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Wow, it just keeps getting worse, doesn't it? And the cool thing is we have so many complaints
over it, we're never going to stop now. That's so awesome. Yes, yep. I had an idea for like,
hey, let's do something really awesome. This is so much better. This is so much better.
Yeah, it just started as like, let's do something weird. And now it's like, so many people hate it.
We gotta keep doing it. We gotta keep doing it. Yeah. So now we've given them the game plan. If
you tell us you really love something, we're gonna knock it off. Oh, that's what we're gonna do now.
Yeah. Yeah. Alrighty, so let's talk music. All right. Do you have any odd cover songs?
Oh, I came up with a few. Okay, I've got quite a few actually. And this is, okay, you go into a band,
you go to a band and you want them to cover something that's not their thing. Yeah. It's
gonna be very odd. They're like, what? You want me to do what? Yeah. And some of those have really
worked. Yeah. Yeah. Like, you go to Mick Fleetwood and say, I want you to play in, but this isn't
cover song, but this is kind of like what I'm saying. Disturbed had a really good cover of
The Sound of Silence. Yes, they did. That is an amazing cover. Was that a Five Finger Death?
That was Disturbed. Oh, was it? I watched it recently. Oh, okay. Okay. Well, Five Finger
Death Punch might have one too. But then I think Jeff Tate from Queensryche, he did a cover of
Scarborough Fair that was really good. Yeah. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah, this is like that,
but this is also silly too. Yeah. It's ones that you would like to see and some that would never
work. Yeah. So like my one that I presented to you was Boston cover and Ugly Kid Joe's,
Everything About You. Totally wrong attitude for this. Oh my God. Yeah. What's his name? The singer,
Dead Guy. Brad Dill. Yeah. Imagine him trying to sing that. He wouldn't get it. He'd be like,
what? Now I'm trying to be sarcastic. Is that what it is? I don't understand, you know? He wouldn't
be able to do it. He'd be like, I quit. Bonus points if you know the name of the singer for
Ugly Kid Joe. I used to. Yeah. And bonus points if you know how they got their name.
I think I know that one. Okay. I can't think of the singer's name. What is it?
Whitfield Crane. That's it. Yeah. Yeah. My ex was reading a biography of some Hollywood starlet
and that's who her ex was. Whitfield Crane. And let's see, how they got their name is. Now he
works at Pizza Hut. Probably. I thought he had a really awesome voice but apparently he's a real
pain in the ass to be around. I think that was one of the things. Yeah. He's like a Jack Russell
Terrier in a human body. Yes. And I think how they got their name was something about they were at
a show and somebody already had their name. No, no, no. They were Pretty Boy Floyd and they didn't
have a name. Okay. And they're like, well, we're not pretty like these guys. Their name's Pretty
Boy Floyd. Hey, how about we're just Ugly Kid Joe? That's right. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. And
that's how their name originated. That's awesome. You were close. Yeah. All right. Another one that
I got unless you want to go back and forth. Let's go back and forth because I'll run out faster than
you. Okay. Okay. My first one was I want to hear Marilyn Manson doing a cover of The Monkeys,
I'm a Believer. As crazy as that sounds, I think that would work. It might. I think I'm a Believer
was written by Neil Diamond. I believe so. I think you're right. It's got a Neil Diamond kind of sound
for it but just the title alone would be funny as hell. Yeah. I like that one. I don't even know
who's in the band anymore. I think everybody pretty much quit except for Marilyn Manson. I saw a photo
of him. I don't know how recent it was but he was like a side profile shot of his face and he's
chunky. That's right. He got really chunky. He used, I mean that used to be his thing was he's
super skinny and he'd show off how skinny he was. He wore that alien-like suit. Yeah. Yeah. But
he's not missing as many meals anymore. No, no, no. He got into the Girl Scout cookies or something.
So he can't be the way he was but you know he gets to do his thing. Yeah. He's not breaking any laws.
And he's probably not even doing any tours or nothing. Probably not. I think his time is kind
of over. I also think that he writes music for other people too though. Yeah. But I don't see
him ever getting a reality show. No. He's just too nasty. Yeah. Next one I got is Steely Dan
covering Still of the Night by Whitesnake. Oh that would be amazing. Which leads to John Sykes who
just passed away. Oh yeah. Oh he has such a good guitar. It's one of my favorites. Wow. Steely Dan
would work in some sort of jazz or funk into it. Yeah. Still of the Night. Oh god that would just
be miserable. It would be like a train wreck that you had to watch. You couldn't turn away. You go
wait a minute. Wait a minute. I'd rather hear Whitesnake doing like Steely Dan. Steely Dan. I
would too. Peg or Deacon Blues. Deacon Blues. Deacon Blues would be a good one. I would love your Deacon Blues.
Deacon Blues. There we go. All right my second one is Amy Winehouse and I want her to do a cover of
Joe Walsh's Life's Been Good. Oh the irony. Oh the irony. It's been long enough we can laugh at Amy
right now. I can see her. I go to hotels, chirp the walls, I have my accountant's paper and all.
There we go. Yeah. I can't complain but sometimes I still do. Even though I'm in the ground.
Ozzy covering Man on the Silver Mountain by Rainbow. Dio his counterpart I guess.
Sometimes friends, sometimes you know not. Yeah competitor. Friendly competitors. Yeah kind of.
Sometimes. Ozzy doing Man on the Silver Mountain. Yeah I kind of don't see it. Me neither. Yeah.
Me neither. Yeah. All right my next one up Slayer and the song they have to do is I Feel Pretty.
I feel pretty. I feel so pretty. I can't even remember what musical that's from. Is it My Fair Lady?
I think it is. I think it's from My Fair Lady. It's just a stupid little. First off, Kerry King would walk off the stage.
I feel pretty witty and gay. He would be shitting out of somebody on his way out.
He would smash his entire against his fucking marshal and the first person he saw he would hit in the fucking face.
Here's an interesting little fact about musicals that it's like it's almost like a glitch in the Matrix.
Back in the late 60s early 70s there was a serial killer that was terrorizing San Francisco called the Zodiac.
I remember. He wrote taunting letters to the police and the press and in one of them he was quoting lines from a song from a musical called HMS Pinafore.
I'm not going to sing it because it's stupid and ugly but it's one that's often often used as an example of bad musical that people remember.
He also quoted from the musical called Macado and quoted a certain passage from that musical.
Now fast forward to about 1998 30 years later on the show Frasier. Frasier and his brother Niles are doing a scene where they're playing in front of a piano.
They do both of those passages. The exact ones that were in the Zodiac's letters. Freaky.
Somebody must have done that on purpose. There's no way that could be a coincidence. Both of those passages in the same show and the exact passages that the Zodiac killer quoted in his letters to the police.
The taunting letters. Wow. That would be. Wow. Isn't that freaky as hell? That is freaky as hell and someone did do that. There's no way that could have been a coincidence. Wow.
I immediately caught it because I remember reading those parts. When they learned that about the Zodiac they learned that he's a film buff and he's watching all these old musicals.
Frasier the character is supposed to be in the musicals but picking those exact two. Creepy. I agree. They hadn't done that.
When that rerun comes on it's like I don't think I want to watch this. That wasn't coincidence. No. Anyways, it's your turn or my turn? It's your turn.
Led Zeppelin covering Poison's Talk Dirty to Me. Wow. Really out of their wheelhouse. Oh my God. Zeppelin didn't do Funtime Happy Party Rock. No. No way did not.
That's awesome. Over the hills and far away. Dire Maker. Trampled Underfoot. Cashmere. Talk Dirty to Me. No I don't think so. Cashmere.
Oh coincidentally I have Cashmere as the best drum beat ever in a rock song. Oh I love that. It's that thump thump on the kick drum. That just makes it. It's like an echo.
Yeah he could have done so much more but no. He was like this is it. Fucking perfect. Yeah. I learned that beat because I heard it and I was like oh I gotta learn that. Yeah.
In fact I used that beat last Sunday down at the Jam and Knucklehead. Oh did you? Somebody did a song and I used that exact beat and I was wondering if anyone would notice. This is the Cashmere beat.
I'll bet you somebody did. I hope one of the other drummers might notice. That was just a little. That's awesome. Little in joke for other drummers. Yes.
Alright my next one Adele. And I want to hear her do Pantera's Mouth for War. And I want to hear her sell it. Make them believe it. Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh.
I hope there's some Pantera fans out there who are going yeah. Yeah man. Yeah yeah. No Pantera fans are going who's Adele. Yeah that's probably more like it.
That's fucking awesome. I had fun with that one. I'm going to count that one up with Sex Pistols covering 2 out of 3 ain't bad. Wow. That is so good. That's fucked up too.
That is awesome. Wow. I'm trying to picture it in my mind. I could not imagine. My mind is kind of breaking. Johnny Rotten just does not do that. He does not. He's incapable I think.
It would be like going to the producer. I don't understand what I'm supposed to be feeling here. Yeah I don't get it at all. But then trying to explain it.
You don't know how you care for a woman but what? You don't know how you care for her but wait what? I don't understand. Forget it. I'm going to get someone else to do this.
Alright here's my next one. Justin Timberlake and he's doing a cover of Christian Woman by Typo Negative. That's one of my favorite songs by Typo Negative. That's a great song by the way.
Can Justin Timberlake reach down that low and sing those notes or are we going to have to transpose it for him? You know something tells me he could. He probably could. I think he could. I don't think he'd want to. No I don't think he'd want to. But I think he could.
I would love to hear it. Typo Negative. They're a band that I always had that should have been much bigger. I was rooting for them. I saw them as one of the opening acts at some show out in Sandstone.
Motley Crue they opened for Motley Crue. That must have been it. Yeah it was the John Karabi tour. Yeah that was it. A friend of mine reminds me of this. The guitarist, I forgot his name now dammit. The guitarist from Typo Negative.
After they got off stage he went over there and he sat. There was hardly anybody there. And he sat down on a row where there was nobody. And everybody kept saying it was John Karabi. Oh yeah that's right. And it wasn't John Karabi.
And anyhow people were like hey. And he was signed to tickets. And the tour book says John Karabi. Good for him. I got up there and I go hey man cool hey. And I was drunk. And then after I sat I'm like wait a minute that's not him.
I go hey you gotta be up on stage here soon. And he gave me this weird look. I'm like wait a minute that's not him. I didn't say that. And he signed my ticket John Karabi. I look at him again and I smile and he's just kind of like.
I remember watching their show and thinking oh too bad it's still daylight. They're designed for night shows. I know. Absolutely designed for dark and night shows.
And Peter Steele had this thing about him. This huge guy. How ironic he died so early too. Because all their songs are about like death.
They're kind of like necromantics. Paul Bearer did a really good cover of Love You to Death. Which is an excellent cover. I like the original but Paul Bearer's version is a little more polished.
Yeah. And did you know that Peter Steele is a brother of Greg Steele in Faster Pussycat. Or was in Faster Pussycat. Oh wow didn't know that. Cool.
Okay. I have Bad Company covering No Sleep Till Brooklyn by the Beastie Boys. Imagine Paul Rodgers. No Sleep Till Brooklyn. I can't even do it.
There will be another one where the band is like I just don't get this song. I don't understand it. Yeah. They'll be looking at each other. What is this?
I just can't get my brain started on how that would sound. I don't get what I'm supposed to do here. You want me to what? Oh come back.
Alright my next one up. Now you could give this to any current pop or R&B star. Okay. So what would be I don't know any current ones because I don't pay attention to.
But the song we're going to give them is Roundabout by Yes. A song with about 900 different parts. No way. Bunch of words. Odd timing.
What about Mervin Gay doing it or something? Oh yeah. Katy Perry. Katy Perry. Oh yeah. Wow. Yeah that would be. That would be a train wreck times two.
I'm sure one would be sitting there going what? I like that one a lot. How about Faster Pussycat covering Steve Winwood's Ark of a Diver. Oh yeah. Taming Down.
Ark of a Holy Diver. Yeah there we go. Kind of doing along those lines. Yeah. Something. Wow that would be amazing. Yeah.
A lot of Stevie Winwood songs earlier in his career had such a different style and then later in his career he was just doing the straight 2444 pop songs.
It's like he wanted to maybe hit it a little bit bigger on radio playing. Yeah. So he just started the stuff that he used to really be into. He just kind of just went straight forward rock.
He went on album rock is what I call it. Yeah. Yeah. And I've known a lot of artists to do that is here's the music they like and they like making and enjoy making and it's not popular.
So they put out one or two really commercially successful albums to make a bunch of money and then they can go back to doing the stuff they really like and don't care whether it sells or not. Yeah.
So I can understand that. Richie Blackmore did that. He got tired of doing the stuff like the Dio and the compositions and all that and he just wanted to write fucking crotch rock.
Yeah. That was his attempt at it with Graham Bond and then Joe Lynn Turner. Yeah. But they eventually went back to Purple Anyhouse. It didn't matter. Billy Joel decided he was tired of writing pop songs and he wanted to write music like you would hear in a symphony hall.
So he did that for a while and then a couple of expensive breakups later he's like yeah I think I'm going to write pop songs again. I think I'm going to write pop songs again.
And then they go back on tour. So when he needed the money suddenly he wasn't beneath them anymore. Yeah. Suddenly he's like I didn't progress that much.
All right. Here's my next one. Or is it my turn. Yeah. Okay.
Michael Buble and the song he gets to sing is Ace of Spades by Motorhead.
I would love to hear Michael Buble belting out some Lemmy. I think he'd try it one time and then walk out. Yeah. He's like I reckon my voice for this man.
Yeah. Yeah. He would destroy his voice doing that. Yeah. Absolutely.
My next one would be Lane Stanley of course Alice in Chains covering That's Life by Frank Sinatra.
Wow. Oh yeah.
I could hear he didn't have that attitude towards life at all. No he didn't. As a matter of fact he doesn't have life anymore.
He was very disappointed when heroin and crack wasn't working for him anymore. Yeah I know. He's like shit I'd better do more.
God imagine being wrong answer. Imagine him being addicted to both of those simultaneously. Yeah. And I do believe that's how he died.
Didn't he like just take too much. Heroin overdose and nobody found him for a couple of weeks I think. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right.
Yeah it was very bad to see. But they kind of all knew he was probably dead because he just didn't.
I think Jerry Cantrell had visited him shortly before that. He knew it was coming up on the end though when he visited him. Yeah.
He goes yeah that's about it. He tried one more time to say you know come with me let's go somewhere and get you cleaned up get you straightened up.
And Lane was like no man this is what I want. This right here is all I want. I want this until I die.
So he's like all right. And I think it was one of them it was one of their birthdays. Is it Jerry's birthday or Lane's birthday. I think it was Jerry's birthday.
Yeah. And maybe it was Lane's. It might have been Lane's. I think it was Lane's birthday. Lane basically kicked him out angrily because he wouldn't get off it.
Jerry's like don't let this be the way that we end it with you angry at me. And it is. And it was. Yeah. Yeah. What a waste of life.
All right. Last one I get is the soundtrack for the rock opera Jesus Christ Superstar. You know who gets to do that.
Ian Gillen. No I'm joking. He did do it. King Diamond. King Diamond.
You talk about satanic. You multiply Nicky Six times Marilyn Manson times Jimmy Page and you're coming close to King Diamond.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And also he got he got. He got sued by Gene Simmons. I think so. Because of the makeup. Yeah. So it's too close to his and he lost and he had to change his makeup somewhere.
Yeah. He's he's Danish. And you know he was one of the pioneers I guess of the satanic metal scene.
Well with Merciful Fate. Yeah. They said like their mission statement was homosexuality and satanicism.
Okay. Satanism or whatever. Yeah. But I remember King Diamond he would either paint or tattoo an upside down crucifix on his forehead. Yes.
And the weird thing about that is that's a symbol for Satanists and for Catholics. Yes. Because that's the cross of Peter. Peter. Peter insisted on being crucified upside down because he felt he wasn't worthy to be crucified the same way as Jesus.
Yes. So it's an odd symbol that can go for either the really dark side or the really light side. I think where he really got it was the 666 he put on his forehead. Yeah. That's how you figured out it was the other type of upside down cross.
Yeah. And anyhow it was all a ruse though. He wasn't satanic or homosexual. He just playing a part. And what he was doing was he was going what every parent would fucking hate their kid watching or listening to.
Which is pretty much what Alice Cooper did in the 60s. Yes. You know what does uptight white suburban America fear and hate the most. That's what we'll be. Yes. And the kids will love it and their parents will hate it and that makes the kids love it even more.
And it's always worked. It always has. It's just like PMRC, Aerosmith thanking them for putting the label on there. It's quite when you put that brand label on there you made us sell another million albums. Thank you.
Yeah. It's like putting an R rating on a movie instead of PG-13. You literally get by yourself another 10, 15 million in sales. Oh yeah. And then when you watch someone like Frank Zappa or even Blackie Lawless or Dee Snyder's school, the Washington wives is what they call themselves.
Just destroy them. And they didn't even understand it. It's like a dog trying to understand you say give them mathematical equation to a dog. Yeah. They're sitting there with their heads tilted. What are they saying? Everyone else is going oh my God. They just destroyed you.
And you know what was also really devastating is when John Denver came in to testify. Yes. He was one of the best. All the Washington wives expected John Denver to be on their side and he wasn't. I know he was. He was so eloquent and gentle and sincere about why any kind of censorship is dead wrong.
And it just it destroyed them. It's like they were counting on John Denver to be like their golden poster boy. Yeah. They thought he's going to come and go this stuff's garbage. No he's an artist and he saw it. He's like no no no no.
But John Denver was one of the most convincing ones because he had nothing. Nothing in it. Yeah. You know his stuff is safe. His stuff was good. Yeah. Yeah. No dog in the hunt. Yeah. But he knew exactly what he was talking about and what's bullshit.
So okay anyhow my next one. I'm out so it's up to you now. Okay. Henry Rollins covering Rime and the Ancient Mariner by Iron Maiden. You know I was trying to come up with some for Henry Rollins and I didn't I didn't come up with any but I had to do one of the intricate long songs.
That's that song's like nine minutes long. Yeah. And there's so many different parts to it. It's almost like a yes song. Yeah. There's like all these parts put together that makes one main song. Just because the first part of the song was one way does not mean they're going to come back to it ever. Yeah.
And so I can see Henry Rollins being like fuck. Yeah. Somebody give me a damn roadmap. He's not even doing music anymore. No just spoken language. Yeah. He's so good at it. Why would he spoken word. I should say. Yeah.
All right. Next one Creed cover and Renegades of Funk the range cover not the other one.
That would be fun. Yeah. Oh God. Here's Zach Dillerosha at the end of it going. I forgot he just starts spitting out all those words. I could not see Scott's dad doing that. No. He kind of mumbles anyway.
Suck a group. I could not see any of that. No. No. How about Jimmy Buffett covering Chuck Berry's Johnny B Good. Oh he could never muster the energy for now. He'd be like what.
Slow it down guys. Come on man. What are you guys thinking. I don't know. He's like Pink Floyd's drummer. He never drummed fast in his entire life. He couldn't do it. He'd be like. He just he loved fast cars but when he sat behind the kid he was Mr. Mellow. Yeah.
Yeah. Yeah. Mick Fleetwood. Oh yeah. He was just like he was himself and that was Mellow. It was kind of just the basic. He did a lot of basic blues beats because he was in the blues. You know John Mayall's Blues Breakers but he also mixed in quite a few African and Celtic rhythms. Yeah he did.
Yeah. The Celtic ones because you know Wales Scotland is over there. Yeah. The northern part of the island and then African rhythms. You know they were kind of more at the forefront of trying to get more African culture and African music into mainstream American. Yeah but they had to eventually kind of give up on that too because they.
Well especially with Lindsay Buckingham. Yeah. His writing did not lend to that type of you know. Yeah. But I still respected it. And then there there was another singer that jumped on that bandwagon big time and rode it to enormous success and that was Paul Simon. Oh gosh. With his album Graceland.
He basically went over and hijacked the cultural and ethnic music of a number of African peoples and basically let them write the songs for him. And then he took all the money. He took all the fucking money. Yeah. So he used them for their influence because he knew that's what the record buying public wanted. And the bad thing is the songs are great. Yeah they're great.
It's because Paul Simon didn't write most of it. Yeah that's why. But he sure got the money didn't he. Yeah. Isn't that funny. England abolished slavery long before the U.S. did. But then Paul Simon goes over. Yeah. Well England they may have abolished slavery way before us but they did not abolish social. Oh the classism. Classism. Yeah. It never went away. It's still there now. Yeah.
So let's say you were free but you're still a peon or anything. And you never have the ability to ever make it up to the upper echelon because you were born a peon. Yeah. Yeah it's just yeah a very weird society. There's a class system in place in India and Japan as well. Yeah that's true. India is really bad about it.
Japan they're like there's no emotion. They're just like this is the way it is. Yeah. And they they don't think anything of it. They're also. We've always done it this way. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's it. Okay. So the next one I have is air supply doing. Guns and Roses Welcome to the Jungle. Oh wow. Oh man. How would that work?
Yeah. The kings of safe for work radio which was air supply. They're the ones that you used to hear in an O'Riley's auto part or something. You come in there and get a new starter. No matter how sensitive and picky your customers or employees were air supply was never going to offend them. So it was super safe to play at. Yeah.
You know is here. There's another one. You go in there and go. That was air supply. 10 songs an hour. This is a hug.
Oh air supply. They sold a lot. I mean they had concerts. Excuse me big concerts and they sold out a lot because they had a big audience. Yeah they did. I really don't know if a soft and gentle band like that would have much of a market now. No not at all. People aren't as naive. And they aren't like they weren't a touring group either. Like I said you know you go into an O'Riley's and it would be on like the type of radio. Yeah true.
They played more often on music systems at places of business than they did on the radio. Music systems more than anything. But if you did hear it was like hey this is Johnny Cool. We're getting ready to enter a 12 song rock 12 song smooth rock. Yeah. You know they play them along with real Christopher Cross. Yes. Yeah. Michael McDonald KUDL. Yeah. And then if they wanted to get real rough they throw in Chuck E's in love.
Stay tuned. This is Johnny Smooth. We're getting ready to get crazy with some Chuck E's in love.
Don't touch that dial. People are like what the fuck is a dial man.
Hear this music. Yeah even the expression tune in. You don't have to tune anything anymore. Oh I know that. You just press a frickin button. I'm not tuning in anything. Yeah. Alright the next one. The Stones doing Dream Theater Pull Me Under. Oh. Would that even be possible?
They wouldn't be able to handle the odd time changes. No there's no way. I mean imagine Mick Jagger couldn't even. He'd be like. I'm trying to picture Charlie Watts playing my port noise parts. You'd need about five Charlie Watts. Yeah there's no way. Charlie Watts.
He was an awesome jazz drummer. Yeah but he was from that era where jazz drummers were being used as rock drummers because they didn't play so loud or so hard. It was easier to record them. Yep. And then when they got better recording equipment they shoved the jazz drummers back into jazz and said give us the rock drummers again.
Yeah. Alright. How about ZZ Top doing Megadeth Wake Up Dead. Oh they could almost pull that off. I thought about that afterwards. I thought I would love to hear it because they did have a harder edge to it. Yeah. And I could see the singer. Billy Gibbons. Billy. No that's a guitarist wasn't it. Oh.
Dusty Hill. No Dusty. Billy Gibbons is a guitarist. He was a singer. Dusty Hill was a bass player who sang occasionally. Dusty Hill. Yeah there's another. Frank Beard was the drummer. Yeah. But yeah Gibbons is a guitar player who sings most of them. He does sing most of them. Yeah the bassist sang some of them but not all of them. That's right they're a three piece. Yeah. Yeah I. Yeah it would work. They'd have to fake all the keyboard parts.
They'd have to slow it way down. Yeah. Yeah. Crazy. How about Beyonce doing Led Zeppelin Trampled Underfoot. Oh. Wow that would have a totally different feel wouldn't it. Gosh. I think it could be done but they'd have to pick up the right backup band. Yeah. Yeah I don't. Man. Man. I don't think it would work very well.
How about George Thurgood doing Judas Priest the Reaper. Oh. Wow. Yeah I don't think he'd understand how to do that style of music. No. Yeah. Nope. No. No I don't see it. How about Frida. I know there's something going on. From the 80s. Yeah. I know there's something going on. Oh that's right yeah.
Yeah. Frida. How about if she goes Two Minutes to Midnight. From Iron Maiden. Yeah that one she did she had Phil Collins working with her on that song. Yes. Drums and some vocals but. It's a good song actually. It's a really good radio hit and it should have been. It didn't really launch her career because people liked the Phil Collins part. Yeah. Yeah. They didn't pay attention to her so much. Was it Two Minutes to Midnight. Yeah. Two Minutes to Midnight. Damn.
Think of how fast that starts off too. Yeah really. Frida just be like. It's probably right off the stage. How about the Beatles trying to do Painkiller. Oh God. Okay Ringo do that drum intro. Oh God. This is. I could hear. I could hear John Lennon trying that though. Yeah I think John Lennon would be all over it. I think he would too. He'd be like why not. Let's do that. George would just have her middle finger. Yeah. I think he would too.
George would just have her middle break down. Yeah George would be like I'm supposed to play that. Wait a minute. No. And Paul was like I can't make money off this. Yeah. I just called my shaman and he said no way. No.
Plus the fact that Ringo was a left handed drummer playing on a right handed kit because it looked better on screen. I forgot about that. Yeah. That's why his style was so funky is because he's lefty. But they made him play right handed because it was more fan friendly. Yeah.
How about Ronnie James Dio doing purple haze by Jimi Hendrix. Oh yeah. He refused to do it. Yeah. I'm not playing it. That's not talented enough. Get the fuck out of here. He'd throw the mic. Fuck you.
Was that Miss Golfenstein I heard? Could be. Sound like her. I wonder if she's still pissed off at that wall. Probably so. I don't know what that wall did to her but it deserves it. Yeah. That wall has been kind of lippy lately. It has. It always has to get the last word. It does. It's giving us a leer right now.
Fuck you wall. Yeah. Hey wall your mortar is sloppy. You need some tuck pointing. I think that's what they call it. A dog peed on you. A dog peed on you. Yeah tuck pointing. Yeah that's where they clean it up. You need some tuck pointing. I want to make sure I was right on that. I think.
It's an awesome term. It is. You tuck pointer. Hey. Hey. It's better being a tuck job. I'd rather be a tuck pointer. No. No. Too late. Too late. You gotta be willing to tuck jobs. Yeah. Can't do it now. You're already a tuck job.
Alright next one. How about Allison Chains doing just a jiggle-o. Imagine her harmony. That would be surreal. Oh god those harmonies. Just a jiggle-o. I can't do it again. That would be so cool. Wouldn't it be great if we could make this happen.
How about Metallica doing Bye Bye Miss American Pie. Bye Bye Miss American Pie. Only four times faster. Yeah they do it in the Master of Puppets or Ride the Lightning. Yes. When they're like real real fast.
Just think about Metallica never really went back to that thrash metal. No. They did it all the way to injustice. Then they had the one slow song one and then they started going mainstream with the black album and then they never stopped. They just started going more and more mainstream.
And now a lot of their songs are just regular rock. Hard rock now if you look at it. I would even really consider metal. Or Megadeth has remained metal. I've always liked Megadeth better myself. I always thought that they were better for what they're supposed to be.
They're more true to their genre and their form. And also I love Dave Mustaine. He's a big Alice Cooper fan. They're great friends. He covered a lot of Alice Cooper's stuff. Yeah he's got a cover of No More Mr. Nice Guy that's pretty good.
Yeah and in concert he does like three Alice Cooper songs. Oh cool. Yeah he's a huge Alice fan. I think when Megadeth was ready to go out on their first tour it was with Alice. Yeah. That's when I saw him. Yeah and they were very good too. And Alice wasn't afraid of him. Yeah.
He was like yeah maybe they're going to like you. They're going to like me. It's fine. It's a perfect marriage. Yeah. And I think one of the reasons is I think I kept thinking maybe that was Metallica. I don't think so. I think it's Megadeth. Dave Mustaine called it a rock line.
And he asked for a good rock name for a band and Alice Cooper said Megadeth. I think because someone else said they thought it was Metallica. I think it was Megadeth. Yeah and that was a former name of Pink Floyd was Megadeth. It was yeah.
Spelled differently. Uh huh and Alice Cooper was big into Pink Floyd too at the time. So that would make sense. When Pink Floyd had their first American tour they came over and stayed in Alice Cooper's house. Yes. That's where the Alice Cooper band was staying.
And that's where he got the name Megadeth from. It was probably like Megadeth. Yeah. Funny. How about Drake? Oh Canadian rapper. He's doing Soundgarden, Day I Tried to Live. Oh total fail.
That would be a mess. That would be a complete mess. You know anybody singing Chris Cornell's music is kind of a mess anyway but Drake. The only guy I could see singing Chris Cornell and sound good at it would probably be Ronnie James Dio but he's dead too. Yeah or the guy from Lincoln Park.
Oh the guy from Lincoln Park could have done it. Yeah. Just because he didn't sound like it in his type of music that he did. You hear him singing other stuff. He was really really good. Yeah listen to him in the song Numb. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And also he was a huge Chris Cornell fan. Absolutely.
All right. Next one Little River Band. We're doing Pantera this love. They could do the slow parts really well. The hard parts they'd have to form that out to somebody else. However I could see Little River Band doing the slow parts of cemetery gates really easy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. They were gentle, smooth, mellow but with enough musical ability that they were interesting.
They were interesting. Yeah they were boring. Yeah. Beautiful harmonies. I really like Little River Band. Their harmonies were something. Yeah. They were great for radio too. Yeah. Yeah. I saw them out at an outdoor concert at Royal Stadium. It was Royal Stadium. It was Royal Stadium at the time. Yeah. Whoever's going to email me about that fuck you.
That was the concert where it rained so hard. It was raining so hard that when the headliner REO Speedwagon came on they started the show with Riding the Storm Out. The only time they ever done that was Kansas City because it was raining so hard.
Because that would have been one of their later encore ones I'm sure. Oh yeah they say that for the encore. Yeah. Little River Band was really good. I played some of their stuff in cover bands and it can be kind of challenging because they weren't slouches when it came to writing music. But I could not see them doing this love and doing it justice. I'm sorry.
Especially where I'm in Salmo. Bill in Salmo is just screaming. Yeah. I don't think. What the fuck is the singer's name? For Little River Band? I can't remember. I can't remember either. I don't see him doing that.
And imagine a guitar player listening to the tone of Dimebag Darrell and saying how do you even do that? How do you even play that? Dimebag Darrell will never get enough credit for his tone. I liked his tone way better than Randy Rhoades to be honest.
I agree. He had a better tone. Now as far as talent goes I don't know that's up in the air. Dimebag did do a lot of complicated stuff. He was a really good guitarist. But his tone was insanely good. Yeah it really was. I think they were using Randall amps for a big chunk of time.
Some of that stuff that he did was probably faster than Randy Rhoades ever thought of doing. True. He didn't do the finger tapping either. He was just really into the fast notes. Fast picking. Yeah. John Petrucci for Dream Theater doesn't do a lot of finger tapping. He just uses the pick.
Yeah he uses the pick. Yeah. So Dimebag will never get the credit he deserves. Yeah I don't think so. Definitely not now. But I'll tell you what. You know who Zach Wilde thinks is the best guitarist ever? Exactly. Dimebag. Yep Dimebag.
He plays him in Pantera. And that's why he did it is he wasn't doing it to just do it. He's doing it because he admired and loved the guy so much. He was a great friend of him but he admired his guitar playing that much. Yeah.
Alright and then finally Tony Bennett. I remember him. Yeah. Yeah. How about if he does Rattlesnake Shake by Mountain Crew. And with that I'm going to do this. You know I think Tom Jones would probably do Rattlesnake Shake pretty well because that guy was a horny dog. Yes he was.
Or she goes down maybe that one. Oh yeah. Yeah. That was on Dr. Philbin too wasn't it. Yeah. Yeah. I can hear the zipper in the.
How about Frank Sinatra doing Welcome to the Num.
I don't want anybody else to be a motherfucking disease.
Fucking awesome. That would be cool. We'll have to revisit that. We'll talk some more. Yes I love that one.
The one my favorite one out of mine though was Boston covering Ugly Kid Joe's Everything About You. That was pretty good. How in the world would that work? No. No no no no. All the harmonies.
Alright. Well I learned that Richie Blackmore has been successfully keeping a couple of secrets for many many years. Really. But he's finally able to tell. It's no big deal really. Sex change? Not quite.
Richie Blackmore when it started out. I wanted to cast a spell on me. Yeah. He loved the Vox AC30 amplifier for his guitar. But Marshall wanted to sign him up as an artist endorser.
Was he an endorser for Marshall? I don't even remember. Yeah. There was a famous video of him having a meltdown on stage and literally destroying his guitar. Yeah yeah. That's when he put his guitar stock through CBS's camera. Yeah. He hit the camera too.
But anyway Marshall was trying to get him as a user and they kept trying to replicate his tone and they just couldn't do it. And they worked and worked and worked and finally what they did is they took a Marshall combo amp and they pulled the whole amplifier part out and slid in the amplifier part from a Vox AC30. Really?
So it still said Marshall on the cabinet and it was a Marshall speaker but the amp itself was a Vox AC30 hiding inside. Oh my gosh. And they went out and toured with that and everyone said wow Marshall sound. It was a Vox AC30 the whole time.
And Marshall said don't tell anyone because then we'll never sell it. So now he told it. So now he's finally able to tell. Went out with the Chinese owned Marshall and he doesn't give a damn.
I'll tell you what you want somebody honest that's Richie Blackmore. Yeah. You ask him if you ask him his opinion you better be ready for it. Nothing too faced about it.
And then the other secret he kept was he wanted louder and louder amps. And Marshall's loudest amp was what they called the Marshall Major and it was 200 watts. They had four big ass power tubes the KT88. I think I've got a couple of those in my Marshall.
But they took this Marshall Major and it wasn't quite loud enough for Richie so they built another power stage on added two more power tubes and got it up to 280 watts. And that is the loudest amp that Marshall's ever made.
Wow. And he went off on tour with that and they said OK this one too. Don't tell anyone because it was such a pain in the ass to make it. We don't want to make one for anyone else. So as far as anyone else concerned it was just a regular Marshall Major because I do not.
I don't see Richie Blackmore doing that. I see him going oh fuck this whole thing. Don't you really see him doing that. Yeah. Yeah. Surprising. He must have really had a good relationship with Jim Marshall.
He had to because he is a very notoriously impatient guy. Yeah. You know if the song wasn't going good he'd be the one to storm out. This bullshit we're wasting our time. Yeah really. But I got a story about Richie Blackmore when you're done with that.
Yeah that was it. OK. This is a Glenn Hughes book. Glenn Hughes book is so underrated. It came out quite a few years ago. But I think if you get a chance to visit if you ever want to borrow it let me know. Yeah it's excellent. It's a hardback book. That's the only way I could get it. I don't think they made it in soft back for whatever reason.
Or paperback or whatever. Yeah the writer and the publisher barely makes anything on the paperback. Then that's probably why they did it. So Glenn Hughes he was popular but he was more of a niche popular. A lot of people don't know. They think he's the dead singer of the YMCA. Village people. Village people. Yeah his name was Glenn Hughes. Yeah. But anyhow he said that Richie Blackmore used to like
to fuck around with the occult in school with people. Yeah. So he said the first night they went to this castle to record and record in the dungeon. A lot of bands did this though. OK people was like oh there's a satanic. No it would get a feel. And a good reverb too. That stone wall reverb is awesome. Yeah and also the feel. It makes you write songs of that nature. Yeah that's a big put your mind in the right space. Led Zeppelin did it a lot. All of them did this a lot.
A lot of bands did that. Yeah. So it was a known practice. And he said that Richie Blackmore had a recording underneath him of fucking ghost sounds and shit like this. He said all night he's hearing all these fucking things. He's scared to death in this mansion. In this fucking dungeon. He said he couldn't move. So next night they all decide to have a seance. Hey how you doing?
They decide to have a seance. So the producer was a farmer and he had a bunch of cows. So they're like asking these spirits to come talk to them and they start hearing a cow. One of his cows died the week before and he really loved this cow. Yeah. He was like oh man you know Betsy or whatever. He was like fuck you know. And he was like really sad about it.
And Blackmore had nothing to do with this. Hughes didn't and they're sure the farmer didn't. Yeah. Because all of a sudden when they're doing the seance they hear moo. They hear these cow noises and Blackmore ran out of the room. He said he was scared to death. Wow from a cow noise. Yeah from a cow noise.
Funny. Yeah. Yeah that book I did a solo cast of a bunch of it. I'm going to release it one of these times. I got to brush it up a little bit. But I want to take some of the stuff that I had in there and put it out and put something else in there. I'm not happy with it yet. But it goes over a lot of that book.
I'm curious. Cozy Powell tells a story told a story about Richie Blackmore. Oh yeah go ahead. About being fired from the band. The legend as Cozy told it he was in the band with Richie Blackmore.
And they'd been working on some stuff and they quit for the day and he went back to his wherever he was staying and he woke up the next morning and his sheets and blankets of his bed were smoldering.
Just a little low fire but they were all burning. So he put it all out and thought what? Weird as hell. I wonder how that happened. And a couple hours later he was ready to go back to the studio and work. So he called up Richie and said I'm ready. What time is the band getting together?
And she said didn't you get the message? You're fired. Wow. So that was Cozy's version of what happened. That would be pretty scary. It would be. Bob Daisley. Right? Bob Daisley famous songwriter. He was in Rainbow.
Bassist. He wrote a lot of stuff for Ozzy. A lot of stuff. And he wrote a lot of other things too. He was a really good bassist. He has a book called For Fact's Sake and he's in your right. He's in all these legendary bands and he's just a fantastic bassist.
He came up with those crazy noises. The bass noises that were so scary and dark. Yeah Bob Daisley is just awesome. He's one of my favorite ever. Well he wrote a book called For Fact's Sake and he was in Rainbow and he is also in Blizzard of Oz.
Oh okay. Okay. Well Rainbow was of course a few years before Blizzard of Oz. So he was getting ready to go on this tour bus and there's this guy that came up and he announced himself as a new tour driver.
And Blackmore goes, hey Bob. You know how Blackmore had that kind of crazy look in his face. And he goes, yeah what? He goes, who is that guy? That's our tour driver. No he can't. He can't. What? What do you mean? He's got a black aura. Get him out of here. He can't drive us.
So he had to give him the good news. Hey Richie Blackmore doesn't really like you. You gotta go. He doesn't want you to drive. So the guy's like okay he leaves. A few years later he sees the same guy and he is the bus driver for Blizzard of Oz.
So they're in Orlando and there's this little Cessna type plane. The guy used to have, this guy with the black aura, he used to have a pilot's license but didn't anymore but nobody knew that.
He said yeah I got a pilot's license. Randy Rhoades was scared to death of planes. And he talked him into getting on that plane. He goes, come on man. He goes, here I'm gonna break you of this.
So Randy Rhoades said okay. He talked him into getting there and also their hairdresser and he decided he was going to have a little fun by buzzing the recording studs.
He nicked the tour bus, almost killed Ozzy and Sharon. If it would have been just a couple of feet lower it would have blew them all up. But their tour bus almost tipped over and then they heard a huge crash because it hit the building over there and they were on the tour bus.
And that was the guy with the black aura. Richie was right. Yes. He killed himself, Randy Rhoades and the hairdresser for the Blizzard of Oz and Ozzy.
So I guess he did have a black aura didn't he? Yeah apparently did. Vince Neil must have one too because he killed the drummer for Hanoi Rocks. Yeah, Razzle. Razzle, that's right.
Did you know that him and Michael Monroe made up? Oh I didn't know that. They hated Vince Neil. They hated him because their feelings is he murdered their friend.
And yeah Vince never should have gotten behind the wheel. He knew he never should have gotten behind the wheel. Everybody at the party should have stopped him and taken his keys away.
That's what I say too. I think everybody had a part in that including Razzle. Razzle let him drive him. Oh yeah. He got in the car with him. Yeah but Hanoi Rocks were understandably very upset.
And that was the whole Vince Neil Axl Rose feud. Axl Rose was a huge fan of Hanoi Rocks. So he was mad at Vince Neil.
And you remember that feud they had for a few years and they're going to fight each other but of course they didn't because they're rock stars.
So that was because he said that he wanted to beat Vince's ass for killing Razzle Dingley. Yeah.
As I recall Hanoi Rocks was poised to make a big move to become more popular. They were. I wish we would have found out if they could have made that move successfully.
I love the music. I love the music they have released over in England. Ironically the whole big thing that blew up around the death of Andrew Wood and Mother Love Bone. Led to grunge.
Yeah. I've listened to some recordings of Mother Love Bone. Sucks. No no no. It was glam. It was glam. Yeah.
But the thing is the guy was an excellent singer and an excellent showman. The music sucks. He was a Dingley Roth type. Yeah he was.
Yeah long blonde hair. He did the high kicks and all this stuff. He was very flamboyant. But it was nothing to do with grunge. No.
It's just that's what the guys who liked him were into. Yeah. But if you look at the later pictures of Andrew Wood before he died.
There's a lot of them with him and Kurt Cobain. Yeah they were both into heroin at the same time. Yes. And they both looked like beatniks. Yeah.
So he changed his whole thing. This is after Mother Love Bone fizzled out. Yeah. And he was looking for another band. And him and Chris Cornell were great friends. Yeah.
And he was looking at starting another band but then he passed away from I think heroin. Heroin overdose. Yeah. Yes I thought. Yeah.
But they so Stone Gossard. Eddie Vedder. Yeah. Chris Cornell. Matt Cameron on drums. Matt Cameron. Was it Kim Thal?
I don't think Kim Thal was a part of this. No I'm trying to think who played bass. It might have been the bassist for Sound and Garden. Matthew Shepard?
I think so. Yeah. Amazing bass player. Yeah. Oh. Amazing. Yeah his stuff is incredible. Yeah. I think it might have been.
So they formed Temple of the Dog which was only a tribute to Andrew Wood. Yeah. And the song it hit was Hunger Strike. Yeah.
And that really wasn't even about Andrew Wood so much. No. No. And it was. Say Hello to Heaven was about Andrew Wood. Exactly. Yeah.
I think Hunger Strike had the benefit of it being a duet between Chris Cornell and Eddie Vedder. Yeah. Yeah.
And on there you can see how far and above Chris Cornell was over Eddie Vedder. Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God.
When you hear the two singing together it's like I kind of like this one better. This guy has a lot more range and a lot more power.
Yeah. I liked Eddie Vedder and I liked the first couple Pearl Jam albums but then they just got a little far from my musical tastes.
Yeah. The same here. A little strange for me as far as I was concerned.
Yeah. You know and then when Say Hello to Heaven came out that was a really, really good song too. Yeah.
But that was the one that was actually dedicated to Andrew Wood and the whole reason they formed that little collaboration was they weren't going to stay a band.
They did it for Andrew Wood. Yeah. There was another song about him on that album called Reach Down. Yes.
You had to reach down and pick the crowd up. Uh huh. Yeah. All Night Thing was kind of about jamming.
That's the song that ended. It's a great album. Like Wood and Jesus has nothing to do with Andrew Wood.
No. They wrote other songs on it too but they had certain songs. They had to fill out the album. Yeah.
It would have been an EP without all those other songs. Yeah. So they put it all together. Yeah.
And that reignited actually because it was released earlier. Yeah. And it kind of didn't go anywhere. Yeah.
And I believe it was a DJ from Detroit. Yeah. Because the music scene was getting really stale.
Yeah. It was after Soundgarden and Pearl Jam had both made it and then they'll here's this project from a couple years back.
It's like oh really they did this and they did it before they were famous. Wow. Yeah.
And they're like wow who is this? These are you know the leading dogs. Yeah. Yeah.
So when this DJ started playing that again they're like oh my god. You know and it started hitting big.
And then that's when Grunge really started taking the climb. Because before Soundgarden had somewhat of a hit with Outshined.
Yeah. Rusty Cage had some radio play, airplay. Yeah. A little bit. Outshined had a little bit of radio play.
Allison Chains wasn't really hitting it yet. They were still. Yeah. The album before Dirt was Facelift. Facelift. Yeah.
And that had Man in the Box but not too many other of those songs hit. Yeah. But that came after.
Right. And it wasn't hit when the album came out. No. As a matter of fact I don't even know.
Was it released yet? I don't even know if it was released yet. It might have been like really somewhere close. Yeah.
I'm not sure. There are a lot of reissues. As soon as something hits the record company goes back and says find everything we got on them and re-release it now.
Well that's where Bleach came from. Nirvana. Nobody knew about it. I mean they were a Seattle band and only people around there knew about it. Yeah.
So when Nirvana came out with It Smells Like Teen Spirit and Nevermind. Actually the whole album Nevermind hit so big that they went back and looked at everything that they did and they found Bleach and they said hey let's re-release this.
Yeah. And then it was popular to like Bleach. Yeah. They didn't really like it for itself. It was just you wanted to be seen liking it. Yes. Yeah.
And let me correct myself. It wasn't Matthew Shepard on bass. It was Ben Shepard. Ben Shepard. Matthew Shepard. Matthew Cameron was the drummer. Matthew Cameron. That's right.
Yeah. So I combined the drummer and the bass player into one person. Yeah that's right. That's right. Okay. Thank you. But it was Ben Shepard and Matt Cameron on drums. Ben Shepard. Yeah. He was a hell of a bassist. Oh my gosh.
So let's see. Okay. Louder Than Love which was Soundgarden's first album I believe didn't do anything when they re-released it. It was too different. Yeah. People didn't like it.
When Faith No More hit with their song Epic. Epic yeah. And Falling to Pieces they had a previous album called Introduce Yourself and they re-released that and it went nowhere. It went nowhere. Yeah.
And that's because they were too different from what they were that people knew. Yeah. And then the next one came out Angel Dust and it was a little different from. I loved Angel Dust. I do too. There are so many good songs on Angel Dust.
It's just so different that it didn't get really radio play because it was too different. The big difference is in the first two albums, Introduce Yourself and The Real Thing, the guitar player helped write a lot of the songs.
But he was getting really disenchanted with the band because the singer Mike Patton was such a weirdo. So when the third album, Angel Dust, came around the guitar player was like just call me when you got the songs written I'll come in and record my parts.
That's all the effort he wanted to put into it. So the bass player, the keyboard player wrote most of that third album. Oh yeah. And there are only a couple songs where the guitar is really a major part of the song.
And then their fourth one I think was King for a Day Fool for a Lifetime. I didn't buy that one so I don't know what's on it. But then he quit and joined Mr. Bungle. Mr. Bungle has been way better than Fabian Wynway. Yeah, I agree too. Mr. Bungle is much better.
So much more range on what they do. Mike Patton is such an amazing singer. He is. But people don't know him. Yeah, his music is not all that accessible but he has got all the talent in the world.
He did a Gherman concert. That's when you realize how good he is because he does all these things. Like he was doing little commercials and stuff. I saw him open up to Robert Plant. Which was an odd combination. Yeah, that is.
But he opened up to Robert Plant and it was probably late 80s. I think this is Manic Nirvana Tour. That would make sense, yeah. Probably late 80s or 88 or something like that. And that's where it was like going oh my god he used a Led Zeppelin clip, They're Getting Back Together.
Was that Lighten Up Baby? Yeah, Tall Cool One. Tall Cool One, that's it. Yeah, he used a famous Jimmy Page dive bombing on that. And it was like oh they're getting back together. No, he just used that, that's all.
But he took Fake No More as their, I think they had the same record company. Oh, that makes sense. I believe. They were both on Epic maybe. So anyhow, for whatever reason he had Fake No More opening up for him.
And Mike Patton, he didn't care. He did the Nestle commercial and a couple other commercials and he just sang them in between songs. He starts singing commercials and he's doing high notes, low notes, somewhat rapping. And I was like center going man this guy is so talented nobody knows him.
He's so versatile. Yeah. And I mean you can hear it in concert but his songs and his groups that he's in do not accentuate anything like what he is. Yeah, yeah it's got to be one of the cases where he could sing just about any genre of music that he wanted to, but he doesn't want to.
The kind of music that he wants to do just really doesn't exploit his abilities. No, and he's kind of a weird energetic guy. So what's that weird kind of energetic music like to Fake No More or especially a Mr. Bungle. Mr. Bungle is more like what he likes to do.
Yeah, and it's better. It fits him better. Yeah, but you would never guess what a good singer and how versatile and I'd like to know how many octaves he sings because I do believe it's a pretty good one. Yeah, pretty good amounts. Yeah, I've seen some reaction videos where vocal coaches are watching a live performance from Mr. Bungle.
And this one vocal coach was, she'd stop the video and say that thing that he just did in the last three seconds, incredibly difficult. And he did it flawlessly that looked effortless. She said I don't know who this guy is or where he learned to sing but this is amazing.
She said there's nothing I could teach this guy, not a thing. Wow. Another one they did that to and I don't think it was the same time was Ronnie James Teoh. True. They did that to three vocal coaches and they're all like oh my gosh who is this guy.
And they didn't realize his genre of music or anything he looked like or acted like but they're all really surprised. They're thinking he was opera or something. They're like wow, they go man that guy's really good and they said well he belongs to this group Black Sabbath and they're like what?
It makes sense if you're a talented singer, you could sing whatever genre you put your mind to. And most of them are really versatile like that. And it's like people who can play guitar are probably good at playing drums or bass or if you have that basic ability.
Yeah that's right. It's the same with a singer. If you're really awesome at singing rock then you could probably sing jazz or country or easy listening if you wanted to. It's a matter of can you sell it the way you sell the music you really like.
They did this on the internet a long time ago. You probably look it up still. Three of them did it to Ozzy. Two of them hated him. They said this guy's horrible. And the third one goes this guy isn't much of a singer but he sounds really good.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah he said technically he scores a minus 10. But he said listenability he's probably 100%.
Yeah and there are a lot of amazingly successful bands and singers who really weren't all that good at singing but they made up for it in their charisma.
Their charisma and their tone.
Jim Morrison had an interesting voice. He could sing okay. He wasn't all that disciplined. There are things that he just couldn't do.
But he could give you that deep rich soulful voice or he could give you that screech. Depending on what.
Well he and Ashbury.
On stage he had the mystery. They didn't play on stage all that much but there was a lot of mystery surrounding him so that's what sold it.
Yeah. Yeah that's true. He and Ashbury got really bored playing Jim Morrison on Broadway. I think they even toured. It was because of Morrison's vocal range wasn't that great.
They didn't challenge him.
No. He was like man he goes it was fun to do it first but he said I got to where I dreaded it. I knew exactly what I was going to do where and he said none of it was challenging at all.
Yeah. Earlier today I was practicing along with a band called Cigarettes After Sex. Awesome music. Beautiful ethereal great mood setting music. You could put it on and meditate. It's so awesome.
But I've seen their live show. The drummer has a ride cymbal that he plays with his right hand. His right hand does nothing else but play on that ride cymbal.
And that's it.
And he's got a kick drum and he's got a snare and his left hand never leaves that snare. And then for his left foot he's got a pedal that activates a tambourine. So that's what he has. Kick, snare, ride cymbal, tambourine.
He never plays any fills. He just plays a straight beat without variation through the whole song. No kidding. And that is such amazing discipline and that's why I play along with it because I get the impulse to throw in a fill or throw in something exciting but it never comes.
You can't even beatbox.
No.
You're always throwing shit.
But it's like six minutes of the song and it does the exact same rhythm, the exact same tempo and it never changes. And that drummer probably goes out of his mind unless he's got some other outlet.
Oh sure he does.
But for me that's awesome discipline. Can I play six minutes of just this beat and never vary and never have the impulse to throw in a fill or anything extra? It's difficult. That's just why I do it.
That would be.
Yeah.
Well it's like playing the same rhythm over and over.
Back in the disco era when a lot of really mediocre to bad disco songs all had the exact same beat.
You know open and close on the hi-hat and the kick drum is thumping on one and three or the two and the four. I don't even care. Anyway so you just alternate between the kick snare, kick snare, kick snort and the hi-hat going constantly. And that's pretty much all you do through the whole song.
You might get a fill here and there. Bored the snot out of me. It's like I can already play this. I'm not learning. I'm not growing. Why would I want to play this?
I can understand the drummer who's on the record. He's getting paid for that. So that's why. The guy who's doing the tour, he's getting paid for that. But me practicing at home, that's the last thing I want. It's just yawn.
Give me something challenging. Even Ringo was more fun to play than that.
Yeah you know. Well Ringo, I mean Ringo just played what he had to also. He was never like trying to do anything.
Yeah he always knew he was not as important in the band as the singers were. No he knew his role and he played it well. I had a great deal of respect for him.
Yeah definitely. And then the same with Nick Mason from Pink Floyd. Yeah that's a great example. He knew what he did and he was just like eh.
He was never going to be the focus. Well occasionally he's the focus of the song. Like another brick in the wall he did the disco beat for that. Yeah that's true.
Thump smack, thump smack. So that really drove the song. But for the most part he was, I mean you didn't really listen to specifically listen to what the drummer was doing.
It was just part of the overall experience. Yeah it just fit in the song so well. Yeah it really did. Really really did. Yeah always admired him as a drummer.
Alright you got anything to go into here? I got a short little bit on Alex Van Halen. Okay cool. He recently was awarded the 2024 Buddy Rich Award.
There's an online platform called Drummio. They offer lessons and materials and they network artists and various other people.
It's like this massive online presence for drummers and others. So they have the yearly Buddy Rich Award. And they awarded it to Alex Van Halen this time.
And it's kind of like their version of the Hall of Fame. If you get the Buddy Rich Award you get it once and you're kind of, it's like the same as being in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
Okay. And he was a phenomenal drummer. I can pretty much guarantee that he wasn't as big a jerk as Buddy Rich was. Buddy Rich yeah.
Nobody worked with Buddy Rich because they liked it. They worked with him because it was good for their career and he paid okay. Yeah he paid okay.
But he was just like the most miserable person to be around. See I know you got this Ozzy story. Yeah yeah please yeah.
And then I mentioned the previous podcast, the Motley Crue self-titled album from 1994 disappearing from almost every streaming platform that it was available on.
They're leaving the song Hooligans Holiday behind because that was on their 99 compilation album Supersonic and Deonic Relics. It was? I didn't know that.
I'm pretty sure so. Okay. And the rest of the album, the self-titled one, you can still find it on YouTube but not Power to the Music and Uncle Jack, the first two tracks on the record. They're gone.
Oh I love those songs. So unless you have a copy of it somewhere on your phone or the physical CD or something. I got the physical CD. You can't access those songs anymore anywhere.
The artist has removed it and you can't access. See that's the problem with if you have to get online to access something then someone can take it away.
And you just never get access to it again. Mick Morris, one of the bullet points in his lawsuit is they're trying to erase his whole legacy. Yeah and John Krabi too.
Yeah this is probably the move to try to pretend like that album never existed, Vince Neil never left the band. They're sugar coating their history for some reason.
He's six in general because he seems to be the instigator of all this. Yeah. Why would he care?
I really don't know. And it could be that he does have no good reason to do this. Maybe he's just being a jerk. Maybe the record company?
Yeah maybe this is just a petulant whim on somebody who decides he wants to punish somebody. They don't always have good reasons for the things they do.
Mick Morris sued him and he did. He wrote something on X the last year. Fuck 2024, all the backstabbers and all this stuff.
And everybody followed that with all these comments going on. They knew exactly who he was referring to. Yeah looking in the mirror bitch and all this stuff.
I think that he realizes that he ruined his name and he's pissed. But you know what? Don't fuck with Mick Morris man.
Mick Morris was one of the biggest parts, if not the biggest part of your sound. Vince Neil had the banshee voice. Tommy Lee had the fucking loudest percussion.
The most percussion of percussion that you've ever heard. He was so solid and so fluid. He played just the right thing. He had the knack for knowing exactly what fit the song at that point.
Yeah he was like a fantastic upper echelon drummer. It can't all be the producer. He had to be coming up with some of that himself.
What is the weak link off of that? The bass. The bass is extraordinarily ordinary.
Carol Kay played bass on their first three albums didn't it? Nikki Sixx didn't play a note. Was it Carol Kay? Yeah that's Carol Kay.
And she was actually coming up with some of those bass lines too and then Nikki had to go ahead and learn them. Go ahead and learn them because he got kicked out of WASP early version of it. I forgot what they called it.
Maybe Bumblebee. What is it? Bumblebee. Was it Bumblebee? Oh okay I don't know. Hornet.
Well he went there to Nikki Sixx and I forgot someone else that couldn't play. Went there to Blackie's house and they thought that their look was going to get him by.
And Blackie is a musician. He's a guitar player and a bass player and he's good. I mean you know he's not the best of her but he's a serious musician.
He made them both leave and they asked him about it not too long ago. A couple years ago he didn't bring it up himself. He never brought it up.
But someone knew about it and they go hey could you tell us about Nikki Sixx and I forgot who the other guy was but he goes yeah. He goes they couldn't play.
They came over to my house and they looked cool and everything but then when it came to play he said they couldn't do it. He said I made them leave.
And let's see. But you know that's all they want anymore if you have the right look and they're willing to take direction.
You know you can be created into any kind of star for any genre of music or acting or whatever they want to turn you into.
You don't even have to be good at anything. Just have the right look and do what they tell you. And you can have an amazing money making career but most of the money you make is going to go to the people surrounding you of course.
But that's pretty much what happens anymore. Natural talent, songwriting ability. Those are farmed for material to give to the person who has the right look.
Yeah. Oh face like that we can sell a lot of music. Your face? You write great music but nobody wants to buy your face.
Okay it was Circus Circus. And then it changed it to Piper.
Imagine the casino in Vegas probably said no you can't call yourself Circus Circus.
I think that might have been part of the problem actually. And that's what Randy Piper, Rick Fox bassist and Tony Richards drummer.
Randy Piper and Tony Richards made it to the original version of Wasp.
And there's another name after Circus Circus and they're not putting it on here. I don't know why. Interesting.
So yeah. But it was Circus Circus when they both came over he put an ad in some local LA magazine.
Yeah they had a magazine specifically for that.
Yeah and then Bob Rock said the same thing. He said when he was working with him before he said, Nick he said, hey I don't play like anybody else.
He's like okay well how do you play? I don't really play.
Yeah he figured it out very quickly. It was time to record the first album. He's like somebody bring in a bass player.
Yeah but we need one. But they couldn't get rid of him at that point. No he was part of the image.
Yeah because when Bob Rock came aboard they'd already released Too Fast for Love was re-released.
Shout at the Devil was released. Theater of Pain was released. And I think Girls was released.
I think Bob Rock started on Dr. Phil Good or was it Girls Girls Girls?
I'm not sure. I get those two albums kind of mixed up anyway.
I'm like Girls better. I think it had a... well I mean the progression of Motley music got worse each album.
Yeah pretty much. Unfortunately.
Yeah but he said when he came back to do the dirt with him Nick he's a fantastic player now.
Yeah he finally got around to learning. Yeah and he does really good on it.
Yeah. There's still doubt whether he's actually playing live on stage. Once you get a flawless recording of the bass line he can't replicate that on stage.
So they just play it. It's like Roger Waters from Pink Floyd. The guitarist David Gilmore recorded a lot of his bass parts for him.
Or double tracked him or at least came up with the parts and had to teach them to him.
But a lot of those Pink Floyd tours Roger Waters would have to get the album and learn the bass parts that David had played so they could go do the tour.
Yeah. Yeah like on Money that starts with that bass line. David Gilmore came up with that.
And David Gilmore recorded that. And then Roger Waters had to learn it so they could do the tour.
Wow. Crazy. Yeah so let's see how this all starts. Okay the lawsuits and all that and erasing the memory or the whole legacy of people.
I don't know why I care. He was the weakest link. Besides Lookwise and everything. Yeah.
He was the weakest link to that band. And I don't understand. Mick Morse's sound might have been the most prominent feature of those songs.
And then Vince Nance. Well I don't know. They're all really really good.
Yeah but typically a bass player can be replaced in the band and a lot of times people don't even notice.
A lot of people didn't notice when Tool replaced their bass player.
No but Nicky had a very distinct look. True. Yeah he would have been noticeable.
But that is the position of the band where it's you know that and drummer are pretty easy to replace. Yeah. Yeah.
Unfortunately for me. I got replaced a few times. That's what drummers are there for. Yeah that's true.
But you know I took somebody else's job a couple of times who had been replaced. So it works out.
Pretty much if you have a fight with a drummer you get rid of him. If you have a fight with a guitar player you try to work it out.
Yes. The singer you try to work it out. And I learned that you know when they say well yeah we had to fire the drummer for artistic differences.
Well that's code for he slept with somebody's girlfriend. Evidently Richie Cotton did that to Poison.
Yeah. They got rid of C.C. DeVille and brought him in and he banged all their girls and they fired him.
I can't blame them for that. I can't either. Of course I'd get rid of my girlfriend too.
Yeah I don't know if they did or not but probably did. But isn't that funny. It is.
He's like hey I know these other guys are a bunch of pussies. I'm not.
That is like one of the basic instinctive ways for a male human to assert his dominance is by sexual activity.
Outbreed the other males. You know grab the female. I mean it's so caveman.
Oh yeah. He pissed on everyone their legs and they took it.
Oh I got 10 singers I would like to sing me to sleep. But then 10 that I would not want to sing me to sleep.
Oh yeah. I was supposed to come up with that one. I think you came up with this.
No I was going to. I forgot about it. So I can try to come up with some on the fly.
Well I'll come up with mine right here. Okay one of them that I would like to sing me to sleep would be Ozzy.
Yeah he's got a good voice. Yeah he's got a very relaxing type of a voice. A very chilling voice.
Not really powerful. Kind of mellow but a little bit of power. Good. Yeah.
I think Wayne Newton would be a good one to go to sleep with you. Chris Isaac would be a good one.
Chris Isaac's a good one. This one not in his Black Sabbath album but the Deep Purple albums would be Ian Gillan.
Black Sabbath Born Again he screams. Oh my gosh man that's. Yeah.
How about Ann Wilson? Oh yeah. See a big good one. Yeah Gordon Lightfoot. Oh yeah Gordon Lightfoot.
Canadian folk music. Yeah his music and the way he sings both are good. Yeah songs about trains and breakups.
He could have almost been a country guy. He knew nothing else. Yeah. God rest her soul.
Christy McVie. Oh I loved her voice. Oh I liked her so much better than Stevie. Me too.
And her look too. Yeah I thought she was way prettier. Oh she was way prettier and her voice was so good.
Yeah. So much better than Stevie Nicks. Yeah. Of course I also liked Mary Ann better than Ginger. Yeah me too.
I listen everybody like Mary Ann better than Ginger. Yeah. It's like one of those things they were trying to sell something in Hollywood but it wasn't true.
On one day at a time I liked Valerie Bertinelli better than Mackenzie Phillips. Yes. Yeah.
She was much better looking and very just nice and gentle. Yeah. Yeah.
The next one I got is Ian Ashbury. Oh from the cult. Yeah. Yeah. I've always liked his voice. Yeah. Really distinctive.
Very distinctive but very underrated too. People don't ever go hey who's your favorite singer Ian Ashbury you never hear that. Yeah.
But it should be said he's really good. He is. John Lennon. Oh yeah that's a nice voice. Yeah I just like his style on most stuff.
Especially. Oh go ahead. I was going to say if you like his music Roy Orbison has a very gentle suit. Yes.
That's someone I should have put on here actually. Roy Orbison is another good one. Roy Orbison was I wouldn't call him a crooner.
I wouldn't call him big band. I don't know what I would call him. I know he didn't really fit.
I mean he was sorta crooned and he was sorta country and he was sorta old time rock and roll. He was a little bit almost even western. Yeah.
Yeah it was really really hard to pigeon hole him so you just had to kind of create a subcategory for him.
They say the people that were music moguls back then said that that was the guy if he had the good looks like Elvis would have surpassed Elvis by far.
Oh yeah he had the voice but most people did not find his face appealing. No. No. But Elvis looked fantastic and had a good enough voice. Yeah.
Alright the next one I would say Chris Cornell. Wow yeah that's kinda on the borderline. I don't know if I could go to sleep to his voice. I'd probably be trying to pay attention.
I'm going by his solo albums. Yeah. And not a lot of people know them but Euphoria Morning there's a lot of mellower songs on that where his voice is just clear and soft and just beautiful.
And then Andreas Pacelli. Oh yeah. Yeah. I haven't heard that name for a while.
I don't know if he even plays anymore. I remember I didn't know he was blind until way later. Yeah. He's probably made enough money back during his heyday that he doesn't need to work if he doesn't play.
I don't think he does much of anything anymore. I haven't heard anything from him in a long time. Yeah I haven't either. Now five I would not. Oh okay.
Steven Tyler. Oh yeah you can't fall asleep. Oh god.
Tom Petty would be another one. Oh that would be. Too nasally. Yeah yeah. Bob Dylan. Bob Dylan's another one. Yeah I'd be getting up to vomit every three minutes.
I never got it with Bob Dylan. Look I know his poetry. I know he was like all that. I just never really thought that much of him.
I know yeah I remember expressing that opinion to somebody and they countered with but his songwriting and his lyrics mean so much and social confidence.
And it's like yeah I get all that but the dude can't sing. No I don't. The sound of his voice is horrible. He should have written all those songs and let somebody else sing them.
Yeah I agree. And the guy was ready to punch me. It's like honestly the dude can't. It's like Neil Young. The dude cannot sing. Oh god.
Neil Young. He puts emotion into his voice but he cannot sing. It was like taking a chalkboard and just going grrr.
The next one that I would not like to sing me to sleep would be Glenn Danzig. Oh yeah. Yeah that would not be so good.
Glenn Danzig. Everything he does he does well because it fits what he does. But he's not much of a singer really.
Well how about William Shatner who played Captain Kirk. He did a spoken language version of spoken word version of Lucy and this guy with diamonds.
Yes and I love it actually just because it's him doing it. He even sings like he talks. I can't even do it.
Followed her down to a place by the river with tangerine horses and marmalade skies.
And Leonard Nimoy not to be outdone did an album where he's singing songs about Bilbo Baggins and all the other things. Oh yeah. Oh my god that was horrible.
I would not be able to fall asleep to that. Sorry. No. No. Number one singing songs about Bilbo Baggins is fucking retarded.
Or mentally challenged. How much can you be into that mystical Hobbit type.
You've got to really devote your life to being an outcast. Yes. You've got to like people. Marginalized, fringed, made fun of on every TV show.
Must love being kicked in the nuts constantly. The next one that I would not like to sing me to sleep would be Johnny Rotten.
Oh yeah. Yeah. How about a duet between Johnny Rotten and Marilyn Manson. Oh I'd love that. But not going to sleep. Not to go to sleep.
You want Night Terrors. There you go. Speaking of Night Terrors, last one. Zach Delarroche. Oh yeah. Yeah.
He's got an interesting voice. You know it's kind of up there into the sinuses too. Well it's like rapish.
But also kind of like Anthony Kiedis on heroin. Oh yeah. On heroin. Yeah.
Anthony Kiedis, drug out on heroin. He took too much and this is the sounds he makes when he's getting ready to die.
Oh before he goes to sleep and shits himself. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Before all that. You've got to do that part.
All I'm out of material. What I've got left is a story about Ozzy. Oh. Ozzy and Black Sabbath are going to reunite for one last time.
In Birmingham on July 5th to play a fundraising concert. It's going to be at Villa Park.
Supposedly featuring dozens of bands that they inspired. Jakey Lee is on that bill. Metallica and Pantera and Slayer, Gojira and Threads.
And you know the Pantera connection don't you? No. That's going to be Zach Wild. Oh that's right. That's right. Yeah that's right.
And then it says the first time that the original line up with Ozzy, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Bill Ward will play together in 20 years.
Yeah because he sat out 13. Bill Ward did not play in 13 on the album or live. He was in some sort of contractual dispute and would not do it.
I want to see this and I'm a nerd of this stuff admittedly. I want to see Zach Wild and Jakey Lee play together. Yeah that would be fun.
Yeah both fantastic Ozzy guitarists that had to fill the shoes of Randy Rhoades after he died. And they both did it very well in their own style.
I mean Jakey Lee really had a tough time because he got flipped off, spit at and all kinds of stuff.
Randy Rhoades died. It wasn't like he quit or Jakey Lee forced him out. I know. Blame it on the wrong guy.
Yeah I know. It's like fuck guys. Do you want Ozzy to keep playing? Well this is the guy. But I got to lash out at something.
Yeah the thing is is Brad Gillis really he deserved more of a more credit because he came right after.
Yeah. And two days he learned everything to play from Sabbath to solo. Yeah to solo stuff.
And he had to learn the staging. Yeah. Where to go, what to do, when the lights are going to hit you. All that stuff yeah.
But then Jakey Lee came in after during Barking the Moon and wrote totally different but came up with interesting good songs.
And also at the same time could play the Randy Rhoades stuff very well too. Yeah. But he put his own touch on it.
Felt like Zach does which I always love. You know try to sound just like the guy. The guy that came up with the music.
You come up with your own version. Anyhow go ahead I'm sorry. Okay. This is the first time I've actually seen it in print where they said that he's largely been forced to stop touring due to a combination of Parkinson's and spinal injuries.
They finally admitted it. That's the first time I've ever seen them actually put it out in a press release that he has Parkinson's. You know what that tells me?
Not too far from the end probably. Yeah. I've been seeing this for a while now. Yeah. Sharon was saying he's doing great. He's really excited about this.
He's you know wanting to be with his friends again but this would definitely be the 76 year old's final show.
Sharon was saying he didn't really have a chance to say goodbye before to his friends, his fans, etc.
And he feels there's been no like full stop. So this is this version of a full stop. You know this is going to happen July 5th and then that's it I'm done. And I believe Ozzy.
I do too. Well he had a European tour booked and he's planning an American one. And he thought when he had this spinal surgery that he was going to get better.
And that was it. But then I guess the Parkinson's kind of kicked in more. Yeah. But also when it goes away his spine was dissolving. Yeah.
It just going to dust and they had to put rods in it and I guess it's very painful and he can't walk correctly. Yeah.
There was a point where if he sneezed he would have paralyzed himself. Yes. Yeah. And also they had to dig out a tumor which wasn't easy either.
And also the Parkinson's he's had it for a long time. It may be a mild reform but it still affects him. Yeah. Sometimes it's really slow progressing.
He has a Parkinson's face. Yeah he does. Yeah which is unfortunate because that's when you're getting in the ladder stages. Yeah.
I remember my dad had Parkinson's face. Yeah. It squishes your like your muscles in your chin. Yeah. And sometimes you have that like grimace.
Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah. To me it's like a slow death. Yeah. It is. In a lot of cases it takes your voice away too. Yes.
So them admitting it tells me that like you guessed it too right off the bat he's probably not very far off. Yeah.
I hope they can get this goodbye off. Yeah. I hope they can. And it's also a way to tell people when we say this is it we really mean it.
Well I'm not even sure if he's going to be standing up during the whole thing. I would doubt it.
They say he's going to do a short solo set and then Black Sabbath will join him on stage.
So they'll have a chance to do both. Do you think that Zack and Jake will join him? I hope so. I hope so too. Yeah.
You talk about a great send off. You have these two legends at least to me. And it really seems like that this whole thing is that that's what this is all about is you know
play again with all the people you've played with before and don't have Zack do Jake's songs and vice versa.
Well Jake claims he loves Ozzy. Yeah. He didn't get along with Sharon. That's what he claims. So if he loves Ozzy they'll figure out a way to do it. Yeah.
So Rage Against the Machine's guitarist Tom Morello is the event's musical director. So you know that's going to be awesome.
Yes. Tom Morello is such a fan of the music. Yeah. He's promising this will be the greatest heavy metal show ever.
I believe Tom Morello. Yeah. Proceeds go to support Kier Parkinson's Foundation, the Birmingham Children's Hospital and Acorn Children's Hospice.
Children's Hospice supported by Aston Villa. Other acts include Alice in Chains, Hail Storm, Lamb of God and Mastodon.
In addition it will feature a super group with stars like Billy Corgan slash Fred Durst. Oh my God. Wolfgang Van Halen and Tom Morello.
Okay. I see everybody with Fred Durst. I know. Okay. Whatever. You know Fred Durst is a fan of the music. So okay. So be it. That's fine.
Sharon says it will be an endless amount of people. They're going to be doing some Ozzy songs, some Sabbath songs. They'll make together.
One they did at the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame where they piecemealed a bunch of people doing his stuff. But it's going to be like a changing lineup.
It's like you'll get a group of people on for a few songs and then someone will leave and replaced by someone else.
It's going to be like kind of like the open jam is where some people get up and some people go but the basic core is still there.
I'm hoping like I'm nostalgic. So I'm hoping like they bury the hatchet with some people like Jakey Lee and I would like to see a hug afterwards and a hey, great work.
When you know hard feeling love you guys. I would love to see that because I think that that would be the proper send off.
Like listen, we all had our issues. Even Zach had his issues with him. Yeah. And I mean he was kicked out of the band for a while. They just kept it low.
That's when they had Joe Holmes come in and then. Oh, fuck, I forgot the Greek guy. Well, Joe Holmes is Greek, too, actually.
Let's see. Gus G. Oh, yes. Yeah.
And then they had someone else, too. And then they went to.
The guy that worked with Glenn Hughes for a while. And now as a producer, I can't think of his name.
So they have a lot of guitarists besides Zach. So it wasn't just Jakey Lee that had problems.
You know, there's, you know, evidently there's a lot of issues between different things going on.
Yeah. So I would think that all of them would just I just because Zach and them get along good and all that doesn't mean anything.
I think that all of them had issues hopefully come together and just don't have any. And it's just a really good last show.
If the Eagles could do it, I think these guys can do it. Yeah. But the Eagles also get two million a ticket.
But no, you're right. No, you're right. The Eagles hate each other. Yeah.
The article went on to talk about their previous farewell show, sold out audience of 16000 people at, let's see, Newton Community Center.
No, no, I'm sorry. Wrong line. The NEC Arena in 2017. They mostly did songs from the early days.
War Pigs, N.I.B., Black and Black Sabbath before finishing with Paranoid.
And that was at the end of an extensive 81 date tour. And Ozzy thanked the fans for their support.
He said, you know, what a journey we've had. You know, it's all been great and blah, blah, blah.
But he really didn't feel like that was a good final send off. You know, following that, he released two more solo albums, Ordinary Man and Patient Number Nine.
They go on to say the ATV crash in 2003 that hurt his back. That's where it all started. The late night fall in 2019.
Yeah, he fell off the steps in Beverly Hills, in the mansion Beverly Hills. And then they had a surgery that he claims that he never should have had.
They sued the doctor over it. And they said that the doctor performed a needless surgery that fucked him up even worse.
And then they tried to get it reversed and it got worse because the bone was disintegrating.
Yeah, sometimes that happens. This article says that he revealed his Parkinson's diagnosis in 2020, but I never heard it.
Yeah, he did. Actually, that's true. But he had it for 10 years. Yeah, slowly progressing disease.
Yeah, he had it for 10 years when they released it. And that's because it was probably no denying it. Yeah. So they had to say something.
Yeah, at a certain point, it just looked stupid. Oh, Andrew Watt is the guy, the other guitarist's name.
Yeah. But there's another one in there too. I can't even think of his name. It was Joe Holmes, Gus G., Andrew Watt.
Yeah. Right now there's somebody screaming at their phone, listening to podcasts. Yeah, that's who it is.
Anyhow, it doesn't matter. Just nerds like me worry about shit like that.
And then the article ends with, he recently told Rolling Stone UK about his desire to return to the stage.
And the two quotes are, I'm taking it one day at a time. If I can perform again, I will.
But it's been like saying farewell to the best relationship of my life.
And the second quote was, I'm not going to get up there and do a half-hearted Aussie looking for sympathy.
What's the fucking point in that? I'm not going up there in a fucking wheelchair. I don't. Oh.
So apparently he's going to figure out a way to be standing. I don't expect him to run around the stage like he used to.
No. He's not throwing buckets of water on people. Yeah. But he's planning to be standing apparently. Good for him.
Good. Yeah. You'll be great. If he's going to die soon anyhow, I want him to do it at the very end on the stage.
Oh yeah. Because he over-exerted himself. Just collapsed with a massive coronary.
Eminent. If it's coming up soon, just yeah, his spinal clap. Come on over fucking butt. Boom.
Wow. That would be the Hollywood movie ending. Yeah. Yeah. Whether that happens or not, when you see the movie in 10 years, that's what's happening.
That's what's going to happen. Who do you think is going to play Aussie in the movie? They already have the guy.
How would you find this? It's a video.
Okay. Ordinary Man, the second to last album, the one before Patient Number 9, it is a biopic that they're going to do about Aussie.
They have the guy. I forgot his name. Oh sure. And he already did a video for it. Neat.
I'm trying to think of the name. I'm going to look up the song. Let's see.
I'm also trying to think of who would play Sharon. Oh. Who's going to play Sharon Osborne?
It can't be somebody too sympathetic. You know, you wouldn't put like Julia Roberts in that role. No.
You wouldn't put Sondra Bullock in that role.
Oh, I know it would be good. Jane Leaves. She was on Frazier as the housekeeper Daphne.
And then she was on Hot in Cleveland with Betty White and Wendy Malik and Valerie Bertinelli.
I think she could, with the right makeup and hairstyle, she could be a very cranky, irate Sharon Osborne when the circumstance called for it.
Okay, actually the name of the song is Ordinary Man. I didn't think it was. I thought it was something else.
Okay, title track. Yeah. Anyhow, the guy's on there. And that's the guy that's going to play him in the movie, they say.
Okay. He resembles him pretty good. Yeah. I mean, we know him too well. Yeah. The haminator would be like, oh.
It's like Alice Cooper. If you see anybody else playing him, you're going to go, eh, it's okay. Yeah. You know him too well.
Yeah. That's why he usually plays himself. Yes, because no one else really can. No one can do it.
I mean, you know, you can see someone play other people that you don't know so well. If someone played Wayne Newton, I'd probably be like, oh, that's pretty good. Yeah.
But people who knew him really well would be like, oh, that's stupid. You know. And the people who played the various members of Motley Crue, I thought they did okay.
They did okay, but we know them too well as a problem. Yeah. It's just like Shotgun, no, not Shotgun Kelly. Machine Gun Kelly. Machine Gun Kelly, yeah.
He was okay, but I mean, he really didn't do anything special being Tommy Lee. Yeah.
You know what popped up on my YouTube feed yesterday was some song that was a duet between Machine Gun Kelly and Jelly Roll.
And it was a cover song. Really? And I thought, who the hell put those two together?
Both are basically just PR and media creations. Jelly Roll is like the new Meat Loaf. Yeah. Yeah. He's trying.
Somebody's trying to sell him to us really hard. Yes. And that's what makes that's what pushes me away.
At least Meat Loaf. They're too desperate. Okay. Jelly Roll does have talent. No, I can't sing good. Absolutely.
So do Meat Loaf. And another thing is, like I said in one of the podcasts, for a big fat greasy bitch, he's got the it. Yep.
Yeah. He draws tail. Doesn't matter if he's sweating ham chunks on top of him. Doesn't fucking matter. He's Jelly Roll. Just like Meat Loaf could.
They're big fat bitches, but man fucking women still swoon over them. And that's because they have that sad warfare. They have that it. They have that.
That sashay. Yeah. The cache. Cache. Yeah. Well, they can sashay too. Gusto. Yeah. Yeah. Gusto.
I guess I have a different perspective. Google it. Because I've known a lot of singers.
And strictly speaking, compared to all these different singers, Jelly Roll is not all that special. No. I mean, he's good. He's decent.
But being a great singer is not as uncommon as a lot of people would think. There have been tons that have never gone anywhere with a career because they didn't feel like it or doing the right time.
Yeah. Or they have the wrong genre at the wrong time. Yeah. Yeah. There's been people ahead of their time and behind their time.
True. True. Yeah. A good example would be like when Glamrock was going on. And like one of the bands that like hit it a little bit too late was like Trickster.
Oh, yeah. I remember Trickster. They should have been much bigger. Yeah. But the time they broke,
the scene was changing. Yeah. The scene rapidly changing. It became this alternative rock stuff. Yeah. Basically, it just had to be different than what was the mainstream. Yeah. Because people were sick of it.
You know, they got tired of hearing Firehouse ten times. Loverboy had a great career going and then it just went nowhere. Yeah. Because it was done. Yeah. Yeah.
The times had changed and people didn't want to hear that type of music. They didn't want to hear butt rock or whatever anymore. So it was done. Yeah. Grunge did the same fate.
Grunge would have lasted a little bit lesser. We went into this last week, I believe, and about how Nirvana was dying on the vine. Yeah. Until Kurt Cobain killed himself. Yeah. In Unrow, sales were horrible. Yeah.
I went to Memorial Hall and Nirvana was touring in Unrow. Maybe a thousand people there, maybe 1500 at the most. And people were bored. They weren't very good.
I think it's impossible to deny that Nirvana would not have been nearly as popular or iconic if Kurt Cobain hadn't killed himself. No, it was a great business move. You know, it really was. Yeah, it was a great business move.
And people have been assassinated for less than that. Yes. And it does make you think it could have happened. It could have happened. It could have happened easily. My mind is open to the possibility. Me too.
So, yeah, they wouldn't have been as big, but the music seemed to last longer and the fervor went nuts because that was during the 80s hangover. Yeah. The Depression era. Yeah. The angst. And that's why I make fun of it on douchebags. Yeah. You're the generation of angst and change, noncompliance.
Now, everyone of them are fucking corporate executives. Yeah. They're in their own business. And it's funny. Total sellouts to what they thought they'd be. Yeah. And hey, I'm one of them. Yeah. All of us are. Yeah. I mean, we all want to live good. We all want to have our stuff. We all want to do well in life. So you're going to have to join it or you're going to be one of the guys in their basement, you know, in your mom's basement.
So I don't, you know, it's just the way it is. Like right now. I don't even know if that's even considered right now. Like, oh, are we sellouts? I don't even think it goes that far now. I don't even think they think like that. I think. Remember when hustle culture was the big thing? Yeah. Keep grinding. Keep making money. Yeah. Keep going. Yeah. I think that normalized selling out and selling out became just another tool in your arsenal to make money and get yours. I can always do this. Yeah.
It's like serious movie stars doing TV commercials. They used to never do that because it would wreck their career. Yeah. Now it's kind of like, oh, yeah, you know, that was pretty good. Yeah. And also there's something to be like breaking character. It used to be you never did that. Now it's like you do it because it's cool. Yeah. Hey, do you see someone come out and they love animals? They love kittens and he's like a cold blooded killer on. Yeah. Like now it's cool. But back then it's like, hey, yeah.
Yeah. Whatever your persona was, you had to maintain that all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Scarface didn't go around petting cats and giving children lollipops. Marilyn Manson tried to act really satanic all the time. Yeah. And now it's like, you know, nobody. They don't care that it's an act that you're putting on. They're like applauding you for being good at it. Yeah. Yeah. Just be your regular person here. But when you get on
stage, we totally believe you. That's exactly what I was thinking right there is. Yeah. This now it's now it's kind of like, oh, we're glad you're versatile one before. Be like, my guy doesn't do that. Yeah. Stay in your lane, man. Yeah. Yeah. Don't do that ever again. That's bullshit. So, yeah. I mean, but I mean, we also live in a world where people accept Vince Neil. Oh, yeah. Yeah. You read some of the comments about Vince Neil's
life performances, and there's so many people who say, I don't care. I loved him. And it was such a great time. And then they're remembering the past and then looking at this current guy and saying, you are responsible for those great memories in the past. You don't really
need to do that. No, no, no. And also, his, his, his gasping for air. He's got a huge gut. And then he constantly tries to make the band of the crowd sing half of his lines because he's gassed. He's not even convincing of that. He just puts the microphone out there. He doesn't even go, Hey, come on. He just puts the microphone towards him. And it's like, what are you doing? He just does that every time he needs a break and catches breath and nobody
cares if the audience isn't singing along. Yeah, nobody. Yeah. When they released the concert video, they'll dub in crowd singing as if everyone was singing along. That'll make it look better. When you see this, like, Oh, look, he's got the crowd training. And actually, they're kind of like looking around.
And somebody going, bullshit, man, I was at that show and no one was singing. Yeah, it was just kind of like that Ozzy when Metallica opening up the ultimate center. I told you, you know, all of a sudden they bring the girl out and then they have their own people hold her up and crowd surfer.
And then they give her base beers or fake spears. And they have her when howling and all that shit. And then they disappear. It's like I was just in the wrong area at the wrong time. I'm on the video. But I mean, it's just kind of like I'm sitting there enjoying the concert. I'm like, what the fuck is this?
Well, hey, that's a girl on the shot in the dark video. What are they doing with her? They got her tied up. And then they started having her crowd surf. But none of us could do it. Yeah, the people they brought in could do it. Yeah, because you're groping her. Yeah, they made everybody else like the Red Sea and Moses like, Okay, you guys go this way and that way. And everybody did. I would have been like, fuck you. This is my seat. I'm moving.
You know that that Bruce Springsteen video where he brings that girl up on stage to dance with him in the dark? Courtney Cox. There are still people who think that would just as a spontaneous thing that just happened out of nowhere. She was a big Bruce fan. They rehearsed for a couple of days beforehand. They got together and they rehearsed the dance they were going to do. And they planted her right there in the stage and the guys with the spotlights knew exactly where to Yeah, yeah, the whole thing was a setup. But they're
There are people who still want to believe in the fantasy of it so much that they refuse
to believe that the whole thing was a setup.
Yeah, yeah.
And the thing is, it's designed to make Springsteen look friendly, accessible.
And Courtney Cox didn't have much of an acting career yet.
No, so she was like, you know, this might catapult my career a little bit.
Now Springsteen's group probably would have been happy if Courtney Cox had never done
anything again and they could maintain the fiction that this just happened.
Oh, I think East Street Man would have been like that, yeah.
But then she got a job on Friends and was like, oh, I remember her from the Dancing
in the Dark video.
She's an actress.
Okay, I get it.
Oh yeah.
Well, it's one of those few, I gotta give Springsteen credit though.
He still has the East Street Band.
He's never dumped them.
Some of them have died along the way, but he keeps replacing them.
Yeah, Clarence Clummons, who else?
He's been replacing guitar players and drummers.
Yeah, Stephen Van Zandt's still there.
Yeah.
I think that's about it.
I don't think he's still has the same drummer, Max Weinberg.
No, what happened to Max?
I think he aged out.
He went and became the musical director on one of those late night shows.
Oh, okay.
Kind of the band director.
Yeah, yeah, okay.
Yeah, but he never did force them out like, oh, Springsteen and you guys are nothing.
I'm the name.
No, he always kept them.
He didn't have to.
Yeah, he definitely had the more sharing kind of work ethic.
Yeah, I respect that about him.
I mean, you know, he never did, I mean, like Bon Jovi.
Yeah, yeah.
But I did find out something that surprised me.
Richie Sambora quit.
He wasn't let go.
That's what I had heard is that he had some sort of emotional crisis or breaking point
or some big shift in his worldview or something.
He wanted to do different types of music, but Bon Jovi, John Bon Jovi was wanting to
keep doing what they're doing.
He was like, no, we're still having success.
Let's keep going.
And Richie kind of felt like he was being put in a corner doing that stuff.
I remember that.
Yeah.
And this is way after the fact.
Everybody thought he was let go for years, including me.
Yeah.
But he did an interview not too long ago, as in like maybe three years ago, maybe four
years ago, where he said, no, he said, I felt like I was put in the corner.
He goes, my artistic, the direction I wanted to go had nothing to do with what we were
doing.
Yeah.
And he said that John wanted to keep doing what they're doing.
He said he didn't really want to have a part of it and he didn't need to.
He had enough money.
He had enough fame.
So he went and did, you know.
Usually at that point, the guy does a solo career.
Yeah, but he didn't do that.
He wanted to do other.
He wanted the whole band to change with him.
Yeah.
And John Bon Jovi, he's like, uh-uh.
No, he said, we're not getting off this screaming train as long as it's paying.
Yep.
Yeah.
So he was smart.
He did other things, but he never did start the Richie Sambora group or nothing.
Yeah.
You know, that would have been a much better choice is to start a side project and release
some albums with them.
Yeah, but yeah, it was weird.
He just decided not to do that anymore.
Yeah.
I mean, but he, you know, I think you looked at it like this.
He made enough money and also the Rockstar treatment hadn't been very good to him either,
if you think about it.
He's had some pretty messed up situations in his life.
Yeah.
You know, the Heather Locklear thing and then who was the girl that he married that was
like his friend's wife or whatever?
She was famous too.
Yeah.
Richie Sambora's wife.
Yeah.
She has a model, but she was someone else's wife and is a friend of his, I do believe.
Richie Sambora's wife.
I think we got Heather Locklear.
Be quiet.
The second one, I believe.
Oriente.
Oh, he's with her now?
Didn't marry her, but they were together from 2014 to 2018.
Okay.
There's one before that.
They only mentioned one spouse, Heather Locklear, 94 to 2007.
Okay.
He was his girlfriend then and she was married to a friend of his.
It was right after him and Heather broke up.
Let's see.
Alcohol problems, tee-tee-tee.
March 2008, the rest of her drunk driving.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that.
His 10-year-old daughter and her friend were in the car while he was driving.
Oh yeah, I remember that now.
Bad news.
Yeah.
Not good.
Let's see, then he said he went back into rehab.
It doesn't say anything about another relationship, but it doesn't mean it's not there.
Okay, let me see.
Indie days.
So we're coming up on two hours.
Okay.
I'm cold.
Okay, yeah, we need to go.
We're out here freezing our asses off to give you this entertainment.
Yes, we are.
His dating history.
You can shut this off if you want.
I'm pretty sure people don't give a shit.
We're the only ones that do.
All right.
I'm going to go ahead and kill it and then you can add stuff later.
Yeah, Denise Richards.
Oh, okay.
Charlie Sheen's ex.
Yes.
Him and Charlie Sheen were friends and he ended up dating her.
Her and Charlie Sheen broke up and he ended up dating her and it turned out bad for both
of them.
I remember.
Yeah, I've heard stories about Denise Richards being a pretty out there person.
Yeah, she was nuts.
Even though Charlie Sheen was pretty nuts too.
Yeah, she was too.
Apparently she matched him nut for nut.
Very chaotic, yes.
So, yeah, so anyhow, Denise Richards is one I couldn't think of.
Wow.
Yeah, so.
I don't know why people found her so attractive.
I don't either.
That shunny mouth of her looked like, she made her look like a catfish.
Yeah, I agree.
I do that.
But it's each their own.
Yeah, but I, evidently it was such a small part of his life that it's hard to find.
Yeah.
I had to look up all his ex girlfriends and she was in the middle somewhere.
It's like a wasted weekend.
Yeah.
All right, everybody, thanks for listening.
Go fuck yourself.
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