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I think our gain is every good. It sounds much better today than it has.
So that's good. We are the sports bastards. Doing bastardy things down at the
city market. Yes we are. People looking at us like we're bastards too. I'm not
actually literally a bastard I guess because my parents were married. Same
here. I mean I think it's the effect. Yeah it's more the way you act.
Yeah yeah. It's kind of a bastard. People go by and go look at that bastard. Now I've been called a horny bastard.
Now I'm okay with that. Yeah of course. Dumb bastard. Nah. I love your coffee company
Toasty Goat. Your hat. Oh yeah that's cool. That's a coffee shop in Columbia, Missouri.
Oh it is? Uh-huh. Oh shit. I go through there every now and then huh. I'll have to give it a try. Is it good?
Yeah it was good. They claim the toasty part refers to you know roasting the
beans or those kind of things. But nah I know what you're talking about. Wake and bake. There's a
dispensary right across it. Yeah. I actually have a coffee cup that's got a bong built in.
I've never used it. It's just fun to look at but it says wake and bake on it. One of the funniest
things ever is and you probably know because you go to Columbia because your kids are there going to
school. They opened up a dispensary right next to White Castle. Oh my god that is so smart. Brilliant.
That is so smart. Yeah and you can tell too. There's a dispensary here that has a chicken
waffle right next door. Chicken waffle? Which one? It's on Bannister. It's the Green Line
Dispenser in Bannister. Oh yeah. Urban loves that place. Yeah it's really nice. Okay. But if you go in
when you go in the dispensary there are little cards for chicken waffle you know for a little
discount. What a great idea. And on the card it says yes we're here in this location on purpose.
Yes we did this on purpose. They just straight up admitted. You got to admit that's entrepreneurship.
That is finest. Yeah. So all right let's get into some of our failures and some of our yeas. Yeah.
We didn't do too bad. No that's good. I mean this time of year four and missing four and five is
pretty solid because this is the time of year as we've seen where teams get tripped up. Yeah. There's
injuries. All different kinds of things happen. Yeah. Yeah. And something that I don't take into
account enough is the players that are playing hurt. You know I understand when they're out but
there's a lot of players that are playing hurt and you just don't know it and that's why they're not
doing so well. Well oh yeah and yeah that's true that's a big one but here's another one too that
I'd like to say. There are some undertones and I'm one of them. Undertone people that are like we
added a game and we're getting ready to add another game. Okay quarterbacks aren't going down like
flies. Why? Because they're protected. True. Wide receivers are going down like flies. Yeah. Defensive
backs. Yeah. These high profile positions that get hit a lot. Well we did add an extra game over two
years ago. Yeah. And we're going to add another game according to that if they're all coming up next year
or the year after. So. Seeing reflections out of the corner of my eye it's like somebody was over here waving at me.
What in the world? I'm sorry. But yeah that's you know each game you got to figure that's like what
70 plays. So two games 140 plays. That's a lot of extra hits and running and jumping and falling and
crashing into people that's. Yeah. There has to be something to offset that. You know more protection
for certain key positions. Mandatory pads and braces and things to prevent some of these injuries.
Who was it? Miles Garrett got stuck in the eye. Yeah. Yeah and you know they it was actually strictly
a penalty for him to take his helmet off during the play. Yeah so he kept it on didn't he? No he took it off.
Oh did he take it off? Yeah. He immediately turned pulled his helmet off and put his hands over his eyes and
collapsed to the ground. But kudos to the officials for not calling that a penalty. Yeah that would
have been bullshit if they did. And also Joe Tooney who accidentally did it. He felt so bad about it. Oh he was right there.
Mahomes him and Garrett are good friends and you can tell. Yeah. Because Mahomes is just as concerned
about it as anyone on his team if not more. Mahomes is over there screaming for help get someone over
here now. How smart is that of Mahomes to make friends with all the best pass rushers? I mean they're
still gonna play a while but they're not gonna take the cheap shots and end his career. Yeah and I got
a great example of that. Max Crosby. Max Crosby had plenty of time to just destroy Mahomes but he
didn't. Yep. Because he respects and likes him. Earlier in their respective careers Crosby was
trying to intimidate him by smacking him on the head every time he went by. And Mahomes called him out
it's like man I don't care if you know I understand you touch me you know just go by you know I get
that but you know don't hit me in the head. That's my head man don't hit me in the head. Yeah. And I
think Max doesn't like playing against Mahomes all that much but he respects him as a person. I think
so too. And you don't want to end your friend's career you still want to beat your friend in the
game but you don't want to end your friend's career. Yeah. So that's that I think is we need
more of that in the game is the players realizing you know we're all brothers in this together.
Let's quit trying to hurt each other. Yeah I agree. Okay here's something interesting okay. Yeah. I
kept hearing the talking heads after the Bills beat the Lions okay. Oh my god you know now all
of a sudden the sexy pick again are the Bills. Yep. Let me remind everybody they gave up 86
fucking points in the last two weeks. 86 points. Yeah yeah that the Bills are winning by outscoring
their opponent. Yeah. Now Miami used to do that back in the 80s remember that. Yeah but they never
won a Super Bowl either and let me remind everybody this right here. Defense wins championships.
Yep. Right okay and who has a great defense that just nobody's talking about. Chiefs have a pretty
damn good one. Yes they do and a team like San Diego could probably beat the Bills.
There's a lot of teams and we're going to find one these surprise teams maybe even Broncos
that are going to sneak up on the Bills if they're not careful. Wow yeah Broncos. Broncos I
you know I talked about Pittsburgh beat my dark horse this year. San Diego, Los Angeles. Yeah I know
what you mean yeah. Okay anyhow going in. But I'm really thinking that Denver is going to break some
hearts this this playoff season. Playoffs? Playoffs! And guess who gets that seat as of right now if
the Chiefs remain number one and now things can change they got three games coming up. Yeah.
Everybody does but Denver would travel to the Bills. That is the way it's set up right now and
that would be wild. That would be a hell of a game even if the Bills win you think they're going to
get out unscathed. No no I would actually have to root for Denver in that game. I would too yeah and
actually honestly look I mean Denver's been bad for so long I don't really have as much venom.
I mean the Raiders of course yeah I always wish them horrible luck yeah but Denver I don't really
necessarily hate them like I used to. Me neither. No me and Denver fans at work talk all the time
you know we're talking I was telling hey what do you think of Bo Nicks you know and they're
talking about stuff like that and you know I don't mother f*** him I talk to him about it. Yeah yeah
well my boss is a big San Francisco fan because he came from there yeah and I talk to him all the
time he ate Shanahan too. So a lot of this rivalry stuff isn't you know isn't necessarily rivalry.
Yeah I mean the Raiders yes I always want them to just be murdered. Yeah I want them to be a good
team and we still murder them. Yeah you know it's no fun when when they're playing poorly I mean
like when they came in last that last time it was 1917 yeah that was exciting because even though
Vegas isn't a very good team they played like one and that's that's how I like it I don't want
the Chiefs to beat them 42 to nothing. No no no that's the kind of game I like that is the kind
of game I like. The tough hard fall one. That is a divisional game that the people are going no no no
we're not going to let them do it again. And you know that's what I want with Denver you know we
we have that with the Chargers. You're gonna get that on the last game you're gonna get that.
Yeah and you know I like you I'm not hating on the Broncos like I used to. As soon as they start
coming in and breaking our hearts then I'm going to go back to loving to hate them. Yeah so they
do it this year but fuck you guys it's back to hating them. Yeah and Los Angeles Chargers I hate
them just because Jim Harbaugh is their coach. Yeah man all the points that somebody put up what
they how many points have they put up on Harbaugh? Oh 40. Tampa Bay 40 points yeah wow that's like
the most or next to the most points ever put up on one of his teams. I know. Man something went
terribly wrong I think after the after the game he said there's not one thing you can point to
and say we did it well not one thing. That's pretty honest. No you know what I gotta give him that.
I mean he's a good coach he's a really good coach and he's honest with himself obviously.
So that's what it takes. Yeah. All right well let's go ahead and get into our picks. All righty
first up we have the Rams at San Francisco. The Rams won 12 to 6. What a weird score. You know what
that was such a pathetic game I could not put it down. Yeah we had them like 30 to 27 but 12 to 6.
This is one of those things where San Francisco obviously has a lot of issues. They have a lot of
salary cap. Is it time for them to start dumping it and just starting over? I don't think Brock
Purdy is going to be the man next year. At the very least they're going to bring in someone to
compete with them for a starting job. Yeah they're going to have to. Was it that game the most recent
game where the Niners linebacker just quit in the third quarter because they took away a starting job?
Yeah yeah yeah actually I didn't bring it with me yeah. Okay well I won't get too much into it
since you got a story but. Well no no I don't have it with me. Oh okay. Like always. Yeah. Yeah he
yeah. Yeah apparently he was taken out and somebody was subbed in for him for the rest of the game
and he just said nah I don't feel like playing anymore today and just walked into the locker
room and quit on him and they they dumped him like the next day. They cut him from the team.
Do you think he'll get another job in the NFL? You know I don't know because I think that that's
kind of becoming the attitude of a lot of players in the NFL. They're realizing I can make a crap
ton of money just because I've been in the NFL. There's podcasts, there's endorsements, you know
there's business opportunities. I saved my money from my first big contract blah blah blah. You know
and. I think that it makes me happy that players are getting to the point where they can tell the
owners I just don't want to do this anymore and walk away. Okay that's exactly what I'm getting
at right there. Yeah. Okay so their body's fucked up, they hurt and they look around and go this
isn't working anyhow. Yeah. You know and then that's how come the Chiefs end up with so many
really good players just on the fly see me out of nowhere is because a lot of these people
like DJ Humphreys come in there and they're like okay
my career is going to be shortened significantly because of my injuries and I really would like
to get a ring. Yeah. I think also the Chiefs need a tackle. Yeah. I'll go there. You know that's
a lot of what happens is a lot of these players are like you know I'm not going to play until
they're 40. No. And they know this or they just don't want to. And they the each generation of
players learns from the previous generation and they see so many of them that made millions while
they're playing and they got nothing now because they lived a high lifestyle. Yeah. Oh yeah. And
so many of them are like oh I can live well but if I do it smart I could live well for the rest of my
life and never have to worry about it again. Yeah they're not like rock stars where all of a sudden
they all call each other even though they hate each other and go look I still hate you but
I need money what about you yeah I do too. Well do you think we could work in the same stage for I
don't know a tour. And just like the music industry that would pay these artists a large amount of
money and then create ways to get it all back from them the NFL is doing the same thing. Exactly.
They pay their players millions and millions and then the NFL will sell will send shady investments
their way to get that money back. Oh yeah yeah there's probably I would imagine a lot of that
going on. Yeah if the NFL can get a 20% kickback by steering a crap investment to some rich player
that's 20% of the money back that they had to pay to that guy. Why wouldn't they do that?
No I know yeah the smart ones as soon as they land any type of money at all is they get the
best investment person they can and they're diversified in so many things that they will
not go broke. And if you can keep the player broke and struggling then he'll sign for less next time.
So it's in the NFL's interest to take that money away from the players as soon as they get it.
Oh yeah guarantee it. Oh anyhow. Anyway so we're talking about linebacker. So we both got this
right didn't we? We did. Good for us. The next game we have is Washington Redskins at the New
Orleans Saints. 20 to 19 was the was the score. Squeaker. The commanders almost blew it. Yeah we
we had a much wider margin. Yeah the commanders looked okay. Yeah. But what's his name? I forgot
his name their quarterback. Jaden Daniels. Jaden Daniels is not doing the same things he was
earlier in the year. He got on a hot streak. I think he's getting tired. He's getting tired.
He's never played this many games in the season before. So I think he's really kind of worn out.
I have them as a dark horse now. I think no this just they're going to go to the playoffs. I think
they will. But that's it. Yeah I could see any other playoff team in the NFC beating them.
I could very easily especially if they land against a Green Bay or somebody. Yeah or Philly.
Or Philly yeah. Yeah Philly is going to be a high seed and Washington is going to be a low seed so
they'll probably see each other. Yeah yeah that's true and I think if there's really a team that's
ascending at the right time there's two of them besides the Chiefs. I mean yeah okay it's Philly
and Minnesota. Yes. I mean everyone's talking about the Lions but number one I gotta say this
Dan Campbell. The guy is not that great of a coach. I don't care what anybody says. He makes
the dumbest decisions but we'll get into that when we get to that game. He's a lot more charisma
than coach and I think people are starting to see that but if as long as it's working nobody's
going to try to change it so there's that. Yeah I counted so many mistakes he made and I know
I know you know I'm just some guy doing a podcast yes I know this but everybody else that I talked
to saw the same thing without me having to say it. Yeah. You know but anyhow go ahead. Well
most of us can't fly a commercial airliner but when the pilot does it bad and crashes we can all
tell. Yeah. So I'm not a head coach but I can tell when it's being done bad. So true. Yeah so you
don't have to be an expert to know when it's being done really poorly. Yes that's right and that's a
great way of explaining it. Yeah. Yeah that's for all the people say well could you do better if you
can't do any better shut up. Okay all right really then shut up about everything. Don't say a word
about anything that you have never participated in. If we all had to live by that rule there would
never be a medical malpractice suit ever. Yeah. Because none of us can do what the doctors do. I
never did heart surgery so I can't sue this guy because I can't prove it. I can't prove it.
I can't sue this guy because I can't prove he did it wrong. I could do open heart surgery but I can
tell when somebody leaves a sponge in me. They're late for their tea time. Yes. All right next game
up the Kansas City Chiefs at the Cleveland Browns. Kansas City won 21-7. Still nobody's talking about
their defense. No. And this is after we lost Watson. Yeah. Who was quietly becoming one of
the shutdown corners. Yes he was he was the good other side to Trent McDuffie. Yeah and Connor
is hurt and Williams is banged up and we are like running so paper thin on that side but still being
productive. Yeah. Spagnolo I mean I can't say enough about him. He is like the Andy Reid,
Bill Belichick if not better of defense and coordinate. Yeah. I mean that guy is a wizard
on the stuff he comes up with. He's like the single parent who opens their fridge and they've
just got a little bit of crap and they can still whip up a Thanksgiving dinner. Yes. That's what
Spags is doing with the Chiefs defense. Yep. He's got like a couple of old lemons and a bottle of
mineral water and some baking soda and somehow he's coming up with a turkey dinner. Yeah yes.
Well I guess the big story is Mahomes being hurt slightly. Yeah the last thing I heard was mild
upper ankle sprain. Okay I think Mahomes is going to play because that's what he does. Yeah. But I
think Carson Wentz is fully capable of beating the Texans. Yeah and I would love to see the
Chiefs modify the game plan to a lot of handoffs and a lot of really quick passes. I would love
to see that. I would love to see that and Carson Wentz is pretty good at that or was pretty good
at that. And I remember before he even joined the Chiefs I said I would love to see Carson
Wentz be schooled by an Andy Reid. Yeah. And it happened. I just think that the guy had a lot of
talent. Yeah. And he had so many things just go wrong. I mean it kind of it just it caught up
you know it's just. Yeah I think this season in the nurturing atmosphere of the Chiefs locker
room. I mean the Chiefs players routinely vote the organization one of the worst in the league as far
as facilities and the way the the owners treat them and their training staff and they're maybe
really low scores. I still say it's just they have a Taco Bell next door nothing else. Yeah. That's
it right there. That's the whole thing. But the Chiefs players always vote their organization has
the greatest locker room and the camaraderie among players. Yeah. So if you get a player who's been
you know abused by some other organizations and you know cynical and doubting and they come to
Kansas City and they're like oh my god I wish I'd been here since the beginning. Yeah you hear that
so many times. It's a good environment and that's part of what revives the careers of the Chiefs
players. The culture is so good. Yeah and the town is so laid back they can go out to dinner and no
one's gonna mess with them. Yeah that's another thing too. People don't bother you here.
And it's so cheap to live here compared to like Chicago or LA or San Francisco. Oh my gosh this is
great. Yeah it's like getting a million extra on your contract. Here's a great example Taylor
Swift spends a lot of time here now a lot of time. It's a lot cheaper to do stuff here. And this is
off season too this is when uh when Kelsey doesn't have to be at Arrowhead Drive you know when Arrowhead
Drive and all you know he can be wherever he wants before you know mini camps and all that set in.
But they're still around here so that would explain something of the atmosphere around here.
It's more relaxed yeah in the Midwest in general. You can get out away into the boonies really quick.
Where Kelsey lives you can get to the boonies in five minutes. Yeah I mean he is extreme
southern Overland Park but actually I think it's probably technically Leewood still. I think so yeah.
But anyhow the whole point is is he could be in the hills of the Blue River in five minutes.
And think about the big cities that are pretty much every square inch is covered by cameras. Yeah.
And they're openly saying that facial recognition is being employed in all these. All over yeah.
And the NFL has admitted they're using facial recognition to scan the audience of every football
game. Yeah that's how come people with warrants are getting fucking picked up right at the end of
the game. And they're also catching people who are selling their tickets. Yes. To somebody else.
Because you know it's like oh that's not the guy who usually sits there. Yeah. They can yeah there's
all sorts of so a celebrity coming here there's way less chance that you're going to get be under
digital surveillance at any given moment. Yeah there's all this stuff and yeah there's a reason
that a lot of the careers stay here. I mean Trent Green still lives here from what I understand and
there's a lot of other people still. I think Kevin Harlan still lives here. The guy who sold Twitter
to Elon Musk still lives in Missouri. He's a Missouri guy. Oh who is that I forgot. Jesse
mentioned his name yesterday but it went right out of my head. There's like 50 different public
schools that he hailed spun in the state. No that's not the guy that started up the two tech companies
on Holmes Road there near the railroad tracks. I don't know. Because that guy he started for what
I understand he started like the first LifeLock. Oh yeah. Yeah but it's way back during the early
internet days and I forgot what they called it. Fishnet or something. His name was Fish something
fish and he lives not very far from us. He lives over there in Timber Trace from what I understand.
So you know right off of Warnall Road there. I remember some of those early LifeLock commercials
at the very first commercials the CEO came out and just told everyone his social security number
and said my product is so good that I can just tell you my social security number and
nothing bad will happen to me. Well then lots of bad things happened to him because his identity
got stolen. So then they changed their tactic to a million dollar guarantee to subscribe to their
service and someone hacks you they'll pay you a million dollars. Well then they have started
having to pay a million dollars out lots and lots. So they changed their tactic again. Now they say
if your identity gets stolen we'll spend up to a million dollars to help fix it. Yeah. So that
means nothing now. That means there's no protection. All they're telling you is well when you fall we'll
pick you up. No as a matter of fact your tactic is now is this right here. Hire the people that are
hacking us. Yes. That's something that's going on now. It's like find out who's doing this and offer
them a job. Isn't that brilliant? It's like okay these guys keep hacking us but yeah yeah you're
right. Just here here we'll brush you off it's okay. Yeah and you know when a company says we'll
spend a million dollars to make it right how do we know? We don't know that. We just have to take their
word that they're going to do that and then if it happens we just have to take their word that they
actually spend a million dollars. That whole thing now I never believe that for one minute.
Just so much of it is you think. What a horrible business model. Yeah yeah so much is promised and you realize I'm just taking their word for it.
Yeah. I have no idea. Yeah. Yeah it's scary. Okay all right next game Cincinnati at Tennessee.
Cincinnati was down early but pulled it out 37-27. It was kind of exciting to see in the early
course Tennessee was up 14-0. That was nice. Joe Burrow had thrown a pick and was like all right
but then he came storming back. So yeah you know and this goes to what I say about Joe Burrow
mouthing off about about other players and stuff is I don't think yeah he's doing you know he's
not doing as bad as Jameis Winston but he is fumbling and throwing interceptions so I think
until you clean that up a little bit I don't think well actually you should not say anything
anyhow. I just don't think it's a it's very good business model to call out people. Yeah. So yeah
it's it's another example that even though the Bengals are floundering Burrow is still putting
up a ton of points. Yeah. So he's put up a lot of yards too. He's playing well enough to lead the
team to victory. Yeah. So I don't think there's really anything wrong with Burrow at this point.
It's the organization. No he's doing fine. Yeah. But I warn them it's an odd year next year so he's
going to be injured all year. So yeah and you're not going to get in this year so you're looking
at another couple of years probably of ineptness. So that would be another reason to trade Burrow
in the offseason. Yeah and Zach Taylor is he going to actually make it or are they going to
say you know Zach it's been a nice run but we think we think we're going to look elsewhere.
I think he's gone. There's just not a lot of patience anymore with head coaches.
You build up a legacy like Mike Tomlin it'll take a lot to get him fired. Yes. But a coach who's been
around for two to five years even if they've been winning and done some good things. Yeah. They still
don't have that kind of history so it's easy to just dump him. Yeah and I think he's an offensive
guy right? Yeah. He could join a lot of different organizations as a coordinator easily. Yeah. So
anyhow all right. Something I wanted to mention about Joe Burrow you know how his house got
burglarized when he was out of the game? Yeah. And that's kind of been happening to NFL players.
They issued a warning. Yeah. Well here's the wrinkle in the Joe Burrow situation. There was
a woman at his house when it was burglarized and she called 911. It wasn't his girlfriend.
Oh. It was a model. Somebody else. See if I've got her name here. Nope didn't write her name down.
How did that story get by me? Yeah so he's being called out for cheating on his girlfriend because
he had this other woman staying at his house while he was in town. I go back to Glass Houses. Yep.
Yeah. Well if they're not married then he's not breaking any vows. No but it also. He's breaking
promises I guess. Yes he's breaking promises. It does not look well on a person. No it just looks
trashy. It's a weasel look. It's a lion on a cheater hat. It's not even along the same lines.
Remember when Barry Sanders it was discovered he had a child by another woman? Yes. It's not even
that. I mean this is worth you know if you have a child it's like well this is a baby you can't get
mad this baby's in his car. Yeah yeah there's a miracle of life. Everyone's happy. Yeah but for Joe
Burrow it looks like he's just some horny guy you know he's trying to have sex as often as possible.
It's just a bad look like you said. It's a bad look and like I said I never really thought that
much of Joe Burrow as a person just by his demeanor and how he talks and stuff. Yeah. And I think
as far as I'm concerned pretty much right on that. So did you feel the same way? Yeah there's not a
lot of character there. It's not like he has real bad characters just there's it's missing.
Yes where Josh Allen he's got his own. Baltimore Ravens Jackson, Lamar Jackson got his own. Yeah.
Joe Burrow does not seem to have his own. No. He's like the Bill Belichick of players. Yeah.
Yeah we were out there and things didn't go so well. It's like reading a really blurry page
in a book you get about every fourth word you know. Yeah you get it. Yeah. You know there's a lot missing
but you just don't know what it is. Yeah yeah his personality is just like nonexistent to me. Anyhow
we can move on. All right next up we got Miami at Houston. Houston won 20 to 12. I got that wrong.
You got it right. Houston looked pretty good despite a few mistakes. Yeah yeah and that's I think if the
Chiefs win that's what's going to happen is they're going to make some mistakes and the Chiefs are
going to capitalize on it. I think the Texas look good but they're not there. They're not there.
And Miami looked pretty fallible just putting up 12 points. It's like what happened to their offense
that day. Okay the narrative that Tua Tegavaiola is talking about is that right there and the
narrative is going to continue as long as that happens. A good team they can't beat. A fair team
they're going to put up numbers. Yeah. Once again I mean you go back to Arrowhead last year in the
one of the cold second coldest game ever. Yeah. That is a prime example of Tegavaiola in that offense.
Yep that's true. Hill has been proven to be non-effective and you blow him up on the line.
Waddle was injured and not playing that well. Mozart I don't know what happened to him.
You just never hear his name anymore do you? No and then their defensive key people that they got
are kind of floundering. They paid a lot of money for some of these guys so
is Jalen Ramsey with them now? Is it Ramsey? Yeah yeah that sounds right. Yeah. That's another
team that's probably going to have to do some financial restructuring in the offseason because
they're not getting what they want out of all the money they spend. They gave us what four draft picks
for Hill and overspent on him. Yep. And all that they didn't get anything out of it. Nothing.
And now they're not trying to re-sign him so I'm going to think he's probably going to be free agent.
And you know I've never I'm not even hearing anything about that on the NFL games. It's
another example of them only saying positive and upbeat things all during the broadcast. Yeah that's
true. They won't talk about you know a messy contract or a holdout or everything's always
happy fun great. It's my understanding that the Dolphins are free and clear on him and I think
that's what's going to happen. Yeah yeah if there's no penalties why not let them go? You they can even
try to re-sign them themselves as a free agent. And that might happen they might go well you're
not getting the money you got last time and we know this. And the Chiefs have done that. They've dumped
a player then re-signed him as a free agent. And I think I don't think that the Chiefs are going to
go for him anyhow. I think that they're building a new list of young players like they have been
and that's it. He's the past. It scares me that that Kadarius Tony is out there without a team now
and I pray that the Chiefs don't call him. I know I know no I don't think they will. Yeah I really
don't think they will. Oh go ahead. There's still probably a chance just because he's been on this
team and knows the system somewhat. Well when Hardman down went down that's the first thing I
thought oh shit they're going to get Tony back. They didn't. I think they have too many other
options now that they're not going to. I mean I think P Ryan is still in that position more
consistently. Yeah. So I mean I just don't think you know he's kind of a special teams kickoff guy.
You can put him in their third down situations. He does well. He is like a very consistent Kadarius
Tony. The good one. Yeah. Not the bad one. I hope Kadarius Tony has you know signs with somebody
and has a great career. I just really don't want it to be the Chiefs. I like the guy. I like the
guy. The only thing is the tarnish of him mouthing off on Twitter about I'm not injured. I'm just not
in. Yeah. That was very unbecoming. That wasn't good. But you know what I mean I'll give anyone
a mistake. That's OK. Emotions. He wanted to play. So I'm going to put that down as like when
during the Super Bowl when Kelsey went over there and nudged Andy Reed. Yeah. Bumped him with his
chest. OK. No one took offense to that. Well the commentators. So few people did. Yeah. They tried
to stir up something big. Yeah. But they're like the guy wants to play. What's wrong with that?
Yeah. And they probably do stuff like that all the time. Oh I'm sure they do. They bump something
bump into each other. You know how many people go hey Andy you got a second. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. How
about in your office. OK. What's wrong. Hey Andy. I feel like you're not playing me enough.
Probably happens every other day. Sit down to coffee and you know finger sandwiches. Yeah.
Just playing time. Yeah. I came in here hat in hand as a Google gesture saying you need to play
me more. And I brought you this fruit basket. Yes. And Andy Reed's got a button underneath his desk.
Damn it. He's like where's the security. Shit. I need me a trap door. He's like a Mr.
Denner's. He has that trap door. All right. Now let's. I got to go find a cheeseburger. Fuck him.
Hey. And I'm not making fun of him. I'm just as big a fan as cheeseburgers. Yeah. I fucking love
them. I love the fact they love cheeseburgers and not steaks. Yeah. I think that's character. Yeah.
Anyhow go ahead. Excuse me. Next game up we have Baltimore at the Giants.
And Baltimore 135 to 14 because the Giants are just that bad. I mean everyone would love to pick
that miracle upset but we all knew. Yeah. You know you look like a hero. If you go I think the
Giants are going to nut up and pull this one out and then it's like how did he know that. No. Yeah.
I'm glad we didn't. Yeah. They're less likely to remember if you're wrong but that time when
you're right it's like wow. Everybody follow him. Yeah. But he missed every other game.
I don't care. He got that one. Yeah. Go ahead. I'm sorry. Isn't it. I think it's already said
that the Giants are going to have the number one pick in the draft because I think they got it from
somebody. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's right. Who was it? Shaquan Barkley. Was it maybe. I think so. Yeah.
Something like that. Yeah. That's going to be later on though because it's going to be Philadelphia.
Don't they have to go with what Philadelphia picked? No it wasn't Shaquan Barkley. It was a
number one pick that was already determined I think. Right. Yeah. I haven't heard the
explanation but I've been hearing the commentators say the Giants have the number one overall pick
regardless of how the records end up the season. So now it's like something they've
recently learned. So now they can start looking at you know everybody's available because we pick
first we can take whoever. Yeah and that was now I think Shaquan Barkley was quite simply a free agent
wasn't he? I got the impression it was a trade but maybe it wasn't. I don't know. You know what I can't
remember anyhow you know what go ahead. We both picked a blowout and it kind of was.
Something worked up. Our next game is the Jets at the Jaguars. Jets pulled it out 32 to 25. That's
all you got to say is they pulled it out somehow. I got it wrong. You got it right. Okay the Jets
they're just not that good a team. I mean what can you say? Yeah. I mean Aaron Rodgers is so
pedestrian. I mean it's just he's not the same player. Yeah we're watching the end of his career
and it's a pretty sad end. Yeah it really is. Exception of the Raiders I don't see anyone hiring
him. I mean with everything else and the way he's playing why in the world would you? He would have
to be like a great locker room guy and a motivator and a mentor to hire him at this point and he's
none of those things. None of them. And he has no desire to be any of those things so all you've got
is a locker room mouth intent who really can't play all that well anymore and is pretty fragile.
Yeah. And because of league minimums a quarterback with his number of years in the league there's
there's a minimum that you're required to pay. You can't go lower than that and it's going to be a
pretty high amount. Yeah. So he's going to be expensive no matter what. Yeah I don't see how
any team would really want that. No I don't either. So yeah I think he's going to be left out unless
he I think he might be just smart enough to just be like okay that's it. Maybe Trump will put him
in his administration because that's been rumored a couple of times. Oh yeah I did hear that. Yeah
in fact it was rumored that Aaron Rodgers was going to be Trump's running mate as vice president. I
knew that wasn't true. Yeah I think that was just you know BS but we'll see. I don't believe that
he's going to be a part of that administration but we'll see. It could be it could happen.
It could happen yeah I wouldn't rule it out but I personally say right now I want to go on record
I don't think that's going to happen. Yeah. Just like Trump and Elon Musk. Unless it's a
bullshit position they came up with. That's true. Yeah so. But I think we're witnessing a falling
out between Trump and Musk because both of them have enormous egos and both of them want to be
in charge and number one and first. They can't coexist for long. You know one of them is going
to have to take second place. Well it's no different than the first term. I mean people
are leaving left and right and a lot of them was that. They're trying to overcome the big guy and
the big guy's like you know what. And that's the way business works too if you think about it.
He's been doing it his whole life so anyhow. I'm gonna be interested to see if Musk and Trump have
a falling out. Is Musk going to start attacking Trump or will he just let it be? He's so reactionary
I would almost say that he would start attacking him. Yeah. But is he that stupid to like poke the
bear when the bear is the big guy? I don't know. Probably. He was recently playing Path of Exile 2
video game multiplayer online video game. They kicked him off because he's cheating.
They booted him off the service for cheating. That tells you what Elon Musk is like.
Cheating on a video game that doesn't matter it has no makes no difference. Look at the car company
what they sold people and what they're getting. I'm doing that right there it tells a lot. Anyhow
go ahead. All right off we go. Next up with Dallas at Carolina. Dallas won 30 to 14.
You actually picked Carolina. Yeah I thought Carolina they've been playing fairly well. I
thought they're gonna nut up and get one but no no. Bryce Young flashes of looking good. He looks
much better than Caleb Williams I can tell you that. Which is sad. Yeah that is sad. They have a
lot of work to do what can you say? Yeah. Dallas don't beat your chest over this one. No this is
nothing to feel proud of really. No. As a matter of fact I'm wondering if they're like kind of like
rethinking. Damn it I forgot the backup quarterbacks name. In Carolina or Dallas? Dallas.
Uh Trey Lance? No no no no the guy that's actually playing. Oh Cooper Rush. Cooper Rush yes.
I think Cooper Rush is doing just as good a job as uh maybe a little bit better because
sans the interception so much. I think they man if they could get rid of Dak Prescott to someone
I think they should. They didn't they just sign him to some enormous contract. Yes so they're not
going to. Well unless you're like a team like maybe San Francisco but they can't afford him I don't
think. I wouldn't think no. San Francisco you know you got Shanahan over there to kind of
push him out of that interception zone thing. Yeah. And maybe give him that extra
ump to actually be a a game taker instead of a game giver. Yeah yeah. But I just don't see
people picking him up. And Jerry Jones would have to admit that he made a mistake. Oh yeah yeah that's
not going to happen. Yeah that's going to be a tough pill for him. Cooper Rush at least you have
consistency with him. True. So anyhow. Okay next game up we both missed this one Tampa Bay at the
Chargers. Tampa Bay won 40 to 17. Yeah Tampa Bay is actually they they are the dark horse. I know
they're looking like it man. Yeah. So they're eight and six now. Yeah their defense is really
coming up large. Mayfield is a really good quarterback like you and I talked about how
he got a raw deal there in Cleveland. Yeah. The Browns are such a stupid organization they let
him go and they get fucking Watson. Yes. Man that right there I don't have to say any more about
that organization. The fact that they stuck with Watson through everything and it took a
season ending injury to get him off the field that that shows the pigheadedness of the Cleveland
organization. Yeah they need to drop him Deshaun needs to just go away and they need to start over
and eat that contract to say look we don't want you as a part of our organization we don't want
the face of our organization. Yeah. I mean their mascot's bad enough and then you find out their
quarterbacks Deshaun Watson it's like oh no no I can't root for these idiots. Yeah that that that
crack baby elf in the middle of the field yeah and that just man that just looks long. I didn't
even know until you told me last episode that that is their mascot I thought they were playing at a
college stadium like maybe their stadium was getting renovated or something. No no that's a
brownie. That's a brownie oh my god. Like a pixie or a fairy it's a brownie. That would be tough
tougher if they had the Girl Scout brownies. Yeah. As their logo out there. Little plaid skirt,
little hat. Remember the University of Hawaii had a just a spectacularly bad mascot. Oh yeah. They
were called the rainbows uh-huh and their mascot was a guy who was supposedly dressed as a rainbow
but he looked more like a demented Gumby. Yes I remember that. And his nickname was Bozo.
I mean the University of Hawaii fans universally hated the mascot and would attack it.
So I mean these were people that were paid. Every time he walks by they kick him in the ass. Yes
there were people paying hundreds of thousands of dollars to come up with that mascot.
The mascot. That's the job I want. Yeah you know what I mean probably they had such turnover on
that because they got tired of getting their underwear pulled over their head every game.
They probably had to pay someone like 50 grand a game just to be dressed in the mascot uniform.
They were going to get humiliated, pummeled, and probably sexually assaulted.
Yeah you know they're thinking I should have went to Disney. Where did my career go bad?
Minnie Mouse won't get this shit.
Oh my gosh. Okay what game were we talking about? I forgot. That was Tampa Bay at the Chargers. Oh
yeah yeah Tampa Bay it had nothing to do with Cleveland. Yeah we just started talking about
quarterbacks. Oh because of Mayfield. Mayfield's playing well Tampa Bay is ascending.
The Chargers have a lot of work. What's his name? Herbert. He just is such a different quarterback
now. Yeah I never hear about him on any of the highlights or the game highlights or anything.
It's like he's a game manager at this point. Yeah and he didn't seem like it when he first came out
for a couple of years he was like on fire. He was. He was. It's something's really different.
Something's really different. Was it maybe the cast of characters around him? That could be. Now
that now the the team overall is more of a controlled passing kind of west coast style kind of team so
it doesn't lend itself to big spectacular plays. Yeah that's like Eckler and there's like a lot of
players. Keenan Allen was there. He's gone. There's a couple other ones too and maybe he was a product
of that more than we thought. I think so. So I mean he's a tall guy so it makes sense for him to
throw over people's heads and Keenan Allen is the type of guy that could go up and get them. Yeah.
Maybe if you're missing that he isn't quite the same quarterback which I could think would very
well could be true. Yeah. So Tampa Bay you're gonna you guys are gonna be rough. Yeah. Yeah I
mean not for us but somebody there is gonna get it they're gonna get that uh uppercut that they
didn't expect. Definitely. They're gonna get that Mike Tyson uppercut and jab and then that's it.
They're going. Yeah. So at this point of the season I should really start writing down what
everybody's remaining schedule is but so we don't have to look it up but yeah but I think I don't
know what Tampa Bay's remaining schedule is. Okay I'm talking about the playoffs. Playoffs.
Okay. I was thinking they could they could kick somebody out of the playoffs and then get in
themselves. You know what that's right it's too much to look at right now but let's uh I'm gonna
make a note of that and tonight I'm gonna write some stuff down and take a look because that's
right someone will probably they're gonna get the division I think. I think they will too. Yeah.
Seattle's not consistent San Francisco's not no no no that's not the same division what division
might I think of them. They're the they're in the south with New Orleans Atlanta and Carolina. Yeah
Atlanta is the one that I was wondering about but Atlanta they they don't have it. No no.
Kirk Cousins has shown his weaknesses again. Yeah um Kirk Cousins is Kirk Cousins uh anyone that
hires him is uh they're desperate I think. Yeah. I could not believe they went with all that money
to wrangle them away from Minnesota and Sam Darnold's doing a better job. And you know
Kirk Cousins looked great for a few games and then everybody figured him out. Yeah yeah. Now
he doesn't have anything else to surprise anybody. He's showing everything he has. And I go back to
him being a great guy. He is a heck of a human being. He's a guy that you leave for a couple
weeks and you forgot to tell but he mows your lawn because he realized that uh yeah but he leaves
five strips out. And he mows over your prized rose bush. Yeah he gets your rose bush and he leaves
five strips out. You come over and go he's such a nice guy but that was fucking stupid.
It's like a guy my in-laws used to know. He'd come over and mow their backyard but he'd run over the
hose and chop it up. That's Kirk Cousins. He's like thanks but damn now I have to buy a new hose.
All right next up we have Indy at Denver and Denver won 31-13. They're starting to look like
the Denver that we used to know. Uh okay they're really good. I think they're going to catch someone
by surprise. A lower tier team but when you get up against the I think they could overtake
Baltimore with a good game. Yeah. Once you get against the Bills and the Chiefs uh
is there anyone else really that you think could maybe just take them? Pittsburgh is 10 and 4 now.
Yeah I'm not Pittsburgh there's something going on there that I didn't see earlier and they're not
as good a team as I thought they were. Yeah. But they're good. Yeah they like the other team. They
have weaknesses that can be exploited and I think people figured them out. Mike Tomlin could probably
he could scheme around a lot of Denver's plays so that's going to be interesting if they do
face Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh could win it or the Broncos could win it but we'll see what happens.
I mean because right now the way it's going I think they would who were they going to play?
I was talking about earlier on the way here. We were talking about uh Denver going to meet
play Buffalo. Yeah that's right. Yeah and I'm still saying Denver could do us a solid. Yeah.
They really could. Knock out Buffalo and then they'd have then Denver would come to KC. Yeah.
Which would help. Because um someone put up the graph of what would happen today if the season
ended. Yeah. And you would have Denver going to Buffalo and this is in light of all the losses
of last week and everything saying here's what we have right now. Kansas City is number one,
Buffalo's number two, the lowest seed would go to Buffalo and that would be Denver right now.
Right now Buffalo's 11 and 3. Denver's two games behind at 9 and 5. See that's not
just two games. That's not that big a difference. It isn't and there are three games left they could
overtake them. They could. They could. Yeah. So this can be a very very well I don't see the
Bills losing the last three games because their schedule is such a pussy schedule. Oh yeah. New
England twice. Yeah. But however if there's a team that's going to trip them up it will be New England.
Yeah. Remember Fitzmagic New England? Yes. Yeah yeah yeah yeah. Yeah. Anyhow. Next game. There's
always that part of it too that could happen. Anyhow go ahead. Next up we have New England at
Arizona. Arizona won 30 to 17. We both got it right but we predicted a much lower scoring game. Yeah.
Yeah. Arizona looked pretty good that day but they were playing New England. Yeah. Arizona
as good as they looked last year is his best or last couple of weeks before this. Let's see I
think it's been the last couple of games they haven't had the same ump for fire. Yeah. Well
they're wearing down I think. Kyler Murray's becoming Kyler Murray who we thought he was.
Yeah. He is what we thought he was. Yeah. Yes. Quote Dennis Allen. Yeah yeah yeah.
That's what you get. If they get in as a as a wild card which I don't think they will but if they
get in as a wild card they're not going anywhere. I wouldn't think. No. I think if they face Tampa
they paddle their ass all the way home. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they they look decent against the
three and ten team that really isn't trying very hard. Yeah. So take that for what it is. Yeah. I
forgot to mention uh we were talking about the Jets in the Jacksonville game. Did you see the
play where Jacksonville quarterback Mac Jones just gave up and stopped playing? No. It was they were
down here the goal line and he had like a second and ten second and goal or something. Yeah it was
like second and ten. Uh-huh. And he rolls out to the right to pass and he can't find anybody so he
gets to the sideline and at that point he could just throw it away. Instead he just stops and lets
the Bills push him out of bounds. I didn't see that but I'm gonna look that up. He basically just
stopped playing and waited for the Bills to finish the play. He could at that moment all he had to
do is just fling the ball out of the end of the end zone to be an incomplete pass but he took the sack.
Wow. Yeah that that's Mac Jones. It would make sense with the way he plays in his stats. He's just not there.
Just like I was saying before he's been playing football since he was a kid
and he still can't think on his feet enough about football to realize he should have thrown that
ball away. I had very serious questions about that. Yeah. Very serious questions. And it's so weird
to think that person made it to the NFL and was a high round draft pick. It was a high round draft pick.
Yeah. And he can't remember to throw the ball away. Instead he just stands there and lets the other team.
Oh it just it blows my mind. He's getting called out left and right on social media which he should.
He should. But he just gave up. This could be the heir apparent to Brady. Remember that. Yeah.
Yeah. All right. Next game. Buffalo at Detroit. That was the fun game we thought it was going to be.
Yeah. Detroit or Buffalo did not impress me and the reason is is because of this.
Did we both get it right? We both got it wrong. Yeah we thought Detroit was going to do it. Yeah we both
predicted the high score. Detroit could have done it but Dan Campbell's being Dan Campbell.
He went for that on-side kick way too early. Yeah. He had enough time to go score again.
It was going their way. The momentum had changed finally. Even the announcers who were instructed
to be relentlessly positive questioned him on that on-side kick. Yeah. He did the same thing
last year in the championship game against San Francisco. He kept going for it and kept getting
his ass kicked. I don't like Dan Campbell as a coach at all. He needs a little more discipline
doesn't he? Yeah. He does not make good decisions on the spot. He couldn't mature into a better
head coach if he gets the chance. He could yeah. I think Detroit will stick with him for now.
Regardless of how the season ends. Yeah. I would like to see the general manager and the owner
give him a talking to and say look we've got what we need quit gambling it away. Because that's
kind of what he's doing. It is. Gambling all this stuff away. Yeah that game was there for them to
get. And that's another reason Buffalo does not impress me like everyone else thinks they're gods
now. Okay their offense may be gods but their defense is shit. It is. Look at all the points
Buffalo's giving up. They're winning by outscoring. So when you get to Kansas City and they're with
their defense and you bring it down to small ball. Yeah. Then that's when you're going to see. That's
when you're going to see a completely different game. You take them out of their element and you
hit them in the face so hard that they can't recover. Yeah. You know a couple of trick plays
here and there and all of a sudden you get out to a lead. And then you have them right there in the
midfield scratching their head going what the fuck just happened. Yeah and then they need to score a
bunch of points and then all of a sudden they're getting empty possessions when they're punting
and they're like wait a minute we need to be scoring points every possession to keep up.
It does it does such a such a job on your psyche and confidence of any game. It's like wait a minute
we're not playing our game and we don't know really necessarily know what the other game is.
I remember a Chiefs team that made the playoffs and all season long the defense was just an open
door but the Chiefs were able to outscore. That was Bob Sutton. They were enough to get in the
playoffs against Indy. Oh yeah yeah back in the 90s. Yeah Indy did not punt once. No I know.
The Chiefs defense never stopped them once. Wasn't that uh Peyton Manning? Yeah yeah and that's
that's what uh Buffalo's is trending towards. Yeah. They can't stop anybody and they can't stop
relentless scoring drives and they're just gonna have to outscore everybody. Yeah. And it doesn't
work. That's when the Chiefs hired a couple of high profile defensive backs one of them for Green
Bay. I can't think of his name but it just turned out to be shit high uh shit signings. Yeah. And
they couldn't stop anything and then the intermittent people that they had were like bozos. Yeah.
Getting out there. Remember I remember back when Jason Whitlock had a radio program here and he
kept begging the Chiefs to sign Ty Law from New England. Oh yeah yeah. To fix our secondary. Uh
huh. And eventually the Chiefs did sign him and he was nothing. Yes I know. Maybe we waited too long or
we waited too long. Maybe Whitlock just seeing something that just wasn't there. Whitlock was
under the assumption though and I remember those days too and here's the deal you have to have a
team around this Ty Law. Yeah. You know you can't just put them in there with nobody else. Yeah one
man defense don't work. It does not work. I think Jason Whitlock's big claim to fame was he played
college ball with Jeff George. Yeah and that's it. That was it. Yeah. Ball State. Ball State.
Testicle State. Testicle State. But uh Whitlock did stuff for effect so I think a lot of that was just
like grandstanding. Yeah. Like he knew something and he was smarter than the Chief. Yeah. Yeah.
That was his schtick. And I mean I guess a lot of sports commentators or talk show hosts do that.
Yeah that's true. You know you gotta I mean look at Kevin Keatsman and how he did the uh
the walkout. Yeah. Baseball walkout. That right there kind of like shoved him way ahead to
on fortune. I mean just all of a sudden after he did that but people hated him nationwide.
But people in Kansas City started listening to him because that was back I think he was still on
1510 wasn't he when they had to shut down at night. But he never would shut down. Yeah. He just took
the fines. I love that. They're gonna have to come out and unplug me man. Yeah and I'll tell you what
his brilliance is not recognized around Kansas City but he should be one of the best talk show,
sports talk definitely commentators around here. Yeah. So anyhow go ahead I went on a completely
different start. So uh next game Pittsburgh at Philly. We both got this wrong. Philly uh
they they just kind of
uh I don't know manhandle Pittsburgh. Uh-huh. 27-13. We both picked Pittsburgh but but.
I don't know why I did. I felt bad about that pick and I shouldn't I I struggled with myself
and I should went with Philly and they're um Philadelphia is ascending and playing great
great football especially with Chiquan Berkley. Yeah. But another thing that they're not talking
about is okay Jalen Hurts is actually really coming along good. Yeah. Yeah there used to be
like weekly stories about his mistakes or or an interception. It reminds me of Lamar Jackson
about it first is kind of like a yeah he can run but man that pass you're not hearing that so much
now. Yeah. You know um I think that they have a good chance to be in uh the Super Bowl this year.
Yeah. I really do. Yeah I've seen two predictions. Uh one said the Super Bowl the country wants is
Buffalo at Detroit. But the Super Bowl we're probably going to get is Chiefs at Philadelphia.
Yes and that's exactly the way I feel as of right now. Yeah I think those four teams
it would make sense. I mean because uh we played San Francisco twice. Philadelphia was. Now we
gotta play uh Philadelphia one more time. Yeah. So then the one oddball we lost to Tampa. Yeah.
It still would be more fun for me if we played Detroit because either way whoever wins it's
going to be historic. Yes. If the Chiefs win it's a first three-peat. If Detroit wins it's their
first Super Bowl ever. Yeah. That's the one I'd like to see too. Yeah. Oops. Sorry. Game
wise I think that would be a better game. Yeah. Yeah. That that would be a lot of fun. Yeah. So
we'll see. So next game. All right. Green Bay at Seattle. Green Bay won 30-13. Seattle is
lifeless. Being like Seattle. They are having a lifeless game. They've played a few good tough
games this season but then they just. I've always heard this and I completely believe in watching
the Holmes. The team takes on the persona of the quarterback. Yeah. There you go. Geno Smith.
Look great. Look bad. Look great. Look bad. That's what you're getting. At this stage in his career
he really can't afford that. No. No. No. He's closer to the end of his career than the beginning.
Ending. Yeah. People don't realize it but I a lot of people don't realize how long he's been around.
Yeah. Yeah. This is probably his 10th year isn't it? Yeah. It's double digits. Yeah. He's double
digits. He was way before the Holmes. So. It's just we didn't hear him. No we just didn't hear
him because he was pedestrian like he is now. So. Yeah. And wasn't necessarily starting. Yeah.
Anyhow. Great. We had two Monday night games. Both of them wound up being stinkers. Yeah.
The first was Chicago at Minnesota and Minnesota clobbered them 30-12. Yeah.
Yeah. They should have. Chicago some of that coaching there I find very suspect.
The graveyard to cornerbacks is trying to create another skeleton. Yeah. That is so sad to see
a guy with all that talent. Oh my gosh. Just because he's in Chicago his career is in danger.
His passes are beautiful. Yeah. And he can scramble.
Yeah. The NFL needs to do what you said and take him away from him and say no we are not going to
let you ruin his talent. Yeah. He's going somewhere else. Yeah. I think that would be a smart business
move on the NFL's part is you guys don't deserve this because you don't know how to handle it. So
we're taking this valuable thing away from you. Yeah. I think so. It's kind of like oh no give me
a 16 year old a Tesla and go you can't handle that yet. No no no no no. Yeah. No. So let's just go
ahead and take that car away from you okay. So anyhow go ahead. Seattle is I mean they looked
like they were going to challenge for the division but I know I just can't see it. I can't see anybody
in that division. No I don't either. If they do back their way into some sort of a playoff game
they'll be winning out. Yeah. Now we were talking about Chicago Minnesota anyway. Oh okay.
Yeah yeah yeah that's right. Oops. Okay well so Minnesota's good solid team but I'm still going back to
Sam Darnold. Yeah. Wait until the playoffs. Playoffs playoffs. Yeah I think Sam Darnold will be Sam Darnold.
He was looking a little bit like Sam Darnold last night. Yeah. He was. Some horrible passes that
probably should have got intercepted. Oh yeah. He wasn't necessarily making great decisions on the
fly. I'm starting to see some old Sam Darnold so we'll see. Right now he's kind of being controlled
and coached out of him for now but I just don't see it last him very much longer with especially
the caliber the caliber of teams are going to face in the playoffs. Playoffs. And at this point of
the season everybody's sore everybody's tired everybody's got nagging little injuries and all
of that distracts away from your ability to do what you're going to do and you know what certain
quarterbacks have enough in reserve they can overcome that pretty easily but Darnold I don't
think does. Take away Justin Jefferson and we're going to really we'll see it. Yeah. Someone's
going to come along in the playoffs and nullify Jefferson by scheme. Early in the season Jefferson
was out and Minnesota was doing fine but at this stage they need it. No they need him bad. Yeah.
So we'll see we'll see what happens. I think Minnesota is a good team and they're capable
of winning the first round but I think when you get to the second round I don't know if you're
going to do it. Right yeah they they tend to fold historically they tend to fold in really really
tough. Yeah. Playoff situations. Here's the way I kind of look at it Detroit Green Bay and Philadelphia
I think all could beat them in a playoff. Playoff can happen. Let's see I was trying to think of
who Minnesota has lost to in the Super Bowl. They lost to the Chiefs. Yep. They lost to the Raiders
and I think they've lost to Pittsburgh because I remember Pittsburgh played Dallas in a couple
of Super Bowls but I think they also played Minnesota. That was the one in there the lost
one that people don't remember. I think you're right but if any how. All right. So they tend to
crumble when they meet a superior team. Yeah. And they really weren't in those Super Bowls. You know they
really didn't. No they were not they didn't make a factor. I mean they're just kind of like uh
they were kind of like the Buster Douglas's. Yes. Without their one knockout. Yeah. Tomato can. Yes.
Well the second game on Monday night was Atlanta at Las Vegas. Who watched that? I'm not even
commenting on it. It's 15 to 9 Atlanta. What an ugly score. Was that all field goals? Yeah just like
the Rams and the 49ers all field goals. Yeah. 12 to 6. I've got nothing to say about that game. I'm
not going to waste my breath. Yeah. Yeah. It's yeah waste everybody's time. Yep. So that was our wrap
up. You missed four. I missed five. Okay. I would think that we're probably pretty close season long
here. Yeah. I'll have to go back and tally them up. Yeah. Yeah. I think we're really close on it.
Then let's see I had uh another football thing to mention is Clyde Edwards-Halair has finally
been released by the Chiefs. And we spoke about this before and I and I believe this to be true.
And the way I see it is the Chiefs were being human. Yeah. He was having some issues and he
needed his insurance and they had a roster spot. But now the season is dwindling down and you got
Hollywood Brown coming back and you don't want to give up anybody else. You got to give up someone
that's non-producer. Yeah. So they kept him on as long as they could and now you know it's time for
them to say goodbye. Yeah. And he could this is a time of year where he could land as a third
running back on a lot of different teams because he can't catch the ball. Yeah and I'm sure there's
some situations right out there he'd fit right in. Yeah. I mean Kareem Hunt solidly solidly has the
number two or possibly even the number one spot. We don't know. Yeah. I mean so and then Pacheco's
Pacheco. Yeah. That's their guy. And then you have P. Ryan. There's no room for him. There's just no
room for him. All these guys are much better than him. So yeah. It's interesting we haven't seen much
of Carson Steele lately have we? No no and I know why too. He's got a lot of developing to do. He
does. Yeah. I think it's hard for them to go ahead and slow him down and take a step back and go all
right we'll get back to you. Just hang on. He's a great experiment. I'd like to see them use him as
full back and also a blocking tight end. Yeah. Not necessarily receiving tight end. Yeah. But a
blocking tight end like on the left side. Well you might see some that in the playoffs. Yeah.
Yeah. Probably so. Yeah. Not necessarily getting the rock but being a part of the schema. Yeah. Use
use his his size and his hitting ability as a blocker. Yeah. Clear some holes. Yep. I've got
a story here I'd like to speak about here real quick and I found this interesting. I've known
about it for a while but I finally just sat down and actually put a little bit on paper about it.
Former NFL wide receiver Manuel Sanders recounted how Patrick Mahomes playoff heroics influenced
his retirement decision. After witnessing Mahomes lead the Chiefs to come back victory over the
Bills in 2021 divisional round and that's the famous 13 seconds. Sanders decided to hang up his
cleats December 7th 2024 speaking of the Bills. They're now the you know here's what I'm saying
right here. I'm sorry because this is kind of blurred here and it's my fault. I put in some
wrong words there. I was in a hurry this morning. So you know okay so he decided to hang up his
cleats. So speaking of the Bills here they're now the newest sexy picks since beating the Lions. So
let's go over this now. They lose to the Rams giving up 44 points. Yeah. And they give up 42
points to the Lions. How in the world are these sexy picks when the Eagles are a better example
of a good solid win how they won. Yeah. Or how about the Chiefs and how about Hollywood Brown
coming back. Yeah. Look the thing is is they they found their new hero. Yeah. And they're doing
everything they can to prop them up and it's gonna be interesting when everything goes to small ball.
Yeah. That's all I got on that because I obviously screwed up that whole article this morning.
It was one of those ones where I took part of an article and part of my own words
but I forgot to delete some of the stuff that I wanted out. So anyhow. I'm gonna update the
records on the four teams that played last night. Okay. Let's see Minnesota.
11 and 3. 12 and 3 now. 12 and 3. Oh okay. Chicago's gonna be 4 and 10.
And then the last one is
Atlanta. Atlanta's gonna be 7 and 7. Where is that? Here it is.
Um I had a story about uh Randy Moss has finally come out and said what's going on with him.
Oh isn't it cancer liver cancer. It's cancer of the bile duct that's right between his liver
and pancreas. Oh that's bad. So it could have spread either way. That's horrible. But he says
I am now a cancer survivor. He says he's good to go. He's got it. Yep. Good. So as a fellow cancer
survivor say good for him. Good for him. So he's planning on coming back to be what he was before
on the commentator on NFL Today or something maybe something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Well good. His
you got mossed. Remember that? Yeah. Yeah. I love that. Now they're saying you know he mossed cancer.
He's a great character. Oh yeah. He was great for football when he played and he's he's a lot of fun
now even in retirement. He likes his ganja. And none wrong with that. Nope. So there's there's the
mystery about Moss's illness. I'm glad you covered that. I forgot too. But um yeah good for him. Yeah.
100%. Um keep going boss. Yeah. Yeah. That's great. Let's see. I don't think I had anything other
anything else football. No like I said this morning I don't know I was groggy. I was a little late
coming to get you of course. I was a little groggy so I left a couple articles that I had at home
and I guess we're doing next week. Yeah. All right. Anyhow all right we can go to the predictions I
guess. Okay. Do you want me to put a break in here? Yeah we'll do the recap separate. Oh wait a minute.
Oh no no no no. We do that. Okay forget it. Yeah the predictions are separate. We got bullet points.
Bullet points. Yeah. I was just looking at them. That's what was missing. Yep that's what's missing.
All right. First one. Will NFL have to change things around to maintain the market shares
when Gen Z becomes a key demographic? Definitely. Yes. Think about that. I mean you're talking about
a generation that does not even resemble anything of the Xers, Boomers. Yeah. Even the Millennials.
Yeah. Are they are the Gen Zers going to be willing to sit down for a three plus hour game
on a regular basis? You see that's what I'm saying. I don't see that. I think in every sport probably
baseball is the one in most danger because that can get so slow and boring. I don't see a Gen Zer
just sitting there going okay oh look at the way he's pitching. Oh man his underarm his underhand
is going so good today. I see him going what the fuck. Look nothing's happened. Zero zero. It's eighth
inning. I just don't see the younger generation sitting down for it. It's kind of backfired
on the business culture. They promoted the whole short attention span mentality. Yeah. Because that
makes us more frequent consumers. I mean if we would buy like one entertainment product and use
that for a week then they don't get more money for a week. But if they can get us to have short
attention span and be tired of it in a day and a half then you know oh look then we buy another
one and then we buy another. So short attention span and the quest for something new has been
conditioned into us. Yes. But now it's that's bad for football. No I've thought that. I mean
look I mean even me sometimes I have trouble going another fucking state farm commercial
you know at the end of the game in particular. Last two minutes last an hour sometimes.
And that's just because okay oh we got to review this. It's the last two minutes. Oh hang on. Oh
the penalty hang on. They got to confer. Okay hang on. We got to get this right. Oh nope now
another timeout. Each team has three timeouts and let's say they have them all and they use every
one of them. That's six breaks in the last two minutes right there without anything else. Yeah.
So that's that's why I've taken to recording the game. Yeah. And then I start watching in an hour
late so that way I can zip past all the commercial breaks in half time and by like middle of the
fourth quarter I've caught up with live TV. I used to do that all the time when I didn't work
Sundays. It worked so well. I was at Home Depot with nobody there. It was like hey. And then you
know once I've caught up with live TV I'll turn the sound off and put my headphones on and play
music. Yeah. And just watch what's happening on screen. I can tell what's going on. Oh yeah me
too. No I got to where I can tell. I don't need the commentators at all. I mean I call my old
holding calls. I mean you and I both. Yeah. You've done it too. It's like oh that ball's going back.
And if all else fails I take my headphones off and back the TV up and listen to what's going on.
Yeah. You know but for the most part I just don't need their audio. No. As a matter of fact I
despise a lot of their audio. Yeah it's just no fun for a lot of people. Yeah. All right. It's
apparently fun for more than it's not fun for. So we both feel that they're going to have to
change the game around quite a bit. I really think so. I do too. And they are changing slowly but
when there's a whole big generational shift you know I think there's going to come a span of like
two to three years where the demographic of people watching football is going to
hastily change. I think so. Just like in the span of those short few years.
I don't know what the age demographic is for the sports gambler. Is that mostly younger people?
You know I'd have to look that up because I would think that's more like I don't know 45 to 65.
Yeah you know I know a lot of guys my age still like to gamble. Yeah I don't know about Gen Zers.
I've never even bothered to look that up but I will. I will look that up. That's a very interesting
question because that could be the savior of the of the sports particularly the NFL is because of
all the gambling opportunities that you have during the game. Yeah that will carry baseball
football to a large degree. That's probably what's carrying baseball. Pretty much because now they
have on their percentage of winning that they have up there and it's like you know because
when the Royals were beating Baltimore's ass for those three games it kept you know the
percentage of winning on Fox kept going up there and I'm like wow why did they start doing that
and then I got I know why now. Yeah people went out and played oh they're 70% winning chance. I'm
gonna go get some because I think this guy's gonna jack a homer or whatever so yeah all right so in
five years how will history reflect on Aaron Rodgers? I think kind of like Brett Favre. He
had a good career but then he screwed it up at the end and has become somebody nobody wants to know.
Yeah yeah I heard if you go to your phone and you say wiener gate three times Brett Favre's penis
will appear on your phone. I'm pretty sure I read that on the internet it's got to be true. That's
hilarious. Oh I heard of a great great thing to do for for women. If a guy sends you a dick pic
send him back another dick pic and say wow that got me so hard.
Scare that guy right off won't it? Okay I'm done. He'll never send you another one again.
That would be the equivalent to a paper crumble. Next. By Sean Salisbury. That's another one.
Yeah they're all quarterbacks. Yeah isn't it funny how quarterbacks are always the one sending dick
pics around. I think it's ego. Oh well Nick Lowry he was a kicker. Oh yeah yeah yeah yeah. He had
a habit of opening the door naked. Yes. When people would come over. He was supposedly a slimy piece
of crap. He was a swinger through and through. Oh yeah. That's why he had that molestache.
Yeah he looked like um shit I forgot the name. Holmes. Yeah John Holmes. Yeah there were a few
times I went up to a chiefs training camp up in St. Joe and was taking pictures and Nick Lowry
would always come in and photobomb. He would get right in front of me and do all these outrageous
poses. He couldn't stand for anybody taking pictures than he was in it. That's kind of funny
actually. Yeah and I'd smile and I'd take a few pictures and then I'd move down the sideline
a ways and he'd follow me and try to get into every picture. Geez okay now that's annoying. Yeah that
was really annoying. So I have a lot of pictures of Nick Lowry that I really didn't want to take.
I'd have fun with that. I'd have fun with that. I would just start doing close-ups and not say
just get right up to him. Right up his nostrils. Yes. Here you go. Let's see the coke damage up
that nostril. Oh yeah. You got any septum left in there? Nope. Okay. No. Speaking of Rogers, the fact
that the Packers are in the Super Bowl conversation and he isn't, does that reflect directly reflect
on him? It does. It does doesn't it? Look at the success they're having without him. Yeah it's kind
of like okay the bad seed, the trash took itself out. Yep. So we're okay. Yep. It's when your car's
engine finally blows out that hunk of gunk that's been clogging up the muffler is like all right now
we can run now. Now we can go. Aaron Rogers was the hunk of gunk in the muffler. Yeah yep.
Yeah you know and you could kind of tell when you saw the team directly
the season after. Yeah. I mean it was just and then you saw the team that he went to
the season after. Yeah it was like when the commanders got rid of that toxic owner they had
Daniel Snyder. Yeah. The very next season everybody was so much happier. Yeah. Because you know ding
dong the witch is dead. Yeah the black cloud looked and sunshine started coming in.
All I get ding dong the witch is dead. It's so awesome that I've heard not one single thing
about Daniel Snyder since he sold the team. Not at all. Not one word. It's so awesome.
Nope. I think we ran those guys out there doing work. Yeah so we're very distracting. Yeah I
can't see them kind of look over. No I know I thought it was funny. Yeah. Hey who cares they
already bought their coffee. Yeah yeah okay. They wanted to be noisy they were perfectly
allowed to. That's right. Yep. Do you think Tom. No no. Okay yeah okay. Do you think Tom Brady
should even consider Rogers as a bridge player at the right price? You see I kind of he doesn't
work well with younger people but maybe if he had Tom Brady here's what I'm thinking. Yeah. Tom Brady
there and he's like hey Aaron I'd like to meet with you. Okay sure. Okay so he comes over and he
meets with him okay. Yeah. And he's like let's forget everything else. Let's forget everything else.
You would be a great person to mentor this guy that I'm thinking about drafting this guy right here.
Yeah. Number one what do you think about this person do you know that much about?
So you already include him in on the hey let's work together here and try to figure this out.
Number two do you think you could be able to mentor this guy knowing that you are out of here
in a year or two you don't have any other opportunities? That would do that would go
a long way to salvaging his legacy. Yeah. I really don't think Aaron Rogers has it in him.
I don't either I think he wouldn't do it. Yeah but I don't think he'd even take the job if he did he
would fail utterly. And also I don't even know if Tom Brady is allowed to be that much of a participant
anyhow. No but I imagine he could have a dinner with Mark Davis and discuss all this in an informal
setting and say I think this would be a great idea. Yeah. I don't see it working out. Yeah I
don't either but it's something to think about. It would be fun if somebody did try to hire Aaron
Rogers in the offseason to try to plug him into that role. That would be fun if somebody did.
I think that's going to happen maybe. I mean but they're going to have to make sure that he's on
board because you know Jordan love him but we found this out. Okay next one what NFL player would you
like to see host the Price is Right? Oh yeah. I'm gonna say George Kittle. Oh yeah okay I like George
Kittle. Travis Kelsey I think would do a wonderful job. Yeah. He looks great he's got that smile and
he's smooth and he's funny. Yeah. Either one George Kittle or Travis Kelsey either one. Kittle is
interesting enough looking that he would garner people. I mean not that far off from Drew Carey
really. Yeah. I could also see Tyreek Hill having a hell of a lot of fun. I do too. Yeah yeah you know
what that guy has fun no matter where he's having fun. He's definitely got the gift of gab. I mean he
he's not going to stand there with nothing to say. Tyreek Hill's a really good example. Yeah.
I think who else? I can see Mahomes doing it even. I mean because he's like a really
yeah he's a upbeat cheerful guy good looking guy great smile and he's got that voice. I would say
Shannon Sharp's more intelligent brother Sterling Sharp would be excellent. Sterling Sharp would be
excellent yes yeah. Sterling is so much better well he's so much more well spoken and just thoughtful
about what he says. Now I love Shannon Sharp because he takes idiots like Skip Bayless and
makes them somewhat listenable. Skip Tarn Bolus I think was his real name or something like that.
I read on the internet allegedly. Yeah but yeah Sterling always had really insightful things
that your average run of the mill football commentator would not even think about. But
Sterling noticed and he'd tell you. Yeah which is interesting because he came out as a commentator.
I don't think he does anything now does he? No no. And then his brother Shannon's still all over the
place. So I'm guessing that they tried to get Sterling to fit the mold mold better and he's
probably just wanted it's like now I'm going to be my own guy and if that doesn't fit then I'm out.
I'm on the beach. If you ever change your mind about my role I'll be on the beach. I could
definitely respect that. I'm not changing just to be on TV. I can see him type of guy doing that too
going no thank you that's just you know things but that's not my game. Yeah. All right why is
Joey Juicebox such a horrible dresser? Oh good question. Yeah probably because his girlfriend
doesn't care because he's cheating on her. She doesn't dress him right anymore. I think his
hairstylist is the one that tells him how to dress. Maybe so. Yeah yeah. Little frosted tips Joey.
Yeah let's see they're in Cincinnati so he goes right across the state line the the river into
Kentucky. Uh-huh. And he picks his clothing out there. Yeah probably at golf pro shops. Yeah you
know I was in Louisville last year to meet some family right. I know a couple of stores he
probably goes into there that are on the riverfront that are like kind of ethnic stores. Yeah yeah.
And I can see him doing that because it would you know some of the stuff that he wears I think he
goes to one ethnic store and buys his pants and he goes to another ethnic store and buys his shirt.
So that's uh that's my idea what happens. Yeah he gets all his outfits mixed up. He goes to Zimbabwe
gets the pants and he goes to Asia to get the shirt. So I remember shopping in a store once
that was called Urban Mail. I remember that store. Yeah and I was looking for a belt and they had
none and I even asked the woman working there do you have any belts and she's like uh no I've
never seen belts here and I said well don't urban males wear belts and she looked super offended
and it's like well that's the name of your store. You should have said the belt the ladies is when
they get in line when they get out of line. Oh you think I'm going to use my hand and hurt my
beautiful hand. I just thought it was funny they used they chose the name urban mail instead of
saying you know black guy. Yeah. So when I said hmm I guess urban males don't wear belts she treat
she acted like I had said black guys don't wear belts but now I just use the name of your store.
Yeah. It was so much fun to see the look of contempt and disapproval on her face and then she
couldn't say a word because it's just the name of her store. Yeah. And she didn't have any belts.
And if this was a store for urban males I guess urban males don't need belts do they? No I guess
not. I guess not. She was trying to figure out a way to accuse me of being racist. Yeah. She was
she was thinking real hard on it. I'm going to get it I'm going to come up with it. Just hang out there for a second okay.
It's so much fun to play with people like that. It is I know you can see it too. They've already made up their
mind to get offended at the first provocation. Yeah. And then they're trying to figure out
is this it is it oh I can't say no that's no that's too vague. Yeah. Yeah. All right what an
NFL player could play a mob boss in a major movie release. Now I know who could be Fredo. Nick Sirianni.
Yeah. But okay we're talking like a mob boss like like a um I think it's going to have to be alignment
offensive or defensive. How about uh Dan Pasterini? Yeah that's a good one. Oh man you know what I am
so stereotyped here all of them are Italian. How about Conrad Dobler? Remember him? Oh yeah yeah yeah the old
talk show host. Yeah if you could get him to not talk like an idiot. I don't think that's possible. He has that intimidating air about him.
Yeah he kind of does don't he? Yeah. Vince Ferragamo? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah yeah yeah yeah that's right I picked
all Italian people. I'm sorry. Someone someone I saw uh just the other day. Vince Lombardi. Yeah.
Go ahead. Anthony Munoz. Oh yeah. Remember the old Cincinnati Bengals lineman? Yeah yeah. I saw him the other day talking about the the freezer bowl
the Bengals played against the Chargers where it was a negative 59 windchill and dude looks like he's in great
shape. He's still a really handsome looking guy but he could definitely be the intimidating organized
crime presence on camera. He could definitely pull that off. From what I remember I agree. Yeah. You see here's
what I'd love to see is go the opposite way and someone hire Creed Humphrey. Her baby face Josh Allen. Yeah.
Doesn't he look like he's a 14 year old with a mustache? Yeah oh my god I can see that right now. I mean when the dude's 60 he's going to still get carted.
Yeah. I see him right now. He's a kinder gentler my boss. Yeah. Hey uh hey come here come here.
Could you maybe bring that guy that double crossed us over here for a little bit? I'd really appreciate it. Thank you.
You know how they call the mafia organized crime? Uh-huh. The gay mafia is really organized crime.
I heard that one on Will and Grace. Hey hey hey hey come here come here come here. I think your shirt's untucked. Change that.
It was the episode where they were talking about the gay mafia and one of the characters didn't believe
it was real and the other was trying to come in so oh yeah it's real. Is it real? And eventually at the end of the
episode he ran into Elton John at a restaurant and it turned out Elton John was a higher up in the
in the gay mafia. He actually played on that show? Yeah he played himself and he's like oh it's real.
You piss off the gay mafia you'll never get into a four-star restaurant again. Yeah the guy that
overcooked my steak go see what he's doing right now. Yeah in fact his food was brought out
overcooked and the waiter spilled wine on him on purpose and Elton John's like it's because you
dissed the the gay mafia. It was so much fun. I gotta look at it. It was an excellent episode.
Cher was on one episode too. There are a lot of big big stars that played themselves on Will and
Grace. That's very cool. Will is a very unique show. I can see that was so much fun. I wonder if there
really is. A gay mafia? Yeah. There was a couple of brothers in England in the 60s I think
and one was gay and one was straight and the one who was gay was very open and aggressive about it
and that screwed up their chance at working with the American Italian mafia because they're very
homophobic. Oh yeah yeah because you don't do that. As a matter of fact there's a guy that the
the Savellas really really liked Will. Oh yeah I remember you mentioned that but he was gay so he
was damaged good as far as they were concerned. Yeah first it was swinging but then I guess they
found out like he participated in other male-owned male stuff and I don't know how far it went and
nothing like that but they all like looked at each other and said we can't have that.
Yeah I think it's been an initiation right in the Russian mafia for decades that before you become
a made man in the Russian mafia you have to bed a woman while someone watches to make sure that
you're not gay. Wow you see and here's the deal you think it will work the other way you know kind
of like the old Greek army it's like hey how do you really get close to your partner?
How do you get real close to them and you'll defend them no matter what? Well kind of a
broke back kind of situation. Yeah well there's one way to really really love someone.
I have no idea how we got onto this. You know and all of that I don't know who knows that that's
even true. Yeah I would I would you know the Spartans I don't know. There's so much of this
we're just taking people's word for it. Yeah exactly. We weren't there we didn't even know
what they were doing. We didn't do the archaeological digs. It's a great story. We just believe the people who
apparently or supposedly did it. They knew yeah well I've seen them buck fucking.
It's here on this pottery that's 4 000 years old. You can definitely see. You painted that yesterday
and you're just telling me it's 4 000 years old. How would I know the difference?
We did several archaeological tests and all I'm determined this is 4 000 years old. Okay well I
did some tests too and you're a fucking moron. All right. Why does it have a price tag from Pottery Barn on it?
Allegedly. Yeah you know what you could do you could probably sell a lot of that stuff under
that condition and people would buy it. Yeah. And believe it. So I mean that's where politics came from right?
Okay the 49ers have had a horrible season after going into overtime in the Super Bowl
pretty much. Wouldn't you say that pretty much ruined them? Yeah that was like the the stake through the heart.
Yeah so since then it's been a steady decline to where they are now and now they just look horrible.
They're showing what they were. If you were the GM what would you do to bring the team back to the
Super Bowl contender that they were last year? I think it's going to have to be a fair amount of
personnel changes to disrupt the culture of you know whatever we do we lose. Whatever we do it
ain't good enough. People can say whatever they're they are not they are disheveled.
They are questioning themselves. Yeah they look like a team that's expecting to fail and they're
just waiting for it to start happening. And then what it does you're like okay see I told you.
Yeah you've got to change that whole culture now. What was there is no longer there and you
got to get past that number one. You can't go well let's just rebuild around it. No I think like you
said in the car was it or was it here Brock Purdy? Yeah I think they got to move on from him. Yeah
I think that it was a great experiment and if it was done right it could have kept working but I'll
think it's working now and I don't think it's gonna. I think what you see now is what you're
getting. Yeah I mean the Niners have been building themselves over the past few years and Brock Purdy
was a late excuse me a late addition to that. Yeah. So they have been in rebuilding mode and this is
what they came up with and this ain't working. Yeah. They're losing in the Super Bowl and then
now they're wasting a whole season. Well I mean. So I think you gotta say okay we tried it didn't
work let's try a different way. The demoralizing of the overtime victory of the Kansas City Chiefs
and how close you were and that you went down field you got the ball first. Yeah. And if you
would have scored seven you would have guaranteed it to go another round which maybe you could score
one. Yeah. But they failed miserably on it they had to end up kicking a field goal they could not
go fork down and give the ball back to the Chiefs in great field position so they had to kick a
field goal but right then you can see the look on their face it's like. Yeah. This isn't happening
now this again is not our year. I think you gotta start over you're right. I think so too yeah.
And it's at a certain point it's just the band-aids number one you're not going to sell it to the fans
they're not going to believe it anymore that just a few more players and you'll be fine. No.
At a certain point the fans are like blow it up man let's start over. Yeah I agree I agree.
Yeah all right. Kyle Shanahan in particular seems to get there but then makes bad decisions to hurt
the team's chances that would uh let's see what would you do about that I guess is what I'm asking
what would you do that would you like maybe I got a couple of suggestions and I want to hear your
event and then what you think okay a season assistant head coach okay they have them
um like a Tom Cochran yeah or somebody as someone to keep the guy in check they almost have or has
the same power as him but Shanahan is still running everything but he's got this guy right here like
his conscience going hey Kyle I don't think that's a good idea and here's why I want you to think
I want you to think about this or um a better coordinating staff or you let him go and look for the guy.
You know I was remembering a few seasons back when a team hired a retired quarterback I don't know
it was Manning or Elway or somebody of that ill who was it I yeah but a team hired him as a consultant
and advisor kind of role so it's real vague um and I've heard of teams having quality control
coaches yeah and I think something like that as you were saying like assistant head coach advisor
quality control somebody who Kyle Shanahan will listen to and seriously consider their advice
that he doesn't necessarily have to automatically take it but he has to listen and think about it
and then get someone who's not going to be constantly in his ear all the time pick your
moments so he'll pay attention I think with something like that you could retrain Kyle Shanahan
to not give into those impulses and talk himself into yeah this is the right thing let's do it
you can have somebody there like no think about it consider everything and then you can probably
train him eventually to where he'll be like that yeah that's kind of the way I was doing too it's
like he's good he's really good but you need someone to be his conscience per se and go Kyle
that's not that I want you to think about this and it's got to be the right guy yeah I'll be the guy
that somebody he respects yeah maybe his dad true yeah because Kyle Shanahan has a lot of the good
qualities and the right qualities to be the head coach specifically of that team so I it would be
I think foolish to throw it away and just go for a new guy try to fix what you have and I'm sure he
talks to his dad I'm sure he's like hey uh I know you saw that so what do you think and I'm sure his
dad has some input on him his dad won two Super Bowls could have won a third but oh he decided
to retire yeah very cleverly though so I mean you know he's getting beat up so bad he's like you know
I got two I have nothing to prove I want to be able to walk when I'm 50 yes yes um okay and
finally are the Steelers okay at quarterback or should they um get what they can from Wilsons and
Fields and look for a high draft pick so just use them up and if they don't have that guy this time
maybe next year they can find that guy in the upper rounds you know for the lower rounds not
the upper rounds yeah I don't think they need to to draft the next quarterback this year because
they can get another year or two out of Wilsons yeah I think they're afforded the uh they're not
expected to win the Super Bowl anyhow yeah you know um but I would say in the next two years
three at the outside they should hire I mean they should draft who they think is going to be their
starter and then have Justin Fields kind of mentor him yeah yeah because he's Fields is young enough
he could still be there as a as a good mentor okay so I could see Pittsburgh going that direction
I could especially if they still have Tomlin yeah but if Tomlin retires or they decide to fire
him then the whole organization yeah I think they're going to sweep it clean because he's
been there forever yeah yeah the Steelers basically are Tomlin flavored you know so
if he's gone then I don't think they can keep that up he took over from Bill Cower
yeah and has never left and it's always done always had a winning record it's amazing what
he's done he's never had the urge to move on to any other team no he's happy he knows he's got
it great there and they love him and yeah god bless him good guy too I would imagine he's going to
stay in Pittsburgh when he retires because probably the town they they they really love him and they
should he's a good guy and he's a great guy to be the face of an NFL head coach so the interesting
to see if he decides to try to get jobs within the front office of the Steelers or any other
organization you know does he stop at head coach and retire does he say hey I want to try my hand
he's the kind of guy I think I think could progress into that yeah or at least be a president or
something kind of like Elway I can see him doing that so yeah he he certainly commands the respect
he's got the the resume yeah I think he'd be an excellent choice for something like that yeah all
right that's the end of the bullet points I had one bullet point oh okay remember we had that
discussion about curses for teams uh one we didn't talk about and I just recently learned about the
curse of Cam Newton I never heard this yeah he was pretty much carrying the Carolina team
I think it was what 2015 yeah they had a playoff game playoff playoff and it was late in the game
and they still had a chance and there was a fumbled ball and Cam Newton started towards it
and two other players from the other team were converging on it and Cam Newton stepped back out
of the way oh I remember the other players so at that point he looked like he was scared like oh I
don't want to get hurt I don't see the game was on the line the playoffs were on the line the going
to the next game was on the line and he decided to like oh that's too scary I'm not gonna even
try yeah yeah yeah as a matter of fact our version that was Steve Bono yeah Steve Bono did that and
that pretty much led to his demise here in Kansas say that horrible play yeah um but that led to the
demise of the Carolina Panthers they've never been as successful again no you're right and that
wasn't really what Cam Newton he wasn't scared and he wasn't afraid it was just like an impulse he
took a step back because you know it's an instinct when somebody's about to plow over you yeah it was
and I don't particularly blame him for that either no he's like I have to I have to
be able to throw the ball if I get in the middle of that I may not in this game doesn't matter
anyhow you know why they don't have my home's doing the quarterback sneak exactly the first
and last time they did that was in Denver yeah he was out for four games yeah you'll never see
that again unless it is the fourth quarter of a Super Bowl and that's the only thing you could
think could get in there yeah then you'll see it but other than that you will not see that ever
again um I thought the curse of Cam Newton was pretty interesting well you'll see I like how
much that's held up I've never heard that which is interesting because I you know I look for shit
like that so yeah Steve Bono did the same thing and it led to his demise too yeah people don't
like that but Steve Bono kind of like threw his hands down like oh fuck this yeah and you remember
that notice or like hey wait a minute you know and then after that was a real give up gesture yeah
he was like fuck this he just put his hands down I think John Altman ended up getting the ball
really making it look bad because he had a better shot at it anyhow all right man I guess I guess
this concludes this sports bastards and we will go on to the next one sounds like a plan all right
thanks for listening fuck off bye these sports bastards I have a deaf neighbor and he told me
he hates this show and he can't even hear it that'll tell you how good this show is a deaf
person fucking hates it didn't really sit there and listen to all that garbage they were speaking
do you actually believe one inch of it I didn't think so hang out game over