told us no, but we defied them. Oh, they're

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spraying some chemical on us now. Oh, yeah. You're

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in the chemtrails. Yeah, yeah. It's harmless,

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though. You can eat it. I mean, yeah. Look at

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Agent Orange. Yeah, DDT. Yeah, people eat that

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shit all the time. Alright. Alright, so rhythm

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sections. Yeah, you could include the keyboard

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player in the rhythm section if you really wanted

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to. You definitely could. Yeah, so we can throw

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those in there if we'd like. Yeah, why not? That's

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considered. And really, you know, the drums are

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the rhythm, the heartbeat, and the bass is basically

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the musical bridge between the rhythm and the

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melody. The melody, yeah. So, I mean, the kick

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drum and the bass guitar have got to be... married

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to each other, basically, for the most part.

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Yeah, and they really make the song, unless you

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do some, well, we can get into this. There's

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bassists that go off script. Yes, and there are

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drummers that go off script. Yes, and it doesn't

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matter because they did it in a format to where

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it went with the song. It did not take away from

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the song and actually add it to it. So we'll

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get into that. For the most part, the ones I

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came up with weren't really virtuosos at their

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instrument, but the songs were just... much better

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because they were there playing yeah i agree

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and i couldn't imagine any and the other thing

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i did was i couldn't imagine anyone else doing

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it except them yeah i'm gonna put in some uh

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some honorable mentions because we were you told

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me top 10 oh so i gave my top 10 oh shit did

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i say top 10 okay i guess i got more than that

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so go ahead well i can add some more add some

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more i'm sorry i didn't realize i said that um

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all right so first up I have Journey. Ross Valerie

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on bass back when Ainsley Dunbar was the drummer.

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Oh, yeah. Back in the 70s. Yeah, yeah. That was

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a monster rhythm section. Wheel in the Sky. Yes.

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Walks Like a Lady. Yeah. Yeah. That was a hell

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of a rhythm section. They switched to Steve Smith

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afterwards, and he's great too, but... He just

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didn't have the rock and roll heartbeat that

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Ainsley Dunbar has. And the music changed, too.

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It did. It really did. It changed considerably.

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It became more radio -friendly, more polished

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hits. Yeah. Ainsley joined the band when it was

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a jam band, because that's what he wanted to

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do. It was like, let's jam out for 10, 20 minutes

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on a song and see what we get. But then they

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started writing radio hits three to five minutes

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long, and he was like, meh, I'm out. And it was

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Robert Fleischman at first, wasn't it? Yeah.

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Yeah, and then... Steve Perry. Steve Perry. And

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then a plethora of other whatevers. Yeah, Arnel

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Pineda. Yeah, and he's retiring. He's retiring,

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yeah. Anyway, so... That's a good one. I've always

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loved The Journeys. And if you want to put Greg

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Raleigh on Keys in there, he left also about

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the same time as Ainsley because it wasn't a

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jam band anymore, and he's replaced by Jonathan

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Cain from The Babies. Yeah. I would. I would.

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I'd put Greg Rawley in that. He was so much to

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their rhythm and their sound, I would say yes.

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Yeah. I've got, my first one, is Ginger Baker

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and Jack Bruce. Oh, yeah. The stuff that Baker

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did and Bruce did in tandem but against, you

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know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. They didn't quite

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make the cut for my top ten, but yeah. They're

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good. They're awesome. Well, I always appreciated

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their angle. They never came at it from the song

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point of view. They came at it from their point

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of view of what they should do to make another

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song inside a song. Is the way I'd kind of put

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it. Yeah, I mean, take a song like the White

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Room. Yeah. There's so many times when the drummer

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does a fill. which usually ends in the cymbal

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crash. But he doesn't. He just goes right back

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to the high half. There's no payoff. Here's the

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fill. And then just right back into the rhythm.

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And it's like, oh, where is the payoff? And he

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just does it over and over. And I find myself

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listening specifically to that part of the song.

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It's like, what made him choose to just not do

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that? And then when he finally did hit the crash,

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it was like, oh, thank you. There it is. Thank

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you. That's decent songwriting. Yeah, it is.

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Yeah, I really appreciated their style. Yeah.

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I mean, they're not the best, of course, but

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their style was unique. Yeah. All right, next

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one. And he's probably the premier red -haired

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drummer. Yeah, that's true. Another one I would

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say put up there with him is Myron Grombacher,

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who played for and probably still plays for Pat

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Benatar. So you think back of Pat Minotaur songs.

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Yeah. He's an awesome drummer. I've seen him

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live. Guy's a monster. He really is. He's way

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better than people generally give him credit

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for. Think about like Hit Me With Your Best Shot

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and songs like that. Yeah. There are some songs

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that they used a drum machine on, but it was

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the 80s. Yeah, you used drum machines on everything.

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Red -haired drummers, I'd put Myron up there

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along with Ginger. Yeah, I would too. I would

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too. All right, my next one is, you probably

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have this, Deep Purple. Yes, I got him on there

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too. I chose the version with Roger Glover on

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bass, Ian Pace on drums. But you could easily

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go Glenn Hughes and Ian Pace. Roger Glover, to

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me, I liked his bass style a little bit better.

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It seems to me like Glenn Hughes is more of a

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heartbeat, you know. But either one of them had

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their ups and downs. I mean, they were more famous

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with the Mach 2 lineup, and that would be with

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Glover and Pace. So, yeah, I agree with that

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100%. If you want to see what kind of drummer

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Ian Pace is, check out some of his work he's

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done outside of Deep Purple. He'll never get

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the credit he deserves. He plays what the Deep

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Purple song needs without showing off. But when

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he does stuff outside of Purple, he doesn't show

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off. And you realize, damn, this guy's a monster.

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We saw him a few years back in St. Louis. Yeah,

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that was good. And that shows what at least...

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An hour and 20, if not longer. If not a little

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bit longer. And Ian Pace never stopped. Not once.

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And he was close to 70. Yeah. And he is still

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just banging it like always. Monster drummer.

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Yeah, monster drummer. And he is almost like

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a lead. His drumming is almost like a lead. True.

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It's fully a fifth instrument in the band. Yeah,

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yeah. It really is. Yeah. And he'll never get

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the credit he deserves because you always hear

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Richie Blackmore. john lord yeah you know you

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had so many good great players in that band they

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kind of got lost in the shuffle yeah i mean uh

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was ian gillan and then david coverdale and glenn

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hughes yeah i mean you got such prolific people

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everywhere else it's kind of like oh yeah and

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there's ian pace too yeah but he really yeah

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he's he's great he's really good um i like that

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one okay my next one is i think probably you

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might have this too Golf clap for the siren.

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In light of yesterday's weather, the siren's

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probably like going, am I getting overtime? Yeah.

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Yeah, it's like we got a full performance from

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those sirens yesterday for real. Yeah, yeah.

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So testing them today seems a little excessive.

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That is the loudest, that is the longest I've

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ever heard the sirens consecutively. That seemed

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like about three minutes. Oh, yeah. If not longer.

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Yeah. Yeah, it just kept going, and then it'd

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go off, and then they'd issue another one. And

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they'd fire them back up again. They'd fire them

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back up again. In case you forgot. Hey, by the

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way, another one formed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you

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got it. It's close. Somebody flushed the toilet

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and noticed that swirly pattern in the water,

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and they panicked. Yeah, they hit the button.

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Yeah. All right. I think your turn for a rhythm

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section. All right. Went John Paul Jones and

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John Bonham. Oh, yes. I'll have to cross those

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off because I got those two. Well, no, no, no.

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You can do yours too. I mean, the way I look

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at it is you're telling your point of view. Yeah,

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I'll still talk about it. Yeah, yeah. So I think

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it's pretty obvious. John Bonham with his straightforward

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style and not really no frills, hard hitting,

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just a great rhythm. I mean, he had timing, impeccable

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timing, just perfect. He was well known for the

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things he would leave out. That would make the

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rhythm so much better. Yeah. Nothing fancy, but

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just good. And he was so smooth and fluid. With

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a single kick, he did stuff that double kick

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players find challenging. Yeah. Yeah, that's

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a good point. That's a good way of putting it.

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That's just amazing. And John Paul Jones is basically

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a guitarist. Yeah. You know, I know a bass is

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a guitar, but he's basically a rhythm guitarist.

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And he's a keyboard player. He wrote most of

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the songs on the keys. He wrote a lot of songs

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on the keys, and songs that I love. After Jimmy

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Page kind of gave up the songwriting, John Paul

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Jones said, all done. He was at Aleister Crowley's

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old house doing smack. Didn't have enough time

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to write a song. Well, at least he was spending

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his time with intellectual pursuits. He's 82,

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done smack. Basically Satan worshiper, I guess,

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maybe, or something like that. Or just thought

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it was cool. Probably just thought it was cool.

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Heroin addict is still alive. Anyhow, 82. Mick

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Jagger, Keith Richards. Anyhow. Okay, for obvious

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reasons there. I mean, John Paul Jones is so

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good, and he works so well with the simplicity

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but heavy hitting of John Bonham. Yeah. I mean,

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a good one would be Cashmere. Think of that song.

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Think of the beat on that song. It's like a heartbeat.

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Yes. And then the bass comes in behind it and

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reassures you of what that is. It's perfect.

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It's such a weird rhythm anyhow. Such a weird

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song, but great song. Yeah, yeah. It's fun watching

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reaction videos to people who've never heard

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that song before. Yeah. And watch their eyes

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get real big. It's like, I've never even heard

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music like this before. Well, welcome to Led

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Zeppelin. Well, I mean, it was interesting because

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Cashmere has such a weird rhythm. It's kind of

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like a Middle Eastern rhythm. Yeah. And so does

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another guy that did that very well was Richie

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Blackmore. Yeah. He did that on a lot of Rainbow

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songs, and he also did that on Perfect Strangers.

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The bridge in there. And it's just something

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that the real creative best guitarists can do.

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The ones that are their own that really wasn't

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looking at anybody else. They're just doing their

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thing. And very influential. I'm sitting here

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in my head thinking about how they did the cashmere.

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They did the da -da -da, and then they did it

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backwards. Da -da -da, da -da -da. It's on the

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backward part of the next beat. Yeah, that's

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right. And then they flipped it forward, then

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backward, then forward. At least that's how it

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seems in my mind. They flip it each time they

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play it. And I don't know if they planned it

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like that, or when they played it, they go, this

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is the way it should be played. Who knows? Genius

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song. Yeah, amazing. All right, my next is Fog

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Hat. The rhythm section of Nick Jameson on bass

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and Roger Earle on drums. Oh, that's a good one.

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Yeah. Wow. Now think of the Fool for the City

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album. You had Fool for the City and Slow Ride,

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and there were a couple other hits on there.

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But listen to the bass playing on Slow Ride.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that'll make you just drool.

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It's like, how can someone have that much talent?

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And I've seen Foghat live twice, I think. The

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first time it was all the original guys, and

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the second time it was like... Lonesome Dave.

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Lonesome Dave, Rod the Bottle. Yeah. But I think

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the second time I saw him, the drummer was the

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only original member left. And the dude was like

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100 years old and still just... I mean, he plays

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like 300 days a year and just loves it. The guy's

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a machine. So he's pretty amazing. They were

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playing in Kearney, Missouri a couple years ago

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at some little amphitheater they had there. It

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almost went just, it didn't have any original

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members, but I was just like, why not? And they

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started in the late 60s. That's how long they've

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been. It's crazy they've been around so long.

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They have a really cool logo. They do. I love

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their logo. Yeah. The original logo was a guy

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with this weird hat on his head, and it was a

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fog hat because it was the hat he wore when he

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smoked weed. It created a fog of weed smoke.

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And then they improvised it as they went on,

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and then it became kind of almost like sketch

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art. Yeah, it kind of looks like neon tubing.

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Yeah, neon tubing. The way it bends and floats.

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Yeah, it's a cool logo. The whole cycle of their

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emblems. Yeah, it's like at a certain point they

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decided, I guess we should take this a little

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more seriously and get that weed hat off of our

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helmet covers. Yeah, and just do this. But I

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love the weed hat. I do too. That was cool. All

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right, the next one I have is Geezer Butler and

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Bill Ward. Absolutely. Those two. There was a

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time, I'm sorry to admit, when I thought that

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Bill Ward was a pretty crappy drummer. I did

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too. Because I just really didn't heard him much.

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I really hadn't heard much from him. And I listened

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to more of what he did, and I saw videos of him

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playing live. I was like, whoa, this guy's awesome.

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He's pretty amazing. Yeah. Yeah. He had to keep

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up with Geezer Butler. Geezer Butler's insane.

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Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Especially with the Ozzy stuff.

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Yeah. The Dio stuff is more straightforward because

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of the songs, Heaven and Hell and stuff like

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that. But the stuff he did with Ozzy, the psychedelic

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sounding stuff, he just goes off on his own tangent.

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Yeah, he's a very hard -working man, and he plays

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a lot of notes. Yeah, he does. I mean, he's another

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one that plays guitar on bass. Kind of like Lemmy.

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Yeah, yeah. He's one of those one -name guys,

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Lemmy. Lemmy, and everyone's watching Lemmy and

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nobody else, not Campbell. Is it Phil Campbell

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as guitarist? That sounds right. Yeah, yeah,

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everyone's watching Lemmy. And Phil Campbell

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was fine. He was great. I loved him. But it was

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like, nah, there's Lemmy. We're watching him.

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Look at the thing on his face, man. Oh, my God.

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Is that thing going to grow? The thing is, he

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admitted it. He goes, yeah. He was talking about

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glam bands and stuff like that. He goes, God

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bless him. He goes, I wish I could do that, but

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I'm too fucking ugly. No kidding. He was cool

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because he loved all the glam bands. He didn't

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care. All the other ones were going, oh, they're

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pussies. He was like, let them do what they want.

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He goes, man, they're making their money. I'll

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do mine, you know. He was the kind of guy, he

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literally just wanted to play and then go back

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home to his apartment. Drink Jack. Yeah, walk

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down to the pub down the street and drink with

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his friends. He did that his whole life. He did?

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He was just a regular working class kind of guy.

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Yeah, and another interesting thing about him

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is he just had his last bullet fired off. Oh,

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okay. And I think it was Zach Wild that did it.

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He had his ashes put in bullets, and his closest

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friends all got a bullet, and they were instructed

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to fire it off sometime. That's cool. But what

00:17:13.990 --> 00:17:16.990
we knew about him, he had a rare form of very

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aggressive cancer, and he found out about like

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three days before he died. Oh, gosh. So it was

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my understanding that he had a big party. I would,

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yeah. Hey, my fellow heavy breeders, this is

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Dash Riptide, your music news. Zach Sabbath,

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the Black Sabbath tribute band guitarist and

00:17:37.920 --> 00:17:40.259
vocalist Zach Wild introduced us to, will have

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a fall North American tour. Some regional dates

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include December 7th in Uptis, Tennessee, December

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9th, Houston, Texas, December 10th, Fort Worth,

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Texas, December 11th, Tulsa, Oklahoma, and December

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12th, Wichita, Kansas. Last September, Zach Sabbath

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announced the release of Greatest Riffs, a digital

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collection celebrating iconic music and Black

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Sabbath under legendary guitarist Tony Aomi.

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Featuring a hand -picked selection of tracks,

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This release pays tribute to the band that defined

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heavy metal for generations. Happy birthday to

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Michelle Phillips of Mamas and Papas on June

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4th. Earlier, she has Mark Saint from her band

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name, John Phillips. This is Gash Rooktine, and

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that was your music news. If it's too loud, you

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probably have ear damage, just like me. I'm leaving

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this place like I started it. What kind of blowout

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can we put together in a day or two? I would

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love to see footage of that, but I bet you there's

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none. It was destroyed. Or it just melted the

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film. It melted the film. It burst into flames.

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Let's see. Next up I have Rush. Oh, I can't believe

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I... Or do I have that? I sure do. I sure do.

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So Geddy Lee on bass, and what's his name on

00:19:00.319 --> 00:19:05.299
the drums? Neil. I think it's Pert, but a lot

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of people call it Peart and Peart or something

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like that. Yeah, he started out, and everyone

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pronounced it Pert, and then at a certain point

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in his career, he said... I prefer you pronounce

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it Peart, because that's the way it's supposed

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to be. Yeah, that was Peart. And then after a

00:19:18.329 --> 00:19:20.089
few more years, he said, you know what, it really

00:19:20.089 --> 00:19:22.170
doesn't matter. Call me Peart. Yeah, whatever

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you want to do, I don't care. Yeah, he was kind

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of a conflicted guy anyway. Yeah. He was a very

00:19:28.569 --> 00:19:31.609
interesting character. Yeah. Went through hell.

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Yes. It was like in the span of one year, his

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wife died and his daughter died. Geez. Very tragic.

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And then he developed brain cancer like so many

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other drummers do. Yeah. For no apparent reason.

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I mean, you better get myself checked for brain

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cancer. Yeah, yes. I don't think I've ever had

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my head scanned. Is it the jarring? I don't know.

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Who knows? Yeah, anyhow. We might just be born

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with damaged brains. That's what cancer looks

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on to. It looks for a damaged area. Something

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that's wrong or disrupted. And those are people

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who want to go hit something. Yeah. I'm going

00:20:04.980 --> 00:20:07.680
to pick up this stick. and hit this thing, but

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very musically. Yeah, yeah. You know that really

00:20:10.660 --> 00:20:14.160
cool thing at guitar? No, no, no, no. Give me

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something I can hit, man. I respect drummers.

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A good drummer makes a song, always. I think

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so. Anyhow, I can't agree with that more because

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it's on mine, too. My next one would be Gieser

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Butler and Veniapacy. Oh. They were unique on

00:20:35.779 --> 00:20:40.900
their heaviness. Yeah, yeah. Gieser changed his

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style completely with Vinnie Appesee and Ronnie

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James Deer. Yeah, boy, I'm sitting here listening

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in my head. Yeah, you're right. Yeah. It wasn't

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that almost jazzy stuff that they did before.

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I mean, the psychedelic weird stuff. This was

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like... Yeah. You know. Very more concise, controlled.

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It had more of a structure. Yeah, and the rhythm

00:21:05.619 --> 00:21:08.420
was so tight. I mean, I don't know how they could

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have made it any tighter. Yeah, there's certain

00:21:11.160 --> 00:21:13.460
songs that are driving kind of songs, and you

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need that really tight, solid rhythm to just

00:21:16.119 --> 00:21:19.039
keep the momentum going and keep you charging

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ahead. Almost hypnotic. Yeah. Love it. Yeah,

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to me, that brings them on this list. Yeah, definitely.

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Next up, I have Dream Theater. Oh, yeah. John

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Myung on bass and Mike Portnoy back on drums.

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I did not get him. Okay, but yeah, I agree with

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that. Mike Mangini filled in when Portnoy left,

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but Portnoy's back. Portnoy was much... I mean,

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Mangini is good. Very good, yeah. But Portnoy

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gave it that extra... Yes. Yeah. There's a video

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out for their new song called Night Terror. Yeah.

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I would recommend watching that video. I would

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too, yes. That showcases everybody pretty well.

00:22:03.089 --> 00:22:06.190
Dream Theater is a musician's band. Yeah. You

00:22:06.190 --> 00:22:08.150
know, they may not get a hell of a lot of radio

00:22:08.150 --> 00:22:11.730
play or even recognition, but any musician that's

00:22:11.730 --> 00:22:14.829
into rock, even if it's classic rock or new rock

00:22:14.829 --> 00:22:17.569
or middle rock, they all mention Dream Theater.

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They're like, oh, man, they have talented bands.

00:22:19.309 --> 00:22:20.730
They go, oh, yeah, what about Dream Theater?

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And everyone's like, oh, gosh, yeah. And the

00:22:22.750 --> 00:22:25.710
members of Dream Theater give that same kind

00:22:25.710 --> 00:22:28.660
of credit to Frank Zappa. Yes, yeah, which I

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appreciate because they're right. Mike Portnoy,

00:22:31.859 --> 00:22:35.299
in the acknowledgments on one album, he said,

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I'd like to thank Frank Zappa from whom we all

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sprang. And it's cool, too, because the music

00:22:44.259 --> 00:22:46.900
obviously is completely different. The lyrics

00:22:46.900 --> 00:22:50.339
are completely different. The attitude is vastly

00:22:50.339 --> 00:22:53.259
different. Vastly different. Zappa wanted to

00:22:53.259 --> 00:22:55.779
piss you off. Yeah, yeah, Zappa was trying to

00:22:55.779 --> 00:22:58.240
piss you off and make you think at the same time.

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Where Dream Theater is just like talent. Telling

00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.519
stories. Yeah, telling stories, yeah. But I did,

00:23:04.619 --> 00:23:06.740
I was like you, I appreciated that they said

00:23:06.740 --> 00:23:09.799
that, that he said that. It's like, yeah. I was

00:23:09.799 --> 00:23:12.759
just thinking, after their second album. Dream

00:23:12.759 --> 00:23:16.420
Theater's keyboard player quit, and Jordan Rudess

00:23:16.420 --> 00:23:19.059
came on in his place. Yeah. And I don't even

00:23:19.059 --> 00:23:21.079
remember the name of the original keyboard player.

00:23:21.200 --> 00:23:23.539
He was good. I mean, he was at Berklee School

00:23:23.539 --> 00:23:25.980
of Music just along with the rest of them, but

00:23:25.980 --> 00:23:28.400
he thought grunge was a much cooler way to go.

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And seriously, grunge and keyboards, they just

00:23:31.319 --> 00:23:34.940
weren't there. No, no, no. But the guy just fell

00:23:34.940 --> 00:23:36.920
off the face of the earth. I've never heard a

00:23:36.920 --> 00:23:39.420
single word about him since. I'm trying to think

00:23:39.420 --> 00:23:43.240
of a grunge song that has keyboards. Not really

00:23:43.240 --> 00:23:44.640
any of them. I don't think any of them. Unless

00:23:44.640 --> 00:23:46.759
you count some of those Radiohead songs, but

00:23:46.759 --> 00:23:48.660
they weren't really grunge. Yeah, those were

00:23:48.660 --> 00:23:50.980
alternative. Yeah, but grunge was all about just

00:23:50.980 --> 00:23:54.200
heavily distorted or fuzz box guitars. Yeah,

00:23:54.819 --> 00:23:58.319
yeah. Yeah, I didn't get it. Yeah, I don't either.

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Okay, all right. Next one I have is Roger Glover,

00:24:03.819 --> 00:24:05.579
Ian Pace, and I'm going to go ahead and include

00:24:05.579 --> 00:24:08.740
these into Glenn Hughes and Ian Pace. Yeah. I

00:24:08.740 --> 00:24:12.160
like both of them, and it's kind of like... Vinnie

00:24:12.160 --> 00:24:15.440
Appesee and Geezer Butler and Bill Ward and Geezer

00:24:15.440 --> 00:24:18.099
Butler. Same thing. Different type of music,

00:24:18.339 --> 00:24:23.039
different type of tempo, but both strong in their

00:24:23.039 --> 00:24:28.420
own way. I would say that probably Roger Glover,

00:24:28.440 --> 00:24:30.619
like you, and Ian Pace, to me, were the main

00:24:30.619 --> 00:24:34.180
attraction. And then Glenn Hughes, he was a great

00:24:34.180 --> 00:24:37.200
bassist too, but his singing is what stands out

00:24:37.200 --> 00:24:42.579
on him. He does a falsetto that... I don't know

00:24:42.579 --> 00:24:46.000
who can hit. Chris Isaac, maybe. Yeah, Chris

00:24:46.000 --> 00:24:48.160
Isaac probably. But he hits his falsettos with

00:24:48.160 --> 00:24:51.160
a much softer voice, whereas some singers can

00:24:51.160 --> 00:24:53.660
hit that really high note with a lot of power.

00:24:53.900 --> 00:24:56.539
And I guess Adam Lambert can do that, too. I've

00:24:56.539 --> 00:24:58.059
never heard him, but I've heard that. I've heard

00:24:58.059 --> 00:25:01.559
Adam Lambert does that, too. Roger, no, John

00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:04.940
Deacon. I guess John Deacon can do that, wouldn't

00:25:04.940 --> 00:25:06.920
he? Oh, no, it was the drummer. No, it was Roger

00:25:06.920 --> 00:25:09.920
Taylor. Roger Taylor, yeah. He sang lead on some

00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:11.799
of the songs. He didn't realize he was singing

00:25:11.799 --> 00:25:13.460
lead on some of those. Like, I'm in love with

00:25:13.460 --> 00:25:17.480
my car. Yeah. That was Roger. And also, coincidentally,

00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.160
Glenn Hughes did too. Yeah. He sang lead too.

00:25:20.220 --> 00:25:22.519
Now, there was still David Coverdell singing

00:25:22.519 --> 00:25:25.039
backup, but there's a lot of verses that people

00:25:25.039 --> 00:25:29.819
don't realize that Glenn Hughes is actually singing

00:25:29.819 --> 00:25:33.240
the main chorus, and David Coverdell is in the

00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:35.940
background doing the background. And a lot of

00:25:35.940 --> 00:25:38.339
people don't realize that. And the only reason

00:25:38.339 --> 00:25:40.319
they went ahead and got a lead singer is because

00:25:40.319 --> 00:25:43.579
Richie Blackmore wanted a four -piece band. He

00:25:43.579 --> 00:25:45.839
did not like the idea of like, he was like, no,

00:25:46.000 --> 00:25:48.460
we need a lead singer out there. And that's why

00:25:48.460 --> 00:25:50.880
they searched around and got covered. And when

00:25:50.880 --> 00:25:53.000
they got him in there, everybody looked at each

00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:55.640
other, I was reading up on this, and said, yes,

00:25:55.880 --> 00:25:59.700
that's the guy. Because he hit a note like Robert

00:25:59.700 --> 00:26:02.950
Plant. And every one of them, I guess there was

00:26:02.950 --> 00:26:05.309
like three or four of them in a room. And every

00:26:05.309 --> 00:26:08.890
one of them spun around. Who is that guy? Yeah,

00:26:08.890 --> 00:26:13.349
and they go, that guy right there. So that would

00:26:13.349 --> 00:26:15.289
have been neat to see that audition, I can tell

00:26:15.289 --> 00:26:19.809
you that. But, yeah, so both of them, great.

00:26:20.250 --> 00:26:22.529
And same reason you like them, too. I mean, yeah,

00:26:22.529 --> 00:26:25.430
they're just... Especially Ian Pace. Like we

00:26:25.430 --> 00:26:27.369
said, everything we said about Ian Pace, and

00:26:27.369 --> 00:26:29.970
then so much more we can't. Yeah. And that was

00:26:29.970 --> 00:26:31.910
a fun -ass concert, wasn't it? Yeah, it was.

00:26:32.109 --> 00:26:35.349
Oh, yeah. Alice Cooper opened, and then they

00:26:35.349 --> 00:26:39.950
had Deep Purple. Yeah, didn't Edgar Winter start?

00:26:40.250 --> 00:26:42.430
Yeah, Edgar Winter. I forgot about that. Yeah.

00:26:42.490 --> 00:26:45.710
That was cool. It was good, yeah. Yeah, that

00:26:45.710 --> 00:26:49.869
was a great concert. I forgot the name of the

00:26:49.869 --> 00:26:52.049
amphitheater. It was right there. It was St.

00:26:52.369 --> 00:26:55.130
Charles, St. Louis area. Yeah, open area. It

00:26:55.130 --> 00:26:57.529
was right on the Missouri River. Yeah. Yeah,

00:26:57.609 --> 00:26:59.289
I can't remember. Hollywood? Was it Hollywood

00:26:59.289 --> 00:27:01.150
Amphitheater? I think it's Hollywood Amphitheater.

00:27:01.150 --> 00:27:03.589
That sounds right. Yeah. I'll tell you what.

00:27:03.670 --> 00:27:05.769
If you ever get a chance to go to Hollywood Amphitheater,

00:27:05.769 --> 00:27:08.089
do it. It's beautiful. Yeah, it's nice. It's

00:27:08.089 --> 00:27:10.470
easy in, easy out. Oh, it was great. All right.

00:27:11.230 --> 00:27:13.130
Oh, I wanted to mention, you were talking about

00:27:13.130 --> 00:27:16.369
Vinnie. Vinnie Appesee, his brother Carmine,

00:27:16.369 --> 00:27:20.250
who pronounced his last name Appesee, that's

00:27:20.250 --> 00:27:22.549
how I tell them apart. Yeah, me too. But Carmine

00:27:22.549 --> 00:27:25.569
Appesee had an endorsement deal with Ludwig,

00:27:25.630 --> 00:27:29.650
and he was out there touring with Rod Stewart

00:27:29.650 --> 00:27:32.750
and the Faces, and he had this big clear Vistalite

00:27:32.750 --> 00:27:35.990
Ludwig kit. And this drummer from this up -and

00:27:35.990 --> 00:27:38.549
-coming band said, oh man, that drum set's really

00:27:38.549 --> 00:27:40.630
cool, I really like that, I'd love to have one

00:27:40.630 --> 00:27:43.559
like it. And he said... No problem. Let me introduce

00:27:43.559 --> 00:27:45.720
you to Bob Ludwig, and we'll get you hooked up

00:27:45.720 --> 00:27:48.880
with an endorsement deal. And this drummer wanted

00:27:48.880 --> 00:27:52.339
one just like his, but in a single bass configuration,

00:27:52.680 --> 00:27:54.960
because Carmine played a double kick. That was

00:27:54.960 --> 00:27:58.680
John Bonoff. That's how he got his clear Ludwig

00:27:58.680 --> 00:28:01.599
kit, is because Carmine, at peace, hooked him

00:28:01.599 --> 00:28:04.440
up. I know they were really close. Yeah. Oh,

00:28:04.460 --> 00:28:08.509
wow. Yeah, he introduced him to Bob Ludwig. I

00:28:08.509 --> 00:28:11.150
think the third, who was, maybe it was the second,

00:28:11.210 --> 00:28:13.670
but he was running the artist relations at that

00:28:13.670 --> 00:28:17.089
point. I think it was maybe the third. Carmine

00:28:17.089 --> 00:28:20.349
was still endorsing Ludwig when he wasn't really

00:28:20.349 --> 00:28:23.450
doing music. Yeah. I mean, in the 80s, he was

00:28:23.450 --> 00:28:25.650
doing some stuff, but I mean, you know, Vanilla

00:28:25.650 --> 00:28:28.329
Fudge and Rod Stewart and all that. Cactus. Cactus,

00:28:28.450 --> 00:28:31.230
yeah. Yeah, he was putting out instructional

00:28:31.230 --> 00:28:34.430
books, too. Yes, but he was still endorsing him,

00:28:34.430 --> 00:28:37.059
and that's how solid Carmine a piece is. Both

00:28:37.059 --> 00:28:39.099
of them great drummers. They're completely different.

00:28:39.160 --> 00:28:40.640
Very different. Completely different, but great

00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.619
drummers. Anyway, that was my little aside about

00:28:43.619 --> 00:28:46.319
that. I like that a lot. That's good. So my next

00:28:46.319 --> 00:28:51.000
rhythm section is Jimi Hendrix. The Jimi Hendrix

00:28:51.000 --> 00:28:54.000
experience. Yeah. Noel Redding on bass, Mitch

00:28:54.000 --> 00:28:56.660
Mitchell on drums. Wow, that's a good one. And

00:28:56.660 --> 00:28:59.259
there's a very famous movie scene where I can't

00:28:59.259 --> 00:29:02.720
remember. I think it was Eddie Murphy or someone

00:29:02.720 --> 00:29:05.200
like that. who's talking about music with somebody,

00:29:05.380 --> 00:29:09.240
and he's arguing, no fucking way did Jimi Hendrix

00:29:09.240 --> 00:29:11.259
have an all -white rhythm section. No fucking

00:29:11.259 --> 00:29:13.200
way. And the guy holds the album cover up, and

00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.500
he's like, ah, he's screaming. That was just

00:29:15.500 --> 00:29:18.799
like when Led Zeppelin met, that is funny enough.

00:29:20.619 --> 00:29:22.619
That's just like when Led Zeppelin was waiting

00:29:22.619 --> 00:29:26.019
to meet Jimi Hendrix, and they thought that the

00:29:26.019 --> 00:29:30.549
black guy there was a roadie. And then I think

00:29:30.549 --> 00:29:32.450
it's John Bonham who goes, well, where is this

00:29:32.450 --> 00:29:34.809
Jimi Hendrix guy? And he goes, you've been talking

00:29:34.809 --> 00:29:39.769
to him. Wait a minute. Wait a minute. You don't

00:29:39.769 --> 00:29:41.990
play music like that. You mean he's not that

00:29:41.990 --> 00:29:44.589
white guy in England who makes amplifiers? That's

00:29:44.589 --> 00:29:47.869
not him. Different James Marshall. Yeah. But

00:29:47.869 --> 00:29:50.349
everybody thinks James Marshall was named after

00:29:50.349 --> 00:29:52.529
him. I used to do that all the time. Yeah. It's

00:29:52.529 --> 00:29:53.190
just coincidental. And everyone would agree.

00:29:53.190 --> 00:29:56.440
They'd be like, ah, cool. Yeah. Would have made

00:29:56.440 --> 00:29:58.700
sense to name the amps after him. It would have

00:29:58.700 --> 00:30:01.299
been, but yeah. He did use Marshall amps, by

00:30:01.299 --> 00:30:03.920
the way. He did? Yeah. But so did everybody.

00:30:04.240 --> 00:30:08.000
Yeah, pretty much everybody used Marshalls. So,

00:30:08.119 --> 00:30:14.160
that's my next. Okay. Bob Daisley, Cozy Pal.

00:30:14.700 --> 00:30:19.720
I like Cozy. Yeah. R .I .P. Cozy. Bob Daisley.

00:30:19.779 --> 00:30:22.990
Oh, yeah, yeah. Bob Daisley was such an intricate

00:30:22.990 --> 00:30:25.630
part of so many bands like Blizzard of Oz, Rainbow,

00:30:26.089 --> 00:30:30.529
Uriah Heep. Yeah. Gosh, there's so many. That

00:30:30.529 --> 00:30:32.829
was another good rhythm section was in Uriah

00:30:32.829 --> 00:30:34.690
Heep. I could have went there, too. I didn't

00:30:34.690 --> 00:30:38.089
think about it. Take me across the water because

00:30:38.089 --> 00:30:40.670
I need some place to hide. That's a great song.

00:30:41.109 --> 00:30:42.950
Stealing when I should have been buying. Yeah,

00:30:42.990 --> 00:30:44.710
that was it. Yeah, that was it. Sometimes I have

00:30:44.710 --> 00:30:46.769
to sing the lyrics to remember the title. And

00:30:46.769 --> 00:30:49.609
they have, like, fun. Because I'm old. Me, too.

00:30:50.009 --> 00:30:52.710
They have like 500 albums. Yeah, yeah. Elton

00:30:52.710 --> 00:30:55.309
John loaned his drummer, Nigel Olsen, to Uriah

00:30:55.309 --> 00:30:57.569
Heath for a tour because Uriah Heath was without

00:30:57.569 --> 00:30:59.890
a drummer for some reason. And Elton wasn't doing

00:30:59.890 --> 00:31:03.490
anything. He was like, yeah, go ahead. I was

00:31:03.490 --> 00:31:06.049
at a drum clinic with Nigel Olsen a number of

00:31:06.049 --> 00:31:08.269
years back, and that was one of the stories he

00:31:08.269 --> 00:31:10.509
told us. It was pretty cool going on tour with...

00:31:10.779 --> 00:31:12.880
Totally different band, totally different. I

00:31:12.880 --> 00:31:15.059
was used to the way Elton did everything. I bet

00:31:15.059 --> 00:31:16.240
that would have been me. I was out here with

00:31:16.240 --> 00:31:19.539
Uriah Heep and we're all a band. It was a really

00:31:19.539 --> 00:31:22.319
great experience. I really enjoyed it. That's

00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.400
cool. Bob Daisley will never get the credit he

00:31:25.400 --> 00:31:28.559
deserves. Probably not. Also, he writes songs.

00:31:28.700 --> 00:31:31.160
He's a great songwriter. Really good. He's behind

00:31:31.160 --> 00:31:36.660
most of Blizzard of Oz, the album. Diary of a

00:31:36.660 --> 00:31:39.769
Madman. I wish we could trust the songwriting

00:31:39.769 --> 00:31:41.829
credits to see who really writes these songs,

00:31:42.049 --> 00:31:44.509
but there's a lot of them where they'll give

00:31:44.509 --> 00:31:46.529
credit to somebody because they want to make

00:31:46.529 --> 00:31:50.430
sure he gets paid. Yes. So it's like most of

00:31:50.430 --> 00:31:53.400
the Alice Cooper hits. are credited to all five

00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:56.019
members of the band, even if they didn't really

00:31:56.019 --> 00:31:58.200
write it, because that was a way to make sure

00:31:58.200 --> 00:32:00.740
when the song became a big hit, everybody got

00:32:00.740 --> 00:32:03.180
paid. And that's because Alice Cooper was a solid

00:32:03.180 --> 00:32:06.079
guy. Yeah. There's also some not -so -solid people

00:32:06.079 --> 00:32:10.259
in the industry, too. David Bowie. Yeah. Everybody

00:32:10.259 --> 00:32:13.099
loves him. He screwed a lot of people over. He

00:32:13.099 --> 00:32:19.200
paid Stevie Ray Vaughan base union scale for

00:32:19.200 --> 00:32:22.500
a whole tour. Oh. He said, that's all I'm going

00:32:22.500 --> 00:32:24.779
to pay you. The absolute minimum I'm legally

00:32:24.779 --> 00:32:31.559
required to. He lived with Glenn Hughes for like

00:32:31.559 --> 00:32:34.960
a year rent free. Yeah. He was notoriously cheap.

00:32:35.140 --> 00:32:38.099
He was. The dude had money though. Yeah. He did

00:32:38.099 --> 00:32:43.240
have money. Yeah. Not anymore. No. His widow

00:32:43.240 --> 00:32:48.619
has money. Yeah. So, anyhow, Bob Daisley, but

00:32:48.619 --> 00:32:51.059
Cozy Pal, I don't really need to say anymore.

00:32:51.339 --> 00:32:55.099
Yeah. Cozy Pal, such a fantastic drummer. Like

00:32:55.099 --> 00:32:57.720
you said, R .I .P. One of my favorite drummers

00:32:57.720 --> 00:33:00.640
of all time, actually. I actually liked him better

00:33:00.640 --> 00:33:03.920
in Emerson, Lake, and Powell than I did Carl

00:33:03.920 --> 00:33:05.380
Palmer in Emerson, Lake, and Palmer. I did, too.

00:33:05.420 --> 00:33:08.579
I did, too. Carl Palmer was good and fast and

00:33:08.579 --> 00:33:14.140
fun, but he was sloppy, and his timekeeping was

00:33:14.140 --> 00:33:18.819
off. That song, Carnival 9, Welcome Back My Friends

00:33:18.819 --> 00:33:21.599
to the Show That Never Ends. There's a middle

00:33:21.599 --> 00:33:24.000
section there where he does a drum break, and

00:33:24.000 --> 00:33:27.380
he speeds way the fuck up. Way up. I'll have

00:33:27.380 --> 00:33:29.099
to re -listen to that, but I think I know what

00:33:29.099 --> 00:33:31.140
you're talking about. And then after the drum

00:33:31.140 --> 00:33:33.720
break, after a few measures of the drum break,

00:33:33.779 --> 00:33:36.359
the vocals come back in, and it slows down just

00:33:36.359 --> 00:33:39.569
slightly. And then the whole band comes in and

00:33:39.569 --> 00:33:42.650
it's a big noticeable slowdown because they had

00:33:42.650 --> 00:33:45.029
to stop and start again at the correct tempo.

00:33:45.230 --> 00:33:46.869
Oh, we damn. Because when he went into the done

00:33:46.869 --> 00:33:49.809
break, he just went, he accelerated about two

00:33:49.809 --> 00:33:53.730
and a half times. So that's sloppy. I like Powell

00:33:53.730 --> 00:33:56.309
better. Yeah, I like, I mean, I like Carl Palmer.

00:33:56.470 --> 00:33:59.609
I like to say, yeah, Carl Palmer's fine, but

00:33:59.609 --> 00:34:02.849
I like the songwriting with Powell better anyhow.

00:34:03.089 --> 00:34:06.630
So anyhow, all right. All right, well, my next

00:34:06.630 --> 00:34:11.480
one up. is The Who. John N. Twistle on bass and

00:34:11.480 --> 00:34:13.400
Keith Moon on the drums. That's a great one.

00:34:13.440 --> 00:34:15.980
Gotta be Mooney on the drums. I got that down,

00:34:16.039 --> 00:34:19.139
Matt. Keith Moon. Too bad he passed away so young.

00:34:19.380 --> 00:34:21.820
It's like they said, everything you've heard,

00:34:21.980 --> 00:34:23.579
all those stories you've heard about Keith Moon,

00:34:23.679 --> 00:34:25.579
they're all true. And then some more. And you've

00:34:25.579 --> 00:34:28.679
only heard about 10 % of them. Yes. And that's

00:34:28.679 --> 00:34:32.019
pretty much the way he was. It's just amazing.

00:34:32.360 --> 00:34:34.960
That was in Glenn Hughes' book, too, his autobiography,

00:34:35.000 --> 00:34:37.300
about him walking around in a Nazi uniform and

00:34:37.300 --> 00:34:40.380
all this shit. Putting a waterbed mattress in

00:34:40.380 --> 00:34:42.480
and out, trying to put it in an elevator and

00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:44.400
send it down the floor so when the doors opened

00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.460
up, this big waterbed mattress would fall out

00:34:46.460 --> 00:34:49.380
on somebody. They got it halfway out of the frame

00:34:49.380 --> 00:34:51.800
and it burst. And it burst. It flooded the room

00:34:51.800 --> 00:34:57.239
and the room below. He was a rock star of rock

00:34:57.239 --> 00:34:59.739
stars. And he was just like the perfect publicity

00:34:59.739 --> 00:35:02.820
for that band, too. He kept them front and center

00:35:02.820 --> 00:35:05.159
in everyone's attention. He's priceless. He made

00:35:05.159 --> 00:35:09.199
brown M &M's look nothing. He made throwing TVs

00:35:09.199 --> 00:35:12.280
out a 30 -story window nothing. And there was

00:35:12.280 --> 00:35:15.300
that famous fishing incident. Oh, yeah, yeah,

00:35:15.300 --> 00:35:19.099
yeah. Look that up. I'm not going to say it.

00:35:20.519 --> 00:35:23.900
Yeah, yeah. It happened in Seattle at the Edgewater

00:35:23.900 --> 00:35:27.340
Hotel. Yeah. And it is a groupie and a fish.

00:35:27.400 --> 00:35:29.340
That's all you need to put in. Google it. Yeah,

00:35:29.360 --> 00:35:31.699
yeah. I think some members of Led Zeppelin were

00:35:31.699 --> 00:35:34.320
involved. They were. They were. Now, it's argued

00:35:34.320 --> 00:35:41.059
whether Carmine Apice or if John Bonham did the

00:35:41.059 --> 00:35:46.539
actual whatever happened. Yes. The actual fish

00:35:46.539 --> 00:35:51.070
incident. Yeah. Since Bonham isn't around anymore

00:35:51.070 --> 00:35:53.610
to defend himself. Might as well blame him. He's

00:35:53.610 --> 00:35:56.750
blamed. Blame the dead guy. Yep, blame the dead

00:35:56.750 --> 00:35:59.869
guy. But rumor has it, people that were there

00:35:59.869 --> 00:36:02.630
said, no, it was actually Vanilla Fudge that

00:36:02.630 --> 00:36:05.090
started that, and Led Zeppelin was watching,

00:36:05.150 --> 00:36:08.230
and it was probably Carmine Apiece that actually

00:36:08.230 --> 00:36:11.130
did that. And the legend is that Zapper wrote

00:36:11.130 --> 00:36:14.960
his song. Mud Shark? Yes. About this incident.

00:36:15.039 --> 00:36:17.619
And he was talking about Vanilla Fudge specifically

00:36:17.619 --> 00:36:19.800
in that song. Yes, he was. So I guess he knew

00:36:19.800 --> 00:36:22.119
something that other people didn't. Zappa heard

00:36:22.119 --> 00:36:28.480
stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. Whose turn

00:36:28.480 --> 00:36:31.500
is it? We got all carried away. I did the who.

00:36:31.659 --> 00:36:36.239
Oh, okay. I got Chris Squire and Bill Bruford.

00:36:36.340 --> 00:36:39.340
Yes. Oh, I forgot them. Definitely. Oh, my God.

00:36:39.360 --> 00:36:45.760
Yeah. Their progressive stuff. Oh my gosh. Mind

00:36:45.760 --> 00:36:48.840
-boggling stuff. Yeah. I mean, the songs are

00:36:48.840 --> 00:36:50.780
great, but I always lost myself in their rhythm.

00:36:50.880 --> 00:36:53.639
Yeah. Because it just went on these tangents

00:36:53.639 --> 00:36:55.719
of everything. And I'm just sitting there going,

00:36:55.840 --> 00:36:58.460
I've forgotten what song it is listening to.

00:36:58.539 --> 00:37:00.840
I know, it changes so many times and you're off

00:37:00.840 --> 00:37:03.460
on this. I remember reading in a drum room magazine

00:37:03.460 --> 00:37:06.719
that Bill Bruford really didn't understand. Those

00:37:06.719 --> 00:37:09.280
time signatures and the way they changed all

00:37:09.280 --> 00:37:12.039
that well, he was just incredibly good at memorizing

00:37:12.039 --> 00:37:15.179
long, complex passages. Wow. So he wouldn't play

00:37:15.179 --> 00:37:17.559
thinking, okay, now we're in 5 -4, okay, now

00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:19.840
we're doing two measures of 7 -8, okay, now we're

00:37:19.840 --> 00:37:22.480
back to 5 -4. No, he just memorized. Who wrote

00:37:22.480 --> 00:37:26.000
that then? I think Squire wrote a lot of it.

00:37:26.139 --> 00:37:31.780
Squire. The guitar player. Who was the guitar

00:37:31.780 --> 00:37:35.050
player? Oh, shit. Damn it. It starts with a T.

00:37:35.070 --> 00:37:39.150
Tom, Tony, something. Yeah. I can picture him.

00:37:39.150 --> 00:37:41.190
He's an unusual looking guy. Anyway, he wrote

00:37:41.190 --> 00:37:43.949
a number of them. Okay. Well, that's interesting.

00:37:44.230 --> 00:37:49.050
Wow, okay. But, yeah, I mean, their body of work

00:37:49.050 --> 00:37:52.650
is insane. Yeah. So. Yeah, growing up learning

00:37:52.650 --> 00:37:55.670
to play the drums, I stayed away from, yes. I

00:37:55.670 --> 00:37:58.409
just, it was like really discouraging to try

00:37:58.409 --> 00:38:00.349
to play those songs when I was just starting

00:38:00.349 --> 00:38:03.599
out. You can be an experienced drummer and not

00:38:03.599 --> 00:38:05.420
get it. Yeah, I mean, if you don't understand

00:38:05.420 --> 00:38:08.360
that style or that mindset, it's like I struggle

00:38:08.360 --> 00:38:11.320
with swing music. I could understand that, yeah,

00:38:11.380 --> 00:38:14.300
because it's so different. I can play the swing

00:38:14.300 --> 00:38:16.280
rhythm, but I don't know how to put the accents

00:38:16.280 --> 00:38:18.780
in, how to do the fill. I can do shuffle, but

00:38:18.780 --> 00:38:21.199
swing is just a different animal. I just don't

00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.480
play it enough. It's got its own signature that

00:38:22.480 --> 00:38:26.280
is just, yeah, okay. All right, your turn. Okay.

00:38:27.019 --> 00:38:30.989
Tool. Justin Chancellor on bass and Danny Carey

00:38:30.989 --> 00:38:36.929
from Lawrence Kansas on drums. Local guy. I used

00:38:36.929 --> 00:38:39.210
to go to the same drum shop as Danny Carey. I

00:38:39.210 --> 00:38:42.269
never actually ran into him there, but he and

00:38:42.269 --> 00:38:45.449
I used to both patronize Explorers Percussion.

00:38:45.630 --> 00:38:48.389
Oh, Explorers. Yeah, I know them. Yeah, and Waldo.

00:38:48.510 --> 00:38:51.170
Yeah. They're out of business now because Wes

00:38:51.170 --> 00:38:55.199
retired. Yeah, yeah. I found Wes on Facebook

00:38:55.199 --> 00:38:58.139
selling some stuff for the widow of a drummer

00:38:58.139 --> 00:39:01.659
he knew really well. So I bought some pretty

00:39:01.659 --> 00:39:03.679
good stuff off him that way. I wonder what happened

00:39:03.679 --> 00:39:05.199
to him. I didn't know he retired. Well, that's

00:39:05.199 --> 00:39:08.059
good. I thought maybe just clientele became different.

00:39:08.300 --> 00:39:11.260
No, he's my age. We went to college together.

00:39:11.639 --> 00:39:14.780
Okay. And he's been in business. I mean, when

00:39:14.780 --> 00:39:16.960
he was in college, he was running it out of his

00:39:16.960 --> 00:39:19.829
garage. So he's been running Explorer's Percussion

00:39:19.829 --> 00:39:24.989
in one form or another since 1979, 1980. I couldn't

00:39:24.989 --> 00:39:26.730
remember who told me that. You told me that.

00:39:26.750 --> 00:39:29.030
Yeah, wow. I think he had four or five different

00:39:29.030 --> 00:39:31.550
locations, and I've been to every one except

00:39:31.550 --> 00:39:34.230
the one in his garage. I didn't go to that one.

00:39:35.929 --> 00:39:42.489
Oh, man. Yeah, Tool is insane. The reaction videos

00:39:42.489 --> 00:39:44.829
to Tool songs, especially there's one out there

00:39:44.829 --> 00:39:47.170
where they're performing Numa. And it's the drum

00:39:47.170 --> 00:39:49.730
cam sponsored by his drumstick company, Vic Firth.

00:39:50.449 --> 00:39:53.409
And that's usually what people see on the, do

00:39:53.409 --> 00:39:56.230
the reaction videos too. And it's pretty amazing.

00:39:56.389 --> 00:40:00.090
Just the independence of motion and the way he

00:40:00.090 --> 00:40:03.030
can work dynamics into, he takes something complex

00:40:03.030 --> 00:40:05.610
and difficult and then he works dynamics in.

00:40:05.690 --> 00:40:07.989
A little louder, a little softer, a little louder.

00:40:08.090 --> 00:40:10.849
It's like, oh my God, how many brains do you

00:40:10.849 --> 00:40:17.219
have in your head? It's just crazy. You know,

00:40:17.219 --> 00:40:19.440
sometimes I think, I've got pretty good independence

00:40:19.440 --> 00:40:21.179
of movement. And I watch them and it's like,

00:40:21.239 --> 00:40:24.659
or Terry Bozio. That's when you go home with

00:40:24.659 --> 00:40:26.760
your head down. Yeah. And then you got to realize,

00:40:26.880 --> 00:40:30.199
okay, I fill my role. He fills his role. His

00:40:30.199 --> 00:40:32.480
role is different than mine. It doesn't mean

00:40:32.480 --> 00:40:35.780
anything. You can do it, champ. I'd be in the

00:40:35.780 --> 00:40:37.780
mirror going, I can do it, champ. I can do it.

00:40:38.780 --> 00:40:41.780
All right. My next one, or no, it's your turn.

00:40:41.800 --> 00:40:45.260
I did two of them. Oh, it didn't matter. This

00:40:45.260 --> 00:40:48.519
is underrated, but I'm telling you, really, there

00:40:48.519 --> 00:40:52.860
was a magic to it. Chris Novoselic and Dave Grohl.

00:40:53.300 --> 00:40:57.860
Yeah. It wasn't the most complex. It wasn't the

00:40:57.860 --> 00:41:01.699
most unique. It wasn't the most rhythmic. There

00:41:01.699 --> 00:41:04.780
was a certain force and power in it that gave

00:41:04.780 --> 00:41:08.199
it a feel that it needed to be. Yeah. And especially

00:41:08.199 --> 00:41:14.880
on, you know, Nevermind album. Yeah. The songwriting

00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:19.659
on that, specifically because of those two. And

00:41:19.659 --> 00:41:22.599
they did go through, I think, five different

00:41:22.599 --> 00:41:25.139
drummers before they settled on Dave Grohl. In

00:41:25.139 --> 00:41:31.400
fact, there's one of the songs on Nevermind that

00:41:31.400 --> 00:41:33.599
is actually the previous drummer. They used that

00:41:33.599 --> 00:41:35.880
recording. I can't remember which one it was.

00:41:35.920 --> 00:41:39.320
It wasn't a big song. But it was one of those.

00:41:39.380 --> 00:41:43.289
It's like on the first Boston album. Sib Hashian

00:41:43.289 --> 00:41:45.869
isn't the drummer on all of those songs. The

00:41:45.869 --> 00:41:48.170
other, the former drummer, the one that Tom Scholz

00:41:48.170 --> 00:41:50.690
really wanted, still played the drums on a few

00:41:50.690 --> 00:41:52.070
of those recordings. Oh, okay, I didn't know

00:41:52.070 --> 00:41:54.409
that. Yeah, but the label said, no, you need

00:41:54.409 --> 00:41:57.869
Sib. It worked out to be the right choice. I

00:41:57.869 --> 00:42:01.070
mean, he was perfect for them. Kind of like what

00:42:01.070 --> 00:42:04.250
I understand of Wes Gantland. They told him,

00:42:04.329 --> 00:42:06.269
the record company said, we want you and nobody

00:42:06.269 --> 00:42:09.889
else in your band. Yeah. If that's true, I don't

00:42:09.889 --> 00:42:12.000
know. That's what I heard, too. The rest of the

00:42:12.000 --> 00:42:15.300
band came home. And dejected. Yep. They said

00:42:15.300 --> 00:42:19.599
no. And start over. Yep. Sucks. All right. Oh,

00:42:19.699 --> 00:42:23.320
okay. I just did one. Yep. And they're not the

00:42:23.320 --> 00:42:25.219
most talented. And I can see why anyone would

00:42:25.219 --> 00:42:28.099
go, oh, bullshit. But I kind of feel it just

00:42:28.099 --> 00:42:30.920
because of the feel that they came up with. And

00:42:30.920 --> 00:42:32.480
it's pretty important in a three -piece like

00:42:32.480 --> 00:42:35.300
that. The rhythm section really has to carry

00:42:35.300 --> 00:42:37.909
the day when the guitar player is soloing. Or

00:42:37.909 --> 00:42:40.030
maybe the guitar player drops out from playing

00:42:40.030 --> 00:42:43.170
so he can sing. Which he did quite, yeah. Yeah,

00:42:43.170 --> 00:42:45.289
you've got to have a solid foundation there to

00:42:45.289 --> 00:42:47.010
keep going. Well, a good one is Smells Like Teen

00:42:47.010 --> 00:42:51.269
Spirit. Yeah. Where the intro, when Kurt Cobain

00:42:51.269 --> 00:42:53.889
starts singing, is a rhythm section only. Yeah.

00:42:53.969 --> 00:42:57.010
And then he breaks in with a couple of licks.

00:42:57.610 --> 00:43:01.130
And that's a great example right there. And that

00:43:01.130 --> 00:43:02.969
is a great example of why I thought they were

00:43:02.969 --> 00:43:06.519
so good. Yeah. It's interesting, I did not put

00:43:06.519 --> 00:43:11.119
ZZ Top on my list. Predominantly because for

00:43:11.119 --> 00:43:15.139
most of their hits, it's a drum machine. It's

00:43:15.139 --> 00:43:19.420
a live bass player in Dusty Hill, but it was

00:43:19.420 --> 00:43:22.219
a drum machine on drums. I'm not voting for a

00:43:22.219 --> 00:43:26.059
drum machine. No, me neither. It was good, but

00:43:26.059 --> 00:43:28.039
nothing really stood out that much, and probably

00:43:28.039 --> 00:43:31.670
because it was a drum machine. And it was being

00:43:31.670 --> 00:43:34.809
programmed by a guitar player. Yeah, that's true.

00:43:36.289 --> 00:43:39.170
Another good point. Yeah. All right, my next

00:43:39.170 --> 00:43:43.429
one is Bad Company. Buzz Burrell on bass and

00:43:43.429 --> 00:43:46.949
Simon Kirk on drums. I should have caught that

00:43:46.949 --> 00:43:50.269
one. Of the two, Simon Kirk was by far the better.

00:43:50.389 --> 00:43:53.090
Buzz Burrell had practiced a lot to keep up with

00:43:53.090 --> 00:43:54.969
the rest of the band. He really wasn't all that

00:43:54.969 --> 00:43:58.030
great a bass player, but he got it done when

00:43:58.030 --> 00:44:01.980
it counted. The off -kilter rhythm to The Sky

00:44:01.980 --> 00:44:08.460
is Burning. Buzz Burrell came up with that. It

00:44:08.460 --> 00:44:10.539
was just a straight 4 -4 beat until he said,

00:44:10.619 --> 00:44:13.480
no, how about this? Made the whole song, became

00:44:13.480 --> 00:44:16.599
the title track of the album. I mean, that's

00:44:16.599 --> 00:44:20.920
contribution. And Simon Kirk is such a beast.

00:44:21.139 --> 00:44:25.800
Oh, God. It's deceptive because what you're listening

00:44:25.800 --> 00:44:28.059
to is like, okay, that's pretty standard beat,

00:44:28.139 --> 00:44:29.820
and then you try to play it and it just doesn't

00:44:29.820 --> 00:44:32.460
sound like it because he's just doing it just

00:44:32.460 --> 00:44:36.820
right. He has that thing. He has that whatever

00:44:36.820 --> 00:44:39.019
it is that can do that. I'd put him right up

00:44:39.019 --> 00:44:41.300
there with Joey Kramer of Aerosmith. Easily.

00:44:41.800 --> 00:44:43.840
They're the same kind of drummer. They're just

00:44:43.840 --> 00:44:46.300
dead rock solid perfect, and if they weren't

00:44:46.300 --> 00:44:48.500
there, your band wouldn't be where it is. I agree.

00:44:48.500 --> 00:44:53.320
Just wouldn't. Yeah. And another thing is the

00:44:53.320 --> 00:44:57.500
value of having Paul Rogers as a singer. Yeah.

00:44:57.920 --> 00:45:01.940
Didn't over sing. No. That straightforward rhythm

00:45:01.940 --> 00:45:05.360
rock was exactly what they needed was his voice.

00:45:05.519 --> 00:45:08.039
Yeah. They couldn't have had like a Robert Plant

00:45:08.039 --> 00:45:09.800
or somebody, and I think that's why they went

00:45:09.800 --> 00:45:13.860
after him. Yeah. They got Paul Rogers and Simon

00:45:13.860 --> 00:45:16.179
Kirk from the band Free. Yeah. They have the

00:45:16.179 --> 00:45:19.440
song All Right Now. Yeah. Paul Kosoff was a guitar

00:45:19.440 --> 00:45:21.780
player in that band who... He was an excellent

00:45:21.780 --> 00:45:23.719
guitar player, but just drank himself to death

00:45:23.719 --> 00:45:27.980
by 1975, I think. Yeah. Another one that did

00:45:27.980 --> 00:45:31.000
that was Rory Gallagher. Yeah. He was really

00:45:31.000 --> 00:45:33.099
unique and had a lot of different melodies and

00:45:33.099 --> 00:45:35.599
stuff, but he didn't have that many hit songs,

00:45:35.739 --> 00:45:38.059
but guitarists really knew him really well. Yeah.

00:45:38.079 --> 00:45:40.619
And he drank himself to death, too. Anyhow, I'm

00:45:40.619 --> 00:45:43.179
sorry. Go ahead. Saw a story the other day about

00:45:43.179 --> 00:45:46.260
the origin of the Bad Company name. Uh -huh.

00:45:46.320 --> 00:45:48.019
They were putting the band together. They had

00:45:48.019 --> 00:45:51.579
all the members. Mick... Ralphs is the guitar

00:45:51.579 --> 00:45:53.780
player. Mick Jones is in Ford, or Mick Ralphs

00:45:53.780 --> 00:45:57.000
is in Bad Co. And they were like, and he was

00:45:57.000 --> 00:45:58.659
on the phone with Mick, and they were talking

00:45:58.659 --> 00:46:03.159
about band names. And Paul said, how about Bad

00:46:03.159 --> 00:46:06.559
Company? And Mick said, no, that's the title

00:46:06.559 --> 00:46:08.980
of the song you wrote. And he said, I know, but

00:46:08.980 --> 00:46:10.900
it'd be a good name for a band. And they said,

00:46:10.980 --> 00:46:14.400
Mick just dropped the phone. And then he picked

00:46:14.400 --> 00:46:17.619
it up and said, that's it. That's our name. So

00:46:17.619 --> 00:46:20.199
the band was named after the song that Paul Rogers

00:46:20.199 --> 00:46:22.780
had already written. I love that name. But the

00:46:22.780 --> 00:46:26.300
song itself was written based on a movie. Did

00:46:26.300 --> 00:46:29.239
you ever know that? No, I didn't. There's a Bad

00:46:29.239 --> 00:46:32.000
Company movie that's more recent, like 80s or

00:46:32.000 --> 00:46:36.639
90s. But there's one from 1972, I think it was,

00:46:36.760 --> 00:46:39.800
called Bad Company. Jeff Bridges is in it and

00:46:39.800 --> 00:46:45.130
a newcomer named Blair Brown. Oh, good. It's

00:46:45.130 --> 00:46:47.769
basically the story of the song. The song goes,

00:46:47.829 --> 00:46:51.329
Rebel souls, deserters we are called, chose the

00:46:51.329 --> 00:46:53.989
gun and threw away the sword. The movie is about

00:46:53.989 --> 00:46:58.329
civil war in the South, and the war is going

00:46:58.329 --> 00:47:03.010
badly, so they're drafting young teenagers and

00:47:03.010 --> 00:47:06.889
younger, and they're taking this wagon with a

00:47:06.889 --> 00:47:09.929
jail cell on it from farm to farm, and if they

00:47:09.929 --> 00:47:12.469
find somebody of military age, they drag them

00:47:12.469 --> 00:47:15.280
in. bindings and throw them into that cell and

00:47:15.280 --> 00:47:18.860
said you're in the army now boy oh wow so that's

00:47:18.860 --> 00:47:20.940
what they were escaping from these these you

00:47:20.940 --> 00:47:24.320
know kids between like 12 and 17 just went on

00:47:24.320 --> 00:47:28.500
the run living as thieves and and gunfighters

00:47:28.500 --> 00:47:31.400
because they didn't want to go to war and the

00:47:31.400 --> 00:47:33.880
movie's pretty fascinating and pretty grim but

00:47:33.880 --> 00:47:37.699
the song is just it's a description of the movie

00:47:37.699 --> 00:47:41.780
one thing you got to be warned of in the movie

00:47:42.320 --> 00:47:44.079
There's a scene where they're hunting a rabbit.

00:47:44.380 --> 00:47:47.739
They actually shoot and kill a real rabbit on

00:47:47.739 --> 00:47:50.340
camera to film the scene. They actually murder

00:47:50.340 --> 00:47:52.199
a rabbit right in front of you. So if you don't

00:47:52.199 --> 00:47:54.079
want to see that, you know, don't watch the rabbit

00:47:54.079 --> 00:47:56.920
scene. Okay. Well, I'll probably still watch

00:47:56.920 --> 00:48:00.719
it, but anyhow. Okay. It's not as bad as that

00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:03.699
movie Come and See, which was about the Russian

00:48:03.699 --> 00:48:06.679
partisans in World War II. They actually murder

00:48:06.679 --> 00:48:11.079
a cow with machine guns. Oh. Yeah. Live right

00:48:11.079 --> 00:48:13.280
there on camera. It was actually done. That would

00:48:13.280 --> 00:48:16.559
have been horrible. It was a real thing that

00:48:16.559 --> 00:48:18.739
the soldiers did. They'd find some livestock.

00:48:18.860 --> 00:48:21.559
They'd just shoot it, kill it, and eat it. But

00:48:21.559 --> 00:48:24.139
they didn't have to actually murder a cow with

00:48:24.139 --> 00:48:26.059
machine guns to make their point. That was just

00:48:26.059 --> 00:48:29.840
disgusting. I watched the movie once. Incredible

00:48:29.840 --> 00:48:33.860
movie. Really makes its point well. Never need

00:48:33.860 --> 00:48:38.019
to see it again. It's a Russian production. Come

00:48:38.019 --> 00:48:42.780
and see. After you say that, I agree 100%. All

00:48:42.780 --> 00:48:45.579
right, my next one is Keith Moon and John Entwistle,

00:48:45.739 --> 00:48:48.139
but I'm going to go ahead, and then I have Geddy

00:48:48.139 --> 00:48:51.699
Lee and Neil Peart. I mean, we already went over

00:48:51.699 --> 00:48:53.280
both of them. I don't know what else to say.

00:48:53.539 --> 00:48:57.739
I mean, Keith Moon was insane in a lot of ways.

00:48:58.940 --> 00:49:02.460
Geddy Lee, Neil Peart, Geddy Lee plays guitar,

00:49:02.579 --> 00:49:05.940
basically, with his bass, his lead bass. Neil

00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:08.480
Peart is Neil Peart. He's not as excessive as,

00:49:08.559 --> 00:49:12.659
say, Les Claypool of Primus. No. He's excessive

00:49:12.659 --> 00:49:18.579
in my opinion. I agree. I agree. Like Tom Peterson

00:49:18.579 --> 00:49:20.980
of Cheap Trick, he played rhythm guitar on bass.

00:49:21.380 --> 00:49:26.480
Yeah. He also invented the guitar, the bass guitar

00:49:26.480 --> 00:49:29.219
that you turn upside down, and it was octave,

00:49:29.280 --> 00:49:33.630
and you turned it upright in its bass. 12 -string

00:49:33.630 --> 00:49:35.769
bass. 12 -string, yeah. And there was a time

00:49:35.769 --> 00:49:38.329
when there were 12 volume controls on it. I think

00:49:38.329 --> 00:49:40.210
just the looks. Yeah, they finally cut that down,

00:49:40.269 --> 00:49:44.329
yes. But it was intimidating because I saw one

00:49:44.329 --> 00:49:46.389
at a music store and I'm like, what the hell

00:49:46.389 --> 00:49:49.710
do you do with this? And even the guy there is

00:49:49.710 --> 00:49:52.699
like... I don't know. I need to go to college

00:49:52.699 --> 00:49:54.719
to learn how to operate the tone circuit on this

00:49:54.719 --> 00:49:58.300
damn thing. Like you said, I hope it has an instruction

00:49:58.300 --> 00:50:00.940
manual because I don't know what to do with all

00:50:00.940 --> 00:50:02.860
this. They didn't have YouTube back then. Tom

00:50:02.860 --> 00:50:05.480
Peterson was too good. That's the problem. He

00:50:05.480 --> 00:50:09.400
overthought it. But actually, the idea itself

00:50:09.400 --> 00:50:12.699
is brilliant. One of the most common uses of

00:50:12.699 --> 00:50:16.780
that bass is Jeremy by Pearl Jam. The guitar

00:50:16.780 --> 00:50:19.699
-ish bassist sound at first. That starts and

00:50:19.699 --> 00:50:23.179
ends the song. Yes. Yeah, that's amazing. Yeah,

00:50:23.219 --> 00:50:26.340
and think of that tone that they get there. Insanely

00:50:26.340 --> 00:50:29.699
good. Yeah. So, anyhow, we can go to you. Those

00:50:29.699 --> 00:50:33.980
two are mine. Here's my honorable mention. This

00:50:33.980 --> 00:50:36.440
is the early Elton John. And I'm talking early,

00:50:36.659 --> 00:50:40.320
early Elton John. Refresh me. It was just bass,

00:50:40.400 --> 00:50:43.380
drums, and keyboard. The entire band was a rhythm

00:50:43.380 --> 00:50:50.489
section. Really? Yeah. He had at least two albums

00:50:50.489 --> 00:50:54.570
and a live album called 11 -17 -70, because that's

00:50:54.570 --> 00:50:56.949
the date it was recorded. And it was just bass

00:50:56.949 --> 00:51:01.030
drums and piano. And they had songs like Burn

00:51:01.030 --> 00:51:09.110
Down the Mission. 60 Years On was another one.

00:51:09.110 --> 00:51:10.929
I'm trying to remember some of the... Anyway,

00:51:10.949 --> 00:51:15.420
not real big hits, but... It was really fascinating

00:51:15.420 --> 00:51:19.300
to listen to just three musicians. Yeah. No guitar.

00:51:19.659 --> 00:51:23.500
Just bass, drums, and keys. Not even a synthesizer

00:51:23.500 --> 00:51:25.820
or an organ. Just a regular old piano. And they

00:51:25.820 --> 00:51:28.800
were crushing it. It was amazing. I would go

00:51:28.800 --> 00:51:31.000
to visits of that because, like, you know, I

00:51:31.000 --> 00:51:33.260
was used to stuff like Funeral for a Friend with

00:51:33.260 --> 00:51:36.940
that famous guitar rhythm lick in there. Yeah.

00:51:38.019 --> 00:51:42.380
Wow. Interesting. Yeah. I think his very first

00:51:42.380 --> 00:51:45.710
album. Empty Sky was pretty disappointing. I

00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:48.710
would not recommend that to anybody. But then

00:51:48.710 --> 00:51:54.889
after that there was, I can't even think of the

00:51:54.889 --> 00:51:58.289
name, but the live album is called 11 -17 -70.

00:51:58.489 --> 00:52:01.750
I would listen to that live album and get an

00:52:01.750 --> 00:52:03.969
idea of the early album. Yeah, because Funeral

00:52:03.969 --> 00:52:06.210
for a Friend was in the 80s because that was

00:52:06.210 --> 00:52:09.500
a tribute to John Lennon. No, that was 73. Was

00:52:09.500 --> 00:52:11.940
it a 73? Yeah, that came out the same year Billion

00:52:11.940 --> 00:52:14.199
Dollar Babies did. Oh, I must have completely

00:52:14.199 --> 00:52:16.500
got that wrong then. Yeah. I thought it was.

00:52:17.159 --> 00:52:21.639
No, a funeral for a friend. Not somebody else.

00:52:22.019 --> 00:52:26.539
Definitely wasn't Diana. No, he reworked Candle

00:52:26.539 --> 00:52:29.420
in the Wind. Hey there, slapmets. It's time for

00:52:29.420 --> 00:52:34.539
the Creeps Music News. Hey, my little pumpkin

00:52:34.539 --> 00:52:37.260
seeds, this is Johnny Rohypnol with your music

00:52:37.260 --> 00:52:41.139
news. In music news, Billy Joel has a brain disorder

00:52:41.139 --> 00:52:44.480
and has canceled his tour. Joel, 76, was diagnosed

00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:47.860
with normal pressure hydrocephalus, which affects

00:52:47.860 --> 00:52:49.780
his vision, hearing, and balance. According to

00:52:49.780 --> 00:52:52.599
Yale Medicine, it is a rare condition. The singer

00:52:52.599 --> 00:52:55.119
-songwriter took to social media to share a statement

00:52:55.119 --> 00:52:57.800
with his fans. This condition has been exacerbated

00:52:57.800 --> 00:53:00.360
by recent concert performances, leading to problems

00:53:00.360 --> 00:53:03.150
with hearing, vision, and balance, it read. Under

00:53:03.150 --> 00:53:05.289
his doctor's instructions, Billy is undergoing

00:53:05.289 --> 00:53:08.110
specific physical therapies and has been advised

00:53:08.110 --> 00:53:10.070
to refrain from performing during his recovery

00:53:10.070 --> 00:53:12.610
period. Billy is thankful for the excellent care

00:53:12.610 --> 00:53:15.530
he is receiving and is fully committed to prioritizing

00:53:15.530 --> 00:53:18.730
his health. The documentary Ozzy Osbourne No

00:53:18.730 --> 00:53:21.769
Escape From Now is coming to Paramount Plus later

00:53:21.769 --> 00:53:24.070
this year. It offers a personal look at Ozzy

00:53:24.070 --> 00:53:26.150
Osbourne's life, his health challenges, and his

00:53:26.150 --> 00:53:28.510
journey to potentially perform one last time.

00:53:28.730 --> 00:53:31.650
The film explores his recent struggles including

00:53:31.650 --> 00:53:34.710
the impact of a 2019 fall and his Parkinson's

00:53:34.710 --> 00:53:37.530
diagnosis, while also showcasing his resilience

00:53:37.530 --> 00:53:40.570
and sense of humor. Happy birthday to Claus Maynard,

00:53:40.630 --> 00:53:43.309
the Scorpion's lead vocalist, turned 77 on May

00:53:43.309 --> 00:53:46.389
25th. He will celebrate at the Chernobyl Water

00:53:46.389 --> 00:53:48.989
Park. Stevie makes a fleet with Mack, turned

00:53:48.989 --> 00:53:52.329
77. However, her nasal cabbies turned 300 on

00:53:52.329 --> 00:53:56.590
May 26th. Lenny Kravitz turned 61 on May 26th

00:53:56.590 --> 00:53:59.489
as well. He still looks cool. John Foverty of

00:53:59.489 --> 00:54:03.210
CCR turns 80. Too bad he doesn't know it. Blaze

00:54:03.210 --> 00:54:07.829
Bailey turns... Ah, who gives a shit? No Gallagher

00:54:07.829 --> 00:54:12.010
turns... Ah, forget that. Guitarist Tom Morella

00:54:12.010 --> 00:54:15.530
turned 61 on May 30th. He might just rage with

00:54:15.530 --> 00:54:19.570
some audio. Next. And finally, John Bonham would

00:54:19.570 --> 00:54:22.230
have turned 77 on May 30th. Well, at least he

00:54:22.230 --> 00:54:26.610
had fun for 32 years. That is your music news.

00:54:26.690 --> 00:54:30.750
Gotta get the fuck out of here. Yeah, yeah. Okay,

00:54:30.809 --> 00:54:32.929
maybe it wasn't for somebody. I thought it was.

00:54:33.349 --> 00:54:37.230
Anyhow. I don't know if it was. Anyhow, it doesn't

00:54:37.230 --> 00:54:39.130
matter. I mean, that's what I thought, and I

00:54:39.130 --> 00:54:42.530
probably... Oh, jeez. Holy crap, that was a piece

00:54:42.530 --> 00:54:44.510
of paper hitting the microphone. That was John

00:54:44.510 --> 00:54:46.570
Lennon saying, no, it wasn't about me. Yeah.

00:54:47.510 --> 00:54:49.829
Should we edit that part out or just scare the

00:54:49.829 --> 00:54:51.110
hell out of everybody? No, leave it. Scare the

00:54:51.110 --> 00:54:52.710
hell out of everybody. Scare the shit out of

00:54:52.710 --> 00:54:56.019
me. A little poo came out. Damn. That was rather

00:54:56.019 --> 00:54:59.179
brutal. Yeah. All right. My next one is Flea

00:54:59.179 --> 00:55:03.739
and Chad Smith. Oh, yeah. Nice. My favorite Flea

00:55:03.739 --> 00:55:08.360
story is that when he's writing new material,

00:55:08.500 --> 00:55:12.679
he doesn't pick up the bass and play. He sings

00:55:12.679 --> 00:55:16.440
his bass part because he says, I can be way more

00:55:16.440 --> 00:55:20.469
creative singing it than I can playing it. So

00:55:20.469 --> 00:55:23.050
I record myself singing the potential bass part,

00:55:23.130 --> 00:55:25.670
and then I go back and learn what I've sung.

00:55:26.610 --> 00:55:28.829
And he said, I come up with stuff that I never

00:55:28.829 --> 00:55:30.530
would have come up with if I just had a bass

00:55:30.530 --> 00:55:32.630
in my hand. That is a great idea for songwriting,

00:55:32.670 --> 00:55:36.230
actually, isn't it? Yeah. And imagine a guitar

00:55:36.230 --> 00:55:38.510
player who's like, you know, thinking in his

00:55:38.510 --> 00:55:39.809
head all these things. Because if you're holding

00:55:39.809 --> 00:55:41.769
your guitar, you're thinking in terms of where

00:55:41.769 --> 00:55:43.570
fingers go where on the keyboard. Yeah, and this

00:55:43.570 --> 00:55:46.050
guy's like singing stuff. You can go anywhere

00:55:46.050 --> 00:55:50.469
with your voice. Yeah. Make great use of semitones.

00:55:50.570 --> 00:55:55.829
Oh, no, no thank you. Anyways. Yeah, I forgot

00:55:55.829 --> 00:55:57.849
the guitarist. One of them was Dave Navarro,

00:55:57.849 --> 00:56:00.570
but that, like, didn't end well. John Frusciante.

00:56:00.710 --> 00:56:03.750
Yeah, yeah. He dropped out to embrace heroin

00:56:03.750 --> 00:56:06.130
and then came back. He embraced it well and then

00:56:06.130 --> 00:56:10.449
he came back. Yeah, the Dave Navarro years were

00:56:10.449 --> 00:56:13.769
kind of a bust, really. Yeah. Yeah, I mean. He

00:56:13.769 --> 00:56:16.590
was Jane's Addiction, was that it? Yeah. Yeah,

00:56:16.590 --> 00:56:19.050
yeah. It's weird. Guitar players join Red Hot

00:56:19.050 --> 00:56:21.989
Chili Peppers and then get clean. Yeah. Is that

00:56:21.989 --> 00:56:24.449
funny? Because Dave Navarro had, like, the world's

00:56:24.449 --> 00:56:26.989
scariest drug problem. Oh, God, yeah. But then

00:56:26.989 --> 00:56:28.969
he got clean, and now he does, you know, tattoo

00:56:28.969 --> 00:56:32.230
reality shows. Yeah, I know. So, I mean, that

00:56:32.230 --> 00:56:34.110
dude should have been dead 20 years ago like

00:56:34.110 --> 00:56:36.730
Nikki Sixx, you know? Yeah. Yeah, Nikki Sixx

00:56:36.730 --> 00:56:39.190
actually did die. Yeah. So, I mean, but, yeah.

00:56:40.389 --> 00:56:44.300
Luckily, that lady. Said no one dies in my fucking

00:56:44.300 --> 00:56:48.199
ambulance. Yeah. You ain't breaking my record.

00:56:48.360 --> 00:56:50.340
And that's why she hit him with adrenaline right

00:56:50.340 --> 00:56:53.420
in the heart. Yeah. And that's where the song

00:56:53.420 --> 00:56:57.599
Kickstart My Heart was written about. Makes sense.

00:56:57.860 --> 00:57:02.920
Yep. All right, your turn. I'm kind of out. Okay,

00:57:02.980 --> 00:57:08.719
I've got two more. Roger Taylor and John Deacon.

00:57:10.349 --> 00:57:13.289
Queen. Yeah, of Queen. Yeah, sorry. Definitely.

00:57:13.670 --> 00:57:19.750
Yeah. They were an interesting duo. Roger Taylor,

00:57:19.969 --> 00:57:21.630
I would say, was probably the more talented.

00:57:22.989 --> 00:57:25.610
Yeah. I like John Deacon. You know what? That's

00:57:25.610 --> 00:57:30.090
not fair. John Deacon was very good, too. Yeah,

00:57:30.090 --> 00:57:32.909
that's true. It's tough to choose between them.

00:57:32.969 --> 00:57:37.010
John Deacon was not as committed. No, no. Roger

00:57:37.010 --> 00:57:40.260
Taylor was all in his own. Yeah. Definitely more

00:57:40.260 --> 00:57:45.039
prolific, better singer, of course. Yeah. I just

00:57:45.039 --> 00:57:47.599
liked it. They did their own thing. I mean, it

00:57:47.599 --> 00:57:50.739
didn't matter what type of song it was because

00:57:50.739 --> 00:57:54.679
Brian May and Freddie Mercury came at it from

00:57:54.679 --> 00:57:56.980
different angles all the time. They sure did.

00:57:57.139 --> 00:57:59.920
Yeah, and, you know, Freddie Mercury's throwing

00:57:59.920 --> 00:58:02.920
rock opera at him and Roger Taylor, or Brian

00:58:02.920 --> 00:58:06.969
May is hitting, like, fucking... Tony Iommi shit.

00:58:07.110 --> 00:58:11.230
Yeah. And the marriage of them two is what made

00:58:11.230 --> 00:58:14.090
them so good. Yeah. Yeah, it's like in Styx.

00:58:14.250 --> 00:58:16.190
Yeah, Styx actually. You had Dennis DeYoung who

00:58:16.190 --> 00:58:18.730
wanted to go, you know, operatic and keyboards

00:58:18.730 --> 00:58:20.909
and stuff. And then you had Tommy Shaw. Well,

00:58:21.010 --> 00:58:22.730
there's a rocker. And James Young is like, no,

00:58:22.869 --> 00:58:25.849
we want some power chords. Yeah. REO Speedwagon.

00:58:26.509 --> 00:58:28.710
Kevin Cronin was always trying to work piano

00:58:28.710 --> 00:58:30.969
in there, and Gary Richrath was cranking up his

00:58:30.969 --> 00:58:34.090
guitar amp. He's like, nah, we need to rock this

00:58:34.090 --> 00:58:37.369
sucker. And the thing is, they hated each other

00:58:37.369 --> 00:58:44.929
for their music style. They hated. But they eventually

00:58:44.929 --> 00:58:47.230
settled on something really unique, and that's

00:58:47.230 --> 00:58:49.469
what made them so good. I mean, look what Queen

00:58:49.469 --> 00:58:52.349
did. They had a little bit of everything. Make

00:58:52.349 --> 00:58:55.159
it work. And then my last one is Nico McBrain

00:58:55.159 --> 00:58:58.460
and Steve Harris. Oh, yeah. I love Nico. Oh,

00:58:58.460 --> 00:59:00.440
Nico is incredible. I don't know whether it was

00:59:00.440 --> 00:59:03.320
Nico or Nico. I've heard him called both. I just

00:59:03.320 --> 00:59:05.960
prefer to call him Nico. Yeah. Because when I

00:59:05.960 --> 00:59:08.360
went to Rock and Roll Ribs, he owns that in Florida,

00:59:08.559 --> 00:59:13.119
they pronounced it Nico. Okay. Because when I

00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:16.139
say N -I -C -K -O, I think Nico. I missed him

00:59:16.139 --> 00:59:21.579
by one day. He retired. But Rock and Roll Ribs,

00:59:21.579 --> 00:59:24.079
every Saturday, he came down there and played

00:59:24.079 --> 00:59:27.659
whenever we went on tour in Iron Maiden cover

00:59:27.659 --> 00:59:32.059
band. Nice. And he always said, I'm here until

00:59:32.059 --> 00:59:35.719
the beer runs out. As soon as the beer ran out,

00:59:35.760 --> 00:59:38.820
he was gone. But I missed him by one day. This

00:59:38.820 --> 00:59:41.639
is for work, so I couldn't really change it.

00:59:41.940 --> 00:59:45.380
The plane was already set for the next day. And

00:59:45.380 --> 00:59:47.219
I couldn't do anything about it. I mean, you

00:59:47.219 --> 00:59:49.519
know, I could have paid for my own one back and

00:59:49.519 --> 00:59:51.539
just forgot that one. But it's like, no, I don't

00:59:51.539 --> 00:59:55.039
want to see him in person that bad. And I'm pretty

00:59:55.039 --> 00:59:57.280
sure that place probably filled up really big

00:59:57.280 --> 01:00:00.159
time. I imagine. Ribs weren't that good. Food

01:00:00.159 --> 01:00:02.920
wasn't that good. But it's who you were coming

01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:05.280
to see. Well, and also the memorabilia on the

01:00:05.280 --> 01:00:08.780
wall. Oh, yeah. It was amazing. Yeah. Like Paul

01:00:08.780 --> 01:00:13.280
Rogers. signed guitar. It was his guitar. I forgot

01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.360
that he played guitar until I read that. He played

01:00:15.360 --> 01:00:19.519
guitar, too. There was a little restaurant on

01:00:19.519 --> 01:00:22.079
Beale Street the one time I was there. Cindy

01:00:22.079 --> 01:00:24.440
and I stopped in to eat, and there was a bass

01:00:24.440 --> 01:00:26.860
guitar on the wall that belonged to John Entwistle.

01:00:27.139 --> 01:00:30.340
Oh, wow. The Ox. The Ox. And there was a picture

01:00:30.340 --> 01:00:32.860
next to it showing him playing that exact bass.

01:00:32.900 --> 01:00:35.760
I think it was the Firebird bass. and playing

01:00:35.760 --> 01:00:38.679
that on stage with The Who, and there it was

01:00:38.679 --> 01:00:42.239
in this restaurant in Memphis on Beale Street.

01:00:42.539 --> 01:00:44.460
That's cool. That's pretty amazing. I always

01:00:44.460 --> 01:00:50.619
wondered, there was like a whole guitar and set

01:00:50.619 --> 01:00:53.239
of strings that Jimmy Page used to record Whole

01:00:53.239 --> 01:00:56.320
Lotta Love. Uh -huh. Where is that guitar? When

01:00:56.320 --> 01:00:58.079
they changed the strings, did they save those

01:00:58.079 --> 01:00:59.840
strings? I'd love to know where those actual

01:00:59.840 --> 01:01:03.239
exact guitar strings were. I don't know, some

01:01:03.239 --> 01:01:04.119
of that stuff wasn't even thought of. Make a

01:01:04.119 --> 01:01:05.440
bracelet out of them or something. They had no

01:01:05.440 --> 01:01:07.519
idea what they had on their hands. Like the drum

01:01:07.519 --> 01:01:09.519
heads that were on the drums when they recorded

01:01:09.519 --> 01:01:12.719
some iconic drum track, you know? They got rid

01:01:12.719 --> 01:01:15.179
of those at some point and said, here, where

01:01:15.179 --> 01:01:17.860
are the cymbals that they used? You don't throw

01:01:17.860 --> 01:01:21.139
those away. I want to know where all this authentic...

01:01:21.630 --> 01:01:23.630
equipment is that we use to record all the hits.

01:01:23.710 --> 01:01:25.929
Some collectors got them probably. There's a

01:01:25.929 --> 01:01:29.590
collector at Lake of the Ozarks. The resort at

01:01:29.590 --> 01:01:32.030
Lake of the Ozarks is a resort, but you can go

01:01:32.030 --> 01:01:35.389
to the place. The Encore is the name of the bar,

01:01:35.590 --> 01:01:40.590
and it's a pool bar, and they play bands like

01:01:40.590 --> 01:01:42.190
Molly Hatchet played there a couple years ago.

01:01:42.210 --> 01:01:44.670
Oh, cool. Yeah, and you sit in a pool, and it's

01:01:44.670 --> 01:01:48.369
a swim -up bar, and anyhow, inside there, the

01:01:48.369 --> 01:01:52.599
guy has a Beatles signed trivia collection and

01:01:52.599 --> 01:01:55.420
a bunch of other bands, classic rock bands. We

01:01:55.420 --> 01:01:58.179
actually met the owner while we were there. And

01:01:58.179 --> 01:02:01.460
we're watching the Chiefs game because we're

01:02:01.460 --> 01:02:04.119
getting back to the Sunday night game. And this

01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:07.159
is when we're gonna go watch Glenn Hughes and

01:02:07.159 --> 01:02:11.800
Jefferson Starship play at the Sedalia grounds.

01:02:13.130 --> 01:02:15.210
It was like, I forgot what they call it, like

01:02:15.210 --> 01:02:17.510
Ozark Fest or something like that. And we're

01:02:17.510 --> 01:02:19.070
going to go watch them, and it was canceled because

01:02:19.070 --> 01:02:22.369
of rain the night before. It was too muddy. So

01:02:22.369 --> 01:02:25.650
we ended up going, and we ran out of time coming

01:02:25.650 --> 01:02:28.030
back to Sedalia. We went to Lake of Ozarks to

01:02:28.030 --> 01:02:30.949
look for Val's old lake house when she was a

01:02:30.949 --> 01:02:33.369
child. Oh, cool. Well, we found it because there's

01:02:33.369 --> 01:02:36.110
a bunch of condos in front of it now, or behind

01:02:36.110 --> 01:02:39.170
it. So we're coming back. It's starting to get

01:02:39.170 --> 01:02:40.889
dark, and the Chiefs game was coming on. So we

01:02:40.889 --> 01:02:43.530
got a place there. And we went into the encore,

01:02:43.789 --> 01:02:47.070
and the owner, we're playing the Atlanta Falcons

01:02:47.070 --> 01:02:50.130
at the Sunday night game, and the owner had a,

01:02:50.130 --> 01:02:56.570
not a microphone, a shoot, shoot, shoot. Megaphone?

01:02:57.269 --> 01:03:00.650
Megaphone. A really loud police -style megaphone.

01:03:00.670 --> 01:03:02.869
Great. And there were some Atlanta fans in there,

01:03:02.929 --> 01:03:05.269
and every time we scored, he would scream out.

01:03:05.679 --> 01:03:10.019
And the Chiefs score. They ended up leaving,

01:03:10.039 --> 01:03:12.019
and they were paying customers. He didn't care.

01:03:12.239 --> 01:03:15.019
But that guy right there, if you go in the Encore,

01:03:15.039 --> 01:03:17.300
you don't have to get a room there. You can go

01:03:17.300 --> 01:03:19.559
into the Encore and get dinner or something.

01:03:20.000 --> 01:03:24.039
It's a sports bar. When you go to the bathroom,

01:03:24.139 --> 01:03:27.239
they have a ton of memorabilia signed up there.

01:03:27.380 --> 01:03:29.719
Wow. Yeah, that guy, whatever his name is, has

01:03:29.719 --> 01:03:31.940
a hell of a collection. And I talked to him.

01:03:31.940 --> 01:03:33.420
I go, did you get all that? And he goes, yeah.

01:03:33.559 --> 01:03:35.639
And he started naming off where he got this and

01:03:35.639 --> 01:03:38.059
that and this. Must take a while. And then you've

01:03:38.059 --> 01:03:40.780
got to verify it all. It's all verified. Yeah,

01:03:40.780 --> 01:03:44.420
it's all scanned. Behind glass. Yeah. Yeah, it's

01:03:44.420 --> 01:03:47.059
very cool. So, hey, Hal, you got something you

01:03:47.059 --> 01:03:50.019
want to go into? I've got a couple of few things.

01:03:50.780 --> 01:03:53.679
I've got an Alice Cooper, Elvis Presley story.

01:03:53.960 --> 01:03:57.059
Okay. I've got the story about Ringo Starr and

01:03:57.059 --> 01:04:02.500
the four -piece drum kit. Okay. And then I've

01:04:02.500 --> 01:04:05.280
got some more information about the Who firing

01:04:05.280 --> 01:04:08.900
their drummer for the second time. Okay. Okay.

01:04:09.139 --> 01:04:13.139
Let me tell you the Alice and Elvis story. This

01:04:13.139 --> 01:04:15.760
is one Alice told on a show the other day. I

01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:18.840
saw a video of it. He claims this happened in

01:04:18.840 --> 01:04:23.760
1970. Okay. that he was at a hotel and the band

01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.380
had played. And in the same hotel, Elvis Presley

01:04:26.380 --> 01:04:29.900
was staying. And he got an invitation to go up

01:04:29.900 --> 01:04:34.280
to Elvis' suite and meet Elvis. And we got on

01:04:34.280 --> 01:04:36.360
the elevator. Who was in the elevator with him

01:04:36.360 --> 01:04:41.179
but legendary guitarist Chuck Berry. Famous at

01:04:41.179 --> 01:04:46.219
the time actress Liza Minnelli. one of the very

01:04:46.219 --> 01:04:49.219
first porn stars ever, Linda Lovelace of Deep

01:04:49.219 --> 01:04:52.599
Throat. What an interesting elevator. Yeah. Now,

01:04:52.780 --> 01:04:55.960
Deep Throat didn't come out until 72, so this

01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.719
couldn't have been 1970. So it was probably 1974

01:04:58.719 --> 01:05:01.599
when this actually happened, but Al's got the

01:05:01.599 --> 01:05:04.460
dates wrong. So anyway, Alvis is riding up there

01:05:04.460 --> 01:05:07.260
with this porn star and actress and a guitar

01:05:07.260 --> 01:05:08.880
player. He's like, it's interesting, there's

01:05:08.880 --> 01:05:12.659
four of us going up there to his suite. I think

01:05:12.659 --> 01:05:14.300
only three of us are going to be riding this

01:05:14.300 --> 01:05:16.300
elevator down tonight. I wonder which one of

01:05:16.300 --> 01:05:19.500
us is going to be staying upstairs tonight. So

01:05:19.500 --> 01:05:21.300
he got there, and they caught him in the elevator,

01:05:21.480 --> 01:05:23.559
and they said everyone was frisked for weapons,

01:05:23.739 --> 01:05:26.059
which was weird because there were loaded guns

01:05:26.059 --> 01:05:28.539
lying around everywhere. So this was somebody's

01:05:28.539 --> 01:05:30.699
suite, but they were invited to a party? It was

01:05:30.699 --> 01:05:33.780
Elvis' suite. Okay. And Elvis wanted to meet

01:05:33.780 --> 01:05:36.039
them. He said, come on up. to my suite let's

01:05:36.039 --> 01:05:38.539
party okay and he came up to alice and he said

01:05:38.539 --> 01:05:40.219
you're that you're that fellow with the snake

01:05:40.219 --> 01:05:42.539
right he said yeah yeah i said man that's a great

01:05:42.539 --> 01:05:44.579
gimmick i wish i'd thought of that that snake's

01:05:44.579 --> 01:05:48.159
awesome elvis yeah okay he thought the snake

01:05:48.159 --> 01:05:52.500
gimmick was really cool okay well he knew that

01:05:52.500 --> 01:05:54.739
it was just a stage gimmick what they were telling

01:05:54.739 --> 01:05:57.599
people at the time was it was alice's pet yeah

01:05:57.599 --> 01:05:59.119
he didn't want to leave it at home when they

01:05:59.119 --> 01:06:02.760
went on tour so yeah it was Anyway, so Elvis

01:06:02.760 --> 01:06:04.519
said, hey, come here, let me show you something.

01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:06.619
So he dragged Alice in the next room, and he

01:06:06.619 --> 01:06:09.619
said, let me show you how to disarm an armed

01:06:09.619 --> 01:06:14.420
man. So he hands Alice a .32 revolver. And Alice

01:06:14.420 --> 01:06:17.460
is thinking, wow, if I shot Elvis, I'd be the

01:06:17.460 --> 01:06:19.400
most famous person in the world, wouldn't I?

01:06:19.699 --> 01:06:23.780
Maybe I could just wound him. Shoot him in the

01:06:23.780 --> 01:06:26.280
leg or something. But he said the next thing

01:06:26.280 --> 01:06:28.420
he remembers, he's on the floor, the gun's out

01:06:28.420 --> 01:06:30.239
of his hand, and Elvis has got his foot on his

01:06:30.239 --> 01:06:32.900
neck. He's like, see there, that's how you get

01:06:32.900 --> 01:06:35.199
a gun away from a guy. And he's like, Frank Falmouth.

01:06:38.079 --> 01:06:42.500
Elvis was bizarre. Elvis was weird. And he said

01:06:42.500 --> 01:06:45.000
later that night, he was right. Only three of

01:06:45.000 --> 01:06:47.199
them went down the elevator. And one of them

01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:49.780
stayed upstairs. And he said he often wondered

01:06:49.780 --> 01:06:52.239
what it was that Elvis and Chuck Berry did all

01:06:52.239 --> 01:07:00.929
night. Typical Alice Cooper story. Yes, typical.

01:07:01.409 --> 01:07:05.269
It's like a shaggy dog story. I miss his radio

01:07:05.269 --> 01:07:08.489
show. Yeah. Oh, I wished he would do it again.

01:07:10.070 --> 01:07:12.969
Well, I mean, it was canceled, but he had offers

01:07:12.969 --> 01:07:15.710
to do it again, and he never did. I imagine it

01:07:15.710 --> 01:07:18.449
was a big time commitment. Yeah, too much. Probably

01:07:18.449 --> 01:07:21.349
too much to handle. Because he used to do remotes

01:07:21.349 --> 01:07:24.010
touring. I'm sure that was a pain in the ass.

01:07:25.799 --> 01:07:29.239
Yeah, he told so many stories on there. It was

01:07:29.239 --> 01:07:31.360
just so good. And he played great music, too.

01:07:31.599 --> 01:07:34.219
I imagine those shows are probably syndicated,

01:07:34.219 --> 01:07:36.619
so they're still playing in reruns, and you can

01:07:36.619 --> 01:07:38.380
be still getting paid for it. Well, you can go

01:07:38.380 --> 01:07:40.280
to YouTube and get every show he's ever done.

01:07:40.440 --> 01:07:44.739
That's awesome. I've got one here, if you've

01:07:44.739 --> 01:07:47.760
got a minute. Sure. All right. This is, I watched

01:07:47.760 --> 01:07:53.219
the Richie Blackmore documentary, and to my surprise,

01:07:53.769 --> 01:07:55.750
It was an interview with Richie Blackmore with

01:07:55.750 --> 01:07:58.750
excerpts of everything. It was a guy asking him

01:07:58.750 --> 01:08:00.969
questions and him answering them honestly, it

01:08:00.969 --> 01:08:03.389
looked like. That's nice that he's actually participating

01:08:03.389 --> 01:08:06.250
instead of just having to do it around him. Well,

01:08:06.349 --> 01:08:09.150
I got kind of a different view of him after that.

01:08:10.190 --> 01:08:14.210
He doesn't suffer idiots. I imagine not. No.

01:08:14.789 --> 01:08:17.939
People call him Moody. Don't be a dumbass around

01:08:17.939 --> 01:08:20.779
him, and you won't be. Well, I mean, I'm sure

01:08:20.779 --> 01:08:23.880
he was moody as a perfectionist. Most perfectionists

01:08:23.880 --> 01:08:26.420
are very moody. You know, you come in and go,

01:08:26.520 --> 01:08:29.359
what's going on? You're screwing it up. Yeah,

01:08:29.399 --> 01:08:34.520
fuck it. So, anyhow, one of the things, one of

01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:36.420
the key things on there when they started off

01:08:36.420 --> 01:08:40.020
was England guitar stores in the 70s had noted...

01:08:40.279 --> 01:08:42.819
had notes put up on their wall that said, please

01:08:42.819 --> 01:08:45.279
do not play smoke on the water. If you do, you'll

01:08:45.279 --> 01:08:49.520
be removed. Yeah. Richie was convinced he had

01:08:49.520 --> 01:08:52.840
a haunted clock. When his music, if he liked

01:08:52.840 --> 01:08:56.500
the music, he would make a different tone than

01:08:56.500 --> 01:09:02.739
if he hated the music. Huh. Yeah. Yeah. Purple

01:09:02.739 --> 01:09:06.060
was recorded in Worcester, Worcester, whatever,

01:09:06.359 --> 01:09:10.940
medieval castle. He was a huge prankster. Richie,

01:09:10.940 --> 01:09:13.899
I know, he did a lot of pranksters. He was going

01:09:13.899 --> 01:09:16.340
to carry around a squirt gun and have it hid

01:09:16.340 --> 01:09:18.199
in his pocket. Whenever someone would turn around,

01:09:18.279 --> 01:09:19.880
he'd bap them real quick. And then they'd turn

01:09:19.880 --> 01:09:24.420
around and he'd just be standing there. So Richie

01:09:24.420 --> 01:09:26.859
and a couple of techs had a trap door on the

01:09:26.859 --> 01:09:29.199
floor underneath Tony Ashton's bedroom. He was

01:09:29.199 --> 01:09:32.000
a friend of one of the techs, Tony Ashton. They

01:09:32.000 --> 01:09:34.359
put a Marshall amp in the space and closed the

01:09:34.359 --> 01:09:37.220
door. The wiring, the Marshall amp in the space

01:09:37.220 --> 01:09:40.220
in the closed door, the wiring was going through

01:09:40.220 --> 01:09:43.520
the floor and the walls. And I guess Richie spent

01:09:43.520 --> 01:09:45.920
hours wiring it up. That's how much of a prankster

01:09:45.920 --> 01:09:48.859
he was. He did it himself. So later that night,

01:09:48.960 --> 01:09:51.880
Richie started scratching in a vague eerie voice

01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:56.960
and chanting, let me out. Let me out. Tony ran

01:09:56.960 --> 01:09:59.100
out and never came back. Nobody seen him again.

01:09:59.319 --> 01:10:06.579
He was gone. Tony Ashton disappeared. In Germany,

01:10:06.739 --> 01:10:09.039
Purple was playing a show when Richie noticed

01:10:09.039 --> 01:10:11.260
a small lady making her way to the crowd to hand

01:10:11.260 --> 01:10:14.239
a note to a band member. She told him how she

01:10:14.239 --> 01:10:16.899
loved the band. A bouncer smacked her in the

01:10:16.899 --> 01:10:20.199
back with a club. Richie was infuriated and he

01:10:20.199 --> 01:10:22.060
kicked the bouncer in the face, breaking his

01:10:22.060 --> 01:10:24.920
jaw. The German police were coming to arrest

01:10:24.920 --> 01:10:27.399
him, so the crew hid him inside one of the amp

01:10:27.399 --> 01:10:31.779
cases. That's awesome. One of the rolling cases.

01:10:32.610 --> 01:10:34.890
And they got him out of there. But then they

01:10:34.890 --> 01:10:36.649
went to the hotel and arrested him when they're

01:10:36.649 --> 01:10:38.789
getting ready to go to the airport to leave.

01:10:40.770 --> 01:10:42.930
Richie had the U .S. consulate try to intervene

01:10:42.930 --> 01:10:44.449
because they're talking about locking him up

01:10:44.449 --> 01:10:47.510
for years. And the consulate wouldn't do anything.

01:10:47.609 --> 01:10:49.609
He said they're pretty much worthless. They didn't

01:10:49.609 --> 01:10:52.130
do anything. And I don't know why as a U .S.

01:10:52.149 --> 01:10:54.390
consulate. Was he a citizen at that time maybe?

01:10:55.409 --> 01:10:58.909
I don't know. Maybe there wasn't a British consulate,

01:10:58.930 --> 01:11:00.989
so the U .S. consulate stood in? That could have

01:11:00.989 --> 01:11:03.170
been. Okay. It didn't really explain that, so

01:11:03.170 --> 01:11:06.750
anyhow. So the Germans stood firm on there. It's

01:11:06.750 --> 01:11:09.329
going to keep them there for like ever. And they

01:11:09.329 --> 01:11:11.989
made them lay on the ground for hours, and they

01:11:11.989 --> 01:11:13.909
occasionally gave them a little smack here and

01:11:13.909 --> 01:11:16.229
there. They treated them very bad. And after

01:11:16.229 --> 01:11:18.170
a couple of weeks, they let them out, but they

01:11:18.170 --> 01:11:21.430
loved scaring the hell out of them. Yeah. Yikes.

01:11:21.569 --> 01:11:24.850
There was a lot more other incidents. I didn't

01:11:24.850 --> 01:11:26.750
want to, like, just go into the whole thing.

01:11:26.989 --> 01:11:29.829
Yeah. You were talking about the final fight

01:11:29.829 --> 01:11:31.869
between him and Ian Gillen and what broke him

01:11:31.869 --> 01:11:33.789
up for good and why he was out of the band for

01:11:33.789 --> 01:11:38.310
good after that. Yeah. Evidently, Richie had

01:11:38.310 --> 01:11:42.770
ordered pasta at a restaurant, and Ian Gillen

01:11:42.770 --> 01:11:45.550
intercepted the pasta with a waiter and poured

01:11:45.550 --> 01:11:50.329
ketchup all over it. And, of course, Richie Blackmore

01:11:50.329 --> 01:11:53.170
went over there and gave him a good smack in

01:11:53.170 --> 01:11:57.350
the face. And that started the final fight. And

01:11:57.350 --> 01:12:00.210
then after that, there was no more of Mach 1,

01:12:00.210 --> 01:12:04.170
2. No, Mach 2. Mach 1 was Dennis, Dave Evans,

01:12:04.350 --> 01:12:08.069
or something like that. Something Evans. Mike

01:12:08.069 --> 01:12:10.170
Evans or something like that, the original singer.

01:12:11.250 --> 01:12:14.630
So there was no more Mach 2. That was it. Well,

01:12:14.649 --> 01:12:16.850
you know, if you're going to be a prankster like

01:12:16.850 --> 01:12:19.029
Richie, you've got to expect pranks to be played

01:12:19.029 --> 01:12:22.890
on you. He didn't appreciate it. He guessed,

01:12:22.970 --> 01:12:24.829
you know, maybe that was just the wrong day to

01:12:24.829 --> 01:12:26.989
pull that particular prank on him. I don't know.

01:12:27.090 --> 01:12:29.470
Well, okay, pranks are great and everything,

01:12:29.609 --> 01:12:31.310
but, you know, sometimes when you come to someone

01:12:31.310 --> 01:12:34.550
and they're hungry and their food's coming and

01:12:34.550 --> 01:12:36.729
then someone ketchups it, that could piss you

01:12:36.729 --> 01:12:38.829
off pretty bad. Like, you motherfucker, I was

01:12:38.829 --> 01:12:40.930
starving, you know. Food's a pretty basic need.

01:12:41.109 --> 01:12:42.949
Yeah, it is. I can see that being a trigger.

01:12:42.970 --> 01:12:44.949
And that could really irritate somebody. So I

01:12:44.949 --> 01:12:48.029
can see that being like, oh, no, that was it.

01:12:48.149 --> 01:12:50.130
You know, I already didn't like it. We're already...

01:12:50.430 --> 01:12:53.350
They're always bickering. Yeah. And by that time,

01:12:53.369 --> 01:12:54.970
he was like, all right, fuck this. I don't care

01:12:54.970 --> 01:12:56.850
what happens. I'm going to go try to beat the

01:12:56.850 --> 01:13:01.649
guy up. So he didn't say who won. Yeah. Everybody

01:13:01.649 --> 01:13:05.729
lost. Yeah. Yep. Well, I don't know. They really

01:13:05.729 --> 01:13:08.109
liked Steve Morse a lot. So if you ask them,

01:13:08.149 --> 01:13:11.489
they didn't lose. That's true. That's true. And

01:13:11.489 --> 01:13:14.630
now I forgot who's in the band now. Steve Morse

01:13:14.630 --> 01:13:17.109
had to take care of his mom or something? Because

01:13:17.109 --> 01:13:19.149
he's quite a bit younger than the other bandmates.

01:13:21.130 --> 01:13:22.789
God, I can't think of the guy's name. He's really

01:13:22.789 --> 01:13:26.069
good, though. Eddie. We'll look it up. All right.

01:13:26.850 --> 01:13:29.489
Nah, I don't even care that much. Okay. Go ahead.

01:13:30.210 --> 01:13:32.250
Well, I had an example in the music industry

01:13:32.250 --> 01:13:35.710
of the tail wagging the dog. Okay. When the Beatles

01:13:35.710 --> 01:13:40.670
became enormous, Ringo Starr was playing a four

01:13:40.670 --> 01:13:44.649
-piece Ludwig kit with the Oyster Pearl covering.

01:13:45.409 --> 01:13:48.289
And suddenly just about everybody who thought

01:13:48.289 --> 01:13:50.890
about playing drums wanted a kit just like that.

01:13:51.170 --> 01:13:56.109
Four -piece Ludwig Oyster Pearl. So Ludwig was

01:13:56.109 --> 01:13:57.770
selling a billion of them and really enjoying

01:13:57.770 --> 01:14:00.689
their endorsement deal with Ringo. And after

01:14:00.689 --> 01:14:03.989
a year or two, they decided, you know what? We'd

01:14:03.989 --> 01:14:06.369
like to sell more five -piece drum kits with

01:14:06.369 --> 01:14:10.750
an extra rack tom. So they had Ringo start playing

01:14:10.750 --> 01:14:13.829
one live, even though he didn't use that extra

01:14:13.829 --> 01:14:15.899
rack tom. Just really didn't care that it was

01:14:15.899 --> 01:14:17.819
there. In fact, it moved his ride symbol too

01:14:17.819 --> 01:14:21.720
far away. But Ludwig said, no, we want to sell

01:14:21.720 --> 01:14:23.539
more five -piece kits, so you're going to start

01:14:23.539 --> 01:14:26.800
playing one. Isn't that weird? That is weird.

01:14:27.039 --> 01:14:28.960
Tail wagging the dog, for sure. I would think

01:14:28.960 --> 01:14:30.619
at that point Ringo would say, you know what?

01:14:30.800 --> 01:14:33.359
I think I'll go play Slingerland, or Rogers,

01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.859
or maybe Yamaha. By that time, he had enough

01:14:35.859 --> 01:14:40.159
clout. I would think. Maybe he was locked into

01:14:40.159 --> 01:14:42.619
a contract and couldn't bail. That's probably

01:14:42.619 --> 01:14:45.300
what it was. Yeah. It was probably in the writing

01:14:45.300 --> 01:14:48.859
somewhere. He's like, okay, I'm stuck. So you

01:14:48.859 --> 01:14:52.880
want to do the frontman? Yeah. The best frontman

01:14:52.880 --> 01:14:56.579
of all time. And not singer. Because a lot of

01:14:56.579 --> 01:14:59.340
these guys are not singers. But they're definitely

01:14:59.340 --> 01:15:02.340
frontmen. I kind of went with singers. Okay.

01:15:02.380 --> 01:15:04.399
I could try to throw in some non -singer frontmen.

01:15:04.640 --> 01:15:07.199
I left one guy out that I should have put on

01:15:07.199 --> 01:15:13.220
here. It was Ozzy. I've got Ozzy. Okay. Go ahead.

01:15:13.399 --> 01:15:16.439
Okay, my first up is David Lee Roth. Yeah, that's

01:15:16.439 --> 01:15:19.020
my first. But only in Van Halen. Yeah, not alone.

01:15:19.279 --> 01:15:24.319
Not his solo stuff. Just perfect for the time,

01:15:24.340 --> 01:15:26.699
the right amount of swagger. He had the looks.

01:15:26.859 --> 01:15:33.239
He was tall. Slender, acrobatic. Yeah, there's

01:15:33.239 --> 01:15:36.260
just, like, checked all the boxes. There was

01:15:36.260 --> 01:15:38.159
nothing more you could ask of him except maybe

01:15:38.159 --> 01:15:41.279
a little better vocal range. Yeah. He was a little

01:15:41.279 --> 01:15:43.859
limited there. He was. Other than that, man,

01:15:43.939 --> 01:15:46.100
he was just the perfect front man. Oh, I agree.

01:15:46.260 --> 01:15:48.380
He's just amazing. He's also my number one also,

01:15:48.479 --> 01:15:50.720
so we can cover this just like that. So, yeah,

01:15:50.760 --> 01:15:54.239
I agree with that 100%. Yeah. He did the kicks,

01:15:54.359 --> 01:15:57.859
the splits. All the little shrieky noises that

01:15:57.859 --> 01:16:01.239
were so entertaining. Got the women crazy. Yeah.

01:16:01.739 --> 01:16:05.180
Yeah, perfect lead singer at the perfect time.

01:16:05.319 --> 01:16:08.460
Absolutely. All right, go ahead. Next up, I had

01:16:08.460 --> 01:16:13.079
Ozzy. In Sabbath and solo. Yes. Either way, he's

01:16:13.079 --> 01:16:16.859
an awesome frontman. Okay, I'm going to go Ozzy

01:16:16.859 --> 01:16:19.140
number two also because I don't know why I forgot

01:16:19.140 --> 01:16:21.060
to put him in, but he's number two definitely.

01:16:22.859 --> 01:16:26.920
Next up I have Iggy Pop from the Stooges. Oh,

01:16:26.920 --> 01:16:30.600
I forgot about him. Yeah. He was in the news

01:16:30.600 --> 01:16:33.859
recently. I think he had kind of a medical issue

01:16:33.859 --> 01:16:38.159
on a tour, but dude is super skinny. Uh -huh.

01:16:38.460 --> 01:16:42.819
His skin kind of hangs off him in wrinkles. And

01:16:42.819 --> 01:16:46.880
he will beat the crap out of himself on stage

01:16:46.880 --> 01:16:50.340
for the entertainment. He'll dive into a pile

01:16:50.340 --> 01:16:52.859
of broken glass. He'll beat himself with things.

01:16:53.460 --> 01:16:56.060
If he doesn't get bloody during a performance,

01:16:56.239 --> 01:16:59.420
it's been an off night. He'll hurl himself into

01:16:59.420 --> 01:17:01.500
the crowd and they'll start throwing kicks and

01:17:01.500 --> 01:17:04.460
punches. The guy is just... He's into physical

01:17:04.460 --> 01:17:07.460
violence, mostly against himself. Yes. It's just

01:17:07.460 --> 01:17:10.779
fascinating to watch this guy. He's so amazing.

01:17:10.859 --> 01:17:14.140
I would agree 100%. Although I don't have him,

01:17:14.220 --> 01:17:16.220
I forgot about him. I left him out, but I would

01:17:16.220 --> 01:17:19.399
agree. Yeah, he was freaky. I mean, especially

01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:22.119
in his prime. He was something to watch on stage.

01:17:22.199 --> 01:17:26.060
Oh, he was insane. Yeah. My number three would

01:17:26.060 --> 01:17:29.939
be a young Vince Neal. Yeah, absolutely. He was

01:17:29.939 --> 01:17:32.359
fantastic. He was. He was another example of

01:17:32.359 --> 01:17:34.359
perfect for the time. Yeah, he was perfect for

01:17:34.359 --> 01:17:36.739
the time. He came, what, about two, three years

01:17:36.739 --> 01:17:39.140
after David Lee Roth? After David Lee Roth. Yeah.

01:17:39.220 --> 01:17:41.779
And he was widely known as the other David Lee

01:17:41.779 --> 01:17:44.140
Roth. Yeah, because they were both blond. Yeah,

01:17:44.140 --> 01:17:46.699
yeah. Both had awesome guitar players. Yeah,

01:17:46.840 --> 01:17:49.619
yep. Yeah, people don't realize Van Halen's first

01:17:49.619 --> 01:17:52.920
album came out, what, 78? They're a 70s band.

01:17:53.180 --> 01:17:55.560
That's why him and Tony Iommi were best friends.

01:17:56.250 --> 01:18:00.310
is because they supported Sabbath on their very

01:18:00.310 --> 01:18:03.550
first tour. Oh, yeah, I remember that. Boy, would

01:18:03.550 --> 01:18:05.430
that have been a nice concert to go to. Oh, my

01:18:05.430 --> 01:18:08.090
God, that would have been something. Yeah, wow.

01:18:08.149 --> 01:18:09.689
That would have been amazing. That would have

01:18:09.689 --> 01:18:13.449
been like an epic. I'm getting dive -bombed by

01:18:13.449 --> 01:18:15.270
birds lately. The other day I got on my back

01:18:15.270 --> 01:18:18.409
porch, and I sat down, and I felt the wing of

01:18:18.409 --> 01:18:20.829
a bird hit the top of my head. You must look

01:18:20.829 --> 01:18:23.630
like someone that kills birds or something. I

01:18:23.630 --> 01:18:25.779
guess. I used to hunt turkeys, but I never got

01:18:25.779 --> 01:18:28.939
one. There you guys go. We never killed one.

01:18:29.079 --> 01:18:32.180
There was a young and immature blue jay, and

01:18:32.180 --> 01:18:35.140
Mom and Dad were protecting it. And so the young

01:18:35.140 --> 01:18:37.159
blue jay was up sitting on the roof of my house,

01:18:37.180 --> 01:18:39.079
and Mom and Dad were dive -bombing me to get

01:18:39.079 --> 01:18:43.359
me to go back inside. And here at the market,

01:18:43.420 --> 01:18:45.659
I've been buzzed by about three pigeons so far.

01:18:45.819 --> 01:18:47.760
Whenever you see a cat running, usually it's

01:18:47.760 --> 01:18:49.720
blue jays. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because they'll

01:18:49.720 --> 01:18:52.159
peck the shit out of them. Blue jays are crows.

01:18:52.260 --> 01:18:53.779
They're very pretty crows, but they are crows.

01:18:53.779 --> 01:18:55.760
Yeah, but they're crows. I agree. They're absolutely

01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:00.010
crows. And noisy fucking crows. Yes. All right.

01:19:00.489 --> 01:19:04.470
My next was Alice Cooper in this original band

01:19:04.470 --> 01:19:07.630
and solo. I've got Alice Cooper also. He had

01:19:07.630 --> 01:19:10.029
kind of, I don't know if he invented the genre,

01:19:10.149 --> 01:19:13.369
but he certainly perfected it. And a lot of bands

01:19:13.369 --> 01:19:16.909
either copied him or used him as an example of,

01:19:17.029 --> 01:19:19.689
okay, he's got this, what could we do along the

01:19:19.689 --> 01:19:21.970
same lines? It's different. Kiss was like that

01:19:21.970 --> 01:19:24.710
way. They said, okay, Alice has got the eye makeup

01:19:24.710 --> 01:19:28.529
and the violence on stage and stuff. Why don't

01:19:28.529 --> 01:19:30.949
we do something along those same lines, but different?

01:19:31.029 --> 01:19:33.909
So let's go full face makeup, lots of fireworks,

01:19:34.149 --> 01:19:37.250
lots of explosions, lots of flame. So they were

01:19:37.250 --> 01:19:41.050
inspired by Alice, but different. Then you have

01:19:41.050 --> 01:19:43.010
Marilyn Manson, who basically just ripped off

01:19:43.010 --> 01:19:47.130
Alice Cooper for his stage show. The first concert

01:19:47.130 --> 01:19:50.449
I saw for Marilyn Manson on Portrait of an American

01:19:50.449 --> 01:19:54.060
Family, he was opening for Nine Inch Nails. That

01:19:54.060 --> 01:19:57.199
was an awesome show. That was a great show. But

01:19:57.199 --> 01:19:59.579
his whole stage show and the way he acted, he

01:19:59.579 --> 01:20:03.840
looked like an Alice Cooper from 1970, just like

01:20:03.840 --> 01:20:05.859
it. You know, Alice Cooper could have said someone

01:20:05.859 --> 01:20:08.399
ripped him off about a lot of people, but he

01:20:08.399 --> 01:20:10.800
did say Marilyn Manson ripped him off. He was

01:20:10.800 --> 01:20:14.060
very clear about that. And he said, I don't even

01:20:14.060 --> 01:20:16.079
mind, I just want him to admit it. Yeah, but

01:20:16.079 --> 01:20:17.739
he wouldn't admit it is what pissed him off.

01:20:19.680 --> 01:20:22.399
Oh, well, water under the bridge. Yeah, now they

01:20:22.399 --> 01:20:24.840
probably talk all the time. Who do you think?

01:20:25.260 --> 01:20:29.659
Robert Plant. Yes. Did I get Robert Plant? Yes.

01:20:30.039 --> 01:20:32.979
Only in Led Zeppelin. Yeah, yeah. His stuff with

01:20:32.979 --> 01:20:35.479
the honey drippers. Yeah, and his solo stuff

01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:37.500
was completely different. It's good. Allison

01:20:37.500 --> 01:20:40.380
Krauss stuff. Yeah. But in Led Zeppelin, oh,

01:20:40.479 --> 01:20:42.500
hell of a stuntman. That was him. Yeah. Because

01:20:42.500 --> 01:20:46.840
I saw him solo. And he was more jovial. He wasn't

01:20:46.840 --> 01:20:50.180
that guy that screamed on stage. I'm sure in

01:20:50.180 --> 01:20:53.159
Zep, he had to have an image. It's what the audience

01:20:53.159 --> 01:20:55.260
expected from the Led Zeppelin singer. And then

01:20:55.260 --> 01:20:57.340
when you're not in that band, you can be who

01:20:57.340 --> 01:21:01.420
you really want to be. Yeah, I saw the Now and

01:21:01.420 --> 01:21:04.319
Zen tour, and that was an upbeat album. And he

01:21:04.319 --> 01:21:07.720
was really accentuating that album. And so he

01:21:07.720 --> 01:21:09.659
was doing stuff like Lighten Up and stuff like

01:21:09.659 --> 01:21:15.060
that. He even did Big Log, which is a great song.

01:21:15.399 --> 01:21:18.300
So he really wasn't that guy, like you said.

01:21:18.439 --> 01:21:20.300
Only Led Zeppelin was he that guy. And the Honey

01:21:20.300 --> 01:21:22.779
Drippers, I mean, yeah, they're a swing cover

01:21:22.779 --> 01:21:25.939
band. I mean, fantastic. It's music that he likes

01:21:25.939 --> 01:21:28.520
to listen to and wants to play and enjoys. He's

01:21:28.520 --> 01:21:30.640
like, if it's commercially successful, great.

01:21:30.739 --> 01:21:33.420
If it's not, I still enjoy doing it, so I'm going

01:21:33.420 --> 01:21:36.760
to do it. They did that one song that was somewhat

01:21:36.760 --> 01:21:39.199
of a radio hit. Do you remember when we met?

01:21:39.199 --> 01:21:42.109
Sea of Love. Sea of Love, yeah. Which was a cover.

01:21:42.210 --> 01:21:44.449
Yeah, it was a cover. I think every song the

01:21:44.449 --> 01:21:45.930
Honey Drippers did was a cover. I think so, yeah.

01:21:46.029 --> 01:21:48.430
I think they were basically a cover band. Rockin'

01:21:48.430 --> 01:21:51.689
at Midnight, another one. Yeah. That was a cover.

01:21:52.829 --> 01:21:55.930
Anyhow, all right, go ahead. My next one up is

01:21:55.930 --> 01:22:00.310
David Bowie. Rock and Roll's Chameleon. He can

01:22:00.310 --> 01:22:03.189
do any. Yeah, just any kind of bizarre look.

01:22:04.279 --> 01:22:08.579
He was very unusual and different in his movements

01:22:08.579 --> 01:22:11.579
on stage. Sometimes he looked like a mannequin.

01:22:11.600 --> 01:22:13.920
Sometimes he looked robotic. Sometimes he looked

01:22:13.920 --> 01:22:17.819
really fluid. Sometimes he was so ambiguous.

01:22:17.899 --> 01:22:20.979
He was like, we're not sure what he's playing

01:22:20.979 --> 01:22:25.060
tonight. We're not sure. Exactly. I would agree.

01:22:26.000 --> 01:22:29.479
He went through that whole thin white duke phase.

01:22:30.010 --> 01:22:32.229
But it's just because the drugs he was on was

01:22:32.229 --> 01:22:34.829
making him super skinny. So he just kind of worked

01:22:34.829 --> 01:22:36.670
that into his persona. He's like, all right.

01:22:36.750 --> 01:22:40.090
All right, I'll do that. Man, that guy did so

01:22:40.090 --> 01:22:45.149
many drugs. He had an album called Station to

01:22:45.149 --> 01:22:49.010
Station. And it's debatable whether he means

01:22:49.010 --> 01:22:51.920
like... traveling on a train going from station

01:22:51.920 --> 01:22:55.199
to station or tuning your radio dial from station

01:22:55.199 --> 01:22:58.220
to station looking for a song you want. If you

01:22:58.220 --> 01:23:00.560
go either way. But the majority of that album,

01:23:00.640 --> 01:23:03.819
he said, he was staying in a hotel room with

01:23:03.819 --> 01:23:06.739
Iggy Pop and his girlfriend. Again, mooching

01:23:06.739 --> 01:23:09.680
off of somebody like David Bowie does. Yeah,

01:23:09.680 --> 01:23:11.779
we were talking about that earlier. They were

01:23:11.779 --> 01:23:13.840
doing massive amounts of drugs over the course

01:23:13.840 --> 01:23:16.479
of the long weekend. And at one point, he thought

01:23:16.479 --> 01:23:18.859
the television was eating Iggy Pop's girlfriend.

01:23:20.040 --> 01:23:24.760
So he wrote the song TVC15. That's on the album

01:23:24.760 --> 01:23:27.439
Station to Station. But the rest of that album

01:23:27.439 --> 01:23:30.539
was just completely drug -fueled. Every bit of

01:23:30.539 --> 01:23:34.380
it. I love it. Some of the best music was drug

01:23:34.380 --> 01:23:40.119
-fueled. Fleetwood Mac, Rumors. That exists because

01:23:40.119 --> 01:23:47.239
cocaine is a thing. And that's where boofing

01:23:47.239 --> 01:23:50.060
was originated. Yes. Yes. A little brass funnel.

01:23:50.260 --> 01:23:52.020
Yeah, a little brass funnel. Stick up the butthole.

01:23:53.760 --> 01:23:57.939
I do a boofing parody on the douchebags. And

01:23:57.939 --> 01:24:00.819
I want people to look up boofing. Yes. Because

01:24:00.819 --> 01:24:06.159
they'll be like... I boof ibuprofen because I'm

01:24:06.159 --> 01:24:09.539
old. Now, there was an early version of boofing

01:24:09.539 --> 01:24:12.300
that I remember being covered on a news program.

01:24:12.859 --> 01:24:15.979
And it was... People were going to, like, a gas

01:24:15.979 --> 01:24:17.500
station where they have the big, you know, the

01:24:17.500 --> 01:24:20.079
air hose that actually had a massive compressor

01:24:20.079 --> 01:24:22.380
on it. Yeah. Because they'd use it to run the

01:24:22.380 --> 01:24:24.779
lifts, et cetera. But they'd stick that up their

01:24:24.779 --> 01:24:26.600
butthole and give themselves a blast of air.

01:24:27.180 --> 01:24:29.760
And that was supposed to be fun. Except if you

01:24:29.760 --> 01:24:31.579
were hooked up to one that was hooked up to the

01:24:31.579 --> 01:24:34.460
hydraulic or the pneumatic lift and you gave

01:24:34.460 --> 01:24:36.399
yourself a blast and you blew out your own colon.

01:24:39.920 --> 01:24:43.989
Damn. You just basically drop right there. But

01:24:43.989 --> 01:24:46.310
that was one of the early forms of boofing that

01:24:46.310 --> 01:24:48.850
I remember hearing PSA about. It's like, don't

01:24:48.850 --> 01:24:50.369
do this. And, of course, they tell you exactly

01:24:50.369 --> 01:24:52.189
how to do it, and then say don't do it. Yeah,

01:24:52.189 --> 01:24:53.810
yeah, which means people are going to do it.

01:24:54.250 --> 01:24:56.250
Probably half the people in my neighborhood,

01:24:56.350 --> 01:24:58.609
hey, let's blow some air up my ass, see what

01:24:58.609 --> 01:25:04.949
it feels like. Jeez. Yeah. It's like that night

01:25:04.949 --> 01:25:06.770
you hear bicycle pumps all over the neighborhood.

01:25:07.850 --> 01:25:13.260
Ow! Someone's boofing again. The things people

01:25:13.260 --> 01:25:16.680
will do to get off. That's amazing. My next one

01:25:16.680 --> 01:25:21.460
is Steven Tyler. Yes, I've got him too. I mean,

01:25:21.579 --> 01:25:25.180
what? Very charismatic. You can look like that

01:25:25.180 --> 01:25:27.840
and still get hundreds of thousands of women

01:25:27.840 --> 01:25:29.800
to want you. You're doing something right. You're

01:25:29.800 --> 01:25:31.500
doing something right. And he's doing all that

01:25:31.500 --> 01:25:34.239
on swagger. He ain't doing it on looks. No, he's

01:25:34.239 --> 01:25:36.319
a little short guy and his face is too small.

01:25:36.560 --> 01:25:38.970
Yeah. I mean, well, his features are too small

01:25:38.970 --> 01:25:41.270
for his face. He's got a normal -sized face and

01:25:41.270 --> 01:25:43.250
a normal -sized mouth, but his eyes and nose

01:25:43.250 --> 01:25:45.329
are like half the size they're supposed to be.

01:25:45.510 --> 01:25:48.689
That's why he looks so weird. Oh, yeah. And he's

01:25:48.689 --> 01:25:51.449
got a weird jawline. It just doesn't make sense.

01:25:51.489 --> 01:25:54.310
If you look at it and start going, what is going

01:25:54.310 --> 01:25:57.770
on there? Yeah. Yeah, not a very attractive person,

01:25:57.810 --> 01:26:01.489
but, man, he reeled in the tail because he was

01:26:01.489 --> 01:26:04.500
so charismatic. It's said that his jawline is

01:26:04.500 --> 01:26:06.779
the way it is because his jaw muscles are so

01:26:06.779 --> 01:26:10.100
developed because he just never shuts up. I believe

01:26:10.100 --> 01:26:12.600
that. If he's awake, he's talking. So his jaw

01:26:12.600 --> 01:26:15.199
muscles are like three times the strength of

01:26:15.199 --> 01:26:18.720
an arm wrestler's arm. Oh, wow. He can fight

01:26:18.720 --> 01:26:25.119
through rebar. Supposedly, he can tour again.

01:26:25.399 --> 01:26:28.189
Yeah. Somebody got his problem fixed. You know,

01:26:28.229 --> 01:26:30.710
I think maybe a residency or something like that

01:26:30.710 --> 01:26:32.529
where they play every fortnight or something.

01:26:32.909 --> 01:26:35.369
I don't know about, like, Kansas City and then

01:26:35.369 --> 01:26:37.710
two days later St. Louis and then two days later

01:26:37.710 --> 01:26:41.010
Chicago. I don't know about that. But he can

01:26:41.010 --> 01:26:44.350
perform again, and it may not just be one -offs.

01:26:44.390 --> 01:26:47.890
It might be limited tours or runs. Yeah. Well,

01:26:48.010 --> 01:26:52.590
I remember when it first became a problem with

01:26:52.590 --> 01:26:57.289
his voice, and one of the band members was saying,

01:26:57.800 --> 01:27:00.079
You know, he will eventually get to the point

01:27:00.079 --> 01:27:02.199
where he can, like, maybe sing again, but he'll

01:27:02.199 --> 01:27:04.199
never be able to work as a singer, you know,

01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:06.079
touring. Yeah, I remember that. Never. It's never

01:27:06.079 --> 01:27:07.319
going to happen. Never, never, never, never.

01:27:07.600 --> 01:27:09.840
Now all of a sudden, yeah, I guess it is happening.

01:27:10.079 --> 01:27:13.279
So never say never, I guess. Yeah, you know,

01:27:13.319 --> 01:27:15.520
there's so many new things going on, too. I mean,

01:27:15.539 --> 01:27:19.600
you know, it's just kind of like Tony Iommi was

01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:21.579
supposed to never be able to play again, and

01:27:21.579 --> 01:27:25.090
same way with Eddie Van Halen. But they got some

01:27:25.090 --> 01:27:28.090
stem cell deal in Germany, and they were fine

01:27:28.090 --> 01:27:30.310
after that. I mean, Eddie Van Halen, he's gone

01:27:30.310 --> 01:27:32.890
now, but, you know, he could play for years after

01:27:32.890 --> 01:27:37.170
he was supposed to be done playing. Yeah, it's

01:27:37.170 --> 01:27:41.050
surprising. I mean, they write it off as like,

01:27:41.149 --> 01:27:42.829
ain't going to happen, ain't going to happen.

01:27:42.909 --> 01:27:47.590
And then all of a sudden, oh, look, a miracle.

01:27:47.869 --> 01:27:50.699
And I start wondering. Are these medical treatments

01:27:50.699 --> 01:27:52.619
available to the rest of us, or is this just

01:27:52.619 --> 01:27:55.300
something that special people get? On Eddie Van

01:27:55.300 --> 01:27:58.140
Halen and Tony Iommi's thing, you still can't

01:27:58.140 --> 01:28:01.739
get that stuff in America. No. I was just looking

01:28:01.739 --> 01:28:05.140
up here. Rob Stewart just canceled his Vegas

01:28:05.140 --> 01:28:07.439
residency hours before his first performance,

01:28:07.720 --> 01:28:10.439
saying, I'm just not well, I can't do it, I'm

01:28:10.439 --> 01:28:14.960
just too ill. What is he, 80? At least. At least.

01:28:15.159 --> 01:28:21.619
Yeah. He was... Probably born around 46, 47,

01:28:21.939 --> 01:28:26.140
just right after the war. Wow. He'd be a contemporary

01:28:26.140 --> 01:28:30.359
of Elton John, so he's that age. Probably 78,

01:28:30.840 --> 01:28:36.619
80. Yeah, right around 80. Okay. Wow. Okay. Hope

01:28:36.619 --> 01:28:39.930
I'm kicking when I'm 80. Yeah, me too. No, that's

01:28:39.930 --> 01:28:42.229
too bad because it probably means that his health

01:28:42.229 --> 01:28:43.989
is so bad that he's not going to tour. I mean,

01:28:44.010 --> 01:28:47.069
Richie Blackmore, he's like that now. Ozzie's

01:28:47.069 --> 01:28:50.689
definitely like that. I mean, it's just... It's

01:28:50.689 --> 01:28:52.970
tough. Yeah, it is. I mean, they're all disappearing

01:28:52.970 --> 01:28:59.310
one way or another. Next one I have, Jim Morrison,

01:28:59.449 --> 01:29:02.720
The Doors. Yes. Which is ironic because they

01:29:02.720 --> 01:29:04.859
really didn't do a lot of live shows because

01:29:04.859 --> 01:29:08.000
Jim Morrison kept screwing them up. Yeah. But

01:29:08.000 --> 01:29:09.699
that was part of the reason they made him a...

01:29:09.699 --> 01:29:10.859
But every time he screwed them up, he got more

01:29:10.859 --> 01:29:12.979
fame. Yeah, there was, let's see, there was the

01:29:12.979 --> 01:29:15.939
concert where he came on stage holding a lamb.

01:29:16.300 --> 01:29:21.920
Uh -huh. There was a concert where he got down

01:29:21.920 --> 01:29:25.300
on his knees and supposedly imitated giving his

01:29:25.300 --> 01:29:28.359
guitar player a blowjob. He claims he was just

01:29:28.359 --> 01:29:32.369
admiring his finger work. There was the concert

01:29:32.369 --> 01:29:34.970
where he taunted the cops relentlessly until

01:29:34.970 --> 01:29:38.090
they shut the show down and arrested him. There

01:29:38.090 --> 01:29:42.189
was the concert where he was told he couldn't

01:29:42.189 --> 01:29:48.930
say the words to the end. There's a section in

01:29:48.930 --> 01:29:51.310
the end where he says, Father, yes son, I want

01:29:51.310 --> 01:29:54.090
to kill you. Mother, yes son, I want to fuck

01:29:54.090 --> 01:29:57.739
you. They wouldn't let him record that line on

01:29:57.739 --> 01:30:00.520
the album. They just had him screaming incomprehensibly.

01:30:00.619 --> 01:30:02.779
But he would say that live. And the venue said,

01:30:02.899 --> 01:30:05.159
uh -uh. You're not going to say that word. You're

01:30:05.159 --> 01:30:07.020
not, you're not, you're not. And then he finally

01:30:07.020 --> 01:30:09.359
said, okay, I won't. And then he did. And they

01:30:09.359 --> 01:30:11.819
just shut it right off. Boom. Power off. You're

01:30:11.819 --> 01:30:15.359
out. Bye. He was pretty much a dickhead. He was.

01:30:15.859 --> 01:30:17.800
So I'm going to do it my way. I'm going to lie

01:30:17.800 --> 01:30:20.180
to you, but I'm going to do it my way. And when

01:30:20.180 --> 01:30:24.310
he died. His music career was over anyhow. People

01:30:24.310 --> 01:30:26.310
are like, well, what could it have been? No.

01:30:26.569 --> 01:30:28.649
There wouldn't have been. No, he was done. Might

01:30:28.649 --> 01:30:30.449
have written some poetry books or something.

01:30:30.449 --> 01:30:32.470
Yeah, something, yeah. He never really wanted

01:30:32.470 --> 01:30:34.689
to be a rock star. He just wanted to be able

01:30:34.689 --> 01:30:37.550
to get on stage and sing his poems to somebody's

01:30:37.550 --> 01:30:40.069
music. He was a perfect example of probably the

01:30:40.069 --> 01:30:43.430
reason the term tortured poet is now a term.

01:30:44.050 --> 01:30:48.930
So, prime example. There was a stone bust of

01:30:48.930 --> 01:30:51.210
him that was on his grave that got stolen like

01:30:51.210 --> 01:30:55.189
37 years ago. It was recently found in like a

01:30:55.189 --> 01:30:58.989
rummage sale. It was like, wait, that's the actual

01:30:58.989 --> 01:31:03.770
one. So they got it put back on his grave. 37

01:31:03.770 --> 01:31:07.270
years somebody's had the stone head of Jim Morrison

01:31:07.270 --> 01:31:11.289
in their house. And was he, he was buried in

01:31:11.289 --> 01:31:13.890
Paris, right? Yeah, that's where he died. That's

01:31:13.890 --> 01:31:16.380
what I thought, okay. And yeah, they kept him

01:31:16.380 --> 01:31:18.159
over there. They never brought him back to America,

01:31:18.260 --> 01:31:22.020
did they? No. His girlfriend at the time, Pamela,

01:31:22.140 --> 01:31:26.619
I think it was Pamela, she said he loved Paris.

01:31:26.720 --> 01:31:29.079
He wasn't really all that keen on America anymore.

01:31:31.020 --> 01:31:33.539
This was still, you know, Vietnam era. Oh, yeah.

01:31:34.399 --> 01:31:38.359
And in Paris, there were a lot fewer questions

01:31:38.359 --> 01:31:41.310
asked. Got it. Because they wanted to hide the

01:31:41.310 --> 01:31:43.949
fact that he OD'd and died in the pub down the

01:31:43.949 --> 01:31:46.010
hall, not down the road. Yeah, they moved him.

01:31:46.069 --> 01:31:48.369
So they dragged him home, undressed him, ran

01:31:48.369 --> 01:31:50.310
a tub of water, put him in there and called the

01:31:50.310 --> 01:31:52.270
French doctor and said, he died of a heart attack

01:31:52.270 --> 01:31:54.130
in the tub. And the guy said, no problem, I'll

01:31:54.130 --> 01:31:57.010
sign the death certificate. Which, you know,

01:31:57.010 --> 01:31:59.390
everyone said, ooh, shady, they were hiding something.

01:31:59.430 --> 01:32:01.210
It's like, that was kind of what they did at

01:32:01.210 --> 01:32:03.090
the time. Nobody really cared that much. Yeah,

01:32:03.210 --> 01:32:05.630
it was like an image thing, and that's the only

01:32:05.630 --> 01:32:08.090
reason they did that is because of image. Yeah,

01:32:08.090 --> 01:32:10.960
yeah. And the people who helped do that, when

01:32:10.960 --> 01:32:13.760
these started nearing the end of their life,

01:32:13.819 --> 01:32:16.779
they're like, I want to come clean on this. He

01:32:16.779 --> 01:32:19.380
didn't die gently of a heart attack in his bathtub.

01:32:21.800 --> 01:32:26.479
My next one would be Mick Jagger. Yes. Not a

01:32:26.479 --> 01:32:29.439
real fan of the Stones, but you've got to admit,

01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:34.060
he's got... Mountains of talent. Yeah, he does.

01:32:34.199 --> 01:32:36.579
I've never gotten the stones like a lot of people

01:32:36.579 --> 01:32:39.220
have. I've never thought they were that good.

01:32:39.800 --> 01:32:43.880
But a lot of people do. But Mick Jagger, the

01:32:43.880 --> 01:32:47.939
charisma, again, like Steven Tyler. Ugly as sin

01:32:47.939 --> 01:32:52.920
in a church on Sunday. But reels the tail in

01:32:52.920 --> 01:32:58.140
like nobody. I don't know what else to say about

01:32:58.140 --> 01:33:01.250
him. Well, you know, you can't really blame the

01:33:01.250 --> 01:33:04.789
guy for finding the most attractive woman, but

01:33:04.789 --> 01:33:08.449
I look sideways at the woman who decides that

01:33:08.449 --> 01:33:13.229
this old, rather ugly guy with his millions of

01:33:13.229 --> 01:33:16.229
dollars is the best thing for me right now. Like

01:33:16.229 --> 01:33:18.609
Belichick and his girlfriend. Yeah, Jordan, what's

01:33:18.609 --> 01:33:22.289
her name? Oh, I love his mind. Bullshit. It's

01:33:22.289 --> 01:33:25.210
a thing called a checkbook. Mark Davis, the owner

01:33:25.210 --> 01:33:30.680
of the... raiders oh he's an ugly yeah dude dude

01:33:30.680 --> 01:33:36.300
is homely really homely and his his statuesque

01:33:36.300 --> 01:33:40.859
model quality 23 year old girlfriend says i just

01:33:40.859 --> 01:33:44.760
have a smile and a sense of humor while he's

01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:49.680
writing you checks but hey it's his choice he

01:33:49.680 --> 01:33:52.899
went into his eyes what else is he gonna do really

01:33:53.930 --> 01:33:56.850
Yeah, apparently it was a mutual thing, so who

01:33:56.850 --> 01:33:59.630
are we to complain? Yeah, I don't care, whatever.

01:34:00.170 --> 01:34:04.130
My last front man is Freddie Mercury. Oh, cool.

01:34:04.710 --> 01:34:10.090
Because I remember when Queen started becoming

01:34:10.090 --> 01:34:12.670
a big thing, and I kept seeing these pictures

01:34:12.670 --> 01:34:14.909
of Freddie Mercury on stage and all the poses

01:34:14.909 --> 01:34:18.260
he'd do and stuff, and I remember... As the 14,

01:34:18.279 --> 01:34:22.239
15 -year -old kid thinking, wow, if he's not

01:34:22.239 --> 01:34:23.800
careful, people are going to think he's gay.

01:34:26.800 --> 01:34:30.600
From the way he dresses, poses. Because I was

01:34:30.600 --> 01:34:33.140
used to, at that time, every rock and roller

01:34:33.140 --> 01:34:35.920
was a he -man. And that's just the way they portrayed

01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:37.319
it. No, no, me too. Because I remember watching

01:34:37.319 --> 01:34:40.100
Don Kirshner's rock concert. And Queen was on

01:34:40.100 --> 01:34:45.210
there. And I was like, wait a minute. there is

01:34:45.210 --> 01:34:47.750
something really different about this guy here.

01:34:47.850 --> 01:34:50.430
He's definitely trying to get the girl. Yeah,

01:34:50.489 --> 01:34:52.930
yeah. Because, you know, there's swaggers that

01:34:52.930 --> 01:34:55.350
lead singers do and certain things they do. Maybe

01:34:55.350 --> 01:34:57.989
like doing a kick in the back, kick in the air.

01:34:58.130 --> 01:35:00.609
Yeah. And doing a little fluffy stuff with his

01:35:00.609 --> 01:35:02.829
hands. It was like, wait a minute, there's something

01:35:02.829 --> 01:35:06.149
different here. You look in the audience. No,

01:35:06.149 --> 01:35:08.029
girls. If I was the rest of the queen, I'd be

01:35:08.029 --> 01:35:11.189
mad. Son of a bitch, can you be a little bit

01:35:11.189 --> 01:35:13.449
more masculine so we can get some chicks in this

01:35:13.449 --> 01:35:16.189
fucking thing? Brian may comment about that once.

01:35:16.250 --> 01:35:19.210
Remember when Freddie Mercury got his clone look?

01:35:19.350 --> 01:35:21.710
The short hair, the big thick black mustache.

01:35:22.050 --> 01:35:24.350
Oh, yeah, yeah. And a lot of gay men were having

01:35:24.350 --> 01:35:26.590
that exact look. It was called the clone look.

01:35:27.069 --> 01:35:29.569
And Brian said, I remember one time looking at

01:35:29.569 --> 01:35:32.710
the concert and it was like... All I could see

01:35:32.710 --> 01:35:35.310
was like 30 or 40 rows of Freddie Mercury's.

01:35:35.310 --> 01:35:37.970
It was like a whole room of Freddie Mercury's.

01:35:37.970 --> 01:35:40.869
It was the weirdest thing I'd ever seen. That

01:35:40.869 --> 01:35:45.289
would suck being the rest of the band. On the

01:35:45.289 --> 01:35:47.310
other hand, the very few girls who did show up

01:35:47.310 --> 01:35:50.210
were bound to be very frustrated. It's like,

01:35:50.329 --> 01:35:52.649
nobody has hit on me all night, man. I need some.

01:35:54.029 --> 01:35:56.649
The rest were easy pickings. It was like, well,

01:35:56.649 --> 01:36:01.750
you can count out Freddie. Okay, I have Axl Rose.

01:36:02.189 --> 01:36:04.770
Oh, another very good one. Already covered Alice

01:36:04.770 --> 01:36:09.350
Cooper. Paul Stanley. Yes, definitely. A lot

01:36:09.350 --> 01:36:13.210
of charisma. Actually a really good guitarist,

01:36:13.210 --> 01:36:15.569
too. And you've got to also take into account

01:36:15.569 --> 01:36:18.789
there was a lot of stuff happening on stage around

01:36:18.789 --> 01:36:20.989
Paul, and he still got your attention. He still

01:36:20.989 --> 01:36:22.770
got your attention, yeah. That says a lot. He

01:36:22.770 --> 01:36:26.149
had to really work hard to do that. And his singing.

01:36:27.230 --> 01:36:29.369
Always good. Loved his voice. He had an excellent

01:36:29.369 --> 01:36:31.949
rock and roll voice. And he could hit the high

01:36:31.949 --> 01:36:35.369
notes very well. Did you know he only has one

01:36:35.369 --> 01:36:38.529
ear? Yeah, well now he has two. He got his right

01:36:38.529 --> 01:36:42.310
one fixed? Yes. So he was born deaf in his right

01:36:42.310 --> 01:36:44.710
ear, and there's only about a half to a third

01:36:44.710 --> 01:36:47.270
of it actually formed, which he was relentlessly

01:36:47.270 --> 01:36:48.949
teased about. But yeah, he grew his hair long

01:36:48.949 --> 01:36:53.130
to cover what he felt was a deformity. He said

01:36:53.130 --> 01:36:55.869
the reason, he found out when Gene Simmons was

01:36:55.869 --> 01:36:58.689
a true friend, he went to go get his ear fixed.

01:36:58.970 --> 01:37:01.670
Gene Simmons, I guess, is deathly afraid of airplanes.

01:37:02.130 --> 01:37:04.069
And it was like somewhere, I don't know, way

01:37:04.069 --> 01:37:08.170
off. Gene Simmons showed up there, unannounced,

01:37:08.229 --> 01:37:10.569
and he got there by airplane. His only way to

01:37:10.569 --> 01:37:14.119
get there. And he's like, you know. I've doubted

01:37:14.119 --> 01:37:16.500
him for some, you know, here and there and doubted

01:37:16.500 --> 01:37:18.819
his heart and everything. He said, no, he's a

01:37:18.819 --> 01:37:21.300
true friend. He showed up for me when I was having

01:37:21.300 --> 01:37:25.460
it done. And I learned that when they formed

01:37:25.460 --> 01:37:30.119
Wicked Lester and they had a record deal and

01:37:30.119 --> 01:37:34.239
they made the album and Gene and Paul said, you

01:37:34.239 --> 01:37:36.300
know what, this really isn't us. This isn't what

01:37:36.300 --> 01:37:38.239
we wanted Wicked Lester to be. We don't want

01:37:38.239 --> 01:37:41.319
to get pigeonholed into this and have this be

01:37:41.319 --> 01:37:43.600
our career. This isn't what we want to do. So

01:37:43.600 --> 01:37:47.239
they effectively quit the band after the album

01:37:47.239 --> 01:37:49.800
had already been made. Said, no, we're starting

01:37:49.800 --> 01:37:52.020
over. You can get the demos, too. They're all

01:37:52.020 --> 01:37:54.380
going everywhere. I mean, it's not bad music,

01:37:54.460 --> 01:37:57.479
but it definitely isn't Kiss. Yeah. That's before

01:37:57.479 --> 01:38:00.979
Ace, you know, Peter. And Ace was so much of

01:38:00.979 --> 01:38:05.539
that sound. Yeah, they did replace their drummer

01:38:05.539 --> 01:38:07.579
and lead guitar player. And I think they got

01:38:07.579 --> 01:38:10.640
a really, really good choice for both of them.

01:38:12.960 --> 01:38:17.359
Sebastian Bach and Bruce Dickinson. Bruce Dickinson

01:38:17.359 --> 01:38:20.380
because of his ability to... Hey, you greasy

01:38:20.380 --> 01:38:23.119
wankers. It's time for the Midwest Concert Calendar.

01:38:29.619 --> 01:38:32.939
Want a tool to Wichita? Static X with gore and

01:38:32.939 --> 01:38:36.399
dope at the Cotillion on May 26th. Marshall Tucker

01:38:36.399 --> 01:38:40.029
brand at the Temple Live Wichita, May 29th. Alice

01:38:40.029 --> 01:38:42.210
Cooper and Judas Priest in Trust Arena, October

01:38:42.210 --> 01:38:44.789
8th. Diggly Rock, just up the road in Kansas

01:38:44.789 --> 01:38:47.569
City at Grindr's, August 13th. Jerry Cantrell

01:38:47.569 --> 01:38:50.470
supports a solo album, I Want Blood. He will

01:38:50.470 --> 01:38:52.590
be live at Dub Camp Theater in Kansas City, September

01:38:52.590 --> 01:38:55.529
14th. Black Oak Amphitheater, Landon, Missouri,

01:38:55.649 --> 01:38:59.189
May 31st. Up Cherry and Hinder. How about Tulsa?

01:38:59.210 --> 01:39:01.569
Go see the Toadies at Kane's Ballroom, August

01:39:01.569 --> 01:39:04.369
27th. Or how about the Melvins? Thursday, October

01:39:04.369 --> 01:39:08.680
14th, Kane's Ballroom also. Keep listening for

01:39:08.680 --> 01:39:14.140
more updates coming soon. Act on stage and act

01:39:14.140 --> 01:39:16.399
out different periods in time, which Iron Maid

01:39:16.399 --> 01:39:19.520
likes to sing about. And Sebastian Bach is just

01:39:19.520 --> 01:39:25.020
powerful and commands presence. That's it. That's

01:39:25.020 --> 01:39:29.699
all I got. I've got some more updates about Zach

01:39:29.699 --> 01:39:32.020
Starkey being fired from the Who. Oh, okay. Was

01:39:32.020 --> 01:39:34.039
it like five or six times now? Yeah, we love

01:39:34.039 --> 01:39:38.319
this one. Okay, the story starts with the first

01:39:38.319 --> 01:39:40.500
story they gave us when he was fired the first

01:39:40.500 --> 01:39:44.060
time. And it was, okay, they were confirming

01:39:44.060 --> 01:39:47.300
that the drummer, 59, who's been with the rock

01:39:47.300 --> 01:39:52.500
band since 29 years, was leaving the band. And

01:39:52.500 --> 01:39:54.920
his statement was, very proud of my near 30 years

01:39:54.920 --> 01:39:57.550
with the Who. Filling the shoes of my godfather,

01:39:57.670 --> 01:40:01.050
Uncle Keith, has been my biggest honor. He said,

01:40:01.090 --> 01:40:03.250
in January, I suffered a serious medical emergency

01:40:03.250 --> 01:40:06.989
with blood clots in my right calf, now completely

01:40:06.989 --> 01:40:11.970
healed. It doesn't affect me. After playing those

01:40:11.970 --> 01:40:14.050
songs with the band for so many decades, I'm

01:40:14.050 --> 01:40:16.109
surprised and saddened. Anyone would have an

01:40:16.109 --> 01:40:18.130
issue with my performance that night, but what

01:40:18.130 --> 01:40:20.569
can you do? This is in reference to Roger Daltor

01:40:20.569 --> 01:40:23.130
saying, I can't sing because I can't hear what

01:40:23.130 --> 01:40:24.949
key I'm in because all I hear is the drums going

01:40:24.949 --> 01:40:29.270
boom, boom, boom. Which is bullshit because they're

01:40:29.270 --> 01:40:32.069
electronic drums, so they make no sound on their

01:40:32.069 --> 01:40:34.810
own. They only make sound when they're put through

01:40:34.810 --> 01:40:38.539
an amplifier. Yeah. Which you can turn up and

01:40:38.539 --> 01:40:41.020
down in your ears anyway. He's going deaf anyhow.

01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:45.140
Yeah. Then he said, I plan to take some much

01:40:45.140 --> 01:40:47.020
-needed time off with my family and focus on

01:40:47.020 --> 01:40:50.199
the release of my Domino Bones by Mantra of the

01:40:50.199 --> 01:40:53.140
Cosmos with Noel Gallagher in May and finishing

01:40:53.140 --> 01:40:57.479
my autobiography written solely by me. A rep

01:40:57.479 --> 01:40:59.739
for the rock band told The Independent the drummer's

01:40:59.739 --> 01:41:02.699
departure was a collective decision. made following

01:41:02.699 --> 01:41:04.760
their headline shows at the Royal Albert Hall.

01:41:04.920 --> 01:41:07.140
The band made a collective decision to part ways

01:41:07.140 --> 01:41:09.619
with Zach after this round of shows. They have

01:41:09.619 --> 01:41:11.300
nothing but admiration for him and wish him the

01:41:11.300 --> 01:41:14.699
very best in his future. Okay, then a few days

01:41:14.699 --> 01:41:17.500
later, he was rehired. And they said, oh, it

01:41:17.500 --> 01:41:20.140
was all just a mistake. Their timbres were flared.

01:41:20.140 --> 01:41:22.140
We've all worked it out. We just had some adult

01:41:22.140 --> 01:41:25.539
conversations and everything's fine now. And

01:41:25.539 --> 01:41:28.380
then they fired him again. I wasn't aware of

01:41:28.380 --> 01:41:31.720
that. Yeah. A legendary rock band have parted

01:41:31.720 --> 01:41:33.819
ways with their drummer for the second time in

01:41:33.819 --> 01:41:37.960
a month. Both parties announced. Pete Townsend,

01:41:37.960 --> 01:41:41.260
the band's main guitarist and songwriter, implied

01:41:41.260 --> 01:41:44.159
in his statement that the split was mutual. Starkey

01:41:44.159 --> 01:41:47.239
claimed, I've been fired. And they asked me to

01:41:47.239 --> 01:41:50.119
make a statement saying I had quit to pursue

01:41:50.119 --> 01:41:53.159
other interests. So no, I was fired, but they

01:41:53.159 --> 01:41:56.020
wanted me to lie to them. He said, there have

01:41:56.020 --> 01:41:58.579
been weeks of mayhem of me going in and out and

01:41:58.579 --> 01:42:00.479
in and out and in and out like a bleeding squeeze

01:42:00.479 --> 01:42:03.539
box. So they've been pushing him out, asking

01:42:03.539 --> 01:42:05.800
him back, pushing him out. It's been just a roller

01:42:05.800 --> 01:42:09.819
coaster for him. A revolving door. Just days

01:42:09.819 --> 01:42:11.640
later, however, Townsend and Starkey announced

01:42:11.640 --> 01:42:14.239
he would be rejoining the band after some communication

01:42:14.239 --> 01:42:16.859
issues, personal and private on all sides, have

01:42:16.859 --> 01:42:20.020
been aired happily. Townsend said, well, maybe

01:42:20.020 --> 01:42:22.279
we didn't give enough time to sound checks that

01:42:22.279 --> 01:42:24.670
were giving us problems on stage. So they're

01:42:24.670 --> 01:42:27.189
still going with that lie about some onstage

01:42:27.189 --> 01:42:29.729
sound problem, which has nothing to do with the

01:42:29.729 --> 01:42:31.869
drummer and everything to do with the sound operator,

01:42:32.149 --> 01:42:34.289
the sound engineer. So they're sticking with

01:42:34.289 --> 01:42:38.010
that lie. The sound in the center stage is always

01:42:38.010 --> 01:42:40.149
the most difficult to work with. Roger did nothing

01:42:40.149 --> 01:42:42.729
wrong but fiddle with his in -ear monitors. Zach

01:42:42.729 --> 01:42:45.229
made a few mistakes and he's apologized, albeit

01:42:45.229 --> 01:42:48.489
with a rubber duck drummer. He sent Pete Townsend

01:42:48.489 --> 01:42:50.250
a rubber duck drummer with a note saying, sorry.

01:42:53.620 --> 01:42:58.119
Then the decision was reversed and he's out again.

01:43:00.100 --> 01:43:03.020
Townsend said on the Sunday, recent Sunday, wow,

01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:06.739
the time has come for a change. Adding, Zach

01:43:06.739 --> 01:43:09.260
has lots of new projects in hand and I wish him

01:43:09.260 --> 01:43:11.359
the best. This is where they're saying he wants

01:43:11.359 --> 01:43:15.159
to retire from the band and focus on solo objects.

01:43:15.260 --> 01:43:18.960
And then Starkey immediately said, I have other

01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:21.399
projects, but I always have. I've had them for

01:43:21.399 --> 01:43:23.520
years and years, and it's never been a problem.

01:43:23.840 --> 01:43:27.020
The Who have been sporadic or minimalist in touring

01:43:27.020 --> 01:43:29.199
most years apart from the two extensive tours

01:43:29.199 --> 01:43:32.899
in 2000 and 2006 and 2007. None of this other

01:43:32.899 --> 01:43:35.619
work has ever interfered with The Who. It has

01:43:35.619 --> 01:43:38.439
never been a problem for them. He always says,

01:43:38.460 --> 01:43:40.539
The Who comes first. I'll put the other stuff

01:43:40.539 --> 01:43:43.220
on hold. And he says, I'm quite chilled about

01:43:43.220 --> 01:43:45.319
the whole affair and now focused more on a more

01:43:45.319 --> 01:43:48.840
contemporary project, referencing his supergroup

01:43:48.840 --> 01:43:53.619
Mantra of the Cosmos. Now Starkey's departure

01:43:53.619 --> 01:43:56.979
comes just three months before the Who are due

01:43:56.979 --> 01:43:59.500
to embark on their farewell tour of North America.

01:44:00.920 --> 01:44:04.260
Scott DeVores will take over. He's somebody who

01:44:04.260 --> 01:44:06.359
was filled in for Zack Starkey when Zack needed

01:44:06.359 --> 01:44:17.489
some time off. Okay. Let's see. Yeah, Devorahs

01:44:17.489 --> 01:44:19.210
has played with Daughtry in his solo gigs and

01:44:19.210 --> 01:44:21.390
filled in for Starkey as a true drummer in the

01:44:21.390 --> 01:44:30.189
past. And then another wrinkle to this was in

01:44:30.189 --> 01:44:33.189
the intervening time, since Zach is out, and

01:44:33.189 --> 01:44:35.569
he says, you know, they fired me. They're pretending

01:44:35.569 --> 01:44:41.229
I retired, but they fired me. And now Pete Townsend...

01:44:41.659 --> 01:44:44.159
has gone on record saying that he's not all that

01:44:44.159 --> 01:44:47.279
excited about the upcoming farewell tour in North

01:44:47.279 --> 01:44:51.140
America, and maybe they can take it a little

01:44:51.140 --> 01:44:53.899
easy, or maybe they can change some things around

01:44:53.899 --> 01:44:56.960
so it's not such a grind, and maybe they want

01:44:56.960 --> 01:44:59.460
to rethink some things. Roger Daltrey jumped

01:44:59.460 --> 01:45:01.840
right on that and said, well, hey, if he's not

01:45:01.840 --> 01:45:03.659
all excited about it and wants to do it, then

01:45:03.659 --> 01:45:05.500
I've got other things I could do. I don't need

01:45:05.500 --> 01:45:08.000
to bother. If he's not all 100 % in on it, then

01:45:08.000 --> 01:45:10.399
why bother? I'm not doing anything. So now the

01:45:10.399 --> 01:45:14.039
whole tour is in jeopardy because Townsend said

01:45:14.039 --> 01:45:16.020
he's not all that thrilled or excited about the

01:45:16.020 --> 01:45:18.180
idea of doing it. And Daltrey is like, yeah,

01:45:18.300 --> 01:45:24.239
any excuse to quit. Wow. Yeah. So it's like the

01:45:24.239 --> 01:45:26.880
whole band is falling apart. And Zach Starkey

01:45:26.880 --> 01:45:28.840
didn't really cause it, but he was just the first

01:45:28.840 --> 01:45:32.060
evidence that basically the band is crumbling.

01:45:33.930 --> 01:45:37.029
After all these years and all these tribulations

01:45:37.029 --> 01:45:40.949
of band members dying. Yeah. Well, it's down

01:45:40.949 --> 01:45:43.789
to Roger Daltrey and Pete Townsend. And then

01:45:43.789 --> 01:45:46.970
it sounds like they don't like each other at

01:45:46.970 --> 01:45:50.149
all. Pete Townsend has always had solo projects.

01:45:51.170 --> 01:45:53.510
Daltrey, I don't know if he's done solo things.

01:45:53.670 --> 01:45:56.489
He's done solo tours. That's true. I don't think

01:45:56.489 --> 01:45:59.850
he's done solo work. I don't think he has, no.

01:46:00.050 --> 01:46:03.680
But I've seen him solo a few times. Never with

01:46:03.680 --> 01:46:08.020
a who. Yeah. But it sounds like Zach Starkey

01:46:08.020 --> 01:46:10.619
is now, you know, he's ready to tell everybody

01:46:10.619 --> 01:46:14.220
the truth. It's like, I didn't make, you know,

01:46:14.260 --> 01:46:17.420
I didn't blow that show. And it wasn't me too

01:46:17.420 --> 01:46:19.659
loud in his ear monitor. And I didn't retire.

01:46:19.880 --> 01:46:21.960
And it's not a mutual decision. They showed me

01:46:21.960 --> 01:46:25.029
the door. Yeah. And then they called me back,

01:46:25.090 --> 01:46:26.989
and then they showed me the door again. So I'm

01:46:26.989 --> 01:46:30.130
done with him. I'm just so tired of the lies

01:46:30.130 --> 01:46:33.590
and the bullshit, jerking him around. Wow. He's

01:46:33.590 --> 01:46:35.449
got so many other things he could do with his

01:46:35.449 --> 01:46:38.130
life and his talent than to be tied to these

01:46:38.130 --> 01:46:41.289
two guys. Well, he's got all these other projects

01:46:41.289 --> 01:46:43.590
going on. He can just transfer into them real

01:46:43.590 --> 01:46:48.140
easily. Yeah. Okay, wow. I'm seriously beginning

01:46:48.140 --> 01:46:50.640
to doubt we're ever going to see any incarnation

01:46:50.640 --> 01:46:53.239
of The Who playing live ever again. I don't think

01:46:53.239 --> 01:46:56.800
so. Pete Townshend also wants to do another studio

01:46:56.800 --> 01:46:59.760
album, another The Who studio album, but not

01:46:59.760 --> 01:47:02.899
tour it. And Daltrey said, no, I'm not interested

01:47:02.899 --> 01:47:08.000
in that. Just flat out said, uh -uh, I ain't

01:47:08.000 --> 01:47:11.399
doing it. Wow. What is going on with this band?

01:47:12.100 --> 01:47:15.560
Well, Roger Daltrey is losing his sight and hearing.

01:47:15.760 --> 01:47:19.680
Yeah. So he probably has given up, I guess. Yeah.

01:47:19.779 --> 01:47:21.199
Doesn't it sound like that? He's kind of like,

01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:23.560
fuck it, why do I even want to do anything? He's

01:47:23.560 --> 01:47:24.920
probably doing what a lot of people are doing

01:47:24.920 --> 01:47:27.239
is now he's thinking about his legacy. And anything

01:47:27.239 --> 01:47:29.359
I do from this point on is going to be the last

01:47:29.359 --> 01:47:31.239
thing people remember from me. And I don't want

01:47:31.239 --> 01:47:34.539
to go out and cock it up. That's it. Go out and

01:47:34.539 --> 01:47:36.760
I can't hit the notes, can't play all night,

01:47:36.899 --> 01:47:38.800
I lose my breath. I don't want to go out there

01:47:38.800 --> 01:47:41.720
and look like an out of shape old man. Yeah.

01:47:41.949 --> 01:47:43.909
you know, go out on top kind of thing. Well Townsend,

01:47:43.909 --> 01:47:50.569
he's still in reasonably good shape. It is definitely

01:47:50.569 --> 01:47:52.409
physically demanding to stand there and play

01:47:52.409 --> 01:47:56.430
guitar all night, but you can recover way faster

01:47:56.430 --> 01:48:00.199
than a vocalist can. Yeah. Because, I mean, when

01:48:00.199 --> 01:48:01.520
you're playing guitar, you can breathe all you

01:48:01.520 --> 01:48:03.560
want. When you're singing, you've got to regulate

01:48:03.560 --> 01:48:05.359
your breathing. You can only breathe at certain

01:48:05.359 --> 01:48:08.100
times. I can understand. It sounds to me like

01:48:08.100 --> 01:48:10.640
adultery is very conflicted and probably portrayed

01:48:10.640 --> 01:48:12.680
that and nobody liked it. They're like, well,

01:48:12.720 --> 01:48:14.840
you know, you've got to do this or that. And

01:48:14.840 --> 01:48:17.659
he's kind of like, yeah, no. And then I think

01:48:17.659 --> 01:48:20.300
it's day to day on him. He'd feel good one day

01:48:20.300 --> 01:48:22.119
and go, yeah, we can do this. And another day

01:48:22.119 --> 01:48:24.920
he's like, nah, I don't think so. Yeah. Wow.

01:48:25.239 --> 01:48:27.649
It's interesting. Still interesting what's going

01:48:27.649 --> 01:48:30.869
on there. No, it is. It is. I think The Who has

01:48:30.869 --> 01:48:35.149
pretty much run its course. Yep. You got anything

01:48:35.149 --> 01:48:38.770
else? That pretty much taps me out. Yeah, I want

01:48:38.770 --> 01:48:41.390
to do the Zach Wild thing next time. Well, I

01:48:41.390 --> 01:48:43.770
do have iconic guitar riffs. Oh, go ahead. If

01:48:43.770 --> 01:48:46.789
you want to do that. And I'll do mine next week.

01:48:46.930 --> 01:48:51.770
Okay. So, I went more for the classic rock version

01:48:51.770 --> 01:48:56.300
because it's more than I'm familiar with. First

01:48:56.300 --> 01:48:58.619
one I got is Life in the Fast Lane by the Eagles.

01:48:59.859 --> 01:49:03.199
And that lick that starts the song was actually

01:49:03.199 --> 01:49:05.520
a finger exercise the guitar player was doing.

01:49:06.220 --> 01:49:10.600
Which player was that? Was it Fry? I think it

01:49:10.600 --> 01:49:12.579
was Glenn Fry. I think it was Glenn Fry. And

01:49:12.579 --> 01:49:16.840
his wife kept saying, that's cool, I like that,

01:49:16.880 --> 01:49:19.680
you should do something with that. So he eventually

01:49:19.680 --> 01:49:22.000
did, worked out to be a monster hit. That was

01:49:22.000 --> 01:49:23.899
on the Hotel California album, I think. Yeah,

01:49:23.899 --> 01:49:28.449
which was a monster album. There was another

01:49:28.449 --> 01:49:31.029
one that started out, Dust in the Wind, started

01:49:31.029 --> 01:49:33.170
out as the finger exercise that Cary Lipgrid

01:49:33.170 --> 01:49:36.489
was doing. And his wife said, that's beautiful.

01:49:36.609 --> 01:49:38.409
It's got to be a song. You've got to make that

01:49:38.409 --> 01:49:40.229
a song because it's so beautiful. You just have

01:49:40.229 --> 01:49:42.890
to do it. And he said he couldn't really figure

01:49:42.890 --> 01:49:45.149
out what to do with it, but then one night he's

01:49:45.149 --> 01:49:47.770
like, oh, I could go here. Oh, and then I could

01:49:47.770 --> 01:49:49.489
go here. It's like just all fell in place. Well,

01:49:49.489 --> 01:49:51.869
now he just figured it out. He's just like doodling

01:49:51.869 --> 01:49:54.329
probably. Okay. So I'm trying to come up with

01:49:54.329 --> 01:49:57.270
some finger exercises. It's like maybe I can

01:49:57.270 --> 01:50:02.170
come up with a hit just noodling around. Don't

01:50:02.170 --> 01:50:04.869
hold your breath. So many hits were done like

01:50:04.869 --> 01:50:09.630
that. Someone goes, hey. I like that little part.

01:50:09.850 --> 01:50:12.729
Yeah, and they're like, what, you do? Yeah. All

01:50:12.729 --> 01:50:15.050
right, my next iconic riff. Born to be wild,

01:50:15.229 --> 01:50:20.460
Steppenwolf. That got everyone charged up in

01:50:20.460 --> 01:50:22.220
the late 60s. That was just like everywhere.

01:50:23.000 --> 01:50:25.420
And that made it into a lot of movies, too. Yeah,

01:50:25.420 --> 01:50:29.579
it did. It was an iconic riff. Another good one

01:50:29.579 --> 01:50:32.600
is Mississippi Queen by Mountain. Oh, yeah. Oh,

01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:36.979
gosh, yeah. I think that was an SG through a

01:50:36.979 --> 01:50:39.819
fuzz box. Was it? Yeah, it was Leslie West on

01:50:39.819 --> 01:50:42.220
guitar. Leslie West was a mountain. Yeah, he

01:50:42.220 --> 01:50:44.840
was a mountain, yeah. But he could make that

01:50:44.840 --> 01:50:48.500
guitar do all sorts of stuff. What a sound he

01:50:48.500 --> 01:50:52.720
came up with. Oh, yeah. Next up, You Really Got

01:50:52.720 --> 01:50:56.500
Me. Both the Kinks and Van Halen. Because when

01:50:56.500 --> 01:51:00.600
the Kinks came out in 64, I think it was, 65,

01:51:00.800 --> 01:51:03.300
somewhere around there, that was kind of punk.

01:51:03.539 --> 01:51:06.439
At the time, no one had a name for it, but it

01:51:06.439 --> 01:51:09.819
was kind of punk. It would take another 10 years

01:51:09.819 --> 01:51:11.699
before people really started playing punk music.

01:51:12.060 --> 01:51:14.720
Yeah, but no, that was actually early punk. Yeah,

01:51:14.720 --> 01:51:17.039
because they made the guitar sound really scratchy

01:51:17.039 --> 01:51:19.180
and distorted, and they were intentionally trying

01:51:19.180 --> 01:51:21.720
to get it to sound bad. But, of course, nowadays

01:51:21.720 --> 01:51:24.239
it just sounds like, you know, low gain overdrive.

01:51:24.239 --> 01:51:27.180
Yeah, that's it, yeah. It's like, oh, you haven't

01:51:27.180 --> 01:51:32.220
heard anything yet. Yeah. Next up, Barracuda,

01:51:32.359 --> 01:51:36.460
My Heart. Yes. That crunchy guitar through a

01:51:36.460 --> 01:51:39.180
flanger. Yes. That sounds awesome. And then she

01:51:39.180 --> 01:51:41.859
hits all the harmonics. The harmonics. All up

01:51:41.859 --> 01:51:44.760
and down the neck. Very famous. Again, an SG

01:51:44.760 --> 01:51:47.439
with a whammy bar, which you don't see on a lot

01:51:47.439 --> 01:51:49.500
of SGs. No, you don't. That's how she played

01:51:49.500 --> 01:51:53.199
it. It's got to be put on there. Yep. This one's

01:51:53.199 --> 01:51:56.300
pretty easy. Walk This Way, Aerosmith. That guitar

01:51:56.300 --> 01:51:59.239
riff to start the song and all through the song

01:51:59.239 --> 01:52:01.340
is just, without it, it wouldn't be the song.

01:52:01.600 --> 01:52:04.699
It's just got to have that ka -chunk -a -chunk

01:52:04.699 --> 01:52:08.159
-a. Don't you love my professional terms? Yes,

01:52:08.180 --> 01:52:09.539
I do. It is Chunky Chunky. I had to go to school

01:52:09.539 --> 01:52:13.880
for that. All right. Satisfaction by the Stones.

01:52:14.159 --> 01:52:16.420
Yeah, of course. Not a real fan of the song,

01:52:16.539 --> 01:52:21.359
but it's super iconic. Yeah. I really like Devo's

01:52:21.359 --> 01:52:24.619
version. I do, too. It's so quirky and weird.

01:52:24.699 --> 01:52:25.779
I probably like it better, honestly. I think

01:52:25.779 --> 01:52:30.550
I kind of do, too. I saw Devo do that on Saturday

01:52:30.550 --> 01:52:33.630
Night Live back when nobody had heard of Devo

01:52:33.630 --> 01:52:36.550
before. My jaw was just on the floor. It was

01:52:36.550 --> 01:52:39.270
like, who the hell are these guys, and how did

01:52:39.270 --> 01:52:42.050
they manage to get on stage with this? And then

01:52:42.050 --> 01:52:44.729
it was like, I kind of like it. And then it was

01:52:44.729 --> 01:52:47.109
like, oh, my God, that's satisfaction by the

01:52:47.109 --> 01:52:50.170
stones. It didn't sound like it at first, so

01:52:50.170 --> 01:52:52.890
I did it. He did such a good version, though.

01:52:52.930 --> 01:52:57.539
I just loved it. Next up, Sweet Home Alabama

01:52:57.539 --> 01:53:01.659
by Lynyrd Skynyrd. And that's got the bonus of

01:53:01.659 --> 01:53:04.119
at the very beginning when... Yeah, he goes,

01:53:04.180 --> 01:53:07.460
let it go. Was it Ronnie Van Zandt? Ronnie Van

01:53:07.460 --> 01:53:09.659
Zandt. Yeah, when he says, turn it up. Turn it

01:53:09.659 --> 01:53:11.479
up, that was it. He was telling the sound engineer

01:53:11.479 --> 01:53:13.619
to turn up the volume of the headphones. But

01:53:13.619 --> 01:53:16.239
it just fits so perfectly. It's like, hey, we're

01:53:16.239 --> 01:53:17.720
going to leave that sucker in. It sounds perfect.

01:53:17.800 --> 01:53:20.380
The timing was just perfect. I love it. It's

01:53:20.380 --> 01:53:22.560
kind of like Pickin' 2, but it's actually an

01:53:22.560 --> 01:53:27.119
iconic riff. Yeah. Very good. Layla, Derek and

01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:29.739
the Dominoes. Yeah, definitely. I wish it actually

01:53:29.739 --> 01:53:32.000
was Eric Clapton and the Dominoes. Yeah, yeah,

01:53:32.000 --> 01:53:36.279
yeah. Why did he call himself Derek? I think

01:53:36.279 --> 01:53:39.920
he was trying to hide. Yeah, probably. Tax evasion,

01:53:39.939 --> 01:53:51.220
probably. Purple Haze, Jimi Hendrix. Yeah. And

01:53:51.220 --> 01:53:56.250
that was an accent. I guess he was on acid. Oh,

01:53:56.270 --> 01:53:58.989
most of the time. Yeah. And he didn't remember

01:53:58.989 --> 01:54:01.449
it. And every time he was on acid, he would do

01:54:01.449 --> 01:54:03.449
that. And then he'd go, hey. And people would

01:54:03.449 --> 01:54:06.229
go, hey, play that what you did last night. What

01:54:06.229 --> 01:54:10.409
did I play last night? Yeah. So they're like,

01:54:10.550 --> 01:54:12.949
all right, let's start recording him. Every time

01:54:12.949 --> 01:54:14.949
he does acid, just turn the tape or the machine

01:54:14.949 --> 01:54:17.210
on. Yeah. And then when he did that again, they

01:54:17.210 --> 01:54:18.909
go, that's what we're talking about. And he's

01:54:18.909 --> 01:54:21.250
like, oh, yeah, I kind of like that. Yeah. Started

01:54:21.250 --> 01:54:24.489
playing it. Became Purple Haze. There was a recording

01:54:24.489 --> 01:54:27.689
session when the Cooper Group was recording Billion

01:54:27.689 --> 01:54:32.909
Dollar Babies. And they had this basic party

01:54:32.909 --> 01:54:35.010
night in the studio. And all sorts of people

01:54:35.010 --> 01:54:37.890
showed up, other musicians. Donovan showed up,

01:54:37.930 --> 01:54:42.409
the guy who sang Mellow Yellow. And they just

01:54:42.409 --> 01:54:45.590
started doing crazy stuff and recorded it all.

01:54:45.789 --> 01:54:49.050
And one of the things they did was the song Billion

01:54:49.050 --> 01:54:52.390
Dollar Babies, where Alice and Donovan trade

01:54:52.390 --> 01:54:56.199
vocals. on each verse, and then they both sing

01:54:56.199 --> 01:54:58.239
the chorus together. Well, one sings and one

01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:00.260
talks, and then the second chorus, the other

01:55:00.260 --> 01:55:03.319
sings and the other talks. And they had started

01:55:03.319 --> 01:55:06.079
something like that on that party night and managed

01:55:06.079 --> 01:55:08.000
to record it, and the next day they're like,

01:55:08.100 --> 01:55:10.079
hey, we could do something with this. And they

01:55:10.079 --> 01:55:12.859
got Donovan to come back and do an actual good

01:55:12.859 --> 01:55:14.760
version of it, and it became the title track

01:55:14.760 --> 01:55:17.560
for the album. But it just spawned out of just

01:55:17.560 --> 01:55:22.039
a rager in the studio. Wow. It was one of my

01:55:22.039 --> 01:55:26.399
favorite drum intros. It's Billion Dollar Babies.

01:55:26.420 --> 01:55:31.680
Love it. Next up, I have Lagrange, ZZ Top. Oh,

01:55:31.680 --> 01:55:41.859
yeah. Sounds deceptively simple. It's not quite

01:55:41.859 --> 01:55:45.020
that easy to play. Make it sound good. At least

01:55:45.020 --> 01:55:50.710
not for me. Iron Man, Black Sabbath. Yes. Yeah,

01:55:50.789 --> 01:55:53.770
that intro. The instant you hear it, you know

01:55:53.770 --> 01:55:56.590
what it is and who it is. And that right there

01:55:56.590 --> 01:56:00.130
was something Tony Iommi was just doing. And

01:56:00.130 --> 01:56:04.409
I think it was Gieser said, that sounds good.

01:56:04.470 --> 01:56:06.869
I like that. And he's like, what? I'm just kind

01:56:06.869 --> 01:56:08.250
of doing it. Just jacking with bending the string.

01:56:08.489 --> 01:56:10.710
Yeah. He goes, nah. He goes, I think we could

01:56:10.710 --> 01:56:12.729
put that in something and it became Iron Man.

01:56:12.869 --> 01:56:17.020
Yeah. Oh, and actually, Tony Almey goes, I remember

01:56:17.020 --> 01:56:21.659
reading this, how about this riff? That's it.

01:56:22.159 --> 01:56:29.680
That's it. Back in Black, ACDC. Oh, yeah. I've

01:56:29.680 --> 01:56:31.640
learned to do that, but I'm still not very smooth

01:56:31.640 --> 01:56:34.180
or fluid in it. I can't do it quite at the speed

01:56:34.180 --> 01:56:37.340
yet. I can do it more slowly. And if I'm having

01:56:37.340 --> 01:56:40.670
a good day, I can do it kind of decent. There

01:56:40.670 --> 01:56:42.609
again, that's another thing that, for me, it's

01:56:42.609 --> 01:56:44.489
a really good finger exercise because it makes

01:56:44.489 --> 01:56:46.970
me reach and think and use alternate, you know,

01:56:46.970 --> 01:56:49.350
this finger and that finger, that finger on this

01:56:49.350 --> 01:56:51.789
string. He'll never get the credit he deserves

01:56:51.789 --> 01:56:55.810
because he's such an acrobat. Yeah. He did all

01:56:55.810 --> 01:56:58.350
the weird shit on stage in a little schoolboy

01:56:58.350 --> 01:57:00.710
outfit and all that. The guy's got as much energy

01:57:00.710 --> 01:57:03.529
as three people. I mean, this guy's like a fireball.

01:57:03.789 --> 01:57:07.149
Yeah. I mean, ACDC went on tour with Ted Nugent,

01:57:07.189 --> 01:57:09.699
and Nugent was not a druggie. You know, he was

01:57:09.699 --> 01:57:12.699
always clean and sober. And he said, I live a

01:57:12.699 --> 01:57:15.100
pretty healthy lifestyle, but watching that guy

01:57:15.100 --> 01:57:17.079
on stage every night, I don't know where he gets

01:57:17.079 --> 01:57:20.020
his energy from. He just never stops. And it

01:57:20.020 --> 01:57:22.319
wasn't cocaine either. No, no. Angus Young is

01:57:22.319 --> 01:57:25.060
a pretty clean guy too. Yeah, he drank, but...

01:57:25.060 --> 01:57:27.420
As much as his brother did. Yeah, his brother

01:57:27.420 --> 01:57:30.520
got dementia from drinking. Poor Malcolm, yeah.

01:57:30.520 --> 01:57:33.340
Alcohol -related dementia is pretty sad. Real

01:57:33.340 --> 01:57:39.050
sad. It's a very bad death. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. Crazy

01:57:39.050 --> 01:57:43.770
Train by Ozzy. Oh, yeah. And Randy Rhodes, thank

01:57:43.770 --> 01:57:45.630
you very much. I mean, it starts out with the

01:57:45.630 --> 01:57:47.569
voice. That's another finger exercise. The guitar

01:57:47.569 --> 01:57:51.949
coming in. Stretch your finger out, too. Yeah,

01:57:52.050 --> 01:57:55.470
yeah. Like playing the intro to Round and Round

01:57:55.470 --> 01:57:58.550
by Rapp. And then you reverse it, and it's the

01:57:58.550 --> 01:58:01.750
intro to Unchained by Van Halen. Yes. Exactly.

01:58:01.750 --> 01:58:03.930
Note for note, chord for chord, it's the exact

01:58:03.930 --> 01:58:06.979
same. They claim they didn't mean to do it. Uh

01:58:06.979 --> 01:58:09.279
-huh. Of course, that was Robin Crosby. He's

01:58:09.279 --> 01:58:14.119
dead. Yeah. So, you know, who knows? Yep. Robin

01:58:14.119 --> 01:58:16.420
Crosby was so good in that band that people never

01:58:16.420 --> 01:58:18.979
realized because Warren Demartini was the virtuoso.

01:58:19.180 --> 01:58:21.899
Yeah. But Robin Crosby wrote the crunchy stuff

01:58:21.899 --> 01:58:24.920
that were hits. He always did. You know who else

01:58:24.920 --> 01:58:26.739
they had as a guitar player for a while? Jakey

01:58:26.739 --> 01:58:31.319
Lee. Yeah. And? Mark Torian. Mark Torian, that's

01:58:31.319 --> 01:58:33.680
right. Of Bullet Boys. Yeah. Except in Bullet

01:58:33.680 --> 01:58:36.319
Boys, he was just a singer. And a hell of a singer.

01:58:36.670 --> 01:58:38.989
Yeah. Amazing range. He never played guitar in

01:58:38.989 --> 01:58:41.930
Bullet Boys, though. No. It was one guitar, one

01:58:41.930 --> 01:58:43.989
bass, one drum, one singer. I always wanted Van

01:58:43.989 --> 01:58:46.090
Halen to hire him after they were to rock. I

01:58:46.090 --> 01:58:47.850
was like, that's a perfect fit. They never did.

01:58:48.029 --> 01:58:50.270
Yeah. I think he would have fit in really well.

01:58:50.270 --> 01:58:51.449
I think so, too. I think he would have had a

01:58:51.449 --> 01:58:54.069
hell of a time. I think so, too. He was a lot

01:58:54.069 --> 01:58:56.130
of fun to watch. Yeah. He had the long blonde

01:58:56.130 --> 01:58:58.210
hair, and he was in shape, and he could jump

01:58:58.210 --> 01:59:01.170
around. He did all that cool stuff. But he was

01:59:01.170 --> 01:59:04.630
a good singer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He could shriek

01:59:04.630 --> 01:59:08.069
and scream. exactly on pitch. Yes. Which is quite,

01:59:08.189 --> 01:59:10.789
Robert Plant would shriek and scream always off

01:59:10.789 --> 01:59:12.770
key. Off key. Always that way out. It didn't

01:59:12.770 --> 01:59:15.770
matter though. Yeah, nobody cared. But Mark Torian,

01:59:15.829 --> 01:59:18.250
he was like right on that note. He sounded like

01:59:18.250 --> 01:59:20.529
he was chaotic and out of control and screaming,

01:59:20.550 --> 01:59:22.670
but he was exactly on that note. Oh, I know.

01:59:23.029 --> 01:59:24.630
Beautiful to listen to. I just love listening

01:59:24.630 --> 01:59:27.210
to that. I never really heard his guitars, but

01:59:27.210 --> 01:59:28.949
if he was in Ratty, he had to have been pretty

01:59:28.949 --> 01:59:31.050
good. Yeah, I just think they didn't like him

01:59:31.050 --> 01:59:33.229
too much anymore. Oh. He just couldn't get along.

01:59:33.569 --> 01:59:36.600
Oh, okay. That's probably. He was a born -again

01:59:36.600 --> 01:59:38.920
Christian, but he was still a real hard partier.

01:59:39.960 --> 01:59:42.619
He was the kind of guy that would go ahead and

01:59:42.619 --> 01:59:44.359
do it and then ask God for forgiveness later.

01:59:45.180 --> 01:59:48.500
I didn't mean all that last night. I'm sorry.

01:59:49.720 --> 01:59:52.600
I'm a different person as of this morning. Songs

01:59:52.600 --> 01:59:58.079
like Kissing Kitty and Do Me Raw. Smooth Up In

01:59:58.079 --> 02:00:03.840
Ya. What a verse. See, there's one song, I forget

02:00:03.840 --> 02:00:05.479
what it's called, where he's talking to this

02:00:05.479 --> 02:00:07.380
girl on the phone and she's already been with

02:00:07.380 --> 02:00:09.479
someone. He's like, well, hell, I just love a

02:00:09.479 --> 02:00:11.479
buttered bun. Bring it on over here tonight.

02:00:11.640 --> 02:00:18.500
He's like, dude, if you're into that, okay, but

02:00:18.500 --> 02:00:20.500
don't tell me about it. That band should have

02:00:20.500 --> 02:00:22.399
been much bigger. I think, yeah, they really

02:00:22.399 --> 02:00:24.819
should. One of their big problems was they could

02:00:24.819 --> 02:00:28.649
never write a full album. No. Let's see, their

02:00:28.649 --> 02:00:30.930
first album was just called Bullet Boys, and

02:00:30.930 --> 02:00:33.770
that was decent. Production quality was a little

02:00:33.770 --> 02:00:36.489
low. Yeah, they had two really good songs, and

02:00:36.489 --> 02:00:39.449
the rest were very forgetful. Yeah, and then

02:00:39.449 --> 02:00:45.829
the second one was Zaza. Zaza, yeah, and that

02:00:45.829 --> 02:00:48.270
one was a real letdown. No, the second one was

02:00:48.270 --> 02:00:50.210
Freak Show. Freak Show, yeah. Freak Show had

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some good tunes on it, THC Groove, Talk to Your

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Daughter. There's a couple more, but then it

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kind of filled it. TSC Prove kind of put them

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in a different kind of psychedelic category,

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and I think that hurt them because they were

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glam rock. They were, yeah. It was a good song,

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but it wasn't very well perceived by the glam

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community. And then Zaza was the third one, and

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that was short. It was like they didn't even

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have enough songs to fill it out. It was less

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than 40 minutes long. Yeah, I think their songwriters

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were not that good. Yeah. When Pigs Fly was a

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good song. That was a good song. And then Laughing

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With The Dead was a good song. Although another

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slow one like THC Groove and Hang On St. Christopher.

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And it really didn't do because Smooth Up In

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You was such a smash hit. Yeah, it was. And he

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had so much charisma and the high kicking and

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the screaming. But then they go to something

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like Zaza and it's like, wait a minute, what

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happened? Yeah. And then like the remake of For

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The Love Of Money. Didn't really fit him either.

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No, it was a great song and I really enjoyed

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it. I mean, the bass is awesome in that. But,

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yeah, it's like, what do you guys really do?

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There are two cover songs on that album, For

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the Love of Money and Talk to Your Daughter.

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Yeah. And it was kind of like they're a conflicted

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band. Yeah. They should have been much bigger,

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but anyhow. What could have been. Yeah. So I'm

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kind of all tapped out for that. All right. Well,

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I guess we could probably end this because the

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exact thing I forgot. I got some stuff I want

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to add to it. Okay. Coming up on two hours for

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this. All right, that's good. That's a pretty

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good, solid one. All right. All right, everybody,

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thank you for listening. Go fuck yourself.