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there we go. That was it. I cracked myself up.
You know, I keep promising to record this. I
like it just like this. It's random and chaotic.
Yeah, and I never know what shit you're going
to find the drum on. I've been finding things
to bang on since I think the day I was born.
There's a great school teacher telling me to
quit banging on the desk with my pencils. People
using different kitchen utensils to play Nirvana.
Yeah, I used wooden spoons a lot. I'd go out
and find sticks in the yard. Yeah. Anything that
sounded different or a different percussion,
it's like, hey, this will work too. A friend
of mine in grade school actually did. play the
drums, and he gave me a pair of his old drumsticks,
so I was going to town with those. Oh, you were
hitting everything. My mom took them away. Of
course. Well, I was damaging things, so I can
understand that. She should have just bought
me a practice pad. Christopher? Yeah? You know
anything about this vase? No. Why are there holes
all over the dashboard of my car? Nothing? I
mean, wipeout? I mean, no? A bug. A bug. Giant
bug. All right. So, musical stuff. You got a
little bonus music stuff on the Sports Bastards.
Yeah, yeah. So you ought to be happy. You have
some stuff while I look up some of the stuff
that I had written down. Yeah. I've either got
guitar players who are underappreciated for their
rhythm guitaring. That's good. Let's go to that.
All right. Because I can add some right off the
bat. Yeah. First and foremost, I've got Malcolm
Young, ACDC. Oh, God, yeah. Even with all the
credit he gets, it's not enough. I agree. I'm
just going to put it that way. When he was failing
in health, then their brother Stevie Young filled
in, who looks almost exactly like him, so people
couldn't tell. Uh -huh. He'd kind of get an honorable
mention, but he was just playing parts that Malcolm
wrote. Which, you know, that's half the work.
So it's definitely got to go to Malcolm because
he originated those parts, he played them perfectly,
and he was rock solid. I mean, dead steady. Yeah,
I agree. Next up, I'm going to see James Hetfield,
Metallica. Because Mr. Wah pedal, Kirk Hamnett,
gets most of the solos. Yeah, that's right. And
I agree. I agree with that. Pretty much every
time you hear a wah pedal going, that's Kirk
Hamnett taking a solo. Yeah, and you know our
version on what we think of wah -wah pedals,
especially when you're doing a solo. Yeah. They're
cheap. It means you don't know the emotion that
you're trying to portray. Less is more. Less
is way more. Yes. Yeah, they're way more effective
on rhythm guitar. I agree. In my opinion. What
do I know? I'm just an idiot drummer, right?
Let's see. There's always Mick Mars. Definitely.
To some degree, I think that Vinnie Vincent had
that same thing. True. Yeah, I mean, he had some
stuff that was way out there and he was fast.
But some of the rhythms that he did on Creatures
of the Night and Lick It Up. were really, really
intense and really good. I would put Paul Stanley
in there, too. I would, too. And that's where
I was going to, Paul Stanley. Yeah, it was primarily
Ace and then whoever replaced Ace were the lead
guitarists, which makes more sense. Paul is doing
a hell of a lot more singing. Although Paul does
play a lot of lead now, or he did. And from what
I understood, it was out of necessity because
Ace would be all... messed up and he'd have to
carry it. Plus it was kind of the image of the
band to have Ace doing the leads and Spotlight
goes to him. I agree. I would say Keith Richards
of the Stones. Very much so. Excellent rhythm
guitar player. And has been for probably the
last 250 years. Yes. If not longer. Here's one
out of the past. Chuck Berry. Oh, yeah. He was
fast, but, man, he could play that rhythm. Yeah.
I like that one a lot. And he could do that while
duck walking. Yes. Which you've got to have good
knees to do that, man. I couldn't do that when
I was young. Yep. No, me neither. Especially
just playing guitar and doing something like
that. Yeah. What about Bob Weir? of the Grateful
Dead. Not really a fan of their music, but gotta
give him credit for being dead solid, especially
considering how many drugs he was on at any given
moment. Yeah. I think that's pretty solid rhythm
guitar. Oh, I agree. And also, Mark Knoppler.
Yes. Mark Knoppler is so underrated as a rhythm.
And before that, his brother Dave Knoppler, who
was in Dire Straits. through, I think, the album
Making Movies. That's right, and then he went
out on Making Movies. He replaced his brother
Dave Knopfler and the drummer Pick Withers. Pick
Withers, yeah. Who I really liked Pick Withers
as a drummer. I thought he was awesome, but he
was doing a different sound. Since Mark Knopfler
was basically becoming all of Dire Straits at
that point, he decided to go whichever direction
he wanted. It would have been Mark Knopfler's
solo career. Yeah. Except, you know, he had the
ability to just do it into the name. Yeah, I
don't blame him. What about John Lennon? Yeah.
George took all the leads, pretty much. Yeah.
I would say so, yeah. Yeah, I would say so. It's
a song that's like revolution. You know, he gets
that real early punk feel. Helter Skelter is
like out of control. Yeah, Helter Skelter was,
yeah. Yeah. And then he could play the soft and
pretty ones like Yesterday. Jimmy Page. Yeah.
Yeah. As sloppy as he was, it worked and worked
really well. He's like Steve Clark of Def Leppard.
Yes. Where he was sloppy, but his rhythm playing
was just perfect for what they were doing. I
agree. Yeah. I agree. I should have written Steve
Clark down. Let's see. What next? Dave Mustaine?
Yes. Yes. I think in Metallica he was more of
a lead player, but in Megadeth he plays a heck
of a lot of rhythm. I agree. He holds himself
to a very high standard. I think a little dragonfly
went down my throat. Whoa, that was crazy. Part
of Dave Mustaine's greatest achievement besides
great rhythm guitar is his songwriting ability
with the rhythm. True. So I would agree with
that 100%. Wow. Some sort of flying thing just
went straight down my throat. That was nasty.
Sorry about that. That sucks. Here's one not
everybody will know about. Nile Rodgers. He was
a producer, songwriter, rhythm guitar player.
His band was called Chic. Remember that song,
Freak Out? Yeah. Yeah. So he played rhythm guitar
on way more songs than you know. I think that's
a good choice. Scott Ian of Anthrax. Another
good one. He's not the lead player. I agree.
Tony Iommi. Yeah, I've got him last in all capitals.
Yeah, of course. I was going to put him first,
but yeah. And I've got two, and just listen to
me on this, Richie Blackmore and John Lord. Ah.
John Lord was a keyboardist, but he played it
like a guitar. He did. He played rhythm guitar
on keys. He really did. Yeah, he did. And a lot
of times, Blackmore would follow him, and if
Blackmore was in a solo, he kept the rhythm going
with the keyboards. I would put... Tom Peterson
of Cheap Trick in there. That's a good one, yeah.
Because he played rhythm guitar on the bass.
And he also has his bass. The 12 -stringer. The
12 -stringer that you can turn over and actually
be a guitar. That thing, one of the most noted
ones that a lot of people don't know about it,
about his bass, is Jeremy. The notes that you
hear on that, that you're not sure what the hell
it is. It took me a while to figure out what
was making those sounds. Yeah. It is actually
Tom Peterson's bass. Yeah. Played by Stone Gossard.
Yeah, Stone Gossard. Doesn't hurt. No, wait.
Stone Gossard was a guitar player. No, no, no.
It was... Oh, gosh. Jeff Ament. Yes, thank you.
Thank you. Sorry, Stone. Sorry, Jeff. I think
I've been saying Stone Gossard for a long time.
Yeah, he was a guitarist. I don't know why I
fell in for him. Okay. Rudy Shanker of the Scorpions.
That's a good one. Yeah. I agree. Been solid
for years. Izzy Stradlin from GNR. One of my
favorite, actually. Yeah, you mentioned that
last time. I wanted to make sure he was on the
list. Yeah, he's awesome. And we mentioned Brad
Whitford from Aerosmith. Absolutely. There comes
that dragonfly back out. Here's one close to
your heart. Adrian Smith of Iron Maiden. Oh,
yes. I figured you'd get that. And Dave Murray,
too. Yeah. what's his name uh janik janik gears
yeah he's their third guitarist and he is bruce
dickinson's guitarist for a long time um he doesn't
play any rhythm that i can tell so we can't really
include him in on it he's more of a guy um i
put in steve proper He was the rhythm guitar
player for Booker T and the MGs. Yeah. And they
were the house band at Stax Records. So all those
things you heard from Otis Redding and Wilson
Pickett and all those bands that are released
on Stax Records, that was Steve Cropper on rhythm
guitar. Oh, okay. So basically, people would
come in with a song, and they would sing it,
and the house band would play it. Yeah. And that
was Steve Cropper over and over and over. And
he was in the Blues Brothers movie, in case you
want to see him there. Oh, okay. Jerry Cantrell.
Oh, yeah. That guy. He's another one that his
rhythms write the songs. Yeah. He's a songwriter
that comes up with these incredible rhythms,
kind of like Iommi. It's not just the notes or
the way you shape the chords. It's the syncopation.
The syncopation. Yeah. It's amazing. The way
he hits the notes, the way he hits the chords
in sync. Makes the whole feeling of the song.
Yeah. You can tell if it's an angry song, a happy
song, a sad song. A threatening song. A threatening
song, and there's a few of them. So, yeah. All
right, Alex Lifeson, Rush. Oh, very good, yes.
Because there were bass, at times the bass was
the lead, there were times where the drums were
the lead, there were times the keyboard was the
lead, Alex was rock steady. His tone, though.
Yeah. His tone. And I didn't learn until later
that from their beginning through, I think, 2112,
Alex Lifeson really had only one guitar. It was
a Gibson semi -hollow body ES -335. And that
was all he could afford, his one good guitar.
So that was a semi -hollow body playing all those
Rush records. That guy never got enough credit
and never will. You know, he was going to do
a solo thing. I wanted to hear it so bad, but
he never did. He's now selling... His signature
guitar. Yeah. So that's very cool. Lindsey Buckingham.
Yes. That's another good one. And that's interesting
because he never wanted to play electric guitar.
Yeah. Yeah. Mick Fleetwood went out and bought
him a Les Paul and said, here, play the damn
thing. We need rock and roll records. Yes. I've
got Stone Gossard of Pearl Jam down for rhythm.
Yeah. I said Keith Richards earlier. The other
guitar player, Ron Wood. Oh, yeah. Because he
also played with The Faces and Rod Stewart, Jeff
Beck. Jeff Beck is another one that you can say.
Yeah, and when you're playing with Jeff Beck,
you're playing a lot of rhythm. Yes. Because
he's doing the leads. Yes. So I'm saying yes.
Yeah, Ron Wood is an excellent rhythm player.
Yeah. Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane. Very
much so. Yeah. Very underrated, too. And he was
a big songwriter for them, too. Yeah, I mean,
a lot of them really liked Jane and stuff like
that. I think that was Starship when they were
just Starship. But Miracles and what are some
of the Jefferson Airplane hits? Somebody to Love,
another one. Of course, White Rabbit. White Rabbit.
I think that was Jorma Calconen. Okay, did he
do Jane or not? I think he was still with them
during that album. I think he dropped off after
Knee Deep in the Hoopla. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And
I understand why, too. Yeah, it was just designed
to be commercial and not so much about the music.
If I Borrow Your Pet, I got a worse song. It
was their number one hit. Thank you. And then
the last one I have was Robin Zander, but I think
I want to replace him with Tom Peterson. Since,
like we talked about earlier, I think he was
playing a lot more of the rhythms than Robin
was, especially live. Okay. I agree. I just had
to write down the song and the worst ones that
I thought. So I have got... that's it that's
it i got for rhythm guitar players okay do you
want to do the worst songs or the best or the
uh yeah it's kind of a the category is you know
a successful band but their biggest hit was either
mediocre or their worst song or they hate playing
it or Somehow their biggest song, the one they're
most known for, just isn't really their best
song. We just touched on it. I had to write it
down, but it turns out I didn't have to write
it down. Starship, We Built This City. Yeah.
Was their biggest hit. Awful. And it was awful.
Just an awful song. The whole album was pretty
awful. It was. And that's why Kattner, I'm pretty
sure, said, nah, don't thank I. I think he bailed
at that point. I think so too. See you guys.
Sticks. Oh, did I? Kilroy was here. Yeah, yeah.
Mr. Roboto. Mr. Roboto was here. That was it,
yeah. I think I saw that on the list. I forgot
to write it down. They have so many songs that
are a hundred times better. Oh, I know. Oasis.
Yeah. Wonderwall. Absolutely. Wonderwall is,
it's okay, but it's, there's just, there's not
much there. No. No, it's kind of a lame song,
and it's just written for radio play. Yeah, it's
kind of unfinished. It's like, this should be
part of another song. It needs to go somewhere
from here. Radiohead, Creep. That's a good one.
Yeah. That's another one that the band really
doesn't like to play much anymore. No. Those
wild, crashing rhythm guitar sounds that happened
right before the chorus, that was the rhythm
guitar trying to sabotage the recording because
he hated the song so much. But they left it in.
Too bad he didn't. Yeah. Billy Joel, We Didn't
Start the Fire. Yeah. That's... It's like a gimmick
song. It's the rapid -fire delivery, the auctioneer
kind of vibe. It's fun, but it's kind of a gimmick
song. He has so many more songs that are so much
more meaningful. She knows how awful and irritating
I am. How about the pretenders? Yes, I've got
that one too. I'm going to cross that one off.
In fact, the singer Chrissy Hynde really didn't
like that either. They had to kind of talk her
into doing it. Yeah. Uh, where is that? I have
that written down. There it is. Off it goes.
Um, I've spoken to this many times with Guns
N' Roses, Sweet Child, Earl, mine. Yeah. Yeah.
Um. Number one hit. It had a great hook to it.
Yeah, it did. That's about it. But ironically,
the hook is a finger exercise that Slash saw
in a book. And it was something he would do to
limber up his fingers. And he's like, oh, I'll
make that a song. It worked. It worked. Life
in the Fast Lane started as a finger exercise.
You did it? Yep. Yep. Dust in the Wind was a
finger exercise that Cary Livren did. And his
wife kept saying, there's a song there. You've
got to write that. That's going to be a song.
And he finally did an enormous hit. That was
her biggest song. Madonna, Like a Virgin. Yes.
That song is horrendous. Same with Material Girl,
but that wasn't quite a hit. What is it? Material
Girl, that was also a horrible song. You know,
yeah, it's kind of a... That could be debated
which song was worse. Yeah. I think maybe Material
Girl might be a little bit worse. Yeah. Here's
a band from the 70s, early 80s, Squeeze. They
had a hit with Tempted. Yes. Tempted by the fruit
of another. I think it's horrible. It's okay.
It's good for listening to in the background
while there's a game on. It's a radio song. Yeah.
There's so much better songs from them. A lot
of people say that I'm not on board with this.
Nirvana smells like teen spirit. That made my
list, too. I think that's a good song. I do,
too. Granted, they have better ones, but it's
not a bad song. It is a good song. Yeah, I've
never agreed to that. That's been going a long
time. A lot of people have been saying that.
No, no, look at their body at work. I think some
of the stuff on the second side of the utero
is probably worse. Yeah. And I think it smells
like teen spirit kind of captured what they're
saying. I think so. It was the perfect intro
to the band. I mean, it was the perfect first
impression, that's what I should say, for the
hand. I thought it was great. Yeah, I thought
so too. It was an apathy song, and it worked.
Everyone's like, ah, fuck this, I'm not doing
it. Remember the original Top Gun movie? The
theme music was Take My Breath Away by Berlin.
Worst song they ever put out. Ironically, it's
the one they didn't write. They were just hired
to perform it for the soundtrack. What hit on
that was the bass. Yeah. Yeah, kind of a synthesized
bass. Yeah. The guitar player for Berlin quit
over that song because he hated playing it live
as their encore because he's like, we didn't
even write this and it's a shit song. I hate
playing this as my encore. So he just quit the
band. Stick to his convictions. Got standards.
Yeah. You know what? Nothing wrong with that,
man. Yeah. All right, Warrant. Cherry Pie. Yep,
I got that one. I'm going to cross it off right
now. Warrant was okay. Cherry Pie sucked. Yeah.
It was written for teenagers. Yeah. Go ahead,
what? It was written for Beavis and Butthead.
Yes. Basically, yeah. And they had another song
that was released as a single that... became
quite unfortunate for them called Uncle Tom's
Cabin. Yes, it was a great song, but the theme
automatically didn't. The title. Just mentioning
that book title is going to set a whole bunch
of people's teeth on edge. And did you know that's
off of a true story? The guy had an Uncle Tom,
and the sheriff's like killed somebody and threw
him in a well. And that was, he said that was
real. He said that is something that happened.
But what has come to represent is now all that
we think about. He should have changed the name
to Uncle Jerry or something. Yeah, but the way
he made the point during the song, you couldn't
tell what exactly he was talking about. And any
way it came out, it sounded awkward and slightly
offensive and very easily taken wrong. So yeah,
they should have changed the name to Uncle Jerry.
Jerry or, you know, Uncle Wilhelmina. Well, he
tried to stick with the real name of his uncle's
story or whatever. Call it Uncle Thomas. Uncle
Thomas. You know, call it Uncle Tommy. Or you
know, call it his lodge. You know, but somebody
said, oh, let's use Uncle Tom's Cabin as the
title because that will get people's attention.
Them coming out in blackface, didn't they? No,
that didn't work. No, they did not. They did
not. That would be funny as hell. Yeah, they
did not. That's a joke. All right. Here's a good
one. Oh, go ahead. No, go ahead. Butthole Surfers,
Pepper. Oh, yes. Was their biggest hit. Yeah.
I don't mind the sun sometimes, the images it
shows. On and on and on. They had so many better
songs. I mean, that was okay, and it got them
some radio airplay. It was horrible. They had
so much better songs than that. Yeah. They had
a lot better songs. And before that song, that's
when they started shifting and becoming more
radio. I've seen a number of past band members
from the Butthole Surfers and the Melvins have
been selling off their road gear on a used website,
Reverb .com, which incidentally just got bought
by Fender. They did? Yeah, who knows how that's
going to change things. And I noticed suddenly
Fender products are featured way more prominently
on Reverb .com. I'm sure that's... but there
was like this 400 or 800 watt bass amp and cabinet
that was used by the melvins and they still had
the set list taped to the side and all the tubes
were new and it was like i don't know it was
like 12 grand or something it was just nuts but
the stories that i mean that thing probably had
to smell awful considering all the concerts it
went to i would have loved to had it if i had
12 grand to throw away Yeah. All right. How about
REM, Shiny Happy People? Yes. Yes. I'm not a
huge REM fan. They have probably a handful of
songs that I like and listen to. Yeah. But not
that one. I agree. Definitely not that one. I
would put the B -52s with Rock Lobster as their
worst song. Because even Sugar Shack was better.
Or Love Shack. Yeah, it was Love Shack. Love
Shack was better than Rock Lobster. Oh, I agree.
How about Metallica, Until It Sleeps? Their 90s
try, and I'm not sure if it was their biggest
hit, but it was a big hit. They were horrible
on that. Anyhow, you're getting ready to say
one. Go ahead. Here's a couple that are pretty
obvious. Deep Purple, Smoke on the Water. Yeah.
I mean, throw a dart at any Deep Purple album,
and you'll hit a better song. Yes. And not the
Smoke in the Water is terrible. Especially on
that album. Yeah. It's a fine song as it is,
but oh my God, the radio play it got was totally
undeserved. Well, part of Richie Blackmore's
documentary, for throughout the 70s and most
of the 80s, they had to have a sign on all the
music stores that said, do not play Smoke on
the Water. Yep. And sometimes they abbreviate
it as 0 -3 -5, which is the chords you're playing
to zero position, three, and then five. And they'd
have 0 -3 -5 with a red circle and line through
it. And then they could write, this is Richie
Blackmore's approved way of playing it. Nothing
else. Yes. Yeah, there's still music stories.
You can play Stairway or Mustang Sally or...
Wish You Were Here by Pink Floyd. Oh, yeah, that's
another one. It'll run your ass right out. Yep.
The second very obvious one is Def Leppard, Pour
Some Sugar On Me. Yes. Oh, I hate that one. I
turned that one off. No, I do too. The first
150 times I heard it, it was okay. You ever hear
the term butt rock? Yes. There. Yep. All right.
And especially from a band like Def Leppard that
is fully capable of writing really good hard
rock songs. Yeah. Yeah, well, as they tell you
in their documentary, the album, the record label
wanted one more song to fill out the album, so
they went off in a hurry and wrote Pour Some
Sugar On Me and threw it together in a couple
days and recorded it, and they didn't think it
was going to be anything. It winds up being the
massive hit. But to them, it was just a throwaway,
last -minute kind of thing. They didn't even
think about it too hard. Also, another thing
that happened there was that was also a DJ pick.
Yes. That was the backside of... Animal? Could
have been Animal. No, it was not Hysteria. No,
Animal was on Hysteria, you're right. I think
one of the hits was on Hysteria. Was it Rock
Rock Till You Drop? That was probably it. Yeah,
which didn't do that well. It did okay. And then
the flip side was Pour Some Sugar On Me, and
that became a hit way, like three years after
the album was released. I think the first time
Pour Some Sugar On Me hit the radio airwaves,
every stripper in the country raised their head
like, they're playing the song of my people.
Yes. And that became the stripper's song. It
probably still is. It probably still is, yeah.
How about the Beastie Boys? Oh, yes. Fight for
Your Ride is a ridiculously horrible song. Yeah,
and they wrote it to be a bad song, and they
wrote the lyrics, making fun of party boys. And
who adopted the song and used it as their anthem?
Party boys. Party boys, yeah. Nothing like standing
around chanting the song that says, I'm an idiot,
I'm stupid, my life is pointless. Yes. I guess
just hilarious watching. And Travis Kelsey, when
they won the Super Bowl, he kept chanting us
that, okay, Kelsey, you're one of those idiot
loser party boys that they were singing about.
When you're drunk off your ass, you're one of
those idiot loser party boys. Yes, he's a guy
that's, he's at Margarita's drinking a big margarita.
Yep. Yeah. With a tank top. Screaming, woo -woo!
All right. The Who, Pinball Wizard. Oh, absolutely.
I had that one. Yeah, this was not their biggest
hit, but it was big enough to bitch about. I
remember hearing it nonstop one year in my youth.
It was like 12 months of Pinball Wizard. And
then Elton John did a remake when the movie came
out. And then we had to hear it all over again.
Oh, kill me now. Kill me or kill the radio. Just
pick one. How about Blue Oyster Cult, Don't Fear
the Reaper? Yes, absolutely. I think I had that
on my alternate list. Yeah, so many better songs.
That whole album was just packed with killer
songs. Was that Agents of Fortune? Yes. Yeah,
so good. Yeah, there's so many songs. Like the
tone off City in Flames. With rock and roll.
Yep. That guitar tone on that is just insane.
I think I was talking about another song, but
that's the song I meant. Yeah. Was City of Flames
with rock and roll. That tone on that guitar,
I don't know how the hell he does it. Is that
Buck Dharma? Buck Dharma was one, and Alan Bouchard
was the other. I think it might have been Bouchard.
Yeah. But Bouchard, the tone that he gets on
that thing, just listen to it sometime. It's
mute metallic sound that you don't hear all the
time. Yeah. You wonder what amp were you using?
What gear were you using? How did you record
that? And nobody ever asks him either, and it
drives me nuts. It's like, for God's sake, ask
him about that song. Al Bouchard is still active.
He's in a band called Blue Poop with his brother,
Steve. Bouchard, I think it is, on drums. Steve
Bouchard, yeah. And ex -Alice Cooper bass player
Dennis Dunaway on bass. That's where the coop
comes from. How's the music? I don't know about
the hook. It's nice, fun, bluesy rock. You know,
three -piece band, and it's nice. I like it.
It's fun to listen to. It's nothing wild or earth
-shattering or pounding out the distorted guitar,
but it's good music. I like it. Are bar chords
real music or is it filler? Bar chords. Those
are tough. I know. Bar chords are the bane of
my existence right now. Bar chords command something
out of my fingers that it does not want to do.
I know, yeah. My fingers look at me and go, no.
I can do it fairly slowly. Yeah, but... But not
quick enough to actually play anything. Power
chords, man. I love the power chords. Yeah, power
chords are the best. Usually two fingers and
you're like... Okay, people argue that bar chords
are only there to look flashy. There are a lot
of other ways that you could play those same
chords in... You don't need the bar chord. You
can play an inversion of it, and you still have
open strings, and you can play those just all
up and down the neck. Yeah, basically they're
saying bar chords are snotty and don't need to
happen. Yeah, I can see that. And there's also
some pushback against capos. Yes, that's another
one. Basically what you're doing with a capo
is you're transposing the song. So all the chords
you were going to play, and the song's in E,
you slide the capo up to the G, and now you can
do all those same exact chords, and now the song's
in G. So you don't have to change anything about
what your fingers are doing, and it's in a different
key. Yeah, and I can see people not liking that
too, because that doesn't need to happen either.
You can just play your guitar naturally. And
get that, you know. Yeah, and there again, you
can find a way to play that G, that E chord up
the neck at G to where it sounds like an E chord,
but it's higher. Anyway. But I've asked a number
of guitar players, and most of them say, yeah,
capos are a thing. Yeah, it's no big deal. Because
at first I thought, that's kind of cheating.
It's like you can't learn those chords, so you
use a capo instead, like training wheels. They
said, not really. There are times when the capo
is absolutely what you need. Okay. Now, how about
this? Okay. Bands that have one guitarist, they
have rhythm and lead going at the same time.
Yeah. Okay. Now, live, people don't like that
either because it has to have someone backing
them up. Most of them don't bring another guitarist
on to do their songs. Yeah. So it's a backing
music that they have there. Now, do you think
that that is correct on that? Or do you think
that they either need to change the song to where
it doesn't have rhythm and lead at the same time?
Or should the bass take over the rhythm? That's
a good point because the first time I heard ZZ
Top play live and the guitar player totally dropped
the rhythm was just playing lead. Yeah. And so
I had the lead, the bass, and the drums, and
man, there was a big hole right in the middle
of that sound. Yeah. And I thought, damn, they
need a second guitar player playing all those
rhythm parts because that's half the song right
there. So I would be more in favor of, I mean,
if you want to bring a guest musician and have
them stand on stage and play the rhythm parts,
or if you want to have them stand backstage and
play the rhythm parts live, I would rather see
that than a backing track. Now, okay, standing
behind the stage, I'm cool with too. Yeah. And
that's been going on for years and decades. Yes.
But a backing track is starting to get to the
point where it's not a live performance anymore.
No, I know. Well, so many of them aren't anyhow.
No, they're really not. It passes as live. Live
is not a regulated term, so anything can qualify
as a live performance. Blackie Lawless actually
brought up some really good points because people
are giving him shit about having some backing
tracks. So, okay. He said that they simply do
not have the personnel to do it. So they have
to. And they probably couldn't afford the personnel
and still be able to do this tour for the price
they did. That's what he was saying. Yeah. To
make it an affordable. That's true, yes. But
also, I think that Salsa News is a crutch. And
let me tell you why. I went to a couple of WOS
shows because they're obviously probably, I don't
think they're coming back to America. They rarely
do anyhow. They sell so much overseas. but not
over here. They were in Wichita when I saw them.
So there you go. 2 ,000 people at best. So they're
not that big of an act over here anymore. So
I understand that, but also I did see this on
both shows. Blackie Law's mic stand has a skull
and crossbones right in front of his face. Why
do you think that is? I'm going to guess protection
from things thrown from the audience. Well, maybe
that too. So you can't catch him not singing.
Yes, to block off his lips. Because I tried to
figure this out in Tulsa when I sang. I'm like,
why in the hell would he do that? People want
to see him. You're right. And then the same thing
again. And I'm like... That's what it is. Because
I could not tell. I'm like trying to look and
see him what he is singing and he isn't. Wow.
You cannot. It's like when the guitar player
turns his back because he can't fake the chords
that are about to happen on the backing track.
Yes. Uh -huh. Wow. Yep. I was thinking about
when you said about he went to Wichita instead
of Kansas City. It probably looks better from
a business standpoint rather than come to a city
the size of Kansas City. and only sell 10 ,000
tickets for whatever amount of money, it looks
better to go to Wichita and sell 10 ,000 tickets
for the same amount of money. Exactly. Because
if you do it here, it looks like wasted potential,
lost revenue, left something behind. You do it
in Wichita, it's like, this is all we're going
to get anyway. Let's go somewhere where it looks
like a big deal. Yeah. That kind of makes sense.
I'd do the same thing if I was in that situation.
I think so, because that way you can brag. Look
at our last tour. We were capacity here, capacity
there. Yeah. Because you're picking the smaller
places. That's right. We won't talk about that.
The real fans will travel three and a half hours
like me. That's true. Like Davey. We travel three
and a half hours to go see them. And they'll
make an event. They'll buy more merchandise.
Yeah. It all works out. Yeah. So, yeah. And also
cheaper. I think a hotel in Wichita is anything
near a hotel in Kansas City. Easier to get in
and out of the city. Yes. Yeah. There's all sorts
of advantages. the venue is cheaper yeah uh the
cotillion is the same venue that he played when
they started out in 1983. cool their first tour
ever anyhow go ahead something i was going to
say where i kind of make i kind of understand
uh blackie's point is he's trying to recreate
a performance that they created during their
heyday when there was almost no budget anything
goes and they could do no wrong and now you've
got to recreate that on a budget. It's a little
difficult. I'm okay with acts scaling down their
performance to kind of fit the current financial
situation that they're in. I agree. You don't
need the big pyrotechnics and the massive laser
shows, but give me some good staging and some
excellent musicians and light the thing well
enough that I can see who's doing what at any
given time. I hate dark stages. Oh, I do too.
It sucks. I do too. But I think I would be a
lot more inclined to go see, you know, some band
that was, you know, some big spectacle in their
heyday. But now, hey, we've toned it down now
because we're playing smaller clubs. I'd be perfectly
fine with that. Well, I was perfectly fine with
the Ross show. And I do understand what he's
saying. And I also do understand that the guy's
near 70. Yes, that's the point. Yeah. So all
of this combined, I mean, and his voice style
is not like a true singing style. It's more of
a growling nasal. Yeah. You know. Some of the
singers that really can't sing all that well
wind up having longer careers because they never
push their voice. Yeah. But then you have the
people like Glenn Hughes that you can put a candle
up to his mouth when he's singing and it'll never
go out. Yeah. Because he sings so well from his
diaphragm. Breath control is amazing. Yes. And
he's just an amazing singer, naturally. Yeah.
But he still has a voice he did because he sings
correctly, too. Yeah. Then you have the ones
that kind of, you know, do things a little bit
different. Now, Flacky, his voice isn't, he can't
do what he used to do. Yeah. Just like Ace really
can. He sings in a lower register. Has to. Elton
John said the same thing. Same thing. He's lost
quite a bit off the upper range. Yeah. A lot
of his hits he has to transpose. Yes. So. I see
why Blackie did that. I totally see why he did
that. And also, it really didn't take away from
the show because people like me and Davey that
were there were fans that just wanted to see
him. True, true. It was kind of like with Ozzy's
concert in July. At this point, we really don't
care how involved he is as long as he's there
and we can see him. And I think people are going
to be satisfied with that. Yeah. Well, they're
going to have to be, evidently. Yeah, yeah. But
anything less than physically seeing him on the
stage I think is going to cause a lot of trouble.
And another thing is the flying throne is not
confirmed. Zach Wilde said that going, you just
put him on a flying throne and people ramble.
So that's actually not true and not what's going
to happen. A man as fragile as Ozzy, I wouldn't
put him on a flying throne. I mean, why not just
strap him to Tommy Lee's upside -down drum set
while you're at it? The sad fact is, is Ozzy
is not well, and he's not going to get better.
No. They say that he wants to do one last show.
This is him saying goodbye to everybody because
they know that it's coming up. Yeah, the overwhelming
sense I get is whatever you can do, Ozzy, is
going to be good enough. Don't worry about it.
As long as you're there and we can physically
see you. Are you good with it? I am. Absolutely.
I just want to see him one last time. Yeah. I
mean, even if he's backstage and they show him
with a video camera sitting backstage waving
because he can't make it out on the stage, that
would be all right. That would be fine with me,
too. But if he never shows up, it's going to
smell like a ripoff. Yes. It really is. And,
I mean... It wouldn't be so bad, but you're talking
about Sharon Osbourne. Yes, that's the reason
I'm concerned is because Sharon's in charge.
A lot of people have reservations about her for
a lot of different reasons. Yeah, I could definitely
totally see why people are kind of nervous about
it, going, hey, is this an upsell? But it is
all going to charity, too. Well, I hope for the
best. I do, too. Hopefully he has a really good
day and he'd come out there. I don't know, maybe
stand with a cane or something like he had been
doing. But they said that it's taken away his
ability to walk and he's in a wheelchair. So
something tells me it would be too dangerous
to put him out there on a cane. Yeah, yeah. I
can see that. Yeah, I think he's going to make
it until July. But I think it's going to be a
struggle to have him participate in anything
much. And I really hope that the effort he puts
into this doesn't shorten his life in the long
run, you know, because that would be extra sad.
I'm not sure he cares. Yeah, I can see that.
He mentioned the other day, he said, I want to
do this because I don't want to be found dead
in some hotel room. Yeah. That's pretty much
admitting stuff right there. Yeah, I think so.
Yeah. Yeah. He's not going to come right out
and say, look, we estimate I got it two years
at best. Yeah. So he's got to say different things,
like, oh, I didn't want to die in some hotel
room. Some people have the idea. Probably coming
up. Yeah. Anyhow, we love y 'alls. Yeah. All
right. I've got a few more bands. Oh, we really
went off on you. Sorry. Who's I got? Dire Straits?
Money for Nothing? Yes. They have so many better
songs than that. I don't even listen to Money
for Nothing. When the CD comes out, I skip right
over it. It's like the second or third track,
and I skip right over it. That's another song
that has references in it that you can't believe
they left in. Yeah. It says the F -A -G word.
Yeah, yeah. The little F with the earring and
the makeup. That ain't working. That's the way
you do it. The little F word is a millionaire.
Yeah. Yeah. That was pretty rough. Yeah, he's
got his own jet airplane. Pink Floyd, Money.
And you know it was written about Michael Jackson,
too. That song. Oh, I think it was, yeah. And
they're saying the F and all that. I wonder how
Michael Jackson felt about that. Scam likely.
Oh, okay. That guy calls me all the time. Oh,
yeah. He always tries to get on the show. I think
Pink Floyd's Money. is a much overrated song.
Very much so. It's not that good. I think the
big lure to that is, one, it's in the Funky Time
signature, and two, he says the word bullshit
on the radio. I was getting ready to say, yeah,
that's another one. That was the draw. It was
everybody, he said bullshit, and they didn't
bleep it. Yeah. If that's good enough, I mean,
if that's enough, then that's not much of a song,
I don't think. I mean, any other song on the
album was better than that one. Yes. That's another
one of the case of the worst song on the album
being the hit. Yeah. And I think that's one of
the best examples, actually. Yeah. It was through
the rest of the album. You're like, this is a
song I didn't really like. Yeah. You know, it
did them a world of good. I mean, they needed
that big hit. And that helped make that album
such an enormous success. It stayed on the charts
for I don't know how many years. Every time it
was in danger of dropping off the charts, Pink
Floyd's management would run out and buy enough
copies to push it back up onto the charts and
then promote it again, and then people start
buying it again. Bless you. Thank you. They're
still actually on the charts. They extended maybe
300 or something, but they're still actually
on it. Yeah. It has never stopped selling. Yeah.
That's what's amazing about it. Well, another
thing that happened is a record company didn't
back them up at first. So it was a slow burn.
Everyone didn't rush out and buy the album at
once. People started finding out individually
from friends and eventually radio play. I think
the sequence went, they put out Adam Hartmother,
which most people consider to be a disappointment,
the band members included. Yeah, I would agree.
And then they put out Metal, which had One of
These Days and a couple other songs that could
have been played on the radio. And then it was
Dark Side of the Moon. And the record company
wasn't really expecting a lot after Adam Heartmother
and Metal. So they weren't really all excited
and promoting it. And so the band kind of made
it start going on the hit themselves. And then
the record label took over once they realized,
oh, this is a nice hit. And then on the subsequent
album, Wish You Were Here, the song Have a Cigar.
It talks about how the record label is suddenly
on board. Oh, we didn't realize this was a big
hit. Or they said, we think it's a decent boat.
We turned into a monster. We all pulled together
as a team, taking credit for helping them. So
that whole Have a Cigar song, I Wish You Were
Here, was them flipping off the A &R dude from
the record label who came in and just took credit.
That was Pink Floyd -ish, too. Yeah. I'm sure
that was Roger Waters. Yeah. It had to be Roger
Waters. Anything surly and pissed off. That was
Roger. Man, I've got to bring a hair tie next
time. What about Van Morrison in Brown Eyed Girl?
Oh, yes. Definitely. Oh, my God. Pretty much
anything on Astral Weeks is better than Brown
Eyed Girl. How that got to be a hit, I have no
idea. It was good pop fun on the radio. I guess
it was. Yeah. What about Cindy Lauper, Girls
Just Want to Have Fun? I would agree. I mean,
Time After Time is easily a better song, and
she had more after that. Yeah, I would agree.
And Heart, All They Want to Do is Make Love to
You? Yes. That was an enormous hit, and it was
one of those songs that was just played on the
safe for work. Radio stations. Oh, we're safe
to play all day at work because nothing's objectionable.
Yeah, yeah, that's the KUDL song. Yeah. It's
like the plain oatmeal of music. Yes. It's plain
yogurt. Yes. No fruit or, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Heart
had a million better songs than that. Oh, yeah.
It looks like crazy over you and the guitar and
that and all that. Then you listen to it. All
I want to do is make love. Yeah. Mostly synthesize.
Dog and butterfly. Gorgeous song. Acoustic guitars,
great voice, great vocal work. It's a simple
little song, but it's gorgeous. It's ten times
the song that all I want to do is... And I'm
sure if you asked Hart candidly, you'd be like,
we don't like this song at all. We love the money
it made and the fame, but yeah, it's not one
of our best. It took advantage of the 80s pop
rock scene. Yeah. And they wanted to be kind
of like it again, and it worked. They're all
over MTV and all over hip radio. Q -104 was playing
constantly. I mean, you know. There's a heart
song that used to get played the snot out of
it back when it first came out called Straight
On. Yeah. It was kind of their disco beat. Yes.
Straight On For You was the tagline. Yeah, it
was a great song, actually. I liked it. Yeah,
I did too. At the time, I kind of got tired of
it, but it just dropped away completely, and
I think it's been probably 20 years since I heard
it. I heard it, but I only heard it on Spotify.
Yeah, yeah. Because the song association it does,
you know, I'll be listening to some classic rock,
and I'll be like, there's some heart in there,
and they have to be straight on for you. And
I was like, wow, the harmonies in that song are
really good. I can understand you being tired
of it. Yeah. Because Too Much Time on My Hands
was one, too, that they played constantly. Yes,
yes. I heard it the other day on Spotify, and
I was like, you know what? I don't mind that
song like I thought I did. Yeah, yeah. There
are some songs that, after a while, I can get
into again. I don't know that I'll ever be able
to listen to Stairway to Heaven or Freebird all
the way through again. No, never. It's just too
difficult. Yeah, I agree. Because I'm old enough,
I was there when they were new. So I've been
hearing them since the very first time they were
ever played. So I've got about 10 ,000 more listens
in than everybody else. Yeah, yep. And I'm a
grumpy old man, so there. Yeah, same here. Get
that damn noise off of my lawn, boy. Do you want
to hear what happened recently with Snow White?
Yeah, hell yeah. They snuck in a re -release
of the movie, Disney did. It came out March 21st,
and it apparently disappeared pretty quickly.
And then the last week or so, they re -released
it to apparently zero fanfare and zero attention.
They put it out in 1 ,000 screens across the
U .S. And their reported earnings after the opening
weekend was a total of $250 per screen. which
means every showing every day on that screen
totaled up to 10 people watched it, or 25 people
watched it. That didn't even cover the electric
bill. Yeah, yeah. So, and the odd thing is it's
going, it's going to be released to video later
this month, which is also pretty damn fast. Who
releases a movie to video two months after it
hits the box office? Yeah, and then re -release
it to, okay, re -release is one thing. But another
thing is 2 ,000 theaters? Yeah. That's like saying,
we don't think it's going to do anything again,
so this is a soft test. Yeah, yeah. If they really
meant it, they'd unleash it to 10 ,000 theaters.
Say, yeah, we think if they miss the boat on
this, we think they'll catch it this time. No,
they were just kind of like, just put a little
bit out there and see what they do, and then
they're finally like, oh, it's going to video.
Well, people are comparing it to what Sony did
with the film called Morbius, a superhero movie
that just totally flopped. At least they waited
a while, and then they brought it out for a re
-release, knowing full well it was going to tank,
and they didn't care, but they wanted to stir
up some buzz because they had other superhero
action movies coming. So the re -release of Morbius
was just to get people talking again, and they
didn't care that they lost a bunch of money.
Was Disney maybe doing the same thing to try
to get attention before the video release? If
so, they sure didn't tell anyone they were releasing
it. I was getting ready to say they didn't really
promote it very much. I think it just kind of
happened and people realized after the fact,
oh, look, it came back for a weekend or so. And
pretty much nobody cared. Yeah, I mean, if you're
going to do that, don't you want to create a
buzz and go back by popular demand? Because most
people don't look at that. They don't know what
it sold. Yeah. It's just odd. Like I say, Nev
caught fire live, sold more. Yeah. And then I've
heard, haven't been able to confirm, that Rachel
Zegler is suing South Park for $100 million,
claiming that they ruined her career with the
way they portrayed her on South Park. Who knows
if that's true or just more internet BS. If that
is true, she's more of an idiot than I thought.
Yeah, I mean, that would be the worst possible
thing for her to do is call more attention to
it. I mean, she's already been... Well, Disney
hired somebody to go out and be the filter when
she was on the promo tour for Snow White because
they couldn't trust her anymore to say the right
things and act the right way. They also didn't
hire her to hire her own PR person. Disney sent
one that she can't fire. It said, everything
will go through this person. It's exactly what
the University of North Carolina has done to
Bill Belichick. And she didn't like being hamstrung
that way, but it shows at that point that Disney
still was trying to protect their investment.
At this point, I think they've just totally given
up. It's like, we don't care. If I was them,
I wouldn't even release it on video. I'd just
be like, that's it. They haven't learned their
lesson, apparently, because they're doing a live
-action remake of Lilo and Stitch. And they're
already getting flack because in the original
cartoon, two people from Stitch's home planet
come looking for him. Him, her, it, whatever
it is. One of these aliens dresses as a man,
and the other dresses as a woman. And the running
gag through the show was the one dressed as a
woman would choose the most outrageous and bizarre
outfits. in her attempt to fit in, or its attempt
to fit in. So for the live -action remake, they
completely dropped the cross -dressing, and now
both of them dress as a man. Wow. And that has
caused some flack of people saying, okay, Disney,
here you are backing way off on some innocent
fun. Are you this scared? Are you running this
hard? And was it all just pandering before? Because
Disney is showing we never really care. It's
just whichever way the wind's blowing. You're
going to see this company go bankrupt one of
these days. Oh, man. Yeah. It's like the South
Park take on Kathleen Kennedy, who was running
Disney Pictures. They portrayed her as standing
in her office yelling, you know, well, just redo
this movie and put a woman in it and make her
a lesbian. And that's kind of how people, I mean,
that's not exactly what they're doing, but that's
the attitude that people have. It's like, that's
the effort we think you're putting into it. You're
just half -assing it. It's just really not good
enough anymore. That parody came from somewhere,
and that parody that came from somewhere, that
somewhere is not too far off. No. So, yeah, nuts.
I just thought that was hilarious. All right,
this is the douchebag section of the music creeps.
It's only fair because we did music creeps partly
during the Sports Bastards. Yeah, so we're going
to have to throw little douchebags in there.
It's like the crossover episodes you get on TV
where the stars of this show wind up on that
show. It's like, oh, cool. You know whenever
you see Peter Griffith on The Simpsons or Homer
Simpson on Family Guy? No different here. or
Batman and Superman. Oh, yeah, yeah. All right,
well, things aren't going so well for Tesla right
now. About the Cybertruck. There's one right
there. It is. Yep, anyhow. All right, they're
sold standard with what's called the auto cruise,
auto steer package. Whatever they call that.
And optional is the full self -driving mode.
That was like six grand more. Most Cybertruck
owners do not opt for the extra six grand in
full self -driving mode. They go for just the
auto steer and the auto cruise. Now, auto cruise
is where you get on the highway, hit the cruise,
and it'll keep you at the right speed in relation
to the car ahead of you. So if the car slows
down, you slow down. If the car speeds up, you
speed up. It's what they used to call adaptive
cruise control. But you still got to steer the
thing. Yeah. Auto steer is it will keep you in
the lane you're in, provided there are lane markers.
So between the two, you get on the highway, hit
the two, you sit behind the wheel with your hands
in your lap, and you only grab the wheel if there's
something going on. Okay. Full stealth driving
mode means it takes turns, it stops at stoplights,
et cetera, et cetera. Turns out when the trucks
came out, only the auto cruise was enabled. And
the auto steer was still under development. Oh,
boy. So all these, how many years the Sabre truck's
been out? A couple already? A couple. The owner's
been waiting for the auto steer to come out.
Tesla has announced it's not coming. We've given
up. It's never coming. That's fucked up. Look
at the owner. I think that's the owner. Interesting.
Looks like... No, no. There's a guy with gray
hair that's actually the owner. Oh, okay. Like
old Corvette guy? Yes, like old Corvette guy.
Anyhow. So anyway, Tesla's made the announcement.
AutoSteer's not coming. It's never coming. We've
given up. Move on. Yes. They're not refunding
any money. See, that's bullshit. What they are
doing is offering you a free year of their full
self -driving mode. which auto renews at whatever
steep price or they have to buy it for six grand
or I don't know, whatever. So instead of getting
what they were promised, and instead of getting
a refund since they're not getting what they're
promised, they're given a taste of the more expensive
one that they didn't opt for. Class action lawsuit.
I would think. I would think because this is
the second time. There was a previous time when
Tesla said we're going to come out with an affordable,
kind of everyday car for around 20 grand, et
cetera, et cetera, and self -driving, blah, blah,
blah. And then eventually Musk said, you know
what? We can't do that. We're not going to do
it. It's a pipe dream. Forget it. But since they
hadn't sold it to anyone yet, there was no fraud
involved. But this is bait and switch. This is
definitely bait and switch. And if you do a class
action, yeah, no, okay. Lawyers are going to
get a majority of the money. But you'll sue them.
in hopes that they don't do this bullshit again.
Yeah, yeah. And I could see something like that
putting Tesla out of business because they're
really hurting right now. I'm really wondering
if he's not wanting to go out of business anyhow
because they're into so many other things. Yeah,
his robo -taxi service is what he cares about.
That's the only thing he cares about is all these
old taxis and his self -driving. He has a new
sexy thing and all the other things are just
like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's been
his entire business career. Move on to the next
one because this one's getting stale. Yes. And
he doesn't care. He's wealthy enough to where
he can do that. Yeah, everybody else wants it
paying the price. Currently, the inventory of
unsold Cybertrucks. They've already been built.
Unsold, 10 ,000 of them. And at 100 ,000 per,
that's a... billion dollars of inventory sitting
there unsold being stored every every month i'm
waiting for the sale every month you in inventory
taxes come due on that one billion dollars worth
of inventory that's gotta hurt that is really
gotta hurt oh yeah there's there's a office building
not too far from olathe with a big parking lot
and you can see probably a hundred of them sitting
there unsold they're just storing them Wow. Yeah.
I was teasing around on that level on the podcast
last night, The Douchebags. I was listening to
Spotify, and they came up with this Wells Fargo
2 % commercial, where you get 2 % back on everybody.
Okay, so it has this commercial where people
are jumping in front of other people to pay the
tab because they get 2%. Oh, yeah. I was joking
around. I was like, you know, Rob, I got a new
business template. I got a new thing here. I'm
going to sign everybody up, all my friends up,
to the ones that I go to restaurants and stuff
with, to this credit card. That way they can
get 2 % back and they'll jump in front of me
to pay the bill. Yep. Let me spend $100 to get
$2 back. Yes. Yay, I've lost $98. Yeah, they're
promoting it like this is money, man, and allegedly
and all that shit. But, you know. Well, first
they made sure that we couldn't learn math in
school anymore. Yes. And then they run all these
scams by us that require math to see through.
Yes. See how this works? You know what? I got
a hurry operation coming up. You know what 2
% of $80 ,000 is? there you go yeah 80 bucks
go put mine go put my eye on it let's see 800
that'd be 1600 bucks 1600 okay two percent is
1600 bucks you could just tell them hey that's
free money in your pocket you can just walk away
with yeah because that's the way the commercial
tells you come over and pay the bill on that
be around 80 grand yep it's like all the car
commercials they say 500 cash back in your pocket
when you buy You walk out of here with $500 in
your pocket. But you're financing for 10 years.
Yeah. Yeah. It's like the only way that works
is if I give you a fake name and address and
I just disappear with your $500 and your car.
Yeah. Or I'll be back. I'll be back to buy the
car. Scouts Honor. Yeah. Give me the cash. Ugh.
Bullshit. But Tesla sales, I mean, this isn't
just Cybertrucks. Tesla sales across the board
in Europe is being described as a death spiral.
Dealerships everywhere are offering super cheap
financing, generous terms, no money down, rebates,
just anything to get people to buy and still
no one's buying. All the deals are there. I believe
it. They still don't want it. Their sales in
China are totally drying up because China's building
their own. There's no copyright laws there. Yeah.
Their most popular model, the Model Y, they just
re -released that. Total flop. Nobody wanted
it. Now, adding all this up, a lot of business
insiders are saying, we may have reached the
entire available market for Tesla vehicles. There
may not be anyone left on the planet that wants
one or could be talked into one. I remember a
few years back, Walmart saying, we've hired everybody
that we can possibly ever hire. hired and fired
there aren't any more people who are you know
the right age or etc to work at walmart we've
run through them all i think that's what tesla's
done everybody who wants one already has one
and the people who don't have one just really
don't want one no matter how much you want to
sell it to i think that the market was that small
and it's done i think you're right yeah yeah
so we'll see where tesla goes from here They
recently did get an 18 % increase in earnings,
which put them back in the trillion dollar club.
But, eh, things go up, things go down. They just
don't have any kind of long -term, nobody sees
long -term business plan. All of their models
are at least two years old. And there's a reason
for that. He's not even thinking about it. It's
like done, it's old, it's done. It's like the
company Tesla's in the worst possible position.
He's still meddling, but he's not there to make
anything work. He stirs in just enough to screw
things up, and then he leaves again, and the
people left behind at Tesla have to fix it, make
it work, figure something out. And then he comes
running back and screws it up again, or makes
wild promises. It's kind of a disaster. Yes.
You know what, he's on SpaceX and all these other
things. So, and like you said, the robo service
and all that. And I'm not even sure if SpaceX
is that high on the list anymore. Yeah, I don't
think so. I can see in about 10 to 15 years,
if I'm still around, the Tesla brand will have
been sold and mothballed and then will be reworked.
brought back as a re like you know the new tesla
remember how they started making deloreans again
yes and they started making indian motorcycles
again somebody will just buy the brand and say
okay now we're going to do it right here's the
new era of So we may see Tesla come back under
different ownership after a period of time. Hopefully,
I think we will, and it's going to be like a
Toyota or a Nissan or something like that. Well,
Nissan, aren't they in bad financial trouble?
Nissan is looking desperately for an owner. They
thought Honda was going to help them out, but
Honda changed their mind and said, nah, we're
fine. We're going to do so much better without
you in the market. We don't need you. So, yeah,
Nissan could collapse, and then people will just
pick up the pieces. Yeah. Yep. Well, I don't
know. You got anything else? That's kind of how
I run out of stuff. Yeah, me too. All my stuff's
at home, so I'll use it next week. Yeah. Anyhow,
all right. Hey, everybody, thank you for listening.
Like I said, a lot of listeners, we appreciate
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