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Okay. Okay. I can hear you now. Okay. The Wi

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-Fi has not been good on this whole cruise, so

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I don't know how well this is going to work,

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but we can give it a try while it's working.

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Sure. Okay. All right. Whenever you're ready

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to go, let me know. We're ready now. And also,

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I have no information here, so go ahead and leave.

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Okay. Well, something I just brought up is you

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remember Steve Smith, the former Carolina Panthers

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wide receiver? This is not Stephen A. Smith,

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the guy on TV. This is Steve Smith, the former

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Panthers wide receiver. He's just been sued under

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the homewrecker law because apparently he's been

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having an ongoing affair with somebody else's

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wife. Not good at all. Not good at all. Let's

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see what it says here. Let's see. Let me bring

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the story up here. Okay. Alright. Smith, he's

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now 45. And he's been an analyst for the NFL.

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He's being sued by former Maryland police officer

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and U .S. Army veteran Tony Martinez for allegedly

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impeding on and breaking up a marriage's love

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and affection by having an affair with Martinez's

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wife, Nicole. She's a member of the Baltimore

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Ravens marching band. So he's been hunting for

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shorties at work. And that's not a good look.

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The guy's an Army veteran and a police officer.

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Yeah, yeah. So the guy's suing Stephen Smith

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for $100 ,000. Yeah, it's a $100 ,000 lawsuit.

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And it's kind of the homewrecker law or alienation

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of affection kind of law, is what I would also

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call it. Okay, one of those. Okay. So, yeah,

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bad look for him. And this is on top of Shannon

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Charlton, too. I have no sympathy for him at

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all. He deserves to pay whatever they have on

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him, you know, whatever they have on the victim.

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Yeah. And maybe he needs to think about how he's

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running his life after that from there on after,

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right? Yeah, yeah. I mean, it's choices they're

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making. And when you're in the public eye and

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you depend on the public goodwill for your job,

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then maybe don't go out there and screw things

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up and be a ho -bag, you know? Yeah, exactly.

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And I also think that the Carolina Panthers might

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have a little reservation about doing anything

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with them from here on out also. Yeah, yeah.

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Yeah, that's a big part of the NFL player's career

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is to maintain ties with the community and the

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team. That helps them, you know, after they retire.

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If he's burning those bridges, not a good thing.

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Yeah, I don't think I'd buy insurance from him,

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would you? No, no. In case anyone didn't know,

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I am on a cruise right now. And the Wi -Fi connection

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is horrible. We've done this before. And this

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one, the Wi -Fi's not nearly as good as the last

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one that we've done. So it's kind of spotty,

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and then the quality's not that good. Hey, you

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got your money's worth, right? That's true. And

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plus, this is like a rare international edition

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of the sports creeps, the sports bastards. Oh,

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yeah, yeah, that's right. And we keep doing music

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creeps, too. Yeah. So if it does that well, we'll

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see. I kind of have my doubts about this Wi -Fi

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because it goes out regularly. Yeah, we'll get

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what we can. We'll keep it going while we can.

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What do you think of the Chiefs draft? I'm okay

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with it. I'm not blown away. I've seen some videos

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on YouTube saying how the Chiefs have got an

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F minus minus on their draft and everyone else

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in the AFC West got an A plus. That video is

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just trying to get my attention. I don't think

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that's really true. Yeah. So I think decent on

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O -tackle. Oh, go ahead. I'm sorry. I was saying

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a lot of teams took offensive tackles before

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the Chiefs were able to get their guy. So I'm

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hoping that the one we got wasn't their, like,

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fifth or sixth pick. This is the guy they really

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wanted. Okay. From what I read on him, he's really

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good. His question is his knee. Yeah. And, I

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mean, other than that, they think he's probably

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about as good as they had in the draft. He slid

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because he has knee problems. And that's pretty

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typical for the Chiefs. They'll find somebody

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who's got lots of talent, lots of potential,

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but is dinged up, and they'll take a chance that

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they can make it back after their injury. This

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is a regular thing for the Chiefs in the last

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10, 15 years at least. Yeah. And I also look

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for them to get some backup, too, in case this

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doesn't work. Yeah, yeah. I think that they're

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thinking the offense is – oh, go ahead. Yeah,

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I was going to say offensive line was addressed.

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They got a lot of defensive players, too. Did

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you notice that? There was a lot on defense.

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Edge rusher. Yeah, and I think they need them

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because I think there are some glaring holes.

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Yeah. And people are getting older. Contracts

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are going to be expiring, so there's all sorts

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of motivations towards getting a young, young,

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different player. I've got a question. Have you

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seen any of the articles, supposedly, out with

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Jerry Snead maybe being traded back to the Chiefs?

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Because I was talking to a gentleman in the ocean,

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actually, yesterday at Kokomo Beach in Curacao,

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and he is from Tennessee. He is a Titans fan,

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and he's been hearing the same things that I've

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been hearing. about the Titans aren't anywhere

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close. They know they're not close. They're barely

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rebuilding right now. They're thinking about

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trading with Jerry and Steve back to the Chiefs

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for a draft pick. You know, I would take him

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back in the heartbeat. I would, too. I would,

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too. So he's hearing that, too, over there, and

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I've been hearing it. Have you read or heard

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that? No, no, I haven't seen anything about that.

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Maybe the Kansas City media is keeping it under

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wraps for the time being, for whatever reason.

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It could be, because they don't want any interference,

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maybe, you know, they want this to go through.

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Yeah. We'll see what happens, but I thought it

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was interesting that he heard it, and I'd also

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heard it too. So it's coming from somewhere.

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Yeah. Interesting. So that would be great if

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it happened. If not, I think they are hedging

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their bets. They're like, you know, we've got

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some cornerbacks that are younger ones that are

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doing well, but we have some other ones that

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are going to be moving on simply because of the

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way the NFL is running, which I have no problems

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with. It's much better than baseball. They're

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not going to be able to keep them. There's no

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way you could fit them underneath the cap of

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the Kansas City Chiefs legally not doing something.

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And if you get caught, then, you know, it's going

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to have to happen. They're going to have to let

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some of these guys go. And there's also some

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things to think about that we're probably not

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being made aware of yet. We've been talking about

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how the NFL wants to do an 18th game, and that

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may involve roster expansion. That may involve

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practice squad expansion. There might be expansion

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teams on the horizon. Now, the team owners would

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be told of all of this stuff long before we would.

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So they may be already making moves based on

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an 18th game and expansion that we just don't

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know about yet. We're like, why the hell are

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they doing this? Well, they know more than we

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do. about where the league is going, and they're

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making plans for where it's going. So it may

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look strange to us because we're not in the loop.

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I agree with that 100%. And, you know, they don't

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have a five -year plan. They probably have more

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like a 50 -year plan. I imagine so, yeah. You

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can't predict the technology that far in advance,

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but you can make general plans on how you want

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to grow, which markets you want to get into,

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how you want to do things. Yeah. You see they're

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coming out with the new rivalry jerseys now?

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The rivalry jerseys? You heard of those? Uh -huh.

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Yeah. Yeah, those, I like that idea a lot. Yeah,

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special jerseys you wear when you play your rivals.

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Two divisions are coming out for this coming

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year, and then they're going to release two divisions

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worth. each year until i guess for the next uh

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what four years five years until they get them

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all out um and of course there's you know the

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usual comments of this is just a cash grab by

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the nfl because they want to sell more jerseys

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and you know which which it is but Of course.

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The fans always have the choice, buy it or don't

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buy it. It's like no one's holding a gun to your

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head, no one's requiring you to buy it or they'll

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kick you out of the game or anything like that.

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So if you want it, buy it. If you don't want

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it, don't buy it. But we're going to be forced

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to see them on TV at least once a year from each

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team. It's no different than any other sales

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tactic in America going on by any other corporation.

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Yeah, see, they tried this before with the Color

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Rush jerseys, and nobody liked it. So this is

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their second attempt at doing the exact same

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thing, except now they're called Rivalry jerseys.

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And if this doesn't work, then next time they'll

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call it Hometown Pride jerseys or something.

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They'll come up with a new name, and they'll

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try it again and try it again. So it's just business

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as usual. Yeah. Oh, well. Yeah, they're just

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going to keep doing it until they hit that one

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magic sauce, and then they're going to run with

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it. Yep. Oh, oh, oh. I also like what I'm reading

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here, and not because this could sound weird,

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but I love the national press. A lot of them

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are picking the Chiefs, not even to win the Western

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Division, but not even to be second, but maybe

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third this year coming up. They're predicting

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death and destruction and internal damnation

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and terror and everything for them. And I love

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it. I say bring it on. Because you know how many

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times it's been wrong, right? Oh, yeah. Yeah,

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this is just fuel for the fire. Heck yeah. Yeah.

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The Mohawk is gone, and Mahomes' bad bod is gone.

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He's on a mission. Yeah. Yeah, I think he's taking

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it very seriously. I would not be surprised to

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see Mahomes take a much stronger leadership role

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this season. I think he's been kind of, you know,

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he's definitely been a strong leader, but he's

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also been the kind of guy of, you know, whatever

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you want to do, live your life, I'm not going

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to interfere. I think this time he's probably

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going to take the attitude of, okay, everyone

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needs to apply maximum effort because you're

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letting everyone else down. You know, everyone's

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counting on everyone. Nobody let anybody down.

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Everybody give it all you got, and let's go stomp

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somebody. I could see Mahomes taking that attitude.

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Yeah, absolutely. And I could see Andy Reid taking

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a step back. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He was definitely

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the boss. I'm sorry, go ahead. I was going to

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say Andy Reid could definitely take a step back

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from the leadership role and let Mahomes step

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into that. And then Reid can be like the kindly

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old father and that kind of stuff instead of

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the hard ass. I don't know, a lot of players

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don't really believe Andy is such a hard ass

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because he really kind of isn't. But if Mahomes

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gets in their face and says, step it up, you're

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screwing up, we need this. People would probably

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take that better from Mahomes than they would

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from Andy. I agree 100%. And also, the guy with

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three rings and has been there, what, five times

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now or six times? Yeah. Five times, right? You

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guarantee? Yeah, five times. Yeah. Yeah, he's

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been in the league seven years. He's been there

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five times. Only lost one playoff game ever in

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the AFC. Yep. I think you're going to listen

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to that guy. I think you're going to go, what

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was that? Okay, yes, I'm on it right now. And,

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you know, thanks for giving me a chance. And

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Mahomes should definitely take advantage of it.

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His volume of work, his leadership, everything,

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none of it is in question. It's for idiots that

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try to start shit up like the skip cards and

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stuff like that. So, you know, there's always

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going to be the people that are going to be taking

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a shit on him. Because that's what they do. And

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I was the same way with Brady, too. I have to

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admit it. I was always the one that was going

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to go, I think it's over. I think his time's

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over. Well, I was wrong every fucking time, wasn't

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I? Me, too. Yeah, yeah. And I think it's natural.

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I think it's natural to be the guy to point out

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that you picked out the fall of the Roman Empire.

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Yeah. You know? You love to be that guy, go,

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I told you first. Everyone else is saying that,

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too. There's nothing special in it. You want

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to be special, tell the truth. Say, hey, I think

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these guys are not going to be back once, twice,

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three. I think you're going to see them until

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that guy fucking retires. Yeah, pretty much.

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Yeah, if you want to be honest. If I wanted to

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be honest back then, I would have said that about

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Brady, but I didn't want to be honest. I wanted

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to be the guy that topped the scoop. I want to

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be the Jimmy Olsen. Yeah, if you make bold predictions

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often enough, one of them is going to come true,

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and then you're going to look like a genius,

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and they'll forget about all the ones you predicted

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that didn't come true. Yeah, everybody wanted

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to catch, you know, Jimmy Olsen was the guy.

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He was like, I'm going to get a picture of him

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when he's at home, and I'm going to bust it.

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I know who, I'm going to figure this guy out.

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Everybody wants to be Jimmy Olsen. There was

00:15:35.149 --> 00:15:37.429
only one Jimmy Olsen, and he always walked around

00:15:37.429 --> 00:15:42.269
with egg on his face. Yeah, and there's a joy

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you get from spreading interesting and good news,

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but ironically there's also a joy you get from

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spreading disaster news or bad news, being the

00:15:51.610 --> 00:15:54.129
first one to say, oh, yeah, he's out for the

00:15:54.129 --> 00:15:56.429
season, or, you know, no, they didn't sign him,

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they lost him. I mean, there's kind of a thrill

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for that too, oddly enough. Oh, no, there is.

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And then there's like all these rogue meteorologists

00:16:07.559 --> 00:16:10.259
that are running around all over the country.

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This is it. This is Armageddon. It's over. Over

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5 ,000 tornadoes in Minnesota today. Yeah, I

00:16:19.179 --> 00:16:21.639
see that YouTube channel. A boulder -sized hail.

00:16:22.039 --> 00:16:26.419
You know, I mean, the weather is fucked, yes.

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But they make it seem like there's going to be

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like state swipers. And it's a natural thing.

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You know, people go around and they make it bigger

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than what it is. They make it bolder than what

00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:41.019
it is. And they want to be behind it. They want

00:16:41.019 --> 00:16:43.940
to be the person that found it out. Like gorilla

00:16:43.940 --> 00:16:47.179
hail. Yeah. Have you heard that term? Gorilla

00:16:47.179 --> 00:16:49.980
hail? Yeah. No. It's stuff like that, you know.

00:16:50.659 --> 00:16:54.379
Gorilla hail. Yeah. And now, a lot of meteorologists

00:16:54.379 --> 00:16:56.899
on TV have picked up on it. Oh, great. And it's

00:16:56.899 --> 00:16:59.720
like, oh, okay. Well, you know, that's... That's

00:16:59.720 --> 00:17:02.039
a pretty good little tagline, gorilla hail. That's

00:17:02.039 --> 00:17:04.039
going to get everybody's neck to turning. You

00:17:04.039 --> 00:17:05.660
know, they're sitting there having their sandwich

00:17:05.660 --> 00:17:10.680
on their own. Gorilla hail? Turn that up, honey.

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I got to tell you, I got to find out what the

00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:15.640
hell this is. I want to get hit by you. Well,

00:17:16.099 --> 00:17:19.119
I've noticed that just even the phone app I have

00:17:19.119 --> 00:17:23.220
for weather has started lying to me because it's

00:17:23.220 --> 00:17:25.480
figured out that if there are storms predicted,

00:17:25.759 --> 00:17:28.859
then I check the weather a lot more often. So

00:17:28.859 --> 00:17:32.039
now my phone weather app is predicting storms

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all the time. And then as we get closer, the

00:17:35.119 --> 00:17:37.460
chances dry up and go away. It's because the

00:17:37.460 --> 00:17:39.599
storms were never coming anyway. It's just it's

00:17:39.599 --> 00:17:41.839
figured out if they tell me that, then I'll keep

00:17:41.839 --> 00:17:44.039
checking the app and I'll keep looking at their

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ads. So I've learned that my phone app, I've

00:17:47.420 --> 00:17:50.359
started comparing it to every other phone service

00:17:50.359 --> 00:17:53.079
or every other weather service. And my phone

00:17:53.079 --> 00:17:55.960
app predicts rain about three times more often

00:17:55.960 --> 00:18:01.839
than... every other app out there. So it knows

00:18:01.839 --> 00:18:04.400
what to tell me, what I want to hear to get me

00:18:04.400 --> 00:18:06.859
interested. So when I look at stuff about the

00:18:06.859 --> 00:18:10.059
NFL, I'm thinking the same thing. These are people

00:18:10.059 --> 00:18:12.559
who want my attention. Whether it's true or not,

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they just want me to click on their story. So

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I've rejected a whole bunch of just patently

00:18:17.940 --> 00:18:21.880
wrong and obviously false stories. But a few

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of them are going to slip through. Yeah. I saw

00:18:26.339 --> 00:18:29.019
the one about Shannon Sharp. Andy Reid makes

00:18:29.019 --> 00:18:32.619
a shocking... Yeah, I get those all the time.

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Andy Reid fires a player right on the sideline.

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It's like, that never happened. Quit lying to

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me. And they got a picture of Andy yelling or

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something. Kind of like that. Go ahead. I'm sorry.

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Did you hear the one about Shannon Sharp and

00:18:48.000 --> 00:18:54.890
his little domestic troubles? Yes. You know,

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I mean, I thought he was cleaner than that. I

00:18:58.549 --> 00:19:00.549
don't know why I thought that, but I guess not.

00:19:00.710 --> 00:19:05.650
I mean, I guess because he's so honest on TV.

00:19:05.950 --> 00:19:08.190
Yeah. But I thought he was an honest person.

00:19:09.130 --> 00:19:13.549
Yeah, well, there's so many men. Yeah, I've known

00:19:13.549 --> 00:19:15.890
a lot of guys in my life that seem like they're

00:19:15.890 --> 00:19:19.470
normal and in control kind of guys, but the moment

00:19:19.470 --> 00:19:23.480
their penis says, I want it, they go. It just

00:19:23.480 --> 00:19:25.819
doesn't matter. No matter what else they have

00:19:25.819 --> 00:19:28.440
to lose, if their penis says, I want it, then

00:19:28.440 --> 00:19:32.160
they do it. And I don't understand guys like

00:19:32.160 --> 00:19:37.299
that, but I know there are a lot of them. Shannon

00:19:37.299 --> 00:19:39.140
Sharp is really quick to... I think the athletes

00:19:39.140 --> 00:19:41.099
are really prone to that. Yeah, absolutely. They're

00:19:41.099 --> 00:19:43.859
used to getting their egos and other things stroked.

00:19:44.059 --> 00:19:46.900
But did you notice that Shannon was really quick

00:19:46.900 --> 00:19:48.799
to throw her under the bus and say, oh yeah,

00:19:48.880 --> 00:19:51.099
she's OnlyFans, she's a whore on the internet.

00:19:53.390 --> 00:19:56.049
So he was trying to destroy her reputation. It

00:19:56.049 --> 00:19:58.630
didn't work. No, basically it just showed that

00:19:58.630 --> 00:20:01.150
Shannon Sharp is one of those lonely guys beating

00:20:01.150 --> 00:20:03.549
off in front of his computer to an OnlyFans page.

00:20:04.650 --> 00:20:06.930
It's like, good luck for you, Shannon. Yeah.

00:20:09.450 --> 00:20:18.869
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, it goes to you.

00:20:18.970 --> 00:20:23.029
I mean, all of this TV stuff is TV stuff. And

00:20:23.029 --> 00:20:26.150
we don't know these people. You know, we think

00:20:26.150 --> 00:20:29.609
we do. They put on great acts. They smile. They

00:20:29.609 --> 00:20:31.549
tell you they love you. They tell you they're

00:20:31.549 --> 00:20:33.890
glad you're back. But at the end of the day,

00:20:34.029 --> 00:20:36.890
I mean, they don't give a shit. You know, they're

00:20:36.890 --> 00:20:41.789
there to feed themselves and nobody else. Yeah,

00:20:41.829 --> 00:20:44.509
there are way more people who are interested

00:20:44.509 --> 00:20:46.730
in Shannon Sharp because they can make money

00:20:46.730 --> 00:20:50.970
being near him than actually care about him.

00:20:53.269 --> 00:20:55.109
Now they're going to tell them they care about

00:20:55.109 --> 00:21:00.369
them. Yeah, as soon as the stink's on, they're

00:21:00.369 --> 00:21:02.430
like, there's a dozen other guys we can hook

00:21:02.430 --> 00:21:05.730
up with and suck money out of them too, so bye

00:21:05.730 --> 00:21:07.329
Shannon, we're going to go with this guy now.

00:21:10.210 --> 00:21:13.130
Yeah, and if Shannon's lucky, sometime later

00:21:13.130 --> 00:21:15.710
on, they'll get about it and come back to him

00:21:15.710 --> 00:21:19.259
when all these other people get in trouble. Yeah,

00:21:19.400 --> 00:21:22.759
what they've got to wait for is waiting for what

00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.119
Shannon Sharp did to seem normal and average

00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:28.359
and uninteresting. And then they can circle back

00:21:28.359 --> 00:21:30.440
to him and say, oh yeah, he only did this, no

00:21:30.440 --> 00:21:33.880
big deal. They've got to wait for us to get used

00:21:33.880 --> 00:21:37.880
to this higher level of filth and nasty and corruption

00:21:37.880 --> 00:21:44.319
from our athletes. It was kind of like, well,

00:21:44.359 --> 00:21:46.400
Shannon did the same thing, but that was 10 years

00:21:46.400 --> 00:21:49.220
ago, so we think he's different now. Yeah, yeah.

00:21:50.039 --> 00:21:56.220
Let's go back to him. Yeah. Well, it just goes

00:21:56.220 --> 00:21:58.420
to show you that here in America, the way we

00:21:58.420 --> 00:22:04.460
treat athletes and treat movie stars and rock

00:22:04.460 --> 00:22:08.259
stars and rap stars, the way we treat them are

00:22:08.259 --> 00:22:12.579
just ridiculous. Yeah, absolutely. Well, hero

00:22:12.579 --> 00:22:17.059
worship is a big thing, and it's just so easy

00:22:17.059 --> 00:22:22.019
now. People complain about firearms, saying it's

00:22:22.019 --> 00:22:24.160
just too easy to get one and kill people. It's

00:22:24.160 --> 00:22:26.140
like, well, that applies to a lot of other things.

00:22:26.319 --> 00:22:29.640
It's super easy to advertise and influence people

00:22:29.640 --> 00:22:34.400
and whip up the hero worship. Taylor Swift is

00:22:34.400 --> 00:22:36.859
an awesome performer and a very creative musician,

00:22:37.119 --> 00:22:39.559
but she would not be where she is today. Taylor

00:22:39.559 --> 00:22:42.440
Swift is a very creative and awesome and talented

00:22:42.440 --> 00:22:45.359
musician and a great business mind, but she would

00:22:45.359 --> 00:22:48.779
not be where she is today without the PR department

00:22:48.779 --> 00:22:52.099
whipping up a boatload of hero worship. That

00:22:52.099 --> 00:22:55.480
got her where she is today. She still would have

00:22:55.480 --> 00:22:58.640
been enormously successful without it, but with

00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:01.920
it, she's a billionaire. And they do the same

00:23:01.920 --> 00:23:05.859
thing to sports figures, politicians, just about

00:23:05.859 --> 00:23:09.880
anybody. Charismatic preachers, it's hero worship.

00:23:11.359 --> 00:23:15.880
Yeah. Charismatic preachers is another good one.

00:23:15.980 --> 00:23:24.579
They have PR departments all day long. But then

00:23:24.579 --> 00:23:26.480
there's people like us who look at the athletes

00:23:26.480 --> 00:23:34.859
as just flawed human beings like we are. Yes.

00:23:34.859 --> 00:23:37.559
Yes. But, you know, and the other thing is the

00:23:37.559 --> 00:23:41.220
lifespan when they get them. Yeah. And they go

00:23:41.220 --> 00:23:43.819
accordingly. That's the way I see it. They have

00:23:43.819 --> 00:23:45.839
a plan for every one of them. And they're like,

00:23:45.940 --> 00:23:48.359
you know, we think Taylor's going to last another

00:23:48.359 --> 00:23:51.019
10 years and then that's it. No one cares. But

00:23:51.019 --> 00:23:52.619
we have these other ones that we're grooming

00:23:52.619 --> 00:23:54.980
right now. And we're going to start going into

00:23:54.980 --> 00:23:58.359
this sound and this type of an image. Yeah, absolutely.

00:24:00.340 --> 00:24:03.819
And I think a lot of, I mean, just like the entertainment

00:24:03.819 --> 00:24:07.299
industry and the NFL and everything, you learn

00:24:07.299 --> 00:24:10.039
not to hook yourself long -term to something

00:24:10.039 --> 00:24:12.960
because the audience changes their mind, and

00:24:12.960 --> 00:24:16.400
suddenly this is not popular anymore. And sometimes

00:24:16.400 --> 00:24:19.259
it's in your best interest to change the audience's

00:24:19.259 --> 00:24:22.039
mind for them. Say, oh, don't like this anymore.

00:24:22.140 --> 00:24:26.619
We've got this new thing. So long -term things

00:24:26.619 --> 00:24:51.299
just usually don't pan out. Yes. Even in the

00:24:51.299 --> 00:24:53.819
punk era, they were still glamming up the girls

00:24:53.819 --> 00:24:55.819
and they were showing lots of boob and lots of

00:24:55.819 --> 00:24:59.920
leg and heavy eye makeup. The sex appeal has

00:24:59.920 --> 00:25:01.920
been a big part of everything. Yeah, it's just

00:25:01.920 --> 00:25:04.900
that the makeup wasn't, it wasn't like pretty

00:25:04.900 --> 00:25:08.579
makeup. It was like bizarre. Yeah. But like you

00:25:08.579 --> 00:25:10.559
said, they still sexed him up. I think they just

00:25:10.559 --> 00:25:13.279
made him kind of look like, I don't know, sexy

00:25:13.279 --> 00:25:16.779
zombies or something. Yeah. You know, I'm old

00:25:16.779 --> 00:25:20.240
enough to remember football players, excuse me,

00:25:20.240 --> 00:25:23.599
from the 60s and in through the 70s. There are

00:25:23.599 --> 00:25:26.480
a lot of really ugly guys out there. I mean,

00:25:26.500 --> 00:25:29.119
ugly guys, but they were great football players.

00:25:29.680 --> 00:25:32.519
Now it seems weird that we still have these great

00:25:32.519 --> 00:25:35.299
football players, but somehow the vast majority

00:25:35.299 --> 00:25:40.059
of them have become attractive. So I wonder,

00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.180
is it that they're just picking the attractive

00:25:42.180 --> 00:25:44.940
ones because they can market them better? Maybe

00:25:44.940 --> 00:25:48.059
there's some great running back out there who's

00:25:48.059 --> 00:25:51.420
just ugly as a pile of shit, so he's not going

00:25:51.420 --> 00:25:54.200
to get a job in the NFL because they can't market

00:25:54.200 --> 00:25:58.500
him. He's too damn ugly. That might be happening.

00:25:58.619 --> 00:26:02.240
That's a good point. I don't know. You know,

00:26:02.279 --> 00:26:05.759
because whenever you hear about, I don't know,

00:26:05.799 --> 00:26:08.640
let's say from a Tom Brady to a Mahomes to a

00:26:08.640 --> 00:26:12.859
Josh Allen, you hear Help Char first or Kelsey.

00:26:13.220 --> 00:26:16.079
You hear about how they have great looks first.

00:26:16.299 --> 00:26:18.359
And they make sure they all have their hair done.

00:26:20.400 --> 00:26:28.019
Jack Hamm with his missing teeth. Yeah. Yeah,

00:26:28.079 --> 00:26:30.779
they used to be these big, ugly ogres that were

00:26:30.779 --> 00:26:33.579
hairy and looked... That's a good point. I don't

00:26:33.579 --> 00:26:36.380
know how it happened. Somehow the NFL figured

00:26:36.380 --> 00:26:38.299
out how to come up with better -looking people

00:26:38.299 --> 00:26:42.259
to, you know, to... Oh, to bench players. Yeah.

00:26:42.440 --> 00:26:44.920
And I think a part of it is that these young

00:26:44.920 --> 00:26:48.039
men are paying more attention to their physical

00:26:48.039 --> 00:26:50.839
appearance as early as, like, middle school.

00:26:53.480 --> 00:26:56.099
So all through middle school, high school, college.

00:26:57.420 --> 00:27:02.480
Go ahead. Yeah, all along the way they've been

00:27:02.480 --> 00:27:05.359
taught to get a good image, groom your brand,

00:27:05.519 --> 00:27:08.000
become a brand, and you've got to look good and

00:27:08.000 --> 00:27:11.019
act well and be this, be seen doing this and

00:27:11.019 --> 00:27:15.440
wearing that. It's so much ingrained into growing

00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.339
up now that it used to be, well, this is who

00:27:18.339 --> 00:27:20.480
I am, take it or leave it. Now it's, what do

00:27:20.480 --> 00:27:22.359
you want me to be? I can look like that. I can

00:27:22.359 --> 00:27:29.799
be that. Ew. Yeah. Yeah. And another thing is

00:27:29.799 --> 00:27:32.400
a lot of this happened like this. Like, let's

00:27:32.400 --> 00:27:34.720
take Joe Burrow. I just mentioned him. He loves

00:27:34.720 --> 00:27:37.420
to dress, like, really to the nines, you know.

00:27:37.519 --> 00:27:41.920
He'll, like, wear a diamond suit with a big,

00:27:41.920 --> 00:27:45.599
oh, what would you call it? Not a stension hat,

00:27:45.700 --> 00:27:51.220
but a dress hat. And, oh. Oh, the fancy shoes.

00:27:52.019 --> 00:27:54.059
It's like going back in time with some of this

00:27:54.059 --> 00:27:57.019
stuff. And a big cigar. You know, he came from

00:27:57.019 --> 00:27:59.740
nothing. But the place that he came from, I mean,

00:27:59.759 --> 00:28:01.960
they had dirt floors. As a matter of fact, when

00:28:01.960 --> 00:28:04.339
he got signed, he bought everybody in his community

00:28:04.339 --> 00:28:08.299
new houses. Wow. You know, he's a good guy. But,

00:28:08.299 --> 00:28:12.079
yeah, but if you look now, look at how well he's

00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:15.039
adapted to that. Is that him or is that the NFL?

00:28:15.440 --> 00:28:18.400
Is that the NFL? I want you. And I've always

00:28:18.400 --> 00:28:21.279
wondered this. We want you to accentuate what

00:28:21.279 --> 00:28:23.839
happens when you go to the NFL when you grew

00:28:23.839 --> 00:28:26.859
up on dirt floors. You see, the NFL wants to

00:28:26.859 --> 00:28:29.539
go, well, you got your scholarship because you

00:28:29.539 --> 00:28:31.920
were going to be good in the NFL. You got your

00:28:31.920 --> 00:28:35.299
scholarship with no money because you were going

00:28:35.299 --> 00:28:39.819
to, you know, we pushed to have that, have you

00:28:39.819 --> 00:28:44.000
put in college so you can play for our organization.

00:28:45.319 --> 00:28:48.579
So now you see the guy walking around in Lamborghinis,

00:28:48.579 --> 00:28:51.339
and I'm not saying he's a bad guy. I mean, he

00:28:51.339 --> 00:28:53.480
obviously isn't because the first thing he did

00:28:53.480 --> 00:28:56.019
was he rewarded the people around him that he

00:28:56.019 --> 00:28:58.920
loved that had nothing. So that's a good person,

00:28:58.960 --> 00:29:01.160
in my opinion, that's someone that cares about

00:29:01.160 --> 00:29:04.519
people genuinely. So I wonder if the NFL went

00:29:04.519 --> 00:29:08.359
to him and said, Joe, listen, you're not going

00:29:08.359 --> 00:29:11.599
to be wearing Wrangler jeans, okay? You're not

00:29:11.599 --> 00:29:14.910
going to be wearing cheap tennis shoes. You have

00:29:14.910 --> 00:29:17.410
money now, and you're going to have to act appropriately

00:29:17.410 --> 00:29:20.569
because we invested a lot in you. Do you think

00:29:20.569 --> 00:29:23.089
there might be some of that? Yeah, I could see

00:29:23.089 --> 00:29:27.250
it on the level of the NFL and the incoming players.

00:29:27.390 --> 00:29:30.970
They tell them this is a partnership. We work

00:29:30.970 --> 00:29:33.990
together. So you do your part and we'll do our

00:29:33.990 --> 00:29:36.190
part, but you have to keep your end of the bargain

00:29:36.190 --> 00:29:40.769
by maintaining appearance, look good. be seen

00:29:40.769 --> 00:29:43.990
spending money, be seen supporting your local

00:29:43.990 --> 00:29:46.950
community. All those things that the players

00:29:46.950 --> 00:29:49.250
do for the local community, they're required

00:29:49.250 --> 00:29:51.730
to do that by their contract. The NFL contract

00:29:51.730 --> 00:29:54.849
requires that. A lot of them probably would do

00:29:54.849 --> 00:29:58.309
it anyway, but they are being required to do

00:29:58.309 --> 00:30:02.750
that. So it's a whole PR thing, and they involve

00:30:02.750 --> 00:30:05.029
the player and say, you pick your cause, make

00:30:05.029 --> 00:30:07.289
sure that we approve of it, and then we'll help

00:30:07.289 --> 00:30:11.200
you get the word out. But we need to help each

00:30:11.200 --> 00:30:14.420
other maintain this image of the NFL cares, we're

00:30:14.420 --> 00:30:17.819
all good people, look how handsome and well -groomed

00:30:17.819 --> 00:30:22.859
we are, blah, blah, blah. It's goodwill that

00:30:22.859 --> 00:30:26.599
they're banking for the next time something nasty

00:30:26.599 --> 00:30:30.119
happens, you know, like a player kills his wife

00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:31.880
and then kills himself, like what happened to

00:30:31.880 --> 00:30:38.440
the Chiefs. Remember that linebacker? Yeah, that's

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:41.460
very good. That's a really good point. And also

00:30:41.460 --> 00:30:44.440
the Javon Belcher situation is what you're referring

00:30:44.440 --> 00:30:47.519
to, right? That's right, Javon Belcher. So, I

00:30:47.519 --> 00:30:49.640
mean, shit like that's going to happen. They

00:30:49.640 --> 00:30:51.779
know crap's going to happen. They know that all

00:30:51.779 --> 00:30:54.720
sorts of shady, nasty, ugly stuff that's happening

00:30:54.720 --> 00:30:57.339
behind the scenes in the NFL could come out.

00:30:57.420 --> 00:31:00.039
So they're banking all the goodwill they can

00:31:00.039 --> 00:31:03.099
get in the meantime. It's smart. It's smart business.

00:31:03.660 --> 00:31:07.109
Uh -huh. And having your players look... Let

00:31:07.109 --> 00:31:13.509
me bring up something. Sure. The glad -handing,

00:31:13.509 --> 00:31:16.890
though, is really ridiculous because Siobhan

00:31:16.890 --> 00:31:18.670
Belcher could have been stopped that night before

00:31:18.670 --> 00:31:20.730
he killed his girlfriend. Yeah. But the Kansas

00:31:20.730 --> 00:31:22.809
City Police Department, from what I understand,

00:31:23.170 --> 00:31:26.329
just had a talk with him and let him go. Yeah,

00:31:26.329 --> 00:31:27.589
they gave him a break. They knew he was drunk.

00:31:27.630 --> 00:31:30.210
They knew he was fucked up. They knew he was

00:31:30.210 --> 00:31:32.809
on a rampage. They knew he was angry. But they

00:31:32.809 --> 00:31:35.750
let him go. And there's this huge lawsuit, I

00:31:35.750 --> 00:31:39.930
do believe, because of that. I think that that

00:31:39.930 --> 00:31:43.170
right there is one of the problems NFL does have,

00:31:43.289 --> 00:31:46.069
is the glad handling of their players because

00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:49.230
of this idol worship that people have. Yeah,

00:31:49.230 --> 00:31:51.569
they want to exploit that to a certain degree

00:31:51.569 --> 00:31:54.650
to keep their players from always being in trouble

00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:57.849
or sweep some things under the rug. But yeah,

00:31:57.910 --> 00:32:01.660
if the cops had taken Javon Belcher... into custody

00:32:01.660 --> 00:32:03.980
that night his girlfriend would still be alive

00:32:03.980 --> 00:32:06.880
probably and the chiefs would have thought oh

00:32:06.880 --> 00:32:10.099
what a pr nightmare but look at the crap they

00:32:10.099 --> 00:32:12.059
had to put up with i mean it would have been

00:32:12.059 --> 00:32:14.720
better for everybody if javon had been taken

00:32:14.720 --> 00:32:18.779
into custody that night so it's gonna bite him

00:32:18.779 --> 00:32:22.200
in the ass if they keep you know taking advantage

00:32:22.200 --> 00:32:24.640
of the hero worship you know they can't get by

00:32:24.640 --> 00:32:27.240
without it so they have to maintain a little

00:32:27.240 --> 00:32:29.240
control of it and it's gonna bite him in the

00:32:29.240 --> 00:32:31.769
ass every once in a while You'll get some stalker

00:32:31.769 --> 00:32:35.670
fan who's going to go attack a player, and you'll

00:32:35.670 --> 00:32:37.589
get some player who's going to turn out to be

00:32:37.589 --> 00:32:40.950
a serial killer like Aaron Hernandez almost was.

00:32:43.710 --> 00:32:48.130
Oh, yeah. Or the other McNair, Steve McNair,

00:32:48.150 --> 00:32:53.170
where someone killed him. Yep, yep. So, yeah,

00:32:53.230 --> 00:32:56.839
there's all sorts of things that... can upset

00:32:56.839 --> 00:33:00.660
the money stream for the NFL, so they do a lot

00:33:00.660 --> 00:33:04.259
of things they can to smooth the way, and it's

00:33:04.259 --> 00:33:05.640
like, well, we're going to have a bump in the

00:33:05.640 --> 00:33:07.660
road sometime, so let's make sure we're ready

00:33:07.660 --> 00:33:13.700
for it. But speaking of hero worship, speaking

00:33:13.700 --> 00:33:18.160
of hero worship, another good example of hero

00:33:18.160 --> 00:33:20.359
worship that really screwed things up for a lot

00:33:20.359 --> 00:33:23.619
of people is, remember action star Jan Michael

00:33:23.619 --> 00:33:30.230
Vincent? Yeah, yeah. Dude could not stop drinking

00:33:30.230 --> 00:33:33.029
for anything. I mean, dude was a hardcore alcoholic.

00:33:33.130 --> 00:33:36.009
It wrecked his career, wrecked all his relationships.

00:33:36.589 --> 00:33:42.289
And take a look at his life story on, like, Wikipedia

00:33:42.289 --> 00:33:45.589
or something. He had, like, at least four different

00:33:45.589 --> 00:33:49.089
drunk driving arrests and wrecks. And he kept

00:33:49.089 --> 00:33:53.710
getting probation, diversion, rehab. He never

00:33:53.710 --> 00:33:56.859
spent a moment in jail. Well, I think for one

00:33:56.859 --> 00:33:59.059
of Vince, he spent less than a year in jail.

00:33:59.140 --> 00:34:01.559
But he was Jan Michael Vincent, so they kept

00:34:01.559 --> 00:34:03.279
cutting him a break and cutting him a break.

00:34:03.339 --> 00:34:05.420
And he'd get drunk and wreck into somebody else.

00:34:06.839 --> 00:34:10.699
Yeah, the guy turned into a total loser. But

00:34:10.699 --> 00:34:12.280
the hero worship was still there. It's like,

00:34:12.380 --> 00:34:14.420
oh, this is Jan Michael Vincent. I sure loved

00:34:14.420 --> 00:34:17.420
his movies. We're not going to arrest him. Well,

00:34:18.079 --> 00:34:24.190
he hurt a lot of people. Yeah. That's true. God,

00:34:24.210 --> 00:34:26.809
the guy looked like shit, too. The last picture

00:34:26.809 --> 00:34:29.710
of him, he's like 74, long, stringy, greasy hair,

00:34:29.809 --> 00:34:32.809
unshaven. He's got one milky white eye because

00:34:32.809 --> 00:34:35.710
he kept wrecking his car and damaging his own

00:34:35.710 --> 00:34:43.050
body, too. The guy's an example of excesses.

00:34:47.579 --> 00:34:50.099
Yeah, he was the appropriate to point to what

00:34:50.099 --> 00:34:52.699
not to do when you get fined. Yeah, yeah. And

00:34:52.699 --> 00:34:54.699
I imagine there are some lawsuits against those

00:34:54.699 --> 00:34:57.059
police departments that didn't arrest him and

00:34:57.059 --> 00:35:02.260
get him off the road. So, eh, you take your chances.

00:35:02.340 --> 00:35:08.260
You take your chances. Well, what do you think

00:35:08.260 --> 00:35:10.880
about Shadur Sanders falling and falling and

00:35:10.880 --> 00:35:16.309
falling to Cleveland in the fifth round? Okay,

00:35:16.429 --> 00:35:19.170
number one, Cleveland, you might as well have

00:35:19.170 --> 00:35:23.070
sat this out. You might have said, no deal, I'm

00:35:23.070 --> 00:35:25.130
going out next year, I'm declaring next year.

00:35:25.329 --> 00:35:29.210
You're going to Cleveland? Okay, that is the

00:35:29.210 --> 00:35:31.329
graveyard of quarterbacks, more than Chicago.

00:35:31.730 --> 00:35:36.429
Yeah, I think so. Interestingly enough, they

00:35:36.429 --> 00:35:39.730
talked about the quarterback they drafted in

00:35:39.730 --> 00:35:42.130
this draft in addition, and then Kenny Pickett.

00:35:42.230 --> 00:35:43.929
It's like, well, I guess he makes those guys

00:35:43.929 --> 00:35:46.659
irrelevant. Nobody's mentioning Deshaun Watson.

00:35:46.739 --> 00:35:49.179
Did I miss it? Did Cleveland part ways with him?

00:35:49.199 --> 00:35:51.880
Because nobody's talking about Deshaun Watson

00:35:51.880 --> 00:35:54.000
coming back and competing for a starting job

00:35:54.000 --> 00:36:01.139
next year. Okay, I think that's what people are

00:36:01.139 --> 00:36:03.579
saying from the inside. They said as soon as

00:36:03.579 --> 00:36:06.539
he gets back, he's gone. We're done with him.

00:36:06.800 --> 00:36:08.719
Yeah, I think that's probably what's going to

00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:10.559
happen, but I never heard anything official.

00:36:13.960 --> 00:36:18.019
And I think it's a known thing that, like, has

00:36:18.019 --> 00:36:21.739
not been released yet that Cleveland cannot go

00:36:21.739 --> 00:36:25.099
on with him anymore. Their nation is bad enough.

00:36:25.780 --> 00:36:28.519
They're sick of this, everyone laughing at him.

00:36:28.619 --> 00:36:31.460
And one of the reasons is because they let Baker

00:36:31.460 --> 00:36:35.559
Mayfield go. Yeah. And then they bring in someone

00:36:35.559 --> 00:36:38.380
like Deshaun to pay ten times as much for him.

00:36:38.559 --> 00:36:42.690
Yeah. Yeah, whether they keep him or they cut

00:36:42.690 --> 00:36:44.530
him, it's going to cost them a ton of money.

00:36:44.590 --> 00:36:47.070
They might as well just get rid of him. There's

00:36:47.070 --> 00:36:51.849
no benefit to keeping him. Yes. No, he's not

00:36:51.849 --> 00:36:53.929
going to win you anything. We know this. No.

00:36:56.409 --> 00:36:59.929
He doesn't have talent left. Whatever happened

00:36:59.929 --> 00:37:01.989
to that talent, I think, with all the court cases.

00:37:03.030 --> 00:37:06.170
Yeah, yeah, the mental part of his ability has

00:37:06.170 --> 00:37:09.530
taken severe damage. physically he's still there

00:37:09.530 --> 00:37:11.829
and he can bring it back, but the mental part

00:37:11.829 --> 00:37:14.349
of his game, I don't know he'll ever recuperate

00:37:14.349 --> 00:37:17.409
that. There's just been too much damage and there's

00:37:17.409 --> 00:37:20.610
too much going on. His life has turned upside

00:37:20.610 --> 00:37:23.409
down a couple of times. I'm sure there's a lot

00:37:23.409 --> 00:37:25.530
of ways where he's blaming everyone else and

00:37:25.530 --> 00:37:28.409
some ways he's blaming himself. He's a mess and

00:37:28.409 --> 00:37:30.969
he's not going to be a quarterback, a leader,

00:37:31.090 --> 00:37:38.349
a champion. There's just no way. No. He's done.

00:37:39.309 --> 00:37:44.329
So the Shador Sanders thing is he got cocky.

00:37:44.530 --> 00:37:47.389
The NFL is tired of that. I think they're sick

00:37:47.389 --> 00:37:49.210
of that attitude. I think they put their foot

00:37:49.210 --> 00:37:52.469
down. You can call it collusion if you want.

00:37:52.590 --> 00:37:55.869
I call it self -preservation. Yeah, yeah. The

00:37:55.869 --> 00:37:58.530
NFL definitely wants to maintain control. They

00:37:58.530 --> 00:38:00.530
don't want to share any power at all with the

00:38:00.530 --> 00:38:03.670
players. So when a player comes in and says,

00:38:03.809 --> 00:38:06.210
well, I'm dictating to you. Here's how I want

00:38:06.210 --> 00:38:09.099
it to go. No, I really don't think the NFL's

00:38:09.099 --> 00:38:16.000
ever going to put up with that. No. Nope. And,

00:38:16.099 --> 00:38:19.659
you know, he got full of himself. Yeah. I saw

00:38:19.659 --> 00:38:21.860
a little bit of words of it before because I

00:38:21.860 --> 00:38:24.300
followed him a little bit here and there. And

00:38:24.300 --> 00:38:27.480
he's come out on X or Twitter or whatever and

00:38:27.480 --> 00:38:29.500
been a little cocky here and there and it made

00:38:29.500 --> 00:38:32.400
enough to where I raised my eyebrow to earmark

00:38:32.400 --> 00:38:37.360
that. And sure enough, it looks to me like, Needs

00:38:37.360 --> 00:38:39.659
a humbling. Yeah. And hopefully this has done

00:38:39.659 --> 00:38:42.320
it. Hopefully he can move on and go, all right,

00:38:42.380 --> 00:38:46.699
I'm a fifth -rounder. So be it. I'm going to

00:38:46.699 --> 00:38:49.119
have to prove myself, but I'm in the NFL. Yeah.

00:38:49.739 --> 00:38:51.780
And, you know, this doesn't necessarily have

00:38:51.780 --> 00:38:56.260
to work out poorly for Sanders because he has

00:38:56.260 --> 00:38:59.420
got absolutely every opportunity to become the

00:38:59.420 --> 00:39:01.760
starting quarterback at the start of next season.

00:39:01.860 --> 00:39:04.059
You know, there's... there's every possibility

00:39:04.059 --> 00:39:06.239
he's going to beat out everybody and be the starting

00:39:06.239 --> 00:39:09.860
quarterback. And then he can have some good years

00:39:09.860 --> 00:39:12.780
there, develop his talent, and by the time his

00:39:12.780 --> 00:39:16.000
rookie contract is over, he hits the free agency

00:39:16.000 --> 00:39:18.159
mark and says, all right, now I want the big

00:39:18.159 --> 00:39:20.260
payday, now I'm going to pick what team I go

00:39:20.260 --> 00:39:23.480
to. But play your rookie contract in Cleveland

00:39:23.480 --> 00:39:26.260
and show the rest of the league what you're capable

00:39:26.260 --> 00:39:30.039
of, and your second contract is always the big

00:39:30.039 --> 00:39:33.769
money contract anyway. This could work out fine

00:39:33.769 --> 00:39:38.309
for him. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, but it's all up to

00:39:38.309 --> 00:39:42.269
him. Yeah, yeah. It's all up to him. Yeah, let's

00:39:42.269 --> 00:39:49.050
hope Dion is giving him good advice too. He needs

00:39:49.050 --> 00:39:55.150
some good advice from a dad. What did you say?

00:39:55.309 --> 00:39:58.590
I said cut him in and out. He needs to get some

00:39:58.590 --> 00:40:01.190
good advice from Dion on how to handle himself

00:40:01.190 --> 00:40:08.110
and what to do. Yes, he needs to listen to him.

00:40:08.170 --> 00:40:09.989
I'm sure he's got a lot of advice from his dad.

00:40:11.429 --> 00:40:13.650
They look like they have a good relationship.

00:40:13.929 --> 00:40:18.550
They look like they have a good relationship.

00:40:21.909 --> 00:40:25.320
They do. They do. He's just being a stupid kid.

00:40:25.460 --> 00:40:34.840
Let's face it. We've all done that. Yes. Yeah,

00:40:37.219 --> 00:40:41.559
I'm trying to keep up with it, man. Like I said,

00:40:41.679 --> 00:40:44.039
the internet here, if you can hear the internet,

00:40:44.099 --> 00:40:46.599
it's horrible. And I'm only catching certain

00:40:46.599 --> 00:40:49.380
parts, so forgive me. I'm probably sounding weird.

00:40:50.000 --> 00:40:53.880
You're coming through pretty well here. At least

00:40:53.880 --> 00:40:59.739
your voice is coming through pretty well on my

00:40:59.739 --> 00:41:06.500
end. Okay, good. I understood that. I've got

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:10.039
a question. What do you think would have happened

00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:13.760
if Cleveland got him in the first round? Do you

00:41:13.760 --> 00:41:15.539
think that he would have protested and raised

00:41:15.539 --> 00:41:18.619
hell and tried to go somewhere else? I think

00:41:18.619 --> 00:41:22.119
so, yeah. I'm not sure exactly where he thought

00:41:22.119 --> 00:41:26.500
he wanted to go. He didn't seem interested in

00:41:26.500 --> 00:41:29.719
the Giants. I remember him mentioning, or Dion

00:41:29.719 --> 00:41:31.960
mentioning, he ain't going to play for the Giants,

00:41:31.960 --> 00:41:34.820
he ain't going to play for somebody else he mentioned.

00:41:36.059 --> 00:41:38.320
And apparently when he went to the interview

00:41:38.320 --> 00:41:40.599
with the Giants, he didn't even try, he didn't

00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:45.300
even attempt to learn the install package they

00:41:45.300 --> 00:41:47.780
had for him, and he just basically blew them

00:41:47.780 --> 00:41:52.760
off. But by the fifth round, I think he was like,

00:41:52.840 --> 00:41:55.820
I'm okay going wherever because I don't have

00:41:55.820 --> 00:42:00.320
to stay there, but just somebody pick me. But,

00:42:00.360 --> 00:42:02.239
yeah, if he'd gone in the first round. You know

00:42:02.239 --> 00:42:08.599
what? I mean, I love the way. Go ahead. He would

00:42:08.599 --> 00:42:11.500
have raised hell, and he would have demanded

00:42:11.500 --> 00:42:14.539
to go to another team. He wouldn't have taken

00:42:14.539 --> 00:42:17.519
them. I was getting at what he said about. And

00:42:17.519 --> 00:42:19.820
the other point you already crossed over into,

00:42:19.960 --> 00:42:23.840
too. His dad said he wasn't interested in going

00:42:23.840 --> 00:42:26.980
there, which I could also send a little bit of

00:42:26.980 --> 00:42:30.539
shade to Dion. He should know better. Yeah. Well,

00:42:30.579 --> 00:42:34.019
Dion was his agent, and I think that kind of

00:42:34.019 --> 00:42:36.639
hurt Dion a little bit because the team started

00:42:36.639 --> 00:42:39.360
treating Dion not like their friend and their

00:42:39.360 --> 00:42:42.400
colleague and the guy they'd known. They started

00:42:42.400 --> 00:42:44.619
treating him like an agent, and they started

00:42:44.619 --> 00:42:47.809
not telling him things. yeah, your son is not

00:42:47.809 --> 00:42:50.110
going to get drafted in the first round, not

00:42:50.110 --> 00:42:51.710
in the second round, and probably not in the

00:42:51.710 --> 00:42:54.010
third round. But they didn't tell Deion that

00:42:54.010 --> 00:42:56.449
because they were treating him like an agent.

00:42:59.510 --> 00:43:01.730
You're right. That's exactly what I was getting

00:43:01.730 --> 00:43:05.289
at, is he done it to himself and Shador. Shador

00:43:05.289 --> 00:43:08.789
is the biggest part of this. But Deion had a

00:43:08.789 --> 00:43:11.849
clear -cut part of this, and part of that was

00:43:11.849 --> 00:43:14.829
that. When he started acting aging, he was no

00:43:14.829 --> 00:43:18.000
longer. buddies with all these people, all these

00:43:18.000 --> 00:43:22.099
NFL people. Then he was a business partner, and

00:43:22.099 --> 00:43:23.980
they're not necessarily going to tell him anything

00:43:23.980 --> 00:43:26.380
that he really needs to know. Yeah, yeah, he

00:43:26.380 --> 00:43:28.179
probably didn't count on that happening, but

00:43:28.179 --> 00:43:33.280
it sure did. You know, Deion could learn a little

00:43:33.280 --> 00:43:35.980
bit about this too. He could be like, you know,

00:43:36.099 --> 00:43:40.840
maybe I just need to stay like a coach and maybe

00:43:40.840 --> 00:43:45.090
an analyst and leave their stuff alone. Yeah,

00:43:45.170 --> 00:43:48.809
a lot of the football players have a big ego,

00:43:48.929 --> 00:43:51.610
and they need a big ego to do the work they do.

00:43:51.889 --> 00:43:54.750
But then it carries over into, oh, I'm so great,

00:43:54.809 --> 00:43:57.309
I can do anything. Look, I can do that, so I

00:43:57.309 --> 00:43:59.849
can do this too. Now I can do your job, and now

00:43:59.849 --> 00:44:03.690
I can do that job. No. At a certain point, you're

00:44:03.690 --> 00:44:07.650
just not really effective. And an agent is, by

00:44:07.650 --> 00:44:11.639
definition, an adversary for the team. So they're

00:44:11.639 --> 00:44:14.099
going to treat him like an adversary. And they

00:44:14.099 --> 00:44:17.320
probably won't ever fully confide in Dion again

00:44:17.320 --> 00:44:19.699
because he's probably going to be his son's agent

00:44:19.699 --> 00:44:24.659
again next year or the next contract. So Dion,

00:44:24.760 --> 00:44:26.900
I think, has burned some bridges by becoming

00:44:26.900 --> 00:44:37.340
an agent. Yeah. I'm still here. I think Deion

00:44:37.340 --> 00:44:39.940
has burned some bridges with a lot of teams and

00:44:39.940 --> 00:44:42.679
a lot of general managers by becoming an agent,

00:44:42.739 --> 00:44:45.159
and from now on they're going to consider him

00:44:45.159 --> 00:44:57.800
agent first and their buddy Deion second. Deion

00:44:57.800 --> 00:45:02.179
always has had an ego. I like the guy a lot.

00:45:02.719 --> 00:45:06.719
But he did name himself Prime Time. And he did

00:45:06.719 --> 00:45:12.460
go around and promote himself constantly. So

00:45:12.460 --> 00:45:16.920
some of that came into play on his son. Yeah.

00:45:16.980 --> 00:45:19.260
And I'm sure that some of that was a good one.

00:45:19.340 --> 00:45:23.360
You know, we know this shit, Nick. We've seen

00:45:23.360 --> 00:45:26.940
it before. And, you know, we're not going to

00:45:26.940 --> 00:45:31.389
let this fly, you know. I think his son is really

00:45:31.389 --> 00:45:36.389
that right now because part of it is Deion and

00:45:36.389 --> 00:45:40.650
part of it is his own head. So I think I could

00:45:40.650 --> 00:45:43.610
see both of them, and I could also see Cleveland

00:45:43.610 --> 00:45:46.690
being the only team that took a chance on him

00:45:46.690 --> 00:45:52.389
too. Yeah, it's hard telling what other team

00:45:52.389 --> 00:45:54.289
would have really wanted him besides Cleveland.

00:45:57.509 --> 00:46:00.409
Yeah, I mean, when the Giants are like, no, that's

00:46:00.409 --> 00:46:02.750
okay, even though you didn't want us, and here

00:46:02.750 --> 00:46:05.789
we are in the fifth round, that's okay. We still

00:46:05.789 --> 00:46:10.050
don't want you. When they do that, you've really

00:46:10.050 --> 00:46:14.829
pissed some people off. Yep. And I'm sure Shador

00:46:14.829 --> 00:46:17.429
was watching other quarterbacks being taken ahead

00:46:17.429 --> 00:46:22.050
of him. That's got to hurt. Oh, I'm sure, yeah.

00:46:27.050 --> 00:46:33.130
What do we think about Aaron Rodgers? I'm sorry,

00:46:33.369 --> 00:46:36.170
what? What do we think about Aaron Rodgers and

00:46:36.170 --> 00:46:38.750
still dangling out there in Pittsburgh thinking,

00:46:38.849 --> 00:46:41.250
well, maybe we'll take you, and then Aaron Rodgers

00:46:41.250 --> 00:46:42.969
saying, well, if I'm going to play anywhere,

00:46:43.090 --> 00:46:45.730
it's going to be Pittsburgh. I mean, why don't

00:46:45.730 --> 00:46:47.670
they just go ahead and do something? Why do they

00:46:47.670 --> 00:46:54.530
keep dragging this on? He doesn't want to go

00:46:54.530 --> 00:46:58.059
work out. He doesn't want to go to the mini camps

00:46:58.059 --> 00:47:00.860
and the mandatory camps, so they're going to

00:47:00.860 --> 00:47:03.500
act like it's a last -minute, just all -sudden

00:47:03.500 --> 00:47:06.420
epiphany that they had cited they better hire

00:47:06.420 --> 00:47:09.099
him. Yeah, that'll sound better than saying,

00:47:09.139 --> 00:47:11.539
well, we've signed him, but we're excusing him

00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:14.119
from all the workouts and mini camps. Yeah, that's

00:47:14.119 --> 00:47:16.099
a better look to say, well, he hasn't signed

00:47:16.099 --> 00:47:22.289
yet. Yeah, he had a bad enough rap in Green Bay

00:47:22.289 --> 00:47:25.309
about not showing up for any minicamps. He doesn't

00:47:25.309 --> 00:47:27.289
need that anymore. People don't like him at all

00:47:27.289 --> 00:47:30.190
anymore. So he's going to just act like it's

00:47:30.190 --> 00:47:32.730
a last minute signing. Although they have the

00:47:32.730 --> 00:47:34.309
agreement already done and it's sitting on the

00:47:34.309 --> 00:47:37.289
table. I'm sure. After all the minicamps are

00:47:37.289 --> 00:47:40.210
over, he's going to go, well, they talked me

00:47:40.210 --> 00:47:42.909
into it, so here I am. Hey, I've been working

00:47:42.909 --> 00:47:44.789
out at home. I'm in great shape. Don't worry

00:47:44.789 --> 00:47:49.860
about it. Yeah. It'll let you know exactly how

00:47:49.860 --> 00:47:51.780
much of this is just spin that we're getting.

00:47:52.260 --> 00:47:58.300
It's not a news story. It's just spin. It's just

00:47:58.300 --> 00:48:01.659
spin, yeah. And it's Aaron Rodgers trying to

00:48:01.659 --> 00:48:05.300
fool people, and that's all it is. We know he's

00:48:05.300 --> 00:48:08.519
going to go to Pittsburgh. They've already talked

00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:11.320
and everything. It's just he told them that part

00:48:11.320 --> 00:48:12.960
of the agreement is I don't go to any of these

00:48:12.960 --> 00:48:16.239
minicamps. The other part is you're not going

00:48:16.239 --> 00:48:24.179
to tell the world. Yeah. Yeah, so there you go.

00:48:24.500 --> 00:48:28.780
It's a long and short of right there. Yeah. Well,

00:48:28.840 --> 00:48:30.820
there's another fun thing that happened in the

00:48:30.820 --> 00:48:35.820
NFL recently. The son of the Atlanta Falcons,

00:48:35.900 --> 00:48:41.159
what, D coordinator, called up Shadur Sanders,

00:48:41.440 --> 00:48:44.360
and Frank called him and said that the Saints

00:48:44.360 --> 00:48:47.059
were about to pick him. He said, I'm a member

00:48:47.059 --> 00:48:50.260
of the Saints, and we're about to pick you. Oops.

00:48:53.800 --> 00:48:58.539
So that cost the Falcons organization about a

00:48:58.539 --> 00:49:00.739
quarter million, and it cost the coach, whose

00:49:00.739 --> 00:49:10.820
son made the call, $100 ,000. Oh, my gosh. I

00:49:10.820 --> 00:49:13.300
didn't hear about that. I've been on a boat.

00:49:13.440 --> 00:49:17.239
Oh, my gosh. That's funny. It was, let's see,

00:49:17.480 --> 00:49:22.400
Jeff Ulbrich is the defensive coordinator, and

00:49:22.400 --> 00:49:24.960
it was his son that called up Shadur Sanders,

00:49:25.219 --> 00:49:27.659
represented himself as a member of the Saints,

00:49:27.739 --> 00:49:31.639
and said, we're going to draft you next. This

00:49:31.639 --> 00:49:34.039
is a 21 -year -old guy. He should know better.

00:49:37.360 --> 00:49:40.760
What he did is he saw Shadur Sanders' phone number

00:49:40.760 --> 00:49:43.699
on his dad's phone, so he copied it down, and

00:49:43.699 --> 00:49:52.579
he and a friend made the prank call. So that's

00:49:52.579 --> 00:49:56.139
part of the reason that dad got the fine. Go

00:49:56.139 --> 00:49:58.179
ahead, I'm sorry. I said part of the reason that

00:49:58.179 --> 00:50:01.599
dad got the fine was because he leaked, he allowed

00:50:01.599 --> 00:50:03.800
the phone number to get into his son's hand,

00:50:03.900 --> 00:50:06.820
so that's why he had to pay the $100 ,000. But

00:50:06.820 --> 00:50:09.019
then the organization itself had to pay a quarter

00:50:09.019 --> 00:50:19.539
million dollars. I'm telling the funniest stories

00:50:19.539 --> 00:50:22.019
I've heard in a while. Yeah, I thought that was

00:50:22.019 --> 00:50:24.119
awesome. They said Deion Sanders was actually

00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:28.159
pretty nice about it. They said Deion Sanders

00:50:28.159 --> 00:50:31.070
was actually pretty nice about it. He accepted

00:50:31.070 --> 00:50:33.949
the guy's apology and isn't yelling and screaming,

00:50:33.969 --> 00:50:40.170
but it was still a pretty mean thing to do. It

00:50:40.170 --> 00:50:44.670
was mean, but what's Sandor supposed to do? You

00:50:44.670 --> 00:50:47.530
know, if he gets mad, he's going to look worse.

00:50:47.590 --> 00:50:50.429
He's going to be like, okay, that's fine. I understand.

00:50:50.670 --> 00:50:53.130
The kid was having fun. He goes, that little

00:50:53.130 --> 00:50:55.429
bastard, I want him kicked out of that. Then

00:50:55.429 --> 00:50:59.260
all of a sudden, he gets an even worse. So he

00:50:59.260 --> 00:51:02.820
did what he needed to do and was like, oh, okay,

00:51:03.019 --> 00:51:07.340
I accept your apology. You little stinker. Get

00:51:07.340 --> 00:51:13.420
on out of here, you scamp. Oh, gosh. That made

00:51:13.420 --> 00:51:16.320
my day when I saw that one. That is mean, though.

00:51:16.579 --> 00:51:19.239
That was mean, though. Oh, my God, that was mean.

00:51:21.880 --> 00:51:29.210
Oh, man. I got to look up on this kid. That's

00:51:29.210 --> 00:51:35.849
pretty cool. Yeah. It makes those calls and quick

00:51:35.849 --> 00:51:38.409
trips look like nothing that I used to do. Yeah,

00:51:38.409 --> 00:51:43.369
really. What surprises me is how he thought he...

00:51:43.369 --> 00:51:47.690
Yeah. I'm surprised that this guy thought he

00:51:47.690 --> 00:51:50.489
was going to get away with it. You know, how

00:51:50.489 --> 00:51:52.710
did he think that this was not going to get...

00:51:52.710 --> 00:51:59.750
I know. Yeah, well, like you said, he's a 23

00:51:59.750 --> 00:52:06.550
-year -old. Yep. Well, I guess last year we had

00:52:06.550 --> 00:52:09.329
the Jets owners and their teenage sons doing

00:52:09.329 --> 00:52:14.309
shit, so... All right, I'm done, I'm sorry. Last

00:52:14.309 --> 00:52:16.789
year we had what? The Jets owner and his teenage

00:52:16.789 --> 00:52:20.610
sons, you know, his teenage sons were giving

00:52:20.610 --> 00:52:24.650
their dad advice on who to hire and who to sign.

00:52:25.440 --> 00:52:28.039
So the teenagers were kind of running the organization

00:52:28.039 --> 00:52:30.619
there, so this is kind of a continuation that

00:52:30.619 --> 00:52:33.119
these coaches and owners and people need to control

00:52:33.119 --> 00:52:41.079
their kids. Yes. Yes. Yeah, classic. Another

00:52:41.079 --> 00:52:51.019
classic example. Wow. Yeah, I personally love

00:52:51.019 --> 00:52:55.940
the prank. But it cost them a lot of money. It

00:52:55.940 --> 00:53:02.139
cost them a lot of money. And it was mean. It

00:53:02.139 --> 00:53:05.519
was mean. Did Shador say anything about it at

00:53:05.519 --> 00:53:08.420
all or not? I don't think he made a comment.

00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:11.239
It was just Deion Sanders himself stepped up

00:53:11.239 --> 00:53:15.139
and said, all right, yeah, okay, we get it. We've

00:53:15.139 --> 00:53:17.119
accepted their apology and let's just all move

00:53:17.119 --> 00:53:20.179
on. I think Shadur probably was pissed as hell

00:53:20.179 --> 00:53:22.579
and his dad said, no, you're not talking. I'm

00:53:22.579 --> 00:53:28.079
talking. Exactly. That's exactly what I was getting

00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:38.840
at. You keep your mouth shut. Wow. Okay. Yeah,

00:53:38.880 --> 00:53:44.460
I like that one a lot. Let's see. Is there any

00:53:44.460 --> 00:53:48.630
notable... Was there any quarterbacks in this

00:53:48.630 --> 00:53:52.570
that anyone had any type of a hope, you know,

00:53:52.570 --> 00:53:58.090
of a leak? Anyone that they could go in there

00:53:58.090 --> 00:54:01.289
and compete with maybe the Josh Allens and the

00:54:01.289 --> 00:54:08.309
Patrick Mahomeses and the Hurtses and that? Not

00:54:08.309 --> 00:54:12.489
really. I think if anybody, it's going to be

00:54:12.489 --> 00:54:14.650
Cam Ward, the guy who was picked first overall.

00:54:17.449 --> 00:54:22.210
I think he's probably expected to start as a

00:54:22.210 --> 00:54:26.090
rookie. But I don't really see anybody in the

00:54:26.090 --> 00:54:29.670
draft that they were touting as an elite level

00:54:29.670 --> 00:54:37.730
with Mahomes and Allen and whoever. It seems

00:54:37.730 --> 00:54:42.329
to be kind of like a little slowdown on the elite

00:54:42.329 --> 00:54:44.550
quarterback. He had a hell of a production there

00:54:44.550 --> 00:54:49.019
for five or six years. And now it seems to have

00:54:49.019 --> 00:54:51.360
calmed down quite a bit. And I'm wondering if

00:54:51.360 --> 00:54:54.059
that is like a cycle that the colleges go through.

00:54:55.639 --> 00:54:59.579
That could be. And you also have the problem

00:54:59.579 --> 00:55:03.559
of if juniors declare for the draft, then you've

00:55:03.559 --> 00:55:06.699
got like two college classes worth of quarterbacks

00:55:06.699 --> 00:55:09.420
being taken out, and so it takes the colleges

00:55:09.420 --> 00:55:14.519
a couple, three years to recover. That's true.

00:55:16.940 --> 00:55:20.099
part of it. Yeah, and I guess also you've got

00:55:20.099 --> 00:55:22.639
periods where the NFL just really needs a lot

00:55:22.639 --> 00:55:25.659
of new young quarterbacks, so they draft the

00:55:25.659 --> 00:55:28.260
hell out of them all, and then the colleges have

00:55:28.260 --> 00:55:31.079
to go sign some more high school kids and teach

00:55:31.079 --> 00:55:39.880
them how to play. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and I

00:55:39.880 --> 00:55:42.460
think there's a lot of different factors, and

00:55:42.460 --> 00:55:46.929
it also makes you wonder if, like, or at least

00:55:46.929 --> 00:55:50.789
me, in colleges, is they don't push certain areas

00:55:50.789 --> 00:55:53.849
at certain times for different reasons. Yeah.

00:55:57.230 --> 00:55:59.389
Yeah, I mean, so, like, they might be pushing

00:55:59.389 --> 00:56:03.090
for quarterbacks for a couple of years. Then

00:56:03.090 --> 00:56:05.250
they might be going out on the linemen, wide

00:56:05.250 --> 00:56:08.690
receiver, because for a while their wide receivers

00:56:08.690 --> 00:56:12.530
was the big news. You know, you didn't necessarily

00:56:12.530 --> 00:56:15.340
hear about quarterbacks. You heard about this

00:56:15.340 --> 00:56:18.760
wide receiver. This guy is super fast, mobile,

00:56:19.119 --> 00:56:22.960
can jump up, can jump flat -footed, 10 -foot

00:56:22.960 --> 00:56:29.420
in the air, huge hands, 6 '5". Yeah, and then

00:56:29.420 --> 00:56:31.579
one year it was edge rushers they were all talking

00:56:31.579 --> 00:56:33.679
about. Now it even seems like the wide receiver

00:56:33.679 --> 00:56:36.360
ones have kind of calmed down a bit too. Yeah,

00:56:37.000 --> 00:56:39.400
yeah. Edge rusher is the real sexy one to talk

00:56:39.400 --> 00:56:42.829
about. They're always talking about, oh, he's

00:56:42.829 --> 00:56:44.849
the greatest edge rusher. He's so fast. He's

00:56:44.849 --> 00:56:47.670
so quick. He can get to the quarterback. They

00:56:47.670 --> 00:56:49.789
don't talk about running backs anymore. They

00:56:49.789 --> 00:56:53.309
hardly ever talk about defensive backs. That

00:56:53.309 --> 00:56:59.030
used to be a big hot thing. I remember when running

00:56:59.030 --> 00:57:03.929
back drafted first. Yeah. The Raiders drafted

00:57:03.929 --> 00:57:05.809
a running back in the first round this year.

00:57:05.829 --> 00:57:09.590
Yeah, I was third and fourth round. Did you see

00:57:09.590 --> 00:57:11.010
the Raiders drafted a running back? Yeah, they

00:57:11.010 --> 00:57:16.090
did. I mean, Bo Jackson. Yeah. I mean, this year

00:57:16.090 --> 00:57:18.150
the Raiders drafted a running back with their

00:57:18.150 --> 00:57:23.230
number one pick. Oh, they did? Yeah. Okay, I

00:57:23.230 --> 00:57:25.190
missed that. Like I said, I've been over here.

00:57:25.429 --> 00:57:28.989
Yeah. Who was it? I'm trying to figure that out,

00:57:29.090 --> 00:57:35.210
but seriously, running back? This is Pete Carroll

00:57:35.210 --> 00:57:41.929
doing that? Yeah. Huh. Got Geno Smith. They signed

00:57:41.929 --> 00:57:49.289
Geno Smith, and that girl wanted. All right,

00:57:49.309 --> 00:57:53.510
I'm pulling up the Vegas draft ticker. Yeah,

00:57:53.590 --> 00:58:01.170
remember the running back Ashton Gentee? Yeah.

00:58:01.449 --> 00:58:07.000
That's who they picked from Boise State. 5 '8",

00:58:07.000 --> 00:58:10.599
211 pounds. From Boise State. It was the number

00:58:10.599 --> 00:58:13.380
one, it was the first round pick, number six

00:58:13.380 --> 00:58:16.599
overall, and they picked a running back, which

00:58:16.599 --> 00:58:19.980
you just don't do anymore. But that's the Raiders.

00:58:20.639 --> 00:58:26.139
No. Yeah, but it's Pete Carroll and Tom Brady

00:58:26.139 --> 00:58:32.500
are there now. I find that an odd choice because

00:58:32.500 --> 00:58:35.179
I would have figured those two would not have

00:58:35.179 --> 00:58:41.849
been on board. Yeah, yeah. I mean, you're basically

00:58:41.849 --> 00:58:47.590
making the statement that there's nobody else.

00:58:51.050 --> 00:59:07.420
Yeah. Yeah. Back in the 60s. Yeah. Yep. Back

00:59:07.420 --> 00:59:11.059
in the 60s, the Raiders picked a punter. He was.

00:59:11.239 --> 00:59:15.000
He was bizarre. He was like a fireplug. But back

00:59:15.000 --> 00:59:18.820
in the 60s, the Raiders drafted Ray Guy, a punter,

00:59:18.900 --> 00:59:22.539
number one with their number one pick. And everyone

00:59:22.539 --> 00:59:25.360
thought they were crazy. He turned out to be

00:59:25.360 --> 00:59:27.699
a Hall of Fame punter, but they still could have

00:59:27.699 --> 00:59:29.300
gotten him in the third, fourth round, something

00:59:29.300 --> 00:59:33.059
like that. They didn't have to spend a number

00:59:33.059 --> 00:59:36.820
one pick on him. That's the thing. Yeah. No,

00:59:37.000 --> 00:59:38.900
it was like they're so paranoid that somebody

00:59:38.900 --> 00:59:41.340
knew what they were going to go for that they

00:59:41.340 --> 00:59:44.440
had to, like, go early to make sure nobody interrupted

00:59:44.440 --> 00:59:49.400
their plans. Yeah. You know, where other teams

00:59:49.400 --> 00:59:51.039
would be like, well, if he gets picked, all right,

00:59:51.059 --> 00:59:53.840
whatever, it's just a punter. Yeah. They were

00:59:53.840 --> 00:59:56.820
like, oh, no, no, no, we have got to do this.

00:59:56.880 --> 00:59:58.800
We've got to get him now. We think these other

00:59:58.800 --> 01:00:01.099
teams are on to it. They saw us watch him working

01:00:01.099 --> 01:00:05.869
out. You know, whatever that is, you know. And

01:00:05.869 --> 01:00:08.849
it seems that a lot of teams anymore are going

01:00:08.849 --> 01:00:12.309
for the player that can make a sudden and big

01:00:12.309 --> 01:00:16.250
impact in the game with one play. And running

01:00:16.250 --> 01:00:19.030
backs usually are not that guy. You know, your

01:00:19.030 --> 01:00:21.309
running back is getting five yards here, three

01:00:21.309 --> 01:00:23.750
yards there. You know, catch a pass for eight

01:00:23.750 --> 01:00:26.369
yards there. I mean, they're like steady, slow

01:00:26.369 --> 01:00:30.239
plotters. but the dynamic wide receiver who can

01:00:30.239 --> 01:00:32.840
streak down the field or the cornerback who can

01:00:32.840 --> 01:00:36.320
intercept, those are the people who you draft

01:00:36.320 --> 01:00:38.940
really early because in one play they can totally

01:00:38.940 --> 01:00:42.300
change the game. Running backs, yeah, they can

01:00:42.300 --> 01:00:45.920
do that, but it's a lot less likely. A lot less

01:00:45.920 --> 01:00:52.780
likely. I mean, I could justify the wide receiver

01:00:52.780 --> 01:00:58.559
talent. Yeah. Well, we'll see how the Raiders

01:00:58.559 --> 01:01:08.179
do this year. Cam Ward, the number one overall

01:01:08.179 --> 01:01:12.199
pick, went to Tennessee, who still has Will Levis

01:01:12.199 --> 01:01:14.840
from last year, but I don't think Will Levis

01:01:14.840 --> 01:01:18.460
is long. I think Will Levis is going to go because

01:01:18.460 --> 01:01:25.460
he's being paid too much to be a backup. So at

01:01:25.460 --> 01:01:27.800
the end of training camp, I think Will Levis

01:01:27.800 --> 01:01:32.940
is out and Cam Ward's in. At the end of training

01:01:32.940 --> 01:01:35.659
camp, Cam Ward's in, Will Levis is off the team,

01:01:35.760 --> 01:01:38.780
and somebody else is the backup slash mentor

01:01:38.780 --> 01:01:49.159
for Cam Ward. Yeah. And I think Will Levis for

01:01:49.159 --> 01:01:53.420
out is welcome. Nashville is Duke mayonnaise.

01:01:54.030 --> 01:02:01.829
And he's a Hellman's guy. You think the Chiefs

01:02:01.829 --> 01:02:04.409
would have any interest in picking up Will Levis'

01:02:04.610 --> 01:02:14.070
long -term project? Yeah. Now, Cam Ward, I would

01:02:14.070 --> 01:02:16.429
find that interesting to be on the tight end

01:02:16.429 --> 01:02:19.210
because they seasonally don't really have anybody

01:02:19.210 --> 01:02:23.920
else on the offense. Yeah. Yeah, really, who

01:02:23.920 --> 01:02:30.360
they got left? They don't have Travis Henry.

01:02:31.059 --> 01:02:33.500
No, they got rid of Hopkins. They lost some of

01:02:33.500 --> 01:02:36.559
their offensive line. Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins,

01:02:36.760 --> 01:02:42.239
we got him. Yeah, DeAndre Hopkins has gone gutted,

01:02:42.239 --> 01:02:48.739
the whole team. So he takes maybe a little higher

01:02:48.739 --> 01:02:52.619
since Levis is going to be gone. Do they hire

01:02:52.619 --> 01:02:54.500
somebody to do this for the interim while they

01:02:54.500 --> 01:02:58.280
build? And then Cam Ward sits behind them for

01:02:58.280 --> 01:03:01.119
the first year while they figure out some key

01:03:01.119 --> 01:03:03.440
pieces they need to get for this guy that's going

01:03:03.440 --> 01:03:06.719
to be the future? I don't know. Right now they've

01:03:06.719 --> 01:03:10.440
got Brandon Allen and Tim Boyle also in their

01:03:10.440 --> 01:03:13.400
quarterback room. Do you see either of them being

01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:15.900
a mentor? I don't see Will Levis being a mentor.

01:03:18.800 --> 01:03:21.239
Yeah, me too. That's the guy I'd see as a mentor.

01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:25.019
He's played and he's played reasonably well in

01:03:25.019 --> 01:03:29.400
some games. He's not like the worst at it. I

01:03:29.400 --> 01:03:31.559
think that he has some things that he could teach

01:03:31.559 --> 01:03:33.599
to a younger quarterback just out of college

01:03:33.599 --> 01:03:38.719
that could help him. Yeah. You know, the guy

01:03:38.719 --> 01:03:40.940
that I talked to from Tennessee at Kokomo Beach,

01:03:41.199 --> 01:03:44.280
he was wanting them to make a deal for Kirk Cousins.

01:03:45.130 --> 01:03:46.869
He didn't know if it was going to happen, but

01:03:46.869 --> 01:03:48.769
he said that's what everybody was kind of wanting.

01:03:49.889 --> 01:03:54.369
Because Atlanta, or not Atlanta, is it Atlanta

01:03:54.369 --> 01:03:58.650
still? Yeah, I think he's still there. I think

01:03:58.650 --> 01:04:03.550
it's Atlanta. Yeah. See, they would love to cut

01:04:03.550 --> 01:04:07.010
because they have, oh, I forgot the young quarterback

01:04:07.010 --> 01:04:12.829
they played, but then the last. Penel, Penix.

01:04:13.590 --> 01:04:19.730
Is it Penix? Yeah, yes. Penix. Now, they're high

01:04:19.730 --> 01:04:21.909
on Penix, and they want to start him instead

01:04:21.909 --> 01:04:25.349
of Cousins. And I guess Nashville's consensus

01:04:25.349 --> 01:04:29.889
is they want Kirk Cousins to come there and Ham

01:04:29.889 --> 01:04:33.010
Ward to train under him, kind of like Alex Smith

01:04:33.010 --> 01:04:36.650
did. And if you think about it, similar quarterbacks

01:04:36.650 --> 01:04:39.329
with similar attitudes. That's true. That's true.

01:04:39.349 --> 01:04:41.690
That would make more sense than what I proposed.

01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:48.460
Well, this is what they were to come up with

01:04:48.460 --> 01:04:50.820
this. They were saying this. I talked to the

01:04:50.820 --> 01:04:54.019
guy for quite a bit. He was snorkeling and showing

01:04:54.019 --> 01:04:58.059
me some rockfish that was hiding. And he saw

01:04:58.059 --> 01:05:00.800
my Kansas City hat. He was like, hey, yeah, where

01:05:00.800 --> 01:05:03.099
are you from? Tennessee. So I asked him about

01:05:03.099 --> 01:05:05.639
their draft class, and he started going into

01:05:05.639 --> 01:05:07.400
some of that. I thought that was interesting,

01:05:07.539 --> 01:05:10.579
getting their insights there in Nashville. Yeah.

01:05:14.000 --> 01:05:17.739
Huh. So, yeah, and like we were talking, the

01:05:17.739 --> 01:05:20.179
gentleman that never got his name, if you think

01:05:20.179 --> 01:05:23.099
about, like, Alex Smith and Kirk Cousins, they're

01:05:23.099 --> 01:05:28.860
both religious people without a whole lot of

01:05:28.860 --> 01:05:31.320
ego. Yeah. And they're willing to betray whoever

01:05:31.320 --> 01:05:36.539
and not be insulted by it. Yeah, yeah. It's good

01:05:36.539 --> 01:05:38.820
there's still a place for guys like that in the

01:05:38.820 --> 01:05:45.280
NFL. Oh, definitely. Definitely there is. A guy

01:05:45.280 --> 01:05:47.920
like that's so underrated, actually. There's

01:05:47.920 --> 01:05:50.699
so many quarterbacks with a lot of knowledge

01:05:50.699 --> 01:05:54.099
but maybe not the arm that would not do that.

01:05:54.320 --> 01:05:56.820
They'd be like, I'm not doing that. I'm here

01:05:56.820 --> 01:06:02.699
for me, not this guy. True. Yeah, I mean, it's

01:06:02.699 --> 01:06:04.639
kind of the way of the NFL now. It's like, you

01:06:04.639 --> 01:06:09.659
know, this is my career, not this guy. And, you

01:06:09.659 --> 01:06:13.820
know, I love this team. I love me more. We do

01:06:13.820 --> 01:06:21.130
that a lot. So, but I like that idea. I mean,

01:06:21.170 --> 01:06:23.250
I see where Nashville's coming up with that.

01:06:23.349 --> 01:06:26.010
Like he said, he said that's the word and that's

01:06:26.010 --> 01:06:28.429
what people are pushing for. Whether that happens

01:06:28.429 --> 01:06:33.449
or not, we'll see. Yeah. Well, the Chiefs get

01:06:33.449 --> 01:06:35.869
to play the Titans this year, so whatever they

01:06:35.869 --> 01:06:41.070
do, we get to experience it firsthand. Yep. Yeah,

01:06:41.190 --> 01:06:43.090
and that's the other thing we're talking about,

01:06:43.110 --> 01:06:46.340
too. He was telling me that they're getting a

01:06:46.340 --> 01:06:48.320
brand new stadium. Did you know that? Nissan

01:06:48.320 --> 01:06:53.980
Stadium's not good. I know they needed one, and

01:06:53.980 --> 01:06:58.739
I know that the Nissan car company is in really

01:06:58.739 --> 01:07:01.539
bad financial straits, so they can't really afford

01:07:01.539 --> 01:07:05.059
to sponsor a stadium anymore. Nissan is looking

01:07:05.059 --> 01:07:07.360
for somebody to buy them. Honda has already said

01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.300
no thanks. Yeah, it's probably not going to be

01:07:11.300 --> 01:07:17.260
Nissan Stadium either. No, no, he was pissed

01:07:17.260 --> 01:07:22.480
because he said the PSLs, that PSL now, I forgot

01:07:22.480 --> 01:07:26.119
the exact number, it was astronomical. And he

01:07:26.119 --> 01:07:28.420
said that it was going to triple. And he was

01:07:28.420 --> 01:07:31.420
pissed. He said, you know, he goes back to having

01:07:31.420 --> 01:07:34.159
a new stadium. They said, do I really want to

01:07:34.159 --> 01:07:36.519
pay that much for my private seat license anymore?

01:07:36.760 --> 01:07:40.309
He said, I don't know. He said, yeah. He goes,

01:07:40.489 --> 01:07:43.710
I could afford them. No big deal. Do I think

01:07:43.710 --> 01:07:46.690
it's actually worth it now? He said, I'm not

01:07:46.690 --> 01:07:49.989
sure. You raise it that much more, and I'm not

01:07:49.989 --> 01:07:55.329
really sure about that. Yep. Yep. It's like you

01:07:55.329 --> 01:07:56.909
and I could afford to... Well, I mean, the DSL

01:07:56.909 --> 01:08:00.030
is absurd anyhow. Yeah, that is. I mean, you

01:08:00.030 --> 01:08:03.610
and I could afford to spend $25 on a cup of coffee,

01:08:03.690 --> 01:08:11.579
but it's not worth $25. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah,

01:08:11.619 --> 01:08:13.380
you know, you and I both love the coffee, but

01:08:13.380 --> 01:08:16.359
we don't love it that much. Imagine if we went

01:08:16.359 --> 01:08:18.840
down to the coffee shop and first we had to buy

01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.439
a license that allowed us to buy coffee there.

01:08:24.779 --> 01:08:28.460
We'd be brewing at home. Yep. So that's what

01:08:28.460 --> 01:08:30.739
the stadium are doing. It's like, oh, first you

01:08:30.739 --> 01:08:32.659
have to buy this license and then that allows

01:08:32.659 --> 01:08:37.630
you to buy a seat. Airplanes tried to do the

01:08:37.630 --> 01:08:40.670
same thing. Airplanes tried to sell you a ticket,

01:08:40.729 --> 01:08:44.449
and then the seat was additional. But the Federal

01:08:44.449 --> 01:08:47.909
Aviation Administration said, no, it's not legal

01:08:47.909 --> 01:08:50.449
for them to fly standing up, so they have to

01:08:50.449 --> 01:08:53.569
get a seat. That has to be included. Otherwise,

01:08:53.750 --> 01:08:55.430
the airlines would have been doing that. You

01:08:55.430 --> 01:08:57.909
pay one price to get on board, pay another price

01:08:57.909 --> 01:09:02.970
to actually get a seat to sit down. Oh, yeah.

01:09:03.109 --> 01:09:10.119
The airlines are evil. Yeah. They are evil. Yeah.

01:09:12.100 --> 01:09:16.399
And the thing is, is people maybe burn up that

01:09:16.399 --> 01:09:22.119
thing so easily, too. They accept it. Yeah. Yeah.

01:09:22.119 --> 01:09:24.800
Oh, it has to happen. Well, why does it have

01:09:24.800 --> 01:09:29.460
to happen? Well, because, you know, we need someone

01:09:29.460 --> 01:09:50.300
owning those seats. Yeah, there's a lot of people

01:09:50.300 --> 01:09:52.960
that are in the complaining about it stage. And

01:09:52.960 --> 01:09:54.479
they're going to be in the complaining stage

01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:56.840
for a while before they realize, you know what,

01:09:56.939 --> 01:09:58.920
this is just too much and I don't want it anymore.

01:10:00.600 --> 01:10:03.159
It's no fun when they're in the complaining stage

01:10:03.159 --> 01:10:05.800
because you hear them gripe and moan about, well,

01:10:05.859 --> 01:10:08.279
the parking's expensive and the seats are expensive

01:10:08.279 --> 01:10:11.239
and the seats are uncomfortable and the bathroom's

01:10:11.239 --> 01:10:14.560
too crowded. It's like you're doing that on your

01:10:14.560 --> 01:10:17.539
own. You're volunteering for that. And the moment

01:10:17.539 --> 01:10:19.600
it becomes not worth it, then you're going to

01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:21.460
quit doing it. But in the meantime, I really

01:10:21.460 --> 01:10:23.100
don't want to hear about these people complaining.

01:10:24.909 --> 01:10:26.489
If you're going to pay for the ticket and do

01:10:26.489 --> 01:10:29.090
it, then go do it and shut up. If you're going

01:10:29.090 --> 01:10:35.510
to complain about it, quit doing it. Yeah, yep.

01:10:36.130 --> 01:10:38.409
Yes, and it's just like people that complain

01:10:38.409 --> 01:10:44.409
about high tax areas. Move. Yep. All right, here's

01:10:44.409 --> 01:10:46.890
a little podcast edit. Mark and I got off on

01:10:46.890 --> 01:10:49.189
a weird tangent, so I'm just going to edit that

01:10:49.189 --> 01:10:53.119
sucker right out of there. See, this is what

01:10:53.119 --> 01:10:55.180
happens when we run out of football stuff to

01:10:55.180 --> 01:11:06.159
talk about. Oh, yeah. Oh, you missed a spot over

01:11:06.159 --> 01:11:21.149
there. Hit yourself there. Oh, wow. Look at what

01:11:21.149 --> 01:11:23.529
you said on this cruise. There's this little

01:11:23.529 --> 01:11:27.130
bastard just fucking bawling his eyes out. He's

01:11:27.130 --> 01:11:30.069
got, what, 10 or something? And it's like, man,

01:11:30.449 --> 01:11:34.310
you know, you need to be recorded right now and

01:11:34.310 --> 01:11:36.710
have this shown back to you at a later time.

01:11:37.470 --> 01:11:42.270
You know, it's like, you know, you really look

01:11:42.270 --> 01:11:45.430
like a soft little idiot. Yeah, that's useful.

01:11:45.850 --> 01:11:49.380
Show it to him later. And that's the same thing,

01:11:49.479 --> 01:11:52.180
you know. Like you said, I'm going to keep hurting

01:11:52.180 --> 01:11:55.479
myself, and I'm going to show you. It's like

01:11:55.479 --> 01:11:58.340
that's exactly what is going on. It's like I'm

01:11:58.340 --> 01:12:01.340
going to keep having these idiots hurt me because

01:12:01.340 --> 01:12:03.939
I don't like what's going on right now. Yeah,

01:12:03.979 --> 01:12:08.439
pretty much you're – yeah. Yeah, that's a great

01:12:08.439 --> 01:12:16.029
example. I think that's so true. Oh, well. Oh,

01:12:16.029 --> 01:12:18.970
okay. I can try to make up some music stuff.

01:12:19.210 --> 01:12:21.029
We're about an hour and 20 minutes in on the

01:12:21.029 --> 01:12:25.890
sports. Okay. All right, yeah, yeah, go ahead,

01:12:26.050 --> 01:12:28.329
because here before too much longer, I'm going

01:12:28.329 --> 01:12:29.909
to have to get off here, so we might as well

01:12:29.909 --> 01:12:32.270
do a little combo. Do you want to take a break

01:12:32.270 --> 01:12:34.470
so you can break both of these up, or do you

01:12:34.470 --> 01:12:37.609
want to just, like, splice them wherever? Yeah,

01:12:37.609 --> 01:12:39.850
let me take a break, because I've got to go take

01:12:39.850 --> 01:12:43.869
a leak anyway. Okay, and then you're going to

01:12:43.869 --> 01:12:45.989
take them into two seconds. You're saying right?

01:12:46.149 --> 01:12:51.529
Yeah. Yes, sir. All right, well. Okay, do you

01:12:51.529 --> 01:12:54.170
want me to stay on the line, or do you want me

01:12:54.170 --> 01:12:57.149
to hang up and then call you back? You can go

01:12:57.149 --> 01:12:59.270
ahead and hang on the line, but first you have

01:12:59.270 --> 01:13:03.029
to tell everyone to go fuck themselves. Oh, yeah,

01:13:03.090 --> 01:13:05.010
yeah, yeah. Hey, everybody, thanks for listening

01:13:05.010 --> 01:13:07.829
to this special international edition. We really

01:13:07.829 --> 01:13:09.470
appreciate you. Go fuck yourself.
