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The Music Creeps, the only show anywhere with

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Gusto. You might ask yourself what Gusto is.

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Gusto was the magical secret ingredient in Schlitz

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beer that made it so damn good. And that's what

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makes this podcast so damn good. Oh hey, look

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at the time. It's time for the crazy ass word

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of the day. Numino Ultramicroscopic Silicovolcano

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Coniosis. Off and running. We are the music.

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Creeps. We are the music. Creeps. We are. Okay,

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there we go. That was it. I cracked myself up.

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You know, I keep promising to record this. I

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like it just like this. It's random and chaotic.

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Yeah, and I never know what shit you're going

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to find the drum on. I've been finding things

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to bang on since I think the day I was born.

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There's a great school teacher telling me to

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quit banging on the desk with my pencils. People

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using different kitchen utensils to play Nirvana.

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Yeah, I used wooden spoons a lot. I'd go out

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and find sticks in the yard. Yeah. Anything that

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sounded different or a different percussion,

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it's like, hey, this will work too. A friend

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of mine in grade school actually did. play the

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drums, and he gave me a pair of his old drumsticks,

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so I was going to town with those. Oh, you were

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hitting everything. My mom took them away. Of

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course. Well, I was damaging things, so I can

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understand that. She should have just bought

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me a practice pad. Christopher? Yeah? You know

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anything about this vase? No. Why are there holes

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all over the dashboard of my car? Nothing? I

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mean, wipeout? I mean, no? A bug. A bug. Giant

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bug. All right. So, musical stuff. You got a

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little bonus music stuff on the Sports Bastards.

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Yeah, yeah. So you ought to be happy. You have

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some stuff while I look up some of the stuff

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that I had written down. Yeah. I've either got

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guitar players who are underappreciated for their

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rhythm guitaring. That's good. Let's go to that.

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All right. Because I can add some right off the

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bat. Yeah. First and foremost, I've got Malcolm

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Young, ACDC. Oh, God, yeah. Even with all the

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credit he gets, it's not enough. I agree. I'm

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just going to put it that way. When he was failing

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in health, then their brother Stevie Young filled

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in, who looks almost exactly like him, so people

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couldn't tell. Uh -huh. He'd kind of get an honorable

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mention, but he was just playing parts that Malcolm

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wrote. Which, you know, that's half the work.

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So it's definitely got to go to Malcolm because

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he originated those parts, he played them perfectly,

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and he was rock solid. I mean, dead steady. Yeah,

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I agree. Next up, I'm going to see James Hetfield,

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Metallica. Because Mr. Wah pedal, Kirk Hamnett,

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gets most of the solos. Yeah, that's right. And

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I agree. I agree with that. Pretty much every

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time you hear a wah pedal going, that's Kirk

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Hamnett taking a solo. Yeah, and you know our

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version on what we think of wah -wah pedals,

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especially when you're doing a solo. Yeah. They're

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cheap. It means you don't know the emotion that

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you're trying to portray. Less is more. Less

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is way more. Yes. Yeah, they're way more effective

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on rhythm guitar. I agree. In my opinion. What

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do I know? I'm just an idiot drummer, right?

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Let's see. There's always Mick Mars. Definitely.

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To some degree, I think that Vinnie Vincent had

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that same thing. True. Yeah, I mean, he had some

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stuff that was way out there and he was fast.

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But some of the rhythms that he did on Creatures

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of the Night and Lick It Up. were really, really

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intense and really good. I would put Paul Stanley

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in there, too. I would, too. And that's where

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I was going to, Paul Stanley. Yeah, it was primarily

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Ace and then whoever replaced Ace were the lead

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guitarists, which makes more sense. Paul is doing

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a hell of a lot more singing. Although Paul does

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play a lot of lead now, or he did. And from what

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I understood, it was out of necessity because

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Ace would be all... messed up and he'd have to

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carry it. Plus it was kind of the image of the

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band to have Ace doing the leads and Spotlight

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goes to him. I agree. I would say Keith Richards

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of the Stones. Very much so. Excellent rhythm

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guitar player. And has been for probably the

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last 250 years. Yes. If not longer. Here's one

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out of the past. Chuck Berry. Oh, yeah. He was

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fast, but, man, he could play that rhythm. Yeah.

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I like that one a lot. And he could do that while

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duck walking. Yes. Which you've got to have good

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knees to do that, man. I couldn't do that when

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I was young. Yep. No, me neither. Especially

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just playing guitar and doing something like

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that. Yeah. What about Bob Weir? of the Grateful

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Dead. Not really a fan of their music, but gotta

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give him credit for being dead solid, especially

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considering how many drugs he was on at any given

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moment. Yeah. I think that's pretty solid rhythm

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guitar. Oh, I agree. And also, Mark Knoppler.

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Yes. Mark Knoppler is so underrated as a rhythm.

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And before that, his brother Dave Knoppler, who

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was in Dire Straits. through, I think, the album

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Making Movies. That's right, and then he went

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out on Making Movies. He replaced his brother

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Dave Knopfler and the drummer Pick Withers. Pick

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Withers, yeah. Who I really liked Pick Withers

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as a drummer. I thought he was awesome, but he

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was doing a different sound. Since Mark Knopfler

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was basically becoming all of Dire Straits at

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that point, he decided to go whichever direction

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he wanted. It would have been Mark Knopfler's

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solo career. Yeah. Except, you know, he had the

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ability to just do it into the name. Yeah, I

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don't blame him. What about John Lennon? Yeah.

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George took all the leads, pretty much. Yeah.

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I would say so, yeah. Yeah, I would say so. It's

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a song that's like revolution. You know, he gets

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that real early punk feel. Helter Skelter is

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like out of control. Yeah, Helter Skelter was,

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yeah. Yeah. And then he could play the soft and

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pretty ones like Yesterday. Jimmy Page. Yeah.

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Yeah. As sloppy as he was, it worked and worked

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really well. He's like Steve Clark of Def Leppard.

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Yes. Where he was sloppy, but his rhythm playing

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was just perfect for what they were doing. I

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agree. Yeah. I agree. I should have written Steve

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Clark down. Let's see. What next? Dave Mustaine?

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Yes. Yes. I think in Metallica he was more of

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a lead player, but in Megadeth he plays a heck

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of a lot of rhythm. I agree. He holds himself

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to a very high standard. I think a little dragonfly

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went down my throat. Whoa, that was crazy. Part

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of Dave Mustaine's greatest achievement besides

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great rhythm guitar is his songwriting ability

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with the rhythm. True. So I would agree with

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that 100%. Wow. Some sort of flying thing just

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went straight down my throat. That was nasty.

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Sorry about that. That sucks. Here's one not

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everybody will know about. Nile Rodgers. He was

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a producer, songwriter, rhythm guitar player.

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His band was called Chic. Remember that song,

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Freak Out? Yeah. Yeah. So he played rhythm guitar

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on way more songs than you know. I think that's

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a good choice. Scott Ian of Anthrax. Another

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good one. He's not the lead player. I agree.

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Tony Iommi. Yeah, I've got him last in all capitals.

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Yeah, of course. I was going to put him first,

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but yeah. And I've got two, and just listen to

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me on this, Richie Blackmore and John Lord. Ah.

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John Lord was a keyboardist, but he played it

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like a guitar. He did. He played rhythm guitar

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on keys. He really did. Yeah, he did. And a lot

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of times, Blackmore would follow him, and if

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Blackmore was in a solo, he kept the rhythm going

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with the keyboards. I would put... Tom Peterson

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of Cheap Trick in there. That's a good one, yeah.

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Because he played rhythm guitar on the bass.

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And he also has his bass. The 12 -stringer. The

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12 -stringer that you can turn over and actually

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be a guitar. That thing, one of the most noted

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ones that a lot of people don't know about it,

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about his bass, is Jeremy. The notes that you

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hear on that, that you're not sure what the hell

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it is. It took me a while to figure out what

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was making those sounds. Yeah. It is actually

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Tom Peterson's bass. Yeah. Played by Stone Gossard.

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Yeah, Stone Gossard. Doesn't hurt. No, wait.

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Stone Gossard was a guitar player. No, no, no.

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It was... Oh, gosh. Jeff Ament. Yes, thank you.

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Thank you. Sorry, Stone. Sorry, Jeff. I think

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I've been saying Stone Gossard for a long time.

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Yeah, he was a guitarist. I don't know why I

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fell in for him. Okay. Rudy Shanker of the Scorpions.

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That's a good one. Yeah. I agree. Been solid

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for years. Izzy Stradlin from GNR. One of my

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favorite, actually. Yeah, you mentioned that

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last time. I wanted to make sure he was on the

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list. Yeah, he's awesome. And we mentioned Brad

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Whitford from Aerosmith. Absolutely. There comes

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that dragonfly back out. Here's one close to

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your heart. Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden. Oh,

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yes. I figured you'd get that. And Dave Murray,

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too. Yeah. what's his name uh janik janik gears

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yeah he's their third guitarist and he is bruce

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dickinson's guitarist for a long time um he doesn't

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play any rhythm that i can tell so we can't really

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include him in on it he's more of a guy um i

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put in steve proper He was the rhythm guitar

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player for Booker T and the MGs. Yeah. And they

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were the house band at Stax Records. So all those

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things you heard from Otis Redding and Wilson

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Pickett and all those bands that are released

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on Stax Records, that was Steve Cropper on rhythm

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guitar. Oh, okay. So basically, people would

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come in with a song, and they would sing it,

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and the house band would play it. Yeah. And that

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was Steve Cropper over and over and over. And

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he was in the Blues Brothers movie, in case you

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want to see him there. Oh, okay. Jerry Cantrell.

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Oh, yeah. That guy. He's another one that his

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rhythms write the songs. Yeah. He's a songwriter

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that comes up with these incredible rhythms,

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kind of like Iommi. It's not just the notes or

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the way you shape the chords. It's the syncopation.

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The syncopation. Yeah. It's amazing. The way

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he hits the notes, the way he hits the chords

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in sync. Makes the whole feeling of the song.

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Yeah. You can tell if it's an angry song, a happy

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song, a sad song. A threatening song. A threatening

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song, and there's a few of them. So, yeah. All

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right, Alex Lifeson, Rush. Oh, very good, yes.

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Because there were bass, at times the bass was

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the lead, there were times where the drums were

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the lead, there were times the keyboard was the

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lead, Alex was rock steady. His tone, though.

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Yeah. His tone. And I didn't learn until later

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that from their beginning through, I think, 2112,

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Alex Lifeson really had only one guitar. It was

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a Gibson semi -hollow body ES -335. And that

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was all he could afford, his one good guitar.

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So that was a semi -hollow body playing all those

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Rush records. That guy never got enough credit

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and never will. You know, he was going to do

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a solo thing. I wanted to hear it so bad, but

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he never did. He's now selling... His signature

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guitar. Yeah. So that's very cool. Lindsey Buckingham.

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Yes. That's another good one. And that's interesting

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because he never wanted to play electric guitar.

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Yeah. Yeah. Mick Fleetwood went out and bought

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him a Les Paul and said, here, play the damn

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thing. We need rock and roll records. Yes. I've

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got Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam down for rhythm.

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Yeah. I said Keith Richards earlier. The other

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guitar player, Ron Wood. Oh, yeah. Because he

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also played with The Faces and Rod Stewart, Jeff

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Beck. Jeff Beck is another one that you can say.

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Yeah, and when you're playing with Jeff Beck,

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you're playing a lot of rhythm. Yes. Because

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he's doing the leads. Yes. So I'm saying yes.

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Yeah, Ron Wood is an excellent rhythm player.

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Yeah. Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane. Very

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much so. Yeah. Very underrated, too. And he was

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a big songwriter for them, too. Yeah, I mean,

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a lot of them really liked Jane and stuff like

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that. I think that was Starship when they were

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just Starship. But Miracles and what are some

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of the Jefferson Airplane hits? Somebody to Love,

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another one. Of course, White Rabbit. White Rabbit.

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I think that was Jorma Calconen. Okay, did he

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do Jane or not? I think he was still with them

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during that album. I think he dropped off after

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Knee Deep in the Hoopla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And

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I understand why, too. Yeah, it was just designed

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to be commercial and not so much about the music.

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If I Borrow Your Pet, I got a worse song. It

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was their number one hit. Thank you. And then

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the last one I have was Robin Zander, but I think

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I want to replace him with Tom Peterson. Since,

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like we talked about earlier, I think he was

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playing a lot more of the rhythms than Robin

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was, especially live. Okay. I agree. I just had

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to write down the song and the worst ones that

00:16:24.240 --> 00:16:28.879
I thought. So I have got... that's it that's

00:16:28.879 --> 00:16:30.960
it i got for rhythm guitar players okay do you

00:16:30.960 --> 00:16:33.559
want to do the worst songs or the best or the

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uh yeah it's kind of a the category is you know

00:16:37.960 --> 00:16:41.340
a successful band but their biggest hit was either

00:16:41.340 --> 00:16:44.399
mediocre or their worst song or they hate playing

00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.740
it or Somehow their biggest song, the one they're

00:16:47.740 --> 00:16:50.159
most known for, just isn't really their best

00:16:50.159 --> 00:16:52.580
song. We just touched on it. I had to write it

00:16:52.580 --> 00:16:54.360
down, but it turns out I didn't have to write

00:16:54.360 --> 00:16:56.700
it down. Starship, We Built This City. Yeah.

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Was their biggest hit. Awful. And it was awful.

00:17:00.360 --> 00:17:03.159
Just an awful song. The whole album was pretty

00:17:03.159 --> 00:17:06.500
awful. It was. And that's why Kattner, I'm pretty

00:17:06.500 --> 00:17:09.240
sure, said, nah, don't thank I. I think he bailed

00:17:09.240 --> 00:17:11.279
at that point. I think so too. See you guys.

00:17:12.660 --> 00:17:18.410
Sticks. Oh, did I? Kilroy was here. Yeah, yeah.

00:17:18.710 --> 00:17:21.150
Mr. Roboto. Mr. Roboto was here. That was it,

00:17:21.150 --> 00:17:23.269
yeah. I think I saw that on the list. I forgot

00:17:23.269 --> 00:17:26.369
to write it down. They have so many songs that

00:17:26.369 --> 00:17:31.450
are a hundred times better. Oh, I know. Oasis.

00:17:31.890 --> 00:17:35.190
Yeah. Wonderwall. Absolutely. Wonderwall is,

00:17:35.269 --> 00:17:39.009
it's okay, but it's, there's just, there's not

00:17:39.009 --> 00:17:42.849
much there. No. No, it's kind of a lame song,

00:17:42.930 --> 00:17:46.009
and it's just written for radio play. Yeah, it's

00:17:46.009 --> 00:17:49.170
kind of unfinished. It's like, this should be

00:17:49.170 --> 00:17:52.230
part of another song. It needs to go somewhere

00:17:52.230 --> 00:17:58.450
from here. Radiohead, Creep. That's a good one.

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Yeah. That's another one that the band really

00:18:00.910 --> 00:18:04.150
doesn't like to play much anymore. No. Those

00:18:04.150 --> 00:18:08.369
wild, crashing rhythm guitar sounds that happened

00:18:08.369 --> 00:18:10.529
right before the chorus, that was the rhythm

00:18:10.529 --> 00:18:12.609
guitar trying to sabotage the recording because

00:18:12.609 --> 00:18:15.789
he hated the song so much. But they left it in.

00:18:16.529 --> 00:18:20.910
Too bad he didn't. Yeah. Billy Joel, We Didn't

00:18:20.910 --> 00:18:25.579
Start the Fire. Yeah. That's... It's like a gimmick

00:18:25.579 --> 00:18:31.000
song. It's the rapid -fire delivery, the auctioneer

00:18:31.000 --> 00:18:34.440
kind of vibe. It's fun, but it's kind of a gimmick

00:18:34.440 --> 00:18:36.900
song. He has so many more songs that are so much

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more meaningful. She knows how awful and irritating

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I am. How about the pretenders? Yes, I've got

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that one too. I'm going to cross that one off.

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In fact, the singer Chrissy Hynde really didn't

00:18:51.099 --> 00:18:53.380
like that either. They had to kind of talk her

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into doing it. Yeah. Uh, where is that? I have

00:18:56.990 --> 00:18:59.289
that written down. There it is. Off it goes.

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Um, I've spoken to this many times with Guns

00:19:03.230 --> 00:19:08.789
N' Roses, Sweet Child, Earl, mine. Yeah. Yeah.

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Um. Number one hit. It had a great hook to it.

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Yeah, it did. That's about it. But ironically,

00:19:16.359 --> 00:19:20.680
the hook is a finger exercise that Slash saw

00:19:20.680 --> 00:19:23.079
in a book. And it was something he would do to

00:19:23.079 --> 00:19:24.819
limber up his fingers. And he's like, oh, I'll

00:19:24.819 --> 00:19:29.640
make that a song. It worked. It worked. Life

00:19:29.640 --> 00:19:31.980
in the Fast Lane started as a finger exercise.

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You did it? Yep. Yep. Dust in the Wind was a

00:19:40.039 --> 00:19:42.619
finger exercise that Cary Livren did. And his

00:19:42.619 --> 00:19:45.319
wife kept saying, there's a song there. You've

00:19:45.319 --> 00:19:47.420
got to write that. That's going to be a song.

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And he finally did an enormous hit. That was

00:19:50.839 --> 00:19:56.660
her biggest song. Madonna, Like a Virgin. Yes.

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That song is horrendous. Same with Material Girl,

00:20:01.799 --> 00:20:04.180
but that wasn't quite a hit. What is it? Material

00:20:04.180 --> 00:20:07.059
Girl, that was also a horrible song. You know,

00:20:07.079 --> 00:20:09.779
yeah, it's kind of a... That could be debated

00:20:09.779 --> 00:20:12.400
which song was worse. Yeah. I think maybe Material

00:20:12.400 --> 00:20:16.259
Girl might be a little bit worse. Yeah. Here's

00:20:16.259 --> 00:20:19.690
a band from the 70s, early 80s, Squeeze. They

00:20:19.690 --> 00:20:22.849
had a hit with Tempted. Yes. Tempted by the fruit

00:20:22.849 --> 00:20:25.609
of another. I think it's horrible. It's okay.

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It's good for listening to in the background

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while there's a game on. It's a radio song. Yeah.

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There's so much better songs from them. A lot

00:20:35.190 --> 00:20:37.289
of people say that I'm not on board with this.

00:20:37.890 --> 00:20:40.430
Nirvana smells like teen spirit. That made my

00:20:40.430 --> 00:20:42.869
list, too. I think that's a good song. I do,

00:20:42.930 --> 00:20:45.509
too. Granted, they have better ones, but it's

00:20:45.509 --> 00:20:48.829
not a bad song. It is a good song. Yeah, I've

00:20:48.829 --> 00:20:50.809
never agreed to that. That's been going a long

00:20:50.809 --> 00:20:54.309
time. A lot of people have been saying that.

00:20:54.349 --> 00:20:58.170
No, no, look at their body at work. I think some

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of the stuff on the second side of the utero

00:21:00.289 --> 00:21:04.529
is probably worse. Yeah. And I think it smells

00:21:04.529 --> 00:21:06.410
like teen spirit kind of captured what they're

00:21:06.410 --> 00:21:09.349
saying. I think so. It was the perfect intro

00:21:09.349 --> 00:21:11.569
to the band. I mean, it was the perfect first

00:21:11.569 --> 00:21:13.230
impression, that's what I should say, for the

00:21:13.230 --> 00:21:14.890
hand. I thought it was great. Yeah, I thought

00:21:14.890 --> 00:21:17.190
so too. It was an apathy song, and it worked.

00:21:17.289 --> 00:21:19.349
Everyone's like, ah, fuck this, I'm not doing

00:21:19.349 --> 00:21:23.150
it. Remember the original Top Gun movie? The

00:21:23.150 --> 00:21:25.549
theme music was Take My Breath Away by Berlin.

00:21:26.430 --> 00:21:29.970
Worst song they ever put out. Ironically, it's

00:21:29.970 --> 00:21:32.380
the one they didn't write. They were just hired

00:21:32.380 --> 00:21:35.480
to perform it for the soundtrack. What hit on

00:21:35.480 --> 00:21:38.900
that was the bass. Yeah. Yeah, kind of a synthesized

00:21:38.900 --> 00:21:42.859
bass. Yeah. The guitar player for Berlin quit

00:21:42.859 --> 00:21:45.900
over that song because he hated playing it live

00:21:45.900 --> 00:21:48.319
as their encore because he's like, we didn't

00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:50.339
even write this and it's a shit song. I hate

00:21:50.339 --> 00:21:53.000
playing this as my encore. So he just quit the

00:21:53.000 --> 00:21:55.759
band. Stick to his convictions. Got standards.

00:21:56.160 --> 00:21:58.140
Yeah. You know what? Nothing wrong with that,

00:21:58.160 --> 00:22:02.079
man. Yeah. All right, Warrant. Cherry Pie. Yep,

00:22:02.160 --> 00:22:03.759
I got that one. I'm going to cross it off right

00:22:03.759 --> 00:22:08.079
now. Warrant was okay. Cherry Pie sucked. Yeah.

00:22:09.380 --> 00:22:14.880
It was written for teenagers. Yeah. Go ahead,

00:22:14.960 --> 00:22:16.579
what? It was written for Beavis and Butthead.

00:22:16.740 --> 00:22:19.779
Yes. Basically, yeah. And they had another song

00:22:19.779 --> 00:22:22.839
that was released as a single that... became

00:22:22.839 --> 00:22:25.200
quite unfortunate for them called Uncle Tom's

00:22:25.200 --> 00:22:28.400
Cabin. Yes, it was a great song, but the theme

00:22:28.400 --> 00:22:33.119
automatically didn't. The title. Just mentioning

00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.460
that book title is going to set a whole bunch

00:22:35.460 --> 00:22:37.180
of people's teeth on edge. And did you know that's

00:22:37.180 --> 00:22:40.640
off of a true story? The guy had an Uncle Tom,

00:22:40.759 --> 00:22:44.140
and the sheriff's like killed somebody and threw

00:22:44.140 --> 00:22:48.099
him in a well. And that was, he said that was

00:22:48.099 --> 00:22:49.980
real. He said that is something that happened.

00:22:50.720 --> 00:22:54.480
But what has come to represent is now all that

00:22:54.480 --> 00:22:55.940
we think about. He should have changed the name

00:22:55.940 --> 00:23:01.059
to Uncle Jerry or something. Yeah, but the way

00:23:01.059 --> 00:23:04.319
he made the point during the song, you couldn't

00:23:04.319 --> 00:23:09.160
tell what exactly he was talking about. And any

00:23:09.160 --> 00:23:12.880
way it came out, it sounded awkward and slightly

00:23:12.880 --> 00:23:17.920
offensive and very easily taken wrong. So yeah,

00:23:18.000 --> 00:23:20.140
they should have changed the name to Uncle Jerry.

00:23:20.279 --> 00:23:23.900
Jerry or, you know, Uncle Wilhelmina. Well, he

00:23:23.900 --> 00:23:26.720
tried to stick with the real name of his uncle's

00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.900
story or whatever. Call it Uncle Thomas. Uncle

00:23:29.900 --> 00:23:32.319
Thomas. You know, call it Uncle Tommy. Or you

00:23:32.319 --> 00:23:35.920
know, call it his lodge. You know, but somebody

00:23:35.920 --> 00:23:39.220
said, oh, let's use Uncle Tom's Cabin as the

00:23:39.220 --> 00:23:41.119
title because that will get people's attention.

00:23:41.440 --> 00:23:43.640
Them coming out in blackface, didn't they? No,

00:23:43.740 --> 00:23:46.000
that didn't work. No, they did not. They did

00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:51.839
not. That would be funny as hell. Yeah, they

00:23:51.839 --> 00:23:55.660
did not. That's a joke. All right. Here's a good

00:23:55.660 --> 00:23:58.640
one. Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead. Butthole Surfers,

00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:01.740
Pepper. Oh, yes. Was their biggest hit. Yeah.

00:24:02.160 --> 00:24:06.000
I don't mind the sun sometimes, the images it

00:24:06.000 --> 00:24:08.980
shows. On and on and on. They had so many better

00:24:08.980 --> 00:24:10.960
songs. I mean, that was okay, and it got them

00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:13.779
some radio airplay. It was horrible. They had

00:24:13.779 --> 00:24:16.089
so much better songs than that. Yeah. They had

00:24:16.089 --> 00:24:18.990
a lot better songs. And before that song, that's

00:24:18.990 --> 00:24:20.730
when they started shifting and becoming more

00:24:20.730 --> 00:24:26.769
radio. I've seen a number of past band members

00:24:26.769 --> 00:24:28.849
from the Butthole Surfers and the Melvins have

00:24:28.849 --> 00:24:32.089
been selling off their road gear on a used website,

00:24:32.410 --> 00:24:35.369
Reverb .com, which incidentally just got bought

00:24:35.369 --> 00:24:38.230
by Fender. They did? Yeah, who knows how that's

00:24:38.230 --> 00:24:39.869
going to change things. And I noticed suddenly

00:24:39.869 --> 00:24:42.089
Fender products are featured way more prominently

00:24:42.089 --> 00:24:46.029
on Reverb .com. I'm sure that's... but there

00:24:46.029 --> 00:24:50.910
was like this 400 or 800 watt bass amp and cabinet

00:24:50.910 --> 00:24:54.650
that was used by the melvins and they still had

00:24:54.650 --> 00:24:57.950
the set list taped to the side and all the tubes

00:24:57.950 --> 00:25:00.710
were new and it was like i don't know it was

00:25:00.710 --> 00:25:04.750
like 12 grand or something it was just nuts but

00:25:04.750 --> 00:25:06.950
the stories that i mean that thing probably had

00:25:06.950 --> 00:25:09.930
to smell awful considering all the concerts it

00:25:09.930 --> 00:25:13.630
went to i would have loved to had it if i had

00:25:13.630 --> 00:25:17.529
12 grand to throw away Yeah. All right. How about

00:25:17.529 --> 00:25:22.950
REM, Shiny Happy People? Yes. Yes. I'm not a

00:25:22.950 --> 00:25:25.990
huge REM fan. They have probably a handful of

00:25:25.990 --> 00:25:28.849
songs that I like and listen to. Yeah. But not

00:25:28.849 --> 00:25:31.569
that one. I agree. Definitely not that one. I

00:25:31.569 --> 00:25:35.930
would put the B -52s with Rock Lobster as their

00:25:35.930 --> 00:25:39.369
worst song. Because even Sugar Shack was better.

00:25:39.990 --> 00:25:42.369
Or Love Shack. Yeah, it was Love Shack. Love

00:25:42.369 --> 00:25:47.049
Shack was better than Rock Lobster. Oh, I agree.

00:25:47.430 --> 00:25:52.509
How about Metallica, Until It Sleeps? Their 90s

00:25:52.509 --> 00:25:56.150
try, and I'm not sure if it was their biggest

00:25:56.150 --> 00:25:58.750
hit, but it was a big hit. They were horrible

00:25:58.750 --> 00:26:01.230
on that. Anyhow, you're getting ready to say

00:26:01.230 --> 00:26:05.069
one. Go ahead. Here's a couple that are pretty

00:26:05.069 --> 00:26:07.730
obvious. Deep Purple, Smoke on the Water. Yeah.

00:26:08.390 --> 00:26:11.910
I mean, throw a dart at any Deep Purple album,

00:26:12.029 --> 00:26:14.680
and you'll hit a better song. Yes. And not the

00:26:14.680 --> 00:26:16.519
Smoke in the Water is terrible. Especially on

00:26:16.519 --> 00:26:19.460
that album. Yeah. It's a fine song as it is,

00:26:19.500 --> 00:26:22.579
but oh my God, the radio play it got was totally

00:26:22.579 --> 00:26:26.279
undeserved. Well, part of Richie Blackmore's

00:26:26.279 --> 00:26:30.539
documentary, for throughout the 70s and most

00:26:30.539 --> 00:26:33.579
of the 80s, they had to have a sign on all the

00:26:33.579 --> 00:26:36.200
music stores that said, do not play Smoke on

00:26:36.200 --> 00:26:39.779
the Water. Yep. And sometimes they abbreviate

00:26:39.779 --> 00:26:43.160
it as 0 -3 -5, which is the chords you're playing

00:26:43.160 --> 00:26:45.900
to zero position, three, and then five. And they'd

00:26:45.900 --> 00:26:48.619
have 0 -3 -5 with a red circle and line through

00:26:48.619 --> 00:26:51.619
it. And then they could write, this is Richie

00:26:51.619 --> 00:26:54.059
Blackmore's approved way of playing it. Nothing

00:26:54.059 --> 00:26:59.740
else. Yes. Yeah, there's still music stories.

00:26:59.779 --> 00:27:03.900
You can play Stairway or Mustang Sally or...

00:27:04.650 --> 00:27:06.589
Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd. Oh, yeah, that's

00:27:06.589 --> 00:27:08.609
another one. It'll run your ass right out. Yep.

00:27:09.910 --> 00:27:12.789
The second very obvious one is Def Leppard, Pour

00:27:12.789 --> 00:27:16.890
Some Sugar On Me. Yes. Oh, I hate that one. I

00:27:16.890 --> 00:27:20.710
turned that one off. No, I do too. The first

00:27:20.710 --> 00:27:24.230
150 times I heard it, it was okay. You ever hear

00:27:24.230 --> 00:27:28.390
the term butt rock? Yes. There. Yep. All right.

00:27:28.509 --> 00:27:30.950
And especially from a band like Def Leppard that

00:27:30.950 --> 00:27:33.210
is fully capable of writing really good hard

00:27:33.210 --> 00:27:36.390
rock songs. Yeah. Yeah, well, as they tell you

00:27:36.390 --> 00:27:40.650
in their documentary, the album, the record label

00:27:40.650 --> 00:27:43.750
wanted one more song to fill out the album, so

00:27:43.750 --> 00:27:46.009
they went off in a hurry and wrote Pour Some

00:27:46.009 --> 00:27:47.750
Sugar On Me and threw it together in a couple

00:27:47.750 --> 00:27:49.549
days and recorded it, and they didn't think it

00:27:49.549 --> 00:27:51.730
was going to be anything. It winds up being the

00:27:51.730 --> 00:27:54.769
massive hit. But to them, it was just a throwaway,

00:27:54.809 --> 00:27:56.369
last -minute kind of thing. They didn't even

00:27:56.369 --> 00:27:58.529
think about it too hard. Also, another thing

00:27:58.529 --> 00:28:00.970
that happened there was that was also a DJ pick.

00:28:01.269 --> 00:28:07.599
Yes. That was the backside of... Animal? Could

00:28:07.599 --> 00:28:11.720
have been Animal. No, it was not Hysteria. No,

00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:16.460
Animal was on Hysteria, you're right. I think

00:28:16.460 --> 00:28:19.500
one of the hits was on Hysteria. Was it Rock

00:28:19.500 --> 00:28:22.980
Rock Till You Drop? That was probably it. Yeah,

00:28:23.019 --> 00:28:26.309
which didn't do that well. It did okay. And then

00:28:26.309 --> 00:28:28.410
the flip side was Pour Some Sugar On Me, and

00:28:28.410 --> 00:28:31.109
that became a hit way, like three years after

00:28:31.109 --> 00:28:34.009
the album was released. I think the first time

00:28:34.009 --> 00:28:36.509
Pour Some Sugar On Me hit the radio airwaves,

00:28:36.529 --> 00:28:38.670
every stripper in the country raised their head

00:28:38.670 --> 00:28:41.210
like, they're playing the song of my people.

00:28:41.470 --> 00:28:45.349
Yes. And that became the stripper's song. It

00:28:45.349 --> 00:28:47.269
probably still is. It probably still is, yeah.

00:28:47.910 --> 00:28:51.779
How about the Beastie Boys? Oh, yes. Fight for

00:28:51.779 --> 00:28:55.059
Your Ride is a ridiculously horrible song. Yeah,

00:28:55.140 --> 00:28:58.099
and they wrote it to be a bad song, and they

00:28:58.099 --> 00:29:01.359
wrote the lyrics, making fun of party boys. And

00:29:01.359 --> 00:29:03.700
who adopted the song and used it as their anthem?

00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:08.839
Party boys. Party boys, yeah. Nothing like standing

00:29:08.839 --> 00:29:11.900
around chanting the song that says, I'm an idiot,

00:29:12.019 --> 00:29:18.180
I'm stupid, my life is pointless. Yes. I guess

00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.880
just hilarious watching. And Travis Kelsey, when

00:29:20.880 --> 00:29:22.759
they won the Super Bowl, he kept chanting us

00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:25.039
that, okay, Kelsey, you're one of those idiot

00:29:25.039 --> 00:29:27.160
loser party boys that they were singing about.

00:29:27.519 --> 00:29:29.500
When you're drunk off your ass, you're one of

00:29:29.500 --> 00:29:32.039
those idiot loser party boys. Yes, he's a guy

00:29:32.039 --> 00:29:35.500
that's, he's at Margarita's drinking a big margarita.

00:29:35.720 --> 00:29:39.900
Yep. Yeah. With a tank top. Screaming, woo -woo!

00:29:41.640 --> 00:29:45.180
All right. The Who, Pinball Wizard. Oh, absolutely.

00:29:45.400 --> 00:29:47.660
I had that one. Yeah, this was not their biggest

00:29:47.660 --> 00:29:50.339
hit, but it was big enough to bitch about. I

00:29:50.339 --> 00:29:55.339
remember hearing it nonstop one year in my youth.

00:29:55.519 --> 00:29:58.819
It was like 12 months of Pinball Wizard. And

00:29:58.819 --> 00:30:00.920
then Elton John did a remake when the movie came

00:30:00.920 --> 00:30:03.700
out. And then we had to hear it all over again.

00:30:03.759 --> 00:30:09.640
Oh, kill me now. Kill me or kill the radio. Just

00:30:09.640 --> 00:30:17.200
pick one. How about Blue Oyster Cult, Don't Fear

00:30:17.200 --> 00:30:20.799
the Reaper? Yes, absolutely. I think I had that

00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.440
on my alternate list. Yeah, so many better songs.

00:30:24.700 --> 00:30:27.539
That whole album was just packed with killer

00:30:27.539 --> 00:30:30.160
songs. Was that Agents of Fortune? Yes. Yeah,

00:30:30.279 --> 00:30:34.579
so good. Yeah, there's so many songs. Like the

00:30:34.579 --> 00:30:41.140
tone off City in Flames. With rock and roll.

00:30:41.339 --> 00:30:43.960
Yep. That guitar tone on that is just insane.

00:30:44.039 --> 00:30:46.579
I think I was talking about another song, but

00:30:46.579 --> 00:30:49.660
that's the song I meant. Yeah. Was City of Flames

00:30:49.660 --> 00:30:52.240
with rock and roll. That tone on that guitar,

00:30:52.400 --> 00:30:54.259
I don't know how the hell he does it. Is that

00:30:54.259 --> 00:30:58.140
Buck Dharma? Buck Dharma was one, and Alan Bouchard

00:30:58.140 --> 00:30:59.799
was the other. I think it might have been Bouchard.

00:30:59.839 --> 00:31:02.599
Yeah. But Bouchard, the tone that he gets on

00:31:02.599 --> 00:31:05.519
that thing, just listen to it sometime. It's

00:31:05.519 --> 00:31:08.500
mute metallic sound that you don't hear all the

00:31:08.500 --> 00:31:11.279
time. Yeah. You wonder what amp were you using?

00:31:11.319 --> 00:31:13.339
What gear were you using? How did you record

00:31:13.339 --> 00:31:16.299
that? And nobody ever asks him either, and it

00:31:16.299 --> 00:31:18.220
drives me nuts. It's like, for God's sake, ask

00:31:18.220 --> 00:31:23.680
him about that song. Al Bouchard is still active.

00:31:23.920 --> 00:31:27.619
He's in a band called Blue Poop with his brother,

00:31:27.759 --> 00:31:31.480
Steve. Bouchard, I think it is, on drums. Steve

00:31:31.480 --> 00:31:34.019
Bouchard, yeah. And ex -Alice Cooper bass player

00:31:34.019 --> 00:31:36.799
Dennis Dunaway on bass. That's where the coop

00:31:36.799 --> 00:31:39.579
comes from. How's the music? I don't know about

00:31:39.579 --> 00:31:44.339
the hook. It's nice, fun, bluesy rock. You know,

00:31:44.339 --> 00:31:47.859
three -piece band, and it's nice. I like it.

00:31:47.859 --> 00:31:50.880
It's fun to listen to. It's nothing wild or earth

00:31:50.880 --> 00:31:55.319
-shattering or pounding out the distorted guitar,

00:31:55.460 --> 00:32:00.200
but it's good music. I like it. Are bar chords

00:32:00.200 --> 00:32:04.299
real music or is it filler? Bar chords. Those

00:32:04.299 --> 00:32:08.440
are tough. I know. Bar chords are the bane of

00:32:08.440 --> 00:32:11.960
my existence right now. Bar chords command something

00:32:11.960 --> 00:32:14.079
out of my fingers that it does not want to do.

00:32:14.160 --> 00:32:16.559
I know, yeah. My fingers look at me and go, no.

00:32:16.779 --> 00:32:21.490
I can do it fairly slowly. Yeah, but... But not

00:32:21.490 --> 00:32:24.450
quick enough to actually play anything. Power

00:32:24.450 --> 00:32:26.829
chords, man. I love the power chords. Yeah, power

00:32:26.829 --> 00:32:29.549
chords are the best. Usually two fingers and

00:32:29.549 --> 00:32:34.890
you're like... Okay, people argue that bar chords

00:32:34.890 --> 00:32:39.930
are only there to look flashy. There are a lot

00:32:39.930 --> 00:32:42.349
of other ways that you could play those same

00:32:42.349 --> 00:32:47.920
chords in... You don't need the bar chord. You

00:32:47.920 --> 00:32:50.339
can play an inversion of it, and you still have

00:32:50.339 --> 00:32:52.480
open strings, and you can play those just all

00:32:52.480 --> 00:32:54.460
up and down the neck. Yeah, basically they're

00:32:54.460 --> 00:32:57.119
saying bar chords are snotty and don't need to

00:32:57.119 --> 00:33:00.619
happen. Yeah, I can see that. And there's also

00:33:00.619 --> 00:33:06.880
some pushback against capos. Yes, that's another

00:33:06.880 --> 00:33:09.119
one. Basically what you're doing with a capo

00:33:09.119 --> 00:33:12.920
is you're transposing the song. So all the chords

00:33:12.920 --> 00:33:15.079
you were going to play, and the song's in E,

00:33:15.279 --> 00:33:18.119
you slide the capo up to the G, and now you can

00:33:18.119 --> 00:33:20.319
do all those same exact chords, and now the song's

00:33:20.319 --> 00:33:22.859
in G. So you don't have to change anything about

00:33:22.859 --> 00:33:24.940
what your fingers are doing, and it's in a different

00:33:24.940 --> 00:33:27.900
key. Yeah, and I can see people not liking that

00:33:27.900 --> 00:33:30.480
too, because that doesn't need to happen either.

00:33:30.559 --> 00:33:33.049
You can just play your guitar naturally. And

00:33:33.049 --> 00:33:35.190
get that, you know. Yeah, and there again, you

00:33:35.190 --> 00:33:38.390
can find a way to play that G, that E chord up

00:33:38.390 --> 00:33:41.049
the neck at G to where it sounds like an E chord,

00:33:41.150 --> 00:33:44.029
but it's higher. Anyway. But I've asked a number

00:33:44.029 --> 00:33:46.630
of guitar players, and most of them say, yeah,

00:33:46.730 --> 00:33:49.450
capos are a thing. Yeah, it's no big deal. Because

00:33:49.450 --> 00:33:51.289
at first I thought, that's kind of cheating.

00:33:51.490 --> 00:33:54.109
It's like you can't learn those chords, so you

00:33:54.109 --> 00:33:56.630
use a capo instead, like training wheels. They

00:33:56.630 --> 00:34:00.109
said, not really. There are times when the capo

00:34:00.109 --> 00:34:03.210
is absolutely what you need. Okay. Now, how about

00:34:03.210 --> 00:34:09.750
this? Okay. Bands that have one guitarist, they

00:34:09.750 --> 00:34:12.309
have rhythm and lead going at the same time.

00:34:12.449 --> 00:34:16.809
Yeah. Okay. Now, live, people don't like that

00:34:16.809 --> 00:34:18.969
either because it has to have someone backing

00:34:18.969 --> 00:34:20.989
them up. Most of them don't bring another guitarist

00:34:20.989 --> 00:34:23.349
on to do their songs. Yeah. So it's a backing

00:34:23.349 --> 00:34:29.190
music that they have there. Now, do you think

00:34:29.190 --> 00:34:32.550
that that is correct on that? Or do you think

00:34:32.550 --> 00:34:35.389
that they either need to change the song to where

00:34:35.389 --> 00:34:37.449
it doesn't have rhythm and lead at the same time?

00:34:37.469 --> 00:34:40.469
Or should the bass take over the rhythm? That's

00:34:40.469 --> 00:34:43.889
a good point because the first time I heard ZZ

00:34:43.889 --> 00:34:47.829
Top play live and the guitar player totally dropped

00:34:47.829 --> 00:34:51.510
the rhythm was just playing lead. Yeah. And so

00:34:51.510 --> 00:34:53.329
I had the lead, the bass, and the drums, and

00:34:53.329 --> 00:34:55.469
man, there was a big hole right in the middle

00:34:55.469 --> 00:34:58.099
of that sound. Yeah. And I thought, damn, they

00:34:58.099 --> 00:35:00.739
need a second guitar player playing all those

00:35:00.739 --> 00:35:02.780
rhythm parts because that's half the song right

00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:07.900
there. So I would be more in favor of, I mean,

00:35:07.920 --> 00:35:10.340
if you want to bring a guest musician and have

00:35:10.340 --> 00:35:12.059
them stand on stage and play the rhythm parts,

00:35:12.139 --> 00:35:15.039
or if you want to have them stand backstage and

00:35:15.039 --> 00:35:17.800
play the rhythm parts live, I would rather see

00:35:17.800 --> 00:35:20.360
that than a backing track. Now, okay, standing

00:35:20.360 --> 00:35:22.840
behind the stage, I'm cool with too. Yeah. And

00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:25.940
that's been going on for years and decades. Yes.

00:35:28.329 --> 00:35:32.010
But a backing track is starting to get to the

00:35:32.010 --> 00:35:33.909
point where it's not a live performance anymore.

00:35:34.070 --> 00:35:36.349
No, I know. Well, so many of them aren't anyhow.

00:35:36.530 --> 00:35:39.250
No, they're really not. It passes as live. Live

00:35:39.250 --> 00:35:42.690
is not a regulated term, so anything can qualify

00:35:42.690 --> 00:35:45.289
as a live performance. Blackie Lawless actually

00:35:45.289 --> 00:35:47.090
brought up some really good points because people

00:35:47.090 --> 00:35:48.989
are giving him shit about having some backing

00:35:48.989 --> 00:35:54.369
tracks. So, okay. He said that they simply do

00:35:54.369 --> 00:35:58.139
not have the personnel to do it. So they have

00:35:58.139 --> 00:36:00.400
to. And they probably couldn't afford the personnel

00:36:00.400 --> 00:36:02.699
and still be able to do this tour for the price

00:36:02.699 --> 00:36:04.840
they did. That's what he was saying. Yeah. To

00:36:04.840 --> 00:36:09.420
make it an affordable. That's true, yes. But

00:36:09.420 --> 00:36:12.820
also, I think that Salsa News is a crutch. And

00:36:12.820 --> 00:36:15.619
let me tell you why. I went to a couple of WOS

00:36:15.619 --> 00:36:19.019
shows because they're obviously probably, I don't

00:36:19.019 --> 00:36:20.679
think they're coming back to America. They rarely

00:36:20.679 --> 00:36:23.619
do anyhow. They sell so much overseas. but not

00:36:23.619 --> 00:36:26.179
over here. They were in Wichita when I saw them.

00:36:26.280 --> 00:36:30.840
So there you go. 2 ,000 people at best. So they're

00:36:30.840 --> 00:36:33.940
not that big of an act over here anymore. So

00:36:33.940 --> 00:36:38.219
I understand that, but also I did see this on

00:36:38.219 --> 00:36:42.699
both shows. Blackie Law's mic stand has a skull

00:36:42.699 --> 00:36:45.780
and crossbones right in front of his face. Why

00:36:45.780 --> 00:36:49.179
do you think that is? I'm going to guess protection

00:36:49.179 --> 00:36:53.059
from things thrown from the audience. Well, maybe

00:36:53.059 --> 00:36:56.159
that too. So you can't catch him not singing.

00:36:56.920 --> 00:37:00.380
Yes, to block off his lips. Because I tried to

00:37:00.380 --> 00:37:02.260
figure this out in Tulsa when I sang. I'm like,

00:37:02.340 --> 00:37:04.900
why in the hell would he do that? People want

00:37:04.900 --> 00:37:08.400
to see him. You're right. And then the same thing

00:37:08.400 --> 00:37:11.650
again. And I'm like... That's what it is. Because

00:37:11.650 --> 00:37:13.610
I could not tell. I'm like trying to look and

00:37:13.610 --> 00:37:15.869
see him what he is singing and he isn't. Wow.

00:37:15.949 --> 00:37:17.769
You cannot. It's like when the guitar player

00:37:17.769 --> 00:37:20.050
turns his back because he can't fake the chords

00:37:20.050 --> 00:37:21.889
that are about to happen on the backing track.

00:37:22.150 --> 00:37:27.230
Yes. Uh -huh. Wow. Yep. I was thinking about

00:37:27.230 --> 00:37:29.530
when you said about he went to Wichita instead

00:37:29.530 --> 00:37:32.730
of Kansas City. It probably looks better from

00:37:32.730 --> 00:37:35.789
a business standpoint rather than come to a city

00:37:35.789 --> 00:37:39.199
the size of Kansas City. and only sell 10 ,000

00:37:39.199 --> 00:37:42.599
tickets for whatever amount of money, it looks

00:37:42.599 --> 00:37:45.639
better to go to Wichita and sell 10 ,000 tickets

00:37:45.639 --> 00:37:47.739
for the same amount of money. Exactly. Because

00:37:47.739 --> 00:37:49.780
if you do it here, it looks like wasted potential,

00:37:50.099 --> 00:37:52.780
lost revenue, left something behind. You do it

00:37:52.780 --> 00:37:54.300
in Wichita, it's like, this is all we're going

00:37:54.300 --> 00:37:56.199
to get anyway. Let's go somewhere where it looks

00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.940
like a big deal. Yeah. That kind of makes sense.

00:37:59.179 --> 00:38:00.800
I'd do the same thing if I was in that situation.

00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.099
I think so, because that way you can brag. Look

00:38:03.099 --> 00:38:05.219
at our last tour. We were capacity here, capacity

00:38:05.219 --> 00:38:07.699
there. Yeah. Because you're picking the smaller

00:38:07.699 --> 00:38:09.800
places. That's right. We won't talk about that.

00:38:09.960 --> 00:38:12.360
The real fans will travel three and a half hours

00:38:12.360 --> 00:38:15.280
like me. That's true. Like Davey. We travel three

00:38:15.280 --> 00:38:16.900
and a half hours to go see them. And they'll

00:38:16.900 --> 00:38:18.679
make an event. They'll buy more merchandise.

00:38:19.239 --> 00:38:23.360
Yeah. It all works out. Yeah. So, yeah. And also

00:38:23.360 --> 00:38:26.579
cheaper. I think a hotel in Wichita is anything

00:38:26.579 --> 00:38:29.300
near a hotel in Kansas City. Easier to get in

00:38:29.300 --> 00:38:31.460
and out of the city. Yes. Yeah. There's all sorts

00:38:31.460 --> 00:38:35.170
of advantages. the venue is cheaper yeah uh the

00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:37.889
cotillion is the same venue that he played when

00:38:37.889 --> 00:38:41.590
they started out in 1983. cool their first tour

00:38:41.590 --> 00:38:44.889
ever anyhow go ahead something i was going to

00:38:44.889 --> 00:38:46.989
say where i kind of make i kind of understand

00:38:46.989 --> 00:38:51.090
uh blackie's point is he's trying to recreate

00:38:51.090 --> 00:38:53.670
a performance that they created during their

00:38:53.670 --> 00:38:56.829
heyday when there was almost no budget anything

00:38:56.829 --> 00:39:01.269
goes and they could do no wrong and now you've

00:39:01.269 --> 00:39:04.989
got to recreate that on a budget. It's a little

00:39:04.989 --> 00:39:08.969
difficult. I'm okay with acts scaling down their

00:39:08.969 --> 00:39:11.329
performance to kind of fit the current financial

00:39:11.329 --> 00:39:14.170
situation that they're in. I agree. You don't

00:39:14.170 --> 00:39:16.550
need the big pyrotechnics and the massive laser

00:39:16.550 --> 00:39:19.510
shows, but give me some good staging and some

00:39:19.510 --> 00:39:22.650
excellent musicians and light the thing well

00:39:22.650 --> 00:39:24.829
enough that I can see who's doing what at any

00:39:24.829 --> 00:39:27.650
given time. I hate dark stages. Oh, I do too.

00:39:27.789 --> 00:39:31.349
It sucks. I do too. But I think I would be a

00:39:31.349 --> 00:39:34.710
lot more inclined to go see, you know, some band

00:39:34.710 --> 00:39:38.190
that was, you know, some big spectacle in their

00:39:38.190 --> 00:39:40.469
heyday. But now, hey, we've toned it down now

00:39:40.469 --> 00:39:43.349
because we're playing smaller clubs. I'd be perfectly

00:39:43.349 --> 00:39:45.829
fine with that. Well, I was perfectly fine with

00:39:45.829 --> 00:39:48.750
the Ross show. And I do understand what he's

00:39:48.750 --> 00:39:51.190
saying. And I also do understand that the guy's

00:39:51.190 --> 00:39:54.750
near 70. Yes, that's the point. Yeah. So all

00:39:54.750 --> 00:39:57.750
of this combined, I mean, and his voice style

00:39:57.750 --> 00:40:01.329
is not like a true singing style. It's more of

00:40:01.329 --> 00:40:04.750
a growling nasal. Yeah. You know. Some of the

00:40:04.750 --> 00:40:06.389
singers that really can't sing all that well

00:40:06.389 --> 00:40:08.429
wind up having longer careers because they never

00:40:08.429 --> 00:40:10.769
push their voice. Yeah. But then you have the

00:40:10.769 --> 00:40:12.929
people like Glenn Hughes that you can put a candle

00:40:12.929 --> 00:40:15.710
up to his mouth when he's singing and it'll never

00:40:15.710 --> 00:40:18.570
go out. Yeah. Because he sings so well from his

00:40:18.570 --> 00:40:21.539
diaphragm. Breath control is amazing. Yes. And

00:40:21.539 --> 00:40:25.139
he's just an amazing singer, naturally. Yeah.

00:40:25.320 --> 00:40:27.639
But he still has a voice he did because he sings

00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:29.719
correctly, too. Yeah. Then you have the ones

00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:31.679
that kind of, you know, do things a little bit

00:40:31.679 --> 00:40:35.260
different. Now, Flacky, his voice isn't, he can't

00:40:35.260 --> 00:40:37.940
do what he used to do. Yeah. Just like Ace really

00:40:37.940 --> 00:40:41.599
can. He sings in a lower register. Has to. Elton

00:40:41.599 --> 00:40:43.460
John said the same thing. Same thing. He's lost

00:40:43.460 --> 00:40:46.219
quite a bit off the upper range. Yeah. A lot

00:40:46.219 --> 00:40:51.510
of his hits he has to transpose. Yes. So. I see

00:40:51.510 --> 00:40:53.710
why Blackie did that. I totally see why he did

00:40:53.710 --> 00:40:56.449
that. And also, it really didn't take away from

00:40:56.449 --> 00:40:58.949
the show because people like me and Davey that

00:40:58.949 --> 00:41:00.909
were there were fans that just wanted to see

00:41:00.909 --> 00:41:04.349
him. True, true. It was kind of like with Ozzy's

00:41:04.349 --> 00:41:08.289
concert in July. At this point, we really don't

00:41:08.289 --> 00:41:10.469
care how involved he is as long as he's there

00:41:10.469 --> 00:41:12.929
and we can see him. And I think people are going

00:41:12.929 --> 00:41:15.869
to be satisfied with that. Yeah. Well, they're

00:41:15.869 --> 00:41:18.860
going to have to be, evidently. Yeah, yeah. But

00:41:18.860 --> 00:41:21.099
anything less than physically seeing him on the

00:41:21.099 --> 00:41:22.820
stage I think is going to cause a lot of trouble.

00:41:23.039 --> 00:41:25.440
And another thing is the flying throne is not

00:41:25.440 --> 00:41:28.000
confirmed. Zach Wilde said that going, you just

00:41:28.000 --> 00:41:30.119
put him on a flying throne and people ramble.

00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:32.900
So that's actually not true and not what's going

00:41:32.900 --> 00:41:35.539
to happen. A man as fragile as Ozzy, I wouldn't

00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:39.119
put him on a flying throne. I mean, why not just

00:41:39.119 --> 00:41:41.699
strap him to Tommy Lee's upside -down drum set

00:41:41.699 --> 00:41:47.719
while you're at it? The sad fact is, is Ozzy

00:41:47.719 --> 00:41:49.940
is not well, and he's not going to get better.

00:41:50.059 --> 00:41:53.760
No. They say that he wants to do one last show.

00:41:53.880 --> 00:41:56.260
This is him saying goodbye to everybody because

00:41:56.260 --> 00:41:59.820
they know that it's coming up. Yeah, the overwhelming

00:41:59.820 --> 00:42:03.719
sense I get is whatever you can do, Ozzy, is

00:42:03.719 --> 00:42:05.760
going to be good enough. Don't worry about it.

00:42:06.699 --> 00:42:08.539
As long as you're there and we can physically

00:42:08.539 --> 00:42:10.659
see you. Are you good with it? I am. Absolutely.

00:42:10.940 --> 00:42:12.780
I just want to see him one last time. Yeah. I

00:42:12.780 --> 00:42:15.380
mean, even if he's backstage and they show him

00:42:15.380 --> 00:42:17.559
with a video camera sitting backstage waving

00:42:17.559 --> 00:42:20.219
because he can't make it out on the stage, that

00:42:20.219 --> 00:42:21.800
would be all right. That would be fine with me,

00:42:21.800 --> 00:42:23.900
too. But if he never shows up, it's going to

00:42:23.900 --> 00:42:27.739
smell like a ripoff. Yes. It really is. And,

00:42:27.880 --> 00:42:30.860
I mean... It wouldn't be so bad, but you're talking

00:42:30.860 --> 00:42:33.900
about Sharon Osbourne. Yes, that's the reason

00:42:33.900 --> 00:42:36.699
I'm concerned is because Sharon's in charge.

00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.960
A lot of people have reservations about her for

00:42:38.960 --> 00:42:42.880
a lot of different reasons. Yeah, I could definitely

00:42:42.880 --> 00:42:47.139
totally see why people are kind of nervous about

00:42:47.139 --> 00:42:49.659
it, going, hey, is this an upsell? But it is

00:42:49.659 --> 00:42:55.960
all going to charity, too. Well, I hope for the

00:42:55.960 --> 00:43:00.199
best. I do, too. Hopefully he has a really good

00:43:00.199 --> 00:43:01.980
day and he'd come out there. I don't know, maybe

00:43:01.980 --> 00:43:04.719
stand with a cane or something like he had been

00:43:04.719 --> 00:43:07.619
doing. But they said that it's taken away his

00:43:07.619 --> 00:43:09.579
ability to walk and he's in a wheelchair. So

00:43:09.579 --> 00:43:11.800
something tells me it would be too dangerous

00:43:11.800 --> 00:43:15.320
to put him out there on a cane. Yeah, yeah. I

00:43:15.320 --> 00:43:17.860
can see that. Yeah, I think he's going to make

00:43:17.860 --> 00:43:21.159
it until July. But I think it's going to be a

00:43:21.159 --> 00:43:23.840
struggle to have him participate in anything

00:43:23.840 --> 00:43:26.590
much. And I really hope that the effort he puts

00:43:26.590 --> 00:43:28.849
into this doesn't shorten his life in the long

00:43:28.849 --> 00:43:31.889
run, you know, because that would be extra sad.

00:43:32.349 --> 00:43:35.150
I'm not sure he cares. Yeah, I can see that.

00:43:35.409 --> 00:43:38.769
He mentioned the other day, he said, I want to

00:43:38.769 --> 00:43:40.530
do this because I don't want to be found dead

00:43:40.530 --> 00:43:43.510
in some hotel room. Yeah. That's pretty much

00:43:43.510 --> 00:43:45.650
admitting stuff right there. Yeah, I think so.

00:43:45.909 --> 00:43:49.030
Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to come right out

00:43:49.030 --> 00:43:52.110
and say, look, we estimate I got it two years

00:43:52.110 --> 00:43:55.849
at best. Yeah. So he's got to say different things,

00:43:55.929 --> 00:43:58.170
like, oh, I didn't want to die in some hotel

00:43:58.170 --> 00:44:02.389
room. Some people have the idea. Probably coming

00:44:02.389 --> 00:44:08.230
up. Yeah. Anyhow, we love y 'alls. Yeah. All

00:44:08.230 --> 00:44:11.570
right. I've got a few more bands. Oh, we really

00:44:11.570 --> 00:44:16.429
went off on you. Sorry. Who's I got? Dire Straits?

00:44:17.000 --> 00:44:19.840
Money for Nothing? Yes. They have so many better

00:44:19.840 --> 00:44:22.059
songs than that. I don't even listen to Money

00:44:22.059 --> 00:44:24.420
for Nothing. When the CD comes out, I skip right

00:44:24.420 --> 00:44:26.460
over it. It's like the second or third track,

00:44:26.539 --> 00:44:28.199
and I skip right over it. That's another song

00:44:28.199 --> 00:44:30.960
that has references in it that you can't believe

00:44:30.960 --> 00:44:34.119
they left in. Yeah. It says the F -A -G word.

00:44:34.320 --> 00:44:37.579
Yeah, yeah. The little F with the earring and

00:44:37.579 --> 00:44:40.579
the makeup. That ain't working. That's the way

00:44:40.579 --> 00:44:43.159
you do it. The little F word is a millionaire.

00:44:43.579 --> 00:44:47.230
Yeah. Yeah. That was pretty rough. Yeah, he's

00:44:47.230 --> 00:44:53.650
got his own jet airplane. Pink Floyd, Money.

00:44:53.989 --> 00:44:56.090
And you know it was written about Michael Jackson,

00:44:56.130 --> 00:44:59.670
too. That song. Oh, I think it was, yeah. And

00:44:59.670 --> 00:45:02.829
they're saying the F and all that. I wonder how

00:45:02.829 --> 00:45:06.829
Michael Jackson felt about that. Scam likely.

00:45:07.170 --> 00:45:09.230
Oh, okay. That guy calls me all the time. Oh,

00:45:09.230 --> 00:45:12.530
yeah. He always tries to get on the show. I think

00:45:12.530 --> 00:45:16.130
Pink Floyd's Money. is a much overrated song.

00:45:16.250 --> 00:45:18.369
Very much so. It's not that good. I think the

00:45:18.369 --> 00:45:21.170
big lure to that is, one, it's in the Funky Time

00:45:21.170 --> 00:45:23.489
signature, and two, he says the word bullshit

00:45:23.489 --> 00:45:25.389
on the radio. I was getting ready to say, yeah,

00:45:25.429 --> 00:45:27.489
that's another one. That was the draw. It was

00:45:27.489 --> 00:45:29.949
everybody, he said bullshit, and they didn't

00:45:29.949 --> 00:45:33.750
bleep it. Yeah. If that's good enough, I mean,

00:45:33.750 --> 00:45:35.769
if that's enough, then that's not much of a song,

00:45:35.829 --> 00:45:38.429
I don't think. I mean, any other song on the

00:45:38.429 --> 00:45:42.559
album was better than that one. Yes. That's another

00:45:42.559 --> 00:45:44.719
one of the case of the worst song on the album

00:45:44.719 --> 00:45:47.599
being the hit. Yeah. And I think that's one of

00:45:47.599 --> 00:45:50.320
the best examples, actually. Yeah. It was through

00:45:50.320 --> 00:45:51.739
the rest of the album. You're like, this is a

00:45:51.739 --> 00:45:54.380
song I didn't really like. Yeah. You know, it

00:45:54.380 --> 00:45:56.440
did them a world of good. I mean, they needed

00:45:56.440 --> 00:45:59.780
that big hit. And that helped make that album

00:45:59.780 --> 00:46:03.119
such an enormous success. It stayed on the charts

00:46:03.119 --> 00:46:06.869
for I don't know how many years. Every time it

00:46:06.869 --> 00:46:09.489
was in danger of dropping off the charts, Pink

00:46:09.489 --> 00:46:11.269
Floyd's management would run out and buy enough

00:46:11.269 --> 00:46:13.489
copies to push it back up onto the charts and

00:46:13.489 --> 00:46:15.110
then promote it again, and then people start

00:46:15.110 --> 00:46:18.369
buying it again. Bless you. Thank you. They're

00:46:18.369 --> 00:46:22.489
still actually on the charts. They extended maybe

00:46:22.489 --> 00:46:25.110
300 or something, but they're still actually

00:46:25.110 --> 00:46:28.849
on it. Yeah. It has never stopped selling. Yeah.

00:46:28.909 --> 00:46:30.570
That's what's amazing about it. Well, another

00:46:30.570 --> 00:46:32.550
thing that happened is a record company didn't

00:46:32.550 --> 00:46:35.159
back them up at first. So it was a slow burn.

00:46:35.380 --> 00:46:37.400
Everyone didn't rush out and buy the album at

00:46:37.400 --> 00:46:39.559
once. People started finding out individually

00:46:39.559 --> 00:46:45.300
from friends and eventually radio play. I think

00:46:45.300 --> 00:46:48.280
the sequence went, they put out Adam Hartmother,

00:46:48.539 --> 00:46:51.900
which most people consider to be a disappointment,

00:46:52.119 --> 00:46:54.480
the band members included. Yeah, I would agree.

00:46:54.760 --> 00:46:57.159
And then they put out Metal, which had One of

00:46:57.159 --> 00:47:00.960
These Days and a couple other songs that could

00:47:00.960 --> 00:47:05.320
have been played on the radio. And then it was

00:47:05.320 --> 00:47:08.480
Dark Side of the Moon. And the record company

00:47:08.480 --> 00:47:11.139
wasn't really expecting a lot after Adam Heartmother

00:47:11.139 --> 00:47:14.360
and Metal. So they weren't really all excited

00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:18.360
and promoting it. And so the band kind of made

00:47:18.360 --> 00:47:22.800
it start going on the hit themselves. And then

00:47:22.800 --> 00:47:24.940
the record label took over once they realized,

00:47:25.079 --> 00:47:27.440
oh, this is a nice hit. And then on the subsequent

00:47:27.440 --> 00:47:31.960
album, Wish You Were Here, the song Have a Cigar.

00:47:32.639 --> 00:47:35.260
It talks about how the record label is suddenly

00:47:35.260 --> 00:47:38.360
on board. Oh, we didn't realize this was a big

00:47:38.360 --> 00:47:41.519
hit. Or they said, we think it's a decent boat.

00:47:41.579 --> 00:47:44.280
We turned into a monster. We all pulled together

00:47:44.280 --> 00:47:48.539
as a team, taking credit for helping them. So

00:47:48.539 --> 00:47:50.559
that whole Have a Cigar song, I Wish You Were

00:47:50.559 --> 00:47:54.960
Here, was them flipping off the A &R dude from

00:47:54.960 --> 00:47:57.460
the record label who came in and just took credit.

00:47:59.610 --> 00:48:02.389
That was Pink Floyd -ish, too. Yeah. I'm sure

00:48:02.389 --> 00:48:06.070
that was Roger Waters. Yeah. It had to be Roger

00:48:06.070 --> 00:48:08.030
Waters. Anything surly and pissed off. That was

00:48:08.030 --> 00:48:10.809
Roger. Man, I've got to bring a hair tie next

00:48:10.809 --> 00:48:14.010
time. What about Van Morrison in Brown Eyed Girl?

00:48:14.329 --> 00:48:17.050
Oh, yes. Definitely. Oh, my God. Pretty much

00:48:17.050 --> 00:48:19.489
anything on Astral Weeks is better than Brown

00:48:19.489 --> 00:48:23.289
Eyed Girl. How that got to be a hit, I have no

00:48:23.289 --> 00:48:27.250
idea. It was good pop fun on the radio. I guess

00:48:27.250 --> 00:48:30.960
it was. Yeah. What about Cindy Lauper, Girls

00:48:30.960 --> 00:48:33.539
Just Want to Have Fun? I would agree. I mean,

00:48:33.579 --> 00:48:36.780
Time After Time is easily a better song, and

00:48:36.780 --> 00:48:39.260
she had more after that. Yeah, I would agree.

00:48:40.500 --> 00:48:43.900
And Heart, All They Want to Do is Make Love to

00:48:43.900 --> 00:48:47.380
You? Yes. That was an enormous hit, and it was

00:48:47.380 --> 00:48:50.039
one of those songs that was just played on the

00:48:50.039 --> 00:48:53.940
safe for work. Radio stations. Oh, we're safe

00:48:53.940 --> 00:48:56.400
to play all day at work because nothing's objectionable.

00:48:56.480 --> 00:49:01.619
Yeah, yeah, that's the KUDL song. Yeah. It's

00:49:01.619 --> 00:49:05.940
like the plain oatmeal of music. Yes. It's plain

00:49:05.940 --> 00:49:10.840
yogurt. Yes. No fruit or, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heart

00:49:10.840 --> 00:49:13.199
had a million better songs than that. Oh, yeah.

00:49:13.280 --> 00:49:15.300
It looks like crazy over you and the guitar and

00:49:15.300 --> 00:49:17.199
that and all that. Then you listen to it. All

00:49:17.199 --> 00:49:20.099
I want to do is make love. Yeah. Mostly synthesize.

00:49:20.099 --> 00:49:24.210
Dog and butterfly. Gorgeous song. Acoustic guitars,

00:49:24.630 --> 00:49:27.210
great voice, great vocal work. It's a simple

00:49:27.210 --> 00:49:31.110
little song, but it's gorgeous. It's ten times

00:49:31.110 --> 00:49:32.929
the song that all I want to do is... And I'm

00:49:32.929 --> 00:49:35.110
sure if you asked Hart candidly, you'd be like,

00:49:35.230 --> 00:49:37.730
we don't like this song at all. We love the money

00:49:37.730 --> 00:49:40.590
it made and the fame, but yeah, it's not one

00:49:40.590 --> 00:49:42.309
of our best. It took advantage of the 80s pop

00:49:42.309 --> 00:49:46.070
rock scene. Yeah. And they wanted to be kind

00:49:46.070 --> 00:49:48.250
of like it again, and it worked. They're all

00:49:48.250 --> 00:49:53.599
over MTV and all over hip radio. Q -104 was playing

00:49:53.599 --> 00:49:56.480
constantly. I mean, you know. There's a heart

00:49:56.480 --> 00:50:01.400
song that used to get played the snot out of

00:50:01.400 --> 00:50:04.519
it back when it first came out called Straight

00:50:04.519 --> 00:50:07.960
On. Yeah. It was kind of their disco beat. Yes.

00:50:08.880 --> 00:50:12.000
Straight On For You was the tagline. Yeah, it

00:50:12.000 --> 00:50:14.460
was a great song, actually. I liked it. Yeah,

00:50:14.480 --> 00:50:16.960
I did too. At the time, I kind of got tired of

00:50:16.960 --> 00:50:19.360
it, but it just dropped away completely, and

00:50:19.360 --> 00:50:21.840
I think it's been probably 20 years since I heard

00:50:21.840 --> 00:50:27.159
it. I heard it, but I only heard it on Spotify.

00:50:27.840 --> 00:50:31.780
Yeah, yeah. Because the song association it does,

00:50:31.920 --> 00:50:33.659
you know, I'll be listening to some classic rock,

00:50:33.719 --> 00:50:36.440
and I'll be like, there's some heart in there,

00:50:36.519 --> 00:50:38.699
and they have to be straight on for you. And

00:50:38.699 --> 00:50:40.639
I was like, wow, the harmonies in that song are

00:50:40.639 --> 00:50:42.960
really good. I can understand you being tired

00:50:42.960 --> 00:50:45.659
of it. Yeah. Because Too Much Time on My Hands

00:50:45.659 --> 00:50:48.300
was one, too, that they played constantly. Yes,

00:50:48.300 --> 00:50:51.619
yes. I heard it the other day on Spotify, and

00:50:51.619 --> 00:50:53.179
I was like, you know what? I don't mind that

00:50:53.179 --> 00:50:55.340
song like I thought I did. Yeah, yeah. There

00:50:55.340 --> 00:50:57.820
are some songs that, after a while, I can get

00:50:57.820 --> 00:51:00.059
into again. I don't know that I'll ever be able

00:51:00.059 --> 00:51:03.340
to listen to Stairway to Heaven or Freebird all

00:51:03.340 --> 00:51:05.579
the way through again. No, never. It's just too

00:51:05.579 --> 00:51:10.880
difficult. Yeah, I agree. Because I'm old enough,

00:51:10.960 --> 00:51:13.409
I was there when they were new. So I've been

00:51:13.409 --> 00:51:15.590
hearing them since the very first time they were

00:51:15.590 --> 00:51:18.750
ever played. So I've got about 10 ,000 more listens

00:51:18.750 --> 00:51:23.329
in than everybody else. Yeah, yep. And I'm a

00:51:23.329 --> 00:51:26.710
grumpy old man, so there. Yeah, same here. Get

00:51:26.710 --> 00:51:31.989
that damn noise off of my lawn, boy. Do you want

00:51:31.989 --> 00:51:34.769
to hear what happened recently with Snow White?

00:51:35.449 --> 00:51:39.210
Yeah, hell yeah. They snuck in a re -release

00:51:39.210 --> 00:51:43.900
of the movie, Disney did. It came out March 21st,

00:51:43.900 --> 00:51:45.579
and it apparently disappeared pretty quickly.

00:51:46.159 --> 00:51:49.980
And then the last week or so, they re -released

00:51:49.980 --> 00:51:54.559
it to apparently zero fanfare and zero attention.

00:51:55.760 --> 00:52:00.420
They put it out in 1 ,000 screens across the

00:52:00.420 --> 00:52:05.000
U .S. And their reported earnings after the opening

00:52:05.000 --> 00:52:10.889
weekend was a total of $250 per screen. which

00:52:10.889 --> 00:52:13.510
means every showing every day on that screen

00:52:13.510 --> 00:52:17.809
totaled up to 10 people watched it, or 25 people

00:52:17.809 --> 00:52:18.289
watched it. That didn't even cover the electric

00:52:18.289 --> 00:52:25.670
bill. Yeah, yeah. So, and the odd thing is it's

00:52:25.670 --> 00:52:27.710
going, it's going to be released to video later

00:52:27.710 --> 00:52:31.110
this month, which is also pretty damn fast. Who

00:52:31.110 --> 00:52:33.789
releases a movie to video two months after it

00:52:33.789 --> 00:52:37.210
hits the box office? Yeah, and then re -release

00:52:37.210 --> 00:52:40.579
it to, okay, re -release is one thing. But another

00:52:40.579 --> 00:52:44.000
thing is 2 ,000 theaters? Yeah. That's like saying,

00:52:44.059 --> 00:52:49.900
we don't think it's going to do anything again,

00:52:49.940 --> 00:52:53.079
so this is a soft test. Yeah, yeah. If they really

00:52:53.079 --> 00:52:55.420
meant it, they'd unleash it to 10 ,000 theaters.

00:52:55.599 --> 00:52:57.780
Say, yeah, we think if they miss the boat on

00:52:57.780 --> 00:52:59.739
this, we think they'll catch it this time. No,

00:52:59.820 --> 00:53:01.940
they were just kind of like, just put a little

00:53:01.940 --> 00:53:03.340
bit out there and see what they do, and then

00:53:03.340 --> 00:53:05.300
they're finally like, oh, it's going to video.

00:53:05.980 --> 00:53:08.239
Well, people are comparing it to what Sony did

00:53:08.239 --> 00:53:11.800
with the film called Morbius, a superhero movie

00:53:11.800 --> 00:53:15.280
that just totally flopped. At least they waited

00:53:15.280 --> 00:53:18.039
a while, and then they brought it out for a re

00:53:18.039 --> 00:53:20.820
-release, knowing full well it was going to tank,

00:53:20.960 --> 00:53:23.579
and they didn't care, but they wanted to stir

00:53:23.579 --> 00:53:26.019
up some buzz because they had other superhero

00:53:26.019 --> 00:53:29.900
action movies coming. So the re -release of Morbius

00:53:29.900 --> 00:53:32.179
was just to get people talking again, and they

00:53:32.179 --> 00:53:33.699
didn't care that they lost a bunch of money.

00:53:34.309 --> 00:53:37.170
Was Disney maybe doing the same thing to try

00:53:37.170 --> 00:53:39.730
to get attention before the video release? If

00:53:39.730 --> 00:53:42.309
so, they sure didn't tell anyone they were releasing

00:53:42.309 --> 00:53:43.789
it. I was getting ready to say they didn't really

00:53:43.789 --> 00:53:45.769
promote it very much. I think it just kind of

00:53:45.769 --> 00:53:47.730
happened and people realized after the fact,

00:53:47.849 --> 00:53:51.269
oh, look, it came back for a weekend or so. And

00:53:51.269 --> 00:53:54.309
pretty much nobody cared. Yeah, I mean, if you're

00:53:54.309 --> 00:53:55.730
going to do that, don't you want to create a

00:53:55.730 --> 00:53:58.510
buzz and go back by popular demand? Because most

00:53:58.510 --> 00:54:00.269
people don't look at that. They don't know what

00:54:00.269 --> 00:54:03.949
it sold. Yeah. It's just odd. Like I say, Nev

00:54:03.949 --> 00:54:08.809
caught fire live, sold more. Yeah. And then I've

00:54:08.809 --> 00:54:11.489
heard, haven't been able to confirm, that Rachel

00:54:11.489 --> 00:54:14.809
Zegler is suing South Park for $100 million,

00:54:15.070 --> 00:54:17.530
claiming that they ruined her career with the

00:54:17.530 --> 00:54:20.360
way they portrayed her on South Park. Who knows

00:54:20.360 --> 00:54:22.579
if that's true or just more internet BS. If that

00:54:22.579 --> 00:54:24.840
is true, she's more of an idiot than I thought.

00:54:24.960 --> 00:54:27.019
Yeah, I mean, that would be the worst possible

00:54:27.019 --> 00:54:29.300
thing for her to do is call more attention to

00:54:29.300 --> 00:54:33.639
it. I mean, she's already been... Well, Disney

00:54:33.639 --> 00:54:39.679
hired somebody to go out and be the filter when

00:54:39.679 --> 00:54:42.420
she was on the promo tour for Snow White because

00:54:42.420 --> 00:54:44.780
they couldn't trust her anymore to say the right

00:54:44.780 --> 00:54:48.690
things and act the right way. They also didn't

00:54:48.690 --> 00:54:51.510
hire her to hire her own PR person. Disney sent

00:54:51.510 --> 00:54:53.989
one that she can't fire. It said, everything

00:54:53.989 --> 00:54:57.210
will go through this person. It's exactly what

00:54:57.210 --> 00:54:59.349
the University of North Carolina has done to

00:54:59.349 --> 00:55:04.949
Bill Belichick. And she didn't like being hamstrung

00:55:04.949 --> 00:55:07.449
that way, but it shows at that point that Disney

00:55:07.449 --> 00:55:09.849
still was trying to protect their investment.

00:55:09.989 --> 00:55:12.010
At this point, I think they've just totally given

00:55:12.010 --> 00:55:13.730
up. It's like, we don't care. If I was them,

00:55:13.730 --> 00:55:15.329
I wouldn't even release it on video. I'd just

00:55:15.329 --> 00:55:18.579
be like, that's it. They haven't learned their

00:55:18.579 --> 00:55:20.460
lesson, apparently, because they're doing a live

00:55:20.460 --> 00:55:24.320
-action remake of Lilo and Stitch. And they're

00:55:24.320 --> 00:55:26.599
already getting flack because in the original

00:55:26.599 --> 00:55:30.599
cartoon, two people from Stitch's home planet

00:55:30.599 --> 00:55:33.179
come looking for him. Him, her, it, whatever

00:55:33.179 --> 00:55:36.519
it is. One of these aliens dresses as a man,

00:55:36.579 --> 00:55:39.380
and the other dresses as a woman. And the running

00:55:39.380 --> 00:55:41.739
gag through the show was the one dressed as a

00:55:41.739 --> 00:55:44.420
woman would choose the most outrageous and bizarre

00:55:44.420 --> 00:55:48.940
outfits. in her attempt to fit in, or its attempt

00:55:48.940 --> 00:55:52.599
to fit in. So for the live -action remake, they

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.099
completely dropped the cross -dressing, and now

00:55:55.099 --> 00:55:58.860
both of them dress as a man. Wow. And that has

00:55:58.860 --> 00:56:01.619
caused some flack of people saying, okay, Disney,

00:56:01.820 --> 00:56:04.780
here you are backing way off on some innocent

00:56:04.780 --> 00:56:08.420
fun. Are you this scared? Are you running this

00:56:08.420 --> 00:56:12.550
hard? And was it all just pandering before? Because

00:56:12.550 --> 00:56:14.650
Disney is showing we never really care. It's

00:56:14.650 --> 00:56:16.429
just whichever way the wind's blowing. You're

00:56:16.429 --> 00:56:18.369
going to see this company go bankrupt one of

00:56:18.369 --> 00:56:22.070
these days. Oh, man. Yeah. It's like the South

00:56:22.070 --> 00:56:25.530
Park take on Kathleen Kennedy, who was running

00:56:25.530 --> 00:56:29.789
Disney Pictures. They portrayed her as standing

00:56:29.789 --> 00:56:32.710
in her office yelling, you know, well, just redo

00:56:32.710 --> 00:56:34.949
this movie and put a woman in it and make her

00:56:34.949 --> 00:56:39.119
a lesbian. And that's kind of how people, I mean,

00:56:39.139 --> 00:56:41.059
that's not exactly what they're doing, but that's

00:56:41.059 --> 00:56:44.500
the attitude that people have. It's like, that's

00:56:44.500 --> 00:56:46.400
the effort we think you're putting into it. You're

00:56:46.400 --> 00:56:49.320
just half -assing it. It's just really not good

00:56:49.320 --> 00:56:51.699
enough anymore. That parody came from somewhere,

00:56:51.800 --> 00:56:54.340
and that parody that came from somewhere, that

00:56:54.340 --> 00:56:58.380
somewhere is not too far off. No. So, yeah, nuts.

00:56:58.880 --> 00:57:03.860
I just thought that was hilarious. All right,

00:57:03.980 --> 00:57:08.440
this is the douchebag section of the music creeps.

00:57:08.440 --> 00:57:11.099
It's only fair because we did music creeps partly

00:57:11.099 --> 00:57:13.360
during the Sports Bastards. Yeah, so we're going

00:57:13.360 --> 00:57:15.980
to have to throw little douchebags in there.

00:57:16.059 --> 00:57:19.420
It's like the crossover episodes you get on TV

00:57:19.420 --> 00:57:22.360
where the stars of this show wind up on that

00:57:22.360 --> 00:57:24.280
show. It's like, oh, cool. You know whenever

00:57:24.280 --> 00:57:26.760
you see Peter Griffith on The Simpsons or Homer

00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:33.429
Simpson on Family Guy? No different here. or

00:57:33.429 --> 00:57:37.409
Batman and Superman. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right,

00:57:37.429 --> 00:57:39.929
well, things aren't going so well for Tesla right

00:57:39.929 --> 00:57:46.550
now. About the Cybertruck. There's one right

00:57:46.550 --> 00:57:51.489
there. It is. Yep, anyhow. All right, they're

00:57:51.489 --> 00:57:59.309
sold standard with what's called the auto cruise,

00:57:59.429 --> 00:58:02.750
auto steer package. Whatever they call that.

00:58:03.349 --> 00:58:06.849
And optional is the full self -driving mode.

00:58:07.429 --> 00:58:11.150
That was like six grand more. Most Cybertruck

00:58:11.150 --> 00:58:13.630
owners do not opt for the extra six grand in

00:58:13.630 --> 00:58:15.469
full self -driving mode. They go for just the

00:58:15.469 --> 00:58:18.170
auto steer and the auto cruise. Now, auto cruise

00:58:18.170 --> 00:58:20.269
is where you get on the highway, hit the cruise,

00:58:20.369 --> 00:58:24.610
and it'll keep you at the right speed in relation

00:58:24.610 --> 00:58:26.510
to the car ahead of you. So if the car slows

00:58:26.510 --> 00:58:28.650
down, you slow down. If the car speeds up, you

00:58:28.650 --> 00:58:30.929
speed up. It's what they used to call adaptive

00:58:30.929 --> 00:58:33.429
cruise control. But you still got to steer the

00:58:33.429 --> 00:58:37.289
thing. Yeah. Auto steer is it will keep you in

00:58:37.289 --> 00:58:39.829
the lane you're in, provided there are lane markers.

00:58:40.809 --> 00:58:43.769
So between the two, you get on the highway, hit

00:58:43.769 --> 00:58:45.690
the two, you sit behind the wheel with your hands

00:58:45.690 --> 00:58:47.989
in your lap, and you only grab the wheel if there's

00:58:47.989 --> 00:58:50.469
something going on. Okay. Full stealth driving

00:58:50.469 --> 00:58:53.269
mode means it takes turns, it stops at stoplights,

00:58:53.429 --> 00:58:56.539
et cetera, et cetera. Turns out when the trucks

00:58:56.539 --> 00:59:00.280
came out, only the auto cruise was enabled. And

00:59:00.280 --> 00:59:03.559
the auto steer was still under development. Oh,

00:59:03.579 --> 00:59:07.360
boy. So all these, how many years the Sabre truck's

00:59:07.360 --> 00:59:10.619
been out? A couple already? A couple. The owner's

00:59:10.619 --> 00:59:12.900
been waiting for the auto steer to come out.

00:59:13.320 --> 00:59:16.559
Tesla has announced it's not coming. We've given

00:59:16.559 --> 00:59:21.599
up. It's never coming. That's fucked up. Look

00:59:21.599 --> 00:59:26.909
at the owner. I think that's the owner. Interesting.

00:59:27.349 --> 00:59:31.989
Looks like... No, no. There's a guy with gray

00:59:31.989 --> 00:59:35.670
hair that's actually the owner. Oh, okay. Like

00:59:35.670 --> 00:59:38.789
old Corvette guy? Yes, like old Corvette guy.

00:59:39.030 --> 00:59:41.650
Anyhow. So anyway, Tesla's made the announcement.

00:59:41.949 --> 00:59:44.150
AutoSteer's not coming. It's never coming. We've

00:59:44.150 --> 00:59:47.789
given up. Move on. Yes. They're not refunding

00:59:47.789 --> 00:59:50.349
any money. See, that's bullshit. What they are

00:59:50.349 --> 00:59:53.610
doing is offering you a free year of their full

00:59:53.610 --> 00:59:57.760
self -driving mode. which auto renews at whatever

00:59:57.760 --> 01:00:00.519
steep price or they have to buy it for six grand

01:00:00.519 --> 01:00:04.619
or I don't know, whatever. So instead of getting

01:00:04.619 --> 01:00:07.480
what they were promised, and instead of getting

01:00:07.480 --> 01:00:09.300
a refund since they're not getting what they're

01:00:09.300 --> 01:00:12.260
promised, they're given a taste of the more expensive

01:00:12.260 --> 01:00:15.500
one that they didn't opt for. Class action lawsuit.

01:00:15.840 --> 01:00:18.239
I would think. I would think because this is

01:00:18.239 --> 01:00:21.340
the second time. There was a previous time when

01:00:21.340 --> 01:00:23.860
Tesla said we're going to come out with an affordable,

01:00:24.730 --> 01:00:27.150
kind of everyday car for around 20 grand, et

01:00:27.150 --> 01:00:29.190
cetera, et cetera, and self -driving, blah, blah,

01:00:29.210 --> 01:00:31.409
blah. And then eventually Musk said, you know

01:00:31.409 --> 01:00:33.869
what? We can't do that. We're not going to do

01:00:33.869 --> 01:00:36.730
it. It's a pipe dream. Forget it. But since they

01:00:36.730 --> 01:00:39.250
hadn't sold it to anyone yet, there was no fraud

01:00:39.250 --> 01:00:42.150
involved. But this is bait and switch. This is

01:00:42.150 --> 01:00:45.170
definitely bait and switch. And if you do a class

01:00:45.170 --> 01:00:48.530
action, yeah, no, okay. Lawyers are going to

01:00:48.530 --> 01:00:51.090
get a majority of the money. But you'll sue them.

01:00:51.670 --> 01:00:53.849
in hopes that they don't do this bullshit again.

01:00:54.030 --> 01:00:57.130
Yeah, yeah. And I could see something like that

01:00:57.130 --> 01:00:58.849
putting Tesla out of business because they're

01:00:58.849 --> 01:01:00.630
really hurting right now. I'm really wondering

01:01:00.630 --> 01:01:02.550
if he's not wanting to go out of business anyhow

01:01:02.550 --> 01:01:05.210
because they're into so many other things. Yeah,

01:01:05.269 --> 01:01:08.349
his robo -taxi service is what he cares about.

01:01:08.429 --> 01:01:10.550
That's the only thing he cares about is all these

01:01:10.550 --> 01:01:13.489
old taxis and his self -driving. He has a new

01:01:13.489 --> 01:01:15.489
sexy thing and all the other things are just

01:01:15.489 --> 01:01:18.349
like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's been

01:01:18.349 --> 01:01:21.409
his entire business career. Move on to the next

01:01:21.409 --> 01:01:24.969
one because this one's getting stale. Yes. And

01:01:24.969 --> 01:01:27.090
he doesn't care. He's wealthy enough to where

01:01:27.090 --> 01:01:29.550
he can do that. Yeah, everybody else wants it

01:01:29.550 --> 01:01:34.449
paying the price. Currently, the inventory of

01:01:34.449 --> 01:01:37.389
unsold Cybertrucks. They've already been built.

01:01:39.269 --> 01:01:45.309
Unsold, 10 ,000 of them. And at 100 ,000 per,

01:01:45.530 --> 01:01:48.679
that's a... billion dollars of inventory sitting

01:01:48.679 --> 01:01:52.840
there unsold being stored every every month i'm

01:01:52.840 --> 01:01:55.360
waiting for the sale every month you in inventory

01:01:55.360 --> 01:01:58.320
taxes come due on that one billion dollars worth

01:01:58.320 --> 01:02:02.599
of inventory that's gotta hurt that is really

01:02:02.599 --> 01:02:05.940
gotta hurt oh yeah there's there's a office building

01:02:05.940 --> 01:02:08.480
not too far from olathe with a big parking lot

01:02:08.480 --> 01:02:11.880
and you can see probably a hundred of them sitting

01:02:11.880 --> 01:02:15.460
there unsold they're just storing them Wow. Yeah.

01:02:16.059 --> 01:02:19.599
I was teasing around on that level on the podcast

01:02:19.599 --> 01:02:22.519
last night, The Douchebags. I was listening to

01:02:22.519 --> 01:02:24.940
Spotify, and they came up with this Wells Fargo

01:02:24.940 --> 01:02:28.099
2 % commercial, where you get 2 % back on everybody.

01:02:28.659 --> 01:02:31.199
Okay, so it has this commercial where people

01:02:31.199 --> 01:02:33.179
are jumping in front of other people to pay the

01:02:33.179 --> 01:02:36.900
tab because they get 2%. Oh, yeah. I was joking

01:02:36.900 --> 01:02:38.539
around. I was like, you know, Rob, I got a new

01:02:38.539 --> 01:02:41.030
business template. I got a new thing here. I'm

01:02:41.030 --> 01:02:43.369
going to sign everybody up, all my friends up,

01:02:43.429 --> 01:02:45.610
to the ones that I go to restaurants and stuff

01:02:45.610 --> 01:02:47.610
with, to this credit card. That way they can

01:02:47.610 --> 01:02:49.489
get 2 % back and they'll jump in front of me

01:02:49.489 --> 01:02:52.760
to pay the bill. Yep. Let me spend $100 to get

01:02:52.760 --> 01:02:56.679
$2 back. Yes. Yay, I've lost $98. Yeah, they're

01:02:56.679 --> 01:03:00.239
promoting it like this is money, man, and allegedly

01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.820
and all that shit. But, you know. Well, first

01:03:02.820 --> 01:03:04.940
they made sure that we couldn't learn math in

01:03:04.940 --> 01:03:07.099
school anymore. Yes. And then they run all these

01:03:07.099 --> 01:03:09.360
scams by us that require math to see through.

01:03:09.519 --> 01:03:12.400
Yes. See how this works? You know what? I got

01:03:12.400 --> 01:03:14.900
a hurry operation coming up. You know what 2

01:03:14.900 --> 01:03:18.920
% of $80 ,000 is? there you go yeah 80 bucks

01:03:18.920 --> 01:03:25.219
go put mine go put my eye on it let's see 800

01:03:25.219 --> 01:03:28.639
that'd be 1600 bucks 1600 okay two percent is

01:03:28.639 --> 01:03:31.239
1600 bucks you could just tell them hey that's

01:03:31.239 --> 01:03:33.440
free money in your pocket you can just walk away

01:03:33.440 --> 01:03:35.360
with yeah because that's the way the commercial

01:03:35.360 --> 01:03:38.559
tells you come over and pay the bill on that

01:03:38.559 --> 01:03:41.599
be around 80 grand yep it's like all the car

01:03:41.599 --> 01:03:44.480
commercials they say 500 cash back in your pocket

01:03:44.480 --> 01:03:47.429
when you buy You walk out of here with $500 in

01:03:47.429 --> 01:03:49.050
your pocket. But you're financing for 10 years.

01:03:49.130 --> 01:03:51.150
Yeah. Yeah. It's like the only way that works

01:03:51.150 --> 01:03:53.269
is if I give you a fake name and address and

01:03:53.269 --> 01:03:56.309
I just disappear with your $500 and your car.

01:03:56.489 --> 01:03:59.969
Yeah. Or I'll be back. I'll be back to buy the

01:03:59.969 --> 01:04:03.409
car. Scouts Honor. Yeah. Give me the cash. Ugh.

01:04:03.969 --> 01:04:07.670
Bullshit. But Tesla sales, I mean, this isn't

01:04:07.670 --> 01:04:10.190
just Cybertrucks. Tesla sales across the board

01:04:10.190 --> 01:04:13.369
in Europe is being described as a death spiral.

01:04:15.599 --> 01:04:19.460
Dealerships everywhere are offering super cheap

01:04:19.460 --> 01:04:26.460
financing, generous terms, no money down, rebates,

01:04:26.460 --> 01:04:29.139
just anything to get people to buy and still

01:04:29.139 --> 01:04:32.500
no one's buying. All the deals are there. I believe

01:04:32.500 --> 01:04:35.780
it. They still don't want it. Their sales in

01:04:35.780 --> 01:04:38.539
China are totally drying up because China's building

01:04:38.539 --> 01:04:43.139
their own. There's no copyright laws there. Yeah.

01:04:44.139 --> 01:04:47.099
Their most popular model, the Model Y, they just

01:04:47.099 --> 01:04:51.079
re -released that. Total flop. Nobody wanted

01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:54.699
it. Now, adding all this up, a lot of business

01:04:54.699 --> 01:04:59.320
insiders are saying, we may have reached the

01:04:59.320 --> 01:05:02.739
entire available market for Tesla vehicles. There

01:05:02.739 --> 01:05:05.159
may not be anyone left on the planet that wants

01:05:05.159 --> 01:05:08.360
one or could be talked into one. I remember a

01:05:08.360 --> 01:05:11.699
few years back, Walmart saying, we've hired everybody

01:05:11.699 --> 01:05:14.840
that we can possibly ever hire. hired and fired

01:05:14.840 --> 01:05:18.699
there aren't any more people who are you know

01:05:18.699 --> 01:05:21.159
the right age or etc to work at walmart we've

01:05:21.159 --> 01:05:23.579
run through them all i think that's what tesla's

01:05:23.579 --> 01:05:25.639
done everybody who wants one already has one

01:05:25.639 --> 01:05:28.619
and the people who don't have one just really

01:05:28.619 --> 01:05:30.380
don't want one no matter how much you want to

01:05:30.380 --> 01:05:34.059
sell it to i think that the market was that small

01:05:34.059 --> 01:05:36.760
and it's done i think you're right yeah yeah

01:05:36.760 --> 01:05:42.650
so we'll see where tesla goes from here They

01:05:42.650 --> 01:05:45.710
recently did get an 18 % increase in earnings,

01:05:45.889 --> 01:05:48.030
which put them back in the trillion dollar club.

01:05:49.050 --> 01:05:52.690
But, eh, things go up, things go down. They just

01:05:52.690 --> 01:05:54.690
don't have any kind of long -term, nobody sees

01:05:54.690 --> 01:05:56.730
long -term business plan. All of their models

01:05:56.730 --> 01:05:59.309
are at least two years old. And there's a reason

01:05:59.309 --> 01:06:02.389
for that. He's not even thinking about it. It's

01:06:02.389 --> 01:06:04.969
like done, it's old, it's done. It's like the

01:06:04.969 --> 01:06:07.150
company Tesla's in the worst possible position.

01:06:07.469 --> 01:06:10.110
He's still meddling, but he's not there to make

01:06:10.110 --> 01:06:13.659
anything work. He stirs in just enough to screw

01:06:13.659 --> 01:06:15.820
things up, and then he leaves again, and the

01:06:15.820 --> 01:06:18.219
people left behind at Tesla have to fix it, make

01:06:18.219 --> 01:06:21.320
it work, figure something out. And then he comes

01:06:21.320 --> 01:06:23.619
running back and screws it up again, or makes

01:06:23.619 --> 01:06:29.099
wild promises. It's kind of a disaster. Yes.

01:06:31.449 --> 01:06:34.130
You know what, he's on SpaceX and all these other

01:06:34.130 --> 01:06:37.469
things. So, and like you said, the robo service

01:06:37.469 --> 01:06:39.610
and all that. And I'm not even sure if SpaceX

01:06:39.610 --> 01:06:42.269
is that high on the list anymore. Yeah, I don't

01:06:42.269 --> 01:06:45.849
think so. I can see in about 10 to 15 years,

01:06:46.010 --> 01:06:50.769
if I'm still around, the Tesla brand will have

01:06:50.769 --> 01:06:54.869
been sold and mothballed and then will be reworked.

01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:59.440
brought back as a re like you know the new tesla

01:06:59.440 --> 01:07:01.360
remember how they started making deloreans again

01:07:01.360 --> 01:07:03.679
yes and they started making indian motorcycles

01:07:03.679 --> 01:07:06.400
again somebody will just buy the brand and say

01:07:06.400 --> 01:07:08.880
okay now we're going to do it right here's the

01:07:08.880 --> 01:07:12.409
new era of So we may see Tesla come back under

01:07:12.409 --> 01:07:15.090
different ownership after a period of time. Hopefully,

01:07:15.090 --> 01:07:17.070
I think we will, and it's going to be like a

01:07:17.070 --> 01:07:19.750
Toyota or a Nissan or something like that. Well,

01:07:19.750 --> 01:07:22.070
Nissan, aren't they in bad financial trouble?

01:07:22.230 --> 01:07:24.909
Nissan is looking desperately for an owner. They

01:07:24.909 --> 01:07:26.550
thought Honda was going to help them out, but

01:07:26.550 --> 01:07:28.730
Honda changed their mind and said, nah, we're

01:07:28.730 --> 01:07:30.170
fine. We're going to do so much better without

01:07:30.170 --> 01:07:32.989
you in the market. We don't need you. So, yeah,

01:07:33.030 --> 01:07:36.949
Nissan could collapse, and then people will just

01:07:36.949 --> 01:07:43.840
pick up the pieces. Yeah. Yep. Well, I don't

01:07:43.840 --> 01:07:45.900
know. You got anything else? That's kind of how

01:07:45.900 --> 01:07:48.679
I run out of stuff. Yeah, me too. All my stuff's

01:07:48.679 --> 01:07:52.400
at home, so I'll use it next week. Yeah. Anyhow,

01:07:52.420 --> 01:07:54.519
all right. Hey, everybody, thank you for listening.

01:07:54.579 --> 01:07:57.460
Like I said, a lot of listeners, we appreciate

01:07:57.460 --> 01:07:58.900
you, and go fuck yourself.