Well, since the sports show can't be called toot toot bags with a microphone,
maybe we could just call them the sports bastards.
Hello?
These guys are inviting us to use hypodermic therapy.
Hi there. This is your ears.
Why are you listening to this garbage?
I thought we were friends.
Woohoo!
The sports bastards are on.
We are here.
And you expect us to be bummed out because we're chiefs, homers? No, we're not.
Nah, we're not bummed.
We've been there five out of six years. I'm pretty fucking sure we're going to be there a couple more times at least.
Eagles, you're on notice. It's payback time.
Hey, does this make Jaylen Hurts the second best quarterback in the league now?
Of course.
Ahead of Josh Allen?
Of course. Yeah, of course.
But on the other hand, if you were a general manager and you were going to draft a quarterback for just one season,
would you take Patrick Mahomes first and Jaylen Hurts second, or would you go for Josh Allen second?
Ooh, I think I would go with Josh Allen second.
I think I would too.
But no, if you look at the MVP status, Jaylen Hurts should have got it.
Yeah.
Yep, he's been snubbed.
No, we all know that the MVP is a joke.
Yeah, it's more popularity and...
It might as well be the runner-up. The runner-up MVP.
Because usually the man never gets it. The only time it really happened was with Patrick Mahomes.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
That's right. It is used as a consolation prize by the league.
It is, yeah. It means really nothing.
Participation trophy.
If you really went to Lamar Jackson and said, hey, what do you think about MVP?
He'd probably be like, uh-huh, it's okay.
He'd rather have a ring.
Yeah, yeah.
Because it generally is one or the other.
Yeah, or he might be emotional and go, fuck that. I want the ring.
Yeah.
So, yeah, MVP. Now, I said I wanted to start in this and I want to get into this right now.
This is real talk about the Chiefs. I'm going to go into Isaiah Pacheco.
Yeah.
Look, Cream Hunt didn't have a good game either.
But Cream Hunt has been getting in the end zone regularly. He's been coming up with big yards.
Yeah.
And P. Ryan is our third and fourth down specialist. Pacheco's done nothing.
He has never hit 1,000 yards. He's consistently been getting injured.
And if you absolutely need that yard, he's not there.
No.
He's not the one you go to. You go to Hunt or you go to P. Ryan mostly.
But if you need an end zone, do you ever go to Pacheco? No, you go to Hunt.
Yeah, his role has really changed.
He's not that good. We need to look for that number one guy.
Yeah.
Look, he's still on his rookie contract, so if you want to keep him on the practice squad or whatever, so be it.
But I think you need to look for that number one guy.
Yeah, I would say so.
A good running game will help that offensive line, which was putrid.
That's something that I hope they learn their lesson on is you can't go into the season with a question mark at such a key position.
I mean, a question mark at punter is okay.
But offensive line or any other key component, you don't go into the season with a big question mark.
Well, I'll put it like this. If there's a weakness in Brett Veach, it's been that.
The Tampa Bay one, well, that was a lot of injuries.
But the Tampa Bay loss and this loss, what was it primarily caused by?
No protection.
In that game, we didn't even score a touchdown against Tampa Bay, and Mahomes is on his ass about as much.
I don't care how good the quarterback is, you cannot throw a pass looking up at the sky.
I heard, I think it was Brady saying that Trey Smith was having a hell of a time doing his job.
He couldn't do it. He was getting shoved aside.
Just all of a sudden. I mean, he's been doing better.
I mean, he's doing well all season, but just this game, they figured him out, didn't they?
You know, I know. And this is where I don't believe this. Let me state this. I don't believe this.
But this is where the stuff comes from about it being rigged.
How can a team play that good all year and then suddenly just fucking lay on the ground in the fetal position?
It's hard to believe, but it does happen because of matchups and because of key positions.
I'll put it like this. Nick Seriano and what's his name, the defensive coordinator, Vic Fangio.
Those guys are brilliant. I mean, they came up with a system that beat us.
It didn't just beat us, it creamed our ass.
The game was never in doubt.
In question. No. From the start.
The Chiefs never had a sniff at the lead.
No. No.
Here's Isaiah Pacheco's numbers for the Super Bowl. Three carries for seven yards.
That is unacceptable.
A 2.3 average. And get this, his-
You and I could have probably done that.
I think so. His longest run was six yards.
Bullshit.
So you take that away, that means the other two rushes got a half yard each.
And that's how come he didn't stay in there and run routinely.
Kareem Hunt got three rushes for nine yards.
I think that they should have left-
I don't think of him like that. I love the guy.
I think Hunt should have been left in there longer.
They should have more place because he is an angry runner.
You have to put all your might into stopping him. If you don't, he's going to run you over.
I saw what the Eagles were doing is the Chiefs were able to shut down Barkley pretty early.
So they started throwing to him and he gained five or six yards on him.
It was brilliant.
That was as good as a run.
And then eventually the Chiefs had too much else to worry about and Barkley was able to start running.
But Jalen Hurts running really hurt.
Well if you like the Chiefs, if you throw a pass like that, they consider that a run.
So they probably do too. They're probably like, you know what? He's still running.
It's just he got the ball in the air.
Yeah.
So yeah, they beat us in every position.
Yeah, yeah, pretty much. I was looking for something the Chiefs were doing well. It was kind of nothing.
Point after.
Yeah. Did pretty well on...
Wharton had a good game.
Yeah. I think the punter had a good game.
Bolton had a terrible game.
He made a couple of decent plays.
He made a couple of decent plays, but he added a couple of penalties, which is uncharacteristic of him.
Is he up for a contract? I think he might be.
I don't know.
Well you've got to kind of try to keep him.
Yeah. Yeah. He's normally really, really good at the run game, run defense.
Yeah. So do you agree we have to go after another runner?
Yes, absolutely.
Well, I don't think free agency, we like to draft fourth round guys that can do it.
Hunt was a later rounder.
Jamal Charles back in the day, he was a late rounder.
You can get a good one third or fourth round, and they have a good eye for it, except for Pacheco.
I think Pacheco could have been better, but I don't know what happened somewhere.
But it's ran its course.
Okay.
I think they should go for a power back.
I think so too.
You've got enough guys you can dance and spin and squirt through a little hole.
I mean we've got that covered.
Is Carson Steele the guy? I don't think so.
I don't think so. I think he's kind of one dimensional.
If they'd been able to work with him, we would have seen a lot more of him during the season.
But after the first few games, he was just gone.
He was unreliable.
I doubt he makes this roster next year.
I doubt he does too. Him and his gator are going to be packed up somewhere else.
I think so. He was fun as a gimmick for this season, but it just didn't pan out.
Yeah. So they need to get the guy. They need to find him, identify him.
But first of all, their first round draft pick maybe ought to go to,
and I used to always think this was insane, an offensive lineman.
They need to find that guy that is going to shore up the side.
Yeah, if you can't find a tackle, then find a really great guard so you can move your guard to tackle.
Trey Smith is up for contract too, and I agree with you there.
Yeah, I'm sorry I was in the middle of that.
Trey Smith is up for contract. Okay.
Do you re-sign him after that? I mean he has been really good.
Was it just the scheme that killed him?
Man, that's a good question. I don't know.
Yeah, I mean if this is just kind of, oops, he had a bad game, then sure, re-sign him.
But you've got to look at the people who have him figured out now.
Against the 49ers, he had a good game. All season he had a good game.
But is he being exposed? Do you want to waste money?
Imagine if next season every other team is able to do what the Eagles did, and he's just a nothing.
Well, put it like this. You need a left tackle, right? Okay.
So do you want that many rookies in there? No.
Maybe you need to re-sign him or find someone else in free agency and let him go.
You need to have somebody, an experienced somewhat veteran in there.
Okay, you can't have all these rookies. That's going to lead to...
It's going to take a whole season to get them in shape.
Losing teams do that. Yeah.
We don't rebuild, we reload.
Yeah, and you're going to get Mahomes killed with another iffy offensive line.
Yeah. I'll tell you what, and also the game plan I thought was horrible.
Matt Nagy needs to go.
Yeah, I've lost all interest in Matt Nagy's.
Matt Nagy's not worth his shit. Yeah.
Look, I mean, what he was in Chicago, pretty much what he is here.
Yeah. I even saw, remember I pointed out to you that little scuffle?
Uh-huh. He went over there and got Mahomes' face, and Mahomes said something to him, and he left.
Yeah. And Mahomes did the body language, where his hands are up in there like,
fuck you, get out of here, you're not on there.
You wouldn't even look at him. Nuh-uh.
Yeah. You can tell he doesn't respect him.
Yep.
Matt Nagy needs to go. Yeah.
I would say that the running backs coach needs to go.
Yeah.
I would say that the offensive line coach needs to go.
Yeah, yeah.
Who else? Can you think of someone else who needs to go?
Um, gosh. I'm going to say whoever is in charge of like, the procedural penalties.
Some teams have like a quality control coach.
Yeah.
That kind of does that.
Fine-tuning.
Make sure you line up correctly, make sure you don't have multiple people in motion,
making sure that you don't have 12 or 10 guys on the field.
Because little things like that. Other teams got it worse, but that was enough this season to kill some drives.
I've got something to post to you here, and then we can go into the elephant in the room that I'm going to talk about here in a minute.
I think everybody knows elephant in the room.
Okay. I heard that Trey Smith was being held constantly, but it was in a way to where they couldn't really catch it.
He was being pulled to the ground instead of being pulled sideways.
Wow.
So, I kind of blame that on Trey Smith too. You can't put yourself in that position.
If they keep doing that, then you find a different way. I don't care if it's flipping around, I don't care if it's jumping to your knees, whatever.
You know, you have to find a different way to beat him.
If they're doing something like that, you figure out a trickery move that you can get him back.
So maybe when he's pulling you down, you can put your leg underneath there and trip him or something.
There's usually a counter move to some type of a move like that, and I've had a couple of people mention that.
So, I don't know if that's necessarily true. It kind of looked like it, but it's not enough to...
It's kind of like I couldn't overturn the play. I couldn't say that was going on.
Yeah, but to build on what you said, if he does a counter move, even if it draws a penalty on the off...
It's going to draw attention.
Yes, exactly.
And then he gets the right to go up and go, this guy is pulling me down constantly like this. Watch for it, please.
Yeah, tell him, I'm going to keep doing this because he's pulling me down.
Here's what he's doing, and this is the only defense I have, so I'm going to keep doing it until you make him stop doing that.
Yeah, you want a tripping penalty and then a holding penalty every other play. Is that what you want? Then stop this guy right now.
Yeah, that is absolutely a power that players have.
Yes, yep.
The other thing is I think Nick Sirianni had his thugs come over and threaten the Chiefs.
And they weren't black, so I did not stereotype the thugs.
There we go.
So there.
I would say he also had...
And they weren't Italian either, I don't know what denomination they had.
I would say he also had some crab-infested prostitutes go over and rub up against the Chiefs.
That's it, and they were too busy scratching.
Not saying what gender they were so nobody can get offended there.
And all this is parody, including the thug words, don't get your panties in a fucking uproar.
It's a sad fucking world when we've got to do this, isn't it?
Yeah, people watch horrid crap on TV and then they'll get offended because we said something.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh my God!
Priorities, I guess.
You guys need a fucking hobby. You need a fucking hobby.
Maybe you just need to masturbate more, I don't know.
Maybe, you've got to get that tension out of you somehow.
I mean, you're just full of angst.
You're like, fucking wind blows from the north, you're out there cussing at it.
You son of a bitch!
If you've ever watched that TV show, Mom, that was a running theme when the mother and daughter lived together for the most part.
And one of them, one of them would get extra cranky.
It was either you need to go to a meeting because they were alcoholics, or you need to go masturbate.
And generally speaking, they'd do one or the other and then be in a better mood.
Well, TV can do that.
Yeah, yeah.
Because radio is evil. Radio is evil, you can't do anything on that.
But CBS, you can tear a bra off a woman during the Super Bowl in the media.
No problem. It wasn't their fault. It was everybody on fucking radio's fault.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's amazing how they can show you something explicit and grotesque and sexual on TV.
And you're like, oh, well, it's just TV.
But you say something suggestive so that people's imaginations come up with the rest.
And then they get pissed because you exposed how dirty mind they have.
That's why they get angry.
Well, some of the better shock jocks do that or did that.
They would suggest something and leave it.
It's just like that's where I got the, for instance, Devonte Adams and Aaron Rodgers.
They have a strictly, strictly plutonic relationship.
You're saying something without saying it.
Yeah.
And there's no way they can pin you to it.
You go, hey, I said it was strictly plutonic. I don't know what you're talking about.
Or you could say it's absolutely untrue that Aaron Rodgers was caught masturbating in his locker after practice.
That's really not true that he was jacking off all over the punter's locker.
Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what I said is perfectly true, but the insinuation.
I think it's like one of the greats man cow I heard him say.
I think it might have been before he was out.
Oh, who's the white haired guy? Anderson Cooper.
Yeah.
I heard him say something like, I've seen someone that looked just like Anderson Cooper holding a guy's hand.
It looked like they're a couple. He looked just like him.
And I'm like, fucking brilliant.
Yep.
Fucking brilliant.
I'm pretty sure that was him because that was kind of like his trait was stuff like that.
Yeah. So, yeah, the radio can do stuff like that, too, obviously.
But CBS is like this. It's like, come here, give us your hand.
No more. No more.
So anyhow, yeah, we got off kind of on a tangent there.
So the elephant in the room, Travis Kelsey.
Yeah.
I'm sorry. He's going to water down the statistics and ruin his legacy, reputation, body of work, everything.
He needs to go.
Yeah. I thought I'd never say that.
I'm done with Kelsey because he's really not adding much to the game anymore.
He's blocking, but you want to pay that much for a blocker.
I think you said that a couple of days ago.
I'm like, you know.
You get all the people to block.
Yeah.
You can have another lineman come in and report as eligible.
Maybe no gray and a younger guy needs to come in and start trying it, you know.
But look, I love Travis Kelsey.
Me, too.
And I don't take great happiness or joy in saying he needs to retire.
I mean, he's been a good reason we've been winning so much.
Yeah.
But the fact is, I don't want to see him ruin his legacy.
I don't want to tarnish his image.
I think he needs to go ahead and step down.
And I know he don't want to step down like this, but I think if you go another season,
he might have such a subpar season where everyone's going to be going,
why is he still here anyhow?
If you're as old as I am, you'll remember the Chiefs in the...
They had that Super Bowl in 71 where they beat the Vikings.
And then Hank Stram, as the head coach, wouldn't fire anybody.
He wouldn't replace anybody on that team.
He kept them on 73, 74, 75.
And you still have these same old worn out guys who couldn't do it anymore,
but the coach just couldn't bring himself to cut them.
Yeah.
And Dawson got his ass killed back behind those horrible, horrible offensive lines
because there was too much loyalty.
Dick Vermeel did the same thing when he had a defensive coordinator that sucked.
Year after year, just season after season, utterly sucked.
And Dick Vermeel was so loyal, he wouldn't fire him.
The guy tried to quit and Dick Vermeel tried to talk him out of it.
I know.
So let's...
He had so much pushback from the public that he did have to step down.
Yeah, it was affecting season ticket sales.
Yeah. What was the name of the guy I forgot?
Oh, I'll have to look that up.
But let's hope the Chiefs organization does not have that same blind spot when it comes to Kelsey.
It wasn't Cunningham, was it?
It might have been.
Gunther?
No, no, no.
Gunther was a special team.
It wasn't Gunther.
No, because Gunther, they made him a head coach.
Yeah.
And he said he spent like 23 hours a day on that.
And they're like, well, that's probably not your thing.
Who is Dick Vermeel's defensive coordinator with the Chiefs?
They're not even telling me.
Well...
Well, that guy must have been an ass bag.
Yeah.
It's like, you don't need to know.
You don't need to know.
You know, that kind of highlights how crappy search engines are.
Oh, they suck.
They used to try to get you the information you were looking for.
Now they steer the search into what they can advertise to you.
Yeah.
Because I've searched for stuff and it just brings up something similar and sort of related, but way easier to advertise to me.
Well, I brought up at work, I think yesterday, I said, you know, Google, they don't give you the closest gas station.
They give you the gas station that paid them to tell you they're there.
You'll pass five gas stations a lot closer to go to the one that paid them to tell you they're there.
Yeah.
And they might even pretend that those other gas stations are closed because there's no punishment for them lying to you.
No, they could say it's a complete mess up.
It said on our system here that they're closed.
We're sorry.
We're going to work on that.
None of these GPS services are under any obligation to tell you the truth.
Nope.
They're just not.
There's 10 pages of disclaimers.
Somewhere in there you signed your first born soul over to them.
You know why they pay lawyers so much money?
Because they create these 10 fucking pages that saves their ass on every dirty little thing that they do.
Every now and then, legislation will pop up to try to get these ridiculous end user license agreements paired down to simplicity.
But then the lawyers who we elected to Congress say, nah.
And also another thing is they throw those through Congress when they're trying to pass through something they don't want you to know.
Yeah.
Everyone is looking at Dad going, oh, what a great bill.
Come here.
Hey, Bill, come here.
Look at this.
You know those 10 pages.
They're trying to get it simple.
Oh, that's good.
Then meanwhile, they're spending fucking $30 trillion on a shoelace.
So that's where the government works there.
Or they're funneling money or all kinds of stuff.
I mean, look, man, the government, like the mafia always said, the government doesn't want us to exist because we're their direct competition.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Yeah.
And pretty much I don't feel like a citizen of this country so much as I feel like livestock.
Yeah.
I feel like the government is farming me.
And that's pretending that organized crime exists.
And that's pretending that the government is corrupt.
Of course.
Yeah.
Of course.
They are not corrupt.
Not at all.
No.
I remember my grandmother was such a staunch pro-government and pro-Republican and conservative type person.
And she was advocating towards eliminating the people's right to any kind of privacy from the government.
Her attitude was, I don't have any secrets to hide.
I'm not doing anything wrong.
The government can see whatever they want.
Completely missing the point.
Yeah.
Go ahead.
She said, well, if the government's not doing anything wrong, then they should open up to us.
Nothing should be classified.
Yeah.
They should be like, here you go.
Unless they're doing something wrong or evil, they should be able to share everything with us.
And she blew her stack.
It sounds to me like she was not...
She had a bill of sale ingrained in her head that didn't exist, but she thought it did.
And she was not willing to listen to any reality.
Yeah.
She voted straight Republican.
I mean, she just pulled the lever that automatically...
Oh, I know a lot of Democrats like that too.
Oh man.
And my mom asked her once, if the Republican party nominated a chimpanzee for president, would you vote for him?
And she said, yeah, if the Republican is nominated, then he's probably the best person for the job.
So yeah, I'd vote for him.
That was how much of a cult member she was.
Oh yeah.
And I'm not saying just Republicans.
No, no, no, no.
You can be a cult member of any political movement.
That's why I'm coming up with this right here is in case anyone thinks we're going either way.
Well, thanks for going either way.
We're not.
No.
Okay.
We think both parties have...
I think all parties.
Yeah.
All of them have their evils.
Yes.
So the Democrats really thought that they could put anybody in office to run against
Trump and look what happened.
Not only did they lose the presidency, they lost both Congresses.
What just happened?
It's still going.
Oh, okay.
It sounded different in our headphones.
I know.
That's weird.
They just threw somebody in there without giving them any primaries or any type of an
election system about who they really wanted.
And I know several really big Democrats that were given money that were somewhat influential
that said, I'm not doing it.
This pisses me off.
We have no say so in the candidate and I wanted so and so to run.
I don't think this person needed to run.
It's a good reminder that the Democratic National Committee, just like the Republican National
Committee, they are a private organization that makes up their own rules that can do
whatever they want.
They have to follow federal guidelines and laws on elections, but they are a private
group who can do things their way, elect anybody they want, yank anyone back that they want.
They can put up a mouse for president if they want.
They're under no obligation to do things the way we think they should.
They're a private organization.
They're like the Shriners or any other private group.
Hey, look, they're passing around pistachio pudding.
Oh, hang on.
Let me get it.
Fuck, he turned the other way.
I think I'm going to have to just go get our coffee.
They're not going to bring our coffee to us.
I know.
I'm going to go get our coffee.
Maybe we can get back to football when we're done.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, Topher had us on pause there, and he got our coffees.
So I had to use the bathroom, and I want to bring up something.
Val just got that new Renegade, right?
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Well, he sent me an email because Val never checks for emails, so we gave the car dealership
our email.
So evidently, Sirius XM, I've had this happen on my Trailhawk too, is this right here.
They find out when you purchase a car, and then they spam you and go, your free trial
membership is waiting for you in the car.
So I'm like, okay, is this really free?
I look at it, and you have to give them your credit card number before they let you listen.
It's not free, in my opinion.
No, it's not.
Because if you don't call up and cancel at the exact right moment, then they just start
billing you.
Yes, and they never stop unless you get fraud on that card and shut it down or something,
or call up and say no more.
I had a really bad experience with Sirius XM.
I bought a used pickup truck that had it installed, and they sent me a message saying, we'll give
you a free 30-day trial.
And it was really free, and they just turned it on.
And for 30 days, I got to listen.
And then there was one afternoon, I was sitting in the truck listening, and it just went off,
because the 30 days expired.
I was like, oh, all right.
And then six months later, I decided to go ahead and subscribe.
Getting unsubscribed was a nightmare.
It is, because they never stop trying to get you to keep your credit card.
Every time I said, I want to cancel, they'd say, well, what if I offer you, and then they'd
come up with a new deal?
And she'd talk and talk and talk, and when I finally get a word in, I say, no, no more
deals, no nothing.
I want to cancel, and that's it.
Well, how about if I offer, and she did that four times.
Four times, and kept me on the phone for 15 minutes, and it was just a nightmare.
And I vowed I'm never going near Sirius XM again.
I did the same thing.
It pissed me off so bad.
The guy goes, how about four months free?
I go, well, are you going to charge my card as soon as that's over?
Well, yeah, no.
I said, if it's really free, then do it without my card.
Oh, I can't do that.
And I said, well, I can't do it either.
Yep.
That's why I eventually tell them, do it without the card, because you guys can shut it off.
You have no problem shutting it off.
Yeah.
So just do that.
You don't need my credit card.
Well, that's not how it works.
That was the other day, the store advertised buy one, get one half off.
But I had to put my phone number in first, and I said, I don't want to put my phone.
I don't want to share my phone number.
Well, then you're not getting the half off.
And I said, fine, then I don't want it.
And I just left it there and walked out.
That is bullshit.
It is.
Yeah.
I was going to say, oh, well, doesn't matter.
Let's get back to sports.
All right.
OK, so we think that Travis Kelsey, for the good of him, let alone the Chiefs, for the
good of him, he needs to go ahead and retire.
His career isn't what it was by age.
He was one of the best ever, if not the best ever.
Let's leave it.
We love you.
And I hope you do great outside of football.
I think you will.
Now, let's disregard all the people who are going to say they want to keep him for sentimental
reasons because they like him and they like Taylor and he's nice and he's been here for
it.
Let's put all those people aside.
Yeah.
Let's talk about how much he costs the Chiefs versus how much he's giving the Chiefs.
So he's expensive because he's been really good.
He's also expensive just because he's been in the league a certain number of years and
at that position.
There is a minimum amount that the Chiefs can pay him.
He's going to be really expensive as a tight end with this many years in.
So if you're not getting tens of millions of dollars of production out of him for the
next season, it's stupid to pay him.
Yeah, you're right.
It is just stupid.
Even if you can't get somebody to really take his place, you're saving the money.
And then next season you can get the guy to take his place or you can trade for a mid
season or something.
But you don't just keep throwing money at Travis Kelsey because you like him.
Maybe if he had a couple offensive linemen that could hold their own, he could throw
to a receiver downfield.
And you know what?
There are teams in the league that use a five wide receiver set.
They take the tight end completely out.
Hey, they do fine too.
Yeah, they score a lot of points.
They're scary too.
Imagine the Chiefs could, they could do that.
They haven't because Kelsey isn't there.
In fact, if you go to Madden football and you look at the Chiefs playbook, there isn't
a single formation that takes the tight end out.
Not one.
Yeah.
You know, yeah, and they could do an intermittent one.
Yeah.
Yeah, that's true.
They never do.
That's a great point.
They never take the tight end out.
Yep.
And now that Kelsey is not producing.
Is that because the blocking scheme maybe?
I don't know.
I never understood that though.
I'm glad you brought that up.
Yeah.
I think it might be a flaw in their system because people are figuring it out.
Yeah.
And this is where I go back to Matt Nagy and maybe even Andy Reid too.
You know, Andy Reid has a lot of say in this too.
True.
As good as he is, I think he has his flaws and I think some of them have been exposed.
I mean, look, he's smart enough coach to change it.
Yeah.
He's not like one of these ones like Schottenheimer that would like, been like this forever and
I'm not going to stop.
Yeah.
He's a guy that's going, you know what, maybe you're right.
Maybe I need to do this or that.
He seems to be influential to people that would know.
So I could see him maybe doing an all receiver, five receiver set or whatever, intermittent.
I don't see him ever getting rid of the tight end completely.
No, no.
You know, the run and shoot teams used to do that, but you need to be able to have that
weapon in your arsenal that you can run five receivers out there and put them all out in
patterns and tear the defense to cover them all.
You have to have a very special core of people to do that.
From what I've seen, Hollywood Brown, D Hopkins, I'm sorry, like him as people, but I don't
know.
Yeah.
I don't know.
You know, D Hopkins, you can sign him back, but he's still taking a roster spot.
Yeah.
You'd have to sign him for the minimum because I wouldn't pay any more for him and say, Hey,
you want to go to the Superbowl again and try it again?
Yeah.
Then you'll, you know, you'll take our offer here and we're sorry, this is what we have
to offer.
This is all we got.
So I think it might be up to him at the end of the day, but there's still that roster
spot that's very valuable.
Yeah.
So I don't know.
Hollywood Brown was on a one year, I found out.
He's up.
I don't think you re-signed him.
I wouldn't say so.
I wouldn't think so.
No.
He was injured and then when he got done, when he healed, he didn't do anything.
Nothing.
It was like he wasn't even in there most plays.
Let's take a look at receiving here.
Okay.
Deandre Hopkins was targeted five times.
He missed that big one.
He caught two for 18 yards in a touchdown.
Five times.
Targeted five times.
He missed that sure touchdown.
Hollywood Brown targeted six times, caught two for 15 yards.
Unacceptable.
Xavier Worthy caught everything thrown his way.
157 yards.
Yeah.
Juju Smith-Houster caught both times he was targeted, both times he caught it.
But the big guys, Hopkins and Brown, they caught about a third of the ones thrown their
way.
A third.
Rashi Rice next year is going to take one of those spots very well.
He was working on a fantastic career, maybe counterpart to Tyreek Hill.
I look for him to keep ascending, but let's go to Worthy.
Worthy got the record.
I know it was later on in the game, but he still caught it and he still ran, not to mention
how he saved the game in Buffalo by not giving up on the ball.
Worthy is going to be better than Tyreek Hill if he doesn't get injured.
Oh, I think so too.
I think he's going to be a lot better, significantly better.
He's already shown that he's not as selfish.
No, not at all.
No, he's a great player.
I think Worthy and Rice right there is a really good nucleus to what we need.
If you want to keep Hopkins, maybe Brown, no, Brown's got to go.
He wasn't that good in Arizona, was he?
I don't think he was.
He was okay.
Yeah, I don't think the Chiefs would have gotten him unless he was on the downside of
his career.
Yeah, because they don't pay for receivers and I agree with them.
I think you have to, okay, let's go by the Chiefs.
Now, we're going to do a drafting special, right?
Yeah.
We'll go into it more.
So their number one need would be offensive linemen.
Okay, so they have their number one pick.
I got a question.
They need runner, they need a runner.
Some of these they could go after in free agent.
True.
Okay, the number one need I would consider would be the offensive linemen, maybe left
tackle.
I don't know if they're going to re-sign Trey Smith.
They've got a lot of holes there.
Now, like I said, you can't go all rookie up there.
True, true.
You could probably get away with one rookie next season on the O-line.
Yeah, you could probably do that.
They missed so badly on, shit, I forgot his name now.
Brent something was the left tackle supposed to be.
Yeah, I forgot, yeah.
He was so bad that they didn't bring him back after what?
Was it the first or second game?
I think the first game they pulled him and then they put him in for a couple plays because
of injury late in the season.
But then he was horrible.
But then they yanked him the hell out of here again.
So apparently he's just.
He's never seen again.
Apparently he's just awful.
Word is he is way too slow.
That's killer for a lineman, especially a tackle.
You got to be fast.
Yeah, and also timing too.
You got to have that timing down.
It looked to me like he didn't have the timing down and probably slow, but I couldn't really
tell the slow part.
I mean, every organization can miss on some draft picks, but this is one that we're going
to start adding to the pile of are they really slipping on the draft?
Because I mean, we had Sky Moore who was nothing.
Yeah, Sky Moore was a big polish, the heaping shit.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
OK, they missed on Sky Moore and look what that did and that set them back in the receiving
court.
That made them go get in a Hollywood brown.
Yeah.
So that was a wasted spot.
Dee Hopkins, I'm kind of on the fence.
I think you can get him really cheap.
Yeah, I bring him back.
I bring him back.
You get him cheap.
You bring him back.
Help let him mentor the younger receivers that you're going to get.
But if you can find another fit like Worthy or even kind of close to it, you go for that.
I think you have to have speed on the sides and that's what you're going to have.
Yeah, your outside guys and then.
Rice and Gray.
And if you're not going to have such a big net.
Yeah, Watson's a good one.
If you're not going to have such a big emphasis on throwing the ball to Kelsey, then you're
also going to want some receivers who are really good.
I think it's going to work because you're not looking for Kelsey.
You're actually looking for other people.
There's been quite a few times.
And look, Mahomes is one of the best ever, not the best ever.
I'm not dogging him.
But he's missed receivers looking for Kelsey, the sure guy.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Yeah, so I think some of the horrible crap throws Mahomes made during that game.
We backed one up and watched it.
Oh, my God.
Stopped it right at the moment he was about to throw.
And we were just looking at like, oh, my God, why would you ever throw in that?
He was projecting because he was running for his life.
He was he wasn't thinking I'm going to look the right throw left.
He didn't have that kind of time.
He was looking right at the receiver he was trying to get.
And they're reading his eyes because they put so much pressure on him.
You could see.
Fuck, I forgot the I think it's the safety that got him one.
I think it was.
Yeah.
Shit.
Well, anyhow.
Yeah, I mean, you can fake him out for a while, but eventually you're so tired and so fatigued
and you've done it so often you forget the safety was headed the other way.
Saw his eyes and double backed and caught the ball right in front of the receiver.
And look, anyone being that close, that questionable, it was a bad play.
No home should have never thrown it.
Both interceptions.
The first one I could kind of get around.
The second one was horrible.
Horrible.
But that's what happens when you have someone that has to take the game on their back and
win it for them.
They should have ran more.
Absolutely.
I don't care if they got one yard.
Hunt Hunt is a brutal runner.
You wear down that line a little bit.
You throw some quick routes.
We're down a little bit more.
They're expecting run.
They get a quick route.
Oh, shit, man.
Oh, God.
He just got eight yards.
Then when they're like kind of like staying back a little bit, you run again and then
you get four or five yards.
They're like, well, shit.
Okay.
We got to be cautious of both now.
And that's exactly what they did.
Yeah.
I know coaches are worried about empty possessions.
No.
You don't get scores and you don't even get flip field position.
You set them up.
You're setting them up for later.
Yeah.
And you go out there and if you're first down, you throw a pass.
It's incomplete.
Second down, you get sacked.
Third down, you throw a pass and it's incomplete.
You might as well have run the ball three times.
Yeah.
Because there's an empty possession throwing the ball.
Run the ball instead.
This whole time, Mahomes is reading the defense.
The defensive coordinator, Spagnolo, is reading the defense.
He's seeing their tendencies.
They're writing them down.
They're figuring them out.
We couldn't keep their defense on the field long enough for the chiefs to figure it out.
No, that's another problem too.
So well, okay.
We started off, we're going to need linemen first.
Second off, would you go runner, running back or another lineman?
Maybe another lineman.
Yeah.
I'd say running back and wait until middle rounds or free agency.
Yeah.
Running back, you can go way later.
That's our second need is a running back, but you can get him probably third or fourth
round very easily.
Pacheco, I think, was fourth and Hunt was third, something like that.
Yeah.
Well, anyhow, they were later round ones.
Pacheco, wasn't he seventh rounder?
He was the seventh rounder.
That's right.
Well, he's kind of playing like it.
He is now.
Yeah, that's true.
I've never thought that much of him.
Everybody else did.
Or I don't know if you did, but everybody else thought he was like this fucking thing
as good as pancakes.
Yeah.
No.
I never saw him like that.
That was the spin on him when they introduced him.
Yeah.
We all got excited about him.
Yeah, but then when I saw him actually doing something, he never hit a thousand yards ever,
did he?
You looked up his stats, didn't you?
And we're off again.
Okay.
So we had a little technical difficulty there, but we seem to have got it working.
So I forgot what I was in the middle of.
Okay.
All right.
We were talking about Pacheco not having a hundred yard game.
Okay.
Yeah.
I never thought he was that much and you observed the spin like I did and was first excited
and then kind of going, hmm, I hope he's got more.
He's been injured regularly too.
Yeah.
I think you keep hunt, you got him for nothing and he's going to stay for nothing because
he really has no options other than that.
He wants a ring.
He wants redemption.
So, so yeah, I think he's going to stay put.
You can get him and I think that he's a good guy that you could have on the second or,
you know, P Ryan, I think you keep him.
I think he's earned his keep and he's on the cheap.
So you have this glaring hole, the number one guy and I think that Pacheco is the guy,
the odd man out.
I think so too.
I think you make him earn his spot in a training camp with this new rookie.
And it's not like Edward Zellare was going to be any better.
Oh no.
Edward Zellare was worse.
Yeah.
He was, he was already done and he was just hanging on the roster for personal reasons
between him and the chiefs.
Yeah.
It sure seems like that.
Yeah.
You might as well have brought a pillow.
Yeah.
Here.
Are you comfy?
Are you okay, Edward?
Are you all right?
Okay.
We'll be back later.
Night night.
He was never going to sniff the field again.
No, no.
So you find this runner, you identify him third, fourth round, fifth round, whatever, wherever
you think he's going to land, you get this guy.
Maybe you look at the scrap heap.
The scrap heap is full of running backs.
It could have been that people overlook all the time.
Yeah.
So, look at the scrap heap and we've been very good at that.
I mean, I've seen Brett Veach pick someone off the scrap peach and then trade them for
a draft pick.
Yeah.
They're on the practice squad.
Like a free draft pick.
Yeah.
And you get a guy for one, maybe two or three years if you're lucky, but one year is enough.
Yeah.
You prop the guy up too.
I know they do this.
They make them look fantastic.
That way other people are like, other teams are like, you see that guy on the practice
squad?
Yeah.
Then they go get him for a draft pick and then you got a draft pick and they got garbage.
So.
Yeah.
And then you give away a bunch of jerseys with that player's number on it.
So people will be seen wearing it and that'll make people want to go buy it.
Yeah.
Oh look, they're buying his jersey.
Oh no, they got it for free.
I can tell you this.
I'm going to stay away from number 10.
Yeah.
Hill and Pacheco.
I think Pacheco's probably on his way out too.
Yeah.
I think number 10 is not the number to have right now with the Chiefs.
Yeah.
Of course you got stuck with the Hunt one, but now it's the wrong number, but he's back.
Yeah.
No.
I would have had a Hunt jersey too.
I love the guy.
He was my second favorite player next to Mahomes.
Yeah.
And he still is.
I still like the guy.
I think that he got wrapped up in something bad that he shouldn't have really.
Yeah.
Do like all the other ones and have your friends go do the dirty work.
Mm-hmm.
That way you can be in the room and go, I had no idea it happened.
Yeah.
So anyhow.
And we really don't know the kind of pressures that those guys are on.
Some of the stuff that I read about the girl and what she was doing, I understand why they're
kicking her out besides her being underage.
Yeah.
So yeah.
It really seemed like she was there trying to bait him into a lawsuit.
Yes.
That really seemed to be.
But that doesn't excuse how she was treated.
I mean there are ways you could have dealt with it that didn't involve any kind of violence.
I'm not okay in the violence.
No, no, no.
Nothing like that.
No.
What I'm saying is they could have handled it much better.
Yeah.
She shouldn't have been there in the first place.
They should have better screening.
Yeah.
It's not like she was walking by selling cookies and he just attacked her.
Yeah.
That would be different.
That's what I'm saying.
That would be different.
I think there's a reason they went after.
They should not have done it like that.
But anyhow, we can move on from that.
Okay.
So running back would be probably their second really pertinent need.
What about defense?
I'm trying to think.
I think you could still use another good corner.
I think so too.
Maybe linebacker.
Yeah.
Hicks is decent.
He's decent.
Watson's decent.
Yeah.
Watson's decent.
But I think Watson might still be a little slow because of his injury.
Ever since he came back, he's been good, but not the ascension that he was doing.
But then again, we were facing top notch competition.
True.
So I think you need another corner back.
And if you can't get a good corner, get a really awesome safety.
Yeah.
McDuffie is fucking awesome.
If you have that other guy on the other side, he's unstoppable.
So Reed is really good, but you could probably use another free safety anyhow.
So those guys, I think, D-lineman, I don't know.
I think we're okay on D-line.
I think so too.
Wharton, you're going to have to re-sign him.
He's been on the ascension and he had a really good Super Bowl despite the team's effort.
He's come through in a couple of Super Bowls.
Yeah.
Yeah, he has.
I see.
There are some needs on the defense, but I mean, they have to address a lot of these.
But a lot of the offense, I think, can correct itself.
All the needs are there that we said on the offense.
But it can correct itself with better play calling.
True.
The play calling on this Super Bowl was horrendous.
Yeah, I'm glad they didn't run any ridiculous gadget or gimmick plays, but at the same time,
they were calling the wrong plays.
And they were calling plays that took way too long to develop.
I saw the pass rush.
Didn't they see the pass rush?
You don't have time to hand the ball off three times and then stand there.
Also the ardor revenge.
Yeah.
Okay, we beat them and we did it on the slide too.
We ran out of time.
We kicked a field goal and they were just chomping at the bit.
They're going to go, oh, we're going to run down there and then we're going to tush push
a two point and we're going to win and Andy Reid's like, no, you're not.
We're going to lay down.
You're letting my guy run in.
He called everybody to the side of the field and they said, don't go in the end zone.
Lay down right before they're going to let you in the end zone.
You see them all stand back.
And who was it?
Williams was it?
Or?
P-Ryne.
P-Ryne?
No, the one before it was Jarek McKinnon.
McKinnon.
Yeah, McKinnon laid down and this is the first Super Bowl with a Philadelphia.
He laid down and you can see Philadelphia.
Oh, fuck.
Yeah.
It's like they were counting on us to stop the clock by scoring.
Yes.
But we didn't.
We just decided to run the clock down.
He laid down and everyone's like, oh shit.
So their only hope was to block a field goal and then you go in overtime tied.
So I think they felt kind of ripped off by that and they had every, they did have every
chance of winning that game and they just kind of ended up a little short of time.
So they could have won that game easily, but they didn't.
So I think they stewed over it and stewed over it.
They didn't make it last year.
They're kicking the can.
They see us do it again and they're like, motherfuckers.
And I mean, they came to us with extra ump, extra might and extra anger.
And I'm seeing what people are talking about is with the way the Chiefs win is they come
up with some miraculous, crazy thing that we get.
They don't blow teams out.
They're not like out there crushing teams like in the Super Bowl with the Bears.
They just dismantled the Patriots and they never had a chance.
Oh, systematically.
The Chiefs don't do that.
We either barely win or we get demolished.
So I can see how people say they're not really such a good team as a very, very lucky team.
Well, okay.
This is the other thing I wanted to go into also.
Now this right here is, okay, let's rewind the season.
How many games could have went either way?
There is two fantastic plays.
I mean, one was kind of us, kind of not.
And that was the Raiders fumbling and we win that game.
We could have easily lost that game.
They could have not fumbled and ran out time, kicked the field goal.
Denver with the blocked kick.
Okay.
They could have not blocked that kick by an inch.
Okay.
Those two games right there, suddenly you're going from, let's see at the time, one loss.
I'm going to say three losses.
Okay.
Um, another one.
There's a couple other lucky ones in there.
Let's say you lost that one and you're in a tie with Denver because you won one, lost
one.
Um, this is assuming they lost that last game.
Um, okay.
They could have very easily not made the division, um, championship.
They could have with a couple other plays going the other way.
Cause that one play, yeah, they would have lost to Denver.
They would have had that one.
Um, so, and then they had to head contact.
Uh, they could have lost that.
I don't know.
I don't have the stuff in front of me, but they very easily could have.
With a couple of plays, let's say all together, 30 seconds of time, they could have lost the
division and been a wild card.
Yeah.
So, um, now they beat everybody on their way there.
Yes.
They beat the Texans.
They beat the Bills and then they, uh, yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
The Ravens beat the Bills, beat the Ravens.
Um, okay.
So they beat everybody on the way there.
Yes.
And we do have the champions.
Do what?
I was thinking of when they beat the Ravens in the regular season.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
That was, well, that was another one.
Yeah.
That, that was by like three inches or whatever.
Okay.
So that's another one.
So they have an 11 and 16 that lost the division to Denver.
Yes.
So if you look at it like that, yeah, I, I always say this too.
You create your own luck.
You come up with a couple of situations where you're doing good.
You have to ride that.
Yeah.
And if you keep riding it and keep doing things right, that luck will follow you.
Yeah.
So you're capitalizing on the good things instead of, instead of just like, oh great,
that was fun.
And then move on and say, no, capitalize on that.
Make it count for something.
Yeah.
It's the way of the universe.
Yeah.
It really is.
Look, you can chalk it up to whatever you want, but it happens every time.
You get in a groove, you get into that certain ump, you get into that suave, you get into
that swagger.
It is hard to knock people off of their swagger.
Yeah.
And that's where the luck comes in.
Good results tend to bring in more good results.
Yes.
It really is a self-enforcing, reinforcing system.
It is.
That's why it's so tough to knock them off.
Yep.
Yeah.
So, um, so, um, they are responsible.
You are what your record is, but just a couple other things.
And I mean, they could have been a four or five lost team.
Yeah.
Maybe even six losses.
Who knows?
They could have been at least a four lost team easily and lost the division to Denver.
Yeah.
So, this team might have overachieved.
Andy Reid might have over-coached.
Yeah.
And maybe this team didn't really deserve to be there all along.
Could be.
They kind of looked like it, didn't they?
For instance, Marty Schottheimer.
Oh, yeah.
He was asked before the dementia really kicked in, what was your best coaching ever?
You're thinking, oh, San Diego, Kansas City, Washington.
He said he had no talent on that team and he coached it to nine and seven.
He was so proud of that.
He didn't care about the, you know, going to the championship game, you know, or San
Diego with Philip Rivers or nothing like that.
Or Cleveland.
He had some good times in Cleveland, too.
Bernie Kozar maybe was it?
Yeah.
Yeah, okay.
He did really well in Cleveland, too.
He had a lot of tough playoff wins, one of them was a famous drop at the one yard line.
All they had to do was run out of time.
Yeah, Denver really crushed him.
Ernest Beiner.
Yes, Ernest Beiner.
So, okay.
Marty Schottheimer's most proud moment was at Washington Redskins team that didn't go
to the playoffs.
Yeah.
He made it to nine and seven.
So, that should tell you something about over-coaching.
Yeah.
Andy Reid could have very easily over-coached this team.
And then when they got to Philadelphia, it was like, it ain't working this time.
Yeah.
So, okay.
You could look at it like that.
But either way, we have deficiencies in this team that we need to correct.
Very much so.
So, anyhow, Topher, let's have some of your thoughts now on this.
I was thinking about the comparison between Mahomes and Brady at this point in his career.
Both of them won three of the first five Super Bowls.
Both of them did pretty poorly in the ones they lost.
Well, that's a good point I didn't think about.
Yeah, they looked horrible in the ones they lost.
And now Brady and the Patriots dynasty that everyone's comparing it to, they went 10 years
without sniffing the playoffs.
I know.
And then they came back again and got dismantled in an early round playoff game.
It started with the Matt Castle year.
They had some really, really bad seasons and they had some really embarrassing playoff
exits.
People tend to not think about those.
No, you're right.
So the Chiefs are actually, at the very least, on par with Brady at this point in his career.
Everything that's happened, it's pretty much pretty dead even.
I would agree.
And also, it started with that ACL tear.
The first game against the Chiefs, Brady tore his ACL and was out the rest of the season.
That's where Matt Castle came in and was coached up enough for us boobs to take him as a starter.
Todd Haley and company thought that he was going to be all that.
But he did coach him to a Pro Bowl.
That ass bag he coached to a Pro Bowl.
But they had the Matt Castle.
Scott Piolli.
I was trying to remember that Scott Summoner is Scott Piolli.
Scott Piolli's biggest claim to fame was this and it's something not good.
And that was, who was the guy that killed himself?
He killed his girlfriend.
Seau?
No, no, no.
Oh, the linebacker guy.
Yeah, the linebacker for the Kansas City Chiefs.
He killed his girlfriend and then he went to Arrowhead.
And killed himself.
Yeah, but Piolli was there passionately trying to talk him out of it.
They didn't know he killed his girlfriend or nothing at the time, but they were passionate.
Piolli was a good human person, but not a very good, this guy's talent, this is a person.
So I suppose he was probably the right guy for the right time for then.
But now we're winning.
So we have the people in place.
And I forgot where I was going with that.
Oh, we were talking about Matt Castle.
Yeah.
Okay.
So that started with that.
He got injured.
Okay.
So and then after that when he came back, he wasn't quite the same for a while.
And then the cap caught up to him for a couple of years.
True.
So I think the Chiefs could actually better what they did right now.
If Mahomes doesn't get injured, the cap hasn't quite caught up to him yet.
True.
Yeah, they've been kicking the can down the road.
And one of these days is going to be like, well, we got to go all rookies.
I'm sorry.
We're going to be re-building for the next six, 12 years.
Yeah.
So that's what happened in my estimation.
Remembering back and looking back, if I'm remembering and looking back at it correctly,
it started with Brady wasting the year being on the out of work list there, the injury
list, injury reserve.
So out of work list.
Going back to my union days.
Yeah I remember that.
The good old people come up, you see the out of work list?
No, I don't want to fucking hear it.
Go ahead.
Well, another mention, we were talking about the cap.
Since Myles Garrett now says he wants out of Cleveland because he straight up said,
I can't get a ring here.
No, I know.
I don't blame him.
He was so, that letter that he wrote was beautiful.
And I'm really glad that he spelled it out exactly what the truth is.
And now the fans can face it is, yeah, our team isn't going to get a ring.
Let's do something about it.
Yeah.
I'm so glad he didn't sugar coat it.
Yeah.
Just get all rookies.
Play them.
Look, at the very last, you're going to get fucking three or four really good draft picks
in a row and build.
So if you don't blow them.
Yeah.
Well, right now the Browns are 30 million over the cap.
Yeah.
And that's because Deshaun Watson.
Uh-huh.
And if they trade Myles Garrett, that'll put him 46 million over the cap.
Ooh.
And then they have to go out and spend to get people.
Okay.
If they cut people that are over the cap, they're going to be cutting some good people.
Yeah.
Um, people that want a ring might be interested in Kansas City instead of the money.
Yeah.
That's how San Francisco got the bunch of their Super Bowls.
Nick Chubb.
Yeah.
Nick Chubb.
Oh, him and I would be reunited.
Wow.
That would solve our running back problem.
Mm-hmm.
Mahomes would have all sorts of play action opportunities.
If I was the Chiefs right now, I'd be on the phone going, hey, you let us know the set.
Well, I guess they can't do that.
That'd be tampering.
Yeah.
There's a certain point at which they can start.
You have a guy on the corner whispering his ear.
Yeah.
It's like, you know, Andy Reed's cousin-in-law will go talk to the Cleveland coaches dog
walker and pass the message along.
Then you have Mahomes and Kelsey tweet out his number.
Oh, there you go.
Yeah.
Then he's going, huh?
Nothing they can do about it.
I'm just a fan of his, man.
I love him.
You can sneak all sorts of things through.
Oh, yeah.
Now with social media, you can sneak everything in.
There was one I saw this morning.
A guy was putting out a tweet that was criticizing Elon Musk but not being too nasty.
And then at the bottom in the hashtags, there was a hashtag that said, I wonder if he would
survive being stabbed 17 times.
And you sneak that into the hashtags and it's not a thread.
It's just a hashtag, which is a search term.
Oh my gosh.
You can sneak all sorts of shit through.
No, I have seen stuff.
Like, what would you call it, like, oh, sarcastic stuff.
I have a picture of somebody, best guy ever, down below, ass bag of the year, hashtag,
stuff like that.
Yes.
Yeah.
So, yeah, the Chiefs have a lot of doing.
And the other thing that they have to do is the rest of, here is what they got to battle
Patrick Mahomes in the same division.
Sean McVeigh, Jim Harbaugh, and now Pete Carroll.
Did all of them win a Super Bowl?
Yes they did.
Yes they have.
All of them are very clever and crafty in developing quarterback.
Oh no, no, Harbaugh did not.
He went to a Super Bowl.
He did not win.
That was his brother won against him.
Two of those three teams have a clear number one quarterback.
Yes.
The Raiders do not, but Pete Carroll identified Russell Wilson when he was good.
Yeah.
I think Pete Carroll is going to figure something out.
I'm sure Pete Carroll was preparing to re-enter the league all season long, because if he was
ready he was, you know, getting the word out there as, hey, I'm available.
He was doing all his prep work, presuming he would get a head coaching job because he
wanted to hit the ground running.
Yeah, he's got a definite job.
So he's already identified somebody, or two somebodies he's going after.
That's Tom Brady, okay.
Tom Brady's probably a consultant to him behind the scenes.
But he is a guy like Andy Reid that can scheme you nine to seven routinely.
He can scheme a win against you by just doing the right things.
He is that type of a coach.
He's an upper echelon coach.
How many times did he scheme Seattle that they really didn't have anything, but he
schemed them to legitimacy?
Yeah, yeah.
There were some of those teams that were definitely overachievers.
Yeah, Geno Smith on some of them.
I mean, before he was let go or quit or, I don't know, I'm not even sure what happened.
So yeah, all this competition in the division, it's not going to get any easier.
No, really, I'm glad for it.
I don't want to walk over.
I want the Chiefs to have to fight and scratch and claw their way to winning the division.
Winning the playoffs will be easy.
Playoffs?
Yeah.
Well, look at the Texans.
I think if the Texans had a tougher division, that they would have been a little bit more
of a tougher team.
We beat them solidly, but they did put up a fight.
Yeah, if they'd had some more heart and grit, then...
Yeah, and I think it's going to be good for the Chiefs.
The Chiefs may have to go on the road a little bit more on the playoffs, but that's the way
it is.
The Chiefs do well on the road.
Yeah.
And here's an interesting thing to think about.
The NFC East, you've got Dallas Cowboys and New York Giants are pretty much nobodies,
but now you've got Jalen Hurts and Jaden Daniels in that same division fighting each other
every season.
I love that.
That's going to be so...
I'm rooting for the commanders, absolutely.
I am too.
I mean, they overachieved this year.
Now they know their needs.
So next year, they're not going to overachieve.
They're going to be a contender.
Even if they have a little slump next year, that's okay.
They could.
Yeah.
They could.
That's going to be fun, having those two teams in that division for a while.
The Texans had a really good defense.
So CJ Stroud came back to Earth, but it didn't matter because he's becoming a smart enough
quarterback.
Yeah.
Except with the media.
That whole whining about the refs thing did not do him well.
Yeah.
That's going to sting him enough.
I doubt he'll do it again.
Yeah.
He's smart enough.
He won't make that mistake again.
Yep.
So, all right.
I might have to go grab our coffee again.
Well, there the guy is.
Will you run over there and get it?
Yeah.
Let me go grab our coffee.
Okay.
Oh man.
Oh, he put a little extra.
This is strong.
It tastes great, but man.
The band, where did they come from?
You know, don't they look like the, like in that first Star Wars movie, the band in that
little spaceport in Mos Eisley?
Hang on.
I'll be damned.
A little cantina band.
They look just like him.
Look at that guy with the mustache.
Doesn't he look uncomfortable?
Is that even real?
I don't know.
He might be a mannequin.
It's weird.
Hope he can't read lip reading.
Well, they're playing well.
I mean, I do enjoy the music, but.
Yeah, they are good.
It's just that one guy with the mustache, man.
I mean, he looks like he's holding in a turd.
Man, that's not a relaxed person.
You know what I want to do?
Go over there and like flip him off and see what he does.
I think he just stands there playing.
Or walk up to him with the doll and say, show me on the doll where they hurt you.
Get one of those grab sticks and get his balls.
You know, is yours a little bit stronger?
It is.
Yeah.
Remember to tip him like we did last time.
I mean, if you tip him good, he fucking makes your coffee the best.
I think he fucking says a prayer visual over it.
Yeah.
I think the only way to make this stronger is if I just like chopped up the beans and
snorted him.
Oh yeah.
Yeah, I think I put cocaine in mine.
I don't know.
Oh, yeah.
As long as it ain't.
Oh, wait, that's probably a heart attack.
I think that guy over there probably had fentanyl in his.
Yeah.
The mustache boy.
Yeah.
He's about to slide off his seat under the table.
Oh, that guy.
Oh yeah.
Yeah.
Oh my gosh.
Yeah.
Either that or he really, really likes his company there.
I don't know.
So let's discuss next year.
Never too early.
Nope.
Well, we mentioned that the, we think that the commanders and the Eagles are going to
have a tough fight.
Yeah.
But the Lions, where did they go?
I think the Lions taking a step back.
I think they've been exposed pretty badly.
Jared, go ahead.
I was going to say Vikings probably take the division next year, but.
Well they don't have a quarterback right now.
That's true.
They didn't even sign Darnold and Darnold was exposed pretty badly.
Okay.
Jared Goff.
Jared Goff is about, that guy's got a dog here.
Yeah.
Well this is, yeah.
It's a little French cafe, so of course everyone's got a little frou-frou dogs.
Yeah, a little yap dog.
Yeah.
Hey, hey, I didn't do anything to you.
Sounds like she's right under the table.
I know.
Look at him.
He's mad at me.
Yeah.
Geez.
You're getting the evil eye.
I know.
What the hell?
Maybe some guy looked like me kicked her or something.
Oh, that's good.
Yeah.
Okay.
I guess the Packers could make a move, but.
Not with Jordan Love.
Yeah, I know.
I mean, Jordan Love has been exposed.
Sam Darnold has been exposed.
Yeah.
And Jared Goff has been exposed.
Hey, the Jets are moving on from Aaron Rodgers.
Maybe he goes back to Green Bay?
No, I don't think so.
No, he goes to the Vikings.
Oh, that's exactly what Favre did, so yeah.
Yeah.
The only thing now is a wiener pick.
Devonte Adams.
No, no, allegedly.
No, I'm just joking.
They're platonic.
And then he'll have to defraud a charity.
Of the poor, the ultra poor.
Yes.
To make it even better.
To benefit his richie rich daughter's volleyball team.
I'm surprised there's not more made out of that.
Well thankfully he's pretty much disappeared from the TV.
Yes, and he should.
There's a stink about him that nobody wants to be associated with.
That whole thing and then being with a governmental official doing it too.
I'm sorry man, that's something you don't recover from.
People that have nothing, you're ready to take out of their basket and fucking give
it to a volleyball team?
I mean that's what the government does is they rob the poor to give it to themselves.
That's what taxes are.
Yep, and the people that are screaming the strongest about being exposed are the ones
that are on the tank.
If you notice.
Yeah, people will always accuse others of doing what they're doing themselves.
Oh exactly.
Manipulation.
Yeah, it's most common when one partner in a marriage accuses the other of cheating for
no reason.
It's exactly like that.
It's usually because the accuser is the one cheating and they're just so wracked with
guilt they've got to do something.
And also they have that mentality.
It's like what do you do when you're gone you're cheating.
Because I am, so you must be.
I've always noticed that too.
The cheaters are always the one pointing the finger.
And I mean it goes back to Satan if you think it means the accuser.
Yes.
Pointing the finger.
You did it.
Yep.
Lucifer means light bringer.
Light bringer, yeah.
Satan means accuser.
Yes.
So light bringer, a lot of people say the light you see when you die is actually Satan.
Yeah.
Who knows?
No one ever came back and told us.
The interesting thing about angels is Satan was made as a really beautiful one.
He was made physically very beautiful.
Most of the angels were pretty horrible looking.
Yeah, they were non-denominational looking.
They weren't even human looking.
No.
They had 15 eyes and 9 mouths and was like, no if an angel shows up you're probably going
to get scared out of your wits.
Yeah, then they're going to have to coax you.
Look, I know all the pictures, okay?
Okay, so like alright you die and I'm coming down to get your soul, okay?
Topher?
Yes?
I know I look funny, okay?
Alright I know I look scary.
But you read things wrong.
Everyone has these angels on TV that look great.
Look I know I have 5 mouths and 30 eyes, okay?
Just throw that away alright?
I'm here to help you, okay?
I'm trying to take you up to heaven, alright?
So don't, everyone else fights me, they kick me, they bite me, they spit at me.
Don't do that Topher.
I'm trying to take you to the right place.
Well you see I'm the kind of person who realizes that absolutely everything on TV has been
modified to be something that I will buy.
Oh then no problem, let's go.
So you know, it's like the people expect the polar bears to act like they do on the Coca-Cola
commercials.
They're getting eaten.
Yeah, you've got to realize everything you see on TV has been modified to be something
they can sell.
Yeah, or if you want to get more get like Grizzly Man.
Oh yeah.
Oh yeah, oh they're so docile and look at them they love me.
Next thing, hey what happened to him?
Is that a shoe?
Is that a chewed up shoe?
We're going to have to wait until this bear cramps and see if we can get a driver's license.
Oh yep, okay.
What do you think of the NFC South?
Okay the NFC South, let's see who was in the NFC South here?
Rams.
The Rams?
Buccaneers, Panthers, no not the Buccaneers, no not the Rams.
It's Buccaneers, Panthers, Saints, Falcons.
Yeah the Rams are in the West.
Rams are in the West.
Yeah there was San Francisco and Seattle and Arizona.
In Arizona, yeah.
But NFC South, Tampa Bay is the one who won the division but not in a very convincing
manner.
Well this goes to what I was saying about a weak division.
Bowl except for that 2016 Giants team.
Other than that it does not bode well to have a weak division.
I think okay.
I'm trying to think of the last NFC team that really dominated and charged all the way to
the Super Bowl.
It's like the Eagles have been the only ones really doing it.
Yeah yeah, I mean if you think about it, okay the last four Super Bowls, San Francisco,
Kansas City, Philadelphia.
Well not the last four but the last six.
So four of them have been the same team.
And then you had what, Bengals versus Rams?
Yeah.
The Rams were just kind of a one season spike.
And then you had Tampa Bay with a first atrocity.
Okay I think that Tampa Bay, Todd Vols needs help.
He needs to find an offensive coordinator that understands Mayfield even better.
He needs a better scheme.
Defensively they're pretty good.
That team is a team that can be ascending if they do it right.
Yeah.
I could see them being 11-6 team easily but they have to get the right people in the right
areas.
And you also have to build the team to win your division.
I mean that's, I mean everybody in AFC West is building their team to beat the homes.
Atlanta, what's his name?
I forgot his name.
Pinnix?
Yeah.
Pinnix looks pretty good.
Now assuming he's good, they're going to be pretty tough.
You know so I think what it comes down to is who reloads better?
Who drafts better?
It's going to come down to who does a better job with their needs of course.
I know that's obvious but that's what that division has become.
I think the two most complete teams in that division are the Bucs and the Falcons.
Yeah and until further notice I think that's what you're going to get.
I mean are you going to pick Carolina?
Not until they show me something for a couple seasons straight.
No I know.
So I mean there's really not much in that division.
Who is the other team?
Carolina and?
New Orleans.
New Orleans is a long way off too so they don't have a quarterback because Derek Carr
is so unreliable due to injury or play.
And they've got a losing culture there now again.
Yes.
Which really sucks for them because they took them so long to grow out of that into a team
that people respected and now they're just forgotten again.
Yeah.
Sean Payton was kind of run out of there and I don't see anything getting any better.
Yeah we're really starting to see pretty clear that Sean Payton was doing everything he could
but it's like the cook who doesn't get to shop for his own ingredients.
Yeah I mean.
It's like oh this is all I got to work with man.
I'm getting the best I can but I need better stuff.
You got a GM not really more interested in drafting for the Wildcat offense.
And I think an owner who's starting to cheap out.
Yeah probably so.
The older the owners get and the closer they get to not being the main driving force behind
the team the more a lot of them tend to start cashing out.
Yeah.
They drive up prices they cheap out on players and they cheap out on my airlines and hotels
and the food they serve the players and the players just start thinking this is a suck
ass place to work.
I don't like it here.
Yeah they don't and then you don't get free agents either because the word's out.
But for a year or two the owner can rake in tens of millions that way and then if he's
getting out he's like what do I care.
Yeah yeah that's right.
And then the fans get to pick up the pieces don't they.
Jack Stedman was the reason we were so bad for so long he was a numbers guy and not a
football guy.
Let's go to the west of the NFC.
That division is really interesting because you have the Rams and the 49ers.
Okay the 49ers were really good they were a Super Bowl contending team they were in
the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
Okay Brock Purdy is a good enough guy to get you there obviously.
So McCaffrey is a big mystery and if he does come back is he going to be effective and
is he going to stay in there all year.
That's the thing I don't I think you could bring him back as a situational kind of player
and hope you get a full season out of him but you're still paying him boatloads of money.
Probably the better thing to do would be to take the cap hit and get somebody who's healthy
and can play all season.
Yeah I would agree.
Okay so you'd have to draft them.
I think they're also kind of finished with the Brock Purdy experience.
Yeah I think they're going to go away from that too.
I think San Francisco has a lot of holes I know they're a contending team but I think
a lot of their stuff is dissolved and fell apart.
Trying to think of how their defense is they have a Bosa on their defense.
Yeah they do Nick.
Yeah Joey's on the chargers.
Yeah yeah Nick Bosa very good.
They also have another pass rusher that's pretty good too.
They got a good defense I think their offensive woes or it's what the deal is.
Okay so.
Not expecting much from Arizona not expecting much from Seattle.
No not much of a fight there so it's the Rams and San Fran.
I think the Rams are more of a complete team and I think you're going to see them win the
division and I also think that you're going to see them maybe make it in the playoffs
a little bit further like they did this year.
They have a quarterback that's been there in 1-1.
They have a head coach that's been there and done that.
Let's see.
Trying to think.
Is Cooper Cupp he thinks he's going doesn't he?
The team is shopping him.
I think Cooper Cupp basically is saying I want to stay here but it's not up to me so.
Is it a money thing?
Yeah.
Okay.
So the Rams are trying to free up some money for somebody or something to be determined
later but.
Okay I think the Rams are kind of the cream of the crop there.
Yeah by default really.
Yeah San Fran can get back in it but they have to make the exact right moves.
So okay let's see let's go to the AFC now.
Okay.
Do the west first.
Yeah.
Okay.
Next season is going to be tough.
It is but I still put my money on my homes until further notice.
Yeah because we both of us see a way they can reload and repopulate their team.
And they will.
And do a good job.
They will.
Yeah.
Let's face it we're in the Super Bowl this year.
We talked about all this stuff that could have went wrong.
Well it didn't.
They made it to the Super Bowl.
You are what your record says you are yes.
They escaped by an ass hair.
We know this but they still made it.
Yeah.
So I think until further notice you go with the cream of the crop and that would be of
course the people that have been in it five out of the last six years.
Yeah.
So there you go.
Chiefs second I think I mean now the Chargers could be the wild card in this.
But I am I think that Herbert is not that good.
I'm with you there.
I think that he's I think we've seen the best days of Justin Herbert.
Yeah.
He doesn't look like he has that much care into it.
I think he's a beach guy and he doesn't really care.
He kind of reminds me of down there in Jacksonville.
Trevor Lawrence.
Jake Plummer was that way too.
Jake Plummer was infamously like that.
He had a lot of talent but could never he didn't care enough.
Yeah.
Jake Plummer just didn't want to sacrifice what you have to in order to have a great
NFL career.
He wanted to go hang out and party.
This is the life I have to live and I'm not sacrificing 10 years for you guys.
Yeah.
He made his money and left.
He got out.
It's kind of funny really.
I think Denver has leapfrogged over.
So Denver is probably leapfrogged Los Angeles.
Yeah.
So Denver is going to be on our heels the whole season.
Yeah.
Raiders I don't see making any kind of serious noise for a year at least.
Yeah.
Maybe a couple of years off.
Yeah.
Pete Carroll.
Brady and Pete Carroll are going to get it turned around.
Yes.
As long as Mark Davis stays out of the way.
Yeah.
He's got that young woman he's probably just like he's going to be like call me when something
happens other than that fuck off.
Yeah.
So I think Mark Davis and Bill Belichick both use the same babysitter for their girlfriends
like us.
I think they do too.
Yeah.
It's Wads of Cash.
Yeah.
Great babysitter.
They got to keep a lot of juice boxes on hand.
Isn't there a Bloomingdale's down the road?
Yes there is.
Here.
So yeah I think that is the pecking order right there.
You're going to have Kansas City Denver on our heels.
Los Angeles putting up a fight becoming a little bit short and the Raiders are going
to be the Raiders for a little bit longer.
They're going to be rebuilding although they claim they aren't.
Yeah.
So AFC East.
Okay.
So we got the Jets, the Dolphins, the Patriots and the Bills.
I don't see anyone bumping the Bills out.
No I don't either.
The Bills have got it all the way.
Yeah I think the Bills have that division locked up more than the Chiefs have our division.
Oh without a doubt.
Without a doubt.
New York has got to rebuild because they're moving on from Aaron Rodgers finally.
Even if they kept Aaron Rodgers there rebuilding.
New England has a new head coach and a change up in coaching staff and he's making some
decisions there that people are seriously questioning.
So that's going to be an interesting situation.
And then Miami everybody is just getting older there.
There's not really anything different about Miami yet.
We'll see what happens in free agency draft.
So far they're just getting older each year.
They didn't make it last year, they're not making it the next year.
No Tyreke is on the dissension.
Waddle has still got some left in him but he always needs that other guy like Hill so
his productivity may be down a little.
Tego Viola is not a proven winner.
I think he's giving all he's got right now.
So everything he's got to give and do you're already seeing it.
And Jalen Hurts getting the title probably kicked him right in the nuts because they're
both down there in Alabama sharing time.
The other guy made it and he didn't.
Okay.
So I'm going to say Bills, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets or Jets Patriots.
I can't decide who's going to be the bottom.
I'm going to say Patriots, Jets.
The Patriots they have what's his ass in there now.
Frable.
Mike Frable.
He's doing some questionable moves that people don't like but I think he knows something
that people don't.
Yeah.
It's not like he suddenly lost his mind once he got hired there.
No, no, no.
He did what he did in Tennessee and people didn't necessarily like crave it at first.
You know.
Tannahill.
You know nobody was for that but when he brought in Tannahill that was a good enough quarterback
to get him well into the playoffs.
Yeah.
It worked for what he needed.
Yeah.
All right.
AFC South.
Okay.
It's Texans, Atlanta.
No, no, no.
Texans, the Colts.
Colts.
Jacksonville and oh he's losing the fifth one, the fourth one.
Oh shit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Cheat, cheat, cheat, cheat, cheat.
There you go.
Let me.
Indy, Jacksonville.
We're horrible sports guys.
I mean I know this.
I really do know this.
I know it's the AFC South and the AFC North that I get mixed up.
AFC South, me too.
Because they both used to be the AFC Central together.
Yeah.
They realigned them.
Okay.
So who's the fourth team?
AFC South.
Texans, Giants.
Titans.
There we go.
I'm going to go up.
Yeah, we were.
I know.
We're horrible.
But you know, if they were still the Houston Oilers, I'd remember them.
But the Tennessee Titans, we hardly ever see their games here in Kansas City.
Yeah.
We hardly ever get talked about here.
Yeah.
So.
Okay.
That's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.
Same here.
So I'm going with Texans.
Yeah.
The Colts don't have an answer quarterback.
Richards is horrible.
Yeah.
Jacksonville doesn't have an answer to quarterback.
No, Trevor Lawrence is not.
And their team's falling apart.
I mean, it really is.
And the Titans.
I'm going to say that the Titans are going to probably move up to maybe third or second.
I can see that.
I see the Colts and Jaguars moving to whoever wins one more game than the other.
Yeah.
They're going to be fighting for last place.
Yeah.
Yep.
And you know, historically, I've always liked the Jacksonville team.
Yeah.
But whoever's running it down there is just not quite doing it right, are they?
I agree.
Yeah.
I mean, Trevor Lawrence looked like the right pick, but everybody else saw that he hasn't
been progressing.
He's still exactly the same guy he was in college.
Everybody else can see that, but the organization.
Oh, I know.
Either they don't see it or they're doubling down.
The mustache guy.
They took him off the stage.
Oh, you're right.
That's funny.
Yeah.
Okay.
I don't know.
He's probably in there squeezing out that turn he's been holding in for a day and a
half.
How about that?
I'm sorry.
He's probably a nice guy.
He probably is.
But how about the AFC North?
This is an intriguing one.
This is.
You have the Raven Steelers, Bengals, and Browns.
The Browns go ahead and put them on the last.
We know this.
Yeah.
Their team has fallen apart.
It's not falling apart.
It has fallen apart.
Now, I think the Steelers.
They're going to be at Salary Cap Hill.
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
For a long, long time.
They're going to be next to them, but a closer third than closer to the bottom.
The reason is because they still don't have that quarterback.
No, they don't.
They're going to be good, but very beatable.
If they make the playoffs, you're not going to see them around very long.
Cincinnati, despite all their problems this past season.
Probably second.
Yeah.
They've got their franchise quarterback still.
He had a good year last year.
Yeah.
He opened his mouth in some unfortunate times and said some unfortunate things.
He's trying to correct his image now.
He was very complimentary to Mahomes and some other things.
Good for him, yeah.
Look, I mean, he's a really good quarterback.
Actually, I feel kind of sorry for him because the team underperformed so bad that there's
nothing he can do.
That's what makes him so close to succeeding again.
Let's face it.
They just need a few more players here and there.
The reason he was mouthing off was frustration.
He knew they could win more and they weren't in his pissed and I get it.
There's only so much he can do, but that's the wrong thing to say in a press conference.
Yeah, he should have never said that.
Well, I'm playing well and this guy's playing well and that guy's playing well.
You should never do that.
Yeah, three guys out of 53.
Mahomes took the loss in the Super Bowl.
And rightly so.
He played like crap.
Yeah, but he didn't have to.
A lot of people played like crap.
That's true.
He could have said that offensive line.
I was on my back the whole game, but he didn't.
He said, I let you down.
So then he promised he was going to be back and I have no reason but to believe him.
So then the Ravens.
How good are the Ravens going to be?
Because the Ravens are always that team that looks so good in the regular season.
They beat the shit out of the Bills in regular season.
They come close to beating us at home.
Lamar Jackson, MVP.
Oh my God, best thing since fucking sliced cheese.
Once again.
They come close and they spend all this time and effort and they seem to have everything
it takes to win.
But Lamar Jackson and Josh Allen.
They got Derrick Henry.
But I think Jackson and Allen probably get together in the off season and think, what
the freak do we have to do?
We're doing everything we can.
What more can we do?
I don't think there's anything they can do.
There's nothing they can do.
You have a guy there that is just better than everybody else.
And one guy you can beat in the regular season routinely, but you can never beat him in the
post season.
And the other guy, you come close to beating him at home away.
You beat him one time because Allard fumbled the ball late in the fourth quarter.
So do you really count, I guess you count that as a win.
But still.
Someone is making the point that a lot of quarterbacks need that Super Bowl win or Super
Bowl appearance at least in order to solidify their Hall of Fame.
He said there's going to be a Mahomes era defined where quarterbacks who didn't make
the Super Bowl and never won the Super Bowl, they're going to get a pass on that because
Mahomes was playing.
I agree.
And they're going to make the Hall of Fame where they normally wouldn't.
It's like, hey, they were going up against Mahomes and to get that body of work when
Mahomes was in.
Dan Marino made it.
Yeah.
No, I mean, but he went against the Montanas and the Elwes and all that.
So he got a pass.
It may not be said in writing because that was the first great class of quarterbacks
of the century.
1984 quarterback class.
That was amazing.
So he got a pass is like, look, this guy, if these people weren't in his way, he would
have had a couple.
Well, so like Josh Allen, he'll be in the Hall of Fame if he keeps up like he is easily.
Yeah.
But he may never have a trophy.
And I've never agreed that you have to get the Super Bowl to be a Hall of Fame.
No.
I wish when you have a competition like Mahomes, you have to take that into consideration.
Absolutely.
Yeah.
So I think Lamar Jackson also could be heading into the Hall of Fame because the guy can get
what, a thousand yards on the ground?
Yeah.
A couple of thousand, three thousand in the air, if not more.
That's insane.
Yeah.
He can be in the running for the most touchdown scored on the ground on your team.
Yeah.
So.
Oh man, I would like to see Lamar Jackson get into the Super Bowl and see what he can
do.
Yeah.
And I feel, I feel bad for the frustration that he must be.
He looked at Jalen Hurts and said, I can do that better.
Yeah.
He's got to be like, shit.
Yeah.
And I mean, his last, last option would be to try to trade off onto a team in the NFC
so he doesn't have to go against Allen and Mahomes.
Well, if I was Allen.
Kind of like what Brady did by going to the NFC.
Yeah.
And then what he do, he faced Mahomes in the Super Bowl.
Yeah.
But I don't see Jackson trying to trade himself off the Baltimore Raiders.
I think he wants to take them along.
No, and Allen's not leaving the Bills.
Yeah.
But it's a shame.
I think the NFL needs to move Buffalo to the NFC and that way, you know, I mean, get
a, well, I mean, I can't really say that.
I mean, the Eagles beat our ass.
So I mean, I guess it did work, didn't it?
Who would take the Bills place?
Maybe the Giants?
Could be.
Yeah.
Why not?
Yeah.
Another New York team.
Yeah.
Then Miami would have a shot at getting their division and at least have one home game.
Yeah.
You know, it is what it is.
Hey, you could put Carolina Panthers in the AFC East.
I think Bryce Young is developing.
Yeah.
They're going to have to get more of a team around him.
Bryce Young, at one time, I thought he was never going to be anything.
Now I think he has a line to be a pretty good quarterback, but he's got to keep progressing.
Yeah.
Thankfully, they didn't ruin him.
Yeah.
Not so far.
Is Caleb Williams ruined?
No, I don't think not yet.
Not yet.
But if he has one more season where he doesn't take a chance, he's not ever going to.
Yeah.
So, I mean, so AFC Championship game next year.
Oh, okay.
AFC, I'm going to say Chiefs, but not necessarily home field advantage.
And I'm going to say that they're going to be playing Ravens.
Okay.
And then NFC, I'm going to go with, okay, I'm going to go with Philly as the division
winner against Washington as a wild card.
Okay.
I like that.
Oh, I hope that happens.
That would be so nice.
Next year, I'm going Chiefs at Cincinnati.
I think Cincinnati is going to bounce back.
I mean, look, they've been doing pretty good drafting and getting free agency.
True, true.
They're not sitting still.
No, they're not sitting still.
They're going to figure this out.
I think this time we go to Cincinnati, finally.
There'll be a game there.
That would probably be better for the Chiefs anyway.
It would be.
I think so.
That game is a toss up.
I'm not even going to predict it.
Yeah.
Same here.
I just, I want to see the teams first.
Late mistake.
I'm going to put that down to a late mistake.
Fumble, penalty, whatever.
Okay.
Yeah.
I think we're going to go Rams versus Philly.
Oh, yeah.
That definitely could work.
I think the Rams are going to edge them out this time.
That would be something.
It's going to be a late penalty or something.
Just like, I think the championship games coming up this year are going to be real nut
tuggers.
I mean, I think they're going to be bastards because everything is lining up to where people
are reloading and loading up to keep up with the big guys because they're tired of it being
the same old suspects in the Super Bowl and the playoffs.
That brings me to the question I wanted to ask you.
Okay.
NFL team dynasties.
Do you think the NFL league office likes them or doesn't like them?
At first they like them.
Yeah.
Now the Chiefs aren't their baby.
I think they're happy with very short term dynasties.
Yeah.
And then right now there's so much fan fatigue over the Chiefs that people just don't want
to hear anything Chiefs related.
That's the NFL signal that, okay, this has gone on too long because we don't want to
repulse any of our fans.
We want them all interested just in different things.
Yeah.
And also the Taylor Swift factor is gone.
She's booed multiple times.
Yep.
It's run its course.
It has definitely run its course.
The 12 year old girl is not watching football regularly.
Yeah.
And she's not at a game.
She's definitely not at the Super Bowl.
And I think they're starting to realize that.
That was sexy at first.
Now it's time to know.
Yeah.
I mean, she's not the average beer swilling truck driving in.
He's tired of looking at her.
He's tired of the game being catering to a 12 year old girl.
Yes.
That's what he's sick and tired of.
He doesn't hate Taylor Swift.
He hates what football has become because of Taylor Swift.
Yeah.
That's not even her fault.
Yes.
They're chasing the Taylor Swift dollars.
Yes.
And I think that that's come to an end too.
Yeah.
I think so.
Yeah.
I think short term dynasties are going to work well for the league and then they're going
to run their asses out.
Right.
And he's like, oh, here's the next big dynasty.
They love this.
Mm hmm.
Bills and Chiefs, Ravens and Chiefs.
Yeah.
Ravens and Bills.
They love that because these are games that record numbers of people turn into.
That's true.
Yeah.
And I think the Rams and Philadelphia next year, if that comes to proficient or Washington
and Philadelphia or if the Lions, if they're back in it, the Lions and Washington playing
or Philadelphia and the Rams or the Rams and the Lions, I think that they love that.
Any combination works.
Yes.
These are key rivalries.
Yeah.
These key rivalries with powerhouse teams that have rapport with each other.
Mm hmm.
And that's what's been going on.
And those you can keep going for generations.
And they have too.
I mean, you look at Denver, Kansas City.
But the Super Bowl dynasty, they've got to make sure that that never gets to the point
where it is now with people hating the Chiefs and before people hating the Patriots.
I think right now they'd like to see the Chiefs go the Patriots way.
Yeah.
Kind of, you know, disassemble.
Backburner for a few years and then come back roaring.
Oh, no, it's Patrick Mahomes again.
And he's got an all star cast.
Look who's back.
You know.
And when you change the dynasty every few years, you get to sell a new team's memorabilia
and merchandise and jerseys.
And then a few years, the new team is this one over here.
So everyone rebuys that.
It makes perfect business.
Yeah.
So I think that's the long and short of it right there.
Like it to an extent.
Pretty much everybody who wants a Chiefs jersey has already bought one.
So now they're just being bought as gifts for people who really don't want one anyway.
Yeah.
Like my cousins in Canada, I'm going to buy them a jersey.
Yeah.
So they want to get to the point where people are buying Chiefs jerseys again because they're
on their way back, not because they've been shoved down everyone's throat.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I bought them a Mistakis jersey for the Royals.
Traded.
So now I'm trying to figure out.
I'm thinking get them a Mahomes jersey because they're not going to trade it.
Yeah.
It's like I had a cream hunt jersey for number 27 and they left the team and now he's come
back and fortunately I still have the jersey.
You got the wrong number though.
Yes, the wrong number on it but I still have the hunt jersey.
You can paint a little hook on the seven.
Yeah, that's true.
People be going, oh, like it.
So yeah, I think they like it to an extent and then I think they're like anyone else
except us, tired of looking at us.
And they're going to get better as time goes on at judging when it's run its course and
have the next hot team prepped and ready for us.
Yeah, should they have welfare in the NFL where if the team's doing so good as the chiefs
they have to give someone a good player?
Would that be interesting?
That would be interesting.
The welfare rule or whatever, FSA card rule, I don't know.
Or not FSA, what do they call the food stamps?
EBT.
The EBT effect they can call it.
It's like, oh, fuck, we got to give up a good player, man.
The EBT says we got to give it to Carolina.
How about each year the bottom two teams, one in the AFC, one in the NFC, get to do
like a limited expansion draft.
That would be, I'd like that.
Each team can make 10 players available and those teams can pick up to five of us.
That's when you find out the NFL is really interested in parity.
Because if they do that, then man, that's going to do it right then.
And then give everyone a free pass on the salary cap implications, so that's not an
issue.
And let's say every team has 10 teams they can protect or 10 people they can protect
and that's it.
Yeah.
And once you lose two, then you can't lose anymore.
Oh, and this includes front office.
Oh, head coaches, offensive coordinators, cheerleaders.
Yeah, yeah, cheerleaders, that'd be a good one.
Be like, find out who that brunette is with the shorter hair and that blonde with long
legs.
Those two, get them.
And that real slutty one, she's pretty cool with all the tattoos.
Get her.
The one sitting on Jerry Jones' face?
Yes, that one.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And claiming she loves him for his mind.
He has the cutest smile.
And he's an excellent dancer.
Yeah, and how can you tell he has a smile?
His face is so wrinkled.
Let it out.
Yeah, yeah, I mean, I think next year is going to be another test and I think it's going
to be interesting and Kansas City is going to be lucky.
Well, not lucky.
Kansas City is going to be having to play their best football most of the year to be
there again.
Yeah, yeah, because we're still going to get everybody in the AFC's best game.
Yeah, yeah.
So we'll see.
All right.
I mean, yeah, I guess we can go to the sports creeps now.
So everybody.
The sports creeps.
Music creeps.
The music creeps.
There we go.
I've done that last time too, didn't I?
Yeah, hey, go fuck yourself.
Hey, we can be the music bastards next year.
Yeah, there we go, the music bastards.
The actual listening.
Go fuck yourself.
Oh, no.
Looks like the show's over, kids.
Mark has explosive diarrhea and can't afford a wireless mic.
Fear not, assholes.
We'll be back invading your ear holes soon.