Here we are starting the next one. All right,
this is going to be out of sync, so it'll be
fun. Okay. We are the music. We are the music.
We are. There we go. That was a pretty good one
there. You had a little bit more tooling there
to do the special little run -offs, didn't you?
I was tapping on all sorts of stuff. Cool. So,
the music creeps, I'd like to jump into this.
Did you see the footage I did of the 80s glow
party last night on the Lido? No, I haven't seen
that yet. Look, I posted it. It was really cool.
I mean, they played a lot of the 80s stuff. I
mean, you know, from Prince to some Queen to
Cindy Locker, stuff like that. And it was really
good. We'd been at a glow stick party before,
and there was basically about 2 ,000 people out
there on the Lido deck screaming 80s music. It
was interesting because a lot of them were a
lot younger. that I know were not around during
the 80s to enjoy some of that music. And it was
interesting because it's kind of, I don't know,
it was kind of like when you started seeing people
like, not just parents, but grandparents taking
their grandkids to a KISS concert. Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I'm watching the footage. I'm looking at
the footage you posted. I'm seeing people holding
little kids, getting into it. Yeah. Yeah, wasn't
that something? I really thought that was neat.
And I think what's happening now is a lot of
the grandparents are taking the grandchildren
and going, hey, this is the stuff that I grew
up on. This is Bon Jovi. He had all this hair.
This is Guns N' Roses. They were kind of like
the outlaws. They had some hits, but they were
kind of like the guys you didn't want to beat.
They were like the looking dangerous category.
Well, that's kind of typical. I know my grandparents
tried to involve me in stuff that was important
to them when they were younger, so this is just
kind of a continuation of that. Yeah, yeah, it
was really cool. The last one, it was a COVID,
we called it the COVID cruise because it was
in 2021 when they just started opening up 30
% capacity. And it was an 80s party, but it wasn't
like this, where you had children holding their,
you know, you had people holding their children
or grandchildren and glow sticks and they're
screaming out Bon Jovi or something. And it was
a really unique atmosphere. It was pretty cool.
And then I know a lot of people that had no idea
about spandex had it on. Did you see some spandex
going on too? Yeah, yeah. You get to see all
sorts of cool little body wrinkles. Yeah. Now,
I had a pair of parachute pants, red parachute
pants that I was going to wear up there, but
I decided not to. Because we weren't sure how
long we were going to stay, but we ended up staying
for the whole thing, so I probably should have
brought him. Oh, yeah. But anyhow, I was going
to partake, but I just didn't. So, I mean, we
were there, and I was, I don't know, like 30
knuckles deep in Modelo's, and then when they
ran out of Modelo's Takates, but, you know, it
was fun. Well, we've got a concert coming to
Kansas City pretty soon. If you haven't heard,
Joe Bonamassa is coming to the Midland. No, I
didn't hear that, but I'd love to see him. Yeah,
the tickets are already on sale. I went and looked
up some of the prices. And the main floor area,
the tickets that they have left are going for
around $350 to $380 a piece. And then they have
an upper balcony all the way at the very back,
and those are going for about $170 each. When
I talked with my wife about this, about how expensive
they are, she was saying, well, gosh, why don't
they just have a bigger venue so they can sell
more tickets and they wouldn't have to be so
expensive? And that got me thinking about how
they book these tours. This is what I came up
with. So Joe Bonamassa is on tour and he says,
let's go to Kansas City. How much can we get
from Kansas City? You know, the people there,
how much are they going to spend? And they do
the analytics and they say, okay, we can get,
you know, this many thousands of dollars. And
we think the people in Kansas City will pay up
to this price for tickets. So they say, okay,
how many tickets do we need to sell at that price
to get the money we want? And are there enough
of those people in Kansas City? So they work
all those out and say, okay, here's the venue
that we book. That will give us the best opportunity
to charge this much per ticket. And then we'll
mostly sell out so it doesn't look like we have
a bunch of empty seats. And by the time we're
done, all the... Discretionary income of Kansas
City will be gone, so there's no more money to
make there, so don't add a second night. But
that's how they do it. That's how they calculate
ticket prices. How can we get the most out of
our one night there? And that's where they go
from. So it's never about charging you a fair
price or we're a smaller act, so we get this,
or a big act, we get that. It's how much can
we get, and here's how we do it. So everybody
who comes to town, they're going to be maximizing
exactly how much they can get. And they're pricing
these tickets for the people who can afford them.
Not me. Not you. Not somebody who's making minimum
wage of $15 an hour. They're pricing them for
the people who live in those giant houses and
drive really expensive cars and go on a lot of
vacations. They can afford to pay these prices.
You know, just like the NFL ticket prices, you
know, they priced out the average person, but
they don't care because they want their money
now. You know, that's why the Eagles charge thousands
of dollars for tickets when they come to town
is because there are people willing to pay that,
and if you can't afford it, they don't care about
you. So. Oh, yeah. So Joe Bonamassa has decided
to maximize profits instead of seeing more people,
and he gets to make that choice, but he's priced
me out of it, and so I'm not going to be able
to go see him. Oh, well. Uh -huh. I really don't
know that there's going to be any concert I'm
going to be able to afford. Go ahead. Okay, Val
just showed me something, and I predicted this
not too long ago. The Church of Laszlo will now
air weekdays from 6 to 10 a .m. on 98 .9 The
Rock. Warning drive. Interesting. Yes. I'll tell
you, and this is something else I predicted,
too, and I felt strongly. They're going to rebrand
The Rock to The X or The Edge. It's going to
be alternative rock. It's not going to be rock.
They're not going to go up against 101 The Fox
or have... or have an album rock or whatever.
It's going to be changed to where they don't
have the same type of listener that would be
more conducive to listening to a show like the
Church of Laszlo. Yeah, yeah. And they'll find
sponsors who aren't getting their needs met on
other stations, and they'll say, ah, come over
here and advertise. We'll play the kind of music
and attract the kind of people you're looking
for. Mm -hmm. Yeah, there's really two ways to
go. You can either jump on the bandwagon and
do what everybody else is doing and steal their
customers, or you can find out what your competition
is not doing and then do that and see how many
customers you can get. Uh -huh. Hang on. Sorry,
I'm reading a little bit more of this article
because I have a little bit more to say about
that. Okay, one of the things is the Fist of
the Rock. But it's not different enough in the
audience of 101 the Fox who's kicking their ass
routinely. I mean, they've been kicking their
ass for years now. I mean, they've been like
more than doubling their audiences, and not just
Hume, but in the key demographics that they look
at, you know, like white males 25 to 70 or something
like that. The money spenders. The Rock was in
trouble. It was. And what now? The money spenders.
They're looking at what part of their audience
of the people that are spending the money. That's
who we've got to make happy. Yes. Yeah, that's
it. Who is Ashley? She's going to join the Church
of Laszlo. Oh, okay. All right. Ashley O., I
guess, is from another market. She's going to
be joining the Church of Laszlo. Trying to freshen
it up, I guess. Interesting. So they must feel
that they still have some value there to the
Laszlo name and the Church of Laszlo brand, or
maybe they've just got a lot of money invested
in Laszlo's contract, and they're like, well,
we've got to ride this horse until his contract
expires. They may be using Laszlo's transition.
And I also noticed that there was a lawsuit going
on from Ephedra that was ongoing, and I believe
it's still ongoing, from back when they were
intercom. And her point was that after they let
her go, she said that similar ratings, although
I disagree, and I'll explain it here in a minute,
to Johnny Dare. If you look at the queue, and
she wasn't getting paid nearly as much, apparently.
If you look at the CUME, you can say that. But
do you know that any advertisement that goes
by the CUME rating, I mean everybody, like child,
old man, young woman, that's the CUME, everybody.
Maybe even your dog's sitting there. Okay, now
they specialize. Ratings are specialized because
they're not going to sell a Harley to an 18 -year
-old girl. No, no. So if, let's say... Yeah,
let's say that the point, 18 -year -old girls
are listening to it. You're not going to have
a Harley commercial on there. So that's the way
ratings work. That's the way the advertising
works. So from what I understand, if it's correct,
the CUNY was close. But the specialized ratings,
the demographics that bring money, were way off.
And that's why Johnny Deere got much more money.
You know, because he had Harley. And he had,
you know, all of these companies that are signature
with the older adult male advertising with him
for a Ventra, probably, I don't know, maybe Alka
-Seltzer. I don't know what I mean. Yeah. It's
just not the same ballpark is from what I understood.
I've got a really good parallel of that. Now,
when you're talking about legalities, see what?
I said I've got a really good parallel of that.
In the academic world for, like, universities,
et cetera, the university will pay the salary
of the faculty member, but you're expected to
bring in grants and research money, etc., that
more than covers your salary. So they expect
you to bring money into the university, and the
people who do that the most effectively are the
ones who get promoted. And that's the same way
in hospitals. You bring research grants into
the hospital, then you're going to become an
attending or chief of surgery or whatever. So
it's the same way in the radio industry. If Ephedra
can bring in a lot of people, that's one thing.
But if she brings in a lot of people who the
advertisers want to advertise to and that brings
more advertisers, that's money. And if Dare is
doing that better than her, then they're going
to reward him more. And it's not because he's
a guy. It's because he's bringing in more revenue.
Yes. And also, another thing is that, look, Johnny
Dare is very loyal. I mean, obviously, if you
don't even know the guy, you can tell he is,
right? Yeah. He didn't want any of his team to
be touched, from what I understand. A lot of
these other morning shows, they started cutting
this guy, cutting that guy, started cutting this
guy, started cutting that guy. And it was allowed
to happen because people were willing to do it
to stay on air. From what I understand, Johnny
said, Greg's staying with me. I forgot, Nicky's
staying with me. I forgot the phone guy or whatever.
All of these guys were staying with him. Otherwise,
he wasn't going to be doing the morning show.
Yeah. So if they could have, like, got rid of
some of the other overhead, he might still be
there from what I understand. Now, this is not
confirmed. I just know some people that might
know something about it. And from what I understand,
that was a big issue is they're like, we can
afford Johnny. We can't afford all his other
people. Oh, that makes sense. That makes sense.
It does. And it also makes sense, Johnny. I mean,
I think he's a pretty decent guy. And I think
that also he's the type of guy that would be
like, you know what, go ahead and let us go.
I'm not going to do this without these guys.
Yeah. You can call it loyalty to a fault, or
you can just call it loyalty that's never there
anymore. Whatever you want to call it. Yeah.
That might have been what happened. Whether you
think it's foolish or very stand -up -ish, it's
up to you. You know, that was probably something
else that went on. And also, I still think that
sooner or later you're going to get the Edge,
the X, or whatever the big fucking name is now
in the alternative industry, the alternative
rock industry, and you're going to get a harder
-edged alternative rock feel to it. And you're
going to have Laszlo and this lady from New Orleans,
the Bayou, assisting, co -hosting. Yep. Well,
you know what? We'll see. I mean, look, when
Lasso first came to town, he was really funny.
I don't like his show now. I think his show is
directional and not very funny. He sounds unenthused
to me. He sounds like he doesn't give a shit
to me. He sounds like he's past his prime, and
he just really doesn't have anything. He's just
not that excited about anything anymore to me.
Yeah, he sounds like it's just a job to him.
He had all sorts of... Probably not his demographic.
Yeah, yeah. When he came to town, he did things
completely different than he does now. He made
fun of women. He called everybody hot pants.
He used to routinely say, the best sex you ever
have is whenever the girl after she's done was
crying in the corner. Does that sound like the
guy right now that you hear? No. I guarantee
you he said it. I guarantee you he said that.
I used to listen to him in the afternoons. And
I know this. He was on the buzz when they first
started. And so whether it's by design and the
radio station's telling him to do something different
or not, the guy can be different. And he can
be much different than what he is. We'll see.
Maybe he'll go back to some of that original.
Oh, my God, did he really say that stuff? Yeah,
it makes you wonder, is he just playing it safe
now, or has he really lost touch? Has he lost
touch with what is funny? I think everything's
safe now. What did you say? I was going to say,
he also, maybe he's lost touch with what's edgy
and what's funny, because when he started, that
was working for him, what he was saying. But
now maybe the stuff he comes up with is just
cringy and awkward and weird, and they're saying,
nah, you can't say that. You've got to figure
out what people want to hear. Otherwise, just
play it safe. I think it's a little of both.
Could be. I think what first happens is, and
it happens to all these morning shows and stuff
like that, is they're on them. The company comes
in and goes, we just had third complaints. Oh,
isn't that great? No. Frito -Lays is called up
and they're concerned about because so many keeps
calling them up saying that they're going to
stand out in front of their plant and boycott
them if you keep this guy on the air. Yeah. And
that's where these little stupid little groups
came from. And they're going to go fight against
these people. And, you know, maybe whoever these
little fucking stupid ass do -gooders are, they
think they're doing good by not allowing a certain
expression. to be, you know, whether you agree
with it or not. Free speech should be, the free
speech you should protect the most is the one
you do not agree with. Yeah, really. Because
that means free speech exists. So, I think what
happens is, I think the corporation comes in
and goes, hey, hey, Laszlo, come here. Yeah.
You know, Frito -Lay had a talk with us. Yeah.
A lot of people are mad at you because of what
you said. Yeah, isn't that cool? It's getting
a lot of buzz. No, no, they're going to stand
in front of the plant and they're going to scream
and yell and try to get us kicked off of their
advertising and try to get us thrown off there.
We need to quit saying that. What, really? But
it was working. We don't care. Stop saying that.
I think it starts like that. So then they're
neutered. And then they keep cutting back. And
then pretty soon you don't have that guy's personality
anymore that made him famous. Yeah, because doing
what he was doing before feeds that. And it's
not like he can just turn it on out of nowhere.
I mean, he needs to keep that ball rolling. Because,
you know, he says those things that are edgy
and slightly inappropriate. That makes him think
of more and then of more and then of more. But
if you shut that off, then it's like, yeah, I
can't come up with that stuff just cold. Yeah.
Yeah. And this is a lot of what has happened.
And what it is is these people. That whatever
it is, you know, not as love in their life, bored,
trying to be the guy that does good, looking
in the mirror and going, you're the man, whatever
the fuck it is. You got these people. You see,
I can't really do it on the Internet. Shows like
this can exist on the Internet because nobody
gives a fuck. Yeah. You know, nobody can come
after you really on the Internet like that. What
are they going to do? We don't like your podcast.
Okay, so? We don't have any advertisers. Well,
just keep disliking it, okay? There's some people
like it, so get the fuck out of our face. They
don't really have anything to stand on anymore
to do that, which is funny, but it also sucks
because people lost their livelihood. People
can't get jobs in that type of a market anymore.
because of these idiots that run around and are
offended constantly, constantly crying over something,
looking to be offended, can't wait until someone
says something a little bit wrong so they can
be outraged with their poniness. Yeah, and when
the businesses give in to them, they give in
not because they think they're right, but they
give in as damage control. It's like, okay, you've
been enough of pain in the ass. Exactly. We'll
pay enough attention to you to make you go away.
It's not that they're right, it's that they've
been annoying enough to get paid off. And every
one of them, you know, despite how much they
claim to support their cause, as soon as they
get paid off, they're fine. They go away. Yeah,
yes, exactly. Frida Lay doesn't want a bunch
of people in front of their home office picketing.
Frida Lay hates women. Yeah. Yep. Yeah. Yeah.
Now, the problem is if people can't accept other
people having a different opinion, they have
to be outraged by it. Isn't that weird? Which
is idiotic. Yeah, it is. You're talking about
constitutional things here. You want to stop
and run everything through the morality detector?
Yeah, it all comes down to who gets to choose
for me. I get to choose for me, but why do you
get to choose for me? Why do you get to choose
what's the right religion? Why do you get to
choose what's the right thing to vote for? I
get to choose that. You can have your opinion,
but I choose for me, you choose for you. But
people who don't like that will then enlist authority
to enforce their own opinion on everybody else.
Well, I don't like it that you like something
different from me, so I'm going to make the thing
you like illegal. There. These kinds of people,
I'd like to walk up to them and go, I don't like
your face. I want you to get a facelift. But
I don't care. I'm the one that has to look at
your face. You go get fucking fixed now. They
wouldn't like that, would they? No, no. Anyhow,
yeah, this is going to be interesting, this experiment,
because since he has this new chick with him
from the bayou with all this enthusiasm and stuff,
you're not going to see a raunchy Laszlo, I don't
think. You're going to see a safe, friendly,
kinder, gentler Laszlo that's not so depressed.
I wonder if Lazlo was on there right now. I think
he's maybe there just as transition. It's like,
you know, the people they're bringing in are
probably going to replace Lazlo, but now they're
doing it as a transition. Maybe. Yeah, he'll
be replaced. Yeah, so he can probably see the
writing on the wall that he's out in a few years,
so he might as well just ride the train as long
as he can and get... get what he can. Yeah, he
doesn't care. He's going to take what he can
out of it, take the buyout and flit or whatever.
Yeah. Yeah, so I don't blame him. Meanwhile,
101 the Fox is going to hire Johnny Dare, maybe
not with all his cash, but they'll hire Johnny
Dare. He will be hired. You know, he may not
even want a job. Yeah. But if he does, they're
going to hire Johnny Dare and they're going to
continue. They're going to rock out of business.
I mean, they almost did anyhow. I mean, look
what's happening to them. Yeah. Adapt or die.
Yeah, I mean, Cumulus, Kansas City, has been
routinely the only radio conglomerate around
and one of the few in the nation that still believes
in hiring talent. Yeah, amazing. I mean, most
of them don't. They don't want it. They're like,
no, we want our jukebox. We want music mornings,
all music mornings. on 107 the fucking the big
bad whatever you know they don't like personality
driven stuff because they have to pay personality
driven stuff yeah they just get an AI to come
up with all the stuff and the AI records it the
AI writes all the promo stuff the AI records
it there's no real people involved Did I tell
you that AI wants to write a podcast for me every
fucking time I look for subjects for the douchebags?
Yeah, you mentioned that. So many people are
giving in to that, too. I see so much crap on
YouTube that it's just absolutely 100 % AI. I
can see that happening very easily. Yeah. You
know people are doing it. You know people are
like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know what? I'm kind
of tired. I'm hungover. Go ahead and write this
for me. Yeah. I couldn't believe it. I'm like,
you know, and even having like what different
people would say, like scripts. Yesterday I was
watching a video of they were playing song intros
and you had to guess the song. And they played
the intro to Satisfaction by the Stones. And
the stupid AI voice that was narrating this whole
thing said, that was the Rolling Stones and the
song is I Can't Get No. That's how smart AI was.
And you know what? The person who put the video
out didn't even check. They didn't even do a
quality control check and listen to make sure
everything was right. They just said, AI, you
handle it. I'm just going to put it out there.
It's crap. Yeah, yeah. And you know, furthermore,
they don't care either. No. Because you know
how many people even really probably notice that?
You would, because you're detail -oriented, know
a lot about music. I think it would just be like
a lot of people just wouldn't even notice. By
the time I got to that point, I had already watched
the video, so whoever put that out got their
money from me too. So it worked. That's true.
That's true. Yep. They're like, we don't care
what you think now. You already watched. Yeah,
and then you try to pay attention to them. If
you hate us, at least watch for a minute so we
can get the download. You try to pay attention
to the name of the channel or the person who
put it out. It's like, well, I won't watch anything
from them again, but they change their name the
next day and just keep pumping out the AI crap.
I mean, that's a reason. You know, that's why
I do the douchebag pledge. Oh, yeah. People might
like that, but then when we come on, they hate
us. So we get that minute out of them. It doesn't
seem to be working. No. No, actually, we're doing
much better than I ever thought we would. Don't
you think, Topher? I think we are, really. Yeah.
There's actually some pretty loyal people that
are hanging in there. It's amazing. Yeah. And
also, the emails that we generate are just phenomenal.
And the people that, I mean, you know, I mean,
for this being some, silly, kind of non -directional
really podcast. Pretty intelligent listeners.
Yeah, yeah. They come up with neat things to
ask you or say to you. Just like the other day,
someone asked me for my banana pudding recipe.
That's pretty awesome. I just told her, yeah,
I go to Price Chopper here in Kansas City. I
buy five boxes of banana pudding, use the back
of it, I mix it together, and then that's my
banana pudding recipe. And then that was when
Rob corrects me. He goes, well, I'm from the
South, and you completely fucked that up. He
goes, you know, you've got to add some wafers
to that, and bananas, and maybe some brown sugar.
And I'm like, you should ask Rob this, not me.
But to me, that's brilliant. Whenever you get
people that ask you stupid, off -the -wall stuff
like that, I think that's pretty good. Because
the humor in that, to me, is really good. To
me, that's what we're doing. When you ask something
just like that, hey, what's your banana bread
pudding recipe? A lot of people will be like,
well, I don't have one. Yeah, yeah, I got one.
Yeah. Go buy five bucks. Uh -oh, we seem to have
lost Mark. Seems like the phone hung up. Let's
see how long it takes Mark to call back. He still
hasn't called. Maybe I should call him. Maybe
he's already calling me. Let's give it a shot.
The subscriber you are trying to reach is not
available. Please leave your message after the...
Well, that's a shame. Well, let's see if he calls
back. The Wi -Fi and the connectivity on the
cruise ship apparently isn't very good. We'll
see if he can come back. Hello? Okay, there we
go. There we are. I don't know where it cut off
or whatever, but go ahead and start something.
I don't know where it cut off. Go ahead and start
talking. Well, I kept people informed that your
phone had hung up, and we waited for you to call
back, and then I tried calling you, and then
I said, let's see how long it takes for Mark
to call back. Well, I got called to me, but because
this is an Internet number, I have no idea how
to answer it. while I'm on the old phone call.
Yeah. Well, it worked out. It just told me you
were calling. Yeah, okay. So... Well, the thing
I was going to go into next... I think for another
music creep, I want to do a list of bands that
their worst songs were their biggest hits. Oh,
that's a good one. I like that idea. Yeah. I
do, too. That's going to take some thinking,
too, because there's quite a few of them. Yeah.
And we could also go into what is your best song
and, you know, and the worst song that was your
biggest hit. So we could, you know, say Guns
N' Roses, Sweet Child of Mine. Really a horrible
song. Yeah. Biggest hit. It's the one everyone
wants. What was your best song? See what? Well,
it would be. They've had a lot of really good
ones, but yeah, Sweet Child of Mine is one they
have to play at every concert because people
demand it. They probably hate doing it. Yeah,
and they all hate it, too. Yep. Well, I'm trying
to look up. Yeah, yeah. There's a new Alice Cooper
album coming out with the surviving members of
his original band. Glenn Buxton has died. So
he's got Michael Bruce on guitar, Dennis Dunaway
on bass, and Neil Smith on drums. And they have
someone else filling in on lead guitar, but no
article is mentioning her name. I can't find
it. I noticed that. Yeah, they mentioned it once
or twice. You know what I read the other day?
What's that? Kane Roberts. I don't know if that's
true, but I saw that on an internet article.
He was saying that he was in contact with him.
about playing on this interesting so maybe the
person they initially talked about being the
new lead guitarist was just on a few tracks because
they have some tracks i think two tracks where
they have recordings of glenn buxton playing
and they've they built a song around it so he
will in effect be playing with the guys again
but uh I don't know if that's true, but I read
that like yesterday about Kane Roberts, and I
can't remember what website it was on. So I'm
still going to try to find out who the Steve
guitarist is, but the first song has already
been released. It's called Black Mamba, and they
have a video out for it, and I think it's decent.
I mean, it's not earth -shattering, but I liked
it. Okay, I'll have to listen. Yeah. Hmm. Okay.
I'll have to listen to it. I've not heard it
yet. It's called Black Mamba. You get a good
look at his band members and how old they all
look. So it doesn't have the guitarist on the
image at all? No, it's just the band members.
Okay. This is interesting. How come they're doing
it like that? I don't know. I typed in... Alice
Cooper new album, Lead Guitar, and it's just
talking about Glenn Buxton. Huh. So it's really,
it's like they... You know what, I'm going to...
It's like all... If I re -Google it, I bet you
it'll come up in my memory what article that
was. Yeah. It's like all the press releases...
I'm going to have to go outside of here. The
internet's not good enough here for me to talk
to you and do that, so I'll have to do it a little
bit later. But I'll bet to the original, you
know how you re -Google something, a rigid article
will show up? I'd like to find out what that
was, because I'm not sure. You know, that could
have been two dudes music from outside of Rochester
.com. You know what I mean? All right. It does
seem weird that all the press releases have been
modified to completely eliminate anybody mentioned
except original band members. They're not mentioning
anybody at all except original band members.
It is odd. And above all, I could not figure
out why that would be. I think I'm going to have
to go to Wikipedia. Yeah, there's not even a
Wikipedia page up for that album yet. Wow. Well,
let's see. Does Kane Roberts even do anything
anymore? Yeah, I think I saw an article the other
day talking about him, and it was talking about
how he was surprised that he was able to hook
up with Alice Cooper in the first place, and
then he continued his bodybuilding, and he thought
it was kind of odd that he's the big massive
bodybuilding guy on stage with Alice Cooper.
It kind of became a gimmick there for a while.
Yeah, it's like he just kept getting bigger and
bigger and bigger. I know. He wasn't a bad guitarist
either. Honestly. Yeah, here's the article on
Cain Roberts. He found me, this 230 -pound guy
playing guitar. Alice never goes for the safe
bet. How a guitar -playing bodybuilder with no
musical experience helped Alice Cooper resurrect
his career in the shred metal 80s. See, that
article comes up when I type in Alice Cooper
being a guitarist, and that's what comes up.
It's like they're intentionally hiding. who they
originally said was going to be playing lead
guitar with him. Because normally that stuff's
super easy. I think I read it wrong. You know
what? I will refine that. I'm going to get some
clarity on that. I can't remember. Okay, the
guitar style. Is it like anything that reminds
you of anybody you've played with, or is it something
just generic? In the single that I heard, Black
Mamba, I couldn't really tell. I mean, I heard
some lead guitar, and it sounded pretty awesome,
but I really couldn't tell who it might be. Okay,
so it could be someone from his touring band.
Yeah. From What's Her Name to, oh, shit. Well,
Nita Strauss. Yeah, I can't think of the other
two. Yeah, Nita Strauss has dropped out for a
bit. Nita Strauss and Orianti is filling in.
Orianti is playing with him again? Yeah, but
I don't think she's the one doing lead guitar
on the new album. Okay. Yeah, Orianti's really,
really good, too. I like her better than Strauss.
Yeah, I do, too. The guy, I can't think of his
damn name now. With the really long hair that
plays, the male that plays Gagarin, he's actually
better than she is. Ryan Roxy and Tommy Hendrickson
are playing with him right now. Okay. I don't
know. Eventually, I mean, is he touring? Yeah,
he's currently touring, and he's adding dates,
and he's going out with Judas Priest. Oh, that's
right. Now, is he touring with the original band?
I don't know. I don't think so yet. That's what
I'd like to know. I don't think so yet. I don't
think he had yet announced any kind of tour with
the original band. Do you think they hired a
studio musician, maybe? Could be. I'm starting
to wonder that. And then the Kane and Roberts
stuff, I'll have to look it up. I would have
to say... that if Cain Roberts was actually on
the album, that it would have been everywhere,
not just that one article. Yeah. Yeah, it would
have commanded more than that. I mean, he was
pretty popular in the 80s with Alice Cooper,
and then he did his own stuff. Yeah. So I think
that would be more of a ride spread. I don't
think that's it. I don't think it's Cain Roberts.
It's got to be a studio musician or something
else. I'll find that article, though, and I saw
the one that you talked about, too, about how
he didn't think he was going to be a part of
it and all that. He kept working out. It wasn't
a big deal. I'm trying to think of any other
way we could find out. I don't know how because
it's just not the same anymore. Record companies
used to be able to tell you. They'd be like,
yeah, yeah, yeah, we got this guy on there, whatever.
It kind of reminds me of, remember on Whitesnake?
You didn't know who played on the album and who
was touring with him. Yeah. It was kind of like
that because John Sykes was, John Sykes was on
quite a few of his albums, but he never really
toured with him, at least not here in America.
Huh. By the time he got big in America with his
self -titled album, he'd already got Adrian Anderberg
and Vivian Campbell, was it? I think Adrian Anderberg
and Vivian Campbell. Yeah. Yeah. I believe so.
Yeah. Yeah. He'd already gotten those two, but
that was John Sykes on that whole album. He was
also on Slide It In and Saints and Sinners and
all that. But by the time he got big in America,
John Sykes and him already split. And then John
Sykes was on another album of his, but I think
maybe Steve Vai. And who was the other guitarist
for Whitesnake for a while? Red Beach played
for a while. Yeah, Reb beached it for a while,
too, later on. Well, all right. Well, I think
I'm going to have to cut this short because we've
got a room store coming in, and we've got some
stuff that we have to start doing because tomorrow's
the actual last day of the cruise. Oh, yeah,
and we've got lunch. Okay. Okay, Val's hungry,
too, so we've got lunch. All right. So let's
go ahead and cut this short. I'm thinking, like,
I'm off Monday and Tuesday. Next week, maybe,
too, we could maybe do a little podcasting. Okay.
Do you want me to hang on to this until you get
back, or do you want me to try to post it? No,
go ahead and post it, man. I mean, if you want
to, if you have time. Sure. Yeah, nothing's changed.
I mean, we just kind of added another douche
bag. That's all. Yeah, yeah. All righty. I'll
see if I can get this up on the Internet to fill
everybody's ear holes. Oh, yeah, yeah, there
you go. And also, hey, everybody, thank you for
listening. We really appreciate you listening
to our international edition. You guys are fantastic.
You stick with us through all this. But go fuck
yourself.