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As it's well documented, the music industry is

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full of douchebags. That's why us here at Two

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Douchebags and Microphone are the perfect people

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to spin off and do a music creek show. We're

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already douchebags. Harambe used to listen to

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our original show, Two Dipshits and Cheek Radio

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Shack Realistic Tape Recorder. Harambe does not

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listen to our original show, Two Dipshits and

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Cheek Radio Shack Realistic Tape Recorder anymore.

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You might ask why Harambe never listens to our

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original show, Too Gypsious, in a cheap Radio

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Shack realistic tape recorder. Well, it's because

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Harambe is dead. Senselessly murdered because

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some idiot did not watch her child properly while

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looking on her phone. Sadly, Harambe does not

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listen to our original show, Too Gypsious, in

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the cheap Radio Shack realistic tape recorder,

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or any other show. Anymore. Sorry, Harambe. Music

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creeps. Yep. We are the music creeps. We are

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the music creeps. Wait, there we go. I kept it

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together pretty well that time. Yeah, you did

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pretty good. You made me go off script and crack

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up. And then everyone's like, okay, time to stop.

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All right, what do you got? Well, let's see some

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little things here. Something that's happened

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recently at Coachella. Green Day. caused a little

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minor controversy when they started modifying

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the lyrics of some of their songs to be maybe

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not fully anti -Trump, but they changed the words

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to American Idiot, where he would usually say,

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I'm not part of the redneck agenda. He said,

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I'm not part of the MAGA agenda. Yes. Which was

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a little thing, but people pounced on it. Look,

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anyone can have their opinion. I don't give a

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shit. This goes both ways. Who cares about someone's

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opinion? They have a right to it. Why try to

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cancel them just because they have a different

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opinion? I'm sick of it. They get to have their

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opinion, yeah. Look, you may think it's as wrong

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as anything, or you might think it's as right

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as anything, but it's not our... We can't rule

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the world and tell people how to think. Yeah,

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yeah. Now, I could see the Coachella organizers

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saying, this is not part of entertaining the

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crowd. This is you expressing your personal opinions

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when you're supposed to be being an entertainer.

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So I could see them taking it on that level.

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It's like everyone's paying the money to be here

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and get entertained, not get a lecture on your

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political views. Yeah, and I go to the shut up

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and sing thing that we've talked about so much.

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And unless you're sure that absolutely everybody's

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on board with your opinion, then maybe not piss

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off the people who are there paying you for your

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appearance. Maybe not do that. Of course, then

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the next thing that happened was there's this

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Irish rap group called Kneecap. Kneecap? Kneecap.

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And they finished their set with three things

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that were incredibly pro -Palestine and anti

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-Israel. and making very definite, very definitely

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taking the side of Hamas against Israel and saying,

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basically the third message was fuck Israel,

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long live Palestine. Oh yeah, I remember that.

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And they got run right out. And even Sharon Osbourne

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is weighing in on that. Oh, is she? What did

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she say? She was saying that it's basically how

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inappropriate it was to do that. in an entertainment

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venue. And being a member of the United Kingdom

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herself, she understands how the Irish through

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the years have felt about oppression and occupation

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and that stuff. So I think her point was they're

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using their experience as Irish people. to have

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an opinion about Hamas and Israel. And it doesn't

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necessarily correlate. You can't just substitute

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one for the other. Things are vastly different.

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So, again, it's political grandstanding when

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you're supposed to be entertaining the crowd.

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Yeah, on the other side of the spectrum, I never

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had to pronounce this guy's name. I've heard

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people say Deadmau5, and I've also heard Deadmau5,

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because the last character is a five instead

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of an S. Yeah, I've heard Deadmau5, but yeah.

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So whatever you pronounce his name. The guy with

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the big giant helmet on does the DJ stuff. During

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his recent set at Coachella, he was so drunk

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he blacked out during his own show. Yeah, so

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he was criticized widely for that. But he has

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apologized, and let's hope he gets a little assistance

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for his monitoring his use of recreational drugs.

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But imagine how awful it would be if he'd thrown

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up inside that big -ass helmet he wears. Oh,

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that would have been funny. It would have shorted

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everything out. It would be smoking and burning

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you like Darth Vader. I had something I was going

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to look up, and I can't find it now, damn it.

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And I was going to bring it on this show. Well,

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I have some more names that you put together

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that are, you know, you probably don't want to

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put together two bands. All right. I've got Rage

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Against the Wallflowers. Why not? Those poor

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wallflowers never did anything. They're like,

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what the hell? Why is everybody beating on us

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and yelling and screaming? Oh, my gosh. The next

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one I have is deep oyster. Wow, that could mean

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all sorts of things. Yes, that's why I said that.

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What do you want to do tonight? Let's do the

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deep oyster. I don't know. Hard to get arrested

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for that. What I'm trying to look up is the Allman

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Brothers motorcycle curse, but it keeps taking

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me to stupid shit. Oh, yeah. So that's why I'm

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reading these off until then. I have these right

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here. It's Dwayne Allman and Barry O 'Reilly.

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Mm -hmm. They both had motorcycle wrecks. Yeah,

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and then it was... You know what? We can piece

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this together ourselves, but we can go into it

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a little bit more. They had a roadie, and they

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also had a manager and a producer. Oh, wow. Die

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in motorcycle wrecks, but I can't seem to find

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it right now. My next one would be... U2 B40.

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I love that. Both of you. Both of you. Not one

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of you. Both of you. U2 named themselves after

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a spy plane that the Americans used. Oh, that's

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right. They did, didn't they? And UB40 named

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themselves after the form you fill out to get

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unemployment and welfare in England. I'd always

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heard that it was the abortion pill. ub40 and

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that's why no no i i believe your version more

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i think you ever watch the movie train spotting

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they refer to it by number as the ub40 that's

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right well that was just like one of those uh

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urban legends yeah so and then the bangles song

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going down to liverpool uh -huh uh the chorus

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goes uh In the verse, she says, hey, now, where

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are you going with that UB -40 in your hand?

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That's right. And then the chorus says, I'm going

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down to Liverpool and do nothing for the rest

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of my life. Which means I'm going to go get on

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public assistance and just give up. Yeah. Yep.

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So that is what it means. Yeah. No, I'd heard

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that before. Everyone knew what it actually meant.

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It was widely speculated that it meant the abortion

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pill, but I think the abortion pill is like a

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couple letters off. It was Plan B. Plan B, UB40.

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That's where they got it, I think. I think that's

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where they kind of, yeah, they kind of see it.

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All right. The next one, Ronnie James Lauper.

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Girls just want to have holy fun. Wow. What kind

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of hairstyle would Bonnie James Walker have?

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Okay, it would have to be blonde with some pink

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in it. Yeah. Yeah. And he can wear his chainmail

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outfit. Wow. It's just like a friend of mine

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said, he met Dio. His uncle owned a bunch of

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venues in town, and he met Dio. And the first

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thing he said to him, he got kicked out of backstage

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and said, why the English accent? You're from

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Philly. I guess he liked to talk in the English

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accent. I've met some people like that. Yeah.

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And he was ordered out very quickly. All right.

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Next one. 10 ,000 pumpkins. I like that one.

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Yeah. Yeah, I mean, a lot of pumpkins. It was

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a great season, man. We had a bumper crop. 10

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,000 pumpkins. Oh, this next one, you're going

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to like. Black maiden. Wow, that could be inappropriate

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on a lot of levels. It could be, but I meant

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it like an African -American woman. Getting ready

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to get married. Yeah, there you go. So there

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you go. But, I mean, something like this, it

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leaves a lot of innuendos. So anyone can take

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it wherever they want. That's not how it's meant.

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The next one is Roach Pie. Papa Roach and Humble

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Pie? Yes. That's awesome. That, I thought, is

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like, ugh. You see, like, little legs and shells.

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I've been trying to do something with the band

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name Spooky Tooth, but that's already stupid

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enough. It is. How far can you take that? Yeah.

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Spooky Tooth. Okay. I think you just added a

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letter after that. Yeah. Spooky Tooth LM. Yeah,

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there you go. Well, it was a British band. British

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teeth are kind of scary over the years. Yeah,

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that's true. Was that thunder? It sounded like

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a little bit of thunder. All right. Cool. Blue

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Sky Thunder. That's interesting. Okay, it doesn't

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look like he sleeps under here. Yeah, I see your

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blue sky over your shoulder, but yeah, I think

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we're okay. Yeah, I think we're okay. If you

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hear a loud buzzing noise, it's because we all

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got shorted out and electrocuted. Yes. It's been

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nice knowing you. Yeah. Don't look for any more

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podcasts. Not even this one. Not even this one.

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All right. The next one, Rancid Buffet. Or Buffet.

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Rancid Buffet, yes. I always called him Jimmy

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Buffay anyway. I did too. That's why I did this.

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Just because the Parrotheads didn't like it.

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It's like, oh, you don't like it? I'm going to

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do it some more then. Yeah, I used to do that

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too. It's not Buffay, it's Buffett. It's like,

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oh, who says? Well, he's not saying anything

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now. Well, if you ever wanted to have sex with

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an alcoholic milf. Then a Jimmy Buffett concert

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was the place to do it. Yes. It's like 90 % alcoholic

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milfs. Yes. The next one, Five Finger Palmer.

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Wow, that sounds like pleasuring yourself. Yeah.

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Hey, what are you doing? The five -finger Palmer.

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All right, I'm out. Bye. Be sure to wash your

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hands before you handle a customer's food. Yeah,

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but if you have to do that right now, make sure

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there's a wash your hands and then get the germ

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stuff over there, too. Get underneath your nails.

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You never know. Especially the one where you

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had your fingers up your own butt. Oh, yeah,

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yeah, yeah. You know, look, I'm not here to judge,

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but I think it's unsanitary. Yeah. Just a guess.

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Yeah. The next one, Red Hot Pussycat. I actually

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kind of like that one. I do, too. That'd make

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a good band name. As long as Anthony Key just

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wasn't in the band. Because I don't want to see

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his pussycat. No, no, no, no. Yeah, I mean, I

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guess he could always make out with David Navarro,

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like all those, how many videos did they have

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him doing that? A bunch. Yeah, and it was kind

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of like a... Okay, it was shocking. Now we're

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just like, okay, so you guys are buying. Okay,

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whatever. Can we get past it? It's like, what,

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a Sunday or Monday, this past Sunday or Monday,

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where Kanye West came out and publicly told everybody

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he sucked his cousin's dick for like eight years

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straight. I didn't know that. Yeah, it's like

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all over the memes everywhere. And people are

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like, is this really true? And he said, yeah,

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he really said it. From age like 16 to 14, he

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was sucking his cousin's dick just about every

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day. Now, whether he's being forced to or he's

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bullied into it, how old the cousin was, I have

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no idea. It's been long rumored that he's been

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gay for a long time. But he just comes right

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out and tells everybody that. It's like, well,

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I hope that whatever... Imagine his cousin. Yeah.

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It's like, I hope whatever you were hoping to

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accomplish there really is worth it, but I didn't

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need to know that about him. Yeah, I don't know

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why you would do that unless you're trying to

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get sympathy. Sympathy, yeah. Sympathy. Yeah,

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well, whatever. I can't say today. Like, yeah,

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big surprise. But see how far he's fallen. Remember,

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at one point he had billionaire status. Yeah.

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Now he's down to $400 million, which is still

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way more money than I'll ever see. Yeah. Is he

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trying to gather attention for something he's

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getting ready to do? Because that $400 million

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could dry up really quick. If his businesses

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are devalued, it all goes away. It's not like

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he has that much cash in the bank. Yeah, how

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old was his cousin? I don't know. Was it a molesting

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thing? It could be. If his cousin was over the

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age of, say, 18, then absolutely. Yeah, I mean,

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if he goes more into it and it's something like

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that, then I understand why he said something

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to bring awareness like this happens to family

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members. Right now it sounds like he wanted attention,

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so he said this. Yeah, then everyone's just kind

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of like that. We kind of figured. It's just weird

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how he just decided to tell everybody that out

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of the blue. For a long time it's been rumored

00:15:24.519 --> 00:15:26.759
that he's been gay, and he always travels with

00:15:26.759 --> 00:15:32.059
that artist guy or something, or maybe his clothes

00:15:32.059 --> 00:15:35.220
designer or something, another dude. Yeah. They're

00:15:35.220 --> 00:15:38.360
always traveling together. So there's always

00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:40.600
been speculating, hey, those guys are together

00:15:40.600 --> 00:15:43.139
a lot, and that other guy is not what they say

00:15:43.139 --> 00:15:50.019
he is. All right, the next one I got. I feel

00:15:50.019 --> 00:15:51.899
a little bit of rain again. I'm smelling wet

00:15:51.899 --> 00:15:55.700
concrete and wet asphalt. I don't see it, though.

00:15:55.740 --> 00:15:58.320
That's weird. We're just hallucinating. I do,

00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:01.220
too. I smell it, too, big time. It always reminds

00:16:01.220 --> 00:16:03.460
me of being at an amusement park in the summer,

00:16:03.559 --> 00:16:05.940
and a little cloudburst comes over and lets everything

00:16:05.940 --> 00:16:08.200
down, so the ride's shut down for about 20 minutes.

00:16:08.539 --> 00:16:12.480
But you smell that concrete. Yeah. The next one

00:16:12.480 --> 00:16:17.190
I got is Pink Zombie. They do make them. I checked

00:16:17.190 --> 00:16:19.610
it up. There are pink zombies. Wow. They're the

00:16:19.610 --> 00:16:22.070
gay zombies. Oh, okay. You know, they have to

00:16:22.070 --> 00:16:24.750
be some. The Rumble Jets had a song called Zombie

00:16:24.750 --> 00:16:26.730
Girl. Yeah, they did. I love that song. I'm in

00:16:26.730 --> 00:16:28.970
love with a zombie girl. Yeah. I like that song.

00:16:29.230 --> 00:16:32.370
I'm going to get out my Rumble Jets CD, listen

00:16:32.370 --> 00:16:34.570
to that. Yeah, we actually watch them perform.

00:16:34.620 --> 00:16:36.460
Form that up in Weston, didn't we? Yeah, yeah.

00:16:36.580 --> 00:16:38.860
It used to be an old speakeasy. You had to go

00:16:38.860 --> 00:16:41.340
all the way down underground. Oh, Mallee's. Yeah,

00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:44.080
yeah. That was an actual speakeasy from the 30s,

00:16:44.080 --> 00:16:46.399
20s, I guess. Yeah, and they're having Tesco

00:16:46.399 --> 00:16:48.759
Fest up there that I wanted to go to. Oh, yeah.

00:16:49.220 --> 00:16:51.600
But I'm going to be on a cruise. Well, I'll be

00:16:51.600 --> 00:16:54.460
in Miami that day, coming back. So, yeah. Oh,

00:16:54.460 --> 00:16:57.539
well. Next one, maybe. No, the one in Bentonville

00:16:57.539 --> 00:17:00.259
looks much better. Never get a chance to look

00:17:00.259 --> 00:17:03.389
it up. They have topless. gunny sack races where

00:17:03.389 --> 00:17:05.890
two chicks are topless and they each have their

00:17:05.890 --> 00:17:10.529
left foot in the gunny sack. They have naked

00:17:10.529 --> 00:17:15.049
mud wrestling, huge bonfires, bands, testicle

00:17:15.049 --> 00:17:20.230
throwing contest, testicle eating contest, tank

00:17:20.230 --> 00:17:24.200
top, best tank top. I think Skip Bayless would

00:17:24.200 --> 00:17:26.500
probably win the testicle eating contest. Yes,

00:17:26.500 --> 00:17:29.019
he would. He's had Jerry Jones' balls in there

00:17:29.019 --> 00:17:33.160
his whole life. Yeah, yeah. Now, if it were 420

00:17:33.160 --> 00:17:34.200
friendly, that would be awesome. Oh, and then

00:17:34.200 --> 00:17:37.019
Joe Burrow. And I'm pretty sure Joe Burrow's

00:17:37.019 --> 00:17:40.079
like, dude, get the fuck away from me, man. Don't

00:17:40.079 --> 00:17:42.460
talk about me. Don't like me nothing. Just stay

00:17:42.460 --> 00:17:45.259
away. Yeah. No matter who you are, you don't

00:17:45.259 --> 00:17:47.200
want Skip Bayless to jump on your bandwagon.

00:17:47.460 --> 00:17:50.180
No, no, because that's certain death right there.

00:17:51.109 --> 00:17:54.450
If Skip Bayless likes you automatically, 90 %

00:17:54.450 --> 00:17:58.210
of humanity does not like you anymore. All right,

00:17:58.250 --> 00:18:06.329
the next one I got is Captain Kiss. So... That

00:18:06.329 --> 00:18:09.069
could either be Captain Intoneal or Captain Beefheart.

00:18:11.430 --> 00:18:16.589
Beefheart. Okay, he was more fun. Yeah. And then

00:18:16.589 --> 00:18:19.650
finally I have Rage Against the Naked Ladies.

00:18:22.519 --> 00:18:25.359
I mean, you know, I mean, maybe they didn't look

00:18:25.359 --> 00:18:29.039
so good naked. Get out of here right now, you

00:18:29.039 --> 00:18:34.720
damn naked women. Wow, that's good. Yeah. Why

00:18:34.720 --> 00:18:37.420
would you rage against naked ladies? I don't

00:18:37.420 --> 00:18:39.319
know either. I mean, I felt sorry for them. You

00:18:39.319 --> 00:18:41.180
know, there they are trying to do something for

00:18:41.180 --> 00:18:43.400
people. Yeah. And you start screaming at them,

00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.319
put your clothes back on. This is not a damn

00:18:46.319 --> 00:18:48.680
burlesque. I think I'd just, you know, organize

00:18:48.680 --> 00:18:52.349
a volleyball game. Yes. Or a gunny sack race.

00:18:52.450 --> 00:18:55.990
Yeah. Or at least jumping jacks. Yeah. Yes, yes,

00:18:56.029 --> 00:19:00.930
yes. Or mud wrestling. Yeah. Yeah. I want my

00:19:00.930 --> 00:19:04.609
mud wrestlers to have a mud tattoo on their shoulder.

00:19:05.809 --> 00:19:08.869
And an eye patch. Ooh. Yeah, but not on their

00:19:08.869 --> 00:19:16.710
eye. I want them to have nipple rings too. That

00:19:16.710 --> 00:19:18.869
way one of them can pull the other one out when

00:19:18.869 --> 00:19:20.789
they're on the ground. They can reach up there

00:19:20.789 --> 00:19:24.029
and go kink. Or have the type of match where

00:19:24.029 --> 00:19:26.890
they're tethered to each other by their nipple

00:19:26.890 --> 00:19:35.450
rings. That's it. That's what I want. It's like

00:19:35.450 --> 00:19:37.809
you can't get any further apart than this. It

00:19:37.809 --> 00:19:43.980
ends up being... A bloody chain with two bloody

00:19:43.980 --> 00:19:47.980
nipples on it. It would be like flag football.

00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:52.119
You yank the girl's nipple off, you win. Of course,

00:19:52.119 --> 00:19:54.059
then the guys could do it with a penis piercing.

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The terror out there would be so much worse.

00:20:01.180 --> 00:20:04.359
Every guy around, they start to watch it. They're

00:20:04.359 --> 00:20:06.000
like, you know what, I don't need to watch it.

00:20:07.589 --> 00:20:09.430
There's got to be some Priest Company reruns.

00:20:11.210 --> 00:20:16.829
Nasty. Shit, anyhow, where were we? Oh, I'm at

00:20:16.829 --> 00:20:19.349
the end of my stuff, so go ahead. Did we ever

00:20:19.349 --> 00:20:22.109
talk about Weezer's bassist and his wife getting

00:20:22.109 --> 00:20:26.329
shot? No. Oh, okay. Well, it was supposed to

00:20:26.329 --> 00:20:28.089
be for the last podcast where it didn't work

00:20:28.089 --> 00:20:32.559
out, but Weezer's... I was on a Coke binge. I'm

00:20:32.559 --> 00:20:36.140
sorry. And I was on a Pepsi binge. Yeah. Yes.

00:20:37.339 --> 00:20:40.019
Anyway, the guy's last name is Shriner. I don't

00:20:40.019 --> 00:20:42.039
remember his first name. But his wife, Jillian,

00:20:42.160 --> 00:20:50.420
is the one who got shot by police and then arrested.

00:20:51.359 --> 00:20:54.579
Wait, maybe I did hear a little bit. Go ahead.

00:20:54.720 --> 00:20:57.019
I did hear a little bit about that. So the police

00:20:57.019 --> 00:20:59.400
were responding to a call in the neighborhood.

00:21:00.019 --> 00:21:02.700
And when they got there, they saw Jillian Shriner

00:21:02.700 --> 00:21:05.759
with a handgun in her hand on her front lawn

00:21:05.759 --> 00:21:09.960
talking to another woman. And the police got

00:21:09.960 --> 00:21:11.660
out of their vehicles and pointed their guns

00:21:11.660 --> 00:21:12.960
at her because they didn't know who the hell

00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.279
this person was and said, drop your weapon, drop

00:21:15.279 --> 00:21:18.720
your weapon. She refused. And according to the

00:21:18.720 --> 00:21:22.200
police, well, according to everyone, she raised

00:21:22.200 --> 00:21:24.400
her gun and pointed it at the police. According

00:21:24.400 --> 00:21:27.589
to the police, she then fired and shot. They

00:21:27.589 --> 00:21:30.029
returned fire, wounding her. She ran into the

00:21:30.029 --> 00:21:32.750
house, along with the other woman, came out a

00:21:32.750 --> 00:21:34.490
few minutes later and surrendered to police.

00:21:34.869 --> 00:21:37.930
And they arrested her and took her away. Now,

00:21:38.049 --> 00:21:40.230
her husband was so upset and distraught about

00:21:40.230 --> 00:21:42.670
this that two days later he flew off to do a

00:21:42.670 --> 00:21:48.250
Weezer concert. So that's how much he cared.

00:21:50.690 --> 00:21:54.549
Okay. Obviously she's insane. Yeah, I think so.

00:21:54.910 --> 00:21:56.750
It's probably like, they didn't take her to jail

00:21:56.750 --> 00:21:59.490
long enough. I've got to go do a concert. Yeah.

00:21:59.869 --> 00:22:03.289
Now, I've heard someone commenting that she either

00:22:03.289 --> 00:22:08.630
is or has been heavily into drugs and is a former

00:22:08.630 --> 00:22:11.470
porn star. That would make the optimal amount

00:22:11.470 --> 00:22:14.970
of sense. Yeah. Because particularly hard rock

00:22:14.970 --> 00:22:18.730
people and hard alternative, whatever you call

00:22:18.730 --> 00:22:23.190
it, guitar -based, they tend to like porn stars.

00:22:23.720 --> 00:22:26.420
And drug addicts. So it fits the bill. Yeah.

00:22:27.640 --> 00:22:32.339
I can't believe Weezer. To me, the surprise is

00:22:32.339 --> 00:22:34.960
Weezer is still doing concerts. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

00:22:35.740 --> 00:22:38.380
Everything else I can believe. Yeah. The Weezer

00:22:38.380 --> 00:22:40.019
doing a concert. I don't know if I believe that.

00:22:40.180 --> 00:22:42.240
Yeah. This is kind of weird. I think he made

00:22:42.240 --> 00:22:45.069
that up. They're not really like. a big act selling

00:22:45.069 --> 00:22:47.369
out anywhere so the concert the guy went off

00:22:47.369 --> 00:22:49.269
to play was probably something just kind of mediocre

00:22:49.269 --> 00:22:51.710
oh i agree but it's really telling that you know

00:22:51.710 --> 00:22:54.250
his wife was in jail and then in the hospital

00:22:54.250 --> 00:22:57.210
for a gunshot from the police and he's like yeah

00:22:57.210 --> 00:23:00.509
whatever bitch i got a job to do yeah yeah okay

00:23:00.509 --> 00:23:04.190
hope you heal bye yeah tells me about the state

00:23:04.190 --> 00:23:06.990
of their relationship yeah and i also think it's

00:23:06.990 --> 00:23:11.190
probably because she's insane or on drugs on

00:23:11.190 --> 00:23:16.119
drugs insane which is even worse yeah there's

00:23:16.119 --> 00:23:20.740
a current trend recent but current mexican fans

00:23:20.740 --> 00:23:26.859
are starting to write pro -cartel songs glorifying

00:23:26.859 --> 00:23:30.960
the murders and the terrorism and the destruction

00:23:30.960 --> 00:23:35.059
of the drug cartels and they're doing these at

00:23:35.059 --> 00:23:38.700
outdoor concerts and it's causing riots in the

00:23:38.700 --> 00:23:43.079
in the crowd Wow. Yeah. That's not good at all.

00:23:43.359 --> 00:23:46.000
Now, I kind of think it's along the lines of

00:23:46.000 --> 00:23:49.700
in the 60s and early 70s, it became a thing to

00:23:49.700 --> 00:23:54.039
get satanic in rock and roll. Yes. And it was

00:23:54.039 --> 00:23:57.500
to piss off the parents, basically. But you didn't

00:23:57.500 --> 00:24:00.460
have riots in the crowd, again, among the pro

00:24:00.460 --> 00:24:03.539
-Christian and anti -Christian fans. It's getting

00:24:03.539 --> 00:24:05.759
ready to pour here, by the way. I just checked

00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:07.640
it. I think we're okay underneath here. Yeah,

00:24:07.640 --> 00:24:10.480
I think so. Anyhow, okay. But it seems like these

00:24:10.480 --> 00:24:14.299
Mexican bands are doing it for the shock value

00:24:14.299 --> 00:24:16.779
and don't really care about the consequences.

00:24:17.220 --> 00:24:21.400
Yeah. It's really an attitude of I'm living for

00:24:21.400 --> 00:24:25.420
right now and who cares about tomorrow. Yeah.

00:24:26.079 --> 00:24:28.460
Okay, I have something a little bit different

00:24:28.460 --> 00:24:32.579
on this because I've read about this too. Okay,

00:24:33.180 --> 00:24:34.880
it's getting to where it's affecting tourism,

00:24:35.140 --> 00:24:38.240
the cartels. Before it didn't. People were like,

00:24:38.299 --> 00:24:40.500
oh, that doesn't happen that much. Now that it's

00:24:40.500 --> 00:24:42.779
all over, people are actually going to other

00:24:42.779 --> 00:24:45.519
places besides Mexico. The government is going

00:24:45.519 --> 00:24:47.559
to have to make a conscious effort to try to

00:24:47.559 --> 00:24:50.140
quell this because it's really hurting their

00:24:50.140 --> 00:24:52.880
bottom line on money. They're not having American

00:24:52.880 --> 00:24:55.039
money go in there as much because people are

00:24:55.039 --> 00:24:57.660
going, we're going to go to St. Thomas. It's

00:24:57.660 --> 00:24:59.359
just a little bit more money, but there's no

00:24:59.359 --> 00:25:01.940
gang activity there. And that's a lesson that

00:25:01.940 --> 00:25:04.529
so many countries have learned. is that you chase

00:25:04.529 --> 00:25:06.670
away the tourism dollars, you're hurting, and

00:25:06.670 --> 00:25:08.390
it takes a while to get back. Especially Mexico.

00:25:08.630 --> 00:25:11.109
Mexico really relies on American money going

00:25:11.109 --> 00:25:15.609
down there. I mean, the poaching of wild game

00:25:15.609 --> 00:25:20.130
animals in Africa has had such a bad effect on

00:25:20.130 --> 00:25:23.589
tourism that the game rangers, the game wardens

00:25:23.589 --> 00:25:26.910
out there, shoot to kill. They see a poacher,

00:25:26.950 --> 00:25:29.910
they shoot to kill. Yeah. Number one, they know

00:25:29.910 --> 00:25:31.809
the poacher's going to shoot back. And number

00:25:31.809 --> 00:25:35.369
two, it's that important for tourism. So countries

00:25:35.369 --> 00:25:38.470
take this very seriously. So once you interfere

00:25:38.470 --> 00:25:41.650
with the government's flow of money, either the

00:25:41.650 --> 00:25:44.549
cartel has to make up for that flow or the government's

00:25:44.549 --> 00:25:47.230
going to come after you. Mexico does things differently

00:25:47.230 --> 00:25:49.190
than America. True, true. So they're not going

00:25:49.190 --> 00:25:50.769
to have a bunch of people battling them on this,

00:25:50.849 --> 00:25:52.789
but I think they're going to outlaw any type

00:25:52.789 --> 00:25:57.309
of cartel talk or songs about in any concert.

00:25:57.879 --> 00:26:02.180
As I recall, Mexico does not have a constitutionally

00:26:02.180 --> 00:26:04.599
guaranteed freedom of speech. Exactly. And so

00:26:04.599 --> 00:26:06.839
the government can go tell you to shut up. Yeah,

00:26:06.859 --> 00:26:09.279
so they could even go in there with force. Go,

00:26:09.380 --> 00:26:10.920
you know what, next time they do it, just go

00:26:10.920 --> 00:26:13.099
in there and take them out. Yeah, I wouldn't

00:26:13.099 --> 00:26:16.240
be surprised. Yeah, so I think that they have

00:26:16.240 --> 00:26:18.480
to. They may not necessarily give a shit per

00:26:18.480 --> 00:26:20.759
se, but they do when their money's affected.

00:26:21.259 --> 00:26:25.549
And I know three people. And this is how I already

00:26:25.549 --> 00:26:27.130
read about it. I know three people that were

00:26:27.130 --> 00:26:29.029
going to go to Mexico, but now we're going somewhere

00:26:29.029 --> 00:26:31.930
else. Because of that. They're like, you know

00:26:31.930 --> 00:26:33.869
what, we're getting tired of it. And we don't

00:26:33.869 --> 00:26:36.190
go on Western Caribbean cruises anymore because

00:26:36.190 --> 00:26:39.049
of that. You get hassled. You get ripped off.

00:26:39.210 --> 00:26:42.670
You get fucked with. You get people surly. It's

00:26:42.670 --> 00:26:44.410
like, yeah, we can go to St. Thomas and everybody

00:26:44.410 --> 00:26:47.500
loves us. And it's beautiful. So fuck you. We

00:26:47.500 --> 00:26:49.740
don't need you. We don't need to go to your beaches

00:26:49.740 --> 00:26:52.099
or whatever. There's better beaches over where

00:26:52.099 --> 00:26:54.759
we're getting ready to go, the ABC Islands. I

00:26:54.759 --> 00:26:57.519
remember growing up hearing my grandparents tell

00:26:57.519 --> 00:27:00.359
stories about they would take a yearly trip to

00:27:00.359 --> 00:27:05.160
Mexico by car or motorhome. This would have been

00:27:05.160 --> 00:27:09.619
the late 50s, early and mid -60s. They loved

00:27:09.619 --> 00:27:12.039
it. They enjoyed every bit of it. They said it's

00:27:12.039 --> 00:27:15.200
so cheap. Everyone's so friendly. It's just so

00:27:15.200 --> 00:27:19.299
nice. The weather's so nice. Looking back on

00:27:19.299 --> 00:27:23.319
it, I can hear now that when my grandmother talked

00:27:23.319 --> 00:27:26.559
about the Mexican people, she did so the way

00:27:26.559 --> 00:27:31.519
you would talk about an unruly child. So she

00:27:31.519 --> 00:27:33.839
didn't really think of the Mexican people in

00:27:33.839 --> 00:27:37.160
their own country as full -grown adults like

00:27:37.160 --> 00:27:42.460
her. She considered them less than. Okay. So

00:27:42.460 --> 00:27:45.039
I think that was a big thing for a long time.

00:27:45.160 --> 00:27:48.779
The people were told, suck up to the tourists,

00:27:48.859 --> 00:27:51.180
be nice to the tourists, let them treat you like

00:27:51.180 --> 00:27:53.440
dirt. All these white people are going to come

00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:55.940
to the United States and spend money. Let them

00:27:55.940 --> 00:27:58.519
call you whatever words they want to call you

00:27:58.519 --> 00:28:01.940
because we want the money. I think a lot of that

00:28:01.940 --> 00:28:05.380
resentment has all, you know, the bill has come

00:28:05.380 --> 00:28:08.039
due on that. And a lot of people are like, you

00:28:08.039 --> 00:28:11.359
know, fuck tourism. You know, this is our country.

00:28:11.400 --> 00:28:13.519
We want to run it the way we want to do what

00:28:13.519 --> 00:28:15.900
we want. To hell with tourism. They're going

00:28:15.900 --> 00:28:18.519
to have to really rethink that because on a tour

00:28:18.519 --> 00:28:20.700
of Belize that I had quite a few years ago, I

00:28:20.700 --> 00:28:23.799
think it's 2006 if I remember correctly, the

00:28:23.799 --> 00:28:26.119
lady was explaining Belize and how it used to

00:28:26.119 --> 00:28:31.140
be called Wallace. Oh, wow. And it was pretty

00:28:31.140 --> 00:28:34.259
much occupied by the British. It was one of the

00:28:34.259 --> 00:28:37.220
British isles or whatever you want to call them.

00:28:37.440 --> 00:28:40.160
That was, you know, their territory. They all

00:28:40.160 --> 00:28:42.680
got together, the Belizeans, I guess, or whatever.

00:28:42.880 --> 00:28:45.900
Okay. And they said, we don't want the white

00:28:45.900 --> 00:28:48.299
man here running things. So the British took

00:28:48.299 --> 00:28:50.240
all their industry. And this lady was mad. She

00:28:50.240 --> 00:28:53.700
was a Belizean. And she goes. They took all the

00:28:53.700 --> 00:28:56.859
industry and we have nothing now. Now we have

00:28:56.859 --> 00:28:58.539
to have the white man come over. And she wasn't

00:28:58.539 --> 00:29:01.859
being an adversary at all. She was just explaining

00:29:01.859 --> 00:29:03.640
how she saw it. She goes, now we have to have

00:29:03.640 --> 00:29:05.680
the white man come over and trample our land.

00:29:06.980 --> 00:29:11.240
So before we used to be able to do industry because,

00:29:11.359 --> 00:29:13.619
yeah, there's some white people there. And it

00:29:13.619 --> 00:29:16.880
wasn't necessarily, let me explain this a little

00:29:16.880 --> 00:29:20.160
bit better. It was not a racial thing. It was

00:29:20.160 --> 00:29:22.579
like. Not that I could tell. Not by the way it

00:29:22.579 --> 00:29:24.660
was worded. It was more like, these people are

00:29:24.660 --> 00:29:26.960
controlling us. Oh, shit, I didn't mean to do

00:29:26.960 --> 00:29:31.700
that. So I hit your ambient noise. These people

00:29:31.700 --> 00:29:34.500
are controlling us, and we don't like it. Yeah,

00:29:34.559 --> 00:29:36.559
whatever kind of business deal you had with them,

00:29:36.599 --> 00:29:39.299
they weren't citizens of your country, so that

00:29:39.299 --> 00:29:40.779
didn't mean the money was leaving the country.

00:29:41.059 --> 00:29:44.660
White man was a description. Yeah. It's not that

00:29:44.660 --> 00:29:46.160
they were white, it's just that they weren't

00:29:46.160 --> 00:29:49.119
Belize. They weren't our people, therefore they're

00:29:49.119 --> 00:29:50.920
taking money out of our country. We should be

00:29:50.920 --> 00:29:54.420
running this. Yeah, so if you heard that in the

00:29:54.420 --> 00:29:56.519
wrong way, that's not how it's meant. I'm not

00:29:56.519 --> 00:29:58.680
saying Belize people are racist or nothing like

00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:00.420
that. What I'm saying is they don't like to be

00:30:00.420 --> 00:30:03.730
controlled by a foreign government. i'm not going

00:30:03.730 --> 00:30:06.529
to hold anything against any people who resent

00:30:06.529 --> 00:30:09.450
the occupying force no me neither and that's

00:30:09.450 --> 00:30:12.170
why that's why i had to clarify that yeah is

00:30:12.170 --> 00:30:14.930
less it is not i'm pretty sure it's not like

00:30:14.930 --> 00:30:17.210
well your skin color looks different so get the

00:30:17.210 --> 00:30:19.170
fuck out of here i think it's more like hey what

00:30:19.170 --> 00:30:21.980
are these guys doing here yeah but then They

00:30:21.980 --> 00:30:24.579
have to rely on tourism now. Same thing with

00:30:24.579 --> 00:30:26.680
Mexico, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, they do have some

00:30:26.680 --> 00:30:28.559
industry and everything, but I think they really

00:30:28.559 --> 00:30:31.619
rely on tourism more than they want to admit.

00:30:31.900 --> 00:30:34.779
Yeah, they do. Yeah, I know they get a lot of

00:30:34.779 --> 00:30:38.440
money from oil exports. They get a lot of money

00:30:38.440 --> 00:30:43.539
from Mexican citizens abroad sending money home.

00:30:43.920 --> 00:30:47.660
Yes. Well, that has been cut way down now. Yeah,

00:30:47.660 --> 00:30:49.599
for a while that was their number two source

00:30:49.599 --> 00:30:52.650
of income right behind oil. But that, yeah, that

00:30:52.650 --> 00:30:56.910
has been cut down quite a bit. So tourism, as

00:30:56.910 --> 00:30:59.470
far as legitimate businesses go, as far as non

00:30:59.470 --> 00:31:01.250
-legitimate businesses, you know, there's the

00:31:01.250 --> 00:31:04.269
drug trade. Yeah. There's, you know, human trafficking

00:31:04.269 --> 00:31:07.190
of getting people across the border. And Mexico

00:31:07.190 --> 00:31:10.089
has also become a real hotbed for counterfeit

00:31:10.089 --> 00:31:13.630
products. Yes. Yeah, like it used to be. China

00:31:13.630 --> 00:31:15.769
used to do it all the time. Now Mexico's doing

00:31:15.769 --> 00:31:20.089
it. Yeah. And I was looking at some fake Rolexes

00:31:20.089 --> 00:31:23.359
in Ensenada. Number one, I'd never wear even

00:31:23.359 --> 00:31:25.960
a fake Rolex because that puts you as a target.

00:31:26.200 --> 00:31:28.960
Absolutely. But they're selling for $10. I mean,

00:31:28.980 --> 00:31:33.339
I've seen Rolexes before. Yeah. And I don't know

00:31:33.339 --> 00:31:34.859
how you can really tell the difference. It must

00:31:34.859 --> 00:31:36.859
be a serial number or something. These things

00:31:36.859 --> 00:31:41.740
were beautiful. Yeah. At $10? I've been seeing

00:31:41.740 --> 00:31:45.529
fake guitars. that look just like the real thing.

00:31:45.589 --> 00:31:47.750
Yes. In fact, people say this plays better than

00:31:47.750 --> 00:31:50.890
my genuine one. I've seen that. It was the one

00:31:50.890 --> 00:31:54.750
with the SG, the Gibson SG. Yeah. And the guy

00:31:54.750 --> 00:31:58.029
was like, this plays better. Why wouldn't you

00:31:58.029 --> 00:32:02.650
buy it? Yeah. And then Mexico's all as far as

00:32:02.650 --> 00:32:05.970
the counterfeiting goes. They've started making

00:32:05.970 --> 00:32:10.069
counterfeit firearms. Yes, and those ones right

00:32:10.069 --> 00:32:12.890
there. Those have been leading to a lot of injuries

00:32:12.890 --> 00:32:16.049
and deaths. Yeah, and the one I heard about in

00:32:16.049 --> 00:32:20.049
particular was a certain model of Glock semi

00:32:20.049 --> 00:32:23.630
-automatic handgun. And it's one that's extremely

00:32:23.630 --> 00:32:26.589
popular, so there's a crap ton of aftermarket

00:32:26.589 --> 00:32:29.650
accessories. And these counterfeits, all the

00:32:29.650 --> 00:32:32.309
accessories fit, no problem. But the fun thing

00:32:32.309 --> 00:32:34.450
about these counterfeits, there's absolutely

00:32:34.450 --> 00:32:39.230
no numbers anywhere. No identifying numbers anywhere.

00:32:40.200 --> 00:32:43.359
So they are the perfect invisible gun. Yeah.

00:32:43.420 --> 00:32:45.920
Use it, throw it away, they can never figure

00:32:45.920 --> 00:32:48.480
out where it came from. Yeah, and scary as hell.

00:32:48.740 --> 00:32:52.960
A Glock is a plastic gun. So it can't be really

00:32:52.960 --> 00:32:56.039
detected by metal detectors. Not very well. Not

00:32:56.039 --> 00:32:57.799
very well. They'll detect the ammo more than

00:32:57.799 --> 00:32:59.980
they detect the guns. Yeah, because the ammo

00:32:59.980 --> 00:33:01.619
they cannot, well, I guess they could make it

00:33:01.619 --> 00:33:04.059
out of plastic, but it would sting the shit out

00:33:04.059 --> 00:33:05.980
of you. Yeah, it would blow up the whole thing.

00:33:06.200 --> 00:33:08.559
Yeah, so, yeah, it would probably blow up the

00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:11.650
whole thing. Okay, yeah, it's leading to a lot

00:33:11.650 --> 00:33:13.630
of deaths. Some of them don't work properly,

00:33:13.730 --> 00:33:16.369
and some of them because people go commit crimes,

00:33:16.569 --> 00:33:19.690
and there's absolutely nothing to go by except

00:33:19.690 --> 00:33:23.710
the shell casing. That's it. And I've heard any

00:33:23.710 --> 00:33:27.710
more the shell casing is better at identifying

00:33:27.710 --> 00:33:30.710
a firearm than the scratches on the bullet itself.

00:33:31.049 --> 00:33:33.410
Yes. And nine times out of ten, the shell casing

00:33:33.410 --> 00:33:35.799
is in better shape than the bullet is. That's

00:33:35.799 --> 00:33:37.799
why they go to that. That's how come, you know,

00:33:37.819 --> 00:33:40.099
on TV you see the crime scenes. First thing they

00:33:40.099 --> 00:33:42.660
go for is the shell cases. Yep. And that's because

00:33:42.660 --> 00:33:45.220
it tells a story. It tells what was shot out

00:33:45.220 --> 00:33:47.339
of it. It tells it about, they can even tell

00:33:47.339 --> 00:33:51.880
the time by the carbon that's left. Uh -huh.

00:33:52.319 --> 00:33:54.259
And a lot of people leave fingerprints on the

00:33:54.259 --> 00:33:56.779
brass. That's another thing, too, because they

00:33:56.779 --> 00:33:59.119
think because they fired it off it would burn

00:33:59.119 --> 00:34:03.009
it off. No. No, it doesn't. So a lot of criminals

00:34:03.009 --> 00:34:05.049
have gone back to shooting revolvers because

00:34:05.049 --> 00:34:08.090
they don't eject any shell casings. You've got

00:34:08.090 --> 00:34:10.269
five or six shots and then you've got to reload,

00:34:10.449 --> 00:34:12.570
but if you bring a second revolver, you've got

00:34:12.570 --> 00:34:15.389
just as much as your 12 -round lock does. That's

00:34:15.389 --> 00:34:17.949
true. And no shell casings to pick up. Grab a

00:34:17.949 --> 00:34:21.469
koala bear's paw and put it on the shell casing.

00:34:21.710 --> 00:34:24.550
Yeah. There you go. They'll arrest all the koalas.

00:34:24.949 --> 00:34:27.590
Yeah. Well, no, they're identical to humans.

00:34:27.889 --> 00:34:31.989
Did you know that? Oh, that's right. I've heard

00:34:31.989 --> 00:34:35.110
that chimpanzees and gorillas have really detailed

00:34:35.110 --> 00:34:37.590
fingerprints as well. They do, but the koalas

00:34:37.590 --> 00:34:42.110
bit us almost perfectly. Off topic, but I've

00:34:42.110 --> 00:34:46.429
also heard that with the advancements in computer

00:34:46.429 --> 00:34:49.289
technology and comparing fingerprints, they've

00:34:49.289 --> 00:34:51.630
discovered that fingerprints are not unique.

00:34:52.929 --> 00:34:57.699
Really? There are repeats. Boy, that really hurts

00:34:57.699 --> 00:35:00.860
a lot of testimonies. Doesn't it? Yeah. I mean,

00:35:00.880 --> 00:35:02.780
the odds are pretty low. It's like instead of

00:35:02.780 --> 00:35:05.199
like, well, with all these marches, like one

00:35:05.199 --> 00:35:09.099
in 10 trillion, now it's like, oh, one in several

00:35:09.099 --> 00:35:11.980
hundred million. So what you're saying is there's

00:35:11.980 --> 00:35:14.199
still a chance. There's still a chance. Yeah.

00:35:14.420 --> 00:35:17.440
And they watch Dumb and Dumber. They know exactly

00:35:17.440 --> 00:35:20.880
what I'm talking about. So fingerprints, DNA

00:35:20.880 --> 00:35:24.659
still works. DNA is still really, really unique.

00:35:27.889 --> 00:35:30.389
So, let's see. What was I going to say? Damn

00:35:30.389 --> 00:35:32.150
it, I was going to go into something else that

00:35:32.150 --> 00:35:34.349
I found interesting. But go ahead. Just keep

00:35:34.349 --> 00:35:37.070
going. All right. Neil Young has come out with

00:35:37.070 --> 00:35:40.449
some apologies. Really? For some of his songs

00:35:40.449 --> 00:35:45.289
in the past. Okay. You remember the line in Sweet

00:35:45.289 --> 00:35:48.030
Home Alabama where Leonard Skinner says, I heard

00:35:48.030 --> 00:35:51.409
Neil Young sing about us. I heard old Neil put

00:35:51.409 --> 00:35:54.800
her down. I hope Neil Young will remember a Southern

00:35:54.800 --> 00:35:57.679
man don't need him around anyhow. Yeah. It was

00:35:57.679 --> 00:36:00.039
because Neil Young had come out with a song called

00:36:00.039 --> 00:36:03.780
Southern Man. Yeah. In which he blamed Southern

00:36:03.780 --> 00:36:07.659
men for all of the civil rights violations and

00:36:07.659 --> 00:36:12.199
all of the, basically everything bad happening

00:36:12.199 --> 00:36:15.320
to black people in America. He was blaming on

00:36:15.320 --> 00:36:21.090
Southern men, specifically. And he is now walking

00:36:21.090 --> 00:36:23.710
that back and saying, well, I really didn't mean

00:36:23.710 --> 00:36:26.230
Southern men specifically. I meant everybody

00:36:26.230 --> 00:36:30.010
in general. I'm not buying it. At the time, he

00:36:30.010 --> 00:36:33.030
was criticizing Southern men because the South,

00:36:33.110 --> 00:36:36.190
during the late 60s, early 70s, was one of the

00:36:36.190 --> 00:36:41.889
last remaining hot meds of Jim Crow laws, open

00:36:41.889 --> 00:36:47.030
white supremacy, open Klan activities. So, yeah,

00:36:47.090 --> 00:36:50.500
he was talking about them. Yes, he was. And I

00:36:50.500 --> 00:36:52.320
think it would have been better at this point

00:36:52.320 --> 00:36:54.900
just to go with it. Yeah, yeah. Leonard Skinner

00:36:54.900 --> 00:36:57.420
is only like, well, they're retired now, aren't

00:36:57.420 --> 00:36:59.940
they? Yeah, I think they are, yeah. Yeah. But

00:36:59.940 --> 00:37:03.179
it was like a third of them anyhow. I mean, Plain

00:37:03.179 --> 00:37:05.019
took out a bunch of them, and then Time took

00:37:05.019 --> 00:37:07.179
out a few of them too. And now they're just like,

00:37:07.199 --> 00:37:09.619
I don't know, whoever. They're almost like a

00:37:09.619 --> 00:37:13.119
cover band. Yeah. And as far as the Van Zant's

00:37:13.119 --> 00:37:17.960
go, the cousin? has done way more shows than

00:37:17.960 --> 00:37:21.480
Johnny Manzan. Yeah, it's ironic. Yeah. Arnold

00:37:21.480 --> 00:37:26.780
Pineda, who replaced Steve Perry in Journey,

00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:29.300
has done way more shows than Steve Perry ever

00:37:29.300 --> 00:37:31.079
did. Yeah, and he just retired, didn't he? Yeah.

00:37:31.360 --> 00:37:36.019
Yeah, he's done way more shows, I know. And he's

00:37:36.019 --> 00:37:39.619
good. He's really, really good. It kind of reminds

00:37:39.619 --> 00:37:42.179
me of the Queensryche singer, Todd LaTorre. Oh,

00:37:42.199 --> 00:37:44.690
yeah. He sounds so much like Jeff Tate. That

00:37:44.690 --> 00:37:48.030
it probably pisses Jeff Tate off. Yeah. I can't

00:37:48.030 --> 00:37:49.969
remember the singer for Foreigner, but he sounds

00:37:49.969 --> 00:37:51.829
a lot like Lou Graham. Lou Graham, yeah. What

00:37:51.829 --> 00:37:54.010
the hell is his name? But if you're going to

00:37:54.010 --> 00:37:56.110
have a replacement, that guy was like, I mean,

00:37:56.190 --> 00:37:59.170
so. Now, speaking of Lou Graham. Okay. Who is

00:37:59.170 --> 00:38:03.489
74 years old. Wow. He is rejoining Foreigner.

00:38:03.849 --> 00:38:06.769
He is? Finally? I thought his voice was totally

00:38:06.769 --> 00:38:09.840
done, but apparently he can sing still. And he

00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:13.039
says that any differences he's ever had in the

00:38:13.039 --> 00:38:15.420
past with any member of Foreigner, he says, I

00:38:15.420 --> 00:38:17.820
don't care. It doesn't mean anything. It's useless

00:38:17.820 --> 00:38:21.079
to hang on to that. Everybody's forgiven. I hope

00:38:21.079 --> 00:38:23.320
everybody forgives me. Let's just go make some

00:38:23.320 --> 00:38:26.440
music together. I'd love that. Right on. Right

00:38:26.440 --> 00:38:29.980
on. Well, supposedly Steve Perry can sing too,

00:38:30.039 --> 00:38:32.809
and he had all kinds of problems before. Steven

00:38:32.809 --> 00:38:35.050
Tyler is even starting to be able to sing again.

00:38:35.170 --> 00:38:36.690
Yes, that's right. Yeah. Didn't he have like

00:38:36.690 --> 00:38:40.670
a vocal stroke or something? Yeah. And the rhythm

00:38:40.670 --> 00:38:43.050
guitarist, Brad Hamilton, was saying, you know,

00:38:43.050 --> 00:38:44.570
he's starting to be able to sing a little bit.

00:38:44.610 --> 00:38:46.269
There's no way he's ever going to be able to

00:38:46.269 --> 00:38:49.250
sing in a concert ever again. Now Steven Tyler

00:38:49.250 --> 00:38:50.949
is saying, heck yeah, I want to do concerts,

00:38:51.210 --> 00:38:56.110
multiple concerts. So maybe a miracle of medical

00:38:56.110 --> 00:38:58.909
engineering. The fact that he's still alive.

00:38:59.190 --> 00:39:03.630
Yeah. Yeah, probably the blood of 12 virgin fetuses

00:39:03.630 --> 00:39:06.030
had to be transplanted into his vocal cords.

00:39:06.090 --> 00:39:07.750
I'm pretty sure that's what happened. And then,

00:39:07.769 --> 00:39:10.969
you know, 15 incantations to the Dark One. He

00:39:10.969 --> 00:39:13.230
marked off the stem cells. He got to pick who

00:39:13.230 --> 00:39:18.429
they came from. Anyways, all right. Oh, and the

00:39:18.429 --> 00:39:21.389
sacrifice to the Dark Lord, too. Yes, yes. But

00:39:21.389 --> 00:39:23.610
apparently Lou Graham had this big epiphany when

00:39:23.610 --> 00:39:25.650
Foreigner was inducted into the Hall of Fame

00:39:25.650 --> 00:39:29.110
in 2024. He's like, what am I missing out on?

00:39:29.150 --> 00:39:32.579
For what reason? I want to be part of this again.

00:39:32.760 --> 00:39:35.599
So good for him. After this, because that statement

00:39:35.599 --> 00:39:38.500
right there, I've got something that we probably

00:39:38.500 --> 00:39:40.340
should have talked about way before now, but

00:39:40.340 --> 00:39:42.159
go ahead. That was the end of my Lou Gram story.

00:39:42.260 --> 00:39:46.260
Oh, okay. Glenn Hughes. Yeah. Deep Purple for

00:39:46.260 --> 00:39:50.380
four albums maybe. The problem is there's only

00:39:50.380 --> 00:39:52.599
two with Blackmore, and he was pretty much their

00:39:52.599 --> 00:39:57.579
sound. Then they had Bowlin, Tommy Bowlin. And

00:39:57.579 --> 00:40:01.059
I think for two albums, and then he died. But

00:40:01.059 --> 00:40:04.079
the band was already broke up, according to Glenn

00:40:04.079 --> 00:40:07.059
Hughes, and they never got to tell him. Okay,

00:40:08.519 --> 00:40:12.940
Glenn Hughes and David Coverdale both went to

00:40:12.940 --> 00:40:16.360
the Hall of Fame induction. Glenn Hughes said,

00:40:16.559 --> 00:40:18.820
and it actually kind of backs it up on tape,

00:40:18.920 --> 00:40:21.500
take a look when you get a chance. He tried to

00:40:21.500 --> 00:40:24.860
give Ian Gillen a hug. And Ian Gillan pushed

00:40:24.860 --> 00:40:27.760
him away and would not even look at him. Wow.

00:40:28.039 --> 00:40:30.739
He said that Ian Gillan has a problem with me

00:40:30.739 --> 00:40:32.380
and Coverdale. He did the same thing with David

00:40:32.380 --> 00:40:34.920
Coverdale. And he doesn't know what they did

00:40:34.920 --> 00:40:38.179
to him. Wow. And the other member that was gone,

00:40:38.280 --> 00:40:42.000
oh, Roger Glover. Yeah. Was the same way. Huh.

00:40:42.739 --> 00:40:45.119
And the rest of the band, I think, were kind

00:40:45.119 --> 00:40:47.019
of indifferent. They weren't really becoming,

00:40:47.280 --> 00:40:49.059
they're just kind of like, oh, hey, they're here.

00:40:49.280 --> 00:40:52.779
Yeah. The only thing I can think of is, They

00:40:52.779 --> 00:40:56.980
don't consider the Burn album and the Stormbringer

00:40:56.980 --> 00:41:00.280
and what was the other? I can't remember. They

00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.039
thought that maybe it watered down their music.

00:41:02.199 --> 00:41:04.219
That's the only thing I could think of. Or maybe

00:41:04.219 --> 00:41:06.500
they thought they shouldn't even be there. I

00:41:06.500 --> 00:41:09.239
mean, Burn was a big enough hit on its own, and

00:41:09.239 --> 00:41:12.590
Stormbringer was a fair good hit. It's always

00:41:12.590 --> 00:41:14.989
difficult when you nominate a band and they've

00:41:14.989 --> 00:41:17.329
had lineup changes. Well, I always wanted Ronnie

00:41:17.329 --> 00:41:20.190
Dio to go in with Sabbath. Yeah. I thought he

00:41:20.190 --> 00:41:23.010
did such iconic work with them, he should have

00:41:23.010 --> 00:41:25.230
been there. And I don't understand why he wasn't.

00:41:28.289 --> 00:41:31.269
Yeah, I don't know. I mean, the only thing I

00:41:31.269 --> 00:41:33.909
can think of is they thought they were hangers

00:41:33.909 --> 00:41:36.269
-on and they didn't think they deserved to be

00:41:36.269 --> 00:41:39.389
there. I know sometimes they go by album sales

00:41:39.389 --> 00:41:43.369
with this member in the band. Who knows? I don't

00:41:43.369 --> 00:41:46.369
know why, because Ronnie James Dio did way more

00:41:46.369 --> 00:41:50.289
than... What the hell? Way more than two albums

00:41:50.289 --> 00:41:53.469
with him, and the requirement is two albums in

00:41:53.469 --> 00:41:57.489
a band. I never plugged the computer in. Oh,

00:41:57.489 --> 00:41:59.690
that's why I flipped out. Yeah, its battery's

00:41:59.690 --> 00:42:03.289
about to die, so... Okay. Here we go. All right.

00:42:04.389 --> 00:42:07.170
So... Ta -da! It's happy again. There we go.

00:42:07.449 --> 00:42:10.429
I plugged it into the power bank, forgot to plug

00:42:10.429 --> 00:42:12.989
it into the computer. So this is how long the

00:42:12.989 --> 00:42:15.489
laptop battery goes until it's about to fail.

00:42:15.610 --> 00:42:18.090
That's actually not bad. Yeah, we've been here

00:42:18.090 --> 00:42:21.889
a while. Yeah, I was going to do a podcast from

00:42:21.889 --> 00:42:24.909
the cruise, a couple of them, with a laptop and

00:42:24.909 --> 00:42:28.489
a mic and all that stuff, but evidently they

00:42:28.489 --> 00:42:31.230
have outlawed them on cruises because people

00:42:31.230 --> 00:42:33.250
do videocasts, and I guess they're showing stuff

00:42:33.250 --> 00:42:35.210
they don't want them to. I could see that, yeah.

00:42:35.489 --> 00:42:39.230
Yeah, so it's like you could try it. Yeah, well,

00:42:39.269 --> 00:42:42.110
on some of the places they may be okay with it,

00:42:42.150 --> 00:42:44.170
but you don't know. You could get kicked off

00:42:44.170 --> 00:42:46.570
at the next port if they don't like it. Wow.

00:42:46.929 --> 00:42:48.909
Yeah. And if you're going to do it, you've got

00:42:48.909 --> 00:42:50.650
to do it in your room, but I don't want to carry

00:42:50.650 --> 00:42:52.469
all that stuff and have to do it in the room.

00:42:52.550 --> 00:42:57.010
Yeah. You know, I'd rather go up there and just

00:42:57.010 --> 00:43:02.329
do it there, you know, just be up there. When

00:43:02.329 --> 00:43:04.289
you sign on the dotted line for your tickets,

00:43:04.349 --> 00:43:06.010
you're agreeing to all sorts of stuff that you

00:43:06.010 --> 00:43:08.110
don't know because you can't read all that fine

00:43:08.110 --> 00:43:10.889
print. Pretty much it's their discretion. So

00:43:10.889 --> 00:43:12.650
I could do a podcast there and they didn't like

00:43:12.650 --> 00:43:16.210
it and they're like, get off. Risking your whole

00:43:16.210 --> 00:43:20.949
cruise. And then generally speaking, if you get

00:43:20.949 --> 00:43:22.829
kicked off of one cruise, you're usually done.

00:43:23.050 --> 00:43:25.289
The maritime board does not like that. They'll

00:43:25.289 --> 00:43:27.869
share the information. They'll say, no, this

00:43:27.869 --> 00:43:31.980
guy doesn't need to be there. We don't like his

00:43:31.980 --> 00:43:35.559
money. Yep. So the thing that I think is is this

00:43:35.559 --> 00:43:39.219
right here. I think that the animosity is they

00:43:39.219 --> 00:43:43.059
think that Deep Purple was not the same without,

00:43:43.219 --> 00:43:48.420
you know, Ian Gillen and Roger Clover. Yeah.

00:43:48.480 --> 00:43:51.880
Those two people in particular and the rest of

00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.559
the band kind of seem to think, even though the

00:43:55.559 --> 00:43:57.619
rest of the band was there with them. Yeah. I

00:43:57.619 --> 00:44:00.579
mean, Blackmore wasn't with them at the... He

00:44:00.579 --> 00:44:04.000
declined to go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

00:44:04.739 --> 00:44:09.280
So the whole band, the ones that were with him,

00:44:09.300 --> 00:44:13.980
like Ian Pace and John Lord, were definitely

00:44:13.980 --> 00:44:17.039
there. They were there with Coverdell, and Blackmore

00:44:17.039 --> 00:44:21.260
was too, with Coverdell and Glenn Hughes. That

00:44:21.260 --> 00:44:25.099
lineup, whatever it was, MK30 or whatever, they

00:44:25.099 --> 00:44:28.579
were with them there. performing the music. So

00:44:28.579 --> 00:44:30.980
I don't see why Ian Gillen or someone like that

00:44:30.980 --> 00:44:33.360
would have a problem with it because his bandmates

00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:37.199
were there. So these guys were the real, just

00:44:37.199 --> 00:44:40.239
the, they were replacement people. Then they

00:44:40.239 --> 00:44:42.159
all got back together and did some more good

00:44:42.159 --> 00:44:44.539
music and then they did some not so good music.

00:44:45.340 --> 00:44:49.000
So if it was a music thing, wouldn't you be mad

00:44:49.000 --> 00:44:51.059
at yourself for putting out some subpar albums

00:44:51.059 --> 00:44:56.570
in the 90s and late 80s? Yeah, David Bowie apparently

00:44:56.570 --> 00:45:00.389
doesn't like his song, the one about Major Tom,

00:45:00.590 --> 00:45:05.110
Space Oddity. Yeah. He says, I did that to capitalize

00:45:05.110 --> 00:45:09.650
on a current news story, and I didn't put much

00:45:09.650 --> 00:45:11.289
thought and effort into it, and I'm embarrassed

00:45:11.289 --> 00:45:14.389
by it, but oh my God, everybody wants it. No,

00:45:14.570 --> 00:45:17.070
I know, that became maybe his most popular song.

00:45:17.150 --> 00:45:20.010
Yeah, but he really did not like that one. He's

00:45:20.010 --> 00:45:21.750
like, oh, I wish everyone would just forget that

00:45:21.750 --> 00:45:29.820
song. Yeah, well, I mean, that happens all the

00:45:29.820 --> 00:45:32.219
time, though. It's usually the songs that musicians

00:45:32.219 --> 00:45:35.019
hate become hits. Yeah, and there's been a lot

00:45:35.019 --> 00:45:36.840
of musicians who put out an album they're so

00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:40.920
proud of, and it tanks. And it sucks. Yeah. Well,

00:45:41.059 --> 00:45:43.460
it's typical overthinking. Yeah, I mean, when

00:45:43.460 --> 00:45:46.000
you're counting on other people to buy it, you've

00:45:46.000 --> 00:45:47.699
got to give them what they want, not what you

00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:52.360
want to give them. I always say the Malcolm Young.

00:45:53.019 --> 00:45:57.460
Mick Mars effect. Simplicity. Simplicity is the

00:45:57.460 --> 00:46:00.400
key. I don't care if it's a note. I don't care

00:46:00.400 --> 00:46:04.960
if it's a note and a minor chord. It doesn't

00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:08.059
matter. If it hits that sound, it sounds good.

00:46:08.809 --> 00:46:11.590
Don't fuck with it. You have musicians that go,

00:46:11.650 --> 00:46:13.889
I'm going to really show my talent on this album.

00:46:13.949 --> 00:46:16.389
Never buy that album. It's going to be full of

00:46:16.389 --> 00:46:17.949
horns that don't need to be there. It's going

00:46:17.949 --> 00:46:20.130
to be full of synthesizers that have no meaning.

00:46:20.349 --> 00:46:23.869
Yeah, endless solos, all sorts of self -indulgences.

00:46:24.289 --> 00:46:26.090
Yeah, and they want everyone to love it, and

00:46:26.090 --> 00:46:27.949
everyone's like, that doesn't sound like your

00:46:27.949 --> 00:46:30.170
hits. It's like, I'll listen to it every once

00:46:30.170 --> 00:46:32.590
in a while if you give it away, but I'm not buying

00:46:32.590 --> 00:46:34.210
that. Yeah, I'm definitely not going to go to

00:46:34.210 --> 00:46:38.389
concerts to see you doing that. I get it. I get

00:46:38.389 --> 00:46:41.070
it. I do, too. You got something else? Yeah.

00:46:42.769 --> 00:46:45.590
Do you remember the band Mumford & Sons? Yeah,

00:46:45.590 --> 00:46:49.170
yeah. They sing that kind of Irish folk. Yeah,

00:46:49.210 --> 00:46:53.849
kind of like that, yeah. There's an article where

00:46:53.849 --> 00:46:56.949
they released a new album recently, but the whole

00:46:56.949 --> 00:47:00.730
article was talking about how even though it

00:47:00.730 --> 00:47:03.429
debuted fairly high on the charts, it's their

00:47:03.429 --> 00:47:07.300
worst debut ever. And it's not selling, even

00:47:07.300 --> 00:47:09.320
though it is selling, it's not selling as well

00:47:09.320 --> 00:47:12.239
as they have in the past. That's a sophomore

00:47:12.239 --> 00:47:15.480
curse. It happens all the time in music. Yeah.

00:47:15.679 --> 00:47:18.260
The music scene changes just enough to where

00:47:18.260 --> 00:47:20.320
they come out with the same stuff and it doesn't

00:47:20.320 --> 00:47:24.119
hit. Yeah. Yeah, the band is thinking, well,

00:47:24.300 --> 00:47:26.320
you know, we think we're still just as good as

00:47:26.320 --> 00:47:28.079
we have. We like this material. I think we're

00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.559
doing well. And apparently they're doing okay.

00:47:33.199 --> 00:47:36.519
But... It seemed odd to me the article was really

00:47:36.519 --> 00:47:38.519
harping on the fact that, oh, they're slipping,

00:47:38.639 --> 00:47:40.119
they're not as good as they used to be, look

00:47:40.119 --> 00:47:42.699
how they're slipping. So I started thinking,

00:47:42.840 --> 00:47:45.340
is that the record label planting that story

00:47:45.340 --> 00:47:47.659
to try to get the band to go back to their winning

00:47:47.659 --> 00:47:54.900
formula? Okay, that could be nowadays, but I'll

00:47:54.900 --> 00:47:59.079
give you a great example. Quiet Riot, Condition

00:47:59.079 --> 00:48:03.079
Critical, $30 million. highly successful album,

00:48:03.139 --> 00:48:05.420
took the world by storm. I was like, what's this

00:48:05.420 --> 00:48:09.420
new metal stuff? What's this new glam stuff?

00:48:09.659 --> 00:48:11.679
Everyone started going that way, gravitating

00:48:11.679 --> 00:48:14.079
to it. Their second album, I forgot the name

00:48:14.079 --> 00:48:17.460
of it, it escapes me, sold five million, and

00:48:17.460 --> 00:48:20.940
that was a flop. And the reason is because the

00:48:20.940 --> 00:48:24.380
music scene changed a little, enough to where

00:48:24.380 --> 00:48:26.360
five million people liked it, which was not a

00:48:26.360 --> 00:48:31.090
flop. No. But... Compared to that debut, 50 Million,

00:48:31.269 --> 00:48:33.329
Come on, Feel the Noise, Mental Health, all that

00:48:33.329 --> 00:48:39.809
stuff, it didn't have the same punch because

00:48:39.809 --> 00:48:44.210
the music scene changed just enough. Yeah, especially

00:48:44.210 --> 00:48:47.369
if you're something so brand new, like some kind

00:48:47.369 --> 00:48:49.429
of sound or attitude that most people haven't

00:48:49.429 --> 00:48:51.269
heard of before. By the time your second album

00:48:51.269 --> 00:48:53.570
comes out, number one, they're familiar with

00:48:53.570 --> 00:48:55.989
it. Number two, there have been a dozen bands

00:48:55.989 --> 00:48:59.960
copying you in the meantime. So your second album

00:48:59.960 --> 00:49:03.460
has to be not more of the same old stuff. And

00:49:03.460 --> 00:49:06.619
then when they did another cover of Slade, that

00:49:06.619 --> 00:49:12.539
really iced them. Mama, we're all crazy now.

00:49:13.960 --> 00:49:18.380
It started out as Soul 5 Million, and I liked

00:49:18.380 --> 00:49:20.559
the album. It was good. It wasn't nearly as good

00:49:20.559 --> 00:49:22.719
as the first one, in my opinion. But the music

00:49:22.719 --> 00:49:25.000
scene went a little bit more glam. Now, Mumford

00:49:25.000 --> 00:49:27.099
& Son, I have a feeling what you're saying, that's

00:49:27.099 --> 00:49:32.320
true. Yeah, yeah. It doesn't seem like an article

00:49:32.320 --> 00:49:34.480
that was written by somebody who's interested

00:49:34.480 --> 00:49:37.300
in the success of the band. I agree. I agree.

00:49:37.619 --> 00:49:41.719
And I think that that was designed to get the

00:49:41.719 --> 00:49:47.340
band back on track as they see it. And as unpopular

00:49:47.340 --> 00:49:50.780
as Mumford & Sons is on my feed, the fact that

00:49:50.780 --> 00:49:55.309
it was pushed onto my feed, tells me that somebody

00:49:55.309 --> 00:49:58.110
paid for that article to be written and spread

00:49:58.110 --> 00:50:01.429
and put onto people's news feeds just to bring

00:50:01.429 --> 00:50:03.849
up Mumford & Son and say how badly they're doing

00:50:03.849 --> 00:50:08.610
now. It sounds like something to influence. Some

00:50:08.610 --> 00:50:11.809
record company probably overpaid for them. Yeah.

00:50:11.929 --> 00:50:15.030
And they expected more albums, and this one just

00:50:15.030 --> 00:50:17.619
flopped. Yeah. So they're like... We've got to

00:50:17.619 --> 00:50:20.480
try to get them back on track. Yeah, some sort

00:50:20.480 --> 00:50:23.159
of power struggle being played out. That's what

00:50:23.159 --> 00:50:25.460
it sounds like to me. What passes for the press.

00:50:25.880 --> 00:50:29.679
That's pretty much what I figured. I use that

00:50:29.679 --> 00:50:35.280
example because what did this latest album do?

00:50:35.500 --> 00:50:38.360
I know they don't sell nearly as much anymore.

00:50:38.460 --> 00:50:41.880
It's all internet. But was it comparable? I mean,

00:50:41.920 --> 00:50:44.840
$30 million and $5 million, if you look at it

00:50:44.840 --> 00:50:46.920
by numbers, it's like, oh, that's horrible. But

00:50:46.920 --> 00:50:50.760
if you look at it as success, that's fine. Yeah,

00:50:50.760 --> 00:50:54.300
if I make $10 million next year and the year

00:50:54.300 --> 00:50:58.500
after that I make $150 ,000, that's okay. $150

00:50:58.500 --> 00:51:00.619
,000 is still a shit ton of money. Yeah, you're

00:51:00.619 --> 00:51:03.880
not losing money. That's better than none. Yeah,

00:51:04.019 --> 00:51:05.940
I'd like to know the sales compared and see what

00:51:05.940 --> 00:51:12.619
they're saying there. Yeah. All right. Oh, I

00:51:12.619 --> 00:51:14.960
want to make a correction here. Yeah. Metal Health

00:51:14.960 --> 00:51:18.860
was Quiet Riot's first. Condition Critical was

00:51:18.860 --> 00:51:21.079
their second. Metal Health was the one that sold

00:51:21.079 --> 00:51:23.679
like $30 million. Blew up, yeah. Condition Critical

00:51:23.679 --> 00:51:28.480
sold $5 million. Yeah. Very respectable still.

00:51:28.679 --> 00:51:31.099
Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm saying is they called

00:51:31.099 --> 00:51:33.880
it a complete failure. It really wasn't. If they'd

00:51:33.880 --> 00:51:35.619
had that one first, it would be like, what a

00:51:35.619 --> 00:51:37.980
success. Yeah, yeah. And then they'd go to $30

00:51:37.980 --> 00:51:40.000
million from there, like, oh my, this band is

00:51:40.000 --> 00:51:42.219
off the hook. Yeah. That's a good point. If it

00:51:42.219 --> 00:51:43.559
would have been the other way around, people

00:51:43.559 --> 00:51:45.079
would have been like flipping out, going, oh

00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:49.639
my gosh. Let's buy stock in them. Yeah. How do

00:51:49.639 --> 00:51:53.539
you do that? I don't know. You can actually kind

00:51:53.539 --> 00:51:57.719
of own a band. There was a, I think a Dutch or

00:51:57.719 --> 00:52:01.639
Danish millionaire. who basically owned a super

00:52:01.639 --> 00:52:05.340
tramp. He funded them nonstop up until the point

00:52:05.340 --> 00:52:07.079
they got successful and couldn't make their own

00:52:07.079 --> 00:52:09.880
money. Yeah. But they never had to pay any of

00:52:09.880 --> 00:52:11.860
their bills. He believed in them so much, he

00:52:11.860 --> 00:52:15.519
just paid everything. And it was like five albums

00:52:15.519 --> 00:52:19.900
in before they had a success. This is in reverse,

00:52:20.019 --> 00:52:25.760
but Meachum, I forgot his first name, was Saba's

00:52:25.760 --> 00:52:32.110
first manager. And he pacified them. He was making

00:52:32.110 --> 00:52:34.730
all this money off of them. And he pacified them

00:52:34.730 --> 00:52:38.610
by, Ozzy go up and go, I want a Beamer. Okay.

00:52:39.510 --> 00:52:42.889
Go get him one. Yep. I want a, I don't know,

00:52:42.929 --> 00:52:45.389
whatever. I want to buy this. Okay. He go do

00:52:45.389 --> 00:52:48.289
it. They had no idea how much money he was making

00:52:48.289 --> 00:52:50.150
off of them. And he was just appeasing them because

00:52:50.150 --> 00:52:52.710
they never had anything before. Yeah. Yeah. They

00:52:52.710 --> 00:52:54.949
go, I want a. They figure, I must be rich. I

00:52:54.949 --> 00:52:57.960
get everything I asked for. Yes. And then they

00:52:57.960 --> 00:52:59.800
finally found out, wait a minute, this guy just

00:52:59.800 --> 00:53:02.880
goes and gets it like that. He must be making

00:53:02.880 --> 00:53:05.719
a shit ton of money off of us. And they finally,

00:53:05.860 --> 00:53:10.059
you know, that's how they caught on was he would

00:53:10.059 --> 00:53:15.260
just go buy anything. Let's see, you were going

00:53:15.260 --> 00:53:19.539
to go into another story. Yeah, I read about

00:53:19.539 --> 00:53:23.300
a dead musician whose body parts are still being

00:53:23.300 --> 00:53:26.420
used. to make music as part of an art exhibit.

00:53:28.039 --> 00:53:32.260
Creepy, huh? Okay. This is in Australia. Of course.

00:53:32.340 --> 00:53:36.940
There was a musician named Alvin Lucier who died

00:53:36.940 --> 00:53:40.900
in 2021. Now, before he died, he donated blood.

00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:45.059
And somebody went and got that blood. And you

00:53:45.059 --> 00:53:49.539
can manipulate blood, which is, blood is tissue.

00:53:49.659 --> 00:53:51.800
You can manipulate it to grow other kinds of

00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:55.780
tissue. and they managed to get it to grow this

00:53:55.780 --> 00:54:00.179
tiny little micro brain. It actually has functioning

00:54:00.179 --> 00:54:02.480
neurons the way a human brain is supposed to,

00:54:02.619 --> 00:54:05.860
but it's basically just a web of neurons that

00:54:05.860 --> 00:54:08.980
they call a little micro brain. And they've laid

00:54:08.980 --> 00:54:12.239
this over a sheet of electrodes, and every time

00:54:12.239 --> 00:54:15.659
one of the neurons fires, it triggers one of

00:54:15.659 --> 00:54:18.099
these electrodes, and it sends a signal out to

00:54:18.099 --> 00:54:21.099
a pneumatic hammer, which funks a piece of metal.

00:54:23.199 --> 00:54:25.860
Wow. So when you stand in the room with this

00:54:25.860 --> 00:54:29.340
thing, you hear hammers hitting pieces of metal,

00:54:29.400 --> 00:54:33.119
and each one is a brain cell firing in this thing.

00:54:33.400 --> 00:54:36.099
Is that how they write the music? That is supposed

00:54:36.099 --> 00:54:38.920
to be the music. The music. You go and listen

00:54:38.920 --> 00:54:41.380
to the clang, clang, clang, bing, bing, clang,

00:54:41.440 --> 00:54:43.760
clang, clang, clang. So basically it came up

00:54:43.760 --> 00:54:48.099
with a skeletal melody? Yeah. Wow. They're using

00:54:48.099 --> 00:54:54.199
artificially... and human -created fake body

00:54:54.199 --> 00:54:58.900
parts from a dead guy to get visitors to their

00:54:58.900 --> 00:55:02.659
art gallery. The little micro brain is intriguing

00:55:02.659 --> 00:55:06.199
enough, let alone getting music from it. But

00:55:06.199 --> 00:55:11.059
they're exploiting it for money. Damn, human

00:55:11.059 --> 00:55:12.199
rights laws. I'm surprised there isn't some lawsuits.

00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.639
I know human rights laws in Australia must be

00:55:14.639 --> 00:55:16.900
vastly different than here because I can't imagine

00:55:16.900 --> 00:55:19.639
something like that being allowed here. They

00:55:19.639 --> 00:55:22.619
would have to be. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, here there'd

00:55:22.619 --> 00:55:24.619
be so many lawsuits. They'd be like, no, no,

00:55:24.659 --> 00:55:27.880
no, that's our property because, you know, whatever.

00:55:28.219 --> 00:55:30.420
The way they get around it is, well, he donated

00:55:30.420 --> 00:55:33.280
the blood. The blood isn't him. Therefore, since

00:55:33.280 --> 00:55:36.380
he willingly and freely gave it away, then we

00:55:36.380 --> 00:55:39.239
get it. Like you said. Like you said, the laws

00:55:39.239 --> 00:55:41.219
are completely different in Australia because

00:55:41.219 --> 00:55:44.119
that would never fly here. Well, it would until

00:55:44.119 --> 00:55:48.719
someone caught up with a family member. Yeah,

00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:50.400
it's probably been tried over and over here,

00:55:50.539 --> 00:55:52.599
but it's been stopped. A record company would

00:55:52.599 --> 00:55:55.039
come back and go, well, he was signed under us.

00:55:55.539 --> 00:55:58.099
That's our music. Exactly. Yeah, we know you

00:55:58.099 --> 00:56:00.460
came up with it. We know you come up with a system,

00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:02.760
but that's ours. Yeah. I could see that happening.

00:56:02.760 --> 00:56:05.260
I could see that being a court case. I could

00:56:05.260 --> 00:56:07.980
too, and I could see the court case ruling. for

00:56:07.980 --> 00:56:10.019
the record company since they owed him the rights.

00:56:10.159 --> 00:56:12.880
And you could say, well, the guy died. Well,

00:56:13.019 --> 00:56:15.500
this is living tissue from him that isn't dead,

00:56:15.619 --> 00:56:18.599
so in a way he's continued, and this living tissue

00:56:18.599 --> 00:56:20.840
from him is producing music, therefore we own

00:56:20.840 --> 00:56:23.519
the rights to that. Yeah. I could see lawyers

00:56:23.519 --> 00:56:25.639
getting very rich arguing that over and over.

00:56:25.719 --> 00:56:28.920
I could too. I could too. I mean, we live in

00:56:28.920 --> 00:56:32.159
a litigious society where someone can do an invention

00:56:32.159 --> 00:56:35.849
that's already been trademarked. and keep producing

00:56:35.849 --> 00:56:38.190
it and producing it for years, and then the trademark

00:56:38.190 --> 00:56:41.909
owner can come back and get all his money. All

00:56:41.909 --> 00:56:45.809
right, you got anything else? The last little

00:56:45.809 --> 00:56:51.730
thing I had was the who firing their drummer

00:56:51.730 --> 00:56:56.690
and rehiring him. Yeah, yeah. That was a bunch

00:56:56.690 --> 00:56:59.969
of bullshit, it sounds like. Yeah, so it was

00:56:59.969 --> 00:57:03.599
on day one. Well, let's see. The evening of the

00:57:03.599 --> 00:57:06.719
concert, Roger Daltrey, at the end of the show,

00:57:06.800 --> 00:57:10.760
interrupts a song and says, I'm sorry, I can't

00:57:10.760 --> 00:57:13.179
sing this. In order to sing this, I have to hear

00:57:13.179 --> 00:57:16.400
the key, by which he means hear the other notes

00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.480
so he can sing in tune. But all I hear is the

00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.619
drums going boom, boom, boom, and I can't sing

00:57:21.619 --> 00:57:25.679
to that. So he calls the drummer out in front

00:57:25.679 --> 00:57:31.449
of the whole audience for playing too loud. Yeah,

00:57:31.530 --> 00:57:33.190
yeah, yeah. Or at the very least calling out

00:57:33.190 --> 00:57:36.630
the sound guy for doing the mix wrong. The one

00:57:36.630 --> 00:57:39.210
that I read was the sound guy, but then it evolved

00:57:39.210 --> 00:57:43.429
into the drummer. But go ahead. And then immediately

00:57:43.429 --> 00:57:47.070
after the show, there were accusations that Daltrey

00:57:47.070 --> 00:57:51.230
made about the drummer plays too much. It's like,

00:57:51.269 --> 00:57:54.130
excuse me, he's playing for Keith Moon. How would

00:57:54.130 --> 00:57:56.980
he know? He can't hear. Yeah, I know. But when

00:57:56.980 --> 00:57:59.539
you're drumming Who songs, especially the ones

00:57:59.539 --> 00:58:02.679
that Keith Moon originated, playing too much

00:58:02.679 --> 00:58:05.619
is what you do. That was Keith Moon's whole thing

00:58:05.619 --> 00:58:09.019
is he played all the time. I don't get that at

00:58:09.019 --> 00:58:12.000
all. And then they say, well, he's fired. And

00:58:12.000 --> 00:58:14.019
this is Zach Starkey, the son of Ringo Starr.

00:58:14.099 --> 00:58:17.260
And he's been with the band for 29 years and

00:58:17.260 --> 00:58:21.699
change. That sounds to me like a personal difference

00:58:21.699 --> 00:58:23.920
or something happened behind the scenes. Yep.

00:58:24.280 --> 00:58:27.139
And Roger Daltrey put it to this when it actually

00:58:27.139 --> 00:58:31.860
is not there. Yeah. And then during the next

00:58:31.860 --> 00:58:35.559
day when this reported, by that afternoon, there

00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:39.139
were so many people pointing out, including people

00:58:39.139 --> 00:58:42.199
who had worked on that Who Tour or other Who

00:58:42.199 --> 00:58:46.000
Tours previously, said, number one, Roger Daltrey

00:58:46.000 --> 00:58:49.739
has in -ear monitors. Yes. So you don't hear

00:58:49.739 --> 00:58:51.880
a damn thing except what's in those monitors.

00:58:52.519 --> 00:58:56.380
So that's the sound guy, not the drummer. Number

00:58:56.380 --> 00:59:01.059
two, all of Zach Starkey's drums are silent drums

00:59:01.059 --> 00:59:03.360
with electronic triggers. They look like real

00:59:03.360 --> 00:59:05.840
drums and cymbals, but they're all electronically

00:59:05.840 --> 00:59:07.940
triggered. That's a good point. So when they're

00:59:07.940 --> 00:59:09.679
hitting them on stage, they sound like this.

00:59:12.099 --> 00:59:13.719
That's about all the sound you get out of them.

00:59:15.300 --> 00:59:19.340
He could not have heard that. No. And even people

00:59:19.340 --> 00:59:21.480
are talking about, well, yeah, that's the center

00:59:21.480 --> 00:59:23.239
of the stage, and it's tricky to balance the

00:59:23.239 --> 00:59:26.639
sound there. Well, he's got in -ear monitors.

00:59:26.940 --> 00:59:30.280
He's only hearing what the sound board is sending

00:59:30.280 --> 00:59:32.179
him. It doesn't matter where he's standing on

00:59:32.179 --> 00:59:35.280
the stage. He's only hearing what the sound man

00:59:35.280 --> 00:59:39.139
is sending him. Yes. And then another... thing

00:59:39.139 --> 00:59:41.699
was they could put barriers up in front of the

00:59:41.699 --> 00:59:43.880
drums. If you ever see a church band, they always

00:59:43.880 --> 00:59:46.139
have a barrier up in front of the drums to contain

00:59:46.139 --> 00:59:50.880
that sound. They could have done that. You don't

00:59:50.880 --> 00:59:53.639
call them out in the middle of a concert. No,

00:59:53.639 --> 00:59:56.940
that's forbidden. Yeah. So the whole thing just

00:59:56.940 --> 01:00:00.179
stinks of he doesn't like the drummer, he's got

01:00:00.179 --> 01:00:02.559
a beef with the drummer, he's blaming him for

01:00:02.559 --> 01:00:04.460
something that isn't the drummer's fault and

01:00:04.460 --> 01:00:08.280
isn't even really a problem because... Everyone's

01:00:08.280 --> 01:00:10.360
listed several ways that you immediately fix

01:00:10.360 --> 01:00:13.099
that, so it never would have been a problem that

01:00:13.099 --> 01:00:16.119
he's hearing too much drums. It's all a lie.

01:00:16.199 --> 01:00:17.940
He doesn't like the drummer. He wanted to get

01:00:17.940 --> 01:00:22.480
rid of him. And then the next day, Pete Townsend...

01:00:22.480 --> 01:00:24.119
I'm sorry, I'm interrupting you. Pete Townsend

01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.199
releases... The first is Roger Daltrey bitching

01:00:27.199 --> 01:00:30.440
and bitching and firing him. And then the next...

01:00:30.619 --> 01:00:33.219
time we hear it's pete townsend saying oh no

01:00:33.219 --> 01:00:36.179
no no he's he's still in the band you know we

01:00:36.179 --> 01:00:38.960
we love him and it was just some disputes and

01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.260
we resolved everything and sorry it all got blown

01:00:41.260 --> 01:00:43.960
out of proportion blah blah blah i think real

01:00:43.960 --> 01:00:46.860
roger daltrey just doesn't like the guy wanted

01:00:46.860 --> 01:00:49.159
him out of the band and figured i'm going to

01:00:49.159 --> 01:00:51.820
blow this up on stage so this way they have to

01:00:51.820 --> 01:00:54.219
get rid of them and pete townsend found a way

01:00:54.219 --> 01:00:56.519
to smooth it over Well, they had to because,

01:00:56.619 --> 01:00:59.679
I mean, Daltrey's done after this anyhow. Absolutely.

01:00:59.679 --> 01:01:01.719
He's going blind and deaf. He's becoming a real

01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:04.159
-life Tommy as he jumped around. But I'll get

01:01:04.159 --> 01:01:07.639
to that here in a minute. This reminds me a little

01:01:07.639 --> 01:01:11.000
bit, remind me to go back to Pete Townsend and

01:01:11.000 --> 01:01:12.960
Roger Daltrey because I have something on that

01:01:12.960 --> 01:01:19.420
too. So, okay. Axl Rose, it was in St. Louis,

01:01:19.699 --> 01:01:23.539
jumped down on stage. He was pissed off. bad

01:01:23.539 --> 01:01:25.860
at slashing duck because they're fucked up yeah

01:01:25.860 --> 01:01:29.420
and he told everybody he said these two guys

01:01:29.420 --> 01:01:32.559
right here are fucking assholes they don't take

01:01:32.559 --> 01:01:35.480
what we do seriously they're smashed and i'm

01:01:35.480 --> 01:01:37.559
not going to sit up here and fucking play because

01:01:37.559 --> 01:01:40.199
they're making a mockery of what we do and it

01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:43.000
almost caused a riot oh wow people are like throwing

01:01:43.000 --> 01:01:45.639
chairs and screaming at them and stuff And the

01:01:45.639 --> 01:01:48.679
press reported it as just yelling at his bandmates,

01:01:48.719 --> 01:01:50.760
not what he was saying. No, he was calling it

01:01:50.760 --> 01:01:54.000
out. He made it sound like Axl's fault. I'm not

01:01:54.000 --> 01:01:56.800
saying that Axl was valid in his criticisms,

01:01:56.820 --> 01:02:00.039
but the way he handled it was bad. That was another

01:02:00.039 --> 01:02:01.699
time I could think of someone coming out and

01:02:01.699 --> 01:02:04.119
mouthing off, but they did the same thing. Slash

01:02:04.119 --> 01:02:06.400
and Duff, oh, that's just Axl. He was just joking

01:02:06.400 --> 01:02:08.719
around. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. He was

01:02:08.719 --> 01:02:13.880
pissed. He was. So I guess that does happen.

01:02:14.489 --> 01:02:16.530
Not that often, but whenever it does, it's like

01:02:16.530 --> 01:02:19.130
the other side has to poo -poo it away. Oh, that's

01:02:19.130 --> 01:02:21.710
nothing. It's like when Dave Navarro took a swing

01:02:21.710 --> 01:02:27.590
and punched out Perry Farrell in a James Addiction

01:02:27.590 --> 01:02:30.019
concert. It's like it had gotten to the point

01:02:30.019 --> 01:02:32.519
so bad that he was actually punching him on stage

01:02:32.519 --> 01:02:34.519
and there's taking swings. Even the guys, those

01:02:34.519 --> 01:02:36.539
roadies who were dragging Perry Furrow off the

01:02:36.539 --> 01:02:38.599
stage started taking swings at him because everyone

01:02:38.599 --> 01:02:40.800
hates him so much. Oh, yeah. But the very next

01:02:40.800 --> 01:02:42.179
day it was like, oh, it was a misunderstanding.

01:02:42.780 --> 01:02:44.280
That's what I was getting ready to say. That's

01:02:44.280 --> 01:02:46.800
exactly what they did. They go, oh, he's just,

01:02:46.900 --> 01:02:49.360
he's temperamental. We love him. The immediate

01:02:49.360 --> 01:02:52.480
spin. Yes. I hate that immediate spin. Yeah.

01:02:52.719 --> 01:02:56.199
Everybody knows better. Why do they even bother?

01:02:56.400 --> 01:02:57.699
Does anyone believe it? No, that's what I'm saying.

01:02:58.030 --> 01:03:00.289
Why would you even bother? Because nobody believes

01:03:00.289 --> 01:03:02.530
it anyhow, obviously. It's like those stupid

01:03:02.530 --> 01:03:04.929
groundbreaking ceremonies. Does anyone really

01:03:04.929 --> 01:03:07.230
think these people are breaking the ground and

01:03:07.230 --> 01:03:10.329
causing this to start? No. This is just bullshit.

01:03:10.730 --> 01:03:13.349
I mean, I'm surprised they're not plastic shovels.

01:03:13.369 --> 01:03:17.789
Yeah, really. Or I'll go, hey, assistant. Dig.

01:03:19.980 --> 01:03:21.780
Well, with you, most of the times they bring

01:03:21.780 --> 01:03:24.079
a backhoe in and dig up some soil and make it

01:03:24.079 --> 01:03:25.920
nice and soft, and that's where they can stick

01:03:25.920 --> 01:03:28.119
their shovels into. I want one of them to hit

01:03:28.119 --> 01:03:30.900
a rock and hurt themselves. I want one of them

01:03:30.900 --> 01:03:35.679
to hit a landmine. Yes. Oops. Or a water main,

01:03:35.739 --> 01:03:37.460
at least a water main. At least a water main,

01:03:37.500 --> 01:03:40.780
yeah. All right, I could go for that. It's been

01:03:40.780 --> 01:03:42.840
a nice rain coming down here. It is. It smells

01:03:42.840 --> 01:03:46.579
great, doesn't it? It does. Okay, Pete Towne

01:03:46.579 --> 01:03:52.460
said Roger Daltrey. Pete Townsend had a bionic

01:03:52.460 --> 01:03:56.440
ear years ago because he was going deaf. Yeah.

01:03:57.420 --> 01:04:00.980
I wonder how come Roger Galtry's not talking

01:04:00.980 --> 01:04:09.320
that. Interesting. You think, well, going blind

01:04:09.320 --> 01:04:11.860
for one thing would suck, yeah. And he probably

01:04:11.860 --> 01:04:14.440
wouldn't want to be on stage, you know. Yeah.

01:04:14.920 --> 01:04:18.179
I get that. But he didn't say anything about

01:04:18.179 --> 01:04:20.500
anything medical trying to do that. He kind of

01:04:20.500 --> 01:04:22.500
acted like he was just going to become a recluse

01:04:22.500 --> 01:04:27.199
almost in a statement. There's a really good

01:04:27.199 --> 01:04:31.579
movie out that talks about the cochlear implant

01:04:31.579 --> 01:04:36.099
to get certain deaf people their hearing. The

01:04:36.099 --> 01:04:40.840
movie's called The Sound of Metal. and the lead

01:04:40.840 --> 01:04:43.420
character is the drummer in a heavy metal group

01:04:43.420 --> 01:04:45.559
who loses his hearing, and then he's got to deal

01:04:45.559 --> 01:04:47.239
with it. I remember a little bit about that,

01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:50.400
yeah. And eventually they give an example of

01:04:50.400 --> 01:04:54.460
kind of how the cochlear implant works. You're

01:04:54.460 --> 01:04:57.900
not really hearing what's going on. The implant

01:04:57.900 --> 01:05:00.699
is hearing it. It's telling a computer chip,

01:05:00.760 --> 01:05:03.199
and the computer chip is guessing that that's

01:05:03.199 --> 01:05:06.219
what it would sound like and creating those signals

01:05:06.219 --> 01:05:09.539
for your brain. So it's nothing like what you're

01:05:09.539 --> 01:05:11.639
hearing, but you can kind of get an idea of what

01:05:11.639 --> 01:05:13.980
you're actually hearing. Like, oh yeah, it's

01:05:13.980 --> 01:05:16.280
a car horn. But you're not really hearing the

01:05:16.280 --> 01:05:18.659
car horn, you're hearing the computer's interpretation

01:05:18.659 --> 01:05:21.559
of what it probably sounds like. I wonder how

01:05:21.559 --> 01:05:25.380
Townsend plays them. I think he uses that mostly

01:05:25.380 --> 01:05:27.840
for a sense of timing, like a metronome. And

01:05:27.840 --> 01:05:29.920
that's it, okay. And like Beethoven, he hears

01:05:29.920 --> 01:05:31.920
the notes in his head, and he plays along with

01:05:31.920 --> 01:05:34.059
the music that's going along in his head. He

01:05:34.059 --> 01:05:36.440
just needs that external timekeeping. Okay, and

01:05:36.440 --> 01:05:40.039
that just helps him do what he does. He doesn't

01:05:40.039 --> 01:05:42.440
hear it per se like that, but that's what helps

01:05:42.440 --> 01:05:45.019
him with the timing. But I think Daltrey needs

01:05:45.019 --> 01:05:47.599
to hear himself sing in order to hit the right

01:05:47.599 --> 01:05:50.099
note. That's the difference. So he needs to hear

01:05:50.099 --> 01:05:52.239
it. He needs to know exactly what note he's hitting.

01:05:52.300 --> 01:05:54.739
There's no way. Oh, he's singing it. Cochlear

01:05:54.739 --> 01:05:56.559
implants just can't do that. You would sound

01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.559
horrible if you couldn't hear yourself sing.

01:05:58.760 --> 01:06:03.039
Yeah, it would be different from when you hear

01:06:03.039 --> 01:06:05.960
deaf people speaking aloud, but it would be along

01:06:05.960 --> 01:06:09.300
those lines of you really don't have a full grasp

01:06:09.300 --> 01:06:12.300
of what sounds you're making. So you're making

01:06:12.300 --> 01:06:14.199
a lot of sounds you don't intend, and you're

01:06:14.199 --> 01:06:18.260
not making sounds you think you are. Nobody's

01:06:18.260 --> 01:06:19.719
going to pay to hear a person sing like that.

01:06:19.719 --> 01:06:22.760
It would be a disaster. So I don't think the

01:06:22.760 --> 01:06:25.280
implants are going to work for Roger. Okay, you

01:06:25.280 --> 01:06:28.260
just made sense of it then. But then I also attributed

01:06:28.260 --> 01:06:30.760
the blind thing too, because would you really

01:06:30.760 --> 01:06:34.300
want to be out on stage blind? I mean, you couldn't

01:06:34.300 --> 01:06:37.179
see the crowd. You know, that's something that

01:06:37.179 --> 01:06:39.559
I thought about. You know, if I lose my sight,

01:06:39.659 --> 01:06:42.179
I can still play, but I would never be able to

01:06:42.179 --> 01:06:44.460
see the visual cues from the other players on

01:06:44.460 --> 01:06:47.199
stage. Yeah, that would be rough. You would never

01:06:47.199 --> 01:06:50.340
be able to improv. unless you've got somebody

01:06:50.340 --> 01:06:52.539
in your ear and through headphones saying, okay,

01:06:52.579 --> 01:06:55.099
here's what we're doing next. Yeah, and that

01:06:55.099 --> 01:06:58.099
wouldn't be very much fun. That would be more

01:06:58.099 --> 01:07:02.159
like a chore than actually doing music. So Daltrey

01:07:02.159 --> 01:07:05.559
could sing and perform live blind, but it would

01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:09.280
have to be the exact same stage set up and everything

01:07:09.280 --> 01:07:12.340
else pretty much the same because changing things

01:07:12.340 --> 01:07:14.760
on the fly, how do you communicate that to him

01:07:14.760 --> 01:07:16.519
when he already can't hear very well and now

01:07:16.519 --> 01:07:19.469
he can't sing? Yeah, it would be really tough.

01:07:19.630 --> 01:07:22.869
The logistics just don't work out. No. It reminds

01:07:22.869 --> 01:07:25.530
me of something there, totally off base of what

01:07:25.530 --> 01:07:28.110
we're talking about, but when I get back, I need

01:07:28.110 --> 01:07:30.250
to bring my guitar down, and we need to figure

01:07:30.250 --> 01:07:32.710
out that floor drum. Oh, yeah, that tremolo.

01:07:32.909 --> 01:07:36.570
Yeah, I had it tuned in again, but when you play

01:07:36.570 --> 01:07:38.869
it a little bit, you have to have it fine -tuned

01:07:38.869 --> 01:07:41.829
to lock it in. If not, it goes out real easy.

01:07:42.130 --> 01:07:46.750
You're close. You are actually in tune, but barely.

01:07:47.119 --> 01:07:49.760
You know, you don't have that definite... It's

01:07:49.760 --> 01:07:51.900
enough to really throw it off. Yeah, you got

01:07:51.900 --> 01:07:55.239
that... Yeah. I guess that's the way to describe

01:07:55.239 --> 01:08:01.320
it. You got that... Not that... If you tune guitars,

01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:03.340
you know what I'm talking about. If not, then

01:08:03.340 --> 01:08:06.539
just move along. At least you've got a Floyd

01:08:06.539 --> 01:08:10.440
Rose and not a collar. K -A -H -L -E -R. Oh,

01:08:10.440 --> 01:08:12.900
those things are garbage. Oh, my God. Those are

01:08:12.900 --> 01:08:14.840
the worst. Yeah, because they had the Kaler,

01:08:14.840 --> 01:08:18.199
and then they had the Kaler Tremolo. Yeah. And

01:08:18.199 --> 01:08:20.319
that thing was horrible because it never did

01:08:20.319 --> 01:08:23.600
work. Never did. No. It was a cheaper alternative,

01:08:23.680 --> 01:08:27.180
but it just didn't work. Floyd Rose II. after

01:08:27.180 --> 01:08:29.039
they got it figured out after the first couple

01:08:29.039 --> 01:08:31.439
of years, it works and it works well, but you

01:08:31.439 --> 01:08:34.100
have to figure out how to do it. And it's kind

01:08:34.100 --> 01:08:35.960
of a pain in the ass to do it too. There's a

01:08:35.960 --> 01:08:38.859
lot of extra moving parts. I mean, I'm pretty

01:08:38.859 --> 01:08:40.840
sure someone like Richie Blackmore would benefit

01:08:40.840 --> 01:08:44.220
from that because he plays the tremolo a lot,

01:08:44.319 --> 01:08:48.119
especially on his solos. And that would keep

01:08:48.119 --> 01:08:51.500
his guitar in tune. But he's also figured out

01:08:51.500 --> 01:08:53.340
a really unique way to play when he's out of

01:08:53.340 --> 01:08:55.279
tune, too. He plays it slightly different when

01:08:55.279 --> 01:08:57.439
he's out of tune. Yeah, he can bend it back into

01:08:57.439 --> 01:09:00.119
tune. Yes. You've got to have perfect pitch pretty

01:09:00.119 --> 01:09:03.539
much to do that. I couldn't do it, but he could.

01:09:04.060 --> 01:09:07.079
There's another option called the Evertune Bridge.

01:09:07.819 --> 01:09:10.399
I've heard of it, but I'm not real familiar with

01:09:10.399 --> 01:09:14.699
it. Yeah, it's only useful on guitars with the

01:09:14.699 --> 01:09:17.180
tremolo system. Actually, it's a vibrato, but

01:09:17.180 --> 01:09:19.590
everyone calls it a tremolo. The whammy bar.

01:09:19.850 --> 01:09:23.090
The whammy bar. You know what? That was an 80s

01:09:23.090 --> 01:09:25.449
thing. Yes. The whammy bar. Nowadays they go,

01:09:25.529 --> 01:09:28.810
what the hell? Is that a gay bar? No, no, no,

01:09:28.890 --> 01:09:32.310
no. So what this Evertune bridge does, it's got

01:09:32.310 --> 01:09:34.289
a whole series of springs in the back of the

01:09:34.289 --> 01:09:38.710
guitar like the trim system does, except you

01:09:38.710 --> 01:09:41.909
adjust it before you get your guitar string tuned,

01:09:42.050 --> 01:09:45.109
and then you adjust the tension on that spring.

01:09:45.739 --> 01:09:48.279
And then no matter what you do with that string,

01:09:48.520 --> 01:09:51.600
the spring is going to keep that tension identical,

01:09:51.880 --> 01:09:54.340
so it never goes out of tune. You could bend

01:09:54.340 --> 01:09:58.000
the string all the way up the neck, and the tone

01:09:58.000 --> 01:10:00.659
wouldn't change because the spring is compensating.

01:10:03.180 --> 01:10:07.939
Yeah. You'd have no personality at all. No, every

01:10:07.939 --> 01:10:11.399
note is played exactly, you know. Imagine Ace

01:10:11.399 --> 01:10:15.649
Freely. Yeah, no bending, none at all. There's

01:10:15.649 --> 01:10:19.510
so many people, so many great guitarists. You

01:10:19.510 --> 01:10:24.210
recognize them by their chord bending. I'm trying

01:10:24.210 --> 01:10:25.970
to think of guitar players that just really don't

01:10:25.970 --> 01:10:28.010
bend. I'm thinking Dream Theater's guitar player,

01:10:28.090 --> 01:10:30.310
John Petrucci. He has no room at all. He doesn't

01:10:30.310 --> 01:10:34.350
bend anywhere. Rhythm guitar players generally

01:10:34.350 --> 01:10:36.970
don't do a lot of bending. Tony Iommi doesn't

01:10:36.970 --> 01:10:41.050
do a lot. He's straightforward. He's got a pattern

01:10:41.050 --> 01:10:46.210
to his music. Let's see. Richie Blackmore doesn't

01:10:46.210 --> 01:10:50.850
that much. He uses a treble a lot. Mick Mars.

01:10:52.029 --> 01:10:56.229
No, no, no. No? No, he had a couple albums. He

01:10:56.229 --> 01:10:58.710
uses the slide, but not so much the bending.

01:10:59.430 --> 01:11:03.149
And with the Nevertune Bridge, I think it's got

01:11:03.149 --> 01:11:05.989
the option to lock it so you can use the whammy

01:11:05.989 --> 01:11:09.289
bar. Malcolm Young. Yep, Malcolm Young. Because

01:11:09.289 --> 01:11:13.579
Angus did all the bending. Yeah. Malcolm just

01:11:13.579 --> 01:11:15.699
sat back there doing the rhythm, which is straightforward.

01:11:16.180 --> 01:11:18.500
Yeah. What were you saying? I'm sorry. I said,

01:11:18.520 --> 01:11:20.319
you know, with the Evertune bridge in place,

01:11:20.380 --> 01:11:22.260
you hit that whammy bar and the springs are going

01:11:22.260 --> 01:11:25.159
to compensate. Your whammy bar doesn't do anything.

01:11:25.439 --> 01:11:27.899
So I think you can hit a lock button and now

01:11:27.899 --> 01:11:30.699
your whammy works. Yeah. And then you unlock

01:11:30.699 --> 01:11:32.739
it when you're done and the springs go back to

01:11:32.739 --> 01:11:34.420
compensating and you're right back in perfect

01:11:34.420 --> 01:11:36.500
tune and you stay in perfect tune no matter what.

01:11:37.260 --> 01:11:39.640
That would make sense. Yeah. They're expensive.

01:11:39.800 --> 01:11:41.970
They're a little heavy. And then you've got to

01:11:41.970 --> 01:11:44.850
do all the adjustment. And if you change string

01:11:44.850 --> 01:11:47.470
gauges or string length, you've got to do it

01:11:47.470 --> 01:11:52.029
all over again. I see it on some higher -end

01:11:52.029 --> 01:11:54.789
guitarists. I like the imperfect way. I mean,

01:11:54.810 --> 01:11:57.010
you listen to some of the great guitarists that

01:11:57.010 --> 01:12:00.750
wrote great songs. I don't know about their virtuoso

01:12:00.750 --> 01:12:02.689
stuff and all that. But, yeah, I mean, like a

01:12:02.689 --> 01:12:05.369
Joe Perry or a Brad Whitford or somebody like

01:12:05.369 --> 01:12:09.710
that. They don't slash. They don't sound perfect.

01:12:10.119 --> 01:12:13.500
By any means. Even Zach Wild, as good as he is,

01:12:13.659 --> 01:12:16.340
he likes a little sloppiness on his stuff, too.

01:12:16.539 --> 01:12:19.739
Stephen Clark for Def Leppard. Jimmy Page. Jimmy

01:12:19.739 --> 01:12:22.199
Page, yeah. He's sloppy as hell, but it sounds

01:12:22.199 --> 01:12:24.680
good. It sounds good. Doesn't matter. Like I

01:12:24.680 --> 01:12:28.119
said, some of his best stuff, like, is it Trampled

01:12:28.119 --> 01:12:30.520
Underfoot? It sounds like he just takes a fucking

01:12:30.520 --> 01:12:32.199
guitar and throws it on the ground, and then

01:12:32.199 --> 01:12:35.350
he goes from there. Yeah. His guitar is what's

01:12:35.350 --> 01:12:38.750
trampled underfoot. Yeah. I think that's why

01:12:38.750 --> 01:12:41.189
he did it. He was like, well, trampled underfoot.

01:12:41.970 --> 01:12:49.310
Oh, I got it. So, yeah. And Jimmy Page could

01:12:49.310 --> 01:12:56.229
not play. He could not play clean. No, a little

01:12:56.229 --> 01:12:59.170
sharp, choppy, precise, picking the way Eddie

01:12:59.170 --> 01:13:03.239
Van Halen did. That wasn't his thing. He probably

01:13:03.239 --> 01:13:05.420
didn't even want to. Oh, yeah. And that's where

01:13:05.420 --> 01:13:07.359
I wanted to go into. This is going to be hard

01:13:07.359 --> 01:13:09.180
to figure out, but there's bands that have done

01:13:09.180 --> 01:13:14.899
this. The Yardbirds, Eric Clapton, then Jeff

01:13:14.899 --> 01:13:18.380
Beck. Jeff Beck turned it over to the new Yardbirds

01:13:18.380 --> 01:13:21.619
and had Jimmy Page come in. Yeah. Okay. Jeff

01:13:21.619 --> 01:13:24.420
Beck or Eric Clapton could not stay in Led Zeppelin.

01:13:25.220 --> 01:13:30.079
No. They just didn't. They don't have that type

01:13:30.079 --> 01:13:35.130
of a plan. I want to go into bands that had guitarists

01:13:35.130 --> 01:13:39.909
that went into bands that no one else could fill

01:13:39.909 --> 01:13:43.810
the void. So it had to be a band that was in

01:13:43.810 --> 01:13:46.029
existence. They got rid of their guitarists.

01:13:46.170 --> 01:13:48.850
And then the next one came in. It's a complete

01:13:48.850 --> 01:13:51.250
flop. And it's because they couldn't duplicate

01:13:51.250 --> 01:13:55.149
the sound. And this is going by something that

01:13:55.149 --> 01:13:58.829
never happened. Jeff Beck stepped down to do

01:13:58.829 --> 01:14:03.420
his solo stuff. and he referred Jimmy Page. So

01:14:03.420 --> 01:14:06.039
the New Yardbirds were so different, they had

01:14:06.039 --> 01:14:10.260
to come up with another name. Yeah. I'm trying

01:14:10.260 --> 01:14:11.920
to think of how Led Zeppelin would have turned

01:14:11.920 --> 01:14:15.079
out if Jeff Beckett stayed in the band. A bit

01:14:15.079 --> 01:14:18.939
more bluesy. Yeah, same with Clapton. All those

01:14:18.939 --> 01:14:21.359
earlier albums, it was Page and Plant writing

01:14:21.359 --> 01:14:24.199
the songs, and then eventually he turned over

01:14:24.199 --> 01:14:27.420
songwriting to John Paul Jones, who wrote songs

01:14:27.420 --> 01:14:31.010
on piano, not on guitar. And you could tell a

01:14:31.010 --> 01:14:33.590
lot of their songs. Big shift in the way the

01:14:33.590 --> 01:14:36.029
songs were written. They were still good. It

01:14:36.029 --> 01:14:41.850
just wasn't so dark. And you can tell that you

01:14:41.850 --> 01:14:44.449
can easily see how so much of the early Zeppelin

01:14:44.449 --> 01:14:46.609
sound was because of Jimmy Jones, because he

01:14:46.609 --> 01:14:49.090
was not only playing it, he was writing it. So

01:14:49.090 --> 01:14:52.630
if it was Clapton or Beck writing it and playing

01:14:52.630 --> 01:14:55.649
it... It would have been such a different vibe,

01:14:55.869 --> 01:14:57.590
different scene. They wouldn't have had the long

01:14:57.590 --> 01:15:00.449
heroine guitar solos. No, like, how about Dazed

01:15:00.449 --> 01:15:03.689
and Confused? Wow, I don't know that that even

01:15:03.689 --> 01:15:07.229
really would have worked without Paige. No, he

01:15:07.229 --> 01:15:12.250
was so... The feeling. Yeah. And the song title.

01:15:12.470 --> 01:15:16.930
Yeah. It just went hand in hand. Yeah. Yeah,

01:15:16.949 --> 01:15:20.010
that's the perfect meeting of material and artist.

01:15:20.210 --> 01:15:25.260
Yes, and like I said, Sloppy, but no one else

01:15:25.260 --> 01:15:27.979
could have done that. And that was pretty much

01:15:27.979 --> 01:15:31.859
their signature song at the first. Bad in Good

01:15:31.859 --> 01:15:34.279
Times, Bad Times, I believe, was also the Zeppelin

01:15:34.279 --> 01:15:37.460
one. I always wanted to hear When the Levee Breaks

01:15:37.460 --> 01:15:40.619
a lot more often than I did. They'd play all

01:15:40.619 --> 01:15:42.899
these Zeppelin songs I'd heard a million times.

01:15:43.000 --> 01:15:45.579
It was like, play I'm Gonna Crawl. I like that

01:15:45.579 --> 01:15:48.380
one. I love that one, too. Or how about Ron Y

01:15:48.380 --> 01:15:53.149
.R. Stump? Yeah. How? No one can tell me exactly

01:15:53.149 --> 01:15:55.409
how that's supposed to be pronounced. It's probably

01:15:55.409 --> 01:15:58.729
Gaelic. That's what I was thinking, too. The

01:15:58.729 --> 01:16:02.430
closest Harvard is Brawn -y -ar. Or Brawn -y

01:16:02.430 --> 01:16:06.689
-ar. Yeah, yeah. Someone said it was like Brownstomp

01:16:06.689 --> 01:16:10.210
or Brawnstomp or something like that. Yeah, there's

01:16:10.210 --> 01:16:13.380
a lot of times the words are... Like, we don't

01:16:13.380 --> 01:16:16.239
say Worcestershire, we say Worcestershire. Worcestershire.

01:16:16.500 --> 01:16:19.720
Worcestershire, yeah. Gloucester, Massachusetts

01:16:19.720 --> 01:16:23.159
is pronounced Gloucester. That's right. But it's

01:16:23.159 --> 01:16:28.199
spelled Gloucester. Yeah, yeah. So, you know,

01:16:28.199 --> 01:16:32.640
maybe Braunweih are, it really is called Braunstamper.

01:16:32.640 --> 01:16:36.600
How about Hats Off to Roy Harper? You remember

01:16:36.600 --> 01:16:39.579
that song? Oh my gosh, no. That's a Zeppelin

01:16:39.579 --> 01:16:45.260
song. I think it's off of... Hang on. Let me

01:16:45.260 --> 01:16:48.300
look. Tool had a song called Message to Harry

01:16:48.300 --> 01:16:53.100
Manback. Yeah. I never did find out the story

01:16:53.100 --> 01:16:58.600
on that. Hats off to Roy Harper. The story I

01:16:58.600 --> 01:17:02.979
heard about Harry Manback was that was a message

01:17:02.979 --> 01:17:05.460
that their landlord left on their answering machine

01:17:05.460 --> 01:17:07.020
because they hadn't been paying their rent and

01:17:07.020 --> 01:17:09.880
he wanted to move out. English folk rock singer

01:17:09.880 --> 01:17:14.340
was Roy Harper. Now, let me try this. Hats off

01:17:14.340 --> 01:17:21.300
to Roy Harper. What album is it on? AI is hating

01:17:21.300 --> 01:17:30.229
you. Led Zeppelin III. Oh, okay. Okay. Okay,

01:17:30.270 --> 01:17:32.149
now I know what it's about. It's a folk singer

01:17:32.149 --> 01:17:34.149
in England. I'm sorry, you were going somewhere

01:17:34.149 --> 01:17:37.189
and I had to figure this shit out. No, I was

01:17:37.189 --> 01:17:39.829
yakking over you, that's okay. Okay, sorry. I

01:17:39.829 --> 01:17:41.229
don't even remember what I said because it's

01:17:41.229 --> 01:17:42.750
five minutes ago. You know what, I'll listen

01:17:42.750 --> 01:17:48.909
to it later and figure out what you said. Okay,

01:17:49.149 --> 01:17:51.409
so now we got the hats off to Roy Harper figured

01:17:51.409 --> 01:17:54.529
out. Yep. And now it's pouring. We really need

01:17:54.529 --> 01:17:56.569
to be going. I've got to do my appointment. But

01:17:56.569 --> 01:17:58.649
what now? I was going to say, good rain going

01:17:58.649 --> 01:18:01.050
here. They're trying to wash us away. Yeah, they

01:18:01.050 --> 01:18:02.670
are. They're trying to get us out of here. I

01:18:02.670 --> 01:18:05.630
agree. I understand. I'm pretty much done. Okay.

01:18:06.329 --> 01:18:08.649
All right. Well, hey, everybody, thank you for

01:18:08.649 --> 01:18:10.210
listening, and go fuck yourself.