Your mama's so fat, she makes Godzilla look like
an etching figure. Yeah, there we go. Now, Jaco
Pistorius did not deserve to get beaten to death.
No, he didn't. No, we're not saying that, but
we can see how it happened. But I can see how
he put himself in a situation where that could
happen to him. Yes. Is it my turn? Yes. All right.
Metallica fans, they gatekeep the ass out of
Metallica. Yes. Yeah, they've got certain ranges
of albums that if you don't like these albums,
you're not a real Metallica fan. Or if you like
this album, then you're not a real... It just
goes on and on. You see, I'm a fan of the first
four, but I don't get stupid over it. To me,
I thought the music was much better. I thought
Kirk Hammett's playing was much better for whatever
reason. It wasn't so poppy. I kind of liked the
stuff that they did at first because to me it
was like the gateway to a heavier, faster music.
And Megadeth's a lot like that too. Megadeth
never really went pop like Metallica, but they
did some albums that were kind of fluxed into
other areas. I see that. I totally see that because
I've dealt with them before, you know. Because
I've argued with them about, you know, no, no,
no, no. It was all the stuff after And Justice
is the only stuff that was good. And it's like,
no, you know. So, yeah. This next one is half
of their fans. Half of this guy's fans are snobs.
Neil Peart. Yes, absolutely. Not all of them.
A lot of people like us appreciate his drumming,
but we're not obsessed with it. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I can admire the heck out of Neil Peart and still
confidently confess that for most of the beginning
of Rush's career, he overplayed and played with
zero dynamics. And he just power drummed his
way through everything. Yeah. And he was so dang
good and so inventive that nobody cared. Nobody
cared, yeah. But after a while, it's just like,
this is just a relentless assault of you hitting
everything as hard as you can, as often as you
can, and this has no meaning. It has no feeling.
Yeah, so he went feeling. He went emotion. And
he did that as good as anybody. And then, yeah,
he turned it all around, and damn, the later
stuff. He was so expressive. So it was amazing.
He played less and he said more. Kind of like
Bonham did, but not quite as prolific, I guess.
Yeah, Bonham was famous for not just what he
played, but all the empty spaces he left where
he didn't play something. Yeah, a good example,
you spoke about it earlier, Roll the Bones. Yeah.
And you know there's versions of that that took
out the rap? Oh, thank God. Yeah, and they just
play the song, and the song itself, I think,
is not bad. Yeah. Them trying to get hip or younger
is bad. Yeah. All right. Blink -182. Oh, yes.
A guitar player friend of mine, a bunch of his
kids are Blink -182 fans, and they think if you're
not a big Blink -182 fan and willing to road
trip across America to go see him play that you're
just missing out and you're foolish, and they
look down their noses at people that haven't.
discovered Blink -182. They're like a religious
cult that comes to your door and says, have you
heard the truth? They're like, have you heard
Blink -182? Yes. Yes. It's like, don't try to
proselytize to me about the band you like. I
get to like who I like. Yeah. And Blink -182
is not on that list. Yeah. And this guy's kids,
they tried to tell me all about the concerts
and they're telling song titles like... I really
don't know what you're talking about. I have
zero knowledge of Blink -182 as a band. Yeah,
me too, and there's a reason for that also. I
don't care about them at all. I find their music
horrible. They were going to be just Blink, except
another band had the name Blink, so they just
added 182. See, that right there is cheap. Coldplay.
Oh, yes. I know they were on the wimpiest fans,
but they're also on the snottiest fans. Because
of their songs and how people try to say that
they're these masterpieces. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I
mean, they're good, but... It's like there was
a point where Taylor Swift came out with a seven
-minute song, and a bunch of her fans were crediting
her with being the first and only person to ever
put out a song that long. Oh, my gosh. That is
so... It's just because they didn't even bother
to check. Yeah. And they're so ready to give
her the honors for everything. And there are
a number of fan bases like that. And you point
out, oh, look, there's this band doing it 10
years before. Oh, well, it wasn't really the
same thing. It didn't mean anything. There's
a guy over there with a Val Kilmer shirt on.
Oh, really? Yeah. Must have been a fan. Yeah.
Yeah, he... He kicked it yesterday on April Fool's.
You got something? The last ones I had, I had
Rush instead of Neil Peart. But Green Day and
My Chemical Romance. Green Day fans tend to think
that their band invented punk. Not even close.
Their fans tend to think that their band invented
the three -piece power trio. Not even close.
And then when we get to the segment on stolen
guitar riffs, Green Day's on the list three times.
I believe that. I believe that. They rip off
a ton of the stuff they do. And a lot of it is
just the normal ripping off that musicians do.
They're carrying it a little too far. Okay. They're
starting to get into territory of, yeah, you
guys really don't write much. adapt other people's
stuff, don't you? Well, number one, they're not
that good. And the act that they put on is just
stupid. I mean, you know, about, oh, we're real
punk. It's like, no, you're not. You're pop punk,
like the guy said. Billy Joe Armstrong's fake
English accent. Yeah. I'm so tired of that. Yeah.
I'm done with that whole thing. Now, their drummer,
Trey Cool, is insanely fast and insanely precise.
Yeah. and i think his talents are wasted in that
band i think so i really think that he i'm not
saying he should quit the band but he needs to
get a couple of side projects where he can really
stretch his his uh stretch his wings i agree
um finally the last one i got is the fans that
deny van halen but love van hagar they are a
particular snotty group that doesn't even understand
what they're saying yeah so Sometimes they just
like to hear themselves talk. Yes. I got a few
of the toughest fans. Oh, I got some too. Go
ahead. Black Sabbath. I agree 100%. Lincoln Park.
Oh, yeah. I forgot about them. Slipknot. Yes.
We go over on some of these. Ministry. Yes. I
saw a ministry open for Alice Cooper last summer
or the summer before. Uh -huh. He has some tough
-ass fans. Yeah. Cannibal Corpse. Yes. You're
going to tell me anybody who likes Cannibal Corpse
is a wimp? I don't think so. And also, they smell
like body odor, so you don't want to get near
them anyhow. I used to work with a guy like that.
Patchouli oil and body odor, not good. Yikes.
So, I mean, you kind of get the gist of who the
tough fans are, you know. I would not put Bruce
Springsteen fans in that list, even though they
want to pretend they are. Yeah. Yeah. Yes, I
agree. They go around with a handkerchief in
their back pocket thinking they're cool. Look
it up. Google it. Well, that was what I got.
Okay. I've got Rolling Stones. Yeah, I'd say
so. Yeah, I mean, really, they're kind of like
the bare -knuckle kind of guy that used to listen
to them. Yeah, kind of like Aerosmith fans. Yeah,
yeah, they're just a rough, tumble kind of guy,
you know. Doesn't take a lot of shit, but doesn't
care a lot of shit either. Yeah. They'll be smoking
a cigarette behind the corner, and business will
come out and go, you can't smoke within 50 feet,
and they go, watch me. So, Rolling Stone fans.
Next one I have to say is Alice in Chains fans.
Oh, yeah. I think that they are a unique group.
Yeah. Their lead singer killed himself with crack
and heroin. Yeah. That sounds like you're not
a soft kind of person if you're into that. No,
Wayne Staley was not a soft kind of a guy. No,
he had every intention of living fast and dying
young. And I think he probably pretty much meant
it when he fucking overdosed. He was like, oh,
okay, I guess this is the one. In fact, didn't
they have a song, We Die Young? Yes, they do.
Yes, they do. It was on facelift. Yeah, he told
people straight up, said, I have no intention
of ever trying to get clean. This is what I want
to do. This is it. The Three -Legged Dog album,
it's over now. Yeah, yeah. That's what he's talking
about. Fuck it. Yeah. Well, it's over now. Yeah,
you found out. I don't have to pretend. Yes.
Pantera. Oh, yeah. Not in the 80s. No, not in
the glam metal days. The 90s. Yes. The one with
the album that the guy getting hit in the face.
Vulgar display of power. Yes. Yes. I have that
one. Oh, yeah. The guy's face is like all distorted
from the fist and the knuckles. There's a picture
inside that album of Vinnie Paul behind the drums
with this big grin on his face. Uh -huh. He looked
exactly like the station manager I had at the
Rosedale post office at the time. Oh, wow. And
I remember bringing that CD to work, to listen
to, and I showed it to the guy next to me. He
said, look, doesn't this just look just like
Glenn, the station manager? He's like, oh, yeah,
it does. And he happened to be walking by, and
he got all huffy. He's like, all right, let me
see that. What are you talking about? And he
looked, and he's like, oh, yeah, I kind of do
look like him. He was all ready to be offended,
but then it turned out, I was like, oh, I really
do look like him. That's pretty cool. Does he
wear the big hat, too, the feather hat like he
used to, like Vinnie Paul did? No, no. But he
had a lot of moose in his hair. But the facial
hair and the way, you know, the kind of chunky
build and everything, the big, you know, the
big wide grin and crinkly eyes, he looked just
like him. Yep. So everyone started asking him
when, you know, when the next album was coming
out, and that was funny for about a week. Yeah.
I'd like to know really quick on a different
note about Pantera. How exactly they got back
together after the owners of the name died, both
of them. How did that happen? It must have been
bequeathed to somebody or the courts maybe decided
who gets ownership of the name. Because when
you have something that's worth that much money
and there's no clear succession of ownership,
the courts are going to decide something. Yeah,
that's true. I'll bet you that's what it was.
Yeah, so some family member or business partner
or somebody owned the name Pantera and then could
start using it again. Okay. The next one I have,
of course, you wanted to do Black Sabbath. Yep.
Uriah Heath. Yeah. Yeah, because they kind of...
They were kind of psychedelic metal, kind of
tough. Yeah, they were on the tougher edge of
psychedelia. Yeah. I think a lot of their songs,
if you hear them, they're kind of like, look
like just like a spit on the ground and fucking
toothpick your teeth song. Yeah. So I would put
Uriah Heep in that category. Definitely. Led
Zeppelin. Yeah. I think a majority of Led Zeppelin
fans are like that. Yeah, especially the ones
from Birmingham. Yeah, yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah,
because they went into some resistance. Yeah.
Because Paige and John Paul Jones were from Birmingham
and then Plant and Bonham were from the country.
From the country, yeah. I forgot to call it something
the countryside they're from. Yeah, I forgot
too. Yeah. They got a lot of shit in Birmingham.
And that's one of the reasons I gave them tough.
Because, I mean... I think the band itself is
tough, and I think that probably their average
fan is tougher than a lot of other fans. Yeah,
that'd be a tough place to come up as a struggling
band. It would. Johnny Cash. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah,
the man in black. Yes. He's, yeah. Yeah, the
man in black. Yeah, I'm telling you what, to
be a true fan of his and to be able to recite
most of his songs, that'd be a tough guy. You
drink Jack straight out the bottle. Yep. You
play cards. You name your boys, too. Yes. That's
the best one ever. Yes. Of course, I have Slipknot
on here, like you did. And I'm with you. I saw
them right here at the City Market. One of the
bands on the bill. Judas Priest was the final
one on the bill. And I'll tell you what, the
fans that they had there, I would not, uh -uh.
They all had switchblades. Yeah, they'd slice
you. And they were rabid and uncontrollable and
insane. Yeah. I loved them. I would have put
Monster Magnet fans on the list, but they're
generally so stoned that they're not violent.
Yeah, they're lying in a ditch. Oh, yeah, yeah,
yeah. I'll get back with you about that fight.
I love me some Monster Magnet. That's some pretty
crazy music. How about Henry Rollins fans? Oh,
yeah. Oh, fuck yeah. Oh, yeah. Those guys are
jacked, and they're ready to hit somebody in
the face. They're like looking around. There's
probably a little overlap between them and snotty
category. It's also snotty, you're right. But,
yeah, the only difference between the snotty
and non -snotty ones is the non -snotty ones
work out all the time. They have a very well
-groomed haircut. And they go around looking
for someone to fist fight. Yeah. And they try
to find the toughest person, too. They're like,
I'm not going to beat up some wimp. I've got
to beat up this guy that's meaner than hell.
Yeah. That's your typical Henry Rollins fan.
Now, this next one is just because of the way
I imagine it, because neither one of me or you
lived during this era at all. But just something
about the Western type that he was, I think screams
tough. Slim Whitman. Oh, yeah. I remember in
the 70s, KY102 brought him to town for a concert.
Because his commercials were on for his yodeling
music. Oh, yeah. And it became kind of a joke.
So, 102 brought him to town for a concert. And
he thought it was legit. And when he got here,
they were all making fun of him. And he got so
pissed. I didn't know that. I mean, he got really,
really angry. Wow. Maybe I ought to bring that
up on the fan page. Maybe so. Yeah, that's...
Wow. That's a pretty good little bit of information.
I remember Slim. Slim looked like he probably
carried a knife somewhere on him. Oh yeah, I'm
sure. And he wasn't afraid to use it either.
As a matter of fact, he picked his teeth with
it and he cut his beef jerky with it. Pretty
tough guy. And he would spit chaw in your eye
if you didn't like it. And they'd walk around
blinded like a cobra. The next one, Willie Nelson
fans. They're a rugged bunch. They're a pretty
rugged bunch. Yeah, they are. He's definitely
outlaw country. Yeah, he is. They all wear sleeveless
shirts, and they have homemade tattoos that say
Mudda. Mudda. Mudda. With a heart and an arrow
through it. Yeah. And then the next ones, this
one, I almost overlooked it. I just remembered
them in time. Jackal. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they are
a special brand. Come on, bitch. You take a live
chainsaw up on stage. It's not for the faint
of heart. They're another one like Henry Rawls
where they look around figuring out who they're
going to beat up to show you that they're tougher
than you. And you just hope they didn't pick
your card. It's like, oh shit, man. I think he
doesn't like me. I'm going to leave. The next
one. I always called him Leonard Skinner on acid.
That's Molly Hatchett. Oh, yeah. Or as I call
him, Molly fucking Hatchett. Yeah. I imagine
they are a wily bunch of Southerners that just
don't care. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, they scream obscenities
at parties. I remember in high school, both bands
were pretty active. And everyone seemed to like
Lynyrd Skynyrd. And then Molly Hatchet came out,
and all the tough guys became Molly Hatchet fans
and wanted that album cover painted on the side
of their van. Leonard Skinner was seen as not
really soft or weak, but just not as tough as
Molly Hatchet. Not as tough as Molly Hatchet.
And also, that's something you can go into, too,
is album art cover. Oh, yeah. Molly Hatchet had
that damn. Oh, my gosh. That's similar. They
inspired so many airbrushed con conversion vans
in the 70s. It's like you couldn't. I even saw
one where the little eyeballs lit up. Oh, my
God. That would be cooler now. Yeah, it was pretty
cool. My uncle wanted one of those really bad.
If you don't know what we're talking about, just
look up Molly Hatchet cover art. Yeah. And you'll
see several versions. Yeah. And it's all tough
as hell. Yeah, big, giant. fur -wearing barbarian
with his horned helmet and there's mayhem going
on. There's like death and destruction everywhere
and it blows up a fin. If it wasn't so complex,
he'd make a hell of a tattoo. It would be. Well,
I know people that could do that actually very
well. But it would cost you an arm and a leg.
And it would probably take up an arm and a leg.
And it would take up an arm and a leg. And it
would hurt. The next one is Slayer fans. But
I'm talking about Okay, have you noticed Slayer
fans are two different types. They're the ones
that jumped on way later. Yeah. Because their
music became more mainstream. More accessible.
More accessible, yeah. That's it. Not mainstream,
accessible. They're on iTunes and they're on
all this stuff. And they actually get a lot of
play. Especially on metal fringe stations or
hard rock stations. That probably coincided with
getting some of their songs on movie soundtracks.
Yes, that's true. So there's that fan, but there's
the real Slayer fans that knew them when they
first started. Those guys you don't fuck with.
And then finally, this is an unknown band, but
I brought them up last week because of concerts
that had a bill that had a very diverse body
count. Oh, yeah. Especially when you heard the
song Evil Dick. Google it. I love it. Yeah, he's
like, what's he say? He's talking like his dick
is talking. He goes, I said, I'll wake up late
at night. And it says, don't sleep alone, don't
sleep alone, don't sleep alone. Yeah, body count
and then cop killer and all that stuff, of course.
All right, that's all of mine. Yeah, probably
a lot of gangster rap, actually. where they have
pretty tough bands. Well, I almost went into
2 Live Crew and all that, and I'm like, you know
what? Body Count covers what we do. Yeah, true.
2 Live Crew, we might have gotten away with it.
They're kind of like a little bit of a crossover,
but no, no, you know. And Run DMC, no, they were
cupcakes, so. Well, what I got next, I've got
Rip Off of Guitar Rips. And I forgot mine, evidently.
I don't have them. They're somewhere at home.
And then I've got bands that peaked with their
very first album. Not that they were ever awful,
but they just never were quite as good. Which
one would you like to do? How about Riffs That
Are Stolen, and I'm going to give the one that
I remember that I wrote down. Did you ever listen
to Paradise City as opposed to Zero the Hero?
No, I haven't done a comparison. I need to. It's
really, really close. Hang on, I'll play it really
quick. I think I can play a little bit of it,
right? Without it actually being a copyright
infringement? Oh, yeah. Okay. Some of these on
my list, it's really tough to tell who was first
because it just gave the pairing. But some of
them I could tell who was first and who was second.
First one I have is ACDC's TNT. Go ahead. Lou
Graham. When he went solo, he had a song called
Arrow Through Your Heart that is pretty damn
close. Oh, okay. Metallica, Sad But True. Sad
but true. Avenged Sevenfold has a song called
This Means War that is remarkably similar. Yeah,
Metallica was first. Well, as a matter of fact,
people call Avenged Sevenfold a ripoff of Metallica.
Yeah. Well, they called Aerosmith the poor man's
version of the Rolling Stones. Yeah, that's right.
That's right. Dio put out Holy Diver. And then
later the Foo Fighters put out Something From
Nothing. That is really, really close on a guitar
riff. Yeah. Sometimes you just change the syncopation
a little bit. Add in an extra beat. Riot. Swords
and Tequila, and Iron Maiden, Two Minutes to
Midnight. Apparently share the same guitar riff.
They do. They do? And that would firmly be Iron
Maiden coming up for that one. Yeah. Here's a
really weird one. Remember Nelson? Mm -hmm. They
had a song called Will You Love Me? And Megadeth
has one called Hanger 18. Oh, wow. And they have
the same guitar riff. Yes, and Nelson would have
been the first one. Nelson would have been the
original. Nirvana had the song Come As You Are.
Uh -huh. Killing Joke came out one of them called
80s. Pretty much the same guitar riff. Okay.
ZZ Top Tush and Motorhead, No Class. I think
ZZ Top was first. Yeah, they would have had to
been first. Here's the one that a lot of people...
Oh, you're going to... Okay, there it goes. It's
coming up really quick, too. It takes a minute.
Come on now. Alright, it's coming up here, I
swear. Okay, here we go. Now, don't mind the
other ones. Just listen to the rhythm. It's almost
identical. Yeah. Yeah. But listen to it later
when you have a chance. Yeah. And listen to the
back part of it. I'm talking about the rhythm.
It's the exact same. So, anyhow, go ahead. That's
up. Here's what we got. Okay. Spirit. 60s band.
Their big hit was I Got a Line on You. Uh -huh.
They had a song called Taurus. Okay. And if you
listen to Taurus by Spirit, you can tell where
Led Zeppelin got all their ideas for Stairway
to Heaven. Actually, I remember that, yeah. And
they opened for them, too. Yeah. And they lost
a lawsuit to them, too. They did. They did. Let's
see. Now we do the Green Day works. There's an
act called Dillinger with a song called Double
Whiskey Coke Noice. And Green Day's American
Idiot ripped it off totally. Okay. American Idiot.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Okay. Chicago, 25
or 624. Green Day's Brain Stew ripped it right
off. Wow. Okay. And then you take Nirvana's Smells
Like Teen Spirit, and then you add in Oasis's
Wonderwall. And it distills down into Green Day,
Boulevard of Broken Dreams. And I went back and
listened to it and was like, oh my God, yes.
They took those two songs and took the best parts
out of them. I think I see where that... And
they created Boulevard of Broken Dreams out of
two other hits that other bands had had. Wow.
I'm kind of losing respect for Green Day here.
I never thought that they were all that in the
first place. Everyone else seemed to, but okay.
And then here's two, three, four, five, five
songs that all share the same riff. Swords and
Tequila by Riot. Flash Rockin' Man by Accept.
Welcome to Hell by Venom. Curse of the Pharaohs
by Merciful Fate. And Two Minutes to Midnight
by Iron Maiden. Oh, wow. I don't know who would
have been the first on that. Yeah, I'm going
to figure that out too. I mean, Merciful Fate
might have came before the Iron Maiden, Two Minutes
to Midnight. Because Merciful Fate was in the
80s, wasn't it? And Iron Maiden was in the 80s,
too. It's hard to tell. I think Two Minutes to
Midnight was 84, possibly. I would think, yeah.
Let's see, we got Angel Witch. They had a song,
Angel of Death, which stole the riff. Or shared
a riff with Dreams of Esheton by Manila Road.
Angel of Death, is that the Slayer song or the
other one? Angel Witch is the band. Angel Witch,
okay. We had another one called Night is Calling
that shared a riff with Goodnight by Nemesis.
Okay. Black Magic by Slayer and Fallen Saint
by Exhumer. Okay. Some of these I don't know.
Kill Again by Slayer versus Terrible Certainty
by Creator. Okay. Strike of the Beast by Exodus
versus Total Death by Creator again. Here's a
couple of Megadeth ones. Set the Stage Alight
by Weapon and Hippolytes by Metallica. I wonder
who came first. I don't know. Rainbow Warrior
by Bleak House. Welcome Home by Metallica. I
think Blink House might have actually been before
that. Anyhow. Here's another Metallica. Metallica,
For Whom the Bell Tolls. Home of the Once Brave
by Bathory. I'm going to have to look that one
up. Bathory was before that, I do believe. Because
we're talking about the 90s versus the 80s. Yeah,
okay. Now here's one. In 1971, Alice Cooper had
a hit with I'm 18. And then years later, Kiss
had a hit with Dreaming, which shares the same
structure. Yeah. Okay. And I could see Alice
not caring about that. No, I could too. I could
be like, that's a good song, and we know it's
kind of close to this, but who cares? And then
for honorable mention, I put in a drum riff that
was ripped off. The iconic intro to Rock and
Roll by Led Zeppelin. The one that Phil Collins
couldn't learn? Yeah. It was directly ripped
off from a Little Richard song called Keep a
Knockin'. Directly? Directly. Exact same intro.
So John Bonham was like, hey, I like that. He
just copied it. Wow. And it was the drum intro
on both songs. I've been... No, they weren't
even trying to hide it, were they? No. I think
that's great. They're just like, hey, we stole
this, okay? Just, you know, full disclosure,
it's stolen. I have the 12 weirdest song titles
in the world. Oh, I like this. Yeah. And this
was a poll that they did, and I forgot the name
of the online magazine. I mean, just if you have
any questions, Google it. It'll come up. They
say that the number one was Frank Zappa, Why
Does It Hurt When I Pee. Oh, I know that song.
Yeah. Yep. And yeah, it is a pretty interesting
title, yes. This next one I knew all about, and
I always thought it was funny. Tool, Hooker with
a Penis. I know that song, too. That song is
about when a fan came up and accused him of selling
out. Yes. Yep. Which has nothing to do with the
title. No. Alice in Chains, The Devil Put Dinosaurs
Here. It's one of their... Don't know that one.
It's on a side two, and I want to say it's off
the dirt. And I think it was just a filler song.
Yeah, it's probably a bonus track on something.
That might be. That might be. So anyhow, because
that was right at the time where they're starting
to come out with the CD bonus track stuff to
get them to kind of enhance the sales. Remember
that whole stupid time where they were hiding
the bonus tracks and you had to figure out how
to get them? Yes. What a ridiculous game. That
pissed me off. I'd be like, I'm not playing that.
I'll just never hear it. I don't care. It's not
like those songs are worth the shit anyhow. They're
left over and they're like, hey, do you want
to do something with this? And then the artist
realized if you make them that hard to find,
they're not going to get played and they're not
going to get paid for them. Yeah, and they're
like, oops. The next one, I think you'll remember
this one. Queens of the Stone Age. I was a teenage
hand model. Yeah. That was pretty good. There's
an Alice Cooper song called I Love the Dead.
Oh, I love that one. There's one called Dead
Babies. Yep. Those are pretty rude. They are
very rude, but not as rude as this next one.
Oh, yeah? Marilyn Manson baboon rape party. I
thought cake and sodomy was bad. Yeah, I know.
Making fun of Catholic communion. I know. Oh,
the Dead Kennedys had one called Too Drunk to
Fuck. Oh, yeah, yeah. I love that one. That was
a good one. Yep. That was my ringtone for a while.
Wow. It made me want to answer the phone real
quick. And besides the name The Dead Kennedys.
Yeah. That's one of the best band names ever.
Yeah. Now they have a few more after them. Yeah.
I mean, they're like all of The Dead Kennedys.
Yeah. They call themselves now. Joe Satriani.
The Mystical Potato Head Groove Thing. I have
no idea, but I love the name. Talking about his
penis, of course. This next one, I'm going to
spell out the acronym to the last word. Cannibal
corpse and trills ripped from a virgin's see
you next Tuesday. Yeah, I've heard of that one.
Yeah. Primus, Wyonna's big brown beaver. Yes.
I've made it a point to never listen to that
song. I just want to hear the title. That's enough.
Yeah, and that's it. But however, the bass on
that is insane. Yeah, it's always insane on the
Primus. Gore. Preschool prostitute. Oh, your
childhood ruined. You're welcome. Oh my gosh.
And finally, Pink Floyd. Several species of small
furry animals gathered together in a cave and
grooved them with a pick. Yeah, I know that song.
I do too. That is funny. And a pick is actually
the name for a person of a certain ethnicity.
I think it speaks a certain language. I think
you're right. We went into it on a different
podcast a little bit about it. But I would agree
that I thought it should have been higher up
on the list. It's kind of one of those obnoxious
songs, like they're coming to take me away. Yeah,
like that, yeah. Yeah, it really is a bunch of
animal noises, and then you get some guy speaking
in an accent you can't understand, and it's all
echoey and weird, and it lasts for a while, and
then it goes away. And it wasn't really meant
to be anything except a pain in the ass song,
and you have to get by to go to another one.
That was on Uma Gama, was the double album, where
each band member got to do an entire side. That's
right. Yeah. The side the drummer did was pretty
awful. I wanted it to be cool. Nick Mason? Hell
of a drummer. I love Nick Mason's work. His side
of the album was pretty poor. Have him write
a song, not so much. Alright, you got something?
Yeah, bands that peaked with their very first
album. I don't know that one either. Some of
these are controversial, so be it seen here.
This goes in chronological order. 1967, The Doors'
first album. Had all their best material. They'd
been working on it for a couple years. All four
of them still wanted to be in a rock band, and
Morrison wasn't too wasted yet. But even by the
next album, all that was going by the wayside.
Oh, I know, and I agree with that 100%. That's
probably the best example of a band that just
had all their material, and then they had nothing
else to offer. Yeah. Jim Morrison was constantly
fucked up. He didn't want to be a part of it.
He wanted to write poetry. He wanted to make
movies. He wanted to go on mystical retreats.
He wanted to be wasted 24 -7. And he very quickly
decided, you know, I really don't want to be
in a band anymore. I hate fame. I hate being
recognized. So yeah, their first album was really
the lightning in the model. Yeah, and it spoke
for itself. It was a fantastic album. but it
was like that's what they wanted to do and that
was it so okay 1967 also the first album from
velvet underground it was so radically different
from anything else lou reed was the lead singer
and you're like 1967 that was the summer of love
hippies flower power lou reed was singing about
heroin addiction and prostitution and sadomasochism
that's how different this was that's funny yeah
that's awesome supposedly they only sold 30 ,000
copies of that first album but the managers quoted
saying everyone who bought one of those 30 ,000
copies went out and started a band that's how
influential it was wow and they did put out some
more albums after that but nothing nothing matched
that initial um yeah uh 30 ,000 I'm going to
do this here real quick, and then we'll get back
into them. 30 ,000 downloads now is like something.
They're really happy about that. 30 ,000 albums
was nothing back then. It shows you how music's
changed. There was a lot more money invested
up front. Yeah, there was. 1969, King Crimson.
Really, really ugly album cover. That was on
our list for ugliest album covers. I said that
wrong. 30 ,000 albums now is big. Yeah. Not 30
,000 downloads. Yeah, back then 30 ,000 albums
was nothing. But now 30 ,000 albums would be
a big deal. Yeah, it would be like maybe number
10 or something. Yeah. Anyhow, sorry, go ahead.
So in 69, King Crimson came out with an album.
It combined the brand new progressive rock movement
with hard rock and folk and jazz and classical.
And no wonder, you know who the vocalist and
bass player was? Uh -uh. Greg Lake. of Emerson,
Lake, and Homer. And they had Robert Fripp on
guitar and Ian MacDonald who played just about
any instrument you would throw at him. And that
really carried the whole album, these three awesome
musicians. But by the second album, the lineup
was already falling apart. And they just didn't
have the creativity, they didn't have the musicianship.
It just wasn't there. But that first album was
just like the big deal. I'm saying that over
and over. No, no, no, no. And also, I remember
one of the bands I had on my list. Yeah. Guns
N' Roses. And it's highly contested. That's true.
No, that first album, Appetite for Destruction,
was a great album, one of the great albums of
our lifetime. It's on my list. Oh, it is? Okay.
It is right here in 1987. Second from the last,
yeah. I'll remember more, but I have a list at
home. But anyhow, go ahead. So the next one is
the MC5. They had the famous Kick Out the Jams
motherfuckers. Their first album was recorded
live over two days, I think, at the Chicago Ballroom,
even though they were a Detroit band. Tons of
energy, tons of raw power. All the songs they'd
been practicing and working on for all their
lives up to that point. They just couldn't replicate
it after that. Everything after that just sounded
weak and like a half effort. Okay. I would agree
with that, too. And they carried so far. After
that, they were really subpar. But, man, people
still loved them. They were like a cult. 1972,
Roxy Music. They were kind of art rock. Their
very first album was musically very inventive,
very creative. But every album after that, they
got more and more commercial. They were chasing
radio airplay. So the first album, that's really
who Roxy Music was. Everything after that is
kind of getting watered down until it all starts
sounding like Brian Ferry's solo career. And
this leads me to a question that I'm going to
ask after this. 1973, Lynyrd Skynyrd. That's
controversial. They're saying their first album
was their peak. Actually, I mean, I don't know,
though. I wasn't sure, but listen to the songs
that were on that album. I Ain't the One, Gimme
Three Steps, Tuesday's Gone, Simple Man, and
then it ended with Freebird. Okay. Wow. And again,
this is a band that have been playing these songs
together and playing them live. for a couple
three years already before they got an album
deal which usually doesn't happen anymore true
so by the time they were ready to record this
album they had these songs polished and they
had you know way more material than that but
all their best stuff made the first album that's
and then their second album was the stuff that
didn't make the first album plus what they wrote
in the meantime and then from then on is just
whatever they were writing at that moment I didn't
realize that Freebird was on that album. Yeah.
For some reason. It ended their first album,
and that was just like the band showing off,
saying, look how good we are. Everybody deal
with us now. It was a real coming out party.
The guitar caught everybody by surprise, too.
And that was with their original drummer, who
quickly got to the point where he wasn't quite...
versatile enough to handle the material they
were writing, so they replaced them with Artemis
Pyle. 1973, the New York Dolls. They reveled
in their sloppiness and mistakes. They were like
punk before there was punk. They helped kickstart
the punk movement. It was loud and rude, and
everybody on the album cover was in drag. So,
it was New York Dolls, so of course it sold,
and everybody bought it, and everyone listened
to it, and the punk movement kind of took over
from there, and the New York Dolls were seen
as, well, thanks for getting this going, but
we got who we want now. Yeah, yeah, what's his
name, died recently. David Johansson. Yes. Yeah.
Patti Smith in 1975. She was associated with
Bruce Springsteen for a bit. I didn't know that.
She had her first album was called Horses. And
she meant it as a reset of rock and roll music.
Because she was tired of the excesses of the
60s. All the drugs, the mysticism, the eastern
religions, all the overdose deaths, all that
stuff. She's like, let's just get rid of this
and rejuvenate rock into something hard and good
and fast. It came out a full five months before
the Ramones' first album did. The Ramones are
the ones who get credited for starting punk.
Yeah, they did, yeah. But Patti Smith's album
was just, it was like three chord songs full
of attitude. That's punk. And I remember ignoring
it at the time, but I want to go back and listen
to it and see how it holds up. Okay, that's a
good idea. I think I'll listen to some of it
too. Boston in 1976, their first album. Yeah,
classic. It invented album -oriented rock radio.
which is what KY -102 was. Before Boston, it
really didn't exist. The album was consistently
good all the way through. The recording quality
was great. There again, songs that Tom Scholz
had been working on for years and recording multiple
times and getting it perfected and getting it
right. And this was a genre that was used in
radio. Yeah. Album -oriented rock meant that
you could go through the album and pick out a
song that was popular. Didn't have to be the
single. Yeah, didn't have to be the single. Yeah.
And that's what KY really, that's what got them
big. And I think every, pretty much every song
on Boston's first album got significant radio
airplay. Yeah. Because they were just good. And
you're right, that is what started it right there.
Before it was like, this is the hit and this
is the side B, this is the hit and this is the
side B. Yeah, Casey Kasem's American Top 40 was
still a big deal, but pretty soon, People are
like, I don't care what the top 40 is. There's
all this other good music that they don't even
pay attention to. And there's a lot of DJs that
could get credit for this, too. Because that's
how a lot of the songs got popular. They're late
at night at 2 a .m. The DJ's high. It's the song
he wants to hear. Program director's asleep.
Nobody knows. But by the second album, it was
songs he was having to start to write again.
And he was starting to realize how badly he'd
been screwed by the record label. And his heart
really wasn't in it. And he started getting involved
in electronics. He put out the Rockman, which
was like the very first headphone amp. He joined
up with Peavey and started putting out amplifiers.
So Boston, the album, the band kind of took a
backseat. And they all were professionals before
that, anyhow, weren't they? And from the third
album on, it was all drum machines. Oh, yeah,
that's right. I forgot. Yeah. And the third album
was, like, released, like, ten years after the
other two. But that was designed like that. They
owed the record company one more, and they said,
okay, we'll get to it sometime. Yep. Oh, and
then just a little bit later, the Ramones in
1976. It was the official start of the punk movement.
And that was their best album, so, yeah, I agree.
It was a 29 -minute album. That's punk. 14 and
a half minutes per side. And, you know, after
that album, they just repeated themselves. I
mean, Jethro Tull did a side. Jethro Tull did
a side. That was almost that long. Yeah, almost
that long. Yeah. There's a Pink Floyd song called
Echoes that's over 23 minutes just itself. That's
a great one right there. It's side two of metal.
Yeah. I tried to download that the other day,
and all I could find was the 16 -minute version.
It's like, oh, you've got to give me those seven
minutes back, man. That's a third of the song.
And it wasn't radio play that did that. They
never played it on the radio. Probably the streaming
service just didn't want to have such big file
cluttering up there. They wanted you grabbing
other songs, I guess. All right, 1977, Meatloaf,
Bad Outta Hell. Definitely the peak of his career.
Definitely. Bad Out of Hell 2 was way later,
and it wasn't as good. And it was Jim Steinman,
and that was the best. Jim Steinman was really
good at the rock opera, if you will. So, yeah,
Bad Out of Hell was by far, by far better than
anything else. But Bad Out of Hell 2 was really
stellar. We'd all moved on by then. What a great
example. In 77, when his album came out, perfect
blend of the material, because it was some longer
songs and more inventive songs. It kind of had
a little bit of Springsteen vibe to it. The performer
and the time. Todd Rundgren produced that album,
played guitar on it. That album, you could say
so much about it, too. Yeah. One of my favorite
songs doesn't get played on the radio much. It's
All Ripped Up With No Place To Go. Oh, yeah,
that's a good song. That's an excellent song.
I never learned how to play that one. He's the
one that I described swagger to. Yes. Okay, he's
a big, fat, greasy bitch, but it didn't matter.
Yep. Women loved him. But, you know, the success
of that album really paralyzed. And it got to
where he physically couldn't sing because he
was so stressed out about not living up to what
he'd already put out. And that's when he got
into acting. Yeah. Rocky Horror, he was the best
character on that. He was actually doing Rocky
Horror before he made the album. He was doing
the stage play, and then he was filming the movie
while he was working on the album. And then after...
He put out a low -budget movie called Roadies.
Yeah. With Alice Cooper and Khaki Hunter and
the guy from the Jackie Gleason show. I can't
remember his name. Old guy. Yeah. Anyway, but
Jim Steinman put all the stuff he had. From 1977,
that was all the best stuff he had up to that
point. He put it on that album. As you said,
Bad Outta Hell 2 took a while, and by that time,
it was hairband time. Yeah, it was. So nobody
was really interested in Meatloaf anymore. Yeah.
It was all skinny guys and leather and hair.
That's true. Although it did hit well. Yeah,
it did. And it actually paved the way for Meatloaf
to do a couple more tours that were very successful.
Yeah. But then after that, he followed it up
with another album that did nothing. I forgot
what the name of it was. Yeah. But it wasn't
Jim Steinman either. Yeah. And then there's that
one song, I'll Do Anything for Love, but I Won't
Do That. Yeah, that was a big one. That was off
that later album. Okay, another album came out
in 77. A lot of people haven't heard of this,
but it's a band called Television. Tom Verlaine
was the guitar vocalist and driving force behind
it. It was a mix of blues and rock and jazz and
improv. Lots of jagged rhythms, lots of really
exploratory guitar solos. It was just so totally
different from anything of the time because in
77 we had basically punk and disco and the remains
of hard rock that were kind of fighting for the
airwaves. Van Halen wasn't out yet. But this
album, Television, I remember the music magazines
I was reading at the time making a big deal of
it. It was one of those albums that blew up within
the music industry and other musicians listened
to it and bought copies and were influenced by
it. But the general public was like, huh? We
didn't care. 1978, The Cars. Their first album.
They peaked. And I can kind of see that. It was
a lot of really good songs. Still had that kind
of punky new age delivery. Their follow -up album,
Candio, was decent, but they had more poppy kind
of hits on it. And then by the third album, the
synthesizer was really taking over, and it was
drum machine from that point on. They would do
the album with a drum machine, and then the drummer
would have to learn the parts so they could go
play live. Wow. Yeah, it just sucked. That was
Heartbeat City was the start of drum machines.
1978, Devo, their first album, Are We Not Men.
That was their entire creative wad. Everything
after that was way more commercial, way more
danceable, a lot of repetitive. They had another
album called New Traditionalists that had some
pretty decent songs with the crew being cool
and it's a wonderful world, but then they had
some real stinkers on it too. But that first
album, I think everybody was just so excited
about their cover of the Rolling Stones' Satisfaction.
Uh -huh. I remember that. Yeah, I remember seeing
them on Saturday Night Live, and it's like, who
the hell are these guys? Yeah. But that's my
favorite version of Satisfaction now, is the
Stones' version. Now here's another controversial
one. Van Halen. Their initial 1978 release...
A lot of people see that as their peak. I thought
it was their best album. Van Halen 2 was good,
but I think the first one was the best. I think
the one thing that's cited is the enormous impact
that Eddie and that album had on guitar playing
in general. It was just unequal. And when their
second album came out, everybody was like, yeah,
we already know. It was as good. They had albums
as good as the first, but most people say they
never really surpassed that first album as far
as the tightness. And then again, there again,
they had been playing in the L .A. club scene
for at least a couple years before they put that
album out. So these are songs they played live
hundreds of times. So they had them perfect.
And then from that point on, they had to write
songs while they were on the road touring. Yeah,
and they weren't nearly as good at it because
they were so busy partying. Yes, yes. The Pretenders
in 1979. The original lineup did not last. Two
members left, one nothing left, one died by the
time the second album came around. Songwriting
was vastly different by the second album. And
also by the second album, it's such a copycat
business that everybody was signing bands with
female lead singers. So Chrissy Hynde was no
longer that big a deal. Because there were like
a dozen more that they were trying to show. Oh,
she's just like her. So the first album made
a big splash. And then all the wannabes and hangers
-on and bandwagoners showed up. Plus, I think
the guitar player and the bass player both died.
One died and one left. So she was down to her
and the drummer. So, yeah, the music's going
to sound different on the next album. Yes, very
different. The drummer was decent. I thought
he was okay. But, eh, anyway. All right, here's
one I'm really interested to get your opinion
on. Ozzy's first album in 1990, Blizzard of Oz.
I've thought about this a lot, and I don't know,
because here's why. And I can argue this really
good. Okay. Diary of a Madman was probably just
as good. It could even be musically a little
bit better. But as far as shock, hard -hitting,
surprise. Yeah, just bold, in -your -face, pick
your adjective. It all fits. Yeah, because he
was dead in the water. He was. And nobody expected
anything from him. No. Everyone expected him
to go away and never hear from him again. Yeah,
and they had the new Hot Shot guitarist with
a hell of a band, Lee Kerslake at the time, and
then was it Rudy Sarzo? Yeah, I think it was.
Okay. And then Kerslake was replaced with Tommy
Haltridge. So Diary of a Bad Man was, to me,
about on the same level. I may like Blizzard
a little bit better, I'm not for sure, but Diary
had some really good songs, like Over the Mountain
and stuff like that. But then, okay, let's fast
forward. The Jakey Lee stuff was good, but none
of it was as high a level as No More Tears. Yeah.
A lot of people argue No More Tears was his apex.
I can see that, too. Yeah. So if you look at
it hit -wise, No More Tears sold it. He was way
more mature of an artist at that point. Yes.
For No More Tears. But Blizzard of Oz was like...
Look what I can do. Yes. He's like the kid where
you've just got a bike and he wants to show you
all the tricks he can do on it. Yeah, and he
had this new hotshot band. So I would say musically
and sonically, No More Tears probably won. Yeah.
But it depends. It's all a taste thing from here.
Yeah, true. Because I put No More Tears and the
first two on the same level. The Jakey Lee stuff
was nice, but it wasn't the same thing. True.
No Rest for the Wicked was nice. But it wasn't
the same thing. Zach Wild learned how to write
a song on No More Tears. And they also have Bob
Daisley back. And Bob Daisley was so good at
doing the intricate music. And he grew as a musician
in between, too. And it was like the perfect
marriage. So, I mean, I don't know. I mean, I
put those three albums as some of the best albums
ever written. Yeah. I don't know. The reasoning
on this list was... It was the combination of
a brand new sound for Ozzy and Randy Rhoads on
guitar and the subject material was like fresh
and brand new and like totally not Black Sabbath.
Yes. And it's like that combo, like they just
like peaked at number one and there's nowhere,
they can't get any higher. So it's like they
say they were right there at the top and they
stayed good. But they couldn't get any higher
because they started right at the top. That very
well might be true. Yeah, I can see how they
get that perspective. And you've got to credit
Ozzy because everybody wanted him to do Sabbath,
and he said, I don't want to do that. He goes,
this is a different band, and no. He said, we
did that as well as it could be done. I don't
want to go there again. I want to do my own thing.
I'm solo. That's not smart to directly compete
against the band you just left. No, and Sabbath
changed their sound quite a bit too. They're
more heavy metal. They weren't psychedelic. Yeah,
that's true. And that was because Dio's voice
was, you know, so prominent, so prolific, and
so gothic that they couldn't really do, you know,
could you imagine? Him doing fairies wear boots
or something like that? Not really. Although
he did good on the old Sabbath stuff live. He
did good, but that's not him. And that was a
Sabbath identity with him. So this was one of
the deals where both bands, well, the guy that
was kicked out ousted and the new band with a
new singer, you know, the band with a new singer.
actually went on to very successful afterwards.
Yeah. That hardly ever happens. That's true.
That's true. Yeah, usually one of them does well
and the other one flops, or they both flop. Yeah,
the only other example that comes to mind right
off the bat is when Peter Gabriel left Genesis.
That's a good example. They've both had great
careers since. Yeah, yeah. The only thing I can
say about that is Peter Gabriel is a certain
type of an audience. Yeah. And Genesis was poppy.
With Phil Collins. Yeah, yeah. They definitely
got more pop -oriented. Yeah, but, I mean, you
can't argue success on both of them. Absolutely.
Coincidentally, the next up on the list in 1983
is Dio. Vivian Campbell on guitar, Dio on the
vocals. 100%. I agree with that 100%. Is it the
energy and the power were never equal? Never
equal. Did Vivian, I imagine, wrote a number
of those songs? Was he co -writer or was he just
playing? I remember one of the things that Vivian
Campbell was mad was the same thing about Jakey
Lee. Each one of these artists did not give enough
credit for songwriting. They gave it all to Dio,
pretty much, and they gave all the songwriting
credit to Ozzy, which is absurd. So, yeah, I
remember Vivian Campbell saying that, so I could
see him having a big chunk of what was happening,
besides his guitar style, was European. True,
true. Which would mean that he would write those
kind of songs. He wouldn't be doing the Jakey
Lee stuff. As a matter of fact, Jakey Lee auditioned
for Dio. Oh, wow. Yeah, and Dio turned him down
because he had the L .A. sound. And Dio was like,
no, no, no, no, no. I want to do the European
sound. I want to do metal. I don't want to do
this stuff. I would say Holy Diver was the best
album Dio ever done solo, without a doubt. Last
in Line was really good. but it never did equal
the power, the mystic. This little deal, the
shocking, the shockiness of a preacher being
thrown in the water and changed by a demon. I
remember that cover. Yeah. And what he was talking
about was, I believe he was talking about the
hypocrisy of religion. Yeah. I don't think it
had anything to do with anything much else, except
he was talking about how, you know, hey, this
is just, you know, he viewed religion as bullshit.
Yeah, I agree with it. What do you think? I would
say so, yeah. The impact was enormous. And again,
no one expected his solo album to do a whole
lot. I mean, a lot of the mainstream people didn't,
and it just blew up. You couldn't get away from
it on radio. Always on. It was powerful and sent
a different message than a lot of songs were.
But I got something a little bit different there.
Remember his album Dream Evil? Yeah. He already
went down the toilet and then he got Greg Goldie.
Dream Evil was a classic album. It wasn't Holy
Diver, but it is definitely Last in Line quality,
if not a little bit better. And that was done
with a different guitarist and a different type
of a sound. Oh, wow. And a lot of people were
saying, you know, was that his second coming?
Was that the second best album he ever did? But
it's kind of weird because he went through that
Sacred Heart flopped. Didn't do anything. And
that's when he started looking a little bit more
glammy and trying to write more glammy songs
because that's what the record company told him
they had to do to stay relevant. Then he kind
of went back to that Dream Evil kind of mystical,
that dragons, dungeons, all this stuff. And that
hit really, I mean, it didn't hit that big, but
it was a great album and everybody that knew
Dio was like crazy over it, including me. I thought
it was a fantastic album. Could have been his
second best. And albums like that, you don't
necessarily look at their initial sales? No.
Because the sales over time really tell the tale
of how important the album is. It held up very
well. It is a completely different sound, but
it was... And I would say that that was his second
best effort. Actually, a lot of the band was
different. It wasn't just Greg Goldie. I believe
after Sacred Heart, he was so pissed off, he
fired most of the band. Even though he was the
one that co -signed on it. Yeah, really. Anyhow,
go ahead. Yeah, it's like firing the head coach
because you can't fire the whole team. Yeah,
yep. All right. Besides, his name was on the
band. Yeah. 1987, Guns N' Roses, Appetite for
Destruction. I agree. Yeah, it's their best material,
the best cohesion of the band, the best lineup
they ever had, the best energy, and it was the
last time they all got along. Izzy Stradlin,
yeah, Izzy Stradlin is one of the, to me, one
of the most underrated guitarists ever. He made
that sound. Yeah. He did that. I call it kind
of Rolling Stone's dirt sound, the clunks and
the chunks and this. He did the rhythms that
were so dirty. They were just nasty, filthy rhythms
that complimented Slash. And the drumming was
more simple with Adler than it was with Matt
Sorum and whoever else they got. Yeah, I agree.
And it fit their songs better. When Matt Sorum
came in and started doing all his cool, fancy
stuff, it just really didn't seem like Guns N'
Roses anymore. Yeah, and they started building
songs around that, in my opinion. They didn't
really build them like... You know, Adler's just
kind of like ancillary. He's like, okay, here's
the beat that this gets, and everyone agrees.
Okay, yeah, yeah, that sounds about right. Yeah,
they started writing a guitar song, and then
he'd create a rhythm for it. But, yeah, with
Sorum, it was like they came up with a rhythm
or an idea of feel, and then the guitars responded
to that. It was a totally different way of writing
songs. Yeah, it was. And now they hate him. And
the cult still hates him for leaving. Yes, so
he's kind of outcasted. I think he tried to go
back to the cult, and they're like, no, no, no,
no, no, no, not now. He'll just leave again.
Yeah, yeah, just stay gone. Yeah, I mean, without
a doubt. Now, Use Your Illusion 1 and 2 were
good. Yeah. But they weren't the same quality,
did not have the same sound. I agree. I saw a
video this morning about the most expensive videos
ever made. Number one on the list was November
Rain. Yes. I think it cost them $11 million to
make. The rest of Guns was so mad about that,
too. They were really pissed. Yeah. Because Axl
Rose was actually making his life story and not
the actual song. Yeah. He was like, you know,
showing his failed marriage, showing what a bitch
he was, showing his problems. They were really
sick of it. Yeah, it was the Axl Rose show. Yes,
and they were really sick of it, but then again,
they were all on heroin. Yeah, they weren't awake
and coherent to sign the papers, so too bad.
Yeah, so Axl Rose, as crazy as he was, he controlled
the band because he was the most sane. And the
band would have just ended if he hadn't done
all that. If he hadn't done that, and he knew
that, and I've got to give him credit for that.
On the same token, I can't give him credit for
taking over the band and doing his own thing
on so many things. I think Use Your Illusion
1 and 2 would have been much better if he didn't
have his influence about his life on it. Like
I said before, Sweet Child of Mine was written
about Aaron Everly, and Coma was written around
Aaron Everly. Of the Everly Brothers, their daughter.
Anyhow. I lost my train of thought. There was
another song written about her too, I forgot,
but it wasn't good. I would imagine. Locomotion.
Oh, okay. Doug Melrunger over. Not the dance
hit. No, not the dance. Everybody's doing the
locomotion. Come on everybody, do the locomotion.
It was depressing this morning. I watched a video,
you know, ten songs that are cover songs that
you probably didn't know were cover songs. I
knew all of them because I was alive when the
originals came out. Didn't, like, Debbie Gibson
do that or something, the locomotion? Grand Funk
did it. Yeah, they did it first. No, theirs was
a cover. Yeah, I know theirs. Oh, okay, okay.
It was a girl group from the early 60s, I think,
that did the original. Oh, okay. okay and it's
you know it's the same and you know hand clap
everyone they do you know it's basically i think
i heard that i thought that was a cover of grand
funk but i guess not all right last one on my
list 1991 an artist that peaked with their very
first album and this one i agree 100 on pearl
jam yes they should have released that first
album and then just gone away Because then after
that, they got full of themselves. Yeah. Soundgarden
did it way better. Who else was doing it way
better? STP can be argued. Some people say it's
the sound, but it's not. Alice in Chains, definitely.
But on the first album, Pearl Jam was the most
accessible musically. They were making an effort,
at least, to make the songs accessible to your
average listener. Every song had the possibility
of being a radio hit. The band seemed very sincere,
very believable. Making the music was the priority.
I agree. And then they became, you know... guys
with causes and social causes and things to say,
and oh yeah, we kind of have this band too called
Pearl Jam. Yeah, they got full of themselves.
Yeah, absolutely. And that's when Eddie Vedder
used to get out on stage and preach, which pissed
people off. They're like, no, we didn't come
here to, you tell us how we're ruining the environment
when you're in your jumbo fucking plane driving
here. Yeah. He is the height of hypocrisy and
people saw right through it. Yeah, they really
misjudged that. Yeah, they did. They started
putting a lot of really experimental stuff on
their albums. I've got, I don't know if their
second or third album called Vitology. Yeah,
yeah. There's maybe two tracks on that I listen
to, and the rest of it, to me, is just unlistenable.
A song that almost complimented Guns, but they're
glorified G. But it didn't come off. It was an
anti -Guns song, but it didn't come off as that,
and people are wondering about the message because
they did it so horribly. Oh, yeah. It's something
about what if I didn't carry a gun or something
like that. Yeah, that's pretty bad when you're
trying to make a statement and your message is
so lost that nobody really knows what the hell
you're talking about. Yeah, people were like,
is this anti or pro? I would think it was anti
being Pearl Jam. Yeah, yeah. But it almost sounded
pro, like what would happen if I didn't carry
my gun? What would happen? It's like, well, people
are saying, are you saying you'd get killed if
you didn't, you know? Yeah. It's like, what would
happen if I didn't wear my seatbelt? Yes. That's
the kind of attitude people took. But he probably
meant it the other way. Yeah, he meant it like,
what would happen if I didn't hate today? Yes.
That's what he meant. Yeah. But it came off like,
well, what if I didn't read the directions before
taking this medicine? Yeah, and that song, I
think, would have been a hit if it wasn't for
that. Yeah. Swing and a miss, every step of the
way. Yeah, swing and miss, all of it. Victology
was the end of them completely. I mean, they
never had the elderly woman behind the counter
song ever again. Ever again. Which I have to
admit is pretty much a masterpiece. Because of
the title and the sound of the song, the whole
vibe of the song, the whole feeling. I mean,
when I read that title, I'm like, that's what
they're saying. Kind of a melancholy, this is
life. I know a song like that. It's called, I
think it's by the Boxhead Ensemble, and it's
called Still Life. And a still life painting
is basically, you know, something that's not
moving, like a bowl of fruit sitting on a table.
Like a... Yeah. Yeah. There's no living creature
moving. There's no trees swaying. It's just a
simple static object that's not doing anything.
Like a snapshot in time. Yeah. So this song,
somehow they managed to make the song seem like
a still life painting or photograph. It's like
nothing's happening. There's nothing alive or
moving. It was just so weird. I felt dusty afterwards.
I felt like I'd been sitting in storage for a
couple of months. It was just the weirdest feeling.
It's what I call a flatliner song. It's like
it goes nowhere. It starts nowhere and it goes
nowhere. Yeah, but it wasn't a bad song. It wasn't
unpleasant. I listened to it over and over because
I'm totally fascinated by this, but there's just
nothing here. What is it that's drawing me in?
Yeah. Stan Ridgeway writes some songs like that.
He was in a band called Wall of Voodoo that had
a hit with Mexican radio. He went solo, Stan
Ridgeway, and he put out some really awesome
stuff. That guy was very talented, very creative,
but not all that disciplined. So you've got to
kind of pick through and find the stuff you like,
but I would recommend Stan Ridgeway. Okay. So
I think that is all I have. Okay, I've got one
more here. And then we can wrap this up. Which
incarnation of Rainbow do you like the best?
Starts off with Ronny James Dio and his mystical
dungeon and dragon stuff with 20th century green
sleeves. Yeah. Kill the King, stuff like that.
Then they go to Graham Bonnet and his kind of
power pop. almost pop, heavy rock, with Essentially
Been Gone and stuff like that. And then it goes
to Joe and Turner's radio, heavy radio airplay
on in the United States. Do you have a favorite
version of that? Which version did My Woman from
Tokyo? Oh, that's purple. That was purple? Okay.
I'm going to go with The Grand Bonnet. Me too.
That was my favorite too. Because to me, the
Street of Dreams and all that was good, but it
didn't reach the apex that the other ones did.
The Graham Bonnet version, it seemed like Richie
Blackmore was relinquishing a little bit of control
and not everything had to go exactly his way,
which made for some better music. Yeah, and it
sucks because Graham Bonnet was such a... He
refused to do what people said, and Blackmore
told him not to cut his hair. And so he had a
guard. He kept saying, I'm cutting my hair, I'm
cutting my hair. And he had a guard at his hotel
room and he snuck out the window. Oh my gosh.
And went and got his hair cut. And Blackmore
fired him when he came up that next day. That's
crazy. Yeah. Isn't that something? That guy was
a control freak. Yeah, he was. Well, I get what
Blackmore was saying because the whole... You're
getting into the 80s. Yeah. Everybody had long
hair and had to look cool. And he's like, no,
we've got to do this because this is a part of
it. And he wanted his whole band to look cool.
So at the time, to look cool, it had to have
long hair. And also, Graham Bonham was a dorky
looking guy, too. He needed long hair. Long hair
helped get me into a band. In 95, I was auditioning
for a band called Weatherhead. And the singer...
And the keyboard player had long hair, but the
guitar player and the bass player did not. And
the drummer I was replacing did not. And they
had lost some gigs because the club owner was
like, now you guys just don't look the part.
I want long hair bands because that's what's
in. I could see that too, yeah. So when I auditioned,
and I did pretty well, and it was between me
and one other guy, and they picked me because
I had longer hair. And that sounds about right,
because a lot of that type of rock was like that.
You had to have a certain look. Yeah, a band
like Weezer had not been invented yet, where
you could go out and look like the high school
nerds, but you can put out this heavy, thrashing,
grungy, oversaturated guitar sound and everyone
loses their mind. Yes. They put out some pretty
heavy stuff considering how they looked. They
did. That was fun. All right. You want to shut
this bitch off? Let's do it. All righty. Hey,
thanks for listening, everybody. Go fuck yourself.
Bye.